The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 914 - Notre Dame LAX Legend Pat Kavanagh, Darius Butler, Ian Rapoport, AQ Shipley, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap this weekend’s Eastern Conference Finals game 7 that saw the Heat outlast the Celtics in Boston, and the Golden Knights dismantling the Stars in Dallas, plus they chat about the NCAA Lacrosse National Championship, the Jimmy G situation becoming increasingly weird with his foot injury, what’s going to happen with D Hop, and everything else happening around the NFL. Joining the progrum fresh off a National Championship victory is Notre Dame Lacrosse legend, Pat Kavanagh to chat about the Irish winning the title, the emotions and waves of the season, the text message he got from his goalie the night before the game, playing with a torn hamstring, what he plans to do to celebrate, Lacrosse as a whole growing as a sport, and much more (23:06-51:49). Next, 9 year NFL veteran at Defensive Back, host of The Man-To-Man podcast, Darius Butler joins the show to chat about both of his Florida teams being in the NBA Finals and Stanley Cup Finals, respectively, how his golf game is, the F1 Race in Monaco that stunk, and more (1:31:33-1:53:43). Later, NFL Network Senior Insider, Ian Rapoport joins the show to chat about the Jimmy G situation, what he thinks DeAndre Hopkins will demand on the open market, his beef with Mike Florio, Brock Purdy’s rehab, and if NFL teams are still interested in Antonio Brown (1:55:53-2:33:03). Lastly, Super Bowl Champion, 11 year NFL veteran on the Offensive Line, host of In The Trenches, AQ Shipley joins the progrum to chat about successfully completing The Murph on Memorial Day, and how he’s feeling just a day after (3:06:59-3:11:10). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Tuesday, May 30th, 2023, this sports program shall start right now. Sports are happening, and we got both of the finals now set up for the NBA and the NHL. In the NBA, you got the Nuggets, who have been resting after sweeping the Los Angeles Lakers, taking on the Heat, who go into Boston and take the soul out of not only Celtics but the entire city and get a massive win in Game 7 of a game that could have had history happen if the Celtics were able to come back from being down 3-zip and make it to the finals. They were not. Tatum blows his ankle out literally on the first play, and that was all she wrote. Could have lost by 40. Oh, yeah. Should have. They were not. Tatum blows his ankle out literally on the first play and that was all she wrote.

Could have lost by 40. It was bad. And in the NHL you got the Florida Panthers out of South Florida and everybody down in South Florida knows that the Panthers existed earlier this year. Everybody in South Florida knew that this Panthers team was an absolute dog. Everybody knew that this Panthers team was going to be

electrifying, exciting, and successful. And now they have to take on the men from Sin City. The Las Vegas Golden Knights won the series last night against the Dallas Stars when they get a win six zip in Dallas. I like that the hockey gods said, you know what, Jamie Benton, the captain of the Dallas Stars, who cross-checked Stoner's head into the ice earlier this series. He said, let's wait for this fucking guy to come back so that we can smack him right in the mouth.

The Golden Knights are in the finals against the Panthers, and then the Heat and the Nuggets will battle. We'll obviously follow that. Nothing starts until Thursday, and then I think Saturday. So we've got some days without sports, but we do have a great conversation today. There's so much to catch up on. The Toxic Table is here. At Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half's so much to catch up on. The Talks at Table is here.

At Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys Tone Diggs is here. And 14 year. 14? 14. Damn.

Long time. That's so long. So long. 14 year NFL corner and icon, ladies and gentlemen, Pac-Man Jones. Hey, Pac. Hey, Pac. Great to see you, Pac. Let's dive into it.

I don't want to talk about the Celtics just yet. What I want to talk about is what we led the show. Connor, you are Mr. Countdown to NFL football on Twitter. Hell yeah. Used to be able to change your name every single day. Now new Twitter can't do that because you'll lose your blue checkmark even though you paid for it. So now you did. Kind of a bummer.

You can do less now than you were able to even though you're taking 11, 8 bucks, whatever it is, from me. So they're going to have to get that figured out. But you still count down the days until NFL football. 100 days, we did it. 100 days, we made it. Now, you know, it's a little easier to stomach because once you have those three digits gone and, you know, tomorrow. Yeah, more than a quarter of the year.

Exactly. More than a quarter of the year and then all of a sudden it's 99. And then you know what comes after that? 98. Still, more than a quarter of the year. You do players' numbers. But we are so far away still. So far. Still very more than a quarter of the year. You do players' numbers. We are so far away still. So far.

100 days is certainly meaningful. The darkest days are ahead of us. Yes. We're about to dive into it. We're about to really get into it. But I like that we're all kind of celebrating the 100 days. Seeing that the NFL put out like a 27-minute video on their Twitter, some top 100 plays from last year. We're all getting there. As the days kind of

go by, we get more excited. But let's talk about this year's 100 Days to NFL Football video. Hey, artificial intelligence is a real fucking deal. Pac-Man, isn't it? It's a real deal. Now, the four Connors that were on the screen, the AI Boston Connor from the Pat McAfee show, was generated like six, seven

different times. These were the four that we picked on there. They looked nothing like you. So AI is still a little bit of a stooge. Still a little bit of a stooge. Got a lot to figure out. But the lyrics, the music, the video, everything pretty much was AI. I like that you used tag team AI

Boston Connor for this. Is this going to be a normal thing for you? Yeah, I don't know. I asked AI this morning some questions I had regarding the Celtics loss you mentioned and they didn't have all the answers. But as far as making the music and the lyrics, it's very easy. So I don't see why you wouldn't use some of those things. Now, you said, yeah, sure, none of those look exactly like me.

Top left, I thought, had a lot of Drew Gulak in them. So I honestly like that one the most. I think bottom right is probably the closest. Top right was the worst. Yeah, top right was probably the worst, but you can see what it was trying to do. I mean, I've never had a, was that a goatee? Maybe you should. I've never had one.

Maybe I should. I think I shouldn't, based on what the AI showed me what it looked like, but at the same time, you know, I mean, they're working with me. It's not like they're working with someone where there's a bunch of photos of them. So they did what they could, and they delivered. I mean, the music was, I mean, that's a banger. Not the song, but the actual beat I enjoyed.

And it was very simple to make. It's crazy how quick this AI works. It's extremely dangerous. And I think that is kind of what I'm reminded throughout this entire thing, because I obviously have the IQ of, you know, a light bulb. Carl Havoc, for instance. Carl Havoc, for instance, exactly. And I was still able to make that fairly easily just because of how genius AI is.

And that could have had 170 bars. Exactly. That song could have had, that could have been a 45-minute song. Oh, yeah. That's the number of bars just popping out of this AI. Literally, watch him type it in. 100 days to a football song. Send. And then it like starts

calculating it's like let me think about it and then boom full song yeah bang and then you got some shitty bars in there definitely but you just you delete those a little bit keep the good ones and then you do it again yeah hundred days to nfl football song please and then it's like can't send the same song twice. Boom. Brand new song. And it's like, well, these ones suck, but these ones are good. It took like five iterations, it felt like, of that. And then you made it,

and the singing was tough. Thank you very much. I was going for maybe like a Beastie Boys song. That's what it sounded like. Yeah, that's what I figured. Did you sing or did I sing it? I sang it. How many more songs are we going to get within these 100 days? Usually the 100 days mark is the

song day. Everything else... Yeah, but now the day I can make a song overnight. It is two more songs. See, if I was as talented as you, then maybe I would be able to do that, but... But it's not about talent anymore is what we're trying to say. AI can do it for you. Hey, AI can really... We joked about it with ai drake right yeah well

drake was uh that's the best trick i've heard since 2010 but yeah well that those are your thoughts not everybody's but a lot of people do share that thought not necessarily anybody here no what i'm saying a lot of people a lot of people do say that that is potentially the drake heads so don't worry i think you know champagne poppy you, he did a lot of good back in the day. He's not singing to me now. I don't understand that. He's not singing to me. AI Drake is.

AI Drake, though, was like, hey, Pat, remember when Drake was going? When it's cold. Here we go. These things are happening. And then I watch you put this thing together pretty quickly, and I'm like, so are we ever going to know

from this point forward what are artists thoughts or what are ai thoughts every artist that is a songwriter has that ai oh yeah right there yep i mean right literally why would you yeah how could you not especially if you knew that was happening and now they'll say well we still wanted to have the human soul this is what people will say i can already hear them give like a answer about the writing process and how AI doesn't have a soul or feel or anything. It's like, well, you can take there and you can add a little soul to it. It ain't about who wrote it. It's about who said it.

But I'm thinking. AI can write it. It's about how you deliver. Just like that, by the way. Yeah, there's no way. Quick. There's no way Drake listened to that Winter's Cold song, if he did, which I assume he did. Had to.

And thought, yeah, this isn't a good song. It's a great song, and I don't get why they don't just have features. Featuring A.I. Drake. Drake and A.I. Drake should be the next album. But I'm assuming that's going to be everybody's album going forward. Oh, yeah. Everybody's album going forward is going to be, I assume, with

the assistance of ai and then they own it right like you own yeah you just created there i i believe i own i think so because what would i have to do just credit the website and even then what was the website comforts dues eventually yeah the website's free i have not even signed on any of these i've watched others really yeah i'm like i have no idea not pack. How could you not, Pat? Honestly, how could you not? Smart. With everything I'm seeing it do, it's amazing. Photoshop and shit. Yeah. Video editing.

The photo. See a fox. I'm okay with it. Have you seen the Photoshop AI, what they can do with that? It's so good. It's absurd. Yeah, you just type in. So I saw a video on it yesterday.

You do the dotted lines that you circle a deer on, right? Deer in the middle of the forest. Circle that deer. And then you just type in into this little search bar, basically, alleyway in New York City. Enter. Boom. The deer is then in an alleyway. Yeah, but then they can make that alleyway have like rain and like pizza.

Hey, I need a fresh New York style pizza. Exactly. Pepperoni, two slices eaten right there. And then bang, like a 4K image of that pizza just pops up. And somehow it's perfectly laying on the alley, not like off-tilted at all. At all. You might as well have been there. It's unbelievable.

I like the one that Nick gave me that you can just click the whole article and it just, boom, it tells you what the whole thing is about, all the key points, everything. The issue with that is, and we talked about this and you heard us talk about this as it was happening, it's like, so now AI is going to decide what needs to be heard out of that article and what doesn't need to be heard

out of that article. Now, that is what everybody does. Everybody on Earth takes an article and then they give their portions of importance from the article to people that's kind of reporting i guess like hey these humans aren't going to read this entire fucking article so i will pick out what i feel like is important what was said and then bang that's my reporting pretty much people do that not everybody but i'm just saying that happens so now ai is deciding what is important what isn't important and this is where it could get a little

you know but humans have been doing this. Exactly. Humans have been doing this for a long time. People's job. So like now AI is doing and it's like, who do you, you know? Who do you believe? And then what is it leaving out? What portions of that article are they leaving out?

Why are they leaving it out? If you send the same article to the same ai will it give the same reaction every single time no or will it be a different review of it each and every single time well i did it twice it gave me two different ones see that's what i'm saying similar was there a similar similar but it wasn't it wasn't the same but listen spark notes have been successful for a long time bingo'm not saying that recaps and things like that haven't been fantastic in a weapon, but I saw that as well with how many articles we deal with in our particular thing. And it's like if this thing can just tell me basically what the article is saying, good.

But then you have to remind yourself, well, who's deciding that's what the article is saying? Right. Which is a whole other angle. Speaking of angle, right now the Las Vegas Raiders are in the middle of an angle that I don't fully comprehend or understand at all. Now, the big news of the Raiders last week was that Tom Brady, the man who literally started the dynastic run for the New England Patriots against the Oakland Raiders at the time in the middle of a snowstorm with the tuck rule,

now has a percentage of the Raiders because he and Mark Davis were business partners with the Aces in Las Vegas just a year ago. So Tom Brady is in the ownership committee of the Las Vegas Raiders. Las Vegas Raiders now find themselves in a predicament. They signed Jimmy Garoppolo to this $77 million deal. They got their guy. This guy knows McDaniel's offense.

When he's on the field, he's a winner. Now he does have a little bit of injury concerns, but obviously they're going to protect him and he's going to be a he's a winner. Now, he does have a little bit of injury concerns, but obviously they're going to protect him, and he's going to be a perfect fit for this Raiders team. Turns out that is not the case. At all. He showed up.

They got shoulder surgery. Remember, that held up the whole trade process, which inevitably led to him ending up at the Raiders. Long past whenever we thought Jimmy G was going to be moved from the San Francisco 49ers because every time he is on the field, he does win. Shoulder injury, though, slowed things down, they said. I guess it wasn't just a shoulder injury. This foot injury that he had to get surgery on immediately upon arriving at the Raiders

had them change an addendum in the contract, which basically says if he can't play next year, they don't have to pay him anything. They're just hoping that the foot will be able to recover by training camp, is their prediction, but nobody else has said, yeah, he'll be back by training camp. What a clusterfuck of a situation. And this is literally everything that's ever said about Jimmy G. And now it was kind of happening behind the scenes. There was real no media about it.

So Florio and Pro Football Talk are very excited that they kind of unearthed this particular thing. But the Raiders might be without a quarterback unless Jackie Moon Jackie Moon, Tom Brady is going to play for him. I guess we have to have that conversation at this point. Well, and if Tom Brady is playing for him and you're a Raiders fan, you're so happy that Jimmy G didn't have to

do any physical and he came in and basically fucked up their entire team, but also has this ever happened before? Has there ever been someone? 72 million feels like a lot of money for this to potentially fuck up. As a free agent, too? That's what I was going to say. How does this happen?

This is the NFL. They're doctors and everything. How does this happen? But they knew. The Raiders knew. That's why they changed the contract. Well, they're saying they knew. They changed the contract.

I don't think they knew. To an extent, maybe, but not like, oh, wow. Yeah, we knew his foot was a little banged up. You're going to have to have surgery, and you might miss the start of training camp. Like, there's no way they're paying him and signing up for that, you know, three months ago. This is crazy. This is crazy. I don't think they knew when he first got there, it pops up on the physical.

Oh, buddy, you need surgery, by the way. We're going to have to rework this thing. This is crazy. Addendum G, I believe, is what Mike Florio said. I've never seen this on a TV. You know how we had the watching film hours clause in Kyler that we all said? What is this? Addendum G, a key waiver that potentially allows the Raiders to walk away from the deal

without any financial obligation due to Garoppolo's foot injury. That was never reported when Garoppolo went to the Raiders. Garoppolo's shoulder's good. You know how we know his shoulder's good? Because he just signed for $70-some million with the Raiders. He's good. Jimmyolo went to the Raiders. Garoppolo's shoulder's good. You know how we know his shoulder's good? Because he just signed for 70-some million with the Raiders. He's good. Jimmy G's with the Raiders. Devontae Adams says he doesn't necessarily agree with what the front office is doing.

Oh, you don't like Jimmy G? Is that what's going on? Turns out he might have found out. Hey, we don't know if Jimmy G might have Hoyer. What? You might have. How's that sound? Guy that just got drafted.

What? Stravolski and Devontae because I was wondering why Devontae was openly saying I don't agree with what's going on here it's like yo Devontae none of us agree with what's going on at the team we're at you're getting paid a lot of money don't necessarily need that type of shit out

if you're the Raiders or if you're Devontae if Devontae which I assume he did know about this before it even comes out davante's like we don't even have a fucking quarterback right now what are we what are we even talking about i that completely changes my whole mindset on what davante was saying in that interview last week completely make a lot of sense like we're not even on the same page we don't even have a guy that can start i'm quite sure when when vae went there, the quarterback talk was the big issue. I'm quite sure they promised him a good

quarterback. Jimmy G is an okay quarterback. Jimmy G hurt is nobody. They got Hoyer. If he's not 100%, who else do they have? The kid they drafted, I think, was the kid from Purdue. Aiden O'Connell. Okay, maybe a dog.

We have no idea. Josh McDaniel's offense, the reason why Jimmy G was such a good signing is because he knows it. And this offense isn't necessarily the easiest to pick up. If you go back to the New England Patriots, whenever people would just sign up to go to that offense, it was like, yeah, it'll work, it'll work. And then some guys it didn't work because the offense is a lot of decision-making

on the fly, seeing the same thing, everybody being on the same page. That's why Jimmy's a perfect fit for McDaniels. Now Jimmy's out. We've got Hoyer in there. He knows it. But Hoyer's Hoyer. Right, exactly. No offense to Hoyer.

Also got hurt last year when he did come in and play. Then Aiden O'Connell and Chase Garbers. I mean, I'm assuming Aiden O'Connell will be able to pick it up. Purdue creates fucking astronauts. He probably has a big brain. So maybe he'll be able to pick up the offense quickly. And Chase Garbers, he'll be able to pick it up. Purdue creates fucking astronauts. He probably has a big brain. So maybe he'll be able to pick up the offense quickly. And Chase Garbers, he'll be able to figure it out as well. But you got Tom Brady sitting there potentially in the ownership group.

That's going to be a hard thing not to be like, hey, Tom. Now, I don't think he's – Is he a lot? I think he would have to suspend it for a year, I think. Yeah, because that was the conversation when we were talking about the Dolphins and Brady, how it worked with him being the owner. Peyton, allegedly, was offered a percentage of a team. I think the Titans, whenever he was a free agent, he ended up

going to the Broncos instead. But that was all rumor. I don't know if any of that was ever real. And I've never asked Peyton. We should ask him the next time he's on, just because the only time it comes up is whenever this type of situation happens. Go ahead. Elway. Elway was offered a percentage while he was playing with the Broncos, because there's always that story, like, instead of doing that, he took

a contract, and now that would have been worth this many billions. Yeah, so it's fascinating. Like, why wouldn't Tom newly single in a dome Devontae Adams Gronk, right? Gronk, yeah. I mean, he can mentor

Michael Mayer. Yeah, but I'm just saying like Gronk could still play football. Oh, yeah. Hunter Renfro. They all know Josh McDaniel's shit. Sorry, I love. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, Gronk still plays football. Oh, yeah. Hunter Renfro. They all know Josh McDaniel's shit. Sorry, I love Tom Brady, but I don't know if he's still got it. No.

The power. You heard this? I mean, we did watch last season. Come on now, guys. What? No, it sound good. They were not good last season. But 17 weeks. Yeah, they were terrible.

Everybody on the sideline, too, was terrible. That entire team was terrible last year. Vibes were like, remember, he was missing. Was that last year. But 17 weeks. Yeah, they were terrible. Everybody on the sideline, too, was terrible. That entire team was terrible last year. Yeah. Vibes were... Remember, he was missing... Was that last year? He was missing shit. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he took, like, what, 25 days? He had FTX. He had divorce. Yeah. He had... He had a lot of stuff going on off field. I'm 40 years old. There's a lot of shit going on.

Right. And then we start learning. It's like, oh, multi-billion dollar potential fraud litigation. Yeah. Divorce, a couple hundred million dollars. Right. Yes. Divorce happening. It's like, oh, multi-billion dollar potential fraud litigation. Divorce, a couple hundred million dollars. Divorce happening is potentially very public. And also, new head coach, new everything.

And your guys aren't... He is a better option than Hoyer. Yeah, and it's probably... And Hoyer? Come on! What are we even... I said he's a better option than Hoyer. Yeah, but the way you said it was as if, like, you know, if we're comparing him to Hoyer, yeah.

I suppose you could beat Hoyer. Hoyer is a player. And that AFC West, though. Tough. That's going to be very tough. I feel like the Raiders are similar, too, because they do have a bunch of weapons just like the Bucs did, but their O-line fucking stinks just like the Bucs did.

I don't know if he wants to sign up for that again or not. Yeah, why don't they get A.Q. Shipley in there to coach him? They should. I know he's in shape. If they want to win the Super Bowl. Motherfucker did the Murph yesterday. Yes, he did. A.Q. did the Murph yesterday. He's like 280 pounds right now doing the Murph.

This guy almost killed him. Almost killed him. He put no context at all in this photo. He just put a photo of what the Murph did to him, and then he posted this photo immediately afterwards. It got sent in the group. And obviously, he looks like crazy vanilla gorilla here, barbarian, losing his mind.

I'm like, what happened? He goes, Murph almost killed me or whatever. And then I responded like, you did not do the Murph. No chance. Yeah, you're 280 pounds, pal. There's no way you did the Murph. The Murph is a mile. You run one mile to start it. What?

Then you do 100 pull-ups. What? 280 pounds, this guy's doing 100 pull-ups. That's tough. 200 push-ups. I'm doing 100 push-ups a day thinking I'm fucking, like, the guy. Yeah. Put me on American Gladiators part one documentary on tonight. ESPN can't wait to watch. I'm doing 100 push-ups.

I think I'm the guy. 300 bodyweight squats. Not going to be able to get off the shitter. That's absurd. My whole ass cramped up when I just tried this about 45 minutes ago. I think I made it to set six or seven of 30. I had 10 sets. Almost killed me.

Yeah, you're not going to be able to get off the john later. And then you have to run another mile after doing that. And then you're doing this all in a 20-pound vest or body armor. It's called the Murph. A lot of people do this during Memorial Day. Murph, I believe, was badass SEAL who basically put together all the workouts. Absolute dog.

They were doing it to getting a lone survivor whenever they're running around the base, I guess. I guess it would be base there. They're doing this. And this has become something that people do on Memorial Day. I look at that immediately and think, okay, I'm done. I'm one mile in maybe.

If I do 15 pull-ups, I'm like super pumped. Absolutely. With how fat my fucking ass is and how heavy my lower body is, I am jocked if I do 15 pull-ups. You're nowhere near done. No. Zuckerberg did this yesterday. Of course.

A.Q. Shipley did this yesterday. What? You know who didn't? Who's that? A.J. Hawk. did this yesterday. What? You know who didn't? Who's that? A.J. Hawk. What? Really? What's that all about?

It's America. Wow. Kind of a fraud there. Although with how mangled and fucked up his fingers are, can he even do pull-ups? Can he even wrap them around the bar? Here's the deal, boys. For next Memorial Day, we all will be doing the Murph. Okay.

Okay? There's a team. Got it. It's going to take a lot for me to get there. I'm going to need a full... You know in Happy Gilmore, after the hockey tryouts, he goes to the thing and he says, 295 days?

I need 364 days until the MRF that I need to do. So this is going to be a full commitment out of me. If we can all pull it off. Together? We'll donate $100,000. Okay. We need a percentage of people in here. 90% of people in here. Pull it off.

I thought you meant together like we all do. We split it into one. No, no, no. We're all doing it. I thought you meant just you guys out there. The back room doesn't count. No. You're the one that's best set up for this.

Yeah. Weighing 125. 200 push-ups? Weighing in at 125 pounds. Yeah. You were set up for this perfectly. I would be sore all week if I did 20 push-ups right now.

We'll do 80%. 80% of the office can pull this off. We'll donate 100 grand or something like that, too. I would just pull you guys down. So it's probably just... No, Zito, this is a good goal, actually. I'm viewing this as a goal. Let's go! That cherry just lost $100,000 if I'm included.

No, it didn't, Zito. We're 364 days away. You've got this quitter attitude. Don't fucking do that. You're going to do it,000 if I'm included. No, it didn't. We're 364 days away. You've got this quitter attitude. Don't fucking do that. You're going to do it. Zero, you've got time to get in shape. Hey, Q did it. Plus, are we doing average percentages?

So if someone makes it through 90% of the workout? No, got to complete it. Okay. And they do it like Zuckerberg did it in like 24 minutes. It wasn't really Zuckerberg. And his two kids did it in like 15 minutes or something. I don't know how that, yeah, here we go. Zuck, I tried doing

Murph Challenge with girls every Memorial Day. It's a tradition, okay, to honor those who defended us. One of Lieutenant Murphy's favorite workouts was running a mile, 100 pull-ups,

200 push-ups, 300 squats, and running a mile, all while wearing a 20-pound weighted vest. This year, I got it done in 39 minutes. Where's the video, Zuckerberg?

