The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 905 - Michael Lombardi, Darius Butler, Pacman Jones & AJ Hawk LIVE In The ThunderDome

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

On today’s show, AJ Hawk, Pacman Jones, and the boys fill in for Pat while he is on paternity. They chat about the recent article from The Ringer in which Davante Adams talked about having a different vision for the offense than the front offense, and finally feeling like people understand he can perform at an All-Pro level without Aaron Rodgers, if it ultimately means anything, and if they can get things worked out. They also discuss the Vikings removing Dalvin Cook from their Twitter header, and everything else happening around the NFL as we enter a pretty low news period. Joining the progrum to chat about the Davante Adams situation, if we can learn anything from what's happening in Rookie minicamps, his thoughts on Joel Embiid and the 76ers, his new book coming out this fall, and more is 3X Super Bowl Champion, former GM of the Cleveland Browns, NY Times best selling author, host of the GM Shuffle podcast and the Lombardi Line, Michael Lombardi (55:08-1:10:05). Later, 9 year NFL veteran at DB, host of the Man-To-Man pod, Darius Butler joins the show to chat about the Dalvin Cook situation, his thoughts on the NBA Conference Finals matchups, an update on the F1 season, his pick-up basketball and golf exploits, and more (1:56:25-2:22:45). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Pat McAfee Show. I'm A.J. Hawk sitting in for Pat Still here at the Thunderdome. Tuesday, May 16th. Pat Still at home with his baby girl and Sam. Sports! Yes, there we go. There's the voices you hear of all the boys. You see Pac-Man Jones right here. Pac, appreciate you, man. Good to see you. Good to see you here on a Tuesday. How you doing today, man? You know, I'm good. I'm good. Long drive here. Dozed off a few times, but I feel pretty good about it. You feel pretty good about it, you know?

Don't be dozing off. Yeah, the last 30 or 40 minutes, you know, I actually felt really good. I felt really energized because I knew I was coming to see you guys. Hell yeah. Yeah, Boston Conner. Good to see you, Boston Conner. Great to see you. Ty Schmidt.

Tone Diggs. Good to have you. What? When Rap Sheet kind of looked in a long, gazing look in your direction. He doesn't know me. It's fine. You don't think? There's a chance.

I mean, the first time that he hosted from in here, he 1,000% forgot most of our names. I know he didn't for me. Well, there's a lot going on. I can understand it. Rapshie did a great job. But we're going to have Michael Lombardi will be here today, sometime probably within the first hour and a half of the show, right?

Sure. We'll see what happens. Obviously, Darius Butler will be here, too, in the third hour. D-Butt, obviously, bringing great insight. Always funny and awesome, so we appreciate him. But you know what, Con? Let's get to some of the stories. Something that just kind of popped up, I feel like. I don't know if we saw it on the morning

shows today with Stephen A and everybody. What's going on with Devontae Adams? I see this he did an interview with where? Who was it? The Ringer. Yeah. Which is Bill Simmons' situation, right? The Ringer. And Devontae is saying a lot. Evie, I don't know if we have some of that. We could pop up here on the screen. But I guess the headlines

were trying to say Devontae... Let's see what's the main thing. The Marin Fader, I believe, is how you pronounce it. And what was the first headline said something? What, Devontae is not on board with the direction they're going offensively or something like that? He doesn't see eye-to-eye with

their vision for the offense. Which that would be Josh McDaniels, right? The head coach. Exactly, yeah. So Devontae clearly has some problems with Josh McDaniels, or pending problems. I think he has an idea of what maybe he sees with Jimmy Garoppolo and maybe what McDaniels sees with Jimmy Garoppolo, and it doesn't look good right now for the Raiders and Devontae. I guess, so when Devontae here says, we don't see eye to eye on what we think is best for us right now.

Like, Pac, what could that be? Because we're sitting here May 16th. They've been there for a month, basically. So it's still early. Yeah, they've installed, I mean, there's no way they've installed the whole offense, but I guess if Devontae get back there and say, hey, I don't like this path, like what we're doing with Jimmy G, what could they be doing, do you think, that's causing issues?

Only thing I could think about, he's not getting the routes that he want to get. Yeah, not going. When a guy go in and they say he can't be productive with certain quarterbacks, but he have been productive. Only thing I could think of, you go to practice and the route tree or the offense is not focused on the person that it needs to be focused on, which it should be. Yeah, you're right, actually.

He's the best receiver. Yeah, he should be the first option on every play. Should be the first option every play. If he's not getting double, throw him the fucking ball. Yeah, so these quotes are interesting. I'm trying to figure out what exactly Devontae meant by some of this. It all depends on the style of ball that we play. With Jimmy Garoppolo starting at quarterback,

if we play a certain brand of ball, I can get Jimmy to conform to whatever. But if we use him a certain type of way, then it's going to make it tough for us to maximize who we should be this year. What does that mean? So is that like methodical? Is that kind of like the McDaniels offense with Brady where it was just like first down, first down, first down, and then all of a sudden they're in the red zone

and then they maybe take a shot? Because honestly, I don't know what it means, but just because of McDaniels being in New England for so long, that is kind of the offense he ran. Like, it wasn't as many deep balls. But we also never had a receiver like Devontae when McDaniels was calling plays. I was just going to say that. When McDaniels was there, it was more of a team offense.

Yeah, exactly. And that could be what it is. You know, Devontae used to get the ball. He's still good. Does he feel like he's not going to get the targets that he deserves? That's all it could be. Or if it's like, you know, looking how Jimmy G played when he was with the Niners and Devontae's like, hey, I don't want to just run slants and comebacks all fucking game.

But, I mean, I don't know. It's also like I can get him to conform to whatever, so it doesn't seem like he's really that. That's what I'm trying to figure out, what that really means. I think that means he can make them look good. Exactly. However it's going to go, I'm going to make them look good. What did he say to you at the Derby?

Did he say, oh, I fucking can't do this? This is news to me. Everything seemed great at the Derby. Was there a time frame going on? He was talking about the facilities are beautiful. He's got a nice spot out there. He's along with the coaches. They were at the top of that FAA list, I'm pretty sure.

I think he said the facilities were legit. Everything out there, they seem to be doing things the right way. But right now, what's weird is Salambo, Michael Lombardi, his son is the offensive coordinator, correct? Yes. But McDaniels calls the plays. Exactly. So you would assume Devontae's big issue is with the head coach.

Yeah, 100%. The guy who's installing the offense. I was kind of talking about the front office. Was the front office, was that the decision to get rid of Derek, who is one of his best friends forever? You think it had something to do with that? And who targeted him all the time, literally all the time, and decided to go without Derek?

I honestly didn't think about that until right now, but that's a good point. But he didn't put up a stink or say anything. If Devontae was going to say, like, obviously he's not scared to speak his mind. Maybe he's coming into his own or whatever, but he didn't say anything when they were getting rid of Derek. Yeah, and I think it has nothing to do with Jimmy G because Devontae, I mean, he had unbelievable games with Jarrett freaking Stidham. It's not as if he had this massive drop off when they went to the back.

Stidham throws a great defense. Can you scroll to the bottom of the last page of that? If you guys have it, I don't want to put you guys up. There's some quotes at the end, too, that were interesting to me. Yeah, like, so, what else? Okay. In 2022, Adams asked out of the only pro organization he'd been in, okay, blah, blah.

I want to see where he's quoting. Right. Adams is learning a difficult lesson right there. One that can only be grasped with age. Patience, he says. Patience. Controlling what I can control. This is like the middle of the article.

Let me go down further. You can keep going a little bit. Yeah, there's Nick's screenshot in there. Yeah, you can keep going a little bit. So patience is tough for him. So he's saying, hey, I want to win a Super Bowl right now, and he doesn't feel like they're on the path to do that? Is that what this is?

Maybe. Dang, this is a long article. Is he also saying maybe he doesn't know what the Tony's point about, you know, Derek Carr? Does he not see much of a difference between the two of them? Because it's not as if last year they had the success that he might have been

looking for, right? I mean. Yeah, I mean, Devontae still had a monster year though, didn't he? Still had a monster year. But he might see the writing on the wall now too where it's like, you know, in Green Bay like he was going to the playoffs every year, had a legitimate chance to win a Super Bowl every year, and he had one of the best statistical years of his career last year, and it was like, well, he didn't even make the playoffs, and then now on top of it, they're getting rid of, you know, my best friend. It's like, do I really want to be here?

But he's also stuck because he signed that massive deal. Yeah. Okay. So they're talking about him when he's not going to be able to play. Right here, he says it's going to happen one day. He says before quickly affirming it's not going to happen anytime soon, but it's going to be a day where I have to be real with

myself. But he talks about, too, towards the end of this, about playing people the old moniker, hey, yeah, I didn't get the credit I deserved because Aaron was so good that people said, well, he has Aaron Rodgers. Now they can't heat him. Devontae, I think the last thing of the – one of the last quotes of the whole article says they can't say that anymore.

Yeah, and they can't because he was unbelievable with Derek Carr. And if that's kind of what he – do you think is that why he went to Vegas? Is that maybe a thought? Like, okay, I went to Vegas to play with the quarterback. But, yeah, he wouldn't go to Vegas just to be like, I'm going to go play. No, because he wants to win a Super Bowl. That's what he talks about. He wants to win a Super Bowl. The sentiment that Aaron's a hell of a quarterback,

he says that always frustrated him, didn't address it publicly. So I guess this is probably the first time he's addressing it publicly. Now people can't say that when he's referencing that he's only because of Aaron Rodgers. That'll never be the narrative ever again. He felt

vindicated by the all-pro honor. It proved that I am me. He says a quarterback doesn't make me. I make me and I can do it consistently at this level. He's confident. That's why last season meant a lot. He says, even if I went out and played dog shit

next year, they can't say it because now I've already proved it throughout the course of a season, played every game, and put together a resume that says I do not need. He pauses. You can erase all the numbers. You can just write in, he didn't need Aaron Rodgers. Whoa. I read that with a dramatic voice.

And you should have. That was the first time reading that, too. You think that's the reason he potentially turned down the more money offer to stay with the Packers because he did want to prove himself without Aaron? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. I really am curious why the whole situation. I still think it was just because Rodgers was kind of wishy-washy

on when he was going to retire, and Devontae was like, well, I'm not going to sign a five-year deal if Rodgers isn't going to be here next year. Obviously, he's confident in himself and everything, but if you're expected to be tied to a guy and then you sign and then you have no idea, he at least got to choose where he wanted to go and pick his quarterback when he left. If you sign and then Rodgers leaves and retires, you have no say in that.

So even if they get some rookie who stinks, it doesn't matter how good he is. Certainly when you care about legacy and all that kind of stuff, that's going to have a drastic impact on the future of your career. Yeah, and realistically too, if Rodgers was 90-10 this offseason, then Devontae would have had one year with him, and then Rodgers would have left. There was no point for Devontae to stay there because of that. He wasn't just going to say, okay, I'll play

with Aaron and maybe he'll be here for four or maybe he'll be here for one out of five of the years that I signed this contract. But that's kind of what he's fucking with him now because he went to the Raiders because Derek Carr was his former roommate, really good friends, really close with him and he only got

one year with him. I know. Could he have signed a deal, though, that would have been like, I want to trade Claus if I stay here with Aaron and get out of here in two years, though? I don't know. That sounds like an NBA contract. Not that easy in the NFL. I don't know if anybody. I don't know.

I mean, Joey Burrow could try to put that in his deal maybe. I don't know. With Jamar. That doesn't happen too often. Yeah, I mean. Hey, if we suck, I want out of here. I want to find a way. I'm still getting everything I get paid. My guarantees, but then you got to trade me somewhere

where I want to go. I think the coach wants that too. Coach would love it too. Can LeFleur have that too? He feels like Jordan Love isn't as good as he thought he would be. Hey, I need to you guys need to keep me around. Don't fire me. I'm still a good coach even though Aaron's not here. This guy isn't who you told me he was. Trade me to the Niners for Shanahan right now.

See what happens. And I don't think there's no shot at Aaron Rodgers. No, not at all. This is solely a shot at some article that he probably done read or somebody said, oh, he got great numbers because he's with Aaron Rodgers. And a lot of players say that too, like, oh, bro, if we have, I'm just

shooting out if I was another receiver, oh, if I hadaron rogers as a quarterback my numbers would be such and such so i'm questioning he done heard it at every pro bowl um guys talking you know when we sitting there in the pro bowl and having a couple couple drinks so this is just him shooting the shots back also like nothing against whoever wrote this article but i'd be interested to see the actual, to be a fly on the wall. Because Devontae just doesn't seem like he's very private.

He never gives these kind of interviews, so it is kind of weird. What was his mind frame? He sounds frustrated in this quote. For sure. Where did you catch him? Where was he coming from? Yeah, I don't know. It is a lot.

Maybe he's just getting older and growing into who he is i guess and it was like a long form piece you know like i mean it was it was pretty and talked about like him first coming in so i assume he spent a decent amount of time with the the author of this but it does just seem kind of weird that you know having never done this prior all of a sudden he's just like you know what fuck it i'm just gonna empty the clip and i'm gonna say everything that i've been storing inside of me for the last 10 plus years and how long has this been boiling inside i guess at least a couple years and what does mcdaniel's think because mcdaniel's comes from new england where you're no one says anything so it's like this is new kind of new territory for him as well as a coach very new territory i gotta do okay not only to have to go talk to this player individual i'm gonna have to answer questions to the media about this and then it's going to be an ongoing

thing hey did you fix this did you guys yeah how's your relationship well and they already paid him so it's not like they're talking to a guy who's on his last year of his contract he might be frustrated because he's performed and not been paid like davante they traded you know first round pick for him and a second and a third right they trade multiple picks for him and a second and a third, right? They traded multiple picks for him, and they gave him a $130, $125 million contract as a wide receiver. He's in year two of that deal. He's got some leverage right now. He's got some power. Absolutely, but it's almost too late.

They gave Jimmy G a pretty nice deal too, so it's not as if, okay, if Devontae's not happy, let's just get rid of Jimmy G. It is, and to your point about the Patriot way, or at least where McDaniels and the GM come from in New England, that doesn't happen, one. And usually when it does happen, something happens to the player. Not in a negative way, but they're usually like, okay,

if you don't want to be here, then maybe they do trade him for eight first-round picks because he is that good. Maybe he can say this because he is Devontae Adams, and no matter what, they know he's going to go put up 1,500 yards and 15 touchdowns. But also, it's definitely new for Josh McDaniel. What if he requests a trade?

That's too much money. Too much money. Yeah. I'm quite sure one team would love to have him. Yeah. Are you kidding me? But the Raiders, come on, bro. They'll be throwing rocks at that stadium if they can really.

Yeah. They have. Like, he's – Devontae's a monster. I mean, you watch all the clips. I like watching his releases and everything. It's crazy. Man, he's so good. That one video we talked about on the show, him telling young receivers,

hey, run routes. Run full-speed routes. Don't be doing – yeah, cool, you can do ladder drill and do cones. That looks great on Instagram. But, like, you want to be a good receiver. Learn how to run routes at full speed and do that in the offseason. In terms of being frustrated, too, you could see it last year a little bit in his body language, even though he had such a great year.

I think it was on Monday Night Football against the Chiefs. Yeah, the photographer thing. Yeah, exactly. Giving that dust up with that person. Never doing shit like that before. But you could kind of tell it was a little bit there, but it was weird because I think everyone assumed it was because Derek Carr didn't have a very good year last year.

It wasn't necessarily Josh McDaniels or Ziegler and how they envisioned the team going forward. Because like we've said, he had an unbelievable year last year. They weren't very good, but it's not like his play dipped at all from his time in Green Bay. And that Josh McDaniel offense, you've got to have a good running game. You've got to have a good running game so it can feed off the play action.

And it wasn't what it posted in last year. They love the running game, but they hate paying the running backs. They're not going to pay the running backs. Well, they got him on a franchise. Well, yeah, and Josh Jacobs. And that's why maybe that could be it, that Josh McDaniels is like, hey, we have the NFL's leading rusher in our backfield, Jimmy.

You know, we don't have to throw the ball 35 times a game. If we throw it 20 times a game and you just, you know, take care of the ball, because that was the thing that got Derek Carr benched. Like, hey, if you just take care of the ball, hit your spots, and that would also be the point where Devontae's not running all these routes that he wants to. He's just running slants and ins for first downs. Well, and in terms of you guys,

I don't think it really ever happened with you, but obviously getting paid, like generational wealth is awesome, but how difficult is it when you go from winning every single year, you know you're going to be in the playoffs, you know you're going to have an opportunity to win a championship, to you go to a team and it's like, shit, we're going to have to scratch and claw

just to get into the wild card. I imagine that's, again, getting paid is nice, but at the end of the day you're competing and you want to fucking win. Yeah, but you know what you sign up for. And when you sign up, they have a chance to be good, though. They're a step or two from really being okay. Well, people were talking about last year before the season, they had all that hype like,

hey, they're going to compete with the Chiefs for winning this division, and it kind of just never really happened. You got Max Crosby and Chandler Jones on opposite edges, like rushing the pass. You got some studs on defense, too. Yeah, Tyree Wilson now they got from Texas Tech. If Jimmy G can put it together, these guys can win some games. On offense, too, they replaced Waller Wilson now they got from Texas Tech. If Jimmy G can put it together, these guys can win some games.

Well, in offense, too, they replaced Waller with Michael Mayer from Notre Dame. Oh, wow, you're right. They signed Jacoby Myers. They got Renfro. They have Devontae Adams. They should be better. Yeah, absolutely. They really need to make sure this Devontae relationship is all right there.

They're better. They're better. Their secondary is always the question. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. They've got them at six and a half games. See, that feels –

Because they're division. I'm sure they take that as a bit of disrespect, don't you think? But their schedule is just like New England. We'll see. They've got them at six and a half games. See, that feels – Because they're division. I'm sure they take that as a bit of disrespect, don't you think? But their schedule is just like New England. Here we go. Murderer's Row. They play so many good teams this year. Yeah. The AFC West.

It's the same exact thing. That's why, like, while we're talking about the team, six and a half feels so low. And then you run through the schedule and it's like, Jesus Christ, this is impossible. How the hell are they going to win six games? Well, and they play the AFC East, right? I mean, yeah, they're going to have a very tough schedule again. And like the AFC East from a Patriots

fan, their gettable game is New England, but it's Bill Belichick playing a guy that used to play quarterback for his team. Guy that he drafted. And McDaniels. And McDaniels, yeah. It's just one of those things where, yes, the Raiders have a great team on paper. They have guys in the most important positions

minus corner and safety to Tony's point, but the teams they're playing also have guys at every single position. Yeah, everyone you're playing has gotten much better as well, and you feel like you've gotten better. You just gotta go prove it, and you'll see if Jimmy G can do that. He's healthy now, right? Yeah, he's healthy, and he knows the offense, so it's not like there are many... But what is that offense He's healthy now, right? Yeah. He's healthy, and he knows the offense.

So it's not like there are many quotes. But what is that offense, Kyle, man? That's the question. Devontae might have some issues with that offense. That's exactly what the issue is. Man, I'm so curious. What made him come out and do this now, and how was it like, hey, they told you going into the offseason, hey, we're going to – when you get back here, this is like we're going to do all this,

we're going to do that, we're going to implement this stuff. And he gets back, and he's been there three weeks, and you're like, you're not doing any of the stuff you told me is that what's happening well and i assume that's part of the reason why they got rid of car because it was kind of like a mix and match between what he was doing before mcdaniel's got there and what mcdaniel's actually wants to do and it was like hey you know if you would have lit the world on fire then mate and then obviously they they re-sign him but it's like you didn't perform as as well as we expected you. We didn't go to the playoffs.

We tried it kind of both ways. So you're gone, and we're doing it my way from here on out. Yeah. It'll be interesting to watch how this all plays out. Let's see what McDaniel's first public comments are. He's not used to dealing with stuff like this from players. Yeah, I'm sure they'll be fine. Like anything, if someone you say, oh, how could you say this about a coach, or they'll never get over it, they could talk for five minutes in the coach's office, and they'll'll be fine. They just, like anything, like, in fact, you know, if you have someone, you say, oh, how could you say this about a coach,

or they'll never get over it, they could talk for five minutes in the coach's office and they'll both be cool. Oh, yeah, they'll get over it. I've had a heated conversation with the coach and have a conversation with the media about a coach. They all pros. You got to figure a way to get over it.

