The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 932 - Feel Good Friday With Dan Orlovsky, Ian Rapoport, Dana White, Michael Lombardi, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

Today’s Feel Good Friday is anchored by four great guests. First, joining Pat, AJ, and the boys is 12 year NFL veteran, ESPN NFL analyst, Dan Orlovsky to chat about playing in the Pro-Am at The Travelers Championship, his thoughts on Mac Jones and the Patriots, Jordan Love and the Packers collective ceiling this year, who the best team in the AFC is, and where the Colts and Steelers fall in terms of tiers in the NFL this year (18:59-58:31). Next, Ian Rapoport joins the show to chat about the Commanders sale, updates in the Dalvin Cook situation, and everything else happening around the NFL (1:07:59-1:32:58). Later, UFC President Dana White joins the progrum to chat about the Mark Zuckerberg v. Elon Musk fight, and how likely it is that it gets done and if it will be on a UFC card (1:47:44-1:54:51). Lastly, 3x Super Bowl Champion, NY Times best selling author, host of the Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle, Michael Lombardi joins the show to chat about everything happening around the NFL and his thoughts on the NBA Draft coverage (2:14:31-2:41:03). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. Huh? I almost said the Thunderdome. Because this is Feel Good Friday, June 23rd. This show starts now. Feel Good! On this Thunderdome, I thought you were potentially going to throw a curveball at me there, because today is all about fun. Yeah, it is. Today is all about celebrating the fact that the weekend is almost upon us. We have to make it through one more work day.

And then, obviously, there's people in the service industry that their work days are really about to pick up. And we understand that there's third shifters and weekend workers. And we appreciate that. But in the grand scheme of things, Friday is an indicator that freedom is right around the corner. And we're about to have an incredible Feel Good Friday program as we wrap up all the news stories of the week. Yeah. We're about to have a lot of fun today. We got Dan Orlovsky joining us.

We got Rapoport joining us. And Dana White joining us. Yeah. Dana White obviously did TMZ Sports, talking about the Elon Musk-Mark Zuckerberg fight that he thinks is potentially an actuality. Right now, in some of the sports books, Mark Zuckerberg is favored, minus 160.

Elon Musk at plus 140. But that could all change if we see Elon Musk do a little bit of a walrus that he called his patented move, where he lays his body on top of people and traps them underneath his fat, as he described it all. Zuckerberg, obviously, we know, a triple degree black belt in jujitsu. He's been training in winning tournaments and losing tournaments in devastating fashion where he has gotten gypped by the ref and the judges and actually told them to restart this thing and then picked up another gold medal with a gi and without a gi on it. Hell, yeah. That's exactly right.

So there should be a lot of conversation today. Those things happened last night. Ooh, Shamshirani. Yeah, Shammy. We don't like being a part of it. No, not at all. We didn't like that we were a part of it. It feels like we were potentially a part of maybe leading people astray, but I don't think Shams

at the time was led astray, because he did say a couple different times, you know, this could change before tonight. There's been some real banter back and forth. Now, the internet is telling us that Michael Jordan, who is still the owner, but has agreed to sell the team. The internet's telling us that Michael Jordan maybe who is still the owner but has agreed to sell the team. Yep.

Right. The internet's telling us that Michael Jordan maybe had an idea of who the pick is going to be for the Hornets. And it's still his team technically because the sale hasn't been completed just yet. Sure. And then maybe the new ownership had a thought on who it was. And allegedly, that was maybe what the back and forth was. And in the end, Michael Jordan said, still my team. I'm me.

Could have signed us last week. You guys could have gave me this money last week. We could have had a couple billion. I already switched hands, you know, after a $25 million investment by me. Now I'm getting a couple billion. You know, we could have done this. But instead, since it's delayed and it's happened, I still have to say, give us Brandon Miller whenever Sean Sharania said earlier

and shut down every single sports book that Scoot Henderson was all of a sudden going to be the number two overall pick. So that was a surprise. I'm sure Sean didn't love his mentions, but you, when you're in that business, there's a chance that's going to happen to you. Now you've got to learn as you go forward because Woj was waiting. Oh man.

And Woj was on the show for the first time a couple days ago, and I don't know if we'll ever see him again on the show. I don't know if he necessarily enjoyed himself over here. Sure. But if he did, maybe we'll get a chance to chat with him in the future. But he put out a tweet immediately after the number two overall pick was not Scoot and goes, All along, the entire Charlotte Hornets organization has been all in on Brandon Miller. Ooh.

Ownership, front office, scouts, coaches. They see him as a perennial future all-star player. So Woj was like, what's that, Shams? They were bickering, huh? I heard the internet was saying maybe there was some Michael Jordan new ownership bantering going on. That's not true. No, it wasn't.

I guess it's easy for Woj to do that after the pick happens. But I do like the fact that Woj sees the moment. And if you're Shams, you've got to remember this. You've got to put this down in your little daily journal that tells you to drink water and to use a fork in oatmeal and to go get lunch and keep yourself healthy and handsome. You need to write in there, let Woj slip. Won't have.

It has come up in season for old Shams Sharania. Tough night on the internet for Shams, but it's going to be okay. Yeah, you're good, Shams. Keep swinging. It's going to be okay. He's certainly wrong. Certainly Shams. Keep swinging. It's going to be okay. He's certainly wrong. Certainly wrong. And my mentions started blowing up with that as well.

I appreciate the fact that we got that news, and I do apologize to anybody that – Tone lost a lot of money. Yes, he did. So, listen, you don't think – we tried to benefit off of that piece of information as well. We did. That was my fault.

Yeah, we – It's not Shams' fault. That's the better's fault. That's one half of the hammer. Cowboys, digs. You're saying because even if a very plugged-in person says, hey, this is happening in a thing that like, hey, this is happening, is actually the outcome normally?

This isn't competition. No. Brandon and Scoot weren't going to play for the number two overall pick. Sure. This was humans making a decision saying, this one is better. And we were able to bet on that. Yeah. Not normally able to do that.

So then whenever you get information that you hear, boom, this person saying, the decision I'm going to make that you can profit off of. Right now. Is this. And then it's not that. You say it's a better shot. I was one of those betters. I'm not taking blame for that.

No way am I putting that on. You should have seen what I was thinking about Sean. Love Sean. This fucking guy. Sean's a good man. But God damn it. I was supposed to have a little trophy right there. That's right.

And I don't because of that. Now, it's tough. You're going to lose. That is gambling. Sure. It's not called sports winning. Exactly. It's called sports gambling.

But that one felt real as it could possibly be, Tone. What are you blaming me for? I'm not blaming you. I said I'm just blaming myself. You know when you push that button. Oh, this is how he gets through this thing. You push that button. Nothing is guaranteed and we know it was fucking smokescreen season so

maybe Shams got it. Whoa. It's smokescreen season. We were being used. Questioning sources, Tony. Good Lord. Shams doesn't want that to happen. No, he doesn't. I don't know how new ownership is going to feel, too. They got a potential axogram with the next insider of the NBA.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Whoever told him whatever it was. Because that was certainly large news. Huge news. Minus 900. The even bigger part on our side, our fault, fault when scoot goes to minus 900 and brandon miller's sitting there plus 700 you probably should have put someone brandon miller plus 700

you want either way fair all right so now that's my see that's what the professional gamblers are they scan all the books and see where the difference is is in the numbers and they actually spend like that's their life. Hours and hours of scanning books and bets, seeing where they can gain an edge with points from the different numbers. So whenever we had Brandon at plus because of what Sean said, should have went

that way. At both and plus, you guarantee yourself profit, but that's for professional gamblers who make their entire living off of that. We're just out here. Those people do not live a life. That needs to be known. The people that are winning in sports gambling now,

the toxic tables here at Ty Schmid at Boston Conner and Boston Conner's Mullet. Looks great. Thank you very much. Got more products. Hell yeah. Shout out Hairspray. Not the movie. Non-sheer non-sheer hairspray no fizz you're not gonna win when you gamble all the time sure but right now there's a podcast

that goes live after this show ends that is in the middle of a fucking heater scorching hot and normally you know you say well don't talk about it. You know, we don't want to ruin it. I talked about this the other day. Yep. Three days ago, talked about them being hot. And they've continued right through it numerous times. Show's been around a long time.

And there's some good, good gamblers that are talking about the gambling. Oh, yeah. The hammer down crew right now betting on baseball is 52 and 25 over the last seven days. Damn. Okay. Now, I understand that you can see the 25 number there and say that's big. Whenever you throw in 52 and you have 77 total games here and you got 25, you're batting 666 right now over that.

That's fucking an unbelievable week, boys. Absurd. You need to be very proud of yourselves over there. Way to go, Hammerdown boys. Almost as if when the playoffs for hockey and NBA ended and the U.S. Open kind of ended. Hey, let's fucking dial into baseball because it's all we're doing for the next three months until football starts. So you guys doing some research? Oh, yeah. We're diving deep. Tony, too.

Did you see his golf bet yesterday as well? No. Tony? I had Denny McCarthy to win the Travelers. He went 10-under yesterday. Shot a 60. I had 50. It was to win 3,500 on him to win the tournament. I decided to cash out because there's a lot. Golf.

There's a lot of sharks lurking around. Huge cash out. It was a 10X cash out last night after the first round. More than 10X? I thought it was $800. No, $500. Okay. Joining us now is the other half of the hammer,

Don Cowboys. He is 22 and 8. Geez Louise. Over the last week on first fives. And obviously we won't talk to him about baseball, but he's on a heater right now and i would like to get his thoughts on the shams lock yesterday oh man oh boy he's gonna i was told ladies and gentlemen gumpy yeah gumpy tone told me and we love shams we always will we appreciate

shams huge shams guys we are shams fans yes tone told told me, well, Tone was telling himself, I guess, but projecting it onto me. He's like, as a better, we shouldn't have been, whatever, whatever. That one was one I thought we had. So let's just all grieve quickly. Fuck! Damn it. Let's move on.

Not on you. Not on you. Thank you, thank you. Not on us, it sounds. Not on you. 22-8 in baseball. You're just seeing the diamond well right now? Or what do we got?

We got something locked in? What are we seeing mostly out of the Canadian sensation, Dumpy? Feels like we're hitting the time in baseball where the teams are figuring out, the pitchers are starting to figure out the pitch clock, and we're pretty dialed in right now on the diamond. So you do first fives, right? That's all we're doing? Yeah, I've been stretching it out to

full games a bit because some of the teams are so good and some of the teams are so bad that you cannot bet first five at the number they're at right now. It's absurd. Oh, it's big. Like you're seeing minus 370 favorites

right now. Jeez. It's fucking insane. When you go on a run like this does it carry into the rest of your life do you feel like you're skipping around a little better do you think like uh lawyers in washington dc are going to start seeing things differently what do you what do you think about that you think 22 and 8 pretty good yeah nobody else is doing. We'll put that in the fucking thing. Let's document that. Give those guys picks. Come on, man. Jesus.

Hey, remember, big meeting next week. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in a good spot. We're in a good spot. Okay, I didn't know this. Yeah, big meeting. Big meeting. Let's go.

Big meeting. I'm going to shake some hands. I don't like to do this. I don't like to do it ever. Hate doing it, actually. It's my least favorite. That's why we're stewing in here. Yeah. Yeah. don't like to do this. I don't like to do it ever. Hate doing it, actually. It's my least favorite. That's why we're stewing in here. Yeah.

Yeah. Don't like to do it is a huge understatement. Hate shaking hands. Hate doing this thing. You know, don't enjoy it. Hey, you're great. You're awesome. Oh, good to see you.

Hey, you're great. You're awesome. Great suit. Hey, oh my God. Man, strong shake there. Oh my God. You're the best. See ya.

All right. We get it. Yeah. I'm doing, my God. You're the best. See ya. All right. We get it. Yeah. I'm doing it. Next week, we got one. We got a couple of these, a couple of these, a couple of these. We got a guy stuck. Huh?

Can we? What's that? Bring him home. You got a job. It's the American dream, bro. What are we even talking about? Got any power? Huh?

Show us your power. He'll pay taxes. All right. I watch House of Cards. First episode to last episode. All the way through in preparation for next week. I've been listening to

Coming Home by Diddy every day. Coming home. Coming home. Tell the lights he's coming home And let the rain wash away Immigration lost in air And the joe is...

All right, we appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll see him soon, Canadian Gunpowder. Canadian Gunpowder! You guys are doing phenomenal. Thank you. Honestly, whenever I heard about the number, we immediately said, Dirty, need a graphic. Let's make

these dudes look good because you guys are crushing it right now on the diamond. I want to let you know you're hitting better than I was when I went into that Oculus and did the win reality CeCe Sabathia baseball swinging thing. Oh no. How was it?

We did it yesterday. So they sent us a win reality. Yeah. Okay. Win reality. Win bet? No. Or W-I-N. W-I-N.

Okay. Okay. Win reality has this baseball game in the Oculus. It is allegedly actual pitches. Yeah. That you can see. And you can attach the thing, one of the hand things, to the bat. So you're seeing actual pitches.

You're working in there. I am a huge proponent of the Oculus Arena. That's right. I literally, for WrestleMania two years ago, my training was boxing in the Oculus. That was my cardio training was boxing in the Oculus. It fucking killed me. I fell in love with it.

I enjoyed it. Obviously, because the internet knows everything that you do they started funneling me with virtual reality ads of shit just on all my different things most of them look like shit because at the stage of development in which it was then a few years back versus where it is now it was all kind of mickey moss no offense it was all kind of Mickey Moss. Kind of trashy. It has since evolved mightily and quickly. But there was this thing when reality that was like, you can take a pitch off somebody.

And I'm fresh off of playing that baseball game where I didn't know if I was a righty or a lefty. So I was like, we find out quickly. At that stage, they didn't have a bat available now you could only see the pitches like so i was couldn't actually take cuts yeah figure out the tech you could just see the pitches allegedly but then you're back out of the arena and they had

some baseball games that it was very like animated like you're swinging a bat that's this big so they've developed over the last few years to become an actual training thing where you can see every – here's me right here. Holy shit, that was coming, he says. Moving. It's literally right in there. Beautiful stadium. It is. This is a collegiate pitcher.

Oh, my God. Still coming. I made a little contact here. That's ridiculous. 88 mile an hour fastball. You know what I mean? And then the pros ones, I guess, go up to like 97, 98. What do you think, Ty?

How can you even hit? I mean, that looks sweet. Too early. Yeah, too early. I only got like two hits. But you said, I mean, you can see. I guess that's 200. Yeah, it's pretty good.

Two out of 10 is not terrible. You're three at-bats away from the hall. But I wasn't using the actual bat. You see the actual bat's down on the ground to the side there? Because through the tutorial I have to get through. This is a tutorial where they're showing me pitches and showing me everything. I don't think I'm allowed to use the bat or we didn't set it

up right. But I think it's going to be the real deal. I was in there last night. They're coming. Oh yeah. Wild watching. That's an insane thing. If I could do that every night, I'd get into baseball. Watching other people do that, I'm learning.

It's tough for me to dive into all the time. Yeah, I mean, it looks sweet. I'm excited to try. The thing that I'm most worried about is did you get, I mean, because I think we're kind of the same, and you've used the Oculus way more than I have, but getting motion sickness, putting that on, and actually taking real hacks.

So you're not moving. So when you move. Oh, yeah, taking real max. So you're not moving. So when you move – Oh, yeah, I guess you're standing stationary or not. But there's a couple different ones where they have you move with your thumbs. Like shooting games. Crush me. I had to get out of there like real quick. Had a headache immediately.

Yeah, I had to get out of there. I couldn't do it. Now, I'm not good at the shooting games with just your thumbs and not in virtual reality, but the movement, actually the body moving and doing all that, it fucked me up. Too much. Yeah, it fucked me up bad. The boxing one, I guess you're moving in there too. Yeah, but also still your head isn't small.

Like you're staying, your arms are moving and stuff, but I feel like the head camera is actually- But I am walking around though. Yeah, but that's what I mean. The camera is typically always on the person you're fighting yeah and there's others nick got in there nick's been in there a lot too you remember you nick sent me this one game to do where they actually had you look at something if you're starting to get motion sickness like it was like built into the game smart like hey just look back here this will kind of take care of you and then you kind

of get out of there i don't know if it was low or high. It was like a roller coaster thing. Yeah, the problem comes in with those when you're, like the boxing one, you're physically moving your body and your head around. It's when your body is not moving, but you're moving mentally. The imagery is moving.

Yes, yes. Okay. Piece it all together. There it is. But I don't do all the games in virtual reality, just the sport ones. And I'm very excited for the future with i mean ping pong yeah awesome so good it's perfect like you even mentioned it's not it's not like where those mickey mouse former baseball games where you're swinging is delayed like the ping pong you are playing ping pong

actual and you feel your it actually gives you like a haptic response when you yeah great word there haptic oh yeah unbelievable word right there but yeah it is a haptic response and it's like the perfect amount of wiggle too that it actually feels like a ping pong ball hitting the ping pong paddle spin yeah i feel like ping pong's real yes so good in there boxing obviously real i've knocked out every single person right in there in there. It's real. 100% real. I got slept twice in there. I was not happy. Was that Spider?

Was that the champ? No. Yeah, it was Spider. Spider's a big son of a bitch. Spider's not the champion, though. Oh, that's right. Champion's dude from Ireland. Gold gloves or something?

Yeah, he ain't never got me. No way. Just no. Same with Corbin. But I'm not signing up for the champion when I'm, like, tired. You know what I mean? No chance. Yeah, you're going in there.

I'm fighting champion first of the day. That's right. And then I'm fighting all the other bums later when I get tired. Exactly. Make it even. But that boxing thing really, like, I think made me buy in. Then ping pong. This baseball thing's a real deal.

Okay. You think it actually, like actually You could see guys in college And the pros using it as a training tool I don't know I guess it's different because those guys can actually just go out And take BP whenever they want But if I'm a kid They have like U14 pitchers

U15 pitching options I can't wait to take these little punks fucking yard But they have all those options So like if you can afford And they're hilariously expensive these fucking so like if you can afford and they're hilariously expensive these fucking things but if you could afford one i think if your kid is a baseball player i think it's probably the move a pretty good thing especially if you live in like a cold climate yeah yeah florida is a good spot right they can go do whatever they want joining us now is a man

he's from a very cold climate he uh actually played in the pro-am of the golf tournament that's happening right now the other day because he is the king of the state in which the Travelers is taking place. That's right. UConn legend. Now UConn doesn't have a football home when it comes to conference-wise

and they need not come to the Big 12 because we don't need the Big 12 to get any more anchors in it and drag it down anymore in this time of Big 4, Power 4, who's going to come to the Big 12 because we don't need the Big 12 to get any more anchors in it and drag it down anymore in this time of Big 4, Power 4, who's going to get to the top, who's not going to go. So we can keep UConn football out of the Big 12. Basketball, though, absolutely needed. If this man was quarterback of the team still, though,

would want that in the Big 12. NFL quarterback, ESPN quarterback guru, ladies and gentlemen, the ever-intelligent Dan Orlovsky. Yeah! What's going on, Dan? What's up? What's going on? Dan, hey. What's up, buddy? How'd you do at the Travelers Pro-Am? Did you do

well? How's the course? They're thinking this was one projection from Bruce Brown. 22 under might win this thing this weekend. Is that what you're thinking? Easy course? Did you do well? I did okay.

I think, like, that number's pretty accurate. Dude, the greens are absolutely pure. The guy that I played with, so, like, nowadays in the pro-ams, have you played pro-ams before the live golf became kind of a thing? Because before live golf, kind of a thing because before live golf guys played 18 holes like your pro would play 18 holes with you now they're only playing nine holes with you so my first nine holes were with davis riley he was 600 through nine holes he was lighting the place up so i played all right i was like 38 on the front, and then I went double, single, double, double. So I blew up 10, 11, 12, 13.

