The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 944 - Bills GM Brandon Beane, Michael Lombardi, Tony "Smoke" Stewart LIVE In The ThunderDome, Pacman Jones, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat more about the Jonathan Taylor and Colts situation and where it might wind up, Damar Hamlin’s comments to the media after his first day of training camp and what it means for him to be back on the football field, as well as everything else happening around NFL training camps as the start of football season is starting to feel closer and closer. Joining the progrum to chat about Damar Hamlin and how special it is for the team that he’s back, his approach to building the roster throughout training camp, how difficult it is handling a situation like Nyheim Hines’, the amount of pressure on the Bills going into the season and much more is the GM of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Beane (1:07:35-1:35:31). Next, 3x Super Bowl Champion, NY Times best selling author, host of the GM Shuffle and the Lombardi Line, Michael Lombardi joins the show to chat about Jonathan Taylor, Jim Irsay, and the Colts, the RB market as a whole, people saying that Justin Fields is primed for a breakout season, and everything else happening around the NFL (1:49:06-2:20:10). Later, NASCAR Hall of Famer, 1997 IndyCar Series Champion, 3x Nascar Cup Series Champion, one of the greatest drivers of all-time, Tony “Smoke” Stewart joins the show to chat about his career, the NHRA cars that he’ll be racing over Labor Day weekend, what it takes to be a successful race car driver, if racing was what he always wanted to do, the differences between Nascar now and when he was racing, and more (2:20:12-2:39:26). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdale. On this Tuesday, August 1st, 2023, this sports program starts right now. Sports! Oh, boys. Gentlemen. Listen, I don't want to have to do this because, damn, it's our second day back. And it's not the fault of the man who's first day back. Yeah. That's on us that cannot be how this particular this is a holiday in the mcafee house today so oh man cannot have the show stumbling out of the gates that especially with the crosshairs on us boys yeah they are looking for anything any little

slip up any little potential opportunity to say this is the reason and you guys lead the show like that? Good lord. From the top, Foxy. Quiet defense. Roll that beautiful intro footage, please. Figure it out. God damn it. Boys, what is it? It's football.

Football. This show fucking stinks. The fact that you listen, we are very, very thankful for it. AJ, you never cease to amaze me with your toxicity power. You got a couple of these? God damn it! What the fuck are you doing? Fuck Boston!

What the fuck? Hey. Hey, welcome to our Humble About the Thunderdome on this special Tuesday, August 1st, 2023. This sports program starts right now. Football! Here we go. Hey, you see? Here we go.

All right, we're off to running. Hi. You see what happened there? Yeah, we know who's fault it was. This is what training camp is, boys. Yeah. Sometimes you got to run it from the top. Sometimes right, you see what happened there? Yeah, we know who's fault it was. This is what training camp is, boys. Yeah. Sometimes you got to run from the top. Sometimes you got to get back in there. Sometimes you got to say, hey, there was a little miscommunication there.

Maybe somebody didn't get the message. But we all need to be on the same page. If we're all wrong, we're all right. But if one of us is wrong, we're all wrong. We're all wrong. Everybody's wrong. Yeah, exactly. So way to bounce back, boys.

That's getting better. That's what today's all about, getting better. And that's what training camps are doing all around the NFL. And today, we'll be talking to a general manager who's at a training camp for a team that everybody's thinking is going to make a Super Bowl run. Brandon Bean of the Buffalo Bills will join us in about an hour, in 15 minutes. I cannot wait to chat with him. There's obviously a lot of conversations around the Buffalo Bills

that we will certainly be having. I think all good coming out of camp. Haven't heard much, but I think all good. That's good news. Stephon Diggs smiling in a picture I seen posted on social media. That's right. I got a little bit of a discussion there for a bit. He was the only one showing up to camp.

And it's like, Josh, pumped. Yeah. Holy shit. Von Miller is back. Smiling. Happy. Tamar Hamlin, obviously. Super pumped.

And then the next photo, dressed incredibly. Of course. Super cool outfit. But he seemed to be focused. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. He wasn't too happy.

So maybe he was just focused, and they caught him at a different time. But I think it's all going to be good because what they do up there is play good football. They've been so close. Everybody thinks they're going to get over the hump every single year for the last five years. And then all of a sudden, is this going to be the year that it does? Is this going to be the year where Josh Allen says, yeah, I am the prototype. This is the offense that you all want. I'm not going to have any turnovers this year. No.

That'll be huge. No picks. I fucking love watching the Buffalo Beals. Can't wait to chat with Brandon Bean. He will be a good conversation. We'll also have Michael Lombardi on joining us. Hell yeah. Lomba's got a lot to cook on, especially in this time of trade signs, pots, waving, roster management. He's obviously been

a general manager and a host. He's an author, a newsletter writer. He's been an advisor to Bill Belichick. A consultant to Bill Belichick. Three-time Super Bowl champion. And very Italian man.

Wildly Italian. Just like us. Just like me, for sure you what half of the hammer cowboys turn digs is here the toxic table is here at ty schmid who looks fantastic with that john deere cap we had a john deere sitting in the parking lot today oh yeah not great i don't know if you saw that zito brought his john deere right on in and drove it to work today it's a beautiful thing i think that might have been why you have the hat on absolutely just saw it. Just a nice little reminder.

It's like, you know what? I haven't worn my deer hat in a little bit, and it was one of the happiest mornings of my life seeing Zeke Park in his beautiful, beautiful John Deere tracker in his normal parking spot. Now, Zito, what was the case there? That John Deere didn't have anywhere near the fucking ponies needed. They didn't want the job needed outside.

It was a little lower. It was the S100. They needed the S400 up out there. you know. It was a little lower. It was the S100. They need the S400 up out there. Yeah, it's a lawnmower. It's not meant to fucking tow anything other than maybe, you know, a little skid steer if you want to shoot some, you know, Scott's Turf Builder Plus onto your yard or, you know, something like that. I mean, that thing's not meant to.

They also told me they were worried about the barricades getting messed up because too much horsepower. That's at Viva Lozito. That did not happen, but the John Deere was brought here by Zito to work today because we thought there was a chance. They did not approve it, but we thought there was a chance that it could be able to help set up this racetrack that's being built in our parking lot currently. So, Tony Smokester, three-time NASCAR Cup Series champion, will be here pining for NHRA, which is the drag strip racing happening here in Indy

in a few weeks or whatever. This guy races anything. So we have a go-kart company, a local one that we found that's bringing four go-karts that go 55 to 60 miles an hour. Indiana does not fuck it. This is a big racing town.

So in Pittsburgh, you go do bumper cars or things like that. And you do maybe go-karts and it's like 15 miles an hour, 20 miles an hour, whatever. I came out here to Indiana. These kids are actually professional racing against other kids. So the go-karts are going 45, 50, 60 miles an hour. Whenever you're going to like a public racing other people.

And there's full courses and tracks. So these people, we got a hold of. Zito got a hold of them. And we're turning the entire parking lot into a track. And we're going to race Tiny Smoke Stewart and some go-karts to go 50 by 60 miles an hour. Hell yeah. And that's no shoot.

I mean, we got a quick glimpse. Yeah. A couple of guys setting up tracks. It looked like they were going about 85. Yeah, they were drifting around the corner. I mean, we have a real race that we're about to. Obviously, we're going to record it, and we'll release the video, and we're pumped for it.

But anytime somebody comes to our office, we're like, will they do something? And normally it's a yes. And Tiny Smoke Stewart's coming, will he do something? Yeah. Got to race him. Got to race him. All right, what do we do?

We should build track. Yeah, we absolutely should. Got to find go-karts. We're going to go to the one public company and just say, hey, can we take five of these things out of here? And then we got like our own private go-kart builder. I assume this guy's kids all race or have raced. These things are the real deal.

So that should be awesome. Now, what I do know is I'm 255 pounds. I don't know how much smoke weighs. Smoke might be there. Watch your mouth. I'm going to tell him you said that. He is 5'9". That's obviously at Boston Connor and at Boston Connor's ball.

It looks amazing. He's not 250. He's probably 220. He is 5'9". He's a stockier guy. Obviously ready for whatever he needs. But he's not going to be the only one racing. There's going to be another person racing. It's the first time we've seen him in weeks. His energy has been missed in my life and our life. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us again for what seems to be the first time in a long time,

Adam Pacman. Yeah. But Pac's going to be racing. This dude ran a 4.51 the other day. Yeah. He's 170 pounds right now. How much you weigh? I'm about 180.

Okay. 180 pounds. I got 75 pounds right now. How much you weigh? I'm about 180. Okay, 180 pounds. I got 75 pounds on him. Yeah. Okay, so these go-karts, you're going to have to tune them all up. Yeah, amp it up. Get some awesome. Yeah, handicapping. You know what I mean? This is kind of what you have to do. Because I have faith he's going to do well in this.

I've seen him in our little miniature carts out here. Right. He's a good driver. I think you're going to do well. We have to not get embarrassed by Smoke Gear. Yeah. He's going to, though. He's a good driver. I think you're going to do well. We have to not get embarrassed by Smoke here. Yeah. He's going to, though. Oh, yeah. He's going to fucking smoke us.

We got to be careful. Exactly. We got to be careful because I seen this little fucker right here driving earlier. He was flying. Yeah, there was a kid out there. And I was a little nervous that he didn't have a helmet on. Well, they actually told us that he was in a race last night in New Jersey and he flipped his car. Yeah, he did.

So, good thing he's in our parking lot today trying to do the same thing. But we must win, though. We'll win. I don't think we're going to win because these drivers are like the apex of the turn, and they know how to do things. They are much smarter than we are. And once again, I only learned that when I went to that. I think Nick was even with me one of the times I went to this thing.

Go-karts out here are much different than in Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah. It's no joke. You could get seriously hurt. And there's nine-year-olds sitting in these same karts as you that are going 55, 6 miles an hour, and they're just such better and smarter drivers than you. They are just— They make it look so easy because they are so good.

Then you try it. You ran your ass into a wall. You get whiplash, maybe break your collarbone, something like that. Yeah, and you're showing up maybe a little tuned up too. Somebody else is driving, obviously. And it's like, hey, you go do some go-karts. These are fun. You go do that.

These kids are studying the track. So they know when to turn, when not to turn. They have done their research. And then they just embarrass you. Smoke will do that to us. But we can't be getting lapped in a five-lap race in a parking lot. Definitely not. You know what I'm saying?

That's what I'm saying, Pac. I can't happen. I agree, but we know our course, I hope. See, that's the problem. It builds more. Yeah, we just nailed it. And Smoke's going to have eyes on this thing. Oh, yeah.

And he's going to be, oh, this is just like fucking Sonoma. This is just like Sonoma right here. He probably knows this. I would assume that he will know the go-kart that he's never been in 4,000 times better than we will. Absolutely. You know what I mean? These people, they get their kids in these.

They're racing real young and commit their entire lives to it. It is bananas. I think F1 was like the dream of a lot of these kids. And then now NASCAR ended up being in that place where it was like, here's where all the money is. Because Smoke from Indiana was in IndyCar, was an IndyCar series champion. Yeah, 97.

And then he went over to NASCAR. I think it's because that's where the money was at. So I think the racing game is such an interesting thing. So this would be like us going and playing Little League football, going and playing some football. You playing, yeah. This would be like me. Like you kicking a punt to a...

Yes, it would be. God, could you imagine the depression of the soul that would come down on an eight-year-old kid? That's what he's going to be doing to us. Yep, that's what he's going to be doing. Anyways, shout out to Smoke. We'll be doing that later. Shout out to Zito for kind of piecing that together

with old buddy that brought a truck and four people that are certainly whizzing around our parking lot at this exact moment, 556 Mountain Hour. Hope they have insurance. Probably don't. That'll be the next cancellation. But speaking of cancellations, I have an announcement to make. Something has not been canceled.

And that's my wife and I's marriage. Let's go. Three years. Today. Happy anniversary. Congratulations. Hell yeah. I'm pretty pumped about that grew up never wanting to get married

never wanted to have kids was planning on being a lone miserable man but wealthy was always planning on that whole thing I always said would like to be set for the rest of my life before I have a kid because I don't want my kid to have any worries about anything ever so I always said that so I always just assumed that would be a thing that would just you know push it well I made a deal with myself sorry about it you

know and then every single relationship I got into incredible humans through my entire life I've been very very lucky to be surrounded it was always like yeah I don yeah, I don't know. I just, I've always been like a kind of a gypsy. Yeah. Yeah. I think people see that now. Like I'm done. So then whenever I meet Samantha and I start to realize that it feels like this is potentially a different situation.

It was really an eyeopening, enlightening thing. And whenever the decision was made, you know, in her eyes, finally, right. There was a lot of that. You know what I mean? A lot of trips were going on for a long time where I guess she was expecting it to happen. And there was one particular time where

I might have fed that a little bit. Drop down, tie your shoe. No, no, no. Bring out like three dozen roses. You know what I mean? I never went to the knee because that's fucked up. You know what I mean? I think that is. But having the most romantic dinner in the history of probably that particular hotel, you know, kind of in my eyes, hilarious.

Well, that was good, wasn't it? Well, it was. Look at Hero. I got to tell you something. The candles, the view, the food. And then obviously she has to act as if she's thankful and happy there. Right. But she certainly thought that we were getting engaged at that exact moment.

And she still tells that story to this day where she thought about breaking up with me, I think, the next day because that whole thing. And if she would have done that after the most romantic dinner of all time, I would have loved to hear what I would have had to say. Yeah. You know what I mean? That entire thing. But when the time was right for us to engage in Hawaii and and then we get married, and then we start doing marriage, it was like I have no idea how I ever thought I was going to be able to live without this.

I have no idea. I feel like I get, I feel like I get, I become a much better human because Samantha is in my life. She has opened my eyes to a lot of things. She's a much different person than i am uh with different backgrounds and different interests obviously and she loves uh football coats football so that's good you know that's a good thing but then i realized how much we have in common because we have this appreciation for each other and i think that is what a true marriage is. I think that is what

a great relationship is. And we're three years into this, and I'm very, very grateful. And happy anniversary, Sam. Watching you be a mom over the last three months of this past year has been awesome. And what you spent the last year doing so that we could be parents has been remarkable.

So thank you. Happy anniversary. Here's to forever, babe. Here's to forever, here's to forever babe marriage ain't easy though man no no no it is not it's part of it though yeah and i couldn't even imagine dealing with fucking me you know what i mean like i couldn't even i it's hard for me to take anything serious so like whenever there's something going on it's like is this that big are we dying like that's how i on, it's like, is this that big? Are we dying? Like that's how I view everything almost. So like for somebody who has like

you know, feelings and like, you know, real like thoughts. Yeah, emotions. Dude, I couldn't even imagine her brain whenever some of the things have happened and I'm like, who cares? And it like just moves. So I appreciate your patience with me. I appreciate you making me a better human,

and I appreciate that we're still married three years into this thing. Hey, there you go. Here's to you, Sam. Hell yeah. She's going to be in one of these go-karts today. Oh, nice. Yeah, she's going to come up here and hop in one of these. She's a psychopath when she's driving.

Against smoke? I honestly, like, yeah. I mean, we might as well. I mean, she, so her dad, big IndyCar fan. So she's been going to IndyCar races like her whole life. So she thinks by osmosis from watching it, she gets it. She knows, yeah. Like my first couple times in the car with her.

Now that she has McKenzie, she drives. A little different. Much different. Yeah. And I don't know how she's driving alone. You know what I mean? I don't know what it's like when she's alone. But she's psychopath behind the wheel.

She thinks that she fucking, because she watched so many races, she has actually driven those races. So I think today she's going to put on a show. Here we go. I think she's a good coach because she's smaller too. So like all these drivers are like jockeys, horse jockeys. They're like kind of smaller, you know? Newgarden won the Indy 500.

He's tall, but he's like super light, thin. Like you've got to be weight matters, size matters. And I think she could have been a good one. We'll find out today. I mean, we'll find out light. You've got to be... Weight matters. Size matters. I think she could have been a girl. We'll find out today. We'll find out today. Happy anniversary, Sam. We'll find out today. Didn't we? This is for Sam. Happy anniversary.

Hey, look at us. Happy anniversary. Get a couple of hot laps in. Spend the day out there. Enjoy it. Let's talk about some sports now that we got Pac-Man here. Pac-Man, you and Ryan Clark during the break. I've seen this because we were – hope you had an incredible break, by the way. Yeah, I did.

We missed you. Had an unbelievable break. We missed you. Where'd you go? Missed you, too. Took the boys out to Lake Norman. We stayed up there for about eight days. The boys means the whole house.

The whole crew. The crew. 17 deep. 17 steep. That's an easy thing to prepare for. That's whole crew. 17 deep. 17 steep. That's an easy thing to prepare for. A 17 person trip. I think that's easy. Easy to find lodging for that as well. Very affordable.

Very, very affordable. Easy to do. I understand that. So thank you for your effort for all that and changing people's lives. Speaking of changing people's lives, how about Junior? Yeah. Ohio State. Chris Henry Jr. commits to Ohio State during our break. He's the 6'6", 200. 80.

I mean, 95 pound. 195. 195. 6'6", 195, running a 4-4 sophomore year. Wide receiver from what high school? Withrell High School. Withrell High School in Ohio. Going to Ohio State this weekend.

Obviously, Chris Henry is his father. Chris Henry passed away. Adam Pacman Jones stepped in as a pseudo father. I think you and his relationship is beautiful. You and everybody in your house's relationship is beautiful. There's 10 D1 athletes in this house. It's unreal. 10 D1 athletes.

That's a lot of commitment by a lot of people, yourself included. How happy are you for Junior? He's getting to experience this right now. Oh, man, unbelievable experience for him. Words cannot express how happy I am for him. But the main thing I'm so proud of him about is through all this experience and all this stuff that's going on, he's been the most humbleest kid. Like, he haven't changed a bit.

Slim was like that too, wasn't he? Yeah, he's still taking out the trash. You know what I mean? He's still doing the little things. And I think that goes a long way, more than the football stuff. Because the football stuff, he's a freak of nature. So obviously Slim has not been able to be with him through these years and this entire thing.

We all know the very unfortunate accident that took place. He was your best friend. So you stepping up, incredibly cool. Do you see a lot of? Spitting image. Isn't it crazy too? It's crazy. Because he doesn't really know.

Like, you know, it's just like crazy too because he doesn't really know like you know it's just like kind of like he didn't really get to know he's seen highlights yeah he really he don't he don't he know but he don't know i should put it like that but like for anybody that met slim if you see chris it is like that yeah that's that's him yeah like they look everything is identical um even the way they run, they talk, body language. His attitude is a lot more better than Slim. But as far as competing and being competitive on the field and outside of the field with his schoolwork and all that,

he's doing an unbelievable job. All of them, man. Saini already signed her scholarship. She's going to Ohio State, which is his oldest sister. So it's good, man. They work hard, too. Hell, yeah. Congrats to the whole house.

Yes. Lucky to get a chance to chat with him every once in a while, FaceTime with Pac, and then just kind of show the camera. He's like, oh, that's a, oh, yeah, probably going to be sprinter for whatever national champion team. Everyone's working out. Who's that? That'll be the number one.

