The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 948 - Pete Thamel, General Bob Carpenter, Adam Thielen, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 7, 2023

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything that happened in a crazy sports weekend including Jake Paul v. Nate Diaz, the baseball fight heard round the world, the US Women's National Team getting bounced from the World Cup earlier than they ever have, Messi's continued dominance, and much more. Joining the progrum to break down everything happening in college football including Washington and Oregon joining the Big Ten; Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah joining the Big 12, what it means for college football and what realignments might come next (13:56-44:15). Later, 18th pick of the 2006 NFL Draft, college football legend, the man who saved college football, The General Bob Carpenter joins the show to give his thoughts on what's happening with college football, to make a big announcement for the upcoming season, and chat about Dan Campbell and the Lions (1:35:39-1:50:00). Later, 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, WR for the Carolina Panthers, Adam Thielen joins the show to chat about how things have been going thus far in Carolina, his relationship with Bryce Young, his expectations for this year, his thoughts on "Quarterback," playing for a new franchise, and much more (1:58:14-2:26:39). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Overreaction Monday, August 7th, 2023, this sports program starts right now. Football! It's kind of happening, isn't it? A little bit. We've got training camps all around the NFL that are open for business. We've got hard knocks coming tomorrow night. We got mic'd up segments happening all around the country that are electrifying and allowing us to remind ourselves that we are just 31 days away from NFL football. Now, 31 days is one month. Now, it's one of those months that's up here.

Whenever you're talking 28 days, 31 days, 29 days, 30 days, whatever. 31 is a long month, The longest month we have. Unless there's like one of those leap years. I assume that there's a... Yeah, I think 31. 31's the most. 31 is max depending on how you count the days. Leap year of 29 instead of

28, so they add on to the smallest is what I was just told. Anyways, longest month we know since what? The Mayans? Yeah, probably. Away from football happening. The Detroit Lions. Jared Goff looks unbelievable right now. He's throwing out some Amon Ross, St. Brown, and Jame-O Williams

right in a dot, a spot that nobody else can touch. Here's one clip. Ah, ah, to Amon Ross, St. Brown. Oh, is this the same clip? It's not. Different wide receiver, what? Same outcome. Brown. Oh, is this the same clip? It's not. Different wide receiver, what? Same outcome. Bang.

They need to just run that play 15 times every single drive. Nobody's stopping that particular play. Hell yeah. Unless you got somebody out there, and then they're taking on the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City Chiefs are the Kansas City Chiefs. They got El Travedor right now with his mustache being the greatest tight end in history.

Patrick Mahomes, fresh off a star-making quarterback series that just launched about a month ago. We are in for greatness 31 days from now. Until then, we'll talk about all the shit happening off the field. We'll talk about all the shit happening around sports world. This was a massive weekend. Massive weekend. Just

post 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on Saturday, like a thousand things happened before you were able to wake up on Sunday. We'll cover it all today. Now, we have Pete Thamel, the authority on college football, joining us in about 15 minutes. That is the news of the day. What's happening in college football with the new conference realignment, with teams saying, hi-ya, to the Pac-12 and going to the Big Ten and to the Big 12. The Big Ten now has 18 teams in it, at least. That is where they're at right now. The Big 12 has 16 teams in it, or 17 teams in it. 16.

16 teams in it. Teams are moving now. We got new conferences. We still have some rivalries. We still have a lot of rivalries. There's a couple that have been kind of mismanaged and moved, but right now college football is in a transition era that I don't think we've ever seen before.

We obviously have the expanded playoff coming in a couple years as well, which is certainly looming over the head of all of these chancellors and presidents that are trying to make the decision on where their schools should go. But most of it all comes down to the TV money. That's right. Where's the money at? Now we're blaming, faulting college football athletes at least, and I'm assuming college basketball players are getting the same thing,

for going into the transfer portal and chasing the dollar. Hey, where's the NIL money at the best? Well, boom. I played great here. If I go into the portal, somebody might have even more money for me to go somewhere else. You know, it's real capitalism taking place in the middle of college football. And the players had a lot of shit talked about a lot of them. Oh, whenever times

are tough, you just go into the transfer portal. You're not going to be able to build up any mental toughness, any grit. Not going to have any perspective of what life is actually like. When you're not necessarily the star, you have to work a little bit. You don't just transfer out of there, go somewhere else, take another payday. You're going to need these

lessons whenever you go. Now what are the colleges doing? Yeah, same thing. Time gets tough. The Pac-12, George Klyakov. I met this guy. I had dinner with him. Good guy. Seemingly good guy. Terrible negotiator, though. Pac-12's commissioner is really the one that all

fingers are being pointed at at this exact moment, because although he was promising a new television deal to all the Pac-12 members, it wasn't until he met with Apple here in like the last week or so that all the teams and schools found out it's like 22 million a school and also, RevShare.

Yeah. Not too bad. Get people to download, just like Methi's doing, just like podcasters do. Oh yeah. Here's a link, have them subscribe, buy in, and then you'll get a piece of it. And all the schools in the back are like, motherfucker, that's not a good deal.

Everywhere else is getting like $40-50 million guaranteed. No sign-ups included. They're lucky they're getting live football on their particular platform. And the Pac-12's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're able to get however much money you want. Flood timeline with downloads. Send emails. Get these links out here. Do your whole thing.

And all the Pac-12 schools that are worth a fuck were like, see ya. And now the Big Ten's reaping a benefit. Big 12's reaping a benefit. What is the ACC going to do? The ACC's in one of the worst deals of all time. We're talking about a terrible, terrible, terrible deal that it's taking place. So the Big Ten has deals with NBC and CBS.

So the amount of money they're getting per year right there, boom, huge. That is massive. Congrats to them. All the way until the year's 2030, Big Ten navigated the TV rights deal in beautiful fashion. Now, did NBC get what they thought they were getting? I don't know if they're ever going to say that. The SEC, 811. That's through ESPN.

And the SEC network. Big 12 with Fox, 380 million per year. ACC, 240 million per year through 2036 seven schools in the acc have allegedly got their lawyers to look into the deal to see if they can get the fuck out of this particular deal as they're seeing a billion dollars here 800 here and these deals are ending before this deal ends yeah they locked in a long-term deal they're like we're gonna be able to get 240 million dollars for the next 15 years we take this deal ends. They locked in a long-term deal. They're like, we're going to be able to get $240 million for the next 15 years. We take this deal.

Sign me up. $240 million. That's a lot of money. You guys are going to sneeze at $240 million. And then here we are in 2023, and the Big Ten's like, you should start sneezing. The SEC's like, ha-ha, bless you. The Big 12, same thing. The ACC allegedly in a little turmoil.

We'll talk to the authority, Pete Dam, in about 12 minutes on all of this and Pac-12 being dead for the foreseeable future, which is a shame. We don't like that. Now, Grant, I grew up in Pittsburgh. I live in Indiana. We're on the East Coast time zone.

So I do appreciate Pac-12 late night. Oh, yeah. Really appreciate Pac-12 after dark. But now there's a chance that we're going to see maybe some Big Ten schools having the after dark. A little bit more prominent names probably going in there. A lot of travel for Big 12, Big Ten schools. But I believe, you know, this is just the beginning.

Yeah, this entire thing. We'll talk to Pete and see what that is. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Conner, at Boston Conner's Mullet, and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Dad! Cowboys turn diggers here, fresh out of a Zach Brown bank. All right. Don't like that Zach came to out of a Zach Brown bank. All right.

Don't like that Zach came to Indiana on a Sunday. Don't love that. Yeah, I didn't love that either. Didn't love it, but you had to go represent the show. We appreciate you and Mitt were there. Mitt was on 150 milligrams, he said. You were there having a good time as a DD.

I appreciate that. How was the show? How was the program? You looked good. It was awesome. They put on a great show every single time. There's, what, like 20 musicians in that band, they they all are awesome uh he played the hits which i always respect uh every single time every hit off of every album he played two hour show was perfect

is that why you're wearing that particular cap right there you you feel like i did this morning i did i couldn't have the zach brown sweatshirt on with a cowboy hat it didn't feel right he doesn't wear cowboy hats no you wear super cool hats like you do. It was cool of you to dress up like him today. Yeah, hey, you know, I seen this guy play last night. I'm gonna be him tomorrow. I said, Tony, anybody recognize you there last night? You know, I like to ask the boys whenever they're out and about, you know, how are you feeling? What's

it like? A lot of people taking photos. Tony said, a lot of people say I look like Zach Barone. Okay. Go, Tony. Tony's pretty fun about it. He's pretty jocked. Very jocked. One woman walked by me and said, are you just obsessed with him or are you related to him? I said, I'm fucking easy. Related?

Hey, it's better that people are saying you look like Zach than what people are saying you look like before. Yeah, a couple years ago. Yeah, very, very much so. You were very upset about something. Who was it before? A local comedian here named Chris Bowers. Oh, that's right.

Chris Bowers is who Tony was said to be. Spitting image. Spitting image, yeah. And there was a time there where Bowers. That's right. Chris Bowers is who Tone was said to be. Spitting image. Spitting image, yeah. And there was a time there where Bowers, everything he said to Tone was, you know how many people say we look exactly like? And Tone was not happy about it. No, he wasn't. I don't know.

I don't know. Tone, every time, this guy just said we look alike again. We don't. That's nice. You need to tell me I don't look alike. I'm like, you guys are kind of. I can see it. Yeah, you know. Like brothers. Beautiful cheeks. Yeah, I get it.'t look. I'm like, you guys are kind of... I can see it. Yeah, you know.

Like brothers. Beautiful cheeks. Yeah, I get it. Great look, good personality. Exactly. Anyways, Bowers has got a lot of time on this morning. We hope that Bowers is good. But this college football shit's a real deal.

We'll dive into it in about nine minutes. Let's talk about everything else that happened around the sports world this weekend. We'll try to do it as quickly as possible. Baseball is awesome. Yeah, it is. Hell yeah. Hey, listen. Tim Anderson wanted it. he's the one that

threw the glove down first and actually got into a full rock them sock them we are fisticuffing yeah right here at second base in the middle of this mlb game and to ramirez's credit he's kind of started you know he kind of pushed him a little disrespect but then tim anderson was like is it this is what we're doing then we're're not doing a little pushy-shovey. We're not doing a little disagreement here on whether or not I tagged you too hard and you didn't appreciate it. If you want to do that, we're going sticks, gloves,

and then we're going sweaters. That was, hey, we're fighting. Ramirez. I've seen some photos of him with some boxing gloves on his hands and some other things like that. I have never seen a no-look slap punch inside a palm. Inside a palm, slap punch okay inside a palm yeah inside a palm slap

punch hit a button more clean yeah you know whenever you're like a kid and you go to like a uh a carnival or something they have that dunk tank yep yep and you know that i feel like the button is the same way as that dunk tank thing where if you hit it off the edge it kind of goes but not enough right but if you hit that right in the middle, whoever, right in. That feels like it was just a glancing blow of a slap punch. Tim Anderson had to wobble off the fucking field.

This dude got knocked the fuck out by a slap punch. And boy, I don't think anything better could have happened for all of baseball. Everybody on earth was talking about it, including the managers. Old buddies, the managers, old buddies of managers. Terry Franco. You're not supposed to laugh, but that guy, falling, no look.

Boys will be boys. Knocked the guy out. Good for baseball. What is baseball's reaction to this entire thing? Incredible. Every once in a while, you'll get something sweet in baseball. A pitcher will hit somebody, and the guy will charge the mound. Every once in a while, it's a pitcher who you don't fuck with.

And that guy will accept the invitation right away and kind of charge the batter. Like we've seen in years, like Nolan Ryan used to, he'd throw inside on guys or hit guys, they'd charge at him and he'd fucking go and spear them and, you know, like just go right after him. There's been a couple of guys like that. Sean Casey. Yeah, Sean Casey. Exactly.

I don't think he got in any fights. Kyle Farnsworth. Yeah, Farnsworth. Same deal. Big pitchers who basically would challenge guys and then wouldn't take shit from the bats. Rocket. Yeah, exactly. Throwing broken bats at Mike Piazza's head and stuff like that, but I've

never seen something like that before. I've seen a couple years ago, Jose Bautista played for the blue jays him and rugnet or door like got into it and like same deal like actual swing like legit fight hit him on the button but then they kind of split it up like you see the umpire like gets out of the way and basically says like hey it was like hockey it was it was a legit it was a legitimate hockey fight he's like hey i'm gonna let you guys this. I don't want to get in the way of this. And at first, Tim Anderson's like throwing some good kind of glancing blows in there.

But you never expect to see a guy get knocked on his ass like that. And especially after where he's stumbling around. I mean, it was like he was in the octagon. I don't know. I didn't see after that. I don't know if he continued playing in the game. I don't know. No, he didn't play the next day either.

He was out of the lineup the next day. I don't know if he continued playing in the game. I don't know how he did. No, he didn't play the next day either. He was out of the lineup the next day. I assume concussion protocol. Yeah, probably. Which is the thing, I guess, unless you're the Yankees and you make your players play with a concussion for a tournament. Oh, yeah, good players too, right? Yeah, just let them strike. Well, that's on.

I mean, that's neither here nor there. That's on Rizzo, okay? You don't feel good, you fucking say something, all right? You don't need to go up there and strike out four times every single day. Yeah, well, guess what? He's hurting the team big time when he's batting in the street. Yeah, well, sometimes team needs to help the boys. You know, sometimes you need to be able to say,

eh, take the hard way away. Yeah, I guess. Hold him back. But that's neither here nor there. But I was surprised because I figured a lot of people, like baseball purists, would be like, there's just no room in the game for this kind of stuff. Literally everyone I saw was like, this is fucking awesome.

This is the sweetest thing I've seen on a baseball diamond this year. And we got the steroid Olympics coming, which we've been talking about for baseball. We're not the only ones. We understand that, but we're just saying our particular stance is if we have gotten to a point where steroids are super healthy and not any steroids, I guess,

you get it. A lot better than I think it was. I would assume it's advanced since what it was at one point, but like baseball is finest. He's winning there. He is big, joist-up, meaty man taking wood and hitting baseballs into the other town. Yeah. That is when baseball was at its actual peak. Stats documented.

