The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 937 - Feel Good Friday With The Match Recap, Mark Schlereth, Kendrick Perkins, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys discuss the NFL/Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce dominating the NBA/Steph Curry and Klay Thompson in last night’s iteration of the match, as well as everything else happening in the sports world as we head into a long 4th of July weekend. Joining the progrum for 69 days until NFL Football is 3x Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, color commentator for the NFL on Fox, Mark Schlereth joins the show to chat about what Russell Wilson needs to do differently this season, how much of an impact Sean Payton will have this year, how jacked Stink is right now, and much more (17:41-50:05). Later, former first round pick of the 2003 NBA Draft, ESPN NBA Analyst, Kendrick Perkins joins the show to chat about The Match, his thoughts on load management, where he’d like to see certain guys go in free agency, and more (1:14:53-1:37:40).Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. Have an incredible and safe 4th of July weekend. We’ll see you on Wednesday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Feel Good Friday. Heading into the 4th of July long-ass weekend, 30-2000-day sports week start time. Feel Good! It's a big weekend. It is a massive weekend. We will be, uh-oh, no. That's way too early for that to be happening. Pong count high. Pong count is high. The AQI is low. The rain helped us out. But today feels to be a day where the vocal cords are getting attacked

on a regular basis. It is fantastic to look ahead here. We'll be off Monday and Tuesday. We do apologize, but, you know, Fourth of July is a time, especially in the summer

when there isn't a lot of sun in a state like Indiana. You might as well take it, enjoy it. Think back to what it was like, what it could be like, where we are now, how much better we can get, and how great it is to be in this particular country. I mean, there's a lot of time to do some reflection,

some inflection, maybe some injecting of booze. And we hope everybody has a fantastic weekend. Last night, the NFL beat the shit out of the NBA. So, racist Kendrick Perkins will come on at 1.20 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. And we will have to give some shots to the shins because that NBA team was minus 260 yesterday. And then they just got swept by Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey,

who did some Mahomes-Komes Kelsey shit on a golf course. Once they get rolling and chirping and dancing. And Travis Kelsey was wearing those really cool shorts. Sweet. So cool. He looks so cool. Yes, he did. I didn't even know those were available from Nike.

He said he was Nike from head to toe. He's a Nike athlete. GQ said, this guy looks good. I thought to myself, yeah, he looks unbelievable. No, I don't think everybody should be wearing those, but Travis Kelsey is a fucking dog. Oh, yeah. We knew Patrick Mahomes was going to be Patrick Mahomes,

burying putts, putting things close. But Travis Kelsey, I don't think anybody expected to be the stick that he was yesterday. We're talking closest to the pin with Steph Curry, who's a plus one handicap in golf involved. He was stroking three irons. Stroking chips. Travis Kelsey was the star of the program yesterday, and we want to let Travis know we appreciate him being a part of it.

I'm not going to say that Patrick Mahomes wasn't electrifying. He was. I fucking love that the next face of the NFL is a guy who has personality, is not scared to be himself, and is an incredibly confident human being, which I would assume the next face of the NFL was going to be regardless. But he's the fucking perfect one for us. He is the man. Just big, he missed a couple short putts at the end.

He said, I just like to make good TV. He said, you're never going to see me blow anybody out. It's always going to be close games. You've got to do it. It's how I operate. And I do believe the way he operates, he's the same exact way that people have talked about Tom Brady, Kobe Bryant, the Mamba mentality. Obviously, rest in peace.

I believe that is why in those close ones, you know, when you really need it, when the moment is at its biggest, this dude seemingly is at his best. Oh, yeah. And I fucking love that we beat the shit out of the NBA. And I say we because I got to ride coattails into the NFL for eight years. And any time you start seeing a little NFL versus NBA, you always want to be on the winning side. I would like to say in the NFL versus NBA golf tournament that I was part of. That's right.

Oh, how'd that go? We also beat them. Oh, that's right. So I would just like to let the NBA know yesterday was an embarrassment for you guys. Big time. That wasn't supposed to happen. No. And I know there's momentum in basketball, and Steph Curry and Klay have certainly shown that on the basketball court.

But once that momentum went into the NFL meatheads way, it was never coming back. No. We're talking about little leaky Travis Kelsey talking to Steph Curry off the drive. There was real shit talk taking place and it felt like the NFL guys broke him. Oh yeah, they did. Absolutely broke him. Now I am incredibly impressed with Steph Curry

the person. Yes. Steph Curry the basketball player. Of course. And also golfer. I saw him chip in literally at Edgewood or whatever and I appreciate him and everything he's about. And Klay Thompson, I know at one time he was part of the Splash Brothers, was just knocking down three. He's a massive piece to the four rings, I believe, that he has.

I did not know he had his own shoes, his own polo. He has all his own gear. I had no idea that was the case. Now, his golf game yesterday wasn't at his best, and obviously I could potentially play much worse than Clay Thompson played yesterday, so I'm not going to judge that. But are we staring down 15, 20 years from now? Another Scottie Pippen-Jordan situation here with Clay Thompson and Steph Curry.

Uh-oh. Are we doing that? That would be wild. Did you hear Draymond? Mm-hmm. Did you hear what Draymond was saying? Draymond was loud. Andaymond was, he was loud. And Steph Curry was like, yeah, you're just getting a look into what our locker room is.

Yeah. So, Klay Thompson, just, you know, incredible basketball player in his own right. So good. And what he's good at, just so happened to have the greatest guy to ever exist in the same exact, like, and then he has a whole shoe line and everything. I had no idea he had that. You know why? Because I believe Steph Curry has all his.

That's right. I had the nurse Currys, the first ones that came out. I mean, I've supported that guy in what he has for his whole time. 15, 20 years, are we worried about that? Or is Clay Thompson just an incredibly cool guy? I think that is the conversation we will have to have with Big Perk. I was incredibly impressed with the NFL guys. As I'm impressed with the guys I get to share the stage with every day.

The talk show table is here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor. And at Boston Connor's mullet, obviously, looking fantastic. Getting real dialed in on how you make that thing look majestic, pal. Yeah, I mean, I appreciate you showing me the ropes with the blow jar because that really has changed the game. The down, up, down, up, I think is kind of the style I've been able to adapt to. And, you know, you get a couple creams. You get some, you know, hairspray.

You get moisturizer. Now, you know, I condition a little more. Usually I was told, hey, only once a week. Now I'm doing twice, three times a week just because I'd like it to look like I wash it all the time. Yeah, those professional wrestlers, they put it in every night. Bingo. Yeah, like before they go out. I thought about doing that today.

But the products themselves, I think, have been doing a great job. I want to let you know, you look fantastic. We're very proud of you. Thank you. And going into a long Fourth of July weekend with that mullet. I mean, happy birthday, America, and that mullet. Yes, absolutely. Summer solstice.

It'll always kick off the kind of two-week mullet run. I think every year now, I've got to go to Nashville. And then right after that, I've got to do July 4th with an American bathing suit. That's just how I have it. So when the last two bachelor parties we were a part of, I think both times we've decided that it's going to be an annual all right, so next year we're going to have Nikki's bachelor party too.

And we're going to do the same group. We're going to do a trip. And next year we're going to do Ziggy's bachelor party too. I do fear that anytime we do anything at this stage of life, we're going to have a real good time. And we're just going to want to repeat it all. That's what we're at.

I don't know if it's going to be able to fit in the schedule, but we got to go to Nashville a lot more. Yeah. And I think that mullet needs to be seen in Nashville a lot more as well. Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, Nashville really is one of one. I know a lot of you guys were comparing it to New Orleans, and I bet that is also unbelievable.

But having a Nashville this close to Indy, I mean, we're kind of idiots and fools if we don't go every year. We don't want to look back in 20 years saying, hey, we lived right next to Nashville and only went once. There was a—I don't know how close it actually was because the wife would have had to get on board with it and everybody else would have. We almost took this show down to Nashvilleashville like uh like three years two

years oh shit three years ago almost like i'm going down to nashville everybody seems to be down there yeah it is a good time and the weather a little bit better than indiana it is in the winter it gets cold so it's cold you still have the seasons you're still chilly in the fall yeah but it's not like brutal no flash freeze like it feels like exactly not getting there yeah exactly so i mean it's a beautiful place we will certainly have to get back at one half of the hammer like brutal. No, flash freeze. Like it feels like, exactly. I'm not getting there. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, it's a beautiful place. We will certainly have to get back. One half of the hammer.

Got it. Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here as well. And Tone, we'll start with you. Massive betting favorite the NBA guys were because of how good

Steph Curry was. And in the way it was set up, Steph Curry could have just handled that on his back if he wanted to. The NFL guys just played so damn good.

It was kind of a slow roll though. There was a moment on the course where I think Travis and Pat were up two and maybe hole four or hole three, and the odds were still the NBA were favorites. Oh, yeah. And Travis Kelsey looked at – he knows. It wasn't just like he was a part of the interaction. Like whenever they said, right now the favorites are still the NBA. And Travis was like

oh really all right travis i think he's one of those uh oh yeah love it you know out of cleveland ohio guys yeah yeah ohio fuck he's gonna do it all that was weird to me because it felt very obvious and maybe they know golf better than me felt very obvious once you see mahomes and kelsey get going they're probably not going to stop for the foreseeable future unless they get too drunk. And I don't think I've ever seen them too drunk. I've seen them pretty drunk, I think, out there. Both of them golfing in Tahoe, sticking thick.

They're gamers. In the NBA, seemingly not. Did we make money off this last night or what happened? We had talked about it a little bit on Hammer Down that in an amateur thing like this, if you were getting the plus to whatever that you were getting, and we were never going to lay the 300 with the NBA because that's just absurd. And I actually feel like I was lied to.

Steph, is Steph supposed to be a good golfer? I was thinking about that. His wife was right there, you know, and that whole thing was happening. But, like, the amount of time that he has to take to golf to get to the point where he is, I thought about, like, all his family and friends being like, this guy's spending how much time in the... If he's not...

I'm watching him golf. A plus one. His setup, his alignment, everything. While he's standing over it, and what we've heard about him golfing, I'm expecting every shot to be very good. The expectation that he's not going to fuck up is a real one.

Nobody else that stepped up to the ball did I feel that way. Nobody. Literally. There's a lot of four, four, four. But when Steph got in there, which is not fair to Steph either. He's not a fucking professional golfer. He's literally one of the greatest basketball players of all time. That probably takes up a lot

of it. But just everything about him in the golf world, every time he stepped over the ball, I'm like, this guy's supposed to hit this thing good. And he looked like a human out there on that golf course, didn't he? Mahomes and Kelsey's, like in that event, I think it's scrambling. Their scrambling was unbelievable. I think it was hole one and two or two and three.

Mahomes had that one chip that was onto the upper level and then rolled down to the next level, like to two feet when Clay and Steph were already on the green. And that happened like two holes in a row. And when they won those or pushed those, I think that kind of broke the NBA's back early and they didn't have the fucking spine to stay in there.

Well, Klay Thompson was just getting murdered. I mean, I couldn't hear and understand everything that Vaughn and Draymond were saying because they were just kind of having their own conversation in the back, and I appreciate that. But I think the things that I was hearing them say, pretty hilarious. Much different, too.

Much different than what was going on. Now, obviously, anytime Charles Barkley has a microphone, awesome. Anytime Broadcasting Hall of Fame inductee Ernie Johnson has a microphone, that is fucking awesome as well. But I think Vaughn, his energy, to your tweet, Vaughn's energy was like, here we go, boys. Oh, my God, it's just a duo. Here we go, boys. That's it. Here we go. And then Draymond's was like, damn, bro.

He's not helping him out at all. I enjoyed Draymond out there. Me too. I enjoyed Draymond out there a lot. I enjoyed Vaughn out there a lot. But to your point, I think because Vaughn was not teammates with Travis and Patrick. So he's not as close. Much different. I assume they are close. It's Vaughn was not teammates with Travis and Patrick. Yeah. So he's not as close. Much different.

I assume they are close. It's Vaughn Miller. He's friends with seemingly everybody. And it's Patrick. Like, I assume they are close. But not, you know. Every day. Yeah.

Yeah. Draymond potentially on his way. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. He might, you know, he kind of wants to go play with LeBron, people are saying. He's visiting Portland with Dame Lillard. Whereas Vaughn Miller, he's just a guy who's there to be Von.

Loves golf. Loves golf, loves football, loves supporting the guys. I mean, every time he's come on here, he's only been positive. I've really never heard a negative word out of him aside from the Supergrass conversation, which makes sense. But also, did you see they caught Von? I don't know what he was smoking. What?

But he was vaping something. Yeah, it was CBD. It was CBD. Exactly. That's why I don't know what he was smoking, but he was vaping something. It was awesome. Yeah, it was CBD. It was CBD. Exactly. That's why I didn't know. He's coming off surgery. Yeah.

That's actually probably his medicine. Nowadays, they have the ability to just put in medicine. So it's like, hey, Vaughn, you're still coming off the ACL. Every four hours, need you to take these two pills. And he's like, no pills. Just put them in a vape form. That's right. Give me a vape.

So it was anti-inflammatory, I think, the first hit. And then he presses a button and the next one's like an Advil. And he presses the button on the next one and it's like, boom. It's like allergies are crazy out here. You feel better. And your knees now. I mean, that's what he was smoking out there. But it did feel,

you know, the way Travis and Patrick were playing. And of course, like Bear out there. Sweet. I thought there was a chance maybe we're going to get a little boozed up out there. Oh, yeah. But I feel like, I feel like Travis and Patrick were very pumped about how they were playing. Like, you know, I think afterwards, they're like, how about us?

Hey. We crushed it. Because there was a couple moments there where, to your point, the NBA could have turned it. Yeah. Steph Curry could have made a putt and could have turned it all. And then for whatever reason, it didn't. And then immediately after it not,

you've got Patrick Mahomes sprinting down the fairway. And Travis Kelsey, ah, screaming about it. It was actually just like two very different mindsets out there that I fucking enjoyed watching us win, especially because... No, I'm not going to say it. Well, you might as well. What's that? Steph Curry's people canceled him on our show.

True, that's right. They canceled him on our show yesterday. Supposed to be on the show yesterday. Now, completely funny. He was not on the show. But he was pitched to be on the show, which we were. Steph Curry wants to be on the show.

That'd be unbelievable. Awesome. Steph Curry probably didn't even know he was coming on the show. No chance. With the way everything operates. You know, the way these things... Now that we're kind of learning the waters. That'd be unbelievable. Awesome. Steph Curry probably didn't even know he was coming on the show. No chance. With the way everything operates. You know, the way these things. Now that we're kind of learning the waters a little bit.

I love it. Jesus. There is so much. It's crazy. To get to. A lot of turbulent ties. And I appreciate a lot of people that are like, keep everybody away from me. I don't want anybody's bullshit.

I respect that. If you're going to be one of the, not just Steph in this particular case, greatest basketball players of all time, and be a plus one handicap in golf, which takes a good amount of time, I assume you don't want to deal with any extra bullshit in your life either. But the way some people are kind of like guarded by like three, four different layers. Firewalls.

I did not know this took place. But they're pitching and we're, hell yeah. Of course. We're going to have to ask about that Sports Illustrated thing though. He's not going to avoid that. We're bummed about that. He's prepared for it. Yeah, he's not happening.

What the fuck? Well, we know who we're pulling for, definitely. Not that I wouldn't have pulled for the NFL last night. Because everybody in here, I don't want to point fingers, but you guys said the NFL last night. Because everybody in here, I don't want to point fingers, but you guys said the NFL was going to get killed yesterday. No.

Boom. Pow. I was behind me. AJ, boom. Everyone told me Steph was a scratch golfer. He was plus one. Well, I feel bad for Steph, man. He just had a bad day. That's what happens in golf and i bet he's fucking so mad right now that he performed like that last night because i do think he's good you

don't just say you're a plus one and you're not a plus one like that is such a good score you know people say they're uh university handicaps and they're not you see that's what i think people do i think people say they're 15s they're actually 27s. I don't know if you lie about being a plus one. Well, I think that's also one of the things that they need to kind of change with the match. I enjoyed it, watched the whole thing, and part of that was because there's nothing else on. But no disrespect to Klay Thompson whatsoever,

but if you are a plus 15 handicap, you need to be incredibly entertaining. Because if you're not, you that's like what happens with him is like, it's embarrassing. You're going out there. They're not using any of his shots. He's not playing well. Like he doesn't want to engage in my, he's not talking.

He doesn't want to be funny. He doesn't want to do like, and can you blame him? It's like, Hey, you're on national TV playing golf. You're playing like shit. Like I don't blame you for not being all jovial and like,

you don't have an opportunity to talk shit, but I think that is where they kind of need to tweak it is you either need to have someone who is if they're not that good of a golfer, they need to be like uberly funny or entertaining or you need to get guys who are good. You can't have holes where on

a par three, everyone is missing the green. You don't have anyone close because that I think is where people are kind of like alright right what that what the hell am i watching travis travis calisthenics star of the show yeah for sure but even very happy that he was on there but there was a couple holes where i don't he was like either focusing on his golf or like being and it was almost like just pitch quiet and silence and it's like okay i respect the intensity of this whole thing but are we well and they're not professional golfers, though, too. And then they're trying to pot up.