Yeah, that's the next Marmur Harrison Jr. Yeah. Yeah. Just happened to be Coach Henry Jr. Yeah, he's just saying it over there. Just did a windmill dunk be the number one. Yeah, that's the next Marmur Wilson Jr. Yeah. Just happened to be Coach Henry Jr. Yeah, he's just saying it over there. Just did a windmill dunk in Uggs. Yeah. It's fucking awesome.

Hey, it's going to be a great story someday about all of it. It already is a great story. Shout out to you. Great to see you back. Let's start diving into some stuff. DeMar Hamlin, Yinzer, dog, friend of ours. I believe if anybody met him, he would hopefully take to this entire group because he seems to be a human that obviously is inspiring and motivating. A man who presented an award to the Buffalo Bills training staff for saving his life on TV at the ESPYs.

And it was a magical moment. But also, I think he understands very much the situation he is in. I think he is very humble about the entire situation that he is in. I think his self-awareness is impeccable. And how he's choosing to kind of treat everything that has happened to him has been nothing short of admirable. Here's him

talking to the press after his first day back in pads, where he's been fully cleared to play football again somehow after we saw what happened on Monday Night Football less than a year ago. I honestly would love to do this whole process under a rock, get myself together, and then pop back out when I feel like my best. You know what I mean?

But I think there's strength in going through a process in front of everybody's eyes. It shows vulnerability. It shows strength. It shows perseverance. And that's things I would love to stand for. Hell yeah. I love everything about it. I like the way he's answered it he could be really shy but i remember

there was a time whenever he came back that none of us thought he was going to be able to come back but when he came back he was away from the cameras right and then he was up in the snowstorm and then there was conspiracy theories on the internet and crazy stuff taking place he had to kind of sit back there and listen to all that while also trying to get his body back to being full and capable and hopefully playing football again. Now he's at that point. Seems like just the perfect reaction to the whole situation.

We'll talk to Bean about it, obviously, in about an hour. But Pac-Man, love seeing this out of the mire, man. Man, love seeing it. I remember when he first started going back in public, I had a chance to talk to him. I had him meet me in Vegas. And he didn't want to be around nobody, I had a chance to talk to him. I had him meet me in Vegas. And he didn't want to be around nobody. He didn't want to talk to nobody.

I'm like, yo, bro, you got to use this time and this platform to motivate other people that maybe been through this or had somebody go through it. And it's just good to see him in a place like that right now. The football stuff is going to come. He's a good football player. You know, it takes time to get back into the group. I didn't hear much about his football.

What are they saying about him on the field? Are they saying? I mean, you saw it. He's also playing with Tredavious White, Employer, and Micah Hyde. So it's a great situation. I saw him at ESPYS. I said, how do you feel? He said, everything's coming.

Everything's coming. That's bananas. Huge. Yeah. Crazy. I almost spent more time at the ESPYS talking about it. You know, what I said Skip Bayless said on his tweet were jokes. Obviously, he did kind of.

He did tweet. It wasn't the way I said it, but obviously, it's jokes in that entire thing. And shout out to Tom Segura. Tom Segura was the only human that I got a chance to kind of run through what I was going to talk about with. And there were some things that Tom Segura wanted me to. Stay away from. Yeah, I just had to. There were some things that i that tom square wanted me to stay away yeah i just had to there were some things that tom wanted me to really didn't this happen in a lot of here in sports i don't think i could say this i'm not a sports guy but you could there

was a potential trade that he wanted to bring up you know what happened there was some other stuff rogers but he helped me out you know like ran through it, and then he would be like, oh, it didn't, boom. And then it was very, it was awesome. I mean, getting a chance to do that with one of the greatest comedic brains of all time is obviously very stupid and lucky, and I'm very thankful he did that.

And I also asked him if I'm allowed to give him credit because I don't want him to get, so no, I couldn't really talk to him because the writers, right? So like Tom was really the only person that I could talk to. I said, can I give you credit for that? He goes, but it was all you, but yes, or something like that. Super humble.

But that's not the case, obviously. And I go, aren't you scared there's going to be people that are going to be pissed off at you? He goes, fuck them. What are you? Yep. Right? We wrote our own stuff.

Like basically how he viewed it was like we wrote our own stuff. There's people calling me a scab. Oh, we wrote our own stuff. Like, basically how he viewed it was like, we wrote our own stuff. Like, if they need, there's people calling me a scab. Oh, yeah, I saw that. People call me a scab. Like, I'm a professional writer or a professional actor or something like that. Like, what are we talking about?

I work for ESPN. It's their award show. What? I talk into microphones for them. What? Okay, I got a 10-minute time talking to a microphone for ESPN. Like, that's what I'm still gonna start doing

Kind of a natural introduction Yeah, people call me a scab and all this stuff I'm like, whoa, whoa, take it easy So Tom, shout out to Tom Skor, by the way And his new special on Netflix is 1000% worth watching So it is fantastic But what we said there about Skip

Kind of real, but that was what happened He was He was fucking dead in front of all of us. I mean, the whole world. In the ratings, I don't know what they were, and obviously we're, as humans, a terrible group of people. Yes. Absolutely terrible.

We see that now with what they're funneling into our algorithms with the worst accidents and worse everything happening. Oh, I want to see a train crash. I want to see this. I want to see a train crash. I want to see this. I want to see bad stuff. Bad stuff happen. I'd assume the ratings were only going through the roof. So what a standard Monday Night Football in the NFL,

which remembers the NFL ratings are the only ones going up. Everybody else is going down. So a lot of people. But that's only growing. And then news the next day. NBC morning show, CBS morning show. Everybody on earth saw the footage of this guy dead. And now he's back in pads, ready to do it.

Like, shout out to everybody. His will to live, obviously in there. Yinzer too. Not saying that it is because he is a Yinzer. But he is a Yinzer. So fuck yeah, will to live. The reaction by Denny Erickson, or Kellington, Denny Kellington, the trainer to execute in there,

the EMTs, the fucking doctors, and now the post story is going to be even more inspiring than we could have imagined whenever we were all taking part through this whole ride of DeMar Hamlin. It's really, and it sucks because there was a time where he was not alive. We didn't know if he was going to die.

But this is like one of the most beautiful things of, I said, all time. And people are saying that this is one of the most inspiring things in human history or whatever. It's like, bro, you know how many people had to come together to save this guy's life? And how many people were watching it with the spotlight on and having to do it? Like, bro, this is fucking unbelievable. And I'm incredibly proud for DeMario. You guys talk about it all the time, too, how hard it is to come back just from a knee injury and trust your knee again.

Imagine how hard it is to come back and just go on the field and put pads on with potentially that in the back of your head of what just happened to you the last time on your field. You were on the field. Yeah, football as a whole. That's insane. Because that was just basic. Going into the middle.

Run of the mill. At one point, there was not they. Sorry. There was one person that had a microphone. Who was the guy? T. Higgins. Was it T. Higgins? Yeah, T. Higgins.

Remember that happened? That happened for like a... It was almost... The comment probably, what, 15, 20 seconds. Yeah. And then the internet for like 20 30 minutes yeah and then everybody was like get the fuck out yeah that was a cool moment for the internet i think whenever they tried to talk about that because

that was literally the most basic play of an nfl football game and i think it opened a lot of other people's eyes too obviously yeah it's definitely the community to let us know, like, how good Cincinnati, the doctors at UC, where he went to after they got him back on, everybody worked together, even the team. Like, no way we can go back out and play that game. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And some of the fans were like, oh, we got to play the game.

The same guy who goes on to talk about we need to go on with the game. Bro, we are way more important than the game. We know the game is going to go on time and time after us. Humans matter, bro. Humans matter. But I think to your point on all of that, there had to be some players definitely on that field

but certainly around the NFL that didn't know that that was possible. Yeah, sure. What they said, I didn't know that was possible. I heard of this. We had Mr. Jack as a gym teacher in elementary school. Yeah, we did. Yeah, Holiday Park Elementary School.

They shut that fucking thing down. It's actually for sale right now. I'm thinking about buying it. Ooh, that'd be sweet. I'm thinking about buying it just strictly because of what happened to me at that elementary school. Good riddance. The hell I raised.

Your fucking school wasn't there either and that school was the worst. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. Cigarette man. Mr. Jack, anyways,

Mr. Jim T, you flipped that into some luxury apartments? I'm not turning our elementary school. Okay, I'd be buying back the block to keep it.

You know, what's good as opposed to doing what you're doing. Mr. Jack, I had a kid who, I think he wanted to play junior B hockey

or something like that in high school up in Michigan and Mr. Jack missed like kid who I think he wanted to play junior B hockey or something like that in high school up in Michigan. Mr. Jack missed a week or two of school. I think I was like sixth grade. I asked him or he said, sorry, I missed it. He gave, I guess, a super detailed that happens in hockey, I guess. Slapshot

hits somebody at the exact moment of something and then bang, their heart stops and it's over right there. It's like a one in whatever chances are. If the timing, though, with an impactful force at the right time, at the right spot, it can happen. Happened to, like, I think Mr. Jack's kids' team

whenever I was in elementary school. And I don't remember a lot from then, but that one I remember like, oh, fuck, somebody can die. You just hit them in the chest. That tackle wasn't like that no wasn't a big hit it wasn't like puck like a tiny little puck wasn't a tiny little like lacrosse ball it wasn't something that's like jabbing or like break it was just a standard tackle i'm like i did not know that was possible and i assume other guys around the nfl were like so when i

signed up to play this could potentially happen i guess that was where the that has to be a little mental fuckery for some people. Well, and that's why him coming back, I feel like, is such a big deal. Because not only the guys on his team are like, okay, this can happen. And we have, first of all, Denny, like you mentioned, the staff that can control. Legends, by the way. Has to be talked about. A lot of people are trained to do stuff.

Yeah. But then whenever, you know, lights come on. Yeah, in the moment, can you execute what you were told when this person actually did? With people around watching. That's a lot different than at the airport. 100,000 people watching.

I'm certified. Yeah. At the airport. Me too. Fake body on the side telling me to do it. But if it actually push came to shove, am I pulling that off with the whole world? You know, that is. So we learned that about those.

So, like, they should be congratulated because not everybody's going to do that. It is just. But I think what you're going to get to is the future of football, too. Like kids, you know, parents that saw that happening, potentially. Yeah. You know, like, football obviously had that stigma heavy there about, like, if you respect your brain at all, you would all play tackle football. Yeah.

You know, Dr. Will Smith made a movie, and then everybody thought. There was a war on football. Yes, that's what it was titled. War on football. Trying to take out football, the future of football. Now, I argued that, like, you think Tim and Sally would give a fuck? Right? Like, there's neighborhoods around the country that are creating NFL football players. Yes.

That you could show them all these war on football stats, the motherfucker's still playing football. That's right. So, like, I didn't think the NFL was ever in jeopardy. Like, I didn't ever think, like, yeah, the guys that I hang out with and know from the NFL, if Dr. Will Smith and these other stats were told their school or their family, they're still playing football. Like, kids of NFL players are all still playing football.

So I never thought the NFL was in jeopardy, but I did think the popularity of the sport was definitely in jeopardy because it was something that they're making a lot of vital points. It's like, yeah, I guess you are signing up for this. You think about this with boxing because we all saw it with Muhammad Ali and many others. Yeah, that's what you sign up for with boxing. I don't think people viewed football the same way.

It was like, you get to play in the NFL, you get to play in the NFL. So I think there was a lot of exposure to potential happenings of, you know, bodies breaking down, brains breaking down after repeated beatings that happened in a football game. So this type of stuff showing up and adding more excuses for parents to keep their families and kids away from football, I don't think is good because people will potentially do that but demar's back yep on the field you know it's like

i this is a fucking beautiful thing and we should celebrate it every chance we get and shout out to demar man hey yeah way to go demar keep going way to go demar i'm excited to see how he plays yeah well that's the thing. It wasn't hyperbole, you saying him. They were doing chest compressions for like 15 minutes, and we've all watched a lot of football and sports in general. I mean, yeah, every once in a while, maybe a guy breaks his neck or has a spinal thing, but he's always getting taken off,

and most of the time they're giving the thumbs up. With this, it was like you see the guys crying on the field. It's like, no, he's dead. And then even the next day, like we had his buddy on the show. Jordan. He's still with him, by the way. Yeah. Jordan took it on the shins.

Big time. Yeah, this guy's just trying to grab fame or do whatever, get his own business up and running. But, like, he was still in a coma for, like, multiple days. Like, we did the show, like, the following week, and we were all saying, like, you almost don't even want to talk about anything. It's like, we don't know if this guy's going to survive.

Legitimately do not know if he's going to survive. I remember us saying that we have to remember what it was actually like in the moment. Because I think we were all talking about the game makeup and everything like that, and how this has never been done before in the NFL, and even during COVID years whenever there's things like this is an anomaly of a situation with what they're going to do and I think what

I remember us saying, I'm not so sure, but I think we said like, hey, we have to remember that this is nothing like anything else we've ever experienced. Like people are going to forget what we felt in the moment and the day after and I think that is probably already started happening for some people because they see

DeMar all the way back. But at one point, numerous points during that week, there was zero hope that this dude was alive. Because we all started Googling stuff. I'm not a fucking doctor. I started Googling, how much time can you not have air go to your brain? That was the main thing.

How is this guy? He's not alive right now. He's been in this company for how long? It was nervous. That was the main thing. How is this guy? I thought he was brain dead. He's not alive right now. He's been in this company for how long? It was nervous. It was scary. I agree. Like, I don't think – it's going to be hard to explain, I think, because he's seemingly going to come back and play fucking great football

and be all the way back. And they'll be like, hey, remember what DeMar Hamlin went through? And it's like, I feel like we should remember. Like, hey, dude was dead. Like, everybody thought this guy was dead. And now he's all the way back. That can't be forgotten how crazy

of a situation and of a scene that was. I'll never, I don't think I'll ever forget at home watching that game as it's unfolding, just going through it. And my wife, who watches football with me, obviously, because I don't think she loves watching that game as it's unfolding, just going through it. My wife, who watches football with me, obviously, because I don't think she loves watching every game, but that particular game, huge game.

Very invested. Gambling on it, betting on it. The whole thing. Normally, she'll pass out. She's more of a morning person, fall asleep early. That one, nobody could sleep. None of us could sleep after that entire game. That's what was scary, too. Joe and Troy didn't really know what to do or they were getting conflicting reports and didn't really have any of the information.

So it's like you're expecting these guys calling the game. Well, they know someone there. Someone knows something, and they're going to be able to kind of clue the public in on what's going on, but they had no idea. It was just like say a prayer and hope for the best. That's really all we can tell you. Hey, I thought Joe did a good job there. I don't remember exactly what he was saying or how he did it, but that is not.

Oh, yeah. That is. They went and came back from commercial a couple of times. A couple of times. Yeah. Yeah. Then they went back to the studio because I believe it was Shefty. Hey, that's where a guy like Joe Buck is your guy.

Being your guy is, you know, that's why you. Game changer. That's why he's getting paid the big bucks. That's why, you know, been's why you. Game changer. Why he's getting paid the big bucks. That's why, you know, been there, done that, with literally every experience. That's not something he's ever experienced before. No. But at least you got a guy who's, and we're talking about Denny.

I mean, you know, Joe can spill shit into that situation. Right. That doesn't have to happen either. Oh, yeah. Everything he's saying has to be like very – has to watch it because what we're all watching is our biggest nightmare. And he didn't sign up to call people's nightmares. No.

You know what I mean? It was kind of through that ESPYs experience watching back and kind of reliving it and then now seeing him jog out of the tunnel and sign autographs and do his press conference and practice. It's like what a miraculous like, what a miraculous story. What a miraculous being. And I can't wait to chat with Bane here in about 40 minutes to see how it's all taking place behind the scenes. I assume he has an incredibly different view on life.

Not that Tamar Hamlin wasn't a grateful human being before. From all accounts, everybody fucking loved this dude everywhere he's ever been. Everybody loves him. But going through something like that, man, it changed changed me yeah absolutely she changed me completely and i'm happy he seems to be the right guy to be the one that is like kind of sharing the story and inspiration for years and decades to come yeah and to that point with the inspiration like how big is this for the buffalo bills too like obviously it's just incredible on its own but like as a team to see your guy come back how big is that think about the buffalo bills year last year yeah off the board so many things

ridiculous oh that's got to be they can't make excuses obviously no but they had a lot that's a lot though you're getting hurt then you have that happen going into the playoffs shooting before the season started yeah at the grocery store. Game in Detroit, they had to leave because of the snow. Yeah. Dawson Knox's brother, yeah, passed away before the season started. I mean, it was just like they had to think to themselves, like, what the hell we got going on?

They were still in position to be the number one seed. It's absurd that they were even doing that. Hey, good football team. Yeah, that's right. Good football team up there. Strong football team up there. Can't wait to talk to Bean. Bryce Young, okay, is being talked about because he's been announced the starter for the Carolina Panthers.

Now, everybody knew the number one overall pick is probably going to be the starter for a team that traded all the way up to number one to get a quarterback. What? But there is Andy Dalton on the roster who has started games before and could be a very easy situation to put the veteran in for like three four games hey here's kind of how this whole thing goes kind of ease your way into it as the number one overall guy everybody knows you're the guy andy dalton's not the franchise guy everybody in this stadium in his locker room in the coaching staff knows that you're the guy they announce him as a starter they say everything he's doing is remarkable yeah and i guess coming into the league i talked talked to Chris Ballard

because I asked him about the quarterback situation because we knew that the Colts were drafting the quarterback at four. Were they going to trade up? Were they going to move? What was it going to be? He said that he knew Bryce Young was going. Everybody knew his brain was just special. His brain is special. In every other

draft kind of going into it, you're always trying to figure out the person's brain. Is this person going to be able to handle money? Pressure? NFL offenses? NFL defenses? NFL locker rooms? And also the fame in the talking that is going to come alongside all of it.

It is not necessarily a home run with every fucker that can throw a football becoming an NFL quarterback. So whenever they talk about Bryce Young's brain coming in, that was what separated him from everybody. Remember Lombardi? Michael Lombardi, who will be joining us today, who has been around the NFL for like 50 fucking years. He said that he was

not in on Bryce Young. He's too small! I mean, seriously! Was he? Alabama, he's too small! That's literally what he said. And then he said he started watching film. Wait a minute, this little motherfucker's really he's seemingly figuring this whole thing out. Michael Lombardi

makes a couple calls to a couple teams that have maybe talked to Bryce Young, maybe talked to Nick Saban, and he's like, the guy's a fucking brainiac, knows football inside and out, highest football IQ we've ever been around in our entire life. And he starts watching films like the film, kind of saying that. I mean, seriously. The film is kind of saying what you guys are saying. Oh this dude's like different different yeah yeah yeah he's small though yeah

who gives a fuck the guy is drew brees had success right right has there been one before yeah this guy will be another one it's kind of what everybody starts saying chris ballard kind of echoed that sentiment when i was talking to him he said bryce wasn't going to be available so didn't even have to talk but he was clearly both his brain and acumen and everything he had going on he was going to be the number one guy coming out of camp it sounds like this guy is the fucking guy yes listen to what teammate of his said about Bryce Young rookie in the NFL uh with the Carolina Panthers in the offense as a whole uh you know the guy he's got a lot of leadership a lot of talent um a very intelligent man I mean he came in he learned the offense I mean he was giving presentations the other day for protection.

