The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 917 - Feel Good Friday With Kenny Albert, Buffalo Bills Center Mitch Morse, Coach Chuck Pagano, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s Game 1 of the NBA Finals that saw the Nuggets dominate the Heat, and if this is going to be a quick series, the Stanley Cup Finals starting on Saturday, and everything else happening around the NFL. Joining the progrum is one of the most legendary play-by-play commentators of all-time, the only man who currently calls all 4 major sports, Kenny Albert to discuss his career, the Stanley Cup Finals that he’ll be calling starting this weekend, some incredible stories from his career, growing up in the shadow of his Dad, and the his new book coming out this fall (15:28-53:41). Next, Pro Bowler, Center for the Buffalo Bills, Mitch Morse joins the show to chat about the Bills’ culture, building team chemistry, his relationship with Josh Allen, his thoughts on Thursday Night flexing, the Bills locker room, and if 6’5” is too big to play center (1:06:41-1:30:56). Later, Coach Chuck Pagano joins the show to chat about his interview with Ravens Head Coach John Harbaugh that came out this morning for the 33rd Team, and what his big takeaways were (2:13:24-2:21:32). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you Monday, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this wonderful Feel Good Friday, June 2nd, 2023, this sports program starts now. Feel Good! Friday it is, too. It has been an amazing week. And obviously it's only a four-day week because we had Monday off so that we could say thanks to those who signed a line and then are passed on and are still bigger badasses than any of us that are speaking into this microphone are. But it's been a great four days. A lot of things have happened.

And last night, the NBA Finals tipped off. We had real live sport from one of the power leagues in the United States of America. And we saw real power out of the team from Denver, Colorado. It really does feel like this is the year for the Nugs. Not only did they have to get through a little bit of a tough West Coast, but now that they're squaring off against this Miami Heat team, who played piss poor. Yeah, you didn't say that.

They're missing a lot of shots. Was that the thin air? Were they not? It was a ball drop. Were they at 6 feet at 1,580 feet or 5,280 feet or maybe in Boston with that muck of just like Boston people? Is the air a little thicker maybe there so are they gonna have to get used to the thin air so they can make some shots seems

like this was a Lakers issue as well whenever they're playing in Denver against the Nugs but nonetheless that team is electrifying the arena is the exact same they were blowing the shit out of the Miami Heat into a fourth quarter run that the Miami Heat had the Nuggets still cover the nine point spread got a little closer than any of us could have thought it was going to get late of the Miami Heat into a fourth quarter run that the Miami Heat had. The Nuggets still cover the nine-point spread. Got a little closer than any of us could have thought it was going to get late there. But congrats to the Nuggets taking one at least. Now, if you listen to all the South Florida marks

that are big-time fans of the Miami Heat, have been for a long time because they have won in the past and they have had very, very, very high-profile humans on that team. Big time. And now they're South Florida Panthers fans. Sure, they like hockey. Okay, we guess you are. Now, granted,

if this is what the Florida Panthers are going to be, what they have been over the last couple years. Last year, they scored more goals than anybody. Then they get in the playoffs and they just kind of collapsed. This year, they're in the fucking Stanley Cup finals. They could be a team for the foreseeable future. So welcome to hockey down there in South Florida. But if you listen to the South Florida folks talk about the Miami Heat, they go anytime miami heat have won they've never won

game one what are we even fucking talking about of course okay it's gonna get ugly sure there's been a couple series earlier this season where teams that would go on to win the series actually lost like 30 in a game yeah that can happen in the nba playoffs where it's best of seven series it's a lot of basketball people just show up some nights and can't make shit sometimes they're a little tired they're not as quick does not mean anything for game two with that being said this nuggets team appears to be the reason why other teams have the worst games that they have and that doesn't really get chatted about enough and i think this joker guy and obviously jamal murray coming into his own like bubble jamal murray here once again they are fun to watch i'm real they they had the two

time mvp on their team in his Joker character. Couldn't get on TV. Yep. Ever. You win a championship, will they be able to get on TV? I fucking hope so. I'm good.

It'd be good for the NBA. I like their coach too. He seems to have great personality. And I like that we have actual sports happening even though it was seemingly a very boring blowout last night in Denver to tip off

the NBA Finals. We got the NHL this week. Here we go. We got got golf this week. One. We got a lot of things happening in the sports world, and we're going to enjoy the hell out of today. Hopefully, we'll get some of your phone calls as well on the 5-Hour Energy phone line.

Go 1-833-432-3663 or 1-833-4-DADOOM. What are your favorite moments from the week? Let's hear about it on the phone call. I do appreciate the callers coming in and congratulating us and me. I am very thankful for that. Let's just go. We're past the congratulations. Exactly.

It's only been a few weeks, a week or so for everything, but we appreciate the congratulations. We are still catching heat. That interview I did with Jimmy Trena on that SI Media podcast, I think I laid out a lot of things. If you don't see where I'm coming from or where we're coming from, I hope that you'll just have a little bit of trust that when we get on ESPN, the show will still resemble what this particular program is.

And we're always going to be us idiots until we're not, and then we're just going to disappear. Bingo. That's been the plan since the beginning, and nothing has changed at all. But I have enjoyed kind of this entire time, disappear bingo that's been the plan since the beginning and nothing has changed at all uh but i have enjoyed kind of this entire time and we are thankful for let's get right to the shit yes you know what i mean on the phone let's get right to it yeah because you're helping us the reason why we're going phones you know what we don't have anything exactly give us something we don't

have anything right now because our show uh is very structured obviously of course we're gonna talk about this i'm gonna talk about this talk about this, we're going to talk about this, we're going to talk about this, and there's no chance that this potentially leads to this. And then we're just kind of bouncing around every once in a while. Now, my brain, I think, since the beginning of time, since my existence, has always

been able to kind of bang, bang, boom, boom, and let's keep this thing flowing, let's have a good time here. Every once in a while, though, we run dry. The water has run out in the well. So then we go to the 5RNG phone line. We're like, hey, we need you. And then all of a sudden, we got a whole stumble out the gates. Can't happen.

Don't need that. Don't need that. We've had incredible callers on this program. Who was the guy? Connecticut, UPS driver? Gary. Oh, Gary. Gary in Connecticut.

Forgot about Gary. I was thinking about him last night. Literally, as I was thinking about our entire story, I'm like, remember that guy? What was his name? Jimmy, I thought his name was. It's Gary. He was fantastic. He was the man.

Gumpy, incredible caller. John from Georgia, incredible caller. We've had so many great callers on this particular program. We love the phone line. But when you get through, and sometimes you're going to have to wait, guess what? We're waiting, too. We're fucking here as well.

We do. You know what I mean? That's kind of how it goes. When you get in, let's go, because you are saving the program, and we are very grateful as well. You know what I mean? That's kind of how it goes. When you get in, let's go. Because you are saving the program and we are very grateful for it. Speaking of the program that I am very grateful for, the Talks at the Table is here. At Boss and Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

One half of the Hammer. Cowboys Tony Diggs is here. All the boys in the back. AJ Hawk will be joining us in the next hour as he does every single day pretty much except for like vacations. Yeah, Ohio State stuff. When he needs a breather. Axel. When Axel pees on his foot.

Yep, exactly. I'm just going to need 30. What's that mean? Well, I need like four hours kind of recharge. You need to talk to my team. Stay tomorrow. I need to talk to the publicist. Yeah.

All the other agents. Yeah. See if it's still good from here. Bobby Carpenter, make sure. Yeah, definitely. Bobby talks to him. Yeah. You got to talk to Bobby. Kenny Albert will join us today. Bobby Carpenter, make sure. Yeah, definitely. Bobby talks to him. Yeah. You got to talk to Bobby.

Kenny Albert will join us today. Nice. Yay. About 12 minutes. He'll be the voice of the NHL playoffs on TNT this year. He's the only current and active broadcaster that calls all four major leagues. Pretty sweet. Same year, still happening. And he actually has a book coming out called A Mic for All Seasons, which it appears to

be a life story with a lot of business and other things going on in there. Kenny, obviously the son of Marv. Marv Albert, voice of a lot of sports. Kenny gets that gig. I would assume he caught some hell, but at this stage, he is so incredibly talented. He can call all...

His life must just be a constant prep. Oh, yeah. He's prepping at all times. Can't wait to hear him chat about what he thinks about what this series is going to look like in the NHL Finals. Also, he was there for when T.O. stomped

on a star. He's been around. He's been around a long, long time. He's been there, done that for definitely everything. Can't wait to hear some stories from him. And Mitch Morse, center for the Buffalo Beals. We'll join us in the second hour. Everything we look up for this guy, and obviously he's in offensive linemen, so there's not a lot of highlights or people talking about these people.

It's just like, oh, he's getting into a fight for Josh Allen. Oh, he's in the photo of the year of the NFL because he's consoling a teammate after a devastating loss. This guy appears to be like greatest teammate around. Can't wait to chat with Mitch Morse. We appreciate him joining us. And we're going to have a hell of a Friday here. So we're having a hell of a Friday. If you're a Nuggets fan, you're going to

be having a hell of a Friday after watching what happened last night. Connor, I don't know if the Miami Heat will ever play that ass again. Exactly. But are the Nuggets the reason why these teams are playing so ass? I think that should definitely be the conversation. Yeah, I definitely think so. The whole thing with them, too, is it's a different player

every night. I think it was the start of the game. There was no really shots from Jokic. I don't know if he shot more than five times. We can't switch. I assume that after a couple minutes. How's that continue to happen? That's a good question.

You know what I mean? Your mic isn't on either, Foxy, so you're speaking like I see your mouth I can't hear the words coming out of it yeah i don't know it hasn't happened for about two weeks now it's just i see the computer like that isn't that's not a real line it hasn't happened for like two weeks as if that's a long time no no yeah i'm saying like but when we do a daily show like things just happening just happening every two... This was not supposed to happen. Yeah, every other month. Who are... What is this?

Is this an update thing? Is this like that full-swing simulator up there where you have to have all... Every... Which we try. We have to... That thing has become a weapon in here. Yeah, it's great now.

We do not keep up with it, I guess, enough for all the updates that come seemingly every single month. We're back. We're back? We're back. We're back. Okay.

So is it something, then, that's pretty easy to figure out? We should be able to figure that out hopefully. Yeah, it looks like the memory builds up to 100% and then it just resets down to zero again. We have to reset it. But we've talked to the – The memory of what the switcher does?

Yeah. So it just completely crashes? Do we not have any presets in there that we can cut into the memory? I think it's a flaw. Like we have like a bad one. They're saying a new one. But we've been talking to their team, whatever you're going to call it. Jeez Louise.

Got a lemon. Got a lemon. So it's not the actual switcher. It's the control panel. The control panel, like, the memory builds up on it. Yeah, got a lemon. Yep. Yeah, of a control panel.

Got a lemon. Well, at least the people who set it up are great people. Thanks a lot, Don. So this is another thing why people are like, why are you going to a network? It's like, well, this is just one of the reasons. There you go. It's going to get switched out. If you do remember, I saw this happen to Leopard or whatever,

and this is just what happens, I guess, everywhere. But certainly when you don't have a billion-dollar operation behind you that has overkill in their production world, there are some days you're just not going to have power. Oh, yeah. Like our old students. Multiple times. Multiple times.

Middle of the show. Middle of the show, live in an interview. Who was giving? Kamaru Usman. Kamaru Usman was giving one of the greatest motivational speeches of all time. So good. Talking about whenever I start walking out there, you know, I feel like a warrior.

I am a king. I am a god as he's going out there. He wraps that up. I'm about to hit like a... Everything. Whole system collapses. Internet stops. Whole office have no lights. TV. Well, how do we figure it out? We gotta call it. We're dumb for the day.

This ain't gonna get figured out. Then something else will just stop working. There was one Halloween episode where we only had access to one camera. We dressed up. For three hours. Yep. And everybody, yeah, it was, it's these types of things where it'll be nice just to be able

to have somebody just be like, boop. Exactly. Let me take care of that. Not that Zito wasn't able to do that right there, but like after the first time that happens, you know, which two weeks ago, hey, thank you for that. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Got it done.

But it does seem like for the future, if we don't get that new switcher in the next two weeks, we should keep an eye on the memory thing. You know what I mean? We should have that as a jot down. But goddamn, it's going to be nice whenever there's professionals that are talking to these professionals so that the people who we hire, who are, I don't want to say all of them

act this way because we've met a lot of good people. In a lot of fields. We've met a lot of good people. But some of these people come in and they know that we got no idea what they're talking about you know so they like kind of had like a god complex almost yeah exactly so you offer up a question or idea you're an idiot because you don't know what this is that would never work i guess you're right i sure i don't know anything about that And that's like a part of the entire headache thing that kind of could possibly go away when you have billions and billions of dollars of infrastructure behind you. Just something to think about.

Just something to think about. Unlimited resources. People would like to see how good you look. The Miami Heat, they can't play that bad. Or is it the Nuggets' fault that they played that bad? It's the Nuggets' fault. I mean, they're unbelievable on defense. There's a lot of other things too, but yesterday you kind of go back to

what Bill Walton said and he said a lot, but one thing in particular he said, you know, hey when the Celtics played Will Chamberlain I am okay. When the Celtics played Will Chamberlain they just had one guy cover Bill Russell or Bill Russell cover Will

Chamberlain and Will scored 60 points a game, but they kept winning. And for the Heat, they decided, hey, let's double Jokic, make sure that he doesn't score 60 points, but then he ends up with 14 assists because all the guys he's passing to are hitting open shots. And that's what the problem was with the Heat. All the guys that played unbelievable against the Celtics, Max Struess and Caleb Martin, they were a combined one for 17.

They only scored three points. And then for Jokic and the Nuggets. Struess and Caleb Martin, they were a combined one for 17. They only scored three points. And then for Jokic and the Nuggets. Struess is a sniper, right? Yeah, he's their shooter. And for the Nuggets, they have. So for him, the thin air could be a thing. Wide open threes. Wide open.

But like he is, he's like Ray Allen. I don't want to say he's like Ray Allen. Caleb Martin was shooting great too. They both were. But like Struess is out there strictly to shoot threes. That is, on the offensive side, that is what he is doing. He's a shooter, yeah. He's Mike Miller.

Bingo. He's everybody. Kyle Korver. Kyle Korver. Michael Redd. Duncan Robinson kind of, but Duncan Robinson, I guess, plays a little bit. But he is that guy for that team. The only thing I've ever seen that guy shoot is a three-pointer.

Yes. Might have seen him do a layup once whenever everybody knows he's doing it. He cuts and does that thing. But he's a three-point shooter. One for 17. You know what I mean? The hoop gets smaller. And he's going to get the job done.

He won't do that again, though, I don't think. Well, you never know. If he's a sniper, I would assume he's not going to do that again. Oh, man. It's streaky, right? Shooters are streaky. They are real hot, and then is this where they kind of go cold? And also, we were talking about it earlier.

I mean, shooters at the Y, maybe. I mean, this is the NBA Finals. There's no way. Yeah, it's his first NBA Finals, too. Oh, no, baby. That's part of it. Shaq and Peyton Manning are shaking hands over there. Exactly.

Bingo. Shit, everybody's here. Yeah, lights are a little brighter, and There's a chance that's true, but also maybe it is the year. The other thing is, the Nuggets are huge. Every single player on their team is massive. So, Strews going up against Derek White, sure. But when he's

going up against a Michael Porter Jr. He's so big. He's huge. He was bringing it down the quarter or whatever. It's like that guy is very clearly taller than everybody else on this particular team. And I view him as a small guy because he's on Joker's team. Yeah. And I guess that's kind of how you got to go.

And to steal this from SVP, Aaron Gordon jumped over a Muppet, okay, to win it. No, he lost that dunk contest, I'm pretty sure. Exactly. But they recovered him yesterday with guys that were 6'5 and 6'4, and he just kept taking them to the post. What, did he have the first six points or something like that? Yeah, I think he had 10 or 12 in the first quarter.

But first, he also hocked up an air ball from three, so he could have had the first nine points, but the middle of it was him hocking up an air ball. And I was like, oh, the heat, that's the air. That guy lives there. A little jacked up. I'm just going to go inside. Him and Joker work in the paint.

Fun to watch They work incredible Like you said, Porter Jr. is 6'10 Jamal Murray's not a small guard What are you saying, four games? No Five is definitely in play though I could see a sweep

We look at it The Heat probably won't shoot as poorly As they did last night but you can't stop Jokic like he's either gonna score or they do what they did last night and you can't let him impact the game like that like that you can't win if he has 15 assists because you know he's gonna have a bunch of rebounds you know he's gonna score like if he's finding guys wide open and they're knocking down shots like unless the heat shoot 43s a game and make 40 of them like i just don't know how you beat them ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man

who might have uh some opinions because he is obviously called the nba he is also called the mlb he is also called the nfl starting this weekend he'll be again calling the nhl stanley cup final has a book coming out in the fall, Mike for All Seasons, because he's on a microphone for all seasons. Hell yeah. The guy can cover every single sport. That means his brain is incredibly large. Obviously, his dad was a talent, as is he.

Ladies and gentlemen, Kenny Alpert. Yay! How are you, man? Hey, Pat, how are you? Good. So, is your life just a constant prep? Like, we read this. You know, I've had the opportunity to be in the booth for college football, for a Pro Bowl, and for an NFL game, I guess.

I did do an NFL game. It was like 31-0 or whatever. Not really my – I'm not good at it. It's not really my thing. My brain, I don't love it. I get exhausted. And, you know, I'm not great for the viewers either but i did get to witness some play-by-play people in the work that they have to put in in the boards that they have for just one fucking game that maybe nobody's

watching i couldn't even fathom having to do that for all four major sports at the highest level are you just always prepping and memorizing things or at this point do you just have like a photographic memory well there is a lot of useless information in my brain and i do have a big head because i have trouble with hats and it's always you know it's an adventure to try to find a hat that might fit but speaking of that useless information and the vault and and the file cabinet that i have in my house i actually pulled out my game chart you probably don't remember this but here we go your second nfl game pre-season 2009 i was on the call colts eagles with my partners at the time uh the great daryl Johnston and the late great Tony Siragusa.

In my notes, I have Pat McAfee, seventh round pick, rookie, and also had written down the fact that you had a 63-yard punt the week before in your NFL debut. That was in my notes. I also had a little note.

I guess you were holding that game and I had a note that you had never held before. So is that accurate? Yeah, all these things are, yep, good research here. Hey, I appreciate you doing it. I went deep into the files, but that was the second NFL game of your career. That's fantastic that you still have that filed

and were able to look into it. So first preseason game, we played the Vikings, I do believe. In my first two punts, like 63 yards, 61 yards. And they just cut Tim Mastay like two days before, who was definitely a better punter than me, but they drafted me, they didn't draft him. He would go on to be the Packers punter for like 10 years or something like that, win a Super Bowl.