The girls did a quarter Murph, which is unweighted, in about 15 minutes or so. So Zuckerberg obviously just won the jiu-jitsu challenge with the Gi. Correct. And then he lost it without the Gi. Rematch, won it without the Gi. Now he's doing the Murph and his kids are doing the Murph. Can't have these nerds fucking beating us and everything. This can't happen.

Zuckerberg can't be smarter than us, better at jujitsu than us, and a physical specimen. He is, though. So we all need to tighten the fuck up for Memorial Day next year. Let's do it. That is Zuck.

No, it's not. He went missing for a little bit. He went missing for a little bit. He had an exoskeleton, but it's not an exoskeleton. He got to put it inside of his body. Could you imagine if it is robot and he's just supposed to... How many pull-ups do you need?

Downloaded how to be a jiu-jitsu fucking master in there. Anyways, hope everybody had an incredible Memorial Day. That'll be the goal for next year. 80% of us have to completely donate $100,000. Write it down. Let's remember that. It's a good goal for everybody, including that back room who's already making excuses 364 days out. Joining us now is a man who makes no excuses at all. It's a good goal for everybody, including that back room, who's already making excuses to be on our 64 Days Out.

Joining us now is a man who makes no excuses at all. That's right. He's not the youngest of a royal family in lacrosse, second youngest of a royal family of lacrosse, who just won the natty of college lacrosse. No big deal. This dude actually said after the game, alongside his brother who won the national championship next to him,

oldest brother Matt started the whole legacy of going to Notre Dame. 35 years Notre Dame has been a lacrosse team. First time winning the national championship because these two brothers that were standing there giving an interview afterwards, this man had a torn hamstring for the national championship. T two brothers that were standing there giving an interview afterwards this man had a torn hamstring okay for the national championship torn fucking hamstring probably out five to six weeks in other sports especially professionally oh yeah and he told a story about the goalie empty texting him the night before saying hey you ever hear the story of a guy named mike may took 27 fucking shots and a grenade and then he got up and killed everybody

he's a navy seal i don't think a hamstring's a problem. And this guy said, yeah, I'm thinking you're right. Torn hammy, no problem. Up for the Tuaraton Award, which is the Heisman of lacrosse. He's the all-time leader for assists in Notre Dame's history, beating his brother

Matt Cavanaugh's record. Ladies and gentlemen, Pat Cavanaugh. What's up, dude? How's the hammy? How's it going? It's good. Feels good, honestly. I don't know.

Nothing really matters besides we won, so that's all that matters. Haven't really thought about the hamstring at all. How's the celebration been? Just from looking at the lacrosse culture, I grew up in East Hills of Pittsburgh. We did not have a lot of lacrosse at the time. But obviously, all of us have seen the growth of lacrosse and have respected the athleticism and the environment. But if you look at

the culture, it feels like a culture that would celebrate a national championship rather hard. How were the khakis last night? Did we fucking get after it? How was the celebration, Pat? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the fellas definitely got after it. We spent some time celebrating as a team in the locker room

immediately after the game, and then the postgame tailgate was epic. There was 30-plus years of Notre Dame lacrosse alumni there. The bagpipes were ripping. It was just an unbelievable scene. And then, yeah, we had a night last night for sure. Yeah, just keep it going first time in 35 years the boys need to celebrate especially an epic win in which you you guys won 13 to 9 you had an assist on a torn hammy the team showed up guy scored from the other

side of the fucking field does that happen all the time is that a normal thing in lacrosse uh i mean it happens definitely it's called the 10 man ride Where the goalie will come out of the net To try and even the playing field And the other team tries to get the ball back And the net's open So yeah our guy just went for it Scored from like 60 yards out

It was an epic play Barred down Which I believe would be a goal Even if he was closer and the goalie was in net There's a chance that that sneaks by. Watching you and your brother Chris celebrate afterwards and the emotions of it all, and then they were telling the story of your older brother, Matt Cavanaugh,

who basically went to Notre Dame. He's older than you guys. I just said that. But he kind of like set the thing. They lost in the national championship. So it felt like that moment was really huge for you guys. Do you think about that going into the national championship? What is the that moment was really huge for you guys do you think about that going into the national championship what is the mindset with your brother and the

entire team knowing that there's like three decades of pressure almost on the moment yeah for sure and especially to get it done against Duke it was just unbelievable watching that they lost the national championship to Duke in 2014 and then then a couple of years before that, they lost in overtime to Duke in 2010. So, yeah, our coach has been here for 35 years. He built our program from the ground up, made it a D1 program after it was club. And then, yeah, watching my brother, Matt, just go through everything, get so close. And he kind of started the dream for me and Chris. Ever since he committed to Notre Dame, we fell in love with the school and the lacrosse program.

So, yeah, it was just so much built up into it, over a decade of our family being involved with Notre Dame lacrosse. So, yeah, it was just an unbelievable experience and just so surreal. Can't believe it actually happened. Well, congrats. It did. You earned it. There's the Kavanaugh family,

and there's a picture, actually, of you holding a poster for your brother, and then your brother in return doing the same exact thing. The other brother, sorry, because you're number 51, 50, and 51. Hey, what's up, dog? What's up? How you doing? That's Chris. Dude, congratulations, pal.

Hell yeah. Thank you so much. Hey, you dropped the fuck on ESPN, right? That was you? Yeah, that was him. Yeah, that's my bad. No, no, no. I don't see that.

It was a lot better. I don't know if you saw the reaction. Everybody was like, yeah, that's a beautiful thing. So you are, you're the youngest, right? You're the youngest out of this whole thing? Yeah, I'm the youngest of six. Are you guys, of how many? Six. Jeez. And Pat, you're coming back again right because the covid year yeah i got a fifth year yep one more year so you guys

automatic favorites right is this what and then you'll be able to play to what 2029 probably is that what uh 2025 two more years what happened did you get a stick to the eye there so in the in the semi-final game I got hit and then

after the game I had to get five stitches and then my eye kind of swallowed up so I got a black eye with some stitches nice shiner

look how cool he looks dude you look so cool right now you're a national champion and you got five stitches on the eye you have to feel so cool right and you said fuck a national champion, and you've got five stitches on the eye. You have to feel so cool.

And you said fuck on ESPN. Yeah. Oh, my God. What a weekend. Hey, anime! What a run. What a dog, dude. What a dog.

So what do you guys do now? Are we in practice? Are we just, like, do you take some time off? What is the lacrosse schedule? So, like, today we actually are giving a clinic for a bunch of little kids in philly at a high school so um that'll be interesting i think a lot of the guys will still be banged up after last night but um uh yeah so we got that and then we're going to germany actually um tomorrow our team does an international trip every four years and it kept getting pushed back. It was supposed to be

after my freshman year and then COVID just kept pushing it back. So it's unreal that we're doing it after winning a national championship. Couldn't have been any better. So how many countries do they have lacrosse? Because I know you're a U.S. gold medalist. I assume he is as well, the guy with the fucking shiner after

winning the natty. I assume the whole Kavanaugh family just has gold medals all over the place for the sport of lacrosse. But for me that doesn't understand the sport as much, how many countries have it, and is it an Olympic sport? What is it? Is it just a world competition? How does it work?

They're actually pushing really hard to get it in the Olympics in 2028, but it's going to be a different like version of lacrosse it won't be like the full field type game oh mickey moss lacrosse why are they doing that yeah um i don't know i think it's honestly the only way that they'll be able to get it in the olympics i'm not i'm not sure the details behind it but yeah i don't really i'm not a huge fan of the the version that they're trying to put in the Olympics. Me neither. I mean,

if it gets there, then it'll be really cool, but I don't know. It's just, it's just a little, a little weird, but yeah, they got,

so they're trying to get in the Olympics and then I'm not sure how many countries actually play, but the U S and Canada are like the powerhouses of lacrosse. So, um, all the gold medal games and every tournament end up just being us versus canada hell yeah we beat them every fucking time too damn right yeah we do you're damn right we do shout out to you canada um so whenever the lacrosse college thing happens

i feel like it's uh i didn't know notre dame was as highly touted i guess i should have known that i thought it was all the super nerd schools right you got like harvard's in there yeah yale is in there duke obviously we've learned of the cross team a long time ago know anything about it virginia i think he's in there is there how many is like the power of the college across and do you see it continuing to grow as you maintain your time in college like how quick is it growing you think uh the sport as a whole is growing really really fast um but i don't know how many other teams like in the pack 12 or out west will add college across because of title nine i think that's the that's the main thing

holding the sport back but uh the powerhouses in this border like in the acc and um the big 10 like maryland um ohio state michigan had a good year this year um but yeah definitely say the acc is the most dominant conference in lacrosse notre dame duke uva unc and cuse so not definitely not the ivy league they're they're all frauds now isn't that what it's kind of known for though like i immediately think like the super smart kids are playing the lacrosse because then it's an immediate pipeline right into the banking community in new york it's like if you're good at lacrosse and you went to a business school good for you we have a fucking investment firm for you that's kind of what like how i viewed the that sounds like that's not the right way to look at it i mean i mean for yeah it's pretty accurate for like the top business schools and

the ivy leagues yeah that's actually very accurate honestly but um yeah i'd say you're right about that one but yeah there are definitely a lot of tough kids that play lacrosse. Like this guy's got his eyes split open, played on Andrew Haney. There are tough guys that do play. I will say you think like yups, right? Like I really think like yups and khakis and dock shoes and everything like that. Then you watch the game and it's like, hey, we're beating the shit out of each other with sticks here. And there's some real like big shots happening and then you listen to you guys talk you guys are like all old school

like you with the torn hamstring like as soon as i heard that i was like man i fucking love that don't expect that out of lacrosse i think you don't i don't think i naturally expected out of lacrosse and i started looking into it more it's like yo there's a bunch of dogs out here then you start listening it's like yeah you're either gonna be an elite lacrosse player or you're probably gonna be a navy seal like that that's what yes that's what these guys are here's what i don't even know so was that your acting active hamstring there that blue thing or what was this yeah yeah we tried to make like a makeshift like artificial hamstring type thing so i wasn't like um using it as much i don't know i couldn't really use it much but the bruising is kind of ridiculous i could show you guys if you

want to see it yeah hell yeah hell yeah uh live breaking news national champion pat cavanaugh that's chris cavanaugh there with the stitches on his face oh shit oh yeah chris use your good eye get that thing focused. There you go. Hey, that's just starting, too. That's going to get worse. Yeah. You know that, Pat. I assume you know that.

Yeah, but we got it done. So credit to all my teammates for stepping up in a huge way. It was unbelievable. Hey, so NT sent you that text or that message about mike may the uh navy seal is that real like was there a question on whether or not you're going to play and then you thought to yourself yeah a guy in a life or death situation got shot 27 times took a grenade i think i can fucking play yeah yeah i can't is that good boy that really happened how did it all go down yeah it actually happened. I kind of did what I just did with you guys.

I sent Liam, I sent the captains a photo of my hamstring. I was like, this is fucked. I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it through the whole game tomorrow. I was kind of getting in my own head because I've been waiting so long for this. Like I said, I watched Notre Dame-Macross get so close. I have so much passion for this program, and I didn't want to miss this game for the world. So I was getting a little anxious the night before the game, so I sent that photo to the three other captains,

and then Liam texted me on the side a little paragraph, I guess, from an article about the guy Mike Day saying he took 27 bullets. He just walked into a room in guy to walk into a room in Afghanistan, I think it was, and took 27 bullets and was like 10 feet away from a grenade. And then when he woke up and gained consciousness, he killed two guys. And I read that, and it was just like I got the chills because we were playing on Memorial Day, and I was – I just started putting it all in perspective.

Like, it's just a little hamstring injury if this guy's getting shot at 27 times and taking a grenade. Like, I could do this. So I shouted out Liam and shouted out Mike Day in the interview. That was special, especially on Memorial Day. But, yeah, that definitely was all the motivation I needed. God. I thought I was going to outthrow it. Bro, yeah, that definitely was all the motivation I needed. Whether or not I was going to out-throw it or be a bit. Bro, team sports are the best.

Team sports are the absolute best. Think of Enty sending you that message because Enty knows, hey, we need you. And also, this guy would regret this decision forever if he didn't play or whatever. So, like, the camaraderie, the bond that you two have for him to go, let me find something. Yeah.

And then send it to you, and then it works, right? And then it, like, motivates you and propels you. And also we learn of this fucking dog that is Mike Day. I'm pumped for him. He had a great game. Hey, great game, didn't he? I mean, we're talking he was all over the place. Yeah, he was unbelievable.

He was the best goalie in the country by far. What's that there? That's a trophy? No, it's like something we stole from the hotel last night. At the bar. Respect, respect. That's awesome. NT's a guy, though, huh?

Always has been? Yeah, he's a dog for sure. A certified dog. Are they wearing pads? Nothing down low. The goalies wear a chest protector and a helmet. That's it. They're fucking psychotic.

Holy shins. Taking one off the kneecap arms. Those things are coming quick, right? Those things are going real fast Yeah The hardest shot is like Those things are moving 100 miles an hour 90 miles an hour

It's like a hard rubber ball It hurts I don't know Shout out Ante Shout out Ante He deserves a statue outside of our Looker Hall Stadium. He's a legend. Is he coming back again?

Yeah, he'll be back. He's in my senior class. He's got an extra year. Can we bet on lacrosse? Can we bet on it? Do we know if we're going to bet on it? Yeah, you can bet on it. Hey, let's go, boys.

Let's fucking go. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Pat, obviously you're locked to win the Tour, especially because it factors in all the team success. I mean, you're the best player on the best team. What are we talking about here? Give the guy the Heisman. But apparently your brother –

Touaregon, Touaregon. Touaregon, excuse me. I don't know how to speak. I actually learned how to say that word this morning. But your brother was telling me that you guys last year got robbed. Apparently you were supposed to go to the national tournament last year. You didn't get in. Was this kind of like a revenge season for everybody on the team?

And were there any new guys that kind of came in and helped you guys kind of elevate to get to the national championship? Yeah, for sure. So last year, to give some context, we were ranked the number four team in the country in all the media polls the day before the selection show. And then we just didn't make the tournament because apparently we didn't have any uh tournament wins but uh what

how's that how's that happen what does that even mean what does that mean i don't know we started out two and four and then rattled off six straight wins to finish eight and four and i don't know our early season early season losses in February kind of screwed us over. But so, yeah, after that, all the guys, it was just the most devastating thing of all time. We were ranked in the top five. We thought if we just got in the tournament, we were going to win the whole thing.

Our team was that good last year. And we got screwed over. I'm just going to say it. I don't know a lot about it, but it sounds like you did. Just learned about it. Sounds like you did. Sounds like there's some people that had a little bit something out for you. They were in a selection committee. Sounds like you did get

screwed over. Don't love it. The head of the selection committee went to Dartmouth. We hate them! We hate them! Dartmouth, I knew that school existed I hate them Bunch of frogs everywhere Yeah, and six Ivy League teams made it last year

And one ACC team made it And we were the co-ACC champions with Virginia and we didn't make the tournament. Oh! Oh! Happy little cross gods made up for it this year though. Bingo. Didn't they? Two ACC teams in an addy.

They knew it was happening. You know what I mean? Kind of a dunk almost on the entire Ivy League. Full windmill. Sorry. Nerds. That was the worst probably the worst one of the worst days ever and then but honestly all our teammates after that were like this could be the best thing that's ever happened to notre dame lacrosse because we use it as motivation every single day the whole summer the whole fall the whole preseason like guys were just so accountable and so disciplined the whole fall, the whole preseason. Guys were just so accountable and so disciplined the whole year. It was like nothing I've ever experienced before.

Anytime anyone fucked up, everyone's getting in each other's faces. The intensity the whole year. We wouldn't have won the national championship this year if we made the tournament last year. So not making the tournament, I think, honestly got us over the hump because it was just a whole other level of buy-in and everything. So yeah, definitely shout out to the head of the committee got us over the hump because it was just a whole nother level of buying everything so uh yeah definitely shout out to the the head of the committee and whoever else that fucked us last

year for for giving us yeah thanks way to go kind of like yeah kind of like empty level of motivation a little bit darkness over there just motivating the whole team you know that team over there they need to get smacked right in the mouth with some humility that's right not even welcome in our tournament and then you know what that's going to do? That's going to build them up for next year. That's going to be even better for next year. They absolutely know. Now what are we going to do now that we won?

Are we going to get a little comfortable? Is that the lacrosse house there? Is that the lacrosse house? No, we're in the hotel in Philly. We're going to Germany as a team, like I said before. Yeah, we're still in the hotel, leaving from Newark Airport tomorrow. Do you guys have a lacrosse house? I assume it's pretty good time. You happen

upon the lacrosse house? Yeah, yeah, we do. Hell yeah. Hang those fucking shirts on the wall at the lacrosse house, dude. That's right. Hang those on as soon as you walk in. Lacrosse house good time huh i assume yeah yeah it's a great time that was definitely good after it but um

yeah that's about all i'll say yeah smart very very smart pac-man has a question for you pat um you was talking about your coach 35 years and obviously you know the whole history how was this for coach kevin um i heard a lot about him um Was this a good thing for him and how you feel for him? Yeah, he's an absolute legend. So happy for him. When we got the trophy yesterday, we all immediately just grabbed it and ran it over to him because we wanted him to get a touch. He deserves it. He deserves the world. He's accomplished about everything in his career besides the national championship until yesterday. So, like, the only knock on him was that he never won a title in 35 years. So, for him to finally get it done, it was just unbelievable.

And watching my older brother play for him and get so close, it was just, for me personally, it was just an indescribable feeling i'm so happy for coach horton it's he's an absolute legend hell yeah congrats to coach yeah coach 35 years a long time long time that's a long time you know wouldn't a natty like i would assume that's something he has thought about yeah staying through it on a long like there's been a lot of times because you could have a 30-year career people say hey great career yeah 25 year great hey great career 20-year career that's 15 years ago yeah 20-year career hey hell of a career unbelievable so for 35 fucking years to think about that and then get one what a night he hey he uh he had a good time with you guys or

he's straight shooter uh yeah i don't think he didn't make it out with us. Our assistant coaches did, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was spooning with the trophy last night. Hey, you get that thing, coach? You get that thing. Tone has a question for you, Pat. Yeah, so after next season, is the PLL the goal? Like is that the final goal after you leave Notre Dame? Yeah, that would be cool.

We're planning that right now, But haven't thought about it too much Staying focused on my college career But yeah, that'd be really cool Actually, my brother Matt Is on the Cannons right now He got traded this summer They're playing the Archers on Saturday On ESPN Plus

Shout out to Matt And good luck this weekend Good luck Cannons Fuck the Archers on ESPN plus. So shout out to Matt and good luck this weekend. Hey, good luck. Fuck the archers. Hey, tell them if they got anything going on. I mean,

I guess the archers could be the same thing, but the Connins, I mean, we need a 60 yard bar down, just pay a little tribute to the Notre Dame boys that are out there swinging it. Go ahead, Ty.

Pat, everyone knows Notre Dame traditionally, obviously big time football school. They've had success in basketball too baseball as well um but with you guys winning a national title and being good last year are you guys kind of like almost the big swinging dicks on campus uh at this time or is it still like kind of football rules the roast in south bend um yeah we were actually talking about that yesterday like what it's going to be like coming back to campus fresh off the national championship we talked about it all year and we said it would be the coolest thing ever but um yeah i think football is definitely

the most prominent team on campus just the history behind it and it's like you think of notre dame you think of notre d Dame football so but honestly they haven't won a national championship since 1988 um and and we were able to get it done so I don't know I got so much respect for their team and Marcus Freeman he was actually at the game yesterday and came to the the semi-final game against Virginia so I got a lot of good friends on the football team nothing but respect and love for that program before uh Matt even committed to Notre Dame lacrosse, I was a diehard Notre Dame football fan. So I got nothing but love for that program. Did you go to Catholic school, high school? Yeah, I did. Okay. So I'm learning this through Ty that like the Catholic high schools,

like their Notre Dame is like, they're not everybody, I guess it's not 100 percenter, right, but it is, like, a natural, like, destination spot. It's like, hey, this is the college Catholic school, it seems like. I didn't put those two and two together because I didn't do the Catholic school thing or talk to anybody that went to Catholic school, although I should have. Sounds like you guys are pretty cool guys. You know what I mean? Just didn't assume that you'd be a cool guy, but that's on me. None of you. Those are my own prejudices that I need to get by, okay, and I will, certainly as I continue to grow older here. But I learned that Notre Dame is like the dream school for most Catholic

high schools, and that just makes sense naturally. Does Coach Lou Holtz have anything to say about the lacrosse team taking home the national championship? Yeah, Pat, I'd just like to say it is absolutely unbelievable that the lacrosse team finally won the national championship. But I will say, slow your roll, pal? Yeah, Pat, I'd just like to say it is absolutely unbelievable that the lacrosse team finally won the national championship, but I will say slow your roll, pal, okay, because you know who the last coach to win the national championship

you're talking 1988, that was me, goddammit. I was the one who won the last national championship. We'll see that could be good this year, but I mean if we got guys out of the lacrosse team playing, you know, with the goddamn torn hamstring ripped off the fucking bone, maybe we get that guy on the football field and have him play linebacker.

Have you ever, I don't know, considered being a two-sport athlete at Notre Dame, Pat? That's awesome. Our coach, Corrigan, actually has an epic impersonation of Lou Holtz that he does during our film sessions sometimes. But, yeah, that's unreal. We actually have a two-sport walk-on on our lacrosse team. He walked on the football team two years ago and then walked on our lacrosse team last year, Sam Asaph. And he's been talking to Marcus Freeman about me possibly walking

on the football team. Oh! What position? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think maybe possibly safety. Strong safety. Oh, my God.

Got away with a torn hammy. That's right. That's a body work by nothing. We do have this photo from this weekend that you guys took. Oh! Boys look good. Boys look good. Yep, that's an epic photo.

That is pretty sick, isn't it, with the champions up behind it there, the trophy down on the side? Yeah, wow. What if you guys won shotgun there with that thing? Would have been a Tom Brady boat to boat. True. What has that trophy done? You guys do anything with that trophy?

No, I actually haven't seen it since the locker room celebration after. I don't know where it is. Pat, find the fucking trophy. Pat, find the trophy, dude. Need you to find it. Newt Luger's off that thing. Yeah. In Germany?

Oh, my God, in Germany. All right. Yeah, I don't know. It's going to be an absolute shit show. Are you playing over there or no? With the hammy? Probably not, right? Yeah, no. I already told my coach I'm not bringing my fucking equipment. Do the victory lap, pal, and then run that thing back next year. We appreciate you so much taking time. Tell all the boys we said hello.

Appreciate it. Before I go, I want to say say diehard new york jets fan aaron rogers got to bring super bowl back to new york just like donald am did the first time in 35 years first time since 1969 aaron rogers just go get it hell yeah hell yeah he's at taylor swift this weekend they had confetti he got a chance to experience what it would be like that's right super bowl is a new york jet i think it's going to happen, pal, at some point. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to get it done. You a Taylor Swift guy? What type of music do you listen to?

No, not a huge Taylor Swift guy, honestly. I like a bunch of different types of stuff. Do you listen to music before games or just a warm-up routine? Yeah. Start with some EDM to kind of stay relaxed and then and then like an hour before the game we'll switch to some some hard it's hard rap like i love 50 cent love low low wayne jeezy and mix a little jeezy yeah jeezy's in there yeah jeezy's in there that's awesome dude

it's amazing isn't it uh it? Jeezy out of obviously Atlanta. 50 Cent out of a much different part of New York than the Cavanaugh's. And then whenever shit's about to go, tag team partner right there in the ears. Let's do it. Congrats. Enjoy Germany. Can't wait to see what you do with that trophy, pal. And good luck. Thank you. I appreciate it.

Chris, good luck with the face, pal. And great goal. Hey, great goal. That was sick. Wasn't it? I mean, that was pretty nasty. I heard Penn State had a similar goal in the semis, I heard, where the guy actually stepped into the kitchen. So you're not allowed to step in that place at all?

