The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 934 - Ian Rapoport, Jeff Passan, Congressman Mike Gallagher

Episode Date: June 27, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about LSU winning the College World Series, and all the different pertinent news stories floating around the NFL including Dalvin Cook to the Jets potentially and where DeAndre Hopkins might wind up. Joining the show before he hits the golf course is NFL Network Sr. Insider, Ian Rapoport to chat about Dalvin Cook, DeAndre Hopkins, full-time refs, and much more (17:48-37:29). Next, ESPN MLB Insider Jeff Passan joins the show to chat about the College World Series, how many of these guys we’ll see in the bigs and how soon, the brilliance of Shohei Ohtani, what’s going on with the Oakland A’s, and more (1:17:53-1:46:16). Later, Congressman Mike Gallagher from the 7th Congressional District of Wisconsin joins the show to chat about Aliens, the state of politics, and much much more (1:46:18-2:40:37). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this wild Louisiana seems to be the state of National Champions Tuesday, June 27, 2023. Program starts now. Sports! Louisiana, the state, Don Aaron is south in the bayou. It's hot. It's swampy. But what they have proven is that their fans like to have a good time and their players are fucking incredible at what they do look out for brian kelly and the lsu football team to turn it around this upcoming season and i know they went on a run and won in the sec championship game because they had a favorable schedule but they got good late they're gonna have to because that school is not gonna slow down for the football team to be ass that That is just not how it's going to go down there.

Obviously, we all saw Angel Reese with the you can't see me to Caitlin Clark's face and the ring me, which was a nice callback to Joe Burrow, who did the ring me at LSU. And now the national champions of baseball for this particular season are the LSU Tigers. Wow. Big congratulations. Didn't even have to see the number one overall pick coming up in the draft,

Mr. Skeens, although we did see him warm up. He threw a fucking softball, big baseball thing. Looked like it was coming out 85, 90 miles an hour. And then he did a little do-si-do throw. We thought maybe he would come in to clean it up, maybe to close it. Have the ball in the hand of the man who's the best baseball player that's ever been through your program is how people were describing it and let him be the one that won it and then the games start happening they're like dude like cool

story i guess after you throw 100 and some pitches a couple days and you're like old school you're a guy you win it we're up fucking 14 runs right now you don't have to do any we can actually we'll put all the guys on our bullpen in for just like two pitches. Simple. Everybody will get a chance to be in the World Series. We'll get a bunch of experience. Always good. The LSU Tigers bounce back after getting humiliated 24 to 4 or whatever

and end up putting a throttling on the Florida Gators who had a hell of a run. Yeah, good run. Hell of a run, Florida Gators. Hell of a run again. That was a good run out there in Omaha. Now, number five overall seed, LSU, takes on number two overall seed, Florida. LSU wins in dominant fashion. And I would like to say to college baseball, thank you for filling in the gaps.

You did good. Omaha was a good time. Now, we all know Ryan McGee had to listen to Shake Blanton last night from all the way immediately after that World Series game ended until about 3, 4 in the morning because G-E-A-U-X Tigers were going all night long, I would assume. Need a country musician in the parking lot of the Hilton. They were getting out. That Omaha run there, two weeks, pretty electrifying.

Oh, yeah. Long, too. I'm happy we got into it. Now, at the beginning, I think we were maybe watching some teams that we were told was going to go on. Wake was supposed to go on a big-time run, I believe. Vandy, maybe. Yeah, at the beginning, I think we were maybe watching some teams that we were told was going to go on. Wake was supposed to go on a big-time run, I believe. Vandy, maybe. Yeah, Vandy's always good.

Vandy, Tennessee, I think was supposed to go. Oral Roberts was in it. And instead, at the end, it's the two best players that were playing in the thing, the number one overall pick and the Golden Spikes Award winner who turned down millions of dollars, I guess, a couple years ago, already been drafted high. Dylan Cruz, I think is his name. He was a a stud seemed to make contact with every single pitch that happened it was fun to learn about it was fun to pass the time so at the beginning of this entire tournament i said i'm be honest i'm never gonna fucking watch this no chance there is little to no chance because i don't watch the mlb so i just assumed college would be worse than the mlb

it was awesome. Watching those games was fun. It felt like every single pitch mattered. It felt like there was actual momentum and feelings and vibes. And obviously the crowds have been going bananas the entire time in Omaha. It's kind of a part of it. But I like the vibes. I like the energy.

I like the tourney. And I like the fact that LSU seems to be a fucking wagon in sports. Good luck to anybody in any, except for Rifle, West Virginia. That's true. That's a good point. Just fucking killing LSU seems to be a fucking wagon in sports. Good luck to anybody except for Rifle, West Virginia. That's true. That's a good point. Just fucking killing LSU. And Montana State. Montana State with the rodeo. Yeah, LSU's got no shot against the Montana State rodeo.

No, they don't. They got no shot. But it feels like in everything else, LSU is only gaining steam, getting stronger and better, which I think is great news for a beautiful place down there in Baton Rouge. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt, at Boston Conner's mullet. One half of the hammer, Cowboys Town Digs is here. And 14-year NFL icon and rapper, ladies and gentlemen, I'm Pac Manjone.

Pac, great article written about you in The Athletic by Zach Kiefer. I hope the world gets to see it. Incredible story of, you know, making some fuck-ups and then bouncing back, being a good role model, being a good human, and making the most of this life and not throwing it all away, which you certainly could have done it a couple different times, much like myself and many other people. So good on you, Pac.

Lucky to have you here. Let's go. Lucky to have you here, bud. Let's dive back into LSU, though, here. Ty, I felt so bad for that pitcher for Florida. A lot of action. Tag, Leon. Ooh, a lot of action. Jack Taney. Hey, this guy here. Ty. Mm-hmm. I felt so bad for that pitcher for Florida. A lot of action. Tag, Lee. Ooh, a lot of action.

Hey, this guy was supposed to be the number one. He's going to be the number one overall pick next year, allegedly, this guy. Mm-hmm. Ping. Defensive end size. Mm-hmm. Big son of a bitch. Hits and pitches.

Yeah. Just going for a strike. No. And that's a heartbreaker. It happened to that one tight end that ended up playing in the NFL. He was throwing 90-something. Hayden Hurst. Yeah, Hayden that ended up playing in the NFL. He was throwing 90-something. Hayden Hurst. Yeah, Hayden Hurst.

Hayden Hurst. He was throwing 90-something. He gets drafted, supposed to be a guy. Then he makes it to the majors. God, can't throw a strike. Nope. Just for whatever reason, it would be this far outside or inside, this far outside, just complete mental blockage that happened.

And I guess baseball is something where that could easily take place because small sweet spot, have to be able to do a repeat repeatable motion and you have to do it on a consistent basis much like golf much like everything else you could see how people get in there he just couldn't throw a fucking strike last night and I think it was tough to watch I felt bad for the poor paisano from Florida yeah for sure I read uh a McGee article that basically said like that is kind of the knock on him is like he's bound to throw like a 95 mile an hour fastball behind a guy. And then on his next pitch, he'll throw like a,

you know, an ACE level MLB breaking ball for a strike. But that's kind of, I mean, we were talking about it yesterday and I wasn't shitting on the kid when people were saying, you know, like,

Oh, Tani and stuff like that. Cause I wasn't, cause he's unbelievable. But we've talked about it time and time again. What Otani is doing, he is a once-in-every-millennia type player. He is the only guy who is maybe the best pitcher and the best hitter. There are guys in college who can hit and pitch for sure,

but you just see how hard it is. I don't want to say he lost in the game, but he couldn't throw strikes. By the time he's out, he throws one and one-thirds innings. They're down six to two, and then he's supposed to be their big bat. I'm sure that probably eats at you. You're pitching a little bit. He strikes out three times at the plate. You're relying on this guy big time.

That's baseball. That happens sometimes. They were saying, Shohei, and I think they were trying to get the casuals to understand like, hey, this guy's pitching and hitting. Special. Just like with Shohei, Babe Ruth. And I think in college baseball, I don't know enough about it. Happens a lot more.

I would assume. Okay, it does. But I think what you were most upset about is like, whenever we in the football world go into the draft, this guy's the next Tom Brady. It's like. Come on. No, he's not.

Okay. What, his body? Do we know his brain? Do we know if sitting at a dinner in a restaurant in Utah, the opposing team's head coach walks in, compliments him, asks if he could buy his dinner, and then continues to walk on, and that person is going to say that disrespectful motherfucker and go dominate after already being named the best player of all time?

We have no idea. It's in between the earlobes. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. It's in between the ears, which is what makes people great. You see a lot of body shapes and body sizes being able to accomplish things that many other people can't. Why can that person do that and that person can't? Well, mentally, that's a fucking dog right there.

That person right there is an absolute dog. Well, mentally, that's a fucking dog right there. That person right there is an absolute dog. Competitive, Joseph, stamina, everything that you could potentially need to be able to focus and become great on something is just a little bit different at these tops. So I think what you potentially got was a little bit offended. Like, okay, hey. He's got a sophomore in college.

Because I was also one of the guys when Otani was first doing it who was like, okay, well, he needs to continue. Like, coming in and doing it one year is insanely impressive. But if you're saying this guy's the best baseball player of all time, like, he needs to do it year after year after year, and he has. Like, he's fucking unbelievable. So now just the –

Not the dog on this kid. No, not at all. He just had a bad night. No, not at all. He had a bad night, and he'll never be Shohei Otani. Right. But doesn't need to be. Exactly.

To be a great baseball player. Absolutely. You can still get drafted number one, and he's going to hit in the MLB, and he's going to field, and that's fine. But it's like, guess what? A guy who is Shohei Otani, he's not walking six guys in the College World Series. He's just not. He's just not.

This guy is probably, I mean, and I could be wrong. Do you feel a little negative right now the way we're talking about this? Well, it's because it was just so overwhelming, and then you say something like that, and everyone else gets offended like he is Otani. He's not, which is fine, but I just felt, I really, yeah, I wanted to get that out there because, again, he's unbelievable.

He'll probably win the Golden Spikes next year, but let's just, to your point about the Brady stuff, like, let's pump the brakes. Like we got a guy who is an actual avatar, one-in-a-billion type player. Like every time someone else comes up and does something similar, we don't need to be like, well, this guy's the next Otani. What were your thoughts on the College World Series there, Pat? Did you get to watch any of it?

Yeah, I did, man. It was a lot of action to me. And the games, like the fans was really into it. You're looking at baseball right now, besides the A's, Cincinnati, the crowd is not really into it. Hey, Cincinnati packed out the stadium two times here this past weekend against the Braves. And they gave them a fucking game on a Friday night.

11-10? Ellie hits for the cycle? That's like if you paid for a ticket, what are you looking for? I want to see action. I want to see the guy that I just fell in love with a couple weeks ago. I would like him to do something remarkable. It's like, oh yeah, he hit the quickest cycle in the history of baseball.

In the history of 19 games it took him or something like that. Absurd. Other people took like however many, 64 games or something like that. The exact stats. So if you want to that game, what a treat. What an absolute treat. Seriously. And then the next day

the Braves beat them and then next day somebody else beat them and then next day somebody else. Oh, no. Yeah. They're all three.

Oh, no. Yeah, it's over. Oh, we'll talk to A.J. Hawk in the next hour. Noted Cincinnati Reds fan. Also, Pac, I think he's kind of dabbled a little bit if they're having success.

Well, it depends who's going to the World Series, but yeah. Braves and the Reds. I live in Cincinnati. Of course, I'm supporting the Reds. I love the Braves. Of course.

So, like, I'm biased in that series, but I'm with those two teams. Yeah, unless the Braves lose in the, you know, in the NLCS, then. Well, definitely not with the Pirates. A lot of baseball. We've talked a lot of baseball. Somebody tried to call in yesterday and talk Pirates-Marlins. That was aggressive. Can't do that.

What are we doing? Even when we're bored about talking about something, we don't need you throwing in something worse. The phones are an additive. The 5RNG phone line, 1-833-433-3663, 1-833-4. Da-dum. We're looking for something. Yeah.

We're looking for something. That's right. And when they deliver, it's awesome. We need you. We're out there. Yes. Positive in it. We need something.

Especially right now. Think about us just pulling in a stick from the bottom that says Pirates Marlins. We're like,. We need something. Especially right now. Think about us just pulling in a stick from the bottom. Pirates, Marlins. You wasted our time. You broke our line. And you can't fucking do shit with this. Thank you. Hang up.

See ya. That person thought it was going to be great. I should have listened to the take. Maybe it would have got a little bit better. No, it was dog shit. We'll talk to Jet Passon next hour. That'll be even more baseball talk. I can't wait to hear Jet's thoughts on college baseball

because we've only heard him potentially talk about the majors. He was on the college coverage. They had his ass sitting on a desk, suit and tie, hair clothed perfectly, and he was doing the whole thing. I'm excited to get his thoughts on what college baseball is. And also, like that Golden Spikes award winner, Dylan Cruz, he looks so cool. Oh, yeah. Great style.

Is he in the majors next week? When do I get to see him on TV playing for? Hopefully next season. Yeah, I would say. There's a chance he'll progress pretty quickly. They said he's been the best player in college baseball for the last three years. Just unbelievable hitter, good center fielder.

He is a guy who you'd think would kind of. What is quick? What is quick, Ty? Because quick is like five years. No, next year. That's a good call, actually. I heard he's going to be a pirate if they can pay him or not. No, it's the Paul Skanes.

Paul Skanes. They think he's going to go pitcher. What's that? They might go with Cruz, but they think they're going to go pitcher. Number one overall? Take the Skanes. What are we even talking about, pirates? We're back, right?

Aren't we? Baseball was a pitcher's sport. You got a 6'7 guy that throws fucking 100 miles an hour. Yeah. It doesn't matter, though, if he's only there for four years and then he signs somewhere like the Yankees or the Red Sox. What do you think Cruz is going to do? What are you even talking about?

Fair point. Is that a real thing? Well, no. I saw one mock that had skeins. I saw one that had Dylan Cruz. I don't know baseball at all. We're not getting the six foot seven fucking alien that's right baseball we'll talk to jen the next hour i want to do a new segment actually here we go nick please handheld microphone and we're on there we go let's go so i do feel like as we drift into these summer months and further away from football, with football still deep in the horizon,

I think we forget some things about some players that maybe play in the NFL and how great they are. So welcome to a new segment called People Forget. A lot of conversation about Dalvin Cook going to the New York Jets, and I think it's warranted. And let me tell you why I think it's warranted. That backfield, if Dalvin Cook gets into it, and we're assuming this next person that we're about to showcase in, people, forget, is going to be

the top running back duo in the NFL by far. You put Aaron Rodgers as quarterback with weapons outside, they're going to have to stack the box all game long. Oh, Dalvin needs a breather, no big deal. This fucking guy that we are about to show you, rookie out of Iowa State, 5'11", 220 pounds. Pretty basic-sized motherfucker, to be honest with you.

A little bit, yeah. The way he plays is not basic at all. He has all of the tricks that you could potentially need. Here's week two. How's he going to transition to the NFL? Let me tell you. Break through. Bite some tackles. Get to the NFL? Let me tell you. Break through. Bite some tackles. Get to the sideline.

Run. Run. Run. Dude's unbelievable. Now, the New York Jets had a lot of question marks, obviously. A lot of hurt offensive linemen. Quarterbacks like six or seven different ones. And in these highlights just through the first seven games,

you'll see numerous quarterbacks giving him the ball. Here's week four against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the red zone. No big deal. Zach Wilson gives him the rock. He gets the edge. Runs somebody over. Gets to the pylon. How you doing?

Keep it moving. Now let's go to week five. Week five, shall we? Well, the guy can run, right? Can he catch? Can he be a weapon out of the backfield? Zach Wilson throws a completion. Crazy story.

Even crazier story. The rookie running back out of Iowa can seemingly, Iowa State, sorry, in what city? Ames. And look at him. Get over me. Get over me. Now, week five, not only did he have one completion, which we're seeing here in a wheel route down the sideline, he ends up getting second. How about another one, huh?

Just a little outright, how you doing? Hey, a little hezy, stutter, drag him down to the one. The man is a freak show. Let's go to week six now, shall we? Why not? Week six, fake pitch, reverse, inside, cut back. How you doing? Keep it moving. Green Bay Packers, this is Breeze Hall time. Watch this replay, and you can see the entire team chasing this 5-11, 2-20 Iowa State Cyclone in his rookie year. Now week seven comes up. This would actually be the game in which he tears his ACL in the second quarter. What happens in the first quarter, though?

Pitch outside. See ya. Damn. Score. Track. Score. Pew, pew. This dude's phenomenal.

He's ridiculous. And if Dalvin Cook is paired with him in the backfield, I think the whole world needs to be put on notice. Now, ACL injuries are different. How is his recovery going to be? Because his explosiveness, his elusiveness, his stride, his gait, everything about him is dependent upon him being healthy. But if he is, which science?

He's pretty good. Well, I mean, there's a is, which science is pretty good. Well, I mean, there's a lot of, well. Certain parts. There's like real debate right now about science as a whole, but science and recovery on an ACL I think is much better than it's ever been. I expect him to be all the way back, and I can't wait to watch him. And I think the reason why we wanted to do this is because I remember at the beginning of the season, Jets fucking stink at football.

Yeah, that's right. But they would cut into red zone or a highlight would pop on, and it was Brees Hall just fucking running, running, running. We got so used to it that we almost forgot that he was a fucking rookie and basically didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Shout out to Tone Diggs shaving himself

over a mirror. Yeah, smart. That's where that started. So if Brees Hall is back and they get Dalvin Cook as well, fucking good night, Irene. Good luck to the New York Jets fans keeping their composure with everything that is potentially on the horizon for them after sucking for like 50 years.

Yeah. And that was people forget. Yeah. I mean, you mentioned it too. I think it's easy to kind of forget, but having Rodgers, like what he could potentially do this year. I mean, because not only did their offensive line stink last year, but like you said, it's like one week you got Joe Flacco,

one week you got Zach Wilson, one week you got Strzofulski. Mike White. Yeah, Mike White. You get a Hall of Fame quarterback back there with him. Like, if he's healthy, he could rush for 1,500 yards this year. Well, good luck to all of them over there. Exciting times. I think it's – Dalvin Cook getting linked to the Jets is happening a lot more

every single day. Tyler Conklin, former tight end of the Vikings, now on the Jets, was once locker mates with Dalvin Cook and said, like, I've talked to him, reached out to him, and, yeah, there's definitely enough room in our universe for Dalvin Cook to join that backfield. We're just trying to win a championship. It's like they're well on their way. Maybe this man will know more in our universe for Dalvin Cook to join that backfield. We're just trying to win a championship. It's like they're well on their way.

Maybe this man will know more about the situation of Dalvin Cook. Joining us now is the host of the weekly wrap-up, the Rap Sheet and Friends, us being a friend, he being Rap Sheet, ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport. Yeah! Rap Sheet! Rap, looks like you're either going golf or just got done golfing. You look good, pal. How's life?