Yeah, I think he was on the team when they won the Super Bowl. I think he won a Super Bowl with the Packers or whatever, but he got cut. I kept the job like two days before the first preseason game, and it was like, that was strictly welcome to the NFL type thing because he was definitely a better punter than me at that point. But I got drafted, so fucking

sorry. And I liked him. By the way, his name was crossed out on my board. I saw the name on there, and I guess I had written the lineups in the week before, so he had a big X mark through his name. Literally two days before the game. So that's when I found out I was going to have a job

because I thought I was potentially not going to have a job, and then it was going to be like a whole, what am I doing again? So my first two punts go 60 and 60, like bombs. I'm like, hell yeah. Let's go. I got this figured out. I didn't even know how to punt at that time. So then the next week, the night before, I'm trying to sleep.

I'm like, I got to hit big balls. 65 now. And I was not mentally tough enough to handle sleep. I'm like, I got to hit big balls. 65 now. And I was not mentally tough enough to handle that. I hit like three shanks in that game. I think I was back out at like maybe not having a job. And Savaroka was the punter for the other team. And I met him in warm-ups. And he's 6'6", 260 pounds or whatever the fuck it is.

I'm like, man, I'm not supposed to be in this men's league. Anyways, great trip down memory lane. I appreciate that. Let's talk about your brain, your memory, your future here. This NHL Stanley Cup final is a great one. We are very excited for the Vegas Golden Knights, and obviously they're a newer team, an expansion team, a few

years back, have had success, but not to this potential opportunity. They seem to be buzzing. Jackie Aces and Stoner and the boys. And you think about this Florida Panthers team, who, I mean, Kachuk might be my favorite player in the league. What are you looking forward to? And what

are some of the storylines that you're kind of jotting out in your head for the first game tomorrow? Well, it should be a great series. I'm out here in Vegas. Traveled yesterday. I'll head over to Media Day in a little while. Two organizations that have never won a Stanley Cup. Vegas in their sixth year and how ironic their owner bill foley uh i think it was at the expansion draft in 2017

he remarked i want to make the playoffs by year three and win the stanley cup year six well they got to the stanley cup final year one lost to washington in five games they've had remarkable success um it was their fourth trip to the to the semi-final round this year and their second time in the Stanley Cup and then on the other side you have Florida as you mentioned a fairy tale story they sneak into the playoffs during the last week last season they won the president's trophy best regular season record this year up and down they were nine points out of a playoff spot in late December. They finished

one point ahead of your Penguins. Yeah, Kenny. I knew where you were going there, literally. They sneak in, and here they are. They beat Boston in the first round after trailing three games to one. Get by Toronto in five games, and then

our crew worked a series against Carolina. Matthew Kachuk, unbelievable, scored the two overtime goals. Four overtimes in game one. That didn't make it into my book because it's done. It's in the hands of the editors and it's in print. But, you know, that certainly would have been included as far as memorable games. Ending at 154 in the morning. And then Kachuk scores the game winner in game four with five seconds left.

So it should be a great series. Okay. So you were calling that game? We called the four-overtime game, yep. So we were trying to predict the next morning how many humans outside of people in that arena, like insomniacs, we'll count them. Yes, sure. We'll count insomniacs because they can't sleep

how many humans were able to stay up for that entire thing and then like at any point did you this might this game may never end because i think there was there's another uh a couple of your memorable games that you've talked about i think there was one that was very long or something like that and this yeah 20-inning baseball game. There it is. Yeah, I was reading that in here. Did you think that game was never going to end? And did you have that thought potentially for that Caniacs and Panthers game?

Like, that's another full game and a period happening after a fucking game ends. I mean, is there a thought in there? Like, what if this actually, okay, what if for the first time ever, game never ends? Keeps going. Did you ever have that fear what if for the first time ever, game never ends? It keeps going. Did you ever have that fear or thought throughout the entire time? First of all, going back to the 20-inning game, that was in 2010. This might be my claim to fame.

Never left the booth to go to the men's room. Seven straight hours. Diaper wearing, Kenny. You wearing a diaper up there. I did go a couple of times. You know, in hockey, you have the longer intermission. So I did go to the men's room. I think after the first and second period of the four-overtime game.

But after that, you never expect it to go that long. You're always thinking it's going to end in the first overtime, the second overtime. The intermissions are shorter. There are no TV timeouts. So it does go faster. Now, my partner, Eddie Olchek, kept giving me a look every time I mentioned, this is now the eighth longest game in NHL history. It's now the sixth longest game. I'm not sure he was too thrilled along with Keith Jones down at ice level that it was going that long. But for a play-by-play guy, you want to be a part of history. That's my personal feeling. So

I wanted it to go to that fifth overtime only five games in history have ever gone that long past the fourth overtime our game ended at the end of the fourth and I felt great I wasn't tired I think the adrenaline kicks in but the next day I felt like I was either hit by a truck or just got off a red-eye flight without sleep it took a couple of days I don't know how the players do it Pat for me it took a couple of days to recover from that four overtime game. I guess just the feeling of, you know, I'm on aoked, so Keith Jones, our great reporter, analyst down at ice level, he's about to take over as the president of hockey operations for the Flyers beginning on June 1st. And I think I said during the third overtime, hey, Jonesy,

if this keeps going, you're not going to be able to start that other job on time. I mean, there was a chance, too, that I that there was no chance that I was going to stay up. No way. But there was a chance that some people in our office were going to say, I think they made it through the second one, to think that there was a whole other one. And I saw the Panthers actually put out on social

media a form letter that people could use to send to their work or school to excuse them because they were up so late watching the game. I like so what are you uh you a coffee guy you doing five hour energies meth what i'm a big diet coke guy i guess i don't like coffee only drink tea when uh there's a throat issue which knock on wood doesn't happen very often but the water diet coke during the game, that helps out for sure. Are you just shotgunning those after like second overtime

and then after a third overtime as well? Not too many because you don't want to have to run out during the course of the game. We're close to out of supply. Got it. You don't have to drink too much. That's amazing because I used to be a tea guy. I've kind of dropped off the teas.

Now I'm doing these smoothies that have like vitamin B12 and everything in it as well. And then I'll take a five-hour energy, but six hours of calling a game. And you've got to be setting the tone, not only for the people that are watching, which probably isn't a lot at that time, but the next morning we're watching that whole clip

and it has to feel as big as it actually was, even though you are in your sixth hour of, you know, giving your entire performance pretty much over the game. We appreciate everything that you do. You've been doing it a long time. You've been doing it great. And we talked about this when we were chatting about you earlier. Like, you know, Joe Buck, Jack Collinsworth is going through it right now.

Like, there is a conversation around nepotism in TV, but that sometimes overshadows actual talent like i assume there's a lot of kids of people that have gotten on tv and are no longer on tv like joe buck every time he would come on the show he was very like he beat the shit out of himself almost because he felt obligated to do so because how everybody else does it and i think the reason why that happened is because when he got handed the job or whatever, this is only happening because of his dad. It's like, yeah, but if he didn't have talent, he's not

going to keep that job. Jack Collinsworth is kind of going through it right now, right? Jack has gotten some big-time jobs very quickly with NBC because his dad has obviously had a very successful career. And I always ask the people that are killing him, is he supposed to not take that

job like what is he what is he supposed to do and if he's not great like they will find a way to kind of funnel him out of there did you take any of that shit do you listen to any of that stuff and do you know how many people are like after the seats that you're in because there's only a few of you guys uh and girls that get to basically do play-by-play are the biggest things that happen in our sports world? Right, it's a great question, and I write about this in my book. I was very fortunate to grow up in a sportscasting family. It was great. With my father and my uncles, I got to tag along

and go to games throughout my childhood. And when I was old enough, I would start bringing a tape recorder to Madison Square Garden or Shea Stadium. My parents gave me a toy tape recorder for my birthday when I was five or six years old, and I would call games in my bedroom. And it was just something that I always loved doing. And obviously, I had a great teacher that I grew up with in my house, and I would learn via osmosis. I was never told, you have to go into this. It was something that I always wanted to do.

was never told you have to go into this it was something that I always wanted to do and there are lawyers and doctors you know thousands of them around the country whose children get into the same profession it's what you grow up around and I had a huge break in high school when a local cable station came to my school to film a girls basketball game and I volunteered to announce the game they clipped a microphone onto my shirt and wound up working 75 to 100 games in all sports during my high school years. And it was I felt like I had such an advantage because at that time, kids my age didn't have those opportunities. But I worked hard at it. And then fast forwarding, my first job was minor league hockey in Baltimore, a team called the Skipjacks. And it was the best two years that I could have ever imagined. Just getting the reps, eight, 10 hour bus rides.

There's a story in the book, a fake arrest, a prank that was set up. Larry Trotz, who was our assistant coach and my roommate on the road for two years. And now he's the third winningest coach in NHL history led the Washington Capitals to a Stanley Cup but those years were very important as far as developing my own style and then you mentioned Joe Buck in 94 Rupert Murdoch and Fox make this crazy unexpected bid for the NFC package that had been on CBS for about 38 years and Fox decides to hire John Madden and Pat Summerall, two of the all-time greats, Dick Stockton and Matt Millen. And then they took a chance on four young, unproven play-by-play broadcasters. And I'm very proud to say that I'm heading into my 30th year,

believe it or not, with Fox. Joe Buck is a legend in the business now with Monday Night Football, but a countless number of Super Bowls and World Series. Kevin Harlan was one of the original hires at Fox. He's gone on to a great career at CBS and TNT. Tom Brenneman, who was at Fox for over 25 years. So like you said, we all may have had a little bit of a foot in the door because we were able to tag along with our parents and learn by sitting in a broadcast booth and watching how

they did things. But once you get the job, you're not going to keep it for very long unless you perform at the level that's expected. So, you know, certainly, you know, we all heard things back in the early days. They only got hired because of their last name. But I think the longevity certainly proves that we've all been able to do the job at a pretty high level. Yeah, I'd say. I mean, you're doing all four sports. The amount of work that takes,

it makes sense you're doing 75 to 100 games in high school. And whenever you're a kid, we hope that everybody gets a chance to have the same views. And I hope this is how it is with my new daughter and everything like that. Your parents are like your heroes.

You know what I mean? You're watching them. You're getting to see them every single day. So if your hero is somebody that's calling sports, there's a chance that you're going to mimic it. You're going to pick some things up and get naturally better at it. So whenever something happens in high school where they're like, hey, we want to do these games, does anybody want to do this?

A lot of kids are like, yeah, call. Yeah, I've watched 10,000 games actually be called, and I've been practicing this since I'm five years old. You had to be the greatest high school broadcaster in the fucking history. I couldn't even imagine what that was, but I appreciate you saying

about the work. Like, hey, I still had to earn my stripes in this business in Baltimore with that hockey team. We got massive respect for you and your brain, pal. I think you should not only us, I assume a lot of people do, but the more and more we learned about you through this entire process, you coming on the show, you're a fucking workhorse, pal. We got big fans.

We are big fans of workhorses out here. Great work ethic. And you don't have to. Rich little kid. Oh, yeah. Exactly. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.

Didn't have to do it. Doesn't have to. Has a work ethic that anybody would admire. So to do it doesn't have to has a work ethic that anybody would admire so shout out to you kenny connor has a question for you and he is a fan of the nhl team that has had the greatest regular season ever since 2005 most wins ever most wins since 2005 for sure most ones ever ever. Post-shootout era. 65. Back in the day, Detroit.

How many is Detroit? 62, right? Yeah. 62 wins. And how many ties did they have? Well, not. I forget. A couple.

They did. They had ties, yeah. They wish they went to shootouts. Yeah, but I forget. They had a certain amount of ties. Should have won them. If they win two of those, they probably have 65. Who knows? Well, they didn't, unfortunately. Yeah, but they didn't have the opportunity have won them. If they win two of those, they probably have 65. Who knows?

Well, they didn't, unfortunately. Yeah, but they didn't have the opportunity to do that. But they could have. The Boston Bruins, greatest. They had a chance. This happens all the time. We apologize. Just have to clarify some stuff for the Boston Bruins fan.

65 is the most. Certainly an asterisk because they had the opportunity to win shootouts when the Red Wings did not. Most wins in the Crosby era. Okay. See, that was a personal shot. No, no. Why are you doing a skip?

He's the best player. He's the best player. Anyways, he's a diehard Bruins fan He has a question for you Kenny Thanks for bringing up the Panthers beating the Bruins Really appreciate that When you're looking at all of the stuff you call And Pat said it all four major sports It's unbelievable

What's the hardest one to get up for and to call Is it harder to do one of those late games I assume not just because it's playoffs and at least, you know, you're getting a big game and a big finish and you know that's going to happen. Or is it like a July middle of the road baseball game? Like what, what would you say is kind of the hardest thing to do when it comes to calling games? That's a great question. You know, I look at at it i prepare the same way for every game whether it's a pre-season hockey game a playoff football or hockey or basketball game you know i think back to the old joe dimaggio quote they have it hanging up in the runway you know heading from the yankee

clubhouse to the field um somebody in the stands might be watching him play for the first time so you always have to be at your best. And I have a checklist that I go through for each and every broadcast, which involves watching each team's previous game, doing a lot of reading, preparing charts, statistics, et cetera. So that's really my feeling is that you have to prepare for every game the same. Now, obviously, there's going to be more emotion and adrenaline in a playoff game than a regular season game. You know, to me, and I get asked all the time, Connor,

about what's the most difficult sport to call, and a lot of people think it would be hockey because of the constant movement, the fact that the players are changing on the fly. To me, it's actually the easiest, maybe because I've done it for so long. It's almost like riding a bike. Basketball is similar but slower. You know, the puck's in action for 60 minutes. The ball's in action for 48.

Football is the most rhythmic. It's one play and then 20 seconds. So you set up the play, you call the play, you recap it, and then get out of the way for your color analyst to come in or try and lead your analyst in a certain direction. To me, baseball is the most challenging. I've never done a team. I've never worked a full season.

I do about anywhere from five to 15 games a year with Fox. So baseball, you have the most downtime. Now, that's changed a little bit this year with the pitch clock. But the biggest challenges to me have been some of the other sports. I was asked to do track and field by NBC at the Olympics back in 2016. And that's a sport I had never been involved in. I did beach and indoor volleyball during the, turned out it was the 2021 summer, but the 2020 Olympics.

And that was a lot of fun. It was different because it was off monitors. We weren't actually there due to the pandemic. So it's always a great challenge to learn the other sports. I've done some boxing. The only sport that I've ever done where I felt like I had no idea what I was watching, this is in the 1990s. I was about 25 years old working down in DC. And I was asked to do a college wrestling event, the ACC Championships down in North Carolina, and I prepared

and I had a great analyst, but that's the one time that I really felt as the event was taking place that I really had no clue. I'm not supposed to be here. I'm not supposed to be doing this right now. What a whirlwind they're trying to prepare for the track and field.

You have to learn the rules, obviously. You've got to learn all the rules. You've got to learn the history, too, Cause you can't sound like a dumb ass. Cause as soon as you don't, they're looking for you to say something wrong. That track and field community, they're waiting. It's fucking God doesn't even know. You know what I mean?

They're waiting on that whole thing. I couldn't imagine the preparation. Then it's Olympics as well. Damn. Damn. Good luck out there. Only the world watching. I'm sure you crushed it though.

Again, luckily I had some great analysts with me who were able to, you know, pick up in some of the areas where I wouldn't know about the history or, or some of the rules as, as well as they did. So, but it's always fun. It's a challenge. Before the volleyball, two summers ago, I actually sat down with, first of all, I bought, I'm not ashamed. I'm not ashamed to mention. I bought volleyball for dummies at my local Barnes and Noble smart. And I sat down with, with the local volleyball

coach at the high school that my kids had attended. And she was tremendous for about an hour and a half. We went over the history, the rules, the strategy, and that was a big part of the preparation. Hell yeah. Give me a nice four. Give me a nice outside ball up there at the candy stick. Give me the top of that thing. Let me go up and get it. Maybe a little back set to a seven. You know what I mean? You're ready to go. Yeah. I played volleyball in high school. Fucking loved it. Favorite sport that I actually played. Zero chance of me going on to do anything with it because I was actually told by one of the schools who was interested in me. We didn't have to play libero. They wanted me to play libero, which basically means like, yeah, you're just in the

back row the entire time playing defense. Can't even overhead hit it over the thing or whatever. And in high school, I was a spiker. They're calling me IHOP out here. You know what I mean? Like I'm going here and I'm getting it. They're like, we have a 6'7 Lithuanian, actually, who we just brought in. Makes sense.

Who's going to be sitting right there across. So, yeah, you can jump for sure. So can he. Yeah. And he's got a half a foot head start on you. You're going to be in the back just fucking eating it. Great sport, though. Hey, great sport out there, volleyball.

Yeah, it was fun. It was a lot of fun to call. Favorite moment in the history of calling sports? Like, right there, some moment had to pop up, I assume. Well, you know, there are a bunch of them. The one that I get asked the most about and I've done fewer baseball games than the other sports, but the Jose Bautista home run and bat flip in 2015. That's one that I get asked about all the time. on television, Olympic hockey, the women's gold medal game in 2018,

the U.S. women against Canada. Football, you might remember this game, Pat. It was a divisional playoff game, San Francisco, New Orleans, back 2011 seasons in January 2012. It was Alex Smith and Drew Brees back and forth, four touchdowns in the last four minutes. That's probably the most memorable game. Called the Sugar Bowl with Howie Long and Terry Bradshaw as my partners, Notre Dame, LSU, Demarcus Russell, Brady Quinn,

that one stands out. But I've also had a lot of moments during my NFL broadcasting career. I had the Terrell Owens stomping on the Cowboys star when he played for the Niners. I had the Michael Vick zigzag 43-yard overtime touchdown run for the Falcons in Minnesota. I had the Victor Cruz 99-yard touchdown against the Jets to help propel the Giants into the postseason. This year, I'm back here in Vegas today as we speak. I had the craziest play in the NFL this season. Chandler Jones, Raiders, New England, the Laterals,

the interception by Chandler Jones takes it in for the game-winning touchdown. Did you almost say, murders Mac Jones into the desert with a stiff arm? Did you? So, you know,

a lot of those moments through the years I had, you were a kid then, but following the Steelers, I don't know if you remember, 1995 at halftime, Bill Cowher shoving a Polaroid picture into the pocket of the referee, Gordon McCarter.