Yeah, no. It's called like a goal mouth. It's the dumbest addition to the sport of all time it's like a crease inside a crease i don't know why they anyone who the genius who came up with that idea i don't know what he was thinking but yeah oh ridiculous i didn't even know this was a fake rule what happened if you land like inside the the goal mouth it's called it's like the mini crease right in front of the goalie. They did it to protect goalies because guys used to dive across the crease.

And I guess a couple goalies got hurt. So they added this crease inside the crease to protect the goalies. And he actually stepped on the actual crease, but he also landed in the goal mouth. The overtime winner against Penn State to get to the national championship. So all the Penn State fans were up in arms about that. No review, right? No review either. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

They got to end that to lacrosse. I feel bad for Penn State for their season ending that way. But also, two ACC teams in the national championship. So sorry about it, Big Ten. Sorry about it, Ivey. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Pat Cavanaugh. We have depth.

We see lacrosse. That's a sport we know nothing about. People look at us and they go, Caucasian. Tank top every day. Probably doesn't know lacrosse. We went down a rabbit hole. When you're talking about notes on things, I mean, look look at all this shit i took real notes on this to try to learn the sport because i know it has a lot of history 35 years that guy's been coaching yeah

at notre dame yeah and then i've never even seen a full fucking game really of lacrosse they say it's a massive sport growing yes for me i feel like i'm into sports all sports i watch nascar this weekend i watch indycar this weekend i watch f1 this weekend if you're f1 by the way same day as indy 500 don't do the monaco race your race sucks compared to the indy 500 that was the most boring shit i've ever seen on television and i only do it because darius is so into it yes i even watched the documentary series so i don't think i fully know all the characters in f1 and everything like that. But Darius loves this thing. So I see Monaco, and I see

Conor McGregor has his yacht posted up outside. And then I start reading a stat that one in every two people in Monaco that live there are millionaires, and this is like the race. And it's the morning of the Indy 500. Yeah, I've heard the no personal income tax, nothing else. He's our show now.

He's our show based out of Monaco that was the full conversation that I had but then I get back to sports and it's Indy 500 day and the Indy 500 obviously massive here in Indianapolis but it was going to be a racing day for me this is going to be a racing day for me I see the Monaco zone I turn it on crop that was crop

pure crop no jump no movement no nothing Crop. That was crop. Pure crop. No jump. No movement. No nothing. It was crop. The best thing about it was all the yachts in the water. Some of the views that were there.

The race itself. I assume that is in every F1 race. If it is, y'all need to relax on how much we're pumping this whole thing up. Then you got people going 240 miles an hour in Indianapolis getting flipped up on their fucking heads while they're going three, four wide. In the winter, Joseph Newgarden out of Tennessee is going all the way down into pit lane, his dragon maneuver, so nobody can pit behind.

And then coming all the way back, it's like, that's a tough thing to compete with, the Indy 500, the Super Bowl, putting Monaco there. But I'll watch anything, pretty much, if it's sports. I'll watch UCLA win the national championship in men's volleyball whenever I was in the hospital with my baby. My baby was being born. It's like, congrats to them getting the big-time dub. I will watch. I never

watch lacrosse. I don't think I ever watch it, but then I started watching that. It was 6-1 or whatever. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then it moves all the way to like 7-7. And it ends up, like that game was electrifying. Yeah, and it's 6-1 or whatever. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then it moves all the way to like 7-7. And it ends up, like that game was electrifying. Yeah, and it's high scoring. That's the other thing too. With some of the sports

and granted there are games where it is 6-5, 7-6, but when they're scoring 21 goals, you know there's going to be good action no matter what. Yeah, I loved it. Physical. It was great. Physical. Way more physical than I thought it would be. They're beating the shit out of each other. More sticks. Hammering. Feel like I should give it more opportunities is what I'm it. Physical. It was great. Physical. Way more physical than I thought it would be. They're beating the shit out of each other. Hammering.

I feel like I should give it more opportunities is what I'm saying. Yeah. And now the PLL, they're on ESPN, right? Yeah, now they're on ESPN. Yep. ESPN Plus. So we're naturally probably going to see a lot more of it if I had to guess. How many games did they play in a season?

The way he talked, they only. I thought they played a lot more than that. That's what I thought. This year, I'm pretty sure they were 16-2. I don't know if last year some teams stopped playing or were ended during COVID, and then they didn't have as many games on the schedule. Oh, as programs? Yeah, like programs ended.

Because like Hofstra, we learned today, was ended, and it's not like they were a terrible program. Yeah, it's very fluid between club and D1. So you'll be a D1 team, and then all of a sudden you're just a club team basically i said title nine is a big part of that so if they were you know can't feel the women's team interesting yeah like boston college they got rid of their uh men's team i believe uh because that game was awesome to watch yeah if you didn't get a chance to see it you should watch it like i am very judgmental of the humans that are in the lacrosse world a lot of khakis ton of them ton of khakis so i immediately think like ah these people started on third base thought

they hit a triple okay hey life must be good how you doing keep it moving that's my immediate thoughts of this whole thing and then as i grow older i understand they're actually charming and real deal though like always they're like fuck those dudes i'm not and then you listen to this guy torn hammy black and blue yeah that's not playing in it and then you hear like everyone bingo five stitches and then putting a helmet right back on there he busted an eardrum yesterday too that's disgusting that would hurt so bad and then you basically all of them have like uh either a family member or a close friend that's a SEAL or an Army Ranger. Someone's like, yo, these are like a different breed of suits.

These are a different breed of yups in lacrosse. I am a big fan of what I saw the other day. Big fan. It's unbelievable. The whole weekend is awesome. It's kind of like the yup hockey, if you could look at it like that. Like they have the hockey player mentality but they just come from khakis and sometimes you know those type of areas i'll tell you what though our high school

which i think we have a lot of the build to be good at lacrosse for sure we have a girl that is yes like remarkable our school just got lacrosse the We're All Mustangs Here fund is helping a lot with the lacrosse teams at our high school. So it's been cool to kind of watch the growth and development. And then they also tweet us updates of what's going on. We had a girl score. How many goals was it? I thought it was 140. Wow.

180 maybe? Yeah, I was going to say it might have been 180 when you were out. Yeah. Something absurd. I don't remember what it was. It's like if that sport can get into all the neighborhoods, you know, I feel like it would be a great alternative for a lot of people

that have like some flaws in other sports. You know, like in football, you got to be fucking 180 goals she scored. It's absurd. Yeah. Dog, dude. She's a fucking dog. I don't know where she's going to school. I assume it's going to be somewhere. And then when she's done, she's going to have a first class ticket to some banking operation.

Goldman Sachs. In New York City or whatever. Because those khakis are still very prevalent in the entire thing. But if that was to grow, I think they should be giving sticks and balls. That's the problem. To places. And then watch that game fucking take off. Because it is an expensive sport.

Imagine it down in Atlanta. I was just going to say, we need to put that at West Lake. Imagine off the wall. Because all you need is a wall, right? And a ball. All you need is a wall and a stick. So, like, I kicked a soccer ball off the side of my house for hours at a time. Built up my leg.

Now, also blew up my knees because the thousands and thousands and thousands of times I kicked the ball off the side of the wall. But I feel very good about how strong my leg was. If I was to have a stick, I assume I would have got pretty fucking good at this whole thing. Which could probably happen to a lot of people that have an athletic gene in their body. And a lot of football players that's really not that good as far as I would say the cutting and all of that. But just physical and that can learn this. This would be a great way.

Maybe not big enough to be like NFL player or something or D1 football player. It's like if you're 6'1", like tight end position might not be for you anymore. Yeah, exactly. But if you can pick up – you're big. 6'1 is a big fucking person. Huge. On the lacrosse field, it's like that's a whole other opportunity. And it goes all the way down to like 5'8", 5' five seven like you can be the best player on the field and be that tall

and to your point about the wall ball like that's what separates like the Notre Dames and all those schools from like division two and division three are just college players in general because like if you can figure out the hands and you can catch and throw the same way that you shoot then it's just athleticism like it's some of these basketball guys who are only going to be 5'10", 5'11". It's like you got no shot really playing unless you're going to shoot lights out or whatever. Yeah. But you get a stick.

You can move a little. This is what we need you to do. You're going to have to be physical. They take some real shots. Oh, yeah. Guys got – Yeah. They busted eardrum yesterday too.

It's like they do – you do throw the body around a little bit. What's the Mickey Mouse version? It's just smaller? Is it like arena? I had no idea what he was talking about, so I haven't even heard about it. Pittsburgh used to have an arena lacrosse team. Yeah, they still... They were like hockey goalie fans.

That is less Mickey Mouse, the inside stuff. I think that the international play is like a bigger field and less hitting. Central? Yeah, which... Which is like FIBA. That's like basketball, right? Yeah, kind of. But it's more like a bigger field and less hitting. Yeah, which is like FIBA. That's like basketball, right? Yeah, kind of. But it's more hitting. Basketball is more hitting.

Yeah, FIBA is more. But it's a bigger court. Yes, and same with hockey. Let's get to a break. Ask AJ about this. This feels like a great sport for the Hawk kids. Oh, yeah. He's talking to me about it.

They're getting into it. Because it's like, could the Hawk kids, we assume, because of who their dad is, their uncles are, and everything they know about getting. Could Axel get to the NFL? I assume he will be able to. Dad ran a 4-4 at 250. Yeah. Okay.

And also, he's a Hawk. Yeah. Does AJ want him to run his face into fucking people? Right. You know, for a living. Or would you rather him potentially utilize the incredible athletic genes that are coming? A little bit of people. Right. You know, for a living. Or would you rather them potentially utilize the incredible athletic genes that are coming? A little bit of contact.

Okay, we're not, you know, soccer. Guys are going to bury soccer. But it is still a very, I mean, I don't know why you wouldn't potentially put it in there. I don't know, no.

It looks like they can have concussions too. Big as black as his eye was. Yeah, I mean, definitely. Definitely. But it's not a, yeah, it's not as constant. It's not like it every, hey, this is what you're going eye was. Yeah, I mean, definitely. But it's not as

constant. It's not like it's every, hey, this is what you're going to do. I think the worry is, do we want to put a six-foot pole in the hands of a hawk so he can just chop people down? True. That's also a worry. He would find, you know, and you do. So like in deck hockey,

it's the only thing I really know about. Guys have the elbows, and then they have the gloves. I'll never forget the first time somebody got right there. In between. And it felt like it was on purpose. I was so mad. Oh yeah.

You fucking assholes. It's brutal. So then the only thing I'm thinking about the rest of the game is, okay, I need to get that guy. I need to get that guy's wrist. That's what's crazy about the goalies. Because the goalies do bring out the ball sometimes.

I mean, let alone just standing in front of the net with no pads, except for your chest. So, shins, broken thumbs, everything. But when they take the ball out, the attackman can just wind up full swing and hit their arms. And granted, sometimes it gets called a penalty. It's a crazy sport. Yeah, it is.

That was a great national championship for them. A lot of eyes on them, a lot of action. And the Cavanaugh family, allegedly, they're a family of lacrosse. Both the older brothers in the PLL. Yeah, and Notre Dame now. Now is a man who probably would have been incredible at lacrosse. Now, granted, his fingers couldn't handle a stick right now. But back before he mangled them all,

he went on to become a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, a Ryder Cup winner but not a champion, the current champion of Ohio, a great lacrosse player, if we had to guess. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Hey, A.J., now we're just brainstorming on air,

which is what this show does. Dude, could you imagine lacrosse? Like, lacrosse could be a thing here. Yeah, I say all the time. No offense, lacrosse people. All four of my kids have recently got into lacrosse like three months ago, and I say the same thing. Like, the culture is cool.

It's fun. It's actually way more laid back than other sports. Like, coaches coach barefoot. Like, it's just a different world out there, and they can beat the hell out of each other with those sticks, too. It's kind of like our high school. We talked about this last hour. Our high school has a girl who scored 180 goals.

I didn't even know we had a girls lacrosse team. Seems like we got a fucking dog. It's like our high school, you look at the people that are there, it's like probably could be a pretty good lacrosse school if you start piecing together what has had success before, and then you start looking at other places it's like i wonder when everybody's just going to kind of kind of get into it because espn deal right i see ray bull fucking everywhere everywhere

yeah talking about it you love it though you love you think your kid's gonna have great success in it or no yeah it's awesome my 10 year old uh he's he's the one who's played the most, I guess. My two younger ones have played as well, and my daughter's playing too, which the girls' sport, they don't let them hit like they should and everything. I think eventually they let them hit the sticks and everything. But yeah, my 10-year-old's got a tournament this weekend, so yeah, we look forward to it. Okay. Let's hope it's not Dippin' Dots. Well, Dippin' Dots is supposed to be the ice cream of the future forever.

True. Oh, yeah. It's still being sold, that. Still being sold, that. The ice cream of the future. Dippin' Dots is supposed to be the ice cream of the future forever. True. Oh, yeah. It's still being sold that. Still being sold that. The ice cream of the future. Dippin' Dots are delicious, though. Fantastic. Whatever you have, you're like, this is good.

Yeah. And then right across the bottom it says ice cream of the future. It's like, is it ever going to be today? Is it ever going to be the ice cream of today? Ever? No chance. When's the future? It's always there.

Where? There. Okay. I guess in a way, though, because you have it once, and then you're not going to have it again until the future, three or four years down the road way though because you have it once and then you're not going to have it again until the future three four years down the road probably so you see it again yeah exactly i think i spoke at a dippin dots regional yes thing at indianapolis that's awesome i did i was asked to come into a sales meeting i think you had a bunch of dippin dots they had

all the carts that you've seen yes all in one place every amusement park they had them all there i went straight to the cookies and cream like i have every other time yep and i think i They had all the carts that you've seen. Yes. All in one place. Yeah, at every amusement park. They had them all. At the zoo. They had them all there. I went straight to the cookies and cream like I have every other time. Yep. And I think I even told that story. Like, hey, this is the same exact cup that I've been eating since the first time that I ate it. That's right.

When I was like, what, 12, 10 years old at Kennywood, which is an amusement park in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Yep. And then it said ice cream of the future. And then I did a motivational speech. I said, well, with you guys, we're going to drop that future. We're going to said ice cream of the future. And then I did a motivational speech. I said, but with you guys, we're going to drop that future. We're going to say ice cream of the today. How about today?

Because you guys are going to be the generation that's going to put Dippin' Dots over the old school ice cream. That blobby, melty bullshit. No, no, no. The fun niche, good time. Dippin' Dots are going to be the ice cream of today. Because you guys in this fucking room.

That was 15 years ago. Yeah. They're still around. Still in amusement parks. Still here. Are they? Zito just said they're the ice cream. They need a marketing push.

Zito said they're the ice cream of the past now. That is their. Just write an article. It's one man's opinion. It is one man's opinion, yes. Poor woman. Jesus Christ. Yeah, geez. I was talking Zito. I'm man's opinion. It is one man's opinion, yes. Poor woman. Jesus Christ. Yeah, geez, Lord.

I was talking Zito. I'm talking Zito. Oh, you thought Zito said it. Zito's saying that somebody else said it. Yes. Oh. I appreciate what you were saying, though. Zito would love...

I think Zito loves Dippin' Dots. I love Dippin' Dots. I love Dippin' Dots. They're so good. Anyways, let's get some lacrosse sticks in some hands. Yeah. Let's continue to... Let's continue to...

Dippin' Dots says here that Tell me something good please They still got cookies and cream Well it says they went bankrupt in 2011 But then they got bought I think Restructuring Get some debt out of there Just like the XFL Just like the XFL

We did some poor investments here Some poor investments there. Need to hit a reset button. Somebody buy us out of this. We're going to be the ice cream of the future. Yeah, exactly. Okay, good. Cookies and cream, Dippin' Dots still exists.

They got sold for like $220 million a couple years ago. Okay, congratulations. Wow. Is that good? Or tell me. I don't know. Of course. A lot of little tiny balls there.

$220 million worth? Yeah. A lot of that. AJ, I'm thinking about this now. You're a father of four. It was quite a Memorial Day. Happy Memorial Day weekend, too.

My beautiful baby. This is wild. I don't think I knew what I was signing up for, just the everything about it. This is crazy watching this little human kind of... I've never been around... Is it different with Memorial Day? Does it make it sink in or something, or what happens? Just watching all the activity that's happening

and then, like, projecting me have to figure that out for baby at some point. Like, there's these people out on the boats out there, and they're doing wakeboarding and shit, and they're trying to teach these little kids how to wakeboard. These kids suck. These kids got no shot. They're just boom and on their face boom on their face there was this one kid who might have ate the lake 20 straight times nice okay and they put him in how you learn but he'll

get it he did not i don't think he went through an entire memorial day weekend never fucking got up one time yes and then i'm thinking about like, oh, so something like that's going to happen to her. And I'm going to have to do a full, hey, some things just beat you. You know what I mean? Yeah. But then I started thinking, what if she does want to do this? We have a house on water. I have no idea how to do any of these things.

So what is that? Yeah, jet skiing. You just learn, man. You just figure it out. Not me, pal. Figure it out. That's what parenting is. Figure it out.

Watch a YouTube clip. I didn't know how to wakeboard. I taught myself. I ate the lake, the river, for six straight hours, and then I finally popped up once. I'm like, okay, now I can get up. It's a good time. It looks kind of boring as they're floating by, just kind of standing there. I guess people love it, though.

You're thinking wake surfing, probably. Wake surfing is when they're right behind the boat. But wakeboarding, that's when they're jumping wake to wake and doing moves and all that stuff. I've seen a guy sitting down on something. Kneeboard. No, sitting, is it? Oh, really that stuff i seen a guy sitting down on something kneeboard no sitting is it oh really like a hydrofoil thing i bet yeah yeah this one was about elevated out of the water at all yeah this one wasn't a power one though i don't think made it might have been i'm not 100 sure no they have them where you pull them they're not powered but yeah they're hydrofoil yeah so it was a pool one it was one of those ones not in backflip i

seen a back oh holy shit some high level stuff one of the first boats on the lake too like this was uh they're out there maybe 7 15 a.m well yeah that's when you get that you get that that glass you get that water nice and glassy that's what he needs bro i'm judging all these fucks i don't know if they know it there's been a couple real superstars that have come through the backyard they're unbelievable stuff but it's so much like just thinking like, oh, no. Like, I'm going to have to go through all of that with. It's crazy. This is a crazy thing.

I've never been around a human this age before. We talked about this. I've never seen humans at this stage of life before. I try to think back. Never. Never. It's wild. Why would you?

Like, why would you? Unless you had like you had, like, a younger brother or sister that all of a sudden was born 20 years after you were born? So I've seen, like, Jerry Springer, rest in peace, Dr. Phil, Judge Mathis. I watched him, Judge Mathis, this weekend. Similar vein of humans, you know, coming and going. Oprah? I'm like, they can figure it. No, definitely not Oprah.

Okay. What does this have to do with your kids? Well, that's not Oprah. Everybody else, they can figure it out. No, definitely not Oprah. What does this have to do with your kids? Well, that's not Oprah. Everybody else, they've all figured out parenting. They've kept kids alive. Because normally them fighting over the kid is normally a part of the whole thing. And I'm like, these people suck. This person sucks.

This person sucks. They're able to keep a kid alive. They're able to do it. I should be able to do it. So I didn't Google anything. Baby comes two weeks early. I have no clue what i'm signing up for it is wild what is happening there what aj it is wild i know it yeah you don't know until you get there that's the thing you can do whatever you want before you have a kid but you don't know until it's full it's there like okay

well every second of every day this person relies on me that's what they need the wife kicking so much ass so i'm very very grateful for that but i start thinking like if people the amount of times i think if somebody had twins how oh man triplets like those people that had eight kids anybody that's ever had a child before it's like this relationship's fucked yeah there's no way they're gonna be able to hold up for eight kids like how two kids twins triplets what dude how i don't even know but once you hold her you know my older i look at her it's like you're you're mine dude like let's be a good human you know what i mean and then she starts screaming in my face yeah

and you try to put the binky in her mouth she spits it out right in my face it's like you just ate an hour and 45 minutes ago. You got to eat again. Yeah, here's the hole. I don't know how Orlovsky did this. I have no idea. Think about how many times he was yelled at by all three of them at the same time. Oh, man.

Same exact time. It's unbelievable. Takes a long time, too, until they're not doing that, right? I don't know. The more we go on, the— It don't take that long. See, I don't think that's accurate. It don't take that long. I don't know if that's accurate more we go on the it don't take that long see that's i don't think that's accurate i don't think i don't know if that's accurate because i'm told for what hey

it's easier as you go on it does it seems like she's just getting louder after the bottle it's gonna get a whole lot easier when's the bottle done when's that usually around a year yeah well then you'll get to when they become when they become mobile though like the two three four years old when they're mobile those first couple years, that's when you're like, okay, now you can't turn your back. You can't turn your head because they'll run down the stairs. And my kid, and sorry, Sam, she knows this, like my kid's going to be a fucking asshole, you know?

And she's going to go. So you set up those gates, right? Yeah, I put up the gates. Like a dog, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Set them up, and then you can leave the house and leave pet. Like a dog, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Set them up, and then you can leave the house and leave the kid for six, seven hours. Can't do that.

No. Those are like dog days. What's that? Whenever they're walking. Okay, got it. Dog days. Got it. You feel good?

That was a good one, Z. What? Yeah, baby Z. All right, let's talk about some sports stuff, shall we? How about the Boston Celtics, huh? Taking it all the way to game seven after being down 3-0 and then losing by 30. I mean, what a night in the garden. They never really had a shot.

They got that picture of Bill Simmons who flew across the country to go watch that game with his dad afterwards, and he obviously looked pretty emotionally spent, exhausted, about what he had just watched the Boston Celtics put on the court against the Miami Heat. But this is becoming a thing now where Boston has so much success, so much optimism, so much positive things in the sports world, and then just heartbreak city in the bigger moments,

which has poised this question here, AJ. With how much Boston has won, obviously you would say to yourself, it would be fantastic to be a New England fan of any sport, because at least I know championships, or the thought of championships, are there every single year, and we're actually going to go. They've had some fucking heartbreaking

losses. You know the ones that hurt the most. I talked about going into that Super Bowl locker room after we lost, and obviously I say we because I was wearing a uniform. I was nowhere near the reason why we were there or why we lost, which is cool. Happy that that's the case. Walking in a locker room, most

devastated locker room I've ever been in in my life because how high the stakes were. Game 7, Eastern Conference Finals, you're about to be on the brink of history, being the first NBA team to ever come back from being down 3-0. You got a squad. You got a great team. And then

this eighth seed comes in, and they fucking steamroll you. So not even a moment of like, this is cool. It's like from basically as soon as the Heat took the lead, they never relented. How do you feel about that argument and conversation that's happening? Would you rather be a fan of a team

that loses Game 7 East Conference Final, or would you rather be a fan of a team that loses game seven, East Conference Final, or would you rather be a fan of the team that just doesn't even make it so there's no expectations at all? I think people are naturally going to say, I want my team to go to the Conference Finals. But look at Bill Simmons' fucking face, and then look at Conor's face after thinking they were going to the Finals.

You know what I mean, AJ? That should be noted. That's why this made it so much tougher, I guess, for all the Boston fans because, yeah, they're down 3-0. They come back, force a game seven in Boston. You're like, here we go. This is awesome. Like, what a Cinderella story almost.

We're going to do – yeah, we started off slow, but we're going to set history and do something that's never been done before. And like you said, I think they came out and they were 0 for 12 shooting to start the game. From three. From three, yeah. This is not great. Yeah.

And Tatum rolls his ankle right away, which is not great luck. And they just looked. They're getting the ball stolen, it seems like, multiple times throughout the night. It was just tough. Tough all around. Tough evening for the Boston Celtics. Pac-Man, were you pumped to see Boston lose? Was that something that you ever thought about in your life last night?

Really, I wish they would have lost a couple games ago so he didn't have to be as fucking depressed when I fucking called him. I got you. Last night, yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know about that. Yeah, he was pretty down. What do you mean? That tweet of all the losses, though.