They need each other. I mean, this guy got a hundred and some million dollars left to get paid. You got to figure a way to get over it. They need each other. This guy got a hundred and some million dollars left to get paid. You got to figure this out. This is your second year as a head coach. Only thing I could think of is he must have told

Adam something about the offense that was going to be different and it ain't different once they've been there the first month. It it might be the numbers thing. Like that would make a lot of sense now while we're talking it out. Like he might have told Devontae, like, hey, now that Jimmy's here, we're going to completely switch over to my offense. Your numbers might not be what they were last year

and what they've been in your career because we're going to focus on the run game. We're going to focus on holding on to the ball and possessing the ball because that's what killed the Raiders with Derek Carr. And I'm not saying it had nothing to do with Devontae but something like that Rams... We're not going back and throwing the ball 65 times a game. The Rams-Raiders game where Baker Mayfield drove down the field at the end of the

game to beat him. That was against the Raiders, right? Yeah, I believe so. And it was 17-16 or something and the whole entire reason that they didn't win the game is because they couldn't possess on that last possession. They had to punt the ball back. It feels like that. Kenny had a game-winning drive against them, too.

Kenny did? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was a low-scoring game, too. They only scored 12 points or something. But we know this offense is going to be different because it ain't going to be throwing the ball 65 times and running the ball. No, it's going to be running the ball 35 times, throwing the ball 20 to

30 times. They got a good running game, too. For sure. One of the best in the NFL. You can see why he'd be pissed, too. It's like, well, you're not paying me $130 million to have 800 receiving yards and six touchdowns this year. That's not what I do. You better win a lot of games if that's the case.

If the numbers are down, you better guarantee we're going to win a lot of these games. And then it's fine, right? Yeah, of course. If everyone wants to win, if you've got a chance to win, maybe a coach could tell them, hey, your numbers might not be as gaudy this year, but they'll be there. They'll come, but there might be some games where, hey, you're going to have to just grind through it,

and it's going to be one of those days where we've got to run the ball, we've got to possess it, and we're not going to get to take a lot of shots to you, but they'll be there. They'll eventually open up, I guess you could tell them. But it's May. They don't feel great about it. Being a superstar, being selfish to a certain extent, I expect that.

It's hard to be at the fucking top and not be a little bit selfish. I think it's needed for a guy like that. He needs to think, yes, I'm the best player on the planet. I'm the best player there is on this planet right now. And so, you just got to find a way to balance that out to where, hey,

yes, you are, but there's 10 other people. Let's find a way to come together and do this thing. I can hear that. Hey, we're going to come in here. We're going to run the ball. But coach, why? Because I think we can win this way. If you throw me the ball every time, I think we can win too. You see what happens when I get the ball in my hands? No one can jam me at the line either.

So, yeah, let's do it. Man, let's pivot real quick to Peacock. Connor, this is a big deal. Huge deal. It's a big deal to other people. I know it's a big deal to us, a program that does a show every single day about sports, about football. But Peacock is getting an exclusive game in Week 16, Bills versus Chargers.

Big game. Not just some throwaway game. Big game. But then they're also getting a Saturday night wildcard playoff game? Yes, the first week. That Saturday night game. So this year it was Jags-Chargers was the Saturday night playoff game, which was an unbelievable game.

The Jags came all the way back. Is this super wildcard weekend? Yeah, bingo. Yeah, super wildcard weekend. Who'd they take the game from? Who had it before? Or was it just – I thought it was NBC. So it just goes. Super wild card weekend. Who'd they take the game from? Who had it before? I thought it was NBC. It just goes strictly to Peacock. It is not going to be

on big NBC. Exactly. That's kind of the big deal, I think, from this. It's just not that it's strictly Peacock, but this probably opens the door for ESPN Plus and any other streaming. Bars are going to be pissed about it, probably. You can still figure it out. They work out deals to where bars can show it? They're going to be pissed about it probably. But you can still figure out.

Can't they work out deals to where bars can show it? They're going to have to figure out anyways because YouTube TV has the NFL, what's it called? Sunday ticket. Sunday ticket package. So they're already going to have to figure out that. The bars just got to go to smart TVs. Yeah.

Yeah. That's all they do. Do they have to work out like a deal with them though with Peacock? Because don't bars have to pay extra? If they get a pay-per-view fight, theyacock? Because don't bars have to pay extra? If they get a pay-per-view fight, they pay thousands. They don't pay $59.99. They did the same thing last year.

They worked out something with Amazon so they could carry the Thursday night games. So there's definitely something in place where they can go and figure it out. Every TV from now on is a smart TV, right? If you're getting a new TV, it's a smart TV, right? It has all the apps already preloaded and everything. There's no – yeah. So moving forward, it should be much easier. Yeah, it should be. Shout out to Goodell, man, getting the bread.

Oh, my God. Money is going pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. NFL is a big business, man. So much more money now. Yeah. Going forward. So you can basically – these networks pretty much bid individually on games. It used to be like, oh, a lot of the CBS games are on the AFC games are on CBS and

the packages are done before the season. Right now, we're almost bidding in real time. We're a couple weeks out. How do they work it out? I don't know. Isn't that Schefter tweet where he kind of talks about the major changes? Don't we know? We know right now who's carrying what games, right? Or do we not? I don't know. Now this is where

they're going to bid on them and say, hey, ABC or Fox has this one, CBS has this one. I thought I saw after the schedule release came out, I swore I saw a headline like, yeah, that's a thing, but it's still like Cowboys are on Fox like 10 times. The Chiefs are on CBS. Yeah, it only ended up affecting like two or three games. Oh, okay.

So there's a couple games that were open to, hey, you guys, let's see, these go to the highest bidder? I saw Chiefs still had a high, high majority of their games are still on CBS. Yeah, because Romo and Nance, or I think Nance came out and said it's very possible that me and Tony do nine Chiefs games this year. Oh, okay. I wonder how much Peacock paid for this.

What was it? Because we saw like $110 million. Was that for the Black Friday game, though? I believe so. I would guess playoffs are probably more than that. Oh, my gosh. Would you double it for a playoff game? Double it? I'd probably bump it up a few. What are they paying yearly?

Like ESPN? For how many games? Yeah, they're paying for 15, 16 games. But it's a billion? Yeah, I think at least. So I guess, yeah, maybe $150 million. I mean, for one game. But it's the only thing on. They're not competing with anybody.

Yeah, how are they going to – well, it's on Peacock, so they just want to drive subscriptions. They want people to sign up for the app. Yeah. They don't care about selling ads. So ESPN pays $1.9 billion every year for theirs. Fox and CBS both pay about a billion per year.

NBC pays $960 million per year for Sunday night. A billion per year just to carry the games. It's absurd. How many households are watching the games? Oh yeah. They wouldn't be bidding if they weren't making money on it.

They wouldn't continue to bid on that because they know that's the number one game on the planet right now is live NFL football. That's what makes all the money. Wide, wide, wide margin. The only thing close would be international soccer, right? Soccer overseas somewhere? But it's not.

I don't think it's. Not in the States. Not in the States, no. But would it be equivalent over there, like what the Premier League or whatever? I don't know because there's so many more teams. There are only 30. There's a thousand leagues. Yeah, exactly. Maybe the Champions League would be the thing that you could compare to.

I assume they have giant TV deals, right? Oh, yeah. I assume it's the old thing. When we feel good about ourselves and talk about how football is the biggest sport in the world and soccer people get mad at you. There's 17 billion people watch this one soccer game.

I'm talking right here where we are in America. Last year they had that graphic of the top 100 most watched events of the year and the NFL had 24 of the top 25 and the only other one was State of the Union or something.

It didn't stop there, too. From 25 to 50, there were more NFL games than college games started to get made in there. Football is king. It always will be. Why is that? What do you think? Because every game means... It's American sport.

Gladiators. There's only 17. Glass eaters. I guess because people love physicality. People see it. Big freaks hit each other. But also, there's only 17 games now. Each game, I think, means so much.

When you watch basketball, 82 games. Baseball, what, 162? You can come and go. It doesn't matter. But I guess football, we know how much rides in every single play, I think. They're also easy to find. Like, everyone knows. I mean, Sunday, you watch the NFL.

And the whole week, I guess, promotes all the games. Exactly. It's like a buildup the whole week. And it's not like the NBA or the MLB or NHL where it's like, hey, which network? It's like there are three channels, and now most people are just like, oh, I'll just get Sunday ticket, and I can watch whatever team I want to. So Sky Sports in the U.K UK pays for a three-year deal,

a total of $6.3 billion for the Premier League. So what does that do? How many teams are in the Premier League? How many games is that? Do we have any idea? I think they're on match week 32 right now. Yeah, and that's close to the end, right? Is that the biggest league?

Yeah. The Premier League? Yeah, where you get relegated. What do you know? Yeah, that's where you want to get to, Yeah, that's where Ryan Reynolds' league is. His team just got bumped up? Yeah, but they're still not at the Premier League. Oh.

They play 38 matches. I guess, yeah. I mean, obviously they're making cash. That's why they do it. Yeah, well, in sports gambling now, football has also added another layer because now all these people who might be casual fans, instead of being a casual fan, your money's on the game you're gonna watch the you're gonna watch the entire game which is kind of what fantasy football did what 20 exactly got people tuned in that didn't really know much

about football and got made them fans and that's also why like if you're a packers fan or a patriots fan or a steelers fan or whatever like you have no problem watching the browns and you know whoever because it's like oh i, I'll bet on this. That's cool. Whereas if you're watching baseball or basketball, you might still bet on it, but I don't think it's not the same as like, oh, I'll watch the whole game because I have money

on it. I don't think people really do that with other sports like they do the NFL. I think someone might be on the line. Hello. What's up? Well, you know, today's a big-time day because we're about to have a night nurse. Oh, wow. Big day.

You know, we're getting one of those. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. Incredibly lucky to be in a position to be doing it, but had to clean the entire second floor where the nursery is. So this morning's been a bit hectic over here. Sweating my balls off, having a good time. You guys have been crushing it. I believe what you were talking about there, and correct me if I'm wrong,

is watching entire games because you have money on them? Yeah, people are more inclined to watch an entire NFL game if they bet on it than they are if they bet on a hockey game or an NBA game or a baseball game. So the NHL playoffs have been awesome. Incredible. Last night's game was fucking electrifying. I mean, it was 0-0 like halfway through the second,

but it was, I think shots were at one point like 15 shots for seattle 16 shots for dallas i mean it was boom bang pow poo poo hockey view explosives you know the whole damn time but you're right i i've been betting on every single game every single night that's been happening i find myself going over fourth quarter, you know, like kind of checking out late third period. But with the NFL, if you're not in a rooting interest, I mean, gambling on the games is certainly a game changer. I mean, we see it with our significant others.

I assume you guys do. I see it with my wife. She'll be forced because of what her profession is to watch a game that she has zero rooting interest in. And that isn't necessarily like, I mean, she signed up for it so she's a badass she is she is an absolute badass but her being able to put a little scratch off on a game has certainly made the viewing experience better for everything and the nfl is certainly leading the way in that whole thing has as fantasy football taking a hit with all with sports gambling becoming legal or are people just incorporating gambling into

fantasy football? Yeah, the tone? I believe they're just doing both. Daily fantasy. Okay, good. Because fantasy is what we said earlier, Pat. Like, 20 years ago, I think fantasy football brought some casuals to NFL football. It brought more fans because, oh, what are my guys doing? But they're picking and

choosing individual players. But now gambling, you have to watch till the end. Do you remember when they said fantasy football is going to ruin team fandom? Did they really? Hell yeah. Oh, okay. Maybe I wasn't paying attention. Because people didn't care about their teams anymore.

They only cared about players. So people that were fans of teams would now be rooting for players that were potentially playing against their team that they're a fan of. And that was like the big, Oh, these are fantasy. They don't even care about their team anymore. It's like,

I don't know. I've never gotten into the fantasy. I respect people that spend all the time. Like tone started fantasy football as a whole. So like we have a, we have a weapon in the office in tone digs when it comes to fantasy. But like, other than not having to puke

after you do a beer mile when you lose like isn't like betting can't we make all the bets the fantasy football has and get like instant gratification or am i wrong in that tone i mean you can if you're doing like uh the daily uh for football where it's like you have a new lineup every week because you think that person is going to do well that week, yeah, you could take their over-under. You could take their over for that week instead of doing a daily fantasy lineup with them for sure. Yeah.

One day we'll do fantasy, AJ. We did, remember? This year. Was that this season or what? Yeah, this season we did, remember? Yeah, I think me and Bill got last place, I believe. He did. Pat, you do fantasy football back, man?

I've never did fantasy football. I was just about to say, the players never think about that. I don't think. When I was playing, I never thought about it. But now after football, I'd rather think about who's going to win. I think I got a better chance of winning betting the games than worry about fantasy. Me, personally.

I hate to break it to you back we don't have a fucking clue it is honestly like i had these grand visions too i'm like wow sports gambling being legal and being regulated will be such a good pipeline for former players because they used to say that 80 of nfl players would go broke within two years of their retirement or three years of their retirement because of whatever financial situation they put themselves in and handling money is not an easy thing at all especially when you come from none so a lot of people that talk about it have you know they don't i don't think you fully comprehend the situation but in my eyes i was like sports gambling is going to become the perfect pipeline for all these guys.

They know the games better than everybody else. They know the NFL better than everybody else. They're at least going to be able to consult or tell people why they should be betting on whatever they're betting on. It has not worked out that way. Pack. We don't know. Fuck it.

It is. You can get somebody that knows nothing about sports. That'll get a better betting record than us. It is. It makes no sense, Pac-Man. It makes no fucking sense. I mean, people are listening to that corgi for the Lakers-Warriors series because the corgi hit the basketball into the right basket for five straight games.

Well, the corn have been right more times than I think Tome have been. Who has? The corn. Oh, been. Who has? The Korn. Oh, shit. The Korn? Oh, the Korn. I'm quite sure you counted. Love you, Korn.

Oh, yeah. Tone counted us out? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Tone's not a big fan. The Korn believed in us. I don't bet they didn't tell us. The Korn believed in us.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's right. We're not up there right now. Huh? Pac, you're a Knights fan? Oh, hold on. Since we're talking about Knights, I got a new best friend.

Uh-oh. Pac, new best friend. We texting every day. I guess we're best friends. We texting every day. Yeah. He's teaching me about high-key stoner. Let's go.

Stoner. Yes. I'm waiting for you to get back. We got to get him on the show. I got my boy Ty, a fucking Jersey. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You're texting with Stoner?

Text him yesterday. Of course. Yeah, text him yesterday. Unreal. Pat, I did not know. This is really for real. I did not know that your Rolodex went into that deep of Caucasians as well. Unbelievable.

Y'all got me on the high key. What do you guys text about? Does he text you with an accent? Or do you text him back and say, hey? Hey, Pac-Man, what you have for breakfast? Some of the things you hear here. He probably look at my text like, oh, he's pretty slang. I'm like, yo, what's up?

I put smell me on there. So obviously he watched the show. He understood what smell me. Oh, that's awesome. Smell me, man. You know what I mean? where's he from you canada you texting him hey is your back straight that was one of the texts go ahead pal i said yeah that was one of the texts too i seen you man your dog is your back straight autocorrect different down there in atlanta

scrum donor's a dog huh oh yeah oh yeah jackie aces needs to get that hatchet too so we can donate or whatever they're old buddy got a natural the other night right yeah marsh so and also now that we have the conference finals, we have to keep in mind that Bubba Campino is white-knuckling right now. Listen to us talk about how much we want the Golden Knights to beat the Stars. I'm a big – I like the color green. Sure. My eyes are green. You know, I'm Irish.

I like green. Of course, St. Patrick's Day. Yep. Boom. Named after me. The whole – how'd you feel about that Dallas arena, how green it is? I don't know. It's –

The green out? Super green. I mean, it was super green. I respect it. I appreciate it. And that seemed like a loud barn. It seemed like a loud barn. It was bumping.

They were singing during the third period, I believe. What's the song? Was that Living on a Prayer? Yeah, there it was. Or Bon Jovi. Yeah, John Bon Jovi. John Bon Jovi. Yeah, they sang John Bon Jovi.

I thought of UConn, man, right when that happened. They sang that other song, too, didn't they? What's the other one? They do Mr. Brightside. Oh, they do? Yeah. It's like the abs do. What's the abs do?

Blink-182? Yeah. There's all the weird, like, why do these hockey barns have these unique songs they all sing? I like it. I'm looking for it. They're European. Let's do it in the NFL. People, you know. I don't know. That's a European

thing, I think. Don't you think? It's more like soccer. I respect it. I love it. But if your fans are singing in the middle of a football game, probably not going to work. Good point. Yeah, I guess it doesn't quite work that way. But I'll tell you what, Dallas, he stood on his head last night. Oh, my goodness.

That was a fucking dog. So did Crocken guy. Yeah, Grubauer. Grubauer, yeah. Bill was really down in the dumps this morning when he came in. He was not happy that the Kraken lost in his historical run. How about Billy McComas? How about Billy McComas being an honorable lad, too? Yeah. He's not happy that the Kraken lost in his historical run. How about Billy McComas being an honorable lad, too?

Yeah. He's commendable. Putting that sweet out last night. He's a good guy. Why is Bill a Kraken guy? Well, he's been a fan since day one. What was that, eight months ago? When did they start?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. Okay, 12 months ago? Two seasons ago. Two seasons ago. So this is the second season. Okay, good. Congrats. Yeah, it's a great squad. Two seasons. Two seasons ago. So this is the second season. Okay, good. Congrats.

Yeah, it's a great squad. He's been through a lot. Hawk, do you know what they did last year? They didn't do anything. Bill has a good night's. Golden Knights only been around for like, what, five years? Yeah. Was it year one they went to the Stanley Cup Finals? Yeah, this is their fourth time in the Western Conference Finals.

How does that happen? Stoner. What do you mean, how does that happen? Do I have to fucking say it? happen? I know, Stoner. Well, actually, it happened early because Marc-Andre Fleury. That is a big reason. And the Western Conference kind of stinks.

While Bill put in 50 goals. Yeah. Hockey. Pat, did you see any of this Devontae stuff? Yeah, I did. So, I you see any of this Devontae stuff? Yeah, I did. I don't think I knew anything about Devontae. I was reading his quotes. I'm like, oh, I didn't know that's

the way Devontae... Devontae's awesome. I didn't expect a lot. Yeah, I don't see eye to eye with the Raiders right now on how they think about running their fucking offense. Awesome head coach is the offense coordinator. Love that. And by the way, I agree. If Dev it i mean davante has every right to think it and then i also enjoyed him saying like yeah you can just write down fuck all the numbers

didn't need aaron rodgers so i love that never ever ever say that again i think or something like that right i would like davante to do more interviews i think is what i learned i would like him to talk all the time if we get a microphone at his locker i'd be appreciative because i didn't know anything about him aj were you teammates with him oh yeah i was teammates with him uh for a year and then was with him at the derby i didn't i didn't know all this strife was happening uh with the raiders just a couple weeks ago when i was with them yeah i love that. Now people can't say that. That'll never be the narrative ever again. It proved that I am me. A quarterback doesn't make me.

I make me. And I can do it consistently at this level. After being named All-Pro last year without Aaron Rodgers and with Carr as his quarterback, he didn't throw Carr under the bus, obviously, because they know each other from college. But he almost said, you seen what the fuck I was dealing with last year.

I made all pros. No, he almost said it. He said it. Yeah. He said that Carr was nowhere near as good as this other guy over here. He basically said Carr was a piece of work, a piece of shit that he was playing with last year. A piece of shit that I was playing with last year.

Did y'all see it? Y'all fired him halfway through the season. His college roommate? It's almost kind of like an MJ thing, too, where someone probably was just like, Devonta, you're so lucky to play with Aaron Rodgers. And they didn't mean to

have it as a shot, but Devonta was probably like, fuck Aaron Rodgers is so lucky to play with me. What about me? I'm sure some reporters I'm sure have asked them questions over the years where they were just kind of – I'm sure it was their tone and how they talked to us. Do you think you could do this without Aaron? I'm sure there's multiple that stick in his mind where he's like,

all right, man, like, no, no. Now, Devontae, you would have to admit, pretty easy to be open when you have a quarterback that can throw the ball into a dartboard. Yeah, that's exactly how it sounds too. What Devontae hears is Devontae, any fucking clown could do what you do with Aaron Rodgers.

Now he's airing it out. Now he's letting us know. Bob Domofsky. Was that a Bob invitation by you? I don't think I've ever heard Bob talk. That was just my standard insider media reporter voice just because that is what it sounds like. You know how in the Peanuts it's like,

wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. I think a lot of players, whenever they hear media talk, they just automatically hear, Sal, what are you thinking about today? I think that's just. So I apologize to all media people that are offended by that. But if you're offended by that, you probably think you sound like that. And maybe it's time to change.