That says a lot about a rookie. I wasn't doing it as a rookie. I was still struggling with the playbook. He came in and mastered it and just continued to put it out on the field and show that. Bradley Bozeman said, I mean, god damn, the guy's giving us presentations. He's a rookie. He just got in the building. Has never played NFL football before,

which is different than SEC football. SEC football, great football. Let's not get crazy. NFL football, though, you got a lot of time. You got defense coordinators making millions and millions of dollars with a lot of time and a lot of guys studying film and a lot of time, and he's just figuring it out. What a weapon. You think they're going to be great this year?

Good this year? I don't know how good they're going to be, but from what I've seen, all right, Andy is a good quarterback, but Andy, if he's smart, like everybody else said, there's no reason to start Andy. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Because he can make all of the plays. He can make all of the throws. He can use his feet.

Can he pick up the defense? Can he see the highs? It was our question. Is he big enough? That was the main question. The big thing is really the big thing. Yeah. You know, like his – because it's all fun.

It sounds great. He's the number one pick overall, though. He's got to play. He's going to have to play. Of course he's going to have to play. But do you think they're going to end up being good with him playing? Because remember, they won games. Oh, yeah.

Right now, different coach. Different coaching staff. Right. Different operation. They somehow get rid of their best player, Christian McCaffrey. They get rid of, at the time, Robbie. Yep. That's right.

Now chosen. Yep. Anderson. They get rid of him. So you're, like, thinking this team is trying to dump it, at the time, Robbie. Yep. That's right. Now chosen. Yep. Anderson. They get rid of him. So you're like thinking this team's trying to dump it, dump it, dump it. And then it's like, nah, still pretty good football team. Fans, very good fan base. Now if they have something to go root for, cheer for,

and the future looks bright, good for the fucking band. He's obviously got the brain. My favorite thing, though, to watch him is like when it's not there and when the play breaks down. It feels like his sense in the pocket is unbelievable. I think that helps him with his size because he rarely ever gets hit hard because it feels like

he knows exactly where everyone's coming from all the time and is able to avoid and make plays. That's my favorite part about his game that I've seen. We put this out on the Instagram, obviously watching him go deep. Ball's under thrown. Ball's under thrown. It's like, that ball's under thrown, that ball's under thrown. It's like, look where the corner is. Yeah, not really.

Look where the corner is, and look what would have been catchable anywhere else. Yes. Yeah, I don't. Nobody else can catch that ball. Yeah, that is the receiver's ball. Yeah, like. Sideline. I was reading those comments, and there's some other commenters that were telling these people,

like, you are just displaying right now that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about with your comment. No, under thrown, too small. it's like nope nope actually complete opposite that ball was a dot that is a perfect ball for the game and it was kind of coming in like what those old it was almost like that mortar throw that he had and then you think about what the you know organization did for him they got him adam thielen that's a veteran wide receiver miles sanders yeah he's coming off his best year and that was with philly but still very very good hayden hurst josh mccown yes andy dalton what frank reich what are around him yeah okay every day all day josh mccown quarterback coach andy dalton backup quarterback fucking might as well be slash quarterback coach. And then Frank Reich, head coach, offense coordinator,

slash quarterback coach. So they've got like three quarterback coaches that have how many years? So many. And a lot of faith. A lot of faith in that group. I hope he shows up on Saturday night. Oh, for the team dinner prayer? Chapel?

Yeah. What are you talking about? You've made up that lie that started getting talked about in local media. Jelani Woods wasn't playing anymore because he didn't. I got bad news out of Colts camp. Bad news out of Colts camp. Oh, shit. It's not about Jonathan Taylor.

Oh, okay. It's about a guy that scores touchdowns every time he's on the field. Jelani Woods, 6'7", tight end of the Indianapolis Colts, supports hamstring. Come on. If you've fucking seen him, that's a big hamstring. It's a of the Indianapolis Colts, supports hamstring. Come on. If you've fucking seen him, that's a big hamstring. It's a long hamstring. That's a long hamstring.

It's big. Seven days. He's back. I don't know why we didn't play him. Inside info. Why do we not play him? I ask people whenever I was at training camp, I'm like, where's Jelani Woods?

There's got to be something we ain't seen. That's what I said. I said, why aren't we playing this guy? Three different regimes in one year. Yeah, kept him. Three different regimes in one year. Parks, Frazier, Frank. Who else was calling plays?

Is there anybody else? Did Saturday have a? I don't know. Whatever. Different regimes. Same shit. We go to the red zone. We got a 6'7 guy.

You don't. We got a 6'7 guy who can catch the ball every time he's on the field. You don't have anything that can stop that. I was eye-to-eye with that guy, standing on a four-foot lift in my fucking suite after he got a game winner against who? The Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. Oh, okay. And then all of a sudden, our team is cruising to number four overall pick,

obviously playing the most boring football of all time. And we get in the red zone, and I just see this big fuck, 6'7", jogging off the field. I'm like, what are we doing? We got Underwood. We got Mo'Ally Cox. And we got Jelani Woods at tight end. That's like 6'6", 6'7", like 6'5", or something like that.

If we can't figure it, if Shane Steichen, here we go, Shane. If you can't figure out how to get those big fucks touchdowns in the red zone I got no faith in you for the rest of your Colts coaching career I got no faith in you I think that's why I'm so optimistic about this Colts team because it felt like if there wasn't just

abysmal displays of ineptitude yes seemingly on the field we have a pretty good team yeah sure abysmal displays of ineptitude. Yes. Seemingly. Yep. On the field. We have a pretty good team.

Yeah. Sure. Well, last year you had a quarterback. We're going to beat the Bengals. I mean, they can't. We're going to beat the Steelers. What? We're going to beat the Bills. What?

We beat the Chiefs last year. Yeah. Okay. That's right. Everybody needs to look out. When Jelani Woods gets his hamstring healthy, what, seven days? Mm-hmm. Colts odds probably. You should probably bet on the Colts now. Yep. out. When Jelani Woods gets his hamstring healthy, what, seven days? Mm-hmm. Colts odds, probably.

You should probably bet on the Colts now. Yep. Okay? When Jelani Woods gets back, look how fucking big he is. You cannot stop him. What did that do? I don't know. Won the game.

Won the game against the Kansas City. Are they good? I don't know. I don't know. We're just staring at each other. They use it as their ticket sales promotion. Me and him and I staring at each other. It's a very awesome moment.

That was early in the season. Yes. Beat the Chiefs. Hot start for the Colts. Roof's open, I think. Roof's open. I think the roof is open. So that means it's still warm a little bit.

Yeah, early in the season. That still was a bad ball, though. It's Matt Ryan. I mean, no offense, Matt Ryan. You're going to be great on CBS. Yeah. He's still making $40 million from the Colts anyways. Yeah, it seems.

What'd you say? He need to be throwing that ball up here. Every time. Every time. Yeah, but you're going to be great on CBS. He's still making $40 million from the Colts anyways. Yeah, it seems. What did you say? He needs to be throwing that ball up here. Every time. Every time. Yeah, but that's how tall he is. It doesn't even have to be that high because right here is too tall for most people. Pack, you're 180 pounds right now. I mean, dude, we should be good.

Get healthy, Joy. Let's go, baby. And you said Pierce, too. You said Pierce is looking great as well. Yeah, Pierce got that deep ball from Anthony Richardson. I guess they say if it's in his area, he's catching it. That's kind of the M.O. of old Pierce around the equipment managers, trainers, and stuff like that.

He's also kind of a big son of a bitch. You know, you don't really. But, like, you go to a game and see him in person, it's like, oh, this guy's fucking big, too. So, Quentin's huge. Ryan Kelly's huge. I assume our tackles are big buckner buckner's noticeably huge jelani woods mo alley cox uh this underwood guy who's getting healthy i guess he's

i i did not see him i think he's still kind of coming back from something or maybe he was in practice i didn't see it they say he's a guy mark pitman's huge this is huge michael pitman jr is his name excuse me me. He's not Mark. I saw him getting acupuncture. He's a mark for touchdowns. I'm like, you're like me. It's Colt Strangestaff doing acupuncture. Yeah.

Is that happening in Bengals? They got everything now. That's next level. Bro, they're doing acupuncture. It's done change from when we was playing, Pat. I walked in there and I see needles in people. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Who's doing this?

Who's qualified to do this? Wearing geese. And the one guy I know is like, you're a boy. What? I'm like, when did you start? Oh, you would have really benefited from this. I'm not signing up for this, but I do appreciate that you guys are doing that. I think they're expecting a big year out of Pittman.

Big year. He's the flash. He's the flash in there. I mean, he's been good with all these shitty quarterbacks. Let's talk about some other teams. Kirk Cousins and Joe Burrow. Here we go. This isousins and Joe Burrow. Okay. Here we go. This is Boston Conner's segment.

Whoa. This is Boston Conner's segment. Thank you. Boston Conner has brought this to my attention numerous times. Have you seen the graphic? No. You haven't seen the graphic? No.

I'll send you the graphic. Sends me the graphic. I don't open it within the first 15, 20 minutes. He goes, that graphic's crazy. I'm like, haven't seen the graphic. Still, I apologize. I'll look at the graphic i don't open it within the first 15 20 minutes he goes that graphics crazy i'm like haven't seen the graphic still i apologize i'll look at the graphic he basically tells me he doesn't understand how i haven't seen the graphic how my algorithm hasn't forced it into my eyes and that the fact that i didn't look at his message to open the graphic i was disrespecting stats from the nfl as a whole he said look at the graphic so literally in front of me i have to pull

up my phone i open the graphic i look at it graphic. So literally in front of me, I have to pull out my phone, I open the graphic, I look at it, and I go, God damn. That is crazy. That is a crazy graphic. Now, we all know Kirk Cousins is the quarterback dandy from everybody, right? Everybody loves him from the show Quarterback. He's the

most relatable human, I think, to anybody that has not played football, that has ever played in the NFL and has been good in football. And I think a lot of people were wondering, how come this guy that we beloved after we got to learn a little bit more from a behind-the-scenes documentary on Netflix, why does he have this title of this guy that can't perform in a big game? And Kirk

in there was like, I think I played pretty good in this. I don't know. I think they came every single one we have. I'm sorry. I guess we don't win them. It's because primetime games, we're playing against good teams. You start looking into his stats, and I love Joe Burrow. Hey, I love Joe Burrow.

You do. This is not a knock on Joe Burrow. No. This is a, hey, this guy is known to be a fucking killer in big moments. That is what he is. He is a stone cold killer in big moments. They even have that video of him in the snow

spinning around. This is the coldest motherfucker in the league. And then Patrick Mahomes obviously is like, everybody. Let's cool it down a little bit. But this Kirk Cousins guy, oh, that's a nerd who can't win the big one. And all of a sudden you start looking at these stats. Somebody puts it on the internet. Clutch Points does, and it's like, yo, huh?

Bullshit. What? Bullshit. You think they're making up stats? Listen, are we going to really compare Joe to Kirk? That is what this weird dog is. If you own the team, which one do you want? First and foremost, Joe Burrow is better than Kirk.

Can we compare them two? We are right now. Right now. Pack, man. Break the numbers, Joe Burrow is better than Kirk. Can we compare them two? We are right now. Look at the numbers. Look at me. Look at the numbers. I saw the graphic and I didn't send it in because that would have been, you're a Steelers fan, you're biased, and I'm so glad that you sent it in because he's an unbiased third party

and Joe doesn't have it. Where Kirk them been? How many playoff games they done won? That's what we're saying. That's your proof of points. Actually, you're helping the graphic. Yes, you're helping the graphic. So what this graphic is saying, like, hey, you see that one?

28 points per game allowed? Yeah. Damn it, Kirk. Yeah. That's kind of what people are saying. People are saying, like, Kirk continues to get ragged on whenever his team potentially doesn't show up in the minimum.

Some people were saying that the Bengals defense scored a 98-yard touchdown when the Ravens were on the goal line last year in the first round of the playoffs. I didn't see that. I didn't see anybody say that. It did happen though, didn't it? Yeah, it did. It's not against Joe Burrow. No one on this stage, i won't speak for anyone else i think we all would take joe

burrow over kirk cousins i'm not saying that kirk cousins is better than joe burrow so saying i'm only doing these numbers and put that shit in the trash but hey look i didn't i didn't make the numbers i didn't write the numbers i mean pac- Pac-Man, what you see is the truth. And absolutely, Burrow steps up in big moments. It's just from this, you can clearly see Joe Burrow, and we love Lou Anarumo. Just Joe Burrow has had more help in his entire time with the Bengals. That is what this graphic is saying. Joe Burrow got killed the first year.

He had no – he had a receiver for no long. They didn't make the playoffs. They won four games. I can add a line to this? Killed the first year. He had no – he had a receiver. Yeah, he's in the playoffs. They didn't make the playoffs. I can add a line, though. Joe Burrow, line, went to a white party, got hurt after going to it. Kirk Cousins didn't go to a white party, had a fire in his back. Reuben throws great parts. There's no reason to bring that up, man. He's restricted his calf instead of going to a white party.

Oh, you don't think they're pulling muscles at that place? You are out of your damn mind. He survived that fight. He got stronger at that fight. I'm sure they were wrestling there. Kirk was reading the Bible behind the fire. What was Kirk doing? Kirk was reading the Bible behind the fire.

Training his brain. With his boy. It ain't how you start, how you finish, I guess. TB-12 brought Guerrero, and Guerrero was on his knees the whole night massaging people's calves. So I wouldn't be worried about that. I don't know if Guerrero wanted this, but I did see Joe Burrow looking super cool. He did. And that is why he is not only a killer on the field, off the field,

seemingly a dog. Yeah. He brought back the part undercut, which I had as a child, and my cowlicks kind of forced me to potentially do if I grow my hair out. So I appreciate everything. This graphic, I don't know what. So I appreciate everything this graphic. I don't know what Clutch Points was trying to say. Hey, you need to take this up with Clutch Points.

Aim your weapon. We are saying we are fans of the way this guy performs. So let's also potentially say, hey, Kirk, good job in those big games. Yeah, good work, Kirk. Good work in those big games. I think that's what people are saying. All boats rise tides. Now more games, more wins, more success. Good work. That was a big game. I think that's what people are saying. All boats rise tides. Now, more games, more wins, more success.

For sure. Than this one if we're going to go for sample sizes. Exactly. The last stat on here is startling, though. I mean, Kirk is getting absolutely no help from his defense. I mean, it's like Rodgers. You know, people shit on Rodgers all the time, say he's a choker in the playoffs.

He can't. And then you go look, and it's like the Packers are scoring 35 points a game and giving up 52 points a game. What was his QBR? 136.3. This guy can't fucking win. This guy stinks. It is such a team sport, though, and we are part of the problem. Yeah.

You know, sports media, kind of social media, just humans' natural instinct as a whole is a part of the problem and just making it superstars superstar superstar superstar this is your legacy how 52 other dudes decide to show up and perform at the same time you have to show up and perform now there is something too like you know like j Jordan, Michael. Sure. Like, they were going to play good in those big moments. They were. Because Jordan would smack them in the mouth. Yeah, exactly.

If they didn't. Like, Tom Brady's teammates. Yeah. They're going to play better. Because Tom Brady is going to give a speech before the game that says, your families are remembered. Your life is remembered. Like there's that element too that like I think this guy certainly has.

Absolutely. Certainly has. That Kirk maybe. We don't know. We know. Pack. Did you watch quarterback? Yeah, I watched quarterback.

Okay. He's the better. He is. He's got that fucking thing on him. That's also why quarterbacks are making, you know, or why Kirk's making $45 million a year is because he's not playing that bad, and then they get beat, and everyone's like, this guy fucking sucks. He's just got to take all the bullets.

Hey, that's part of the job. Exactly. That's quarterback. Well, Kirk, every contract Kirk has has been guaranteed. Oh, yeah. He's got to pay really good. Oh, that's my point. Hey, that nerd is a great businessman.

Yes, he is. He truly is a great business. Yes, he is. Great businessman. Also, great conversation. I mean, good handshake. Good dude. Good combo. He knows exactly who he is. Yes.

Pretty good singer. Was Millie Joe and Bobby Jack there? I'm about sick of you. His body gurus. Okay. Don't be making fun of them because they're 55 60 years old travel with him they're good so you did not like kirk cousins in this thing oh no i love kirk i just oh kirk with those people was holy i just he went to the yellow pages and looked up chiropractor was like well he probably did that's kirk that That's Kirk. That's Kirk, baby. Yeah, this was Nick's favorite part.

Nick's favorite part of it was him attaching his head to things while he was driving. He's getting better at every moment. Except on Tuesdays. I did not love that that was being featured on there. Like, hey, Kirk, if you want to do that, cool. But I don't think he should be giving anybody anything else to judge him on. You know what I mean? Sure. I don't think Kirk in NFL giving anybody anything else to judge him on. You know what I mean? I don't think Kirk in NFL films

did Kirk any favors there, but I do appreciate the fact that throughout the whole thing, Kirk was like, yeah, this is what I am. This is who I am. This is what I do. Literally, this is who I am. His authenticity through that whole thing made me fall in love with him and his family. Literally, the whole thing. Hey, Kirk,

the internet's on your side now. Yeah, pulling for him. They're getting your back. Let's go, baby. Pulling for him big time. He'll never win a Super Bowl, but I'm pulling for him. Well, and that is what I'm worried about is he's got this kind of groundswell support, and then what happens if the Vikings go 7-10 this year, 6-11?

You think Justin Jefferson's going to be on a team that's only going to win six games? Potentially. Their defense fucking sucked last year. I don't think it got much better. They just signed Daniil, didn't they? Yeah, they did. He was there last year. He was great last year, too.

Yeah, he's back in more money. They do have Flores. They have Flores will probably help a little bit. Loss of Darius Smith. Bro, you remember whenever I said, do you remember when I said, like, not having Dalvin Cook might change the way some defenses and I got assassinated for it. You were varying

Justin Jefferson. Yeah, people think I wasn't a fan of Justin Jefferson. It's like, what? Dude, I fucking love Justin Jefferson. What are we even talking about? Although NFL Rookie Watch has said that Jordan Addison and Kirk Cousins reportedly have an unbelievable chemistry already in camp. So that could be. Are they

with? They might be. Yeah. They might be putting those things on together. Like, you know that where people put a they with? They might be. Yeah, exactly. They might be putting those things on together. Yeah. Like, you know that where people put a cup with a string? Yep. They do this number? Exactly. What if they both have those cap, brain cap things?

Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's like a new team chemistry builder. Cerebro. Yeah, just kind of sending brain frequencies to each other. Kevin O'Connell, another year in the offense. Yep. Her cousin's, those first few weeks, said he had no idea what he was doing,

had no idea why things were happening, even though he's a super brainiac. He was able to figure it out. I mean, maybe. The NFC North. Who's the new Kings? I'm seeing some shit out of Jordan Love. I'm like, ah, the Kings remain the same. Let's get to a break.