But all right. Yeah, but those holes are tough. I mean, as somebody who gaffes, but not a lot. Like gaffe, don't get the gaffe. In working to one day be able to gaffe all the time. In the sim. That is like one of the goals. That is like one of the goals of my life i would like to live on a golf course on a beach so that i can either go one way or the other

every single day that is the that's kind of the goal is there a preferred golf course because that's a tough combination to find is that like south carolina kiowa like what is that interesting i have heard about that particular place there's also another lake i guess in south carolina that all the super rich yups go to that kind of has that set up. But I think down in Florida, there's a couple good... Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

Down in Florida, I think there's some spots. Khaled. Yeah, wherever DJ Khaled's at, looks like it's a good time. Yeah. How about that house where he shoots out the back and he's in that pool? Oh, absurd.

Beach right there? He's the best, dude. Messi's moving next door. Tahoe always coming up july 13th 12th july 13th july 12th i'm playing up in a sim anyways i've only played in one pro am it was at uh west virginia it was in west virginia the greenbrier the greenbrier a couple years ago that was a good time that was a lot of fun we had john daly in our group obviously an absolute absolute blast yeah uh but 38 on the first.

You're a good golfer, Dan. You're a good golfer. I'm all right, dude. I'm all right. You play a lot. I probably play like three times a month now, you know, giving my kids and the sports and work and whatnot, about three times a month, four times a month.

We're proud of you, Dan. You work hard. Good boy, Dan. Oh, you know where I'm going? You know where I'm going Monday? Where? I'm going to Oakmont for the night. Yes.

Whoa. Do you sleep on campus there? I think we're staying up in a cottage or something like that. I'm totally riding coattails for this one, so I don't know much other than show up and go. Okay, I didn't know Oakmont had cottages. So you'll check in, probably go there, have a meal, play, stay the night, play the next day, then you're out? Yeah, I think it's like we're going to go to the cottage.

I think you hit some balls, have dinner, and rather having dinner in like the library or something like that. Okay. Wake up, play the next day, and go home. Tyrone was once a caddy at Oakmont. I was. If you need any – I don't think he's staying on the premises.

You know, he's not as hard as people say it is. I've never – I've only been there once for the U.S. Open, and we had a guy dressed in a full penguin suit, and they did not appreciate our thing. It was 400 degrees. But, yeah, it was a lot of space. I mean, eight's like a 290 par three, depending on what you're playing from.

So what do you think I'm going to score? Let's make a bet here for charity. What do you think my number will be? I think I'm a six handicap. Are you going to play like actual rules or what are we doing? I always play actual rules. From the tips? I'll play as far back as they'll

allow me to play. I don't know their rules or whatnot. What's par 72 or 70? 72, I think. A 290 par 3? That was the first hole you mentioned? Yeah, it might be a 70. He just played a very easy course though. Par 70. There we go. Okay. So you

80. Yep. You think I'm going to sure an 80 at Oakmont. Six. Yeah. We're giving you four more. What the fuck? It's not in tournament shape right now. What do you want?

You want 85? I don't know the course. Everyone says it's the hardest. Everyone says it's one of the hardest courses you'll ever play. Yeah. Number eight, 288 is listed at the. Is it raining in PA? To be honest, I don't know anything about this place.

Long car files. You end up in the church pews. You're going to be tough there. Oh, yes. So you want 90? What the fuck do you want? You're a six handicap. If you get a good caddy, though,

they will tell you exactly where to put it. Don't be so mentally weak. What are we talking about? You're a six handicap. Don't fucking play the course. Don't be a wolf, man. What are we talking about? A guy like Dan doesn't have the grit to tackle Oakmont.

Let's set the number at 82. 82 and a half. All right. Over. Okay. Who's going to be there? We don't know anybody who's going to be there. Who are you playing with, Dan?

Buddy of mine, Kevin Libitor, Chuck Haberstroh, and then the member is that. Yeah, but Haberstroh is known for being a fucking lion sack of shit. Chuck's a sandbag. I got a lie for you. We know Haberstroh will do that. That's a sandbag. I got to lie for you. We know Habistro would do that. That's what they say. Oh, Habistro. He will not lie. My uncle actually still guys there, dude.

Yeah, you're right. You're a dad of 10 kids. You can't lie, especially publicly. So you get above 82. If I shoot 83 or worse, I will donate 500 bucks to a charity of your guy's choice. Okay.

Swear on the Bible. Okay. Swear on the Bible. 500 bucks. Let's make that at least 1,000. I mean, have to at this stage of life. 1,000. And if I break 82, if I shoot 82 or better, you got to give 1,000 to a charity of my choice.

Oh, that was fine. So I thought you 1,000 because you're getting to Charity of My Choice. Oh, I thought it was $5,000. So, I thought you $1,000 because you're getting to play Oakmore. Yeah. Me, $250 because I'm just sitting here hearing about it. Exactly. Yeah, you're jealous too. You wanted to play. That's what you did. My whole life. I used to drive by that thing just like, oh, there's a nice course there. Set it on Monday. And you said $80.

Yeah, and I wanted $80. That's what I would have said. We're giving you six and a half strokes above your handicap. Are you kidding me? Stephen A. was right. This guy is a cheapskate. He is, isn't he? Guys, this is for charity.

Oh, dang. Don't spin it. I'm behind the shield of philanthropy. I don't want to hear it. Don't get cheap now that you're a dad. It's for charity. Okay. All right, I'll do $1,000, Dan.

Jeez. You're not even playing i i'm just sitting here and we're being lied to by the hasbro brothers what the hell yeah i am so sick of it all right good luck out there we're pulling for you let's talk about football yesterday we had kirk herb street on or as you say yesterday we had kirk herb street on and he went to bat for mac j Jones and one of the biggest ways I've ever heard somebody talk for a quarterback ever I think yeah he said I'm a thousand percent in on Mac Jones and you've always been a thousand percent in on Mac Jones it feels like and even

going back to last year you got dunked on by us and many people when you said your number one worry going into the NFL season number one there's so many other things it could be obviously with the NFL a lot of shit to deal with your number one worry was Joe Judge and Matt Patricia being the offensive coordinator for Mac Jones and we said Dan you're the most dramatic dude on earth that is your number one worry and then lo and behold absolute shit show up there yeah nailed it it went absolutely terrible and it was like a massive question mark so we obviously have to own that we were wrong and you were right in that aspect but i think the reason why that was your thing is because how much you support mac jones how do you feel about mac jones going into this year with bill

o'brien a man who he was allegedly teaching an offense to at Alabama a few years ago. And Bill O'Brien, obviously a successful offensive person. And what if they bring DeHop? What does that mean? And do you think this is even possible? Yeah, so thoughts and prayers out to Herbie's son. Hopefully things are progressing there. Hell yeah. I feel better about Mac Jones' situation as it sits here today.

I will feel much better if they bring DeHop. I've been adamant they need to get DeHop into that building. So I'll start with this. The reason why I've been a big fan of Mac Jones is because I called a couple of his games at Alabama his last year there. And in the game, you can appreciate he's a good player, but you look at him through the lens sometimes, or at least I did, of an NFL prospect, and he doesn't necessarily fit the mold of what the stars look like athletically in the NFL right now at that spot. Then you studied him, or at least I studied him, and I was sitting there going, man, he has everything that it takes to be a very good player in the NFL at that position, but

elite playmaking athleticism. thing that it takes to be a very good player in the NFL at that position, but elite like playmaking athleticism. And so if you're telling me everything else when it comes to ball placement and anticipation and twitchiness in the pocket and the ability to make the right throw at the right moment and sudden feet and operating in a really small space, high level intellect. feet and operating in a really small space uh high level intellect he's got that at such a high level i really believe it makes up for him not being a freakazoid athlete so that it starts with that kind of belief of mac jones as a player i think he's in a much healthier place this year because listen like juju's a good player um taquan Thornton, their second-year player, I think he's got the chance to be like an Emmanuel Sanders was

for the Steelers, a big play down the field type of guy. I don't think he's going to be that good, but that type of impact. I still believe they need DeHop strictly because in the NFL right now, it's a game of either you're going to pound the football and live and play action and have yards after the catch people, or you're going to have three or four guys that are just going to play one-on-one football. They don't necessarily have any of that or either of that. They don't have a guy that is going to play one-on-one consistently and win. And they don't have somebody that is going to kill you in yards after the catch unless they have one of those number one guys.

If they have a D-hop and they put D-hop on one side of the formation and now the defense has got to say, hey, we've got to put two people over there because we don't have someone that can cover them one-on-one. Then on the opposite side, Juju's going to have favorable leverages or matchups, and then he can become a yards after the catch guy. The same with a Gasicki or a Hunter Henry. They're going to have more favorable matchups. If you told me they got Dehop, I'm sitting here saying mac jones is gonna have one

of those big third year leaps if they go into the season then they don't have d hop i still think he'll play better and improved but it's not going to be enough um to chase down people within their division or definitively have new england say mac jones is no question the guy all right speaking of the division god go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Orlovsky, loved everything you said there. I also hope that DeAndre Hopkins comes out, but maybe they'll put Gillespie out to the left instead of Juju in case it is a one-on-one

option. Do you think with that division, oh, you're right, Gasicki. Shout out Michael Lombardi in the NBA draft coverage. Do you think that if the Patriots keep it together and do get D-hop

that maybe they are a contender, but do you think either way the Super Bowl champion might be in the AFC East? Because I remember when the Rams won the Super Bowl, the whole thought was that the NFC West was going to destroy themselves on their way to the playoffs, and then obviously Niners, Cardinals, and Rams all make it. NFC Championship going to destroy themselves on their way to the playoffs and then obviously niners cardinals and

rams i'll make it nfc championship is the rams niners do you think that's a situation we're looking at here where whether it be the jets or the bills one of those teams ends up as a wild card and that could be your afc championship absolutely the bills and the jets are unquestioned super bowl contenders oh Oh! Because they are. Let's go! The quarterback talent that they have, the skill talent that they have, the defense that both have.

I think the Dolphins are knocking on that door. The question that everyone talks about is we got to have Tua healthy for the year. And as much as I love Tua, it hasn't happened. So if you told me Tua was going to play 17 plus games, they would be real Super Bowl contenders. New England without DeHop, I do not see as a playoff contender. New England with DeHop, they are now a playoff contender. I'm not putting them in Super Bowl contender territory, even with DeHop. I just think the AFC is so loaded. or territory, even with DeHop. I just think the AFC is so loaded. I think there's tiers in the AFC. I think there's four tiers that are, if you were sitting here being objective going, who are

real, unquestioned, very little doubtable contenders, it's Kansas City, it's Buffalo, it's Cincinnati, it's the Jets. Kansas City sits as the team that everyone's got to go chase and then there's another group of four or five which is um Miami the Chargers Jacksonville um Baltimore that are sitting there going they are just below them and they got to catch some health break they got to prove it to us when it matters the most. Everything's got to come together, but it's not a big drop-off. And then you got Colts, Steelers. Well, I don't think they're on the same tier. I think the Colts and Steelers, I think that next tier would be a tier that could surprise some people and be more competitive than expectations,

you know, kind of match them. Colts, Steelers, right? Broncos. Colts, Steelers, Broncos. Putting the Colts in there. Okay. Yeah, you're damn right. What are we talking about? I still think that Anthony Richardson is going to very much so surprise people this year.

I still believe that because of the element of the coach matchup and his athleticism, it's going to be real, man. Man, this is a good day. Feel good Friday. It's Colts, Steelers, and Broncos. You know what I mean? Fun Friday.

Come on. It is in the Thunderdome. Yeah. It was a good day. Thank you so much, Dan. That felt really good because I've been over here talking about how good this roster is in Indianapolis. Now, granted, I've also been talking about West Virginia

winning the national championship when they're over under is four and a half games. That's generous. Four and a half games. I don't know how many games UConn's going to win, and hopefully UConn will not come to the Big 12 and ruin what we got going on. But I will say my optimism about the Colts, strong.

Hey. Yeah. Legit, right? With Steichen's offense, Anthony Richardson, Jonathan Taylor's going to have to do something. Now, he is obviously seeing the running back market for what it is, but whenever you talk about Alec Pierce taking another leap, Michael Pittman Jr. going in there, Josh, the kid's wearing one.

Downs. Downs, yeah. Jelani Woods. He's 6'7", Jelani Woods. How about it? Mo'Ally Cox. And then on the defensive side, Love Mo, on the defensive side, we just got dogs everywhere.

I mean, why not, Dan? Why not the Colts, huh? That's my point, dude, and it's a division that's not loaded. We know Jacksonville sits at the top, but Houston I think will be a little bit more competitive than people think. I don't think there's a terrible team in the AFC. I really don't believe that top to bottom that there's a terrible team. The Titans are going to be competitive because Vrabel's such a good coach.

Houston's going to be improved because just the talent upgrade that they've had kind of are brought into their organization. And the Colts are, dude, here's my thing. If we just break down the Colts, Pat, and we sit here and go, quarterback's crazy athletic and the coach knows how to use that. All that fundamentally is going to do is create a funnel one-on-one on the outside. Michael Pittman and Alec Pierce are like 6'3", right? They're 6'3", they're 6'4", dudes. If they win, yeah. And Jelani Woods, Moe,

if they win 50% of those kind of opportunity balls, that's going to be a chunk of their offense, man. It's going to be win on a slant, win on a go row, win on a stop row. There's going to be like a beauty in the simplification of it. And if they can keep that like kind of the foundation of their offense, it's going to give them a huge chance to own the football, score points, rest the defense. I just think they'll be competitive, man.

I really do. And they're going to be electrifying to watch on the field as opposed to last year. You watch that team on the field, you're falling asleep. You are snoozing quick. Even if Anthony Richardson goes out and throws 45 interceptions, at least somebody's doing something. Exactly, and he's running around.

These games last year that we paid to go to were so fucking bad. I mean, it was just horrendous football. Even the teams that are good would come in and be terrible. Kansas City lost to the Colts. Eagles, they barely won. And it was just bad football, the whole thing. Travis Kelsey's on the field. Patrick Mahomes is on the field.

Somehow, bad, boring football. Just the Colts had that kind of stigma. And we get the number four overall pick, so we're playing bad football. So it's boring and losing football. That is not good for any program, anything. Anthony Richardson coming in just immediately makes me think, all right, the guy's the biggest, strongest, fastest quarterback to ever come through the combine.

He does the backflip thing with ease. It at least has to be a little bit more energy, hopefully, when it comes to the team. Hopefully they're able to go and do their thing. But to your point, coming off the bus, this Colts team? Oh, yeah. Fucking huge. And then on the defense side, you've got DeForest Buckner leading the way.

And he is, whatever, 6'6 or 6'7. He's a monster. 300 pounds. So big. We've got massive dudes. Let's do stuff. But to your point, there's no shitbag team in the AFC. I was trying to think.

And no offense to this team. They've got a great fan base and everything like that. Very passionate. The Raiders, right? That's kind of what I'm on as well. The Raiders, they don't have a quarterback. And they are also loaded like you can go down their roster and they have a bunch of studs still but whenever you look at

that afc ratings or uh odds to go win a super bowl you look at the whole afc side and it's like good good good good browns i guess you're wondering but like look at their comparison to browns the browns got a chance to be so much better their defense i think we did this dude i think their defense has nine first round picks on it so so compare that team to like the cardinals even the rams when it comes to their talent level the bucks you know like there are teams that are so much more just either young talented or like heavy on one side of the ball talented in the AFC in comparison to NFC. Yeah, that is.

And when it gets laid out and you do start going through every single division, you're like, does this team stink? Nah. Like if the Raiders were in the NFC South, would we not have them as the favorite in the NFC South? Absolutely. Or probably 1, two? Yeah, absolutely.

Well, even in the NFC, like the Saints, we're just assuming the Saints are really good. Derek Carr, yeah, new quarterback, new system. You think they're going to be good, the Saints? I think the Saints are going to be good. I got to see Derek in the new system. Michael Thomas' health is obviously a huge question.

I think their defense is going to be a lot better than it was in the beginning half uh michael thomas's health is obviously a huge question i think their defense is going to be a lot better than it was the beginning half of the last year i think like if i had to pick a team in that nfc south that i think has got the chance to like shock people i really do believe it'll be carolina and atlanta those two teams pat what are you hearing out of camp down there what are you hearing out of carolina with? What are you hearing out of Carolina with Frank and Josh? I know you've got a lot of friends down there, obviously. Everything has just been good, huh, out of Carolina? It sounds like. to probably like April and having conversations and just like text message conversations. And the, the kind of the phrase that kept getting shared with me about Bryce was elite

processor, elite processor, elite processor, mentally so much more advanced than everybody else. And I think even they are surprised with how mentally advanced he is, both football playbook-wise, football feel-wise, situational kind of understanding. I think the big takeaway that they have right now, Pat, is they don't feel that there is a single part of his game

that holds them back from unloading their whole playbook and that's so rare for a rookie quarterback you know how it is sometimes you you give them 20 through you hey we're going to pare down our game plan for the young kid there's not a single thing it's actually the opposite they honestly think that because he's so good mentally they can expand their playbook to what it has been. And that's kind of taken them by surprise. Very abnormal for a rookie quarterback, obviously. As we go to tone, the Pittsburgh Steelers didn't even have hot, hot. Yeah.

With Kenny Pickett in his first year last year. Professional football, no hots with a subpar offensive line. Yeah. That's how slow they wanted to take it up. Wait, that's a fact? Yeah. I think Muth said something like that, yeah. Dan, that's what we were watching last year.

I'm freaking back. With a subpar offensive line, Dan, too. You know what I mean? Like, you need the hot. That's even more reason. That's the purpose of it, actually. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, but allegedly.

I've lived that, though. I've lived that, dude. Like, I've lived that. I've lived that life where your coach is like no we're just not going to have hots and if if you feel pressure throw it to the flat i've had that before man and it's so deflating it's so defeating dude i had real quick before tone asks you a question i had a situation where we would take our game plan i don't know if I've shared you guys this story, but we would take the game plan, the first and second down game plan. And usually like I've been on teams like a Gary Kubiak or Sean McVay,

your first and second down game plan could be 200 plays, right? And then you would get into your situational game plan, which would be on third and two to three or third and four or less. We've got eight plays, third and four to six or whatever, four or less, we've got eight plays. Third and four to six or whatever, five to six, we've got eight plays. Seven to ten, six plays, ten plus, whatever. I've been in a situation where you watch film and be like, hey coach, can we kind of, can we add this to our third down and four to six package? I think, you know, given what the defense is going to do,

this would be a really good play. And the coach would be like, well, if you want to add that one, you got to take one out. And we would be like, no, we just want to add it. So like, we, we like this. We want to keep the other ones. And he's like, no, we're not like, we're only going to, we're only going to have six this week.

And we're all like, it's one more play. We're only going to have six this week, and we're all like, it's one more play. So that coaching mindset of hindering kind of a comfort level blows my mind. Well, good news, good news. Same offense coordinator this year. Matt Canada will still be leading the offense for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tone Diggs has a question for you, Dan. I've already ruined my day enough about the Steelers, so I can't ask a question about them.

Good. That's smart. Hey, look at you. That's maturity. With the comparison to the Colts, how could you not be over the moon? No, this is good. They don't even have... I'm actually kind of disgusted that we are being in the same tier as a team that is not having hots

for their quarterback, actually. Now that I think about it, I should have been offended. Yeah, you should have been. I mean, unbelievable. After what I just heard here. Yeah, we're all offended. Wow. Everyone's offended.

People are looking for reasons to be offended. I mean, I can certainly find one. Feels like kind of a dumb question because he has done this and has been doing Super Bowl, but that was under McVay. Is Jared Goff still or a good enough quarterback to win the NFC and go to the Super Bowl, but that was under McVay. Is Jared Goff still or a good enough quarterback to win the NFC and go to the Super Bowl? Yes, because of the situation that he's in. I still think that Jared is one of the most naturally pure throwers I've ever been around. He's just one of those guys that you have to protect if Jared's protected and he will be in

Detroit he can throw it just as good as anybody in that conference because of the natural ability that he has like you you can do a lot of different and Jared's game of throwing the ball between 10 and 25 yards like that intermediate range it's pure man it's really good i think detroit's offensive line should be a top three unit jameer gibbs i honestly believe is going to be north of 1500 yards from scrimmage pushing 2 000 yards there was people that were mad that he got drafted oh yeah still are there's people mad he got drafted marks dude i think he's just going to be used in such a i think he's going to be a Debo Samuel type of player. That's the way that they'll use him.

