The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 908 - Feel Good Friday with Fireman Ed, Al Micheals and Ian Rapoport

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, Pacman Jones, and the boys break DAHN the NBA and NHL playoffs from the night before. After some conversation Pat welcomes on Jets super fan and retired New York Fire ...fighter, Fireman Ed to discuss some disgraceful remarks made by this progrum’s very own Boston Connor. The optimism is great as Pat transitions the conversation from Connor’s harsh words to his expectations from the Jets this upcoming season. As the conversation rolls on Pat brings on a play by play legend and current voice of Thursday Night Football on Prime Video Al Micheals. They get into the transition from Sunday night’s games to now calling the games on Thursdays and last season as a whole, as well as a look ahead to the upcoming games this year as the full schedule was recently announced. To close out the show Pat brings on our good friend Ian Rapoport to wrap up the NFL news from this week. Have a fantastic weekend and hope to see you back with us on Monday. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to catch the show live. We appreciate the hell out of you all, see you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Feel Good Friday, May 19th, 2023. This sports program starts right now. Feel Good! Friday, a little bit, that was an embarrassment from the toxic table, who looks a little bit different today, at Boston Connor and at Browner 5000, believe Bruce Brown is here great to see you Bruce now we might as well just go ahead and clear the air now on why Ty is not here uh ESPN actually told us to suspend Ty for at least one day for something that he said yesterday we don't know exactly what it was could have been a thousand different things and even though our show is not on espn yet or
Starting point is 00:00:46 you know even changed at all to the espn show that we're going to become you know which is a completely different one of course espn did reach out and say hey you need to get that guy to quote them i think they said get the tiny headed fuck off your air that's right for at least a day i think is what it was said in the email. So Ty's suspended for a day. He gets a nice three-day weekend. Congrats to him. Way to go, Ty.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Well, no, no. Oh, yeah, shit. Because suspensions aren't good. This isn't high school. This is a bad thing. Yeah. They weren't good in high school either, okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Tone Diggs won half of the hammer. Cowboys. Sometimes it was a badge of honor, though. You know what I mean? Sometimes you've got to go down with the ship. Sure, we all did. There was a couple in-school suspensions that I had to last a little bit longer because they wanted me to write an apology to the teacher. There you go. Which, now
Starting point is 00:01:31 I'm thinking about it, has come really... Full circle. Full circle. Didn't do it then. Had to sit in there for about a week and a half. Didn't do it now, but people were reporting it was, and that's bullshit. You and I, I believe, got suspended together for like five basketball games. We went out to go to a basketball game for like five days. Yeah, we had too much passion for our team.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah, a lot of words there. Oh, is that right? Yeah, too much. Chance? Chance. Probably some Todd's. I feel like we were pretty good shit talkers. I mean, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:01:56 That's Krop. It was Krop, but that's, you got to get through some Krop to get to the other side. Ty's at a bachelor party. So he was not suspended. I just want to clarify that. We were thinking about having a moment to say thank you for your time. Good run, Ty. Love you, Ty.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Amazing. That's awesome. There's probably people right now. He probably was. Yeah, holy shit. Now they're just walking it back. Someone just had to delete their article that they had just started. Salat, Salat.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, we had to suspend Ty. It's a shame. If we wouldn't have addressed it, he was at a bachelor party. I honestly thought we were going to run with it that he was suspended. I actually don't believe that he's at a bachelor party. See, that's the problem. False flag. Anyways, let's have a great feel-good Friday.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Last night, sports are doing their thing. We're in the conference finals department of two major, major leagues, and that being the NBA and the NHL. Last night, the NHL saw the sixth longest game in NHL history. Four overtimes, okay? And it wasn't until like final seconds of the fourth overtime where the Florida Panthers stole the joy out of all of Carolina. The game ended at about 2 a.m.
Starting point is 00:03:02 There was 25,000 Caniats screaming all over the place, and they had to go home, going into a workday Friday with limited sleep and devastation as their hearts were broken late into the fourth overtime. Long game, great action,
Starting point is 00:03:20 and the Florida Panthers continue to surprise everybody with their greatness. Nicky skates back there. This game was a great game. I mean, there's no way any of us stood up for it or would stay up for that whole thing. Darius said he stayed up all night for this, obviously, because he's a massive Florida Panthers fan. Huge. Outside of that Caniacs arena, which was still packed to the gills at 2 a.m.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Oh, yeah. Shout out to them, because that's a full decision that has to get made. You know, because it's Thursday night and we're getting in there. First overtime. That's a whole nother fucking period. And there's a whole nother intermission. A lot of chance. And then you go to second overtime.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It's like, are we staying? A whole nother period. Whole other intermission. Third overtime. There was another fucking game that was played. And then another intermission. And then the fourth overtime. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And they, I'm assuming people left, but the video has a lot of motherfuckers in that arena. Oh, yeah. Aside from them, did anybody stay up to watch that last night? And whenever you think about that, what does that normally indicate for games going ahead? This obviously means they're going to be exhausted for at least the next three to four games.
Starting point is 00:04:23 What does that mean for our betting on the series,y skates yeah i can't imagine anyone stayed to watch that and as far as moving forward in the series goes it's going to be tough if you remember last year a lot of us in here penguins fans bruce brown's ranger fan we watched that penguins rangers game that went to like triple overtime in game one last year and it definitely had an effect on the rest of the series guys are tired like this laid into the thing already then we haven't had one of those like super long ot games yet throughout the playoffs yet you get finally get that last night in the eastern conference final so that really weighs on a team going the rest of the way a lot of heavy legs we're gonna see a lot of heavy legs uh but you know they're professionals yeah they're good through they're already tired they're all
Starting point is 00:05:02 exhausted another game it's a best of eight all of a sudden instead of a best of seven because they added a game and another period on massive for the Panthers, though, to get that win to get game one win on home ice of the Carolina Caniacs. Yeah, it's nice to go in there and steal one, you know, winning home and then you got to steal one on the road. They've already been able to do that. Will they be able to win at home? We shall see. Let's
Starting point is 00:05:20 pivot to the others. Congrats to the Panthers. South Florida just learning that hockey exists. Also having a chance to maybe win in lift Lordo. Who knows to the Panthers. Way to go, Panthers. South Florida just learning that hockey exists. Also having a chance to maybe win and lift Lordo. Who knows how the Western Conference is going to shape up. But we know that Stoner and the boys are going to be ready for that green Texas hockey team. Now let's go to the other league that has their conference finals taking place.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Anytime the Lakers are on TV, you're going to watch. Because Bron Bron's on there. And now that he's playing against this team that I don't think any of us had any respect for or knew about before the playoffs. No, no. With this big, tall Serbian bastard who seemingly is the best basketball player on earth. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Obviously won back-to-back MVPs this year. Wasn't even on a Zoom call whenever they were going to announce who won the MVP, even though I assume every Denver Nugget fan on earth said this guy can win it every single year. Yes. Look at his stats. That is on the offensive end, what are you doing? It.
Starting point is 00:06:04 On the defensive end, what are you doing? It. On the defensive end, what are you doing? It. On the offensive end, when you're not scoring, what are you doing? It. This fucking guy does it all. Triple-double machine. And whenever he only has, like, five assists or six assists, it's an anomaly. This dude's a point guard who's seven-foot-whatever, bullies people and has talent.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And that guy he's playing against right there in that photo, Anthony Davis, has the chance to be incredible. Game one, 40 points, had it going. Last night, dog shit. Half of that. Now Denver won both their games at home. That's what they had to do. Now they've got to go into the crib and see if they can handle old LeBron and everybody.
Starting point is 00:06:38 This feels, though, like Denver might be unstoppable. Connor, what a game last night in the NBA. Yeah, it was ridiculous. And to your point with LeBron, you can't count him out. It's too low. He's one of the greatest players ever. He's flopping all over the place. I am so sick of the flopping.
Starting point is 00:06:54 He deserved on that flop. It was an egregious flop, but also, you know, Jokic, he got him back two plays later. He flopped. Yeah, LeBron slides all the way into courtside. He's pretty cool for those people sitting courtside, though. But Jokic got him back. Spilled a guy's beer on the – he was in the key.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah. That thing happened at the foul line. Joker's a big body, okay? He jumped all the way over there. He's a bully. He got the call here? Yeah, he did. Yeah, he got the call.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Of course he did. Jokic got one two plays later. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Jeez. That was not, whoa, whoa. Jeez. That was not a flop, okay? The dude's in the middle of the court. Not a flop at all. Should have been kicked out, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Him or the other guy? Joker. Oh, okay. I want to know how the guy holding the drink couldn't react in time by the time he got there. No, he's looking at the action. There's no way. I have my periphery over here. There's nobody within 15, 20 feet of me.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And then all of a sudden, LeBron James flies. The flop. Now, that was obviously, are you disrespecting Joker's strength? Oh, no. Thank you. Joker is a dog. He is a bully, and he is powerful. You've seen him on the back of that horse yesterday.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah. This dude actually picks up horses and puts them down in his little wood wagon. So there's a chance that LeBron, exactly. There's a chance that LeBron can get thrown from one side of the arena to the other, just like he did last night. And even if they get that call, that's going to be a tough,
Starting point is 00:08:17 this is going to be a tough series for the Lakers. Oh yeah, no doubt about it. This Denver team is fantastic. And Jamal Murray's a fucking dude. Exactly. When he's playing, as well as he did last night, there was a time where Jokic went out for a little, and then it was just the Jamal Murray show.
Starting point is 00:08:30 He had 23 points in the fourth quarter. The story kind of was in the first half, like, hey, Jamal Murray, better pick it up because if he doesn't, then this is going to be a long series for the Nuggets. Second half, he just turned into a completely different player. It was unbelievable to watch. And during it, as a Celtics fan, I started to get the feeling watching the Nuggets, like, shit, I don't know if any team can beat the Nuggets going forward
Starting point is 00:08:51 because they're doing everything right. We're so game to game with the NBA, you know. And it would be cool to be able to show that highlight of LeBron. He got shot putted by a Serbian last night. And by saying, like, Jokic,'s very strong guy is LeBron like a skinny bitch or what was the deal here? Cause he's not. No, he just knows that that's not allowed in basketball.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You can't just, it is allowed. I think the flopping is what people don't think should be allowed. And then yeah, here's Yoko just flop. Cause he got him back two plays later and LeBron started laughing. Cause he knew, okay. Flop for flop and eye for an eye. A lot of smiling and. Whoa. See LeBron's a because he knew. Okay, flop for flop, an eye for an eye. A lot of smiling and... Whoa!
Starting point is 00:09:27 See, LeBron's a strong guy, you know? Control the hips, control the body. This is a highly contested, heavy-spirited fucking... I think they respect each other's series. But let's... Pump breaks, okay? I love the Nuggets a lot more than I love the Lakers, okay? But Nuggets are 34-7 at home this year.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They are 19-22 away. They started against the Suns, I believe, up 2-0, and then the Suns got two games at home. What's the deal? Joker can't play on the road? Don't have his horse and wagon? I think it's that old tale of the role players on the road, and the Nuggets have... Nuggets get a lot of scoring from their role players, so
Starting point is 00:10:01 if they don't play as well on the road, you know, and they go back to the Crip, this could be 2-2 going back to Denver. Well, we know Pac-Man is certainly heartbroken because of his Packers. Sorry, not Packers. You have a Pack, Lakers, you combined them. Yeah, packed with the Lakers and LeBron. That's why the Lakers had to win last night, though, because the role players played awesome.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It was just AD that didn't really show up on the offensive end. And LeBron, right? LeBron didn't have a good game? The conversation with LeBron, he did have a good game, but he is shooting 0% from three over these last two games. Altitude, maybe, with the legs? Yeah, because he's been banging off the back.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Bo travels a little bit further. Aim for the front of the room, as opposed to the middle of the thing. Tell them the easiest bet, though. Austin Reeves over one and a half threes. I think it's up to two and a half now. They're on to us, but... He's had five each game.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Absolutely printing money on Austin Reeves over one and a half. Austin's a dog. Beast. Yeah. He scored, actually. LeBron twisted his ankle. This is towards the end of the game. It was 101-96, and they're down by five.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Austin Reeves brings the ball up. Quick little dribble. LeBron's still back in the backcourt. He did towards his ankle. It was bad. And Reeves just banks in a three. All of a sudden, it's a two-point game. He's always exactly where LeBron wants him to be.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And that's really what Austin Reeves needs to be doing. Well, that's because LeBron has such high basketball IQ. Oh, yeah. And that's why the first time he's seen Austin Reeves play, he said, this guy got good basketball IQ. He's going to be a star. You know, he's the same page as me. It was literally first practice.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Remember, he said, this guy's got a high basketball IQ. He knew it right away. I know he does. And then you hear like Caruso and everybody talk about Braun. They're like, hey, he's brilliant. So if he has respect for somebody, it's probably because he feels as if they are in, I don't want to say equal,
Starting point is 00:11:36 but in the same basketball intelligence conversation. And you got old Austin Reeves with the one leg sleeve. Hope his knee is all right. I was trying to watch his gait as he was walking down the court. I'm like, is that guy's knee okay? And then he got Braun with one on his left. I think there's a lot of banged up, like kind of meniscus maybe, a little bit of swelling.
Starting point is 00:11:54 It's a long season, and these dudes are playing. We appreciate everybody out there. Yeah, keep it going, boys. Almost there. His nugget seems awesome, though. I like the coach coming out and saying, I'm about sick and hired. I have everybody saying, are the Lakers going to be okay? Are the Lakers going to be okay?
Starting point is 00:12:10 Who gives a shit? Joker just had a historic performance. Talk about this big, tall Serbian about what he just did. Who cares about what? We are in this guy's time, okay? We understand this guy had a time. We are in this. He's the best basketball player on earth?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yes, absolutely. Is that what he is? No doubt about it. People are just getting used to it now. He's been. Because it's such a different style. Exactly. And he's been this good for so long.
Starting point is 00:12:30 It's kind of like Giannis five years ago. People were like, this guy's unbelievable. And then you just get numb to it. It's the same with Jokic. He has, he's averaging a triple-double in the playoffs. I don't know if that's ever happened. This is what I'm talking about. When this shows up at your fucking arena, good luck.
Starting point is 00:12:43 See you later. Is that like a thing there? Where just show up and race each other? Is that a thing where? Oh, my God. Don't be so disgusted. Spruce. Sorry, Bruce. You might as well just apologize now.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It doesn't even matter because Mickey Mouse is suspending him right after the show. Boom. See you later. Yeah, they don't just execute the horses on site there either. But is it like your? It's your business. Horsing business. Horsing around. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Bruce has been in the horse game a long time. Basement full of glue. Bruce. Jesus. He's been in the horse game a long time. That's not true. That's actually, you Google that, that's not a thing anymore. So they say.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It's not. Anyways. Just in hot dogs. They do hot dogs? They do horse dogs? They don't. That's a Ted Lasso reference if I ever see it. It's the latest episode of Ted. They do hot dogs? They do horse dogs? They don't. That's a Ted Lasso reference if I ever see it. His latest episode of Ted, they said that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Okay. Okay. I need to catch up, obviously. Coach Lasso needs to make me another person. It's really getting nice. Every episode's like that. And I saw him talking to Rich Eisen. He said he doesn't know if the show's done or not.
Starting point is 00:13:38 What? He said me and the co-creator, you know, we'll get, I believe he said, in a pool, have some drinks, and we'll start throwing around ideas. and we're not just going to continue the show just to continue the show he said if we come up with something yeah we'll do it if not we're not going to do it anymore kind of enlightening i'm sorry i missed it happy to hear horses aren't a part of hot dogs or glue it's nice to be in 2023 horses dying is certain something that has been brought up now more than it has in recent memory but also horse racing we're in the middle of horse racing season right now. So there's a lot of horse talk.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It feels like more people are interested in horse talk than they have been in a while. And what I'm hearing is the horse industry is fading. There's no more triple. All the horses that were supposed to be in Kentucky Derby, gone, scratched, sick, can't race. And then Ian Rappaport's horse gets in. And it's nowhere near, it's hurt, whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Preakness only has one horse that was in the derby in the Preakness. The Preakness is this weekend. Yeah, the Preakness is this weekend. Have you heard anything about it? No. Not at all. It is quiet as a whisper. I believe there are seven horses in the field now, so very small field. Connor, why don't you
Starting point is 00:14:42 go race in there? I will right now. Can we get him on all fours? I'll run. I've seen a girl on the internet she thinks she's a horse girl oh can we get her to put her in yeah it might be a little dangerous why is there only seven because every horse is sick or um so national treasure i believe scratched uh this morning um so that that was the brad cox horse that you know i was probably going to bet to win. He's out. Mage is the only horse that ran in the Kentucky Derby. Obviously won the Kentucky Derby.
Starting point is 00:15:11 He's the only horse running again. So a lot of people are calling now for them to move the Preakness back. Essentially, like. Can't do that. The history, it muddies the waters. Like, obviously, it'll be harder to compare Mage to Secretariat if you move the Princess back a couple months. Because you get a week break, two weeks break.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Yeah, it's a two-week break. So anybody with these three-year-olds, they run until they're five, six years old. They got Breeders' Cups coming up and all that. If you lose the Kentucky Derby, why would you turn around and point them to the Preakness and potentially, you know, injure your horse if it's banged up like Rapoli's was going into the Kentucky Derby. Can these horses get better, like, over two months, like faster? Yes, over two months, more over six to 12.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So they're at their fastest four years old, five years old. Which is the Breeders' Cup, which is not the Kentucky Derby, which is so frustrating that you guys have allowed this to be the horse business. The Breeders' Cup, that's the pros. Yes. These are the fastest fucking horses on this rock are running in the Breeders' Cup, that's the pros. These are the fastest fucking horses on this rock are running in the Breeders' Cup. I did not know that until last year.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I didn't know the Kentucky Derby was like the minor leagues pretty much. They're like college football pretty much. They're younger. They're only within an age span. And they are nowhere near as fast as the Breeders' Cup horses, right? Some of them are faster than a lot of four-year-olds, but the prime of their career, even if they're super fast as a three-year-old, will be as a four-year-old.
Starting point is 00:16:29 So who cares about pre-teens? Any of these. Give me the Raiders Cup. I'm one of the fastest ponies. Everybody's just scared, right, that if you get rid of the Triple Crown, that horse racing will just kind of disappear and do irrelevance. And, like, that might be true, but. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Derby go go wander around the derby and say hey name the triple crown races yeah they would say i think you're right but preak nasty has that right and then there's that other one in new york yeah belmont belmont the crown jewel that's what i'm saying though you put me on the spot just a few minutes ago yeah hey what's the triple crown i would have been able to get two of them i don't think i would have been able to get three of them i think all anybody think I would have been able to get three of them. I think all anybody wants is just like a lot of hype around something and then a good race, right?