That tweet of all the losses. Those are big, like, obviously last night. Still better to get there and lose, though. Still better to get there. It is. I concur completely. As a Detroit sports fan, I think the last decade has potentially been the worst decade for any city in the history of sports,

and you just kind of forget about your teams. Like, you just don't care at all. And to have that feeling of, like, we have a chance, to have that feeling of, like, oh, my God, we are at least in this thing, is so much better even if you experience the heartbreak. I agree. As somebody that lives in Indianapolis now and would like to see all of our teams do very well

because you'd be cool for the city and everything like that. But watch. At the moment. He's right. You got that Pittsburgh soccercer Club, though. Yeah, for Hans. Hell yeah. Now, that's not in Indianapolis, so that is six hours away.

Right. If we want to enjoy a night with the boys. Yeah. The Han Tan out there. But it's good for the city whenever teams are doing well. Exactly. So it's obviously good for New England and good for Boston. But you guys are suffering some devastating losses,

which I guess warrants a little convo on the internet, which is going to talk about it. For sure. And last night specifically, like once Tatum had that ankle right away and sometimes the rolled ankle, it just takes you a little bit and then you're fine. And then maybe after the game you were sore. That was a very, very bad, you know, landing on someone else's foot, the entire ankle. And it's not like Tatum is a small guy.

Guy's like 250 pounds. I mean, he was going to be fucked, and then after that, that was it. They're really, yeah, 6'9", I think. He's a big motherfucker. Jason Tatum, 6'9", 250? I think so. Big dude. Yeah, he's huge.

Holy shit. But that's why it wasn't as depressing as what Pac-Man just said. 6'9". Right? I did not know he was that big. He is a big son of a bitch. He's listed at 6'8", but he's listed at 2'10". He could be 2'50", though.

There's no way. 6'8". He's huge. 6'5". 6'9", 2'50". I'm like, Jesus Christ, these humans are just running around. The guy's playing D-End in the NFL. There's just no way.

6'9", 2'50". There's no way he's 2'09". Why? Because he 250. There's no way he's 209. Why? Because he's 6'8", and he's fucking built. He is kind of jock. Yeah, he's jock. But either way, it wasn't that depressing just because that happened. And after that happened, it was, okay, well,

Jason Tatum isn't going to do what he did against Philly in game seven where he had 51 fucking points. And we lost by 19. Jason Tatum is going to do what he did against Philly in Game 7. We're at 51 fucking points, and we lost by 19. Jason Tatum had 13 points. I think it's safe to say that if he maybe was able to actually play and the offense could run through him the way it was, that'd be nice. But that graphic is also incredibly misleading. It's missing three Super Bowls.

It's missing two World Series. It's missing the Stanley Cup final. We're talking about the losses. Absolutely, but if we're going to talk about the worst, we're going to talk about the best, we've got to talk about the best. So, yeah, it is something. But if you think that you would rather have your team not make it to Game 7, then you're just a fucking loser.

There's people saying that on the internet. Yep, if you're out there and you're saying that on the internet, make sure when you go to bed tonight you look at yourself and say, I am a fucking loser. I am always going to be a fucking loser, especially if that's how I feel, and you're never going to deserve to win. And it goes back to the same thing when it was the Bruins in Game 7, and I screamed and my neighbor had to come over and knock on my door

and say, hey, can you keep it down? What's going on? And I say, sorry, Game 7 against the Bruins. She said, who cares? We're in Indianapolis. That's what some losing cities are like. They don't care about Hawks. There's not an NHL team here, dude. They don't care. It. There's not an NHL team here, dude. They don't care. It doesn't matter, though.

Well, you don't care. The reasoning, if she said, I didn't even know hockey was on, sure. But the reasoning being, we're in Indiana. Yeah, I remember what Tom Brady did to this place. Yeah, and if it was the Patriots, sure. Do you think that the hatred for the Patriots fans is just for football you think that people are like I mean you know what outside the Patriots love what the Bruins are doing in this city there's more Celtics gear than it's Boston them probably here for as far as

Boston teams this place has so many Celtics gear because of Larry Bird so I get that thought but if that was the thought then they would have hated the Celtics too, whether Larry Bird was there. I mean, quite a reach. I mean, Nick from French Lick being a popular person here in Indiana versus anybody from Indianapolis liking other Boston things but not liking the Patriots. You're expecting a lot out of people. But the Bruins are also irrelevant.

Like if there was a hockey team here and they hated the Bruins, fine, but there's no hockey team here. Yeah, but that's what she's saying. Like who gives a fuck about the Boston Bruins? You're in Indianapolis. I actually kind of like that. She hates Boston. No, because there wasn't even that.

She hates the fact that you guys even exist. She's a dog, dude. You need to say she's a dog. I don't think she knew that we exist. That's why just saying, like, hey, it's the game set for the playoffs. There are some hipsters here in Indianapolis. Saturday night I was at a place and it had a basketball game on

every single TV and someone I was with said, hey, can we get the Knights game up there? And they laughed him out of the bar. Seriously? You want us to put a hockey game on it? Yeah, exactly. They don't care about fucking hockey. That's crazy to think about because it's such a good sport. It'd be a love kid.

How about the Golden Knights do it? Let's go man Where are you getting those photos from that you're posting From behind the glass? I got AI You got AI got a seat out there? You see these things he posts on his Instagram? Probably you're an influencer you're on there all the time

He'll post a photo from behind the glass Like directly behind the net Like let's go stoner and I'm like Did Pac-Man fly to the fucking Fly to the game and then the next one will be him smoking his own weed at his house like okay not at the game but certainly has a photographer at the game did you watch any of this vegas golden knights dallas stars game oh yeah it seemed like eerily quiet i guess because they jumped out how much were they up early? 3-0 after the first period. This right here, Pac.

I thought Pac was at the game when I saw this clip of that. I was like, sweet, Pac's at the game and he's sitting right on the glass. He's on the glass. This dude's living on the glass. Behind the neck, but I see him in all these shots. And then there he is back home, obviously. Yeah, it was 3-0, 4-0 early. Ends up being 6-0.

Just no fight out of the Dallas Stars. None. None. None. None. None. None. And I'll be honest, I was a little worried after Saturday night's game when the Golden Knights kind of laid an egg a little bit. Is that Axel?

Is that Axel? Yeah. Yeah. He's out of school. Nice. Nice. I'm doing a show. Turn the light off.

Tell him to get that lacrosse stick. He's probably looking for it. That's the problem. He'll be good. He'll quiet down. So where you're at right now in that house, I got a chance to be at the palatial estate that you have. That is away and up. He's separated

from everything else. He's going to be around there for a while, right? He would have to leave the platoon almost to go in other places. He's just going to hang. Tumper, come on in. Now, you saw the light side that he had turned on and went off, so he went back down and turned him off. He probably found a stick. You never know. They're on the wall.

You're a little worried, though, after they win two. Yeah, just a tad bit because there was just no fight, no grit, no sound paper, no jam, and it was pretty evident from about the second period on. But then I was thinking, you know, none of the boys would probably admit it. Stoner certainly wouldn't admit it. Jackie Aces wouldn't admit it. But we saw what Chris Angel did before game five.

I mean, you have the greatest magician on the face of the earth. How do you go out and perform and play a hockey game after witnessing something like that? So it was okay. It was okay. We just, you know, we'll move on to game six. And like I said last week, there is nothing sweeter than just ripping the heart out of an opposing team, you know, in their own building.

That was the worst elimination game lost that the Stars have had since they were the Minnesota North Stars. Wow. And they had Mike Madonna and Basil McCray playing. Wow. So, you know, I don't know. Did we maybe end the franchise as a whole? What?

Potentially. But now, I mean, it's all eyes on fucking Saturday. Here we go. Florida Panthers coming to town. And let's just say the Golden Knights, the Calvary, we're ready to hunt. I like Chuck. Chuck. Yeah, he was good on Inside the NBA.

Yeah, it was a great interview. Shaq said, I know nothing about your sport, but. I like that you guys fighting us about it. it was a great interview. Shaq said, I know nothing about your sport, but... I like that you guys fighting us about it. It was a great interview. It was like, at the beginning, if you watch, I thought they were potentially going to get him out of there in a minute and a half. Very quickly. Because of Ernie and Chuck being the only two

that knew anything at all about hockey to ask him any questions. But then they all started loosening up. Shaq started firing some things in. Kenny started firing some things Kenny started firing it was a great conversation I think he represented himself well I think so too I think he represented the NHL very well I didn't realize he was as young as he is either he's a young dude like you know I don't know why I just seem like anytime I see a hockey player I assume like oh

this guy's over 30 just because they're always kind of like rough and rugged they don't talk yeah exactly don't talk very much like he's a young dude I think he's Tatum's age right like he's very young still and to be to go. I think he's Tatum's age, right? He's very young still. And to be... He's obviously never been in a situation like that. He did well for himself up there. He did well for the NHL. Excited for it. And also Pac-Man being a massive fan. Huge for

the NHL. I think they've had a great playoffs. The last two games, the Golden Knights and Stars games were so entertaining. I mean, especially if you don't really like hockey, it can be hard to just follow the puck in general. But there were just so many scoring opportunities back and forth in both of those games, almost for the entire first period.

I don't know how you'd watch the first period and be like, okay, I'm in for the rest of this. They need to bring Tracer back. That would help. Don't you think, AJ? That would be so awesome. I'm all for it. I know, but diehard hockey people hate it.

Yeah, but they also hate the fucking Skycam coming down behind that. Right, which is sick. The thing they do on the power play, which is sweet, is when they have whoever has the puck has a little arrow with the name above it. Yeah, I like that. Because it's an easier way to follow the puck, too. Yeah, I don't. But it's just power play.

Yeah. If you're into it, you can watch it, though. Because, like, I'm into it now. Like, I like the view that we're in. Is he there or not? Did we decide? Have we found out if he was at the arena or not? No, he wasn't there.

He's got somebody on the inside. Seems like he was at a place. That needs to be somebody that works there, too, because that looks like that's Zambone. Yeah. There's no seats where he took the photo at. So that's somebody that works in the building sending Pac, or Pac has a follow of somebody that has the access to it.

Great. Whatever it is, good find. Yeah. Unbelievable. Isn't it Tech Joe? Put you in the building. No, it's not Tech Joe. It's my AI.

I thought Tech Joe was in. I did text Stoner before the game. I said, Jamie's back tonight. You make sure y'all go kick his ass. Yeah. Fire the boys up a little bit. And they didn't need to. I said, Jamie's back tonight. You make sure y'all go kick his ass. Yeah. Fire the boys up a little bit. And they didn't need to. He didn't do a goddamn thing.

And I believe he was minus two on the night. They scored two quick goals when he was on the ice. So, yeah, karma has a funny way of finding its own. All right, we're waiting on Darius Butler. He was supposed to join us here a little bit ago. I believe he's wrapping up his program and his day. Was going to keep the conversation on South Florida stuff. But we will visit back to it because Miami is the talk of the town

in the sports world with both the Heat and the Panthers in the finals for the NBA and the NHL. And remember, we're in the finals, so we're just four games away in both sports from being over. And we've got 100 days until the NFL. So let's enjoy the shit out of these. Let's enjoy these sports as much as Aaron Rodgers enjoyed Taylor Swift. Hell yeah.

AJ, this guy was having – He's a big fan. He was vibing, man. I hope to one day have a time like that yet again somewhere, someplace at MetLife Stadium nonetheless happening. He was crushing it, as did T. Swift. And here's Kelly Teller, Miles Teller, and Aaron. And I believe as soon as the confetti fell on his face,

Miles, who is not only a rooster and top dog and everything he's in, even when Tom Cruise is in the movie. Wow. What's that? That's just not true, but you can continue. Okay, okay, great actor. Yeah, great actor yeah great great dude got to hang out with exactly yeah he's good golfer good golfer so he's an actor you know

he's a thespian so when he had that confetti falling on him he was like oh when's the next time we're gonna be doing this and he was a little boozed up at taylor swift he looked he was right he's like aaron this is gonna be next time we do this when you win the fuck super bowl so then he starts screaming and aaron starts screaming and then a Aaron put out a quote about how he cannot wait to be in MetLife Stadium. He's endearing himself to that fan base, I think, in a massive way. And then all the Taylor Swift fans were like, wait, this guy that got the COVID

and didn't get the... This dude loves Swift. He's like, gosh, what a baby-faced weekend for Aaron Rodgers. He had to have the time of his life, AJ. I think it gained some fans. I know even my brother was telling me his daughter, who's a freshman in high school, he's always liked Aaron, but now Aaron's by far her

favorite player because of this. Because he's such a diehard Swifty, I guess. I believe Kelly Teller had a video of him singing August, which was the song off the Folklore album that he said is his favorite one. I don't know. I couldn't tell what note he was hitting, but it was certainly every word.

Oh, yeah. Every word walked in. He won two nights, right? Two back. He was all back. They said she sold 215,000-some tickets at MetLife Stadium. For MetLife? Jesus.

Okay. You start doing the math. Let's just say the average ticket price, which is absurd. Here's the photo of the whole crew, by the way. How did we get such a high-res photo? Well, that's good. I think this was actually Aaron's flip phone because he didn't want which is absurd. Here's the photo of the whole crew, by the way. How did we get such a high-res photo? Well, that's good. I think this was actually Aaron's flip phone because he didn't want anybody tracking him. You know what I mean?

Probably. Probably right. You're right, though. You would think that one would potentially be a little bit clearer because of how much star power is in there. But let's just say it's an average ticket price, like $500, which it could be. I looked it up. It might be more. In Houston, it was $1,300.

Somewhere else, it was $1,700. So in New York, let's just say. $108 million. $108 million at $500. So you can just go up. She made so much money in MetLife Stadium this past weekend. And then she'll pick that up and go do another one. Oh, yeah.

She is a fucking beast. Yeah. You watch that documentary on her, too? She's a workhorse. Like, she is an absolute workhorse. That's why the whole passion that she has whenever people have her rights and everything is because she's in there.

She's writing it. She's singing it. She's producing it. She is an absolute dog, dude. And it seems like she's got the whole world on her side. And Aaron Rodgers is certainly one of them. And I was looking at it. I'm like, damn, he's really tuned into this song.

Do you think he could be invested on the tour? And just sitting there like, yes. Oh, you think he's got money? Money. You think he's got money involved? The confetti is the money that's falling. I would say, after watching that doc, Taylor probably owns everything.

100%. She rented the stadium, she employed everybody in there. And then sold all the tickets through Ticketmaster because she was forced to. And when they fucked up, she was like, I could have done this better myself. She's a dog. And congrats to her and Aaron having a great weekend

seemingly. And just genius with what you mentioned with the music rights. She has re-released previous albums that are her versions of them. And then those albums get resold, and then they make it back onto Billboard 100. The way she has done the—I forget if it was Scooter Braun. Scooter Braun. Scooter Braun, she thought, screwed him over, right?

Yeah, exactly. And then she got those back, and that's what I guess a lot of artists are trying to do. And then after she got those back, she's able to re-release albums that already sold, you know, millions of copies to sell more copies. It's just genius. Just would like to let everybody know, and I know it's just music and just singing and things like that.

The amount of mental stress it takes to do all the shit that she does. She has to get incredibly exhausted at times. I would assume she does. So for her to do as many shows as she does and pump out as much good shit as she pumps out, you're talking about like a superhuman at this point. She also just released a couple

songs this past weekend out of nowhere. Which is just classic. Also the expectation now. Look at these concerts. Look how much money people are paying for this. You can't have an off night. This needs to be the best concert, the best night of these people's lives and she's delivering. And everybody's having the best night of their life.

Yep. Aren't they, AJ? Yeah, man. He can name, like, he'll sit there and name albums, songs, everything. He knows it all. I don't think he's the only one. They were doing this interview around the AFCs, the New England Patriots. Like, what's your favorite Taylor Swift song?

And, like, 15 out of 17 of the people interviewed had answers and actually understood it. It's like, she's cracked them all. Remember, she was country, and then she said, nah, fuck it. I'm everything. Yeah. And she's selling out every stadium. Congrats to Taylor. Congrats to Aaron.

Join us now. Congrats to this guy. His time, South Florida. Never mind. He just dropped off. Oh, butchie. Butch. Where do the Florida Panthers play?

They have their own hockey arena. Paradise? Heaven? Is it in Lauderdale? It's right by Fort Lauderdale. No, it's a town, though. They showcased it because they wanted to... You could tell that the town... Is it Paradise?

Sunrise. Sunrise. Sunrise. Close. Paradise. Jeez. Paradise, Florida, also a great place. Sunrise.

You could tell that it seemed like the Sunrise town was like, hey, can we let people know that you're in Sunrise? Because it was on a map and it said Sunrise. It's like that's a very, instead of just saying like Miami or South Florida. Unique. It's like unique. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is not a man from Sunrise, but he is from South Florida.

Has a chance to enjoy the hell. Out of two local teams, maybe winning it all over the next couple weeks. He's a fan of F1. Don't know how. That race was crap. Crap. Absolute crap. Crap.

In Monaco. He's a stallion. He's a stud. Host of Everything DB and the Man to Man podcast. There's Butler. Oh, look. We got the jersey. We got the sweater.

Hey, what up, Ty? What up, Ty? What up, Pat? What up, stoner fans over there? Fucking enjoy these next few days, sweater. Hey, what up, Ty? What up, Ty? What up, Pat? What up, Stoner fans over there? Enjoy these next few days, pal. You drink it in. You enjoy these next few days because fucking hell's coming on Saturday and he's bringing Stoner with him.

Hey, Ty, unlike all those other teams over there in the beautiful Thunderdome, all my teams are still playing. So I will enjoy these next couple days. These next couple weeks, I will enjoy it, fellas. I did go to elementary school in Sunrise, by the way. Okay, where is Sunrise?

Sunrise is a little north in between Miami and Lauderdale. Fort Lauderdale, it's like a sub-city of Fort Lauderdale. It would be like the Carmel in Indianapolis. It's not that, you know, I wouldn't compare Sunrise to Carmel, but you know what I mean. Yeah, it's a suburb of the city. So Fort Lauderdale is up here a little bit.

Miami down yonder, right? And then is it in between those two? Yep, Miami down south. You got Palm Beach up here, and then you got Fort Lauderdale in between. So Miami, obviously, the heater down here. Panthers up here, and then you got, you know, Palm Beach up. That's where Brooks is from up here in Palm Beach. So you know, and I know, about half hour west of the elbow room okay okay so it's inland a little

bit yeah not on the coast there how long's drive from one place to the next uh if you go from south beach to west palm beach that's probably a good hour and 15, hour and 20. And then once you go probably about 45 minutes north of West Palm Beach, you're in a whole different state. Now you're back in the deep south. So it's kind of different down here. Down here, once you pass into West Palm Beach, you know, pots and pans, we're celebrating the heat, panthers.

Once you go up a little bit north, I wouldn't be driving through there at 2 o'clock in the morning. A little different up there. You wouldn't be driving there? Me driving there? A little different up there. If I'm taking a road trip, I leave about 5 in the morning. I make sure it's nice and daylight. I would be

North Florida, South Georgia. Okay. Smart. Sounds like that's a smart decision. Happy you've made those decisions that have led you to this moment. Which team do you think has a legitimate chance? You don't think the Heat have a chance against the Nuggets, huh? Because Joker's too damn good. That's why you got the Florida Panthers sweater on? No, come on now.

I know both of these teams have a chance. We know it. This is sports. You don't get to the finals by accident, especially in either of these sports where you're playing best of seven series. It's not like football. You go out there for three hours and you're the better team and you get some bounces your way.

These are best of seven series. And the damn, the Panthers, I mean, sweet, 4-1 with the Leafs. Obviously, game seven, the Bruins, but they've been on a tear since that first round. And in the heat, they've been in dogfights. They had to fight their way to get into the playoffs. But game seven on the road and that environment up there in Boston, for them to pull that out, that was tough.

And I feel like we got the best coach in the league coaching our team. Obviously, Pat Riley, he's been a part of 25% of all NBA finals ever. We got Jimmy Butler, possibly a hero coming back. And Jack Harlow, too. What a freaking fraud that dude is. Whoa! Showing up with the Celtics jersey after dropping that terrible album.

So shots at Harlow. Whoa! I didn't even know that. He's a Tyler Hero fan. He's a fraud. He's a fraud. That's exactly what he is. What do you mean?

What'd he do? What'd he do? You know, I think it was courtside. I saw him at least come out in the Celtics. He had like a Celtics. Kind of looked like a Letterman coat. Literally sitting probably, you know, 20 seats down from Tyler Hero. So I felt some type of way about that.

But hopefully we get Hero back. Obviously, he's a 20-point... Who's that? I didn't see that yet. I didn't see that. I don't know if you should. Rumor has it it's unbelievable. Well, the thing about it is... I'm gonna check it out. I'm gonna give it a chance. That was a classic. How old were we when we watched the first White Men Can't Jump?

You know? Yeah. Versus now? You know, it's kind of a different judgment. I will say say in the character development of the movies okay billy ho oh yeah was lovable early right away you know jogging down those steps going into the thing the way he was dressed like kind of lovable early shit talk kind of a baby face but mysterious doofus will get in his own way. You kind of learn that quick. They try to make Harlow hated immediately off, like, the start of the movie. Oh. You watched it, Pat?

What did they do? You watched a couple minutes, obviously. We know you didn't watch it, but what did you see? I watched nine, ten minutes. Whenever they brought in the stem cells things, I was just like, come on. Yeah, he was like a hippie shooting coach so he played for gonzaga yeah it was an interesting it was an interesting way for his character after being such a big fan of billy ho you know what i mean like billy ho was like the perfect

character i feel like just a dipshit scumbag but kind of liked him and he was a baller very lovable that was a great those are great actors too but you know that original yeah you know well i'm not gonna question jack harlow's thespianism yeah but woody nielsen also has the greatest monologue in the history of snl like the the resume that woody has put together for himself is just different oh you love that huh i love woody yeah when he pitched that movie you're talking about that movie yeah yeah and genius and not to mention true detective i mean the the things Woody has done cement him as one of if not the greatest. He went to college here in Indiana. Yeah, one of the greatest actors of all time.

Smokes a lot of dope. He's McConaughey's brother. Anyways, I did not know Jack turned his back on Tyler Eero. Yep, there's I. I didn't know. It seems like you guys know. That's bullshit. Bad juju. Jesus Christ! If I saw this, I wouldn't even watch the game

No wonder Tate got hurt He got a Fuck Button up to the top too What a Yeah Clown

Nah he's got a wrist He's got a wrist He's got a wrist When I saw Tatum When I saw Tatum show up With the KG Anything is possible I'm like

Oh shit This might be true Obviously he rolled his ankle In the first offensive play Of the game. That's possible. We'd love to see him healthy. But, you know, great job by my guys finishing on the road.

That's tough. But I give them a chance, obviously, a heat in seven, I think, in that series. And then for the Panthers, Golden Knights, I think that'll go to six. But I think we'll close that out at home down here in Sunrise. Go ahead, AJ. Sorry about it. D-Bud, honestly, what happened to the Celtics? They fight all the way back, game seven at home, and the game's not even very close.

Our best fucking player got hurt, okay? Our best player, the guy who averaged the most points out of any player in the fucking series got hurt, AJ, okay? Fuck! Okay. Other than that, D-Bud, what do you think happened? fuck okay hey other than that what do you think happened hey look he he played 42 minutes and we all know look you're out there you're out there you know you're playing obviously suck that he rolled his ankle 13 but you're out there you're lebron played with a bad foot jimmy had a bad

like people were hurt y'all uh who's uh gabe vincent he missed game five with an injury look it happens it sucks but that's when your other all-NBA guy is supposed to step up. Jalen Brown, he's supposed to step up and take over at that game. Derek Wright stepped up. He felt like he was MJ. He was getting calls. He was getting to the lines. I appreciate the dog in him.

But Tatum still played his ass off. But I just think, ultimately, look, the Celtics were the more talented team, for sure. But when you look how they play as a team and that Miami Heat team, like whoever gets in that line of work, it's Kyle Lowry stepping up, making big plays. Jimmy Butler, whoever, Zeller coming in, making his impact show. Caleb Martin. Caleb Martin, obviously, who a lot of people think should have been the Eastern Conference Finals MVP.