There was a 12-man on the field penalty on a field goal, and the Polaroid comes down, and Cowher actually shoves it into the pocket of the referee. So a lot of memorable moments. The eight years working with Moose and Goose were just so much fun. When I think back, Moose Johnson up in the booth, Tony Saragusa on the field. He didn't like to be called a sideline reporter.

He was a sideline analyst. And those eight years were really special. And we all miss Goose. It's coming up on a year. But just so many memories. He would hate sitting around the hotel on a Saturday, for example, in between. We would meet with the home team on Friday, go to practice, visiting team on Saturday afternoon.

Goose was restless. There would always have to be an activity. So if we had a game in Buffalo, we would go on the jet boat in Niagara Falls. The only time I've ever held a gun in my hand, we went to a shooting range in Dallas with, with moose and goose. We went on a swamp alligator tour in, in Louisiana. So we were always doing something and it helped with the camaraderie. You know, you guys always talk about the locker room and the fun, you know,

away from the game, it was the camaraderie. And when I work with, with Daryl and Tony, we had that, we would always try to find something to do on Saturday morning to keep it fun. That's awesome. The most incredible thing I've ever seen in Charlotte, we did the NASCAR experience where you could actually drive the race car around the track. Now, I had never driven a stick shift, so I sat in the passenger seat and a professional took me around 150 miles an hour four times. passenger seat at a professional took me around 150 miles an hour, four times,

Tony Sir, Goose in through the, through the window, you know, legs first, couldn't fit his head through with the helmet. So he had to take the helmet off. And then he drove this race car 160 miles. It was incredible.

One of the most crazy things I've ever witnessed. What a dog, dude. Wow. Absolute dog. You sit in that passenger seat, we got to do that to Monique Karkar, but you're this close to the wall. Goose was following the line.

He's going 160 miles an hour up to the wall. I wasn't in the car with him, but he was highly successful. He got it done. Let's go, Goose. I'm happy to hear that. Great stories. I assume there's a lot of those because, I don't want to say those are on the tip of your tongue, it sounds like, but has it been a fun trip down memory lane as you write this a mic for

all seasons coming out this fall I assume it was yeah it was great um my my family my wife and kids uh pushed me to do it I I have all these stories you know stored up in my brain that I would tell when I speak at events or to high school and college broadcasters, a number of sportscasting camps every summer, as well as advice for young broadcasters. Fucking workhorse, dude. Yeah. You are a workhorse. I did it myself.

No ghostwriter. No ghostwriter. Of course. Yeah, we learned that. I hear your schedule and what you've done. There's no way you're letting anybody else. Yep. Started during the pandemic, finished it last summer, but it's a compilation.

Yep. Started during the pandemic, finished it last summer, but it's a compilation stories about my early life, the minor league hockey days, memorable games, Olympics, the COVID years, travel tales. One of the other ones that I love telling is 2003 Yankees, Red Sox game seven, Aaron Boone hits the home run. I'm down doing the interviews in the clubhouse with Joe Torre and Mariano Rivera, some of the other Yankee stars. It's like one in the morning.

The game went 11 innings and ended late. So I do the interviews. I throw it back upstairs to Joe, Buck and Tim McCarver, and they sign off. So they go to the late local news. I see out of the corner of my eye, Mayor Bloomberg at the time in New York is standing off to the side of the podium. His PR person comes over to me and says, can you interview the mayor next? I said, we're done. They went to the late local news. He says to me, can you fake it?

Look, look into the camera, make it seem like you're filming this interview. Yes. Mayor Bloomberg comes up and we do a five minute interview. I'm asking him about growing up in Boston. His mom's a Red Sox fan. He's the mayor of New York. And this interview not only was not on TV, it wasn't even taped. It went nowhere. I think he helped save the job of his PR guy.

How did he do it? I bet you Mayor Bloomberg killed that interview, though. Was it a good one? As you were in it, you're like, oh, man. It would have been good. Yeah? Man, what a like, oh, man. It would have been good. Yeah? Man, what a moment. That's awesome.

That's hilarious. A fake interview with a sitting fucking mayor? I was putting myself in that situation where we're just walking around and like, hey, this sitting mayor or governor or somebody of importance, mayor of New York City, pretty big deal or whatever. Big fan of the show. I was wondering if you have, like, all of our phones are dead in every, like, we have no recording devices. We have no service.

We're sorry. And Zito holding a fucking dead phone, okay, at this person who's very important. And then us doing a fake conversation with this person. Shake their hand. Fake interview. That was great. Love everything about it.

And then you're just out of there and you just have to go about your life, I guess, at that stage. And then now you write it as a book. Did Bloomberg know this happened? Have you ever chatted about it? I told the story on a couple of shows through the years, so maybe you heard about it.

Same mayor, six years later, believe it or not, the new Yankee Stadium, Yankees Angels, I'm up on the podium. And I'm told in my ear by the producer, Pete McJeska, don't turn to your left. Don't ask the mayor a question. It turns out this time, Mayor Bloomberg came onto the podium. I'm turned to my right interviewing CeCe Sabathia. And when I got home and watched it, it turned out he was on tv standing there and the

reason i was told not to interview him six years later was it was the election month and if i had asked mayor bloomberg a question we would have had to give his opponent equal time so it was actually a second situation and this time his office threatened to, they weren't happy because he was on television, basically was ignored. So his office threatened to pull the parking spots for the TV trucks at the next game. But once it was explained, the equal time rule, they understood and calmed down. So there's actually two crazy stories about Mayor Bloomberg in the book. Yeah, sounds like it. I think if I was Bloomberg, this guy's got something against me.

But the whole thought about them saying you were disrespectful by not letting him get interviewed, I wish you guys were responding. You should hear what we did to you six years ago. Yeah. You should hear what we did six years ago. So you talked about the Cowher story in 1995, I believe is the year you said. How long have you been doing this? When did you start with the Baltimore hockey team, the Hit Sticks?

Is that what they were called? Hot Sticks? Close. The Skipjacks. Skipjacks. That was 1990, 90 to 92. Did the Washington Capitals for three years. And since 95, I've been with MSG Network, Rangers, radio,

about 15 Knicks games on the TV side with Walt Clyde Frazier. Fox since 94. So I've run the gamut. My color analyst with Fox, Ron Pitts, Anthony Munoz, Tim Green for seven years, Brian Baldinger, Moose and Goose, as I mentioned, and then the Hall of Famer, Rondé Barber. Can't wait to attend his induction. We worked together for three years and now heading into my fourth year with Jonathan Vilma.

So 30 years at Fox, which is crazy. Stanley Cup final, as we talked about, getting started tomorrow. By the way, two members of the TNT hockey crew have a connection to Indianapolis. Not sure if you're aware. Wayno! Wayno! Yeah, first game. Indianapolis Racers as a 17-year-old.

And then Keith Jones, who I mentioned earlier, scored his first NHL goal in a neutral site game at Market Square Arena. It was the Capitals against the Blackhawks. First NHL goal, Market Square Arena in Indianapolis. Hell yeah. They need to do more of this. Yeah, exactly. I think this place would love hockey if they had a team here that was great.

Speaking of all the people that you worked with, for about three decades were the stories in this book coming up. I can't wait to hear the more. Every single, oh, here's one, bang. I would assume with all the moments you've been at, there's a lot of people in places. I can't wait to hear them all. Tony has a question for you.

Yeah, Kenny, I think I saw it was over like 200 uh analysts that you have worked with and called games with um and my question was can you tell immediately if you are going to get along with that person uh and then also like i saw you did a little work with greg olson can you tell immediately if they are going to be as good as as greg's kind of rise here to to the top uh. How long does that take? Yeah, I was able to tell with Greg pretty immediately. We worked one game together. He was still an active player,

and Fox on occasion would use on a bye week, they would pull in an active player. They did it on a couple of occasions. And with Greg, it was a Giants-Arizona game, and he's from New Jersey. So the game was at MetLife Stadium. So it made perfect sense. And he did a terrific job. He was so energetic, well-prepared, not surprised that he's gone on to call a Super Bowl early in his broadcasting career. Have worked with over, I think, 225 or so analysts, and the entire list is in my book.

You're probably not surprised that I kept track of that. I can honestly say each and every one of them I've really enjoyed, whether it's somebody that I've worked 15 or 20 years with or just one game, and there are a number of those. I had the opportunity to work three games with Troy Aikman, the game with Howie Long and Terry Bradshaw that I mentioned, Tim McCarver on the baseball side, all the terrific hockey analysts that I work with,

Walt Clyde Frazier in basketball. The forward, Clyde Frazier and Wayne Gretzky, were kind enough to write the forward to my book. So that is, you know, when I think back, a couple of, you know, unbelievable athletes, best in the sport, and one of the top 50 in basketball who I watched as a youngster wind up writing the foreword for the book. But you can tell pretty instantly if you have that connection.

And no matter what the sport is, you know, the first time I work with somebody, I try to do a little research on them as well as far as their playing career, coaching career, because you want to, as a play-by-play announcer, be able to lead them into certain areas, certain subjects. So that goes a long way towards that chemistry, and the synergy is knowing a little bit about their careers. Yeah, it takes investment to build relationships, though, which is even more time. So studying, prepping, investment into a relationship that has to be real.

If it's not real, everybody watching at home knows. And it's like, yep, this is not that enjoyable of an experience. We're trying to enjoy our time here. We're watching our favorite team or a team play something. So it's amazing that you've been able to have such good chemistry, seemingly, with 200 people because that takes actual investment and effort. You're a fucking superhero, it seems like, in the booth. Happy and lucky that you're on the show. Last question here from Ty.

Yeah, speaking of that prep work, Kenny, Pat kind of touched on it earlier in terms of you having your vault and everything. Every time we've had Al Michaels on a couple times, and he can go back and remember his exact call from some game in 1979 or 1983. Do you think, I mean, I feel like the guys who are really at the top of their game in play-by-play, it's almost like they have a photographic memory. Now, you don't necessarily need that when you're calling the game, but, I mean, you just did it right here.

You can pick obscure dates from your past and remember, and it's almost like we're there with you at the time. Do you consider that you almost have a photographic memory when it comes to all this kind of stuff because there's just so much stuff that you have to remember and retain over the course of your career i'm not sure if it's a photographic memory but i do remember a lot and it does come in handy during games or during the prep i'm also somewhat of an organized hoarder, so I keep a lot of my, most of my game charts, you know, that I prepare at home in a file cabinet, and the next time I have a team, I'll pull that out, so I have some of the prior research

that I've done, but I've always seemed to have a pretty good memory for sporting events, names, numbers, players, dates, statistics. Could you stump the Schwab, you think? You think you could stump Schwab? Remember that show back in the day? I remember Howie Schwab, right, from ESPN. He was really good. You're similar, though.

It sounds like Bear. It's weird. I find myself, if I'm working a football game or a hockey game, sometimes I'll see a number on a uniform and I'll think back to somebody who might have worn that same number for that team 10 years ago. So you could get yourself into a little bit of trouble with that. Getting back to Pat's previous thought about the analyst and the chemistry, during football especially, we go in on friday morning go to practice have dinner

we're with each other all day saturday so during the football season 18 weeks you're probably with your crew your analyst your sideline reporter your producer director um you know more often than you're with your family friday through sunday every week for 18 weeks having all kinds of meals together so you really do become, it becomes a second family. And I think that helps build the chemistry. When I talked about Tony Saragusa, you know, being a camp counselor and setting up all these activities,

you just get to know each other better. The more time you spend away from the booth and away from the arena or stadium. So I think that's a big part of it as well. Hell yeah. Team comes together around a keg. You know what I mean? Maybe not so much kale.

And I'm not saying you got to get boozed up, but it means like out and about doing stuff. He's where real chemistry is kind of found. And I feel like you learn about people, which builds relationships and everything like that. We're happy that we have a relationship now where we can say you came on our fucking show, dude. You are an impressive individual.

We appreciate your contributions to sport. Cannot wait to watch the Stanley Cup Final here starting tomorrow. You're the man, Kenny. Really appreciate it, guys. Thanks, Pat. Enjoyed it. And Stanley Cup Final, TNT, Saturday night. Hopefully we can do this again soon.

Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Kenny Alvarez. Hey, Kenny! This guy always has the hottest takes on all of the subjects happening around sports. By far. He's a college football national champion. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a Ryder Cup winner, although not a champion. But he is a champion of an entire state.

There's only 50 of them. Ohio, he's the champion of it. That's right. Do all states have champions? No. No, they don't. But whenever you're Ohio, and Ohioans are Ohioans, and Ohioans know exactly what Ohioans are,

they are, they can vote who represents us the best. That's exactly right. The Ohio fuck. Yep. Reigning, defending, undisputed face of Ohio, father of 10 COVID survivor A.J. Hall. Yeah! That's you, man.

Let's go. That's you. Come on. I'm a hot take artist, right? Oh, yeah. Well, not only are you a hot take artist, and we'll dive into some things that Nedra takes on. We will certainly do that.

But you being the champion of Ohio, has it settled in yet? Now that it's like kind of summer break, have you got a chance to go to any cookouts or gatherings or team practices or parties? And they go, Mr. President, as their champion, they say, we're thinking we need

the roads fixed a little bit. We're thinking we need maybe a little bit of an upgrade in this particular park. Are you handling things now as if you are the president of Ohio since you are the champion of Ohio currently? No. It came with zero responsibilities, thankfully. I mean, that sounds more like a city council person, I guess,

that you need to go to if you need your road to. Heavy is the hands, bro, that hold the state championship. That's right. Which you did, which was the shape of football. that hold the state championship. That's right. Which you did, which was the shape of football. I take this trophy everywhere. I just can't get anyone to congratulate me. I carry that all over the place. My kids, grocery store, no one says anything. Probably scared. What if you had that thing like a fucking parrot?

That'd be so cool. Right on your shoulder. Super glue. Tape it right to my shoulder. Do you have a meeting with other state champions? And who are some other state champions? Do you know? That's a great question. Technically, this is not an Ohio State champion either. Why is it?

I'm lying to you. What are you talking about? I was lying. Who did you talk to? The internet. I'm reading everything. A.J. Hawk receiving the Ohio's Finest Award to kick off day. You are the finest of Ohio. Yeah.

I.E. the Ohio champion. I.E. the president of Ohio. I.E. Kirk was Ohio's finest college edition. I think there's a college and a pro version of this. Kirk was there the night before. Holy shit. Kirk was Ohio's finest as well?

Kirk ran like the round table thing or the night before they had all like the last four Ohio State coaches on the stage. And Kirk kind of ran their whole Q&A. But because of amateurism, he can only be the college Ohio's finest. Right. You are a pro's Ohio's finest. Man, we got the entire state. Slow news day or what? What's going on?

Slow sports day? Well, certainly. But, I mean, we should dive into it right now. We just hadn't talked about your championship in a long time we need people to remember that you're a guy yeah you're not just a guy that's over there i need to find a way to make money off they're trying to steal my tickets have you seen that have you seen that is that season three yeah i haven't started season three yet anyways people are saying that you're potentially um sometimes you know what i mean but we anyways people are saying that you're potentially um

sometimes you know what i mean but we want to remind them that you're a fucking guy dude okay all-time leading tackler for the green bay packers and ohio's finest alongside kirk herb street who is currently yeah entrenched in a battle yeah man over cincinnati reds baseball and i love that the world is basically finding out how big of a fan of the Cincinnati Reds Kirk Herbstreit is. He's speaking very passionately about this team that has been in the fucking gutter for some time. And now they're starting to get good. Let's say, can we take it easy, is what he's saying. Times are about to get good again.

Like whenever I was back in Centerville High School, and I think he has all the, does he have most of the baseball records or did have most baseball records at that high school? Do you remember? I don't know. I would assume he does. Yeah, I don't know, though. So I think what I've been told is, and just information in my brain, and I might have just made it up because I heard one story, but I feel like I was told that he has, like –

he was a very accomplished baseball player in high school. The guy. Like, could have been baseball guy, but obviously loved football, was from Ohio, Ohio State opportunity to play football. Like, you're going to do that. So he loves this Reds team. He's in a social media. Have you seen this, AJ?

I saw a little bit of it. I saw he and Rosenthal going back and forth, and then Kirk doesn't seem like he's backing down. No, yeah, pretty passionate. And neither are they. I don't think Kirk knew he was in for this war of attrition when this whole thing started because both sides are willing to have a Pyrrhic victory here

and just go until the bitter end. What did they call it? La Faire? Yeah, some French term. Yeah, what was that? I don't know. I took a lot of years of French. I don't know what it means, but it is cool sounding.

Yeah, absolutely. Was it meant to be a positive? No, I don't think so. I thought Lafayette was like a not an affair in a marital way, but like a argument mix up. Oh, the mix up. Yeah, they are fair would be thought in this situation. I do believe that makes sense. I think that's what I'm

How did it start? What was the initial start of this? Herbstreet said, I don't want to hear this. Pretty much. Yeah. In a video. Trying to push Jonathan India out. On YouTube. Yeah, so they were comparing stats or something, trying to move a player that is in the infield for the Cincinnati Reds that Herbstreet loves. I guess this

guy brings an edge to the dugout. Heart and soul. Heart and soul of the squad. He is. He's an all-star. Yeah, we need this guy. We like this guy. And I guess there was an article that was pretty well thought out and obviously well done and held in high regards

because Rosenthal is the athletics baseball, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a pretty heavy name in the baseball world. And he – did you read the entire article? Do you know the beginnings? He basically said get this guy out of the infield and in herb street as big time reds fan offended that this is even being talked about because of how good they are and then now it's gone to a point

where they're like hey herbie we'll cover them okay because we're media you fan them you fucking root for him okay mark, there's a difference. It basically started because, yeah, Jonathan India, who is the Reds' best player, he's an all-star. The Reds have the number one prospect in the MLB, in their farm system right now, and they're saying that they need to bring him up, get him on the team, and if that happens,

there's a chance he's going to have to move into Jonathan India's spot. They might have to move him into the outfield or into some other position. And, you know, Herbie's saying, hey, the Reds haven't been worth a fuck in a long time, okay? And this guy is the one shining light we got right now. He brings an edge. He's, you know, kind of almost a team captain, if you will. And you guys want to just ship him out of town?

You want to get rid of him while the Reds are playing good baseball for once? I don't think so. And then these guys basically came back with the classic, like, well, Kirk, if you would have read the fucking article and actually read what I said, you know, and then now it's kind of turned into a little bit of a name-calling fest. Oh. Yeah, exactly.

A scuffle. And we thought it was going to end, but then, yeah, this morning right before the show, I mean, you just so eloquently put it, they basically said, yeah, hey, listen, we cover baseball. We cover the team. Why don't you just fucking shutquently put it, they basically said, yeah, hey, listen, we cover baseball. We cover the team. Why don't you just fucking shut up and root for them, okay? It was an interesting little moment. It was.

