The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 924 - Stephen A. Smith, Ian Rapoport, Sal Capaccio, Richard Jefferson, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the Denver Nuggets winning their first NBA Title, the Joker being awarded Finals MVP and seemingly not caring about anything othe...r than going home, the breaking news that there might be a little drama in Buffalo as Stefon Diggs did not report to mandatory minicamp after being in the building, D Hop visiting the Patriots this week, and everything else happening around the NFL and the world of sports. Joining the progrum fresh off a grueling few months of covering the NBA Finals, the host of First Take, legend, Stephen A. Smith joins the show to chat about the Nuggets, the Finals, the NBA moving forward, and more (6:51-25:47). Next, NFL Senior Insider, Ian Rapoport joins the show to chat about the Stefon Diggs situation, what could be the source of the problem, where D Hop might wind up, and all the other news we need to be aware of (1:08:00-1:30:13). Next, Buffalo Bills Insider Sal Capaccio joins the show to give a little more context to what’s going on with Stefon Diggs, and Sean McDermott’s comments at his press conference this morning (1:52:52-1:58:32). Later, NBA Champion, 17 year veteran, and co-host of NBA Today, Richard Jefferson joins the show to wrap up the NBA Finals, give his thoughts about Jokic, the luxury tax and how that’s going to impact teams going forward, if he expects stars to move around this offseason, and his thoughts on Ja Morant (2:05:24-2:22:18). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdom, on this holy shit, the Denver Nuggets have won a world title Tuesday, June 13, 2023. This program starts now. Sports! Are happening. Congratulations to the Denver Nuggets being a franchise that has won a world title for the first time just last night. And obviously Jamal Murray's having the time of his life. Who would have thought he would have been able to get back to this stage of basketball after getting injured and being doubted? He has become an absolute dog for the Denver Nuggets, especially in this playoff run.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Then you think about Aaron Gordon. That guy was kind of tossed to the side. How you doing? You know what he's doing? He's outside shirtless in his uniform celebrating with the Denver Nuggets. Then you think about Bruce Brown. That guy had a baby with Lorne Rhodes. Yeah, that's right. That's what he had, a baby with Lorne Rhodes. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:00:46 That's what he had, a baby with Lorne Rhodes. You know what else he did? Massive dunk last night. Two huge free throws late in the fourth quarter. Turned his entire life around in basketball legacy around. Coach Malone, obviously in a basketball family, he gets a title. Go ahead and hang that on the mantle.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Huge. The Denver Nuggets fans get to enjoy it all. Everybody's having a blast. There was people in the streets at all hours of the night last night now something terrible and devastating did happen uh hours and hours and hours later another piece of denver that's a shame t's and p's to everybody there were obviously victims to the shooting that took place during the celebration that is a damn shame and a damper about what's taking place because if you saw the entire city of denver seemed to be celebrating and enjoying the hell of the nuggets bringing the larry o'brien trophy to denver for the first time in the history of the existence of the nuggets program and he's looking all the way back nuggets been around a long time yeah you've seen a lot of people in those very sweet jerseys
Starting point is 00:01:38 representing mile high city this is the first time they've been champions these fans have been waiting to light off fireworks in the middle of a four-way intersection and have a blast and climb telephone poles and everything like that. The place was a zoo! Sweet. Nobody told Joker? No. That's right. Nope. Joker had no idea he fucking won a title. No clue. You know, and they say people grieve differently.
Starting point is 00:01:58 You know, you watch Dateline and all these different things and they say, well, the way this person was acting after this person passed away, there's no way that is. Like, well, you don't know how people handle grief and everything like that. Some things are obvious. Also, I guess you don't know how people are going to handle the highest of highs. It's true. Joker didn't even fucking know. Joker was told that the parade was on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:02:14 You need to stick around a couple days. Alright? Please. We've got a whole celebration. The next couple days is going to be good. And his answer was actually this when he found out that a celebration parade to celebrate him pretty much to celebrate him a city would like to say thank you for doing something that's never happened here before this is what he said when is parade when is parade thursday no
Starting point is 00:02:39 i need to go home. Okay. You go home Friday, the result. Yeah, I'm learning that now. I mean, me and Horse FaceTime yesterday. Crush. Say, I win this for you. I see you Wednesday. Now, are you telling Horse?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Do I? There's videos of him in the locker room, okay? Champagne, everybody's wearing snowboard goggles these days Just in preparation of getting burnt from beer What? Champagne What? Whiskey What?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Maybe who knows what else is happening in those locker rooms Whenever you're celebrating something you've worked your entire life for But the champagne bottle spray Pretty standard operating procedure for celebration When? Look at the Joker, give the champagne bottle spray, pretty standard operating procedure for celebration when look at the Joker, give it a go. Well, fuck. I did it. It fucking sucked.
Starting point is 00:03:33 These glasses too small for head. They over ears. Get me out of here. This dude. The only show of actual joy that we got from old Joker was when he tackled Jamal Murray into the pool now I don't know who got this on camera
Starting point is 00:03:50 there was a camera in there so this was probably pretty difficult for Joker to want to do but hey boom remember all those hours we spent in here rehabbing getting better working let's go ahead and celebrate his two teammates who have become one of the best pairings in the NBA obviously the championship pairing in the NBA. Obviously, the
Starting point is 00:04:06 championship pairing in the NBA. A lot of help from all the other pieces, though. Old Cuz out of Kansas. Christian Brown. He won three high school titles, obviously a natty at Kansas, and now he's an NBA champion in his rookie year. He was taking the ball to the rack, too. He was doing a lot of things. I enjoyed watching
Starting point is 00:04:22 this Nuggets team, and I hope there's a chance. And maybe this is just how Joker is happy. Maybe this is just his happiness. But Joker, you gotta take this in. This is what you do all the fucking miserable shit for. Now, I don't think Joker sees any of it as miserable. Remember, he does ride four feet away from a
Starting point is 00:04:37 horse's ass around town. So I don't think he thinks anything is miserable involving a sport or a game. He's like comparing it to people, what else they're doing or could be doing. This is easy. This is game. This is nothing. But I hope he does settle in with his brothers who are enjoying the hell out of it
Starting point is 00:04:52 and take it all in that he has become one of the greatest basketball players of all time. All his hard work is worth it. And I think we all appreciate how humble he is and all that. But at some point, Joker, you need to drink it down. Big time. You need to take it in because why else are you lifting all them weights? Why else are you lumbering up and down basketball courts 82 nights a year in different cities at 6'11", 260 pounds, lumbering up?
Starting point is 00:05:19 You need to enjoy the moment whenever you get to the mountaintop, and I assume this is just how he does it. But optically, it was hilarious. I was proud of him, happy for him, and congrats to the Nugs. Way to go, Nuggets. The Talks at Table is here at Boss Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. The Cowboys turn digs this year. And joining us, obviously, a man who's very pumped about this
Starting point is 00:05:38 because the pronouns he was using for the Denver Nuggets were we, an hour after his Los Angeles Lakers got swept by this Denver Nuggets team, which we will look back on at some point in the offseason about what they were able to accomplish this entire playoff run and who they did it to and how they went about doing their business. Adam Pac-Man Jones is here. Pac obviously pumped up about it.
Starting point is 00:05:57 In your eyes, there's a chance both South Florida teams that were having a chance to do something that never happened before. If South Florida was able to win both the NBA and the NHL finals here, that would have been the first time a city has ever accomplished it. You said immediately upon hearing that, because you are a bit of a hater, you said immediately, they're not going to win a single game. They each won one game thus far. That is all the Heat were able to get out of the Nuggets series.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Tonight, the Vegas Golden Knights can end the Florida Panthers 4-1 as well. You see that on the horizon with your fucking sweater on. It looked good, pal. Oh, yes, I do. I think they won one game. I was wrong about one game. Every now and then, the sun shines on the dog ass. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:33 But the Vegas night, they're going to take this home tonight. We're back home. It's going to be a good night. I saw this dog doing a handstand on the internet. Really? The sun shines on said dog's ass a lot a lot sure but that's an anomaly just like what he's saying is the couple wins that they got in both series joining us now is a guy that he's been uh on television i think for i don't know like 48
Starting point is 00:06:57 straight hours multiple times over the last few weeks covering the nba finals in the nba playoffs while also being the host of First Take and the Stephen A. Smith Show, which is taking over YouTube. Incredibly proud, pumped to have this man on the program. Ladies and gentlemen, Stephen A. Smith. How are you, man? What's up? You got my man Pac-Man Jones up in there, man. What's up, big boy? How you doing, man? You two know each other? You two know each other? Yes, we do. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, you've been covering sports a long time. I assume you and Pac-Man may have crossed paths.
Starting point is 00:07:28 How long you been in the business, Stephen A.? I've been in the business since 1993. Hell, yeah. You've been doing it. You know, and I've interviewed Pac-Man on a few occasions. How'd they go? Because he just released a local news video from earlier that he did where he was calling Terrell Pryor garbage,
Starting point is 00:07:47 trash, and then he actually grabbed a garbage can and said, Terrell, on the local news. So how are the interviews with Pac pretty good? No, no, he's straight up. I mean, to me as far as I'm concerned, as long as you're real and not shy about saying what you feel, I'm good with you.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And that was always him. So he and I have always been cool. We're going to go pack. All right, let's go. Let's dive into some basketball because we know you've worked. Are you dead, huh? You tired? You got to be. Dude, you got to be dead. I'm tired as hell, Pat. I'm only here because of you, my brother.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I'm on a flight back to New York. All right, well, let's get it done. Let's get it knocked out. We appreciate you taking time here to chit-chat. No doubt. And we obviously just cracked some jokes and watched Joker celebrate that thing in a way that only Joker could celebrate it. Maybe the most humble athlete, superstar
Starting point is 00:08:34 in the history of any sport. Literally didn't want to do the parade. Like, ah, gosh. Gotta go home. Horses. Who tells horse I'm not coming home? But whenever you start thinking about everything he accomplished,
Starting point is 00:08:46 his playoff run, we're in a conversation talking about one of the greatest basketball players to ever live. He doesn't know that, though? You think that's what it is? I don't think he cares. I think he cares about the results, get the job done, and then go out about his merry way. I think that's exactly how he lives his life. I mean, you know, when you especially,
Starting point is 00:09:00 and it's one of the things that's not talked about enough, especially when you're somebody that's not from the United States of America. In his case, you're from Serbia. When you experience a lot of the things that a lot of folks from foreign countries experience, what happens is that even though competition is paramount and you place a significant load on achieving success and what have you in the same breath, you know what life and death is truly all about. It's literal to you. And he has that kind of perspective. Giannis has that kind of perspective.
Starting point is 00:09:33 A lot of these guys, Luka Doncic and others, have that kind of perspective. So because of that, you know, they'll show up and they'll perform. They don't fear anybody. They do their job. But in the same breath, they understand that it's just a game And at the end of the day Come hell or high water I'm going to go home and live my life
Starting point is 00:09:48 And that's what Jokic did He steps on the court He busts your ass And then after he does that He goes home And goes on his merry way The champagne bottle Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:58 It's so good Just so awesome Just what is this? You know what else? It's a movie I brought this up on first take today and i'll bring it up to you right now you know when i when i think about yokich and you saw his brother celebrating with him everybody forgets something that happened a couple of years ago remember last
Starting point is 00:10:15 year the year before you know marquise morris when yokich was dribbling up the court he sort of low-balled him a little bit and hit him hit him in the ribs but then he turned his back and walked away like it was no big deal and Jokic clobbered him in the back put him down and when he put him down he stayed down for a while he was pretty hurt he was never the same the rest of that season and if you saw in the aftermath of all that the Miami Heat wanted to get at Jokic really really bad Jimmy Butler and all of those brothers Jokic's brothers his two brothers took out a Twitter account they've never used it before or since they took it out that one day when Marcus Morris Marquis brother was talking about oh so we gonna hit people in the back now all right
Starting point is 00:10:59 I see how this goes and the brothers opened a twitter account to say excuse me your brother started it our brother finished it we strongly suggest that you let this go you know i'm saying and it was like all of a sudden you start hearing about the serbian mafia and all of this other stuff and the kind of connections that these guys have and you realize they are no joke they know they are no joke and they sent the message you could compete against our brother but don't think you're gonna do something to him and there's not gonna be consequences a lot of people talk a lot of things about this you know oh nice guy doesn't say much nicole yokich just goes out there and balls he's not scared he can ball he gets on the court he busts your ass but in the same breath
Starting point is 00:11:45 you know you understand you don't need to mess with him because there are other people that are in his family that will see to it that it is something that is against your best interest not anybody tells that story but i told that story because it's true i remember whenever that all took place because i think that's when we learned about his brothers. They're all the same size and they're all tatted up. Huge. And they went to the next Miami game, I think. That was even a part of it. They said, we will be there.
Starting point is 00:12:14 They said, we will be there. And they showed up at the game by themselves. Yes. And dared anybody to mess with them. And nobody, nobody messed with them. Yeah. Nobody. Yeah, I mean, anybody that still takes horse
Starting point is 00:12:31 as their mode of transportation, you got to think there's some sort of mental grit in there. Oh, yeah. No, you know, we'll take our time. We'll do this the old-fashioned way. And also, another thing that has come out is, obviously, that Joker got drafted during a Taco Bell commercial. And if you watch that Taco Bell commercial, he was actually drafted as a four, right?
Starting point is 00:12:48 And then Shaq puts out an Instagram post last night that was pretty much like, hey, welcome. I forget the exact caption. Can you take the ticker off there? Welcome to the big man alliance or whatever to Joker, right? And then he puts up all these stats of all the great centers. So obviously he's being considered a center now. He's drafted during a Taco Bell commercial as a four. Is this kind of, when you're getting this conversation,
Starting point is 00:13:12 obviously it's fucking great. But he just has to play like 10 more years, you think, to get into the full conversation of greatest center of all time? Or what do you think Joker's going to have to do? I don't think so. I don't think it's going to take that much. I think when you consider him now, I I mean I'm just looking at his numbers he averaged 30 14 and 7 on 58 percent shooting from the field 42 percent from three in the NBA finals in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:13:35 the number was at 34 and 13 and 9 he averaged a triple double in one of the series he swept the Lakers and Anthony Davis. He beat DeAndre Aydin, Kevin Durant, and Devin Booker. He took out Rudy Gobert and Carl Anthony Towns. And obviously, he did what he did to Miami. Bam Adebayo is a pretty damn good player. He's an all-star caliber player. A bit undersized as a big man, but a legitimate 6'9", potentially 6'10". And he looked like a small man compared to Jokic. Jokic is not a small dude. He's a big dude that plays big, but he's got a beautiful touch around the basket. He's got a beautiful touch away from the basket. He's an exceptional passer. His basketball IQ is off the
Starting point is 00:14:17 charts. And this is a guy that spent the better part of his first three years in the NBA coming off the bench. He wasn't even a starter. so you see the level of elevation that's taking place he committed himself to his craft to being the best that he can possibly be and right now in a league where there's Steph Curry and there's LeBron James and there's Kevin Durant and others we're literally sitting here and calling a big man the best in the world he's good at everything everything that's basketball it seems like he is just good at. And it's hard to bet on his, like, scoring because he'll be in a prime position to shoot,
Starting point is 00:14:50 and he's still looking to pass, and then he'll still get, like, 30-some points. It's like this guy, he's an Ironman, it feels like. Incredible player. Shout-out to Joker. Hope you enjoy something out there, Joker. Yeah, Joker.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Let's talk about his surrounding cast now, all right? And I kind of rattled through it there to kind of start this show here. Bruce Bryan had a baby along the roads, right? That was the big news. He had a baby along the roads. That was kind of the big news during his playoff series. And then you watch him play. He seems to be faster than everybody else on the court.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Explosive. Two massive free throws late. Aaron Gordon, this guy with the tag team of Joker and him underneath, he's able to get some looks. He takes advantage of it seemingly for the Nuggets in incredible fashion. Jamal Murray, whenever you need a shot, he seems to be clutch. He's the dog. That team that they built
Starting point is 00:15:34 around, and who's the little white? Brown. Three high school state titles, a national championship at Kansas, and now an NBA title. That motherfucker just wins. That team they have, how long are they together for? It feels like that is a much
Starting point is 00:15:49 bigger part of the conversation now than it maybe has been for the NBA because it's a superstar-driven league. That team's deep, Stephen A. What's going to make it interesting is this. You've got to pay attention, and I know you do, to some of the changes that have been taking place with the new collective bargaining agreement. They're going to make it much more difficult for like three-headed
Starting point is 00:16:07 monsters superstars to join forces and obviously denver's going to be the model model because they're not arraigning defending nba champions and they built through the draft drafting jamal murray drafting michael porter jr drafting nicole yokich and what have you and so they're going to serve as a model for a lot of teams here's where it gets tricky though stan cronky is the owner owner for cronky sports and entertainment he owns the colorado rockies and the national hockey league he owns the los angeles rams and he owns the denver nuggets all of whom have won championships in the last two years yeah a lot of money a lot of money and he doesn't serve five yep question is he going to keep them together he's known they use the word fiscally responsible in other words he's kind of cheap and so as a result of that because that's the situation there are questions
Starting point is 00:16:57 as to whether or not he's going to keep these guys together but if he chooses to do so i don't think there's any reason to believe that they won't believe they won't win at least another title with jamal murray and yoki's leading the way with those guys playing the role that they play mike malone being an exceptional coach i think it's entirely plausible that they win another championship pac-man has a question for you steven since they got the since they got the championship big bro where do we rank the duos with Joker and Murray as far as the top in the league right now? I think right now, number one. I think right now, number one.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Here's the reason why. A lot of times we look at time. Let's say, for example, Jason Tatum with Jalen Brown, right? Even though, you know, they messed up in game seven. I personally attribute most of that to Jason Tatum getting hurt on the very first offensive play of the game. He was never the same. He was compromised. But Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, here's their problem. They are two exceptional individual talents. They're not known for playing together. They're not known for feeding off of one another, picking rolls, picking pops, things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:18:00 One is always on the opposite side of the court than the other. To a lesser degree, we saw that with Kevin Durant and Devin Booker, not necessarily feeding off of one another. LeBron James and Anthony Davis do feed off of one another, but that's when Anthony Davis is available because he's a human roller coaster. One game he's in, one game he's out. One game he's ready, one game he's not. So the level of consistency is not there. When you look at Jamal Murray and Jokic, they play together. They feed directly off of one another. Mike Malone puts them in situations where picking
Starting point is 00:18:29 rolls, picking pops, and all of this other stuff that goes on, they're literally assisting the other scoring all the time. They're feeding directly off of one another. That's why they're the dynamic duo. You're not just looking at their talent. You're looking at the cohesiveness with which they play together. They play together. Most dual stars or most duos who are stars in this league don't play together.
Starting point is 00:18:54 They're on opposite ends of the court with one another. These two are not that. That's why they're number one right now. In the biggest moments, they showed up. There's been some duos that have had an opportunity and then all kind of collapsed in the biggest moments. It feels like during the playoffs there, Jamal Murray and Joker
Starting point is 00:19:09 we didn't follow the season as closely as we should have. We blame you for that. We do blame you. I want to let you know that you've done a lot of great things for sports media. You need to know that. There's a couple things. You know, you're so damn good at what you do that now everybody's trying to be you. Not everybody, but a lot of people are trying be you and they are not that sucks not your fault
Starting point is 00:19:27 though right not your fault we have to deal with it but not your fault okay that is that is something like that you're so i appreciate you not being dan levitard and trying to blame me for that thank you very much i mean it's not like it's not your fault though no no like i guess could blame you you know but it's in your our eyes, not your fault. We do have to deal with it, though, as a society. So you can see how that kind of, you know, that whole thing. But not knowing this Nuggets team, I think it was a nice treat during the playoffs. I think it was a nice treat during the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Were they like this all year? They weren't healthy, I heard. They were. Okay. They were like this all year. They were like this all year. They the number one seed uh throughout the season they had tailed off in the latter part of the year they had fallen off you know for like a two three week stretch where they were really really struggling that mike malone was calling out their effort like he did
Starting point is 00:20:17 um in the after game two of these nba finals like he did against phoenix where they had fell the phoenix and he saw he accused them of leaving their defense in the desert for games three and four when Devin Booker was shooting 80% from the field and 60% from three-point range. But when they tailed off, one of the things we were waiting to see was that three years ago or so when they were in the bubble in the conference finals, Jamal Murray was healthy. Over the last two years, he hadn't been, which is why they didn't go deep into the playoffs. Now that he was back, you were wondering whether or not that jamal murray was going to return the form because he's still in a lot of our eyes hadn't returned to form as of yet and that was where their hesitancy kicked in got it okay well we need to see more of them next year okay you
Starting point is 00:20:59 make that decision we know it we need some more. Well, he's two-time MVP. That's right. I mean, he's... What if he just goes back, gets on that horse and goes, this is right? And then just... Literally rides that thing right out of the side. Last question. No, no, I agree. Yeah, he won't quit. Yeah. He might play forever,
Starting point is 00:21:19 actually. He's got 50 minutes in the next four years. He's so fast. He's so big. Self-touch. He should be lumbering around. He should be sore at some point. And he's not. He's got 50 million a year for the next four years. He's so fast. He's so big. Self-touch. He should be lumbering around. He should be sore at some point. And he's not. He's just moving. Connor has the last question for you here, Stephen A.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Yeah, Stephen A. Obviously, you know, what Jimmy Butler did with the Heat was unbelievable. Eight seed, two playing games, made it all the way to the finals. It was very cool to watch, even as a Celtics fan. What do they do now, though, with the Heat? Are they going to get Damian Lillard because he said he wants to go down there with this guy Bam, or what do you think they do? They got to try.
Starting point is 00:21:49 They got to try because Jimmy Butler is a star in this league. Make no mistake about that. He's a closer. You saw what he did last night despite the fact that he was nonexistent for the first 43 minutes of the game offensively. Hey, he's getting killed for that. He's getting killed for that right now. Well, he shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:22:04 He shouldn't. He's always giving you what he's got defensively, and he showed up as the game Wayne that scored eight straight points, gave them the lead. Here's what I would tell y'all, and this is just my thing about a superstar. First of all, when you look at a lot of these guys, when you're the marquee, it can't just be the clothes. You got to show up and you've got to carry that load. Jimmy Butler is not a volume shooter. He's not somebody that's willing to take the bull by the horn and say, I'm that dude. Give me the rock and I'll take you there unless it's the last couple of minutes of the game. You've got to be of the mindset when you think about LeBron and you think about Kobe, God rest his soul. You think about MJ. You even think about Kevin Durant and Devin
Starting point is 00:22:44 Booker, people like that, Steph Curry, others. You got to take the bull by the horn on a night in, night out basis. You drop in 25, 26, 27. And oh, by the way, you're not relying on the referees to get you to the free throw line an exorbitant number of times in order to pull that off. That's been Jimmy. It's not to say that he's not a star. It's not to say that he's not something, somebody pivotal that you should not have, but him as your number one option, considering the talent you're going to have to go against. I think it's been proven against LeBron finals, loss against Jokic finals loss. I think it's been proven that you need somebody else as your number one offensive option to compliment Jimmy. If you do that miami will be right back where
Starting point is 00:23:27 they were last night in a position to possibly win a championship if they don't i think you'll see yannis i think you'll see uh boston and also i also think that at some point in time you'll see joe ellen bead knocking on the door because i think he wants it bad enough somebody out of the eastern conference it won't be miami unless they get jimmy butler, somebody out of the Eastern Conference. It won't be Miami unless they get Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo help as in a number one offensive option because neither one of them are that. Hey, there might be somebody out of New Orleans on the move. There's a new dad, you know, allegedly, potentially. You know, there might be a new dad or coming father that might be on the move.
Starting point is 00:24:00 He's next. Can't pick him. Can't pick him. He misses too many games. He misses too many games. He misses too many games. About to have a kid. You know what I mean? A lot of other stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Might have some chips on his shoulder. A lot of things are being said right now. You got to play, bro. You got to play first. Yeah. You got to play. I want to hear that shit. You got to play first.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I love Zion. I love Zion, but you got to play. He got a lot of activity going on in his life. Props to him. But playing basketball games ain't one of them. You got to play. He got a lot of activity going on in his life. Props to him. But playing basketball games ain't one of them. You got to get on the court. Hey, Zion, this too shall pass, Bob. Everything's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Everything's going to be okay. Everything's going to be all right as long as he plays. Yeah, he plays good. Plays good. He can't come back. He'll play good. He's on the court. He's a 60% shooter.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Always. Averages 26 a game. He'll be fine. Yeah, he's doing this one too. He just got to show up. Always. Averages 26 a game. He'll be fine. Yeah, he's doing this one too. He just got to show up. 280. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:48 By the way, 280, 180 dunks in the layup line or while you're practicing, ain't playing. Come on. It's close, though. It's close. At least it's with a basketball in his hand. You know, we're hearing about a lot of other players. They ain't paid a man nearly $200 million to show up in warm-ups.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I agree. Let's see him in a game. Let's show up. Let's go home and let's go to basketball. And let's go home and let's go to basketball. Just those two. And it'll all be there later. And by the way, if he plays basketball, all of that other stuff he's got
Starting point is 00:25:21 going on will be there anyway. Even better. Even better. Even better. Even better. Even better. Even better. Hey, just like our show is when you stop by. Listen, you got to be dead.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Go take a nap or 10. Safe travels back to New York. We appreciate the hell out of you. Great job on the coverage, brother. Thanks a lot, my brother. I appreciate you. Appreciate y'all. Y'all take it easy.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I love you, bro. Catch you later. Yes, sir. Love you, too. Ladies and gentlemen, Stephen A. Schmidt. Yeah, Stephen A. Schmidt. He's been working. Yeah, grinding. Thisman, I love you, bro. Catch you later. Yes, sir. Love you, too. Ladies and gentlemen, Stephen A. Schmidt. Yeah, Stephen A. He's been working. Yeah, grinding.
