The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 928 - US Open Recap, Shams Charania, Ian Rapoport, Chris Paul, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about an incredible US Open that saw Wyndham Clark hold on for an amazing victory, why some people didn’t enjoy LACC, all the amazing stories that ...came out of the weekend, Father’s Day weekend as a whole, Jack Jones getting arrested for having two loaded guns in the Boston airport and what the fallout from that might be, all the big NBA news including Bradley Beal being traded to the Suns for a package that includes Chris Paul and other pieces, and everything else happening in the sports world as we are entering an extremely dry period. Joining the show to chat about the Chris Paul/Bradley Beal trade, if Damian Lillard is going to be playing for the Heat, whether or not Zion is going to be traded before the NBA Draft on Thursday, and more is NBA Insider for Stadium and The Athletic, Shams Charania (20:26-40:12). Next, NFL Senior Insider for NFL Network, Ian Rapoport joins the show to chat about the Jack Jones situation, Jordan Love in Green Bay, and everything else happening around the NFL (1:20:39-1:38:55). Later, 12x NBA All-Star, 9x All-NBA, 9X All-NBA Defense, 2006 NBA Rookie of the Year, Chris Paul joins the show to chat about his new book coming out, “61” his immediate thoughts on being traded, his plans for his future after basketball, and what he thinks the next stage of his career looks like (1:50:32-2:01:22). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Juneteenth, 2023, this sports program starts right now. Sports! Our happening in sports are a great depiction of why our society being united as one is such a beautiful thing. We get a chance to witness people from all different backgrounds, all different classes of life, all different ethnicities and religions and everything come together for one common goal in battle. And whenever the world was about to be torn apart by its seams just a couple years ago, whenever there was people riding and literally race riots were taking place in the United States of America a couple years back, all any of us that have ever been involved in the NFL or any
Starting point is 00:00:44 other sport kept saying is we hope that the locker room will ooze out into public because what happens in the locker room is a beautiful place you don't have to agree with somebody on every single facet of life to be able to look at a goal and say hey we need to go ahead and do this and i believe the world is getting much much better than it was in 1865 which is when juneteenth came to be it was in galveston te Texas, whenever Union General Gordon Granger, and I want to say from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, but he's not from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, although Pittsburgh is from the North. Let's remember that. Okay, let's remember that. Gordon Granger rolls into Galveston, Texas to let them know, hey, the North won.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Slaves are free. Two years after, obviously, 1863, whenever it took place, and I do believe from then to now, we have certainly made incredible progress, but we are not done, obviously, 1863, whenever it took place. And I do believe from then to now, we have certainly made incredible progress. But we are not done, obviously. There's a much better world that we all aim to shoot for. And on this Juneteenth, it's not a bad thing, which is a holiday that, fuck, I think we all just learned about within the last couple of years. Oh, yeah. I asked a couple of my very black friends. I said, hey, how come y'all motherfuckers never told me about Juneteenth?
Starting point is 00:01:43 What was in this thing? I feel like an asshole here. The internet's telling me I'm a fucking bad white. You know what I mean? I'm a bad guy. And they're like, well, to be honest, I was just learning about it as well. I said, all right, well, I'm happy that we're all learning about it. Hope that it brings a time wherever we can continue to look to what the future could be, which is perfect.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Although we are gaining strides on that every single day, there's always going to be assholes. But you remember that? Everywhere. Every race. Everywhere there always going to be assholes. But you remember that? Everywhere. Every race. Everywhere there's going to be assholes. We cannot let them be the ones that define us. No, no. We've got to be defined by the majority that are good,
Starting point is 00:02:13 and we keep moving forward to have a good time. Happy Juneteenth. Happy Juneteenth. The Toxic Table is here, obviously, at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Down. Cowboys 10 digits here.
Starting point is 00:02:22 And there was a lot that happened in the sports world this weekend. Hey, listen, this U.S. Open was fantastic. I think that the Internet was cooking the Los Angeles Country Club. And I didn't know that the Los Angeles Country Club was trying to be the Augusta of California pretty much. Now, that would make sense that in the middle of Beverly Hills, sitting on an $8 billion piece of land. Yes, sir. dollar piece of land yeah sir a golf course was able to remain kind of anonymous whenever all the celebrities and influencers and everybody was basically living right on the outside of the entire course we had heard about the playboy mansion do i have any fucking clues on a golf
Starting point is 00:02:57 course called the lacc no idea no cell phones must wear a sports coat after like 6 p.m in the building not allowed to talk about it not allowed allowed to post about it, not allowed to do anything. $250,000 to become a member, but that's only after you're accepted to become a member in which there are not a lot of people that get to do that. I had no idea that was the case. So whenever it started coming out that these guys bought half of the general admission tickets to themselves, it makes a little bit of sense. If you think about it as the Augusta of California. Oh, yeah. This is their first time getting exposed to the world.
Starting point is 00:03:27 You think they wanted a bunch of people just fucking walking all over their place? Absolutely not. People didn't even know we existed for a long time. This is the middle of stars.
Starting point is 00:03:32 This is where everything is kind of made popular. In this place, nobody even knew about it. Right in the fucking middle of Beverly Hills. Debut. Hollywood Hill.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Right there. Golf course. How did none of us see this? Not even allowed to fly a fucking drone or helicopter over top of this thing so they bought up half the general admission they sold all the other stuff to a bunch of corporate people people are saying that the atmosphere and the vibe for us open wasn't good enough although on 18 i think whenever they let them run up to the green and it was completely circled around it wyndham clark had a pretty
Starting point is 00:04:01 good vibe there i actually thought to myself man i, I hope this guy, you know, this is the moment. Yeah. Gets it done. They were telling his story about his mom passing away and how he basically had to quit golf or almost thought about quitting golf forever because how negative everything was. He started at three years old, swinging a stick at six. He had his first hole in one. This is a prodigy. The pressure of golf had been on Wyndham Clark for his entire life, actually. And he almost quit, almost left, couldn't do it anymore after his mom passed away. And here we are. One-stroke lead. 18th hole.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Bunch of yups, Marty Fish included. Circling the green. They were a little chirpy, too. Some of the fans. A little mothy, a little L.A. California mothy. You'd get smacked in a moth if those weren't golfers. Some of you.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Some people are laughing at some people missing putts. Yeah. I wish some of those guys, hey, come here. Ha-pah. Ricky. Right in the fucking moth. There was some chance earlier in the week, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I respect a little, you know, gamesmanship.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Sure. A little jocularity. Yeah, jocularity. But it's golf. It's golf. It's golf. At LACC, nonetheless. But imagine him, one-stroke lead, going onto the green here.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Need to two-putt, long way, 60-some feet or whatever. And that entire place just circles him. And there's him dipping down, and there's going to be a sick photo of just like all of these humans trying to line on the outside of the sand trap, falling, getting pushed into the sand trap. There's going to be a great photo there. And that motherfucker rolls it to a foot. Unreal. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Just the gut sack, the courage, and the ability to kind of compartmentalize nerves and feelings. He was probably thinking about his mom the entire time. And I couldn't even fathom before the tap-in, like, mom, this one's for you almost. Like, I'm getting kind of choked up for it. And then you see him do the entire,
Starting point is 00:05:43 it was, I thought it was a magical moment. I don't know why everybody was kind of bashing it on the internet i loved watching golf this weekend and shout out to me learning about a new golf course and shout out to ricky fowler playing great golf not being able to get it done rory playing great golf not being able to get it done and wyndham clark a guy that i didn't know about but had been trending well going into the u.s open allegedly he was 30th in the world before the open now he's 13th okay so trending upwards obviously nice to learn about him his story and watch golf all fucking weekend ty yeah it was the absolute best and you're right like the the thing that pisses me off about the course is early in the week everyone is talking about you
Starting point is 00:06:18 know like how much they like the course and like oh you know it's not like typical u.s opens this is different this This is good. We're having a good time watching it. And then because the winning score was 10-under, I saw a bunch of people bitching that the 18th hole, the fairway, is 58 yards wide, and that's the biggest. And he needed it. He took that thing from left side, 150 feet, right side.
Starting point is 00:06:43 He went strong side there. But, like, if you look at that course, like, all the stuff around the greens and everything, it was incredibly tough. These guys just played well. And I just hate how, like, when it suits your narrative, you can bash on the course and say it's too easy. And then on Sunday when guys are actually playing. And, like, I mean, shit, we talked about it off air.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Like, Wyndham Clark had that bogey save on the par 5 where he was in that really, really thick stuff. If he gets an 8 there, like everyone expects him to kind of do, he loses the tournament. But he had just time and time again where you thought he was going to falter. He just kept coming up, making big shots. And it's like, I don't know why people can't appreciate that more as opposed to like, oh, the course, it's not difficult enough.
Starting point is 00:07:22 The winner needs to be shooting 3-4 under. Justin Thomas shot an 81. I think it was hard. I, it's not difficult enough. The winner needs to be shooting three, four under. Justin Thomas shot an 81. I think it was hard. I think it was a tough course. I think people had some shots we expected out of the U.S. Open. There were some divots and some duffs and some fluffs and some misses. There was a lot of those all weekend, which is great.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I'm happy they got to show them. I think the commentary too, the way... Oh, yeah. People are killing Paul Azinger. That was interesting. Big time. That kind of sets the mood, though, for everything. Paul's not the most positive guy of all time. Yeah, but that's a terrible shot he's had a couple of times. Yeah, he's had real time. Pretty easy to mute.
Starting point is 00:07:51 It's like, all right, is it? Yeah, but you shouldn't have to mute. I know, I agree. Because a part of golf is the... You know, like the whole... The sound. That is golf, the experience of golf. It's an afternoon nap delight.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Oh, yeah. I don't know. I didn't understand all that. I think people are just so used to Nance and Fado, who are both very, very good, that when they get compared to anybody else, it's hard. Oh, because he does, it sounds like Nance. No. He's good. This guy sounds like
Starting point is 00:08:18 Nance. Dude on the left? The guy that's doing the play-by-play. I think he's on the right. Right side? Yeah, he had a three-piece on. Did you see that? Oh, yeah. Dude, he had three pieces. Looking clean. He did. He sounds like Nance, though, I think, which I don't know if he would take that as a compliment or not. I'd assume so. But I always like, oh, is this Nance getting money
Starting point is 00:08:34 from everybody? I mean, Nance is able to do it. I think it should be. I don't know how he views it. I think he does a great job. But the other one, they were burying the crowd, though. Is it because the crowd was a bunch of, like, you'd hear the assholes more because there wasn't as many people in the crowd? Like. Is it because the crowd was a bunch of, like, you'd hear the assholes more because there wasn't as many people in the crowd? Like, what do you think it was?
Starting point is 00:08:48 I do wonder. Yeah, it feels like they almost made it like the Super Bowl because you always mention how the Super Bowl is a lot of, like, businesses and corporations and people from places to go and watch it. And if that's what the country club was doing, was giving it to those types of people, then maybe it was kind of, you know, sooty, if you will. But also last year in Massachusetts, there were so many clowns out for the U.S. Open last year that it was kind of, you know, sooty, if you will. But also last year in Massachusetts,
Starting point is 00:09:05 there were so many clowns out for the U.S. Open last year that it was no matter what, there was going to be a step down unless they did it at like an Oakmont in Pittsburgh or a town similar to Boston. Yeah, it was a little bit different than Boston. Yeah, a little bit. I didn't think it was that bad, though. I enjoyed watching it.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Shout out to golf carrying us through another weekend. We needed it. Shout out to Father's Day. Shout out to all the dads out there. They got a chance to get celebrated because of something that they played a very little part in, which I shout out. Yeah, shout out. You know, I'm a big fan of that.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Oh, you're sweet. My wife was like, happy Father's Day. I'm like, well, it's because he, you know, this is kind of like. You know what? You're right. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. You're right. I am a father. I mean, without you, literally not possible. Right. Like, and you had to do a lot. But without you, also're right. I am a father. I mean, without you, literally not possible. Right. And you had to do a lot of work. But without you, also not possible. I guess.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I mean, now that we've been through it, you know, I used to say that a lot. I used to be like, hey, don't you forget. Like, you're dead. You're part of this. Yeah. You used to say it to my friends. Not really, though. Once you support system, for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Absolutely. Nurturing, caring. Right. There you go. But boy, us not carrying the baby oh buddy oh yeah mother's day a thousand x i watch a stand-up comedian this week uh this weekend on the instagram i forget his name um he said you know i did the research he said mother's day is the number two celebrated holiday basically in america he said christmas he said mother's day is the number two celebrated holiday basically in
Starting point is 00:10:26 america he said christmas is one mother's day is two so it's jesus then your mama he said your dad 20 yeah and then he started listing off he started listing off harvard day it was like 19 flag day i think was in there somehow president's day it was boom it was just like listed off in this whole thing and And I'm like, I appreciate that that's a fact because at this stage, like yesterday, I was trying to tell my wife, who's been kicking so much ass
Starting point is 00:10:51 this whole thing, I'm like, please do not feel obligated. Like, this is not, we are way too early in this game to be doing this. And she did. And it was cool
Starting point is 00:10:59 to kind of be a dad now. You know, and I got a lot of text messages from a lot of people that I appreciate in my life and people that I look up to as fathers with how they go
Starting point is 00:11:07 about doing their work and being a dad and being able to balance that and judge that. People that I've sent questions to like, hey, when this happens,
Starting point is 00:11:14 should I feel like a terrible human whenever this takes place or whatever? Got a lot of messages, a lot of, hey, happy first Father's Day with full speeches
Starting point is 00:11:20 about what, you know, I should be thinking about and what I need to do so I make sure that I create a part of producing a valuable member to society. You know, not just, it was cool. Yesterday was a cool day that I couldn't have expected, and I hope everybody had an incredible one.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Got to see my old man, made a pizza with the old man. There we go. Yeah, it was a cool day. Good pizza. Yeah, Tim also, you know, his first grandfather's day, I guess Is that a day? Father's day, probably I would assume there's a grandparent's day
Starting point is 00:11:50 Somewhere That's Yeah, that might be 45th That's way Way down in the totem Tim with the baby is awesome to watch You know what I mean? It is really, really cool to watch him
Starting point is 00:12:01 With the baby Because I've never seen him interact, I don't think With anything that is like You know, he didn't have a daughter. Tim's super outdoorsman, trucker. I mean, like, you know, so watching my dad with this little baby girl, whenever she squeezed on his finger and everything, it's just like, it was a cool day yesterday and hope everybody experienced that. And shout out to all the dads and the people whose fathers have passed away i understand they could be a tough 24 hours and a tough kind of remembrance whenever you hear everybody else talk about it celebrate the good times i hope you know i i hate that that is a part of this world and we hate that we have to do it anytime we have to do
Starting point is 00:12:39 a moment of silence we hate it yep we hope we never have to do it again exactly and there's a genuine hope in this room that we never have to do it again for sure i'm not good with dealing with my friends passing i've had numerous friends pass away family members pass away from whenever i'm very young all the way through it i'm not good at it i always just try to channel like what the celebration of that person would be what that person would be like at this situation and i understand that fathers be a little bit different so shout out to all the people who lost their fathers and had to go through the internet yesterday of everybody giving love. But I hope you got a chance to celebrate them in their thoughts,
Starting point is 00:13:11 in their memories, and everything as well. Beautiful weekend. Great weekend. Football started, didn't it? Yeah. Here we go. You know, football happened a lot this weekend. There was some big-time news around that Stephon Diggs conversation.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh, yeah. And then Michael Lombardi jumps in with the fucking Leslie Frazier's out of there because Sean McDermott called the plays for the 13 second drive that led to the loose. And then he told him I'm calling plays again. Leslie Frazier said, I'm not doing that. And then Sean McDermott said, well, you can leave. And then. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And he did. And he left. The Lombo Bombo. That's pretty much what Lombo said, right? Yes. He said, I tell you on my podcast, Thursday, Monday, Sunday, Saturday. The newsletter. He said, I'm like. Throw away Thursday, Monday, Sunday, Saturday. The newsletter. He said, I'm like.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Throw away. We were all like, yeah, just. Yeah. And remember, Leslie just kind of got sick of it and ran out of town. He said, I'm not doing it anymore. And he just leaves. The internet responded this weekend. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Not everybody agreed with Lombo or believed Lombo. No. But that is a story that none of us really talked about ever. When it happened, we was kind of like, oh, Leslie Frazier must be trying to take a break or something. We hoped that nothing happened in his family. That's an added wrinkle to the Stephon Diggs situation that has seemingly been cleared.
Starting point is 00:14:10 They handle adversity well up there. That was proven. Has been proven last year. Multiple times. Seems like they're doing it again this offseason. When is it just going to be smooth sailing up there? It feels like maybe never. It's crazy that the teams they've had haven't gone on to the success
Starting point is 00:14:25 that they were hoping for. Obviously very good teams. But I think it was surprising for all of us because we talked to Bean, we talked to Josh, we talked to Poyer, we talked to McDermott, and the culture feels – Noxie. Noxie, Mitch Morse, Vaughn. Gabe Davis.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Gabe Davis. So many – Micah. So many Bills players. And they all seem to be on the same page. Love it. Yeah, they love it. And everything from the outside looking in, like remember when they were dancing in the snow
Starting point is 00:14:50 before one of the playoff games that they were having? Everything seemed to be perfect for Buffalo. So I think when Lambeau said that, it just was out of left field. And I don't know anybody. It follows the Stephon Diggs. Yeah, true. So it's like three, four days worth of like. Yeah, back to back. What's going on in Buffalo? Yes. So the Stefan Diggs. Right. Yeah, true. So it's like three, four days worth of like. Yeah, back to back.
Starting point is 00:15:06 What's going on in Buffalo? Yes. So the internet has responded. They have said mostly that they don't believe that. I think Lambeau has said that he's a thousand percent sure of that. So we'll have Lambeau on again. Yeah. We will have Lambeau on again at some point.
Starting point is 00:15:19 But this is what he said about the Leslie Frazier situation. And listen to us kind of get like very surprised that he's just dropping this out of nowhere. You know, I think they have a lot of things going on. Let's go back to Leslie Frazier's departure, the defensive coordinator, right? You know, Sean McDermott wants to call the defensive plays. And Leslie Frazier was in charge of that. Now, let's even go further back. 13 seconds in Kansas City, McDermott took over the play calls on that drive
Starting point is 00:15:49 that resulted in a field goal. That didn't sit well with Leslie. The next year, he kept calling the defense. But this year, McDermott wants to call the defense. And Leslie, for whatever reason, he said no. Look, that was the agreement we had. So he decided to leave and take his sabbatical. And so I think there's a little bit of an undercurrent there.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Hey, have you said this publicly before, what you just said there? I said it on my podcast. I said it on my podcast on the GM Shuffle. I said it on, what day? I think Thursday. I think I said it yesterday or Monday. I forget. Yeah, I mean, a lot of different days they could potentially set it there with a lot of different times.
Starting point is 00:16:25 That's the first time I've heard that. That's why you put it on a ticker. So that's real. He just said that out of nowhere. We're hoping everything's okay up there, though. We love the Buffalo Beals, but he said that on Friday, a lot of drawback on the internet. I feel like we're going to become a show of
Starting point is 00:16:41 letting people know how people react to things that are said on this particular program because i know there's going to be some people that will refuse to watch us once the for sure transition to espn happens i understand that there's people that made that abundantly clear there's gonna be a lot of motherfuckers are gonna be watching this show okay true with the layout that is currently still so what we knew was espn espn's youtube yep espn plus what in the espn app right and then we knew there could be some replays on espn 2 espn news espn outrunner that has all been a very fluid conversation still and there's different avenues opening up okay yeah for the good of all parties you know whenever you do a deal with somebody especially if you're
Starting point is 00:17:23 able to kind of have open, flowing communication, and if you're the one doing it too, by the way, it makes it a lot easier to be able to be like, hey, also, this could be a cool thing, I think, for you guys and for us, it would help out. But for the sake of the entire team, so I think we're going to be, I think we're going to be in a lot of places. Love that.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I think a lot of people are going to see us, and I think everything we say is gonna be hurt okay so with that you know there's always gonna be the equal and opposite reaction to things for sure and i can't wait to have to do what we have to do we just did right there where we're like hey we're just letting you know the person that told us that does not give a fuck what you say at all one thousand percent sure of it and he'll probably be on this week again to reiterate the fact or with more facts. And I can't wait for that entire dynamic with our show. Just being on a constant one of these.
Starting point is 00:18:11 You know, because we are a crew that gives in a lot. And if we're wrong, we'll say it. Of course. We've been wrong. Yeah. Many times. All the time. A couple times, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I mean, there's a lot of times where we have to be wrong because we're giving four different examples that if one of them is, the other three are wrong. Yep. Exactly. So we're wrong all the time. We will admit it. But when we feel good about something, we're going to probably dig our heels. Yeah, get loud about it.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah, we are. Could have potentially happened with a guest that we're maybe going to have today. Will not be having I don't believe. And the other thing about Lombardi, potentially having. Hey, that's a whole other thing. You people burying us about being sellouts and everything, I understand why you're saying what you're saying
Starting point is 00:18:51 because it feels like you understood how where we're going into works a little bit better than maybe I did with some of the people. Like people that are publicists for people, trying to book people on shows. Those conversations, I had no idea how those went between publicists and show hosts.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I will let everybody know, though, that the way they might have once sounded, they will never sound like that again, at least here with us. Yeah, in this building. It will be a detriment to our show, though. We will lose out. Well, some guests.