You get that kind of silence. So the truck or the production crew is trying to pot up certain people's mics where it's not really a conversation that's meant to be happening over the air, so you just get multiple people talking. But that's the thing is Kelsey, I can't remember which hole it was. They had a tree right in front of them them they're over in the pine straw and kelsey fucking rips one you know like to 20 feet on the green an incredible shot and then he's super entertaining on top of it but it's just like i don't know i mean not that i was gonna watch

anything else but it is just tough like if if you get a guy especially a professional athlete who gets in that situation and they're not playing well, they're not going to just start busting balls and be funny. It's like, hey, I'm fucking embarrassed. I don't want to do this anymore. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to stop talking about golf, although we will revisit it because it happened last night and the NFL beat the hell out of the NBA. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Speaking of the NFL, we are just 69 days away from the NFL season kicking off to celebrate that. Our number 69, ladies and gentlemen, three-time Super Bowl champion from Alaska. Calls games on Fox and does radio on 1043. The fan has some chili that's stinking good. Ladies and gentlemen, the legend, Mark Flares. Yeah! How are you, boss?

I'm good, man. How are you? Hey, 69 days away from the NFL season. I know the number 69 is obviously one that you hold actually near and dear to your heart, right there on your chest. And it's a number that I think anytime somebody picks it, automatically go oh you do that whole thing but when we get to 69 days until nfl football and we see your beautiful body on connor's twitter account we know we're right around the corner stink let's go right around the corner absolutely i am i am ready man i have been uh grinding and studying and uh and just getting prepared like just getting prepared for the season. I'm so excited about it. Actually, I didn't pick 69. I was actually number 50 when I went to my first training camp. I was 50 all through training camp. Then I show up to the Hall of Fame game in Canton, Ohio. It was the first game I ever played. We're're playing the buffalo bills and i get to my locker and they've got 69 in there and so i'm like i guess you know when you're a

10th rounder at idaho you just take whatever they give you you just go like i'm good i got it all right i throw the 69 jersey on but here's the here's the great part of this just to kind of your your your process or the way you kind of grow as a football player, you know. So my parents flew down from Alaska to watch me in the Hall of Fame game. And, you know, I get in there and I'm a backup center to Jeff Bostic at the time when I got drafted. And so I play in the Hall of Fame game. I play really well. You know, I say goodbye to my parents.

And anyhow, my career starts and I end up, you know, playing as a rookie and starting as a rookie. No, they don't. No, they don't. but playing for 12 years and like my career is essentially over and my mom and dad and i just a couple years ago were just kind of reminiscing about it and then they admitted to me the only reason they came down to canton ohio to watch me in the hall of fame game is they just assumed it was the only game i would ever play. Oh. Yeah. They're like, we just, we didn't think you were going to make it. Like, if we're totally honest with you, we just didn't think it was going to happen for you.

But anyhow, so that's how I ended up getting 69. So I didn't actually choose it. It was just assigned to me and I was not at a point to argue with anything that they did for me. Well, from a 469 to a 12-year, three-time Super Bowl champion, I mean, what a dog. Let's go. Absolute dog.

Let's talk about the NFL coming up. Our reigning Super Bowl champions, obviously, in the AFC West over there in Denver, you all know so well. Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes just destroyed the NBA last. Just absolutely mopped the course with these NBA champions. And I think what we saw there was what the NFL has seen over the last few years like Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey for whatever reason when they get going it just seems like an unstoppable force they're not running the routes that are on the plays they're not doing anything nobody else has a clue what the fuck they're doing

but they're winning the biggest games in the biggest moments is this the greatest duo in the NFL right now we have to right that has to be a conversation yeah you would you would have to think and you know you think about when you game plan you game plan for a team and the first thing you're going to do um is you're going to say okay how are we going to stop Travis Kelsey how are we going to stop this connection between Mahomes and Kelsey and you put all these game plans together at the end of the day you know Travis Kelsey always has you know eight nine catches for 113 yards and you're like well that plan didn't work you know I mean that it's so they do have this connection almost like they

went to Hogwarts together right they've got this mind meld to get connection where they just like they can just change a route they can just look at each other. And that's always a fun thing. Like, as an offensive lineman, you always have these guys that you connect with, you know. And I can't be good unless we're collectively good, right? That's how offensive line works. And there's oftentimes you just walk up, and it's not even communicating. Like, it's not even words. It's just like, hey, you see that?

You see it? Yeah, I see it. And you're just so on the same page with what the defense is trying to do what we're going to do as an offense and that's those two guys they just have this connection that is it's brilliant it's a brilliant connection and you know as much as i hate to uh as much as i hate to give them credit because you know they are the chiefs and I hate everybody else in the AFC West I gotta give them a ton of respect they're just they are just

awesome they're great and they seem to be dudes too which I appreciate you know like Patrick Mahomes is drinking a beer out there you know Travis Kelsey obviously doing the same thing they're talking shit they're living like Joe Burrow same exact thing I feel like this next generation Kenny Pickett even,

he's been, I think, at every country concert with his offensive line, drinking. It's almost like an old school mentality that is kind of coming in with his new age guys. I think we're in a great spot. How about a great spot in Denver? Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Sting, one of my favorite things you do on your social media

is Man 101. And obviously last year for the Broncos didn't go exactly how they thought it was going to go when they got Russell Wilson from Seattle. But if you're to combine those two, if you had to give a Man 101 to Russell Wilson before this year to kind of get him ready, what would you tell him and what do you think that he's got to work on as the Broncos try and, you know, get back to the Peyton Manning Super Bowl? Well, I've said this a bunch about Russell Wilson is, you know, be real.

Like the inauthentic nature sometimes, I call it toxic positivity. Like you're getting the shit beat out of you and you're like, oh, we just got to keep believing, you know. No, you don't. No, you're getting the shit beat out of you, and you're like, oh, we just got to keep believing. No, you don't. No, you don't. I had the Broncos last year in a game, and there was an article written here in Denver in which Russ said, I've got to play better. Okay, great. So I go into the meeting, and the first question I ask him is, hey, man, I referenced the article. Great. So I go into the meeting and the first question I ask him is, hey, man, I referenced the article.

I said, so tell me what you have to play. What part of your game has to be better? What do you have to do better? And Russ thinks about it for a second. And he goes, well, we have to score more touchdowns. And I go, whoa, that's not what I asked you. You're not a French waiter. We, we, we, we know what, what do you have to do better? Right. I want to know what you, because my life is like trying to avoid misery, right? Like as an offensive lineman, nothing good can happen to you. You're like, you could, you could block a guy 65 plays in a row. You give up a sack, you're a piece of shit. He goes to the pro bowl. That's the way it works. Right. So you always look at yourself very critically.

And I was like, I don't want to know what we collectively have. I want to know what you have. And I kid you not, he couldn't answer the question. He never gave me an answer. And it's just one of those things where, like, dude, you have got to. Like, that's the kind of stuff that gets people where they don't – I don't want to say they don't respect you, but I have never seen – Stink.

I don't know about you. Hold on. I have never seen a dude get clowned. Like he got clowned across the league last year with the let's ride, on planes, team planes, everything else. I mean, he got clowned by everybody. I've never seen that happen. Like, that is a breaking of the ranks, right? And I've never seen anything like that happen.

So the overall tone deafness that he operates under on a consistent basis, if you don't change that, man, it's hard to get the respect of the guys that you play with and play against yeah self-awareness powerful thing you know and there's like um i don't want to say there's like a generation that seemingly either has too much of it like super self-critical or they have absolutely none of it and they just kind of go and do whatever and have no thoughts of it i think the thing that we've always said about r, and I'd like to get your take on this, it feels like, and you said it, the ingenuine, whatever the word is,

in, non, how is that? Disingenuous? That's a tough, that's a good disingenuous. It feels like he is doing what he thinks a movie character would do. The high knees on a plane. If you're writing a movie about the

super good guy quarterback in the nfl like that is something that you would do to have shoulder pads in monaco on a soccer field while you're throwing to like somebody that's obviously never touched a football before like that's out of a movie it feels like the the five body coaches that you're posting with the mask on like that's out of a movie the let's ride thing out of a movie it's like he's he's almost like too perfect and i think he's trying to be and it's like just be a fucking human i think is all how we all wearing your own jersey the training camp that's that's out of a movie like that's not real life you know know? And it's interesting. It's a very interesting saga.

It really is. And, you know, I always say this about coaches that get hired for the first time. Like, X's and O's and all that stuff, you know? I mean, all that stuff is important. But the bottom line is, if you're inauthentic, if you're not authentic in who you are then you're never going to have success and always talk about the belichick tree you know when you come in and you have coached under belichick all those years and he's earned that respect and he's got a couple of players like tom brady all those years where if you can you know cuss out tom brady then everybody

is fair game on the roster and tom brady loves to be coached hard and all that kind of stuff like you you've got that you've got that street credit if you will you know you built that up and all of a sudden you leave and you go and you get the opportunity matt patricia joe judge you know uh josh mcdance you get that opportunity to be a head coach and all of a sudden you try to become mini Belichick, right? And you become Belichickian. Like I did a game against Detroit years ago, and Matthew Stafford's hurt at the time.

They've got Blau as the backup quarterback, and he's smart and he knows what to do, but I would say that he does not have the requisite arm strength to be, you know, like a real NFL starter. And it's like November or December and it's, I mean, it's raining and it's cold and it's nasty. And you're playing, you know, you're playing in a dome. You're going to play in a dome Sunday, right? And yet here we are the first week of December. We're going outside on a Friday to prove how tough we are.

That doesn't, right, That doesn't prove anything. We can't complete a pass because it's blowing sideways. How does that help you as a football team? When everything you do on Friday, that doesn't do anything for your company. Everything you do on Friday is just an absolute shit show. And now let's go right i mean just it's stupidity and you lose credibility with players because they look at you like that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard yeah you gotta win quick if you're gonna do that gotta win quick if there's if there's losing okay so i'm doing all this shit

and we're not winning no way you didn't win't win no Super Bowls, by the way, pal. Bill Belichick won those. That's how players immediately think. Remember back in Cleveland, who was it, Mangini? Mangini, yeah. I heard, hey, I heard they were doing, I don't know if this has been, it was like Oklahoma drills, maybe in November, I think, on like a Wednesday morning, 6.30 a.m. or something like that.

And that type of shit just lingers to the rest of the league. Like, I heard that by, I think.30 a.m. or something like that. And that type of shit just lingers to the rest of the league. Like, I heard that by, I think, 8 a.m. I heard that there was Oklahoma drills happening at 6.30 in Cleveland. And it's like, well, he's got to make them tough. This is a tough, this is the Patriot way. It's like, you better win some fucking games. You got Oklahoma drills at Wednesday. And here in Indianapolis, we're like, never in a million years would we do that.

It's interesting, man. It's very, very interesting how normally the people that are the best at the things are just themselves. And I think Russell Wilson was maybe like that at one point. Had a lot of success. And then I don't know what happened. But he can come back. We've got faith. Let's go, Russ. Let's go, Russ. There's a new man in town

that might help him. Ty has a question for you. Speaking of coaching stink, last year before Russ came to Denver, the narrative was kind of like, hey, Hackett gets here and this roster is a quarterback away from going to the Super Bowl. A lot of people thought, hey, maybe you put Aaron Rodgers in

there and they're going to go. That doesn't happen. Whatever. Hackett gets fired. With that in mind, Sean Payton coming in, how much do you think he has, what will his impact be on their overall record if that is a Super Bowl roster? Do you think he's good enough to get them to 11 wins this year?

And obviously how well Russ plays is a massive part of that, but how big of an impact do you think Sean Payton's going to have on this team? I think he'll have an incredible impact on the team. Now, I don't know about 11 wins, but I think you're looking at, you know, 8, 9, 10, somewhere in there. 11 just seems a little bit far-fetched. And, you know, oftentimes I hear people talk about, hey, on paper, this roster is really good.

And I say this all the time. If the games were played on paper, I'd have spent a lot less time on the operating table. They're not. You've got to have great football players. You know, a lot of times people look at athletes. Football is easy for football players. It's hard for athletes. And you got to have athletic guys that are great football players. And so sometimes you can get enamored with athleticism and that doesn't necessarily translate to great football players. But here's the thing about Sean. So even even last year i'm doing a game in new orleans and a guy that's been around

the nfl for 30 everybody knows him but he works for new orleans and he walks up to me i'm standing you know kind of taking mental notes on on what they are in red zone and what they're doing i'm watching practice it's on a friday and uh he walks to me and says, you know what our problem is? And I'm like, no, what's the problem? He goes, Sean Payton walked out of the building and the fear walked out with it. And I was like, wow, that's a poignant statement. Because to me, there's two types of fear. There's the biblical fear, which is like when you hear the fear of the Lord, that's not like, oh, God, the Lord is going to strike me down. That is awesome reverence or respect. You better have a reverence and respect for Lord, that's not like, Oh gosh, the Lord's going to strike me down. That is awesome. Reverence or respect.

You better have a reverence and respect for the coach that's coaching you. The other one is just straight up fear. If I don't do my job, he's going to cut my ass and he won't even think twice about it. And I was, you know, I was, I was with Joe Gibbs. Who's one of the most regal people I've ever been around in my entire life. And Mike Shanahan, who's a phenomenal coach and a really good friend. And both of those guys, you knew what the standard was. And if you didn't meet the standard, you knew there would be consequences.

And, you know, Mike Shanahan would fire you. Like, he'd be like, hey, man, you're not playing well enough. You're fired. But I'm going to have pizza at the house tonight if you want to come by and get a slice. Like, it's not personal. This is just the way it is. And, like, one of the things that just resonated with me this offseason is sean payton comes in within like two weeks he's in the building and he's like uh

non-personnel like non-essential personnel non-football people you're like business people you're not allowed down in the cafeteria like get the hell out like what are you doing this is a sanctuary and we got business people in there we We got, you know, hey, we're bringing our clients down to see which players filter through. Oh, yeah. Take some photos. Right. Absolutely. Sean Payne's like, are you kidding me?

Like, there's a reason that you guys are losing. And this is one of the reasons. You can't have that. You know, you've got to be able to come in there in your underpants and grab something to eat and not even think twice about it. You've got to be able to be having a conversation like a legitimate football conversation and not think about changing

your locker room vernacular because you've got a bunch of business people and kids in there wanting to take pictures. It's mind-boggling to me that that can go on within an organization. He walks in and within two weeks of being there, he's like, it's mind boggling to me that that can go on within an organization. And he walks in and within two weeks of being there, he's like, this ain't happening. I'm not, this ain't happening on my watch. And there's a lot of little things that become big things over time. And I think as far as Russell is concerned, like Sean, one of the things I talked to Sean

about a lot, and I've met with him on, many occasions but you know just a we had a phone call about game planning and I was like hey man I just want to pick your brain I want you to help me out like if you were doing games and how do you game plan and one of the first things he told me was you know coaches will like they all want to attack a weakness you know the offensive coach looks at a matchup looks at weakness looks at a corner they can attack or whatever, exploit and say, man, we really want to go after this. And Sean says that's human nature and young coaches will attack that regardless. He goes, my first option or my number one priority is to mitigate potential disaster. So I may see something I really like and I want to attack, but I know it puts my right tackle in a bind,

and it's going to create a potential of a strip sack fumble. He's like, I'll take it out. My first priority is to mitigate potential disaster. Put a guy in a position to lose, and then don't be surprised when he loses because you're the dumb ass that put him there like you put him in like an untenable position and then you wonder why he lost like oh i can't believe he didn't get that plug because he's not able to do what you just asked him to do and so russell will not be asked to do things he's not good at they will find the group of plays and the things that he does exceptionally well,

you know, the play pass stuff that has a seven-man protection and a deep seven-step drop so you're sitting at 11, 11.5 yards so you can see over the line of scrimmage, and you're running like an over with a post behind it, right? And if the safety jumps the over, you throw the post, and if the safety hangs on the post you throw the over it like and it's one of those things where you don't get your vision clouded you can see it because you're 11 and a half yards deep like we'll we'll do that off our running game we'll put him in a position to do the things he does well as opposed to last

year doing a bunch of things that you can't do yeah and and that's that's what sean will do for russell and that's why russell will have a bounce back season that you can't do. And that's what Sean will do for Russell, and that's why Russell will have a bounce-back season. That's an interesting thing to hear from a play caller, the mitigating disaster, because normally, and I've heard from players that play a lot more important positions than the one that I played, they'll be like, well, yeah, and then they say execution is the reason why.

Like, well, if we could have executed the play uh it would have worked and then all week though there's a thought from a lot of players like we can't like this is not a executable play really if we especially if we see this front so coaches try to put that off i didn't know sean payton was like that you know it feels like he's incredibly humble there that's a humbling that's like kind of setting your pride aside and being like, what do you do? What do you like to do? What do we like to do? While also being a hard ass, right? And you said the fear and everything that goes out in the building.

Right. He was asked about Russell Wilson having his own office. Yeah. And his own body guru. And he said, I'm not familiar with anything. No way. That would not be happening. You know what I mean?

But he's won before. So just like the Bill Belichick statement, just like how Josh McDaniels and Patricia and Mangini tried to be Bill Belichick, it's like Sean Payton already has the resume. Like if we do what this guy says, we'll win. And isn't that what we're trying to do? I love it. I love the Sean Payton back in the building stuff. We need more guys like that, I think, Stink.