For sure. But Jimmy Butler and Cole, I mean, they're dogs. And the coaching, obviously, it came from that standpoint too. But I just think as a team, we play together. And, you know, we couldn't lose four in a row. We could not be on the other side of history letting that 0-3 lead slip through our hands. Spoh, after game six, his message after that game,

like, you can tell it resonated in that locker room. I like, I'm a big fan of old Spoh. Yeah, he's awesome. Every interview in that locker room i like i'm a big fan of spoh yeah yeah every interview he gives it seems like he's a cool guy you know what i mean almost too cool sometimes makes me want to go i don't smack this kind of mouth sure but then you like listen to him it's like it seems like he's got the guys yeah yeah like they were like what's in your cup he's like i'm not gonna tell you what's in my cup i'm like hey just say what's in the fuck yeah that was my initial thought but then I listened to like how his team talks about him. And then you watch what they do.

It's like, Hey, this guy's really, really talented coach out here. It seems like we need to put a little bit more respect on his name. You get to the championship, the finals. That's a good way to earn respect.

Six times for him. Bro. And won a bunch. And won a bunch. Nobody's giving you guys a shot, though. No, no, no. You know that, right? I mean, that's legitimately happening.

I assume everybody in Miami knows this is happening. Nobody thinks you guys have a chance. Why is that? Because Joker's too big of a dog? Well, I mean, that's part of it. Should have won. I voted for, not that I have a vote, but on the pod, I voted for Joel Embiid to win the MVP this year.

Very nice of you. Joker, best player in the league, right? He Joel Embiid to win the MVP this year. Joker, best player in the league, right? He's the best player in the league. They are well-rested, and you look at the road that they've been through. The Suns, the KD and Booker swept the Lakers, obviously mopped the floor with the Timberwolves, and now they've been resting for the finals for

nine, ten days. So, of course, we're not going to have a shot. We didn't have a shot coming into the playoffs. We were in the play-in, lost the first play-in game. So, of course, we didn't going to have a shot. We didn't have a shot coming into the playoffs. You know, we were in the play-in, lost the first play-in game. So, of course, we didn't have a shot. Even when it got down to the final four, we were still like plus 1,400 to win it. Three percent chance to win the series. We've been the underdogs. That's kind of where we want to be.

But I do think, obviously, we got a chance. Once again, we don't get to the finals by mistake. This Nuggets team, it's the first time for them, too. It's the first time for the Joker been on this big stage. They are a well-oiled machine. He is a bully. He always makes the right plays. It's not a bunch of ISO balls.

It's going to come down to if they're hitting shots, it's going to be tough. We got a nice little zone defense that we run. That shit is not going to work. They're going to shoot you four times. You cannot play against Denver, bro. Let's get out of here with that. We had the same conversation. I had the same conversation with Connor earlier.

Oh, they can play the zone. You play that zone, man, they're going to shoot. We will shoot y'all up out the gym. This will not even go five games as y'all come in playing that zone. Come on, keep going. Y'all got away with it, with the Celtics, which is not a good shooting thing. Y'all can't do this against Denver, bro.

Come on, bro. You didn't even say about how everything rolled y'all way to get to where y'all was at right now. The Celtics had guys hurt coming into this game. Not only the main star got hurt in the game.

Yeah, the Celtics. You think. You know what I mean? No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Oh, okay. Well, you are saying they can't shoot, but Brogdon and Al Horford were both top five and three-point percentage this year, but I assume.

Yeah. Hey, they were feeding Horford yesterday. Horford had him like the guy. They had to. I mean. Second in the league. Three-point percentage. Yeah.

Tatum's the leading scorer, and our third leading scorer is Malcolm Brogdon, and he has a torn... Sixth man of the year? Sixth man of the year. Unbelievable player, but he don't have a jump shot. Darius, what if you guys lose? I don't like to be negative. What if you guys lose both? Oh, no. It would suck. I mean, it would absolutely suck. I mean, that's tough. But for the

Panthers, you know, first time since 96 being there, and... You were there, right? Now, obviously, I've had this jersey for a long time, obviously. I wore this jersey, went to the game with my pops, the closeout game, and went to, like, the bar area for, like, you know, in one of the intermissions. I just hear guys, oh, now you know who the captain is. Oh.

I'm a big fan of this show, so shout out to him. But, yes, obviously I know who the captain is. Oh. Come over. You know, big fan of the show, so shout out. But, yes, obviously I know who the captain is. Okay. He's on the shirt. What's his last name? Okay. Obviously. Anyway, I'll move past that.

I think we're going to win both of these series. Even if we win one, we'll feel great down here. He has had much more success in the playoffs, you know, in the last, you know, 15, 20 years, obviously. But Panthers, it would be crazy if they won one. But we're not losing both. I know that. We ain't losing both.

Happy to see that C on the chest, too. You remember? Oh, yeah. That was in the group text, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. Because A is not the A. What's that? Was that not a fair question, guys?

That was a bad question. Yeah, certainly. But whenever people are yelling at you, oh, no, you know. Mm-hmm. You know, but I think, and this is true for all sport including like lacrosse it's like hey anytime people like are getting introduced to your sport like yo come like hockey's a fucking good one isn't it you think it's you think it's blown up down there in south florida or no oh yeah for sure and the thing about it my sister used to

dance for the panthers so i went to probably three games and i've never never – it's tough to watch on TV, especially not used to it. It's tough to follow the puck. You don't know what's really going on. You don't know what icing or these different rules. But when you're in the arena, like the energy – I've never been to a bad hockey game. Like, you know, it's just the energy is electric in there. I think it will blow up. You know, you start a team, every store you go in now, you're seeing more Panthers gear.

You're seeing more Panthers jersey pop up. I mean, it's South Florida, so obviously a lot of people down here didn't grow up watching or playing hockey. But once you have a winning team, that's going to bring... And it's not in Miami either, so it's a little further away from Miami, a little more distant. I think it's going to be electric, especially

with people coming from Vegas to Miami. That's going to be a dope time for the NHL. But I'm so glad. I'm so happy to hear that Pac-Man is against us in both of these series. I feel much, much better about both of these series. Jeez! I told you that at 35 this morning. I told you that.

You're singing the praise of these Nuggets now. I remember talking to you about this Joker LeBron series going into it. You thought that was good. That was the only thing I was wrong about. Hey, you got to be Joker, bro. He beat the King. You show me that you can be Joker. I just learned another story about LeBron from Austin Rivers.

Yeah. Basically said down in the bubble that, what's his face? Haslam? Yeah. Who's still on the team right now. Oh, yeah. Not a coach. He's a player on the team. That's right. down in the bubble that, what's his face, Haslam? Yeah, he's Haslam. Who's still on the team right now. Oh, yeah. Not a coach. He's a player on the team.

That's right. If they need him to go out there and set a block, he will. He's out there doing it. He's important, guys. He's important. Sure. Yeah, massive piece of the whole puzzle. Yeah, he's important.

You remember that Jimmy Spoh little dust-up earlier in the year? If you don't have a guy like UD to step in and tell Jimmy, I beat your ass, he's probably fired like Trey Young's coach. So, you know, you got to have some of them old heads in there and sometimes keep that culture, you know, going. So, shout-out to UD, man. He about to go out on the right note. Tone Diggs has a question for you here about the electricity of these games.

Yeah, I've seen Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel firing up the crowd at both events, the Panthers and the Heat. Is there any chance his stick runs old and people outside of Miami start hating him? I mean, outside of Miami, we don't care. We could care less. But, I mean, it's going to be more pressure on them, honestly, going into this season.

You know, down here, obviously, you had UM has some success. FAU has success. Now you got the Panthers. You got the Heat. You know, we all know football is king. So, the Dolphins, you went and got Jalen Ramsey. You went and got some pieces. This is your second year.

We got to keep Tua healthy. But the expectations are sky high. As long as Mike McDaniel, we know this in sports. I don't care. Almost anything. As long as you win, you're good. Once you get ugly, I see those judo moves over there, too, Pat. But once you get ugly, it gets different.

So as long as we're winning, I think Mike McDaniel, he'll be cool down here. We don't care what people outside of the building. Everybody hates Bill Belichick outside of New England, but he went to six championships. Who cares? I like Bill. I also like the fact that in true Miami fashion, nobody.

Bingo. When Coach McDaniel was giving his speech before the Miami Heat game, they took a photo. There was no – who was he talking to? Was that a prerecord? Might have been. There was nobody in the arena. All right, guys, we're going to win tonight.

And they're like, you don't have to say it. Nobody's here. Let me give you some context. Nobody was in the building. None. Literally nobody. Terrible. Empty.

Terrible weather. It was terrible weather down here, guys. Let me give you some context. And that was going into that game four game as well for the Panthers. Really bad weather down here in South Florida that week, so I give you a little excuse. I mean, who shows up early in Miami? Everybody shows up late in Miami.

Exactly. You guys don't care. But once we're in there, we're in there. Yeah, you are. You certainly are. All right, I hope other teams win. I mean, there ain't nobody in that place. What the hell? Hey, nobody. Those look like the people that are there just to put the towels on the seats in the background, not the people that are actually going to take the seats.

We got 15 minutes, 15 and a half minutes before whatever. So I'm sure if you take some pictures of the bar. Is that Tim Wolf? Who's he talking to? Oh, heat. This had to be a prerecord. This is a prerecord. It had to be.

Yeah, it had to be. I don't know. Those people are going nuts. Look at that guy up there in the jersey. Anytime you get a shot away from hard cam, you know what I mean? You can really see a lot of things. AEW found that out this weekend or whatever at one of their events. It's like three-quarters of an arena completely empty.

He's like, I don't want that photo out anywhere. Anyways, congrats to South Florida. We're pulling for you, D-Bot. Thank you for making time. How's the golf game? I appreciate you. Hey, had a great day today golfing my guy, Travis Daniels, former pro as well. LSU grad, played in the league for a while.

Drafted by the Dolphins. But I had a good day out there. Really good day. And I see now, now that i've been playing for five months i see why you made the 20 million dollar bet with aj it makes sense now if if you were if i and i know you can play i would have probably made a dumb bet like that too if i gave myself a good year in this game so uh yeah it's a beautiful game though it's a beautiful game it is it's it's incredible i like that shirt i like that shirt Pac has on, too. Dope shirt. Golf is dope?

You smell me? Yeah, it is. It is dope. I saw him out there, too. You only posted your bad tee shot. You got to post a follow-up. Well, it actually wasn't that bad. I actually got a par on the whole D-Buck.

Okay, see. I wanted to see the follow-up. Good shit. We got to get out there. I shrinked a couple of them, but you know them PXPs are very... Pac says fuck after every shot. Yeah, no matter what. Yeah.

Every time I've seen you golf, which is on your... Every single shot is fuck immediately afterwards. And so I don't know if we need to be judging him on whether or not it's a good swing. Feels like you do make solid contact. Yeah. Very regular basis. Yeah, them PXG clubs are forgiving. I'm getting better and better.

Yesterday, I shot 90, no mulligans. Here we go. Decent day. You're getting good, huh, D-Bud? You said the $20 million bet. You feel good? Yeah, give me about seven more. I've been playing for five months.

I feel like once I hit that year, I'm going to have some ridiculous goals for myself. But I've been playing for five months, but I really probably squeezed a good year and a half into those five months. A lot of time. Smart. A lot of time. DJ Khaled's out there doing it right now in the Bahamas. Falling. He's got a good swing.

He does. Let's go. He's an excellent putter. So you say, what is DJ Khaled good at? And then you put a list of things. One of these things he is terrible at. If golf was on the list ever for DJ Khaled good at. And then he put a list of things he wanted to say. One of these things he is terrible at. If golf was on the list ever for DJ Khaled, I would say easy. Golf.

He fucking stinks at. I know he's good at everything. But golf, this guy has to suck at. He does not stink at all. No, he doesn't. Losing? Yeah, I guess losing would be the only thing DJ Khaled sucks at. Because all he does is win, win, win, no matter what.

No matter what. People ask him why he hasn't lost weight. More anthems are on the way. That is a fair question. He did walk the other day. I follow his posts. He did walk the other day, which is obviously a beast. He'll get on that same shit that Chuck's on and everybody else is on

that I'm trying to get on immediately. No, he's been asked, and he said, because all I do is win. Is D-Butt part of the MRF? Because I feel like he'd help our chances. D-Butt, did you do the MRF? Have you pulled off the MRF? I mean, I wanted to. I saw AQ did it.

Then once I saw Zuck's freaking time, I was like, man, I didn't even try this shit. Hey, buddy, I didn't just watch the day. This guy's ass is cramping right now, middle of the show. Man, I just literally, on the first part of the show, I almost had to catch my breath. What is it, 100? 300. 300.

I'm going to try it, though. Why not? Thanks, sir. Yeah, fuck it. Fuck it, why not? Next Memorial Day. All right, you're a part of our thing. 80% of us have to complete it next Memorial Day.

Thanks, D-Bot. And if we do? $100,-Bot. If we do... $100,000 of charity. If we don't... Nothing. We tried our best. We did, didn't we? Raising awareness.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, South Florida resident who has become a massive fan of both teams that are currently in the finals. I'm sorry, has always been. There he is. D-Bot! AJ had to drop off I believe it was probably something with his kid Axel chewing on wires

Axel's running wild around the house because he's got some cameras that he's able to see what's going on around the house I would love it if it was just like the ultimate warrior sprinting through one camera into the next camera and AJ's just like what the fuck

Axel found some blind spots in the camera so AJ's just like, what the fuck? The way I understood it too, Axl found some blind spots in the camera so he was just completely invisible. Axl says, you got your big brother situation, can't watch me. And back after having to chase his kid around the house. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. AJ, what happened?

Everything okay? Axl alive? Yeah, everything's good. He's fine. He just, I got to caught him before he left the house. I'm the only adult here, unfortunately. So yeah, he wanted to go over and see his cousins. And I said, absolutely not. So that's right.

That's right across the street. Ain't no like right across the driveway. Right down the way, but they don't know he's coming. If they're not home, then where does he wander? If he knocks on the door and he goes around back, where does he go there? See, that's the whole parenting thing. That's chess. You know, you got to think, the door and he goes around back where does he go there see that's the whole parenting parenting that's chess you know you gotta think okay so he goes there cool all good if he gets there cousins are there and it's a full welcome committee but what if they're not there then what then what's that is axel coming back here no way

no chance no chance is he coming back this way so what you have to do you have to you have to board up the doors to keep that kid in the house? Yeah, I mean, we'll see. He seemed to, after multiple times, I told him, you can absolutely not leave this house. You cannot leave until I come back down here, mom gets home, whatever. I think after four or five times, he kind of got it. So we'll see what happens.

Good luck out there, AJ. Joining us now is a man who has – hey, if you've got to go, by the way, you should just go. I'm good. No, believe me, trust me, I'm good to go. Axel's an adult. He has. Certainly not. Certainly not an adult. He's not. We've got to cover it. Yeah, I like that you talk to him like he's an adult.

That's how you've got to do it, I think. And hopefully, Axel, if he does get out there, and he does... Nice, successful meeting with the cousins. Exactly. And if not, go change the world, brother. Go get it. Go do it.

Go live a little bit. These were all the stories later in life that you're going to tell from this moment, Axel. Now, make sure you're safe, though, obviously. Joining us now is a guy who's in the middle of his golf season. And that might be why we had no idea about any of this Jimmy G shit happening at the Raiders. An absolute dog in the insider game. Senior insider for the NFL, the NFL Network, the NFL's website,

and the NFL streaming service, NFL Plus. Host of the weekly wrap-up of the Rap Sheet and Friends, us being the friends, he being the Rap Sheet. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Wow, just off the course. How'd we do? How'd we shoot? I played okay. Honestly, probably better than I played

the previous two weeks. I played a very, very, very hard course, and I played okay. Honestly, probably better than I'd played the previous two weeks. Um, I played a very, very, very hard course and I played with one ball basically the whole time. So I would say pretty decent. Hell yeah. Getting better, right? What course you play? Uh, I played at Fenway Golf Club.

Whoa. Oh, Boston. Uh, no, it's in White Plains actually, but it's very, very nice. I would say similar to Wingfoot. The demographics probably a little different. You know what I mean? White Plains, actually. But it's very, very nice. I would say similar to Wingfoot. The demographic's probably a little different. You know what I mean? No. But it was really challenging.

What do you mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? You have to be this tall to ride? Well, I mean, traditionally, it shouldn't be like this at all. But traditionally, country clubs in the olden days used to have a certain kind of people. And then if you were, let's say, Jewish, you'd have to belong to a different club. Oh, I didn't know that.

Fenway was one of those, a different club. Hold on. But it is absolutely beautiful and awesome. Hold on, that was real? I didn't know that was a, so that, obviously, you think to yourself, country clubs, golf, probably some form. This is a real deal thing, though. This is, this is what? Yeah.

Really? Like, how long? Oh, it is a, it is a real deal thing, though. This is what? Yeah. Really? Like, how long? Oh, it is a real deal thing. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, obviously should not be this way, but all these clubs are so old. And so, like, if you couldn't belong to one club, you would essentially start your other club. And those sort of things have sort of persisted for the last, like, hundred years. It's kind of weird.

That is crazy. Would I be allowed to golf at Fenway oh yeah yeah okay it's not really like this anymore it's just you know it's these are all sort of traditionally whatever they end up being oh you're saying modern it's been modernized it feels like yeah all the clubs have been modernized as they should be bingo yeah we we completely agree it was crazy that some of those places you hear some stories about who was not allowed in, how long the waiting is to get in. It's like super exclusive. And you start looking at some of the members.

You've got to have letters. You've got to know a certain number of people. Long letters from like – it's intense, man. It's intense. But then you get to what? You get to play pickleball and stuff there? Yeah. Neat little pool.

Yeah, use the facilities. They got good club sandwiches. Great club sandwiches. Because that's actually club. Yeah. I mean, I assume that's where they were created. Not this particular place, but places like this, yes. Will you take me to your golf course over there?

Will you be my sign-in? Yeah, come on. I got some places to take you if you ever come to New York. Yeah, you walk all the time, though, don't you? Today I didn't because I had to make sure that I was on time for this show. So today I took a cart. No, don't you worry about that. Don't you use us as an excuse to get out of here.

Okay, that's actually not true. The people I was with wanted to take a cart, but I was— Okay, happy that we just saw right through your fucking bullshit. Knew that. You know what I mean? I'm happy that we couldn't have quicker sawed right through the middle of it. You're mine. Anyways, enjoy the fact that you've been enjoying your golf,

and we're very thankful that you've taken time out of your golf day and parenting day. I've seen you doing a lot of dadding and cooking. Congrats on your new Traeger. Okay. Appreciate it. Now, is that all the stuff that's taking away from us finding out actual information from you? I've seen you doing a lot of dadding and cooking. Congrats on your new Traeger. Okay. Now, is that all the stuff that's taking away from us finding out actual information from you? How do we not know that Jimmy Garoppolo's foot was a real thing? We thought this Raiders-Jimmy G deal was done.

The shoulder was the only issue. Now we're finding out there was an addendum that was added by Mike Florio, a pro football talk, that basically said if his foot doesn't recover, they don't have to pay him a damn thing. Signing bonus became salary. They gave him zero dollars. How did this fly under the radar and where are we with that whole thing? So let's start at the beginning. So the 49ers, at some point during

the season, first they come out and say he's got a list, Frank, he's going to have surgery. And then about a week later, they say, great news, Jimmy G does not need surgery. Awesome. So then it's like, all right, well, if he doesn't need surgery, could he theoretically be able to be the backup in the playoffs? And essentially, best case scenario would have been, he could have been the backup in the Super Bowl. Obviously, they didn't get there. That point was moot. Then he just kind of goes on and everything is fine. Get the free agency.

Remember, you agree to terms with a team, but you don't sign until there's a physical. And every year, there's like one or two guys where things take a little longer. Maybe the press conference gets delayed and you're like, something's going on. This was one of those. So if you remember, he wasn't announced and signed at the time we all thought. It was actually the next day, and everyone sort of said the same thing. It's going to be fine. That's what I was told.

That's what everyone was told. And it really and truly might be fine, but it was very complicated. He needed surgery. That is what the Raiders doctors had found. And he ended up having an additional surgery. And the contract was adjusted to give the team protection in case things don't go as well as they want and hope. That is basically where we are now. So that's why he's not on the field for OTAs. They agreed a deal before doing a physical or pending physical? Yes. No, no, no. You agree to a deal before the physical, and then you fly in,

you do the physical, and almost always it's fine. Or if it's not fine, the team has a decision. Like remember Larry Ogunjobi two years ago signed a big deal. I think at that point the foot wasn't where the Bears wanted to be, and they were like, no deal. And then he ended up signing a one-year deal with the Steelers, playing great and re-upping there. But at that point, the Bears decided, you know what? We are not comfortable with this deal based on his health. We are backing out, which they are allowed to do because it's not signed. The Raiders decided, okay, we want Jimmy G.

We just need to give ourselves monetary protection in case, you know, he's not where it needs to be. But also gives color to why the Raiders looked hard at quarterbacks in this draft. And also why Devontae maybe said, I don't know what they're fucking doing here in an interview a week ago because they might not have a single quarterback worth a damn on the roster. Aiden O'Connell might be a guy. He could be.

He could be a guy. And Hoyer's been at offense a long time. He can still sling that thing. Wild Hoyer's a man. But this also explains why Hoyer is there because you need someone to basically run the offense at the minimum in the spring and maybe in training camp too. So Hoyer could be very good for that.

Ian, how did this stay kind of under the radar for the last couple months? We know this happened months ago. How are we just finding out about this? Yeah, insider. Yeah, I mean, that is a good question. And I feel like I'm pretty transparent on the show, right, and in life, but mostly on the show. I was kind of annoyed, honestly.

Really? I knew something wasn't right i remember his press conference took an extra day and i just you know you always want to like investigate everything even though 75 of the things turn into nothing and i just kind of was once he signed in my head i like, okay, this is going to be fine. What I should have done, honestly, is say, what else is there that I don't know? Self-scout. And I would have uncovered the surgery. This is smart.

This is self-scout. You still get better. That's good. Top of the game. Still getting better. It's only when you get to the top of the mountain that you really have to start climbing. This seems to be an interesting thing with old Tom Brady getting a percentage of the ownership of the Raiders. So you're telling me in a text message you just got, maybe from a golf course or another golf course,

depending upon what religion the golf course is, I guess is what we would guess on who is texting you or whatever. It's my wife, who also, by the way, has just started playing golf. Probably going to be great at it if I had to guess. She seemingly kicks all the asses. All of them. She seemingly

does. So I hope she gets great at golf. Whenever you think about Tom Brady being a percentage owner, do we not have a Jackie Moon situation potentially on deck here? If this foot can't handle itself, because I naturally, as a person who's invested in a business, if I could potentially be the answer to an issue that is

very, very important to my business, wouldn't that be a natural thing to think about? And we're not, I assume everybody's doing this right now, just saying he's going to be owner, player, coach, halftime entertainment. Yeah, I mean, I don't believe you can be owner, you can't be owner, player, coach. There are rules against it. I believe the other owners would have to okay it.

I'm sure they wouldn't. Now, I believe. Why wouldn't they? Well, why would you allow... First of all, the precedent's not great because then Dan Snyder might come down and be like, cool, I'm playing quarterback. You don't want that.

But... That would be sweet. What do I own one of the teams? I'd love to see that. I believe... Jerry and Dan. I want love to see that. I believe. What if Jerry and Dan? Jim Irsay? I want to catch a pass on something.

Jerry Jones versus Jim Irsay. Put them on the Sunday night football graphic. Old school. This actually is a great idea. Think outside the box. Jim plays tackle. Jerry Jones wrestling the passer. I am mind-blown

that these owners, the same ones that make a lot of the rule changes that we see, said at one point, yeah, we need to make sure none of us can play. Because you would think

a lot of them in that room would be like, hey, we own a team so that we can fucking play. Don't we? Ain't that what we're doing? I didn't know that. So they could suspend,

I guess, the percentage because it wasn't a rumor. And I don't know, you might know if it's real or not. Peyton was offered like a percentage of the Titans whenever he was a free agent. Maybe John Elway was offered a percentage potentially at some point. And Elway – so Elway is the famous one because everyone's like, oh, well, he turned it down to – basically turned it down and lost a lot of money.