Starting point is 00:19:23 We will lose out on some guests because of sure but i ain't ever having somebody say you're allowed to ask one thing about this you're allowed to ask one thing about this and then we need four things about this that's not real how's that happen how has that been accepted how does that person even think they're allowed to fucking do that to somebody that hosts the show and has their own interview and has their name on the fucking show that's good i don't even know how that has become a thing but i know for the good of everybody i'm gonna try to stamp that out so the next generation doesn't have to expect that as something that is real because it's not that is not real you've never done an interview you're booking somebody in an interview you are booking
Starting point is 00:20:03 somebody into a conversation. You suck at conversation. I would assume when people talk to you, they think to themselves, you're a bad conversation. So why do you think you should be driving conversation for anybody? And that's a conversation we had this morning. It wasn't the first or the last
Starting point is 00:20:20 time. Nope. Which is no. Sorry about it. This is a new norm. Joining us now, new norm. This guy is the NBA insider of tomorrow. Hell yeah. He is from the stadium, the athletic, Fandle TV,
Starting point is 00:20:36 and I believe he owns SeanSharanyaLunch.com. He does. An absolute dog who's incredibly handsome, who has all the news and inside information for the association that had some big breaking news this past weekend ladies and gentlemen sham shiraya shams what's going on oatmeal today type of day that's the type of day it is this week next week we're putting forks in the oatmeal today hard hat lunch pail what fork in oatmeal hell yeah absolutely love it chums
Starting point is 00:21:06 there's a lot going on let's dive into the biggest news of the weekend although i heard that draymond green just maybe broke some news as well we'll get into that afterwards chris paul allegedly has been traded from the suns to the wizards for bradley beal and some other pieces now chris paul was allegedly the reason why the deal was held up because I was told that he is going to play in Phoenix or Los Angeles. So I'm getting traded to D.C. was a wild part of this entire thing. What do we know? How do we get here? Beals go into the Suns. What else do we know? Is that is that PM sources right now? Just just just drop them. No, that was Wendy. Wendy said that. Wendy said that last week on the program.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Wendy, have you ever talked to him? Do you know each other? I do know Brian Windhorst. Brian Windhorst holds a special place in my heart. Hell yeah. I feel like he found me early. That's all I'll say. He found me early. Hell yeah. Wow, hey, Wendy. He came in here and did an entire tribute speech to A.J. Hawk, first thing he said, so he won us over quickly, but he said that he believes chris paul would only play in phoenix or la where his family is so when he gets traded
Starting point is 00:22:08 to washington i think we're all pretty surprised what do we know where are we going yeah i mean it's sensible i mean either he was going to go back to phoenix on a minimum contract or he was end up going to the lakers or the clippers and that pathway is still open so yeah beal gets traded uh for chris paul landry shammett two guys that were not going to be back on the sun so the sun's basically got bradley beal for a handful of second round picks as well as a couple draft pick swaps so not a bad deal i mean on paper it looks like a no-brainer um but for for the wizards their hands were really tied because brad beal had a no trade clause in the nba there have been i think 10 players in league history ever to have a no trade clause.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So that essentially let Bradley Beal pick his destination. And they had, the Wizards had better offers, but they ended up going with, with the sons. That's where Bradley Beal wanted to be. He chose that team and everyone recruited him. Matt Ishby,
Starting point is 00:23:00 the owner, James Jones, the president of the team, Frank Bogle, the head coach, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, all hitting them up, all telling him we want you in phoenix and he ends up going there now chris paul his future is a little bit more up in the air because now the one thing is i think pat chris paul is the big winner in all this he gets he was only guaranteed 15 million
Starting point is 00:23:18 for next season now he's guaranteed his full 30.8 million. So yesterday was a $15 million day for Chris Paul on top of the 15 he already had owed to him. So I feel good about Chris. For Washington? I think we should all feel good. Well, whoever, either Washington will pay him out or whatever team they trade him to will give him that full $30.8 million. So if he just got waived by Phoenix, he would have only ended up with $15 million. So, you know So on this show We love when people get paid
Starting point is 00:23:47 So Chris Paul yesterday got his $30 million In the bank And I think now what you're going to see is the Wizards are going to talk to the Clippers I think they're going to talk to the Warriors They're going to talk to a couple teams here And see if there's a fit for them If there's a trade potentially that can get done for Chris Paul To go back to the West Coast
Starting point is 00:24:02 Okay well congrats on the $30 million Chris I believe he's got a book coming out as well. Good luck on the book launch. I'm excited for him for that whole thing. So in Phoenix, it'll be Devin Booker running point there. Bradley Beal will be shooting guard. How will that whole thing work, or do you think they bring in a point guard to kind of distribute to all the shooters?
Starting point is 00:24:19 A lot of weapons there now all of a sudden, right? A lot of guys that take a lot of shots. A lot of weapons for sure, and DeAndre will be your fourth best player on this team and we'll see if he's going to be there i do think one thing pat that has happened since this trade is phoenix has been getting a lot of calls on deandre in the last uh 12 to 18 hours teams seeing if now deandre is a little bit more attainable so we'll see if he going to be back on the team or not next year. But as of right now, I do think Devin Booker is going to play a lot of time at point guard. But there's a weird flexibility with this team.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I mean, Devin Booker can bring the ball up. Bradley Beal can bring the ball up. Kevin Durant can bring the ball up. Like these guys are all playmakers. Frank Vogel. Matt Ishbia. Matt Ishbia was point guard on Michigan State. Boom.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Could he? Hell yeah. Player, owner. Jackie Byr State. Boom. Could he? Hell yeah. Player, owner. Jackie Byrne. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk out of my face. Get the funk. Get the gorilla out there maybe.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Oh, hey, I saw a highlight reel of that motherfucker on the internet this weekend. He is a dog. Oh, yeah. Now they posted a picture of me with my eyes closed. Yeah. Completely, you know, it was not my greatest day, but I was in altitude. What's the reason for that? Bright flash.
Starting point is 00:25:28 You were blinking. It was late at night. It was late at night. I was tired. I was tired. It was mid-break. Well, and also, like, the way Ishpia runs his business, you know, they brought in one of those big lamplights.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Uh-huh. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like DJ Khaled had when he was jumping off his boat this weekend. I don't know if you saw that. He had another little boat that had a lamplight on it. That's real. That happened this weekend.
Starting point is 00:25:49 That's awesome. It was sick. I love that. But that's what Ishbia did. Ishbia brought in their social media. I've never seen it before. I'm like, holy shit. Is this the 30s or is this the most awesome thing of all time?
Starting point is 00:25:59 14 lamplights. So when that photo went, and the gorilla's obviously not going to get it. It was bright. Also, I was high as fuck, Sean. You buried the lead. Yeah, also bright, bright, bright flag. Very bright. Okay, let's stay in the West, though. You just broke news.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Draymond Green declining his $27.5 million player option to rejoin the Golden State Warriors. That's via Cl sport ceo rich paul telling sham sharanya so he's going to get more money than that or he's just looking to go somewhere else because the young crew and he are actually fist fighting each other so much so that steph curry has to say if you want to fucking wing it on the bus if you don't stay off what is the deal here where's he go so it's a little bit more of a formality
Starting point is 00:26:46 because this is what's going to happen with Draymond Green. He's going to get a more lucrative contract, more years. The Warriors want to re-sign Draymond Green to a multi-year contract. I reported that right after the Warriors season ended. I think when the punch happened last year, there was a lot of talk. Is this the end for Draymond Green with the Warriors, et cetera? Are they going to run it back? The Warriors want to bring Jeremiah Green back.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I think you're looking at a multi-year deal for Jeremiah Green, potentially to go back. I don't know if it will reach $27.5 million per year, but he's going to be in line for a lucrative deal. The thing is, though, is between now and free agency, when it begins June 30th, July 1, there's other contenders that are going to come into competition with the Warriors for Draymond Green.
Starting point is 00:27:28 We know statistically he's not going to put up double-doubles, and he's not going to be a guy that's going to wow you statistically. But this is a guy that we know, four-time champion. He does a lot of stuff in terms of leadership. He does a lot of stuff on the court that goes beyond the stat sheet. And you know what I'm curious about? Which young team takes a run at Draymond Green, a guy that can really come in and change
Starting point is 00:27:49 the culture? He's one young team with talent. I'm curious to see who ends up coming up. So Dylan Brooks is trying to be Draymond Green. Allegedly. That's what everybody's telling me. I don't know Dylan Brooks personally, aside from the fact he had a nice black tank top on and it seemed like to be a very well-dressed man who pissed off every human on earth.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yep. And then he also made LeBron James go bananas as if he was 24 years old again. Yep. That's what I know about Dylan Brooks. They say he could be that Draymond Green type guy, though. So you're saying Draymond Green to Memphis. Is that what you're saying? I'm saying, I mean, Memphis is the mold, for sure,
Starting point is 00:28:25 of the type of team that I think Draymond Green, I mean, think about it. If you're young, you're up and coming, you've got leadership voice potentially on your roster. I mean, Draymond Green, you can slide him in. I mean, Sacramento, they just lost to the Warriors. A team like, I'm not saying the Kings have interest, but like that's the mold of a team young up and coming has
Starting point is 00:28:45 a lot of potential and if you're able to slide him in we've heard damian lillard talk for years about wanting to play with jaymond green and so i'm just saying there's a lot of potential for jaymond green i think in this marketplace either going back to the warriors on a fresh new contract and i think jaymond green he's he spoke right after the season ended i want to retire with the warriors i'm gonna be here the rest of my career but now you're you're a free agent we'll and I think Draymond Green, he spoke right after the season ended. I want to retire with the Warriors. I want to be here the rest of my career. But now you're a free agent. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:29:10 All right, well, good luck to everybody. I hope Draymond Green gets another massive deal. Love seeing players get paid, Sean. Love seeing it. His podcast is great, too. Going to get paid for that. For sure. Speaking of podcasts, Ben Simmons, who runs Spotify's sports podcast and is one of their executives, it came out that Zion, okay, from a good source of Ben Simmons,
Starting point is 00:29:27 Zion would not be on the Pelicans by Thursday is what his source is telling him inside the New Orleans Pelicans facility. We've heard a lot of rumblings here, and obviously you said maybe Brandon Ingram to Charlotte is more of a conversation than Zion last week whenever we chatted with you. But since then, I've seen the internet say, Pelicans and Zion don't really have any communication right now. There's a lot going on with Zion, obviously. And this too shall pass, pal.
Starting point is 00:29:52 You'll be okay. Do everything right from here on out. This will just be a little blip in the entire radar. Don't even worry about it. Legacy could still be fantastic. But now we're here and he's not even talked to him. Maybe he'll go to somewhere. What is going on with Zion and why by Thursday?
Starting point is 00:30:05 Is that a date that we need to know? Well, Thursday is the NBA draft. And the Pelicans, like we talked about, they want to draft Scoot Henderson. And the only way they can draft Scoot Henderson is if they get into the top two or three. So if you want to get that high, you're going to have to give something up. They have pick 14. That's not going to be high enough. They have a bunch of future first but to my knowledge, Charlotte, Portland, they're not looking for a
Starting point is 00:30:31 package of pick 14 and future first. So Brandon Ingram would be a conversation starter for sure. I'm a little less sure about Zion Williamson. But listen, to my knowledge, they haven't formally offered Zion Williamson. They haven't formally offered Brandon Ingram. I think but you there's a realization with the Pelicans that if you're going to get that high up to go get a Scoot Henderson, you have to give up one of those two guys. And I think the Pelicans aren't there yet. And Zion Williamson has been around the facility.
Starting point is 00:30:59 He was there last week. He's met with David Griffin. He's met with Gail Benson ownership over the last few weeks. There's been regular communication on that level. But listen, it's the offseason. Guys are always going to be scattered. Listen, I think any time the Pelicans season ended the way it ended, you have to be flexible.
Starting point is 00:31:21 You have to be thinking about all these names. And they didn't reach the goal that they wanted last season. So that's the byproduct of what we're seeing now. Connor has a question for you. Shams, another team that didn't reach their goal, the Boston Celtics. Oh! Oh! Sorry about it.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Oh! They lost their eighth seed. Yeah. I don't want to give you the Shaq treatment today. Oh, shut up, John. The Southeast is going to break up their team. I'm seeing a lot of reports that are saying not Jalen, not Tatum, but maybe Smart is on the move.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Maybe some of the other role players they have. Is that a realistic possibility? And if they are, who would they be going after? I would look at their backcourt. I think there's clearly a little bit of a glut there. I think they'd love to keep Marcus Smart. I think that's a guy that, as far as leadership, he's part of the core there. But in terms of Derek White, Malcolm Brogdon, that's really the only route to get better.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I mean, if you're going to add your frontcourt, I don't know about the future of Grant Williams. There's a lot of interest in Grant Williams. He's going to be a restricted free agent. So I'm curious to see where Ho wind up in restricted free agency. But overall, I would look at, if they're going to make a move,
Starting point is 00:32:32 it's going to be a backcourt guy, potentially, and then trying to upgrade in the frontcourt. Ty? Shams, what about Damian Lillard? We saw a lot of stuff coming out that's saying Jimmy Butler's recruiting him to go to the Heat. It almost seems like that's kind of a done deal. He's kind of been adamant that he doesn't want to leave Portland for a long time, but everyone's kind of said, like, hey, this guy needs to get the hell out of there
Starting point is 00:32:51 because they're not doing what they need to do to kind of maximize his potential. Is him going to Miami kind of a done deal, it seems? I mean, not a full done deal, but, I mean, listen, if Damian Lillard got out of Portland and if there was a trade to be had, there were destinations, no question Miami would be at the top of them, just like it was for Brad Beal. Their team, we saw what happened in the finals. I do think they believe they're one piece away, one major piece away. And so from everything I've heard, Damian Lillard would be at the top of their list
Starting point is 00:33:20 if he becomes available. That's the question. But right now, it's really up to Portland. Dam Damon Lillard has really left it up to Portland. He wants to be there. He wants that team to get better. So they have the number three pick in the draft. They have the number, I think, 23rd pick in the draft. They have Anthony Simons. What can you go get in the marketplace to make this team better? And if nothing comes about, then I do think Damon Lillard will have to look very hard at his future in Portland. But if they do make the team better between now and Thursday and on Thursday night,
Starting point is 00:33:50 then I think you'll see Damian Lillard be there. So as much as I think people want to make Damian Lillard, it's really on Portland. Balls in Portland's court. Yeah, it is. Right here, they're doing this. Don't be scared to dribble it out, okay? You're afraid. Why are you afraid?
Starting point is 00:34:04 Come on. You've got Damian Lillard right there. Third pick, Brandon Miller, the kid from Alabama. How about Damian Lillard say, go ahead, do it. Make the team better. Thursday. Please, get it done. It's also hard not to pick one of those guys, though.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I mean, Brandon Miller, those are high-level talents. And so if you're Portland, you have a guy that's on the other side of 30, clearly looking to compete and contend. If Portland's not on that trajectory, listen, publicly they're saying all the right things. We'll see. I mean, actions always speak louder than words, and we're going to see in the next few days. Hey, three guys allegedly going to be guys in the NBA. Is this a normal draft class happening on Thursday, obviously?
Starting point is 00:34:38 You know what's crazy is I've heard more activity in this year's draft than in years. As far as teams trying to move up, teams trying to get high picks. The amount of players that I've heard being offered for top picks or being in discussions for top picks, I think is definitely more star players that have been offered or discussed to be offered. I mean, it's definitely more than the years past. Well, that's because that new CBA with the player tax where if you keep them on team, you're going to have to pay some sort of blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:35:06 It feels like it's almost kind of pushing for your third, fourth guys to almost be on the move a little bit more. Build around top two. We shall see. I don't want to go into the weeds of your sport, but can if I need to. Tone has a question for you, Sean. Sean, I just saw from ESPN's Tim McMahon that potentially Jaws,
Starting point is 00:35:23 Camp, and Jaw feel that the NBA and the media are out to get them. That can't be fucking right, right, right? It can't be fucking right? That can't be right. Fucking right. I haven't heard that, but listen, I mean. Well, you just dunked on Tim McMahon?
Starting point is 00:35:39 Whoa, Sean. Whoa, Sean, he works at ESPN. Yeah, biting off a little more than he can chew. God, thanks for making it easy for us going over there, Sean. I'm just saying I haven't heard that. But listen, you look at the incidents that have taken place. You had a couple incidents last summer in Memphis. You had the high school kid.
Starting point is 00:35:58 You had the laser being pointed in your city in Indianapolis. You have the video in the strip club in Denver with the vanishing of the gun. What's wrong with that? Sounds like you're part of the problem. He's allowed smack cheeks out here, they said, but tell him not to be reckless with the gun. Is that four?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Is that four incidents? I mean... You're part of the problem. That's why you're not getting in. That's why Tim McMahon's getting in. Because you're part of the problem. Sue him. I'm's getting the information. Because you're part of the problem. I'm just saying there's been four incidents. That's all I said.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So we all agree. We're on your side. Him. For three of us. Come on, bro. It can't be one or the other because if the NBA is out to get you, they would give you more games than 25 games. The amount of memes I saw about David Stern with that.
Starting point is 00:36:40 The bottle where he spits it up with what Adam Silver did, what he would have done. And then on the other side, the media, it's either one or the other. The NBA would give you more. Media thinks you should have got more. So it can't be both are against you. One side or the other would be against you.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Feels like he's talking about this guy. Yeah, for sure. I don't think the NBA is against Jha because I think the NBA knows, hey, NBA is better with Jha, but hey, Bub, 30% of the season, $10 million in payment. You're going to be out. Let's figure it the fuck out. Hopefully he's able to do that. That's a stat that comes
Starting point is 00:37:12 from Shams. Last question for me, Shams, and I would like this to be, you know, because I just heard Adele's boyfriend, Rich Paul, is the one who gave you the information about Draymond Green on the thing. Interesting. And I don't want to set fire to the rain, but I do need to know, okay, what's LeBron all about? How come he can't just take what Michael Malone said as a hilarious thing that took place in proper context, where Conor
Starting point is 00:37:37 asked him about it, brought it up, he makes a joke, he moves on. LeBron, you know who I am a massive fan of, I actually commented on this thing, hell yeah. When he said in Europe for the last past few weeks, minding my business, and I hear I'm on your mind that much, huh? I mean, I guess I see why. He looks good in this photo. But wave the flag on these lames. Please make being player cool again,
Starting point is 00:37:59 because the lame machine is at an all-time high. Enjoy your life, but just know I'm the son. Hey, bar. Yeah. He needs to start talking shit like that. He needs to start using that one more. We need an album. We need an album is what we need.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. He does lyrics to every song, too, so his own would be fucking awesome. So good. He said, I stay on forever. Wink, salute, pray hands, king. We got a lot of respect for LeBron over here. But also, like, I mean, can't just let. We got a lot of respect for LeBron over here.
Starting point is 00:38:29 But also, like, I mean, can't just let this guy have a little fun? Can't just let this guy pass? LeBron and Michael Malone, Michael Malone very close, though. So I will say that. They have a good relationship. LeBron's praised Michael Malone in the past. I mean, listen, anytime LeBron's in offseason mode, you know you're going to get some bars. You know you're going to get some nice speeches on the gram.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I'm here for it. I'm here for Michael Malone. I'm happy for Michael Malone. I just chalk it up to two people that, you know, like to have a little bit of fun in the offseason. Oh, yeah, that's what we wish LeBron would have done. It feels like that was not, you know, that felt like he was actually mad. He was actually mad about Michael Malone did. It's like, yo, you're fucking LeBron.
Starting point is 00:39:07 You are LeBron James. Who cares? You're like top three all time, all time in everybody's conversation. You know, I'm thinking, I'm thinking one just personally, but we're playing two different sports. Him and Michael Jordan playing two different sports. You know what I mean? There's guys dribbling like this in that last dance documentary.
Starting point is 00:39:24 For sure. They haven't figured out basketball as well as they have basketball now. Impossible to judge the two. The absolute same. Michael Jordan would be great now. LeBron would be great then. Two different sports. The best.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Top two, my eyes. But there's other people that put in Wilt and everybody else. Yeah, Will Russell. And everything else that takes place. So, you're LeBron James, though. Let Michael Malone have this drunk as fuck moment and then just keep it moving. He took it personally, almost.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Look out for LeBron in 2024. That's all he needed. He needs motivation. He needs motivation. This is the Utah restaurant. I think he was joking, though, LeBron. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, the insider for FanDuel TV, the Athletic and Stadium, a man who's Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, the insider for Fando TV,
Starting point is 00:40:05 the Athletic and Stadium, a man who's on it all the way up to the draft on Thursday night, which we knew about, Sean Geronimo. Yay! We missed that. So that's on Thursday? Yeah, I forgot about that. We would have caught up Wednesday. Yeah, we would have figured it out.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, because the amount of clips about Wemby that is just going to be on the internet. Oh, yeah. Probably starting today, I guess. Yeah, definitely. That will be on the internet. Oh yeah. Probably starting today, I guess. Yeah, definitely. That'll be a conversation on NBA Today Live. So, they were talking about this on TV. They wouldn't want to announce the Joss suspension on
Starting point is 00:40:34 the week of the draft. So, like Monday, today. The NFL would. The NFL would be like, okay, we'll announce suspension, then we'll showcase who Wemby is, then we'll have our draft, and on Friday, by the way, we'll announce suspension. Then we'll showcase who Wemby is. Then we'll have our draft. And on Friday, by the way, we'll look back on the suspension
Starting point is 00:40:49 and the whole week that was. Like, that's how the NFL just takes over every fucking day. People on TV that seem to know the NBA a little bit better were like, they don't want to drop the suspension on what's supposed to be a celebration week. I respect it. Dropping it out last week, smart play, I guess. Smart play, kind of get it hidden, but it's still going to be a conversation piece all week.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Oh, yeah. Oh, offseason's going to be a conversation piece, especially with what you were saying there. You asked a question about Shams from a Tim McMahon report on ESPN. Jha and his team are literally saying that? What do you mean? I didn't know that he was saying that. He said the tweet was that he said that he heard that Jha's camp
Starting point is 00:41:22 and Jha were saying that the media and NBA were out to get them. So maybe like in-house just trying to make each other feel better? Yeah. You know, they're sitting in their house like, ah, they're fucking us. I can't actually think that, right? No, but I'm saying like maybe it's just a personal conversation that was happening to try to get everybody through the situation that they're in. Like, we know they're going to, you know they're going to say this on TV.
Starting point is 00:41:41 You know the NBA is going to have to make a statement. Like maybe they're just trying to like personally get through it. And somebody that was in that personal conversation was like, listen to what they were saying publicly about the whole thing. So context matters there. But they need not be saying that. No, not at all. They need not be saying that at all.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I've heard indirectly that John has people close and people close to John. Perhaps people formerly close to John. Oh, the people that are filming him with a gun. Have this feeling that the NBA out to get them feeling that the NBA is out to get them, that the media is out to get them. So maybe this is before this incident too. So maybe after his cheeks in Indiana Pacer laser and anything else where he got into a fight,
Starting point is 00:42:15 maybe all those events is when they were talking about the NBA media out to get him. Because maybe now after this last event where he's just recklessly brandishing a gun while driving. Unless you're allowed to have a gun. Okay? Not in Massachusetts. Yeah, depending where you go. Not in Massachusetts. In an airport. Not in any airport.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah, any airport. Unless you work there as a person who's supposed to have a gun. You can get guns. You can ship them. Yeah. Check them. Check guns. Yeah, before. No, no. You can go in. Check them. You have to get it certified yeah before yeah yeah no no you can go in check them you have to get it uh certified and everything like that yeah so you can have guns in area not a carry-on yeah not not like through the security not fully loaded yeah loaded two of them no yeah
Starting point is 00:42:56 in massachusetts can't do that yeah massachusetts is like one of the harshest states in the whole thing anyways but back to uh. Maybe they did feel like, and now he's actually feeling remorse about it all, and maybe he'll change. And maybe this will be the last time that we have to say, Ja's being an idiot. And then whenever he stops doing that, it's going to be a feel-good story. You hope that because he is so young that
Starting point is 00:43:17 there are so many more years going forward where he can completely flip this narrative. To what Sean said, a guy like Draymond Green coming in for those first 25 games without Ja will be pretty huge. But when he says the media, does he include all the memes that are being sent around? Because those aren't technically media.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Those are just in good fun and they're funny. Those are just humans. Yes. With access to the internet and creative brains. Yes, and loud. There's some terrible memes out there. Absolutely. There's bad jokes on the internet all over the place.
Starting point is 00:43:47 There's bad jokes in stand-up comedy clubs. But then whenever you see the good ones, you know, the sun isn't as bright if it isn't for the darkest dawn. That's right. So we need the shitty memes and the shitty jokes on the internet to showcase how good the good ones are. With Jaws case, it did feel as if it was an all-star game of memes makers. Yeah. And they all came out in one. Jaws case, it did feel as if it was an all-star game of memes makers.
Starting point is 00:44:07 They all came out in one and boy, they were really going back to back. Back to back. NBA memes are normally pretty good. Their all-star team over there on NBA Twitter, boy, some of the best on the whole.
Starting point is 00:44:21 They can play. They are at the top. They play all four seasons. 82 games. Yeah, and they're marathoners too. They are sprinting marathoners. They're on the internet all the time. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It is. There isn't a take that isn't getting got. Nope. By the highest of brains. Oh, yeah. For the internet. We should give a little shout out to that, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:43 NBA Twitter, shout out. Keep it going, NBA Twitter. Keep it going. Seriously, it is the best. We should give a little shout out to that, actually. NBA Twitter, shout out. Keep it going, NBA Twitter. Keep it going. Seriously, it is the best. We truly appreciate you. Sometimes our clips will get in there. Just hang on. You're about to go on a ride. I'm getting cooked by 15 different people. But then there's a couple that put us over and make me feel
Starting point is 00:44:58 good. Oh, yeah. As they should. It's a great part of Twitter. Congrats, NBA Twitter. Way to go, NBA. Love you, NBA Twitter. And there's people saying Twitter was going to die. You think fucking NBA Twitter was going to let Twitter die? Well, they were saying that this weekend, too. They'll put the goddamn app on their back if they have to. Yes, they will.