And that makes it so – he's going to catch four screens a game for 50-plus yards. So put that, you know, in the books for Jared Goff. Yeah, I think so. Just because of the confidence Jared has right now too. Like, you know, that first year in Detroit, I know just in conversation with them was tough. It was tough to have, think about it, like you got Sean McVay moving on from you, you know, one of the most respected minds and leaders

in the NFL saying not good enough for me anymore. And whether that was Sean's feelings or not, that's definitely the public perception. And that was the perception that Jared had, you know, of like, dang, this coach, you know, moved on from me within 24 months of going to the Super Bowl or whatever what it was. I think Jared, if you took Jared and he was in Tampa Bay, I would not feel that way. But because of the situation that he's in, the play car, Ben Johnson, the talent that he has around him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think he's good enough. Absolutely.

How about that? A couple years ago, Tampa wins a Super Bowl. Now, Dan's like, because he's in Detroit, absolutely. How about that? A couple years ago, Tampa wins a Super Bowl. Now, Dan's like, because he's in Detroit, I feel good about it. Good for Detroit, man. Let's go, Dan. So let's be clear.

This is the year the Detroit Lions are going to go 10-7 and win a playoff game. Is that what you're saying to me right now? Oh, I absolutely think 10-7 is the bar. I honestly think 10-7, you'd sit there and be like, man, let's let Game 2 go away. Okay.

Whoa. This is standard now. No longer a dream. Nah, nah. This is what we're doing around here. Game or 10. Game or 2. That means 12-5.

I think Detroit's going to be really good this year. I think that Campbell kid's going to very much surprise people. I've said this. Philly's the team to beat in the NFC. There's no doubt about that. San Francisco is right there. And then I think it's Detroit is the third best team.

Whoa! Let's go! Holy Detroit Rock City. What? Congrats. Except for those new helmets. Fucking stinks. Whoa, whoa. That new logo's awesome. What about that? New helmet stinks. No? Congrats. Except for those new helmets. Fucking stinks. Whoa, whoa. That new logo's awesome. Put them on everything. Sweet.

New helmet stink. No, no. New logos are awesome. Put them on everything. Yeah, I love it. Shorts, hats, helmets, jerseys. One of Dan's kids drew it. Yeah, which is cool.

Yeah. I don't love the lion on it, and I would have. So the lion. That's awesome. Look at that everywhere. That's the skinniest lion I've ever seen. It's sick. awesome. Look at that everywhere. It's the skinniest lion I've ever seen. It's sick. Yeah, look at that thing. It's a fit.

It's an ozempic lion. I wish the face masks were white as well. I don't like the gray face masks. They're wearing a gray jersey, Dan. I wish the players were white with inside of them. I wish the mask was white. We get it, Dan. High black was white. We get it, Dan. We get it.

Okay, geez Louise. That thing's going to go viral. It's a Friday. It's a Friday. And who cares? That whole helmet hitting the internet and I've been learning a lot about this particular guy too. Feels like a guy you want

in your camp. I watched his standard day for him, and I don't know if that's just bullshit or not. I feel like it's not. You watch it, though, you could think, there's no way this human's doing this every single day. And then you look at him. He has eight-pack.

Properly jock. Properly jock. Seemingly just all in on football. Carries around the jug. It doesn't care. Always hydrated. Golfing with the boys a little bit. Carries around the jug. Yep. It doesn't care. Always hydrated. Golfing with the boys a little bit. Great singer in the rookie, you know, showcase.

Yeah. Good. Feels like this is a guy you want on your team. So congrats to the Lions finding him. But if what you're saying about Goff still having it in MCDC, they lose Deuce Staley, right? Deuce Staley went down to Carolina. Yep.

I don't know how much that was for tone and culture setting, but I'm sure they'll get past that. But what a time to be a Detroit Lions fan. Good for you guys. Ty has a question for you, Dano. Yeah, Dan, sticking in the NFC North, all the stuff we've seen come out of Green Bay with, you know, all of these guys kind of endorsing Jordan Love.

And Pat made a good point. He kind of said, you know, like, there's a difference between – I mean, guys aren't just going to come out and say, hey he stinks or whatever but guys are actively getting on camera and saying hey this is QB1 he's the guy when you look at all of that stuff what do you think a realistic ceiling is for Jordan Love and the Packers this year I still think they're a playoff football team hell yeah um I still I feel like this is a team that's gone to the NFC title game two out of the last four years. Their defense is littered with talent. I think if the defense, and I've said this, Ty, they've got to stop playing so soft.

And I don't mean that like I'm scared to hit people. I mean, it's like you give us so much free yardage to attack you offensively. Playing eight yards off on third and three. Totally, dude. And I can't imagine being a Packers fan sitting there going, seriously? yardage to attack you offensively playing eight yards off on third and three totally dude and i can't imagine being a packers fan sitting there going seriously like and they're talented enough to not do that so um i think that they've got to start way more having an attacking mindset on defense but um i you know i think one of the more fascinating question marks um is like what if what if jordan's good?

No, we don't really know, but he was a first-round pick three years ago. This guy wasn't a sixth-round pick that they're just tanking with, so to speak. What happens if Jordan Love's really good? What happens if the Packers and Brian Gunnickoots got it right, and he's one of those picks that a lot of people maybe misjudged or got impatient with or something like what happens if this dude comes out in three years of sitting and watching and throws for 30 plus touchdowns and 10 less interceptions hell yeah we're talking about like what dude with it with the young talent they have on offense that scheme always gets quarterbacks to play better

than their maybe their talent level should kind of afford them to i think it's like one of the great unknowns if jordan love is good like if jordan love is good the packers are absolute players in the nfc yeah i think so too we've actually broached that subject a little bit because as we move forward into the jordan love era and you listen everybody that's seeing him on the practice field, we're not seeing him on the practice field. We're not seeing him in the team meeting room. We're not seeing him in the training room.

We're not seeing him in the locker room. All the people, though, that have seen him there have made their way to microphones to let people know, like, hey, everything you potentially could need to be a guy, this guy has it. We see him against Philly. You know what I mean? See him in that him against philly you know what i mean see him in the play against philly with the videos we see out of camp the way he has handled this whole

situation dan this whole which he got dropped into the middle of not his fault at all i mean but from day one maybe the first three minutes after he got drafted he got to celebrate it yeah yeah with his family you remember very happy, probably three minutes. And then he opens his phone, text messages from people, maybe five minutes, how happy they are. Then he goes to social media, and all it is is, why the fuck did we draft Jordan Love? What the hell?

This guy, why is he here? And then all of a sudden, just boom. Like, there is almost an implosion while success is still happening. The way he has handled this all, I think all of us have found to be very admirable and then if he can go out and ball that's good for guti too oh yeah because guti kun you know like this is his team now there's a chance it's gonna be the next 15 years over there and i think packers fans are obviously hoping for it but i think it's a

potential like especially with everything we've seen and heard from Jordan. So shout out to him, man. Yeah, I think the point of what the teammates have said was really good. You made that point like last week, and it made me just hearing you talk about it now. Remember when Tyreek Hill last year said like, oh, man, the most accurate quarterback I've ever played with was Tua, and we were all like, shut up, blah, blah, blah, and that. Before Tua got hurt, it was the number one pass offense in the NFL.

And Tyreek was being – remember the question was, is Tyreek Hill going to go for 2,000 yards this year? They were the number one pass offense in the NFL. So to your point, when these guys make statements that are unnecessary, but they're seeing them on the field, maybe it's less smoke and more reality in their eyes. I think that's not necessary is a good way to describe it. Yeah.

Because, like, when Pac-Man came out here and said, if this team does this, I'll shave my head, it was like, that's not necessary. You don't have to do that. Like, you just went out of your way to say that. Like, there's no – why would you put yourself in that position? You didn't say it off air. Nope. Literally just waited until a microphone.

I'll shake my head, you know, and it was like, not necessary. All these things that they're saying, they don't want to be on the record as saying like, this guy's good and not, you know what I mean?

I just feel like all vibes are good out of there. We appreciate you joining us, Dan. What do you got this weekend? A lot of lacrosse, huh? We've been with some twine. Yeah,

we got a lacrosse tournament in Massachusetts. So we drive up there tonight. You guys are screwed. Connor said the Mass boys are probably going to beat the hell out of you. It's in Devin's Mass, Connor. That's not a real place. That's Western Mass. That place doesn't exist.

Well, they don't want to go over to it. No, you don't. He's signing up for Western Mass. Yeah, you go down to the South Shore, the North Shore, your boys are going to be leaving bloody. So hold on one second. They beat the doors off of Laxachusetts last weekend, but no big deal. Oh! A little inside baseball here.

Laxachusetts hasn't been a premier team in New England in a long time. Next time you guys play Nestle Black, let me know. Yeah, we'll find out. We'll talk about all these whites battling each other in a sport that only some people know about. Whatever we're talking about, you're not allowed to coach your kids, right? In lacrosse, no. I'm fighting for it for next year, but this year I was not allowed to.

It's like a state law or something you said. Now, so this tournament, you're just going to go drink wine, get hammered, booze up in western Massachusetts. Is that what the weekend looks like? The first game's at 8.50 in the morning, so I don't think we'll be drinking wine. Sorry, it's crackheads out west. They'll be taking wine. It's alright. The crackhead's out west. They'll let it slide. It's not wine. Whiskey? Whiskey. Yeah, we're burying Western Massachusetts. I don't know

anybody. I couldn't even tell you what that means. I don't think it's in Western Massachusetts. I think Devon's is like 20 minutes north of Boston. 30 minutes north of Boston. You might be thinking of Danvers, if that's where it is? No, it's in Devon's Mass, like the military base. Once again, I do not know where Devon's is.

It's near Marlboro. Oh, okay. Sweet. Why'd you murder Western Mass? Western Mass is a fake place. It doesn't actually exist. People from Western Mass will tell you. It's in Worcester County. It is Western Mass.

Devon's is in Worcester? It's like the center of the state. It's in Worcester County. Yeah, so it is Western Mass. Devins is in Worcester? It's like the center of the state. Yeah. It's an hour away from Boston. It's an hour from Boston. Just like Foxborough, Western Mass. Yeah, that's West. But it is North Shore. Yeah, out there by

fucking Fitchburg. Give me a break. That's not a real place. They would agree. They would agree. They would agree. They would. All right. Well, good luck out there. Hope the boys win.

Hope you get a dub. Tell the family you said hello. You look good. You've been working out still or what? Getting ready for the season? What? Every day, bud. What do you do?

You do the Peloton, right? I did a 45- minute peloton boot camp today with tunday absolutely destroyed my life yeah that's one of the teachers that you like tweet like hey thanks for is that that yeah i don't think i've ever or maybe i have once or twice tunday not a long time it was a good one tunday doesn't deserve a tweet some other people get them though i see you out to sun hey thank you for kicking my ass this morning. Needed it. Yeah, you know, is that Tunde?

Tunde whipped me this morning, yeah. Tunde know you exist? You ever meet Tunde? I have not met Tunde, so probably not. Hey, Tunde, you're really doing it to this kid. You're really. Tunde! Let's go.

Tunde said, how you doing, Dan Orlovsky? 45-minute advanced full-body boot camp. Damn. So what does that mean? Off the bike. You're standing? You start on the bike, and then you go down to the floor, and then you're back on the bike or down to the floor.

So it's like 10, 12 minutes of stuff. It was good. I didn't know I'd do that. I didn't know there was a get off the bike, get back on the bike. Oh, yeah. I think that's my favorite thing is like because it's a little – you're not on the bike for an extended period of time. You're like, my butt's starting to hurt.

Yeah. Yeah, I can't do the seat. I don't do good on those bikes. Good question here by Zito. So you guys are clacking in your rooms getting off the bike with those shoes on? Yeah. So you get off, cl in your rooms, getting off the bike with those shoes on? Yeah. So you get off, clack, clack, clack. Well, the floor, we have like a, one of the

floors, it's like a softer gym floor. You know, like it's the surface that is made for it. What are you doing, push-ups? You're doing push-ups down there? Yeah, sometimes. I'm not great at push-ups, long arms, the chest of an 11-year-old, so a bunch of different stuff. Weights, all kinds of stuff. You're doing weights with those clack-clacks on? No, you just, the chest of an 11-year-old. So a bunch of different stuff. Weights, all kinds of stuff.

You're doing weights with those clack-clacks on? No, you just take the shoes off. The shoes are like the kind of like the, like, kind of the, it's no tie. So it slides into like a click, click, click, click, click, almost like a helmet does nowadays. Like, I guess a grid, grid or whatever. So you take those off and throw sneakers on for like the floor stuff. All right.

Well, I'm happy too. I did that to you. You look good. You can try it out. I can't. My butt doesn't do the seat. I got a, you know, massive ass. It gets, you know.

I've been meaning to say that to you, but. Hell yeah. Hey, remember, 82 and a half. Good luck. 82 and a half. I play on Wednesday morning. All right. Let's not be lying. okay? Kids are watching. Ladies and gentlemen, it's for charity. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlowski.

Yeah, Dan! Joining us now from an attic in Ohio, a man who is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion. He's the current champion of Ohio. They call him Mr. President from Centerville, Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, COVID survivor, father of 10,

the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers and golf sandbagger, A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk, how you doing, Paul? How you doing? How you doing? Doing great. You guys just swimming in cash from the NBA draft last night? Is that what's going on?

A.J. Come on. This guy's got jokes today, huh? Doing great. You guys just swimming in cash from the NBA draft last night? Is that what's going on? Hey, Jay. Come on. This guy's got jokes today, huh? How to make fun of us poor people. I'm not making fun of anybody. I'm honestly wondering. I didn't get to see much of it. Yesterday was making fun of everyone for going to the hospital

because they got hit by flying rocks. Yeah, I didn't make fun of anybody for that. Yeah, you did. Oh, you go to the hospital for that? Not in Ohio. That would never happen. Just real quick, though. It sounds like me.

Kind of. But we don't need you coming in here doing what you just did and dunking on Shams at the same time. Okay, Woj did enough dunking. Was I dunking on him? Yeah, I'd say. I think so. Yeah.

I wasn't on when Shams was on, so I don't know exactly what he even told you guys. You do know what he said. What happened, though? For real, what happened in the draft? Why did it not happen? So Shams got it completely wrong. It was big news, and we think he was potentially obviously led astray.

That is why he took a big swing. And this is going to happen in the insider game. And Woj, who obviously first time on the show a couple days ago, who knows if he'll ever be back on again, he dunks on Shams immediately afterwards. He goes, all along, no debate. Anybody that says to the contrary doesn't know that the entire Charlotte Hornets organization has been all in on Brandon Miller. Ownership, front office, scouts, coaches, you name it.

They see him as perennial future all-star player. Brandon Miller out of Alabama. Great shooter of the basketball. Obviously, what Shams said yesterday was Scoot was going number two. And he said it very confidently. Came on the show early. Yeah, broke the hearts of Charlotte. Hey, just got the idea.

All of Charlotte thought Scoot Henderson, out of two years in the G League, was coming to the Charlotte Hornets last night. And in the arena, they had a watch party. Hey, the entire Hornets organization, we're selling to a new owner. We might get a new superstar in here. This might become the new era of the Charlotte Hornets. Welcome to the team, Scoot.

Seemingly is what everybody in Charlotte felt. Here's a clip out of their watch party that the Charlotte Hornets were hosting. The team was hosting in their arena. The Charlotte Hornets, we. The team was hosting in their arena. Scattering of boos, some applause, obviously, some yells. I assume that person works for the Hornets right there, dressed up that well. I'm going to say there's a couple of positives, but the best part is the mascot going, God damn it.

Brandon Miller's coming to the team that I have to wear a costume for. That whole head drop, oh no. Kind of let anybody in there know, if you were wondering if we're supposed to be happy or not, God damn it. This is not what we thought. Allegedly, the internet said that there was maybe some conflicting concepts of what the team should look like going ahead under the new ownership while still without the deal being signed under Jordan's ownership. Allegedly, that's what took place.

Nonetheless, Shams got it wrong. We all lost a lot of money because we obviously bet on it because we got good faith in Shams. And we weren't the only ones. A lot of people at home did the same thing. And you and your little fucking bullshit comes in here and goes, bet on it because we got good faith in Chomps and we weren't the only ones. A lot of people at home did the same thing and you and your little fucking bullshit comes in here and goes

how'd you guys do last night? How'd you guys do last night? Hey, you guys don't take a shovel in the backyard dig a big hole and dump a bunch of fucking money into it last night. That's pretty much what you just said to us coming onto the show. That's not how we want this Feel Good Friday to start. Not at all. That is not how we want the

Thunderdome vibes to be. That's what you said though. Hey, pal, did you get a big enough shovel last night to dump your money into it? Is that what you said when you came in here? I was curious. I sent you a text earlier and said, did everything come true like we thought? You're a prick. I'm not.

If this shot goes in, but it did seem like, if this shot goes in, but it did seem like if this shot goes in, I'll forgive you. Uh-oh. And you make a lot of your shots, so, yeah, I feel good about it. Sorry. Bummer. Sorry.

Let's do this now that we don't like each other forever. This one, too. Hang up on him. Definitely hate him if it goes in. Oh, sorry. I don't want to, AJ. It's the universe Oh there it is

Oh man Hate AJ day Oh no Now it's fuck off AJ Friday Each shot is for all of us AJ you ruined my shooting perception That's why the submarine didn't come back up either Cause you missed the shot

Don't be making jokes It never went down to be honest with you. It exploded immediately. Well, at one point it ended up done. Yeah. It did reach its destination. We're still friends, AJ. Nope. You suck.

Guess not, shit face. Even Jabba. This is Jabba's shot. Oh, hey, T2. Jeez. Alright. That's a shame. God, we had such a good run. What do we do now? What do we do?

Why'd you do that, AJ? We know what you're doing. You did this. This is your doing. What do we do? What were the ratings like for the draft? Do you think the ratings were off the chart? It feels like people were into it.

All right. I like the mood he's in. I'm serious. All right, AJ. What's up? I don't know why you're in. I'm serious. All right, AJ. What's up? I don't know why you're laughing. I'm not joking. We might have Michael Lombardi on later today, too.

I assume you saw his take on it. He was certainly questioning a lot of the decisions that were made by ESPN during the NBA draft coverage, both on the show, who was on the show, and how they went about doing the show. But I think what a lot of us didn't know is there was an ABC broadcast as well. I had no idea. So I watched the ESPN broadcast, had a lot of questions about everything that was going on. Then I saw these photos of Stephen A. in a pink suit.

I'm like, oh, Stephen must be doing digital stuff for, like, Stephen A.'s show. That was on ABC, actually. So I think we all watched potentially the wrong one because we want the ESPN. ABC had great coverage, right, Fox? Yeah, it was awesome. It was Kevin DeGande, Stephen A. Smith, and they weren't doing specifically draft stuff. They were only covering the players that were drafted.

So you might miss some picks, but you got to learn about their families, the players, and all that stuff. So it was a little different angle. I actually enjoyed it. Anytime Stephen A. is on a microphone, I'm going to watch. He was great. I was pissed that I didn't see Stephen A. I didn't even know they were doing that over there. I should have to watch. Like, he was great. I was pissed that I didn't see Stephen A.

Right. I didn't even know they were doing that over there. I should have, though. I had no idea, though. I didn't see anything about it. And, like, the ESPN broadcast, Say What You Want, if you muted it and watched something else while it was on, it was pretty good.

Say what you want. He said, say what you want. Say what you want. What is your problem? No, that's what I did, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The ticker information, stuff like that, really good. I would just glance down. There was good interviews on there. JJ was on there.