Appreciate it. I am going golfing. I got Tom Pelissero and mike garofalo headed to my hood okay i'm gonna take him out uh play some golf and uh hope that no news breaks oh the insiders are penetrating a course near you that's awesome i can't wait to hear how it goes are these players are they sticks are you guys walking this thing um they're i'm i'm gonna take a card because i don't know if they're cut out for walking. It's not for everyone.

I think Pelissero hits it pretty good. They both hit it well, but a little erratic. That jacket, Pelissero. Oh, man. So sad. What did you guys think of that? Well, certainly noticed it, right? I mean, he just brought it up.

Yeah, I loved it. If he had a guitar on there, too, today, it would have been like a full, you could have been a real rock star, you know, a real rock star, Tom Pelissero. It was something. I mean, it was a lot. Like, I definitely noticed it as well. Would I add it to my ensemble? I'm not so sure that I would. Yeah, if you got free drinks with it, you would.

But that's neither here nor there. Let's move along. I hope the seven weeks without the kids is going well. Let's talk about what's going on in New York. I just laid out, you know, Brees Hall's highlights from the first seven weeks in which he tore his ACL in the second quarter of that game. Already had a

touchdown, like 71 yards. His stats actually, we had them written out here. 80 carries. I forget what it was. 80 carries, 468 yards, 5.8 carry, four touchdowns. Seven games, yeah, 463 yards, four rushing touchdowns, 19 catches, 218 receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. He's fucking really, really good.

Now, we're just assuming he's going to be the same whenever he comes back from the Stacey Allen injury because it's 2023, even though we've seen others kind of hobbled a little bit. And that's why the Dalvin Cook conversation is so interesting because if they could gel and mend there, that'd be a great tag team, especially down the stretch whenever games matter. You're just kind of got freshness, greatness kind of coming and going

with Aaron Rodgers and hopefully a healthier offensive line. What are you hearing about Dalvin Cook, and do you think the Jets' reality is an actuality? I think it's possible. It's not the kind of thing where I'm like, yeah, I don't think so. I think it's going to be a thing. I'm not saying he's going to sign there,

but if you're asking me, do I think that the Jets will at least be in the mix, I would imagine they would be. The Brees Hall thing is so fascinating to me. The only one I can sort of compare this to, like last year, he was on his way to being Rookie of the Year. Now, they had the Rookie of the Year, but he was on his way to being Rookie of the Year before Garrett Wilson ended up taking it. He was awesome. Like, one of the

best running backs in football, looks like a future megastar. It kind of reminded me of when Deshaun Watson tore his ACL after that epic six or seven-game stretch. You remember that? Like early, early. I think it was his rookie year, actually. Maybe not. Right? And I was like –

It's hard to remember a lot from Houston with Deshaun. That one – All injuries. It's hard not to. It's going to take some time. I know. I know. Because that was real.

It might not take some time either. That was crazy that that came out of nowhere. It was kind of just like one after another after another. But it all kind of came at the same time. Yeah. Wasn't practicing. Yeah. Yeah, because he wouldn't trade.

I want out of here. Trade request first, yeah. Oh, that was a long, not good chapter. But anyway, yes. You don't say. I think that's why he's called injury. It was like, all injuries suck. But I think this is one, for me, that was like extra sad because he was so good.

So, like, I think he's going to be ready around the start of the season. Would I guarantee he's going to play week one? Like, I don't know. That nobody knows. But I think the best thing would be he doesn't have to. And that's why I think the Dalvin Cook signing actually would make a lot of sense. Now, I don't think the Jets are going to be the highest bidder. If they are a bidder, I don't think they'll be the highest. They'll probably be others, but it makes a lot of sense. So like, yeah, I think this could be really interesting. So is it just understood now that the Jets have become a ring chasing paradise almost where

you said they won't be the biggest offer? That kind of happens. Like in Tampa Bay it happened. Kansas City it happened. Anywhere anybody goes to ring chase they understand that there's a price. You're getting taxed for a chance to potentially go and get one for your legacy. Has it just kind of become understood that that has happened

and what a time for Jets fans. They have to be so fucking pumped first of all yes uh and it does a little bit to me feel like the first year in tampa remember there was all this talk about like you know oh is brady gonna get the band back together is he gonna get grog and i was like yeah sure and then it all happened exactly like we all i mean everyone talked about basically Gronk got forced himself to get traded, came out of retirement. Everybody wanted to sign in Tampa for a little less money. I mean, yeah, I could see the Jets being like that because they look like a team whose championship

window, like, I don't know how long it's going to be, but it is open. Like this is a team that looks like to me, they're going to be competing for all of it. So might you, if you're a veteran, take a little less to go play for a ring? Like, yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. AFC is a tough spot right now, but hopefully they'll be able to figure out. They got all the pieces that you could potentially need, including a championship defense, which is the most, I don't want to say the most valuable part,

but towards the end of the year, it feels like there's a lot of good offenses. Now, Patrick Mahomes always a unicorn. Joey Burrow, obviously. But if you're going to get there to the end, your defense has to be worth a fuck. And it feels like the Jets' defense is certainly that incapable. Tone has a question for you, Rap.

Yeah, Ian, what about the other running backs? I mean, we haven't talked about it at all, but Kareem Hunt's still out there. Obviously, we have talked about Zeke being out there. I was surprised because I thought, like, the last few years, Kareem Hunt's still been a good running back. Is there anything about him out there? Yeah, I was a little surprised

about that market too. I think the main problem is once you get past the top tier free agent running backs like the Miles Sanders who got I believe it was six a year. The price comes down a lot. What is he going to get? What is Kareem Hunt going to get? I don't know.

My guess is in the twos or threes. So if you're one of those guys, do you rush to sign now, or do you say, I can get that in training camp, maybe I'll do that, or I'll just wait? I think the existence of, I mean, Kareem Hunt is a good example. Like, he could go to a team, probably rush for 700 yards right now and probably not cost that much money. Those kinds of guys, because they're so good and probably not that expensive,

actually hurt the case of Dalvin Cook because you're like, okay, Dalvin is really, really, really good. He could cost, let's just say, $7 million. Kareem Hunt's also really good, but he's going to cost less. Those guys really hurt the market for the top-shelf running backs like Dalvin Cook. Interesting, interesting. DeHop's still out there, too. A lot of big names. When should we expect any of it? Okay, so I would say camp starts on the 25th or something like that for most teams. 24th,

25th of July. I would think in the week before that, probably after the franchise tag deadline, which is July 17th, I think in that week you'll probably start to see some of these signings trickle in, and then it's like you'll get signings, and then you'll get extensions. Boys, can we move that up a little bit? Yeah, come on.

I think we're going to be off. Are you guys working all through the summer? I'm going away. You guys are going to be working? We're going to be off. Hold on. Are you guys working all through the summer? Like, I'm going away. Like, you guys are going to be working? We're taking a couple weeks. Thank you, Ian, for rubbing in our face that you're going to go, you know, live your life. You know your kids are in Fiji. And we're happy for you.

Hey, way to go, Ian. You burned it, Ian. You burned it, Ian. Way to go, dude. Way to go. We're going to take some time off. The time you were describing when all this stuff is going to happen is seemingly when we're probably not going to be, but all the other time when there's nothing happening, we're on.

We'll be here. Boys, come on. For the good of everybody, let's move that up a little bit. Every year, every year there's like one thing that happens in the summer. So I hope for your sake that you get something. A contract extension. I hope it's not something bad. There's always some discipline

that's announced. There's going to be some litigation that I do not want to talk about. There's going to be somebody that does something. Let's not do that either too, boys. Let's sign deals. Let's not break laws. Let's do that. Let's not break laws. Let's do that. Let's not break laws. Let's sign deals.

I already had it with Jack Jones, so we've got one of those knocked off already. Yeah, but that was a pre-summer. The message hasn't been out there yet. Let's sign deals, not break laws. Okay, good. Pac-Man has a question for you, Rap. Rap, everybody's talking about Jets, but have you heard anything going to the Cowboys? I haven't. I think if the Cowboys are going to pay for a running back, I think it's going to the Cowboys? Oh. I haven't.

I think if the Cowboys are going to pay for a running back, I think it's going to be Tony Pollard. You know, he's signed the franchise. So there's four guys who are. All right. What? What just happened? I was checking the board.

Checking the board. Oh, you got a board? Can we see it? No, you can't see it. It's the handwriting's bad. It's got notes on it. Show us the board. Oh, you don't have a board? Can we see it? No, you can't see it. It's the handwriting's bad. It's got notes on it. Show us the board. Who cares? Who cares?

Yeah, I mean, you know, it's got to be like the, uh, when they show inside the draft room. What do you have, show writing? This is my personal writing style. What do you, you have show writing? I don't have good handwriting. You know I don't believe in writing. Who cares?

Show us the handwriting. Come on. There's people that write with crayons nowadays. You don't even have to because of technology. You got sources of names on that board? Oh, you got fake stories on there. It's a good board. I'm telling you.

It's a complete board. Oh, no. Oh, Drew. Dirty pictures for motivation. You got thongs on there? Yeah, and boobs. No. A lot of me. It's a professional board, huh? Isongs on her? Yeah, and boobs. No. A lot of meat to professional board, huh?

Is it dry erase? Yeah, dry erase. And then what happens is, this is actually one of my favorite things. Let's say something that has been longstanding, like the Lamar Jackson contract, right? I came back from the draft. I'd been gone in wherever I was, Kansas City for a week. Literally the first thing I did, say hello to my family, walk downstairs, go to the board,

erase Lamar Jackson on the board. It's like a checklist type thing. You feel real good about it. Let me hunt Donnie's stories. You're like Dog the Bounty Hunter when he's laying it out with Leland and everybody about the price tags on there. Excited for that. To the Cowboys, I didn't know that.

Is that you hoping, wishing, or what was that? No, it was just a question. I mean, why not? That'd be cool. Hey, be the Cowboys. Do something sweet. Here's another question. What's going on?

Sorry. I'm good. Middle of summer. You got news? Tea time update? Tea time. Tea time update. Of course.

Pellisera says he's not wearing a jacket. No, they're like, it's raining. Like, is it raining here? I'm like, I'm in my basement. We saw Rainy ruining my golfie. Rainy ruining my golfie. Oh, with rain in. That's what you did.

I'm wearing some rain gloves and let's go. Rain gloves? Yeah, but didn't you say? Yeah, rain gloves. That was your IG story, wasn't it? Rain, rain, rain gloves. You know what you said? Yes.

No, but that was lightning. I'll play through rain. When they force us to go off the course with lightning, then I get very grumpy. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I don't like weather.

You don't like weather as a whole? Yeah, it's very annoying. The meteorologist, I have an app that's literally wrong all the time. Well, there's a reason for that. And that's because this man right here passed away. It's Joe Nardo. He founded a Doppler. Thank you, Joe.

Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Rest in peace. They were going to call it the Nardo Doppler. But they just called it the Doppler for short. He didn't want the credit. Yeah, he's a Pittsburgh legend. This guy never was wrong.

This guy was never wrong. 100% hit rate. It was unbelievable. In Pittsburgh, too, that's not easy. More rain days in Seattle. Connor has a question for you about something that's very real, especially in the state of the world with where sports gambling is, script conversation is, and everything with the NFL.

Go ahead, Connor. Why the hell am I reading a list of what jobs NFL referees have? Because they should have one job. It should be refereeing the game, but yet here we are sitting around talking about some ref selling used Honda Civics to some bum who doesn't even need a car, but instead he should be at training camps and maybe getting better at his game. Yeah, this is an interesting question.

Every year this kind of comes up around the time of the league meetings, like one of the refs is going to be full-time. Yeah! And I would say this. There are a lot of reasons to advocate for refs being full-time. I mean, you'd think that

it would be better. That would be one. But also, let's say a ref was a full-time. I mean, you'd think that it would be better. That would be one. But also, let's say a ref was a full-time ref. Then, instead of a retired ref at training camp, you would have real refs. And real refs would go to different training camps, and they would get real live refs. They would get real live game action in scrimmages

or joint practices or whatever. There's a lot of reasons for that. I think the reasons against is some refs like their jobs. Fuck them. You're not supposed to be in the NFL then. See you. Sorry about it. See you.

You'd have a lot of turnover, and it might take a little while to build the – Yeah, but you build it up if they're full-time, right? You've got camps. That's right. You've got a home base probably. You've got seminars. Believe me, i think there there are definitely some reasons why this would really former players hasn't got there as fast as

i thought it would i'll say that if you pay if you pay pretty good as you should third team on the field as territory says it makes territory the head fucking coach yeah i mean it's making their own team but like and then you can pull if somebody fucks up cool you're on the bench we can pull from somebody that has been training. I don't know how they even thought about it. You can market this. I mean, this is a marketable thing. And then you can make that a pipeline.

Former players right in there, internships. If you pay. I could see some former players wanting, I mean, that would be a good, that would be like a great post-career job. Yeah, if you're paying six figures and it's football and guys are in shape and know the game, and there's actually like a pipeline to move up.

Same way the team had it. Boom. Why not? Especially with all the script conversation. In sports gambling, it's like, we should not be hearing about a car salesman NFL ref. No way. I should not know that. So when that fucking guy who works for commission, I just learned, does something,

it's hard not to just be like, that guy take the payday, wouldn't he? It's hard for me to do that. And it's like, I shouldn't do that. But if I'm losing because a call went one way or another, my own personal money, five bucks, 20 bucks, 100 bucks, 1,000, whatever, you're going to automatically,

it wasn't me, it was bullshit. I hope with the involvement of new york like there's obviously a lot more oversight from the new york office than i think there has been um to hope that none of that i mean i i don't get the sense any of that's happening i understand what you're saying but i don't get the sense any of that's happening but you should not be able to think that yeah that's what that that just feeds the you know it just feeds a narrative that none of us want you talk about like, like, players gambling on the NFL, fucking the Shield.

Bad. Very bad. Can't have it. Right. Equally important, refs aren't fucking the Shield. Yeah. Like, you can't feed that. You know what I mean?

Like, that's the integrity of the game. That's all we got. And this is, there's going to be trillions of dollars involved in sports gambling. Exactly. So, like, everybody knows where it's going. Let's just make it as good as possible. Hey, this number's going to be, even if dollars involved in sports gambling. So, like, everybody knows where it's going. Let's just make it as good as possible. Hey, this number is going to be – even if you've got to pay a little bit here.

Simple fix. For these refs, you're investing. That's all because this money that's going to be here is going to be big. There are good enough business people over there to understand that. I don't know why they're dragging their feet on this whole thing. Let's move on. We could yell about this in the middle of June for literally four hours if we wanted to. Ty has a question for you, Rob.

Yeah, Rob Shee, there was a report that came out that the Browns and a handful of other teams are also interested in D-Hop. Have you heard that? Are there multiple teams that are going to kind of come to the forefront here, or is it still kind of just, hey, he's deciding between the Patriots and the Titans offers? Yeah, I mean, I saw the Browns thing, and I think it was like they were lurking or something. I thought it was

very cool that Deshaun Watson kind of came out and was like, yeah, I'd love to play with them. I never really got the sense the Browns were in it. To me, barring some sort of injury or some team realizing they have money they didn't previously have, my guess is those two teams

that he visited are probably the two that he's considering. Titans and Patriots, I think both those teams would certainly make some sense. Probably been a little more smoke toward the Patriots. What was the smoke? The plane that Bill Belichick booked for him to go up there? One-on-one?

They're doing... That was a pretty big deal. They're doing chemtrails to get him up there? What are you talking about? I just say Oh, they're doing, what's that? That was a pretty big deal. They're doing chemtrails to get them up there? That's a smoke? What are you talking about? I mean, I just say the feel, I think the Patriots are very much in it. You know, we'll see what they end up doing. If something happens, guess we get closer to camp.

But, like, the interest does seem to be from both sides there. Now, there's, you know, I would be surprised to be signed from now right until the start of training camp. So any team could jump in and be like, all right, these receivers that we thought were going to contribute are not contributing, so we now need this guy. That's kind of his ace in the hole. But otherwise, I think it would be the decision probably those two teams before camp.

Remember, we only got 20 days until the franchise tags have to be signed. That's it. That's it. Not a long time. Only 20 days until the franchise tags have to be signed. That's it. That's it. Not a long time. Only 20 days. Let's make sure we follow it every single day. Good luck out on the golf course with the insiders. Make sure that rainy doesn't affect your golfie.

Rain gloves. I got rain gloves for me, and I got one extra set in case one of those guys needs them. Everybody has same size hands over there, huh? I mean, I assume, you know, insider hand size should be all around the same, I feel like. Well, just in my head, I was thinking of as soon as you said you have an extra pair, you and I being on a golf course, it's starting to rain and you going, I got an extra pair of gloves. And me going, one of the most disrespectful things you've ever said to me. You know what I mean? Yeah.

That's kind of offensive that you're saying this now. You're assuming that my hands will be smaller than yours? Vastly, yeah. Are smaller hands better for tweeting? I don't know. You probably can't get the full XL phone because the thumb has to... You've got the medium, mid-sized one?

Mid-sized, yeah. I don't have the one that looks like an iPad. I don't want to carry it around like this. I also used to be in a profession where there's gloves. Right. You know, so you can... No, they do have goggles. like an iPad. I don't want to carry it around like this. I also used to be in a profession where there's gloves. They do have golf gloves. You got my size. They are bad.

You got my size. This guy's hands are gigantic. His middle finger actually reaches up to Scott. His reach is that of an 8-foot tall man. Anyways, Rap, good luck out on the golf course. Appreciate it.

We learned a lot about Garofalo's and Pellicero's size. Yep. There and that, just kind of situation. And how are the boys? You haven't heard from them, huh? We got a couple pictures. They uploaded a couple pictures on the app, and they're smiling in the pictures, doing various activities.

So very, very good times so far. Fucking smile. It's not like that, right? What's that? Fucking smile. No, no, no, no. Every smile is very genuine. Yeah, you guys zoom in on your eyes.

You know what I mean? There's a lot behind the eyes. Enjoy the golf. You're the man. There's a lot behind the eyes. Yeah, got you. Enjoy the golf. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. So Breesaw might not be ready by week one is what I just heard. Yeah. He said that a couple different times.

That's why the Dalvin Cook thing makes sense. I do wonder what week he'll be back because as we were going through his highlights, he was fun to watch. The NFL missed him last year. Yeah, and he was like, it's kind of like that rookie thing where they kind of, I don't want to say they held him back earlier, but they gave him so many, what was it, week four, five, and six, he had like 17, 18 carries each game.

I could be... Yeah, 17, 18, 20. Yeah. Like, he wasn't getting as many carries, and then he fucking just started popping off, and obviously the long touchdown in the last game, he was getting rolling. Yeah. That stinks. Hell of a player. And they're going to need him. The start

of every AFC East team to the season is murderer's row. They need to get off to a good start. I think Lombardi has said before the Super Bowl teams typically start hot, end hot, and they might go through a little right in the middle, but their, I think, first five or six weeks is pretty tough. Yeah, what do you say? People always say, like, the beginning of the season doesn't matter.