Go look it up. No question. So I understand the MLB has to look out for their guys and say, hey, you guys can't just be taking every single horse steroid that exists so that you can hit balls further. Although we do appreciate it. I understand their stance. But this steroid Olympics

they got coming around here, performance drugged Olympics, launch of 2020, need to have a home run derby in here. Absolutely. Need to have a home run derby in this thing. Absolutely. And if it's like a recently retired player,

hey, listen, the last six months, I've been allowed to take, this thing's the best. This is the best sporting event I've ever had. They've allowed me to take every stair road available. Now watch me hit this ball 600 feet or whatever the case is. And let him use metal bats too. Obviously, this is not a safe thing to do.

Kids should not be doing any of this stuff. All that being said, so many pulled muscles happening at this thing. Oh, yeah. There's going to be muscles getting ripped off of bones in this thing. A couple tears. But, boy, there should be some electrifying stuff. The athletes are getting paid, too. And baseball, with these guys fighting and everything,

I think it's electrifying as well. Joining us now is a man who has all the information about the top story of the day in the sport that is football. Obviously, the NFL is going to have 6.3 million viewers on a Hall of Fame game. Yeah. Damn. They're going to have 6.3 million people, myself included,

watching a game with a bunch of players playing a sport on a team that they're probably not going to be on. That's right. But we'll do it because the highest-watched Hall of Fame game since 2018 pre-COVID, 6.3 million viewers. Good for them. But in college right now, there's a transition era taking place that I don't think any college football purist is necessarily thrilled about,

but it is certainly just the tip of the iceberg, I do believe. Joining us now is a man who worked for the Wall Street Journal, I do believe. Now he's at ESPN. Senior insider for college football and College Game Day Electric Factory. The authority, Pete Thamel. Yeah, Pete! Pete? Quiet week, Pat. Quiet week.

Yeah, dude, I sent you a text. What was that, on Friday? I think I sent Pete a text like, hey, need you for like five minutes today. Got a text back at like 7 p.m. I was like, brother, sorry. It has been a pretty wild time here. Let's dive into this.

So all of this movement out of the Pac-12 to the Big Ten and to the Big 12 is all because the Apple deal was nowhere near what the Pac-12 schools thought it was going to be? Or can you take us back to why the Pac-12 now only has four schools and what we should look for next? Yeah, well, in the micro path, the most important trigger here was that the Pac-12 schools wanted to stay out West.

Like it was sensible. So a year ago, USC and UCLA leave, they basically can double their TV revenue every year. Think roughly 70 million to roughly 35 million. They could not say no to that. So those two go. You have 10 schools left. And those 10 schools generally thought, okay, we can function as a West Coast conference.

We can still, Oregon and Washington are the bell cows, and we will just continue to roll on here out West. But the problem was that the first real trigger that sent this down the spiral where we are now is that the PAC-12 has one year left on its television contract. The Big 12 has two. The Big 12 commissioner, Brett Yormark, basically jumped in line and said, boom, I'm going to renegotiate early with ESPN and Fox and push out for seven more years. So all of a sudden, there was not a lot of money and then not a lot of television windows left for the Pac-12. So they had to go. They were scrambling for about a year to find a TV deal. They found one with

Apple, and it just wasn't enough. It wasn't good enough. The exposure was uncertain. The money was fluid. It was going to be somewhere in the 20s but if you had this many subscribers it would go up that scares college presidents remember making these decisions guys so like college presidents are the most risk averse they they can they they would just they would prefer the show over risk for the students you mean right for the students yeah for the good of yes presidents of universities care about the students first and foremost. Correct. Is what you're talking about here? A little bit of that. They talk about the money job. Oh, the money is what you're talking about. So it's a fascinating kind of situation because like in our world, podcasting and digital media, there's a lot of companies that you do a deal with where they'll say we'll give you five bucks,

but also you get four bucks for every sign up that you get through this link here. It's going affiliate deal, rev share deal. They try to sell it to like early podcasters that don't really have a brand as a chance to prove it. And then our next deal will be something different. So like our company, I will not agree to those deals at this stage of where we are. I will not agree to those deals at this stage of where we are just because like we might introduce somebody to a company but then they forget our promo code or they don't use our link and then two weeks later they do it it's like well we certainly still sent it but we don't do it part of the process though gotta gotta get through that every digital company has to do that if I'm

the president of a university and I'm being pitched an affiliate deal, I would be fucking offended too. Like I would be, I would be pretty offended by it. Like that's just bad business. Cause how do you know they're going to sign up through your link and how will they be able to, then the transparency that has to happen between Apple and the link and also you and your accounting department and their accounting department, it all just gets really sticky in there. And I think this is a digital deal, which is what just gets really sticky in there. And I think this is a digital deal, which is what Apple was trying to present there.

So I could see. But did George, George, what's the off? Cleofcoff. Cleofcoff. Did he think that was K for future reference? George K. All right. Shout out. Commissioner of PAC 12, which might no longer be a conference anymore.

Good run. He thought that was going to be more. He thought that these schools would be cool with the affiliate deal. What did he think? Well, George K. basically got a bad hand and managed to make it work. He's been the commissioner. He took over for a bad commissioner, Larry Scott, who lasted way too long. The Pac-12's problem, Pat, is rooted in apathy of the fan bases that didn't care enough to

rally around their network. And then the former commissioner, Larry Scott, had a horrible network plan that never got distribution. And through the life of their last TV deal that expires this year, 12 years, they were actually the highest paid league when it started for a couple of weeks before the SEC did a deal. That deal started with such promise. Then network didn't take off. Larry Scott turned into a dud. The presidents didn't realize it, never fired him because they were paying him too much money. And six, eight years

in his tenure, when it was an abject disaster, they just sort of rode with him as long as they could. They finally parted ways. They brought in George Kay. He had worked at MGM and been in business, and he just did not adapt well to college athletics. There's really no other way to put it. He worked there about two years, and I wrote this last week. When his final words are written, he never actually accomplished anything. He never had, like, oh, we did this great deal, or we did this with our conference championship game. We did like he's been there two years and essentially nothing has happened. It's been a Seinfeld tenure for lack of lack of a better way to put it. And so now, again, you could have Winston Churchill trying to negotiate these deals.

You have the Pac-12, which isn't the sexiest product. You have a lot of the money taken up. We're not in a bull market right now. Economically, the media companies, especially six months ago, were really regressing. And like, there's only so many television windows left, right? Like, you know, when you look at ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, Fox, FS1, like, there's literally only so many three hour blocks to put these games. And that was one thing that really got in the way of the Pac-12 was like, there was nowhere for them to go. And that's why streaming ended up becoming, you know, becoming a mainstream thing for them. I think it's interesting because allegedly Amazon was in on the Big Ten and NBC ended up winning. And NBC ended up winning, even though they didn't bid as much as Amazon did, but because they still have the traditional network as well.

And it was kind of like, I don't want to say my speech at Upfronts, but kind of like my speech at Upfronts. We're at this very interesting time right now where linear television is obviously still a thing, still very powerful. Numbers are huge, 6.3 million for the Hall of Fame game on Thursday. Numbers for everything are up. But digital has the infrastructure now to really be able to compete. The banks behind it, the amount of money behind it, the reach, the access, the convenience on how to get there where like maybe five years ago the amazon thursday night thing

with the nfl would have been just uh no way that is way too difficult now it feels like society's getting more used to the streaming platforms so everybody wants to get in on live sports you would have thought that george k for this conversation who i've met were you at the dinner you're at the dinner that i was at right with him i think i don't met. Were you at the dinner? You were at the dinner that I was at, right? With him, I think. I don't know if I was at the dinner you were at, but I know George. Yeah. Was that in Eugene maybe, Pat?

Yeah, it was. Yeah. Yeah, you were there. Yeah. So that was when I met him or whatever. Seemed like a good guy. Seemed like a nice guy. A good guy.

Really nice guy. Bright guy. I don't want to judge him as a human, but there's definitely deals to get done now. Don't you think? You've got to sell it, I guess, but live sports is all anybody wants right now. Apple wants it, obviously. Not as much as, I guess,

all their schools thought they would want it, but I wonder if that's because there wasn't any competition because you need another bidder to kind of run that thing up. I don't know how you're not able to get a deal done, especially whenever you have two L. two LA schools in there. Now granted they're gone, but you get them out of there. Oregon has Nike, right? Like Nike is Oregon and

like Washington's getting real good. I don't, I'm fascinated by it, bro. I'm really, really fascinated about how they weren't able to get a deal. Now that turns to another conference. Let's talk about it. The ACC. I guess seven schools in the ACC have had their lawyers look at their TV deal. They can't get out of it unless they all pay $120 million or something like that.

But their deal is until 2036. That is a long time. What do they look like with all this movement with the Big 10, the Big 12? And obviously the SEC has teams going in. The ACC has no teams jumping into the ACC. The Pac-12 has everybody bailing. What's the ACC look like going forward, you think? Yeah, it's a little bit Lord of the Flies there right now, Pat. There's no other way to say it. There is a segment led by Florida State. I mean, Florida

State's president came out and basically said, we need to be paid more money than everyone else in the ACC, or we're going to have to think about leaving. The problem with leaving, and again, some of this stuff is way over my head legally, they'd have to pay, like you said, $120, $130 million. But the rub there that's really interesting is there's this thing in college deals called grants of rights, right? It's a phrase you only hear when talking about college media deals. And essentially, Florida State, Boston College, Syracuse, pick one, they have all granted their rights. So if you wanted a North Carolina field hockey game in 2035, the ACC actually owns those games. They've granted all the rights of all their home games, that entire league, through 2036.

So the legal ambiguity here, and why, quite frankly, Florida State, Clemson, Miami, some of these unhappy schools haven't left yet is that even if they pay that exit fee they don't know if they can take their games with them. So they would have to battle out legally and there's only one thing we know about legal battles is they don't happen quickly right. So they would have to battle legally to get their games back to then sell them to someone else and that's sort of the standoff that's been going on for almost two years in the ACC. Some of it has come to head more publicly here in the last few months, but there's a thought, too, that this is going to hint a little bit about where we're going in college athletics. Like right now, Alabama and Vanderbilt get the exact same amount of money every year from the SEC, right? And Indiana and Ohio State, and I'm not picking on those schools, but fill in the blank, right?

So as we are now in an era where everybody needs bigger stadiums, better facilities, and quite frankly, you have to pay the players indirectly through NIL, are we in the next set of TV deals in the 2030s going to see Alabama get a more proportional share? And that's what Florida State and Clemson and others are asking for now, is we want to get paid our value. So part of the harmony of these leagues for years was, we're in lockstep, you know, it's like they're marching together because they all make the same amount of money.

And that works in the NFL, but it does not work currently in colleges. And then if you want to go further down the road, which is a great talk radio topic, when do these leagues start to get smaller? When do you start saying, you know what? Trim the fat. Yeah, you're not pulling the weight. So we're going to, you know, and I'm not picking on Maryland there,

but you know the drill. Like there's always, there's high performers and low performers, right? Every league has tops and bottoms. So when do you start trimming to help your bell cows who are clearly earning you all the money? So there's all these issues that are really going to shape how the next generation looks like. And, you know, there's a deadline for Florida State, Pat, August 15th. If they want to leave and join a new league next year in 2024, they would have to notify the ACC in writing. My sources say

it is highly, highly unlikely that they would do that. But we have a lot more August 15th before 2036. So we'd be naive to say in two weeks, it's probably not going to happen. That's not naive. But in two years, are they still going to sit here the same way? Yeah, there's a fascinating scene people have talked about where there's like seven different private planes at the at the airstrip in Greensboro. And everybody goes to look at the documents. They don't give anyone a copy of this grant of rights. You have to like go. It's like a movie. Like you got to go see the see the stone in the in the library of ACC headquarters, which are now in Charlotte, but they were in Greensboro. It's, yeah, it's, it's so everybody's basically looking for a legal loophole, but there's no assurance that, that it's going to happen.

So it's, it's really a fascinating moment in time that we're in right now. Friday, Pat, there'll be documentaries about Friday. There'll be movies about Friday. Friday was the single most pivotal day in my 20 years covering college athletics. Hey, well, that's awesome. Congrats on a massive Friday. Also, quick follow-up. You're going to be a pretty big part of that documentary, pal.

We were following along as it was all unfolding. And I think a lot of people were looking like, no way. Really, really, really? This one's going to be like when? 2024. That's real soon. Oh, shit. You know what's not real soon?

2036. That ACC deal is a long time, bro. That's a long, long time. So they got people traveling to Charlotte to come look at a deal that says, yeah, you're fucked for another 12 years. That's crazy. I think that's the legal term.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't know which judge would say it, but one of them that looked at it would say that because did they just sign that deal because they thought $240 million? This is remarkable. We are going to take this, and then now the money that's been, which once again goes back to George not being able to get a deal done.

Look at the money that's being spent on live sports, bro. That's what this is. Live sports are the only thing that carries ratings anymore. So, like, the ACC being, I would see how they would be, we got to get out of here yeah bullshit now good negotiators though you know you actually negotiate in their windows oh okay hey if things aren't if one side's doing and the other isn't you can actually divorce yeah you're just going in you have to know that that's potentially going to happen but i guess if you're thinking 240 million is the most you're ever going to get like yeah bro lock it in yeah 2036 lock it in how many billion is it so it did oh my god we got four billion coming yeah

lock it in dude we will definitely take that and then all of a sudden a new regime comes in they're like these motherfuckers put us in a situation we're never going to be able to get out of i hope they're able to figure it out. Tony has a question for you, Pete. All right, Pete, so what's going on with the Pac-4 now? Is Washington State, Oregon State going to the Big 12? I mean, Stanford and Cal, those are institutions like with research, so they could go to the Big 10.