I think we need more guys. I completely agree. And I think one of the other things, and Pat, you were on great teams, and I was on a bunch of really good teams, really great teams as well. Yeah, I guess. You only won fucking three Super Bowls. Shut up. But I think the big thing that you see is there's a way to go about it. I travel around the league, and every Friday I'm in somebody's facility, right? And I'm just kind of observing, watching practice, talking to players and coaches. And you can see it, man. There is a standard to the really good teams that I think a lot of bad teams,

a lot of teams that are trying to figure it out, they think they're working hard. They think they're preparing. They think they it out, they think they're working hard. They think they're preparing. They think they're studying. They think they're making sacrifices. And they have no clue what it truly takes to win. The prep and the – like I just did an event with your former teammate, Peyton Manning, and you want to talk about anal on top. Dude, that's how I got dropped into the NFL, bro.

That's how I got dropped into the NFL, like watching this human who is a robot. This guy's a fucking robot. He's like, so he's asking, we do this golf tournament thing and this fundraiser. And like, I'm getting text messages. Hey, we want you there at six. This is the attire. I want you to be dressed like this. No shorts. You know, and it's one mess. I'm like, dude, for the love of Pete, just lay off, man. I get it. Right. And so then, then he's like, Hey, you know, then he leaves a

voice, like a two minute voicemail where he's like, like, Hey, I'm going to ask some of you guys to come up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, and you got to be able to tell a story, but it better be a funny story. And so my text message back to him is like, on the celebrity rung, I'm last on the ladder of your celebrities that I'm sure you're inviting. But I go, I am the best storyteller you'll have there. And I go, but don't feel obligated to bring me up. You know, I gave a couple of stories I would tell. I go, but don't feel obligated to bring me up. I'm just a super

fucking yoked old dude. By the way, I am an absolute unit right now. I'm just going to let you know. I have been training like I was making a comeback. I am so freaking strong. I don't know how it's going to help me.

But I do know when I walk into the gym, I'm an intimidating son of a bitch. I am intimidating everybody. Everybody. So I do know I have that going for me. Okay. So a lot was said there that we need to break down. I don't know which one to do first. The Peyton Manning event, me watching him work whenever I was a rookie,

I'd play nowhere near the position that he plays. But when I finally got to the point in my career where I was like, okay, I want to actually be great. I actually want to be great here. I don't want to go into every game nervous. I would like to fucking be good, great, have a good time doing this. I thought back to be great here. I don't want to go into every game nervous. I would like to fucking be good. Have a good time doing this. I thought back to what Peyton was doing.

How do I transition what Peyton was doing into the punting world? Because this motherfucker in the middle of special teams periods, I'd be punting. He'd be running sprints across the field. Offense is on the sideline. Defense is on the sideline. We got a special teams period.

Everybody's just kind of hanging out. And then all of a sudden you see fucking 18s, big head, sprinting across, doing gassers. And then all of a sudden you see some other people from, like, the D line that are like, all right, I guess. Yeah. Would have never done that, ever. Guys that would have never done that.

They see Peyton, it's like, all right, I'm fucking doing this now. It's just, like, one thing leads to another. And and it's like if you don't have that set of like leadership I think it's gonna be hard to figure out that that's actually happening because damn it's fun to watch like somebody who is very he's taking it into his business world though to your point I mean I've been after everything everything the guy does is every you know t's crossed every I's dotted. And, like, I get there early because I'm an offensive lineman, so I'm always early everywhere I go.

And I get to the event Sunday night early, and that dude's doing a full dry rehearsal. Like, he's up with the mic doing a dry rehearsal. And then people are like, okay, then we're going to introduce so-and-so. How are you going to introduce so-and-so? Because I'd like to have something to say after you introduce so-and-so. Bingo. And I'm like, this is why we're so different. They're like, we're going to introduce so-and-so? Because I'd like to have something to say after you introduce so-and-so. Bingo. Through that.

And I'm like, this is why we're so different. They're like, we're going to do this. I'm like, yeah, whatever. It'll work out. I'll make it work. It's fine. Like he is, that dude is one of the most detailed people that I've had the chance to be around.

And you can see why everything he does is successful. He leaves no stone unturned. He's not the only one obviously in the history tom brady i assume all the greats i assume have the similar work ethic and it was i was very lucky to get to watch it live you know and i think that's that's kind of the biggest part tone has a question for your world stink yes think um i know your relationship with sean i believe you've talked about consulting with the the saints before and then you talk about Sean coming in and making changes right away I think one of the changes that we noticed right away is that he immediately changed the offensive line so I assume he wasn't happy there and was

there ever a chance of you potentially becoming an offensive line coach or a coach for Sean Payton out in Denver especially with how jocked you are yeah yeah yeah I yeah I have I have talked to Sean about that. I have talked to a lot of different organizations about that. Yeah, I think there would be a chance to go to work. I just don't, you know, ultimately for me, I love what I'm doing right now. So I'm not ready to walk away from what I'm doing right now. The other thing is, and this is going to sound kind of goofy, but I don't want to be second in command. I don't want to, you know, I don't want to have to go through those hoops. I

feel like, you know, I feel like you've done what you've done throughout your career and you've studied the game the way you've studied the game. I just want to come in and be like, I'd like to just come in and be the offensive line coach. I don't want to, I don't want to have to spend two years being an assistant. Oh buddy. Dramatic pay cut. And I think, I think when you're a former player, like coaches want to test you.

Like they want you to do all the grunt labor for a couple of years before they promote you. HQ was fixing printers at 6 30 AM. I got a photo of his ass 6 30., sprawled out on a very hard floor, fixing a printer from the bottom because they had to print out cards. I'm like, you played in the NFL 12 years? Won a Super Bowl. Are you not rich?

What are we doing here? It's like, this is the process. This is the problem. Like, no, it fucking isn't. Not for me, I don't think. You and I think the same way. I'm like, that's not my process. That may be your process.

There he is. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. No, I guess like one of the toughest humans to ever exist. Full football career. He,

and he bought in by the way, cause he's a good teammate, which you would have to do. You have to buy in completely and everything like that. But you're right. The coaching process is an interesting one. It certainly is. Yeah.

And I just didn't uh like the things that i'm doing right now i really i really enjoy and i'm like i'm knee deep like i've been spending i do a different offensive like i do a different offensive game off a coach's tape every week and i try to i try to or not every week every i've been doing one a day and so what i try to do is i try to to format it like okay first intent first play right and then i do like shorthand what is the formation so is it trips right nasty you know um you know h minus like so he's on the weak side the the running back of course i have. So I have a shorthand for the formation, and then I'll run, then I'll watch the play, both sideline and end zone,

and then I'll say, hey, what's the, is it a split flow run? Is it, you know, is it counter? Is it power? Or is it, you know, what's the route combination? And so, and who did it go to? So I'm trying to get as much information as i can still diagnosing the play and then trying to figure out okay what's the best way to take that information so now i can go down and i can highlight every third down is there a

correlation in the formations that they run in third down is there a personnel grouping so i also put the personnel group down too so is it 11 is it 12 is it 21 is it 22 what and so i go through all these things and then i try to sit down and go okay is there something that i can garner from that information as opposed to just watching plays like i want to know that's a lot of time stink stink that's a lot of time one a day yeah so you're lifting watching film and then just eating protein? Yeah, basically, I just eat protein, I lift, and I watch film, and I do my radio show every day. You're a legend, Stink.

You're a fucking legend. We appreciate the hell out of you. We are 69 days away from the NFL kicking off. We are 69 days away from the NFL kicking off. I can't wait to watch you and listen to you on Fox as you utilize all the information that you are garnering before 4th of July. Stink, you are committed to your craft. You're a good person for the NFL to have in our world.

We appreciate the hell out of you. Quick thing about the lifts here. What are we doing? Are we still going in there, punking little kids on the bench like 20-some-year-olds are in the bench, and you say, excuse me, boys, walk in, lift that thing five times put it down is that a pr for you walk off is that what you're doing still yeah i uh yeah like sometimes i'll go how many more texts do you have to send before i can use this equipment you know because everybody's on their phone and they're

like put your damn phone away get in here get your work your work done. I did have a... I was doing lap pull-downs the other day, and I had a ridiculous amount of weight on, like, 220 I was doing lap pull-downs with. And this guy goes, can I work in with you? And I was like, yeah, sure. He gets in there. Full body. Yeah, yeah. A body comes up.

So I kind of snickered at him and go, hey, weakling, get out of here. Am I up now? How many reps are you doing versus how many I'm doing? I think you did two maybe. Your whole body, I don't know if that's a negative one. I don't know what kind of record I can set on the bench, the 225 bench test.

Hold on. Like I said, how many do you think? My absolute unit. Where do you think at ballpark how many do you think absolute unit where do you think where do you think at like ballpark where do you think you are what right now i could do between 30 and 40 somewhere okay we'll set the over under a 37 okay if you get over 37 we'll donate 50 000 has to be hold on though has to be has to be a legit film. Yes. We don't need any fuckery like Dan Orlovsky's. None of that.

Dan Orlovsky lied about his score at Oakmont. Not on purpose. He said he did his math wrong for a donation when he played at Oakmont. Are we close to 37 right now if we had to? I don't know. I could probably get close. But one thing that you'd have see i would get a lot of people go whether you're doing three-quarter reps no no i don't care i don't

care i don't care i if i see that thing move that counts you know what i mean all right so yeah oh live on show live on show i'd be i'd be i'd be close i'd probably be close i don't know if i could get it i don't know if i could get it. I don't know if I could get 37. Well, that's why it's a good number. That's why it's a good number. So we'll set up like if you get to 32 to 34, we'll do this. 34 to 37, we'll do this. Because if you're – how old are you?

No, you don't have to. 57. Holy shit. Christ. I saw another older man do a couple different things. The thought of them sitting under a bench with 225 on them, 30 sometimes would be a feat anyway. All right, so what we'll do is we'll do a live on the show next week.

Yeah, we might be able to. Now, next week I've got the Fox seminar. Okay, week after next week. Yeah, we could probably work the week seminar. Okay, week after next. Yeah, we could probably work the week after. Okay, week after next. We'll go live on there. So you'll have to have somebody who will hold the FaceTime. Yeah.

And we'll just get right after it. Okay, we'll see if we can make that happen. Let's go. You're a dog, dude. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Schleyer. That'll be awesome. What a weapon. I just want to let you know, I'm a fucking unit right here.

220. 220. That's a big human. That's absurd. That he's just pulling down from the clouds, fighting gravity. I mean, that is bananas to think about. Someone like that can't work in with you. Think about what that guy was probably wearing.

He had the bodybuild shirt on, you know, the whole thing. The rock logo. Definitely. Definitely the hardest worker in the room. For sure. No question about it. Of course. No question about it.

And then Schlereth is like, do you know what you're fucking dealing with right now? I'm an ox. I'm an actual ox from Alaska. 69 days away from the NFL, which is an incredible thing. Connor became the countdown NFL kickoff guy last year with Twitter's new rules, had to adjust a little bit, do it differently, does a tweet every single morning. Having somebody on that represents the day is a good idea.

Yeah, it's awesome. And it also gives you something to look forward to, like today being 69, being done with the 70s. Every time that number on the left changes, that's really where you start to make headway. It's not week to week. It's when that six goes to five, and then that five goes to four, and then we're really in it.

Yeah, we're going through positions. Exactly. See, right now we're in the offensive line. Yep. Okay? And it's fun. Then we'll get into linebackers and some offensive line to 50. Yep.

40s, we're the – 40-something seconds. There's a couple of safeties. Yeah, secondary guys. A couple of safeties in there. 30s, same thing, kind of. Not many running backs. 30s, yeah, some RBs.

But once we get to the 20s, to the teens, now to the single digits, I mean, we are inching our way towards Chiefs. Lions! Opening night, the Detroit

football Lions. Who would have thought? Hey, that's awesome. That is awesome for the Lions fans. Hey, when are you on primetime normally? Thanksgiving. Thank you. And it's actually 1230. We actually force the NFL to do that.

That is why we are on primetime. You see us with your families, fuck off. Now, when are you on primetime? Well, Thanksgiving obviously because we forced the NFL into doing that. Also, opening night, the biggest draw off basically of the whole season. I'm so fucking excited. The Detroit Lions have to take on the two men that we saw last night though. Yeah, that'll be

fun. Yikes. Patrick Mahomes said it though. When do you see me blow, when do we blow off teams? Yeah, good point. Yeah, it's like that spread stat from last year. They're like 1 in 10 at one point. I've lost so much money betting on the Kansas City Chiefs. And every single time I think, well, next week they're going to get it back. Next week they're going to get it back.

Spread this week, 11 and a half. Who are they playing? Bumass whoever. It's like, well, Patrick Mahomes. They're going to beat mahomes travis kelsey they can beat them alone literally and then all of a sudden it's a four point game with four minutes left have to get a stop have to get first downs to kill this thing they ended oh my god another cardiac chief situation and i'm out massive bet because i assume this would be the week that they got back they didn't next week same thing next week same thing next week same thing they are probably

the book's best friends oh yeah because everybody wants to bet on the chiefs like me and then they never cover and patch my home so it's just on the match he said he likes good tv what do you want did you are you not entertained you're welcome you're welcome in this entire thing same with brady and the bucksucs last year. Because every single week with the Bucs, it was like, this is Tom Brady. They got Godwin and Evans. They're going to go down and destroy this team. I actually specifically remember the Giants was a primetime game,

and it was like a 10-point spread or something really before the Giants really hit their stride. And it was like a three-point game. Giants damn near won. A lot of the NFL games are closer than we imagine we're gonna remember that next year as we try to put our don't do it bad be an adult be an adult be an adult put our hard-earned money on any of these games yes that's right on any of these games, let's remember that they're a lot closer even if it doesn't seem feasible at all, Tone. Last three seasons

against spread-wise, they had not had a winning season. They were 8-11-1, 10-10, and 8-11. Yeah, I felt every single one of those. I think that Lions-Chiefs game opened at like 7-1-1, if I remember correctly. Where's that at now? I do wonder. Tone, we'll look it up. And the Lions, speaking of, too, they were unbelievable against the spread

because they started one and six, and then they just rattled off. Oh, it's moved to six and a half. Good number. Have the humans who are betting caught up to what the Chiefs are? Chiefs will win if they have to. Like when a push comes to shove, probably get the dub. But they're getting bored they will fuck around yeah you know what i mean they will have a good time they'll miss a couple

two foot putts super bowl hangover is a real thing yeah we got a short off season we've been having fun the poor's like bear obviously doing its thing but then oh we need uh we need 10 here in the fourth quarter oh Oh, cool. Sure. I forgot we're doing this. Sounds good. Let's play football. Okay. We'll get it in three minutes.

All right. Bang. All right. Need to stop, Deke. Chris Jones. Defense player of the year. Coming through. He just tweeted this.

Dean Lyman for the Kansas City Chiefs said, yeah, I'm going to win defense player of the year next year. I fucking love it. I absolutely enjoy the thought of people putting things into the universe, and everybody talks about how people can speak things into existence. Like, that guy seems to speak things into existence. That guy does all that. Well, normally, whenever you put something out into the public,

you feel a sort of pressure to get it accomplished, because if you don't, then obviously everybody's going to say, this guy's full of shit, everything he says is a lie. So Chris Jones just out of note, yep, I am loving this right now, is my response. Chris Jones goes, yeah, I'm going to let people know these are my expectations. And then every single day now, he is going to have to feel an added pressure of the world and the public going, this guy's full of shit.

I love it. I appreciate it. Hell of a football player. Now, with that being said, there's a lot of dogs on the defensive side of football. Ton. A lot of them. A lot of incredible athletes, freaks that are trying to get to the quarterback. Not that Chris Jones isn't one of them, but winning one of those awards is very difficult.

But I like his confidence. I like that he's putting it out there. And I can't wait to watch his Chiefs team play football again. Yeah, and last year it did feel like people wouldn't talk about him. Like, it was Micah and Nick Bosa. It was those two. He was third in voting. Yeah, and he was the other finalist for Defensive Player

of the Year, so he's been there. He's close. It's not like this guy hasn't been performing well, and now all of a sudden he's saying, hey, I'm going to be the Defensive Player of the Year. Like, he's a stud. Stone Cold Chris and well now all of a sudden he's saying hey i'm going to be the defensive player of the year like he's a stud so cold chris joe what that's what they said it's also almost kind of a detriment to him because you know even if he's incredible like he almost has to have like a 19 sack season because no matter what he does it's always going to get outshined by whatever mahomes and kelsey are doing on offense so like he every year has to have the best year of his career

in order to even be in the conversation to win it. So, he will get a lot of primetime games. For sure. He is obviously a member of the Chiefs, and the Chiefs are currently in the middle of a potential dynastic run. For sure. We have to recognize that. We're in the middle of potentially watching a dynasty,

and we have to enjoy it, and we should appreciate it. But to your point, when you're on primetime, there's a lot of pieces that are done about your team a lot of interviews that are done about your team chris jones let's hope he gets a bunch of those this upcoming year that helps boost the voting to potentially win defense player of the year but when you got potentially the next best football player of all time on your team yeah it's gonna be hard for people not to focus on like look, look what this dude has accomplished already, what he is doing tonight. And then Travis Kelsey is going to go down as probably the best at his position as well in the history in almost everybody's eyes.

It's getting to the point where people are starting to think that. Hard not to be like, hey, we're witnessing greatness here. And then you've got to pay attention a little bit to the team that you're playing against. Got to get a Jared Goff special in there. Got to get a Dane Campbell special in there there so whenever you're talking about the amount of pieces that like tvs and the reason primetime games are so awesome for organizations is because how much you learn about the organizations in the little interviews and the stats and everything like that that gets projected to the entire world

always good for business to be on a primetime. But you're right. He has to be like normally fifth fiddle for every single one if he has the best year of his life. If he plays worse than he did last year, I mean, there's not even a thought of like, hey, we're going to put this guy over because we are currently watching maybe Mount Rushmore football player when it's all said and done and Mount Rushmore tight end of all time,

whenever it's done and we're in an offensive points driven world, that is a fascinating little wrinkle to the whole thing. Yeah. Cause it's almost like if he gets like two and a half sacks in a game, but Mahomes throws for 350 yards and four touchdowns, like what he does will be a footnote. Like it'll be mentioned. Sure.

But like you got an interior D lineman getting two and a half sacks in a game. That's a fucking incredible game. Also, fourth quarter, this dude threw for three touches. Yeah, exactly. His QBR was 126.1 in the fourth quarter. Look at this no-look pass. And it's hard not to get it.

How about when he balanced on one fucking hand? You remember when he was running completely sideways? Balances on one hand, reaches out for the touch. Hard not to talk about that. Exactly. Hour and a half, two hours by all of us. Hey, Chris, we want to let you know we're going to talk about you. Yeah, we'll cover it.

We love you, Chris. We'll cover it. And Andy Reid. Like, Andy Reid, everyone loves. So even though he's not playing, he's almost below Kelsey and Mahomes before they get to Christian. Well, let's get to a break. A.J. Hawk will be on the other side.

But also, representing the NBA, Kendrick Perkins will be on the other side. Also representing the NBA. Kendrick Perkins will be on. Okay. I don't know if Kendrick Perkins golfs. Okay. Hope he does. Probably great on the course. Would be nice to share 18 with.

That'd be cool. But he needs the answer for what happened to the NBA yesterday on that golf course. That's right. Because it's a lot more than just what was going on golf wise. The NFL broke those NBA guys. For sure. Now, I'm not saying I did. Steph and Clay would have beat me. I'm not saying I did. Steph and Klay would have beat me.

Let's not even get crazy. But what Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes did to the NBA representatives on that course yesterday broke them. Yeah, dominated. Steph's a plus one. I don't think he made a putt over seven feet. Just a bad day for Steph. Klay, though, we need to watch him.

He's a boater. What's that? He's a boater. He's not a golfer. Clay? Yeah, we knew that. Like a fisherman? Yeah, like a fisherman. He loves driving his boat. He's live on IG. Oh, really? And he's driving his boat, yeah. Oh, so he was kind of like offered an opportunity and said, yeah,

that'd be cool. I guess. Or they offered Steph. And Steph was like, who would you want me to play with? And they're like, Clay. You and Clay are kind of like the Kelsey and Mahomes of the NBA. And he probably committed. Called Clay. Clay's like, what the fuck, dude? You're putting me in a terrible spot yet again. This is what I'm talking about.

Which is why we need to watch Scottie Pivensitch. Also, it's by Clay Thompson's gear. Yeah, sweet logo. KT. Yeah. Sweet shoes. Those guys hit zero fairways yesterday all four of them a lot of a lot of headshots in the crowd yeah i wish i wish they would just not allow fans i don't know why they do yeah just don't allow fans good point it's a distraction i understand

you're trying to do what's right and probably people will either like get perks to go to that from wind casino or whatever but we shouldn't have to watch travis kelsey patrick mahomes steph curry and clay thompson who are committing to do this in an offseason also deal with non-secure fans that want to take a photo get an autograph and almost get run over by golf carts yeah like that shouldn't be something now clay nailed the guy. Yeah, they... That hit a guy. That hit a guy. Steph almost ran a kid over. Yeah. Like, that should not be happening.

The fans that also line the tee box, kind of ballsy there. I mean, you have no idea where that's going. We just have no fans out there. No fans out there. Especially when you got guys who are plus 15s and plus 11s. It's like, hey, you think he's going to hit it 300 right in the middle of the fairway every time? Like, no, there's a chance he's snap-hooking this right into your teeth. Let's get to a break.

AJ Hawk will be on the other side. Kendrick Perkins as well. Plus your phone calls on the 5NG phone line, 1-833-433-3663. A lot of things have happened at the place that we will be heading to at a date, TBA. Right. Right. C. C as in yes in Spanish?

Yes. All right. That was something. Yeah, bilingual show. Yeah, and I also did letters, and that is a letter. Yeah, so C as in- C could have been added on to the back, and I didn't know if that was potentially happening

or if he decided to speak in a different language on this show. I think it's because you said TBA that I had to say C. Like to be continued. No. Yeah, but TBA is to be announced. TBD could have been. But it's already been D. Boom.

It's been D'd. So now it's time to A. Put the D in it. C. Bingo. To our Spanish speaking audience. That's right. Anyways, Put the D in it. C. Bingo. To our Spanish-speaking audience. That's right. Anyways, a lot of things happened over there.

Don't love any of it, obviously. That's terrible. A lot of people that I know and like have obviously been delivered a piece of information today that is not good at all. Got a lot of people sending me stuff for this entire thing. $30 billion is spent on sports, I do believe, by Disney. I hate that this happens in any business. I love the shit out of people that like to work. I appreciate hardworking humans.

And I understand how incredibly sad and disappointing this all is. I fucking hate it. Don't like it for anybody. But I do believe there's a chance that I've been kind of desensitized to this type of thing a little bit. Because in the NFL or any professional sport, you very much know what it's like to spend every day with somebody. Work every day with somebody. Build a relationship with somebody. Have lunch with somebody.

Go into a meeting, and then come back on the other side of the meeting and never see that human again. They got cut. They are now selling insurance in Omaha, Nebraska, and you never see them again. And it's just like that news always sucks. So I fucking hate that anybody has to experience that. And I don't know how or what the reasoning and who and how it got chosen, but that is a bummer.

Yep. And I do not like it at all. With that being said, I don't appreciate getting blamed by people either. That's not how it works. That's not cool. I got some text messages from numbers that I do not know who allegedly worked

at ESPN previously to today. They said some rude things. Pretty nasty. Yes, they did. Said some rude things. Green text messages. Feels like they were

burner numbers, fake numbers to send a number through. Possible. Jesus Christ, bro. Or lady. Yeah. I'm sure.

A couple of them. Sorry about it. I really truly am. But what you're don't know. Yeah. I'm sure. A couple of them. Sorry about it. I really, truly am. But what you're saying to me right now is pretty fucking rude. Let's get to a break. It's a feel-good Friday, but I understand there's devastating things that are currently taking place. It's a fine balance. Man who is toxic positivity every single day.

That's right. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion. He's currently the champion of Ohio. Actually has a jacket and a trophy. He's a COVID survivor, father of 10, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers and the reason why the layoffs happened, A.J. Hawk.

Yeah! A.J. Nailed it, Diggs. That was amazing. I love that. I love when Diggs delivers a good line like that. Yeah, especially one that's well thought out. Yep. You know, he's really... Big words.

He's put the mental rehearsal in with it. He's tested it a few times in between his ears, and he says it's ready for the world to hear. That one may be top five of all the ones that you have had. I still have a lot of P words in my brain going on right now, so I mixed a couple of them together. That's fine. That happens.

That happened this week. A reporter for the Volume Sports Network, also a part of the Herd with Colin Cowherd, Jason McIntyre on the He's On Fire podcast. Straight Fire. Straight Fire podcast with Jason McIntyre. Said that Kevin Durant called him a Pword and a broke boy in his DMs. That happened this week.

Drama major. Well, and Kevin Durant also called him a drama major, which is the first time we've ever heard that used as a term against somebody. I've never heard that used before. Shout out to all the drama majors. For sure. But also drama majors don't like being called jocks, I assume. True. I would assume that is something they don't enjoy. But that happened But also, drama majors don't like being called jocks, I assume. True. I would assume that it's something they don't

enjoy, but that happened this week, AJ. What are some of your favorite things that happened this week, pal? I mean, KD Cohen, did we figure it out yet? Was it a penis? Is that what he called him, maybe? No. I thought we landed on pterodactyl. Yeah, we did. It looked like a bird brain. That's what he was talking about. Good point. I'm glad we cleared that up.

I mean, a lot has happened this week, even though a lot has not happened, all at the same time. Yeah, and when you have to do a daily show or get to do a daily show, we never have to do anything. We get to do a daily show where, you know, you get to hang out with a lot of people every single afternoon, and I'm very thankful that people choose to hang out with us. So we have to talk about something.

Yes. And when you're searching for something, you'll find it. Oh, yeah, always. This week gave us some stuff. For sure. How about that match last night, AJ? I mean, you're talking about Mahomes-Kelsey magic happening on a golf course. Minus 260 was what the Golden State Warriors were favored going into this match.

Steph Curry, who's better than Scratch golfer. And Klay Thompson, who's Klay Thompson. He'll figure it out. They got cooked. Did you watch it? What were your thoughts on it? And shout out to Travis Kelsey being the star of the show. Yeah, I mean, with Travis and Mahomes, they're an unbelievable duo.

Like, whatever they do, I feel like they could win. Just be, like, they're gamers. And they know, like, when it matters, they're going to play their best. And Steph, yeah, unfortunately, Steph didn't make any putts. And he kind of had an off day for him. And K't give him much help so good luck that's how you find yourself four down through five or whatever and it's like all right how do we get back from this they were up against it there and there was a time i guess where patrick and travis were like let's go ahead and miss a couple three foot putts yeah foot putts let's keep them in there patrick said i like a

good tv what do you want from me unflappable confidence from patrick mahomes i don't know if anybody else noticed that. I did. Whenever he hit a bad shot, he's like, go on, roll, roll, roll, and then it would end up in a good spot. It's like, feels like the people that are that way do seem to get lucky more than other people for whatever reason. They create their own luck.

You can create your own luck. I agree. Every time he was stepping over it, I got to throw a dart real quick. That was the way he was talking. And I don't think he's a golfer that golfs every day trying to become a professional golfer. It's just like in those biggest moments when it seems like

other people potentially get a little shaky. And Steph Curry has the same trait. Let's not take that away. Those two motherfuckers seemingly always show up. And it is a joy to watch it truly is last night was fantastic watching them beat the shit out of steph curry and clay thompson now we do not know stepher clay that well no no we don't know patrick and travis that well i mean

also true we like personally i guess yeah but i do know that once i got one up and they got two up, and that thing, they started, you know. Real comfortable. And they started chirping from the tee box. Yeah. And they started doing that. It's going to be a tough train to stop. It feels like there's a lot of people that have tried in the past.

Remember, there was a time where the Titans, I think they were up 21 to 3 or something like that. I forget what the exact score was. And Houston, when they were starting this down, was up like three scores. 24. Yeah, three, four scores there at some point. It's like once those dudes get rolling,

I'm starting to believe it's an inning. And Travis said, me and Pat, whenever we play cornhole together, when we play darts together, when we play golf together, obviously when we play football together, it's just like, yeah, we play well off each other. And that was real. One shank, one mass in the middle of the the pine trees bingo was it 200 some yards i think yeah yes it's a seven iron right through the trees like a perfect shot it's like i got you i got you i got you that's incredible to watch i love it i loved everything about it yeah that's

what too like when you're it's like if you're playing a scramble, there's different partners that can help. Where, okay, this guy usually drives the ball straight. This guy's a bomber, but he hits it out of bounds a lot. This guy's a good putter. Those two guys just picked up when their partner needed them. Hey, I got you, man, and we have it. I think that the confidence, you're right, you can see the confidence build from the jump.

They seemed like they were comfortable, they were excited, and they came out there and just killed it. And obviously Draymond, I think, helped Pat and Kelsey with talking about talking to Clay and everything. And everything he was doing was – I enjoyed having them on the broadcast. I enjoyed them a lot. On both, yeah. Yeah, and there was a video of Travis Kelsey teaching Draymond Green

how to shotgun a beer with one of those beer beer yeah beer straws i think they're called bigger like a portable chugger a portable funnel it would be like a a small bong like yeah beer bong yeah they were pretty good device it i've seen it around after my generation i believe yeah chugging this thing was created. Yeah, it's the thing on the end. I think, isn't Mike, what's his name? Dude, Mike Studd. Mike Studd.

I think he created this. Oh, okay. I think he was a part of it. I do believe. Where you put the beer in there, then has something you stab it obviously to get the shotgun hole out of it it's called the chug bud there it is good name had to have a clever name so dream on doing that in travis kosey teaching him and then there was allegedly some advil being vaped as well it seemed like they were having a good time there in vaughn we all know super

positive about everything yes super positive about everything Steph Curry said something to Clay hey you just need to do this or whatever and you heard Vaughn like chirp a little bit toward yeah Clay just need you to yeah do that need you to do this or whatever like it felt like all parties are working against Clay you know and uh I said a couple times today What? We're all kind of watching it unfold right now With Scotty and Michael You know You think they're going to be They're going to have a strained relationship

Is that what you're trying to say? Could you imagine being Clay? Just think about You think about Scotty Yeah Where's Scotty's coming from? Like that's how much This whole Michael Jordan Scotty thing

Has confused me Because I'm like, what? I thought you guys were pipping in Jordan. I mean, this is just like, and obviously Jordan's the greatest. I didn't know the basketball world as well growing up. I just kind of, as an outsider, assumed that's what it was. And then you think about from Scottie's point of view, Scottie's like, wait a minute now. I want a bunch.

I'm fucking really good. I was a massive piece of this whole thing. And I get no respect at all in the history of it. Everything goes to Michael Jordan. When they talk about this Golden State dynasty 15 years from now, 20 years from now, when it's a different thing, I believe there's probably going to be a lot of Steph Curry, right? Yeah.

I'm thinking. Yeah. Well. Yeah, because he changed the game. But they're also going to talk about the Splash Brothers, will include clay okay yeah and i hope so you're right we will if we're still doing it we will we will for sure draymond ain't gonna talk about that yeah exactly that's who i think is going to become kind of the pippin of the whole entire thing is draymond the only thing with steph is like is Jordan had six finals MVPs.

Their first one, it was Iguodala. Their second and third, it was Durant. So I don't know if Steph and Klay will have that clash just because the teams they were on. I hope not. I was watching that last night thinking to myself. Steph is the superstar of all superstars, though. I don't know.

I think he still is that way. So I don't know. Keep an eye on is that way. So, I don't know. Pippen, eye on Clay. How much of it with Pippen, though, do you think is like, obviously the basketball stuff drives him nuts, but Pippen never got paid. Like, his first contract was fucking, you know, shit. And then he looks at Jordan, and he's a billionaire, and he owns the team, and he's making all this money.

Like, Clay has been paid. Like, he's made a shitload of money. I have a feeling that that drives a lot of the animosity with Pippen and Jordan too. Yeah, potentially. And Jordan's son is with him. That certainly doesn't help. In the last dance, that's kind of when Pippen really turned it up

because of how he portrayed God. But I think that whatever his chances, they're in love. Oh, I think they are. I think so too. I think so too I think so Love finds a way Always Every time especially with Larsa

Yeah Can't choose who you love Joining us now ladies and gentlemen Is a man who was drafted in the NBA Is one of the voices of the NBA Is on ESPN every single day seemingly A friend of the program Known racist Kendrick Perkins.

Hey, did I dress accordingly today? Hell yeah. You look good, too. Look at that big chain hanging, huh? We got a big chain. Yeah. Yeah. I have to make sure I dress for the show.

I couldn't find a black one in my size, but I think this one will work. It's alright. I could never wear that one. You can, so do it. You know what I mean? Just go ahead and do that. Let's dive into what we were just talking about. Perk, I don't know if you're a golfer or not, but I want to let you know, bad day for the NBA yesterday. Bad

day. The NFL guys broke the NBA guys. Mentally, physically, just an absolute ass beating. How's that happen, Big Perk? That day, the NFL guys broke the NBA guys mentally, physically. Just an absolute ass beating. How's that happen, Big Perk? What happened yesterday? Is the NFL that much mentally tougher than all NBA players? That's what people are saying right now.

Oh, yeah. Do you want an honest answer? I think, well, I can't. Hell, yeah, they are. Okay. Don't even get me started with the whole load management and how I watch you know NFL players you know battle and go out there with what what Patrick Mahomes had a a broken toe or something like that and was out there on the field something was up with his ankle during the Super Bowl. Guys are sitting out for two or three weeks and I'm watching NFL players

battle through cracked ribs and everything. If you want my honest answer, yes, football players are more mentally tough than basketball players. Not punters, but we get it. There's levels to this entire thing.

Did you watch it? Did you expect it? And is there any conversation around the NBA community today about getting outfitted by the NFL so publicly? Well, so here's the thing. I was a little surprised because I know Steph is a magician when it comes to being on that golf course. is a magician when it comes to being on that golf course. Okay.

But I didn't know if it was a retired player thing or for a current player thing, because there's no way in hell J.R. Smith shouldn't have been out there. Oh, J.R. Smith should have been out there. You're right. Yeah.

You know, if we go put the top dogs out there, especially when we're going to get in that field players, damn it, we got to go all in. I appreciate the thought of like, yeah, we got a guy who's actually competing right now. He's very, very good.

Let alone Ray Allen, who's supposed to be an absolute stick. But we got, now if we're going to start talking about that though, Jam, Jam, Jam, Jam. We got Tony Romo. Hey, we got Tony. We do need to watch Steph Curry at this ACC coming up because he just got embarrassed, right, golf-wise? Yes, now.

And he's in the golf community pretty big. Look for a redemption tour maybe out there at Lake Tahoe. But if Tony Romo beats him, oh, my God. Well, I think what the world needs is a Pat McAfee and Big Perk challenge. That's what I think. That's the only way we can get back right. What are we doing? That's what I think.

We're going to post you up, Pat. No, we're not doing basketball. No, we can't do basketball. I think we should do kicking balls. Yeah, that makes sense. No, I was talking about golf. Oh, are you a player? I mean, I'm not, but i assume that you're not either

go ahead aj go ahead aj perk i don't know if you saw draymond at all out there draymond was with the groups the whole time just giving it to clay the whole night it felt like do you think and even one time clay or uh steph said yeah you're getting a little you're getting a peek into the locker room here guys like he was telling the people the media people, Charles Barkley and them, like this is what it's like. Do you think that helped or hurt Clay's confidence throughout that match? You know what? They're used to Draymond, right? He's the emotional leader.

And, you know, the great thing about Draymond is that he's never going to change, whether it's behind the scenes, you know, in the locker room or in public. And I think it was valuable for the public to actually see that because it's nothing fake. But it also goes to show you how much respect Steph and Clay has for Draymond and his leadership and what he means to that organization. Like, you know, it was all fun and games, but it just showed me a different type of chemistry. And it also showed me why they got rid of Jordan Poole. You know, like, although we could go back to the training camp situation and, you know, we witnessed the video and the punch

or whatever the case may be, but we don't know what was said. We don't. But it shouldn't have have happened Draymond apologized for it but at the end of the day we see how valuable Draymond is and I've been on record and I'm gonna say it right now outside of Steph Curry Draymond Green is the second most important player to that franchise interesting like that's something because he's a free agent already opted out yep so he could potentially go play somewhere else them moving Jordan Poole do you think that was a part of like hey Draymond we got rid of uh you know this guy or because we heard at the end of the year right the younger guys and the older guys kind of the supporting

roles were at odds allegedly so much so that Steph Curry had to say, if you're not going to try to only worry about winning, don't get on the bus or whatever. Then when they move Jordan Poole, that feels like an open, like, all right, this is not what we want to do going forward. But then Draymond might not be back as a Golden State Warrior. Is that actuality or no? No.

They're going to reach a common ground. And I think people are to the point right now where they're thinking Draymond is looking for a $30 million to $35 million a year type contract. And he should reach for the stars and, you know, reach for the moon and fall upon the stars. But I think, you know, he's not going to take 18 or 20, but I think they will reach a middle ground and get this deal done. And again, when it comes back to Jordan Poole, it wasn't just the training camp situation that I saw. It was times throughout the course of the season where Jordan Poole was taking

shots. We saw frustration in Steph Curry. In the postseason, hell, Steve Curry couldn't even play him. You know, he was unplayable. Just his whole attitude. And Kevin Garnett used to always say, when we was in the locker room, he always used to watch other young stars around the league or rising superstar caliber players, and would watch them and say,

I want to see how he acts once he gets his bag. What do you think about Jordan? Well, do I think about him? Yeah. You think he gets a right new destination? You know what? I think he's going to get an opportunity. I think he's capable of being a 20 to 25 point score in this league.

Now, is that going to result in wins? We have to see. But he's definitely getting the opportunity to go to the Washington Wizards and somewhat be the new face of the franchise short term until they figure things out. Okay. Well, I'm excited to see what Jordan does. And I agree with Kevin Garnett's statement.

That's in the NFL too. That happens. Guys get money and then all of a sudden I don't want to say the Zion situation happens, but the Zion situation happens and then an ankle that might, you talked about NFL players playing with broken feet and broken ankles and stuff like that. There are some

guys who get their money and it's like actually this hamstring's still tight. Still tight. Gonna need a couple more weeks for this entire thing. If that happens, you gotta stay away from them. I appreciate the fact that that happens in the NBA as well. I think the more I learn about the NBA, I think the more I and

everybody should appreciate, like, these guys are grinding. I think the thing is, like, prima donnas, kind of superstars, they don't work hard on the defensive end. They don't do that. Then you go watch a game, and it's like every fucking possession, there is people yelling. There is a plan, a system.

It's a real deal. I appreciate the hell out of it. But the NFL is just beating the fuck out of the NBA. You know what I mean? You know what? One thing about it is that I'm going to always try to keep it real as much as possible. And I got to agree with you on that. Yeah.

Because, you know, like I just came in in 03 when I, you know, when I was battling, when I was playing against guys like Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Tim Duncan, Jack, you know, Antonio McDyess, you know, Ben Baker, those old school guys that just like, you know, that always wanted to play, you know, 70 to 82 games and always was there, you know. Even when it was four games and five nights, you know, you could count on those guys to be available. And now it's just all of a sudden, and it's kind of a gift and a curse when they quote unquote call it a

players league, right? A players league because it's almost like if you give them an inch, they're going to take a mile. And I understand they got doctors in and the 82 game season, and it's all about the long haul and the doctors, you know, they'll look at the schedule and say, okay, on this week, you're going to rest this day and things of that nature. I get it.

They got scientists out there that could dictate certain things. But, again, guys are getting paid $30 million to $50 million a year. The least you could do is show up for work every single night. Especially if you, you know, walk in that line between being 65 to 100% healthy. There's no excuse. I'm excited to see what comes of it, though, because the awards, you're having to play a certain amount of games

to get in everything, and it feels like there's at least a, it's going in the right trajectory there. I was just talking shit about golf, but I hope that the NBA and its stars continue to understand their value to all of us. Cause boy, when there's nothing else on TV, but basketball, when you got Joker doing his thing and you got LeBron playing every single night, it's an incredible product.

Then when you go to a game and you think you're going to see that, and then it's just like five XFL guys. Like what are we, what are we – that's not good for business. That's not good for business either. But think about this for a second. I want you all to think about it. Think about those hardworking people, right, that are in those NBA cities that wait on that one superstar to take their family to or their kids to.

And, you know, that's living on a strict budget that every dollar matters. You know, whether it's putting groceries in the refrigerator in the pantry or, you know, gas money. And they pay their hard-earned money to get great tickets. And all of a sudden you show up to a game to find out that that superstar is not playing tonight i mean man that's just a disservice to the fans and the fans and the basketball community make up the nba players yeah and it's every business and i think that was incredibly well put right there because

who knows what the inspiration could be too to that young kid who's on a family on a budget living paycheck to paycheck seeing their best player or favorite player do something awesome then the motivation to go try to mimic that it can just lead to everything we hope it happens yes and i appreciate your take on it speaking of stars in cities that sell tickets connor has a question for you yeah big perk you and i have one thing in common and that's what we both got got by butt crack sports when uh jonathan comingo was supposed to be seven", but really that was a fake report. There's another fake report out there. You should know Kyrie Irving is meeting with

the Suns, but some people are saying that he's meeting with the actual Sun to discuss the Flat Earth theory. Just so you know, that is not the case. He is meeting with the Suns. Do you think that that would actually happen and is feasible for the Suns to have five players that are all making $40 plus million a year and everyone gets 20 shots a game?

Or do you think that he needs to go somewhere else and be almost like a number two to LeBron like he was in Cleveland? Well, I think it will be extremely hard for Kyrie Irving to get to Phoenix. And I don't know if the Suns will want them. Irvin to get to Phoenix. And I don't know if the Suns will want them. And if you're Kevin Durant, why would you want to give Kyrie Irvin another chance after everything he did to you in Brooklyn? Right? The one person that was reliable and went to Brooklyn with the right mindset was Kevin Durant. And so if you're KD, you can't take another gamble on a guy like Kyrie Irving,

even if they did have the money or cap space to sign him. You just can't do it. I mean, literally, you can't do it. You can't trust them. But if I'm Kyrie Irving, I'd go back to Dallas with Luka and J.Kid and get a fresh start, a fresh training camp, let Jason Kidd get an opportunity to put an offense in place. And here's the thing. Luka is going to have to learn how to sacrifice

and play off the ball a little bit. That's it. That's it. He cannot pound a rock for 18 to 20 seconds and just think that he's going to either take a shot or find someone, you know, with a catch-and-shoot situation. He has to learn how to play off the ball, and he has to hold himself accountable on the defensive end.

The one thing I saw in his NBA finals were we came into this season and Jokic and Michael Porter Jr., they weren't known as defenders, but when they was challenged, they rose to the occasion. Jokic was beautiful in the pick and roll. When he guarded and had to be out there on the island by himself when he switched out, he slid those puppies. Same with Michael Porter Jr.

I thought he did an excellent job of elevating himself on the defensive end. So it's all about accepting the challenge. It ain't about athleticism. It ain't about if you're the fastest person on the floor. It's about for four or five seconds, am I going to have the mental toughness to accept the challenge of stopping the guy in front of me? Couldn't have said it better, you know.

I've seen some big names taking charges in the playoff. I mean, that is, I think LeBron even took, I think LeBron slid into one all the way down. It's like, damn, if LeBron's doing it at 55 years old, how old he is, it feels like everybody should be doing it. But then there's the whole conversation about wasting energy down here or do I want to use it down here? It feels like it's always like

a balance. Shout out to my voice doing its thing. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Big Perk, what do you think is going to end up happening with James Harden? We saw teams like the Clippers being a possible destination or maybe Phoenix or a handful of other teams. Jeez, Perk.

I mean, throw that thing off the wall next time. You know what I mean? But where do you think James Harden is going to wind up? And do you think wherever he does wind up, he's eventually going to win a championship there? No, that's no guarantee for James Harden

when it comes down to the postseason and win the championship. The problem is that you can't trust him. And you don't know where his mind is. You don't know where his heart is at. And you don't know how much, like, if he ever wants to actually win the championship. Now, I will say this. If James Harden could get out of his own way,

he would definitely be a valuable piece to any team that's knocking at the door on the verge of winning the championship. We saw him this year. He led the league in assists. We saw him be one of the best facilitators and point guards in the game. If he would just get out of his own way and not want the organization and coach to adjust to his style of play, James Harden definitely could elevate any team to go ahead and win the championship. Hell, he could

have done it in Philly. But we saw in Game 7, he rolled over like a yoga mat. He quit. He quit in Game 7. He literally quit on Doc Rivers in game seven because things wasn't going his way. And now all of a sudden you get to Philly and you're playing with a guy that led the league two years in a row in scoring the MVP of big. know, do you know, like, in the history of the game, the perfect matchup is a big and a guard that could lead you to a championship? We just saw it with Jokic and Murray. We saw it with Kobe and Shaq. Like, if James Harden would just buy into his role with Joel and B and be all in, man, like, that would have been a beautiful thing but again it's not gonna happen because it didn't go james harden way man i i love watching james harden play basketball yeah

and i like the fact that he became the leader and assist in the nba and i think that should have and could have silenced a lot of critics but then what the last game of the year you watch him play and it's like hard not to just have that taste in your mouth because of things that have happened in the past. But what an electrifying fucking beard. Oh, yes. I mean, just the stories. Hey, the stories off the court. Him and little baby in Paris.

I mean, that's one of my favorite moments in the history of just like basketball. How he was on cloud 70 out there. Oh, yeah. And little baby seemingly walked him right into a bunch of cameras. Whoa. What are we? These cameras were not supposed to be here. I tell you this, you might want to get your ass out of Indianapolis

and come down to the James Harden weekend in Houston. You think you saw James Harden and Lil Baby down there in Paris. James Harden weekend in Houston is one of one. I'll tell you that much. It's one of one.

Are you going? Are you going? No, I can't go, man. I'm married with four kids. I can't be around single men. I'm married as well. I don't think I'll be able to make it. But you're saying, in general, if you were at the stage of life

to potentially enjoy a Houston weekend, James Harden weekend is the weekend to enjoy Houston. think I'll be able to make it but you're saying in general if you were at the stage of life to potentially enjoy a Houston weekend James Harden weekend is the weekend to enjoy Houston yeah yeah go ahead AJ go ahead AJ. Perk if at this point in his career do you think it's possible for him to get somewhere and have some coach or an organization to, like you said, absorb his role or know what his role is on the team to help him win? And what does he look like if he does kind of assume that role? What are his numbers like, you think? I mean, you want James Harden still flirting around that 18 to 20 points a night officially,

but those 10 and 11 assists is what you want. He would be perfect on the Clippers with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. I think, you know, we saw what Ty Lue was able to do for Russell Westbrook the second part of the season, letting Russell Westbrook be Russell Westbrook, but also putting him in a limited role. If James Harden wants to win, that's the thing. If James Harden wants to win,

then the Clippers would be the perfect situation for him alongside Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. I honestly believe that because here's the thing. At times when Kawhi and PG and you're in a half-court set and they do have the ball in their hands, the one thing you have to do is respect James Harden and his ability of stretching the floor and knocking down threes. So you have to respect that.

So it's a lot different than playing against a Russell Westbrook where you could help off in the paint and treat him like a Ben Wallace. You can't do that to a James Harden in the half-court set. Ben Wallace. You can't do that to James Harden in the half-court set. And now it gives Kawhi and PG more room to operate in their isolation play. And hopefully all of them will be able to stay

healthy if they're on the court together. I feel like that's kind of the Clippers' story. Paul can play, Kawhi can't. Kawhi can play, Paul can't. I just feel like we haven't really got to see that Clippers thing do its thing. But when they move into that new arena with more toilets than everybody else in the entire league,

them winning would be fantastic. Last question here for you, Perk. We appreciate your time. Yeah, Perk, free agency starts today at 6 p.m. Eastern, I believe. Is there something or someone that you want to see most out of this free agency period as far as someone going to a team or trade or anything like that? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

When it comes down to it, I'm looking at two players. I'm looking at Brooke Lopez and I'm looking at Bruce Brown. The Milwaukee Bucks cannot afford to lose Brooke Lopez. I don't give a damn what nobody say. When it comes down to what he brings to the table, him and Giannis anchoring their defense at the four and five position, he compliments Giannis so well offensively because he's a 7'1 guy that can stretch the floor and knock down threes,

and he's the ultimate rim protector. But then when you look at Bruce Brown, and we saw what he did in the finals and the postseason, and he's gotten better. When you look at his ability to make plays and stretch the floor and knock down threes, I'm looking at Bruce Brown, and if you're the Lakers, if you're Sacramento

you know if you're Dallas adding Bruce Brown to your team is a serious upgrade from where you came from last season hell yeah and he's not a father he's not a father, he does not have a baby I found that out

I didn't get butt yeah that was quite a scene you know yeah i did not expect to be the one that bruce brown told the world that particular piece of information but the internet got me you know every once in a while that'll happen it happened to us though we'll keep it moving yeah but you hate white people no no no no. I actually love everybody. We need more of that, don't we? Have a great day today.

We appreciate the hell out of you, Big Perk. All right, fellas, I thank y'all for having me. Ladies and gentlemen, Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, Perk! I actually love everybody. Yeah, that was awesome. That was incredible. Last time he was on, I think he was talking about American players

versus foreign-born players. Yeah, yeah. Which I – probably the point he was trying to make whenever he was originally called racist. Yeah. If I had to guess. If I had to guess. But if you start looking at that stat, it is crazy.

It's like, hey, MVPs, pretty much all of them last five years, I think. All of them last five years. Foreign-born. Number one overall pick, the next face of the last five years, I think. All of them last five years. Foreign-born. Number one overall pick, the next face of the league, foreign-born. It's like the star of the NBA Finals and the postseason as a whole. Rides in the back of a horse on a wooden carriage from Serbia. Loves to go back. Almost wanted to miss the parade because of it.

Great for the sport. Yes. Great for the sport as a whole. But I think a lot of the ex-players are like, what the fuck is going on here? Hey, my hood used to create the guys. Now we got a guy who's riding the back of a horse who's beating us. What do we have going on? I appreciate Perk taking the time.

Yeah, and they changed the All-Star Game format because it used to be, you know, the rookies versus sophomores, young stars of the league, and now it's just USA versus the world because there are just so many more players who are coming from international and other countries. Yeah, and the world team, I bet, tries a lot harder than that. I would assume they're trying, which is a shame. And I'm not going to get into a fool that is pretty much how, you know, not just basketball potentially.

Sure. I'm not going to say that. No. No point. AJ, you want to say it? What are you trying to say? He's not going to say it. I said I'm not going to say that No point AJ you want to say it? What are you trying to say? He's not going to say it I said I'm not going to say it

I'm confused what you're not going to say Well then why don't you take a guess At what you thought I was potentially going to say Something about foreign born players versus American born And then what were we talking about after that The all star game being USA versus the world And then what happened? I have no clue who won that game.

I did not watch it. Just pay attention to the show. It's a talk show. The game the day before the All-Star game, you think I know what happened there? Open your ears. Oh, my, this guy. Come on, I know it's feel-good Friday.

You got me. Yeah, I know. I don't know what you're going to say. I don't know what you're going to say, though. I can't wait to find out. Well, that's because you're over there. Oh, I'm not going to say it. You're not going to find out.

Yeah, ever. You're not going to find out. You're over there with your torch. Got to monetize this. I hate it so much. I'm going to steal my decal. I haven't watched that in a while. They want to kill me. I have not watched that man do anything absolutely absurd. It's such a long time.

I think it was the LSU baseball team. It might have been a different one, but that was one of their celebrations. It was Wake Forest. Wake Forest. Dude, so Zito saw him do an interview, or somebody saw them do an interview. Like the New York Times. Because we put in a real request for Taylor. Yeah.

Like typed it up, whole thing. He's got to know the pub that we have given the show. I would hope someone floats something to him. So we were told not really doing any, not even a thought to do any meeting. And then the New York Times got an interview or whatever, obviously, because it's fucking New York Times. His performance in that interview. Yeah, it was good.

He would strictly talk about spicy foods. Essentially, what you see of him on the show is actually how he is. You should write the article about how much I love spicy food. When we sent the ask, I was hoping that he would just come on and just scream. Yeah. Like every question we asked him, he's like, ah! And then stopping. And then like a full behind the scenes of him telling, I think it went really well.

That would be, the brain is just one of the most absurd ones in history, I think. And he's being given the keys to kind of do it. I'm very thankful that we live in a time where that's happening. He's going to have misses. Yes. He's a volume shooter. But boy, is he good whenever he hits. It's too bad.

I wish. I mean, six episodes. It's just because you burn through them so quick. And they are so good that you can re-watch them. But, like, now we're not going to get six new episodes for probably another year, year and a half. It's a little depressing. Let's go to the phones on the 5RNG phone line on this Feel Good Friday before Hour 2 ends here. I don't know what we're going to do Hour 3.

Oh, I do know, actually. Oh, yeah. We will have a hot dog challenge. Here we go. As we go into this four-day, Fourth of July weekend. Fourth of July, obviously, next Tuesday, we will be back next Wednesday. To celebrate this, obviously, there is a tradition

that takes place at Coney Island where Joey, Josh, Chestnut, now a citizen of Indiana, will go over there and beat everybody's ass in eating hot dogs. Easy. So, to celebrate Joey Jaws chestnut, the reigning, defending, undisputed hot dog binge eating champion of the world.

And 4th of July. Yep, of course. Which was, people forget, that was kind of a Babe Ruth situation. It was. The war was not over on the 4th of July. No, it wasn't. It did not end for another year,

but it was like a kind of point at the wall. We're about to end this thing. Nope, we won. And they go ahead about to end this thing. We won. And they go ahead and do that whole thing. And obviously not everything was good back then. And it's not perfect now. But you go to another country, you realize neither is they. And we still got work to do, but we're in a great spot.

Yes, we are. Need to get better. Always have to. Need to get better. Absolutely. But celebrate happy birthday to America. Zito will attempt to eat seven and a half hot dogs in five minutes. Whoa.

Hell yeah. Seven and a half hot dogs in five minutes. If he's able to- Are you dunking? Is he dunking in water? Sorry. In mustard. No, so he's putting mustard on.

He's actually adding on. He's not trying to make it smaller. He's adding things to it. I can't wait. Honestly, I'm excited. I didn't know this was going to happen. This is going to be fun. Yeah.

I think it's a really good concept. If he's able to eat the seven and a half hot dogs in five minutes, we will give 25 people $500 to celebrate the 4th of July weekend. Whoa. Only thing you have to do is obviously retweet the video of him doing it, say something nice for somebody, and put the easiest way for us to digitally pay

you, whatever that is. Whenever we first broached the subject earlier, you know, idea from the wife, actually. The wife was like, why don't you try to chug some beers and do an American contest? It's like, don't know if we need to do that, but certainly hot dog eating is right there. As soon as I pitched this idea

to Zito or whatever, I go, Zito, how many hot dogs you could eat in five minutes? He goes, 15. This guy said 15. Be disappointed in himself. Be disappointed if he couldn't eat 15. You're going to have to dunk him. You're going to have to dunk him if that's the case and just swallow him, basically. No, he was going to put mustard on all of them. He was just going to eat them couldn't eat 15. You're going to have to dunk him. You're going to have to dunk him if that's the case and just swallow him, basically. No, he was going to put mustard on all of them. He was just going to eat them.

He said 15. Ah, 15. So then he went back to, he was like, remember at that Yankees game? Not eating. I ate like 20 of them or whatever. It's like, that's four hours. That was four hours. So I said, I was thinking you were going to say like five.

So then some other people were like, got to be like eight, maybe 10. 10. So we fell on seven and a half just because that's half of what he said more than what i'm expecting yeah that's so many if this fucking guy eats seven and a half hot we'll give we'll give 35 people okay here we go z that's not much time five minutes no no not at all not not not is he does he don't have any experience being like a speed eater like that? No.

You don't have to answer that question. Don't be such an asshole. What was that, Hawk? Don't be such an asshole. I'm saying, has he ever done anything like this before? Never done the whole dunk and all that stuff, no. But if there's a little bread left, all bread has to be gone? No, no, no.

We can do one-sixth of the bun can be discarded. Thank you for that. No problem at all. I think that's probably a good call. My cholesterol thanks you. You think a sixth is proportional? I think cholesterol is coming from the dog. But I understand what you're saying.

Then there's gray areas. Think about all the chewing. A lot of chewing. Yeah, make sure you chew. I mean. Seven and a half dogs in five minutes. Listen, I don't think there's any chance, but yeah. Do it for America.

Yep. He's going to have to do the type of chewing. Like, if anything, he should be waving at us. Should we drop this number? The louder we talk about it, the more absurd it sounds. The only thing I'm thinking about is when we did the pizza stuff for when we were doing like the Office Olympics. And that pizza was was cold and hard.

It took a while to take that down. Are we grilling these or what? I don't want to brag. I took down that pizza very fast. I think we should do seven because then there's the push capability of it. Because if he gets seven and not the eight. No, he's half a hot dog.

Oh, okay. Yeah, true. Yeah, so it's seven and a half a hot dog. Someone's got to measure that. You got to measure that half. I think there could be some issues with that. It could be a hot dog. Oh, okay. Yeah, true. Yeah, so it's seven and a half a hot dog. Makes it through half the end. Yeah, yeah. Someone's got to measure that. You got to measure that half. I think there could be some issues with that. It could be a third even. We can even give you a third.

I think you're right, though. I mean, even five. A dog a minute is still... Insane. Yes. Is it? Do you remember how everybody was talking in here earlier? Do you remember that?

Oh, yeah. Zito going, 15, dah. And then everybody else like, 10 should be easy. 10 should be fine. Like, 10? 10. What the fuck are we talking about? 15, die. And then everybody else is like, 10 should be easy. I'm like, 10? What the fuck are we talking about? I also don't want Zito's Friday to just be completely ruined. Have him eat seven hot dogs in five minutes.

When we did the Yankees game, that whole day was ruined after those hot dogs. Yeah, we went to the German G5. Was that a contest or was that just casual? Did you have nine beers? It was free hot dogs. So Z made this challenge up in his head. They also had every single buffet item you could think of, like sushi, tacos, steaks.

Crabs, yes. Lobster rolls. And I think Zeke was doing double dogs with one bun, which is very helpful. Okay, hold on, though. Let's talk about that. That's a different story. I think you can get two dogs, one bun.

Single bun. Let's go. Okay, so you can do two dogs one bun. Let's go. Let's go. Okay, so you can do two dogs, one bun. So that's six. You're going to have to do... Yeah, you can do four of those. I guess you just cut off. Yeah. And if you

make it halfway through the fourth, that's seven dogs. Eight dogs, four buns. Yeah, eight dogs, four buns. Alright. What if he wants three dogs, one bun? Those buns aren't big enough. Scott's small buns on purpose. Could do a bun sandwich though and put a bun on top of three.

No, I think two dogs, one bun is the car. Respect the game. And we'll drop it to six so you can go three. That seems doable. I think seven and a half is on it. Okay, cool. I'm just thinking about Fourth of July parties, going to a party.

How about this? You're allowed to do three, two dogs, one bun. You have to do one dog, one bun, half dog, half bun. Perfect. Okay, so we can expedite six of them. That's fair. But then you need to – I still don't think that is attainable. No, I think he's got it.

I think he might have. I think he has it. I'm thinking about a dog. That first one goes down real quick. The first two will probably go down very, very tasty and delicious. What about five, six? Have we thought about five? Zed hasn't eaten today.

Oh, yeah. There was a smoothie with vitamins and everything in it. Open up the stomach. What are we doing? I was like, end of the show. He's like, we've got to stop drinking this. I'm like, no, let's make He's like, gotta stop drinking this. I'm like, no, let's make sure we keep the good stuff going too.

It'll take up space. Smart. We'll go poop or pee or something. Nah, I'm just not gonna drink it. Threw it away. I'm like, get rid of all the bad, all the good stuff. Actually hawk in all the bad stuff. I guess happy 4th of July. That's the 4th, baby.

Alright, so we land on that. That's happening at the end of the show whatever time the end of the show stuff. I guess happy 4th of July. That's the 4th, baby. All right, so we land on that. That's happening at the end of the show, whatever time the end of the show is. So pumped. Let's answer a couple phone calls before we get to a break. Let's go to Corey in Michigan, 5 Energy Funline. What's going on, Corey? How we doing, boys?

Keep it moving. Hell yeah, hell yeah. I need your guys' help settling a debate between me and my friends. We've been going at it for a couple years now. We going Jim Carrey movies or Adam Sandler movies? Well, Jim Carrey, clearly, but to keep up with the kind of my gimmick, Sandman makes the best

movie of all time. Jim Carrey has range, bro. Jim Carrey movies by far. Yeah, Jim Carrey is... I mean, The Truman Show? A wizard. How about the one where he played the guy Land on the Moon? Man on the Moon.

Man on the Moon. Andy Kaufman. The Grinch. Are you kidding me? What's that numbers one? Number 23. Me, myself, and Irene. I mean, Jim Carrey needs not to be being compared to Adam Sandler.

Jim Carrey needs to be being compared to other people. He's an artist now. I think it's unfair. Yeah, I've heard. Very well. I've heard he's done some of that. Adam Sandler is in a much different lane. For sure.

Still bangers. Jim Carrey. Still bangers. Absolute heaters. Yes. Yes. If you see that golf ball in the glass break and it says happy masses. Strap me in.

A banger's coming. The outlaws. Bingo. But Jim Carrey, completely different thing. I don't think that's a fair. If you wanted to compare maybe Sandler's best versus Carrey's best, but the whole catalog's overall, I feel like it's an uneven battle. I agree.

I'm happy we got to the bottom of that. Let's go to Alex in Penn Hills, East Hills of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. What's going on, Alex? Pat Boyd, keep it moving. How you doing? Nailed it. Nope, boom. Do you think the NIL is ever going to adopt a salary cap?

And if so, what do you think that's going to look like? Alex, great question. AJ, to do that, you would need somebody to represent the players in negotiation. I don't know if you're ever going to be able to do that. There's a group right now that is representing the players that is potentially holding up the next creation of 2K. And those people need to know that the 2K creators have the fans that want 2K to happen. And they also have time. Because in a year from now, when you're no longer the people, there's going to be a whole different crew.

What are they going to think and also don't have to give money to everybody we can just give money to the top 20 people that's the whole union for the players is something i haven't been able to conceptualize yet and how you figure out and do it right have you aj no and that's the thing with the nil is nobody knows like you talk to coaches and they're like i don't really know man there's not really rules around like we don't really know if we can do this, if we can do that. It's not clear. It's almost like how the gambling stuff came out for the players

in the NFL at first, where, okay, does this work? Does this work? What are we allowed to do? So salary cap would make sense because you could see some definitely big differences in teams that could bring in tons, millions and millions and other teams that can raise $400,000. I guess a salary cap, though, doesn't have to be negotiated by the players. That can be negotiated amongst the coaches.

Yeah, the team. Whoever it is. Athletic directors, yeah. Just have them in for the game. Then they're monitoring it all? Who's enforcing it? Yeah. I don't think they'll ever do that either because then that kind of limits

boosters giving money to the – because some people, if they're going to donate money to a school and they say like, okay, yeah, but this needs to go to the general scholarship fund as opposed to like the football team. They're like, all right, well, you can shove that up your ass because I'll donate $10 million to the football team right now, but I'm not doing it just for, you know. I think we're in a transition phase.

And anytime you're in a transition phase, obviously it feels longer than when people talk about a transition phase from like 20 30 years ago because you're in the middle of it feels like this is going to take at least one cycle of college yeah to figure out one freshman class that moves in and the next round of recruiting how does it i feel like it's gonna take five six years to kind of figure it all out and that's on the low end. I think that's on the low end. So I'm pumped that we get to experience it. But from all accounts, it's the wild, wild west right now. And there's no slowing down.

There's no slowing down at all. And do those top end guys for the video game even care if they're getting that much money from the video game because they're getting so much money from the schools? Like, are they? Well, money. I think they know. Money is money. It's top 40 comment

the whole um the whole shout out dave coonan 40 under 40 way to go coonan congrats hell yeah friend of the program dude obviously in there um i think they're a lot more entrepreneurial now though too true you know what i mean so like guys not wanting to be in the game at the price in which they're being offered which i think was like 500 bucks for some guys. Yeah, tiny. I very much understand that, and I appreciate their business sense in saying we're worth more than that. But like in this particular case, you're worth what somebody's willing to pay you.

And like 2K will survive without you. Yes. Oh, yeah. And the union that is like taking a stand right now and representing, I hope they have the best interest of the players in their heart and everything like that. But, like, the graduation and turnover, I don't know. They'll figure it out.

People figure it out. They'll figure it out at some point. Good luck, big brains. Good luck, everybody. Go figure that out. I'm sure Ohio State's trying to figure it out as quick as possible. That's right. For sure.

Right, AJ? Everybody's trying to bring in as much money as they can, man. Let's go to Warren in California. Whoa, no, that's not figuring it out. That's the complete opposite. You guys are just trying to take advantage. Well, that's money as they can, man. Let's go to Warren in California. Whoa, no, that's not figuring it out. That's the complete opposite. You guys are just trying to take advantage. Well, that's what NIL is, though. Every NIL school would say,

what do we do to continue to pump up our NIL money? That's what everybody is doing. And we saw what the coach, I believe it was Ryan Day, who said, hey, if we want the five-star quarterback, five-star lineman, five-star wide receiver, they are slotted now as far as money goes. Yeah, and Ohio State has this machine. Yes.

Also, though, which I didn't anticipate is all the transfer with the NIL situation. Oh, this guy's a good player over here. He's a great player for this team, and we'll give you some cash. Come on over to wherever. A little bit bigger school will get paid more money. Like, the transfer thing's crazy. Trent Dilfer said, go ahead and try to pluck my guys. Good luck.

Really? I'll call you out and I'll fight you. I created anti-COVID spray at Lipscomb Academy. Save the world. Trent Dilfer, real deal, said, I dare you to try to come poach my people. I will publicly humiliate you. I'm like, Trent, I respect that. I fucking love that you're saying that.

But Ryan Day, if Ohio State gets a guy from UAB. Give you a million bucks. And you talk shit about Ryan Day. Ryan Day is sleeping so soundly that night. He does not care. And nobody at Ohio State is like, Ryan Day's a bad guy. It will actually go the other way. So I think there's a lot of coaches that are at those smaller schools

that are very much like, so let me get this straight. I find this guy. I recruit this guy. I coach this guy. I make this guy good. Make him a pivotal part of our entire team. And then what? I'm just a feeder system now to these schools that big?

That sucks. I mean, that is not cool at all. But I like that the players are potentially going to get paid for their hard work. So I'm kind of conflicted on how that all works out. What if it's a good player? Like if there's parameters, I don't even know how you would do it. But the school that they are plucked from gets a certain percentage of the – Oh, it's like a buyout in soccer.

Like when you're leasing a player from a club. Jordan Addison. It just happened with him when he had his best year with Pickett. I think he won the bullet in the cough and then Lincoln Riley poached him to USC. Yeah, and Pitt just won the ACC there, which is obviously a whole thing. So USC was at

I don't want to say the bottom, but they were. Yeah, they weren't good. But they had LA behind them. Lincoln Riley. I think the NCAA is much more worried about putting guardrails and trying to fix that as opposed to nil as a whole like that a guy just has a good year and then transfer somewhere else for money because then it's like well what the hell is a letter of intent you know

it's like all that's bullshit then like it's basically free agency if you have one good year and i think to ty's point about what the ncaa cares about and what they don't care about i think the ncaa as an organization has proven that they'll do it right, right? Sure. Let's go to the fans. They're just trying to survive. They just want to make sure they're around. That's all they're trying to do because everyone thinks they're going to be gone.

Yeah. We don't need them. I don't know about these conferences. Man, it seems like they just make dumb decisions all the time. It seems like they focus on the wrong things. It's interesting. Penny Hardaway is suspended for three games because he went and visited a recruit

at the wrong time. Okay. That makes sense. It's because they don't have all the little stupid things anymore to where, hey, I've got to suspend this guy. He accepted a meal from a stranger. Now it's like we've got to find these people and suspend them so we feel good. Hey, we've still got power. Remind them.