Starting point is 00:17:09 Isn't that kind of what it should be? I think a lot of people would be fine if it was just the Derby every year. Well, those horse people would not be. No, no, no. We need to build the breeders like the Derby. I don't know why. The breeders should be before the football season. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Get it out of there. Exactly. First week in November. Why do they do that? I don't know. The people in charge of the Breeders' Cup Get it out of there. Exactly. First week in November. Why do they do that? I don't know. The people in charge of the Breeders' Cup have no idea what they're doing. No offense. I just learned about what you guys are doing.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I'm sure there's a reason you do what you do. You guys should be marketing harder than anybody else. You've got the best horses. Yes. Yep. And yet, here we are talking about fucking chaos. Seven horses. Talking about me.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. Who gives a shit? Give me the breeders cup. Give me the big dogs. I'm not watching the NBA playoffs thinking, you know what, I can't wait for March Madness next year. No. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I'm saying I got Joker here. That's right. I got Braun here. Boom. I mean, obviously, there's a good tale of a kid out of DePaul getting hot in March Madness. Yes. And making some jumpers.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And Mage, this horse, somehow winning in the middle in March Madness and making some jumpers and Mage, this horse, somehow winning in the middle of March Madness. Give me the best ponies on earth now. And that's the Breeders' Cup. And they only race one time? What is the Breeders' Cup? It's two days, similar to how the Kentucky Derby is set up with the Oaks, but the
Starting point is 00:18:19 Saturday card is just the best card you'll see anywhere in horse racing. We need four of those Saturdays. Just bangers all day long. All right, joining us now is, speaking of bangers all day long. Hell yeah. Since 1986, there's been one person present at the Meadowlands. Now, there was a two-year break that took place, but every other year than those two,
Starting point is 00:18:40 there's been a man with a fireman cap on. That's right. That has led the J jets fan base into a chant that led the boys to play the best football they've ever played you've heard it you've seen it j-e-t-s jets jets jets in every single primetime game that we have seen the man that starts that entire thing is a former firefighter out of Harlem. That's right. Fireman Ed.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah! Woo! The Pat McAfee Show. I love it. I love it. Fireman Ed. Guys, I'm a big fan. Hey, I want to let you know, I'm a big fan of yours.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Hey, there's other big fans of yours. And you have learned of a Patriot fan that's not the biggest fan of yours. We will get to him momentarily. Let's talk about you. Watching that video of you respond to Conor's disgusting allegations. I learned a lot about you. Since 1986, you've been in the Meadowlands leading the Jets chant. That wasn't when the J-E-T-S chant started, though, right?
Starting point is 00:19:42 You just kind of were a part of it and kind of kept it going. Is that an accurate depiction of your run? Yeah, well, we have the history of the Jet chant that we did for SNY years ago. And it started in Shea Stadium with Larry Mack. Larry Mack was a fireman also up in the South Bronx. He was from my neighborhood. And then when we went over to the stadium over to the Meadowlands, it went back and forth in the end zones. The real one was Dom Valenza.
Starting point is 00:20:13 God rest his soul. He just died, Dom. Rest in peace. And Donnie Schaefer. Donnie Schaefer was on the other side. He was a New York City police officer. So they used to go back and forth in the end zones. And then me and my brother were in the other side. He was a New York City police officer. So they used to go back and forth in the end zones. And then me and my brother were in the lower tier.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And after a couple of years, we were there in 84. By 86, I said to my brother, I said, I ain't staying here. This is dead. I said, we got to do something. So I started running up and down the aisle. I went on the railing. I go over the railing.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I'm hanging from the railing. My older brother grabs me and he goes, pulls me up and goes, get on my shoulders. I went on the shoulders, and my brother died September 8th this year, so there'd be no flying me there without Frankie. Well, rest in peace to Frankie, and we appreciate him making that moment even bigger so that we can all enjoy it for so many years since then. You have become synonymous with the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And did you know that that was going to happen? And did you appreciate that that happened? Because anytime you get that, and we experience it all the time, you're going to take it on a shin sometime. And I assume that happened to you as well. What has it been like becoming one of these public faces, especially for a franchise that hasn't been fantastic for a long time well you know when you're young you know you're just crazy
Starting point is 00:21:30 you're going nuts and we were doing it because we wanted to make a difference so we tried to do it in our our section and who knew that years later i would become i wound up becoming a fireman in 87 next thing you know i'm wearing the helmet one of my buddies had it when we were up in Buffalo. This guy, Johnny Cirillo. We used to have the green helmet. So I asked him to let me wear it. And my brother, and then it just took off. Now, you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:55 It was always about the Jets and the Jet fans. The Jet fans are suffering. Listen, Pat, I'm honored that I'm able to do the Jet chant and that they listen to me. It's humbling. I'm honored. I never take that for granted. The Jet fans have been suffering a very long time. We're wayward souls. We've been ridiculed. They've been laughing at us, and the fans have stayed true to form. Listen, we haven't been in the playoffs in 12 years.
Starting point is 00:22:25 We haven't been, we haven't had a home playoff game in 21 years. And we haven't won a world championship in 54 years. This fan base has suffered long enough. We've been, we've been in the desert. We've been waiting for the water. And Aaron Rodgers has got the water. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Out of the darkness with the water into New York, New Jersey. And the Jets fans obviously optimistic for the first time, long time, as you should be. We think it's going to be a fantastic fit. We think you're going to have a lot of success. Could you imagine world championship? First time, 54 years. You at the super
Starting point is 00:23:05 bowl oh oh j-e-t-s jets jets jets Jets! Jets! Oh, what a thing, bro. Yeah, hell yeah! Hell yeah, Ed! Could you imagine that? Over half a century? What a time that was. Yeah, everybody. J-E-T-S! Jets! Jets! Jets! Hey, baby, hey.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I love this fan base. We've been starving. They're hiding in the weeds for years, afraid to wear their stuff. The Jeff fans, enjoy the journey. I hope we can win a world championship. I feel we will with Aaron Rodgers. And I hope we all can raise that Lombardi trophy. But first, I want to have home field advantage, and I want to raise that Lamar Hunt trophy in our house
Starting point is 00:24:03 because the fan base deserves that. The fan base deserves that. Our fan base has been suffering forever, and I want to see that for the fan base. And I'm blessed, and I thank God that he gave me an opportunity to be able to do what I do. Hell yeah, and you do it to a fantastic standard every time. Felt like I was in MetLife Stadium.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It did. Felt like I was in the Meadowlands there. Fun road. And you know, if you were to lift the AFC championship, Trevor, the Hunt Trophy, you would have to beat a very, very tough AFC. The AFC is stacked, which kind of sucks for you guys. You guys get the first, like, really, really good, promising team, and it's like maybe the deepest the AFC has ever been.
Starting point is 00:24:46 But let alone the entire AFC, let's just talk about the division. Obviously the Buffalo Beals are still the Buffalo Beals, and Josh Allen is seemingly going to be the best version of himself this season because of how everything's going this offseason for him. And you talk about Tua, they're making him a helmet, and he's doing jujitsu so that he'll be able to play all season long. So they're going to be good. Then you talk about that team up north.
Starting point is 00:25:11 The New England Patriots are still going to exist. They don't have Tom Brady anymore, but their fans still feel as if they're winning the Super Bowl every single year. Where's Tommy? Yeah, where is Tommy? Where is Tommy? Hey, hold on, though. There's one man who thinks they're still in the glory days, Fireman Ed,
Starting point is 00:25:29 and he said a lot of terrible things about you the other day. Connor, do you have anything to say to the man that is Fireman Ed, firefighter in Harlem? For how many years were you fighting fires over there? I was over 20 years. Over two decades running towards danger. Not away from it, pal. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Going right into the fire. Honorable. Over two decades. You have anything to say to him after your disrespectful fucking comments, pal? Yeah, I do have something to say to him. You know, it's a pleasure. Real, real fucking pleasure to sit here and listen to you do the J-E-T-S chant. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I hated it before today. I still continue to hate it. I hate it actually even more now that I'm talking to you. And, you know, you said a lot there. Why don't you worry about winning the division? Okay, we're talking AFC championships. We're talking Super Bowls. This is what the Bills fans did.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Don't be like the Bills fans. The team that actually plays in New York, might I remind you. But with that being said, with that being said, with that being said, with that being said, don't you feel like deep down, underneath everything, that these New York football Jets are going to fuck it up? Don't you feel that just a little bit? And after all this time, after all this promise? You got the wrong fan.
Starting point is 00:26:43 My glass is always half full. Always half full. Should be. All right? So, first off, if you want to be the champ, you got to beat the champ. We got to go through Buffalo, and we'll win the division. We got to go up, and we got to go to Kansas City. We got to play Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Well, they're actually coming to us, and we got to beat Kansas City. The mission, stack the wins, home field throughout the playoffs, and the Jet fans will do the rest. The Jet fans will do the rest. And we'll take care of your New England Patriots because we owe you guys
Starting point is 00:27:17 big time for a good 20 years. And we remember the 50 burger, and we remember the celebration of Richard Seymour and the homecoming with Richard Seymour. And we remember the 50 Burger, and we remember the celebration. It's a big burger. And the homecoming with Richard Seymour. And we remember Bill Belichick, Clam Face, Chowderhead. We remember how miserable he is and how he hates us. We don't forget nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:38 None of it. Listen, it's got to be done on the field, and we're going to do our part as Jeff fans. And that's all we could do. Fireman Ed, he called you fat the other day. as Jeff fans, and that's all we could do. Fireman Ed, he called you fat the other day. Yeah, I did. What's that all about? I did, Fireman Ed. I'm looking at you now. Nah, Fireman Ed would ragdoll you. He would buffet you right now.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I never said he would. He would ragdoll you. And I would take it, and I would stand back up like a man. We don't know. After Fireman Ed gets his bitch on you. Maybe I have to go to the hospital. I don't care. Hey, Fireman Ed, what, uh, the seats that you're in for the games, um, I assume you're a season ticket holder. They help you out.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yes. Can we get him, uh, with you during the Jets-Patriots game at MetLife Stadium this year? Can we make a thing out of this? Well, as long as the fans don't lynch him. That's fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I mean, you know. Hey, he's a fireman, but I ain lynch him. That's fine. That's fine. There's nothing I can do about that. Hey, he's a fireman, but I ain't saving him. You have a duty to protect him. That's okay. I'll get a bubble. He retired from that. He did retire from firefighting, but never from his Jets fandom. Can't wait for you two to meet each other.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Can't wait for this season for you guys. I think it's going to be much better than the ones have been in the past, and we appreciate you making time for us, Fireman Ed. Hey, you guys are the best. I love the Pat McAfee show. Pat, you're legendary, man. When you go on that WWE, man, that just blows my mind, man. You are a athlete.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Thank you. Unbelievable. Thank you. Unbelievable. But listen, say hello to AJ Hawk. I love AJ. I love AJ. Hey, Connor, we're all good.
Starting point is 00:29:05 All right. Love you, Fireman Ed. It's just football. We're all Americans. We're all Americans. Hell yeah. That's what matters. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Thank you for your service to the community. Thanks for having me on. Hell yeah, you got it. Ladies and gentlemen, J-E-T-S. Jets, Jets, Jets Jets Jets Superfan Fireman How about it?
Starting point is 00:29:29 I'd run through a fucking wall for that guy We're all Americans I wouldn't But that ending was great That ending was great I will say He's a genuine soul Before the Jets
Starting point is 00:29:37 Before the Jets chant From the A.J. Hawk To the United States We're all Americans That was fantastic Oh, so he kind of put you in a blender there a little bit. No, he didn't. Just like yesterday you were in a blender. This is something that we're all got our
Starting point is 00:29:49 eyes on. As soon as we've seen Connor acting the way he was acting on this program about Fireman Ed, we knew that the other half of the graphic was going to come in. You think Fireman Ed was just going to sit there and let some schlub from New England Patriots fan base say what he said
Starting point is 00:30:05 no way i appreciate them piecing it together here's the video they ran for their podcast which i believe is the nyjf pod which is new york jets fire i think fans i thought but i'm not positive nyjf podcast this is the video that launched into fireman ed coming on the program today i'm a fireman ed fireman ed is a fucking seller i agree he isn't a real fan of stolen valor and even when wasn't he an actual fireman i was in new york city fire i worked up at holland it was engine 69 ladder 28 and the 16th battalion the holl Hilton. I had respect for Fireman Ed up until the point where he retired. Honestly, I had more respect for Fireman Ed because he was still Fireman Ed while they sucked. You respected me? You were 16 years old.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Well, what'd you respect? You're a Patriot fan. You were six years old. They won the Super Bowl. You've been riding it ever since. No more Tommy. No more Tommy. Don't be a fucking quitter.
Starting point is 00:31:06 You have to be there while it sucks. I never quit anything in my life. But I think I could make you quit. Oh, yeah. I was young. I still got plenty left in the tank. I was doing the Jet Chance since 1986. I stepped away for two years.
Starting point is 00:31:21 There was a reason. It had to do with my family. It had to do with some different things. I'm proud that I was able and still am able to get 80,000 people on their feet and rock the Meadowlands. I think I saw eight chins on Fireman Adam. You better come see me. You're going to look a little differently when you see me in person.
Starting point is 00:31:44 You don't want that smoke, Ed. You don't want that smoke. Hell, yeah. Rob Carpenter knows. Former NFL wide receiver. We appreciate them coming by. And that video, fantastic. Very well put together.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Whoever did that. You better come see me. Hats off. Oh, four chins? It was actually eight. I don't want to go any other way. It was. He was awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:01 He was. Yeah, that was fantastic. And I did like that he was like, I can get 80,000 people to fucking move. Exactly. No, you can't. Definitely not. So that was what he was pumped up about. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:32:10 That's how he views it. Hey, somebody's going to have to do this. Of course. Okay, back in the day, it was Section 301, 316. It was dying. You know, somebody had to pick up the thing. And when the next whoever comes by, Fireman Ed will pass the cap, say, you gotta keep it alive out here.
Starting point is 00:32:27 How about him saying, you get home field advantage for playoffs, the fans will do the rest. Don't you even worry about the plays. Don't even worry about completing passes or tackling. We will handle it. They come into the MetLife Stadium, they got no chance getting a dub on the way out, especially at the playoffs. Good for them. They gotta be riding
Starting point is 00:32:43 so high. But that conversation with him is a very real one. That AFC is deeper than it's been ever. It's ridiculous. Joe, Pat, everybody was talking about getting the biggest contracts, all in the AFC. The entire young cast of characters at the quarterback position
Starting point is 00:32:59 who are all going to break the contract record at the quarterback position, all in the AFC. That is tough for 10 years 15 years coming because they're getting locked down but if you're going to win the super bowl you gotta fucking beat everybody yeah and there are going to be at least you know two three guys who miss the playoffs for the next you know foreseeable future who are good quarterbacks it's just inevitable and that's why like when you look at the nfc you wonder if any of the elder statesmen are just thinking, like, hey,
Starting point is 00:33:26 this is probably my last ride. I should just start recruiting people over. Because aside from Jalen Hurts, who did reset it, and then Lamar reset it, he's the only guy over there. That's why I like the Rams. Well, Kyler got paid over there. Kyler did, yeah. And their overrunner is, what, four and a half games?
Starting point is 00:33:39 Crazy, yeah. Paid a young quarterback, and they're at four and a half, worst in the NFL. Yeah, because he's not going to be – they don't know when he's going to play. And apparently he's ahead of schedule, but they still aren't positive if it's going to be week one or if it's going to be like October. Eagles got to be pumped.
Starting point is 00:33:54 They got to be jacked. Niners got to be pumped. Yeah. And that's it pretty much, right? Yeah, after that, it just takes a massive drop. Like the Saints at nine and a half. Is anyone prepared to have the Saints be the third best team in the NFC? Because their division stinks.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Well, Derek Carr's got a chip on his shoulder. Yeah. But that's why that's so – Chip on his shoulder. Big old chip. Down in the bayou, Derek Carr, he was supposed to go to the Jets, but Jets said, we're going to find out if Aaron – Let's wait.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Okay, sorry about it. And then he goes down there, reunited with his coach. They got dogs down there. They do. Saints could be. You know. Both sides of the ball. A lot of these NFC teams are hearing us have this conversation I assume and just thinking to themselves, what about us? What about us? What about us? I'm very sorry. The
Starting point is 00:34:34 NFC, maybe that NFC East that's going to be a prime time, maybe one of them gets very hot. Maybe two of them get hot alongside the Philadelphia Eagles. But aside from that, if you're in the NFC and you're a fan, you've got to think there's a chance we can get there.
Starting point is 00:34:50 You can get to the Super Bowl, which is great news. I could be wrong here, but the NFC East might have, like, three of the top five quarterbacks in the NFC. Oh, yeah. And Danny, Dak, and then Jalen. Like, I mean, who else is over there? Yeah, because you can't put anyone in the Niners, can you? Goff?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Purdy? Like, in Purdy? That's a match to say in that. I think it's Jalen one, Danny Dimes two. Pretty clear cut. Wow. Zeno's head is rolling back there. He said, what about Justin Fields?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Yeah, what's going on? Justin Fields run all over the place. There was a time this offseason we didn't say it. People were saying, maybe you trade Justin Fields out so you can get Bryce Young at one. So that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know if everybody feels like Justin Fields is as good of a quarterback as Chicago Bears fans feel,
Starting point is 00:35:35 which I think Chicago Bears fans are justified in thinking. But there has been a weird media thing, like, since that happened, where Justin Fields is going to be the MVP this year all of a sudden. Hell yeah. You think everybody, like, kind of felt bad about everything they were saying? They're like, yeah, you're right. What do we... His runs last year were fucking unbelievable. But you're going to throw
Starting point is 00:35:51 the ball at some point. Yeah, he's a big dog, though. Jalen Hurts had a similar conversation. Sure, he did. Because from the first year, he was full-time starter. A lot of runs, a lot of athleticism, a lot of everything. And then the conversation last year going in was, if he can throw, the Eagles will be good. If he can't,
Starting point is 00:36:08 he's going to get fired. They're going to find a quarterback. And then he proved very easily, hey, you give me some of the routes that I like, I can put the ball wherever you need it. I think there's growth that's going to happen. I think Justin Fields is going to continue. At least Jalen made the playoffs that year, and they lost to the Bucs. Bears had the number one overall
Starting point is 00:36:23 pick. People forget because they traded it,. Bears had the number one overall pick. People forget because they traded it, but they had the number one overall pick. Got an awesome weapon out of it. The team has stunk for a long time over there. That's the thing. And he's had, like, Darnell Mooney is good, but now they have DJ Moore, who's not like a rookie, like, hey, they finally drafted a weapon. Like, they have an established...
Starting point is 00:36:39 He was traded for a first-round pick, so he's probably gonna be really good. Yeah, but still... What's your problem? What do you mean? He's probably going to be really good. That's a compliment in my book. Number three receiver, though. It's not like he's the focal point. He's the number three receiver.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Cole Komet's a good tight end. Yeah, Cole Komet's good. They lost. Talk a truck. Listen, I'm on Chicago's side. I'm only talking about how he delivered the Chase Claypool news because of how happy he is to be out of the Chase Claypool business as a Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
Starting point is 00:37:05 That is exactly what. Joey Porter Jr. for the guy. Okay. Joey Porter Jr. has not played a single down for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Chase Claypool had numerous touchdowns with Ben Roethlisberger. As a freshman. He's pumped to get Joey Porter Jr. As a freshman.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He did a great freshman season. He was a rookie. Okay. This isn't college, but I do understand what you're saying. And that Steelers offense is really one that if you're a wide receiver, you're pumped to be it. Exactly. Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:37:28 I was calling him a freshman because he acted like one, okay? It was interesting the way that whole thing went. Yeah. Because we were big Mapletron fans. Huge. Loved him. He was on the show. And then what?
