The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 935 - AQ Shipley, John Buccigross, Tom Segura, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 28, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about tonight’s NHL Draft, Shohei Ohtani’s historic night, the NFLPA picking a new executive director, and everything else happening around the world of sports. Joining the progrum to chat about the NFLPA’s new executive director and the process used to select him, his thoughts on Matthew Stafford who seemingly had the same injury that forced AQ to retire, his thoughts on Dalvin Cook and the RB market as a whole, and more (17:23-1:01:27). Next, ESPN legend, hockey aficionado, SportsCenter anchor, John Buccigross joins the show live from Nashville to chat about tonight’s NHL Draft, Connor Bedard being the next one, some prospects to watch, and more (1:08:50-1:23:07). Later, standup comedian, host of Your Mom’s House, one of the funniest human being’s on the planet, Tom Segura joins the show to chat about his new standup special “Sledgehammer,” on Netflix July 4th, his thoughts on the state of comedy, how Covid helped make his special tighter, his thoughts on Mark Zuckerberg vs. Elon Musk, aliens, his relationship with The Undertaker, and more (1:53:29-2:29:50). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. The AQI is high, and so are the VODs. On this Wednesday, June 28, 2023, this sports program starts now. Sports! Are happening. One of them, to be exact, that would be baseball. And we're following along diligently as we learn to love this sport that takes too long, doesn't have enough action. But boy, there are some moments that are fantastic, like what we were able to witness last night,

which we'll hear about in mere moments. Pac Show today, okay? Because the NHL draft is tonight. That's right. And allegedly, the guy going number one overall, Connor Bedard, he is supposed to be the next one. This guy's supposed to be the next one. Now, people get drafted number one overall every single year in every single

sport, obviously. That has a draft. That is how this thing goes. Now, we learned yesterday that the baseball draft isn't necessarily like a draft the best player before you draft other players type thing, which certainly was confusing to us all, which leaves us even more so to baseball being, you know,

just so much. All the time. But Conor Bedard, this guy's being talked about as a generational talent. We're talking, obviously, McDavid won his fourth ever. Fifth, I think. Fifth, fourth straight. Hart Trophy. Yeah, Bobby Hart Trophy.

Whatever it is called, he is the guy, but nobody knows because he's up in Canada in the middle of nowhere, obviously, and he is fun to watch. Sidney Crosby obviously came in 2005. He is phenomenal. Will go down in the pantheon of hockey players of all time if he could have stayed healthy and everything like that. And there's been other greats. But they're talking about this Bedard guy about potentially going into that Mount Rushmore conversation when it's all done.

And he's going to Chicago. Yeah. Hell yeah. Obviously, the Blackhawks organization has done some stuff. Stuff. Michigan State. Okay. We figured it out.

Had done some very serious stuff. We kicked them out. Okay. But they have a – Basically, they kicked all of them out. After a while. And now they have like a clean start for a very historic franchise. And now they got the next one.

I think this guy is going to be shown a lot with this ESPN, TNT thing. So let's learn about it from Bucciagross. Bucciamania coming on in about 18 minutes or 16 minutes or so. AQ Shipley will join us in a second hour to talk a little football.

What's he up to? What's going on? What are his thoughts? And then Tom Segura who has a new special coming out on july 4th called sledgehammer and allegedly apparently there's a chance that our voices are in a little bit of the opening there sledgehammer okay if that's the case we made it so can't wait to chat with all three of these fine gentlemen. The toxic table is here. That's at Ty Schmidt, who's in a fantastic mood today. Really? And at Boston Connor and at Boston Connor's mullet.

Great to see you boys. One half of the hammer. Cowboys tone digs is here. You look great. Look at you with the green. You're looking good. One of my favorite colors. You know, it goes well with the Dan hat earth tones.

That's who I am now. Yeah, I think so. It seems to be a smaller size than the stuff you normally wear. They're shrinking a little bit. No, I'm saying you're shrinking a little bit. No, I know. I said it wrong. All right, you look good.

You look good. You didn't even know you looked good. I don't know what you're doing, if it's dieting or working out or what you're up to, but you're crushing it. Yeah, a little bit of diet. Definitely a little bit of diet. Performance enhancing drugs. I realized when the ESPN deal got

signed, you can't have all those people's eyes on TVs and say, who's that fat fucking guy? I thought about that as well. And I will say that I've been on TV before and I've thought that when I'm going to get on TV and then I get a little bit too comfortable and I'm the fat fuck on TV. So I don't know how

long we will maintain this thought. We'll try. But I do like that we are seemingly becoming a much more fit office. Trying to. And I like that. This ESPN deal obviously has ruined the show completely and everything else.

That is what some people were thinking. But one thing it has, I think it's made us much better versions of ourselves. Yeah, you get to, I mean, you come in here, the Hawk House is absolutely packed. You know, there's not as many orders coming in from DoorDash. I mean, Nick is still just... Nick had pizza, some lasagna,

and pasta. Tony had a breadstick. I don't want to hear about this diet he's on. Breadstick. You ate 15 of them. Nick, what you're doing... They were delicious. Nick, it looks like you're trying to eat yourself to death every single day, And somehow. Maybe I am.

What? Everything's okay, dude. I eat because I'm unhappy. I'm unhappy because I eat. This guy's married. This guy's married. You got a lot to live for. She's great.

She's the best. She is. But also like. But her husband's. Let's not try to die every single morning whenever we're sitting here at work. Please. Whole glass of whole milk. Big ass. We're sitting here at work, whole glass of whole milk, chugging it down with your pizza and your pasta.

Muffin. And your, oh, don't even talk about the donuts added in there as well. Nick, is everything okay? Just know you can talk to us, Nick. Yeah, that's right. We're here for you, Nick. You can talk to us, Nick. Everything's okay.

I just want to clarify, I'm not one of those sickos who would drink the milk with the pizza and the pasta. The milk comes earlier in the day or later. A nice treat before bed. Or both. The pasta and the pizza happen in the middle of the day. The milk comes earlier in the day or later. A nice treat before bed. Or both. The pasta and the pizza happen in the middle of the day. What are you drinking with that? Today, ice-cold Arnie Palmy alert.

Ooh, nice. This guy lives, man. This guy lives. He has a body, though. He's always going to look slender. He will get a gut. I mean, he will get a gut under there. Oh, yeah.

But the way he's built, it's kind of hidden, you know, with the way he dressed. So he's living a fine life. We can't all do that. The man who's living the finest life, guy who eats Nerd Ropes and Hardee's and everything. Red Bull. And still thinks at the age of 39 he can run in the 4-4s. Yes.

Wild. 14-year NFL legend, Adam Pacman Jones. Yeah! Pac, a lot of conversation about you running this sub 4.5 or not on the Internet. Have you seen the chirping that's been going on? Yes. And what is your belief on this 40 that you're running tomorrow? Laser time.

Okay. $450 laser that was able to get here in time. Nice. So I don't know if that's a good laser or not a good laser. There will also be a hand time just to see if the laser is in the ballpark because that seems to be a pretty quick turnaround, not as expensive as I thought it would potentially be, but it will be a laser time. Are you confident

or what do you feel? Confident, a little sore today. What's that? Are you training? I'm saying I'm going to be prepared if I'm going to say I'm going to do something. Might as well be prepared. What's today look like? Are we carb loading? Today, we're going to stretch it out, jog a little bit

and see how it goes tomorrow. Yesterday, I ran 740s up under five seconds, not killing myself. So we'll see. Okay. So that was just like conditioning? Yeah, like back to back to back. How'd you feel? You felt pretty good while you were running?

Felt pretty good. First one, felt like the air was moving quick? About the second one, second one, third one, I started feeling like myself. Are they wind-aided 40s? I'm sorry, smoke-aided 40s? Is the AQI behind you? You running 40s causing this smoke? That's something to think about.

Good luck tomorrow. We're proud of you, whatever you run, but also if at 39 you run sub 4.5, that'll be talked about. That'll be something that'll be talked about, so I hope you pull it off.5, that'll be talked about. Yeah. That'll be absurd. That'll be something that'll be talked about. So I hope you pull it off. I believe you will be under 4.5.

There are others that doubt it. No way. That's one of them. 4.7. That's one of them. Not going to happen. Rob Ninkovich. Rob Ninkovich, Super Bowl champion, obviously, for the New England Patriots.

He goes, on a friendly hand time, sure. Laser, no chance. Nink thinks you got no friendly hand time. Sure. Laser. No chance. Nink thinks you got no shot at this. That's crazy. What's that all about? What's that all about? Has he seen you run lately or not? I haven't seen me run. They haven't seen my body. I can't believe this. Well, I can't believe this asshole is going against me.

We'll see. I'm very confident in myself that I can run sub four or five. All right, well, you're running on cement tomorrow. If it's weather tomorrow or this AQI remains, we will push it another week so you get another week to train, which could be good.

How many does he get? Because he said on that second one is when he really... Yeah, but he was just catching a stride. Had him ready for a long time. Okay, so just one. Yeah, it'll be one, right? One. Yeah, I he was just catching stride. Had him ready for a long time. Okay, so just one. Yeah, it'll be one. Right? One. Yeah, I'm going to warm up first. Yeah, but when I go, I only

run one time. The first time is going to be the best time. Doing the skips. Alright, good luck out there. We're pulling for you. Speaking of the AQI, what the fuck, bro? It's crazy. It's terrible. Hey, listen, we're getting hotboxed by Canada. We are. We thought this was kind of done it came through first time in forever i think i've been around i i guess i i don't know if i'm the oldest human but i've never seen anything like this so it comes

and how's that work how does something just start happening i know we're with wind and pressure and smoke and seemingly they've had fires up there before. I guess this is the biggest that they've ever had. It has to be. And then the weather is also providing something that's keeping smoke, which I thought hot air rose. Me too. I thought hot air would rise, but something's pushing it down, I guess. Particles in the smoke, I believe, are keeping it down.

There might be some shit in the game. So, I mean, it could be. We're right behind Dubai, which, figure it out, Dubai. Jeez Louise. We can barely see about 500 yards in front of us. Dubai, I don't know how you're able to see all the Rolls Royces rolling around. If they got 359. On every single news station here in Indy, they've been doing like dangerous,

moderately dangerous, super dangerous, dead dangerous, this whole thing. We're way up there right now. And I know the left coast is saying, we've got to deal with this every single year. We've got smog and everything like that. I don't think it's good for you guys. I don't think it's good what's going on here. We hope everybody's okay in Canada. Obviously, big fires.

We are far from it. So, good luck. T's and P's. What a nightmare of a situation to kind of keep under control and everything like that. But this smoke coming in, seemingly getting more worse. Wild. And you're from this ain't this smoke coming in seemingly getting more more worse wild and you're from iowa does this happen normally in the midwest no not not that i can remember i mean you know you obviously have people who do like uh burn brush and stuff like that but nothing where it's like like it is i mean like you said like last week when we had it

and then it went away it was like okay it's gone it's done we don't have to worry about this anymore last night when we left work it was like holy shit i mean getting to the point where you know like i had to put sunglasses on just because it it was making me sleepy almost yes how dreary it was well you also were getting boozed up with a little bit but that didn't have as much to do with it it was like i don't know i don't know when it's going to go away but yeah that is very startling when you look at it. And Dubai is the only place with, you know, worse air quality than us right now.

Yeah, it's in Dubai. All that money you spent to build a country in the middle of nowhere, I want to get some fans here. Yeah, what are we doing? The crazy part is about when I'm driving from Cincinnati, it's clear and then like time I hit probably like where the casino is, that's when you can see it starts it's crazy it's way worse than it was too oh yeah driving back into the city and seeing the

skyscrapers in there it was completely is it gonna go over to new york i don't know because remember the last time it was two days after when we had it bad the first time two days later it was the wind in which the weather yeah yeah the wind just picked it up for the first the first time ever, this is a new wind pattern that just comes out of nowhere? Yeah, I saw a lot of people saying Mother Nature was answering Trudeau for what he did, and that's why he's starting everything in Canada. That's just what I saw. And when it's believable. That was a report on the internet?

Yeah. Mother Nature said she spoke? It was from Mother Nature's Twitter account. Sources close to Mother Nature say say because Trudeau... That father time and her had dinner. And over a nice cabernet, they decided enough with this.

You see what Trudeau was for Halloween? We're not letting that fly anymore. Old man winner. Smoke him out. All right. Let's know. Just figure that out let's see if that's just got a heads up that Bucci thought it was a different hour

than it is now Bucci what's the deal yeah text actually text AQ actually let's do that I mean I don't know how that happens though but I'm excited to see what life Bucci's living that whole thing takes place. All right, so we'll have AQ on here in a bit, I guess.

Before we get to AQ and before we move on any further, the NFL community lost a guy who I got a chance to hang out with a couple different times and have some beer with and was incredibly kind. And I think everybody that was posting about him last night and obviously whenever somebody passes away, that is kind of a perspective-putting moment for everybody where you start examining your life, your thoughts, your grudges, your everything. And then obviously you think back to the time that you had with the person that passed away. I think that happens to public

figures. I think it happens to friends. I think it happens to family, especially when somebody's 35 years old and they pass. So getting a chance to kind of hear everything that was said about Ryan Mallett yesterday from everybody, like echoed the same exact sentiment that I had. I was a fan of his. He was the number one recruit coming out of high school, goes to Michigan. Rich Rodriguez goes up to Michigan.

He says, I don't think he's for me, dog. Pat White was doing what he was doing with Steve Slayton. So he goes to Arkansas, has to sit a year, because back then if players transferred, they had to sit a year. Coaches transferred, they can coach immediately. Now, I'm not saying there was any hypocritical anything going on at all, and the NCAA did that.

But he sat out a year. He's an Arkansas legend from there. And I got a chance to meet him. Fucking cool, cool, cool cool cool dude like incredibly kind he's so fucking tall and we were in Arkansas so everybody knew who he was was nice to everybody dapped up everybody and I believe he and John Daly might have even sang a song together that particular evening so it was cool to kind of meet him and know him it was cool to see the reaction that he drew from everybody that he had met in his life and uh it was obviously a moment where we all thought to ourselves a dude who was

in the nfl for seven years was in incredible shape seemingly good guy had good times died at the age of 35 drowning in a riptide. And I assume that nobody thought whenever they went to the beach yesterday and got in the ocean that they were going to come back with one less person. So remember that whenever you wake up, opens our eyes a bit to the, you know, the petty bullshit or the negative thoughts about something or the negative mood about having to do something. It's like you get to do something. Let's remember that. And let's try to enjoy every fucking day. And not every day is great.

I know that there's going to be times where life kicks you right in the balls. And I know there's going to be decisions that are completely out of your control that are going to halt you and slow you down and affect your life. But let's remember, if you can't control it, who gives a fuck? Let's keep it moving. So Ryan Mallett, rest in peace, buddy.

Rest easy. Seemingly done good with your life, with everybody that you met. And also, thank you for reminding us, like, this could all be gone at any time. And it's a shame, but also it's an eye-opening experience. We move on. The NFL now has

also made, the NFLPA has made a decision. There is a brand new NFLPA executive director. Now, if you do recall, the NFLPA and Demoree Smith announced that they were going to have a new executive director. Now, if you do recall, the NFLPA and Demoree Smith announced that they were going to have a new executive director. And seemingly, every human that we have talked to, and I feel like we're pretty dialed in with the NFL,

nobody had a clue who was being interviewed to replace, how this all came about, and when it was going to happen. Boom, it's happening today. Board of Player Representatives is pleased to announce that we've elected Lloyd Howell as the newest executive director of the NFLPA. So, obviously, we all know who Lloyd Howell is. Of course. Lloyd Howell is a fucking dog.

Incredible negotiator. I assume every player that knew that this was going to be the guy, I assume that there was no fuckery behind the scenes on how Demoree Smith steps down at a time where he didn't have to be another term limit and somebody else kind of just comes in in a week that nobody else really hears about. I'm sure there was no fuckery.

I'm sure there was none of that at all, especially whenever you're talking about a union and decisions having to be made for everybody, but then really there's only a couple people. So I'm sure it'll be great. Good luck, Lloyd. If I were you, I would just immediately try to figure out how to get every X player insurance. Should be an easy deal to negotiate with any of the insurance companies that work with the NFL currently. That should have been something that should have been handled a long time ago, seemingly. But previous NFL people in charge actually said, we got to take care of ours. that should have been something that should have been handled a long time ago seemingly but previous

nflpa people in charge actually said we got to take care of ours in a meeting whenever some player asked about retired players insurance forever and there was a couple people that are like yeah yeah and then all the vets were like motherfucker we're all going to be retired players you're probably still going to be here though so there's a little bit of that where I don't really trust decisions that are being made from the previous NFLPA situation. Hopefully Lloyd Howell will be different and not just a guy that they pulled from their own and just going to do the same exact thing.

Shell game, players are stupid. It's middle of summer. Let's get this vote over with. Yeah. Let's hope that's the case and the NFLPA didn't fuck this one up. Joining us now is a guy I'm sure has some thoughts. He was in the NFL a long time. Super Boach, Hompian player and coach.

This guy's almost Jackie Moon. Doesn't have enough money to own a team, but he would perform at halftime if he had to. Currently training to fight Ryan Bader. Oh, I'm sorry. Right alongside Ryan Bader. NFL center trainer, podcaster. Thank you, Shabani. Yay! Oh, studcaster. Thank you, Shepard. Yay!

Oh, studious. Are you high? Is that why you have glasses on? You doing me? No, I'm just trying to see. I can't see shit anymore. I got to wear readers. Oh, no.

How old are you, dude? Huge. Dude, it's bad. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. I don't know how I got. As soon as I stopped playing football, I got old real quick. I don't know what happened. Yeah, yeah. i got as soon as i stopped playing football i got old real quick i don't know what happened yeah yeah i mean i'm looking at that happened well that's like you know your guy joe paterno he retired he pooped his pants he died

exactly uh you know we actually talked about him we actually one year later because nick saban told one of these recruits i ain't done coaching until I'm croaked over. So, like, not a bad bar. So maybe your life has just been so committed to football, your entire being was football, that when you retired, your body just kind of went into aftershock and didn't know what to do with itself. It's like, oh, we're gray, fat, and blind.

