The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 918 - Shams Charania, Baron Corbin, Kendrick Perkins, Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the Miami Heat getting a massive win in Game 2 of the NBA Finals, the Stanley Cup Finals Game 2 tonight, the Buffalo Bills breaking ground on their new stadium today, the Bears running into some trouble in their new stadium situation, Dalvin Cook potentially being on the move to Miami, and everything else going on in the sports world. Joining the progrum to chat about the NBA Finals, the news that Kyrie Irving is trying to encourage LeBron to come to Dallas, potential new expansion teams, and more, is NBA Insider for The Athletic, Stadium, and Fanduel TV’s Run It Back, Shams Charania (19:24-47:27). Next, WWE Superstar Baron Corbin joins the show to chat about the Charity Softball game he played in this weekend in Kansas City, why KC is so special to people from there, and what he’s going to do in the WWE world now that he’s a free agent (1:16:59-1:26:14). Later, NBA Champion, 27th pick of the 2003 NBA Draft, ESPN NBA Analyst, “Big Perk” Kendrick Perkins joins the show to chat about the NBA Finals, why it’s the media’s fault that we don’t know more about Nikola Jokic, what the Heat need to do to neutralize the Joker, the importance of vets in the locker room, and why having a deep bench matters (1:45:51-1:58:36). Lastly, General Manager of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Beane joins the show to chat about the new stadium, signing Leonard Floyd, Ed Oliver’s new deal, constructing a contender, if D Hop is still in play, how difficult the division is going to be this year, and more (2:10:23-2:32:17). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this glorious Overreaction Monday, June 5th, 2023. This sports program starts right now. Sports! Are happening all around us. Last night, the NBA Finals got tied up to 1-1 as the Miami Heat proved to be the best fourth quarter team in the NBA playoffs, putting on an absolute clinic in Denver in the fourth quarter, in the NBA playoffs, putting on an absolute clinic in Denver in the fourth quarter, taking the lead. Hemi Butler says we need three more. That's all.

On his shirt walking out, we know how we can get to four. I'll be excited to see the chess match that happens between Malone and Spolstra to see how we continue to move forward. Spolstra was offended that anybody asked about how he could contain the Joker, letting him score, not allowing him assist. And then all of a sudden, with 40 points scored, Joker's done it three times. They're 0-3. Do you just let the big guy who's must-watch television literally just roam free in the

middle and let him score all you have to score if you're on the other team? Seems to be the case. Jamal Murray got hot for a little bit, but in the end, it didn't matter because Gabe Vincent and Struess came out firing. I think he had like nine threes in the first half or something there was no hesitancy no no at all from a man that won 0 for 9 in game one I loved everything about a scene from the Miami Heat now we have a game three on the horizon at six feet above sea level as opposed to 5,280 feet above sea level which is

what Denver is. Can't wait to see how this pans out. Looks like we're going to have a seven-game barn burner. Feels like we're going to have quite a battle, and these two teams have really put on a show for all of us, so we appreciate that. Thank you, teams. The NHL Stanley Cup Finals will have its game two this evening.

Can't wait to watch that, dive into that, and notice how Stoner and the boys are ready to hoist Ordo in Vegas six years in to the team's creation. Sports are happening everywhere. Golf has a new champion. Victor Hovland won a memorial yesterday. Everybody thought it was Rory's for the take, and Rory collapsed.

Of course. Okay, it's a tough course. Still finishing top five. Had to handshake from Jack. Foxy thought Rory was going to be able to win that thing. Actually tweeted me in the morning like, hey, things are going good. Rory's about to win this one. Has to eat off to 135. Then all of a sudden, about 215, you look at the stand and it's like, where's Rory? Where the hell is he?

Where's Rory going? He's not playing. I like how properly jocked he is. He hit one like 370 or something like that. I mean, he's bombing the balls all over the place for whatever reason. He just cannot win a tourney. He can't put four days together. He wakes up co-leader on a Sunday feeling good.

Can't wait to shake that man's heart. He ended his round on Saturday not in the lead. Wakes up in the lead, right? Because the leader loses one on 18. He becomes the leader. All of a sudden, all we got to do is just get through the day. Then you see Scottie Scheffler kind of getting hot there. That motherfucker's got like 20 straight tourneys in the top 10 or something.

He's unbelievable. He's a robot. Started making putts. Jordan Speed chipped in.ffler kind of getting hot there. And that motherfucker's got like 20 straight turners in the top 10 or something. He's unbelievable. He's a robot. Started making putts. Jordan Spieth chipped in. He got within three of the lead. Like, oh, is Jordan Spieth going to go on a run? Nah. McCarthy, who's this guy? Seemingly he's going to fall off. And then Victor Hovland, a man who's been knocking on doors seemingly for so long. And this picks up his fourth

PGA win. Congrats to him and congrats to golf. Have a great tournament. Another great tournament from great tournament for from the golf folks it feels like it's every other weekend this was an elevated event so I believe everybody was there which probably means that it's a little bit more interesting also shout out to uh Rose Zhang yeah oh yeah yeah yeah dog yeah she's the next one dog goes into her first professional tournament I guess the entire lady golf world was like, this is the one. This is the one.

This is the one. It's like LeBron James, it sounds like. I don't know. I don't follow the ladies PGA or the women's PGA. Is it LPGA? LPGA, yeah. I don't follow the LPGA close enough to even know what the fucking name of it is. Okay, that's 100% on me.

I do apologize. Love golf. Don't follow closely enough. But the way they're talking about this lady, Rose, as a 20-year-old, it's like, hey, this is the LeBron. This is the phenom. This is the chosen one. Then in her first professional tournament, wins, wakes up on Sunday in the lead,

takes it home. She's a fucking dog. I guess this is going to be great for the state of golf. And obviously, ladies golf is a hole. At that point, I heard when the highlights were going this morning, I heard Tiger's name pop in there. Whoa. Like that type of phenom.

Once Stanford, I believe. Simmer Brain. So you get any comparison like that, normally there's a lot of weight, but it didn't fucking matter. I saw Michelle Wee West getting interviewed and she said, Rose makes it look a lot easier than I do. She hits a lot of fairways, hits a lot of greens. Michelle Wee, whenever she came in, I guess she was spraying it all over the place.

So congrats. Hey, let's go. I love when there's an immense amount of pressure on people. Hell yeah. And then they just fucking show right up and just like, I don't care. Awesome. Now, I don't know if she's too young not to know what she is, which might not be the case. But who cares? Yeah, she does.

Anytime everybody is telling you, you are the one, you are the one, you are the one, you are the one. It's easy to kind of dive into that and start believing that narrative. I am the one. And there used to be something, I forget what the metaphor is, but there was a story of some, maybe it was Caesar or somebody else, had somebody walk behind them and say like, you were just a man, you were just a man, you were just a man. Because anytime they walked in public, they

were being heralded as this God, this God, this God. Somebody had to remind them like, hey, you still poop with your pants down. You know what I mean? You still throw, you are still a human in there. So the fact that Rose has this ability to get heralded as a goddess of sport and still show up and still execute whenever the sweet spot on a golf ball is that fucking big. Absolute fucking dog.

And I love everything about it. Sports kicking ass. The talk table is here. At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Cowboys turn digs this year. It's a new shirt. It is a new shirt.

Tony. Tony shirt. Takes the. Tony, new shirt. It is a new shirt. Tony. Tony shirt. Takes the Z-turn for a walk. One neighborhood to another. Got a new shirt. Good tan. This is spring tone. Come on, Tony.

Life is good. Hey, life is good. Okay, so Tony took his Z-turn mower two miles from his old house to his new house. Rode that thing right down the sidewalk, crossed the street without even thinking about somebody else having to maybe turn down there minivan lady here i guess respects what's tones doing but also you had to hold her entire life up right there when she gets t-boned right there oh man for being honest i did not see that minivan coming would have been kind of cool if i got hit by it. Yeah. Get him out of Z-turn. I don't know about that.

Shout out to you, Move, and get a new house moving. How about it, Tony? Move is always fun. Everybody in here seems to be having a good time. That's why we took such a big pay cut. Because we've got 13 employees. Everybody's either building houses or having babies or moving into bigger houses. Take a big-time pay cut.

That's right. Tony, great weekend, though, this weekend of sport. Great weekend. Genuine, great weekend of sport. UFC had a fight. I guess there was a big controversial finish for that one. Yeah, apparently. I don't watch all the UFC fights, 100% on me.

We'll watch it, though. Absolutely. You know, we'll watch it if it's, I happen to be at a TV when it's on. Don't like to get too connected, too many stories. Just want to see them in there brawling. Exactly. And, hey, do your thing.

I respect the art. I guess there's a controversial finish where one person had, like, I want to say, like, 35 connected shots, maybe. Sure. And the other person had, like, 110 or something. A lot. Knockdowns, takedownowns everything on this side so they won and then this one won real yeah i think yeah i just saw a graphic i didn't see the fight

that needs to get fixed that's bad that can't happen how does that continue to happen now we did not see the fight no no at all but i did see uh daniel cormier tweeted about it this morning and basically said like the first round was incredibly close like neck and neck and then yeah the other dude basically dominated the last two rounds and still somehow lost. But that's why they always say, hey, can't let it go to the judges. These guys will fuck you over any chance they can get. And it happens more often than not.

Why does it happen so much? What plan are we all on? You know what I mean? We're not all watching the same fight. Apparently not. Now, granted, there's been a couple fights where I guess I've been on the wrong side of it. I'm like, yo, this guy definitely won.

But at least the stats are comparable. You know what I mean? Like, amount of head shots, amount of body shots, amount of takedowns, amount of defenses and everything like that. But sometimes, I guess, there's some that just pop up and it's like, this makes no sense at all. They had another one of those. But hockey, fucking game two this evening. Stoner had an incredible game.

How about third period? 2-2. Bats that thing down fucking goal time all the time. How you doing? Keep it moving. You like the Vegas Golden Knights here, game two, against a very, very talented Florida squad. For sure, I do. I mean, that game, game one was back and forth. I mean, it was beads of sweat, very worried going into the third period. And then that's what home ice advantage is all about.

The Golden Knights turn it on in the third period and kind of let you breathe a little bit. But, I mean, that's kind of ice advantage is all about. The Golden Knights turn it on in the third period and kind of let you breathe a little bit. But, I mean, that's kind of been the thing the whole time. It's like, hey, Bobrovsky's a dog. We'll see what he can do. But if you can get a couple in on him, I mean, Vegas' goaltender, he had maybe the save of the season. Yeah, boom, right there.

Aiden Hill sticking his goal out. If that goes in, who knows? The game's completely different. But then again, they've just been getting production from everybody. It's not just the Stoner show or the Jackie Aces show. They've been getting goals from their third-line guys. They have really been playing well, so yeah,

I do like them tonight. Aiden Hill's flying around. Flying around. He flies around. Now it's 2-2 with like six minutes left in the third. Ends up being 5-2, obviously. That's how things go in hockey. Once you pop, you can't stop. But I love that we got good finals, seemingly, and in the NBA. Last night, I think Miami has proved they get it to the fourth quarter. It's like there's some football teams.

Normally teams that view themselves as tough teams. Like, let's get this to the fourth quarter, and then let's figure it out. Wear them now. Because they don't want to come into the deep sea with us. Exactly. They don't want to get in there. Let's get it to the fourth quarter. And when it gets to the fourth quarter, we'll fucking take it home.

Feels like Miami, the Heat, seemingly, because it was what? They scored 30, I think, first game in the fourth quarter, which led to Malone saying, like, in the fourth quarter, we got absolutely killed or whatever. And last night after the game, he said, everybody got mad at me for saying, that was being dramatic for saying our team did not play well. He started rattling off stats.

And Miami had in that game one where it looked like Denver was dominant. In the big ones, like fourth quarter, we give up 30 points in the fourth quarter pretty much. Can't do that. Fourth quarter again last night becomes the kind of sway in this whole thing. The Miami Heat are a fucking tough team. Obviously, you're an eight seed making it to the finals. Sure. But I love everything about what's going on in the finals right now.

With this Denver team, with the Heat team, with the way Malone speaks. He's the best. Like a human. Yeah. He's a human. Oh, yeah. Spoelstra, seemingly human. Human, same way, yeah.

And then you got two teams, dogs. It's like, I really like what's happening. Three-point game last night, 1-1. We're in for it, I think. Yeah, and it feels like it is going seven. You mentioned that earlier. And the one thing with the Heat is I think they've had seven games where they have been down by 15 or more and have come back in one.

And that ties the record, of course. And there's a chance we're going to see that again. But, you know, the biggest thing, and we talked about this on Friday a little, like Strews, you know, he was 0 for 9. And Caleb Martin, who didn't play great last night again but had a huge bucket in the fourth quarter when they needed it hit a three and then they went back up by 10 or something so like they're players and jimmy buckets is going to do what he does and bam out of bio is going to do what he does and he hates whoever the hell was talking to him after the game yeah pr person allegedly yeah

pr something for his own team yeah right yeah. Because I was trying to figure it out on the internet last night whenever I saw it as well when he was doing this. Me too, yeah. He was fucking really scolding somebody. Oh yeah, he was not happy. I don't like you. That's kind of what the whole view was. It felt like. And it was like, ooh, who was that? Was that somebody from the Nuggets that did something? It was like, I think it was

his own PR person probably put him in an interview that he did not want to do. And that person just signed on for it. Who knows? is balling ball yeah he's crushing it and then the other thing too is and I saw this on the internet this morning Duncan Robinson signed that massive deal a couple years ago but as a shooter you know you have to a lot of the incentives that you have to hit you have to start and he lost his starting role so they said he's probably lost 10 million dollars roughly and he's still coming in off the they said he's probably lost $10 million roughly, and he's still coming in off the bench.

And then balling. Like at the start of the fourth quarter, he was the one, yeah, exactly. He kind of started that whole comeback. It's unbelievable. It was like 11.33 left, I believe, in the fourth quarter, and he rattled off like 11 straight points, including a layup where there was a lot of contact, but he did not get a foul.

And immediately afterwards, it was like a timeout, and he's flexing the whole way down the court. And it's hard not to be like, Duncan Robinson flexing. Oh, yeah. Okay. Great fade. Had a good fade. He was shooting and popping.

Undrafted. They were running some great plays. Like, the way Spolster was kind of running that, I don't know enough about basketball. I try to listen to all the experts whenever they talk, but Spolster really seemingly has it figured out. He's a beast. And I watched him one time sit through an entire timeout and not write a single thing on the

dry erase. That's right. That was my eyes seeing him right here. In the playoffs, right? Yeah, I sat right behind the heat bench when the Pacers and the Heat were playing against each other back in the day. That was like an every year type thing in the Eastern Conference playoffs. I don't know. Finals, I don't know. Semis usually, but I think they did play in the finals.

But the Heat, whenever Braun was on the team against the Pacers that were like George Hill, Paul George, Roy Hibbert, Stevenson, Lance Stevenson. There was quite a Pacers crew. Great squad. It was fun to watch. It was fun to go to those games. And I was

like mid-20s, like early 20s. I mean, I was having a great time with these things and i i had tickets right behind the heat bench for one of the playoffs playoff games and they all came to the bench and everybody was pissed you know lebron was sitting over here duane wade was over here bosh was like right in the middle with a couple other people but nobody was really paying attention and i watched bolster literally just hand on dry erase board not do a thing for like 45 seconds. And then they were like, all right, let's go back in there. I'm like, this fucking guy literally just did that for the photo or what was happening.

And I would assume at that moment he was like, there's nothing that needs to be said. But everybody needs to think that I'm at least saying something or maybe that's just how he relaxed. But I literally watched it happen. So my immediate thought is like, this guy, I know what he's doing. Now you're watching him put on fucking clinics. this guy is a genius it seems like and the whole not let uh joker kind of pass the ball is that that has to be real at this point yeah for sure because you look what i mean like you can when teams crash down on him and he can kick out and guys are getting open looks from three and they're making them like that that is – I mean, you'd rather take him scoring 45 than having him 14 assists and the Nuggets hitting, you know,

12 threes out of those 14 assists. Like, it does make a big difference. I thought Jamal Murray was going to hit that game, Todd. That's that back. Yeah, me too. Jimmy Butler was – I mean, that was a big difference. Yeah, but Jamal, like you mentioned, in that fourth quarter, the last four minutes, he got pretty hot.

And he had that second quarter stint where they went on like a 32-9 run or something. But, I mean, I thought he was going to. The way he shoots is Jamal does a full arm. Yeah. You know what I mean? He like. Like both hands almost.

Literally from, it's like, it almost looks like old school shooting. Yeah, a little bit. When he puts it in. When he gets hot, it's nice. I can't tell because they went to the TV. Do we know if, do they put fours up at the other side of the court? I don't know. I hope.

Imagine they all do. They got that old school mentality. Remember, they do conditioning, cardio, this, this, this. They do the hard things hard. Spoh said something like that. Hard things harder. Is that what he said? And when they were –

They said we get harder. We get really super hard down in Miami. Something like that. But, no, when they were talking about – So he said when we walk around down in Miami, we're harder? We get really super hard down in Miami. Something like that. But no, when they were talking about it. So he said, when we walk around down in Miami, we're fucking harder than hard. We're bricked up so fucking hard. I think that's what he was talking about when Ramona Shelburne asked him about Jokic turning him into a scorer and not a facilitator. Here's what Solstra had to say about the whole how do you handle Joker and make it easier for your basketball team.

Final question. I'm going to let Ramona Shelburne answer. How do you handle Joker and make it easier for your basketball team? Final question. Hey, Coach. Final question. He was out of there. This is probably oversimplifying things, but sometimes when teams play against Jokic, you turn him into a scorer, you turn him into a passer, and he controls the game.

He only had four assists tonight. That's ridiculous. It's just the untrained eye that says something like that. This guy's an incredible player you know twice in two seasons he's been the best player on this planet you can't just say oh make him a score that's not how they play they have so many different actions that just get you compromised. We have to focus on what we do. We try to do things the hard way, and he requires you to do many things the hard way.

Hell yeah. He has our full respect. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Coach. Okay, so the question you just asked, I understand it's not your necessary thought. No. But I've seen that others have thought this.

You don't know basketball. You sound like an idiot. Yeah. That's what he said. Yeah. But I've seen that others have thought this. You don't know basketball. You sound like an idiot. Yeah. That's what he said. The untrained eye. You just you don't know basketball. You should not be talking about basketball. You don't know basketball. Don't love that I have to answer questions about people who

don't know basketball while coaching in the NBA Finals. Hand on head. I can't fucking take it. I can't take it anymore. So pissed. I've seen this. You know, my family sent me a couple of these headlines. And I tried not to read them or look at them, okay,

because they make me upset. But then the volume of them, the volume, the volume, the volume. I saw Bill Walton say it on the Mac for a show. I just can't. I can't. I can't. You don't know basketball, shut up. That's basically what he said.

Yeah. But we're just looking at stats, dude. He scores 43 times, they lose. Yeah, exactly. Let him score, Spoh. Right. Okay. Simple as that.

Maybe they'll cover him. Yeah, that's actually what they should do. Boom. Double Murray. Yep. Then just keep everybody else kind of around there. Yep. Just let him stand in the middle and let him do highlights if he wants.

Yeah, exactly. Let him score 80 points. Let him throw it off the backboard. Then he's assisting to himself. Oh, is that playmaking? Who cares? Just him. I'm happy to think, though, that he was definitely talking to us.

Yeah, there's a chance. We are untrained eyes. But Grant Hill did say, hey, when Will Chamberlain was in the playoffs, the strategy was just one-on-one. Who said that? Wasn't it Grant Hill? No, it was Bill Walton. Bill Walton on this show.

Oh, Bill Walton said that? Yeah, on this show. Oh, jeez. I forget what Bill Walton was saying a lot of times just because, you know, I was getting lost in the sauce. I was loving everything he was saying, but there was a lot of things he was saying. I will say one of my greatest feats of all time was I was trying my best to listen to every single word.

Me too. I was trying to stay in there, trying to ride the wave, because I'm also a long speaker, so there's a chance that I might out of nowhere do that whole thing. And I was just trying to pay him the respect of keeping up. And then, you know, catching him whenever he had a little bit of a lull so I can maybe interject and see if we can get back in there. So you have to really – there was a couple times that he lost me.

Me too. But then he brought it right back. Oh, yeah. I was kind of free-falling there for the middle of it, and then all of a sudden Bill Walton came back in with and that's why, and I was bang, right back in it. But he's the one that said

when Bill Russell was playing his best or something like that, it was that entire situation. Bill Russell was covering Will Chamberlain, and that was the strategy. He didn't do well. He scored 60 or something, but he didn't win. He didn't win. Which is what, I guess, an untrained eye would say. Also, he didn't do well. He scored 60 or something, but he didn't win. He didn't win. He didn't lose. Which is what, I guess, an untrained eye would say.

Also, shout out Kevin Love. A lot of people probably forget, but I saw a three-minute highlight of him when he was with the T-Wolves back earlier in the career, and he was Mr. 25 and 20. He's been playing awesome, especially last night. He started. Yeah, he started over Caleb Martin, which was a big decision. His defense was great, obviously,

but I think he brings a certain level of composure out there, too, to the team. Because he's been there, done that. You talk about Timberwolves, obviously with the Cavs, and I think he's been a couple other places before he ends up with the Miami Heat. But remember, when he was with the Cavs, it was like, is this guy back going to be okay for him to play? We're 20 years later, he's still playing. Congrats to him and his health.