Starting point is 00:25:48 This morning, he was on first take. They got him on his own little TV, you know? And there'll be a take being given by somebody, and boy, boy.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah. And I think sometimes he just interrupts just because, hey, I'm going to have to. Only way to keep him awake is to talk. He was in Denver last night.
Starting point is 00:26:06 We've seen the scenes from Denver last night. He was there. And then obviously he's right back on the first take this next day. Two hours sitting in a room all by himself. In Denver, do your thing. I appreciate him stopping by. Great day to have NBA conversation. Nobody better, I guess, to stop by than Stephen A. Smith.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Very thankful for that. You asked it. So Jokic just signed a five-year max. Michael Porter Jr. got his five-year max. Aaron Gordon's locked up for four years. Jamal Murray's there for two more years before he gets paid again. Christian Braun's a rookie. Brown's a rookie. They're going to be there.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, they're going to be there. Yeah, and Jokic's next deal. I mean, by the time he gets there and he'll be all NBA still, that'll be like a $400, $500 million. Yeah, and he's going to say I don't. You talk500 million. Yeah, and he's going to say, I don't... You talk to someone. Yeah, but... I think you pay me rock. I have you. Yeah, they might
Starting point is 00:26:52 offer him. I need a stall outside horse. Yeah, 200 horses. And then agent's like, Joker, we need $2 billion. Yeah. Okay. You see what this guy does. You see the stats guy do it. And then they're like, Joker, you want $2 billion? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I guess. Good. I also think- They just need to give him one of those planes where he can get to Serbia in three hours every night after the game. Yeah. What was that called? They were creating that.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Concord. No, that one blew up, right? It did, yes. Concord blew up. It was supposed to get New York, London, three hours. Yes. That was the- It was supposed to bring Europe-
Starting point is 00:27:21 Super Sonic Jet. It was supposed to bring Europe and America together. Mm-hmm. And I think the NFL was actually basing NFL Europe teams on the success of this plane because Jim Irsay mentioned it in his answer about expansion of the NFL. He said, remember, the Concorde was supposed to connect London and New York, and then it didn't or whatever. And then he said there's supposed to be a new one happening.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So that was actually a part of a lot of businesses' plans, I would assume. If there was a chance to have that, which there should be, right? All these billionaires are getting to fucking space. Can we not get some planes to fly a little quicker? What are we doing? We talked about it after he said that.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It's not the Concorde, but it's like the same engineering type thing. And they said that by 2030, the plans are that there will be some sort of supersonic jet that you can fly commercially. American Airlines has put out a picture of what one could potentially look like. So maybe this will be what they – go ahead and scroll down there. American places deposit on 20 Overture aircraft.
Starting point is 00:28:17 American Airlines, the world's largest airline, poised to have the world's largest supersonic fleet. So this is probably – if American Airlines is doing it and they have the world's largest, that means somebody else has something. They're getting 20. There must be somebody that has 10 or 15. That's good news. The world should be smaller. You're right. Maybe that'll help Joker. Be like,
Starting point is 00:28:33 I go Serbia Tuesdays, come back Thursday. We play a little basketball. Or why doesn't just someone show them, hey, in Colorado, you could buy a massive, massive ranch out somewhere and have 50 horses. A whole family. Yeah, a whole family can live there.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Pick up the whole neighborhood. It kind of looks like the Serbian countryside a little bit maybe. There are places out there you could find. Even a corner store that you go to. Exactly. Just pick it up like Rick Ross did with his house. Boom. And just move it over.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Right. Make his own town. Oh, no. We were just talking earlier about how we love the United States. Some people are just stuck in what they like. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:12 Just pick it all up. Just move it. Make it Jokicville. Just pick up part of Serbia and just move it. Just move it. Just right here. That's like us moving this and going to Serbia. Yeah, if we wanted to go to Serbia. If we were were able to pick up if i was able to get this my house that's about all the places you always go to all that little that smoothie place i eat at right yeah doordash make sure they have that if somebody's able to pick this they can put it fucking anywhere they
Starting point is 00:29:41 want exactly put anywhere they wanted and'm going to have my same life. That's what we're saying for Joker. Bingo. Let's give him the same life. Exactly. Get him to get little dirt trails that you want to put on the back of the horse. Yeah. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:29:52 What Pac and I were talking about is, and you're right, no places like home, I guess. Or a rage ring. It was at the end of Ted Lawson. Excuse me. Yeah. How about emotional? That was pretty emotional. It was. Yeah, it was a good finale.
Starting point is 00:30:08 When they put something back together, I had a hard time. Yeah, you're right. That was a cool moment. They're all in there. The guy pulled out of his shingle. You know how wet that thing had to be? How long was that in his goddamn shingle? A whole season.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Arm sleeve. Had to be so wet in season. A whole season. Arm sleeve. Had to be so wet in there. Thank you for all the sweat. Anytime you go to Europe, though, and maybe I just haven't done it right. I've done it a few times. Or any other country, really. I'm excited to get back to America. Love your country.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. Love your country. Very excited to get back to the one that I live in. Just because the easiest things of a plug-in is just completely different. How you go about operating life, completely different. Want to get back to the one that I live in. Just because the easiest things of a plug-in is just completely different. How you go about operating life, completely different. When you get back home, that's what you're talking about. I respect that from Joker. I respect how humble he is, how much he enjoys still going back to his beginnings
Starting point is 00:30:56 and everything like that and staying grounded. But God damn, we hope you had fun at some point. All right, let's move on. Stanley Cup final tonight could be over. No. Could be. Could be over tonight over. No. Could be. Could be over tonight. Could be.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Could be. Florida Panthers could lose to the Vegas Golden Knights in Las Vegas, and that would mean that the Vegas Golden Knights are Lordo Stanley Cup champions one day after the Denver Nuggets became Larry O'Brien Trophy Award winners. So both of the finals could end within an evening, and both South Florida teams could lose 4-1 in the series, or Kachuk could say nay, like the horses
Starting point is 00:31:29 that Joker rides in on, and extends this thing one game, and maybe two games, and gets this thing to a game seven. Crazier things have happened, could happen, but all eyes are set on Las Vegas winning their first Stanley Cup. That's right. Wow. Let's have a night tonight, huh, Ty? Let's have a fucking night.
Starting point is 00:31:45 You mentioned it. Although, Chuck is a little banged up. They're saying his status for tonight is kind of up in flux, which makes no sense. It's a potential elimination game. There's no way he's not playing. But I just read an article on ESPN this morning about, you know, Vegas has a slogan like, you know, you got to play hurt to win.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Kind of everything coming back to Stoner. This guy, just what he does in the locker room, what he does on the ice. Not only is it the toughest barn in the NHL, but if you've watched this series, there is no question that Vegas has been the better team. More physical, more skilled, bigger, faster, stronger. They want it more. I have a tough time believing they're not going to win on home ice tonight. But, yeah, you mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Crazier things have happened. But I think you're right. I think tonight is the night that the Vegas Golden Knights hoist Lord Stanley's Cup. Nick, we got a little fight out of the Panthers tonight in Sin City or what? They're definitely going to put up a fight, Pat. But I don't know how much fight they have left to get up. Ty mentioned Kachuk's banged up. It's not just Kachuk.
Starting point is 00:32:43 There's a lot of guys on that team. But I think Barkov's playing through something. Barkov? Alexander? Yeah, Sasha Barkov. Sasha? Big Bob. Big Bob in that has battled his ass off this entire playoff to kind of will him along and Kachuk have been the key catalyst to
Starting point is 00:32:57 will this team to the finals from an eighth seed. And he's looked pretty pedestrian in these finals so far. So maybe the magic has run out a little bit. Maybe the steam has run out a little bit. Hey, South Florida, good run. Good run, South Florida. Pac-Man, how are you celebrating tonight?
Starting point is 00:33:11 I know last night you put Junie on your shoulders and you sent a video to Darius Butler telling him that their bum-ass teams are about done. And he responded with saying, put the kid down. What are you planning on doing this evening? I think I'm going to call time. We're going to have us a nice shot around about 10, 30, 11 o'clock. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like that. Why don't you guys do it live on Instagram? Yes. Here we go. And on Twitter Spaces. I like that. That's a good idea. It's over with tonight.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Hell yeah. I hope not. Yeah, we hope not either. Let's go ahead and extend that thing. Even though we are pulling for the Golden Knights and we love the operation, we'd like more hockey. You know, we all would. Juan's starting to lift the cup.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah, because as soon as we lose hockey, this is what we've got to talk about. Stephon Diggs is not at mandatory minicamp for the Buffalo Bills. What? Sean McDermott has said he is very concerned about the absence of Stephon Diggs at the mandatory minicamp. Direct quote from McDermott. Coach, no nonsense, no bullshit. Great personality, coach, saying we are very concerned
Starting point is 00:34:08 that Stephon Diggs isn't here. Normally a coach will kind of give you a little bit of a runaround. We're in contact with Stephon. There's some things kind of on a holdup or whatever. And obviously all OTAs are not mandatory. Mandatory minicamp is the one when these stories start getting blown up. Stephon Diggs not being there with everything that happened last year at the end of the year and in the middle of the year
Starting point is 00:34:25 with his relationship with the Buffalo Beals seemingly and even maybe Josh Allen seemingly, who's the quarterback. And it's all kind of reminiscent to what kind of took place in Minnesota at the end of his run there. Not that it's the same. I know there's two different situations. But Stephon Diggs has been a massive question mark on how he's going to buy into the Buffalo Beals for the last few months.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Now he's not a mandatory minicamp. And just the other day, he posted on Instagram. Ooh, uh-oh. He said he's finding ways to articulate the feelings he's going through. And obviously, he's straight-faced, stone-cold, killer pose with sweet, dun-dun-dun-dun-dun, Canadian tuxedo. He is a model, been to Fashion Week, into fashion. I appreciate that this is his art of choice.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I think he had 10 different photos. Let's look at a couple of them and try to articulate the feelings he might be going. What if this is, I'm half in, half out right now. With the Buffalo Beals. It could be. What if he's like, my arms aren't out of the sleeve because I still like the jacket. But we need to figure some shit out before I get that poo back up over the top of the shoulders. Is that the feeling he's trying to articulate with this
Starting point is 00:35:27 particular person? Or, K, he's got a big old Jesus on his chain. Is the jacket the cave? Is he coming out of the cave? Is he reborn like Jesus? Oh, he's letting Jesus breathe. Move the rock. Put him out of there. Could be the feelings he's articulating. Here's another photo that he had in there where
Starting point is 00:35:43 he's wearing what seems to be either a cricket shin guard, deck hockey shin guard, whatever the case is, he's saying, I'm taking it on the shins. I keep taking it on the shins forever. I would like to have this leg. You see this one? I would like to be able to live like this, but instead I've got to live like this
Starting point is 00:35:56 because I'm taking it on the shins every single day for no reason. I'm working my ass off. Is that what he's articulating on this one? That's pretty good. That's not initially what I thought of. I thought maybe he was thinking more like, hey, I may look like a football player. You may think I'm a football player. But deep inside, I wish I was a catcher from the 1940s in the MLB.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I'm in the wrong space and time right now. You think he's saying, man, Torrey Minicamp, it's baseball season. It's ridiculous. Is that what he's talking about? He's old school. America's pastime. Now, some of the photos he had, he had like some 1920 football pads on as well. Well, I think he was trying to articulate, I'm an old school guy.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Well, man, I'm a time. I'm an old school guy. I don't know if this is he doesn't want to get shot in the shins or he does like baseball. Nonetheless, he's not a mandatory minicamp. We do not know what his feelings are. But we hope everything works out because he has been awesome alongside Josh Allen and that Buffalo Bills football team. We hope everything works out. Stephon.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Good luck, Stephon. Another person I report in camp up in New England. Guy who's been on this particular program. That's right. Former teammate of mine, Lawrence Guy. Yeah. A man who was a part of the all-decade team for the New England Patriots. Love him.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That's right. His entire career has been as a New England Patriot pretty much, even though he played for the Colts and a couple other places. He has become a star in the Bill Belichick scheme. he's missing mandatory minicamp well that doesn't happen up in New England Connor especially for an all-decade patriot like Lawrence Guy what's going on is all hell-breakingly yeah I don't know you know I love the man of the year that's right we have a few of those on the roster and I love Larry Guy he's got more QB prethers than most people on the New England Patriots, but with that being said, he was the first
Starting point is 00:37:27 team D-tackle of the 2010 decade. We're talking about 2023, and we're talking about a guy named DeAndre Hopkins possibly coming, so sure. If this guy wants to try and milk the horse for a couple more pennies, few more shekels for old Larry
Starting point is 00:37:44 Guy, do what you want. Absolutely. I also respect that move because he knows what he's worth, and right now he doesn't feel as though he's being compensated for that worth. But I think everybody in New England, I think most people on the Patriots roster would say, yeah, look, if we've got to lose a James Robinson, if we have to lose who we just signed in March to a two-year deal.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And then we just cut him yesterday to save $1.6 million. And maybe we have to lose a Larry guy in order to make a little more room to pay DeAndre Hopkins, you know, $15, $16 million. I'm sorry, but that is what's going to happen. Yeah, and we talked to Ninkovich on this particular program. Great beard out of Purdue. Won a couple Super Bowls. He's the classic Patriot guy. Yes. Literally the classic Patriot guy. Goes to bat for him. He has told us
Starting point is 00:38:28 that negotiating with Bill is not fun. He said because he was like Mr. Patriot Ninkovich. Oh yeah, big time. Won Super Bowls, I'll do whatever the hell you need me to do. Fit perfect in the scheme, been there a long time. And then you go in and negotiate with actually Bill. Because Bill is the general manager. And Bill's like,
Starting point is 00:38:44 Nink, did you see yourself last year? Come on. If this was four years ago, Nick, I would have loved to give you that. And I'm sure somebody will offer you that. I can't do that, because I'm paying you for what I'm thinking you're going to play the next three years.
Starting point is 00:38:58 You're old as fucking dirt, Nick. What? What are you? I had 11 sacks last year. Yeah, but a couple of those you stole. What? You know? Like, that's how Bill allegedly, with what Nink told us, there's some really awkward conversations happening with Bill Belichick
Starting point is 00:39:12 because that's how he does business. Now, this is the greatest general manager in the history of fucking football if you really want to have that conversation because they were the greatest dynasty in the history of football. And so he's always counted as the greatest coach in the history of football. He also built the teams. Yes. And he negotiated the contracts. And he scripted out the salary cap. And how much money he's always counted as the greatest coach in the history of football he also built the teams yes and he negotiated the contracts and he scripted out the salary cap and how much money he's going to spend on what now you have tom brady being a hero taking less money and up front and all this salary cap gymnastics that everybody's doing they've been doing for a
Starting point is 00:39:36 long time yes bill belichick's been using analytics and all this other shit for a long long time greatest gm of all but he will not get got. No. Even if he loves you. If he loves you as a person, which I assume Loren's guy, he loves. Absolutely, yeah. Loren's guy will do whatever. Consummate pro. Has done whatever for Bill. Block kicks, cool. Cover punts, cool.
Starting point is 00:39:57 You want me to play D-tackle, cool. I will do whatever. Had a lot of success, been great. But Bill is not a guy. I think Teddy Bruschi, right? Oh, yeah. Teddy Bruschi's like, hey, you've done good, but whatever had a lot of success been great but bill is not a guy i think teddy bruski right oh yeah teddy bruski's like hey you've done good but i'm not able to write a check to you anymore no chance there's no way i mean frabel so yeah frabel same thing yeah same thing i think there's like a list of those guys yeah there's a ton of them so lauren's guy has seen all that yeah and especially like the the guys who aren't like lauren's are the first-rounders that Bill has said,
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'm obviously not going to pay you that. Really, the only time it happens is when he knows there's a guy out there that will come in and be perfect in the system. Gilmore, he got broken off, but he was a free agent. Revis. Revis. Randy. Randy.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Judon. We traded for Randy, but still, he signed and gave him money. Judon, they just paid more recently. He was probably the most expensive free agent right after Gilmore or right there next to him. So the tough part is in-house. Like in-house, there really isn't that much leeway for people. So that leads to the Patriots with DeHop now.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So Bill Belichick was asked yesterday by the media about his Dehop's trip in Jeopardy because we saw him, Tim McGraw, Sprinter Van, Nashville doing the thing, Broadway. Yeah, whole situation with him as a Titan. And Bill Belichick said like, I'm not a fucking travel agent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:22 So I don't know the logistics behind it. I'm not going to say something right now and then you're going to say that i misled you tomorrow because what i'm saying right now isn't 100 accurate there's a lot more involved in this than just me the logistics of this whole thing so that's all i gotta say about that fuck off it's what bill belichick said oh yeah that's actually what he said to the media press that was just yesterday so that led us to believe like oh maybe there is a little something about d hop not getting out of the building in tennessee free agent goes in don't let him out of the building, let's make him a Titan before he can even do that.
Starting point is 00:41:48 He is now scheduled, depending upon if you believe Rappaport, who will join us at 1.15 Eastern Standard Time, or if you believe Jordan Schultz of the Schultz Report, who is saying he's going on Thursday as opposed to Wednesday. Whatever the case, whatever the day, who knows? I'm not a fucking travel agent. I do not know the case. But D-Hop is going to New England. D-Hop just had a great visit to Tennessee. He has said, I think, to us about Bill O'Brien, all good.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Don't even worry about that. Let's move on. They need a weapon up there in New England. I would assume that Bill is going to try his fucking best not to let D-Hop get out of the building. For sure. Because to your point, if he has eyes on something and likes something and thinks that they can fit in their system, and he's like, I mean, having a visit after Tennessee Titans is a big thing,
Starting point is 00:42:31 he's going to go all in here, I think. Don't you think, Pac? I think so, too. And he told us about the relationship that he had with Coach. And I think for the Patriots to be even talked about, they have to go and get him. They don't really have a true dog.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Who do you have? Hunter Henry? Hunter Henry, Devontae Parker, Ramondre, Juju, he just signed. He hasn't practiced yet. Mike is sick. Juju has not practiced yet? I don't believe so. I believe he's hurt. Yeah, but good energy in the building. Good energy, that's for sure. Juju good, but he's not a one. No.
Starting point is 00:43:04 We agree. He's a two or a three. He agrees, too, I think. What I'm saying there with the division they is, they's big boy football over there, you know. They need another guy that can dominate one side of the field, and I think DeHop is the guy. I think Bill got enough money over there to give him what he wants. Yeah, you guys do have the –
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, we were at 14 yesterday, and then we cleared another one, two, I think, with James Robinson. So we can't actually give him what he wants. Yeah, you guys do have the... Yeah, we were at 14 yesterday, and then we cleared another 1-2, I think, with James Robinson. So we can actually give him 15 a year, and next year, right now at least, we have the most cap space next year. And now it all comes down to, like, you know, do you want to see Tim McGraw on a Sunday?
Starting point is 00:43:39 Exactly. Boom. But also... Yeah, but do you want to maybe have Jon Bon Jovi at your house for dinner? And he can do the whole living on a prayer. I didn't see Jon Bon Jovi sitting by Kraft in that suite this year. No, he was there. He had a couple games.
Starting point is 00:43:52 I think he was a couple seats down with the kid, wasn't he? He wasn't right next to Kraft. So Jonathan on his left, usually Jon Bon Jovi, sometimes Chesney on his right. Nah, not this past season. Jon Bon had his time. Let's not put Jon Bon in the current day with Tim. McGraw? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Tony. John Bond? Tony, you son of a bitch. All right. I said he had his day. Okay, what is he, 85 now? I would guess he and Tim McGraw are about the same age. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:44:21 They don't look the same age. John Bond, Joby ain't some fucking also-ran, Tony, and we're not saying that about Tim McGraw, okay? They don't look the same age. Good Lord. They don't look the same age. Bon Jovi ain't some fucking also-ran, Tony, and we're not saying that about Tim McGraw, okay? They don't look the same age. I'll tell you that. That's because Jon Bon Jovi's been doing billion-dollar business. Yeah, he's a dog. Jon Bon's 61.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Tim's 56. Exactly. Boom. Yeah. Five years. Hold up a picture of their stomachs, okay? Well, Tim McGraw went sober just a few years ago. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Zoom. Jon Bon likes to drink wiggy. Zoom, Tony, okay? Well, Tim McGraw went sober just a few minutes ago. John Bond likes to drink wiggy. Sue him, Tony. They're just not in the same category. Well, congrats to D-Hop, and we'll hopefully learn more from Rapaport in about 30 minutes. Hopefully you'll have some answers.
Starting point is 00:44:58 This guy never does. Especially when Schultz, he's pulling the rug out from underneath. Tuesday or Wednesday. Elbow drop. So he rapped before I just saw his Instagram story. I hope he doesn't do this bullshit again where he guilt trips me. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:12 On his publicly. Yep. That was bull. I don't like that. Not one bit. Never does that, too. Today, or that time, he just felt like he, you know, could. Well, I'm having the best round of my life life and I'm going to stop midway through because
Starting point is 00:45:26 I'm doing the badminton. It's like, bro, it's a Wednesday in the middle of summer. Do not come on this show. Real hero. 12 holes. It was the best I played but I'm here. I love doing this show. It's like, alright, hero. That's about enough on you. We'll pat you on the back.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I got a baby right now. I got enough already. He was on a golf course today. PXG is his club. He was in the middle of the fairway. It feels like the photo that he took from his Instagram story was as if he was playing well again. If this son of a bitch comes in here and says that we cut off his round, I'm going to be so mad at him.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Hang up on him. I am. Yeah, done with it. We'll call Schultz. He's definitely going to sit. Fuck it. But what we do know is he's on the golf course, so he's not... There he is. That's not him. The little we do know is he's on the golf course, so he's not. There he is. That's not him. The little one? No, that's not him.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Well, the little one. That might be him. We don't know. There's a chance. Might be him. But look at that. That's a pretty good shot. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Also, you know, get your ass out of bed and go play earlier. Well, that is certainly something. Yeah, it is. But the bigger point is, what does this guy know? He's been on a golf course walking a golf course. He doesn't know anything. No, that's a good point. This is offseason with Rappaport. This is us telling him things are happening. Do you know Schultz actually said, well,
Starting point is 00:46:35 actually to you, he's, oh, I didn't see that. Oh, well, yeah, I do see that now I'm going through my phone. You know, this is like Rappaport's family time, downtime, golf time. We appreciate it. but if he's going, come on, we want some information. Come on. Especially on the Patriots because he used to fucking work there. Yeah, very well tied in New
Starting point is 00:46:52 England. I'm starting to think it's kind of like an A.J. Hawk situation with Rapshie where he knows a bunch, but he just won't say anything. Yeah, we did learn that about A.J. through the Aaron Rodgers. Yep. Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, we haven't talked about this. Love this. He's had more fun he's had in a while. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Isn't he? Ever. He was at the Tonys. Obviously, we talked about this yesterday. He was at the Tonys. He looked so cool. Oh, yeah. Cool jacket with the shirt sewn in.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Boom. So he just didn't even have to. Just one jacket, one piece. Sweet. There was CJ Uzama in a bow tie. What a lame Aaron was. Just your first Tonys. He is.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Oh, it is. He's going to the Wicked or whatever the play is. Yeah was saying. Kiss your first daddy. It is. He's going to the Wicked or whatever the play is. Broadway. He's going everywhere. He's doing everything. He's in every practice. And now Robert Sala is saying, hey, take the last week off, boys. We got the Hall of Fame game. You're all going to have to come a week earlier. Absolute bullshit. But go ahead and take the week off.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Here's Robert Sala about canceling the final phase of OTAs because of the success thus far in their OTAs. You know, at the Hall of Fame game, we're reporting a week earlier than everybody else. The worst. And guys need to get away. We've been here. They've put in a really good offseason.
Starting point is 00:47:56 All the guys have since, God, April. So April, May, June. And, you know, just to give the guys the extra week to go take their break. Because you need a week off. And then you've got to rev back up to get ready for the season. And if we're having this extra week, taking the week off, then the fourth – there's just a lot of things that can mess up the flow. But we'll pick it up, and we'll regain it once we get back for the Hall of Fame game. So the players are not required to be here at all?
Starting point is 00:48:24 No, dude. Yeah, that's what that means. Jeez Louise. Okay, we're taking a week off early. get back for the Hall of Fame game. So the players are not required to be here at all? Yep. No, dude. That's what that means. Geez Louise. Okay. We're taking a week off early. Not the first coach or team to do this. No.
Starting point is 00:48:33 This has happened on a very regular occasion. Obviously it's in New York. It's for the Jets and Aaron Rodgers is a part of it. So it's going to be made into something. So all the internet going, Aaron's pulling all the strings over here. Aaron's saying we need a little of this. We need a little bit of that. I think what this means is that things are going fucking great.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Teams aren't taking work off if they don't think things are very good and they haven't accomplished what they needed to have accomplished in this particular thing. Aaron has been there every single day. Calf strain happened, still on field practice. In the meeting room, they're saying he's chirping up. Giving quizzes. He's giving quizzes in the middle of fucking meetings, in offensive meetings. He's literally in there for the beginning of a lot of these guys learning the offense.
