The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 930 - Jay Bilas, Adam Schefter, Adrian Wojnarowski, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys discuss all the pertinent news stories in both the real world and sports world as sports have essentially come to a standstill. Joining the program to preview the NBA Draft, his thoughts on Wemby, who else from this draft class is going to be a star, the advantages and disadvantages to going to college versus the G-League, and more is ESPN Basketball Analyst who will be doing his 21st NBA Draft on Thursday, Jay Bilas (38:45-57:30). Next, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter joins the progrum to discuss Dalvin Cook’s comments on his podcast about potentially wanting to play with D-Hop, why he thinks the Jets would be a good fit, the 49ers QB situation, what he knows about what’s going on in Buffalo, the Tyreek Hill situation, and whether or not Kyler Murray could be traded after the season if the Cardinals are staring down the #1 pick (1:05:55-1:39:28). Later, ESPN NBA Insider, Adrian Wojnarowski joins the show to chat about some of the big moves that may be happening in the NBA as we get close to the Draft, his thoughts on Wemby, and more (1:52:39-2:02:59). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

People, welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this new guest Wednesday, June 23rd, 2023. This sports program starts right now. Sports! Are happening. Yep. And whenever we say that, what we mean is there is competition taking place on a field somewhere at some time. And it is sometimes electrifying, most of the time a little bit boring. But the time is now for us to enjoy the sports chatter about everything happening around every other big-time league. No offense to the Major League Baseball.

I think even MLB fans know there are 7,000 games left. And this is really the mid-time where I guess the Reds could get hot. That's true. The Reds could go on a run. Oh, my God, the Reds are a team of destiny. Holy shit, Kirk Herbstreit's front row looking very cool. But they can still collapse completely. Not even next playoffs.

That doesn't even matter. So these games, there isn't really any, you know, kind of consequence to any of them. So it's tough for some of us to sit around and watch. All right, now his next pitch is one that is going to be very important. Look out for the clock. We saw two weeks ago. Bolt. All right. He Look out for the clock. We saw two weeks ago. Bolt.

He will step onto the mound. 1-1, obviously, here. The hitter that we're looking at here is a strike. Uh-oh. 1-2 here. All right. Now, I wonder if he'll go back to that same pitch there. Has to have a good read on it.

Foul. Fought it off. Still 1-2 here. Not bad. Next pitch. What do we think he's going to go with? You know, he's in a favorable position. He could really get aggressive with this one.

Maybe throw some junk. Ooh, ball. Ooh. 2-2. 2-2. Oh, shit. Look out. 2-2.

All right. I'm wondering if he's going to be able to see it here. Obviously, make a break. Don't want to go into a full count. Foul! 2-2. Ah! Good battle to play. His, obviously make a break. Don't want to go into a full count. Foul! 2-2. Good battle to play.

His average 2-2 count. So this is something we've been talking about, the pitch clock. We wondered if these at-bats were going to get slower. Hey, time from the batter. Okay, he's allowed to take one of those. Took it. Right time. Yep.

He's back in. All right. See, that is an interesting thing. We've been wondering about whether or not. Bolt! 3-2. Full count. Hey, got to come to him here.

Clean the cleats. Here we go. Clean the fucking cleats. Runners are moving. Boom, boom. Boom, boom. He's back in there with at least enough time there. Looking at – oh, time.

All right, we're taking a break. Okay, pitcher takes his. All right, let's get back in here now. We've got the rosin. Foul! All right. Full count still. Obviously, we have moved past midnight already on the East Coast

with this game going on at this at-bat. And strike! He's got him! One out in the bottom of the sixth. Yeah. That's fucking tough to watch. Terrible. We just did it as a sports talk show.

I couldn't even imagine any show ever thinking about doing that ever in the history because of how boring it sounds. That's what people are expecting me to sign up for. I can't fucking do it. Nope. Okay, I appreciate when they go to that farm in Iowa. It is a beautiful thing. Oh, yeah.

And I like that the visuals and the optics and the environment seem to be electrifying. And I've enjoyed this College World Series over there in Omaha. There's been comebacks and great tales, and I guess there's double elimination sometimes and not any other time. And it feels like it is electrifying. I enjoy it, but god damn, there's no sports on right now. No, there aren't. So whenever we're talking about sports, what we're talking about is all the stories and the chatter happening

around the sports. The draft for the NBA is tomorrow. Here we go. Guess who we're going to have on the show today. Who's that? Adrian Wojnarowski. The Woj bomber? Yeah, Woj bomb. Wojnarowski. Adrian Wojnarowski. The Woj bomber? Yeah, Woj bomb. Wojnarowski. Adrian Wojnarowski.

I'm going to be honest. This is the first time I've seen the full name written out right here. I thought he was related to the Wojahoski. Oh, Gene. Yeah, he is not. These are different. Different guys. They kind of look like they might be brothers or cousins or something like that. Or Polish.

Same. Definitely. So that's a different last name. Anyways, Adrian Wojnarowski, who in 2010 was voted. He was voted the worst sports reporter or sports taker in the media in 2010. When he was working for Yahoo. Yeah, for his criticism of LeBron James. Bias is what they call it.

So then he goes to ESPN in 2017. And I'm going to be honest. I don't know basketball that much. I assumed the Woj bomb was a thing since like 2010. Yeah, me too. So when I heard he was at Yahoo, and then he got hired to ESPN in 2017, then obviously he says, fuck you to a Republican. Yeah, that was sweet.

In 2020. Now we're in 2023. It just seems like the Woj bomb has been around forever. And I guess it probably has been in some circles. But he's only been at ESPN for six years. I mean, that is a wild thing. Can't wait to chat with him. I don't think we've ever had him on this program.

We are a Shams program. Everybody knows that. But whenever you're talking about having the opportunity to chit-chat with a guy who seemingly knows everybody in the NBA and ESPN is covering the draft, I mean, this is a good conversation to have. Thank you for it. We'll have 10 minutes of words today. Okay. You know who else we got today doing draft coverage for the NBA?

Who's that? He's on TV right now on ESPN. I don't know what he says. I'm sure this conversation is going to be the exact same as theirs. Jay fucking Billis. Billis, right. Come on. He's a white that went to Duke.

He's a lawyer. Quotes Jeezy every morning on his Twitter account. Has sweet shoe game. Covers college basketball. Also, this is his 21st, I believe. 21st NBA draft. He should have some information on the other three players other than just Wemby, Scoot, and Brandon,

which actually that's probably the only thing we'll talk about. But I can't wait to chat with him. That's a good guy. I think we've had a couple drinks before, he and I. What? Okay. I think we've had a couple beers together. What? I might have he and I. What? Okay. I think we've had a couple beers together. What?

I might have had a whiskey. What? That was it. Just one. Responsible. Still good. Yeah, I felt like an adult. He's a lawyer from Duke. Right. Could you imagine if old white trash pack comes in there and just gets him blacked out drunk for whatever he's supposed to do?

Can't have that. I believe he was the one that actually bought the beer and the whiskey. What? Anyways, we'll ask him. Good guy. Great guy. And then we have Adam Schefter on. Okay. Hey, full ESPN Rolodex today.

Yeah. Okay, full ESPN Rolodex here. Schefter is obviously in the news because he's the one that generates a lot of the news alongside Ian and Tom and Garofalo and Field Yates and Jeremy Fowler. Yep. Darlington. And Jeff Darlington. Diana Rossini. Diana Rossini.

And Jordan Schultz. Yeah, Maz Marziano. Maz Marziano, certainly an insider. Alan Hahn. Bro, Schultz just got so jacked up that we were doing all those things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then we just dropped him.

Have you seen his Instagram? He's got an interesting little strategy he does. We run clips from sports and everything like that on our Instagram. Shout out to Gump out there doing the Lords. Schultz actually, like somebody will post a video on their Instagram. Yep. And then four to five seconds later, I don't know how he does it. It's an incredible thing.

Quick. He just rips their video and puts it up on his. Sweet IG caption. On top of it. Yeah. It's like, holy shit, you're almost beating the person to their own video. It's phenomenal. I'm following 15 people

following Schultz. It's not like breaking news. It's like, hey, this is this person's life. It's happening right now with Schultz's kind of opinions on top of it. It's an interesting follow. Schultz is doing it, Schultz. Have you seen his split screen that he does where he says something over here

and then he waits and he goes and he points down. I did not know he has a point down. It's so sweet. He'll run something that just came out and then he'll say, and I had this to say. And then it'll freeze frame like this for the whole video and then he'll talk on the bottom. So you kind of look like with that new hair

which I guess we should get into. Anyway, Schefter's on. Dalvin Cook was on his podcast. Anyway, Schefter's on. Yep. Dalvin Cook was on his podcast, the Adam Schefter podcast. That is a thing. Yep. Sure. I assume that that thing could break news anytime it wants to. Oh, yeah.

Definitely. If Schefter really wanted to. Dalvin Cook said, love to play alongside DeAndre Hopkins. Hey, love. Wouldn't mind it at all. That could potentially happen at a place right now, especially depending upon what these two guys are looking at in the market. You know, some people have said that DeAndre Hopkins is going to be looking for the biggest paycheck. DeAndre Hopkins hasn't said that, though.

He has not come out and said that at all. And there's people reporting, well, he's going to want what Odell Beckham Jr. wanted. He just signed for 15 or whatever, up to 18. Why would Nuke think anything differently than what OBJ just got? He's played more recently than OBJ. He obviously is the only person that is a weapon on some of the teams that he has been on and been very productive he is going to expect that type of money it's like well the timing of every situations are situational that's right nuke knows that he's probably learning

that as he's taking his trips maybe the money won't be that good so do you take good money and then do a prove it year and then bang whenever you're able to hit the actual free agent cycle whenever there's really money available from teams you'll be able to go and hit it so that would mean he's looking for a good situation a good team primetime games probably idea uh you always want to win a super bowl in the year you're trying to prove it for sure go somewhere else because if you win there's enough going on and what if dalvin cook's in the same situation now people have assumed because dalvin cook's not taking any visits or doing anything like that, that he has a plethora of options. We would agree, because he's fucking Dalvin Cook. So good.

But if Dalvin Cook finds himself in one of those situations as well, where it's like, hey, probably going to have to just do a year thing here, because we don't know what the future is, and we're not able to offer you as much money as you are currently worth, because the timing in which this whole thing took place. So maybe he takes a deal that's like, all right, let's get on a team that's going to be good and that's going to be in prime time and that potentially wins a Super Bowl because that supersedes everything that you could possibly figure out for the next contract when teams are just looking for, hey, you know, LeSean McCoy got picked up by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You know what I mean?

Still, even without playing in Kansas City, don't know what the reason was. Yeah. He has said some things. He's given a couple of his opinions about it. Bingo. You know what I mean? Still, even without playing in Kansas City, don't know what the reason was. Yeah. No, no, no. He has said some things. A couple of his opinions about it. He's awesome. The enemy. Yeah. He's awesome.

And the enemy said, I do not care what is outside of these walls. Okay. The noise outside. I have to listen right here. And I'm like, oh, the enemy hates. Oh, yeah. He hates. Those guys hate each other.

For sure. Anyways, but at least think about what happened with him from Kansas City down to Tampa Bay, his job, let alone if Dalvin Cook goes in and does well, they win, next deal could be it. So you would see a team like Kansas City Chiefs, Brett Veach, figuring out how to fucking get DeAndre Hopkins and Dalvin Cook onto their football team. Yeah. And it would be Pacheco and Dalvin Cook in the background, in the backfield, and then it would be tight end university,

tight end of the year, Travis Kelsey with Nuke. They got Kadarius Tony, who they're starting to get into the offense more and more, let alone his return game. Mecole, is he still over there? He's with the Jets now, but MVS is over there now. There's the deep threat MVS off the top of it. It's like, yeah, and of course

Patrick Mahomes will be able to have a never-ending supply of electrifying weapons. Yeah. And I don't know why every other team isn't trying to do what they're doing. And I know Kedarious Tony was supposed to be the next Tyreek Hill. Yep. Supposed to be the next Tyreek Hill. Well, he was at the Giants.

He wasn't. No, no, no, no, no, no. Joe Judge calling plays. Yeah. Sad enough for punts, which I like, but not everybody does. Yeah. Darius Tony has a hamstring, has a hamstring, has a hamstring, has a hamstring. What?

Trade to the Chiefs. What? Feel good. Yeah. Let's go ahead and do this. So the Giants technically had a Chiefs-like player, and then they said, it doesn't work, let's get him the fuck out of here. And the Chiefs were like, you want a 4-2?

Thank you. Yeah, we'll take it. Are you untacklable? Thank you. Come on here. And then Chiefs were like, thank you. You want a 4-2? Thank you. Yeah, we'll take it. Are you untackleable? Thank you. Come on here. And then at quarterback, we got the next one. So we have an offense coordinator who knows every single play in the history of football. Yes.

Like, actually. Yep. Yeah. All of them. Have a smart, all of the plays in the history of football. Yeah. Offensively. I don't know how we're going to have to try him defensively.

Yeah, maybe though. Who knows? There's a chance. Offensively, he knows every play in the history of football, and he's a good play caller. Like in games, good play caller, knows who and what to attack and how to attack it. We have a bunch of smart players.

Like the core of our players, all incredibly intelligent. So we can change up our game plans. All we need you to learn, if you're not a super genius, four or five things, and we're going to be good. It's a perfect setup in Kansas City. and if they end up with Dalvin Cook, Andy Andre Hopkins, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. Yeah, I don't see it. Okay?

Because they should both be in Indianapolis, Indiana. You got it right. And I'm not the only fan of a team that is thinking that. We got the money. We do, and we got the time. We got nothing but time. We got nothing but time. We paid a lot of quarterbacks,

a lot of money that's going to carry for us the next few years. I believe we're still kind of being punished for the Carson Wentz contract. Love it. Matt Ryan won't come in here after that. So we got some shit to deal with, all right, Pac? But it would be great if another team, not just the best team, was to get involved in these types of things, and it feels like all roads are pointing to a very good squad.

The talk table is here. At Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer squad. The Talks table is here. At Boss of Connor, Nat Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Cowboys turn. Diggs is here. 14-year NFL vet. Rocking a West Virginia football shirt. Hell yeah. They have a team? Football, football, football. Really? Yeah, West Virginia basketball right now is kind of tearing

the entire university apart. Well, I saw some Instagram posts, but... Yeah, not just some. There was... It ain't that bad. Well... He had a couple pops sue him. He's an avid recycler. No one's fucking talking about that. We sure gonna miss him. I mean, is this

West Virginia? This is not what we wanted in West Virginia. It's that Keys guy's fault. That's who it is. We do not need this. This is what I'm saying, though. You fucking people in Pittsburgh. You fucking people in Pittsburgh. Is anyone in West Virginia driving around? You fucking people in Pittsburgh. Don't listen. I'm-

It's you people in Pittsburgh. If you hillbillies would stay down there in the mountains, we would have this show to be. All right, we are talking right now, for those that don't know, which could potentially be anybody that's watching right now. Right. Coach Bob Huggins, formerly of the West Virginia University Mountaineers. Wow.

Grew up in Morgantown, West Virginia. Yeah. Played basketball at WVU. What? His love of basketball would take him into coaching where he was a hard ass. We're talking like Bobby Knight, I do believe, back in the day.

Intense, loved it. Goes to Cincinnati, has great success. Yeah. Great success. Now, when he's at Cincinnati, there was a time where he had too good of a time and then he made the irresponsible decision hopping in a car, getting a DUI,

doing some other stuff like that. So he did build up a reputation as a guy who's from Morgantown, West Virginia, who likes to have a couple pops every once in a while, and then when he does that, he makes the bad decision. We don't think anybody should do this, especially now, Jesus Christ, with Uber and Lyft and everything. Getting in a car, very irresponsible. A lot

of people have died. I have two friends that have passed away from drunk driving incidents. So it's like very, very dangerous. Now I think it's viewed much differently than it was back in the day. But nonetheless, had the reputation of being a little bit of a boozer. Sure. A little bit. So he has success in Cincinnati. West Virginia has a job opening.

Boom. We hire the hometown hero. Smart. He came in and took in the state. Yes. Because he had a lot of pride in the state because he was from the state. He started taking the team down to the coal miners to go see them and go around the state so you learn who you were playing for, what you were playing for, and everything like that. He would do these foundations and fish fries where he would raise millions and

millions of dollars for the kids of West Virginia university. Like he took a lot of pride in being a West Virginia kid. Who's coaching West Virginia to the world in a display of West Virginia. So whenever he ends up getting resigning, but everybody kind of understands what this was. And I assume Huggins was like, man, I've been fucking up too much lately. After what happened with the radio thing, I should just kind of get

out of your guys' hair, and I got some shit to work on. I've been in basketball a long-ass time. So whenever he resigns, and people feel as if he's forced out, it has gotten loud over there. Oh, yeah. Huggins is beloved. Huggins is a West Virginian. Huggins has owned and appreciated the

fact that he's from West Virginia. Yesterday was West Virginia Day, I do believe. The state, you know, people forget that it left the South. It left Virginia to join the union or whatever. It became a state. West Virginia Day celebrated very recently. So they see one of their own who they can get past him boozing because they knew whenever he got hired,

he was a boozer. But I do believe there was a clause in there like he wasn't allowed to drive, though, for a little bit. I would assume so. Had to have a driver, which I think they did have a driver for him. So now everybody's pissed. Fire the fucking president.

Yeah, that's right. Bring Huggy back. Yeah, this is from a Facebook post, but this guy is not the only one. There's quite a movement happening in West Virginia right now. It was loud yesterday. Very loud. About like, DUI .251. Okay.

Sue them. But also, I would like to, as somebody that went to West Virginia and knows people in West Virginia, but nowhere near a mouthpiece for West Virginia. I would have to spend a lot more time in West Virginia to claim that or anything like that. And I think we'll get to that stage. Yeah.

You know, I think we'll get to that stage at some point in the future because good conversation. It's good to be connected to the school that you, you know, went to and have a lot of friends and pull for. So, like, that'll get to some point. The dude had a DUI that's just like absurd yeah you know pretty wild like it's absurd he just had what happened on the radio a couple was it like a month and a half it's not very thin ice to begin with yeah it's like he he recognized that I assume in the that's why he the resignation thing because he could have held up and said no you're gonna

have to fire me because I'm sure there's some contractual thing in there so he even realized it but this is not what we need in our life right now west virginia and it is a bummer that huggins would not be representing west virginia anymore because like he truly cared about the state the university and he was like a staple almost a fucking west virginia university and but it happened and this is a real world and there's actual consequences it's like that can't be and and whoever's next, let's go. Whoever's next, let's go and do this thing. But thank you to Huggs for everything he did. Man, thank Huggs for everything he did for West Virginia.

He will always be still one of the top guys there. I think down the road he'll be coming back to do something, I would say, in the West Virginia community one day. But, yeah, we're going to miss a good one. He had a good run, though. And I think this had to happen. I would like to be on the side of this had to happen. And now, I don't know enough about

old Gordon Gee. I know he has that bow tie. People around the university and the state probably know more than I do about what he has done, what he hasn't done. I've seen some people talk about, let's talk about your reckless spending. Let's talk about what you've... I'm like, I haven't even dove into that. AJ knows what I'm saying. It's crazy.