Joining us now is a man who might have more information on his health and the health of the NBA and what's going on around the association. He's a senior insider for the stadium and FanDuel and The Athletic. Ladies and gentlemen, front of the program, Shams Sharani. Shams, big night for the NBA. 1-1 the NBA Finals. Let's go. Let's go.

Good for everybody. Good for you. How are you doing? Where are you at right now, brother? I'm good. I'm in LA just doing our FanDuel shows, trying to knock it out day by day. I live day to day out here in LA. Still gloomy. Still gloomy out here. It's like every time I

come out here, it gets gloomy, but I'm here. That's because you suck up all the fucking energy and sunshine. That's right. You know, LA and you cannot have all the sun. Can't do it. Goes right into Shamshiranya, then you get out of there and it pops back out. That's right. And then all of LA is kind of... Let's talk about

LA a little bit because there was a tweet that was put out like an hour or two ago that had a lot of action. Trending. A lot of action. Yeah, here we go. Is it trending? I haven't been on Twitter. Is it trending? Yeah, that's a lot of fucking action A lot of action. Yeah, here we go. I hear it's trending. Is it trending? I haven't been on Twitter. Is it trending? 14,000 reach. Yeah, that's a lot of fucking action.

I'd say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's doing okay. It's trending. Yeah. It's for announcement news, you know, but, you know, we're, you know, maybe it's trying to make some waves.

Kyrie Irving has reached out to Lakers star LeBron James and attempts to see if James would come to Dallas. Irving is a free agent this offseason. Okay, so he's not currently under contract with the Mavs obviously allegedly everything we've been told by you and others is that they would like to keep him down there even though whenever he went to Dallas that team kind of went to shit not their fault they'll figure it out going forward I would assume but LeBron James one year after his son or during his son signing to USC and having everything going, would want to go to Dallas, you think? Is this a real – what's the reality behind this entire situation happening?

Yeah, I mean, the reality is it's probably very unlikely because of the reasons you just mentioned. Like LeBron James, for everything I've heard, he's happy with LA, being know with LA being in LA his son Bronny is about to play at USC so you know there's a lot of reasons why being a Laker retiring as a Laker makes a lot of sense for LeBron James and I think you know probably even when Kyrie Irving you know the crux of the story is that Kyrie Irving is trying to recruit LeBron James to potentially come to Dallas see if he would be open to coming to Dallas.

I'm told he's formally reached out, made contact with LeBron James to seek whether James would be open to it. And the interesting wrinkle here is that at the end of the year, LeBron James did make some comments when they were eliminating the Western Conference Finals that hinted at him possibly considering retirement and that he's going to be mulling how long he wants to he wants to play now i came on this show i spoke about it you know his foot he's dealing with a foot issue we'll see what happens there but everyone i've spoken to fully expects and my full expectation that lebron david is going to play next season he has way too much left in

the tank he looks too good he just averaged what 29 7 and 6 like the numbers he's putting up at the age of 38 unbelievable so i think everyone expects him to play but the fact that kairi irving everyone talked about kairi irving going to la lebron clearly has made it known he wants to play with kairi irving and he wants to play with kairi irving in la but now kairi irving is changing this and he wants to recruit and i think the bigger story is what will happen with kairi irving in free agency the fact that he's going on wanting to recruit a guy like lebron james it's clear he's putting on his recruiting cap he wants to get talent in dallas he's trying to recruit talent to dallas and we'll see how that plays out in votes for his free agency yeah most likely outcome here

kyrie ends up in dallas lebron stays at la or kyi ends up in la and this was just like a big i tried type play you know what i mean i mean listen with the agency you never never know but i i think kairi erving it seemed like he enjoyed experiences in dallas i know mark cuban nico harrison they've been vocal about wanting to bring him back i think that's probably the more likely outcome in all of this but these players are talking and and when players talk and when when guys start to recruit each other there was a period of about two months um where kairi was deciding on his future and him and lebron james were were going back and forth and i think kairi at that point there were times last summer where he wanted to be a Laker. No question.

He ends up staying with the Nets. We talked about it. We broke all that. Then he ends up getting traded to the Mavericks. The Lakers have an opportunity to trade for him. He ends up in Dallas Maverick. And I think there is going to be a lot of interest in him staying there. But the fact that this is now a conversation, I think this is two years in a row where the possibility, the reunion of LeBron James, Kyrie Irving,

two guys that won the championship together in Cleveland, it's going to be a storyline. Yeah, hell yeah. 14,000 retweets on something that probably isn't likely. I love everything about it. Everybody wants to see it happen again because, oh, you know, you remember when Kyrie was in there and cooking. Pete Golden State.

Man, imagine LeBron with him and Luka. Whoa. That would be crazy. The interesting thing is, it's not like it's just, all right, Kyrie Irving wants to play with LeBron James. I mean, every player in the league wants to play with LeBron James. The big thing here is that entering free agency, Kyrie Irving is now making it known.

He wants to see if the Mavericks can go get a guy like Kyrie Irving. He's reached out to LeBron James. Go get LeBron. He's reached out to LeBron directly in the last several days. And so he wants this to happen. We'll see what the real odds are of it actually taking place. Okay. So Kyrie in Dallas still,

just as somebody that does not know basketball that well, call me a casual. Call me a noob. Call me whatever you want. We're not noobs here when I'm on. Yeah, you are not. You're in there. You're actually in the league.

So shout out to you being there. I actually seen this Dallas Mavericks team play basketball, though, with these eyes, played against the Pacers. That arena was filled up for Luka because Lca the way luca was playing dog and luca had that pass cross court if you do recall at the pacers game that was the entire takeaway moment but shortly before that they were playoff contenders like here we go this team's going to potentially go luca may be going to win the mvp luca's going to win the mvp then's going to win the MVP. Then Kyrie goes to their team. They don't make the playoffs.

They're resting players. Luka doesn't like basketball anymore. Remember? That was happening there for like a week or two. Had to get investigated because the last game of the season, they decided to not play Luka. Not play anybody. So what happened there, you think, behind the scenes? And how do they fix that for next year if they're going to remain all in one unit?

It seems like they want to remain. Did I accurately describe what had taken place yeah i mean listen from from a surface level from like bare bones yes like carver everything went there they were i think they were the three or four seed in the western conference and they end up all the way out of the playoffs all the way out of the play-in um that is that is definitely resting players at the end it was ridiculous resting players at the end of the draft ridiculous. Resting players at the end to keep their top 10 pick, which is now going to be potential trade bait out there in the marketplace. And they got fined $500,000 for that situation

where they essentially admitted to tanking. But I think when you look at it, and Jason Kidd has spoken to it, I think Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic played, I want to say, 15 games, 12 games with each other the second half of the season. The Mavericks, Jason Kidd, Mark Cuban, Nico Harrison, they fully believe that we need to give these guys more reps. Both these guys can show that they can score, they can play with each other. They both seem to like each other. And I'm told latter half of the season, they both spend time working out together, spending more time together.

So they fully believe that like, we're going to get these two guys, right. It's about building around them, building continuity, building chemistry. And that's where this off season comes into play is like, they need talent on this Mavericks team. So yes, would you love a guy like LeBron James on this team? For sure. But think about a player in that type of a mold, you know, guys that are free agent, you know, like I'm not saying the Mavericks are interested in these players, but you look at the four threes that are out there in the market. Austin Reeves.

A guy like Draymond Green, Jeremy Grant, Harrison Barnes. Those are the types of four threes that if you're Dallas, you can get your hands on a defender, two-way player. You have to look at that. I think that's what this NBA Finals is showcasing to me, the dumbass that watches the NBA. Like, hey, teams matter. You know what I mean?

These teams matter. The depth of teams really matter. And I think we kind of all get caught up in, like, where are the superstars, the big three, the big two, the big this, the big that. It's like the rest of that roster really matters. You've been saying that for a long time. That's why the moves that L.A. made at the trade deadline was such a big deal to get them into the playoffs, ultimately not being able to beat this Nuggets team. Man. Ooh, there it goes. Sposter got real pissed last night, though, whenever he was such a big deal to get them into the playoffs, ultimately not being able to beat this Nuggets team. Man.

Ooh, there it goes. And Spolster got real pissed last night, though, whenever he was asked a question about, you know, what do you do? You just let Joker score. Don't let him do this. That is such a dumb fucking thought is what Spolster said. Yep.

But I love what's happening for the NBA in this finals. Connor has a question for you, Sean. Yeah, Sean, speaking of the finals, is there a chance we see Tyler Hero playing this week, or do you think that maybe they kind of keep him on the bench, don't have him start because of how well they're playing without him?

Yeah, I think this is a very, very interesting dynamic, very interesting question. At the end of the day, none of us are going to be able to decide this. This is going to be on Eric Spolster to figure out, and I think you have to trust Eric Spolster. He's going to make the right decision. Think about this. If Tyler Hewitt doesn't get hurt in game one against the Bucs in the first round, Duncan Robinson probably isn't playing. Last night, 10 points in the fourth quarter, two threes, four or five from the field,

and he's been hooping for the heat in this series so far. Last series, he's making shots. the heat in in this series so far last series he's making shots max streus had an off game one played very well game two started off the game i think four of seven from three point range so he's he's shooting the ball well gating from the logo caleb martin he's i mean chucking uh he's he's sniping i mean he's he's he's dialed in right now and shooters like that you have to have a lot of confidence and you know jimmy buzzer is in there you're And shooters like that, you have to have a lot of confidence in. You know Jimmy Butler is in there. You're telling him, shoot as much as you can. Get those shots up. And having your best player give you that confidence, it goes a long way.

So if you're Miami, now listen, is Tyler Hero on track to potentially return in game three? I believe that's what the Miami Heat are hopeful of. That's what they think. Do they give him another game to figure out? Like, listen, if we lose game three, it might be easier to bring it back in game four i think winning game two gives you a little bit of pause and you have to think about a little bit more but even if even if tyler here is available to play i don't know if you can just say you're going to start or you're going to be guaranteed minutes because there are these guys that have been on this run all the way to the nba

finals that have solidified their role is tyler here all right with what jack harlow did to him in boston good question i mean listen i i don't know what they have going um you know obviously there was a song made uh about about tyler yeah in the past so there there might be a relationship there that exists you know friendship that allows you know that that type of discourse. Oh, so you think because there was a song, he's allowed to show up in Boston Celtics jackets?

I don't think so. He's sitting five doors down from the guy you wrote a song about? I don't think so. Might have been to curse the Celtics, though. The bad friend. Did you guys see his post about Kyle Lowry, when Kyle Lowry ran into him? Did you guys see that? Who, Jack Harlow's?

Yeah, yeah. He made a post when Kyle Lowry landed on him. What did he say? Something about Kyle Lowry. We got to pull it up. I thought he just said Kyle Lowry's got a huge pooper. Yeah, something like he's got a nice butt or something like that. Jack Harlow said that?

Yeah, dump him for the ages. While he was wearing the Celtics thing? Yeah, and that's why got a nice butt or something like that. Jack Harlow said that? Yeah, dumper for the ages. While he was wearing the Celtics thing? Yeah, and that's why I think him and the hero are friends. I've met Jack Harlow before. Really nice dude. He's definitely plugged in on the NBA. So we got to invite him on the show. He's got to speak to... Every time he goes on shows,

he kind of stinks. You know what I mean? Every time he goes on shows, he stinks. But I've been told he has great personality and he's funny and all that stuff. like every time he goes on shows he stinks but i've been told he has great personality and he's funny and all that stuff but every time i see him on tv i think to myself like this dude's like the NBA maybe it's the NBA he's got to speak about me and him we did a show together he was he was the greatest thing he did the greatest thing he did he was on first take this is the funny because everybody tells me how funny he is. This guy.

Funny guy. Hilarious guy. Beloved guy. Everything. And then every time I see him on TV, he's not like that at all. It's like, okay, I get it. It must be behind the scenes, and I'm not seeing the right stuff, I guess, of this guy. He was on first take promoting White Men Can't Jump, and they told a story.

Vince Carter comes in. Vince Carter then tells a story about the guy that he dunked on in that uh international game where he jumped over that guy about how that like ruined that guy's life vince carter's like yeah that guy like committed suicide or tried to commit suicide two times and then he was working at like walmart and then he all comes back and jack harley goes jeez way to suck the oxygen out of the room. And I laughed big pop. I was like, all right. So that's probably, that's probably what he's like when he's not on it. Cause a lot of the interviews I watch, he seems to not say a single thing, but then you listen to some of his songs.

Like his dude obviously has incredible amount of swag and talent. So you're friends with this guy and you're saying him and Tyler Eero are good. You're saying him and Jack Harlow and Tyler are good. To my knowledge knowledge but you know we might have to confirm that and honestly has he been in a setting have you seen him just talk about hoops about the NBA? First take I think he was

I think it was like kind of a setup for that Well listen if me and you if you're interviewing him I think he's got to bring the A game so you know I think he. I don't mean shit. This guy's in White Men Can't Jump. I'm just saying everything everybody says about him is how awesome he is. And every time I see him in the sports world, he was on game day.

Game day was. Game day was. Every time he's coming to our world, it's like, okay. And then we move on. Big Celtics fan like Boston Connor Him and Boston Connor That's the funny part I don't know if anyone knew that

What that he was a Celtics fan I love it if he is though If he actually is He's got sweet hair I mean that guy on the right Has got a fucking awesome goatee If he knows that guy That's certainly a, that guy on the right's got a fucking awesome goatee if he knows that guy. Yeah, I mean, that's certainly a Boston guy there to the right.

That guy to the right has no idea what type of music Jack makes. That's a wicked jacket. I don't want to judge anybody just by looking at him, but looking at that guy, no shot he's listened to any of the music that Jack Harlow has put out. Not at all. But they both are here for good basketball. That's right. That's all they're here for. Speaking of good basketball, there's a great

basketball player who the conversation around him is never about basketball. That's all they're here for. Speaking of good basketball, there's a great basketball player who the conversation around him is never about basketball. Ty, I have a question for you. Yeah, Shams, based on Adam Silver's press conference when he was talking about John, you know, that punishment will come after the playoffs. It seemed like this was going to be more the harsh route than it is just like

a, hey, he's learned from it. We'll give him a couple games. Now that it's been a couple weeks, do you know anything more? Do you have any idea what kind of suspension we're looking at for John Morant? Listen, I think shortly after the NBA Finals, the league is going to announce something. What is it, Choms? Come on, Choms.

You know what it is. I wish I knew. Yes, you do. If I knew, you guys know I would say it probably first on the show, right? So I would give you guys that courtesy. You do a range game. They haven't even spoken to John Moran on the suspension yet. I don't believe they've informed the PA exactly what the suspension is going to be. At the end of the day, this is Adam Silver, Joe Dumar's call.

Those are the people that are going to be, along with the rest of the league office, they're going to be – and at the end of the day, it falls on Adam Silver. These suspensions, last time when John Moran got suspended eight games that was an adam silver decision uh he met with john moran john moran told him you know i understand this won't happen again he does it again and so i think adam silver's comments what i took from them is like him admitting we've done most of all of the investigation and some of the killer you know aspects to figure out like some of the things that really killed this investigation are um you know sorry for that term yeah yeah i didn't know what else he found out

i mean we had aaron some of the things they did say they unearthed more stuff yeah they said there's more information right that is then has been released what is what does that mean well killer well i i look back i look back i, I look back at some of the prior comments that Adam Silver has made. When he made comments during the draft combine at the lottery, he said, we need to figure out, was the gun his? Was this video edited? There were bare-bone facts that they had to confirm at that point.

So we'll see. We've unearthed more information. We have confirmed that was Ja dancing with his thing. That was, we have confirmed that. That has not been confirmed anywhere else. We have confirmed that on that live video when you saw the pistol

in his hand, it was Ja. It was Ja. It was Ja. But it was the guy who was filming him. The guy who filmed him actually said, Hey, Ja, hold this. And then he tried to kill him, set him up, tried to ruin his entire life there.

I mean. Like how? How does that even happen within two months of each other? Ja, catch. Gotcha. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who's throwing the gun? Allegedly, Ja did unfollow that guy on Instagram.

Oh. If this guy goes live with me on a gun, I don't want to see it on my timeline. That's right. I'm out. I'm unfollowing this guy. All right. I hope Jha figures it out. We all do because what a fucking superstar.

Beast. When I think about how much you suspend him, like, I don't, like, 50 games, whole season. Like, Gilbert Reynos was don't like 50 games whole season like gilbert arenas was essentially suspended around 50 games and he brought guns multiple guns to a locker room to an nba arena so you think about this situation is this equate to 50 games probably not so is this half of that so half that puts you at 25 25 too harsh did you ever find out what the plot was for that game that gilbert arenas was either owed money for did we did harsh? Did you ever find out what the plot was for that Bure game that Gilbert Arenas

was either owed money for? Did you guys ever find that out in the NBA media? I have to go back and think. I was maybe I was 10, 11 when that, 12 when that happened.

I thought you were committed to the game. Loving lunch. had to have been, had to have been in the millions though, had to have been in the millions. You're not bringing guns in for like, you know, like several millions, right?

Like you're not just bringing in guns for like 300 K. So I've heard of pots like that are multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars and people that have lost a million over a season in pot matching card games like boo ray is which we would assume is what was being played there i don't know if that ever officially came out or not but yeah it had to get to a point where gilbert was like i'm fucking done with this that's it you owe me money bro we are going to do it there's some people that are like that there's some people that are like ah all right let's figure this out i'll take a watch and we'll just kind of keep it moving or whatever.

We don't condone it. We don't condone it, but you're right. It does happen. All professional sports had to answer it whenever Gilbert Arenas did this. Like, gambling in NFL locker rooms became, like, super not allowed to do this. Not that it had been happening, obviously. Sure, sure, sure. Nobody would do that.

Super competitive people who play cards who have a lot of money would never do that against each other. No, why would you? Especially if you're in the same area for like eight hours at a time, nine hours at a time. But it came across all leagues. Like, hey, this Gilbert Arena situation can't be happening anywhere else. I assume the John Morant situation is crossing into other

leagues as well about how to not do things, and hopefully John will be able to learn from it. Last question here from ToneDig Shams. Yes,ams uh reported that monty williams who's going to be the new head coach of the detroit pistons could earn up to a hundred million dollars do they have to pay him that because detroit stinks and that was the only way to get him to accept that coaching job well i think there are a few factors here one was was Monty Williams. He had told Detroit several of their teams that he was not planning on coaching this year. So Detroit had to really go all out to get him to decide to coach. And I think he looked at that situation.

Tom Gores, Troy Weaver, the owner and the GM, they made intense pursuits to go get him. And money at the end of the day, richest coaching contract in NBA history. This is a guy who's going to be making more than most NBA players next season. He's in a power position right now in Detroit. He's going to be able to build out his staff the way he wants, the roster the way he wants. And, yes, it's a six-year deal on its face, guaranteed upwards of $78 million. Wow.

$72 million. Either way, in the 70s. If you're seven and eight get exercise, guys, $100 million for a head coach in the NBA, $100 million. And so when you think about it, Steve Kerr is going into the last year of his deal. If you're Steve Kerr, you've won four championships. How much money do you ask for? $150.

$15, $16, $17, $18 million per year? A lot. So it'll be very interesting to see how this impacts the coaching market, but there's no doubt. You're Detroit. This is a young team. Yes, there's some talent there, and I really do believe this is the perfect situation for Montee Williams.

He's a leader of men. This is a young group of talented guys that need someone like him in the locker room. So I think it's a match made, fit in heaven and he got the bag yeah absolutely got the bag good for him good for detroit too oh yeah indycar was in detroit this past weekend they had to fill 291 potholes through the uh through the track they did though they did put on a great race doesn't surprise me at all they got a hundred million dollar fucking coach now for the pistons let's talk about the other team now frank vogel is now with the suns here we go frank's about to win it all with these two.

And how many other teams wanted Frank? Because it feels like, I don't want to say Frank got kind of wrong. He did. It feels like Frank kind of got, to be frank, fucked. You know what I mean? Like kind of in that whole situation. Great basketball coach, though. Phoenix has got to be pumped about it.

I'm not going to say he got, you know know He's getting a $31.25 million Deal over five years You know Frank Vogel also got the bag He didn't get the big bag But he got a bag He's won a championship He's won a championship in 2020

With the Lakers and I think you look at a guy like him He coached your Pacers Paul George Two Eastern Conference Finals in 2013-14 Then he goes and coaches Paul the lakers and i think you look at a guy like him he coached your pacers paul george two eastern conference finals in 2013-14 then he goes and coaches paul uh then he goes and coaches lebron james anthony davis in la they win a championship so he's shown that when he has star players he can have some success you know some some great success now in phoenix he gets kevin durant devin booker he's a guy that's known as a defensive-minded coach, detail-oriented coach. So I think when you look at it, he's going to have those guys ready to play. And Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, it's not like those guys are demanding stars, guys that are

really direct, aggressive with their coaches. They want to be coached the right way, detail-oriented, told the game plan, rotations, adjustments. That's all in Frank Bogle's wheelhouse. And I think we're going to see him and the Suns try to have a very good coaching staff around him as well. Frank, $31 million. Monty, $100 million. Frank's resume, obviously

much vaster, grander. That's a $69 million Detroit you're living in today. You're in Phoenix. Is that a city tax? I don't know, Pat. You break it down for me. It feels like it.