Super champions already coming from that division. It's neither of those two teams. That's right. The Super Bowl champion is already coming from that division, and it's neither of those two teams. That's right. The Chicago Bears. You haven't been on the freaking Dean Orszawski, you know, wagon. It's time to wake up and open your eyes, people. We are in Dan wagon season. Dan Orszawski is latching his wagon to seven to ten different quarterbacks.

Just to see if any of them kind of make it about week 11, he can go back to a clip and say, I told you. Told you so. Fucking said it. Now, in the moment, he gets a good pop from the local crowd who all thinks they're potentially going to win the Super Bowl. Right now, Dan Orlovsky's going to Chicago eating for free everywhere. That's right.

Goodell called him like, hey, how should we judge the MVP this year? Let's get to a break. AJ Hawk will be on the other side. He'll help with that. Michael Lombardi's going to have some takes on Dan Orlovsky and Dan Wagon's season. I'm excited for the rest of this program with Tony Smoke Stewart as well. And then afterwards, me,

Pac, Smoke, and there'll be one other card, so I'll be excited to see how we figure out who the fourth is. You already decided that. Who did? I thought you did. I thought Sam was rubbing and racing. All right. I don't know if she... Well, you said it

in that microphone, so I didn't... No, I think she was going to get some hot... Oh, okay. But if she was... Time trials. Hey, listen,

she wasn't getting in there. I'm 100% in. I think we should do a time trial, though, for the whole office. Yeah, that'd be fun. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

Listen, I'll put smoke into a wall for Junior. So I think what we should do is... What's Junior? Oh, we actually have be fun. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Listen, I'll put smoke into a wall for Junior. So I think what we should do is... What's Junior? Oh, we actually have those lasers. Oh, okay. What we should do is... Yeah, for the timing

of the time trial? I guess I'll only be in the first car. No, we can do it. No, it's only one car going. Yeah. It's only one car going. Time trial.

We can go. Yeah, it'll be perfect. We should definitely do time trials. So then whoever has... Hey, my wife will compete in this. So if she has a chance to win, happy anniversary. Let's go. She'll probably win it.

Let's fucking go. Fastest time trial is obviously the fourth car. What is this, F1? We should be running heats. We are going to race. There's going to be four racers at some point. That last one, though, is going to have to be earned. Through a boring F1 time trial style.

What? Lap, hot lap or two. Absolutely. Probably three laps. You should probably get one more. Two laps. You'll get one lap to get rolling. Yep.

And then those next two laps will count. Smell me. All right. Here we go. To be clear, I do not believe I deserve to be in the race, but I own the property, so I'm going to be in it. Your name's on the car. They put my name on a car.

That's sweet. Well, I assume this one's for sale. This happens. People know that I get a little handy. Stick you with the bill right afterwards. People know that. I used to have a neighbor that just used to roll things by with, like, four sale signs on my house.

Like, he'd park it right in front of his house, so it was like my house was just staring at it. Got an all-terrain vehicle that goes in the water and the ground. I bought a car off this guy from his front yard. Motorcycle, right? I got a motorcycle out of his front yard. He knew. He was playing cards against humanity.

Yeah, and he got it. He knew. I think this guy got the message loud and clear. Hey, look at this. I think this guy got the message loud and clear. Hey, look at this. We already got stickers on him. Very sweet. All right, let's pause for a second here. Zito did some sleuthing here.

This tweet has been deleted, but it was screenshotted. This is from Dalvin Cook's trainer, Nick Hicks. If Jets fans knew what DC said today in training, they'd be heartbroken. Oh, no. Crap face. Hmm, no. This is Dalvin Cook's trainer is what we're saying, and this is real. I believe so.

That's from Gumpy. Gumpy, our internet splunker, has found this particular tweet that has since been deleted from Dalvin Cook's trainer. This is all alleged. But with that being said, Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook. That was happening just yesterday or two days ago at training camp. He's walking around the sidelines, seemingly in meetings, in training, talking, learning the playbook. We've got to figure out the business here in a second.

Nick Hicks is like, well, today, Thorne squats. He was not saying good stuff. What happened out here? Don't forget that Gumby's also part of FinFam. Oh, Gum, don't put – let's get to a break. Now we know what he said. Good point. Also, how come...

What'd he say? I mean, I'm sure Nick Hicks or maybe Dalvin had a protein shake before they worked out. So maybe one of them, you know, farted. And I bet Dalvin Cook said, Jesus, it smells just like Jersey in here now. That's what he said. He could have. Possibly. He could have.

Definitely, Bob. We will wait to hear If that is An accurate reading Of what took place Could be Very possible And if I'm a Jets fan That's what I'm pulling for

Yeah Cause it does As soon as you go in there Oh yeah Not all of Jersey No There's beautiful parts of Jersey Not saying that

But Jersey people know They know And anybody that's ever Accidentally driven Into Jersey They know Roll the windows up. It smells so fucking bad.

We played at Rutgers. Oh, yeah. Was it terrible every time you played there as well? Horrible. Terrible. Not their fault, obviously. Piscataway's a shithole. It's not their fault.

I mean, it is what it is. Yeah. Go Knights. That's right. All right, we're back in five With AJ Hawk We'll find out if that is An actual real tweet Was him

Saying Was him saying Yeah Was him Wow the Jets play smells I don't think I want to play here Shit That'd be

You go to Seattle They're right on that like Ocean or whatever Oh yeah Huge and sound Jimmy Graham was landing on You know You go down to Miami They're right on that ocean or whatever. Oh, yeah. Huge and sound. Jimmy Graham was landing on, you know. You go down to Miami, they got palm trees. There you go.

It's absolutely beautiful. Here in Indianapolis, you got a golf course surrounding it. Yeah. Practice facilities can be beautiful. The views can be amazing. What if it is just such a shitty smell that Dalvin Cook can't do it? That'd be a shame. We don't know if that's real or not. No, we don't.

Just something to think about. Joining us now is a man who is the biggest sandbagger in the history of golf. But the reason why that is the case, because I think he likes to remain the super humble image looking guy. How can you be humble, though, if you're as handsome as this guy

is? He's currently the president of Ohio. He's a college football national champion. That means at the amateur level. College, went all the way to the mountaintop. Yeah. Saw the sights. Saw the scenes. Did the party.

How you doing? Mm-hmm. Then he got in the NFL, number five overall pick. Whoa. Yeah. Really rich. Really well. Old CBA.

Yeah. Old CBA. Very wealthy. Then he goes and wins the Super Bowl. Holy shit. Then he becomes the all-time leading tackler for one of the oldest franchises in the history of professional sports. Unbelievable. All the while,time leading tackler for one of the oldest franchises in the history of professional sports. Unbelievable.

All the while, remaining in the Ohio fuck. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Hey, AJ. How you doing, AJ? Hey, happy anniversary, man. I saw it. Three years. That's impressive, man.

Congrats. Thank you. How long have you and Laura been together? Oh, man. Like 17. Okay, on my anniversary, you're going to ruin your marriage. Oh, geez. No, no, we have two anniversaries, so they're hard to keep track of anyway.

July 29th is one of them. But, yeah, that was our first one. Okay, well, happy anniversary. That's when you guys met or got married. Is that the two different anniversaries? No, we went and got married, like, in a little lawyer's office or whatever. And then we had our scheduled wedding the following spring that we had all that and had all our friends and everybody there. You would be a guy that would go down

to a courthouse and kind of just get it done. I appreciate the fact that Laura was there as well and you guys said, it ain't about us. Let's just have a party. I like that. So humble. Even more so. They celebrate the split jersey anniversary as well. Yeah, which was January

6th. That's his birthday... January 6th? Good question. That's his birthday. Oh, yeah. January 6th is his birthday. They had that parade in Washington, D.C. a few years ago. See, that's the thing right there. I don't know if that's what they call it. I don't think it was a parade.

It looked like it. What did old buddy say? Dust up? Dust up. Dust up. Del Rio. Yeah, Del Rio. Yeah, there was some crazy shit that happened in Washington, D.C. on this guy's birthday.

We're not saying that the two went hand in hand, but that was certainly January 7th for us. Yeah. Oh, it was. Found out. For our world. Hey, Jay. We hope everybody's safe. Yes. Yes.

Always. And hell yeah to American freedom. That's right. Hell yeah. And let's not be storming anything. That's right. Ever again. Let's just go ahead and live. Let's just storm into beaches's not be storming anything. That's right. Ever again. Let's just go ahead and

live. Let's just storm into the beaches because we're going to dominate a fucking war. Amen. I thought you were going to say beach volleyball or something like that. I didn't know you were going to take that all the way to war, but we're not warmongers around here. We hope everybody's okay. We hope everybody remains safe. And happy birthday to you. I'm happy they did that in D.C. for you then.

Let's talk about some things that we've talked about today. DeMar Hamlin has been handling being DeMar Hamlin and his new celebrity fame and also all eyes on him at all times in a beautiful fashion I do believe did you see his press conference and what are your thoughts on this guy being back in pads in practicing in the NFL like this isn't like uh like the NFL is not easy like making a training a training camp, not easy. Okay, not easy, obviously. I'm not saying DeMar Hamlin was ever near not making a training camp in his football life. But I'm saying from being dead on TV to back in an NFL training camp

in this amount of time is just mind-blowing. I don't think I fully wrapped my mind around it. What are your thoughts on it, A.J. Hawk? Well, I mean, I don't know about you, but as far as football goes, I can't ever remember seeing anything like this ever happen before. I mean, guys have come back from crazy things, but the heart thing, watching how it was just everywhere, worldwide, not even national. It was everywhere. And I remember, I think we talked about it on the show, people were saying, oh, I don't know if he's going to play football again.

Who cares about football right now? That was how we were for the longest time. And now for him, though, I saw his presser. It's got to be tough for him. He wants to get back to normal, I would assume. And it's really hard because everyone wants a piece of him. And he's sitting there like, I get it. But also, I have a pretty tough gig that I have to take care of

every single day out here on the field. Joining us now is the man who's the general manager of the team that DeMar Hamlin plays for. He's put together quite a roster that is always in conversation about winning a Super Bowl. How's the pressure? Who cares? You need to perform, and it better be great.

Joining us now, a great gopher. Great gopher. I guess he's a great gopher. Real stick. I wonder how the gopher season went this particular offseason. Joining us now, general manager for the Buffalo Beals, ladies and gentlemen, Brandon Bain. Hey, Brandon! Appreciate that, Pat.

Hey, I appreciate you, Brandon. I don't know if you see what I just put on the back here just to make you feel a little bit more at home. This is your new stadium that's coming here in a few years, and I've been told, Bean, and I don't want to do this immediately upon the conversation. I'm going to ask about DeMar, and I'm going to ask about the team, and all the good stuff you guys got going,

and everything like that. I've been told, Bean, okay, I'm not happy about it, and neither are the people. These fucking buffaloes are not the size of the ones they're going to be in real life. That's right. I've been told that you guys got little baby buffaloes in real life, and on this sketch, these things are almost the size of a stadium.

Where is the miscommunication being? Are we getting big-ass buffaloes, or is it going to be a little smaller buffaloes out there in real life? We're going to get big-ass buffaloes. Okay. All right. Let the buffaloes know, brother. Let the buffaloes know, brother.

We got big buffaloes coming to town. Hopefully some live ones. How about that? Could you imagine you had them just – Holy shit. Like that was a part of it, like your miniature golfing, humans just like buffalo storming yeah have them lead them lead the team out of the tunnel i have like five of them by colorado yeah that that thing ralphie i believe is the name of the buffalo anyways good luck with the new stadium building we did hear that there

was a little baby buffaloes and there was there was buffalo nians that were not happy about it so i'm happy to hear we got big ass buffaloes that's good news shit put it on the ticker yeah i'm all over it big ass buffaloes okay thank you how's the um how's the team how's the vibes how's the morale we were just talking about tomorrow hamlin obviously this situation is something aj just alluded to we've never seen before and i was at the espys uh two weeks ago and there were so many video packages and i got a chance to meet denny Kellington and the entire team there and kind of relive that whole moment that was so, like, scary. I couldn't even imagine knowing him like you guys know him

and being a part of it. But we all had our worst nightmares. And now he's back on the field in pads, seemingly handling it perfectly. I mean, what a situation for DeMar Hamlin. What have you seen out of him? Or what did you know about him, maybe, that you thought? And then what do you know about him now after this entire experience, Bean? I know he is one courageous dude. Like, to go through a near-death experience on the football field, playing this, you know, it's a gladiator sport,

as we all know it. And to do that at all, much less in front of the whole world. I mean, everybody's been following this story ever since it happened, all the way to where we're at. And it's going to continue. I told him when he decided he was definitely coming back, I'm like, your story is yet to be written. And it's going to be exciting to watch your journey. And he's just so positive mentally you know mentally tough mentally strong

everybody's here just supporting him and yesterday was you know it was awesome in the sense that he's putting pads on we're lining up and he's really about to line up in nine on seven and uh and be ready to square dudes up i mean i i'd like to consider myself a tough dude but that's a tough dude we were talking about that how like when i had a knee any of my knee things whenever you get back into it my first fear is like oh i'm gonna hurt it again or there's a little bit of pain i'm gonna hurt again there's like a mental hurdle that people have to get over after getting injured we talked about this in the first hour it's like that is a big one what just standard tackle Yes. death happening, and then just being like,

yeah, next training camp, I'm not missing a day. That type of stuff is unfathomable for my brain, but that's because I'm one of these baby buffaloes instead of one of the big-ass buffaloes you're going to put out there. I assume behind the scenes over there there it's an incredible conversation about everything

happening in the building with him no it is everyone knew that yesterday was going to be a big day it's not you know it's it was the biggest hurdle yeah he still got hurdles we still got to play games and do more live scrimmage stuff but just i mean literally strapping those pads on that helmet on uh is is a different feeling. Pads, you know, the first day of pads, you guys know, the first day of pads, everybody, you haven't done it since, you know, last January, February, depending on when your season ended. And so a lot of guys are nervous. And that's just natural.

But you're talking about a guy who the last time he had pads on, you know, stuff was being cut off. His life was having to be revived. So super proud of him. It's a great moment for him, for our team, just the whole country, you know, stuff was being cut off. His life was having to be revived. So super proud of him. It's a great moment for him, for our team, just the whole country to, you know, to be excited about his story. We're all celebrating you guys up there for that and obviously wish him nothing but the best. Yinzer, so you got to remember that.

Tough guy. Going to be a tough guy, Yinzer. For sure. AJ has a question for you, Bean. Brandon, I was interested in how, what's it like as a GM to actually sit there and observe and watch practice with all these guys in the roster that you put together. I was just thinking, back in the day, I used to stand by Ted Thompson sometime, the late, great GM in Green Bay when I was there, and he would sit there in every play. He'd just say, okay, oh, easy, easy, okay, and he'd try to walk in and almost end every single play before the whistle,

and he'd get mad with all the extracur curricular i wonder what it's like as a gm it's exactly that exactly what ted was doing you're you're looking and when bodies go down you're looking to see is everybody getting up for all the limbs intact nothing no trainers running over there you just you're happy uh you know i always walk over to our trainer as soon as practice is over like hey did i miss anything because sometimes you got you know we run a couple of periods where we got guys playing on one field, another. Maybe I missed it. But you want to get better out there. But I'm always the happiest when we walk off the field.

We didn't lose anybody. Yeah, I think that is probably the fans' mindsets as well. As we kind of watch along, that first day of training camp or the first day of practice it was like joe burrow jalen ramsey names start going out there whenever you see that like that just slaps reality right back in your face like hey this could happen once we get into this you got you got 90 guys and so it's gonna happen i mean we've had a few guys here and there but uh yeah i mean even we ran a play yesterday they ran a little trick play and uh josh took a. And he goes down, and it's like, you know, your air goes out, and you're just like, please, you know, that's your quarterback.

Every team's going to do that. For anybody, much less your starting quarterback. Tell me when he stands. Tell me when he stands up. Yeah, exactly. Tell me when he stands up. You're looking over there. And then he's getting up, and he's giggling.

I'm over there going, dude, are you all right? Like, are you messing around? Like, don't do that. Yeah, we need not to see you in that position ever again. You know, I've told you the last few years that I'd like you to trade Josh Allen to us. I don't want you anymore. Yeah, no. We got a guy, Anthony Richardson.

I go to training camp and I watch his practice. And I'm like the rest of the NFL fan base. Like, I see things. I'm like, okay, we can win this year. Holy shit. And then we're a rest of the NFL fan base. Like I see things, I'm like, okay, we can win this year. Holy shit. And then we're a part of the problem. Because we have NFL rights. So we show these highlights of these young guys that have never stepped foot on an NFL field before.

They're wearing maybe spiders, not even anywhere near pads. They're running one-on-ones with a linebacker who's working on a new technique. They end up wide open. They're running one-on-ones with a linebacker who's working on a new technique. They end up wide open, and it's like, oh, this guy's going to be the next insert name of Hall of Fame football player that played for 20 years at a very high thing. How do you, as a GM, whenever you're figuring out who's going to make your team and not make your team, how do you balance those highlight moments, like, oh, this guy could fit in in the NFL, versus also reality of,

we haven't really seen shit, right? Is that kind of where we're at a training camp right now in your eyes or has there been enough to kind of get a good read? Well, I mean, first off, we just put it on pads yesterday. I mean, and before that, there's still the social media sensation. Some clip gets out there that a media member

put out there or a fan or whatever. Whoever it is. And then we... It's going to be hard to stop. You're right. It's one-on-ones. He's got no safety help. You know, whatever the situation is, stuff that doesn't happen.

I mean, we don't play... It's not a one-on-one game. I mean, there are spots where it's man with a man, but there's so much where you got various helps and the defenses, you know, the quarterback standing back there, no pressure on him being able to stand flat-footed and deliver a throw. Oh, Bean, stop making excuses. Come on. The reality of it. But how do you balance that, though?

How do you balance seeing that and then also is the guy good enough to make the team full-time? Because there's only 50. Is there more spots now at 53 is still the number? 53, yeah. We're at 90, man, but you've got to cut at the 53 and then 16 back on the practice squad. So, no, I mean, you're kind of putting your units together. You're mixing guys up.

All right, if this guy's doing well with the threes, let's start putting him with the twos. Is he doing just as well with the twos? If he is, let's get him some reps with the ones. Oh, you know what? Not quite as effective as the one. Let's put him back with the twos. You're just trying to figure out where he best belongs.

Is he going to be a key backup? Is he better on the third string as a practice squad? Or is this guy, maybe he's fighting for a starting spot. So you're kind of just moving him up and down. And as long as they continue to answer those bells, you get the preseason games. Can they answer the challenge there? Can they back it up?

Is it just a one-game wonder? All right, can he do it again in game two? So you're just doing the best you can. It's a short window. You don't get to see every look with them you want, but you're making the best decision you can. How do you, like, in the balance of power of things, talent, skill, buy-in, everything, what about, like, your culture?

It feels like your culture matters up there. You know what I mean? It feels like in Buffalo your culture matters. That's why the Stephon Diggs thing, fucking all of us were like, what the hell is going on? Because everybody we talked to up there, you, Coach, Poyer,

Vaughn, Joss, Micah, Noxy. Everybody we talked to up there is like, fucking love it here. It's like a family here. We play cards here. We stay here. Everything. The culture you've built, I feel like everybody else would like the bottle. Not that other teams don't have it, but everybody's looking for that. How much is that whenever you're kind of evaluating who's going to make your team through training camp?