He was at Ohio State. I do believe he goes over to West Virginia. But we want to let Huggs know we appreciate what he did for West Virginia. But also, I think Huggs understands this. He's not getting offended by this. Like, this is just the outcome whenever something like this happens. Absolutely. I mean, you can't drunk drive to begin with,

but there's a difference between being drunk and blowing a.09 and being drunk and blowing a.25. That's more than a few pops. As somebody that blew a.15 at 4 a.m. Yeah, exactly. I was kind of held over my head a little bit by both parties.

The people that were my friends were like.15 okay kind of calling me oh lightweight yeah like after wow that was unbelievable for it that was something i did not expect so obviously embarrassed my whole family everything get arrested public intoxication whole deal probably gonna get fired not gonna have a job whatever call my dad from jail he He hangs up on me. Whatever. You know, like it's a whole, it's bad. It's bad. Everything's bad.

Everything's bad. Everything's bad. I go out. I don't have my phone. It's broken. Water damage. You know, the legend story that the cops gave that I was in there. So my dad shows up at the house like a couple hours later.

We talk it out. Great conversation. Really a pivotal moment in my life. I'm kind of down in the dumps for a few days. Then I get my phone back, and I have like six text messages from people that I've met from like college, plum, and like ventures of parties. Sure. It was like, nice message. You know, like, hey, buddy, sorry you went through this whole thing.

Obviously, the other side of this is going to be much better, and we're pulling for you if you ever need anything dot dot dot 0.15 was surprisingly low though and then like i said i'm like these motherfuckers what the hell how come nobody can take this thing serious and on the other side they're like 0.15 at 4 a.m this dude was belligerent drunk you know like coming after me when you read 0.2 that's a I think you're pretty boozed up. I think you're pretty boozed up. I know there's been people that have blown like.4s and like.3s and I think there's certain fatality.

Yeah, that's like on the verge of like alcohol poisoning and dying to get up in those numbers. So.2, I do believe. Pretty good. I think he's pretty tuned up. Yeah, he had a in the south i think he's pretty tuned up yeah he had a nice night he was pretty tuned up can't be getting in cars in 2023 when that's the case there's so many options especially if you have money you know so there's just like so many

things that go into it we hope he gets the help that he's looking for yeah right yeah sure i hope he gets a chance to rest and kind of recover and everything but like the people that are just pissed off about him like yo this kind of had to happen. It's just, yeah, it had to happen. And who knows who we're going to get next. Exactly. That's a good job. Might be someone even better. Could be Coach K. He might come back.

Nope, he can't win anymore. Remember, he had Zion and three other guys, and he couldn't win. Well, now that we know who Coach K was dealing with, with Zion. Yeah, who knows who he was texting then. Oh, you're right. There's probably a lot of smooching going on. There could have been.

And you heard J.J. Redick was on the show and he talked about how much weight he gained at Duke. J.J. was boozing with the boys every night, remember? Oh yeah, freshman 50 or whatever. That's what the food court did with Zion. We have J. Billis at 1240, which is in like 17 minutes.

So do we start the NBA conversation now? That gives us way too much time to fuck it up. Yeah, it's a lot. A lot of runway. That is a lot of time. Because I was about to – J.J. Redick is a great lead into the Old Man in the 3 podcast. Great podcast. J.J. Redick hosted alongside a man named

jason i do believe and they had wemby on wemby ama is going to be the number one overall pick for tomorrow night's nba draft and he's out of france he's 19 years old and they asked him basically about like you know a lot of these young guys who get a lot of money and fame and stardom and have had this through a lot of their teenage years like a lot of these basketball guys everybody's known they're going to the NBA since like 13, 14 years old. Now, not all of them end up making it, but the guys that end up making it, I think people have been saying, that motherfucker's going to be in the NBA for a long time.

So pampered, you know, kind of like quarterbacks have been treated here in football, kind of pampered. Everything they want, they're kind of handed to. Now, granted, you're going to have to work to get better, but it's not really an actual life that humans can relate to. You're not the next chosen basketball player. Wembe Am has been that. For years, we've been seeing this guy.

This is the next guy who's probably going to make a billion dollars playing basketball. He's going to be the face of one of the biggest leagues on earth. In the sport of basketball, he's going to be able to take it to new heights. You know, Jordan did his thing. LeBron comes in, does his thing. There's a chance the Wemby era is about to begin. Now, Kevin Durant obviously has been a massive part of everything he has been a part of.

And there's other young studs out there. Trey and Joker's in the middle of his prime right now. But they're talking about Steph is obviously one of the greats. They're talking about Wemby being like the next 20 years of basketball. This guy is going to transform basketball. This guy is going to transform basketball. This guy is going to be the face of it all. So J.J. Redick asked him, like, how do you not become like an entitled and grateful bitch pretty much?

And this was Wemby's answer. And he's 19 years old and he's been, I don't want to say, handed everything because he hasn't. He's had to work his ass off. But when you're that good at a sport, everybody around you knows is going to make you very wealthy and everybody very wealthy,

you're going to be like kind of treated a little differently than everybody else. Listen to this 19-year-old talk and then how do we buy all the stock in this human before he gets started on his path in the NBA? We have seen this happen to a number of young athletes who lose, I think, a sense of reality and they lose that grounding principle of their life. What is your totem?

You know, what you just said about young players, this is something I thought about a lot. I know I'm never going to turn like this. I know I'm never going gonna lose a grasp on reality and just do some shit you know because um i'm i know what i want like i'm i'm driven from like from the inside of my heart and like nothing can put me out of my path like i do everything i do everything i can so i deserve what i get and i think some some players are really talented physically or technically, you know, really, really talented. But their mind isn't like as good as their body is. You know what I'm saying? My total is something bigger than basketball, you know.

It's just life. It's just accomplishing yourself inside this universe you know when i need motivation when i need energy and i feel tired out when i need to fight on the court and it's it's hard i always remember i'm i'm free in that universe i do whatever i can and i know what i want to do and nothing's going to stop me from doing it and i always got that in mind and it doesn't just stop to basketball you know it's about life fuck man i mean it's absolutely unbelievable answer there and then afterwards he would say i'm sorry you know if you misunderstood what i was saying like i wasn't being clear and jj was like no no yeah we got you yeah we understood exactly second language obviously saying those

types of things but whenever he's talking about, like, you know, in this universe, I am free to do whatever I want to do or whatever. It's like, yo, this guy's a deep thinker. He's 19. Doesn't seem like a guy now. Might be completely wrong. Doesn't seem a guy that's – because I guess the last 10 number one overall picks have not been great.

Like, here's a guy that could potentially be the guy, and I don't think mentally he's going to fuck them up at all, I don't think. No, he's sitting well-grounded to me right there in this universe. But you can tell he's been the guy for a long time, like a real long time. I'm excited to see what he do. Like we was talking earlier, Tom, everybody that's 7'4", that won the league have been superstars and pretty much panned it out pretty good. Yeah.

And if you see a bouncer at 7'4, you got a question to work at. Oh, you must have. At a bar. Yeah, something happened. You blew both your knees out, all your ankles? What happened? No? Yeah, so.

You just didn't want it, no? Oh, okay. I just want to work outside bars all day. Okay. That's cool. Hey, sweet. I'll buy you a beer when I get in there. I understand you'll probably beat me, but I get in there. Have a cig.

And I understand you'll probably beat me, but I do think I got leverage on you, but I also know you might not be in it for the long haul. That's right. Might not care enough. You're 7'3". You should be in the NBA, sir. Tire you out.

I do appreciate that you're checking for fake IDs right now. Right. When I be seeing them 7'3", guys, the first thing I do is see, are they walking quack, quack, duck feet? Yeah. Didn't that tell us a lot, right? Inj right injury did they get injuries right there are they athletes yeah yeah there's a lot of things you can kind of read because if if one of those security guys

who's seven foot three outside of a bar who looks so good in that black polo yeah yo you don't mean completely yoked tucked in belt on boots too yep you know like he's got boots on and uh he's checking that whole thing how do you not ask when you hand the id to the person like how'd we get here you know oh yeah i've had 10 minute conversations that have ended with me being told i'm not allowed in the bar just because i was so flustered this one guy was seven foot like five seemingly now he was in cowboy boots so you start doing a math. Those things get you. I was so disappointed. I was having a conversation with this guy.

I'm like, bro, if I was... I mean, all you got to do is just get up and down a court. That was back in the day whenever they didn't expect. Like, Wemby can pull up. He can shake. Joker can do the same thing. Kevin Durant, 7' doing... Back in the day, it was just like lumber down, hand straight up, get a rebound, pass that thing, lumber back down the other side,

and then they're going to pull you out. They're going to pull you out, get a break, go back in, do the same damn thing. That's your role pretty much. Now, Shaq was vastly different. There are centers that were very different. I get it. But it wasn't like it is now skill-wise. Just so disappointing.

It was big fun. He's 7'4". Yep. Can shake. Yeah. Can shoot. Right. It was a big fight. He's 7'4". Yep. Can shake. Yep. Can shoot. Right. Has that mindset.

Right. And they said whenever he was coming up, wasn't he doing like feet exercises? Yeah, he's been doing exercises because the big thing with these guys like Chet Holmgren we just saw last year, he's a 7-footer. They get these injuries in their feet, their knees. They actually, the doctors can't tell them how long they're going to be out because their ligaments are, you know, never really seen by most doctors. So he's been doing these exercises to make sure his lower body

and he's not going to get those little tiny injuries. And he's going to the best situation possible. Like in the NFL we talk about, sure, this guy could be good, but this is a good situation. Trevor Lawrence is rookie or a third. Wemby's going to play with Greg Popovich, one of the best coaches of all time, if not the best coach of all time. Pretty good center there in a couple years.

Exactly. He's working with Duncan and Parker and Ginobili. It's already been said that they're going to help him out. It's going to be sweet. He's comically large in that chair. Put the picture up of him and J.J. J.J. is 6'4". Remember, this is the whole in the NBA you only see him on TV

against other next to real tall people. Look at that fucking guy. Crazy. Shout out to Jason. I think he's the other one. Looking like rap, but actually being Nick. You know, he's just got, the guy's got no shot. Yeah, seriously.

Ridiculous. He's long. Pat, this guy, goal line on you. Oh, my God. You have no chance. I know you got that long middle finger. You got that long reach, but I don't know if you're going to get him. What do you do, a 7'4 guy?

I know, because if he reaches his arms up, that means he's 10 feet. At least. At least. If he jumps, I might be in trouble. But if he don't jump, I can get him. You don't even play the ball. You grab his hips, and you carry him out of bounds. That used to be a rule.

No more. Yeah, no more. Just grab his hips and fucking carry him out of bounds. You're catching the big 7'4 baby. Yep. Hey, come over here. You're going this whole thing. Would you try to jam him?

I guess you would have to just jam him. Of course I would try to. It depends on where I'm at. I mean, he's not competing. That guy on the right is 6'4". If it's in the red zone, I definitely wouldn't try to jam. On the goal line, it's impossible. It is 100% of the time a touchdown to win beyond.

So that's why you need to start telling about these security guys that are seven foot tall. Not only do you not have to be, you don't even have to be able to put the ball in the bucket anymore. No. Just go stand somewhere and have somebody just accidentally throw stuff at you. If you can catch it,

you're a red zone target. You're a millionaire. You're a red zone target. You're scoring touchdowns. Fuck, we need a third and two? Middle of the field? Not even red zone. You're just squirting out.

Exactly. Boom. First down. It'd be tough to really lay a big hit on a guy that big, too. You're probably wrapping him up and he's just falling awkwardly. I mean, he's just so goddamn big.

Yeah. If you can get him to take snaps, too, he doesn't even have to catch a ball. He can just take a snap and reach over. I thought it was Mercedes Lewis. 6'7"? Yeah. What did he do to you? No, I'm just saying.

I'm just trying to compare. That's another, what is it, five, nine inches? Yeah. Another fucking foot on Mercedes Lewis five, nine inches? Yeah. Nine? Another fucking foot? Yeah. A Mercedes Lewis? 6'6". True. When we went through that list of wide receivers and the heights, 6'8 was the tallest, right? And it was pretty few and far between when we went through it.

Yeah. And now, if they open up more roster spots, we might start seeing these bigger guys. Now, the basketball tight end move has been something. Tight end university has started in Nashville, Tennessee. Congrats to Kittle. Yeah. Woo! And Olsen.

Mm-hmm. Go, Greg. Go, Greg. And Kelsey. Yeah, Kelsey. Who won the first ever Tight End of the Year Award from Tight End University. Olsen told us that he voted for Kelsey on the show. He did.

I don't know if it was already out that Kelsey had won it. He gave a speech and basically just thanked football for this. Yeah. That's right. Everybody else running around. Kelsey is killing life right now. Dominating life. And this weekend, they are down at Titan University.

I believe it's at Vanderbilt in Nashville. I'm sure it's going to be a blast. But they are also, wait, Nashville this weekend. Yeah. Just put that together, too. Just starting to piece some things together. There's a chance we might be boots on the ground in Nashville this weekend for at least a few moments.

What day is it? It's Wednesday? It's Wednesday. They've got to be out of there by the weekend, right? I'd assume that's a long time. I don't know if they're. That is a long time. That would be a long tight end university if it was Wednesday through Sunday.

So maybe it's the next few days. Last year I thought it was on Friday they had stuff, but also they might have moved stuff because of the award. 20th to the 22nd. Yeah. They're out of there. All right, so we'll be in Nashville after the tight ends have gotten their gang. I do love this, though.

Tight end university taking place, obviously brought to you by Charmin. It's not because they're soft. No, it's the opposite. And then you've got offensive line masterminds happening. I believe there's some wide receiver groups that obviously work out together. Do the DBs do anything? What do the DBs do? We don't normally meet up as a group.

Not when I was playing, anyway. Like, we was cool with other groups, but there's no way that I was going with the Pittsburgh guys to fucking work out. Yeah, that's a different mindset, though. It's a whole different mindset now as far as guys getting together working together but like when we came up we didn't want to work out with them yeah it was very weird when i would want to work out with nobody and now granted i punt balls and kick balls but i didn't want to be around anybody ever and i would start i would start going to this coles camp

where there was like other guys that were good and i started seeing the benefit of like watching other people that are good at what they do and like working alongside of them because you can pick some things up whenever you're watching somebody do like a bunch of reps i saw thomas morstead he's like a robot he's like an actual how you're supposed to punt he does it fundamentally perfect he's in year 14 and he said he's going to go until the wheels fall off so let's do my punt for 20 fucking years he's in incredible shape but i watched him in my form of shit but i watched him like 15 times and i'm like you start kind of getting at least a hang of it so i understood why people would work out together but it didn't feel like any other positions were doing it then

whenever i think the dn started von miller yeah started that pass rusher summit or whatever oh yeah and offensive linemen were pissed And offensive linemen were pissed. Remember, offensive linemen were originally pissed about this because they're like, why are you telling somebody we're fucking playing how they can beat me? That was still the team first model. And then now

offensive line has a group that they kind of get together. Tight ends have a group that they get together. Quarterbacks are always working together although we never know about it. Feels like quarterbacks are hanging out all the time together. With their guys, though. With their quarterback coach. Well, and sometimes the agent, like we saw more. Tom and Peyton used to

and we never heard about it. So I would assume that quarterbacks are potentially meeting, but maybe they're the only group that isn't doing that. But nowadays, it seems like common practice. Go work out with the greats. Let's kind of share secrets. And although people on your team or your fan base might be like,

why are you helping somebody from that team how to get better? It's like, well, they're also helping me get better. The better version of me is better for the team. Like there's so many different angles that you can combat it. I'm happy we're at the point where we're seeing them all come together. But there's some old school people that fucking hate this, everything about it. How much of an impact do you think, like they've talked about the tight ends at least like talking business and like you know the fact that their position is kind of ostracized and you have guys

like kelsey and kiddo who have kind of broken the glass ceiling and they're getting the the big contracts but it's like hey all these other guys like we kind of need you to continue to be getting paid and like kind of sharing game in terms of that not just on the field stuff but like really focusing on you know like the financials of it and and that impact of of being in the league and what did olsen say olsen said dang it's always fucked us yeah yeah yeah uh that was awesome speaking of awesome slam ball is coming back to espn july 21st 21st yeah gonna be sweet Yep. Going to be sweet. Is that when it is? I believe they made it.

That same day is messy. Breaking slam ball struck a two-year meteorites deal with ESPN. The agreement, yep, July 21st, will provide unprecedented national reach for upstart property returning after more than 20 years, which used to be on Spike TV, I think. Yep. Play begins July 21st. As somebody that was 16 when this thing was happening i was the demographic okay i had somebody down the street that had a trampoline we trampoline wrestled we flew around

on trampolines we would drag trampolines next to other people's uh above ground pools and we would fucking fly on said trampolines into pools doing completely dangerous and absurd shit like that was trampolines are a wild thing just in themselves. Then they created this game where they put the fucking trampolines in the basketball court, seemingly. And guys would have to wear pads. And all of a sudden, you have to dribble, kind of. And then they're taking off.

And while they're jumping on a trampoline, anybody's ever been on a trampoline? If somebody jumps right before you, off balance, you're either going to get a dud or a fucking slingshot they used to double bounce people people be hitting their faces off the top of the backboard because they jump too high people getting speared out of midair yeah i mean you're talking about full speed collisions adding in a launching pad to create one of the greatest sports of all time. And then it just disappeared. And when we saw the rumblings

that slam ball was coming back on, boy, did we get fucking excited. You youngs have no idea what you're about to see. And I hope this generation of slam ballers have the same exact gut sack that these boys had. We're talking about attacking the rim

with reckless abandon, knowing that you could break your neck, leg, and arm at the same time. Your body could Tom Segura every single time you take off from the trampoline, and these guys used to do it and get paid nothing for it. Yeah, ridiculous. So now that it's back, it's on ESPN, I think people are going to like it. I think we've got a good sport coming for us, and I am excited that they are a part of the ESPN family. Oh, yeah. This is on ESPN. I think people are going to like it. I think we've got a good sport coming for us, and I am excited that they are a part

of the ESPN family. This is a good play. This is a good play. Basketball has gotten so much better. You don't think that these slam ballers are going to be better too? I assume they're going to add a lot more facets to the game, maybe even more trampolines? I think shooting will be an aspect of it.

I think people will shoot more than they used to because back in the day now granted you had some people that had jumpers 20 years ago you had people that could shoot and they would be weaponized in that thing but it wasn't like today where everybody has to be able to have a jumper yeah to kind of get into it these guys are gonna be shooting the oops from the other side oh man we're gonna do but i can't wait for the first video that comes out boom boom and espn And ESPN is going to have to sit on this. They're going to get questioned. When there is a massive.

Yeah. And there will be. And there will be. You got the fingers too. And that thing is going to go. Oh, yeah. Everywhere. And they're going to say, should we be promoting this sport?

And I think all of us will have to say, they know what they're signing up for. God damn right. And if they don't, they are nuts. Because. Joining us now is a man who might be actually on the call. They know what they're signing up for. God damn right. And if they don't, they are nuts because... Joining us now is a man who might be actually on the call. This year will be his 21st NBA draft that he will be covering. Obviously, he's on college game day during college basketball season. He's an absolute stallion out of Duke and a lawyer who quotes Jeezy.