Starting point is 00:49:11 So it's almost like 101 becomes 401 because the shit that you're going to adjust naturally on the field, Aaron's already telling them while they're learning the offense, hey, we're doing this so that if a guy does this, we can also do this afterwards. Normally you're learning this, and then it's like, okay, if this guy comes here, now we're going to break it off. Aaron's like, this is what I'm going to be looking for. This is how this is going to go. It's kind of like a merging of offenses between what Hackett likes,
Starting point is 00:49:36 what Aaron likes, and then everybody learning it at the same time. Feels like they're going to be way ahead of the normal quarterback getting dropped into the new team routine like Matt Ryan was with the Indianapolis Colts. Where he wasn't speaking the same language as the offensive line. So he was getting murdered every single play. Feels like they're doing great things over there in New York. That's why the week's off and the boys are going to fucking love that. Yeah, what a fucking player coach this is.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Shout out to Hack. But Hack, I'm going to say. Sala. Sala. And speaking on Hack. Aaron has been with Hack before before so he knows the offense so all the other guys that's been there before this trade happened they probably been in what install six aaron coming in i already know install one through 20 because he knows the offense so of course they must have been doing really good um thank god they
Starting point is 00:50:24 don't really have no real injuries. Coach is getting them out of there early because they got to come early. That Hall of Fame game is a bunch of bullshit for the players. It sucks. Oh, my God. No one really even playing the game. Nope. But got to go to camp a week earlier.
Starting point is 00:50:39 No, sorry, get to. Get to go to camp a week earlier. That's always the spin. Definitely hotter that week. Yeah, you know, hotter that week yeah you know you know that last week that you're kind of just taking in let me get some more family time booze time family whatever you want to do that's gone and then while all your friends that are around the league are watching you sit in dorm rooms you guys already report oh oh
Starting point is 00:50:59 jeez wow not even a game you're playing in. Nope. Nobody's going to watch. Nobody. You can go to camp now. And guess what else you get to do? You get to stay in camp for as long as everybody else. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Oh. Yeah. Don't get a week off. No, you won't get out early. Yeah, you get to. You get an extra week and a half. Yeah. It is so nice of them to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:51:22 But it's for the Hall of Famers. Of course. So, congrats to the Hall of Famers. Shout out to the Hall of Famers. So, congrats to the Hall of Famers. Shout out to the Hall of Famers. I love what Salah's doing, though. And Aaron being there, enjoying the hell out of it, having a blast, being a part of the install. I think it's all good for quickness. And I don't think Aaron's like, you know, Aaron's been pretty open about it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I don't think he's commented about how long he's going to be there. He doesn't want to fucking wait around either. So, whenever people are talking about him not going to OTAs, it's like, he's going to OTAs. He's been there the whole time. He about him not going to OTAs, it's like, he's going to OTAs. He's been there the whole time. He's going to go to OTAs. This is a much different story than maybe what was happening at Green Bay where that has already been in and the offense has already been in there. He didn't have time to wait, but then whenever he said
Starting point is 00:51:54 I might miss a few because I have things set up and he never missed a single day. So I think that is either the coach is telling him like, hey, we need you to stick around a little bit or him being like, ah, should be here, should be here. Either way, good news. Yeah, I mean, you hit the nail on the head.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Like, this is an atypical situation, because I think just because he was in Green Bay so long, people think like, oh, you know, new quarterback, having to learn a new offense. Like, he's played in this offense a bunch. He knows it probably, you know, just as well, if not better than Hackett does, knows what he likes in it. And then they also, like, they've really liked what they've seen
Starting point is 00:52:25 in terms of him and Garrett Wilson being on the same page. They got Brees Hall back, and I think it said, you know, he ran. They had the track man on him or whatever, and he ran 23 miles an hour. It was faster than any time he was running last year. So it's like he's healthy, he's good. Like, I think everything that they kind of wanted to see, they've already seen it. So it's like, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:52:44 You know, let's do three more practices and we can blow out a knee. Exactly. That don't matter. I think everything that they kind of wanted to see, they've already seen it. So it's like, what are we doing? Let's do three more practices and we can blow out a knee. Exactly. That don't matter. Let's just keep them going here. Because they know they're primed. It's like, hey, we know we're going to be good. We're ready to go.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Let's not fuck something up and have some guy tear an ACL within these next three days when no one really needs to be here. Aaron has also never been shy about how he thinks the team is looking right now. True. In interviews, he's always been very, very open about, we've got a lot to figure out. We've got a good defense, though. Offensively, we've got some shit to figure out. Every conversation he's given publicly has been very him and Wilson.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Great. I mean, there is full connection. You're seeing catches from Lazard. You're seeing everything happen. It's like everything he's saying is indicating that he thinks they're in a good spot, which is a big deal, I think. I think that you can read that as good from the outside. It's not bullshit.
Starting point is 00:53:32 He's not just going to lie. No. If he thought there was actual problems, he's not scared to say them ever. And the Jets already have their starters. Besides the line, everything else, they have starters. You get what I'm saying? So they know the morale of their team or they have starters. You get what I'm saying? So they know the morale of their team or the structure
Starting point is 00:53:47 of their team or what they wanted to look like. Now they might can plug and play at the line part, but they like the Bengals. They got their starters. You get what I'm saying? So they know what it should look like. And obviously it probably looked pretty good. Oh yeah. Videos are great. Yeah, they look really good. Videos are real good. It's the best the Jets have
Starting point is 00:54:03 been definitely in my lifetime. Yeah, looking at least.. Videos look real good. It's the best the Jets have been definitely in my lifetime. Looking, at least. Yeah, looking, at least. Yeah, they went to AFC Championships. But how big is it for Alan Lazar to be there, too? Because he can tell the other receivers. And Cobb. Yeah, like, hey, this is what he likes.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Obviously, Rogers is going to tell him, too. Hackett, who's offense coordinator, he's running the meetings. But they're saying in the meetings, like Aaron's going like, whoa, whoa, whoa, why are we doing that in the middle of it? And he said that he's never found a good meeting that is just completely quiet yeah meetings have to be interactive for people to stay engaged i agree with that actually and a lot of coaches are asking for interaction as opposed to you know mitt's dad special teams and special teams 7 30 every single morning oh yeah it's very early first meeting of the
Starting point is 00:54:39 fucking day it is very early it involves everybody on the team except for like the quarterbacks and the wide receivers so there's a lot of miserable motherfuckers in there. So if you don't keep that thing light, like when Tom was speaking, I don't shit talk him in the middle of that thing or ask a question. You got people snoozing, not paying attention at all, kind of drifting away.
Starting point is 00:54:58 So I think what Aaron's doing is quizzing them. The other guys who are young, that Jets team's young. Very young. It says it keeps you on your toes, keeps you attentive and in there. And I think they're experiencing like, hey, we have a shot at this now. And they all can feel it. And imagine if they fucking pull it.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Could you imagine, Aaron, if they go and win a Super Bowl? He'll be a fucking king. Most impressive Super Bowl. Just the way he will talk about that. Will be. And I know there's a lot of people that said the Jets haven't won since the 60s and Aaron doing all his bullshit. When I was getting
Starting point is 00:55:29 cheers at Madison Square Garden, they were saying oh, there's a honeymoon phase when they go to three and one. We didn't. I've never actually done that in my career. Even my worst years, we win nine, ten games. You put me on his team and we're all doubted. We're all counting out. We're the Jets. That's what Jets are. Then obviously first year there, we win the fucking Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I win the MVP. Like, listening to him talk about it afterwards, he wants to do that. Yeah. He would like that to happen. Absolutely. And it feels like he's all the way invested, enjoying it. Congrats to the Jets. Seemingly a great start.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yeah. And Stephon Diggs not being there for Buffalo. Huge for the Jets. So, let's stick in the AFC East. There's an update on the Stephon Diggs situation. Adam Schefter is reporting that Stephon Diggs' agent, Adisa Bakari, said his client is in Buffalo, has been in Buffalo since yesterday
Starting point is 00:56:11 morning, took his physical, met with the head coach and GM in the past two days, and the Pro Bowl wide receiver will be there for the entirety of the minicamp. Now, let's go to McDermott's quote from yesterday. It is very concerning that Stephon Diggs is not at minicamp. So, none of this makes sense.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Seems to be a bit of a clusterfuck, miscommunication. But also, maybe McDermott and them did not look at his Instagram to be able to articulate the feelings in which Stephon Diggs was feeling. True. We hope that this all gets squared away. If he's in Buffalo, you would assume that's good news. Yeah. McDermott being very concerned, not good news.
Starting point is 00:56:46 He's trolling? We will keep our eyes on the situation. McDermott said he was very concerned an hour ago, but Stephon Diggs was there yesterday? Yesterday morning? Yeah, is McDermott just fucking with us? Because that's also awesome. Maybe he's just trolling.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Yeah. Yeah, I'm very concerned. I'm scared. I haven't seen him. I haven't seen his Instagram either. That's bad. Heard he had a shin guard on? That's not good.
Starting point is 00:57:07 He likes baseball? What is that all about? I guess you can't really read the tone in his response, so he could have said it sarcastically, and we're reading it like he's... The same way he said he was going to take that shirt off and show you that tank top he had. Yeah, they did tell me he's properly jocked. What if Stephon Diggs walked in the meeting wearing that?
Starting point is 00:57:24 Are those Darius shoes? You know what I mean? What if he? No, those are Robert De Niro's from the Irishman. Now, close. Add an extra, what, 45 inches? Yep. Alexander McQueen's.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Oh, okay. Hey, wow. Is that a real answer? How much are those? Who's Alexander McQueen? How much are those? 18 to 2,000. Jeez, get out of town
Starting point is 00:57:45 Think about that Shingorg too bro You think they make that fucking type of money No definitely not That 18 to 2 grand I could see that Imagine him walking into McDermott's office You know walking in there with that thing McDermott going
Starting point is 00:57:58 What happened What is going on And then McDermott's like Alright nice seeing you Stefan And then he goes into the interview and they're like, Stefan Diggs, I'm very concerned. Go shin pads on.
Starting point is 00:58:12 All right, let's get to a break. Stefan Diggs, great football player. Hey, be who you can afford to be. It's true. This is it through and through. Let's get to a break. AJ Hawk will be on the other side. We have Ian Rappaport joining us.
Starting point is 00:58:21 What does he know from the golf course about Stefan Diggs? Is he there? Is he not there? Is he in Buffalo? What? Maybe he's at the casino. It'll be. Great casino. Maybe he's out and about. The bars don't close until like 4 or 4.30.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah, they rip it. One up to Niagara Falls? Maybe. One up to Wall of Mushroom? Montreal? Have you ever been out in Buffalo? I'm not a Buffalo guy. What's that? It's awesome. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's McDermott giving his actual answer
Starting point is 00:58:50 about Stephon Diggs whenever he was asked about his presence or non-presence at many camps in which at some point in here we saw the quote on the internet where he says he's very concerned. Is everyone here? I know there's a lot of questions about Stephon. Yeah. Steph is not here.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Everybody else is here at the current time. Very concerned. Yeah, very concerned. I'm not going to get into it. And listen, I respect everyone's questions and what they want to know about our team. Right now, I'm just not going to get into that anymore anymore so we'll talk about practice happy to do that happy to answer those questions um and we'll move forward from there i mean that's not good no that's like let's get to a break so what the fuck did the agent say to chef he's there he did lick his lips after he gave his answer so
Starting point is 00:59:41 maybe he was holding back a laugh yeah but did he look up and did it right? Allegedly, because that's when you're creating stuff. Yeah. Did he? That's what they say. Dateline. Right in the middle. Body language experts. It's right in the middle.
Starting point is 00:59:58 There it is. He had a cotton mouth. Yeah. Maybe he had an edible. Hot up there, too. What if McDermott's up there on fucking 50 milligrams? He could be. Maybe. I don't know if he is too. What if McDermott's up there on fucking 50 milligrams? He could be. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I don't know if he is or not. I'm assuming he's not. But if I had Stephon Diggs walk in with a shin guard and tell me he wasn't going to practice, I might. All right. I got to get on it. Fuck it. There's some Lightning McQueen's on.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Might make sense. Jeez. Alex. Alex McQueen. Lightning sounds cool. Alex McQueen. Where are those from? Those from another country? There's a cricket one. Steve McQueen? Yeah. Who's Al McQueen. Lightning sounds cool. Alexander McQueen. Where are those from? Those are from another country.
Starting point is 01:00:25 They look like London. Steve McQueen? Yeah, who's Al McQueen? Those people are wearing pants. He's a British designer. Do you have any of those, Pac? Do you have any of those? Not that exact one, but I have a pair of them.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Oh, you and McQueen know each other? Yeah. Sweet. I'm into it. Are those sweatshorts? Bro, he looks so cool. I actually fucking love this outfit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:44 You want a shin guard in here one day? I can pull that off Yeah yeah Go get a shin guard You should do like a goalie pad though On a shin guard He's got like UGG shorts on That's what those look like
Starting point is 01:00:55 Like a UGG kind of feel The rings are cool Yeah pointer finger ring is so cool You know what I mean? Yeah Put one of those on And a pinky one You got a book in on a punch.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Get you both eyes with some metal. Press knuckles. I ain't going to practice. We'll talk to AJ Hawk on the other side. Where's Stefan? He's in Buffalo. Maybe he's in Wings. He might know.
Starting point is 01:01:15 He's in France for so long. He's in Paris. He was down in the backyard with Trayvon doing his thing. Yeah. Then he gets up to Buffalo. He just starts. Goes to the anchor bar. Just starts house in Wings. Forgets time. Yep. Doesn't know he's up to Buffalo. He just starts, goes to the anchor bar, just starts house and wings.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Forgets time. Doesn't know he's supposed to be there. Shit, let me grab my shingar. Let's go to break. Water looks fantastic. Joining us now is a man who's normally glowing. Because inside he has zero toxicity. None though. He is the picture of optimism. He's a man who's a college football national
Starting point is 01:01:44 champion, a Super Bowl champion's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, the current reigning, defending, undisputed, shout out to Paul Heyman, president slash champion of Ohio, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, father of 10, multi-time COVID survivor. The accolades go on and on because this guy might be an alien. AJ Hawke.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Steve Jobs look today. You look sweet. What's going on, pal? How are you? What's up? I think I'm a very positive person. You made a joke like I wasn't very positive. No, it wasn't a joke. I'm not joking. I'm telling the truthy truth. That's what I do. You don't make jokes about me. No. Is that a new thing I don't know about?
Starting point is 01:02:25 The truthy truth and jokey joke? No, it just kind of came about as life is going. Let's talk about life. No. Is that a new thing I don't know about, the truthy truth and jokey joke? No, it just kind of came about as life is going. Let's talk about life is going. Joker's a champion. What did you see from him last night that made you laugh? What did you see from him that made you excited about the future? And what do you think about the Denver Nuggets getting a chance to celebrate the first ever world championship? I was happy to see Denver do it, even though I was –
Starting point is 01:02:42 I guess if I had to pick a team, I was probably rooting for Miami more. I knew that they were up against it. It a team, I was probably rooting for Miami more. I knew that they were up against it. It was going to be tough sledding for them. But fun to see everyone react to Joker and his celebrations and everything. I think the guy just likes to celebrate with his teammates or back home or whatever. I saw the video of him dancing back home around a fire. Like, he still likes to get after it, but I guess probably just not in front of cameras that much.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Yeah, he's a private guy. Yeah, very. He's a private partier. No one even knew he had a kid. Nothing wrong with that. Till the playoff. We've seen that he has a kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Beautiful baby. Gorgeous. Absolutely. Joker's brothers are there. His lady's there. He ties the wedding ring around his shoes every single day. And then you think about that supporting cast out there in Denver, AJ. I mean, Aaron Gordon was shirtless out on the streets last night with Denver. He and the rest of the boys are on contracts for the foreseeable future.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah, him, Michael Porter Jr., Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray is two years, and he's like the shortest of the people that need to be re-upped. So that team is going to be together for some time. Good news. Great for Denver. And they love each other over there. And when you have a superstar that seemingly is that humble,
Starting point is 01:03:42 he can get away with doing whatever. And I think Joker's going to be their guy for a long time. He seems to be pretty rare, right? superstar that seemingly is that humble he can get away with doing whatever and i think joker's going to be their guy for a long time he seems to be pretty rare right not only in what he can do physically and everything about it but just how he can facilitate everybody else and he can be that guy that hey gets the ball and he's going to go one-on-one and isolate but he also keeps everybody involved and they know like hey at any moment this ball could be coming to me he was pissed on the bench last night yeah Yeah, it was sweet. Jamal Murray got up and kind of moved out of the way, actually,
Starting point is 01:04:09 whenever he was sitting there doing, ah, ah, ah. And we've seen him get pissed off at the refs before. Oh, yeah. And I don't know exactly what he was pissed off in that particular thing because they didn't have captions on it, although I believe at some point AI needs to figure out how we can have everything captioned. Okay, need everything captioned. Automatically.
Starting point is 01:04:23 So I can read along with it. Not that YouTube doesn't already do it, but TV needs to be able to do it with things that are being said, even lip reading. Let's start figuring out lip reading. Everybody needs to stay on their P's and Q's. I can lip read this whole thing. But watching him show emotion was
Starting point is 01:04:38 fantastic. Afterwards, none. Nothing. Absolutely none. He jumped in the pool, though. He took Jamal Murray in the pool, though. That was cool. Think about how deep that pool had to be for them to be comfortable enough to dive into it at seven feet tall and whatever Jamal Murray. Cannonball after. With his brothers, too, on the court.
Starting point is 01:04:55 He showed up. Yeah. I bet you when they got home. Oh, yeah. You can probably tell they had a really good time behind closed doors. Yeah. So maybe that's why he was so upset about Thursday. Oh, he wanted to go. Because he was like, Thursday, 48 hours, I'm going to be hungover.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Thursday. Fuck. Fuck. I got to go home. I got to go home. Yeah. Parade in Serbia. There's a video, too, of him in Serbia last year when he got the MVP and the Nuggets surprised
Starting point is 01:05:21 him and showed up at his house in Serbia and he's like crying and everything. So he does care. He didn't show it, and then all his interviews are just hilarious. Okay, let's pivot to the NFL because we'll have Ian Rappaport joining us in about a minute, but let's go ahead and set the stage. Tafon Diggs in Buffalo, not at mandatory minicamp. How concerned are you, Sean McDermott? I'm very concerned.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Why is it happening? I'm not talking about it anymore. Okay? I'm very concerned. He's not here. Everybody else is here. He's not here? I'm not talking about it anymore. I'm very concerned. He's not here. Everybody else is here. He's not here. I'm not happy about it. And Schefter's reporting at his agent saying he is there. He did the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:05:51 He met with the GM, met with the coach. Sean McDermott would be like, what's going on here, AJ? Just early thoughts on the situation that is brewing in Buffalo as we speak in the offseason, which doesn't really matter, but kind of maybe does. A little bit, yeah. Yeah, it definitely means something.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I just don't understand at all the situation, the fact that I don't think the coach is trolling. I saw you guys say, oh, maybe he is trolling. After watching the video, I don't think that's the case. Here's Sean McDermott answering the question about who's at mandatory minicamp, who's not at mandatory minicamp, why Stephon Diggs not here. Here's Sean McDermott's answer to it all. You let us know your
Starting point is 01:06:28 thoughts on if he's okay with everything that's popping off. Is everyone here? I know there's a lot of questions about Stefan. Yeah, Steph is not here. Everybody else is here at the current time. How concerned are you about that?
Starting point is 01:06:44 Very concerned. Very concerned. Yeah, fucking not happy about it. Not the best. I'm not going to get into it. And listen, I respect everyone's questions and what they want to know about our team. Right now, I'm not going to get into that anymore. So we'll talk about practice.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Happy to do that. Happy to answer those questions. And we'll move forward from there. So the PR guy telling him, hey, you're going to get asked about Stephon Diggs. And coach is like, I'm just going to tell him he's not here. I'm concerned. Stop asking. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Like, well, that's probably not the best. That's what I'm doing. Too bad. All right, I'm going in there right now. That's what I'm going to say. This is a whole situation now, you know, and they're going to have to answer questions about this. Every teammate's going to have to answer questions about this
Starting point is 01:07:22 because of the way it was kind of unfolding here publicly in the middle of June. June 13th now. We got a little bit of drama on a team that we think could go win a Super Bowl, Pac-Man Jones. And he just signed the deal. I don't understand why he wouldn't be there. It's not like he's holding out to get more money. He got four
Starting point is 01:07:39 more years on his deal. Maybe he forgot. Maybe it was the photo shoot. Maybe he was having Buffalo Wings. Maybe he was jumping through tables. What the hell? He was going ram jam through a table.
Starting point is 01:07:55 That's why he had the shin guard on. Makes more sense. That's how he was doing. Joining us now is a man who maybe has more answers. Just got off the golf course as if he doesn't golf enough, but we do appreciate the fact that he takes time for his own more answers. Just got off the golf course as if, you know, he doesn't golf enough, but we do appreciate the fact that he takes time for his own little mental sanity and gets on the golf course. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of the weekly wrap-up of the Rap Sheet and Friends,
Starting point is 01:08:12 us being the friends, he being Rap Sheet, from the NFL Network, ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Yay! Rap looks so cool yet again. That C on your chest, what is that for? Columbia? Columbia, yes. Yep.
Starting point is 01:08:24 My alma mater. Is that one of these? is that for? Columbia? Columbia, yes. Yep. My alma mater. Is that one of these? I played in a golf tournament. I played terrible, but on one hole, I was closest to the pin, so I got a free shirt. Hell yeah. They're seeing Rappaport all
Starting point is 01:08:39 juiced out of his mind on a rowing boat, a crew boat, in which he wasn't the best because he was the most heavy. And they actually say, you taking steroids is making our team worse. It's like adding an anchor to a boat. But we do appreciate you committing to the explosion that it takes to kind of do this whole thing. Thank you for joining us.
Starting point is 01:08:56 There's a lot popping off right now in this mandatory minicamp conversation. In Buffalo, they're going to go win the Super Bowl, this team. Von Miller is back healthy. Josh Allen's still there. McDermott's still there. Bean's still there. They add Leonard Floyd. They pay Ed Oliver. They have everything going in the right trajectory. Then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:09:15 mandatory minicamp pops off, and Stephon Diggs, the guy they gave five years to just a year ago, with four years left on his deal, who had a little bit of conversation drama at the end of the season, is not at practice, but then his agent tells Schefter he is in Buffalo, so he gets confused. Is he in wings? Why is he not at camp?
Starting point is 01:09:31 What's McDermott saying? What's going on with Stephon Diggs and the Buffalo Beals as we stand right now, Tuesday, June 13th? Well, first of all, let's get to the most important part. It is basically impossible for Stephon Diggs to not be on the Bills this season. So, like, sometimes we have drama where a player will want to be traded, want a new contract, want different things.
Starting point is 01:09:51 And we'll say like, and we've talked about it, like Danielle Hunter, Buddha Baker requested a trade. There's a couple of them. Stefan Diggs is contract because of the way it's structured is essentially untradeable. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:03 And he's also, you know, everything I guess could be money, but he's making $24 million this year based on the new $96 million deal he signed last year. So this doesn't feel to me like it's about the money because that is a whole lot of money, but there's definitely something. I mean, remember last year,
Starting point is 01:10:21 he left before talking to reporters against the Bengals, I think it was. There was some sideline stuff. And I hate to be the sideline body language guy, but there was definitely some stuff. There was some cryptic tweets. There's a little some sort of frustration going on. And again, like, Diggs is not going anywhere. But if he wanted to show them, like, just so you guys know, all is not 100% well, this is a way to do it that doesn't really hurt
Starting point is 01:10:48 anybody. Why is his agent telling Schefter that he's in town, but he's not in the building? Why is McDermott saying he hasn't seen him? And then the agent's saying, no, you've seen him. Is he going to a casino in Buffalo? They got a good bar scene? Oh, they do have casinos in Buffalo. Yeah, they got a casino.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Great. Buffalo is a great time. Their bars don't shut, essentially. Their bars pretty much say, oh, real. Now we're talking. You know, you want to, oh, real. Let's see. You want to go to a four? You got it.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Let's see if you can make it. That's kind of what they do. And Niagara Falls is very close as well. You just drive off the road a little bit. It's a great time. I mean, Buffalo. The wings really are great. I know you're joking, but if he was like,
Starting point is 01:11:26 hey, look, guys, I'm going to bar bill to go get some wings, I would be like, you do you, Stefan Diggs. I don't know if Sean McDermott would say that because he would say the wings will be there whenever you're not at practice, but why is his agent saying that, you think? What's the angle of that?
Starting point is 01:11:41 I don't know. It's hard to imagine everything as well as that. I saw't know. It's hard to imagine everything is as well as that. And I saw the tweet. It's hard to imagine everything is as well as that sounded. Now, maybe we'll be there. Maybe the reporters will go out in the field. Diggs will be there and we'll say like, all right, cool. But Sean McDermott is a pretty straightforward dude.