Starting point is 00:45:13 And they have. And they have. Yeah. And they have. And they have. To your point about Jot, too, though, like, he's lucky he didn't get 50 games. Like, he had two massive fuck-ups get two strikes in like three months like i i understand he's young he's the face but like the way adam silver was talking like this
Starting point is 00:45:32 this should be a wake-up call it's like no one's out to get you dude but if you fuck up again like you're screwed yeah i mean it's just as simple as that and hopefully repercussions are understood right sometimes people just never get it you know there's a bunch of people that have been out there with what ifs because they make decisions that are poor continually and continually and continually. If you've ever played in any sport at a high level, you've seen a lot of guys that have been incredibly talented, have all of the things that you could potentially need to become a superstar,
Starting point is 00:45:59 to have generational wealth at a sport. You could have it. Just makes bad decisions. Just can't do it right. That's actually a thing. Can't do right. Like it is, hey, this guy right here has every gift in the world. Other people are envious of the things
Starting point is 00:46:14 that this human has and can do. But this person doesn't even realize that it's a gift. Has no idea that other people would dream of having what they have until it's normally too late. So whenever they're making some decisions or other, I mean, fuck degree i mean i was walking around drunk on a tuesday in the middle of football she's doing that sure i have one of 32 jobs there's people that wish that they could bomb a ball the way that i was bombing it and we're training year
Starting point is 00:46:36 round and i was treating it as if it was just some fucking thing that i was lucky to have i had to have that moment on october 20th 2010 i do believe i had to have that moment on October 20th, 2010, I do believe. I had to have that moment to kind of make me realize, like, okay, this will all go real wrong real quick. Fast. And then, boom, you change. That's why after the first public incident with Ja, he doesn't change, you get a little bit worried. But not everybody can change after one big incident.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Sometimes it takes a couple. We have Pac-Man Jones on the show every single week. There's a guy that was given numerous opportunities, had to be given numerous opportunities, and now I think anybody that's known him since he's like 17 years old 18 years old through now incredibly proud of the human that he has become but had to hit a rock bottom had to lose some stuff and had to change his ways or he'd just be another motherfucker out on the street i mean that shit happens all the time we hope jaw isn't the next one on that list now there's a guy up in new
Starting point is 00:47:24 england that might oh man, man, I know. Hey, this is not good. No, at all. So if you did not see this weekend, JJ. Jack Jones. Jack Jones, corner for the New England Patriots. A man who took back a pick six against Aaron Rodgers this past season. Incredible talent.
Starting point is 00:47:39 He's on the New England Patriots defense. Very young, playing meaningful minutes. Bill Belichick believes in his ability. That means we should believe in his ability. He is an absolute dog on the football field this past weekend. He got arrested at Logan International, which is Boston's, I believe, for attempting to bring two firearms on plane. Two of them loaded, 10 bullets in each magazine.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I believe that is another part of the law in the entire thing. Massachusetts carries a two-and-a 20 year mandatory sentence if found guilty or with public without a license and especially at the airport or whatever unchecked now there's people that take bags grab them quick boom run to the airport my fear used to be especially now with how it's legal in some states not legal in other states is I'm going to have in a side pocket somewhere. I'm going to have a bunch of edibles in there that I just stuffed in while I was in Colorado. And as soon as you put it onto the conveyor belt and it starts rolling, it gets out of reach. You immediately go, oh, I got weed in there.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Oh, my God. Happened to me in England coming back from the international game against the Jacksonville Jaguars when I found out very late into the bus ride from the stadium to the airport there called Heathrow International that we were flying commercial and not charter. That means we were going through their TSA. We were going through the entire thing. So the story's been documented. I had like 15, 20 edibles because I had a bunch of things for everybody.
Starting point is 00:49:05 There was a cop sitting up in the front by the garbage can of the bus. So I was kind of in a bad spot. So literally, as soon as I put the thing up on a conveyor belt, I have a few hundred milligrams rolling through my body, obviously. We just lost the Jacksonville Jaguars. I put the thing up on there. It starts going. I immediately go, oh, no, there's a whole other batch, potentially,
Starting point is 00:49:25 in another little side thing. This is about to be international now yeah right this international thing i've seen locked up abroad which is almost all drug smuggling things they go through there they pull my bag they pull my oh no i'm going to jail i'm starting to trip balls too i'm in a few hundred milligrams yeah obviously that's gonna happen so vinatari i'm like yo yo this might be real bad and vinny watched me eat all of those things at the same exact time so he's kind of riding wave with me he's it out there at sea level i am obviously much much much much higher for this entire thing they pull my bag oh no vinny i think even starts to get worried but cool vinny clutch this guy of all time he's like we're all right buddy we're all right buddy we go over there turns out it was just some toothpaste thing going on with it, whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:05 They pull that. They throw it away. Big laughs. Zipper that thing up. We're going to our gate. At that moment, I could have been fucking arrested for international smuggling, so many different things. Think of the headlines that that could have been. So that does happen, I think, where people forget that they have something in their bag.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Two guns is a tough thing to forget that you have in your bag strictly because how heavy it would fucking be and also you're gonna bump into that accidentally whenever you're putting something in there so this is gonna be a tough one for him to explain in the worst state no one of the worst top five yeah one of the worst top five worst states to have this happen for and this guy's career is probably fucked because of this and i am incredibly bummed that the nfl is potentially going to lose out on a talent like this guy yeah it's super sad like as a patriots fan obviously you want him to be on the field especially when up until this point everyone was talking about you know christian gonzalez the first round pick we had paired with jack jones we would have a pretty
Starting point is 00:51:03 elite secondary and he already was one of if not the best player in our secondary last year. But then the other fact of it is what you're saying too, which is kind of where I went, is that he's a 25-year-old kid. He hasn't really hit even his full potential, and he's already so good at football, and now this happens. I think he had a $30,000 bond, so he's out. But he has to obviously go to court this week, so we probably will hear more of the legal side of it.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And the Patriots, you know, they released a statement, but they're still waiting to gather more information. But all signs are pointing to it just being very, very bad. And unfortunately, this tweet was also kind of making its rounds, and people were making their jokes, but it really just is a terrible situation for Jack Jones. Yeah, Jackones tweeted to jaw like hey it's dumb to be flashing your gun social media is like ruining you get your money and everything like that you the breadwinner you got to start acting like that and i believe because we didn't know that jack jones was potentially walking
Starting point is 00:51:58 around with two guns he was sticking to his words yeah yeah right i think we do know that now with that being said sounds like he was talking to josh somebody like hey i understand what you're going through there's a reason he has two guns on him okay that's also another full conversation why he thinks he has to have it who he thinks where he's from is this just natural for him we can get into all those conversations but what we do know is gonna be tough to say you forgot it was in your bag whenever there's two of them fully strapped that's a tough this is going to be a tough case you just got to hope that you know a the guns were never used for anything yes that's a whole nother we learned that with aaron hernandez right exactly another new england patriot yeah we're gonna hope the guns purchased
Starting point is 00:52:40 legally nothing no fuckery yeah no crimes were done within him i assume if that was the case he wouldn't have been able to get out on thirty thousand dollars right but now we just got to hope that there is some sort of maybe it was a big bet and maybe it was hidden in a compartment that obviously the cops could say well he's trying to hide it and he could say i didn't know it was still in there and you get a judge or somebody that's like, hey, this guy's life, from where it was to where he is to what he could potentially be, isn't worth this slip-up for being ruined forever. Because two and a half to 20 years is a lot of fucking time. So long.
Starting point is 00:53:15 That's a lot of time in jail, especially in the prime of your athleticism. And I know he made this dumb mistake. I hope this isn't what ruins this guy's fucking life. And it feels like it could be. And he did have problems in college. I believe he was at usc he got in trouble had to transfer he ended up at arizona state so it is one of those situations where he does have somewhat of a past and you mentioned kind of the 10 round magazine i wonder if it was just a standard like 12 round typical for the gun or if it was some sort of 24 extendo.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Yeah, because I also think that could be a factor. Somebody gifted me a 100 barrel. Yeah, exactly. And I said, what is this? What's this for? You can fit 100 in there, 50 on this side, 50 on this side. Should I have that? A hundred? For what? I don't.
Starting point is 00:54:05 100? For what? Yeah, yeah. It's pretty sick. I'm like, that has to be so fucking heavy. Oh, my God. I mean, how heavy that thing has to be. I took it to a gun range one time, and I said, I don't need this anymore, but it was a very nice gift.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But it was at that moment I realized, I should not have it. Why should I have this? And then I started thinking to myself, you know what, if some of these zombies start just coming to the backyard. There's 500 of them. Me and my wife, I toss her one, little baby Mackenzie toss her one, and then we're just
Starting point is 00:54:40 standing back to back to back on the rooftop. Protect us ass. If we get to that point, we're all fucked. If I'm shooting for us, we're in a bad spot. Someone want to have a conversation. You know what I mean? Let's talk about this. We're dead.
Starting point is 00:54:53 You're on a lake, too. Everyone knows zombies can't go into the water. They can't swim. You guys hop on that jet ski. You guys just hang out on the lake. Is that real? I don't know anything about zombies. All the stuff that I've seen.
Starting point is 00:55:03 That one on The Last of Us came up out of the pipes. True. Big one. Yeah, big zombie. Oh, yeah. What was that thing called? No more running water. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Bloater? Yeah, Mushroom Man or something. Mushroom Man! Take some phone calls on the 500 phone line. 1-833-432-3663. 1-833-4... DUN-DUN!
Starting point is 00:55:21 Jack, we hope you end up, you know, being a super good human. We are a little bit worried about why you think you need to be carrying around two guns to yourself. We hope everything's okay in that front. And we hope there is an empathetic judge or jury. Yes. Hope this lands in front of those people.
Starting point is 00:55:41 There's a chance it doesn't. Especially in Massachusetts, like you guys mentioned. front of those people because really he there's a chance it doesn't oh especially in massachusetts like you guys are mentioned and mass that this isn't taken lightly in any sense especially at logan airport everything's about you know just not his life i mean that he's 25 my if he gets a five-year sentence, he's 30. Corner, it's over. And he was really unbelievable last year. You got to make sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Especially if it is a situation where he just completely forgot they were in there. Yes. You know? Probably did. Definitely did. Right? You're not trying to carry on two guns. You would think, especially when you tweet something like that about a job.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Bro, two guns, though, is a tough thing to say you didn't know was there. It is, for sure. But, you know, I mean, it's possible. Young guy, you don't make a mistake. But just something, like, completely innocuous. Like, oh, my God, I cannot believe I did that. And then now, like, they don't care. As it's getting pulled, his bag, and he's realizing, he's watching the thing.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Wrong bag. I grabbed the wrong bag oh my god oh fuck it's over and i'm in jail and then a lawyer's telling me as i'm sitting in front of the judge in the jail which i had to do the judge tells you what the maximum punishment is potentially that's your first time hearing it i had some some things to say. What? They were talking about a year in jail for public intoxication? A year in jail? I was just trying to get home. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:57:10 Please, bite down, sir. Somebody, anybody gonna explain this? Imagine him sitting there first time hearing what it is. Cover, carries a mandatory two and a half to 20 year sentence.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Does that mean like you can't plead it down? I assume, but I think. Yeah, I like you can't plead it down? I assume. But I think. Yeah, I didn't see the mandatory. I wasn't sure. I think it said, the tweet I read. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Said mandatory. But you would hope he'd be able to get out of it. Community service, that whole thing. Or they say no. Or it's two years. You carried two guns fully loaded into an airport. That can't happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Why weren't your guns in a safe? Why were they just in a bag that you could accidentally grab the wrong one? Those prosecuting attorneys. Oh, yeah. Exactly. With an NFL guy? Right. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Especially if he's got some priors or, you know, not priors, but like a pass that maybe indicates he's fucked up a time or two. It was in a bad state for it it and they made an example of it. Boom. Prosecuting attorney in my case wanted more time so he could look into more of my priors. He was sitting four feet away from me.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I just looked at him. What's your fucking problem? Why are you doing that, bub? Get me out of here. I'd like an extension or suspension or delay on this particular case because we don't know if what he's saying is true right now. We'd like to look into more pri out of here. I'd like an extension or suspension or delay on this particular case because we don't know if what he's saying is true right now. We'd like to look into more priors of it. And I just looked at him and then she'd ask me another question to judge
Starting point is 00:58:31 and I'd answer it. And then he would say, we would like an extension so we can look into what he's saying. We think he is lying. I'm like, look over this motherfucker wearing terrible jeans, fucking terrible shoes, fresh out of college, trying to fucking kill me right now. There's a whole room of people. I don't know what they did. This guy was coming after me.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I was in a suit. I had my court suit and wedding suit. They were the same suit. The only suit I had. I was full thing in there. This guy's trying to come after me. I couldn't even fathom what that person's going to try to do. Jack Jones carrying two guns. We hope everything's okay. Hey, hope everything's okay. Don't love that. Speaking of good news, we have
Starting point is 00:59:03 some. AJ Hawk will be joining us on the other side. He was doing charity. He was doing charity. He was representing the program. He was doing charity, which we appreciate, obviously. He did a golf thing. Oh, nice. For the Buckeyes?
Starting point is 00:59:21 I assume it was for the Buckeyes. I'm not 100% sure what charity he was for. He signs up for all those things. He's so ready for Tahoe. Don't care what he says. He's so ready to play golf. I'm going to break some news before he even comes on because he won't bring it up. He won the long drive tournament at the
Starting point is 00:59:37 Of course. Of course. He's dialed, I do believe. I don't doubt it. Joining us on the other side is a sandbagger Yeah, so he's dialed, I do believe. I hand it straight. I don't doubt it. Joining us on the other side is a sandbagger and a man who is playing incredible golf right now. He's a college football national champion.
Starting point is 00:59:52 You'll want to hear his thoughts on everything going on in the world. Oh, yeah. This guy's got takes. Yes, he does. Four days. And they all are seemingly toxic. And joining us right now live from from Manatee, Ohio, is a man who is a multitude of things.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Yeah, he is. He's a champion both in college football and in professional football. Wow. And we're not talking spring league. No, we're talking about the one in the fall. We're talking about being a champion of Ohio, actually declared the president of Ohio just a couple months ago.
Starting point is 01:00:22 He is obviously a COVID survivor, but in the time that we're in right now, he's a father of 10. Wow. Happy Father's Day to this man. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ, happy Father's Day, AJ. Yeah, happy Father's Day. People really do ask me if I have 10 kids, by the way, because of you.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I love that. I love that they're thinking that you're like the guy that I just watched, just learned about him. John and Kate plus eight? No, but offset of that, the father of that. Oh, Duggars, 19 kids? Boom! Boom! The Duggars. I watched a little documentary about them.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Hey, that's a fucked up family. What a weird thing that TV executives tv executives were like yeah let's go ahead and promote this let's film this and let's edit out all this weird stuff behind the scenes so we can put out a show even though we know we're probably doing more harm than good to both the family and society but hey reality tv is what it is it is obviously something that we all try to not watch but we do we keep up with trash television learning about the duggars last weekend was a wild thing. So people think you're potentially a future Duggar, that you're believing in the IBL, I believe is what it is. I believe it's the church.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I forget the actual name of it. Where producing kids is just a massive piece of it because you're building your own cult to join other people to take over the world. Oh, super cult. Yeah. I like that. That's why you have so many kids. I've never. Okay. That's why you have so many kids. I've never heard that. That's why you have so many kids, AJ.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Is that what people think you're doing? Is that what they're asking you? Is that what they claim they're doing? I never saw a documentary on them. I would like to see it. I just followed along because I know the oldest son got in a lot of trouble. Yeah, Josh, he was quite a... What'd he do?
Starting point is 01:01:58 Bad deal. Bad deal. Bad deal. And then they sent him to one of their churches to go get fixed, and then it got even worse there. Oh, you don't say. It didn't work? The documentary worth watching.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I forget what it was on, but people ask you if you're building a cult. Are you trying to produce a cult? Are you trying to take over the world? Why do you have 10 kids? Is that what people actually ask you? Well, I have four kids, for the record, but no, I'm not trying to start a cult. I have no interest in that. Well, if you and CFO Phil, that's eight, 12.
Starting point is 01:02:25 That's a pretty good little, you know what I mean? That's not a bad little army you guys are creating. Also, pretty similar mindsets. I think everybody, fit fam, we're going to be in shape. We're going to outlast everybody. So maybe you guys do start a little bit of a cult. Happy Father's Day. You're an inspiring father with how you're able to balance four kids,
Starting point is 01:02:42 being present, and doing this some of the time. And we say some of the time and we say some of the time because last friday you weren't here you're at a charity golf tournament you won a long drive contest you sandbag and son of a bitch are you better this year than you were last year right now no i'm i'm not i didn't play very well but it's a bullshit so in an outing there's like two or three holes where they're long drive holes where they have a little thing in the fairway and for two of them of course i yanked the ball out of bounds and then one of them i actually caught it straight and hit it in the fairway and yeah so i got the long drive on that one and now i have a three wood because i
Starting point is 01:03:11 got a 250 gift card to the pro shop that i had to use hell yeah hey you got to use okay i got yeah thankfully i got to use it but i didn't have any all i had was dry ruck i don't use any other woods usually so i got a three wood to match my driver okay which is going to be awesome to watch you whenever you decide to use that on a par 5 somewhere. Floppy. It's like the shaft is so floppy, like I'm going to have to smooth it on out. I can't swing like I want to. Oh, you're just going to smooth it on out of the pocket?
Starting point is 01:03:34 I got that. I got that. I definitely smooth it out when I need to. That's what you're known for. That's what you're known for, just kind of smoothing it out. I feel like this sack of shit is better than he has. I'm sure he is. 100%. Ty, you weren't able to be there last year at the level. He's kind of smoothing it out. I feel like this sack of shit is better than he has. I'm sure he is. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Ty, you weren't able to be there last year at the level. This guy, once you start watching him golf, you're like, how is this gorilla fucking good at this sport? Because he's obviously. Yeah, AJ freaking Hawk. Dude, he's still got the fucking. I'm not good. I can get a par on a hole, and then I can get a 10 on the next one.
Starting point is 01:04:04 No, you can't. You never next one. No, you can't. You never did that. We did not see a 10 one time. I think I had like seven or eight doubles when I played our first round. This humility is awesome, and it's why you're the president of Ohio. What did the commentators say? I'm not stupid. I'm realistic about golf.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I don't sit there and say, oh. People take it way too seriously. It's amazing he's able to get around with it, the way he's built or something. Is that what you mean? Yeah. It's all about being too massive to swing a club, basically. It looks like a little toothpick in your hand, and then you just swing that thing as hard as you can. When he starts smoothing out that floppy shaft of his, look out. Dude, whenever he starts laying that thing out,
Starting point is 01:04:40 it's going to be right there in the middle of it all. Let's talk about golf. Did you get to watch any of the U.S. Open? I did, obviously. I enjoyed it. It's become my little, you know, me, the wife, the baby, golf running. What? Sam's even kind of starting to dabble.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Coming around on golf. Yeah, not every time has she been pumped that we're watching golf. Sure. You know? But this one rolling into primetime. Oh, yeah. And not much else on. Consider me a fan of West Coast golf. Sure. You know? But this one rolling into primetime. Oh, yeah. And not much else on. Consider me a fan of West Coast golf. Agreed. If the PGA would like to just stay over there and then go do Oakmont, go do the Masters,
Starting point is 01:05:13 and then just find courses over there, I think I'd be okay with it. Shout out to Columbus for being a great host. Shout out to Massachusetts for being a great host. Obviously, New York has incredible tournaments. Florida does their thing. But for me, strictly as a selfish viewer viewer going into primetime was fantastic in the middle of this dead time of sports i loved watching it i enjoyed the weekend congrats to windham a man with that name you'd assume comes from you know billions of dollars naming your kid windham you know what
Starting point is 01:05:41 i mean but listening to his story learning about story, the pressure that was probably on him since a very young kid to be the next great golfer, and shit, he might be. We have no idea what we're about to see out of this man going forward. Once 100 and something, then he was 30th, now he's 13th. If he can put another one together this
Starting point is 01:05:59 weekend at the Travelers, which has another $20 million pot, so this is all top eight golfers are golfing in windham could go on a run this might be the next golf hero aj and i'm here for it let's go i mean i would imagine he gained a bunch of confidence in this one especially what was it saturday night he hits that putt was the birdie putt on 18 to send him into the final group right yes so he knew he's playing the final group that was a big deal and then ricky missed that putt and then all of a sudden takes that into Sunday.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I think also, though, it had to be difficult for Wyndham Clark knowing that the whole world wanted Ricky to win, I feel like, going into Sunday for sure. Bro, how about that camera fucking right here? Absurd. Unbelievable. The whole 18th fairway. They're this far away from his seemingly. Now, probably a little fish eye. So let's say they're four or five feet away.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Still, even though it appears to be one just side shuffling in his face. Just and we all know at this point, this dude makes par. Correct. Like he wins. He knows it. He has to know it. Oh, yeah. As that thing zoomed in on his face.
Starting point is 01:06:56 He has to know something's up, even if he can't see the fucking leaderboard or whatever. It's like I thought and I guess I'm a bad guy for this. It's like, I thought, and I guess I'm a bad guy for this. I believe big-time players make big-time plays in big-time games. That's why they have big-time fucking names. So normally, that gene is something that is real. Adam Vinatieri is going to make the kick. Tom Brady is going to make the drive.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Patrick Mahomes is going to do the same goddamn thing. There's a reason why their names are what they are. I ain't never heard of Wyndham Clark. Ever. That much pressure. All day on Sunday. Just on the 18th hole. That camera right in your face. Having to hit a pretty long shot that Ricky Fowler just put into the rough.
Starting point is 01:07:41 So Ricky Fowler does not have any of the pressure. He's fucking plus six on the day or whatever he's way out of it the conversation he can't even fucking hit the green from where it's at with how many people are there this guy has to step over after slicing a drive still in the fairway though who cares he puts that fucker right on the green and then they're just walking with him the whole time now i got a two putt a 60 footer even though i have two three putts on the weekend one today already the amount of things that could have built up i thought there was a chance he cracked yeah and i thought we were about to see a devastating devastating collapse from a guy that as i was
Starting point is 01:08:13 learning his story i became a big fan of i am very fucking happy that he's a dog in that that 60 footer he rolls to a fucking foot and then he just hammers that thing home and walks out of there the u.s open champion i'm very thankful he is because i thought we were going to go fucking foot, and then he just hammers that thing home and walks out of there the U.S. Open champion. I'm very thankful he is because I thought we were going to go the other way, and I was about to be devastated, AJ. On this show, I was going to have to say, oh, Wendell. You know what I mean? I was going to have to do that.
Starting point is 01:08:35 I'm very happy he went the other way, AJ. Yeah, I mean, his life has changed forever now, and I would imagine the confidence he gets from that moving forward, man, just like everything is so – they said he hasn't even played in the Masters yet. He's like 32 years old, right? He's not just fresh on the scene. 28 or 29. My bad, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I'm someone 30. Maybe Rory. I don't know. Stop just making stuff up. Come on, Hawker. We're just making it up. That's me. 29.