Certainly. From Phoenix. Now, shout out to Detroit. Hey, 291 potholes are filled. Hey, we got our guy. Things are growing up. Team looks good. Detroit's getting better.

Here we go. The Lions are fucking. I think it's an amazing hire. I think amazing hire. Patsy Williams. He's going to have Kate Cunningham, Jalen Duren, Killian Hayes. He's going to have those guys. Yeah, Killian Hayes.

Number five pick this year. Ivy. They're going to have those guys ready to – he's going to have them ready to play. They're going to improve under Mottie Williams. I can't wait. And I assume some superstars will want to go play for Monty too in Detroit. So good for Detroit to make an entire change. Last question here.

Expansion teams, not until after something was just kind of announced. How many cities are really in conversation there and how do you see that kind of panning out? And do they have similar rules as the NHL for expansion drafts and teams having a chance at being successful quick? For instance, Las Vegas Golden Knights, one of the

most recent expansion teams, like six years ago, they immediately went to the finals in the first year because who you're able to draft an expansion draft and how the nhl wants you to have success quick is the nba in a similar fashion setup and how do you see the expansion situation going situation so when when when yeah expansionship companionship expansionship um when when when uh when the raptors were an expansion team in Toronto in the 90s, they had an expansion draft.

B.J. Armstrong, I think, went from Chicago at that point to Toronto. So there's history there. When there's a new team, they have an expansion draft, potentially pluck different guys from different teams. So could I see that for sure? I don't think an expansion team in the NBA is necessarily imminent. Like, do I think it happens this summer?

I, I, I, I haven't gotten that sense. Now could it happen in three to five years? Is Vegas, Seattle? I do believe Vegas,

Vegas is very, very high on the list. Seattle, very, very high on the list. So if I had to, if I had to project it out, which cities would,

would, would be there for first dibs here we go in in you know any any which order this isn't in the order of which i believe it like vegas seattle for sure lebron james he's come out recently uh in the last year so he's talked about how he wants to be the owner of the vegas team like he's i'm sure already has some grand plans he's probably already working on all this behind the scenes. And so if he's going to retire potentially in two, three years, that does line up, you know, in a potential timeframe. Tom Brady owns a team in Vegas.

LeBron owns a team in Vegas. What a come up for a city that wasn't allowed to have professional sports for so long because remember it'd be corrupted. What a time to be alive. Thank you so much, Shams, for joining us. Who's winning this? Who's winning it? Pat, you know, whatever I predict, usually the opposite happens when it comes to be alive. Thank you so much, Shams, for joining us. Who's winning this? Who's winning it? Pat, you know, whatever I predict, usually the opposite happens

when it comes to these games. I just won a great series. I really feel like after game one, I told people I thought Miami found something. I really believe they got the hearts of champions. They might not win this year, but they have grit. They tough it out. They never quit. But Denver, I'm confident going into game three if I'm Denver.

Okay. Down there in Miami. You know, I was kind of piecing this together before the show, literally as the show was kind of starting. Everybody talks about training at altitude, you know, 5,280. If you look at the way the fourth quarters have gone, maybe we need to be training in a swamp. Oh.

You know, in humidity. Mud, right? Where it's just super-duper thick. Yeah. Because Miami's going to be hot. Miami's going to be training in a swamp. In humidity. Super duper thick. Miami's going to be hot. Miami's going to be hot. Miami heat. Yeah. It's going to be white hot.

He talked about cutting the AC. Now, Pat, I will never forget the 2014 NBA Finals in San Antonio. Miami, Spurs, Game 1. LeBron James was cramping up late in the game. The AC was literally off in the arena. I was there. I was wearing a nice, you know, at that point, untailored suit, but a nice suit.

And I was sweating. Everyone in there was sweating. It was crazy. Yeah, you had a cheap-ass suit on. I remember that because LeBron was, ah! And in the back, there was this little tiny fellow with a shitty suit on. And that was the big takeaway from the night, if I do recall. That was piss yellow.

Shitty suit from that guy? Look at him now. Man. Who's the one that turned the AC off? Like, there needs to be an investigation. So, San Antone hot, right? Miami hot. Super hot.

And then you turn off the AC. So what, they thought that LeBron was in good shape? If you turn off the AC in Miami, I think they would probably have to cancel the game. They need to just, why didn't they just pump IVs in him? Yeah, pretty quick. Have him wear those backpacks. That'd be sweet. While he's playing.

Exactly. With the straw in his mouth. All right, Choms, run it up the ladder. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Choms, you're on. What did we learn there? Vegas, Seattle. In his mouth. All right, Choms, run it up the ladder. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Choms, you're on. Here we go. What did we learn there? Vegas, Seattle.

Those are the two cities basically running for an expansion squad. I learned that a bunch of potholes got filled. 291 of them, yeah. I believe that was said on the race. That's absurd. I mean. I would have thought 2,000. They're going through the city. Seriously.

They were going through the city. I didn't know they had roads in Detroit. Come on, guys. Yeah, I thought it was just like. Detroit's a nice city. I didn't know they had roads in Detroit. Come on, guys. I thought it was just like... Detroit's a nice city. Downtown is nice, okay? It did look beautiful during the race. That's the first time they've had the race downtown in quite some time, right?

Yeah, normally it's off on an island somewhere. That's what I thought. Yeah, they had it downtown, so we went through there. I got to watch it a little bit. Did our guy win? Nah. Top 10, though, I think. I thought they put up a bunch of those wooden buildings like they have

in North Korea that aren't real, but they make them look nice in the whole city. Oh, like at the World Cup. Bingo. That wasn't like that. Alex Palo won. The guy that was on the pole for the Indy 500 won the race. It's up for stopping one again.

Never would have guessed. People watch that, huh? I don't get it. I just don't get it. I'm going to cover stop in one again. What else? Never would have guessed. People watch that, huh? What do we do? Maybe I'm just too, I don't get it. I just don't get it. This is like super fancy food. Like when I go eat super fancy food, and I need 15 meals to fill me up, first of all.

Like how, is anybody eating that for real? So small. Like give me five of these. You need a bigger portion. Five of these. And then you eat it, and it's like, I don't know if this was worth it. I guess there's some that have been good in my past,

but I'm like too basic of a palate. I think I'm too dumb for a lot of things. F1, one of them, I feel like I just don't get why people like it. I've just learned that, I mean, F1 for sure, like those races, I don't think, and then you hear people say it's a manufacturer sport, so it's like, okay, well, how much are the people driving actually doing that if the mechanics are really the ones who are kind of the stars of the show? I think that's in every racing.

The car certainly matters. I thought so, too, but I just realized I don't care what kind of racing it is. It just doesn't interest me. I just don't care at all. IndyCar, NASCAR, F1. No, I watch horse racing. That's different because the races are two minutes. And yeah, if they don't win...

I mean, that's high stakes. It is. These horses are running for their fucking lives. I just don't know how... Do they have races right now? I don't know. Seems like a very novel thing to do. Would you enjoy NASCAR more if they blew the car up afterwards

if it didn't win? So NASCAR had like 11 delays maybe yesterday in their race. Kyle Busch ended up winning, obviously. He was right. But they had like 11 delays I think for rain yesterday. Are the horses right now dying of Churchill's Downs because

of the Canadian wildfires and their smoke is coming down? Well, we would have to give our horse expert, Bruce, who pulls answers out of horses' asses just to kind of do his thing there. But I will say, the Canadian wildfires... It's not a joke. There's a lot of timber.

In Indy, there's an air problem in Indy. I guess we can't even breathe because of the smoke coming in. They're not supposed to. Everybody put your masks on. That's right. We need to be one of them M5s or whatever. The actual masks. The construction masks.

N95. N95. There it is. I need N95 masks on everybody from Indianapolis to Boston. They're saying. Oh, yeah. That's what the, because of the fires up there. I didn't check this morning.

Are we still on an air quality alert? Yes. We're back this morning. So we're off a couple of days. I don't know what happened. Maybe wind change. But we're back in it. Al Roker said from India. He's wearing a three-piece suit. He looked real good what happened. Maybe wind change. But we're back in it. Al Roker said, he's wearing a

3P suit. He looked real good. He said, from Indianapolis to Boston, pretty much, there is a full air quality thing going on. So we hope everybody in Canada is okay. And also, everybody in America breathing their air. And the horses. We're currently a moderate warning for the air quality.

They have stages. Yeah, I believe there's extreme don't breathe outside yellow in the air it's not i can feel it hold on up there i was watching one of those planes fly by with a little p shooter thing that stopped the fire yep we're wasting the juice oh no they dumped that thing in and it disappeared and that fire just grew stronger almost it's like i feel like we should save the juice it feels like it's a little bit too strong right now let's not be dumping little

and then going all the way back and then doing it again. I don't know anything about stopping forest fires. Sure. But I do know what I watched wasn't seemingly the case. Why don't we have fighter jets with missiles that have water inside of it? I don't know. Every time I see that video of that one China fighter jet doing its little whirlybird right in front of our surveillance thing. Listen, that freaks me out a little bit. Oh, they're doing it in the sea now, too.

Yeah, but they're not doing whirlybirds. They're just going, hey, if we walk like, but they're not doing whirlybirds. They're just going, hey, if we walk like this, they're like, if we walk like this and you run into me, you start a fight, not me. Not our fault. That's kind of what they were, I guess, in the water doing. Exactly. Seems like things are getting real serious. It's not good.

We don't need to dive into that. We need to remind them. All right, Tony. Well, some things are getting real serious, too. Let's talk about it. I concur on that. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You saw the Times article, right? Huh? need to remind them all right well something's getting real serious let's talk about it i i concur on that hell yeah hell yeah you saw the times article right huh what's that with the alien oh what's the alien that there is uh some very real concrete evidence that they're withholding

from everybody the new york times posted this yeah i believe it's a real deal right yeah i believe it was a times article they got their they got their hands on some whistleblower. A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the intelligence community, Inspector General, extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved, intact, impartially intact craft of non-human origin. The information, he says, has been illegally withheld from Congress, and he filed a complaint alleging that he suffered illegal retaliation for his confidential disclosures reported here for the first time other intelligence officials both active and retired with knowledge of these programs

through their work in various agencies have independently provided similar corroborating information both on and off the record this is the new york times uh i will i don't know what this is not the new york times this This is the tweet that had this piece in it was referencing this is the largest expose since the New York Times article in 2017. This is from the debrief.org. Oh. Hey, it's an org.

All right. It's an org. There's an org. It's an org. It's not a dot com. No. So this is Area 51. Interesting.

Yeah, depending upon what you think Area 51 is. But yeah, this would be crazy if we just found one all of a sudden. Imagine if one just kind of hopping out. When's the election? 2024. Next year. Gas prices are going to go like this real quick out of nowhere

and then all of a sudden... Man. I've been here the whole time. So awesome. And one of them, I'd assume it would be Biden. Guy with the ears. Listen, I get along with these guys. Everybody's talking about what's going on in Russia, China. You should see my relationship with these fucking people.

They don't care if I fall anywhere. They just kind of talk to me or whatever, man. Trot one out on stage. Just bring one out. If gas prices drop down, can we buy a tanker for the parking lot? Yeah, certainly put it in the comment box. I don't know if we need to keep that much gas around here, especially with everybody

calling us sellouts these days. 5-Hour Energy, 1-833-432-3663. 1-833-432-3663. Can I wait to chat and catch up with whoever makes it through on the line? Obviously, Mitt will be answering those calls back in his hole. He is in a great mood today.

Dressed very well. Fuckboy City, he said, basically. What did he say? Fuckboy City. He said City Boys up. Thank you, Dirty. Congrats on the baby, Dirty. It hasn't been born, but it has been conceived. Congratulations.

The Bills have broken ground on a new stadium called Highmark Stadium, set to open in 2026. Goodell was in attendance. I believe we'll be talking to Brandon Bean, general manager of the Buffalo Bills, 2.30 Eastern Standard Time. He was at the ribbon-cutting, the groundbreaking ceremony this morning, where they will be building a brand-new stadium, which means a Super Bowl will be going to Buffalo, New York.

$850 million New York is helping in taxpayer money, while Buffalo Beals will kind of pay for the rest. It looks like it is going to be majestic and magical, and the Bills Mafia deserve a brand new home. They have shown up whenever the team wasn't great. They have shown up when the weather has been impossible. They are the depiction of what you want NFL fandom to look like. They're getting a brand-new home, as are the Buffalo Beals. Congrats to them. 2026 is not that far away. Obviously, three years is a long time.

Of course. Still have Josh Allen, though. Still have that entire team. Still have McDermott there. Still have Bean there. We'll talk to him in the third hour. Can't wait for that. And next hour, we'll have Baron Corbin joining us.

Oh, hell yeah. Happy Corbin. Yeah, Baron Corbin no longer happy. Is he still a piece of shit? He's not bum-ass. Still a piece of shit, for sure. He was at the big slick fundraising event in Kansas City this past weekend where we saw stars like Weird Al Yankovic

and Paul Rudd and Jay Sudd and Eric Stonestreet and Patrick Mahomes did a behind-the-back thing. And Baron Corbin was there as a journalist. I don't think he was actually there. We'll ask him. They raised $3.5 million this weekend.

He's seen it all. Can't wait to chat with him. And what has he been up to since I beat him at SummerSlam? Suck it. Loser. All right, let's get to a break. A.J. Hawk will join us on the other side. Pretty packed little Monday here. Yeah, not bad. Pretty packed little Monday. It's a lot of sports this weekend. A lot a break. A.J. Hawk will join us on the other side. Pretty packed little Monday here.

Yeah, not bad. Pretty packed little Monday. It's a lot of sports this weekend. A lot of sports. It's sweet. Good sports. Right now, I also just saw the Oklahoma women's softball team. Tag up.

Two outs. Or one out. Fly ball. Boom. Tag up. Second to third. Third home. Now it's 2-2, I do believe.

Softball's sweet. Stanford, Oklahoma getting after it. A lot of intensity. I try third. Third home. Now it's 2-2, I do believe. Softball's sweet. Stanford, Oklahoma getting after a lot of intensity. I tried to watch college baseball. Clemson, Tennessee went to 15 innings. Yeah. Crazy. That was tough. And they booted that kid.

Have you seen the ejections that have been happening? No. So I think the Clemson in that game, it was either the 12th or 13th inning. Some second baseman, they were talking shit, kicked him out. And then I think it was Indiana. Some kid hit a home run. Indiana State. Oh, Indiana also played. some second baseman they were talking shit kicked him out and then i think it was indiana some kid hit a home run indiana state indiana also played indiana got a kid who kicked got kicked out because dude hits a home run whole team celebrating they have like a home run chain kid brings chain like

couple steps out of the dugout to put on the kid who hit the home run that kid got kicked out this is bullshit well this is just like high school football referees. Yeah. Exactly. They have a lot to say. Sometimes that particular power isn't supposed to be in everybody's hands. It sounds like some of these baseball arms need to fucking chill out. Relax. We get it. Okay. Hey! Hey!

Let baseball be fun. Also, the way they have it set up, I think they only have one crew and they're doing multiple games in a day. You have certain guys that are hot as hell, umping 18 innings. Miserable. Yeah, you just can't do that. So Iowa yesterday, one in the morning, and then it was double elimination,

so they had to play again at night. And you could tell everyone was just – no one wanted to be out there. That's so much baseball in one day. There was not a lot of energy whenever I was watching a baseball game. I tried to. Kirk Herbstreet was texting me. I was like, yo, there's a Stanley Cup game on right now. Come on.

Hey, Herbie. There's a fucking Stanley Cup final game. Stanley Cup finals, man. Okay, there's a good game, too. Not just a game. He's like, going to 11, going to 12. I'm like, Herbie, enough. Well, that's the thing, too.

If you don't like the MLB, you really will not like watching college baseball because they nuked all the bats so guys don't hit massive homers anymore. And there are just so many walks, so many hit-by-pitches. The games last forever. 15 innings. Softball is sweet, though. Softball is electric. Awesome.

They get jacked up. Dude, and it's so fast. It is. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. Holy shit. Like a throwout at first is always close. Dude, and it's so fast. It is. Holy shit. She's got, like a throw out at first is always close. Like every single time, just a

grounder, wherever, it's always going to be close at first. Absolute rocket. Yeah. Ball's coming through this one. Oh yeah. The riser. They throw hard. It's crazy. And they're like 45 feet away. That's why every single time we watch a softball

World Series or whatever, we're like, this is awesome. And then we don't. College basketball. Women's college basketball. Is that what you're talking about? I said lacrosse. Same thing with lacrosse. Yeah, we did, after our conversation with the Cavanaughs last week,

Pat mostly, Chris in the back, but Chris did drop in and was a photographer. They're in Germany right now. We sent a couple beers to the boys' con, and we vented some money over to Tevlin to buy them some local beers over there. We got a chance to catch up on our show from over the years. When I told Kavanaugh, you know what, we're going to get into it, I have said that every two years since 2011 on my Twitter account. I've always said, I like lacrosse. Lacrosse is awesome. Like this weekend it was on, couldn't watch it.

Guy did this thing. I was watching it. I just got caught up. I went somewhere else. I don't know why. I'm trying my best because it seems like a fucking great sport. It is. We'll get into it.

Yeah, we will. We're going to get into it. This is the year. And joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner but not a champion, but he is the champion of the state of Ohio

who just had the Memorial Golf Tournament about four minutes from his house. The only reason why we know that is because his house has been used as an Airbnb from some big-time golfers. This man was the number five overall pick. He's been rich forever. Old, old CBA.

Ladies and gentlemen, father of 10, COVID survivor A.J. Hawk. Hell yeah, A.J. How you doing, pal? Doing great. I'm sorry to hear about your guys' little lungs hurting because there's some fires going on. We don't have that in Ohio that I know of. No, yeah, I think you are a part of it as well,

and our lungs are just fine. Thanks for asking. I hope everybody over there is okay, too. Yeah, we're doing great. We weren't worried about it, I guess. Except the horses. Oh, okay. Listen.

There's some other stuff that happened in Ohio that I think the air quality was already doing pretty terrible. Oh, yeah. The train. Train derailment. I forgot about that. Did you hear the train while Jordan Spieth was over a putt? No.

It was awesome. It was like one of the most Midwestern Ohio things that could happen this weekend. Jordan Spieth over a putt, literally. And then right before he's about to, and he goes, Jesus. And he actually stands up, do a little bit of a pop, a little bit of a pop from the crowd, and then he gets back over top of it. I don't remember if it was Friday or Saturday, but Ohio was an incredible host. Did you see how deep it was on the 18th green whenever Victor Hovland got that win?

There was humans everywhere. Is it like that every single year in Dublin, Ohio? Is that where it is? Yeah, it's in Dublin. I don't know the exact numbers compared to other years, but I was watching when the leaders teed off on Sunday, it was like 10 deep. Normally, I don't

know. Usually, Tiger obviously has giant, giant, massive galleries that follow him around, but yeah, there was a ton of people. It was the first time it didn't downpour and have to really delay too much. Usually, there's always some kind of issues with thunderstorms and stuff. Yeah, because we're in spring you know and four season climates potentially are tough to predict i mean that is certainly something that could take place may june but

it's just viewed as like hey let's go get fucked up at a golf course in ohio is that kind of how it's viewed because i saw i saw about 30 of the same dudes oh yeah they had these polos on you know and every single one of them was holding some sort of beer or whatever. And I'm like, that seems like a great event. Is that what it's kind of marketed as? Yeah, I mean, that's what it is. One big party. I had no idea.

And then I went when I was in college, and I'm like, this is amazing. We went, and I was there 10 hours and didn't watch one shot of live golf. I saw some golf from the garages of the houses. That's the thing. You see all the people there, but a lot of those people that live on or around the course have these big parties and you can stop by or whatever. Like that's where there's even probably the same amount of people are back

off in those yards and in people's houses. So I wonder if, you know, whenever, when we were growing up, there were some families, don't mind, they would ring a bell when everybody was outside and he'd be like, Hey, get your ass back up. Right. Okay. That was kind of.

Now, granted, Sally and Tim said, you can go do whatever you got to do. You have to be at school the next morning, though. So I kind of learned, you know, the pros and cons of different night activities and everything like that. Is it like that at the tournament, though? Like, hey, tournament's about to end.

Ring the bell. Everybody out of the fucking houses. Need you guys to come show face around the green, okay? And it was vast. Great scene there. Will it ever become a major? No. Will it ever host a major?

No. I mean, no. The only thing is PGA is what moves around in the U.S. Open. But I don't know. I've never thought about that. I guess because there is a memorial, they don't have any things like that where it's a regular tour stop that they make a major one year, do they? I don't know.