Starting point is 01:12:00 He basically says what he means all the time. And if it sounds like he's concerned then i would imagine he's concerned about something um so there's plenty of time to get on the same page whether it's targets whether it's something with the connection with the quarterback again large deal it's a mandatory minicamp there's big fines that could come from this entire thing implications little fines little fines yeah it's uh hold on i have it here let me see what i mean There's big fines that could come from this entire thing. Implications. Little fines. Little fines. Yeah, it's, hold on. I have it here.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Let me see what it is. 16 and 32. That's a lot of money. Yeah, 30. Yeah, and then 90. Yeah. 16, 32 plus, and then up to 99 if you miss all of them. So, like, it's a lot for some people, but if Stefan Diggs was trying to send a message missing one day of
Starting point is 01:12:43 minicamp is a way to do it, I just I would, he is a very well-spoken, very smart, very effusive guy. I would like to know from his mouth what is going on, and if there is something, what is it? Because sometimes he has said it. He is an effusive fucking guy.
Starting point is 01:13:00 He is an effusive son of a bitch. Everybody says that. The effusivity coming out of that guy's boards are just maybe the most effusive things we've heard. His IG post was full of effusivity. Yeah, so much effusiveness just kind of flowing through. Really? It's hard not to double tap the photo with how effusive every photo is. And that's why he's killing the Instagram game, and that's why he's trying to articulate his feelings through there.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Here's one of them. You know, he's trying to articulate his feelings. No shirt? No. Well, he's still got denim, denim, denim, though. He's properly jocked. I wouldn't wear a shirt either. It's his next photo that makes you go, is he half in, half out? Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Oh. You know what I mean? He's trying to articulate feelings. It's the same post. And then the last one that is our favorite one by far is this one because is he saying, I'm tired of taking it on the shins. I got to wear these shin guards. Why is everybody attacking me? That is an old school.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Wait, what is that? That's not a catcher's shin guard. What is that? It could be cricket. It could be deck hockey. It could be a catcher. I mean, it could be anything, to be honest with you. Are you wearing Doc Martens?
Starting point is 01:13:57 Well, they're Alexander McQueen's, you fucking piece of shit. Oh, swine. Uncultured swine. Oh, my bad. Those are $1,800 or $2,000. Good Lord. You don't even know what you're looking at. They can show you greatness and you'd be confused, pal.
Starting point is 01:14:10 It seems like that's what just took place. But what is it then? You know what? Have we had any? He doesn't like how many times he gets the ball? Yeah. I mean, the money part to me, always start with money. I don't see that here.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Again, like he's making so I don't see that here. Again, like he's making so much. They've paid him. He signed an extension, talked about wanting to be there his career. So it's hard to imagine that. If he was going to be traded, where would you honestly rather be? Like there's maybe like one or two teams that are kind of with him. Colts? I don't think either of those are a problem.
Starting point is 01:14:45 That's why the Colts. You need to get the ball, AJ. Jets would be fun. Yes, Jets would be quite fun. Not for the Jets. Did he take his physical, Ian?
Starting point is 01:15:00 The Bills paid him too much to get traded. He's not going nowhere. You cannot do it. You can't do it. So the only sort of evidence we have, or whatever, is his cryptic tweets and then the sidelines conversation with Josh Allen. So maybe they're not on the same page. Most receivers want the ball a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:17 I assume he wants the ball a lot. Either way, what's going to happen now is a conversation about what is wrong with Stefan Diggs and how can they make him happy and how can he be happy I assume that's probably the goal here is so everyone knows like he's not happy let's figure out which way to make him happy I would also say that Sean McDermott is very good at setting expectations and managing personalities I imagine this will be fine. But this does, at least a little bit to me, feel like what happened at the end with the Vikings. I'm not saying it's the end.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Tough not to make that comparison. Tough not to just because, you know, in Minnesota it was like, yeah, this guy hates everybody here. Very clearly. And Bean even said, yeah, it seemed like there was something going on. So I gave a call and said, hey, you guys want to make a trade? They did. He ended up with the Beals. So, like, optically, that's how the deal was pretty much made in there. So hopefully they're able to figure this out.
Starting point is 01:16:12 He's a hell of a football player. Speaking of good football players, go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Rapshie, D-Hop coming to New England. Should I expect the tweet from you today, tomorrow, maybe Thursday? And is that also why we're cutting James Robinson and a couple other guys? I don't think James Robinson has anything to do with that. When he signed, I mean, this is not the most important part, but I'll get through this quickly. When he signed, his deal was redone a little bit to take away his either signing bonus or guaranteed money,
Starting point is 01:16:42 I believe because of the physical. Because, you know, he's had some knee issues, I believe, because of the physical. So when they released him, basically they hadn't paid him anything. So I don't know for sure, but my guess is it has to do with that original situation. Hope it's okay, but it has been, you know, I know there's certainly been some questions about the knee with James Robinson. You're not going to see anything from me today or tomorrow. The visit starts tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Whoa! Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Are you sure about that? Are you sure? Might be Thursday. Schultz Report. Pull it up.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Pull it up. Pull it up. Yeah, it starts tomorrow into Thursday. Yeah. I don't know. There was a little source off. John Hopkins will visit the Patriots on Thursday. This comes after what I'm told was a successful visit.
Starting point is 01:17:30 So you're saying, yeah, he will visit on Thursday. Also on Wednesday is what you're saying, right? Yeah, so he'll fly in Wednesday. A lot of times they'll have like either go to the facility, he'll have dinner. The Patriots do not do a lot of visits at all. So just that this visit is happening to me is extremely noteworthy. I know we talked about this before, but this would make a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:17:51 The money would have to be right, but I will say this. DeAndre Hopkins has a lot of options. He is an extremely good player. Him and Dalvin Cook are the best players by a lot available right now. It is hard for me to imagine that he would take a visit without thinking that the money could be right. I'm not saying there's a deal. I'm just saying there's no way he takes a visit.
Starting point is 01:18:13 He hired an agent, right? Yep. He hired an agent. Kelton Crenshaw. Pats have the cap. I like that they did that, by the way. Lamar did that deal, huh? That's fun.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Everybody's getting agents. Right. Okay. Right now. Ain't that right, Ian. Isn't that kind of what it felt like? Yes. It's good. These are hard deals. You got to make sure you do it right. Hiring an agent is a good move. Not every agent's good.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Not everyone needs to have an agent, but free agency is hard. And having an agent is good. I agree. Good agent. but free agency is hard. Agreed. And having an agent is good. I agree. Good agent. Having a good... We gotta make sure. Everybody just acts like every agent's a good agent. There are some fucking dumb, terrible, bad business agents out there.
Starting point is 01:18:55 That is a real thing, Rob. Yeah, and what we've also learned is that when a player doesn't have an agent... And I do not mean this in a bad way at all, okay? So don't, this is not going to be bad. I'm wearing a Columbia boulder. Spit it out, Dave.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Spit it out. When a player doesn't have an agent, teams make sure that they treat them more than fair. They make sure that they treat, that they don't like take advantage of the player. I will say that. The deals seem to be, Sure about that? Bend over backwards to be fair. Now you're laughing.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Why would that sound bad? I already said I didn't mean it to be bad. So you're saying that it's easier for players to make deals with teams than it is with agents because the teams are bending over backwards, but then you're saying you need an agent actually for free agency. What are you saying here? It seems like you know what you're doing with that Columbia thing on? It seems like you're saying, you need an agent actually for free agency. What are you saying here? It seems like
Starting point is 01:19:45 you know what you're doing with that Columbia thing on? It seems like you're speaking somehow out of both sides of your mouth. I knew as soon as I said it, it wouldn't make sense. One of those things where you try to joke and you're like, oh God, there's going to be silence after this. No, but I understand what you're saying. Whenever Baltimore is dealing with Lamar, it's like, hey, we've got to
Starting point is 01:20:01 deal directly with the human here. He has to be back in our building. We're not talking to an agent who can then dumb down what we said or how rude it was and kind of put it out there. You've got to be a little bit more delicate in those situations when you're handling business. I understand what you're saying completely, but to your point, if you have a good agent, not every agent's good.
Starting point is 01:20:18 That is something that, just like not every mom and every dad is good either. Everybody just like, oh, that person was rude to their mom. It's like, oh, that person was rude to their mom. It's like, well, the mom actually tried to steal from the kid. There's a lot of that type of stuff that happens. Not every agent is good either. I think that is kind of like a thing like, oh, I'm an agent in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:20:36 And people just automatically assume, oh, this is a good agent. Then you actually start talking to the person. It's like, he's a dumb motherfucker actually. This guy is not a good agent. This person is not a good agent. He has no idea. And they kind of make a bad name for the other agents that are actually good. And there's some rules that are actually in place through the NFLPA to protect bad agents
Starting point is 01:20:50 so that players don't even know that they're with a bad agent on those. So that's an entire game in and of itself. But I am very happy that D-Hop got an agent and is able to navigate this free agency process because he seems like he's the cock of the walk right now. Yeah. Big time. You know what I mean? Like, Dalvin Cook, I don't know how many visits he's taken right now. Yeah. Big time. You know what I mean? Like, Dalvin Cook, I don't know how many visits he's taking right now.
Starting point is 01:21:07 But why did you see your position? But you got sprinter vans, Tim McGraw things happening. You got an entire, like, hey, welcome to Tennessee. And I assume Bill, who doesn't do a lot of these. Never. You think he's going to put him in a fucking Toyota Camry whenever he gets there? I don't think so. There's going to be good recruiting. Is it almost right in there?
Starting point is 01:21:26 I mean, I would imagine it is. Now, I am curious, like, does Bill send a limo? Does he send a, I don't know, not limos. I'm incredibly worried Bill is going to call. Does Bill show up in an Escalade and he's in the driver's seat and he's like, hey, dude, hop in. Bill driving an Escalade is a cool thing to think about. The older ones, though, not the newer ones.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Yeah, the old ones. The old ones are more awesome. I can see him as a Land Rover guy. Really? Old school, kind of cool, but a little quirky. Super cool. With the top off, almost like an F4, I think is what they're called, like the old school Jeep Land Rover thing you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Those are extra cool. Yeah, I mean, I can see that. Can you imagine Bill pulling up in a Safari cap on? Pop in, bitch. I'm going to take you through the that. Can you imagine Bill pulling up and having a safari cap on? Pop in, bitch. Yeah, I'm going to take you through the jungle. That's awesome. That's amazing to think about. Go ahead, AJ. Ian, do we know after his visit in Tennessee, how does it usually go? Do they
Starting point is 01:22:15 make an offer to his agent? Do they talk to him about, hey, what it could look like if we brought you here? What a deal might look like? How does that work? Yeah, I mean, there is some sort of i don't want to say negotiation but at least an idea of like all right here's what he's kind of looking for would you guys be in this ballpark because what nobody wants to do nobody wants to waste anyone's time especially in the middle of june when i think most people would rather be doing what i was doing
Starting point is 01:22:38 today which is on the golf course like you don't want to waste time you want to be up front these are people that you're going to be dealing with agents and sometimes players you know't want to waste time. You want to be upfront. These are people that you're going to be dealing with agents and sometimes players, you know, you want to deal with them straight up. So you would say like, Hey, what we can afford is around this player or around this figure. And if you don't want that, do not visit. But if that's something that could be close, then let's talk. And so if Hopkins is going to take a visit,
Starting point is 01:23:03 he's going to know the team's going to probably be about where he wants to be and again that's why like to go back to your point like i don't know how imminent anything's going to be with hopkins like could something happen thursday yes could something happen right before training camp feels to me more likely but we'll see um he's going to know coming out of there like all right i have a pretty good idea things stand. Guys get out of buildings and not sign deals on a regular basis, it sounds like. So him not getting a deal done in Tennessee and going to New England doesn't mean that Tennessee, although he saw Tim McGraw and had the Sprinter van,
Starting point is 01:23:35 doesn't mean that that is not a thing that could still potentially happen. No, I didn't expect him to get a deal. Because it makes sense. Like, if he's even considering the Patriots, you know, unless they're going to give him $20 million a year, he should take the visits. He should have more information to make an extremely
Starting point is 01:23:51 important decision, not less information. Bill Belichick's not golfing, by the way. I'm serious. Yeah, no chance. Most guys would rather be golfing right now. He's a good golfer. No, he's a fisherman. Yeah, he's out on his boat. He also plays golf. Yeah, he did have that story with Brady when they played golf. He was playing in Pebble Beach.
Starting point is 01:24:06 And he was hitting off that ditch at Pebble Beach. Oh, so maybe Bill was a golfer. Jesus. But that was a long time ago. What if Bill comes strolling in off the golf course for D-Hop and says, you know what, why don't we go on our golf course? One of my favorite Belichick things is, let's say, like, Tom Curran or someone would walk into a press conference and bill would
Starting point is 01:24:25 look at him and note that he was wearing golf spikes and like call him out for like thank you tom for making time in your schedule between golf and this to come show up at the press conference what was the one he did yeah exactly i mean tommy's living his own life yeah i mean he had another 18 to do on the other side he was breaking some record i assume at that case the only time we've ever seen him genuinely pumped is when Boomer came in. Right. Yeah. Right. Chris Berman comes in. Boomer!
Starting point is 01:24:50 He claps for it. What did we do? He graces us with their presence. He's very pumped about that. Bill Belichick. I can't believe you got to work in that whole world. I assume it hardened you as you've gone through your entire career of being one of the NFL's finest insiders. Pac-Man has a question for you.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Justin Jeffrey reported today. Anything on his deal or getting something done with his new deal? Who did? Justin. Jefferson. Nailed it. Shoot did not know who you were talking about. Yeah, he did Justin Jeffrey again.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I thought it was. No, it did. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. I think you did. I thought it was maybe D-tackle. I had not heard of. Can you guys leave Pac-Man alone?
Starting point is 01:25:29 No, no, this is a part of it. Oh, shut up, Rap. Why don't you just answer the question? You know what, Rap? Pac-Man needs you to talk shit, man. Okay. Anyone's got your back. It's this guy.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Hell yeah. Rap and Pac, the Rap Pack. Like Parnak. Let's go. Parnak, congrats on your horse. it's this guy. Wrap and pack. The wrap pack. Like Barnack. Let's go. Barnack, congrats on your horse. Hell yeah, you weren't there for it, but hell of a win for the horse for sure. I watched on YouTube. Oh, congrats. You see what happened to those two other horses?
Starting point is 01:25:56 Whoa, whoa, whoa. What does the name mean? What's Barnack mean? What happened? Is that can't wrap backwards? Which it is. Don't take me. I'll have to write it down to look. We already did the research. You want to go to Columbia, huh?
Starting point is 01:26:10 Yeah. What's the Parnak name? I'm not good at backwards. What's that? What's the Parnak? The anagram. I forget. It's French.
Starting point is 01:26:17 She's French. Okay. Well, speaking of forwards. Oh, wait. Don't hang a salami on the lasagna hogs. Boom. It's about the exact same forward as it is back. So on, this is what I just got from the lasagna hogs. Boom. The exact same forward as his back. So, An, this is what I just got from the Bills on Diggs.
Starting point is 01:26:29 He was here yesterday. He was here this morning. He left prior to the start of practice. Whoa. Okay. Had a reservation. Did he meet with the GM and owner? Didn't they say he met with the GM and coach or whatever?
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah. I mean, I guess if that happened, it was before. Yeah. Interesting. Okay, so let's talk about this then. So the Adam Schefter tweet, go ahead and pull that up right now. Adam Schefter said this, okay? Adam Schefter tweeted that Adiri Bakari.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Adisa. Adisa Bakari, the agent, said that, forget it, he said Stephon Diggs was in the building and had met with the GM and the head coach in the past two days, and he will be there for the entirety of minicamp. What we are now learning via Ian Rappaport is that that meeting happened before the first practice. Then the first practice happens. Afterwards, McDermott is asked about practice. And this is what McDermott says after meeting with Stephon Diggs earlier in the day and then realizing that he had left the building.
Starting point is 01:27:31 This is what McDermott had to say about the Stephon Diggs situation. He basically had to go on and say. Yeah, Steph is not here. Everybody else is here at the current time. How concerned are you about that? Very concerned. Very concerned. I'm not going to get into it.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Listen, I respect that. So he basically says there he's very concerned. So the meetings went terrible? Is that what we're expecting? Like what could have happened there, Ian, you think, just as a human who's been around the NFL for a long time? It does not seem like whatever he wanted went well. But again, I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:28:15 I'll say this also. If you're going to be emotional, June 13th is a good time to do it. I'm not saying he's emotional, but if there was something he didn't like, this is a totally fine time to do it. I'm sure this is all going to be fine. But again, like when Sean McDermott comes out at the press conference and says it is concerning, I trust him that he is concerned. And we know that he met with him before then.
Starting point is 01:28:34 So he's very concerned after hearing him talk and talk to him. I am very concerned. That feels like a pretty big deal. Hey, Bills, let's go. We've got a Super Bowl to go get. Okay, and back to that. We appreciate you for doing that. We know you have to go. Justin Jefferson, no deal. Yeah. Hey, Bills, let's go. We've got a Super Bowl to go get. Oh, Bills. Okay, and back to that. We appreciate you for doing that.
Starting point is 01:28:47 We know you have to go. Justin Jefferson, no deal. Is that going to happen? Okay, so that is, you know, obviously that is something that the Vikings are working on that is hugely important for the Vikings, for Jefferson, for the receiver market, honestly for every young receiver out there.
Starting point is 01:29:04 You're just hoping that he's going to do a great deal. And he is a great player, and I assume he is going to get a great deal. So it's something they're working on. He is not, you know, the fact that he shows up at minicamp, I'm not surprised. He is not a, I didn't expect anything less.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Not a drama-filled dude. I did not expect anything less. So he's-filled dude. I did not expect anything less. So he's there. No issue. I'm sure they will continue to work on it. You know, there's a path to getting this done, and it makes sense for everyone to get it done because, again, he is awesome, and these are the guys that you are dying to pay.
Starting point is 01:29:38 And they also just got rid of Dalvin Cook, you know? Yep. So it seems like with some of the moves they made, they know that they're going to have to pay. They'll have it. Kevin O'Connell and Justin Jefferson have been great together thus far. We assume that it will only continue. Congrats to them getting the deal done.
Starting point is 01:29:50 And Stefan Diggs' watch will continue to happen by Ian Rappaport on the television NFL Network. We can't hear what you're saying. Please get to the bottom of this for us. I'm on it. I mean, theoretically, I'm on it. Go sponking. Yeah, get in there. Get in there. Turn the light on.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Is that the thing with the caves? Yes, kind of. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. It's that guy's deal. Sometimes. He drops effusive. That was a great word. Stefan Diggs' situation seems... Bigger than what we thought.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Yeah, concerning. Because at the beginning of the conversation ian rapport's like he's wanting to make a statement that he's not happy about something now he's made the statement he's very smart he's very effusive he understands what's going on so now it starts the conversation about what he's not happy about it's like turns out what we just learned the conversation that he was not happy about already happened yeah and then he left the building and then sean then Sean McDermott was asked about it later after he was the only one that mispracticed.
Starting point is 01:30:48 And Sean McDermott goes, yeah, I'm very concerned. That's wild scene up in Buffalo. I don't like this. I've heard the Buffalo culture is great. Everybody we talk to loves the locker room, loves being there, loves their coaches, loves everything. I mean, they had a guy that was dead, came back to life, back in there practicing.
Starting point is 01:31:03 That's a feel-good story. Everybody in there celebrating Von Miller was hurt defensive player of the year before multi-time Super Bowl champion he's back in there Poirier he's back in there
Starting point is 01:31:12 Josh Allen back in there more motivated than ever Mitch Boyd we just talked to the fucking center love the guy everybody talks about how awesome the culture is and now all of a sudden you got like one of your best players
Starting point is 01:31:23 and he's seemingly on the odds here what yeah what the hell is going on with stefan diggs in the buffalo bills aj hawk well okay he met with the gm and head coach before minicamp now i would assume every player in the team is not meeting with the head coach and gm before minicamp i don't think that's a normal meeting time for everybody so whatever i wonder what what was the intent of that meeting like why did they have it? And then what happened during the meeting that caused him to say, see ya? What if they told him and they wanted to give him a heads up that, hey, you know, we might sign D-Hop.
Starting point is 01:31:54 How do you feel about it? And he was pissed. I think it's the opposite of that. I think that's what he wants. Because remember, there's that quote. You think Stephon Diggs does? Yeah, because there's that quote during the offseason. I forget who he was talking to.
Starting point is 01:32:07 It wasn't the shop, but it was some show, and he was basically saying, like, I don't know what more we can do. Like, we've made it this far multiple times. We had a great season, you know, in the regular season. I don't know what more work we can put in, and then you look at what they did on offense. Like, yeah, they drafted Dalton Kincaid in the first round, but he's a rookie. I think one of the
Starting point is 01:32:27 only other positions they added to was the running back because Damian Harris is there and then they lost Isaiah McKenzie. Him and Gabe Davis are both great, but then look at Cincinnati. Look at KC. Look at the Jets now. The Jets have added so many guys and Buffalo
Starting point is 01:32:44 kind of hasn't done what maybe he wanted them to do. I don't know. You think Stephon's worried about never being able to win? Yeah, you need three. So you think that's what Stephon Diggs is saying to him? What if Stephon Diggs told McDermott, I don't think you guys can ever win here? And then McDermott's like, yeah, I'm very concerned.
Starting point is 01:32:59 That guy just took a shot across our bob. Yeah, pretty much. Took a shot at all of us. So we aren't necessarily thrilled with how this is all going but i i do like will we ever learn well there's no way to know but is it possible that it's not football related like it could be like a mental health thing like he's kind of got that cryptic uh instagram post about like trying to express his feelings like is it possible that he went in here and was just kind of like, hey, my heart's just not in it right now? I don't know. Pac, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:33:27 I don't know. The pitchers, like you said, one foot in, one foot out on the outfit. Yeah, yeah. Articulate his feelings. That's all we can take from him. That's all we can take. Obviously, he's not happy. I could say
Starting point is 01:33:42 he wants somebody else to help win. I could say that he wants the ball more. There's so many things that we can go nitpick and pick at. But I don't know. It's very interesting. But I will tell you this. You've got to have three dogs to be really going at this thing on offense. Yeah, I'm fascinated by it.
Starting point is 01:34:01 If Stephon Diggs wanted less balls, more weapons, Yeah, I'm fascinated by it. If Stephon Diggs wanted less balls, more weapons, that would be like the most backwards wide receivers pissed off at team thing in the history. That don't make sense. You know? And that's not really his MO because that was his whole thing when, you know, he was having the outbursts or whatever on the sideline during the playoff game
Starting point is 01:34:19 was like, throw me the fucking ball. Like, give me the ball. I can help us win. AJ, what is it? Why don't you tell us? I wish I knew. I mean, honestly, could it be, has their offense drastically changed this offseason
Starting point is 01:34:31 to where he doesn't like the direction it's going? Same corner, Ken Dorsey. That's what I'm saying. Like, is he worried, like, I'm not the number one option on every play? Like, what could it possibly be? It has to be some kind of, hey, where are we going? We need to all be on board.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Yeah, you're, I don't don't after meeting i'm very concerned he's very concerning yeah yeah and because we've heard him like he yeah he met with the gm and he met with the head coach is that two different meetings at one meeting now i need to now i need to dive into logistics because if it's two meetings he carried that same energy into two different rooms. Right? We have a full conversation. Not going right into the other one. Hey, this is how I fuck you. All right, I'm out of here. So if it's one meeting where he meets with both of them, and then they kind of have a convo,
Starting point is 01:35:13 and that goes in a way in which he didn't expect, or he didn't like, or he didn't appreciate, so he decides to leave to let them know that he's being serious. And then all of a sudden, though, you would think that McDermott would just say what most coaches say. He's like, ah, we're working through some stuff.'ll all get figured out we're good yeah but instead his initial reaction and maybe they had a bad practice to remember he's calling plays for the defense yeah so he might be a little bit pissed about how practice went whenever he gets onto that microphone and they're like hey we saw stefan digs on here yeah i'm very concerned
Starting point is 01:35:41 i'm not talking about it if you want to talk about practice where our defense got fucking cooked i will certainly talk about that. There's so many little things that it could be. And all of them are telling a different story at this stage. Because if Stephon Diggs is walking into two different meetings, and both of them are like, not good. And they didn't resolve it throughout those meetings. And he takes off and he leaves knowing that he could be fined.
Starting point is 01:36:07 That's what's concerning. Yeah, let's call Sal Capaccio. Let's see if he answers this. That's why I like the fewer balls. Obviously, as a competitor, he wants more. But, like, why would you say that to your defensive head coach and the GM? Like, wouldn't that be a Josh Allen and Dorsey conversation? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:36:22 And then what if he did talk to Dorsey and Dorsey said, I don't want to fucking. Yeah, then that would make sense. That's what happened down in Miami. And the way that McDermott said that, that's why I thought, like, okay, maybe he's worried about the person and not the football player. Me too. That was my initial thought.
Starting point is 01:36:41 I thought if it would have been something mental or something like that, I think he would have said something different, more than, like, I'm concerned that he's not here. Yeah, because remember, McDermott has shown to be a very empathetic coach. For sure. Right? Very empathetic coach. With the whole DeMar Hamlin situation.