Starting point is 01:08:57 That's what I do. Close, though. I mean, you're in the 29. Fair take. But I do feel for him that there's no fans to watch and there's no roars because they sold the tickets to all the rich people and it was a poor the course was not set up for spectators
Starting point is 01:09:10 well either. We already knew that coming in. Okay, so what were your thoughts on all that? People were very pissed off that the LACC chose to sell half the general admission to themselves and then obviously all the corporate suites they upped the number of people for that so a very limited amount of general admission public tickets were out there.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Seemingly it was one of the frustrations amongst other things. It was, I guess, the Augusta National of California. Nobody even knew this place existed. It's the middle of fucking Beverly Hills. I mean, how? $8 billion piece of land is what Pomp called it? $8 billion is what they could sell the land for? The taxes they have to pay, though, because of a rule back in 1972,
Starting point is 01:09:44 is only like $22 million, as opposed to $800 million, which is what the yearly taxes could be if it was the modern real estate rules, so there's some little boom that they were able to get into. But I didn't even know this place was here. It is highly guarded, highly protected. I'm very surprised that they even wanted to host
Starting point is 01:10:00 a public tournament, you know, at this stage of the game. Haven't had one in California since 19... Since the 50s. It was the first time I was back in L.A. So, like, them wanting to open up the course that I didn't know about. No idea. You were just around there. Yeah, we literally probably just drove around this place.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yes, actually. And had no idea that it was even there. Nobody talks about it. Who knows who the members are? Them wanting to open the doors, interesting decision. And then the way they went about it, certainly also an interesting decision there. Who knows what it means for future events,
Starting point is 01:10:35 but a lot of people did not want anybody to go back to LACC. No. They're like, let's never go back to this place. It's like, damn, this place took it on the shins a little bit. They'll be back there in 31. And I think I saw people saying, not good, good cancel it got enough time to cancel it now what were your thoughts you didn't think there was enough people there i thought at times it just felt like it didn't feel like a major didn't feel like the u.s open because you'd see like scatterings of
Starting point is 01:10:56 people and you look around like yeah like there's weird hills there's no real places that are set up for spectators to be there then you learn about yeah, all the tickets are going to the suites and the loges or wherever they call them. And I just feel like at times, I know a guy, whoever got the hole-in-one early in the week said, yeah, I thought there'd be a bigger reaction. Fitzpatrick. But they didn't really say much.
Starting point is 01:11:15 So let's expand. This is AJ who has actually rented his house to a golfer that was in the golf tournament that comes through Ohio. That's how close he lives to it. So you go every single year, I'm assuming. And the people in Dublin are like, why don't we get the fuck in? Yeah, what the hell? We do a lot better.
Starting point is 01:11:34 That's probably a real thing amongst golf communities, I assume. Oh, I don't know. Mirafield, I don't think, is trying to get a U.S. Open because they have the tournament every year. But I think there's other places that would like to have the U.S. Open probably around Ohio. Well, it's going back to Oakmont. Two there we go east hills of pittsburgh how you doing keep it moving i've been working in the full swing this might be the time you can qualify you know that right anybody can qualify if you go through the local qualifier
Starting point is 01:11:58 yeah you just gotta win like 15 tournaments anybody can qualify that's it anybody yeah that's all i mean you're coming out of the pocket you got it dude i'll tell you what i am coming out of the pocket you see me hit that thing 3 30 today that was that was great you see this people are sweating so hard i just got off the fucking stair master yeah please come on you look like john rom you look just like john also what's wrong with sweating me tiny female john female, John Rahm. You know, we do a little short swing. How you doing? Keep it moving. This one flew a little bit, AJ.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Okay, I'm starting to hit the ball pretty good. Yeah, and look at the zero point. You're a good golfer. Oh, you're actually wearing your golf shoes in there, too. Yeah, it's because I learned from last year. I'm not walking on that course with brand new fucking clothes on. You're not doing that. Oh, you're just breaking them in.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Okay, that's smart. Yeah, trying to break them in. I don't have them tied there. You see, trying to break them in a little bit. Because last year, you know, I didn't get to use the shoes. You know, because not everybody's just able to go fucking take a Friday and golf and win a long drive contest. Yeah. Okay, or a Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I do get out there a bunch. You're right. Well, certainly more than me. Absolutely more than you. Certainly I know that. So I'm just trying to break these shoes in. People have been cooking me, though, for wearing golf shoes in a sim. It's like I have four blisters each foot last year. Come on.
Starting point is 01:13:09 You also didn't wear golf shoes leading up last year when you were just taking some cuts and you hurt your knee. So it's probably better safe than sorry. AJ, I'm pumped for Tahoe, man. I'm pumped. I don't know what the hell that weekend's going to look like, but there's some piece of information we don't have. What'd you say?
Starting point is 01:13:28 I said, wait, no one does. We never know until we get there, and then all of a sudden, here we go. Let's go win a golf tournament. Hey, TDP, let's go win a golf tournament. All we need to do is put together, what, three days? I'll tell you what. I know I'm delusional. If I put three good days together, I'm taking home that.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I've never got better than T60, I believe. But I'm going to make a run. Last year. Yeah, you're fucking lying. Why do you do this? You lie about everything. Why? What was that?
Starting point is 01:13:52 I said it was T55, I think. Or tied 55th. What was I? Something like that. I think you're top 50. Yes. No. I'm trying to get top 50 this year.
Starting point is 01:13:59 That's all I'm trying to do. Two years from now, though, trying to play in the US Open at the Oakmont. That's right. Starts in Tahoe. So you're trying to get top 50 in slavery. You got it. You got it. Let's do some fun. Hey, AJ.
Starting point is 01:14:12 This news out in New England with that guy with two guns. Not good. He had to not know they were in there, right? Yeah, with two guns. That's going to be tough to explain, I think. You know what I mean? That's going to be a little heavy. I don't know how big a carry-on it's going to be. Were they both loaded, too? Yeah. Both of them. Ten plus. Does that make it a bigger charge out of the engine?
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah. Yeah, both of them individually. So the clips and the guns, four charges pretty much, I think. In Massachusetts? Yeah. I assume a lot of states, but that's like four different charges. And then you add an airport and unlicensed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Not good. They weren't licensed to him? I don't think so. He had his license? Yeah, he didn't have the right ID or something. Yeah, so there's... If you have guns in your carry-on, it has to be like, I forgot these were here.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Has to. And I did an entire layout of how you could easily see how people could forget things were in their bags. For instance, when I was coming back from Heathrow from that England game, I thought there was a chance that I left some edibles in there. And it's like, we did a little research. I think it's 14 years and an unlimited fine for trafficking in England. Yeah, in England or whatever.
Starting point is 01:15:18 So like that all crossed through my mind as the bag was going through the thing. Oh my God, I'm going to be on locked up abroad right now because I played a football game. I mean, it's class B or whatever. So it was just through the thing oh my god i'm gonna be on locked up abroad right now because i played a football game i mean it's class b or whatever so it was just a toothpaste thing thank god but i rode that wave of oh fuck i'm never gonna i'm never gonna go back to america all of a sudden and uh obviously edibles and weed and stuff like that is a little different than having two guns but people can certainly forget that something's left in a bag. If they travel on a regular basis and they have a travel bag with that being said,
Starting point is 01:15:50 Ty brought this point up prosecuting attorney that is potentially going to want to make a name off this thing is going to say, well, why is it just so easy for you to confuse the bag that has two guns in it with the bag that doesn't have two guns? Like, why is that? Why is it not locked up? Why is it not in a vault, a case? Why are you doing any of this? have two guns like why is that why is it not locked up why is it not in a vault a case why
Starting point is 01:16:05 are you doing any of this and it's like two of them seems like there's a lot more yeah for people to fire back at him for this seems like it's going to be bad hoping for the best and also don't love that he thinks he has to carry around two guns that should be said you know what i mean yeah was yeah were they gifts were you going to give them to somebody for Father's Day? That's a good point. They're safe. Hey. Maybe. Here we are.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Look at the brainstorm session here in the defense room. Anyways, that's going to be tough with two of them. Yeah. Very difficult. Don't love it. Patriots got worse. Yeah. Prior problems, too.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Good player. Good football player, too. That's a tough thing. Very good. And you got Aaron Rodgers coming in town. Yep. Everything's going well over there in New York. good player good football player too that's a tough thing very good and he got aaron rogers coming in town everything's going well over there new york have you heard some of these quotes coming out about the time with aaron rogers new york jets quarterback they are gleaming over there oh yeah they are beaming fucking cheek to cheek oh yeah they are so happy cornerback dj reed it's
Starting point is 01:17:03 lit over here man there's great energy around the building, especially when I came the first day. Everybody's just happy. Had a smile on their face. There's just a lot of energy in the building. One guy can do that. Even when he came in the building, I was like, dang, that's really AR. He's a jet. Linebacker CJ Mosley, pretty good football player.
Starting point is 01:17:19 It's just a different vibe. He sets the bar. He sets the expectations with his resume, with his name, and the way he approaches the game every day. It's not every day you get to go against a future Hall of Famer quarterback. As a defense, we're honored. Honored to be in this situation. Wow. Lakin Thomas, he's
Starting point is 01:17:33 amazing. Getting to work with that caliber of player makes everyone around him better. They weren't the only ones. Dwayne Brown, just his presence is motivating in itself. I've played against him so many times in my career. You see it up close and you know what he's capable of. I'm very grateful to be part of this and feel the vibe that we have. Holy shit, are they paid to say this?
Starting point is 01:17:52 I ain't going to lie to you, said Quincy Williams. I was kind of starstruck at first. We were up right next to each other. I was like, hold up, coach. Let me take a few minutes to take this in. Watch a few throws, seeing him in the green. Elijah Vera Tucker says, just seeing him in the huddle is like still it's a real feeling gary wilson everybody's going out to work with a smile on their face this is something 20 years from now 30 years from now i'll tell my kids i
Starting point is 01:18:13 play with aaron rogers this is from the same article in the athletic now remember there was articles written about how miserable teammates are to be around Aaron with the amount that he expects from them, the amount of information that is flooded to them, and everything like that. Then you hear about this. He's at Rangers games. He's at Knicks games. He's at Wicked.
Starting point is 01:18:35 He's at the Tonys. He's getting the biggest pop at all of these things. And then his teammates are like, I fucking love going to work. Is this the greatest time in Aaron Rodgers' life right now? A.J. Hawken, what does this say to you, you think? fucking love going to work is this the greatest time in aaron rogers's life right now aj hawk and what does this say to you you think i mean obviously he's had a big impact on the squad from from the jump i think if they're excited now they're going to be very excited when they start the regular season they see they get to see him like up close and personal make plays when he's
Starting point is 01:18:58 your quarterback that's a special thing i think it it breeds confidence to the rest of the roster which they already have but i think it'll be it'll be much better when they get to see it live with pads on against another team ty obviously anytime you get a chance to reprove yourself rebuild relationships re everything there's going to be a freshness to it you know honeymoon phase is always something talked about because things are new this feels very good over in new york yeah vastly different than what it was in green bay for what the last at least for as long as I've been around pretty much in this Green Bay Packers fandom, like three years. This is night
Starting point is 01:19:29 and day completely time. Yeah, for sure. I mean, it seemed like when they went to the NFC Championship game in the COVID year and then they got the number one seed and lost in the first round of the playoffs to the Niners, like, they were winning because he was playing so well in spite of all the shit that was
Starting point is 01:19:45 going on behind the scenes because like in the media they kind of made it seem like hey you know they've kind of like every everything's good like all this stuff has kind of been put to rest but everyone knew like that's bullshit like there's still all this stuff bubbling beneath the surface and it was kind of just waiting for last year where they don't have as good of a year and then it all kind of rises to the top but yeah i mean like all these guys they they knew how good they were last year and they were just missing a quarterback and you didn't just get like uh you know no offense to a guy like kirk cousins but they didn't get just like a guy who's good who can take you to a playoffs like they got sounds like offense to kirk not at all not at all but sound like the gm of the
Starting point is 01:20:22 viking they got well yeah He thinks it, so exactly. But they got a guy... Not anymore, though. These weren't changed. Yeah, true. They got a guy who's a first ballot hall famer. They didn't just get some guy who's good enough who isn't going to be as bad as Zach Wilson. They got a guy who they can fucking, you know, who can take him to a Super Bowl.
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Starting point is 01:20:56 Rap, before we dive into you golfing today and how the round won, seemingly the first five hole was terrible. Hopefully, it got better the last 13. Thank you for joining us. We're reading these quotes in the Athletic article about Aaron Rodgers and his teammates and how everything's going. And we know they canceled the last week of minicamp because everybody was already there for the full OTAs. Have you heard anything bad out of the Jets camp at all? Or is every single thing good over there? You're talking about just as it relates to Aaron Rodgers or like the Jets in general? It seems like just the Jets in general, all things pointing up into the right, seemingly, for the New York Jets.
Starting point is 01:21:30 I mean, that's the way it should be, right? I mean, especially because, you know, like I sort of thought, are you still going to? Wow. That is far. Still going. Yep. He has a ladder or is he still leaning? He looks like he's just going straight now, right?
Starting point is 01:21:43 Nope. Nope. Still going up into the right. Still going up? Yep. leaning? He looks like he's just going straight now, right? Nope, nope, still going up and to the right. Still going up? Yep. I'll be here while he's still – oh, there we go. All right. This is like me trying to get my tippy toes.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I feel you, Pat. Photo time. Go ahead. No, it is – as it pertains to Aaron Rodgers, it is all good. And I sort of thought that new team, new approach, the buy-in would be really strong and really quick. And it has been all of that. Like, not only was he there for kind of some OTAs and showed his teammates, like, hey, I'm around.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Like, he was there for all of them. And I know some of that was related to the calf injury, but still, he was there for all of them. He doesn't have to learn a new offense, but he can help teach everyone else, you know, the offense along with Nathaniel Haggett. I think that's going to really help. They, you know, I wondered if, you know, maybe something would happen with Corey Davis or Denzel Mims. Maybe they'd deal or cut a receiver. Like, they got all of them.
Starting point is 01:22:35 So they got all the options going into training camp. I mean, I would say the only sort of lingering issue, you know, you got the Aaron Rodgers contract restructure, which I'm sure will happen. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Last year, last year, last year. Last year. triggering issue you know you got the aaron rogers contract restructure which i'm sure will happen whoa whoa lost you lost you lost you lost you what's going on all right we'll call you back we'll call you back we'll call you back hold the phone i think we lost him yeah i didn't hear him yeah there's the end he was starting to talk really good stuff there that was yeah he's really starting to dive into it couldn't hear him everything good in the back well it may be connected to a speaker thing. Yeah, that would make more sense.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Maybe a Bluetooth. You know that happens, AJ. When you're walking around your estate every once in a while, I hear my voice is on in like your Maybach, and then you walk a little bit further, and then it's on in your gym, and then you walk a little bit further, and I'm blasted through the kitchen. You know, your Bluetooth connected to everything. Maybe he did that.
Starting point is 01:23:22 The whole shit, though, out of there is crazy. Hey, C, you've got to be scared to death right now oh no I'm not scared not scared to death we're not in the Pat Mahomes division and I you know we will have to play them and so will the Jets so we're not we're gonna see how they stack up and unfortunately their best player on defense doesn't want to play for them or at least needs money to play for them so although everything is great out of New York this isn't the first time that some team, especially in New York, has been spinning some yarn about how good they're going to be.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Let's see how it transfers to the field. And let's keep in mind that Joe Burrow, the Bengals, and Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs, and if the Bills don't hate each other by the time September rolls around, that they're still in there. The Jets are right behind those three teams in the AFC as far as odds are concerned to win the
Starting point is 01:24:06 AFC. Interesting. Good time. A little prime time over there in the AFC beast. A.J. Hawk, I like that. Let's go to the phones here. Who needs paid, Con? Who's Con talking about? Quinton Williams. He wants a contract. They're not giving it to him. I'm hearing he's back on. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us
Starting point is 01:24:22 again, Ian Rappaport. Hey, Rappaport! Rapp, how you doing, pal? We got you? I'm good,'s back on, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us again, Ian Rappaport. Hey, Rappaport. Rapp, how you doing, pal? We got you? I'm good, yeah. I don't know what happened there, but I'm back. So let's go back to the Jets thing. We were talking about...
Starting point is 01:24:35 It's fine. Everything's fine, Pat. Everything's fine. Okay, good. We'll go back to the Jets thing. So it's all good. The only unsettled issues are the Aaron Rodgers contract restructure, which I'm sure will happen at some point,
Starting point is 01:24:48 and then Quinn and Williams' new contract, which it's a fairly well-defined defensive tackle market. There's been a lot of deals. So my guess is they should be able to get things done. It just never quite happens as quick as you want. And the fact that there was no minicamp meant there was no Quinn and Williams holding in, holding out, doing something.
Starting point is 01:25:07 They went away for the summer. So those are sort of the lingering issues. But the energy is pretty good there, I think. Yeah, sounds like it's lit, is what I've been heard. What I've been reading, at least, about the whole thing. Let's talk about energy that is not as lit, just because we have to talk about it. I don't like talking about this type of stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:23 This guy's an incredible player, though, for the New England Patriots. All of a sudden caught up with two guns at an airport with two loaded chambers. I mean, that's like four charges there, let alone a licensing thing and everything like that. We don't know the rules over here or the laws other than tweets that we've seen that have kind of laid this whole thing out. We heard this is bad. This is not good. How does he get out of this? And what does this look like for Jack Jones,
Starting point is 01:25:45 a great corner for the New England Patriots, who has a pick six against the aforementioned Aaron Rodgers last season? I do not know that he gets out of this. It's not good. And, you know, he's an NFL player, and he is a really good player, you know, really versatile player, good talent on a what should be a really really good Patriots defense this is not an NFL issue um you know there is and I'm not 100% clear either but you know I had someone who I believe should know say that there's a mandatory
Starting point is 01:26:17 sentence involved with this yeah right I read the same thing I think like multi-year right I mean I believe 18 months now I don't know, I don't know. And I don't know. You know, these are all charges, obviously. And we should say that we do not know, you know, what he did, who did what. I mean, there's there's been plenty of times you've seen the report and then it comes out later and it's different. Like mine, for instance. Obviously, you know, there's another one frank clark was caught with um a couple uh a couple guns recently and you know different situation i believe it was california but did not do jail time but this is trying to bring guns onto a plane if this is in fact what
Starting point is 01:26:55 jack jones did uh i read all the charges there's a lot of them yeah now it's possible timing wise this is pushed a little bit so like you, the legal system plays out in forever. So it is possible he could play this year. But this is bad, and this is not a football issue. Here's from Justin Ramos, who's a Patriots reporter. Here are the charges. Possession of a concealed weapon in a secure area of an airport. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Possession of ammunition without a firearm identification card. Unlawful possession of a firearm. of ammunition without a firearm identification card, unlawful possession of a firearm, carrying a loaded firearm, and possession of a large capacity feeding device. Jeez Louise. Alright, Jack. Good luck out there.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Let's start being smarter too. Okay? This is an intelligence test. I mean, I'm sorry, but it really is. There's so many bad things that you just said there. Yeah. I mean, it's unfathomable.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Pretty alarming. Yeah, and you could make the argument, which I assume he would, is that he didn't know they were in that bag and he grabbed the wrong bag. And we've all been there with edibles where we thought we were potentially going to be in a spot. But two guns is going to be tough to explain. Plus a large feeding. Yeah, that's the kicker, I think. But that's why we need to find out what that,
Starting point is 01:28:08 because if it's just a 12-round normal for the gun versus the extender like we talked about earlier. Yeah, but any of it is not great. Yeah, no matter what the category of force. And two of them is going to be tough to say, I don't even know. Yeah. Didn't you feel it, hear it? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Wasn't it a little heavier? No. Or just like, well, you should know. God, we hope he's okay. We hope it works out. I hope everybody's safe, too. I mean, he's carrying two guns loaded. Why is he thinking he has to do that?
Starting point is 01:28:32 That's a good question. Yeah, AJ, your question for Rhett. Ian, you mentioned that we know the legal process could take forever, but the NFL, like Raj, you say it's not an NFL issue, but couldn't Raj step in and find, he can do whatever he wants technically, but could you see it playing out to where he does, Jones does play this season, then something happens, whatever the case and the trial or whatever they do eventually after the year, and then they work out if he gets suspended or sentenced or whatever happens? Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:28:58 now, obviously if he, if he goes to jail, then it's a matter of like, do the Patriots keep him or not? I mean, that's, you know, that's sort of the football related part of it. Obviously, it's, you know, does Roger Goodell step in, put him on the commissioner's exempt list, which, you know, he does have the ability to do. You know, he can sort of make the decision that this is one where a player should be set aside. It is not a, thankfully, a violent crime. It is not a, you know, there's other, this wouldn't necessarily fit in the category of going on the commissioner's exemplist, but he could theoretically decide to do it. Or the Patriots could just say, we do not want to see Patriots corner every time they discuss this. We're done. Like,
Starting point is 01:29:41 there's a lot of decisions that have to be made here but yeah i mean to go to your point like alvin camara was involved in allegedly a very serious violent issue and he has played during that as he awaits you know possible resolution and then likely suspension what's going to happen with that by the way i mean if he is found guilty or if he pleads guilty or if they come to some sort of agreement, I'm facing probable suspension. Okay. I forgot about that. Guilty game, you know. Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Yeah, Pro Bowl weekend. Yeah, to your point, what you just said about Jack being able to play, it's like I completely forgot about Kamara. That's a serious thing. Oh, yeah. Broke the guy's nose, right, in like his orbital bone or something. Yeah, but who knows. Allegedly.
Starting point is 01:30:22 With the video. Allegedly. I mean, there's a lot that could go into it. Anyways allegedly there's a lot of things being said go ahead connor yeah actually we heard on friday from michael lombardi that the leslie frazier departure from buffalo is a little more complicated than him just stepping away from the team uh is there any truth to that do you know exactly what happened because i believe frazier is actually with the giants at their camp doing a little consulting uh earlier last week or two weeks ago. I mean, that would make sense given his relationship with Joe Shane and Brian Dayball. I saw what Lombardi said. I have not been able to 100%
Starting point is 01:30:59 confirm that. I think he mentioned that Sean McDermott took over with 13 seconds left. That one I had not heard. Whether or not there was a discussion of would Leslie Frazier give up play calling, I think that was probably more in line of what I had heard. It does sound like when it came down to it, Sean McDermott is calling plays, wanted to call plays. That was the direction they wanted to go. I think it made sense for everyone for Leslie Frazier to not be there. The timing also really sucked for him because everyone had a coordinator.
Starting point is 01:31:33 So I'm sure he will be back. It's been frustrating to me because the defense has been really good. The Bills itself have been really good. Leslie Frazier has not gotten head coach interviews. And then obviously this happens and he has to step away for a year. The skills itself have been really good. Leslie Frazier has not gotten head coach interviews. And then obviously this happens and he has to step away for a year. That's certainly not going to help his head coach trajectory. But anyway, to answer your question, I had heard some of that.