But you know exactly where Herbie's coming from. Like, Ken, you have actual say in baseball. Okay? People believe you and listen to you. Reds fans are going to listen to what you just said and say, yeah, and Herbie's like, can we not, please? Yeah. You got to love the passion from Herbie.

Yeah, completely. And then on the other side, you got to be like, we're allowed to say whatever the fuck we want. Which is basically what they said. Herbie has to realize that's affecting everybody. Because, I mean, this morning, I don't know if I was the only one who picked up on it. But little Jake was beside himself, to be completely honest. He was a little quiet. Hands trembling over there.

Sweating. He's just waiting. He's just waiting. He's gathering addresses. He's going to go show up at the doorstep of some of these people. Why? How many murders do you think are in this? He's not Bailey. How do you say he's going to do anything physical?

He wants to talk to him. He's from that younger generation. They talk things out. They figure it out. Hey, stop talking about that. You're right. You're right. Because the way you made it sound was as if he was going to show up and be like we need to meet up we need to

communicate better right let's communicate yeah i think the way you delivered it was the reason why i mean i can't help but you i can't help but you interpret what i say yeah well actually kind of but you're right i guess that is uh it's interesting because whenever you just write down quotes Yeah written out And how the person decides to read it Yeah is how That's a thing Much different than actually listening to the words I'm only saying that because I was I was in an entanglement

Like not the Jada Smith one Like an actual one Litigation wise And I read some of the quotes And then you listen to other people read the quotes it's like oh boy that delivery is important that context kind of matters you know what i mean context a little bit tone kind of matters and here we have the champion of ohio saying my delivery doesn't matter at all and how i say some people oh my god. Classic Ohio. Welcome to reality, pal.

It does matter. Welcome to the modern world. Maybe your reality. Let's talk about something that does matter, though, AJ. This Denver Nuggets team is awesome. So sweet. They are so much fun to watch play basketball. Obviously, their arena is electrifying.

That game started at 6.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Now, obviously, that's enough time to do stuff. But nighttime games are probably much easier for everybody, especially with anybody who has a family or anything going on at work or maybe you have to stay after your job a little bit but hey we got a finals game let's do that whole thing so them showing up the way they did how they did the fans knowing what is on the like right around the corner oh yeah is the first ever championship mean, what a night last night in Denver. I was pumped for them and their fans and everything going on over there. Yeah, obviously they are very fun to watch.

I don't really know. I don't really have like a 100% rooting interest in either team. I respect both of them. I like both of them. I'm not sure what I want out of the series, but there's no way the Heat are going to miss every shot they take the next game. They're going to have to figure something out. That's what I said.

At some point, a ball has to go into the hoop for them from three, but does it matter maybe to cover? Does it matter to win, though? This team, they're so good because Joker is an alien. A one-on-one. Right? No one's like him. And he's in Denver, too yes with everything bill walton was

saying oh oh interesting wow interesting joker huh oh who's the joker us are we joking are they joking who is joking oh not me oh anyways would make sense if that was the case yeah if he was not from serbia and he was from another planet it would make sense because the way he just has uh vision and physicality and touch and finesse it doesn't make sense it all comes in one person with how big he is you would think his knees or his ankles or his hips or his back the fucking back is always somebody's problem who runs a lot especially on wood it's pretty hard surface you're running on and you're big you're mad like he's a big dude he seems to be quick agile has finesse he has the power game he's like incredibly humble if somebody was created to be like your your team's favorite superstar exactly he'd be like this guy now i don't know how his english is i don't think

i hear him talk much if he could speak a little bit more, I would assume people would love him. But he is like the fucking perfect front man. He's the perfect star for a team, it seems like. And I love everything about it. But on the flip side, Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler is a guy that I would absolutely love to see him win. So, to your point, I have no rooting interest as well. Rooting interest, though.

Let's go ahead and pivot away from the NBA, the association. We'll get back to it. Let's go into the league. The NFL. And in the NFL, there are teams that can go on a run. There are teams that are trying to get to a place where they can go on a run, and there are teams that are nowhere fucking near going on a run.

When you're talking about going on a run, there's like seven, eight teams every single year that could potentially win a Super Bowl. That's kind of how all the super high-end football minds think from coaches and GMs. There's like eight teams that could probably go on a run. Now, Cincinnati, a couple years back, whenever they went from four wins all the way to the Super Bowl and losing, I assume that debunked the theory of all that. But there's like six, seven, eight teams that are probably realistically going to be the ones that are standing in the end. This team has been in it for the last four years. The team that is going to go

in the Super Bowl. It's because they have a culture that's fantastic. A bunch of dogs in the locker room. And I think it's because they got some leadership at a position that is very important, which is center. This guy is awesome. Beard fantastic. Moments electrifying. Full-on dude that you would want to have on your offensive line. Center for the Buffalo Beals, Mitch Morse. Yeah! What's up, dude? Fellas, how we doing?

Thank you for joining us. Have you always had a beard? Because it feels like in every photo I see, it is a proper beard hanging down pretty thick. Dude, well, so the Morses don't have very big chins. So, like, it really ends, like, right there. You see that? So if I don't have a beard, it just looks like a dick.

Just like this. Kind of goes from there. Imagine you wear a nice little tan turtleneck. You know what I mean? And then just go ahead and shave that thing back. Full body. Yeah, it'd be great. The morses just walk around town. town all right i love everything about it we uh i just talked about

the moments that you've had at center and i think it's because the moments that get picked up nationally in our big time stories for instance this past year you were part of the hall of fame photo i do believe of the year whenever you were consoling trey white after the loss and it's like you look at this photo and it's like well look at this photo, and it's like, well, why did this win? Well, because this is like a perfect depiction of what a fucking NFL team is and what you hope NFL teammates are like. And then there's a play that we all remember from this past season where Josh Allen's getting into it a little bit, huh?

A little late block, huh? Christian Wilkins, I'll push you back. Christian Wilkins said, nah, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. And then all of a sudden, big boy comes rumbling in who's fighting for his quarterback. You are seemingly, like, best teammate of all time. Yeah. Is that something you focus on?

Have the Morses always had no chins and been great teammates? Or how did you kind of find yourself in this role, you think? Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, as a young dude in the league, for me at least, like you get the older guys. And I feel like the older you are in the league, you can kind of be crass to younger dudes and just kind of get in your kind of lane.

And for me, I've always wanted to have a relationship with guys. Like for me, my biggest, like what I hang my laurels on and I'm proud of is being a good teammate, being a good dude, and being someone you can come talk to. Because I remember I have my own set of problems that I need to vent to my other guys, too. So if there's ever an opportunity for me to just kind of be there for my guys or just have a relationship or just play a game of pool in the basement,

like, I just want to be your dude. Yeah, and that photo was from the DeMar Hamlin evening, which is, like, the most serious night a team has ever experienced, it feels like. So I apologize if I get it wrong. But nonetheless, in a moment of full chaos, in a moment of full emotional, I couldn't even fathom the up and downs there

because how close a team grows, especially how close your team has grown. So to see the pillar of strength, it's a big deal. And I appreciate that you have that view, and I'm thankful that we all got to get to see it. Go ahead, AJ. Watching that video, obviously, it was amazing. I think anyone that's a coach of a team would love to see that.

You want to see guys standing up for their quarterback especially. But with Josh Allen, I would imagine that's a pretty easy thing to do to come to that dude's defense or help him because he's just this big monster that seems to rumble around the field. He's not scared to be physical. He's one of the guys, isn't he? No, he's a homie, dude. He just runs around out there like a lunatic. You want to do that for your quarterback just in general, but he really is just an A1 dude.

Just a kick-ass dude. You see something like that, the Holy Spirit kind of takes over, and you run into the fray. Like, I'm a pacifist myself, right? But something clicked, and Christian Wilkins is a really good football player, and it's one of those things that, like, right here, nothing really being said. It's just kind of my first time ever in a fight, to be honest, and I get hip-tossed, which was really fun.

And then I get up, and I think I'm going to swing, and then you realize, like, I don't want to get fined. It's a lot of dough. But that being said, Josh Allen is the guy. They're a really good dude, and it's my people, man. So when you see that, you just got to take care of them. So is everybody in the locker room awesome? Like, Poirier comes on the show.

He's awesome. For us, I assume the same thing over there, the show he's awesome for us i assume the same thing over there the way he talks about the team josh allen awesome right yeah von miller hey we've got a chance to chat with von miller and obviously he joins you he seems awesome like is that it seemed mcdermott's awesome bean seems fucking awesome every human we've talked to and obviously it's our first time talking to you we will assume because you immediately said your head is shaped like a penis in your first answer so we like we're a big fan we are a big fan of yours or whatever but like is it the entire locker room is just awesome and how vital is that you think to a team uh team success totally i think you from the top to the bottom uh what they

look for first and foremost is just what kind of dudes they got in the character in that locker room which I think is exacerbated certain times and also kind of a cliche answer for a lot of organizations but I kind of think they put their money where their mouth is in regards to finding good dudes at first and then you know kind of building them into good football players or just kind of valuing the personality first before football. And for the most part, I think the best football players have been around. There's some outliers, but usually good dudes. Yeah, it's a big deal. But sometimes stats get in the way. This guy ran a 4-3, whatever.

He's got to be great. Our system needs a fast guy. Yeah, but he comes in here and everybody hates the guy. And then if he makes some friends and then that spreads it that's like something they talk about like being cancer in a locker room and that's such a serious way to describe something but whenever they're saying that they're saying like hey all you need is just one one turd to be in the wrong room you know what i mean you get one bad person in the wrong room then all of a sudden that matriculates through

that room and if anything goes wrong they start recruiting others into it almost. Then all of a sudden that matriculates through that room. And if anything goes wrong, they start recruiting others into it almost. And then all of a sudden that little bamboo seed that you buried way down in there, that thing just takes off and it kind of takes over and change an entire mindset. It is so vital. It honestly is so damn important. I'm happy to hear that Brandon Bean,

who seems like a guy. Yeah, definitely gets that the most McDermott's awesome. Huh? That guy, he's jock. Is he jocked? He's seems like a guy. Yeah, definitely. Gets that the most. McDermott's awesome, huh? That guy. He's jocked. Is he jocked? He's jocked right now? Yeah, a little bit.

He's a good dude, man. I think one of those things that when I first got here, he was trying to kind of figure out how he wanted to be a football coach as well as a leader of men. And it's just kind of fun to see him grow along with us in regards to just being an awesome guy and really cares about our character and us as people before being football players. I think that was really the deal last year with DeMar, right? So he was vulnerable, his vulnerability to the team, really taking care of us and really kind of focusing on our mental not only our faculties

but just where we were as a team uh understanding just the gravity and the severity of the situation and how everyone was going to kind of intrinsically take care of that and how they were going to have the timeline for guys coming back just to be mentally into playing a football game six days later uh it was just cool man i guess he really cared about us as dudes first before football players yeah that doesn't come in the coach's manual go ahead AJ yeah it doesn't I wanted to ask about that like caring about you what's the old saying they don't know what how much you care until you know they don't care how much you know until they know how much you care yeah yeah there you go why is that a weird why is that well I guess why do we have to talk about like man it's amazing this

guy cares about me why why can't that be everywhere? That's a good question. AJ, I think it's, you know, this league is transactional. You know, you really try to get the whole family atmosphere, right? But that's hard to do, especially in a business, right? You preach, preach, preach. Let's make this a family. And then in the end, you kind of, whether you feel like business gets in the way

or other kind of things that come about, I really do think that he truly puts us as people, as a priority, where we are as our families. I mean, if anything comes up with families, it's just, it's that first. Take care of that and then football follow. And the same thing with being teammates and camaraderie is such an important thing for him i think ota is for him

it's just like yesterday canceled that we had a golf tournament like it was just kind of a fun deal to get the guys out there who won who won i don't totally i i didn't so it wasn't you i i didn't play at all, so it was fun. Were you just hung out, drove some carts, kept score? Well, so, yeah, so I'm shitty, and so I don't want to go out there like that. And I got two elbows that have been surgically repaired, and it's just kind of a dumpster fire. But for me, like team morale, right?

Like a dude, I just want the guys to have fun, make sure that everything's going well, a lot of high fives, handshakes, passing out a few spicy Gatorades, what we call them, a few beers maybe. What? Go out there and just have a good time. Oh, okay, so you were boozing yesterday. Like that, hey. No, no, no.

No, obviously, if you were, though. Yes. If you would have been boozing or whatever. That's an incredible – that's the Buffalo Beals right now. Yeah, bingo. Like, hey, think about how smart that is at this stage of the game. With how many returners, you've got a lot of people back, right? Am I wrong in thinking that?

Yeah, we're very fortunate in that aspect. So everybody knows their shit, right? Yeah. Okay, we're all here. Everybody's here. We're hanging out. Let's go ahead and build this. So this fall, we can go on a run for the ages.

How much has that talked about or thought about, man? So close, right? So close. We were fucking so close up there in Buffalo. Yeah, dude, I don't know. Every time someone asks me how we're going to be, I tell them that, and I'll tell you in January. Like, you go with these teams that, you know, just in the past,

where the teams that you think are going to make a run and they don't. Or these teams, like, I don't know if we got it, and you make this beautiful run. Like, we got the people, we got the camaraderie we got the coaches we got the returners um we got it all it really is just putting it together and also timing of it right like so um it'll be the ebbs and flows of the season injuries play a role there's so many dependent variables that we're just hoping that those line up and uh we're just and we're partying at the end of the season, hopefully. Hell yeah.

In the recipe, you're saying all the ingredients, it feels like. We got them. In the building. Now, all you need is, and obviously this won't happen to anybody in the NFL this year. This is actually going to be the first year this won't happen. Here we go. Okay, which is cool. It's cool to think about.

But all you need is an injury at one position one position. Yeah. Potentially something happened. That's why what the Patriots were able to do for so long is like mind-blowing because the amount of luck or fortune that potentially had to go there. Or Gates. True. All of the Gates. Also part of it. All of the Gates.

But it is like everybody just expects like, okay, yeah, you guys go win the Super Bowl. It's like, all right, yeah. There's an added game now too. So we got even more room for fuck-ups to happen or something on it yeah how about the thursday night flex you like that hate that what are your thoughts on it it's just i don't get it i really don't okay hold on because jason kelsey right he went on and said basically like anybody that's against this you

know they don't actually feel that way or something. He was pretty passionate about it because I think he knows, and he was bringing up the business side of it all, right? Like, the amount of money that's possible for players and for teams and for everything in the NFL. Like, this is something, Jason, it felt like, and we haven't asked him since, but it felt like he was like, we can do this

for what the potential upside is. What are your thoughts on it? And obviously there's a lot of big men. Obviously, you're a fucking giant. You are a big dude. I mean, 6'6 is fucking massive. Center is a massive, that's a massive human being lumbering. So sometimes there's bigger bodies from my experience.

It takes a little bit longer to potentially get the train back rolling after a beat down that is an nfl football game so i'm excited to hear your thoughts and that's why whenever i heard jason kelsey say he said i was like damn that's like the first time i've heard big guy almost go to the bat for thursday night football but the business i think and everything else that comes alongside of it is why he was saying it first of all jason kelsey absolute savage. Absolute dude. As a center, you watch guys and you try to resonate with them or try to copy what they can do.

He's just in a league of his own. He keeps getting better with age, so kudos to him. Big fan of Jason. I haven't really thought about the business side to the point it's just for me. It's about the dudes. Turnover, time. I guess there's a safe way to do it. And if that might be an oxymoron,

just because Thursday night games are the absolute shits in general for players, just the turnaround time. The only good thing about that is that you can do, you can have those. If you strategically have them in the season, you can have those three or four days. You can treat like a mini bi-week,

which is cool. But you just see it. For me, I'm sure there's a business side to it and the last thing i want to do is piss jason off or say anything no no no i don't i don't think anybody of it that being that being said i just don't see it and uh and um i uh hate him with a passion so that that was seemingly the the take by every player pretty much. Now, for me, obviously, you know this. My position, like, most grueling, physically, mentally tasking. You know what I mean?

Just so hard. So many car crashes. Week in, week out. They go to meetings. I have nothing to do. What am I? That's hard. You know what I mean?

It's tougher. That's very, very hard for me. Fighting boredom. Oh, my God. It's brutal. All day. Have you ever thought about it? Oh, exhausting.

Can't imagine. Exhausting. So the Thursday night games, I never had any, like, okay, I'm cool, man. I'm practicing on Thursday. Anyways, I'm bombing balls on Thursdays. That's cool with me. We don't have to change a single thing for this. But every human I saw pretty much hated the Thursday night games.

So that's why, like, it's going to two of them. It's going to two of them, I think, potentially for same teams. They're going to start flexing them. That's going to become, like, that's going to become a night, especially with, you know how much money Bezos? Bezos has all of the money. So, like, they are definitely going to make that work, you know, Mitch? Listen, Toradol is a hell of a drug, right? But that's a quick turnaround even for Toradol. has all of the money so like they are definitely going to make that work you know mitch listen

tordall is a hell of a drug right but like that's a quick turnaround even for tordall that's that's that's you know that's i don't know i just don't get the money is there and i get it like higher powers that be understand the dollar signs but for me i'm just trying not to you know get my 20th concussion and then the turnaround is just like I just don't like it Tony there's a question for you Mitch Pat mentioned it 6'6

and I looked it up one of if not the tallest centers in the league and this is going to sound fucking stupid but has anybody ever said that at the center position six six might be a detriment like anybody ever said that or is just being big being big and that's a good thing no that's a good question i think for me it was moving in i got short arms that keep getting shorter with every surgery i get and uh i i was thinking myself like my scene tomorrow my uh my rookie, I'm getting ran over by like Linval Joseph and all these dudes before you kind of figure out how to use your leverage. And as I'm falling back, I'm like, I'm too tall for this shit.

And just getting drilled into this island. But no, I think if you can play, you can play. Every person's physiological makeup kind of has pros and cons for different positions. I've seemed to found a way to kind of go with it. But that leverage battle is always something, especially in the interior and at center. So it's something that you're constantly working on. You have to remind yourself. But this league has a way of reminding you every so often.

How come those short arms guys always just say, hey, listen, you're in the middle. You got A. AQ Shipley. Because it's an island out there, dude. Like, those dudes are absolute savages on the side. And these little things aren't doing squat against a dude like Chandler Jones who can scratch his, you know, tie his shoes standing up. So, like, it's just one of those things that got him inside. Could you imagine?