Ladies and gentlemen, Jay Billis. Jay, how are you? I am doing great, gentlemen. This is my first appearance on the show, and I'm sorry I didn't wear a top. I feel naked. No. Well, if you were naked, you'd be closer to a tank top than what you are now, which is very, hey, very handsome.

You look amazing. I'm a tank top person, you know, because I got a gut, but pretty good arms. So you go ahead and wear this thing to cover it up and make people think you're in shape. You, shoot, handsome man. Looking good. You can wear whatever the hell you please coming on here. We appreciate you taking the time. Before we dive into your

21st NBA draft, shout out, hey, you look young, but 21 years is a long time. We'll get into that. Slam ball, coming back to ESPN. Do you remember the slam ball days, what it was? And is that a sport that you knew about, played, or had interest in 20 years ago when it was taking place?

No, I did not. I did not play slam ball, watch slam ball, just like I am not interested in pickleball right now. Oh! Pickleball is an injury waiting to happen for a guy of my my age group. Well, it is something whenever people because the first couple you feel good. Yeah. So kind of it is like the classic like, come on, come on.

Then you get some unathletic, maybe a little bit overweight whites. They start getting a little bit too comfortable. They're back in their high school days they start feeling it and then you go for a thunderball a little bit low and then boom your knee gives out yeah and i believe the i believe that is happening at a rapid rate that people could have never expected i think you'd be able to handle it pickleball is a great sport slam ball is as well let's talk about basketball so wemby's gonna go number one and then people are saying that they want to move up. People are talking about Zion maybe being traded for this absolutely jocks guy named Scoot, whose mom said that she had to bring his birth certificate his entire life because of what he used to look like and how he's played basketball.

Seems like these guys talk about more than any draft class in the past. They're all going to be home runs, Jay? Well, I mean, I think it's a really deep draft and and i i agree with you like i think brandon miller of alabama will probably be off the board second uh to charlotte because he can really shoot it and that that's going to be the the difference i think he's got size and shooting ability scoot henderson played two years in the g League, and he projects a lot like Russell Westbrook at the same age. Now, who knows whether he'll live up to that the same way Westbrook did. He's been an all-time great, but he's really dynamic, and he can get to the rim.

He's got a wingspan of a guy 6'9", though he's only 6'3". He hasn't figured out the shooting part yet. He can make shots. He's not a consistent shooter, but I think he's going to'3". He hasn't figured out the shooting part yet. He can make shots. He's not a consistent shooter. But I think he's going to be the real deal. Okay, so whenever you think about Wemby now, who obviously is such a fascinating story because every single human in basketball,

and you can correct me if I'm wrong, every single human in basketball is like, this is a guy. This is 7'4", can shoot, can shake. Seemingly, after the old man in the three podcast where we heard him talk about being free in this universe. And when things get hard, I know that I can do and will do whatever I want to do. Seems to be super grounded. Has the entire game.

Has been working out his muscles as the tall guys that can kind of get ligament tears. He's been preparing for this for years. He's just the perfect prospect. People are talking about, like, since LeBron got drafted, this is the guy that everybody's, this is the next one. Is that how you see it? And is there anything that could potentially happen that doesn't make him a perennial NBA All-Star, Jay?

Yeah, he's the best, Pat, that I've seen uh since lebron the best prospect and i don't want to say it's not close but we i've never seen anything like him on a basketball floor the only thing i could relate him to would be i played against ralph sampson in college when he was the national player of the year at virginia he was the number one overall pick and in 1985 uh excuse me 1983 and uh and samson was 7-4 and if he were born 19 years ago he may be just like wimba nyama but he wasn't he was raised in the era where big guys you know big guys on this end guards on this end and you do uh you know you play with your back to the basket and you weren't allowed really to go out on the perimeter and handle the ball. And Wemba Nyama is a 6'2 guard and a 7'4 guy's body. And his impact on the defensive end is profound. He's a big time shot blocker and it's

not just around the paint. You know, he played in the same division in France as Rudy Gobert did. And the number of games were different. I think Gobert played 27 games in that division and Wemba Nyama played 34. But in those 34 games, Wemba Nyama blocked over 50 more shots than Gobert did. And he can switch out onto a guard on the perimeter in a pick and roll and block the shot from the three-point line. He can give him like six feet of space to take away the drive and still recover on a step back and block the shot from the three-point line. He can give him like six feet of space to take away the drive and still recover on a step back and block the shot and certainly influence the shot.

The only thing, to your question, the only thing that can derail Wemba and Yama, in my view, is injury. But he's shown no injury history, and you mentioned it. He's been raised to be a superstar, so he's doing injury prevention stuff that's sort of next level for his age and his stage in the game. You hate to say can't miss with anything, but you certainly feel that way. He's the real deal, and I think he's going to prove it. Well, congrats to the NBA getting that guy. Every league's kind of looking for that. Andrew Luck was kind of what, everybody's saying Andrew Luck is going to be the guy.

First year goes to the AFC Championship, obviously. Continues to go to the Pro Bowl. Then he retires nine days before the season starts. We haven't seen him again. So, hopefully, you know, Wemby's – because he was the last can't miss, right? Andrew? Yeah. I mean, him or I guess Trevor Lawrence would be the –

Burrow? Burrow maybe, right? Maybe, because it was just one year with Burrow. You were can't miss, too. I mean, I remember people saying, best since Ray Guy. Oh, yeah. People were saying I was can't make in the kicking department. And then who knows if he can figure it out.

But that whole can't miss prospecting is tough mentally, too. And it feels like mentally he has it figured out. The only thing that i wonder about is a casual i'm super casual watch every playoff game though okay i have michael malone on the show so pretty much yeah love the guy he's got a tattoo he started with lebron on our show we basically are part of the nuggets organization now so yeah i know basketball but as a casual watcher up until a couple months ago small right any smaller isn't that uh or does it not matter like if joker runs into a wemby joker's gonna try to go right through

his chest right that's probably what a lot of people are gonna try to do to him because he's a little bit thinner or is that just a stupid basketball take like uh like uh old buddy said about that one spolster spolster. Such an amateur fucking thought in basketball. Is that an amateur thought by me to think about that? No, that's a real thing. But he's got the quickness and length to be able to stay off of someone's body and still be really effective. And, you know, the game now is played more in space.

So there's better spacing now than there used to be it used to be a tighter perhaps more physical game and a game that was played more in the paint now it's played more of a spread game so I think that helps Wimbanyama you know what I would say on that point too is is this is probably you7, maybe 08, whenever he came out. But we had those questions about Kevin Durant. He's very slight of build. How's he going to take the pounding of the NBA? And that hadn't been a problem. Wemba Nyama is going to get stronger.

I don't think he needs to get bulkier, necessarily. he needs to get bulkier necessarily um it's just a question of like you know his frame conjures up the idea that his durability going to be an issue but but i think we're kind of at least in my mind we're kind of you know grasping at things like what's the negative here yeah it can't be all yeah it's pretty all positives there aren't a lot of negative like the guy shoots 83 percent from the free throw line and uh it's ridiculous how bold and talented at 7-4 he is yeah and you know we saw him throw a baseball a couple different times last night on the internet and uh aaron boone yeah yeah booney boone thought that he was potentially going to take the kid's head off you know but he did figure it out quick but anytime you're talking about a seven foot four person and the free throw

percentage, like a basketball in his hand looks like a baseball in our hand. It's absurd. So being able to have the touch just like that you would have to have from the foul line is impossible to even think about just strictly due to his build. Last question from me, and I know the boys will have some questions for you. Pop seems to be the perfect coach

to go to, right? I mean, he's had what, multiple Hall of Fame big men. The game has changed though, right? Then the style that they played and the way Tim and Robinson played and everything like that. Or how do you see him kind of fitting into Pop's offense? And what do you think of that relationship immediately? I think it'll be great. I think any player can play for Greg Popovich. He's one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game. can play for Greg Popovich. He's one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game. But, you know, Wemba Nyama is a different player than David Robinson or Tim Duncan. Those were more low post guys that operated with their back to the basket most of the time.

Robinson could step away a little bit and knock down a perimeter shot but wemon yama is more a perimeter oriented player that can go into the post and in today's game he's not going to have to operate as uh as a against or being a low post bully because there aren't that many low post bullies in the nba now it's more of a spread game joker hey watching him in the playoffs he now granted, he can shoot incredibly and everything like that. I was just getting introduced to this dude, and he'd won two MVPs, so that's on me. That's 100% on me. Now granted, the West Coast games, L.A., L.A., Phoenix, Golden State, you know what I mean? There's not a lot of Denver Nuggets games on.

But I saw him because to your point, I thought that basketball was dead. And then I was introduced to him he was running his shoulder right into people's chest underneath and then putting it up and getting the calls i'm like damn this dude is beating people up do you think like football it's maybe going to be cyclical or you think the space is going to be the way it always goes or continues to evolve into i mean i think i think space is the way it's going to, it's going to be now. Could there be, um, outliers? Like if, if, if Shaq came into the NBA now, uh, you would build an offense around him and other teams would have to react with personnel to be able to deal with him. Uh, but there aren't that many of those guys running around't teams don't want to put guys down into the low post

and and clog the middle you know that everybody's looking for open threes uh layups and free throws that's what they're looking for and having a spread floor gives you the opportunity to drive it uh draw help and then play out of it so i think that's the way most teams are going to play uh smaller players are more effective now than they've ever been and you have guys you know years ago maybe 15 years ago 10 years ago whatever you would say well six two the guy's too small and nobody's saying that anymore um now it's about length i mean you definitely want guys with with length because nobody's blocking shots with their forehead or getting getting deflections with their nose.

It's more about the length and athleticism that you have. We're seeing more of that, but playing on the perimeter and being able to shoot it. Shooting's the premium. If you can shoot it, you're going to have an impact there to stretch the defense. I think we can say Steph Curry, probably a massive piece of this entire thing. He changed or at least spotlighted a part of the game that more people trying to emulate because a larger portion of society you know oh yeah like he said six two you know not that real life six two you're fucking you're looking down at a lot of humans nba though you are neck broken looking up you we went to the um clippersSuns playoff game. You forget when you don't go to one of these games.

Fucking avatars, dude. It's absurd. It is so large, lumbering so far back and forth. It's a phenomenal sports, phenomenal league. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Jay, speaking of Jokic, during this year, we saw a lot of the clips of him getting drafted in the second round during the Taco Bell commercial. What is it about, because I feel like the narrative is that outside of the lottery,

it's kind of a crapshoot whether or not the guys are going to maybe blossom into stars or even be a good role player on teams. How unique is it for a guy to get picked in the second round and kind of blossom into a star in the league and is there any chance that's going to happen this year oh it does happen you know there aren't that many two-time MVPs like like Jokic that I think he went 41 in his draft year and you know you could argue well that was a miss, you know, he certainly didn't look the part at the time. You know, the dad bod God thing. But and very unorthodox and still is. I mean, some of the shots he takes look like, what is he doing?

And they go in. They all go. He's an extraordinary player. But there are always players that are taken in the second round that turn out to be way better than they were slotted. But the NBA draft is kind of an odd thing. Like you have, you know, there's so many upside picks because so many of the top prospects are young and they're not fully developed yet. So you're trying to project where they're going to be. And oftentimes, like I would look back at a guy that, you know, back in

the day, like take Grant Hill, for an example. You know, if Grant Hill were coming out now, he'd probably come out after his freshman year, talent wise, and we'd be saying he can't shoot. But his senior year in college, he became a good shooter and was one of the iconic players his first seven years in the league. He put up numbers like only a handful of players in the history of the game did. He was a Sandy Koufax of basketball. Hell yeah. So that's what you try to look at is where's the guy going to project?

And look, a lot of teams missed on Jokic. And heck, Denver missed on him. If they knew he was that good, they would have taken him in the first round with their pick. I think my favorite thing is not only does he get drafted during a Taco Bell commercial, clip hit the internet of him scoring his first points the other day, and a commentator goes, well, I guess everybody's scoring these days.

Basically, this guy, if he was a chip builder, which I don't think he is. I think he's just, I work, I go. Of course. You know, I do. But if he was a chip builder, he'd be able to have stuff for 55 years with the way he came in the league. But then there's a lot of guys that people say, this guy's going to stink. And they do stink. Yep.

We just never really get to talk about it. Excited to hear and learn a new foreign name that comes out of the NBA draft earlier than anybody could have expected. And then they'll say, he's playing in two years, though. It's like, damn, we're wasting the eighth overall pick for two years on another deal. Yeah, he's coming from Spain through Belgium, and then he'll be here. It's like, I don't know if I'm a fan

of that team. I'm fucking thrilled. I don't know about that whole move, but that is always something I feel like that comes out of the conversation of NBA draft night. Last question here from Pac-Man, Jay. Hey, Jay, my question is you got some of these guys that's going G League, some of them going to college. What is the, I'm saying, the greater part of going to the G League or going to college?

Should kids go to the G League if they have a chance to go to the G League, or should they go play in college? That's a really good question, and there's no, I don't think there's a right answer to it. It depends on the player and what the player wants. The G League is really good, a really good option because it's all basketball and it's all NBA. You're playing against NBA players that might be on a two-way contract or they were drafted and they're being put down in the G League to develop. So you're playing in NBA systems against NBA players. And so for a guy like Scoot Henderson, he's had two years of basically playing NBA basketball. So it's a great way to develop as a player.

I still think there's a tremendous value in college for the emotional maturity. The education is certainly important, but also the brand development. We know the college players. People are going, well, a lot of people I talk to, they don't know Scoot Henderson. They're not watching the G League, but they know Brandon Miller. They know some of these guys that have played in college, and they're familiar with them. So the overtime elite piece is more you know kind of glorified

high school basketball uh so it's not as good a competition but the fact that players have a number of outlets now like look you're a football prospect you're going to college there's no other choice uh but basketball has some other choices that are really good um it's just non-traditional so you know old heads like me or or it's different than i'm used to but i wouldn't hesitate if if college wasn't my bag the g league is where i'd be yeah it feels like in just everything you said the g league like scoot that's who's playing over there two years he's been playing against NBA people NBA basketball style too I mean that's if I'm picking

that no obviously give me the 7 foot 4 guy of course but if I can't give me the guy who's been playing against adults but then this goes into your point about projections though you know how everything goes the NBA draft is a fascinating thing you've been covering it for 21 years also

killing it on game day love watching you on Saturdays during the college basketball season. You always look so damn cool, Jay. You always look so damn cool all the time. I wish you were, too. I wish I was as cool as you, brother. I'm a big admirer of yours. All you guys love your show. Hey, I've heard some stories about you offhand.

I've heard you are electrifying, sir. So we are big fans of yours as well. And you crushed it here today. You gave us a lot of information. We're going to act as if it's ours. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, ESPN legend Jay Billings. Champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, current champion

of Ohio, the entire state. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Yeah! A.J., Pac-Man's father-in-law's here. His name's Ulysses, and that's all you need to know. He's fucking awesome. Now, let's dive into some other stuff happening around the sports world, AJ, shall we? Yeah, let's do it.

What's up? It's the offseason. There's really no sports on, so golf is kind of what people get into. NBA draft is huge. Wemby, as you could say, went on with JJ. I know you guys already talked about that. The guy's going to be a superstar. No question. Bro, we stink at talking about this, though. You JJ. I know you guys already talked about that. The guy's going to be a superstar. No question.

Bro, we stink at talking about this, though. You know what I mean? We got to work on this. We got to actually act like we're paying attention to stuff so that when things happen later, we can actually make it appear as if we know somewhat of what we're talking about. For instance, the NBA regular season. Need to try to watch it.

Need to try to mention it to everyone. You know what the outcome is going to be when the regular season kicks up again. AJ, you don't know me, okay? Every day is a day to change. That's right. Every day is a day you can get better. But what happens is when playoff basketball happens, we actually don't know anything about any of the teams.

And everybody knows that we know nothing about the team because we announced publicly that we're refusing to watch games because of how boring they are. So we actually ruin our credibility later right now being too transparent. So what we need to not do, we're always going to be too transparent. Of course. If it's in here, it's coming here. Everybody knows that.

That's what this program is always going to be. That's why people are like, I'm going to the centrum. It's like, good luck, bro. People have been trying to stop this to this For a long time in a lot of different situations So we actually have to watch the games That's what we have to do So that we can talk about them

Alright we'll divvy them up Herbo does the first 50 October to March 1st I think it's fine Once football is over March, April, playoffs start in June. After March, everybody gets five teams.

You're right. Five teams, I'll cover it. YouTube TV, I think, has the four quad box. We can do that, AJ. We can do it, AJ. We can change today. Here we go. Cannot wait. I love basketball. I really do.

I grew up playing basketball, AAU, everything. Sometimes it's tough to watch all the regular season games, but you know what? I'm going to zero in on one or two teams. That's what I'm going to do. It's overwhelming to think of the whole league. You can't consume all of that. Okay, you got the Sacramento Kings and the Portland Trailblazers.

I'll take Steph. Give me the Warriors. I don't know what they're going to look like next year. And the Lakers. Okay. I got the Nuggets. I got the Nuggets. And the Suns.

Okay. I got the Hawks. I'll take the Hawks. And... Someone take the Bucs. 76. Yeah, Boone. I'll take Texas.

Who? Texas. Okay, Dallas and San Antonio. Okay. With Wembley. Okay, you're going to enjoy this. Smart move. I'm going to get Houston, okay? Oh, shit. I forgot about that. Remember when Hard Okay, you're going to enjoy this. Smart move. I forget Houston, okay?

Oh, shit, I forgot about that. Remember when Harden was down there? So sweet. So sweet. They got you doka down there, too, so the strip clubs will do better again. Okay, other things as well. You know what? I will take the Kings.

All right. I'll grab the Kings, and I'll take the Bucs, too. Okay. Wow. Wow, you're a gentleman. That's a lot of basketball. Thank you for doing that. You bet.

And, Connor, you got the Celtics? I'll go Celtics. You know what? I'll throw in the Sixers. Take the Northeast. There's some teams we've missed for sure, but look at us. Now we're doing basketball. So next year, whenever the NBA is two weeks straight of news,

at least people will take us somewhat seriously. Because when I'm asking Jay Billis these questions, as the words are coming out of my mouth, I'm like, is that a fucking – is that even – I have no idea. I have no idea. I have no idea if that is even in the same thought. So I try to let them know as I'm asking the question, like, hey, I don't know shit about your sport.

I watch it. This is just like when we get into MMA conversations. Like when Dana comes on here, every once in a while, there'll be some UFC people that are pissed that I didn't ask about something. It's like, I apologize. I don't keep up with all the storylines. But I watch. Yeah. I'll watch. I'll dabble.

I don't like following all the stories because I feel bad for the people that are getting their faces busted. Sure. But on the other side, I'm pumped for the winners. Yeah. Modern day gladiator. I love watching. I'm just not in the weeds.

So when Dana comes on, I always feel like I'm missing something. But then I feel like the conversation's a good one. Our NBA conversations have been very fucking good. Yeah. We enjoy them. Wendy. Oh, awesome. You remember what he said about you, AJ?