Remind these people. We run this. This is our college athletics. You know, it used to not be whenever we sold it to the BCS. We weren't even allowed

to crown a champion. Remember when we did that? The sport that makes the most amount of money. We didn't even, we don't, it would take us out of our hands.

You guys buy the champion. We'll, we'll name the D2 champion. That'll be, that'll be who our champion is. But we are on integrity and certainly about the student athletes.

Always. Strength and honor. Hell yeah. Thank you, NCAA. Love you, NCAA. Is Mitt cooking those hot dogs? Erbo. Erbo's cooking the hot dogs.

Yeah, Mitt's cooking the phones. Let's go to Ryan, who has his grandma, Joyce, if I'm reading what Mitt wrote in here accurately. Ryan and grandma. what's going on? Hey, Pat, I'm going to cue up my grandma. It's her birthday weekend this weekend, so I'm going to put her on.

Am I on? Happy birthday, Grandma! Yeah, Grandma! Hell yeah. I'd rather have to pass back if he's showy than me. That's fake, yeah. Hey, Ryan, hang it up on impersonations.

Think you probably suck at them. You know what I mean? Probably something else. Probably something else. Maybe not the grandma voice. Sounded like the guy from Eight Crazy Nights. Yeah, maybe. A lot of Sandman.

That did kind of sound like a Sandman. A little bit. How was that going to end? What was the plan on? What was the content that was going to happen? Yeah, some sort of zany joke. Zany. Ryan, you still got it.

Just maybe not the grandma. Go back to the drama board. Edge of my seat. Call back and do another one. As far as grandma. Hey, Mitt. Mitt, let's not, you know. Yeah, did Mick get duped by that?

Did the grandma fall? I've got Mitt. What happened there, Mitt? Okay, grandma. I'm on the phones. I've got to refill. Yeah, did Mick get duped by that? Did Grandma call? I've got Mick. What happened there, Mick? Okay, Grandma. I'm on the phones. I've got to refill. Yeah, he does. Does microphones work over there?

You're awesome, Grandma. Mick. He's turned on the board. Mick. Someone's calling. Yeah, you can hear it now. Mick. Panicking.

I can hear the phone ringing. What's up? Hey, what happened there with that Grandma thing? Did you hear the Grandma and put it it through or did ryan say i got my grandma and that whole thing ryan said that he had his grandma i did not hear his grandma oh so no follow-up like hey let me hear if grandma gotta hear grandma's voice yeah i probably should have uh yeah that one's on me no you know this first time for anything i we were just a little bit worried that you heard that and thought, oh. Holy shit, his grandma loves the show. That was not the case, right, Mitt? No, I just thought it was kind of a nice concept of the guy.

I thought it was just a nice thing to do for the guy and his grandma. It was her birthday, too. Thank you, Mitt. You're a hero, Mitt. Nice guy, Mitt. Way to go, Mitt. We appreciate you. Let's go to Warren in California on the 5NG phone line.

What's going on, Warren? Hey, how you doing? Keep it moving, boys. Respect. What part of California? Yuba City. I'm actually like 20 minutes south of where Aaron Rodgers is from. Oh, okay. Upper and Chico. Alright. What do you want to talk about, brother?

Hey, so I got a little bit of a bone to pick with the boys. I love that. Over the past few weeks, you guys weeks, any chance it comes up, we end up talking shit about the Bears and the team they've got going on over there. I think it's a little bit unwarranted. Whoa, the Bears?

I think it's a little bit unwarranted. You guys had the number one overall pick. The only way you can go is up. You can't get the number one overall pick two times in a row. What are you talking about? We're super positive. Yeah, you guys had the number one overall pick. The only way you can go is up. You can't get the number one overall pick two times in a row. We're super positive. Not the Jags. There's reasons for that. I mean, when you roll out a wide receiving

group with fucking Byron Pringle and fucking Amar Marset Smith, what do you think is going to happen? So that's what your team did, though. Your team did that. My team didn't do that. We got the number four overall pick. We didn't do much, but we definitely did better than you guys, but you guys did that.

Not us. Not us, Warren. Well, a lot of that has to do with Ryan Pace and the contract that he gave out to dog shit players. You're talking shit now on the Bears. You're talking shit now on the Bears, Warren. Why are you coming on this show talking shit on the Bears? I got a bone to pick with you, Warren.

Things are looking up in Chicago. Just bringing up the bad things that happened. I'm absolutely looking forward to this season. I don't think that there's any one guaranteed pick on who's going to win the North this year. I think it's a pretty even spread all the way around. I don't think you can count out the Bears with the addition of DJ Moore on the front end. You've got a linebacking core that has TJ Edwards and Tremaine Edmonds. I think it's going to be a good year, and I'm looking forward to it.

Okay, Warren. Well, geez. Us too. Geez. Have a good weekend, Warren. I'm not dogging pay. This guy's talking shit on the Bears. Why is that?

Let polls cook. Geez, Luis. I do like that the Bears seemingly are going to be good this year. Yeah, very positive things. What's that, Ty? Are they? Yeah, everyone thinks so. Yeah, they completely changed their entire team.

Yep. Ty was so disgusted when I said that. His face, he almost puked. They've been making stats up for the Bears, though. Did you see the one that had Justin Fields at number one that was like, the best touchdown interception ratio in the fourth quarter with five minutes against winning teams? Hashtag stat that.

Let's get to a break. Hour three will be on the other side. We're pulling for everybody. Yeah. Want everyone to win the Super Bowl. ELE. Even the Vikings. Yeah.

Even the Vikings. That's right. I thought we had a pretty good relationship with the Vikings. Me too. Turns out. Coming after me, man. Coming after me. What'd you do? I said Dalvin Cook helped Justin Jefferson. And I might have said Run game opens up the pass game. I think that's what I said.

I don't know. Whatever. Yeah. Okay. It is a cool part of life right now. It's a cool part of life right now it's a cool part of life where nothing really in this because baby i think changes everything sure you're like when i get home i'm worried about like making sure there's a bottle ready when this baby starts screaming for the wife i'm worried about like hey do we have the diapers that we need? Is the trash good?

Is the food here? That whole thing. As opposed to what's been. It's been a pretty freeing feeling. Now, that being said, during the season, I like to read everything and see everything because I want to know everything. Of course. It's going to get so loud those first couple weeks on ESPN. It's already starting right now.

Yeah, very loud. And all these people, all these people that are blaming, well, I think they're blaming me. Yeah, they're mostly blaming you. You're getting all the shots. They're blaming me for all this stuff. They're probably, if they have talent, which we assume

everybody does, they're going to end up working other places. They're going to be so jaded about what we're... Oh my God. There's some real talented people that are let go, too. And they are going to go pen to pad. Praying on the downfall. About us. Even the ones that didn't let go.

That their friends got let go. Oh my God. Also going to be jaded. Boom. So sad about it, too. Yeah, very bummed. About getting buried. Yeah, and anybody who would be upset in the entire world. I agree.

We don't like the people we're upset about. It happens when you're nice. It stinks. That's what happens when you're nice. That's what happens when you compliment. Yeah, that's why we are anti-compliments now. Oh, yeah. Do we want to say something nice?

Because it's feel-good Friday about somebody? Yeah, I've eased up on that. Because last night I was watching the match and I was like, look at these guys. They're having fun. Look at you. And you know what? I appreciate that.

Today's the smack-off on Jim Rome. 20th year. Exactly. 23rd smack-off. Clones. I said this morning I cannot wait to hear Brad and Corona's call. That's complicated. I love Jim Rome.

So do I. He's always been very good to me and to us. Malaria! But you saying what you just said right there, if Jim Rome was maybe a fragile person, he'd be like, look at them, making fun of this. It's like, no. I love Jim Rome. Nobody takes anything we say seriously, which at them making fun of this. It's like, no. I love Jim Rome. Nobody takes anything we say seriously, which is a problem.

Bullshit. Maybe I need to look inward. Me too. We all do. Maybe we all need to look inward. That's what we need to do these four years. Or four days, I'm saying. Everybody look inside.

Let's reflect. Let's find the best versions of us. Okay? So that when we say things about people, they think we actually mean what we're saying. They're never going to believe us. I got ayahuasca for everybody, so wherever you're at this weekend, do it. Look in at yourself. Guess what? I'm on ayahuasca. I think when you take ayahuasca,

you're looking down on yourself, not in at yourself. Because I believe your soul like does it. Yeah, levitating in a celestial state. You're also not... Right, AJ? You know what you did whenever you went on ayahuasca with Aaron? I have not done it, but I don't know. I've heard multiple different stories. It affects everybody differently, I think.

Okay. Oh, what have you heard? I want to hear. I want to hear. Everything, you know. What is it? Mother? What is it?

Mother God or whatever. There's all kind of buzzwords out there that really get you dialing in. Buzzwords. Let's all think about those buzzwords this weekend. Okay. And let's look in where we are going to get absolutely murdered for the foreseeable future. That's fine. Looking forward to it.

Listen, boys, it's time to buckle down and just know that our shins are about to get buckled. Well, that's because, you know what? That's fine. We got grit. We got sound paper. We have job. And we got shin guards. Boom.

One of them at least. Shout out to Stephon Diggs. Fashion. How about first day of me just wearing those shin guards on the sbn that'd be a good gimmick ready for armor full armor oh yeah catcher's gear what we will say is there is like 14 15 of us you know I mean? We are an entire business and company that is just fully creating something and delivering it. It's a little

different situation, I do believe. But hate us if you'd like. We won't read it. Because we're busy with our babies. But also, if you would like to tag me in it as well, I will read it, and I will bookmark it,

and I will remember just for future cases. And maybe you can look inward too. Bingo, yeah. And I will. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the people that are sending them. I know. Yeah, maybe.

Yeah. But also, if you want to lash out, direct your eye to me. I can take it. Lash out irrationally. Shout out to the Santa Claus. Cannot wait for fucking holiday season. Oh, man. Oh, my God.

There's some shit popping off on the internet from NFL team social media. And we all remember the Denver Broncos a year ago with the let's ride of course all the cuts from behind the scenes that we don't know if Russell Wilson knew was going to be made public but obviously once it was made public the whole world

and the public had an opinion about it and it took over everything this year the Denver Broncos social media team said we're going to one up this thing we're going to do some physicality we're going to get our players really wheeling and dealing our players are going to be some physicality. We're going to get our players really wheeling and dealing. Our players are going to be showcased on social

media better than anybody else. This is the new let's ride. This is the let's climb. You can buck them. We will ride them and climb them. Ladies and gentlemen, the Denver Broncos put this onto the internet. Good job, Kylie. You're doing amazing, sweetie.

Wow, look at her go. What? I have no idea. What's the voiceover about? I assume it's something. It's from the Kardashians? Yeah, it's from Keeping Up with the Kardashians, I believe. Go, Kylie, go.

I want to know. So the tweet came in from Broncos Avenue, I believe, which I think is a podcast. I don't know if it's associated with the team. But did the team actually put this? Yeah, where was this recorded? So he's wearing his uniform. It's got to be the team.

The team had to make this. Yeah. The assumption is that it's Mike McGlinchey because he, I believe, is 69. They just got him in free agency. Yeah, it's like stuff they're going to for promo videos or maybe on the scoreboard when they run between quarters and all that stuff. And if you're going to add some animation to this and a different angle, that's cool.

Tell you what, he's a good actor, though. He's acting like it's a tough climb. It's tough to get to the top of the AFC West. I guess you could possibly put the whole thing together, and I'm sure the final product that maybe they'll show on the stadium or whatever is good, but this is another situation these social media teams making a player look like a fucking asshole. You know what I mean?

Not that this guy didn't know. Maybe he thought he looked incredible, and we are all kind of forgetting about it. I've seen this video floating around the internet a couple times, though, and I just thought to myself, why do the Broncos social media team continue to do what the Broncos social media team do? Probably because of such big numbers. They probably took the let's ride thing as like a compliment and a good job ah you know what i mean

like hey well we everybody else is trying to emulate what we're doing it's a good job when a lot of us were like why you do it why uh why we don't have to do this to do our thing but let's ride did take over it did it did and i'm excited to see what this did so good on him for doing that and creating viral sensations is it possible that he is auditioning for a potential comeback of Global Guts? Looks like he's kind of climbing the aggro crag a little there. I mean, that's a Mickey Mouse aggro crag. Live-action Lion King, potentially? Could be.

Oh. That would make more sense. Yeah. What's his thing, Bokum? Maybe a horse is at the top. Could be. Trying to get back to his horse. Mm-hmm.

I do appreciate how much they've put into this. Yeah, that set. The lighting. Look at the set. Jeez. Hopefully multiple players get to use this set. I mean, that would be a waste if only one. But if they got the shot, they got the shot.

Look, he went through some storms there as he hit that last one. Is that a laser tag arena maybe? Might be. Why isn't Russell Wilson riding his back? Exactly. That'd be cool. That's a great question. Honestly, I don't don't know why we don't know the final product we can't really make it a determination until we see what this looks like when it's finished yeah but we can't make a

determination about us being sick of seeing behind the scenes videos from denver bronco shoots and make players look like assholes that's fair release the actual thing that's kind of but hey numbers is numbers you guys are doing great. Yeah. Keep it going. Trust the climb. And shout out to him buying in. Yeah. All in. Buying in.

First thing he's doing. You need me to bear crawl up a fake mountain? You got it. When you get to the plateau and need you to struggle, we're going to do a light thing like a storm. What's Sean Payton saying as soon as he sees that, you think? What if he's at the top of the mountain? Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. Who wants to join the team yeah who's willing to do whatever who's ever to who's ready to fight and call for every inch that we're going to need to get to the to get to the lombardia that's right what if that's what sean payne said what if he set that entire thing he might have it might this might not even be a thing that was supposed to get out to the public. This might be a team-building exercise that he started. Oh, I didn't even think that. Get up to the top, trust fall. Yeah. Into everybody. So this was just

sneakily taken by somebody not associated with the Broncos who didn't know that they're kind of breaking the inner circle here, much like we heard from a faith conversation on a Zoom with a former quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bingo. Let's get to the phones. You know what I'm talking about, Tony. I don't.

Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. You twist it. Yeah. Pull it. Pull it. Bop it. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Yeah.

Thought we were past that. Flick it. Yeah. Well, it should have never been something. I agree. Should have never been something. There agree. Should have never been something. There's only one person to blame. And that's what we're talking about whenever we're talking about these types of things.

Like the shoots themselves, we're cool with. But the behind the scenes, wanting clout, kind of not even thinking about what somebody potentially looks like on camera, just that they get to be there. These are our dancing monkeys out here is my issue. Probably one of those business people that Stink was talking about that just gets to go anywhere. How about that? That's wild.

How about that? Now, that started happening, I think, with the Colts there. So as he was saying that, I was like, I just assumed that was the new norm everywhere. Like, hey, everybody in the building gets to eat because there's no job too small. We're all in this thing. And it certainly did ruin, like, the cafeteria experience.

Yeah, for sure. Nobody's talking shit in the cafeteria anymore whenever there's potentially a ticket salesperson right next to it. I like that Sean Payton was like, I don't know what happened to the NFL in the last couple years with me not being here, but this is not how this works. Not my NFL. That's probably what he's saying, too, with that video.

Okay, I spent a year being on social media. I know what hits. This is what we're going to do. Oh, you think he's the one that choreographed that? Yeah. There's a chance. You're going to climb up here. I'm going to be at the top of them.

We're going to drop you into everybody else. Let's go to Ward and Harrisburg on the 5 Energy Frontline. We'll take two, three calls here as these hot dogs get cooked for Zito to attempt the impossible. Hell yeah. Remember, if Zito is able to eat seven and a half hot dogs in five minutes, we will give 35 people $500. All you will have to do is retweet the video of Zito eating said hot dogs. 15, man. I don't know. Maybe Zeke does it in like two and a half minutes and he finishes them all.

We have made some compromises. And by that, it's because I have little to no faith that he would be able to eat seven and a half hot dogs in five minutes. Now, I might be completely wrong. It just feels like the action of getting through those hot dogs would take longer than five minutes. Yeah. So we are doing two hot dogs on three buns, so that would be six dogs there. Then he has to do one dog, one bun, and then half dog, half bun. So that will be six dogs there. Then he has to do one dog,

one bun, and then half dog, half bun. So that'll be the seven and a half hot dogs. He has five minutes to take that all down. And he is adding mustard. Feels like that's a much more attainable with the two dogs, one bun.

AJ, your thoughts is we're about five to 10 minutes away from Zito accomplishing or attempting to accomplish his feat for the United States of America's birthday. Well, let's say, what if he eats the first one? Two dogs, one bun. Boom. And then he says, no, forget this. He jams four hot dogs, no bun, shoves that down his mouth,

and then he eats the bread later. Is that okay? Yes, for sure. Absolutely okay. Now, I don't know what that's going to do with the mustard. Yeah. Mustard's going to be tough there. Yeah, I don't know when he's going to do with the mustard. Yeah. Mustard's going to be tough there. Yeah, I don't know when he's going to eat the mustard.