Always a good time to change. Always a good time. You see your boy Will Levis? Will Levis slaying that thing. He looks like Ryan Tannehill, though. He looks exactly like Ryan Tannehill in the clip I saw. The one where he rolled right? Yeah.

Completed. Was that really a good ball? Yeah, probably. I mean. I'll. Completed. Was that really a good ball? Yeah, probably. I mean. I'll just ask him. Yeah, it was. Was that really a good ball? NFL tweeted it.

Look, he moves like Tannehill. And then he even flicks the ball like Tannehill. Is that a good ball? It looked like a whack. I mean. Whack. Look at this ball. This is where we are right now at May 16th, I guess.

This guy's going to be a dog, guys. Look at this ball. Quack. Look at that quick release. Well, I don't see it wobbling, but I mean. So my issue is. He better be able to make that throw. They were acting like this throw was incredible.

I think Levis would even say, like, this is just a ho-hum throw. It's a throwaway play. It's a scramble in a seven-on-seven period. So it's a broken-down play where he's like, all right, we got to scramble and everyone go plaster your guy. It's just, here we go. Good catch. Good little back shoulder.

But it's nothing. But you are right, AJ. This is May 16th. This is what we're doing. But that's the thing about Will Levis. That's the difference between him and Anthony Richardson. Because I didn't hear Will Levis was cleaning up cafeterias all by himself. That's because he hasn't left the facility.

He's been sitting in the meeting room with his iPad. He eats the banana peel. So there's nothing to clean up. That's a good point. No waste. No waste. He's pretty efficient. Does he eat the plate too? Yes. I guarantee you I watched him drink a martini and he ate the whole glass. They said he's pretty fucking intense, so I wouldn't be

surprised if he's eaten glass after he's done getting a glass of milk. Didn't some old wrestlers used to do that, Pat? Didn't they used to eat glass? Who? I've seen guys bite like martini glasses and chew on the glass in small. In Beer Fest, they did it. George the Animal Steel might have. He used to eat the turnbuckle.

What? I hope not. What a fucking beast. I think I've seen, I mean, WWE superstar Super Hellman. I think I've seen him eat glass before. I don't think Super Hellman has been signed to the WWE. No, he's not a WWE superstar, Conor. Oh, Jesus. I thought I saw him.

I saw him and Ezekiel walking side by side. He works the internet territory. He does. How is that guy? How is Superhuman? Is he still doing his thing? Yeah. He is? Yeah.

Yeah. He is? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he is. Yeah. That'll do. That'll do. Yeah. Ty's like angry face when he's super pissed.

Yeah. Hummond's got his fastball back. He does. He lost it for a little bit. I don't want to move on from Hummond because he deserves all the chatter and he doesn't get enough. But neither does Dick. Yeah, that'll do.

Oh my. He's got me through some late nights here on Night Shift. Oh yeah. I don't know what Mackenzie's first words are going to be, but it might be when he has that costume on in that mall. Oh, my God. I have watched that clip maybe 50 times over the last five days.

So good. Too much fucking shit. So fucking hot in here. Shut the fuck up. His name is what? Tim Robbins? Yeah, Tim Robinson Actually, the second season

Or the third season of that Is coming out in like two weeks Yep Season AJ What is it? I think you should leave Oh, I've seen the pictures of this

Yeah, you wore the mask for Halloween So, is this like a reality show? No It's a kid show It's a kid show? Exactly Skits What's up, Pat?

I can't hear you. I know you. What? I cannot believe you. This is made for you. This show actually made for you. Is it on the internet? Is that just on Netflix?

Oh, it's on Netflix. What's it called? I think you should leave. I think an episode's like 16 minutes, too. It flies by. Yeah, they go quick. And it's actually good? Oh, yeah.

Well. Not all of them. There are some missing. Yeah. Wait, is it ironically? So it's so bad it's good? Or is well not all of them there are some missing yeah so wait is it ironically is it so it's so bad it's good no no there are there are hilarious episodes and skits and then like sometimes he won't be in them and then they're obviously not as funny because he is the main attraction of the show and he's the one that he needs uh he needs to stop trying to make

other people put over other people over he needs to he needs to understand what it is hey pal we're here for your fucking weird brain his brain is maybe the most obscure i've seen in some time hey you will love this dude aj i'm talking toxic dry yeah whole thing okay every in skits skits are like a minute to like three minutes long and then they just end out of nowhere and then we're going right to another one completely different quick transition oh okay i'm i'm upset i haven't seen this guy yet it sounds amazing he's so good i just watched my truck yeah yeah yeah we gotta find whose car that is i That particular skit, AJ? That particular skit right there? A hot dog, a Wienermobile

crashed into this store. He was trying to prove that it was not his, but he was going to go try to find who drove the Wienermobile into the store. He's dressed like this. Steals a bunch of shirts on his way

out and ties and stuff like that. Alright, I think I'll check this guy out. I've seen enough. There was one where he's late to a party. That's my new favorite one. Which one? He's late to a party and they had to make up an excuse on why

they were late to the party and he takes it way too far. I don't know if you've seen it yet. I'll send it to you. It's awesome. Babysitter. Please do. You watched Succession, Matt?

You caught up? What's that, buddy? You caught up on Succession? Yeah. That was good. I told Grant before we came on the air, there was a lot happening in that episode. It was a good one. I loved it.

I loved everything about it. Oh, Gregory Peggery. Yeah. Some drug use, some stimulants. It was amazing. one i loved it i love everything about it oh greggy pegg gregory peggory yeah yeah a little some drug use some well so stimulants it was amazing huge greg how about him being called how about him being called racist in front of the dry erase board that was one of the right the actors are so good like they are they cast that thing perfectly like everyone is yeah tom being all the Aztecs? Don't be a racist. I'm going to

get out of here. Hey, that place looks clean though. It looks good. Good job, buddy. Wow. Looks nice. Hell yeah. Hey, on my way out here I would just like to I'd like to say Can you read that? Yeah. Go ahead, Adrian. here, I would just like to say.

Can you read that? Yeah. Go ahead, Adrian. You guys got it? You want us to read it out loud? Yeah. You talking to us? I'd say, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can you keep it in frame? He said, here's to the crazy

ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes, the ones who see things differently as you're shaking this thing all around and you're cutting off a little bit of it. They're not fond of rules. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because something else. Keep going, AJ. Because they change things. Keep AJ. Because they change things. Keep going.

Because they change things. They push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world are the ones who do. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Scootsy, sorry. Scootsy just came in and attacked my

leg mid-recap. But, hell yeah. That's you's you aj that's the boys yeah you're you're not crazy to me you guys are genius you're doing fantastic i'll be back on the program tomorrow hell yeah hell yeah how we go jack i've had some people tweet me ask me why i've been gone for so long as well i'm trying to be a good partner for my wife. Had a kid. Father now. This is not easy, this whole parenting thing. You guys have another one quick?

I think that's going to be a... Hey, can you imagine? Some people have like twins and triplets and quads. That one freaks me out sometimes, thinking about that. Didn't Dan Orlovsky have triplets? Yes, he did. Oh, he did. Recently? How? What the fuck? How are these people doing this? Yes, he did. Oh, he did. Recently? How? What the fuck? How are these people doing this?

I don't know. Octo Mom had eight. She did, yeah. Remember her? She did that on purpose. How are they doing? I don't know. I didn't know Dane had triplets.

Yeah, three boys. Wow. Dr. Drew as well. Could you imagine getting dropped into triplets your first time? Hell no. That's a lot of poop. It's like the border. Like what? A lot of poop, a lot of time's like the border a lot of time yeah it's a lot that's a lot yeah did you hear pac-man there pat or no no what do you say a lot of what he said just like the border

jesus who knows jesus who knows well i haven't paid close enough attention because i've been kind of wrapped up in my own poop here uh sure with mackenzie yeah but shout out to all the moms dude shout out to all the moms and you know what this is kind of selfish for me but i'm gonna say too the dads that are around because like sam's, Sam's doing all of the badassery, obviously, and she's recovering fantastically. He is obsessed with his baby, which is awesome to watch. It's been her dream to be a mama, and we've been through a lot to get there. But, like, boy, when I get tagged in, you know, for a relief for Sam

so she can, you know, take a snooze or whatever, the anxiety of every sound, like is this baby dying? Every single breath is like, is that normal? And then she starts crying. It's like, well, she's hungry. She's got to be hungry.

So then you feed her and then she's still crying afterwards. Like, oh, she must have pooped. So then you go check the diaper. There's nothing there. Well, we just went through a full thing to check out that there was nothing in the fucking diaper now what was it oh she just had to rip a massive fart that's what she had to do that's why she was crying so it's like the anxiety

of caring for a human is something that i don't think i was prepared for but i've enjoyed the hell out of it i've been very thankful for my wife and tomorrow i hop back in the saddle and we'll see how everything goes to get back in there i'm a little bit worried about my voice giving out because i haven't really talked that much but trying to be quiet around the baby but also making noise because i don't want her to be soft asshole baby smart oh yeah of course i'm excited and you guys have done a fantastic job i can't wait to see you and And AJ, I love you, brother. I appreciate you traveling in for this.

Hey, love you, man. Good work with you. Sam seemed to have it under control, though. For being people thrown into parenthood a couple weeks before, you thought it was going to happen, too. You guys seem to seamlessly figure this thing out. I don't know about seamlessly. I got four kids.

I know what a chaotic situation is. Trust me, it's nothing. How? What do you mean? Well, I think as kids get older, you just deal with different issues, like different things. It's not as like, hey, this one's not like – it's very physically grueling when you have a young baby,

and then as they get older, it gets mentally like, okay, then I start to worry about it because they have to deal with real-life situations. Like I got a daughter that's almost a teenager. You have all that situation. So you talk about like anxiety and worry yeah it happens all the time sam's sam obviously is gonna want another child i think right i think that's gonna happen you know you're very you're still virile you're still shooting frothy ones i um it's trending today you've you've got super calm yeah it is congrats man i do have i did not give my cum study because of the way we had to know about it i actually know for a fact what they say you're awesome they just said hey you're awesome

well i do appreciate that they gave like a baseline of standard you know and then like they let it going in they're like here's what we the numbers we should be looking for and everything like that and then when you come in way over time it does feel pretty good you know it does it does use soft charts yeah yeah you know up and to the right was what the graph was doing and uh i like that i certainly like that a lot. I don't know how. I don't know how I have enough. I'm a low anxiety person.

I don't know how I have more energy and emotion to care more about every single thing that something does, which is what happens with this baby. Maybe I'll grow into it. Maybe it'll get easier. Who knows? That's certainly certainly gonna be a combo with the old wife at some point i think i'll try to stay away from it she's watching right now so she certainly just heard this pretty early you guys are pretty early to really start playing it i guess yeah i don't know about another one. I'll spoil Brat 1 with the I don't know. It's pretty good.

Could you imagine two? You have four. Pac-Man's got 45 kids. Pac has a bunch of kids in his house. I don't know how you guys do it, bro. Shout out to you guys, honestly. Shout out to everybody. I will see you all tomorrow. I appreciate you all. See you tomorrow, Pat. He'll be back in the seat.

Thank you very much, Pat, for joining us. Thank you. Michael Yes, sir. Hey. See you tomorrow, Pat. He'll be back in the seat. Thank you very much, Pat, for joining us. Hey, Pat! Michael Lombardi. Thank you, Adrian. Thank you, my man. I appreciate it. It's nice to be here. Hope all you're doing well. Congratulations to Pat and Samantha. That's awesome. You know, I think it's, like I said, they're on a great journey.

The better journey is when you become a grandparent, but that's a long way out. Oh, yeah. Then you can give them back, right? Isn't that what you always say as a grandparent? Exactly. You can spoil the hell out of them. Watch a lot of Miss Rachel.

Pat's about to embark on a lot of Miss Rachel. That's what he's about to embark on. That's awesome. You don't even know who Miss Rachel is, but he's going to find out. He's going to figure a lot of stuff out, I think, probably over the next six months to a year. Yeah, when you get thrown in, your life changes a bit i think when you have you introduce a baby into the household home longbow no no doubt no doubt but it's great rewards and you know you fat the family gets extended and you get to share in their in their joys and that's what it's all about you

know you get to move a generation and you get to experience their happiness and that's the you know been part of my life with my wife, Millie, and my two sons. So it's great. It is. Lombo, I know, quick pivot. I know you don't have a ton of time here, but have you seen this stuff going on with Devontae? Whatever he, Devontae Adams is talking about what's going on out there with the Las Vegas

Raiders and everything that's happening there. It seems like he and McDaniels might not be on the same page for whatever reason. You know, I don't get that sense. I mean, look, you know, full disclosure, my son's the offensive coordinator. So, you know, and I'm never privy to a lot of what goes on. We have conversations that just talk about my granddaughter, Sienna, and Michael and Dominic, but I don't get that sense. You know, I get the sense that they feel like they're striving to get to the right place. You know, I know I saw Devontae's comments about he proved that he doesn't need Aaron to be a great player,

which I think he's already proven that before, even when he was with Aaron, you know, because it takes two to tango. You know, some of those catches he made with Aaron, not many human beings are going to make. Oh, yeah, no question. Yeah, it's just, it's a question. Yeah, it's a telling time or it's a weird time for this to come out on May 16th when he decides to, I guess, have issues with whatever the direction may be because, you know, they're three weeks

into their install, right? We don't really know what they're going to be, so we'll definitely pay attention. But what do you think if there is, like, McDaniels in this new territory for him having to deal with something where a player is speaking in the media? That's not a thing that happened too much when he was in New England that's got to be kind of a new thing that he hasn't dealt with yeah I think you know and too you know he's a game specific offensive coordinator so everything that Josh has always done in his

career in New England you know when he was in St. Louis and then back to New England as a head coach in Denver it's always been game specific. How do we get this player the ball? How do we maximize Devontae? I mean, Devontae just doesn't line up like, you know, Reggie Wayne in one spot. You know, they move him around quite a bit. They're trying to always get him the football. So, you know, I think it's all about the matchups.

And that's why, you know, if he's discontented about the role i mean he had a ton of targets last year and i think with jimmy garoppolo i think he's going to get as many targets as he possibly can i think the team will be improved this year i mean last year they couldn't close out any games they had chances and just couldn't make plays they made way too many mistakes in the fourth quarter boston connor has something for you yeah michael we're kind of like the dead time right now with the NFL news. No, this is not the dead time. This is Buzz Lightyear's time. This is everybody's light years ahead of where they were last year.

We're in Buzz Lightyear time. I mean, we went from lion season to proclamation season. Now, oh, my God, this guy's light years ahead. I mean, Bryce Young has done this. This guy's done that. I mean, this is like the greatest time of all to read. I mean, Justin Fields is light years ahead of where he was last year. I miss the games he played in. I didn't see those games, Boston.

I missed them, but I guess he is. Michael, we're on the same page, and that's actually exactly what I wanted to talk to you about because all we're really referencing is the over-under for Wynn's record. Everyone is projected to be somewhere between 11.5 and then 4.5 when you go down to Houston with C.J. Stroud, another rookie quarterback. Are there any guys you think that we can look at as rookies, like, hey, they're definitely going to make an impact right away

and they're going to help this team win more than one game? Or is this this to your point just proclamation everybody's the best everybody's made huge steps in the offseason already and all these teams are going to be much better than they were before yeah i mean a little bit of it is you know certainly there there's growth that's going to happen i mean i i missed that san francisco has three franchise quarterbacks kyle mentioned that the other day i must have missed that memo that went around. But I do think Bryce Young is going to be able to play within himself.

I think part of being a rookie is, you know, Bill Walsh used to say this all the time, the first year will teach the players the system. The second year will develop their skills within the system. And so when you're a young player, you're just really trying to learn the system. I think Bryce Young has command, and I think he has the ability to be really quickly learn the system. And with their running game and that offensive line, you know, they're going to play a little slower.

They're going to have to try to keep him from having to make mistakes. And how do you do that? You do that by not getting behind. I mean, the number one stat in football has always been and will always be first half point differential. Who goes into halftime with the lead? And when you you have a young quarterback that's got to be the goal we got to play from in front you let these young quarterbacks play from behind then it's problematic i mean that's why justin field sat 91 times in the last two seasons you're playing from behind in a lot of games and that's not good adam pacman j Jones has something for you, Mike. Hey, Mike, how you doing? Did you see the video clip of Will Levis throwing the ball in the NFL park?

I just don't get this. They act like it was a dark. Have you seen the clip? No, I haven't, but I try to. Blow your way, Mike. I mean, look. Here it is. Looks like Tannehill.

Looks like Tannehill. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look. Oh, this was a dime. Look at it. Woo! That's easy. Really good Tannehill. I mean, look. Oh, this was a dime. Look at it. That's easy. Really good ball right there. Of all people, I mean, how many guys

have you played with that were all OTAs? And then when the game started, they didn't become anything. We used to call it, when I was at the Raiders, all Alameda. Because these guys would be great when we were practicing in Alameda. But once we got to the games, it was like, oh, we're in trouble. They don't do anything.

Preseason games, no less. So I take rookie minicamps, OTA days with a grain of salt because I've seen too many guys. I wrote about this in Gridiron Genius. I call them card players. When you show the player the card of where to go, they play good. But football is an instinctive game is it run or pass do i go right do i go left and you know sometimes during these

camps you don't have to you take that element out of it ty smith michael i know everyone wants to hear you know your takes on football and rightfully so that's that's why we love having you on but i happen to know that there are a few things you love talking about more than your beloved Philadelphia 76ers. This morning they fired Doc Rivers, and now there's James Harden talking about how he's circled the Suns as one of the teams he potentially is going to be looking at next. Maybe that'll change now that Doc's gone. Ultimately, though, obviously another disappointment this year. What do you think the Sixers need to do to get over the hump and quit driving you absolutely batshit insane?

I've divorced myself from them. I've been in this place that I feel really good about because I haven't liked them. I still love the team. I hate the direction. It started with Sam Henke when he came in back in 2013, and he said, we're going to lose. So it started with Sam Henke when he came in back in 13, and he said, we're going to lose.

And I think on Sunday, it proved out to me to be exactly what I've been preaching about for the last five years. You can't build a championship team based on no culture. So Sam Henke was in this asset management. We're going to collect assets. We're going to lose, okay, and we're going to get all these high draft picks, and we're going to bring all this talent in, and we're going to win. Well, talent is great. Everybody needs talented players. But talent that doesn't work hard, talent that's not accountable, talent that's not in shape, talent that doesn't do the things it has to do to be prepared to win, never wins. And I think that's the 76ers. I mean, do the body fat on Joel Embiid. I mean, in the second quarter the other day,

he couldn't barely make it up and down the court. Everybody's the greatest player. I mean, everybody goes, oh, Dick Vitale. Oh, my God, he's the greatest. He's never been in shape. But that's not his fault. That's the organization allowing this to happen. Remember, you're either coaching it or allowing it to happen.

And firing Doc is, that's fine. Doc doesn't hold anybody accountable. But there's no teeth in an organization. There's no teeth there. So if you don't buy into the program and there is no program, you're never going to win a championship. I've said this for the last eight, seven years. They'll never win a championship there. I'm resigned to it.

You can keep firing coaches. But until you change the program, until your best player decides he's going to get in shape, you know, he cried after the Toronto game. Oh, I'm so sad. The next year he comes back, he's still out of shape. Like, when does it become important to win? I want to win the MVP. Oh, great. You're the MVP. That's wonderful. I'll put it over here on my thing, but there's no parade for the MVP. There's no parade for that. You got it. Who cares?

I want to win. I want to win championships. You don't tack on culture after you've already spoiled players. And all you guys have been former players, and you know the best coaches are the ones who drove you to become your best. What do you think of his postgame comments when he basically said, like, I can't do it alone? I mean, well, you know what he's really good at he's good at being able to get everybody on his side i mean he's got the worldwide leader that got him the mvp and then the guy that helped him to get i won't mention his name the guy that got him the mvp trove because

he said how great he was he turned on him on sunday he's like oh my god this is a horrible no if you paid attention all year you watch this guy barely get up and down the court. I mean, I'm a fat guy who loves football. I see this as obvious as anybody, right? Like it's as obvious as a nose on my face. It's like, to me, it's a great lesson for any sport to understand that if you don't push talent, talent is never going to win titles, you know, and you walk away. Look, the most talented team, you guys are way too young to remember them, but the most talented team in the history of the NFL probably was the Houston Oilers back when Warren Moon was there. They had multiple Hall of Famers, multiple Pro Bowlers.