Starting point is 00:37:38 He got in. Well, I mean, Juju got into him. Juju got into him. Got that guy out of town. Juju's in your town now. Yeah, but that's different. No, it's not. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Because now he's a Super Bowl champion. We have no young wide receiver team corrupt. And yes, now he's a Super Bowl champion. Yeah, you guys got Kincaid or whatever. No, you got a tight end. Who'd you guys get? We traded for Mike Kosicki. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I forgot about that. Yeah, but he's been in the league for five years. No, yeah, he's going to be no. Somebody just got either picked up and they're not even, oh, the Bills. They got Don. Don Kincaid, yeah. He's not even going to be a tight end. No. Travis Kelly. Bean
Starting point is 00:38:15 basically came on the show and was like, yeah, this is a wide receiver. Everybody's talking about us drafting a tight end. And if you're Kincaid and you're his agent, when your contract's up four years from now, you should say, hey, this guy drafted a wide receiver, not as a tight end. Yeah, pull're Kincaid and you're his agent, when your contract's up four years from now, you should say, hey, this guy drafted me as a wide receiver, not as a tight end here. Yeah, pull the clip. He said it. We didn't say it. He's the one that deemed it that way.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That's kind of what the modern NFL is. That's why whenever you ask questions about, you know, will the AFC be able to, will the Jets be able to stack up? It's like, you got a quarterback in a league where you got to be able to throw. They got a guy that can do it. Patriots, we don't know. This is the first year in their new offense.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Or kind of old offense because Bill O'Brien was part of the one. Oh yeah, and everybody that's on that team now is still there, right? No, no, no. Brand new offense. Yeah, yeah. I guess. But, you know, Mac Jones, it was the same offense they used his rookie year. Is it? Yeah. Exact same? Bill O'Brien
Starting point is 00:39:03 and Josh McDaniels, they were kind of the two that built that thing for so long. It started with Charlie Weiss. I'm intrigued. offense they used his rookie year is it yeah exact same bill o'brien and uh in josh mcdaniels they were kind of the two that built that thing for so long it started with charlie why he's i'm intrigued how much you change it you know especially with him going back to college and him running his own thing in houston well they were running a 3-4 or 4-3 on offense last year yeah exactly well matt patricia had the guy on the line i think for certain sets and then had him playing the space away from it well that's what's going to be interesting, because how much are they going to pull from Bama? Because remember, there was that story that Mack kind of taught Bill O'Brien the Bama offense.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Which was what? The Sarkeesian offense. Which was the Sarkeesian offense. Yeah, so how much is – Are they going to integrate that with this? And to your Dallin Kincaid point, that's what they're going to do with Mike Kosicki, too. Because Mike Kosicki, he wanted to get the wide receiver money,
Starting point is 00:39:43 and they actually broke down his snaps when he was actually tight end and when he was like slot outside, all that. And it was way more of that than it was tight end. All right, let's stay in the AFC. The Cincinnati Bengals are trying to work out a contract for their superstar, who is now a sex symbol, come back with long hair and a chisel jawline. Absolutely properly jocked. Joey Burrow looking to get back to the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:40:03 and also get a brand-new deal from the Cincinnati Bengals. Since Lamar got his deal done, everybody just assumes that Joey Burrow is the next one. They are in the middle of conversations. Joey Burrow has been a part of the conversations. T. Higgins, wide receiver who's going to get paid from somebody, came out and spoke and said it means a lot having a leader like Joey Burrow looking out for others during his contract talks.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I think we're in a new era where a lot of players are going to berow looking out for others during his contract talks. I think we're in a new era where a lot of players are going to be a little bit more hands-on in the negotiations, have a little bit more insight on what their deals could look like, can look like, and will look like. And with the way their salary cap gymnastics and structuring of contracts, people can get paid while allowing a team to get built. It's kind of the beautiful thing about these new GMs and the little loopholes that they've found in the salary cap world. So Joey Burrow being involved, good news for everybody. Joey Burrow with new hair, great news for Cincinnati. And I love this new generation of QB and new generation of contracts
Starting point is 00:41:00 where guys are involved in it. Hopefully T. Higgins and others are able to get paid as well, and the Cincinnati Bengals team can stay together. Yeah, this feels like the first time where it's not going to be something that maybe changes the whole entire spectrum of the quarterback contracts. It feels like he's going to obviously get a ton of money, but it's not going to be to the point where he's resetting it again. Do you think that maybe Joe Burrow is kind of considering?
Starting point is 00:41:23 It'll be some stat. Yeah. It'll be some stat. Yeah. It'll be some contract. APY, it'll be. Boom. Average per year could be, or new money in in the first three years. Yes. Will be newest, highest guaranteed will be the new thing.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Maybe length, too. Just go crazy with the. But you can only kick the salary cap five years is what Rappaport told us. And that's with Mahomes, yes. Yeah, they were able to do it. Because why do you sign a 10-year deal? Well, you can only kick it five years. So then you're able to renegotiate it? So I assume it's going to be long.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah. But also, there's so many different ways to reset the market in the way you phrase it and word it, and that's why the negotiations are so important. That's why I'm happy Lamar was able to get a deal done because I think they were able to lay out like, hey, you're still going to be the highest boom in this entire thing. You might not get the most guaranteed out of everybody,
Starting point is 00:42:04 but if you play, you'll still have the highest this, which I think we can all agree on is resetting the market. You negotiated that yourself. Congrats to you. Something that Joey Burrow agrees upon will be a brand new, but I do believe they're going to leave some room for everybody else, which is great news. And also goes to what everybody said about Joey Burrow,
Starting point is 00:42:21 which is like, he's an incredible teammate, phenomenal teammate, drinks beers, hangs out, takes the boys, still a guy, and this would be obviously the biggest detail of that. Yeah, we know Mahomes is probably going to wait for him and Herbert to get done, and then he'll do his extension. The Herbert deal is fascinating. I was going to ask you, are they waiting for Burrow so that he comes in below Burrow because he hasn't been
Starting point is 00:42:44 to the AFC Championship and to a Super Bowl, or the bangles wait for herbert and go more than that like you would think the bangles would want to get done before herbert i think the bangles are looking at jaylen's deal yeah that's what i would think and saying hey same thing same because he missed a year from being injured jaylen didn't play basically one full year because lamar now is technically the highest yeah he's at the top apy yeah like 51 52 joe burrow hasn't won an mvp lamar has won an mvp but he has gotten to the super bowl and afc championship lamar only has one playoff win yeah but that would like all these things can be utilized as leverage points yeah you know what I mean? Because then Lamar could easily say,
Starting point is 00:43:26 well, the team that I had around me, the team you put together, obviously you give me the team that they, this is what Lamar's agents, well, Lamar's mom and Lamar are saying, and people around him. Well, if you give us that team with an MVP player that he has won MVP,
Starting point is 00:43:41 we're probably able to get to the AFC championship. Now, if you're Joey Burrow's people, you say, hey, all we do is win whenever I'm playing. And that is the only thing that matters. I'll win an MVP over the next four years probably. For sure. Over the next three years. So that's that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:43:54 But it will be interesting to see where it's slotted. Is it the MVP that Lamar has that is so important? Is it the distance that Jalen Hurts was able to make it as a young quarterback to the Super Bowl and lose? Just like Joe Burrow. Is that what it is? It'll be interesting. That's why the Herbert deal.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I don't know where the Herbert deal is coming in at. What do you do with Herbert, especially because they've paid so many guys around him? And obviously it feels as though there's no chance they're paying Austin Eckler, but they have a left tackle to pay. Rashawn Slater, which is now a very, very high-paid position. So, like, does Justin Herbert kind of leave some money like it was for Burrow? But Burrow feels like hurts. Like, that's going to get – that deal is probably going to be very sad. What's the Danny Dimes deal?
Starting point is 00:44:33 It's just kind of like – it's a good amount of money, right? $4,160 with the $92 virtually. Yes. And you guys are pumped about that? I mean, it looks – it's going to keep looking better as guys kind of keep resetting everything uh you know well we need to see continuous improvement i would say and just taking care of the ball but yeah i'm excited about it but you can't sign saquon because you signed him
Starting point is 00:44:53 i think we might be able to work something out with you guys like nine million off or something yeah there's no chance it sounds like seven million a year off it's like a 10 million dollar franchise he wants like 17 or 16 or something like that? I think he asked for 16. Probably settle in around 14. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe he'll settle in. For Herbert, Kyler got 46 a year.
Starting point is 00:45:15 And then Jalen and Lamar are 51 and 52. Are you giving Herbert more than Kyler? Oh, yeah. Me too. That's what I'm saying. So like 47, 48. So more than Kyler, but less than Jalen and Lamar. So this is the average per year. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like 47, 48? I'd go 50. So more than Kyler, but less than Jalen and Lamar? So this is the average per year, which is not –
Starting point is 00:45:30 I mean, there's so many different ways to describe a contract. Guaranteed money, three-year new cash flow, which is the actual thing that matters and all that. 52, 51, 50. 48, Russell Wilson still. 50 feels like the number. For Herbert? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:46 What about Burrow? Yeah, I could see Burrow at 52. 52-5. Yeah, because Burrow and Hurts feels like. See, if I'm Burrow, if I'm going to go up to the 50, like if I'm going for it, you're going to have to. You might as well just. What's a million?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah, like what do we got? Two million more here. But that's just like APY. If they front it with a bunch of guarantees. Yeah, the structure of it matters. But the teams know, like, when they report it, or it used to be reported, this is how it used to be reported. Only way. We kind of changed that, I think.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah, a little bit. Congrats to us. It was good work. We won't do that in the future. We won't. No, no, no. We won't be able to change anything else. Yeah, we won't be able to do that because the things that are being said...
Starting point is 00:46:24 Remember, it's this year. ESPN has direct access into my left else. Yeah, we won't be able to do that because the things that are being said. Remember, it's this year. ESPN has direct access into my left ear. So whenever they want me to say something or change something, they go right here. Not even into my brain. It just goes out. Like Tom Pellicero, he's plugged in. Goes right from here, out my mouth. Middle of the sentence. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:46:39 So my mouth, I don't know how they'll match my voice. I guess AI. They'll figure it out. They're all over it. Like Dudesy. They already got a chip in you. Yeah, Dudesy sounds like an AI, though. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:49 So if ESPN is going to be able to go from here to here, they're going to have to really work on the sound. AI Drake. I don't think they're worried about it. They got that locked down. Let's get some phone calls on the 500 phone line. 1-833-432-3663 or 1-833-4-DUN-DUN. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Bengals can kind of follow exactly what the Eagles did because the Eagles had to pay their quarterback and two receivers, and now the Bengals have to pay their quarterback and two receivers. And they were able to keep Darius Slayer on there too. Yeah, they were. But that's what I was like. The Bengals, like, are we already seeing it? Because they couldn't pay Jesse Bates.
Starting point is 00:47:20 What do you want? So, like, you're going to have to pick and choose. Kind of like the Chiefs had to kind of pick and choose. They were able to pay Kelsey, but they didn't pay Tyreek. Now, was that their decision? Well, and then Tyre Matthew as well. And then they bring in Justin Reed. They pay him the exact same.
Starting point is 00:47:32 So, I mean, there's a lot of things about being a successful organization. A whole new set of problems once you have success arise. How will they be able to handle it? I think Duke Tobin's going to do great. Yeah. Seems like there's a great class of GMs right now. You know? Veach is a dog.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Howie's an absolute dog over there in Philly, which we would not have said three years ago. No. We would not have said that at all. Duke Tobin appears to be a guy. Joe Douglas. Omar Khan. How about Khan working some stuff?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Bean working some stuff. The GMs right now at the top are fucking very, very good. The response, and it's been a response now since the draft and a little before the draft, but the response on Steelers Twitter yesterday after Omar was on I mean, he is absolutely, he can do no wrong. Well, he's a con artist, pal.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I do like that he has somebody else doing negotiations and then he comes, guys, we can get a deal done. 500,000 more, man. Yeah, come on. At one point. I love that he basically said, some asshole. My door was closed, and he came in. It was tough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:29 What a relationship. All right, there's some massive sporting event happening as we speak right now. Tone Diggs, one of the majors for the PGA, the PGA Championship, which I think the most fascinating part of this whole thing is PGA versus Live was a thing. And now it's the PGA Championship, and Live players are playing in the PGA versus live was a thing. And now it's the PGA championship and live players are playing in the PGA championship. So we didn't know if the majors were going to allow the live players to play in there. Now PGA's major is allowing the live players in there
Starting point is 00:48:55 because I think the star power and because the ratings. But it's a lot of live guys at the top right now of the PGA championship. You know that has to feel good for the players that were getting absolutely crucified by the PGA players for going and playing on the live tour. Yeah, it's interesting because the Masters is its own thing, so they can make their own decision. The RS, RGA?
Starting point is 00:49:16 Are you talking about the USGA? No, for the Open. Oh, over there? Yeah, so they make their own decision. And then the USGA makes the open for the open the decision for the open but this is yeah this is the pga championship like this has it in pga so we want to know if the live players were going to play or not but they did um similar situation kind of to uh the masters where you know we have one of the studs in the pga and scoot scheffler
Starting point is 00:49:44 versus one of the live guys right now. Currently, Bryson, the bison, DeChambeau, who has been playing. He's back. Terrible golf lately, but he lost 40 pounds this week. Just water weight. What? I don't know if it was this week. It wasn't just this week.
Starting point is 00:49:57 He did say he lost 24 pounds tonight. Creatine. I need to do that. That's what I need to do. I need to lose about 20, 25 right now, this baby weight. It probably feels so much better. But remember, Bryson was saying That's what I need to do. I need to lose about 20, 25 right now, this baby weight. It probably feels so much better. But remember, Bryson was saying that's what made him better. He became, instead of being like nerd golfer that has math numbers for every single shot,
Starting point is 00:50:14 and it's tough to watch, into Bryson DeChambeau, where he was drinking nine protein shakes a day to gain weight, and he started hitting the ball 380 every time he was driving. It became the show, the D-Sham show. And then he goes to live, gets a bunch of money, and then he starts sucking at golf. And then now the PGA Championship is back. He's lighter and playing the best he's ever played. Yeah, round one,
Starting point is 00:50:35 he was awesome. Minus four. And the course, the guys are, obviously, it's tough. They're all saying it's very, very tough. And it's very, very grueling and exhausting. But they're saying it's fair. They're like, the greens are rolling great. They said it's fair. It's not like, it's very, very grueling and exhausting, but they're saying it's fair. There's like the greens are rolling. Great. They said it's fair. It's not,
Starting point is 00:50:46 it's not like it's just playing. The course is playing hard. Bryson was minus four. Scotty is minus three. He's still the favorite at plus two 20 to win the whole thing. DJ kind of like Brooks Brooks won the tour, the live tournament before the masters. And then he came into the masters and played super well.
Starting point is 00:51:01 DJ won the live tournament last week and it's coming in here and playing really well. Adam Scott was up top minus two hovlands minus two bad days for the guys who just won tournament so ron won the masters he's plus six jason day won last week he's plus six windham clark won the week before that he's plus seven phil mickelson won the coffee thing he's plus five exactly his coffee beans um the one another story uh Michael Block, who is a course pro, a club pro at a course in Southern California. He was up there at minus three for a while, and then he hit one of the worst shanks I've ever seen on TV. It went directly right. It did.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He knew it, too. As soon as he hit it, he was like, oh, this is something that the players that I teach how to golf would hit whenever they're golfing. Because that's what he's doing. He's normally giving lessons, right? Yeah. That's why, like, PGA Tour pros or PGA pros are doing a lot of lessons. And then, like, setting tee times and setting up clubs and everything like that. Now he's playing in the PGA fucking championship.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Good for him. I was doing some reading on him, though. They're like, he's not a normal club pro. I guess he's won the PGA club pro championship 10 times in southern california so he's a stud he's 46 year old and he's dressed super cool out there he's wearing sweet orange hoodie today um but it's nice there's there's some i like how the masters was i like how this was when there is a mix of like some of the best pga guys and then or there's like two or three live guys over the top it makes the things a lot more exciting. Saw Cuz fall into the.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Oh, Tom Kim. Yeah, Tom Kim had a tough day yesterday. Not only did he not play great, he also fell into the. He went for his ball, and he fell into the mud. I was watching this live as it was happening because they're playing late, like into the night. Oh, yeah. It was like 8.05-ish, and I saw Dustin Johnson playing.
Starting point is 00:52:44 They were on ESPN2, I believe is where I was watching at. He goes in because he thought his ball was in an area that he could get to. He got interviewed afterwards, and he was like, this is a PGA Championship. Like, I'm not sacrificing any stroke at all. And he goes waddling in, do-do-do-do-do, and then right into the mud, deep into the mud. So then he had to get out of there, obviously.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Gets all the way out. They're showing this entire thing. the mud deep into the mud so then he had to get out of there obviously gets all the way out they're showing this entire thing they've had a iso cam on this man for probably seven minutes straight i think they were supposed to go to a commercial break they started playing music for commercial break and you could hear somebody almost go like nah nah nah nah they turn the music back down while he's in there he goes and finds a creek to go wash himself off on. Okay, he goes into this creek. He starts washing himself off. He disappears from the shot.
Starting point is 00:53:29 He fell in the creek. So this dude falls into mud, and then he gets into a creek to wash himself off, all live. This is all happening right on camera. Then he slips and falls in the creek. Then he gets up. Then he has to dry himself off, put his shoes back in, and then keep playing without having too much of a holdup because the delay is a penalty yep so it was a whole scene and then after the
Starting point is 00:53:50 round he found out he went viral and that's one of like i don't want to say like adorable but it was it was like an adorable moment it was found out that he went viral because he he's also he's only 20 years old he's one of like the bright young players on the on the tour uh in the moment like when he did find out and his reaction to it was, it was heartwarming. There it is. Adorable is a great word for it, too. Yeah, I got a baby now.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Wholesome, yeah. Adorable gets thrown around probably a lot. Yeah, but he handled it well. And you're right, my baby is adorable. Exactly. It is. She's beautiful. She is.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yes, she is. Got to sleep last night. How about that? It's awesome. Yeah. That is. She's beautiful. She is. Got to sleep last night. How about that? It's awesome. That's a really cool thing. Here we go. Shout out. Now she's off scheduled feedings too, so whenever she is basically saying, hey, feed me.
Starting point is 00:54:38 So they said that could be an hour and a half, two hours. Could be four hours. I'm like, well, she seems to be a chugger, so I assume it's going to be much sooner than that. But if there's a chance there's a little bit of a break in here, now we're playing the game. Now we're dadding and momming.
Starting point is 00:54:52 And now the baby's growing. Yeah, that's how we get the job done. I was always afraid to go off the schedule. We're still on the schedule because I didn't want to play that game like, is she crying because she's hungry or is she crying because of something else or crying because of this or that? It's a game. It's quite a game.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I was really trying to figure out what a puzzle. It is a puzzle. You know what I mean? Because you look at the face, it's like, oh, that's a poop face. Just poop for sure. And you're holding it like, oh, I just felt poop, I think. And then you go in there, no, it's a massive fart. It's like, okay, so that's a fart face, which is like, okay, let and then she starts crying it's like well is she hungry or she want a binky or did she
Starting point is 00:55:28 actually poop so now it's a full thing trying to figure out it's like baby charades yeah yeah it is yeah yeah no words incredibly different just acting it all up if she would do one of these she gets so like she's pretty strong too it makes no sense how strong she is there'll be a time where she like has her hands up on her face like this, and I'll go to put bottle and moth, and she will want to get that thing out. Oh. So I have to, like, try to get her hand, like, off of it, and it's like, no. So I got to take it out, and then I got to, like, I got to, like,
Starting point is 00:55:57 I got to, like, beat her. Yeah, finagle her. Yeah, I'm, like, working her like I'm a jujitsu guy. But the mom's kicking ass. Sam is kicking so much ass. Hell, yeah. Got to sleep last night. That's great news. Shout out to the nanny that comes through.