Starting point is 01:36:56 So I guess when he says he's very concerned, he could be talking about him as a player, as a human, I mean. Right. But then I think he would have softened it right well don't you think he would have followed up with like uh very worried about stefan and everything he's got going on but just him not saying we're going to work through it and get there is a weird thing in the age pretty fresh pretty fresh on his mind if they had just gotten out of the meetings that day or yesterday he's probably trying to process it too like what's
Starting point is 01:37:22 going to happen what's he going to do when once again right after practice and he is calling plays and he is a competitive human i mean you know like i guess we kind of got to judge the this is wild that we're talking about the buffalo this way vacation's like three days away too you know like everyone's ready to pack their bags get out of there take a little break too so he's probably thinking man i got a lot on the other side here man like this i thought it was going to be a nice drama filled Fourth of July and have a good time and come back and let's hit it. Yeah, you're hearing in that parking lot on that last day, if it's sports cars, two wheels.
Starting point is 01:37:54 It's already. And then if it's SUVs, four wheels squealing out of that parking lot. You're like, oh, that must be the players. It's like, no, no, that's the coaches. That's coaches. That's the front office. And that's the players. I mean, that is everybody getting the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:38:07 And now Bean and McDermott, what are we? So we got a deal. This whole thing. Damn it. We couldn't get that guy a better shin guard? His agent did say he's going to be there for the rest of camp. That's why, if it is mental, the agent's kind of burying him. No, his agent said he'd be there for the entirety of camp.
Starting point is 01:38:28 He already missed the first day. He's in Buffalo. His plane isn't getting back until after this thing's over. Maybe he was just saying, like, oh, yeah, he'll be in the city of Buffalo while they're at camp. He's not going anywhere. He's not going to fucking show up. He's hosting an event.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Okay? 2 o'clock Eastern. Please. Can we get him there? Sakapache is calling us back. He's at training event. Okay, 2 o'clock Eastern. Please, can we get him there? Sal Capaccio is calling us back. He's at training camp right now. I assume there's a lot of this going around on the side by the media people. Did you hear the newest reporters they met before practice yesterday?
Starting point is 01:38:54 Then he got pissed and very concerned. Yeah, a lot happened. I mean, not a lot for us to talk about. Josh Allen threw the ball 85 yards away. Kayvon Miller seems to be all the way back. Good for him. There's a guy not here, and he's not happy. He's an important guy.
Starting point is 01:39:05 He just got paid. Josh Allen, great practice today. Hey, where's Stephon? That's every. Oh, yeah. That's the entire thing right now, AJ. That's what sucks for the players. Obviously, the coach, he's very concerned because you're right.
Starting point is 01:39:19 We talked to a lot of Bills players, the coach, GM, everybody. They have a great thing going. The culture is awesome. And right now, this little blip in the radar, whatever's going on They have a great thing going. The culture is awesome. And right now, this little blip in the radar, whatever's going on with Stephon, they don't want it to continue. I think they want to figure this out quick and not let it drag on through the summer. Josh, why don't you have
Starting point is 01:39:34 a little get-together at the house tonight? There you go. Okay, Josh. Vaughn. Come on. Bring Vaughn. Get Stephon in there. This is for Stephon, though. Let's do some high-fashion shit. Yeah, new girlfriend and some of her friends, maybe.ley and a couple you know couple of her bills were tired bills were tired of this they were they were ready for a new season too because they dealt with a lot of stuff last season a lot the most probably in the history yeah if you talk about
Starting point is 01:39:59 just the grand scheme of off-field stuff they had to deal with while trying to accomplish a goal that 31 other professional operations are trying to accomplish as well they had to deal with while trying to accomplish a goal that 31 other professional operations are trying to accomplish as well. They had to deal with a lot. This is a whole other added ballgame. When Sal calls us back, we'll continue to chat about it because he'll have more information. Speaking of more information, I learned some stuff
Starting point is 01:40:15 about a particular play that could have changed my entire life. Oh, no. The Indianapolis Colts were playing the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh, 2014. 13. 14. 13. 14. 14. 2014.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Indianapolis Colts. Pittsburgh Steelers. Primetime. Lights are on. Heinz Field. One punt passing kick at that field as a kid. I was announced champion there as a 15-year-old punt passing kick. Everybody sees the Andy Reid video and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:40:43 I go out on field, hawk ball real far, okay? Real far. Hell yeah. Get a nice cheer from the inders that stuck around during halftime, then go grab beer. So not necessarily our people now, but certainly a group of people didn't grab beer at halftime of the game, and they cheered loudly.
Starting point is 01:40:58 I dunk on upright as I'm going off there. First Steelers game I could go to. Ticket's tough to get to. Had a blast. Dad was there. Dad loved the Steelers. It was a good thing. I Steelers game I could go to. Ticket's tough to get to. Had a blast. Dad was there. Dad loved the Steelers. It was a good thing. I was returning as a professional football player
Starting point is 01:41:09 against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Family, friends, whole city there. You know what I mean? Primetime game. Steelers are going to show up. We had a fake field goal. I was supposed to score a touchdown. I was supposed to walk right the fuck in.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Right in. Hey, we're going to practice this thing. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. And when we're practicing, there's no blacking out of this play. We're not saying no, we're not doing this play anymore. This is 100% Pat's walking in, okay? So when he gets in there first touchdown, let's all make sure
Starting point is 01:41:38 we have a good time here. Let's let these people know that we're here to have a good time as well as a score time. And Troy Polamaro fucking ruined it. Troy Palomaro did something he ain't never done in the history of his entire fucking career. He lined up on the short side of the field, which is poor technique. Should not be doing that. There's a lot less room over here.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Why would you have an overload towards that side, especially with how much space and opportunity is on this side? Troy Palomaro, high football IQ, should never and has never been to the short side. The only thing that can fuck this up, I guess, is if that head and shoulders model snoops it out and goes right to the place you were supposed to walk in, where we had a double team, a pull, and a push, and literally waltz in the end zone in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:42:18 How you doing? How many points you got? Six of them things. Thank you. Troy Palamalu has finally given a reason why he ruined my life. God. I got Palamalu'd, and Palamalu explained why and how I got Palamalu'd on the All Things Covered podcast with BMAC and Patrick Peterson.
Starting point is 01:42:36 This is what they call baby Jesus had to say about the play that I'll remember for never happening. One famous internet-type story, Troy, I want to share with you. We talk about being able to be put in positions to see things before they actually happen. Pat McAfee detailed his first opportunity to score a touchdown, a career touchdown on a fake field goal, right? And he said everything was a goal. He was excited.
Starting point is 01:43:03 First opportunity to score a fake field goal, touchdown. Troy lines up in the C-gap, which he never does on a field goal. He sees Troy line up on the C-gap, gotta call a fake off. Pat's pissed because he don't get an opportunity to score. He said he still hate you to this day because of that.
Starting point is 01:43:20 What did you see, Troy, for you to be able to snuff out a fake field goal to line up in a position where you never line up in and forcing them to attempt the field goal? Baby Jesus. Well, you know what? I saw him too excited on the sidelines.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Oh, you saw him on the sideline before he came in? Hey, that is a veteran move. I tell guys all the time, bro, keep your eyes on the score. Patrick. I love that you just said that. He was joking. Patrick. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:43:51 You know, the funny thing about it is we actually had a bad tendency if I was blocking to the field. I'd say. 100% field goal block tendency was if we don't field goal block, they're on the hash, we're always going to run into the field. And they ended up being on a hash that was on a, you know, pretty much guaranteed make field goal block they're on the hash we're always going to run into the field and they ended up being on a hash that was on a you know pretty much guaranteed uh a make field goal yeah and uh you know our special teams coach at the time was like hey man we just need to change up our tendency just once and i just remember us having that conversation before we went out there was
Starting point is 01:44:19 like all right maybe this is the time to change it wow Wow. That actually, you know, I wish I would have played some lottery numbers with that guess, but. No question. Wow. Wow. Great time to change it up. Hey, the legend of Troy continues to grow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Even being retired. Yeah, I'd say. I'd say. Why don't we break our tendency one time out of fucking a thousand of you? A thousand of them. And that special teams coordinator, Danny Smith, okay? Fellow Yinzer. This little chew gum and son of a bitch, this guy.
Starting point is 01:44:53 He will have an entire pack of gum in his mouth on a sideline. And he will chew through it. He's been coaching in the NFL for a long time. Yinzer done good, okay? He's been around the NFL. He's back with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Back home. Guy you'd love to hang out with.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Guy you'd love to have a beer with. Got a chance to do it with him a couple different times at the Combine. It is electrifying. Now, they put a microphone in front of his face once a year, and he gives an answer. That is electrifying. Today, he actually said, I'm supposed to say no, and I'll leave it at that.
Starting point is 01:45:20 But also, kind of bullshit what's going on. I mean, he is through and through just a genuine classic soul. So now that I know it was his fault, because he just dropped into Troy Paul Mala's little head, hey, remember, we got a little bit of a problem, you know? Chewing his fucking gum. We're always doing that. Somebody might see it.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Not this team, obviously, but we're just saying, we need to change it for the future. And Troy just, oh, yeah, he did say that let me just go over here and it ruins my life not fair fuck danny smith hear me fuck him we don't say a single good thing about that guy ever again never got it can't have it okay he's a legend he's great at what he does he's funny he's charming he's a guy you'd love to drink a beer with he is an asshole right alongside paloma lou who just oh might as well go over here to the short side of the field so now we have an answer okay and i do like the fact that some people read the sideline and they try to get
Starting point is 01:46:15 there and i've been living with that last couple years because i said that to another youtuber he said his aura coming on the field seemed to be a little bit too chipper. And I'm like, I ruined it. I'm the one. I'm the one that did it. I actually did this. And I'm like thinking to myself, yeah, I would do that. I mean, I certainly would do, you know, play cards. I tell people my hand.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Hey, I got a really good one right now. And they either choose to believe it or they don't. Troy Paul Mall is like, oh, this guy is so pumped to come out there. He said that a few years back, I've had to wear that. That's right. The reason why I can't talk shit in Pittsburgh about scoring a touchdown in Pittsburgh against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team that some of my friends would fucking die for is because of my own
Starting point is 01:46:55 fault. Now we get the final answer. I'm appreciative of the all things covered podcast. And I'm also appreciative of Troy Paul Mall being an incredible football player. Yeah. Just so high level at all things football. It is kind of mind-freaking as if it's Chris Angel
Starting point is 01:47:10 taking people's legs off to do it. I'm not the only person he did it to. I just so happen to be a six-yard waltz touchdown. I couldn't even fathom what quarterbacks had to do to prepare for that guy because it's impossible because he just thinks of everything, remembers everything. Oh, let's just break a tendency here. Let's ruin this person's life. was on the long list i feel honored as
Starting point is 01:47:28 opposed to hating him danny smith though replace him right into that thing aj that's what i'm thinking well when i was listening to troy speak there i and you say wednesday thursday friday you worked on it is it possible you guys had a snitch there on the squad? Someone sent a little text or a little phone call over to somebody in Pitt. Wow. Certainly a possibility of that, isn't there? You didn't call one of your boys and tell them, did you? Yeah, the enemy sits in one of your camps.
Starting point is 01:47:55 I would never tell them. Ever. Because we would tell. Bingo. Here's my question, because you said it was going to be a walk-in. Did you ever, for one half of a second, think, I can take Troy one-on-one? Not a single time. Spin move? Not a single time.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Saw him get over there. I'm not the guy that should be trying to beat Troy Paul. Yeah, I am. Because it was a high-scoring game. It was like 35-17, I think, at the point. You're like, yeah. Yeah, you kick that field goal, you get down two scores. I mean, there was a little bit of a quick thought in there,
Starting point is 01:48:22 as if I am a fourth-down quarterback. Took snaps on fourth down numerous times. Threw a ball as well. So there was that type of thought. But also, there, as if I am a fourth down quarterback. Took snaps on fourth down numerous times. Threw a ball as well. So there was that type of thought. But also, like, yeah, I grew up in Pittsburgh. So I've seen the Palomalu. Okay? I get it.
Starting point is 01:48:33 I know what he has done. Yeah, and there's a full freakout, obviously. What did you say to the sideline just then? Like, no, motherfucker, he's over here. Chuck came over and was like, we're doing this. And I'm like, we are not. You don't think I want to? So then if that video continues in the TV role,
Starting point is 01:48:48 we start jogging up that tunnel, that fob, to get to our locker room. And Chuck comes running up next to me. And the camera actually catches us talking. And it's like, I'm telling him, yeah, dude. So every film that you guys showed me, and that we saw, like, Troy wasn't standing on the other side, right? So, like, there it is.
Starting point is 01:49:07 What happened? What the fuck happened? What are you doing? Tom McMahon, what the fuck? I thought you were scoring a touchdown. They all thought I was, like, a baby back bitch right there. They thought I was scared. Like, that's what they, which I guess I kind of was.
Starting point is 01:49:18 But they were like, you were too big at the moment, too big. Like, what are you having? I'm like, go look at the fucking pictures. Find out differently. Go look at the goddamn pictures. A, find out differently. Go look at the goddamn pictures. A little different game out here, okay? Jeez Louise. And then I go into that locker room, I hold my hand.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Yeah. I hold my hand. Bombed. Heartbroken. I was supposed to have a goddamn moment. Yeah, at home. What happened, Ben? Troy!
Starting point is 01:49:40 Pull on the loop! It's bull. We're not mad at Troy anymore. No. Danny Smith. He's the guy. Fuck him. You're not mad at Troy anymore. No. Danny Smith. He's the guy. Fuck him. You got angles over there, man.
Starting point is 01:49:48 You got an angle. Yeah, sure. I can get the pile on, dude. No, I'm supposed to go right up. He would have... Dude, he would have just... Yeah, they would have kicked him out, right? He would have so quickly just...
Starting point is 01:49:58 And then probably... He gets through, right? Rip the ball off of my hand. Out of my hands, probably. You know, and just kind of do it. Yeah, the protection too. I mean, they're coming off the short side, which I guess you're used to, and you call out or whatever what the heavy is.
Starting point is 01:50:11 But, like, this is – What if you – could you check it to the strong side? I mean, geez, look at the field. Yeah, could you imagine? I guess we would have had to then change. Just got to hook that end, get that end hooked, and somehow get somebody up to the backer. I don't know who the wings are, though.
Starting point is 01:50:22 The wings might be, like, a tight end who's never pulled. So, like, every once in a while, you only got a few guys on the field that have blocked people before. Like, actually moving people. So, like, that's one thing if you're, like, looking at special teams and somebody's going to run a fake. Like, if normally the right tackle is on the left side, oh, there's probably something popping off.
Starting point is 01:50:42 And that tackle's probably one of the only people that actually can move and block or has pulled. We ran a fake the opposite direction against the front that we weren't supposed to run it at a time we weren't supposed to either. And the guy that was supposed to pull had never pulled before because we had to check it to the opposite way. And it was almost understood that the guy couldn't pull. What happens if it happens? Now we need it. And he got tripped.
Starting point is 01:51:03 I mean, he just, I actually, I ended up jumping it, like, you know what I mean? So there's a full anyways, Troy, you're a good football player. Way to go, Troy. We get it. Let's get to a break. This show would be much cooler if it was hosted by a guy that had Dutch down there. Might do good. You could still just
Starting point is 01:51:19 say, like, yeah, I was thinking about giving him a shoulder to chew on, but in that situation, I just, you know. Who am I to show up? Andrew Luck in the offense? say like yeah i was thinking about giving him a shoulder to chew on but in that situation i just you know who am i to show up yeah andrew luck in the offense yeah you kidding me we're down 18 at that point you need me to come out there yeah you don't want to ruin am i playing running back the rest of the game i guess i start doing drone bettis too friends wouldn't be your friends anymore because troy's their favorite player he made them look dumb. Dude, Troy, he was such a legend in Pittsburgh for so long, just being a psychopath out there.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Like, oh, who's the psycho? It's Paul Malou, dude. He was so good at football. Played without a seatbelt. I mean, him at UF. Every play. Every play. Every play, he's praying, and then he's going 400 miles an hour.
Starting point is 01:52:01 And then he's picking himself back up. All right, here we go, God. Do it again. Get another one. And then he's picking himself back up. All right, here we go, God. Do it again. Get another one. And then he's just figuring it out. What a machine. Thank you, Troy. Thank you, Troy.
Starting point is 01:52:13 What you did for football. Not what you did to me, asshole. No, sorry. I don't think that about you anymore. I think that about Danny Smith. All right, let's get to a break. We'll have Richard Jefferson join us in this hour. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Sal, when? Let's do it now. Let's do, when? Let's do it now. Let's do it now. Let's do it now. There we go, Sally. This will be good going into the break. We'll be able to chew on it a little bit. I like to chew on it.
Starting point is 01:52:35 What? I like to chew on it. It's okay. Do whatever you got to do. Just own it, Diggs. Just own it. Yeah, absolutely. That's what we were saying this whole time.
Starting point is 01:52:42 I like to chew on it. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is... Me too, Diggs. Me too. Joining us now is Paisano, who has covered the Buffalo Beals since he was in high school. That's right. He is the Buffalo Beal. If you were to think about Bill's mafia, who would you want to represent in him?
Starting point is 01:53:02 It is this magical man. He's on the radio and on the sideline. They believe he's a writer as well and on the news. Ladies and gentlemen, Sal Capaccio. Paisano, thank you for making time. I know you're in the middle of work. Let's dive right into it. Stephon Diggs came to the building, met with the GM, met with the head coach,
Starting point is 01:53:19 leaves the building. They have a practice. Coach McDermott in press conference after practice says, I'm very concerned about the situation with Stephon Diggs. That came after a meeting with Stephon. What happened in those meetings? And where are we right now up there in Buffalo? This is the Bills. The culture's good.
Starting point is 01:53:36 We're on Super Bowl run. Now we've got a bunch of drama seemingly, Sal. Yeah, some drama they don't need here, right? Drama this organization, this team doesn't need. There was a lot that happened last year, at the end of last year, off the field, on the field, from weather-related issues to DeMar Hamlin, of course. This team went through a lot, and this is something that they've tried to avoid as many distractions as possible, but this is one big distraction happening right now
Starting point is 01:53:59 at One Bills Drive. I'm inside the field house right now, guys. I moved in here. I was out at practice a little while ago. They're repping up. We're going to hear from Josh Allen shortly, and we'll find out maybe some more clarity on this. When was the last time he talked with Stefan Diggs?
Starting point is 01:54:09 I can confirm to you. I know this. Stefan Diggs is here in Buffalo. He was here last night. He was in town yesterday for physicals or whatever they do before mandatory minicamp. And I can also confirm to you, he showed up here today. He was here today, and then he left before practice. That was obviously before Sean McDermott spoke to us
Starting point is 01:54:28 and then said, I'm very concerned. We don't know what's going on. This is a player who has a very large contract. There's no contractual issue here. I've never really seen anything like this. It's kind of bizarre. I will tell you, though, as you've probably seen, there's been some reporting from adam
Starting point is 01:54:45 schaefter and others that his agent adisa bakari has said that he will be here for the entirety of minicamp well that's today and he's not here so i guess that means tomorrow so what's the atmosphere like at practice does it feel kind of weird but because of this dig situation i mean it does from a media standpoint i think of like what's going on we're all a little confused like how do you go from you know we expect everyone here everything seems to be good to not being here one of the top players not only on this team but in the league I think from a player standpoint it's not you know I'm sure you know Pat and others here on the show can attest to you know you're out there to do your job and it's mandatory minicamp and you can't worry about those other things.
Starting point is 01:55:26 You've got to do what's best for you to make sure you're ready for the season and when you're called upon, do your job. And, you know, there's a sense also of there's some guys getting reps who wouldn't normally get reps because Stefan isn't here because we know when he is, he's going to be the number one receiver on this team. So I wouldn't say it feels any different on the field when I watch it, but it certainly kind of feels different just around the field when the media is talking a little bit and trying to figure out what's going on. Yeah, and now, just like you said, Josh Allen's talking to the media. Every player is going to have to answer questions, and it feels like the only thing we know, and they probably know more if he's been in the building now a couple days
Starting point is 01:55:57 but hasn't shown up to practice, and although McDermott's very concerned, I will be excited to hear how the teammates feel about the whole situation because seemingly that locker room is a very tight one. The only thing we've really heard from Stephon Diggs outside, and you can tell us if we're wrong, is he posted on Instagram that he's trying to articulate his feelings in the only way he knows how to get what he's going through. Yeah, what way is that? We don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Well, we can start to touch the tea leaves a little bit. There was one photo where he had the jacket, where he was obviously halfway in it, halfway out of it. And then there was a photo where he had shin guards on, you know. And we didn't know if that was him feeling as if he's taking it on the shins. You know, is he taking it on the shins? Has there been like, has he gotten blamed for stuff? Is there anything we haven't heard of out of the the stefan digs why he in the bills or
Starting point is 01:56:45 bills mafia and stuff why would there ever be anything you think to lead to this moment if it's not contractually it's a good question i have not seen these until you guys have been posting here i'm looking them now as i do this with you um because i've been out at practice um working you know stefan's stefan's a different kind of guy right i mean um he is super ultra competitive i will tell you this make no mistake this wants to win. He wants to win in a very, very bad way. That's something you can never deny from Stefan Diggs. He wears his emotions on his sleeve. He goes about it a different way. I think that's the genesis of what happened on the field in Cincinnati last year, being demonstrative on the sidelines, the video capturing it all. He left pretty abruptly after
Starting point is 01:57:24 the Cincinnati game. He's a captain. That rubbed a lot of people wrong like here's a captain a team leader after they lose their final game of the season the game they didn't play very well and he left um so he's always kind of marched to his own drum so to speak this seems like one of those situations where he's doing that again um but I think he's also a guy that's so wrapped up in winning so emotional that he probably needs some time in his own way but it's time to come to work it's mandatory minicamp, contractually obligated and this is what
Starting point is 01:57:52 makes Sean McDermott quote very concerned to me which is it's time to come to work, it's time to be here with your teammates and hopefully that happens tomorrow he didn't post those photos today, those were from a few days ago but I'll be excited to hear what the teammates have to think. It sucks that this is what the teammates are going to have to talk about.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Same with the coaches and the personnel. We appreciate you, Sal, covering it all. We can't wait to hear what you say next, pal. Thank you, guys. I appreciate you giving me a call. Sorry I couldn't get on the trigger right away being out there. We've got a lot of rules here at practice. I'll take a FaceTime call. Do not apologize to us ever.
Starting point is 01:58:23 We cold called you. We actually said we want to cold call Sal. Let's get Sal out. Let's cold call Sal out. We appreciate you answering and making time for us. Ladies and gentlemen, Sal Capoccio. Yeah. Sports are happening as is fashion. If I can put that on my resume, I am doing the same things that high fashion people are doing.
Starting point is 01:58:46 I'm protecting my shins and I'm looking fucking good. Now, I'm doing this obviously because the only thing we've really heard from Stefan Diggs is him articulating his feelings on his Instagram. In one of his photos,
Starting point is 01:58:59 he was wearing a shin guard. In the shin guard, could that potentially articulate the fact that he's tired of taking it on the shins? I'd like to be my left leg with the Alexander McQueen shoe, not my right leg with the fucking pad on it because everybody's been attacking me. I'm sorry I
Starting point is 01:59:11 left the game late. After we lost Cincinnati in the playoffs, I'm a captain. I had to get out of there. I was pissed off. I might have wanted to live in Paris. You know why? Because I got mad respect for the fashion. See the goddamn shin guards I got on right now? Hell yeah. So what's going on in Buffalo? We don't know. We will have an update, I believe, from Josh Allen, who has to speak to the media here in about 10 to 15 minutes.
Starting point is 01:59:28 We learned that from Sal Capaccio. To my left, your right, non-fashion-having motherfucker, AJ Hawk. The talk table's here. At Boston Corner and at Tosh. One half of the hammer. Cowboys turn. Diggs is here.
Starting point is 01:59:39 And 14-year NFL vet, Pac-Man Jones. Pac-Man, what do you think is happening with Stephon Diggs and the Buffalo Beals? He tired of taking it on the shin, bro. All right. The rest of the show. They're moving. I'm stopping so many balls right now, but also
Starting point is 01:59:58 everybody's seeing you walk down the fucking catwalk. Remember Kanye was fucking, he was wearing these two weeks ago. It's the fall digs. It's articulating feelings. These things are talking. These things are doing. This is my new fucking thing. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:00:13 Especially with all the sellout stuff. I was just whacking. You can only wear one, though. It's just one for fashion. You can't wear both. I'm not into fashion. Kanye did. You're right. You can do wear both. I thought it was a fashion. Yeah, Kanye did. Kanye had two. Correct. You're right.
Starting point is 02:00:26 You can do it everywhere. And shoulder pads. And also, how will everybody know, especially because I like to do this so much? If I do that, then people will only think it's on my right leg. You're right. But then a couple hours later, you've got to get the other. Boom! And then they know it's on this one.
Starting point is 02:00:39 Doubled up. You know what I mean, AJ? That's how you turned around a 360 to get your left leg back. Well, that was to articulate that time was passing. You're right. You know what I mean? Because I wouldn't do a 360 to get your left leg back. Well, that was to articulate that time was passing. You know what I mean? Because I wouldn't do that back-to-back. I'm not a fucking asshole. Different timing. This show sucks.
Starting point is 02:00:54 This is a big deal going on, though. Huge deal. You tied it. Winded. I did a Stairmaster this morning. That was a foot fire right there. You got to keep gyrating, man. Look at the show. Enjoy the show. Involuntary spasms. Yeah, that was a foot fire right there. You got to keep gyrating, man. What do you mean? You got them on. Look at the show. Enjoy the show.