Just like that. You know what I mean? It's fun. What happened? I think that's what happened. Is that why you're training with Bader? You're trying to reverse the father time thing? Because this video, I got to watch it again,

is they are punking you in there. Don't you think? They are bullying you in there. They're trying to make you die in there. You shouldn't be fucking with these guys. These guys are wrestlers. They do cardio literally their entire life. And they're like, hey, big fat slob

who just said he got so old as soon as he retired do 30 up downs with a two-piece in between each at the end of it you're dead right there and they're like let's go let's go hey the good news is i trained with aaron simpson he fought in the ufc too so i do a lot of stuff with him too and yesterday he was like I just gotta let you know that thing you did those up downs are easily the worst thing we do in training too I just wanna let you know they're trying to kill ya they're trying to kill ya

did you see that video out of the Everglades where that guy put his hand into the water to rinse it off after going fishing and that pit bull shark grabbed his hand and flipped him in. And then they got attacked. Yeah, here he is. And the Florida people were like, please, do not put your hands in the fucking Everglades.

Okay, let's... I didn't even know there were sharks. Got him! Jeez! Got him! Boom! Get him up! So he had to go to the hospital, obviously. He had a shark. He did survive, but like that's swimming around the Everglades alongside like alligators and snakes and everything so let's stay away from that fucking part of town but that guy's hand

is like indicative of what I think you tried to do with this whole fight training like you just tried to get in there a little bit and then they're grabbing you pal okay and they're pulling your fucking ass in there you need to watch it these people don't know you can die in there I just tried to

wet my whistle a little bit and i mean i'm full tilt dipstick all the way in right now i mean i'm deep yeah yeah you are aren't you balls to the wall look dude it's over there look where's that over here there it is see the little bag oh yeah okay we get one question mark kick? Can we get one question mark kick? Just one? Just one. You can do it. Yeah, come on. Can't look like a seven either.

With Crocs? Should we get with Crocs? Should be easier. Do they have gems on them? Okay, ready? So the question mark goes here. All right. Oh. I think there was a glitch.

It seemed like it was. Yeah, you got to go full speed. Hey, glitch. The thing froze. The thing froze. When you stop halfway through. How many years were you in the NFL? 12.

12. Pretty good little career there. Pretty good little career there. I had 8, 14 over here. AJ, 12? 11, 12. Yeah, 10, 11, 12 in there. Whatever it is.

I've yet to have a conversation with somebody that necessarily loves the NFLPA that has ever been around the NFL a long time. Did you hear about this whole Demorey Smith stepping down out of nowhere? Who is going to get voted in? Well, we're not telling anybody. And then bang, this morning, a guy

named Lloyd Howe just stepped in there. Kind of, and this is in the middle of summer when everybody's away from their phones and away from their emails and away from anywhere near decision-making situations. It all seems like some real fuckery to me. What is your takeaway on the NFLPA if you just had any information on it at all? Yeah, I just don't understand. I mean, I didn't even know this was happening. And then I saw the text this morning from PAC, and I'm like,

where did this come from? Who the hell is Lloyd Howe? How did this whole thing come about? And why did it happen so quick? Because right in the dead time when nobody's even thinking about football, right? Yeah, and as us retired players, like, there's a lot of decisions that have to be made by the NFLPA that affect everybody going forever. This seems like there's some real of decisions that have to be made by the NFLPA that affect everybody

going forever this seems like there's some real shits AJ our AQ there it seems like there's some real I I you know it just you know what I mean it smells like shit yeah fourth of July is next week next week or whatever right yep so I mean this is not a bad time to do something. You know, 4th of July, nobody really wants bad vibes. Nobody really wants to take too much time reading in and then debating with people. Who wants to do a debate right now in the middle of summer right before 4th of July on anything? Just feels all too coordinated for my liking. But J.C. Tretterson, it is my pleasure to welcome Lloyd Howell as our new executive director. I am proud that our player leadership ran

a professional, confidential search for players by the players. I know Lloyd will lead our union well into the future. All right, J.C., if you got faith in him, we got faith in him. I like that you tried to make it confidential, and that's why nobody heard shit about it. Sweet.

If nobody heard shit about it, though, because this was kind of, hey, ha, hum, hum, which obviously nobody would ever say the NFLPA would do that. No. Not possible. They would never do that type of thing. Who is this Lloyd Howe? Is he another lawyer? Is that the one?

I don't know nothing about this until you just posted his name right there. This guy, he's good at it. He's a genuine guy. He's good at it. You know what I mean? Like, when he walks in. Good at what? It, dude.

Working. It's hard to describe it. He went to Harvard. Yeah, he's got Harvard, Ivy League stuff. He has it. Mr. Hallis serves. Good thing I got my readers on. This is good.

Member of the Board of Trustees. This is General Electric? GE? Yeah, GE Healthcare. 34 years at Booz Allen? Are you kidding me? This guy ran Booz Allen, a professional services company. Mr. Allen served as Executive Vice President of Booz Allen

from October 2022 through December 2022. Okay, that was two months. He says Booz Allen was the transition to his retirement during his more than 34 This is Booz Allen with the transition to his retirement. During his more than 34 years of Booz Allen, Mr. Hal held over it. So he got the job in October and he retired two months later?

It appears as if, yes. Yeah, but that... Been to the top of the mountain, hate to view. That's what he said. You know how much he got done in those two months? Everyone was like, Hal's mad, man. How's he doing all this at one time? Mr. Hal has a

bachelor's degree from the University of Pennsylvania and an MBA from Harvard. That's two Ivy Leagues. Holy shit. That's pretty sharp. He serves as a member of the Board of Trustees for the University of Pennsylvania. Well, they have the Wharton School of Business there, right? Yeah. Oh, that one really creates good business people. Oh, yeah. That one creates business people

that go on a podcast and say, I'm a business person. You know what I mean? And then they go on to just ruin the company and themselves. Yeah. It has happened. That's recent. Yeah. Some of the best executives in the world, though, if Hal is coming there.

You're right. You're right. And he went to Harvard as well as a member of board overseas, overseas University of Pennsylvania Engineering School, and a member of the Washington Economics Club. Ooh. That's an elite chess club. That's an elite club, though.

They don't let anybody into that. All right. Good luck out there, Lloyd. Let's go, Lloyd. Lloyd, we need lifetime health care. Can we make that happen? Lloyd, if you're worth the salt at all, one of these insurance companies that has a trillion dollars

and will only, and remember, every month they get more money. That's literally what insurance is. It's just a nonstop. And they all have deals with the NFL. Just pitch them Legends Healthcare. People will do commercials for them. You can alternate who it is. It's a feel-good story.

You've done good. It's an easy thing, I think, to sell. Let's just do that. You know, AQ, let's just do that. That's all we need. That's all we need. And then also go negotiate with Goodell and 32 billionaires' lawyers.

Yep. That guy. Good luck, Lloyd. You got it, Lloyd. You can do this, Lloyd. All right, let's talk about some football now. Leonard Fournette, still a free agent, almost died yesterday when his car caught on fire. Whenever you look at Leonard Fournette as the human and the player, we're happy he's alive.

That would have been a devastating day in Florida yesterday for the NFL community if what could have happened to Leonard Fournette did happen to Leonard Fournette where allegedly his car just caught fire while he was driving down the street, had to pull off to the side of the road, it would inevitably blow up and explode and the entire thing would catch. That seems like quite a

malfunction of the vehicle, but happy he sniffed it out, figured it out, and got out safe. He's a free agent eight we're not even talking about him is he still playing football is he a guy you would take on your team when you were teammates with him what was your biggest takeaway from leonard fournette yeah i love lenny i think he's a great teammate he's a great running back and i mean he's one of those guys that if he gets in the right situation like if you look at what he did with us in the playoffs if

you look at what he did when he was rolling in jacksonville he's a 240 pounder when he's in shape a 250 pounder when he's a little just a little he was on good morning football he looked 260 yeah he was big he was he looked real because you said when you first saw him he's fucking massive though too right isn't he like beauty and and he's put and he's put together he's like 6162 he's 250 and can run i mean he's fucking massive though too right isn't he like a beauty and he's put and he's put together he's like six one six two he's 250 and can run i mean he's got quick feet he's obviously everything you're looking for in a running back and if you get him in a downhill scheme and just let him get the ball fucking run straight ahead you're gonna get plus four and that's all you're looking for in this league there's plenty of teams in this league that aren't getting plus four on a consistent basis.

This is a guy that can help any team right now that's looking to improve their run game. Him, Zeke, Dalvin, Josh Jacobs, I guess, hasn't signed his franchise yet, but he would have to remain a Raider regardless by July 17th. Who's that? Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt? Yeah.

There's a lot of great running backs out there, bro. This whole narrative about it, how do you feel about it? Do you hate it? Do you love it? You know who I think is partially to blame for this? Your guy, Shanahan and Artie Smith. So I think like with the schemes that are for the run game now and how leverage is being set up by these plays

and they're taking advantage of the defenses, as opposed to just maybe, no, they still got to be physical. They still got to kind of take away their will, but it's also the design set up. You can just put in, now Christian McCaffrey obviously became an absolute guy, but I think the narrative now is,

if you draw up the right run plays, you don't need one guy. You get three guys in fresh you can run the plays as opposed to the player making the plays at the running back position how do you feel about that i hate it like i absolutely hate it and here's the reason why i hate it because listen like think about it they had they had that scheme all along and sure the the niners scheme was great but like that run mccaffrey runs against Philly in the playoffs where he stopped for plus one bounces off breaks one stiff arms another and then boom he's out he's off to the races for a 25

yard tug like that doesn't happen with the three it doesn't happen I think teams are going to start realizing that real quick I think when you cut a guy like Dalvin Cook sure Madison was fantastic in Minnesota fantastic but he was never he was never a one. He's always a two, right? So when you're a two and you're kind of like the guy that comes in and you're the change of pace guy and you come in midway through the series, defense is beat up with tired a little bit, you're going to look fantastic, right? In a good scheme. But now when you're called upon on first down, first and 10 from the minus six and you're backed up in your own end zone and you're called upon to be the guy, are you going to be the same guy we'll find out who knows also when you're asked to do it for 16 17 games and asked to do it for 250 plus carries a year are you going to be

the same guy right so like i mean like if you want to go with a three horse race sure sometimes that might work but i think at the end of the day these special guys the guys that have been special in this league for a long time there's a reason they're special, and they can obviously improve and make schemes even better with what the person can do. Yeah, and I do believe there's obviously an expiration date for everybody, you know, but previous running backs who were special and then kind of fell off, I think, are affecting the current crop, and then also those systems having good run games are potentially affecting it. And there's like the long-term effect, I think, is what you're talking about.

If you just do the three, you're missing out on that whole thing. Dalvin Cook can absolutely still go. I mean, you know, the fact that he's available right now, and Madison has a chance to be great. We, hey, Tony Pollard, right? I mean, he did it. He was able to make the transition into being every down. We're not saying he can't.

But it's like Dalvin Cook was there off. Like, Dalvin, the reason why I think Justin Jefferson has all the things is because Dalvin Cook's in the backfield. Now, Madison's going to have to earn that same type of respect from defenses, and I assume he will. This is me not saying anything different. But, damn, if you're a team that can pick up that respect in the box from one signing of a guy, that feels like an easy decision.

Allegedly, he has multiple offers. That's depending upon which reports you want to read on the internet. He's either mulling over multiple offers, or we know he at least has a Miami Dolphins offer. So Darlington, who is an insider and a pundit, said that Dalvin Cook's coming to Miami. He lives here. He's coming to Miami.

They made an offer. But then you hear other people say, like, why not the Jets? And then he'll like that tweet. Like, has his mind been made that he's going to Miami? He's waiting for a little bit of negotiation leverage to get more money? Or is he truly mauling over his options because he's a fucking game changer immediately and a fucking dog? To your point, Pac, it's wild he's on the market in my eyes, AQ. I'm watching these highlights right now.

It's like you watch this and it's not like it looks like he's in year 13 and lost a step. Like he is fucking cruising still like cruising and so when you look at this stuff and you and you start to weigh these options as gms or front office people or scouts or whatever and let's let's be honest they all overanalyze everything and think the grass is always greener until it isn't right and then you sit here and you watch this stuff and it's like how is this guy still available? And not to mention, even if he does lose a step, these guys are such elite football players of this generation that they lose a step.

What they've lost in a step, they've gained in experience, and have become better football players even by losing a step. And that's what these people can't ever put a number on. Yeah, because we remember your last couple years. He was barely able to get off a ball. Yeah, it was tough. Take that leverage guy back. I think out of all the running backs that we're talking about,

Cook probably the only one that has for sure deals that's in place. And then you go back and talk about some of the other running backs. A lot of these running backs are premium running backs that some teams don't know if they want to share carries. Like Zeke. I'm quite sure Zeke could probably get a job if he could cool with only getting 10 carries a game. You're thinking they're still holding out for a potential bigger influence on the offense? Yeah.

Oh, really? I didn't even think about that. I just assumed these guys understood the deal now at this stage when you're getting signed, how you're going to go about getting signed. But there's some guys that could remain free agents until training camp. Somebody gets hurt, and all of a sudden you are the guy. So I guess there's different ways to play it. But we on this show, big fans, run backs, and offense a lot.

That's right. We've proved that, AQ. We have proved that. Ty has a question for you, pal. Yeah, AQ, allegedly Matt Stafford had an injury very similar to yours in terms of like the bruised or spinal contusion uh we know how bad their o-line was last year that's why he got hurt like when when you had your situation did they tell you is there like a level of severity to it like i just i mean they're expecting him to go out there and play like everything's okay

and we know you know from your situation that it was like hey you have to retire today because if you get hit in the wrong spot there like you could be paralyzed like is is his maybe not as serious or like do you actually see him playing a full season and why are you wrestling with ryan vader yeah i'm sick of it yeah i'm sick of it um yeah i mean i think i think I think there is some different levels to it, right? Like I think, you know, you can get it and not lose feeling, you know, whole body. It also depends on what part of the cord, right? Like the higher up the cord, the more it affects the whole body. The lower down on the cord, it might just affect certain areas, right?

And so he might have just got some tingling. He might have just got some, you know, his canal, I guess, around the court. Might not have been as close to the court as mine. Maybe not taken as big of a whiplash on it. Here's one great point you just brought up. His O-line wasn't great last year.

I don't think they did a ton to get better. Oh, boy. You're hating on them. Oh, boy. You hating on them. They were terrible. Yeah, so bad. They were very bad.

Because it was interesting after hearing that he had a similar injury to you. And I know it's not a glorious day in your football life. And it was certainly a sad situation when you were told that. But that day, whenever you kind of explained to me what the doctor had just told you about, like, yeah, like, there's a chance that if I get in a car crash that is a little bit too, there's a chance that something very bad could happen to me. Like, have to monitor it. That's why the doctor told you immediately upon reading scans, like, yeah, you're never playing football again.

Like, that is, with kind of cold too, right? Didn't he deliver the message, like, pretty cold? Oh, yeah, it was just deliver the news. There was no human element to this whatsoever. Yeah. Middle of the season, you're just starting. Going on a run. Tom Brady, quarterback behind you.

Just another quarterback that you have, you know, touched your butt with. That's right. You know what I mean? Like, kind of really done the whole thing. And then you get told out of nowhere, boom, yeah, you're not playing football anymore. But also – That's right. You know what I mean? Like, kind of really done the whole thing. And then you get told out of nowhere, boom, yeah, you're not playing football anymore. But also, car crashes, need to stay away from

those, because there's a chance. Let's not be wrestling around, horsing around. Let's not be doing anything, really. It's kind of how it was laid out to you. Now, I immediately heard that news and said, that's why I thought, like, you need to fucking pipe down all the time. Because at any moment, I could paralyze you.

You just told me that. I don't want to do that. You're my friend. But, you know, just know that that's there now. But that's why whenever the Stafford news, him coming back, I was so fucking surprised by it. Like, this is a really serious injury. He's legacy Super Bowl champion. Yeah, he's dead.

He's already a Hall of Famer. He got more money than the entire city of Detroit's, I think, GDP maybe. Whenever he was drafted, old, old CBA. So he has filthy cash. He has commercial deals. I assume he's plugged in in LA everywhere.

His college roommate, 40 under 40. In the business world yeah he has a super bowl he's you know so i think we're all very confused about like why is he even rolling the dice but god fucking loves football he does lives for it doesn't he aq i mean he just loves i mean he's one he's one of the few that just loves ball apparently right like just loves paul but you know it's like you said right like i don't know why i mean i guess there is i think the peyton manning thing i think there there's that surgery that can kind of correct it too because i did get told after the fact that

yeah you could do the fusion right yeah i had c3 c4 i asked him why didn't you have the fusion too um so like they did give me that as like an option after the fact. They were like, hey, you can do this, but it's going to be, you know, you're 34, going to be 35. You got three kids. You played 12 years. You won a Super Bowl. You made money.

Like, right? Like, do you really want to keep doing this? Like, do you want to wait a year for surgery and come back at 36? I was just like, no, I'm good. Not the right time. time you had that you're the only three c4 well you're the only non-quarterback that's come back from it right yeah slayton tried to come back from it he'd end up not fusing i think after so many games he ended up having to happen again yeah me and peyton the only one i knew that's done had the surgery so peyton remember he couldn't feel his fingers he got gloves right he couldn't feel his fingers. He had gloves, right?

He couldn't feel his fingers. And this was during the lockout. And there was like a $30 million bonus on the line with Andrew Luck sitting there and a brand-new GM who painted over the walls with the new head coach, Chuck Pagano. So, like, that was quite a scene there. But I think they didn't know if he was going to be able to feel a football again because he couldn't get the feeling back in his fingers. So that's why he started wearing the gloves, allegedly.

I don't think I've ever asked him directly. But then whenever he was with the Broncos, he was wearing a glove the entire time. And I think it's because I assume his hand got back all the way to not needing it. But there was a time, I guess, where he thought he couldn't fucking close his hand. Like, he had the same thing, C3, C4, your thumb, all of these fingers tingling numb. You can't feel these three right now. Jeez, yep.

And then once you have the surgery. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm at, C2, C3, C3, C4. Yeah, you can tell, too. Like, I mean, when I'm telling you it's tingling, it's like somebody hit your funny bone, and that's how I feel the whole time. Damn. So then after the surgery, it doesn't feel that way?

After the surgery, it takes. It took me. Well, the first time, shit, I felt it the whole time still. Then I had to take the bone from my hip. But, like, after two months, then I was like, damn, my finger's not tingling no more. I must be healing. Go back, look at the MRI.