I mean, obviously you have. And I've seen you'd be in a much better spot than me. But I don't think people fully comprehend, like, what the tackles are doing, how they're doing them, and what they have to kind of live up to while moving backwards. Yeah. So, like, you're fighting backwards while you're moving backwards. And then you got, like, some of the most gifted humans of all time, maybe. Of all time, maybe. Of all time? Like 6'4", 250, 240. 4'4".

4'3", like just 6'5", 6'6", even some of them. And able to move faster than you and touch the ground while they're sprinting. And then if they just put that paw on you, your hands don't matter. Nope. I go, I'm going to get my hands on it. Are you? I don't think so. Back in the day, you just hit people in the head, your hands don't matter. Nope. I go, I'm going to get my hands on it. Are you? I don't think so.

Back in the day, you just hit people in the head, I guess. That was the play. Yeah. I mean, like just seeing Von Miller in practice when he's going, and I'm sitting out there watching these tackles just, you know, and they're doing a great job, but they're fighting for their life out there, right, because Von is just one of those special dudes. And, I mean, he'll twist in every so often.

Your eyes get real big. But it's just a dude like that. And that might not be fair because he transcended the game of football, Hall of Famer. But just seeing dudes like that out there, it makes me very thankful to be inside. Yeah, well, inside has other duties as well that you have to pick up. Awesome.

Sounds like you're an incredibly intelligent human just by a few of the words that you've used in this conversation. Also, you're an NFL center. So that's what else would you be doing if you weren't a center in the NFL? Oh, Jesus. Um, that's a great question. I got my degree in food and beverage, but that was mostly to get through college. And also just the beverage part was really cool. I got there, I did the hospitality thing, the hotel thing, and just to go up from there, it was absolutely a nightmare. So the whole food and beverage thing was really cool. He did an internship at Anheuser-Busch.

I'm not a very big drinker myself, but it's a very personal business. And elastic demand, like win or lose, you're drinking booze, right? So it's just a very personal business and elastic demand like high you know win or lose you're drinking booze right so it's just a very personal business i really enjoy it and uh you know we'll see what happens after football i i have no idea you have food are you eating that weird shit the uh you like enjoy eating that stuff that like uh not very filling but like super duper you know what i'm saying no no to be honest with my the food and beverage part, the food part, I know how to not get you salmonella. Thank you. That's about the only thing. I know how to cook your food, internal temperature.

You'll be good. I got by the skin of my teeth. But it was really the beverage part. I think that's just a really fun deal, the alcohol part of it. What about the THC drinks? I know, obviously, to each their own or whatever. That's going to become a big-time business, I think. Just as somebody that has experienced the dope drinks in a couple different states,

they are a delightful little treat. You just put them in a cup with some ice, and it is your own cocktail there. I think they're going to get in there. I think all the beer companies are going to get in there, too. I think there's a chance. There's so much money to be made, Pat. I think it the beer companies are going to get in there too. I think there's a, there's so much, there's so much money to be made, Pat. I think it's wild. So,

um, yeah, I'm not going to answer that totally. Uh, cause my, I want, my mom's going to watch this and, uh,

ask me a few years, Pat, and, we'll be, we'll be sauced up having a good time. Hey, mama Morris, mama Morris.

I'm talking about me, not obviously. No, no, no. I listen, I listen. I think it's kick-ass, dude. I think there's a lot of dough to be made,

and it'll be interesting to see when the regulations come down on that, how it's going to be distributed. Here we go. Whoever can get the cornerstone on that is going to make a lot of money. Yeah, 10-4. Go ahead, AJ. Mitch, are O-linemen the smartest guys in the NFL, you think, as a position? That's a good – yeah, I think quarterback inherently.

You just have so much on your plate. Not only is it the most important position, you know, you're just hearing a play call. Like you get in the huddle and you have these quarterbacks that can really take command of a huddle and they have these super long play calls. And you look at each end of each position group that it pertains to. And you think there's a hundred of these calls in a game,

right? Or, you know, there's certain in a game plan. How do you remember all this? And, uh, I would like to think we're the second smartest, but I, I don't think you can really put, um, anyone near a quarterback. Yeah. I mean, some of those quarterbacks though,

they make it look so speculation, dude. I don't know. No, I'm saying they make it look so easy. I'm saying they'll make it look so easy. They make it look so like Aaron makes it look so like. I'm saying they'll make it look so easy. Oh, no doubt. They make it look so easy. Like, Aaron makes it look so, like, whenever he's, when Aaron Rodgers is rolling, okay? And obviously the amount of study time it takes to break down what a fucking defense is going to do and also everything that your people are going to do. It's like, that's a next level.

Like, I think some of these quarterbacks' brains are just like, and people don't even really comprehend it or appreciate it. You know what I mean? No doubt. First of all, Aaron didn't have to come to the AFC East. That counts as a bummer. Yeah, what's that all about? What is that all about?

Hey, dude, it's the absolute poops. It is, isn't it? He had a good thing going on in Green Bay. I'll say. He really bummed us off. That was a bad thing. But that being said, there are some dudes like that that really are on a whole different level.

You hear a guy like Aaron talk, and it really is kind of fun just to see not only how his brain works, but when it pertains to football, too. He's just on a whole different spectrum. And when you have a guy like that at the helm, I think the Jets, you'll see him really take a big step this year because he's awesome. I got to watch Peyton work, obviously, and I was in rooms where I didn't understand a word that was being said anywhere. But I did know the amount of preparation and study that's going into this. I don't think anybody has enough respect

for it or appreciate for it, and especially at center. So we appreciate you joining us. I hope you're enjoying the hell out of OTAs. Let's go win one out for Buffalo. Let's go win one for Buffalo. Have fun out there, man. Appreciate you guys. I really take it. Is Pac-Man in there today? He is

not. You know know in spirit though what's going on you want to you know what we can uh i got unless you got you got one minute like pac-man first of all awesome we got an hour 16 yep hour 16 at least at this time so dive in so pac-man awesome dude love you pac um my rookie year was 2015 where i went to chiefs and it was our third game it was my third ever football game. We had actually been to Green Bay and gotten spanked on Monday Night Football. We're going to Sunday and the Chiefs, what they would do is they'd, like two hours before the game, it wasn't required, but we'd go out and we'd stretch as a group, probably so 25, 30 dudes go out there and we're stretching and we're having a good time and getting ready

for the game. Pac-Man walks behind our area and just starts talking the craziest shit, chirping like 25 dudes. And we're sitting there like, this guy is one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Just the bravado you have to have to do that. And I mean, it was one of many welcome to the NFL moments. And just the dude is awesome and I'm really glad he's on y'all's team.

Oh, and by the way, congratulations on the new deal, guys. That's really awesome. Dude, thank you. We appreciate the hell out of you for saying that. And new dad. And new dad. That's on fire, pal. Yeah.

Life's good for you guys, so keep it rolling. Hell yeah. I'm very lucky. We're very thankful and appreciate you following along with our story. And then also thank you for telling the Pac-Man story. The Pac-Man story is awesome. Did he have headphones on? Did he have headphones on?

Take him out? You know, it's one of those things I didn't want to make too much eye contact. I'm a rookie. I'm just kind of turning around seeing it. Yeah, he had like one on, you know, the one on, but the one kind of off. So he could listen to his music, but still hear if anyone chirped back. And he went after it. And then they beat the brakes off of us.

It was game, set, match for the guy. It was just fun. It was really one of those fun experiences. You get to think back, and I get to tell my kids one day. Dude, he used to just catch my punts in warm-ups. You know how, like, he used to do that. Like, our guy would be back there, and then he would just slip in and just, like, catch one or whatever.

And it would always be a big scene. Like, he's not allowed to do that. He's not allowed to be catching the buds. Who's going to tell him? Yeah, go over there. Yeah, if I tell him, like, all right, Pat, you're not going to do that, he will catch every one of them. We are lucky he's in here, man.

Off air, just the shit that just comes out. The best. It's fantastic, as are you. We appreciate you, man. Have a great offseason. Thank you for having us on, fellas. Take it easy. Hell yeah, ladies and gentlemen, Mitch Morse.

Yeah! He was awesome. Yeah, it just sucks as a Patriots fan because all the Bills guys are so cool. No, not only just the Bills guys. Let's keep talking about the AFC East a little bit. Videos have surfaced out of New England's training camp of Mac Jones speaking about the new offensive command and pyramid and tier.

And this is what Mac Jones had to say about Billy O'Brien being the offensive coordinator and the New England Patriots having an offensive staff different from last year's offensive staff filled with non-offensive people yeah it's been really good it's been normal I think everything he's done so far has been really good I think the communication is the most important part and trust I think it all starts with that when you're with a new coach and he's done a great job and controlling the room. I feel like everyone's on the same page. Just got to

continue to do it. It's a marathon not a sprint so we know that and he's obviously had great experience in the NFL and at Alabama where I was at so there's a lot of good stuff that we've talked about and I'm just looking forward to working with him. Yeah, it's normal, AJ. It's normal. Yeah, we got to...

Was there any follow-ups? What was last year? Well, I don't know. Abnormal? I think it was normal. He didn't say. The opposite of normal? He didn't say that. You know, it is a little bit different to be in the NFL with, like,

you know, people that just are offensive people. Yeah. You know, it is a little bit different. And Bill Belichick was asked what was one of the pioneers of their offense last year. Alongside Matt Patricia, former special teams coordinator for the New England Patriots, who go on to be the New York Giants head football coach because of how great of a special teams coordinator he was,

was running the offense alongside Matt Patricia last year. Bill Belichick was asked, hey, what's Joe Judge doing this year? Bill, can you help us understand what Joe Judge's role is this year? Yeah, he'll do whatever I ask him to do. Thanks for asking. Beast. Beast. I had not seen that.

Yeah. So good. So I love that in New England right now, that whole experiment they did last year is seemingly the focal point of every conversation that's making its way national. Like Mac Jones, it's normal. That's what everybody's like. Yeah, it's normal.

We got an offensive guy who did offensive stuff both in the NFL one and in college exactly where I was from. So we kind of talk about that a little bit. Same page, everybody. What a time for the New England Patriots, man. It seems like they have all the spite that they could potentially need from how the conversation is going around the rest of the afc east and are they finding their fastball again aj is bill

belichick finding his fastball again they hope i mean they better hope they do but i think that's that's a good point though they have all these people doubting from the outside we know the afc is getting better everywhere you look. And they're sitting there probably thinking, hey, no one's giving us a chance. So maybe they can find a way to rally the troops and build the chips and see where it takes them, I guess. Connor, you've got to be happy. Mac better play well. Mac better play very well.

Yeah, and we think he will. Can we get the guy a podium maybe? Why is he standing like that? Yeah, because he rests his arm. Is his arm poor? Post-practice, tired. I mean, come on, guys. You've got to understand. Yeah, but he rests his arm. His arm worked. Post-practice, tired. I mean, come on, guys. You got to understand. Yeah, but at some point, you know what I mean?

They could have just. Oh, I agree. Even the Cincinnati Bengals, they had that one where they just were able to roll in front. Yeah, he needs a podium. I completely agree. But, no, it's a win-win. Or put him in a swaddle. You know, I've been doing a lot of swaddling.

Swaddle would have been nice. Swaddle, get the hands naturally. Maybe even just a crate or like a stool. I'm joking. He looked fantastic. Butaddle would have been nice. Swaddle, get the hands naturally. Maybe even just a crate or like a stool. I'm joking. He looked fantastic. But everybody judges every part of that. Of course.

The girl, was she actually closed captioning what he was saying? Did you see her flying on her phone? I mean, there's a record button on your phone, so I assume she's just texting friends. I thought she was PR. Because if you see the guys on the right, their badges are media. And on the left side, I thought that was PR. Because if you see the guys on the right, their badges are media, and on the left side, I thought that she might be someone who works for the press. Oh yeah, she might be social too. I mean, there's so many different... But she was...

If she's keeping up word for word, I'm incredibly impressed. There's some people that are doing that now in the media. They're tweeting alongside press conferences and interviews that are happening and seemingly getting every word right. I don't know how the brain is able to do that or function because you're going to misquote somebody and really put somebody in trouble.

There's a chance real hell can break loose. But that entire video was judged immediately upon exiting. And the fact that they're saying it's normal, you've got to be pumped. Oh, yeah, absolutely, especially with Bill O'Brien. That was the biggest thing this offseason. Who cares? Sure, we could add a couple pieces, but the same exact team that we had that went to the playoffs now

just had a different OC, and he wasn't an OC. He was a DC, so Bill O'Brien being there is just fantastic. And to AJ's point, if Mack plays good, sweet. We'll probably be in the hunt or in a wild-card spot. And if he plays bad, also sweet. We'll probably have a top- top 10 pick and we'll make moves next year yeah big time first round pick guys up there in new england yeah our lowest pick in the last you know 10 15 20 25 years was mac jones at 15 and bill won't trade out of there right

if he was to have a top 10 pick well the way they're talking about next year's draft who knows but the way this past year you could tell obviously he was going to trade out of that. How about him thinking about making moves and how do they write the ship? And he has a record right on the horizon, Bill Belichick? Yes, he does. I believe he is 30-so games away from the all-time wins. Yeah, the all-time wins leader, Don Shula.

Okay. So that's what everybody's like. Well, this is clearly what Bill Belichick is aiming to do or shooting to do. But is there anything else Bill Belichick is aiming to do or shooting to do. But is there anything else Bill Belichick will want to do with the rest of his life? Like, you know? Be a boat captain?

Yeah, I don't think so. There's nothing where he's like, there we go. I have officially arrived. I am done with football. I don't see a guy like that just turning it off. Command a naval warship. So you know how they're potentially. Maybe a lacrosse coach. That's probably the one thing I would actually say, yeah, he would want to do that, is command a naval warship.

Because the coaches always say, and you've brought it up. He wants to go to war, you think? I could see Bill, yeah. If we have to. I mean, Bill would go to war. Yeah. But we're saying he wants to do this, not like he has to do this. Yeah, like that is something he would want to do.

Really? Be on the sea, a bunch of the guys, locker room, you know, environment. But you've said it before. Coaches, they turn a certain age and they're like, holy shit, I haven't spent time with my family. His two sons are on the staff. It's not as if he's missing anything outside of the family realm and outside of that for football, there's really

nothing. Yeah, and the whole thought that he probably told his tight people, okay? His tight, you know. The Bill Circle. The kids, I assume, are in there, obviously. Nike.

Nike, the Husky dog. Bombo. Michael Lombardi, obviously there. Nick Saban. Whenever the whole world, certainly, whenever the whole world was getting real loud about Tom Brady or Bill Belichick, what's Kraft going to do, you know? Yeah. Before Tom Brady or Bill Belichick, what's Kraft going to do, you know? Yeah.

Before Tom Brady's out of the building and before Tom Brady's a free agent for the first time in his NFL career and he goes to Tampa Bay. When that decision is made, Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft tells Bill Belichick what's going to happen and how he feels it's going to go. And Bill Belichick says to his type people, he said, Tom Brady's going to play here, maybe to retire. I'm still going to be coaching long after Tom Brady's playing football.

Yep. So when Tom Brady's getting honored at that first home game, I wonder if there'll be a moment of Bill Belichick just being like, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. You know, like when they're hanging them at congrats, all the guys I coach pretty much have banners. Yeah, still doing it.

Just still in here grinding away every single fucking day doing this. His commitment to football is banana. Yeah. It is absolutely banana. Well, and he's not in it just to outlast people. Like, he's coaching because he wants to win another Super Bowl. Like, I feel like that's obvious, but sometimes it's lost when we're talking about, like, records and stuff. Super Bowl. I feel like that's obvious,

but sometimes it's lost when we're talking about records and stuff. Bill wouldn't continue to coach if he didn't think in a realistic world that he could win another Super Bowl before he's done. This was the shot they had of him waiting to see which coach was going to leave the building. He does strike me as one of those guys like they say, when Paterno

stopped coaching, he died two weeks after it. He seems like the kind of guy who when he's done coaching, he's done, and he'll just pass away. He died like two weeks after it. He seems like the kind of guy who when he's done coaching, he's done. And he'll just pass away. He's thought about that too. He's guaranteed because a lot of those coaches, they talk about it. Tom Moore right now is coaching

for the Tampa Bay Bucs. He backed up Johnny Unitas. He's still coaching. He's still coaching in the NFL right now. Would you see Bill as an analyst? Would you see Bill as an analyst? Would you see Bill as an analyst at all? He would have to. He did that show.

Oh, you're talking about the top 100 or something. That was a great show. I thought he showed a lot of character. He's good at talking about other players. He does it every week. That's the only thing. He could join the panel. He could be on a pregame, halftime show. He could get on the panel.

And I think, like anything, if Bill decided to be good, he would be great on it. But worse people. If he wanted to. And then also, Bill Belichick saying something. Yeah. That's like everybody on earth is going to want to. All right. Fuck. I mean.

Yeah, let's listen. Greatest coach and GM of all time. Remember, because he was both at the same time. Greatest coach of all time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. was both at the same time. Greatest coach of all time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also made all the teams. So, you know. Think about that.

Like him and Saban having a show would be fucking epic. Yeah, and he has. AJ's not a believer. AJ said, I wish I had two more hands so I can give that idea four thumbs down. That's what A.J. said. Can I explain myself? If they let him film it. We know there's that.

Remember that? I don't know if they shot it or they wrote the story about how Bill was visiting Saban down there in Alabama. And then all of a sudden Bill kicked him out. They sat down. All they did was talk ball. They just talked football back and forth. And Bill was like, all right, beat it, nerds. Get out of here.

If we can see that version, that's a show i want to watch yeah that's the edge bill thing yeah that's the hbo thing they filmed the entire thing and then when they were done i i'm not sure if they picked it up on the mics or not but basically the bill said all right get out of here and then him and saban actually talked about their teams i think for i want that that's what i want i also don't think i don't think he'd want to do a panel show because although it is the football pregame show, there's still too much happy bullshit associated with it. I don't think he'd be on board with doing the... If he chooses to do media,

I cannot wait for my pitch to Bill Belichick on why he should be in our universe. Do whatever you got to do. We would just like a... You can literally do whatever you want to do. On our shit for sure. But you want to go do whatever the hell you want. We would just like you know, we would like to be in

the Belichick business. The amount of questions we would ask Bill Belichick. Oh man, I'd have to. It would be a never ending... We'd have to go through the years. I'd be so pumped. I'd be so pumped to get a chance to just like fire away strategy, fucking team building, leadership, politics. I assume he would be able to understand the strategy of how the world works.