He came in and just was like, where do I go to let this guy know? Yep. What was that, AJ? What was that little? Yeah, he's great. And now we have Woj today, right? Yeah, we have Wojnarowski.

You knew that was his name. Yeah, what is it again? What's the last name? You tell me. You knew that was his name. Yeah. Yeah, what is it again? What's the last name? You tell me. You tell me. Your name is the show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that is something.

What is it? I believe, and I don't want to be misquoted here, and I certainly don't want the Polish not to like me. Sure. Great people. Oh, my God. Pierogies? Are you fucking kidding me?

Oh, baby. Polish day is awesome. We had Rosie's Pierogies right down the street from where I was. Yep. Delightful summer pierogies. It's a Pittsburgh staple, isn't it? Or a Pennsylvania staple. Yeah, the Polish had them.

Kalashkis. So you got the Irish, obviously. You got the Italian. Hell yeah. The Polish had a pretty good little presence in the city of Pittsburgh. Yeah, they did some stuff, yeah. Bro, the Polish got buried publicly by everybody. Yeah, for a long time.

They did. They weren't out thinking anybody. Well, that's what everybody said. And I don't need this program to continue to be that type of projection of the Polish people. But they would openly on the radio say, like, hey, for you Polish people, like, Heinz Field's the one that's dying. If you're looking.

They would actually say that. I'm like, damn. Really? And I don't think I knew any Polish people. I don't think I was around. People were okay with that? That's what I'm saying. The only thing I knew was like, damn, Polish people get buried all the time.

That's literally what I said. And then you start thinking about the people that we know. Polish are a fucking great group. Yeah. Whoever Wojciechowski, who is not Wojciechowski. Correct. Playing defense slapped the floor. That's Wojciechowski, who is not Wojnarowski. That's playing defense slap the floor. That's Wojciechowski. Well, and also.

Yeah, Gene Wojciechowski. From Game Day. Yeah, there's a lot of them. Anyways, I thought they were all related. That's 100% on me, and I think Polish people are probably going to be mad about that. Well, in some way, they're all related. And for the people in Pittsburgh that were saying that they're stupid, I know a stupid Polish person.

So it's not as if that they're completely off base. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with them saying that. You don't deserve that. We'll talk to Woj about that. And what you just said, A.J., real quick, we need to take a moment to do this because we haven't yet today. Your hair looks phenomenal, dude. Hey, thanks, Jason.

You're really proud of yourself. You really brought it yourself. You did a great job. We finally made it all the way to final form of the mullet. It's great to be here. When you talk about patience and discipline and buy-in. You have to. In just some nights where

you're completely fed up with the hair, how it looked, you had to go through phases where we know. Yeah, exactly. That need to be said. It's just a part of growing the hair, how it looked. You had to go through phases where we know. That need to be said. It's just a part of growing the hair out. I'm not going to say it. It's awesome now to hear it. You know through hat phases.

Phases where you have to wear a hat. Yeah, where you look like shit. You went through a shit phase. You get it. Boom, long hair. There is phases where it doesn't look good. And when you're on camera every day, there's a lot of opportunity potentially to say, I'm sick of seeing my fucking hair look the way it looks. Fuck it.

And you stuck with it. And look where you're at right now, dude. That Kentucky waterfall looks better than I think any of us could have fathomed. Me too. We need side profile. I've honestly never had hair this nice or this long. Look at the curls, dude. A little box to the eye.

Get some products perhaps going forward. It's a big day. Happy birthday to that thing that's on your head right now. Thank you very much. Your helmet was born on Wednesday, June 21st, 2023. Happy fucking birthday. It's a great day too because June 21st, Summer Solstice, longest day of the year.

Sun's up the longest. Oh, my God. Let's celebrate it. How about it, huh? Put 18 holes at 7 o'clock tonight if I want to. How's the back porch barbers? JC is what we call him. His brain is back porch barber.

He's a weapon. He did a great job. He did. Speaking of a weapon, he does a great job joining us now for the first time ever. Okay. back porch barber he's a weapon he did a great job he did speaking of a weapon he does a great job joining us now for the first time ever okay he's a man that we certainly had to figure out how his name was pronounced and i'm not sure that i know the right answer to that at this point oh shit never mind insider for the nfl the insider for the nfl absolute dog sorry about it thought it was another insider from espPN because we're in our basketball conversation and Polish conversation.

This man is not Polish, but he does have people in every single NFL building. He's also the host of a podcast named after himself that could be the biggest podcast whenever he wanted it to be the biggest podcast. Because he could break any of the news that he wanted on that podcast and we would all talk about it.

The most recent one, Dalvin Cook on his podcast saying he would love to play with deandre hopkins ladies and gentlemen joining us now senior nfl insider at espn adam schefter hello men well pat these are my first appearance since you and the guys have been welcome to espn so congratulations to everybody there officially welcome to the team it's a great place to be have loved working there and we're very honored and happy to have you aboard. And I also know that I'm just the warm-up act today for Woads. Let's be honest. Woads is coming on.

He's the headliner here, and I am happy to be the opening act for him any day of the week. Listen, got to set the tone. Obviously, those people have very important jobs. To be clear, i did think that he was coming on right now in my head just strictly because we're talking poland right pierogi remember we're talking about basketball and the draft is happening tomorrow so that's 100 on me but we are very thankful that you're back and thank you for the welcome there that was very kind of you you're one of the weapons that we're excited to get to know a little bit more with our addition and entrance to ESPN.

Lucky to be there. Thankful to be there. Thank you for joining us. Let's dive in now. Your podcast could just be the biggest podcast of all time if you wanted it to be, couldn't it? Because you could have any information you wanted, and you could record a five-minute voice memo, and you could upload that as the Adam Schefter podcast, and then you could just put that out, and then all of a sudden everything would have to credit the Adam Schefter podcast, and you'd be able to do whatever. You

could do that. I assume you'd rather just build your Twitter account to be a fucking animal, but in your podcast, Dalvin Cook said he wanted to be teammates with DeAndre Hopkins. Is there any other stuff to that? Any teams that would think about that? And how would that work, you think, Schefter? Well, first of all, i got to talk to you about then growing my podcast here and seeing how i should maximize the growth of that kind of thing because i haven't done as good a job with that as i could so i'd like to talk to you offline about that some other time i just said all my thoughts i said all my thoughts right there i think that's good though because with the voice memo app with the way technology is these days with how you could upload if you could just get somebody to send you a voice memo too, and then you talk to the person,

boom, that's an easy, with your connections, boom, that seems like a pretty simple thing to do. And I only realized that because literally it was like from the Adam Schefter podcast, Dalvin Cook says this, I'm like, man, that podcast could have every fucking tweet. Well, you know, that's very interesting. We've got a few things that are percolating here. You always think some things in the hopper, right? No different now. We'll put that into the processor. Hey, Chefty, 10% now.

You know how this works. That's business. We do that whole thing. Hey, you know what? I'll bring you on as a partner. You've got a lot going on already, but I'm happy to bring you in as part of this. And if there's something for me, there's something for you. So let's go. I like the way you do business. It sounds fantastic, but let's dive into it. Your podcast, Alvin Cook saying that he wouldn't mind being teammates with you.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So back to that, let's get back to that. Yeah. We got that business done. Let's talk about this business. That would be big business. And is anybody thinking about that? Well, I said to him at one point during the podcast, I'm like, have you spoken or reached out to DeAndre? Had any communication with him at all during this? And he hadn't. He's like, I don't have his number. I'm like, I'll send you his number, reach out to him. And that would be interesting. He's like, I'd love to play with him. It would be epic. Now, do I think that that's going to happen? Ultimately, probably not. But it's not out of the question.

It's just a question of whether a team would be willing to play both, whether each guy might be willing to take a little bit less to be together. Again, not a likely scenario, but not out of the question. They're both free agents. You don't find players of their caliber on the street in late June at the same time together. And it looks like neither one's in any great rush. It could happen at any time. But, you know, teams will get ready for training camp and it seems like things will pick up closer to them for them. But if they want to go and make it a package deal,

they could certainly do that. They could talk about that. And it'll be two great guys having your team right now. How do you see that going for both of them? Do you think they are going to, because you said they would have to take less money. Obviously, they would if they're going to the same team. Would it be a one-year type deal that we're kind of seeing out of some other players? Got to prove it type deal. That's why they would take the pay cut and they would prove it and win and then potentially get another big deal somewhere else.

How would that work? And have you heard from teams on whether or not they're going to pay DeHop or pay Dalvin Cook, who we both believe, you know, still up here in the whole thing. But it is June. You know, it is a weird time. Well, I think the idea of them playing together is probably more fantasy football than anything else. But like I said, not out of the question.

And so DeAndre visited Tennessee and New England. Could I see Tennessee be interested in Dalvin? No. Could I see New England make a call? Yeah, I could see that. Now, could they both wind up in New England? Again, it just seems a little bit of a stretch, but why not, right? Like, I don't think it's a likely scenario, like I said.

That would be a team that would come to mind. Right. Like, I don't think it's a likely scenario. Like I said, that would be a team that would come to mind. I proposed on my podcast that the New York Jets should take a run at Dalvin Cook. Like, that makes sense to me. If you look at the Jets schedule early in the year, it's a gauntlet. Look at their first six, seven games. They play the Bills. They play the Cowboys. They play the Chiefs. They play the Eagles. Cowboys. They play the Chiefs. They play the Eagles. They are really up against it early. And we don't know how soon and how effective Brees Hall is going to be coming back from the ACL that he suffered in week seven last year. So if Brees Hall is not 100% and you could compliment him with a guy like Dalvin Cook, great. Now, maybe you do a deal with Dalvin and then you say, hey, DeAndre, we'd love to have you here, too, in New York. I know we haven't visited yet, but why don't you come to New York?

He's in New York right now. He's posting videos like it's not hard to get him out to New York and go visit with the Jets. So, again, probably more fantasy football, anything else. But on June 21st, it's a fun topic to talk about. It certainly is. It certainly is. And we appreciate your passion and your selling there. Because as a New York Jet, I'm thinking like, Brees Hall, we forget Brees Hall. Brees Hall was so good. Yeah, unbelievable. Immediately in the

NFL, he gets in, and every single week, we see this motherfucker running away from people. We see him pulling away from people that are smaller than him. Every single week. Hey, let me tell you something. You think about it. He would have won. He would have won the Offensive Rookie of the Year, and instead, Garrett Wilson wins the Offensive the offensive rookie of the year and Sauce Gardner wins the defensive rookie of the year so they got some young talent there and Dalvin there in New York to me would make a

lot of sense um I don't know how interested the Jets are or aren't I would think that it'd be logical that everybody wants to go play with Aaron there so we'll see if the two sides can somehow get together at some point in time and in my opinion make a match that would make some sense for both sides could you imagine this Jets team going on a run all could happen in Green Bay go ahead AJ Shefty do we know if there are still players like under investigation with this whole gambling situation I know the NFL put out their six bullet points or whatever on what you should do and also is this are any other professional sports worried that this is going to bleed into their sport? Are they investigating their players, say, in baseball, basketball, everything else? Well, I asked that very question to the NFL yesterday. They had a conference call to kind

of go over all these rules and tell everybody all the things that players can't be doing. And you're not allowed to bet on football. You're not allowed to do it for your team's facility you're not allowed to bet on your own games the one guy right now that's going to be in trouble is the Colts cornerback Isaiah Rogers I asked the league specifically that question AJ I said do we have an update on how close uh Isaiah Rogers is to being this one and are there other players under investigation, league decline comment. So I just think that they're trying to send a message and make it very well known with all players. Like they've already visited 12 teams in recent weeks to give them the point by point bulletin, a 30 minute slideshow about the things that players can and can't do.

They're scheduled to visit six more. So that means they'll have visit 18 of the 32 teams. They're trying to get in front of them, trying to get in person. It's not hard. We can save them the work right now. Can't bet on football games. Can't do it in your facility.

Can't do it on the road trips. Can't do it in your team's plane, on the bus to the state. Can't do it. Yeah, and the way you're delivering that is exactly how it sounds whenever the NFL has to go around and tell people about something that's very important that somebody else in the league certainly fucked up. You know, the NFL had a lot of those moments.

It's like, hey, everybody, four-hour conference right now. Right now. Can't be doing this. And then it goes in. I don't want to talk for everybody. But Pat, owners are allowed to make deals with gambling companies. Of course. And they are allowed to open

sports books in their stadiums. So it's good for the owners. Of course. Everybody else got to be a little careful. And we agree though. We think the integrity of the sport has to remain. And if it does and can, even though everybody's talking about the scripting conversation on the Internet was loud last year. Loud, loud, loud. This is scripted.

This is scripted. This is scripted. And as the sports gambling world continues to go this, that gets louder. It feels like those two are on the same path. People lose something, and they see some fuckery, and they think to themselves, Yeah, he's got to be working against me. He's got to be working against me. He's got to be working against me. So if they lose the integrity,

like hearing that Isaiah Rogers was betting on NFL games, they should tell us if it was on the Colts or not. Like that is a piece of information I think the public should hear. You know, because if he was betting, let's say, against the Colts, and even if it wasn't on the Vikings game, largest comeback in NFL history happens after a 33 nothing thing people start piecing that together the league's gonna take a fucking hit for that like people aren't gonna necessarily trust what they're watching and that's

the only thing I think that can slow down this money train that the NFL currently is so I agree with it and I try to tell them like in no I don't know how many dudes watch our show. I'm sure they see clips. Whatever. You get it. Like, just when you retire, sports gambling is going to be so much better. Yeah.

It's going to be so much better. The tech's going to be figured out. You know, you're going to know more. The money's going to be made. There's going to be more states. More regulations have been figured out. You guys are going to fucking crush it. Just do it when you retire,

because everything else, because whenever you talk about the hypocrisy of, obviously the NFL can make money off it. That's happened with alcohol and scratch-offs and everything like that for a long time. But it's like, hey, just wait, boys. You can't do it, boys. But some people aren't going to listen, Shefty. And that has to be a real fear.

The league has always, always harped on the integrity. It's always been one of the biggest points. Like, you remember when Tony Romo was going to do a fantasy football in Las Vegas and the league stepped in and blocked it. Like it was crazy that they were so opposed to anything that was even around gambling around Las Vegas. And now we have a franchise in Las Vegas.

We have a Superbowl in Las Vegas. We've got sports books. It's a different day and age, but to go along with that, to try to protect the integrity of the game, the league is making it a point to anybody that finds with records of that, that, hey, you're going to pay the price if we find that you violated the rules. And I think they're connected to these gambling sites and the fantasy sites so that if a player opens an account or is betting, they're triggered right away. And that player's in trouble almost immediately.

Yeah. That's why when we heard what thousands bets, hundreds of bets, hundreds of bets, it's like, man. So they just said when they find out, like at his fifth bet and they're like,

let him keep fucking going. Let's just make the case. Let's make the case. Let's make the case. I'll tell you one thing. I'm very glad that I don't work for the NFL anymore. Cause I love playing fantasy football way too much. Are you good you i bet you're good huh you're a bitch because you got that inside information you know what i i've never won in our league we've got an espn war room league

16 teams i've never won it never won it but we have a basketball league and i've won the basketball league three the last four years explain that really huh you don't i love i love fancy bat love love yeah like daily or season long what is it season long like live and die with it love that shafty how do you have fun and i love fan and i like and you know what fancy how do you have time shafty you got podcast you got all the the amount of humans you have to talk and then you what you keep a daily journal right yeah you keep like a daily journal right? You keep a daily journal. How do you have all the time? You've got to be like a robot. How do you do it?

I have every day of my life documented since 1990. Every single day. Disappearance will make the journal. But, you know, look, I don't have a baby at home like you to take care of. I've got a 14-year-old girl. It's my son's birthday today, too, 23. So I've got grown kids so I can now play fantasy football. My wife loves, loves that I go from phone calls to playing fantasy.

She has no issue with it whatsoever. It's great. Yeah, love. That's real. That's genuine. I'm happy to hear that, though, Shefty. You guys have good times. You hear this?

It's not just work, work, work, work, work. No. It's not just work, work, work, work, work. How many times? Fantasy. Sports. Basketball. Guys are fucking, work, work, work. No. He's not just work, work, work, work, work. How many times? No, he's fantasy. Fantasy. Basketball. Basketball. That's a fucking ringer.

I'm work. I'm fancy football, fancy basketball, work, work, fancy golf, fancy basketball, work, work, fancy golf. Yep. Oh, and you got a nap in there somewhere. I haven't seen him. But geez, keep going, Shefty. Pac-Man has a question for you.

What up, Shefty? What's up, Pac? What's up, man? Sam Fran, they still got the three-head monsters with the quarterbacks. They say Purdy is ready to go. Do you think the younger boy will get traded before camp, or do you think they're going to stick with all three of them? No, you know, here's the thing.

There really was never a lot of interest in Trey Lance. For what they gave up and what they get back, which is not very much at all, it doesn't make sense to trade. There was no trade market. And Kyle Shanahan has said that they didn't have any trade talks with teams. He's not going there. He's not going anywhere right now. He's there. Now, I will say this. Sam Darnold signed with the 49ers on the first day of free agency. And if there's a player signing with the team on the first day, that tells you that the team really liked that guy. And they really did like Sam Darnold.

He was looking at a couple of different options. He chose the 49ers. But let's also be very clear that Brock Purdy, if he's healthy, he's the guy on opening day. He's the starting quarterback. He's the number one. If he's not, if for some reason he can't go, we'll see how Darnold and Trey Lance do in camp this summer. My guess would be Darnold has a chance to really shine and excel, but there's a lot of preseason football left for those two guys to distinguish themselves.

So Trey Lance never get on the field. We never get to see what he can do, really, because he only played three or four games. In San Francisco, I would say this. I would think that, look, Brock Purdy is the one, if healthy. And I think going into camp, Sam Darnold, I think, has the edge going into camp. But by the way, Trey Lance could play great. He worked over the summer with Mahomes, and I heard he's made tremendous improvements. I'm anxious to see how much he's improved and whether he can make that jump.