It finally had fused together. How much off time? It took me probably a year to get back. Jeez. Wait, they took a bone from you? Yeah. Did you have anything on your cord? No, I didn't have nothing on my cord, thank God.

Because that was the whole thing. It was like something on your cord. You're fucking not. Never playing again. I had the same situation. Yeah, that's what happened to me. I had the bruise. What's happening?

He's like, well, first thing is you're not going to play no more if you don't have a fuse. I'm like, what are you talking about? I thought I just, you know what I mean, got dinged up. Like, no, C3, C4 is touching your spine a little bit. We got to go and fuse four and five together. And you need to know this, in about five or six years, you're going to have to fuse five and six too.

What'd you do? You submarine into into a tackle that's how it happened no uh the first time it happened remember i told you james harrison hit me i caught a punt and he hit me on the top of my head oh yeah in dallas in dallas and then the second time it happened i just barely went up to touch so i had just scored a touchdown in atlanta and I just went up and barely touched the dude, and I was paralyzed for like 10 minutes. I was like, yo, fuck this. Damn. It scared me. Yeah, I couldn't even imagine.

Like the first time, you know, I was only like, by the time they came out there, I was good. But I was paralyzed for like, I guess, three, four minutes. But the second time it happened in Atlanta, I don't think I got my feeling back. I was halfway in the locker room on the stretcher. Jeez Louise. That's wild. So not even a thumbs up thing off of it? No, no, no.

It wasn't no thumbs up. And it was like a barely touch, too. I had been hitting the shit out of people the whole game. And it was on a never forget to play a two jam. And I just barely went up and touched him. He didn't even hit me. And I'm down. Are you still conscious?

Yeah. Oh, no. It's even scarier. Oh, no. Hey, help. I can't move. Hey, happy you're okay. Happy you're okay.

Look at this. We've got a couple spine neck situations here on the show. That's why the Stafford stuff is so... How old are you? The first time I was 23. The second time I was 27. Okay, so year off, 29 coming back. 28 coming back, 29.

Stafford is 36. How old? Still doing it, bro. Just got an extension. Roll me out on the field. That's how he was at Detroit, too. Dude, and he got slaughtered in Detroit. I actually can't believe he's still playing because he got hit so hard so many times,

but would still play in the games. He played injured all the time. Yeah, he had a broken something. I forget. Maybe his arm? Collarbone, I think. Yeah, collarbone. I think he threw a touchdown with a broken collarbone

and then afterwards, ah, don't touch it, don't touch it, don't touch it. There was just that play going around again where he was super banged up. I think broke his thumb and had some collapsed lung, maybe some broken ribs. He came back in for the last play and threw a touchdown and they won

and he still just collapsed, laying on the turf, didn't get up to go celebrate. One of his linemen had to pick him up and be like, hey, we won. He's just a Texas fucker, loves football. I will literally never forget that play. I think that was early in his career and everyone in Michigan was like,

yep, we got our guy for the next forever and that's just how it was his entire career. This was the shoulder one. Yep, Browns, I knew it. Yeah. Landed right on it. That was one of those tackles that they're trying to change the rules about. If you land with all your weight on top of the quarterback,

just get off the field, okay? Yeah. Don't need, ha, ha, ha, ha. Did we score? Did we score? Down to 10 Gets back up Gets back on the field

It's a legendary clip I'm good I'm good I'm good Yeah I'm good Fuck off Here we go

Back in What do you need me to do? Oh not run No of course not Throw Oh god That hurts so bad God

I get done Don't touch me Calvin Johnson God Oh, God, that hurts so bad. God, it's done. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. God. But that's what's crazy. He's old school, this guy. But that's what's crazy. You're not talking about a shoulder or something.

It's legit. Like, hey, you can't out-tough a fucking spinal cord injury. You get hit the wrong way with a battle line. You could be in a wheelchair the rest of your life. Let's pivot away from that particular conversation because there's a little negative. Hey, Stafford. Let's go. Tough guy, bro. Good luck, Stafford. You earned it.

We appreciate it, man. We do because there's a lot of reasons why you would not have to be. You're incredibly wealthy at this stage. You have all the accolades and connections that you could possibly need and you just being like, yeah, pull me out behind that C-level, D-level offensive line. I love it. And just let me get

my fucking shit kicked in. Where's Cooper Cup? Excited for it. Hey, I love that you're doing it, though, dude. Much tougher than I am. Can't wait to watch him continue to spin this thing. Jason Kelsey says Jalen Hurts is still beating himself up about the Super Bowl loss. I think we like that, AQ. I think we like that, AQ.

I think we like that he's still pissed about it. You got to love it. I mean, that's the one thing they talk about all the time. It's such a cliche saying, but at the end of the day, there's only one team that confetti falls for, right? And so when that happens, you're sitting there. And anybody that's ever lost a Super Bowl, fortunately, I've never been a part of that. I have. Thanks for bringing it up. They say it's pretty bad, right? I mean, all those members of that coaching staff I was with in Tampa,

when they lost the Super Bowl to Green Bay, they all said, like, there's no worse feeling when that confetti falls and you're watching everybody else celebrate. You realize, like, you just went through 22 weeks of a grind to get here, to win it, and then now you just walk away with nothing. Nothing. Nothing. And so, like, of course it's going to beat him up.

You've got to hope that that drives him, that fires in him. Obviously, like, you can't sit there if you're Jalen Hurts and just be like, hey, I just got the bag. I'm good. No, he wants to win Super Bowls, which is cool to see. Yeah, I think it's a good trait to have to be pissed off. I do believe there's been times where quarterbacks actually, like, after a Super Bowl loss just like disappear for

like three four weeks like I don't want to hear from anybody I want to talk to him because the quarterbacks obviously a massive focal point of the build of the hundred and thirty million people watching so like you are literally the person that is taking the blame for the loss publicly and also you

probably feel as if you let down the entire locker room the entire organization the entire city it can be a real low point i think for guys and that was the most devastated room i've ever walked into in my life i've only gone to a few funerals okay it's not really my favorite thing to do but with close friends passing away feel obligated to go pay my respects and kind of do that thing but normally when you walk into funerals, there's certainly people that are negative, but then there's like stories being told and there's a little bit of some sort

of reunion feeling like a little bit. That locker room was the most negative room I'd ever walked into in my entire life with a group of people, every trainers, equipment managers, coaches, players, obviously front office, everybody that has been around the NFL a lot longer than I had been. I was a rookie at that point. Knew the opportunity that was there and how hard it is to get it back. Now, people think that the Patriots are just the norm

because the Patriots were able to do it for 20 years. That shit is not the norm. It is a devastating thing. So whenever I heard Kelsey talk about Jalen Hurts taking it hard, it's like everything I hear about this guy, I fucking love. He works his ass off in the weight room. He, I guess his teammates all just absolutely love him.

And then on the field, he works. You can tell that he works. His arm was the big question mark going into last year, and then he became one of the most proficient passers in the NFL. It's like I love everything I hear about him. Good for the Eagles, and if they would like to trade... No, we're good. You got the guy.

You got the guy. We got the guy. I don't want Josh Allen either. I don't want Josh Allen either. So if Bean comes on here again, I am not going to offer him anything to trade Josh Allen to the Indianapolis Colts. Nope.

I'm good with Anthony Richardson. But that is... With how good Jalen is, that's why the Anthony Richardson dream is real. Because it's like, Steichen just had an immense amount of influence on what Jalen has become, but is Anthony what Jalen is off the field? And that's like, that's the big question mark, I think. Well, I don't know.

Jalen is special, man. From college, from all the stuff he went through, and then still go and perform at a high level like he did last year, I don't know if we could compare those two. Well, listen, I'm just saying that's the hope. But this is just like when people start saying, this guy could be the next A.Q. Shipley. It's like, why? Because he's built the way he's built?

His arms aren't as long? Or does this guy have a barbed wire tattoo on his left arm? He's bald. way he's built. His arms aren't as long. Or does this guy have a barbed wire tattoo on his left arm? He's bald because he's bald. Does this guy, bingo, does this guy have just an absolute dog mentality at all times in between his ears? That's the thing you can't judge. Jalen seems to have it all figured out.

Speaking of in between ears, there's a couple guys with some big things in between their ears that are causing some storylines. Boston Conner's question for you, AQ. Yeah, AQ, obviously you've been through the ringer when it comes to fight camp. You know, you trained with Bader. I believe you trained with multiple fighters and all of them have said, listen, AQ

simply could have been, you know, a champion if he were to dedicate his life early on to this. Now, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are going through camp right now. What do you think they're going through? What do you think they're kind of experiencing as they're rolling around on the map or mat? And do you have any,

you know, early favorites? Do you lean jujitsu with Mark Zuckerberg or do you lean the walrus Elon Musk style that he is supposed to be doing? It's supposed to play to you so fast, dude. Yeah, it's,

it's tough. I mean, this is obviously going to be a majorly watched event. If's tough. I mean, this is obviously going to be a majorly watched event if this happens. You have to lean Zuckerberg. You have to.

I just saw a picture of Elon on a yacht the other day. Bad body. Is that a bad body? He's tossing this guy around. He looks better there than he did on that yacht. I will say that. Who is that? Lex Friedman? Uh, yes.

I mean, Lex Friedman's a psychologist. What makes him like a fucking jujitsu expert? Listen, I didn't know who Lex Friedman was, but I don't know who he is. I don't know what he is. But I do know he's somehow Elon Musk's sparring partner. I assumed he had some sort of expertise in something that involves fighting. A smart guy.

He would have to. Nope. Nope. He's a psychologist. And he is wearing jeans. And I don't know. I don't know if Elon's taking his training as serious as Zuck, which might be an advantage.

Might be an advantage. I just saw a video, Zuck versus Lex Friedman in jiu-jitsu. So apparently Friedman's a guy, okay? So this is Musk trolling Zuck, which is a Musk move since the beginning. Dana White's truly trying to make that fight happen, and why would he not? Could you imagine Sugar Sean on that card and a couple other young UFC stars? Now, granted, when we get to the main event of Facebook taking on Twitter, I don't know if anybody's going to be entertained by the fights.

But if you're a UFC who's promoting that fight, there's a chance to really build up some stars and kind of do your thing. I just hope that they don't embarrass themselves. Which can definitely happen if we're talking about possibilities. No! Yeah, because if you put all the young stars on and, you know, even some of the older studs like Jon Jones and they put on a show. They would not put Jon Jones

on this card. Oh, just have him on his own? Yes. Because Sugar Sean now, he's I think he signed like a seven fight deal though. I think he signed like a big time fight deal. So, I think there would be a way to pay Sugar Sean. The issue with Jon Jones is like the pay-per-view points and the buy points and everything this one they're donating charity all the charity money so i don't know if like i was actually trying to make the card the other day whenever i was trying to balance it because if

you're dana who's a very intelligent promoter it's like okay we got we got some stars that we could potentially build here with all the eyes we're going to have. Now, I'm not saying you throw in just some sack of bones in there against your stars, but maybe. Maybe.

They could have Chris Moutinho fight eight guys. We do not want Moutinho on there. The guy can't be knocked out. That's a zombie. Bro, his face be knocked out. The guy actually cannot. Bro, his face was beating up hands. That's unbelievable. I've never seen somebody utilize their face as a weapon more

than that guy. He was like, right hand, let me fucking eat it. Left hand, bang. Right hand, boom. Pow, boom, pow, bang, pow. He landed, what, 400 shots or something on a guy's face. I think Sugar Sean broke both of his hands. Yes, he did.

That guy's face did more damage to Sugar Sean's hands than his face took from fists. I mean, he clearly was getting outclassed in the fight. He had no idea that you could fight back other than with your face, seemingly. But God damn damn what a secret way that could be a halftime performance at the nba yeah all right we're just gonna line up 50 people to punch this guy in the face and then see if he gets knocked out hey he survived another night everybody give a round of applause yep

give him a beer on his way out he's's good to go. He'd be awesome. He should be in slap league. He would win every time. Oh, my God. He is the slap league. Yeah. Get his ass in there. I've seen two guys in wheelchairs boxing each other.

Yeah, with helmets on. Helmets on. They had, like, full boxing helmets on. Full boxing gloves on. I think they had the wheels taped to each other. And it was like slap league, but they were boxing each other. I'll tell you what. I saw a 14

piece combo from the guy in the closest wheelchair. He never stopped punching. That feels like the right move. The other guy was trying to dodge. The flurry has to stop at some point. And it just didn't. It just didn't stop. Death by volume that's

not a bad play i don't want to see that guy in a phone booth so slap thing it's just like uh that's motino sport last question here for you aq turned yeah aq we know there's two types of offensive linemen there's the offensive lineman who you know they eat one thing and they gain 10 pounds and there's the offensive lineman that have to eat 20 things to gain five pounds and maintain weight the offensive lineman that eat one eat 20 things to gain 5 pounds and maintain weight. The offensive linemen that eat one thing and gain 10 pounds, I'm not saying you're in that category, but you might be, so that's why I'm asking this.

Can you guys even enjoy this time between minicamp and the training camp? Can you guys even go on vacation? Because you let two or three days go, and that's a slippery slope, my friend. And can you also talk about some of the tactics you use to lose weight? Thank you. We'll let you answer. Yeah, so I was the guy that had no issue keeping the weight on. That's why it's a constant grind trying to get it off right now.

But there is the crew. I think the Pouncey brothers, they could eat whatever they wanted just to like stay at like 300 right like that was their whole thing but to answer your question right like when you finish the season and you have all that time before otas you can take that month or two kind of get out of shape party do your thing right and then work your way back into shape and then even when you get back into shape you know you even if you don't get in the best shape, you still have 12 more weeks till minicamp to kind of work your way back into shape. This is such a short break. And I think people don't realize it enough, because here's the deal. Like, I'm not sitting here saying that you get out of shape during the offseason program. But listen, football is the main priority. So when it comes to

lifting, when it comes to running, when it comes to getting your body into fighting shape, you kind of get a little bit out of that because the focus becomes football and you put yourself solely focused on the football product you're putting on tape, especially if you're a guy that's not a $10 million a year guy, right? Like the guy that's trying to grind to make the team or even if you're a middle-of-the-roster guy, right? But the minute this minicamp ends, ends you got to get right back into it like that is that is the last time you can put yourself in a position to feel the best you're ever going to feel for the next

eight months because the minute a week into training camp you're jet lagged your body feels like shit you're already starting the soft tissues the nagging injuries now your fucking head hurts for the next six months uh your shoulder hurts your leg hurts everything's kind of hurt right so you have to do everything you can to to build the armor up per se going into training camp and so that's what these guys do i mean yeah you can take the fourth you can take a quick little you know week trip if you want, but that's about it, man. These five weeks are crucial. Pac, you know it. I mean, it's crucial. It's the only time it matters

really coming up. OTAs do not fucking matter at all. Nobody fucking gives a fuck about OTAs. You remember how good he was at OTAs? Yeah, and then first day of camp, this guy sucks. You can ruin everything that happened in the offseason first day of camp. I've seen people do it. I've actually holy hell, this guy was going to be a star for offseason first day of camp i've seen people do it i've actually holy hell this guy was gonna be a star for us first day of camp fat

out of shape gotta be a failed test yeah and now 40 tests can't keep complete fucking 10 40s of 10 20 yards for the big linemen bingo this guy ain't now this guy's not even on our team it's like yeah but he was the guy in april what is like man don't fucking matter who he was in that is something to think about and this is a crazy take and and some people i think will agree with me especially on the offensive line defensive line stuff right so everything in otas and mini camp is so competitive based like it doesn't matter what it doesn't matter what it looks like all these coaches are preaching win the drill win the drill win the drill right so like that's what it all becomes but here's the deal you're playing in fucking shorts and a t-shirt

your your jersey's baggy as hell which it's not whenever you play in the game your shit's taped to your shoulder pads it's tight as hell these guys can't grab everything i almost felt during otas and minicamp i became worse technically as a football change because i was because i was trying to win the drill all i cared about was not letting some fucking young d lineman ragdoll and grab me and throw me because my jersey's loose so like all i was trying to do was just to win the drill so then i spend these next five six weeks honing in on technique so that when i go back for training camp to get fucking better as a football player yeah i love that and can you just quickly talk about some of your techniques to lose weight

whenever weigh-ins happen every single week, because you are a guy that sniffs a lasagna and gains two pounds. Yeah. So I had some good ones, especially during the season, especially, you know, come Friday weigh-in in season, when you had to be a certain weight or you'd get fined for being overweight, man. Oh, I had the good ones. I had the saunasas which i still got right behind me over there i have um we definitely get the hot tub you get the hot tub all the way down to the neck you get the sweats you can you can bury yourself put the towels on make it even hot all the fighter techniques learning this from bader and those guys

right then the good one the most important one especially after a thursday night buffet and the o-line dinners you go to walgreens you go to cvs you grab the magnesium citrate bottle you chug this shit out of this thing and then you spend the next 15 hours dehydrating shitting yourself every fucking chance you get for the next 12 hours but you don't get fined but guess what you get under 315 pounds at all costs yeah that's right hell yeah that's right i. I see a couple of those mornings where he's weighing in and looks exhausted. Bro, you look like shit, dude. Are you okay?

Hey, Pat, can you bring a couple more bottles of water to practice? I'm going to need to hydrate. $169 per pound that you're over. How much is it? $469 per pound. We had a player that was over on our team, like, for, I want to say, six to seven weeks.

20, like 25 or 30 pounds over. He was getting fined every week. Did not care. Did not care. Hey, I ain't, listen, I'm going to say. Well, he did care. But, you know know come in camp overweight then you have an injury they still got a way in shit down they ain't worrying about it you still

got away ain't this your weight jeez louise they put they put they put him on the bike you know he's going to practice he's on the bike beforehand he's practicing he's on the bike after that's real good like let's just fucking kill the guy and then go make him play. Yeah. It's not smart. It's certainly an interesting thing. There were some guys that tried to do the thumb on the scale or whatever. Oh, okay. Just that was quite a play. I mean, the first time I saw somebody try to do that with a human looking at them,

I was like, this motherfucker's desperate right here. I hope he pulls it off, though. And then all of a sudden, obviously, he's over by seven or eight pounds. And he's like, you have until like 8 a.m to weigh in again if you'd like to go figure out how to maybe drop a pound or two if you got to do it that was a real anxiety for some people yeah really that's why when i showed up at camp had to be the heaviest i could be yep that sets the number exactly you know for the rest of the season so i gotta be under 235 you got it no problem i gotta be under 233 you got it no problem at all but then as soon as that season's over i'm 270 aq we appreciate the hell out of you buddy have an incredible day you over there in arizona over in arizona today's an off day from training

hainsey it's good we're gonna go for a little bike ride get a little sweat get a little movement going that's about it nice keep getting after it it over there. Arizona's such a beautiful place, as are you, ladies and gentlemen. AQ Show. Hey, AQ. And joining us live from Manatee, Ohio. What? He's a main as a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion,

the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, a Ryder Cup winner, but the team did lose to Europe. Oh, geez, Luis. But he's president of Ohio currently. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, COVID survivor, father of 10, A.J. Hall. Hey, A.J.