Like, we used to be, at least I was because I thought I was going to get cut every single year because I ran my mouth a lot. And stuff like that. That's a good mindset, though. You worked your ass off. Scared you were going to get cut every year. I like that mindset. Oh, yeah. I don't think there's enough fear these days of these motherfuckers losing their jobs.

You know what I mean? I don't think there's enough of that anywhere. I don't think there's enough of that anywhere. But I used to think to myself, like, I'm going to pick up my trash, obviously, because I'm a good human. But also, there's no way I'm going to be the reason why there's some shit on the ground here. Like, those little things that, like, I think some players get paranoid about like, oh, they're talking to the kitchen staff. They're talking to the equipment managers. They're talking like, how much of that do you have to balance of getting in your building?

And then also making sure that that doesn't get in. Is that a big part of team evaluation for you? Yeah, it's definitely a big part. It's, it's, it's a tool. It's, it's one of the things you're obviously evaluating how they are on the field, but are they a good teammate? You know, everybody can be a good teammate when you're winning, when things are going well, but we all know 17 game season, there's going to be adversity and our team faced a lot of it last year. And if you're going

to get through the ups and downs of a 17 game season, you need team first guys, guys all in. It's not about me. It's about we. All those slogans out there, that's real. And you're right. How do they treat the kitchen staff? How do they treat the equipment guys? How do they treat the trainers?

How do they treat the security staff? All the people. How do they treat the guy that picks them up at the airport? All those people. We talk to every single one. And if we've got an a-hole in here that is here for himself, the talent's not worth it. It's really not because their true colors are going to shine

at the worst moment of the season. Yeah, it doesn't show up until it shows up. I think it's another way. It doesn't show up until it shows up or whatever. All these cliches are real. The reason why they become cliches is because they are accurate in there. And don't ever say a-hole on my show again they're gonna get us canceled all right people are already you need to not do that on this show

i'm fucking sick of it it is aj go ahead yeah i'm fucking sorry aj go ahead pal brandon uh as far as like what these preseason games start, I guess how does that process work on evaluating players on other teams that could possibly be cut? It's a tough thing to do. I know every coach will tell every player going into preseason games, hey, every team is watching these games. So if you don't have a spot on this team, someone else could pick you up.

That's got to be kind of tough to try to gauge who might get cut, who you could possibly pick up in those couple days. Yeah, the way we do it, AJ, is we take our pro scouting department and those guys divide up their teams. I kind of say, hey, you're the GM of X number of teams, and we divide them up. They're following these guys all preseason. They're reading clips on them. They're watching any games they play, and it's their job. Yeah, they're not worried about the starters. If they're grading the Jets roster, they're not grading Aaron Rodgers or Garrett Wilson, those guys. They're grading the

backing guys. Who are the guys that could potentially be released that we need to know and is it an upgrade over a guy that we have at that same position, especially as injuries happen. Right now, you might go, you wouldn't put a claim in for him, but if you have a couple injuries there, you're going,

man, this guy's better than the next guy we have on our roster. You want to talk shit on Joe Douglas at all so we can get another Aaron Rodgers soundbite or no? I love Joe Douglas. I love Joe Douglas. This guy! Pac-Man has a question for you, Bean. We know how good your team is. You pretty much have

your starters if you look at it. Is there any young guys that's done stood out that you can tell us about during this process? Yeah, I mean, a couple of our rookies, you know, have definitely stood out. I would, you know, I would start with Dalton Kincaid. He's had a good spring, good start to camp. Again, another guy that you want to see more when guys are being able to press him a little bit more now that we're in pads.

And is he going to be able to catch that ball secure it taking a hit you know things like that a couple of our linebackers um you know we got tyrell we got you know we lost tremaine edmonds so we got tyrell dodson you know who's been here a few years tyrell bernards in his second year and baylon specters in his second year those guys are all competing for a middle linebacker we got some other guys uh as well but I would say those guys, we've got key eyes on at this point. We've seen a few Kincaid things. There's been a lot of Kincaid talk.

I mean, the rookies kind of get the most amount of chat here early in camp because everybody either wants to deem them all pro Hall of Fames or bust already. And the Dalton stuff on the internet has been pretty good. As soon as you drafted him, you said we're going to see him outside, right? Well, we're going to flex him out. I mean, we've actually – it's funny. Yesterday they had him blocking a little bit inside. Oh!

But, you know, we'll have him and Knox on the field. We'll run probably more 12 than we've run in the past. But we think he can play the F and the Y, but I would say his first position is the F and Dawson's first position be a Y. Explain what the fuck that is. Oh, flexed out, like a flexed out tight end. And then a Y is going to be more inline

blocker. We'll mix it up some. It's not going to always be the same, but I would say he's best if he's flexed out more of that receiving tight end than that inline blocking tight end. That's one of the things I know that Dalton wants to get better at is his inline blocking hey look at that little break there huh you gotta feel good about that you look like you go oh get him

under control man yeah he looked good you're a little handsy out there ty smith has a question for you bean yeah brain and obviously with how good you guys have been over the last several years like the expectations are always there going into the season but pat mentioned it you know with all the demar stuff and then the dig stuff which kind of fizzled out and really wasn't a big deal but going into this year like have you noticed has it been a bigger media circus than you guys have ever been around before up there even with all the expectations and do you ever worry about i mean obviously you have a bunch of veterans at key positions but do you ever worry about like that type of stuff becoming a distraction as you guys are going through camp you do want to minimize distractions i don't think the media

presence they've been more for demar you know the staff stuff was more in june um you know i think that really from our standpoint fizzled out when we went on break maybe the national media was still talking about over over the summer, but it wasn't an issue for us internally. We talked through that in June. And so I do think there's been some media stuff around tomorrow, rightfully so, as we started this show off. But, no, you know, last year we had, you know, a lot of the talking heads,

a lot of people were crowning us, you know, this is the Super Bowl favorite or whatever. And so, you know, you'd rather lay low and just, you know, come out and just play ball and let your work speak for itself. So I don't think there's I would say this year there's probably less people that, you know, with the AFC East getting as stacked as it is, you know, with what the Jets have done, the Dolphins and the Patriots have made some changes, bringing Bill O'Brien and some new players there. So I don't think anyone – I don't think it's the people are out there, you know, kind of putting the pressure or projecting us as that Super Bowl favorite like they were a year ago at this time. Oh, we need to start doing that a little bit. No, let's don't.

Yeah. Let's don't do that. Yeah, not a lot of people listen to this, and it doesn't really influence anybody, but we'll at least – we'll scream. Yeah. We'll scream. Buffalo Bills. Are they going to go perfect this year?

Wow. Probably. I look at their schedule. I don't see a single L. No. No. I think they're favored in every game, actually. 20 points.

If there's even a close game, that's a loss. I mean, that's where the Buffalo Bills are. I'll tell you what, we're part of the group. Stop being an asshole. Not on this show, B. Not on this show, B! Not on this show! Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Brandon, right now, one of the big things with training camp is these holdouts, and obviously the Bills aren't a team that's dealing with that,

but there are some big, big names. Bosa, Zach Martin. Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs. Some others. But for you, as the GM, what is kind of that process like? Are you reaching out a lot or is it kind of similar to if you're negotiating with a free agent where there might not be any talks or negotiations for a little

and then you come back and revisit it right before, you know, maybe the first or second preseason game? You're saying if I'm one of the GMs of those teams that has to hold out? Yeah. Yeah, I think you're – I mean, fortunately we haven't had to deal with that here. But, you know, I think what you're doing is you're trying to keep the lines of communication. Maybe you're in disagreement on what the price is

or what one's looking for or the other. I think you just – you're trying to have as much open dialogue as you can. And hopefully you're putting some kind of deadlines. Hopefully both parties can agree, hey, we've got to come to some consensus because we all know that people react and respond to deadlines and is it game one is it to get them in some pre-season action you got to kind of agree on some terms that hey by this point we got to get this resolved i don't care if we got to stay up all night every night for two or three days but But hopefully, and worst case, have the agent fly to you or you fly to them, sit in a room, and let's knock this out

so we can get the player back in uniform. Business is always better done in person. That's why we've got Faith O'Gumpy's coming back to the United States of America. Hopefully that will be the case. But I believe you told us that whenever you heard there was potentially some rumblings that Stephon Diggs and the Vikings weren't really great anymore this is kind of a job of a GM you kind of poke your head in and say hey what's going on over there and then there's you know some stuff whenever you guys and Diggs were going through the couple day very public seemingly situation was there

calls and have you been on the phone with anybody with any of the situations going on in the NFL right now no um you know no one called on digs I think people know uh that you know he's ours and we wouldn't even if there was an issue and he was never asking to be true that never came up I got a great relationship with with his agent Adisa Bakari so it was truly never an issue it was just more us getting in a room and talking through how last season finished and getting on the same page. But, no, with the guys right now that are out there, we have not. I think if those GMs were interested in doing business or they thought,

hey, I'm going to trade this player, they would definitely reach out. So we just kind of sit back and let them handle it. And, like I said, if they feel like they want to, I'm sure they would start shopping them to teams around the league. Do you ever get time to relax? Like when do you have, I guess we just came off your off time, right? I know you're a good golfer, but what is your, your day-to-day during camp? I would imagine is a 24 hour gig. Like, I don't know from here on out, you're just in for the long haul, aren't you? until the Super Bowl? Pretty much. I mean, I do play a lot of golf during the summer.

How was the season? How were we? Did we suck this year or were we good? You know what I always do, Pat? I get my game and my swing right where I want it, and then we've got to put the stakes up. But fortunately here in Rochester, we're right across the street from Oak Hill where they played the PGA Championship this year.

So I snuck over there a couple times the day before camp. And then we had an off day Saturday. And we got one more coming up. So I'm going to try to find my way over there. But other than that, yeah, we're just here. We're watching our guys breaking down our film and getting guys ready to start looking at other NFL rosters. All right. $50,000 donation, charity of your choosing.

What do we need that over-under to be for that next time you go to Oak Hill? Hey, listen, we're doing a lot of faith right now. $50,000 ain't nothing to say. $80,000? I think $80,000. I got $80,000. $72,000. I thought his handicap was $6,000.

I've heard you're a stick, so you're trying to sandbag us like A.J. Hawk right now a little bit. How about we do this? We'll do 79. 79 will donate $25,000. Better than 79 will donate $50,000. Above it, Brandon Bean donates $2 million. A little pressure. That'd be a lot of pressure.

No, no. Sorry. So we'll go you go under 79, $50,000. 79 will be $25, pressure. No, no, sorry. So we'll go, you go under $79,000, $50,000. $79,000 would be $25,000. Above that, obviously, we just will act like it didn't happen. Nobody will remember this. We're just going to move on. I'll be glad to donate if I go over it.

How much? How much? $25,000. Wow. Wow. That's a complete beast. All right. Yep. Look at that.

Those are the deals we made. We're not in person, we gotta do what we gotta do Tony has a question for you Brandon I was looking at the roster that you built and you already had a bunch of pass rushers in Shaq Lawson and Vaughn and Russo and Epinesa and then you add Leonard Floyd and you even bring in Shane Ray like is that

did you look at your defense and you said we need to get better at getting to the quarterback or did you just look at every single team in the AFC has a quarterback and that's how you're going to win games? Yeah, I mean, that's exactly it is. Ultimately, when you get to those, you know, we've been fortunate enough, we won the division last few years, we've got into the playoffs, we've made some runs, but you know, the further you go, the better those quarterbacks are. And so obviously your quarterback's got to play well, but you've got to affect the other team's quarterback

if you're going to get over the top. So always trying to find different ways to pressure those guys, different types of rushers, power, speed, finesse. All those guys that can play inside can rush from the outside. So that's what it is, just trying to – and also keeping them fresh. As many guys that we can rotate in there, that's just how we like to build this defense. I think that's how – you know, it's like weapons on offense,

seemingly very deep in the teams that are going, and then pass rushers very deep on the teams that are going. It seems to be trends with the way the game is shifting. Is that why this is what football has become? And do you see this being the trend forever? Or is like – like are we going to get back to, like right now, the running back market and is a big conversation, obviously. The running back market is a big conversation, but the game has changed

than what it was 10 years ago, 15 years ago. The rules have changed that. Do you think something cyclical, though? Are you trying to make your team for what football is now? Or do you have to project a change in the game in the future? Because if everybody gets small, you would assume that what teams are going to do is they're going to get big like you would just assume that somebody's going to do that do you think about that as a whole whenever you're shaping the team or is that not really cross your mind because it's

too much bullshit no i think you're always trying to figure out how can you best build your team to give you as many advantageous matchups as possible. And the rules, it's more of a, you said it, the league is set up more for passing. The rules are set up from pass interference, illegal contact. There's just so many rules that you're going to score more points if you can throw the ball effectively. You do have to be able to run the ball. We don't want to just be a passing team.

You're going to play weather games. You're going to play teams that are really good at, you know, you can't slow down their pass rush unless you can run it. So we want to be able to do both. But if the teams that generally are winning the Super Bowl or winning the AFC or NFC championships, they're able to throw the football. And so, you know, that's kind of where we start. Hey, you're going to run in that situation going on right now. And it's very touchy. And it's not just your team that probably has eyes on this particular situation that's viewing. It's the entire NFL on precedent and what's going on with Naeem Hines. Now, obviously, we love Naeem.

He was here in Indy whenever he went to Buffalo. We are very, very pumped up for him. What I heard happen to him is so fucking heartbreaking. I couldn't even imagine him or you guys with the hopes of what this year would be another year in the system with what takes place behind the scenes how's that conversation go with Naeem his people what does the future look like with him and has that been a thorn or something you have to worry about every single day and how's it going yeah I mean it's tough like listen uh when you have a worry about every single day? And how's it going? Yeah, I mean, it's tough.

Like, listen, when you have a non-football injury, which is what it is, and you guys know the rules. Unfortunately, there are certain things you can't do. If you get hurt on those things, it can affect your salary. And so, yeah, we're still working through that. Naeem's scheduled to have surgery here soon. I feel bad for him. He's a great young man.

We were excited to get him last year in the trade. And you remember the game after DeMar got hurt. He takes the two kickoffs back. And this offseason, you know, we had done a lot of things to incorporate him into the offense. He was obviously still going to be a dual threat as a returner. But Ken Dorsey was very disappointed, you know, like we all were to get that news here a couple of weeks ago. It's just like, geez, we hadn't even started and we're losing someone so uh stinks for him stinks for us but uh we'll we'll support him through that and uh hopefully get him rehabbing here soon once he has surgery yeah it's it's crazy because like that non-football injury thing is we all know about it every player knows it but it's also it's

not just like now granted you're going to be the one that has to make the decision and be the bad guy and the whole thing and there's other people that are going to be in it. But the whole league is like, let's watch what precedent we're setting here. Let's watch. It's a tough situation. Obviously, we're very sad for Naeem Hines. But also, for you, that is not a fun thing to have to deal with. And after the year that you guys had last year, and obviously, don't make any excuses,

but it was like, it's seemingly one thing after another. I guess that's why you get paid the big bucks. I'm fucking happy I'm not you. That's all I want to let you know. Good luck this season. We appreciate the hell

out of you, man. I appreciate you guys. Always love being on with you. Hey, 79, 25,000. All right. Under 79, we're donating 50. Over 79,

you're donating 25. Yep. I'll let you know. I promise you. I'll have witnesses. I was about to say, golfing alone, Dan. Over $79,000. You're donating $25,000. Yep. I'll let you know. I promise you. I'll have witnesses. As I say, golfing alone. Dan Orlovsky. Yeah.

Dan Orlovsky did false to math. Yeah. He pencil whipped you? He did. He did. He did pencil whip you. Yes, he did. For charity.

Ridiculous. Unbelievable. For charity. I'm a joker. It's unbelievable. It's a good logo to do that for charity. I agree. We don't need any of that. Not in our world. Not in your unbelievable. I would go to do that for charity. I agree. We don't need any of that.

Not in our world, not in your world. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Brandon Bain. Yeah. All right. Good luck to him. Yeah. Hey, he's...

Yeah, he needs a good... He needs you to 73 or 72. He just played there, what, last Saturday? Yeah. He knows exactly what he's going to get. Yes. Well, that's good. We're done.

Yeah, for sure. We're done. Yeah. I did hear about those buffalos, that's good. We're done. Yeah, for sure. We're done. I did hear about those buffalos being small, though. Oh, yeah. That was perfect. Loud conversation. It was. Are they going to be there?

Do you think they'll even be there when the stadium is built? Well, what they put it in the fucking thing for, if they're not. Yeah. Because no one's going to remember four years ago. Oh, yeah. You don't remember the buffalos? Buffalo Indians. Yeah, I'm thinking they'll remember.

Look at how big this fucking thing is. If they put three giant, I guess what? That's really good quality. Statues of those big-ass buffalo, I will be impressed. It'd be awesome if you could get on top and take pictures, too, like you're riding them. All right, this human's about one pencil big. Yep.

Wow. All right, so let's go. That's probably like five, seven, eight. Yep. Let's go, so let's go. That's probably like 5, 7, 8. Yep. Let's go up to yonder. It's like 10, 14, 11, 2. Yeah, just like a... Three and a half pencils. Yeah. Three stories.

Just get this thing about 20 feet tall. Yeah. What's the big deal? And they need to... I don't want... And how many? They need fur, okay? They need fur. They need to be like museum buffalo. Yeah, like a mammoth. Just 20 by 20. What do we even... Or just do one.

Do one that's... Are we trying to win a Super Bowl or not? One gigantic one that's the size of the stadium, but it's right next to it outside. Oh, seriously. 60 feet tall. You're saying one that's just the size of all these... Because you've seen a buffalo alone before?

Yep. Okay. Because you kind of see right now if the quality of the photo is a little lower, this is kind of like a centipede operation. Yeah. Where the buffalo roam together. Oh, no, it is.

Someone was having some fun with that, weren't they? No, AJ. You said like the human centipede, the buffalo were lined up like that, right? No, I wasn't talking how you were talking. Their heads are right by their old caboose. They're running close to each other. That's the angle.

Can you call Bean back, actually? Can you please call Bean back? Can you please call Bean back? We need to talk. What's the deal here? Someone trying to have some fun with this? What's with the shenanigans? A giant one.

Come on. I thought we were professional operation. Hey, we're calling a PR guy. I guess it wasn't Bean's actual number. Let's see what they answer. Imagine he's got walking through. What? We need him back. I mean, he should operation. Hey, we're calling the PR guy. I guess it wasn't Bean's actual number. Let's see what they answer. Matt just got walking through. What? We need him back.

I mean, he could have the answers, too. Yeah, actually, put him on. Ask the PR guy. Tell him we got him. Yeah, PR guy. I said, no. Who made this? Who did this rendering?

It looks awesome. What are you talking about? Some company that got paid probably hundreds of thousands of dollars. Some architect put this thing together. It is going to look awesome. Easter egg. Is it sponsored, or are they just calling it Buffalo Bill Stadium? Not yet.

It will be. I'm sure it will be. Because Buffalo Bill Stadium is sweet. I was actually going to wish him happy birthday. His birthday was the other day. Oh, yeah. So that's what I was going to do. I was going to ask him about what this is.