I think they should be very proud of the turnout. Oh like has a golf scene yeah it was awesome sweet it was awesome deal around here the course is sweet too they just redid i think they closed the course for a full year and open it up i don't know when like i think he changed a bunch of stuff see that's the difference between some courses and then like augusta yeah yeah augusta built like four new holes in like 90 days or something right they're to just flip it, put some trees in there obviously some of them did not survive the last tournament but that is like normal golf course stuff like alright we're going to shut this down

for a year, we're going to change this thing and Augusta somehow allegedly they just well they're never open they just basically host the tournament, they're only open for certain parts of the year they got it figured out that's a good racket and so does Mirafield apparently because that was a great tournament, I enjoyed watching it certain parts of the year. They got it figured out. That's a good racket. Yep. They got it figured out. And so does Mirafield, apparently, because that was a great tournament.

I enjoyed watching it. Congrats to Victor Hovland. He'll be joining us on Wednesday. Did he stay at your house? He did not, but he's here caddying for his buddy on the U.S. Open qualifier. I know that. Literally day after winning it is caddying for a friend. What a guy.

I mean, how do you celebrate? 36 holes. 36 holes. Two, man. In one day. Yeah, to qualify. That's the one. What a guy. I mean, how do you celebrate? 36 holes. 36 holes, too, man. In one day. Yeah, to qualify. That's the one. Two different courses. You got to go two different courses.

One on full swing, yeah. Yeah, Joel Damon. Did a couple white claws. Yeah, White Claw City. Changed it up. I got a five under on his second 18 here. Let me go ahead and have a couple white claws. Gets himself into a fucking major.

Was Memorial last year? Was this last year or like six years ago when the fucking cicadas were just everywhere? I think last year. It happens like every, how many years is that? 20 years. When I was in college, I remember it happening because I remember the guys eating them. What?

Excuse me? Yeah. We used to, you know, pay like, hey, I bet you 10 bucks you won't eat one. The slags ate like 15 of them. All right. Yeah. How much? I need a new pair of work boots, actually.

Who all wants to get in this? 50 bucks? 20 a cicada. 50 bucks, alright. What will you give me? 10? Alright, I'll do 10. Alright. I need 15 of you. I need 150 bucks tonight. Alright, let's talk about some sports stuff happening around the NFL. The Buffalo Beals have broke some ground

on a brand new stadium. I thought it was a renovation and then I guess I just misremembered. They're building a brand-new fucking stadium. Going to be open in 2026. Goodell was there. Bean was there. The whole operation was there. Seems like it's a big to-do, as it should be.

This means they're going to have a Super Bowl, I think. Congrats to Bill's Mafia and the Buffalo Beals, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, okay, so how close is this to their current stadium? Do we have any idea? They said it's in the same city, Orchard Park. Yeah, I think it's right next to them. It looks amazing.J. Hawk. How close is this to their current stadium? Do we have any idea? They said it's in the same city. Orchard Park. I think it's right next to it. It looks beautiful. I assume they're going to have a lot of suites in there

so they can get a little bit more money out of people that maybe don't want to sit in the foot of snow potentially outside. Much of the modern stadiums kind of have that kind of built into it somewhere. Bill's Mafia has earned this. Granted, a lot of taxpayer money, but that is kind of how business it somewhere. But Bills Mafia has earned this. Now, granted, a lot of taxpayer money, but that is kind of how business goes these days.

I assume the Buffalo Beals will try to pay this off as soon as possible because the more money that you put into the stadium, the more money you benefit from events that happen at the stadium. Shout out to the Minnesota Vikings taking care of that like 26 years earlier or something like that just a week ago. And speaking of new stadiums, we talk about the Beals and how great that is and how they have broken earlier or something like that just a week ago and speaking of new stadiums we talk about the Beals and how great that is and how they have broken ground and everything like that Chicago is not happening like that oh no Chicago Bears seemingly inevitable

move from Soldier Field to Arlington Heights has taken a massive turn the Arlington Heights plan is at risk after a new tax assessment dispute, and the team has entered separate talks with Napierville. That's from Front Office Sports, a company that I threatened to buy a couple years ago. After Napierville, sorry about that. After a tweet from Kevin McCarthy, I believe was the guy's name. Yeah, that was the one. Thought he was coming at me sideways. It had gotten settled.

Front Office Sports seems to dig into all this type of stuff. Great follow. Whenever this popped up, I did not expect it. I thought we were going did not expect it i thought we were going to arlington i thought we're going to be the arlington bears zito tells me though this naperville place is a little bit more high end so whenever arlington potentially does a little fuckery and just has one little slip up wherever they agreed to something and then a tax change like well actually you guys will be paying tax on every single car that's parked here or you you'll be paying this or this whole thing. It gives the Bears potentially an opportunity to go somewhere else and be like, hey, were you thinking about me?

We already proved that we would move. So if you have hesitancy that we wouldn't move, we will move. Interesting, because they're trying to buy up the whole thing. Hotels, plaza, stadium, casino, kind of the wave of the future, what everybody's trying to do. Now it's kind of in doubt. Interesting. It's a long road to get an agreement to do a multi-billion dollar construction site and it seems like they're starting back over AJ I would say there's a lot of red tape you got to fight through when you want to try to get something like this approved and get a bunch of taxpayer money for it but isn't it surprising this has happened with the Bears

like such a historic franchise it's the Chicago Bears you think the NFL youth they're one of the first teams I think people think of. So why are they having such issues? Just because they haven't been winning as much lately? No, I think it's because they're moving out of the city in which they are named. Yeah. Now, you would think – now, this happened in Charlotte too. Remember, Charlotte, whenever Tepper wanted to move the practice facility,

started building the practice facility. And then the city didn't hold up their end of the bargain in his eyes. I don't know what they did. I would assume they have reasoning for why they did what they did. But in his eyes, nah, I ain't going into business if this is how you guys are going to operate. Halted it, bankrupted it, done.

Need to find a new site. I wonder if something similar happened here in Chicago before they get too far down the road where there was some sort of thing said by the Arlington people that the Chicagoago bears like whoa whoa whoa whoa this is not what we agreed to and this is not before we even get started and now they're kind of on their way out that all that negotiating and shit that takes place in those billion dollar conversations taxpayer money plus potential future earnings i mean that is a huge years 10 year conversation

like how long until you actually break ground on that? I don't know. And they said he started demolishing. Zito just told me they started demolishing shit last week. So they did get started, I guess, in Arlington. But now it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going to happen to Soldier Field, though, if this new thing happens? Chicago Fire.

Kanye. Yeah, parking lot. Chicago Fire. For real, they're going to keep it up there and just do whatever i would assume right they should that's a massive venue right swift was just there last yeah they just use it for concerts yeah right on the the water too it's like beautiful a bunch of hotels around there still probably open it up a little bit you don't need all the seats yeah maybe open it up a little bit get a nice view here we go that's what they want to do get less seats in

yeah exactly and spend more money making it and making the changes this seemingly happens though where a town in a program come into an understanding and then because you got politics involved i would assume with tax taxes yeah it has to be all you need is what one person takes stand and be like no actually we're doing this way and then oh really is that right okay shut it down i don't give a fuck we're doing it this way and then oh really is that right okay shut it down i'll give off seemingly what the nfl team say is that right oh okay okay good luck yeah we're out of here we'll find somewhere else we're gonna go 30 minutes down the road you know that place that has all the people with money already and everything all right we're gonna go right down there and

they are actually gonna let us do that we We'll go then. You already started demolishing it last week. Okay. We will. See ya. That's wild that that takes place, doesn't it? I mean, that's wild. All the owners, though. Think of the owners.

Every owner that has, like, I don't know how many you could say has, like, a Patriots place type thing where you have your stadium and then they own everything around it, like what Green Bay has done over the years. Every owner that doesn't have that, they're just thinking every single day, what do I have to do to build my, like, Patriot place so I can bring it all. My Jerry world, bro. $1.1 billion is his yearly income or something like that. Now, that's obviously gross.

I don't think that's net. But that leads all professional sports. I think it's $1.1 billion yearly gross income, I would assume, is what it is. I think, yeah. It was either that or over three years. I couldn't, I'll look it up. No, I think it was, because the other one was like 626 was like in second place. Yeah, and we know how much they make per home game

in revenue. 80, 70? 75 million or something, then next is Patriots, but still. Let alone all the other shit that they own, though, around Jerry World and all the other stores. It's like, there's some people that are really profiting off of this whole NFL thing, like there's some people that are really profiting off of this whole nfl thing and then there's people that are truly like there's there's a lot of money to be

made in the nfl like the colts here they rent the stadium from the city i think i don't know what it is i think it's like 250 000 okay great deal that is a pretty good deal that is it i don't know if that's an accurate number i guess i should look into it more but that number has been floated a couple times in conversations i've been in they rent the stadium from the city so what you lose is obviously the ability to weaponize the stadium and weaponize anything at all times to turn a profit and make your business bigger but obviously he doesn't lose out on any money having to invest and build anything. Yeah. Anybody else.

When you got Jerry and Kraft and now the Vikings. Exactly. I assume the Buffalo Beals are going to be trying to do the same thing. They're going to be taking their businesses to just whole other levels. Completely different levels. It's like Green Bay, right? We went through Green Bay's numbers because they're publicly owned. So they have to open their books.

And those books can certainly be framed in different ways. The real estate department of the Green Bay Packers book was like $200 million a year or something like that. Investment. And that's all the buildings around Lambeau that they use, whether it's the fucking slide, the bars, the museum, the hotel, everything they own. It's like $200 million they're just getting on the side just from having to land around Green Bay. It's like that's smart business.

That's what every NFL team is going to be trying to do. Well, and at this point, too, how hard is it going to be for a lot of these? It seems like there's not a lot of spaces left in these big cities or areas around it where there's that much undeveloped land where you can just go build like a massive complex that houses a stadium and a bunch of hotels and retail and a casino like it seems like that's getting harder and harder too you gotta move out of the city that's why no i know because you have to move out of the city and go out to get all that space you gotta go out to naperville get it. But even so, like a lot of those places in big cities, like the suburbs are exploding too.

I mean. Zito, how far is Naperville closer than Arlington to Chicago? I would say, yeah. It's like, so Naperville's more just straight west, southwest. And then Arlington's like northwest. Got it. How far is Arlington from Naperville? I would say like 20, 30 minutes.

Chicago. There's traffic, but yeah. Five minutes or two hours. Yeah. It's Chicago. That place. Wasn't Elon going to build a thing? Yeah, he built the tunnels.

It was to the airport, though. There's good business, by the way, by Elon. I'll build it all. I'll build it all. Yeah, you guys don't have to pay anything. I get every single dollar, though, forever in perpetuity that is spent on any ticket that goes. And the mayor's like, absolutely. You take care of our traffic.

You do what you got to do. And Elon's like, cool. I'm going to buy Twitter. It's going to immediately cut in half, and then it's going to go down even more, another 17%. It's going to be one-third the value, but I know tickets coming out of Chicago out of my little underground lair,

just going to make up for that. How we doing? And then PayPal's there as well. And then we got SpaceX.la we got paypal you know we just got money everywhere yeah we're okay and then we're gonna do interviews with presidential candidates yep and piss off the whole world yeah yeah and you know retweet stuff and retweet twitter space dude elon is Twitter space. Dude, Elon is a wild anomaly. Yes. Like, right?

Does whatever he wants. Kind of has an outlaw spirit. A little bit. Not even kind of. Definitely has an outlaw spirit. That's why he has 10 kids. Or he has nine kids now, I think, right? Well, we heard there's a little why you would have 10 kids

instead of any number lower than that. Allegedly, you don't have to pay child support if you have 10 kids. We're all trying to figure out how the Nick Cannon situation works and why and how. Allegedly, it was reported on the internet that if you have 10 children, you don't have to pay child support anymore. No way. I was going to say, I don't know if I buy that. It doesn't make much sense. The internet report.

But Elon has nine of them? I did not know that was the case. I think. Maybe. I don't know for sure. He's got a lot. I thought he just had XCI for... No, he had like three or four with his first wife, and then he married her again, I think, and I don't know if they had more, and then he has, I don't know how many in the last five

years. His dad just had a kid. Jeez. Al Pacino just knocked up a gal. What do you mean? And Robert De Niro, right? Oh, yeah. What's going on? I have a kid right now, a baby. Was everybody signing up for it? Pacino said,

I didn't know I was still capable of this, so you need to prove to me that that is my kid. There's no way. Is that really what he said? Yeah. He was blindsided. Did you know? I was told 50, 40, 83. He's. Oh, Paul. Did you know? I was told 50, 40, 83.

He was really torn, though. He had to be torn. Like, man, I still got it, though. All right. Yeah. Pretty sweet. Listen, don't really want to do the night hours. Yeah.

Right. But also, still kind of got my fastball. Yeah. Pumped about it. Joining us now is a man who had his fastball and then he lost his Summer Slam in Nashville, Tennessee. Goddamn right. This guy's a WWE superstar.

Former NFL superstar. He's down like 70 pounds from those days. He looks great. And last week, he just showed his face on NXT and just ruined somebody's day. Seems like he loves doing that, except for whenever he's at Big Slick in Kansas City, which raised $3.5 million to, I believe, Mercy's Children's Hospital in Kansas City,

where every human that is associated with Kansas City attended, this man being one of them, WWE superstar Baron Corbin. Yeah! Hello, hello, hello. How are you, man? Hey, just real quick. Aside from the Tennessee topic where I lost, I mean, you look like you've stopped working out in that sleeveless shirt,

but you were bigger, stronger, better, faster there. You didn't have to bring it up, though. Yeah, right. Right now, I'm properly jogged right now, dude. I am. You know it. I know it. I'm getting after it, pal.

I've been getting after it. You have a great editing AI team. Well, which is on the horizon. It is. I think we should all kind of look into that. I'm going to make my teeth whiter immediately upon coming on camera here. Thank you for joining us. Can they give me hair?

Can they give me hair? All right, so let's dive into it. When are you growing that shit back that you had at the beginning of your dub? Why? Come on. Father Time got me, dude. Nah, you still got the Hulk H your dub why come on brother time got me dude nah you still got the hulk hogan you can still do the hulk hogan it's not a good look it's not a good look for me well are we trying to look good or we're trying to come on look sweet are we trying

to yeah we're trying to be too sweet are we trying to look good what are we what are we trying to do all right let's dive in you're a good human. You're doing great cooking stuff and also completely defeated to me in wrestling. No big deal. This weekend, Big Slick in Kansas City. It seems like it's the greatest charity event of all time. How many years have you been going and how did you get involved? So this is my second year in a row. I was supposed to start the year that COVID hit, so it got canceled.

So I'm two years in now. Couldn't even raise money for kids' hospitals. Man. Yes. Children's Mercy Hospital is absolutely amazing. Eric Stonestreet from Modern Family, him and I became friends. Yes. And he invited me to play since I'm from Kansas City,

and that's where the cause is, Children's Mercy Hospital is based in Kansas City. You know, you got Paul Rudd, Jason Sudeikis, Rob Riggle, David Kirshner, and Heidi Gardner from Saturday Night Live. They're all from Kansas City. They grab co-hosts from movies, from music, all of those things, and bring them all to Kansas City, and we spend three days raising money. Yeah, well, it's awesome. It is three straight days.

It's better than your service currently, but you do look very cool in that car. Weird Al Yankovic also there. Show him no love. Show Weird Al Yankovic no love. I didn't know he was still alive. I saw him in one of your stories. I'm like, holy shit. That's Weird Al Yankovic.

But everybody seemingly has a tie to Kansas City. Eric Stonestreet got gunned out by Patrick Mahomes behind his back. Were you there for that? I know, made SportsCenter. Is that the greatest play in the history of the big, slick softball game? Without a doubt. Boom. Nice.

Without a doubt because, you know, a few people just fell down and run into first base. So when you have an athlete like Mahomes out there, and it seemed like the other, the blue team was stacked. If you saw me at home plate trying to tag him out, I could have got him. Didn't want to risk injury. Hold on, though.

Does he do that every single time a ball is near him? Because there's a lot of chance for Mahomes to miss that. Big time. And look bad. There's a lot of people in that stadium. How many people in that stadium? Quite a few. A lot.

Because we're playing right before the Royals take the field. Oh, smart. Holy shit. What an event over there. Go ahead, AJ. What makes Kansas City so special? I know I've been there a few times and I love it, but you named all those actors and everybody. Is it just because the Chiefs are so good right now that we see everybody from Kansas City? Or obviously there's a lot more. You guys have a lot of pride. I mean, I just think that the guys who started it, you know, Paul Rudd, one of the biggest, you know, stars right now in the world and Jason Sudeikis with his show and all of those

things, they bring a lot of eyes to anything they do. They've been doing this since 2010. It started as a poker tournament. This year we've raised total over $21 million. The a hundred percent goes to Children's mercy hospital for pediatric cancer pediatric care and all of these things and it's just become uh such an event that i think it's getting nationalized now hell yeah and you uh put a little camera on what seemingly was a basement between two of the biggest stars on the world ted lasso and, and getting after it here in the shallow. Is this what the whole weekend's like? Just fucked up singing songs together?

Hell yeah. It is. Everybody that comes in as a part of this is unbelievably cool, from top to bottom. There's guys that have been coming back for every single year, which is crazy. Weird Al was in the first one. Everybody is just so fun

and they have no ego it's just a great thing and then you get you know a little tequila whiskey going and after party and uh you got some real real talent out there in karaoke or the sunglasses you were wearing what was that all about i saw you wearing sunglasses uh the kansas city local company they they gave us all a pair of sunglasses and i actually loved them you look everywhere now hey you look super cool yeah i try i gotta keep up with you you know well i don't know if you're gonna be able to see what i got going on just wear jean shorts a black tank top and a chain damn yeah that's a good good idea looks like you gotta figure it out how big are you okay

you're tall dude big guy i'm six six six seven on a good day so Looks like you've got to figure it out. How big are you? You're tall, dude. Big guy. I'm 6'6", 6'7", on a good day. So I beat a 6'7 guy. No big deal. We don't have to keep bringing that up. Well, I do. Because honestly, you're an impressive individual. You know what I mean? NFL guy.

Yeah. WWE superstar for a long time. How long have you been in WWE now? July will be 11 years. Holy A's. 11 years. Come on on come on football tom they used to say football that was my name walking in the door and now you're fucking baron core what are you going down nxt for ruining that kid's life what the guy was just chilling having a good time

you come out of nowhere how'd you even get in there where was security well i'm a free agent now so technically i can go to any show I want. And I just, you know, the kid's a new champ. I really wanted to welcome him properly. Smart. All right. Well, don't be rude to this guy. He's got a promising future.

Yeah. That's what I'm good at doing, though. You are. You love it, huh? You enjoy the hell out of your WD? Yeah. I do. I love irritating people to no end.

Supposed to do it, you think? Put on his earth to do it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. If I got Supposed to do it, you think? Put on his earth to do it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. If I got 11 years out of it, most definitely. Nah, nah. There's people that stick around things that they're miserable at and they hate at.

You know what I mean? Seems like you genuinely enjoy it still. Oh, absolutely. I love it. I love the hardest parts is leaving home, leaving the babies, leaving the family. But then once you get into those arenas, it makes it all worth it. How about you cooking? You started some shit.

Who's killing them? Yeah, some viral TikTok chef reaction. Chef reaction. That guy's awesome. So he's – Hit him with a frying pan. You better watch it, though. It feels like chef reaction called fastball.

It feels like he's got a little – he doesn't like you. Why doesn't he like you? He had some heat. I don't know. I think he's just probably angry i'm a better chef than he is and that's his cool sorry bye never fun yeah it's like i'm still bitter at you this is my career you came in you beat me i'm still angry i feel like that's him and he's like hey man this guy's not really a chef but he can out cook me so i'm angry yeah but how much fun is it to be like in my position with you and in your position with him? It's a good time.

It's a blast. We're living the high life right now, right? Right. Crossover's amazing. Yeah, you're the best. All right, have a good one. Enjoy your day. Thank you for raising money for the kids. I will. Next, we've got to get you out to join in. To what? To the Big Slick. I'm not big enough to join in for Big Slick. I'm not big enough to name for Big Slick.

I'm from Pittsburgh, Indianapolis. Three days to it. I'm sure you can bring an amazing prize with you for the auction, the live auction. It gets real wild in there watching people compete. Paul Rudd auctioned off two tickets to walk the red carpet with him for the new Ghostbusters movie. How much did it go? It went for $55,000, then he doubled it. Somebody else paid $55,000, then he tripled it, and it went again.

So he raised $165,000 like nothing. Wow. And he's walking with six people at the Ghostbusters he's never met before. Hell yeah. I think they're cooking grilled cheeses after the party, so who knows? Well, that could be you or Chef Reaction. Yeah. Wow.

That's what it could be. Wow. You could do dinner with AJ Hawk for $200 could be you or Chef Reaction. Yeah. Wow. You could do dinner with AJ Hawk for $200,000. Oh my god. For sure. That's so monster. Alone. One-on-one. Private room. At AJ's house. Nobody else there. In that attic maybe. Yeah, just them two. He's not going to wear his shirt. Yeah, shirtless.