They couldn't get to the conference championship game because they didn't have any mental toughness or physical. Nobody was driving them. You know, everybody was placating them. Everybody was playing nice. Everybody gets to play right field. You know, that everybody was placating them. Everybody was playing nice. Everybody gets to play right field. You know, it's one of those things. That doesn't work to win championships. Somebody who was very mentally tough and always in peak physical shape.

Tone Diggs has a question. Thank you, AJ. I appreciate that. Thank you. That means a lot coming from you. You're welcome. You have a question. Yeah. Longbow. I pre-ordered football done, right. Can I get you to sign that for me, please? I would love to. It'd be my honor to sign it for you. You know, I got to tell you, for a fat kid that barely could pass English to write a second book, I'm happy that anybody asked me to sign it, you know. So I'm really honored to do that.

It's one of the great thrills of life. I'm excited about the book because I think the book tries to shed some light on we have gotten into it. We've politicized the Hall of Fame into we've politicized the hall of fame we've politicized the mbp everything becomes a popularity contest and i think for example the great sterling sharp and pac-man i don't know if you were playing when he came in but this guy averages 6.5 touchdowns every catch you know he played seven years they say oh he can't get in the hall of fame because he didn't play long enough well basselli's in he played seven years ter They say, oh, he can't get in the Hall of Fame because he didn't play long enough. Well, Vasselli's in. He played seven years. Terrell Davis is in. He played six. This guy was one of the best players in the league, and nobody gives him any credit. Even his brother said he's

better than I am, and I'm in the Hall of Fame. So my book tries to shed some light on players that I think have been overlooked, and then I talk about the history of the game and the impact of the coaches that have really made this a special sport. Marlboro, I know you got to get out of here soon. Last thing for me, are you going to write another book? And when does this, is this one out yet? This one comes out September 5th. You can pre-order now at your favorite places online, whether it's Amazon, Barnes & Noble,

wherever you get your books. My next book, my next book is going to be about, basically it's going, I'm going to write it with, hopefully I'm going to write it with somebody from the academic side. I have a person lined up to do that. I'm going to write about how to become a great coach. I think one of the reasons we started the daily coach was because we want to try to teach people how to become better coaches and we want to help everybody become a better coach. And the next book is going to be a coaching, kind of the match of how to become a great coach. And the next book is going to be a coaching, kind of the match of how to become a great coach. Because I feel bad because ex-players that go into coaching, no one's teaching them about leadership. No one's teaching about how to motivate. No one's

teaching them about what the key components of leadership is. I think it's a huge void. I think it's one of the reasons why we have such a disparity in minority hirings. I think it's in the teaching. And I think the league continues to go down this path. They should really spend more time teaching leadership. Leadership is what wins. Mike Tomlin walked into that office in Pittsburgh, and he had coordinated one year of football in Minnesota. And he walked in there, and it was immediately that they knew

that guy had the head coaching material because he was a great leader. That's what we're missing. We need more. And Mike learned it instinctively, but Mike's so smart, he got it. But I think that's what we're missing. Are people born with that or can you coach it into them? Or is it a mixture of both? How does that work, you think? I think you got to show them what it takes to be a great leader. But look, here's the reality. We've come to a league. There's two things. Managers do things right. Leaders do the right thing. And to be a leader, you got to know what to do. Like when the schedule comes out, everybody looks at the schedule and says, oh my God, I got to play this game on the road, that game on the road. I mean, the roads, it's hard to play. The crowd goes, I get all that. But you know, it bonds

the team and winning, there's nothing like winning on the road. So get all that. But it bonds the team. There's nothing like winning on the road. So you embrace that. But what I think you miss in the schedule and what great leaders do when they look at the schedule is how do they get their team ready to play in a championship? How do they get their team to compete? New England opens up with Philadelphia. You do not get ready to play Philadelphia in five days before the game. That six-pack offense is way too hard. So you got to spend time in training camp working on it. You've got to spend time in the offseason studying it, learning it. That's what a great leader does, say, hey, we're going to spend time doing this.

We're going to spend time doing that. You know, if you're Detroit and you're Dan Campbell, you've got to spend a lot of time understanding how Andy Reid opens games up, how he starts his season, how he prepares his team so you can match it. Awesome. Lambeau, thank you so much for your time. We know you got to get out of here. Oh, guys, I love it.

Thanks for having me. And look, get my man Embiid on and ask him if we'll take a body fat test and get in shape. Can you please? Yeah, we'll try. We'll do our best. We'll do our best, Lambeau. Thank you very much.

Send my best to Pat and Samantha. Thanks, guys. We'll do. Michael Lombardi. Yeah, Lambeau! So, Ty, I feel like you kind of knew you could kind of gas him up if you asked him about Embiid and the Sixers, huh? Well, yeah.

I mean, like you, I'm an avid listener of the GM Shuffle podcast, and let's just say he hasn't been happy with Joel Embiid for, I don't know. Ever? Yeah, since the Sixers got him. He has been. Was Femi happy with him? I don't know how Femi feels about it. Femi gasses him up a little bit.

He understands. Femi knows what he's doing. He knows how to get the best content out of Mike. You know what he and Femi go back and forth on is Femi's a big Justin Fields guy. He is. And Guambo just isn't sold on Justin Fields yet. And he's like, I think he used Justin on his example. He hates every Bears quarterback.

When he says, didn't they say he's light years ahead, I believe. Tua as well. Is he down on Tua? Yeah, he's a big fan of telling Femi, like, hey, I know you got a Justin Fields jersey and a Tua jersey hanging in your closet. I know you got MVP tickets on these guys. Like, you know, listen, it's not going to happen, Femi. Okay, I hate to break it to you.

It's awesome. What is the Lombardi line? That's a gambling show? Correct. Okay. And he does for different outlets, right? Writes books, gives speeches Consults, coaches A nice life right now

He has rings from New England From consultant Oh, as a consultant? He wasn't like an official front office? He had a, I think, advisor role Special advisor Yeah, it wasn't a consultant? He wasn't like an official front office? No, he had a, I think, advisor role. Yeah, it was like special advisor. Special advisor. Yeah, it wasn't a consultant role.

He was actually part of the front office. Was he the GM of the Browns? Yes. Yes. What years? Do we know? 90s, right? He mentioned Jordan Poyer.

He traded Trent Richardson. Oh, okay. So, really? Yeah. He traded him away from Cleveland to? To Indianapolis. That's a weird trade. Not for the Browns.

Yeah, not for them. Remember when that happened, though? I remember when it happened. It was crazy. First rounder. Like, what's going on? First round pick. Yeah, I know.

Was he healthy, though? I don't know. I don't think his eyes were. What do you mean? You're saying his vision wasn't great? Like, finding an open gap? Open hole? There are some screenshots.

Exactly what I was saying. Yep. Yeah, Lambeau's awesome. Lambeau. Yeah, I love what he said at the end there, specifically because I'm a Patriots fan. Oh, here's his resume. This dude, UNLV recruiting coordinator, 81 to 84. Not bad.

That's awesome. Recruiting kids that come out to Vegas. Niners scout. He loves, I mean, he always, always refers to the Niners, and he always refers to that 1998-07. Yep. Working with Al Davis and Bill Walsh. Well, he was there at Cleveland when Bill Belichick was the head coach. Yeah, that's right.

Isn't that the last playoff game they won was when Bill Belichick was the coach for the Browns? Well, no. Oh, Bake, my bad. I almost forgot. Sorry, Bake. Bake's about to kill it down in Tampa. You know that, Pat? What quarterback did he have then?

Was that Manziel 13? No. Who was 13? Yeah, who was 13, 14? Derek Anderson. Could have been like four or five. Brian Hoyer. Derek Anderson, they went 10-6, but didn't.

No, Derek was before that, I believe. Yeah, I don't know. 13, 14. He's the GM vice president of the Browns. Derek, which Derek? Derek Anderson. Jason Campbell, I believe. Jason could swing it.

That was 05, wasn't it, when Jason? That's when he came in the league and went there. Yeah. Yeah, well, either way. I mean, he's done everything. 14 was lawyer. Would Lombo get back into the game if someone tried to bring him in as like a director of pro personnel or a GM?

I'm quite sure he's doing something behind the table. He has to, right? I think he's – He's too valuable, too smart to not have something on the phone call like, hey, we need you to do this. I think he definitely – I mean, he knows everybody still, but he's said, like, I'm too vocal now with what I said. No one's going to hire me.

And his son's a coach. Exactly. He's in a good spot, too. I feel like he can make his own schedule and be out there as much as he wants or do whatever. Yeah, it's a good gig. Yeah, you know so much. That's why any time you guys have mentioned

listening to his podcast so much, because everything he says is justified and warranted and you know that he knows what he's talking about because of his resume there, what he's doing, and because of how many people he's worked with. He references Belichick, but he also references Al Davis. Al Davis is a legend of the – He has Al Davis impersonation all the time on the GM show.

He does. Yeah, what he does talk about. And I agree with him. He talks about he mentioned a little bit there how coaches he feels like need to like hire people to help them be better coach, like not but consult with people and have mentors like he's like, you're a first time head coach. You don't know everything. Like, you should reach out to people who have done it before and have someone like on a

consistent basis kind of show you the way and kind of check in with you and see if you're doing things the right way i was like that makes sense i think any profession that would make sense for but i i agree you know that's why they have coaching clinics and different things like that but a big thing that i took from him is these coaches being leaders like it's easy for a coach to be come in and know numbers but if you can't relate to the kids these days, it's hard. Yeah, and to both your points, that's what Dable did. Dable brought in a veteran, you know, Wink Martindale, and then he's also young enough where he worked in college

and he can relate to all of his players that he's coaching because not only college but also in Buffalo. That was a pretty young team for a little while with Josh Allen and all those guys. They didn't have that Von Miller presence, really. I guess they had Kyle Williams, but he kind of retired, what, Josh Allen's first year or the year before Josh Allen got there? I don't know.

Either way, Dayball is kind of young enough to relate to those guys, and then he also has hired to your point in Lombos, like, Wink Martindale, who's a veteran of the game that should be a head coach, but is sticking around to be Dable's DC. Especially now when so many of these coaches who are getting hired are young, offensive guys who don't really have any... They're play callers.

They don't have any experience in front of the room. Not only that, but don't have any life experience outside of... They've just been working for a football team basically since they got out of college. I don't know. You guys would know better, but it seems like all those guys, because you dedicate so much time to being there and just focusing on football and hoping that one day you're going to be a head coach,

it's kind of socially awkward and maybe don't really know how to interact with people very well. And granted, the younger you are, it maybe gets a little bit easier because the players that are coming into the league now are different than coaching vets and stuff like that but like it's it's way more important now than it i feel like it ever has been like actually being a leader of a team you know human you gotta be a real right that where you feel yeah you got to be able to connect with all those guys yeah because when we grew up we had to do shit the way they told us to do now these days with all with all

the social media and all this stuff that we have, you got to be able to relate. And some of these kids ain't – you can't coach them as hard as they used to coach us. Yeah. I'm sorry. Well, and that's why – It happens, I'm sure. That's why Denver is going to be so interesting because, like,

Hackett was one of those guys that never really had any of the experience in front of the room, right? He did, like, red zone in Green Bay, but he wasn't – He was the OC, but he wasn't calling the plays. He wasn't calling plays, yeah. Now they're going from that to Sean Payton. And then he practices. The Sean Payton coach is hard.

Like, you talk to him, he coaches. Well, and he's not about it. Like, we've already heard Sean Payton, hey, we're not doing the outside body guru shit like you were just mentioning with Russ. Like, he's not fucking around with that stuff. It's Sean Payton's way or you're out of here but sean payton he he builds he builds that that that what's the word i'm looking for confidence or trust yeah trust um where he make you want to run through a

wall yeah like if you don't want to do it shame on you yeah we'll get somebody else in here to do it but like when you when you have a guy like that that really cares about the team and the players, it's not hard to get guys to do whatever you want them to do. Because then you get some of those vets that have made plays in the league before you see them. You get them to buy in early. It trickles down to everybody. Well, it's like Pat always says, too.

A guy like Sean Payton, you can do that because he's won a Super Bowl. He has the pedigree of like, oh, okay, what this guy does works, as opposed to a guy like Patricia who, yeah, he was incredibly successful as a D coordinator but never did it as a head coach, and then he goes to Detroit and kind of ruffles everyone's feathers, gets rid of a bunch of vets that are really respected

in the locker room, kind of pisses everybody off, and then they aren't worth a shit, and before you know it, it's like, well, he's never going to get an opportunity to be a head coach again. Yeah, and they know who they are. Like, they're not trying to act like Patricia was trying to act like somebody. Like these other guys, Sean Payton, they know who they are. And that's honestly why, like, Mike McDaniel was so, like, impressive.

Because he knew who he was. He wasn't trying to act like anybody. He was just his kind of, like, goofy, funny. And he hasn't changed a bit. And he hasn't changed once. Yeah, he's still riding with that. And they had a ton of success, not just with Tua, but they also almost got the job done with Skyler Thompson.

I mean, they got into the playoffs with Skyler Thompson. So, I mean, it can be done, but then there are situations where it's like, man, you're kind of taking a risk on someone like a Hackett where he might not have what it takes. And it's not, man, you're kind of taking a risk on someone like a Hackett where he might not have what it takes. It's not a shot on him. A lot of things went wrong in Denver. Maybe the timing's not good. Give him a shot in five years and he'll be better.

Maybe his offense works well, but the players didn't play well. There's a bunch of different things that could have gone wrong, but then a guy like Mike McDaniel who never called plays, who I don't know how many times he was standing in front of the room as the run game coordinator in San Francisco.

Maybe it was a lot, but maybe it wasn't. And then he goes down to Miami. And, I mean, that place flipped immediately. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they became playoffs team right away. I remember the first half of the season. It was like Dolphins were winning the Super Bowl. It started 5-0.

Yeah, they were on fire. He changed everything. And he got guys that wanted to come. Like, they signed. He had Jalen Ramsey now, too. Signed Ramsey. Come on. He changed everything. And he got guys that wanted to come. They signed. He had Jalen Ramsey now, too. Signed Ramsey. Traded for Tyreek Hill. They signed Teron Armstead.

They got all these dudes who all made an immediate impact. Miami should be good. That's their destination. They should be good. That's a destination to go to. They got job last year, too. The quarterback can stay healthy. They should be good.

They didn't do nothing but get better yeah yeah they're they're really good they just they had their streaks for like they started five and oh and then they went oh and three and then they went three and oh like back and forth oh yeah we got we got these we're in offseason ota highlight the best is like this is the best ball i ever I ever seen. Chosen Anderson. This isn't even OTAs. This is just like warm-up. Pat and go. Chosen. Did he like change it? Did he twist it twice?

Did he legally change it? Yeah. He went from Robbie to Robbie to Chosen. That's my favorite part. I try to get Bobby Carpenter to change his name from Bobby, B-O-B-B-Y, to just three O's, B-O-O-O-B-B-Y. Boobie? Boobie.

Boobie almost, yeah. Bobby. Sometimes we add Y's like B-O-B-B-B-Y- Boobie? Boobie almost, yeah. Bobby. Sometimes we add Ys, like B-O-B-B-B-Y-Y-Y. We call him Bobby a lot of times. And we're trying to get him to actually go to the courthouse and change it. He should. Get him liquored up enough, he might. Yeah, it'd be easy.

You mean like Bruce is doing? Yeah. Is Bruce doing that? He's legally changing his name to Bruce. He's changed his last name, too, to B-R-A-H-L-N. Was Brian's a good idea? Or B-R-O-W-N? No.

That's a great idea. Let me know how your parents feel about that, Bruce. Yeah, no, I'm not going to do that. And your lady. You know what? Somebody, I heard there's a strapping lad who might be on the call, on the line somewhere. Do we need to pod the best, the biggest Dolphins? Oh!

Gumpy, we're talking about your Dolphins, pal. Hey, that's good respect for the Finns there, boys. I like that. All positive. Yeah, Super Bowl for sure this year, huh? Isn't that what all of you and the rest of your Dolphins fans are thinking? Yeah, I went to the playoffs last year, Super Bowl or bust, right? Amen.

Is Tua the man? Honestly, do you feel 100% confident that Tua is your franchise quarterback for the next 10 to 12 years? I mean, it's the health, right? I mean, you can't – until he makes it through a full season, you can't say anything about it. Like, the guy was unbelievable last year, and then he got hurt. Like, we need to see him get through a full season.

But until then, who knows what you do. Yeah, at least you know he's good. At least you know he's good. You got to feel good, though. Don't sleep on Chosen Anderson with Chosen. Oh, he's the real deal. He is. He's not making that roster.

Yeah, he'll make it. Who's making it over? Who's making it over? You got Chosen on the back. You, he's the real deal. He is. He's not making that roster. Yeah, he'll make it. Who's making it over? Who's making it over? You don't think he's going to make the roster? Come on, Diggs. What are you talking about? You don't know what you're talking about, Diggs. Come on, Tyreek.

Look, he's going down the line. Don't sleep on Braxton Barrio. Oh, is Braxton still there? I think he's coming. Braxton Barrio. He's coming from the Jets. Braxton is shredded. I saw some stuff. That dude is. Oh, yeah, he's coming to play. Braxton Berrios is up from the Jets. Braxton is shredded. I saw some stuff.

That dude is – Oh, yeah, he's yoked. He is joked. Well, last year we had to put, like, Javon Holland on kick return and punt return, who's, like, our best safety. So now Berrios can be a return guy too. But that's valuable to have him on the roster too, though. Is Chosen going to –

Chosen could run down on kickoff team. I think Chosen will get a little burn at wide receiver. That would be a hell of a four-by-one team. I'm thinking about those. Chosen. Yeah little burn at wide receiver. That would be a hell of a 4x1 team I'm thinking about. Chosen, Waddle, and Mostert. There was rumors that they were shopping him.

He gave him like three years 21 last year and he barely got the ball last year. Man. Mostert, right? This is a talented roster here, man. You're right. Do you feel good about the fact, Gump, that I guess Tua has been taking judo, so he claims he knows how to fall now? Is he going to tuck his chin when he goes down and not hit the back of his head?

Or what do we do? That's huge. Also, don't sleep on Vic Fangio at D.C. too. Because our secondary got hung out to dry last year on those zero blitzes, man. They made our secondary look terrible. I think Vic Fangio's huge. Goop, any progress on, I know you probably, I don't know if you can talk about it publicly,

what's going on? Are you able to come to America anytime soon? I might have had a little bit of a hiccup here. We're working on it. It's getting choppy, yeah. Can't hear you. We're getting there. What if Goop was like in Mitt's room

And all of a sudden he came out Can you imagine the celebration We'd have to cancel the rest of the day show We'd break the glass We'd jump through the walls I was hoping to surprise Pat for his birthday That was the plan all along But it just didn't pan out.

If Goop comes walking out or something, you know, with his little size four and a half Sambas on, and he's walking. Whoa. I got small feet. You got quick feet. Goop, you're a professional soccer player. You have quick feet.

I have small feet as well. What do you want, big, sloppy, slow feet? No, that's a compliment I gave you. Especially not in the Copas, AJ. Have you put on like 30 pounds of muscle too with those Canadian steroids? No, no's a compliment I gave you. Especially not in the cult as AJ. Have you put on like 30 pounds of muscle too with those Canadian steroids? No, no. No.

Oh, yeah. We can't talk about that publicly. No. I don't know. You're good. Goop, thanks, man. Appreciate you dialing in. You're obviously the number one Dolphins fan on the planet,

so I really appreciate it. Cheers, boys. Get Dolphins. That's right. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Go Goopino.

Yeah. Cheers, boys. Get Dolphins. That's right. Let me go. Let me go. I'm a Goopino. Yeah. And they are also in the murderer's row situation with their schedule as well.

Oh. Because we can go through that schedule. And once again. Someone's going to have to win. It's all Tua. Yeah. Someone has to win it. Tua's got to play like 80% of the games in the regular season for them to have a success.

What if everyone's 9-8? It's possible. I mean, yeah. What, two teams if everyone's 9-8? It's possible. Two teams made it a 9-8 last year? The Jags and the Dolphins? Seahawks maybe? They did too, yeah. Do you think they'll take a step back?

It feels like because they overachieved last year, it's easy to take a step back this year. But I'm just saying that because I'm not basing that off of anything. It just feels natural that maybe it would be tough to replicate what they did. But the draft was really as, like, you could say that, I mean, it's only been one season, but all the rookies played really, really well last year.