A.J., how you doing on this beautiful day? How's the AQI over there in Ohio? AQI is pretty high. It's not nearly as high as you guys have over there in Indy, though. How you doing? You okay? You able to do the show? Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't come in and say, well, your baby lung's not okay.

That's what you said the last time. No, it's real. It's real. I get it. I understand. Well, the reason why you were talking the way you were talking and the way we were talking about it the last time is because it's never fucking happened before.

Ever. I don't fully comprehend how this is taking place, why this is taking place. We would like to send positive vibes to those who are closer to the fire than obviously we are. But goddamn, it's our summer. Can we please get some clear skies? We'd like to be able to see downtown, see the lake.

Think about what Indianapolis is right now. We've got about a 500-yard visibility thing. Dubai is 359. Damn. I mean, it's way worse somehow over there. I thought they spent all the money to build up the perfect country. You thought I would. And the perfect place.

They don't have fans up there to blow smoke at. I'm worried about all these people's lungs, most specifically ours because we're in the middle of it right now. But we hope everybody's okay. And we hope that this won't happen again. Yeah. We do fear it will. I'm sure it won't.

I'm sure it's a one-time thing. That'd be cool. Like people dying. Joining us now is a guy who just sandbagged the shit out of a golf course called the Oakmont in Eastern Hills of Pittsburgh. A guy who we had to bet $1,000 on a donation to charity if he was able to shoot an 82.5 or lower at Oakmont,

which is one of the hardest courses in the world, home of the U.S. Open. He just got done with his round live from the property, Dan Orlovsky. Hey, Dan. Dan, you look spent, pal. Long day on the course. How was it this morning at Oakmont?

It was awesome. This place is amazing. To my knowledge, all right, so this is, I want to fill you in on all the accurate details of the morning, okay? It rained for the, like, last 24 to 36 hours here. Did not rain during our round. Welcome to Pittsburgh. So I was told, told like played way easier.

I asked the member that we were playing with, if Oakmont is a 10 normally, difficulty, what was today? He said a three. That's what I texted you. Like much easier. There were three holes that were under construction. I shot 82. Well. I mean.

Playing as a three, it's normally a ten? Come on. I mean, think about how embarrassed that Yinzer was to host this guy. Did you play those three holes under construction? Did you actually play them? Yeah, you play them. You play them. The tee boxes were moved up to different locations. Oh.

I like the way, I like the way Chuck plays. I know. What's up? How about me? How about me having integrity in telling you? I could very easily did it, but I want to tell you the truth. Yeah, well, thank you. You got an 82.

The overrunner was 82 and a half. It feels like there's maybe a little. We wanted to be 80. You guys put everything out? You put everything out too? Yeah. Nice. Feels like there's maybe a little... We wanted it to be 80. You guys put everything out? You put everything out too? Yeah. Nice. Did ya? Did ya? 18 balls into 18 holes today in Oakmont.

Yeah. Not even a... But again, I was told that the greens weren't nearly as difficult today as they would have been if it was dry. Alright. I've been doing a lot of burying of you through this. We should be proud. weren't nearly as difficult today as they would have been if it was dry. I've been doing a lot of bearing of you through this.

We should be proud. Ray Ratt. Well done, Dan. Ray Ratt, Dan. We're very proud of you. I feel, how about we say 500-500 for each to a charity because I don't think the course was playing as hard as it normally does. Okay, sounds good. $1,000, $1,000.

We'll both donate $1,000. That's what it should be. That would be perfect. Yep, for the people. To make the world a better place, do something there around Oakmont, too. Maybe drive over about 20 minutes and go to Plum High School and just take out all the money in your wallet and drop it right into somebody's lap.

Give it back. There's also a beautiful sheet that's right across the road. What high school? What high school's on the way to the airport? That's not on the way to the airport, but Plum High School. Just go stop by Plum High School. It's where the ballers ball players play. Take all the money out of your pocket, you and your little yup friends, and put all the money in the

parking lot. Everybody, it'll get handled from there. Okay? Everything will be okay. I'm happy you're having a good time. Great round. We'll donate a thousand. We hope you do as well. Way to represent out there, ladies and gentlemen, everything will be okay. I'm happy you're having a good time. Great round. We'll donate $1,000. We hope you do as well. Way to represent out there. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlowski. Guy's a fucking player. Yeah, I mean, he has a six handicap. We wanted it to be 80,

and he said no, 82, because it's a hard course, and it turns out it's not a hard course. Yeah, it turns out it was just Oakmont East, which used to be the public course that was right next to Oakmont. He's a good guy, though, huh? Told us the truth. Probably a couple foot wedges. Probably fluffing a little bit.

A couple gimmies. There's no way he putt all 18. There had to be one where it was right next to the hole. Probably would have made it. But it was a gimme. He didn't putt it. Well, to be clear, I would have gave it to him. Yeah, exactly.

That's got nothing wrong with it, but he might be lying. You remember Darius Butler was like offended. These people were giving him putts. Yeah. Why are these people telling me that? I like it. It's a real score. It's a real score.

Yeah. Well, if they're going to give it to you, though, that is a real score. Yeah. Well, yeah. If you're gambling with them and they want to give it to you, but if it's something like off the course that has going on, like you should put it out. How's your game? You feeling good right now about your game going into Iowa? We're two weeks out.

I feel great. Always feel great about my game. You know I'm very positive about my golf game. Hell, yeah. Me too, buddy. I'm at the point where I'm just feeling it. You know what I mean? I'm a straight field player.

All feeling instincts. That's all it is. Me too, dude. And this putter right here, making putts. Look out. Making putts. You got your full PXG guy. I know, man. Look at that fat grip you put on there, too.

Well, it came with the fat grip, actually. Take the little muscles out. Only use the big muscles. You know what I mean? And then the lineup of the ball. This guy's name was Alex Elliott, I believe, was the person that has taught me on Instagram these little things. The lineup of the ball with the line parallel with your putter

as opposed to perpendicular with your putter has been a real game changer because if i line that fucker up with where it's supposed to go all i gotta do is hit it square yeah i hit it square at least i know it's going in the right direction my biggest fear was like if that little fucker's just a little bit off how do i know if uh you know what i mean just that easy man what's that pal it's that easy it's all you have to do no i mean there's obviously a weight thing, and Tahoe's greens are a fucking joke. You might as well putt on a kitchen floor.

Got the green book, though. I mean, you might as well do that whole thing, but at least I got it going in a direction in which I'm confident. I've never felt that before putting. That's all putting is. It's confidence, don't you think? That's all putting is. Like, yep, I'm draining this one wherever I'm at.

Somebody called Aaron Rodgers the best putter they've ever seen the other day. Who was it? When he gets it rolling, he can drain everything. Well, you remember in that match, he fucking buried a 30-some footer. Oh, yeah. Left the right to win it when it was dark out. And he had to feel – oh.

He had to feel so good, dude. On the last hole. Fist pumping. They're picking up. What's that coming up? Is it tomorrow? When's the match? The next one.

Yeah, speaking of, we have Steph Curry on the show tomorrow. Here we go. Yeah, Steph Curry on the show tomorrow and on the show right now. Absolute legend. A man who's been at ESPN since 1996. Long time on television. Obviously, he's electrifying. I do believe he enjoys the chicken parmesan too, and also the sport of hockey.

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe he's live in Nashville, the home of the NHL draft this evening. John Beechy Raw. Yeah, Beechy! Hey! We're live. Hey, you look awesome, dude. You look sweet.

I didn't know you were all tatted up down there. Neither did I. I wanted the introduction to include I was born in downtown Pittsburgh. Yeah. Where was that? So we looked that up. You are a Pittsburgh guy. I believe you moved out.

You were a hockey player, too, growing up, right? And you used to sneak, allegedly, you used to sneak into the igloo to watch Penguins games as a kid, and that's when they kind of spurred your love of hockey. Is that accurate? Did that once. Might have taken the car at age 15 and driven to Pittsburgh, allegedly, with a couple of buddies, Gibby and Steve, and bought one ticket from a scalper, gave it to another dude.

He walked around the perimeter of the arena, which used to be all glass, Pat. You could see through it inside. And he kept going, keep moving, and he let us in the door, and we snuck in and watched the Minnesota North Stars and Mario. Hell, yeah. Your armor on there, Ron Francis, Tommy Barrasso, just got into the Hall of Fame.

Probably in between the pipes. I mean, tonight's a big night for the NHL. I can't get past how fucking good you look right now. Wow. Hey, you look really good, dude. It's chicken parm. It's push-ups. Maybe a little makeup.

No, you're not putting it on your chest. Look at those tats. Did we know that? The boochie was tatted up. I have no idea. I mean, you... I'm also the best putter on the show right now, too. Oh, really?

Yeah. So you grew up playing golf? And then how'd you... I grew up playing everything. Baseball, football, basketball, golf. Indiana, Pennsylvania. Then I moved to Steubenville when I was 11. So always within an hour of Pittsburgh. Steelers season ticket holder my dad was since the mid-60s in

Forbes Field and Pitt Stadium. And then I saw, I grew up with all those Steelers teams. My age is the same age as a Super Bowl. So whenever Super Bowl was next, I know a Super Bowl is next because I should know what my next birthday is. So Steelers won in 9, 10, 13, 14. That's a pretty impressionable thing as a kid, right? Growing up, your team wins a Super Bowl at age 9, 10, 13, 14. That's a pretty impressionable thing as a kid, right? Growing up, your team wins a Super Bowl. It's 9, 10, 13, 14. Become a sports fan for life. And then ESPN became the dream.

And here I am. Hell, yeah. And you're crushing it. So, you're 57. Yeah, I was 56 last year. I'm a 1966 birth year. Holy shit. This is what 57 looks like?

This is what 57 looks like? Oh, I didn't know. It can, Pat. It can. You got to make the right choices early enough because you can't play catch up in this game of life, baby. I think there was a birthday that I had and we had not met. Obviously, we had known each other.

And everybody's tweet was like, happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday, happy birthday. Your tweet was, damn, you're only 31 years old? You need to stop eating carbs. It was one of the greatest tweets I've ever read in my life. I laughed so, I was scrolling. So nice, so nice, so nice. Damn, you're only 31?

I'm like, fuck, Boochie, just absolutely bad. Go ahead. Don't start drinking bourbon until you're 50. I love the brown, but I didn't start until I was 50, so now it's a free pass. I'm afraid I've got some bad news for my skin complexion. I have started

as of very recently. I enjoy it. I put down the beer, though, so now I'm just whiskey. Can't do beer. Beer's an ager. Nothing will age you like beer. Okay, so I'm... Nothing. That's what I'm talking about. You're good. Let's talk about aging, though. Conor Bedard, this guy's supposed to be the next one, Bucci. This is...

They're talking about generational players, and I know the NHL draft every single year has somebody that obviously most American sports fans have never heard about who's going to be a guy. It's different this year with this kid, though, huh? He's supposed to be the real deal. Absolutely. He's not Conor McDavid in terms of acceleration and speed, you know, like a great running back in football, Gale Sayers,

Barry Sanders, pick those electrifying players. That's Connor McDavid. Connor Bedard's different. He's a little guy, 5'10", 185, but he's got quads, he's got delts, strong kid. He's a great shooter. Like Steph Curry's undersized and skinny, but he's a great shooter. The most important thing in basketball is obviously scoring baskets. In hockey, it's scoring goals. skinny but he's a great shooter the most important thing in basketball is obviously scoring baskets in hockey and scoring goals and this guy's a pure goal scorer his release his shot I think he's going to get 700 in his career I think he's going to walk into the league I think the over-under would be like 35 and a half for goals I think next year as a rookie I think he's that good I think he'll come in and score right away that's awesome to hear for the NHL and he's's going to Chicago, a big city.

Go ahead, AJ. Let's go. Hey, after that, after Bedard goes, do we see any fireworks, anything crazy going to happen, or is it kind of slotted? What do you think is going to happen two through six or whatever? Yeah, it's unpredictable. It's kind of fun. The most important position in hockey is the center.

He has to play 200 feet by 85 feet. That's the dimensions of an NHL rink. 200 feet long, 85 feet across. He's got to play that whole ice. And there's, after Bedard, there's three pure centers. Adam Fantilli goes to Michigan. He won the Hobie Baker, best college player, Heisman trophy for college hockey. Then Will Smith, the fresh prince of Boston College, is shooting up the charts. He's going to Boston College in the fall to play college hockey for a year. He could go, too, to Anaheim. And Leo Carlson, one of those big Swedish dudes who's probably like Andrzej Kopitar,

just a solid, maybe not an ultra-flashy superstar, but money in the bank, 6'3", 200-pound center who can do everything, the kind of guys you win with in the playoffs. So Fantilli, Smith, and Carlson, nobody knows, though, the order. And then there's this Russian dude, Matvei Mishkov. He's like this big mystery. And he ain't just sports style. There's very few mysteries, right? Anymore like when I grew up and you grew up, Pat.

Remember Marcus Dupree? He was like this weird VHS home video running back that's supposedly as big as a Ford F-150 and can run a 4.2. And we didn't see him. And so most people, though, we see them on YouTube and everywhere. But this Matt Vamishkov is Russian. He doesn't talk to anybody, obviously, what's going on in Russia. And so people think he's the second best after Bedard, but they're afraid to take him because he's got to play in the KHL for three years. It reminds people of J when Jager told every team I'm not going to sign I'm not coming to America I'm staying in

the Czech because and Czech Republic at the time Czechoslovakia I'm going to play there but secretly he wanted to play with Mario in Pittsburgh so he told he told everybody I'm not coming to America even though he loved America and then he was there for the Penguins to take comes wins two Stanley Cups as a young kid, and the rest is history. So, Mitchkoff kind of reminds me of the Yager story back in the day. I think Yager's still playing somewhere. I think he owns a team and actually played. He was Jackie Moon this year a couple of different games.

He keeps getting the Hall of Fame because he keeps playing. You have to wait until you stop playing to get to the Hall of Fame. It's kind of stupid. Like, put him in now. Yeah, a guy can score. A guy can still score. Die on the ice. Hey, Mike Croke. Mike Croke out there. That would be incredible. Another Russian for the Pittsburgh Penguins. but like put him in now yeah guy could score that could still score die on the ice hey mike croak

mike croak out there there'll be incredible another russian for the pittsburgh penguins gino had to get like um like kind of hidden ran out of russia too right then he the rush or russian mafia was like looking for him they had to hide him get him out of russia to get to the pittsburgh penguins and then they had to hide his family too and kind of get him out of there is that not is that accurate am i retelling that story it's the wild west over there it's uh especially now it's really dicey and obviously ovechkin's in a weird spot he's always been you know a pro putin guy meanwhile he's chasing this record it's the biggest record breaker probably since hank aaron when he gets gretzky's record in about two and a half years so hopefully by then the whole

geopolitical landscape is better so we can really kind of celebrate and enjoy. Because I think that's the next big record in sports is Ovechkin breaking Gretzky's 894 record. And he should do it in about two and a half years on ESPN, March 17th, 2026. I'll be doing the play-by-play. Thank you very much.

Okay. I love that. Imagine if he calls a shot right there. That's fucking incredible, Booch. That'd be Chicken Parm. That'd be Chicken Parm. Chicken on the Hill with Will. Love that.

When Willie Stargell was a pirate, he had a chicken restaurant up on the Hill District. When he hit a home run, it was Chicken on the Hill with Will. I would change it to Chicken Parm on the Hill with Boochie. Chicken on the Hill with Will rhymes better. He was my one good idol, Willie Stargell. Parm and Booch it to Chicken Parm on the Hill with Bucci, and Chicken on the Hill with Will rhymes better. He was my one good idol, Willie Stargell. Parm and Bucci. Chicken Parm is

Gucci with Bucci. There you go. Have that on March 17, 2026. Write it down. St. Patrick's Day too. Great, great day. I mean, what a time. Holy hell, I can't wait for St. Patrick's Day in 20. Great, great day. I mean, what a time. Holy hell, I can't wait for St. Patrick's Day 2026.

Let's go. That's going to be. For my mom, Mary Donovan. Mary Donovan, my mom. She couldn't get more Irish than that. Hell, yeah. I love that. Happy St. Patrick's Day and all the ones that I've missed going back for this moment in

our first time talking. You said the Fresh Prince, Will Smith, going to Boston College, even if he gets picked number two, he'll go to college instead of going? He'll go to college. Yeah, that's what's interesting about the NHL draft. Some guys get drafted. Most go back either junior in Canada because you can play until you're 20, or they go to college and play one year, two years.

Like Fantilli played last year at Michigan. He was underage, and so he could play in college. Now the question, will he go back or not? Logan Cooley was the first-round pick last year, went to Minnesota, decided, I'm going back again because I don't know what's happened in Arizona with their arena deal. So he's going to go back and play for Minnesota for a second year. So, yeah, some guys either go back and play junior, stay in Europe,

play college, or go right to the NHL. That's what this Mitch Koff dude, he's got a three-year contract in the KHL, so that's part of it. You're not even going to get him for three years. Like that Kaprizov guy from Minnesota, same for a while you got to wait for three years for him the other people you draft them and you put them you monitor them and you you put in the best position where they're going to develop because they're 18 years old and some of them are late bloomers some are ready to go some are tweeners and you got to make that decision all right so

let's talk business side of it go ahead Connor yeah Bucci speaking of we're talking about this with college baseball has NIL contributed at all to players kind of staying in college or choosing to go to college versus the nhl because they get the college experience and they're also making money now or is it kind of what you were saying doesn't matter as much and guys can go get developed in the nhl and those kind of systems i think it could be if it's close they might stay like but they're only going to make like 50 to 100 grand though some of these college hockey players we're not talking about a million yet but yeah the big schools Minnesota, Michigan, BU alum they're starting this program

where they these you know these donors give a bunch of money they set it up a certain way they can set it up as like a charity and the kids can do like charity work and so they can write off the donation and they're going to use this to give these kids a little 50, 75, 100. Some just to go there and some just to stay. But, yeah, it could. So Logan Cooley, by going back, he sacrifices about a million bucks a year that he'll never get back. He pushes his contract up, but at least he can make 50, 100 grand in Minnesota

and then go turn pro next year, and then that contract begins next year. It just keeps sliding. Yeah, at least he can buy some beers for the boys. Right. You know what I mean, be able to do that. Buy a lot of bush light in Minnesota for 50 grand. Oh, don't you know. I mean, you go out there on Lake Minnetonka too.