It dies. It dies. If you look back at the teams that end up winning it, normally pretty good football team at the beginning. Now they're going to get better, but everybody says you start terrible and go win it. More of a pipe dream than anything else. And Amaral's going to play his best football when he's got a running game.

Like, when he has a running game and he can play action. He doesn't care either. He will hand that fucker off. Yes, he will. Like, everybody talks about Jimmy G and how he only had six passing attempts. If the Green Bay Packers were to ever play in a game in the past and they were to have 180 yards of rushing before contact, Aaron Rodgers would have handed that ball off every single fucking time.

Oh, yeah. Now, every time would have been like perfectly executed. There would have been some sort of shit. Carrying out the boot afterwards. Yeah, there would have been some sort of... I'm doing something today. You know what? Like a pitch would have been...

It'd be like a filthy... But he is not scared to have 15 pass attempts in a fucking game. If it's working, we are good. I think that is something that doesn't get talked about with the mushroom, ayahuasca, psilocybin conversation. It's like, this dude is not like, I need to throw the ball 50 times a fucking game type player at all.

So with two good running backs in the back, he's going to be, I think, oh man, they could do it. Oh yeah. They've seen very tough. Absolutely. Well, he even said last year, like multiple times on the show, when they were going through their rut, he was like, hey, we need to get Aaron Jones and A.J. Doan involved more.

We need to run the ball more. The receivers are young guys. They're not quite where they need to be yet. We can't win games with me throwing 35 to 40 times. We have a very good stable of backs that we need to get involved into the offense more. Then once they started to do that, that's

when they started to turn things around because then he could. He could throw it 20 times, and they'd have two play-action bombs where he'd throw a long touchdown, or they'd get a big chunk play. For whatever reason, people think that he wants to be out there throwing 45 to 50 times a game, and that's just never been who he is throughout his entire career. At all. It's almost a knock on him because the passing yards yeah that he'll have versus like other people's passing yards it's like never he's

never thrown way over 5 000 yards ever yeah how'd this guy win the mvp over this guy look at the attempts look at the turnovers yeah look at the 48 touchdowns and five interceptions yeah it's like this dude he will i don't think he's scared to, to your point about play action. Like he'll methodically just beat the fuck out of you. And he'll feel good that he's outsmarting you. Like he is completely okay outsmarting you in his sense. That's how he probably sells it to himself. We're winning.

We're beating them. We're outsmarting them. That's a dub. As opposed to some people who just, you know, I know what Kellen wants to do. Kellen wants to light up the scoreboard. That's what Mike McCarthy said about the offense coordinator, Kellen Moore, who's now with the Chargers. He's looking for a head coaching job.

So he wants his quarterback to have stupid yards, stupid everything. Offense coordinators aren't the only people that think like that. Quarterbacks think like that as well because they know I'll get paid if I have a shit ton of stats. So it's a fine balance. It's an interesting balance. And I think if they got two dogs in the back, I mean, he would not be scared to just give them the fucking ball

if it's working. If it's not working now, different story. But it's going to work because they're going to have to, like, he want the box to be filled. He want eight to nine people, I mean, eight people in the box. If you give Aaron Rodgers eight people in the box, he is not going gonna miss a motherfucker and it's gonna be right on him so it's gonna be either he catch it or the receiver just ain't catching

the ball but the the goal is to get him to put eight in the box and every time he's had a good running game where you have to pack the box he exploits it yeah or the opposite too like do you remember the lions packers game where you went on i think it was two years ago you were actually on the manning cast and there was kind of like a boring game where you went on, I think it was two years ago, you were actually on the Manning cast, and it was kind of like a boring game, people were saying on the internet, just because the Lions wouldn't do that. They wouldn't pack the ball. Waiting, waiting, waiting, and then one time.

One single time they didn't double Devontae Adams all the way down the field, blew the game open. It was awesome because the Manning cast, Peyton and Eli were both like, oh, he's just waiting. He's just taking what they're giving. They were like explaining to us what was going through. I would have never knew that either. That's why that Manning cast really is awesome.

I love watching those guys. As soon as they saw it before the snap, they're like, oh, got Devontae. And then next thing, right on top. It was awesome. As a defensive player, you know it because you look back at the coach like, why in the hell are we not doubling this guy? Yeah, they did for, it seemed like 99% of the play. It was.

It was all in the first half the whole time, and then at the end of the second quarter, one time, single coverage. Yeah, that, I forgot all about that. Oh, yeah. It was awesome. That Manning thing was fantastic for that, though, because I think Eli started to break down, then Peyton broke it down, and then I think we got a heads up like, hey's about to happen yeah he did yeah right now it's about that and then literally right in front of us it was like shot how you doing keep

it moving i enjoyed i enjoyed that type of shit i think we're at that stage of the nfl where people want to learn more about it you know obviously we're introducing to a new crowd. And Germany ticket sales this morning, there's 1.5 million people in the queue trying to buy the tickets to the Chiefs and the Dolphins game over in Frankfurt, I do believe. 1.3 million was this photo. I had tweets and people telling me, now their English was spotty,

but they were telling me 1.5 million people in the queue this comes after last year was like 660 some thousand yeah we're in the queue and obviously we know that these european games are not just people from the country in which the game is you know when the game was in london there was people traveling from germany from france from belgium all the way and it was like a celebration of american sports. Always sold out. Always was fantastic. London, I think there's some real and incredible NFL fans there. But I think it did take a village, basically,

to go ahead and make it as big as it was and what it felt like from the entire Europe. A lot of military based over there. A lot of that type of shit. Germany, they fucking love the NFL. I think not that London doesn't. I know there's a lot of people that do so please do not take it that way but this germany shit these numbers that we've seen unless

they're all fake and i don't know how you would fake that many people in the queue but this is like taylor swift shit yeah it's crazy this is this is rock star stuff coming into germany and obviously we know there's a lot of military bases and everything like that. But if you think about Bjorn Werner in that football bromance show, they're selling out fucking arenas. Speaking German, talking about football. What incredible growth of the game, of the sport.

And shout out to Germany. I mean, Guten Tag. That is an incredible community to have alongside the rest of the world. Yeah, they sold out in 15 minutes and I think you hit the nail on the head. I think with London and England, it is more of like the just American sports in general, and I can join that because they just had a baseball series over there this past weekend, and it was the biggest, the most attention.

A taste of home for people. Exactly. A taste of America. Yeah, exactly. People who are just kind of looking for something to do, but it does really feel like in Germany, they legit love the NFL. And I think the football bromance, I would assume that has something to do with it. You actually have someone who played in the NFL.

But you can't get that many people invested in a game if it's just like, oh, we'll go check this out. You have to be a diehard fan to sit in queue for hours to get a ticket. I assume Bjorn and them, and I'm trying to think the other guys' names. Sebastian Vollmer? Does he do it with Vollmer? I don't know if he's on. Yeah, maybe he's on. I don't know. They have a crew there. I apologize for not getting everybody's

names. It's really well done. I would assume they certainly help, but they're at the stage of having an NFL podcast sell out arenas. That's a big stage of fan development. Having a podcast, everybody has a podcast. To get to a point where it's big enough, the topic that they're talking about

has to be gigantic. Shout out to Germany. That is great. Roger Goodell saw that this morning. More people tweet about it. More, more, more. Nine! Nine, nine, nine! Don't stop it. How much do you think NFL Europe has to do with that?

I don't know. You're right. Because they had the Rhine fire, the Berlin something. And it did well, right? Yeah, I think they had multiple teams in Germany, right? Yeah, that's what I was just trying to run. Did Frankfurt have a team as well? Maybe. Fucking A, dude. That's huge. I assume one of these four teams, too, that's playing,

Colts, Patriots, Dolphins, and Chiefs, are going to do what the Jags might do or where the Jags are over in London for two weeks. I don't see why they wouldn't have one of those four teams, depending on if the Chiefs travel, the Dolphins, the Patriots, the Colts, whoever travels the best. Why wouldn't they just have another game next year and just have a team go for two weeks? There has to be good business to be done.

They've got $1.5 million. Even in the offseason, put on some camps. Yeah. I mean, there has to be some real stuff you can do over there. We should do some sort of something over there. Obviously, we've thought about that the last couple years. But making something happen like that in the middle of the season is absolutely bananas to actually accomplish, you know, without a hitch.

But we got to get over there. Yeah, the timing in the season, too. Yeah, they got a lot of soccer players, though. Like an easy-kicking punting camp over there, isn't it? You would think. Isn't it? Definitely soccer. I mean, that's an easy thing we could do over there.

And then I got to play Dornan ping-pong. Exactly. And at a theater. Could always do it. They all are good at ping-pong over there, though. We need to know that. Is it like a national sport? I don't know. I think it good at ping pong over there, though. We need to know that. Is it like a national sport? I don't know.

I think it's like a classic, like, dad, parent, kid. Everyone has a table. I think so. Yeah. I think it's one of the – I think so. Everybody in Germany that I've encountered, and I'm assuming there's some Germans out there like not me, whatever you – every German-associated human that I've run into

can play ping pong. He's a solid ping pong player. Were you a ping pong guy in the locker room? Yeah, I'm all right, but I wasn't the best. How do you hold the paddle? I can hold it both ways. What do you mean? Down, up.

I can play. I'm decent. Real decent. Same way he holds the thunderball paddle. Oh, yeah. But you put thumb on back? Yeah. Yeah.

You put thumb on back. Yeah. Okay, got it. All right, I'm excited. Ping pong is a great locker room sport. Great game. Ping pong is always the best, though, because y'all are sitting in there playing hours and hours. And also, we're freak athletes.

Of course. All that type of stuff. One motion. Anti-coordination. Yeah, I'm a pretty good little ping pong player. I mean, Bjorn Werner, though, he fucking cooked me first time I played. I was a little arrogant. I was a little bit too confident.

Welcome to my table. Welcome to America. You know what I mean? Yeah. We drafted you to the first round. Cool. Welcome to the team. Good luck.

He cooked my fucking ass. I mean, it was really impressive. Was that the first time playing a German-born player? No, because, like, yeah, I think so. I think it was my first time. And then you learn, like, Andrew Luck had, like, one of the nicest ping pong tables in the world in his house. He grew up in Germany.

You know what I mean? You hear about other kids. I think they play ping pong over there. Okay. Bjorn knows what happened afterwards, though. What was that? I got that fucking Forrest Gump machine. I actually bought the machine.

I still have it. Andy had one of them things. Who? Spit the ball out. Yeah. Training. Yes. It has topspin, backspin. Yeah, I stayed up till like 5 a.m. one fucking night just out together. Top five in all of...

Yeah, they're the first non-Asian country whenever it comes to ping pong. China, South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Germany. Yeah, so I assume every fucking kid has one. Yeah. They're very good. Need to ping pong. China, South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Germany. Yeah, so I assume every fucking kid has one. They're very good. Need to know that. Don't be fucking around if a German walks into a ping pong place and just think you're going to be able

to... It's a hustle. He or she is coming to cook you. Speaking of, just got back in the Oculus because I saw Nick Saban in there. Nick Saban is on a run of awesome right now yeah we all know what happened at the national championship when nick saban was on college game day and he was

giving incredible takes and thoughts it was an honor to sit next to him to be honest he's a west virginia fuck people gotta remember from west virginia is been there done that with everything greatest college football coach of all time and the way he handled himself on game... They didn't even have a place for him to stand off the game day set with where our set was. As Georgia fans and TCU fans are coming into the stadium, Nick Saban's standing there. There's

people saying some shit to Nick Saban. I can imagine. And he's just sitting there, how you doing? Inside, I bet, alright. Then he comes up on the stage classy intelligent insightful fucking loved everything about it then georgia goes on to win then pollock obviously afterwards georgia bulldog one of the greatest georgia bulldogs of all time absolute dog who got injured early in his nfl career so nobody got to really see him as a cincinnati bangle but as a georgia

bulldog beloved absolute animal he says yes kirby Smart's era right in front of Saban. And David Pollak is just talking facts. He's just talking about matter of fact. Nick Saban is right there, though. People zoomed in on Saban. His face was just... You know, he was upset about it. And all hell was about to break loose down there.

This offseason, all I've seen is fucking awesome Nick Saban. He's in the virtual reality Oculus fucking boxing people. This is from his daughter. Not a bad loose down there. This offseason, all I've seen is fucking awesome Nick Saban. Yeah. He's in the virtual reality Oculus fucking boxing people. This is from his daughter. Not a bad little combo there. Now, that kind of got on top of him. Kind of startled him a little bit, but he's like, yeah. All right. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Get that, bitch. Get that. All right. All right. Boom. I assume he knocked this guy out. He's Nick Saban. Oh, yeah.

So then we see another video coming out of the house. This guy's doing the electric slide in his fucking living room, dude. Got the plate. Living. It's electric. Damn good at it, too. He is. Yeah, yeah.

Smooth. That motherfucker's done an electric slide before. Yeah. Now, for those of us that know the electric slide but don't know how to do a lot of the square dancing and stuff like that, as a guy who's been in a saloon when Copperhead Road came on, it is the electric slide with an extra. And then you just go ahead and go right into the electric slide. That's just one of the dances.

There was five of them. But I'll tell you what. I was at altitude and a little boozed up. As I was starting to catch the rhythm of the, oh, my God, that's an electric slide. They're doing an electric slide right now with an extra kick. Foxy, let's go. And we go out there. We catch on.

That's exactly what you said. Music changes. Next song, though, I don't have a playbook. Yeah. I did not. They were not doing the electric slide. I mean, I was getting, yeah, I got bounced out of there. But Saban crushes it.

And now we've got a five-star wide receiver recruit who is uh committed to Alabama asked a question about whether or not you know the longevity of Saban staying in Alabama was ever a thought or a question mark and this was the answer old cuz he gave who I could not find his name in any of the searches I think he is the number one receiver in uh his class I would like to let him know, caption, searches, everything. Could not find his fucking name. Great hair, seems to be a dog. Gave this answer when he was talking about Nick Saban and coaching longevity.

I know a lot of schools try to recruit against Alabama by saying Nick Saban's getting older, he's going to retire. You're a 25 guy and that's a couple years off. What does he say to you about that? He said, well, we've talked about that, of course, but he said he's going to be coaching until he cronks over. And he's got some time. Okay, I think we got some time.

You look like he's going to die? No, he's electric sliding and boxing people. You think he's anywhere close to dying? Absolutely not. He'll be around. I could see how other coaches would try to use that against him. Ryan Williams out of Sarah Land, Alabama. He's definitely going to Alabama, Ryan Williams. not he'll be around i could see how other coaches would try to use that against him ryan williams out of saraland alabama he's definitely going alabama yep ryan williams so i like and appreciate

that question but other coaches are certainly saying that you don't want to go there the guy's going to retire he's going to be on tv you see how good he was on game day he's going to be on tv he's already been the greatest already are we're trying to build to that you want to come with us but i don't think saban's going to ever give it up. He's unbelievable. Their team's great. He probably wants to win another five national championships before he's done. I fucking love this dude. Massive fan of old Saban. Yeah, Saban is not going nowhere. You can tell he enjoyed coaching

the game. Some coaches, you know, when they get to a pivotal point where they done made all, whatever the accolades are, won all the championships. This guy loved developing and loved winning. So I don't see him going. You're probably going to have to pull him out of there. He's not one of those guys.

I don't think this is going to be like, all right, I'm done with this. I hope someone does when it's time because, you know, there's college coaches who someone didn't pull them off the field and they end up pooping their pants. Wearing khakis. Nebraska. Joe Bamba's all time. Well, there's a couple things that really is.

Joe Paterno pooped in his pants on the field. Which happens a lot. And they were khakis. Nebraska. Joe Bamba's all-time. Well, there's a couple things that ruined his time. Joe Paterno pooped in his pants on the field. Which happens a lot. And they were khakis. And we seen it. Yeah. And he had those cleats on. Yep. They always had.

And I think it made it even worse as he was running because it was just. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Stripping down his socks. We don't know what he ate, but some people smelled it. Yeah. And they said it was terrible, but you're right, Tone. There are people that just need to know when the time is the time.

It's got to be dangerous running into the bathroom, too, with those cleats on, too, if that floor is wet. How come they always say that this shit is non-slip? Did you ever hear this? The Indianapolis Colts added this in when they redid the entire locker room. They had the shower area, the bathroom, and it was like a hard floor. Nice. And everybody was like, hey, we shower.

This gets wet. We're all going to slip. This is non-slip, hard floor. Okay. I was like, they make that? Yep, that's what this is. It was not. It is not.

Anything that's hard, that gets wet. There's a chance you're going to slip. Is going to be slick. I've never felt more lied to in my life than when that person said that. This is non-slip? Yeah, so when this gets wet, nobody's going to slip? No. No, no, no.

No chance. Like it was like two days later, guy comes out of the fucking shower. Breaks his back. Big. Hey, he takes a big bump. You know what I mean? Bang, down there. Probably got up.

I mean, there's absolute beasts in the NFL. You're talking about freak shows. But immediately afterwards, there was 50 fucking rubber things down. Of course. An absolute lie. It's like, yeah, that makes sense. But to your point, I don't know if they had carpeting to his shitter, you know, because they knew he never takes those cleats off.

I'd imagine. Maybe turf. They might have had fucking actual grass. Like, you know when Ray Lewis would come out and he'd have actual grass? They would take actual Happy Valley grass and line the floor with it so that Joe Pau could feel the grass of the stadium while he's shitting in his brand-new cleats. Was there even a toilet in there at that point?

I was going to say, did it matter? Because I'm pretty sure he was just going in and changing his pants. So that is something. They have those diaper rooms. Yeah, exactly. Do you think somebody... Yeah, put him up on the table, change the diaper for him, put some triple paste on him. Rest in peace, Joe.

You knew about some stuff, certainly. There are some things happening. But as a football coach, I think a lot of people thanked him for the development in which they – AQ. AQ thanked him a lot for that. But he did poop his pants. And that's not the only position. I mean, there's a lot of professions where people stick around too long, and they almost ruin the entire gimmick.

It's tough. You know what I mean? They almost ruin everything that anybody's thought about them. But it's hard not to turn But it's hard not to turn. It's hard not to take a paycheck, you know, and also be treated like a god. Doing something you love. If you're still working at that age, everybody grew up a fan of you. So you can basically do, say, and accomplish whatever the hell you want.