Geno played great. Both tackles. Is Geno going to put another year? Is he going to get better? Geno played really well. I mean, they got their receivers. Jackson Smith and Jigga. Oh, never mind.

They shouldn't, yeah. They should not take a step back. They have drafted very well. They have a lot of young talent. Yeah, they had two first-rounders who both, you know, hopefully will be good. But you guys know. It's like you can have your best game, and then the next week after you can have your worst game.

Doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's hard. You know how this game is, AJ. Sometimes you just don't have it. Sometimes things just are not working out, or all of a sudden like your team has never really turned the the ball over much and all of a sudden you have like four turnovers in the first half yeah like what do we do was there a player like that comes to mind

with you guys who like actually was like every single game just showed up every single game and played normally pretty well like i mean obviously players have ups and downs most of the guys that play really yeah that's good that's good. You really don't. You might have a play, but it's hard to come in and be like, oh, this guy. It just don't happen. They'll take you out. You can't get the job done.

You ain't going to be in there. There's some great players who sometimes just didn't show up that one day. Oh, yeah, that happens. They don't need a whole day normally in football. It might be a play. Yeah. You might have 67 plays.

You might have 64 good plays. And them three plays where one of them you might got double moved on, which happened to me twice in my career. And then you might have one play where you're missing the tackle and he breaking the score. And you go back in the meeting room, everybody is on your ass because it was your play to make. It's like linemen withholding.

It's like, hey, if you're good the whole entire day, but then if you have a game-winning drive and you're the one that gets a holding penalty on second and ten. Or you give up a sack. Yeah, or you give up a sack. Yeah, exactly. After you've dominated this dude for 72 plays in a row. Yeah, that's the tough thing.

I guess that's why it makes it so intriguing to watch, isn't it? And it goes back to our point about why you're more inclined to watch a football game more so than a basketball or a hockey game. Because basketball, you could not watch the whole entire game and watch the last five minutes, and you watch the whole entire game. It's a game of runs. Basketball doesn't matter. You can be up 25 and you're like, they're going to tie this up.

They're going to come back. You know it always happens. And the football, you know, everywhere have, like, most places that we live in the United States we can play football. Everywhere don't have hockey. I think I was asking you that. Like, how much is hockey? How much does a Paris game cost?

How much does the pass? It's a lot. Like, it's not cheap. No. It's not you that. How much is hockey? How much does a pair of skates cost? How much does the pair eat? It's not cheap. Same way with golf. Golf is an expensive sport, but now with what Tiger have done, it's more to known in our community now. Hockey, I've never

heard of a team in Atlanta, Georgia, that was hockey. They moved the Atlanta team. Oh, what were they? Atlanta Brashers. Yeah. Where'd they go? They went to Nashville.

Really? Why'd they move them? I could be wrong. Just not a big market for hockey down there? I guess not. They had that fucking absolute stud, Danny Healy. Danny Heatley. Of course.

Something like that. Yeah. He was a dog. But yeah, they just moved the team because they weren't doing shit. Who was the guy on, was it last night? I believe he was on the Crocken. And he's a stud, but he just hasn't been able to score goals. Taye Mussolini?

No. Taye Mussolini. Are you kidding me? Yeah, Taye Mussolini only scores goals. Robertson? That's for the Stars. Stars, I mean. And he had some sweet shots.

He didn't end up scoring in the game, though, right? Yeah, he hit a post, I think. Yeah, I was watching him. Zeke told me they became the Winnipeg Jets, I guess. Atlanta did. Oh, God. Thank you, Zeke. Son of a bitch.

But I was watching that guy and seeing everything. The one goal old buddy scored, the rookie, number 20. He's only 20 years old. Rupe? Oh, yeah. Rupe Hintz. The little backhander boom. He banked it off.

Oh, really filthy. Johnston? I don't know his name. I thought it was. That was ridiculous. who was the little backhander boomie, banked it off the goalie. Johnston? I don't know. I failed on it was. That was ridiculous. I texted the group chat. These angles behind the net were awesome, and they were. They seemed to stick with that camera longer.

It was up above the goalie and the net, and you could just see all the action. You could see how congested it is. Yeah, of course, it's easy to sit there and watch hockey, but shoot it, shoot the puck when they're passing it around, and then you see that and you're like, oh, okay, yeah, it's easy to sit there and watch hockey. Shoot it! Shoot the puck! When they're passing it around. And then you see that and you're like, oh, okay, yeah, there's no lanes anywhere to shoot this thing. And that's what they're trying to get some space.

It was cool to see that. I think I've heard the old school hockey people don't like that angle. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's tough to pop pucks when you're on the stars and you got fucking Joe Pavelski out there just putting it through the goalies' five holes. You're like 17 too, right? He's been doing it. Did he play for the Iowa Barnstormers?

No, Tony. He played for the Waterloo Blackhawks, the USHL, Clark Cup champions while he was there. Is USHL like juniors? Juniors, so you're not getting paid. No. So he's like 16 years old or what? I'm not sure.

So usually kids will come to Waterloo and they go to the public high school and then we'll stay with the host family and play for the Waterloo Blackhawks. Did you know about the fact that hockey is crazy? My brother-in-law plays hockey still in the NHL. He left when he was 14. He went to Shattuck with Sidney Crosby and he went to his

academy and played hockey there. A lot of great players always leave. It's hard to get drafted. The Mighty Duck movie is like really for real. Yeah, that is real. A kid from our school who you actually know, I believe. The dancer kid? Played at Ohio State.

From the video you sent me of the one kid who was dancing on the bus. No, RJ. The kid's amazing. RJ. Yeah, I know RJ. And then he had to go. I think he went up to Michigan after his sophomore year. Like, just see you.

And then you. It's crazy. They're like. So my question, like, where do we rank these the junior play is this not college play is this like a travel AAU team like if you're going to play juniors like explain it to me are you in high school yeah you're in high school some of the kids are but I think like some are in like some might be in college too the way it's uh at least at USHL. 16 to 21 years old. Yeah. So I think you probably could be in college and then leave after your sophomore year.

You know that, Pat, you have a host family. So you go live with a family a lot of times. Yeah, it happens in Massachusetts. What do they call them? There's another term other than host family, I know, but it doesn't matter. I have no idea. But, yeah, would you imagine that? I don't know if –

If you get a good family. Yeah, or – I have no idea but yeah would you imagine that I don't know if you get a good family yeah or I played in the big 33 game where I you live with a family in Pennsylvania for a week yeah you lost it was

it was cool it was different it was always different yeah I didn't have a phone nice and I slept like in the attic the family was very very nice

but I just good dinners dinners were great but it was like they would drive like 30 minutes drop you off at 7am for practice and they're like oh we'll pick you up I slept in the attic. The family was very, very nice. Good dinners? Dinners were great. But it was like they would drive like 30 minutes, drop you off at 7 a.m. for practice. And they're like, oh, we'll pick you up at 7. I'm like, man, this is an all-star game. This feels like our camp.

Like my normal camp. You and LeVar made each other in a hole? Me and LeVar. LeVar is a couple years older than me. Okay. But LeVar plays defense, too. Yeah, but you were playing fullback running back. Yeah, you're right. Played a little running back.

How bad did Pennsylvania beat Ohio? I think we won. No, we might have got beat. You know who was the quarterback? Lefty. Tyler Palko. Palko. Yeah, his dad was the coach.

Yeah, they actually beat us, I think. I'm so fucking proud of this guy. Tyler Palko. That was awesome. That dude could pull it. Tyler Palko. He could throw it. Remember him?

Yeah. Eat shit pit. He fucking beat us. He beat us backyard brawl. That's funny. Oh. Fuck, it was freezing. And he jumped over me.

And I've still got the fucking picture now. He was jumping. These four people were jumping. They ended up beating us. And we missed the piece. He was the classic big heart guy. I played with a lot of heart. Yeah, he did.

He played in the league for a while. Yeah. I mean, Tony just mentioned it. I'll never forget after they beat Notre Dame on live TV. I'm so fucking proud of this team. You're right. Was that NBC then? Oh, yeah.

How upset were they? Incredible. Tom Hammond couldn't believe it. His dad's a local high school legend coach. His dad was the head coach of the Pennsylvania Big 33 team, but that's where you go live with them. Yeah, I see that little delivery. Quick release.

Man, he was a good player. Pennsylvania had a ton of studs. That's why Big 33 is awesome. That's a ton of studs. Oh, yeah. I mean, PA, you know. That's why Big 33. Big State. That's why they don't do it anymore, right? They don't play that game?

They don't play it anymore. I don't think they do. There used to be an Ohio-North-South game and then a Big 33 game, Ohio versus Pennsylvania. Now I think it's like Florida-Georgia, right? Doesn't Florida-Georgia have a game? It used to be Florida-Georgia, but I think now everybody's going to these Under Armour.

Yeah, Under Armour. Or the Army. Yeah, US Army. Oh, okay, that's right. Yeah, so I think now everybody's going to this Under Armour. Yeah, Under Armour. Or the Army. Yeah, US Army. Oh, okay, that's right. Yeah, so I guess you wouldn't. Yeah, because I played in both of them after my senior. I graduated high school and went and played. No, you didn't.

I know Bobby was like, why are you playing both? I'm like, I don't know. So I guess they invited more football. Duh. Up North kids go to the Army one, I guess. I think it might be in Detroit or something. Most of the down South kids go to the UA game, I guess. I think it might be in Detroit or something. Most of the down south kids go to the UA

game because it's in Florida. That makes sense. The whole high school, the whole young football now with all the flag football, all this stuff I see, like all these flag tournaments where these guys look like they're professionals and they're like 15. I see the routes they're running, the plays they're

making. Wearing the guardian caps. Yeah, they wear the guardian caps and they're catching touchdowns all over the place and they look like 15 i see the the routes they're running the plays they're making wearing the guardian caps yeah they were the guardian caps and they're catching touchdowns all over the place and they look like man it's a different time i would love to know how many of those commits from those two games transfer now yes now yeah like in like in the last in the last three years how many kids played the under armor or the army All-American game? Probably a bunch. I know the Under Armour game that I coached with Dion, out of that class we coach, I want to say five of those kids made it to the league. Oh, made it to the league. Preston, Stevie Preston was on that team that you played against, too.

Yep, he's pretty fast. I played against him in four years at Michigan, too, obviously. Yeah, there's some good players around there. Bob Sanders. Bobby Sanders. Bob Sanders is one of my favorite players ever to watch i didn't play against him there but yeah that dude was an absolute missile he played against one of the colts what about at iowa maybe he'd been you know unfortunately

because he was so damn powerful he knocked himself out and knocked his shoulders out of the time like he was such a missile he would hurt himself like you con like you tackling aj dylan no i know you can't you tackled A.J. Dillon? Of course he does. He asks me about it all the time. Vince Young? Oh, there's Bob. Beast. Sorry about your knee, Vince. He was the defensive player of the year when they won the Super Bowl, right? Yeah. Yeah.

He's fun to watch. I'm just feeling in there. Good. Gary Brackett in there, right? Shot out of a cannon. Who's 91? I don't know. Good hustle. I think that's Tech Joe. I feel like Buda's the only one who plays like that. Buda Baker?

Yeah. No, I mean, there's, I don't know. The problem now, especially at the safety position, how do you play safety now when you can't hit anybody? Like there's no strike zone. You cannot, like, it's impossible. Yeah, he couldn't have played right now because he played really physical. He'd be bankrupt. They would kick him out of the league.

He's so physical. Granted, this might just be because of the last couple plays, but even watching 91 chase down Vince Young doesn't feel like the ends are even twice as fast as they used to be now, too. Yeah, but you got Freeney. You got to see some more Freeneys.

Oh, yeah. He was running away from Freeney. You got to see some more Freeneys. Oh, yeah. You look at Freeney. Yeah, he was running away from Freeney. Wasn't Booger on this team? Booger had a highlight reel pop up online. I saw him in Tampa. Booger can play. People forget that Booger can play. Dave Gerrard, man,

he was a player. Is that really? Yeah, he did. He had a run. Antonio Brown and Antoine Bethea. I mean, that open field tackle for every show we just watch highlights of Bob Sanders all day I mean how could you not it's pretty intriguing isn't it man I don't know Josh Allen hits home runs as well

dude he he hits real home runs this wasn't like a celebrity he did bomb in those too I know we have hopefully some, some footage of this, but if you watch Josh Allen, this guy is taking BP. Is this in Toronto? Yeah.

And he hit the roof here? Second deck. He hit the second deck? Yeah, I don't think it showed in this clip. This is a different one. These are real home runs. One of his homers was in the second deck. Yeah, he's an athlete.

Freak of nature. Big old dude. Great looking swing. Didn't he say he played travel baseball? Yeah, I mean, just looking at it, if he would have stuck with baseball, let's just say he would have been a very good baseball player. He'd be like a Mike Trout type guy? I don't know.

He's big. He's very big. I'd see a whole lot of guys who are 6'5", 6'6", playing center field. How's he hit the curve? That's the question, isn't it? That's the question. Thank you, Z. Thank you for bringing us back.

I assume if he was on the Yankees, the dugout would tell him if the curve was coming. Oh! You know what, Tony? I appreciate you with that great little transition. So Ty, I'm sure, has an opinion on this. Aaron Judge, right? Aaron Judge is caught peeking. Oh, hey, check out this little screen.

Oh, what am i looking at here so right now he's looking hard right so i thought originally he was looking at the first base coach like the first base coach was signaling something but it looks like he's looking all the way into the dugout with how far right he is looking right ty correct so what do you think he's doing what did he say he was doing and do you believe him uh i do believe him so right before this aaron boone got ejected the yankees manager because a lot of times umpires will call low strikes on Judge because he's so fucking tall. So like, you know, the bottom of

the strike zone will be like during this at bat, he was he was ejected like the previous at bat. No, during this at bat. So and so after he got ejected, guys were still bitching and saying stuff in the dugout. And then postgame, he basically said he was looking over to try to see who was bitching because he was saying like, hey, we got a 6-0 lead.

Like, our pitcher still has to go out there. Let's not fucking piss the umpire off. So our guy's going to get squeezed because the Blue Jays ended up, the Yankees were up 6-0. He went yard. They went up 7-0. But then the Blue Jays came back and scored like four runs in the next inning. So I think he was just saying like, hey, shut up.

Okay. Like, especially while I'm trying to hit, don't need guys yelling and shit like that. runs in the next inning so i think he was just saying like hey shut up okay like especially while i'm trying to hit don't need guys yelling and shit like that um but then yeah everyone's saying he's cheating if you look at the pitch uh guy makes a huge mistake yeah just throws a four miles yeah throws a hanger right down the middle judge hits at 480 feet i mean but the announcers did not help judge's case when they not at all real time oh no what's he looking at oh you never want to accuse a guy before you have all the facts. You never want to accuse a guy.

That's peculiar. You just did when you threw the word accuse in there. And Shulman. Was it Shulman? Yeah, Shulman. Buck Martinez. Yeah. What was he really looking at?

I mean, we know what he was looking at. Look, this isn't the Yankees' first go-around cheating. I'm a Red Sox fan. They're not no spring chickens either. They're cheating too. But if someone, you're trying to tell me, Aaron Judge is like, yeah, I need to make sure I see exactly who's screaming so I can ream them out later

and not fuck over our team. No, he wasn't. He was looking and they were saying like, fucking loan away, loan away, loan away. And then he gets a fucking meatball and he bombs it 500 feet. I also heard that his fifth grade teacher is behind the dugout, and he was looking over there.

Boom. That's what's comedy, too, is we were talking about this. If you're a major league hitter, if you are getting pitches tipped to you, you're not looking sideways into the fucking dugout during a bat to see what the pitch is going to be. He could just turn his head and it wouldn't be. Also, we've heard what teams are doing. They have Apple watches

and shit. They're banging on stuff. Suppositories. They have all that stuff. He's not just going to look directly sideways into the dugout while he's in the box. Now, if he steps out and does that, that's one thing. But also, the Blue Jays catchers tipping pitches. That's how it works in baseball.

It's not illegal, technically, right? No, it's not. If the Blue Jays catchers, if he that's how it works in baseball. It's not illegal technically, right? No, it's not. If the Blue Jays catcher is – if he's not covering up his signals enough and the first base coach is stealing them and signaling judge, that's not illegal. No, it's fair game. That is. That's baseball. That's like a huge advantage. Every team's trying to do it.

I don't know how you make it to the majors as a catcher and don't know how to not have your signings. Yeah, I mean, it's part of the game. It's like day one. You literally just hang your glove off the side of your knee and make sure you're fucking – have your sign. It's part of the game. You literally just hang your glove off the side of your knee and make sure your fucking... Close your legs a little bit. It's part of the game, even if

that's what they were doing. Don't go after the game and be like, I was just making sure. What do you want them to say? We got a good line on their pitches. They were tipping their pitches. You should have said, yeah, I saw a nice pair of cans in the third row behind the dugout he's married he's happily married yeah and it was that might have

been the case that was the case if he is married some little philly in the first row that is the other thing is you you obviously don't say anything because you don't want them to know this is the first of a four-game series a team in your division you want to make sure like hey if he's going to be fucking tipping pitches tomorrow, we don't want them to know that we have a little something on him. People actually think he was cheating here. Oh, yeah. If people aren't being serious about that,

baseball is the dumbest sport on earth. People think that is cheating. He's looking over, side-eyeing nothing. That is the dumbest thing ever. So I was told by an internet report that the Yankees hired an AI and then the AI relayed onto a big

screen in the Yankees dugout that just said fastball. So that's what he was looking at. Now if Aaron Hicks would have hit a home run who is the biggest scrub on the Yankees and who strikes out in every at bat but still somehow is in the lineup every single day. If he would have went yard here, I would have been like, yeah, absolutely. He's got something going on.

He's cheating. Judge broke the American League home run record last year. He's one of the three best players in baseball. If you make a mistake pitching to him, he's fucking 6'7", 280 pounds. He's going to hit it 800 feet, and that's exactly what he did. Yeah, the only reason it's a big deal, I think, is because of the announcers. It's the Yankees, feet. That's exactly what he did. The only reason it's a big deal I think is because of the announcers. It's the Yankees too. That certainly has something to do with it. It wasn't the Yankees

and it was, I'm just saying, the Braves. I love the Braves. I'm not saying anything against the Braves. That's my team. Nobody would be talking about this. It is weird. When you watch it, it's kind of weird. It is peculiar. I want to go back. I would imagine somebody has studied his previous at-bats.

Has he ever done this before? Has he ever looked over like that? Maybe. I don't know. I'm not accusing of him anything. If he is looking, I don't care. I understand it's not cheating in any way, but I just want to know if he has been seen doing this before. I honestly have no idea. We just haven't noticed. This is the first baseball

at-bat I've actually watched the entire baseball season. So maybe he does it every time. Maybe he never does it. But, I mean, either way, you got to fucking. Can't make that mistake. 84 mile an hour hanging right there. Yeah.

That's gone. I mean, Josh Allen's hitting that home run. Yeah, you're probably right. You think he was formulating that in his head? He's like, I'm going to have to tell him. I got to come up with a reason why I was side-eyeing somebody. I wouldn't be surprised if, like like that is legitimately what he's doing. He's the captain now, which,

you know, like for the Yankees, that's a big deal. They haven't had a captain since Jeter. Like he is very kind of like, he's not really in the public eye a bunch. Like he deals with New York media. He's somewhat guarded,

isn't he? Yeah, very much so. Like private, you know, so I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, a guy like Aaron Hicks, who's batting 141,

he's yelling and pissing off the umpire. Judge is probably telling him after the game like, hey, shut the fuck up. Okay, like don't need you saying anything. You're right. That makes sense, honestly. Because I do buy into the fact that it's like, hey, you pissed this guy off enough. Like we know these umpires are badge heavy.

Like you got a guy from your bullpen coming back out there. Like you don't need the umpire squeezing badge heavy like you got a guy from your bullpen coming back out there like you don't need the umpire squeezing him and being up seven nothing in the eighth inning and then letting what happened happen where it's like oh the blue jays played four runs in the bottom of the eighth and now it's a game when this should just be a an easy win yeah i mean yeah we'll see we'll see what happens next game i'm guessing people are gonna be watching next game honestly if you're a hit or two and you are cheating, looking over like one second before the pitch comes is not going to help you.

