The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 942 - HR Derby Recap, Jeff Passan, Ice Cube, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: July 11, 2023

On today’s show, Pat hosts the progrum LIVE from LA ahead of the ESPY’s tomorrow night on ESPN, while Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys are back in Indy/Ohio to chat about Pat Fitzgerald officially getting fired by Northwestern with $42 million left on his contract, they recap last night’s home run derby, why it was a success, and why it might make sense to have some better guys throwing to the hitters to avoid the backlash on the internet. Joining the program to chat about the HR Derby as a whole, if it was a success for MLB, and his thoughts on the Northwestern situation from a journalism perspective (30:03-44:45). Later, rapper, actor, icon, and creator of the Big 3, Ice Cube joins the show to chat about the Big 3 and some of the obstacles that he’s had to deal with along the way, what other creative pursuits he’s up to right now, all the BS he’s had to deal with along the way, and much more (1:05:05-1:29:43). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll be off the next few weeks, but follow along on all of the Pat McAfee Show social channels to watch all the content from The Road To Tahoe presented by PXG. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Tuesday, July 11th, 2023, this sports program starts right now. Sports! Are happening, kind of. You know, the all-star game is this evening for the sport of baseball. One sport that we don't really watch that much, but last night had their most electrifying evening that they have every single year with the Home Run Derby. A son and father duo now have won the Home Run Derby, and we will be celebrating it all damn day.

I am currently in Los Angeles. The weather is nice. The weather is nice. The hotel is Art Deco-y. My wife tells me it looks like it's out of the 1930s, but we're having a blast. Super Hollywood life. Super Hollywood. Getting ready for tomorrow night's ESPYs where I will be having a microphone.

I will say the meetings that I've been in for the ESPYs have been good. We'll say they've gone good. That's good. That's good. That's a good sign. Yeah, I'm not sure I'm telling the truth or not, but it's going to all work out. Tomorrow night is going to be electrifying. I'm honored to be a part of it.

The boys are back in the Thunderdome. I'll be seeing them tomorrow. The toxic table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Conner and at Boston Conner's beautiful mullet. How are you boys doing? Ty, home run derby. What a night. Congrats to Vlad and congrats to J-Rob.

Hitting, what, 41 in one round. I watched him at like 1 a.m., 2 a.m. rerun at SportsCenter. Yeah, absolutely incredible. Everyone likes to bitch and complain about the derby because it's changed so much from a couple years ago when they used to do the outs. They pitch so quick, so you can't really appreciate how far

the guys are hitting the home runs. But the home run derby is always about the moments. The person who wins is rarely who you actually remember from that particular derby. And we were talking on the group text last night. Adley Rutschman is a young catcher for the Orioles. He starts his round, bats all left-handed. He's got his dad pitching to him. And then in his bonus time, he flips around and hits right-handed and hits, I think,

eight executive homers. And then, yeah, you mentioned it, you know, Julio Rodriguez, hometown guy, hits 41 dingers in one round. It's like neither one of those guys won, but it's shit like that that you kind of remember. And it was like, okay, wow, this is kind of guys won but it's shit like that that you kind of remember and it was like okay wow this is kind of everything you want from a home run derby and i i really do think they they capitalized and crushed it last night i think so too and you talk about that rushman rushman rushman yeah adley rushman you talk about that story with his dad thrown to him and yeah i know as soon as i watch the highlights i'm like this motherfucker should have hit right-handed the whole time let me just seems like righty he only knows how to hit home runs a lot of pressure on the pitcher this is i think my big my big my big takeaway

every single year is the amount of pressure that is on these fucking pitchers and i respect and appreciate whenever nice like bryce harper and his dad i remember that amazing moment russman last night and his dad. That's an amazing moment. And, oh, this is my coach from college or high school that's coming to throw to me or whatever, and it's like, bro, I don't know if that's who I want floating him in there for me. If I'm actually trying to win this thing. I know Mookie did not like whoever was throwing the ball to him.

I can tell you that because his pitcher was stink. He was a bum. That's Pac-Man Jones, obviously a 14-year NFL vet, a man who's a pro-ball, all-pro, and a guy that is electrifying on a microphone. And then the man in the cowboy hat over there is one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys, Tone Diggs.

Tone, if you were going to be, and you grew up playing baseball, and for those that don't remember, and Nick, you're going to have to help me out here with some of the facts and stats. Tone Diggs was the catcher of a high school baseball team that was number one in the country. Wow. They were number one. Number one in the state and country.

What were you guys in the country, though? Like 21st, something like that. Jeez. Oh, top 21 in the country. Top 20, that's pretty good. Yeah, a lot of people Top 21 in the country. Top 20, that's pretty good. Yeah, there's a big lot of people play baseball in this country. Top 21 in the country

is obviously insane. Tone was a massive part of that, not only on the field, on the diamond, in the batter's box, but also as a human. The vibes in the background. First run of the playoffs, that particular team that was the cock of the walk of our high school for a few months, they got 25 runs or something no no yeah yeah i get the exacts but but tone i know if your baseball

life would have gone on to become a professional and you would have done a home run derby are you are you picking coach to throw you balls because i honestly believe the pitcher is an actual tag team partner in this fucking home run derby and it never really gets talked about until it gets talked about like it gets talked about when Mookie's pissed off it gets talked about when it's like hey we need these pitches a little bit more high and inside it's like these motherfuckers haven't thrown 20 consecutive baseballs in maybe 30 years like what are we even we're expecting them just to be good I almost feel like you should take it out of the player's hands

that they can't pick their dad. Like, hey, we have a new rule. You can't have your high school baseball coach that hasn't picked up a mitt in four years. You actually have to have the guy that throws you every single day because they're, did you know what he just said about Mookie Betts' pitcher? Like, that guy doesn't deserve that.

No. Brutal. He's not the only one, though, by the way. No. These people are being judged these people are being judged as fucking professional athletes and i'm like what a cool moment but also a nightmare potentially there if you just oh what you gotta accidentally just get tight in your shoulder a little bit and that ball we've seen really good athletes throw opening pitches at games sure

it's tough really good athletes it is not fucking easy just to groove in baseballs 41 in one round that means he had to throw like 45 perfect pitches yep 47 perfect pitches like that's a tough task who would you have picked tone if you had to do it and what do you think they should think about and should the mlb tell them no more feel good shit we need actual bp coaches yeah yeah pac talked about mookie fucking alonzo's guy and it's weird there because he's been in it so many times he's won twice or whatever he was throwing fucking sinkers low and outside so alonzo was having a hard time and he wasn't hitting 41 so that doesn't matter anyways and i love and i respect coach my father

whoa his father's father i I respect him, too. But Coach was always a third base coach because, you know, he didn't have the best pitching motion, the best pitching arm, so he was never going to be my guy there. I would just take the guy that would throw me BP every single day because why the fuck wouldn't you, to be honest with you? But I like the story, though. Joining us now is a man who's currently the president of the state of Ohio

a little bit early on this particular Tuesday. Ooh. What a treat. What a joy. Unreal. What a gem. Ladies and gentlemen, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion,

a Ryder Cup winner but not a champion. He couldn't will the entire United States with the Ryder Cup, but he willed his group to get a dub. Ladies and gentlemen, father of 10, COVID survivor, and I believe ESPYs award presenter. Wow!

AJ Hawk. Yay! AJ, are you giving out an award at the ESPYs, dude? That is definitely not confirmed. We will see. Everything is always very fluid in this is definitely not confirmed we will see everything is always very fluid in this whole universe so we'll see we'll see what happens what universe like the free universe that wendy's in or like the universe that we live i just mean that we you know things

sometimes can change minute to minute hour to hour in this world in our world or like the actual world both in our world it seems to happen on a lot more occasion. And I'm realizing that that is not how it is everywhere. You know, when I'm sitting down talking to people who have had things planned out for 90. What? How long? Dude, the planning for the show takes a long time, I guess. That's absurd.

I guess it takes, they got a lot of things, long time, I guess. That's absurd. I guess it takes – they got a lot of things, you know, kind of locked in, dialed in. But, AJ, I don't think that's allegedly. I think it's – ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk is presenting an award at the ESPYs. Let's go, Hawker. Maybe AJ. No, I will be tag teaming with you to present something, correct?

Maybe. Things change, you know, minutes later. I may meet you in Tahoe. No, no, no, no, no. Come on. You got the bird. I'm all in. Everything's going to be fun. I can't wait. Okay, fantastic. Let's talk about the Home Run Derby. I know you kind of of heard me talk about that but i think i started paying attention to this a little bit more as we have a sports show in the middle of fucking no sports time i start paying attention more to the home run derby and obviously we live on the internet so like you pay attention to the reaction to home run derby some of these pitchers just get fucking cooked aj and it's like you're watching them and

me as a competitor if i'm in that batter's box because punting and kicking kind of like a home run derby you know what i mean like i'm trying to hit a fucking rocket every single time so my snapper matters like my snapper matters for rhythm it matters for like off and running and if my snapper's not good that fucker's cut you know what i mean like he is hey see you later in the home run derby which is the most eyes that a lot of these guys are going to get they're signing up like evan fox to throw for them because he's a friend i'm like this fucker can't put the ball you know what i mean aj it's a it's a weird thing that is cool

because it's sentimental but also it's like they're about to get cooked you know what i mean well yeah you never i guess you never know until you get out there when the the bright lights are on you yeah i mean it is not an easy thing to do to groove pitches over and over and over again in that stage but that dude adley rutschman however you say his last name the orioles catcher um that dude was bombing the ball and his dad was pitching to him but his dad was like his coach growing up all of this stuff his dad was grooving it and unfortunately we only got to see him in the first round because old buddy came out and knocked 28 right after he got 27.

I love it. I love his dad doing it. I hope his dad gets on some TRT and everything and is doing his next show. I mean, that's basically what Harper's dad was doing pretty much. Well, and like you said, Pat, he was grooving them, but his pace was all fucked up. He was kind of like admiring. Rhythm, rhythm.

Yeah, he was admiring his son's homers. And you could see the catcher kept saying like, hey, let's go. You got to fucking keep throwing him balls because he's in a groove right now. And if he would have, you know, he probably saw 12 less pitches than the guy he was going against did. So, like, he performed as well as he could have, but he had no chance to actually move on to the next round. Yeah, and I bet on Rushman.

I love the guy. I really do. I wanted him to do well. There's this cool clip. Well, this sounds like you don't really. Hold on, hold on. There's this cool clip of him in his first game. He takes his catcher mask off.

He looks around the stadium. You can really tell it's sinking in. His dad just needed to shut the fuck up and stop talking while he was pitching him the ball. I don't know if anyone else heard this, but he kept saying, good hair, good, stay locked in, stay locked in. But he kind of screwed his kid over. I assume Adley, once he got it.

See, this is what I'm talking about. This cannot be the conversation. The MLB needs to do something for this not to be the conversation. Just have an all-time pitcher out there. One pitcher for all of them would make sense. That's a lot of balls, though. That's a lot of balls.