Yeah. I've been there. I've been there. Oh, yeah, me too. I pulled a swordfish out of there one time, ice fishing. You ever do that? I know. No, I was on a jet ski in July on Lake Minnetonka.

Oh, with the Vikings boat? Were you there with the Vikings? In Apollonia 6. Oh, Jesus. Having a good time. Bucci, you've lived, it feels like. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Bucci, I saw Bedard's first game is going to be against Sid

and the Pens, which will be awesome. Yes, it is. Like, speaking of, like, is that a kind of a passing of the torch situation, or is it not because McDavid's there? And then are the Pens, are the Pens, are we too old? Are we dead, Butch? Are we too old? How do we feel about the Pens?

I know. Well, Bedard, yeah, opening night, ESPN triple header. We have Nashville, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Chicago, then Vegas raises their banner for the triple header game. But, yeah, Bedard, I kind of compare Bedard to Sid in the way he's 100% dedicated nerd hockey guy 24-7. And if you're betting on a guy or you want to develop an 18 year old to become that franchise player, you want him to have that commitment to the game, not be a human gong show. Just you can rely on him and depend on him. And that's Conor Bedard.

That's where him and Sid probably are maniacally the same. Different players. Again, Sid's a distributor. This guy's a pure goal scorer. Brett Hall. Think Brett Hall. He's going to get bigger and stronger and just shoot from everywhere and score 50, 60, 70 goals a year. The Penguins, again, yeah, they're in that tweener position. They hire Kyle Dubas. They got Letang, Sid, and Gino. And are they delusional to think they can still win one more cup? Can they do that with the cap? So, yeah, it's an impossible. They've got to hit a home run with every sign, right? Every trade, every sign.

Maybe get a pick tonight that's going to be able to step in and play next year. And a good support. Zach Benson, some other big, strong kid. Maybe they move up a little bit. Maybe that's what Kyle might do that tonight. Maybe move up and trade some future capital to try to win now that one more for Sid. But as you know, that's a dangerous thing to do. Not many can pull that off, get that one more.

Yeah, you know, it would be great if they were able to do that. But it is a bit alarming watching that team and then watching every other team that lasts in the playoffs and be like, wow, we have nowhere near the speed of every one of these teams. And it was fun following that Vegas team. Hell yeah. It was fun following that Vegas team this year. Tough, fast, loyal group.

It feels like they're mature. They didn't get into it. Florida paying off and kind of building hockey there. But if the Penguins are in the playoffs, obviously it's going to be bigger, better, better. Everything's going to be bigger, better, better. Everything's going to be bigger and better. So let's go ahead and make that happen, Booch. Why don't you let Conor Bedard fall to the Pittsburgh Penguins?

Yeah, that'd be cool. Why don't you start pushing some buttons over there and get the Blackhawks kicked out of the league? We actually kicked you guys out of the playoffs last year. All right. Boochie, we appreciate you, pal. Have an incredible day. Thanks for having me. Wish it wouldn we appreciate you, pal. Have an incredible day. Thanks for having me.

Wish it wouldn't have taken so long. Don't really appreciate the new tax in my paycheck. Federal, state, Pat McAfee, don't appreciate it all. It's alright, buddy. There's going to be a plus on there for us coming, too, at some point. And that's the whole purpose. I'm in your corner. I got your back. I appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen,

John Beecher, girls. Yeah, Bucci! Yeah, you know, I'm sure there corner. I got your back. I appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, John Beecher, girls. Yeah, Bootsy! Yeah, you know, I'm sure there's some people over there in that building that don't love us. Well... Good news is, you don't have to be in that building. That's fucking part of it all, you know what I mean? At least hate us from afar so we don't have to see you. That's fine.

But we're trying to raise everybody's dollars over there. Exactly. You know, that's the purpose of doing business. Open more doors. that's the purpose of doing business. Open more doors. That's the purpose of partnership. That's the purpose of doing this. Let's go ahead and do this. Let's make good stuff.

Let's enjoy it. And then let's hopefully take care of everybody that does all the hard work. That's right. That's the motto we live by over here. Bingo. Hopefully that'll permeate everywhere. If you can earn it, you can earn it. And also, Conor Bedard's just a fucking goal-scoring machine, huh?

I guess so. So Ovi's about to catch Waino, and then, sorry about it, Ovi, guess who's coming in? Stoner. Pure goal scorer. Nick, I was going to – no, Stoner, excuse me. We're talking about this guy tonight. Oh, okay.

It's Conor Bedard's night. Sure. Stoner had a week in Vegas. He's going to have an entire offseason. Stoner's a legend. Turns out he was playing with a broken wrist, a couple broken ribs, broken everything, basically. Is that what came out?

All the shit came out? Yeah. No video. So while we were talking to him, talking to him about all the things that are coming out, he was holding his phone with a broken arm. Fucking beast. Hockey's a different animal.

Yes, it is. It's absurd. How about him describing his conor bedard guy he's got good quads good traps hockey nerd he can skate good you know he's more of a sydney crosby sid doesn't really talk ever publicly i did see conor bedard bury biz yep whenever he was on uh one of the tnt kickoff shows so i enjoyed that i appreciate that i saw him also get business back a different time. I think it was while he's been in Nashville.

Someone asked him, Biz or wit? And he said, Biz. So he's kind of played back to him after he razzed him the first time. Good for him. What a show they have going on over there. Awesome. Really big fan. I assume they're going to have big shit tonight.

We'll take some phone calls later on this hour on the 5RNG phone line. 1-833-433-3663. 1-833-433-3663. 1-833-4... The Dome. You think he wears... every day? Under his... Oh, yeah.

I think so. That looked like a tucked in, underdressed shirt. Yeah. Got some sun there, too. Looked like it was crushed. To be honest, my brain feels like it's going to melt after seeing all those tats. And, I mean, it's just just not how jacked he is.

As someone who's dad wears that every day, that's not just a one-day thing. That's a lifestyle. You think he has the bike shorts on, like Coach? I don't know about that. He seems more of like a golf short guy. I was thinking jeans. I was thinking old school, grease. Bro, he had one here.

He had one here. He had one here. He had one here. He had a Camaro out front. Yeah, for sure. Two on the chest. He doesn't smoke cigs. Diggs found the tweet. It was my 33rd birthday. Oh.

And he said, you're only 33. You look 43. Lay off the carbs. Jesus. So I didn't get the exact verbiage right, but that was the first time he had ever tweeted me. I think I tweeted you. I thought you were 43. Easy on the carbs. That was what he said to had ever tweeted me. I think I tweeted you. I thought you were 43. Easy on the carbs.

That was what he said to me after the 33. I never talked to him. I tried his boochy overtime challenge a couple times. Of course. See if I could win a free shirt or whatever. Right. And we had interacted, obviously, knew of each other's existence. That's the first time I think he's ever tweeted me.

He knows the cut of your jib. Yeah, big pop out of me. Yeah, guy. Big pop out of me. Now, if he knew you were from like la or something like that he would not have taken that shot at you he would have taken it a different way i think there's some well softer tendencies potentially in some places and not sure places i think tony's referencing one person are you not i would love to be though oh okay someone you know

a few shots were thrown some guy's way and he wasn't very happy about it and he didn't he didn't use verbatim what what words were thrown his way in particular oh he wasn't very you're talking about a basketball player and i am talking about a basketball player yeah kevin durant getting into it okay let's dive into it yeah kevin durant's awesome on the internet again and i do believe the way this story was told to us was in a fashion in which we weren't supposed to believe that Kevin Durant is awesome all it did is just make me think Kevin Durant is even more awesome

Jason McIntyre of The Herd I believe and he also has a podcast on the volume of sports, congrats to Logan Swain 40 under 40 40 under 40, Logan Swain he's running the volume network over there with Colin Coward. Had no idea that McIntyre had his own podcast.

Learned of it literally as he was explaining the situation with Kevin Durant. And if you do recall, he opened his mouth talking about how Kevin Durant is acting in a way of negative that he shouldn't do. Get a life. Get a life. Then Kevin Durant answered to Jason McIntyre in his DMs. And I do believe we have the video. Perfect. Here's Jason McIntyre

of McIntyre Sports on the Volume Network describing the situation between he and Kevin Durant that is now taking place in his DMs. Once you say something nice about someone, they reply, okay, I see you. Then when you say something nice about someone, they reply, okay, I see you.

Then when you say something not so nice, you get this. You're such a clown. You don't even like sports. You look like a drama major. Very old there. I've never taken an active class in my life. I said to KD,

one of the 15 best players in the history of the NBA squabbling with anonymous fools in a comment section? It was never your brand when you won the MVP and two titles and finals MVPs. Why pivot that way now? He just got personal. You're a fool, blah, blah, blah. He used the P word to describe me. He calls me a broke boy.

Doesn't address any of it. Doesn't address why he would argue about being top five. And again, I'm a Kevin Durant guy. Well, Jay, how are you a Kevin Durant guy? If you're saying he's an idiot for battling guys in the comment section of a Twitter spaces. Well, time out. This isn't black and white. You love this guy.

You hate this guy. You can like someone and totally disagree with something they're doing. Are we really at the state where you have to be 100% all behind somebody or 100% against somebody? It doesn't work like that. Bottom line, I still like Kevin Durant even though he's calling me all these names. He's hurt. I get it. Life will go on.

He's hurt. Kevin Durant, you know, he's one of those MVPs that win everything. He didn't have burner Twitter accounts. That wasn't documented. It wasn't documented of him just burying people on Twitter. Not being a guy who has the time. Oh, yeah. Has always been, which is why I am a massive fan of his.

I do like that this guy, though, seemingly, McIntyre, hey, he's given a firm sports take. Ain't he? He's given a firm sports take.-huh hey me he's given a firm sports take p word was used huh was that a little so many different p words how many like there's what is he calling oh i thought i called him a peen like he's a dick oh maybe he called him like poutine oh Poop face. Yeah, soft one. Poop face. Poop face. Wow. Poopy face. I didn't even think about that one. Poop face is too far. That's like calling somebody, nope.

What? I don't want to say it. I don't want to say it. Let it out. Let it out. Call somebody a jive turkey. No. Oh.

Didn't say JT word. Yeah. Jeez Louise. He said P word. Let's not take this way too far. Okay. Come on. So we don't know exactly what the P word was.

Maybe he just said, you're a pack. Maybe he was talking, oh, maybe. Maybe pickle, like you're a pickle. You know what I mean? Pterodactyl maybe. Yeah, because the P's silent. So maybe Kevin Durant wanted him to know. Oh, straight fire, huh?

How about this one? Boom. Pterodactyl looking ass. Called it a P word. It's possible. I mean, there's a chance any of that is the case, but we would like to let Kevin Durant know we are firm in your side. If you want to go into Twitter spaces and just bury people,

I just think the way you guys even look at the game is whack as fuck. Like, do it. We are very thankful for it. And also, McIntyre, we appreciate you as well i i feel like if we say anything we're not gonna be called a drama major you know and him saying i've never been in acting class at all we know what he meant we all know what he meant mcintyre so aj your thoughts on this you think kevin durant needs to clean it up a little bit huh be a little bit more role model-y saying the p word and everything like that?

It's through DM. So Kevin Durant was not trying to make this thing public. He was trying to deal directly with this guy, right? He didn't make it public. Private, not P-word. Oh. I was trying to keep it as P-word. Yeah.

Pushing. You private son of a bitch. But I am here for it. We can disagree and say, hey, you don't need to be doing this. It's a waste of your time. You have a billion dollars. You're one of the best players ever. But if you want to engage, I to watch no problem yeah we're here for it i mean every time you're done with it you feel as if you lost probably yeah because at different stages of twitter even if you're the rightest you've ever

been in your entire life there's going to be at least some people tweeting you at a enough of a rate that you see it where they're going to tell you you're wrong and completely wrong. I don't know if Kevin Durant's ever going to change anybody's opinions whenever he's describing it, but I like whenever I listen to him talk about it. He says, you talk about players and you do team things and then you do this. It's like, okay, that's how one of the greatest players of all time views the game. We can, as a sports media, take some stuff out of his answer to this guy.

Now, he's talking shit in this twitter spaces like to these people it's awesome but there is a narrative underneath about how kevin durant views basketball and views it as a whole so i would assume that kevin durant's like i gave you some real answers in there while i was burying these people your big takeaway was don't be rude to these fucks so kevin durant on different levels is operating in four-dimensional chess and uh i love everything about it yesterday i ain't have time today i got fucking time yeah it's katie's awesome too it's not like this is the first time katie's ever done this like we all watch the letterman you know my next guest like he is about it he's not he's aware

what people think about his twitter burners and this was on his but he doesn't care like he calls himself god on twitter for a reason he he thinks it's hilarious and i don't see why we wouldn't it's also kind of refreshing when it's like you know like you're he's not supposed to do that but you know they always say like hey athletes hear everything you say like they're not going to respond and he's just like you know what nah fuck it i am going to respond like fuck these people just like, you know what? Nah, fuck it. I am going to respond. Like, fuck these people. This dude did say he was two-time champion. The MVP's never belonged to you. Like, he did, like, throw some shots, too, now.

Oh, absolutely. Oh, you're saying that he's falling off is what McIntyre said. He's straight fire. Yeah. Straight fire McIntyre. You know what I mean? That's right. Volume. Yeah.

The numbers on that tweet, real good. They were going. The numbers, you tweet, real good. They were going. The numbers, you know? Yeah, those numbers matter, too. What made KD get in that Twitter spaces? How'd he get in there? I think he just popped in because KD is not top five all the time. Yeah.

That was the name of the Twitter spaces. And he just saw it on his feed. Yeah, because if you accidentally on your phone with the way they set up Twitter, and Congressman Mike Gallagher said he likes elon's twitter and everything like that i think we all speak like twitter's never going to die but this particular version of twitter needs to fucking get better yeah we're going through it it needs to get better they need uh there's been different regimes of twitter you know there's privately owned and publicly traded and everything like that fleet so twitter is always

fleets i mean that was yeah i used to fleet the shit out of things. Love fleets. There's been different iterations of Twitter through, you know, same regimes have different Twitter. This is what it is now. We need to. What do you need to change? What do you want to see?

Just everything. Like the algorithm needs to be tightened up a lot. The algorithm needs to be figured out a lot. You follow people. You don't see their stuff. You're force fed some stuff. You're force-fed some stuff. And then these suggested tweets that I guess make sense that they're putting on the bottom of things kind of makes it look like that is a response to something. Yeah, it does.

But it's not actually. So they just need to clean it up. Like I think you just need to – let's tighten this thing up. You've got a weapon here. Everybody knows you've got the full weapon. But at the bottom, like they were trying to push spaces. Big time. got the the the full weapon but at the bottom like they were trying to push spaces big time so you can accidentally like click on the spaces and then all of them that are happening are just listed out

there even if you follow any of these motherfuckers like so this is qatar to win uh mu fc takeover united latest with ben jacobs 3 000 people listening we back from ricky maserati dot dot dot again smiling that must have crashed we assume that must have crashed there yeah spaces is it me We back from Ricky Maserati. Dot, dot, dot. Again. Smiley. That must have crashed. We assume that must have crashed there. Spaces suck. The quality is terrible. It sounds brutal.

Yeah, they tried to take out, what was it? House? No. Periscope. No, what was that thing? Clubhouse. Clubhouse. There it is. Clubhouse was just like this new platform that was taken over.

It was actually doing pretty well where people were just microphones on, sitting in a space, and then you could see who it was. So I think Twitter tried to do their iteration of that, kind of killed Clubhouse. But now it's kind of been the same thing for all time. But anybody can get into any one of those and become a speaker in those things. So it's like I think KD saw, I think he accidentally hit the spaces button, which I've done.

I'm not trying to find a fucking spaces. I think he accidentally hit it, and then maybe the top one, KD is not top five, and he's like, wait, am I the? About to close out Twitter. I'm the KD, right? Right.

Get in here. Let me listen to some of this shit. Listen to him a little bit, and then request a speech. Easy money sniper. You could see how that would happen on Twitter if you're on there. So I enjoy the fact that McIntyre was like, this is unbecoming of you. He's like, motherfucker, I was high on Twitter.

Who gives a shit? I got time. Drama major. I've never heard that used as a shot at somebody. You know, I've never heard that. Yeah, it should be a compliment. Bingo. Yeah, you could be an actor.

Hamilton, awesome. Yeah, you should be on Broadway. Hell yeah. His name was Alexander Hamilton. Do you know we have a guy in this building that works for us that saw Hamilton before it became a Broadway play? Off-Broadway? Who? Yeah, Off-Broadway? Off-Broadway, I think, means after and

before, so I think that is two different things. Before it made it onto Broadway. Before it was mainstream, huh? He's a focus group. To see whether or not it should go onto Broadway. Lin-Manuel Miranda had already achieved commercial success.

Bruce! Holy shit, Bruce! Oh, wow. Holy shit, Bruce. In the Heights was a massive hit on Broadway already. So Lin-Manuel, Hamilton was just a second act. Yeah, but I'm sick of people talking about us like we're not cultured. We saw fucking Hamilton before Hamilton was even Hamilton. What?

We were part of the focus group saying, Yay, let's go to Broadway. Or nay, Bruce Bryan. He actually gave feedback that they actually used when Hamilton went on to Broadway. They need the king to have a little bit more of a bop when the king's singing out there. Lin-Manuel loved how old and disgusting his blue jeans were

that he actually put them in the play as well. This will actually be what George wears. Holy shit, look at that. He did have a little pizzazz, didn't he? Yeah, he did. A little pizzazz in there. So you guys are falling in love with the word pizzazz on the pod? That's what I saw the title of it was.