Yeah. Somebody having fun with the rendering. Yeah. They're professional, pal. Jeez Louise. All right. Let's get to a break. Shall we?

You mentioned it, not me. I didn't even notice. I was talking about the bug. That's not it. You were talking about the South Park episode. You said centipede. No, I'm talking about the movie. Oh, the human centipede movie.

I think I've seen that. I've never seen the South Park situation. There's a surgeon, and he basically puts people together, heads and assholes. Sews them together. There's a front and a back, like a centipede. South Park just took it to the next level. They had a bunch of sushi, and then he was pooping into the person's mouth behind him. But that was actually a real movie with real people.

It was. A couple of them, yeah. A couple of sequels, too. Yeah, two, three, actually. Human Centipede was a movie. It's art. You wouldn't get it. It's art.

All right. So be it. I don't think i would get it either but yeah from the first person in front of they inhale as you so so like in this newest avatar old cuz swims in the mouth of cuz yep and then he attaches his thing to the thing in the whale is that what they were doing in the thing something similar is that how they were doing in the thing? Something similar. Is that how they were able to breathe? I think you can still breathe out of your nose. When you're in somebody's butthole? No, I think your mouth is just like sewn onto someone's butthole and then I think you can still breathe.

That's what it was? Yeah, it's not airtight though. Like you can still breathe out of your nose probably. Yeah, you're still alive. That's a disgusting movie. Who made that? Why is that person still walking these streets? That's like the Saw person.

We need to keep an eye on that person. I got a new one coming out, actually. Saw 10. I'm thinking of that stuff. What's going on? Who's, you know? Good question. Is everything okay?

Definitely not. I saw Saw. That's like the only horror film I've really gotten into or watched. The first one? Yeah. So good. I'd like to play a game. And then as soon as you

leave there, you're like, alright, I'm gonna be scared to fucking death, I guess. This is the only scary movie I'm gonna ever watch. And then a couple days pass, you may take some vitamins and you're like, who thought of all that? Who's the person? What's wrong with them? Oh, they got Saw 16 coming up.

This guy just never had a never-ending supply of ways to kill people and torture people. Let's keep a fucking eye on that guy. First one, I believe, is from a college psychology class where college kids came up with the idea, and then it was bought, and they made the movie based on what they kind of did in that class. AJ, you would have abused being a jail officer in that college experiment. Big Stanford prison experiment. No, that's not me.

I'm not into that. I was talking to somebody the other night about that. I was never the guy that went, oh, I can't wait until I'm a vet so I can haze these young guys. I was never, I never wanted anything to do with it. Yeah, but seven days, 14 days in, you wearing that badge, you get a little power. Oh, yeah. I'd be over there. It's possible.

I'd watch it. I'd be in the prisoner suit and I'd be like, you're a little power on me. Oh, yeah. I'd be over there. I'd be in the prisoner suit, and I'd be like, you're a toxic piece of shit. What's that? Boom. Exactly. You know what I mean? Going to solitary.

That's what you would do. I think you would. I'd have you put your hands up on the bar, and I'd blast you with my baton. Thank God it's the bar. I thought you were going to say. Yeah. I thought you were going to talk about AAA.

Look at you guys. You're so toxic. I never would have thought anything like that. Let's get to a break. We're just talking about a movie that you brought up that is disgusting. No one's doing anything like that. Somebody thought of the movie. So I'm sure there's others that are thinking of things like that. I could help.

It's fun being creative on things like that. So you're a part of the product. So you're one of the guys. Just like we've been saying. You got to think outside the box sometimes. You can't just sit in your little bubble. I do. That is what I do.

No, I'm known for doing that. Just staying in my bubble. It's pretty sweet. It's a pretty cool little spot. And then I hear about things. And then I often wonder. You know what? One day I'll dive into the world Of these people who are

Dreaming and fantasizing About sewing lips to buttholes And so much so That they're making movies doing this So they can see people actually do it It freaks me out a little bit It's crazy Hey thanks for doing it

They probably won an award Did they win an award? No. Maybe a Razzie. The one that LeBron won for worst movie? Yeah, it was a Razzie. What was that? Space Jam was not that bad.

Well, especially in comparison to his school. Yeah. Come on. What? They're promising, but I don't know what they're promising, those kids. Not math. Yeah. They're certainly experiencing a much better life than they would.

Absolutely. For sure. So we need to make sure that is understood. Right. Dirt bags. But boy, oh boy. I mean, the kids aren't pissed. It's the school district that's saying, hey, we're giving you all this fucking funding,

and these goddamn kids haven't passed a test in three years. Okay. So what are you promising? Well, you know, COVID changed schooling. Yeah, it did. It did? COVID changed schooling. It did. It is alarming. That was the most recent update about all those schools. Seemed like a great idea.

Yeah. I love it. You're relying on a lot of people to execute that, right? Like a lot of people to execute that. Yeah. They're going to have to change those people out, I think. They're reading well. Yeah, we only learned about math.

Yeah, exactly. Wait until you see the fucking chemistry scores. Through the roof. Exactly. So, you know, maybe point fingers elsewhere. So the math teachers there are terrible. Yeah. Sue them.

Okay, you should see them read. Right. Speak. What? Ball. What? And significant figures in chemistry. Exactly.

So good at sig figs. So many sig figs out there. You don't even know what that is, AJ. I do not. Oh, what an embarrassment. Explain it to me. Can you explain it to me? Oh, that would be one I don't think I'd be able to pull out. I do know it's the amount of numbers in something being equal to something else in a chemistry equation.

I think. Significant figures. Numbers next. I believe I'm on there. If you're talking Pythagorean, I could get you through that one. Oh, yeah. A and B, man. That's C there.

Yeah. You know what I mean? A squared. Just like every square is a rectangle. Boom. That's C there. Yeah. You know what I mean? A squared. Just like every square is a rectangle. Boom. That's right. But no rectangle is a square. Bingo.

Think about that. See if you can pass the fucking test. That is AJ Hawk, a man who has never, ever put his hand in for a team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Not once. That's false.

That's false. It's documented. You know that. Nope. And when Wiz Khalifa said, put your hands up, you know, you actually took them and put them the other direction. Trying to hold my hands down. Pull that picture up.

No, you flicked them off. Pull that picture up, fellas. Pull the picture up. My hands are higher than everybody's. That's not true. I don't know why you say this. Because we have the picture, but you guys deleted that thing. No, it doesn't exist.

We have that picture, but you guys deleted it. Okay. All right. Yeah, you're speaking English. Yeah. Yeah, what you're saying makes sense. We did have it. The picture was here, and all of a sudden, you guys see it, and you saw the proof, and

you said, oh, okay, we're going to make this disappear as fast as we can. Oh, you said it didn't fit our narrative, so we said that needs to go? What do you think, we're old Twitter? You think we're old Twitter? We're not. We are not, okay? We are now all in on it. How do we feel about the X?

Throw the X up. How do we throw about it? Throw the X up. What does that mean? What does it mean? It means X, dude. It means X, dude. Whenever you have a variable that needs to change, it's X,

and the change could be anything. That's what this app is going to be. X is going to be a social media platform. Oh, dude. Whenever you have a variable that needs to change, it's X. And the change could be anything. That's what this app is going to be. X is going to be a social media platform. It's going to be a crypto arena. It's going to be a video home. It's going to be a shopping place. It's going to be a banking place. It's all going to be the same because the X can change.

You know, the X is this, the X is this, the X is that. AJ's problem is every time he tries to go to X now, he auto-populates to xvideos.com and it just keeps going there. Is that a Big Wet Butts reference? We have a little bit of an issue popping off with Lomba right now. That's happening in my ear. I just want to let everybody know that in ears is probably what this guy's been looking at whenever he goes to the X app or whatever.

How about him going down on his phone, search, and just putting X in there to find the app, and then what's popping up on AJ's phone? Twitter shows up. You can still type up Twitter. It'll pop up. Not for long, buddy. Twitter and X were battling on my phone for a while.

It was the blue with the X underneath it. And then all of a sudden, I think Twitter came back for a couple moments. And then if you open the app, they had Twitter blue and tweet and everything. They changed that today. Now it's just the word post. Yeah, post and repost. Is that not the most boring fucking answer we could have had? Can't have.

A post? Yeah. We're not going to name 41? It's ridiculous. At least it's been at least been his host bingo that'd be cool that would have been great for an x post yeah yeah anything yeah it's a little creativity a post put an x on repost i don't like it there you are because you post on ig but the x is pretty cool though i mean x is

sweet i like the logo it's link marks the spot it is pretty cool, though. The X is sweet. I like the logo. It's a link. It marks a spot. It is a pretty cool X. I don't like that they're getting rid of the light version of it. Me neither. Yeah. Did you hear about that, AJ? Light mode. I did not.

What do you mean? Yeah, all the psychopaths that use the dark mode, that just like to live in a dark screen their entire lives. Yeah, I don't like doing that. Me neither. No, no, no. I'm okay with using it. Now, we are in the minority, though.

I want to let you know. Like, right now, there's going to be people that are going to, I mean, standard, but there's going to be people that are going to attack me right now for not understanding Night Mode. I don't understand it. It was a completely different app. Like, Twitter is obviously the lighter version. That is what Twitter was. And then to have it be pitch black and it saves your eyes, it's like, okay.

Yeah, but you can take the brightness down if you need to yep like you don't need to change it everything to all black and feel like you know it just don't be a warning well well i mean just turn it off if your eyes are hurting because you're looking at twitter too much maybe you should just shut it down for a little bit bud there's some people that love it i love it yeah i'm not but if your eyes are hurting turn it off instead of going dark so it's not because your eyes are hurting, turn it off instead of going dark mode. So it's not because your eyes are hurting why you went dark mode. You just like how it's sleek.

I just like the look of it, yeah. And it's like you can do dark mode for multiple different apps. So once you, like my notes section, for instance, that is also. You're writing on a black tablet? White letters, yeah. Using chalk in there? What a woman. Yeah, basically.

Yeah, basically chalk. You're writing on cement. Yeah, exactly. Sorry. Yeah, basically chalk. You're right on cement. Yeah, exactly. Sorry. Sue me. I like to be a kid. That is a chopper's decision. You're right.

Now that we talk about it. Totally agree. But allegedly, we won't have the decision anymore. Allegedly, it's not even going to be there. Or maybe they'll let us. What time does it kick on tonight, Moe? What's that? What time does it kick on like that?

Oh, always. I don't know. It's allegedly about to happen. Who knows? Oh, the whole time. Yeah. It's going to be. That's what the. Yeah. It's going to be that's what the app is. It's going to be that. Joining us now

is a man who might have more answers. Seemingly has the answers to everything. The guy has had every single job in football, every single job in sports media, and every single job in writing. Absolute weapon of a human, an ATV all-terrain

P. Paisano. Michael Lombardi. Thank you, Pat. I have no answer. I have no answer for that question you just asked me. I have no idea, but I would like to say before we start, I was impressed with Pac-Man's 40. That was pretty special.

That was impressive. I mean, I've seen a lot of 40s in my day some good some bad but that was really good hey you're scouting this is what lambo does i got a chance to chat with him during the break a little bit and he mentioned uh he mentioned um an internet uh like golf group that i bob does sports bob does sports he mentioned it and he said hey have you seen these guys? They're awesome. He's what Lambeau said. And then he gave me a scouting report.

Like he literally was like, they got this, they got this. They kind of like this every once in a while. They have a tendency to do this, but they also got this. I think this is going to happen for them. And I'm like,

damn, like you're breaking things down, like from a scouting department brain at all times. And you said, yeah, that's how I think or whatever. So I couldn't even fathom you watching him at the age of 40 run a 4-5-1 and just start piecing things together on what his body does, what other people don't. That's a fantastic thing to think about with your brain. Yeah, I mean, it's just kind of how I was trained. So you always think strengths, weaknesses, what can you do better?

How can you make it better? You know, and watching him run at his age how I was trained. So you always think strengths, weaknesses. What can you do better? How can you make it better? You know, and watching him run at his age, that was impressive. I mean, T.O. did the same thing. I mean, there's some guys that I think people confuse the 40 time for a drill that just explains speed, right? But it's really a conditioning, too. You know, I'm sure Pac-Man will agree. You've got to be in good shape

to run a good 40 you just can't go out and just not be in good shape you've got to be a well conditioned athlete he pulled his hammy yeah he did yeah i did twice ran two 40s pulled two hammies so i think that's what you're talking about too because a lot of guys pull their hammies on 40s to your point it's like well that probably says something a little bit bigger about the whole story and everything like that I guess whenever you're trying to piece together an NFL football team you have to look at everything let's talk about that you've been in positions that Bean who was on our show before and 31 other guys are currently sitting in during this training camp what are these first couple days about and what have you learned from following

along with 32 NFL teams that has kind of surprised you thus far in training camp Mike? from following along with 32 NFL teams that has kind of surprised you thus far in training camp, Mike? Well, I think you can't overjudge this, right? I think it's, I think these kids are learning how to practice. That's the most important thing, how to practice without getting hurt. You know, during the regular season, when you go out to Wednesday or Thursday's practice, you never worry about injury, but at training camp, all you worry about is injury. And I think partly is because there's not enough time spent on how to practice and how to stay off the ground and how to not be, you know, going a thousand miles an hour against your teammate as just doing the technique the right way. So I think that's really important.

And, you know, you just don't want to overreact this time of the year. I think when you learn what to do, you play faster, right? When you are confident in what you're doing, you'll play way faster. And sometimes players are just not confident in what they're doing, so they play slower right now. And I think it's too premature. I think the one thing all 31 teams need to do is this. I think there's five or six guys on every team, all 32 teams, that right now are not ready to play.

But by November and December, they need to be ready to play. They need to make an impact on their team. And it's the job of the coaches to get them ready to fill that role. That's the one thing Walsh was so good at. We drafted Charles Haley in 86. He told Bill McPherson, he said, look, Bill, I don't want to teach him the playbook. I don't care about him learning the George Seaford's defense. I want him to rush, and I want him to be able to be a great rusher.

So all the time is spent. And that always stayed in my mind. And there's two or three guys every year that you better get ready to help your team win in December that aren't ready right now. Well, Bill McPherson, too, that guy. Oh, man. You tell him to do something, he's going to get the job done. So those guys are ready by November for sure. They didn't know the defense would lick, but they could certainly get to the passer. And that's what Bill did. You know,

whenever Bill got his hands on a guy, he'd really make things happen. But I appreciate that insight because I never even thought of that, really. There's some guys that, you know, they have the talent to be NFL guys. Right now, though, they have no fucking clue what they're doing. They might not look great in training camp and some different reps, but we do need them for a specific assignment at some point. We're going to need them. Let's start getting them ready for that now, as opposed to waiting until week six, week seven, when we're like, you know, week 13, week 14,

we're probably going to need a pass rusher if somebody goes down. Start right now. I didn't even think about that that's like the chess shit that you guys all have to do that i would never be a gm because of well i think you have to look at their schedule too right and you know if you're new england you're playing buffalo twice you got to be able to to have guys that can cover you got tack there's certain things you got to do you haven't been able to beat buffalo since the win game so you got to prepare your team and i think that's every team in the league. You know there's an obstacle that awaits you that

you've got to get over. And you've got to prepare your team for it. And you can't prepare your team the Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday before the season starts. You've got to start that in training camp. So if you're playing Philadelphia this year with Jalen Hurts in the six-pack offense, if you think you're going to get ready for them the week you play them, you're playing Philadelphia this year with Jalen Hurts and the six-back offense, if you think you're going to get ready for them the week you play them, you're crazy. That's why they scored 204 points in the second quarter. People weren't used to them. They got too much speed.

You've got to get ready for them now. And so you've got to practice that. That's part of training camp. That's what you're doing at training camp. You're getting your team ready for the season and ready for the opponent. Are you listing off the points they scored? I actually had this conversation with Steichen, right? I was like, hey, what's up?

Just trying to learn about him as a human, how his brain works. I'm like, do you have a number in mind that your offense has to get to every single game? He's like, yes, yeah, I do. And I was like, oh, okay, I just hit on something there. I feel like I just felt like, oh, all right, good start to a conversation. I feel like I'm going to learn some stuff here. Then he started breaking down.

You know, the Eagles last year were number two, I think. They averaged 29.4 points a game last year or whatever. Obviously, you're going to win a shit ton of games. You averaged 30. It's like historic elite level scoring. 28 is obviously a great goal for teams. 24, you're probably going to win a lot of games if your defense is doing its thing. But just trying to get to that number every game seems like the most basic form of trying to win but that is a seemingly a great strategy as well

bison right right and you used the right word there strategy so what one of the things the eagles did and then they go back to the walsh theory everybody thinks the west coast offense are these plays right which is true bingo cross you know hank all these plays but right? Which is true. Bingo, cross, you know, Hank, all these plays, but it's really more of a strategy. So what the Eagles did and what the Chiefs did and what has always happened over the course of Super Bowl champions, with the exception of a few times, is the teams that lead in first half point differential are the teams that win, that go to the Super Bowl. And the Eagles were number one, the Chiefs were number two. Having a 10-point lead at halftime is the most critical. So the West Coast offense philosophy is we're going to throw to get the lead,

and then we're going to run to keep the lead. And so what you want to do at halftime is you're in a mad dash to lead the game at halftime. And that's why the Eagles were so hard to defend. They got this huge lead with their second quarter production, and now you're playing from behind. So, A.J., think about that. You're the linebacker. You're calling the defense. You're down 10 points in the third quarter. You make one bad call. You have blitz zero that you don't hit, and now it's a 17-point game. The game's over. So, you cautiously play

that, whereas if you're up by 10 in the third quarter you go after the quarterback and maybe you get them maybe you don't but you're still in the lead that mentality is what really is the game today and that's what the eagles and chiefs do so well yeah so i should have asked a better question you know whenever he was talking about points maybe he was thinking like yeah overall points definitely matter you loser but first half though we need to have like 17 we need to be at 17 points in the first half, and then we kind of go. I love hearing that type of stuff because there's just so many levels to it all that my dumb ass can never really piece together. AJ obviously has something for you, Paisan.

Lomba, let's say you're Brandon Bean, and you were the GM of the Buffalo Beals right now. We just had him on, and he didn't really say too much about it with Naeem Hines' situation. He has the non-football injury, unfortunately, on a jet ski, and actually sounds like he got hit from somebody else. How do front offices tend to deal with these things when you technically don't have to pay them?

Well, I mean, you have to be classy about it. And, you know, whatever you do for one, you've got to do for all. You know, you just can't, like, line item and just say, okay, this is what we're doing. Does it matter how they got hurt, Pombo? It does matter how you got hurt. Like if it was a motorcycle accident or something else. Yeah, I mean, you know, you've got to be smart

and you've got to educate the players. Like, look, you've got to make sure they understand that this NFI list is not good for them, right? Because we can control your salary. So, you know, Hines is sitting there on a jet ski, which is not a good thing to be sitting on especially when your livelihood is dependent upon your health right because you get thrown from a jet ski so I think this is really this is what worries you the whole offseason AJ is the players

doing something that they do in normal life but they don't understand that they're they don't have a normal life right now until their career's over it's not normal yeah they've got to protect their body you know that's the thing. You get to be in the NFL. Naeem Hines is not doing anything that anybody else isn't doing, being on a jet ski. But damn, when catastrophe happens,

that's a real... I told Bean, I'm very happy I'm not in your situation because it's not only he's got precedent now for his team. Other NFL teams are also watching this all take place. Like, hey, this is kind of something that we've negotiated here. This is a whole CBA. It's a big, big deal.

I saw a lot of people saying, you know, like, hey, you better pay him his whole contract or everything like that. I assume Naeem isn't even expecting that with the way it is. But like there is a way to handle it, I think, without, you know, I think still being classy. Is that what you're saying as well? Yeah, I think you've got to be sympathetic to it. And you've got to understand it because, I mean, you can't. The salary cap forces you to have a little bit of a harder edge. But because every dollar that you give him is coming off the cap when you don't have to give him a dollar, right?

And so, but there is some human element here that has to take place and you've got to be able to handle that. And I think it's really important that you do it the right way and that you have a kind of a standard of operating procedure that it comes to this because, you know, you're going to use this as an example. Every team is going to show Naheem Hines' picture up on their first team meeting and say, here's what happened. You guys can't do this.

You're professional athletes. You can't risk this in your life or else it could cost you your career. Yeah, that is normally the MO, the modus operandi. We knew that. He's different everywhere. What will Bean do? He seems like he had empathy to the situation when he was talking to us. I guess his agent's like, I heard you talking.

Speaking of agent. But, you know, your owner's got to get involved here too, right? So your owner's got to, you know, he's got to sign off on it too, right? Because it's his coin that you're giving away. And she just came back right from her, I think it's her first game. She just came back. She was back. It was a big day in Buffalo yesterday with Terry Pagula back, you know, from her, I think it's her first game. She just came back. She was back. It was a big day in Buffalo yesterday with Terry Pagula back,

and, you know, from her tragic, I think she had a stroke. Her daughter saved her life, which was incredible. And then Hamlin walking on that field for the first time. I mean, that was a powerful time in Buffalo yesterday. Yesterday in Buffalo, obviously super powerful, positively. But think about what they've gone through off the field. Like the Naeem Hines thing being added to a list of like off field stuff that they've had to kind of battle with is like wild to think.

I think it makes your team stronger though. I think it makes your team stronger. Let's move to a topic. That's very, very close to my heart here, Lambeau. And we did change the background here. I know this is a place close to your heart.

Obviously it's the Jersey shore. Is this familiar? That's Ocean City. Yeah. That's the jersey shore here is this familiar is this that's ocean city yeah that's the flanders hotel right there that yeah absolutely right in front of that hotel every kid in ocean city learned how to swim we had a saltwater pool there it was incredible yeah that's that's ocean city at its finest no out it's the wettest driest town in the world you can't buy a drink here, but, man, there's a lot of drinking going on here. A lot of booze out there. Glory days. Glory days. You had a good time out here. We'll be singing that on April, August 18th.

I'll be singing those glory days right there at Philly Stadium, right? Citizen Bank. He'll be coming back. You know, that one-hit wonder will be coming back. Every time I saw pictures of Springsteen over in Europe with 100,000 people, I'm like, yeah, one-hit wonder. That idiot. Where is he on Twitter now?

So what happened, just so we can relive the story here, you're obviously a massive Bruce Springsteen fan, not as big of a fan as Michael Cole of the WWE, who has been to like over 100 or 1,000 of Springsteen shows. Somebody tweeted that had some sort of notoriety that Springsteen only had one hit. He didn't understand why people mattered. And you've held this against this person.

This is like two, three years now. Who was this person? And have you ever met them? I forget. I forget who the hell he was because why would I remember somebody so idiotic? Why would I,

why would I spend time worrying about that it just to me is like you know when you go to youtube and you see something powerful you know there's 10 000 thumbs up and then there's still 200 people that put thumbs down like you just like is there no making everybody happy like seriously whatever happened to that well if the boss can't nobody else can you know the boss can't who can uh speaking of making people happy the boss can't, nobody else can. Yeah, who can? You know, if the boss can't, who can? Speaking of making people happy, the boss here isn't in Indianapolis because of how he's handling publicly the Jonathan Taylor situation. Wow, Jonathan Taylor's agent who I don't necessarily understand the strategy behind his operations as well,

but I assume he has some goal or strategy in mind to make this thing all happen. And allegedly there's interest growing around the league to trade for Jonathan Taylor, although Jim Irsay has publicly said, we trade him now or October, brother. That ain't happening. And so with Jonathan Taylor, his agent, Jim Irsay, feeling as if he is the voice of the NFL now,

which is why I assume he put out that tweet about running backs and new CBAs and negotiations. And everybody said, oh, this is him taking a shot at Jonathan Taylor when I assumed Jim Irsay was just talking as a whole, but certainly involving Jonathan Taylor in that conversation. How do you feel this works out? And what are your thoughts on the point that we're at right now with this whole thing? Because he is the only person, I was at training camp,

he's the only person that has not bought in. You know what I mean? New coach, new quarterback, new building, new everything pretty much. New vibes. Everybody's kind of all in. Anthony Richardson, it's hard not to. You watch him, you're like, we got a fucking guy here who can do it. He's the only one that

is hoodie up, standoffish, not talking to anybody. It's not good. It's toxic. And if he's saying I'm not trading him, how do they get through this situation? How do you build a team with it happening? I don't know. Well, I think there's two. First of all, April 19th, he issued a statement saying he put a pen to paper.

He's all in. He's a cult. He understood what he did when he signed that contract. And then he changed agents. And now this agent has convinced him that this scorched earth mentality, this putting a kind of a face that looks like he's so unhappy that he's been treated so poorly that it's going to get him somewhere. You've got to understand in every negotiation who you're dealing with, right? You need a scouting report on everybody, right? It's like when Jesseesse bates last year said you know he's gonna hold he's gonna you know do whatever he could do you're dealing with mike brown just so

you understand that jesse like mike brown don't budge okay well now you're dealing with jim ursae who's the the crazy uncle at everybody's thanksgiving table who kind of says whatever the hell he says right you know it's like oh that's uncle joe you know that's uncle jim you know whatever he does right you're dealing with this guy. And if you're negotiating against Ursa, you know that whatever he says, he's not going to change his mind. He's worried. He said it for a reason. So if you can't go directly, this tactic isn't going to work. Now, for me, if I were Chris Ballard, here's what I would do. I would tell Jonathan Taylor, your treatment's from six to eight. You come in the building at six, you get treatment from six

to eight, you go back home. We don't want you around the team. We just want you to get better. I don't want your attitude surfacing anywhere because it's what we call the law of threes in leadership. There's three groups of people on every team. There's people in group one that'll do anything you want them to do. There's people in group two who are undecided. And then there's people in group three that you can't make happy. Taylor happens to be in group three. He's the only player on the Colts in group three. So what Steichen needs to do is focus strictly on people in group one and then just outcast the other guy and ignore him because he's got his career.

He's listening to an idiot. He's listening to his agent, right? And that's not a smart thing to do. There's smart agents and there's dumb agents just like any profession this tactic isn't smart because let's face it you're dealing with uncle jim uncle jim ursae ain't gonna budge yeah so like i don't know the agent well enough it seems like he's kind of new to like make a i mean there's some stuff coming up with like obviously we're learning a lot about this guy quickly here, but he certainly has one Jonathan Taylor over. Cause to your point, April 19th, I'm all good.

Still friends with everybody in the building, still friends with the friendly with everybody in the building. And then all of a sudden training camp, not talking to him. That's a wild thing to happen. So this guy gotta be a great talker. So that's one part of doing business. I think just pissing off one 32nd of who you're going to have to do business with if you're going to be a football agent is certainly an interesting tactic. And maybe it'll work out in the end in this whole thing.

But, like, Shane Steichen's got to be just – like, how am I supposed to fucking – Yeah. What am I supposed to – I would tell Shane just ignore it. Don't even worry about it. Look, here's the other thing. I think this agent who's so experienced, he knows everything, right? Nobody wants to take on somebody else's problems.

I'm shocked that this rumor comes out today. There's a lot of interest in trading for Jonathan Taylor. Okay, maybe that might be true. I doubt it because who wants to A, give up a draft pick, then give up a ton of money, and then deal with a guy who looks like who's who's behaving poorly like nobody wants somebody else's problem nobody just volunteers and says i'll take all your problems over here you know they got enough of their own so like you're a player you got to put things in perspective he's a great player he's a good

player last year he was not i will say last year but what j is true. Look, this league has been around a long time. There's a lot of great players. And life goes on. Just like, you know, if somebody, if he got injured, you got to move on. I get it. He's a great player. But he's not the last of the great players. And so you got to figure out a way to deal with it.

If he's not happy, you can't affect your team. You got to make sure that your team is building itself together because together is the only way we're going to win. If I die tonight, Joseph, this league will be just fine. You know, everybody's talking about, Jim's not speaking coherently during the whole thing. It's like Jim was just saying, like, yo, I am one of the owners. He's Uncle Jim.

I'm the longest owner in this league. Everybody that is an owner right now I voted on. You're welcome. I've let you into my league, pretty much. And when I die, this league don't matter. They are going to move full speed ahead. I think that was actually a pretty perceptive view

from Jim Irsay's mindset, but I still don't think he should have been the one talking about the running back negotiation situation publicly. Let some other owner do that, Jim. Have a little bit of situational awareness with what you got brewing in your own building. But I don't think that would have mattered if he puts that tweet out or not. I think Jonathan Taylor's strategy would have been the same way, seemingly. And I don't know if...

I don't know if you could call what he's doing a strategy. I think, to me, it's stupid. You're just not going to win this. Like you've got to know your opponent, right? So Muhammad Ali watched tape on George Foreman before he got to fight him over in Zaire. And he basically came to the conclusion, look, this guy's fought 40 times. He's knocked out 37 people, right? He's bigger, stronger, tougher, meaner than I am, right?

I can't – I have to do something completely different. So he roped the dope. And he said, if I can get him past the eighth round, I'm going to win the fight. He did. That's strategy. This isn't a strategy. We're just going to act so unhappy. That's not a strategy.

Like, that's stupid. One of the greatest strategies of all time. Still talked about. People don't talk about boxing strategy on a regular basis. The rope dope still talked about. Simpson, Homer made an entire fucking episode about the whole thing. You're right. There is strategy and then there isn't strategy. In this particular one, I think like acknowledging that Jim Irsay pays his people.

You know, like that's something Jim does very rarely. Now, I think Florio cited an Edrin James situation where he went to Arizona. Yeah. And Edrin and Jim Irsay, very tight. Still to this day, they're very tight. So that might have been a time, I guess, when another team was like, all right, we'll take one and pay, and you won't. But every other situation of recent history, like Jim is going to take care of, you know, I would.

He had four touchdowns last year. Zero receiving touchdowns. Eleven games, missed six of them, 800, and this is the time to do that after coming out and saying, like, I'll play. And then to, and we had a number four overall pick. Just optically to your, strategize-wise,

you're losing the public, too. Like, Colts fans love Jonathan Taylor, and then immediately, like, they're seeing it. We were no fun to watch as a football team last year. You were bad at football last year. Our team was bad at football. Now, circumstances with quarterbacks and everything, we understand. But to act now like that is, I don't know.

Publicly, it doesn't seem to be going great. Professionally, we will see. But I think there's a way to get out of this I'm remaining optimistic Pac-Man has a question for you, Lambo Lambo, let's flip over Let's flip over to the other side and go to Dallas And talk about Jerry where Martin is holding out

He got two more years on his contract We were sitting over here earlier And Jerry already came out and said what he said Do you think a deal will get done there? I know he's getting fined $50,000 a day. And this CBA, they can't, like, refer the money back to the contract. So that is real money. And guess who's getting the money?

The Cowboys, not the NFL. So do you think a deal will get done there? Or what do you think happened there? I think Zach's making a mistake. Look, I think Chris Lindstrom's contract making $20 million a year pissed Zach off, right? He's at $14 million, quitting Nelson's deal pissed Zach off. But what Jerry said is true. Micah Parsons is a unique player.

It's very rare in today's NFL that you find a guy who can line up off the ball and rush as the fourth or fifth rusher and fit in the rush, up off the ball and rush as the fourth or fifth rusher and fit in the rush and then line up a guy who lines up a defensive end and rush off the edge or run a game or run a stunt he's going to get paid now nick bosa is going to carry it because whatever they pay nick bosa they're going to pay micah so it's going to kind of wash itself out and jerry's right you can't pay everybody he's got dac over there making all this money so hey the CBA this CBA was written you know I'm old enough to remember the days man these Dak low lights Lambeau that are getting out there right now I know I know I saw them but you know until they're you know and sometimes you got to temper that you don't know what's going on but I will say this when I first started

in the league holdouts were valuable Players held out and accomplished a lot. There was no real way of getting your – nobody shared information. They didn't know the salaries. This CBA is built to not have holdouts. That's why we have more hold-ins than we have holdouts. So to just give away 50 grand is not a smart play. I think Zach's a great player. But when the owner comes out and says what he does, again,

who are we negotiating with? We're negotiating with Jerry. And so we're going to have to figure this out. That's just like a wild thing because Jerry and Jim, they're big. Our league's not going to become NBA. Our league is our league. That's the key point right there. That is what I think is the underlying. See, I think some of the

NFL players think they can behave like NBA players, and they miss the point where these owners are not NBA owners, right? These 32 guys that sit in that room, they sit in that room, they're a different than, you know, do you think that the NFL, we only play 17 games,

but you think they would let guys miss as many games or have D not play? No, of course not. That would be awesome. I think you've got to understand that. That would be awesome to watch that. Now, granted, I do believe if they had an 18th game, I think there will be some G games that older players, maybe,

you know, if they're going through something, we will hold out of like week 13 game, week 14 game. We're like two weeks out. we're in a good spot if they were to add another game i think like if you're a good team i mean if you're in the middle of a playoff hunt fucking you're playing you're playing get your ass but see i i think this game thing is wrong i would take this approach if i were in the players union i would say i would i would try to get okay we played 16 games.

And Quinton Nelson played all 16 games for the Colts. And he played 1,050 plays. Okay, so 16 games, you play 1,050 plays. That's the most amount of plays he can play if we go to 17 games or if we go to 18 games. That's the most he can play. And it becomes the coaches have to develop players to fill in and manage that 1050 plays it's really about plays it's not about games right it's about how many plays are you playing i would be pissed if you told me oh now you can't play we got week 20 week well no i would say pac-man i would rotate you through you through. Yeah, but what about week 20?

What if he's got 35 plays left? Yeah. He's got 35 plays. And then they're going to be – all they're going to be in the fourth quarter, we've got to win the goddamn game. I'm not 100% in on that one, but I do know that there's going to be definite more games at some point as the money tree continues to grow for the NFL.

And I don't think they're going to be giving over power to anybody either, the NFL owners. No. You like it here? No. Are the ratings going up? Is the salary cap going up? Are you guys getting paid more money than you've ever been paid?

Are people still loving our league more than everybody else? Yep. Okay, sounds good. What do you want? And then we'll move on. They have the ability to say that right now because of how good things are going with the NFL. But I do hope this next CBA does have

a little bit more player advantage at some point in some say of the game, but who knows if that's ever going to be possible. We have a couple questions for the boys, then we got to let you go, Lombo. Back to that Jersey Shore. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Lombardi, a friend of the show and someone that I've grown to love, Dan Orlovsky,

kind of threw something out this morning and it wasn't that he – He just kind of pissed me off, Connor. No, no, no. This is the – Come on. No, I'm not. Hey, this is the one actually to piss you off, I think.

Yes. Which is why I'm so excited that Connor's doing this right now. Yeah, and it is a real kind of idea in Lombardi. I don't want you – He didn't say Orlov – Excuse me. He didn't say Springsteen was a one-ombardi. I don't want you, you know, he didn't say, or excuse me, he didn't say Springsteen was a one-hit wonder. I don't think at least. Maybe he has in the past.

You should check that out. But he said this morning that, you know, with where the NFL is right now, that there is a chance that, you know, the 35, you know, passing touchdowns season isn't going to be enough to get it done in the MVP, you know, voting, and that there are going to be a lot of different guys and quarterbacks that have those kind of stats that now there's going to be a different factor you know in the mvp awarding it's not just going to be strictly based off stats but it also be part of an eye test so he threw out there you know justin fields he he's probably going to win you know he's probably going to win. What's your problem, Lambeau?

You're not even listening. I'm listening. Listen, Lambeau. Justin Fields in the eye test is one of, if not the most impressive guy in the entire NFL in that if he were to throw 35 touchdown passes

and rush for another 10-12 that he would be the runaway MVP. Do you think to throw 35 touchdown passes and rush for another 10, 12, that he would be the runaway MVP. Do you think that Roger Goodell is going to call him today and say, you know what, that's genius, that's how we'll judge the MVP going forward? Or do you think that even the idea of a lot of guys in the NFL having that type of success is possible? Well, it violates a code of code for me.

The MVP is about winning. What player leads his team who's most valuable to his team and helps his team win, right? What does that? Accumulating stats is wonderful. That's great, right? But I'm sure if you ask Warren Moon if he could trade all those stats that he accumulated for a title, he would say, I'd rather have the title. And so like 30, 35 touchdowns and I win the AFC and I represent, I have the number one seed and I have this season. Yeah. But if you just want to measure players on individual ability, look, I don't know what game Dan's why I went back and watched all five games of Justin Fields at the end of the year. They're down 31-7 against Detroit, and they're still running the ball.

Like, they averaged eight less passes than the Colts did last year per game, and they both were down. I mean, they averaged 22 passes. Oh, I know he's got DJ Moore. Look, I think it's unfair to put this pressure on Justin Fields. I think let him get good first before we start talking about MVP. Like, it's hard for him to complete passes. Like, can we just go through it? Like, when we watch the Detroit game.

He's burying Ohio State right now. Greeny, too. Greeny's going to be crushed. Well, Greeny said there's a chance that he's the next superstar. And I think Greeny said it because of what Dan was saying. And then, obviously, the entire getup became like, they had me believe it. I'm like, hey, you know what?

I agree with that thing. I would love to watch a tape with them and explain to them and watch it. Like, you tell me. I don't give a crap what the QBR says. Like, I'm watching the tape. All right. All right, Lomba. We appreciate the hell out of you. I can't wait to see

what Justin Fields does. It's been a great conversation. I can't wait either. I just think we've got to temper the conversation. The guy's not going to go from 2,200 yards, 91 sacks, a zillion turnovers, and all of a sudden become the MVP of the league. That just don't happen.

It just don't happen. Thank you for the reality. We appreciate you the MVP of the league. That just don't happen. It just don't happen. All right, Lobo. Thank you for the reality. We appreciate you. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael LaVarne. Thanks, guys. And joining us in studio.

What? Live in the Thunderdome. Hell yeah. There's a man that was born and raised here in Indiana. He's something of an absolute hero here in Indiana. Because, you know, Indiana is the home of the Indianapolis 500, but it's also home to a lot of racing. So whenever these are little kids here, you know who your heroes are?

Who's that? Fucking race car drivers. That's damn right. Before Peyton Manning got here, it was not a football town. No, no. It was a racing town and a basketball town. So a lot of young racers come up through Indiana. And one that came up through the

Indiana racing system that went on to not only win the IndyCar Series. What? He's going to win the NASCAR Cup Series three times. What? And on August 30th, I do believe, in Brownsburg, Indiana, this motherfucker's going to be drag racing too.

If it has an engine in it, he wants to race it. And he's not just going to race it. He's going to win it. Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Smokester. Did I accurately describe that, though, about Indiana? I'm from Pittsburgh, so when I came out here, it was a little bit of a culture shock. They love racing out here. And it is a thing that little kids do all the way up through.

It is a career path, right? That is a fact. You either were born with a steering wheel in your hand or a basketball in your hand in this state until Peyton Manning came around. How's your jumper? Pretty good or no? I'm terrible. Okay, but you have a steering wheel.

And Bird lives about five miles from me down by Columbus. He's got his Eagle Ranch, and then I've got Hidden Hollow Ranch. Cabela's. We're pretty close. Yeah, Cabela's down there. Hold on, hold on. You're talking about this. That's my place.

Yes. Yeah, we found out about this, I think, like a year ago. It went up for sale, I believe. And we said, or it hit the internet. Maybe they were describing it. And we said, who the fuck lives in this place? They're like, Tony Sparks, sir. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. There's like a fishing pond in the middle of this thing, right? It's got a pond and a big tank inside. Hey, you've done good, man. Wow. Like a small bass pro. Yeah, yeah. There's like a fishing pond in the middle of this thing, right? It's got a pond and a big tank inside. Hey, you've done good, man. Wow. Like a small bass pro. Yeah, you've done good. You have done good with your life.

You should be incredibly proud. Let's dive into the convo we just had right there. So you're the only guy, I believe, to have Cup Series championships in both IndyCar and in NASCAR. Congratulations, man. Thank you. Let's go. IndyCar, they're going 230. Almost 230 now, yeah.

230 miles an hour. Different style of racing. NASCAR going 199. Right. About 200, right? Yep. So two different speeds. F1 going, what are they doing?

I think the fastest they go is like 190, 185, 190. I want to let you know just as a this is not even me taking a stand for Indiana, now that I'm an Indiana resident and everything like that. My wife and her family are massive IndyCar fans. That F1 thing, I don't understand how people like it. It is so fucking boring.

It is. You probably can't say you don't want to start up. You're probably raced over there or going to go race over there. But I don't like that style of racing. I enjoy IndyCar. I enjoy NASCAR. But what you're about to do here in a few weeks in Indianapolis, and I think you have a couple cars in, this drag racing shit's the real deal. Obviously, we used to watch a show where pink slips were up for grabs.

And Fast and Furious had this thing happen. But I used to live on the west side of Indianapolis in Brownsburg where this drag strip is. We got these fucking things going like 300. How fast are these things going? Yeah, both the top fuel and funny cars run over 330. Damn. These dudes are strapping them. And ladies.

A lot of women drivers. A lot of lady drivers. My wife drives this car. What? 300 and what? 330. 330 miles. Strapping themselves in.

Okay? Strapping themselves. How many Gs? How many Gs is that? Six G-forces positive when they leave, and then when they hit the chutes, it's negative six and a half Gs. Jeez, my God. You got 12 G-force swing.

So how do we get that? So I know, like, good old boys. I think if you go back to NASCAR beginnings, I think they're trying to soup it up for moonshine to kind of get the cars to outrun the cops and everything like that. But I feel like all these racing go-karts even we got four of them outside hey we're gonna fucking smoke smoke yeah y'all get it out of your system now because i'm gonna annihilate your ass just saying it's gonna it's gonna take all of you to stop me just saying

no we're just trying not to get laughed at. That's the goal. The goal is to try not to get laughed at. I'm 255, too. I feel like I got quite disadvantaged, but I did tell them to, heh, heh, just a little bit. And they can do that because I believe most of this racing, and correct me if I'm wrong,

is literally just like good old boys that enjoy building engines. Like, how did we start getting to a point where we're strapping humans to race cars that are going 330 miles an hour? And how often is this happening? And, like, I watched one in Ohio. There's one in Indianapolis. How many of these NHRA events are kind of taking place?

And what all... This is terrible to ask, but, like, 330 miles an hour, humans, there's a lot that can go wrong. Is that how... Very accurate. Okay, good. Very accurate. No, there's 22 national events across the country i'm racing in pennsylvania this weekend with a regional series so there's seven regions in the country

nhra has four pro divisions they have top fuel funny car pro stock and pro stock bike and then all the other divisions are technically sportsman divisions so i run the top alcohol dragster class. Top Fuel and Funny Car only run 1,000 feet. So they're running 330-plus mile an hour in 1,000 feet. My class is the same style of car, different motor configuration, runs a full quarter mile and only runs 280 miles an hour. Oh, yeah, you're like, you're going so slow. You're an embarrassment. Yeah, well, if you listen to the Q&As, there's women that go,

well, what's it feel like that your wife drives faster than you? Yeah, so your wife is a boss at 330 miles an hour. She's going faster than you've ever been, right? True, but she can only do it for three and a half seconds. I can do it for three and a half hours. Woo! Come on. Good shoot!

Yeah! Hell yeah! I've seen these internet ads. Got the algorithm doing its thing. So you would just Race whatever Did you grow up Racing go-karts

And then Kind of come up Through the whole process And why did you Make the jump From IndyCar To NASCAR When you did

And why are you In the NHRA now Has this always Been a hobby So it was I started in go-karts At eight I raced for

A local company In Greenfield, Indiana Comic cart sales Mark Dismore Who was my teammate In IndyCar That's the carts That are outside right now Yeah Oh ain't that convenient field indiana comic cart sales mark dismore who was my teammate in indycar uh the first year carts that are outside right now yeah oh ain't that convenient

you might do some shit they might do some shit but you're starting go-karts right yeah graduated high school and started moving up um i ran a new sack which is based out of the west side of indianapolis and Speedway, the United States Auto Club, and ran Sprint Cars, Midgets, Silver Crown Cars, and then got an opportunity at the, literally within a month of each other, to drive for a NASCAR team and an IndyCar team. And luckily, the IndyCar series only had five races the first year. The stock car team was willing to let me do both. And then at the end of 96, Joe Gibbs hired me. I went two more years in NASCAR's Xfinity Series and then went to the Cup Series in 99. And that's where all the

money was at that time, right? NASCAR had a big jump. That was like the premier thing. Now, is it just kind of communicated about NASCAR, IndyCar, F1, all these different leagues? It's just like, that's kind of what everybody's shooting for? Or is there like certain styles of driving that you knew you weren't going to be able to do? Yeah, I think it's more, honestly, it depends on what you want to do. And, you know, kids and parents are training their kids early. They get them down a path. You either want to go IndyCar racing or you want to go NASCAR racing or you want to go drag racing.

Oh, this is happening in racing. It's happening in sports too. Yeah. Where it's like specialty training and you don't really get to diversify of it all. That's exactly right. It's kind of bullshit happening in sports. I assume it sounds like that in racing too. It is, but we got guys like

Kyle Larson who come from the dirt track ranks and run sprint cars all the time and he's awesome in cup, but he comes back and he runs dirt late models and dirt sprint cars. We need to keep him out of the sim. But he is back and he runs dirt late models and dirt sprint cars. We need to keep him out of the sim. You know, we need to keep him out of the sim. But he is an incredible driver.

Incredible. Have you always just been a better driver than everybody else? Like in go-karts, there was like a thing whenever you were in there? I don't know. I learned I was too lazy to work a real job at a young age. So I figured I had to be good at something. So are you more courageous? Why do you think you over other people when it comes to the driving game? I don't know.

I honestly don't have a good answer for that. I did my deal, and I didn't worry about what everybody else did. We just did it our way. We stuck to our program. Even when we won, we always tried to figure out how could we have done it better. And I think that's what really— So you just love racing? Yeah, absolutely.

Fucking love racing. Man, that number 20 Home Depot fucking flying around that track. Those were good days then. Six to midnight right there. Yeah. You pooping in that suit? No. Peeing?

No. Occasionally you had to. Got to let go. It's not like they can say, hey, there's a rest area a mile down the road. We're going to stop for five minutes. We'll be right back. Yeah, that's not fun. My bladder's active too.

I think that's why I probably wasn't a driver, if I had to guess. I'm 255. That's way too big to be a driver. So my driver that drives this car is 255. That's hurting you guys, isn't it? Isn't that hurting you guys? Doesn't that hurt in racing? Well, a little bit.

Hey, bud. But he's good. He's won three world championships, so I'm going to say he's all right. Maybe it helps. Maybe the momentum. Maybe I'm at the advantage today with these go-carts. Was John Forrest a big boy kind of in there? He's not near as big as my guy is.

My guy, like literally, you paint my guy green, he is the Incredible Hulk. See, that's what I'm talking about, though. He's 255, right? Big guy. He's a man. But in racing, that is huge. Yeah, that's way big for a race car driver. Most people kind of got to be born to be a driver, right?

You want to be small to be a good- And you got to have huge gut sack though. Like you got to, death at every single corner. When you started, they didn't even have the brain, head, helmet stability thing, right? Nope. No head and neck restraints, no containment seats that came all the way around. It was a lot more simple and primitive back then. around. It was a lot more simple and primitive back then. But I mean, the safety side of it,

our sport, both in NHRA, IndyCar, NASCAR, has come a long way in the last 10 years. I know AJ has like a thousand questions for you. I just had a motor off mine. I'm so pumped to be chatting with you. What do you got, AJ? Tony, I'm curious if there's anything you haven't raced yet, any kind of vehicle, a boat, maybe the Red Bull air racing situation that you haven't got into that you might in the future. It's funny you bring that up because I got a chance to drive the funny car at IRP here about a month ago or a month and a half ago. And we were trying to figure out what cars have I, we started with what have I driven? Then we got frustrated and said, it's going to be a lot easier just to try to find the list of cars I haven't. And it's not been very much. I said, it's going to be a lot easier just to try to find the list of cars I haven't. Yeah. And it's not been very much. I mean, southeast corner of Indianapolis has the Speed Room.

They do the World Figure Eight Championships there. The school buses, right? Isn't there a school bus race, too? Well, they do school buses as well, but they got tricked out late models that are Figure Eight cars that haul ass around there. That's an accident, right? Yeah. T-bone. Absolutely.

Yeah, it has to happen. And I've broke my back four times already. I'm like, eh. They're signing up for the T-bone race. Maybe we skip that Yeah. T-bone. Absolutely. Yeah, it has to happen. And I broke my back four times already. I'm like, eh, maybe we skip that one. They're signing up for the T-bone race. Yeah, we might skip that one. And Swamp Buggies in Florida, that's the other division we haven't ran yet. So what are you waiting on? What's the deal?

I don't know. I don't want to get upside down in a car and get stuck in, and I can't breathe. So that choking with water thing is not a good deal. Yeah, but from what I just learned just from quick talking to you, I don't think you have that. You know what I mean? Because you were racing back in the day before because it was Earnhardt, right? That changed the entire

scene of the whole thing. I watched that documentary. I think McGee did it. He did, yeah. Brian McGee did the documentary. I watched that whole thing. You guys just kind of understood that this could happen at any given moment. That was before there was even the, what's the barriers that aren't on the track? Safer barriers, yeah.

On the styrofoam and fiber emergency something. I forget what it's called. Because they just raced in a place that didn't have it. And McGee was pissed, remember? Yeah. He was so mad about it. Back in the day, you guys were just like daredevils pretty much. Well, they did as much as they knew they could do at the time.

But then after Dale's senior's accident, everybody really put a lot of focus on making sure, how do we keep this from happening again? And there were guys getting killed in race cars. I mean, it's always been that way. Scary sport. But every decade, the amount of guys that die in race cars keeps getting smaller and smaller, and the injuries are smaller and smaller. I mean, you still have big injuries.

You still have guys getting paralyzed. You have guys that have brain trauma. But the amount of opportunities and the amount of times that that happens keeps getting smaller and smaller, and the sport keeps getting safer and safer. And it's across the board. It's not just NASCAR, not just IndyCars, sprint cars, NHRA drag racing. Everybody put a full-court press on how do they take the cars in their series and find a way to make it safer

to keep these drivers from being hurt. How old are you? 52. So what? You look good. Thanks. Yeah. Smoke looks good. Smoke does look good right now. Hey, you've been using lies and, you know, good lotioning. What does slow you

down? Because old drivers are terrible. We all see them on the road. Sure. We're all pushing for a new driver's test at a certain age. I think everybody who's on the road is pushing for that. For you, you can drive forever? What would stop you from racing cars, you think? I don't know.

That's what I like about drag racing. My class runs a quarter mile in 5.2 seconds. So I can get semi-banged up the night before and be in good enough shape to run five seconds. A three-hour cup race, maybe not so much. A five-second race, the only thing you've got to do is you've got to do everything correctly. You've got to do all the procedure right, the cadence of how you do the whole routine, but you better be ready when those lights turn on.

You better be ready to go because when that light changes, you can win it or lose it on that tree. Yeah, we're going to need an IV this morning. Last night's coming a little harder than it has in the past. Ty, I have a question for you. Smoke? Smoke, back when you were running NASCAR, you were a household name. So if someone who wasn't really a fan of NASCAR, they knew who Tony Stewart was.

They knew who Jeff Gordon stewart was they knew who jeff gordon was and you know then jimmy johnson it seems like nowadays that really isn't the case anymore do you think nascar in general is like deeper now and do you think we'll ever get to a point again where we'll have multiple drivers where even if you're not a fan of the sport like you you know you have that celebrity status like are we ever going to get back to that point with nascar is it kind of hurt by F1's explosion and how popular IndyCar is now? Man, NHRA might be off, dude. I didn't know you guys were going 335 miles an hour. Yeah, it's great.

I honestly think it's because of how young everybody is in NASCAR. It's like when an 18-year-old kid is, you know, when they're trying to drive in the truck series, they're 15 years old, they can run the short tracks. When your mom or dad has to drive you to the race shop, it's hard for people in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s. How do you rally around that? I sat there and tried to tell them. I'm like, when was the last time all of you went to a high school football game? Nobody raised their hand. I said, because nobody,

unless your kid's playing, you don't go to a high school football game. So why are we putting 18-year-olds in these cars and expecting the fans to go, that's my guy? The kid just got his damn diploma. He doesn't have life experiences. He hasn't had sleep in his car on the side of the road because he couldn't afford a hotel room in between two nights of racing. These kids don't have these experiences. That's where I think we've hurt ourselves in the sport of trying to keep pushing these kids younger and younger and younger. We've got 14, 12-year-old kids trying to drive sprint cars now.

I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah, you've got to earn, right? You've got to earn. Well, not only that, but think about the safety side of it. A 12-year-old kid, his body's not mature. His body's growing and developing. You take a hard hit. Those ones are dangerous, too, right? Because I used to, you know, here in Indiana, there's a lot of sprint car tracks are everywhere.

And obviously obviously I lived actually five minutes from that thing. I heard, I don't know if you were doing it at the time, but y'all motherfuckers practiced late night going into that thing. You know what I mean? Some of us are trying to sleep. Like all the racers, some of us are trying to sleep. Fairly sanitary.

These guys are not sanitary. These guys that drive these cars are nuts. And they don't care about what time you these cars are nuts. Yeah, well, not only... And they don't care about what time you're going to sleep. Bingo. Those things are... It is. But it's only for five seconds.

Yeah, which is even worse. Just roll over. Well, then you're... Whoa, holy shit. So what is going on inside? And then you get going and... And then... Something went wrong, obviously.

I can't win with it. You start judging these fuckers, and it's a whole thing, but it is a shot of adrenaline I couldn't even fathom. You chasing that for the rest of your life, you think? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. Because I'll go like 80 on the street. I'm like, false.

That was sweet. Oh, shit. Hands going low. I drive my motor home at 90. Jesus. So you are like one of those professional drivers that, because the standard going low. Driving, this is like such a... I drive my motor home at 90. Jesus. So you are like one of those professional drivers that, because the standard answer that always happens in like radio shows, whenever they talk about...

Like, no, I don't drive that fast. What's in your garage? Yeah, there we go. Honestly, I drive a Ford Raptor pickup truck. Everywhere. Oh, dog. So awesome. Everywhere.

What do you do? Just fucking go out there, fish on the back of the Ford Raptor? Actually, I shot a deer off the hood of the Raptor this winter. Just standing on it? I mean, I am from southern Indiana. We do some pretty stupid shit down there. Yeah, well, I've actually been down there. Yeah, I've done some dumb shit down there for sure.

I had a good time, though. If you went down there, you had to do dumb shit because that's what everybody's doing. Yeah, I was trying to get peer pressured in there, but I don't know if all of it is considered dumb. It's just a different way to have fun, I do and smoke we appreciate you stopping by we got to get our race started outside i cannot wait for that hey if you if you rigged this thing which it sounds like you did because the guy you raced with in high school was the one who brought the carts here yeah messed up we don't know that for sure we just saw i just saw the logo on the side of whatever whoever's trailers out there i just saw the company's name that's

what you just it's you knew i didn't see anybody out there i knew let's put it that way oh we'll find out in a minute when we get outside so what would your your advantage be though you just understand you'll be able to pick up this track quicker than we would be able to what like you're driving on the road well my first thing is i'm going to get an advantage on weight so i'm 175 pounds so i'm going to get a weight advantage second thing is i'm going to get an advantage on weight. So I'm 175 pounds, so I'm going to get a weight advantage. Second thing is I'm going to know how to apex the corners and how to open my entry up, how to make the corner as big as I can to carry the most speed I can. We're going to learn that.

We'll watch a YouTube video. We'll watch a YouTube video. When you're driving on the streets, are you an aggressive driver? Overly. Okay, so all the other drivers are like, no, that's scary. I'm scared to drive with you guys on the track. I feel comfortable. You're like, no.

I desperately wish that Ford would come out with a new Raptor with like a plow on the front of it. Like on a train or like a snow plow. And when the old people are in the left-hand lane sitting there reading their phones or whatever they're doing. Yeah, they should not be doing that. Yeah, take them out.

Yeah. And flip them over. Hey, they got flying cars coming soon. I can't wait to see what you do with those. Can't wait to see what you do with those. I'll figure something out. Did you go down to that regatta down there? Where was that here in Indiana?

Oh, yeah. Where that boat did that backflip. You know the regatta that happens here in Indiana? Madison. Madison, yeah. Did you see? Are you ever going to race those boats to AJ's question? No. Don't fuck with water. Doesn't have enough

wheels on it. Smart. How about two wheels? Not enough wheels. Perfect. All the time. They got it figured out. Whenever they do that, everything else is fuckery. We appreciate the hell out of you. Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Smokes Stewart.

Alright. That has is fuckery. We appreciate the hell out of you. Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Smokester. Alright, that has been my anniversary. August 1st, 2023. Can't wait to get outside and race against Smoke. We appreciate you taking time. Big shout out to Michael Lombardi for joining us, Brandon Bean for joining us, AJ obviously

had a great day, and Pac-Man Jones back in studio. It's been a glorious day. It's going to be an incredible evening. Thank you to the boys. You did great. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change their life.

Goodbye.