I'm not saying Saban's at that age. And how old is he? Is he like 70? I think so, yeah. He looks good age. And how old is he? Is he like 70? I think so. 72? He looks good, dude. How old's Belichick? He is 72, or he's turning 72 before the season. 71. But I think college in the NFL is different because I would imagine that

when you constantly have like 18 to 21-year-olds coming in, that makes you kind of stay young and feel young a little bit, whereas if you're coaching in the NFL, you see guys, if they play for a long time, it's like, shit, we just drafted this guy and he's 31 already. That would make you feel a lot older. But when you constantly have these young recruits coming in,

I would imagine that makes you kind of feel a little bit younger. How much younger? What the hell is he doing? Driving around in a car? Hey, let's go. To recruit? Yeah, that's it. So that's what I was about to say.

Like, in his off season, he probably just comes in the office, calls or Zooms a couple recruits, walks around the building, goes down to the weight room, all right, and then he's probably, he's electric sliding onto his boat and onto a golf course. Hey, just like Ian Rappaport taking a two-week break right now. Like, hey, Saban, you earned it, pal. Do whatever the hell you want to do. Still, that's the guy's number three wide receiver in America there.

And he's like, Saban told me he's coaching until he dies. I listen to him. I'm here. Yeah, I'm going. There's a lot of people on the internet saying, I'm sure he said that to him. Never heard a coach lie before. What are you saying? Saban lying to these kids? I don't think so. What if Saban

does say to one class, though, you're going to be my last class, so you guys are just not recruiting over the next three years? Well, I'm going to tell them I'm gone before you're seen. I'm going to tell the truth. That's the only honorable way to go out, I guess, in college coaching? Yeah, just being honest with the last class and letting them know before.

Because that's always the thing that coaches get killed for. You said you were going to, and you left before they even. It's like, well, sorry. Brian Kelly, I know their name. Brian Kelly, Rich Rod, I mean, I have us. There's a lot of that, but it's like as you get older, you start thinking yourself, start thinking to yourself, like, Rich Rob probably made some

very valid points whenever he was talking about how good we were and how shitty our shit was. You know what I mean? And everything like that. And the administration wouldn't help? Got it. Okay, I get it. At the time, though, you know, I had a lot of bullets facing me, too. It would have been nice if you'd come back. We won a national championship. I don't have to, you know, just be buried

for the rest of my life. But I understand you got to do what you got to do. Now, it's not going to work out there or the next place or anywhere else, but he couldn't have known that. But it is, how does Nick Saban exit gracefully? I don't know. I don't know how that happens. You can't.

I don't think there's any. Unless you get fired, which means you suck. Right. There's no easy exit out of a college coaching position. They're never going to suck. I guess unless your wife's the head coach and you're boner. Oh, there you go. Let's no easy exit out of a college coaching position. They're never going to suck. I guess unless your wife's the head coach and you're Boner. Oh, there you go. Let's get to a break.

Hour two will be on the other side. You know what we're talking about. Yeah. Zayn at Boston. Bingo. Yep. Could he bring in like a successor and have it be like someone that is also respected? And then he would have to say, this will be the guy that will coach you junior, senior year because I'm fucking out of here.

I got a boat on a lake. Right there. That is waiting. Bowden was 80 and Paterno was 84 when they... And he just signed an eight-year extension? Yeah. He'll do it for however long he wants. Yeah, shit. We love that 79.

Hey, he was awesome, bro. On game day. He was really awesome. Genuinely cared. Yeah. Was in tune with everybody. Like, I think at the hotel lobby, he was. He was so cool.

He was just like, where'd you guys get that coffee? Just talking to everybody, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Where'd you get that? Forgot all about that. Yeah. He's a human.

Approached us, too. Didn't, like, you know. Still a human. I think Zeke was like, hey, coach. And then he just walked over. Have to be if you're dealing with 17, 18, 19-year-olds, 20, 21-year-olds. You got to be approachable and you got to be human. Yeah.

Yeah, because even the clips of him on the boat with his team, it's like, oh, this guy is still in it. He told me I was very coachable too. Hell yeah. Sounds like you just made that up because I have not heard that ever before. But we'll roll with it. Sure. We'll roll with it.

Say it, man. Z, you are coachable, pal. Thank you. Coach Saban said it. Hell yeah. The. All right, let's get to a break. AJ Hawk will be on the other side.

Jet Passon will join us. More baseball. Okay. We like that. Love baseball. I got a gif. We all got gifs. Not all of us.

Yikes. Sorry about it, Nick. Sorry about it, Bruce. Sorry about it, Dirty. What? Sorry about it, Erbo. Whatikes Sorry about a Nick Sorry about a Bruce Sorry about a Dirty Sorry about a Erbo Sorry about a Bill Sorry about a Mitt Sorry

Everybody else got fucking sweet gifts What'd you guys get? Don't worry about it We'll talk about it when Jet Passing comes on Make sure you keep your microphone off Because you didn't get fucking shit Don't feel bad, me either Racist gift Wow Don't feel bad. Me either. Oh!

Racist gift. Oh, my God. Wow. Well, Zito is... He's Cuban. He's Cuban. Yeah. He's not white. So I guess there is maybe a picking and choosing there.

A little bit. I don't think that's... What's that all about? What is that all about? What is that all about? That is weird. I'm not happy. No jam?

I'm not happy. I'm not... Bingo. Yeah, a lot of crab. I'm not happy that No, Jim. I'm not happy. I'm not binging. Yeah, a lot of crop. I'm not happy that you're not getting a bat. Nick not getting it, though. You got bats?

Ah, who cares? Ah, it's not a bat. Maybe it's a bat. Custom. They're pretty sweet. Custom piece of lumber. They are. It's a nice piece of lumber.

It is. Bro, I got my name on it. Oh, yeah. That's sweet. What? They spell it right? Yeah, they spell it right. Yeah, they spell mine wrong. They had ER. But also right. Also right. Yeah, they spell it right. Yeah, they spell mine wrong. They had ER.

But also right. Also right. Yeah, ER on the full name, OR on a different one. So they were going to go one for two because they know in baseball, if you're hitting 500, you're going to Hall of Fame. And they just wanted to spread it wide net. Bingo. We'll get one of these right at least.

They want to be 0 for two. Gosh, what an ass. You didn't send the whole crew back. Who? Send these back. Who? Jeff. Jeff didn't send us back. Yeah, he sent us. Who? Jeff. Jeff would never.

Jeff Passon did not. Jeff does not have pull with this. The king of the bats sent us the bats. I know what that is. Lord of the bats. We need to get you a bat. We need to get Bill a bat, Dirty a bat, Bruce a bat,

Mitt a bat. I saw Bill. He has a bat. He's got a bunch of nails sticking out of it. Nick a bat. That's because he wrestled Mick Foley last year. Don't want a bat. Joining us now is the college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winning, COVID beating, champion of Ohio, president of Ohio,

the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. A.J. Hall. A.J., let's dive right into it. I see Nick Chubb do something in a weight room that you could never, ever, ever accomplish. Nope. And I know you like to get after it in the mornings. Uh-huh.

And you wake up early and you put on your little headphones and listen to all your toxic podcasts about everything going on and while doing that you beat the shit out of your body did you see what nick chubb was doing in the weight room 610 pounds on a absolutely metal bar yeah that is not supposed to bend this way espn nfl commented you know it's heavy when you make the bar bend like that i think there were some people confused about the potential bar that he was using nonetheless 610 pounds on a stability squat bar up and down what a dog i know this gets your juices flowing aj yeah what is it load coupled with cns activation is that part of that bar that makes you like activate all your little whatever?

Yeah, I believe it's just like whenever people Derek Henry was doing something With his bands I think the instability of it Is supposed to activate little muscles That wouldn't normally in a static lift Be operated I've only seen it a few times

Be used in public Obviously I've seen it on the internet. A lot of people have never seen it before, though. And there was a lot of reaction this morning. How's he doing that? Look at the way the bar's standing. Holy shit. You know what I mean?

It's very impressive, man. Hey, that's why that dude runs through 15 tackles a game, pretty much, I would guess. He's got those big quads. Former track guy, right? Oh, yeah. Remember they have that track photo of him running in high school. He looks like a 45-year-old. Yeah.

Dickhills. Dude, is he? Absolute dog. Did like to see the bar kind of make its way into the convo. Speaking of the bar, the bar has been raced. These refs still aren't fucking full-time in the NFL, AJ. We talked to Rap about it, and Rap was like, I would have thought it would have been done by now, too. And he was about to go

golf and then go on a two-week vacation, I think, three-week vacation, whatever it is. He might try to catch up with Max and Jude whenever they get back, his kids. He might be on vacation until then, honestly. Not a bad play. Just chip your kids into the woods, get some photos online, and then go take a couple trips. He might have more figured out than all of us, but

nonetheless, I think he's going to miss some things. This NFL ref thing, I don't get it, AJ. Why won't they just fucking do it, AJ? I would have... I'm guessing they're saying it's a money thing, right? Like, we don't have the money set aside to pay these guys as full-time officials? Hell not!

That's bullshit. We know it's garbage, but everything is garbage now. So, really, what is the reason? What's keeping them away? The NFL, it's all they care about is, like, the integrity. We've got to hold up the tradition we have, and obviously we have to have good officials for that to happen. Right. I was trying to think of some things that aren't garbage.

Five-hour energy is never garbage. No. Nick Chubb, I mean, bending bars with all that weight. That's not garbage. That's not garbage. No. No. That's smoke and meat out there.

That's not garbage. No way. We've got a UFO congressman coming in. Is there a crap sheet there? Yes. What. We got a UFO congressman coming in. Crap sheet there. What? There's meat smoking going on? Yeah, somebody's out there smoking a lot of meat.

Yeah, people smoke meat in every state. Actually, remove some ribs to smoke some meat out here. Yep. Simple. Yeah. Moving ribs to smoke meat. Does it taste better that way? It's just simpler that way.

That's Will and Manson. Gets the fat out. Yeah, you get a nice mustard binder on there. Mustard would be incorporate that. I think we got some of the Brock Lesnar blend, too. Oh, my God. Brock's blend always makes me

smoke easier. Hell yeah, Ohio. There it is. Anyways, it's not garbage. The NFL needs to do this. What's the reasoning? If you ask Rog, hey Rog, for real, we know it's not a money thing. What is the deal? Why are they not full-time?

So I do worry, and everybody's calling us a sellout, saying what we can talk about, what we can't talk about on ESPN. Okay, thank you for continuing to say that, even though seemingly the show has gotten worse since the announcement. For sure. Especially that fucking guy. Definitely that fucking guy. It's like these guys, this guy

when he went back, his friends in Ohio, oh, sell off! Sell off! You think you're going to be able to make Epstein Island jokes whenever you... So he's turned it up. Oh, yeah. And this guy went back to Boston for one fucking weekend. They were like, sell off! Sell off! What are you going to do? He's turned it up a thousand. I do.

He's turned it up an absolute thousand. So I just don't know how you get this particular group of humans to speak about things differently. Now, we will have to drop fuck, which is seemingly becoming more and more difficult every single day. We'll get around to it. I don't think so. I'm really worried about that one. That one might be a little bit of a... We'll work on it later.

We'll figure it out. We're professionals. August. We are professionals. You don't say it on game day. Boom. You're right. Or WWE when I was on there.

Or the watch along. I don't say it when I'm sleeping. But I can... That's right, Tone. There it is. Actually, we don't know that. Yeah. We. You're right. Or WWE when I was on there. Or the watch-along. I don't say it when I'm sleeping. But I can. That's right, Tone. There it is. Actually, we don't know that. Yeah. We don't know that.

What if you're a sleep talker? I would be told. Yeah, what if she's sleeping? Yeah. No, anything I do wakes her up. Tony slept on a stream here before. I do wakes her up. Sorry.

We've all been there, bro. We've all been there, bro. We've all been there. But this is why I think Roger Goodell might never come on the program. And why, like, on ESPN, I do get worried. Was it ever an option that Roger Goodell was coming on the program? Maybe. He did the New Heights show. We might have Barack Obama before Roger Goodell.

Don't sleep on Barry. I don't know if. Okay, so we allegedly have been in contact with his office. Obama? Barack? Okay. No former presidents. Okay.

Oh. Damn. Okay, AJ. Okay, we'll reach out to president obama yeah okay for zeke for zeke i need zito i think he would be as you know great could do the sirianni with zito and barack oh yeah it would tie in all right put a split screen don't sleep on barrio hey hey president obama we need you to say don't sleep on barrio over and over and over again we need to do that we got an impressionist here who absolutely kills it.

But people are also thinking we won't be able to say things. Me talking about the refs is going to be something I'm always going to talk about. Yes. And the reason is because I'm very passionate about it because I've seen a lot of really good teams get fucked over by tiny little chipping away at a couple. One bad official in a game calling two, three things

can change an entire season yes can change the entire course of people's lives so like me as somebody that rode the coattails of a lot of people to a lot of games i also got a chance to see the reactions after games whenever somebody who definitely could have been better at their job made a decision that fucked everybody it's like that is something that should be taken more serious i think by fans i think by media and definitely by the nfl they need they know they have to they hear from coaches every single week like hey this guy's gonna get fired and never have a job because of this blown block in the back of the special teams play that isn't real like we got to get this better we got

to fix how much better can they get like how much better will it be though if they do say okay let's say three years from now they're full-time officials is it that much better all right well it's got to be better if they ain't got a full-time job at least they can concentrate on the fucking game yeah that and also like what does confidence come from in my eyes as somebody who in my profession had like a moment of when i lacked confidence and then I found it again. And then I realized it's in those massive moments that you just rely on like your fundamentals. Like you just rely on what you worked on. Like you remind yourself of what you did.

If they're doing full-time camps and seminars and walking, they're just naturally going to be more confident. Just like these NHL refs. I think the thing about the NHL refs, and I'm sure there's NHL fans that are like, we got these. But in my eyes, they're the most confident. At least they're competent and confident. We have some NFL refs that are scared to death to be in the big moment. Scared, you can

tell. And then they just sit on it and move. I think at least confidence grows if they're spending their entire being focusing on this one thing, as opposed to selling cars or a law firm or they get somebody on a fucking murder trial. What are we even doing? Ian said that they don't want to lose their card.

They like selling cards. They don't want to be a full-time player. Yeah, that was Ian's response. Well, some of these refs really like their job. Well, get them the fuck out of the league. Okay, cool. On to the next one. Yeah, cool.

Yeah, we like our job. Sweet. Yeah. You know, if I wanted to play in the NFL, you know what I wouldn't be able to do that? I like a lot to the next one. Yeah, cool. We like our job sweet. You know, if I wanted to play in the NFL, you know what I wouldn't be able to do that I like a lot? Probably this show. Okay, but I'm in the NFL.

That's crazy. Welcome to the fucking show, dude. I don't know how that isn't the view. And if Roger was to ever come on the program, I don't like tipping questions to anybody, but I would certainly say, what are we doing with the refs? Why not?

What are we? And then I would like to... He'd give us a right to the point answer, no question. I don't know if he's ever dealt with somebody like me. I feel very confident in conversation. I feel pretty confident. I'd like to know

a little bit about everything so I can talk to anybody about anything. If you get out of that comfort zone, we've got to keep the convo here and we've got to get it back to something what I mean, we've got to keep the convo here, and then we've got to get it back to something where, so you can kind of have that. In the NFL, and with his decisions, I'm very confident in, like,

knowing everything about Roger Goodell. And I have a lot of respect for what he's been able to accomplish with the NFL. I mean, 1.5 million people in queue for tickets for the fucking Frankfurt game between the Chiefs and the Dolphins this morning. So where Roger Goodell has led the NFL,

and obviously there's other people making decisions, and people say he's just the bodyguard for the NFL owners. You think they're paying him $60 million because he's just a bodyguard? You don't think he's coming up with ideas and solutions and everything like that to guide this league where everything else is doing this? Everything else is doing this. The fucking NFL is doing this. It's the last thing left. It's the last thing left on TV, on anything that is doing this. Everything else is doing this. The fucking NFL is doing this. It's the last thing left.

It's the last thing left on TV, on anything that is appointment TV. Hey, I'm going to watch this at this time. It's one of the few things where you can get massive amounts of people to watch. So I have massive respect for everything, Roger. But there are some things that the NFL does that I just don't understand. Do we know what the refs are asking for? Have they asked for anything? How much is it?

It's got to be something that they are not releasing that we don't know about. Yeah. And why don't the refs ever just put out a reason why we didn't agree to a deal? This is like when the NFL was negotiating with the NFL PA in the NFL filters information out through pundits. And you're like, we just offered them 51 percent of the money, blah, blah, blah, and blah, blah, blah. They turned down $7 billion extra or something like that. And then the person will go say it. And everybody's like, these players are fucking stupid.

They're greedy millionaires and everything like that. And it's like, the player's like, well, they actually threatened to take away all insurance from us. Well, it's like, well, that information never gets made public. So we only hear one side. The refs don't really have to answer for shit. Yeah. They have those pool reporters every once in a while where they just say, we'll look at it again and then we'll let you know our thoughts.

Release that statement. And then it just kind of move on. They don't really talk ever. And we never hear about why there isn't a full-time deal. That needs to happen though. That script conversation. Okay. That was very loud last year yeah and that was

the first year really was 17 how many states 20 20 i want to say 26 or yeah 20 plus i thought 20 some say that's the first year where there's like a good portion of people but it's only going to keep growing so that you just can eliminate that narrative would be smart it's just what i think and worth the financial whatever it is when you zoom out long-term. Personally, that's what I think. I mean, the reality is that they should have went to full-time refs after the replacement ref fiasco. Like, after that, they should have been like, hey, we see how bad it can be.

Like, this is terrible. We can't ever go back to this. And the reality is they should have just fucking mad full-time refs right after that. That should have been part of bringing the refs back. Was that against the Packers? Yeah. Packers lost the game to the Seahawks because of the fucking replacement refs.

Were you in that game, AJ? Yeah, I was there. Oh, heartbreaker, huh? It was tough. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's a tough one. It got the refs back, though. It did get the refs back. Thank you, AJ. There back there was like little things that were happening with those replacing refs like

even in my world that nobody even knows about ball definitely should be spot on the left hash yeah they spot on the fucking right hash it's not a cable where were they reffing where were these replacement guys they come from college and high school or what i remember they said a couple of them came from like d3 it was bad they It was bad? They weren't even doing major college football. That's the more reason why we need full-time refs. They should have a PA for the refs, if anything. I don't know if that helps. If there's a union, they need better folks.

The issue is all the good ones got plucked at TV. All the good ones got plucked at TV. How many young people are trying to become refs? So that's the other question. So there's nothing. You make it a real profession with like a real pipeline with like internship and a training camp and everything, you can get former players in there, right? Isn't that a –

Some of them, yeah. I definitely want some of them doing it. Okay, and if they're not good, don't let them on the field. You sound a little judgy there. Just like anything. What do you mean? Yeah, like I want people – like I'm trying to think who would be the ideal person to be a ref in the NFL.

Someone that maybe played some football at some level. It could be even high school. That loves the game and is like a sporting nerd. Sporting like, hey, I'm into all of this stuff. And I want to make sure this game continues the way it is. Kent Gumbel. Chris Crockett. Can't do anything really.