Let's see it. Yeah, we all are. I think the Trey Lance story is so fascinating. And obviously, you're on top of all of it that draft day, like we potentially were as well for that one time in the history of our entire show's existence. Them trading up, you know, moving the future, trading up to three, and then allegedly there being a little bit of a conflict between who wanted what and who wanted what i don't think that's right i'm just telling you they traded up they traded up with the idea

that they loved mac jones okay that when they made that trade oh yeah they traded up with the idea that they were going to draft with the idea that they're going to draft Mac Jones while also having, I think it was six weeks to the draft, maybe a little less, a month or so, to look at the other prospects. And while they looked at the other prospects, they fell in love with the intangibles that Trey Lance demonstrated. He did testing and tested off the charts in terms of intelligence. They brought him in the building. The guy was ultra impressive. And even though they traded up with the idea of picking Mac Jones while doing their work, they became enamored with this guy and the upside that he had. And I think they felt like if they take Mac Jones, then their offense, which many teams

run versions of and they copy what they do, will continue to be duplicated. But it would be harder to duplicate what they do with a guy like Trey Lance, who freelances and plays spontaneous football the way he does. And so in the end, they went for the guy with the bigger upside, a guy that had great intangibles, and they went for Trey Lance. But I'm telling you, when they made the deal, the motivation initially was Mac Jones. Yeah, in their eyes, the bigger upside, which is fascinating. And I guess you could see how the narrative

that they were split on that decision could come because somebody who might not have chatted with one side for like a couple months heard this person wanted Mac Jones. Like everybody's saying Shanahan wanted Mac Jones, and Lynch wanted Trey Lance. Let me say this. They could be split. They could have all these people. They could have all the people they want with all the opinions. In the end, Kyle Shanahan is the head coach. Kyle Shanahan, whoever he wants, I don't care what the voices say. If there are so many voices that present

Trey Lance and they're so persuasive and he listens, then yes, that's what they'll do. But ultimately, every organization's got a lot of voices, but one guy in the end that makes the decision, right? So who's the, you're saying Shanahan's a decision maker? Kyle's the decision maker there, yes. Him and John together, him and John together, the decision maker there yes oh him and john together him and john together john is there to support kyle and to do basically the way they want to run it okay so let's go on that note so now kyle shanahan john lynch they end up being enamored by trey lance so now yes do you think

they have enough pride i guess they would have to at this stage, to be able to say, you know what? We don't have to get a look at this guy that caused quite a stir, quite a conversation, the way we traded, the move that was made. We were initially on this guy. We traded the future of the organization on this guy, and then we fell in love with this guy more doing this whole thing. Don't you think at some point they're going to want to look at that, like get an actual, like were we right? I think for like Maddenden games players don't have like emotions or egos or pride or any of

those no they're waking up 94 every single day that's it coaches same thing they're waking up whatever you want to call them it's like humans though when they get involved there's legacy there's pride there's ego there's a a lot of potential worry that you're going to be viewed as a failure, especially when you trade a couple of the future first-round picks on it all. They can move past not really getting an actual look at Trey Lance,

or do they view that they've already kind of gotten a good, thorough look at what Trey Lance is, and they just have decided? They have gotten a good look at Trey Lance. They've seen him every day during otas during training camp during preseason games during two regular season they've seen it now what they've seen so far may be different than what they see in the future players evolve i'll go back to when mike shanahan was the head coach and kyle was the ball boy and

i'm covering that team and the broncos drafted in the first round during their first super bowl year a guy by the name of trevor price who in his first year as a first round draft pick was no good. He was terrible. They were ready to cut him after one year. And then the guy became one of the best defensive linemen in the game. Players grow and evolve over time. And just because they don't pan out early in their career doesn't mean that they're not going to pan out later. Different players have different growth cycles, especially a guy like Trey Lance, who played so little college football, who sat out during the COVID years. His growth cycle is different than maybe any player we've had because of the lack of experience. So I think they're waiting at a

certain point, and maybe it was this offseason when he spent time around Mahomes, that they see this growth in him. But up to date, he hasn't been as ready as people would like, right? Up to date. That doesn't mean he won't be this. We don't know. That's why I said, I, and I'm sure they, are excited to see what he can do because he does have talent and he does have upside. But again, he again he's learning growing and evolving and continues to do so that's interesting that's fascinating you said a lot right there it's almost like shanahan like cares like we he's not like hey ready to move on from trey lance it's like uh when we put him out there i want him to look good yeah we made a pretty big decision here we'd like him to look good whenever we put but you know what here's the thing they did make a big decision, but they also hit on Brock Purdy.

Oh yeah. So, so yeah, but chef, you know, you and I both know GMs aren't like that. GMs don't view it that way. Like there's GMs that don't care that they drafted a guy in fifth round.

It's like, well, I know, but they trained all those picks. They trained all those picks to solidify the quarterback position. And it looks like in a roundabout way, they have. So again, so let's see if trey lance turns into the

quarterback that they envisioned which he's been okay so far but there's more there and it's up to them to harness that and him to grow it and let's see and in the interim they hit on a guy that has been better than they ever expected let's's go. Better than anybody. Absolute dog. Go ahead, AJ. Chef, do you have any idea what kind of level of activity and throwing that Brock Purdy will have throughout training camp? Is he going to get much time in these preseason games? I know he's already throwing, but we don't know exactly the velocity or what he can do. It's all been charted and planned. They have a whole game plan for him, and I don't know the specific game plan for the summer.

I'm sure he won't be throwing every day like whatever the doctors have prescribed to them in terms of what is necessary for that recovery but you know they're optimistic optimistic but don't know that he'll be ready for opening day but there's still a whole way to go there's a whole plan that's in place you know how these coaches plan out all their practices for all the training camp well there's a brock purdy plan too probably right like you just laid out i don't know the specifics of it but everything that he does is going to be closely monitored all summer long that's awesome to hear and that's very you know uh operandus modus operandi that's modus operandi that is standard operating procedure for pretty much everything.

Physical therapists put together a plan. You're throwing seven balls here. You're doing this here. You're doing this here. Has he checked all the boxes? We assume he has. They said everything's going to be fine. Okay, good.

Hey, that's pretty good. Hey, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Connor has a question for you with a new mullet. Shefty, what's going on up in Buffalo? Obviously, the Stephon Diggs kind of kicked off this whole entire, you could say, drama up there. What's the reason for all that?

Him being in the building, him not being at camp, him being away from the building, then he's back at camp. And then with Leslie Frazier, what's going on? There's rumors that, and maybe they've been confirmed, maybe they haven't, that he didn't just step away. He was almost let go and that he won't be returning to Buffalo. And then lastly, this was kind of recent news. They got 60,000 seats in their new stadium,

but they have 63,000 season ticket holders. How the hell is that going to work? That's a Patriots fan. That's a Patriots fan. Just curious. All questions. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot there, Conor.

We'll start with Diggs. And I'll just say that I think that his unhappiness goes back weeks, if not months. Yeah, yeah. receiver in football, but I think it was when he was getting it, how often he was getting it, when games were on the line. I don't know that he felt like he was being counted on to his level of productivity. And so there's been things with him that have dated back for a while. Now, it certainly seems like they got in a room, they all talked about it. They made their attempts to appease him and all sides put their issues on the table. And we'll see how it goes. I think for now, everything is good. But let's see what happens if they lose a game and he doesn't get the ball. And let's see if it lasts.

Leslie Frazier, I don't know specifically. I have not heard that. I'll just say Leslie Frazier is one of the finest men that I've ever met in the National Football League. He is an unbelievable guy. It's hard to imagine that somebody like him and Sean McDermott couldn't get along and figure something out. But I don't know the specifics of that. And those seating issues, those are the issues you want.

When they open that new stadium, there'll be 863,000 people in upstate New York that want to go to those games. Everybody is going to want to go to the games. And if they have 63,000 season ticket holders for 60,000 slots, well, all that's going to do is elevate the demand and everybody's going to want to go to that new stadium to go see that team anyway. Those are good problems to have for that team.

Hell yeah. And their team has good culture, good vibe too. So to what you said about McDermott and Leslie Frazier, they had to find a way to get along. Everything we've heard out of that building is good. That's why the Stephon Diggs stuff is crazy. Because Poirier, Micah, Dawson Knox,

Gabe Davis, Vaughn Miller, Josh Allen, Cole Beasley, after his second album, before his third, Mitch Morse, been on the program. Anybody else? Naeem Hines has been on the program. Trey White, he popped in one time. Tredavious White.

Everybody we've talked to up there loves fucking being in Buffalo. Like, they love being in a bill. So that's why the Stephon Diggs stuff kind of came out of nowhere for all of us, I think. I mean, it was because we've seen him in Paris Fashion Week. Yeah. And then he's pissed. He's dancing in that crowd, which looks sweet. He's a great guy. I love Diggs.

Wide receivers are different sometimes. And in this particular case, maybe that's what which looks sweet. He's a great guy. I love Diggs. Wide receivers are different sometimes. Maybe that's what this is about. They pre-Madonnas already told the boys, these wide receivers are pre-Madonnas, man. Yeah, I mean, there has been some situations that have certainly said that, but then you got Megatron. Boom.

They all still pre-Madonnas in some kind of way, bro. Randy Moss, obviously. They all pre-Madonnas in some kind of way, bro. Randy Moss, obviously. They all pre-Madonna's in some kind of way. Yeah, but Randy Moss got on your head. Yeah, he did. I don't know if he went on your head. He would go everybody.

He's great. I'm not getting into it, but in my eyes. Some wide receivers are so freaking good at tailgating. There's nobody that's more fun to mess with at ESPN than Randy Moss. I love stealing that guy's shoes when he's not looking, hiding them from him, make sure he can't find them. It's great. That's it.

You're sneaking under a thing, grabbing his shoes, and get him out of there? Oh, yeah. I've done it a few times. Anything you can do to mess with Moss is always fun. He's like greatest athlete of all time He is unbelievable Oh yeah He was a punt returner

There was a punt returning award named after him That's how fucking good of a punt returner he was Imagine that guy sitting back there catching punts No way The highlights of him and Jason Williams in high school Playing basketball And then the stories about him showing up in jeans And saying who's the fastest on this fucking field.

And they're just smoking him. What a dog, dude. He's an interesting guy. I love him. He's an interesting guy. You're taking his shoes and hiding these things. I mean, your Monday night countdown crew is fantastic. I believe we just lost some lights in here,

and we're back. That was Ulysses. Ulysses walked around. He was too electrifying, sent shocks through the entire Thunderdome. Ty has a question for you. Shefty? Shefty, what's going on with Tyreek Hill? We saw the report that he allegedly assaulted someone

down at some marina in Miami. Do you know what's going on there? And how serious of a situation is this? Well, did you see Drew Rosenhaus swimming with the sharks? Yeah, what was that? You think that shark was in trouble and Drew was like, I'm going to give me the fucking thing and hops out there?

What do you think that was? There has to be some correlation between that, right, Pat? Like, you know, Tyreek was protecting. No, I don't know what the deal is, other than he's under investigation for an alleged assault. This is not that. Drew Rosenhaus went fishing with Tyreek Hill. Now, I was wondering, they put up the tweet, they put up the videos of Drew swimming with the Sharks,

and then the news comes out that Tyreek is involved in an incident that's under investigation by the Miami police. I don't know if it was the same day, if it's related. I don't know what the deal is there. But look, the NFL will wait for the legal process to play itself out. We'll see what the police do or don't come up with. If there's something there, then the league will have to step in. And if there's not, we'll see what they come up with down in Miami. But the police are looking into it.

Not the kind of headline that you want this time of the year. Those are the things you want to avoid. I'm excited to hear Drew's side of it all. He's there. You know what I mean? And Drew. Well, Drew will tell you about how he wrestled with the shark, you know. Greatest day of my my life How great it was

How awesome it was And then immediately upon getting back on land I mean Tyree was still fired up And now we got a full A bop on the back of the head That is what the report said It was like a

Marina hand or something like that And he came up and bopped him right on the back of the head The guy's not pressing charges the report said is that uh it was it was like uh you know a marina hand or something like that and he came up and bopped him right on the back of the head the guy's not pressing charges at this time but okay well i'm happy to hear that there's no charges being pressed obviously for any nfl player but sometimes you give a little bop that can be a little startling oh yeah they're not ready for it you know i mean most most has done that to me when i've taken his shoes i'm not pressing charge oh you're gonna bother by monster me when I've taken his shoes. I'm not pressing charges. Well, you're going bald by Moss. You're sneaking around there and stealing his shoes.

Last question here, a little bit of a hypothetical. Yeah, Shepty, it is June, so the middle of June, and the news is a little bit slow. So let's play hypothetical. In Arizona, Kyler's not going to play for a good bit because of his injury. There is a new GM. There is a new head coach. They didn't draft him.

They didn't pay him. Is there a chance now they're projected potentially to be the number one overall pick last year? Is there a chance that Kyler could potentially ever be traded and that Drake May or Caleb Williams would be their number one overall pick next year? Definitely. I think that's all

part of the conversation. They're not the ones that backed Kyler. We've seen that GMs and coaches like their own people. They're saying and doing right now all the right things to support Kyler when they put up the statue or retired his number, whatever they did at Oklahoma. They all went, which was great to see. They're standing behind him. They're supporting him. But let's be honest, they are loaded in the draft next year. They've got their own one, which potentially is going to be a high pick. They've got the Texans one, which could potentially be a high pick. There's some scenarios where they could be picking one and two. So if there is a generational quarterback on the board,

like Caleb Williams, of course, like that's going to be a storyline that follows them all year long. And we're waiting to see if and when Kyler can come back. But yeah, it's a new regime loaded with picks. So yes, there are questions about his future there, which is why it was important for him to get paid. And it was a good thing that he got paid last year. And we'll see where that all goes now. Last question, actually. And I think it's new regime.

Saquon Giants are back talking. How do we feel about that before the deadline? They've been communicating all along. They have not made very much progress. And look. What do you mean? Hey, how you doing? Still.

All right. See you tomorrow. We need more money. We're not going to give you. Here's the issue, right? Like Daniel Jones gets, what, $40 million a year on average. Dexter Lawrence gets close to $20 million a year, maybe more. I forget the exact number. And I think everybody could agree that Saquon is probably the most valuable player on that team.

So you're telling me that he's going to be paid a third of what Daniel Jones makes, half of what Dexter Lawrence makes. Like, it's crazy that he's that good. But that's the debate that both sides have to figure out by the July 17th deadline to sign a long-term deal because you've got their best player, but you've got them playing a position that just isn't paid the way that other positions are. So he's arguing I'm valued with your team.

They're saying you play running back. That's not a highly paid position. And we'll leave it to them to try to figure out and split the differences of the things that they've been unable to agree upon throughout the course of this offseason where it gets interesting is that they don't have a deal after that deadline on july 17th what does he then do what does josh jacobs do what do they do without long-term contract because those guys have to get paid they're incredibly important to their teams yeah and you never know what next season is going to bring

or how the team is going to be. Your stock can go down, especially at a position that stock is already down. So good luck to all parties. I hope that everybody gets a deal done worth a billion dollars. Joining us for the first time in, it's been a bit. It has. Almost like the watch-along. It was fantastic.

We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for joining us today. Well, I'm happy to be the opening act for Woj anytime. Enjoy him. I mean, he's going to have real news today. He's going to have real news. He's got real stuff going on. Real stuff.

As opposed to June 21st in the football world. No, Dalvin Cook said he thinks about potentially playing with DeAndre Hopkins. That's real news. I love the guy. Real news. We appreciate the hell out of you,'s real news. I love the guy. Real news. We appreciate the holiday, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Schaefer. Yay!

And Adrian Wojnarowski is joining us in moments. Let's go. AJ, I don't know how many times you've practiced saying his name. I will say that I've practiced it over the last five minutes more times than I would like to admit publicly. This is a tough one for my style of speaking to say. This is a tongue twister, but what I do know is this man's going to have all the breaking news about the NBA draft that's happening tomorrow night.

And it matters because there's potentially a NBA changer getting drafted at the top of it, a seven foot four man simply known by the name of Wemby out of France who's 19 and more enlightened and deeper thinking than any of us in this room for sure combined no doubt what else do we need to know about i guess there's just a trade yeah yeah lillard and the trailblazers what they're going to do with that pick paul george potentially getting traded um jayland brandon miller yeah yeah out of Out of Alabama. Zion. Which, Brandon Miller. Yeah, we remember. Player. Guy's really good at basketball.

Really good. You know how we know he's really good at basketball? Why? Because he's still playing basketball. Yeah. You know what I mean? And what happened in the lines being introduced for those games right after. He's very, very, very, very good at the basketball.

Yes. He says Paul George, best player of all time. Not LeBron James. Or a player of this generation not paul george brandon miller did so i enjoy that brandon miller is a free thinker yeah right he is not conforming to anybody what else do we need to know about what's going on adrian wesnarowski will tell us that in a matter of a couple of moments let's talk about some things that are happening in the NFL world quickly. And, you know, Shefty kind of hinted at it a little bit. Josh Jacobs, another franchise tag running back that we have not talked about.

All conversation going through Saquon and the Giants. Josh Jacobs, hell of a football player. Oh, yeah. Seems like it's been rocky with Josh since day one when he was playing in the Hall of Fame game. How do you feel like that works out? And we haven't really talked about Josh Jacobs at all. That's a real thing going on right now in Las Vegas. Yeah, that's a real thing

including they don't have a quarterback right now. You need a running game. You ain't got nobody to throw Adams the ball. You need to figure out something quick. But I think he deserves to get paid, man. He's been playing really good for a good little time. So hopefully he'll get paid. Hopefully they can meet him in the middle of somewhere. We were just talking about the Barkley thing.

We're saying no but like it's going to be players that did the same thing that got down and Baltimore did. And we say he was hurt, but sometimes you've got to make business decisions. And I just don't see the best player on the team getting not even half of a guy that's not even catching 200 balls. What about Jimmy? I mean, you talk about Jimmy G getting paid.

Now, granted, it's all become incentive-based based on a physical of the foot that requires surgery that we didn't know about. We thought the shoulder was a problem. Turns out he still had a foot problem that was lingering, I guess, into his physical with the Las Vegas Raiders. But he's getting paid whatever that contract is.

And Josh Jacobs is like, oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. What is, you know? This guy hasn't even played for us. This guy is, how come I can't? You think they're going to pay him? It seems like they're on that path of, hey, let's franchise him, and then we'll let somebody else pay him.

Josh McDaniels probably never, not never, but probably not going to pay a running back. There is little to no chance he gets paid. You just mentioned Josh Jacobs is saying, oh. I think Josh McDaniels is the one saying, oh. Okay, Josh, you want to get paid? You're not going to get paid as a Raider. And that's just the reality of the situation.

And I think because of the Darren Waller situation, how that played out with Josh McDaniels, I'm not so sure. McDaniels is like, hey, this town's only big enough for one Josh. And unfortunately, that's me. It ain't you, Paul. We're just talking because we're always talking about Saquon stuff Josh Jacobs has arguably had the better career so far he had yes it's almost 1700 yards last year he's awesome three three of his four seasons had a thousand

the one that he didn't he had 800 he's had over 10 touchdowns like almost every like that's crazy like also he was good about was homeless right uhhuh. Living in his car with his dad. Yeah. Josh Jacobs, homeless at one point in his life, grinding through everything like that. And if you just look at the Raiders situation in this past year, I guess it's just fresh topic, especially in the offseason, if we're talking about a player. He played in a Hall of Fame game, you know?

And when we saw him in the Hall of Fame game, anybody that's been around the NFL was like, why is Josh Jacobs playing in a USFL gamefl game yeah there is a usfl game happening in nfl uniforms in canton ohio at a high school stadium and josh fucking jacobs is the only one playing there and he got like boy he got like 15 carries yeah he got the ball a lot and it was like what the hell's going on and then we automatically assume well josh mc McDaniels and him must not get along. He works his way back, seemingly quiet. Didn't cause a single peep about it all. Gets a C on his chest.

He becomes like the most valuable part of the team. I wonder, you know, Josh Jacobs is a human. He remembers how this whole thing started. And then whenever these businesses, the business offers being made, he's probably remembering like, this guy wasn't in on me ever. That's an easy thing you can see kind of get personal maybe. And then he tweets out bad business, which that could be to anything. Of course.