Boost your pizzazz or something like that. Well, Bruce came in the other day, and he said that when he sends something into the group text, he's trying to add a little comment after to add a little pizzazz to it, maybe give a little context. So we said, hey, your pizzazz meter has been off the charts lately. And then he came in kind of down in the dumps a little bit. It was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you've lost all pizzazz. This cannot happen.

Has the AQI killed your pizzazz, Bruce? What is going on? Like there's horses? No, I mean, the pizzazz is back. The pizzazz is kind of as it flows. The pizzazz of Bruce. What's wrong with the jeans? Why did you take a shot at his horses? No, I mean the pizzazz is back. The pizzazz is kind of edge and close. What's wrong with the jeans? Why did you take a shot at his jeans? He dressed like an asshole. Not as big of a...

See, I don't try to dress like an asshole like Connor. I just accidentally dress like an asshole. Whoa, whoa! What the hell? Bruce is coastal elite. So he dresses like the humans. Boom! Je jeans and then the new balance

shoes and then you know like it's like how the street hype it is how like the east coast like dresses i think like you go to new york for sure you see what bruce dresses like everybody wears and they're like this is future this is future fashion i'm like have you seen jace claypool and stefan dicks oh yeah you do not know if You might think you're fashion, but you ain't fashion fashion. You ain't fashion squared. You ain't setting the tone of what the future could look like with people wearing clothes. That's what Chase Claypool and Stephon Diggs are doing. Now, we know Stephon Diggs is telling a story of his emotions with what he's wearing.

Chase Claypool is in the same frame. I did not know that. These motherfuckers love fashion. and i love that they love it and i love that that will never be what humans actually wear but because they're wearing this it's at least exploring the space of what people could feel comfortable wearing those shoes connor said he's buying them next week i need them so bad i've been thinking about them ever since I saw his Instagram. That's fashion, though. So you cannot say, what's that? What you got to say is, thank you for what you're doing for all of us, Chase and Stefan Diggs.

Because if it wasn't for the person that took the boat across the Atlantic Ocean. That's right. That's right. What he did after that. He said, the world is not flat. Exactly. Thank you. I was trying to describe that particular Italian man in a way in which, you know,

is accurate because he was the first motherfucker that said, all right, I'll go. Thanks, man. You go, you'll fall off. Oh, will I? Good. I hate my life at home. He hops in there. He goes, now, does he steal things, take credit for things,

potentially do? Certainly, maybe. But if it wasn't for him doing that, nobody else is coming. You know what I mean? Now, granted, there's people that say we sure know to begin with. Well, we're here. Sorry. Too late.

You know what happened. Hate that it happened. But the people that explore the space, you know, kind of open the avenues for those behind them. Too late. You know, it happened. Hate that it happened. But the people that explore the space, you know, kind of open the avenues for those behind them. Hell yeah. And that's what Chase Claypool and Stephon Diggs are doing, and I think we've got to thank them for it, AJ. I mean, I thank them.

You're right. It is pretty amazing. So now, like, what Chase Claypool was wearing there, was he part of a fashion show? Now, fashion show is just to show off your stuff so then people will buy them, right? Buy your clothes? Designer's stuff, not just anyone's a hawk.

Is this his own line, though? I'm asking. The outfit was part of a designer's. The thing in his hand that he's holding actually stole off of a St. Bernard rescue dog in the Himalayas. What? What? It's a shame. It's a shame those dogs work really hard to save people.

You don't understand. See, that's a pig that doesn't understand fashion. That's right. This is in Paris. Yeah, Paris. Yeah. This is a Paris fashion week. I know.

Louis Vuitton. Is that Louis Vuitton? I think so. Well, you're right. That is 95 bucks. Less than 95 bucks. You can have that. Oh, you're right. That is 95 bucks. Less than 95 bucks, you can have that. Oh, yes. Yeah, I mean.

See, Pac gets it, though, because Pac was actually telling me last week, it's his goal to actually go to Paris Fashion Week and do this. Yeah, Pac, you're kind of into the fashion fashion, the fashion squared, the future of thinking. Get a shin guard. Yeah, we got a couple for you if you need it. Shin guard. What are the, like, what is the, so.

What's the fucking point? So when Chase is wearing it, he's like, yeah, I actually want to wear this. I think this is from a Louis Vuitton shoot for real. I think they give them two, three outfits and they have to wear it. This is what they sign up for. And Chase said, like, okay, cool. People want to buy this at some point? Like, is that what Louis

Vuitton thinks or what are they just... Because there's like garbage bags that walked on it. Like actual garbage bags. It's ridiculous. And they're like, yeah, this is what... They're probably thinking it's art, right? Yeah, thinking outside the fucking box. I mean, he should know Chase more

than me because... Zito should know. I don't know what to say. Now he more than me because this is his. Zito should know. Zito's wide receiver. Yeah. I don't know what to say. Now he's yours. He is mine now. He's wide receiver three right now in my book.

But I like the fact that he's got good fashion. Yeah, top five all time. Top five in the league. Easy. The whole fashion thing is really something, obviously. I mean, I dress like an asshole. Yeah. That I've never truly understood. But I like that they're getting connections and incredibly wealthy communities

because I feel like everybody that's at these things dressing like assholes all have so much money. Oh, yes. So I like the fact that they're networking, finding something they enjoy. But whenever they post a photo on the Internet, it's going to be hard for me as just a normal human to look at it and not say, why are you dressing like that? It's not October 31st.

What are we doing? It's fair, but you know, when in Paris, you kind of just have to go with the flow. You're not going to walk in front of the Arc de Triomphe or the Louvre dressed in sweatpants and a t-shirt. You're going to wear a sweatshirt that's got

800 holes cut in it. That's just what you're going to do. Or you're going to wear a mermaid fit that has your face covered, and you're going to do. Or you're going to wear a mermaid fit that has your face covered and you're going to fucking kill the wedding that you got. Hey, who's your plus one? Does it matter? It's this thing. Check it out. It's like a fencing outfit.

What we're saying is we think we're too dumb to understand fashion, but we appreciate those that are fashioning out there. When you say you dress like an asshole and then these people dress like an asshole, does that mean that the way that we dress as assholes is just as much fashion as the way those assholes dress like assholes? Yeah, but I think you're putting way too much stock

in my judgment of what dress looks like. You know what I mean? Because we'd be going off of my barometer because I dress like an asshole, you dress like an asshole, they dress like assholes. Yeah. But who knows if that's how they're being.

They're not viewing it as dressing like assholes. Well, and I don't think Stefan Diggs at all was dressed like an asshole. He dress like assholes. Yeah. But who knows if that's how they're being. They're not viewing it as dressing like assholes. Well, and I don't think Stefan Diggs at all was dressed like an asshole. He looked sick. Awesome. Yeah, tank to, you know, some cargo shorts to the coolest. Not cargo at all. What are they? Are you sure?

I don't think there's any pockets. There's no pockets. That's all leather. There's no pockets because whenever you show up, you don't want to be distracted. So, like, I think he looks awesome. Yeah, I agree. The one shin guard is going to be a tough sell for me because they can still get your shin if you don't want to be distracted. So, like, I think he looks awesome. Yeah, I agree. The one shin guard is going to be a tough sell for me because they can still get your shin if you don't have the other one.

Suspender hanging, too. Yeah, he looks sweet. Yeah, that's awesome. And those shoes, I really do generally, like, want them. They cost you $15,000. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so maybe I don't want them.

Maybe I'll just get a pair of Timbs and cut them. And then I'll put a little piece of cloth above them and just glue them to the shoe. You're a designer. Yeah. Are you thinking about having a show? Holy shit. Oh, my God. I might have to have a show.

Look, you're into fashion fashion. Yeah. Fashion fashion. What is that called? Fashionista? Yeah. Well, you'd be isto, I believe. Welcome to the fashion world. Right now you're just a Maxinista. What's that call? Fashionista? Yeah. Well, you'd be isto, I believe. Well, I'm not.

Welcome to the fashion world. Right now, you're just a Maxinista. What's that mean? DJ Max. Bro, he looks so cool. That's all right. Could you imagine looking as cool as you? Boom.

Great fit. That's all right. See, that looks sweet. What's that say? That's all right. That looks sweet. That's a cool coat. What's that say?

That looks sweet. For better or for worse. Don't tread on me. See, these are all standard outfits that you would wear in public. Now, if you're sitting on a bar like that, you're probably pretty boozed up. But you could see that out in public. Yeah, and he's trying to explain his feelings in this one as well, I think. Long night at the bar, kind of feeling alone.

Where's my quarterback? I love my legs. They make me a lot of money. Shout out to my knees. I'm hugging them. Let's get to a break. More fashion talk on the other side. Happy that Chase is involved though. Happy that.

Yeah. I would like Chase to become very good at football. Not gonna happen. He was so good his rookie year. Whoa. This is what he wanted to do. He wanted to take pictures. He's a great pitcher. You're like McIntyre right now

straight and far you weren't taking Paris week photos with a bag over your head when you were catching balls from Ben Roethlisberger we can find three photos of him molesting somebody within the last what two years yeah two years

I don't think that exists. We ain't going to find it. We're going to find a lot of these, though. He had so much. Holy shirt. His rookie year, he was. He had so much potential. Like 11 touchdowns, 900 yards.

Look how big and strong and fast he is, man. Bro. Rookie of the year, like finalist for most. And Stephon Diggs. I appreciate that he's into fashion fashion. Like actually into fashion fashion. And he looks cool. He's also like one of the greatest wide receivers in the game. Really good.

Yes. He made it first. He's a guy. Chase has the potential to do that. Maybe he'll get into fashion and content and be a mask, which we assume he will. Good personality. Very handsome. Everything like that. But god damn it, the NFL

would be better if Chase Claypool was playing great football like he could play all the time. We just hope that that comes with the new outfits from Louis Vuitton. In the Chicago market, nonetheless. A lot of fashion over there. Good luck, Big Zeke. Thank you.

Oh, Zeke. I thought you meant Zeke Elliott. He signed with Chicago. Alright, let's get with Chicago. Okay. That's crazy. All right, let's get to a break. I'll be exact. We have Tom Segura joining us in about 10 minutes, AJ.

Yeah. Yes. Awesome. Very excited for this. New special coming out, right? Yep. July 4th, called Sledgehammer. The-

Referencing his dong, he said. Oh, talking about his penis. Yes. Okay, sweet. This sports show is getting awesome. Yesterday, we had- Has he flop walked around on stage I be sweet. I think he breaks shit with it like on get all they smash the hammers with Damian. Yeah

Rest all peace to Gallagher Brother still do recently as brother kind of stole his bit. Holy shit rest in peace. I didn't know that Thank Gallagher's be out and dead for when did he die? Not like when Sun Tzu died, but certainly it's been a little bit. Yeah. I think. I think it's been a little bit. RIP, Sun Tzu.

2022, only last year. Oh, man. Really? It feels like forever when Gallagher's gone. I thought he died in like 95. God damn. Ty, don't be disgusting, please. Well, I I just you know

Gallagher died on November 11, 2022 Of hospice care at a 7 Palm Desert The cause of death was organ failure from numerous heart attacks He was 76 He's done good Gallagher He was a comedian Why do you park on driveway In drive on a parkway

That's not Jerry Seinfeld That sounded like him a little bit But Gallagher had actual comedy bits, and then everybody just remembered him for fucking smashing the shit out of watermelons. Like Big Mike. That was actually a pretty spot-on Gallagher impersonation. Thank you, bro. I've seen the Gallagher.

I've watched him. His entire act is right in my vein of hell yeah. Have you seen a watermelon get smashed? Well, Mike McCarthy did it last year. Ross Chastain over the weekend. Yeah, because he won. Congrats to a friend of the program, Ross, winning something. Some people do it with their legs and get turned on. Sidney Crosby did that, I think,

with his big quads that Conor Bedard got. Let's get to a break. We had Mike Gallagher, a UFO oversight committee member, on the show yesterday in 2 o'clock hour. That's right. This time, Tom Segura.

2 o'clock's becoming awesome. Yeah. And they're both taking down China. A little happy hour. I don't know if Tom's doing anything against China, but I do know the Chai Coms. Yep. Watch out. That's a real adversary of him.

That's right. Yeah, it is. I was kind of scared yesterday after all he was talking about Chai Coms. After we got to talk to him afterwards off air, I'll tell you what he was not done talking about the threat that chat comms have over the United States of America. Do not take these chat comms lightly. Nope. Hey, I learned a lot yesterday, bro.

We got some tricks up our sleeves. I know what you were. We got some power. We do. That's what he said. Yep. Yeah. I can't reveal this.

Yeah, if he does, he does. He didn't tell Tony anything. That was like confidential or off the record. I don't think he looked at Tony and thought, that's the guy. Yeah, they won't tell. That's the guy. We didn't tell tone anything that was like confidential or off the record i don't think he looked at tone and thought that's the guy yeah that's the guy i didn't tell but the way he was talking and yet certainly on here i guess that is his whole thing is like the china situation that's his main focus priority for marine intelligence in there and everything but the shit he was saying is like don't you think more humans should hear that? They should, yeah.

And why it matters? That's what he's trying to do. That's why he came on the show. He wants to spread the word, right? I know. I should have asked better questions. No.

He talked about everything. He asked a lot of good questions. I feel like we talked good about aliens. Oh, yeah. It's going to air at 51. Two weeks? Three weeks?

Hopefully the chat comms don't get him first. They ain't getting him. What about John Cena? I mean, that is someone who... Yeah, what about Cena? Jeez. I'm waiting on the message to me from the people, you know? Yes.

Hey, what was that all about? Not only was he on the show, he was in studio for an hour. Yeah, I was sitting on your stage. You saw him. It wasn't like he... Oh, I didn't even notice. I had no idea what he was wearing. What are you talking about?

Wait, that was John on his... Oh, maybe not. On his shirt him. It wasn't like he... Oh, I didn't even notice. I had no idea what he was wearing. What are you talking about? Wait, that was John on his... Oh, maybe not. On his shirt? Maybe it wasn't John. Yeah, I didn't even... I thought it was someone else. I thought it was Kim. Yeah, I guess so. Well, you're right. Mouth of Dom. Yeah. Deep fake. It was him. Hey, hi. There it is. We saw Mission Impossible last night.

So fucking good. Let's get to a break. I'm sure you stayed the whole time. I did not get to see the end. Nope. Of that two-hour and 40-minute movie. It's great. Oh, really? Yeah.

Come on. Tom's making like 15 of them. Why is it so long? It's part one, too, so the ending isn't even the end. Nope. It's an alley-oop to the other one. Yeah, beginning of the end. So I missed out on 40, 45 minutes of the middle.

Which was the best part. You just had to call it? You just had to get out of there? Yeah, my wife and I looked at each other and just kind of said, all right, all right. It was time. I get it. Him jumping off the cliff is even fucking cooler.

It is. It is. I mean, I wish you would have stayed because there were a couple times where I just couldn't contain doing that. It was incredible. Yes. We'll talk about it after Tom

Scorer. A lot of clapping. We did give a standing ovation. How many people were there until the end? Everyone. No way. Just you guys. No way. Even the loudest eater of all time that was in there? Everyone. Yeah. No way. Yeah, everyone. Just you guys. No way. Yeah, actually. Even the loudest eater of all time that was in there?

Yeah. Oh, he stayed. Oh, yeah. Thank God he ran out of food, though. Jesus Christ. I almost lost it in there. You know what I mean? Who?

Who was it? I don't know. Some guy. Just a straight-up wrap. Coat-tailing. I mean, he was just... I almost lost my mind. It was absurd.

What was he eating? Wood. Everything. Everything. It was absurd. What was he eating? Wood. Everything. It sounded like. Speaking of dogs who are different, ladies and gentlemen, a man that actually won on a stand-up comedy tour and did 4,000 shows in a 150-day period. Jeez. Remember that? Oh, yeah.

I'm coming everywhere, he said. He was coming all over the place multiple times. Same city, same night worked himself into the best shape that we've ever seen this man and on fourth of july he has yet another special coming to netflix called sledgehammer ladies and gentlemen one of the funniest humans to ever exist tom score what's up tom how are you how you doing man hey we had to clear some shit up there real quick before we got to bring you in. Thank you for making time on such short notice.

As soon as we saw that you were dropping another special, we got pumped, texted you. Let's go. Sledgehammer's about your dong, I heard. It is a reference to my dick. It is a reference to my dick. It's basically that it is pretty big compared to my son's. That's the special that's going on Netflix. Yeah, that's the premise.

That's the premise of the special. My dick is way bigger than a six-year-old's. Hey, well, congratulations. Let's go. Thank you, man. Thank you very much. Hey, no problem. AJ's seen it.

AJ's seen your dick? He came to LA. He came to my house in LA. He was like, let me see it. I want to see what I'm dealing with. He told me would aj say that obviously i don't think aj aj you didn't see a six-year-old's actually well uh his wife was actually changing you had one kid at the time so maybe i have i don't know yeah tom's not lying tom's got a hog on him okay nice compliment there oh there we go that's the president of oh right there. Tom's going to... Whenever you do a special.

When you do a special. And what number is this for you now? This is number five. Okay. So people talk about the creation and the art behind it and everything like that and inspiration. And back in the day, I think you used to tour something, right? And then you film one and then you try to sell it. And everybody had different times.

And I think, was it bill burr louis ck who was doing one every single fucking year it was like a new space louis was doing that louis was doing that for a minute yeah it's crazy and they're talking about that being absolute insanity what how many do they how long does it normally take to make a special one for you for this one for your fifth one how long did you piece this thing together i think like the normal the normal thing if you're touring all the time is to do one every couple of years. Um, every year is bananas, but every two years, it's like, it's, it's pretty feasible to like, come up with it, start touring, uh, tour for a while, shoot it.

And then you get to put it out, you know, in like a two year window. This one, because of COVID, was three years. And I think, I feel like I learned something in this tour, which is that taking a little bit longer is actually way better for your craft. Like, I think it's a much better special having taken longer to put together. Why? Because you learn things about jokes or different ways to do stories or what?

You just realize that by touring longer with it, like the material just gets tighter. It gets better. You, you, cause when you tour more and more, you end up going like, Oh, what if I tried this? And then if you, if you record too early, you never get to that point. So I feel like it was actually to my benefit that we had this. I think that's one of the great things about the pandemic is that it made my special better. Okay, shout out to COVID.