Are they going to try to save the Pac-4 and bring in some Mountain West teams? Where do we go with the Final Four? Is the Pac-12 dead? What's going on there? Great question. And I don't think there's an easy answer to that, which is why I think it's going to take a couple weeks for that to resolve itself. There's been

some Stanford ACC smoke that has emerged. I mean, think about this, guys. Stanford has been the farm system for the U.S. Olympics. I believe they've won 26 of the last 29 Directors' Cups for the best athletic departments top to bottom in college athletics. So, I mean, Stanford is this vibrant, just teeming athletic department filled with all these world-class people, and they have great facilities, and they have like nowhere to go right now and could they maybe cal end up in some sort of hybrid acc or some sort of acc west coast wing i don't know like those are the types of things like that's not a no-brainer for either side so it's like okay let's run that ground ball

out let's see the key to keeping a conference together is you keep your ncaa tournament bid and for at least the next two years when the playoff goes to 12 you would in theory potentially keep your playoff access from there so that there is like some motivation to stay together and to stay a little bit sensible and to stay on the west coast you also keep all the NCAA tournament units which ends up being tens of millions of dollars which are the the things you get when you advance in the ncaa tournament and that i won't explain all the math to you on that but they basically have a war chest coming to them from the ncaa for all the teams that have played in the ncaa tournament for the past six or seven years coven messed up the math on that a little

bit but there are like all these tenants like these temples of these conferences to uh to to deal with so i think go somewhere else like all four together until they're not. They're all together independently exploring other options, as somebody told me today. The together option is interesting, but it's not easy. The basic math of, okay, we'll just invite Boise, San Diego State, Fresno, et cetera, doesn't really work because they would owe $34 million each in exit fees for all those schools. So they would have to subsidize that. So if you're just going to say, hey, let's add five schools, that's $150 million. And the Mountain West AAC are basically making $7 or $8 million a

year per school, somewhere in that neighborhood. It might be six for the Mountain West, seven for the AAC. So that's the tier of money. You're probably going to be above that if you have Stanford and Cal in your league, but not really far above that, like if you're guessing it out. So how do you pay $150 million for these schools? The other thing that's really fascinating about this is after this season, all those schools scoot. And so there's like no more schedule. Like you don't have a schedule moving forward after this year. Now, college football is scheduled out in an obnoxious way to like 2037. It's like Toledo announces a home and home with Michigan State in 2036. Like all of a sudden you don't have a schedule if you're those four schools for next season.

Like I've talked to a couple of coaches at some of those spots and they're like, we don't not only where we're going to go,, we don't know where we're going to go, but we don't know who we're going to play. So there is some Mountain West synergy that could happen. I think they will try to bolt, first of all, for their own good. They will try to stay together, option two, and then they will try some sort of Mountain West merger or just head there.

And Stanford potentially could go independent in football. Welcome to the Pac-Mountain. You know what I mean? Everybody starts at in football back. Welcome to the pack. Martin. Everybody starts at the ball. I'm trying to get to the top of the pack. Martin. We're all the exact same. Now, with that being said,

probably not as many talented schools, football wise, uh, whenever, would they get an automatic bid to the playoff still? Like, are they going to realign who the power five are? Cause allegedly it's all the champions of the power five,

get an automatic playoff bid. and then the rankings, right, are the ones that are going to fill in the blanks for everybody else? So that's close, Pat. Right now, the way they have it, which is a bone to the non-power schools, it's the conference champ, top six conference champions. So you would think the Power Five get one, and then they let somebody from the AAC, or they let somebody from Conference USA, or the Sunbelts, or the MAC

jump up and get bid number 12 for the honor of going and getting annihilated by, you know, fill in the blank. Whoa! Come on. Whoa. Well. That Cincinnati team, you don't think Sauce Gardner would have done all right? Sauce was good, man. Sauce was

good. Still is. Still is, by the way. Oh, yeah. But every once in a while, there's one of those teams from, obviously UCF was the one before Cincinnati. Yes. And I think it is good news that they'll get an opportunity to get out there and prove it because to Pete's point, if this new 16-team format just becomes, you know,

a spotlight on the haves and the have-nots like then i'll be excited to see how we all feel about it but i think we're all pumped up about it this whole realignment though throws quite a wrench in the entire system because if that's the new setup to get into playoffs you would think some teams would strategically be like all right we're going to stay in a weaker conference to become a champion, to kind of run through it. So then we get an automatic bid, hopefully. Has that type of gamesmanship been played at all? Or is everybody just trying to get to the consistent money, you think? Yeah, there's a couple of things. So we're top six definitively, Pat, for the two

years that are remaining on the contract. So we're entering year 10 of a 12-year contract. that are remaining on the contract. So we're entering year 10 of a 12-year contract. And then years 11 and years 12 are the 12 team. So right now, that top six threshold conference champions is for those two years. I can't imagine that staying through going forward from there, Pat. It just doesn't make any sense. And there is an idea if you're Oregon State, you're like, okay, maybe we can stay in the Mountain West and dominate that league and win, which sounds great. But then if you're making $23 million less than you were expecting to make, it's not great. So it's like that's the choice. Like Oregon and Washington could have stuck it out on Apple and probably had pretty good playoff access from winning that league and being competitive in that league, maybe getting that large bid.

But they weren't going to have the visibility on Apple. I mean, that 6.8 number really resonated with me. I don't call the NFL that close. That's mind-boggling that an NFL preseason game, you might not have 6.8 million Apple subscribers that could watch that game, never mind actually people, like, flipping on their TV and watching it. So it became an exposure issue at the core for some of those. But the playoff going forward,

it's going to be really interesting. That top six isn't... You have to follow the money, right? And the money's going to want the big names and big brands in. So I have a feeling that's going to become top five conference champions, still obviously having the carrot for some of those smaller schools. And I'm not being dismissive of those schools.

My first year covering this was Urban Meyer's Utah team. Alex Smith, Smith at quarterback one of the great teams um most fun teams you know the spread offense was new like those are a Colt Brennan at Hawaii um you mentioned UCF those are the teams that make college football great Kellen Moore at Boise like that's to me the soul of college football that's what makes it different is you have somebody in this you know the smaller school or different environment and uh and then they roll out and you know they make a difference and that's like the thing that nfl can't replicate you know if jacksonville pops up or whatever there's only 32 of them whereas we got 133 cats in all these different corners of the country

and it makes it fun when all of a sudden they can really chase things agreed completely and to your point about uh so i didn't even think about that pac-4 deal still happening with apple yeah that's still taking place that's where they're gonna live no no no no they don't have a deal right now like that's the problem going forward is they can't pay buyout or exit fees or anything like that because they have no television deal i mean look you need a league to have a deal to put on tv right like that like they don't have a league right now. You need six teams at a minimum to have a league right now. All right. Last question here for you from Tosh Mead. Yeah, Pete, I think the way everything's trending, I know you mentioned like, you know, the big 10 potentially trimming the fat, but I think a lot

of big 10 fans just assume like, okay, well just in a matter of time here, they're going to get up to 20. Um, and I think the golden goose for everyone who went to a Big Ten school or is a Big Ten fan is do whatever you have to do to make sure Notre Dame gets into the Big Ten. And I understand they have their own TV deal that's worth a lot of money, and maybe that goes into it too. If they stay independent, it's easier for them to kind of play a little bit softer of a schedule and have a chance to make the playoff

every single year. But they already have that NBC TV deal in place. The Big Ten has an NBC TV deal. It kind of makes sense. Do you see a situation where Notre Dame eventually is in the Big Ten? And if not Notre Dame, who do you think two other teams the Big Ten would kind of circle and go after if they do decide to expand a little bit more? So I'll start with Notre Dame, Ty. It's a really good question. And my understanding of the way Notre Dame is going to operate going forward, again, they have a new athletic director coming in who's going to be sort of a

sidecar AD this year and then start full-time next year. Pete Bavacqua from NBC is coming over. Hey, that guy can spin a football. I just want to let everybody know, Pete Bavacqua can spin a football. Oh, yeah. I don't know if everybody knows this. He was a walk-on punter at Notre Dame. Then he went on to the Golf Network.

Then he became, I think, president of NBC Sports. And then now he's the athletic director for Notre Dame. I had a chance to chat with him and his team whenever we were thinking about exploring our options and everything. He came in here, spin a football. Oh, yeah. Seeds. He was throw, I mean,

it was impressive. In a suit, like kind of a, he had like a sweater on. With a button down underneath. Looked super cool. Hey, what's this thing? Started spinning it. I got faith in him figuring it out.

But anyway, sorry about that. Just wanted to say that. This is the first time getting to say that. Pete Bavogba has the best arm I've ever seen him figuring it out. But anyway, sorry about that. Just wanted to say that. This is the first time getting to say that. Pete Bavogba has the best arm I've ever seen out of any suit. It's a dog. That is what I was going to say. All right, anyway. Well, he also has a good hand to play with Notre Dame football. The one thing we've learned is that the biggest brands are going to command the most money.

And a vibrant, relevant Notre Dame, people are going to want. So the conventional thought is they'd stick with NBC. I believe, and I haven't looked at this lately, their deal is up 24, 25-ish. The thought is they could end up getting in the same range that 65, 70 million, whatever it is that you would get in one of these big leagues, but they keep independence. They keep being unique. The only thing that's going to force Notre Dame from independence, and it's very basic, is when they run out of teams to play. If everybody colluded and said, we're going to force Notre Dame from independence? And it's very basic. When they run out of teams to play, if everybody colluded and said, we're going to get so big and there's going to be so much

consolidation that Notre Dame can't put together a schedule. So these leagues have to get bigger and then they say, we're going to play 10 conference games. Then all of a sudden, everyone's like, well, I can't play Notre Dame on my two non-conference games. I want to play Stephen F. Austin. You just buried these schools.

How many schools? We're just throwing one out there. West Virginia is about to win a natty. We haven't even talked about them. Welcome to our Big 12, by the way. But to your point, West Virginia, it was tough for us to schedule people. Not a lot of people wanted to schedule us

with their non-conference games. We were getting very terrible teams and everybody was like, well, then at the end of the. So we're getting like very terrible teams. And everybody's like, well, then at the end of the year, we're getting judged on the teams that we beat. And it was like, well, nobody would fucking schedule us. What do you, so that's, if they get exclusivity there with the conference exclusivity, that would be Notre Dame kind of getting pushed out

to the side, right? So shouldn't they start actively making deals almost with each conference? Almost. So that's the, that's the intersection in the graph that they have to determine, right? Like when USC says to them, we can't play you anymore because the big 10 is too rigorous.

That becomes a problem for Notre Dame. They play Stanford every year. The conventional thought has been, and I've reported this the last two years is that if Notre Dame does go to the big 10, they would want Stanford to go with them. They would like to keep that partnership. They obviously play on the West Coast every year, either at L.A.

There's 50 Olympians falling. You just mentioned this about Stanford. Could you imagine the Big Ten being like, yeah, we also have a school that's over there in beautiful, beautiful Northern California that has, I don't know, 150 Olympians just stumbling out of classrooms isn't stanford a hot commodity i'd assume right well stanford isn't a hot commodity that the big 10 had a chance to examine them and didn't take

them in uh in this stanford football doesn't rate now remember stanford has an unbelievable brand pat i would never argue that you played with a bunch of Stanford guys, I know, at the Colts. I mean, I watched Stanford football be as good as any program in the country at times over from, you know, whatever it was, 08 to 15. I mean, Stanford had as good of a run as ever. They had elite offensive linemen. Obviously, they had elite quarterback and quarterbacks. They had the best tailback in the country who should have won the Heisman. Like, they've had really good football.

Stanford football, though, doesn't rate and it doesn't resonate. It doesn't have the brand resonance that Notre Dame does, which is a national following. It has a religious undertone and has a century of great football behind it. Stanford has just been very good, but it doesn't really have the same mass appeal. If it did, quite frankly, the Big Ten would have taken them. You think the Big Ten presidents wouldn't be fighting each other in the in the boardroom for for stanford uh well the last the last big 10 commissioner who's now up there with the bears i mean i don't know if he was making the sound decisions all the time as i think big 10 people would have expected but it is funny

to think of all the big 10 how's their tenure actually part of the reason it went sideways was one of the things Kevin Warren tried to do was jam four more schools down the Big Ten after he added USC and UCLA and they couldn't find a TV deal for it and it ended up being a turnoff to some of the ADs and the presidents there.

Did I just lose my internet, Pat? No, we didn't see you there for a second, but we heard you. The words were good. They were gospel. You know what you were saying about Kevin Warren with the teams. I think when it all turned south for old Kevin, he canceled football. Remember? He canceled football.

Oh, yeah. He was the first one from one of the Power Five schools to be like, you know what? We're heroes. We ain't doing it. And Pac-12 jumped in. Well, they were together, I think, right? Oh, it was a unified front.

Immediately, like eight teams in the Big Ten were like, no, we're playing football. Well, then were together, I think, right? Oh, it was a unified front. Immediately, like eight teams in the Big Ten were like, no, we're playing football. Well, then the SEC, Sankey comes out. He's like, we're playing football down here. No matter what. Oh, they're saying the Ivy League isn't playing? Okay. Way to go.

They need to be figuring out how to stop this whole thing anyways with their big brains. Shout out. Thank you, Ivy. Thank you. And then Sankey was like, the Big Ten isn't playing. Ooh, they might play some games with us. We'll call. Remember, who was it? It was Nebraska. Yeah, Ivy. And then say it was like the Big Ten isn't playing. Ooh, they might play some games with us. We'll call, remember, who was it?

It was Nebraska. Yeah, Iowa. Iowa, Ohio State. Yep. I forget how many schools. They're like, well, if you're not going to play, we're going to certainly go play down the SEC. Could you imagine if that would have happened?

I think that was when everybody was looking at, that's when the general Bob Carpenter started rallying people to go to Chicago to go sit outside of his, that was when I think it all kind of turned soft. But then, yeah, trying to kick other people out, I could imagine didn't win him over. What a time. What a time. All you need is one person in a position that can operate. And all of a sudden you're seeing the ripple effects throughout the rest of it.