I know JJ had to deal with some shrapnel. Yeah, JJ, you're an average shooter or whatever. JJ, pretty good shooter. Yeah, I'd say. That was one thing he's played like 15, 14 years in the NBA. Someone said that? All-time winning scorer for Duke and the entire ACC for a little bit. He's 19th all-time in three-point shooting, I guess, in the NBA. Someone said that? All-time winning scorer for Duke and the entire ACC for a little bit. He's 19th all-time in three-point shooting, I guess, in the NBA.

That's not bad. Only like 10,000 guys have played in the NBA. Not that we're like going to bat. We don't – J.J. Redick, we're cool with J.J., but it's not like we're going to bat for him. Like that was a hilarious thing to be told right on live TV, you know, by somebody that's on a desk with you. But also I think, like, cool with the desk and everybody that's there,

but can we get, like, a coach or a GM or somebody that's been a part of a draft, which I think Lombardi, Michael Lombardi was kind of talking about. And Michael Lombardi's not an NBA guy, although he knows a lot of NBA people and everything like that. It was just, like, the decision of how they went about going and doing it, I think a lot of us had some questions about. But, hey, it happened. Yeah.

Scoot did not go to. Nope. We all lost money. But Wemby crying showed me even more about why I like this. Really cool. A lot of people would try to be too cool in that situation. They knew he was going to be the number one overall pick since he's like 14 years old pretty much.

So then when he becomes the number one overall pick and it happens and he gets emotional it's like this guy seems to be the perfect human for any league let alone any sport being one of the biggest ones in the world the NBA league so I'm really happy this guy's coming into our sports life I think that's why I took away from last night. And him saying, I've been dreaming since I'm like 12 years old or whatever to hear the words that that guy said, Adam Silver said. So him getting emotional about it was cool. And I think us learning more

and more about this guy, Wemby, it was an awesome part of the NBA draft. But aside from that, this will be the one I'll forever remember for losing a lot of money on. Because I thought we had a good issue. That did happen. But, you know, Wem we found out, you know, he's a big space guy and a big aliens guy, which is also cool

and something that we can carry away. We paid to learn that. That's right. That was what our bet was. We just kind of tipped the corner for giving us the information that Wemby actually says, I like this color, you know, because space, alien, I'm an alien. You know, and everybody's like, look at him like is that what he said yeah yeah it's pretty sweet

he's like i'm i'm an alien yeah his brother's also like seven feet as well sister of six one she plays professional basketball a lot of people talking about her on the internet last night joining us now is an insider who might be able to explain what happened to shams and has he been in that position before? Senior NFL insider for the NFL, the NFL's network, the NFL's website, and the NFL streaming service, NFL Boss. Host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends, us being friends, he being Rap Sheet, ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rap.

Yay! Hey, thank you for joining us. What's up? Happy Friday. Happy Friday, bub. Happy Friday to you. Appreciate it. You too. Obviously, as you know, big day in the Rapid Board household today.

Very, very big day. What's that? Why is that? Kids are off. What do you mean? Wow. Send them to Fiji. Is that what you're talking about?

Summer camp time? See you later. Last day of school. They're on the campus. They are currently riding to Fiji on a bus because that's obviously the way you go to Fiji. No tears except for me and Leah. And that's it. How long? Seven week camp.

We see him out. Whoa. Seven weeks. Was there one parents' day? Yeah, one visiting day, yeah. One visiting day, which is like four hours total. Seven weeks they're going off. And they aren't going to miss us at all, by the way.

It's great. It's like a carnival. It's the best. No, I concur. Hey, I've learned about this through you and that this happens with people. A lot of humans do this. I do feel, I've heard, I've learned that a lot of people do this. They're going into the woods though, right, for seven weeks learning how to do like human stuff. He's going to play a lot of sports, a lot of nature, might do some water skiing. I think Max has a three-day hike that he's going to go on at some point. There's a lot.

Archery, maybe do some archery. How old? A lot of good stuff. Jude is eight and Max is almost ten. Eight and ten. Seven weeks. See ya. Three-day hike for a ten-year-old?

Do they have the blob in? Is the blob there? Yeah, go-karts? Oh, the blob is definitely there. For those who don't know, that's like a water blob. Heavyweights. Yeah, we've seen it. Do you get to do it on Parents' Day? Do you get to do

the blob? Yeah. Are you getting blobbed or are you doing the blobbing? Oh, boy. He froze. How can you guys... I don't understand. I'm home. Is it your internet? Yeah, sure. He froze. How can you guys... I don't understand. I'm home. Is it your internet? Yeah. Okay, sure. Yeah, probably ours.

I'm literally home. Anyway, I did the blog on Parents' Day. It was amazing. So you did the blobbing or you got blobbed, right? You got blobbed. I did a lot of the blobbing, I would say. No, you got blobbed. We were getting blobbed all day.

There's two different lines. isn't there, for that? Oh, yeah. It's like the... Sorry, sir. Too tall for this ride. Exactly. Too short for this line. Isn't there a get blobbed or do the blobbing line?

Two different places, right? Yeah. Which one's more fun? Well, you and I only have one opportunity, and that is we are doing the blob. Getting tossed into the water is a lot of fun. I guess I was blobbed. Yeah, I guess I was blobbed.

You're a get blobbed guy, not a blobbing guy. See, but that seems offensive when you say it like that. I was fine until you said it like that. Now I'm not. What are you talking about, dude? You get blobbed all the time. Offensive would be like getting blobbed off. But you did get blobbed off because they're doing the blobbing.

You get blobbed off. Ian Rappaport getting blobbed off all summer. Yeah. By some big son of a bitch from New England. Big bastards blobbing him off all summer long. He's flying. Ah! Boo-boo.

Boo-boo. Boo-boo-boo-boo. All right. Let's dive in. He's flying. Ah! Beep, boop. Beep, boop. Beep, boop. Beep, boop. Beep, boop. All right. Let's dive in. Ian, happy to hear you survived getting blobbed off so hard in the woods. Jeez Louise. Thank God.

Anything can happen out there. You know, this year do the blobbing maybe, and maybe you can blob somebody else off. You know what I'm talking about? Let's dive into sports. Maybe change some roles. Sure. Let's talk about sports, yeah.

Dalvin Cook. a lot of media. Okay, we need to put in a request to talk to him, Stat. He did NFL Series XM where he hinted at going to some place to help them get to the next chapter, which means sounds like to us the way he was talking, like maybe take a little bit less money. Also talked about Miami, going to Miami, enjoying that. What are you hearing on the front from the team

side of this? Because it feels like from the Dalvin Cook side, very comfortable, very confident, understands what's going to take place, who he is. From the team side, are we hearing the same thing? Who's all in? Yeah, I mean, first of all, it is interesting he's done media. DeAndre Hopkins did a bunch of media too. These guys

are both, I'd say, probably really good at it. So usually when a guy's a free agent and he's doing a lot of media, I These guys are both, I'd say, probably really good at it. So usually when a guy's a free agent and he's doing a lot of media, I'm like, that's not great because, you know, you never know if you could hurt your leverage by saying something. Both these guys are very good, and I think they've come off really well and probably have been well prepared. The thought of taking less money, interesting,

because let's say it's, you know, Broncos and Dolphins are kind of one that, you know, I've heard mentioned. I think both those teams have been interested. We're interested in potentially trading for them. But what if it's a team like, like, let's say the Jets. Let's say the Jets are looking for a final piece. You know, maybe Brees Hall is coming back from his ACL, which he is. Maybe take a little bit less there and just go help them

win a Super Bowl. Like when you're Dalvin Cook and this is a third contract and you've already made a lot of money, you could maybe take a little, say a million or two million less and just say like, I'm just going to go take a one-year deal. I'm going to try to win. And then if I play well, then I can cash the following year. Like some of that, and I'm not saying it's the Jets, but some of that makes sense.

All right. Hey, we're going to call you right back. We got your whole answer there just a little blobby. A little bit. A little bit blobby there. Dalvin at the Jets. I mean, Shefty said it the other day. It's like, why not?

Why don't they do that? It's something like, why not? You know, why wouldn't? But the Miami Dolphins also. You know, he's a Miami legend down there. Why not bring in Dalvin Cook into Miami? Yeah, I mean, it seems like the Jets thing is almost too good to be true, and it's kind of like all roads are pointing to that.

But like you mentioned, if you've already made a bunch of money and you want to go win a Super Bowl and kind of do this whole super team thing, why wouldn't you? I mean, New York's not bad either. How much money is enough money? Not enough money. What's the line from Lil Wayne? The prophet?

Whatever the case. He says something. There's some people that have that mindset too. Like, yeah, I'll take a haircut. Never. Let me go ahead and get as much money as possible because this is how long my work can be in this whole body is my tool career.

Joining us back again, Ian Rappaport. Ian, you mentioned, there it is. Hey, oh, good angle. What's the angle? Good angle here. You look fantastic. Well, I did it off the computer. I'm on phone now.

Computer, I was not happy with the performance. I moved on. Oh, we thought you were holding your computer up right now. That is something that we really thought was taking place. But like uh sean payton he changed the entire offensive line right yeah and he probably wants to make the running game a lot different he's probably very interested in dalvin cook is there any other teams though sean payton miami maybe the jets have you heard any like material offers and does dalvin Cook even looking for those right now? I mean, as far as like official offers, I'm not 100% sure because really like you're only going to make an official offer when you believe that the signing is imminent, right?

Like, and I think for Dalvin Cook, it does help him to wait. Similar to what we said about Hopkins, like waiting is your friend, right? Because you never know what can happen. I mean, I hate to say this, obviously, but you never know what can happen i mean i hate to say this obviously but you never know what can happen in summer training is there an is there a a need that's created if someone has an injury signing now doesn't help at all really um but those are three i would probably keep an eye on um i think if there were others we probably would know about it i know there's other interests but i'm talking about about like real, real, real, real significant interests. Those are probably ones to keep an eye on.

All right, Dalvin, come to Indianapolis if you want, pal. We'll give you whatever. Yeah, whatever. We're going to go on a run. We've got a pretty good runner over there. Go ahead, AJ. Ian, I know we talk about like the time frame on when any of this could happen. Like for Dalvin Cook, is he going to sign before camp somewhere?

Could sign before camp. I mean, there's like three or four days before camp when we could sign before camp i mean there's like a you know three or four days before camp when we do get some transactions so i think you know that would make sense and if he gets a deal he wants going in and like you know teams like this you know some teams would do like big extensions right before camp some will have like a couple signings they'll save for right like having the feel-good optimism momentum of bringing in a really good player, like all of that helps because camp is long and camp is really hard. That timing makes sense. But I think if you're doubt, so for a team that makes sense.

If you're Dalvin, it makes sense if you get the right offers. If it's not perfect, then like really the only thing that matters is getting ready for the season. So like usually, you know know 10 years ago you'd be like oh we you know you'd like him to play in a preseason game now like i don't even know if he would anyway so team it might make sense for teams to get him signed early for dalvin for deandre hopkins like it it really doesn't matter as long as you get there with plenty of time to be healthy enough and in shape for the season the timing is kind of whatever it is yeah depending upon the money and they've already gotten to the point where the

money's probably going to be about the same no matter when they get the deal done that's it was crazy they missed that first wave of money you know you kind of get caught up on the back end who knows where it pans out but deop can come to the colts as well ty has a question for you rap yeah rap sheet with all the dalvin cook stuff it seems like everything with zeke elliott's kind of just gotten buried um we heard that there's a chance you know maybe he goes back to dallas for like league men or something like that but then they're also throwing around the chiefs and the eagles are we going to hear anything about him anytime soon or is he looking like you know if someone gets hurt in camp like that's probably where he's going to wind up. I mean, I do think return to the Cowboys would make sense. I think it's pretty clear that, you know, like you're talking about the money for that

Doblin Cook is going to get. I think, you know, Miles Sanders got six million as the highest paid free agent running back. And obviously, like if one of those franchise tag running back gets a deal, that'll be higher. But, you know, I would expect doblin to be around that maybe a little higher than say like what miles sanders got with zeke elliott way different story right like he's already gotten paid i think based on what he put on the field last year the money's going to be lower so then it's really his decision it's like does he want to go back to the cowboys where he is loved? He'll have a little

bit of a different role. That's not easy for everyone, right? I mean, Tony Pollard is going to be, whether he gets paid or not, Pollard is going to be the guy. So it's not going to be a lot of money, but he'll be back in Dallas. Or then it's like, you know, I mean, one of those contenders, like you mentioned, could take a look at him, but it's going to be low so if it's going to be low like going back to dallas to me considering that they're probably going to be good probably makes a little more sense but yeah i mean that'd be one route i think right before camp is probably the timing mike mccarthy's going to run the ball more too yeah you know he's been pretty open about that he kind of has to i believe and i could see that your shoulders are maybe

starting to get a little bit activated as you're holding that phone up you know put a couple ounces in that hand forearm yeah everyone shoulders are relaxed I'm relaxed up here maybe you should use your bigger muscles right now use your bigger muscles

maybe try to hold it with your back somehow use your right hand I can't do it no no no maybe you should sit on your it with your back somehow. You know what I mean? Use your right hand. I can't do it. No, no, no, no. Maybe you should sit on your left hand and have it fall asleep. Yeah. Put it in there and then just call it the stranger. It's like a stranger. It's like we're interviewing a stranger.

Whose head is that? Not familiar with what you're talking about. Connor has a question for you, pal. Yeah, Rapshita. All of a sudden we're seeing stuff that officially they are deciding on the commander's sale. What's that about? And is that what the July 20th meeting is? I think I saw you tweet earlier on. Yeah, like pretty significant, like really, really significant. We now have a date,

July 20th. Teams were notified this morning that there's going to be a league meeting, special league meeting on July 20th. So special that the only thing on the docket is literally just this. So it's the $6.05 billion sale of the Washington Commanders from Dan Snyder to Josh Harris. Basically, what's going to happen here is they're going to, it's, you know, going through, or will have gone through by that point, the finance committee. It will be presented. If it is going to be presented, which it will, it'll be a deal that'll be approved, which it will. So basically what's going to happen here is it'll be officially and finalized. The owners will vote on the sale of the Commanders, which, as we've talked about, is going to get approved because it doesn't get to this point unless it's a yes. So, like, we've done this a couple of times.

There's been a couple like congratulations, Josh Harris. Goodbye, Dan Snyder. This will be the last and final and biggest like a really, really, really consequential day. Alright, congrats to Commander's Band! Still got a new name, but got new ownership. Here we go!

Let's go! What's that? Will Dan be there for that meeting? Like, they give him like a cake and stuff, saying like, hey, thanks for your time. What do you think, they're telling him to sit in a corner while this guy has to make a vote? I don't know if they're doing that, right? There ain't no – you said cake. I didn't know – what's that? I'm trying to remember.

Obviously, Broncos was a different story. Carolina – no, I don't think he would be there. Well, and did the new owners have no say in the draft then in Snyder? How did that work? With the draft, did the new owners have any say in the draft then and Snyder like how did that with the draft did the new owners have any say in the draft no no no that's kind of what happened in Charlotte yeah exactly oh an owner at a time so basically like the the new owners like did someone give them a heads up like maybe but I didn't get the sense they real they were not involved in the conversations like maybe they

got a text before but they were that was Dan Snyder's regime, I guess. Well, congrats to the Commanders fans and Josh Harrison. Magic. Yeah. Max Johnson now out in the NFL. He wins everywhere. If he can get the Commanders to a Super Bowl, that would be his biggest feat yet. Well, yeah.

He's had a few others. Yeah, he's accomplished some real stuff. biggest feat yet. Well, yeah. Right below. He's accomplished some real stuff. Just because we're on this and it got brought up, Shams yesterday came on our show. Took a big piece of lumber, like a telephone pole,

and he took a big old hack. We're talking swinging once he hit it out of the park, if it doesn't go out of the park, it's not a home run. Scoot Henderson's going number two. Shut down the sports books. Shut them down immediately, all of them. Boom, odds flipped completely from plus 140

to like minus 900 real quick within like a five-minute period. That's some real say. That's some real sway. What he said, because he works for FanDuel TV, FanDuel's actually had to come out and say, we are not privy to the information that Shams has whenever he breaks it we are learning this as it goes and obviously whenever he said this we all bet pretty mightily because Shams plugged in you're an insider I assume this type of situation has happened to

you before this is just a part of the game and how do you think it kind of took place um I was obviously following that very closely i mean i saw on your show and then um was kind of texting with shams after i mean it was this is all really interesting okay and this does unfortunately happen i love shams he doesn't all we all love shams we all love shams um the draft is hard reporting on the draft is so hard because you don't want nobody wants to get jumped. And like teams will say, you know, people talk about like lying season. Sometimes lying is worth it or omitting or misleading is worth it to get the player you want.

I'm not saying that happened here, but I just I know that that happens. The hardest thing is to pin down what's who someone not picking number one is going to take. So remember, we talked about all the time with the Texans, right? I was pretty confident that CJ Straub was going to, and we talked about it, but I kept saying, I do not know. I really and truly didn't know. I didn't know until right before the pick. I was just confident using my deduction and everything I'd learned. I was like, I believe it's going to be CJ, but I don't know. And obviously some other very good people thought the opposite. But the most important thing to me draft wise is to say,

like, I don't know, because unless you know for sure, like, unless the GM is like, Hey, like this is who we're picking. It is impossible. Like I was, I was obviously following that very closely. Unfortunately that happens and it's, it sucks. It's all right. Sean's a bounce back.

Sean's a bounce back, but it certainly was a rough night in the insider game. You guys have to kind of wade through bullshit all the time. I would not envy anybody that is in your seat like at all, but you guys are committed to the game yeah and you have to be like you know you have to be born to be in the nba born to play different positions like i think you have to have a born to be a coach you have to have a trait that's like all right i won't see my family for six months if you want to be an nfl coach and everything like

that like i think you have to have the trait to be an insider because it's a whole different game i mean we're not talking to anybody for like personal reasons right cyber in the way it's like hey how we doing but you have to foster relationships it's uh it's quite a balance you guys have to do and every once in a while now shams never trust that person again that told him i mean i i have not followed up with him because i figured he's got enough to deal with today. Tough day. I think a better question is like, was he misled intentionally or did he take the information? And again, like this has happened, not draft wise,

but this has happened to me in plenty of other places, which we've discussed. Did he take the information that he was given that were hints and maybe turned it into a little too much? I mean, that's, and that's why, like, again why, again, I think this is my 12th year doing this, or 13th. It's been a long time. And the more I've done this, the more I've convinced myself that it's okay to say, like, I don't know.

And that's important because I think for the people following, they should know, like, he's got it or he's just not sure, and this is conjecture. There's some people that I've never heard say they don't know. No, that's right. Nor will they ever say. What do you do with your hands? They do always know.

Tyrone has a question for you. Speaking of GMs and coaches and draft picks and everything like that. Yeah, Ian, being in McDermott, they got an extension today. Is that why Stephon Diggs walked out of the building? He was meeting with being in McDermott, they got an extension today. Is that why Stefan Diggs walked out of the building? He was meeting with being in McDermott, and he said, I'm not practicing until you guys get an extension. I'm fucking out. He was holding out for them.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's very nice of Diggs. That's a complete. Yeah. Isn't it? That's right.

That's a player right there. Yep. I like it. Trying to make sure they get paid. Interestingly enough, talking about things you don't know, these were actually done a couple months ago um but they kind of were you know gm and coach extensions are always kind of odd because i mean obviously those two are not going anywhere but like you can have a coach under contract get an extension and fired the next year i mean

having to quit kingsbury this past year like he's Now he's hanging out at Jay Glazer's house watching Brett Michaels sing, Every rose has its own. And he's still getting paid off his extension. Cliff Kingsbury had it figured out. The example you just said there, perfect. So we get to bring up Cliff Kingsbury, killing it. Keep it going, Cliff.

Rest in peace to Jay's side. Before this, I'd hope to get to a date. I don't think I'm going to be able to make it happen, which is frustrating. Brett Michaels tours all year round. You'll be able to find him. Yeah, AJ's been on stage. He's actually, he played bass for Brett Michaels one time out there.