Yeah, his bedroom. Do you want to help the kids or not, Kansas City? Yeah, fair question. Yeah, his bedroom. Do you want to help the kids or not, Kansas City? Yeah. Fair question. Yeah, I do. I want to help the kids. Ladies and gentlemen, WWE superstar Baron Corbin. Yeah, Corbin.

So we have just been told that we have Big Perk at 150. Oh. He got into it a little bit with J.J. Reddick this morning. Yes, he did. Remember, they did get into it over race a couple weeks back. You remember that, A.J.? Yeah, I didn't see what happened this morning, but I definitely remember what happened two, three weeks ago.

Yeah, two, three. I think that's still kind of lingering. I think it's kind of lingering in there. This morning he had some tired eyes, and they were saying, Hey, Big Perk, if you're going to fall asleep on here, just don't come on. Who said that? I believe that's what the conversation was yeah jj had a solo shot and then big perk didn't like what he was saying so he was kind of huffing and puffing and jj stopped and said hey you got sleep apnea uh big perk and then steven a came in and was like hey this is

disrespectful and then they both double teamed on Big Perk, and then he had to defend himself. Wow. It was all Tyrone Perk. Full blown. Jeez Louise. Perk loved it. Perk had to love it. You know, he loves that. Yeah, that's TV. You know what I mean?

We're just doing the sports media. Going to talk to Perk, though, about like, because for three quarters of that game last night, I'm thinking to myself, this Joker guy, why have we not? I am pissed that I have not known of this guy's greatness. And then as soon as I say that, obviously, people say he won MVP twice. It's like, I didn't look into it more than that, though.

Okay, shove that guy on television so I have to see him. Please, for the love of everything athleticism, put this dude on TV so I have to watch him and have no other opportunity. Now, that's what the playoffs are for, so he's going to have to earn it, and he has earned it. But all those West Coast time slots at night for the NBA, for a lot of us, nowhere near Denver Nuggets games.

They're third, fourth in the line, especially with what the Phoenix Suns have done now. So you're talking about Lakers obviously going to be number one because the Lakers are the Lakers and they got LeBron James. Then you got Golden State up there with Steph Curry. He's Steph Curry. They're Golden State. They've won. They're going to be there.

Now you're talking about the Phoenix Suns and then the Clippers also, another L.A. team who have stars. So when you talk about the West Coast getting TV time, the Joker is fifth in line somehow. Getting to watch him has been a treat. He's an absolute treat. He's been an absolute joy. Because he's looking to pass all the time. And then if they give him a shot, he's like, well, fuck, I guess. And then

he doesn't even hit the rim. His touch around the hoop is immaculate. He was sprinting as fast as he could last. I was thinking it was first or second quarter. As fast as he could. And he just kind of floated it up near the rim just as soft as he could. Just perfectly. Yeah. and he feels like he's getting hit in the face at all times.

And then somehow he's banking at home. Still finishing. He's phenomenal. I said, Jokers must watch television. A lot of people say he's flopping all over the place. He's flopping all over the place. Everybody is. Guy's 6'11", though. Flopping hurts. He fell last night. Big man falls hard. He slid.

It was like the most athletic fall of all time we haven't even started chatting about how his big ass should not be that healthy in that comfortable with how fast he's running the behind the back how you doing little hezy in the middle of the paint while putting a shot up it's like you're too big like not just tall you were too grand he's got a fat ass i mean we're talking like he's a thick heavy wide he's a heavy 611 and he's moving all over the place he's awesome to watch and i mean he said we don't care we're gonna fucking steal this game in denver and kind of make us the talking point which i respect but i want to know from perk from the nba world how

come i haven't seen this big fucking Serbian on TV enough to know that he is must-watch television until this playoffs run? Yeah, it's ridiculous, especially because he has one of those two MVPs, and I guess those other teams you named, they might be bigger markets, but he's so entertaining. It's almost like, hey, this might get people to watch more basketball, but the conversation you just mentioned about him flopping all over and how the refs are calling the game

one side, that just has to stop. Not only is it like, hey, sometimes it happens to both teams, but me and you when we went to see the Clippers and the Suns, you don't really pick up how physical the game is on TV. And so you might think Joker's just flopping around, flailing all over the

place, but they're like bodying each other beneath the net and up and down the court. We got to see that. Yes. And it doesn't transfer to the TV the way it does when you're in person. Big bodies hitting each other. Yeah. Always going to be a collision.

You know, big bodies. We all saw LeBron. Yeah. With his broken foot. Bingo. From the middle of the court to guys drink front row. That's right. To Tao trying to wave in face earlier to intimidate.

Yep. Now, go ahead and wipe yourself off. Mm-hmm. What a time basketball is. They're in the middle of a good time right now. I feel like these teams, the Heat and the Nuggets, are good for the NBA. And I feel like the Heat probably heard a lot of the, like, overreaction after game one, you know, in terms of like,

oh, this is fucking over. You know, Joker's just going to steamroll these guys. They're going to get swept. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, you got a team that's already got this big of a chip on their shoulder. You know, I'm sure that stuff probably made its way back to the locker room. I mean, you know, Coach Spoh, he's got the boys

firing on all cylinders. I absolutely love what the NBA's doing. Thank you for it. Fantastic. Because that was a blowout, and then it ends up as a three-point game. The first game was a blowout that ends up at 11 or whatever. There was a time last night where I was thinking, like, Miami Heat are about to beat the Denver Nuggets by 12. And then, like, they would cover that nine-point spread

that everybody was thinking was so big, so disrespectful, and then all of a sudden Jamal Murray just starts knocking down threes. And everything changes like that. Shout-out to the NBA. And shout-out to Perk. Join us in about 10 minutes. I don't know what the interaction's been, but I think

I personally think Van Gundy's been very, very funny this series. Yeah, he seems to not really have time for the shits. He doesn't. He does not have time for the shits. Like if there was a loose ball in the game one and everyone was giving him credit for the guy for diving on the ball and Van Gundy comes in and he goes, or he could have just picked it up and laid it in because that was an option too.

Let's go to the 5-Hour Energy phone lines. Yeah, I think the—I've seen there was some conversation about the coverage. Yeah, a little bit. About the coverage. Well, anytime you're splitting ESPN, TNT, naturally going to be a, hey, hey. You can talk about one show that has all of the Emmys. Their pregame show is unbelievable. All of them. They all of the Emmys. Their pregame show is unbelievable. All of them.

They have all the Emmys. And then I think Breen and them for the broadcast call, they are the ones that win that Emmy. Yeah, Breen is. He's awesome. Top notch. Yeah, love Breen. He looks super cool too.

They did an on-court shot to start the entire game yesterday. He had sweet glasses on, this good suit. Flawlessly open intro right to Mark Jackson. Not a flub. Not one single flub. And it was loud. He couldn't hear himself talking. I know he couldn't hear himself in there because it was literally as they were like introducing people.

So the crowd, which has been phenomenal over there, very loud. So he can't hear himself speak. Has no clue where he's going. Sends it to Mark. No flub at all. It's like, that's a champion right there. That's a good champion on a microphone. Let's go to the Fire Energy phone line. Let's go to Colin

in Wisconsin. Colin, what's going on? That's an air quality thing. Nice. Yeah, it's breezy out there. This guy's actually flying a plane right now, open wing. Colin, what's going on, dude? Good, how we doing? Keep it moving, Colin. Hell yeah. Yep. Fast, boys. Colin, what's going on, dude? Good. How we doing?

Keep it moving, Colin. Hell yeah. Not too fast, though. Just keep the plane afloat. Yeah, no, I just drove past my guy I'm working with. My phone connected to his truck, so he probably heard you guys talking. That's awesome news. Nice.

Now, I don't want to dive too deep into there, with Shakira's job on my mind Imagine a car pulls up A lady's car This guy's phone connects to that car Over there Oh my god Why is your phone connecting to that That would be awesome That would be incredible

Okay so I'm happy to hear that that phone heard us talk Shout out to that truck and also yours What do you want to talk about, brother? Hey, so kind of a question for all you guys, but mainly for Ty. Just wondering if you guys are ready for the Green Bay Pockers to be Super Bowl champions. Just seeing how they were up in my neck of the woods last week boozing with the boys on Green Bay.

I'm thinking that we're finding out that Jordan Love is about to be an absolute Dope! I agree, Colin. I actually asked Ty this question earlier. What are your realistic expectations at this point for the Packers? Everything I'm seeing come out of there, I'm a fucking massive fan of old Jordan Love. Yeah, I said I think they're going to win the division. I really do.

Sorry, Colin. I thought I hung up on you before that. Didn't need any more. Appreciated your call. Ate everything you said. But I think Jordan's doing everything that I would want him to do if I was a fan of a team and he was trying to fill in the footsteps. Seems like he's having a great time with the boys. Locker room loves him seemingly.

Romeo Dobbs came out and said, now Romeo was just a rookie so I don't think he knows what he doesn't know yet as an adult. But he came out and went to bat. Aaron Jones has come out and went to bat. Jordan seemingly every video we're seeing is making. Jordan, seemingly every video we're seeing, is making every single play. The way he's handling himself in press conferences is great. Goontz's entire legacy here is relying upon this, and I think he's going to do great.

When I think you look at their weapons, you get another year with Christian Watson and Dobbs. Both those guys are burners. They have deep play threats, and then their backfield should be very, very good with Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon, and their defense can't possibly be as bad as it was last year. That was the reason people were saying, hey, the Packers are a Super Bowl

favorite going into the year because they've shored up the defense so much. We already know what the offense with Rodgers can do. They should be able to bounce back, you'd think. I really have gone from this like, oh, you know, this team's going to be a five- or six-win team, just over the course of your right. I mean, as silly as, like, seeing Jordan Love throw an OTAs to, like, oh, shit, you know, everyone's saying they're going to suck,

they're going to be one of the worst teams in the NFL. I really do think they might win the division. AJ, what was that I seen on the internet? Bakhtiari said they're in a rebuild year. Did you see that? Yeah, I don't think he was trying to say it as like, hey, this is a bad thing. When he's saying this is reality, this is where we are,

we don't really know what we're going to be, but let's go out and try to figure it out. Yeah, because I guess you never know how quick you can build. True. You know? Yeah, because it might take only a couple weeks. Might. But it's not like a normal rebuild like you break the whole roster down, right?

You lose a ton of different people. This one, obviously, you lose the big guy your quarterback yeah i don't know i think he's like everybody else hey we don't know let's see we but they could absolutely use this as motivation okay nobody gives us a chance everyone wrote us off once aaron was out of here let's try to figure something out we would like to let him know that although we were right in the middle of the entire conversation obviously and we were very lucky to hear aaron's side of the entire breakup we'll say after 18 years 17 years however many years it's been we have hoped that jordan love is a good player the whole time genuinely yeah from day one what

a shitty situation that dude was dropped into terrible just a terrible situation night you get drafted dream come true how you doing next day hasn't even got to enjoy it no no you know what i mean hasn't even got to enjoy like being drafted in the first round quarterback of an nfl team hasn't hasn't even had all he's had to do is just kind of work hopefully get better and handle himself with grace and class for sure through it all because if not not only did he kind of break up aaron and the packers and nsc championship nsc championship and then now where they're at but also like he could be hated yeah by a lot of and it's not i don't think it's like that at all with anybody i'm i don't know how many people could handle this way handle it the way that jordan love has handled it and then on top of it like not that you know like i mean

obviously being on a good team and everything is a dream, but you get drafted thinking you're going to get an opportunity at some point, and then you see the guy win MVPs in back-to-back years, and it's like I have a feeling it'd be tough to just be like, I'm never going to get an opportunity here. My opportunity is just never going to come. They drafted

me thinking this guy fell off. He clearly hasn't. He's won two MVPs in a row. You could see how your mind would almost wander to the point where it's like, well, fuck it. Am I ever going to get a chance to show what I can do? And half the time when something bad would happen, he would be trending. Jordan Love would be trending

if something were to go wrong with the Packers. He hadn't even done anything. The guy hasn't been able to have a Twitter. Hasn't been able to go on social media, like the entire thing. And not to mention the first couple clips that came out of Jordan Love. It was like Will Levis-esque where everyone's just like, oh, okay, this guy's going to suck forever.

Unlike Anthony Richardson. No, but it is. Hey, just real quick. Yeah, very much unlike. He's barred down. Exactly. And, you know, I put out a video of Anthony Richardson explosive dunks. Oh, yeah, very explosive.

Throwing down. I'm down i'm talking that's a that's a very aggressive dunk yeah that's john you have to be so athletic to be able to accomplish this and obviously he was six foot four and he was faster than any quarterback in the history of the combine jumped higher than any quarterback and i mean you just saw it right there double yeah i mean six foot four that guy dude thick man big body doing all that stuff that video came across my timeline and i didn't edit it somebody did i wish i could give them credit a e3 something i appreciate them doing that because literally as i'm watching it it was like yeah this guy's our fucking quarterback just such a difference than matt ryan being our quarterback

or carson wentz being our quarterback or carson wentz being our quarterback or philip rivers being our quarterback and then he started thinking i saw a bunch of people between pull up his highlights from florida you can't you can't doesn't have any highlights yeah and then somebody put like a bunch of his low lights together and it was him making poor decisions throwing picks missing people and they're like this is the sport that you need to be showing a video from not from basketball but, but then I start thinking, like, Steichen's offense, like, that basketball video matters. Yeah.

Like, in Steichen's offense where the quarterback has to be an elite-level athlete for it to really go with what he was able to do with Jalen Hurts, and then that Bardowski video, like, those are the throws he's going to have to be able to make. He's going to have to be able to put it on somebody that's dragging across the field or potentially going. He's going to have to be on the run when he does it and when he does there should be massive seams it's like i think everything that he is and everything that he's shown is perfect for the situation we're in and it's the first time we felt like this in indianapolis for some time so i'm

fucking jocked up aj about anthony richardson and i'm happy he's not the Will Levis or the Jordan Love of it all. He is seemingly the guy that's like, yeah, he might be perfect for this situation that he's in. Also, you guys would know better than any of us, but coaching matters in the NFL. You get these guys with just a bunch of raw talent. It's not like they're just expected to, hey, go and just

get better on your own. Coaching actually matters. Pull up Jalen Hurts' clips from not last year, but two years ago when people were basically saying, going into the year, hey, if this guy doesn't improve as a passer, they're going to get rid of his ass. And guess what?

He signed a $255 million extension. Yeah, exactly. I saw that this weekend. They ran that on the bottom. I was watching SportsCenter. I've been trying to watch more ESPN through the entire, like basically all hours. I'm trying to watch it, just trying to see everything, you know, things that they could potentially help us with, things that, you know,

how do we go in there? And one of the conversations about quarterbacks that popped up there is like Jalen Hurts signed $255 million extension. I'm like, that is so big for a guy that one year ago was like, is he? I don't know. Got ran out of time. Can't throw a deep ball. Doesn't throw a good deep ball.

Yeah, they legit were saying, hey, we're going to draft somebody in the first round. No, it said, I don't know if it was true, but it said they tried to trade for Russell Wilson before he went to the Broncos. It had been agreed to, and Russell Wilson basically said, I'm not going to play in Philadelphia. So to all the people that are tweeting me about how that basketball video doesn't matter, it does. It does with Shane Steichen as the OC.

And I think Steichen might be a dog too. Absolutely. After coming in here. I think so. I think he's a guy that will, you know, I don't want to say command respect, but I think he will be respected by the team, especially after everything that's happened, because some of the shit that was happening behind the scenes, allegedly at the Colts building,

maybe wasn't the best championship method of doing things. You know, missing treatments, late to the things, late to the meetings. You know, I'll put it on the list. Those are all rumors that leaked out? Yeah, things of that nature. Allegedly. I mean, we weren't told. Nobody from inside the building would tell us.

Ah, people inside the building, but nobody from, like, football ops would tell us that. It was basically just kind of leaking out through every other asset of the thing. Like, hey, I would talk to a former teammate of mine. I'd be like, hey, what are your thoughts on Colts? And they'd be like, well, we heard that. Boom. This was all happening and like when Jeff went in there it was like hey Jeff was told basically

by like Jim like hey we need to put this in we need this back in there we need this type of stuff back in there so I don't think Jeff like made a lot of friends when he went back in there like a little bit of accountability you know what I mean like hey we need to kind of get this whole thing done so I would assume Jim Irsay's mind if Jeff was able to like redirect what was going on football-wise,

he would consider the Jeff Saturday experience a success, even though there wasn't a lot of wins, and it ended up with us being the fourth overall pick. But it's just like what I had heard from people. Nobody told us directly, so I have to clarify that. But from people that with knowledge of the situation told me that there was some shit happening that wasn't like, know we're trying to win the best it was like hey we're trying to get by almost yeah they're not thriving they're trying to survive yeah i think teams that make

deep runs in the playoffs you usually don't hear those kind of rumors about them just those little things that seem like throw away okay whatever one guy's late here there whatever like that doesn't happen with championship teams how about when Schultz came on here? It was a big deal. It was a big deal. And we had to get it corrected, and we got texts from the team and from everybody else. Immediately.

Schultz came on and was like, Zach Wilson's late to team meetings. He's doing other stuff. And I think Schultz thought that was like a throwaway comment. As soon as he said that, I said, Huge news. Huge news. Quarterbacks are late to team meetings? He's huge news. Quarterbacks are late to team meetings. He's like, yeah, he's late to team meetings.

He's doing this whole thing. And it was almost just like a throwaway comment that caused a massive scene for anybody that knows football. It's like quarterback can't be late to meetings. I've never seen it. Ever. Can't happen. So then we get a call from the Jets. We get a call from media people.

The local media people are like, you think it would slip by all 150 of us that are covering the Jets every single fucking day that the quarterback is late to meet? You don't think we wanted to know if the quarterback was late? I'm like, valid, valid, valid, valid. Why have we not heard about that? And then Jets are like, just would like to clarify

that nothing that was said about Zach Wilson being late to meetings was accurate and if it was we would certainly not be telling you that it wasn't like we are very transparent we have to be with our media thing like that is not true so we had to get that corrected but those little things are massive ordeals that are kind of a depiction on how your entire organization is. So I think Steichen is walking into a place where there might be a refocused veteran group, kind of a realigned veteran group, and also a bunch of young guys that are seemingly all on the same page

and have very vital roles. It could be a fun little mix, but the AFC is so loaded right now, it's going to be tough to make it anywhere. But at least hearing stuff, especially about Anthony Richardson now, it's all good things. You're really not hearing any of those negative things

like we were just mentioning. And when you look at the, well, go back to last year and what his situation was at Florida, it's like, well, when Josh Allen was a rookie, you could go back to Wyoming before he played. And it's like, okay, well, he wasn't playing against anybody. But then three years later, because of the system he was in and because of the Beals and Brandon Bean

and them kind of building them up, it's basically the exact same thing that's happening in Indy now with Steichen and Chris Ballard. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from a different association, he's an ESPN pundit that we all enjoy the hell out of. Oh, hell yeah. He will give an incredibly insightful take and then at the end say, carry on,

which has become one of my favorite things to almost tweet every single time somebody tweets something that is completely wrong i want to answer it and then at the end say carry on but don't want to steal this dude's thing former first round draft pick of the nba obviously nba legend. Ladies and gentlemen, Big Perk, Kendrick Perk. Perk, what up, man? Man, I've been waiting on this damn invite. I've been waiting on this damn invite. I've been waiting to get on here. Look, I know I'm not dressed properly. You know what I'm saying?

Don't judge. Don't judge, but I should have thrown on my white beater, on my mustard feet, you know what I'm saying? And dressed accordingly, but it's all good, man. I'm happy to be here. And look, congratulations. Hey, thank you. Yeah, we're pumped.

We're lucky. We're excited. You look good. Don't you worry about how you dress. You look clean. Hey, Park, you look good. Come on, Park. You look good, Park.

We're sorry we didn't dress like you. Now, let's dive into some basketball talk as we're taking up more of your life here. And we appreciate you signing on to do this late after the show had started already perk i want to know why and i assume you have similar questions but why did i as basketball casual not be forced to watch the joker play basketball i'm watching him through this playoff series he is must watch television and last night for three quarters i'm thinking to myself like i need this joker guy every night and then miami does what miami do in the fourth quarter and come come back and win that thing but this joker guy why isn't he on tv every single night and should he be perk absolutely he should be he he is one the best player in the league he's the most skilled center to ever touch the damn basketball.

Let me say that, okay? Every time he shoots, I think it's going in. I don't care the level of difficulty, 47% from the three-point line. But we are to blame. And that's us as the media, us at the network, ESPN, because we should do a better job of promoting and marketing him. And he should be on television because if you want to show someone how to play basketball the correct way, you got to show him. You got to show them Jokic. When you're talking about IQ, when you're talking about straight skill,

Jokic is the guy that you're supposed to be watching. We shouldn't have to be waiting until the NBA finals to be able to appreciate Jokic. Like, we got to do a better job, including myself, of actually marketing him. Like, let's talk about the Lakers and LeBron James and Jason Tatum and more talk about Jokic. Well, Perk, the reason why you won is because he's white. I know that.