Starting point is 02:01:06 Involuntary spasms. Yeah, that was happening. I'm very winded. But, you know, there's other stories to talk about. And as Josh Allen speaks about the high-fashion shin guards, we will report. Stephon Diggs is a great player. He is. Very good.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Be who you can afford to be plays in this particular role. He does. He could be a Buffalo Beal by the time the season starts, and we would not be surprised because of how good he is. But it seems like a lot is going to have to get figured out. We will hear from Josh Allen, hopefully, in the coming moments. And that contract must be terrible, too, if Sal Capaccio
Starting point is 02:01:34 and Ravsci are saying it is impossible. Yeah, what does that mean? It's Stephon Diggs. Is the dead cap so big that they'd be way under the salary? $24 million. Yeah, but if a team wants a weapon and Stephon Diggs, it's like Miami was like, hey, give us Tyree Kill. We'll pay him however much money we got to pay him.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Saying something is virtually impossible these days doesn't seem realistic. Well, and 24 is the cap, and I wonder if the dead cap is higher because of the fact that so early on in this. $45 million. Oh, shit. Not going to happen. Can't trade him. No.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Does he know that? Yes, he knows that. He's pretty smart. So what's he thinking? He's thinking, you guys need me to hang my shin guards in this city. Yep. Because if I don't, you're paying $45 million for those shin guards. Boom.
Starting point is 02:02:17 All right. Josh Allen will say something, right? Yeah. I'd hope so. Unless that word. I'm sure he'll clear it up. Why don't you call it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:24 Josh Allen said, listen, we're having a gathering tonight. Haley's going to be there. Who is this human you guys keep saying? You said this about earlier. Josh Allen's new girlfriend. What's her name? Haley Steinfeld. That's that famous lady. Who was a part of... Pitch Perfect. Whose father?
Starting point is 02:02:40 Jerry? Steinfeld. Steinfeld. She's a singer. Steinfeld. She's a T. Singer slash actress. She got nominated for an Academy Award when she was like 12 years old. What?
Starting point is 02:02:54 True Grit. She was just walking the walk for Spider-Man. What? She's about to be a big, big star. Hey, I'd say she's dating Josh Allen, seemingly. But also, I did not know this person's existence whenever you said it. Haley is the name.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Yes. Haley, Haley. Because you said it earlier, and I was like, okay, something's happening. I don't know what this is. Yeah, I forgot her name for a second, to be honest. Me as well. I'm not somebody that would know her name, though,
Starting point is 02:03:22 so she should take no offense to that. Very happy for her. And them. Both of them. They're happy. Actually, AJ probably knows her because she was in a scene with the entire Packers offensive line in Pitch Perfect. Really?
Starting point is 02:03:35 AJ, did you hang out? Nice. No, I was not there. I was not in that movie. She was in Pitch Perfect? Yeah. Yeah, I think that was number two. She was in number three, but, you know.
Starting point is 02:03:43 What movie were you in? AJ was in a movie? No, I was not. He's a Packer offensive lineman. I thought they brought you on set. Yeah, a bunch of Packers were in Pitch Perfect, too. Clay Matthews. Bakhtiari.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Bakhtiari. Chitton. Donnie Barclay. That guy went to West Virginia? I knew it. I'll have to tell you off mic sometimes some stories about old Donnie Barclay on set. He was in Pitch Perfect. Okay. Donnie's the man. Okay.
Starting point is 02:04:06 Donnie's the man. Nothing bad. I think we get it. Nothing bad. No, no, no. He didn't do anything bad, but just Donnie's attitude and his delivery and what he says got the boys going a little bit. Yeah, Donnie's an absolute legend.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Who is the model next to him? That was an offensive lineman? Where? TJ Lang? No. Oh, that's Jordan Rodgers. Holy shit! So Jordan was in it?
Starting point is 02:04:29 He's an offensive lineman for the Packers? That's an interesting pick. Clay was, yeah. Clay had a line in it, too, I believe. I think they kind of sang in it, didn't they? Yeah, I think so. Clay flexed. I think he had a cut-off tuxedo on, and he flexed his guns.
Starting point is 02:04:44 Rick Vaughn. That's whenever he was pushing that protein milk, right? Yeah, I think so. Will you remember that, AJ? And she's right there. Bustle milk? Oh yeah, which one is she? Burnett on the right. Right underneath Clay. Oh, next to old girl from... Rebel Will.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Alright, well congratulations to you. Hope they're having a blast. Yeah, because Josh's relationship with his number one on rocks. Oh, seemingly a new one here with the superstar thriving. Is that what he's pissed off about? He thinks Stephon's not happy. Oh, he had a crush on Haley before. Is that what you're saying, Tony?
Starting point is 02:05:20 Hey, boys, let's figure it out. Okay, we'll hear more from Josh here soon. Joining us now from the basketball world is not only a champion and an absolute superstar, but a pundit who looks great in a tank top. His traps are trapping, aren't they? Every day. Yes, they are. Ladies and gentlemen, from NBA Today, which is shot live every single day,
Starting point is 02:05:40 we can't thank him enough for joining us on this glorious first day ever with the denver nuggets being world champions as their title richard jefferson buddy did you get yelled at you said you're gonna get yelled at for wearing a tank top is that what happened they tell you you can't do that so what they said well no i i just didn't want to like interfere with the whole you know sexiness that you got going on so i just i figured i'd go hoodie it's a little bit more denver here right now so i'm in denver rainy hoodie weather right now okay so i appreciate you thinking about me whenever you're coming on it's very kind of you
Starting point is 02:06:15 uh this is your second time on the program you've crushed it both times thus far yep let's talk about denver last night speaking of crushing it what a celebration huh did you uh get to witness that all night? Obviously, I believe there was like a potential shooting that happened as well, which is incredibly sad and dampers the entire environment. But aside from that, it seemed like the whole city was out there. First time world champs. What was it like?
Starting point is 02:06:37 It was amazing. I was very fortunate. I was with Josh Kroenke and his family in their suite watching them. It was an emotional scene for them just because, you know, they spend so much time. You know, the Kroenkes, they won the Super Bowl. The Avalanche won last year and then the Denver Nuggets, you know, and even Josh Kroenke, he played basketball at Missouri. So he's a basketball guy from that from that space. And so, no, it was great. It was great. And honestly, Jamal Murray, Mike Malone,
Starting point is 02:07:05 that entire crew, that entire core, when we talk about good people and good dudes and guys doing it the hard way and on that journey, they definitely did it that way. And it was fun. Shout out my guy, Aaron Gordon, Zeke Nagy, University of Arizona guys. They get their picture up in the champion hallway now. So a lot of happiness for a lot of the guys there. Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ. They get their picture up in the champion hallway now. So, you know, a lot of happiness for a lot of the guys there. Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ. Richard, so we expect to see this Denver Nuggets team make a run at the finals for the next, like, eight to ten years.
Starting point is 02:07:32 It seems like it's tough to slow these guys down. God, we're the worst. It is tough to slow them down. But I think the hardest thing now, which a lot of people don't know, and I'll give you guys a little peek, is kind of like the CBA, right? The new CBA is going to allow for a lot more parity it's going to be a lot harder to pay your players and so you know bruce brown he's going to be gone but do they have a a chance where over the next like five six years they can win one two more yes but eventually
Starting point is 02:07:59 you start having to pay multipliers like if you're 50 million in the tax this year and you keep all your guys next year you got to pay 100. That's what's going on in golden state right now. Uh, so they do have the ability when you got your core guys, but that's where the GM, the owner, it becomes a lot more. Can we just keep exchanging pieces? You know, not to go football, but kind of like the Patriots, the Patriots had their guys and then they just kept exchanging pieces, bringing people in, shipping people out when they got too expensive doing it through the draft that's what they're going to have to do yeah bill belichick not a good drafter but i understand what you're saying yeah they're the supporting cast they kind of build around the supporting cast they build around they build
Starting point is 02:08:36 around tom brady and their key guys and then they just figure it out around because they got the two horses in my opinion that can leave them for a long time agreed concur it sounds like that's going to happen in basketball and obviously we don't mind that whole cba conversation there because we deal with that a lot here in the nfl with salary cap and everything so they're going to punish teams for keeping their guys on the roster so what so i don't understand as you're explaining that i was thinking to myself like so teams are not being encouraged to keep their players because they want movement what is what is the what what uh well i i think they're trying to have a little bit more parody they're trying to have a little bit more parody and they're trying
Starting point is 02:09:14 to make teams that are trying to load up and i don't want to quote unquote say buy a championship but they definitely want teams to be able it's like there's the same reason why that goes green bay that goes completely against what we all believe about the NBA. We always assume about the NBA outside looking in, they're like, if LeBron's with a couple superstars on one team and then there's another team that has a couple superstars, that's perfect for us. Prime time.
Starting point is 02:09:37 Boom, boom, boom. We just kind of got all our stars in one game. It's an all-star game every single night pretty much. If there's a couple other teams doing that, that's good for the NBA. Sounds like that's not how the NBA is. No, actually actually we like this denver nuggets story we like all teams being good i didn't know that that's a surprise if you look well it's it's more of like you know there was that spike where golden state was able to bring in kevin durant and then all of a sudden the parody is completely gone because they're so
Starting point is 02:10:01 talented and it's happened over the course of sports what they're trying to do and again i'm not a cba expert but What they're trying to do, and again, I'm not a CBA expert, but what they're trying to do is that if there's a multiplier tax, if you're in that tax one, two years, fine. But if you're just trying to pay everyone and keep doing that, again, Aaron Gordon, Jokic is going to make $60 million. Then there's certain guys that they're going to bring back. And then all of a sudden you start looking at that tax bill of $100 million. And I think it's going to be a lot harder, especially for small market teams. I think Golden State's tax bill is supposed to be $500 million. Let's take their tax bill. Their tax bill.
Starting point is 02:10:34 You're in Cronkitee Suite last night. Where did that go? Sounds like they know about it. Who gets that $500, Richard? It goes into a pot. It goes into a pot. And it gets spread out for all the teams that are underneath the cap so you have to look at it not only are you not getting a piece of that 30 40 50 million
Starting point is 02:10:50 you're not getting that then you're also paying into it so it's like it's a it's a fun not fun place to be well except for you know bazillionaires paying more money to play i mean they gotta do what they gotta do i'm excited to see how denver is able to keep it back or continue to build around this guy who didn't even know he won a championship seemingly from the outside looking in yeah just having the time of his life just not doing anything i need to get back to horse what are we doing parade i don't like this whole thing oh the most humble human of all time it feels like no he no he but i saw your clip where you're just like he was like wait i can't go home tomorrow. I have to parade Thursday. I go home Friday.
Starting point is 02:11:27 Okay. Yeah, that's him. And it's a beautiful thing about him. And it's like, look, you have to appreciate that about him. I don't want to say he's the only superstar like that. Tim Duncan was very, very similar. There's other superstars that kind of stay away from the limelight. And then there's other superstars that just look for the limelight. So you enjoy Jokic because we're not going to see him in it on any
Starting point is 02:11:48 commercials. He's not going to, they're going to, they're going to have to come find them in Serbia. That's just him. And I think that that's beautiful about him because you see him, he only wants to play basketball and there's nothing else. And there's something pure and beautiful about it. Okay. Let's talk about the other superstar you've played with so many. And I know the boys have a lot of questions and we appreciate your time here live from denver in a hoodie it's raining out there oh man it's because all the fireworks are shooting up they're breaking up the clouds yeah yeah that's how it all works yeah so you played with so many superstars around the league for so long and jimmy's getting killed
Starting point is 02:12:19 right because uh obviously the internet's gonna let their jokes fly and it felt like jimmy wasn't the same jimmy but Butler as he had been. Himmy Bucket seemingly not in the game last night until the final four minutes, five minutes, where they started shooting and letting everything go. Is there just sometimes where guys just aren't feeling it? What do you think happened with Jimmy throughout a lot of that game? Why do you think he was so passive when he understood seemingly
Starting point is 02:12:41 that he had to be the guy, and how do you think this affects him going into the offseason? Well, look, I think, look, Jimmy's a stud. I think everyone, you know, if you just base someone's success off of one series, you're forgetting about what he did against Milwaukee, what he did against Boston. I think those three extra games that they had to go against the Seas to put them out. Sorry, Connor. So those three extra games that really no that hurt the
Starting point is 02:13:05 miami heat because now all of a sudden you go against a rest of denver team you're playing at altitude and i don't think people fully understand the level of exhaustion that you have to play at in these moments that's why that game last night was so ugly the denver nuggets say what you want they couldn't make any shots they couldn't they couldn't make any free throws it was a nasty nasty game as a lot of times these closeouts are. But ultimately, man, it's just Jimmy did everything. Jimmy left it all out there. And that's all you can ask. If you are a true competitor and you leave it all out there, shit.
Starting point is 02:13:33 So many games. You guys play so many. So many. That's like LeBron going to the finals, what, 19 times or something? Yeah. For like three extra seasons. Nine times. The amount of games in primetime.
Starting point is 02:13:45 Those are all primetime games. That's where stars are made. His career, his season's so long. Offseason, then. That's eating into the offseason. Yeah. So short. So him being, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:13:54 So Jimmy being tired makes sense. Just the way I was watching him play basketball, though. Like, this guy isn't human. He's just like, he's a completely different animal than last night. I was watching the internet just completely forget that he is still him. He buckles. Let's never forget it. Pac-Man has a question for you, RJ.
Starting point is 02:14:08 RJ. What's up, Pac? Carboyle Pope, Kristen Brown. How important is it to have these type of guys to play their role in these big games like this? Oh, man. It's huge, bro. Like, this is one of the things like, listen, like they just got a new GM, his name, uh, Calvin Booth outstanding job. He drafted Christian Brown
Starting point is 02:14:30 with his first pick. He brought in Bruce Brown on a very, very friendly pick a contract. And then he got KCP. So you get, those were the three off seasons signings. How important everyone knows those three guys names, right? From as a Denver Nugget and what they did in KCP. And it's about starring in your role, man. A lot of people will accept the role, like, fine, I'll do it. And then there's guys that show up that are like, what do you need me to do? Tell me what you need me to do. You need me to do this? You need me to do that? Okay, I'll get the work and make sure I do it. And they brought in three guys that all did it. Christian Brown, the student, won three championships in high school,
Starting point is 02:15:05 won a national championship in his first year. And then you bring in an absolute winner. He's a winner. He understands what it takes. There's a little bit extra that winners have. And so you can't compliment their GM and their front office enough for those three picks that all were absolute stars in this postseason. OK, so in our world, you know, in my world more specifically,
Starting point is 02:15:25 like you make it to the NFL, you're obviously very good at football, even if you're just getting a practice, a tryout, or whatever. You've probably been the best on your team wherever you were. And then sometimes in the NFL, they're like, okay, we're going to need you to block on punt team, and then we're going to need, which is a completely new, very new thing you've got to learn how to do this in three weeks. You've got to do a kick step like you're an offensive lineman.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Then you've got to throw somebody. Then you've got to run 70 yards just wide open. Every time. And then you've got to try to tackle somebody. And then we're going to put you on a kickoff team as well, kickoff return. All these have brand-new techniques. But that person had been the best football player on their football team their entire life.
Starting point is 02:16:02 Then they get to the NFL and they're like, okay, hey, there's a lot of really good football players here this is what you're gonna have to do some guys can't handle that mentally like ego wise some guys don't buy into your point is like saying buying into that oh i bet over your career you've seen a lot of guys that didn't get it like hey this is how you're gonna fucking be in the nba or you're not gonna be in the is that conversations that happen and have you oh yeah oh thousand percent pat like even look even me i went from coming off the bench to scoring 20 points a game to being a 12 point a game start like starter to being a five six point a game player afterwards you have to accept your role you know either evolve or die in any sport evolve or die and so it's like life like i only played
Starting point is 02:16:42 17 years i didn't play 17 years because i was like lebron james for 17 years i played 17 years because like you need me to come off the bench you need me to be a space up guy you need me to score a bunch you need me to be a defender what do you guys need and i'm going to do my very best to fill in those gaps and then also be a good teammate so yeah a lot of guys don't some guys you know and i don't want to say any names because i don't want to call nobody out but there are certain guys that like once their career goes to like I'm going from a star to like a role player, that's not how they want to play basketball. That's not how they want to do their sport. But the guys that can say, hey, look, you know what?
Starting point is 02:17:14 I was a star. I'm a role player now. And my job is to support the stars, give them some advice, and then support the younger guys because they understand like, wait, he used to be a star. He's telling me some good advice. And so, like, wait, he used to be a star. He's telling me some good advice. And so, yeah, man, that's part of the league. And the guys that don't do it, they don't last as long as they should. And those guys that get told, like, hey, this is what you're going to do now, love those, like, L.A. fitness pickup games. Oh, I bet.
Starting point is 02:17:37 You know, because people are like, this guy, sorry, he's on the bench for whatever. And then all of a sudden, not missing. Yeah. Not a single. There's levels to this shit yeah it just so happened to be in the nba doesn't get to happen as much in the nfl because it's not as much pickup games yeah true you know for guys that are like special teamers yeah to go play running back it's like a bunch of randoms receiver don't get to really prove it basketball
Starting point is 02:17:56 you get to which is good news ty has a question for you rj richard and every year after the nba finals ends we always hear you know people speculating about all these superstars who either want out or are going to probably change teams. And we've already gotten four or five big names who people are speculating are going to go elsewhere. In terms of a guy like James Harden, I saw a lot of people, you know, he's one of those guys who it's always like, hey, where is he going to go? He's not happy in one spot very, very often. People are talking about Phoenix and then maybe like them having to get rid of DeAndre Ayton in order to kind of facilitate that whole thing.
Starting point is 02:18:29 Do you think we'll see a bunch of these guys, Harden included, move to different teams? And also, like, am I crazy in thinking that Harden, like he's tried it with Durant a couple times. In NBA circles, is he known as a guy who great player, great score, but he's kind of just never going to win a championship? Well, I think, again, that's the definition of evolved. He's evolved.
Starting point is 02:18:51 He went from a 35-point-a-game score to then with Joel Embiid leading the league in assists. Like that's the definition of evolved, right? He's like, I'm not that guy anymore. So sometimes it's about accepting him as who he is. Right now he's a 20-10 guy, and that's on, let's say, quote unquote, the latter third of his career. I wouldn't say straight decline, but he's still an all-star player. So I think for James Harden, I wouldn't say that it's not about him winning a championship. It's just you're trying to figure out which version of him can you win a championship with.
Starting point is 02:19:21 You couldn't win a championship with with him averaging 35 a game now understand they went against the warriors with kevin durant and those ballers so that's not you know there's not that much shame in that but then he's rotated where he's got an mvp in in joel and b and he's a 20 and 10 i'm gonna get everyone involved kind of guy you didn't win a championship with that so it's not that he can't win it's not that that it's just sometimes you need things to go your way and you know you got to put in that work. But there's going to be movement. There's going to be a lot of movement in this offseason,
Starting point is 02:19:50 a lot of draft movement, a lot of crazy stuff. Yeah, which is the NBA, it seems like, every offseason. Yep. They're talking about Zion. Zion may be on move. It could be good. Yeah. Zion's moving things, yes. That's for sure.
Starting point is 02:20:04 Oh, RJ and Doc. Jeez, Louise. Be an adult Yes, that's for sure. Oh, RJ, enough! Jeez, Louise. Be an adult, please, on this show. Yeah. I would never. If you think that I'm the type of person that would crack jokes about someone's personal life, then you don't know me well enough. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:20:19 I'm happy to hear that. That's good. That's good news. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Richard, we also were watching you yesterday, and it was awesome when you were just shoving your mic into Perk's face. We all got a big kick out of that. Yeah, good work.
Starting point is 02:20:31 That was a great show. Good bit, good bit. Great bit. Another thing that was kind of hot on the Internet last night was kind of the whole jaw situation. And Adam Silver recently said he didn't want to take the shine away from the Nuggets and the finals in general. But after that, we'll probably you know hear the ruling are there circles in the nba that think
Starting point is 02:20:50 that he's going to get something like gilbert arena scott when you were playing in in the league or what do you think is going to happen there and then also has anyone reached out to him like yourself like veterans to kind of maybe help him get past this hiccup in his career? Look, I can't speak. I don't know him very well. I don't know his camp very well. But I will say this. There's nothing like when someone says, like, wait till your dad gets home.
Starting point is 02:21:17 Like, that's the one where you're sitting waiting on your punishment. You know it's coming, and you're just like, his team is waiting on his punishment. His opponents are waiting on his punishment. Everybody is waiting. And look, you can say that because there's a competitive stance, but there's also a side of it like Ja, obviously, we root for him. You root for any young athlete that gets an opportunity, especially when it's talented. It's him. NBA. And truth be told, I think sports needs him because he's such an exciting guy that casual fans want to watch him.
Starting point is 02:21:44 And so I think for me, it's more about like, hey, I just hope he figures it out. That's it. Again, same thing with anybody. We can crack jokes. We can have some fun. But ultimately, I think it's like this guy needs to figure it out. So you just said you were cracking jokes. You see that?
Starting point is 02:21:57 Because I thought he was being honest with us when he said he would never do that. Turns out he was lying. That's not what I would do. Turns out you were lying right there. Guys, I appreciate you guys. I got to run the NBA today. Today. Live.
Starting point is 02:22:08 Live. It's live, though. Hopefully you guys will have me on. It's live. It is live. That's why I have to run. I can't be late. All right.
Starting point is 02:22:14 Good luck out there, ladies and gentlemen. Richard Jefferson. Thank you. All right, man. So we learned a lot there. He didn't tell us about when the John Morant suspension will come, but the internet was certainly letting the jokes fly. Yeah, they were ripping it. That CBA
Starting point is 02:22:27 thing for the NBA is very interesting. Yeah, and he was sitting in Kroenke's suite. Sweet, yeah. That's the owner, obviously. When he first said it, I was just, oh, ex-player, I don't know. I'm going to act like I know because we are a sports program and should know. And then he started talking more. I'm like, Kroenke? Oh, he's with the
Starting point is 02:22:43 fucking owner. He's the owner. Smart to tell us you're friends with the owner. I like that. But also when you start talking about CBA and are you able, they basically don't let you keep people. It's like, well, there's probably a good connection there for at least a little conversation to hear thoughts about what the future looks like. Because if you're Cronky,
Starting point is 02:23:00 a man who's made an immense amount of cash, you're not thinking about right now all the time. You're probably thinking about the future on a pretty regular basis. So they probably know what's going to happen, how they're going to handle it. And it feels like with the way the NBA and the CBA set up, it's almost like they don't want you to pay your people more and more money, which I don't fully comprehend. But good luck to everybody being with the parity,
Starting point is 02:23:21 because if it wasn't for teams being built from the bottom and being able to build on you know marble as opposed to sand we wouldn't have had this denver nuggets team absolutely and even the you know warriors team that he referenced obviously katie comes in and they win a few more championships but then after katie's left he kind of they still got one last year so and they're homegrown like yeah they got a little beef right now don't they oh yeah remember draymond green punched that kid right in the mouth you talked about it you're on nba today jordan pool yes you remember you were like i don't know how it's gonna be like in the hype video for
Starting point is 02:23:57 the season is that it that was the kickoff the entire nba season. Welcome to the 2023 NBA season. Bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo. And then they go, yeah, yeah, big go. They got like LeBron dunking it. All the storylines that could be. And then all of a sudden there's like, Golden State has some drama. AJ Hawks face. I don't know how you'd be friends after that.
Starting point is 02:24:23 Bang, right into another thing. I mean, you told the story of the NBA. That's unbelievable. I don't think there was any video of me. I think it was just voice. We all saw your face. When we heard it. When we heard it.
Starting point is 02:24:34 Have they gotten over it? Are they cool? Are Draymond and Jordan Poole, are they cool? Not at all. That's what they were saying was the end of the year problem is that the younger supporting cast around Steph, and I guess Klay would still be counted as the the whole thing the younger supporting cast would like to kind of remove the older supporting cast like hey this is kind of our team congratulations you guys helped
Starting point is 02:24:54 Steph and Clay before changing thank you for your services yeah now it is kind of our time to do the same thing seemingly that's how I read the beef right yeah that's kind of our time to do the same thing. Seemingly, that's how I read the beef, right? That's kind of what we heard about. And so much that Steph Curry actually had to get up and say, stop this shit. Bingo. Don't get on a bus. That's right. You don't want to do this.
Starting point is 02:25:13 Then he dropped 50 game seven. And won. And proved why people were fighting to be his supporting cast. Yes. Then they lost. Yeah. And then they said, well, the young guys don't like the old guys. There's a lot of beef.
Starting point is 02:25:24 Are they in the middle of the dynastic run still? We don't know. And Steve Kerr was like, hey, this isn't a chance. You only keep the beef down for so long. Guys not playing together. That's right. Beef all over the place. That's right.
Starting point is 02:25:34 People look in the locker room, and guess what? It's divided. GDIs, goddamn individuals. Boom. How about it? Big me, little team. Yeah. We need to flip that.
Starting point is 02:25:43 You can have that. Little me, big team, AJ. It's tough in basketball, man. It's a star-driven league. That's what Denver has. And if you take care of the little things, the big things take care of themselves. They didn't take care of the little things.
Starting point is 02:25:52 They didn't. And the little things were ruined for a long time. You know, it's like a bamboo. Then became big things. That's right. Just like it. Boom. One of those shoots.