He helps him fix his skull. I can't tell if it's serious or not. A thousand percent serious. What are you talking about? We got the photo. It's our show. God damn, I'm so jealous. Well, a thousand percent serious. Yep. What are you talking about? We got the photo. It's our show. Yeah. God damn, I'm so jealous. Well, maybe one of these.

Dude, you can maybe get on the Rock of Love bus, too. Oh, man. That's a tall task. Could you imagine you get on there? Boom. AJ was on there. Talk about living. Lived on there for a year.

That's amazing. It's a snake on my shirt, I think. God damn right. It is. You're at a Bret Michaels. That hair backwards is amazing. Yeah. right. It is. You're at a Brett Michaels. Hair backward. And it's amazing. Yeah. Yeah.

Great show. Anyway, so Cliff Kingsbury and time both gone after extensions. You're saying being McDermott. What? Go ahead. Right. So,

but anyway, but these were done a couple of months ago. They are now, they weren't in sync before one was done contractually before the other. So now they are on the same page, both up the same year, which I think 2027. You also have the other thing going on in Buffalo, which is the stadium. And like, I don't think it's any doubt that both those guys are going to be there for the long term.

Like Buffalo is a very well-coached, well-run organization. But you do have the stadium, which the city and the people and the NFL and the team are all committing to. So basically everything now is locked in long term. But you do have the stadium, which the city and the people and the NFL and the team are all committing to. So basically everything now is locked in long term. Coach, GM, quarterback, a lot of really good players and stadium. Mike, that's a pretty good organization to be part of. Yeah, I think so as well. I love the Buffalo Beals.

I love everything they're about. Their fans, the new stadium, the culture they have. Hopefully they're able to get one. The AFC is stacked. We talked to Dan Orlovsky in the first hour, and we went through it. There's like zero bad teams in the AFC right now, projected, like zero bad. You could say the Raiders, but they got the best wide receiver in football on their team.

One of the best pass rushers, too. In football on their team. Best running back. He led the league in rushing last year. If he's back, Josh Jacobs, depending upon how that whole thing goes. So, like, you could say, well, they don't have their quarterback situation figured out, but it seems like Jimmy G thinks they're going to have it figured out if he pushes contract the way it is. So, like, Raiders, LeBrons, I guess, are a question mark because who knows what Deshaun's going to be

after two years out of football and coming back. They still have Chubb, though. So, they're going to be good. It's like the AFC is stacked. The Buffalo Beals fans have been through it, and then they get a team, like really, really, really good team, and it's like, yep, the entire AFC, though, stacked. The entire AFC is stacked.

It's tough timing, but the Buffalo Beals fans are in it for the long haul. Speaking about being in it for the long haul, we actually found a photo of you and AJ at kids camp back in the day. Yes. You getting blobbed off by the center pillow. That's crazy. That looks like so much fun. AJ, look at you, just so focused on blobbing him off.

Rap sheet's so calm, like I've been blobbed a million times. This is no different. Are we going to start the blobbing yet? That's what Ian's saying. You know what I mean going to start the blobbing yet? That's what Ian's saying. You know what I mean? When does the blob off start? That's awesome. You know what's going to happen?

As soon as I get blobbed, the arms and legs are going to go waving like I'm just lost in there. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Especially with how AJ's known to blob people off. Bingo. Yeah, he's a big blobber. Yep. He knows it.

And look at the center of gravity coming down there from AJ. Perfect form. We need three or four of us. Now, we need three or four of us to jump and blob Ian right here. Yep. He knows it. And look at the center of gravity coming down there from AJ. Perfect form. We need three or four of us. Now, we need three or four of us to jump and blob Ian right here. Oh, okay. Blob-ocky. All right. Maybe. I'm not going to say anything.

How would you spell that? B-L-O-B-U-K. This show needs to stop. It's getting to a point. Blockocky, yeah. Oh, Blob-ocky. Blob-ocky would be the correct pronouncement. Are we even to a point. Bokaki, yeah. Oh, Blabocki. Blabocki would be the correct one. Are we even going to do this?

Let's do it. Just brainstorm here, guys. All right, anyways, I'm happy we found those photos. I'm happy you joined us. We're bummed that Max and Jude aren't going to be around for the next seven years, but they'll come back better. Yeah, they will. Yeah, they'll come back all old and shaving probably and hair's a mess.

So you and your wife right now just have the house to yourself for seven weeks. Yeah, we just had lunch together. We were just like, do you want to just like sit and have lunch? And then we just sat and we just, you just sit and you eat. And then like you kind of chit chat in between. Oh, that's how it works. You have no idea, Connor. No, I don't. You have no idea. You have no idea connor no i don't you have no idea you have no idea never will what a play good move by you guys and also um i wrote down here early in this

conversation turns out you know how you were trying to when you point a finger you got three pointing back if you do recall remember you're like i'm in my house it must be you guys's thing remember you said that yeah yeah Turns out it was your computer. Oh, what do you know? Yeah. I'll tell you what, though. Real MVP, the phone. Sure.

Always. Hell yeah. So did you, pal. Have a great weekend. Enjoy your time with your wife. Yeah. It's going to be weird, but thank you. Maybe smoke some meat over the weekend?

There we go. Believe me, we got some steaks. We got some... We're going to play golf later. Nine holes together. Wow. Good for you guys. All right. Enjoy your day, ladies and gentlemen. You're up for it. Yeah, RG!

We'll take some phone calls on the 500 phone line at some point. 1-833-433-3663. 1-833-4... Ditto! Remember, if you get online on one of the phone lines here, let's pay attention. Yes. Let's not be in the middle of starting any parades or in the middle of a therapy session.

Right. Anything like that. We'll only be on one call. What's that, AJ? We've had a few close calls. Yeah. So wait, they put their phones on hold because they're on hold okay but

they keep it on speaker they don't mute it for some reason and then they're just chatting with their wife or whoever's with them or i mean life therapist side piece concubine yes anything yesterday's guy seemed like he was dressing full regalia i mean side piece that is what it seemed that guy yesterday hey let's be a better person yeah no way we'll do it next june Hey let's be a better person No worry we'll do it next June 10 Let's be a better person That was crazy Oh my god That was tough

What the fuck I hope we're back Let's get to Oh yeah Hey Coach Prime we hope you're alright Hope Coach Prime is okay Let's start bouncing, oh yeah, hey Coach Prime, we hope you're alright. Peace and peace. Hope Coach Prime is okay. Let's start bouncing and bopping through all the new subjects that we have not chatted about. The NFLPA expects to have a new executive director June 29th.

I would assume this would have normally been a pretty big thing with a vote and an entire campaign situation that has happened in the past but allegedly june 29th demorey smith will be dropping out of the position that he's held since 2009 i do believe and there will be a new heavy favorite currently that'll be taking his position i personally i'm pretty pumped to hear this news now obviously demorey smith has been with the nflpa for a long time i have no idea who the person is i would like to hear what the players thoughts are and if they got to vote for the new person Now, obviously, DeMaurice Smith has been with the NFLPA for a long time. I have no idea who the person is. I would like to hear what the players' thoughts are and if they got the vote for the new person or if they heard about the new person

or if this is just them being like, I'll step down since it's in the middle of one of my terms. We don't actually need a new vote. We'll put you in there as interim, and then we can potentially kind of continue to do this. I don't know the exacts of it. This came out of nowhere. But hopefully somebody that's good is getting that job.

And hopefully the NFLPA, its former players, and the NFL have a best relationship they've ever had going forward. AJ? Yeah, okay. So did we know DeMorris was stepping down? No, I did not. So that's the news, right? Isn't that the big, like, he still has a contract

and he's leaving before the contract is over, correct? I believe, yeah. Because he just got voted back in. Remember, we had the full— That's what's weird. Why is he leaving? What happened? I don't know.

I have no idea. That's a great question. Maybe he's just sick of it. I'm tired of it. Maybe he's making too much money. It's hard to hide all this money. I wonder who are the candidates, even. I don't know.

I don't think we've ever— Before, when they voted, we knew all the candidates, and players do somehow have a vote a little bit. Yeah, see, now it feels like this is interim. we'll pick this person we'll go in here appointing and then if you finish out the term in a good way it'll be easy for us just to keep you in there against anybody else that goes in there and that's just me who is a pessimist about the nflpa you know i think mostly every ex-player that has ever played in the nfl feels that way about the nflpa it's because the nflPA has to make a lot of decisions.

I understand that there's tough decisions to be made. A lot of them I feel like have been made in a very dumb business decision avenue. Sure. But I don't know anything. I've never been really into any of those meetings. But I will be fascinated to see who goes in there. Is Anthony Gonzalez going to make a run at this thing? Ooh, Gonzo.

Could they move? I have not heard his name floating around, but he'd be a good one. I think he does the politics stuff. Yeah. He gets it. I don't think he wants to get out of the politics stuff. Well, there was a time when they were going to force his ass out of there. And then he hit that in the park home run.

Yep. And they said, I guess we'll let you stay until the end of your term. That was unbelievable. My God. J.C. Tretter, maybe? Because he retired now, now officially and he was the president so he's player representative yeah jc treanor could potentially run for it hopefully he gets anything i don't know any of it i just hope they make better decisions that's just right

hey jay pro player i mean what if it's pac-man what if pac is the guy who just hasn't said anything all right i'll be excited to hear how it works out i'm in hey me too whoever it is though okay let's stop fucking dicking around let's make psilocybin legal okay good call let's talk about psilocybin in the psychedelics conference in denver where the keynote speaker was a guy that hosts a show on this particular program every single Tuesday. This man's best friend, ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers, was a speaker at a very large and impactful conference in Denver about the advancements of different forms of medicine in what psychedelics and psilocybin and ayahuasca and DMT and all these things have the capability of doing for people mentally. He told his story.

He told other examples. He's like almost campaigning right now for a big change. And I think in 2023, it's being listened to by a lot more people than maybe it would have been just five, 10 years ago. I always say that whatever people want to do to make themselves feel the best that they could possibly feel, why don't we just fucking let them do it like you know if it's not self-detriment or self-harm like who cares why are we cutting any of that back but then you start diving into the psychedelics people that hate this type of thing and they're like well one wrong trip you go down the wrong path you get addicted you become this boom boom boom boom boom so there's obviously going to be a happy medium where the agreement is going to come. But the more people we have, like Aaron, multiple-time MVP, top of the NFL still currently,

quarterback for the New York Jets in the biggest market in the world. Bob Parsons of PXG, he came on our show, Radio Row, and he said, I left Vietnam like 40 years ago or whatever. I didn't come home until I did the ayahuasca. That's when I felt like I finally came out of war, came out of my PTSD and kind of like became a human again. And he couldn't have advocated for it louder on our show. I mean, he was a big deal. So I think we're at a stage now where enough successful people who are taken seriously and have done things are kind of taking a stand for it. And if it does pass more laws or more lenience

more money spent on development easier to get the amount of military folks this will fucking help yep with ptsd that is a massive problem in the united states of america with all the wars we've been in over the last what 20 years yeah 20 30 years every basically everybody that was signing up for the military was definitely going to a war at some point. And then PTSD ran rampant. And then people started doing push-ups. How many people were killing themselves a day in the military?

22? Yeah, it was something like that. I don't know if it was exactly 22. However many it was, because PTSD, it's like, if this is proven to help people and be the best possible person they could possibly be, why don't we start it? And it feels like this is a good time to get in there. And Aaron, really?

Hey, you made some headlines talking over there, AJ. I know you made some headlines over there. Yeah, he's pushing for it. I mean, it makes sense. It's not like ayahuasca and all these psychedelics. It's not a drug, a plant medicine that people abuse. Like, it's not something where all of a sudden, Hey, this guy's doing it every single day. I,

from everyone you talked to that's done stuff like that. It's absolutely not that. And yeah, they're already doing a lot of great studies with, with military vets and people like that. And it's helping them. So I would imagine it's just a, it's just a matter of time before this is much more mainstream,

even though it's pretty mainstream right now. That's what I'm saying. I think the reaction to it, there's some pundits that are always going to be like this hippie quarterback. We've heard about this before in the past. Yeah. You know what it did look into the hippie revolution or something like that. Like there's always going to be people like that.

But I think like the overall narrative is vastly different now than it was not made. Like it doesn't seem like people are doing it. Oh, I want to go get messed up. That's not what it's about. Like you're going for a reason. You have, you're trying to figure some stuff out.

A lot of the other ones help with addiction too. I know a lot of people have gone and done the serious Iboga one, Ibogaine, and that's what helps people get off. They're addicted to pills, addicted to heroin, whatever it may be. They go out there and some of them don't touch it again after doing that. People are seeking something with these ones as opposed to passing time with other things bingo it's like they're seeking some sort of clarity or help i hope it becomes more of a conversation and i hope inevitably it leads to something where it can help people because we're so quick to give somebody a pill here you go here

you go here you go here you go here you go here you go here you go here you go here you go yeah this pill does it actually fix the problem no it just makes you numb to it oh so i'm just kind of hiding it no yeah but if you stay consistent with your pills you'll be okay it's like but then the time you're not treating you're treating the symptoms not treating the problem but then as soon as you're not consistent with your pill it's like even worse like it's almost like carry over carry over carry over carry over carry over carry over it gets even worse it's like why not allow you know a much it's not going to put us in danger it's not putting everybody else in danger that's why i don't like you do whatever you want as long as it's not going to kill me and my family and affect us in a negative way so i don't think these

psychedelics are doing that no he said hundreds of guys around the nfl reach out to him about the ayahuasca and other things once he came out publicly and talked about it. And then he said that he's done it with teammates down there. I didn't know that was the case. I didn't know it was teammates down there. I had heard Jake Paul was in one of his ceremonies, I believe is what it's called down there. But he said that some of his

teammates went down there and the reaction from them and the stories they tell and who they tell, it's like, feels like everybody that goes and does this. Now, if they're choosing to go do this they are at a situation where they're looking for a change i don't think you're committing to going to i think you puke pretty good oh yeah yeah i don't know i mean i think a lot more people have done it than we know because i i will be listening to things or talking to people and someone you would never have assumed and they're like oh yeah I've actually done it but a lot of times they're not going to Costa Rica they're going there's places in America where you can do it oh I didn't know that I know

I could do I don't think technically legal it's probably not legal but they're all over the place and there's some centers that are like controlled uh ceremonies but that's what maps is that where he spoke maps is like a it's a group that's been put together for years trying to, I guess, legalize it or educate people on this whole situation. I kind of like that it's very hard to get to because, like, you know. Yeah, the heart of the accessibility. Yeah, because people, and not saying that you don't make it that way, but I think when people are going, they're going for, like,

it's a full commitment, like, going here. I really want to work on something. I would like to change. It shouldn't be just an afternoon. Yeah, it shouldn't be like an afternoon all of a sudden i'm right back into my normal life here seven hours later yeah exactly yeah i don't know i mushrooms played a pretty big role in me kind of tightening up my life and making it pretty big now don't you think you can't go you can't go 10 feet without seeing people you know micro dosing a little chocolate bars and mushrooms yeah they it was it was pretty enlightening i don seeing people, you know, microdosing the little chocolate bars and mushrooms.

Yeah, it was pretty enlightening. I don't want to, you know, sound like such a douche, but it really was. Bill Stewart became our head coach, rest in peace. And we were tight with Bill Stewart whenever he was just tight ends coach and special teams coordinator. So he basically heard us telling all of our stories. So he knew that our whole team smoked pretty much. He tightened up on the drug testing and how we went about getting around it and everything like that.

We were trying to seek out alternatives. It was like mushrooms. Is Bill Stewart going to do a spinal tap? Here's mushrooms. In West Virginia, you've got a lot of farmers. You can potentially find it. A few of us, more than a few of us more than a few of us we're like all right i guess this is what we're doing now i guess we're doing mushroom this

is our life now and boy i loved it i had what's it like for real what's it like so it for me and i've seen people have bad trips i think where whatever state of mind you're in it's going to make you like 10x whatever you are so if you're having negative thoughts about yourself and like negative thoughts about your life and like potentially scare or fear or things like that and you take mushrooms i think it's going to amplify that like i think can you through that process though do you work through it and come through the other side and feel better afterwards and maybe if you're with like a a person a guru that's guiding you through it that's like whenever we were just putting them in peanut butter sandwiches and just eating them like we were all on it so like i have seen humans have bad trips before like i have and i was vastly confused because we're eating the same

stuff and i'm having the time of my life like i am super happy laughing it came in waves you know you like laugh and then like for four or five minutes you're down then you're back up I didn't trip and start seeing things but I was certainly much more jovial and then there was a stage at the end of it where like you started like thinking about life as like a whole and you get like kind of diving in and there was one particular journey I took where it ended with us in my college kitchen basically me and my roommates and my guys, and we just kind of laid out a conversation about what my life was going to be. And that was after I'd missed those two kicks

where I was getting a bunch of death threats. So we were trying to get, and by we, I'm very thankful for all my boys. We were trying to get me back into a position where I was like a happy human again, I think, like was a big part of it. And we were kind of get me back into a position where i was like a a happy human again i think like it was a big part of it and we're kind of towards the end of that transition and my boys that i was with then deserve a massive shout out and they know who they are hey appreciate you boys but then at the end of that thing on a mushroom trip like just kind of like all right here's the

plan we're gonna do this we're gonna do this this is gonna happen and this is gonna happen and then potentially this is gonna happen And basically just laid it all out. And it felt like the next day when I woke up, it was like in still like, Hey, this way, it was almost like, it like flipped a switch almost for me for like the next six months when I was like, kind of wondering what the fuck I was going to do. And it locked in. So it was a massive thing for me. I would say one particular mushroom trip, but I could see how people have had bad ones too. for me i would say one particular mushroom trip but i could see how people have had bad ones too i've never had that thank god but i'm a massively thankful for what mushrooms did for me in the time in which i needed it if that makes sense yeah sounds like it was very beneficial that's what

it's for for what exactly you laid out right there it's what it seems like that's what all this is for why people are doing it yeah and we'll see you know like hopefully more people get introduced to it and also if you also, science isn't always right. Science has changed. Even though people say science can't change because science is science, we've learned science has changed. Like milk. Back in the day, everybody drank milk, hammer milk.

Hammer milk. Even at 10.30 or 11 o'clock on a Tuesday or a Wednesday as an adult. Just milk, milk, milk. And now it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Maybe you don't need milk. It's like people think science is the end all, be all. We appreciate smart people. But I hope the science gets behind the mushrooms as well.

Then they can start just like they do with weed. Maybe you can start amplifying it and kind of directing it in a certain way. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the most powerful men in all of sports media. And the reason why he's one of the most powerful men in all of sports media is because he runs one of the biggest sports in the world. Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the UFC, I would assume billionaire at this point.

Yeah, for sure. It's only going to keep going up too because his big fucking brain. The founder of Fuck It Friday and that slap festival. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. How are you, dude? I'm good, boys. How are you? Good morning. Hey, good morning to you and

thank you for joining us. Let's dive right into this. Two billionaires want to fucking kick each other in the dick. I saw you on TMZ Sports. I saw you talking about how both these guys really want to fucking kick each other in the dick yeah i saw you on tmz sports okay i saw you talking about how both these guys really want to fight and you think it's going to take place how would this go do you actually see it taking place would it happen at a ufc how is this going to work in your mind and what is the likelihood of it dana i don't know i mean they're they're both in i have a call with with Elon Musk in 10 minutes. That's a hilarious statement. So do all you super successful whites just know each other?

Like you, Zuck, and Elon just send texts to each other? Or how did you get connected with them? You just saw? Go ahead. The reality is that, you know, when you look at the people that fighting touches, everybody's into fighting, man. I say this all the time. I don't care what color you are, what country you come from, what language you speak. Fighting's in our DNA. We get it and we like it. We're human beings and everybody's into it. I mean, you see some of these fighters from these other countries, when they win, I mean, they go to whatever the equivalent of their White House is back in their country. country i mean uh when when uh habib won his fight he didn't even make it to the locker room and putin was on the phone i mean it's just fighting everybody's in when it comes to fighting so we've seen zuckerberg uh we think he took gold in a gi event yes in silver and a non-gi jujitsu event now from what we've been told from the facebook or Zuckerberg people, is that he didn't actually lose that.