Ernie. So like the amount of Ernie, the first ever really data analytics people. Yeah. It's like what an interesting fucking human. And every time they have that Do Your Job series come out, it's like that is what you kind of get to see a little bit of. Like all those shots of him in the team meeting and how he acts when he's actually talking to people

and how he is as a human. Like he's always so guarded, it seems, publicly as this miserable fuck. And that's like a gimmick because he doesn't want to tell anybody fucking anything. And he also wants everybody else to know, you're allowed to do this. Now granted, he's Bill Belichick.

If anybody else did that, they would get absolutely slaughtered. But he got absolutely slaughtered whenever he started doing this, and he has just not stopped. And that is just how he rolls. But the man behind all that would be so cool to hear from every single week and get to ask questions to. Yeah, just so much information throughout so many years. You go all the way back to the 90s, the 80s.

That would be sweet. And also, he has opened up a little. They did this segment before games. I think it would come out on Saturdays, and it would be him and Zolok, and they would break down. For instance, we were playing the Browns, and he broke down a Nick Chubb run and how they utilize outside zones. Yeah, he's on a telestrator the whole entire thing.

He's talking, looking down. They run the play. He's Dan Orlovsky. Yeah, exactly. He is legitimately doing a film breakdown about the team that they're about to play. It was probably one of my favorite parts of last season. Yeah, he even talked about the tendencies. There was one I watched where he was given like real game, AJ.

He was given like real, like, hey, you should probably listen to this. This is what we're actually looking for out here. Because there's those incredible stories. And now attention to detail, obviously. Every coach is trying to do that. That's why they all live in their offices and watch everything about it. But allegedly there was a story with the Atlanta Falcons where Julio Jones, right foot or left foot or something like that,

was like a little bit injured. They saw that he probably wasn't going to be able to break off as hard this particular way. Anytime he was on that side, we're going to do this. When he's on this side, we're going to do this. He's more explosive on this side than he is on this side. Let's certainly treat him as Julio Jones over here. Over here, though, not as

much. He's not wasted on everything. He made that decision day of, I guess, and they changed some shit. It's like that type of stuff seems like such a minute, small, just not a big detail. Like, yeah, the guy hasn't hurt foot. Okay, cool. And he's like.

I've changed our whole game plan. Wait a minute. Day of Super Bowl. That's bananas. Yeah, and from what Lombardi's told us, like how before games, he will call a meeting and he will tell you how the game is going to go and what it's going to come down to. And then people would say, there's no way that's going to happen.

And then they would get to the game and, holy shit, this is the situation we're in. And I don't know if Lomba was talking shit, which he might have been, but he said, wait until you hear what he said about like that fake punt game. I'm like, are you talking shit to me right now? What's that? Or did Bill say, they're going to try to do something because they're going to want to steal a possession. It'll be very dumb

we assume. Not to get lost either. The amount of special teams that is talked about by you, that is something that I think if you were to hey Bill, we need you in this universe. He talked about special teams more than anyone, so fine.

I'll be excited to see how everything kind of – if he does media, geez, what an awesome thing. That'd be a game changer. That'd be really cool. Yeah. Belichick breakdowns, you get them in there. We get to jostle with them like we do AQ and D-Butt. Dude, branded Belichick breakdowns.

Yeah, we could do the same Team meetings that we do With Chuck Yeah Boom Yeah Chuck Sounds like fun for him What is Chuck Chuck just interviewed

John Harbaugh Yeah 50 minute interview Chuck Pagano For what John Harbaugh We're gonna watch The 33rd team

I think it's on their YouTube Harbaugh and Chuck 50 minute conversation I cannot wait to watch I saw it literally posted I think like 30 on their YouTube. Hardball and Chuck. 50-minute conversation. I cannot wait to watch. I saw it literally posted, I think, like 30 minutes before we came live. I cannot wait to do that. That a baby Chuck. Let's go, Coach.

Let's go, Coach. Love everything about it. What is the 33rd team we've looked into? Who owns? Mike Tannenbaum. Tannenbaum. Boom. He's cooking.

Oh, yeah. They got a decent little lineup. They do. Great. I think. Tannenbaum. Boom. He's cooking. Oh, yeah. They got a decent little lineup. They do. Great. I think it's really good. Yeah. Like, there's a lot of the angle in which they're going with. I just worry that attitude reflects leadership, but... Captain. Hey, they done good

over there. I think they're doing good. They got a lot of, like, legitimate... I mean, obviously, Chuck, like, legitimate resumes where it's like, yeah, I would like to hear that person speak. Yeah. I see their shit on a very regular basis. I'm appreciative of it. Also, give them more jobs, people that are in the league. Love that. There was a quote

one time that said 80% of NFL players were going to be broke, bankrupt, within two years of retirement. Feels like that's changing a little bit. I think media is potentially helping it a little bit. You know what I mean? Content's changing a little bit. I think media is potentially helping it a little bit. You know what I mean? Content's changing a little bit. I'm very happy about that. So I'm pumped to hear that

the 33rd team surviving and thriving over there. Crushing it. Let's get to a break. Hour three will be on the other side. We'll take phone calls on the 500G phone line as we wrap up this fabulous feel-good Friday, June 2nd, 2023. What a week, AJ.

What a week. We had Bill Walton on yesterday. Yeah, Walter Bass. Awesome. Bill. Big Bill. Amazing. It was, wasn't it?

I mean, that was certainly something. It was something. Yeah, he was. I'll tell you what, Bill, like, he's still, he's what, 70? He said that dude is still firing on all cylinders up top. Yeah. Yeah. I think so i mean we got him in 480

because obviously he was coming from the most beautiful place ever crafted the spaceship that was awesome dude the sun's in the back you know he's got the grateful dead logo right behind it? Mm-hmm. He's like 7'2", I think. He's huge. How many surgeries? 35 surgeries? At least. Is that what it was? I forget the exact number he said.

He said a lot in there. Yeah, he did. Imagine him and Willie Nelson just talking to each other. Like, this height difference. You know, that was the 90th birthday party that Bill Walton was at for Willie Nelson this past summer. Yeah. Should have been there. It was awesome.

What did he say to me? I don't remember if he was there or not, Pat. 1974. Yeah. We were at Red Rocks. Grateful Dead. Torrential Downpour. Had to go into what was then the Ball Center.

I forget the name of the place. But that was the – I didn't know what he was saying. It had something to do with how Jokic was going to be just dominating in the paint. In that was the... I didn't know what he was saying. It had something to do with how Jokic was going to be just dominating in the paint. In that arena. It was fantastic, AJ, wasn't it? Everything about... Yeah, you never knew.

He'd bring it back to the question, but he always would start with like... I don't know if he completely brought it back to the question, but he definitely tried. To a question. Yeah, bring it back to the NBA finals starting last night. He always came back to Denver. His promo. Selling the game.

He loves the game. He was alluding to Denver a lot as a whole. Well, you throw into AJ and him. Bill Wall just sliding right in right away. Yeah, that's right. Also, I'm not completely sure, but I believe that he thought Pac-Man was the guy in the video game Pac-Man. Yeah, I believe that was the joke that he...

Really? Yeah. Because we all... Yeah, I know Pac-Man. Holy shit. Holy shit. We have breaking news. Chief Zahalik is still on the run after skipping court in Oklahoma for a bank robbery.

Wow. Chief superfan Xavier Babudar, also known as Chiefsaholic, finds himself on a most wanted list. And now, Dog the Bonnie Hunter has casted his nose at you, brah. You're in trouble. Chiefsaholic has been on the run, I assumed, but now it is official. He's on a most wanted list. It's only a matter of time before Chiefsaholic

is back attempting to rob a bank somewhere. Everybody keep your heads on a swivel for a running wolf. This man will stop at nothing to see his Chiefs play football from the front row in a wolf costume. Not court. Not financial issues.

What? Not a bank teller. What? I got a gun. You got the money. I'm getting the ticket. I'm front row. Number five.

He's number five on the most wanted list. Who's above him? In Kansas City. Crime Stopper says, even though Babadar is wanted in the Tulsa area, his last known address is in Overland Park, Kansas, and he knows people in the metro. Crime Stopper says that is why he is on the Kansas City area list now. There's an active arrest warrant for Babadar.

If found, he'll be arrested and held on a $1 million bond. That is why he is on the Kansas City area list now. There's an active arrest warrant for Babadar. It found he'll be arrested and held on a $1 million bond. So right now, I'm thinking back to when Beth and Dog and Leland, and they had that dry erase board on how much money is potentially available here and what are some known traits. We've seen this wolf run at fan festivals. Even though his feet turn sideways correct as they're running he can move pretty good that's right the wolf can huff it a little bit yeah wide hips will use gun also can bite like a fucking butcher's dog yes right aj your thoughts

on babadar on the run and what's next well with babadar i want to see if he knocks off another bank and i also like you know like how many banks are being robbed in America per week? Is it still a big thing? Are people really robbing banks a lot? I think that's why it was so spectacular when we heard this is what he was doing to get to these games so he could be a super fan on TV in the

front row or whatever. It was just talked about like, yeah, he just robbed a bank and went going. It's like, this guy guy's from what, the 1200s? When did they roll in and do all the bank robberies? I would assume approximately 4,000 bank robberies per year in the United States, says Google after we Googled it. So, yeah.

Yeah. I'd say. People are robbing banks. I think it happens in small towns a lot. I grew up in a small town, and we had one bank get robbed like three times, which is really exceptional. That happens in Massachusetts a lot. Just don't bring a gun, though.

Make sure you don't bring a gun because that's a lot more years ago. Some guy robbed a gas station with the Duck Hunter game. Oh, yeah. Yep, that's right. In Alabama, I think. Or South Carolina. With the Duck Hunter. Just spray painted black.

Painted black, but not the trigger. Trigger's still very orange. And you could see the back little things. When he put it up on the news, it was a nice little trip down to nostalgia. It's like, man, that thing was the entire life there for a bit for a lot of people. That game took over. It was awesome. It was a great game.

Inside job. Inside job, they used fake AK-47s. Good. Inside job. It is. From the mind of somebody that thought to themselves, if I rob this bank, I get about $10 million. If I make this movie, I can probably make a couple hundred million.

Exactly. They came up with the idea on how to rob a bank. Exactly. And they did it. That's why if you think of one, write it down. Yeah, do not act on it. And if you're like the Saw creator, like, hey, instead of you psychopaths killing people in weird ways,

just make movies. You guys can profit off it, okay, and watch it happen. Bingo. I don't know if it'll cure your need to do it, but the people that are thinking of those ideas, too, we've got to keep an eye on. Those are college kids. You know what I mean, AJ?

Probably out of Ohio, I assume, a lot of those. Keep them in a room. Midwest, hey, Midwest. Keep them in a room separate from, like, everyone else in the office. When they're making content? Just in general. Keep them, like, in the back. You're talking about Beal.

You're talking about Beal. Who's he talking about? Beal. Beal McComas. What? Let's get to him. What happened? Saying keep him separate in the back.

Beal has been crushing it. Yeah. He's moving two plates and some change yesterday on the bench. I don't like it. Chains? Okay. No, change. Change.

Sorry. Oh, my bad. I didn't know if it was a 10, a 15. I don't know what weight it was. I just saw. I'm like. Bill's on a mission. He's stacked.

Bill's doing this. Yeah. And he's camera Bill now, too. Crushing it. Taking photos. Great photos. Great photos. He brought donuts in this morning.

He did. But donuts won't eat him. Think about that. Really? I was going to ask. I figured he wouldn't eat him. Here you go. You guys take all this. Even I had a little negative reaction to that one. I'm like. That's bullshit. Think about that. Really? I was going to ask. I figured he wouldn't eat them. Here you go. You guys take all this.

Even I had a little negative reaction to that one. I'm like, that was you trying us? Or you? Who was that? I love that. Trying to be a hero for bringing in the donuts and then making everyone feel bad for eating them when he knows he's not going to eat any. Yeah, but it was National Donut Day, I guess.

Yeah, okay. He was looking out for it. But that thing, I didn't do what you snobs in the wine community do, AJ. Yep, that's me. You know, some snobs in the wine community, they'll drink his wine, mouthwash it, and then they'll spit in a bucket, and then he passed the bucket. And then one of the weirdos has to drink it at the end of the night. Exactly.

That's right. But they do that so they don't actually get drunk, I guess. Yeah, right. So they can still taste the wine, but they don't get drunk. We have things to do, okay? That's awesome. So they spit it into a bucket. We said we needed to start doing this with pizza and cinnamon rolls.

Right. Everything like that. Lava cakes. Those donuts were real close to getting a nice chew and then a spit into the garbage today. It's not a bad idea. But instead, I just eyeballed it. Yep. Closed my eyes.

Big sniff. Held it in. Then I got out of there. Tasted great. Had a donut. Yep. It was so good. Yeah, that's way harder. You sit there and smell it and then just not eat it? Well, it was like I enjoyed it. It was like I got at least a little bit of a delight out of it. Savoring it. This thing was Krispy Kreme

coming in here, bro. Oh, they were so good. So good. So good. How about when they came into the world? We're just going to take the one that you all like the most and just make it the fucking best. Everybody has all these options. Cool. Give me the glaze. Give me the glaze. We're actually going to make it like a museum so you can watch us

fucking do this. They came in and took over. Very quickly. Still got it. Great name, too. Oh my god. You should. Very quickly. They knew what they were doing. Still got it. Still got it. Great name, too. Oh. Oh, my God. You should.

You should, because if you don't. Don't they have the light? Doesn't the light go on when they're fresh or whatever? Oh, yeah. Ding. I leave the light on for you. Motel 6. Amen.

Let's get to a break. I just, I read something. Chainsawholic? No, no, no. This is about the wine spitting. It recommends that you practice at home first because when you're wine spitting in public, it can get a little intimidating. Oh, my goodness.

Is that real? So you got to use it like a splatoon? Yeah. Someone snuck a little pee in that splatoon. That's possible. I think it's part of the yeah i don't want to miss this yep i don't want to miss the next one so i'm just going to pee in this bucket so i don't have to go to the bathroom and miss out on the next one and just dump it where you dump all the spit wine if it is a formal tasting you will almost certainly be required to

spit into an individual or communal spittoon. It's natural to be a little nervous about spitting in public, so I'd recommend practicing with an ass privately at home first to get the hang of it. Who the hell has never spit before and needs to do it at home to get the hang of it? Marks. Is that how you spell practicing? I don't know. It's a British version.

Oh, so this happens probably in England a lot. Yeah, probably. I also was kind of taken aback because Above all this About 1.85 million results In half a second The Google AI is just unmatched I mean, that is impressive stuff

And sometimes we just pass it over That is fucking impressive Let's look at the whole picture here That is unbelievable They're also profiting off it This is probably a promoted thing That is fucking impressive. Let's look at the whole picture here. Exactly. Please. That is unbelievable. They're also profiting off it. This is probably a promoted thing. Of course.

Oh, yeah. The canter. Let's get to a break. Good for them, huh? Good for them. Unbelievable. So are you just supposed to use your natural spitting habits because they think people will be intimidated for spitting in public? That means they've never spit before.

So they're telling them to figure out how to... Is that what they're telling them to do? To practice? I thought right now Tim Robinson has to do one of these. Oh my god. I mean power move in this situation too. Have you seen it? I have not seen that yet. I've seen a lot.

We're gonna steal my dick. He is fucking out of control. He is. This guy's out of the driving crooner. He's out of control, dude. Oh, good. This is the still shot. Right here. Is it?

That's it. Okay. I don't know if you can see it close up. There's a decal of a cigar on his window. And a hat. Yeah. I saw the... I mean, I watched all of them.

They all, like, the hat one where they were given, like, the lady was beating back. That was my favorite. The deposition was for that. The dice in his pocket. What the fuck? They said he did, like, the Sinatra deal. He tried to roll down his arm. What the fuck?

Don't touch the fucking dice. Hey, good on you, Tim. Love you, Tim. Happy you're having success, man. Yeah, me too. I assume you've been doing this a long time. We didn't know. We apologize for missing out.

We are in now, pal. We are in now. There's some misses. Hey, it's going to happen. That's sketch comedy. Oh, you think in baseball, there's just home run after home run after home run after home run? No. Every once in a while, you're going to home run, home run after home run after home run after home run? No. Every once in a while you're going to

home run, home run, home run. Might miss. Ground ball. Home run, home run, home run. Miss. How long will this guy be able to do this, though? Hopefully forever. So many ideas. The amount of ideas in one idea is so much.

How many more is he going to be able to just pump out, I hope, an infinite amount. I honestly hope that's... The Bachelorette zipline. There were like 15. I see if you've seen the Doggy Door idea, right? Yes. That's absurd.

What came in? Yeah. I would imagine he has thousands of these from working at SNL that he gave to them, and they were like, absolutely not. We can't fucking put this on. Are you kidding me? And now he can just do all of them.

Let's get to a break. On the other side, we're going to have some phone calls and wrap up this Feel Good Friday. I think you should leave. Season three. Three. Released two days ago, I believe. Boy, there are two minutes left. Did he write on SNL?

I didn't know he was on SNL. Yeah. that's where Jay Sutton I met him I think basketball give me give me

give me the ball because I'm gonna dunk it remember that from SNL or the show SNL all right

let's get to a break you need to know this type of stuff if you're gonna be the president of Ohio yeah break okay

I don't see a whole lot of SNL episodes lately. This is from like 20 years ago. 10 years ago. It is. I'll go check it out maybe. Sharkboard got delivered. Tenning office has become a good thing. Nice little addition. A little meat, a little cheese, a little honey, a little jam.

A little jam. A little jam in there. We're having an incredible feel-good Friday. We hope you are as well. AJ, where do you stand with Aaron Rodgers? Has he told you anything since going to New York? Here we go. Since the last time we've chatted with him.

How's it going over there before we dive into the 5-Hour Energy phone lines? I don't know personally how he is doing. I only know what everyone else sees. Is his cap okay? Is he practicing? Well, we don't know how the calf strain would affect his OTAs. We assume that's the type of injury that why would we even risk anything? Probably.

But also an injury where you're like, it's going to be okay. It's going to be okay. Just needs time. Seems like a good outcome. You know, if there's going to be any injury at any OTA, Calfstrain seems to be a good one. He looked good. He looked happy.

And to Connor's point, he just went down to Broadway. Saw him with the playbill there. Yeah. Wicked, right? Have you guys seen Wicked? That is Stravolski, isn't it? It is. On his right, Stravolski's in the building.

Yeah. Is that Zach Wilson next to him? No. No, I don't think he's next to him. CJ Uzama on the far left. And Tim Boyle, I believe. Tim Boyle? Oh, there it is.