Chuck Davis. Chris Crockett. Pretty good. Chris Crockett? good Chris Crockett Yeah Safety Okay put him in there Charles Davis for sure

Gary Brackett Yeah Gary Oh yeah I'd want Gary Brackett out there Refing Joining us now is Wayne Krabat

Yeah That'd be awesome DJ Khaled DJ Khaled probably figured out I don't know if Wes Welker Welker he's coaching Yeah he's doing his thing

But he might want to ref If ref you know They bump that salary up. Just all year working on it. Guys would feel like they're a part of something. I mean, it would be good. Edelman. Let's pivot away from football.

This man has wasted too much time listening to us pitch about the refs, about a potential conversation that's never going to happen with Roger Goodell. True. Joining us now is the insider for baseball. He is the face of baseball. Actually seen him covering college baseball the other day in a sweet suit and tie with his hair coiffed perfectly. Ladies and gentlemen, grab the gas. It's time to fuel the jet.

Jeff Pass. Yeah. Yeah. What's up, buddy? What's up, fellas? Hey, Connor, can you do me a favor and just turn around like 180 degrees? The mullet looks tremendous today, and I want to see how far it's

flowing right now. It goes back. Honestly, at first when he went full mullet, I was out. It's working, man. No joke. I'm not setting you up for a punchline or anything. It looks fantastic.

That was very nice of you, Jeff. It, it looks bad. Get approval. All right. That was nice, Jeff. That was very nice of you, Jeff. Yeah, wow. It's a good Tuesday. It's a nice Tuesday. It's a great Tuesday. Listen, I know he's going to be a scumbag all the time. I got to give him compliments now and again.

Okay. I knew there was something. The jet doesn't just take off. No, it's a whole new guy. The mullet was born. Yeah. Summer solstice. Longest day of the year.

The mullet comes. He's been a brand new guy. True. You should have seen him in Nashville. Oh, my God. Nashville. Whole new guy. The mullet was born. Summer solstice, longest day of the year. The mullet comes. He's been a brand new guy. You should have seen him in Nashville. Oh my god. Nashville. Whole new guy. Had sunglasses, the helmet on. He's being real friendly to everybody. He's a whole new guy. I love that. I don't believe it for a second,

but I love it anyway. He did steal somebody's hat. I did. I stole a lot of things. Just normal stuff. Didn't buy a drink for anybody, but did try to alcohol poison me. Yeah, that was true. That was something. Anyway, let's get back to baseball, the world that you're in. Seen you covering the College World Series.

Obviously, number one overall pick, either Dylan Cruz or Paul Skeens. Which I just assumed it was Skeens going to the Pirates, number one overall. He's 6'7". he throws 100 miles an hour. Is that not what fucking baseball is? What are we doing? But then you think about Dylan Cruz, Golden Spikes Award winner. He was fun to learn about, and he seems to be like all the moxie and incredible at baseball.

Teammates loved him, even though he's been hyped up as a superstar, I guess, for numerous years. Could have been a millionaire, wanted to do college life. So let's get to this. With the LSU team, is this like what normally happens in the college baseball world series? Like they'll have how many guys in the majors? They got the two best players right now. They're obviously going to win.

Is that normally what happens? And how different was this year versus last year, if that makes sense? This, Pat McAfee, is the power of NIL showing itself. Because LSU, it's like in women's basketball, doing the same thing right now. LSU wants to build the biggest powerhouse in college athletics that we've ever seen. And Paul Skeens was at the Air Force Academy. He was a two-way player. He was like Otani. He was a catcher and he was a pitcher before this year but uh lsu came

calling he went down there they turned him to a pitcher full time and he's the best pitching prospect pat that we've seen since garrett cole and steven strasburg coming into the mlb draft he's got everything like you said he's big he's strong's disciplined, he's got work ethic, and his shit is off the charts. It's not just a 100-mile-an-hour fastball. He throws a fantastic sweeper, which is the slider that goes side to side. He's got a changeup that's devastating in his start. Did you see the Wake Forest LSU game, by the way? No, I heard it was awesome.

Pitchers do a real one yeah uh hungover ryan mcgee uh was really he called it the best college baseball game best college world series game he's ever seen and that guy has seen a lot of college world series i mean i mean it was a pitcher's duel between skeens and Rhett Lowder, who's going to be a top 10 pick himself. Goes to extra innings. Tommy Tanks hits the walk-off home run. Another guy who transferred from NC State. NIL money there. I mean, it just goes to show you, in college sports, when you want to be good, there is an avenue to that that goes well beyond recruiting and coaching and facilities now.

All you need to do is get that collective going and get that paycheck out there. And you're going to be, I mean, you know, Kylie McDaniel, our draft and prospect insider at ESPN, did an analysis on LSU versus major League Team's farm systems. And like Kylie said, LSU's roster right now is more valuable than about a third of the entire farm systems across Major League Baseball. I love that they do that. You know, we have a collective at West Virginia. It ain't working.

It's going backwards. So LSU is doing something. You know, they're doing something down there, and I'm enjoying watching it. I wish we would have seen Skeens last night a little bit. But I enjoyed watching Hurd kind of do his thing. I like to hear that they're being aggressive. Another NIL guy, by the way.

Okay. Thatcher Hurd's story is super interesting because he got the money, got some grief for it, donated all of it to the lsu food pantry so thatcher heard used his nil money to go and feed people who are in need which is a super cool thing and then to see him go out there and shove the way he did last night was awesome hell yeah he's shoving all over the place just like i liked back when the yankees used to pay more than everybody to win i like when teams are like are we trying to win? Yes. Is everybody trying to win?

Yes. Cool. This is what we're going to do. I hope they have continued success. We always like seeing that. Go ahead, AJ. Jet, do we know what these NIL deals for baseball players, like the top of the market, look like compared to other sports like football, basketball?

Are they getting anywhere near that kind of money? I don't think so um i mean i don't think that herd was like 58 000 wasn't it when that herd won like 58 000 or something like that i think we're in like for the best players i think we're in more of the like one to two hundred thousand range um you know there were there were rumors about players getting seven figures but we were never able to substantiate those. Hey, maybe it's true. As college baseball gets more popular, I'd love to believe that the players are going to be paid what their actual value and worth is. And I think this College World Series was really a phenomenal

showcase for people who may not have been into college. Like baseball's been having some moments this year where non-traditional events like the World Baseball Classic or like the College World Series are getting a lot more run in the sporting public than they have in the past. And I think it's great to see because when you have a brand new Major League Baseball

with the pitch clock, but you've also got these other events that are all built into this baseball universe and everything sort of ties in together you know kyle teal from virginia college world series um paul skeens wyatt lankford from florida dylan cruz there were like seven top 10 picks ret louder who, who were in the College World Series this year. When your stars can be at your marquee events, it's a lot easier to sell to the public on why this game is so great. Yeah, I said a week and a half ago

that I would never watch the College World Series. I said, we're having Jeff Passan on today. Don't know why. Zero percent of this College World Series thing interests me. I will not watch it. And then I found myself watching it, obviously, home with the baby and the wife and nothing else on. And then you start tasting the

environment and the vibes. And then there's something to the sound of that bat. You know what I mean? There's something to the sound of that bat hitting there. Let the majors use them. Yeah, why not? Hit 1,000-foot dongers. That'd be awesome. Oh, dongers.

1,000 feet. Oh, my God. I've been saying for the longest time at the Home Run Derby, if you're going to do a timed event, they should have a pause at the 30-second mark, and the metal bats come in there, and you just see 550-foot nukes for the last 30 seconds. That's smart.

We should definitely do that. I hope they listen. But speaking of the bats, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Jed, obviously in the second game, Florida was rolling. They scored 24 runs. And then in the third game, LSU scores 18. What was the deal with the bats? Because obviously they kind of fell off for Florida.

Did they switch their bats? Did they not use the same bats in the third game? Did LSU get Florida's bats for the third game? Did LSU get Florida's bats for the third game? What was the situation there? Because they really did kind of fall off a cliff, and obviously when you're scoring 24 runs, it's going to go down a little, but they started off in the first inning,

hit a homer, and then they just kind of never did anything after that. Yeah, I'm not going to speak, Connor, to specific teams, because I don't know details on that. But there was a really interesting story in Baseball America a couple weeks ago about why offense and home runs are up so much this year in college baseball. And they listed a couple reasons. Maybe it's something that has to do with the ball.

Maybe it has to do with the pitching. But the big takeaway I got from that story is uh across college baseball there are a lot of questions about the legality of these metal bats situation that's why i'm not speaking to any specific team any specific, and I would never dare do such a thing. But I will say this. If you go onto the internet right now and Google shaved and rolled bats, there are companies out there that make bats hotter.

You send them your bat, and they go literally inside the bat. Two to three hours. It's almost like corking of bats. And they do some dirty work on those bats. And, you know, the testing process that's in place right now by the NCAA for bats, frankly, is not up to snuff. Like there are teams that are out there that are absolutely outside the parameters of what a bat is supposed to be like. And the thing is, college baseball uses what's called BB core bats. You know, back in the 2000s, there were these bats that were designed that were,

I mean, the balls that were coming off of them, frankly, were dangerous. Like, it was scary how hot the ball was coming off these bats. And so they put these parameters in place with BB Corps to try and make them more like wood bats. They are not performing like wood bats at all. Like these things are, it's like something the space program would create. And, you know, it's no doubt. And it's leading to this amazing offensive explosion, which, you know, you can argue is never a bad thing for baseball. I mean, the most popular baseball ever was, was when Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire were,

you know, allegedly using steroids. But the, the idea, Pat, that guys are doing this perfectly legally right now. I, I don't buy it.

And it's interesting because it causes questions for all the major league teams that are scouting these guys, you know, is that the batter? The guy is at the batter. The guy is at the batter. Yeah. They've been,

they've become so reliant on data. Like what's a guy's exit velocity and what launch angle does he hit at that? When you have questions about the bat, you begin to question the launch angle and the have questions about the bat you begin to question the launch angle and the exit velocity and when you begin to question that you've got to go back more to the traditional scouting do i like this guy's swing do i like his makeup uh you know once he transitions to wood bats is he going to completely fall off the face of the earth or

is this going to be a guy whose talent plays regardless of the equipment is this guy playing in beer league softball or in the majors? We get it. We understand what you're saying. And kind of add on to what you just said there, Zito used to run a softball league in Illinois, one of the best softball leagues of all time. Oh, yeah.

Had to test the bats for pressure, the amount of pressure. Compression test because there was people that got, I think, died. I think somebody died with a softball. Yeah, pitchers were dying. The return speed of the ball was just fucking getting right in the face. Zito, did you ever cheat? No.

Zito's running a league. Zito's not cheating a league. Have I used a loaded bet? I have. Not in your league. Not in your league. Somebody else's league. They should have been running the same compression test you were running. And as soon as you told me you were doing that in your beer league softball game

because people died in Illinois, I just assumed they would be doing that in a college World Series. So I think there is a way to potentially kind of find it. Maybe they don't want to because 24 runs and then 18 runs followed in the World Series is certainly a little bit more interesting to the casual fan than if it's not taking place. But those balls were going so far on such a regular basis.

It was – I enjoyed it personally, but I guess there is some bat controversy. Ty has a baseball question for you, I assume. Yeah, Jed, is it just in vogue now where any guy who is a two-way player in college, like we just compare him to Otani? any guy who is a two-way player in college, we just compare him to Otani. I mean, Caglione, he pitched and didn't pitch very well, but he's also a great hitter.

And then you said Skeens is Otani-like. How many of these guys who are going to get... He is not happy with you, Jet. No, it's not Jet necessarily, but I feel like, as a baseball purist yourself, Jet, you understand how difficult and how insane what Otani is doing actually is. How many of these guys who are potentially going to get drafted are actually going to play both ways in the majors? It's only Otani, right? Yeah.

We have to remember that before Otani, there was Babe Ruth. It's 100 years between the two. And there were some Negro Leagues players who went both ways. But it just goes to show how difficult this is. I think we use Otani as a point of comparison just because he's actually able to do it. And we want to believe, like, deep down that this incredible thing we're seeing on a daily basis from him can even be replicated at 60, 70, 80%. Like I could see a scenario in which Jack Caglione, who's got phenomenal power, plays first base on a regular basis and maybe comes out of the

bullpen. Because, you know, he struggles with his control, struggles with his command, but he's got premium stuff. And that's the sort of thing that you normally see in a relief pitcher um the giants last year took a kid in the first round named reggie crawford out of yukon and he was just coming off tommy john surgery but reggie crawford another left left guy throws 99 miles per hour and hits nukes so reggie crawford they're trying that as a two-way player down in the minor leagues right now. And there have been experiments in the past. You know, Brendan McKay with the Rays came out of Louisville as a two-way player

and, you know, made it to the big leagues, but has been hurt. Casey Kelly with the Red Sox, they were trying that for a little while. That didn't pan out. The point you're making is a really astute one. It is so, so hard to do what Shohei Otani is doing.

A guy in Georgia yesterday said, oh, that ain't that impressive. Yeah, pretty much. He ain't got nothing on Jack Otani. Yeah, bingo. That's exactly what he said. And then obviously what happens to Jack happens to Jack. And then we kind of continue to watch Shohei play in big-time games that aren't the playoffs of the MLB

because the team stinks still. They stink still? No, they're doing okay right now, actually. And the thing I like about them is, yeah, they're on the cusp of a playoff spot at this point. The thing I really appreciate about the Angels right now, like, they're really trying. You know, when they were having

a hole at shortstop early in the season they called up Zach Netto who was their first round pick last year you don't see guys make it to the big leagues within a year of being drafted and they just put him in at shortstop immediately and he's been great um you know they've had issues with Anthony Rendon getting hurt on the left side so So they trade for Eduardo Escobar and Mike Moustakas, neither of whom is going to be a game changer, but neither of whom is a replacement player necessarily either. And that's the thing. They are in hard sell mode on Shohei Otani right now

because they know if they don't make the playoffs this year, it's going to be really, really difficult to bring him back. All of baseball should be pushing for him not to go back if they don't make the playoffs again. Yeah. I mean, look, baseball would be a much, much better game with Shohei Otani playing in October. And I have no, you know, I have no horse in the race here. All I want is to see the best players playing in the biggest moment. That's why the college world series this year was so awesome, right? Because the best players playing in the biggest moment. That's why the college world series this year was so awesome, right?

Because the best players were in the biggest moment. The fact that Mike Trout hasn't played in the post season since 2014. It's an embarrassment. It's an embarrassment. For more than a decade and still. I'm sick of it, AJ. You know,

the big, the big moment that we needed for world baseball classic. We got it. Mike Trout was at bat. Shohei was pitching. That is the biggest moment that could possibly happen. And we got the greatest American and obviously greatest baseball player of generation is what everybody was saying.

And then Shohei does what Shohei does and then casually picks up the trophy, goes to the back. And we all think to ourselves, that's the biggest game that guy's ever played in. Why? By far. Oh, because the team stinks. Because the angels blow.

How do we do this? I thought this was baseball. You need a pitcher. He's the best. You need a hitter. He's the best. How much shitty play has to surround that for them not to win? Turns out it's a lot.

Hopefully they're able to figure it out. I'd like to see him play during football season. Because if not, I'm probably not watching any baseball. No chance. Pac-Man has a question for you, Jet. What up, Jet? Everybody in Cincinnati is going crazy about the Reds right now. When Cruz gets up the bat, he's the youngest

player to go for the cycle, so the whole team is Cruz! Then they come off and lose three games back-to-back. Be worried as a Red fan. Or should I be thinking about the good things that's going on pack the cincinnati reds this weekend hosted the atlanta braves who are the best team in baseball on friday night in front of a packed great american ballpark they saw one of

the best regular season games they've seen in the last 25 years. This is a franchise that has been starving for something, someone to root for. And Ellie Dela Cruz goes out and does his thing. And Matt McClain does his thing. And Spencer Steer. And you have all these rookies. And then the next two days, they lose one run games

to, again, the best team in baseball. Austin Riley afterward, you know, Austin Riley is a big guy, six, four, 230 pound, like looks like a football player, third baseman for the Braves. And he said, it felt like we played a football game on back to back to back days. That tells you how the Atlanta Braves regard the Cincinnati Reds. They see them as a peer, not just as an upstart that's trying to make waves right now, not just as a fluke. No, this is a team that's actually for real.

And if you're the Pittsburgh Pirates right now, what team is that guy on? Cincinnati Reds in the future because they are for real. Look, they may win the NL Central this year. You remember me coming on last time. I said I can see the Cincinnati Reds doing it, and then they rip off a 12-game winning streak. Who said the football thing?

What team was that? Braves. Braves. They're not going to win. That team's not going to win. I don't know much about them. They're not going to win, though. If that's what a guy's saying on the field,

it feels like we just played three football games. Is that right? Jeez Louise. This guy's got no clue about reality. Minus 3,000 to win their division. Jesus. Oh my God. Yeah, holy shit. Maybe they are going to win it all. They are good. Maybe you know. Maybe they

are. Maybe this guy's on to something. Maybe I misread him. But the Reds are getting good. Pirates are getting good. Tone has a question about the Pirates. Yeah, I do. You actually just mentioned the Angels bringing up a guy that they drafted last year, and that never happens. So when I'm seeing mocks that some of them have Dylan Cruz over Skeens when Skeens is MLB ready

and apparently going to make an impact right away, why are we seeing some that have Cruz going number one overall? Because Cruz long-term may be the safer bet. And at this point, I think Skeens can help the Pirates more right now. But Dylan Cruz, Tone, is a center fielder who hits for average, who gets on base, who has power, who has speed. He is like your prototypical five tool guy. And Paul Skeens is just a dude who's excellent at pitching, but because he throws so hard, the greatest correlation with an arm injury is velocity, right? So those hard throwing

guys are the most susceptible to get hurt dylan cruz is as sure of a thing as we've seen in the mlb draft like this is a loaded draft in most years cruz would go 1-1 skeens would go 1-1 wyatt langford would go 1-1 this year's got all three of a minute so honestly the pirates can't do wrong here if they go with any of those three college players. They're in a really good position. And even though schemes could come up this September and potentially pitch, they're not going to want to do that. And Dylan Cruz, honestly, is good enough where he could be in the big leagues by next year. He's that legit.

So as long as they're not taking a high school guy, number one overall, and trying to – Pat, let me explain to you the reason why they would do that. It's kind of what they did with – I don't want to hear it. Dylan Cruz is the most sure thing. Fucking take that guy. Yeah. We need another Jason Kendall in center field.

Got it. That's what I just heard. Happy birthday, Jason Kendall. It was his birthday yesterday. But I just heard Jason Kendall center field there from Cuz. He's the next Cuts. He's better than Jason Kendall. Whoa.

Whoa. Slow down. I don't buy slow down i don't buy it i don't buy it sounds like a fake story this guy maybe maybe too good to be true maybe too good to be true why would they take a high schooler though just because upside they don't have to pay them no it has nothing to do with upside. The way the MLB draft works is the best players don't go in order necessarily. Baseball is so fucking dumb. I'm trying to get on it. I'm trying to get on it. Okay.