Starting point is 00:56:08 It's called a night nanny or something like that. Night nurse, I think is the title. I assume this is one of the most spoiled things that I could talk about, but this is a lifesaver. This lady comes into the house and I don't know
Starting point is 00:56:23 if she talks. She just comes in. Locked in. Downstairs. Boom. Whole thing. See you at 6 a.m. You got it. And then this weekend you'll just be able to fucking chill and watch a fucking championship. Watch a PGA championship, which is great for the weekend. The course is beautiful, too. Gorgeous. And it's
Starting point is 00:56:39 a four-season course, so it looks a little different than the Florida Caribbean courses. It's a little bit different views. We got new names playing that we don't get to see every weekend exactly because live is on a channel that nobody watches so much so that they don't even report the ratings anymore knew they how many people are watching we don't want to get i don't know why not you can't just go and check you know the seven o'clock penn and teller and kind of back into it you know yeah what's the lead in yeah yeah you just look up the nutrisystem infomercial it came on it was so smart the list of shows that that came on with two holes left when com smith
Starting point is 00:57:10 yeah that's absurd yeah one tree hill is the pennanteller for us is it that show um i i forget the exact name of it but that's what came on in new york uh on cw i've watched a lot of the fool shows season nine episode one i believe it's good magicians come into the pennanteller studio what came on in New York on CW. I've watched a lot of the Fool Us shows. Season 9, Episode 1, I believe. It's good. Magicians come into the Penn & Teller studio. Theater in thing. Yeah, they have to fool Penn & Teller. Good luck. Well, that's the thing. You get a trophy. It says
Starting point is 00:57:36 F you because you fooled us or whatever. It's in front of studio audience. It's in front of a theater of people. And at the end of the trick, Penn and Teller will talk to the magician and basically drop hints that they knew what the fuck the guy did or the woman did. Sure.
Starting point is 00:57:51 There was a magician named Frank in the 70s that used to do this trick that was like, boom, and the magician that just did the trick would be like, yup, they know exactly what I did. But the theater has no idea. It's actually a great show. There's some hack magicians that come through there, and you kind of got to just deal with
Starting point is 00:58:09 it because there's a lot to kind of come through. Yeah. But it's a very good show. And I have turned that on. That's on CW, it sounds like. Yeah. So I've gone to CW for something. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:18 But I have not done it for live yet. I'm a terrible sports dude. How many times have they been fooled? Have you seen it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah. So there are some awesome magicians.
Starting point is 00:58:28 There's been a couple give and takes where, yeah, she's the host of it. She does a great job hosting it. Does Penn always float? Yeah, because he's so short. But he doesn't do the talking. Remember, he doesn't do any of the talking. He just floats. Yeah, he's got great
Starting point is 00:58:43 charisma. He doesn't talk, but has good, you know, entire. Good body language. I'm a big magician fan. I like magicians. I enjoy watching them live. I'll go to a magic show if I have the chance to go. Just because it's a battle, like how'd you do it, how'd you do it.
Starting point is 00:58:59 The ability to trick people I think is a good one. So I think I like wrestling so much too because it's like what are the things that you can't pick up on that are happening? I think it's a fun little game. But, yeah, they've been beat a couple times. And there's been a little bit of bickering, too, between them and the magician. Like, there was a lady named Lisa in New York started blah, blah, blah. And the magician would be like, yeah, I heard of her, but this is a little different. And they're like, well. And then the trophy, but this is not that different. There's a little different there.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And they're like, well, and then they, and then the trophy comes down. Oh, it's electrifying. Yeah. They need to have that lead into live. Yeah. Maybe they, maybe they have a force lead into live. Maybe they have that during live. That'd be sweet.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Double box. A little, what do they call that playing through? Or just have them walk. Yes. Yeah. Yes. If they get a golf ball, go one screen to the other from different spots, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Chris Angel's probably working on it right now. Is he out of the, is he all right? Chris Angel? Yeah, I remember he was in the hospital. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:54 I'm sure he's good. Yeah, he switched his heart out for a different person's heart. Yeah, he was actually going to the hospital to fix the hospital. All right, let's get to a break.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So Penn and Teller are just a better America's Got Talent with strictly magicians? It is kind of like that. Okay. But not better than America's Got Talent. That show is so good. So better than like a Titans game. Have you seen AGT Extreme?
Starting point is 01:00:15 I'd say. I tried, I think. So it was good. Yeah. I don't know. Let's just keep it all in one place. This is like the xfl usfl xfl has 10 guys that have made it into nfl camps it was at least 10 i thought i saw usfl currently
Starting point is 01:00:33 at zero the league just started but it's gonna be tough to keep up with both xfl doing a draft now as well for the guys that didn't get drafted or signed with other teams and they got the rock it's gonna be tough to compete with. Big time. Chris Angel's back in the gym, of course. Wait, that's Chris Angel? Yeah, he's working on a new trick. This one's called saw a heavy bag in half.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Oh, shit. Look at that right. I thought McGregor just dyed his hair. And grew it out a little bit? Yeah. Is that right? How could you ever see it coming? Chris is like 50 years old.
Starting point is 01:01:04 He's got like 50-something years old. Yeah, him and Carrot Top should do his celebrity boxing. I do see his logo in there. Sweet. He made it appear on the mats. Hold on. This Jim is missing something. People say it's hard to hang a heavy bag.
Starting point is 01:01:21 He's like, excuse me. Somebody latch the hook, please. Done. Why is it on chains? He doesn't need that. Because he hangs from it every once in a while. Look at those kicks, dude. I need to see him and fucking Zuck go at each other.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I think that's what he's preparing for. Zuck don't want that smoke. And joining us live from Manatee, Ohio, is a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion. He's the champion of Ohio. He's the all-time leading tackler for the Packers. He's a massive sellout, COVID survivor, father of 10, A.J. Hall. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:02:00 A.J., how you doing, pal? Doing well. How you guys doing? Yeah, life is good, dude. You know, life is pretty good. What happened to Ty? Suspended. Mickey Mouse said no more.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Oh, somebody fat, though. We don't know if that's what it was. Corporate bosses came in and laid the hammer down already? Bingo. We don't know what Ty said. They wouldn't tell us the exact. So, I mean, it could be. We tried to brainstorm what it could have been.
Starting point is 01:02:22 There was a lot. There was a lot that kind of came to mind. So if we were to do that, we would never have time to do anything else if we were trying to guess what it potentially was for. But, yeah, he's been suspended indefinitely. Might never see him again, actually. Yeah, probably won't. He'll do fine.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Good picture. Good picture. Bill, thank you for getting involved there because Bill does want to be a part of the last time that this man has been seen on our program. That's a good call there, Bill. That's part of history right there. We will miss the shit out of Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Big time. He might also. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's at a bachelor party. Yeah, he keeps saying that, but he didn't mention it to us one time. So you can just tell us. No, because remember, we were talking about when Ty was going to get suspended. And then when he's not here, we just said, oh, Ty's suspended.
Starting point is 01:03:06 But we forgot he had a bachelor party to go to. I'm sure. I'm sure he has a big bachelor party to be at. It's okay. We know where he is. Yeah, it's an indefinite length bachelor party. Right, AJ? You heard about this?
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah, I did hear about that. Those are all the rage these days. Yeah, my parents. How many days, you think? How many days? No end days. Oh, my gosh we want aj and i went and saw somebody who's living uh a birthday party life right a bachelor party
Starting point is 01:03:34 life yeah like entire life yeah right aj what'd you say is this the same place i'm thinking about yes did this person have first right refusal oh yes yes okay oh yeah that's what that's funny you bring that up that's full circle what did i say early on like how long until this gets sad yeah well that's that's why i'm bringing it up is like how long could you last in that particular i think for me three four days probably is when i start getting a bit antsy you know to kind of do stuff and the wife doesn't always love it, especially whenever we go on the post-Super Bowl vacation and everybody gets. It's like four days where for me to kind of slow down a little bit. And then it's about two days where I'm good.
Starting point is 01:04:16 And then it's all right. All right, let's get to it. When are we keeping it moving? It's like, I don't know how long Ty's bachelor party is going to be for this indefinite bachelor party, but he might be back Monday maybe. He might be back never. Yeah, I really don't believe you because I've heard this before, and it was when my parents sent our dog to a farm. And this is exactly what's going on with Ty.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And I know that we can just joke about it, but no. It's been a really good run. You're a sellout. I'm pissed about it. You're a sellout. You're a sellout. You're a sellout. You're a sellout. A man that's never sold You're a sellout. You're a sellout. You're a sellout. You're a sellout.
Starting point is 01:04:45 A man that's never sold out is a man who's been a part of every massive sports movement basically for the last 40 years. Yep. An absolute do-you-believe in miracles. A guy who has had his fingerprints over sports history. I don't know how many Hall of Fames you can go into, but any of them that involve a microphone, this guy's going to end up in them. Absolute legend. Voice of Amazon's Thursday Night Football, Al Michaels.
Starting point is 01:05:10 How are you, boss? I hate to disappoint you. I know you are the new king of all media. All of my tank tops are at the cleaners. I understand. Everyone, that's why I wanted to come on, but in honor of the Hawk. Hell yeah. I see you. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Hell yeah. You got yours, AJ? Matt's got his, too. I don't know. AJ, here's the deal. Do you take the bands off before you smoke them? I don't know. You don't have to, but yeah, I tend to do it on here.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Do you smoke them or chew on them, Al? Yeah, you chew on it or what? I use them as a prop for the Pat McAfee show. Smart. Okay, I got two of them. One was for the last episode. This one's for this one. Gonna have to make another order. I'm not a big cigar guy either, but I do appreciate the fact
Starting point is 01:05:52 that you appreciate our show. You've always been way too kind to us, and now we're getting an opportunity to go, you know, sell out basically. We're selling out now. The show's gonna change completely, I've been told by everybody else. With apologies to Howard Stern, I've been told by everybody, Al. With apologies to Howard Stern, you are the new king of all media.
Starting point is 01:06:09 You understand that, right? I don't know if that's the case, Al. You're fucking Al Michaels, so I guess, you know what I mean? There's so many people out there. We're very lucky to do what we do. We didn't create this avenue. People have been making shit on the internet for a long, long time. But us having the right humans in one area, it's amazing how lucky you can get.
Starting point is 01:06:28 The group of humans that we have in this particular program and operation are all on the same track, work so hard, don't do any other bullshit. It's like, we are very, very lucky to be at the time we're at with the people that we're at.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And I think we're just trying to enjoy the shit out of it, Al. Honestly, that's all we're trying to do. There are so many brands of shit. You just happen to have a better brand of shit. You know that. Okay. Maybe the best. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Definitely not the best. Look into the face. Baby, definitely not the best. But let's not talk about us anymore. There's been a lot of that happening, both in the shins and pats on the back. So it's kind of getting tiresome. Let's been a lot of that happening, both in the shins and pats on the back. So it's kind of getting tiresome. Let's talk about you. Amazon entering its second year now. We got the Thursday night football schedule. Seems great. I saw you talk to Jimmy Trena. You agree that the schedule
Starting point is 01:07:16 is eyeing up to be fantastic. Do we know, though, because the ability not the ability not to flex like what are your thoughts on that? Is the owner's vote on the flexing for Thursday night football and what the schedule is potentially going to look like for you guys this year? Jeez Louise, get your voice. Pat, first of all, you know, we don't know how the games are going to play out, but we do know, you know, the matchups on paper look great. And, I mean, we get the – look at those first three games, and NBC or Fox or CBS, anybody would take those Minnesota at Philadelphia giants at San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:07:49 And then Detroit's kind of the it team this year at green Bay. I mean, that's, that's a hell of a way to, to come out of the gate. And then later on in the season, Baltimore and Cincinnati, they played that classic playoff game last year, the wild card round. And then your boy, your boy Aaron, gets two appearances. Oh. Friday and Thursday at the end of the season in, I think, Cleveland. So all things considered, it's a great schedule.
Starting point is 01:08:16 It's much better. The matchups are much better than last year. And now, you know, they've got to play the game. So hopefully most of these games will be compelling. I hope so too, Al. Last Thursday night football run there, there's a stretch where we all believe that humans like Kirk Herbstreet, who's been calling A games for 27 years in prime time,
Starting point is 01:08:35 and Al Michaels, who's been calling every big moment in sports history for the last, we don't want to say the actual amount of years, because, you know, you look like you're, he's got like 45. He's young as hell. Brain's still as quick as a tag. I mean, we were talking still got it completed, but you've been a part of every massive moment that the sports world has basically ever seen. And then you guys got 9-3 on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Then you got like a 7-2 the next week. Brutal. And like an 11-4 somehow the week after that. And I think us as fans are like, not only do we want this to be better because it's the NFL product. And there was a time where like six primetime games in a row for the NFL were kind of all duds. I think it was like becoming a little bit,
Starting point is 01:09:15 but Thursday night football seemed to have a little bit through the week or through the year. We wanted you guys to have great games. It feels like the NFL is trying, right? It feels like they're trying at least a little bit out. No question. Look at it this way, Pat. I mean, we had 16 games or we have 16, I think this year, maybe 15 last year. If you take a typical week in the NFL and let's say that no team has a buy.
Starting point is 01:09:36 So all 32 are going to play. So you have 16 games on a given weekend, three or four of them will be talked about the next day by everybody. Three or four are pretty good. talked about the next day by everybody. Three or four are pretty good and, you know, held up for three hours. Three or four are, whatever, they run in the middle average. And three or four will be changed the channel. So when you look at a 16-game schedule on, like, Amazon this year, you know, that would be your law of averages.
Starting point is 01:10:06 So, you know, when people expect a great game every week, they're not going to get it. Once in a while, you're going to get, you know, that would be your law of averages. So, you know, when people expect a great game every week, they're not going to get it. Once in a while you're going to get, you know, you'll get a terrific game. And we had some not very good luck last year with some of those games. But then as the season progressed and we went down the line, I thought one of the great games of the season, I mean, the storyline was terrific, was Baker Mayfield shows up 20 minutes before the game, figuratively, and winds up knocking off the Raiders in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:10:29 That was a hell of a night. It was a great game. He was slinging it all over the place. But you're right on it all. Go ahead, AJ. Al, I believe it's week four. Detroit travels to Lambeau to play Green Bay. Have you thought at all what it's going to be like being in Lambeau without Aaron Rodgers at the helm?
Starting point is 01:10:42 I feel like the atmosphere just might be weird as a guy calling the game. It'll be strange. And, of course, last year, that's how the season ended. I mean, Detroit was knocked out of the playoffs earlier that afternoon. Green Bay had the win to get into postseason, so it looked like Detroit had really nothing to play for, and they beat them. So you've got that going on. I mean, that rivalry hasn't really been a rivalry through the years,
Starting point is 01:11:03 but now it may become one, especially after last year with Rodgers gone. That will be a strange night. There's no question about it, A.J. You would know better than anybody. I mean, you were there with Aaron. You know what it was like. You know what it was like with Brett Favre. So this is a whole new iteration, and it's going to be very different,
Starting point is 01:11:22 and I'm excited to be there that night. It's going to be great. Yeah, A.J., you know what it was like with Brett F's going to be great yeah jay you know what it was like with brett farve allegedly yeah you know what i did play football i was on his team for two years you're right yeah yeah i know hey i know what it's like hey you do we've we're on the same team there well actually we're in the same game yeah there it is you know we're in the same it was the best seven series it was a competition for sure it's coming months but i learned a lot there but lot there. What are your thoughts on that entire aspect of this offseason? I don't know if we've heard it yet or if you've already given an answer
Starting point is 01:11:50 and we didn't read it somewhere. That's 100% on us. Aaron Rodgers to the Jets. Jets fans now. We had Fireman Ed on here earlier today. First time talking to him. He's fucking jacked up, dude. They are going to the Super Bowl. Haven't won a Super Bowl 54 years. We haven't won a championship. Haven't had a home playoff game 21 years or something like that.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I forget all the numbers. Greenberg literally offered off his house to Aaron Rodgers if he comes there. He's getting parades. Madison Square Garden, he's all over the place. They're ready to win a fucking Super Bowl right now. And if you listen to Packers fans, they're almost like, I don't want to say happy, but seemingly pumped to get past the Aaron Rodgers stage. That's a weird thing happening in two different cities, I think.
Starting point is 01:12:32 What are your thoughts on that whole reaction now? Well, in Green Bay, look, they've had so much success. And, you know, you've had Favre followed by Rodgers. I mean, that's, you know, hitting the lottery. So, yeah, look, there has to come a time when it's over. And it was the right time, I guess, for it to be over in Green Bay. In New York, of course, don't forget, through the years, and they always hype everything up like crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Chad Pennington was going to be the next Joe Namath. Ken O'Brien got drafted back in the early 80s. You had Mark Sanchez who came came in he was going to be the anointed one and people forget i mean that the jets actually did get to back-to-back afc championship games so it hasn't been you know all garbage for them over the past number of years even though the last decade has not been good but obviously with the young guys that they had last year with robert salad you know now in his, I think, third year as the head coach, I think he'll do a great job and he has done a great job.
Starting point is 01:13:29 And Aaron comes in. The great thing about it is that there's so much focus and so much attention paid to it. And that's what the NFL has become. You and I both know and A.J. knows that the amazing thing to me about the NFL is how it stays in the forefront 365 days a year. Thank God. Amen.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hey, by the way, I got to say one other thing, though. You know what I've been doing all offseason? I am addicted to hockey. I always have been. Hey. Do you have any idea what happened last night in Raleigh, North Carolina?
Starting point is 01:14:02 Sixth longest game in NHL history, Al. in Raleigh, North Carolina. Sixth longest game in NHL history, Al. Only, and I was rooting for them not to score at the end of the seventh period so I could get an eighth period. I mean, I'm lying in bed. At least I'm on the West Coast. It's 11 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:14:15 It's two o'clock in the morning in Raleigh. There is nothing. There is nothing like the Stanley Cup playoffs in hockey. I'm immersed. Al, you said you weren't a fan. So obviously you are a massive part of hockey history. But you're saying you haven't been an NHL follower until recently because we're from Pittsburgh, so I'm a massive Penguins fan.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Penguins have been good pretty much my entire life. So I've been dialed in in the NHL playoffs, Al. Fucking car crashes, Olympic-like death-defying things happening on ice skates, on ice in the town is insane. It's fantastic. Have you always been into the NHL, and who's your team? My father took me to my first game at Madison Square Garden when I was six years old, right? And I fell in love with the sport. I fell in love with baseball. My father was a sports fan. I saw Frank Gifford play as a kid and then worked with him for 12 years. So hockey, I've always loved hockey. And the reason I got to do the hockey in Lake Placid was I was the only guy on that staff with Jim McKay and Howard Cosell and Keith Jackson and Chris Shanklin and Frank Gifford. I was the only guy that had ever done a hockey game. I had done one. I knew what icing and offside were. So I've been a huge hockey fan.
Starting point is 01:15:27 The Rangers were my team, and now living in L.A., we've had king season tickets for 30 years, 30. I mean, I'm a fan. Our whole family is totally invested in this, and I can't stop watching this. And I'm telling you right now, they're playing hockey at a level that's never been played at before. And I've been talking to a lot of former players, current players, and they all agree.
Starting point is 01:15:48 The speed of the game is insane. And Connor McDavid, I don't want to ever say anybody's better than Gretzky. But, I mean, it's in the same conversation. This guy's the fastest guy I've ever seen, too. Unbelievable. Yeah, it's the speed in which everything happens, Al, that it's hard not to just be mesmerized by. I know, obviously, you've called games in the past, big ones. The NHL, because they got two new deals, right? You're with Amazon. Amazon has done deals with every network.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Are you going to pick up some NHL games in your next? I don't know. I mean, look, you know, all of the leagues are picking up, you know, new, attempting to renew packages or get into the NBA in particular. So I don't know exactly what's going on. Baseball is kind of split off a little bit. I think they have an Apple component on Friday nights. So every league is now looking at, you know, additional ways of covering it. Yeah, but you could go on.
Starting point is 01:16:47 You're in that realm right now. You could go on ESPN and call games. ESPN's done deals, obviously, with Amazon. Herbstreet does ESPN College Game Day, ESPN Primetime, and Thursday Night Football with Amazon. Turner, I mean, there has to be. Would you call games? Could you add that to your life? Pat, I did the Game of games 43 years ago.