That could be to anything, AJ. He might have been watching, you know, the Vanderpump Rules. Shark Tank. Definitely. He's a big Tom Sandoval fan here. Okay, so that's the one everybody hates, right? Well, actually, no. That's not the right one, right?

I don't know. No, it is. He stinks. It's the one with the mustache. He talks shit on Pittsburgh, too. Fuck that guy. Who did? Who did? This guy plays in a fucking cover band, okay, and he was bitching about having to go tour and do

a show in Pittsburgh. Fuck you, pal. Hey, pal, we don't even know you're there. Cover band's playing. We're not there for you. We're there for the booze. Don't smash a fucking guitar over his head. You're goddamn right.

And then he said, call Aaliyah, dude. The whole thought, okay, that this scumbag... What, AJ? What happened? I didn't hear. What did he say about Pittsburgh? He was bitching about having to go play with his cover band in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It's like, hey, bub. Great place.

Just learned that you said that, and I can start piecing some things together. Everybody hates you because you said that. I think that is why. No, no, no. Everybody don't hate him. What are you talking about? Everybody don't hate him. Oh, Pac-Man likes him because of that.

I'm just saying. What do you think? Everybody. Oh, yeah. You do not want to be on this guy's side. Pac-Man likes him because of that. I'm just saying. What do you mean everybody? Oh, yeah. You do not want to put this guy aside. Pac-Man, bad idea? Bad idea? Everybody hates this guy.

I don't know what he did, but he did something that made every human hate him. I'd never seen, you know, every once in a while there'd be a random fucking trend. And I'm like, what is this? All capital letters normally? It's like, well, somebody really wants to make a statement. And this one had like five digits under it, the amount of tweets. Holy shit. There's like 55,000 tweets about this.

Something. This guy fucked up. We're talking. He cheated. Is that what it was? And he lied. And he stole. What?

Yeah. Lie, cheat, and steal? Yeah. I think the cheat vote was the big one. Yeah, I don't know about the stealing. I kind of just threw that in there because I thought it might sound good. Allegedly. Got it.

Arson. From what I've gathered, this guy is a massive piece of shit. He's the opposite of what we did with Joe DiNardo is what was happening to him on the internet. Is he a singer? He's a singer? Is he lead or is he guitar? Yeah, he's lead, but I mean, it's a cover band. What's he playing?

What's, you know? He's not an ax man. I know that. If you have enough talent, though, it can make up for everything else. All these people that hate him, if he comes out with one banger, everybody will forget about him because he has talent. The guy stinks, I assume, with what he said about Pittsburgh. No talent having son of a bitch.

He's a mixologist, I believe, as well, and people say he's not even good at making drinks. Dude, John Taffer would judge you on that, pal. Listen, I know about the PMS system, too. Is that what it's called? POS. There it is. Piece of shit system if it's Tom. Yep.

Point of sale if it's anybody else. Also, this guy talks shit about a friend of mine's mom, I guess. Who? The Chrisleys? Dude from WWE that works there a long time. No. Nobody's talking bad about the Chrisleys right now. They're doing a hard time.

I wasn't sure. They're doing a hard time. Plenty of people are talking bad about the Chrisleys, but yeah, you can continue. Are they still in there? I think so, for a long time. Yeah. 12 years, I think. A long time.

Yeah. Listen, we don't love it. Yeah. Okay, but you can't be doing what you was doing so loudly. Yeah, exactly. Can't be having your ass out in the street, Jerry Jones said. He was making, let's make a show about what we're fucking. That's a bad idea.

When Mahomes retires, she'll be out. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I'm here in front of mine. Push this man on television. Whoa. That's what I just learned from Zito. Guy works at WWE.

We know his sister's in that show. Remember? I guess in one ofito. Guy works at WWE. We know his sister's in that show. Remember? I guess in one of the episodes. Take sisters on. No. Not on our channel. Oh. I was going to say, what the hell?

Very talented documentary guy. He's awesome. Super cool looking motherfucker. Yeah. Remember he came into Last Office. Rockstar. Yes. Drains of three in leather and boots.

Yep. Long hair. Dog. Dog. Dog. His sister is in the show. I did know that. Really? I guess he was a part of this whole thing.

He got into it with this guy. I hate this guy. Buries Pittsburgh, pushes my guy. Fuck this guy. That dude's a big son of a bitch, too. You were trying to be on his side? What is your problem? I thought it was all about the Pittsburgh thing.

I didn't know. No. I didn't know. I didn't know I was all of that. With the West Virginia football shirt on, I mean, everything's showing up wrong with West Virginia football right now. No, West Virginia basketball is currently going through it. West Virginia football is good. They just

announced award winners, okay, from their workout this spring going into summer. Put your fives up. Sweet. Put your fives up. There's like champions. No, no, that was the hashtag. Put your fives up. For the thing?

Yeah. Fifth quarter. Fifth quarter gang, I believe. Bottom right. And these guys are fucking leading the team out on the fifth quarter. I didn't even get down to the bottom right. I just. That's why.

Yeah, put your fives up. Bottom middle is about to have. How do we land on Chambers Elite Climbers? Sponsored? Huh? Gotta be a sponsor. Out of everything we could have said up under. Is Chamber the strength coach? It's Chambers. Like Harry Potter Chambers. Sponsored? Huh? Gotta be a sponsor. Is Chamber the strength coach? It's Chambers.

Harry Potter Chambers? Could it be like how they name the head coach is sponsored? Do we know any of these guys? Hopefully we will at some point. But like, you know, Gigi, the guy I've been talking about, is he Chambers elite? I don't think so. Always strong. I thought Gigi was transferring. You know, some of these workout awards you get, is Garrett great honor?

No, no. I couldn't find the fifth quarter part. I didn't know they publicized the workout honors. Does every school do this? So I think we have started doing it over the last couple years, but people do this. And then whenever you see their star players are getting their weight room awards as well, I think it makes me feel good.

I'm like, oh, that guy's probably a guy. So I'm thinking all these guys are guys I just never heard of. Ollie Straw. We know Ollie Straw. He's a player. Kyle Tyler had like 17 sacks last year, I think. I think he works at the public golf course. He just walked on.

I think. I'm not sure. He's back because fucking Austin Brinkman is coming for QB1. I just want to let everybody know, okay, Happy Valley, week one, fifth quarter, it's on. It's on. Can you imagine if this thing goes to overtime? No, I actually can't.

I can't even imagine it going into overtime, actually. What do you think the score is? I don't know because is it Ollie Straw or is it Austin Brinkman who's playing middle linebacker for you guys this year? Ollie Straw. I'm not sure. I just don't think they'll be able to hang with. You see fucking Leighton Bitchdell.

I like that guy. Yeah. That's one dog. CJ looked like he would hit something. Yeah, hell yeah, CJ will lay the wood. Look at CJ Cole. Look at that neck. Let's go, CJ. Austin Brinkman does look like he can just something. Yeah, hell yeah, CJ will lay the wood. Look at CJ Cole. Look at that neck. Let's go, CJ.

Austin Brinkman does look like he can just bite someone's ear off. I'm a little bit. What's your problem? That's the biggest compliment I've made today. He's happy. He won the award. A little word about Michael. What's that?

Who, Michael Hayes? Michael Hayes? Oh, word. He's a scrappy son of a bitch. If I was looking at this guy before the game, this is one of the faces that I would circle. Why? This is when he's trying to start a fight.

Why would you circle him? He looked like one of the guys. Looks like the line is around 19 and a half. This one right here. Put your money on West Virginia then, Pat. 19 point dollars. 19 and a half. I'm going money line.

What are you talking about? I'm going alternate spread 39. Are you kidding me? 19 and a half. Bro, I'm going Moneyline. What are you talking about? I'm going alternate spread 39. Are you kidding me? West Virginia? No. Penn State. What? What, bro?

Minus 200 probably. They're already going to set the tone. Penn State's going to set the tone. Everywhere's 19. At DraftKings, you get 20. Chambers, elite climbers. We're talking C-E-C. Oi.

What? Oi. C-E-C. That's what these boys are cec boys are fighting in the weight room the chambers elite climbers they put them on that climbing machine these dudes elite we're talking like people are able to get up there all the way up the mountain boom all the way up and then guess what they're coming back down grabbing some friends they're going back up there that's right they're like those people that live in those towns the sherpas the sherpas in nepal that is what a chambers elite climber is willing to go to the mountaintop that you have to train your entire life for and while we're up there put a motherfucker on my back i'll climb back let's go some more that's a chambers elite

climber yeah neil bryan has to unplug the machine to get these guys stop climbing joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who uh i don't know how he is at climbing, but I will say he ascended his profession quickly. Now, we would have assumed that this man has been the go-to source for NBA inside information for a lot longer, I think, than as we started doing research. 2010, I believe he started at Yahoo

or was working at Yahoo. 2017, he joins ESPN and then all of a sudden we learn quickly of this thing called a Woj bomb. Holy shit. This Polish guy has some inside information that nobody else has in the NBA. You know, blossoming into an absolute icon that goes alongside the league that is the NBA. Ladies and gentlemen, Adrian Wojnarowski.

Yeah, Woj! Oh, man. Thank you, Pat. Good to be with you guys. Good to be with you guys, Yeah, Woj! Thank you, Pat. Good to be with you guys. Good to be with you guys finally. Woj. Woj. Woj.

That's all I knew you guys for a long time. Woj bomb. Woj bomb. Woj bomb. And then all of a sudden I've heard, you know, I've heard a couple people say it, but I don't pay attention close. Woj bomb. And then all of a sudden I've heard, you know, I've heard a couple of people say it, but I don't pay attention close. Woj, Wojnarowski. Is that right?

That's it. Yeah. Nailed it. Wojnarowski. Oh no. Wojnarowski. I always knew my name was coming in homeroom when it'd be like, you know, Vernon Wilson. And then there'd be a long pause with the teacher and you knew your name was coming in homeroom when it'd be like you know vernon wilson and then there'd be a

long pause with the teacher and you knew your name was next so what they were trying to as they were trying to navigate it i know that happened so i would like to not be that person what is proper a pronunciation wargenowski wargenowski wargenowski we're talking to adrian wargenowski of uh espn i feel very I feel very good saying it. Let's dive into it. So you just announced a trade just took place between the Nuggets and the Pacers. Now, it's not any high-profile draft pick, so it's not going to garner that many headlines, but we are in the NBA draft season.

Do you expect a lot of movement? Is this normal for the NBA draft? And what do the next 24 hours look like for you? I think there's going to be a lot of movement, Pat, not just picks. This was a pick for Denver, picking up number 29 and 32 in Thursday night's draft. This is a Denver team that they got another first-round pick from Oklahoma City during the finals. What they're trying to do is maximize this championship window

with Nikola Jokic and this really high payroll. Can they just get some young players in there that are going to be fairly inexpensive, build out their bench, and try to win as many championships as they can with trying to navigate this new salary cap that's coming, new collective bargaining agreement. So the Nuggets have been aggressive in this last week or two, trying to put themselves in position. They're probably going to lose or very likely to lose Bruce Brown in free agency.

He declined his team option today. Michael Malone told me he wasn't going anywhere. Michael Malone told me after a't going anywhere. Michael Malone told me after a fireball with DeAndre. A fireball hug. Malone is going to be aggressive in trying to pull at the heartstrings

with Bruce Brown. Stay a part of this thing. Let's do it again. Bruce Brown is in position to make a lot more money as a free agent than the Nuggets are allowed to offer him, and that's going to be the challenge. He could stay in Denver, but he would have to do it for a lot, lot less than is going to be available out there in the market. And he is a dad, so you've got to think about the next generation and everything.

AJ, your question for Ward and Husky. Woj, what about the Miami Heat? What do you think they're going to do, I guess, to try to build around Jimmy Butler and everything else they have? Do you think they're going to do, I guess, to try to build around Jimmy Butler and everything else they have? Do you think they can sustain the success that they're having and they have this year and they can continue to do this and make deep runs in the playoffs? It's remarkable what they've done,

how consistent this organization has been, despite not having lots of high draft picks. They're always a free agent destination. They're always creative with signing trades, how they landed Jimmy Butler or Kyle Lowry. But listen, they're always big game hunting in Miami. Pat Riley is always looking for the next big star. They're not afraid to trade their future draft picks because they have shown they can go out without picks or with second round picks and find rotation players, starting-level players. It's remarkable.

And certainly, I think Miami, they're going to be very anxious to watch what happens in Portland to see if there's any point this summer where Damian Lillard becomes available. He's not available now. He says he wants to be in Portland, and the Blazers have shut down anybody who's called about the possibility of trying to trade for him. But certainly, Pat Riley is always going to be real aggressive in trying to improve his team. Listen, they want to make that last step.

I'm sure they're going to continue to be real active this summer. Connor, your question for Woj. Yeah, Woj, also with the heat, we're kind of hearing right now that the Trailblazers, instead of talking about Lillard, are reaching out about Bam. Is there a possibility that depending on that second pick that the Trailblazers might have a few more options and they might go after Bam and then in the Eastern Conference,

are the Celtics going to move Jalen Brown? Is something happening with that? What do you expect to see on tomorrow night with the Eastern Conference. Are the Celtics going to move Jalen Brown? Is something happening with that? What do you expect to see on tomorrow night with the Eastern Conference? I'd be a little dubious about the idea of Miami wanting to engage with Portland about Bam Adebayo. Listen, potentially they would want to dislodge Damian Lillard from Portland. And sending him an all-star level center from Miami means not only are you losing Damian Lillard, or excuse me, are you losing Adebayo, you're probably taking yourself out of position

to eventually be the team who could trade for Damian Lillard. So I don't really imagine that as a scenario that really makes much, if any sense for Miami. And listen, Jalen Brown in Boston, that super max contract that he's eligible for almost $300 million, that's going to certainly be the decision for that organization. I would be surprised if they aren't willing to fully invest in Jalen Brown, elite two-way player in the league. I think what's important for teams is you want to keep these guys under contract. You want to keep great players under contract because then at least you have the ability to trade them down the road. You don't want to

lose players like that in free agency, and I don't think you want to sell short. But listen, the new labor agreement, the new collective bargaining agreement that has created what's called the second apron is going to make teams have to make really difficult decisions on payroll who they can keep who they can't keep but if you're boston i still think jason tatum jalen brown you figure out all the rest of the roster around those two players because those kind of guys are just too hard too hard to acquire and generally you better keep them yeah you might as well unless jimmy butler's gonna come into boston again you know exactly and that's the whole entire thing and it to acquire and generally you better keep them yeah you might as well unless jimmy baller's going to come into boston again you know exactly and that's the whole entire thing and it sounds like from the people we've talked to and obviously you've talked to a lot more people in this world

this new cba is going to make teams uh kind of have some troubles paying them like number three and number four on the team because there's like a tax obviously the top two you're going to pay you're going to be able to pay but then there's a tax that comes with keeping guys on your team. And I think that's for parity reasons is what they're saying. It's 100 percent for parity reasons. And what it is, you can keep paying the tax, but you lose the ability to use your mid-level exception or to sign buyout players. If you're in that second apron, that higher spending area, you can lose first-round picks. And so there's so many penalties for staying in that high spending area.

What the league has wanted to do is spread the talent around the NBA, spread it to smaller markets. I think over time that's what you will see this new salary cap do. That's what the NBA's wanted, and they're getting there with it now with these new rules. Yeah, we need Monix and Flint. Yeah, that's what we need.

We need to keep this thing going. We need to win the Mega Bowl. Last question for you here, Woj, from Pac-Man Jones. Woj, how you doing, man? Pac-Man. My bad. How you doing? Good.

Pac's good too, right? Yeah, I'm real good. Yeah, hey, we're good. Zion Williams, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Loka, LeBron James. How big is Victor compared to those guys with being the number one pick as far as coming into the league, trying to be the next LeBron James or Loka, I meant to say, or whoever. Yeah, I mean, listen, those are all immortal players.

Well, certainly immortal talents, guys who came in the league, Zion Williamson. I don't think he's accomplished quite as much as the rest of the group you mentioned. But Victor Wimbanyama has a chance to be as good as anybody who's ever played this game. He has a chance to be as good as anybody who's ever played this game. He has a chance to be as dominant. I think the only real comparison to him in terms of an ability to come into the league and dominate right away, which LeBron James largely did, it's just LeBron James and Victor. And at 7'5", he plays the game with guard skills. There's never quite been anyone like him. And so that's the reason, you know, Mike Schmitz,

who used to be our draft analyst at ESPN, he's now in Portland trying to figure out what they're going to do with that third pick. He started telling me about Wemba Nyama when he was 14 years old, when he was scouting him over there at 14, 15, saying there is a player coming unlike anything we have ever seen and and he is here now yeah hell yeah he is and as are you we can't thank you enough good luck the next 24 hours as i assume your phone is going to be alive thank you for your time adrian warginowski ladies

then ask him about zion which part like what about zion bingo that that's that would have been a question like what should we be focusing on here about zion like is he in shape is he getting traded is he back in the pelicans you know earlier we talked to jay billis and he was like you know some of these guys are bully balls like if shack was to come into the nba right now they would make an offense around him you know and they would kind of go. And you see how the Nuggets kind of operate through Joker. It's like Zion's a triple-double machine wherever he's on there. Have they ever thought about, like, presenting a case to him where it's like,

hey, if you figure out how to, like, be an adult, like, maybe we'll, like, you know, build a team around you. He's so good. Because he's so good at basketball. Yeah. What does he know that maybe Shams doesn't about why Zion can't get his ass on the fucking court? What is the problem with this guy? And it's not like it's just Zion.

Brandon Ingram and CJ McCollum are unbelievable too. So if they actually if Zion were to just go all in and play 80 games, even 70 games, they would be one of the top teams in the West. So we're thinking this is potentially on Zion's side here. Yeah, exactly.

Well, you know, we didn't know. Asking Zion to play 80 games is like telling someone who's never swam before, like, hey, if you just start swimming, you could win a gold medal. You could be Michael Phelps. It's basically the same thing. Like, this guy's going to play 25 to 30 games. He's going to be out. When he's out, he's going to put on a bunch of weight,

and then it's going to take, you know know 10x the amount of time on the other side to come back and and get back in you're a hater dude i'm not i want to watch him play but at the same point it's like how many fucking chances are we going to give this guy they've already paid him 180 million dollars or whatever and they just let him do whatever the fuck he wants he's just running around roughshod new orleans doing whatever the hell he wants well not just they don't care he's also, I believe he's operating on the internets as well. Atlanta. Well, now it's been blocked. You're going to have to find a new app.

But the whole. True social season. The two sides. The Pelicans and the Zion side. Yeah. It's been fascinating kind of watching it unfold. Because remember, we thought he was almost healthy. He was putting videos

out of him fucking windmill dunking from the foul line putting an indent into the wood. Yes. I mean, he was like explosive. He's back.

This is Instagram Zion and all of a sudden the Pelicans, the word we're getting from Shams is like, they still want to kind of take this thing slow and steady.

It's like, put him on the fucking court. We don't know how much we're going to have of him and then as we continue to learn more and more, it's like, Simon, come on. You're getting some shape. Let's roll him out there.

He's holding him hostage. Will you take it easy with the way you're speaking? No, I mean, let's roll him out there. Put him on the court. No matter what shape he's in, let's see what he does. He's drinking Starry. Yeah, which isn't helping. It's zero.