One American League, one National League, maybe. One guy for one side of the bracket. Pat, didn't some of the guys that were having an off-night pitching, some of them were their normal BP pitchers, weren't they? I think some of them actually were. Yeah, anybody can have a bad night. That's why adding in, oh, the guy's 55 years old

and hasn't thrown balls in fucking six years. I assume, I'm not 100% sure, humans are humans, always have been. There's a chance that the homo sapien body of the arm gives out. You know what I mean? How much money is on the line in this entire thing? I think it's a million. I think they get a truck, too. I've seen robots

hit holes in one on golf courses, and they do it over and over and over. Why do we not have a robot? Why do we not have a robot? Town wants AI to take it to the job. You're right. No, a jug machine. I don't want the robot to have a brain. No, you're right. No, a jug machine. What about a pitching machine? I don't want the robot to have a brain.

I just want the robot to do one thing, and that's one thing only, and that's groove high and inside fastballs. But if you've got the pitching machine, the batter don't get the rotation of the ball coming out of the pitcher's hand. That's a whole lot different than a guy throwing the ball. That's part of it. I think it's part of it. You're pitching.

This is all part of it, I think. I think it's part of it. You're pitching. This is all part of it, I think. Yeah, I think it's a variable that they need to have. I think they should continue the way they're doing it. Hey, you got to step up to the plate if you're the pitcher. You got to figure it out. I agree. I agree. It's a tag team, but I just hope the players actually test their dad

or their high school before we get out there in front of the fucking... Pat, you know they did that. Rutschman, they said he and his dad were in Yankee Stadium a couple weeks before working on home run derby stuff and how they were going to do it, I guess. I love it. I love that they're doing that. He had a great performance, obviously.

Yeah. One round. Pat, you're telling me you wouldn't want Tim McAfee out there on the mound humming balls right over the plate, meatballs for you to just take deep center field? I love Tim McAfee. Okay? Of course.

Mm-hmm. But Tim McAfee ain't won that job either. You know what I mean? Tim would be there. He'd be very supportive. And if I asked him to do that, he'd be like, all right, fuck, I'll figure out how to do this. He'd probably create something that would make his arm be able to be,

this makes my arm the most repeatable like he would do. That is what Tim would do. But I would not want to put my dad in that situation where he's potentially going to get it on the shins real hard. You know what I mean? Let alone me being super competitive. I'm taking, instead of a night off, which a lot of these guys do,

I'm getting winded. Those motherfuckers are tired. We're talking. Hey, Dad, I'm trying to win a million bucks and I'm working my ass off here. Tim doesn't want to deal with that either. He doesn't want to deal with me going like, Thanksgiving next year, you know what I mean? Christmas, New Year's, birthday.

Somebody, not me, but somebody's going to be like, so what happened there late, Tim? Yeah, Tim kind of fucked it up. Well, my machine, I had it. And then I'm going to have to answer. It's like I love the sentimentalness of it all, and I appreciate it. But also, like, let's make sure we're not putting somebody out to the pasture here, too. You know what I mean?

Because it doesn't show up until it shows up. That's kind of the old saying. You know what I mean? It doesn't show up until it shows up. Speaking of showing up, something came out of Northwestern over the last few days that I don't think any of us could have expected, especially in the year 2023. Now, ex-players and a couple ex-players and a couple ex-personnel, I don't know how else to describe this, basically told reporters and others about everything that was going on, allegedly inside of the Northwestern locker room.

Now, I'm only saying allegedly because every player that is playing for Northwestern currently and they might feel obligated or forced to say this to back Pat Fitzgerald who's their guy and everything like that. They said this was not in the locker room. Pat did not know about this

but it certainly, it sounds like it did happen, this stuff. It did happen. This is my kind of takeaway we're still early in this whole thing and we're going to learn more and more and more but even with the current players saying that and seemingly a couple ex-players saying to the contrary pat's been fired 17 years as the head coach of northwestern wildcats just a couple weeks in his terms because he's getting lawyers to fight this just a few weeks after he and the president and the AD kind of learned of all this

and made a decision that a two-week suspension would be worthy and he said Pat said in his statement that everybody agreed that I did not know that this was happening but the president and the AD also understand that he who is at the top or she who is at the top is in charge of everything that's happening in there. The culture of your team is on you, pal. It's not on anybody else. So your ignorance claims aren't a valid one. Wild scene in Northwestern. I do not know this type of hazing was still happening in the sports world, let alone in the football world, let alone in Big Ten football world in 2023. But I assume the situation is only getting started, AJ, and it's kind of taking the football

world by storm here. Yeah, I mean, for Pat Fitzgerald, that dude is Northwestern. He's a legend as a player, and then he's coached there ever since he got done playing, been the head coach forever. He still owed $42 million as well. That is why I believe he retained some high-profile lawyers to try to make sure, hey, you can fire me with cause, but you're going to be paying me something as well. So I don't know how that's all going to go. But as a program, what does Northwestern do? That's going to be tough.

I know faculty is already saying shut down the renovations on the stadium and all this stuff. I don't know. If he did, I don't know. Because you't, if he did, I don't know, like, what, because you are the head coach, yes, it falls on you. But, yeah, it'll be interesting to see, like, when he does speak, when he's allowed, when he can legally. I'm sure his lawyers are saying absolutely not.

Do not do anything right now. But, like, how much did he know? Did he have an idea? Like, I don't know. Like, I don't get it. What allegedly happened is terrible. I mean, it shouldn't be know. I don't get it. What allegedly happened is terrible. I mean, it shouldn't be happening. I've never seen it happen before.

I agree. I've never heard of it. I actually, hold on. I have heard of it before, obviously. I think I've heard of every type of hazing before. You've heard of it. You're like, hey, they could do this. They do do this.

I've never been around a place that did it, though. I am very lucky. I've talked about this numerous times. I have heard about hazing and things. I've never been around a place that did it, though. Like, I am very lucky. I've talked about this numerous times. I have heard about hazing and things. I've never been around it. You know, when I was a freshman, before I was even a freshman in high school, like my freshman in college, I was invited to a party with guys that just went to the NFL, Pac-Man and Slim and them.

It wasn't like, hey, you're a freshman. We want to beat the shit out of you. It was the complete opposite. It was actually,, uh, Hey, you're a freshman. We want to beat the shit out of you. It was the complete opposite. It was actually, it was, uh, Hey, let's go have a good time.

I think I kept up to that particular summer evening. So I think I, I think I, uh, I think I earned, you know, my stripes potentially pretty quickly through that and the workouts. But Pac-Man,

there's a lot of shit that Rich Rodriguez had no idea was going on. You know what I mean? Like there is, there is very plausible that Fitzgerald had no idea that this was taking place now maybe he did and the people that are alleging all this stuff were saying that he was kind of a ringleader like he was yeah he knew about it he wanted it it was in the middle of the locker room like that sounds that sounds crazy to me in 2023 with how many cameras around everything especially in big 10 football but this is what first somebody is

alleging and obviously it's happened. There is a world where he doesn't know that this shit's happening, though, Pac. Don't you agree? I don't know for how long. He's been there a while. I know. 17 years is a long time, Pac. He don't know nothing. He knows something. He gotta

know something, Pac. And from all the shit that's coming out, it seemed like it's adding up to me well that's what they said they said there has been examples and evidence of saying that this stuff definitely had and i think boys you might have read into it a little bit more than me i think there's players that are like yeah this this definitely happened but it wasn't at like pat fitzgerald's call or whatever, like what was being alleged. And they might be just saying that trying to save their coach.

You know what I mean? They were just trying to save their coach too. Which also makes sense, which is why, like, the players now, them backing him up, like, I could see why they would do that. He recruited them and everything. But there was that thing in the article. Like, he was pointing out kids, right? Or he was, like, doing the hand signals up near players,

whether they were stretching or doing something talking about like a freshman like yeah they probably need to be runned was the term because running was one of the activities uh so yeah that's from the allegation right not from the investigation no no that's just part of what has been kind of alleged from the uh whistleblower which is what they're calling the kid that kind of started the conversation around. My question is, though, like – Hey, go ahead, Tom.

Yeah. Like, what – so there was a two-week suspension. Was this all new stuff that came out that they decided to fire him now, or was it just like, oh, people are up in arms now. We have to fire you instead of two weeks. Yeah, no, the article came out today, and it said it was the university president's decision that the facts all remain the same. new has come out since then but uh i mean obviously

you get this kind of blowback in like the media and everything he probably thought his hands were tied i'm so fascinated by it bro because i mean you see the way other people start talking about it it's like we can't have this happening no. This stuff can't be. And that might be why Northwestern is ass, by the way. If you're just trying to run everybody out of your fucking program and treat people like that, those things are going to add up. You know what I mean? That one person that you potentially dry hump on a Wednesday just for no. Like two years from now, you might need him. You know what I mean? You might need him.

Like you might need that person. So, like, that was Peyton's take on hazing when I got to the Colts, and I found it to be like a really – I'm not saying he created it, but he's like, hey, if we want to win the Super Bowl, which is what we're trying to do here, and we end up losing to the Saints in the Super Bowl, so he kind of called a shot, too, that we're going to make it to the Super Bowl. But he said, if we're going to try to win the super bowl like we we're gonna need

rookies we don't need we don't need these all them all hating us like that is that seems to be counteractive yeah to what we're trying to do in this whole team build thing so hopefully like northwestern learns and their fans learn why your team has been ass for so long. Everybody says, well, it's the educational reason. It's not easy to get in there. It's tough to do. A lot of really smart schools have good fucking football teams somehow.

You know what I mean? I think the culture, so if you want to fire Pat Fitzgerald for sucking, I understand. He's been here a long time. His recruiting classes, everything like that. They stink. If you get a Northwestern game on TV,

you're bummed about it. It is not, it is not a fun thing, but also from within it, you got naked bear crawls and naked slingshots happening. I don't know what else is taking place. What else is being said, but that doesn't. A team building experience,

AJ in teams, when those who do that type of bullshit lose normally. But that doesn't mean they don't have a team-building experience, AJ. And teams win. Those who do that type of bullshit lose normally. The boys would know better than me. Has there been anyone else other than this anonymous whistleblower coming out saying, hey, this happened to me as well? And are there, like, where are, where's everybody else from the years, from guys that have played there in the past, maybe former players? Has anybody else come out either way?

There was the anonymous guy with all, like all the naked bear crawls and stuff. Hold on, Ty. Sorry to cut you off. Is he the guy that allegedly said, hey, somebody said, the whistleblower said, I'm out to get Fitzgerald or something. Who was that? That was in a report.

I don't know if that was just someone responding to, like someone already on the team responding to the claims. The only other thing I've seen is an offensive lineman actually put his name on it and he said that there's a culture of racism and basically that if you're not a white

guy, I think this guy was Mexican and he basically said not only Mexican guys, black guys, they made them cut their dreads and stuff like that to kind of keep in line with the Wildcat way or whatever. And he just... Yeah, so basically he made it seem like...

We have no place for this shit. Yeah, if you weren't a white guy, they made you feel incredibly uncomfortable. That's another part of it. I didn't know about that either. Coach or the team, man, you can say, oh, do we have something to do with it or do we don't? Just look at the fucking roster.

Yeah, that guy Diaz, too, said he had PTSD. Pat, here's another thing. Well, that's crazy. So sorry to hear that. I hope he gets it figured out. Honestly, Ayahuasca might be the key. True. Our show obviously says a lot of that, but PTSD helps with that.

Hopefully that'll help old Diaz. And once again, we don't believe that this is how anybody's football experience should be. We fucking love football. So this type of shit is not good for our sport as a whole when it comes out because people think, oh, did you hear about the football idiots, what they were doing? Especially at Northwestern with Hal. Yeah. You know.

Oh, yeah. Right. You know, Hal Hoyt. Pat, wasn't it also the people who found all this and researched and did the investigation, wasn't it their student newspaper, the Northwestern newspaper or whatever? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But ESPN, I think, was running an investigation alongside of it, I think. I think it was coming. I think. How did it take this long for this to get out? This had been going on for years how do we just learn about it now with everybody who has phones with cameras and all with transfer portal and just like everything there's so many jaded people these days who have access to be able to say not in baby face too like baby face fashion be like hey what's going on over here

is just not good for society football college football big ten football sports as a whole like that seems like something that would have got out pack i just feel like i don't know how it hasn't got out what else do we not know about um and like maybe ultimately a little refresh will start the northwest or restart the northwestern football team on a good step. But all the shit that we're hearing, not conducive to winning football. How can you win like that? Like, come on, bro.

Like, we don't have a place. Hey, by the way, Pack. By the way, Pack. Pack, by the way. You need your Shave-Os dreads, Paul. You need your Shave-Os. Yep. Nah.

Can you imagine? McAfee what? Can you imagine that? Hey, cut your hair. Do a bra. So I had long hair, obviously. Cut your mullet. Cut your mullet.

Yeah, exactly. Or you can't walk in the building. No way. Well, and that was part of it is the guy said, like, plenty of white dudes had super long hair. You know, they could do whatever the hell they wanted to. But all the black guys who had dreads like those were getting cut. That is bullshit.

How? How is it? But like, how? How is that? Like, yeah. How's nobody know? You know, like, how do we not know about that sooner? Because that feels like something I don't say archaic, but I guess it's very much still out there.

I'm not saying it's not. There's always going to be racist assholes out there we don't love it we are hoping to get to a world in which it doesn't exist and everybody gets along okay i would like to say that but like follow-up how have we not heard about this if it's happened over the last few years i don't people scared probably talk like you think diaz was scared to talk because then he thinks other football coaches won't give him a chance because he did that like what do you I wonder if that's the whole thing I don't know like pack you would know pack you would probably understand honestly more than any of us about this no I wouldn't I've never had a coach tell me to cut my hair or do something to that extent or walk around with your ding ding or whatever it was allegedly that he had those guys doing. But me personally, I just – maybe it's just because the kids that he's recruiting.

I went and looked at the roster. Don't look like he got a lot of inner city kids on his roster. So maybe he got one or two that he probably thought that he can change or whatever. But, like, if you look at the roster it's all it's it's not it's not it's not even like 20 brothers on there i think he comes from a real nice family and there's very good i um i think there is something to the fact that there are some institutions and i feel like the Northwestern football one,

now the way we're looking at it, was like an institution. Like, hey, this is just how it goes. I think there was no expectation for the football team to be good. I think Pat was always talked about as a coach who is a guy who builds men. Yeah, loves his players. And, like, everything like that. But, once again, they never won never won right like ty you know the big time more than me they stunk i think we had this conversation like two years ago or maybe it

was 2019 when i was getting into game day a little bit trying to learn more about college football where i'm like so this guy's been here for how long and they said i'm like this team sucks still like how anywhere else dude would have got like like, hey, we need to win. He just kind of got a pass. You think it's just because Northwestern was like, ah, we have a football team. I think there are definitely levels to it because before he got there, like, they were, you know, bottom five team in college football. Like, just so fucking bad.

And to an extent, I think he did kind of turn them around like in the uh late 2000 late 2000s early 2010s i think they had a couple good seasons and granted they were in the the big 10 west so it was a little you know they weren't playing ohio state and michigan every year so they had a couple opportunities to like actually you know go to the big 10 championship or you know make a bowl game or kind of compete but over the last you know they had that little run and then you're right like over the last five to six years they've kind of gone back down the chute but like uh when when the packers after they got rid of mike mccarthy pat fitzgerald was a name that was on like they were talking about him getting the packers job like he was as hot as, at least back then,

so that would have been, what, four years ago? He was as hot then as he's ever been, and now you wonder, is anyone else going to give him a shot even after this? It is crazy. I don't know. I don't know. Well, he'll be a consultant, right,

because he's going to get paid this money. So he'll go be a behind-the-scenes consultant somewhere. Joining us now is a man who's not from the football world but he's a journalist so i'll be excited to kind of get his take on this the mlb insider for this particular program an absolute dog a man who every time he steps into the batter's box of our program absolutely hits a home run ladies Ladies and gentlemen, Jet Passage. What's up, boys? How are you?

I'm doing like the Orlovsky walk and talk thing today. So this is like, this is new. Normally I'm sitting down on the set. Nah, not today. Yeah, but you look cool. Just don't eat like Orlovsky. He thinks he's fucking Brad Pitt notions of life. It's disgusting.

look cool just don't eat like orlovsky he thinks he's fucking brad pitt notions of life it's his his taste in food is legitimately the worst of any adult human being i've ever met it's it's embarrassing like i i love i love dan dan's a wonderful person dan's like the kindest soul um his palate's garbage his food suck, and I wish he would never ever address food again and just grow up and eat like an adult. When he comes on our show, he just shoves all that terrible food. He's like, look at this. I'm eating mustard with mayonnaise

just by itself. And then he's like, well, I think I think Sham Donald's going to have it. That's like his thing. So I'm appreciative of the walk. It's okay as long as you're not eating. I want to wrap up this because I think you'll probably have a pretty good take on this whole thing. We, as football stooges, thought that the hazing that is being alleged in Northwestern was something of the past

because it felt like there was a time where a lot of these stories were coming out. And then almost as a football community, I don't know about baseball, but as a football community, we're kind of like, ah, we're not doing that type of stuff anymore now fraternities and sororities and other clubs and other sports who knows there's hazing literally in all different places but it felt like football got to a point where we all agreed like let's we'll carry bags we'll get water like we'll do that we'll pay for whiskey we'll take a. We'll do that. We'll pay for whiskey. We'll take a dinner. We'll do this differently than sexual assault, sexual harassment, everything like that. So when this Northwestern story comes out of nowhere, it surprises the hell out of – I was genuinely surprised that that was allegedly still happening.

Not good for football. This is not good for football at all. The journalism aspect of it is one, though, that I think is great. Like, the student newspaper kind of got to the bottom of this. ESPN was running an investigation at the same time. What are your thoughts on a guy losing his job because of allegations? And what

are your thoughts on how this potentially ripple effects into the future, Jed? Look, I have a teenage son who plays organized sports. And this is the sort of stuff that i worry about all the time and ultimately it's on the coach right like that's why pat fitzgerald lost his job because it is his program because he is in charge of every aspect of it and you know if you go back and look at the days of NCAA violations where they actually had like letter

of the law and came down on schools, what was the penalty that you often heard about most? Lack of institutional control. That's what this is. This is lack of institutional control. If you're running a program, you are running all aspects of it and you're responsible for all aspects of it. And, you know, as, as much as we can sit here and say, boys are going to be boys, there are just some lines that cannot be crossed. And I'm glad that now we say these lines cannot be crossed. Like we're making progress as human beings when there is less hazing and less stupidity going on. And incidents like this, I think, really serve to scare straight other programs and other organizations where something like this may happen and leaders may step up and say, hey, this is not okay, not in my program. Jet, I just, I don't want to be naive, and I guess I am naive.

I'm a super, like, nah, that ain't happening. You know, I'm one of those guys. I don't want to be super naive. I'm not sure that type of shit's happening in a lot of places anymore. it might have in the past and aj you can correct me if i'm wrong yeah i don't think like yesterday the natural thought was in 2023 2022 2021 2020 with everybody having cell phones cameras transfer portal you know people being jaded being public about being jaded us just now finding out about that is was a mind blower, especially when it came out. And they're like, yeah, photos have

basically said that this is definitely happening. Now. Did Pat know about it or not? photos are saying it's doesn't matter. I don't know how this doesn't get that. That doesn't matter if that did share a great, great, great, great, great, great, a great, great, great, great different point, though. Like, how do we not hear about this? Like, you know, and if it like, just feels like in the modern era that we're in technology wise, this is something that we should have heard about. It does make you

think like, what's going on other places? You know? Yeah, no doubt. And look, one good thing about journalism, one thing that I will stand up for my fellow reporters for, like, our job is to seek the truth, right? Our job is to expose bad things that are happening. And I give a ton of credit to the student reporters, to my colleagues, and to others who brought this story to light. And I think, like, one thing I'm taking away from this beyond the hazing beyond the details of it like northwestern bungled this entire thing like they handled it so poorly from the get-go and it's fallen back on them and northwestern's i mean northwestern's a school that has a pretty pristine and sterling

reputation and so to to see this to see the way that michigan State mishandled Larry Nassar, to see the way that Michigan screwed it. For the Big Ten, there's been a lot of bad things that have happened. Ohio State, Penn State. Ohio State, Penn State. Yeah. Ohio State. Ohio State. Iowa.

No, but this is – This is erroneous. Iowa. Erroneous. Every Big Ten school. Here's what this comes back to. Every big 10 school. Here's what this comes back to. College sports is a big, big business. And there are going to be people who try and bury.

No, people are going to try and bury skeletons all the time. And that's why reporters. And that's why reporters and that is why people who are willing to speak the truth, whistleblowers are so vital in situations like this because the truth does warrant being exposed. And it is necessary to show that where there is money, there is often ugliness as well. And that ugliness, you know, over the last five years in college sports have been playing out again and again and again yeah it's very fascinating time we're in big transition phase hopefully we'll never hear from hey you know what we'll never hear this type of stuff again jet let's talk about the home run derby and i know ty has a bunch of questions for you as does aj last night was electrifying is that everything that the mlb wanted and quick follow-up here before you and ty dive into an actual conversation here why doesn't the mlb

just say hey you're not allowed to have a friend a dad old high school coach throw to you anymore because if you read some of the internet comments about some of these pictures boy i don't know if they knew they were signing up to be judged as a professional fucking athlete some of these people are being judged as if they're professional athletes out there i'll say this adley rutschman's father was awesome and he here's the thing like he went to new york and threw him batting practice at yankee stadium he went to minnesota and threw him batting practice at Yankee Stadium. He went to Minnesota and threw him batting practice there. He felt like his arm wasn't loose enough, so Randy Rutschman went to Central Park and started playing long toss with his wife, with Adley's mom.

Like, he wanted to be locked in for this. But here's the thing. You know, I asked him, like, how great would it be to win? And he was like, you know what? Winning is not, like not the important thing here. Baseball is such a father and son game. But we played to win the game. There's a million dollars on the line.

Yeah, you know what, though? The moment that they had, imagine that in front of 50,000 people, your dad is just throwing pipes right down the middle, and you're hitting home runs from the left side, and and you're hitting home runs from the left side. And then you're hitting home runs from the right side. And then some guy goes out and beats you 28 home runs, seven of them longer than 440 feet. And then Julio does his thing.

And then Vladdy does like, yeah, it was a good night for baseball. Like there, there were people who had charisma and personality in the Derby. And I think the Seattle was was a little bit better. A lot of pizzazz. I think it was a lot of pizzazz.

Good, AJ. A lot of riz and pizz. Jay, what do you think of the whole format and everything? I know everyone, especially baseball purists, love to be up in arms and saying, hey, we don't need the clock. We need 10 outs. I want to watch the homers go.

I wish Berman was back giving the back, back, back calls. What do you make of all of that? Back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, Put the gas in the jet passing. AJ, sorry about that. How could you not get into the back, back, back, back, back, back, back? It's kind of your fault. It is mine. We're going back. You got it, Jet.

You're clear, Jet. They're not going to interrupt you. You can go. No, of course not. Staring cut. What? Back. You like the format, Jet?

You like it? You like the format, Jet? You like it? I'm not answering this question. Come on. Do you want to go back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, Is there a middle? Is there an in-between? Orlovsky just texted me and said, I thought we were friends. So he's a little hurt. Yeah, he texted me, screw you, too. So I wish we could go back, back, back, back, back, back. Back, back, back, back.

We found a mistake earlier. But AJ brings up a good question. AJ, I'm sorry that happened, but it's your fault that you did it. The internet does get pissed off about not seeing every single ball. And then I guess on ESPN2, they had an actual hit chart. Yes. They're a regular main feed. They didn't like,

how do they fix that? You think, what do you, is there a way to fix it? Or is this what, this is what it is. This is a fucking great event. I was going to say,

are we just going to complain about everything? Like I thought the home run Derby was enjoyable. And I think that the way it's supposed to go is that players aren't supposed to get pitches until the previous one lands but you know they want to win like a million bucks are on the line so well it's not about that it's not about a million bucks

it's about the dad and son remember you just said that just lose all of my money I got nothing anymore. Ty has a question for you. Ty has a lot of questions for you that are good. Let's go back, back, back, back, back to the Thunderdome. Jet, just curious, do you think this is going to be

kind of the group of guys we have going forward? Like I was saying before the show this morning, they would never do it because he would strain like a forearm and be out for eight months. But like Giancarlo Stanton should be in the Home Run Derby every single year. Do you think we're kind of past the point of like the big, really big marquee superstars are going to be in this event

and it's kind of just going to be like these younger guys who are kind of on their way up like are they okay with just grabbing these guys who are about like on the precipice of being huge or do you think we'll go back to a time where we'll see like stanton and judge and and otani and like some of the big mashers actually be in this yeah i i think there's gonna be a balance um i would love to see otani do it one more time. I was standing next to him. He was up on the steps just sort of peeking over.

He was talking with his interpreter, making his picks before the thing actually started. And so seeing him engaged as much as he is makes me think, hey, maybe it's a possibility that he'll be back for one more run. But yeah, this is an event for younger guys like especially with the timed aspect of it like you get tired like it feels like a boxing round for them because they're you know they are out there just taking full-on daddy hacks every time like you know 40 50 swings over the course of three and a half four minutes and uh you know mook, Mookie Betts, like, he got tired.

And Mookie Betts is old. But was the ball back? Or was the balls back? Because Mookie Pitcher, I probably could have threw better balls than Mookie Pitcher. He probably shouldn't have been in it from the get-go, though. Well, he got 26 home runs. Oh, man. In the season.

But that's the other get-go, though. Well, you got 26 home runs. Yeah, man. In the season. Look at Zach with the knowledge. I love this. That's the other thing, though, Jet. Ty, he just made a better point than you did. No, let me – What are you going to do, Ty? Because in the regular season, he's hitting off guys throwing 97, 98, not guys throwing 50 in the home run derby.

But I was going to say, like, the big thing that they're doing with, like, the bonus time and everything, it's guys hitting over 440. Mookie Betts wasn't going to hit two homers over 440. I mean, a couple of the guys did, but if that is what they're... If that's what they're trying to do, don't you think we should have more guys

who are just going to absolutely fucking bomb it? That's kind of what, especially with the launch angle and the stat cast and all that bullshit, like, that's what they're looking for. No, that's, isn't that what you want

to see, too? Don't you want to see dudes hitting like absolute tanks? Juice, guys. Yeah. Yes. That's, like,

that's the ideal thing. You want to see guys, like, the longest home run last night, I think, went 484. I want to see a 500 home run every year. Over 45.

You know. Yeah. All right. You know. Yeah. All right. We know you've got to work today. We know you've got to work today. I know you've got to work today with the All-Star Game. Yeah, man. We appreciate it.

You know where I've got to go? Where? Back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back to work. That was good. That was good, Jet. Not bad, Jet. Killed it Jet I wonder if that

You see the kid get hit in the face in the outfield by the way Cause that kid might be dead Someone tore an ACL too right Probably I think someone in the outfield tore an ACL That's awesome I didn't get to watch it live I had to watch a replay Cause I was traveling

Did they have the 4,000 kids and then like The 6 bigger kids out in the outfield again? You bet. That feels like that could be reimagined a little bit. I think so. I don't know. If kids are going to get hit in the face every single year, put more out there. I'll stick around.

That kid was in the stands. Why didn't the kid get hit in the face when he was in the stands? No, he was on the field. Oh, really? On the field, yeah. Absolute line drive down the line. I mean, the kid dropped like a fucking sack of potatoes. Well, a little self-awareness.

If you're not good and you can't catch, don't be out there. Don't go up there. From Vlad, too. Yeah, but if you're – I never played baseball one time. I'm 10 years old and they go, hey, you want to go out in the outfield for this thing? I'm like, yeah, but yeah. Yeah, I do.

And then little do i know potential herbo got to do it one year he was out there he did oh was anything like his jumper i hope not i think they're a baseball family so i'm boy that's who knows herbo's gotta be better at baseball than he has. He has a bad jumper, really? Oh, my God. No, a bad jumper would be a huge compliment. AJ, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen athletically happen. Like, legit. Is he there? Is he in the Thunderdome?

Yeah. He's watching Netflix. I'm sure he's making his way to a microphone right now. He can hear us. He's out there in the – yep, there he is. He's taking his head. He works out every day. He's properly there in the – yep, there he is maybe out there. He's shaking his head. He works out every day. He's properly jogged.

He runs. He can run a little bit. He runs. He can catch a football. He can throw a football. So like he's handsome. He's charming. So whenever you start thinking, you're like, okay, this kid's kind of athletic.

You know what I mean? Kind of athletic. So just if somebody had zero athleticism and they start to shoot a basketball, I'm like proud of them. If it like hits the rim, I'm like, way to go.

You know, Erbo kind of athletic. I'm expecting a little bit of something. Yes. Because that's just like natural. I started watching this fucking guy shoot. You know, I don't know what the espies is doing tonight

they should roll out a basketball hoop and they should just let herbo shoot for four to five minutes he he does what he thinks he's supposed to do like he'll do the whole he would do the whole thing i've never seen a bigger miss radius out of somebody absurd he'll same exact motion he'll get the ball real confident i'm going up with it he'll hit the front of the rim it's like okay that's not a bad miss then he'll go to the next one he'll miss the entire backboard like he'll miss the entire you know what i mean left or right the whole fucking backboard like just that's a that's a nine foot difference the hoop is 10 feet tall so he's almost a hundred percent off of where he could have been and he's athletic it makes no trash he is no i was when you say bad bad when

you say a bad shot i think of my buddies that never played basketball like wrestling buddies i have that just wrestled their whole life bingo and they get on a court and they shot put the ball straight from their shoulder like Worse than wrestlers. Worse than wrestlers. Yep. Worse than hockey players. Yep. I'd like to see that. It is.

He's bad, AJ. It's a spectacle. AJ, he's bad. What if he drains three live on camera right here? I think he's coming out to shoot right now. Better chance of winning the lottery. Yeah, actually. All right, here we go.

I believe in you. If Herbo makes three jumpers, they will give a hundred people. He is so pissed. Top of the key. This is kind of hazing right now. I'm trying to give him a good moment

because you guys are slandered. I've never seen that face on Herbie before with him shaking his head. We should put him in the gym. We should put him in the Hawk House. Bro, just like the forms there. Boom. That was much better.

He has gotten much better. Almost went in. Okay, Herbie. And he's taking threes. Herbie, take a first. That looks better, though. It looks a lot better than the old shot putters I was talking about. South ball.

Yeah, look at this. One-handed. He's been working on this. Whoa, what? Well. look at this one-handed. He's been working on this. Whoa, what? Well. Still good. Okay.

Okay. He was here until like. He's not shooting his normal jumper. I didn't feel as good on that one. I did the first. Herbie's been putting up like a thousand shots in there. Get your ass down here and do your shot, bro. Yeah.

Do your normal shot. Do your shot. You're off the dribble jumper. Yeah, you're off the dribble jumper. Please. Here we go. Oh. Step back dribble jumper. Yeah, you're off the dribble jumper. Here we go. Step back. Bucket.

He looked good. He got some spring in his step. He looks good. That's what I'm saying. Bro, it's all there. It's all there. He's pretty confident. And then you get to this point, and we have no idea where it's going. I mean, I've never seen it. That was a bad one. Did it go in? No. I mean, I've never seen it. That was a bad one. Did it go in? No.

No. It was an air ball. I mean, he was here until midnight last night working on his jumper, too. He didn't play basketball. Four to five minutes. He didn't, but he's still, like, kind of athletic. It just makes, like. He is.

Yeah. He's a lot of pressure. Listen, if we had never seen anyone in the office play basketball before and, like, we were just picking up teams five on five, he'd be a top three, four pick, I bet. Yeah. I think so. Yeah.

Because he's smacking the floor, obviously. Right. Rebounding. He's Ohio fuck naturally, even though he's lived in other places. Dirty would probably be less. Well, you've seen his shot. I shoot way better than him. Really?

I shoot a thousand times better than him. Dirty. Dirty. Dirty. Hey, dirty's having a baby girl. I shoot way better than him. Really? I shoot a thousand times better than him. Dirty. Dirty. Hey, Dirty's having a baby girl. Thank y'all. Thank y'all. She'll be able to shoot too. Hey, Dirty.

I was about to say, let's hire a tutor for that one. Shit, hold on now. Her mom is way too smart for all that. Oh, hey. Maybe an astronaut. Maybe change the world, whatever the case is. But if she starts to fall in love with sports, I think you should definitely hire somebody to teach her how to shoot. But you've been working. Please.

You've been working, Dirty, which I appreciate. Dirty's better than Herbo, but it is a. Thank you, Pat. It's close. Man, we can shoot all right. Nick and Nick, 98-90. Shit in shitty earth. All right, let's get to a break.

I believe we have Ice Cube joining us on the other side. Let's go. I cannot wait to chat with him. He's been pissed off at everybody. Yeah, he's not happy right now. I can't wait to talk to him. What's going on? Are we okay?

Come on, Ice Cube. What's the deal? Yeah, we're a big Ice Cube fan. Yeah, you're rapping with Matt Westmore. Bro, I got two subwoofers in the back like, what's up, blow the windows out the frame. It's a party when I pull them.

Yeah, love big, big sub. That's it right there. Who's he pissed at? Who's he mad at? At the gatekeepers. The guy who's presenting at the ESPYs probably. Bingo. Yes, sir. Gatekeeper of Ohio.

I'm a big gatekeeper. I've always wanted to be a gatekeeper. You're right. You're Ohio's gatekeeper. Right now, officially, you are Ohio's gatekeeper. It's tough with the delay, isn't it? Yeah. It is a little bit tough,

but what isn't tough is to get into baseball whenever they're having their home run derby like they did last night. So much fun watching Vladimir Guerrero Jr. win the home run derby just like his dad did so many years ago. And obviously watching him take daddy hacks as Jet Passing calls it.

It was reminiscent of his daddy winning the home run derby years ago. That's a fun thing. Tonight is the all-star game. Obviously, it matters. People will care about it. And then tomorrow night, I am here in Los Angeles for the ESPYs. I will have a microphone,

and the man that I'll be introducing here in a few seconds will be presenting an actual award. The Toxie Table is here at Ty Schmidt at Boston Connor and at Boston Connor's Mullet. Boys, you guys are crushing it over there. You too, Pat. You too. Holy hell. We just moved over to Foxy's laptop here. Much clearer picture

than just cell phone. I appreciate Foxy a lot for traveling with me and being here. One half of the hammer. God! Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here. You look great, Tone. Real thin. Brian, you know, was in the Hawk House this morning. Yeah.

Tony moving weights this morning in the Hawk House. You joined the morning, boys? I joined the morning, boys, this morning. What a play by you. We're about to go on like a two-and-a-half-week break. You decide. I love it. Well, you know, I've been waiting for some stuff in my life to happen,

and it finally happened yesterday. So today was the day that we started working out in the Hawkeyes. Way to start bopping again, Bob. That was awesome. Congrats. Congrats. 14-year NFL vet is on the stage there, Adam Pacman-Jones. And joining us live from Manatee, Ohio,

is a man who's a world-renowned awards presenter, and he will showcase that tomorrow night at the ESPYs. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. I'm not 100% sure if our guest is with us or not. Not yet. Okay, so we will

continue our conversation from the first hour. Pat Fitzgerald fired. It's the dawning of a new day at Northwestern. Home Run Derby was last night. Is there anything we've missed, boys? Anything we've missed, boys? The only real big news that I think you probably want to touch on is Anthony Richardson absolutely throwing down at the YMCA and kissing babies. Yeah.

Pac-Man, I know you live over there in Cincinnati, and you love the way that Bengals team looks. Okay. And Joe Burrow is a superstar. They're saying Drake May is the next Joe Burrow, by the way. They're saying he might jump Caleb Williams in this entire who's the first pick of the draft next year with how this year is about to go for North Carolina and for Drake May. He's got Clyde Christensen down there as his quarterback coach, if you do recall.

Clyde Christensen has been in the NFL for like 35 years. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Andrew Luck, many others who he has coached as a quarterback coach, if you do recall, Clyde Christensen been in the NFL for like 35 years, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Andrew Luck, many others who he has coached as a quarterback coach. So that's going to help Drake May going in there. And Joe Burrow's a dog, and the AFC is loaded. And this guy's best friend, who they do plant drugs together all the time, is in the AFC now. And Patrick Mahomes is in the AFC.

Obviously, Lamar Jackson's still in the AFC. Odell Beckham Jr. and Kenny Pickett is in the AFC. Obviously, Lamar Jackson's still in the AFC. Odell Beckham Jr. and Kenny Pickett is in the AFC. All the Bills are in the AFC. There's somebody calling my hotel room right now. I assume it's potentially somebody from the ESPYs who wants to run another

joke by me, but I would like to let everybody know. There's Foxy sneaking in the bathroom, maybe to go bop right now on the phone, but I would like to let everybody know that There's Foxy sneaking in the bathroom, maybe to go bop right now on the phone. But I would like to let everybody know that every time I see a video of Anthony Richardson doing what Anthony Richardson does, which is get up and hi-yay on people all over the place, I get more and more excited for him

and that Shane Steichen offense, where he's going to be doing a little bit of this, and then he's going to be out on the break. You see this when he breaks the second line. And he, right? Nothing like this. don't like how much he uh there you know on the landing and that guy obviously said this motherfucker is unreal this dude's alien could you imagine showing up and seeing anthony richardson playing your pickup and i will say this about indiana basketball good indiana basketball players pickup games here in Indiana are good. Especially down at that Ursa YMCA

downtown that Jim Ursa and his family donated $40 million to or something like that to have happen. What do we need? We need a gym. For who? Well, your grandkids or something. You got it. Fucking $40 million. What do we... We need to get Lolita on a 10-hour

flight. How do we do that just build a fucking aquarium and a plane how much is that 15 whatever fucking 15 jim ursae is an awesome asset to have on your side we all learned that yesterday but so is anthony richardson i do not like though how they're talking about anth Richardson right now, AJ. Jim Mercer is like, well, brother, Bick. Brother, like I said, Peyton Manning played a lot of college football, almost more than Heisman or whatever, and he went 3-13 his first year.

I'm like, wait a minute. Why is that the first thing you're saying? Why is that the first thing you're saying? Then you hear everybody's, I think they're trying to temper expectations as much as possible, probably for the pressure on him. But as an Indianapolis Colt fan, we had the most boring and horrific offense in the NFL last year.

And the thought of that guy who's doing that down at the Ursa YMCA, and we've seen other videos, is now going to be on the field, immediately gets me excited. But it seems like the Colts are trying to tell you, like, let's fucking relax. But I don't want to hear it, AJ. I don't want to hear that. You should want to hear it, though. This is something that I know Michael Lombardi always gets pissed when teams say,

oh, this guy is light years ahead of where he was last year at this point. Like, it's usually talking about quarterbacks. When he's saying, hey, you're doing the guy a disservice because all the fans and everybody who are watching are going to expect this guy to be a finished product when he gets on the field. No, I think the Colts are smart. They know this guy is an absolute freak. Like, how easy he's going to dunk it and put like everything about it i would just be worried okay man don't get hurt that's all i care about yeah when i when i'm

talking about him but hey he's he's so good i think it's great like keep the expectations low so everything the guy does like just kind of ease him along and who knows he may be day one starter you never know hey pat yeah don't go ahead I think you should be geeked, though, because the athletic ability that he's showing us, and we've seen that he can throw the ball a mile away. I think you should be happy. It should be exciting. Me too. Now, he might not make every throw.

We understand that. He's going to throw some interceptions. But it's a lot of ways that he can be um um really good without just using his own every play and i think that picture that was just showing like this dude's bought into being an indie because remember there was a time where people were saying you shouldn't draft this guy especially at four yep because he hasn't played enough football so like with the colts taking a shot on him at four i think he is the most grateful guy in this entire draft. From the way he's talked.

Obviously, he led off with the Marshawn Lynch joke and the way his family spoke. His little brother who sounds like he's Forrest Whitaker, but he's actually 12 years old or whatever the case. I love the cut of this guy's gym. I absolutely love it and enjoy it every highlight i see of him i get excited every act of kindness i see him do i get excited the future is very bright but how long is that future going to be gone man you know how long what because when you're living in it oh yeah you

know when you're living in it it's a lot longer than 10 years from now you look back like remember he had those two years that weren't it's like two years that's five hundred thousand dollars worth of sweet expenses yeah long time well i mean that is without the escalation let's be realistic here's probably close to a million maybe 750,000 depending on how much they want to use you for their promos and then it'll probably be an added fee after that but if we're thinking just like this year probably probably yeah it did happen uh probably you know not gonna happen because i just always go back especially in these situations where it's like athletic freak can throw it a mile you just go to josh allen like josh allen it took him two years he that

third year they went to the playoffs and even then they were still you know a wild card team but they were still a good team and with steichen it does feel like the same with buffalo with josh allen where it's a perfect situation. They're going to kind of cater the team towards him. I do think they're going to be kind of decent, which sucks because I hate the Colts, but I do feel like with Richardson, with some sort of like, okay, this isn't going to be a guy who's going to be here for a year and then we're going to go through learning the system with another quarterback next year

like they have the last four years. This does feel like even for the players like Quentin Nelson and Ryan Kelly who might not have had the best year like it's like a second wind with a rookie and he's 20 so it's not as if he is 25 24 he's coming out of college and he only played his senior year like he's 20 years old they have three years before he's even kind of what all the other rookies are at. I know Mack Jones, I think Kenny Pickett too. They came in at 23. So if you're just looking at age-wise, then he has tons of time.

But, yeah, it is going to be two years of, you know, a lot of money towards season ticket holders and watching this team kind of develop. But you're still going to get that, you know, 80-yard touchdown run from Anthony Richardson out of nowhere. Hell, yeah. Kind of like Justin Fields. Which we need.

Yes, exactly, which just puts asses in seats, or actually the asses are always in seats no matter what happens at Lucas Oil, but at least puts people in some sort of perspective of like, hey. That was kind of a compliment and a shot. At the same time, I don't know how to feel. Incredibly, incredibly comfortable. That is a compliment to both Jim Mercer and the taxpayers of the city

who are paying for the stadium. And it is also kind of a sign of what the team has been as of late. So at least you are getting that. But you're saying they're still going to the games, which they do. The Colts fans will go to the games. That one year... So, obviously, winningest decade in the history of the nfl happened i came in last three years of that okay so i was towards the tail end very lucky to kind of watch the way they operated you know the way that team operated the way jim caldwell operated just the way i was fortunate

as fuck to come in towards the end of that and then obviously they're winning too so it's like a lot of fun yeah i was having documented i was having a blast a little bit too much a little bit too much fun is what everybody would say but whenever you're watching like the tail end of that thing you also notice that the fans are just like hey this is what this is now like we win 12 games a year we win 11 games games a year. We get to the playoffs. The season doesn't start until the playoffs. That's kind of how the Colts fans. Then Peyton ends up with that neck injury, spine injury. And the first time I found out about that during training camp,

and I thought I was pretty close with the guy. I don't know how many people really knew him. He had wires coming out of him. And all of a sudden we go 2-14 that year. Fans are showing up with bags under their head. They're still selling out the stadium. Still selling out the stadium, are showing up with bags on their head they're still selling out the stadium okay still selling on stadium still showing up but they're showing up like it's the fucking cleveland browns like embarrassment this embarrassment is like okay so colts fans have come to expect like

we're winning yeah but colts fans will still show up if you're not, but they're going to let the team know. You know, like last year, boy, there was 70,000 people in that stadium every single week that wishes they were watching anything else other than those fucking horrible football games. So if this guy comes in, does a couple backflips, does a couple fucking long throws, that's a win. That's a fucking win, I think, as a guy who's trying to build a business.

And you listen to the Chargers talk. And the way the Chargers spoke, and the way Coach – Staley and Tom Fosco talked about it. Brandon Staley, yeah. But the way Staley talked about it when he pitched, I think, to become the head coach, to become the offensive line, he's like, we're going into L.A. We need to have an explosive, entertaining brand of football.

It's like with Andy Richardson, we automatically have that. I think that is miles ahead than what we were. And I think that is a big deal, too, even if we do fucking suck next year. I don't think y'all are going to suck, man, because the running game should be back. I know y'all ain't got that good of a line, but if that boy healthy, y'all will be all right. What's that, Tom? You guys, or is there any NFL facility that actually has like a half-court or full-court basketball hoops in it?

Yeah. Oh, there is. Okay. We have one in Tennessee. I mean, say Cincinnati have one. A lot of them do, yeah. And we have one in Tennessee, too. I just figured they wouldn't just to try to avoid

injury because you're right. That's such bullshit, bro. What? That's such bullshit. Like, AJ saying that, like, where he said, I'm just worried he's getting hurt. Like, I actually No, that's the truth. No, agreed. I actually thought that while I was watching it, too. I'm like, Anthony, we don't need you dunking on

these fucking people. To his ankle there, you know they're not going to pay him. Yeah yeah but then whenever we think back to when we were playing like those guys that the only cardio they would do is basketball and it's like when people were telling him like hey don't do that i'm like they're fucking they could they could get hit by car but it's like true but also anthony let's not, you know. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's in the Hall of Fame of Life. Obviously, megastar on the stick, on a microphone. He's written and produced and acted in movies that have sold millions. Hey, millions!

Of dollars in tickets. I assume he's got 15 new projects on the mind currently. He's the founder of the Big Three, which is currently taking place on CBS during the weekends. We've all been catching up with it. Saw Mario Chalmers playing last weekend, actually. Ladies and gentlemen,

Ice Cube. Hey, what's happening with y'all? Hey, Cube. Good to see you, man. I'm in LA right now, actually. Getting a little sense of this beautiful, fine weather. It's not bad out here. Not bad. You look like you in L.A. I mean, you kick back.

You know what I mean? You know, all you need is a what you what you drinking on, man. You know, I look like a little dark liquor right there. Well, most people say it's my piss, Cube, so I appreciate you not saying that. But it is actually just a green tea, but I did stop by one of the local greeneries. Yeah. One of the local greeneries. Pretty sure you did. Pretty sure you did.

How's Big 3 going, man? How's the season going? I watched last weekend. I saw you sitting courtside. You looked awesome. I saw the teams continue to play. It feels like the level of play from previous seasons has been upped a little bit. How do you feel about how the season's going,

and what are your thoughts up to this point? Amazing, man. You know, we had great games, and you're right. The athletes have gotten a lot better. You know, you have to bring it in the big three. You know, nobody takes a playoff. And we had an amazing turnout in Brooklyn. We celebrated the 50th anniversary of hip-hop,

so we had a lot of the pioneers, you know, from Grandmaster Flash to Melly Mel to charis one uh come out chill out you know uh jaarul performed you know so it was just mop got down you know it's just it's growing um at the rate that we expected you know uh we're getting more and more people watching every week uh we started off you know like 493 um as far as ratings 493 000 then it went to 502 last week now it's up to 525 this week so it's moving in the right direction people are loving the big three. They're getting into it and they're having a ball with it. We got week four coming up in Memphis on Saturday. Those are massive numbers for the middle of summer.

You should be incredibly proud. You should be incredibly proud by that. Go ahead, AJ. I heard you talk about the NBA players aren't really allowed to talk about the Big 3 anymore. They don't for some reason. What do you think is going on there? Why would they not be able to promote or just talk about how cool it is i think they were just told not to mention the big three on there um i mean we know how much the nba really you know we saw we could see how much the nba really um controls who talks about

them and who who doesn't and what's said and and what's not said about the league or other leagues. So I was told by somebody I trust who actually played in the Big Three who was an announcer that he couldn't speak on it on air. Isn't that interesting, though? Because wouldn't you think more basketball is good for all basketball? Right. You know what I mean? Like, popular basketball is good for all basketball.

Have you tried to press a little bit to get more answers or information on why you think that is the case? Well, when we met with Adam Silver and Mark Tatum in 2017 when we started the league, that's exactly what he said. He said more basketball is better for all the basketball. And, you know, it's just shocking that – it's not really shocking, but, you know, I'm just saying it with your mouth. Cube, you're in sports world.

You're in music world. You're in movie world. You're in every world, right? I mean, Writers Guild's strike's going on right now. I assume you have some sort of thing in that. How come there's so much bullshit in everything, you think, Cube? Have you done a deep dive into why? Because just for me now, obviously, I didn't come from Compton, and we were very lucky to kind of see the entire come up of you and your crew

and why you changed the world and everything like that. But I didn't have a lot of connections or knew a lot of people that were in successful positions growing up. I think the most successful person I met was like my dad's friend who was potentially a professor somewhere. And that was like, Oh, this guy made it. He was driving a fucking BMW or something like that. But now that I'm kind of getting through life and you start meeting these people who are at these top places, it's very eye opening about how much bullshit is out there. I assume you've had to deal with this a lot. Why do you think that's the case?

Why do you think that is the case? You know, people will lie and do things that are diabolical to to protect their interests to protect their money to protect their status um to not have to deal with competition um so you know they you know it's a lot of bush in the air you know a lot of it has to do with money and controlling the money um and you know we have to all have big shovels to even breathe because we all, you know, I did an album called Everything's Corrupt. So I know what you're talking about. I fucking love that you're a part of our society, that we need more people like you. Pac-Man has a question for you.

Q, my first question, I was looking at the cities y'all going to is it any I like that shirt I like that shirt you smell me yeah man I like that shirt baby yeah um are you coming to when can we get it in Atlanta Cincinnati or Indy oh you know we were in Atlanta last year for the championship um you know, the thing is, it's like a rolling all-star game. You know, you got to catch us when we come through. You know, we're going to hit Memphis. We're hitting Charlotte. Hopefully next year we can get to Cincinnati.

We can get to Indiana. We've played Indianapolis before. Okay. And so, you know, we're just – we got to pick our uh pick and choose you know basically 10 spots to play in and you know like i said if we somewhere near you please come through fall through come in and uh have fun with us you know it's worth the trip it's worth a uh a special uh fly in to find the big three you know lot of guys do it. I'm going to catch you. Pat, go ahead.

Your second question. Pat, go ahead, pal. How hard is it getting top athletes to come over and play in the big three that's coming from the NBA? Well, you know, some guys when they retire, you know, they're done. So it's not really about your name at this point it's about your game you know oh can you still play at this level can you still do you still have the fire and the passion yeah to be a pro and um these guys ain't playing you know you get you get more money if you

win than if you lose in the big three so you, you know, that makes you play hard every day of the week. So you have to have a level of – you've got to be ready to fight for it and play hard, and it's not ticky-tack, you know. So you've got to be a true baller that want to play in the traditional style. So you're making it a spectacle these live events it sounds like and i think that's the right play because when people get out you said it's worth a trip or whatever with what covid was with the amount of people that were just kind of locked in their houses kept in their houses i think people getting out and going doing things is a whole thing now

like all right we got to go do this whole thing so you making it a big time show with big three basketball also taking place i think that's the right play has it always been that way are you trying to lean into that more or what do you see for the future no it's always been that way uh we've always seen you know sports and entertainment as uh you know like macaroni and cheese you know they go together and as long as you as long as you take the sport serious and you don't muck around with how the sport is played you know we have unique rules but you know we take those very serious but everything else is fun everything else is entertainment we let the guys trash talk. We play six games in one day. You know, they last about 45 minutes apiece. So it's a whole day. So we got to make it a festival. We got to make it, you know, a festive day, you know.

And so we got entertainment coming through. We got dunkers, dancers, DJs, break dancers. You know, we got activations. Monster Energy is doing things, you know. We just got to, yeah, we just, you know, we're taking the kind of, you know, WWE approach of just making it a massive entertainment spectacle and have fun with it and then make the games deadly serious. It's a fun

event and it's affordable. You're seeing families at my events. A lot of kids who won't break the bank. It's a whole day of entertainment. Get out that sun and come see the big three. Dude, it's something to do. Like, I think that's a, you know what I mean?

A lot of these places, there ain't shit to fucking do. So, like, it's something to do. It's an incredible spectacle, it sounds like. You're going to watch great athletes do their thing. Ratings are boosting on TV every single week. Feels like you got, hey, let's go. Fuck those gatekeepers yeah huh we're rolling we are rolling you know we you know we hop gates when we hit fences you know i'm saying so

i'm used to that you know everywhere i wanted to go that was locked up we just hit the fence and went in anyway so you know um that's how we get down. So they ain't stopping. You can't stop the bum rush. Public Enemy told us that in 1987, and it's true. I love that. I'll tell you what. There comes an age, though, where you can't get over that fence anymore. You know? That's all right.

You know, you send the youngins in, and they come unlocking for you, and you walk through. Yeah, yeah. We're going to get in. We're going to get in. We need you to come. We're going to get in. Connor has a question

for you q yeah q but one of the things that we loved that you were doing before was mount westmore and i know you guys came out with an album last year has there been you know more stuff with that and do you think that's something that maybe you know at these big three events you guys might just you know pop up there and do a couple songs for the people in the stands or what? I mean, I would love for the Mount Westmore to get down. You know, you're dealing with four superstars that got multiple businesses. So sometimes it's hard for us to all get together. You know, during the pandemic, it was a little easier.

But, you know, it's a little harder now, which is fine, because we're always going to get down. I think we're always going to do music and drop music, and we'll tour when the timing is right for everybody. Big, big, big, big sub woofer in the back, like, what's a floor to windows at the frame? It's a party

when I pull up. Hey, that's a fucking banger yes that is a that is a because there was a time i don't know when he came on maybe two years ago three years ago i forget what it was and i was like hey q we need some fucking bangers yep nobody's making bangers anymore and then you guys showed up a big subwoofer i want to let you know i'm very i'm very grateful for that much like connor i think we're all excited for you guys to get back into the studio and get to a show digs has a question for you yeah now that you guys have been doing it for a few years have you found like a feeder system for for the league like is there is it guys from the nba that perform best or college or where are

you finding the best three three verse three playersthree players? You know, that's a great question. It's its own sport. It has its own skill set. So we've been surprised a lot. You know, some guys come from the NBA. We think they're going to light it up, and they get locked up. And some guys who never made it to the NBA, you know, Kevin Murphy, he's our MVP. I think he had maybe a year or two in the NBA.

But, you know, he's our MVP. Isaiah Briscoe, you know, two-time champion going for a three-peat. So it's its own thing. You know, in the NBA, in five-on-five, you can be a specialist. You can be a defensive guy. You can be a three-point specialist. You can be a rebound guy. In the big three, can't do that. You got to be able to dribble

pass, shoot, and defend. If you can't do that all at a high level, you will be exposed and you will not have success in the big three. It's not about your name. It's about your game. We thought you were going to light it up.

You got locked up. A lot of bars coming out of the big three. I got the bars. I got the bars for days. You know what I mean? I got the bars. I got bars like Pac-Man got hands. Pac-Man got hands for you, baby. Smell me. Smell me. Pac-Man got hands. You know, Pac-Man got hands for you, baby. Smell me.

Smell me. Pac-Man will put them hands on you. So I got bars like Pac-Man got hands. Cube, did you hear about, hey, you remember that? We all saw the video of him beating the fuck out of that guy at the Atlanta airport with Popeye's chicken in his hand. Did you? We learned. We literally just learned of this a couple months ago.

That was because Shaq, he was literally fighting somebody because they talk shit to Shaq. Popeye's chicken in his hand. We literally just learned of this a couple months ago. That was because Shaq, he was literally fighting somebody because they talked shit to Shaq. Could you imagine being Shaq's bodyguard? That's fucking Pac-Man. It's a wild story. I mean, he was, you know, he was, you know, for lack of a better word, you know, a beast on the field, of a better word, you know, a beast on the field, you know, fast and feisty and would lock you up.

And so it's just great, you know, that I get a chance to say what's up. Man, it's great to have you on here speaking, Holly, man. You're very inspirational. I'm going to watch everything you've done, man. I appreciate that too, man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Hell, yeah. This is cool. Look at this. Yeah, absolutely. Hell yeah, this is cool.

Look at this. How about it? What? We just had a moment. You're bringing us together, man. You're bringing us together. I appreciate it, man. Got the best job in the world, too, bro. Best job in the world. Get to sit here

and talk shit with these guys. Cube, I told him, though, he's got to shave those fucking dreads. Nah, nah, nah. Pac-Man got to be Pac-Man now. No, no. Hey, we're talking about how

dumb people are, bro. Think about some... Allegedly this was happening at a pretty successful place where uh football players would come in and be like yeah you gotta shave those dreads off your head or whatever it's like why would you ever fucking what what what do you want to succeed or do you want to i don't under this is the world we're in right now i don't know if you've heard about this northwestern has this football situation right yeah that is just like only –

Dude, yeah, there's a hazing thing going on. They just fired a coach. Cube, this guy's been a coach for their team for 17 years. He got fired last night because of some hazing stuff and some other racist stuff that's come out. It's like they stink, though. It makes sense why they stunk. They maybe had a coach.

You wonder why? Yeah. You wonder why. That's what I'm saying. Hey, how's the culture of the teams? Teams hang out with each other? Like, what is the – how often are they around? Do they practice?

What is it like for the big three teams? Yeah, they definitely hang out together. You know, we got a family atmosphere for sure because we're together for 10 weeks throughout the whole summer. That's why you don't want to lose to nobody because they're going to be in your ear from week one all the way. You can't escape. You know, they're always there.

So, you know, the trash talking is always flowing. And what they do, they fly in a day before the games and get a practice in and, you know, a run through. You know, not too much. We want them fresh for Saturday. You know, having a week off, it really allows them to, you know, recover naturally and be ready to go hard again, you know, by the weekend. So we treat it like the NFL in a lot of ways.

You know, not too much wear and tear during the week, but let's get down on Saturday. There it is. The thing is, there's some coaches that I've literally heard them say, let's just get these fucking guys to Sunday. Okay, please. We don't have to. Let's just get these guys to Sunday.

Okay, we got Toradol coming Sunday morning. Let's just get these guys to Sunday. Well, we got to go through. Okay, let's figure out how to do that in a different way. Let's just get these fucking guys to Sunday. I like that you have that with the big three because you've got some older players. Obviously, Mother Nature and Father Time are going to do their thing,

and I think that's smart. That's why the ratings are climbing. AJ has a question for you, Q. Yeah, I know I've heard people say, like, I wish you guys would go get Dwight Howard, try to get him in the big three. Guys like that may be playing overseas. Is it hard to try to recruit some of them, or do you think you're going to get some to come on over um it depends you know each guy is

different of course we we went after dwight after isaiah thomas you know after a few guys and you know maybe he's having too much fun in taiwan i don't know um so, but we're here. You know, he may not want to play this year. He may want to play next year. The thing about the big three is you won't age out. You know what I mean? It's like you can play or not.

If you can't play at this level, you'll probably know. And, you know, and back out. But we're always here. You don't play this year. You can play next year. We'll have a spot for him.

How about Dwight? He is having a blast on his internet. Crush it. It's a whole new – I've been watching like Dwight Allen's fucking loving his life right now. I don't know if any of them speak the language. They are. They are. They are.

He rich in Taiwan, man. What's not to love? You're right. It's going to be tough to get him in the big three. It's going to be tough. At least you guys are going to take the whole thing over there. Last question here for you from Ty. Yeah, Cube, you mentioned all the different businesses you have going on.

And I know – I'm not sure if Clyde Drexler is still the commissioner of the Big Three. I know he was at one time. But you're obviously very, very hands-on with that. Does it ever get difficult juggling all the shit you have on your plate, whether it's your businesses and then all the stuff you have with the TV and then the film industry and your music? And then when something like this with the Big Three happens and there's all this red tape and bullshit

and you kind of have to deal with it, does it get difficult kind of juggling all that stuff and not putting certain stuff before other stuff? Sometimes it gets thick. I wouldn't say difficult because proper planning, you can be able to deal with any situation. You know, what I find time, what I have, you know, what I find difficult sometimes is making sure I carve out time for me to be creative and for me to think of the great ideas that need to be thought of to keep you know my career going so you know i don't let them pack my schedule so tight to where i can't have those moments where i

can still be creative and think about you know what i want to do um as far as an artist so that's probably the hardest part is making sure I You know, it's like making sure you work out, you know, I mean, so it's making sure you give yourself time to Think of the good ideas and not just be bogged down with execution What do you do? You guys smoke some dope you go into a studio? What do you do? No dope i just i just tell everybody you know never smoked up don't call me i mean i smoke weed that's what we're talking about yeah yeah yeah that's all yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that's what we're saying i ain't smoking nothing i ain't smoking nothing harder than that never have never will yeah so yeah neither are we we're all on the same page

we're all on the same page that's're all on the same page. That's good, man. Ain't nothing like understanding, man, because the worst thing in the world is misunderstanding. At the end of the day, I just put the phone down. Don't respond until I'm ready. Don't care about what's going on until I'm ready to deal with it. You playing music? You playing music in the background? Sometimes.

Playing music. Really, I'm usually, I think about things I want to do days and weeks in advance. I'm planting a seed in my own mind. weeks in advance i'm planting the seed in my own mind and so when i'm ready to do it it's already kind of there so it's really about just making it happen all right well i hope i get a chance to smoke dope with you talking about weed you can smoke some weed man you know i mean yes sir anytime yeah vitamins vitamins smokes of vitamins tell your son we said We can smoke some weed, man. You know what I mean? We can smoke some weed. Yes, sir. Anytime. Yeah, vitamins. Vitamins.

We'll smoke some vitamins. Tell your son we said what's up. Go ahead. No, go for it. Go for it. Go for it. No, you're about to say we're smoking weed. Yeah, no, I'm just saying. No, it's just medicine.

You know, it's medicine. I'm not a doctor, but that's what I've been told. I've been told it's medicine as well. So, I that's what i've been told you know i've been told it's medicine as well so i mean i'm supposed to trust doctors they told me that i don't know yeah i don't know you tell me nonetheless please tell your son we said what's up i'm a big fan and i'd like to let you know that we were so pumped that you were coming on the show today that is why we did the show today just want to let you know that to chat with you i appreciate that today that is why we did the show today just want to let you know that to chat with you i appreciate that appreciate it we're about two and a half week break coming two and a half week break coming oh

start tomorrow salute man have fun you know if y'all anywhere around where we at come come through unless you go on your way to uh taiwan what y'all like this weekend? Memphis, right? We in Memphis. Memphis this weekend. We in Memphis. Yeah, we right down the street from, you know, we right down the street from Nashville, man. Come on through, man. Where are you next week? Huh?

Where are you next week? After that, I believe it's Miami. I believe it's Miami or Boston. Boston. We're in Boston. We're in Boston. Yeah. Wow. They love their basketball.

Boston. Nobody's going to Boston, but we will. They're going to come through. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Boston people will. But I'm just saying, outside, we don't need us going to Boston. You know what I mean? We will definitely come to a show, though. You're absolutely crushing it. We appreciate

the hell out of you. Good luck on everything. Thank you for trailblazing for all of us. Hey, man. Appreciate you guys coming in on your day off. Don't get fired, you know what I mean? Like Craig and Friday. Take it easy. Ladies and gentlemen, my school.

He wrote that. You got knocked the fuck out. He wrote that. Unreal. Genius. He got that. You got knocked the fuck out. He wrote that. Unreal. Bars. Genius. He got bars. Yeah, they're going to come in and they get locked up.

It's not about your name. It's about your game. It's like, God damn, that brain just never stops doing it. Still got it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I appreciate the fact that he was on a big fuck everybody yeah i love that i wrote an album called everything's corrupt so i know what you're

saying yeah yes knows exactly what you're saying he signed on to do a movie with uh isn't he supposed to do a movie with old don batista coming up here oh i read that i don't know if you're true or not, but I read that somewhere. I think I saw that as well. We'll see. Everything might be. Pat, you going to a big three or what? Yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to catch the game. You said we'll see with what? What? Play. I'm going to see which game I'm going to catch. Yeah, I'm going to catch. So, Ben, Pat, play point guard for him. No.

No. No, Paul, hand me. No, no. Also, perform a song or two. That might happen. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Entertainment. I'll give him a song or two. That might happen, yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Entertainment.

Get AB in there with you. Nah. Well. Goddamn. We got bangers. AJ. We got bangers. What the hell is that?

Have them open for you then. You say AB doesn't have bangers? I just got home from the end of. Shame. That's a good day. John Payne talking about the deal, though. It's bars. Put that shit on.

Put that shit on. Put that shit on. He does have some bangers. He does. I don't know if Big 3... He got about four of them there. That's pretty decent. There you go.

Yeah. I don't think Big 3 would be able to afford it. Yeah. Exactly. To what I'm saying. I'm not sure they would be able to afford it. Yeah. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'm not sure they'd be able to afford an Antonio Brown situation. What were you saying there, Ty? There's something going on.

The writer's strike, obviously, is a real thing that's affecting a lot of stuff. Obviously, we know that. And we hope everybody gets everything that they want. Have we learned what they want? And have they negotiated with people? Are we near the end of that? And then I heard the actors are potentially getting involved now. So what's about to happen here yeah what are you here the actor's strike would be if the

actors go on strike that would be a massive blow that would basic everything would come to a screeching halt if that in terms of the writer's strike i i don't know i think they're kind of still doing it but they it's it's all about you know the ai writing scripts and stuff like that and then same deal these people who work on these tv shows get paid and then the network sells the tv show to like a streaming platform for hundreds of millions of dollars or whatever and they don't get a penny of it so i think they're still pissed about that but they basically said if the actors go on strike like literally everything comes to a screeching halt. It'll be a stance. Everything that's in production right now basically just stops immediately.

No actors can go on press junkets or tours, can't talk about anything that they might have worked on or might be working on in the future. I don't know if that one's actually going to happen. It seems like they'll probably get what they want more likely than the writers would in terms of expediency. Supposedly today, right? Yeah. Today is basically the deadline. Wow.

Crazy times. Hopefully they get it all figured out. Hey, hope you all figure it out. TC is the broker of the deal. Yeah, exactly. Need TC to just walk in there, kick down the door like TJ Watt and just get this thing done. I'm sure he will. All right, boys. I'm going to take a massive dump.

Nice. Hell yeah. Okay. You don't have a pinky ring, right? No. I do have a bidet in here. Thank you for asking. I am going to get a waterfall in my butt.

Pretty good. You lucky son of a bitch. I bidet this morning after a pee. Yeah, I bidet this morning after a pee. Sure. Why not? Might as well. That's awesome.

Come on. Come on. Stand up and get a drink afterwards. Yeah, well, I have not drunken directly out of the bidet just yet, but this one has great water pressure the shower in this particular hotel has the greatest water pressure that i've ever experienced in a hotel ever that's

important real treat yeah pillows are ass absolutely of course i mean that is hotel pillows i i think the thing about them is there's so many rooms so there's so many pillows have to there's so many pillows that have to be purchased. So I think that there's always a decision made to get the shitty pillows

because how many you have to buy. And boy, that is a real, we got to start thinking that more whenever we're going to go stay in a hotel, like, Hey, maybe take a pillow. Yeah.

Because the pillows are terrible. You know, it does make sense. That's where they're saving their money. Because I mean, in some of those places, everything is perfect. But then you go to lay your head down at night, you know, and you're sleeping on cardboard.

Yeah. So then you just go take a pee, turn on a bidet, rub the bottom, and just try to fall back asleep. On the bidet. That's right. Oh, I don't know. That would be too much. I overstimulated butthole.

True. It's going to be hard to sleep ask I'm not saying who's that he's associated with the Patriots for sure what who I'm just saying if you're going to get a stimulated butthole

it's going to be hard to fall asleep what are we talking about? It's weird because there's only one thing that's right. Oh, I know what you're saying. Sorry, my head's in Lebanon right now. I can't

get my mind off of that. What's going on? What's happening in Lebanon? Stuff. Bro, inside jokes on a tuesday this is awesome this is incredible uh there was a story about somebody's butthole coming out of the patriots that obviously we talked about off air that we cannot talk about on air because we do get sued for stuff now actually so lebanon though we have to there's another thing chatting about in the group text i mean there's a whole it's on the group text. I mean, there's a whole – It's on the internet.

Well, that's what I've heard. Everybody's going, even dead people. So it is a wild time to be alive. We are very lucky to be an internet sports program, and we are very thankful. This man tomorrow night is going to be presenting an ESPY award. Can't wait. Can't wait.

Ty, anything to say to AJ, you know, when he heads out there to deliver the best award in the history of award shows? I'll tell you what, you better make them laugh. Because if you don't, oh, boy, they're going to remember you. They're going to say I was the worst presenter in the history of the ESPYs. Whoa, I didn't expect that. I wanted like a Coach Lou Holtz, maybe like a – I'm not going to speak, actually, Ty.

Oh, yeah. I don't think I'm going to speak. I'm not going out there to be fun. Well, listen, AJ, okay? We don't need the, oh, woe is me. I don't want to present it to you. It is a great honor, okay? It's one of the greatest American award shows in the history of this country.

What? And you get to go up there, and you get to bestow this honor, this trophy, on one of these fine athletes or multiple athletes. I don't know what, I'm not privy to what awards you're giving out just yet. Neither are we. Okay, so you guys don't even know either. So there's another moment.

You get to say, wow, I get to give out the award for the best WWE superstar. I mean, can you imagine? Did you ever think in your life, you know, yeah, you won a national championship in college. You won the Super Bowl championship. You know, you're the fucking president of the Ohio State. You're not my president. That's Donald J. Trump, number 45.

But you're the president of Ohio, and now you get to present an ESPY. How many people can say that? Don't dress like a jackass either. Your parents are going to be watching. Pistol watch to make sure you look good on the red carpet with your brother. That's right. Thank you, Coach.

I agree. You turn me around, Coach, for real. I do. I've changed my mindset on this going in, so thank you, Coach. I understand why you're a legend. The this going in, so thank you, Coach. I understand why you're a legend. The world is thankful, not just you, Val. You're getting... You get to, not have to, AJ.

I told you. Honestly, it'll be great. I'm excited. It'll be fun just to be in the room. To be clear to the people that are watching, I am forcing AJ to do this, obviously. Obviously. They didn't want AJ to be the face of the arthur ash courage award or i don't know i don't know what if that's the case or what what award we're giving out but i do know that

i know that aj wasn't necessarily like the most excited to potentially and then as soon as I heard him not excited, that made me super super excited. You know, and then just kind of had to work some angles and be like, you know what I think? I think the all-time leading tackle for the Packers deserves to present an award, doesn't he? Doesn't he deserve to do that? And lo and behold,

guess what we got? Here we are. We got the president of Ohio going out there tomorrow night to fucking make memories. To give somebody a night that they're going to remember forever, AJ. Think about that. Think about that. Think about it. Think about it, AJ.

Come on, AJ. Come on. I am. I get thrust into many situations that I would not have had I not ever met you or been doing this program with everybody. And I've grown to absolutely enjoy how bizarre it usually is. I'm looking forward to it.

Hell yeah. This is not the first time I forced AJ to do something that I've been forced to do. Sorry, I'm so glad. Certainly won't be the last either. This is probably my favorite up until now. This is a good one.

The entirety of it. Start to finish. This is probably my favorite up until now. This is a good one. The entirety of it. Yeah, start to finish. Yeah, the whole thing here. This is the best one. Pumped. Pumped. Pumped, dude. Well, just think, the day after that, you guys get to do ayahuasca with Aaron.

How about it? Right there on the course. Put the lights off. Put us in a dark hole. Fucking grab the ayahuasca. Let's play some golf. Let's get rowdy. All right.

I'm out of here. Big thanks to Ice Cube. Big thanks to Jet Passant. AJ, thank you, sir, for coming early. Pac-Man Jones, thank you for making the trip, bro. Hey, you know Ice Cube? Seems like he's a big fan, bro. I have never met him in person.

That seems like it's going to happen, huh? Doesn't it? Yeah, that seems like it's going to happen. That's cool. What if he puts you in a fucking movie? What if you do a collab with Wes Moore? I mean, Pat, let's go. Oh, shit.

Hey, he's a good person to know. Great person to know, actually. I mean, he's let's go. Oh, shit. Hey, he's a good person to know. Great person to know, actually. I mean, he's fucking, his brain is a big one. Yeah. Big brain. And he also got a lot of fuck you in him, too, which I, you know what I mean? Yeah. I like that.

I need that. I'm a hot type of guy. How about him with that baseball bat? Mm-hmm. That scene in the movie. Oh, is that right? Huh? Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. the movie oh is that right huh okay okay okay okay toxic table great work this week pal you know two days had three days last week that's a full week that's right yeah true yeah there you go didn't even think about it i wish i could i wish i could give you guys pats on the back right now no i give you pats on the back save those for No. I'm going to give you pats on the back. Save those for Friday. Actually, boys, if you could please, please. Look, it's a Tuesday. This is what makes pats on the back not pats on the back when you do them like this. You know this. Ty gets it.

Shut up. Give him the tie. Give him both, especially for that Lou Holtz. Spread them out. Nice. Tony, that was yours. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate that. That was wonderful. that was yours. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Appreciate that. Back, man. Great work. Great work. Tony's taking some for himself. Appreciate it. That was fantastic. AJ?

AJ? AJ, turn over. Other way. Put your penis down, dude. What do you mean? What do you think I'm doing with my penis? You were trying to put it in his hand. That would have been amazing.

Don't do that. That would have been weird. Don't put your dog in my hand. Imagine if we did the, you know, Drake at that concert. Drake at that concert where he got the thing from the hologram that was actually a kid. What if right there we would have set up where it was like I reach in and I grab something and I bring it back. Grab the double cider underneath AJ's desk.

We need to do that. We need to figure that out. All right. Let's jot that one down. A lot of people watching. Jot that one down. We'll do it. Dump it.

Dump it. We'll do it later. We'll do it later. All right do it later we'll do it later all right everybody have an incredible one tomorrow night sbs oh yeah friday saturday sunday the boys will be on the call for our uh road to tahoe presented by pxg finale which is obviously the american century championship aj hawks presenting an award tomorrow we'll be back in a few weeks i mean let's enjoy it I would like to let everybody know as I sit in this overpriced hotel that has great water pressure and a bidet right behind me and getting an opportunity to go speak on the SB stage is

really cool and there's some people obviously that don't enjoy the SBs and hate the SBs and have attacked me for this I would like to let everybody know even the people that have attacked me for this like I'm very appreciative of everybody know, even the people that have attacked me for this, like, I'm very appreciative of everybody that lets us do this for a living. Obviously, there's no show if no motherfuckers watch it. It would just be a group of friends talking on into microphones with nothing else. We are very lucky to have a show. We feel like our show is good. We feel like we have a good time.

But at the exact same time, our show stinks. And we can understand why you wouldn't like it so it's kind of a conflicted thing over the next couple weeks why don't you really think whether or not you want to watch our show again yeah i mean like smart over the next two weeks go try to watch some other stuff go try to see if anything else will make your life a little bit smarter or better but those types of things and if we see you when we get back know that this show is going to remain

this show it is literally impossible to change it the reason why it's impossible to change it is because the brains that create this show have already been fully developed and have gone to this is what this is so we are very lucky. We are very thankful.

We hope you'll continue to rock with us. And if you don't, we understand. Have the greatest couple of weeks of all time. We'll see you tomorrow night. We'll see you this weekend. And yeah, this is an honor of a lifetime getting to do this every day for all you

motherfuckers. Even if you say terrible things about me on a regular basis, which happens in this profession. So I love you. We love you. We appreciate you. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life. Goodbye.