Starting point is 01:17:09 That's it. I would end my career by trying to do a hockey game right now. I couldn't. At the Olympics in Vancouver, I was the daytime host in 2010, and somebody said, don't you want to do it? It's the 30-year anniversary of Lake Placid. Shouldn't you be doing hockey? I said, I can't do the game one 10th as well as Mike Emmerich. I can't.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Doc was great. Doc was one of the great hockey announcers ever, ever. We agree, but he's not around anymore. Pat, you stay in your lane. My lane is not hockey. My lane is watching hockey. Well, you need to know that we would love it. Everybody would enjoy it because of just that. Oh, you would love it. Yeah. And then I'd be driving an Amazon truck the next week.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Oh, geez. Nah, nah, nah. Everybody remembers how great you are at everything. What a fantastic shot from the ice. Oh, my God. Look at the hair. Unreal. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I've got to get that hair back. And that TV. Two the hair. Unreal. Look at that. I got to get that hair back. And that TV. Two of them. Oh. Look at that Coke can. Oh, that is nice. Look at that. That was back when they used to use actual sugar, right?
Starting point is 01:18:13 Yeah, that's right. And like. Actual cocaine. Cocaine in there, too, right? Hey, Coke. Cocaine in that Coke can right there. Right. You know, that's before one of the games.
Starting point is 01:18:22 And the interesting thing about Lake Placid, too, I haven't told this story very often, is that Eric Heiden was the big star there before the hockey team, you know, overwhelmed everything. And Eric was supposed to win five gold medals in speed skating, and he did. And then so Eric won his fifth, and he can't get into the Soviet game on Friday at 5 o'clock, the next to last game.
Starting point is 01:18:44 So Ken Dryden, the great goalie who was my partner, and I had to sneak him in to the arena and put him on a chair on our broadcast platform. And that's how the man who won five gold medals got to see the U.S. Soviet game. Hey, look at you,
Starting point is 01:18:59 a smuggler. Unreal. Look at you. That's what I'm talking about. I was smuggling an Olympian. What a time. What a call. It still gets played literally every single time international activities are talked about. Speaking of, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Al, with the increase in
Starting point is 01:19:15 international games in the NFL, and obviously now there's two in Germany. I think they got five in London this year. Do you foresee maybe calling one of those? I don't know if Amazon has any sort of deal, but maybe they do go over, get a game exclusively. And if not, have you called one in the past before? I haven't, and the reason was and has been is that I've always done prime time.
Starting point is 01:19:36 So prime time in the east is middle of the morning, you know, 3 o'clock in the morning in Munich or Barcelona or wherever they're going to play a game. So it never matched up. Remember, those games would have to come on here like at 6. They do it like 9.30 in the morning Eastern time, 6.30 Pacific time. So because of that, it's not to say we can't do one down the line, but, I mean, if you're going to play those games at that time,
Starting point is 01:20:05 it has to be a daytime game in the United States. So it's a Black Friday game. Boom. That would have to be. Make the Black Friday game an international game. Bang. Add a second game that is the international game. Now we're going all day.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Yeah, Al, you missed Thanksgiving now. Good for you. No big deal. You get to be over there in Germany. No problem. Go to a cafeteria the night before, you know, in New York. Who do we know that lives in New York that can host me that night? Are you excited for the box? Pat, come on in.
Starting point is 01:20:30 No, no, no. I'm an Indy. I'm not in New York. Sorry about it. Got turkey. No mashed potatoes. All this stuffing. That's a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:20:38 You going to the 500 next week? I'll be in Indy. I'll be here in Indianapolis, yeah. You've been to the 500, right? Yes, yes. Oh, yeah. I've been in the infield. I've been in the thing. I've had a car in the race Indianapolis, yeah. You've been to the 500, right? Yes, yes. Oh, yeah, I've been in the infield. I've been in the thing. I've had a car in the race.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Oh, yeah, I've been in the parking lot. I've been in the parking lot. I mean, it's a good time. Are you going? No way. You traveling out for the – Not this year. I mean, last year, I hosted it like in 99, 2000, 2001.
Starting point is 01:21:01 I went as a spectator back in the 70s when I was doing the Cincinnati Reds, and my wife and I drove up to go to the race. And then last year, Greg Penske of the Penske family, a great pal, so I went back with him, had a fantastic time. He owns the track, right? I talk about Stanley Cup hockey, but to me, people say, what's one event I should see if I haven't seen it? And I say the Indianapolis 500.
Starting point is 01:21:23 I think the start of that race is as exhilarating as anything in sports. I mean, 33 cars, three abreast, coming down to 220 miles an hour. Whew. That is chilling. Yeah, there you go. That is, they're strapping themselves to rockets. Yes. And then just going around.
Starting point is 01:21:44 That's exactly right. This massive track. It is huge. So large. In Indianapolis. It is in Indianapolis. 300,000 people come into Indiana for the race every single year. It is a massive to-do.
Starting point is 01:21:57 And I think, you know, a lot of people say, like, who's your hospitality? I would assume that comes from so many people coming into our city. Because we have a lot of conventions here. VCon is literally here right now. Mecham Auctions is happening here right now. Then next week, it'll be the Indy 500. So there's always people coming into the city and leaving. It is a spectacle.
Starting point is 01:22:16 The party that there's a full techno festival happening within the track during the race, and nobody has a clue that the race is happening inside of it. It is a full it's awesome. It's a little like the Kentucky Derby too. People show up for eight hours and a lot of people never even see
Starting point is 01:22:37 a horse. If you're in the infield in Louisville you might not see a horse all day long. So you've called Indy. Is there any sport you haven't called? Ping pong? You ever call like a big time ping pong? No.
Starting point is 01:22:50 But somebody said, don't you want to do the World Cup soccer? Well, I hate to admit it, but I've never been to a soccer game. Now, I like it to watch it on television. But you're talking about ending my career? Calling hockey would end my career, and calling the World Cup would definitely end my career. So what do you mean? You mean you would suck so bad people would riot in the streets
Starting point is 01:23:12 and say, get this old fuck off my TV, and you'd get fired? Is that what you think? Hey, in today's world, with anti-social media, they're saying it anyway, no matter what you do. No, I don't know. What are you talking about? There's no way. You're Al Michaels, dude. You do anything. No matter what you do. No. I don't know. What are you talking about? There's no way you're Al Michaels, dude. You do anything.
Starting point is 01:23:28 I think you. People love it. It doesn't matter. Even if you're terrible, if you came out and was like, yeah, it wasn't my thing, everybody would be like, Al knows. I love Al even more now. Al, you did great or whatever. Are you a harsh critic?
Starting point is 01:23:37 Are you really harsh on yourself always? Is that something you are? I always have been. Yeah. I mean, I want to pitch a perfect game. Even last year? Even last year even last year like all the way up until now certified goat hall of famer you're still having those
Starting point is 01:23:50 like yeah i flub this word thought you have to prepare you know it's like taking a final exam every game especially in today's world where the the the fans have as much access as you do. So they're on top of it to a degree they never were in the early part of my career. So you have to stay totally abreast of things. And you know what? One of the hardest things I find in preparing for games is sifting the real information from garbage. You know that, right? I don't say it. There's so much junk out there, right?
Starting point is 01:24:28 You got to figure out, hey, what's true and what's not, which is why, you know, to me, this will be my 38th year of doing the NFL. At least I built up all these fantastic contacts. So I would have to call somebody to say, hey, is this true? Tell me about this. How is this shaded? I can do that.
Starting point is 01:24:44 And that's how I get most of my information. So whenever people said that you seem like you weren't as interested in these games last year, I assume that pissed you off. I thought a lot of people didn't understand what was going on. I thought that I have a great feel. I think since as a six yearold watching games, being a fan, I can feel where a game is and I'm not going to oversell a game to you. That's wrong. I can't come on the air yelling and hollering and screaming.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Where do you go from there? And people expect me to be in rhythm with the game. And I've had a lot of talks with like Jim Nance and Joe Buck and my brethren about this too. Where is the game? And I've had a lot of talks with like Jim Nance and Joe Buck and my brethren about this too. Where is the game? You know, I've always said in a way, the game is the melody and you provide the lyrics. And if the lyrics don't match the melody, it sounds cacophonous. It sounds like, what? What is that? But the great thing is as a fan, I can feel where the game is. I can feel what the fan feels. And I'm just trying to stay in sync with that and reflect that.
Starting point is 01:25:49 So it's just a matter of the games. A lot of the games we had weren't very good. So if I didn't sound excited, if I sounded too excited, people would go, oh, he's just trying to sell this crap. No, can't do that. And I won't do that. And, you know, I think that's been my MO for almost four decades now. That was awesome.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Hell yeah. Hey, listen, what do you want me to do? Okay? It is 11-4 right now. Terrible game. All right, if a good play comes, I have to actually be excited. At this stage, I can't give away the lead here. What do we even – I love that because you saying you're the melody
Starting point is 01:26:23 or you're like the game is the melody. Lyrics. Yeah, you're the lyrics to the melody. Like setting the tone of the environment is a big part of it because we're watching a game with you. You know, you're not talking to us. We are watching a game alongside of you. And I think there's some people who are great in the booth who understand that. And then there's some people who have no idea that's the case.
Starting point is 01:26:47 I'm not good in the booth, to be and then there's some people who have no idea that's the case i'm not good in the booth to be honest with you because i start getting bored like all right this play i start getting a little bit bored i start getting a bit antsy i'm not supposed to be doing commentary over games tried it in a couple different facets i don't enjoy it i don't like it and i don't think it's but you are literally the greatest of all time at it so you spilling that game there to the entire world, I think there's going to be a lot of future commentators that just take your answer you just gave and be like, all right, here's how it actually works as opposed to it all. Because the world needs it right now and a better voice.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Well, you can't please everybody. There are a lot of people in the audience who want you to stream the game at them to get it you know all hyped up and excited about the game but you know there are some people who do it that way they holler the game at you they yell the game you're right from the get-go if you start yelling at the beginning of the game where are you going from there if you're up here at the beginning of a game where do you go i mean the game starts it's almost like a fight a prize fight the boxing match where most of the guys come into the ring and they feel each other out and you have to i've called a lot of boxing or i did in the 80s and 70s and you know
Starting point is 01:27:58 they're feeling each other out and you kind of you know slowly work into it now the one one-off to that was i did hagg-Hearns in 1985, when the two guys just came into the middle of the ring and started to kill each other. Which we love. So that was, wow, nobody could warm up. They weren't warming up. I couldn't warm up.
Starting point is 01:28:15 And that was, you know, the craziest round maybe in the history of 20th century boxing. So, you know, you reflect what the moment is. That's what I try to do. You don't always hit it. You know, you don't always hit it the right way necessarily but that is kind of like my philosophy of how to how to broadcast a game hell yeah thank you for the knowledge there go ahead aj how did you enjoy uh calling boxing matches and how does that like kind of that rhythm how does that differ from calling say a football game game? Yeah, it does because it's constant.
Starting point is 01:28:48 I mean, football is a different animal because in football, you know, as everybody knows, you guys certainly, you've got, you know, four, five, six seconds of action. And then there is normally, unless, you know, it's a hurry up offense, a lot, you know, maybe a half a minute of no action, which are covered by, is covered by replays and analysis and all of that. So it's very different. Boxing is continuous. Boxing is like hockey. It's continuous. So there's a different rhythm to that than there is to football. Football is a burst of action and then inaction covered by replays for the most part. Boxing, hockey, the sports that really don't stop except for a whistle or the end of a round, different. So the pattern is different. The rhythm is different. Certainly, I love doing boxing in the 80s, in the early 80s.
Starting point is 01:29:37 But, I mean, most of the fights, as I say, would start out there pairing. They're trying to feel each other out in the first round. But Hagler-Hearns was ridiculous. Yeah, I like whenever two. That was as excited as I could ever get. I like when two fighters go and just say, you know what, let's do this. Throw it out. We're not here for a long time.
Starting point is 01:29:54 We're here for a good time. Let's get after it. What was it like calling with Herbie? You know, like, obviously, is that different than, you know, anybody else that you're in? Because he's 27 years, he was like, he is the guy in college football. But he's making his first kind of entry into a league that you've been doing for how many years did you say you've been doing in the NFL for?
Starting point is 01:30:14 Well, this will be 38. 38 years. So what was it like with Herbie? What were your thoughts going into the year, what it would be like? And what did you kind of realize throughout the season? The one thing I knew is this guy was unbelievably prepared. And you know him, you know, very, very well. He's an animal.
Starting point is 01:30:31 How he was able to do what he did last year, it's not human. I mean, doing our game, getting on a plane, flying to Billings, Montana or Missoula, wherever the hell he went after one of our games, meetings on Friday, getting up at the crack of dawn on Saturday, doing the game day show, flying to Tuscaloosa or Austin, doing the game that night. I don't know how the guy did it. Dull.
Starting point is 01:30:53 I don't know. He's dull. But, I mean, I thought the one thing, and I thought, you know, as the year progressed, you know, you don't start out at the highest level you're going to be at. You hope not. You hope there's room for improvement. And I thought we melded a lot better as the season went on,
Starting point is 01:31:08 and the games got better too. And the great thing about Kirk is that a lot of people said to me when he got the job, you know, he doesn't have any NFL experience. Like he knows football, as you know him. He knows football as well as anybody. And the one thing that I think people forgot is that there's so much turnover in the NFL so quickly that he had better knowledge of a lot of the guys on the roster than Tony Romo or Troy Aikman did.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Not to disparage them, they're great. But they've covered the NFL and have covered. Herbie covered a lot of these guys. Since they were 17. He's coming in with the rookies in the second year. He knew more about them than anybody doing analysis. So we had a good time, a really good time, and hopefully this year the games are great and away we go.
Starting point is 01:31:57 I know he was thankful to be in your booth, pal. That steak, oh. Top tier. Hey, your booth setup is the nicest of all time. You guys know exactly how to operate in there. You're a legend for that. I got to eat. I got the benefit from you and your crew doing their thing in that booth.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Herbie did as well all year. It was a talking point. I think he's learned a lot from you as well. So that's a cool relationship. Yeah, no question about it. Look, the one thing about Amazon, they were fully invested in this. They wanted this package to look as good as it does on CBS or Fox or NBC or anybody. in providing everything the production needed, brought in a lot of the NBC Sunday night crew who did double shifts. Fred Godelli came in to produce it. And you saw the games.
Starting point is 01:32:51 I mean, I thought the production of the games was as good as any production you'd see on any network. So Amazon, as I said, fully invested in it. They wanted it to look big time, not rinky-dink. And they were able to pull that off. And we'll build on that this year. Hell, yeah, with great games, too, and maybe flexing to Thursday night, which is getting voted on by the owners, I think, next week.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Are you hitting them up? Are you texting? Hey, let's get on the phones. We need a yes. We need a yes here. Do me one favor. Do not flex out of the New Orleans at the Rams game. And I'm looking at this December 21st.
Starting point is 01:33:27 I want to be home for Christmas. There it is. Do not flex out of that game. Tone has a question for you, Al. Speaking of being home, Al, how was it doing Thursday night versus Sunday night, which you did forever? Did you like doing Thursday night better than Sunday night just as far as, like, not the games or the crew or anything like that, but just day of the week?
Starting point is 01:33:46 Did you get to actually enjoy Sundays and watch NFL Sundays? Yeah, well, you know, it's funny because I thought, okay, I'll have the weekends off. But what you do on Sunday, since you have that short turnaround, is I lock into the games being played by the two teams who have Thursday night. So it's kind of a different thing. I mean, with the Sunday night schedule and before that, all those years on Monday night, I'd have the whole week to prepare. You'd get in, like on Friday, you could talk to the home team,
Starting point is 01:34:16 the visiting team on Saturday. It's different because the teams have such a short week and a short window. And, you know, they have to spend almost all of their time preparing for the game. So very little time is given to us. They try to do as best they can, but it's hard. It's hard getting this whole thing condensed because you want to be totally abreast of what took place on Sunday, and now you're turning it around to Thursday.
Starting point is 01:34:44 You've got three days to take that final exam instead of seven. You golfing at all? I heard the golf game is top notch. My golf game, Pat, is somewhere between horrible and awful. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And terrible. That's in the middle or terrible? And I throw horse shit in there, too. Oh, where's that at? That's in the middle or terrible? And throw horseshit in there, too. Oh, so that's the. Oh, that's the bull. Okay, so. Hey, there's a lot of room, though. A lot of room.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Oh, sure there is. And I got a lot of life to live to get better. Are you kidding me? I took this game up in my late 40s. I came with every horrible habit in the world. And I still have them. What is it, 20 years? Brutal.
Starting point is 01:35:24 20 years? 20 years. How old are you? 106 right now. No, I don't, you know, go Wikipedia's got everything. Come on, whatever the hell it is. No, but Al, you're so look at it. Okay. So what year did you start doing that?
Starting point is 01:35:38 What year were you like, you know, I don't care anymore because as long as you're still quick, which you are, which I think is, I would assume as a man who speaks and uses his brain, that would be the thing that I would fear whenever I get older. Like I assume I'm going to lose it whenever I'm 40 years old. I'm like, brain's going to stop being connected to the mouth. I'm going to be in trouble. You are still quicker than everybody else on TV.
Starting point is 01:36:01 You didn't lose a thing. Was there ever a thought of that? Do you think about that or no? I'm sorry, your name again? Yeah, exactly. That's what people think, though. Oh, yeah. That's what people think happens every once in a while.
Starting point is 01:36:12 You can probably go for, what, another 20 years, you think? No. At this point, the whole thing's about passion and loving what you do. And I'm one of the luckiest people on Earth because I got to do exactly what I wanted to do as a kid. And I'm still doing it. And I'm one of the luckiest people on earth because I got to do exactly what I wanted to do as a kid. And I'm still doing it. And I still love it. And I still enjoy it. I still going into the stadium and watching the stadium fill up and the buzz that's created around the
Starting point is 01:36:35 game. I'm still a sports fan. I still love it. So if you love what you do, it's much easier. If you didn't like what you do or you do or are doing i would have been long gone by this point there's no question about it you have to immerse yourself in something and love it and i'm one of the you know luckiest people on earth getting to do what i've wanted to do since i was a child and still doing it a lot of people have dreams to do stuff don't have the talent give yourself some credit last question here from bruce al um yeah al i i know i think i saw you say that amazon was going to make a gazillion dollars on black friday i'm just kind of curious what your expectations are for that game and how fired up you are to kind of start a new annual tradition in the nfl america i think i said 18
Starting point is 01:37:20 gazillion i was going to make it up a number throwing up up. But I mean, to me, it's the number one shopping day of the year. And I think when Amazon got this package, they were looking at this right away. They couldn't get it done last year. But I think the league understood that this was an opportunity for them too, because that's the one day when I think everybody in the country on Friday has a tryptophan hangover, and you're looking for something to do. So if you're not out shopping, if you're not going to the mall or going to the outlet stores or whatever, you shop at home.
Starting point is 01:37:53 That's what you do. You watch the game. You log on, and I think that's what they're thinking about. They're thinking about not only providing great entertainment, the NFL, and a good game too, Miami and the Jets with Rodgers and Tua, hopefully both staying healthy to that point in the year, and then you go on and you start shopping and you get your Christmas shopping done.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Yeah, I think it would be – It's a win-win. Anytime you have people at home, it's not bad putting something on TV for them. In the NFL, it was the best thing on TV for like the last 20 years. Hell yeah. Stats. No question.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Stat that. Like the top 10 rated on TV for like the last 20 years. Hell yeah. Stat. No question. Stat that like top 10 rated things every single year, last 20 years, pretty much the NFL, that black Friday game, allegedly the Bengals wanted it to be like their thing. I would, I think I like that thought, especially with Joey Burrow potentially being there for the next 10 years. Did you hear about that? And what were your thoughts on maybe going back to Cincinnati every single Thanksgiving into Black Friday?