Starting point is 01:32:07 I had not heard all of that, but it was certainly a complicated, complex situation where they reached a reasonable and amicable solution to separate. interesting i had not heard any of it no and back in buffalo like he'll be back back in buffalo or back no no no no okay and then you're talking about his head coaching trajectory was on the rise especially because you're a d coordinator of a great buffalo bills team he steps away from you you think it's going to cool off a little bit but what if what if one of these teams fires their coaches like week eight week nine? Then he has the first opportunity potentially for an interview because he is on the street or he'll be consulting with somebody. That was the first time I'd
Starting point is 01:32:31 heard though that there was potentially a little because when he stepped down out of nowhere just kind of moved on. We hope everybody's okay at home. We hope everybody's safe and everybody's healthy. And then we just moved on. So that was the first time I heard that. Why don't you tell us next time? Come on, Rap.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Well, you know, these situations are complicated. Yeah, they are, actually. Speaking of complicated situations... Go ahead. And I'll say this. The Bills are a really good team. They're a really good organization. I think in some other... This is sort of a larger issue, but in some other
Starting point is 01:33:03 places, you might have heard all these rumors um you didn't hear any with the bills like that is that is a tight unit and probably one of the reasons are pretty good ty has a question for you yeah rap sheet over the weekend jordan love was getting cooked a little bit because he wished the bears happy father's day implying that they are his father and not the other way around like rogers used to do uh which wasn't great but you know i think he kind of just got got didn't really know what he was saying but outside of that everything that's come out uh so far from the packers in terms of videos and just like his progression seems like he's been playing very well and that they're very excited about him uh what
Starting point is 01:33:39 are you hearing about jordan love and and what do you think about him going into this year yeah i would say tentative optimism it's not you know like when when Aaron Rodgers is the Packers quarterback or I don't know the Jets quarterback probably pretty good bet that that's a playoff team unless something goes crazily wrong and you know what you know you know how good they're going to be one of the hardest things with the NFL with playing quarterback is until the lights come on for real until you have to do it game after game after game and all the stuff that goes with it you really have no idea so like I've talked to plenty of Packers people about this there is some optimism but no
Starting point is 01:34:16 one is kind of like like it's it's not like when Mahomes was going to be the chief starting quarterback for the first time they were like like, yo, we got something. They knew. This is not like that. This is more like we think we have something. He is talented. Obviously, Gutekunst drafted him for a reason. It took a minute to get to where they're confident enough in him,
Starting point is 01:34:38 so they think he'll be good, but really you don't truly know until you get out there and it's week five and he's still doing it yeah i mean what if he just comes in and lights the world on fire that would be awesome huh how about it i didn't like the him getting got you know what i mean neither did i what what how did that what i missed so allegedly it was like a bears fan from France who was there for whatever reason. I don't know. I saw the picture of the guy wearing a Bears jersey, but he asked him to make a video,
Starting point is 01:35:11 and I assume there was some sort of communication error they didn't really understand. But still, he got got. You can't be getting got like that. He said the Bears were his dad. He did. Yeah, pretty much said Bears fans were his dad. That's one way you could take it.
Starting point is 01:35:23 The other way could be like, hey, I'm your dad. Happy Father's Day to me. You know what I mean? I guess you could take it that way. But the internet's not going to do that. The internet is obviously going to try this young buck. And although he's been around and we've seen him in videos look a lot better than he looked at the beginning of this entire run,
Starting point is 01:35:40 Jordan Love has been dropped into one of the hardest positions in the history of the sport. run. Jordan Love has been dropped into one of the hardest positions in the history of the sport. We're talking about drama from day zero of joining the team. All hell has broken loose.
Starting point is 01:35:53 He has managed to remain classy and friends with Aaron Rodgers through this whole process. Has only gone to work and gotten better. I hope this ends up working out because it would be a great story for the NFL to tell. Now, on the flip side, it's not easy to be great in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:36:08 No, it's not. There's a lot of people that are not great in the NFL. There's a lot more people that are not great in the NFL than people that are great in the NFL. So if Jordan Love is not great in the NFL this first year,
Starting point is 01:36:17 I fear it's going to get a lot. Very. And Jordan Love, would we have ever said that he was given a fair shot at this whole thing? Nope. Nope, but he was a first-round quarterback.
Starting point is 01:36:27 Good luck out there. We're pulling for you. Go get him, Jordan. Dad, AJ, your question for Rep? Ian, what can we expect here? We know we're entering the ultimate dead period. I know you have. I don't know what your plans may look like, but will we see any moves happen?
Starting point is 01:36:40 Because now everyone's pretty much officially out there on vacation. I would say for the most part, if you see news, it's probably not great. We're like pausing and stuff. Oh, this is when we get in trouble, right? This is when the guys get in trouble usually. Now, it's been a lot better. When I first started doing this like 10 years ago, it seemed to be bad a lot. And it's gotten a lot better.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Shout out us. Shout out players. Let's go. Shout out other thing that could happen is there are you know there were a lot of deals in like june i guess we're still in june but in the early part of june or late may that were kind of being sort of talked about right like i mentioned quinn and williams before a couple quarterback deals burrow and herbert um you know there's justin jefferson um who may get a new deal there's chris jones i mean there's a lot of deals out there and these things tend to have like a weird mind of their own so they happen when they happen so like there is a chance we could randomly get a deal. Andrew Lux was July 4th, I think. There's so many pending extensions that I think that might be something
Starting point is 01:37:52 that could kind of spice up our July, I would say. Okay. Hey, let's spice up. Let's spice up our life. Let's spice up our life. Good things. Positive things. People getting paid.
Starting point is 01:38:03 People saving the world. There we go. Maybe some philanthropic news. People getting paid. People saving the world. Maybe some philanthropic news. People going on missions and building things and creating things. Let's report on those as well as they're happening this summer as opposed to just guys
Starting point is 01:38:16 having two guns and two extendos. Let's report some good stuff. We appreciate you. How was the golf round? Play good? I played a lot better after your call. You must have inspired me. I was in trouble, and then I went par, par, par after our phone call. A little downhill from there, but I shot 89 overall.
Starting point is 01:38:36 To me, totally fine. Hell yeah, you broke 90, pal. Good point, Rap. I did say one thing. Like, hey, let's just make solid contact, Rap. That's it. Let's just make solid contact. You make solid contact, and you matriculate down the course. You're going to be just fine. Now you're golfing. Like, hey, let's just make solid contact, Rap. That's it. Let's just make solid contact. You make solid contact and you matriculate down the course.
Starting point is 01:38:47 You're going to be just fine. Now you're goffing. Seedball, hitball. We appreciate the hell out of you. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Hey, buddy. So what happened with the oil, I wonder?
Starting point is 01:38:56 I don't know. It just dropped out of nowhere. That was weird. What a dude. He came back and said everything's okay. Like, what happened? You guys have a little secret communication? No, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:03 I honestly have no idea. It might have been the Bluetooth thing. It had to be. Yeah, maybe. He's always on top of it, except for during this time whenever he just chooses to golf every day. Yeah, I mean, there's some news that's coming. It might be good, might not
Starting point is 01:39:16 be. It'll happen if it doesn't happen. Andrew Luck's happened. It did. Doesn't mean previous outcomes do not predict future ones. We have no idea what's going on. Appreciate it, Rap. The NFL never sleeps, though. More news coming out of other sports, though.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Like the U.S. men's national team or the fucking CONCACAF champions. We're the champions again. Back to back. Back to back. And now, Reina, a man who was not allowed on the field because something happened with his family and the head coach's family
Starting point is 01:39:49 and sexual intercourse at some point with somebody somewhere. Possible. He was not on. Last night he has two assists. How you doing? Let's beat the shit out of Canada. Let's win the Concava.
Starting point is 01:39:58 And now, all eyes. I guess the Gold Cup is certainly something we'll win as well. But all eyes are on the Europes, okay? If you Europes, who I believe just had Spain won. They're in the league. Yeah, they're in the league. They're won, okay? Why don't you guys put up your trophies?
Starting point is 01:40:12 Okay, put up your pink slips. Let's go. Us versus you. Concava versus the Europes. Yep. Trophies on the line. Go ahead and take on this group of absolute doves. They have a different attitude than they had going into the World Cup.
Starting point is 01:40:24 They do. This team's fighting for each other. This team's a little bit more bully ball. This team doesn't look like a bunch of bitches like they potentially looked in the World Cup. Now, we don't have a head coach just yet. They bring back that Burr Halter. He was obviously brought in mid-Concava run. B.J. Callahan,
Starting point is 01:40:40 the video director who was running the team, got the boys running. Yeah. This team's a different team, AJ. And I want to let everybody know, when the soccer Lombardi's being hosted on this ground, on this part of Pangea, and we win it, we will let you enjoy our game over there. That's right.
Starting point is 01:41:02 We will expect you to thank us for taking your sport to higher highs than it's ever been before. And you have to thank us for allowing soccer to continue to be what it is in the rest of the world behind our soccer Lombardi being hoisted around town from California to Carolina and all the towns in between. It's our sport now. It's our game now, and I'm excited for it, AJ. Hell yeah. So was this U.S. Men's National, was it on yesterday? Yeah, last night. How was it? You start
Starting point is 01:41:35 to finish. What network was it on? How was it? So I DVR'd it. I DVR'd it. It was on Paramount+. I do believe you're able to go back and watch it. Is this the biggest tournament of the year? Yeah, it's Concava. So this one's bigger than the Europe's. This one's bigger.
Starting point is 01:41:52 There's a tournament called the Europe's? Yeah. But this is all a culmination. This is just like warm-ups for the World Cup though, right? Yeah, the soccer Lombardi's the biggest. That's right. Then there's Concava. Are we favorites
Starting point is 01:42:05 to win this one? We are now. Concava might be bigger than the World Cup at this point. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, if we keep winning it, obviously. Then it means more. Gold Cup's right up there too. People are saying... Is there like four teams in the Concava? How many play in that?
Starting point is 01:42:21 Hundreds, dude. So many. Obviously, people just think it's just us and Canada because obviously our two programs are better than everybody else that we're playing. That's right. There's a lot of other teams in there. We just don't get to see the highlights. What you do in the dark comes to the light. Just because the lights aren't on whenever we're playing all these other
Starting point is 01:42:37 hundred teams doesn't mean the work isn't being put in. There's a lot of great teams in the Concava. Great countries. This is Phil Mickelson type stuff. Tiger Woods. Any of these great teams in the Concava. Great countries. This is Phil Mickelson type stuff. Tiger Woods. Any of these other countries in the Concava. Any other time could be theirs. But instead, they gotta live in our shadow.
Starting point is 01:42:53 You can't forget about historical powerhouses like Mexico, who we just took behind the woodshed and beat the absolute shit out of. They're there too. And we fought them. We did. And we fought them. I was excited to see that. That was cool. So the United States-Mexico soccer games obviously always been big. Always
Starting point is 01:43:09 chippy. Usually very chippy. A lot of dirty soccer, you know. It's always been the thing. Good rivalry. That's just how it is. It always has been. You know, that's why whenever Liga MX, I believe, and MLS, they were trying to work together because it's a
Starting point is 01:43:26 natural rivalry it's good soccer mexico has done well in the world cup we've obviously gonna go on and win the soccer and body this year it's always been good but we beat the shit out of them and actually fought them couldn't even have two of our best players and champions because they were in an actual fight in an actual scrap it's like now we're playing. Hey, now we're playing some American soccer. Now this is we need to impose our will on people. We don't need to try to be playing other people's soccer. We don't need Polithic, who is
Starting point is 01:43:53 one of the greatest players on earth. Scored two against Mexico. One of the greatest finishers on earth right now. So dynamic. We don't need him flopping around like you. Keep your feet, pal. You're faster than everybody. Was he flopping? Remember World Cup? We were all about it. And, we didn't. Keep your feet, pal. You're faster than everyone. Was he flopping? Remember World Cup? We were all about it. And then we started watching him play.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Has that started to figure itself out, though? That's what I'm saying. The team has a new edge. Gritty. A lot of John. B.J. Callahan. Take no crop from nobody. Beautiful game with a little bit of brutality. Yeah. And we had to stop. MLS had to stop playing League of MX, remember?
Starting point is 01:44:26 Yeah, that was it. League of MX strung up that guy from missing a PK in the middle of the game. What? Hung him like a banner. Who did? Who? You don't remember? I remember Sadam and his face.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Son's doing that. Like 17 people were decapitated. Yeah, it was crazy. There was a brawl in the state. I don't know if what he said happened. I'm pretty sure. I saw that. Oh, you're talking about that.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Turnstiles were happening. A lot of stomps. Yeah, that kind of ended that whole thing. We do not think that's every game. But that did happen in a game. Yeah. And it did change the trajectory seemingly of the MLS in them. That video hit the internet fast.
Starting point is 01:44:59 It was great. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Holy shit. He's not good. Too far, too far, too far, too far, too far. Fight Haven won't even post this. Exactly. Let's get to it, bro.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Speaking of, have you seen clips that go hard? No. On Twitter? Thank God. It's like the new Fight Haven. It's not cool. I stay out of the 4U. Yeah, I'm about to mute the 4U as well.
Starting point is 01:45:16 It is a... What is it? Just nasty? Just dead stomps and stuff? I don't know. What does Twitter think of me? We're talking... Yeah, well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:45:25 I think we all got the same. Yeah. I think we all got the same. Yeah. I think we all got the same. There's clips that go hard. They show a video of a motorcycle crashing into the back of a truck, right? And then the next video is this guy who's been impaled by a pipe that was hanging out the back of this truck. Can't have that. I don't want that in my life.
Starting point is 01:45:39 I don't want it at all. I don't like horror films. Bingo. I don't want the visual. No. I didn't even like watching people like bobble snaps because I don't want that at all. I don't like horror films. Bingo. I don't want the visual. No. I didn't even like watching people like bobble snaps because I don't want that in my brain. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:49 I'm too mentally weak. Does it say these people are fine, though, and they're living a healthy life? Nope, nope. It does not say that. That used to be the rule of the internet, by the way. Yeah. Just so everybody knows, it's kind of new to the internet.
Starting point is 01:45:58 Not that I'm old to the internet. Kind of. Been around a long time on the internet. But feels like, not as long as other people, not saying that. But I'm just'm just saying used to be like hey person dies but don't we're not yeah yeah so when you're watching things you think to yourself like okay so at least this person didn't die now i feel like the modern internet does not have that morality clause not at all it's like i'm watching it and i'm like like this person. Like faces of death back in the day.
Starting point is 01:46:27 That was scary. They'll tell you if it's a lie, but they won't tell you if the guy's a liar. How about those trains people used to get? Oh, man. I can't say. I'm seeing it right now. Let's get it out. Get it out.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Get it out. Everybody close their eyes. I just saw it again. See ya. Out. Mitt came up to me last week, and he was like, do you want to see a video of a guy getting eaten by a lion? I said, no.
Starting point is 01:46:47 I don't. Why? Nick, don't have it on your phone. That might be a part of the problem. The shark one. I was going to say, Nick was also the one I believe who showed us the shark. Nope. Yeah, Nick's a big.
Starting point is 01:46:56 That was not me. I haven't even seen the shark video. Hands up. Now, the shark one, maybe not. But Nick's a big. I'm all for people getting hurt on hurt if they're riding a BMX bike or doing something to themselves. I don't want to see people get eaten.
Starting point is 01:47:09 What are you laughing at, AJ? You're the same damn thing. I don't know. I'd rather see someone die than snap their arm in half like Tom Selleck. You want to see... What's wrong with you? He's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:47:18 I don't like seeing dislocations. I'd rather see him get shot than their arm snap in half. So we're sitting there having a good time. He's smoking a cigar as he would. I'm smoking a little dope maybe. Drinking a whiskey. I'm having a good time sitting down. Life's good. And all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:47:34 AJ puts his phone two inches from my face. I don't do that. I never do that. I may have handed it over. What are you talking about? It's not like a killing video. What was it? No. You know what video it was. Oh, it's showing you the greatest guitar player that ever lived? Yeah. Is that what it's doing?
Starting point is 01:47:47 Yeah. Just shoved it in my face. And I go, I do not want to watch this. I don't. You got to see it. I do not want to watch this. But I'm sitting here for three and a half minutes with AJ's phone. Just over and a quarter.
Starting point is 01:47:56 You were shoving. I didn't watch it for three and a half minutes. But I did see 25 seconds of that thing. And I had seen enough. And now, every time that guy's name gets brought up. Nobody died. Nobody died. I assume they're both at this stage.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Some people say that fart might have killed a couple. Let's get to it. So you are that guy. Nick is that guy as well. Yeah, that was tough. Well, hand up. I was the one parading. Hey, this guy just got eaten by a tiger shark.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Check it out. Yeah, you need to stop that. Come on. Boom. Well, no, but remember, I followed up. Nick feels very vindicated. Yeah. I followed it up with the second video, though, of them by a tiger shark. Check it out. Yeah, you need to stop that. Come on. Boom. Well, no, but remember I followed it up. Nick feels very vindicated. Yeah. I followed it up with the second video, though, of them killing the tiger shark.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Yeah, it was a real coming-of-age tale. Yeah. Not all of that. Get the guy's body out of his stomach. Two deaths don't equal no deaths. No. It's like Happy Gilmore. Yeah, they have rooms.
Starting point is 01:48:37 That guy got chewed up into little tiny pieces. They weren't finding anything out of him. See, we don't need that descriptive of a... Well, we all saw the video. I mean, that tiger shark. Yeah, boy. You see the tiger shark? See his whole goddamn mouth.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Rest in peace to that guy. Yeah. Rest in peace to everybody that's died on these videos that we've been forced to watch on this new internet. Yes. We don't like that we're seeing it. There's no rules at all. We need a little rules on the internet.
Starting point is 01:49:01 No rules out there. We need people to live by a moral code. We need to know if the human died or not. Kids don't care. These kids don't care. They don't. They don't. The issue is I won't see a lot of your guys' tweets unless I go to that tab.
Starting point is 01:49:16 And I never go to that fucking tab. So I never see your guys' tweets. I see your tweets, Fox. You remember you're jumping on a trampoline? You don't count. I see your tweets. Like Ty's Remember you're jumping on a trampoline? You don't count. I see your tweets. Like ties, Tony's, I never see.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Let's get to a break. Chris Paul joining the show. Oh, here we go. Holy shit. Had an opening. Chris Paul comes in. Alright. Here we go. Got a new book coming out. Nice. Tomorrow. Called 61 Life Lessons from Papa. On and off the Court. Chris Paul with Michael Wilbon.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Okay. We settle our differences. I've not read this book, did not know Chris Paul was coming on, but very pumped that he is coming on. Yeah, sweet. How'd you get the book so quick? That is a hard cover. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Very hard cover. You can hear it Yeah and then when that one sells as a best seller It'll get reprinted as a soft cover And you make even more money I think the soft cover is easier to travel with This one's going to hit into your guns When you got them in your carry on
Starting point is 01:50:18 Might set them off If he would have had a hard back book It would have hit both of them Which goes back to our point we need to read more yeah we did absolutely it's important well said and joining us live is a man whose book comes out tomorrow okay titled 61 life lessons from papa on and off the court chris paul with michael wilbon i can't wait to hear the stories that are in here. It is about life off the court and how his grandfather inspired him to do so many things. His grandpa was the first black owned gas station in the county in Carolina. Whenever he passed away,
Starting point is 01:50:59 suddenly out of nowhere after a heart attack, after getting mugged and robbed, I do believe over a thousand people came to this man's funeral. He's beloved by everybody, basically, that has ever encountered him. Chris, the next night, goes and plays a high school basketball game, scores 61 in honor of his grandfather, will go on to Wake Forest and obviously become one of the greatest leaders in the history of professional sport as a man that has vital ties to the national basketball players association.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Yep. The deal him and Bob Iger negotiated to play in the fucking bubble. We're talking about one of the most genius sports guys of all time. Book comes out tomorrow. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Paul. Yeah. How you doing?
Starting point is 01:51:38 Hi, what's happening? Chris, thank you for coming on the program. This is fantastic. I just read up on it as much as possible. And obviously I haven't been able to get through it. We'll listen to it. I can't wait for the program. This is fantastic. I just read up on it as much as possible and obviously I haven't been able to get through it. We'll listen to it. I can't
Starting point is 01:51:48 wait for the stories. I read the blurb. I read the back. I'm kind of getting the gist of this whole thing. Thank you for doing this and obviously rest in peace to your Papa Chili, I believe is his name. Yeah, my grandfather. Rest in peace to him and how much have
Starting point is 01:52:04 like, so is this business related stuff is this life lessons what is the book and how when i start diving in what should i expect that's a little bit of everything pat but first appreciate you having me on man it's so dope to see what all you got now like that's what's crazy like the whole set like man i'm happy for you like genuinely happy for you but for for me, for me and my grandfather, this book is about like why I am the way I am, you know, and it teaches like how important these relationships are. You know what I mean? Like my grandfather was everything. That was my best friend. And I just talk about, you know, this time in my life when he was murdered when I was 17. I just talk about, you know, this time in my life when he was murdered when I was 17.
Starting point is 01:52:53 It's a crazy thing to think about that type of thing happening to you, especially on I think it was the day after you signed your commitment letter to Wake Forest, I believe is what I read. So a lot happened to you. Do you think you maturing quickly and having to handle these types of things is the reason why you are the leader you are now? Because I believe everybody, whenever it comes to NBA conversations, whenever it's negotiation, they go like, well, Chris Paul is a massive piece of it. The NFL is hoping that somewhere in a locker room around the 32 cities in which there are teams, there is a Chris Paul that business-wise can kind of lead the NFL whenever they're negotiating with the NFLPA. Do you think you matured early because of this situation? Do you think you were built for it? And how much of that is real versus how much of it is fair fairy tale that you were kind of piecing together behind the scenes?
Starting point is 01:53:31 That was a whole lot right there, Pat, to tell you the truth. Might be a chapter. I don't know which part to answer right there. All of them. I tell you, my grandfather's murder, I think it forced me to grow up early. Um, it showed me that nothing's promised. Tomorrow's not promised. And then my granddad did so much for my family.
Starting point is 01:53:53 You know what I mean? Not just, uh, spiritually and emotionally, but financially. And it wanted me to, it made me want to be that caregiver, caretaker for my family. Um, as far as the union stuff and and working as far as the pa i think that was just an interest that was something i always been curious i asked a lot of questions and you know i was on the executive committee for seven years before i was president for for eight years so it was just curiosity well you crush it everybody's looking for you and every other league so keep going go ahead aj ch'm wondering, like, with everything you do,
Starting point is 01:54:25 first off, I don't know how you do it. With how involved you are, it seems like you're also like this, you know, doing all this business stuff. You're an entrepreneur, and you're kind of the leader that people go to in the NBA. It feels like if they have a question, they need something done. What do you want to do post-NBA life?
Starting point is 01:54:39 Whenever you do plan on hanging them up, do you want to try to run the union? Do you want to try to run the league? What do you want to do? TV, obviously, is there as well. Run the country? Yeah, or no, not that. Definitely not that.
Starting point is 01:54:52 I'm over there to work with you, Pat. You got a spot for me. Absolutely. We got enough space for you. Now, granted, I will say, Foxy, how many free throws did you make in a row over there? 85. 85 straight's a record in here for free throws.
Starting point is 01:55:04 The amount of free throws, what's that you said 85 who made 85 yeah white kid from michigan the kids got all i can do chris it's all i got lefty it's beautiful too i mean he just sits in there and locks in how long does it take normally it's a good bit yeah it takes like over 10 minutes i'd say he's locked in though yeah i can never do that but there's records for you to be had here there's life for you to live here what do you's life for you to live here. What do you want to do? You're not even thinking about it because obviously your basketball career right now is being talked about everywhere. You know, you just got graded yesterday. How much are we playing for 10 more years? Do we have, have you thought about the future at all? Definitely not 10, but you, you think about it, Pat, like, you know what I'm
Starting point is 01:55:41 saying? You, you were athlete, you retired. And so so for me i've had a lot of guys that i've had an opportunity to talk to about that and for a lot of guys i've talked to they say when you start thinking about it then you're already done i'm still too in it i'm still too in it when i get done here i'm headed over to the union office to work out you know i mean i still just love what i do and uh, uh, when that time comes, you know, I'll face it. Finding gyms to work out in. That's a big part. Weren't you just in the, uh, you were over there in, uh, Hmm, LA somewhere, weren't you? I mean, you are, uh, you're in Washington now, aren't you? You're in Phoenix, Washington, New York. You're in LA. You talking about when I was working out? Yeah. At that gym? Yeah. In LA. Weren't you working out? You talking about when I was working out? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:22 At that gym? Yeah, in L.A.? Weren't you working out? You know what's so funny about that, Pat? And that's just to show you how crazy the internet is. Everybody was trying to say I was working out at the Lakers practice facility. That was not. That was a guy who lives in L.A. I'm not going to say his name, but those people who know, he has a house with the Lakers court in his gym that many people work out at all the time.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Okay. So you wanted to work out at all the time. Okay. So you wanted to work out there because you wanted to do it later? Is that why you wanted to do it? Because he lives close to me, and I've been working out there. I used to work out there even when I played for the Clippers. Oh, okay. You didn't tell him, hey, we need to change the paint. We need to change the paint just like they do over in Staples.