I know. Even if they tell you exactly what's coming, you still have to hit it. Yeah. Like, that's not what they're talking about, you know, back in the day of the juice era. Yeah, I understand. These guys' legs had vein work. Like, they were so vascular and they were so big,

they looked like freaks but they still had hit the ball i thought it was more impressive that he can do that and come back and just knock a fucking home run it makes you look it makes me like see stars for a second if you look over to the far for a little longer over there oh yeah think about trying to come back and all of a sudden you have a 98 mile an hour high on your chin yeah exactly fun with that or a guy's gonna throw it you know 82 miles an hour right down the middle, and you can just lick your chops and hit it to the fucking moon. Yeah. Are we worried the pitcher is in on it?

No. That guy probably stinks. They're down 6-0 in the eighth inning. They're just, hey, we need you to go out there and eat a couple innings. Do you think every team is actively stealing signs? Yes. Are we still doing all of that? I would if I was playing. It's part of

it, I guess. It's part of the game. Asking a question about a tackle. Is he lighting on his feet? You're getting the run. We do. Backup quarterback's going to sit and he's going to watch what they're signaling in and stuff. He can get the radio into the quarterback before the 15 seconds cuts off in his speaker.

Stuff like that. It's all gamesmanship. When everyone is as good as these guys are, you're taking every little advantage you can get. Yeah, and, Pac, I don't know if you ever did this. We would get a read on dudes on their defense when the DBs sometimes don't – the corners wouldn't huddle. They stay outside, and they just get a little signal from the DB coach. He'll give them the coverage or the call.

Well, guess what? The other sidelines watching that too. Did you ever have that? Yeah, I had that. I'll never forget this play. We was playing against Fisher when he was down in Tennessee. We played him in Cincinnati, and they had a sluggo route, and the dude was – we had seen it earlier that week,

and it was a hack shake or something like this, and I had told George, I'm like, yo, George, whenever I get this hack shake, it's a double move. I'm going to act like I'm jumping it. But you got to get your ass over there right now and show a shit stink. He do it. Here comes the double move. I act like I'm jumping it. George picks it off.

But we are watching everything when it comes to that. If you can get anything, like, for instance, AB used to always fuck with his gloves. Yeah, he did all the time. I'm like, oh, it's passed. Here we go. Yeah. We're always trying to steal something. Quarterbacks, the quarterback's feet,

sometimes the quarterback's like he'll have one foot back if it's a pass play and they'll have his feet even on a run play if it's a shotgun. Obviously, the depth of a quarterback, especially in the gun, like if he's even, if he's one yard behind, if he's in front, obviously it's a pass because he's got to get up there in the line to block or get out for a pass. So, yeah, all those little things that you shouldn't – you need to have the attention to detail where you're not giving those up.

You don't present those. You've got to self-scout, so you're not doing that. Well, and a lot of the legal shit the Patriots did wasn't against the rules per se, but they had to put the rules in after they were called. Other than like Spygate, what else would they – what happened? Spygate's really the biggest one, to be completely honest with you. So they were filming a walkthrough.

Well, there was the Bengals thing a couple years ago. They watched us from the top of the bridge. Remember that? I don't know if you was there that year. I don't think so. But, yeah, like we seen them watching us from the bridge. We literally had to stop practice and went inside the stadium. that like we we seen them oh because watching us the practice field there yeah we literally the highways had to stop practice went inside the stadium it was crazy like there's so many

sparrows that come back uh it's supposed to be bill spawning late in the week before it well i mean that's still people still say that shit today like who i forget pat has mentioned a couple times people in the colts like if there's like a plane or something flying over above. Oh, yeah. Bill Belichick's watching this. All the coaches are watching. Yeah, but the thing is, training camp, a lot of your practices in training camp are open to the public,

so there's obviously scouts and people from other teams in the crowd watching, and depending on what you do, install all your stuff. But it is kind of different during the week. It's different. Oh, yeah, it's definitely a different game week. But if you want to get a good feel on a team, I would definitely send – if I was a coach or I had scouts, I'm sending people to Belichick. I'm sending people to New England to see, hey, not only, like,

what are they doing, but how are they going about it? And then I'm going to try to mimic a lot of what they do. Yeah, and all that stuff, I assume. That's the train track right there, right? Yep, right there, top up there. Yeah, there's plenty of – well, there's every single building. I remember we'd be sitting there practicing. Matt Burke, the linebacker coach at the time, he's the man.

We'd be looking up. He lived in one of the buildings. He's like, man, all these people can easily be filming our whole practice. There's all these buildings. Cowboys have office buildings around their entire practice. That's unheard of. I can't believe that. Yeah, that's just dumb.

How much do you guys show, though? Like are you not showing anything in the preseason games? No. Because, like, what's the difference between, like, a practice and a preseason game during training camp? Preseason game, you ain't going to get nothing but a base coverage. And that's the same with, like, training camp too, right? No, training camp, you're going to work on, like,

so how training camp go, like, so first day we're going to work on base. It might be cover three, all right? Then after cover three, you do cover four one day, cover two one day. Then after that, you go put in the blitzes. So like a man-free, blase, blase, all-out blitz. So you'll work on all the all-out blitzes that day. So you can kind of see what people are doing depending on when you're there. But you will have to be there every day to figure out. It'd be so much volume because you're installing your whole

playbook offensively and defensively. Yeah, you can get a look at it, but you can also get a look at that on the film. Every team runs the same concepts. Yeah, they don't really, but yeah, especially defensively, it seems to be very different. I mean, similar route combinations, but everything

looks different, how they get to it and how they present it. That's what offense is. You've got to make it look complex with it actually being simple. Well, it's not like anyone can just walk in with a camera. You have to be credentialed, I assume. Obviously, your phone has it, but if you see some guy that doesn't look like some normal guy who's just filming the entire practice, are you allowed to go up?

In training camp, yeah, they could. If you're walking there with a camera you got to be media day yeah exactly that's what i mean they don't even let media film a lot they would only let media during the season they film their one individual period yeah so like doing practice i mean doing the season part when you first go into practice they can be in there like when we're stretching and stuff and like the first individual period and then they got to get out, so media doesn't even get to stay around to see anything. But you could do it, but it's like how do you decipher all the information?

Say you had somebody film every practice the Patriots had in training camp. Okay, cool. Now I got to decipher all that footage and all the jumbled up with all – especially at practice with the different groups. You got ones and twos and threes and different people. Any teams could be messing with you too. Yeah, like that Mike Leach thing. When Mike Leach was coaching,

there was some story about how they dropped a fake playbook. Yeah, against Oklahoma. Yeah, against Oklahoma at the opponents in Oklahoma Stadium. A player obviously picked it up. They took it to the coach. The coach was like, perfect, we have their game plan. We're going to kill this team. But it was just a fake.

It was just a fake playbook. Mike McDaniel too too, at Cincinnati. And the Dolphins were practicing there. Oh, yeah. And he had like 12 guys. They had like 12 guys on the field and all that. McDaniel did? Yeah, because they thought people were watching the Dolphins practice.

Oh, that's right. Because of Hurricane Ian. Oh, yeah. That was big news. And then we realized, oh, no, they were messing with them. Yeah. Yeah. People accuse, coaches accuse people of spying on them all the time.

All the time All the time Okay Yes So they had to put Because they were filming from the sidelines No They were filming from up top Which they said it's okay though

Yes but that's what the rule It wasn't okay It just wasn't in the rules Oh okay So they had to So they had some guy Just sitting there filming the signals, right? That's what Spike A was?

Mm-hmm. Bingo. Which, yeah, if you can decipher that and figure out your signals, yeah. It's good. But also, credit to them for pushing the button. I don't think that's the only team that's done that in the past. That's just the first team that was really good at doing it and got caught. And could probably decipher it better than most.

Just because Belichick, he's a historian of the game like Lombardi has told us about. You got Ernie. Yeah, Ernie, exactly. So it was very set up perfectly for New England. And, I mean, some coaches even said, I think it was Mike Shanahan who came out and he was like, fuck, I wish I thought of it before he did because that's what we would have done because it wasn't against the rules. Yeah, I mean.

And then that next year they went 18-1. With this and the whole Deflategate situation, people are always going to be on that for the Patriots. Yeah, unfortunately, Deflategate, actually, there's been articles that have come out already that have said it was a complete witch hunt. It was stupid. I don't care if he takes it or not.

I don't care. Bro, we played them the week after that. They beat our ass to the wheels, fella, In Foxborough. I was like, God, damn, why we got to play Brady right after this. Oh, my God. The Spygate? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They didn't lose a game that season. Tough time to catch the Patriots, huh?

After a bad loss or something like that. That's why that stuff, a lot of times as a Patriots fan, you're going to hear people shit on it, and that doesn't matter. In the back of your mind, you know it's going to help you. Because we beat the Seahawks two weeks after the deflate gate against the Colts.

And then he had that one season, nothing. And then 2016, he got suspended for the first four games. And I was like, okay. So Brady's going to come back. That's nuts that he got suspended four games for it. Two years later. It was so late. And then I remember when that all played out, I couldn't believe it. I really couldn't.

Yeah, having to turn his phone over and everything. Yeah, he did. Oh, my gosh. All of that stuff happened. One of the ball boys or something took it, didn't he? What, the phone? In the bathroom. The ball thing.

He would take it to the bathroom and do stuff with it. It was a weird story that came out. Do stuff with it. Yeah, again, this is what the article came out after. Like, hey, no ball that went into the game. If it just was sitting out in the cold that night, the PSI was going down. Either way, if he wants to take all the air out of the ball, I don't care. During the break, there was some breaking news.

Diggs, I think you'll be a good one to explain this. This is kind of a new age situation that is breaking news because it has to do with Twitter and the internet. I know with your young vibes, can you please tell the people what happened? Super young vibes. It looks, it appears as if, let me check, the Minnesota Vikings. Whoa. Now, I haven't been to their actual page yet, but this is a screenshot.

We're doing it in McOchner, right? By Boner Garage? He didn't like... Nope. This is not per Boner Garage. This is actual Minnesota Vikings Twitter. Let me see if they're actual Twitter. Oh, they did. Yeah, and they got some studs up there, AJ. You see who's in that top banner? Yeah. From right to left. Who's that?

Kirk Cousins. Yeah. TJ Hawkinson. That's right. Justin Jefferson. Oh, and Dalvin. No, that's not Dalvin. That's Al Madison. They replaced him with one-time backup running back and Dalvin. No, that's not Dalvin. Whoa. That's Al Madison. They replaced him with one-time backup running back to Dalvin Cook. Okay. Alexander Madison.

Was the old header, was that exactly where Dalvin was too, right in that spot? That was the internet. Yeah, I think it was. It was. Was it? Yeah. I'm going to have to watch this Netflix show. You guys keep doing this guy's voice. What does this mean? What. Was it? Yeah. I'm going to have to watch this Netflix show. What does this mean?

What does this mean? This is so stupid that we talk about Twitter things like this, but it's actually real. It's very real. When someone takes the ad of their profile, when they change it, it doesn't mean something is definitely happening, but it means they're pissed. Someone's frustrated. And this seems like Dalvin Cook's

not going to be on the team anymore. Oh, no, it means something. Tom Diggs right by this one. It means something. This ain't no, you don't just change your Twitter head. You know, Twitter head means something. Especially the team's official account. Oh, yeah. GM calls it, hey, change the Twitter head.

He's gone. Fuck, for real. Yeah, I don't know how that whole process plays out. I don't know. I think it's possible. I mean, why not? I know something we can ask. This guy's hanging out waiting for us, guys, just listening to us, watching us.

No way. Just talk about this. Let's let him join the jocularity, obviously. This guy comes on the show all the time. Love this dude. D-Butts, just come on here now. Pod D-Butts up right now. D-Butts!

What's up, fellas? What's up? Hey, Jake. What's up, D-Butt? We got so many questions for you d but there's a lot of things going on we just learned of this dalvin cook situation what does this mean is he gone is he is there another veteran free agent running back on the market i don't know if they'll be looking to veteran route but it's been kind of some rumbling since this offseason started about

uh the vikings potentially moving on from dalvin cook i think he's a great weapon, you know, in the run game, in the pass game. But this is definitely something. This is – obviously it's new now with social media, Twitter, IG, whatever. But even when we were playing, like, you knew when certain things changed or certain people weren't on certain promos that, you know, if it was a Green Bay defense, like, A.J. Hawkins was going to be somewhere in that header or on that brochure, on that program. And if you're not, that's some writing on the wall.

So this ain't nothing new, really. But, you know, it'll be interesting to see which direction they go. Also, D-Bo, we talked about this earlier, actually, with Michael Lombardi. Do you see Devontae in the article that they wrote where he is quoted many times and it sounds like he is not real happy with the direction that this offense is going in Las Vegas with the Raiders, especially it's only May 16th. So I'm wondering how much they have installed, but what's going on here? This is, this is big. You don't, you don't see, especially Devontae.

I mean, it's kind of out of character, you know, for him, but a player of his caliber, the money that he's making on that roster, he obviously has the most leverage, the biggest voice that can actually get things going in a certain direction. This is what he's doing. It's May. Maybe this is the best time to ruffle these feathers

because by the time training camps get here, this won't be a story anymore, obviously. He let his voice be heard and known from his head coach, who obviously has his hands all over the offense, to the GM, to the ownership. Everybody hears this when it's a $30 million receiver. I think, what, second, third year, second year of his contract?

Yeah. Yeah, you gave up a ton for him, obviously. So, obviously, some things have changed, but you got Josh Jacobs back, who you're going to have for another year, who was one of the top running backs in the league last year. So, it'll be interesting to see how McDaniels handles this, especially coming from that New England tree. D-Bud, I know you're a huge hockey guy.

Is your squad still rolling? I see Pac over there. Is that a stoner jersey? Hell yeah. It was stoner or best friend. They're boys. Hey, that shit clean, man. Big hockey guy, though.

Huge hockey show. Yes, sir. It is a hockey show. I didn't hear your question, AJ. Is your squad still alive? Come on, A. What kind of question is that? I'm just asking a question.

We're in the Final Four, man. I'm asking for the people that don't know, D-Butt, the people that may not know your squad. Yes, yes. It's always time to hunt. We could still be the favorites to win it all, but obviously we came in this thing as a super low seed, upset the great Boston

Bruins, wiped the floor with the Leafs, and now we're up here with Carolina, so it should be another good series. It's hockey playoffs, man. I can watch playoffs in any sport, but hockey, this shit is intense. I've been loving it, especially this offseason. This postseason,

I'm sorry. Is there a lot of go-cats going on in Southern Florida right now? Hey. Or is there more go-heat? Hey, it's even right now. Heat, you know, Heat has more of a, I would say, a consistent fan base. Obviously, you know, you're in south Florida, so it's not going to be a hotbed for hockey.

But the Panthers, they get good support. And it's not at Miami. A lot of people say, hey, those Miami sports, it's in Sunrise, kind of like Broward County, close enough to Miami, though. But we're rooting for everybody. It's been a good year to be a fan in South Florida. We've got FAU and UM in the Final Four. Obviously, the Heat doing their thing. The Panthers doing their thing.

So, obviously, we're looking forward to the Dolphins season as well. So, vibes are hot out here. Carmen? Yeah, Tony, also just to add on there. If Matthew Kachuk was walking down the street, nobody would know who the fuck he was. But that's just – That's also not how you pronounce it.

No, no. That's how you pronounce it. Tachuk is not how you pronounce it. Oh, really? Yes, I know. Did you see him in that video? What video? Jason Tatum?

Well, him and Jason Tatum actually went to high school together. Yes, they did. What? Yeah, they went to Chaminade together. Like Stafford and St. Louis. Like Stafford and Kershaw, yeah. But no, D-Butt, speaking of Jason Tatum, you had a prediction on the internet. You say it didn't matter who won, Celtics or Sixers.

It was always going to be the Heat and Six. Now, there are percentages that have come out, which I don't agree with. I think it's absolute bullshit. No one gives any credit, and Jimmy Butler in the playoffs is a much different animal. So that whole 97-3 shit, no chance that is

true. It is absolutely ridiculous. With that being said, do you still believe that the Heat will win in six games? And do you think that maybe they steal one this week in Boston game one or game two? Oh, yeah. You can't go down 0-2. Got to steal one in the garden. And this is something that's been circled. Jimmy said it last year in the exit press conference. We're going to be right back in this position. Everybody knows this as football players.

When you have a team or you have a squad or you have a coach, you have a core, sometimes you lose a game. Maybe it's late in the season. Maybe it's in the playoffs. And you're like, hey, we're going to be right back in this position next year. We got to get over that hump. And I think that's the position to heat her in. And I'm fully confident in that squad.

A bunch of dogs, a bunch of undrafted guys. You mentioned it. Spoh doesn't get enough credit. Already top five in playoff victories all time. And as long as Jimmy Butler's out there, Bam has been playing his ass off as well, both in the court. A lot of guys

with not much notoriety. Strews, Martin, all these guys were playing big, important minutes. Kyle Lowry even stepping up playing some good ball. So I'm fully confident in my heat. Now, obviously the Celtics, super, super talented team. I think we got the coaching edge, though. Maybe if Udoka's there, it's a different series, but

I think we get them. It's kind of like Tatum coming off that 50 point unbelievable performance, just like Steph did coming into the Lakers series. It's going to be kind of similar, but I still got my heat in six, but obviously, I always respect and love the battles between us and Boston.

And by you not agreeing with that 97-3, you sound a little scared, too. So I feel real good. I'm not scared. I respect what the Miami Heat are. And you couldn't be more wrong about Joe Mazzullo, too, because if M.A. Udoka was going down to Miami every other week, he'd be staring at boobs, okay? He wouldn't be focused on basketball.

Allegedly. Allegedly. Maybe respect Joe Mazzullo a little more. Because that might come back and bite you in the ass. It might. That's sports, man. I don't mind being on freezing cold takes. I don't give a fuck. People wrong on TV every day. Pac's got something for you.

D-Boy, you see Tua Tagliavioga today? Tua Tagliavioga? However you said it. That name I just said. Can you do one more, Pac, please? Just for the show. Tua Tagliaviola. There we go.

Nailed it. Okay, that was good. I didn't get the what? The throw? Yeah, did you see him out there today? Beautiful. This is a two-part question. Did you see the throw today?

And do you think, Robbie, I think the chosen one will make the team? Like Spiral. Tone Diggs said he won't even make the team. I truly think that he will make the team. And that's a hell of a four-by-one team. What do you think? Hey, hell of a four-by-one team. I see a lot of people put the Bengals.

I know they're your Bengals as well. You'll probably say that's the best wide receiver group in the league. But if you look at wide receiver groups, as DBs, I think we'll get a little less sleep going against these Ferrari dudes out here. the best wide receiver group in the league. But if you look at wide receiver groups, as DBs, I think we'll get a little less sleep going against these Ferrari dudes out here. Ty Hill, obviously Jalen Waddell, Chosen Anderson, Cedric Wilson, like all these guys can fly. Now it's going to be about the quarterback.

Can Tua stay healthy? You know, Tua, if you watch him, we watch him play. He's just one of those quarterbacks who's always falling weird. He's always getting tackled weird. I hope he gets down more, throws the ball away more. But if he can stay healthy, I'm going to put the good energy, good vibes out there and say that he does, and he's going to play this whole season.

I think we make a deep postseason run. I think we have the best, most explosive wide receiver room in the league. So I'm excited for year two. Obviously, the offensive line will have to hold up as well. They built a little more there in those regards. But Mike McDaniels, Tua, and the Cheetah, Waddle, all those guys, another year at it, I feel real good about my squad down here, man.

Tua, can you say his name again one more time? Yeah, one more. Tua Ty Viola. Yep. Nailed it. Boom. That's it. On you, Ty.

D-Buck, going to the Western Conference Finals, who do you like tonight? And do you think the Heat, if you think the Heat are moving on, do you think they can beat the Lakers or the Nuggets? You know what? In the Final Four, honestly, I think, especially this year, I think anybody can win it. I think the Heat, they're still like plus 1,400 or something crazy like that.

So I know it's scary. Once again, you look at the makeup of the rosters, not a lot of top picks, not a lot of stars, so maybe that's why. But, yeah, I think the Heat can go and beat the Lakers. Now, talking about this Western Conference Finals matchup, hey, LeBron, I don't know how you guys feel, but watching him this year, and Mick can probably speak on this, but I feel like BronBron has kind of been

pacing himself. He's fucking killing it, B-Bonds. So good. LeBron's been pacing himself. Like every series, I feel like he's still the best player on the team. AD's going to have his two games every series where he's the best player on the planet. But LeBron's been consistent.