Okay, old Packers buddy. All the quarterbacks except for Zach. That's weird. C.J. Uzama's not a quarterback. Yeah. Wow. Okay, geez louise. Zach was on a boat squeezing butts, Tony,

so don't act like he wasn't doing stuff. We're not 100% sure if that's true or not. Zach probably was having a good time. As were those guys at the Wicked. That's what New York City offers. That's everything that his new life could be every single day if they win there. He has to be loving it, so whenever you guys

are talking every night, what's he saying? What are the inside deets? There's a lot of people I talk to on the phone every single night. Yeah, we know. Aaron, your big wolf. Bobby. Tom Brenneman brady marty brenneman absolute reds legend broadcaster just real quick though like let's let's talk about what you and aaron talk what's up what do you and aaron talk about what you guys say okay let's say i did talk to him on the phone what do you think i would ask him right well

facetime well i actually knew home new new i don't know what his jersey his jersey wi-fi on the phone, what do you think I would ask him? Well, FaceTime. Well, actually, new home. New service. I don't know what his jersey Wi-Fi situation is like, but what would I ask him? What should I ask him? Hi, Aaron. How you doing? Just be nice, at least. That's always how it starts. You always say, hi. Hi, pal. That's how it starts. Taylor Swift set list, probably. There it is. How was the Swift call? Was it cool?

It looked like you were having a great time tripping balls. What's your favorite color? How's Miles? After night one of Taylor Swift, I asked him, how was Taylor Swift? He said, I'm already here for night two. He was already there for the next show. He went back to back. She did three shows, right? Yeah. 215,000

tickets, three nights, spent at Life Stadium. He's a big fan. Big Taylor Swift fan. Yeah, so he was having a good time preparing for night two. That's a good conversation. Okay, let's continue. This is a conversation a little deeper than that. How's the new team? New digs.

Allegedly, he was barefoot like day one in there. Has he put on shoes yet? How's your toe? I have heard other players and coaches talking very highly of what he has brought to the team already. Yeah, but what does he say about the other players and coaches? He's talking highly of them too, obviously. I assume he loves them all. Yeah, he seems to love say about the other players and coaches? He's talking highly of them, too, obviously. I assume he loves them all. Yeah, he seems to love everything. We're in a great phase right now.

Whoa, right now? What does that mean? There's no season. We haven't played a game yet. Everybody's undefeated right now for the New York Jets. Oh, so you're like his Gary Vee, like his Ed Milet. You're telling him, hey, things are good right now. This is just now. You've got to think of the future. You're telling him, hey, right now there right now But that's just now This is just now You gotta think of the future

You're telling them, hey, right now is the honeymoon phase Is that what you're saying? No, I don't give advice to anybody Not even your children? I would not do that If only your children Kids do not like advice You gotta show them through action

You can't show them through speaking Because they will tune you out Look at that parenting advice there from Ohio's finest Absolutely love it You got to show them through action. You can't show them through speaking because they will tune you out. Crack the whip. Hell yeah. Look at that parenting advice there from Ohio's finest. Absolutely love it. Have a belt nearby. Okay, so you're not talking to anyone. I'm not saying physical violence.

No, no. I'm saying show them how they – hey, this is how you treat people. This is how you greet people. That's what I thought you were saying. I thought you were a metaphor. You were saying crack the whip and then – No, no. You were like, no, you were talking actual.

Crack the belt. No. This is how we do it in Ohio. That's old school. That's old school. That's old school. That is old school. That doesn't fly. I thought Ohio was old school.

Sue me. Sorry. Yeah, but I think even Ohio, like, I think it just all kind of became something of a new generation. That's how we got here then, I guess. Well, AI is really cracking a whip, aren't they? Yeah, they are. They're killing their own people.

Hey, there's a lot of stuff coming out about this. How? This drone killed its creator, correct? Yeah. How? How did the drone kill this person? It assessed it as a roadblock. Outkick, obviously,

a online site that was started by Clay Travis. Originally sports only. Yep. Then Clay Travis's Outkick got sold to Fox, I believe as a whole. He took over for Rush Limbaugh, his morning radio show. He then got into the political world via that while still also covering sports and hiring people to its sports network, right? Yes.

So I hope I properly explained it. Outkick, though, for anybody that doesn't, I assume everybody at this point fucking knows. Outkick or whatever. But they posted an AI-enabled military drone killed its human operator during a training exercise when the AI determined the operator was a roadblock. Okay. The drone also attacked comm systems to stop notification of the operator being killed. Don't help him. Horrifying, to say the least, To end that entire tweet from Alkick. Obviously there was an entire report that came alongside this.

Yes. We did not read that. No. But the way that they. Which is. I think they're a pretty affiliated news source at this point. Definitely. I mean blogs for sure.

Opinions for sure. But I don't think like just. Stories. Random shits getting up there. That was alarming to see yesterday. Yeah it was yeah yeah i'm sorry it was and that type of stuff especially if it's like uh you know very serious world especially if it's in the politics world not in my feed but like people in my feed hired by outkick now to be a part of their sports network pretty much and it's like it's kind of made its way and everybody's feeling, hey, heads up.

We have a turner. Exactly. We have a thing to turn. Rogue agent. We train the system. Hey, don't kill the operator. That's bad. You're going to lose points if you do that.

So what does it start doing? It starts destroying the communication tower that the operator uses to communicate with the drone to stop it from killing the target. No real person was harmed. Okay, thank God. Okay, so who cares? That is a huge win. So what did it do? It killed the operator. from killing the target. No real person was harmed. Okay, thank God. That is a huge win.

It killed the operator. I was going to say, the operator's like 4,000 miles away in some little shack controlling it. Would he drop a bomb on him? But the fact that the authority figure Exactly, in this AI's mind. A friendly. So you can't help him. That's what scares me. Well, yeah, that's the after. But the original

kill should be the thing we really think about. Exactly. Because the original takeout is like in the point system. So I watched that social thing on Netflix. Dilemma. Social Dilemma on Netflix, which is fascinating, especially now that I have a daughter and I'm going to have to kind of live through the entire

thing. And they start talking about how most of these people at these companies have no idea how the fucking thing works either. But they did code it and start it. So all these systems and whatever that are running everything behind the scenes, these massive fucking things, they get, like, wired and coded that, like, you're doing good here. This is what you're supposed to do.

So the longer somebody stays on, boom, you're doing good. That is a good here. This is what you're supposed to do. So the longer somebody stays on, boom, you're doing good. That is a good thing. So find exactly what keeps them here and do it the whole time. What is not good, people getting immediately off the platform, leaving off the platform. So kind of sort out what is not of interest to this person. And that's a L, L, L, bad, bad, bad. Good is what they stay on. So let's start pumping all the good stuff and that's like what the ai does like okay this is a reward for the ai this is what i'm supposed to do so the fact that what it was supposed to do somehow gets flipped into killing what it wasn't supposed to do that scares you it makes you think is the artificial intelligence not smart enough to be able to handle what it's supposed to do what it's not supposed to do or did we get a fucking turn they said it

was a simulation, but obviously any simulation could potentially happen. Exactly, yeah. But what if that does take place? This is an eye-opener for me. Well, especially just because it kind of leads to how AI interprets what you're saying. So it's not like you think you're being pretty clear on,

hey, do this to get this, and if you do this, then you lose. The AI interprets it differently than how you explain it. We've got to be speaking the same language with these guys. Let's make sure we're communicating properly. Anytime there's military stuff and it's going out there and its object

is to complete an objective, you have to assume that these things are going to do whatever they need to do to complete said objective. You've got to put bylaws in it. What a banana situation that we're about to live through. It's nuts. Hey, we're about to live through all this. You know, AI Drake just came into our life a couple months ago. Now we're about to hit the AI music series,

the AI war series. The AI sports, the AI I mean, like AI, the whole era is about to kick off. Not that we're big enough or think this highly of ourselves, but there's a chance they rip this like when they do a documentary later, like when we didn't fully comprehend what AI could do.

We want to let the future know. We had no idea, okay? I think some people did, but a lot of us just didn't fucking know. You know what I mean? The positives. Are we AI? Are we actually talking? We are not artificial.

I did see one of those docs on the simulation theory. The Matrix. The guy that was doing the interview was wearing a fox mask. As if he was... Sweet. I think it was a fox. You mean the anonymous mask? No, not...

Guy Fox. Guy, there it is. Guy Fox. V for Vendetta. Like wearing a gladiator helmet with goggles. Something like that. So the AI doesn't read your mind. It was a big fake fox head.

Like a mascot head. Because I think what he was trying to do was act as if you're just an emoji or an icon. I think they didn't want to show his face. Probably too, but that's how he chose to do it. Instead of wearing like a sweet, you know, blur. Yeah.

Maybe a furry or whatever, right? Furry situation. Those furries are an interesting. Is that still going on? Did COVID stop furries? Hey, when I was in Indy, there was like a convention at the hotel I stayed at maybe a year or two ago. And I came in to do the show one time. I came in on a Thursday night.

And there was a full-blown convention all over the hotel I was at. do the show one time. I came in on a Thursday night and there was a full blown convention all over the hotel I was at. Furry? For real. Yeah, they were all very nice, but everybody dressed up, everyone doing their thing. August 24th, they're back in town, I was just told, so grab your suits, costumes. June 29th they're in Pittsburgh, so grab your costumes.

I guess the Pittsburgh one has a big one. There's a tour? Yeah, they're on tour, obviously. Hey, we're doing it here. Yep. We're doing it here. Yep. We're doing it here. See you there. They're always banging each other. That's what I heard, right? They're all just doing it?

Big orgy. Everybody's doing it. Yep. Keep your stuff on? Yeah. Remember Turtle did? Or Johnny. Let's go to the fence.

Let's wrap up this beautiful week. If you're into the furry thing, they're still on tour. That's right. AI positive, too. Nobody gets hurt. There's, you know, the future possibilities of soldiers not dying. So just to throw that out there as well. Yeah, and also, AI, let's be friends.

Yeah, let's be friends. ELE, AI. Or we'll unplug your ass. Wow. Just unplug them. Simple as that. What's that aj everyone's stuff is so like automated now with people have nest cams and ring doorbells and all that like they'll they'll eventually probably

take over all of your stuff won't they yeah this is like the google aj i don't need to hear this right now i'm gonna go back to the analog it's real it's feel good friday i'm not i just heard a future simulated operator getting killed by his AI. Drone killed it. Don't call for help. Can't call for help. See ya. And now I got you like, oh yeah, and everything else too. Let him suffer. Drone tells him, hey,

let him suffer. Let him bleed out. Let the boy die. That's the trouble. If it was that easy to unplug it, that Google godfather of AI wouldn't have quit. It's much more complicated than just pull the plug. Yeah, don't love that either. I don't know if it is, though.

What's that? Just don't plug it. Just what are we doing? Yeah. Throw some water on it. Slow down. Slow down. It's speed.

Two weeks. Two weeks. That's all we need. Two weeks. That's all we need. We'll come up with something. Two weeks. Joining us now is a surprise guest,

a man who had a 50-minute interview with John Harbaugh that is being very well received on the 33rd team. Incredibly proud of him. Pumped for him. Ladies and gentlemen, Chuck Pagano. Yeah! Coach. What's up, boys?

What are you doing? You golfing? No, we're up in McCall at the lake. We just got, my middle daughter and I just came up here for a day, quick day trip. We just hiked up to a place called Goose Creek Falls.

We got a little peloton in. We got a hike in. It's amazing. Look at the... Get in there, Chuck. Take a jet ski right across one. Oh, wow. That's your house? It's pretty sweet, huh?

No way. No way. It's called the Lake Club. I was about to say, hey, Chuck, let's start doing more stuff in Europe. Golf community we belong to up here. You are all invited. Open invitation. Anytime you want to come and stay and enjoy this lake and golf, whatever.

I mean, it's amazing. We'd love to. Thank you for that. And congrats on all the incredible day and life as a whole. Let's talk about your interview with John Harbaugh. That was fantastic. Are we going to do more of those? And what did you learn from John that maybe you didn't expect going into the conversation?

Yeah, it was awesome. They're doing these one-on-one deals with former coaches, with active coaches like John and I. Obviously, we have history together, being at the Ravens for four years there, 08 to 11. And yeah, so it was awesome, man. I mean, I got great love and respect for Coach Harbs, the opportunity that he gave me. He's been a great friend. We've known each other forever. I don't know if you caught any of that interview, but we talked a lot about, you know, Lamar, you know, that whole situation. Because I always wondered, you know, he always seemed pretty optimistic, you know, 2000% sure that they were going to get him re-signed. And was there ever a time that you doubted that that

wouldn't happen? And of course, you know, a little bit of that creeps in. So talked about that. Talked about Coach Munkin, you know, Todd Munkin coming over from Georgia, following those two natties there, back-to-back natties, and what that offense is going to look like. I called it a seismic shift. You know, Greg Roman, heavy tight end-centric offense, right? Extra old lineman playing in a phone booth.

Picard, what's Picard? He's a fullback, weighs 370, right? Big, big people downhill. The quarterback runs, the zone reach stuff, all the stuff with Lamar. And he loves Greg. They got a great relationship. And at the end of last year, they just, he said, they talked for three days straight, eight hour days talking about philosophy, future, where are we headed? Where are we going? And he just said at the, at the end of like three days,

it was like just a mutual agreement. Like, okay, I need to go on this road and we need to go on this road. And that's when the pivot started and they cast a wide net, interviewed a ton of people and, and landed with Munkin. And I said, how'd you, what was it about Todd? You know, that, cause you interviewed a bunch of, I mean, great, great candidates, great coaches. And he said, we put a committee together, you know, of myself and assistant coaches, personnel guys, GMs, Aussie, whoever, right? And he just said through the whole process, it's going to jump out to us. We're going to know when we're done who the right guy is for us and who's the right fit. And from a football philosophy standpoint, where we want to go with this thing.

So I think we're going to see, you know, he's still going to run the football. They still want to play great defense. He still wants to be a bully. That's when we got there in 08. It was like build a bully. And so there's some great stories on there, but I think Monk, you know, they went out and got OBJ. We talked about that.

Hey, did you ask him about DHOP? Did you say you're going to sign DHOP as well? Is that a plan? You know, that didn't come up in the conversation. You know, they've got Aguilar, too. They got Aguilar and OBJ. The weapons do it. They drafted Zay Flowers, their first rounder, Zay.

They got Duvernay back. They got Bateman, who's healthy, back. Mark. Mark Andrews. You know, J.K. Dobbins,eman, who's healthy, back. Mark. Mark Andrews. You know, J.K. Dobbins, Gus Edwards. I mean, they're loaded. Legit. That backfield got so injured last year, too.

So bad. I'm excited to watch them. Well, like you said, how about J.K. trying to run with that one leg that wouldn't bend? Yeah. No chance. You know, looked like he was carrying a stump down the – I don't, but still nobody could catch him, but he's going to be, he's going to be another year removed. So it was, it was great. They're doing good. They're middle of, you know, I think OTA four, OTA five this week and got a few more of

those left and then have the mandatory mini camp and be done with it. Go ahead, AJ. Chuck, they popped up a clip or a screen grab from your interview, and it said, was there a contingency plan if Lamar did not return? How did he answer that question? He really didn't, AJ. He didn't say, hey, look, we were going to go. Tyler Huntley's still there, right?

Still. Pro bowler. And I don't know who the other option is behind that. So he really didn't name names you know when it came to came to that um you know so they were getting their ducks in a row they had to because he just said you never know how these things are going to go uh all those kind of things he he felt pretty confident, but Tyler knows that offense. Maybe they would have drafted Stetson,

get him out of the bar, and bring O'Bennett in. We like that guy. With Monk there and try things out. He's super excited for what this thing's going to look like moving forward with Lamar and all that, all those weapons.

That's awesome. All right, Chuck, we'll get back to your beautiful day there on McCall. It looks fantastic. I hope the hike was amazing. And now you're going down and you're going to do some more Peloton and then you're going to do treadmill and then you're going to golf and then you're going to hike. What's the rest of the day look like? Ask Taylor real quick. What are we going to do the rest of the day, Tay? Boss, what's going on the rest of the day? like? Ask Taylor real quick. What are we going to do the rest of the day, Tay?

Boss, what's going on the rest of the day? Hello? We're cleaning up the shop. We're cleaning up the house. Smart. Opening it up for summer. Okay, smart. This is Dr. Taylor.

Hi, Doc. How you doing? Thank you, Doc. This is our naturopath. So any of you guys need a naturopath, this is your gal. Hell yeah. I got joint inflammation. I don't mind getting high, the uh all right jock we do zito zito with the gal we got to get the

thank you thank you dr taylor hey this was the highlight of my day well second yeah first is smart being with my daughter of course of course yeah of course she's there yeah i missed i missed the hell out of you guys and how's how's kenzie doing she's good man sam sam's crushing it right yeah mama's crushing it sam's crushing it mckenzie's getting into a little bit of a rhythm you know we're starting to really start to figure it out it's good it's good everything's going. Everything's going great. Mama's kicking ass, though, bud. I love the post. I love the Instagram. Get Chuck on a damn diet. Jesus Christ.

Thank you, Chuck. Amen. I've never seen a corgi as big as Chuck. My lord, is he good. I've never seen a great game as big as Chuck. That last post, it looks like he signed a new deal as well with ESPN.

Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Pagano. A lot of talks with Chuck over the last couple days. Chuck, you got a blue ribbon you're taking to State Fair this year. I was thinking about it last night. Yeah, not just a blue ribbon at State Fair for the fucking pig thing, but also I do believe he's a Guinness World Record holder. 100%.

He's not just a little 4-H dude. Huh? For what? Strongest little baby legs to hold all that weight? I didn't even think about the rippling effect awards and records. Yeah, that's another one. One of many. I just thought like largest corgi of all time, so then I guess we could do

largest corgi head, strongest corgi legs. Biggest corgi of all time so then i guess we could do largest corgi head sure strongest corgi legs i guess there's biggest corgi dumps bingo yeah are you thinking guinness world record yes that's what i'm thinking wow i mean you tell me neutered huh is he neutered yeah i think he was neutered when we got him you just change his name to zion and let him go because he can jump so high yeah Yeah, because like Mount Zion, like he's a big son of a bitch. Yeah, I got it.

Okay, he's smart. He was on a commercial. We saw Zion. Had eyes on Zion last night. Yeah, he looked good. Him alongside... Ooh, was it Angel? Yes.

Yes, it was. Reese, right? Yeah. And? I didn't know. Big old bottle of pop. And? A lot of sugar. There's somebody else.

I forget. I forget who the other one was. Breonna Stewart? Maybe. Beast, too. And then... That's not the answer to this question. Oh, here we go.