No, he could not have – I believe this was, he would have been a player, and so he could not have owned a piece of the team, hadn't been a player. But I believe Jimmy Garoppolo will be fine. I believe the Raiders think Jimmy Garoppolo will be fine. At the end of the day, this will probably be nothing. However, since you asked, if Brady wanted to come back, which I do not think he's going to for personal reasons, for professional reasons, because he is retired,

if he wanted to come back, he could theoretically sell his piece of the team and un-retire. He is a free agent, so he could just sign there. I believe there are personal reasons that he is retired, and I believe he is going to stay that way. Okay, well, we'll be excited to watch it all unfold. Hopefully, Jimmy will be healthy. He agreed to, like, yeah, I'll be back

and then you can give me like $22 million or something like that was the signing bonus that he pushed in a salary that is dependent upon him playing. All the money's over there. Hopefully, he's better than we found out he might not be just, what, yesterday. Absolutely bananas. Last question from me before the boys all

have something if you have time uh d hop got an agent how how quickly after the lamar jackson deal was done publicly with no agent did you think that there would be some sort of agent thing that made sure everybody is going to have an agent for instance it got reported this weekend i get again by mike florio i believe believe, of Pro Football Talk, that there was some unknown emails that were reaching out to teams that were from players, allegedly. And they now made a big stink out of it that was like, those are no longer allowed. Basically saying, like, the St. Omnis and these other people that potentially are doing negotiations behind the scenes, this shit's over, okay?

We're not doing this anymore. Now you see DHOP is signed with an agency. Did we all expect that to happen? And do you think players are still going to be able to represent themselves ever going forward after Lamar Jackson and his mom secure a fucking monster deal that they get 100% of and credit for?

Both those things are a big deal. The credit for the contract is a big fucking deal legacy-wise and then the percentage obviously big deal business-wise. Them kind of doing both of those, I think that's probably going to cause some change. Do you agree? So I do not think it's over that players will be representing themselves. I think some will.

I think it is not for everyone. It is extremely difficult to say, like, I'm not an expert, but I'm now going to take control of my business. And yes, you're saving thousands of dollars, but like it is very risky and you could be losing millions. It is not for everyone. And I think for me personally, almost everybody should have an agent. I really do. Everyone should have someone looking out for them. So whether it's an agent in name or whether it's someone who you rely on, just trust their advice, like let's say, say an omni who you mentioned, everyone should have someone looking out for them. Free agency is very hard. And if you're at the top of the market, it's not that hard. If you're a 30 year old receiver who has to sign somewhere in May, you've got to have top-notch representation. It is challenging.

We know if a player signs in May, no one makes any money. Hopkins is probably going to sign for the most money of anyone in April, May, June. If he does have an agent, it's Kelton. What's that? What's his deal going to look like? What will he get? So, you know, in this world, in sort of free agency or whatever, you want to compare apples to apples, right?

So you have a 30-something, young 30s receiver who's a free agent at a time when not a lot of players sign. We just saw that with Odell. He made $15 million base up to $18 million. That would be a great contract for DeAndre Hopkins. I'm not sure that's where he's going to get. I know only one team offered Odell that, and that was the Ravens. My guess is it more likely resembles the, like, like we talked about this before, like the Michael Thomas deal where it's like one for 10 with incentive laden to the chance to make 15. That's probably what it's going to end up like.

But again, if you, if there are teams fighting for him and you want to sign him, he does have leverage because he's a rare, really, really good free agent who's available right now. Tyreek Hill getting 30 million a year. Devante Adams getting 28 million a year. Devontae Adams getting $28 million a year. Cooper Cupp still doing it, 26-7.

A.J. Brown, 25. Stephon Diggs, 24. And everybody else. A lot of people over $20 million a year. A lot of people. As these offenses continue to just grow through the air, wide receivers that are talented are always going to get picked up. DeHaan, his catch radius and everything? Huge.

Where's he going? Chiefs, huh? I mean, I would imagine the Chiefs would have some interest. I would imagine the Bills would have some interest. Ravens, I mean, I know there was some talk about Lamar wanting Hopkins and Odell. I don't know if they have room for that, but I would imagine there'll be a conversation. Any good team now is probably looking at themselves being like, are we one piece away? It's kind of close.

And that's really what this is. This is a luxury item. You probably pay a little more than you want. Who could be the difference between one catch in a major, major game? That's what we're talking about here. This is the final piece to something really good, perhaps. Welcome to Indianapolis, D-Hop. Happy to have you here.

Tone has a question for you, Rep. Yeah, Ian, speaking of wide receivers who are good, who are real good for a long time, not currently on a team. Antonio Brown said that he was going to play for the Albany Empire this weekend, and he didn't play for the Albany Empire this weekend. I didn't even notice that. Shocker, that didn't happen. Is that because his agent Iany Empire this weekend, and he didn't play for the Albany Empire this weekend. I didn't even notice that. What? Yeah, shocker. That didn't happen.

Is that because his agent I also saw this weekend said that there are multiple NFL teams interested in Antonio Brown. Are any of those things true? What was that laugh? Yeah, sounds like that. No. It's possible. Anything's

possible. I mean, I guess the whole world. I don't know. I mean, I guess the whole world. I don't know. I mean, I don't even know what. Is that arena team? The Albany. Empire. Show some fucking respect.

Jesus. We do know. Albany. Not empire. It's just empire. Albany Empire. Albany Empire. Yeah, like the empire, dude.

All right. Like the Romans. Yeah. Get it? That sounds like a real team. He owns it. Foreign international. But it was a former team that was close to where his dad played.

More than 2,000 fans of Normal bought tickets to watch him play, and he didn't play. Okay, so he didn't play. That's very rude. Got him. Sold 2, didn't play this weekend. Okay, so he didn't play. No, I agree. That's very rude. He did not play. Got him. So fucking 2,000 more tickets, though. If he owes the money, he'll join a long list of people that Antonio Brown's on. Whoa.

Allegedly. Allegedly. That's crazy. Allegedly. Is he just doing that? He said, like, all right, I'm going to play, and then I'm not going to play, actually. That's the thing. They didn't get as physical in time as what they said.

Next week, I'll play, and I'll wrestle a bear. Yep. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Is this all just promotion? I'll play. I think so. We get a concert, and I'm going to tackle an alligator crocodile like I'm Steve Irwin.

Is that what this is? Could be. Halftime concert in full pads, for sure. Then he'll do that catch that he did on that one concert. There might have been a chance that Kanye told him he was playing, too, because he had his shoulder pads on. He had his shin guards on, too.

How come none of these guys tackle with kicks? That's what Kanye said. Kanye's going to change football by kicking people right in the mouth and tackle them. That's why he had those shin pads on. AB also this weekend offered Cam Newton $150,000 to play one game as quarterback for Albany Empire, I believe, with AB. Something to think about.

I mean, $150K. He's going to show up. Cam ain't doing that. You think it's 32 motherfucking quarterbacks betting me? You think he's going to fucking play in the league? Well, the way if I'm AB, I'm selling to him is, there ain't 32 people on earth that I offer $150,000 for one day's work here in the Albany Empire.

Okay, you're the only one. Why don't you come have a good time up here? Now, I'm not going to play. So he's going to play, though, we think? No, I don't expect anything from Antonio Brown, really, unfortunately. That's a shame. He's always in the news, you know, and has certainly made a lot of mistakes. And he's unbelievable at catching the football.

Great punt returner as well. Yeah. But he was on the football field. Oh. Jesus. One of the best. Awesome. Unbelievable.

But everything else has just been, like, kind of crop. Yeah, kind of crop. But he did create that dance. He did. Yeah, that's a great dance. He did have that time in Dubai where he was with that lady. Squeezing butts. He was getting his sausage smooched in his gym. With Miss Trump.

Yeah, which is sweet. On Snapchat. Do you have a question? Yeah, I got a question. He snuck that lady into his hotel room. Oh, yeah. The toilet-licking lady. You school? He gave us that hotel room. Oh, yeah. The toilet-licking lady. That pink guy. You school?

He gave us that driver. That driver guy. Oh, yeah. Cheech. Yeah, Cheech. Danny boy hustle hard. There it is. Connor, you have a question for Rhett?

Yeah, Rhett. I'm okay. I'm okay. For the cameo. Happy we can wrap that up. Yeah, true. I know you're sad about being bad, Rothberger, but that's not it for Bay. I think that's it.

There's more. We could definitely... I mean, he threw a bag of penises, right? He did, yeah. The gumming guy. Where does he get gummy penises? Why does he have them? In actual match rep parties. Wait, that's not a real thing.

It's in a report thing. Real report. In like a report. I think Zito left those at the house. AB rented that house after you guys moved out of it in Tampa. The guy was living in the same house we were living in in Tampa. That's real deal. Real deal. We were down there. I have so many questions.

That's where SmackDown was happening down there in their WWE Thunderdome. It was down there in Orlando at UCF. Central Florida, I believe, is the school. And so I was asked if I wanted to be a part of SmackDown. Yes, still got a daily show. So we rented a house in Tampa. Then we made the living room like a studio pretty much. And then there was rooms kind of off of it.

And then there was a patio. And it was a really nice house. It was. It was awesome. Really enjoyed it. We were flying down, and it was a really nice house. It was. It was awesome. Really enjoyed it. We were flying down there every single week for like five months. It was like a good- Long time.

Long time. Long, long time. Then we move out, you know, because of the Thunderdome, and Tony O'Brien moves right into the house. We're still paying rent while Tony O'Brien's living in the house. And paying for the internet.

Yeah, and upgraded internet. You're welcome. How you doing? Keep it moving. So some of those videos that the world saw was probably uploaded on the internet that we were actually paying for. Yeah.

So we do feel like we were a part of it. We were not a part of the bag of penises, though. No. That were being thrown at another neighborhood down there in Florida. No, I just assumed that was like when Jeter used to have sex with supermodels and he gave them a signed baseball when they were done. And then after A.B. was getting his somersaults and smooches on, he just gives him a little grab bag of candy penises.

Something to remember him by. So Jeter came out and said that wasn't true. He did. I believe Jeter came out and said it wasn't true, but that story had been echoing through society. Exactly. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. I'm sorry. He came out and said

that's not true, and we're all like, okay, we believe. Yeah, Jeter's a good guy. I like that rap, Jeet. Just as a man who's been sued before, I'm just here. I've heard it from way too many people. Everyone's heard. There's no way that something's that strong of a rumor, and it's not even close to true.

Maybe it wasn't like a box. Someone probably asked for one. One of these gals could have asked for it. Hey, can I get a sign of baseball or something? One of these gals. Yeah, hey, I did my job. Can I get your autograph on baseball? Because That'd be sweet. Yeah, hey, I did my job. Can I get your autograph for the baseball? Because I want to, you know, maybe.

Anyways, everybody knows that something can make its way around the entire world before even getting the truth out there. And I believe that's what Jeter said. Jeter said, like, that thing was gone. Because that was pre-internet, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, early internet.

Yeah, before the baseball diamonds, right? The baseball diamond of his exes was put together. What happened? Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's The baseball diamond of his exes was put together. What happened? Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's a baseball diamond. Oh, it's like a starting nine of all his famous exes. Yeah, great lineup. Jeets could swing the wood.

Yeah. Allegedly. More than one way. Allegedly. Baseball. Yeah, right. That's why, for the Yankees. Right, hot lumber.

Very good hitter. Good wood. Good wood. He captured the Yankees. Right, hot lumber. Very good hitter. Good wood. Good wood. We have to capture the Yankees. Not afraid to go oppo. But then there was a lot of... There it is. Jesus.

I knew it was out there. This was on... It's on ASPN. Yes, yeah. I mean, you got Tyra Banks DH-ing. She's not even good enough to fucking get a mitt on and get in the field. Yeah. Mariah Carey left field afterthought.

Come on. We heard that was... Jeter said that the hole was all a lie. They all got signed baseball. get in the field. Mariah Carey left field afterthought. Come on. Jeter said that the hole was all a lie. They all got signed baseball. On ESPN, they're talking about this guy's love life. You think he loves this? No way. Hitcher's now his wife, right? Yes.

You know how much shit the Jessicas tore up in center field and right field? Could you imagine being in a public relationship, one of those super-duper public ones? People know my wife, obviously. They follow her on Instagram. But those actual public couples, that's her entire being, that would suck so bad.

Like the Buffalo Beals? Look at fucking Ben Affleck and J-Lo. You think he's having a good time? Does he look like he's enjoying himself? Let's move it. He was not happy shutting that Tesla. He looks at the camera. Yeah.

Fuck. I'm having a day. Okay? We can't have a day. We're humans. Yeah. But have you seen? You didn't break this news.

I believe New York Post or TMZ did. Yes. Josh Allen has a potential new friend he's been hanging out with, Haley Steinfeld, who I definitely knew who it was whenever the name popped up on the tweet. And then I just said, let me clarify if that is who I think it is. Googled the name. Singer, right?

No. No? Did he say singer? You uncultured swine. I mean, she is a great singer. She's an actor, okay? Pitch Perfect 3, she vocals. Isn't there a Haley who's a singer?

Yeah, she's released a couple songs as well, but she's an actor first, okay? She's nominated for an Academy Award. Why did she have sang? I didn't know that when you said that. Because she would take offense to people saying, oh, you're the singer. No, she's an Academy Award nominated actress. She's in Bumblebee. Shit.

True Grit. Bumblebee. Marvel. Really? Ever heard of it? Anyways, Josh Allen, though, right into the thunderdome of being a public couple here. Bingo. You know what I mean?

This is going to happen. I don't know if they were planning on it. It seemed like they were just living their lives. But now everything they do is going to be documented. Yeah. That seems stressful. It does, doesn't it? Yeah, it seems to never work.

Like, every little couple's little discussion could be on camera. I always think about that with basketball games. Some famous couple sits there and they have some interaction, and then we all dissect it for the next day, fair or not. That seems, I don't know. That would be tough. It is. It would be.

Good luck to all of them. Yeah. We'll help you all enjoy your life of love. Love, love. Hope Josh is happy, whatever the hell he's doing. Thank you for your service to football, Josh. Can't wait to see what you do going forward. Great quarterback.

Great quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking he's good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking so. Another quarterback that's good.

Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Rap Sheet, they're saying Brock Purdy is going to be throwing this week. Is that real? Is that real? And is there now no longer really a worry for the Niners at quarterback? It's definitely going to be party week one, or is there still going to be some sort of competition? Okay. So let's say he's throwing this week. First of all, that would be really good news because that would mean he's basically either on track or like a small bit ahead of schedule. That is all very good. So what this means is he now has a three-month,

based on the original time frame, has a three-month time where he's got to start throwing and then get to a point where he is regularly throwing without issue. This should be right before the start of the season, probably early, early September, where he should be around 100%. This is all very good news. So if that is the case, if he's thrown this week, and hopefully he has no setbacks, if this continues to be the case, then you are looking at realistically he could maybe start week one, or if not week one, pretty shortly thereafter. Like if it's late, late, late August or really early September

when he's now finally 100%, you're looking at around the start of the season or maybe a little bit after. This is all good. And if someone like Sam Darnold or maybe, I guess, Trey Lance, if one of those guys starts a week or two, that's also fine because the most important thing for the Niners is that someone who they believe to be a massive, massive part of their future is fully healthy with no issue. But to answer your question, like this is probably going about as well as they could have hoped after the surgery. Love that. Let's throw a Brock party for

that. Love everything about it. Like we're Clayton Anderson. Pac-Man has a question for you. Rep, have we heard anything about Bryce Young and these OTAs? I think I just haven't heard none. It's been a little quiet. Have you heard anything in the background or anything? I mean, I think the most important thing for these OTAs is how well is the guy picking up the offense. Because, you know, there's not, as we've gone on, OTAs have become less and less. Like, they're more teaching periods and less, like, practices, I guess, for lack of a better word, because nobody wants anyone to get injured. Like, I know, like when you were doing your thing, like people would get

injured in OTAs and that was not good. Teams are going less and less full speed. So I don't expect any like real evaluations until probably at least training camp. But it does sound like they, like all the stuff they thought about his processing ability and his intelligence, that's all been real and that's all been held up by his time there. So that is good. And I think, you know, you go through rookie minicamp, go through OTA's actual minicamp. That's kind of all you want is how well is this guy picking up what we're doing? And it seems to be in a pretty good place. Okay. So let's just go back to the OTAs not being able to practice.

You know, you don't want people to get injured, but potentially offensive linemen suck. Yeah. You know? So there is like a – I think there are some things that we kind of lose, too, like kind of have to outweigh one with the other. And it seems like, you know, player safety and health is always the conversation, and the owners are completely okay giving up something that makes no money.

So you guys don't want to practice? Yeah. You fucking got it. Of course. On the other side now, we need 19 games. So you guys no money over here and yeah, we don't care. Nobody's watching you guys not practice, including us. We didn't even know you guys had these until you mentioned these things to kind of eliminate like that is, that's a fascinating

thing. But if you talk to a lot of these coaches and these old school guys, they're like the lack of practice and the lack of anything physical has certainly deteriorated like the trenches and like offensive line play and everything like that. So are you potentially jeopardizing future injuries in the name of players health to kind of save it in the shorthand? That'll be something that'll be studied as we continue to go on with these

OTAs that don't really have any competitiveness. You know, there's really no, you know, it doesn't feel like there's any, like we're actually trying to beat you. You're trying to beat us. It's like, let's kind of get through, let's learn, and let's keep it moving. I'm intrigued by the long-term effects by it all, but who knows if any stat we see will ever be worth a fuck. Well, and the response from players during the COVID year when they didn't

have. Yeah. Right? Everyone was basically feeling great very happy yeah i mean the covid year was a basic covid year was a game changer for otas because everyone got to the season they're like all right like we don't need it but pat to your point like of all the different places offensive line play where like live reps it all matters but live reps probably matter as much as anything. That is probably where it's been tougher to develop offensive linemen.

And that's really why like you take a team like the Eagles, like they have great offensive line coach. They're a team that has developed offensive line. And then they're starting left tackle who's a rock star was in the international pathway program. And I was making $16 million a year. Like they can really develop offensive linemen and their starting left tackle who's a rock star was in the International Pathway Program and I was making $16 million a year. They can really develop offensive linemen. They're in a great place because they're excelling where

it's actually really hard for other people to do that. No OTAs, no real minicamp makes it harder. There's no real I don't think the physicalness necessarily is needed, but as we see within the trenches it's like how fast everything's going. Like, that's hard to reciprocate in a walkthrough situation

when you've got to pass a guy off and then a guy's coming around. It's like picking up all that shit seemingly much harder to do now whenever you don't have as much heavy and full-speed walkthroughs and OTAs, but they'll figure it all out. Yeah, absolutely. Of course, everybody's figured it all out. Go ahead, AJ. Ian, going back to the Jimmy G thing, the waiver he took out,

like how common is that among NFL players? And do we see starting quarterbacks with these sometimes? It is actually pretty common. It doesn't happen a lot in free agency because usually if there's an injury, we kind of know about it or a guy will wait until he's fully healthy to sign. This was one where we knew about the injury, thought it had been healed. He agreed to terms, it wasn't, and then he had surgery. So like this particular situation is a little more rare, but like this does happen where teams will sign players and they'll say like, you are fully

healthy except this one very, very specific injury. And we are waiving this injury, basically. So if you get injured here with only this very specific injury, we don't owe you anything. Anything else, we owe you all the money. I think that's what this is, is a team basically saying like, this contract is fully normal except for this one injury, which against this one, we are protecting ourselves. And, you know, again, for Jimmy G, like, once he, I believe, once he passes a physical, then it's all good and everything is basically the same.

It's just, it's got to get to that point where he can pass a physical and fully practice. We're assuming he's pretty confident. That's why he agreed to this? Yes. And it sounds like the team is too. Okay, doctors, everybody pretty confident? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, but again, it's like we all, after someone has surgery, it's like, oh, successful surgery, but they're not all successful. So you hope, hope, hope that he is okay. He's seen some experts. He's seen the best doctors in the country. So hope it is going in the right direction. And rehab sucks too.

He's about to go through a miserable rehab before he gets back. Hopefully he's able to do it. Hopefully the Raiders are able to make everything good because if they don't have a quarterback this year and they're on the hook for – well, they're not on the hook, I guess, for any money, but a lot of people go, hey, McDaniels, what are we doing over here? What the hell?

What the hell is going on? I'm excited to see you, and good luck, Jimmy. Good game. Last question here from Ty, Rap. Yeah, Rap Sheet, I can't remember if it was the Jimmy G situation or another piece of news that broke, but apparently Florio wants to beat your ass because everyone was basically giving you credit for something that he broke.

What exactly happened there, and are you worried that the next time you see Florio, he's going to smack the taste out of your mouth? I'm not worried. I retweeted his link with the exact memo as an acknowledgement that he had it first.

I'm not worried. I mean, I will also say this. Share a small little thing. He has also texted me in the meantime to voice his thoughts on the matter. All I will say is I properly credited by retweeting his link, and I'm very comfortable with my retweeting process. Yeah, but, Rap, this has happened with us before,

where we will break some sort of news, and then the NFL will post it as parentheses at rap sheet, comma, at Pat McAfee show. It was like, rap had nothing to do with this. I understand that rap is on our show every once in a while but rap legitimately had nothing to do with this and it's like I don't give a fuck though. I'm not an insider.

But if I consider myself an insider Woo! Woo! Woo! You know rap? You know what I mean? Woo! because what happens now is like news breaks and then somebody confirms news and then they're going off of confirms that right this person confirmed that it's like a it's an interesting wording game happening right now interesting well no so so basically what happens is someone else like you hopefully you break every story, but obviously there's a lot of stories and you don't break all of them.

Well, when you confirm your network, your outlet who employs you, they take your word that you are confirming the story is true. So what usually happens is they'll say like according to rap sheet and then the story will say first reported by a pro football talk, which I believe was the case here. Although honestly, I didn't read the story um so that's but that was the case like for you had a quarterback which i can't remember which um well i can for i retweeted you i confirmed it credited both of us because they employ me and they acknowledge that you had it first and the story it says as first reported by pat max and nobody reads the story, though. Nobody reads the story. I mean, stories are pretty interesting. I read a lot of some.

I read a couple of stories. Okay, and the percentage of it all, though, like 15% of the people, maybe even less than that, probably 5% of the people on Twitter hit the link. I'd say probably less than that. Yeah, less than 5%. I'd say less than 5%. I'd say like way less. I think the main thing is like every outlet credits their own,

you know, acknowledges, hey, this was confirmed by our own reporter. And then, you know, in the end, there's one person who had it first. And that's in the story or in the case with you, it's in the initial tweet, which I thought was a nice way of handling it. No, I mean, if I was an insider, I and we like you. So like anything we bring. Sure. Let rap sheet nibble the cheese. And normally we don't even

we don't even know we're breaking news normally right we don't even know yeah that's what's happening is breaking because we don't even worry about it but i do read some of the way things are laid out and i'm like if i was an insider i i think you could see how no a bit see i would say i would say this like i do not you know i've been doing this for a while and i probably spent some portion of time focusing on a lot of this i really and truly do not care right now because everyone has to have it for their own outlet so you report what you have other people confirm it everyone's outlets credit their own reporters to me like we we know that florio had this first. I retweeted

him as an acknowledgement that he had it first. To me, it's all really fine. Every team should credit their own reporter, but acknowledge who had it. We're old school, I think. Same with Florio. You know what I mean? We're old school reporters. Different mentality.

That's why we're going to ESPN, because we're just old school. Yep, exactly. What do you got this afternoon? That's right. Different mentality. That's why we're going to ESPN because we're just old school. Yep. Exactly. By the book. I heard about that. What do you got this afternoon? We got some soccer practices and some play dates to take people back. So we got, I would say, a full afternoon. All right.

Well, good luck out there. We're pulling for you. We appreciate your time and information. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. Yay! Floyd was not happy. No, he was not. He was in his bag all weekend. He put his tweet out.