Yeah. AJ, AJ, your question. Yeah, your question. If you're the Heat, how do you stop that team? And what do you make of all these comments and Spolster getting asked about, hey, if he gets his, he gets 40 plus, you can win the game. Like, what do you think of all this controversy kind of going on? Well, you know, if I'm the Heat, you got to come to some type of conclusion that it's no stopping Jokic, right?

You only try to make things difficult on him. And the way that you stop Jokic offensively is that you try to at least drain him on the other end and involve him in as much action as possible. That's the only way you can stop Jokic. I don't think the Heat game plan or blueprint is to shut down others. Let me say this. I don't think the Heat game plan is to say, oh, we want to limit Jokic's assists. I think their game plan is that we got to play others harder. That's why we saw Jimmy Butler last night guarding Murray

because Spoh was like, look, I need you to be a dog. We'll figure out everything else offensively, but I need you to take ownership, and I'm going to put this on you, this responsibility for you to lock up Murray. And I just thought that he did a great job of taking away the back cuts and communicating things and eric's poster coach is the asshole man he threw hey did we know that about spolster for this entire time that he's like one of the greatest because they're like every time he's talking

about it's like future hall of famer eric's poster big time brandy's he always been like this or has this kind of been he's come into his own well it's it's two things one i'm disappointed that he never won coach of the year like that's disturbing disturbing. It makes my damn skin crawl. Two, every single time it's a coach that has coached LeBron James, he gotBron accountable. Do you remember? I don't know if y'all heard the story about when LeBron first got to Miami, he wasn't a big fan of Eric Sposia. And Eric Sposia called him into his office, just him and LeBron. And he said, you got a problem with me? And he said, well, give him a call. And he pointed up there to his board,

and he had Pat Riley's number up there on the board because this is how i'm going to run this team and i'm not going nowhere and when you have that type of coach with the support of the organization then damage you could impose your will but i don't you you know like air exposure man when it comes down to him x's and O's and putting guys in position to be successful, just think about this for a second. Four undrafted guys are in his rotation right now, and they're in the NBA finals. Four that are playing crucial minutes for him. That speaks volumes.

Yeah, I think so. And that also speaks volumes to, I think, something that we miss as the casual fan, where we follow the superstars everywhere. And I'm not saying Jimmy Butler isn't a superstar. And Bam Adebayo, who I've seen on DJ Khaled's Snapchats and has a sick house. I do believe I've seen it through DJ Khaled's. But the superstars, I mean, we tend to, like, track them, all right? Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, they're going to win, obviously.

They blow that entire thing up. Okay, Kevin Durant is with Devin Booker. I'm a big Kevin Durant fan. It's like, allving, they're going to win, obviously. They blow that entire thing up. Okay, Kevin Durant is with Devin Booker. I'm a big Kevin Durant fan. It's like, all right, they're going to win. LeBron James and AD, okay, they're going to win. Obviously, Golden State has what they're good on. They're going to win. And now we're kind of watching.

You said four undrafted guys on the Heat. It feels like for the Nuggets, I don't know, a lot of the dudes that are playing on that team, the roster depth truly fucking matters. Is that going to be something you think the teams are going to think about going forward? And how would you construct a team if you had to win right now? Oh, I could use the F word on here for once.

Fuck yeah. For a couple months. Thank you. Just one time. I think I'm allowed to use it one time. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

It's going to matter. Let me tell you what. If organizations right now are not watching the Miami Heat and the Denver Nuggets and how they did things, getting it out the mud, drafting guys, building guys, putting guys around them, not superstars, but guys to compliment their stars. So when I look at the Miami Heat and I look at how they do it, look at their assistant coaches on their bench.

You have Quinn, Ron Butler, old school McAdoo, Malik Allen. All of those guys wore Heat jerseys. All of those guys played in the Pat Riley system. So now you have that middle ground where they can relate to those players and hold them accountable, including Jimmy Butler. Okay, you look at Denver, Yoke is second round pick, right? The development process. All of a sudden, you take a guy like Bruce Brown, you sign him this offseason to a steal of a deal, And he looked like a completely different player in that system than when he looked playing alongside Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.

It matters. And I think teams around the league need to say, let me reevaluate what we're doing. Let me get the right coaches in here. Let me get some player development in here. Let me get some culture in here. This is what these two teams are making the league, how they're holding the league accountable.

Like, let's do things from the ground up. No shortcuts. Yeah, and also in Miami, you got to remember, Udonis Haslam was going to beat up Jimmy Butler. Oh, yeah. He's not even a coach. He's still on a team. He needs to get meaningful minutes at some point.

I need to see Haslam out there. Wednesday. I need him out there. Make it happen. You know what I mean? Go ahead, Perk. But, man, I don't know if he got a jersey under that hoodie. I don't think he can even wear a jersey.

Hey, he does whatever the hell he wants. Seems like he is a very vital piece of that entire culture, to your point. Last question here from Connor, Perk. Yeah, Perk, sticking with the Heat, has there ever been a turnaround on a team like this before obviously they were in the playing game but even just going back to the regular season they were bottom five in most offense categories but yet now here they are in the finals where is this team playing this well or is this almost like a spo and playoff jimmy combination where they just take it to another level and carry the team all the way to where they are now?

Well, I think they just had a plan in place from the beginning of the season. Because remember, we didn't see a lot of Kyle Lowry in the rotation in the regular season. You know, they was making sure because he got so many miles on his body, they were making sure he was healthy. I think it was a plan. They stuck to the plan. They knew what sure he was healthy. I think it was a plan. They stuck to the plan. They knew what they wanted to accomplish. And to be honest, you got to tip your hat to them because

they didn't give a damn about finishing one, two, three, four, five, or six, right? They just said, give them opportunity to get in. And once they got in, they're like, okay, we're going to have to win on the road at some point. And so they're saying, let's take it on the road. But it's just part of that culture, man. And a lot of people, we laugh about Udonis Haslam. And a lot

of people out there, the young people, oh, he averaged 2,500 claps a game. Do you know what he means to that damn organization? Do you know what he means to that damn organization? Do you know what he means to Eric Sposia? He means everything. That's why when they won the Eastern Conference Finals,

they went handed him and gave him the trophy. Not because he needed it. Hell, he got three NBA championships. It's because the value that he has in that locker room. And vets matter. That's why, not to and vets matter that's why not to bring it up but i'm go bring it up that's why you look at the memphis grizzlies if they had a true veteran in that locker room a lot of that nonsense that's going on wouldn't be going on whether it's ja or dylan brooks or whomever you need vet, and teams always want to go the cheap route.

Oh, let me go spend $300,000 or $400,000 and get me a guy that I can develop, a young guy that's not going to play, rather than go spend $2.4 million to get you a vet in the locker room that's going to be able to be an extension of a coach. Yeah, we agree. It's like that in football too, pal.

Every room, every room needs a vet. Because if you don't, you're not monitoring it, shit's going to get out of control. And the little things become big things like in Memphis. They're saying that might be 50 games the whole season. He's a superstar, Perk. We need that fucking guy. Like as a sports world.

We do. We do. But one thing, let me tell you something. I believe Adam Silver is the best commissioner in sports. Wow. He's the one commissioner that you could actually, a player could pick up the phone and call him at any time. Like he has that relationship with players.

So for him to be this upset the way that I saw it in his face, it was almost like Ja betrayed him. You see what I'm saying? So I know it's going to be a big-time suspension, but it has to be. Ja could have been the face of the league, man, the face of the league, but the face of the league comes with responsibility. Who knows how good that Memphis team could be, too, if he was dialed in. Because if he's dialed in, is everybody else dialed in?

And with the way this whole playoffs has gone, anybody could have won on a run. Hopefully he'll be back. He's not mad. He's just disappointed, it seems like, from Adam Silver. Carry on, ladies and gentlemen, ESPN Kendrick Barker. Thank you. You're disgusting for swearing on our show.

Yeah. Yeah. You won't swear on any black guy's show. Only on white guy's show. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, they're calling him racist. Oh yeah.

He played team sports. Yeah. It's going to be, you know what I mean? I don't know. I don't think that's how it works. I enjoy the hell out of that, man. All right, let's get to a break.

We have, I don't like what he said about Roger Goodell there. Well, after the kickoff rule. Well, yeah, new Rog. Maybe old Rog. Yeah. I don't know if anybody's just calling Rog. You know, I don't think that's happening. A lot more players in the NFL.

Yeah. Exactly. I want to see Adam Silver go into a house oversight committee. You know, and see how it goes. Do his thing. And then we'll talk about it. Excuse me, Mr. Seivel. Yeah, I couldn't even imagine.

Mr. Sliver. Mr. Goodall, do you think this is a proper use of taxpayer money? Are you talking to me? You want me to answer that? Are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? We like to use taxpayer monies to build new stadiums and bring revenue into a city. And attention and everything like that.

I do not know personally, I might be wrong, what you guys should be using taxpayer money, but I'm here as long as you guys need me. That's the thing about Goodell. See, he gets it. Thank you, Mr. Goodell. Thank you, Goodell. Let's get to a break, AJ. Perk, that was like late edition. Yeah, that was awesome.

That was middle of show. I get a text, hey, Perk would like to come on Is that cool? Yes, boom Let's have him Had to google him real quick, found out he's a first round draft pick Straight out of high school 6'10, 270 Carry on Let's go to a break on the other side

We answer some more phone calls on the 5 Energy phone line Cover more things happening around the sports world Like Dalvin Cook to the Dolphins. What? Yep. He's Donner. Whoa. Already?

He's Donner. South Florida guy. He's Donner. Yeah. They're saying, look for that to happen. It's like, really? That'd be wild. The Miami Dolphins need another running back down there?

They need another weapon? Unbelievable what they could potentially accomplish if they get Dalvin Cook back there. He runs straight up and right by people. Oh, yeah. I don't know. They like Madison, I guess. They like Alex Madison.

He's cheaper, too, I assume. Yes. So they're willing to move on. This is that running back market. And now he was supposed to be traded before the draft. Draft kind of came and went. Now reports are saying it ain't over. No.

It ain't over. Still trying to potentially move on. Crazy to me, AJ. It would make a lot of sense, though. South Florida guy, just stay on down, go there, and just try to score 85 points a game. That's what it seems like they're trying to do. And also, I mean, this is from JPA Football tweeted this,

via the Miami Herald, which is good. Like, he could potentially come to the Colts, too. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean. Oh, yeah. Him and Jonathan Taylor split backfield with Anthony Richardson. I know Miami's home and everything like that, but also think about it. Indy's got palm trees. We just planted two.

Don't worry about it. It'd be a hell of a stable, too, because they signed Jeff Wilson to an extension, Raheem Mostert to an extension, so he'd be that three-headed monster. That'd be absurd. Dude from Texas A&M, pretty highem Mostert to an extension. So he'd be that three-headed monster. That'd be absurd. Dude from Texas A&M, pretty high. No offense to any of them.

If Dalvin Cook gets rolling, I don't think he's part of a three-headed monster. Yeah, that's the thing. And they're saying they're going to release him because no one wants to take on the contract. So he's picking anyways. Come to A&D. Baltimore. Baltimore would be pretty sweet as well. He gets released.

Yeah, well, yeah, I guess. Yeah, it depends on what the roster looks like I would imagine he would want to play Miami I would like to have a moment of silence Here to start this third hour I don't like doing this at all But it has just come to my attention That Russell Wilson dorsal fin football

Is no longer a part of our operation And the only reason why I'm recognizing that Is because I see my big dumb fucking face Right there staring at me for the first time today What is that why is that Ty this is your newest action figure uh from WWE this is pretty fucking sweet I mean you I think someone has made one before for you that like they made on their own but there's puppies available in stores if I'm not mistaken that's pretty fucking cool that's very interesting you know I did not know that was happening and then I started seeing it on the internet. Then you have one here

and then Zito tells me during a break oh yeah, we bought four of them. God damn, I didn't even know there was four in existence of this whole thing. Shout out to you guys and shout out to them using that photo of me. Look at that photo. Have you ever seen a dumber looking me? That's a WWE superstar photo.

There's one on the back too. Look how dumb I look right there, AJ. Looks good. Can we see the back? Well, I was going to say, would you like to know who else is in Series 139 of these collectibles? So that's what it is? I know nothing about this. I also need to figure out the business of this whole thing.

What is going on? But anyways, go ahead. So five wrestlers in Series 139. We got you, of course, your your first time appearance john cena flip it around let him see those live morgan matt riddle and the hulkster hulk hogan brother i didn't know that yes good company to keep what a crew man what a surprise honestly i had no idea and you know i like to kind of be on top of everything we got going on and cooking. When that one hit the internet

just a few days ago, I was very surprised. It's sweet. Holy shit, I got an action figure out there. Thank you, boys, for repping. Now, with that being said, I will miss that dorsal fin football. Me too. I got your moves on the back here. What are they? I don't even know what they are. Punt kick and superplex. They put the punt in there?

Yeah. That only happened twice, I think. That happened... It was so powerful. And you are also, your style is brawler. You're goddamn right. That's big rights. I'm throwing a lot of rights when you watch me. A lot of big time. A lot of big time rights. You know what I mean? Brawler.

He's a brawler. I might put that in my Twitter bio. What are the wrestlers? What do they consider? What's their style? Well, you got grappler, brawler, high flyer, powerhouse, and technician. Okay. High flyer, too, though.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, hold on. That's what I'm saying. Powerhouse, too. I mean, I haven't gotten a chance to really showcase the legs yet, but we could have a little powerhouse. The technician thing, you can keep that one away from my name for as long as possible. That's Cena. I got into the game way too You can keep that one away from my name for as long as possible. That's Cena.

I got into the game way too late to do that, but that's really cool. I appreciate the people at the WWE, honestly. Hell yeah. Really good people over there to me. The best. Legit. Very, very good to me, and I am very, very thankful for that. Now, let's talk about some more news.

Ed Oliver, Bills D-Tackle, has signed a four-year, $45 million guaranteed deal with $68 million in total to stay with the Buffalo Beals. We'll be talking to Brandon Bean, the general manager that got that deal done just a few days ago here in about six minutes or so. This guy's a dog. Anytime you're spending $45 million in June on a D tackle, you love him on your team. How do you feel about it, AJ? I love it. Into your deal, I'm that you draft, you develop.

I'm all for them keeping him. I know he had one year left on his deal, so I'm sure he wouldn't be back. He knows that they have their window open right now. Josh Allen, the quarterback, is a stud. But I like how, like Ed Oliver, if you see him, I honestly don't know his exact dimensions, but the dude is so powerful and so quick to me. His twitch is unbelievable.

And he looks very lean almost, but he obviously has so much power. Go ahead, Tone. I felt like this is a good story, too, because I feel like the first couple, maybe even three years, Ed Oliver was not the guy they wanted. Yeah, I heard the bang. The bang happened. What is blowing up in his office? I'm a little bit worried.

The Moroccan Lord? I think the guy that lives in the tubes wakes up around this time. Jesus Christ? Could be. Our Lord is in Jesus. No way he's sleeping in until 225. Our Lord is Savior? There's no way.

Not a chance. Jesus Christ. The Spirit is sleeping in until 225, although this was previously a house in which he lived in. I don't think he's the one in the pipes, but there needs to be something figured out. There's a big boom every other day that takes place. Maybe a raccoon in the vents or something. A crow stuck in the vents? Could be.

Maybe false. Maybe we just hear it fall. We haven't seen the crows lately either. It's all the geese pooping everywhere. Yeah, the Canadian geese who are literally lawn terrorists have scared the crows away, which I don't love. I would much rather make friends with crows than with Canadian geese, but here we are.

Bring Chuck to run him away. That's what golf courses do. You have a dog, chase him off. Chuck was running sprints last night. Oh, yeah, sure. Okay. Chuck looks really good. To the dog food, to the dog bowl. Is that a coincidence? Is that a coincidence? Well, well, well.

Oh, Jake Herbstreet comes walking out of the room in which there was a big boom from this side just casually walks through he doesn't even know that we just had a full conversation about whatever he did i didn't do it what happened in the bathroom he was in the room that happened oh okay he's not too busy worried about cincinnati reds baseball chatter now he's out here blowing something up in there. He's a great addition to the office.

He's a good kid. I'm a big fan of his. Pretty good at golf. I don't know what the hell he's doing over here, though. I don't know what's going on. Anyways, Ed Oliver, though, you're saying at the beginning maybe it wasn't everything that they thought he was going to be, and now here he is signing a $68 million extension.

What was he, 11 or something like that? I believe overall pick. And then, yeah, just like continually got better and better each year. I feel like that whole Bills team has over his tenure. Good for the Buffalo Bills who, once again, we'll be talking to Brandon Bean here in about four minutes or so, the general manager of that team. Their culture seems great.

McDermott was on it. I mean, like, we have a lot of Bills on the show because the Buffalo Bills are like, hey, if you guys want anybody on our show, literally just ask. And we're like, hey, how about this? Okay. Alright, cool. How about, yeah. And then they'll send like, hey, Mitch Morris, fan of the show, you guys ever want him on?

Like, just say good. I'm like, deal. And then boom, he comes on. It's like, we're very thankful for the Buffalo Bills, AJ Hawk. They seem to get it over there from the top down, don't they? Yeah, but that's the thing when we go to ESPN, sorry about it. You're Western New York, not fucking the big city. Sorry about it. That's right.

Sorry about it. Ain't that right, AJ? I guess that is right. I sent over an itinerary, a detailed list of things that we can no longer do whenever it goes on air. Talk Buffalo Beals is one of them. That's right. Talk Cowboys more was another one of them.

Exactly. So sorry about it. We've got to sub the Beals out, get all that we can for that Dallas Cowboy talk that's coming in right behind it once we go to ESPN. But these are the things. These are the things that we decided to give up on the program. That's right. What are you going to do? We'll be good soldiers. We'll

fall in line and we'll do it because that's what's expected of us and that's what we're supposed to do. But not happy. No, I'm not happy about it. It is what it is. You think we never want to say the Buffalo Beals name on our show ever again? No, we don't want to have to do that. Of course not. No. Just easy come, easy go sometimes.

Got to do what you got to do. That's the way it works. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, what was the tweet that said now they're not going to be a small market team anymore with this new stadium? Is that how it works? See that tweet? Something about, like, not going to be, yeah, whatever they said.

Something like that. And just because there is people out there that can't catch sarcasm, we're joking about it. Just a joke. Just kidding around. Just goshing. We will talk about the Buffalo Bills. Isn't that cool? Yeah, we will.

Ari Miroff, MySportsUpdate. I don't know if he's still with Pro Football Focus or with somebody else now, but he is all over everything happening in the NFL. An incredible follow. The Bills are having a groundbreaking ceremony this morning at the site of where their new stadium will be built. Construction is expected to be complete in time for the 2026. Bill Cio, Ron Rocher.

The days of us operating as a small market team is in the past all right so if he said is instead of r because he's talking about days i don't know how proper that english is i will assume the chief operating officer had proper grammar whenever he was speaking and i was wrong nonetheless yeah we got big time stadium aj we're in the modern age now that's right not only do we have Josh Allen, who's an international sensation, a superstar, dating a celeb. That's right. Oh, yeah. We have Vaughn Miller, who's obviously one dancing with the stars, big-time superstar.

We got McDermott, who looks like Bill Burr. People sometimes even get him confused. A lot of Bill Burrs out there in the world, red-headed, bald, jocked, kind of slender build. Yep. Then you got this guy ladies and gentlemen the general manager of the buffalo bills a man who was at the groundbreaking ceremony this morning for the brand new buffalo bill stadium highmark field that is has uh 850 million public money that'll all get paid off just like the minnesota vikings right of course and who knows how many billions behind

it as well gonna be state-of-the-art and beautiful for the great Bills mafia, the man who built the team on the field that is certainly expecting a Super Bowl run, general manager of the Buffalo Bills,

Brandon Bean. Hey! What's up, dude? Appreciate that intro, Pat. Hey, you're all suited and booed this morning. You look real good. Hey, you had your Sunday

best on, didn't you? It was a big day this morning. How were the vibes, obviously? What are the expectations? And how long before you get to say or have any input in any of this? Yeah, you know, it's funny. We had a meeting starting last August, believe it or not, about certain things just because they've already had to do so many things planning-wise

so that they could literally start digging now. So we've had a lot of conversations offline with how we want, where the locker room is, the size, what needs to go in it. You know, we're going to stay in our training facility here. So we'll just be across the street, but still there's certain things, you know, as a, as a player that you still want to have access to on game day that, you know, in your locker room, maybe you have it here at the facility,

but just all that kind of stuff. of stuff, we've started that process. So it's exciting now that the shovels are in the ground officially. I'm happy football is getting asked some questions in the design. And we assume that everything you guys do up there is right. I can't wait to see it fully constructed. Go ahead, AJ. Brandon, do you have any idea how long this has been in talks, like when they initially started working on this project

to eventually break ground like you guys have? Yeah, I mean, it was pre-COVID. So it's definitely – I don't know if it was 2018, but I know by 2019 conversations were definitely going that our lease here in this stadium – I mean, this stadium, they've worked hard. It's 50 years old to keep it efficient where you can run, but definitely outdated.