Starting point is 01:57:02 Now, crypto, that's out of business. We'll be going forward. Let's talk about the's out of business. What will it be going forward? Let's talk about the big news, though. And we talked to Sham Sharania earlier. He told us that you go from like a $15 million deal to like a $30 million deal. So congrats to that on that. If that's the truth on what I actually have. A business.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Looking good business with the book coming out. What are your thoughts on it all? It's not a nice deal, too, then. Yeah, pretty good, pretty good, pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, all right. Pretty good for everybody, for everybody. We all eat, we all eat. Yeah, yeah, all right.
Starting point is 01:57:28 We all eat. But what is your thoughts on this? I read that you were on Good Morning America. You said you found out about it while you were on the flight to Good Morning America. So you didn't see this coming, and what do you think the future looks like for you? What is your part in this whole thing?
Starting point is 01:57:42 I don't know. I was flying yesterday from new york uh no to new york from l.a and i got a text from my son that's how i found out and is it is what it is you know i'm saying i was sitting there i showed my wife or whatever because we was it was in the air and you know it's all right we gotta figure out what's next All right. We got to figure out what's next. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:06 What is? What is? What is? Here we go. What is? You know what I mean? That is, we all got to figure it out. Yeah. Hey, we're here to figure it out together.
Starting point is 01:58:14 Let's figure this out together. Okay, we get $30 million now instead of $15 million. Sweet. Washington Wizards, cool town. He's, hey, part of MBPA. DC's right there. Yeah, boom. We got a lot of movers and shakers.
Starting point is 01:58:26 We can do a lot of good stuff there. We don't mind that. I'm not the PA president no more. Yeah, but your fucking name. You got the resume. We want to wish you luck for everything. Wherever you end up, we hope you're happy. Sounds like you're still very committed to basketball, though.
Starting point is 01:58:42 No question. No question. My golf game needs some work, though, Pat. You remember that? Yeah, yeah, I that yeah yeah i do you beat me though i mean you played better than i did that's good was that my golf tournament was that five years ago yeah i think four or five yeah maybe barefoot barefoot out there hitting bombs hey i almost fell on my ass too and then yeah del curry made me putt out every foot putt if you do do recall. He was watching me booze all day, and then we would get up to the green. I'd be within a foot, and I'd be like, all right, waiting. Huh? Huh?
Starting point is 01:59:13 Anybody? He said, I need to see that. Bingo. I'm going to need to see that. Yeah, the first one I make, hell yeah. Second one again, huh? Huh? I'm going to need to see that.
Starting point is 01:59:24 Miss. He just walks off. You've always been good to us, though. Brett Favre was the craziest one. Brett Favre showed up in sneakers, no gloves, and just driving the green. Driving the green. Hits the ball far. Yeah, listen.
Starting point is 01:59:43 You can say whatever you want about Brett Favre. Okay? I'm going to stay away from it. That's right. His golf game was incredible, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah, listen, you can say whatever you want about Brett Favre. I'm going to stay away from it. That's right. His golf game was incredible, though. Oh, yeah. His golf game was incredible. Chris, yeah, I don't know if you heard.
Starting point is 01:59:56 You were busy in the middle of a basketball season, but damn, we were in the middle of it. Let's talk about some of the basketball, though, here, Chris. You've obviously been in the game a long time, long time. The game has evolved. Has it changed as much as people say from the outside looking in? Do you experience that? And what are your thoughts on the current state of basketball in the NBA right now? No question.
Starting point is 02:00:13 It changed. I mean, when I first came into the league, the games was ending at 85 to 80. Now that's the end of the third quarter. You know, but it's been so cool to be a part of it. You know what I mean? To play as long as I've been able to play. And it's been so cool to be a part of it you know what i mean to to play as long as i've been able to play and uh it's fun it's like i mean that like it's still fun yeah well you're crushing we got to see you obviously when you're playing the suns out there in la that night and you out there just the way people respond to you just you like your teammates fans every and he's over there dapping up every human
Starting point is 02:00:45 in the building. He's a big human. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's over there. Talking. How we doing? Big movers and shit. Hey, Wendy dropped on this show last week that you and him kind of pieced together the bubble. Is that true? That who did? You and Bob.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Yeah, yeah. That's my man. That's my guy right Bob? Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's my man. That's my guy right there. Man, Chris, absolutely crushing it. Yep.
Starting point is 02:01:11 We appreciate the hell out of you. Good luck on the book. All right. Appreciate it, Pat. Thank y'all too. Hey, thank you.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Paul. We're not going to get anything there. Could you imagine? He tells us where he'd like to go play basketball? Huge news. Why would he do that? Why not?
Starting point is 02:01:30 No chance of him saying that. Had to ask. Had to ask. But could you fathom? He goes, yeah, I was actually. Wizards. Yeah, not a chance. Can't do that.
Starting point is 02:01:39 What was going to happen? It would have been awesome, though. Yeah, if he just. You know what? I feel like playing with LeBron now. Are you going to read this book? Absolutely. We need somebody to read it.
Starting point is 02:01:48 All those things that you said right before, too. I had no idea. Yeah, him dropping 61 the day after his grandpa died for how old he was or whatever. The story was told that he was at the free throw line. He made the first free throw to get to 61, and then he just threw the ball away and then told coach, get me out of the game. So he stayed at 61 and then he was i guess a couple points away from a record obviously yeah could have easily got but he said not doing it for a grandpa and then now he's telling the stories that he learned from him i cannot wait to hear about him and thank you to
Starting point is 02:02:18 chris for joining us let's go to the five energy phone line here on this beautiful juneteenth 2023 hey that was something I talked about this at I started the show with it. We've learned about Juneteenth over the last couple years. We're not the only ones, AJ. You know that. I thought we were just bad people. Yeah. What do you mean we're not the only ones? Like, I think a lot of people had just learned about Juneteenth
Starting point is 02:02:37 over the last couple years. How long has it been a federal holiday? 2021. There it is. Thank you, Dirty. Shout out, Dirty. No problem. Hey, happy Juneteenth, Dirty.
Starting point is 02:02:50 Happy Juneteenth. Happy Juneteenth. Happy Juneteenth to everybody, actually. Happy Juneteenth to everybody. Think about that. Two years. Well, it wasn't in history books either. At least the ones that when I was in school, it wasn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Two years. Yeah. Emancipation, 1863. Okay, under 60 years. 1865. Seemingly, if you look back on whatever many years, small time. Imagine those two years.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Oh my gosh. I have no idea. Excuse me? Sorry for the hell. I forgot to tell you. Let's go to Skyler in Phoenix On the 5RNG phone line What's going on Skyler?
Starting point is 02:03:29 How you doing? Keeping moving Hell yeah I celebrated my first Father's Day yesterday So I wanted to make sure I wish all the dads there In the Thunderdome
Starting point is 02:03:36 A happy Father's Day Thank you To you and your first Father's Day Pat Thank you Skyler That's very kind of Skyler Happy Father's Day to you Skyler Happy Father's Day to you
Starting point is 02:03:43 Happy birthday Yeah let's go to Logan In Columbus, Ohio on a 5 Energy phone line. Happy birthday, man. Oh, it's not your birthday? Logan? Hey, how you doing? Keep moving. Hell yeah, all right.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Good, good, good. AJ, OH. I-O, big guy. Oh, boy. He just big-guided you, Logan. How you feel? Oh, yeah. He's a legendided you, Logan. How do you feel? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:09 He's a legend, you know, the mayor of Ohio. So he can do as he pleases. President. Not a mayor. He's not worried about pot. He's about to kick you out of Ohio. No, no, no. I think you like Logan, don't you, AJ, if you seem like it?
Starting point is 02:04:21 Oh, yeah. Anxiously awaiting what his question might be. Logan, can we get one more O-H for the team here? Yeah, O-H. Hi-oh, Logan. And? I just wanted to get your thoughts on the anonymous Big 12 coach calling West Virginia similar to a
Starting point is 02:04:37 Mac school this year. Who said that? I don't know. It's a Sports Illustrated article. It says anonymous Big 12 coach. I just wanted to get your thoughts on it. I mean, I know what the boys think of that, you know, bowl-cutted. Logan! You get the fuck off the phone, Logan.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Sports Illustrated's reporting this, Logan? That's not good. Yeah. Yeah, you have to go look it up. Anonymous Big 12 coach. You know, similarities to Mac. Called him soft, too, I think. What?
Starting point is 02:05:04 The Toledo Mountaineers is what they're saying, I heard. I mean, Toledo's a rocket, man. Yeah. Big Ben's from the Macs. He's a good player. Absolutely. There's not a lot of them, though. They play on Tuesdays.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Yeah. What are we talking about? I mean, how many? Nope. Don't do it. Do it. Do we? Too soon.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Okay. Oh. I thought it was something completely different. Yeah, I was going to say, how many Mac coaches have Miller lattes fucking just falling out of their... Bob Huggins has resigned as the West Virginia basketball coach. He was found very boozed up driving a vehicle in downtown Pittsburgh
Starting point is 02:05:35 after seeing the Taylor Swift concert. Blew.251. Had Miller lights rolling out of his car, allegedly. Had a flat tire and thought he was in Columbus, Ohio. Obviously, nobody should be operating something that can kill people in that state of mind. Not his first time.
Starting point is 02:05:55 Bob Huggins, after what happened on radio a couple months ago, has resigned and said that he needs to do a better job healing and being a human pretty much so now we have no basketball coach and an anonymous big 12 football coach is calling us a max school the fuck's going on in morgantown west virginia aj this is right where we want to be everybody thinks we're down now we're not we're not we're back aj that makes me even more pumped up about what we're about to do to the Big 12. Oh, Big 12, we're like a Mac school, huh?
Starting point is 02:06:28 You just brought in UConn. You want to bring in UConn? That's lower than a Mac school. Mac won't even have them. No, they won't. They're a basketball school, and that's what the Big 12 is going for. Bring them to the Big 10. West Virginia? Here's the quote here. Oh, no. This might be the worst roster in the league.
Starting point is 02:06:46 That's a tough line to start with. They they have some talent but they're not physical at all they're really small especially compared to the old W I don't know I kind of now you like him now you like him the defense is legitimately bad they look like a Mac team compared to the rest of the league
Starting point is 02:07:02 and Neil Brown didn't fire his coaches he's a really loyal guy but it's also a sign. He knows it's a personnel issue. They lost JT Daniels and Graham Harrell. I think you can say that experiment didn't work out like they thought it would. I'd say Powell. Thanks. That's a tough quote.
Starting point is 02:07:17 This guy's making some salient points. Yeah, he does make a lot of points. He's helping Neil Brown, though. Isn't he helping Neil Brown saying their roster's not good? So it's like, hey, it's not on the coach. It's his roster. It's the thing in college. Five years, six years.
Starting point is 02:07:29 Maybe good coach, not as good a recruiter. Maybe it's two different things in college. Well, Coach JB very early said he was not going to be a good recruiter. He knew. Oh, yeah. I think the thing about it is when you go like this, when your thing's trust the climb, trust the climb, we're going to have to rebuild here, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:07:49 You know, when you get hired. Right. Trust the climb. And you do start to kind of make some strides. Okay, hey, we're good, we're good, we're going to do good. And then all of a sudden that climb becomes a plateau slash descent while you're the coach the entire time recruiting the entire thing. It's your people.
Starting point is 02:08:05 You just got to hope, I guess, that there's a climb coming on the other side that's very steep, very quick. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because we can't do another fucking rolling hill. No, not climbing anymore. Can't do another rolling hill. We need a Honnold climb.
Starting point is 02:08:18 Talk to the AD. If I'm the head coach, Neil Brown, I'm like, okay, our roster may not be great. Let's get a little break in schedule with some cupcakes possibly. Nope. If you want. I know we've had that schedule. We've gone through it.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Their schedule is brutal for football. We're set up to be 4-0. Well. That is how anybody would want to be. We go into Happy Valley week one. How you doing? Keep it moving. We go to Duquesne, of course.
Starting point is 02:08:40 Yep. The dude. Well, good luck. Hit primetime. Thank you. Redemption for their old friend Pat. West Virginia wins that one. Now we're 3-0 staring down game day every weekend.
Starting point is 02:08:50 That's all Neil Brown has to do. Or on the flip side, you got a happy valley. Yeah. You get exposed up there because they can't run the ball. Right. James Franklin doesn't make all the right decisions all the time. We've all seen it. No.
Starting point is 02:09:00 A lot of things that we go, this guy. Give me. What's this guy? But what they do is the potential to maybe still Big Ten football team. And with what this guy's saying about the team being very small, there's a chance that even if they're not clicking on all
Starting point is 02:09:15 cylinders offensively, they could maybe bully West Virginia. That's what this guy's saying. He also said their defense is legitimately bad. And then you go to Duquesne. You lose to Duquesne. Exactly. If they lose to Duquesne, he'll get fired. They're And then you go to Duquesne. You lose to Duquesne. Exactly. If they lose to Duquesne, he'll get fired. They're not going to lose to Duquesne.
Starting point is 02:09:29 Garrett Green ain't going to lose to Duquesne. They should not and probably won't. What, AJ? Hold up, AJ. Hold the – We don't know. We do not know what's going to happen. They haven't even started camp yet, so we cannot say one way or the other
Starting point is 02:09:43 whether Duquesne – I heard reports are Duquesne's looking legit in their offseason. Yeah, they always do. They're big. And that's a classic physical team. I don't care who you got sandwiched between Penn State and Pitt. If you're West Virginia, that is a classic letdown spot. Not against the Dukes. We understand when we're – is that an away game in front of 1,400?
Starting point is 02:10:01 No, no, no, no, no, no. First off, that'd be about 6,000. Okay, sorry about that. I believe it believe it's happening also the jail right there everybody's trying to pick their head up there oh it's also pretty crazy that you have a little respect for fucking author jay rooney stadium i did a lot of soccer on that okay in that place i got a lot of respect for that place anyways it's right above a jail where are you guys it is neil brown's entire career is coming down to a game against the dukene Dukes, and that's kind of reflective of what Neil Brown is.
Starting point is 02:10:28 We beat the Duquesne Dukes by 30 to 40 points. Maybe. Maybe, too. That might be the only one you get until, you know, September 2024. Garrett Green ain't going to let this happen. Garrett Green's about to run wild, brother. Well, it sounds like even if they score 50, the defense is giving up 65 a pop. That's how it happens.
Starting point is 02:10:47 So to your point, though, about the AD, we got a brand-new AD, Wren Baker. This guy's the guy. This guy's the guy. He didn't make this schedule because these happen years in advance. Yeah, Wren is trying to probably cook the books as we speak, trying to make things right. It's not as easy.
Starting point is 02:11:01 You know, Deion said, they got a schedule right now against T.C. Open. We'll see and then Dion saw yeah that's set yeah college isn't necessarily like the easiest thing to kind of maneuver around Ren Baker will do all the maneuvering that we need to maneuver yeah it just hit me about about West Virginia too they're not going to get that top three prospect in basketball oh yeah all those guys who were going to transfer in. They had a couple, I thought, right?
Starting point is 02:11:25 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Multiple. See ya. They're out. See ya. With, I mean, in light of all that stuff, there were some pretty cool clips of Bob Huggins.
Starting point is 02:11:32 Like, I believe it was the Missoula team when a player got hurt on West Virginia. Sean Butler, yes. Yeah. That was really cool. Yeah, it was really cool. Everybody's saying, bring Missoula back. Oh, really?
Starting point is 02:11:43 Yeah, I saw a couple people say that. Yeah, he's way too big for West Virginia, though. What are you talking about? West Virginia, look, we can just say it. They're not a sports school, okay? West Virginia is now an academic titan in the state of West Virginia. They are not a sports school. I've always said they're the Harvard of West Virginia.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Exactly. That is no different. Harvard's pretty good at sports, actually. The thing about West Virginia is... So the thing about Harvard, their football team, we beat them by 50. Sure. There it is. Their rifle team, guess what?
Starting point is 02:12:10 Yeah. We beat them by 50 as well. Call the AP right now and get West Virginia in the Ivy League today. That's not a bad play. Hey. That is what you do. Ren Baker, not a bad play. I think we lose that on a lot of money because nobody watches those games,
Starting point is 02:12:23 so the TV deals aren't going to be that great. Sure. Nobody's going to see the games. They're already tough to see, but I don't like what people are saying about stuff. The Mac is awesome, Pat. Come on. You'd love to be in the Mac. I had an offer to be in the Mac, and I turned that down.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Primetime games. West Virginia gets some of those primetime games. Every Tuesday night? Are you kidding me? So we were Mr. Thursday nights before the NFL was on Thursday. You guys were a bigger team. We were. Yeah, bigger, more physical. Actually, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:51 Tougher, better. Yeah, the guy kind of put me in a pickle there. He did. Because it's everything that I've kind of said. And he put you guys over while saying everything you said. Yeah, but Coach Blaine Stewart, he's going to get it figured out. Yeah, make him the head coach. College football soon.
Starting point is 02:13:06 How soon is NFL football? NFL football is actually exactly 80 days away. Let's go. Wow. College is before then, right? Yeah, I think college is probably like 72. You got week zero, which is like two weeks before. True.
Starting point is 02:13:17 Week one's a week before. Here we go. In the 60s for college football. We can do this. We can do this. Yeah, we're so close. We're watching golf. Yeah, not to mention the road to Tahoe.
Starting point is 02:13:25 You know? That's kind of a good little. Tahoe's happening. We're chipping balls. We're shooting balls. Very close to that. We're answering calls. What?
Starting point is 02:13:34 Huh? You got anything? Keep going. No, I want to use. Oh, you want to get in some balls out there? Oh. Crawford, he's fighting. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:13:42 Against Earl. Pooping in stalls. What? Draining in stalls. What? Draining in stalls. Okay. I was talking about our program. We're not getting that. I was still rhyming.
Starting point is 02:13:52 Getting in brawls, pooping in stalls. 68 days until college football is either just told me. Boom. Let's go. Let's go. That's huge. That's not that far. That's like next week.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Yeah. See? Well, I mean, technically it's like 10 of them. Yeah. Does it Well, I mean, technically it's like 10 of them, but. Yeah. Yeah. Does it start earlier next year? Once they expand the playoffs, aren't they starting a week earlier?
Starting point is 02:14:12 Dude said August to January 20th. Maybe just everyone. That's what McGee said. Yeah. And, well, he would know. Were you on for McGee? You weren't. You missed McGee.
Starting point is 02:14:20 Yeah, no, I sent him a couple clips. He sent me a clip of, yeah, he was what? He likes his home life. He likes his family, too, or something. Yeah, he's got to see his wife. He loves us, but he's got to see his wife. What do you think about what he was doing there in his head when he started giggling there? Oh, I don't know. Probably just thinking
Starting point is 02:14:34 about us, you know, all hanging out around a fire and him, you know, hitting the hay. That's probably what it was. Yep. Let's go to the phone. 68's are going to be long days. It's a lot of days. It's not that many. We're so close to nine phone. 68's are going to be long days. It's a lot of days. It's not that many.
Starting point is 02:14:47 We're so close to nine weeks. The days are long, but the time is fast. Amen. Well said. That's a classic kid line you have on a plaque. Mug. It's like what they say about college. It is, though, man.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Nine weeks, that's half the NFL season. Jeez Louise. We already know which teams are going. It is long, but it's not, though. Yeah. We already know which. are going. Yeah. We already know which. Long, but it's not. What's that, AJ?
Starting point is 02:15:07 Sorry to cut you off. It is long, but it's not. Be here before you know it, man. Things go way too fast. Thank you, Hawks. Cheeky. Fucking soft hand. I'm playing pretty good little golf right now.
Starting point is 02:15:19 AJ, you doing this in Youngstown? What's that? That's how? Get in. Great hands, man. This is how AJ plays fetch with Axel. Is that a cross ball? No. Knee hockey.
Starting point is 02:15:37 Oh! Axel makes you like macaroni pain. A little softer. Just in case they hit the wall, won't scuff it up for you. It's got to the phones, but they're harder than just a foam ball. Exactly. It's a foam ball that is hardened.
Starting point is 02:15:50 It's almost like a foam ball got hit with hairspray. Yeah. It's got to the phones. It's got to Ethan in Arkansas. What's going on, pal? Oh, nothing much, boys. How we doing? Keep it moving.
Starting point is 02:16:00 What part of Arkansas are you in? Northwest Arkansas. Whoopig. Suey. Hell, yeah. Where's that at? What Arkansas are you in? Northwest Arkansas. Whoopig. Suey. Hell yeah. Where's that at? What state is up there in northwest Arkansas? Like the Fayetteville area.
Starting point is 02:16:12 Yeah, but what states are up there? I mean, we got like states around Arkansas? Yeah. Yeah. In the northwest fashion, more specifically. What? Oklahoma. We got Missouri.
Starting point is 02:16:24 You know, Texas, Louisianaiana and just a bunch of shit no no dogs dogs dogs dogs yeah we got some dogs but you know arkansas that's right in the middle of arkansas is like right in the middle of the country yeah did you know that obviously yeah yeah very pretty too it's great countryside yeah where'd we go? We were down in Darnell. We were in Darnell, Arkansas, down there in the south. That was a good time. It was a good time with John Daly. Arkansas is obviously...
Starting point is 02:16:50 It's a dry county, but it was a good time. A lot of Miller Lights. A lot of lights. And then we had a Jake Owens concert. Yep. That guy fucking killed it. And I tried to play his guitar, and he kicked me off his bus. 3 a.m.
Starting point is 02:16:59 What's going on, Ethan? He's a golfer. Is he at the... I was breaking the strings. I was really doing it. I was ripping it. I don't know. He should strings. I was really doing it. I was ripping it. I don't know. He should be.
Starting point is 02:17:07 He was there last year. Super handsome. Very talented. He might have had 30 beers and then did a concert and sounded amazing. Yep, stud. It was... You showed him how to play guitar. Throwback.
Starting point is 02:17:18 It was fantastic to watch. I was very impressed. I mean, we're talking... I love when you hear that. Real throwback country artist. That's what country music used to be. Bro, he was barefoot in that fucking thing too. Hammered.
Starting point is 02:17:28 I don't think he was drunk when he was singing somehow. I don't know if he got an IV or waters or whatever. But he was drinking with us all day. We're talking hammered drunk. He was drinking with us all day. Long day. Drinking all day through his golf tournament. And then he takes like an hour and a half nap.
Starting point is 02:17:43 I guess he like washed off. And then next time we see him, he's up there ripping it, singing his ass off, not forgetting a single song. And he went for like two and a half hours or something like that. It was unbelievable. Never been more impressed with somebody. You played in Batman. I did.
Starting point is 02:17:58 I was trying to teach him stuff on the guitar. And he had to go to bed at some point. He was top ten at Tahoe. Yeah, he's unbelievable. He's a god. Really? They need to put a guitar in his goddamn hand. No matter what.