Listen to what you just said. What are we even talking about? No, but let me, Pat, Pat, let me, let me sell you on this because I actually think this isn't necessarily a bad thing. What you want for your front office is the ability to be creative, right? You want the ability to go out there and not just have to walk down the same path. Like, listen, if you have a Wemba Nyama, if you have a Bryce Harper, Steven Strasburg, who is so very clearly the

number one overall pick, of course, you're going to take him. But what baseball allows teams to do they have set bonus pools with a specific amount of money. And you can spread that money around however you want it. So would you rather have a Dylan Cruz or a Paul Skeens? Or would you want one of these high school players like Max Clark or Walker Jenkins who have superstar potential? But then you can convince a guy to tell teams not to draft him because he wants a signing bonus that's too high float him down to your second third fourth round pick and get three or

four really good guys instead of putting all your money into one i don't want to be creative no i want to win i want to win now i now. I don't want to be creative. No. Going to win in the next couple years. Want to win right now. It's not like all these guys that are getting drafted have to go through at least a year or two. Yeah, so when they get drafted, even with NIL, these guys have to go to the minors? Yes, you cannot sign a major league contract out of the draft anymore.

You used to be able to. You can sign it. Here's the thing, Pat. You didn't sell me at all, by the way. You did not sell me at all. I don't know how that was. Was that an action? Well, that's because you don't want to think.

No, I am thinking. I am thinking. Oh, yeah, I bet you are. I am thinking. I'm thinking, Dylan Cruz, what are we talking about? This guy wins a gold spike. I was pissed we weren't getting ske Cruz. What are we talking about? This guy wins the Golden Spikes. I was pissed we weren't getting Skeens. And then he told me this guy's the most sure thing.

It's a draft. We can get the most sure thing on our team. Let's fucking do that. Well, actually, he can float around a little bonus pool and go get three guys that maybe one of them could potentially maybe be a Cruz. And now you've got a wider net. Give me the fucking guy. What are we?

Just say he's better than Jason Kendall. Yeah. And now we're got a wider net. Give me the fucking guy. What do we do? Just say he's better than Jason Kendall. Yeah. And now we're not drafting him? Come on. How's that even happen? There's no way. Yeah. Honestly, his jaw is not as square as Jason Kendall's.

That's a fantastic jawline right there. You should have seen his pop time. Go do that. You know how you said earlier, go on the internet and look up the whole bat shaving thing? Look up Jason Kendall's pop time, too. Don't be scared to do that. One-two, Jet. I'll do it for you.

Boom! Boom! Did you just drop a pop time on me? Yeah, January 2nd, we celebrated Jason Kendall pop day. That's right. Come on. We all know what pop times are, Jet. Anyways, Jet, we appreciate the hell out of you, buddy.

Baseball seems to be in a great spot. How's the pitch clock going? Is it better? It's awesome. How about Oakland? Two hours and 38 minutes for the average game, Pat. It's a beautiful thing because the game's the same otherwise. You've just shaved off 30 minutes of garbage, and it's awesome.

Hell, yeah. How about Oakland? I seen that Manfred, right? Yep. Bob? Yep. Bob Manfred came out and said, said yeah it was nice to see about an average crowd in the mlb this year show up in oakland it was cool little shit talk in the middle

of that whole thing in the middle of that whole protest that was taking place obviously baseball fans were not happy with his response and and that but how is that whole situation over there right now it's a mess i mean las vegas is getting a terrible team that it's probably not going to want to see the stadium's not going to be built until 2028 so we have no idea where they're going to play whether it's going to be a triple a ballpark yeah or are they going to stay i mean the whole thing is a mess and it's been a mess from the start and for rob manfred to have said what he said was just it was irresponsible it was childish and it was dumb i'm sick and thank you classic man thank you for saying that about time well listen you go back to him calling the world.

Piece of metal. That was the first we got introduced to you. Yeah, this to me was the worst thing he said since that. Because what are you saying if you're the commissioner of a sport and you're essentially demeaning your fans? Like that's what fans took away from this. And understandably so. If the commissioner is standing there and talking down to a group of people

who are trying to say to him, we love baseball, we just don't love this owner and all of the crap that he's pulled throughout the years, shouldn't you as a commissioner say we appreciate the Oakland fans and we hear the Oakland fans and we understand? No, he's not going to do that because much like Roger Goodell, like you were talking about, he is a well-paid flak jacket. Like that's what Rob Manfred is for the owners. He takes all of the bullets for them and he is extraordinarily well compensated for it. All right. Well, it sounds like he doesn't do anywhere near as good of a job as Roger Goodell.

But I do appreciate the fact that he said, I'm going to be heel. Fuck these people. They want to protest me. I don't care. I'm not in the baseball community. I did not. When I saw it, I was like, this guy's talking shit. This commissioner is heel right now.

That is a wild response from that commissioner. But hopefully they'll get it figured out. Sounds like the Vegas situation is a nightmare. But just like everything else in Vegas, it'll get taken care of. That's right. It'll get figured out. Vegas stays in Vegas. Well, not always.

Hey, not always. We appreciate the hell out of you, Jet. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. Jet Pass. Yeah, Jet! And joining us live in studio because he had to speak at a Congress and had an event and had another meeting. Big thing.

Big thing. Huge. This guy does stuff. Yes, he does. I believe, I don't know if it's the, I don't know the fucking titles of it. I don't know if he's in the House. I don't know if he's in the Senate. I don't know what his actual job is.

I have no idea. He's a congressman who was able to ask questions to somebody that was supposed to have all the answers whenever it came to UFOs and aliens. After the Pentagon had decided to release some stuff, we thought we were going to get some real information. We didn't get shit out of that whole thing. But what we did learn about was this man out of Wisconsin's 8th Congressional District. Marine. Congressman Mike Gallagher. What an honor to be here.

My gosh. This is awesome, guys. You look badass. What are you laughing at, AJ? Congressman in a shirt, honestly. That was a part of the conversation. That was part of the conversation last time. What I wear.

Yeah, I understand. I didn't know this about congressmen, but as soon as you walked in, big pop out of everybody. Oh, yeah. That is what you choose to wear, and we'll dive into that, obviously. We as soon as you walked in, big pop out of everybody. Oh, yeah. That is what you choose to wear. And we'll dive into that, obviously. We got extras in the back. Very nice of you.

Thank you. Very, very nice of you. All right, let's dive into this. You have been incredibly kind to us. You have reached out to me to keep my eyes peeled for potentially something that's coming. When it comes to UFOs and aliens and everything like that, with what just took place allegedly in Vegas and everything else that seemingly be smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke everywhere with this. Are we anywhere near a time where you think from the information that you have as a congressman,

which I still don't know what the fuck that is, but as a congressman, are we going to get any info, you think? Is this really going to be something in our life soon, you think? Yeah, I actually do. So if you think about what we've done since I was last on the show, we had that hearing, which I think everyone agrees was completely unsatisfying. We didn't get any answers. I asked them basic questions about historical incidents they couldn't answer.

So what do we do after that? We actually passed with Senator Rubio and Senator Gillibrand in the Senate. So I'm in the House. They're in the Senate. There's two aspects of Congress. Boom! Okay. There's a electoral college. This thing's crazy. You got a president. You got the Senate. There's two aspects of Congress. Boom. Okay. All right. There's a electoral college, too. This thing's crazy. You got a president.

You got a board. The executive, I mean, the branch. Schoolhouse rock. It's crazy. Got it. Yeah, figured out. We're done. So we passed the big aliens bill.

And so this aliens bill did a few key things. One, it created a one-stop shop for all UAP reporting, something called AERO, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. So if somebody has information they think is relevant, if somebody's working in the intelligence community, if someone is working for a defense contractor and they have information related to UAPs, they can report it to AERO, which is critical. We also task AERO with doing a bunch of homework. So doing a historical report on every incident going back to 1945, because again, they couldn't answer basic questions about the Malmstrom incident. So Aero

owes us a bunch of reports looking through the historical records. And then most importantly, and this is absolutely critical, we created kind of the mother of all whistleblower processes, where if you want to come forward, but you're afraid of being punished or afraid of breaking what's called a non-disclosure agreement, an NDA, we have a process where you can talk to Congress or you can talk to Arrow and say, hey, I saw this, I saw that, I was part of this program. And so that was a monumental piece of legislation. And what's happened since we passed that is all sorts of- How many? Are coming out of the woodwork. How many people do you think? Like we're talking hundreds, tens? For the whistleblowers

that we've spoken to in Congress, I can't talk about who they are or the precise numbers, but we have had people come forward. Senator Rubio talked about a few people that he's talked to last night, in a public forum that he had. So the old rules were whenever you'd see something, you'd have to report it chain of command, obviously. And then you sign an NDA, you'll never talk about this again. I think there's a lot of documentaries that kind of have people that say, I was told directly not to talk about this. And then they're on the documentaries,

either their faces or things or their voices are kind of diluted. Now you guys are saying you can break the NDA that you were told by one point come to tell us because we need the information. Why is now the time we need the information more than ever before? Because we keep getting more of these incidents that people are reporting. I think as technology gets more ubiquitous and democratized, people have more access to imagery and things like that. It's just impossible to deny.

And for the first time ever, at least in my lifetime, as a result of, I think, that hearing and the destigmatization of this process. Because the other problem was, even if you had legit top gun pilots coming forward, they were getting ridiculed by all the people that they worked with. Mav? I mean, Mav, Iceman, Goon, Rooster. People talking shit on Mav? I didn't know Mav was coming out saying stuff like that. It doesn't age.

Mission Impossible coming up. So now with this whistleblower process people are coming out of the woodwork we've also had people separately that are going public and doing interviews based on claims that they're making. Dave Rush did an interview with the Debrief

Chris Mellon has written an op-ed recently and they're claiming that there is a long-standing program to reverse engineer crash materials that people have discovered on the Earth that could have extraterrestrial origins. All this discussion is happening out in the open like nothing I've seen, and I think it's a result of the hearing and the legislation. We've still got a long way to go, but it's coming out there.

Yeah, Whistleblower said that we have craft and being. Oh, yeah. And then Holly, Josh. Josh Holly. Josh Holly. Senator. I almost dropped a Todd in there. So he's from the different side over there, right?

And Rubio spoke about this. They've basically come out and said, what we've been hearing is very similar to what this Whistleblower has heard. Is that from the hearings that you guys set up from this new Aliens Act where you have to sign NDA? And is everybody kind of telling the same exact thing? Again, I have to be very careful

protecting the whistleblower process, but it is through the whistleblower process that people are contacting Congress and going through a debrief process where they're saying they've been part of this or that program, and again, we can't reveal the precise nature of what's been

said, but we've had a variety of pretty intense conversations. How do you guys lay that out, you think? Once we get enough information, you guys just say, all right, flop them out. This is the alien. This is the UFO. How does that information kind of get wrong? Because the boys have some ideas. There's a lot of different ways

we can go about it. Do we know if they play sports? We would obviously like to get involved in that entire aspect. We'd like to compete if they would like to compete. And if they want to fight, we've got some motherfuckers too. You know, if they want to do that, we can do it. But how do you feel like the rollout introduction to the world would go about actual aliens and UFOs if you were to have it? So part of the homework we gave Arrow is they have to do a twice a year. They have to give us a classified briefing. And twice a year, they have to give us a classified

briefing, and once a year they have to do an unclassified briefing. Usually when we get these unclassified briefings in written or in spoken form, they're unsatisfying. They don't really go into the details. So I think once we've compiled all this information, and there's other stuff we have to do, we're going to pass hopefully another piece of legislation that Rubio is doing in the Senate

and I'll do in the House, which basically says if you are part of any reverse engineering, crashed exotic materials recovery program, you are not allowed to access any government dollars, but we'll offer you amnesty to come forward and report to us because the claim that Dave Grush and others are making is that these programs exist and they're in violation of the law because Congress is unaware of them. So we have to smoke that out in order just to examine that claim and i think if we have a better body

of evidence then we could come forward with it i am in favor of transparency on this i think the american people i think that's gonna be a shock factor though that's gonna fuck up a lot of shit it's not the worst case scenario though think Think about, I would actually, depending on what the intention of the aliens are, if indeed it is extraterrestrial. Last time I was here, we went through all the different hypotheses, right? To include the Terminator hypothesis. So hold on though. Maybe it is

potentially time travelers or whatever, which would be crazy. That would be absolutely crazy. Probably that orange globe. Yeah, the portal. Yeah, we all saw that. But if it was, which some people just try to write it off as, and I know AJ and all the boys have questions, I apologize here, but if they were to write it off as foreign threat or like a different country stuff, we're still fucked, right?

Because they have stuff that can do stuff that we don't have, right? That's my point. That, in my opinion, could be the worst case scenario. If it's China or Russia and they have advanced technology. That we can't even sniff, right? And we can't even understand the physics of it. I mean, some of the things are going Mach 5 and changing direction. But if it was them, they would already use that, right?

In what scenario? We haven't fought a force-on-force, great power conflict with either. I mean, we get basically involved in the proxy war in Ukraine right now, but we haven't gone. Last time the Chinese fought a war was 79 against the Vietnamese. Didn't end well for them. So they sent a balloon over to say, this is what you guys got. So that's the other thing that's happened, right? So in addition to

people coming out of the woodwork, people going public to the media with their reports, we had four balloons shot down over North America, which I don't remember the last time that's ever happened. Now, one of these, the Chinese spy balloon, we've been briefed on, but the other three, including one that went over Lambeau Field, Ty, all right, that was one that crossed.

I know you're a big Packer fan, I agree. Team looks new this year. I don't know if they're going to have any aliens on it. One certainly left town, went to play. Jordan Love might be an alien. Yeah, we don't know. Deep voice. Good player.

Anyway, AJ, you have any questions for Congressman Gallagher? Yeah, I do. You mentioned committees. I know you're on multiple committees. Aren't you on a committee? Something to do. Has to do something with China. What is that doing?

And what do you think the other question would be when people try to tell you there's a big distraction from something going on? What's your answer to that? What does that even mean? What are we getting distracted from? Well, let me take it in reverse. At all times, you're saying. Not just right now, right? Yeah, right now especially.

You mean like aliens as a distraction. Yeah. Yeah. Well, first of all, there's stuff appearing on our training ranges, and we don't understand where it's coming from. So as someone who focuses on defense and the defense competition with China, we have to figure that out. We have to be able to control our rangers.

Otherwise, you're putting pilots in jeopardy, right? That's why you're so passionate about this. That was my entry point into it. And also now I'm just curious about answering the question. I think there's actually a bigger issue, too, of people losing trust in government, trust in institutions. This should be an opportunity for the government to be transparent. If we have information that disconfirms the UAP hypothesis, the extraterrestrial hypothesis, or all these other ones, it at least shows the government doing something competent and being forward-leaning by declassifying information to the public.

So for those two reasons alone, I think it's worthy of investigation. And the third one that I'm probably most interested in is whether it's adversary technology, particularly China. So I chair the Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party in the House, and we're in charge of developing a comprehensive strategy for how we beat the CCP over the long term. In my opinion, the CCP is by far the biggest threat we faced. In some ways, it's bigger and more complex than the threat we faced from the old Soviet Union and the old Cold War and beating the Chinese as they attempt to do a variety of things to undermine our sovereignty, you know, send fentanyl into America, killing 80,000 Americans a year,

threaten war in the Pacific by threatening to take Taiwan. That, to me, is the biggest national security issue. That's what I'm in charge of in the House. And this is a small subset of that overall effort, if it's adversarial. Got it, got it, got it. So that's how you tie into it. Because if it is who you are supposed to be trying to keep up with, you are just trying to tell everybody, we're fucked.

If they got this, I don't know if I got the plan. We're going to have to grab some other people, maybe some outer-worldly thoughts, and kind of get it going. Do you think around Washington there is a lot of obstacles for you to get this answer? Isn't Washington just like, I don't know much about your world, okay? At all. On purpose.

I try to stay out of it. Seems like everybody that gets into your world, miserable. Our friend Anthony Gonzalez, one of the best guys of all time. Cut him down at the knees. He got into politics. We told him, pal, what are you doing? Don't go in there. Everybody that I know in real life that gets into politics,

they just literally spend their time yelling at people. They have zero expectation of changing the way they think. They don't think they're going to be able to change the way other people think. They're just always pissed off. I try to stay out of it, like just for the good of me. At some point in my life,'m gonna have to pay attention i get that but now is not the time and hopefully not in the foreseeable future because i'm enjoying what i got going on but you guys never get shit done right and they're kind of what the whole thing

about washington is you guys just yelled each other the entire time who's yelling at you stopping you from leaking or finding out the actual alien stuff is there like an actual adversary that doesn't want anybody to know anything? And then why aren't we just questioning that person? Well, I think, so first of all, on China, I think there's actually a lot of bipartisan interest. We're working together. Hell yeah.

I think your average American, even who doesn't follow politics, is on board with us beating the Chai Comps in this competition. Is that what you guys say in group text? The Chai Comps? Chai Comps, yeah. Chinese Communist Party the Chai Comps in this competition. Yes. Is that what you guys say in group text, the Chai Comps? Chai Comps, yeah. Chinese Commerce Party, Chai Comps, yeah. CCP. I'm worried about the Chai Comps with this guy. Hey, good luck out there.

Good luck out there, Chai Comps. I think actually the biggest source of resistance is just people, it's almost like they're embarrassed to talk about the topic, right? They think they're going to be labeled a crazy tinfoil hat, conspiracy theory, Looney Tunes person. So just by having these discussions out in the open, I think it goes a long way. And most of the resistance is just from the bureaucracy in the Defense Department and in the intelligence community. I have about five requests right now of the intelligence community, things they owe me to come back on related to UAP stuff, and they're deficient on all these requests.

That might not come for, what, a year, two years, six months? Maybe. I mean, so that historical report is due next summer, and my understanding is they haven't even started drafting it right now, so I'm worried that they won't. That's going to be pushed more than Avatar. Yeah. Which have we asked about?

That might be James Cameron maybe. So the other hypothesis we didn't talk about last time is that this could, as opposed to being us from the future, it could actually be an ancient civilization. Oh, my God. That's just been hiding here for all this time. Like Transformers. And it's suddenly showing itself right now. I'll smack those old fucks in the mouth.

Yeah, okay. Huh. As you know. If they're from this planet, I feel good about us. This is why we need you to get involved in politics. The answer is no. No way. Just a single issue voter.

Nah. Nah. Like 10 at a university. Nah. I don't need to get into any of it. That's the thing. I'm thankful that you're out there. You think more of you people are good people than bad people?

I would say this. When I ran in 2016. Oh, that's a no. Yeah, okay. When I ran in 2016, I thought the's a no. Yeah, okay. When I ran in 2016, I thought the problem with Congress is that it was just all corrupt and super old people.