He kind of puts his foot on the gas when it's time to close out a series. The other guys around him have been stepping up. Austin Reeves, Lonnie Walker when he needs to. All these guys. Dennis Schroeder. Mike makes some appearances. Schroeder. Schroeder been doing his things as well. But with all that being said,

I like the Nuggets in game one. What? Unbelievable. Joker's un-fucking-believable. He's a bully in the paint. He always makes the right play. You want to put something on that? I'm going to bet on the first game.

What do you want to bet? Let's do something. Let's do something. We can talk off air. We'll talk off air. We got to bet. But, yeah, I like Joker and the Nuggets tonight. I think for them to win this series, though, for them to beat the Lakers,

they're going to need a three-headed monster. That's him, Murray. And I think Michael Porter Jr. is going to have to have some big scoring games for the Nuggets to actually win this series. Is it going to go 70? You think it's going to go 70? Hold on. Did you just say you have the Nuggets winning it, right?

I got the Nuggets in game one. Okay. All right. So how many games do you think the series go? I think this is a six or seven game series. I don't think the Nuggets have been getting the respect. And they play late a lot. You know, they don't play. It's not a bunch of motherfuckers jumping up and dunking,

shooting step-back threes. They play good basketball on both ends of the course. I think they got a good coach. Yeah, I think it goes six or seven for sure. It's not like a sweep or a 4-1 series either way, in my opinion. I like that. Okay. D-Bite.

Okay. Pace it out. Pace yourself. You know I have the Mercedes hoodie. You know I'm a Sir Lewis Hamilton guy, okay? He's fucking gone too far, okay? Yes, he has. TC has shown some interest in Shakira. He sent her flowers.

And then there's videos of her and Sir Lewis Hamilton hanging out after. Can you check your fucking boyfriend, please? And I saw Monica's coming up. Is that like the creme de la creme that you want to go to as Monica? Ooh, no. I wouldn't say that. I think that is the creme de la creme.

People do love that place, that track. Obviously, you know, you got the yachts and it's it's super bougie but no i because i don't like the track it's not a lot it's a tough track to pass other cars on it so i'm not a big fan of that i would go out to um the italian grand prix which is uh which is this weekend actually out there in italy we would love that one that makes silverstone out there in the uk i would would love that one. Stop with Italy. Sao Paulo. Antonio.

Sao Paulo. And then the one down there in Brazil. What is it, Sao Paulo? Yep. There we go, right there. I would love to go to those outside of the American races, obviously. Vegas is going to be unbelievable in November, I think. And then, obviously, they got one in Austin that they do every year as well. Please don't avoid this. Please don't

avoid it. But I should have texted or I should have DM'd or something out to Sir Lewis Hamilton. He was the courtside of one of these games, too. Tell him to stay away from the job. Watch his back. Shakira, hey. Hey, he was just down here in Miami. I know. That's where this all

that's where this menage a trois. Here we go, D-Butt. Now we can see this Tom Cruise and Shakira just chopping it up. Yeah, I didn't see this either. Is that her kid? I don't know. Shakira Shakira. Did you say the Grand Prix?

That was Miami, yeah. Miami, you were probably in that room. Kid looks like Miami. No, I didn't even know that room existed. My tax bracket right there. Did you see who all is down there? It seems like just like a celebrity playground. And Brad Pitt, I know he's going to start driving

and they're filming him for a movie. What's it like down there? I mean, Miami's been on a little run, honestly. UFC, a lot of things have just been, the vibe's been high down here in Miami. It's been booming since, especially 2020. 2020 brought a lot of businesses, a lot of people, a lot of things down here that weren't necessarily here before. So Miami's booming.

But as far as the Grand Prix, I mean, everybody was there. And it's not only race fans. It's also a lot of people who just want to be, you know, probably much like the Derby. Some people care less about horse racing, but just want to be out there amongst the people. So the race was unbelievable the vibes were dope um and to that movie i actually had a little um sneak a little sit in on a fireside chat wow about the movie you know obviously it was the same same director same uh producer from top gun maverick to your point it will be on the grid and yep it will be on the same track It will be on the same track, driving.

What's the guy's name? Ty, I know you know their name. Joseph Kaczynski. Yeah, he's directing it. Kaczynski? The Ted's brother. Not Richard Kaczynski. He's the Iceman. He was.

It's going to be dope, man. He'll be the star. Idris will be there. Ed Kaczynski. No, not Idris El man. The Iceman from Harvard. Brad Pitt, he'll be the star. Idris will be there. Ed Kazansky. I forget. Oh, Idris Elba's in it? No, not Idris Elba. Damson Idris, the star in Snowfall. Idris is even sweet. Wake up.

It's going to be a dope movie. They're actually going to be on the track. Brad Pitt's actually going to be driving the car. Like with other drivers? He's actually built the car. With other professional drivers? Who are going to be the other drivers on the course? He's actually built the car.

With other professional drivers? Who are going to be the other drivers on the course? So the scenes from the movie will be the actual other cars, the actual other teams. So Max will be out there. Lewis will be out there. Are these just like exhibition laps? Or what is it? What are we doing?

Yeah, kind of like throughout the practice weekend, throughout the laps. Yep, we're on the same track. The cameras, you know, the camera angles were a big part of why, you know, Maverick, the top gun was so dope. And he basically showed the different cameras. I actually sent some pictures, so at some point you guys can pop it up there later down the line.

But it's going to be a super, I think it's going to be a super dope movie whether you're into racing or not. Did you take this picture? Can you see this picture of Brad Pitt? Did you do this from your phone? Canadian Tuxedo. No, this is not this is not my phone it's from some race last year oh yeah brad pitt has been doing it it's sir lewis hamilton coolest guy ever to make sure the guy on the left is authentic i like that that's smart you need but how fast are these cars going i know uh the indie cars

they only get up they got like all of them buying the same cars. They're going like 1,800, 200 miles per hour. How fast are these cars going? I think the Indy cars actually go faster. So, yeah, Indy's like – This is street racing, right? So you can't really – Yes.

I just looked it up. Indy and F1 are very similar. They're both like 230 top speed. They go 230 to F1, but they're making too many turns, I feel like. Are they? Yeah. Probably lighter cars. You get some straightaways.

You get some DRS AJ, which is, I think, drag resistance system. Of course. That wing down. You pick up an extra eight kilometers an hour, whatever it is. And that's what I've seen. The fastest I've seen is probably around like 215-ish. I haven't seen anybody get up to 230 yet, but around 215-ish. And I think IndyCars, I think I've seen them like 220.

But like you said, AJ, it's a lot more. You know, you got some hairpin turns. You got a lot more in and out weaving, wheel-to-wheel racing. But I actually got an invite from NASCAR to get out there and come to some of their Cup Series. Go. So I definitely go. Tell it there you go. I got to go.

I got to go. We got an invite from a driver, too, if we want to go to the pits when they're here. Really? The Brickyard. Georgia or Indy. Dang, D, but I love how deep into this racing world you have already become. What is this, the last year or so? I know you watched the Netflix series, and that kind of sparked your interest,

didn't it? Yeah, so actually I watched the race. Fastest lap that weekend. I don't know if this is a video. You can see the other kid on the other sim over there. But he was literally on that thing for like an hour straight. What a hog. What a mark.

See, there he is back there. Come on, kid. What is he doing? What is he doing? That's not going to get it, dog. Some spoiled kid. Well, you're going to be in a real car soon, D-Bud. They're going to put you in a real car.

Or have you driven a real car yet on the track? I might do a hot lap at some point, AJ. I might do it. It's definitely on my bucket list. But, yeah, last year I just saw a race. I saw like a lead up to a race on ESPN for probably like an hour and a half and just kind of got a little more behind the scenes of the drivers, the teams, et cetera, and then actually watched the race.

And then after that I went to watch the Drop to Survive series. And then that kind of just – I'm one of those people, especially, you know, since being done with football, like I go down rabbit holes. I just get in the shit. Well, yeah, you're a scratch ball for now after playing for three months. Hey, hey. Yeah, I see that.

I see you. It looks – first off, the weather looks beautiful. It looks nice. My black ass got a 10, so you know I'm out there putting it. But, yeah, the golf has been – I'm 10 toes down. What are you shooting? Yeah, I've been fully – ooh. What's your range?

Just say, like, a range of what you can't shoot. I honestly couldn't even give you a real range. The best I've ever done was 89. Oh, jeez, you could play. I was on top of the world. David. Literally the next day I went out there and I was probably like 105

that don't happen that's golf but I will tell you this I've been keeping Foxy updated because since I've been playing since I played with Foxy and Indy learned a lot and keeping him updated with my swing and my progress, today was my second day

walking the course and I tell you what night and Today was my second day walking the course. And I tell you what, night and day for me. Like walking the course, I'm a 10 times better player, which ain't much. That's a thing in golf. I was saying that to D, but it's a thing in golf. It makes no sense. I don't know what it is, but you play better when you walk.

Every golfer that plays a lot has known that. So I'm glad that you're experiencing this now, D, but you're really like all the way in on this. Hey, I'm balling. Once I got out there, I'm seeing, you know, 70-year-olds and 80-year-olds just out there either playing or walking. I'm like, damn, like, okay, if I get good now, this is something I can be, you know, I can do for the next few decades. Do it with your kids.

Do it with your parents. You obviously meet great people out there. So I'm glad I'm getting into it. All my brothers are getting into it as well. I've been enjoying it. Nobody's getting an F1 with me, though. I'm still buying stuff. Nobody's buying it.

Ty Schmidt, what do you have? Speaking of F1 this weekend, D, I'm considering watching it. Give me a nice little appetizer for what to expect, or is it just the same old, oh, fucking Verstappen's going to win, and none of these other fucking guys who anyone's ever heard of are

going to do anything. It's the Max Verstappen show. Is his car faster than everybody else, or what? What's going on? The Red Bull cars. Yes, they built an absolute rocket ship. The engineers are unbelievable. They did breach the cost cap a couple years ago, or yeah, a couple years ago.

Spending more than a salary cap. People will call them cheaters, but I think they just built a great car, got great drivers as well. It's America. You're trying to make sports a new sport, and it's not new. It's an old sport, obviously. When you're trying to make something more popular here, especially, we want the fucking winners

and losers. Who will win it? Every time I tune in, I know the fucking Lakers are going to win the game or he's gonna win the game it's not entertaining especially if you're getting into the sport so that's the case right now with red bull they are most likely going to win the race unless they fucking crash or have some type of failure but after them it's like three teams ferrari's mercedes is aston martin and aston martin's kind of been on the top of that league but you it's still like, you know, the best of the rest battles. You got your midfield battles, and then you got your, you know, your lowest. So it's battles all up and down the grid.

So if you're looking, if you're tuning in to try to get it to see who's going to actually win the race, it's not going to be exciting, especially this year with F1. But Mercedes are bringing big upgrades this weekend. So we'll see if Sir Lewis Hamilton and George Russell can make something shake out there. Fernando Alonso went to Aston Martin. And obviously, you guys don't know what the fuck these guys are. But Fernando Alonso has been driving for a long, long time. He moved teams.

And he's been a dog this entire year with Aston Martin. So it is still some entertainment. This one will be a wet race, Ty. Oh,ston Martin. So it is still some entertainment. This one will be a wet race, Ty. Oh, I love that. It'll be some rain. Wet track. Like we know for sure. Yeah, it's kind of like football.

Like when it's shitty weather games. Got to get the rain tires on, right? Yeah, get the slick off and put the rain tires on. Yeah. That's big for Alonzo. D-Butt, are they thinking about using maybe like NOS in any of the cars? Seven Fast, Seven Furious. Yeah, exactly.

Bingo, you just nailed it. Seven Fast, Seven Furious. And then is there any thought to maybe throw Vin Diesel in one of these cars? Let's see what he can do on the track. Fast X comes out this week. Boom, promoted. No helmet either. With his head.

His head's too hard. He doesn't need a helmet. And he was out there in the Miami Grand Prix, too. He was out there making waves. But, no, I don't think any Nas is coming to the track, unfortunately. Bullshit. D-Bo, what's the rest of the day look like? You playing golf today or do you already play?

I play this morning. I got a suite. When I drop my kids off at school, my middle school and high school, they both live really... I mean, they both go to school right near the golf course, so I drop them off, either go play or hit the ring. You played 9 or 18?

What's that? You played 9 or 18? Played 18. So I walked 9 last night, like around sundown, so it wasn't too hot, and then I actually started off in the cart with a guy three holes in i couldn't hit the fucking ball i said hey i gotta get out and walk we were playing another guy who was walking and pushing so the guy looked at me crazy but i'm

like yeah i gotta switch it up and uh played much much better for those last you know 15 holes um the rest of the day uh getting the kids i got a rec league a men's league game tonight and i was watching basketball. You're going to dominate? I love watching your clips of you just dunking on dudes, hitting step-back threes on these kids at wherever you're playing. You seem to play at a lot of different venues, too. You got to

keep those competitive juices flowing. At least I got to. Well, you got those. Your joints look like they feel good, too. You got some spring in your step. Yeah. I feel good. I was blessed. I made a lot of business decisions, but I was blessed. I didn't have a bunch of major surgeries, you know, finger, arm, wrist.

You just knock yourself out 10 or 12 times a year. Yeah. I had a couple little night, night, night, night, night. But, yeah, I'm pretty good, man. My body feels good. 37, turned 37 in March. But the body feels really, really good, actually. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, good, man. Body feels good. 37, turned 37 in March. But the body feels really, really good, actually. I'm not going to lie.

Yeah, good for you. Speak for yourself. Do one of these kids get pissed, like, hey, D-Bud takes all the fucking shots? Or do they just understand, like, this guy's way better than us, so just let him shoot? So it depends. I play, you know, it depends. First of all, if you're on my team, you know I'm going to take the shots.

I got the green light, all right? What happens is a lot of times I bring the ball up, and I use it. In transition, I'm like Joker. I'm like LeBron. I'm Kevin Love. I'm pushing in transition. You score 50 this game? I'm giving it up.

If the ball comes back to me, Connor, I'm shooting the ball. And everybody knows that. So if I push it, and it comes back to me, Connor, I'm shooting the ball. Everybody knows that. So if I push it and it comes back to me, I'm shooting. Are these the local kids at the YMCA? Hey, Pac-Man, you get your ass out there, you're going to get fried the same way. Oh, oh, go back to the video. Look at this kid in the blue. He never played any defense.

Look at this guy. Not a lot of assists out there. Are you playing against – look at him. Pack is so mad. He got two left feet. Pack is mad because kids are closing out hard now. Hey, they got their hands up. I would foul the shit out of you if you was doing that to me.

Bro, you're giving them like 60 points. At some point, they got to foul your ass. I get fouled, but people get frustrated because they foul me hard and then I don't call foul. Like, hey, you got that. Like, you know, hit you. I'm like, nah foul me hard and then I don't call foul. Like, hey, you got that. Like, you know, hit you. I'm like, nah, I'm good.

I should have made that. You got that kind of mind. That was a good shot right there, boy. Hey, don't let Gary Vee get down there. You know he's not scared to foul you. Yeah, he'll fuck your shit up. See, I'm good with you fouling. Just don't hit me in the air, Gary Vee. He look like one of them motherfuckers that'll undercut you on the fast break.

Hey, no layups, man. No layups. D-Bud, thanks, man. Who's on his way? d-butt thanks man oh yeah he's he's on his way this week two days so are we gonna see you d-butt you guys can't fucking wait are you coming d-butt you're not here are you speaking nah the intuitive lizard or uh iguana whoa i won't make it but i I know he's going to crush it. I know the city's on fire for this. Oh, you have no idea? There's pictures up at the airport, like giant, mural-sized things going on. I actually saw Gary B. this weekend buzzing around.

Gary B. Setting everything up. Oh, my goodness. Well, we'll make sure we check in to see what happens at VCon D, but thanks for your time, man. We really appreciate it. Good luck on your golfing endeavors, your basketball domination of these kids.

I know Pac has some issues. I feel like those kids closed out hard enough when you were taking open threes. Hey, we'll all be in the Thunderdome soon enough. Hey, I don't have two left feet, so I can tell you that. Oh, no. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Butler.

Thank you. Honestly, D-Bub might score 50 in that one game. It was simply for Darius Butler. Thank you. Honestly, D-Bot might have scored 50 in that one game. It was only for D, too. I can see Pac scowling at this. Who's playing defense on him? Come on. I respect that he has a legitimate jump shot. It's not like a set shot.

Jump. Oh, no. He's up there. D-Bot's still playing. Yeah. He's also throwing down in this. How upset are these kids? These kids.

These kids are at least trying to pressure him, though. The kid's trying, yeah. That kid was better. Yeah. This other kid with the great, great, here, lefty, two feet, right there. Nice Jordans, though. Yeah. Two left Jordans.

That's just a great shot right there. Right here, he's got a little post move. This kid in the blue ain't never played. He's got to be 6'7", too. Oh, shit. Okay, D-Bot. The more we show this, the more pissed Gary Vee gets, and he's going to all of a sudden show up in one of these.

We're going to see a video of Gary just hacking D-Bot from behind. Yeah, I can see Gary Vee. How has nobody fouled this fucking guy yet? Does D-Bot bring a videographer? Who films this for him? I don't know. That's a good question. AM1 right there.

I think he might cook you. He's making plays. Good for D-Bud. D-Bud, from what I've learned from being around D-Bud over these last couple years, he doesn't just tiptoe into anything. No, he got all the way in. He seems to jump all in. I respect that.

He's definitely going to be driving an F1 car. He's going to be doing the pace lap or whatever. He was already talking to Jay Leno, right? At the F1 situation. Yes, he was with Jay. He's driving next to a young kid who looked like a professional driver. Golfing every day when he jumped. Golfs every day.

Yep. Yeah, so whatever D-Bot does, he probably just perfects it, and then he just goes to something else. Yeah, he masters it. I mean, look at him. Him and Jay Leno. Jay loves the guy. Have you seen this?

Have you heard about this? I think that's what Jay said. How do you think it went when they both initially shook hands and met and then took a picture? Was it Jay that asked D-Bot for the picture? Hey, D-Bot, let me get a photo. What do you say? I think so, actually. I love everything DB.

He's a big Colts fan. Yeah. Is he? Oh, yeah. Jay's pretty tall. Jay's got to be, what, 6'2"? Yeah, he's up there. He actually looks good. I thought he was. He does. I thought he was. He's 70 big Colts fan. Yeah. Is he? Oh, yeah. Jay's pretty tall. Jay's got to be, what, 6'2"? Yeah, he's up there. He actually looks good.

I thought he was. Yeah, because he's 70-something. He had that horrible fight. He has flipped, like, eight cars in the last three years. Was it one of his, like, old steam engine cars that caught fire? It was in his garage, and he was, like, doused in gasoline or something. He was being a little grease monkey underneath the hood or something. Then I don't know if someone, like, flicked a cigarette in there or what happened,

but there was a massive fire in his garage. Pac, are you tight with Jay Leno? No, I'm not tight with Jay Leno. I know Jay Leno. You ever been to his hangar with all his cars? Yeah, I have. It's legit a hangar, I heard. Legit crazy. He probably have 500 cars

in there. It's unbelievable. How? Where does that go? Because he doesn't have kids either. Who gets it? Who does that go to? I mean, he got everything. Pretty much everything. He has like a steam engine thing. I saw he had like one of the first cars and he has like a locomotive. I know exactly what you mean.

Drives it down the road too out there. It's by Burbank, right? It's by the Burbank Airport. And he bought an old hangar and it's a shop. That's absurd. Jerry has a similar situation, right? Jerry has Porsches, I thought, right? Seinfeld. I think Jerry Seinfeld has a huge Porsche.

He's got a bunch of different cars. Yeah. He gets coffee in them. Where does he keep them? I assume he probably has a hangar, too. He lives in New York City. He probably got a place in L.A. as well. I'm sure he has a couple.

Yeah, you're right. Probably has a place out on the island. Where did Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee go? What do you mean? Is it done? I think they're still doing it. He sold it to somebody, I feel like. Oh, really?

Or maybe he went to Netflix. It started on Crackle or something. Yeah. And then he went to Netflix. That was a big deal. That was a big show for him. Gary's cars are at an underground place in Manhattan. Oh, there you go.

Oh, really? Boom. He probably pays $3 million a month just to park them. Oh, yeah. In New York. I would assume he just does it whenever the fuck he wants to. Yeah. Hey, Netflix, I'm ready for another season.

Jerry's schedule seems to be that. Yeah. I just saw something pop up where he was with Howard Stern. He claims he turned down $110 million to do one more season of Seinfeld. I don't doubt it. Did you read that? I read that. I didn't watch the clip, so I could be completely wrong, but that's what it says.