Shout out to COVID. Go ahead, AJ. Shout out to COVID. Shout out to vaccines. What's up? Hey, Aaron's not on, right? Yeah, right. Listen, I've been in every single conversation

in that particular line of work. I mean, that was a wild two, three years there. I'd say. Holy fuck, Tom. Tom, I was getting cooked in every language particular line of work i mean that was a wild two three years there i'd say holy fuck tom tom i was getting cooked in every language because i'm the not jocked guy that's giving the platform to a guy who's murdering people by saying he will not take the vaccine that was a wild time go ahead aj tom when you're when you see all these young comics i feel like because of the internet and podcasting there's comedy is everywhere do you would you ever watch some young comics or say some people are trying it out and

realize hey this this guy or this guy was awful and they will never be good and they should quit you ever you ever give anybody that advice yeah i mean i i i think it i don't tell them you can't tell somebody i mean like i don't think so is it somewhere like hey that person has something they could eventually make have one or two funny jokes or is it sometimes where you know hey there's no chance you see the potential all the time you know i don't know if i don't know how how much of the parallel exists for athletics like i know you got i mean you could probably see somebody where you're like look at this dude's frame you know if he if he trains if he gets, if his technique were improved, if he were to really commit himself, maybe go to the next level in, in comedy, it's, it's, it's weird, man, because you can see somebody and you're like,

wow, this person there's, there's something about this person. They haven't like developed their, their, who they are yet on stage, but you, you see something special inside of them. And what really screws it up for them usually is if they just kind of get off the path, you know? So maybe that is a parallel to, to sports. Like if you get off the path, meaning like they just stop, they don't work hard enough at it that they're just never going to develop. You absolutely see dog shit though, too, where you're just like, you should, you should learn how to fucking change tires like

this is not gonna be for you um but you know how you gonna you can't go up to tell somebody be like yo you suck yeah i don't know do you tell people that in in football though like do you go like nah man this ain't gonna work out so i don't know pac-man just said yeah like he will tell what's up hey Did you tell your dad that I fucking love him? I like that. By the way, this is one of the highlights of my life.

A friend of mine is the person who went up to Pac-Man and asked for an autograph after a loss. A loss. That was definitely not his fault, but it was a loss, and he had the best story about asking for an autograph.

And then he said, my dad loves you. Eventually he told you my dad and then you said to tell that motherfucker i appreciate him and that's and the people people you don't understand man i go i go to like uh the airport bar and i'll be like yeah can i get a a beer and they go sure and then they put the beer and they're like hey motherfucker i appreciate you i'm like what and they're like it's pac-man i still reference pac-man all the time yeah i remember that story it was in the tunnel i think right as you're leaving after a loss somebody asked you for an autograph from this person's standpoint and obviously people have never lied about interactions

with people before but never never that has never happened never in this particular case what did you say whenever what did he say whenever the uh asked initially for the i said no i was like fuck no we just lost it then he said something about his dad said i was his favorite player and i was like tell the motherfucker i said thank you yeah super mad super mad but grateful you know that's the depth that you could potentially go there you also speak spanish obviously so we're going to assume that a spanish special is coming to netflix as well or is this well it was it was uh the whole thing was i was supposed to shoot a spanish special at the end of 2020 but then shout out to coven again it it really derailed the possibility so i was touring i was doing a tour in spanish i did like you know i was i did shows

in dallas and Austin, Tempe. I had put this run together. And because at first they were like, hey, just go shoot. Go shoot your special in Spanish. I was like, I think I should run it a few times. So I was just building up that hour in Spanish. And then because touring got derailed, it just kind of screwed up the, you know, you need the reps. And then by the time it came back, I was like, you know, I got to get back to this English speaking shit because this shit actually pays. So I put it off.

But I did do something cool. When I did when I was on tour, I did do Argentina. I went to Chile and Mexico City. And I did the hour in English. And then I closed each of those sets with like 20, 30 minutes in Spanish. Here we go. Yeah, I was able to do that. Hey, that's a weapon, Tom, obviously. Whenever we learn that about you, because I think your mom, right?

My mom's from Peru. My mom's from Peru. There it is. When I learned that, I'm like, what a weapon, dude. Dude, you want to see a weapon? hey you are in great shape and when you came and did the coming everywhere tour you're an indian i think that was like maybe show 90 of 4 000 to 5 000 whatever it was yeah and you were focusing on your health and sleep and everything like trying to survive almost the tour which yeah you're still in

incredible shape your arm huh try to quit on you that's the arm dude that's the arm bro that's the one that tried to fucking sabotage my life but it's it's um yeah it's yeah look there you can see the scar they see like look at that scar hell yeah you know what i do you know what what happens when when people come up to me and they're like, I'll be like, what's that scar from? I always tell them two tours, Afghanistan. And then they just kind of, they go respect, you know? Um,

yeah, you're not asking for any like free coffee or meal. So it's not like stolen valor. It's just kind of like, uh, no, it's just a story about my scar. It's a fucking IED.

I was coming over a hill and I, I didn't leave my brothers there. I went back and I got, yeah. Well, thank you for doing that. Yeah, you're welcome. And those people, on their way out of there, they don't know your exact name or what branch of the military you're in.

Nope. But they know, you know what? No. Heroes still fucking are walking amongst us. That's right. Yeah, they go, we met a real live hero today. Rambo just walked through the fucking terminal. Instead, though, the actual story is, oh, did you beat that weatherman?

I didn't get to see the full video. Bro, you got to see. The video is amazing. Yes, I did beat him. But it is hilarious. It is hilarious in that it was, I made the mistake, and I say a huge mistake, by playing to 21 instead of 11. Oh, no way.

That's the move. That's the move. Bro, we played to 21, and I'm not kidding you. We had a halftime. We needed a halftime. I think we were about to have like a fucking – like a cardiac incident at the game. But I was up 20 to i think it was 11. so i was

like oh this you know i'm about to just score and this dude you can we have it on video he starts doing like like like this and it's all going in and the ref the ref goes i don't know what religion he is but i need to start praying to this guy. He ended up scoring like seven in a row, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to lose to the weatherman. I was ready to stand in front of a bus. It would have been the last thing I ever did. Okay, so like last time you played basketball,

you try to dunk, your arm commits treason. You end up in a hospital in six months trying to figure out your whole life with a knee. Then the next time you play basketball, Weatherman literally just teabags your entire thing. At game point, comes back and you end up in front of a bus. Those are two very bad outcomes from one sport. You would have to stop basketball forever, I think. Instead, look at you. You beat the fucking Weatherman.

He was getting all the God's helps. All the Dopplers were reading just fine And what you do I buried it Don't ever trust the internet I looked up this dude I was like how tall is this motherfucker Before we play basketball And it says 5'7

He showed up He's 6'2 I've been betrayed. Connor has a question for you, Tom. Yeah, Tom, you wrote a book. You're doing another tour. You've got another stand-up special coming out. What is next?

Because we actually saw The Machine. We were big fans of it. Not everyone on the Internet was. Have you thought about possibly doing some sort of movie either writing one or making it kind of based on your own life uh i haven't thought of doing one on my own life i actually have uh well i have two movies um cooks right cooking right now one is with burt um and that is uh uh at legendary it's called fat astronauts and that is um so that's a movie that i hope to be making with burke kreischer and then there's another one that is a um an action comedy that i'm uh

currently talking to a few people about but it's um it's not based on my life but it is like a fun action comedy wow look at you big movie star big movie yeah star. You and Kevin Hart? We'll see. You and Kevin Hart? Do I know him? Yeah, he's a famous guy. No, I'm saying you and Kevin Hart. You're going to take over the rock floor, and you and Kevin Hart will do that together. Dude, I would love to. Kevin's an inspiration for sure, man.

So you do want to get into movies pretty heavily here, it feels like. Yes, I do. I've always liked features, um i like movies the most i mean i have a television thing that i that i sold so that's uh i i shot actually my own pilot instead of pitching it i went i financed it i shot it and so we sold that and so i'll be hopefully working on that series pretty soon congratulations man keep going thanks because like i understand that everybody kind of like looks it in that –

I mean, that Comedy Mothership down there in Austin seems to be the greatest place. Have you been yet? Have you come down there yet? Bro, I follow it on the internet. It's wild, dude. It is like a – he made like a playground that is what you would dream about if you if you're a stand-up and you just go there every night and it's just packed and the crowds are enthusiastic and like excited to be there and and uh yeah that was just um it's it's wild that i get to to do that whenever i'm in austin what was it the comedy store in la used to do that, right? Wasn't that like comedy? Yeah, yeah. Comedy Store was the best, man.

It was so cool. He just, he basically duplicated the energy, which is kind of impossible to do, but he like the environment feels like that, but he designed it for the comedian. So like you walk in the back and there's a tunnel. So you don't have to walk through crowds. You just can like walk right onto the stage

and right to the green room. You don't have to interact. You don't have to run into run into people it's all it's like all designed for the comedian experience and then the audience has you know just the best times there it's it's been it's an amazing place yeah it looked amazing i mean there was like chapelle ron white rogan you i think are up in the same night and like damn just one night in Austin. It's like, what the fuck? That's just, people are, it's yeah. People want to go like the comics want to perform there. And it's been just,

it's been a dream, man. It's like, it's so cool that he's so rich that he can just do that for fun. Yeah. Speaking of being very rich tone is a question for you, Tom, you're rich now too.

And I think you have enough money for this. Um, you have any dreams or aspirations to go to space now or the bottom of the ocean anything like that yeah you know it's funny i am i'm a huge fan of aviation i um i've been like taking flying lessons but like with space the one thing we like they never tell you about masturbating in space or more like you know know, like they tell you that like, if you piss, it'll like drift away. But they're like, what about like getting hard and jerk? And I've,

I've petitioned Elon to send me to space to just bust a nut, like just to jerk off once, just so that we can like, science, science, science. Yeah. And, and he's been completely unresponsive and he blocks people i think i don't know what that's all about i remember everything darth brooks did obviously there was you asked he blocked me god no shit i mean that was all right i mean that was the expected outcome dude do you know what he do you know what okay, do you know what? Okay. I saw somebody two weeks ago who is like, I have a close friend that is close to Garth. And he said that whenever Garth Brooks is asked, hey, what's up with this?

Like Tom Segura saying that you're a serial killer, that Garth Brooks pulls up the video of me breaking my arm, dunking, and goes, Karma. I love that. I enjoy that you got to beef with this guy. Yeah. You know, Gaines is coming back. Five albums. Five albums.

Is there a more clear depiction of a sociopathic mind than that guy saying he's going to make five albums as this absolute creation of his that is the Australian person who sings love ballads and lost their parents and is sexy and he does still photos with his cheeks sucked in like

I mean this reminds me of every like the John Wayne Gacy tapes documentary on Netflix. Water the Viable, Man of the Year. Look, all I'm saying is I have only said that I am repeating what has been alleged, which is that Garth's tours have lined up with dozens of missing people. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying anything else. Bro, he's selling.

Now, that's Gaines on the right and Garth on the left. Garth, actual human from Oklahoma. Chris Gaines is this creation that Tom Segura just laid out much better than I ever could. I have not done enough research. Guy on the left sells out stadiums, okay? Guy on the right. Guy on the left also doesn't feel emotions. Look into those eyes.

Look into those eyes. When did it start? Did he sell out four stadiums in the town you're in? You're like, what is this? He sold out Lucas Oil Stadium, I think, five times in one weekend. Yeah. It is bonkers. It is.

His draw, you know, his draw as a artist is unbelievable and i actually i have nothing but respect for it i just want answers i want answers for like people are like where's my grandmother like they don't even know that you never came home from your show like that's something to talk about allegedly allegedly we allegedly yeah legend make sure you say i've been actually in uh i have been sued before for some jokes that have been yeah you have aj has a question for you tom tom you mentioned elon elon versus zuck you think that fight actually happens and are you gonna go who do you think wins i didn't i thought definitely this is not happening um i thought it was totally a joke.

And then I've seen the thing evolve and them keep saying that they're going to do it. I actually am more inclined to believe that it's going to happen. I would definitely attend. And I'll say this. I think you know this from being athletes, man. And trained versus untrained is a silly thing to get into. And if what I've heard is true, I'll preface it with that, which is that Zuck has been doing jiu-jitsu for a while

and does it all the time, even with the significant size advantage being with Elon. Look, I don't know how far along Zuck is in jiu-jitsu. He's winning awards. He's winning gold and silver, gi, non-gi. He actually lost one of these things, and allegedly, allegedly, this is being alleged, Zuck told the ref, nah, redo this. And they redid it, and he went.

Allegedly, he felt like he got fucked. I don't know if you've ever seen a trained guy fuck with somebody who doesn't train. And it's very ugly, and it's very quick. Dude, double arm bar somebody put me in. I got both of my arms broken. One guy. And you're an athlete, dude. And it wasn't a jujitsu black belt, I don't think.

This guy was just, he does have some sort of belt in the particular thing. Here's Zuck training, I believe, with Lex Friedman, tapped him out a thousand times. But yeah, I got tapped. They put six times, I think think in one minute i tapped

out and it ended with a double arm bar both my arms broken and i was like i can't even tap i don't even know what to do right yeah i think if that so i think if that if the case really is that he is training this much and has been then even the because elon has a big size advantage it doesn't it doesn't really matter it really doesn't matter at that point. It really would be game over quick. The same thing, like, you know, if you ever box and then you step into a ring with someone who has boxed a bunch, it's fucking – it's terrifying. It really, like, it wakes you. You're like, oh, my God. It's a two-different world.

Now, if they were both untrained i i probably would give the advantage just based on i mean elon's significantly bigger and a troll but and a troll he's like he you know seemingly has my games for all that you know he's like yeah i have a billion dollars when we do i'm gonna create a fucking flamethrower okay he's a he's a way better shit talker i mean he's more fun at the at the the pre-fight press conference is going to be all elon for sure um but but yeah just have those flip-flops probably might do the murph yeah yeah just do that and zuck would just be like do you ask questions are you alive dude you ask questions about anybody else other than garth like zuck or any of these other people that might be robots or aliens in our world? There's no way Zuck is a human being.

That's the only thing that's not going to be fair in this. But, yeah. No, I don't know. I stay away from those guys. Those guys are scary, dude. Garth, you've directed your full attention to Garth Brooks and the bodies. Like, hey, what's going on around here? What a hero.

I'm trying to do it. I'm doing it for society. I'm doing it for society. I'm doing it for all of us. We thank you, Tom. You and your sledgehammer really doing some stuff. Send me the space to come, Elon. I don't know if he's going to hear this. Ty has a question for you, Tom.

Tom, all your fans know you are a massive, massive WWE fan. I didn't know if you knew today is the, I think it's the 24-year anniversary of The Undertaker versus Mankind. He threw him off the cage. I'm just curious, is that like a national holiday in your house? Is there anything you're going to do to celebrate today? Or what do you think about that? Sorry, they're just backing in the cake.

We're doing a huge celebration. Okay. Yeah. Do you know that i went to undertaker's house what did i do that no way dude this is so surreal to me so i'm building this gym because i'm obviously very committed to fitness and i the people that are are putting the gym together are like do you want this piece of equipment? Right?

Because I'm picking things and I go, I don't know, I've never used that. And I go, is there any way I could try it before I say I want to buy it? And they go, yeah, we could, you know what? We have a client that you can just go to, they say you can go to his house and he'll let you try it. Just like that.

And I go, okay. So then they're like, we'll be on a group text. And I go, okay. So then they send me a group text and i go okay so they send me this group text and they go hey tom this is mark uh he has the equipment you can go to his house and then try it out and i was like what's up mark uh like you know like is thursday cool he's like yeah absolutely come on by and then the guy from the gym, he jumps on another text. He goes, hey, just so you know, Mark is the undertaker. And I go, do you want to fucking lead with that? He's like, I'm talking to the undertaker in this text.

And they're like, yeah, he's super cool. I go, okay. So I drive out to this address, and I just pull up to this house and there's shit under construction. And I see this fucking gorilla walks out from under this thing and he just waves over. He's like, hey, over here. And I was like, what's up, Mark? And he goes, hi, it is an absolute pleasure to meet you. And I was like, are you sure?

And he's like, yeah. And he could not have been, I mean, I'm not exactly, he is the nicest dude that I have ever met. Took me through his gym. We tried all, and then he's referencing, like, he has these jerseys and like photos about like you know athletes that he's huge fans of tells me like full stories about all of them and we start going over his whole career and i'm just like dude i'm the i love wwe i love this

so much and he was like he's like really i go yeah i go you definitely don't know that i don't so i'm going to say that i do and then then he – yeah, I left, and then I thanked him, and then he sent me like another – like a full paragraph, like gracious, thanks for coming over and trying his shit out. Good guy. I was just blown away. I mean it was like – it was a wild experience well you need to know this like he also may be one of the greatest partiers of all time they said he

used to really oh yeah like rock because they're on the road you know they were on the road so much back in the day especially and he was always up so basically everybody wanted to see the undertaker so he's a part of every show there is legendary tales of Undertaker drinking motherfuckers to sleep, just like rock stars, bands. He told me because we were talking about our tours. He told me. He's like, yeah, because I was telling him, you know, we do two shows a night a lot of times.

He goes, yeah. He goes, you know, we used to do two a night. And I was like, what? And he goes, yeah, you know, so all that banging and just like full thing, two in a night. And he goes, that's when I knew I was like, what? And he goes, yeah, you know, so all that banging and just like full thing, two in a night. And he goes, that's when I knew I had juice. It was when I was like up for like a renewal. And I was like, hey, no more two nights.

Like I'm a one show a night guy. But now he's had like 17 surgeries or some shit. Oh, yeah. And he is that one man show now. He's doing like stand up. I don't know if you know that. He might actually reach out. You should probably reach out to Mark and say,

hey, you ever want to talk about a little stand-up? We'll do that. Look at that. You guys can become even tighter than you ever did. He would do those two nights, and then he would go shut down like three bars. And then do it again the next night. Absolute fucking dog.

Speaking of, Pac-Man has a question for you, Tom. Hey, Tom. We had the congressman on here yesterday talking about these, what are they? UFOs. UFO aliens. What are your take on this? Have you seen anything in your backyard? Your backyard looked fucking crazy back then.