And we're just going to follow along with your Twitter account as you keep us all updated. Appreciate the hell out of you, Pete. Yeah, Pat. We'll see you soon on the trail here. Thanks, bud. Yeah. Good to see you guys. Hey, can't wait to get on the road with you again, man.

The Authority, ladies and gentlemen. Pete Thamel. Yeah, Pete! I traveled with Pete last year, you know? This man right here. Yeah, great guy. Look at him on game day. First time he popped up on the screen when I was on there, I was so happy.

Yeah. He's a potential. Bro, he just, he is like, hey, boom. Yep. All business. Authority. We don't have time. Nope.

That's family. We do not have, they had me muted a couple weeks, and my mic was on a couple different weeks. Yeah. And every once in a while, I try to give a good pop for Pete. Ha-ha! Good joke. Yep, yep.

You know, because I do. I love, I enjoy this man a lot. You know what I mean? I really, and he seems to never sleep. Yep. And insiders for the NFL, they're always on their phone. You think about because I do. I love – I enjoy this man a lot. You know what I mean? I really – and he seems to never sleep. Yep. And insiders for the NFL, they're always on their phone. You think about it. You know, when you think about rap, think about Shefty,

think about what their lives are. We always talk about it. Like, your life. It's 32 teams. Yeah. Thamel is on the horn at all times. 132. Texting, talking, networking with everybody know and then the team turns over to coaches

turn over yeah so he's got to re-hit the phones to kind of what a life crazy how do you expect that guy to be on tv and act normal when he's literally a machine yeah the guy's a fucking machine out there uh college football is in a wild time we will continue uh to kind of you know, follow along, keep everybody up. It feels like there's going to be a lot of changes over the next year, though, before the big playoff push. College football is going to look different,

but we need to remember that college football is always going to be awesome. Okay? That's what we need to remember. College football will always be awesome because, you know, and they just got to hope that this doesn't happen. And, you know, McGee kind of talked about it. McGee said, you guys are going to change some things and people are going to stop going.

You know what I mean? These people aren't scared to stop going now. That's basically what he said. The traditions of college football. Right. The spectacle of college football is what makes college football. The crowd, the vibes, the environment, that is college football. That's what I learned last year while I was

traveling around. The football is the football. Football is good. Football is great. Some of these teams are unbelievable. Some of these players, obviously, we're going to see on Sundays forever and they're going to have traditions and legacies made after them in their colleges, towns, forever, and they're going to be heroes forever. That's certainly the case.

But that crowd is the show. Backbone. So as long as you still have that, I think you always have college football and I think enough rivalries are staying. I think enough rivalries are keeping around. I guess Bedlam will not happen, right? No. This particular year or whatever?

It'll happen this year. This is the last year Texas and Oklahoma are leaving. After it changes. So West Virginia pit stopped for a while, and then it came back. So I'm hoping any of the rivalries that isn't a lot that kind of got realigned here or reshaped can somehow make their way back in the future in negotiation. But if you look at most of these places, the rivalries are traveling together. You know what I mean?

UCLA, USC for LA, okay, they're staying. Washington, Oregon, okay, they're staying. Oklahoma, Texas, UCLA, USC for LA. Okay. They're staying Washington, Oregon. Okay. They're staying Oklahoma, Texas. Okay. They're staying everybody, Michigan, Ohio state still together. You can go down the line, Duke UNC still together. Like all the rivalries are still kind of pieced together, which not all of most of the rivalries still pieced together, which I think is gigantic for the future of the sport when everybody thinks that the sport is about to die. I think if we keep those together, we'll still have those moments,

we'll still have the tradition, we'll still have the expectation, and hopefully we'll be able to build more as the college football world continues. The only really ones that you lose here is the Oregon State, Oregon, Washington State, Washington, because they're left behind. Those are the only ones that you, like, the interstate rivalries, like those big ones, those are the ones you're really losing with these. So that Oregon, Oregon State one, if you talk to the people at Oregon, you know.

Not really. Right. Washington is the. Yeah, exactly. Oregon State still matters, but Washington is the one that we're really. The big one. In there. So once I saw them kind

of paired together I was like wow that's that seems to be on purpose when you saw Oklahoma and Texas together it's like that seems to be on purpose USC UCLA even though there's many other rivalries between those two schools and traditions it's like that feels like that's on purpose it's really I enjoy I enjoy what they got going on and for people who like you know really want like the old rivalries and are pissed about that like i understand that but then there's also the opportunity for like hey there's a good chance you're gonna get to see like usc and ohio state play every single year or oregon and michigan like there's there's a good chance that like massive new rivalries kind of come of this uh like re-jumbling of the conferences and we and we're going to get a lot better games because of it.

All right, let's start chatting. I'm sure we'll talk about this in the next hour with AJ. We should try to call the general, see how he feels. The general Bob Carpenter about it, because this is big news, bro. Huge. Big news. Not as big, not as big as the win that Jake Paul had on Saturday. Oh.

That's right. It is awesome. I watched his documentary on the Untold series on Netflix. Johnny Manziel's comes out tomorrow. Johnny Football, we talked to him on Friday. Great conversation. Feels like he's in a good spot. He's opening a bar, which was kind of an interesting.

Yeah. Shop bar, too. Yeah, I didn't expect that to come out of there, especially with the way he was talking but it feels like he's in a much better place mentally than he's ever been yeah so i'm excited he's letting us into his story the jake paul story very fascinating him and his brother logan how they kind of went through it and then his big fight down there at the american airline center that was sold out the fucking arena against dave diaz yeah and obviously the undercard

spotlighting other fighters trying to make more money for everybody which is a big part of his mission. Him and Conor McGregor got into it last night about that whole thing. Conor said a couple things. I don't believe you're supposed to say it on the internet anymore. Nobody told Conor McGregor that. Jake Paul responded in there. Some others got in. The fight game was always seemingly active, but what

Jake Paul has done for boxing, great. And him beating Nate Diaz, I'm impressed. He was a minus 600 favorite to win that fight. Yes, he was. The books knew that Nate Diaz's boxing might not be what makes Nate Diaz Nate Diaz. Yes. There's a couple rounds Nate Diaz won. That first round, Jake Paul comes out throwing haymakers.

That was an entertaining fight, seemingly, from start to finish. And Jake gets the big win. They're going to have a rematch now. Who knows if it'll be MMA or another boxing match, more money's in there. And then Jake is just continuing to carve his way through this fight world with not a lot of fights, not a lot of experience,

the entire, he's still profiting off these fights that most fighters normally don't profit off. First eight fights, first six fights of boxers careers. Normally they're making no money. They're getting a hot dog at the bottom of a card. They're lucky to be there. Then once

you start stacking and becoming undefeated, you're good. He's profiting mightily off of these fights where he's still learning his road. He says world champion by 2026. I mean, good luck. I have no idea how that'll happen, but I hope it'll happen just for the sake of us getting right along for the story. Congrats to him. Congrats to Nate

getting broken off. I assume he paid very well. He's an entertaining fighter. is an entertaining fighter always will be no matter where you put him in a fight he's going to be entertaining even if it's in a stare down talk fest he's going to be entertaining yep so that was a win-win i think good for jake paul out there yeah it was awesome the whole thing you mentioned the undercard we got to watch amanda serrano just absolutely tagged right before uh jay Jake Paul versus Diaz. Entire crowd was on Diaz's side, which isn't new for these Jake Paul boxing matches, but I enjoyed it.

You mentioned the first round. I thought there was a chance right away like, okay, Jake Paul might actually knock him out. And it was just another one of those times where you're watching it and you don't realize because I feel like this happened a few fights ago, but Jake Paul is an actual boxer now. Nate Diaz, I'm sure he does. No, he lost to Tommy Fury. Tyson Fury's old brother started boxing when he was like five years old.

Yeah, and he probably falls into that category who might start a little lower on the fights for normal boxing for Tommy Fury. But the way he was moving, and he did tag Nate Diaz a few times, but Nate Diaz, what he said on the show holds true completely he had a black eye in like a minute and then but but was fine my skin he's yeah he's awesome bro him turning his back at one point looking hot yeah looking out to the crowd who knows what he was doing and the thing that i was most impressed with that jake paul's cardio yes yeah exactly especially with how that first round went so he came out we're ending this thing so normally after

that takes place okay that was a big dump of energy yeah that was a big dump of adrenaline that was a lot normally your body can get tired and he tweeted like he got cardio kings by the cardio king is what he said to nate diaz or whatever he was very proud he should be hey yes this fucking guy should be very proud after watching this documentary jake paul should be very proud of himself and i appreciate the fact that we're getting to watch it all he is certainly fucked up absolutely certainly yeah self-admittedly and will again probably yeah if i can guess he's an ohio fuck you know what i mean so is logan they're just two oh two Ohio fuckers that are just out there doing it. But he should be very proud. So should Logan.

Now, brass knuckles. A little cheap. Come on. Because I love Ricochet. Oh, yeah. Ricochet is probably the most athletic human being I've ever seen with these eyes. Because they need you to do, and by athletic, I mean... Acrobatic.

Acrobatic. There it is. The most acrobatic... Shout out to Simone. She's back. Let's go, Simone. Yeah. Simone's all the way back.

Just beat the fuck out of everybody. Yeah, exactly. Everyone. Kind of took some time off. I think she got married to an NFL guy. Yep. They're living their life. She's going to come back

because the Olympics are next year. Yeah, let's see what we got. She's back. Still got it. Beat everybody. And a lot of people, she's a quarter. let's see what we got. She's back. Beat everybody. And a lot of people, she's a quarter. It's like, well, she seemingly went through some real stuff. You don't think the people that are at the top like her don't have an axe to grab?

Like that whole thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm excited to watch her. Because whenever you're watching the Olympics, the women's gymnastics is one of the ones where we're going to win. Absolutely. So we are going to cheer for it. You know, that's what we got to do.

Just like normally. Unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. what we got to do. Just like normally. Unfortunately. I don't know if that's going to happen. Earliest exit in history. That chapter's closed. Stayed up for the entire thing, too. We weren't even able to say our country's better than yours. Sorry about it.

Suck it. This year. That's all we want to do. That's all we want to do. We love Olympics. We love World Cups cups we love when our country is playing your country because you're outright allowed to say your country stinks yeah and people just take it in the competitive sphere exactly because whenever you say that outside of there oh you don't know about the people of france blah blah it's like no i'm talking about us dominating you at a sport that your people have worked hard for.

Our people have worked harder. Shout out to America. This is what greatness looks like. You guys suck. We're allowed to say that. Speedwalkers. If we had one, if the Americans had a speedwalker, the amount of shit I would talk about the other country speedwalking, like everybody's walking.

Our guy's walking better than your guy. Sorry about it. It is America. I love these types of events. Now, the women's national team has been very steady for us for a long time. That we can be as ignorant and as arrogant as possible. We're going to beat you. That's what we're going to do.

And when I say ignorant, I'm truly meaning ignorant. We don't know who they're playing, how the competition is. We don't have a clue what world's women's soccer is like. We don't know what leagues they're playing in. We have no idea who the best is in the world. We just assume we have her and we're going to beat you. It's been fun. It's been a great run.

Two straight World Cups. That's eight years straight of talking shit on people for their sport, us beating the hell out of you. Now, earliest exit in history. I guess water is going to find its level. I guess there was going to come a time where we were no longer going to be the most arrogant group on earth. And I think it's potentially because...

Foxy. Whoa, Foxy. What are you doing? What the hell was that, Foxy? Foxy. What are we looking for? What the hell was that? Foxy, I was just What are we looking for? What the hell was that? Foxy, I was just going to talk about the team.

I wasn't going to necessarily blame anybody. Yes, VAR was certainly a nightmare. Because the goalie said we lost by a millimeter. Because the whole ball has to be past the line. That's the soccer rules. And I'm sure if you're watching a whole ball. So even if a tiny little bit was still on the line, no goal. Whole ball has to go in there.

Somehow these lasers were this accurate okay i'm sure i'm sure but nonetheless we had a couple other penalties missed one was by yes foxy megan rapinoe yeah who has won two world cups that should be remembered but there's been a lot of things said about meganinoe, and that's just the reality of the matter. Megan Rapinoe asked for a lot of things to be said about her whenever she wanted to change the world in a way in which she thought it was going to be made better. Now, those ways certainly were not always the ways of how other people felt or potentially watching the United States pulling for the United States, only wanting us to win and our absolute best to be shown on the field. And this is sports. I don't want to talk about politics. I came to watch sports. There's a lot of people out there that are like that. A lot of people that sports are their escape. So whenever

the star of the team immediately starts making a lot of politics stuff, you can see how some people immediately go, I don't want this. You're playing for the country that you weren't changed so bad. You hated so bad. That's how people started viewing Megan Rapinoe, which I think oozed into the rest of the team and how people felt about the U.S. Women's National Team. Then Messi comes in and Messi scoring like six goals. And a lot of people

had a lot of excuses not to watch or care about this Women's National Team. And a lot of people were very excited for the earliest exit in the history of the women's team because of how they view the women's national team. I would like to let us know. I'll let the world know. I wanted us to win.

I want us to win the next World Cup. I want us to win the next World Cup. I want us to win every single World Cup so that we can continue to be these arrogant, stupid Yankees about everybody else's sport. And for one reason or another, whether they lost focus on sport, whether they lost focus on pride of the team that you're playing for whether you lost focus on anything i hope this makes them better and i hope the next generation of the women's national team understands that that crest on their chest that julie ertz was talking about wearing for the last time and she got emotional means a lot to a lot of people out here who just want to see us win

over another country. And I think that is what I take away from it all. And I hope the ladies win in four years from right now. Now, let's get to a break. AJ Hawk will be joining us on the other side. Can I wait to chat with him? Rapinoe pissing people off, though, bro. Oh, yeah.

A lot of people don't like her. A lot. So, there's a lot of people that like her. Yeah, no. I just mean, yeah. Like, I saw a lot of the negativity being loud. We live here in Indiana, in the middle of the country. Mm-hmm.

And we have a lot of military friends. Mm-hmm. You know, a lot of people that love fucking America. Love America, yeah. You know what I mean? So whenever somebody comes out and says that they don't necessarily like some things, somebody comes out and says that they don't necessarily like some things, those people see that as a, oh, against me is how that feels.

Not that that's right. I'm just saying that's reality of the situation. And there was a lot of people that felt that way. A lot of people that felt that way. A lot of people very jacked up. She was the one that missed the PK. Yeah, apparently Foxy as well. Yeah, Foxy is. I mean, that was kind of – that was going to blame VAR.

I will say the SportsCenter the next morning conveniently didn't show. I didn't even know. No, I just saw it for the first time this morning. It was cool. No, I'm talking about Rapinoe. When I woke up in the morning with the baby, wife and I, turned on SportsCenter. What happened

last night? Give me a whole rundown. They gave me a rundown, early sex in history. Then they did a full, like, Megan Rapinoe montage. Goodbye. And then they did an interview with her where she said, like, she was laughing and smiling about the dark comedy, about missing one. Oh, yeah, yeah. And she never misses that.

And I was like, miss one. And then I went back. So they didn't, you know, so now people are like, and look at that. Yeah. ESPN's hiding that Rapinoe. So it's just a no-win situation because she has become such a trigger for people both ways. She also missed so bad that she hit a bye in the head. Yeah.

I don't know if she was able to kick it back in time, like 10 it or whatever, but I did see Biden get hit in the back of the head with a soccer ball. I also saw the lady that got hit on the house 700 yards away from Happy Gilmore. Yep, that's right. That one was there. A lot of good ones. The internet. The internet this weekend was great.

Alexi Wallace got murdered. Yes, he did. Not as bad as those white guys on the dock, but still murdered. There was a race fight in Alabama. Fuck off. I'll tell you what. That one had some real passion. Yeah, it did. There was a kid swimming across a river.

Oh, shit! This ain't happening here! This morning, Black Twitter had a field day. Not just yesterday, but this morning. This morning, I saw somebody tweet, going to the gym this morning to work on one thing and one thing alone. That's overhead chair shots.

And I just started dying laughing because that motherfucker taking that thing it was like the rock on kurt angle's head yeah boom nuts boom boom everybody got a little ken shamrock yeah sorry not kurt angle ken shamrock all of mankind those are old school chair shots that guy's swimming across the dock he didn't even know anybody who was in the fight. He was just jumping in. Just unofficially scoring it. The whites lost.

Yeah. They had him in the first quarter. Yep. The whites had it in the first quarter. But boy, oh boy. That shot of them not being able to get the boat out of there. Yeah. Oh, man.

There's not one person that feels bad. No. No. At all. That's just good internet baby That's right Good internet Be better people to everybody

I hope everybody down there Not all white people are like that And on the flip side Not all black people are like that But if you're going to be a white person That is just openly racist in public There's a chance you're going to get your fucking ass kicked There's a chance you're going to get your head split open with a steel chair

That's going to happen Yeah fucking ass kicked. You're going to get your head split open with a steel chair. That's going to happen. That was good internet. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. What X did to that video, too. I saw that video 7,000 times yesterday. Edited, remixed. Oh, yeah.

I was just waiting, okay? I get it. I've seen this a bunch of times. Give me the one with fucking Jim Ross over the top. Sure enough, about five minutes later, there it was. Was it the chair shot or which one was it? Yeah, yeah. Oh, don't hit her with that chair.

How about when the old white who hates this show is actually the avatar of all the tweets about me being the reason why everything's gone. Him trying to sneak attack Buddy. Oh. And then Cuz catching him last second and boom. And then, oh. It was on. He's the one that ends up getting the chair shot.

Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah. All right, let's go to a ends up getting the chair shot. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah. All right. Let's go to a break. AJ Hawk will be on the other side. Did you just see it? Yep.

Him trying to cheap shot the guy? No, the chair shot. Yeah. So right before that, he thinks he's going to clean somebody up, like full cheap shot. You see him get excited, his body. And then all of a sudden, last second, boom. What a time. Boom!

What a time. And joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a father of 10, a COVID survivor, a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and a man that is so good at his job. He wins so many awards. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Yay! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Walk in the barbershop, give me the AJ Hawk, please! You look good, bud. Jeez, you're glowing! Oh my God. What's up? How's it going? You keep fucking around, Tom Brady's going to be trying to date you. You look like a supermodel right now, bro.

Why? What's he doing? Is Tom bouncing around with other gals? Supermodels only, cuz. He's the greatest of all time, is what he says. But, like, you are starting to look like it. Have you seen yourself today? Wow. Whoa. I've only just seen myself for the first time, but, I mean, honestly, hey, I didn't think Foxy had it in him.

Put up Rapinoe up there when you were talking about the U.S. Dude, how... Bold. She was smiling. I thought she made it. He's the voice of reason, usually. He. She was smiling. I thought she made it. He's the voice of reason usually. He's like the control. Is he?

I don't know if that's the case. Not after hanging out with his booze bag dad this weekend. That's true. He did go back to Michigan, celebrated the five-year-old booze with his dad. It could have changed a little bit. Dad, good guy, family, good people. But, yeah, I didn't expect what he did there either. No.

I was just as surprised as everybody else actually had a – Yeah hell fox so you were looking for this not yeah obviously not this bingo that's on me that'll happen it's funny that your brain did that though hey alexi lawless is getting it on the shins and i assume we're going to too and that's why we all had to make it very clear hey that was a kid from michigan state yeah that's right so the kid rocker that was me it was michigan state that did that you know what i mean no uh what did alexi say so he basically just said like when you start taking political stances and then it doesn't go well like there's gonna be blowback like once you get into politics world there's a lot of people that are gonna hate you immediately like that's just what the politics

world is megan had to know that. So then whenever she misses, like, if that's LeBron, okay? Yeah. If that's LeBron James, which is what Megan Rapinoe is, two World Cups. You know, she's going to be a conversation about one of the greatest women's soccer players of all time, everything like that. So if that was LeBron, and LeBron misses a free throw shooting shootout, okay, and they end up losing, LeBron is getting cooked, killed by everybody, everybody, just absolutely slaughtered. And I'm not saying, you know, it wouldn't be well warranted, but it would be ruthless. So we kind of saw a similar thing happening with Megan Rapinoe

whenever this U.S. Women's National Team World Cup kind of kicked off. And then all of a sudden it doesn't go well. And in her first couple minutes, she misses like two sitters when she gets subbed in. And everybody's like, oh, oh, oh, oh. And then for it to end that way, the people that don't like Rapinoe, they must have woke up and just splurged all over the place. I mean, that had to be dream come true didn't they have two or three girls

miss PK so like she bailed them out basically we're not talking about them well that's the thing though like we are the the other side there was yeah okay I got you there was some you know like Alexi Lawless

was one of the only ones Car you there was some you know like alexia lawless was one of the only one carly lloyd was one of the only ones everybody for the game though before that game carly came out right and was talking about first game or the second second game after the tie when they got in she was not happy i'm by sick of it carly lloyd's hands and taking pictures yeah we didn't win anything what are we talking we just got the round of 16 no shit carly's like if we lose the next game it'll be the earliest exit yeah that's what she was thinking in her head there but everybody else you know because megan rapinoe has accomplished a lot in the women's soccer world

right now granted she didn't mention any of those things whenever she was asked what her most favorite or whatever accomplished feat fulfilling feat and she just said equal pay as opposed to like okay being one of the greatest u.S. women's soccer players of all time, two World Cups, girls around the country are looking up to our team, still wanting to do this and everything like that. She said equal pay. So that's how she views herself. She's a political activist.

Like that is literally who she is. So whenever things go wrong in the sports world, you get cooked. And whenever you're in a political world, you're going to get cooked. So that's two things kind of going to kind of cook you so for foxy to just bury her yeah that was kind of crazy i mean unexpected but expected i guess in the same see i didn't even know about all that i just knew she's the leader of the team and she missed her kick so that's who has to take the blame when you're the leader you got to take the blame are you talking about sports yeah sports not politics here that's not what we're talking about. We're kind of talking about the intersection of both,

which has been happening way too much, I think, in a lot of people's lives. Sport politics. A couple years. Now, that is something that I appreciate, though, like when people take a stand and want to make a change and everything like that. So, hopefully, time will heal all wounds. In 10 years from now, 20 years from now, we'll talk about Megan Rapinoe being two-time World Cup champion

for the United States of America, and everybody will be able to give her her flowers. Because right now, it ain't like that. No, it's going to take some time. It's going to take some time. They'll come around. I can't believe that. I didn't think they could be knocked out this quickly. I thought, okay, we still got some time.

They can go advance still somehow. Yeah, people hadn't even started paying attention. Hey, we're not even there yet. This isn't technically the World Cup. This is just all the qualifying stuff for it. No, no. No, no. This is the World Cup, my friend.

This is the World Cup. This is the actual World Cup. Yeah. This is the tournament. I'm sorry. I apologize. You're a part of the problem. Wow.

You are the problem. Look at this media member. I mean, he started this. It's just the World Cup. We're just talking about the earliest exit out of the World Cup. Ever. This ain't the – I didn't even know we were – Well, he said, how about we're pogged, though, Mr. X?

Rapinoe. Yeah, it's Rapinoe. You chauvinistic pig. Wow. Okay. Okay. How does that have anything to do with their male or female team? Because the male team, was it last year or a couple years ago,

they got knocked out earlier than they ever had, right? We even make it make it it was two that's what i'm saying yeah we remember we were gonna win right lost in the first the one before that we weren't but i will say this just as we wrap up the soccer and if you want to call gumpy real quick to help us out with this as we wrap up the soccer from an international standpoint here, this men's team, they got an English kid that said, I want to play in America. After their scoring, a lot of this with the USA. Oh yeah, kissing it. A lot of USA. A lot of like, yeah.

That's what I think that is smart. I think that is what people would hope for with the United States of America team that is representing our country that is out there. You know, like like should at least potentially act like you like what you're playing who you're playing how you're playing for you know uh that men's team i think is going to be much more popular going forward and that's good for all

parties because the equal pay thing yeah that's right uh the equal pay thing that megan rapinoe didn't make happen they all kind of split the. Everybody in the men's team and the women's team made $300,000 at the end of the day for their World Cup appearances. Awesome. I think the men's team brought in $13 million. The women's team brought in $3 point something million. That's TV rights deals, I'd assume. Yeah, probably. And merch and stuff like that.

Yeah. And then they combine that and then it is split equally amongst all the men's team and all the women's team that were on the World Cup rosters. So we'll see how that ends up balancing out going forward, who goes where, you know what I mean? Because now we're seeing, you know, like, Kaitlyn Clark, Angel Reese, Livvy Dunn.

There's a lot of younger female athletes that are generating a lot of capital right now. A lot of eyes, a lot of partnerships, a that are generating a lot of capital right now. A lot of eyes. A lot of partnerships. A lot of advertising. Needle-moving stuff. I think as it continues to go, it'll start to get crazy about my daughter. Okay?

She's going to be on that team in about 16 years. Oh, yeah. Okay? Four World Cups from now. Phil's daughter is going to carry the U.S. Women's National Team here in about three World Cups. And then Kenzie's coming in at the age of 17. She's going to carry a couple. And then, obviously, sister quincy's going to be here and there's we got a whole team ready to go but i will be excited to see how that number changes because you would assume that the men's team that brought in 13 million dollars and the women's team

brought in three and then them being put into one pile there's going to be some disgruntled people but we don't know what the future looks like in any form or fashion what we do know is that the united states of america is home to the greatest player on earth that's right yeah we do know that soccer is something people talk about yeah and it's not because the world cup no no it's because the guy that won the world cup last year has taken over the mls so quickly so fantastically. And I have no idea what his share of Apple sign-ups are for the MLS, but it's got to be fucking

huge. Because I'm tuning in as soon as I see his little pink shirt wearing ass, jog on a field. Last night he had two goals, one of them being a free kick with four minutes left in the game tied up to send the penalties, and then he scores, obviously, a penalty kick to win the whole thing. He's phenomenal.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, our footy expert, Bubba Gumpino. Yay, Gump! Gumpy, is this just going to be forever? Is this what this guy does? This is fantastic. Dude, he's a fucking goat, man. Everyone's like, it's rigged. Rig it all you want.

Nobody's putting that free kick top bins, dude. That was absurd. Well, we watched some people from about 12 yards out you know the other day in the world cup yep they weren't able to put stuff in a bucket yeah it's about this big like old methi is able to do from 24 yards away 25 yards away seemingly at will at ease this is how he's been everywhere and when does he sign to become a united States citizen so that he can play for the United States of America

in the World Cup? People are going back. He wasn't happy at PSG. People are finding old pitchers. I clipped it last night. There's literally after they win the shootout, he's just grinning like the butcher's dog running down the field. He didn't have that happiness at PSG. He's got

his old lads from barca with him there too like he seems really fucking happy in miami dude i think so too it seems like it's all working out they were in last place right in the mls now he joins the team leagues cup is over now we're getting back into the rankings and standings how quickly can they move and why are they still underdogs in these games so the leagues cup still goes till i'm not sure how much longer but they have 12 games left two in hand and they have two games on turf in atlanta and charlotte last game of the season so he won't play on the turf but they should win every other game they should be able to make up the 12 points, and then if they

get in, I mean, if they're in, I imagine. What's their, they're like plus 3,100 or 1,300? What was it to win? 1,200. They're absolutely, they're going to get in. They just got to find a way to get in, man. It's just that 12, making up for that 12 points.

Come on, Gump. Let's get real, Gump. They have to get in. If Methi is not in whatever these playoffs may be. Nobody's watching. No, it has to happen, Gump. You know that. Yeah, no shit.

So not only does he have to get in, they're obviously going to win it all, right? This is how this goes. He's just going to win it. He's good enough alongside Busquets and Joseph Martinez and Robert Taylor. Robert Taylor's been good. Jordy Alba at the back. just going to win it he's good enough alongside busquets and joseph martinez and paul taylor but robert taylor robert taylor's being a geordie alba at the back now you know who i think they're

going to get and it won't happen this year they'll get sergio ramos who's out of contract right now i think he'll be their center back probably next year i don't think they'll have time to bring him in this year but he would be a huge difference for them at the back. Them being plus 1,200 to win the MLS seems like, right? Doesn't that seem like? He was plus 400 last night to score two goals. I got greedy and bet him for a hat trick, so I lost that one. Close, though. Penalties. Two goals every game is fucking like the best bet going, dude.

It's absurd. They were cooked. It was over with like 10 minutes left. He scores eight minutes in to game one, seven minutes in to game two, six minutes in to game three. So he's got to keep going here. You know what I mean? If he doesn't score in five minutes, this guy has gotten stale.

This guy has maybe got too comfortable in the MLS. Is the league ever going to be able to stop this dude, Gump, or the MLS just sucks? You see when he plays the top team, like Cincinnati is a top team, Columbus, Nashville. New England.

Unless they make him play on his hands and knees, it doesn't matter. He's so much better than everyone else on the field. It's laughable. You don't know soccer. I don't, but I love watching it, and I won't watch it if he's not playing. The best part is all the Ronaldo marks who are all upset about it

because nobody's covering him scoring goals in Saudi. It's like, yeah, no shit, dude. It's fucking America, dude. Bro, Saudi got it wrong. Yes, they did. You needed Methi. Needed Methi. MLS got it right.

They did. We'll sign Methi, a couple guys from Bartha. Then we'll be able to do our thing down there with Beckham looking super cool. Yeah. In his suits with his sweet tats all the time. Yep. They got it figured out. And Apple did too.

You know, Apple's offering the Pac-12 shit because Apple's seen success here with the affiliate link. You know, the MLS did this. It's great. Like, Messi just puts up an IG story. Have Oregon put up an IG story. Just have it go in there. It's like, Messi's got, what, 49 million followers? 490.

It's a little bit different. 490 million followers, and he is electrifying every single fucking time. How does he have the mental toughness to be awesome all the time? I don't get it. The game just slows down for him, it feels like. Like, it's just, everything just comes to him, man. It's unbelievable. Like you said, he's just fucking walking around.

Everyone's like, how's he so open? It's like, man, he just fucking reads the game and slides in. Like, that's part of his greatness, dude. It's not that fucking nobody can find him. Yeah, it's not that he can jump 55 inches like Cristiano Ronaldo or Super Handsome, which he is, by the way. He's been taking his shirt off a little bit. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. After the game. That's Miami. A lot of jobs. Letting people know, like, Beckham's like, hey, why don't you take that, you know? Show him. Let's fucking move some person. This is America.

Also, no disrespect to the MLS, but they basically, it's like me and Connor out there, like, hey, you got to mark Messi today. All right? We need you to fucking shut him out. That it's like me and Connor out there like, hey, you got to mark Messi today. All right? We need you to fuck him. That's not real. Shut him out. That's not real. They're trying to mark this guy.

Well, they're trying. That's the other thing with Messi is that he didn't just come over here like I don't have to train. He trained the hardest he's ever trained before to play in the MLS, and we're seeing why he is the GOAT because he takes his game to the next level, and he had to do that with the MLF. And he knows that the MLS was going to be tough. Bingo. And he just, you know what I mean? He knew that

this was going to be a real challenge for him. Other leagues, he's scoring four or five goals a game. Put Messi and Foudy, they'd have to chop his head off if he wanted to stop scoring goals. All right. That's the end of soccer talk. That's what they'd have to do. That's the end of it. I should say, we should really kind of temper the enthusiasm.

We'll see what he does when he goes up to Seattle and plays the Sounders. That'll be like the truth. He won't play in Seattle because it's a turf. See? So there's the litmus test. Best team in the league, best franchise in the history of the league. Seattle can make the trip down to Miami and see him on that pitch. They'll do it.

They'll do it. He's awesome, Gumpy. Congrats to soccer for figuring that out. Who's going to win the Women's World Cup? England beat Nigeria today. I think England wins it, although Dutch is a bit of a dark horse, I think. I think they knock off Spain in the round of 16 as a big underdog. You're the man.

See you soon, ladies and gentlemen. Gumpy. There you go. AJ, you seem to be a little bit concerned that methie might miss the playoffs no there's no chance he's missing the playoffs zero chance that they miss the play i don't care what place they're in you think i don't know anything i know nothing about it if he misses the playoffs it's an absolute travesty they would not let that they'll do what the nba did where they're like all right actually we'll have teams four more 13 and 14 play against 15 and 16 and

then if you gotta lose two but if you win you've earned your way right zion has earned his way right there's no way think about it do you think there's any way they missed the playoffs no no dude did you have you watched this guy fucking play that's what i'm saying like even if you're not trying to pay attention to any of it you still it still pops up to you it still pops up in your feed like oh methi there he goes another three goals or whatever he's doing and this is one of those things where it feels like in sports we hype everything yeah always right like everything gets hyped so much and then sometimes in those moments very few and far between the people show up you know methie got hyped so loud yes i mean let alone worldwide wins the world cup and they sold out an arena right just to introduce him yeah stadium fucking stadium yeah

they sell that out and this guy's psg they did the same thing didn't work out here they do it sell out the whole stadium they fill up they do a welcome party waves he's at the public's he's doing the whole thing mls is kind of they're basically hemorrhaging their entire league on this guy's shoulders. Apple's deal with MLS is kind of hemorrhaging the entire thing on this guy's shoulders. The entire league, Adidas in the MLS, whole thing with this. And then he just shows up and is like, yeah, they made the right decision. Everybody made the right decision. Now, I don't know if he speaks English.

Does he speak English? I need to figure that one out. I think so. Broken, I think. He's broken. Translator, right? Yeah, I mean. Come on.

I haven't seen the postgame. He has to by now, right? I figured. Probably here and there, but I don't know if he's fluent enough to actually or be confident enough to give an interview and speak English the whole time. Him and LeBron. Zito just looked up and said the internet says he does not speak English. So I assume that means he has a translator.

What he is behind the scenes, who knows how good his English is. But if he gets that done, the MLF becomes a real deal. Oh, yeah, next level. I'm just talking about from a marketing standpoint of him. Yeah. Being here, this has got to be the longest time that he will spend in America. So I would assume he definitely will want to pick it up. I hope so, too.

You see his place down in Miami? Sweet. Is he on, like, Star Island or whatever? Yeah. I do believe Billionaire Island or whatever. His place got a, you know, he's got a car. He's got an elevator thing? Yeah, for his car up to his penthouse.

You see Aaron's new house over there in Jersey? Have you seen that? Man, pretty sweet, huh? A lot of windows. That's going to get real hot when the sun's out. You know what I mean? Real hot. I'm sure he's going to be worried about that air conditioning, Bill.

You're right. He better get some good blinds. Yeah, dude. He's going to have to regulate that sun coming in there. I didn't see one drywall wall out there. No. He's living in a glass house, which is dangerous. He's been living in a glass house, though.

That's right. His entire life, it's almost like a fishbowl he moved into. Because maybe this is a symbolic purchase. Could be. This is him moving into the fishbowl saying, this is what my life has been. Everybody talks about me in the darkness. I'm most comfortable in a fishbowl. All eyes on me.

And I've seen some of those windows because the way they have the light to turn on it does act like it's a magnifying glass almost so people are looking at his every single move when he's in there whether he's wiping his butt not wiping his butt they're gonna see it i'm happy that he moved in there with everything he's been saying in doing now not that he won't be able to sell that house for 12 million he just bought it for nine and a half million probably in two years somehow yeah like that's just seemingly how it works hold on to it so he can have a house to go to in 20 years when he comes to town. Yeah.

Just like the raw land. I think I still got that place out there. I'm going to go check it out. Hey, let's have an event. I think I got that. Remember that glass house? Yeah. Yeah.

Put it in there. That'd be cool. That'd be fun. Got that raw land down in Nashville. You guys want to go paintballing? But anyways, he buys that house, and then he's also talking about playing numerous years. He's happy as fuck.

He threw a pick to Sauce Gardner this weekend, but at the same note, I assume he threw a couple touchdowns as well and called one for Zach Wilson in that Hall of Fame game. And we have that clip right now. It's actually pretty sweet. I think he actually drops into Zach Wilson's ear and tells him exactly what to do on the play, and then it happens exactly how he kind of said it to Zach Wilson.

Great call by Aaron Rodgers. He called that one. Had a little shout out there. I'm ready for a bomb. Throw it up to Malik. Touchdown. Throw it to Malik. I think that's in his.

He pressed the button. You saw Aaron press the button first. It was a throw to Malik. Yeah. Right in front of him, too. Yeah, man. I knew it. I knew it. the button first. It was a throw to Malik. Yeah. Right in front of him, too. Awesome. Look how fucking happy he is. That's a Hall of Fame game, dude.

Look how pumped he is. Shoot pumped right there. Hard Knocks tomorrow is going to be awesome. Yes. I think Hard Knocks is going to be fantastic. I can't wait to get a look from what's happening behind closed doors because outside looking in looks like a match made in heaven. Aaron Rodgers and his New York Jets team.

Is that what you're hearing, and how do you feel about it all? Yeah, that's what it feels like. I think Sala's going to be great on there as well. I would assume we'll see a lot of – don't you think Sala probably sat him down and was trying to, like, de-recruit everybody because everything is so positive and everyone thinks they're going to win the super bowl so he probably comes in it's like hey guys we haven't we haven't won one game yet this year we're going to put in the work and all that stuff what are you hearing from aaron seems pretty happy man seems very happy

with his place and everything see are you happy could you win or do you win good question because you're happy you know that's a question find But whenever you're happy, you're probably a little bit more dialed in. When you're working for people and with people that you enjoy and you feel appreciated in fulfillment, you're probably going to dive in a little bit more

into certain things. Relationships, networking, film, practice, details. Literally everything kind of comes with it. We had Shane Steichen in here, and he said said whenever we do the combine interviews you know chris ballard does his thing with gms all i want to know is does the guy love ball yeah yeah okay if you love if you love ball everything else kind of falls in place meetings film training recovery rehab everything falls into place if you love what you're doing so that's all shane steichen wants to know and i found that pretty interesting because it's real whenever you're enjoying what you're doing you're going

to invest more time in what you're enjoying just naturally so that whole refreshed re-energized thing that we're seeing i think that's a real a real benefit for aaron rogers and for the new york jets and on the flip side i think the Packers are still going to be good. So do I. The internet doesn't, though. No. I didn't know that. Did you know that, AJ?

Why? Are they saying Jordan Love's not going to be the guy? Bingo. People are coming after Ty because Ty said that. I saw that nice little bullet he threw in the family night scrimmage that Ty posted. Bro, threw two players, too, finding a passing window that won't get deflected and being able

to hit Aaron Jones. I mean, that's like a beautiful that looked like, you know, that looked like Aaron. Turned his body and everything like a tough throw and threw a laser right there. It was good. Yeah, so Ty says, like, I've come around that the Packers are going to win the North again and did a whole speech. And I saw, like,

Packers fans and everybody being like, not this year. Not this year. Why? I didn't know that. Why is that? I don't know. I mean, I think part of it is all the hype that the Lions are getting, and rightfully so. They are good.

I mean, they're kind of reaching their apex of how bad they were last year, and then they go on that big winning streak. They beat the Packers to keep them out of their playoffs. But it's the same thing. It's like you can either watch all these clips from training camp, regardless of who your team is, and you can either be super pessimistic and be like, oh, they're going to fucking suck this year, or you can just take it in stride and be like,

you can watch any of these clips of Jordan Love and realize, like, he has come a long way since they first drafted him. Like, there's no two ways about it. He's picked up a bunch of shit from Rodgers. He's way more comfortable in their offense. And, like, yeah, they're still going to be growing pains. It's not like I'm out here saying, hey, the Packers are going to win 14 games this year.

Like, they're still, yeah, they're not going to be as good as they were with Rodgers. So, to that point about us reading and reacting to these training camp practices, which is all we have, there was a piece this morning I was watching on GetUp. It was, I think Lamar Jackson's thrown seven picks in nine practices. I think Jimmy G threw four picks this weekend in a practice. Baker.

I think Baker Mayfield, maybe he was the seven in nine. I forget. Whatever. They were talking about all these picks that are being thrown by these quarterbacks. Now, that's first year in all these offenses. Yeah. So they have no idea where things are going to be or what things are going to go and normally the first couple weeks of

training camp easier for the defense because see ball get ball as opposed to have him be at the exact same point at the exact same time we shouldn't be reading too much into this and on the flip side how do you feel about jordan love i honestly i feel pretty good about jordan love i called one of his games in college and that dude could slang it it. He really could. But I think, like Ty said, he does look way more comfortable now when I just watch clips of him, or just even watching him interact with his teammates. He seems to have grown a lot and be a lot more comfortable now.

So, I mean, we'll see what they do as a team. I would definitely not good or bad. I don't take a whole lot into all these clips that come out. Like, we see unbelievable catches being made that are crazy freak catches it's awesome you see like the one-on-ones a lot they try to tell you who won in the one-on-ones between the o-linemen and like the outside rushers i don't put too much into that but it's never a bad thing

if your team has a lot of good plays out there or your your favorite team your favorite players has a lot of highlights out in camp like it's not a bad thing it never will be just expectations get lifted a little bit more than what they are. Like, for instance, Anthony Richardson. Of course. He's 255. Is that right? Yeah.

Still growing. That's awesome. I don't want to tackle that dude ever. That's the same size as feared running back Derrick Henry. No, it's bigger than Derrick Henry. If you're going to read these incredible tweets, read them. Okay? I don't. Can't read them. I can't. I won't. I just read the quotes. You guys are old guys yelling at clouds right now. Yeah. Okay? I don't.

Can't read them. I can't. I won't. I just read the quotes. You guys are old guys yelling at clouds right now. No, no, no, no. I would have said that. I'm sick and tired of the fucking putting reportedly in there eight times like this guy's talking.

All of these guys are talking to every single scout. Sounds like you're a little envious of ML football. Not at all. NFL rookie watch. JPA football. Wide, wide, wide, wide. All the same person. I put one of these out this morning in the exact format and guess what?

No one knew what I was doing. Anyone can do it. You can reportedly see everything. Are people getting mad at you for doing it? Yeah, a lot of people who didn't get the joke, but that's fine. Oh, they didn't get the joke. I hope that dude found his wallet. No, he's done.

ML Football is currently in Israel without his wallet. Oh, so he's never coming back. No, we think he'll be okay. ML Football. ML Football will figure it out. But with that being said, the boys have kind of turned their toxic negativity towards a certain style of reporting these days. NFL Rookie Watch, I think this is a great right answer.

This is amazing. What are we upset about? Bingo. Thank you, AJ. You and I are what we like to call not haters. These boys certainly are. We're not haters like they are. You want to cry, I'll cry. Yeah, we're not jaded like they are. You ought to cry on them.

Cry on them. Yeah, we're not jaded at all. We are crying at them. Yeah, people are saying these are the four horsemen of the Twitter NFL apocalypse. Did you see that? Apocalypse is a good thing? No. No, no, no.

Bad thing. That's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. They said ML football, JPA football, NFL rookie watch, and one other guy, Dove Kleiman, are the four. That is just a tweet that has been seen. I think he's also in Israel. Really?

I think. What's going on over there? They're probably getting sources. That's what these boys are doing. We're girls. We appreciate them. There are sources in Lebanon. Come again?

You'll get there. Was that like a – That was an Epstein i think yeah yeah okay really okay that's from a that's from a blurry video yeah that was on the internet three weeks it was him and it was him and then i heard israel and i sent me right back into there well that seems allegedly a spa yeah remember that's what that one doctor i don't know if that was an iron dome joker interesting let's anyways thank you to NFL Rookie Watch for pointing this out. But this dude, everything coming out of camp is great.

In his nose, you see there, he had a nasal septum. Oh, deviated septum. Deviated septum. He got drilled out? He must have got drilled out. Yeah, that's painful. I think he missed one practice, and then he was right back out with the ones the next day or whatever. Everything coming out of camp is how incredible he is.

And I would just like to let everybody know I'm buying all the hype all of it yeah seeing him live was awesome and i think whenever people get to see him you know when cam newton came into the league we all had uh similar thoughts you know cam newton uh in college it was able to work but will he be able to do what he i mean that's just an unbelievable play throw and catch yeah unbelievable catch too yeah alec pierce yeah out of cincinnati who kind of quiet last year got injured a little bit they say if it's in his area the motherfucker's catching it like that's what he's kind of known for around the building it's like there's a lot of hype coming out of the colts practices now first year offense so there's going to be days that he struggles in practice but all the hype's coming out i'm buying into it aj you know what know what I mean? Like, I'm buying into it. They have hope.

I mean, think of the last five, six, seven weeks of the season for the Indianapolis Colts last year. There wasn't a whole lot of hope going on. Now there's plenty of hope, though, for real. I don't know about Jonathan Taylor, what the hope is there, but I feel like as far as the quarterback situation, we feel pretty good. Well, spaceships don't come equipped

with rear-view mirrors. They dip, okay? We're not thinking about the last five, six games last year with Jeff Saturday as coach. Jeff Saturday had to come in there and try to change the culture. He was the one that said, hey, wear your shin guards like your Stephon Diggs at Fashion Week. Go in there and let these people know, you know, you can't be late to treatment, to meetings, to practice.

Boom, bang, a little accountability. And then Shane Steichen comes in with an offense in a, I think, accountability call with Anthony Richardson being alongside of him. I think we've got a little accountability. And then Shane Steichen comes in with an offense in a, I think, accountability call with Anthony Richardson being alongside of him. I think we've got a culture change. I'm pumped about it, but it is the time to be super pumped for your team to potentially go on and win it all.

I was watching some stuff about the Detroit Lions this year, and you mentioned them about the NFC North, about why people don't think the Packers could maybe win the North because there's so much hype around the Lions. The Lions being picked to play on opening day, okay, by the NFL, is like when sportsbooks give an odds on something and none of us were like, whoa, sportsbooks have a lot of respect for this team.

So it's not just hype, like sportsbooks. Like the NFL has a lot of respect for the Detroit Lions. It's not just their fans. It's not just us hyping up how much everybody loves Dan Campbell who has this added to his repertoire of quotes about the weight of the pressure of expectations. They're all coming. No, I don't feel weight. I feel wind underneath my freaking wings, man.

That's what I feel. Truthfully? Truthfully. It uplifts you. Absolutely i love this man this is outstanding i love our fans i love that man they feel it like we feel it and uh no this is not a burden this is not pressure this is not weight this is man this gives me inspiration is what it does for me and our guys. Some people are supposed to be coaches, you know?

So whenever they say, wait on your shoulders that you've got to deliver for this first time ever or first time since when? Sellout season tickets? First time in Ford Field history. Ford Field was built in 2002. Okay, first time in 20-plus years. It could be a lot longer. That is a full sellout at least.

And he's like, do you feel the pressure? The fans are like, why don't you win? He's like, pressure, man. No, the other way, dude. Yeah. Wind underneath my wings, man. You know how they say, man, that like planes, right? You need the wind on top and the wind on bottom to get lift, man.

These fucking Lions fans are lifting me, man. Yeah, this is a fucking tailwind, man. This isn't a headwind. No way, man. We're going faster going into the season, man. This is what we want, man. This is inspirational, man. What a fucking answer, first of all.

Yeah. And also, the NFL has bought in on Dan Campbell for them to be good. And with these throws I'm seeing out of Goff, did you see these two outs? Yeah, and I feel like the overwhelming – I feel like Goff, obviously, this was a throwing catch. Hold on. Different play. Not on. Different play. Not repeat.

Different play. Boom. Just run that play ten times. In the spot. Every single drive. I mean, geez. Go ahead, AJ. Sorry about that.

The only thing, Goff, I feel like – I mean, I don't know him personally, but I feel like Goff looks like he's much more confident. He had a great year last year. He played well. And the Lions are on the map and, like, here we go. I think that's a great answer by Dan Campbell. It's true. Like, nah, I mean, they know, he knows that his players see and hear everything, especially now players know what's going on. So yeah,

like don't try to run from it. Don't try to hide. And it's a good thing. Hey, people think we they're taking us seriously. Now that's a positive. That's a good thing. We should use that for our, for ourselves. You earn this pressure is what people started describing pressure it started being the mindset like yeah you earn this type of pressure because of all your hard work all your success if you stunk and nothing happened you wouldn't be feeling this right now so this is a celebration as opposed to a burden i appreciate coach dan campbell former teammate of his uh and also absolute legend in our world, ladies and gentlemen, the General Bob Carpenter. Talk to me, Bob.

Hey, listen, I want to let you know I am so pumped to be chatting with you today. And also, I think we can make an announcement right now. Let's do it. The General Bob Carpenter will be joining us every single week this college football season for the General's Top 5 every single Wednesday what yeah we can't wait can't wait for that we appreciate you doing that the boys are obviously saluting their general who saved big 10 football and that's

kind of what we brought you in here to chat about is college football and we do hey we appreciate you bob for doing that um but college football is looking a little bit different it seems like about a year from now transitions are happening all over the place what are your thoughts on where the big 10 sits currently and where do you think everything ends up with college football bob man it's wild i mean if you look at this i don't think a year ago anybody would have anticipated getting here and this seemed like it was going to be the year that was much more laid back. You know, we had Texas, we had Oklahoma two years ago, USC and UCLA,

the announcement last year. And this season, like, all right, you know, maybe Buffalo or the Colorado Buffaloes are flirting with maybe going back to the Big 12, but that would potentially be it. Everybody acknowledge, hey, the Pac-12, they're probably going to slide off into the Pacific ocean eventually, but Hey, you know what? It's going to be fine for this last year. And then lo and behold, I go up to Canton this weekend and the world falls apart. I'm trying to keep track of what's going on with college football,

Oregon, Washington, hopping into the big 10, the Arizona schools in Utah, they're jumping into the big 12. Now you have four teams just sitting out there left on the West Coast trying to figure out where the heck they belong and who they fit with. And the problem is geography. I don't know if there's enough teams out there then that are big enough that would worthy like a major style conference that would be equal to what the Pac-12 was. Go ahead, AJ.

Bob, so ultimately, let's say five years from now, how many conferences do you think there are in college football? And is there any chance, let's say the Big Ten, they're going to keep adding teams. Are they going to start booting teams too? Can they kick people out? Well, that's the question right there. I think a lot of people wouldn't probably mind

if there was a couple teams that exited the Big Ten on the chances of possibly bringing in maybe like a Notre Dame, maybe a North Carolina, or whoever. I mean, if you can get those schools, you like that. But the reality is I don't think you're going to boot anybody. We haven't seen that happen. That would be unprecedented. I think they probably end up going to probably a three-team conference format.

You're talking the Big Ten, you're talking the SEC, and then probably some compilation over the next 10're talking the Big Ten, you're talking the SEC, and then probably some compilation over the next 10 years of the Big 12 and ACC kind of getting poached around. And, you know, a couple of teams joined the Big Ten, a couple of teams joined the ACC or SEC. And then all of a sudden, you know, whatever's left kind of merges together. And that's kind of it. And it was a remarkable age. I talked to, I remember having a conversation with Jim Trestle, our head coach, probably like 2008. And he told me he's like, in 20 years, there'll be four major conferences, like 16 to 18 teams apiece.

And I thought it was crazy because I'm thinking, no way are these conferences going to merge. Are they going to fall apart like that? And then lo and behold, it might not even be four. It maybe looks more like three, and it's happened way faster. Yeah, that Pac-12 fell apart overnight with that Apple deal being announced or presented at least to the teams like, hey, you'll get $23 million and a chance, huh?

Get subscribers, a little bit more money. It's like, wait a minute, everybody else is getting like $30, $40 million and everybody else, yeah, you guys could get $60, $70. How many people click on the link? You know, you'll do that. And they're all like, peace, we are out of here. That seemingly took place overnight. Excited to watch what happens this year.

This is the last year of all these people and these things. It's like we're taking a tractor another round. Last time. But last time. Only one more round. We're taking this whole thing. Let's enjoy it. I think the good thing, though, Bob, if you start looking around,

seemingly all the big rivals were going together. So we're still keeping the rivalries, I think, which is probably a massive piece of it for the presidents and also for the overall state of college football. Do you agree with that? Well, we are keeping some. I mean, you look at the Big Ten. Most of those are held intact. You know, Oklahoma and Texas, they're moving together. USC and UCLA are moving together.

But, man, like I grew up, you know, we're all about the same age. I didn't watch a whole lot of Washington, Washington State football, but I'd watch the Apple Cup. You know, I'd go watch the Civil War with Oregon and Oregon State. You know, you'd go watch Bedlam with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Like those are all fractured now. And that does hurt me a little bit. I mean, I'm a fan of nostalgia.

I love what college football represents. I understand we're in a different era now. I'm not the old man just hammering on my wall, yelling it's clouds and drinking beers on the front lawn. I understand what it means, but in reality, too, that doesn't mean I can't be sad because I like to wake up a little hungover on the Friday after Thanksgiving. I'd flip on Washington State and feel better about myself. Yeah, well, listen, some other game will step in there, hopefully. I want Nebraska, baby. you know i'd flip on washington washington state and feel better about myself yeah well listen some

other game will step in there hopefully i went to braska baby but to your point though like oregon washington's a big rivalry though so like that survives i guess with the move to big 10 but those interstate battles are definitely getting left by the wayside what's this arizona state guy saying he's not coming to morgantown. Hey, pal, you fucking stink worse than us. We don't care you're not coming. Just to finish the college football conversation. I don't like that guy talking the way we get it. Scottsdale is awesome.

George, love it. Okay, it is beautiful. We love it as well. But, pal, you go to Morgantown, maybe it'll teach you to have a little bit of something you clearly don't have, which is a little bit of gut sack, pal. Okay, go play some West Virginia air out there. He's building the rivalry.

Be a little bit tougher. Listen, I'll tell you this, Pat. I mean, not to slurp up your alma mater, but I will say for game day experience, game day experience, West Virginia Mountaineers, they're bringing it. They are coming. Thank you. Wow.

It is a strong, strong environment. The folks there, it's an event. They look forward to it. And if you go there, buddy, you better bring your work boots and lunch pail because it's going to be a full day of libations and party times. And your hard hat because there's something. There's a potential something's flying out there. I've been to a couple other colleges, and they have their big event or whatever.

Like here in Indiana, it's a little five. At these other schools, they have like these kind of school things where the alumni come, it's a big party or whatever. That's every single home game in West Virginia. The entire state comes to every single home game in West Virginia. So obviously the stadium can only hold 60, 70,000, whatever it is. The motherfucker's out in the parking lot still. The whole place is shut down.

It's hard to get to. It's difficult to get to. But you're coming to our fucking conference, pal. We run the parking lot still. It is. The whole place is shut down. It's hard to get to. It's difficult to get to. But you're coming to our fucking conference, pal. Okay? We run the Big 12 now. All right? West Virginia, we're beating Penn State week one. Of course.

Oh. Prime time. Sorry about it, Big Ten. You didn't want us either. Yeah. So this is what you got to deal with. Then we're going to beat Duquesne by 1,000. Maybe.

Then we're playing against Pitt, beating them by 100. Sure. And then we're just off and running. And this whole Arizona State guy can pipe down. Now, there's a chance we lose those games. All of them. Every single one of them. And then when Rich Rod comes back to town, he will fight that athletic director

from Arizona State, and I can't wait for that. Let's pivot away from college football. Let's talk about the nostalgia you said that you love, we all love. You went to the Hall of Famous weekend. How was it? Let's pivot away from college football. Let's talk about the nostalgia you said that you love, we all love. You went to the Hall of Famous weekend. How was it? Obviously, you were celebrating former teammates, numerous friends. What was it for you this past weekend?