Starting point is 01:38:46 Yeah, I saw that. I don't know much about it, but I think there were a lot of teams that probably wanted to host that game. But I think the league thought that, I'm not sure of this, but I think it just feels big to have it in New York. So there was a rumor that the Giants would maybe host the Eagles. That was a rumor for a while. It turns out to be the Dolphins at the Jets.
Starting point is 01:39:13 But I think the league thought, we didn't play any games in New York last year. So I think the league definitely wanted a game in New York, and that seemed to be a really good fit for it. Yeah, all right, I understand. Cincinnati would have embraced that. Would have been perfect. Like three years from now, the Black Friday parade with the festival that would have been taking place beforehand,
Starting point is 01:39:34 it would have been fantastic. But another day with only football on, we're big fans of that. Just like we're big fans of you. We can't thank you enough. Good luck winning your eighth Emmy next week. Eight. Eight of them, right? Come on. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:39:49 I appreciate that. Well, good luck and go win. You guys, keep on trucking. Hey, you got it. We will. Take this out of the holder, right, AJ? What should I do with this thing here? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Oh, yeah. I'm sure that's a nice one now. You hang out with some highfalutin people. There we go. Oh, yeah. Oh, Pat's got one. Look at that. White owl. White owl. That's a white grape white owl those are good time ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 01:40:11 and aj hawk the all-time leading tackler for the green bay packers and then sellot ain't that right aj thank you yes you. Yes. Appreciate the nice intro. Well, you've done so many great things. That's why I lost my voice. Listing off all the great things you have accomplished. That's right. Speaking of accomplishing great things, this man that is joining us now was once on all the steroids
Starting point is 01:40:42 that McGuire and Sosa, Bonds were all allegedly on, while being an incredible crew team member for the school of... Columbia Lions. Ever heard of it? This guy also was a wrestler in high school, and there is a picture of him getting his hand raised after a match. So that's either his high school yearbook photo in a stage situation with his hand being raised, or he actually
Starting point is 01:41:08 beat somebody wrestling their ass to the mat in high school. He's a senior insider for the NFL at the NFL's network, at the NFL's website, and at the NFL streaming service, NFL Plus. Host of the Insiders and the weekly wrap-up of the Rap Sheet
Starting point is 01:41:23 and Friends, us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapport. Yay! What's up, guys? What are you doing? Are you getting driven around? Are you back there with the track? What's going on there?
Starting point is 01:41:35 Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, you know, I don't really drive myself. We have people for that in my life. We are headed to Preakness, actually. No horse going this time, but we will be in Baltimore today, at the races tomorrow with a couple friends. It's going to be good. It's going to be Preaknasty?
Starting point is 01:41:52 Are you in the backseat? Your wife is driving? Is that real? Yeah, no, no. We're not the only people in the car, so it's not like she's driving and I'm sitting in the back. It's not like that. So we have another couple that's with us. And the wife is in front hanging out with Leah.
Starting point is 01:42:15 And the husband, my buddy Ben, is sitting next to me here. Double date to break this. Yeah, Benny. Double date to break this. Hey, let's have a good time, baby Ben. A little Chick-fil-A. What was the order? A spicy chicken sandwich.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Yeah, it's nice. So good. Is there anything more consistent than Chick-fil-A? I mean, they are always delicious. Maybe the McDonald's. They do a great job. I want to say, before we get going, I've not had a chance to talk to you guys since Up to Something season very famously ended. I'm proud of you guys
Starting point is 01:42:47 i am proud ian we're thankful i'm excited it's really really cool and you guys deserve it yeah so it's pretty awesome good job wow what was that was that i i'm not sure still is everything okay you lose that? Yeah. Hold on. No, I'm okay. It might have got lost in translation there. Genuinely, it seemed like it wasn't. It seems legit.
Starting point is 01:43:12 It seems legit to me. I don't know. Did it, AJ? Mickey Mouse taking them down. Oh, no. Because he works for another network. Oh, no. I believe it.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Let me just say, I'll just say, it was long. It was a lot longer than this, but I'll just say I'm extremely proud of you guys, and you deserve it. Thank you, Ian. Love you, Rap Sheet. Do your friends know that your past history and how Jack did it? Does Benny know that you brought steroids, Rowan? But we do appreciate your kind words. And thank you for all the help.
Starting point is 01:43:46 You can't hear it. Sorry, we can just talk to Big Ben Rap Sheet. Yeah, we'll call you back, Brad. So, he meant that, right? Yeah. That was very nice. That felt real. Haven't heard a lot of that.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Is there sweet in there? Yeah, what's that all about? What is that all about? Yeah. So once people got pissed over being pissed about the show moving to a network, and obviously changing entirely and everything like that. Of course. I go, it's not going to change.
Starting point is 01:44:17 We have to do the whole thing. And then they're like, well, what else is bullshit? Is rap work going to come on the show? Is rap work going to be able to come on the show? Probably not. It's like, all right, bro. What are we? People don't listen.
Starting point is 01:44:28 The worst, dude. It is an interesting thing. But once we get to do it, everybody will see it. Everything will calm down. That's right. Everything will calm down. Well, actually, no. We talked about this yesterday.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Then we got another title wave. Yeah, the other side. Then we'll get past that. And then we'll all be calmed down. But I'm very excited still. Very pumped. And I was pumped to talk to Ian Rappaport just like I am every time we get a chance to chat with him. I did not know he was going on a couple's vacation down to Preakness.
Starting point is 01:44:52 No horse in the race. Preaknasty this week, though, only has eight horses in the race. Ian Rappaport or seven. Ian Rappaport might be able to race himself in the race. Bruce, how many horses? Seven horses? I believe seven with Nashville. Wednesday's tomorrow? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yep, Saturday. It'll be the same time, probably 6.58. But yeah, seven horse field. Mage, eight to five favorite. So we could also be looking at a pretty Mickey Mouse potential triple crown. Oh, geez. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Doesn't the Derby have like 18 horses in it or something? 20. Yeah, 20 plus. 20. I also don't appreciate how Bruce just used Mickey Mouse for the record. Oh, no. He can't do that. Can't have it. Don't like it at all. I think it was a compliment.
Starting point is 01:45:32 No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. As one of the most abusers of Mickey Mouse, that was not... No, that was not cool. Join us now. He's a guy who's worked for Mickey Mouse League for a long time. Ian Rapport.
Starting point is 01:45:46 Hey, R.I.P. All right, so hopefully the service is better. I was saying a lot of nice things about you guys. Just know that I meant it, whatever it was. Okay, well, thank you, Ian. We're very thankful for you. You've obviously helped us so much for this entire thing. I feel like we've tried to say that to you as much as possible.
Starting point is 01:46:05 The Internet loves you, though. You need to know that, Rap. You are beloved by our people. That's because of how great you are on this program. Let's get into another one of those incredible conversations. Anything happening in the NFL? Do you know of anything going on? You're in the backseat having some Chick-fil-A spicy chicken
Starting point is 01:46:20 and probably some whiskey with Benny heading to Preak Nasty. Is there anything going on in the NFL right now, or should we all be heading to a horse track? You should all be heading to a horse track, but there are some things going on, I would say, in the NFL right now. I mean, next week, so I'll be in Minnesota for the annual league meeting. Tom Pelissero is going to be hosting the league meeting, which is certainly very nice of him and his hometown of Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:46:43 This year. the league meeting, which is certainly very nice of him and his hometown in Minnesota. And the kind of original thought, I think, was that the commander's sale would be finalized here. 24 owners would vote. That would be that. That's not going to happen at this league meeting. So it's basically just the sale is not quite ready to be finalized. So there'll be an update.
Starting point is 01:47:02 It's going to happen. But it's, you you know 6.05 billion it's kind of a sprawling group um and it's a lot of you know it's a lot of people it's a lot of entities and it's just a lot um so i think they're not quite ready to vote on it yet um so that's one thing that'll be kind of going on the next couple days is the update on the commanders there i do expect the sale to happen but I don't believe it's going to be finalized just yet. Do you have to get approved? Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Wrap, wrap, wrap, wrap, wrap. Do you have to get approved to even make a bid, or can you make a bid without being approved by the NFL? Is this not just a formality vote? It's an actual, there's people on the fence potentially? No, I would say by the time they vote, all the questions will be answered. So when they vote, it'll be, you know, I don't know if it's going to be unanimous or not, but it's going to be a lot, a lot to a little.
Starting point is 01:47:52 All the questions generally get answered earlier. Right. So if there's someone who's sort of not properly shouldn't, you know, shouldn't be. He would never. They lose his voice. I did, shouldn't be. He would never. Oh, geez. Did he lose his voice? I did too. Right? Oh, maybe.
Starting point is 01:48:10 I lost mine a little bit down here. I can feel it. It's at the very bottom. Really? It's scratching. I wonder what his is probably because he's been losing his voice. No one's voting against it. No one's voting against the sale, are they?
Starting point is 01:48:19 All I want to know is if you have to get approved to get in. Like, did Josh Harris and them already get approved? Oh, yeah yeah i think they're already fully approved yeah that's what i'm saying so like what is the what is the formality i think it's a formality in case in case there is like there might be some situations where it might be split a little bit on who wants it sold who doesn't this one seems how would it not be unanimous it's good it seems it seems to be a good deal for everybody for them to sell i think so too so, too. And what he said was $6.05 billion. That's a lot. It's kind of sprawling.
Starting point is 01:48:49 So I wonder if the commanders and all the minority owners are also going through a lot of negotiating right now. I think that was it, Pat. What I read was that some people were concerned because there were so many minority owners and different groups coming together for this, as opposed to normally there's just one or two large groups of people investing their money. This one has a lot of different people pulling it together for this purchase. So they have to probably figure out their own answers before it even gets to the...
Starting point is 01:49:18 You guys got to figure out your shit before we start... Structured. Before we formality the whole thing. Back joining us from the backseat of a vacation he's on to Preakness alongside his wife and another couple. Ian Rappaport has just told us that's a sprawling thing you said. So there's still a lot of shit getting figured out between the commanders and all the owners or amongst all the minority owners of the commanders.
Starting point is 01:49:39 They have to figure their shit out before the NFL does the formality vote for it. Is that what is happening? Yeah, and I think there's a lot of moving pieces in this one too. There's, you know, Dan Snyder's variety of issues, which we've chronicled, I think, a lot over the last couple of years. There's, you know, how much he ends up taking away from that. And there's just a lot of issues that they want handled. So what I imagine happening is we'll get to like june or probably july or something
Starting point is 01:50:08 like that and they'll have like a special league meeting where this will be the only issue discussed it'll be presented it'll be voted on and then eventually josh harris will be the new one okay so they're gonna figure their shit out yeah then the nfl will formality voted through yes and like so basically where it is right now it's a matter of when not if like josh harris is expected to be the new owner of the commanders which is amazing he did it and that guy from pittsburgh congrats mitchell congrats and uh magic and magic and to all the other sprawling uh new owners of the nfl congrats on getting on in something that is up and to the NFL. Congrats on getting in something that is up and to the right financially for the foreseeable future, which is the NFL.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Speaking of NFL, there's always news. What were you going to say before we cut you off two times before service lost a go? Yeah, hopefully this is the last time service is lost, but I apologize. Do not. I blame my wife. You're on a vacation calling us. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:51:04 You're going to get suspended. You keep talking like that. Yep. Peep behind the curtain. I was reacting to that hand gesture. There we go. Oh, that's another hand gesture. That's a hand gesture you are not allowed to use on your new network.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Whoa, you don't know that? You do not know that. No, you don't. You do not know that. Well, I'm sorry, sorry. You're not allowed to use it a lot. Can you use it on yours, Ian? There you go.
Starting point is 01:51:27 There you go. Yeah. What was he doing? A shocker? What was he doing? Yeah. Was it the shocker? Shocker.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Yeah. Shocker. Minivan. That would make sense. Or is it gang signs? What are we doing? What are we doing? What is the hand sign that the route board's doing?
Starting point is 01:51:42 Like a ski pool? What's that super... Should I have her give you a sample? Hold on. Oh, a sample. Whoa. No, I'm sorry. It's a ball food court.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Here we go. I love to go around and just pick up the... Oh, there it is. Oh, it's number one. It was the middle. It was a fuck you. Oh, I thought it looked like the Illuminati three. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Which you guys wouldn't know about. Yeah. Three-month camps in the summer for the kids. Oh, shit. Which you guys wouldn't know about. Three-month camps in the summer for the kids. Columbia, New York. No, I also went to Columbia. Crew team. Epstein. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Oh, my God. Sweet rap. Is that the news? Is that the news? Was he on the crew team? Was he the guy in the front going, ho, ho, ho? Seems like he likes to be real controlling. No, he was an underwater submarine. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Anyways, I'm happy to hear you weren't on the same crew team as Epsom. That's good. We definitely would not be able to have you on the show. No, huge news he wasn't. Yeah. Oh, no. Ticker? Maybe on Ticker.
Starting point is 01:52:44 He's not. Maybe. Yeah. Oh, no. Ticker? Maybe on Ticker, yeah, he's not. Sorry about it. The other thing that they're going to vote on is whether or not you can flex Thursday night games. You remember, like, at the last league meetings, it kind of got tabled, and now it's going to be back for a vote. And there's a lot of logistical issues. For instance, let's say you're a team expecting to play on sunday well if you have to play thursday you need 150 hotel rooms in like detroit or something right um so like how do you
Starting point is 01:53:13 do that and so how much notice like these are the things that they're going to figure out um there is a chance it passes and then we would be able to flex games into thursday night which you know what year might be a little annoyed about this year. This year? If they vote on it? For this coming season. This is a big fucking vote. That's a huge vote, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:53:38 Alright. The answer was yeah. Please, John, I'm an Ian Rapport. Way to go, Rapp. Absolutely sell out. Yeah, you'd think that he'd have a little bit better connection. Hey, that's a big, that's a massive vote all of a sudden, AJ, because the reason why the Colts didn't have a home Thursday night football game
Starting point is 01:53:54 for like 10 years or whatever is because all the conventions come into town and rent all the hotels, so there's not enough hotels open in Indianapolis on any Thursday like a year or two in advance almost. Yeah. Because all the conventions that come to town. I do wonder how the flex. I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 01:54:11 But I assume there would just be like a year out somehow. Yeah, but. He's saying this year. That's like how many days? It'll pass. Definitely pass. 112 days. But even concerts.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Like, could you think if someone like. We just ran into it with the Hawks Celtics game in Janet Jackson. Like, if there's a concert let's say taylor swift is performing in kansas city on a thursday and she does the football stadiums then what do they do well so like well maybe they wouldn't flex that game obviously there's no there's got to be like they got to go no going in hey which ones are even okay that's what could we flex this if we wanted to okay then now what department's doing all that yeah because, because that's even more difficult. A lot of logistics going on, man. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:54:47 A lot of concerts in every city. How far out do they do it, too? How far, like? What is, Sunday Night Football's two weeks or ten days or something? And I believe when this first got brought up as, like, a proposition, it was either two or three weeks out. Sunday Night Football's not until week 14 or something, right? Where they can start flexing them, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Week 10? That late? Really? I thought it was earlier. Maybe, yeah. Week 10? That late? Really? I thought it was earlier. Maybe week 7. It is. It is. Patriots got flexed out, I know, but it was week 15.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Yeah. That was the Chandler Jones. Good news. Taylor Swift's tour ends August 9th. All right. So we're good for Thursday night. That's bad news, Joe. Thank you, Taylor.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Keep going, Taylor. She needs to add more. She made like, what, $1.8 billion or something. At least. This is just her American tour. She's playing so far. 1, 2, 3, 4, Taylor. She needs to add more. She made like, what, $1.8 billion or something. At least. This is just her American tour. She's playing SoFi 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 10 to 14 days is the flex window. Five times.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Gotcha. Yeah, and she does a world tour, too. What'd you say? She's playing SoFi five times. In a row? Like five nights in a row? Three, four, five. She's playing three nights in a row, takes two days off, and then two nights off.
Starting point is 01:55:43 She could do it 10 nights if she wanted to oh yeah yeah she is a beast like if she if she really wanted to she could probably do vegas and it would be a thousand dollars a night so i think beyonce made like 2.1 billion or something like that and on her tour on her tour international and swift made one point whatever billion it's a lot wow and then people are like hey ticket master what the fuck it's like that's big business there yeah hey i got half of the united states let alone the entire world i watched that documentary on uh taylor swift because my wife is a big swifty yeah i watched that was it good she's a dog yeah she's but she like they like they actually like show she lets them in like gives them access yeah so i we don't see any times where she's being a human, really,
Starting point is 01:56:26 and dealing with actual stuff, even though it's in there a little bit business-wise. She's in a burrito one time. No, yeah, you see her behind the scenes, but you see her work ethic and she's a savage. Yeah. She writes everything, doesn't she? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:40 She is awesome. Did you see the Selena Gomez one? Mm-mm. Because that one's on Apple TV. They give you the peek behind the curtain of her actually being a human. Those documentaries are wild. I want to see the Connor one, the four-part Connor docuseries. I hear it's great.
Starting point is 01:56:53 On Netflix. Was that the one that already came out, Notorious? Yeah, it's out. The one that was in the clip. His injury. Dana's consoling him after he got beat by Khabib in the clip I saw. I heard my buddy saw it and said it was good. So is that an early release your buddy got or the whole thing?
Starting point is 01:57:09 No, it's on Netflix right now. It's new. Oh, wow. Came out this week. Going to watch it this weekend. Absolutely. How'd you play today? How'd you play the golf tournament today?
Starting point is 01:57:17 Oh, I had to leave after about 14 holes. I mean, I think we were like 10, 11, 12 under. That's all. How many mulligans did you guys pay for and how many did you use? Yeah. Yeah, that's my go-to line. I bought the whole arm length worth of tickets of mulligans or whatever. You can use it for $20, whatever your wingspan is.
Starting point is 01:57:33 You get tickets for mulligans or whatever. But I don't know. We didn't really have to use mulligans too much. We had four people in our group. Too much, yeah. We know how a golf tournament works. Yeah, it's a scramble. Weren't you the celebrity?
Starting point is 01:57:45 Wouldn't you be the fifth or no, you, it gets booked in. No, this was a, our alumni outing. So I played with Bobby Schlaggs and James Laronitis and he, Ryan day joined us for three or four.
Starting point is 01:57:54 That dude, he can play days a stick. Yeah. He looks good. He doesn't get to play much. He says, but his way, like his first swing and his follow through is like,
Starting point is 01:58:02 Oh, okay. This guy's legit. And he's, he can play. So everybody else was boozing. You didn't get the booze. Cause you had to come do this. Oh, I was like, oh, okay, this guy's legit. He can play. So everybody else was boozing? You didn't get the boos because you had to come do this? I mean, yeah, most likely.
Starting point is 01:58:09 But, yeah, I mean, I was all right. Most likely. Hey, you could have taken the day off and go booze. Yeah. We could have made up a – It was perfect. Bobby came late because he had his show until 9, so he showed up about 9.15,
Starting point is 01:58:20 and he has a show at 3 on Series 2. That's the one you're going to want to tune into. Wow. Ooh, and he has a show at 3 on Series 2. That's the one you're going to want to tune into. Wow. Ooh, okay. General Bob at 3 o'clock, 30 minutes out, wide open, after playing in a charity alumni golf tournament. Appointment radio. I mean, that had to be an absolute blast.
Starting point is 01:58:37 We appreciate you joining us. We could have made up a suspension to say why you weren't here. Yeah, and the stuff he says. You know what I mean? Like Ty suspended from ESPN. Well, AJ, too. It could have been like Wexy finally got taken in and AJ was his accomplice. AJ's getting
Starting point is 01:58:52 deposed today. Yes. On what he knows. Thank you, Ty. Thank you, Ty. Man, gone too soon. Suspended too soon. He's not gone. I don't know. Turns out Bill's been hiding his bodies in AJ's leg and framed AJ. Oh.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Could be. Better strap some weights to him, Bill. Not just weights. They're actually in one of those shipping crates. What's everybody's deal? Packed to the gill. We're watching too much Dateline. Let's stop that.