What do you think about that? Well, okay. I was always, always, always a dismissive of all that shit. Like UFO, I'm like, that's great. Enjoy yourself. I did not give it any credibility whatsoever until I would say in the last, not just the last year, but I would say in the last few months, more so than ever, where people are not only coming up with verified things, but we're also getting, you know, the US government, Pentagon, there's whistleblowers that are looking to actually leave government

positions so that they could say even more about what they know and what they've seen. so that they could say even more about what they know and what they've seen. They're confirming that we have aircraft, that we actually have bodies, like alien bodies intact. The whole narrative of the fact that the technological boom is consistent with when UFOs first allegedly landed in Roswell. You look at fiber optics, the way that technology has evolved since then, aircraft that you would not even ever dream of conceiving of because we didn't conceive of, the fact that it's actually a build of something

that we have seen them have and that we actually go like, so when all these stories start to come out more and more, the story was super compelling. You watch the body cam of the Las Vegas officer sees it. And then the kid calls and he's like, yo, this thing is eight feet tall. And it doesn't actually sound like a drunk fabricated, like lunatic. And you see the actual image of what landed in his yard still there. All those things have made me think more that this is more plausible.

And I also feel like you have any conception of the size of the universe, you're out of your mind to think that we are the only living beings in this universe. It's crazy. So I would say that, uh, I've become much more interested in, in this idea, uh,

since the last few months, I think a lot of us have gone. I've obviously always been a moon watcher, you know, at night I'm looking up, Oh, a lot of room up there. There's a lot of stuff up there.

You know what I mean? And it's like, you just start thinking and I've always, a lot of room up there. There's a lot of stuff up there. You know what I mean? And it's like you just start thinking, and I've always been a pretty open-minded person, and you hear some people tell a story, and you're like, ah, why would that person lie to me? Why would that person lie to me about it? Unless they're just trying to get attention or clout.

That's an interesting thing. And then it just seems like too many people are saying it, and then now it feels like it's almost like it's abnormal if you don't believe that something is potentially out there. Think about their sledgehammers when they show up. Oh, wow. If they're 8 to 10 feet tall, I mean. That's not real.

There it is. That one is not real. But that is allegedly what it looked like. They did a sketch, you know, from the kid's memory. You know what I mean? Able to find serial killers, able to find people that steal things. And also a large, oversized eyes. Put them in.

Ears wrapped behind the backs of their heads and shit. Like, yeah. Frozen. Big dicks. Huge dicks. And that guy at that conference breathing out of his ears. Yeah. I mean, there's been so much shit, Tom.

It's only a matter of time. I can't wait to see what sports they play. You know, I can't wait for us to cover what sports they play. If they come into the NFL, hey, we need to institute the headhunting rules again. You know what I mean? What do you think? God. By the way, are they going to finally honor that guy, that D coordinator,

the one who was like, hunt for their heads? Break their fucking heads. He's in the NFL. He's back. He's back. Yeah, he's back. Everybody just... Salute you, sir.

That is the message. I mean, come on. You play defense, AJ, Pac-Man. It's like a coach that's like, let's try to cripple these motherfuckers. That's who you want to play for. That's the coach that I go, I'm going to fucking sacrifice myself for this guy.

The message should be be eliminate the enemy and i i i just i just feel like they should they should do a special uh hall of fame induction that is unbelievable good aj last question here for tom we appreciate it tom getting back to the alien situation, I understand I'm very open-minded as well, but how come every time it is the moment where we need to film these beings, everyone forgets how to use their camera phone and they drop and they're filming the sidewalk and just noise and they're

just yelling. What's going on? I mean, I feel like this is a lot like when people go, hey, how come you didn't pull out your gun and you weren't able to aim straight when the alleged intruder came? Because I think people are in such a state of heightened panic when this is happening that they don't go like, oh, hold on a second. Could you stand right there? Let me get the light.

Like it's just it makes sense that that's happening now the other thing that was like crazy as from this vegas kid was that he said that when he looked over in that area his vision became affected almost like the alien had the the ability to camouflage itself so i think if you are seeing you know a being from another world land in front of you you're probably not like oh let me get my tiktok open real quick we need more people to be like yes yeah i think i know you do but i think you're probably just like i'm i think i'm gonna die or something and so it's just like it's so much panic that yeah now look obviously anybody who's super skeptical and i have been like i said my whole life uh you you do want like

the better footage but we are seeing pretty compelling footage of aircraft i mean there's a lot of it is flown by that that they're like you hear the pilots go the fuck was that like they've never seen anything like it mike gallagher is the congressman he's one of the chairs of uh the war on china so he has somehow now, in the War on China, has taken over the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Committee as well. Because the answer for some of those videos, like the Tic Tac video and some of the other ones that we can't describe, they say, well, maybe it's a foreign adversary that has that technology.

In my eyes, it's somebody that's always been like, I've got to be an alien, it's like if China has that and we don't, we're fucked. Our Top Gun pilots, to your point, are seeing these things going, what the fuck? These are our greatest pilots. And they're like, that's like 10,000 Gs. So if China has

that, or Russia or somebody that doesn't like us, I guess Iran, whoever doesn't like us has it. And we don't, that's scary as fuck too. It's like, so he has kind of put himself into it. Like,

can we find out if this is China? And if it's not China, we should also find out what it is. I think we're going to get answers, Tom. I think we're going to, yeah, I think we're going to have real problems with China.

Um, no, no, no, no, no, it's China. Uh, maybe maybe i mean no that's that's it that's all right let's it's our mortal enemy listen um pat aj pac-man you are invited

anytime you allow me to fly you to austin i would love to have you guys in Austin whenever you want. I would love to have you there. You come as a group. You come individually. It's not a charter, Pat. I know how you're used to traveling. It's a commercial flight, but it's on me whenever you want. The invite is there.

All right, we'll take the amount of money for the first-class tickets for all of us in a pool, and then we'll utilize that for us getting down there in an efficient fashion i love it we love you i love it july 4th sledgehammer let's go usa baby usa let's go hell yeah dude how long special this is an hour special i i did that on purpose i tightened it i i cut out about 12 minutes at netflix let me keep what i cut out and they're letting me post it so i cut it out just to make it a tight 60 and um yeah it's uh it's a lot of fun are we you're in the uh opening montage okay wow it's a big deal i feel like that's a big deal dude i'm pumped it's a big deal you're

there with you're there with like it's a bunch of studs jason momoa came to the show brad pitt pat mcafee mercedes lewis they're all in the montage so like you're in there dude oh my god thank you what an honor ladies and gentlemen yeah no thank you man no thank you thank you hey thank you man fuck you thank you i wish aj thank you, man. Fuck you. Thank you. I wish AJ Hawk would have come to the show, but you know. Brad Pitt can go, but AJ Hawk can't go? Wow. AJ's like, I gotta buy some mulch.

I gotta put some mulch around my new trees and shit. I'm like, alright, dude. So, yeah. Well, he saw your penis one time. That was the angle. Yeah, he already saw a sledgehammer. I get what you're talking about. Ladies and gentlemen, Tom Sierdora. Thank you. Fourth of July.

Go and watch that. Jacked up. He's funny, dude. You saying, who asked him if he just tells these young comics they suck? Oh, you. So, AJ's seen a lot of young comics who suck. That's what we learned. I don't know.

That's what we learned. Comedy is so difficult. That's the thing. There's so many specials being put out. I'm like, it is really tough to make it funny. Oh yeah that's what we like it that's what we love comedy is so difficult that's the thing there's so many specials being put out i'm like it is really tough to make a funny oh that's what happened bobby carpenter asked him to sit and listen to 20 minutes of the jokes he's like how do i go about telling general bob not to do stand-up yeah what do you know i would have i will push bobby on stage me too i've seen him with a microphone in a Tarzan outfit with boots on. He slaughtered him. No underoos either.

He needs to do that. He needs to do that more. I believe we've got J.C. Tretter coming on the show at some point. J.C.? In the next couple days to talk about Lloyd Howe. Let's go. Because they seem to be unanimously behind old Lloyd Howe. Yeah, pushing him big time. So our initial

response and thought is basically bullshit. They're saying, no, no, we like the guy. They're saying we like the guy. Hopefully he'll be able to get some things done. New executive director for the NFLPA, AJ, announced this morning. Yeah, why was everyone kept in the dark for so long? Because they felt like it would

slow the process down if everyone knew? J.C. Tretter announced that this was done confidentially. And we were told yesterday by Ian Rappaport that in the past when names would be made public, they thought there was a chance that the NFL would put their PR machine

behind either burying people they didn't like publicly or potentially pushing people that they knew would not be great or favorable for them in that position. Now, we don't know if either of those things are true, but I believe JC will be joining us here in the next 48 hours. Yeah, they wanted the owner's fingies out of it. Yep.

Which is smart. I do appreciate it. I get it. It makes sense. Yeah, I think that's a smart play if that is the case. Yes. Makes sense, though. Now, middle of summer, everybody checked out.

We're making a pretty massive decision. You know, everybody's probably on the call. Yeah, but, dude, are you in the middle of it? Are you actually paying attention to any of it? But I'm quite sure they have went through the process of elimination to get to this guy. I wouldn't think that it's just, oh, we're going to go with this guy. In the photo, it looked like they were all there. Yeah, right. And they might have

their all the reps. Yeah, all the reps. But like the reps is what matter. Yeah. All right. I hope so. Let's do a good job. Yeah. Who else was up nominated? Who lost? Let's get insurance. Yeah, let's just get a lifetime insurance, Lloyd. All right.

Lloyd. Lloyd. Lloyd. Let's go insurance. Let's just get a lifetime insurance, Lloyd. Lloyd! Lloyd! Lloyd! Let's get Jack in Texas on a 500-pound line. What's going on, Jack, as we wrap up this day? Boys, how you doing, man? Keep moving. What part of Texas, Jack? Flower Mound, North Dallas.

Oh, North Dallas is a movie named 40. North Dallas 40, yeah. That is a movie named 40. North Dallas 40, yeah. That is a movie. Shout out. What do you want to talk about, Jack? I got a question for Tony about the Steelers, but quick, real quick. Connor, that bullet, fucking electric, dude. Texas.

Texas. Texas the mass. That's big. That's big. Every day belongs on a lake. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. What's your question about the Steelers, Jack?

Yeah. So what do you all make of the reports coming out of minicamp that Roderick Jones is nowhere near locking up that blindside tackle spot? Jack. That was a misleading report. Jack, come on, Jack. Misleading report by Kaboli. Whoa.

Shit. Kaboli. Oh, no. Heleading report by Caboli. Whoa. Shit. Caboli. Oh, no. He called Pickens last year. He knew. Caboli's pretty good. Yeah, Caboli knows his shit.

Caboli just said that the inherent, the left tackle from last year isn't going to give up the position so easy and that he was looking good in many camps. And Broderick was. No, no. There was nothing about Broderick. It was just saying, it was There was nothing about Broderick. It was just saying, it was talking about them, and then people took that and made a headline out of it.

Listen, that's, I wouldn't say Cabulls is like, you know, the most whoa positive reporter in the city. Tony. Whoa. He ate a sandwich after that thing had been in his pocket for eight, nine hours. You don't think that's an optimistic fuck? Well, towards some things, yeah. He also played left tackle at Pitt

four-year starter. We just tried to call him. He didn't answer. All right, let's move on. Sam and Phoenix on the 500 phone line. What's going on, Sam? Beautiful city you're in. Hey, how we doing, boys? Keep moving. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Last time I was on, I was kind of toxic and negative,

so I just wanted to bring the positive vibes today. Shout out all you guys. Shout out Hammer Down. Shout out The Pod. I listen to you guys all the time. And just lastly, Pat, just wanted to say, man, your Father's Day little monologue got me right in the feels, man. I lost my pops about 12 years ago,

so your little monologue really got me, man. So just wanted to say appreciate it and love you guys. And that's it, man. I'll keep listening forever. Sam, we appreciate the hell out of you, dude. Thank you for the call. Alright. That was a good one. It was fun to hear. Wow. Sorry about his dad passing, but happy.

You know, you can have a moment there to hopefully reflect and think positively upon it as the rest of the world kind of shoves it in your face about Father's Day. So shout out to Sam Cohen in there. Shout out to Hammer Don. Do you guys still win it or no? I am. Oh, shit. Come on.

Is that why the pizzazz has been on? God damn individual. Oh, okay. He's not talking about the team, huh? Big me, little team. That's interesting. Yeah, I mean, you asked the question. Is Hammer Don winning? Then yes. Okay, but you didn't say that the first time no you implied i'm winning everybody else normally i would ask

you would ask that question and i would say i'm not the fucking dump he is but right now you're saying right now i'm on a little bit of a fucking good streak oh what have you been today first five oh yeah a bunch of first fives, a couple no runs first inning, or first inning ties. Yeah, keep in mind, though, now that Tony has said that, he knows deep down he's golden. I'm not going to win. Gumpy's going to win today.

Yes. Gumpy got publicly dumped on. Yeah. Call him Dumpy like we did the first time we heard his name. Exactly. Because that's what Tony Diggs just did. Tony Diggs took his hat off, dumped in it, and put it on Gumpy's head. That just happened right here.

I was between a rock and a penis there. Is that the P word? Rock and a P word. Before we get out of here, let's talk about Mission Impossible. We got a chance to see it early. Dead Reckoning? Dead Reckoning Part 1. Dead Reckoning Part 1.

A 2 hour and 40 minute flick. Tom Cruise goes out there. I would say I would watch it again after getting a preview. Now, I think I'm going to have to fully understand what the fuck was going on because there were some things that started happening where I'm like, why are we choosing to do this? No way this is what we're actually choosing to do. Then, boom, we actually do it.

Have to be able to suspend reality a little bit. For sure. Do not expect to have to do that because this is Mav. You know, and Mav was actually doing all those things in those planes the last time I seen this son of a bitch. Right. But I will say seem to be a potential real problem that the world has on their hands

in the future. Kind of put a spotlight on that. And Tom certainly looks incredible for a 60-year-old man. Absolutely. These movies are known. A lot of running out of Tom. A lot of running. You like that snow scene in Top Gun Maverick

where he's sprinting through the forest and he tackles Miles and Rooster there. And they have that side shot of him going through the fucking trees. And it's like incredible form running. A lot of that. A lot of that out of old cuz last night these movies are kind of built around like the big action set pieces we all saw the featurette of tom taking the motorcycle off the cliff uh you didn't make it to that part per

se but boy does it pay off i mean whole baby whole baby i mean i knew what to expect going in, and I still could not contain myself. I mean, everyone that was there heard me go, ho, ho, ho, about four or five times in the last 45 minutes to an hour of the movie. It was everything you'd want from a Mission Impossible movie. So everything I missed. Yeah, it was awesome. You left at a very inopportune time. It was a transition period.

How long did you last? Two hours. Two hours. I doubt it. It was like an hour and a half. Hour 40. Hour 40. Yeah, it was like 42 minutes.

No. You definitely made it over an hour. There's a lot of build. A lot of build. You know, like all the questions I had yesterday about this series as a whole, they answered it very meticulously through the first hour. So it was a nice little recap of the whole thing. But it's bananas.

I mean, the shit that's happening there is crazy. Yeah. Absolutely crazy. It had everything. If you're a Mission Impossible fan, it had everything you could ever want in a Mission Impossible movie. And Ty mentioned it. Some of the things that they did in the second half of the film were unbelievable.

Like there wasn't really many portions. And like you said, they do explain it. They do kind of re-explain what the IMF is and those types of things just so you could kind of understand. I feel like a lot of people who might not be huge fans of Mission Impossible could understand. But it was awesome. It delivered as an MI fan.

They knew Mav was going to be such a huge hit that they had to reestablish the story of Mission Impossible at the beginning for all the new people that were coming on just because they saw Top Gun back. Yeah, I actually think that is the case. I'm for sure going to see it again in IMAX just because of how some of the scenes they did, especially, again, in that second half,

the things that the director and that Tom wanted to do that they've talked about, those things on an IMAX screen would be life-changing. Well, congrats to Tom, another banger. Did it again. It was a good movie, AJ. I didn't see the whole thing, but it was a good movie. Is this what he filmed, was filming

when he saved the whole movie industry when he went on that rant? Yes. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, they were supposed to film in Venice and then that was kind of at the height of Italy getting shut down.

He spent 500,000 euro on a decommissioned cruise ship to put the entire crew on while they were waiting. Let's just say some people didn't have their masks on and they weren't standing at least three meters apart and Tom didn't take too kindly to that.

I just want to let everybody know in the movie industry tom cruise at the top of it seems to be a good leader how much longer can this guy do what he does though bro he's running aj he's running like no knee injuries throughout you he's clean we're talking smooth at that age you would think there would be some sort of arthritis or some sort of something. He is clean. We're talking knee drive, arm swing perfectly at full speed. It is phenomenal. How long can this guy go?

I think it's kind of tongue-in-cheek, and we joke about it, but he 1,000% wants to and will die while making a movie. That is how Tom Cruise is going to die. Yeah. Hey, save him. All right. Well, congrats, Tom. He's the only movie star we have left.

The movie comes out July 12th. Yes. And we would all say you should go watch it. Yeah. Absolutely. All right, sweet. Go see it. As long as we're all on the same page, let's get the fuck out of here.

Big shout out to Tom Segura, AQ Shipley, and Bootsy Gross for coming on. NHL draft is this evening. Everybody enjoy the hell out of it. Conor Bedard is the next one. There's going to be some baseball that we can bet on. Tone Diggs will tell us who we need to bet on so we can make some money. This motherfucker's hot. He's rolling.

You ever see fire in the middle of an ice cube? Everything else melts around it. You know what I mean? It becomes the fire, hopefully. That's what Tone is describing the hammered down as right now. He is the fire in the middle of an ice cube, everything else melts around it. You know what I mean? It becomes the fire, hopefully. That's what Tone is describing the hammered down as right now. He is the fire in the middle of the ice cube. Everybody else is about to heat up alongside of him, just strictly from osmosis.

We appreciate you, Tone. Thank you for doing all that. Thank you, Tone. Thank you, Tone. Pac-Man, great work today. Boys, fantastic job. Everybody in the back, great work. We'll be back tomorrow with another big one.

Oh, yeah. Tomorrow's a big show. Massive. I believe we've got Lane Johnson coming on. What? Oh, shit. Yeah, I think they've got that offensive line thing going. That's right.

So we'll have him chit-chatting about that. I just saw him catch a punt at a golf outing. He's a freak athlete. I believe J.C. Tretter should be on here in the next 48 hours to talk about the new NFL PA president. I think there's some baseball stuff. I mean, let's go. Steph Curry.

Steph Curry's on tomorrow. Match. Okay, be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye.