The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 941 - It's Officially Tahoe Week, + Shams Charania, Peyton Manning LIVE From Italy, Jim Irsay, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 10, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the American Century Championship as it is officially Tahoe Week, and check in on the odds of some of the players in the field, as well as how Pat is feeling going into year 2. They also discuss DeAndre Hopkins getting a more aggressive offer from the Titans, the release of Netflix’s “Quarterback,” on July 12, the Northwestern football hazing scandal, and everything else happening in the sports world. Joining the program to chat about the Summer League in Las Vegas, Victor Wembanyama showing out, where Dame Lillard is going to wind up, and an update on Zion Williamson is NBA Insider for The Athletic and Stadium, Shams Charania (31:02-48:04). Next, Hall of Famer, 2x Super Bowl Champion, 5x NFL MVP, the brain behind Omaha Productions, Peyton Manning joins the show to chat about the upcoming Netflix series “Quarterback,” that he was heavily involved in via Omaha Productions and NFL Films, if he would’ve done something like that early in his career, why QB is the hardest position in sports, and when season 2 of “Quarterback,” starts filming (1:02:44-1:14:57). Later, owner of the Indianapolis Colts, Jim Irsay joins the show to chat about the Jim Irsay Collection and his upcoming concert in Boston, setting up his collection as a museum one day, his thoughts on the Colts this year, where the NFL is going in the future including Europe, his work trying to get Lolita out of captivity, when we’re going to Mars, and much more (1:21:45-2:08:54). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdale. On this Monday, July 10th, 2023, this sports program starts right now. Sports! Are happening. Hey, Home Run Derby tonight. All-Star Game tomorrow. ESPYs on Wednesday. It's a great time. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. A lot happened. We will dive into

all of it. The Talks at Table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Corner and at Boston Corner's Mullet. Looking great after a good weekend in Indy, I heard. Yeah, unbelievable weekend. You know, Indiana, sometimes I do just hit the ball out of the park, and they did this weekend. You know, I got to experience a lot of different things. Went to the PXG store, one of the

nicest places I've ever been in in my entire life. Absolutely first class from all parties not only the gear not only you know the hats they had but the people working there were incredibly polite they were quick we were in and out it really was a fantastic weekend so it sounds like you just uh went out of your way to say a lot of things there what's that indiana, it was certainly a weekend. I never thought of it. Yes. I'll never forget. I've heard stories from the downtown boys all morning about you guys having a blast.

We did. That's what I've heard. I heard live music was happening. Oh, unbelievable. I heard they were dancing. Get some sun. Everybody. Those drinks.

Yeah. So I like the fact that you said, you know what? That PXG story is fantastic. Because it is. Yeah. It stood out. Sounds like you did not believe a lot of the things you were saying there, though. No, I mean, I was told things about the story in particular.

My friend said it took him a while to get his stuff and to check out. And I said, whoa, slow your roll, buddy. That is not the PXG story that I've been to because it was perfect. Okay, well, I appreciate you forcing a PXG plug in there at the beginning. PXG will be very thankful. It is Tahoe week. I can't wait to get out there, man. I'm very, very excited. I've been putting in a little bit of work in that golf simulator up there.

In that full swing simulator upstairs, I've been putting in some work. I appreciate full swing too. They've gotten in and been like, hey, how do we help? How can we help? What do you need? Fix that thing. They have been fantastic. So the golf world has welcomed us with open arms. At Tone Diggs, one half of the hammer.

Dad! Cowboys. I don't know if you saw it. Miz was plus. Yeah, plus 250,000. To win, you know, with numbers and odds that big, you almost have to sprinkle a little bit of change on it, don't you? I think you have to because when you dress as good as he does on the golf course

and the approach and the setup and just the whole kind of how he goes about playing the game, you know, he's got to eventually find it. Now, did he come in dead last year? No. Robert Griffin did. Yeah, triple six. He's been having a home run hitting. We got a derby tonight?

Yeah. That's what we were calling Robert Griffin in social media, right? Yeah. I think it's a home run derby. Dialed in on track and field. But, I mean, Miz will get sprinkled on. You know, I'm just excited to bet on it because, you know, I love betting on everything, and there's not a lot going on right now.

Obviously, baseball is on a break. All right, so let me tell you this, and I know you're a contrarian, and you like to bet the books and read the books and everything like that. Warren Sharpe. Do not expect... Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, Tone's already read it front and back. I didn't like the shot he took at the Colts in his response to

Diana Rossini, which I appreciate Diana Rossini using his book and her thing. Okay, Warren Sharpe literally wrote the book of football, but the shot at the horses, there was no reason. Now, I will say this, though. shot at the horses, there was no, no reason. Now I will say this though. Tone likes to do all the contrarian stuff. So he'll say, yeah, plus 250,000.

How could you not just sprinkle a little bit on there? Right. Don't bet on the Miz. He sucks at golf. He's so bad, but he has worked so hard. He had lessons from Ricky Fowler a week ago. Wow. Xander Shoffley a week ago.

He lives on a golf course. He's been golfing like three to four times a week for the last, I don't know, five, six months. And he just said last week on his Instagram, it's broken. Not good. Everything he's worked on has basically just been forgot. The guy doesn't have it anymore. I don't know what the deal is. The Miz, he's incredibly talented at everything he does.

You put a microphone in his hand, you're going to want to listen. You're going to want to do it. He's been wrestling in everything he does. You put a microphone in his hand, you're going to want to listen. Crushes. You're going to want to do it. He's been wrestling in WWE for so long, very rarely misses a day because he's in such great shape. He focuses on golf all in. I'm afraid, though, that that guy's never going to be able to fucking hit a golf ball good.

Yeah, really. He loves it. He wants it. He's a great guy, too. Want the best for him. I don't know about great guy. Oh, really? He's a great guy, too. Want the best for him. I don't know about great guy. Oh, really? He's a good guy.

Yeah, you saw him. Sometimes. He was kind of, you know, he's kind of a card down there at WrestleMania. Yeah, he pumps his gums and he's got tiny balls. But, I mean, that doesn't mean he's not a great guy. Yeah, valid. You're right. 100% right.

He shouldn't take away from the goodness of a man there just because he's got little itty-bitty balls. Every once in a while he starts speaking out of pocket and acts like a card every once in a while. Browns fan. From Ohio. Doesn't mean he's not a good guy. You're right. He is a good guy. Do not bet on him. The people to bet on though, like Tony Romo's gonna

want this. He is the favorite. Steph Curry's gonna want this. Big time. Joe Pavelski. What? I mean, I saw him. I don't know if I'm comfortable betting on Steph Curry. I hope he goes out there and plays, but after watching the match, I just don't know how he can. It's Romo and Marty Fish who are the favorites.

Well, Marty Fish has been chirping a little bit on the internet at me. He needs not worry about top 40 players, which is what my goal is. My goal is top 40 this year. Top 50, obviously, is something that I should be shooting for. Yes. Second time in this.

But I've been saying top 30, so I've negotiated with myself. It feels like top 40 is the right expectation here, and I won't leave miserable. I will at least feel good about the whole. Next year, though, we're going top 10. You have to. Okay, next year, we're trying to go top 10. This year, though, we're going top 10. You have to. Okay, next year, we're trying to go top 10. This year, though, top 40.

We've learned a lot about golf over the last month and a half in that full swing simulator. These PXGs, and yes, they are our official partner in the golf world. Let's go. Hell yeah. Come on. We announced that last week. That's hilarious. Huge.

That should not be happening for us. We're very thankful. But these PXgs are so forgiving they're like they're a tag team partner down there almost i'm hitting it off the head of the fucking club and off the heel of the club and it's still you know still going in the direction so if i'm not searching for balls yeah and behind trees and everything like that not searching for balls yeah and behind trees and everything like that what an advantage that is yeah for how good of a time i'm gonna have golfing yes right and if i'm gonna have a good time golfing normally i'm gonna do probably better when i'm having a good time so i think the pxgs are making me feel better more confident have a better time which ipso facto should make me a better golfer

and has made me a better golfer on the simulator we are not 100 sure though no when we get out on grass we touched grass last week we touched grass one other time so this will be my third time on a course this year that's an aggressive decision tony romo lives at a golf course he does every other day the ms lives at a golf course but you don't need to do a two and a half three three hour calisthenic warm up to get your back going before the start of the round. That's what Romo has to do. You go on there, you get a good range session and you're fucking off to the races.

Here we go. Remember last time I walked 18 holes? Last year at this tournament. That's right. Didn't we say we were going to work on that? Here we are three days out. We didn't work on that one time. No chance. You did the treadmill. What do you mean? Stairmaster. In between every other

shot, though, you would go down, do the Stairmaster or the treadmill. No, I didn't do any of that. Fawlty was the one doing that. Yeah, no way. We were never going to do that. I did Stairmaster, then I golfed. But I haven't done Stairmaster a week and a half. I just thought, I'm not doing that anymore. Yeah, but you broke your shoes, then. Bingo. I'm not going to have blisters.

And you didn't put your knee in the figure four. Yeah, you're right. I didn't twist it up on the cement. And you figured out how to putt. And you're properly jocked now. And A.J. Hawk is going to be there. So he'll motivate me. And you have PXGs.

The PXGs are going to help, bro. I think so. I assume you're not going to let the Lake Tahoe beat up your gooch this year, too. Well, that's the thing. That's inevitable. Because I'm going to have to get out on those waters to patrol them a little bit. Especially if there's a jet ski option sitting right on the beach that is right near the water that Ryan Hawk beats the shit out of that wakes me up in my room that I'm in. Every morning.

So I'm going to have to get out there and patrol those waters. You know, like 5 a.m. maybe, 4 a.m. when it's glass. Lake Tahoe is so big at altitude. Massive. I don't know what else. Those waves give real deal. Yeah. They give real deal waves. So you're right.

I'll learn from that. Sure. I'm not going to fucking go do that. Yeah, maybe bring like one of those bike seats that are mesh, that kind of soften everything up, and you can just tape that to your gooch. So when you ride on the jet ski, you're not actually getting it. Like a pad, but just like with metal. Bingo. Because adding metal in between the jet ski seat and my particular area is probably the right play.

No, I'm talking about the mesh pads that you put onto the metal bike pad. I got better news for you. They make bike shorts that just come in. It's like a girdle. There it is. Okay, so I'm wearing a girdle with pads on the... You slide the butt pad down. You should wear Chris Angel's fucking pants. Maybe some hockey pants. We'll get you some hockey

pants. Oh, there we go. Get some hockey pads while you're out there. We got three days until we get out there. Let's go ahead and get all that in order. The boys are going to be doing play-by-play and color commentary of the round on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, and YouTube Shorts. All on Instagram Stories. Obviously on Twitter, I believe it'll be a thread.

On TikTok, I know nothing about it. But it'll get figured out over there. And on YouTube, it'll be – I do know a little bit about it, I guess. I've been told. Right. We've all kind of been told, I guess. But on the YouTube, Shorts, too, is where we'll be uploading live from the course. The boys will be doing commentary.

Cannot wait to hear what comes out of your guys' mouth and how that whole thing goes. Yeah, very excited. Obviously, the Thursday round, I'm assuming, is going to be with Aaron again, with you and aj friday will be yes yeah friday excuse me and then saturday and sunday it'll be cool to see where we're sitting at as far as ranking goes because that's going to determine a lot on who you're going to be playing with and who we're kind of going to be following too yeah because we played with miles teller last year that was fresh off of Top Gun. He said this on me, so I'm not taking a shot. He's obviously always been famous,

but that was his first time out in public after being Top Gun movie famous. The guy. At his apex. He had a great crowd and he had great vibes throughout the entire time. We were lucky to play golf with him.

Now, we did have a disagreement with Miles Teller going into that. That's right. And I'm happy it got squashed. Me too. It seems like he's a fucking great dude. Great dude. And, I mean, please, you've watched Top Gun Maverick more than anybody in the entire country. Yeah, and you know what I mean? It's what my dad would have done.

He says it again. Exactly. I mean, it's a really – he's a talent. He really is. Guy's a talent. He is a talent. Not the Mafia. The Sopranos show, right, on Paramount Plus it was?

Godfather. Godfather. Yeah, what was it called? The Runner? No. The Offer. The Offer. There it is.

Great. He's awesome. Yeah, so I'm excited to see him again. But playing with him, to your point, that's a big deal who that person is. Especially if you guys are going to be doing boom. From now, where the fans are standing, you're not getting any special treatment. No, no, no. Anybody can be doing what you guys

are about to do. We hope we'll see some people out there. Obviously, come see us. We'll be having a blast. You guys will be doing that. If it's somebody who we get along with and know and has a good personality, can really start... You know what I mean? Turn it up a little, yeah. Come on! We had Rob Riggle on Sunday. He was fantastic.

He was taking golf real serious, though. He was, yeah. He was locked in for the entire round. So your guys' shits might not be, and my shit was not necessarily welcomed at all times. He wasn't being rude to us, but me just reading the room, there was a couple times where I'm like, don't need to say what I'm about to say to Rob Riggle right now.

Yeah, exactly. Don't need to quote a movie that I've heard him yell in right now. Do an hoorah for him. Travis Kelsey was right around your score last year. That'd be a good time. That'd be nice. Josh Allen was right. Vrabel was right.

He knows the lay of the land out there, too. Travis Kelsey's been there a long time, so he's really comfortable on some of those holes. Like 17 is the one where everybody's on the water, and they're in the beach and on their boats and shit like that. It's awesome. It is an awesome. But I don't know how to operate it.

I see these videos of people hucking footballs into the water and into boats and stuff like that. And I'm like, where are you getting these footballs from? And then once I got there, the only footballs that I was getting handed to me had markers on them from kids that were throwing them out to me. And I catch them and sign them. I'm like, I'm supposed to just, and it's a little kid that threw it to me. It's like, I got to throw it back to this kid, I think.

I don't know how to operate over there. Then whose beers am I allowed to drink? That's a good question. You know what I mean? So Travis Kelsey understands how to operate those operations. Right. Which would be great. He would be a great third if me and AJ were able to play again together,

which I hope we'll be able to do. Yeah, I assume you guys will be right around. I do fear you might pass him a little bit, depending on how... I don't think so. AJ's working. He's heard everything that I've done. Yep, absolutely. He's seen everything about PXG. He has been in... Remember, his sim's in his basement. True.

So he can sneak down there. He wakes up at 5 a.m. or whatever. That's right. Who says he's not waking up at 4.30 just to get some rest? Play 18 every day. And that psychopath would? He'd do it. He would do that.

Strictly so that whenever we get out there, he could hear us all call him a sandbagger and get mad. He goes, what? What? Best I've ever played. Never happened. You think I'm always doing this? No, I've been on the course two times.

It's like, all right. What if an Erlacher and AJ and Erlacher Dudley dropped some poor thing? Bro, 3D would be incredible. Yes, it would. But I fear that Erlacher's like top 10 in this thing. He's a player. He finished 23rd last year. Man, top 40 might not be attainable

if Earl left. Oh, no, definitely. If you look at who's in the 40s, do they have that? Right around the 40s. Larry Fitz, Alex Smith, Pat P. Okay. I feel good about that. Those guys golf a lot. Those guys are a lot. Mahomes and AJ

were 50th. Okay. So maybe we do move that to top 50. Maybe we move it. Top 50. Yeah, top 50. Okay, so maybe we do move that to top 50. Top 50. Maybe we move it. Top 50. Yeah, top 50. Okay, so we're going top 50. Hell yeah.

Hey, let's go. Why not? Patrick Mahomes has quote tweeted my morning round today up in the sim, and he said, swing looking nice. Please don't beat me this year, bro. Which I don't know if that was a reminder that I didn't beat him last year. It felt like. You know, it might have been in there. Who knows where he's coming from. year, bro. Which, I don't know if that was a reminder that I didn't beat him last year. Might have been in there. Who knows where he's coming from. But I do appreciate the fact

that he says the swing looks nice. I think so, too. It's a short swing. John Rahm, little female. But I'm liking what I'm doing with the club right now. And, you know, we just watched Patrick Mahomes beat the shit out of the fucking NBA. Out of Steph Curry. So I think you're pretty safe, Pat.

I think I'm probably going to be 20 or 30 guys behind you if I had to guess. But Patrick Mahomes has a par three in his backyard. He does. Boy, his house is incredible. That's what. And you let a guy who's an athlete like Patrick Mahomes have the opportunity just to hit some balls at night whenever you're hanging out with the wife or whatever. Like he's going to pick it up.

Oh, yeah. Patrick Mahomes is going to pick up golf. That is just naturally in his DNA. So he's only going to get better from probably what we just saw him. So, hey, Patrick, if I'm in the ballpark of the Patrick Mahomes score, I will be honored, sir. Absolutely honored. Does he love football as much as Russ Wilson, though,

because his field was not as big as russ's field that's a good point well i think he's only working on like first 10 you know because that's yeah right yep when he's shaking around there he's got to do it and they also i saw a stat this week and the chiefs had like only two touchdowns over 19 and a half yards passing wise yeah completion the yardage of average completion yardage for patrick mahomes is not that long no and i think the reason why we think that it's longer is because that motherfucker runs 40 yards this way yeah so he's throwing 55 yard five yard completion exactly you know it's not a bad little game plan no i mean if they actually accounted for that he would have thrown for like

12 000 yards last year yeah you know what's the deal i don't know it's a good question that's just like punters they don't count the yard the yardage Behind the line of scrimmage Because I'm putting from 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage So when they're like, that's a 45 yard ball Actually, that was a 55 yard ball Thank you When you see a 60 yarder, it's like, actually That was a 70 yard bomb that just took place

But field goal kickers get it from the spot Where the ball was kicked And I think it's because the ball was spotted there. So they count it as where the ball is going to be. Because if they miss, that's where the team gets the ball as well. But it's still bullshit. We need behind line of scrimmage punt yards counted, and we need behind line of scrimmage passing yards.

Exactly. We want to know actual distance traveled. We have lasers in the thing. Yeah, it's easy. Well, not punt yards now because we don't need asterisks. You're right, especially not now. Jeez, that would have been nice. Hey, just go back and change all the bars.

Yeah, that's simple. Just go back and change all the bars. Grandfather did. That's what happens when you get older as a punter. You start stealing yards in the back. So you line up at like 14. Some guys line up 15, 14 and a half, 14. Depending on how long your stride is, normally about 10 yards is where you want to pump in the back. So you line up at like 14. Some guys line up at 15, 14 and a half, 14. Depending on how long your stride is,

normally about 10 yards is where you want to pump the ball at. So I lined up at like 14 and a half, then I moved up to 14. And then if I see a good set, looks like guys are a little bit lazy, I'm moving up to 13. Nice. 12 and a half. I'm punting that thing from 7 and a half yards behind the line of scrimmage. It's like I just stole 2 and a half yards on that.

So is that a 47-yard punt? No, that was a seven and a half yards behind the line of scrimmage. It's like I just stole two and a half yards on that. So is that a 47-yard punt? No, that was a 49 and a half yard punt. Sounds a lot better than a 47-yarder. And all I did was just steal it off the back end. And then all of a sudden, Tom McMahon would be like, what the fuck? You're going to hit a guy in the back of the fucking head. Okay. I'm like, guys look a little lazy, look a little comfortable.

Just try to steal some off the back. Did you just tell the long snapper that? What's that? That you're moving up a little bit? No, it helps him. I didn't know if he'd fucking fly it over your head. No, I guess if you're close to that, it wouldn't happen. Yeah, it just comes faster.

Right chest. Boom. Matt Overton used to sling that thing. He's still playing. Still doing it. That's fucking unbelievable. Is he with the Cowboys still? He's the emergency long snapper right now.

Yeah, he's a free agent right now. I think just waiting for a team's probably long snapper to be hurting him. Bang, he's on a team for another year. He was on the Cowboys still? He's the emergency long snapper right now. Yeah, he's a free agent right now. I think just waiting for a team's probably long snapper to be hurting him. Bang, he's on a team for another year. He was on the Cowboys last year. A couple game winners he's out there doing. Chargers, too. He had a little stint there as well. I don't know if he did both those teams last year or if that was the last two years.

All right. So, anyways, Tahoe Week is this week. We're very thankful and pumped for it. Also, I do believe I'm going to have a microphone at the Espy's. Whoa. Hold the phone. The Espy's? The Espy's? Yeah have a microphone at the Espy's. Whoa. Hold the phone. The Espy's? The Espy's?

Yeah, Wednesday night, the Espy's. I believe I'll have a microphone at it. Holy shit. That's awesome. I do believe. For a long period of time? Hey. What do we think?

TBA? I don't know. TBA? I think it's pretty early. I think it's going to be pretty early in the program. I think it's going to be pretty early in the program. I think it's going to be good. Got a couple days notice. Feel real good where we're at right

now. Got a couple days to kind of piece some things together. I will have a microphone on Wednesday night at the ESPYs, and I'm honored for that. I'm pumped for that. I'm thankful for that. And I can't wait for that. Because then immediately after that, we go right into Tahoe. Then we got your guys' coverage all Friday, Saturday, into Sunday maybe.

We're about to have a great fucking time. Let's go. Let's go. Let's talk about some sports right now that aren't necessarily as positive. Northwestern football team. Holy hell. This weekend, student reporters basically put together an investigative report about what has been going on in the Northwestern football locker room, allegedly.

Now, hazing is something that has taken place for a long, long time in a lot of different avenues of life. Not just in sports, but in other clubs and fraternities and sororities and other things that you join. There has been things throughout time where you had to accomplish this because everybody else has done this if you want to be a part of our club. A lot of it in the past has been terrible. Terrible. Terrible, terrible. The stories I've heard about what people have had to do to join certain clubs

or maybe what a team did to somebody in some other place that I wasn't at and I just kind of heard about. There has been some horrendous stories in the name of hazing so that people can feel as if they did everything everybody else did to become a member of a group. Hazing used to be something that was just kind of understood and not talked about. Then everybody kind of rounded up and said,

what the fuck are we doing? Why is this a thing? I was very lucky to never be a part of any teams that had hazing our high school soccer team i guess i used to get i got soccer balls like kicked at me okay by some upperclassmen or whatever but they didn't really have that strong of legs so it wasn't that big of a deal uh but i think that was really the only time in my life that i've experienced something like that and at at the time, it was just kind of like, yeah, this is how it goes. But since then, there's been stories of horrendous things being done.

And as those stories started getting leaked and learned about, the sports community almost said like, hey, all right, we don't need to do this anymore. This is something that doesn't need to exist. When I got to the Indianapolis Colts, Peyton Manning who will be joining us in less than an hour, he said, we need the rookies to play good. The last thing we need to do is piss off all of the rookies.

You're used to hear about haircuts happening. I believe Tim Tebow's haircut was obviously out there in the NFL. I had to carry pads and balls and things like that. That's kind of like earn your stripes as opposed to hazing. But the level of hazing that was being talked about happening at Northwestern football, I did not know was still happening at any big-name places, really professional places

in the sports world anymore. Legitimately did not know that. Call me naive, but I also think a lot of people are just like, eh, we're not really doing this shit anymore. So the fact that what was being reported was reported and we're just now learning about it is also a little shocking yeah because if they were really putting purge masks on yeah and dry humping these freshmen who are making mistakes in practice and they had a title for it called running you would think at some point one of these freshmen wouldn't make the team

or have a successful career at Northwestern or maybe transfer somewhere else, and they would just say something, and this would have got out. Allegedly, this has been happening for a good amount of time where this was just kind of the understood thing that takes place. There was other things talking about other wild antics, I'll say say and then the person that also put this out or one of the people that put this out said that the anonymous whistleblower i guess would be how this is that's telling this entire story took a picture of a dry erase board that had a couple

of the hazing activities on it and the way it was reported the reporter said and he alleged that this was in the middle of the locker room so if and he alleged that this was in the middle of the locker room so if there was a dry erase board in the middle of a locker room where media i assume goes in for sure family goes in the team goes in how long has this been happening and how are we just now finding out about that and also follow up like hey we kind of stopped doing this so like if you northwestern kids could maybe get with the program, that'd be great news. But obviously apologize to anybody that had sports go bad for them.

That's a quick way to ruin sports for people. Whenever they feel as if the people they're going to work for and with actually are kind of disgracing them. And that's not a good sports memory. We don't appreciate that. But also, how do we not know about this a lot earlier, especially with the player alleging, that but also how do we not know about this a lot earlier especially with the player alleging which i don't see how this could be true in 2023 2022 2021 2020 2019 2018 2017 i don't know how

allegedly coach fitzgerald knew about it the whole time yeah and it was kind of like a part of it especially if they're saying that's in the middle of the locker room it's like how is that even possible that we haven't found out a lot coming through we're learning stuff i think the big takeaway is there's some shit going down in northwestern right now and there's probably going to be changes that are made to all of it from it yeah the fitzgerald stuff was super interesting and so far as even like they were saying that during practice like he would be doing like the hand signal like above a guy who you know like they had like a hand signal for like hey gotta run this guy and this player was was saying that like he was even

doing that kind of letting like the upperclassmen know like hey you guys got to get this guy so if it's something like that where it's like you got cameras of practices yes you got cameras in locker rooms you got so much behind thescenes stuff happening with cell phones, everything like that. If there was naked, what did they say was on the dry erase board in the middle of the locker room? It was like naked slingshot or something? Yeah, something like that.

Oh, yeah. No, no, no, not that. That's not the thing that was reported in the locker room. That was another thing that allegedly happened was a naked center quarterback exchange, but there was something on a dry erase board. Yeah, they said it was like a naked slingshot with exercise bands and stuff like that. Yeah, and they said that was on the – how has that never been –

Yeah, just snapped. You know what I mean? I'm not saying that this is – because obviously this is alarming. If any of this is being said, any of this is happening, obviously it's not good situation. But just the whole thought that they're saying how open it was and how the head coach knew, like that doesn't, I don't understand how that has been the case.

Because you think this would have came out a lot earlier because, I mean, 100 players a year at least on a roster. I mean, not everyone's happy. A lot of transfer, and look at the transfer portals filled. Here's from Adam Rittenberg. The former Northwestern player sent espn a screenshot of a whiteboard which he says was in the middle of the locker room images headline shreks list and includes a list of players names and several bulleted items including naked slingshot and naked bear crawls so adam rittenberg basically said he said that this is in the middle of the locker room. Why won't they just release the screenshot?

Yeah, exactly. Are they trying to protect the player? What, is it a selfie with the thing? Or the players that are on there? Like the names that are on the list? Can't you just blur those out? Yeah. Because if naked slingshot, and we could probably see if that's in the middle of the locker room or not.

You know what I mean? That's something you could probably figure out. Because if it's in the middle of the of the locker room or not yeah you know what i mean like that's that's something you probably figure out because if it's in the middle of the locker room coach fitzgerald's a part of it it's been happening for a long time i have no idea how we haven't heard about this i don't like that we haven't heard about this you know because if we haven't heard about this if this is alleged all true and this is obviously being alleged and the team came back and said like this is somebody who had knacks to grind with Coach Fitzgerald. They kind of knew that this was going to take place.

The team has come back and said, uh-uh. That Coach Fitzgerald didn't know this and that this is somebody who's trying to ruin or take down the Northwestern football team, which might be the case, by the way. That might be the case as well, but how many other things have we not heard about

if this is what's being alleged we haven't heard about, even though the team's saying this didn't happen? That's why it's so tough because there's a difference between, obviously you can't do it either way, but there's a difference between if there is hazing going on and the coach is kind of aware but looks the other way and lets the upperclassmen and stuff do whatever, and actually being the ringleader

and being the one who's like, nope, this is how we do this when you get here. That's a massive... Naked bear crawls. Yeah, exactly. Hey, you're naked slingshot today. You jumped off sides twice. But then also the president, he suspended him for two weeks and then came out immediately after, and he was like,

yeah, that was a bad decision. We're going to have to go back and kind of think long and hard about what we're actually going to do here so like it does seem like he's in serious hot water definitely i mean if any of that was happening he's in trouble because obviously it's his team his program his organization but the whole like um i don't i don't see because like we had rich rod as our coach and Coach Deuce senior year, but Rich Rod for the first three years, there was definitely stuff that we were potentially doing that he did not know about. Sure.

You know what I mean? Now, granted, could he have found out about it if he wanted to? I would assume. Yeah. But, I mean, we had parties with his entire graduate assistant coaching staff, and then the next morning he had a meeting and asked you know everybody that was basically at the party to stand up and all the graduate assistants to basically come in the front of the room and said when you guys are partying these are the guys that

you're fucking you know one year left these guys are trying to make a living and you guys are what having parties in a good time and i was looking at a lot of glossy eyes for motherfuckers they're all at my potential party i'm seeing this whole thing so there is obviously a world in which the head coach is isolated because he is doesn't want to know right or could potentially find out or just hey don't tell him yeah so i i'm excited to kind of see the investigation roll on. But, yeah, that was an alarming shit to read happening in 2023. Oh, yeah. I thought hazing has kind of slowed down and kind of changed a little bit.

Still got to earn your way in some places. I believe in that. Still got to earn your stripes. Herbie and Mitt do the trash still. Right. You know what I mean? Herbie is going to go grab stripes over. Herbie and Mitt do the trash still. Right. You know what I mean? Herbie is going to go grab something out of a car if it is needed. Herbie's going to go pick something up if it's needed.

Exactly. That's not hazing, though. No, no. Hey, you're the new guy. I'm not stripping him down butt naked and throwing footballs at him while he crawls across the basketball court. Yeah, but what I'm saying is everywhere potentially has these things for the new person. So not everything can get lumped in to like, they're hazing me, they're hazing me. No, they're just seeing if you're the right person to be there.

So that is a whole other conversation in this entire thing as well. But that shit can't be happening. And if it didn't happen and this person's just raising hell right now, I hope it comes out. And I hope that person gets ruined on the other side as well. Fitzgerald's been the head coach since 06. He's been there since 2001. Did he take this over and it's been happening for fucking 18 years? Or did he just implement this in 2015?

What the fuck? That's also like, how did this happen? So you think when he laid out his plan to be the coach? I love this place. Remember what we used to do? We used to run guys. He's in his interview with the president. What does that mean, coach?

Around the field? No, no. Around the locker room. House. Bunch of dongs humping them. Purge mask. Whole thing. That's what we used to do. How do you get Northwestern back? We gotta do that.

We institute that tomorrow. That's crazy to think. We used to do it with no pants on? We got to do that. We got to do that. We institute that tomorrow. That's crazy to think. We used to do it with no pants on, but now we dry hump. Yeah, everything's weaker these days. Let's pivot away. We hope none of that happened for the sake of everybody involved. Feels like it did happen somehow. We'll continue to keep an ear to the ground.

Speaking of an ear to the ground, we got boots on the ground in Las Vegas for Summer League. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from the Athletic, the Stadium, and FanDuel TV. An absolute dog when it comes to NBA insiders, even though the logo says I'm a wolf. Yeah, what?

Okay. Come on. Okay, Jerry. We get it. You're the logo. And then LeBron goes, that's what I'm saying. We get it. You're the logo. And then LeBron goes, that's what I'm saying. We get it. Come on, guys. Okay. Wolf mentality.

That sounds cool. Right. Get out of here. Please welcome Shams Ramal. Hey, Shams. Shams, you look awesome. You're in Vegas right now, hanging out. Looks like a sweet backdrop there.

You got one of them good rooms, it looks like. I'm in Vegas right now. Day three or four for me in Vegas. I'll be here the rest of the week. there you got one of them good rooms it looks like i'm in i'm in i'm in vegas right now uh day three or four for me in vegas i'll be here the rest of the week so i'm uh i'm excited you know i've seen both uh victor women yama games it's been fun so far okay yeah we'll definitely talk about wemby let's talk about you being in vegas three four days though so a lot of waters here huh a lot of lunch what do we have you been staying professional or have you been letting Sin City maybe dance with the

bowels a little bit? No, no, no. I've been staying very professional. The issue is sometimes when you're in loud environments, there's a lot of yelling in order to speak. Oh, they call exos. And the encore beach call.

The sphere. I'm trying to project, Pat, I'm trying to project, get my points across, have dialogue, conversation. And I find myself yelling. I leave, you know, and then I wake up the next morning. My voice is almost gone. But I'm feeling good. Shams, you there?

I'm excited. You wasn't with him shooting in the gym! Yeah, you're screaming with everybody. We know what you're doing. We know what the Summer League's about. The Pacers had their entire team there. It feels like this is like an NBA vacation, an NBA field trip. Is that what it feels like at the Summer League?

More people there this year than normal. Not a bad watch, it feels like. No, like everyone is here. I mean, when you talk about players, team executives, agents, like everyone around the industry that needs to be here is going to be here. And even like Michael Rubin's event on Saturday night, like that was definitely a who's who of people. It was packed in there. I think that's where I kind of lost my voice.

Oh, were you there? Michael Rubin's parties, really loud, really loud environment. Oh, nice. Was Lil Baby there? He performed. Lil Baby performed. All right, Meek Mill. 50 they performed 50 cents gonna be pumped with his eye on there hey that those parties seem absolutely bananas uh let's talk about some of the summer league action and we're pumped that you're at those parties let's go shams come on shams

come on shams making the rounds pat making the rounds shaking hands kissing babies or kissing baby shaking hands chugging beer. Whatever you want. All that. We got it. We understand what you're doing. Let's talk about the on-court action. Wemby, terrible at basketball.

First game. This guy doesn't know what he's doing. He stinks. What a bust already. First summer league game. He has no idea what he's doing. Then there's a situation, obviously, with Britney Spears being a big-time fan. Then his security takes her hand, slaps her in the face with it,

kind of a little excessive, especially with Britney Spears. I feel like the security person that did it probably lied to Wemby about the story that happened. And then Wemby was kind of put in a spot. Nonetheless, he comes back in his second game, 27 points, all rebounds, just absolutely goes berserk. What are we thinking about Wemby now? And what were the conversations taking place after that first game that was kind of a dud? Yeah, I mean, the first game was tough. I mean, even Victor

Weminyama said, like, I didn't know what I was doing on the court. But I think you saw the second game and you even saw flashes the first game when I was watching it. One of the first plays that he had the ball in his hands, he grabbed the rebound and he brought the ball full length of the court, had an assist. And that's how dynamic he is. He's able to ball handle. He's able to move. He's able to jab, step, crossover.

I mean, he's really like a 7'4", 7'5", Kevin Durant, the way he plays. And we've never seen anything like that for sure. And I think for me, even beyond just what he does on the court, his mentality, his approach, just being around him a good amount. I've been around him, speaking to him for really years now. He's being pulled at so many different directions. And just how locked in he is at the age of 19 years old here at Summer League. He's really been playing nonstop for a year straight.

And then he goes right to New York for the draft. He does a lot of media stuff a transition to san antonio it's been non-stop for him he's staying locked in he hasn't had a break and now i think given all the pressure given everything that he's had on his shoulders um he's taken in stride and i think he he's built from a mindset perspective to be really great in this league yeah he's free in this universe to do whatever he wants. Whenever we heard him on the Old Man and Three podcast, we knew, okay, this alien is a deep thinker as well.

This guy is going to be able to figure it out. Has he talked to Brittany? Do you know? I have not heard. I mean, knowing how locked in he is at just Summer League and just playing in these games, I'm sure he's pretty locked in. But one thing about that video, though, Victor Wimonyama was literally

just walking forward. He didn't look back. There wasn't any... And I've seen him walk through lobbies, whether it's draft week and even here. I don't know if it's instructions, but just keep walking. Let the security, everyone around him, take care of anything that occurs.

Also, he's 19 years old. This is his first real American spectacle, him out in Vegas. I assume there's going to be a lot of people. He also probably just trusted, and I don't know if this is how I see it going. You probably know more. The security that grabbed her hand

and over excessive ridiculous. It's also Britney Spears. You can see that's fucking britney spears what are we even you know what i mean doing here that's the person that i assume wimby like respected his when he said hey what happened this is what happened she grabbed the back you i grabbed her might have done that so then wimby speaks to the media and he says and then people now are saying like wimemby's a liar. He didn't lie.

But it's like, I would assume if you watch the video, that's what he was told by somebody that he was probably told that he should have probably a former police officer. That's probably walking around with Wemby. I mean, that's a fucking, that's probably a federal aid. That's a, that is somebody. So definitely a welcome to superstardom in America moment for him. I think we'd all recommend she go talk to Brittany. Hey, sorry about it.

I'll report back. I'm going to report back now. We got to get to the bottom of that. She's so lucky. She's a star. But after that, she cried, cried, cried with her broken heart thinking. She needs a title.

I think too, but I don't know if I can get there. I don't know if I can get there. Yeah, it's because you've been boozing in Vegas. Which is what you should be doing. Yelling. Yelling. Yeah, yelling while boozing. Yeah, that's the one-two punch, pal.

That's the, that's the, Oh, this is awesome! Oh, you want a cup? You want a cup? You want a cup? Come on, yeah! And then the next day, why can't I speak? What the hell?

It wasn't the drinking. I think it was the screaming. I think I'm the greatest. Connor has a question for you in a normal voice. Yeah, Sean, there's no problem with you getting boozed up in Vegas Yeah you're supposed to dude Welcome to being a human Way to go Sean

Keep going brother I don't know what you're saying or not We know what you're doing We would say stay away from that White House powder though Oh yeah And that ranch with the rabbits The bunny The bunny one

Don't be taking any pills out there don't be taking unless it's a chewy blue one then go ahead because we don't know what you're up to that's right exactly anyways go ahead connor yeah with all that baby show up keep going keep going so much raise dudes so much for it oh my god look at the pizzazz oh my man sorry about it sean anyways connor yeah sean once too, the pizzazz is commendable. I don't know why you're rejecting it. But when we're talking about one of the bigger stories in the NBA, it's obviously Dame Lillard.

Have there been multiple teams that have made offers for him yet? I know his agent said, look, if the Miami Heat aren't getting him and someone else is trading for him, then you're getting an unhappy player because Dame only wants to go to Miami. Is that for sure going to happen, or is Portland kind of looking at all the offers and they need to do what's best for the team, not so much what's best for the best player in the history of their franchise? I think right now Portland is trying to take an open-minded approach.

I think they're keeping every option open. I think they're taking inbounding calls. But I haven't sensed that this is taking like a very urgent, you know, process to it. I don't like, I think Joe Cronin, Portland's general manager, he's taking his time. He wants to see what the best offers are. I do think though, as I talk to teams around the league, there, there is a framework with Miami where Portland could end up with, you know, three, four, you know, at least several first round draft picks. I don't know if it'll get to four, but definitely Miami has two that they can trade out, right? I think there are multiple teams that would trade at least one first round pick

for Tyler Hero. So then you're looking at maybe expiring contracts, potentially three first round picks, maybe more, maybe other assets, swaps,aps second rounders whatever else needs to be included for damian lillard now the question is if you're portland is that enough to move off of damian lillard like you said one of the arguably the greatest player in the in franchise history top 75 player of all time so to me uh i'm curious to see how this week goes i think this week is going to be a big week everyone's in vegas these These teams are in Vegas. There's going to be meetings that take place here. So I've definitely got my eye on it. But listen, if you're Dame Lillard, you have at least a little bit of say on where you end up

because you have had a lot of equity with the Trailblazers. This is a team that you fought for. I think there's a lot of sense around the league. This is a guy that could have asked out three years ago, four years ago, but he stuck with it. He stayed with it. He showed his loyalty. He signed multiple extensions, and I think he feels like the time is now for him

to move on and move to Miami. I think we all very much understand as fans of his that it's time for him to maybe go command to get to a place that'll be in the playoffs and a little bit more meaningful basketball whenever every single game is on prime time pretty much, you know, when superstars are really made.

Not that Dame isn't a superstar, but imagine him in a Game 7 hitting something. Come on. You know what I mean? Like having a Dame moment. I mean, that could be obviously legendary forever. But I also heard that his agents may be calling teams and saying, he don't want to play for you. I heard maybe the Pacers, you know what I mean?

Yeah, maybe the Pacers are going to get him here in Indiana. You never know. That's what they're saying. They just made Halliburton. Okay, we're fucking building a monster. But let's not say not just the Pacers. Other teams as well maybe are interested, and then Dame's people are like, don't be stupid.

Is that happening? Because this would be the first time that damien uh would be acting in a manner in which we would have expected him a few years back when it was like come on get me yeah like every other nba superstar kind of does and it kind of became the norm and has been successful for everybody seemingly he was loyal loyal loyal now it's like everything that we all expected is happening is that true well i Well, I think in the NBA, there's one thing that's, I don't know if this stands apart with other leagues, but when a team is going to go out and trade for superstar player,

you usually want to back channel and do some research. See, does this guy want to be here? What's his mindset? Where does he want to play? Would he play for us? How would he feel if we traded for him? And yes, in those cases where teams have done their back channel research to find out

what dame is thinking whether he want to play for us whether it's the clippers whether it's the celtics um those are among the two teams i've heard that have had a level of interest in dame lillard i think the answer has been a resounding no he wants to be in miami period and if you trade for him i think there's the risk of trading for disgruntled player and my sense is that there's not going to be a team there Dane Lillard at the age you know almost entering his mid-30s obviously we know he's got several years left at playing at a high level um you don't want to trade for a guy that that you're getting you could bring in and then he's either going to be disgruntled not happy could ask out again um so I I do think he he doesn't have a no trade clause

but he kind of has something similar to that right now okay so chris paul got traded to the wizards for what four hours yeah that's right five hours yep did the wizards know that he was going to be like nah i ain't doing that and then they were immediately looking for a trade partner is that what a team who maybe trades for dame would be doing if they were to somehow i guess they would know two different situations? Well, I think to get Dame Lillard, you're giving up a lot. You're giving up several of your draft picks, potentially all your draft picks.

You're giving up other assets. You're giving up young players. So given that's the case, if you're giving up the farm for Dame Lillard, you want to make sure he's 100% committed. He's locked in. He wants to be there. I think for right now, Miami's the only team where Dan Lillard right now, if he gets traded to, he's ready.

He's ready to go. He's ready to commit. My sense is if it's another team, I do think there's that risk of how he'll feel and potentially taking on a disgruntled player. I'm going to go play in Big 3. Yeah. I'm done. I'm going to go play in the Big 3.

I don't want to play in Boston. You think I want to play in Boston 3. Yeah, I'm done. I'm going to go play in the Big 3. I don't want to play in Boston. You think I want to play in Boston? No, I don't. I don't want to be a Celtic. I do not care. I'm going to go play in Ice Cubes League, the Big 3, until you guys sort this out and get me to Miami. Yeah, I don't know.

That's what I just heard from Sean. No, I don't know if that's the exact thing that Sean was saying, but I do know that the Celtics have the most probably to give. All right. Anyway, speaking of the most to give, last the Celtics have the most probably to give. All right. Anyway, speaking of the most to give, last question, because we know you've got to get out of here. You're very busy getting your voice back and then losing it again. It is a vicious cycle, Las Vegas.

Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Shams, before the NBA draft, we were talking about the potential of Zion maybe getting traded and that it was kind of like the course had been run in New Orleans. Now the draft's passed. We haven't really heard anything about him. A a do we have a wellness check on zion is he doing okay and b is there still a chance that he's going to get traded before the start of the season i i wouldn't i wouldn't count on zion getting traded now i think i think the potential of him getting traded i think a lot of that rested on them the pelicans trying to get in

the top two top three you've been talking about it for for weeks even before the draft they wanted to get high up they want to go get scoot henderson they wanted to get high up in the draft and i think the fact that they weren't able to do it i think now you've got a full summer get right get healthy um to my knowledge i was working out doing his thing uh there was just that video i think a week or two ago of him doing a 360 dunk at a camp. So it seems like he's feeling good. Here we go. He's trying to ramp up. And even Willie Green said on the telecast the other day,

he's feeling good, and we're hopeful. Listen, this is a Zion-friendly program. If Zion Williamson's 100% healthy, the Pelicans have a shot to be a true contender in the Western Conference. Is this professional athletics? You don't have to be 100%. If I'm 7'5", then yeah, I'm going to start in the NBA this year. Yeah, if he's

100%, who's 100%? Nobody is. What are we talking about? I'm saying it's clear what the process the Pelicans have had and he's had. Blame it on them. If he's not feeling good, if he's not, you know, if the conditioning's not right, if these factors aren't right, come on, Zion!

Let's get to at least 80! Come on, the NBA needs you! So right now, I think all systems are for Zion Williamson playing in New Orleans, definitely next season to start, and hopefully maintaining a level of health. I think this entire organization, it's all resting on health.

And that obviously, the next season starts Christmas Day. That's when the next NBA season starts. And that is a time we hope is enough for Zion to get back in shape. Speaking of back in shape, happy to see you back out there. You know, after that draft night. Crushing. Happy to see you. You know, you took it on the shins, pal.

Hard. Hard. Hard, bro. Hey. Tough. Hard. Hard. And you fucking sat in the pocket, didn't you?

You sat in the pocket. You maneuvered it a little bit. You said, all right, I was wrong. So what? Sue me. Don't actually. Shut up, Brett Favre. And then you said

You know what? I'm back at Summer League Yep I'm back in the news breaking game That's admirable Shams Shout out to you dude I was I mean listen

I wasn't wrong When I put When I said what I said I was wrong Okay Shams This is the wrong way to handle it I like the word though Shams

We're gonna We're gonna We're gonna wait You know But I think what you just did Wrong way to handle it Hey think we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna wait up you know but i think what you just did wrong way to handle it hey but everything else has been great everything else has been everything else has been great i'm always gonna stay in the pocket baby oh yeah i'm gonna stay in the pocket you're the man well stay in the pocket tonight maybe stay in your room too yeah

jesus christ shams uh you're the man ladies and gentlemen shams ryan bruce is gonna bring you the Shingard. Need these next time you do one of those. I didn't like the whole I was right. No, because he wasn't. That was not the move. You were wrong. That's why he took it in the shins.

I enjoy that he did say those. In my defense, at the time that I said what I said, I was right. So how about Woj coming out and saying, all along. The whole time. Welcome to the big leagues, kid. Sean's back in there. He's partying with these people. Maybe this is, you know what I mean?

Maybe that draft night changed him. Maybe he's like, I need to change up how I get these sources and conversations. It feels like these guys are maybe bamboozling me a little bit. And then he started just housing beers and vodkas. He probably asked Ian for advice, and that's what Ian told him. Hey, go get drunk with them. He's a Rubens party. Yeah.

Just out there drinking everything they got in there and just telling everybody, hey, this is a new chance. Yep. You guys need me to be naked to put sushi on? I'll do it. I'll do it. I don't care. Joining us now is a man who holds many naked body hosting sushi parties.

All the time. Guy who's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion. Whoa. A Ryder Cup winner and the current president of Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Yeah! A.J., how you doing?

Happy you could join us here about nine minutes early. You know, in like 14 minutes, we got Peyton Manning. And then after that conversation, we're going to have Jim Irsay. What? So we're not going to be able to get a lot of your then after that conversation, we're going to have Jim Irsay. So we're not going to be able to get a lot of your thoughts and takes on things. So thank you for joining us early. It's Tahoe Week, AJ. Let's go.

Let's go, pal. Tahoe Week. I heard you talking. You feel pretty good about your game, don't you? I do, man. I'm trying to get top 50 this year, pal. I'm trying to get top 50 this year. Top 50.

You'll easily get top 50. You know that. No, we started looking at the names. Those people get players. A lot of golfing. A lot of golfing, those people. Yeah. a lot of guys that log a lot of rounds no question they're in the top 80 to tell you the truth but uh yeah we'll be good yeah i don't know if they have six full-time jobs you don't mean a lot of these people a lot of these people uh i think their job is actual golf yeah yeah so if

we're amongst them i feel really good about it how. How do you feel? You feel like the game's good? You've been down in the simulator 5 a.m.? Yeah, I still hit down there. I mean, it's everything. It doesn't matter how you play until you get out there and every shot actually matters. You know that. Yeah, because everything is everything. That's what you just said there.

Everything is everything. Well, I mean, no. You could sit there and feel as good as you want on a range, in the simulator, wherever you go. But you could feel great Thursday in the pro-am thing, and then Friday be a completely different player. That's golf, baby. That's right.

That is absolutely golf. That's why I get so worried for these people that I don't know whenever they're in actual golf tournaments, and they're about to win $1.4 million. And I've never heard of them before. And they're on 18, you know? Yeah. And they've got a seven-foot putt.

All you need is the two-putt here, and you win. That's it. Just the cynicalness of me in the sport of golf as a whole. Go, this guy's fucking three-putting us. There's no chance. That can happen at any time, I guess, in actual golf. The good thing for the scoring in Tahoe is, need to stay away from it. Double is the worst you can take.

So, yeah, like you take. Last year, a couple times, I picked up about 400 yards from the hole. No, you didn't. Not a lot of times. No, you didn't. I understand this is the joke you say. You guys obviously don't watch the game. That never happens.

It happened multiple times because you drive one out of bounds and you try to punch from the wood. It's just a lie. Chunk it again. Chunk it again. Pick up. See ya.

He's talking about me, what I did last year. He's not talking about it. No. I did that multiple times as well. In your lifetime. There, yes. I understand. No, I would never pick up in a real ring.

I actually. No, I'm talking about it. How long have you been to Tahoe? Look at all those doubles. Look at all those doubles. Yeah, you didn't pick them up, though. You just missed a few. I picked up a few of them. That's the thing. That's why your scores aren't real, if you

have doubles. Because those doubles could easily be a 10. That one day you closed out real well. Yeah, double-double, round one. Exactly. You got to see how good I am. That was actually, I think, round one, I went birdie-birdie to end it. Yes. It kept me in.

You did. Saturday as well because that par three on Saturday, big deal. Pretty good scorecard, though. Yeah, AJ's really fucking good at golf. 82 on Saturday? He's, like, really good at golf. Shoot good at golf. And what they don't show in round three is that 18 par. He also hit his drive 400 yards, I believe.

Yeah, the longest anybody's ever hit that a ball here multiple people said that in the history of this tournament this is the longest the ball has ever traveled so i'm excited to get on guard i could uh it's good to convert that to a par then if i only had about 80 yards in on a par five hey driver wedge baby yeah no big deal driver wedge baby let's talk about some sports news we already talked about it this hour but once again we're not going to be able to dive back into it i don't think for the next couple hours uh northwestern things crazy the big 10 continues to be the shining light on what the hell is going on behind the scenes now we chatted a little bit about how coach fitzgerald if he allegedly did all

the things that are being reported, where he was almost like telling people, hey, need to put the purge mask on and dry hump this fucking guy. Need to put the purge mask on and dry hump this guy. Need to do naked bear crawls with this guy. That's kind of how it was being alleged. In 2023, they're saying whiteboard was in the middle of the locker room. How do we not find out about it? And what else have we not found out about?

And this is alarming, obviously, all of it, AJ. I'd say it's very alarming, especially in 2023, like how graphic and terrible it was, the stuff they did. Allegedly. It's all alleged, and we need to know. I'm sure they obviously have investigations going on in the head coach. I just don't know in the head coach. I just don't know how a head coach could be aware that this is happening and be okay with it.

Me neither. And they're talking about a dry erase board in the middle of a locker room. It's like, well, coach definitely sees that. Every coach sees that. Every recruit sees that. Yeah, that's the thing, too. You've got recruits coming through all the time. Every GA sees that.

So they see naked slingshot on a dry erase board or naked bear crawls, and nobody's like, what is this? You know what I mean? And they said – Naked slingshot. They're slinging – they're using a slingshot, shooting things at your donger and balls when you're naked. I'm not 100% sure what the naked slingshot is.

It sounds like you do. It sounds like you do know what the naked slingshot is. What else would naked slingshot be? No, yeah, it was exercise bands. They were, like, making them naked with exercise bands and, like, slinging them down the hallways and stuff. On, like, seated with wheels? I don't know if it said seated wheels,

but that was the genesis of the naked slingshot. Anyways, that's on a dry erase board, allegedly in the middle of the locker room. It's, like, with every human having a camera on their phone i i don't know how hard to believe that's hard like i'm assuming shit did happen okay obviously yeah there is way too much and they said that there's been evidence to support some of the things that have been said so like obviously some of this stuff is happening but now it's like kind of waiting through to see what what it actually is and also aj we kind of talked about this earlier like i thought this type of stuff was done you know

like sports kind of agreed to kind of like get rid of this type of hazing which definitely happened in the past i'm not gonna say it didn't yeah but like there came a time when everybody was like we don't have to do this stuff anymore in the sports world i don't know about in other clubs and frats and stuff like that but it felt like sports people were like all right we're not doing this anymore so that kind of startled me as well aj yeah i mean absolutely i mean this wasn't it's not like this was acceptable 20 years ago 25 years ago i've never and i mean i've been in a lot of locker rooms every different level i've never seen anything remotely close to what they talk about in this article so like there's always those stories about like that i've been very fortunate like i i guess but aj has as well i don't know if

it's the majority or the minority but i was never really around it never really around it very thankful i guess after some of the stuff i heard but there was like high schools you know like high schools that were getting in trouble for stuff that were like crazy. Oh, yeah. That's the thing. There's high school different teams I know over the last 20 years, like terrible stories about guys like just, yeah, stuff kind of like this Northwestern thing where coaches get fired

and all that stuff. And I'm like, man, what? Like, I guess the people that can say anything were just too scared to speak up, I guess, or stand there and say, no, I'm not doing it. But now, like Transfer Portal. That, no, I'm not doing it. But now, like, Transfer Portal and – That's the weird thing. You mentioned it. It's like it's 2023.

If you're doing this kind of stuff and they have for a while, how many disgruntled people would – you would think would have knowledge of this and would say something? Like, it's weird that it took – We would say terrible if this happened. For sure. But, like, it's weird that it took this long for one person. Because, like you said, how many people have transferred

or how many walk-ons have come on and been subjected to this kind of stuff? And it's like, you know, it's just weird that we're. Yeah, pillow talking. Exactly. I mean, like, you know what I mean, AJ? Like, especially in Northwestern with a lot of journalists. Yes. You know, like, pillow talk.

That would be enough. If you came in as a freshman and you didn't know what was happening and you watched this happen to another freshman, that would make somebody transfer for sure. I'm getting out of here. I don't want any part of this. Okay. We will get back to this later because obviously there's a lot to talk about.

But ladies and gentlemen, it is time for a Netflix world premiere. Hey, yeah. This week, Quarterback will be debuting on Netflix. world premiere. This week, Quarterback will be debuting on Netflix, and this four and a half minute video is being seen for the first time by anybody. An Omaha production

and NFL films come together to create what we assume is going to be your next favorite football content debuting this week. Ladies and gentlemen, Quarterback. Let's close stairs now and read, okay? Let's do the book of why in Sports Illustrated. Let's do that. That was a good one.

Why does the NFL have so many rules against hitting quarterbacks? First, there's the fact that when a quarterback is throwing a pass, he's in no position to protect himself. An injury to the quarterback can when a quarterback is throwing a pass, he's in no position to protect himself. An injury to the quarterback can sink a team's entire season. Did you know the season-ending knee injury that Tom Brady suffered in the first game of the 2008 season led to a ban on hitting quarterbacks below the knee? And Dad is forever grateful. all right look i'm a little biased but for my money there is simply not a harder position in sports than being an NFL quarterback. I mean, think about it. As a quarterback, every single play, you're the focus.

You have to know everyone else's job just as well as your own. You can't hear half the time. The weather's bad. You got 300 pound linemen trying to kill you. Win or lose, you are going to be front and center. You have to give credit when it's good. You have to take the blame when it's bad. You have to face the music when times are tough. No one really to blame but myself. And there's always someone waiting to take your spot. Are you planning on making a change at quarterback? Beginning in September, each of the 32 teams

selects one man to be their starting quarterback. And in 2022, that list included these three. Marcus Mariota. Hey, you get one opportunity a week. Let's put it all together for four quarters. Kirk Cousins. I got three words for you. You like that?

And Patrick Mahomes. This is what I do! This is what I do! Now, these are three very different players. Let's go! Golly! Each in very different situations. But they all have one common goal.

To lead their team to a Super Bowl victory. I love going to war with you guys, man! And during the 2022 season, they allowed unprecedented access to capture that quest. They don't know I watch tape. I got tape, brother. I got tape. Everybody sees the game days.

They don't see the day-to-day grind. They don't see how you have to manage playing football and being a dad and being a husband. Pick some ass, okay? Love you. And then on top of that, you got to prepare dad and being a husband. Pick some ass, okay? Love you. And then on top of that, you've got to prepare yourself weekly for a game. Because they're going against the best of the best. I think to whom much is given, much is required.

And it is an incredible privilege to be a pro quarterback in this league. Cousins, touchdown! This is the Turducken. And this is about as close as they'll ever get to crawling into our skin and seeing what it's like to truly live it on a day-in-day-out basis. You're a 90s girl today. Always. The greatest comeback in history.

NFL history. It's got to be Kirk. His neck is so heavy right now. Would you understand if he decided to make a change at quarterback? Cousins has to hold that ball to the very last second. It doesn't feel like it should be over. Looks like the ankle got twisted up. I'm going to take you out of here.

No. He thinks he's about to play a damn game as he lost his mind. This is one year following three men. No. Four! He thinks he's about to play a damn game as he lost his mind. This is one year following three men. Every hit. Every hurt. He doesn't feel good. Every high.

Of the hardest position in sports. Hell yeah! That thing's going to be impeccable, I do believe. The access, the scenes, the years that those three quarterbacks had. I mean, Patrick Mahomes obviously wins the fucking Super Bowl. Kirk Cousins has one of the greatest years he's ever had. I mean, Patrick Mahomes obviously wins the fucking Super Bowl. Kirk Cousins has one of the greatest years he's ever had. And then Marcus Mariota had true adversity while going through something with the team.

I think the world who aren't NFL fans are going to get a great peek at what the NFL is. And those of us that are NFL fans are going to get a chance to learn a lot about the world that is for an NFL quarterback. Joining us now, I believe, is the brains behind this thing. Obviously, a massive brain.

Everybody talks about the head. Oh, yeah. What's inside of that thing? Big fucking brain. Huge. I only used it multiple times. Super Bowl champion and a Hall of Famer that was voted in in about four seconds or so. He's also the founder of Omaha, which worked alongside NFL Films to put this on to Netflix.

Ladies and gentlemen, from Italy, Grazie, Peyton Manning. Yeah! He's also the founder of Omaha, which worked alongside NFL Films to put this on to Netflix. Ladies and gentlemen, from Italy, grazie, Peyton Manning. Yeah, Peyton! Buongiorno, buongiorno. Thank you, Pat. How is it over there, bro? I've heard Italy is fantastic. You doing a workout right now? What do we got going on? Keep up with these quarterbacks. I mean, watching quarterback, watching how hard Mahomes trains and C and cousins trains and Marcus trains makes me still try to stay active.

So yeah, really excited about this piece. Pat, it's like you said, it's unprecedented access. We've seen training camp guys mic'd up, hard knocks, but this is the whole season. And what these guys allowed really just going into their lives for a whole year. I can't thank these guys enough for showing people what it's really like to play quarterback. Yeah, and obviously I'm excited to watch it. And everybody is. And when I heard about this from you, I thought to myself,

this is going to be like the greatest thing of all time. And as you were kind of explaining it, I'm like, there's no way you got the access that you had. And I learned that you actually were the ones that had to go pitch this. And I think everybody in football said, there's no way Peyton Manning would have let this happen. Is that something that you had to address? And do you wish this was maybe something while you were still playing? I had a couple of quarterbacks that we actually approached a couple of guys last year about possibly doing this. And a couple of them asked me, actually approached a couple of guys last year about possibly doing this.

And a couple of them asked me, Peyton, would you have done this? And it was a tough question because as a young quarterback, I would not have done it. But as an older quarterback, I wish that I had done something like this. And I remember when I got injured, Pat, Steve Sable actually reached out to me and said, we'd love to document your recovery and your rehab. And I passed on it because I wasn't sure how it was going to play out, right? And when you sign up for something like this, you sign up only for the good, right? You sign up for what Patrick Mahomes got to do this year, win the whole thing, right? Marcus Mariota signed up for this. Look, he did not know the season was going to go like it went.

Marcus Mariota signed up for this. Look, he did not know the season was going to go like it went. He gets benched the week he's having a baby. You talk about real-life stuff. The way he handled that, being a great dad, being a great husband, handling that adversity, my respect for Marcus is through the roof. But when you sign up to play quarterback, you sign up for all of it, right? Some guys just sign up for the parades and the confetti.

They don't sign up for those three interception games. They don't sign up for getting beat on that last second field goal. That's part of playing the position. That's why they pay you the big bucks to handle all of it. These three guys, three different times in their careers, three different types of players. I think the diversity and the type of quarterbacks we saw this year was pretty cool. Yeah, and I wish we, you know, I wish that the world would have got to see your fucking ass, you know, every single week. Just with how, I was very lucky to watch it. I mean, you're a psychopath whenever it came to like work and diligence and attention to detail. I think the world would have appreciated getting to see the behind the scenes for you. So I'm very happy that we're getting to do that with Patrick Mahomes right now,

who's in the middle of a dynastic run, Peyton, honestly. I did an interview about Patrick, and the writer said he was surprised to hear the language that... Oh, that was going to get good there. ...somebody's language on the football field. I remember Rick Riley one time watched NFL football with a lip reader, and they asked me after the game to confirm whether I had said or hadn't said these five different phrases.

And I was so embarrassed to admit that, yes, I said that. Yes. Ooh, I don't – yes, I probably did say that. I mean, I was – I mean, look, quarterbacks, I mean, Brady can did say that. I mean, I was fine. I mean, look, quarterbacks, I mean, Brady can tell you anything. Oh, call him back, call him back, call him back, call him back, call him back. That's a good answer.

Yeah, it was going to be awesome. Because in that preview, you see Pat go, fuck. So it's like, all right, we got him. I guess the first time I've ever heard him say fuck. Yeah, if they're like mic'd up for the entire season, like we're going to have him, AJ. I think we're going to get real access from this whole thing. I mean, it sure looks like it.

I mean, we got Kirk reading bedtime stories to his son. So, yeah, they gave him – I wonder, like, the filming schedule. How often were the cameras there, and how do you work that out? Joining us now is a man who swore all the time on the field. Yep. Lip readers figured him out. He decided – ladies and gentlemen, Peyton Manning back in. I'm sorry.

Yeah, no, I was just saying, yeah, look, I mean I remember the movie over the top with Sylvester Stallone he talked about when he puts it out on backwards he became a different person he became the truck right and look Brady Breeze I mean you name it I mean when you get out there in that field look it's different and you have to you know truly kind of change you know what i have to do in these 60 minutes and patrick mahomes is the ultimate competitor but then off the field you see him with his daughter you see him with his wife he's a great husband he's a great dad he flips the switch back and so that's real life quarterback play right there yeah i love it and him saying i'm like that i'm like that in there it's like watching the i don't want to say the persona,

but like the flip of the switch into the character that he is. Oh, no. Italy. Yeah, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? Long way away. If we're able to get him back, I think he is. Peyton, you there?

I have Wi-Fi here in Italy. Don't be sorry at all. We are sorry that we are here and you are in Italy. We wish we were doing that. AJ has one question for you, though, Peyton. Peyton, in that clip, you come on right at the beginning. You talk about what it's like to be an NFL quarterback, and you say something I've said for years, and I agree 100%. It's the hardest position in all of pro sports.

Can you explain why you think it is, maybe even compared to other sports, the toughest thing to do? sports. Can you explain why you think it is maybe even compared to other sports, the toughest thing to do? Panel, right? You know, a pitcher, a NASCAR driver, a golfer, a tennis player, basketball player. And look, I don't have to be on the panel. Like Brady is the spokesperson for the panel, but I could give him a lot of bullet points as to why the position, I think, is the hardest, right? I mean, like I said, before you actually get to the execution of the play, you got weather. You can't hear, right? You're on the clock.

You got 300 pounders trying to get you. You got guys running 4-2-40 trying to intercept you. Oh, then I have to actually tell 10 other guys what to do. And now I have to get the snap and actually execute the play. I think it's hard. Look, you have about 2.4 seconds to make a decision on every single play. Every time you throw a ball, three things can happen. Two of them are bad.

And yet you have guys doing it at the highest level, like Mahomes, like Cousins this year. Marcus showed flashes when he was healthy. So look, I have great respect for all quarterbacks, how hard it is, how much time they have to put in. Watching Kirk study in the car, he's listening to headphones, repeating the play. Marcus's wife is testing him on the playbook. I love that because these guys are taking their craft home with them because you have to, right? I hear some guys say, I don't take it home with you. You have to take it home with you, AJ, because it's got to be on

your mind 24-7 as a quarterback. Doesn't mean you can't have family time. Doesn't mean you can't read to your kids like Kirk does, but you better be thinking about it because they're paying you to think about it year round. And one of my favorite clips of the whole series is Kirk wins the game. He's had a bonfire at his home with his family. His parents are there. His in-laws are there. They're having a great moment. All he can think about is this one throw that he missed in the third quarter of a game that they won, by the way.

He can't believe that he missed that one throw because possibly it could have cost him the game, but they did win. That's quarterback in the NFL. You can't get it out of your mind. Look, there's 70 plays in a game. There's about four plays that really are going to decide the outcome of the game. Those are the plays you think about as a quarterback that's what you're going to see um in this series and quarterback this year i love the turks like that wheel ride wide open how do you make hey do you want to no no you guys can have it how do i even how am i a professional quarterback how do i even miss a kirk we won big time biggest comeback in the history of the

okay shouldn't have been though that's uh that's beating yourself up for it i one of my favorite speeches i've ever heard you give is uh i saw the clip on the internet so i don't know exactly where it was but you were asked how long you prepare for how many hours of film that you watch or something and you basically said you watch however much it takes like this isn't even a what are we talking about? And I think it was probably around when the clause came in to Kyler's contract about you need to do four hours. And there was probably people like, hey, Peyton, how many did you need? And you said, however many you needed.

I don't know, whatever it is is kind of what it was. Do you feel now looking back, you overprepared? Or do you feel like you did exactly what you needed every single week? I had to do, Pat, to try to get some type of edge, right? I couldn't outrun guys like Patrick can or, you know, make these throws down the field like Rodgers can. You know, some guys can do certain things that I couldn't do. So the film study was where I felt I could get an edge. And you see that with Kirk, right?

Kirk's the ultimate pro. He's studying everything. He's studying everything. He's studying himself. You see him talking to Jefferson one time in the game, but they have to get it exactly right. That was my deal, right? Spending time with my receivers. Let's be exactly on the same page. So on Sunday, we can execute this play. So look, I think you can cloud your mind with too much information. I watched a ton of film, but I never felt like I was overloaded in my mind. I watched enough to get ready.

And so when I was under center on Sunday night in my office, I knew exactly what that guy was going to do. And he knew exactly what I was going to do. And that's quarterback play. Boom. Great answer, Peyton. That's incredible. Last thing before you get back to your vacation,

thank you for taking time. Quarterback premieres Wednesday on Netflix. The world is going to love it. Are you already filming for season two? Feels like it's going to be easy to pitch quarterbacks. Now that Patrick Mahomes won the Super Bowl first year doing it. That feels like that made your life a lot easier and what should we expect from season two you're doing it we appreciate all quarterbacks saying yes and look

these three guys took a big risk uh by saying yes uh look none of those guys knew how the season was going to turn out so I can't tell you how appreciative I am of all three of these guys stepping up. And, yes, season two has been greenlit by Netflix. We're excited. We're hoping more quarterbacks. It's easier to say yes knowing that, look, I don't want to hear it's going to be a distraction because that's not true. Look, Patrick Mahomes proved that, right?

Kirk Cousins proved that. Marcus, the way he handled that, it proved that, right? So I love to document three different types of quarterbacks again at three different points in their careers. So we're hoping guys after seeing it realize that, hey, this could be a cool thing I can show to my kids when I'm older. I can show to my grandkids one day what it is their dad or granddad used to do, right? Patrick and Kirk and Marcus had that documented.

I think they should be proud of that. So hopefully the pitch will be a little easier. I was in the cold calling business earlier this year, calling Patrick Mahomes. Hey, Patrick, remember me? I met you at our football camp three years ago. We're doing this show. Oh, man.

I'm wondering if you could be a part of it. You're the best have fun great have a great vacation and congrats on this quarterback thing being a smashing success before it even comes out y'all you gotta see you later thank you from italy yeah i'm in a workout from italy done with a workout grinding away let's go talk about this right into it i do think this is going to be it's going to be incredible remark you know like um drive to survive and swing to win or whatever the whole thing like there's going to be a lot of people around the globe that are going to get introduced to the nfl through these three guys so that makes peyton's pitch even more easy like hey

listen we're going to stay out of your way we get it you know i believe me i'm the one in charge here i get it but this is a good me, I'm the one in charge here. I get it. But this is a good thing for you to potentially have later. And also, it's good for the NFL to have this, AJ. This is good for the NFL to have this type of stuff. Yeah, I think Peyton hits on it. He said as a young player, he wouldn't have wanted to do it.

But as you get older, yeah, you start thinking about, man, this would be pretty cool for my kids and different people to see because they have no clue really what the grind looks like. So I think that's a big reason for it. Didn't Derek Jeter even say that didn't he let him document like his whole last season because he wanted when he eventually had kids to show him yep yeah and he was same way like very anti-media didn't want to do anything uh like for his first several years but then yeah his last year he realized like wow this is actually going to be incredible i wish people could have saw what that fucking guy used to do. Yeah, it was absurd. It was absurd.

Yeah. I'm like, how are you? You're not even a. You guys want to go have some beers? It's like, you have enough energy. Can you? I'm like kind of tired. But you got it, man.

You got it. Let's get to a break. Ladies and gentlemen, we are breaking news. Holy shit. Chief Saholic has been arrested and charged. They found the wolf with a gun who was bank robbing so that he could go to Kansas City Chiefs football games. Congratulations to society.

No longer having to worry if some wolf was going to come in from your blindside with a gun and say, Hey, give me your money. I need to see that fucking Kansas City Chiefs football team play. Chiefsaholic is in jail. And the world got better today. Golly, congrats to the FBI in Kansas for making this happen. Unbelievable. Great work.

Kansas City FBI fucking dog the bounty hunter this guy that's right beth leland what the fbi leland yeah they took their paintball guns out there and they found the wolf he was howling too on his way in aj he was not happy about it and i do believe this is going to have a bad ending For Chief Sahalik Was it known that he had a firearm with him When he was robbing these banks He was armed robbing That adds a bunch of time doesn't it

Oh yeah Also jumping bombs That's another one He might go away for a while And when he's in there he might get that Larry Nassert Larry Nassert might go away for a while, huh? Yeah, and then when he's in there, he might get that Larry Nassert for you. Oh! Larry Nassert might be dead in a jail.

Hell yeah. Got shanked a few times. They said he's in critical condition. The prisoners from the jail said, we might have done wrong in the past, but not as bad as this fucking guy. We're taking him out. That's what they were quoted as saying. Chiefs of Hollis in jail.

Larry Nassert might be dead. We'll keep the sports updates coming on the other side of this five-minute break. Hell yeah. Well done. Good day. Let's go to Austin. Mm-hmm. Foxy was disgusting earlier. Yeah. That guy's a scumbag, Tony. Okay, that's not what you were saying.

Oh, shit. He was like, oh, that sucks. Go green. No. Tony, we need way more maybe voice out of this one, please. Way more. That's what you put on the screen. He didn't say no. I'm kidding.

I thought he was going to, though. The undertones. I thought maybe you should quote to it instead. How about Dana? Oh, man. How about he was resting in California thanks to Sheriff Placer, Lincoln Police, and FBI Sacramento. This joint investigation was conducted in partnership with FBI Oklahoma City,

FBI Minneapolis, FBI Omaha, and FBI Memphis. This motherfucker was being hunted. Bobadar enjoyed a robust social media presence as a Kansas City Super Bowl fan. He was charged in Tulsa County, Oklahoma. Okay, got it. All right, anyways, people from all over were like, we think you got to bankrupt our place, too. So let's make sure we get him because we got some charges.

We'd like to send it to this fucking armed wolf. Everywhere. He's been in prison like 50 years. Yeah. But he was from Roe to his game. He was. You remember when Patrick Mahomes against the L.A. Rams? Oh.

That night on Monday Night Football? Crazy. Chiefsaholic was like, I'm here. The whole thing. Little did we know, two and a half hours before that selfie was taken and before that game began, he was like, I need $1,250. Now. That seems like a pretty exact amount.

That's what they cost. Yep. Front row. Actually, throw in $1,300. I want to grab a couple beers, too. According to an affidavit filed in support of the federal criminal complaint, Bobbittar purchased and redeemed more than $1 million in chips from various casinos in Missouri, Kansas, and Illinois

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That's right. And with his dynasty, he knows. Exactly. There was a lot of football games he was going to have to get to. That's right. A lot of gas was going to need to get paid for. Yep. Do you really need a million bucks?

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and gentlemen, a man who I was very fortunate to call my boss a man that has become a friend of this particular program a man who will be holding a concert and museum display at the garden in boston on saturday july 15th for a free concert free exhibit with former Patriots Joe Andrewsie, Vince Wilford being there. Also, Vince Gill, Kevin Cronin, Kenny Aronoff, Billy Branch, Tom Berk. Anyways, the list of stars goes on and on, including Adam Vinatieri. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the Indianapolis Colts

and of the Jim Irsay Collection, Jim Irsay. Patrick, Patrick, so good to see you. Now, I've invented this time machine, and I want to tell you right now, I've made it St. Paddy's Day. I've moved up so close down the show to the Irish pubs lab. Okay. Hey, I love that. I would assume that you would be a person that would have access to a time machine. With that being said, since the last time we've spoke, I don't know if you know this, the FAA has approved a flying car, Jim. A flying car has been approved. Do you know this?

And are you the first one in that thing? Well, you know, I have tinkered with this time machine, but you have to be very careful because, you know, I was messing with it. And, you know, I went back to a very bad year when we were 1-15-91. It was like the final of the season. I said, get me out of here. So you have to be very, very careful. You know, you might end up in the canal patch. Whoa!

Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. If we push the wrong buttons. Yeah, yeah. It might have rained too. We don't know. Honestly, we don't know. No, but I'm fired up. I'm out here in Los Angeles. And, you know, I'm going to Indy. We have the Black Expo there on

Friday, so they're honoring me there. So I'm hitting that and then heading to rehearsals in Boston Town Friday night. So we couldn't be more excited. Peter Wilt from Jay Giles, very much of a local favorite there, joined us. And Vince Gill from the Eagles and REO Speedwagon and Kenny Wayne Shepard. It's going to be awesome with the collection as well. In Boston, Tom, with the Patriots Colts theme, we built up, you know, Vince Wilfolk will be there and Tariq Lynn, Edgar and James.

We have a few more Patriot players coming as well. And Drew Z helping his charity. So it's going to be a lot of fun. We're going to have that that old rivalry kind of come up and just talk about in a fun way so maybe Peyton makes an appearance with Tom Brady oh the Jim Arsene collection obviously is filled with fantastic things that that museum that kind of gets set up it's a traveling it feels like and you tell me and obviously you just talked about a time machine and everything like that.

You're not your normal NFL owner. You are very much an open thinker, an artist, everything like that. What you've done with this collection, do you view it as a traveling museum and a show that goes alongside it? Because there's free tickets. So, like, no money here. Go see some of the greatest artifacts in the history of sports, pop culture, and the world while listening to incredible musicians. You go to jimmerseychollection.com. When did this become like a thing for you?

Is this what you've always wanted to do? Well, I'll tell you, you're right. You're right, Patrick. I mean, there's nothing like it in the world that's never been done like this ever in the world where you have, you know, it'd be like, you know, having Picasso's and Monet's and those things shown and then have a renaissance show onets and those things shown, and then have a Renaissance show on Broadway and have these pieces, you know, into the crowd. Because not only is this a museum,

but how many times you go into the museum during the show, pull the black strap from Pink Floyd off the wall, put it in Kenny Wayne Shepard's hands, and now we're all doing as a band Comfortably Numb, which is, you know, one of our best songs on it. And Kenny Wayne just blazing on that black strap. Same thing with Jerry Garcia's Tiger, you know, in San Francisco, he's playing West L.A. Fade Away, famous dead song. And and so it's incredible how um the instruments you know we've had the elton john piano on stage uh where it's been played by michael ramos um so you just never get that sort of interaction and you know honestly the museum is so eclectic so eclectic that it's

almost impossible to understand how many different aspects are in there. You know, JFK's rocking chair and a copy of the Declaration of Independence and the original Thanksgiving declaration for a holiday. And a letter from Charles Manson and, you know, Secretary of Seattle and Ali and, you know, Foreman's fight in Zaire, the winning belt, and all these things just, you know, it's so eclectic. It's no way you can say it's 20th century America. It's this or that because there's so many different things in the collection, including a little part of a Van Gogh painting.

There's so many different things in it so so i mean when you come you know hunter s thompson's red shark from um uh fear and loneliness in las vegas some people remember it from the johnny depp movie but hunter s thompson you know is one of those people that some people know, this modern generation, you know, time moves quickly. But I tell you, Pat, it's so incredible. And, of course, a ton of football stuff, sports stuff there. Jackie Robinson's bat and, you know, Ali's robe that he first changed from clay to Ali. And just unbelievable, you know,

his Ali's shoes that he fought in against Frazier in the Thrill in Manila. So it's sports, it's entertainment, it's politics, George Washington letters, Abraham Lincoln letters. Just really, it started 25 years ago and it really started again with a huge piece in there. Don't forget, you know, the on-the-road scroll, 119 feet long, Jack Kerouac, the most famous book of the beats. You know, there was Cassidy, Kerouac, Ginsburg, and Burroughs. And so that's the epic piece of the beat era is on the road, Jack Kerouac. And so, you know, that's incredible.

The original manuscript from alcoholics anonymous the 12 steps which has saved hundreds of millions of lives uh that's a really big one um first time dylan ever plugged in in 65 at newport folk festival with his black strat um you know and started playing um jim it sounds like you have literally everything. And whenever you think about people that are very successful in this world, and obviously you're one of them. You own a team, a very storied franchise, in the greatest league on earth. And whenever you think about the people that are in these positions,

I would always imagine how, if I was in one of those positions, how would I do it? Well, I think the way you're doing it is pretty fucking sweet. I want to let you know that. Let me buy all the cool shit that has ever been available, and then I'm going to tour it around for free, and then we're also going to do a concert with it. That's an incredibly cool thing. How did you assume, or I assume, how did you dive into doing that?

When was the thought, I'm going to take it on the road, we're going to have a party with it? The biggest thought was the thought, I'm going to take it on the road. We're going to have a party with it. The biggest thought was kind of two things. Have fun. Have a blast. You know, raise the spirits because spirits inspire. Inspiration changes the world. And be of service.

I don't think there's anything higher on this planet to be of service to other human beings. planet to be of service to other human beings and doing the show for free bringing it around for free getting everything together is a service to the arts it's to kick the stigma um you know which is so big to my heart and my family kaylin ursa my youngest daughter runs that in a big way um and we've raised you know tens and tens of millions of dollars to continue to fight against the stigma against mental illnesses, you know, addiction, bipolar, anorexia, you can keep naming all the mental health issues that are out there, but people are ashamed to come out and talk about them. So being of service, I think is the highest level any of us can be, you know,

whenever we're a service, you know, we're making, I mean, my thing is alleviate human suffering, how, you know, doing that and also bringing joy because when you inspire people come from

these concerts and I don't need any money, I don't need their money. I, you know, I, I was blessed to work hard and, and, and anytime I came home from, you know, I, I was blessed to work hard and, and, and anytime I came home

from, you know, making a couple of billion dollars, maybe from some big transaction, that was a strong pull in that took, you know, a lot of blood, sweat and tears and scars left over. I was always like, God, I can make the world better. Now I can help so many people with this because, you know, there's too much here for my family they'll be taken care of times 100 i'm not worried about that i'm worried about the world how can i how can i help the world be a better place why because i believe in a higher power and i believe our purpose here you know is to grow spiritually and being of service is the best way you can grow spiritually yeah it's like, Jim, Jim, I watched you. I watched you at this one training camp and this was the first time I really seen you

in public and you were just handing out hundreds to people. I've never, like just handing out hundreds to people. There was no cameras. This was before social media was really a thing. You rolled in on a golf cart, had a sweet sport coat on, sweatpants, slide shoes on. We are a classic jim mercy we are now that sport coat though probably 10 15 i mean yeah tailored well you're not supposed to know it's the pants or shoes just stare at the sports but you show up here there's no cameras there's no nothing and you literally just start handing hundreds to like every human

that was in attendance they They made an announcement. It was like 10,000 people or 12,000 people. And it felt like you literally gave 100 to fucking everybody. And I was thinking to myself, like every billionaire could actually do that. You wish that every billionaire would actually do that. And you've always just done it. As you smoke a cigarette there, know that you're an inspiration, man. You've done good.

You've done. You should know that. Well, you know, i was a little kid in that crowd once you know i waited in line you know for two hours to get ernie bank's autograph in a bank in chicago and um so i know you know what it's like to be the eight-year-old you know in the in the stand so you know my thing is to interact and have so much fun with the fans a lot of people don't know i put on this willie wonka outfit um about 12 years ago and we had a treasure hunt in indianapolis and the winning team at halftime was given real superbowl rings saying these superbowl rings represent rings to the fans.

And it was so much fun they had on this treasure hunt all over Indianapolis. It was groups of six and it started, you know, maybe 50 groups. And then it was, you know, down to one. And then at halftime they got their rings. So it was so cool. There you go. You guys are good. We tried, Jimmy. We tried. ring so it was so cool there you there you go that's you guys are good um and so we tried and and so you know i mean just think how much that means to someone that that memory and that joy and that you know because you know i've been blessed and and you know um you know

i've had 10 000 nights of suffering and i'm not going to go into the home I was raised in and all those things and the difficulty you have. I mean, you know, people know they've been on their path from their families of origin and what they went through their life. And so I know suffering and I want to alleviate that because why? Because I know how it feels. I know how it feels to be a prisoner of war, you know, and so I, you know, in going out, you know, it's just on my heart. I don't know. It's on my heart to bring joy to the fans. And, you know, Pat, just to do things like Bill Veck did with the Sox

and the Cubs when he brought a midget to bat and they couldn't hit the strike plate and they made a new rule. I mean, fun stuff like the circus. Like, you know, everything kind of, to me, starts with the circus. How do you get them in the tent and have fun? Because, you know, that is bringing joy is the greatest thing. I agree, Jim. Hey, hell yeah, Jim.

Yeah. People are not going to like what you just said. Well, speaking about that, Pat, you Pat, now that we got you cornered and you're a tough man to corner because you're our Elvis Presley who retired and went to massive fame and fortune, and you still get to wear a shirt like that. God bless you, bro. You are my hero.

But remember now, the fans know. I mean, will you come and throw that pass to Reggie Wayne at halftime for this charity thing? There's a lot of pressure on you. I mean, let me just start by saying there's no pressure, okay? But, you know,

hey, Pat, are you going to throw a pass for 30 yards to Reggie Wayne for charity? And what does it make you feel? God, I forget. I know there's some injuries. It's tough doing the job you do. You know, I fell at home trying to get a long call. Here's the thing, Jim. I was going to do it last year.

The game we were going to do it, though, literally I forget what happened. Something happened to me. I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do it. My fall schedule is bananas, but I'm getting into shape. You know, I'm getting into shape right now. Am I getting into shape for this? No, but certain added thing.

Let's do it this year. Let's knock it out this year. Let's do it. Are you excited for the team this year? Pardon me? You excited for the team this year? I'm pumped. I tell you, you know, I mean, look at, as you guys know, Peyton's here.

We're three and 13 the first year, you know, and that's a guy who played a lot of college games and, you know, was really prepared as much as he could be for the league. So for Anthony Richardson, it's going to be tough. We know that, but he has to play to get better. I mean, there's no question, you know, Gardner could come out and, you know, obviously play better early on just being a veteran. But we have to get Anthony on the field, and that's, you know, Shane's call when he decides to do it.

We're going to win a Super Bowl. This year we're winning a Super Bowl. I can't wait for it. And if not, we get better, Jim. We get better. A.J.'s got a question for you, boss. AJ, where's the stogie? I'm going to light one up. I saw you light that cig up.

It made me want to light one of my stogies up for sure. I know how people give me shit just without you joining them. Yeah, why don't you be a good teammate, AJ? Don't let Patrick slip any of that magical weed in that. He's dangerous that way. I got a cig as well. I got a cigarette as well. No drug testing for the Patrick McAfee show.

That's true. No, that is not the case. But here in Indiana, only CBD and tobacco. Only CBD and tobacco, obviously, boss man. You know that. You know that. You know that. Go ahead, AJ. Go ahead, AJ.

Mr. Ursa, it got me thinking when you're talking about all these awesome, just all this musical gear, everything you have is so cool. Do you have anything from the Titanic? And did they reach out to you at all, the Ocean Gate people, on that whole situation, that sad submersible that went down there? Have you had any contact with those people in the past? Merciful that went down there. Have you had any contact with those people in the past? Well, I've always been a great historian, if you will. I'm trying to, you know, learn about the Titanic and everything about that. And, you know, I know those subs you go down are dangerous, but

you know, they're high tech and they really check everything. And I don't know what happened there. It's such a tragedy. But I would love to have something from the Titanic, but nothing. You know, there could be something actually. Wow. Maybe some silver. We're off to check with Larry Hall. You know, you get so many things, a thousand or more different collectibles.

So there could nothing significant there hasn't been if there was something on the market that would have been you know big time um i would have definitely uh gone after the necklace i'd say but yeah i get the guy throw to the bottom of the ocean so but i would love to have something from the titanic and that you know that's the kind of stuff, man, that really sells. You know, I look at what people are really interested in, and people love the Titanic. So I'd love to get something from that. And I'll have to check if we have anything from that. I think we might have something minor from that, some silverware or something.

Yeah, I mean, obviously you forget if you have something from the fucking Titanic. I mean, that is obvious. I tell you, you have something from the fucking Titanic. I mean, that is obvious. I tell you that. So you have to look at that collection. Me and like, we have all the KGB spy equipment from, you know, world war two that,

cause it was in a museum in New York, a spy museum, famous museum. And it closed down cause of COVID. So I bought their whole museum. So we have all, you know, eyes that shoot poison and pens that have, you know, shoot a bullet.

I mean, the bullet's not in there and the poison's not in there now. Of course, of course. But, you know, it's so cool because there's so much in the collection. Like when we go on the road, you know, we can bring maybe, you know, 60 to 80 items. A lot of it's the big best of the stuff. So we can't display it all. Do you have a museum set up for public consumption or no? Well, my feeling right now is we'd like to keep the tour going, maybe go to Europe as well, because over there in Europe it would be huge.

I mean, huge, huge, huge in Italy, Spain, Ireland, London, Germany. And so, you know, basically after that, I know at my death, which I'm not planning on any time soon. Hell yeah. But, you know, at some point, you know, I've told my kids, you know, there'll be trustees and there'll be a museum somewhere um uh down the road but that could be a while you know because right now um like even broadway's had an interest about doing a broadway show um the way we do it with the collectibles with the performance and even have a stage um script written about you could do so much on broadway with that and like i said it's so cool

because it's an interactive show where the fans actually have a chance probably to you know pass around and touch some of the items that are collectibles during the show and watch them played on stage so um hey jim you have a history with the broadway too i remember uh i think it was a couple years back you donated like 250 000 after a broadway show just like i didn't know yeah i love going to him i tell you a good friend of mine you made you know chris angel and and vegas uh yeah because do i know chris angel yeah yeah the guy took the guy's body off and put it on somebody else's leg yeah you're friends with chris angel yeah we're good buddies you know his son survived cancer and so we were out there and and donated i i think a half a million dollars to his cancer fun after a show

and then he gave me he was crying and so inspired he gave me the chair that jerry lewis sat in during all his you know fundraising shows that jerry le Jerry Lewis had given to him. So now we have that collectible given from Chris Angel. But in Vegas, we went into weather problems, and I had just seen his show the night before, so he was saying, come over to my place. I got it all set up, and it turned out we ended up going at noon in Vegas instead of at night. There it is.

What a man. I tell you, everyone should know what a sweetheart of a guy he is. That's a special guy and a special talent. He's doing jujitsu right now, Jim. He's doing jujitsu right now. He's rolling around, still doing his magic show. I'm happy to hear you two are good friends. Would love to be a fly on the wall when Chris Angel and Jim Ursae

are talking to each other. I bet that is absolutely electrifying. It was so fun. I said, hey, Chris, I know you hypnotize people. Could you hypnotize me? He goes, you, Jim, can't be hypnotized. He said, there's people that can be and people that can't be.

But he said, with your mind, no, I wouldn't be able to hypnotize you. Yeah, that's a good move. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Compliment, no, I wouldn't be able to hypnotize you. And I said, oh, I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Compliment, compliment, compliment for Chris Angel, obviously. A couple questions from the boys, Jim, if that's okay. Oh, I got, yes, just hanging out here

by the pool. Hell yeah, looks like a good time. Wish we were over there, over there in Los Angeles. Pardon me? How's the weather? Well, there's a few models and Drake's running around. You know, he's always after the pretty girls. So Drakeke somewhere i'm not sure we're making a dog park in indy a million dollar park called drake ursae's dog park for for um animals that are brought into shelters and taken care of plus people be able to walk into it so it's's going to Drake again, gaining more fame than all of us on here. He now will have Drake

Dog Park in Indy. So bring your dogs out there. Hell yeah, dude. We're building it now. There's Drake. There's Drake. Drake is everywhere. He's everywhere and, you know, he listens to that David Bowie song, Fame,

because he said, you know, he told me, he said, he barked at me, he said, what fame will get you is no tomorrow. So, I mean, David was right. He's living like that red rocket out there, too, whenever he's waltzing around, especially in L.A. I mean, Drake's an absolute beast. I want to let you know, as somebody who has a wife and a family that loves dogs, and Indiana's a big-time dog town, we want to let you know how thankful we are that there's a billionaire here who loves his dog. He's just like, you know what?

Fucking million-dollar dog park. Need one. But it's the same thing with Lolita. We are really moving this thing along. Jim, let's talk about this, please. This is a talking point on this particular show because anything you do, obviously we chat about and we see because of the connection that we have. And you do some hilarious things, like awesome stuff that any other billionaire could do, you choose to do because you're a good guy.

This Lolita situation, are we – now, I know you rented a piece of the ocean and put a net down so that her and two dolphins can kind of get reacquainted to the ocean. Are we not scared to put her out there? You know, these whales are going crazy out in the wild now. They're flipping boats and stuff, Jim. Well, I'll tell you, first of all, she's not going into the wild. And I'm glad you mentioned it because there's some people that, you know, I've talked about out there that don't really realize, you know, in the last six months, how hard I have worked on it. People like Charles Vinnick and Pritam, the Buddhists, has worked on it with the tribes. I mean, we have former senators at Eben Bai, great lawyers. We are

working with, you know, House Representative Susan DelBene, the state of Washington, the governor. I mean, we have been working on this thing and we will get it done. And we're trying to get it done sooner than later because people are saying, well, how you don't know about the permits? We don't know. But I mean, this is something, yes, I'm putting up tens and tens of millions of dollars, but this is my personal, I mean, I'm into this thing with my hands on it as a producer. And it was going nowhere. And I said, let's go. She's healthy.

I got the money. Let's move her. You got to get all these permits. We were just out in Washington. It's a 15-acre fenced-in area where she'll start. And it can even be reduced to one acre when she gets there. She'll have two dolphin friends. You know, we're going to get her on a big, you know, C-17 or 747.

We have her tank. She's been practicing getting in her netting so she can get put in the tank. It's four feet of natural water. There'll be, you know, whale whispers and vets with her. All the vets are moving out there. All the trainers, I'm getting housing for them. This is being planned to the detail with aggressive nature of saying, let's try to get this done. Not next year, maybe by Thanksgiving, hopefully.

And we're appreciating your using your massive show to help and saying, please, and PETA's with us. A lot of people are with us. You know, don't hold up this move with red tape if you're, you know, one of those federal people, because that's all it is. You know, lobbyists want to get paid. And this red tape, why wouldn't anyone want to move Lolita out of this condemned pool? That's what we've been at. Yes. You know, and plus right now, Eduardo has been great at Sea Aquarium.

And, you know, but I am paying for all her care, taking care of her now. And we want to get her out as soon as we can. How did you get into this, Jim? Jim, how did you get? Did you meet Lolita? Did you saw Lolita? How did you get together? Yes, I've been with her multiple times. You know, after seeing Avatar 2 and James Cameron and his wife are so much involved in that,

Joaquin Phoenix and I have been talking and, you know, we picked, you know, really Ryan White, who's a great documentarist, who just finished. Pamela Anderson. Some people may have seen his film. But we're in the midst of filming that. We're in the midst. I mean, this is really something that, you know, it was going nowhere. And I came in because it didn't have the money.

Hell yeah, Jim. Let's go. Let's do it. And I love whales since I was a little kid pat and it's really just an eight-year-old kid who has the ways and means saying you know lolita i love my friend and there's nothing like her i mean i can't tell you this 57 year old female killer southern orca whale is special now she her part her part, you know, she was 54 of them caught as babies. Only three survived. She was one of them.

The other two are now dead. You know, one of her partners, a male, slammed his head into that, you know, small pool's wall and killed himself. And so Lolita is mellow. She's a Buddhist. She hangs low. She's cool. She's happy. She is so sweet and still

so strong her mother's 89 years old and that same pod of 12 whales is out there her family and if she does learn how to eat fish and wants to go out into the waters, she can reignite with her family. That would be the ultimate goal. Hell yeah! I know, that would be so cool. But right now, there is no question, you know, you would put her in this free water Pacific Ocean Inlet Bay area of 15 acres instead of this condemned area where there's hurricanes are coming. And who would hold that up?

I like to see anyone come on and say, in front of Pat McAfee in a show, why would you, you know, if you're holding this up, come on my show. Because it should get done. What red tape? Why would anyone say don't move? I mean, that doesn't make any sense. Everybody's on Lolita's side here. Get her back with her family.

If she wants to, and we have the means to. This man said, I will turn a plane into an aquarium. Yeah. Okay, I will turn one in so she can fly. It'll be four foot of water. Okay, we'll be on 740. Well, remember, Pat, she's going in this protective inlet. She's not going

out into the free ocean. No, I agree. She's going to be in this bay for two years before she's ready so when people say oh they're just putting her out to sea that's ridiculous we would never do that you know she's going to be with two dolphin pals and she's going to be protected with her trainers and she's still being given antibiotics and a special diet and so this is done very carefully but the expert trainers the, the vets, say she's ready to go.

And these moves have been done with Kiko before, and she's ready. So we want to go sooner than later. Let Lolita live. Let Lolita live is all we're saying. Thank you, Pat. No problem, Jim. Hey, if anybody has something to say about it on why

Lolita shouldn't be able to live, if we're not taking any public money, we're taking Jim Irsay money, if anybody has something to say about it on why Lolita shouldn't be able to lift, if we're not taking any public money, we're taking Jim Irsay money, if anybody wants to put it away, come on the show. We'll love to talk to you and tell you how dumb you are. That's right. All right, when we get that happening. Exactly, because these lobbyists get in the way. Smack them in the mouth, Jim.

Smack them in the mouth. Hey, we have a couple questions for you now. Sure. You mentioned earlier about the collection going on tour in Europe. That's not the only thing you have. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Mr. Ursae, with the collection possibly going on tour, especially if you want to do it,

Germany was one of the places you threw out there. And obviously, as the NFL has gone global, the Colts now are going over to Germany next year to play against the Patriots. Are you excited for that? Is that something you've been kind of waiting for, for the Colts to get over there in Germany since they started doing it last year? And what was that process like as you were selected to go over there? No question.

We wanted to be involved in the European pick, and Frankfurt is great. And, you know, I told, you know, Anthony Richards, I said, I said, well, welcome to the NFL. You go against Belichick in Germany. How's that for a rookie? So, you know, we couldn't be more excited. We're not going to combine the collection with that game. But we are really excited to play in Germany. I believe we can have a division in Europe.

How would that work? How would that division in Europe. How would that work? How would that work, Jim? How would that work? Would every team have to have a stateside facility? They would, you would schedule it where you make it so they could have

X amount of games in the States and then back to their home base. And they would probably have two bases, one in Europe and one in America. And it would definitely work. We wish the Concorde wasn't canceled and they had built that to a larger plane. But I don't know why. You know, it's all in our phones instead of the skies right now. But technology.

But we can do it as is now, and I see it's not going to happen quickly, but certainly in the next 25 years, no question, we can have a division over in Europe, and it's very popular. Our game sold out within three hours. Yeah, there was 2.5 million people waiting in queue to get those tickets. They seemingly absolutely love it over there. Every game's been sold out. We were told by Nigel Seeley, who's a British gambler over there,

who went to one of the London games, he said it was either Americans that are either based over there or live over there seemingly, and Germans who were all coming to the games whenever they were. No question. I mean, it's a fun event. I mean, they fire up for this thing over there and it's an epic event when they have it coming and that's what they want they want american football and they

love that old american rock and roll and that old american 20th century um and so that's the reason you know but nfl football no question over there will be greatly successful and i see the day coming and that's how we're really going to get global because you know the nba has been ahead of us and probably baseball too but our sport to get truly transported there um eventually to have teams there that will be an exciting day i don't know if i'll live to see it, but I hope to. And you will, Patrick. You're a young man still. Come on, yeah. I lived hard, though. You know, burned both ends of the wick. But you know that.

Absolutely, you know that. Yeah, I had... But we're so excited to go play there. Yeah, so Jim, my thing there about what you just said about 25 years having a division over there, and you told us about the Concord before about how that was potentially a massive piece of having a team

over there because it was only supposed to be four hours or something from New York to London with those jet planes. And then obviously they expanded. Three hours. Holy shit. Damn. Yeah, it's fast planes. So allegedly they're rebuilding those things.

So maybe that'll make the world a lot smaller and business easier to do for the NFL. But you giving that answer there. And then you also talking about the Dan Snyder situation, Roger Goodell stuff, feels like you're becoming more of a vocal owner. Do you see that? And what made you get to this point? Well, no question. We have big things to do.

Roger Goodell has been so outstanding. It's going to be around until 2027. Then we're going to have to look how we structure the league because we can be so much bigger than we are. You know, we're grossing $22 billion. We should be grossing $50 billion to $100 billion because we need to get in. We're finally getting into entertainment with Skydance

and our deal with Hollywood films like Blindside and so many films we could make. But this is, you know, our brand, you know, is just one of the greatest brands in the world. And so we should be, you know, doing so many other various things, which we are beginning to do. So I could see the time where you have a commissioner of football, a CEO of business in the whole league, and they work together. And you have to dream and pursue those dreams vigorously. You know, you can't take no for an answer. It can be done, and we can do different things, and we can get over to Europe.

And, you know, I think, you know, in forward thinking, I know Jerry Jones feels the same way that, you know, we have a chance to be doing a lot, lot more and getting into Europe is a big part of that. Having different various media companies, you know, having, I wrote a dissertation on nfl hollywood where we write we produce you know we have so many films to tell you know the george hallis story from the beginning you know there's endless endless films that go on and on that we can make blindside was so popular so um i just you know no question pat you know um by the nature of things my thing to owners is this is your league get more involved you know see those people up there they work for you you

sign their paycheck roger goodell he works for you you sign his paycheck you're an owner this is your league you act like it's someone else's league in new york some people do and and my thing is ask questions. You know, ask questions about everything. Get involved. Be more involved like the old days when owners were owners. And that's what I want to see happen. And like, you know, the Josh Harris group.

I know Josh, you know, and that group is going to be outstanding in terms of being really forward thinking and trying to drive that NFL brand a lot more going down the road. Hey, thank you for laying it out like that, because obviously you've been in those rooms. We have not. We only can kind of guess what things are like. I love the fact that you're like is, we own it. Take ownership over this thing. Well, you know, Pat, there's no one left when I started full-time in 81 in those rooms. You know, by 88, 89, everyone's gone. The last living guy is Mike Brown, and Mike's in his late 80s and doesn't come to meetings anymore. But there is no one left. You know, I was in there when jerry jones came

and was introduced and bob craft i mean you know when you go back more than 40 years you know it's something where it's it's really interesting because um it's so hard to believe at 64 that there's literally no one left joe sinclair told me that he goes i was looking at picture 1988 jim do you realize no one's left in the room at all me that. He goes, I was looking at that picture, 1988. Jim, do you realize no one's left in the room at all except you? It's like, I said, I know it's incredible how that, how the turnover is. And so it's exciting because, you know, being taught that lesson of growing up in the league for more than 50 years. You know, unfortunately, the new owners can't kind of get that kind of training, but we need great new owners like Josh Harris to really help us get to where we want to get

because when you bring in a new owner, it's so important to have the right people come in. Hell yeah, and he's not going to be the only one. I think there's a lot of money coming into that league, Jim. Hey, I think there's a lot of money coming into the league all of a sudden. There's people with so much money. And I know you have so much money. But there's humans out there now. I forget the number.

$863 billion, I believe, was the money that was earned over the three richest people in the world over the first quarter of this particular year. Like, there's money being made by humans that have never been touched before. And I think owning a team in the NFL is like the, that's like the thing, you know? Is that good or bad for the NFL, you think? Well, I think it's good. You know, I think the Redskins, you know,

definitely should have gone for a minimum of $7 billion, probably $8 because the area that they're in. But Bezos, you know, was kind of not allowed in the process. But that's just the way it is. And you shrink that pool down. So we're looking at our rules about acquisition debt max. Right now it's $1.1 billion. We want to probably put that number higher.

We don't have preferred stock in different things like the NBA, NHL, Major League Baseball. We're looking at those things to open up more of a universe because it is a very small universe of people that can come in and write a check for $8 billion, $10 billion. check for $8 billion, $10 billion, you know. And in this case, we have 22 people in the group with Josh Harris, including Magic Johnson, which is great. But hey, you know, now, you know, 1% cost, you know, can cost, you know, $150 million, you know, I mean, just 1%, you know, we bought the team for $14 million, you know. So hey, business is good let's go business is good that's good news all good news aj has something for you jim yeah first day last

last thing for me when are we going to be uh sending humans to mars is it going to be anytime soon well it's going to be soon but not real soon uh riviera just got the Men's U.S. Open in 2031, so we're excited about that because I'm a member out there. But, you know, we were supposed to go in 2014. You just read that headline. You just read that headline in mid-air.

Did you just read that? I know, we're excited, you know, got to grow that rough. you know, Mars is so exciting because we have to get housing on the moon to start with. We should have a big dome, you know, like one of our domes we play in. That's a city. And it should be constructed up there so we have human existence in another place in case in case you know a meteorite's coming in case something happens awry with the environment that you know let's get situated on the moon

and then let's go to mars because you always go to mars from the moon you have to remember the moon is 208 000 miles away mars 250 million miles away So it takes nine to 10 months to get there. And it's nice to stop in the moon, at the moon. It's kind of like, you know, going to LA and stopping, you know, maybe just in over the border in Ohio or something. But, you know, you don't get too far just stopping. But it helps. But we need to be there because i want to see the world do

something together all people you know north koreans and chinese and americans and you know everyone together you know russians on this flight bonding let's do something great i'm tired of you know all this money spent on bombs that are never used it It could have fed the children. It could have educated the poor. You know, instead, Star Wars systems going way back and all these hydrogen bombs just hiding billions and billions of dollars, trillions, you know, really not needed because we're thinking about destroying each other, which is so absurd, you know.

And so we need to do something great as a planet, as a human race, so we can feel that great push of unity. Because look it, nationalism is good, but it can be dangerous. We can't say in America, just build a wall, don't let anyone come in. We don't care about anyone else. Look it, we're attached to the world whether we like it or not. And we have to remember the whole world is something that um you know that is connected to us and we can't disconnect just because of nationalism um and

mars is a great way you know aj just to get up there and do something i see it you know i think 2030 would probably be you know it was supposed to be 2024 and they shut it down. And that was really unfortunate. But it will be so exciting to go there. Everyone saw The Martian with Matt Damon. And that's such a great film. And it'd be incredible to be there. But we have to have this forward thinking.

We have to have this forward thinking and we have to be thinking about doing great things for the human race and for the world and for unity instead of always fighting each other. I mean, it's ridiculous. You know, some of the wars that go on. Agreed completely, Jim. I mean, there's some people out there that are going to be tough to convince because I think they together as a species of humans on Earth could certainly be something that would be rallying in something like a team feel where we could put aside our differences to kind of get. You believe in aliens, Jim? I think they're coming. I think aliens are coming, Jim.

Well, I, you know, I think how do you define an alien? I mean, that's always, you know, the question usually to questions is because, of course believe in aliens. I mean, um, there's so much we don't see and, you know, it's just like an atheist says, I don't believe in God. As soon as you say that, yes, you do. You believe in something. I mean, just because you call him God, maybe I don't believe in God. Oh, but I believe in love, you know, because that's what, I mean, the way we're going to make this world change is what Martin Luther King did, what Abraham Lincoln did, is where you come together and you don't fight hate with hate. You fight it with love, compassion, tolerance, understanding. And that's the reason we need great presidents that come from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, you know, that are max trained and the best of the best of us who can go and have these discussions around the world

and raise all boats in the harbor. And I see that happening, no question, you know, and I think it's something where, you know, I don't believe in end of days. I don't believe we're going backwards. No, it takes a long time to progress. And everyone wants things to happen quicker. We're doing a movie now based on Bobby Kennedy's speech a day after in Cleveland. You know, he was in Indiana.

Martin Luther was killed. And then he went to Cleveland and gave the famous speech, The Mindless Malice of Violence, which he wrote, and we're doing a movie with a roundtable and talking about, you know, the power and the value of that speech about how we treat each other. Because in it, he says, you know, we're people like George Floyd and others, like, as, you know, were people like George Floyd and others. Like, these were people that other people loved and needed, you know. And as soon as someone comes out that gets killed, they, you know, they put them,

oh, he was in prison once, oh, he did this, or she did this. You know, I hate to see that because we all did something. You know, no one's perfect, and there's still a valuable human being trying. something, you know, no one's perfect. And there's still a valuable human being trying. And don't diminish the character just because, you know, and we can't, you know, be taking people away from people that need them. I mean, George was, you know, a family member and had friends and all those things. And we have to remember that.

And I think in going forward, you know, the world's going to be a better place as we do that hopefully you know everybody will have that same spirit and we'll continue to get better and we appreciate the hell out of you taking time out of your day over there

well thanks we're fired up about the season we really are hope to see you in training camp like last year and we are really excited about the year and Anthony and Jonathan Taylor's healed up. And, you know, I think Shaq Leonard, he's working hard. We'll see. You know, he has a chance. He's working really hard.

He's getting a little better each day. So we love Shane Steichen, love the whole energy that we have going. And, you know, patience. You know, I'd love to win two Super Bowls. I don't know if that means, you know, this year Anthony's a rookie, so it's going to be tough, but we're excited. Yeah, you can only win one this year anyway. So don't worry about it. We're all excited.

Thank you so much. Good luck Saturday, July 15th at the Garden in Boston. The Jim Irsay Collection will be there. A collection of things, a museum, and a performance from world-class Grammy-nominated and Grammy-winning artists. All happening at the Garden. Free tickets available right now at jimirsaycollection.com. We can't thank you enough. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, Jim Irsay.

Thank you for having me, guys. Appreciate it. God bless, man. ladies and gentlemen, Jim Irsay. Thank you for having me, guys. Appreciate it. God bless, man. Hell yeah, Jim. See you, brother. Thank you. So the collection is 25 years.

So that's when you started buying stuff. I'm going to start buying stuff. Give it to me. I do love how there may or may not be stuff from the Titanic. Maybe. I think love how there may or may not be stuff from the Titanic. Maybe. I think we got four. Don't you think anything from the Titanic is kind of a big deal? I might have some silverware.

Anything they dragged up to the bottom of the boat. He's got his eyes on the propeller. He wants the propeller. Part of the boat. Yeah, the violin that was being played. Yeah, as they were going down. that was being played. Yeah, as they were going down.

I'm guessing he has hundreds of thousands or hundreds of millions of dollars worth of items that he hasn't seen in 15 years. Well, he said the collection, we could only take like the top 60 good stuff. I don't think we have a Titanic. So where is the rest of it? It's sitting around his house. I don't know.

I think he has a vault somewhere. Is he into paintings and all that too? He mentioned all those painters. Does he have like... He has a Van Gog house. I don't know. I think he has a vault somewhere. Is he into paintings and all that, too? He mentioned all those painters. Does he have like- He has a Van Gogh. He has a Van Gogh. I don't know if he has anything else. Doesn't he give some of the stuff to museums for them to be in that museum for like a year

at a time? Yeah, but I think it's normally like the sports stuff. Like the 194-page scroll. Yeah, the Jack Kerouac one. That one got sent to museums, I think, as soon as he got it. He's like, oh, the Spy Museum in New York kind of went under, so I said, I'll buy the whole thing. I'll take it all. Like, it's a

fireworks store. Yeah. On July 5th. Give me all your, what is it, KGB stuff? Yeah. Save the poison. Give me that. Yeah, give me the Penn bullet gun. All right, let's get the hell out of here, huh, boys? Let's get the hell out of here. What a day. Yeah. Lita. Lita's going to make it, too, bullet, gun. All right, let's get the hell out of here, huh, boys? Let's get the hell out of here. What a day. Lolita.

Lolita's going to make it, too. Oh, yeah. You don't think we're going to make it? So much money. He's going to spend, what, $100 million on that? He's running houses for the trainers to live in. Those are not going to be small houses. Nope.

They're going to have a chef. He's running the ocean. He's flying a whale in a plane to put him in a 15-acre area. He needs to talk to a whale whisperer. Miami to Washington. The farthest you can go. Longest flight available, Lolita, in a four-foot by what? She's going to be swimming around in the sky.

Yeah. It's not just going to be like a stay here. No, no. She's going to be swimming around. Don't you think, though? in the sky yeah it's not just gonna be like a stay here no no she's gonna be moving they should don't you think though he's right though talking about like who would you know please no red tape it's true they should be absolutely so thankful someone came in with this amount of money that wants to do this because if not him it's not gonna happen what what if them explaining to jim why it can't happen and him just getting infuriated by it. Just get a plane.

Leave it there to die. Look how sad she is. She's a Buddhist. Her husband. Her partner. There's a Buddhist involved in the process too I enjoyed. Whale whisperer. I believe it was Joaquin Phoenix part of the Lolita Project. The mom is 89.

Jim Cameron. Jim Cameron was really kind of spearheaded the whole thing. Avatar 2. They do abuse those whales. I hated that. It really did upset me. It was tough though. Avatar they do? Yeah. I didn't know that. Because remember,

I watched the first two hours of that flick. And I was going to watch the rest of it later. It's currently streaming. I want to watch it. Apparently, I walked out right before just 15 whales get bombed to death. Shit gets bad. Just bombed. And it's like.

Mama whales, too. And baby whales. Separating them. Why'd they kill them all? Because we're looking for unobtainium. Yeah, they have stuff inside their brains that keeps people young. Yes. So they suck it out.

Jeez, Con. This hate's a little too close to home for stuff Con's been reading. Okay, AJ. Keep your toxic turtle in Ohio. They're not sucking that stuff out. Speaking of, Jim said some things there that are going to offend people. For sure. Maybe.

Sorry. Maybe. Which parts? He's 64 years old, man. Yeah. Sounds like he's trying to make the world a better place. Absolutely. Sorry. Maybe. Which parts? He's 64 years old, man. Yeah. Sounds like he's trying to make the world a better place. Absolutely. He is.

His message is great, honestly. All right. I would take calls, but I can't open his fucking computer. I've tried to multiple times. I have. I've gotten shoot pissed at this thing here numerous times. Just can't open the screen. Just can't open the fucking screen.

That's technology. Yeah it like a number? Nova what is it sign in options Adele? Give me a goddamn keypad. No, it's not an Apple. Is it only facial recognition? You can hear it you clicking clicking away on that game playing World War here if we can hear you You're clicking away on that thing. We can hear you. Touchscreen? Maybe tomorrow. Just couldn't get it?

I wish I could. I just couldn't do it. That's how technology is. I need to move this. For the season, I need to move this up. Okay. We'll switch that. AJ, this one's for you, pal. Okay, thank you. You're going to make it. AJ, are you go. We'll switch that. AJ, this one's for you, pal. Okay, thank you.

You're going to make it. AJ, are you going to be at the Espy's? I don't know yet. Am I? I do believe AJ Locke will be at the Espy's. Ooh. Oh, no way. Oh.

We didn't want that one. That was because you were being negative about being at the Espy's. Yeah, saying you don't know. I was not negative. It was. Yeah, you were. How come you wouldn't just say, yeah, I'm going to be at the SBA? Yeah, can't wait.

He hates L.A. I believe I am. I believe I might be there. I might be hitching a ride. Oh. Hell yeah. For you, AJ. That's it.

Boom. How about that? All we needed was a little positive possum. Come on. Hey, we're going to get a hole-in-one, too. I think one of us, or both, most likely are going to get hole-in-ones this Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. And we get that boat.

That's a sweet boat, too. A lot of opportunities for hole-in-ones out there. Let's go. Why not? Yeah, especially with the yardage. You being that dialed in with the yardage. Yeah. You were close last year.

You were. A couple times. Every time on the boat hole. A couple times. Let's do it again. Yeah, why not? Who says no? Do it.

All right, let's go. Drive that boat back to Indy once you win it. Hell yeah. Yes. I think I'll have to go from Lake Tahoe to the Pacific Ocean through Lolitas. Yep. Yep. And then I'll hop up over her Frenston area.

And I'm going down around Mississippi. Yep. Taking Mississippi all the way up. And then I'll hop up over her fenced-in area. And I'm going down around Mississippi. Yep, taking Mississippi all the way up. And then I'm hopping on a river probably. Just borrow Ursae's plane. Yeah, put it in there. Put it in the four-foot. Tell them I need two foot of water, not four foot of water. Just two.

It's half the price. This fucking guy. How many full-size whales have flown? Tens of millions of dollars for lolita to fly she's got to be the only one it's hard to imagine one of you mentioned one that it lived out like in a netting system right did that thing actually is it still living in some kind of netting arriving good question no it's reunited with its family just like lolita is gonna do hell yeah big shout out to jim boom zito at work as quickly as he possibly could.

I was watching Avatar 2 and said this movie would be a lot better if Lolita was maybe doing a little something. Yep, save Lolita. She's a Buddhist. What a hilarious. Unbelievable. She's happy. She just kind of lays back. I didn't know her tank mate blasted his head off the tank. Didn't love that one. That's terrible.

Big thanks to Peyton Manning, Jim Irsay, and all of you for allowing us to do this every single day. Sean Charania stopped by today as well. Broke some news on Wemby being all the way back. Here we go. Didn't tell us anything about whether or not he chatted with Britney Spears. We'll follow up with that. Chief Saholic has been arrested.

You can sleep easily. Mm-hmm. Hell of a day today. Shout out to the Talks table. One half of the Hammer. Done. Cowboys. Everybody in the back. Everybody else in the building. AJ. One half of the hammer. Dad. Cowboys.

Everybody in the back. Everybody else in the building. AJ Hawk, you're the man. See you all tomorrow, and then we're off. For the foreseeable future. Yes. That's a long time. Yeah, but when we get back, it's going to be, you know, 30-something days.

We're right in it. Yes. And there's going to be new stuff in here, I think. That's right. Uh-huh. Sweet. And D-Hop and, you know, Dal're right in it. Yes. And there's going to be new stuff in here, I think. That's right. Uh-huh. Sweet. And DeHop and, you know, Dalvin might be somewhere. Ooh.

And Anthony Richardson might have cracked through the whole, you know, Peyton was 3-13. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Are we going to get eyes on him? I did not like that he said Peyton played a lot of college football. Yep. And he was 3-13. Yeah, he didn't say that.

Yeah, that was a good little lead-in. Oh, okay. Also, Shaq Leonard has a chance, he didn't say that. Yeah, that was a good little lead-in. Oh, okay. I think Shaq Leonard has a chance. Self-handicap. Yep, that was interesting. Their team was terrible then. Yeah, true. Now the team's pretty good.

He could be sandbagging, too. Just lower expectations. Sounds real good for a middle linebacker. Shin Zu, what does Shin Zu say, though? Be weak, win strong. So Shaq Leonard is not playing? Yeah, I don't know. That sounded a little concerning. That was odd. Yeah. I don't know. That sounded a little concerned.

That was odd. Yeah. Jonathan Taylor's healthy though. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it all out for tomorrow. You are the best. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life. Goodbye.