Starting point is 02:18:08 No matter what level of sobriety he's at, put a guitar in his hand. He is good. He was up there on the long drive for a little bit too until AJ knocked him off. He's a real talent, this guy. This guy's a player. This guy's a real talent.
Starting point is 02:18:17 Anyways, he's not from Arkansas. He's from Florida, actually. Ethan in Arkansas. What do you want to talk about, pal? I got two quick questions for you guys. First, I want to say shout out to all the dads. Happy late Father's Day Florida, actually. Ethan in Arkansas. What do you want to talk about, pal? I got two quick questions for you guys. First, I want to say shout out to all the dads. Happy late Father's Day. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:18:30 And, you know, Pac-Man, quite a fucking dog, dude. And congratulations on being the sellouts you guys are. Congrats on that whole deal getting done. Thank you. Thank you. But I just wanted to ask about the deal getting done. You know, are we still have access to this show on Spotify? Because I'm busy.
Starting point is 02:18:46 I'm working all the time. I didn't know. Is it still going to be kind of a podcast thing? Or am I going to have to go to YouTube to catch up with you guys? Great question, Ethan. I believe that all remains the same. Yep. I believe.
Starting point is 02:18:57 Yep. Boom. I saw a lot of people asking that. I didn't even. I didn't think that there was even a consideration that it would change. Me neither. I don't think so. Why would they not want it to be on Spotify? Yeah. I don't think people there was even a consideration that it would change. Me neither. I don't think so. Why would they not want it to be on Spotify?
Starting point is 02:19:06 Yeah. I don't think people will listen on Spotify. Dude, we got some real people that listen. Oh, yeah. A lot of people still listen. Anywhere you find podcast. That's cool. People still listen to them.
Starting point is 02:19:14 Just forget about that. Ty writes a full fucking blog. Believe me. Sometimes I'll look over because his word per minute is incredibly high. Damn. Thank you, Ty. You're welcome. Thank you to Ethan in Arkansas.
Starting point is 02:19:30 Listen on Spotify. Anybody listening to the podcast right now, we appreciate you. We should thank you, though. We'll get better at that. Yeah. Right, AJ? We're going to get better at that. That's gold. Yeah, we will.
Starting point is 02:19:43 Hell yeah. Let's have a podcast minute. This is just for the podcast minutes. Dump it. Dump it. No, we will. Hell yeah. Let's have a podcast minute. This is just for the podcast minutes. Dump it. Dump it. No, no. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:48 Yeah. Dump it from the video. From live. Yep. Podcasters, we love you guys. Hey, don't forget to subscribe and like. That's right. We need reviews too, please.
Starting point is 02:19:57 Podcars, please. Please, please. We appreciate the hell out of you. All right, let's get back to the live show. All right. So we just got done showing our love for the people that listen to the podcast, in which there is a lot of them. We're very thankful for them. And we should think about them more,
Starting point is 02:20:10 but we're just live rants. You know what I mean? We're just live rants. I couldn't even imagine comparing us to other podcasts that are well thought out, well edited. Not that you don't do a good job. You get what I'm saying. Every single segment. And we're just fucking We gotta be shit as a podcast but we appreciate everybody that's listening. Well I mean
Starting point is 02:20:27 now I'm just spitballing here. I heard if you're on Spotify you could just have guests on and have like interns ask the questions and then record yourself asking that question and then edit it in. Yeah but they're not going to pay you for that are they? No yeah like 20 million
Starting point is 02:20:44 they'll pay you for it. What? Yeah. That seems like the right job. Yeah, you only have to do 12 episodes, too. What? Who's doing that? That's all. The Royals, Meghan Markle.
Starting point is 02:20:53 Nah, they're ex-Royals, right? Yeah, not my fucking Royals. So Meghan Markle, oh yeah, I did read this. I don't think they even put an episode out. 12 of them. Yeah. They actually did? I believe so.
Starting point is 02:21:03 Allegedly. But apparently other people were asking the questions and then she would just record herself asking it and then I would just edit it in as if she was asking it. Oh, there it is. Slim dunk, baby. That was a Bruins ball too. Nice.
Starting point is 02:21:16 See, the podcasters don't get to see that. Yeah, but this is for video only because we also just did Spotify only. Two for one. Get in. Come on, AJ. For five merches. Five merches.
Starting point is 02:21:31 It's going in. And 500 from AJ. Is that the unduffable? What is the unduffable? I haven't duffed yet. There was a lot of that yesterday. Long putts. Yeah, so close. Dustin Johnson was like three, four a lot of that yesterday. Long putts. Yeah, so close.
Starting point is 02:21:46 Dustin Johnson was like three, four putts away. Yeah. Like real close. It was great. I thought Scottie was going to do it. Didn't you think Scottie was going to make a run? Oh, yeah. So Justin Thomas and Ricky Fowler were boozed up watching Sunday.
Starting point is 02:21:59 Homer. Sorry. Justin Thomas and Max Homer were boozed up watching Sunday's action. And Justin Thomas puts out a tweet that he and Max Homer are talking or whatever Max thinks it's going to be 10 under that's going to win I think it's going to be 9 under Scotty has a chance to get into the mix
Starting point is 02:22:13 and as you're watching it unfold you're like these fucking guys are spot on at one point it was 11 maybe a chance of 12 somebody just missed a birdie putt and they're like it's going to be 10 or it's going to be 9 just kind of reading the room and understanding it it's like i wish that maybe you know justin and other guys who seemingly would do more of that yes if you're not in for the weekend and i know you don't get much time off we would love to follow along with your thoughts
Starting point is 02:22:37 because as soon as justin tweets that and max tweets that i'm feeling completely differently i'm like okay so these golfers are expecting to have a bogey or a blown hole, as opposed to just being like, I got to be perfect throughout this whole thing. It seemed like from the top-tier golfers that were in the tournament, they're like, okay, a bogey's coming here, a bogey's coming there for somebody. It's like a completely different mindset as you view and watch the entire thing. I was very appreciative of that yesterday. Yeah, I even thought of it when I saw, I know Justin Thomas missed the cut.
Starting point is 02:23:05 I'm like, it would suck and he wouldn't enjoy it. But what if they got him on the coverage for the last two days? What if he jumps on the mic and he's walking in the fairways with Noda Begay or whatever following the leaders? It would be awesome to see that. Well, and Smiley Kaufman was on there. I think he did a great job. I heard him pop in a little bit.
Starting point is 02:23:21 The caddy, me too, the caddy for Wyndham said, like, be an athlete here. Yeah. You know? And I think Smiley was the one saying that. And it felt like the way Smiley was saying, it's like, hey, that's a conversation that happens in golf a lot. Like, just got to be an athlete. Well, how many yards do I got to put it here? Hey, be an athlete here. Feel it out. Do it. It was nice to hear, like, those little things that you don't normally hear. And I think ex-players who play well, Smiley being one of them, have kind of a little bit different information,
Starting point is 02:23:49 a little different knowledge about how they actually view the game as opposed to us just bouncing hole to hole watching shots the entire time. I enjoyed it. It added a little depth to the coverage for me, just those couple tweets. And they were threatening going live. It's like, well, go on, Ned. Go on, Ned. Please. Yeah, PGA responded too. The PGA Tour account was like, hey, we'll then Go on then PGA responded too
Starting point is 02:24:05 The PGA Tour account was like, hey, we'll give you the password to our account and you can go live on Go on then, son Go on then, you know what I mean, AJ We're looking for it, I was looking for it I think, honestly, don't you think we will see that in the future more? I hope so
Starting point is 02:24:20 Because they want to get their score up too Don't they still do that? You get paid at the end of the year if you have a high IQ score or whatever? Yeah, but would that count? I don't know if that would count towards it. It'll help get interaction and stuff. It's all like on impressions and interaction. Yeah, people tweeting about it.
Starting point is 02:24:33 Okay, sick. Then good. Make money off the whole thing as well. But with how accurate they ended up being. It's like, would like to hear more of these types of predictions, please. Because I could potentially drop it off gambling. I'd be pretty sure. Myself and Max Homer
Starting point is 02:24:46 are on our second glass of rosé and debate and go on Instagram Live to share our thoughts on the golf. Yes, please. And then all of a sudden, I think 9-under wins. Max thinks 10-under. I think Scotty has a serious chance to stage a comeback and get in the mix. It's like, happened, happened, happened. All these things happened.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Because there was a chance there we thought Rory sitting in 9-under was going to push a playoff. Yes. And I think their playoffs are big, right? Would it be three? I think U.S. Open does like it. It used to be 18. It did, yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:12 I think they changed it because that's when Tiger played the next day on like a broken leg against Rory Sabatini. And that won. I believe it was Sabatini. They would have had to go next day, right? If there was a playoff, it was getting so dark. It was dark. Rocco immediately. Also, it was Rocco 30 minutes earlier.
Starting point is 02:25:27 Also, shout out Scottie Scheffler. I believe it's like 16 straight events where it's top 12, but there's only like one top 12. They're basically all top five fucking top eight. This weekend's golf tournament, all top eight are playing in there. Yep. Got some real horses swinging for a purse of 20 mil. Huge.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Remember that 20 mil has always been around, even before Liv. Yep. Just wasn't being used. Think about that. Think about that. Better for the golf fans. What's Jay Monahan? Is Jay Monahan okay?
Starting point is 02:25:50 Stepped away. We don't know. We hope. Hopefully. Medical situation or medical emergency? What'd they say? Some conspiracy situation.
Starting point is 02:25:59 Really flowing this weekend. Okay. Well, of course the internet's gonna have thoughts. And it was awesome. What'd they say? What'd they say? Just Antarctica, your typical stuff. That one's
Starting point is 02:26:10 wild. Oh, did you see they found the backyard footage of the alien? Pretty cool. Where? Super cool. The hidden camera found it. It's hiding behind something. I sent it on Sunday morning. I said, I wish I could believe this. I lived in a world
Starting point is 02:26:24 where I could believe it. Oh, yeah. I did see that. I said it on Sunday morning. I said, I wish I could believe this. I lived in a world where I could believe it. Oh, yeah, I did see that. I did see that. I believe it. That thing, if that's what it looks like, long arms on that something. Long arms. Exposed ribs, though.
Starting point is 02:26:35 I think you'd crack a couple ribs. I saw a breakdown. So, just real quick. We believe sketch artists, whenever they draw up some fat that did something terrible and killed somebody. True. We won't believe killed somebody. Yeah, true. We won't believe this kid describing an...
Starting point is 02:26:47 What do you mean you can see it? That's all I think. That's a tree right there. That's a 50-foot tree. Is it pooping? Is it a tail? Yeah, I think it's got a little half one like Chuck Corgi. Yeah, I saw a Corgi this weekend.
Starting point is 02:27:01 It was not the same size. Pretty crazy. Who took this video? Or this was like a Nest Cam or something? Yeah. All right. It was not the same. It was pretty crazy. Who took this video? This was like a Nest Cam or something? Yeah. All right. It's kind of a fence. I believe this is a sketch artist.
Starting point is 02:27:13 Yeah. There was a breakdown of the Vegas video, and someone said that they could see the alien's hands next to the fence that they were walking through. Really? It's a nice little breakdown, but I did think it was a little bit of a foo game. A lot of alien stuff, really? Next to the fence that they were walking through. Really? It's a nice little breakdown, but I did think it was a little bit of a foo game. A lot of alien stuff, huh? This weekend, some guy came out.
Starting point is 02:27:30 Where's the crash? Where's the crash? They picked it up. What do you mean they moved it? These two guys, okay, these little aliens are hiding behind a chainsaw, and somehow they found a way to pick up a whole spacecraft and take it out of there? Yeah, they lost their backpack that they're able to put the entire thing in. They camouflage, idiot.
Starting point is 02:27:47 They're naked. Obviously, they crash and go through the windshield. The windshield takes all their clothes off. They lose their backpack that they're able to put their shuttle in. What do you think this is, dude? There was a whistleblower that came out and said something and then somebody else came out and said, yeah, what I've heard is very similar to that and that person allegedly in a position to hear it.
Starting point is 02:28:03 So we got one. The government allegedly got one. Oh, more than one. I would expect, because some of the things that I've seen is that this goes way back. This isn't like a new thing. A craft or a bean? Both. Both. Now, who knows what's real and what isn't real, obviously, in this whole world of everything.
Starting point is 02:28:20 That's tough. I mean, actually everything. Yeah. That world seems like there's been a lot of smoke coming out of it real quick what's going on over here AJ what is it
Starting point is 02:28:40 what is it maybe we don't need to always be hunting for what this is let's just enjoy that this is coming. That's right. And let's learn as much as we can about this. Because if this is... What sports are they playing? True.
Starting point is 02:28:53 You know? That'd be nice. What if we really like one of their sports? What if they have like a pickleball? That we love. Yeah. I can't wait for that. What if they have some fitness routine to make them look like it?
Starting point is 02:29:03 Like, oh, actually, arms used to look like yours, and then we started doing this and look at the arms. Watch this. You want to be 10 feet tall? Boom. Kind of. You want to be able to jump over that fence? Yeah. That'd be cool. We got this stuff. Go ahead and do a little of this, do a little of that. What if that's what the aliens potentially are offering right now? That'd be sweet. What if things are very, very good? Yeah. Now, on the flip
Starting point is 02:29:19 side, what if they're not? Now, that one I just seen there was crouching down, scared to get punched in the mouth. Don't need to punch him What if they're not? Now, that one I just seen there was crouching down, scared to get punched in the mouth. What? Don't need to punch him in the mouth, though. Right, AJ? Let's talk to these things. I mean, you can try.
Starting point is 02:29:31 Let's see how it goes. AJ, I'll do the talking, okay? Jeez. I would love to see. I would love to come across one of these beans. So much. Just to chat, just to figure it out. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 02:29:42 Then I'm going to get my camera out, my phone. I'm going to start fumbling around. I'm going to drop my phone three or four times and say, here we go. Look, here's footage of this alien I saw in my backyard. AJ, stop pointing out how every Bigfoot video and alien video and UFO video looks the exact blurry same. That's all going to change, they're saying. That's all going to change. With these new iPhones.
Starting point is 02:30:00 It already has. What are you going to say to them, AJ, when you talk to one of these beings, as you call it? Is that what they're labeled, beings? Let's see what they're doing. Ask them, what's your intentions? What are you going to say to him, AJ, when he talks to one of these beings, as you call it? Is that what they're labeled? Beings? Let's see what they're doing. So ask him, what's your intentions? How are you doing? Where are you from?
Starting point is 02:30:11 How'd you get here? Welcome to Ohio. I am the president. Welcome to my town. What's your body fat percentage? Are you going to try them? Are you going to try to spear them like that guy in Lake Tahoe? With those long arms, you know they can't bench press 225 more than six or seven
Starting point is 02:30:25 times. You can break that down easy. We have breaking news. John Morant has responded to the allegations that his team and he believe that the NBA and the media are out to get him. He retweeted a that's cap, that's cap, that's cop,
Starting point is 02:30:42 that's crop tweet from Mo Wells. And Mo cap. That's cop. That's crop. Tweet from Mo Wells. And Mo knows. Yes, he does. So, Ja Morant saying that's a bunch of bullshit. Maybe back in the day I felt this way, but it's the current state of mind. I do not. That's good news, Ja.
Starting point is 02:30:56 Yeah, here we go. Here we go, Ja. Here we go, Ja. And Sean said it earlier. He didn't think that there was any leg to that either. So, why is this news getting broken? Because people just need something to talk about or because that was the news back in the day
Starting point is 02:31:08 and the people that maybe were around back in the day who have now been kicked to the side so that there can be real growth are trying to still remain relevant in the fact that they were in Jaws orbit. Yeah, that sounds like the most likely. That makes sense. Well, we need to stop with that, okay?
Starting point is 02:31:21 Jaws trying to live and grow. Good luck out there, Jaws. Go get them, Jaws. We're pulling for you. Don't fuck up again, though, Josh. It's going to be tough for us to keep sticking up for you. Stay home, play ball. Stay home, play ball, beat your bop, do your thing.
Starting point is 02:31:32 Exactly. Pretty simple. Until you retire, then do Paul Pierce. You can be Paul. You can be Paul Pierce. And he's renting girlfriends. You can be Jake Plummer who's growing mushrooms, I think. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:31:43 You can be a full-time gumbler, maybe live in Vegas in a sportsbook. Yeah. Could run a shooting range. He just un-retweeted that. We have breaking news. No. Oh, no. Fuck. He un-retweeted my own nose. Okay. Not good. He remembers
Starting point is 02:31:59 he's not allowed to be on social media. So maybe it's maybe. Oh, yeah. He did the goodbye thing. But maybe also this was retweets or not endorsements. True. Situation where since we took it the way we took it, he's like, no, no, no. It's not cap. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:32:15 Maybe he's saying it is bullshit the way they're treating me. Maybe he's saying it is cap the way I'm being viewed. We don't know. We'll keep our eyes on his Twitter account that's supposed to be inactive. Well, maybe T. Morant. He had to tell him, like, hey, I actually was down at the local watering hole, and I might have said, feels like they're attacking my son. I was having a couple
Starting point is 02:32:34 beers. Well, it's to me. Don't actually. How about Chris Paul bringing up Brett Favre? He knew. I don't think he did. How about Foxy trying to catch me in there? I'm walking off camera. Foxy's like, don't worry, we got more. We'll keep you right in the middle of this thing.
Starting point is 02:32:49 I'm like, get me out of here. Me and Brett can run into each other one day, you think? AJ, you're friends with him. You know him. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will, right? I'll go, Brett, how you doing? Thank you for costing me those lawyer fees. But I did get to learn a lot about a lot. Oh, shit, Pat. Don't worry about it. You should see my lawyer fees. But I did get to learn a lot about a lot. Oh, shit, Pat.
Starting point is 02:33:06 Don't worry about it. You should see my lawyer fees. Yeah. Dude, they're going to be so much. Yep. So much. Not cheap. It was never cheap.
Starting point is 02:33:16 I'm kind of seeing that now, you know, how much it costs. Per word almost. You know what I mean? You can really start breaking the number down. A lot of bill I mean? You can really start breaking the number down. A lot of billable hours. You can really start breaking it all down. And they deserve it.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Shout out, Sarah. Shout out, Sarah. K&L Gates, shout out. Great work, great work. I was like, yeah, we can make somebody else pay for this, right? That's how it works. I hate to break the ads. Normally not.
Starting point is 02:33:40 I mean, yeah, people say that all the time, but it does not normally ever happen or whatever. They can pay if they lose. Well, they certainly did the work, didn't they? That's like whenever I got a franchise tag. Really? I was told that I was supposed to pay an agent. It's like, you didn't, right? You didn't do your job.
Starting point is 02:33:53 Yeah. That's why the franchise tag happened. Because you. I'm not doing that. Because we couldn't. So, that's going to be a no for me, dog. Here's 20 bucks. Couldn't find a meter.
Starting point is 02:34:04 No. Let's go to the funds. Let's go to fun let's go to tanner in chicago chicago's in a bad spot huh yeah oh my god has been for a little geez louise hope tanner's okay tanner what's going on pal hey pat what's going on boys uh i'm feeling really good um father's day just came up and your message at the beginning really inspired me because I did lose my father in 2018, so I really appreciate that. I really wanted to talk about the connection between Justin Fields and DJ Moore. I know on Friday we talked a little bit about Chase Claypool, but I really want to dive in more to DJ Moore and Justin Fields and is it really going to change the
Starting point is 02:34:46 Chicago landscape and is it going to give us uh what do you think Tanner what do you think you know it's hard to say because I've been seeing like uh records going oh we might make wild card but honestly I can see them I can I can see them making wild cards. Not going to lie. Okay. Tanner loves DJ more. Remember what's being said about Chase Claypool can all be changed in literally a day. Yep. Okay? That can all be flipped completely around, especially if they're winning.
Starting point is 02:35:14 The only conversation, though, that has to happen any time you talk about the Bears is the fact that we forget this because Carolina Panthers made a play. They had the number one pick in the draft this past year. Worst team in the NFL. Earned it. Same quarterback, same head coach, maybe another year where they bring in another weapon and they go on and do their thing in an NFC North that lost its big
Starting point is 02:35:36 bad wolf. So maybe the Chicago Bears sneak into that wild card. That'd be fun, huh, ZD, baby? That would be awesome. Realistic thoughts on Chicago Bears? Dude, everything I'm learning from seeing from the Bears tweets, huh, ZD, baby? That would be awesome. What are your realistic thoughts on Chicago Bears? Dude, everything I'm learning from seeing from the Bears tweets, obviously from the Bears, but DJ Moore and Justin Fields is going to be an unstoppable weapon.
Starting point is 02:35:53 Oh, really? Okay. What are they high-fiving, dapping each other up? They got a handshake? You have no idea. These routes they're running. So crisp. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:03 Let's go to Dalton in Nashville on a 5-hour NG phone line. Dalton, what's going on? Is this nailing it here? Yes. Oh, he's on the phone. Oh, he is. He's on the phone with someone else. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:36:14 What's here? He's going to threaten somebody. That's what it tells me a lot. It's just really like everyone projects insecurity. He's gone through some. Hope everything works out, Dalton.
Starting point is 02:36:34 Peace and peace, Dalton. Sorry, Dalton. Stay safe out there. He's got two phones in his car or something. He has a car phone. I hope he's okay, though. Hey, Dalton. Dalton, we hope you're alright. He's got two phones in his car or something? He has a car phone. You don't have a car phone? I hope he's okay, though, honestly.
Starting point is 02:36:47 Hey, Dalton. Dalton, we hope you're all right. Everybody is projecting their insecurities. You're right. Fuck them all, Dalton. We're on your side, Dalton. Get him, Dalton. I'm part of the 9%.
Starting point is 02:36:56 Jeez, Luis. Man. I'm about to get heavy. I'm genuinely worried about Dalton. What if he would have said something to his wife? He's like, hey, you made sure you buried that body 10 to 12 feet deep. What if something like that happened? I didn't think about that.
Starting point is 02:37:13 Obviously, I'm happy that was your angle. In my head, he was about to say something. Yeah, I thought the opposite. Very, very. Yeah. Yeah, I thought he was going to say something. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:23 Yeah. That's a thing, I guess. That could happen. Oh, yeah. We were a fly on the wall in that room of Dalton's. Oh, my God. I know it was the right thing to do. It wasn't just us.
Starting point is 02:37:32 I know it was the right thing to do. Yeah, there's no way I could sit through that guy anymore. He's talking to his therapist. Yeah. I was ready to sit through that entire conversation until he said bye to that lady. Imagine we did 20 minutes of that. Oh, no. It was for Spotify, for the podcast
Starting point is 02:37:48 listeners. Let's go to Brad in Indiana on the 5RNG phone line. What's going on, Brad? Hope everything's okay. How's it going? Better than Dalton. Dalton's having a rough time. He's going to figure it out, though. I'm a Bears fan here. I just want to say
Starting point is 02:38:04 AJ Hawk, thanks for your dash, brother. Thanks for your dash. Hell yeah. Thank you, Dash. Amen. You don't even know what that is, AJ. Dash? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:15 Your dash. You're your born. You're your dash. Come on, dude. Oh, okay. Thanks for your dash. Your dash. Wow, AJ doesn't watch the show Geez
Starting point is 02:38:27 He's probably on vacation Is that a Brad set? Wow You're welcome, bud I think AJ's got some Competition for champion of Ohio next year Why? What happened? A lady in Ohio Bought a 10-foot werewolf, keeping it up all year round, decorating it for each holiday.