Yeah. Zero, pal. No Starry, zero. When you drink 30 of them in a day, then it starts to be a problem. I would like to let everybody know, because Zion was in that commercial amongst others, I did attempt this story,

which is the Pepsi version of Sprite. I gave it a little Sipski and a tiny can, a mini can. Oh, nice. Those are great. Yeah, they are great, especially whenever it's like a little flight, a little sample of something. Sure.

I didn't hate it. It was better than I thought it would be. But I haven't had a Sierra Mist in years because over a decade ago, I said, I'm never putting that shit in my mouth because I'll just go with Sprite or something. I'll go Mountain Dew if I have to. I'll go Mountain Dew if it's Pepsi. So I haven't even attempted.

So I don't know if they just repackaged Sierra Mist and put Starry on it or not. But it wasn't as terrible as I thought it was going to be. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, Sierra Mist was fine. Sierra Mist is okay. It's not as good as Sprite, but it's fine. Bingo. Well, so I would never – that was a decision I had to make, though.

Is it close enough to Sprite to not choose Mountain Dew? It never was. No way. You know what I mean? It never was. So, like, I'm either getting tea. I'm getting some form of, like, I'm either getting tea, I'm getting some form of, like, Arnold Palmer, like a mix,

or I'm getting a Sprite if available. Now, if they don't have Sprite available, so that means I'm in the mood for something carbonated. Sure. And they only have Pepsi of products. I'm going Mountain Dew every time. I'm not picking Sierra Miss. And that's the only time I've been around Sierra Miss for probably two decades now at this point.

Thus, Starry was born because everyone was like, Sierra Miss sucks. They had to actually just change the entire name and look. Did they change the recipe, though? I don't think so. Would you know anything? I bet they tweaked it a little bit. They probably can't legally put the exact same product out with a different name. I bet they'd change one.

Starry was pretty good. Okay, let's say you walk into a convenience store. Your taste buds change every five years. I bet they'd change one. Starry is pretty good. Let's say you walk into a convenience store. Your taste buds change every five years. Absolutely. The biggest change between Sierra Mist and Starry is what makes them sweet. Sierra Mist's ingredients include sugar, while Starry is replaced with high fructose corn. Oh, wow. So it's worse for you? Yeah, let's put the

worst shit in here. Zion's drinking this? Yeah. Oh, no. I need more. Know how Huggy blew a.25? Cans all over his bathroom allegedly. To your point. Yeah. Zion's blowing a.25 of fructose corn syrup. Well, hey, that's progress.

You'd rather have him drinking that than just two liters of pancake batter, which it seemed like he was doing. True. Great point. Congrats. So he. Congrats, though. He's having a kid. He's a father now. Yes, he is.

Congratulations. That'll change things. Hopefully. Someone let him know you can't put Starry in the baby bottle. You got to buy formula. Yeah. I had no idea where you were going with that. Pancake batter was not a...

Oh, that was really... Because then I immediately, in my head, I saw him. Oh, yeah. In a big bucket. Zion, we're pulling for you, pal, but it seems like you're sucking it out. You're letting us down. Get your shit figured out.

Same conversation for three years. Could you imagine drinking that thing, though? So thick. Oh, yeah. that thing, though? So thick. You could, though. You could get it down. So the thought of Zion, in my head, I saw him actually attempting to drink that thing. Like a pancake batter mustache.

It looks great. Delicious. Delicious. Got raw eggs in there, too. Choco chips in there. Yeah, you're right. Protein's in there. You forget about that.

That's why whenever I have my Ritz crackers with peanut butter on them, I say, there's a little protein in there. Yeah, you're right. Protein's in there. You forget about that. That's why whenever I have my Ritz crackers with peanut butter on them, I say, there's a little protein in there. You got to work out, though, when you eat protein. Well, that's the thing. Zion seemingly doesn't have the right people around him saying, hey, let's fucking move a little bit. We can transform everything here. Now, he's already got a couple hundred million.

Which is the problem. Let's go to the phones. I mean, if you're him, this is like being raised as like an oil child. You know, they're like, this guy needs to work hard and be a better person. It's like, he has a couple hundred million dollars no matter what type of shit bag he is for the rest of his life. Some people take advantage of that situation. Yeah.

Some people try to prove that they earned that and deserve that. Try to make their own path. But some people do not. Some people do not. They just say, fuck say fuck everybody who cares i'm getting a couple hundred like megan markle and prince harry exactly sure they got a couple hundred million no matter what allegedly until you say i'm getting out of the royal family yeah i don't want your generational wealth being passed on me for no reason i don't want 60 cents for every canadian taxpayer in my family in my trust in my bank i don't want that at all we Canadian taxpayer in my family, in my trust, in my bank.

I don't want that at all. We want to separate this because this is a bad thing. And we're all like, welcome to the family. We don't understand why it works either. And then all of a sudden, they're still getting paid a lot of money because they were once in the royal family, which seemingly is a big part of the royal family. It's like a lot of money surrounds them. 20 million bucks, Spotify was giving Meghan Markle and Prince Harry to do a podcast.

Yeah, just ask a couple questions. They couldn't even do that. No, Meghan Markle had her assistants do it. She said, well, keep it down. We'd like to be able to dub my questions in over top of yours. I can't make it to the interview. Funny thing about that interview is it's happening when I got something else going on.

Well, what do you got going on? Well, I got the Beatrice. I remember I'm a fucking princess. I'm at the pool. Used to be a princess. Exactly. It's unbelievable the racket that the royal family has got. Ridiculous.

I know the queen, obviously, held a very high standard for a lot of England, and a lot of things happened, and there was a lot of decisions made, certainly, throughout the royal family's history and everything. And at one point, I think there was a lot of kings and a lot of queens and everything, but the rest of the world just kind of evolved. Not over there. No. Whenever this new king, whenever God saved the queen, man,

was kind of tossed out and God saved the king became a thing, I watched that coronation because I was in the hospital with a baby. So that thing was happening like 5 a.m., 6 a.m. over there time. It was very early. We were up. It was the only thing on TV. It was on a bunch of channels.

Holy shit. People still care. Crazy. People still, Americans were still caring. Royals got the juice. Yeah, the weddings. Remember the weddings? I think it was 2017, 2018.

That was. People were going nuts for that waking up at 5 to watch. Huge. But after everything that has happened in the world over the last five years where a lot of enlightenment seemingly and information and everything that's taken place, I did not expect the King Corridation to be as big as it is. It is. So I assume Harry and Meghan,

they feel very comfortable saying, we don't have to do fucking anything. Who cares? There's a pay for whatever. They're fucking rock stars, AJ. You know, these royal, this is a real deal. People really care.

They're separate. I mean, when you talk about the royal family, it's hard to put Harry and Meghan in that. They absolutely wanted out and said, we're out of here. And now they came over here and they're just 100% beloved by everybody. South Park episode.

Oh, my. Gold. Oh, my. Have you seen that? I have not. Ooh. Which one? How recent is it?

Last year, I think. Yeah. Last season. Well, he wrote a book. I know his book. He has all kinds of crazy stuff in there, man. Who, Harry? Oh, yeah.

He said he killed like 20 some people or something. Confirmed all, Harry? Oh, yeah. He said he killed like 20-some people or something. Confirmed all this stuff. Oh, yeah. He said that. Yeah. In Afghanistan. Yeah, in the helicopter. Yeah, when he was in the Royal Navy or whatever.

That red-headed dude killed how many? What happened? Yep, 20-some. He says he did. 20 scouts. Where's the video? I think. Where's the video?

I don't know. I think it was a helicopter pilot, so it's pretty easy to just take some people out. Yeah, for sure. Really easy. Yeah, there's the South Park depiction of what's. I think it was a helicopter pilot, so it's pretty easy to just take some people out. Yeah, for sure. Really easy. Yeah, there's the South Park depiction of what's going on with the Royals since they've moved over. Oh, yeah, I saw that clip like this. Yeah, knocking on the neighbor's door. We want our privacy!

Going in the building. We want our privacy! Literally for 25 minutes, pretty much. Just them screaming, we want our privacy. Leave us alone in different places. And as dumb Americans, that's how I view it as well. But if they're offered $20 million to do 12 podcasts, that's going to be tough to say no to anybody. Yeah, exactly.

Not knocking them for that whatsoever, but the entire concept of kind of wanting to diss at themselves and then just doing Oprah and podcasts and books about it. You can see why South Park went this way. Yeah, you're cashing in on the thing. Exactly, yeah, that you just announced. Right. Anyways, that king was wearing this one costume during that whole thing that I thought might have been out of the 1200s, and it might have been.

Probably. It probably was. Remember those sausages? Oh, the fingers. They attached to his hands, yeah. Crazy. Oh, his fingies? Yeah, big sausage fingies?

Yeah. What are those things? Is it his brother who doesn't sweat who was getting in trouble a little bit? Maybe not. He's not in trouble. He's been questioned in all different kinds of stuff. Yeah, yeah.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Doesn't sweat. Is that his brother? Who was that? He's talking about the islands, the royal. He got out of there too, though. He left too because he wanted to be with is it camilla whoever he left his wife for this other one was that depicted in

the crown because i did see a couple people kind of defunct in the crown yeah of the family members the late season right is that what silo is based off of you think uh the crown people leaving the royal family actually funny enough silo has taken a couple huge turns. It could be something along those lines. Oh. Look at those things. The king's got fat fingers. Wait, is something going on? No, no, no.

I just seen a guy that was doing arm wrestling and had his mask on. That pinky ring is not coming off. He's never actually used his hands. Sodium overload. Look at the pinky ring, though, bro. Gosh. Just absolute dog. What do you mean?

His finger's going to fall off. How are you going to... Fall off? What are you talking about? What do you mean? It's like a tourniquet. What are you talking about? Grow back.

This is how big they've been since he was 16. Yeah. This guy's been hammered with tiny beers. We have any other pictures of him? We have any other pictures? There's one of him doing a thumb war, and he almost broke the other guy's hand. Yeah, and he didn't even do the finger thing. Nope.

Well, he couldn't actually, because that finger doesn't bend. Right. With how swollen it appears to be. But he just put that big old thumb straight down. And just flattened everything in front of it. Crushed everything. You did the finger trick every time, didn't you? Oh, yeah.

I still do that with my kids. Yeah, wrap it around the top. It's hard not to do it. Did you cheat? Yeah, but like my natural instinct was just to do it. Well, and doesn't AJ's front finger just go straight up anyways? This guy's fingers have always been overblown. You know what I mean?

They've just kind of been bloated. Yep. People say whenever you eat carbs, sometimes it goes to your hips. Sometimes it goes to your ass. For the current king of England, it goes right to his fingers. That's right. Okay, so that's all the pasta and everything else he's eaten over there. What is English food?

Fingers and mash. Crumpets. Fish and chips. Still got a king. There's going to be another one you got to watch, too, because when he dies, his son takes over. That's that other one that was there. Prince Bill.

Harry's brother. Actually, the guy. He had a pretty big role in the whole coronation thing. Because he's the next one, so he's walking right behind him yeah hey they're carrying weird sticks in like different swords yeah of course i guess it's a staff crazy they're very in the costumes they were wearing was pretty weird well and you saw all the medals on the king he also like henry killed like 160 people jeez i don't know if that one's... A sniper. What war?

What battle? One of them. Just a battle or two? A battle. He happened upon a battle, and he just said, ooh, I'm a sniper. I think he helped liberate Kuwait, yeah. Let's go to the phones.

I mean, he might have, but not in that fashion. You know, the royals were a part of a lot of countries. You know? Of course. I don't of a lot of countries, you know. Of course. I don't want to bring it up because we're not an English show. The sun never set on them. But I like that Bill Simmons, a sports guy, basically said, these Royals are lazy as fuck, bro.

This is what they got offered. This is what they did in return. You want to talk about screwing a company over, this is going to happen. Sports guy went out there and said that. And then there was Bill Simmons, Spotify executive. I didn't even think about that. I guess he is because he runs their sports department, I think. So he's executive at Spotify.

Him being the one who said it, I was pumped. It was like, all right, Sports Guy came out and said, enough with the fucking shit. Yeah, he's grifters. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Jared in New York on the 500 phone line. What's going on, Jared? How's it going, boys?

How's it going? Keep moving? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Jared. Yeah's it going, boys? How's it going, keep moving? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Jared. Yeah, fuck that up. Anyway, boys, listen. So I'm a Panthers fan. Yeah, fuck that up. I'm trying my best not to be toxic here, right? Everyone's talking about how small Bryce Young is, all that stuff, but everyone's

saying I've got a good coaching staff. My problem is, if we really look back, Frank Wright, where's his success? You could argue that was Doug Peterson in that year they went to the Super Bowl. You got Andy Dalton, never won a playoff game, hate to hate. And then, you know, also you have really no senior leadership in that quarterback room. So what is there to be looking forward to down there? What about D.C. EJ, right?

Yeah. Josh McCown. Josh McCown doesn't count? Deuce Staley? 20. Oh, my God. You just got a franchise quarterback. Right.

Negative. They're spending money, you know? Yeah. Brought in Thielen. Thielen is on the team. Yeah, Hayden Hurst. Thielen looks good, too. Yeah, he does.

Got a point to prove. We'll see him on a tall hill. I bet he's smashing the golf ball right now. There's a golf simulator in the Carolina Panthers' locker room. Pretty sick. Let's go to Joel down in North Carolina. Joel, what's going on down there? That was unbelievable.

How we doing? Keep it moving? Nailed it. So I just wanted to call in with Pac. I've got a question for AJ at the end since it is the summer solstice. But question for you and Pac, man. What do you guys know about Ben McCollum, and why is Ren Baker not hiring him

to be the next West Virginia men's basketball coach since we are in mid-June and there aren't any standout candidates? Yeah, that's who I'm thinking. You were saying that before the show. Yeah, hire McCollum. Parker McCollum. The way he runs the triangle

offense in a college basketball scene, he's just something that none of us really have seen before. And when you move on from somebody like Huggs, you've got to get somebody that is innovative and a trailblazer. And Parker McCollum is just that. I bet your run's got his eyes on him. Yeah, I'm quite sure he's got his eyes on him.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking he does. Yeah, Parker knows how to run the triangle offense. His name? Yeah, McCollum. I thought you were talking about Ren Baker, who is the current athletic director,

who is going to get this right. Yeah, he's going to get it right. He's out of Stephen F. Austin. You heard about Stephen F. Austin? I did. I heard their, I think it was their bowling coach was porking one of the players, or the assistant bowling coach.

Assistant. Yeah, so that was a story that has come out of Stone Cold Stephen F. Austin. Why? Don't be confused about Stone Cold Steve Austin. Why? Stephen F. Austin's bowling team's coach was allegedly having sex with a student athlete,

got fired for it, his wife found out, not good. His wife's the head coach, yeah. Yes. He's an assistant coach, and she just recently let him be an assistant coach. She wouldn't let him coach because he was taking care of the family. Hope his comments.

But while he was taking care of the family. All of his comments. But while he was taking care of the family, he would also be a volunteer coach, do all the practices, all the dirty work, and then his wife would just step into the spot. He's not doing anything illegal. A little resentment. He's pissed.

It sounds like this was a broken relationship. Sounds like this one's not going that great. Unappreciated. Let's read some of these comments being said about a son called Stephen F. Austin. College bowling assistant gets fired for affair with player on team his wife coaches. She married a real gutter bolster.

Jenna Levicelli-Paisana, an assistant women's bowling coach at Stephen F. Austin State University, whose wife is that coach. I missed that that line, chose to resign after the school discovered he had an affair with a member of the team. You did. Steve Lemke, 38 years old, who's married to head coach Amber Lemke. Ooh, they're going to be changing their names. Uh-oh. He resigned from the program on April 10th and said in a statement obtained by the Daily Sentinel

that although I knew it was kind of a no-no, there's not a rule saying it can't happen, though. The outlet said it chose not to identify the student-athlete who was a member of the Lady Jacks bowling team. So he's 38 years old. She's anywhere in between 18 and 22-ish on the bowling team. And Amber Lemke is really a hard-ass coach that they kind of rallied around and said, fuck this lady.

And we don't love it, but when bowling juices get flowing, every once in a while some working gets going. Yeah, that's right. And that is the thing about bowling, AJ. I think they can work this out. I don't think – I think this is something that they can work through. There's more quotes, too, where he said – I don't know. I don't know if he was trying to justify it or he was trying to –

No, he wasn't. It was amazing. Like, the guy is. This guy is a treat. There's nothing in stone, okay? I guess it's just an ethics code. Like, we frown upon it, but there's no rule. There's no law broken here. Steven and Amber have since filed for divorce, according to court records.

Stephen F. Austin Athletic Director Ryan Ivey said, although Lemke and the student-athletes are two consenting adults, they violated the university's relationship rules and also the head coach's rule, which is don't fuck my husband. But what did she bowl? Can we find out what the student athlete bowled? She was averaging 185. Pretty good.

They got better. The team got better when the assistant, this guy, came and started taking over more. Well, they started getting more reps because he was doing all the extra hours. He was playing all these seeds on this bowling alley, and he was reading the oil patterns, and then one day, all of of a sudden things start popping off

With two holes, not all three of them being used It is a very sexual sport But I believe Stephen F. Austin was always on TV About the championships Funny you mention that Because we always have CBS Sports Network on the lower left And they love to showcase the female NCAA bowling championships Stephen F. Austin's got a program

Yeah, the Lady Jacks don't fuck around whenever it comes to balls and pins. No, they don't. Neither does that guy. Used to. I don't know if he's going to get hired again. I doubt it. Are they both fired or are they keeping the head coach? Do you want that assistant coach on your operation? He turned on his own wife. He might become the

head coach now and they fire his wife because the team got better when he wore a ball. Yeah, exactly. Oh no, what if this is like a revolt and they say fuck it we'll fuck each other and then that'll be the reason that we kind of make this whole thing happen.

We don't have still a lot of questions but it turns out that the bowling community is going through their own little scandal right now and we're pulling for all parties to be happy. It's like the Koresh

of Stephen F. Austin. Hey, if you have sex with me you'll bowl a perfect game. Whoa. Would you do that? Would you fuck this guy? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But you would? I me, you'll bowl a perfect game. Whoa. Would you do that? Would you fuck this guy? Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

But you would? I don't know, bowl 300? But yeah, if I'm going up against Pete Weber, bowling a 300 and beating him. Would you tug on it a little bit? You're thinking about it. I'll tell you what, there are some times where you're at a bowling alley, and you think to yourself, this feels like a sport I'd like to be really good at. But then you roll like a 150, 160, you're like, I'm pretty good.

All right. That was fun. That was a good time. I'm going to come back later. But you get in there with some guys that are really players. I've been to a couple of events where guys have their whole fucking kit and caboodle. Wrist guard. Their own ball and everything.

And it's like, damn, this is down to a science. They are doing this for real. But they are having nowhere near as much fun as everybody else that is just throwing that thing as hard as they possibly can. And every once in a while, I'll go a couple triangles over and I'll go ahead and check the watch. And I'll get a little spin. I'll hit the pocket. Boom. We can throw up the X's. We're happy.