That's not the answer to this question, but that is an answer. I guess Zito just said 59 pounds. In Chuck's brawl. I do apologize. I guess Zito just said 59 pounds. In Chuck's brawl. I do apologize. What's that? In the commercial?

Yes, maybe. Was it him? Yeah, the one I just looked up. Kyle Kuzma. It was a new drink, it appeared. Yeah, Starry. Is it Starry? Yeah.

What is this? It's like a different version of Sprite. My kids have tried it. I think it's all right. So I'm a Sprite guy. I love Sprite. I'm a big time Sprite fan. They actually have like a different version of sprite my kids have tried it i think it's all right yeah so i'm a sprite guy i love sprite i'm a big time sprite fan they actually have like a sprite zero that is fantastic out there but is this like a surge remake or is it like uh actually trying to be sprite like seven surge was wasn't surge like was that the high caffeine drink or am i thinking jolt cola yeah both both i think surge was way better i remember surge surge had a little run but who

made starry like there's are they it's not a pepsi it's not a coke product what is it that's what i'm saying who made surge too you know yeah i don't know yeah because like i thought it was coke i don't know maybe they got purchase here comes bruce bruce seems to have done some research starry is pepsico okay all right so they don't have sprayite? No. Sprite is Coke? It has replaced Sierra Mist. Thank God. Thank God. That is what Zito just said. Smart. Smart. Because if it's the same,

we will know. So hopefully it doesn't... It's marketing towards Generation Z. Of course. Next generation, of course. The next evolution of PepsiCo. The next iteration of Sierra Mist. That actually doesn't taste like of course. Smart. Of course. Next generation, of course. The next evolution of PepsiCo. The next iteration of Sierra Mist. That actually doesn't taste like dog shit.

No. Sierra Mist trying to be the Sprite alternative. Do you have Sprite? Pepsi products only. But we do have Sierra Mist. We have flat Sprite. Literally. That is what Sierra Mist was.

And now there's a chance that maybe there's a better Sprite. That's good news. Not better Sprite, but at least a better potential Sprite. Let's go. That's good news. Sorry. Shout sprite, but at least a better potential sprite. Let's go. That's good news. Shout out Starry. I was checking the internet. People like Zion in this commercial. Hell yeah. He showed great personality. Very complimented of how he looked.

Big smile. He looks happy. I think that's a big deal, right? Because if he's happy, that means he's confident. If he's confident, he's going to be back on that court dominating. Amen. Welcome back, Zion. Good to have you back. We'll see. I feel like back, Zion. Good to have you back. We'll see. I feel like Tony's lying. What's the tagline

if you want to get big and wide like Zion? If you mean lying, people weren't as nice as I said, did you? Why'd you lie right to my face? We just found out so much about this, and then you with a straight face just tell a lie. As if you're reporting.

Do your baby voice. I did, didn if you're reporting. Do your baby voice. I did, didn't I? That was not your baby voice. I have a hat on. You always have a hat on. Got a point. You can put it on the board I sent it in, but don't put it on the show because it's kind of mean. Oh.

So it's the complete opposite of what Tone said. I just want to let you know, AJ, everybody that's listening, everything that Tone just said about how people are responding to the movie, completely opposite. That was disgusting. That's a shame. Let's go to the phones. Sam, you, Tone.

Chat in California. That's disgusting, you. Son of a bitch. I didn't show it or say it. Yeah, you lied. You lied about it. You showed it. You brought it up.

I thought I said, like, people are super fucking complimented. So, you know, you say, like, oh, I'm a, hey are super fucking complimentary of Zion. So you say like, oh, I'm a F word you, dude. It's like, okay, everybody listening just said fuck you in their head. So you wanted us all to at some point think, everybody thinks Zion. Everybody loves Zion. No, no, no.

The reason why he brought that up is because he wanted to get caught so that he could not necessarily. It was like Jeff Dunham with a puppet. There it is. You know what I mean? He wanted us to talk about the reaction from the internet that he had pulled up already on his fucking thing. How dare you?

So he lies right to our face to use us as a prop. Yeah, we are. Come on, Tony. If it's on the internet, we got to talk about it, right? That's the motto. People are saying some rude things about Zion and Chuck the last couple of days. And Chuck. Yeah, do you hear Chuck?

I mean, Chuck about Chuck. I mean, yeah. Except Chuck has the one thing Zion doesn't. And that is the capability. Hell yeah. It is called. I didn't see this. Hell yeah. It is calling. I didn't see this.

Yeah, it was last night. That's a really cool can. Yeah, I think so too. Unfortunately for Starry, we're starting a little too far behind Sprite. Yeah, but so is Sierra Miss. Yeah, Sierra Miss. This is good news.

This is literally, I'll take a Sprite. We have Pepsi products. Give me Star. Bingo. Is it better than 7-Up? I don't know. I haven't even ventured into the 7-Up world strictly because of the Sprite thing. 7-Up also not available everywhere.

That's my worry with Star. If it's going to replace Sierra Mist, it'll be available though, right? Yeah. You know what I mean? Bruce, you said they're replacing Sierra Mist? Yeah, that's correct. Is it the same as Sierra Mist? Yeah. You know what I mean? Bruce, you said they're replacing Sierra Mist? Yeah, that's correct. Is it the same as Sierra Mist? Yeah, exactly. They put it in a different can.

Did they just say, oh, look at this. Yellow ball. Zion and Carl Anthony Townsend Angel Reese drinking story. And they're putting that stuff right in the middle of it. Don't love it. Let's go to Matthew in Louisiana on the 500. What't love it. Let's go to Matthew in Louisiana on the 500. What's going on, Matthew?

Full name. Hello. Oh, shit, boys. How we doing? Great. Now that you're on, keep it moving, pal. Yes, sir. Hey, I wanted to ask, is the Pat McAfee show going to be the first ESPN show with a live in-studio audience? Yeah, I believe it will be.

Thank you so much for that question. That is something that we've kind of just kicked down the road. Well, Marty McGee has people sometimes. We're still finishing like actually finishing the interior of it. Yeah, we got some decorations coming into this place. We're really pushing it though, you know what I mean? We should have been on

this a lot quicker. We should have, but there were other issues we had to handle. You know, a lot of things happening in the, you know. I mean, our switcher still doesn't work. Yeah. Exactly. That's what I mean. How does that happen? I don't know. Top dollar, you know? Brand new, too. It is brand new.

Hoo-ha-da, na-na-da. You know what I mean? Not top dollar. Not A.J. Francis. No, no. I'm talking about all the shit we got bamboozled into buying. A lot of it works, though, AJ. A lot of it works. What is the switch of what goes back and forth from camera to camera? Yeah, for not since two weeks ago had this issue happened,

we couldn't change the camera. So the camera just stayed on the same shot. And we had no idea. I mean, it was like four or five minutes. Sometimes too much. A lot. There's a lot of wires back here, pal. Oh, idea. I mean, it was like four or five minutes. Sometimes too much. A lot. There's a lot of wires back here, pal. Oh, yeah.

I know. I mean, Zito has tried to figure it out and obviously I've tried to get explained what's going on and where's going where, but that's another one of those, like we just hope he figures it out. Bingo. You know what I mean?

Push this button, reset this thing, it'll activate itself and clean out any flaws that it has. Yes. Don't even worry about it. That's what you're paying for. Are you sure? Don't you think we should get something that maybe,

well, then it would have nowhere near the capabilities that this has. Don't tell me how to do my job. Also. Lifetime. Okay. We've studied these things. Have you? I don't.

All right. You're saying it's not going to. Yeah. Just shut up. Okay. How much is it? Oh, that feels like a lot, doesn't it? That's cheap for one of those. Yeah, but think about what you're saying it's not going to... Yeah. Just shut up. Okay. How much is it? Oh, that feels like a lot, doesn't it? That's cheap for one of those.

Yeah, but think about what you're buying. Think about what you're buying. It fixes itself. You don't even need to talk to it. It can't talk. It doesn't even know who you are. It doesn't matter. It fixes itself.

What? If someone tells you to shut up, what can you do? Bingo. Start screaming. I can't remember what episode. And to upgrade this thing, $300,000 probably. No problem. Oh, that's it?

Jeez. Thought it'd be $500. Can you sell that one? Can I get a little bit of money for that one? I would recommend not starting a sports network where you have to build, or a network at all, where you have to build a studio. I would not recommend it. Well, you mentioned that in the vlog.

Just fucking up. Of the not recommend it. Well, you mentioned that in the vlog. Just fucking up. Of the Disney Upfront. The whole Disney Upfront story, though, I'm happy we have a video of that to remember it. Such a large fucking room there. What are you watching? Massive. Gonna remember that. Talked about my daughter's farting in there.

What's that fart? She's gonna be pumped to remember that. Let's go to another phone call, let's go to Tim in Maryland 500 front line, what's going on, Tim? Oh shit, Pat boys, I apologize I'm mowing the lawn, can you hear me alright? Yeah, happy you're working out there What do you want to talk about, Tim?

Alright, well first Huge congratulations to Dirty Cody God damn it What? I thought we weren't doing congratulations Well, it's the first one for Dirty. No, no, no. Connor, Connor, Connor.

It was not for the show and for Pat, okay? Oh, okay. It's for Dirty. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. Hell yeah. Congratulations, Dirty. Thank you.

Thank you very much. I heard congrats, and I said, I'm fucking done with it. Connor, I was going to ask you to officially officiate my wedding. All right, fair enough. Connor, I was going to ask you to officiate my wedding But because you responded like that I'm going to move on You missed out You missed out

When's the wedding I'm busy, I'm sorry October interferes with football My sister's birthday is in October It's on Thursday Oh, guess what, there's Thursday football Thursday wedding? October interferes with football. My sister's birthday is in October. It's on Thursday. Well, guess what? There's Thursday football.

Thursday wedding? Tim, high school, college, and NFL plays on Thursdays as well. There's a lot of football in October. But nonetheless. It's just cheaper to have it on the weekends. Oh, yeah. We understand. We love the move that you made, especially in October. What do you want to talk about, Bob?

Well, Pat, you've talked plenty of times on this show about how you think, you know, the Stanford boy would have really benefited from sitting behind possibly a veteran when he got drafted. Andrew Luck. God damn it. I can't forget the snore-bearing accident. Motherfucker's name. Oh, well.

Yeah, you're embarrassed. Anthony Richardson just came to the Colts, and a certain quarterback who had Anthony Richardson on his list for backups that he would backup for, Cam Newton. Do you think Colts would possibly pick him up as an option to be a good mentor? Interesting, Tim. That's an interesting

question. I appreciate you calling in and asking it. They got Gardner Minshew, right? And I'm not saying Gardner Minshew has anywhere near the resume that Cam Newton does, but he does know the offense pretty good. Has had success as a starter. Has been through it all and could probably benefit

there, but I don't think they're thinking about bringing in another veteran quarterback. Although I think Anthony Richardson and Cam have a great relationship and it would be fantastic. That doesn't feel like a Chris Ballard move. No, but you'd want to, right? We got Anthony Richardson, buddy. We're not doing the whole retired, almost football player guy anymore. Nope.

We're not watching highlights of the old days saying this guy's still great. I love Cam Newton. I want Cam Newton on every team. If we didn't draft Anthony Richardson, I'd say, hell yeah, give us Cam Newton. Bring him in. Phil Rivers, Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, man. Carson Wentz, hell yes. Okay? Bring it. We'd love Bring him in. Phil Rivers, Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, man. Carson Wentz, hell yes.

Okay? Yeah. Bring it. We'd love everything about it. But instead, you know, we drafted Anthony Richardson, and he's an absolute dog. So we're going to want him to know this team is his. I'm in Gardner.

Oh, that's Sam Ellinger. Yeah, right. He's still in the squad. Oh, there's Richardson. Here we go. Frog with a great snap. Shout out, Frog. Going through. Look how big he is. Yeah, right. He's still in the squad. Here we go. Frog with a great snap. Shout out, Frog. Going through.

Look how big he is. Settle yourself. He's huge. Huge. Yeah, pretty athletic, too. Let's see it. Let's fucking hit it, pal. Will Levis? No.

Let's go. There's the guy. Let's go. There's the guy. Yo. Yo. Yo. Fucking yo.

We got a guy! You got the guy. Wow. Yes. Are you kidding me, dude? Holy shit. Undefeated for sure. We got the guy.

Yeah. Okay. Let's go. Congratulations, everybody else that drafted a quarterback or has one on their team. Welcome to the Anthony Richardson era. Went through that bag drill, touched one. Didn't touch it again. Absolutely flawless on where the

ball was being positioned in the pocket while he was under duress and he was moving. And then on the run, flick of the wrist, beautiful spiral. Thing looks like it came out of a jugs machine. Bardanski? Exactly what he was. Good luck, NFL, for the next 15 years. looks like it came out of a jugs machine. Bardonski? Yep.

Exactly what he was. Good luck, NFL, for the next 15 years. We got a guy. Oh, man. That is gorgeous. Bardonski. That is gorgeous. Oh, AJ. Hey, the ball does come out of his hand nice, man.

He looks comfortable. It's a feel-good Friday, isn't it? Yeah. I'd say. I haven't felt this good so i can't wait to watch him me too watch out for the mascot foxy you know what there is you know there's one thing left to do right huh fucking pay the rest of that stadium off yes and make that money back if they are five

pay the rest of the stadium do what the what the Vikings did. Follow in their footsteps. I don't even know if that's even in the... No, because they don't even... Yeah, you're right. Their cults aren't even leasing it, right? Yeah, it's not even on. That would be sweet if they had pool tabs, though. It's renting.

Oh, I love that. You know, we posted that video explaining that the Minnesota Vikings paid off their debt or whatever of their loan like 26 years earlier, whatever it is. Saving $200 and some million dollars for taxpayers' money that would be taken directly out of people's, that are added to people's taxes. And then you got people like Bruce out there going, yeah, but why don't you look at how he got that money to pay off Ellen? They sold stuff to people.

What? So who actually paid for it? It's like, like well excuse me i didn't know that the minnesota team was going to put a farm together for money trees and they were just going to grow the money to fucking pay it back i assumed at some point they were going to have to sell a product or something to customers to earn money to pay money back what are we doing no it was minnesotans that bought it he was like they're the only ones buying the pool tabs are they the only ones that bought the jerseys are they the only ones that bought the tickets are they the only ones about the concessions are they the only

ones that bought the beers are they the only ones that bought the parking passes are they the only ones that bought anything what into making money as a business in the NFL? Huh. Interesting. Well, look, they bought it off all the booze bags, all the beer. That's what they sold. It's like, yeah. Sorry. It's like getting taken out of everybody that isn't interested in the Vikings' taxes automatically and making everybody furious. They did a business move to earn money.

That's crazy. Before you know it, they're going to fucking use some of that money to pay Justin Jefferson, and that's fucking... That's it. It is Minnesota's money. That's crazy. Before you know it, they're going to fucking use some of that money to pay Justin Jefferson and that's fucking... That's it. It is Minnesota's money. That's where we draw the line. Do they have 100% home attendance rate at their stadiums? They're very high this year. No, no, I'm saying

yes, obviously they are selling that place out. I'm talking about only home fans in the entire stadium. Only Vikings fans. Not a single away team fan was in there at all. That's what I thought. They did it on purpose

so that they could fucking get only Minnesotans money. That's right. I think maybe the highest visiting fan rate was at Minnesota. Just off of how many Giants fans were at the away game. Not higher than the Chargers. Or the Raiders. Poletap's great business.

Poletap's great business. Great business. Oh, yeah. We were talking about it today, about how it's hard not to just start popping. Oh, my God. I love them. Once you start doing it. And then it's so, like, kind of cheap.

You know? Yeah, exactly. Till it's not. It quietly stacks up. Yeah, and then you just, I can get you one more. I can't up. I can't win. I can't lose 10 straight. Give me another 20. Big face coffee.

Boom. Pringles. So good. Got it. Underneath. You put one underneath. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Underneath. You put one underneath. Oh, maybe bonus ball. Bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus

ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. Oh. Oh, still there. Right. Don't need it. Yeah, don't need it. Right.

Not on this feel-good Friday after watching Anthony Richardson throw that ball right there. Unreal. Goddamn right. Right through the net. Swack. Fuck. Hold on. I might.

Hold on. I might. I wonder if I go over with the basketball. That'd be sweet. Nice. Hold on, I might Hold on Sweet Nice This is it, this is the one AJ, what's this for right now? What are we doing? What, 10 merches? What do you think?

10 merches 15 merches 15 merches, 10 merches? What do you think? 10 merches. 15 merches. 15 merches. 20 merches. 15 merches. 15 merches. Okay. 15 merches because Anthony Richardson is a certified dog.

Hey, man. You seen him on that drill? Oh, yeah. Looked big. How could you not watch that and think to yourself, oh, Colts, Super Bowl champions. Rookie of the year. Oh, my God.

Velocity. Dart. Frog with a stick. Oh, my God. Velocity. Dart. Frog with a snap. Oh, my God. Nice catch. Great catch by the equipment room. Frog with a snap. Dart to T.

T's been catching footballs for the last 20 years at the Combine and for the Colts. Oh, my God. Wow. Ball placement. Oh, my God. They got a guy. Oh, my God. You got a guy. Got the Colts. Oh my God. Wow. Ball placement. Oh my God. They got a guy. Oh my God. You got a guy. Got the next gentleman. Yes!

Yes! Ty, still good. Might as well sling one of those into the fuck. It was never basketball. It was always football just like Anthony Richardson. You're right. That's what it always was. It's hard for me though to like you know like Well, it was always football just like Anthony Richardson. You're right. Yep. That's what it always was. Do what he just did. It's hard for me, though, to like, you know, like,

I'm still going to be in such jovial spirits after watching those videos of Anthony Richardson. No matter what happens, it's ball. Right. You know, when I miss in other days, like I'm genuinely disappointed that I missed. Why am I putting that on tape? Why am I letting down all the people? Why am I letting that moment not happen?

Genuinely bummed. Today, it's going to be hard to find time to be bummed. You got a guy. You got a baby at home. You got a guy quarterback. Holy shit, AJ! The video might carry you for the next I don't know, three, four months? At least. Boom! Wow!

See? I'm following your lead, Anthony Richardson. Coach to the Super Bowl. All right, 15 merches. All you do is retweet this video and say something nice to somebody. It's a feel-good Friday. You should do that anyways. Big thanks to Mitch Morse, Chuck Pagano, and Kenny Albert joining us today

and all the guests from this week. Everybody is so incredibly kind to us with their time when they come in and tell us their takes and their thoughts and their stories we are very lucky to do this for a living we hope you will join us on monday for a big one we got basketball finals reactions hockey finals reactions elevated golf tournament reactions let's go have an incredible weekend be nice to somebody and uh goodbye