Starting point is 02:38:52 I think that's championship worthy. Okay, so real quick, Brad. A lady in Ohio bought a 10-foot werewolf, and he's doing what with it now? Dressing it up for each holiday. In her front yard, she'sressing it up for each holiday. In her front yard, she's keeping it up year-round. Would you be annoyed if this... I mean, how much you trim your fucking hedges? I mean, there's a lot to be annoyed with here.
Starting point is 02:39:13 That lady's a dog. What are you talking about? She doesn't have to trim hedges. Thank you, Brad. Thank you, Brad. Yeah, maybe we worry about getting that lawn cut before we worry about dressing up the werewolf. Not only the lawn.
Starting point is 02:39:24 Look at the bushes. There's fucking vines growing out of that thing. The house is an eyesore. Okay, I appreciate you spending money on the 10-foot fucking werewolf, but also, let's clean the shrubbery a little bit, lady. No, this is Ohio to a T. I'd be fine with this in my neighborhood as long as she fucking trims those fucking hedges and cuts her grass.
Starting point is 02:39:41 Yeah, there's a lot of weeds there, too. One weed whacker would really do so much. What? 15 minutes probably with a weed whacker probably changes this entire thing. For sure. You could take some scissors and do that in seven minutes. She doesn't have scissors. Talk about these big ones here, AJ. She definitely does. This is Ohio. What the hell is going on? Don't got HOAs in Ohio?
Starting point is 02:39:58 I don't think that. Not there, bro. There was no HOAs. Maybe not there. I didn't even know what the fucking HOA was. So I came out to Indiana. I don't right now. That's what you speak about. You've got to pay one to the building, probably. The building you live in? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:09 You pay for the pool and everything, I assume? What is the association? Yeah, like amenities? Yeah, that's kind of the same thing. They keep the building up. You can't do this. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. If you were to change anything in there,
Starting point is 02:40:19 you'd probably have to ask for permission inside the apartment. Like change what? Like the paint color or anything? Or mount a TV or something like that. That's kind of what an HOA is in a much smaller scale for apartments. HOA is like
Starting point is 02:40:30 one of the biggest rackets I've ever learned of. Yeah, this is ridiculous from so far of what I've heard. It's a complete racket. Complete racket. You want to put in a bush? You got to ask for permission. What? Too many sticks. Remember Tim got in shit with his HOA. My dad, boy, him learning about an HOA
Starting point is 02:40:48 50 plus with the way he is, that was certainly something. That was a thing. He had too many sticks in his front yard, they said. He has trees, and sticks fall off of trees. He did not have them properly collected in a quick enough time, so they wrote him a letter, like two of them, at his front door from the HOA.
Starting point is 02:41:04 They were threatening to kick him out of the fucking neighborhood. That makes sense why people never move into homes. Because it sounds terrible. Imagine wanting to run the HOA. I don't think so. The people that are running the HOA, real different group of we want power. Is that like the neighborhood
Starting point is 02:41:19 watch? Neighborhood watch good, I think. So you can't put like a house, so you couldn't put a big dong in your front yard in a nice neighborhood. Couldn't put a 10-foot werewolf too. Bingo. Dirty's point. Could not get away with a 10-foot werewolf. It's communism. Straight up. Yeah, let her live. Agreed.
Starting point is 02:41:36 Agreed. She doesn't have an HOA. I'm going to guess that. Shot in the dark. I would assume as well. Why? Imagine the werewolf. Most neighborhoods don't. 4 assume as well. Wait, why? Imagine the werewolf. Most neighborhoods don't. Fourth of July, Pittsburgh, Ohio, I assume.
Starting point is 02:41:50 Imagine werewolf Fourth of July, fireworks coming out of that thing's orifices. Yeah. You know what I mean? Off the top of the head, obviously, probably out of the crotch region. Probably put some in his hands. The lot looks much nicer there than it did in the previous picture. You can tell it's not, though. She trimmed it up, I think, before this photo.
Starting point is 02:42:08 Bro, she loves Halloween. Huh? This lady? Oh, yeah. Does that say get off my lawn? That sign right next to his foot? Yeah, it's his house. Gotta pay dues. It's got a James and Columbus. I don't know how that was the call, but I appreciate that it was. That tweet
Starting point is 02:42:23 was a call into this show. Probably because I think the tweet below it was, I'm coming for AJ Hawks title next year. Oh yeah. The lady said that? Yeah, we just didn't see it below that one. She knows AJ Hawks. If we were to go to that lady's house and we said AJ Hawks said, you maybe need to trim the bushes a little bit. She'd be like,
Starting point is 02:42:40 did AJ say that? And then boom. President? Zero chance. Have you ever run into anybody from Ohio that doesn't know you? Answer. Yes. Not true. No, not true.
Starting point is 02:42:53 They might not recognize your face whenever they see you, but as soon as they hear AJ Hawk, they go, oh, my God, that's fucking Ohio's president. I mean, you heard Wendy. First thing he said when he came on here. He's covered LeBron. Yes. For like 15, 20 years. And he goes, shut up.
Starting point is 02:43:10 Let me take this moment to say something. A little starstruck. AJ Hawk, holy fuck. Yeah. You used to have your poster up in my house. Sounds like Windy. Sounds like Windy. That's what he said verbatim. Speaking of Windy, did he cover the LeBron James thing?
Starting point is 02:43:19 How do you feel about how LeBron, Ohio guy, how LeBron handled the Michael Malone situation with his post? Obviously, enjoy your light I'm the fucking sun is an incredible line I wish a heel wrestler would have thought of this in the beforehand but instead it's LeBron we need an album it's the offseason let's go ahead and get that accomplished seems like he did take it personally though which I guess self-motivated guys would have to do Malone was just joking though AJ he's just joking will you tell LeBron that yeah yeah. I'm sure
Starting point is 02:43:46 I have so much communication with him but when he said please make player being cool again because the lame machine is at an all-time high. What exactly does that mean? I thought he was talking about us maybe because we were doing the interview with him Was he talking about us being lame? Yeah, I wasn't sure. That's why I said hell yeah
Starting point is 02:44:02 to the thing. I wasn't sure if that was a combination of also what the GM said during the parade. Like he could have been responding to multiple things because the GM said, and granted when he said this about Mike Malone, Mike Malone did not respond whatsoever. Michael. Michael. Michael Malone. He seemed a little pissed, but the GM said like made, you know,
Starting point is 02:44:21 Michael Malone made the Lakers his children? Or he's the daddy of the Lakers? Oh, you Happy Father's Day'd him? Basically, yeah. The GM did. Speaking of, like... What? What's that?
Starting point is 02:44:36 What? What happened? Diggs. What? What? That's his post from yesterday on Instagram. No, it came out one minute ago. Yeah, but this is from his Instagram yesterday.
Starting point is 02:44:50 The only reason why I know that is because this is the same caption from yesterday. You can scroll up. I'll take care of it. You know, that was in his first one yesterday. And then in a later one, he said, I'll take care of it. So look for Twitter to have another post about Father's Day in a few hours with an I'll take care of it. As opposed to I'll take care of it. So look for Twitter to have another post about Father's Day in a few hours with an I'll take care of it as opposed to I'll take care of it because obviously this is from his Instagram yesterday.
Starting point is 02:45:11 He knows that Father's Day was yesterday. This is the rock, dude. He tweets. The tweet doesn't go through. The next day he checks Twitter, sees. Tweet never went through. I just thought that that was, we needed to know. Tony wrote on on dry race board
Starting point is 02:45:25 the rock doesn't know what father's day is that's what he did that's what i just looked over one of the most obscure things of all time let's talk about the weekend that was father's day weekend oh wow bill carlson's having himself quite a parade hell yeah the las vegas golden knights held their parade 45 days after they won the Stanley Cup. So the boys had been on quite a bender whenever it was leading up to the parade. Whenever Mark Stone was joining this program one day after winning the Stanley Cup, and he found out and told us when the parade was, which was not for another four or five days, he was genuinely concerned about how the boys were going to make it.
Starting point is 02:46:03 They did. Their fans did as well. The pictures and videos coming out of the Las Vegas Golden Knights parade on Saturday have been remarkable. None, though, have garnered the attention as much as wild Bill Carlson cutting a promo about how he feels about them winning Lord O'Stonley Cup. Okay. You guys can hear me? Yeah, you hear me? So, this guy, this effing guy.
Starting point is 02:46:34 Yeah, I know. I know. So, he was here. They won. Yeah. He was here day one. Yeah. And I know you have been here day fucking one.
Starting point is 02:46:58 I thought he was talking about the March of Soul. Hell yeah. Oh yeah, he might have been talking about the March of Soul. You guys are so amazing. Hell yeah. We played Arizona in the first game. What happened? And we beat the shit out of them.
Starting point is 02:47:15 Okay. Hell yeah. What did he say? What? And I had no points. No points. The boys? No points. The boys. No points.
Starting point is 02:47:26 But that's okay. Because that year one, I was pretty fucking great. Maybe not night one, but... But you guys were greater. Oh, okay, of course. Nice, nice. And we've been up and down on this journey
Starting point is 02:47:50 to the top. Who's that? Is that PR lady? No, no, no, no. Listen to me. Oh, yeah. We've been waiting for six long years for this guy to be MVP. The promo.
Starting point is 02:48:20 Drag that. Jonathan Marcheseau. Great intro. Hey, great intro. Put himself over a little bit. Got his mic cut. Was dragged off. Still got the introduction done.
Starting point is 02:48:33 That's right. Way to go, Wild Bill. Way to go, Wild Bill. Don't love he's getting dragged out. How many times have you went to Stanley Cup and have a microphone in front of thousands of people? Exactly. Let this drunk guy say whatever the fuck he wants.
Starting point is 02:48:43 Sorry, I was pretty fucking great. Them thinking, what's he going to say next? Who knows? Let it go. He got the words in, though, didn't he? He did. Proper introduction. Absolutely killed it. Congrats to all the boys over there in Vegas having a time of their life.
Starting point is 02:49:00 Ty, as a fan since day one, did you have a couple of whiskeys with the boys before? I absolutely did, and Wild Bill's right, because he was couple of whiskeys with the boys before? I absolutely did. And Wild Bill's right because he was kind of the star of the show early on. He played out of his mind that first year. And, yeah, I mean, I'm just glad he didn't, like, whip his dong out or something. I'm sure that's what they were a little worried about he was going to do because he was just feeling it up there.
Starting point is 02:49:18 He was, funny. As he should have been. Just vibing with Lorda. Exactly. Exactly. AJ, you gave a speech after you guys won that Super Bowl, right? What did you say to the people? I did not, but he has great stage presence.
Starting point is 02:49:29 He really does. We didn't have a parade like that, unfortunately. What? What? It was in Green Bay. It's like negative 30 degrees. We walked a lap around the stadium. This is before the parades were gigantic.
Starting point is 02:49:40 I feel like we did get screwed. It would have been awesome to have one. Before the parade. don't do that. Yeah. What's the purpose? That's definitely not true. No. You're saying we had a parade and I didn't know about it? No. What we're thinking is that potentially Green Bay
Starting point is 02:49:55 kind of stole a parade from you. Yeah, parades were big before 2010. I was at two Super Bowl parades before you won the Super Bowl. Yes, me too. And riots. People were burning stuff. Yes, me too. And riots. Yeah. Yeah. People were burning stuff, climbing stuff.
Starting point is 02:50:08 Yeah. No parades. Yeah, you guys should have done it anywhere. No parade. How was it? Was it packed out, though, I assume? Green Bay Packers. Yeah, the stadium was packed.
Starting point is 02:50:16 It was right when we got back from Dallas. Green Bay Packers opt for Super Bowl non-parade celebration in Lambeau Field. Boo. Yikes. I didn't know this. It was Monday. See that? No wonder why.
Starting point is 02:50:29 Tuesday. People say Aaron only won one. It's like, you think the football gods are fucking pumped about what happened over there? Jeez Louise. You guys win the biggest one and you say, net parade. Yeah, that is a curse. That is a no parade curse.
Starting point is 02:50:43 Holy shit. Didn't even think of it till now. Only for an hour. Nonetheless, not even a couple hours. Our schedule to host a victory celebration on Tuesday between 5 to 6 p.m. Jesus. $5 a piece for tickets. Want to sell one of them?
Starting point is 02:50:57 They charge money. Oh my God. We didn't know this this entire time. Holy shit. AJ, I'm so sorry you didn't. Through Ticketmaster only. AJ climbs the mountaintop with a green backpack. Curly Lambo's team wins a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:51:15 Here we go. Parking was free. Five bucks. We're good. Parking was free. If you bought a ticket. Yeah, correct. Parking pass came with five
Starting point is 02:51:26 dollar ticket oh all proceeds also go to packers foundation charities okay still not a parade erase five bucks a person yeah but still no parade curse oh i understand it's very cold out there but we gotta have a parade gotta have a celebration it's worthy is it not not? Is Lambeau not worthy of a parade? Yeah. What would Lombardi do? Vince, that is. Oh, my God. It is tough.
Starting point is 02:51:49 I mean, I wonder, like, if they win again, I would imagine they'll have a parade. But, man, it's going to be cold for everybody involved. So what they need to do is they need to do it up there at the, what's that casino? Oh, the Oneida. They need to shut down the Oneida and have them walk through the casino. You know what I mean? Yep. Take a couple hot laps around a casino.
Starting point is 02:52:08 Yep. And then at the end, in the parking lot, maybe there's an amphitheater. And everybody goes outside. You do it. I promise you it wasn't 80 degrees in New England every time they were doing those breaks. Yeah, no. Actually, one year they had to really finagle the entire route because there's a ton of snow. But, I mean, a bunch of packers fans fly in right like why wouldn't they just do it in like florida and
Starting point is 02:52:29 just go to miami and then just do a boat parade you gotta do it in the city you don't know you don't have anything you're an owner of that team like i said there's a car totally understandable okay totally understandable because the parking ticket is free. You get a parking pass that's typically $50-$60. That guy's backyard. You do it in Milwaukee too. Look at this.
Starting point is 02:52:54 Big Mike looks like he's having a good time. Joel Klatt's interviewing him. Joel Klatt is not Joel Klatt. Joel Klatt in 30 years. Who's that? It's not Joel Klatt. Joel Klatt in 30 years. Who's that? Who's that? It's not Joel Klatt, obviously. Who's that, AJ? He's the radio guy.
Starting point is 02:53:09 I'm just blanking on his name right now. Oh! Big Mike looks fit. From 5 to 6 p.m., well. Who's next to Big Mike? Larry McCarron. Well, that's Ted Thompson, the GM at the time. RIP, great guy.
Starting point is 02:53:21 And then Larry McCarron, he's the one who has those foam fingers that are made all crooked because he has the nastiest fingers alive. The guy with the red scarf? Yeah, he played. He's a tough guy. Larry's the man. He looks like a mean cuss. He does, doesn't he?
Starting point is 02:53:35 He does. He flies planes. He's a pilot. He flies. His fingers are all over the place. Yeah, he's tough as nails. Sounds like you're a hero here. Where's he from, Ohio?
Starting point is 02:53:43 I'm not sure exactly where he's from he you know he he does all the stuff for green but he had a show in green bay that like on tuesday nights we'd go do from the stadium like in a ballroom up there and it was always fun he's yeah larry's awesome looks like it was pretty good turnout here yeah you know we're judging a little bit no parade but it looks like it's pretty good time one hour that's it chaos what'd you say aj i i had just come out of a an MRI super hungover lane face down with my arm above my head for an hour almost died in there I feel like just sweating my life away and then I had surgery like 10 hours after that on my my wrist so you can't so you got boozed up at that thing or no uh no we were coming off we've just gotten home we we I think we just
Starting point is 02:54:21 landed and went and did it maybe it was Tuesday Tuesday. No, we didn't. It wasn't anything like that, unfortunately. That is so dumb. That's a curse. The no fun parade. The Green Bay curse. Jesus. Nina Payton's place is on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:32 Mark Murphy, actually, speaking of that, Mark Murphy has some Jeff Daniels from Dumb and Dumber in that photo. That guy's running the team, though. Please. No, no, I know, but he just looks like. He's got rosy cheeks. Jeff Daniels from Dumb and Dumber. What do you want? Chill that. He's super pumped know, but he just looks like... He's got rosy cheeks. Jeff Daniels and Domen Domer. What do you want? He's super pumped.
Starting point is 02:54:47 He just won a Super Bowl. Look how close he is to Lourdes. Completely agree. He just looks like it. Wombo. Two for two. Drano. Two for two. No rims. Jeez Louise, huh? We're really seeing the hoop.
Starting point is 02:55:04 Wow. Hit the ball 330 this morning, too. Come Louise. We're really seeing the hoop. Whoa. Wow. Have we hit the ball 330 this morning too? Man. Come on. Hit Stairmaster this morning as well. What? Trying to get properly jogged for this golf tournament. Trying to live good.
Starting point is 02:55:12 Trying to make the right decisions so the ball bounces my way. That's how I've always been, but even more so now that I have a child. Hope everybody had an incredible Father's Day. Can't thank you enough for joining us on this glorious Juneteenth, 2023. Look into it. We all just learned about it. Yep. You're not a bad person.
Starting point is 02:55:26 Not a bad person. Nope. Learn about it though. Cause it's a cool thing. Pretty big piece of news. Very. Pretty massive piece of news. Two years.
Starting point is 02:55:36 Important day in history. Two years afterwards. Well, there's no internet, you know, no phone. What are you? Sorry about it.
Starting point is 02:55:44 Last couple of people that tried to get down here to tell us that news, they got lost somehow. Yeah. Lost. Yeah. They fell into a river and couldn't swim. Who was it? It was General Granger? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:55 Gordon. No. Gordon Granger. Gordon Granger. He's from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? Joy, New York. Yeah. There it is.
Starting point is 02:56:00 New York. By way of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Maybe. Yeah. We don't know. We don't know. Just want to make sure people know that. Passed through Pittsburgh. There's a chance. On his way. Yeah, we don't know. Just want to make sure people know that. Passed through Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 02:56:06 There's a chance. On his way. Yeah, there's a chance. Everyone had to. Think about how long that drive is. Yeah. Oh, my God. They were on horse?
Starting point is 02:56:13 No. Three Rivers. He may have walked. Gordon Granger? It took him two years to get down there. Has anybody told him? No. He passed away pretty young.
Starting point is 02:56:23 Gordon? Yeah. Well, I think everybody did back then. Yeah, 51. That's pretty big. Isn't that a long time back then? Well, I assume he probably had just like pieces of metal impaled in him from the war, too, that they could never get out.
Starting point is 02:56:36 They just had to sit with for the rest of their lives. So those people did not live long back in the day, right? I don't think so. It was like a quick, we're in and out of here. Yeah, life expectancy. Right? Isn't that a thing? Yeah, basic things would kill day, right? I don't think so. It was like a quick, we're in and out of here. Yeah, life expectancy. Right? And the other thing? Yeah, I think basic things would kill it, right?
Starting point is 02:56:48 Oh, yeah. Strep throat killed George Washington, right? Really? Clap? I thought he had chlamydia. Yeah, the clap, sure. A lot of people got that, right? Have you thought about being on that boat coming over here? Oh. That Nina, that Pinta,
Starting point is 02:57:06 that Santa Maria. Here's Jeez Louise. The Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria. Here's life expecting 1875, which is 10 years after Juneteenth happened in Galveston, Texas. 43.7 years. 51. This guy lived fucking forever. Might as well have been 100. If anything, they're like, Jesus,
Starting point is 02:57:21 Gordon Granger might never die. This guy's still here. What the hell? This guy walked to Texas, turned're like, Jesus, Gordon Granger might never die. This guy's still here. What the hell? This guy walked to Texas, turned around, walked back, still alive. Is that what the stores are named after? Because those are sweet stores. Gordon's? Granger's.
Starting point is 02:57:35 Granger's aren't nice stores. What are Granger's? Hermione Granger. I'm not shooting another ball. Let's get out of here. Farm supplies? Office supplies probably dead. No, no, farm supplies. Well, I mean, no one's going to Gr here. Farm supplies? Office supplies probably dead. That store's dead. No, no. Farm supplies.
Starting point is 02:57:48 Well, I mean, no one's going to Granger for farm supplies. I assume people are. Quite a few people. If it's a farm supply store, I assume those are some of the only stores that are still popping off very well. Oh, yeah. Tractor supply is a great store. Tractor supply, yeah. Blaine's Farm and Fleet.
Starting point is 02:58:00 There's a Granger. It's spelled differently. Okay. It is. Different supplies. God, you go get a fucking safety hat You kidding me That's a day Nothing wears like a Granger
Starting point is 02:58:14 I went down to Granger and got a hard hat Thank you Plumbing and pumps Got some chains for the tires too Cause the snow's coming in like a real fucking asshole I'm starting to think Tone's never been inside of a Granger. Tone, you don't even know what Granger is, dude. I'm starting to think I confused Granger for a tractor spot.
Starting point is 02:58:31 Similar colors. But also seemingly similar. Today's hardware. Let's get out of here. Tomorrow's a big show. Big shout out to Chris Paul making time. Ian Rapport, Shams Sharania. And tomorrow we got packed out. Huge show tomorrow. Huge guest tomorrow. AJ, you want to give it a guess?
Starting point is 02:58:45 Barack Obama? Don't sleep on Barry O. He would not be on Barack Obama. Damn. Maybe. Maybe. I don't think so. Maybe I'll stop by.
Starting point is 02:58:53 You never know. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Enjoy your Monday. We'll see you tomorrow. Sports tonight. What are we doing? No, I don't think we have anything to watch. Big soccer tournament's on, I think.
Starting point is 02:59:03 No. No. That ended yesterday. What are we doing? Monday watch. Big soccer tournament's on, I said. No, that ended yesterday. What are we doing? Monday Night Raw. Monday Night Raw. Monday Night Raw. Maybe run back Top Gun.
Starting point is 02:59:11 Logan Paul's back. Logan Paul's back on Monday Night Raw. There's some baseball. That's great news. Logan Paul's back on Monday Night Raw. Yes, sir. A couple new movies. Okay, Monday Night Raw tonight.
Starting point is 02:59:19 Some new movies out. Baseball. Top Gun final 40 minutes. Maybe. Mission Impossible, perhaps, with the new one coming out next week? Oh yeah! I watched five of them this weekend. Really? Yeah. How was it? Sick. I've never seen any of them.
Starting point is 02:59:34 I should watch one. You could probably start at Ghost Protocol. Yeah, I don't think you're going to like one or two. So it's number what? Four? Ghost Protocol is number four, I believe. And what number are we on now? Six? Seven? Let's see. We've got Ghost Protocol is number four, I believe, yeah. And what number are we on now? Six? Seven?
Starting point is 02:59:47 Let's see. We got Ghost Protocol. We got Rogue Nation. Yeah, I believe the next one that's coming out is six, part one. So part six dash one. Yeah. Space? Coming out soon.
Starting point is 03:00:02 Is the one that comes out in like a month here. Okay, so I should watch five, four. Start with four. of when like it the the franchise was reborn if you will and what is it this guy's super agent bond he's yeah he's the american james bond pretty much imf impossible missions mission impossible movies in chronological order obviously got impossible impossible two impossible three and then ghost protocol, Rogue Nation, and Fallout. Okay, so we're going seven, part one. Yeah, there it is. Oh, no. Tom Cruise is going to hear this.
Starting point is 03:00:32 That's okay. Tom Cruise is going to hear this. He knows. AJ, did you hear what Ty just did? Tom is not going to like this. No, he knows. No, he just heard you just completely say, all your work for that one movie, crop.
Starting point is 03:00:44 Well, he would even say number two is kind of let's get him on the show can we reach out to Tom sure yeah text him okay thank you alright maybe Tom Cruise tomorrow boom be a friend tell a friend something nice we'll see you tomorrow goodbye

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