Starting point is 02:25:59 What about bamboo? The bamboo shoot. Ladies and gentlemen. Up your fingernails. The New York Jets have signed another player from the Green Bay Packers. Safety Adrian Amos is signing a one-year deal worth
Starting point is 02:26:11 up to $4 million with the New York Jets. Aaron Rodgers was asked, hey, whenever you're in practice and stuff, got a good player? Aaron's a good player, actually. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about your scheme as well, with the way you guys kind of run what you do, you kind of drop them in there, I think you'd be a great addition. Then they go, hack it, hack it. What do you think
Starting point is 02:26:27 of this guy whenever you try? Oh, great player. We had him in there. Boom, all of a sudden we got the New York Packers. This thing's really starting to cook, isn't it? It feels like it's starting to cook up in Pac-Man Jones. It's a lot of Packers going to New York. How's he? How's he a player? He's pretty good. He's really good. If I had one nick on him, ball skills.
Starting point is 02:26:43 He'll do pretty good with catching the ball with it when it's in the air but he comes down he can play he can play from top down he's pretty good look at this the jets defense gets seemingly better aj whoa they do hey he he how many years is he in green bay because people love him they're like that dude only two he was very good for their defense yeah he was a bear then he was a packer now he's a jet so it's obviously not his first home. We assume it will be his last home. I think everybody's hoping that is the case.
Starting point is 02:27:09 But this Jets defense, real deal. This is the conversation about why. They were last year. Had a rookie of the year. Sauce. Great name. Is there... Is Quinn and Williams still holding out? I figured out. Because he's their best D-lineman by.
Starting point is 02:27:25 Is he at the main tournament? Who's their edge rusher that tore his ACL in camp, like, first day? He's back. Last year, Lawson? Lawson. Yeah, it was Lawson, right? He's back, isn't he? Breeze Hall is back.
Starting point is 02:27:36 They said he's running 21 miles an hour on thing. Three of them. Sorry. Yeah, they got a team over there. They're a really good team. Still making moves, though, too, which I appreciate. They're trying to win right now. Yes.
Starting point is 02:27:48 They have to. Right now. We have no idea. It's quarterback. It's kind of running our offense right now. We don't know how long he's going to be here. Fucking got to win right now. So if Hackett does well there, Hackett gets hired somewhere else,
Starting point is 02:27:59 Salah's like, hey, listen, Aaron, if you want to be the offense coordinator however long you want to stay around, that'd be great. They said he's just running shit, AJ. You heard that. Feels like it, right? You tell me. Yeah, come on.
Starting point is 02:28:10 You know. I mean, I don't think he's not running things. I mean, he knows, has respect for the head coach and the coaching staff, but I'm sure he has plenty of input. You would think Aaron know this offense a little bit more than heck. Like, he was in there with his dad when all this. Like, Aaron should know this. This should be Aaron's offense. And this is the offense that he has described
Starting point is 02:28:27 as beautiful. Remember, isn't that what he said? He said the West Coast offense is beautiful. There's reasoning behind everything. There's concepts. There's changes. Once you really understand... There's not movement on every single play. Sorry to cut you off, but he's even said that. Can I just get one play without some pre-snap motion? That was his issue with some of what
Starting point is 02:28:43 they ran with the floor. And I know that's what people do to confuse defenses, but I think at times he just wants to get back to, like, the roots and what he came in with. Yeah, and Aaron also wants to, like, I understand that some quarterbacks might not just be able to see exactly what the defense is doing without the motion. Because the motion's big. Like, are they in zone or are they man, right?
Starting point is 02:29:01 That's, like, the most simple concept for me as a watcher. Like, who follows the running back whenever he comes in who follows the wide receiver are they just checking off and you're immediately knowing they're in zone if somebody's sticking with it it's like okay they're in man right now like it's just an easy indicator and aaron's saying yeah can we get one play where you don't okay we get it they're in man okay are they in man quarter though are they in like if you just let me look for a second i might be able to figure it out for you that's old school though you know i mean that's very old school and it feels like this offense he's going back to that and he has talked very highly of it and he knows it very well do we think that the wide receivers will be able to just
Starting point is 02:29:40 pick it up yeah yeah i've read a lot of stuff too that's said like they expect garrett wilson to like be right up there with jamar chase and justin jefferson this year like he's poised to have an absolute breakout year and then lazard obviously you got two vets yeah that can teach the younger guys i mean the guys that wasn't with him in green bay what if they do it new york will be bananas. New Jersey will. They're expecting to. Yeah, everybody. Oh, yeah. But what if they do, dude? You know what I mean? This is like when I was golfing with that one guy. He was 265 yards out or whatever. Around
Starting point is 02:30:14 a bend to a fucking green. Yep. And then he stops everything and makes a big fucking scene. And then he takes out his fucking club and he puts it on the middle of the green, like eight feet from the thing. It's like, okay, you were basically forced to do that. There was no other option for you. You duff that,
Starting point is 02:30:29 the next 48 hours of your life is going to be tough. That is literally what you're going to be talking about. With Aaron right now, in the Jets, they know, all anybody's talking about is Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl. Same as like, hey, we got to go do this. If they go do it, what an accomplishment. Not going to be easy.
Starting point is 02:30:47 Speaking of not being easy, tough to keep teams together even if you've got the greatest coach. That's the truth. Josh Allen has spoken about Stephon Diggs in his press conference post-practice. Sal Capaccio is on the beat. Josh Allen on Stephon Diggs. I know internally we are working on some things. Not football related. Steph is my guy.
Starting point is 02:30:59 I fucking love him. Great answer. Okay. Here's a lot more. Not football related. Here it is. There are some things that could have gone better last year. I think as an organization, maybe we're not communicating the right way.
Starting point is 02:31:12 Allen on Diggs who says there is not a personality conflict between the two. Josh Allen on, okay. Allen says he spoke with Diggs today. We don't want this to be a distraction. He doesn't want this to be a distraction. Okay, well, we're already there. This is what it is right now. I'm not sweating.
Starting point is 02:31:27 He's my brother, and I love him. Allen on Diggs' situation. Josh Allen asked Stefan Diggs, does it want to be here? Yes. Wow. And that's it. Communication stuff from last year is interesting. Yes.
Starting point is 02:31:39 Like what? This is a Josh and Stefan Diggs thing is what it seems like. No. I mean, that's what. No, no, that's what... I don't know. There's things that could have gone better last year. I think as an organization, maybe we're not communicating the right way. He does say we, I guess. We're not communicating the right way.
Starting point is 02:31:55 But I guess as the organization, in my eyes, when he brings up organization, he's talking about front office coach with Stefan Diggs. That's what I think. Where are you seeing that it's Josh? I don't know. It just seems like he's reiterating the fact that he loves Stephon Diggs and the last
Starting point is 02:32:11 photo that I saw of Diggs, aside from his Instagram on a football field, is him looking at Josh Allen. What the fuck? Just personally? I am, but that's the taste in my mouth because that's the last thing I was watching. Why would he throw organization in there then? Like, I don't think.
Starting point is 02:32:28 He said organization, then he said we, so I don't know. And then maybe it was, maybe we're looking at it a little wrong. Maybe the fact that he was, the Buffalo Bills were even rumored to be talking to D-Hop, you know, was something that Stephon Diggs was like, what's that, bro? Like, what are we, You know what I mean? Maybe, you know? Was he there at all in OTAs? Did Diggs show up at all in OTAs? Do we know?
Starting point is 02:32:52 I think he was in Paris, bro. I was trying to follow along. He has a really cool Instagram. Why hasn't this come up earlier is my question. I think it was rumblings as the season ended. As the season ended, there was rumblings, but then they kind of disappeared because the Buffalo Beals are the Buffalo Beals are the Buffalo Beals. Like, the Buffalo Beals, everybody likes being a Buffalo Beal.
Starting point is 02:33:07 Right. You know what I mean? That's why the D-Hop thing, though, like, look at the last three Super Bowl champs. Like, KC, they have Kelsey, who's their guy, which Diggs would still be, but they still add MVS and Juju, and they added Tony. There's been stories, though, and not that they were looking to trade Stephon Diggs, but, like, there's been stories where players got pissed off because they've been told, hey, we'll never
Starting point is 02:33:25 trade you, and then it gets reported that they answered the call that there was a trade thing. Maybe there was something where they're like, Stefan, you're a guy. He can get traded, though. No, but I'm saying the D-hop thing. I do wonder if potentially not knowing that they were going to potentially be looking for
Starting point is 02:33:41 another number one type wide receiver maybe pisses him off, but then he goes to the building and he does it. I don't know. Organization, communication, what would they not be communicating with him? All we talk about is how many weapons you need. We legitimately talk about that so much. So why would...
Starting point is 02:33:58 We talk about that. We're not number one wide receiver. But look at the last... If his contract's untradeable and every single team in the last three years who's on the Super Bowl has added guys every single offseason and during the season, then why would that be a problem? It seems like a lot of reason. Stephon's a different. Yeah, I don't know, though.
Starting point is 02:34:15 Maybe he is mad that they didn't get him and they're not going to win, or maybe he thinks they're not going to be able to win and he just wants to win. And then why would he go in there and have meetings with them and then the head coach is very concerned when he's talking to the press was does he have a full presentation on how they went what what the fuck is going on that could make sense though because the we hope everybody's okay the conversation around it was like hey d hop takes them over the top and if he you know i mean he's a number one so he might have been like oh like i'm not fucking good enough to get us over the hump we need to get d hop in here to win a
Starting point is 02:34:44 super bowl like you could maybe see how yeah especially given like that's football related been like, oh, I'm not fucking good enough to get us over the hump. We need to get D-Hop in here to win a Super Bowl. You could maybe see how, especially given his – That's football related, isn't it? Isn't that football related? Yeah, true. Yeah, but maybe it's like the trust I feel like you guys are trying to get. Or maybe he didn't like the way they did the whole situation. They kind of threw him under the bus a little bit with all the stuff after the playoff game last year.
Starting point is 02:35:00 Josina Anderson is reporting that she's being told the private talks have taken place for a while now between Stephon Diggs' camp and the Buffalo Beals. And there was an understanding that sides are on page, same page. That's why Sean McDermott's comment today caught some off guard. There's hope that the head coach will give a clarification soon. That's one of two tweets. What else does Josina have?
Starting point is 02:35:22 She has this. I'm told the nature of the private talks is not money-related, though. The heart of the matter wasn't shared at this time. While a team source said Diggs left prior to the practice today after previous meetings, the expectation is he's returning to the facility per source. Man, hope everybody's okay. All right? Hope everybody's all right.
Starting point is 02:35:42 Hope everything's okay. Obviously, there's some shit going on. We just want everybody to kind of get back on the same page. A lot of money, a lot of production, and if it is any type of miscommunication, let's sort it. Let's sort it. Get to the bottom of it. You know what I mean, AJ?
Starting point is 02:35:57 Let's sort it. Let's sit down and talk it out. Let's go to some phone calls on the 500G phone line to wrap up this glorious Tuesday. We just had a lot of news. A lot of news today. 1-833-433-3663. 1-833-4... The Dome.
Starting point is 02:36:09 The Dome would be this building that we're in right here, the Thunder. Yeah. What a place. What a place. We're about to get it super decorated, bro. What? Here we go.
Starting point is 02:36:16 AJ, we're about to make this place not so corpo looking. You know what I mean? Like what? Like what does that mean? I don't know. We've hired a couple of artists and painters and things like that.
Starting point is 02:36:23 Oh, sweet. Hell yeah. Yeah, and I'm sure we're not getting properly fucked on pricing, but I mean... You got graffiti on the walls? What are you going to do? No, just like... Will these artists come in? You know, artists are so interesting. They are.
Starting point is 02:36:36 Because they are incredibly talented and they provide an incredible thing to the world. But also, like, the pricing on it, I feel like, is always going to be interesting oh absolutely you know because like yeah you're putting a price on somebody's craft which is their time and their effort yeah but also their creation yeah and their art and how much is that worth their process and the whole product the whole thing it's very interesting you know what i mean but this place is gonna look pretty sick i think this football season. People are going to be calling into the 5RNG. Well, maybe not the 5RNG. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:37:10 Calling into the phone line, 1-833-432. I am so pumped about this upcoming football season, AJ. I mean, honestly, it is far away, but it's really not that far. How many days, Connor? We are 86 days away from NFL. You said 84 earlier. No, 86 it's really not that far. How many days, Connor? We are 86 days away from NFL football.
Starting point is 02:37:25 You said 84 earlier. No, 86. Is that until a game or is that camp or is that a preseason game? What is that? That is until the Thursday night football kickoff of the season, Lions-Chiefs. Regular season. Yeah. Regular season.
Starting point is 02:37:37 Good to know. Not that Hall of Fame crap. No, no, no. That'll count. Lo and behold, just like us, we'll do it again. That's right. Coming up, that Hall of Fame game. We're going to be so pumped. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:37:49 NFL uniforms are on a football field to celebrate NFL accomplishments. Let's go. That's an XFL game in the future happening in Canton, Ohio, except for Josh Jacobs playing, which made us all wonder, what the fuck did Josh Jacobs do? That was a nice little treat. It was. Josh Jacobs get 20 carries in the Hall of Fame treat. It was. Josh Jacobs get 20 carries
Starting point is 02:38:06 in the Hall of Fame. It was almost like, congrats to the Hall of Famers, and also congrats to Josh Jacobs getting to display that he is so much better than all these fucking guys on the football field right now. That which obviously led to us thinking there was maybe some issues between the Vegas Raiders and Josh Jacobs. Turns out there was, and then he gets
Starting point is 02:38:22 back on the field. Now he's a franchise, and there's more. So I'll be excited to see how that pans out with him being a superstar. But we're going to do it again, aren't we, AJ? This Hall of Fame game, we're going to get so pumped up. And it'll be one drive. And we'll go, this ain't football. Okay, good run, Hall of Fame. And then we realize, oh, we're standing down four more weeks of this.
Starting point is 02:38:39 Preseason football. You're right. That's not even really the start. You're right. We'll have training camp fights. We'll have all types of stuff. A lot of lights coming from camp. Guys throwing the ball off of nets and stuff.
Starting point is 02:38:51 Guys puking all over the place. Quarterbacks throwing balls into tiny little nets. Hard knocks with the Jets. Yeah, hopefully we get a Jets hard knocks. They do not want it. They don't. Fucking choice. Let's go to Matt in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 02:39:03 Matt, what's going on, pal? Yeah, hello, boy. Pat, AJ, and the boys. Much mana? Much mana. All right, so I want to discuss about the Buffalo Beals, as you guys say. You guys say the Super Bowl window's not closed, but I have to agree with the Dildine,
Starting point is 02:39:20 you know, Boston Connor on this. I think it's closed, and they've been in disarray for quite a while since the end of the season, you know. What did Cody? They got beat. Everything that went on in the season. Cincinnati went in and sucked the life out of the Bills mafia. Beat them like a drum.
Starting point is 02:39:34 Yeah, they did. Then you have Leslie Frazier leave. And then you have Terrell Edmonds gone. That's 100 tackles gone. And then everything else is going. AFC has gotten way much better all the way around, just not in their division. Okay. Do you think the window's closed?
Starting point is 02:39:47 All right, great question. Good points. Great question, good points. What's a dildine? What did you call Connor there? A dildine, D-I-L, D-I-N-E. Yeah, but what is a dildine? Is that similar to the version of dild?
Starting point is 02:40:03 It's not a bildo. No, it's kind of like a slang for like a dillweed or a dweeb or a dork or something along those lines. Nice. What part of the world says that? It's in my part of Pennsylvania. I'm calling from Potter County, Pennsylvania, Austin, Pennsylvania. About three and a half
Starting point is 02:40:20 hours north of Pittsburgh. Oh, okay. Northeast? Yeah, northeast. I'm towards the Ohio side. That'd be west. Yeah, I'm sorry. Not Philly. West. Ohio side. Who's the Dildine now, prick?
Starting point is 02:40:36 Dildine's a drinking buddy. You're a New England patriot. I met a Dildine today and he gave me wisdom and fun in a bottle. Sounds like you're a hero absolutely i don't know if the same dill dine is the same one as potter's town or whatever but thank you for the call appreciate that he brought up a lot of good points he knew what he was talking about for sure feels like he's very invested in not having the buffalo bill succeed which i do appreciate but it
Starting point is 02:41:00 is a crazy thought whenever you have josh allen's quarterback which everybody's saying is the mold for what you want and we're talking about about what is going on over there in Buffalo, dude? All things were good just a week. It was all good just a week ago. You know? It feels like it was publicly. And the EHOB stuff, too. It does kind of, now I'm trying to think back to before.
Starting point is 02:41:20 Von Miller kind of pushed it in the beginning, and then he stopped pushing it. Oh. Kind of. Wow. Hmm. Are we starting to piece some things together here? well because now I'm trying to see how the you're thinking like a fan of a football team not like of a player
Starting point is 02:41:36 you're talking about Stephon Diggs potentially being offended that they were trying to sign DeHoff yes and you brought up a lot of good points about like yeah to win a Super Bowl, you need to have another guy and everything like that. But if the team didn't tell him that they were potentially doing it, you could see how maybe that's what he got offended by.
Starting point is 02:41:52 That's communication, yeah. Yeah, I could see that. Here's from April. History in the making. Fear of God, Jerry Lorenzo. Adidas, hashtag fear of God. Stephon Diggs, three handshakes. DeAndre Hopkins, two handshakes.
Starting point is 02:42:05 Maybe that's what he's pissed about. Wow, can't triple stamp a double stamp, dude. One emoji down. What's going on? Maybe I care more than you do. Yeah, but see, now that makes me think, okay, never mind. So definitely. What does that have to do with it?
Starting point is 02:42:16 He's not going to be mad at DeHop for any of that. DeHop's not, I mean. Well, then why would he be mad at him for joining the team? Well, that's a big difference. He's talking strictly as my production's about to go down. Yeah. I mean, he had 120 catches. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:32 He's still going to catch 100 balls. We agree. We're trying to. No, I know. We're on your side here. No, I know. This is open forum. I just don't understand why he'd be mad.
Starting point is 02:42:41 Diggs also liked this tweet, I do believe. Thank you, Arizona. Always love. And it's him shaking the hand or giving a fist bump to Devin Booker at a Phoenix Suns game. And it's him posing really cool. Chandler Jones probably put Mac Jones through
Starting point is 02:42:55 the desert. No, he was on the Raiders. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. Still in the desert though. But in the future, he would put Mac Jones through the ground. Remember when Chandler Jones took Mac Jones and said, get over here. Don't try to tackle me. It was an inside job.
Starting point is 02:43:09 Boom. Kobe Myers went to the Raiders after. It was always an inside job. Boom, you won't be cheap shotting me. What do you think? It was an inside job. Like most things these days. You muttered some things.
Starting point is 02:43:20 Kobe Myers, who threw the ball, is now a Los Angeles Raiders. I don't, I'm not, that's not what we're talking about. Okay, if we want to talk about that, we can. Jacoby Myers who threw the ball is now a Los Angeles player. That's not what we're talking about. If we want to talk about that, we can. Your darn kick on his slide. He took a shin guard and said, I'll get you there. He wasn't able to get him with the shin guard.
Starting point is 02:43:39 So then he put this thing up and he actually did one of those. Remember? Did I get your ding? He got some bears. Good toe point. Thank you. That really clips him at the end. That's what gets him. It clips the tip at the end.
Starting point is 02:43:52 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Why was he kicking people in the dog? I don't know. That's just how he plays. I can't say anything about it. It's just what he does. If he's on my team, I would like it. It is what it is. It feels so good to take a knee with those on.
Starting point is 02:44:07 The funny thing about it is I can't feel anything. It feels like I'm still standing. You know what I mean? It feels like I'm still standing. You're going to lay some tile. Maybe carpet. Bang that carpet into the corners. You know what I mean? Get that knee going. I'm scuffing out my shoes that the Herbfield family bought for me.
Starting point is 02:44:23 Let's go to the fence. Let's go to Nate in Pittsburgh. Let's go home, mate. Hey, how you doing? Long time listener. First time caller. Love the show. Hell yeah, mate. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:32 What's going on, pal? Hey, just want to send a little RIP to a sports legend in Pittsburgh. Mr. Stan Saverin passed away. Little shout out. That's all I got. Yeah, you're right, mate. Thank you for calling and reminding us. Quite a bummer yesterday is the name.
Starting point is 02:44:47 Stan Saverin was announced dead yesterday around Pittsburgh. He spans on a microphone for basically everything Pittsburgh-related. He had a Pittsburgh show beloved by everybody. No, not everybody, I guess, but everybody understood and respected the fact that he represented the city of Pittsburgh in beautiful fashion in sports world. And the world will miss him, as will Pittsburgh. Yeah. Rest in peace, Stan.
Starting point is 02:45:08 Hell yeah. Thank you, Stan. Hell yeah, Stan. I apologize to Stan that I'm wearing these shin guards. Nobody's going to take it serious. When you started it. Nobody's going to take it serious.
Starting point is 02:45:24 They want to appreciate him. Stan will. Rest in peace, Stan. I do fucking appreciate everything you did for my child. Godfather. Godfather in Pittsburgh. Take a step forward then. He's sitting up in heaven with DiNardo.
Starting point is 02:45:39 There he is. DiNardo and Stan are up there. We do appreciate you, Stan. I do apologize that I have these fashionable shin guards on in the middle of this. I wish that this was not the day that we had to do this. Jeez Louise. Rest in peace. Sam would have respected that.
Starting point is 02:45:55 Yeah, he would have. One more fun call here before we get out of here on this glorious Tuesday. Let's go to Nick in Maryland. What's going on, Nick? What's your problem, AJ? Hey, Pat. Boys, how's it going? Keep it moving.
Starting point is 02:46:05 Nailed it. Had a question about Odell Beckham reporting to mandatory minicamp today. Just wanted to see what you guys think of this upcoming season for the Ravens, especially their offense. And do you think they can overpass the Cincinnati Bengals this year and win the division? Well I was going to have Pac-Man kind of break this down because you know he probably knows Odell Becker better than all of us because he's probably played against him a little bit. Odell Beckham really changes that team over there and do you think that the Baltimore Ravens are
Starting point is 02:46:36 back in contention for the AFC North with your Cincinnati Bengals? Of course Odell changed the team with the things that he can do and you can move him around outside in, having the quarterback back, I think them and the Bengals will probably be the winner of the division. What about the Pittsburgh Steelers? I don't think Pittsburgh will be talked about this year as far as winning the division. Odell Beckham went to the Los Angeles Rams
Starting point is 02:47:02 and corrected every narrative that was potentially out there about him after he left New York, goes to Cleveland. His dad makes a video about Baker Mayfield seemingly looking him off, even if he's wide open as the number one wide receiver. Cleveland lets him go and says, yeah, we understand you're going through some shit. We don't love that we're locked down here either. They would move on from Baker. All those coaches would go on to dap up Odell Beckham Jr. when they saw him in the future. And every teammate OBJ has ever had has said they fucking love him as a teammate. When he went to Los Angeles, McVay said, hey, listen, you're one of one. I'm going to get you a touchdown every single week that you're on this team. So much so that in the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 02:47:39 Odell Beckham Jr. was the game plan. We want to win a Super Bowl. Let's feed this dude who can throw tuds and obviously do everything else. He became a whole new conversation until he tore his ACL in the middle of that Super Bowl game. Now, tearing his ACL is such an interesting thing because he was playing this entire season and all these highlights that we're seeing him in right here with an already partially torn ACL
Starting point is 02:48:00 because the previous surgery that he had didn't take. It wasn't a full surgery. So in the biggest moment in the Super Bowl, the surgery that wasn't full ended up being exposed whenever the whole ACL tears. He's back better than ever, going to be a weapon. Lamar Jackson's probably super pumped, AJ. Well, it will be fun to watch their offense with Lamar and Odell.
Starting point is 02:48:21 I hope they do some crazy, like, pitch it back to Odell when Lamar goes out and catches a touchdown pass. I hope to see all of those kind of things. But I still feel like Cincy is the head of the class in the AFC North. Yeah, and you are obviously a Cincinnati Bengals fan, I think, naturally. Yes, I'm very biased, of course. Pac-Man is as well, so we have a lot of that. But it's for good reason.
Starting point is 02:48:39 The team is fucking remarkable. And Joey Burrow looks cooler somehow than he's ever. He's somehow Joey Bur-er this year. Somehow it's gotten even better but i can't wait you're right odell beckham junior under center with lamar running back or whatever or wide receiver oh yes they did that last year with uh mark yeah injuries i did they he under center lamar actually hands on pads running back pitch option Was it option? I don't remember if it was option or pitch. I thought it was a toss.
Starting point is 02:49:08 Yeah, whatever the case. Actual running back lead cut, got a couple yards and up there. And they do that strictly because they say not bad for a running back. But with Odell Beckham Jr. being able to throw as well as he can throw, run as well as he can run, and Lamar, Monken can get real creative. He can get real creative for that. Are the Steelers scared right now? Actually, no. I'm actually very, very confident going into this year.
Starting point is 02:49:32 Very, very happy with it. I don't know if that's the case, Stiggs. Doesn't sound like it. Oh, he said you put a little bass in your voice. Maybe I'd listen to you. What's this guy's fucking problem? I don't have bass to put in my voice, okay? No, I'm very, very, very, very confident. I mean, Pac says it takes three wide receivers. Sure, Ravens now have one, so congrats on that.