So this says Leno has about 180 cars, and Jerry's got about 150. Jerry's got 150. That's a lot of cars. All of Jay's feel like they're in that one spot. I bet Jerry's are spread out a little bit. Maybe. Yeah, because he probably does have some in L.A. How many cars you got, Pac?

Damn. One, two, three. Cars in. About 15. Nice. 15? You got a barn? You got a shop?

Where do you park them? Yeah, I got a couple of them in Atlanta. I got this one barn in Cincinnati that I use. But, like, my track hog, Damon, I got a 69 Chevelle. Wait, you just bought a bus, I saw. Yeah, I bought that yesterday. What are you doing? Is that part of the touring thing you were doing?

No, it's a project. For you? Yeah, it's a project. I love buses, RVs. I love everything. Is that Jay's place? Wow. Sick. Is it Jay or Jerry? Yeah, it's a project. I love buses, RVs. I love everything. Is that Jay's place? Wow. Sick.

Is it Jay or Jerry? Oh, yes, Jay. Beast. Are you kidding me? I'll take what great dad's place. I rock out. Oh, I'm getting it painted. Okay.

Tone Diggs. And I had to get it right before I bring it up. Smart. Yeah. Patrick Peterson's big into cars. You seen his collection? He's big. He's got a nice collection.

Big setup. He's an a nice collection. Big setup. He's an old muscle car guy, right? One of the best I've seen is Chris Brown. Chris Brown got a crazy sick collection. Really? In Atlanta? About 10 Lambos. Every Lambo you can name.

In California. That's absurd. It's crazy. AJ's is sweet, too. He's got that apple of his eye, the 96 Dodge Ram that he drives. I think it's like 2013, maybe. 2013. They got crank windows. Cigarette lighters

in there. GPS got invented a couple years later. So I don't have it. You got still used to Garmin? Yeah. You got old suction cup Garmin when I was a freshman in high school. You got the six disc changer underneath the passenger seat. Those were so sweet. Just don't have any bumps because it'll skip. Oh yeah skip oh yeah yeah that's true we gotta get the anti-skip boy we we we've come a long way haven't we have look at us and you're still fucking around out there

that's right man analog i like it old school yep what's your uh first car when you signed talking to pack both you guys aj's is in the parking lot yeah it's still here actually i didn't yeah i don't know mine was a dealer car that I'm still rolling with. So, yeah. Like Kurt Warner. My wife has a nice, yeah. I like her car. It's like a tank.

Yeah, didn't you get the green Trailblazer? And you're like, go Packers. The green Trailblazer. Packers for life! I never did have a Packer color car, no. I never did. No, I think it was actually the Blazer. I had the OJ Bronco.

My wife got me the OJ Bronco for my birthday like eight or nine years ago. White Bronco was legit. It was awesome. But then I drove it for a while, and then it wasn't reliable. It wouldn't consistently start. It was always something. And I couldn't figure it out, and so we had to get rid of it eventually. Damn.

It was awesome, though. Broncos are sweet. Yeah. It was redone. It was really nice. Yeah, Foxy's got one of the new ones. The new ones are awesome, too. Oh, Foxy's out here.

They have different sizes, too. Well, they have a Sport and a Regular. I like the big one. The Regular is the one. Yeah, Foxy's got one of the new ones. The new ones are awesome, too. Oh, that Foxy's out here. They have different sizes, too. Yeah. Well, they have a Sport and a Regular. I like the big one. The Regular is the one. Yeah, the one Foxy has. The Sport ones are Mickey Mouse. They are.

Can't you take the doors off and stuff? Yeah, Foxy, you can, right? Yep, you can take the whole roof off, any of the doors off, the whole deal. I love it. I mean, I've always loved Wranglers. I love taking all the doors off, taking everything off, driving around in the summer. Old school, 65 Wranglers. Them damn Wranglers. Damn Wranglers.

Still cost after you drive them around and everything. What did you buy when you first, what car? What was your first car? Bentley. Bentley right off the bat? Fordo Bentley, yeah. How much are those? I think I spent, at that time, I spent like $194.

Oh, I thought you were going to say like $400. Me too. You still got it? No. Oh, wow. But you have those holder values? 2005. Those should hold their value. You have a different Bentley now. Yeah, I have a different Bentley wow. But you have those holder values? Those should hold their value.

You have a different Bentley now? Yeah, I have a different Bentley now. You have a two-door? Yeah, convertible. The speed? Oh, yeah. You had a couple teammates get those, like the little Sport or whatever they call them. Did you say there was too much power and you didn't feel like safe driving? Oh, what?

What happened? That's what he told me. That doesn't sound like him. I know. He's back with a moth pack, man. There's just too much power on this car. What am I doing, man? I can see Pat coming in.

Man, this thing is way too powerful, guys. I got to get rid of it. That fucking electric car was way too powerful. So wait, is that what you're thinking? You sent that out to pasture? That thing's gone already? It's out, bro. Speaking of, Dion just got that fucking sweet truck.

Oh, yeah. Do we have it? What is it? Oh, my God. This thing is absurd. Like Russell Wilson type truck? Nah, yeah. Do we have it? What is it? Oh, my God. This thing is absurd. Like Russell Wilson type truck? Nah, a little bigger than that. Is it like the semis?

You're in this area. I remember the Cowboys had a few guys. Mark Colombo, I think. He had the semi truck. Legit. It's like a monster truck. That's pretty much it. This is sick.

What? Oh, my God. This pop, this pop, a dream truck right here. It's awesome. His head goes to the door handle. Yeah, he said you need a 40 inch to get up into it. Where do you park?

Wherever you want. Obviously. You just push the car out of the way. I mean, that's like an end of days. If things go wrong, we need to all sprint to Dion and get to that thing. He had a crazy garage too. Oh, I would imagine. Jeez.

I've seen some of the stuff on his property. I don't know where he's at, what he does with it now, but, like, awesome properties he had. He had a bunch of land in Dallas, didn't he, around there? Yeah, he was, like, in Prosper. Yeah, like 300 and some acres. F-650. He just moved on the other side and got 300 more acres. F-650 super truck.

I mean, those things on the side look like the grills where you put ribs for a few weeks. That's actually an add-on. It gets like 37 miles to the gallon too. Oh, I believe it. Definitely. Those usually do. I'd love paying the 15k in diesel every single time I need to fill this up at the gas station.

That thing is sweet. Big tow ranch on there. I had some teammates with big old duallys in Green Bay. They'd have to plug them in. They'd plug them in the parking or keep them running all day in practice while we're in there when it was freezing cold. I mean, that's a monster truck. Yeah. That's what it is.

So they're just going to give. It's like a semi front almost. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they. I remember 12 years ago seeing, I think Mark Colombo pull out and Bobby Carpenter was telling me about it. He's like, it's legit like the front of a semi.

And I'm looking up, and I'm like, yeah, you're right. He's not even the lot. Russ's truck was like that, right? He came up when he was wearing his jersey when he showed up to training camp? Yeah, but his was wrapped in Russell Wilson faces with a Let's Ride on him. Was Russ's an F650 super truck? Let's Ride. Let's Ride.

I don't know. Do you think they're going to do that again this season? I think a lot of Russ's antics feel like Sean Payton's going to kind of put the Knicks to him, right? You think Broncos are going to be good back? Yeah, buck them, baby. How many wins? How many wins for the Broncos? I think the Broncos are going to be all right.

I believe in Sean Payton. Yep. But how much better than last year is the question? I mean, look. Come on. Look at the screen. Come on. That's three wins at least more.

Three extra. They got Tim Patrick back. He was out the entire year with an ACL. Yes. And they got Javante Williams back. He was also out the entire year with an ACL. So, like, you would assume. Courtland Sutton's still there?

Courtland Sutton. Jerry Judy. Man, they do have some weapons. Mike McGlinchey. Mike McGlinchey. They got Russ. Russ might win the MVP this year. If Liz Wright get it done.

Yeah. I don't think he's going to win the MVP. I don't think he'll win the MVP. I think he's going to be good though. What happened last year? There's a lot of quarterbacks up there. Last year? Yeah.

I think it goes back to when we retired him out. I think he's dinged up too. I think he had to be dinged up. He had to be dealing with some kind of injury. Well, everyone keeps – Pelissero came on and said it, too, and kind of it's been reiterated a few times now that he might have been 15, 20 overweight. Oh, Pelissero said that?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, when Tom was on with Ian. No, who was his own player? Somebody played against him that said that. Who was the – he was on his own team or whatever. He said, man, you see him on TV, and then I saw him in person, and I was like, man, what? What happened or something. Who was that? He was on his own team or whatever. He said, man, you see him on TV? And then I saw him in person. And I was like, man, what?

What happened or something? Who was that? Another player on another team said that about him. We talked about it on the show. He referenced him as some kind of term about his body. So he didn't have an office. He had a cafeteria. Oh, I do remember that.

I forget who that was. Opposing DB. I forget who it was, but we'll figure it out. He called him something. Fatso? No, no, Ty. That would hurt. He called him Thick.

No, I just said something about it. We had a guy, we had a dude who another teammate used to call him. Man, he referenced his body, and it was such a perfect thing. You know when someone comes up with something, they give a name to it? Something about his body is, dude, this guy's body being like a something refrigerator or something weird comment where it made perfect sense and then he saw the guy and then that stuck

with him for the rest of his life. He's kind of a bad body guy. No, but that also was the accurate way to describe Eddie Lacey. No, this is not Eddie. Don't slander Eddie. I'm not slandering him. He was a fridge. I told Eddie, gain as much weight you can, buddy. Your feet are amazing.

Yeah. But then after, yeah, then eventually, I guess it didn't work out. I loved Eddie Lacy. Eddie was honestly such a happy, fun dude. So good, too. I mean, the Packers, they shouldn't have done this. They shouldn't have put this picture out. It's a rough angle.

He had one year with like 15 Packers. Right, Pack? Come on now. He's turning back. Come on. He looked like a D-lineman. It's top angle. Yeah, but his arms are yoked.

Good luck. That's a tough thing. You get Eddie in the open field. Okay, yeah, let's try to go low. Nope. His lower body weighs 1,000. He is so thick. His legs are so strong.

There's no easy way to tackle him. He was a dancing bear. He was. What does that mean? He usually didn't play for the Packers. They drafted him in the second round and what like 12 or 13 maybe yeah something like that he wasn't there his first like his first two years so good was the chinese food uh claws real china food oh there was that when that when

he went to seattle no no there's no way that was no way that was real there's actually in his contract you're saying no he just tweeted i like i love china food and that was real. Actually, in his contract, you're saying? No, he just tweeted, like, I love China food. And that was when he was still with the Packers. And then he showed up and he was, you know, he had ballooned up quite a bit. But, yeah, no, I mean, he didn't stick in Seattle for very long either. He was there. He had weight costs there. Remember, he had like a certain, like, they could take a bunch of money

if he wasn't under like 240 or 235. And then all of a sudden they just let him go, didn't they? Yeah. He never really played there. Yeah, but those first two years, he was something special. Yeah. And they devalued that running back position. We have all these running backs that are free agents out there.

Oh, yeah. A lot. Leonard Fournette, maybe Dalvin Cook eventually. Who else out there? All these guys that are going to have to play on. I read something where Zeke's old running back coach or somebody said, you're going to have to get used to playing for a million dollars or something. He said, you're used to playing for 20 a year.

You're going to have to figure it out and play for like one this year, basically. Yeah, that's the thing. Reprove yourself or something. But he lived through the final. Granted, it might come back and get me the NFL cyclical, but he lived through the final era of running backs getting paid. Running backs aren't going to get paid, are they? No, no, no.

But Zeke had a great run. Yeah. But if you do go and start, he ain't going to get – he might get a million-dollar base with some incentives in it. But you had your peak of the time now is do you really want to play football? Yeah. Because it ain't about the money no more. You got to really say, all right, I really want to wake up every day, deal with because it ain't about the money no more like you

got to really say all right i really want to wake up every day deal with the bullshit and not get paid yeah and he's not like the running backs that do get paid now like alvin camara and tony pollard and these dude christian mccaffrey these guys who you can all right bijan robinson assuming that they do this with them like yeah you're gonna get 10 15 carries but we're also gonna throw you the ball like you're gonna go and run routes you're going to get 10, 15 carries, but we're also going to throw you the ball. You're going to go and run routes. You're not just going to leak out of the backfield and get the ball. You're going to be a wide receiver for some of the snaps

when you're in the game. We'll see what happens, too, because he gave that list. Like, hey, Bengals, Jets, or whoever. We'll take them for a million and some change. I think the Bengals would love it, man. Play college ball right up the road. If Joe's going to be on the team. Yeah, Mixon.

Yeah, what is going on with him? He's still under contract, right? Been all quiet on that front. Mixon can play. Yeah. Yeah, especially if Mixon might not be there. They should absolutely go get him. You can get Zeke for cheap.

Give him some incentives. You can get Zeke for cheap, man. You know, who knows? Joe might get suspended for it. Cream Hunt's still a free agent. You know what I mean? Cream Hunts a free agent? Mm-hmm.

Man. There's some good running backs out there. So these teams just waiting to, like, maybe right before camp or maybe if a guy gets hurt? Exactly. All these running backs that we're naming, they're not really scat backs. They're all power backs. Goal line, yeah.

Yeah, like four down backs. Like, these guys, we can't really motion them out the back and put them one-on-one. Like they don't fit that repertoire. So it's going to be eager to see where it goes. Like Pittsburgh would be a good fit for one of these running backs, but they have a great running back. Yeah, they've got Naj and then actually the –

Jalen Warren. Who do Baltimore have? Dobbins. Dobbins is back. Dobbins off the ACL. Gus Edwards. What about Patriots, Con? You know they're never paying a running back. No, never.

They got Ramondre Stevenson. He's our best player on offense right now. Then when he needs a contract, he'll go somewhere else, right? Yep, 100%. The Jets would make a lot of sense for someone behind Brees Hall, especially coming off an ACL injury. Brees, you ain't getting paid if you go to Jets. No, for sure, but I think he

probably knows. Yeah, exactly, like Zeke or someone like that. That's why those guys that are veteran running backs that are on the market right now, the dream is to go to a team that's really good, and all of a sudden, you're going to find a role where you feel satisfied and you're scoring a bunch of touchdowns or something. Yeah, I'm not. I don't

have the role I used to have, but I scored 14 touchdowns, and I only rushed bunch of touchdowns or something. Yeah, I'm not. I don't have the role I used to have, but I scored 14 touchdowns and I only rushed for maybe 600 yards or something. I mean, McCaffrey can do everything. He's so different, I feel like. McCaffrey's still the main guy. Wherever he goes, he's such a weapon. Like Lambeau says, in the six-back offense, you can use

him as a running back, obviously, and he's just as efficient as a receiver and a slot receiver or reverse as whatever you want. Yeah, these guys want the Jerome Bettis role when he won that last – Oh, yes, you're right. With the Steelers where he had like 18 touchdowns and rushed for like 93 yards. And Big Ben saved him on the tackle against the Colts. Perfect situation.

I still almost never forgive Jerome for that. I mean, that's like the greatest tackle in Steelers history. Yes. If he doesn't make that tackle, a lot of things are different. Was there no one-yard line going in? Oh, yeah. And they were... Boom. Ball pops out. Who was returning

it? Nick Harper? I think he might. Roman Harper? I don't know. Either way, Ben made an unbelievable tackle from his back. Didn't he? Oh, yeah. Right afterwards. And it wouldn't have stood up. I don't know. Either way, Ben made an unbelievable tackle from his back. Didn't he? Remember that back? Yeah. In the entire stadium right afterwards.

No way. And he didn't win the game yet. He did. Is that when he started doing that? Yeah. That was the original. I don't think I believed you. I was.

Jerome Bettis' son's getting recruited, I saw. I knew. Big Bettis. He's a big wide receiver. Where's he going, Ty? Athletic as hell. I had a chance to chill with Jerome Bettis in Atlanta. He's a big golfer, too.

Oh, he is. Oh. But his son is a dog. Is he? Athletic as hell. I had a chance to chill with Jerome Bettis in Atlanta. He's a big golfer, too. Oh, he is. But his son is a dog. Is he? Tight end. Yeah. Big boy, too. He can go to Notre Dame. He can move, too.

Good feet. Really? Jerome had some sweet feet. That's what made Jerome special. You know Notre Dame made Jerome go back to school to get his degree, bro? We had to – Like recently? He had to literally go back and stay on campus.

Like sit in class and everything? Yeah. Yeah, man. They don't mess around. They don't lower anything. Couldn't do it on line or nothing, though. You would think, oh, here's the player right here. Man, for people that didn't see this, what a –

120 left, up three. Can you imagine? To ice the game. How did Ben get there? Oh, my gosh. What a tackle. Look at the dive by the O-lineman, too. And then –

You had to lose your mind. And then what happened here? What did the defense do here? They got into field goal range, and then Vanderjack fucking just missed the field goal. Oh, really? Our idiot kicker got liquored up and ran his mouth. He was throwing touchdowns at Jerry Rice.

There's an awesome video of Cowher and Jerome and everyone on the sideline just mouthing he missed it. I mean, the Steelers' history is different. Oh, yeah. and Jerome and everyone on the sideline just mouth and he missed it. And like it's all I was. I mean the history history is different. Oh yeah. Colts history.

Oh yeah. Completely different. This ball Papa. Oh God. Just helmet right on the ball. Right on the ball. That's Carrie B. And it was Nick Harper picked up.

How pumped. Also he realized he apparently got stabbed the night before or something like that. So what. Who did? Oh, I do remember hearing that. Harper?

Yeah. He got stabbed? By his girlfriend or his wife or something like that? Do we know right now in this moment that he got stabbed, or we found out later? Later, I think. I remember that happened with, I don't remember it being him. I think when they're running back, they got stabbed in the leg by his girlfriend or something. Maybe in college. Fucking Gary Brackett right on the helmet.

Oh, my gosh. What was Jerome thinking? Oh, my oh my god like fall on it lose pickle oh no oh this is how it's supposed to end he thinking watch this lineman at the end dive after ben makes a tackle that's my favorite part right 73 or no right there oh that was pretty good that would hurt what do you do if you're jerome Oh, shit. Just hope he misses. Pray to God. I guess that's a positive thing. We'll end it on a positive thing for the Steelers, right? Thank you.

For the Steelers. Colts, positive play for the Colts as well, actually. Well, not really. Just didn't finish it. If Vanderjack makes that kick, it's different. True. That's why we love sports, isn't it? That's exactly right. What if?

Boys, appreciate you. Pat will be back here in his seat tomorrow, right? Yep. That's what he said? Yep. Pat, appreciate you, buddy. My boy. Boys, all you guys, thank you guys very much. It's been fun driving up here. I'll be back here in his seat tomorrow right yep that's what he said yep pack appreciate you buddy boy boys all you guys thank you guys very much been fun driving up here i'll be back obviously yeah you crushed it i'll be back uh at times driving back and forth multiple times i'm pac-man does this all the time but i got a little shorter drive a little shorter yeah

it's good it's good time alone to think yeah it's always nice having uh you know a little drive do you want to maybe try and make a basketball for a little merch giveaway before you leave? I want Pac to make one. Pac's got the hockey jersey on. I know. Pac's going to be here tomorrow. When this clip goes on, I want Stoner to see it. Yeah, but you're not going to be here tomorrow.

I'm going to throw this right in that hoop. Okay, there you go. Let's do it. There's two more down there. What about the three things over there? Give the people a better chance. Yeah, throw one in there. Right in here? Yeah. For ten merches. Man, I need some chalk.

My hands are sweaty. Ooh, nervous. Uh-oh. Wait, wait. Hold on. Come on, AJ. Bonus ball. Bonus ball.

Super sweaty. Why are you throwing it like a goddamn pitch? There's a couple over here. There's a couple over here. Bill's got a bunch of lye in his room in the back. On the other side of... That ball is... That ball had some stuff. Over here, on the other side of this box.

Lick your fingies like Drew Brees. Yeah. That's your guy, right? Love it. There it is. Good ball, though. You're throwing it 100 miles an hour. You're just throwing it hard, though.

I'll tell you that. Here we go. Tell Hunter how to do it. Let's go. What is it? What are people getting? Merches? Yeah, I retrieved this video for 10 merches.

Yep. There we go. All right, boys. Thank you, everybody. Pat, we'll be back here tomorrow. Everyone that's watching, appreciate you. Take about 23 or whatever it's going to be, 24 hours. We'll see you tomorrow.

Bye.