And so a lot of things had to go into place to extend the lease here long enough to get this new one built. So exciting times for sure. You're the guy that built the team. We're acting like you're the guy that actually owns the team and had to make all the stadium decisions. So we appreciate you answering the questions here. You did have a suit on and you were at the site.

True. So answer the questions here you did have a suit on yep and you were at the site true so answer the questions dude yeah um i i see i seen in the projections not a dome right not a dome obviously buffalo has the incredible weather advantage if you want to look at it that way as potentially having 72 inches of snow or a full blizzard out of nowhere and it's kind of a part of nfl football now at this point buffalo blizzard december football january football like this is what the nfl is there was never consideration to have this thing covered so that you know maybe the super bowl could take a trip or something of that nature yeah i mean as much as you'd love to get a super bowl we just feel like buffalo when you think buffalo bills you think. To me, it'd be like doing

it at Lambeau. If you put a dome in Lambeau, that just wouldn't seem right. We like playing outside. The good thing for fans, and I don't quote on this, but a certain number, I want to say half to 60% are going to be covered with a tarp. When you go to Seattle or whatever,

it kind of goes over. Another positive is it's going to be grass. And, you know, we have these debates of turf versus grass. So that was one of the big things that we pushed for. So it's going to be grass like Lambeau has and have all that coil underneath to keep the field warm. So very excited about that. Okay, so this is a big-time conversation obviously happening right now

around the NFL. And I don't know how much it came up in your discussions of when you were creating it. Like, we're definitely having grass because it's better for the players, and the players want it. Did you guys see the European stadiums that have, like, the grass, and then they kind of transform, and then, like, wood comes up, and it's like, oh, Taylor Swift can play here whenever she wants, and then it disappears, and, like, a basketball goal with Final Four can play here.

Are you thinking about those things, or is it just grass for football with some warming heating coils underneath it like there is at Lambeau? I think there's some synthetic turf mixed in there as well at the Lambeau one. I'm not 100% certain or not. Yeah, I mean, it's not going to have that. Those are cool. I have seen those videos. Okay, cool, cool.

You know, I think if we were in New York City or something like that, you know, L.A, a big venue that's going to get all sorts of other concerts, soccer, whatever it is, it's really going to be built football-based. There will be some concerts, but it's going to be pretty good. Like I said, it'll have the heating coil. We talked about it three or four years ago with the Pagoulas about doing it here in our current stadium. And it was just going to be quite an undertaking to get it done here. And so we, you know, basically at that time they committed,

once we get this stadium, you know, we're all in on, you know, doing grass. Hell yeah. Three years from now, that thing will obviously open. You're still going to be there, obviously. This thing that you've built. McDermott's going to be there. Josh Allen's going to be there, unless you want to trade him to indianapolis and i don't want to give up on anthony richardson yet but if you would like to trade one for one i mean i think

we would definitely listen there let's talk about the football team that you put together you just signed ed oliver to uh an extension 45 million guaranteed 68 as a total there in june was this just something you want to get done before training camp? The timing seems like a time when not a lot of deals get done. How did this all come to be? Yeah, you know, we had looked at Ed's, you know, situation last year, talked about a little bit in August, but ultimately we weren't on the same page there. But, you know, I commend, you know, his agent and him. And we kind of said, listen, we'll push Paul still after the season and let me get through the draft. And so Ed's been here since we drafted him high in 2019, a guy I think his best football is still ahead of him.

Unfortunately, first game of the year, he suffered a high ankle, which set him back a little bit playing the Rams. But he's a guy that's still, you know, he's a big part of our interior, just sometimes hasn't finished on some sacks that he's ready to do. But he makes our defense better when he's out there. He's been very disruptive in the backfield. And like I said, I think his best football is ahead of him. Go ahead, AJ. Is it possible to have hard and fast rules on when you negotiate?

You hear people every once in a while, players will say, hey, once the season starts, I'm not negotiating. Or maybe teams don't like to do it once it's started. Do you guys have anything like that? Is that a possibility? Yeah, I mean, listen, my preference is not to do them in season, but certain circumstances, you know, dictate differently, and I know we did Taron Johnson, you know, our really good nickel a couple years ago in season, and what happened was it was the same year we had done Josh, and so we were still working through the financials of Josh's situation. It went up against, you know, the end of training camp.

And so I told his people, listen, I know we couldn't get to it now, but maybe during the bye or if we find a lull. So we got it done around week four or week five. It was more our fault why we couldn't engage at that time versus his. So, you know, we worked on it a couple of weeks and got it done, but I, in general, I would rather not do it in season just to keep the distraction or frustration, you know, cause it can be a roller coaster for the player, you know, here and, you know, compared to this guy, maybe they see themselves differently or not, but you know, ultimately

if it makes sense for both parties, you know, I'm not hesitant to do it whenever. Yeah. The dollar value is the real-life Madden rating score. Like whenever the team is saying you're worth this amount, and then you compare yourself to everybody else's dollar value, and you're saying that my Madden rating is below, that's basically what

it is. It's a real-life, that's the first time you ever get a number put on you. Like, my first time going into negotiation, it was like, okay, I'm going to into negotiation, it was like, okay, I'm going to find out right now, like, actual value in what they think of me. And then they said something. I'm like, that guy is getting paid that? Damn, I didn't know that that was where.

So you're right. I think keeping the drama out of the season is good. You've been making a lot of moves here, though. Just signed Leonard Floyd, too. Was that Von Miller signing? Or how do we go about bringing him onto the team? And what were you thinking there? It feels like every move you make is like, okay boom we're good you know what I mean and now I

don't know how many other moves you're making that we don't talk about or hear about but every move you're making it feels like is a massive like let's go let's try to win this thing is Leonard one of those yeah I mean we always believe in in trying to be strong up front and we've really tried to solidify our O-line. And then now this just gives us another body, another pass rusher. You know, protect your quarterback and get after the other team's quarterback. And we've faced Leonard, you know, over at the Rams this year, and he's a player that last three years, you know, he's had close to 30 sacks.

He's been right around that 9.5 to 10. And, you know, just another guy that we can, you know, add up, you know, add along with that. And, yes, when I asked Vaughn about him, once, once we started talking to Leonard and his people, I definitely checked in with Vaughn to see his thoughts and, you know, he signed off great guy fits our culture and, you know, you know, we'd jump in here and he'd be excited to have him on the team. How important is it whenever somebody plays against you and you get to see

them kind of do their thing versus maybe watching tape? Because I think there's some guys that, like, will kill a team, and then all of a sudden when that free agency comes, it's like that team's like, get that fucking guy on our team. When some other teams maybe don't value them as much, is that a real thing whenever you're trying to evaluate who you want to join your team? Like, I've seen him live do this. Is that a big indicator, a big read for you?

It is. There's definitely some guys that are thorns in your side especially when they're division players uh damian harris uh who we signed here this offseason running back i swear uh he saw the buffalo bills and and it was like oh i'm gonna have my game of the year right now uh multiple times so you remember the crazy win game we had here a couple years ago it was like like 50-mile-an-hour win. You couldn't hardly throw the ball. And he runs a little tall sweep for about 65 yards touchdown. And that was the difference.

That ended up being the difference in the game. So, I think Mack Jones threw the ball like five times and they still beat us. Yeah, I remember he checked a one and Bill got so pissed. Ripped him. He had that Navy mask on. And it was like he was wearing the COVID mask. I was like, here we go, triple option. We are going in here.

That was a memorable game. I completely forgot about that. I'm happy to hear you said that, though. Speaking of signing guys, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Brandon, speaking of those big moves Pat was talking about, I'm sure you've seen it. Anytime DeAndre Hopkins' name gets brought up, he's gone on a couple podcasts and said, you know i want to play for the bills they have kind of everything on my checklist that

i'm looking for and granted you guys don't have unlimited money and he's going to command a little bit more than just some guy off the scrap heap but is that something that you'll definitely continue to kick the tires on uh before he actually ends up somewhere he will command more money than a guy for scrappyheap, won't he? Yeah, I mean, you answered your question there a little bit, Ty. We are all about people that want to come to Buffalo. We love it, especially if they fit. And obviously, DeAndre, he's a heck of a talent.

Speaking of a thorn in your side, called a Hail Mary on us a few years ago in the COVID year to finish that game. Hail Mary. We had our three best DBs on him, and somehow, someway, he came that way. Hey, do you remember his hand being – his hand? Like the – Nothing. Boom! Nothing.

Just some respect for him. But, yeah, it would definitely have to fit with how we would fit a structure of a salary and all that. So never ruling it out, but know he's a good player, and he'll probably command a decent contract. All right, so you guys are negotiating right now? Here we go. What's the number at? That's as far as I'm going.

Oh, yes! Okay, all right. Hey, pull on the ticket. After being pushed to give an answer about negotiations with DHOP, he said, that's as far as I'm going. What does that mean? Ooh, find out more later in the year. Tone has a question for you.

Brad, is there a different, is there like more pressure or a different feeling or something in the air when literally anyone in the AFC East, it feels like, could go on a run to the Super Bowl if things went their way? Like, is there a difference this season versus maybe other seasons where other teams in the division aren't as strong? But this year, it feels like the AFC East could be one of the best divisions in football. Yeah, I mean, it looks to be a gauntlet.

If all teams stay healthy, that's going to be six of our toughest games of the year just going against those guys. Obviously, the Patriots, anytime you play a Bill Belichick team, and Bill O'Brien coming in there to kind of correct some of their offense, their defense is always, you know, a thorn in our side. And then the Dolphins last year, you know, came up here with a rookie quarterback and, you know, had us on the brink of losing that game in the first round of the playoffs, and we split in the season.

So having two of them back healthy and adding, they've added more speed to their team. They got to be one of the fastest teams I've seen. So a lot of credit to what they've got going. And then say no more of the Jets. You know, Aaron Rodgers, multiple MVP. He's your co-host anyway on this show. Every Tuesday during the season.

Maybe next year, we don't know. We hope so. I'm sure he'll be back. Don't you want to say he sucks right now? He's bad? He's lost it? Don't you want to say it? I don't want to.

No. No. We open up with them. I don't need to give him any ammo to light us up for sure. Shoot, he played here last year, and their team was struggling in a little bit of a funk, and that game could have got out of reach. We were kind kind of starting and he just started being Aaron Rodgers in the fourth quarter and I was just like clock run out clock run out like we we're not doing well and he's

coming back yeah he's a real deal the AFC East has become fantastic and obviously you guys have been the top of the class for so long because you've made such an incredible team you've pieced it together over there with the culture mattering feels like everybody we talked to in there the humans that you bring in really matter let's talk about the leader josh allen that seems like a human who i would love to be a teammate with sounds like that's what everybody says like hey josh allen's one of the boys he has people over he's beloved by everybody he's always upbeat having a good time now he's dating celebrities i mean what what is is the growth of Josh Allen been like from your seat as the guy who had to draft him kind of go through, right? Like there was a year there where this guy could jump

over people. He can't throw a football. Oh, he has big hands. He could throw the ball far. That means you're going to be an NFL quarterback. No, get this guy the hell out of here. You had to take a lot of questions about that because you got rid of some people you had to really settle in and say hey we want to empower josh allen and know that josh allen this is his team you did all that stuff and now we're at the point where everybody's like how do you find the next josh allen what has it been like watching it all happen and what are your thoughts on him and his future yeah i mean josh uh just uh to watch his journey and, as you said, him coming into the league, not being – he was very – a lot of people were against him and just saying he was going to be a buster. He was the reason that we weren't going to be able to win here and not the future of the league. And Josh just – he's his own worst critic.

So anything out there that was being said about him, it didn't't bother because he probably was saying it about himself. And he's just, you know, very humble for all his success, you know, even some of the great games he's played in the playoffs and wherever else. But I'm super proud of Josh. I think the biggest thing that I've seen from Josh is his command of the team. You know, you go from commanding one side of the ball on the offense to every player respects him. He's here every single day of OTAs. He may have missed one for an outside event. But other than that, he's here. He's involved. He's leading.

He's talking to the receivers on the side. He's comfortable in his own skin. He's not afraid to – he can talk to the governor or he could talk to a homeless person. Like no one – Josh doesn't shy away from anyone. Great with kids. Does so much in the community that doesn't get seen. Plenty of stuff does, but there's plenty I've seen Josh Allen do

that he's not looking for praise. So, we're glad we got him, and hopefully his best football is ahead of him too. Oh, sounds like you got the perfect quarterback. You sure you don't want to trade him? Yeah. You know what I mean? Good.

You sure you don't want to trade him? It'd be awesome to have him in our – Yeah. Wouldn't it be cool to have him on your team? Oh, yeah. Green Bay, you kidding me? Based on the same weather as Buffalo? Oh, you said he's comfortable in his own skin.

There's a lot of it. He's fucking huge. There's a lot of it. He is so big. So fast. So smart. Can't wait to watch it all. Go ahead, AJ.

Brandon, have you had fun paying attention to watching Coach McDermott during his OTAs and getting back to his roots, calling the defense? I would imagine it's a little more spirited for him. When we talked to him, he said he was excited and it felt like he was really getting around the guys a lot. Yeah, no, you can see, you know, at first, you know, when Leslie Frazier steps down, you're trying to figure out how are we going to do this, what's the dynamics.

And, you know, over time, once it settled in that Sean was, you know, that our best move was for Sean to take over the play calling, you could see that just like that vibrant energy, like, man, some excitement. You know, just this is how I earned this job, being shot of calling plays and being a good coordinator. So, no, he's been great. You can see the energy, the focus. I think our players are feeding off of it.

He's fired up. He's had to change how we do some different things in practice where, you know, he might have been running the two-minute drill as a neutral party. Well, now he's over there on the defense trying to stop Josh Allen. Chirpin. Yeah, so he's a competitive dude. When we get to camp, the chirpin will only pick up, I'm sure. I can't wait.

September 11th, Monday Night Football. You guys are the Jets. That's going to be legendary. I mean, you said we open up with Aaron. What a way to start a season. I mean, that's a big deal, obviously. Yeah. Now, I figured, you know, you're always trying to figure out what they're going to do to you.

And, you know, I said if it's going to be – I felt sure Aaron Rodgers, New York Jets, is going to be one of the opening primetime games, whether it's Sunday night, Monday night, whatever. And so that was one of the teams that we talked internally. We could see them either making them come here, but it even makes sense sending us to New York, the mega market that it is. So it makes a lot of sense coming you know, coming out of the gates, the team that's won the last few years of the East against the team that's,

you know, a lot of people are probably predicting to win, you know, now that they've had it. Oh, I like that. You're saying that, huh? You got that on the wall? Oh, Aaron Rodgers. Oh, they're going to win the AFC. I like that.

I heard a little bit of motivation in there. No, listen, we'll find out real fast uh where we stand playing their team they they listen they beat us without aaron rogers last year in new york and it was a dog fight here for us to beat him so um adding him is going to make them really salty you have to keep patience at the beginning of the season if everybody like if you're not playing your best football and like how do you go about doing that especially expectations as high as they are for your team yeah I mean it's a long season it really is I know that's cliche but you can definitely you never know when you're going to go in a funk you know you never want to but rarely do you go through a season and not have some ups

and downs and and one side of the ball or both sides of the ball are just not in sync and in a funk so you just hope that if listen if you if you start slow, that that's your funk and that you find your rhythm and you stay with it. You definitely can't panic. I mean, 17 games is a long season. Seven teams now get in the playoffs. So, again, the AFC is loaded, and, you know, you could see if teams beat each other up, maybe a nine-win team gets in.

Yeah, you've got to keep your patience. You've done that throughout your entire time there in Buffalo, and it's led through a lot of success. You know what I can't keep my patience about, Brandon? What's that? That guy you were hanging out with this morning at the groundbreaking site, okay, the commissioner of our league, our commissioner, my commissioner, a man that I have a lot of admiration for and respect for.

The things that he has done for the NFL, right, business-wise, game-wise, worldwide acclamation, everything. You're the one that told him take the kickoff out of the game? Are you the one that said that? Is that what you talked about today while they were putting the shovels in the ground? Were you like, why'd you do that to the kickoff? What the hell? Is that what you talked about today while they were putting the shovels in the ground? Were you like, why'd you do that to the kickoff? What the hell?

Is that what you said to them? I did not. Out of respect, we were here for a different reason. But I would have rather, personally, the kickoff rule would stay the way it was. But it is what it is. Here's what I'm at least glad that it's only a one-year trial and that it's not set in stone and that hopefully next year we come up with something better.

I can promise you, I signed special teamers here to play and cover, so it makes no sense for us to not want that rule. Okay, yeah, because you guys take advantage of the special teams department, which it seems like all the great teams do, and we're losing a little bit of strategy. If you see them, just let them know, I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. That's right. You know what I mean? I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. That's right. You know what I mean?

I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. But there has to be an adult in the room, I guess, which is probably what he's saying. Hopefully, like I said, hopefully this year shows that maybe this is not the right solution, and next year we come up with a better solution. We're all for player safety, but not to take away from the game. Okay, so we'll have a year think tank. There we go.

We're all good. We're back. Thank you so much for bringing the good news. How's the golf game? It's getting better. It's not where I want it, but it's getting better. We've got a tournament coming up this weekend, so hopefully my game will at least be A-B+.

What are you thinking? Is this member-guest, like that type of tournament? It's like a member-guest. Yeah, it's member-member. Oh, shit. So you're like a real player. I don't know about that, but I'm playing. AJ, this guy's a player, isn't he?

Obviously, he's probably – what's his handicap? You scratch or better? Like a four. Jeez. Pretty good. Okay. He'll shoot 68. Sandbagger.

No. I won't shoot 68. No, 69 though, baby. That's right in there. I might't choose 68. No, 69. No, baby. That's right in there. I might miss a putt. You know how those greens get. Remember, remember.

All right. Well, good luck. We appreciate your time. Thank you for everything. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Brandon Bean. Good guy. Always gives us so much time.

I mean, no way that's a one-year trial, but yeah. No, but listen, you kind of heard a little maybe thought like, all all right let's come up with something better let's at least come up with something yeah but the numbers are going to be down we know the numbers are going to be down yeah but like what if this was roger goodell saying like i get what you guys are saying okay but we need to do something about this particular stat that we're seeing so let's do it on a year basis you come up with something else we'll do it now what does that mean don't know. That's even real, but that's at least a better positive outlook on it than I'd heard thus far. Obviously,

we've covered it a little bit more than you. At the very least, maybe it gives one of these special teams coordinators some time to either get together and like, okay, here's a way we can save this. Because I think, same deal, it'll probably universally, every special teams coordinator next year isn't going to just be like, oh, that was actually a great idea.

Let's keep this. You know, all those guys are still going to fucking hate it. So you heard Bean talk about it, though, like, hey, I sign special teamers and pay them because we view that as a – Oh, yeah. Because in Buffalo with the weather, can't always just kick touchbacks. No. So you can pin teams.

Yep. You know what I mean? Which is part of the strategy that is now just away from not being in the game anymore. Right. So I would assume what Brandon Bean said is accurate, and let's assume that our commissioner, Roger Goodell, will get it all figured out.

Soon. Now, if you're a Green Bay Packers fan, I would advise you to cover your eyes. Oh, no. There's a video coming out of the New York Jets OTAs that is certainly delicious and delightful. Ladies and gentlemen, one of Taylor Swift's biggest fans, rocking the eight, drops back.

How you doing? Keep it moving. Deep ball in the bucket. The 55-year-old man still got it. Wow. A.J., what a beautiful ball here. It looks like he's having fun, too, with the calf strain. Got a little bit of a little tight on his right leg there,

looking so cool, throwing such a good ball. Damn. It's the best June ball I've ever seen Aaron throw. Wow. Look at him look off, too. He's looking left, looking left. Ball safety. There we go.

Nope. You know why he's doing all that? So you know when you think somebody's watching you in the bathroom, you will wash your hands longer than if you knew nobody was watching you? Yep. Do you know whenever you're doing anything, you try to represent the best version of yourself if you feel like people are watching you just because it's a natural habit. He knows that every single rep in film, especially if they're saying that he's in charge of shit, he's like, hey, I'm going to look off here.

The reason why I'm looking off is going to open this. You need to run this. He has to be like the perfect version of himself, especially if he's the one doing the coaching in the entire meetings because he has to make it as realistic to what the game's going to be. Because if it's not, then they'll say, oh, bullshit, this guy's lying to us. So he's almost like the best version of himself in June in OTAs, spinning that thing, Ty. What a throw. Mastered that in Green Bay. Incredible throw, but I think I'm actually on the other side of it because when you were

saying that, I was like, oh, no, this is going to be a bad clip from Jordan Love. I wasn't even thinking like, oh, this is going to be a great pass from Rodgers. I tell you what, I've seen him make that throw around this time a million times before, so I'm glad Jets fans can have something like that. It's a little early in OTAs, right? It's a little early in OTAs.

That was only the last couple years. Maybe a decade. I haven't seen this in June. June 5 all? It's been a while, but that's immediately where my mind went was, oh, no, did fucking Jordan Love do something wrong? He didn't. He didn't. So I'm in a good spot right now. I'm glad Rodgers is out there having fun.

He's just playing football. That's right. See how calm Salah looks? He knows. Chilling. He's in the back just like, this is fucking awesome. Do you remember when I said we need to sign a new offensive coordinator? We'll bring in that Nathaniel Hackett guy?