Starting point is 02:49:50 Bengals lost both their safeties. That'll make their fucking defense really good. We got Lou Anamama. That is right. Holy hell. I've never heard a more true statement. Players don't matter? Yeah, but he can plug and play with safeties.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Did we just drop the safety? I don't know. Are drafted players matter? Yeah, but he can plug and play with safeties. Didn't we just draft the safety? I don't know. Are drafted players good? Stud. Who? I'm not sure if they drafted one or not. We did. We'll get them right. Yeah, of course. You said Justin Jeffries earlier?
Starting point is 02:50:19 That's the first time I've heard. Have you said that before? You said again. You said, did I do it again? There was one other time. No, he said that. There was one other time. And you actually brought it up to me later. Like, hey, why didn't you correct me when I said Justin Jeffries?
Starting point is 02:50:31 That's awesome. Some of these names are impossible, Beck. Oh, yeah. Like, there's sometimes I'll be talking about something, and I'd seen the tweet from the person of the name, and I have to take the tractor another round because i'm still trying to find what the name was in that tweet so i'm selling this person a whole nother at least 10 to 15 words to try to figure out what the name is it is a tough thing though because i feel like if you get somebody's name right they appreciate it
Starting point is 02:51:00 yeah if you get some if you get somebody's name wrong though they've they're like this remember yeah yeah this person doesn't even, you know what I mean? But not a lot of people are good at names, though. No, so bad. It's not an easy thing at all. So when you said Justin Jeffries, I'm like, fuck, I have no idea who that is. I have no idea what D-Tackle in that picture is.
Starting point is 02:51:17 Is he Tennessee? I don't know who I'm supposed to know. Yeah, who is it? Jeffrey Simmons? He's a dog. Yeah, dog. Not a bad show these past couple days. No.
Starting point is 02:51:27 You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Loaded with guests. We did a new logo drop yesterday. Yeah, it was sweet. Did you enjoy that, AJ? I did. I mean, I was completely surprised, for real.
Starting point is 02:51:37 I guess Cleveland Browns are fans of the program. Yeah, that's kind of cool. Some people, not all people. Sure. Some people in their building, big fans. We appreciate them. Thank you for letting us do that. That was kind of cool. Some people, not all people. Sure. Some people in their building, big fans. We appreciate them. Thank you for letting us do that. That was sweet.
Starting point is 02:51:48 They were cool people. Now, obviously, Brownie is an elf. They don't speak our language. Right. Didn't get to meet anybody else. But everybody else that was there from the Browns, we kind of got a chance to chat with and learn about. They're cool people, man.
Starting point is 02:52:00 I'm excited to see what they end up doing. This is their brand-new dog logo. Absolutely nothing. What are you talking about? They ain't going up doing. This is their brand new dog logo. Absolutely nothing. What are you talking about? They ain't going to do nothing. They got a new dog logo. And there's cool things in the logo, like top left ear. That's the shape of Ohio.
Starting point is 02:52:13 I'm more worried about them than the Ravens. Oh, is that really? Yeah, it is. There's a couple little Easter eggs, I guess, in this thing that was generated by a fan. The brown stripe in the middle. Dirty, what else was in there, Dirty? Didn't they tell you a bunch of the... Yeah, that mouth is supposed to be that bridge that the Guardian
Starting point is 02:52:31 stands on. And then on his collar, that white part is the... Yeah, there it goes. The east end zone, which is where the dog pound's at. Guitar pick? Rock and roll hall thing? Wow! Look at that.
Starting point is 02:52:45 Who cares? Cincinnati. East End. Well said, Pat. Well said. It was cool. Congrats to them. That's a very good logo.
Starting point is 02:52:54 Yeah. There's some of those internet people that make it into my timeline. They, like, redo people's logos. Yeah, some of those are awesome. And then they're like, retweet this to get to the team. And I'm like, some of these teams are going to be very pissed that they see this. Because it's like, that's definitely nicer than ours. But we've signed trademarks on this logo for the next 45 fucking years.
Starting point is 02:53:16 But our fans are like, hey, this is much cooler. And it's like, it certainly is. It certainly is, but that ain't how this goes. Have you seen the Lions one? Unbelievable. Yeah, that girl that makes those is so talented. I want the Lions one. That logo is a thousand times better. Sweet.
Starting point is 02:53:28 Yeah, the Lions kind of get put in a spot there because it's like so good. And the Lions are like, what do you want? We should just re-sign them. We got the fuck, every jersey, our whole stadium, our fucking field. You know how much money that costs? We are so sorry.
Starting point is 02:53:41 They could, though, just like buy those logos and make a bunch of t-shirts and not have to do it. Secondary logos. Yeah, exactly. They do that, right? Yeah. And make a bunch of t-shirts And not have to Secondary logos Yeah exactly They do that right Yeah This is a secondary logo Yeah this one is
Starting point is 02:53:49 It's good looking Are you going to buy that For the state of Ohio Tribute you know Guitar pick It'll be between that And some Vee Friends cards That I can open up
Starting point is 02:53:57 Maybe buy 20 to 40 Yeah Go with the cards What do you mean Choosing what to spend my money on Choosing what to spend my money on Are you talking about The Gary Vee Mon
Starting point is 02:54:04 The Pokemon Yes Yeah whenever he's going to open up He's been very excited online A lot of Go with the cards. What do you mean? Choosing what to spend my money on. Choosing what to spend my money on. Are you talking about the Gary Vee-mon? The Pokemon? Yes. Yeah, whenever he's been opening up, he's been very excited online. One of his buddies opened up a really rare one. No. No, he did. He unpacked a precocious porcupine and came in his pants pretty much. Went absolutely...
Starting point is 02:54:19 No, the whole room. What's funny? The whole room busted everywhere when his buddy put an autograph on it. It was one of one, Pat. Make a joke in your ear. What is Pat doing? Is he crying? I think he saw a photo of himself with the shin pads on.
Starting point is 02:54:33 The shin guards, yeah. Fashion, bro. Yeah. The nice bat. Man, why? Why did you say that the way you said that? What do you mean, what did I say? People are enjoying this thing.
Starting point is 02:54:44 The way you said it was just, everybody's real excited. What's your problem, bro? I'm trying to figure it out. I feel like the old guy. I'm like, just let me in on the fun. Let me understand the excitement. I think it's Gary Vee-mon. And if I never did the Pokemon thing, I've actually told the story.
Starting point is 02:54:59 I have respect for everybody. It's fucking an incredible business. They've done incredible things. I didn't even play video games growing up or watch TV. I mean, there was, I didn't do anything. I didn't even play video games growing up or watch TV. I mean, there was... I didn't do anything. I didn't have time, let alone cards and flipping everything. What makes one more valuable than the other, though, in the whole V-Mon?
Starting point is 02:55:11 So I think the Pokemon, I don't know. I don't... They have points, I believe. Zito just sold Charizard. Yeah, Z's in it. For like a shit ton of money. Just a week... About a week ago.
Starting point is 02:55:21 A week ago. About a week ago. He literally sold something for a bunch of money. So I understand the whole give and take. And then you sit and you play, right? It's like you're playing war. No one ever played. You just collect the cards.
Starting point is 02:55:33 What about the Gary Vee Mon, though? Are they playing? That's different because that's high stakes. That's, you know, hey, my Gary Vee Mon are going to fucking wipe the floor with your Gary Vee Mon. So do they play against each other? I don't know, AJ. That's a good question. Yeah, the points.
Starting point is 02:55:46 You see, I think the nine and a half, is that how many attack points it has? What makes them worth anything? What gives them value? Because Gary says so. Yeah. Wake up. That's all I need to know. That's all I need to know.
Starting point is 02:55:56 It's playing to man on Gary's chart. People are having fun. I did see that video you were talking about. Those people were fucking jacked up I need something Because you guys are all so fucking cynical So effusive I need something
Starting point is 02:56:13 In my life that happens around us That gets you guys as jacked as those guys were I don't know if I've experienced that in some time That's not true When we all went to Top Gun We were all that jack Oh, my God. You're right. We were. Yeah, we were juiced up. Okay. And we got
Starting point is 02:56:29 another opportunity here in about a month. Mission Impossible comes out. All right. So that's what our TC. Bro, think about that moment. They were so happy in that video. AJ, so happy. Was that was it real? Like that was the first time they inched that card away
Starting point is 02:56:45 And saw it was the autograph Yeah Yes Went fucking ballistic Gary Vee needs ease right now From AJ You know what I mean I'm not
Starting point is 02:56:54 I am only Giving him great pub Because I'm trying to get in on it Think about that That's how good these are Wow Not only are they fashionable And make you look cool,
Starting point is 02:57:05 they're incredibly convenient if you're ever getting attacked. Never bang your knee on a little table again. Never, dude. Just fucking walk around, bang. What's up? No problem. Ooh, I got a surgery on that knee a couple times. Couldn't tell.
Starting point is 02:57:18 You know why? Clods are on. Boom. That's my kneecap. I just hit my patella. You know that? Watch out for that. What was the old little part that you messed up?
Starting point is 02:57:30 Papadius. Thank you. There it is. That was the back. That was a real problem there. That is uncovered. My papadius is back. You might have to tape the other one on one leg.
Starting point is 02:57:41 Right. That's good fashion. Put two on one leg. Yeah. Put that one on the back of the other leg Half one is that max stretch You have any shoulder pads in there you can put on? No dude that's not fashion don't be an asshole
Starting point is 02:57:52 You need a t-shirt for those anyways Oh this is so cool Yeah here we go This is You want to talk about fucking fashion Here we go I'm completely fucking fashion I'm penetrating right now Here we go Transform You want to talk about Fucking fashion dude Here we go Docking I'm completely fucking fashion
Starting point is 02:58:06 I'm penetrating right now Ha Ping Look at this They think I'm walking away Turn it all the way I tried I tried
Starting point is 02:58:18 I tried I tried I tried I tried This show sucks This show sucks. This show sucks. Safe papadiuses, though. This is literally the only thing we know about.
Starting point is 02:58:30 You're right. And calf at this point. I mean, good for the goose, good for the gander there. The only thing we know is this is potentially the only communication we've had publicly from Stefan Diggs. That's right. It involved a shin guard on one leg, not on the other. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:46 What does it mean? And he looks bummed out. Was this for, like, GQ, or what was this for? It was him articulating his feelings. Yeah, with a balloon. Red balloon. We haven't talked about red. What does a red balloon mean?
Starting point is 02:58:54 Red balloon. Oh, it's in the caption. Oh. Usually it means it. No, he's- The clown. Up and away. Just floating.
Starting point is 02:59:05 Yep. Yeah. That's what I think. Just floating, yeah's. The clown. Up and away. He's floating. Yep. Yeah. That's what I think. Just floating, you know. Levitating. Okay. He's above himself right now. That's right.
Starting point is 02:59:12 He's, you know in movies, they have your soul kind of. Yeah. And it looks down on you. Is that a butterfly? Where? Where at? Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 02:59:24 Valley button. No, that's a Bentley logo, isn't it? Bentley. Butterfly where we're at yes it is yes it is belly button That's a Bentley logo It doesn't look like that looks like a moth What AJ smiley zoom in on dude's belly button. I try to see what the... We got tattoos. We're trying to articulate the... Belly buttons are weird, man. You know that. They are weird. What?
Starting point is 02:59:47 Watching my whole daughter go through the whole belly button thing was weird as well. That was a butterfly, though, dude. We think. He's got a smiley face, though, next to his watch,
Starting point is 02:59:56 so maybe he's smiling on the inside. Yeah. Oh, there is a smiley face there. Yeah. Next to the... Smile time.
Starting point is 03:00:04 Next to the white face there, he got the smiley face. Good watch, huh? next to the white face there you got the smiley face good watch huh patches on his jacket maybe he's healed all his scars all right let's go back to the shin pad now let's go into the background of the shin pad here see if we can catch did he bring it or do you think they're like hey here you go strap this thing on he's like yep well that's his closet he actually rolled it to the chute there in the back in there pack how much of that shit do you have all of it? Didn't you wear that last week? That thing? Two in from the right? What is this? What is this
Starting point is 03:00:30 for? Good question. Is this just to articulate his feelings? Because then we've got to start taking it all in. Like the empty thing over there to the left? Yeah. What was that rolling in? What was that rolling in? Was that the Bills Mafia rolling in there and then rolling out empty on the back side? Sitting on a wooden box.
Starting point is 03:00:45 What's that all about? Doesn't like tables? You know, Bills Mafia? What is going on here? This is bad. It's not good. He peed down that bar? Yeah, is that mustard or a bunch of piss?
Starting point is 03:01:00 I think it's a bunch of piss. That's the next fashion trend is that just piss yourself and take pictures. Yellow dong. I think it's already been a trend. You know, people were doing that back in the day. Not unlike the cover of GQ. You don't know. Bro, how cool is that fucking look right there?
Starting point is 03:01:17 Look at that jacket. Could you imagine? I love the shin guard. Could you imagine walking around like that? No. That'd be so cool. Imagine just lumbering in somewhere. You'd have to wear that.
Starting point is 03:01:32 I'm out of here. Turn that right foot. Turn that right foot so we can. I don't know if I can. I hope you try to get that around. People are going to think I'm making this. Yeah. Like crisscross. People are going to think I'm... Yep. A crisscross.
Starting point is 03:01:50 Turn your jeans backwards. I'm going to try, dude. Yeah, people won't even notice. It just looks like I'm looking to my side. Yeah, basically. You know what I mean, AJ? Just looking to my side, dude. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 03:02:03 Thank you. This is not a magic trick. This is for show. Let's get the fuck out of here, dude. Unbelievable. Thank you. This is not a magic trick. This is for sure. Let's get the fuck out of here, dude. Stefan Diggs, is he going to be a bill or not? He has to be a bill.
Starting point is 03:02:12 He's going to be a bill. And it's not, it sounds like it's personal. He's not a fucking love him. Okay. That's what Josh Allen said. Small problem. Just wants him to know it.
Starting point is 03:02:21 Maybe he's back in the building tomorrow. Maybe they're making things better. Hopefully his popularity is okay. And hopefully tomorrow we have a good program. Hell yeah. We've been batting zero since we started this whole thing on good shows. We think tomorrow's going to be the day. They say when you're cold, you're due.
Starting point is 03:02:37 And that means tomorrow's show is about to be better than we've ever had, AJ. Ain't that right, AJ? We are due. Absolutely. I can't wait. Tomorrow we could be talking about a brand new Lord of the Stanley Cup championship. Smell me. Fucking goal, boy.
Starting point is 03:02:47 The Vegas Golden Knights could win their first ever Stanley Cup just one night removed from the Denver Nuggets winning their first ever NBA Finals championship tie. Your prediction on the score this evening as your Vegas Golden Knights since day one go to accomplish something they've never been able to do. Fucking Golden Knights wrap this puppy up. Four to two. Stoner. wrap this puppy up. 4-2, Stoner.
Starting point is 03:03:05 Two goals, maybe an apple. I like Marcheseau to maybe have a goal, and I expect either Jackie Aces or Jonathan Marcheseau to be awarded the consmith as well. Pac-Man, you agree with that take there? 4-2 sounds good to you? Totally agree. Hold on, hold on. We have some breaking news here we have video now of josh allen speaking what he
Starting point is 03:03:29 we read he speaks on twitter now we aren't body language experts okay although they do say 80 of communication is non-verbal communication so our entire lives we are kind of trying to practice being body language experts naturally through our communicating process as humans. Here's Josh Allen answering the questions about Stephon Diggs after practice. Remember, this comes after Stephon Diggs had been in the building. Remember the head coach and the GM. Then he left the building, missed practice. Head coach then says he's very concerned about the situation.
Starting point is 03:04:00 Here's Josh Allen talking about his number one wide receiver and fellow captain of the Buffalo Bills, Stephon Diggs. I know internally we're working on some things, not football related. But, you know, Steph, he's my guy. Excuse me, I fucking love him. He's a brother of mine. Hell yeah. This does not work, what we're doing here, without him.
Starting point is 03:04:24 You know, we wish he was in here today and was out there on the field with us, and that's not the case, but I've got his back no matter what. And again, I've got no doubts that we will figure out what's going on and freaking love him. I can't stress that enough. There's things that i could do better and um you know to help out with this process and uh try to get him back here and and you know be the buffalo abilities that he's meant to be interesting things that i can do better what's
Starting point is 03:04:57 that aj more texting more talking more throwing well we're just a guy that knows he's the leader of the squad he's taking some ownership of the situation, whether he believes that or not. Oh, and he's letting him know, hey, I fucking love you, pal, publicly. Want everybody to know, no matter what you're hearing or thinking, you need to know that Josh Allen loves this guy. Big time. And he said, I got his back no matter what, Pac. That's a big deal.
Starting point is 03:05:17 I'm thinking they haven't talked since last year. That's what I'm getting out of the conversation. Like, hey, I could have done better, or there's things that I can do better. Maybe I didn't reach out. He'd be gone the whole offseason. You know, these wide receivers are very touchy when it comes to feelings. Okay.
Starting point is 03:05:35 That's coming from 14-year NFL corner, Adam Pacman Jones, but a lot of stories have come out from wide receiver rooms in the history of the NFL about potentially not feeling respected or not being appreciated or thinking that things aren't going the right direction. They are a position that is, you know, very important to the success of your team and also very reliant upon somebody else for their success.
Starting point is 03:05:56 It's an interesting dilemma, the mindset that you have to have to be a great wide receiver. You have to be needy. You have to, I want the ball all the time. Because if you're not that guy, you're going to get beat out by the guy that wants the ball all the time because that leads to how hard you work. That leads to everything else you do for the
Starting point is 03:06:11 team. And if you're not getting paid off for all the running you're doing and everything like that, that position does have a history of saying, fuck this. We ain't doing it. Now, we don't know what it is. We heard it's not football related, so obviously it's not the amount of balls. It's something off the field that Josh Allen said he could do better.
Starting point is 03:06:29 The organization seemingly has said that they could do better. What is it? We assume they'll get it figured out. Tomorrow we'll have more updates. That's right. Let's get to a break for about 20 hours or so. Okay? Okay.
Starting point is 03:06:41 Yep. AJ, what are you going to do for the next 20 hours? Are you going to get better today? Oh, yeah. I'm going to get better. Always getting better. What are you going to do for the next 20 hours? Are you going to get better today? Oh, yeah. I'm going to get better. Always getting better. What are you going to do? You're going to wear two shin guards?
Starting point is 03:06:48 No, I was just going to go to play it against sports and probably buy one shin guard there. They're going to say, hey, you need the pair. No, absolutely not. You need four. You can sell me one for the price of two because of how fashionable they are now. Bingo. Yep. Bingo.
Starting point is 03:07:03 I think I'm going to go with the arm one. You know the arm plate? Yeah. I'll do it. I'm going to rock that one, the arm plate. Could you imagine? Like the cross pad. Get the big of the cross pad on your arm.
Starting point is 03:07:12 Imagine you got that thing like iced out too. That'd be sweet. Like in the little crevices. Yeah, set the trend. Maybe wear like a cowboy collar or a neck roll with our street clothes. Oh my God. That would be sick. Some people say they think you do that already yep because the way your fucking neck looks yeah i wish okay that'd be nice that would be cool if you did that why don't we
Starting point is 03:07:35 start wearing cowboy that'd be sweet something to rest your head on too just straight up square one oh yeah oh yeah the brian cox The Brian Cox. Yeah. No, Nick. You can just lean back and fall asleep at any moment. Why don't we just wear football pads? Don't worry. We will soon enough when AI takes over and destroys the world and we live in a post-apocalyptic landscape. We'll be dressed like Mad Max. We'll be wearing football pads.
Starting point is 03:07:56 It'll be great. Okay. Let's get to a break, I guess. Jeez. Whoa. All right, Nick. Don't worry. Thanks, pal.
Starting point is 03:08:02 Great work, boys. Okay. Big thanks. Real downer. Richard Jefferson, Ian Rapport, Stephen A. Smith, obviously, Pac-Man, Nick. Don't worry. Thanks, pal. Great work, boys. Okay, big thanks. Real downer. Richard Jefferson, Ian Rapport, Stephen A. Smith, obviously, Pac-Man, AJ, everything. Thanks for that, Nick. Thank you, Nick. It wouldn't be like that, okay?
Starting point is 03:08:14 If AI wins, it'll be a nuclear winner, and we'll all die slowly. Oh, my gosh, man. Cool. It'll be much different than Mad Max. All right. Everybody have a great day. Let's not think about that. Let's think about that not happening. Not having nuclear sex with an AI.
Starting point is 03:08:29 Let's think about the only bad thing that could happen is not that. It is potentially that your wire receiver is a little bit upset about something. And the reason why that being the worst thing that could happen being a good thing is because that's going to get settled. Humans will get things figured out.
Starting point is 03:08:45 There's never a communication issue whenever somebody's getting paid $24 million and there happen being a good thing is because that's going to get settled. Humans will get things figured out. There's never a communication issue whenever somebody's getting paid $24 million and there isn't a money thing on the problem. No. It's just a human thing. And maybe it was like thinking, oh, they're looking for another number one wide receiver and mine not enough.
Starting point is 03:08:56 Maybe it is like, oh, you should have been more communicative with me this offseason. Maybe it's something we haven't thought of at all that has made Stephon Diggs think to himself, I don't like what's going on here. What the hell? It is not good, though.
Starting point is 03:09:08 No. That he met with the coach, met with the GM. No. We still don't know if that was one meeting or two. Two meetings, worse than one. One meeting, and they met with both at the same time, walked out of not happy. Then Sean McDermott said, I'm very concerned about it.
Starting point is 03:09:20 That is certainly something that I can't wait to hear about what they talked about. Which the world awaits. Richard Jefferson is currently on NBA Live today. He's wearing a sport coat over the hoodie. He looks super Whitworth and cool. Whitworth needs to be the one that puts the cowboy collar
Starting point is 03:09:38 on the sport coat. Because he already has that hoodie there, so the hoodie kind of covers it up. It'll just kind of sit there over the hoodie or under the hoodie. Something to think about. Looks so cool. Thursday night. Something to think about.
Starting point is 03:09:52 That's right. Let's get to a break. 20 hours and 33 minutes. All right? Yep. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Today's a great day because we're alive.
Starting point is 03:10:00 We don't need to be thinking about this artificial intelligence stuff. No, no, no. So next time you guys have a thought like that about us all dying in a terrible fashion, hold it in. Sure. Compress it down. Sit on it until you're not around me. Okay.
Starting point is 03:10:15 Then let it out. Or write it down. Don't keep it inside, though. No. You need to let it out. Yeah. I just would like to choose ignorance as bliss. Sure.
Starting point is 03:10:23 So I'd like to think that it's not going to happen and the smart people will take care of that can't be what I look like I don't need to hear that that's going to be what I look like who's this guy? I look cool me and Stefan Diggs do this all the time he's got a bedazzled cup
Starting point is 03:10:38 that'd be sick this guy looks like the fucking dodgeball team that they got that's not protecting him at all. What is this? What do you mean? What are you talking about? Dude, if anything comes at his dong in those exact spots, his dick is safe.
Starting point is 03:10:54 Shoulder pads, you don't want to meet that man in the hole. Are you kidding me? Bullet can't get through that. Flavor saver because he doesn't know when his next meal is coming? Exactly. What is this thing? Post-apocalyptic. Yeah, post-apocalyptic from Mad Max.
Starting point is 03:11:09 This is the movie you're referring to? This is what you wanted me to look like, Nick? This is what we're all going to look like. I'm not going to look like that. That's just how you survive. The water runs out. AJ, this is what you're going to look like, Nick said. I've never seen this, but I do not plan on dressing like this
Starting point is 03:11:25 what if it's your only means of survival there's no chance that that's the only means there's always another way no that's the way right there you're looking at it bro look at the little mini crossbow on the right hand magic coming in just going with a mini bow and arrow
Starting point is 03:11:39 dead you may actually start this revolution that's an Ohio fuck if I ever see one. So the movie takes place. Yeah. Shoulder pads. That's how we're the Winsbone. That's based off of you, AJ.
Starting point is 03:11:51 That guy's character is AJ Hawk. Yeah, he actually flies a little bit. That is a hawk, isn't it? Same haircut. I better start bedazzling my cup. And your torso. And get a crossbow for your wrist. How about him try to say that he doesn't already bedazzle his cup?
Starting point is 03:12:06 Yeah, we know. Lights, camera, action, pal. The arm pads there, professional wrestler ones, that's like what Kanye's wearing out in a bath right now. Kanye watched Mad Max for the first time? Might have, yeah. He just did the whole naked sushi thing. And I think Kanye is a big Mel Gibson fan.
Starting point is 03:12:30 Is he? That would make sense. Well, based on what Kanye said and what Mel Gibson said, I think you can connect the two. Let's get to a break. Let's get out of here. What did Mel say? Well, okay, we are not covering that.
Starting point is 03:12:48 Mel said some things about some people. He's not the biggest fan. There's a movie. We don't like a lot of that negativity, which once again leads us to, let's worry about fashion. Let's worry about football. Let's worry about the future being bright and not the one that you guys are describing.
Starting point is 03:13:00 Let's talk about wearing shin guards just because we want to, because it looks cool. Not because we have to, because people looks cool. It's not because we have to, because people have little crossbows on their right arm. Let's talk about life being great, because we are just... 86 days.
Starting point is 03:13:12 Away from NFL football. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Goodbye.

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