Starting point is 01:59:17 They're in a big oil drum, I thought, actually. Some of these documentaries about how weird some of these humans have been that have gone through our earth here. A couple weird humans. Alarming. Well, obviously the one from Waterloo, Iowa, which same place where Ty's from. RIP.
Starting point is 01:59:30 Yeah, you see, like, what a weird – that human existed in our world, you know? I mean, the Blackbird guy. Exactly. Existed in our world. The one guy just got caught, right? Zodiac? Yeah, the Zodiac killer. Yeah, he's dead already, but they did say who it was.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Kind of convenient. Yeah, Dahmer, obviously. He's dead already, but they did say who it was. Kind of convenient. Dahmer, obviously, that was a pretty treasure story. And then AJ wanted to stay in the same dorm room. What happened? I didn't want to. Jeff Dahmer went to Ohio State for like a semester. And you stayed in his dorm room. Did you request his bunk?
Starting point is 01:59:59 Yeah, he did. I don't know where he stayed. But no, he – So, Lexi, Dahmer – I don't know if he got good grades or not. Yeah, coach, I'll go to Ohio State, but I need Dahmer's dorm. Yeah, Dahmer – was that a part of the recruiting? Dahmer is – Dahmer's an Ohio State alum.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Oh, yeah. No, he didn't graduate. No, no. Me neither. They call me a West Virginia alum. I didn't graduate. Dahmer went to Ohio State. That's right.
Starting point is 02:00:22 He was a Buckeye. Oh, my God. They gave him a treat. That can't be in here. Is that real? I think he played football for a little bit. I think he played football for a little bit. He scored a couple touchdowns.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Yeah, slot receiver. He was wired. He was wired, but he was tough. If you played tight end, I'd start to say maybe there's a trend to tight end position. Got to keep our eyes out. Lose cannons. There's been running backs in the back, though. That's got to be the defense.
Starting point is 02:00:43 Defense, though. I did not know Dahmer at one point was like, oh, wait. Oh. You know what I mean? I'm not saying it again. That's Dahmer Tower? Yep. Yeah, now it's called that.
Starting point is 02:00:57 That's where I lived, Moral Tower. That's where Dahmer was. That's right. Was he? That's where he actually started to come up with ideas. I don't think I knew it at the time when I was in college. I don't think I knew. Would you know if your
Starting point is 02:01:11 room, yeah, you would know. Was your room any of these ones that we see like little jail cell windows in? I mean, that's all the rooms. I was like on the 13th or 17th floor up there with my house. There's no 13th floor. There's no penthouses in that thing. Well, Dahmer took it out.
Starting point is 02:01:27 It's kind of the fence. Dahmer had the penthouse. And with what he did, they said, this was probably the leading factor. Jeff, hey. Oh, Dahmer went to Ohio State. Proud Buckeye alum. Oh, my.
Starting point is 02:01:44 This is an article. We did not make this. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Pretty crazy. Did he really live in Morrill Tower there? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:51 Same room as you, dude. What room would that have been? Don't you tell us. 13th floor, 12th floor? I don't remember. Those are the things, yeah, like I don't remember. Dahmer actually said on his way out, L-H, when they said, what are your last words? That makes sense now.
Starting point is 02:02:08 That makes sense. Did anyone give it back to him? Yeah, his parents gave it. There was a guy, I guess there was a guy in Oklahoma who was obviously about to get executed. He did something terrible, of course. And I only know this because we got an Oklahoma player on our team, and we had just beat Oklahoma a couple years ago.
Starting point is 02:02:28 So I was like, Oklahoma, people don't even care about Oklahoma. You know, like nobody gives a fuck about Oklahoma. Like, just shit talk. I'm a shit-talking human. And then the guy that came from Oklahoma was like, put an article in my face. He was like, what was that guy's final fucking words? Guy said, boomer.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Boomer. And then they killed him. That's literally the last thing heer and then they killed him that's literally the last thing he said then they took him out and we do not know if sooner was ever responded but there are some people that are loyal till the final moment of their life to their schools and i did not know dahmer was like that with ohio state there was something i just read and i don't know if this maybe was sent the group. There's like a famous saying that was basically coined by some guy on death row right before he was about to die.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Jeez Louise. Nick, correct me if I'm, there was a Steelers fan who was getting put in handcuffs and put into a car, and oh, fuck, I can't remember what he's, something along the same lines. He didn't die, though, but similar. What did he say? He just said like the wheels on the bus go round and round. For Jerome Bettis?
Starting point is 02:03:24 No, I don't think so, because he, so because he almost fumbled away at Super Bowl. But he didn't. Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, but I think part of my heart problems come from that very play. I can't take up like when everybody was doing whatever shots. Vegas bombs. All of them though. Vegas bombs, Jaeger bombs.
Starting point is 02:03:44 I'm good now, though. I fixed myself. I fucking artificially fixed my own 3D printer. I could take them all the time now. Why is that? Because you got a kid now? I didn't know that was. What's wrong with your heart, dude?
Starting point is 02:03:56 It's too big. It cares too much. Dahmer, AJ, boys. Big Fiesta Bowl win. Good year, boys. There it is. Hey, Jeff. Should have seen him run a fucking seam route. Santonio should have told me he was right over my shoulder it's kind of scary
Starting point is 02:04:10 look how cool you look dude look how cool you look do you feel how cool do you feel right here so cool yeah just so cool donner breathing down your neck yeah let's go to the phone here at the same time they said oh you had a good game oh way to catch a ball what did you say here i have no clue we're so fucking cool man good job we're about to be the kings of campus bro is this up on stage this is before you get a trophy yes after uh the fiesta bowl my senior year did you win defensive player of the year or player of the game uh I think so. My guy, Regan Trophy, he was up there.
Starting point is 02:04:48 No way. He had like four concussions, though. And you see him up on the stage, and there's photos of him. There's a couple where he looks like super pumped. And there's a couple photos where you see him trying to figure out where the fuck he is. Lights are off. Fiesta Bowl did it good.
Starting point is 02:05:02 I enjoyed the Fiesta Bowl. Loved it. They did everything awesome out there. I think so, too. Legit. Like, hospitality, hotel setup, everything. It was, whenever we were in it, you did what, three years, I think? Yeah, three of my four years I was there.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Yeah, it was like a home game for us. It felt like same hotel, everything was the same. It might be the reason why I love Arizona so much now. Like, my first experience with Arizona was the Fiesta Bowl, and it was fucking awesome. And it's like, yeah, maybe this is the place. And now Arizona's the best. It is the best, dude.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Arizona's such a good state. Second to none. Phoenix is second. Have you gone in July and August? Yeah, so we're probably going to take some time off here because we have to do some more shit. Plugging shit in. Before next season. We can't have the. Plugging shit in. Before next season.
Starting point is 02:05:45 We can't have the same problems we had last year happen next season. No. We have to be ineptitude at the highest order. And although we do have that happening, we have to fix it. So at some point in the summer, there will be a time where we'll take off. I'm about sick of it. What is this, AJ? Why is this happening?
Starting point is 02:06:04 It's right here. I can feel it yeah it's got to be an allergy allergy situation nick isn't this horn supposed to be right here fighting things off fighting yeah evil spirits not you don't think well how many try a lot of the great broadcasters would drink their own urine sometimes when they lose their voice okay al. Al Michaels did it. We should have asked Al. That's a missed opportunity. I know he doesn't eat vegetables. I didn't know he. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:29 Those are his vegetables. Urine? Yeah. I don't think you're telling the truth. Same nutrients. We're going to take some time off in the summer, though, and just know that that's going to take place. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Got to fix everything. Got to make sure. Work on job a little bit. Yeah. Get some shots. Get some angles. Tim said the power's going to take place. Yep. Got to fix everything. Got to make sure. Work on Jabba a little bit. Yeah, get some shots. Get some angles. Tim said the power's going to be off for a fucking... Yeah, we got a fucking natural gas generator in the back there. And, you know...
Starting point is 02:06:54 Look at Jabba. What's up, dude? Man, that's pretty sweet. That's a sweet shot. AJ, that's you. You kind of look like Carl Havoc a little bit. Yeah, you do. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:07:02 Who's that? See? You need to start watching. Come on. Keep watching. I think you should leave. Oh, I mean? Who's that? See? You need to start watching. Keep watching. I think you should leave. Oh, I need to watch. I watched the hot dog episode. Okay, so next episode is Carl Havoc.
Starting point is 02:07:10 Okay, good. Okay. AJ fucking. Look at that. Is that Bruce? Who made the graphic up top? That's sweet. Dirty.
Starting point is 02:07:18 Dirty. Dirty, my bad. Yeah. But we need to reframe it because the ticker at the bottom. Yep. There's Carl Havoc. There it is. Oh oh is that the next episode yeah oh good okay did you like the hot dog yeah hot dog you let how about quite a turn there at the end of that scene yeah none of us got a scene coming yeah i mean the dude is so weird he's so awesome he's unbelievable can't skip lunch. I think the funniest thing about it is how serious he has to be
Starting point is 02:07:47 whenever he's telling somebody about the skit. I think my favorite part is not the skit itself. It's the him thinking of skit, having to tell people about skit, and then executing skit when there has to be so much discomfort everywhere, and then just moving right on to the next one i love them have you seen the motorcycle world one no oh yeah it's great that that's one of the uh ones i just recently watched it might be the dumbest premise of all of his dumb yes dude his premise was to dress up never mind i'm not gonna yeah let's go to the phones aj you need to see that episode.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Stat. I will. Believe me, I'm inspired by what I've seen so far. There's the motorcycle aliens one. Oh, that one? Yeah. Oh, all right. It's so good.
Starting point is 02:08:39 I can't wait to watch. Speaking of watching, it looks like there's some rain at the PGA Championship. Uh-oh. Tell them what's going on over there's some rain at the PGA Championship. Tell them what's going on over there in New York with the PGA Championship. One of the majors is currently actively happening as we speak right now. Yeah, Bryson just teed off. He's in the deep stuff off of his first drive. I did
Starting point is 02:08:56 see the radar just a couple seconds ago on the broadcast. Doesn't seem like it's going to be around long. Doesn't seem like it's going to impact play at all today, but Scooty Scheffler came out, birdied his first two to go from 300 to 500. He is plus 125 to win the tournament right now. Was plus 250 this morning? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:12 And then it went to like plus 210 because DJ had a bogey on a hole. But yeah, Hovland's had a really nice day. Scheffler's up there, Bryson, and then kind of a pack behind them. Scheffler's too good right now. He's so... He's very good. He hasn't finished out of the top 12 since November 20. And you have to like him because he swings like you in the tee box,
Starting point is 02:09:31 kind of moves his feet. Yeah, crazy feet. Yeah, guys were saying that to me today. Like, oh, man, it's crazy. You're falling down, whatever. Like, every time you swing. I was like, well, Scottie made it okay now, I feel like. Yeah, but, like, that is a real thing because whenever you're in the tee box,
Starting point is 02:09:44 for me, I used to swing real hard, and I would lift my leg, and I would turn and move, and they're like, you need to keep your feet still. Rule number one here, don't move. I'm like, all right, well, my knee's going to pop out of place if I do that. So they're like, well, open your hips up a little bit. And because I'm not flexible enough, I still have to, like, move my feet, and I still – but they're like, if you were to keep your feet still,
Starting point is 02:10:05 you would do so much better. Then we watch AJ swing. And AJ literally leg up like he's fucking Sammy's. No, I don't cock my leg. You might as well. And then you hit and you spin and fall completely out of it. And he hits it so clean, so far, on such a regular basis. I'm like, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Like, that is, why aren't we more athletic on this thing? And then Scottie Scheffler becomes the best golfer in the world in literally every single drive. He's moving his feet completely while making contact. I love it. Feels like it's more momentum. Is that why you do what you do, or you just have always done it that way? I think as I've gotten older, i've started to fall forward more and
Starting point is 02:10:45 fall out of it because if my foot's in the ground that's the most painful thing ever i can't keep my foot planted and twist and rotate on that when it's stuck in the ground so i think i just naturally have always been doing it me too remember i tweaked my knee last year because i was oh yeah i was driving in air forces on cement and my leg wasn't turning at all so i was just putting myself in a figure four pretty much every single time. And then just blew up. And I'm like, what the goal? I got hurt golfing in my office.
Starting point is 02:11:10 That was bad. I'm an old man right now. I thought I wasn't gonna be able to make it to Tahoe. Like that was a real fear, but he's a player, dude. He's a beast. And he's so clean around the greens too. He's what, like 27 years old. He's still so young.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Very young. He's just like, yes, though, at. He's what, like 27 years old? He's still so young. Very young. He's just like, yes, though, at all times. Never, never up or down. He showed some emotion. Was that on game day last year where he got a little teary-eyed because he won? Oh, yeah. They gave him the award. They surprised him golf for the year on game day.
Starting point is 02:11:38 That was at that school that was awesome. Yeah. Texas. Yeah. Texas. I remember that. I was out in the land. I was out in the, I was out in the land. I was out in the audience.
Starting point is 02:11:49 He was way back. Oh, with Beard. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't really hear what was happening. Yeah, with, yeah. But I did see him. Yeah, we were out there
Starting point is 02:11:55 with Beard. Yep. And, and Bear, I think was out there. And Bear, and all those fans, all the screaming Texas Longhorns. Couldn't hear anything.
Starting point is 02:12:04 Nope. Anytime you see, anytime you see my – I think next year it will be. Because I got dropped in the game day, middle of the season. Yeah. Boom, hey, new guy. He needs a microphone, headset, everything. Every single game or whatever. So I think next year they'll be a little bit more prepared.
Starting point is 02:12:21 And the crew over there is the best. But there was numerous times when I joined that show, show boy i couldn't hear a word anybody was saying yeah it's just like here you know like going into next year next football season has to be better yeah we're not going to have the fuck ups or the miscommunications from the beginning of the year when we started let's go to the phones oh tj watt fell in his pool it looked fine i like that tj what tj watt needs to watch himself doing standard human things okay you're not a standard human tj you are a superhuman that is why you are tj and whenever you're out there you know just trying to be an actual human
Starting point is 02:12:58 trying to stay true to your room your roof. Bang! Ow. Not even a thought to slow down. The new phones are waterproof. Should be fine, right? I haven't tested it. Have you tested it? No, I'm scared to death that I'm going to have to do the full rice trick that never works or whatever. I know they make commercials and tell us
Starting point is 02:13:19 that the phones can go into water, but I just am not 100% sold on that particular theory just yet. But TJ falling off of the ledge in his pool so quickly and abruptly was something that I assume he could never fathom would happen as an adult professional athlete.
Starting point is 02:13:36 Happy he's okay. Yeah, probably pumped the pools open, though. I'm sure he was excited to just get in the pool. New weather, better weather. Get some leaves out of there. Yeah, you know? He looks properly jock, though, in that fucking wet. He looks jock.
Starting point is 02:13:48 Remember what JJ has told us. Anytime you try to do anything with TJ, you have to explain to TJ Watt that there is time to work out and watch film and recover. Oh, and then I guess your niece or your nephew, my son, will have his birthday party afterwards. Okay, well, a lot enough time for you to get all your protein shakes in there. He is fully committed to football. Anyway, he likes to meditate. How's that? Chores.
Starting point is 02:14:17 Chores. Watch him film. Chores. That's sound paper. That's grit. That's jump. Him cleaning his own pool at this stage. What a hero. what a beast that's a
Starting point is 02:14:26 guy who would kick the door into a gm's office and say hey get this deal done enough ain't that right aj guys clean this right man what a legend humble rust belt type guy yeah that's right he'd never sell out would he no he wouldn't no he wouldn't. No, he wouldn't. Never. Well, he did sell out for the Steelers. No. So. I'm done. This thing's over. This thing. This thing. I'm so mad.
Starting point is 02:14:51 It's just shot. We just. I don't know. It's frustrating, isn't it? It takes like. It's exhausting if you do lose your voice. Especially if you have to go to somewhere where you have to speak. It's really tough.
Starting point is 02:15:00 I'm not exhausted. Just every single sentence. I have no idea when it's going to. What is that? Yeah. Yeah. Because there's no pain anywhere there's no nothing i feel good i feel great go get a shot jesus those celebrities the singers go get a cortisone shot like in their throat that happened to morgan wall and it didn't help him and then he had to take six weeks off that's because he was getting fucking tuned up before his concerts well that was a rumor that
Starting point is 02:15:24 was disproved. Coding it up a little bit, maybe a few seeds. I'm too healthy now. That's the problem. My body backfires when I try to eat super fruits. You're right. It is amazing, though. Bullshit.
Starting point is 02:15:35 That's probably like a, what, 24-ounce smoothie? You make that thing last like three hours somehow. That's multiple. Yesterday, you did. It's just two to three of them. Oh, you have two to three, and you keep getting getting more it's always eating right now okay good okay i was gonna say i'm like i don't know i drink a smoothie in like two minutes i don't know how you make that thing last yeah what thank you multiples good stroke might be eroding away from all that smoothie juice yeah what the hell is going on are those things cold what kind
Starting point is 02:16:01 of fruit is that again are those things frozen fucking? It's fucking all CI, dude. There we go. Is it frozen? It was at one point. Maybe your vocores are too cold. This is room temperature now. How much sugar is in that thing? None. What the hell is going on?
Starting point is 02:16:16 Splenda. Only sub. That'll keep me alive. Fruit's got some sugar. Natural sugars. Natural sugars. That's what I mean. They're good sugars.
Starting point is 02:16:24 I haven't had this much fruit ever in my entire life. I've done a lot of dumping. It's kind of the fence. Your voice has never done that. Yeah. What's the deal? It's ridiculous. I need to get back into the terrible food again.
Starting point is 02:16:36 Yeah. Get some wingies out. That's it. Someone ordered some lava cakes. I need some pizza. Yeah. Boom. Pizza and lava cakes.
Starting point is 02:16:42 Same place. See ya. The curl. My voice will be back. See ya there. Where do you get lava cakes? Same place. See ya. The curl. My voice will be back. See you there. Where do you get lava cakes? Domino's. Oh, buddy.
Starting point is 02:16:49 Oh, my daughter always asks for them. It's hard to find places that can deliver it. Domino's lava cakes. No, you can't have any. It's not chicken or rice. Yeah, is that what you tell her? It's very easy, actually, to find a place that delivers them. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:00 Sorry. Oh, Cheesecake Factory doesn't have them. Hey, you know this young generation. They don't work. We don't need delivery drivers. What's your address again? We'll send them. Yeah, we'll gift them.
Starting point is 02:17:09 Please do. Please. Trust me. My kids do not eat the way I eat. I promise you that. Say your address. No one eats the way you eat except for freaks. So from Wex's house.
Starting point is 02:17:17 Fitness freaks. Yeah. From. He's very disciplined. Yeah. I'm not, but yeah. From Wexy's house. Turn left. What is it? Just so we can know. To get to my disciplined. Yeah. I'm not, but yeah. From Wexy's house, turn left.
Starting point is 02:17:25 What is it? Just so we can know. To get to my house? Yeah. Honestly, I've never seen Wexy's. Only in pictures. Can't see it from the road. 50 Ohio State Drive.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Let's go to Jordan in Iowa. Jordan on a five-hour energy phone line. What's going on, Jordan? I wish, Nick. I wish. Happy Children's Day. Have a good Friday, boys. Hell on, Jordan? I wish, Nick. I wish. Happy to. Good Friday, boys. Hell yeah, Jordan.
Starting point is 02:17:46 Hell yeah, Jordan. T's and P's to Pat's voice. Thank you. Is this a little latte? Yeah. So, we have Anthony Richardson, fourth pick overall. He's great. Are we afraid there's a Trent Richardson curse?