And certainly, we have too many people that have been there for too long. This is why we need term limits. Well, those kind of go hand-in-hand, don't they? Yeah, and the more you get there, the more swampy you get.

And then these people go and they lobby for this company or they lobby on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party, actually, because actually because our foreign agent registration act processes are totally filled with loopholes we can't even get gumpy in here we got chai con people what the hell what is the deal aj uh i actually think there's a lot of you know people that come in who want to do the right thing we're getting a lot of new members young members people from the private sector people from the military and in some some ways, I've changed my opinion. I'm not sure the

problem is just the people per se, but the people find themselves in a process that sucks, where you basically have to choose, okay, am I going to do 20 years in order to get to a position of influence? And then finally, if I make it up that greasy pole, maybe I'll be a committee chair, you know, and I'll be able to do the things maybe I'll be a committee chair, you know, and I'll be able to do the things that I first wanted to do when I came in. Or they're just like, I'll just be a bomb thrower on social media or on cable news, and I won't be constructive at all. So it's the process that I think takes good people, and it just chews them up, and it

spits them out. So fixing the process and reforming the institution of Congress I think is the thing you need to get better people to run in the first place, but also get those people to perform when they're in there. Yeah, so that's never going to happen. Sweet. My only take on it all is like, I can't separate the political pundits

from the politicians. Like, hey, if you're a political pundit or activist, like, alright, if you're a political pundit or activist, like, all right, I get you being vocally everything. But if you're a politician, like, yeah, your ass is in there to fucking enact this stuff. We don't need you starting all the, like, I think there's no separation between the activists and the politicians.

Like, politicians are supposed to execute what the activist is looking for, but it feels like when the politician happens, this is very slight knowledge of the situation. It feels like they just become activists in a chair as opposed to somebody that actually gets stuff done in reality. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think as Congress gets weaker...

That's the one you're in. Well, yeah. Congress is both the Senate and the House. Fuck. Which is the one he's in. He's definitely in. I'm in it. That's what I've been saying this whole time.

I'm one of 435 in the House as opposed to 100 senators. So as Congress gets weaker, which is actually a scenario the framers did not anticipate, they were concerned Congress would get too powerful. They said it would suck everything into its impetuous vortex was the phrase they used. What's happened in the modern era, really starting in the 70s, the executive branch, the president and all the executive branch agencies has grown more and more powerful. Congress has delegated all its responsibility. But members of Congress are still power hungry and they want to, you know, they want to be famous and they want influence.

So they're going to the route of media in order to increase their power and influence. So they're becoming kind of like C-list social media celebrities as politicians as opposed to constructive legislators. Yeah, you're going to become C-list celebrity. Yeah, that whole thing. I don't want to say that I have no hope for it all, but I don't know enough about it to have hope. I liked hearing that you've changed your mindset, though. You know, you said you thought everybody was corrupt or old.

Now it's a little bit different. That's good news. You've been in there. We have not. And I'm happy to hear that you're at least coming on here for this particular discussion. I feel like that's at least a step in the right direction. Go ahead, Conor. Yeah, Congressman Gallagher, at this

point on the internet, it's almost like you see a different alien video every day. Legitimately yesterday, there was some sphere, similar to what Pat said that he saw, and it was splitting. It was in Vegas, and it just happened in Vegas the other day, that family where a kid gave a six-minute testimonial about what that was about and how they heard stuff on the roof

and everything like that. But there was one recently, and it was about a guy in the military, and he said that he actually saw a bunch of things being loaded onto some massive ship, and then the ship disappeared. And then after that, someone came up to him in a uniform, but no labels, no name tag or anything, no specific country. And so I'm not going to ask about some secret shit like that. that if there was aliens and the threat that they would want Earth for themselves, that the countries would kind of have to come together in some sort of like, hey, obviously the CCP can go to hell,

and we don't love what a lot of communists are doing, and I won't mention anybody else, whether there are specific people who are on shirts in this room. But isn't that a worry that if they're— Bill Belich no uh no no thanos this is kind of like a thing that's bill belichick no bill belichick's not a communist i can uh no we agree yeah i can tell you what you were saying was crazy just anybody shot i wasn't sure if aj had his chuck berry on underneath his or anything like that or you know anything specific, just in general. But is there some sort of thought or at least conversation, not the United States with the CCP, but even Canada, Mexico, London, or England?

Yeah, exactly. Is there a kind of emergency plan that the world almost has if things do go very, very in this type of alien war so if there's an emergency plan i haven't seen it one of the arguments people make for transparency for if there's information just get it out there even though the shock value would be high for sure is that it might actually spark collaboration across country even potentially with china at a time when geopolitical hostility is super high. Yeah. Yeah, which would create an interesting situation for me, given that my day job is to figure out how we beat the CCP.

Hell yeah. And then we've got to work with them on the aliens. We've got to put your sources on. Yeah, exactly. Hey, listen, we're all – yeah, I'm going to deal with you, though. Okay? Not now. For now.

Because we've got a little something coming. Put our sources down. They're talking about loading heavy machinery onto it. Yeah. And it was like 300 yards long, it said. Yeah. Three football fields. Three football fields long. And then it just vanished out of nowhere.

No sounds or anything. That person could have just been making it up. But it sounds like too many people are making fucking things up at this point. Well, that's probably, I mean, you know, we have over 500 reports since, I think, three years ago when some of this stuff started in earnest. The overwhelming majority of those are not going to be legit, right? They could either be explained away by natural weather phenomenon or, you know, the observer error. But there still remains a subset of reports that people can't explain away.

I mean, obviously, the most prominent one is the Tic Tac video, which is you can't discredit the pilots because they're legit pilots. Even some of these people that have come forward, like Dave Grush, who's the most prominent. He's the elephant in the room right now. He's an Air Force veteran. Who's Dave Grush? He is an Air Force veteran with tours in Afghanistan. He worked in the intelligence community for a long time at both the National Reconnaissance Office and

the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. He has now done an interview with the debrief. He did a public interview, I forget on what platform where he's making the claim that there has been a long-standing program whereby people find materials and in him is one of his claims is that there's intact machinery and craft that they found that that is not of this world that's exotic or extraterrestrial in its origin

and that we study these in an effort to reverse engineer it. That's the claim that Dave Grush is making publicly. And you guys are saying it's illegal because Congress doesn't know about it. He's saying this program is illegal because it's not subject to regular oversight by Congress. Got it. We're trying to figure out if such programs exist and create a mechanism through which people could come and talk to us about it. So then we can figure out, A,

is it legitimate information? And B, what the hell do we do about it? That seems like a pretty legit guy, though, saying something pretty serious. If not him, then who do you talk to? The Intelligence Committee of this guy's? IMF? Bingo. The Impossible Mission Forces. Forces, obviously. Mission Impossible, same thing. Pac-Man has a question for you.

Congressman Mike, is this total bullshit? We don't have something that explains this. We're saying it is against the law to give us something that backs this up. To me, it sounds like total bullshit. I haven't seen a picture of what it posted really look like. Yeah, we have seen stuff in the air that could be anything. Listen, as I told you guys last time I was here,

I came in very skeptical. The aliens hypothesis is not the one that I'm predisposed to. You're a Marine, too. I mean, I think natural trait would be not with the bullshits. Yeah, and it's also I just think there's bad guys out there trying to kill us constantly. Like on this earth.

Don't be so skeptical. We're okay. We're going to be alright. I just don't pay attention. It's true. It's a fact. At all times. Keep us safe. Chinese are trying to take us down. There's terrorists trying to take us down. The Iranian regime. We got enemies out there, Pat. We got a lot of enemies. I mean, are we

going to have to go Fargo fuck yourself? What is the... Argo. Argo fuck yourself with Iran again? What's the deal? Get Ben Affleck involved. Sure.

That was a good idea, wasn't it? Hollywood movie. Why don't you guys do that? Genius. So, I mean, we don't know. I mean, that's the whole point about, like, let's just get to the bottom of it. That's what we're trying to solve. By the way, so last time I was on here, the great A.J. Hawk told me to go to Right Pat,

which I did solely because A.J. Hawk told me to go to Right Pat. Did not see an alien at Right Pat. Did see what looked like an alien spacecraft that I texted you a picture of hiding in plain sight at the Air Force Museum. I mean, this thing looked like a UFO,

but I did not see any aliens at Right Pat. Is that the one in Ohio? Yeah, in Ohio. AJ, anywhere else he needs to stop by? That was the rumored spot, but I do like, who owns Epstein's Island right now? Do you know? What's going on with that whole situation? I don't know. What's wrong with you?

He's not the guy that has it. He's trying to feed chai cobs. He'll be there. The Chinese probably own it at this point. They're buying up all the farmland in America near a military base. They could own it. There was a movie about that. So why are you guys letting that happen? We actually fixed, which this gets to the problem about the executive branch too big and not held accountable.

We passed a law four years ago to fix something called the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. There's an interagency committee that's supposed to review all these types of deals. If a Chinese entity wants to buy a telecommunications company in America or a big food company in America, they have to pass the CFIUS review process. We amended their authorities to give them the authority to deny real estate purchases near military bases, and then they claimed they didn't have the authority when they put all sorts of implementing regulations in it. So now we're having to go back and clarify that authority

and shine a light on this dereliction of duty and potentially change the CFIUS process again so that the Chinese don't buy land right near military bases. Yeah, it's not just that, right? Food, right? A lot of farms are getting bought up and everything. Feels like that's a zoomed-out attack. Now, you said a lot of words there that nobody understands but you. But it sounds like what happened was a little fuckery.

And there was a little clause in there maybe that wasn't completely dotted or crossed of a T. And now a congressman has to do that to the executive committee? And then who has to sign off on that? So I have a bill right now. Jesus. This is what I'm talking about. I got a bill passed. You guys got no shot, right?

That thing's got no shot. Got to pass through your house. Hey, this is, we didn't optimize our government for efficiency, Pat. It's inefficient by design, all right? You don't want any one person to dominate. That's sort of the feature, not the bug of the system. But it is maddening. You can't get obvious things done.

That's the whole point. So you catch them when they buy those properties, like, what's the process? The process, well, there was a case in North Dakota. There's one brewing in Northern California near Travis Air Force Base. In a lot of cases, it's the local residents that are complaining, and then it winds its way up to us, and then we say, well, what the fuck, what are you guys doing about this to CFIUS? And then we just have to shine a light on it,

and then in order to get them to talk to us. And so that's how it happened in both these cases. So we don't in Congress have the ability, short of passing a law, to block this or that transaction. That's why we created this whole review process. Isn't this where all the smartest people go, allegedly, politics? Isn't this where smart people go? I would not say that Congress is a repository for the smartest people in the world. Okay.

I would say there are some very smart people there. Yes. But there's a lot of real-life people. It's a cross-section of them. They're dealing with real life who judge us sports people a lot. You know what I mean? Y'all motherfuckers need to tighten up. Okay?

Y'all need to tighten your shit up. I am about done. Harvard, all this other stuff, you guys can't do shit. You guys have ruined it. What do we even? What the fuck? That sounds like the worst operating process of all time. You just said a subcommittee of a subcommittee that has to meet about something about a law

that you can't even pass, that should pass. Well, I think we're going to pass this law. Atta baby. Here we go. Hey, we passed the aliens bill, Pat. Yeah. Because you guys were shining a light on it. Oh, we're a part of it. That's why you can't ignore it. Get Bill to the aliens bill, Pat. Yeah. Because you guys were shining a light on it. Oh, we're a part of it.

That's why you can't ignore it. Get Bill to the front of the line. That's a classic video. That's a classic one right there. I have a question for A.J. Hawk. Is that allowed? Absolutely. A.J. Hawk, I've been wanting to ask you this question my entire life.

So basically, when you were drafted, this would have been, what, 2006-ish? Yep. There was a field goal post across the street from the stadium, across Lombardi on Shadow Lane, and they put a huge hawk in the middle of it, and it said, the hawk has landed. And it was there for at least five years. Did you ever see that?

Because I would always drive by it, and I would think, it must be awesome to be A.J. Hawk and have this huge field goal with a gigantic hawk in there just being like, I have landed in Green Bay. Was that even on your radar at all? Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's right there. Yeah, I saw it.

I'm sure my parents probably have pictures of it somewhere. People there, as you know, people there are very nice and support the Packers. Who owns that field goal? That needs to be in his office. I don't know. Is the Hawks' landed field goal still up? No, they paint over.

I think they continue and they paint new things all the time. So Jordan Love. It's a big heart. Love is in the air. How do you feel about it? You pumped about it? New era? Got to do it?

I love love, man. What can I say? Hell yeah. There you go. Yes. There you go. Who makes that shirt? I don't know.

It's the internet. I think he made them. All I know is that they? I don't know. It's the internet. I think he made them. All I know is that they weren't made in China. All right, maybe. Tony has a question for you. Yeah, Congressman Gallagher, what's going on with when China was buzzing the tower of one of our airplanes or cutting off one of our ships? Is that them trying to get us to retaliate?

Fifth generation. Or what is going on there? It's them trying to get us to retaliate? Or what is going on there? It's them trying to get us to back down. So this is actually critical that you brought this up. So at the same time this was happening, I'm not going to get political, I'm not going to criticize the other side, but we, let's just say we, certain officials in

the government, in the executive branch right now, have been running around the world desperately trying to get a meeting with Xi Jinping or the defense minister. So our Secretary of Defense tried to sit down with their defense minister at this big conference in Singapore called Shangri-La. This guy's sanctioned because he used to be in charge of Hong Kong. The CCP took over Hong Kong. It's a big tragedy. So we're trying to sit down at the table with high-level Chinese Communist Party officials.

And every time we reach out for a meeting, they either refuse or they refuse and then do something like that, where they get dangerously close to one of our destroyers in the Taiwan Straits, or they buzz one of our airplanes. So the idea, in my opinion, is to collapse our will to fight to win without fighting and basically to get us to back down so that we wouldn't defend Taiwan if and when they make a move to take it over by military force, as well as just to flex their muscles on the world stage. I mean, we've been hemming and hawing about building a bigger Navy, building a 355-ship Navy for the past decade.

Well, the CCP went out and actually did it. They actually built the bigger Navy right now. So I think they're flexing their muscles in an attempt to intimidate us. Not by numbers. Yeah, we do, we do. Bigger, badder, stronger. What the hell? Ours is better, for sure. Bingo, yeah. Our average numbers. Yeah, we do. Bigger, badder, stronger. What the hell? Ours is better, for sure. Bingo.

Our average sailor is far more capable, trained. It's not a giveaway game plan here. No. We got the seals, too. Yeah, we got the guys, bro. We were ready to...

And Mav. So that plane, though, we have that plane, the one that they fucking do-si-do'd around our... That thing was sick. I thought I was watching Top Gun. Yeah.

That fucker did a full flip on his side. They turned that son of a bitch sideways. It went inverted. And then it did a stare down at however many hundreds of miles an hour, whatever that surveillance plane could go at, and then goes around and then just sails off. What it sounds like you were saying there

is that that was potentially a... Here's our response. Here's our RSVP to your wanting to meet with us. And then they do it again. Yeah, that's what they did. They got no, do we have any contact with these people that you think are our biggest? And do we do that too? We do what's called freedom of navigation patrols.

We'll send ships going through the Taiwan Strait just to maintain that this is, you know. Are these our best ships? These are good ships? Yeah, these are destroyers. They're highly capable ships. We have patrol planes that are going in the region. We lighten off fireworks while we're going through there? I don't think they lighten off fireworks, but they're demonstrating their capability. We've got 5th Gen fighters over here?

Do we? That's a good question. We do have 5th Gen fighters. F-35s are 5th Gen. The real issue with the Chinese military is it's not their navy that they built. It's not their advanced aircraft. It's that they built what I call an anti-navy. They built something called a rocket force.

So basically, for the last decade, they took long-range missiles because they weren't bound by any of these international treaties that we're bound by. And for relatively cheap, you're talking millions of dollars versus billions of dollars for a big ship, they can keep our ships out of the region or target them at very low cost because they have thousands and thousands of advanced rockets. Yeah, but we got the rooster hit the flares. We got all the flares, though.

It's not the planes. Do we have a rocket force? Do we have a rocket force or no? We do not have an official rocket force. What the fuck? Get Elon on that. Can we not get Elon on the rocket force? What Elon could do is given his low Earth orbit

satellite infrastructure that he has with Starlink, he could do something called orbital bombardment. Otherwise referred to as rods from God. And the idea was you'd be able to just with tiny tungsten rods target anyone on the face of the rods from God. And the idea was you'd be able to just with tiny tungsten rods target anyone on the face of the earth from satellites.

This is actually a serious idea that was talked about in the late 60s. I don't think Elon wants to weaponize Starlink, but hey, the Chinese would do it. Drone wars are the wars that we're in right now and the show of force is always going to happen, I guess they're saying. Any military person I've ever talked to said, if you want to win

a war or something, you need boots on the ground. Do you think that is still true? And do you think we're inevitably going to be in a war again? World War III trends every weekend. A lot. Every weekend, World War III is trending. So one, I think what's going on in Ukraine proves that you still need boots on the ground.

And there's no substitute for what's called esprit de corps, which is like will to fight? The Russians don't have it. The Ukrainians do have it. They're fighting for something. I mean, I think a version of that's true on the football field, I would imagine, right? But you're also seeing the actual use of AI in warfare with things called loitering munitions and other AI capabilities that we're experimenting with right now in Ukraine. So I think AI is going to play a bigger role in future warfare, but it's not going to eliminate the fundamentally

human nature of warfare. War is a contest of will. It's a fundamentally human endeavor. Technology can change the character of it, but it can't change the fundamental nature of the war. As for World War III, I think it's within our power to prevent it. I mean, that's why I was here in Indiana giving a speech about how to prevent World War III. Like that! Because I don't really pay attention to what you guys got going on over there, I think it's within our power to prevent it. I mean, that's why I was here in Indiana giving a speech about how to prevent World War III.

Like that. Because I don't really pay attention to what you guys got going on. I know there's shit popping off. Precocine and Wagner Group, that whole thing. And then I see World War III trending. I'm like, let me click on it, I guess. Oh, this one looks real. Yeah, this isn't good.

Looks like we're going to war. Fuck. All right, I'm going to get off the internet for today. And I'm going to go hang out with my baby and my wife, hopefully, and keep it moving. You guys will handle it. Congrats on that, by the way. Thank you.

I appreciate that. You too. I know you've got a couple of kids. I've got a couple of young daughters. It's the best, man. But you're saying we're probably not. That's good. That's good to hear.

It depends on what we do. I think this is the decisive decade. So my whole theory of the world when it comes to China is that China, which is a totalitarian dictatorship where one guy's in charge of everything, they're trying to succeed where the Soviets failed. I think they are going to get more aggressive this decade because they have a lot of problems in the next decade. In the 2030s, they have a huge demographic issue. Too many old people, not enough young people.