Is it just mustard bun? We can all agree the bread's the hardest part. And we eliminated three of the buns. How are the dogs prepared, can I ask? Jay Curbstreet, who's never done it before, he decided he would be the guy that does it, which we appreciate. And he made it in a little conventional oven over there. Correct.

Perfect. Oven? Yeah. Bake them? You can just made it in a little conventional oven over there. Correct. Perfect. Oven? Yeah. Conventional. You can bake them. You can just put them in a microwave or oil. So the thing about in the, to get eight of them made, it felt like the little.

Two racks. Was just quick. Just slide them in. That's done. I trust it. Yeah. And Erbo said he was watching YouTube. I've never done this before.

Check YouTube. He was watching YouTube videos on how to do it. How to make a hot dog. Yes. The guy will fucking, hey, he'll do it. He will? He will absolutely do it. See, I think there's too many buns over there.

Is that the proper amount of buns there? He hasn't doubled up the dogs yet. We'll figure that out. Let's do two phone calls here, and then we'll get into it, and then hopefully we're giving 35 people 500 bucks. Let's go. Let's go to Kyle in Colorado. What's going on, Kyle?

Pat, boys, happy feel-good Friday. How we doing? Hey, great. How are you? Good, Pat. People have to stop calling every player that gets drafted, number one overall, a generational talent. There's not enough respect on it.

Amongst the four major sports drafts, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, statistically speaking, all of these kids, if not one or two, maybe three that are drafted this year, will stink. Stap that. This brings me to my question. What year do you think was the most dominant and number one overall picks across the board? Just number one picks.

1974. Wow, that draft was a good one. Yeah, loaded. For example, 93, Drew Bledsoe, Chris Weber, Alexandre Daigle, Alex Rodriguez, maybe 2003, Carson Palmer, LeBron James, Marc-Andre LaFleur. Who is Peyton Manning? When Peyton won number one overall, who else was over there? LeBron James, Marc-Andre LaFleury. Who the fuck is that? Who is Peyton Manning? When Peyton won number one overall, who else was over there?

Yeah. Peyton Manning? Yeah. 97, wasn't it? Yeah, I think so. Doesn't have that shorthand, it sounds like. He went in 98 with a bunch of guys you've never even heard of. Shit.

I don't think anybody was calling Bryce Young generational in the NFL, but to your point, there is a lot of hope before somebody even gets into the pros. I think Wemby is the one that everybody's just assuming is going to be the game breaker and game changer. I hope he goes on to do it. It'd be good for sport if he was to. Yeah, this year, actually,

if you look at it and what they say about Bedard, that he's like Crosby, he's the next guy. Wemby, obviously. If Bryce Young, from what they're saying in camp, kind of turns into what he's supposed to be, this super genius football guy, processes everything. I have zero clue who the MLB guy is. And Skeen.

Paul Skeen or Dylan Cruz. Yeah. In reality. Well, the reality is Paul Skeen is is unbelievable and what about cruz he's generational talent so it kind of depends what your franchise needs more because here in this because in this country the reality is you probably need a guy like skeens okay what about other countries that play baseball yeah well the reality is you're hoping that you get a guy who can do both like shohei otani who also is a generational talent so the

reality is we really don't know what the correct answer is what's your favorite type of music barth grooks last phone call here how about tom segura oh man him actually going there are stats years this is years in the making he and his wife have been on the garth brooks trip yeah it's awesome i know once i started getting into the tom segura stuff i would start following this is years in the making, obviously, but the where's the bodies? It's Garth Brooks' people had to be so flustered. Oh, my God. Holy shit. That was like when part of my take was, hey, JJ, for the JJ Watt stuff,

that was like a year and a half, two years, every single time he tweeted, Garth Brooks, the same exact thing. Oh, and then Garth Brooks, every time someone brings it up to him, just, hey, look at this guy, huh? Watching him blow out his knee. Karma. That's karma. Last phone call here.

Let's go to Clint in Virginia on the 500 phone line. Thank you for calling, Clint. Segura should be part of the match. Bingo. Hey, how we doing, boys? Keep it moving, right? Hell yeah, Clint. Bam.

Hey, I just want to give a shout out to my boys in the HMD crew, but also I had a question for you, Pat. Like, you do feel the beat for football, right? Clint. Bam. Hey, I just want to give a shout-out to my boys in the HMD crew, but also I had a question for you, Pat. You do feel the beat for football, right? Uh-huh. What about doing a feel-the-beat for MLB and NBA, like getting Dallas Braden in or something, just to keep you guys more entertained by baseball and basketball? Love Dallas Braden.

That's actually a pretty good call. Thank you, Clint, for doing that. We do maybe need to do the mayor, and then we just have Jed at the end every time? Tim Curgin. That's the problem is feel-the-beat is typically beat writers. We're doing that. We do maybe need to. The mayor. Sure. And then we just have Jed at the end every time. Tim Curgeon. That's the problem is feel the beat is typically beat writers. Like you don't want baseball beat writers.

You know, those are like national people that we would be getting. What about NHL beat writers? What about that? Well, that man's a national reporter. He's not a beat writer. Oh, okay. I didn't know. I didn't know.

Whatever. That happened this week. Yeah. What a guy. Ty's got you guys make up. Oh, okay. I didn't know. I didn't know. Whatever. That happened this week. Yeah. What a guy. Ty's guy. You guys make up, Ty? You good? Calabrini?

I don't know if we're ever going to be making up. Yeah, you guys are going to be friends. You guys are going to be friends. You guys are in the same business. He's been in longer. He's welcomed you in his business. Yep. Close friends.

He'll show you the ropes. He will. Very nice of him. The time has come. Here we go. I would like to let everybody know that what is about to be attempted is something that, although it certainly was

projected by my mouth, not necessarily one that I would like to recommend for anybody. We think you should eat healthy. Always. For sure. We think you should be healthy. But if you are presented in a unattainable goal

or an undoable task, I hope everybody does have the same goal that this man had when he learned of a potential challenge to celebrate the United States of America's birth coming up on Tuesday. This man is Zito.

The task that seems impossible is seven and a half hot dogs in five minutes. Now, that is Jake Herbstreet. Erbo cooked hot dogs for the first time here just moments ago. He did not get the entire memo, but he did adjust here. Zito will have two dogs in three different buns. So that'll be six of the hot dogs, three buns. He will have one dog in one bun, and then he will have a half a dog in another half bun.

That is seven and a half dogs, four and a half buns. Five minutes will be the time that he will have to accomplish this task. Do we have a clock to run in the back there? Yeah, I'm figuring that out right now. All right. As you figure that out, we'll go around the room and get some projections. Zito is topping his dog with mustard. He's from Chicago.

I feel like he takes a lot of pride in his dog-eating abilities, and I feel like this is going to be something he figures out. Connor, just a quick take on what you think Zito is about to do here in front of all of us yeah zito's a gamer uh we talked about this yesterday with mahomes and kelsey he's a gamer he is going to show up when the lights are bright i think he gets it done with 40 you know 40 45 seconds still on the clock okay so that's one yes he can oh yeah ty your quick thoughts i don't know about time wise but i forgot that these hot dogs are Vienna beef, which Zeke absolutely loves.

If we're talking Hebrew National or Ballpark Frank, I don't know if this is going through, but with Vienna beef being the dog of choice, I think Zeke's got it. Okay, that's two yeses that Zeke will get the job done. Tone Diggs. Yeah, looking at this in front of me, this is a feat that Zeke can do in his sleep. Okay, that's three yeses and quite a bar from Tone Diggs there. A.J. Hawk live in an attic in Ohio.

What do you think? I think he does it in four minutes flat. He looks like a king sitting down at the head of the table for a feast. Royal Zeke getting celebrated in Nashville. That is four people saying yes. Billy McComas' head at the bottom of the screen. You look great. Five

minutes right there on the screen will go. Zito, whenever you put that first dog in your mouth, that clock will start. First thoughts as you look at what you actually have to accomplish now as it lays in front of you, Zito? This is easy.

This is going to be a little difficult. Okay. I think. I think. All right, Zito. If Zito's able to accomplish this, 35 people will win $500 going into Fourth of July weekend. We will be back on Wednesday. Let's remember that.

Zito, the floor is yours, pal. Here you go, Zito. Out of Chicago, Illinois. Let's go, Zito. Come on. Here we go, Zito. Here we go. Clock starts. Yes. Let's go, Zeke. Come on. Here we go, Zeke. Here we go. Clock starts. Yes.

Let's go. 457, Zeke. Nothing but time. Plenty of time. Nothing but time. Zito. How fast do you go? Don't you pace yourself?

What'd you say, AJ? I wonder. Yeah, there's like some strategy. How do you pace yourself? How fast do you go? What do you do? See, I'm thinking those first two dogs on the bun. I'm trying to get out of there as quick as possible.

Yeah, I agree. Before my brain tells me, like, hmm, a lot of stuff going down my gullet right now, I'm trying to get through it. Ty, is that probably what you're thinking? Yeah, I think so, too. But also, I know how much Zeke loves Vienna beef hot dogs. I want him to at least enjoy the first couple.

Okay, so he's savoring the opportunity right now. Okay. Knowing that there has been half a minute already off the clock. I thought we would be going at a potentially quicker pace. That's fine. When something tastes as good as that tastes. Nothing but time. He knows that he's going to close when he needs to.

He's just enjoying what he has right now. Zito, remember, you're allowed to leave one-sixth of the bun. You don't have to eat the entirety of the bun. That's about one-sixth right there. There's two dogs down! Two dogs down for Zito going into this Fourth of the butt. That's about one six right there. That's two dogs down. Two dogs down for Zito going into this 4th of July weekend.

AJ, what are your first reactions here as he swigs on a liquid death water with chipmunk-like cheeks? I mean, the pace and the confidence is unbelievable that Zito's showing right now. He's not stressed.

We're a minute 20 in, and he's starting on those third and fourth dogs. We thought the – There is no urgency here. Not at all. I'm a joke now. Come on. Well, that was kind of a part of the – Do we want to get a puke bucket, or are we just thinking Bill, lick it up if he – All right.

It's Fourth of July weekend, Field Day Friday. Bill will not have to do that, obviously, Bill. I'm happy you could not hear what Nick just said, but remember Zito at one point when he heard about this challenge said 15 is the amount of dogs he could eat in a five-minute period. My eyes might have been bigger than my mouth.

No, no, no. You've still got time. Three minutes, Zito. Three minutes. Nice big bites you're taking. Would you like a cup of water maybe for these last three minutes? We are two minutes into this thing and we are nowhere near halfway done but that does not matter. We got nothing but time.

Yeah, just need to be halfway by 2.30. You got no problem right now. How are the hot dogs cooked? How did Urbo do? A little rough. A little rough. Yeah, I figured that might be the case. He's never done it before. He literally didn't tell us until what? A minute before it was happening? Should have known. I've never done it before. He literally didn't tell us until what? A minute before it was happening? Should have known.

I've never done this before, obviously. Why didn't Bill do this? I said, why'd you offer up to do it? He said, I was told to do it. Why didn't you say like?

I don't know how to make hot dogs. I don't know how to do it. Herbie also did it. There we go. We're about to bring the water in there if you want to do the old dip and rip. Like Joey, Josh,

Chestnut, Will on the 4th of July. Zito up. Boom. Herbie. That's a sixth of July. Zito up. Boom. That's a six and a bun. Four dogs down. Two buns down. Wish Herbo would have made some for the rest of us.

Zito's got three and a half dogs left. How do you feel, Zito? I don't know if we need to do a mid-interview. Yeah, we should have talked to him. You should focus. AJ, how many of these dogs do you think you could suck down your fucking suckle? Nice question.

I wonder. I really do wonder. I don't know. I really don't. Minute 50 left. At least 10. How many can you do, Pat? I don't know. I'm looking at that one hot dog at the top of his plate and I'm thinking to myself, I haven't had a hot dog in a long time. I'm getting sick. Are you? I'm not going to lie. I kind of am too. I would like to myself, I haven't had a hot dog in a long time. I'm getting sick. Are you? I'm not going to lie.

I kind of am, too. Yeah. Oh, I would like to eat that. Yes, I am. I might never have a hot dog again. Turbo! I get a chance to experience what Zeke, he tossed me a French. You're not going to finish anyway, is that what you mean?

Come on, Zeke. Keep going. Great. Great grenade sauce, Zeke. Come on, Zeke. You can do this. Dip him. Dip him.

A little mustard water never hurt anybody. You didn't have to dip. I might throw up. Seriously? Yeah. This isn't making you want to have hot dogs? Not even a little. Really?

Yeah. Bill, get ready. No, I'd pull the bill and just throw up into my shirt. That would be smart. That's a gamer move. Yeah. Minute left, Vito. Now he knows.

He's been fucking with us this whole time. Here we go, Z. That's how you close, Z. That's how you close. He's going to eat one and a half in three seconds here. Win. 40 seconds, Z. Water, water.

It just has to be in your mouth, right? 35 people, $500. You got dunked in the last couple. They have time to chew. They have to stick their tongue out and show they're done. Hey, listen, if he gets those in his gullet in the next 30. What? You got it.

I think Zeke's hurting a bit. 15. He said 15. I love it. I love it. He'd be disappointed if he could get 15. Here said 15. 15. I love it. I love it. He'd be disappointed if he could get 15. Here we go. You got 15 seconds. Yeah.

Hey, six and a half, also a feet. Well. Jam those things right down your throat. These were cooked like shit, too. Yeah. That actually wasn't that bad. Chewing on a dog toy. It was a little tough.

I mean, it was a little gritty, but it didn't taste that bad. There you go. I thought it was calm or cooked. All you got to do is eat them up. All right. That was a big gritty, but it didn't taste that bad. There you go. That's a big one. That a baby. For the good of America. Oh my goodness. Happy birthday, America.

Nobody wins. That's right. We wanted to. You just enjoyed that one. You earned that one. Enjoy that dessert. He said 15 dogs. He'd be. Enjoy it. He said 15 dogs when we asked him. He'd be disappointed if it didn't get 15. This guy, Bonda, right now, who says when he's at work,

he'll just kind of tune in every once in a while. He'll see Jose, and he'll say, oh, I got a baby Jose, and then he'll just kind of tune out. I hope Bonda and Danny and Nico and the boys all tuned in for that. And I don't know if they'll be disappointed, embarrassed, or impressed. I'd like to let you know, pretty impressive feat. You just took that away. That was unbelievable.

Six dogs in five minutes, which is more than I thought. I thought five. And everybody was looking at me like I was a fucking crazy person. Bruce wanted 10. Wanted Z to die here in the moment. Seven and a half, seemingly not the right number. Six and a half, probably the right number. Seven and a half. Seemingly not the right number. Six and a half probably the right number. Six and a half was the one.

Hey, you did good, Zito. I'm going to finish this one. I'm going to throw up. Hell yeah. Before Fourth of July. I'm like sweating. I'm lightheaded right now. Why?

I think it's the smell while watching it happen. The smell of what? The smell of the dogs. Chewing? Of mustard? I cannot smell the dogs. I cannot smell the dogs. I can smell the dogs. I was smelling one that was getting cooked. You don't like hot dogs?

I don't mind hot dogs, but I don't like them anymore. Alright, Zito. If I make this... I'm not going to. I forgot what I did this morning. Oh yeah, you're swinging. Just times it by two. Just put two X. Maybe a this morning. Oh, yeah. You're swinging. Times by two. Put 2x. Maybe a little jump. Skyhook.

Skyhook. From lifting or swinging a golf club? I'm boxing motherfuckers again. Oh, that's right. Okay. Yeah. Pretty real deal. Yeah, plural. Five guys. First reality headset, you mean?

By real deal. No, that's boxing. My hand got raised by the rest believe me great workout i agree i actually left the ring before they could raise my hand every single time because i was too tired to do that so i just said i'm out of here still one i didn't get a chance to take an applause it's not about the applause from the arena yeah you didn't want to show both it's not about the fans it's about me knocking out fucking Spider from Taiwan or Thailand. I forget where he's from. He's 6'9".

I fought a 6'9 guy this morning. That's Kendrick Perkins. I was doing this one right here. I was doing the fucking overhead. Windmill. Right through his jaw. Shoulders tight. Arms are tight. Wow. Don't matter.

35 people, $500. All you got to do is retweet this video, say something nice to somebody, and put the most efficient way to pay you so that we can do that. We are so incredibly thankful we get to do this for a living. For this 4th of July extended weekend, we hope that we all get a chance to kind of look inward, look backwards, and then obviously look forward to what is to come, where we will all live, hopefully in a place that we all get a chance to kind of look inward, look backwards, and then obviously look forward to what is to come, where we will all live

hopefully in a place that we all dream of. We are very lucky to be Americans. We feel that way. Obviously, not everything's perfect, but it will only get better because all of us would like it to. There's always going to be assholes. There has been for a long, long time. We can't let them distract us. Let's keep going forward.

Let's enjoy the hell of this weekend. AJ, great work this week, AJ. Talks on the table. Great work this week, boys. Hey, that mullet needs to enjoy this Independence Day. Big thank you to Tone Diggs on this week. Hammer Dime, quite a wave. Zito, great work on those dogs. Boys in the back,

great work, great work, great work. Tell everybody to stop by and give us a conversation. We can't thank you enough. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change their life. Have an incredible weekend. Goodbye.