He was all the way in his bag, wasn't he? I shouldn't care, he said. But you know, you know. I get called a conspiracy theorist. And then I start snooping around and every little thing. I find something that nobody else got, nobody else thought to. I break it, then all of a sudden

what, everybody else broke it? Not me. That ain't how this goes. I'm going to fucking tweet about it. I do enjoy it. We'll end with some phone calls on the 5RNG phone line. 1-833-433-663.

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because I literally talk about it all the time. It's like a little box that you see at the gas station. You can just buy one of those. 20% off as well. We're getting these at a good rate. And all of a sudden, as you're walking out, how are you doing? Keep moving.

Put it in the pocket. Now the afternoon's easy. done easy peasy five hour energy easy you know what i mean civil game you know what i mean yeah got phone calls lighting up right now mitt's handling it oh hello where's the mitt cam there we go there's mitt hard at work answering phone calls in a hoodie it It is 155 degrees outside today. So hot. But Mitt is always so ice cold. Hell yeah.

What's cooler than being cool? Ice cold. That's Mitt. You fucking right. We talked to him a little bit about that ride that happened in the lacrosse game where the goalie was out of the net. And Mitt said, that's a terrible ride. Stupid as fucking play ever.

I said, Duke's pretty good though, right? National championship? Probably. Number one team. We had a lot of lacrosse experts in the office this morning. There was a bunch. It was unbelievable. The amount of information we have about the sport of lacrosse in this

building was kind of untapped. Felt like it was stonk time. Stock market, yeah. When everybody was experts in the stock. Oh yeah, one of the best times in the office ever. That was amazing. It ended pretty quick too. stock. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One of the best times in the office ever. That was amazing. It ended pretty quick, too. No.

Oh, yeah. No. Everybody had it figured out there. Not only the whole internet. The whole internet had the stock market figured out. Our office seemingly had it figured out.

It was amazing listening to these people talk about these penny stocks that they're finding as if we're listening to fucking Wolf of Wall Street with Leonardo DiCaprio. Exactly.

Dogecoin. And then all of a sudden we dive into NFTs next. Whoa, we got this one figured out, man. It's unbelievable. Well, just a couple of years ago, everyone was a doctor as well. We can't forget that. Wow, that was the whole world. Well, you actually kicked it off.

Yeah. Yeah, Foxy, he let us know early on. Oh, yeah, he jinxed it. This is going to last two weeks and we're going to be back. He wasn't the one who made that up, though let us know early on. Oh, yeah, he jinxed it. This is going to last two weeks, and we're going to be back. He wasn't the one who made that up, though. We were told that. You got to go back. We were told.

Swatting the curve. Swatting the curve. Bet. 100%. Yeah, but he confirmed it, and then we didn't read the article. Yeah. You're right. Yeah, I was going to say that.

I said two weeks, absolutely no chance they canceled the NCAA tournament. And then once they did that, I said I said oh this might be kind of real Uh oh boys It just got cleared right a couple weeks ago I thought we also read something last week XBB Yep Listen

Let's fucking get ready It wasn't bad dude Honestly at this stage I don't even know if you're allowed to ask that question. Even though it seems just so obvious right there. You know what I mean? You guys. Do you remember when we were being told through that whole thing?

Yes. Everybody's going to try to make us all forget forever about what was actually being said by people that are in very respectful positions. I'll never fucking do that. Let's bat. It's spelled L-A-B. back full positions. I'll never fucking do that. Let's bat. It's spelled L-A-B. Bitch. We almost got kicked off the internet for

early going. So this thing wasn't Hold on. This thing wasn't. This thing was, just real quick. We did. We had COVID-19 calling to the show. The bat. Early on. Yeah. It may have been a little advised

looking back, but how could we have known? Why not? When we were told it was a bat, our show immediately thought, oh, COVID-19's a bat. It's a character. It needs to call into the office. Right. No, COVID-19 wanted to go back to the bats. Exactly.

It wanted to go back to the caves. Yeah, it didn't want to be in humans. No. It was just a mix-up. COVID-19 wants to be in the bats. Right. Wanted to go back to the caves. Yeah, didn't want to be in humans. It was just a mix-up. COVID-19 wants to be in the bats. That was our immediate reaction. Well, then right after that too, it was okay. COVID-19, that's called. We should get a doctor

who's a doctor, Dr. Drew. And actually, he thanked you mightily for actually listing out all the real doctor degrees that he has. Yeah. What a time, dude. We're live every fucking day through it. Only once.

We started as it started. That's exactly when we started. We're the only ones. I think we're potentially the only humans on earth that were live every single day of COVID. Every single one of them. And also never had a

super spreader event. Sometimes people would get sick, but it never spread to each other. Because we were in Indiana, so we had a big studio, so we were able to do it. The code was, you have to be six feet apart, and also since we were a show, we were deemed like a necessity or something like

that. Essential. Essential, yeah. Whatever worker, because the show could spread information if information had to be spread. It was like literally, I don't want to say backdoor, but kind of. Yeah, we got the waivers. Yeah, kind of backdoor. We were spreading information. Yeah, certainly.

It was nothing about COVID. We were eating good, too. For most of it. But we were live. Oh, I had. Epoch. Epoch burgers. They were so good.

Every day, same thing. Yep. Oh, yeah. Couldn't go to the stores. But then there was a time where cardboard was spread COVID, so whenever you get a delivery, fucking stare at that thing, but not too close because it can come through your eyes. You're not allowed to make eye contact with anybody.

We were live every day. The only people on earth, I think, never took a single day off. Not even a thought of it. What did we do? What did we talk about? There was no sports for like the first six months, I feel like. The AFL was the first two days. We played a Madden

game. Yeah, a lot of jacking around. Office Olympics. Yeah. That was awesome. You did the McDonald's challenge. And the habanero. And the habanero. And the ghost pepper. Puked that one up. That thing was so hot. McDonald's was tough, too.

That tray looked so simple. I know. Didn't it? It did. A lot of nuggets. A couple double quarter pounders, too. A lot of fries. Yeah, a lot of fries. And that drink. I puked it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Thought so. Were you able to go?

Look how delicious that thing looks. It's the four drinks, really, when you look at it. Because that is just so much space. Those burgers are a lot. That thing hit the internet during the whole COVID. Do you think you could eat this? And everybody was like, yep, including me. I was like, I've been eating McDonald's my whole fucking life. This will be easy.

Definitely can eat. Love quarter pounders with cheese. No problem at all. The double quarter pounder, too much meat. Quarter pounder, perfect burger. Those drinks will fill you up. When do you drink all those drinks, too? Yeah, my strategy wasn't great either.

I think the professional eaters could obviously control their stomach enough that they could eat this, but I don't think a lot of normal humans could put this down, even though it appears to be something that people could put down. We tried it live, and I puked. That's what we were doing, man. And then the race riots happened. We were alive then as well.

I mean, we were alive every fucking day through that whole thing. That's why whenever you look back on this like 10, 15 years, we're live every fucking day through that whole thing. That's why whenever, you know, you look back on this like 10, 15 years, we're going to have pretty documented. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Here's day one. Here's the vibes. It's awesome.

Here's day two. We're not allowed to say this. Hey, they're kind of alluding to this, but, eh. Can't say it. Eh, I guess not. And then now here we are three years later where it's like, what was going on over there? Stuff's coming out now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's what's what i'm saying what a wild time and look at us now how

about it we play baseball we had to get covid tested to go to wwe every single week do you remember that yeah i had to go drive into a parking lot where people were dressed up as if we're in the middle of nuclear warfare oh yeah in a parking lot in Tampa. Had to be 7,000 degrees in there full stance. And then they tell me to roll down a window, and then they shove that thing to my brain. Yep. All the way up to the brain. And then he just said, did I travel to Tampa for no reason?

Because if I fail this test. Yeah. Sure did. See you next week. I didn't fail it. No, yeah, you didn't. Didn't miss any. One time, NXT too?

Yeah, NXT one was even worse, actually, because we had to get tested here, wait two full days, and then it was like, oh, you're clear, but we were already on that plane. Well, sometimes. Yeah. Orlando. It was bad. We were waiting on these tests to clear, because

it started, you'd have to go to CVS or Walgreens or something. Right. Parking lot would be packed out. Packed out, and then nurses or whoever would come out, they. Right. Parking lot would be packed out, packed out. And then nurses or whoever would come out. They test cars. They come out to cars, test them, put it in there. Then they would have to go in, properly label it, hopefully, get everybody's name, information, address, phone number, and then send it off to a lab.

Where's the lab? Oh, there's a couple in Jersey, D.C. There's who knows where the fuck it's going. And then you stare at your email waiting for like a, hey, you've been cleared. It started out at like 24 hours. Then it got to like 48 hours. And then there was a little bit of an overload. That thing was like 72 hours, 96 hours.

We're just waiting there. And it's like, well, if it comes back clear and we don't go, we're going to feel like idiots. So we're just flying down to NXT, hoping that the thing will pass. And then as soon as we land, boom. There was one time driving to the building. Yeah, driving into the stadium. Driving into the building, it gets okay. And it's like, all right, pretty cool.

And I think I only had like an eight-minute promo that night. So pretty good that I passed that. Oh, we would walk in. Hey, Pat, you're getting a microphone. Here you go. Walk in. There you go. Eight minutes.

Pretty good. Those were good days. The fucking COVID era was bananas. It was wild. It was nuts. Yes. It were good days. The fucking COVID era was bananas. It was wild. It was nuts. Yes. It happened, though. And hopefully it never happens again.

We did beat it. We beat it. We did. Did we? We did. Yeah. We did. We've celebrated, remember?

A couple times. Once. Once like a month there. Yeah, a few. A few. A little. How many times did we? There was a lot of oh noes. Did we win? we? There was a lot of oh no's.

Did we win? Yeah, there were a lot of oh no's after a long weekend. Two and a half years in intervals you've been celebrating. Then all of a sudden out of nowhere somebody's missing a game for what? COVID. We beat this a year and a half ago. I think it was when they decided to have some fans in the Super Bowl stands. Oh, yeah.

That was the first one. Well, I'll never forget when that first NFL player, Brian Robinson. Brian Allen. Brian Allen. Yep. Jay Glazer. Dude. Oh, my God. Big news. Tomorrow night, 8 p.m. Earth-shattering news. Not just

football news. World news. The biggest league in the earth had its first ever COVID illness. Who is it? Ram, fourth-string center, Brian Wells. That was huge. Happy he's okay. He survived, right?

Yeah, he did. He's a very good player. Every single professional athlete? NFL-wise, yeah. I think so. Because we were the only ones. We were the new. Documented.

We were the only ones that every single person that got a COVID positive, we said we hope they survive. Literally the only people on earth that said they hope they survive. Everybody else, he's out with a COVID, so they're going to have to bring in somebody that is doing this. Yeah, he's going to be missing the next two weeks for COVID. Even though he has no symptoms at all, he's out for COVID. They're going to have to bring this guy.

Is anybody worried about death around here? I thought that's why we're doing this whole thing. We're the only ones. We hope they survive. And then, boom, let's go ahead and get back on the game. Yeah, pro athlete, I think no. Some athletes, I think yes. NFL, though, no.

NFL, no. Shout out, dude. Shout out. Shout out. You almost won a Super Bowl because of COVID. Damn right. Yeah, but once again. We were too good at COVID.

Yeah, we were amazing at it. God, AJ, what's so funny? Nothing. I'm just enjoying it. It's making me think about the whole process from when it started until now. It's crazy how much has happened. Let's go to the phones. We've got a JT in Ohio on a 5RNG phone.

What's going on, JT? How are you doing? Keep it moving. Hell yeah. Nice. Hell yeah, hell yeah. I'd like to congratulate you sellouts on everything that's going on. And to the people in the comments, I would tell you guys not to take it too personally

because I think everyone's just afraid of a little bit of change. And I think they should enjoy the good old days while they're still here. That's right. The good old days are leaving, too. When we go to ESPN, we're going to sell out. Show's going to be completely different. Thank you, JT. Remember, I've read from a lot of people that the only reason why they watch the show

is because we're not ESPN. So we're a spite show. I didn't know we'd been a spite show. Me neither. No talent. I had no idea that was a thing. Not entertaining. Not good.

Only watching because it's not ESPN. Listen, we had a hell of a run then. It's not ESPN. We did. I don't know how we'll be able to do anything else coming forward. The times they are. People have said some real rude stuff. Some real rude stuff.

Real rude stuff. Some stuff that even, like, I laugh a lot. Even sometimes I'll read it like, I mean, that's good. But Jesus Christ. Pretty rude. What the hell? Pretty rude. Yeah. It's alright, I understand. Hey, be mad. Be passionate. Yeah. We respect it. If you don't want to watch, fuck off, too.

See you later. Good run. Couple months away. They're going to change it. Has it even happened? Have you seen a single second of the program? No. No. No. Okay.

No. Have you ever reacted being a little rude during your overreactions, too? Saying some things? A little rude? Maybe? Maybe. Maybe? A little.

I can't read comments anymore or tweets anymore. That's how bad it's gotten. No. Well, it was, at least. I don't know if it still is. If it still is, that's an incredible wave. Because normally the wave comes and then it kind of goes. Practice pits, man. If it's still coming, that's pretty awesome. If they're still pissed, that's an incredible wave. Normally the wave comes and then it kind of goes.

If it's still coming, that's pretty awesome. If they're still pissed. What's that? I think the holiday weekend dissipated a lot of it. That's because of the water. I wash a lot of people out on the water. It's not a tsunami, but there's still waves. That's good.

Hey, all good. We'll see you in a couple months or not. But would like retraction of all the incredibly rude things once you know. I'm sure he'll get that. AJ, they said some rude things to me, man. It's good they care. It's good people care about the show.

You're right. When they stop saying things about a potential change, that's when we know we're fucked. Yeah. Exactly. Thank you. Good to know. I appreciate it. Thank you. Let's go. Appreciate it. Thank you. Let's go to Stephen in Indiana on the 500 phone. What's going on, Stephen? Hi, boys.

I keep it moving. Bingo. Hell yeah. Nailed it. Hell yeah. First time caller, long time listener. I'm just wondering,

my wife, we watch your show a lot and she teaches fifth grade and she's always wondered what you all were as fifth graders. Oh, sick, sick. Thank you, Steven. So actually, that's when I got busted selling cigs was fifth grade. Had a little operation going.

Connor, fifth grade one time? Fifth grade, I broke my arm playing kickball. Oh, but you were getting after it? Yeah, we were getting after it. Yeah, I got a concussion. Ty Schmidt, biggest memory from fifth grade? Oh, I don't remember shit from fifth grade. Okay, just kind of the air tone.

I was a human being. Yeah, you were. Nice. Pac-Man, fifth grade? Graduation, big-ass glasses on. What, did you guys go to middle school after that, six through eight? Yeah. So, K through five, six through eight?

Yeah. We were K through six, seven, eight. Oh, we were K through five. K through five. And then six, seven, eight, yep. AJ, through 5, 6 through 8? Yeah. We were K through 6, 7, 8. Oh, we were K through 5. K through 5. And then 6, 7, 8, yeah. AJ, fifth grade, you? Bully. No, not at all.

I think I said on this show when I was hosting it years ago, like fifth grade was one of my toughest years. It was impossible school-wise. I don't know why. Happy you got through it, bro. Hey, baby. AJ. I did.

It was tough, man. It's when they made us read a ton of stuff. It's like when they really kicked up another notch. I guess that is what I remember the most. History books that thick. Is looking around and finding the kid who wasn't paying attention. And, boo, I'm going to popcorn this son of a bitch so hard. Oh, whenever they would send the reading?

Yeah. That was fifth grade? Yeah. When did we start changing classes? Fifth grade? Fourth grade? Sixth grade for me. Middle school. Fifth grade. Ours was either fourth or fifth changing classes? Fifth grade. Fourth grade? Sixth grade for me. Middle school.

Fifth grade. Ours was either fourth or fifth. Ours was fifth. With three classes. Fifth? Yeah. Switch classes? Only like two times.

Yeah, only two classes. We had three. I don't remember. Me neither. How many periods did you guys have in junior high? I thought we had seven. Junior? I don't have a lot of memories pre-seventh grade.

At Holiday Park? Actually, my first memory might be 9-11. Oh, yeah, that happened when I was in fifth grade, so I guess that was a... So we were in... I was in seventh or eighth. You were eighth or ninth. Yeah, I don't remember.

Hmm. Yeah, that was something that had certainly happened. That's my first life memory. I think I was in keyboard class. So all the parents out there, anything before your kid's 12, they're not going to remember. So I think about that a lot. I think about that a lot with my kids. Tell it to Dahmer.

Yeah, I remember he was in the woods with that rabbit. He was like fourth or third grade or something. He wasn't doing it. No, he was cutting it up. I remember first grade. I was thinking Chinese. You guys cutting it up. I remember first grade. I was taking Chinese. You guys have a great memory. I remember fourth grade. I remember third grade.

This was mostly when I was getting kicked out of everything. It's like third grade, I was getting kicked out of stuff. Fourth grade, same thing. Fifth grade they caught me at all my sigs. They wanted to kick me out of the fucking school. So I remember all that type of stuff. All the other things, not so much. Fifth grade I started doing school plays. Was in Aladdin.

You were? Yeah, I was. Think about how much that would pay off for Arthur Isaac Fischel. Boom. Exactly. That's where it all started. I was the red bird. Jafar's birdie-ago.

Hey, Jack Barr posted that video today on his Instagram, AJ. Oh, he did? I mean, that video, honestly, I saw it play during the commercial again. It's awesome. Like, all you guys said. You guys nailed it. I watched it a couple times this weekend. Yeah.

Just so fucking dumb. Did he bring that gun? No, we had to get it. We had to get it. But he put all his own specs on it and everything. Yeah, it was sighted in until it wasn't. Yeah. Good shot.

Tim and Bailey, they did their damnedest to sight it in, you know? Yep. And they have good shots you know tim they used to call him dime because that fucking guy could hit a dime about 100 yards out of you you know what i mean and bill we know he's certified oh yeah of course he can do his thing so when his airsoft gun came they were shooting it and you know they were you know experiencing some discrepancies where the the little pellet. It's a sweet airsoft gun he had. It's a nice looking airsoft. Dog.

Oh, yeah. It was expensive. We had to overnight it. There was actually a better one that wouldn't get until a day later, which that one, I don't know if Connor's still standing here. Yeah, probably not. Even though it's an airsoft gun and it's just a pellet or whatever. But Bill and Tim had it.

But they were saying it was shooting a little bent barrel maybe. You know what I mean? Who knows where it's going. Jack Hart grabbed that thing. First time he shot Connor in the arm or whatever. I think he did that on purpose. Oh, yeah. I think so, too.

Yeah, I think he did it on purpose. Let's just see where this thing is. Connor no-sold it. Connor no-sold it at all. He said, oh, the guy just shot me in the shoulder or whatever. It hurts real bad. But didn't move. So Jack Carr knew that he hit him, though. Knew exactly where

it was. So then first take on that video, we get to... I mean, that whole thing was first take. That was one run, that entire thing. One run. That's it. And then as soon as Connor gets there, that thing... Dude, that is.

His brain, if it's actual, is actually going out the other side. Oh, yeah. Right where he was wanting to hit him. I mean, like, basically called his shot exactly where it was going to be. So, whatever Bailey and Tim were telling me about, you know, maybe there's a little bit of whatever. I'm like, the guy's a Navy SEAL fucking sniper. He'll figure it out. He's going to figure out how to shoot something.

If you have to get him, you know, like a potato gun or something, he's going to figure out how to shoot something. If you have to get him like a potato gun or something, he's going to figure out how to make that thing hit within a penny or whatever. He did. It was impressive. Yeah. That was very impressive. And obviously, Arthur Isaac Fishel died that day for the betterment of the world. Thank God. That's why we're still here. It's because of Jack Carr.

Saved the world. Hell yeah, Jack. No big deal. Just another time. I'm sure he has. Where's the nuke? What's that? Where'd the nuke go? Jack took it. Yeah. I don't know where he is. Why don't you ask him?

Yeah, you can ask him. He might kill you for asking. I won't ask then. I'll make sure I don't ask. Chad Speed's not taking that thing. Jim's not taking that thing. No. Antonio Magarete.

He's not taking that thing. And certainly not. Yeah, Igor, whatever. Bob Rovchnovsky. Yeah, Bob Rovchnovsky. He is not taking that thing and certainly not yeah Igor whatever Bob Rovanovsky he's not taking it either Jack Gore had to take that thing out of there for the betterment of everybody

you know what I mean American hero bingo think about Jack Gore getting pitched that how did he respond the first time you guys kind of talked about it yes love it

no questions let's do it. Yes, love it. I get to shoot that guy? Yeah, I'm in. He said, did somebody sight the gun? And we said, well, that's actually a full. And then he says, where is it?

And he grabs it. And then he stands like 10 feet away from this cardboard box and like, all right. And then he goes up to the thing. Perfect. It was all, we filmed it within five minutes. So quick. From him saying, yeah, I love it,

to it being over probably six minutes, seven minutes, probably the whole thing. How many people filmed it, though? I feel like you had so many nice cuts and everything. Wow, Zito and Foxy and everybody back there heard me part of it. Bill, setting up the camera, said they're out of the other shots,

the whole part of it. Genius. That was after a show before Hammer Don. Because he had to go to another thing or whatever. So it all had to happen very quickly. I feel like we executed like a pit crew, boys. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Sweet signature, too. It was. He signed the gun. Strength and honor. Jack Carr. It's like, no. Yeah. New York Times bestseller, right?

Already? Yeah, number one. Number one. People were saying if it wasn't for that video. Uh-huh, that's right. He was already a New York Times bestseller before that video even came out. But imagine that thing sitting in like a glass case up here. Strength and honor.

Jack Carr. When he saved the world. Mm-hmm. What a time. Won't be able to do that when we get out of ESPN, boys. No. No, no, no, no. Save the world?

I don't think so. Not a chance. I don't think so. All right, let's get out of here. Congrats to Joseph Newgard. Oh, yeah. Here don't think so. All right, let's get out of here. Congrats to Joseph Newgarden. Oh, yeah. Here we go, Joe. Winning the Indy 500.

What a win. What a move. What a play. What a finish. Sweet. What an event in Indianapolis. Hopefully, you'll get a chance to visit it one time if you're not from here. It's worth a visit.

Okay? Definitely. Definitely worth experiencing. Need to experience it. Yeah. Yeah. One time, more times, however many times. But it was a beautiful weekend.

The weather was perfect. The race was electrifying. So congrats to Joseph Newgarden, American winning. Congrats. Hell yeah. Back in there. Congrats to Coca-Cola 600 that took the same amount of hours as it did miles. That race was all day.

Congrats to... Coca-Cola for putting on a hell of an event. Hell of an event. That's right. They got more than they could ever bargain for. Yeah, exactly. We got Fox for 10 hours straight. It was unbelievable.

That rain comes down, kind of ruins it all. Jimmy Johnson was racing, obviously. He's back in the saddle. He's in the 48 car? Yeah, 84. He was only... He is? Yes, he's back for this weekend.

He spun out, actually, at one point. He said he was only... He is? Yes, he backed for this weekend. He spun out actually at one point. He said he was only... I didn't know. He said I was only similar like four hours before I did this. I wasn't... I was nowhere near prepared enough as I probably should have been.

But he was out there racing again. It was good to hear his name. I kind of got eyes on it. There was a Jordan car that looked sick. And the champion of the Coca-Cola 600 was Brian Brainy. Right? Brian Brainy. Brian Brainy. Brian Brainy was Brian Blaney. Ryan Blaney.

Ryan Blaney. Ryan Blaney. Ryan Blaney. Boy, Ryan. Ryan Blaney. Congratulations. He's a dog. He is.

Won the Coca-Cola 600. That's right. That was like the, yeah, Ryan Blaney wins the thing. Hell yeah. 17 hours ago, 17-hour race. It was like the 24-hour Rolex thing. And then also, congrats to Verstappen for stopping. Well, he wins every week, so yeah. F1, you need

to pick it up, though. That was not entertaining at all. No. I saw that, too. I saw some of it. I was like, wait, this is what it is. Oh, okay. The scene, the setting looked amazing. Conor McGregor's boats there, awesome. But then I'm like, and then I hear they can't pass each other? No, not at all.

AJ, you and me had the same exact takeaway. Man, it looks cool. Let me learn about this place. No taxing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. Seems like I want more races over there, Monica. How do we get to this?

Conor McGregor's got a sick yacht at the back. He's eating pancakes as he's watching a race take place. Don't know if he can see the cars, but still a sick thing. And then I'm watching a race. I'm like, this fucking stinks. I must be missing something. Is it us? It's got to be us, right? Has to be. We're the only doofuses that are on this thing? Apparently the cars have gotten

a little bit wider and the track's too fucking tight. They can't pass anymore. Well, that's the thing about those old towns. That's right. Those old towns, small parks. So are you racing? If you can't pass, how is it a race? You're just hoping your other car crashes? Let's use go-karts for that race.

That'd be sick. That would be sweet. Let's see who's really driving out there. Bingo. By the way, too, for the Indy 500, that tire that fucking flew out there and hit that car. Bro. That thing missed. So in 2023, where we are in the world, with how many things have happened,

the amount of safety precaution shit that has to take place at all these events, we're talking about a year-round thing, building up the walls, where things are, where cages are, where people are allowed to sit, where they're not allowed to sit. I mean, there's like a full tactical team on not only keeping the drivers alive, but everybody that's at the race as well, because you've got a rage happening in the middle, a festival happening in the middle. 300,000 people coming. It's a full-time job of keeping everybody safe.

That tire flying over the fence past a group of spectators. There's a photo of like 10 people in a party of thousands. They're just like, oh, fuck. They're surprised as well because with how much they've built up that fence and built everything you're very comfortable thinking they they know that there's nothing that can get out here right it's impossible but when kyle kirkwood i believe his name was flips upside down in this entire thing and then a wheel shoots off and it goes flying over the fence i bet you a lot of people are kind of in shock oh yeah but that fucker kills that's death i thought that oh yeah was going to kill someone.

Oh, yeah. Imagine a little kid getting hit right in the head with that. Boom. You have no time to react either. Like, none. That wheel is going so fast. Not lucky. Fucked up the front of this car.

The lady that owns this car, and there's a classic yellow shirt. Not allowed to film it. Not allowed to stand. Don't look at it. These yellow shirts. These yellow shirts are the worst Navy SEALs out there I don't want to judge all yellow shirts

But they do seemingly all act And look the exact same And it is tough to handle But they got a job to do They know they got a job to do On this particular day, they are Navy SEALs And you need to get out of their way And do exactly as they are told

Even though they have no badge or anything that proves that they should be in charge, they are trying to lock down 300,000 plus. So you've got to have respect for that. That lady got to kiss the bricks. I think they're going to do something else for her car. You see the damage happen to the front end of the fucking vehicle.

I couldn't even imagine a fan. Your head? Gone. Your head's gone. Straight. Gone. Straight off. I don't know. I've been doing some neck. You're decapitated. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Russell Wilson. You're going to headbutt that tire going 190 miles an hour? Imagine how hot that tire is. Pretty hot. Oh, my gosh. That's why it takes your head off. Did someone take that tire home, you think? I would have.

Yeah. I know a shirt. That would be awesome. If that's anything like I think it is Tire that's just rolling right afterwards Who knows where they caught that Are they going to raise the fence you think probably Yeah they'll probably in that particular corner

They'll come out with a full some architect Some very very smart person Will come out and say we feel that That has exposed a flaw in our thing We will now put them at this height Because there's no way that a car, tire, or any piece of it. Because a vehicle, too, when those things flip and start getting shredded, that's metal. It's like carbon fiber.

Oh, yeah. And it's like there is layers and layers and layers. There's a grenade going off. Bingo. Yeah, there's a rocket. Yeah. So they've got to keep everybody safe. I think they did that.

Who knows? Second most attended Indy 500 in the history of the Indy 500. 107th running of it or whatever. Congrats to another great weekend at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. You're right. That tire was bananas and peanut butter. Yeah. Miliano Grillo won the PGA

this weekend. I've seen that in overtime. What a moment between him and those kids. Yeah, it was awesome. After he just doubled to basically lose a tourney. He said that whenever he was a child some golf some golfer invited him onto the driving range whenever the guy was getting ready for a potential extra holes he said he remembered it for his entire life might be the reason why shout out to the sticks might be the reason why he became a professional golfer is kind of how he told it so in that moment he saw those kids overlooking

so why don't you come on out here whenever he just potentially blew an entire tournament. And you know, I think the golf gods rewarded him. They did. Absolutely, yeah. Second hole, first hole. So they did the first hole and then there was the par three. I think it was the par three, wasn't it? Yeah. Because he puts that thing to like four feet and the other guy puts it off the green. Hell of a... Shank,

great perspective. It was. It was really cool to hear. Yeah, that's sweet. He brought him into the locker room afterwards when he won, too. Griller's a star. Yeah, he's a beast. We have an elevated event this weekend. Yeah, there's really nobody. Memorial.

Yeah, right here. Memorial. You rent your house? Nope, I'm here. I'm right in. I'm in the house. Well, right now. It's Tuesday.

So, I didn't know if you were cleaning it. Yeah, Peyton's playing at the Pro-Am tomorrow. Really? Are you invited to play in it or no? I am not. Workday is the top sponsor. Peyton does something with Workday. Him and Larry Fitzgerald and some country singer guy is playing as well.

Workday sticks. Pod Dirt? Jordan Davis? Yeah. I don't know. I forget the guy's name. Kelly James. Is that his name?

Is that right? Is that somebody? No, he's the golf guy. You know him. You know who Kelly James is. A.J. Hawk with the Moc.. Kelly James. Is that his name? Is that right? Is that somebody? No, he's the golf guy. You know him. You know who Kelly James is. A.J. Hawk with the mark. No. That might be Kelly James.

This dude's a dog. Kelly James? Are you asking Axel or us? I think there's a country singer named Kelly James who's playing in the thing tomorrow. Jesse James? Good luck to all of them. Good luck to everybody. Pac-Man, you want to try to give away some merches? Yeah.Man, you want to try to give away some merches?

Yeah. What do you want to do? New season of I Think You Should Leave is that available? Headset Pac-Man. Headset Pac-Man. Yeah, you got to putt with the golf is dope shirt is what Diggs is trying to say there. You know, the conversation Thursday.

He straightened like four out of five last time, I feel like. Sweet. He said you suck at golf. No, no, the conversation Thursday. He straightened like four out of five last time, I feel like. Sweet. Three out of five. He said you suck at golf. No, no. I said Thursday. The conversation was, hey, we can hit the moonshot on Tuesday. Yeah, but he wore the golfers' dope.

Exactly. He didn't say basketball's dope. Yeah. If it said basketball's dope, he'd be doing a moonshot. He'd be shooting, yeah. I don't know if basketball's dope would work on that shirt. B-ball is dope would work. There it is.

Yeah. How many? Still one extra letter. You-ball is dope would work. There it is. Yeah. How many? Still one extra letter. You got to go two of five. Oh, we got Louboutins on right now? What are those? What the hell are they? Those are, yeah.

Diamond shoes? Those are Louis V. They got red bottoms on them there? Sweet. No. What kind of pants are those? That's awesome. You have so much incredible shit

You just forget where they're from Could you imagine having those shoes And not knowing what the fuck they are? Oh man Look at those shoes That's a really good point Look at those shoes Those things are incredible

You got no socks in there thing Or you got short socks on? No socks So cool He did a Murph this morning He did the Murph Yeah Rest in the feet

Diamonds AJ you can do the Murph? No chance. Me neither. That almost killed me, AJ. I mean, mile run to start and finish. That alone, that's a no non-starter for me right there. So I think you can just walk it, but with a little bit of beat.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I can do it in six hours. Cool. Exactly. Why am I doing that? That's the only goal, by the way. Yeah, we have to do it next year.

Just have to complete it. You we have to do it next year. You've got to complete it next year. What? That's going to be a real problem. You don't want to donate money? Yeah, it's for charity. $100,000. I'll donate. I'll donate to the Murph Foundation.

You don't have to donate. You've just got to do one mile run, 100 pull-ups, 200 push-ups, 300 squats, and then another mile run with a 20-pound vest on. You don't have to donate. Just your time and effort for fucking Navy SEAL merch. Come on, AJ. Yeah, I like it. Support the troops.

Zuck did it. You were pumped. I know. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable time. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Unbelievable as if you don't think Zuck did it? Well, as in terrific, as in spectacular as well.

Okay, all right, good. Which it is. I agree. Pac-Man, you go 205 here. We'll give 15 people some merch. all right, good. Which it is. I agree. Pac-Man, you go two of five here. We'll give 15 people some merch. Here you go, Pac. Golf is dope. But do we have any video of him doing it?

Who? AJ? He said he didn't do it. I didn't do the merch, no. Yeah, AQ said he did. That's another white, same A. And the face made it seem like he did. Nailed it.

Oh! Jesus. You got the spot, though. All Pac-Man Jones has to do is go two of four here, and 15 people win some merches. You got to retweet this video, say something nice to somebody, and you could potentially be one of 15 merch winners if Pac-Man with incredible shoes, a Golf is Dope t-shirt,

and a putter stroke. That's a great stroke. Here we go. It is. Ladies and gentlemen, all you've got to do is one for two here. One for two, and 15 people win some merches. All you've got to do is retweet this video. Say something nice to somebody.

It all comes down to this. Come on, Pac. You got it. I just drained it. If Pac-Man Jones can make this putt, 15 people will win some merches. All you got to do is retweet this video, say something nice to somebody, and... Boom! Because golf is dope, as is Pac-Man Jones.

That's a great way to finish up this Tuesday, May 30th. Have a good putt. If you can put your ears back on, Pac-Man, somebody wants to congratulate you on those incredible putts. I can't wait to see who the 15 merch winners are. I hope you have a great time because Pac-Man Jones just earned that there. That's right. Hell yeah. Second putt, last putt.

Not a bad mental little ride he had to go on. And then he knocked that home whenever he needed to. Joining us now is a man who was able to accomplish the Murph, allegedly. Ladies and gentlemen, A.Q. Shipley. Yay! A.Q. Shipley. Yeah! A.Q.! A.Q., listen, here's the deal.

Let's dive right in. Hey, we need to drop the allegedly shit, all right? Did Zuck beat you? Yeah, I mean, if he did it in 30 fucking minutes like he said or whatever it was. Oh, so Zuck's a liar. How long does it take for you? It took me an hour and four minutes and it beat the living shit out of me we saw your reaction obviously on inscript so can we put up what the murph there it is right there hour and four minutes after starting the murph this is what was created

obviously the baboon the vanilla gorilla here was certainly spent and exhausted which would make sense would you put this murph thing back up please please. So I look at this, and I think of you and your body shape, and I immediately judge. First of all, mile run, I assume you could just mentally tough that out. Fuck everybody. You're getting through it on the treadmill. A hundred pull-ups at 285 pounds? No way.

Is that real? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you break it up into sets. So what I did was I did 10 sets of 10 pull-ups, 10 sets of 20 push-ups, 10 sets of 30 squats. Squats hurt. With, like, how much time in between? The squats were the easy one for me.

I could do that all day long. That's because his job is actually squatting. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. Ta-ta. Ta-ta. That's because his job is actually squatting. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. The pull-ups. Now, here's where it got interesting. Where it got real interesting was last set of 30 on squat right back into the second mile. That's where it got real interesting.

Did you run the second mile or was it like a walk with a little skip? Do you remember college conditioning when you were, like, done? You remember that? Do you remember college conditioning when you were like done? You remember that? Remember how bad that was where you're like, you're straight-legged, your ass is out, your back's there, you're basically using your whole body to run?

Yeah. Yeah, that's where I was at. But you did it. But I did it. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Wow. Thank you.

How do you feel today? I got another workout. I did a leg workout in today, boys. I'm back. We're back. Oh, so you almost died with the Murph and you're back in there working out again today? Jesus. We shouldn't do this, AJ. This guy's a machine.

Speaking of machine... He can dominate it. He's got the ice tub. AJ, you and me next year, we're doing this with AQ. Can we do it together? Everyone right here. We'd love to do it. Yeah, yeah, that's what Everyone right here. We'd love to. Yeah, yeah.

That's what I'm saying. We'll come in. He's a scooter for the mile run. Yeah, what do we do with our knees with the mile? You guys can do it. Sounds like you have to figure it out either way. I'm pretty sure. I was terrible with the mile run when I had to. I got to go to the doctor on Thursday.

I think I got a bait consistent in the back of my leg from this thing. Okay, so your knees aren't great either, you're saying? Nope. Well, we appreciate you powering through. Did you go see The Machine this weekend with Burt Kreischer? That was a good. Getting great reviews. But I was hoping you would go so we'd be able to ask you.

No, I saw The Little Mermaid with my daughter. Oh, how was it? All my daughter's been saying how was it? Was it good? All my daughter's been saying is that it's been scary for the whole weekend. I think she's traumatized. Ursula really traumatized her.

That's because Melissa McCarthy is a fucking world-class actor. Is this first heel in your daughter's life? Heel, bad person? I think so. Wow. Ursula doesn't fuck around. No, she doesn't. So you should have prepared her bad. So this is bad coaching.

Have you seen this movie? Yeah, it's bad. The Little Mermaid? It just came out. No, but I've seen the original. Ursula's a bad person, I guess. Yeah, she's an octopus. Yeah.

Melmac crushes. Who was that? Oh, nice. That was ZD. Kind of sounded like President Obama back there. Don't sleep on burial. Okay. Got all out. Is there a vampire here?

One. One. Thank you, Zito. All right, AQ. Good luck out there getting off the jaw and taking a shit this morning. A little tough standing? I'm doing all right, guys. I'm doing all right.

I mean, the fact of my knee is killing me, but I'm doing all right. All right. We appreciate you, AQ. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ. Thank you. Let's get the hell out of here. He does fight camp, so he's ready to rip apart.

You saw him at fight camp. Yeah, true. Dead. Suck and win big time, yeah. He's really, you know that feeling he said, described it about like those college workouts? I haven't felt that in a long time. He has to feel pretty good while he's in the middle of that.

Like immediately afterwards. The feeling is like... That sense of accomplishment. I did it, you know what I mean? Gotta feel good. We're doing it next year. Right here, we're going to line up treadmills. Yep.

Well, I mean, I think that's a bad idea. Yeah, I'm not running on a treadmill. What are you doing? You're running outside? Murph did it outside. What are you going to do? You're going to do a lap around our field out here? I'm not doing any of it. I'm saying I'd rather run outside than on

treadmill. Well, then why do you have opinions if you're not doing it? You're part of the problem. You know what I mean? Maybe. Maybe I am. I don't know. You're not doing it? You're part of the problem. You know what I mean? Maybe. Maybe I am. I don't know. You need to do it. You don't want to donate? It's for charity. You're right. You're right. I'm going to feel so good a year from now. I'm going to feel so much better physically. I can't wait. Exactly.

We are going to get all the inflammation out of our knees, all the scar tissue out of there. We're going to feel better than we've ever felt 364 days from right now. Can't wait. I'm excited now. Alright, me too. 20 pound weighted vest too? Yeah. And not just my weight. Give me more.

You're going to lose 20 pounds this year. You're going to run miles in a weighted vest. That sounds tough. Pull-ups in a weighted vest. This one. All of it, you're right. Pull-ups have never really been my thing, but when I did get into a pull-up run,

it does make you properly jock. Pull-ups make you properly... Pull-ups are awesome. They're fucking impossible, though. You ever seen some of those people that get up there and they fucking do the... Because they're so light, too, though. Yeah, they got no legs. I always think to myself, all right, let's wrestle.

You know what I'm watching. Yeah, you're crushing those pull-ups let's fucking congrats let's do a land let's do a land you remember those legs the leg arm wrestles that people started to do too yeah that would have been a good one what are they uh they both lay on their back and they do like the one two yeah three. Yeah, yeah. What was it? Trying to flip them over, right? Yeah. Yeah. What were those called? I don't know. I don't know what it was called.

Fartlicks? Me neither. Did you say fartlicks? Yeah. Speaking of fartlicks. No, that's the run. That's the run thing. No.

I think you're thinking the same thing. You run a single file line and then the person in the back sprints to the front and you just keep doing that. Yeah, fart leaks. Oh, yeah. There's a different name for that. What's that? What's the other name? There's a different name.

It's the beep test. The beep test is not that one. That's the pacer. The beep test is a miserable thing. That's tough. We've talked about this before. I showed up at a soccer camp for a team that I was selected to be a part of.

Big deal. Like, okay, here we go. This is cool. I get there day one. We're doing the fucking beep test. First thing, this is cool i get there day one we're doing the fucking beep test oh first thing i as soon as i get there hey put on your shoes uh we got a little conditioning test going on here what is beep this it's just so it's just i think it's 20 yards yeah i heard beckham would kill that that's the only time i ever heard about that when soccer

players told me beckham would just annihilate that test yeah it's a soccer i think it is a soccer test midfielder certainly i, here's me making excuses. Midfielder is probably in much better shape than, like, I was, for instance, because I was a master at finding the hole in the game and taking a good 30- to 45-second break while soccer is happening. You know what I mean? I think it's 20 yards, though. And then it's just a beep sound.

You have a certain amount of time to get there and get back, and then the beep kind of, like, speeds up. And then you have to get to a certain stage and i remember thinking to myself like i can't be the first one that drops out of here but there's like once you get to a certain level like yeah everybody kind of stopped yeah and then these the psychopaths the freaks just keep going it's only 150 holy shit you know like there's 40 you remember bar was we used to do the fifth yeah right which was the lap around the field then we would do like 10 110s or something 150 holy shit you know like there's 40 you remember bar was we used to do the fifth yeah right which was the lap around the field then we would do like 10 110s or something yeah and then we'd end with the 40s you remember the 40s yeah 40 seems so easy just 40 yards six seconds or

whatever boy those ones really got quick because everybody else has no time too so your next one coming back like no rest time. You got to stop and get back on the line. That's the hard thing. You got to sprint through, especially as you're going and trying to make your time. And it's like, oh, now I got to find a way to get back to the line before they blow the whistle and start again. That's the beep test. Did not miss it.

That's because it's so short. You got to get, and then you got to, there's not a lot of. No turn. Not a lot of rest time. Yeah, constant motion. That's like the 40, I think, on this would be the best. Probably wouldn't be that bad for me. No,

you probably actually. Pat can run all day. Yeah, legit. He probably fair well. Corners and wide receivers just run all the time. Wide receivers can get

off the field, though. Corners cannot. No. Always great cardio? Yeah. How much you smoke? I've always smoked

and worked out. So it's never been like, oh, smoking, it's affecting my play. Like a hindrance on it? I work so hard, I don't think the smoke has nothing to do with it. Le'Veon Bell said he smokes before he played games. Yeah, every game. Oh, you said you did that? Yeah.

No. That's the little stint we had in the program. But yeah, before every game. Yeah, what are we talking about? Yeah, what are we even talking about? What? You think I'm not high? What are we?

Are we playing football? Trying to win? What is the? I never played high. I've trained high, though. And by train, I mean like worked on all my shit. Because I thought like if i was high i'd probably think about a little bit more start cooking a little bit more so i always trained

high but i would never play just because if i hit a shank i wouldn't want to be like oh it's because i was high yeah you know what i mean but some guys never played a single game without being high yeah which is they feel like if they're not high horrible i've got a fucking fucking the team over here where some people thought the complete opposite. I think the worst year I had him in football was the year I was in the program. Jeez.

Fucking miserable. So is marijuana a performance enhancing drug? Might be. Might be. Definitely. Oh. Hmm. NBA.

They ever going to legalize it, AJ? Yeah, I would imagine once the money's right. Isn't that how it works? Mm-hmm. Yeah, they all need to go to Monaco and Yeah, I would imagine once the money's right. Isn't that how it works? Yeah, they all need to go to Monaco and figure it out. It seems like the money's right over there. That's right. But, I mean, the NBA, it's not legal everywhere, and the NBA has kind of got rid of their testing.

Yeah, why are we testing for it? Exactly. We don't want to know. We don't test for it, we don't have to know. Yeah, and once that's over, then it's fine. Speaking of, COVID tests, everybody in here, every single day, whenever you come in here. Okay.

AJ, you have to be in the studio three times a week. Deal. And then when I'm not, I'll send you my pictures of my tests that I take. Yeah, but if it takes longer than 48 hours, we're going to need those from a couple days ago. I was with you when we got tested for NXT. I was with you in the car a couple times.

How about it? But what if one of you guys has it? Don't we all then? So should you just test one? There's seven of you in here. You guys aren't really spacing out. Well, they only had a fucking small car. Sorry. We told them we needed the biggest SUV.

You want us to rent nine cars? What are we going to do? We need the biggest SUV you got because if not, we're five deep in a camera and taking a test about social distancing. What do you want from us? Never failed? Never failed. We beat it. Hell yeah.

Whatever number of iterations there's been, we've beat those so far. Yeah, but this next generation, you never know. Exactly. You never know. They said that about flu, too, I think. Whoa, whoa, not saying the same still around 1918 i believe yep spanish influenza we learned about that too didn't we crazy year let's get out of here happy everybody's still alive me too exactly don't like that we lost

people though no no because it took some people that we lost people, though. No. No. Because it took some people that we care about. Fucking bird. We beat the fuck out of this thing the next time it comes back. Bingo. If it comes back. We'll be ready. We're bringing hell to this thing.

That's right. Couple rights to the mouth. Ain't that right, AJ? Yep. How do we do that? Exactly. Social distance. Don't make eye contact.

Oh, yeah. Cool. Cool. Get whatever out of you. All right. Let't make eye contact. Oh, yeah. Cool, cool. Get whatever out of you. All right, let's get out of here. Big thanks to Ian Rappaport, Pat Cavanaugh, and obviously AQ Shipley, and everybody that watched. Pac-Man won 15 people some money. They did.

They did. They did. That's incredible news. Have a good one. Enjoy Axel. We'll be back tomorrow with a massive program. Huge. Tomorrow actually is a big day.

We've got Alex Rodriguez. Oh, shit. I believe we've got Alex Rodriguez tomorrow. We also have Bill Walton tomorrow. Oh, shit. I believe we got Alex Rodriguez tomorrow. We also have Bill Walton tomorrow. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Massive.

You think so? Yeah. I'm thinking it's pretty big. Yeah, I'm thinking it is. Bill Walton. This is his first time on the program. That'll be awesome. He's an open thinker, right? Oh, yeah. Okay, let's see what rabbit holes we get into with him. And obviously Alex Rodriguez, he has had some things said about him by some high school teammates lately.

Yeah. I watched a little podcast from – I saw some of that. Yeah, me too. I'm excited to ask him about, like, how he does life. And he owns a team now too. Basketball. Timberwolves.

Oh, yeah, he's courtside. They had a fight, actually, one of their last games. Rudy Gobert. Oh, yeah. But now they're hanging out again, aren't they? Yeah, everything was fine when he came back. Anthony Edwards is with Rudy Gobert in France. Yeah, good guy to ask about Rodgers handling the New York media as well.

Yeah, because he was originally in Texas. Yes. And came to Seattle. Five waves Seattle. When was the pressure to start taking on drugs? Texas? Texas, because he signed the biggest contract in MLB history. Boom.

Then they worked. He was with Griffey. He did good. They were awesome. Yeah. He hit the ball really well, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Legend. Just could see the ball well? Yeah. True five-tool guy. Great shortstop, too, before he moved to third. Mm-hmm. That's down there on Heater Corner. They smoke cigars.

Yeah. Hot corner. That's right. Great place. Great place to be. All right. Let's get out of here. See you all tomorrow.

Big guest. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Take, like, 20 hours and 13 minutes or so. Say something nice to somebody, though. You know, why not? Why not? The weather's nice.

Yeah. Sports are happening. Hell yeah. Life is good. Yeah. Goodbye.