Kind of bullshit. Still should have got gold in both. Do we know if Elon has any fighting in his past? And when would this be projected to be? I assume both of them would want to train for something like this. Yeah, well, you know, Zuckerberg takes this very serious, man. He's very into this sport. He trains and has been training for years.

Now he's starting to compete in jiu-jitsu tournaments. And, you know, the talks that I've had with Elon, Elon trained in martial arts too. He's done jiu-jitsu. And, you know, he says, listen, I grew up in South Africa. I've been in a lot of fights. It's not like I haven't fought before. You know, you look at these two tech guys and, you know,

nobody thinks that they can fight, but they want to, it's real. And we'll see how this thing ends up. I'm, you know, me, I'm working out. Listen, if, if I think that this will be the biggest fight in the history of the world, and I think that it'll set a record that will never be broken if it happened. And I, uh, I like putting on fights that people want to see like this, originally with the Conor McGregor Mayweather fight, I was like, I don't want to do this thing, whatever. It just got to the point where everywhere I went,

it's all anybody talked to me about. So we ended up doing it. And this is definitely all anybody's talking about right now is Zuckerberg and Musk. Yeah, two of the most influential humans on Earth and maybe in the history of earth battling it out the world wants to see it go at aj dana have you thought about how any of it could look how you might set this up obviously would they be the main event who

would fight on the undercard anything have you thought of any of the details yet yeah listen if you're if you're going to charge 100 bucks for something you know which would probably be the price for this thing and these guys would raise possibly hundreds of millions of dollars for charity. You know, you want to put on an entertaining card, at least when people stay home on Saturday night and turn the TV off, they're like, hey, well, we saw some great fights anyway. And, you know, this is one of those fights. This is the type of crossover fight that people who traditionally don't watch fights, women, older women fights, women, older women, younger women, you name it, everybody that could care less about a fight,

this crosses over to everyone. So you would want to put your big guys in there, right? You would want to have a good show. Yeah. I mean, you'd want to showcase some guys. You'd want to put in some guys that you want people to see. You want to get some eyeballs on some of your guys that are really good and you believe have the potential to do something, and some big stars too, to make the card very attractive. So at this exact moment, you've talked to Zuck already, right? You've got a call with Elon here in about five. I've been talking to both of them back and forth. We have a call in five minutes here.

Hold on. Hey, so this might get announced soon? We think this is going to, cause I assume with these two sooner, I don't know. I listen, you know, first of all, if,

if they both agree and they both say, you know, let's start here. Elon Musk is six foot two, 220 pounds. Mark Zuckerberg is not. Okay. So,

uh, there's a huge thing. This thing would be like UFC one for Christ's sakes. Right. Um, so we'd have to figure out some weight stuff. You know, I don't know how the commissions are going to look at this. No,

no drug testing, right? No drug testing. Be like MLB back in the, when they all hit the home run, just let them eat all the steroids they can get their hands on. Well, it would be an exhibition.

The fight wouldn't be sanctioned by a commission. It would be an exhibition. And you know, there's just still a lot of things that you would need to work through to make this fight happen. But what I love and what I respect is both of these guys are down. They both want to do it. They both want to fight.

For people that aren't even fight fans, this is fun. It's fun to talk about. It's fun to think about. You know me, man. I'm in the middle right now trying to put all the pieces together and see what we can do. Alright, well, we will let you go. Last question for me is, I saw Jon Jones and Francis Ngannou

run into each other at a PFL event and I believe what DC said is, I know Francis Ngannou isn't scared or whatever whenever he met Jon Jones. He said, but the way Jon Jones is looking at Francis Ngannou, Jon Jones ain't scared of a damn thing. Jon Jones is still the guy.

And then I saw the PFL guy tweets out a promoted tweet. So he put money behind it and was like, hey, why don't we do this, UFC? I thought that's an interesting move business-wise to do that. But how would that work? They would represent like as an agent of Francis Ngannou? It wouldn't work. Okay? It wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. Francis was here.

Jon Jones wanted that fight the whole time. We tried to make the fight with Francis. Yeah. Alright. Good luck on this call with a couple billionaires. Let's get this done, Dana, for the good of the world. Thanks, boys. Have a great day. Every time I talk to you, I'm congratulating you.

You just keep going like this. Congrats, boys. Like you. Can't wait to win a couple hundred thousand playing blackjack with you. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. You bailed on the last one. What are you doing? Come on.

You got to start talking to some of your boys. Everybody's out here with the money. You're too big and rich and famous and fucking ESPN. All right, all right. Fuck off, Dave. Go talk to Elon, please. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. Hey, Dana.

It was supposed to happen. And it was middle of the week. I mean, that was tough. That would have been tough. Tough thing to swing. We've only been talking about it for like two years, by the way. That's it. Going out and gambling with him.

Feels like this is going to happen. Hey. I had no idea it had legs like this. It's a real possibility. Hell yeah, dude. You know what's next, too. I mean, as soon as people see this, Balmer and Bezos are going to want to get in that octagon, too.

Oh, Bezos will fight anybody. You see him. Balmer will. Balmer's a nut job. I wouldn't get in the ring with that guy. Is he 6'8", 340? Yeah. Toilets!

I love that guy. Yeah. Just thinking. Yeah, about? Out loud here so I don. Toilets! I love that guy. Just thinking. Yeah, about? Out loud here so I don't forget it. Super Bowl's in Vegas. Just do it, though. Oh, my gosh.

Super Bowl weekend usually is like the biggest card of the year, too. Give them time to adequately juice up. I meant for playing Blast Jack with Dana, but yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure for that. But, yeah, it is an adequate juicing run where with all the modern pharmacies and concepts and ideas for how to make you the superhuman, Dana should implore them to utilize their resources and become the best you you could possibly be coming into this cage, February, whatever, whenever the Super Bowl is. The only issue for the UFC folks would be they're going to have to pay those fighters. So if it's a charity, it would just be whatever after they pay the fighters.

Everybody else on the card and then they'll go to charity? Well, and big fighters. But we were talking about, too, like we've talked about in the past, it might be tough to get some of those real marquee guys who are getting pay-per-view points. Because then it's like... They're not going to do... We're not the main event. Exactly.

Like Jon Jones, Stipe would be sick, but they want to be the main event. But I'm thinking like Sugar Sean, you put him on there. Yeah. Like the people you're trying to make stars almost, like you put them on. And maybe that's where the Conor and Chandler fight is. Yeah.

It could be terrible, though. The fight could be... The headliner, if the headliner is Zuck and uh and elon my bad i got bezos on my mind thinking all the people he could fight that guy's jack there's a lot of people he could fight but there's a real possibility the fight is completely no i don't think it's going to be but it could be really quick no absolutely it'll be a terrible form of a fight imagine them you see how both those guys they better get spray tanned everything like that would i mean i would i would need to as well man it's just awesome zuck's not gonna get spray tanned, everything. I mean, I would need to as well.

But, man, it's just awesome. Zuck's not going to get spray tanned. Elon might. Zuck's going to go the complete opposite way. Yeah, I mean. We've had the wrong. Who did the tail of the tape? Tail of the tape this entire time. Oh, shit.

That's the biggest, that's the toughest thing. If Elon truly is 6'2", 220, like, Zuck, they're going to have to have some, is there going to be a weight class? I don't know. So UFC 1 he was talking about, that was back when Gracie. There was no weight class? I don't know. So UFC 1 he was talking about, that was back when Gracie. There was no weight class. That was when Hoist Gracie just choked everybody out. Choked out like a 400-pound guy.

That's the thing, though, is like, you know, was anyone ever concerned about Bruce Lee's size? No. No. So why are we concerned about Zuck's size? We've seen that guy hit the mitts. We've seen him shoot for the single leg. I mean, I don't think it's really that big of an issue.

You're back at the wrong horse. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's really that big of an issue. You're back on the wrong horse. Yeah, I mean, Bruce Lee was an actor, so that works. Actor? He's an actual? He's a martial artist. Yes, he's a martial artist. He didn't take any professional fights, but yes. Could have.

Well, if it was modern day. Yeah, he would have. You said he wouldn't win. Bruce Lee's a man. He's awesome. He beat Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's ass, dude. You're right. I stand corrected.

You're right. Yeah, size matters? No. I don't think so. They could let Zuck wear those massive elevator shoes, and he's just the first fighter ever to wear shoes. That De Niro was wearing? Yeah, and the Irishman.

Might slow him down in there, but also might help him. He's better on the ground anyway. Leg kicks with those things on? If he wears those things, he's basically just kind of chicken fighting in the pool. It's like he's on somebody else's shoulders. Kind of hard to move the lower body, but he could. Oh, yeah. I guess they could just kind of chicken fighting in the pool. Yeah. It's like he's on somebody else's shoulders. Yep. Kind of hard to move the lower body, but he could.

Oh, yeah. I guess they could just, maybe they do a slap thing. Oh, that'd be. That's what they should do. Oh! Yes! There it is. I don't think Zuck would be into that.

Yeah, because he wants to. He's so technical. Catch that orange. Yeah, he wants to get his hands on it. Yeah. Have we seen Zuck do any, like, striking, hitting the mitts or anything? Yes. Yeah, he wants to get his hands on it. Yeah. Have we seen Zuck do any striking, hitting the mitts or anything? Yes. Yeah.

Boy, his fucking combos he threw were unbelievable. Yeah, it's coding. He's like Z-Y-X-W-V-N-G. One of the more explosive right hooks I've ever seen. Let's go to the phone. The movie Creed is based on. His training? Yes.

I thought that was a social network. No. That also is based on his business but his training itself oh let's go to griffin in baltimore on a 500 phone line what's going on griffin how we doing keep it moving hell yeah and also hey paizan how's the family pretty good it's good man everything's good how about really good really good're not Italian. Perfect, perfect. More than you. So going back to Zuck versus Musk, are we thinking that the winner is going to fight, not Bezos like AJ said, but Chris Angel?

I think that's the real next step here. That's true. Great call, Griffin. They could have him come down from the rafters. Yeah. And next. And Zuck's just like, bring him on. And then he'd get right back in there.

And then he got paid another $100 to watch that. And now we're raising double the amount of money for some charity. And Chris Angel, here's Zuck hitting him. Oh my god. Boom. Oh my. Run that back. Boom. Oh. He's throwing faint punch. Oh my god. He just killed this guy. Look at those blocks.

Unbelievable. Oh gosh. Elbow. Broken hand. Elbow. Oh, that's a quick. I at those blocks. Unbelievable. Elbow, broken hand. Oh, that's quick. I wonder if he's mine. He's got UFC shorts on already. South Paw, man. It's going to be tough for Elon. Man, he's only

minus 140, 160 right now. That might get to minus 500 if these videos keep hitting the internet. Elon's from the Southern Hemisphere, AJ. The South paw, that's normal paw up here. Oh, yeah, because the toilet's flushed the opposite way. That makes sense. Tying it all together. Let's go to Dave in Philly.

What's going on, Dave? Hey, don't forget to bury the bodies before you lay the concrete. Guys, how we doing? Jesus, Ken. Ken Evans. Real funny. Good move. Good move. Real funny. Good move, good move. Real funny.

Well done. Good call. That was good. Good call. We appreciate that. Let's go to Jim in Indianapolis. What's going on, Jim? We're going to change it up.

Let's keep it grooving. Okay. Grooving Friday in the Thunderdome. What's going on? Hey, congratulations on your baby. I'm going through it right now with a grandbaby. Hell yeah, thank you. Connor, Connor, we'll have a little match.

Me and you play nine holes. That's all. If you lose, I get to shave your goddamn hair off. Yeah! No, you should do that with everyone who listens. Never. Listen, first of all, I don't want you to be in any situation ever where you might lose that thing.

I'm not cutting my hair, damn it. Good. We just got it. We can't lose it, Jim. Exactly. Hey, you sound like a mean grandpa. I was messed up. That was rude, Jim.

Jim wanted to kill the mullet already, AJ. Did you see that? I did hear that, yes. I mean, he knew that wasn't going to happen. Never. AJ, how long do you think this mullet lasts on Conor's head? Honestly, I think it could last a while because I feel like how pumped Con Man is about it.

Because it is true. Those curls that you have, Con, people pay for that. The fact that you have those naturally, that's a real treasure. Yeah, it helps out a lot. And also, I think what we're not kind of taking in is that the 22 months before this was just to get to this. Look at the volume he has, too. you know, kind of taken in is that the 22 months before this was just to get to this. So at least 22 months, then you add up on, you know, a few more years. Return on profit.

Yeah, exactly. I have to get a good ROI on this. Dude, you might win that mallet. You might be a state fair champion mallet. I could. I got to continue to do the – because I have long hair on top, and the thought was like to push the top up, but I never got there. You know what I mean?

I think it was too long. It was too long, yeah. So I've got to find the right length. I think you're at it right now, pal. Yeah. Now, JC, there's a lot of pressure on those scissors. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's got to stay consistent. Hair grows very fast as well, so how many times do you cut it to keep it at this length? Every other week? Every three weeks? Are you thinking about doing a different fade? I've thought about adding something in here maybe, but also that's tough. I could do the weeks until football.

Why don't you do a Wemby like Marty did? Marty's the best. That would be sweet. Marty cut a promo last night in San Antonio in shorts, cowboy boots, a belt buckle, and a cowboy hat in a San Antonio Spurs jersey. And he had the crowd in the palm of his hand. Yes, he did. For two minutes, Marty Smith went bananas.

And he also had Wemby cut into his fade down there in San Antonio by one of the barbers, Mr. Joe Barber, who's known for that around the city. Marty Smith was one of the winners of the draft last night, and we'd like to send a big thank you to him for existing. What a night for Marty. I don't know if you saw it, AJ. Absolutely. Are you kidding me? Marty's awesome. Watching that reminded me of when I

saw Marty on the NASCAR track do a minute and a half intro that was off the charts that I told him about the first time I met him in person. Marty and McGee. What a tag team. Seriously. One of the ghosts. Changing the game.

Didn't he have a wedding? What's that? Marty, wasn't he officiating a wedding with that haircut? Down in San Antonio? I thought that's what one of his – Oh, I might have missed it. I might have missed it. Not a bad person to officiate a wedding.

His sister-in-law? I forget what it was. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He'd be perfect. His sister-in-law i forget what oh yeah yeah he's perfect his sister in law's wedding is coming up this weekend that he is officiating and he said he had that haircut and you know he just sent out a anybody that's ever been through a wedding before you know exactly what i just signed up for and that is a lot of conversation about what is on

my head and what will be in photos forever is what everybody's talking about. But shout out to Marty having a great draft night. Michael Lombardi will be joining us in about 15 minutes. I don't know if you saw Marty's promo, but he was not appreciative of any of the NBA draft coverage last night. No, he wasn't. Didn't love it. Last week he came on and broke news just out of his mouth.

He did. Leslie Frazier running like that. I said that yesterday, Thursday, Saturday, Monday. Every day. And just, bam. So I'm excited. This might become a new Friday ritual. Like, hey, Lombo, what all did you figure out this week that you just let spill on your podcast, your live

show, your newsletter, anything that you have going on that just maybe slipped through the cracks? And I think that's kind of a good weekly wrap-up. It is. Because he seems to know everything about everybody almost. He knows that. I mean, he's been involved with everybody forever, and he's been in different positions.

So he kind of has an idea of everyone's role, and he spoke to people in all these different roles. Yeah, he knows a lot. Yeah, he talked about the Jimmy G contract recently, because he was like, I've written so many contracts, this Jimmy G thing. There has to be something in there about the Jimmy G contract recently. Because he was like, I've written so many contracts, this Jimmy G thing. There has to be something in there about the injury.

Let's go to Antonio in New Mexico on the 5RNG phone line. What's going on, Antonio? Yeah, boys. How you doing? Keep it moving. Quick shout out to my boy, Dito, fellow Bears fan.

I just wanted to say really quickly how important and how much of a good influence you guys have been in my life. I know when I'm feeling down, I get to turn on the time important and how much of a good it's been in my life. I know when I'm feeling down, I get to turn on the time-out show to get a quick laugh. Ty Schmidt, probably one of the only few Bear fans out there that believes Aaron Rodgers is a top five, maybe a top three quarterback of all time.

So, you're welcome. Thank you for having a brain. We appreciate that. We do appreciate that. Not a lot of Bears fans have brains, I guess. That's what you're saying in New Mexico. What do you want to talk about, though, brother? We appreciate the kind words. We do appreciate that. Not a lot of Bears fans have brains, I guess. That's what you're saying in New Mexico. What do you want to talk about, though, brother? We appreciate the kind words.

Thank you for watching. Well, no disrespect to all my full-time fans, but I always said that if Aaron Rodgers was going to ever leave without getting a win from us, we kind of never beat that fucking guy. Yeah, all right. There's a little bit of anger in there. It's not a lie.

But Bears fans know football. They do. St. Aaron, top five, top ten, top three guy of all time. Yeah, that's right. You think Aaron's mad that Antonio from New Mexico just said that? Is that a chip? Is that what he needed? Everything's going too good over there in New York.

Yeah, yeah. He's going to games. He's going to plays. Conferences. He's conference. He's talking about psilocybin and conference looking so cool. Remember last year it was the crypto and the leather jacket. That's right's talking about psilocybin and conference looking so cool. Remember last year it was the crypto and the leather jacket. That's right. This year psilocybin

looking a little different in Denver. Do you think you need to hear that from Antonio? Yeah, you're a top 10 player all the time. Top 10 quarterback all the time. Maybe we'll break the parade curse they have. AJ. Doubt it. That is a problem. He's not in Green Bay anymore. No, yeah, but we're saying like

let's pivot away from Aaron using that as a chip. He did. He heard that from Antonio in New Mexico, and somehow the Bears are still going to help Aaron Rodgers win next year. So congrats to Antonio and to the Bears. Whenever you think about that curse that Green Bay has about the no parade, that's maybe never going to flip. Like, think of the football gods.

Think about all the years here that have happened since then where it's like the Packers are going to go, the Packers are going to go, the Packers are going to go. And then all of a sudden in the NFC Championship, it's like 180 yards rushing before contact. Game over. Jimmy G attempted six passes. You guys lose.

Get blown out. Let's let them get here and then fucking embarrass him that's what it feels like right like a football gods have they not punished you guys enough you think we're not worried at all like I've mentioned a couple times since we started talking about this free parking is I mean what else

do you want you know a parade no you can't it's too cold AJ mentioned you just can't do it you can't do this and I get it's cold in Pittsburgh. Okay, we're talking about the frozen tundra here. You know a good way to break a parade curse? You bring in a fresh-faced young kid who's got a deep-ass voice. Who's that?

Jordan Love. That's exactly what they did. His voice will bellow up to the football gods and break whatever imaginary curse we're talking about. Hell, yeah. Not imaginary. AJ, you kind of brought this curse to the public. I want to let you know that. Way to go.

I never said anything about a curse. You're the guys that said it's a curse. I would imagine if they win a Super Bowl, they will have a parade now. I would hope so. Yeah. They should. We're hoping they will. Yeah.

I hope they'll give the team rings, too. Did you get rings? Oh, yeah. We got nice rings, yeah. Oh, okay. Shout out. out tiffany i think made them but let's get a run whoa that hurts so bad every time it happens i feel like it's the worst in your ears too because over here not not as bad it does i think a full pop because pop, pop. It's because we're hardwired. Oh. Don't do it. Why would I do it? No point.

Don't test it. Don't test it. Why was I even thinking about doing that? Let's go to Levi in Georgia. What's going on, Levi? How you doing? Keep it moving. All right, sweet.