Starting point is 02:18:05 Oh! The Richardson curse! Holy shit! Jordan, I didn't want to have to end that call so abruptly. I think you lost service there. But we are not worried about one last name or anything going forward.
Starting point is 02:18:22 We are worried about this a little bit. Jordan was on to something. What's that? The Richardson curse. There has never been a Richardson who's played well here. Anthony Rich, I doubt that. Let's go through the history books of who has played for the Colts. Anthony Richardson is going to be great.
Starting point is 02:18:38 And you know why he's going to be great? Because he got a chance to talk to Travis Scott, Michael Rubin, and Tom Brady just yesterday when they were in Los Angeles for an NFLPA rookie event. They fulfilled all their obligations at the NFLPA rookie event. That had to be reported very loudly. True professionals. Yeah, true professionals doing what they have to do.
Starting point is 02:18:58 And then while they were there, before the plane took off to get out of L.A., they snuck in another meeting with who? I don't know, a couple billionaires. About what? Building a brand and being a high-profile human being. the plane took off to get out of LA, they snuck in another meeting. With who? Oh, I don't know, a couple billionaires. Oh. About what? Oh, building a brand and being a high-profile human being. Yeah. It was Anthony Richardson, and he decided to let Bryce Young,
Starting point is 02:19:14 Will Levis, and CJ Stroud join him. Very nice of AR sending this whole thing out. All right. And this was a message that Tom Brady, Ruben, and Travis Scott said to the young quarterbacks about to take over the NFL. Don't have a video for this. Okay. Was there a video? Who was speaking?
Starting point is 02:19:37 Tom. Tom and Ruben and Scott. Tom looks awesome. Didn't even know there was. Thought for sure we had it. That's 100%. I didn't know there was a video. And as I was leading up to that, I it. That's 100%. I didn't know there was a video. And as I was
Starting point is 02:19:45 leading up to that, I was getting zero response as if we didn't. So 100% on me there. But the speech that Tom Brady gave, good. Yeah, very good. Very good. Hey, when shit hits the fan, he said, you need to work harder is what he told these people, which I think is a good piece of information.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Ruben talked about his work ethic and what he has to do. And then Travis Scott said some things. Then there was another video that came out where Tom was talking about being the first round pick and a second round pick. This is that one. I do believe. In the end, that's not real that big of a deal going first overall in the end.
Starting point is 02:20:20 It's not a big deal, right? It's great. You got opportunity. You're probably going to be paid more than anyone for a time period. But I was drafted, you know, 199. I just outlasted everybody. There's another me back there, right?
Starting point is 02:20:34 So how do I keep my edge on everybody? I had to keep working. I didn't go, hey, I'm good, right? I won three Super Bowls. I'm good. There's another me out there, he said. You know? I think what he was giving them was an incredible piece of motivation,
Starting point is 02:20:49 and I hope that they were listening, obviously. There's a couple other clips of Ruben talking and Travis Scott talking as well and them trying to tell them, like, hey, incredible opportunity ahead of you, but I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. How many of them are going to go on to become great and i think that's what tom's trying to tell him like we have no idea which one of you yeah or if all of you or if any of you are going to be able to go but here's some advice what a weapon for them and i i really appreciate tom doing that and ruben and travis scott obviously
Starting point is 02:21:21 well i think how valuable it is the fact that not only they got to sit there and listen to that, and they will remember that, I'm sure. It had to be really cool for all of them. But they exchanged info, and they can reach out to them throughout the year, throughout however many years they're in the league, and just pepper them with whatever questions they have. I would assume – I saw when they said they were going to talk about being entrepreneurs and whatever, branding.
Starting point is 02:21:42 I'm sure Tom and everyone was like, hey, you got to figure out football first like you got to be good on the field first make sure that is situated and then you have all these other opportunities you can try to take advantage of some guy i forget who it was came onto our team and i just happened to be you know hanging around the room in which the conversation took place a guy asked peyton you know, he was like, hey, I want to have all the commercials and everything. And I want to. What is this? Why does this keep doing this? I'm not happy with this thing.
Starting point is 02:22:15 I mean. Wait till you hear the stern talking to maybe. Maybe. I'm going to have it. I told you. I told you what you could do. It's not. Whiskey. Bye.
Starting point is 02:22:26 You can try it. That just you. I told you what you could do. That's not true. Whiskey? What? You can try it. That doesn't work as well as what your own fluids will do. Oh, you're talking about drinking. I'm not doing that. Anyways, I heard this person ask Peyton, hey, I want to build the brand, do marketing, do commercials. I want to be spokesperson for somebody. And the only answer that was given, and I don't know if Peyton took the lead
Starting point is 02:22:43 on it or his business partner at the time took the lead on it, but somebody basically said, like, yeah, being great at football. That's how. That's number one. Yeah. Like, hey, you know how you get all this other stuff is you're great at football. If you're average at football, you might be able to work yourself into some of these things, but they will not be as long-lasting or as big of affecting that you want it to be. You're going to have to be great at football. That's number one.
Starting point is 02:23:11 And then everything else will kind of follow that later. And that sometimes gets lost with some people, I think. Don't you think, AJ? Absolutely, because they are kind of, from a young age now, told about, hey, like your brand and all that, which I think it sucks when anyone talks about their own brand. It's weird. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:23:27 Whatever. But they are your own brand, and you have to kind of represent yourself that way. But if you don't play well, it doesn't matter. That stuff's not there. But you can do both. You can be a superstar like Peyton Manning and still be awesome in commercials and pick and choose
Starting point is 02:23:40 and be out there and make all that money and have a big profile but still take care of business on the field. Now,field i guess would be the only outlier here and when he was in all those commercials the browns won a playoff game exactly and made it into the but now he's not in them as much because he hasn't been on a team i guess in general or a winning team for a little bit as the guy has a chance to do it down in Tampa again. And if they get back into the spotlight and they're doing great, those commercials will probably come because a lot of people have seen how great he is in those commercials.
Starting point is 02:24:12 But the people you see on those commercials during games, those people are who people think are the face of the NFL. Yes. So you got to be a fucking guy if you want to get there. And I like the fact that it feels like that's what Tom's stressing. You know what I mean? Because we know Peyton has the Manning Passing Academy, which has certainly come into full conversation piece for some reasons,
Starting point is 02:24:34 for one reason or another. It's been happening a long time. And I feel like Peyton and the Manning family feel obligated to give back to quarterbacks almost. So they try their best to give back to the quarterback community. I enjoy Tom speaking to younger quarterbacks and kind of sharing the game. I don't know how often he does that. I assume it happens on a very regular basis.
Starting point is 02:24:52 I hope it will continue to do that because that will mean the league will continue to be great because that is how information kind of gets passed on. You know what I mean, AJ? So I like seeing it. That's everybody. I mean, you talk to any player who's been in the league for a while, there's usually one or two guys in that locker room that kind of, I don't want to say like took them under their wing,
Starting point is 02:25:09 but at least set them straight or let them know or just led by example. Like, hey, this dude's been here for a while. I just watched him and tried to follow him and do little things that he was doing. Like, there's always somebody that you have to kind of model your game or what your whole preparation off of. King Carr, go ahead, Connor. Well, and especially for Brady, like all the players, obviously you can point to bill belichick but like vrabel william mcginnis all those guys that he was competing with they talked about in his documentary like they would
Starting point is 02:25:33 were talking shit to each other every single day so it wasn't just like he had one coach to show him he had like all those great leaders to show him too how to you know be a professional was variable at that golf tournament today? He was not there today, no. I think he's working. All ball. All ball, yeah. Got a division.
Starting point is 02:25:51 Ryan Day's out there. Yeah, with a great swing. Ohio State alumni game, alumni outing. Was Vrabel? Yeah. Yeah, Vrabel's out of town. Did Ryan Day play with you? Yeah, for three or four holes.
Starting point is 02:26:04 No, football. Are you guys raising money here for this thing? No, this thing was just for alumni, like coaches and players. I've never played it. It's my first time doing it. Bobby and Schlage texted me like a week ago and said, hey, why don't you want to join us? I said, yeah, 8 a.m. I got you.
Starting point is 02:26:17 Is that sweet? They just put this together. Who paid for it? No, it happens every year. It's an alumni deal at the Ohio State golf course. They do. Who pays for it? Good question. It's an alumni deal at the Ohio State golf course. They do. Who pays for it? Good question. That's awesome, though.
Starting point is 02:26:29 That's why. It's Ohio State's course, though. That's the difference. It is. It's legit. Like, that type of shit is, like, that's a big deal. We talked about it, bro. And Schlegel lives in Jacksonville now.
Starting point is 02:26:39 Bobby's here. James is coaching now. So, like, to be able to play golf with those dudes, as you get older, I feel like you get weird and sentimental. I'm like, me and Schlage, we're like, man, this is cool to like – Schlage's like, man, it's great being with you guys. Great hanging out with you guys. And I'm like, yeah, it sounds corny or whatever, but it is.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Like, it's cool being able to hang out with the dudes that you played football with that you don't get to see that often. And we're all kind of in – we all have kids that are young. We're all in, like, similar situations. And I got to see, like, Nate Ebner, a great Patri a great patriot player he was in the group he almost killed me with the drive almost landed one right on me yeah great john simon great to see guys that that i don't get to see that often that's adorable that's awesome that is adorable and it's a part of like why ohio state has been great obviously you guys have been cheating forever. And now the NIL deal comes in and you guys just pick right up where it's at.
Starting point is 02:27:27 But the entire program is seemingly run in like a top-notch way. Alumni welcomed back. Bobby Carpenter was working out with the team. Oh, yeah. Every day. Wanted back. Welcome back. Hey, here's an event.
Starting point is 02:27:40 Don't need you to pay us anything. Like literally just want you to just be around, you know? Like that's a big deal. I think that's a smart decision by Ohio State. I mean, yeah. There's like a whole, yeah, we talk about it. There's a whole, you know, you came to our charity event. There's, it's a great spot.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Columbus is a good spot, especially if you play at Ohio State. There's tons of people that stay here that aren't from here that played here and all of a sudden they live here. Yeah, it's cool, man. Is Herb there? I didn't see Herb if he was. Might been on dance dance floor yeah i don't know i don't know it wasn't there let's go to the fence let's go to kenny in illinois hello kenny yo i just want to know who's responsible for aj hawks wik And also, Pat, how can you call
Starting point is 02:28:26 Roman Reigns the GOAT when we had Stone Cold Steve Austin? Whoa. Jeez. Bob Backwood out there, too. When Stone Cold was around, who else was around at the same time? We had The Rock.
Starting point is 02:28:42 We had Triple A. The Undertaker. What? We had Triple H. What? The Undertaker. What? Kane. What? Thank you, AJ. Shawn Michaels. What?
Starting point is 02:28:52 Bret Hart. What? Vince McMahon. What? And the list goes on. Stacey Keebler. All right. Fandango.
Starting point is 02:29:01 So obviously that entire group, Fandango, was not around in the Attitude Era, although he would have been fantastic. Bang. Bang. Bang. Fandango. So obviously that entire group, Fandango, was not around in the Attitude Era, although he would have been fantastic. Bang, bang. Bang, bang. Bang, bang. Bang, bang. He would have been fantastic there. In that group of humans that he just listed off there in fantastic fashion,
Starting point is 02:29:18 carried WWE into the publicly traded era, into the multi-billion dollar era, kind of took over the whole world. Right now you look like Roman's like, Roman is. Been the guy for a long time. Through the hardest era where there was no fans. Where the most amount of money is somehow being made. And the most, Roman is the guy. So I think it's hard not to argue.
Starting point is 02:29:42 With that being said, I watched Stone Cold Steve Austin go into a haunted prison in Nevada on Sunday night and Stone Cold versus America or whatever. And it's hard not to think he's one of the greatest humans just to ever live, let alone in the bucket of WWE. So we're having a different conversation with him in The Rock. Roman, though, has carried the company and the business for so many years. He's our tribal chief, too. Bingo. We will stand for him.
Starting point is 02:30:07 We will, won't we? I will. I mean, look, we also cannot forget about all-time human Jocena. Just because we're going back before him and then we're going after him, we can't forget that he had hon, hon, hon, hon, hon, hon, hon championships. He did. And hon, hon, hon, hon, hon, hon, amount of success. That's right.
Starting point is 02:30:31 And he worked hard. I saw him give an interview, actually, on Busted Open on SiriusXM, and he was speaking better than I was, but he basically said him and Ric Flair, I think, similar comparisons because of the work they both showed they were there every single night that was the workload was incredible roman's doing it in his own way and in doing it in his own way he's also put over like eight other people so like there's conversation about goat talk in different generations and eras but there's also different
Starting point is 02:31:02 ways of doing it and what roman's doing is is with the bloodline, which is fantastic. After the recent news, I believe we need to give a hat tip to one Randy Orton. Hell yeah. Thank you for everything, Randy. Love you, Randy. Thank you. What was the recent news that you saw? I believe he can't wrestle anymore.
Starting point is 02:31:20 What? We hope that's not the case. I thought I heard that. I've seen it on the internet as well, but, I mean, that's been said about a lot of wrestlers. For a long time. Hey, where's the old college wrestler that signed like a year ago? Gabe Stevenson?
Starting point is 02:31:33 Yeah, Gable. I think he's back college again. Yeah, Minnesota. Oh, he is? Really? I'm struggling. I mean, this thing. It's never been that bad.
Starting point is 02:31:42 What is the deal? I have no idea. He'll be up there somehow sometime we assume but there's so much because then those didn't those girls those basketball players signed with the wwe too the twin girls yeah on the today show yeah or good morning america so have they done anything yet wrestling wise no I don't think so no there's like a whole process of like uh you know because it's its own thing. Yeah. So you got to like. It's a long way to the top, AJ.
Starting point is 02:32:06 You just go for a player. You want to rock and roll. Which is on the stairs at that comedy mothership that Joe Rogan opened down there in Austin. Have you seen the lineup that they have every night at that place pretty much? I've seen a couple nights. I haven't seen like the average. You got to get. They use yonder bags every show too.
Starting point is 02:32:24 Phones, really? Yeah. We got to get down there and go to a show that'd be sweet one of those the night down there looks like a great time okay a great time but they do stare photos like artsy photos sure and i think it says it's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll like love school of rock super artsy kind of bad did you guys get? Great movie. Yonder bags? Is that what you said? Because you're putting your phone over yonder? They're called yonder bags. I've been to places
Starting point is 02:32:51 where you have to do it. Last phone call here from Dayton, Ohio on the 5-Hour Energy phone line. Let's go to Devin. Devin, what's up, pal? I'm sure you have with your mask parties. What's up, fellas? What's up, Devin? Hey, Devin. Come on now, Devin. Hey, Devin. Come on now. Come on now. Come on now, Devin. Hey, Devin.
Starting point is 02:33:05 Come on now. Come on now. You got something. Come on. Devin and Dan. Come on now. Go on. Go. Mid-pull on the blood, my fault, fellas.
Starting point is 02:33:12 It's okay. I just want to say congratulations on everything. I know you guys are getting a lot of bullshit. Thank you. For making it to the top, which happens often. It's a lot. And I just want to say you guys are a great operation. I've always kind of wanted to do what you guys do.
Starting point is 02:33:23 And there's always been one path, and you guys are kind of opening up more. I just want to say thank you. And one question for you, Pat. Are you going to be able, in between breaks, when you guys move over to the platform, to get your dope in? Whoa! It's not legal here.
Starting point is 02:33:39 I never do that when we're in Indiana. It's not legal here. Ever. So I assume that'll continue. The exact same practice that is happening now will continue, I do believe. Yes. He's talking crack because sometimes we do do that. I have never seen or been a part of anybody doing crack during commercial breaks,
Starting point is 02:33:58 but if that's what's going on in the locker room, we need to stop it. Tony's just confused. It's not crack. It's Pop Rocks. Oh, with Pepsi? That crack, yeah's Pop Rocks. Oh, with Pepsi? That crack, yeah. Pop Rocks. Yeah, they were.
Starting point is 02:34:11 Pop Rocks are still around. Gosh darn right. Looks great. I mean, it's so long. Great line. Too many push-ups. Hey, I'm doing 100 push-ups a day. 100 push- a day 100 sit-ups every single day yeah i'm doing a cry i gotta stop yeah i imagine you have do you have like a bench in your shower by any chance
Starting point is 02:34:34 uh so i got my shower it's a stander obviously it's a shower like what do you do dips in it i'm just saying oh no you can do like, decline push-ups and do, like, a thousand dips. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, your dong's out because you're naked, but yeah. I shower in shorts. Get a good decline push-up. No t-shirt? Always.
Starting point is 02:34:55 No t-shirt when you shower? Sometimes. Sometimes I wear a wetsuit. See, that's the one. Come on. That's the one. All right. Well, to end this monumental week,
Starting point is 02:35:09 since that ball went through that hole right over there, we'll give 15 people $500 who retweet this video, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay them in the same exact reply. We thought maybe never do a a giveaway again you know after all the heat that we were getting which actually with how much i've been crying and sobbing about how rude people have been to me who've been our fans that might be why i've lost my voice yeah and hard my it has been hard over here and i thought maybe we never do another giveaway because why would you with some of the things that are being said?
Starting point is 02:35:47 But then I had to remember it's not everybody. It's just a small portion. And that small portion of people will realize in a couple of months that everything they're saying that is incredibly rude is completely off base. We'll be getting attacked by other people for sure, but our people will realize that we're good. Things are going to be great. Let's continue to enjoy the hell
Starting point is 02:36:07 out of this stupid ride that we're getting to have and let's enjoy every single moment we get to celebrate the shit out of sports. So this weekend, I hope everybody has a fantastic time. I hope the PGA Championship is fantastic. I hope whatever hockey games you're on are great. I hope whatever
Starting point is 02:36:23 basketball games you're on are great. I hope my voice comes back. And on Monday, AJ, we're celebrating life even more. So congrats to the 15 people or 20, how many did I say? 15. 15 people that win, make it 20. Congrats to the 20 people that win $500. And I would like to
Starting point is 02:36:40 say thank you all so much for supporting us, for being fans of ours, and for all the rude things that you're saying that you're going to regret probably in a few months. We got a big one coming on Monday. Massive shout out to Fireman Ed for stopping by today, Al Michaels for stopping by, and Ian
Starting point is 02:36:55 Rappaport somehow got on the program. For a second. We'll see Ty back hopefully from his indefinite suspension. Maybe. Oh, I hope so. Fingers crossed. We'll see. I doubt it. See you, Ty. Love'll see Ty back, hopefully, from his indefinite suspension. Maybe. Oh, I hope so. Fingers crossed. I doubt it. See you, Ty. Love you, Ty.
Starting point is 02:37:09 Love you, Ty. It's a good shot. Well, we have to put that picture up because with any suspension, normally they put the worst photo. We're trying to shape the narrative here a little bit. The photo does make me miss Joe, though, too. DiNardo? Yeah, because the drop-in kind of looks like Doppler. We know what's coming.
Starting point is 02:37:35 I don't know why, but on that back screen... Rest in peace, Joe. Miss you, Joe. Look at Joe's hair. Impeccable. Always, in all three photos. Look at that tie. Jeez. The only thing more perfect than Joe Nardo's hair is his reading record on the Doppler.
Starting point is 02:37:54 I'm excited to see who's next. Who's going to take the Doppler baton? Grandson, I think. I thought Jim Cantor. Cantor's not reading a Doppler. He's inside the Doppler. Al Roker. Yeah, your guy.
Starting point is 02:38:08 That's what's going on in your neck of the woods. I got it. We'll see you all on Monday. I would like everybody to have a little faith. Not in my voice, but in our vision. You're the greatest humans on earth. We'll see you on Monday. Have the greatest weekend of your life.
Starting point is 02:38:26 Goodbye!

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