One-child policy was a total disaster. So they got a demographic buzzsaw they got to deal with. They got a bunch of economic problems. So if Xi Jinping wants to achieve his legacy, cement his legacy as a paramount leader in the system on par with Mao, he needs to – What? I was just – What happened? Please go on. Please.

He needs to make a move. How are we supposed to take you seriously? Wearing that shirt. That's a problem. Do I have to wear suits all the time? Can I not wear a t-shirt? I just want to be reliable. This is me trying to be like, you know.

So we're trying to shake their hands, though, and they're taking the fifth-gen fighter pilots. What's more worrying is that we're, like, so engagement with China as a strategy failed for two decades, right? We all made the same bet on China. We're going to engage with them economically. It's going to change their behavior. They're going to become what's called a responsible stakeholder in the international system.

So what happened is they took access to the global economy, and they did certain things like steal our intellectual property. Eviscerate manufacturing jobs, particularly in the industrial Midwest. Indiana was just a manufacturing powerhouse. Great state, by the way. Great state. I love it. The airport's awesome. There's only a few flights in and out, but it's beautiful. It's clean. It's efficient. Not a lot of flights, not a lot of people. It is very clean. It is awesome. That's why you bring people to you, Pat. Nobody's coming, but we are appreciative that you stopped by this entire thing. I think they also, if I do recall,

weren't they doing something with the values they were changing? Our money comes and goes. It's value internationally. Didn't they do something that completely undercut all of our money? Well, it's two claims. One, that they manipulate their currency. And then two, they're trying to de-dollarize the global economy. So the dollar is the world's reserve currency.

This gives us a lot of advantages. We wouldn't be able to sanction countries where not for the fact that the dollar is dominant. They're trying to basically reduce the role of the dollar in international transactions, which would give them a lot of influence and would reduce our influence. So a lot of what they're doing in Latin America. Because what they're saying is, why does that country get to be – And they're trying to do central bank digital currency, where basically a digital

yuan would be another mechanism of the party controlling everything. So you couldn't do any financial transaction without the CCP knowing about it or being able to use it. Ty is a question for you. Going back to the alien stuff, when we talk about how we've seen

500 different things in the last however many weeks or whatever, and as it becomes more common and common, I know you then a video comes out, and it's like some fucking third grader drew the aliens, and we see them. It's like a bad CGI in someone's backyard. Do you think that's a detriment with how many more are coming out, and it's very easy to kind of just diminish all of this? It's like, hey, 90% of this stuff is bullshit, and then, yeah, there still might be a few things that we need to look into, but does that kind of change or

impact uh like how quickly we're going to get answers about this i definitely think it makes it harder i mean but i think that's just the price you pay in order to cast a wide net so people come out of the woodwork and report and you may get one legit report for every a thousand but that's what that's what you have to do that's why we gave we not only consolidated everything under this new one-stop shop in Arrow, we gave it more authority and we made it a direct report to the Deputy Secretary of Defense, the Deputy Director of National Intelligence.

So it has the ability to sift through all this stuff and identify what's legit and what isn't. We also sort of told them work with the private sector to the extent possible, because there's a lot of people with a lot of resources in the private sector that are interested in this topic who want to get to the bottom of it oh by the way you can actually use ai in this case to sift through some of the information to determine what's legit what isn't

what's a deep fake so i mean ai it's another double-edged sword you could have some some ai generated image or video that's that spreads misinformation ai drake right now yeah i mean ai biden obama and trump are playing call of duty yesterday yeah ai is a real powerful weapon but that spreads misinformation. AI Drake right now. I mean, AI Biden, Obama, and Trump were playing Call of Duty yesterday. Yeah, AI's a real powerful weapon, but AI's choosing what to tell you and what not to tell you. Right.

You know, that's a... Then you're starting to put the power in something you don't even understand. That's a crazy world you live in, but we appreciate it, too. And not us. Yeah. Good luck over there.

We hope you figure it all out, man, honestly. We don't need to... From what you've heard yeah and obviously you can't tell us anything yeah you could i could you could and then i would get uh i probably go to jail you have that guy on your shirt coming after you there will come a point you in jail no we can declassify so we had we passed a law to so to force the administration to declassify all the intelligence related to the origins of COVID. So that just tells you how the lengths to which you have to go to declassify information.

Wow. We know what that was. Don't we? Well, they came back a week ago, and the report was, I mean, it had no useful information at all. It was all redacted. We already know. Yeah. It came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

What? I thought it was Batsub. No. Wait, what institute? Yeah. What was it called, you said? Wuhan Institute of Virology. Of what?

In China. Of what, though? Of virology. What's that? It's the study of viruses. What? No, that's bullshit. There was one in there? That wouldn't make sense. I feel like I heard this on a late night show one time. What? No, that's bullshit. There was one in there?

That wouldn't make sense. I feel like I heard this on a late night show one time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Jon Stewart said this. This was there the whole time? That's obviously anti-Asian racism. Well, you've said a lot of things. I mean, with what you're saying.

Chai comms. Chai comms. I mean, you're doing that. So has that been just admitted now that that is what it is? Well, the administration, what they came back with, didn't have anything useful in it. I think we keep getting all these reports. The Wall Street Journal had a report two weeks ago that basically said you had researchers there that were getting sick prior to the pandemic. So all the circumstantial evidence, as we've known from the start, is pointing at the Wuhan Institute.

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You're a congressman. You're a Marine guy. Let's bump you up. You could potentially just run for president. You automatically win. Well, I was thinking like – Flop one out. In terms of next steps, we need to do the bill where we make it illegal to spend

any money on some sort of reverse engineering program. I need to go to Area 51. It has taken me a year to get approval to go to Area 51, so that's next on my list. You got approval, though? I have approval to go to Area 51. Holy shit. Is that where they are, though? Is that too public?

I don't know. I thought they were at Right Pat, but I didn't see them at Right Pat. Oh, oh, oh. I got a buddy that drives the perimeter of Area 51 like every couple months. He's a bit out there. He's been arrested a few times. But let me know. He can hook you up. Carpenter?

He actually has that type of style of run. What was that style of run they were going to do? Naruto. Naruto running style into Area 51. That was AJ's buddy that was kind of putting that whole thing together. So you go out to Area 51? Area 51. But we need to inject it into the presidential race.

I mean, we're deep in the throes of a presidential race. So we need this to be on the radar of all the presidential race. This is all a distraction there for something else or what? To A.J.'s point? I mean, listen, I think you can do more than one thing in Congress. My main effort is, again, how we beat the CHICOMs, how we beat the CCP, how we prevent war in the near term and win the new Cold War over the long term. But after this hearing and after coming on your show, I want to get to the bottom of this issue.

And I know it's frustrating. I know you want me to come here and say we figured it out. Yeah. It's up to the future. That'd be cool. You guys need to understand how far we've come, though, since last we came on your show. In terms of the aliens bill, in terms of what's being talked about publicly. This has been a sea change in the conversation. So you guys also have a massive freaking platform.

It's everywhere I go after that one appearance, people don't come up to me and say, hey, good bill that you passed on China or this or that. It's all, hey, I loved you talking about aliens on Pat McAfee's show. Oh, sick. Well, happy people do it. Those people aren't wearing suits though, right?

They're asking. This is last week at the United Lounge in O'Hare. A guy who's a West Virginia alum came up and said, love you on Pat McAfee. This morning at the defense conference, I'm five minutes away from giving a speech that I worked really hard on and I thought people were going to pay attention to. And some guy came up to me and he whispered in my ear,

he's like, hey, I loved when you were on Pat McAfee, man. Oh, that's awesome. My entire public career is solely going to be reduced to my appearance on Pat McAfee. Hey, I'll tell you what. You flop an alien out there. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever.

I understand you gave a great speech. Nobody's going to remember a word you said. You popped that thing out there. How was the speech? How long did you talk for? Like 20 minutes. Oh, not bad. You're not reading, right?

You memorized? I memorized part of it. I mean, I had it written out in front of me. What did we do? Did we look down? Are we talking up here? Do we have a teleprompter? No teleprompter.

No teleprompter. So you're just looking down notes, reminding yourself of the thing? Yeah. Walking, pacing, staying in position? I like to do speeches where I pace back and forth. This is when I was at a podium, though. Oh, my God. It sounded like you hated it.

I'm happy I said what's up, though. You should partner with Jack Carr, you know, and you guys can write a non-fiction book with all of the non-factual details that are actually factual details follow up have you talked to jack card because he says he rounds up a lot of people that have a lot of information before he does his books in the government i have not but jack car so he did the uh terminalist you see i might have bought a bunch of axes from Jack Carter. Winkler axes? I bought Winkler axes for everybody on the Select Committee on China.

That had the motto of the committee on it. Strength and honor? Freedom is the victor. That one's awesome too, though. Yeah, sign that one off. He said decisive decade. You had some bars today. I forget what else you said.

Feature, not the bug. Oh, yeah. Whenever he was talking about the overall thing. Are you going to run for president or what? Yeah, what's the deal? Is that the goal?

What's the platform? Okay, so step one, complete aliens and COVID transparency. You say you don't pay attention to politics, but there's got to be issues that you care about.

I like to smoke dope everywhere I go. I like to be a normal guy. If you could just be a normal guy. I like to be a normal guy. Marijuana legalization. Marijuana legalization. Marijuana legalization.

I mean, let's go ahead and get that. I don't want to pay taxes anymore. I'm done with taxes. Just be normal. That'd be cool. Normal, aliens, no taxes. I'm sick of the seatbelt rule too. Yeah, thank you. I'm sick of the seatbelt rule.

I know it saved a lot of people's lives, but I don't need an extra reason to get pulled over because I want my shoulders to breathe. I'm sick of the seatbelt rule. I know it saved a lot of people's lives, but I don't need an extra reason to get pulled over because I want my shoulders to breathe. I can hop on my motorcycle. I don't even got to wear a helmet. So then I hop in a car, it's like, that guy can eyeball if I got my seatbelt on. And then now I got a 15, 20 minute conversation with the old officer.

Get it out. I think you can win some people over with that. Potholes too. Potholes? Ban those. Old people driving. Get them out They have to retest Yes Retest Mortgage rates are real high

65 What do we do I mean healthcare is the biggest issue We're spending all our money People are getting Yeah the NFL only gives them For five years after we retire You gotta have a solution

To like the obesity This show has some good ideas On health care I really don't It's just Don't eat every fucking thing In front of you I guess I'm

This guy eats candy and hearties You're talking to the wrong guy I work out every day I really don't. It's just don't eat every fucking thing in front of you. I guess I'm kind of. Well, you do that. Yeah. This guy eats candy and Hardee's. You're talking to the wrong guy. All day. I work out every day. Wow. Not every day.

He took a couple days off last week. He didn't get fat. We didn't shop. We subsidized sugar. That's what. How about a Zempik? How about a Zempik? What about a Zempik?

Semi-gluton. Have you guys looked into that? So what happens when you get off it, though? Don't get off it. Just don't get off it. It's like getting off of any diet. You get fat again. Yeah, exactly.

So it's like a Band-Aid you get fat again yeah exactly so yeah so you're like a uh a band-aid on a sucking chest wound at that point if you've exhausted everything else right if you've done if you work out if you're there's people that aren't gonna do that though yeah okay well take a shot the or i think there's a pill i think there's a bill coming that feels like the right answer yeah but then you got people just taking more pills than less pills, which is an overall issue. Jesus. Yeah. Good luck with that one.

Figure it out. Why are you asking us? I'm fucking sick of it. I'm tired of you asking us for stuff. We're asking you for stuff. Okay. Figure it out. We're tired of people being fat.

Yep. Yep. We would like people to have more opportunity. Tired of seatbelts. Yep. Smoke more weed. Bad drivers. Old drivers.

Old drivers. Retested. Yep. Yeah. If you could talk, that'd be great. Got it. I'll bring back the quesarito. That's a good idea. Guitar Hero? Yeah, that too.

Guitar Hero. We're talking about airports and healthcare. What is it like putting pull-up bars in front of every gate in every airport? Just encourage people to do pull-ups. Think about it. Especially with the MRF, with how popular the MRF is getting,

where you've got to be able to do, what, 100 pull-ups or something like that? Yeah, and then if you can't do a pull-up, you've got to go ride the plane in baggage. Yeah, the number of pull-ups you do dictates whether you're first class or coach. That's great. Your ticket is how— It's a meritocracy, not just— You're not going to be able to raise a lot of money, I don't think,

because a lot of people sit in first class probably doing a lot of the donations. I don't know if they're going to get in that, but I'm fucking with it. If I can sit... Faster planes. Faster planes. What about that one?

Concorde. Faster planes. Faster planes. Supersonic planes. By the way, it's illegal to fly that fast across certain parts of America. There's actually some cool defense companies coming out, Boom, Supersonic, and others,

which are building super-fast airplanes. Airplane speed has not increased in the last two decades. It's crazy. That's dumb regulation. What's the one you were talking about that's supposed to go from where? I think you said. Concorde. New York to London in like four hours or something like that.

Two hours. But the most important issue is we've got to beat the chatcoms. That's number one. That's your platform. That's the's number one. That's your platform. That's the unifying issue. That's your legacy. I'm in. We need to rebuild the military.

We need to stop funding our own destruction by people investing in Chinese AI companies. And we need to rediscover the fact that we're the good guys, right? Our values are better. America is the leader of the free world. Beat the Chai Coms. That's the unifying message. Yes. Hell yeah.

Take them down. We appreciate you. That's the unifying man. Yes. Hell yeah. Take them down. We appreciate you. You probably stayed way too long. We asked you the dumbest questions you've heard in a long time, but we genuinely appreciate it. Have a little Wisconsin beer, too. My gift to you guys is smuggled it across state lines. What is it?

Spotted cow. Only sold in Wisconsin. Yeah, it's delicious. Oh, that's like your guys' Yingling in Wisconsin? Yeah. Well, Yingling is also our Yingling. Well, now it is because Yingling inevitably said, all right, fuck it.

We'll sell it to the whole world, I guess, and make billions of dollars. Spotted Cow is the one that people have to drive to get. Yeah, at the airport. So, yeah, bought it at the Green Bay Airport. Did you drink beer, have a good time, wear T-shirts? It's been a real honor wearing T-shirts. Yeah.

Talking about aliens. It's been the best. It's been an honor of my life. Hell yeah. Can't wait for you to hear about it in more very crucial times of your life. I'm sure I will hear a lot about what I've said in the last 30 minutes. So, yeah. Hell yeah.

I hope. Happy we're a part of it. I want to let you know, I don't know if you've said anything in your guys' world that is like news-breaking or anything like that, but I've been a part of that world a couple different times with the quarterback of the team that used to enjoy. Yeah. Some of those politician websites say rude things.

Man, oh, man. They cooked me. I mean, pretty good. For what? Just not being jocked. Not that jocked. I was said that not to be jocked in like four different languages whenever Aaron was like, I ain't getting the vaccine.

And then, boom, we're on every single news in the entire world pretty much. SNL. Four different languages whenever Aaron was like, I ain't getting the vaccine. And then boom, we're on every single news in the entire world pretty much. SNL. Four different languages were calling me not jocked. I mean, it was a tough body shame situation. So if I need to go down

the road again with you, I'll be honored. Hey, hey, listen. I need you on that wall, Pat. I need you standing with me in defense of America against both the aliens and the godless communists that are trying to destroy us.

Amen. I get that you don't like politics, Pat, but politics infuses everything. You're in it, whether you like it or not. That's what everybody's saying to me about going to ESPN. By the way, I mean, this is what selling out to ESPN looks like. I mean, it looks great in here. This is amazing. Thank you.

We got an autographed rifle over there from Jack Carr, strength and honor. Right over there, actually. Luckily, Sun Tzu passed away recently, so we don't have to worry about that. Yeah, the art of war is crazy. You know, he died. Yeah. No longer with us. Sun Tzu.

Only a gift from the Chinese. No longer. Whoa. Heart of war, Sun Tzu. Died. Yeah. Was it COVID? Did COVID kill him?

Good news. COVID not surviving. He was heading up that lab. I mean, who knows? What was it? How many thousands BC? Yeah, I think like 2,500 BC. Maybe COVID.

Maybe COVID's like cicadas. Remember COVID-1? The bat called in, talked about his great-great-great-grandpoppy, COVID-1. Do you remember? We were live during that whole thing. Now that you're saying what you're saying about the viral lab, the virus lab. We were live during the whole thing. We said one time.

And I potentially... They almost took us off YouTube. Yeah, almost ripped us right down. At that time, today today with everything you said there's a chance we get kicked off of youtube before tomorrow that's an interesting interesting part of this that's the deepest i get in the politics is like when people are telling me that i'm gonna get kicked off a platform for something that's being said i'm like kicked off a platform what does that even mean yeah and then lo and behold people do get like yeah it like comes out people do get kind of squat that's a scary thing why don like, kicked off a platform. What does that even mean? And then, lo and behold, people do get like, it comes out, people do get kind of squashed.

That's a scary thing. Why don't you guys figure that out, too? That'd be a great platform, actually, with you freeing the platforms, potentially. It was the promise of Elon Musk on Twitter, right? What do you think of that? What do you think of Elon's Twitter? I mean, I think it's better, for sure. I'm not sure, as a business, it's making money right now.

It's interesting. I'm not on social media at all's making money right now. It was interesting. I'm not on social media at all. Smart. It's not even on my phone. My staff does an official account. It's super boring. But I swear to God, the last time, when I came on here before, and I may or may not have made some comments about a prominent wrestler

who may or may not have apologized to the Chinese Communist Party in Mandarin for saying something, He shall remain nameless. Okay. Thank you for his name remaining nameless. Yeah. My comms director sent me a picture, a screenshot that said, John Cena is now following you on Twitter. Jesus.

And I was like, oh, shit, this guy is going to come kick my ass. That's right. And that would be an L to the chai columns. In your eyes, right? Yeah. In your eyes. Can't have that, bro. That's your life.

Jeez Louise. I'm looking around corners. Sorry. Yeah, bingo. He's going to be pumped. He'll be pumped after today. All right. I appreciate you for joining us.

I'm going to digest everything you said, and I'm going to change the way I look at the world. That's right. And I'm going to feel good about no World War III, even though it's going to trend every single weekend. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Congressman Mike Gallagher.

All right, that's it for today, AJ. Hope you take it all in. Thanks for the Epstein Island conversation. Happy we got to the bottom of that. Who knows who bought it? He said maybe the Chai Colts. Yeah, Chai Colts. All the boys, great work today.

Pac-Man, great work. Congressman, thank you. Ian Rappaport, jet pass and stop by. Bill's taking great photos. This has been a hell of a Tuesday. Congrats, thank you. Ian Rappaport, jet pass and stop by. Bill's taking great photos. This has been a hell of a Tuesday. Congrats to LSU. We're back tomorrow with some more bullshit. You all are the best people on earth for allowing us to do this for a living.

Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change their life. Goodbye.