Bowling's a great pastime. Not whenever your husband is fucking one of your players, though. No, definitely not. All right, we have some breaking news out of the NBA world. A Shams bomb, if you will. Sources, the Wizards, Celtics, and Clippers are in strong talks on a trade that would send Kristaps Porzingis to Boston,

Marcus Morris in draft compensation to Washington, and Malcolm Brogdon to Los Angeles, the Clippers. Sides are still working through details in Porzingis' $36 million player option. Brad Stevens is up there making plays. Kristaps Porzingis, he was supposed to be the guy. Remember? Real tall. Real athletic. Been through a couple different teams and situations. And now, he's the missing piece

for the Boston Celtics. Funny enough, he's not. This is an absolutely abysmal idea. Malcolm Brodden just had his best season. Brad Stevens doesn't know what he's doing. Well, maybe he doesn't. He just won the sixth man of the year. And guess what? Two years ago we went to the finals.

This year we went to the Eastern Conference finals. So did we get worse? Some people would say we did. And Christos Porzingis is one of those guys who, hey, if he sprains his ankle, sure, he might be out for two weeks, but might be out for two months. And that is exactly what we didn't need. Actually, one of the positions that we have guys at is that center position. But, you know, who cares about Malcolm Brodden who, again, like I said, won the sixth man of the positions that we have guys at is that center position. But, you know, who cares about Malcolm Brogdon, who, again, like I said, won the Sixth Man of the Year award.

One of the better portions of our team while our team was struggling. You know they're breaking up the team anyways. I didn't think Brogdon was going to be part of that. I thought that was more of a Marky Smart, maybe Robert Williams side of a breakup. I did not expect it to be Brogdon. So that absolutely sucks. Bad news out of Boston. That's a gut punch.

Bad news out of Boston. A's a gut punch. Bad news out of Boston, AJ, in Connor's eyes, and he's the only person from Boston that we are hearing from at this exact moment. So we will act as if he represents the entire city and fan base of the Celtics. Yeah, the only maybe saving grace is that Brogdon, if you remember at the end of the year, he tore something in his elbow. So perhaps there is something worse in that sense, and maybe that's why they're doing this. Oh, so you're hoping.

I'm not hoping for anything. Kind of, though. I'm hoping that we win this trade, absolutely. And I'm hoping they know more than me about the health of Malkton, Brogdon, and Porzingis. And we hope the sixth man of the year is healthy and back on that court as soon as possible. Exactly. Being so good in the Western Conference. Let's go to Kane in Alabama.

The devil's joining us. What's going on, pal? What's going on, boys? How we doing? Keep it moving. You know, I've heard my fair share of would you suck a dick hypotheticals, but I think that might be the first would you suck a dick to bowl a perfect 300, so I appreciate that.

Kane, it was not that. It was actual sex, I believe. Anyways, Kane, it was not It was not It was actual sex, I believe Anyways, Kane, let's move along We're past that and none of us are going to roll a 300 I do fear Anyway, I apologize I was going to hit you guys with an off-season hypothetical

Long road trip You stop at a gas station You got to get a drink, you got to get a snack What are you grabbing? Okay, well, where am I headed? Where am I coming from? Long road trip. Cross country. Where am I going to? Where am I

coming from? You're driving to New Mexico from Indianapolis. For what? What am I going there for? Sightseeing trip. Cooked mess. I mean, you're the hypothetical fucking guy here, Kane. Add on to it. Figure it out. You're driving down the street? Okay.

Am I in the middle of a fat time of year? You're on your way to WrestleMania. In the RV, you got to stop at a gas station. You got to get a drink. You got to get a snack. What are you grabbing? Okay. Am I wrestling at WrestleMania?

No. You're not worried about your physique. Thank you. Great hypothetical, Cain. Asshole. Had to get there. Jeez. Is that the Cain? I just want to ask. We don't know. I don't know. Great hypothetical. Cane, asshole. Had to get there. Jeez. Is that the cane?

I just want to ask, but we don't know. I don't know. Great name. If it is, good hypothetical. So I'm probably going Sprite. I'm going to grab a Sprite. Not a story. We'll talk about that.

Not that I know that you drink a few of those stories, you might be in a Zion conversation. I don't need that. I am a weight-fluxing guy. And the snack of choice is always going to be Reese's for me. Always going to be Reese's. But if it's too hot, I have to go with chip or beef jerky or something like that. Sure.

I'm going with the shredded jerky. You know what I mean? Just so I can do this. The dip. The stuff you use when you're a kid is dip. Just so I can do this while I'm walking out. You know, everybody can kind of see it and hear it. And then while you're driving through, it lasts a little bit longer. Yeah, exactly. You know, everybody can kind of see it and hear it. And then while you're driving, too, it lasts a little bit longer.

Yeah, exactly. You know, you act like you're making the most of this whole thing. But I'm going with Reese's pretty much every single time. If they have the egg-shaped, I'm going with that one over all of the others. AJ, your thoughts? Give me white rice and chicken. You should have got a Slurpee instead of a Sprite I don't do the slurpees

oh so good not with straws I will drink out of a straw but I do not drink slurpees I actually hate the sound so I'm not inviting that into the car through my mouth you know what I mean

you spoon it in. With the cool looking straw. Was that debated with Coach JB or not? The spoon straw? I don't think he covered that portion of it. Because that's a game changer. I'm not a big slurpy guy. AJ, what are you going with if you're back before you had one meal all the time, every meal?

When you were 10. Well, that's not the case now either, but I would probably get, and hopefully they have the pellet ice in the fountain situation. I'm the pellet ice with an ice cold pepsi if they had wild cherry pepsi that's a huge bonus okay it would be great okay mountain dew would be amazing and actually when you showed that lineup uh of that convenience store swedish fish are pretty good i could go for some of those okay sugar guy pac-man also a sugar crunchy chex mix too i'd like chex mix yeah those are great how about those Mix, too. I like Chex Mix. Yeah, those are great. How about those ones that, it's like Chex Mix with a coating on top of it.

Gardettos? No, it's like- Puppy Chow? Muddy Buddy? Puppy Chow, yeah. Not Puppy Chow. It is Puppy Chow, but Chex Mix is Muddy Buddy. They've made the homemade shit into a bagged operation. Exactly.

So good. I will get those every once in a while. That is a good mixture of the salt and the chocolate. I'm a bagged operation. Exactly. So good. I will get those every once in a while. That is a good mixture of the salt and the chocolate. I'm a chocolate fan myself. I know you're a sugar guy though. Pac, what are you going with out of there? I'm going with the Crush Ice, Red Bull, Walla Millen,

Nerds, Gummy Nerds, Sour, and then Chewy's. So that is exactly what you brought in today that is actually out here. So the hypothetical Kane presented was a Wednesday for Pac-Man Jones on his way from Cincinnati to Indianapolis,

which is a road trip. Yeah, that's true. On his way to work, doing the whole thing. And then three Copenhagen's? Three Copenhagen's. Okay, that makes sense. Because you're stopping in an hour. Gotta have it.

Connor, you did Thanksgiving at a gas station. I did. I don't know if that differs from your road trip. What are you doing? Funyuns and chocolate milk, right? That's what I did Thanksgiving. That is the Thanksgiving gas station trip. And, you know, you throw in a black and mild or two if it's on Thanksgiving.

Oh, to celebrate. Exactly, yeah. Might as well sit outside. You know, honestly, I'm more of a, uh like not the case of m&ms but like the half bag that you got to like peel open peanut m&ms i would do that sheer size yeah sit sheer size don't don't share them though because everyone's getting a snack and they're melting so i don't have and they're melting yeah uh this is very rare but if you do happen upon a baja blast uh canned mountain dew i would go with that for sure.

Or I would maybe run back to chocolate milk, depending on how hungry I was, because I know I'm also having that bag of peanut M&Ms. Okay. Anybody going Bugles? Bugles are good. I don't know if it's my – if I'm only getting one or two things, I don't know if Bugles – there was a time, though, down in Tampa when we were walking to that gas station where I fell in love with the Bugles. It was a great 7-Eleven.

I was going, go boats on the way in. Go boats, go boats, go boats. It was in the middle of the NHL playoff push for the Lightning that had already won one, looking to win back-to-back. They did. Right to the Bugles is where I was heading, actually, at one point in my life. Not now, but at one point. Bugles had a good run. Yeah, Bugles are good. You like Bugles, AJ? You ever try

them? No, probably not. I've had them. They're alright. It doesn't work with the sphinges. You've got to be in the mood. Yeah, because you can't put your fingers on them because the little caps are heading fucking east. Yep. Instead of, you know what I mean? This sucks. Exactly. I understand.

That's probably why you don't like it. Red Vines. Red Vines are legit way better than Twizzlers. No. They have Red Vines. I'm not a big Twizzler guy. The nerds. I'm not either.

Red Vines are way different. Red Vines are the, like they're longer, right? No, they look just like Twizzlers, but they taste way better. One at a time. I want a big sugar guy. That Nerd Rope thing he's brought in here, though. That thing's real good. You got to get the four-pound nerd.

The giant, chewy, sweet tarts. So good. Very sweet. Ty, what are you going with? Probably do Cherry Dr. Pepper. That's very good. Shit. Very good. Oh, yeah. Because I saw your eyes light up do like a Cherry Dr. Pepper. That's very good. Shit. Very good.

Oh, yeah. And then it- Because I saw your eyes light up when he said Cherry Pepsi, so that made you think- I love WCP. I'm not a Pepsi guy, but I will fuck with WCP for sure. But yeah, I'll probably do like a Cherry Dr. Pepper and then either a King Size Snickers or some spicy Doritos. Ooh.

I'll tell you what, two different options there. Doritos are a great snack. The Snickers ice cream bars, if they have those. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hey, those are the best ones. I think the Snickers one's the best one. By far the best one.

Twix, Twix not bad. Solid. Choco Taco. Yeah, I'm talking about just the one. Just the bars. That was the greatest treat we could ever get. If we went to somebody's house and you got a Snickers ice cream bar or for some reason you had them at your house for some reason,

they are always gone in three seconds. But, yeah. Are you a liability, though, if you have ice cream on a road trip? RV? No, because you've got to eat it quick. Yeah, you've got to get the singular. You're not buying a box. You buy a box, get the fuck out of the car.

Right. Do you have a fridge in your Astro? Man, ice cream, that changed. Oreo cookie sandwich, then, if we're doing that. You know what? I like the old classic. Chocolate chip cookie. Big bopper.

Yeah. I think that is... Snickers is number one, though. The ice cream Snickers on the way out of the door. Yeah. That they put right there. So good. Already checked out.

Got to get back in line. Ha! Yep. Got to do it. Let me do it. And if the Snickers one's out and they got that cookie one next to it, I will will dabble can't be too cold though you know like no that's just like some chocolate stuff can't get if it's too hot like summer you know not a good some of the chocolate shit can't do during the summer because it's a nightmare hershey's telling you wrapping it up here pal

let's make it good as we get out uh snyder's of berlin barbecue chips with a smart water with the squeeze cap hell yeah okay okay well water i'll take a turner's iced tea and a smart water with the squeeze cap. Hell yeah. Okay. Water. I'll take a Turner's iced tea and a little mini cup. You get water no matter what tone? Yeah. I'm a water all the time guy. Really? Okay.

That's because you had that heart thing. If you had those shoes, would you get a Pepsi, Coke, Mountain Dew? I would get a ginger ale. Nice. That tastes good too. Ginger ale pretty good. I love ginger ale. How about combos?

Anyone say combos? I do like combos. Combos is my go-to. That would have been my answer. Pizza one. Yep. Yeah ale, pretty good. I love ginger ale. How about combos? Anyone say combos? I do like combos. Combos is my go-to. That would have been my answer. Pizza one. Yep. Yeah, pizza or cheddar. And then that Gatorade with the nipple top that's blue, that's the best one.

Don't make it sexual. Well, no, but then when you're driving. You made it sexual. We're talking about bottles and stores. Why are you talking nipples? You don't need to talk about nipples. It's actually called the nipple top. The pop top.

Yeah, you can do the crooner. What are you talking about, dude? Got to find a way to monetize this. He fucking hate it. Trust in my decal. Zito, what are you going with? I love Bugles all the way, but Doritos is my number one. What kind?

What kind? I go just nacho cheese. I love the nacho cheese. I'll be a rich. Dude, Doritos did figure it out. Cool Ranch, too. But that's the whole thing there. Exactly.

I'm the purple bag guy. Spicy. I think those are so good. Takis? No, purple Dorito bag. Oh, you guys know Takis? My kids love Takis. Oh, yeah.

My kids love Takis, too. Yuck. What is it? Chips? We love the Suns game. They were just handing those out. Oh, they're so gross. Those hot fries had a little run there for a bit.

I ate those for a good amount of time. I don't like anything that gets super. Got to wear gloves. Yeah, which is tough because is it in a gas station or not? Has Dahmer shopped here and needed gloves? Oh, geez, Bill. Bill, you didn't deserve that. Bill might, though.

Nick, what are you going with? You got pasta, rigatone on the way up? I wish, man. I wish. But no no it's pretty standard slurpy uh smart water like tone mentioned and then uh the chewy sweet tarts maybe some combos and i need a donut and two percent milk don't sleep on the gas station hot dog i agree well if you need it not eating a hot dog i would not sleep on it your fingers will turn into the kings if you eat too many of those. Nick had a just a cup of milk earlier today before we won it. With?

A donut. But it just seemed so like pure. Like what a moment there. I looked over he had a white see-through plastic cup and he was drinking it. I had to just was that the cup or is it what's in there? And I watched him take like three, four different swigs of this thing.

I'm like, I'm a motherfucker drinking milk right now. Holy shit. I've never seen an adult so long just have a nice cup of milk. You have milk there in the fridge? I think he dash marted it. Yeah, I brought it in today. You brought in the milk? Yeah, we had donuts and muffins.

I needed the milk. Wait, it wasn't the little carton? It wasn't the little pint you get at school? No. No. It was a one liter. He had two one liters for some reason. It's unbelievable.

I was going to take one home with me. That's a good breakfast, Nick. It's unbelievable. He was so genuinely fulfilled, too. So much joy radiating. It was a cool moment over there. I love it. It is 10.45.

I saw dunking it. Were you? I dunked. Yeah, that's smooth. Why not? like, I love it. It is 10. I saw dunking it. Were you? I dunked. Yeah, that's why not. Oh my God. Make yourself. What kind of donut? Chocolate.

Oh, we got some good donuts in here. Jock's Donuts. Jock's Donuts. So Chuck and the owner of Jock, whose name is something line, last name is line. Chuck and this guy have a great relationship. This guy, good guy.

I think he's done a lot of great things with Chuck Strong and everything like that. He owns a donut company here. So anytime Chuck Pagano stops by here, he brings four dozen fucking donuts. And they are, like every one of them, delicious. So Chuck stopped in here yesterday. He was in town. Great to see him.

Love that man. He looks good. Good tan right now. Oh yeah. Hair is great. Yeah, he looks real good. He looks real good. He looks real good. Enjoying his summer. Remember, he had that 33rd team interview with Harbaugh that we all enjoyed just a couple weeks ago. Excited to get back in the season with him. But he'll bring four dozen donuts in here,

and then he doesn't eat a single one of them. No, he doesn't. I'm on a Peloton three times. I'm in shape. It's like, well, then no fucking. What are you doing? What the hell? What are you bringing up for us?

It's like what Bill did a couple weeks ago. Yeah, exactly. Bill, in his third day of MRF training, whenever he's wearing a weighted vest around the office, and all of a sudden he brings two of those. Donut day. Doesn't eat a single one of them. That's fucked up. And he takes it around in front of your...

Who wants one? Who wants one? Oh, I bought these. You don't want any? Whoa, what the hell? I'll take it. Pac-Man can eat it all. I'll take it.

Ulysses is over there fucking hammering. Yeah. The best. Spuck it. Got it. I'll take it. Ulysses is over there fucking hammering. Yeah. The best. I'll bounce back. Angle of that. AJ, how much money are you giving away? Six merches. No, money. Your money.

It's Wednesday. Winter Wednesday. What do we usually give? What do you usually give? Maybe 40 gas station snacks. Okay. We should give away scratch-offs. Those are good gifts. Ty delivered scratch-offs to me.

I don't know what holiday it was. It might have been my birthday. It was your birthday, yep. With one of the most sincere congratulations. You just won $7.5 million as he handed it to me and then walked away, played the as he handed it to me and then walked away played the bit off the entire time and then somebody else like i was in the middle of a conversation and i looked down at it 22 scratch offs and he had you had to have done

the math of all the winners oh yeah and you just delivered it as if not i won't let you know yeah i probably didn't win anything not a single fucking one not even a three dollar or five dollar on a twenty dollar one not a single one one. Not even a $3 or a $5 on a $20 one. Not a single one of them. God damn it. Somebody just hit a million dollar one shop and save in Washington, Pennsylvania. Washington County, Pennsylvania. Wow. Probably Gene Steratore.

Look for him to retire. Of course. Boom! It's not good. It's not good, bro. Ow, fuck! Jabba! The track. It's not good. It's not good, bro. We're golfing this morning. Ow, fuck. Jabba.

What happened? What happened? Track. There it is. It's not falling again. A couple left. Still got two left. Yeah, yeah. A couple left.

Push the TV back a little bit. This TV? TV's in a while. Nah, nah. It's off, dude. Yeah, you made one earlier. No, no. Just a little while. So we got TV here, obviously,? Nah, nah. What's up, dude? Yeah, you made one earlier. No, no, just a little. So we got TV here, obviously, for Ty and Connor to look at.

Uh-huh. We got TV up there for Ty and Connor to look at. That box right behind Connor's ass right there, that is all the audio for the whole fucking stage. Yeah. Rested the water on there for too long one time. Did we know that that's how it was going to be set up? Absolutely not, but that box is pretty vital

to the entire operation. That can't go behind the wall or anything? Nope. It has to be on the stage. Or FIDs. I'll tell you what, AJ, we don't know. It's probably still exploded. I didn't go to some fucking audio technical school.

I had some similar questions. Anywhere? Anywhere? Anywhere? You know, anywhere? I would say, speaking of audio, you know, it's a highly volatile audio situation. But I don't know if you can hear Knox 20,000 leagues below the seafloor. True. All right, how about this?

I make a shot, they're alive. Okay, here we go. Real stakes. Holy shit. Here we go. Real stakes. I like it. Oh, my God, dude.

It's five people. Let's go. I got two balls. I got two balls. Two balls. Two balls. Two balls. Holy hell.

We're talking about the submersive. Yeah. Tight. They have 50 hours. The tube. You want to go real odds and go hook shot? No, no. Real odds.

Standard three-pointer. If I make one of these shots, I think we should think that the universe is letting us know that there's a chance that they are alive. And if you miss... There's a lot of pressure. Yeah. Golly, there's a billionaire down there.

Yeah, I know. If you miss, they died the worst death of all time. I got you, buddy. Yes. Yes. I got you. All right. So now we know.

Let's look to hear from them at least tonight or tomorrow. Can't wait for that. We'll be back with another big time program. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this every single day. You're the greatest humans on earth. Be a friend. Tell us, you know, not just a friend, maybe a stranger.

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