Mm-hmm. He's like, we didn't even sign him, actually. This is the offensive coordinator. That's what they're saying right out of the gate. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. AJ, you know what they're saying over there? Like, Aaron's...

That feels that way, doesn't it? Suit up. Chinstrap, button not on, but button back. Old school. Yeah, and he wouldn't wear that, you know, the sports bra that all these dudes are wearing everybody oh he won't wear the gps no every sport has people wearing these things it's like tweet i understand appreciate what they're doing and i know they're awfully uncomfortable i hate i and i look terrible luckily they were doing it when i was we didn't they weren't like super mandatory so we had we had like long sleeves like i think it was

t-shirt or long sleeve with the thing to be able to pin in the back of the neck right there. I cut the sleeves off whenever I had it. Then I lost it, if you do recall, because I was sitting in the back of a golf cart going as fast as I could downhill. I was the fastest GPS on the field that day. Whenever they read the stats and analytics, they had to say, Pat McAfee went 22 miles an hour today. Then they'd have to get into T.Y. Hilton, went 19 miles an hour. And then this whole thing, just because I thought it was such a joke that I was being forced to wear one.

They obviously took it from me immediately upon that happening in training camp. But now it's just like standard operating procedure. You have the sports bra looking thing. Everybody wears it. And then they just keep track of everything. And do the guys ever hear their stats or analytics, or is it only used by the people that are above them? Does it have to be a sports bra that everybody wears?

The sports bra thing is massively uncomfortable. I know they used to have your tight, whatever shirt you wore under your pads, they would make those and put little pockets in the back. We could put them in. That's the best case scenario, I think. But, yeah, the players hear about it because that goes to the strength coach and the strength coach will sit there and be like hey you should talk to schlage sometime about this he he's big into this like hey bro like you took so many reps at this 89 of your max speed all this stuff we're

going to sit you down today because of that and we're going to take you're not going to do individual you're not doing team like they craft their load management through those things in theory i get it that's smart yeah in theory i get it like everything like yeah it's cool to a point but like you can't it can't be like the be all end all well how do we feel about the air conditioning a kid's gonna die is that real what how does it work not in our game oh we're not in football yeah why you think they're gonna be fucking all super nice and cool and they're gonna think they're super cool but their body's 145 degrees, and they're going to fucking pass out and die.

That's a guy that has a heart issue. True. Wasn't able to have Red Bull in shots whenever we go out in public. Have to do one with ginger ale. Yep. Gingy. But I bet for the players it's very nice. I think it's brilliant.

It's just low cold air somehow. So, wait. Every helmet needs it. Yes, so the helmet has the capability to have a full fan in it. It's going to cool off the player's head, but Diggs thinks their body will not be cooled off. Correct. That's right.

Okay. He's worried about their chest. Because if the head cools off, that doesn't mean the rest of the body will cool off. Oh, I'm fucking nice and cool. Aim for the head, the body dies. We're at the helmet technology. You're right, Greg.

We're at the technology stage where we can't guarantee no concussion with the helmet, but we can put a fucking AC in. AC unit. This is like Xzibit got the hold. Yeah. In my helmet. He got a hold of the helmets. Yeah. We just put an air conditioner in your helmet.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Took in a West Coast custom. Did the helmet get better? It got cooler? Mm-hmm. It's actually worse because we had to carve out some of the back. Less padding now.

I looked at it. I'm like, that seems awesome. But also, aren't we in the middle of helmet creation where they're trying to figure out the best helmet? If it also has the added package of AC involved, I think we're getting there. Helmet plus. But, you know, they're adding that thing for quarterbacks. An airbag. That's like this on the backside of that thing.

So whenever they do the fallback, it has a little bit more protection. And what if it is just the fan from the air conditioner blowing up? At the ground. You know what I mean? That'd be smart. This show is the worst. We are not allowed to do what we did today. Innovating.

Any of it. Let's go to the fence. We were told that old our commissioner was watching today's program, by the way, from the Bills facility. Okay. That's why when I brought it up, I thought I was disappointed from what I've been told. He had potentially been watching that. I was disappointed. Still am. Still am.

Still am. Good, well, you were doing your thing. That's right. You were our commissioner. What if the players, though, what if the special teams players decide, hey, we are against this rule. We don't want this to stay in.

We're going to make, although they're fair catches, we're going to make a pact. We're going to be extra physical. We're going to try and knock each other out on every fair catch. Yeah, that's not, that won't be how it goes. Just throwing it out there. Just spitballing. I know it's probably not going to happen. It's just not reality. Like I wish it would.

But we all know that team in New England. That's right. When the time comes, they're going to take advantage of this rule. Absolutely. Boom. And they're not the only team. Everybody else is like well if this is what we have to do this is what we have to do then and they'll just they'll just

do it you know what i mean so there is to win there's no honor amongst thieves no right in this particular thing all's fair in love and war even if they hate it completely they will not not abuse it no you know and that's just n football, baby. Protect the shield. Anything to win. Let's go to Josh in Missouri on the 5RNG phone line. What's going on, Josh? Hey, Pat. Hey, boys. How's it going today? Keep it going. Great.

Good stuff. Good stuff. Sorry I totally messed that up. No, no. So did we, Josh. Good call. I appreciate it. Hey, two-parter question for you here on the receiving room here for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Is this kind of a put-up or shut-up year for Deontay Johnson? I mean, the last couple years, you know, you got Roethlisberger on the way out,

Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky splitting it up last year. But, I mean, overall performance-wise, I don't know if that's the number one receiver. And jumping back on that, can the con artist maybe get DeHop in if the whole Deontay Johnson thing, you know, if it's time to let that one go. Josh in Missouri has a question seemingly for Tone Diggs. Tone, why receiver course stink through Pittsburgh? No, actually, it's fucking quite fine. Maybe DeHop would have been an option if Allen Robinson didn't get brought in.

Fun fact, Deontay Johnson's stats in his first four years are better than Antonio Brown's stats in his first four years. So maybe we give the guy a little bit more time because he's been fucking pretty good. What about last season? The town just said, hey, Josh. Last season. Why don't we do some research? Yeah. I don't know. Figure it out. He was a punt returner, wasn't he, Deontay? I thought he was supposed

to be a punt returner and then he just became an incredible water shaper. I don't know. He had 86 catches. Chase Claypool was the one. Then Deontay was kind of doing his thing underneath and Chase leaves and he becomes the guy and Ben dropping off like, hit! Get the ball out of there and it's Deontay Johnson, right? Deontay can kind of do it all. You know, Pickens is kind of the deep threat right now

and then you have Allen Robinson working. You got Muth fucking working. I mean, we're fucking fine. Yeah, people are just mad about Deontay because he didn't score last year. Yeah, he didn't. A lot of drops, too. We are only 94 days away from NFL football to celebrate their greatest ticketing app on planet Earth and

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Let's go to Brendan in Ohio. What's going on, Brendan? What's going on, man? What's going on, man? How's it going? Keep it going, Brendan. Love it. Yep, yep. Since the man just retired last week,

I wanted to give some praise to my Titans punter, Brett Kern. I just enjoyed watching him throughout the whole years. And for Overreaction Monday, I want to talk about the Super Bowl, how the Eagles took this man off their team and then the Chiefs got great field position off of a punt. So if that was Brett Kern, I think they could have won

that Super Bowl. Thank you, Brendan, for the call. Shout out to Brett Kern. Absolute dog of a punter. I love this man. He had a poster on the outside of the Titans stadium of him. So anytime you're a punter and on the outside of the Titan Stadium of him. So anytime you're a punter and on the outside of your NFL team stadium, you're on there, that means that the team has a lot of respect for you,

the program appreciates you, your teammates like you because he did everything right, worked his ass off, has one of the most consistent strokes I've ever seen come through the NFL. He was like a jugs machine. I tried to copy some of the shit that he did. I couldn't because I was not as talented technically as he was. He was like a jugs machine. I tried to copy some of the shit that he did. I couldn't because I was not as talented technically as he was. He was an absolute monster, and I love Brett Kern.

Congrats on a hell of a run. Now, to his point, Brendan's point in Ohio there, because I believe Brett is from Ohio. Might be wrong. I don't know. Toledo? I don't know if that's right or not. I apologize, Brett, if I just lied right there. But whenever he got signed to the Eagles, I was very happy for the Eagles because he was available. Colts should have signed him,

I thought. So he goes to the Eagles, doesn't hit as many bombs, kind of hit, miss hit a couple to the left whenever he was with the Eagles. Then they get to the Super Bowl and they had to make a decision. Either the Hurt Punter or Brett Kern, who was brought in for the Hurt Punter. They go with the Hurt Punter instead of Brett Kern. He hits a shank, which ball is supposed to go left, ends up going right, short.

Kadarius Toney takes the thing all the way back to like the six or whatever it was. That was all she wrote basically for that Super Bowl with the Kansas City Chiefs beating the Philadelphia Eagles. I, like Brendan, do believe you put the ball in Brett Kern's hand, his miss will at least be a miss that doesn't fuck you. He was the consummate pro. I was a massive fan.

And I'm not saying that that punter won't get better and potentially get there, but Brett Kern's an absolute dog. I am a massive fan of his, A.J. Hawk. Don't you think, I think punters, you don't, people don't value them enough until they're gone, until you don't have that person anymore. I know even as a player, you see that, like, wow, we really had something special for a long time here.

But it's like the punt is such a weird thing to where, yeah, like once they're gone, then you realize it. But then when you see, wait, we have a guy, like you realize how this dude will win you football games absolutely so the titans i think they got stonehouse yeah and this dude was just kicking the ball further than any human i've ever seen kick a ball before so i don't think they missed brett kern as much but the thing that brett kern can do that everybody else couldn't do and even stonehouse he like he just he shoots that thing right to the sideline just like okay

i'm gonna love i love I love playing with him. That'd be awesome. I'm going to eliminate the returner completely from this thing so you don't have to cover his heart and you can just do your thing to take care of it. But he had a great career. I think he'd be very pumped to find out whenever he got in the NFL he was going to have like an 11-year career or something like that.

This is not to do with Brett Kern, but there is some pretty big... Yeah, massive breaking news. Holy shit. Yeah. occurring but there is some pretty big yeah massive breaking news holy shit yeah taylor swift and matt healy have broken up now obviously taylor swift is in the middle of a multi-billion dollar tour right now that's right where she's selling out stadiums multiple times back-to-back nights not not theaters not arenas stadiums being sold out back-to-back-to-back nights for the tune of 215 000 tickets sold just for metlife stadium concerts in a three-day weekend that's like 110 million dollars in tickets or something if the average of the ticket is 500 which it's actually more than that so just keep ticking on zeros yeah you watch a documentary taylor swift she's a fucking dog writes all her own songs does her own thing i assume that kind of comes and goes with uh

being in a relationship it's probably not easy with the lifestyle the profession and how she goes about it to be but here we have another ex-boyfriend of Taylor Swift, which means we probably got another tour, another album. Banger of an album. Definitely. Right? That's what that means. Oh, yeah. I don't want to just be noob cash,

but I believe Matt Healy, who I saw kissing a security guard at his concert, I believe, just like two days ago, a very public kiss on a man's face, Matt Healy. That's not right. So now Taylor is going to write an album, I assume, about Mr. Healy, and this tour is just going to go on to do $10 billion and just maybe never stop. Is she going to be able to tour forever?

That is the question. And what does Taylor Swift do next, AJ Hawk? What does she do? I don't know. She had a high-profile quarterback go to at least two of her three shows. Whoa! Breaking! Holy shit! What are you saying, AJ? a high-profile quarterback go to at least two of her three shows. Whoa! Whoa! Breaking!

Holy shit! What are you saying, AJ? I'm saying he should throw his name in the hat to let her know he's interested. Bro, he's got too many favorite songs to just list off one or two from Taylor Swift. As he was jogging off the field the other day on Friday at the NLTAs, he said, is there another Taylor Swift concert this weekend at MetLife? I wish.

He just kept it going. He does seem to be a little bit tripping balls. Yeah. What are we doing, AJ? What are you trying to do here, pal? It'd be fun to see if she wrote an album about her. How amazing would that be? Oh, my God.

That song called Darkness to Light? Oh. Dude. Look at us. Are we playing Matchmaker right now yeah the dimension song are you kidding me oh my god gotta get the nine yep oh maybe that's what the album's called actually dimensions could be that's sweet yeah wow good luck to everybody yeah hell yeah good luck bro you can do it hope everyone finds love good. Good luck to everybody. Apple also

made a bunch of announcements about its new virtual reality kit. They are trying to re-imagine the sports world with their virtual reality. Now, this has been something that people have been trying to accomplish for years. Five years ago, I went into

a goat trailer. Do you remember this? Inincinnati with dell i think ibm ibm sorry with ibm and they were testing out virtual reality pretty much uh with the nfl so they had cameras on like the side behind the uh uh behind the teams one on the goal post on the other side and there were a couple commentators. We were just making like a five-minute clip. No, I could never, ever, ever again sit in that GOAT trailer for four hours on a Thursday night football for three minutes worth of content in the end ever again.

Didn't I know exactly what I was signing up for? But it was awesome to kind of get to experience it. So the NFL has been dabbling with virtual reality for a while now. I think they've been trying to figure out how to do it right. What's the right way to go about doing this? Who offers the best services? They're saying, and obviously Apple is kind of compounding this, they're saying that you're going to be able to watch games

as if you're courtside at an NBA game. You're going to be able to look around. You're going to be on the sideline of NFL games, college games obviously getting involved. They're saying this next batch of virtual reality access is going to greatly heighten the viewer experience for sports. Now, granted, you've got to get in there and fucking get in there and do the whole thing, but allegedly you're there.

And that should be pretty sweet to sell, I assume, to a lot of big-time fans. It'll be amazing, and I'm sure this first version will be nothing compared to what we have 5-10 years from now. But man, I guess it's just what if you want to watch that version but you want to watch a Super Bowl party. I want to watch a Super Bowl like this but I'm also with all my buds. You're going to all strap in and all

be on the same wavelength. We're all sitting in the front row right now. Can you do that? Well you could also, I think you could stream it on TV. Because you could plug and I assume Apple will be able to do this. The metal one, you're able to plug in and then you're able to put it in a TV so they can see what you're seeing. So I think one

person in an off room will have to be making the decisions for what you're looking at while everybody else is riding along. I think that's how it would have to go. They're going to have to fix that. If we all want to be virtual reality at the game, but at our own Super Bowl party at our houses, figure it out, smart kids.

That's one thing that they really haven't done yet. I'm surprised that Apple hasn't made their own TV where you could just airplay it to the TV. Interesting. The cost, I believe, for this Apple one, $3,500 is what Bill McCombs just said. You want to go to basketball games and football games?

Cool. You want to go shop in the world? Cool. You want to bop your baloney in here? Yeah. Cool. Do what you got to do. $3,500, welcome to the next world.

That was going to be my question. At these Super Bowl parties when there's like 15 people wearing these goggles, like how do I know that someone's not bopping their baloney next to me? Well, you'll be able to hear if we learn anything from the Zoom time during COVID. You're going to find out. But look, you can even text message in this thing. Look to your left. Send text to wife. Okay.

I'm in virtual reality, babe. And then go back to thrill of the fight. Go over here to watch this NBA game happening tonight. Let me take a trip to Everest real quick. Oh my God, I want to go smoke a Willie. Let me go to a concert. That's what they're trying to do.

Ready, player one, fully activated. And I want to let you know, although it sounds sweet, we will always remain old school around here. You're right. I'm doing right. Ain't that right, AJ? You want to see a game courtside? Pay $25,000 a ticket today.

Yeah. Fucking do it like we usually do. Speaking of Everest, did you see the Sherpa that put that guy in the fucking air mattress and carried him down the fuck six hours what a dog hiked dude on back all the way back to town because he was dying 500 feet away from everest was it six hours or six miles i think it was either way i think it was six hours. Either one. Six hours. So Sherpa is the job, right? Yes, they live there. That's like the, hey.

The guides who take them up. We can run up and down Everest. That's our actual duty, yeah. You guys wear masks and stuff. This is just, we're actually doing jumping jacks at the top. Welcome to our town or whatever. This particular Sherpa, Gelge, I believe uh taking a private client up to mount everest 500 meters from the summit ran over wrapped him in a sleeping mattress gave him oxygen put him on his back hiked six hours down the mountain of safety are you

fucking kidding me dude these humans still exist out here let's remember that our world is filled with superheroes we just don't get a chance to always see them because negativity hogs publicity here's one of them in the middle of the mountain that we would never really learn about six hours on my fucking back though let me go ahead and save this dude's life yeah and uh story forever this is beautiful i'm pumped about it and shout out to pompliano who's reported wrong numbers before putting this story out there and being amazing. You think the private client was like, hey, look, we're about to be there. Can we just come back down in a little bit? I've been wanting to do this for a long time, and I'm about to do it,

and you're telling me we've got to turn around? I'm 500 meters away. 700 yards away. We'll go save that guy over there. Yeah, just let him die. I've got to get up there. I'll catch up with you. He's like, no, you won't.

I'm out of here, bro. Yeah. It was probably Posner, and he's done it before. He said, let's save this guy's life. Oh, Posner needs one of the people to guide him back to the top. Okay, like most things. What? Okay.

Wait, real stretch. Yeah, stretch. How so? How so? How so? He needed that saxophone guy to make, real stretch. Yeah, stretch. How so? How so? How so? He needed that saxophone guy to make, you know, what it was. That saxophone guy has a name. His name is Coach Lee Corso.

Coach Lee Corso was not playing saxophone at the ESPN Super Bowl party. But Posner was there. He gave an interesting performance that evening. Oh, really? By following him on Instagram, he is absolutely jockeling. Dude, he's eating sprouts right now he he put a full sprouts meal together on instagram i'm like actually looks pretty good because that's because thousands and thousands of people were asking hey mr poser how do you how do you do sprouts so that like we can like them so that was the beginning he said a lot of people have been asking me how i eat sprouts so that's why i made the video

thank you for bringing that up though a lot of people have been asking me how I eat sprouts. So that's why I made the video Thank you for bringing that up A lot of people are interested in post and sprouts and just because you think you're cool to me That's poser AJ he's a dog that is he might have been he might be a show in a visa going forward he might be Let me see He's a dog. That is. He might be a Sherpa forever going forward. He might be. He is cool. Let me see him. Man. He's everything, though. He's not just a musician. This guy does it all, right?

He's Wim Hof now, too. He's part of that, yeah. And we apologize to Posner that you performed at a party that we were at, so you entered our world. We didn't seek you out, but now that you're in our world, we do follow along. Just keep living, bro. Keep living. seek you out, but now that you're in our world, we do follow along. Just keep living, bro. Keep living. Love you, Poser.

Hey, when it dies, bury him in Detroit, bro. That's right. That's right. Unless he changes his mind. Him and Big Sean. Put him in a pothole. 291 of them covered up. Gonna need a bigger thing than a pothole. He's properly jocked right now. Let's get out of here we'll be

back tomorrow for a great tuesday we can't thank you guys enough for joining us this is the dumbest job of all time we're very thankful we get to do it this summer is always a blast we'll be talking about things we know nothing about but now we have a chance i believe to bring on experts in fields here we go no matter what we want to talk about so even if it's a two-minute conversation a one minute conversation a 15-minute conversation, a one-minute conversation, a 15-minute conversation with people, I believe we'll be able to maybe have a little bit more educated converse. And also a lot of, that's dumb.

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And, hey, my dumb fucking face right there. Shout out. Nice. We're going to have to take that down at some point. I like that. I mean, what's wrong? No, it's sweet. I'm about sick of looking at me.

Well, if you want, I could, you know, take it out of the box and set it up so that, you know, Tank is about to chokeslam me or something. I've got to listen to me enough. You know what I mean? I don't need to fucking see me all the time. Yeah, this is neat, though. Yeah, it is. That's pretty cool.

This is neat. And now that I know, I'm a thousand percent getting the fucking Hulkster one. Yeah. You're between Tank and the Intimidator, okay? It's pretty cool. That's not bad. Pretty cool gig.

Not bad. So you're telling me I'm a brawler on there, too? You're a brawler. What's Hulkster? What's Hulkster? A technician? I would assume Hulkster is all five. Hulkster, this guy doesn't know the difference between a headlight and a headlamp.

And a few other things. Headlock and a headlamp. What? Yeah. Yeah, I'd say. All right. Let's get out of here. Allegedly.

Allegedly. Allegedly. And some knowledge. AJ, have a good one, brother. You too. Any breaking news here before we get out of here? Not that I know of. It's breaking news.

I didn't know Taylor Swift's boyfriend was a singer. I should have known that. Well, was he? Is that what he was doing when I saw him? He was wearing an inner ear mic or whatever. Yeah, he was. She wasn't with that guy that long. It was the boyfriend before that she was with for like five years.

That one was a big deal to Swift. Who was that? Gyllenhaal? He was an actor from Europe, I believe. Gyllenhaal. Might have been Gyllenhaal. Actor from an actor from Europe, I believe. Gyllenhaal. Might have been Gyllenhaal. Actor from Europe. Yes.

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