I got a question. Is Pac-Man in the building today? He is not, but I'm sure we can either relay or answer for you. Okay. I watch the show every now and then. It bugs the shit out of me. I just want to ask. Does he put in a whole fucking can of dip in his lip at one time?

Yes. Levi, we appreciate you watching every once in a while. Yeah, he does. He does. It's pretty phenomenal. Pretty impressive. Yeah. The Zin thing taking over the world, it's like, you know,

you could just put like 15 of these Zinn pouches in if you want and it won't be there. I feel like he feels like he has to do it. Like he's a part of the whole process, not just what's coming from it. Oh, yeah. He said he's never going to quit. He's like, I know it's bad for me. I know I should, but I'm just, this is one thing I will not give up.

That's West Virginia. He really does go from like middle of mouth to wisdom tooth. Back of the tooth, yeah. It goes whole thing there. Half horseshoe. Pretty impressive. A lot of people say, oh, a guy's packing a baseball. He legitimately has a pool ball in his mouth.

That's about the size of the dip that he packs every day. We should make him switch to Redman and get a spittoon up on the stage. Oh, yes. We should make him try and put two full cans in his mouth. I don't think we would make him do that. He'd be like, yeah, let's go. Feel good Friday. It is alarming.

I've been trying to talk him out of it with like let everybody know. I'm trying to talk him out of it. Shout out to Levi too, being very honest. Yeah, thank you. Fucking bugs the shit out of me. I don't really watch that much, but I've seen a couple videos.

I fucking figured I'd call in, sit on hold for 45 minutes. I just need to know. Yep. Does this guy put a whole thing in his... Yeah. Yes, he does. Fucking thought so. See you guys later.

All right. See you. Fuck, I ain't watching, but see you. Adam in Kansas City on the 500G phone line. What's going on, Adam? Thanks, Colin. Keep moving, boys. I just saw Connor's wonderful mullet yesterday and uh i've been growing my

hair out for about a year decided to make a hair hair appointment and uh came home to show the wife and she threatened to kick me out and cut it off while i'm sleeping so i was just wondering if there's any advice for the mullet haters out there yeah fucking divorce her ass that is on the table. I've already got some offers for my buddies to move in. That a baby, Adam. All right, sounds good. What's that all about?

She doesn't like his dreams? Some people just don't get it, you know, and they never will. And it sounds like that guy's wife is one of the haters. And, you know, you have options. Sure, you can go back to the barber and get a regular haircut, or you can pack up all your shit, get the fuck out of there, go live with your buddies and live the dream and have a great mullet boom that's only going to grow and grow and grow exactly

what more could you ask for from this life and there's going to be nights you're going to be lonely sure you know and as the entire divorce proceedings are taking place it's going to be tasking yeah but when you roll over on that bed you know it's going to be touching your face back of that mullet and when you go into that courtroom for the divorce you know what's going to be touching your face? Back of that mullet. And when you go into that courtroom for the divorce, you know what's going to be there with you? What's that? That mullet. That's right. Your boys will be front row too. Yeah, exactly. Supporting. You know, I didn't even like this guy. Wearing tuxedo t-shirts.

Now, I do know people that are adults that are told that they can't do things with their hair from like their parents. True. Very recently. Yes. But also... What's that, AJ? Adults. So you know adults whose parents are still controlling their haircuts? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Sweet. One person. I don't know a lot of people. Just one. Only one person. But you got to cut that person a break because they're still suckling the teeth of the parents. True.

That is true. Yeah, it is. What does he say? Wait, what does Kirk say? What does he want to have? So Kirk told Jake, like, nah, we're not doing this. Whenever he was. Yeah, it is. What does he say? Wait, what does Kirk say? What does he want to have? So Kirk told Jake, like, man, we're not doing this. Whenever he was. Yeah.

I'm going to grow my hair. That's the first thing he said in here. He was growing his hair out. And he has, I think, pretty curly hair. And it was just growing straight out. And if you grow it, like that guy grew his hair out for a year. And then he cut into a mullet. And his wife was like, we're not doing this anymore.

It's like, there was a lot of times where that guy looked terrible that his wife could have said you look fucking terrible what are you doing because in the process of growing that out there's a lot of terrible phases jake was certainly in one and staring down being in one six seven eight months you know what i mean at least and his dad's like i'm not looking at you like this pretty cut your fucking hair yeah and he cut his hair he did respects his dad. I get it. He respects his dad. It's all right. He's super handsome, too. So, like, this is definitely the right move for Jim.

Oh! Oh! Oh! This guy! It was the right move, though. It was the right move. The hair was terrible. Like, Kirk was not the only one that was thinking his hair was terrible.

No. I think Kirk potentially was like, I'm going to speak for the whole world right now. Yep. Can't do it. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. Not factoring into his dad is the president of Ohio, so you can't say no in some aspects.

Yeah, are you guys co-presidents over there? How does that work? No, I think he is the sole president of Ohio. How often do you meet? For a long time. When you talk to Ryan Day, does he go, Mr. President, we're asking you for... Does he do that? Nope. You guys are the only

people that say that to me. Has Ryan Day addressed you being this champion since this day? No, we have not spoken about it. So it's a fake award. What? No. Why are we doing fake awards? They should be meeting with you, telling you their game plans, their workout plans, their strategy for raising more

money so they can keep up in the NIL with everybody else. This is bad ball. No wonder Ohio State's falling off. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's had every single position in the NFL. He's also had every single position in sports media. Currently holds them still.

Including writing things. Books. Newsletters. Probably tweets. Ted talks. Ted talks. He speaks. He also speaks on a podcast. He speaks on a live show.

He comes on our show and he breaks news because he is phenomenal. Ladies and gentlemen, Paisano, Michael Lombardi. Hello, Pat. What's up, guys? How are we doing today? How are things? Hey, things are good, man. We got a chance to watch that NBA draft last night. We love that. So good. Stayed with it? Yeah. What's up, guys? How are we doing today? How are things? Hey, things are good, man.

We got a chance to watch that NBA draft last night. We love that. Stay with it? Yeah. Stay with it? The other way. I'm going to get myself straight. There I go.

Okay, I'm good. Hey, you look good. Hair looks good. Tan looks good. You look fantastic. Thank you. Yeah, we watched the draft last night. It was fantastic.

Have you been watching anything that you've loved? No, I did not watch it. I mean, I decided to watch. What I did was I watched the beginning of it. I saw it was a disaster. I mean, seriously, if I were going to put together a show that would be the worst show I could and try to portray it as Saturday Night Live, that's

the show I would have put on last night. I'm a fan. I love the draft. I want to know about the players. I want to know about the salary cap. I want to know why Dallas moved from 10 the draft. I want to know about the players. I want to know about the salary cap. I want to know why Dallas moved from 10 to 12. I want to know why the 8 to 9 move happened. I want to know what's going on. And what drives me crazy is we have these shows about the draft,

and there's never anybody within 500-mile radius who has been in a draft room before on these shows. Like, they never do that. Like, I feel bad for the girl that was doing all the interviewings. I mean, her back has to hurt today. She was trying to stay in balance. We had the Merv Griffin set going on over there, and she couldn't even sit down. I mean, she needed Newman next to her.

I felt bad for her. But, no, I did watch it. I ended up putting on the documentary that won the Oscar about elephants, and I watched that, and I scrolled my phone to see what the hell was going on. Seriously, that's what I did. All right. Well, happy you had a great Thursday night. Yeah.

I don't know what this documentary is about elephants. I love elephants. I love documentaries. Feels like one I would enjoy. How long? Which platform? It's on Netflix. It was 40 minutes is all it was,

and it's basically about this indian compound that has become an elephant sanctuary i sponsor an elephant my wife got me a gift years ago because i'm huge into elephant part of the italian tradition is to have elephants with trunks up that gives you good luck i've got them all over my office here you i got a thousand of them they're all good luck for you. But the trunks have to be up. So I love elephants. And it was great. And it's how these two people have built this sanctuary in India and how they adopted this one elephant. And elephants, they want to be great teammates. They're part of a team. And they want to feel a sense of belonging. And I think that ultimately,

that's what this couple does over in India. It was great. 40 minutes. sense of belonging. And I think that ultimately that's what this couple does over and in. It was great. 40 minutes, it was great. And I scrolled my phone. I looked at the picks. You know, but what drives me crazy, Pat, is they won't change the hats. Like, I love a lot of – I love the few players in the draft. Like, I want to know, is the guy going to stay on the team

or is he going somewhere else? Like, why did they have to make it so complicated? I don't know, Lombo. And I don't have any elephants with their trunks up. But I do got an Italian horn. You see what I got here? Huh? That's a good thing.

That's a good thing. I think that gives you good luck, you know. But the trunk up elephant is the key. It is a good luck sign. I'll send you one. I got one at my house. Trust me. I will send you one. I have at my house I will send you one

I have a See you gotta have them they gotta look like this Pat See they look like that Hell yeah I love elephants as well Hey elephants massive brains Like obviously the guy's huge heads Massive brains great loyalty

Memory The memory of an elephant obviously something The more I've learned about elephants they've become my favorite animal yeah of course they are i mean that is incredible and to your point about the hats because the one guy was on the pacers doing an interview with washington wizards hat on his head they'd already traded his rights but he's doing the interview through the wizards cap or something like that and he was on the pacers it made us the anybody with a fro though like why are we forcing

yeah crushing it the hat on top of it you know what i mean i i they all look like yarmulkes on top of the head they literally right like they say it's because the collective because free agency doesn't start until july 1 that they can't really make the trades official but they're having the draft before the free agency. So I can't imagine the collective bargaining agreement wouldn't put a loophole in and say, okay, on draft night, these trades are official and we can make them official. Like I can't imagine that because as a fan, okay, I wake up this morning and I love Jordan Welsh from Arkansas. I think he's going to be a good player. He plays, he defends, he's long, he doesn't have a great offensive game yet,

but he does all the things that good teammates do. And so I look and it says he's drafted by Sacramento, but no, he's going to Boston. Like, why do I have to be confused by that? Like, I want to know, just can somebody tell me where he got picked? Or why the pick too? Like, this salary cap on the NBA is going to change dramatically in two years. I want to know about it. You know, I'm a fan. I want to understand these moves. Because when you're talking about player development, you're talking about building a team, the NBA is like a rock and roll band.

You've got to have certain pieces that fit together. And I want to know why those pieces are being picked. Yeah, I agree. And that's the player you like out of Arkansas? I'm like Fat Joe. I like Dick. Yeah. Brady from Kansas.

He's up in Toronto now. Matt, you know he's got to be tough with that name. You know that now. You know he's got to have some toughness to him. He's not thin-skinned, I can tell you that. Absolutely. And Drake, the amount of wordplay that Drake is about to have with Brady Dick being a Toronto Raptor,

I cannot wait for it. Let's move to football. And there was another show on ABC that none of us, I think all of us turned on ESPN and then didn't even realize there was something going on on ABC. But to your point, there was no GMs on the ABC broadcast. Fat Joe was on there. Fat Joe was on there.

That's where we like Dick on ABC. He said it like 10 times. I love it. He went in there with. That's where we like Dick on ABC. He said it like 10 times. I love it. He went in there with a mindset of letting everybody know he knows ball, and I like Dick. Anyways, let's move on to the NFL. With the situation brewing in New England, and obviously we all know your ties to New England.

You have New England Patriot Super Bowl rings. I believe you were invited to the White House with Bill Belichick whenever Bill Belichick was invited. You are very tied in to the Patriots organization. You think they're going to end up with D-Hop on the team? And if they end up with D-Hop, we're about to see a massive year out of Mac Jones, right? This is going to be a bounce back, Mac Jones, elite player type year. If D-Hop is there, will that happen, Lambeau?

Well, I think Mac Jones has got to play better. You know, his rookie year, he played well, but he still was 2.5 interception percentage on that season. Last year he was exactly at 2.5 again. He's got to protect the football. He can't make costly mistakes. He's got to do the things that the offense – and take profits, right? We talk about this all the time in the NFL. Take the profits.

Take the check down. As for Hopkins, my sense of it is if Hopkins will do a deal that kind of fits within their salary structure, right? So they've got, they paid Smith Schuster. He hasn't been healthy. They've got Devante Parker, who's over 30. His contract's up after the year. The Patriots have a ton of cap room. So if they sign Dee Hopkins, I think it would be about getting the right deal for this year, taking a look at him. Now, we know he doesn't practice all the time. You know, we know that his work habits in the past haven't been to the same level of the Patriots, but we also know that the head coach respects the hell out of his game. So I just get the sense that this will end up,

he won't take less money, which will kind of kill this. But I do think that, you know, obviously there's interest on both parts. I actually believe Dalvin Cook would be a better fit than Hopkins for that. Stevenson's a great player. There's no question. But without Stevenson, if he goes down, that's Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris. They need another back back there. And I think Cook is one of those really good change of pace, catch a screen, go a long way. I think he'll make a huge difference for the Patriots offense with Stevenson. Lomba, what about the Miami Dolphins? What do you think their season looks like?

I think there's a lot up in the air. They obviously have a ton of talent. It depends on Tua being healthy and being available. How do you think their season goes? And also, could Dalvin Cook be a good fit down there? Well, you know, I think he could be. And one of the reasons why McDaniel got the job down there is because he was a run game guru. That's what everybody was told.

They were 31st in the National Football League in rushing attempts last year. And if you want to keep your quarterback healthy, I think you're going to have to have a little bit more of a balance than that. Now, their offensive line isn't great, but I think the Vic Fangio hire is critical. Look, they got Vic Fangio, and Vic Fangio was waiting. He was waiting for the Philadelphia job to open up. And he was told that it wasn't going to open, that Gannon wasn't going to get that job in Arizona. He took the Miami job, right?

And so then two days later, after Vic had signed a contract with Miami, all of a sudden Gannon takes the Arizona job, and Philly, who wanted Vic first, and Vic wanted Philly first, all of a sudden Gannon takes the Arizona job and Philly, who wanted Vic first, and Vic wanted Philly first, all of a sudden he's in a different place. But I think Vic and Miami will be critical. But Vic is going to want to make some kind of symmetry between the team, the working together. You know, he's not going to want to just throw it up there and see what we do, you know,

and take shots down the field. You've got to protect your quarterback a better way and I think it behooves Mike McDaniel to run the ball a little bit more to set that off would Cook help them tremendously do they have the cap room look they're all in and they've tried to do that but they got to pay they're gonna have to pay to if he stays healthy so I think they're gonna have to try to see if they get him on a bargain deal you just mentioned Dalvin Cook there to Miami. And then in your previous answer, you said Dalvin Cook to the Patriots would be something. Is there any interest from either side there?

Or is that just something you're kind of projecting into the world? You know, I look at it from the lens of a GM. Like Washington, to me, should be all over Dalvin Cook because they need a running back that can be electric, right? Robinson averaged 3-9 a carry. Robinson averaged 3-9 a carry. Gibson averaged 3-9 a carry. They don't have a playmaker. When they had J.D. McKissick, they were very good offensively,

and then he got hurt. Remember, he was the kid that signed with Buffalo, and then Washington lured him back. Now Washington's going through an ownership change, so maybe that's limiting how much funds they can spend. We'll know about that come July 20th. But I'm projecting that based on what I think would be the fits that would make the team better.

If Washington had Dalvin Cook to go along with Sam Howell, a rookie, in Eric Bien-Ami's West Coast offense, I think that would really take a lot of pressure off the young quarterback. Speaking of quarterbacks, go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Lambeau, last year you very eloquently put that Russ Wilson, you know, they wanted to let him cook, but he was basically just a short-order cook at the Hackensack Diner, looked like shit all year long.

With them getting Sean Payton, do you think that he's really going to unlock Russell Wilson, and do you think that the Broncos are going to look much, much better this year? Yeah, I do. I think they will be a better, they'll be a harder, look, they played a lot of close games. They mismanaged a lot of games last year

and they had opportunities. He'll make Russell better because what he's not going to do is something that Russell can't do. And if Russell doesn't want to step up in the pocket, if Russell doesn't want to get hit, then Sean's going to make hard decisions. I mean, Sean didn't sign Russell.

That's always the difference, right? When you take over a program and you didn't sign the guy, you want the guy to succeed, but you don't have loyalty to the guy. This isn't your name on that contract. Russell's got a lot to prove, and I think he's going to meet the challenge. Look, he's got to be willing to take the hit. Two years ago in Seattle, he had the lowest rushing total he had. He's a quarterback that needs to move around in the pocket.

I think Denver will be a tougher team to play. There's no question. I think they'll be better coached. But coaching matters, right? We know this. I mean, coaching matters. Because let's look at the New York football giants with Brian Daybald and Mike Kafka did and Don Martindale. What they were able to accomplish there with essentially pretty much the same team. They got them better coached. They got things going. I think it'll help certainly in Denver. And Denver is not a team to take lightly. They are talented. Now, they are a talented team.

And Sean is a good head coach and a great play caller. Completely forgot about Wink over there in New York. Yeah. That was a massive story last year because we thought he potentially deserved a head coaching job, maybe one even here in Indianapolis. And now it's like he's just a part of the New York football Giants culture and those boys loved him completely different football team before he arrived but verse after he arrived they got a squad over there if they can figure it out with Saquon

who knows if they're able to do that they're not the only team that's in the middle of a running back contract situation go ahead Connor yeah Lambeau with the Raiders I know you're very tied in there as well with your son coaching there. What's going on with Josh Jacobs? He's tweeting stuff. Clearly he either hates your son. I don't know that for a fact. It's okay, Connor.

I love your mullet anyway. It's okay. Thank you. I appreciate that very much. But what's going on with him? And then also, I saw you talking on your show about the jimmy g contract is that situation just kind of gonna go away or is something actually gonna happen with uh his injury and everything look i think what happened let's start with jimmy g first jimmy g came in

and everybody thought his he was going to pass his physical and he didn't he still had the one the fifth metatarsal that wasn't healed so So what the Raiders did and Donnie did his agent, they sat down in the room and they said, how do we make this where everybody can succeed? And so they put a waiver clause in and they decided to put a screw in his foot. They knew he would be ready for training camp, but he wasn't going to be in the off season program. This was decided back in April.

And so therefore they deferred the signing bonus until he can pass the physical, which he will. And I think he's on track to do that. And I think he's been instrumental in their team in the offseason in terms of building the camaraderie. Jimmy G has a unique ability to get people to follow him. He is really well liked. And his teammates like him. You could see it in San Francisco. Look, Josh Jacobs is upset. Let me say this. Here's the key point to remember. This season will be the first year in the last three years where there will be 10 running backs making $10 million or more.

The last two years, if you combine the last two years, there have only been six running backs combined that made over $10 million. The market is there for running backs to get paid. It just isn't to the level that they want to get paid, right? And I don't disagree to an extent, especially if you make an impact in the passing game, right? If you're a factor like Josh Jacobs can be in the passing game, you're going to get paid. And I think eventually they will. But the problem with running backs is they don't get to a second contract.

So their numbers don't go up. So the franchise tag doesn't rise itself people are paying more running backs than the media is letting you believe again there are 10 backs three of them are franchise that are getting paid over 10 million okay so what you talked about there is an interesting thing i hadn't thought about though a lot of the super talented running backs that might reset a market, their contracts are being cut short because of injury or maybe not panning out or whatever. So the franchise tag doesn't have these game changers lifting it up

like a wide receiver where the market continues to grow and it showcases that in a franchise tag. So it's hard for a team when the franchise tag is what it is not to place it on a running back because from business-wise, this is great value, especially if it's Josh Jacobs who's not only good in the passing game, the running game, he also throws the fucking ball with a broken thumb. We saw McDaniels trust him to throw a ball with a broken thumb.

So you do what you said there though is like Josh Jacobs is, and you think that'll get done. You think that'll get done? You think the Saquon thing will get done? How do you think those go about getting done? I look, I think the giants have been overly loyal to their players. Look, they love their players, and they love their draft picks. I think it's a validation for them when their draft picks come through. So, like, they pay Daniel Jones.

Do you think Daniel Jones is worth that contract? I don't, but they feel like he is. And so, Saquon, I think they will pay Saquon. Do I think they'll pay Josh Jacobs I think if the number's right they will look look here's the reality of the running back that they make such a huge impact on the team but they don't have so many bites of an apple and the other thing is this is a simple I they taught me this at Hofstra it's economics right supply and demand there's more supply of running backs than there are the demand right right? So therefore the prices don't go, it goes that way. It's an economic

equation. But I think Jacobs, what he did in the passing game surprised me last year. The one thing I don't think you can do is just pay a run. Look, Nick Chubb's making 12 million a year. You know, those guys are good runners and they have to make plays in the passing game. Eckler's only going to make $8 million if he hits his incentives. There's no better player than Eckler in the red zone or catching balls out of the backfield. Those guys are dynamic.

Aaron Jones took a pay cut to $11 million, and he's as good as you can get in terms of all three phases. He has some back-shoulder catches with Aaron. He scored five touchdowns in one game, four touchdowns in another massive game. I mean, he's a player. If you get in the end zone, you'd think they would want to pay you, but weird time to be a running back. Everything's cyclical there, right?

Isn't it? Don't you think? Yeah. Well, I think the running – look, I've said this many times. I would rather pay a running back who can get nine and a half. Kamara's going to make $11 million. He averaged a 9.6 a catch. When you can make an impact – when Gurley was good with the Rams,

he was over 10. When Sean McVay had him going early, he was over 10 yards a catch. That's dynamic. That's what you want. It's not screens and flats. It's be a part of the pass. That's why Edrin James was so good. I truly believe this. The running back makes the spread. If the back is great and you have to defend the run and the pass in the box, and it makes your receivers much better. We were a better offensive team when Charlie Gardner was in the backfield at the three receivers. It wasn't Brown or Rice. It was Gardner that made that spread really effective.

So to your point about Edrin James, Joseph Adai was running back whenever I got in. Watching him work his routes after practice or whatever, you know, in running back, obviously. But, like, the attention to detail he had in, like, with Peyton, obviously, you're not going to get the fucking ball if you're not right where you are. He said, but I want people to think, like, when I'm running my routes, I'm a wide receiver.

That's what I am. You have to be dual threat, I guess. The more you can do, the more money you're going to make. But it feels like the running back position is certainly in an interesting spot tone has a question for you paizan lomba it feels like um a lot of people think it's a foregone conclusion that the bangles are going to win the afc north but with the sean having another another year there you know mon can come into the ravens steelers have finally have an old line an nfl line for the first time in years do you think it's foregone conclusion that the Bengals win the North? No, I mean, the last two years, Tony, they've gone to start at five and

four and they really rallied back. They kind of had that great second half of the season. I love the Bengals. They got a lot of moving parts on defense this year. I think Cleveland's a sleeper team here because I think Jim Schwartz will make a difference in their defense. They've got good rushers on the edge. You obviously with Miles Garrett, they get Zedarius Smith. They're going to be better defensively. One thing about a Jim Schwartz defense, go back to Tennessee or even Philadelphia, they make you one-dimensional. You've got to throw the ball.

He's going to play those wide nines. You can't run bootlegs and nakeds on his team. And they're going to make you have to throw the ball to beat them. And that team, they've got a lot of – they've got first-round picks in their secondary. And I don't think Watson can play as bad as they've got first-round picks in their secondary. And I don't think Watson can play as bad as he did. They have a really good offensive line.

Nick Chubb's an elite player. I think this is a team, if they don't do dumb things, fourth and inches at their own 25 in the first quarter, go for it. I think, to me, they can be really good. And Pittsburgh's going to be better. And I think Baltimore with Lamar Jackson, if they get them under center more and run boots and nakeds with them, I think they're going to be better too. So I think that'll be a fun division to watch. I really do. I don't know if there's a clear-cut favorite. I mean, everybody, look, Pittsburgh last year, I mean, all you got to do

is listen to Mike Tomlin talk to the team and you know players are going to play hard for him. He had his least talented team and he won more games than Cleveland did last year. That's a remarkable coaching job. Well, a lot more games than the Colts won, too. Yeah, well, no one. Most people had more wins than the Colts. Nah, three picks ahead of him. Fuck off.

Ahead, AJ, please. We had picked four. Just those three. Yeah, but still, to what you said, it was a lot. Don't lie with that mullet. Well, you were tied with Arizona, actually, so just two, I think. Just don't with the mullet, please. Look up.

Colts are fucked. Why don't we? No, no, remember what Orlando said. No, we're back. We're back. We're, we're, we're. They paid everybody, Lambeau. They paid everybody.

They paid all the positions that you think you would need to play to have a good team. And then we got picked number four. It's, are we the worst team in the fucking AFC? Possibly. I don't think they are. I mean, they beat Kansas City at home. I know it was a fluke. We were there.

We watched. It was a special team game. But to me, no team is as bad as you think they are. And if they get play out of it, I don't know if Richardson can do it. I think Richardson's a redshirt year away from doing it for me. And I'm not sure how that's all going to manifest itself in the six-pack offense. But they wanted to keep Gus Bradley as the defensive coordinator.

That's probably the reason why Don Martindale's not the head coach there is because they wanted to keep Bradley, and they're going to have to play good defense, run the football, and try to win close games. Go ahead, AJ. We will. Lombo, you mentioned the Browns kind of being a sleeper pick in the AFC. Is there anyone in the NFC that may be flying under the radar right now that could be better than we expect?

I like Seattle's team. I do. I like Seattle's team. You start two rookies at tackles, they're only going to get better the second year. I think defensively they finally have a three technique in Daquan Jones. They get another corner in the secondary with Witherspoon. They get Njoke to play the slot receiver, which they needed to go along with their outside guys, which are outstanding. I think this is a really good team, and they're going to be better defensively. I know they made the playoffs last year, but I think they can... What's his name, Lombo? I call him Njoko, Jobu.

Talking about Jackson Smith and Jigba, right? Yep. And Jigba, there you go. I get it. I didn't know if it was another player. Hey, you weren't even close on that one. Normally, you're in the ballpark. That's why we used to nickname players all the time so we would do it. I think Green Bay is better than people think they are.

Now, here's why. Green Bay was not good last year. Too young. They didn't change the offense around what Aaron was. You know, they kept trying to run the Devontae Adams offense, and they didn't have Devontae Adams. It's hard to do. Christian Watson wasn't ready to play.

Romeo Dobbs wasn't ready to play. I mean, it was hard. No tight, it's hard. But defensively, in the last five games of the season, they only gave up 17 points. They held Detroit in two games to 35 points. If they're healthy on defense, right, and if they try to use their two running backs, which is the strength of their team, both backs average over five yards a carry.

And if LeFleur will manage the game and not call plays, they can be better than seven and a half wins. I mean, they're not a team devoid of talent. But you've got to be able to adjust. When you have one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, and then all of a sudden he doesn't have his receivers, you just can't keep doing what he did. That's why Brady started out, they were running the ball,

and by the end they were always throwing. There's the change in careers and change based on your team. It's a big year for LeFleur. Defensively, they're not bad. I mean, they held Detroit in two games to 35 points. And Detroit's offense is what, top what? Top three in the league. Now, understand their offense scored 24 points against Detroit in two games.

So there has to be some adjustment. But I think to me, Chicago and Green Bay having the same win projection total is ridiculous. Chicago, what makes them better on defense? Yeah, but we knew you were going to come in and take some shots at Chicago. Always do. Yeah, Zito knew you were going to come in and take some shots at Chicago. Always do. Zito is a Chicago Bears fan. He's always like, why is Lambeau always going to attack

the Bears? I'm not on Chicago. He should thank me. I told everybody Mitchell Trubisky wasn't any good. They all killed me. They said, don't even come to Chicago. You're not getting a hot dog. There's no way. You're a jerk. And now all of a sudden, well, he was right about that. Look, I'm just telling you, I think you've got to be good before you get great.

Right? I'm not saying Chicago is going to be a disaster. But, like, to get the seven wins with Matt Iverflus, I think he would have a good chance. I mean, that's a good job. Right? Like, they were horrible last year. They were 31st in offense, defense.

Number one overall pick. Number one overall pick. Number one overall pick. I mean, that gets forgotten because the Carolina Panthers do the trade. Yeah, I mean, and they don't take Jalen Carter. They moved down and they made some moves. They've got to fix their offensive line. I don't hate the Bears. I don't.

31st in this, 31st in this. They move down and don't take Jalen Carter. They have to get good before they get great. They're 31st in this. They're 31st in this. They move on. They don't take Jalen Carter. They have to get good before they get great. I mean, I think there's an evolution to winning games. I don't think you just all of a sudden become like, okay, the Spurs draft Wemby last night. Okay.

Are they going to go from 21 wins to 60 wins? No, I don't think they are, even if the kid's great. If they get to 40 wins, that would be a miracle. Right? I think there's an evolution. I've heard he's great. I've heard he's great. If they get the 40 wins, that would be a miracle, right? I think it's an evolution. I've heard he's great. I've heard he's great. Generational.

You've heard he's generational because that's all they told you. I don't know what that means, but that's what they told me. That's great. Back to the draft talk. I guess you just brought up something that we should ask you about. Fuck. It wasn't about Wemby. What were you just hitting on? The Bears.

Packers. Good to great. Packers. Evilby. What were you just hitting on? Bears. Packers. Good degree. Packers. Bears. What are you being so negative about? It's a possibility. Running the offense without Devontae. Nah, I forget what it was. Fuck it. I'll get you next time, bro. Hey, thank you for joining us. I'm around. I'm not going anywhere. I'm around. It's all summer.

It's vacation time, you know, so we're all here. We're just studying the games. It'll be fun. You going down the boardwalk or what do you got going on for the weekend? I don't know if I'm going to do the Boardwalk today, but I'm going to get on that beach. Yeah, it's nice. Once the sun comes out, you know, it's a good time to be here, and hopefully when my grandkids get here, it'll be even better.

So they're coming soon. That'll be the best part. All right. Well, we appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks, guys. Michael Lombardi. Yeah, Lombardi! God, it's going to come to me in about two seconds.

Yeah. It didn't. It's still gone. Okay. Not the worst thing then. I don't remember. This one's for Lombo. For Lombo! Automatic. What's that one about? It's because it's for the elephants. Hey, speaking of,

I didn't know that they didn't tell me in my 23andMe. Trunks up. That one we keep close to. They didn't tell me in my 23andMe. Okay, when I. Yeah. Trunks up. That one we keep close to. It didn't tell me.

Hey, elephants. And of course, I got a trunk up elephant in my apartment. But as soon as. Yeah. Bingo. I've seen a bunch of them, though. Yeah. They're common.

As he mentioned it, I don't think I've ever stopped and asked about them. But I've seen the trunk up elephant. Yep. That's good luck. They're showering you with good luck. And they're all excited too. Elephants are sweet. Zeta, you play a trumpet?

Oh yeah. You have to do that with your lips, yeah. I remember they said, can you do this? They gave me about 14 seconds to try it. I couldn't do it. They said, no, you're not in bed. Nah, you're a sax guy. Not even that. I think I just got moved completely. Get the fuck out of here.

Oh, really? I think I got moved completely. We got moved to coloring. Yeah, bingo. Because I did play the recorder, I think, Hot Cross Buns. Oh, yeah. That's the last instrument that I played.

What did we do if you weren't in band? Bro, I was in a music class. Yeah, you went to music class. You learned about music. Or set design. So I was in choir. I played no instruments. No, you actually took to music class. You learned about music. Or set design. So I was in choir. I played no instruments. No, you actually took a music class.

It was like in 1950. This was the best artist. It was the worst. Yeah, I had no idea. He gave me 30 seconds to figure out if I can, and I couldn't. And then I got to take this fucking music class? The teacher was a good guy. Teacher was a good dude.

Kind of entertaining. Did a doper? I mean, it had a G and it didn't that one wasn't even close that's awesome that is awesome love you Lombo

oh a lot of those today yeah too many what would Jay and R. Yeah. Too many. What would Jay Nore do? Joe. WWJDD. Make it rain. For the Doppler! Oh, no. I just spit

on his face. Sorry. No, no. It's okay. Love you, Joe. He always continues to try. You know? Let's get the hell out of here. I've made enough shots this week. You did make a lot of shots this week. Too many shots. Rest in peace, Joe. Love you, Joe.

Joe's gone. That's the Thunderdome. That's Joe DiNardo. AJ, do you have anything to say about Doppler Joe DiNardo? Every time that picture comes up, it's amazing. It's the pollen count, isn't it? Yeah, it's definitely pollen. It's harder to shoot.

It's pollen. I mean, I'm throwing through smog here. It's pollen. It's harder to shoot. It's tough. Those fires are still affecting it, too. Just have to calculate. Boom.

There it is. Just have to calculate. Yeah, just remember. Just have to calculate. For you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. All right, everybody. Thanks for watching all week. Thank you to all of. Yeah, just remember. Just have to calculate it. For you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. All right, everybody.

Thanks for watching all week. Thank you to all of our guests that stopped by. You know, these summer days are fun. Yeah, they are. An absolute shit show sometimes. Absolutely. It's fun. You wake up in the morning on these types of days and you go,

oh, got to talk for three hours today. Get to talk for three hours a day. What are we talking about? And then you start scanning your phone. You just keep scanning your phone. You keep scanning your phone. You see a couple of cool tweets and memes. Yeah.

It's like, all right, maybe we talk about that for two hours and 45 minutes. Sure. And then turns out, like, probably not. Like, probably not our thing to talk. Maybe five to seven. Yeah, maybe not. So those who stick with us through these days, we truly appreciate. Oh, yeah.

And know that we do have a launch date that has been confirmed, but it will not be announced. Not yet. Yet. Sometime, though. It will be announced that we will be live sometime. Yep. And that announcement will come sometime.

That's exactly right. Things are coming together, though, pretty nicely. Oh, yeah. Happy for Shannon Sharp. Yeah. That was news right. Things are coming together though pretty nicely. Oh yeah. Happy for Shannon Sharp. Yeah. That was news this week, right? Yeah. Happy for Shannon Sharp.

Everybody was saying that he was going to replace us at FanDuel. I don't fully understand what that means because FanDuel is our exclusive sports book. Yeah, I'm not sure.

So if they become the exclusive sports book of Club Shea Shea, I guess that would be our replacement over there. We are not on FanDuel TV or any of that type of stuff, but every time they said replace us, I just think

some people took it as job. I took it as yes, that would be a great person to potentially be the face of what you have going on on the internet, on TV and everything like that. We hope it takes place. We hope Shane Sharp gets a massive bag. Ex-player who kicks so much

ass on a microphone. We actually miss him in the sports media world not being on every single day. Yeah, sure. So we hope that is the case. What else happened this week? Of course, Titan. Submarine. Ocean Gate. We would like to offer our condolences to the family members of those that died in that tube, also you guys let them do it so yeah but i understand

it sucks and on you though the kid we learned about yeah he was not psyched did you hear about that yeah i was just thinking of like as they're bolting them in how many of them are thinking oh this this doesn't feel right so i've been in jail you know before okay what a line october 20th 2010 4 a.m 4 30 4 15 a.m i get booked into a thing they have me in a holding area but in a cell within the holding area because i'm a special inmate amongst all the potential inmates that are checking in. It's like the lobby area before you get fingerprinted, photoed, sent to either court to get out of there or into a cell waiting for a later date or whatever. For a public intoxication, you're waiting to get into your court, and then you're out of there. Yep.

So that's what it was. When they shut that door, though, like uh oh shit i have no say when that fucker's open at all you know what i mean and then i smell the shit smell coming out of the toilet i'm like what is this what is i'm in quite a spot here you know and then i just kind of sat down i couldn't even fathom if it was a tube going two miles deep and it was 17 of them 17 locks across the top from the outside not able to get in is what they said I believe and they're now saying that at an hour and 45 minutes in they lost service and at two hours in it blew up yeah it imploded that thing wasn't even close to being able to make it

now down to two miles of depth and all that, which leads us even more to believe, like, obviously the people that own that ocean gate or whatever it is, there's going to be some sort of fucking something. It wasn't rated. It wasn't rated to go that deep. They came out and said that.

It was rated to, like, 1,300 meters, and they need to go 3,000 meters or whatever. The waiver, though. That's, like, what the waiver said. Like, you can die doing this. It's not safe. Yeah. Jeez.

Sad situation if you just think about humans dying. Yes. Potentially hilarious situation thinking about how dumb humans are, though. We took the latter, but we also understand the former. For sure. And we'd like to hammer home the fact, stop doing dumb shit. Yeah. Okay?

You don't have to do everything. Okay? I've done a lot in my life. Got very fortunate to be offered to do a lot of things. Some things, though, they smell dumb. They are. Don't have to do everything. Nope.

Especially life-threatening stuff. What's that, AJ? Try to, like, maybe just have a couple safety protocols if you do want to do something risky there you go i can't believe they made it any missions on that yeah i know they've done it the last three years right yeah so i wonder if it's crazy i wonder if it like you know you open the cap or something like loosen it oh yeah and then somebody else opens it yep i wonder if it going down there it was able to take it and then it just kind of weakened it over time what it was made of yeah after i listened to jim cameron did a talk about it and he was like no like the fact that it was two different kinds of metals or

whatever they carbon fiber and something else and jim cameron's like no like everything we've ever done in the past is either like one all steel or all one thing it's not two things combined jim cameron also said it pretty symbolic of the titanic where everybody was telling the captain of the ship he shouldn't do this can't do this gotta stop the glassieres right there now we're gonna forge the river bang rose jack enough space for two people on that piece of wood rose claims it for herself jacked out bottom of the ocean dead basically exactly now i believe the ocean gate people ceo was on there yeah i believe the ocean gate people including ceo

been told like you guys need the you guys are really rolling the dice yeah but they're paying a fucking quarter million every time we get on it's a million bucks come on well you're just a hater because you're not making a million bucks every time you take a trip down the bottom of the ocean and we get to see a Titanic. Fuck off. It's like, let's start thinking about how awesome it is to be alive. There you go. And how waking up is cool, you know?

There's a lot of people that don't make it to tomorrow out of nowhere. And there's situations that become emergencies and people go through stuff that we hear about. And we always just assume, hey, people are going to be back on the other side. Science, doctor, they got them. Until one of your actual friends goes through something and they don't make it back. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell just happened? A little sense of reality slapping you in the mouth, letting you know

perspective a little bit. It's great to be alive. Let's enjoy the hell out of this weekend. We will see you on Monday. Don't get into any tubes. Yeah. Okay? Unless it's an inner tube. On a lake. Boom. Or a river. Yes, right. Or a big ass stream.

Or a pool. That's about it though. Don't be getting in puddles. Everybody knows you're drunk. No, no, no. You put an inner tube on a puddle, everybody knows you're drunk in public. Pool. So try not to do that. Zito, he just put some alarming news on his feel-good Friday in the Thunderdome.

NASA warns of internet apocalypse that could disable the internet for months. I thought this was a... We already talked about this. Yep. That's not real. Know that that's not real. Actually, it might be, but there's nothing we can do about it. We reported it.

Just know that we are going to have the greatest weekend of all time. Enjoy your summer. Enjoy your friends. Enjoy your family. And we will see you on Overreaction Monday after we talk about the Travelers. What? Who I guess there's some guys really dialed in right now. The guy that Tony cashed out of winning this thing,

which would have won him multiple thousands of dollars, still going. Way up there. He's not going to win. A lot of golf left. Let's enjoy it all. Let's enjoy life. Let's watch some good shit. AJ, great week. We appreciate you. Toxic Table, great week. Mullet, welcome to the family. Tone, great work. Behind the Glass,

way to kick some ass, boys. Way to kick ass. Mid on the phone's not your best week. Let's get better next week. Let's get better next week. Let's get better next week. Dirty great work on the graphics. Bruce Ebron, what a life. Good boy, Bruce. How do you make it, Bruce?

Great fives all week, Bruce. Great fives all week. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Everybody take care. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their entire life. Goodbye.