Yeah, so, I mean, you play with some great players, Pat, you know, AJ as well. I mean, you go there, and I'd never – I'd been to Canton when I was younger. We went one time when I was playing with Detroit. We stopped by in a preseason game to play Cleveland. But to go there and you see there's 160 or 106 gold jacket members that came through, and you see all your former teammates and everybody's aging, and you realize one thing, time is undefeated because these are the greatest players, some of the greatest athletes the world has ever seen. And to watch them go through their 50s, 60s, 70s, it's a sobering reminder that each and every one of us will slowly fade and decay. So that was disappointing. But these parties, man, they are legendary.

My teammates, Zach Thomas, DeMarcus Ware invited me up and hell, I couldn't have had, you know, play with seven or eight Hall of Famers. I get invited by two in one year, my first time there. So I got to split time back and forth. But it was remarkable, you know, getting to see Jimmy Johnson, Dan, the man Marino, you know, all these legends that are there and they're there to have a good time and they're there to enjoy it and then you know joe thomas i never played with him but getting a chance to you know meet him and talk and there's a rumor pat i mean at his party what what's better you're gonna go there you're gonna drink or need some food you know they got uh they brought in a guy from florida georgia line i can't think of his name off the top of my head.

Tyler? Yeah. We're going to get Tyler Hubbard. Awesome. 20 minutes firework show. That's a talented one. Well, the best part about it is when you get in that state of mind, you're definitely going to make some good decisions. So what Joe provided people was a couple of tattoo artists that were going to be there to help facilitate some of those great decisions that would be made late in the evening let's remember this forever come on guys free tattoos on your old friend joe yeah i love the joe went in i thought his speech was great i thought his speech was great i thought zach's speech was good i listened to daryl revis's speech

i enjoyed that there's a couple i had to check out of. No offense. I don't know if we should be allowing kids of Hall of Famers to give full speeches. Spouse, maybe. Joe Thomas was doing that, too? No, he should have. Should have. Yeah, that would have been cool. Should have. But, like, I have a lot of respect for these kids, but they're taking, like, full 15, 20-minute speeches.

It's like, can we do a video package for this whole thing and, like, kind of honor the family? I appreciate what you're doing, but also, like, you know. Come on. Your dad kind of what we're – nonetheless, love honoring the past, love experiencing the past. My big takeaway from Hall of Fame weekend is that it takes a lot of work. You've got to be a badass to be successful. You've got to commit your entire being.

You've got to have a good network behind you, and you've got to be able to have thick skin like Tone Diggs was trying to build on Joe Thomas' kid this weekend where he tweeted that Joe's son, Jack Thomas, was doing this to Steelers fans around the Hall of Fame parade. Tone Diggs quote tweeted that tweet and then called him a loser.

This kid's like, what, eight years old? Tony. Seven years old. He's a child. Tone called him a loser. And I was being told that I need to fire you. Mm-hmm. So I wouldn't let you know that I was being told that. Oh, sorry. You're lucky you didn't get suspended.

Oh, what? Conditionality can't take it. Yeah, we're not allowed to have a rivalry anymore? No. No. You do a thumbs down to the Steelers fans, you're a fucking loser. Okay. No matter how old you are, huh?

No matter how old you are. Wow. Wow. Unbelievable you said that. That's despicable. It is. That's right, though. Well huh? No matter how old you are. Wow. Unbelievable you said that. That's despicable. It is, right, though. Here's the beauty of the rivalry. I'm trying to get canceled.

Here's the beauty of the rivalry, though. Joe Thomas, for his gold jacket ceremony, they have a new thing now where you pick one former player who's in the Hall of Fame to put your gold jacket on. Do you know who Joe Thomas selected? Was it Joe Hayden, maybe? Mr. Jerome Bettis. The boss?

There's a lot of respect going back and forth. Well, Joe, I think everybody respects the hell out of Joe. Yeah. 10,363 consecutive snaps, and it's an unofficial NFL record. Like, we haven't kept track, but we're assuming. Yeah, it's got to be. It's never winning either. 10,363 snaps consecutively all losses so this is an unofficial record but

we think it is what a tough guy what a perfect depiction of football yeah and what a guy who i assume saw your tweet about loser and it's all right jack we're hitting the gym we're fighting this guy in about two three years like any good probably blue collar dad would we appreciate you bob we can't wait for the season with you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Hey, Dan Campbell's that dude, huh? Oh, Dan is the – they call him Dan the Man for a reason.

That dude will smoke and chew at the same time while he's hitting the fifth of jack. Then go coach a football game with a live lion that he's going to ride out onto the stadium. I can't wait to see it. He's been thinking about that since day one. Yeah. He was thinking about bringing the lion out there. Obviously, that is something that has been voted down,

which is a real shame. I don't know what we're trying to do if we're trying to create an atmosphere as a moment or not. But he just gave this speech about the pressure of the success and expectations on his shoulders, and he said, no, no, it's not on top.

No, no, it's wind beneath my wings. Like he flipped it so quick into coach speak. Has he always been that way? Here's the thing. Dan is brutally honest. And like pressure means that people have expectations. Expectations are a great thing in this world. When no one gives a crap about you, Pat,

then what the heck are you out there working for? Like you said, Joe Thomas labored 10,000 plus snaps. You know, he's joked that his last 32 games he won one of them. You know, and the reality is Dan knows. Detroit, I mean, I was up there. You get beat up a lot. And the fact that now people are picking them to win and they're like, they have the underdog culture, dude, just pile it on. That's all good.

We're going to embrace the love and they're going to go out there, man. It's going to be tough to stop because Dan is a tough guy, and we know they'll be ready to play, and this is who he has always been. Bob, you're pretty jocked right now, Bob. Bob, you're pretty jocked. You're pretty jocked right now. You still running sprints with the boys? Did a couple last Tuesday on my birthday, man.

I had to make sure I could still get it because one day it's going to fade and it'll be gone, So I got to hang on. I tied a knot in the end of that rope and I'm hanging on for dear life. Are you still making the times or do you have like a 40 plus year old time? Listen, if I'm going to do it, Pat, we're doing it the only way possible. We're doing it the legit times of what it was 20 years ago. And the day I can't make them anymore, well, that's the day I can't do it. I'll crack open a beer and I'll say thank you.

Yeah, Wyatt, you'll salute yourself for the run how long how long are we doing i did 20 half gassers 17 second run time 30 second rest you're an idiot jesus it's awesome but you're an idiot ladies and gentlemen the general bob carpenter 17 i took yeah that was our test i told told him that was impossible for me four straight years in college to do. He didn't even do any training for it. I asked him if he'd been doing half gassers to get ready. He said, no, I did some 110s. I haven't cut it all yet.

I saw this one here. I saw this one here. He said, Bobby, yeah. Bobby will look like he's completely dead in between each rep, and then he'll go win each rep. I love that. He's trying to get as much energy as possible. Because when you look rep i love that he's trying to get as much energy as possible because when you look completely dead that's when you're using as little energy as possible so it's like get all of it back in here and then

how old am i 40 i need to well bob's the best too because when everyone else is struggling you know guys you run almost as a team in college guys are struggling bob's not scared to walk up and down the line and let people know that they shouldn't be struggling oh really hey we need to pick it up we need to pick it up yeah oh yeah because i mean yeah he's yeah he's an absolute monster you know jock look at this dude fucking look he's got he's got a like assistant strength guy timing him and everything yeah he's got a stopwatch ready go all right and he's saying that's so many half gassers so 20 10 in 17 seconds yeah yeah hearing that strength coach call out the numbers that gives you like ptsd 14 15 16 17 oh close ball yeah that was that was number 20 there he posted that's legitimately what what i just said you said it's giving you ptsd

there yep that's pretty much exactly how it goes you ever run into that fucking strength coach it That's legitimately what I just said you said it's giving you PTSD there? Yep. That's pretty much exactly how it goes. You ever run into that fucking strength coach that doesn't do it, though? No, every strength coach I see does it. Doesn't announce it or doesn't do it? Yeah. No time?

They wouldn't tell you the time? Bro, this little standing guy, okay, we had to make up our cardio tonight because we had to go do something. I forget what it was. And I think Barwas had to do a lift with i forget who else so there was like a group of us that were running it wasn't because of punishment it was just our morning cardio yeah that we weren't able to make and this ga wasn't given times like wasn't shouting times i don't know if he wasn't confident or not there's like a science to you especially when you're running half gas there's all that there's you know exactly on the field where you're supposed to be when those numbers are called out yeah so i just asked i'm like hey we're gonna need the

hey i'm gonna need those i'm gonna need those numbers and he goes you got six more or whatever i'm like no like when we're running and then he like like kind of big dog me a little bit really yeah yeah he and boros had a great moment after that. Because I guess what I was saying was out of line. And I was like, well, what I think he was doing, pretty out of line. Out of line. We're kind of in a little bit of a disagreement here. But Barwiss was like, yeah, he was actually. Barwiss was like on my side.

Oh, nice. I'm like, dude, this guy, you know, I'm dying out here. You know what I do on Tuesdays. Okay? I'm trying my best here. I just need to know that I got four seconds to get 30 yards. That's what I need to know. I need to know that in my head.

We're running all night if that's not the case. So that is something that is scary, but I like that Bob is still doing it. Shout out to Bob Carpenter. Let's go. Beast. So every week he'll be doing his top five. Hell yeah. It's going to be awesome.

I'm excited to see how that how that goes it's gonna be he will be prepped he will be ready and he will be excited it'll be awesome i'm gonna use it as the top five that i refer to like on game day and for college football to gospel yeah well general's top five the general yeah the general had this team at three yeah because he loves it. He fucking loves college football. Yes, he loves everything about all football at all levels too. I also love that with top fives there's a lot of times to joust.

So we'll be able to get Bob. If it's not us, it's people on Twitter. There's going to be... Bob. I like that. Bob's not scared. That's why I feel like we have created that you realize that bob's not but like if you yeah bob is great because if you're like hey man i don't know he might get some backlash for that or if you put if you say that like it

wouldn't even register in his brain what i welcome it what i'm telling you talking about i love to debate the person i love to debate any of them. So we're going to have that opportunity because I assume each week will start with tweets from the prior week. You know what I mean? Bob, just want to let you know, this is what the SEC people are thinking. Yeah. Bam. That's fair.

I cannot wait. All right. Oh, yeah. We can take Zito just so we can get some people on the phones so they can tell Bob straight up. That'll be awesome. Some things are for us. That's right.

You know what I mean? We're allowed to take five to seven minutes of 17 and a half hours of a live show each week. We're allowed to take five to seven minutes for us. I think that's reasonable. Could even push that higher. Give us a bunch of great college football info at the same time. Oh yeah.

I'm hoping by the end of the year, it is the standard. It will be. I'm hoping it is the standard in college football rankings. He'll be like the Dan Zeus of college football. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That picture's the best. So good. behind pat the whole time what if ohio state

only wins by you know seven some week or ten so a lot of explaining to do and he has them uh one or even worse drops them to like four oh boy you know what i mean like what is how's he gonna handle that how's he gonna handle that aj you think i don't know it'll be interesting to see honestly like the the roller coaster that is a season i can't wait to see how he responds he will though he will always does battle tested all right let's get to a break hour three to be on the other side we'll take some phone calls speaking of phone calls we'll also chit chat about all the other big news tristan wirfs talking about his mental health moving from one side of the offense line to the other. Interesting.

I'm happy he came out and said this, letting people know that you're allowed to have anxieties and worries, and even the people at the top of the world have the same potential negative thoughts in moments in which they shouldn't have them. So if you need to get help, go ahead and get help. Some people are scared, though, because the offensive line is a super mentally tough position. Tristan Wirfs, who was supposed to be potentially

the next greatest of all time, is now having negative thoughts. There's people going, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think Tristan Wirfs is like, I'm a human. He's handling it. Get off my fucking ass. Which I appreciate. I respect it a lot, but it has caused major, major conversations

on the internet. The mental health thing, I say that, I understand it's very serious. Let's not get crazy. But the mental health words, vastly different between generations. Oh, this generation was living when mental health didn't exist. It wasn't even

a thing. Oh, is that crazy? Throw them in the fucking... You know what I mean? I'm about sick of it. You're being real negative right now. I'm about sick of it. Just fucking. Yeah. You're being real negative right now. Okay? I'm about sick of the negativity. Mm-hmm.

It's like then we, as we grow older, we're like, yeah, people actually have negative thoughts about themselves. And some people go through it a little bit about life and everything, especially when everything's happened. And so as mental health has kind of developed as a thing that we know about, I think that has also been the way generations have handled it. thing that we know about, I think that has also been the way generations have handled it. Because there's a lot of older folks that are saying, Tristan Wirfs is fucking soft ass.

Shut up. Oh, it's hard. Sorry about it. It's like, Jesus. These people are relentless out there. Tristan Wirfs is just like, I'm just trying to let people know that this happens. Yeah. That's all I'm trying to do.

Trying to play well, too. And what triggered it was the move from right to left tackle, correct? Yeah. Pressure, anxiety. I assume not just having to switch his feet, but also like left tackle, what that position means as opposed to right tackle. You know, that's a lot. It's a big, it's a big.

I mean, talk to a guard going from left guard to right guard. Like, it's a big deal. Especially to tackle. Like, hey, you're one of the pillars now. You're on an island. Here you go, buddy. You're our bell cow here. You're responsible for our quarterback, basically.

Hey, you like everything around here? Yeah, this building, all these billions of dollars. Yeah, like pretty. You're going to have to. It's on you to protect. It's on you. You know what I mean? We're going to need you to play well.

You don't play good. Guess what? We suck. We're fucked. That's a tough position for some people. Other people love it exactly in the moment, which I assume Tristan will as he grows older. Young guy, dog at eye. He's going to figure it out. He's a lot more at left tackle than right tackle,

so that's a good little positive. And joining us live, I assume from Carolina, down there in the beautiful Queen City, Charlotte, a man who is launching a golf collection alongside Unreal, UNRL. a man who is launching a golf collection alongside unreal un rl tomorrow online at un rl.co we don't spell out unreal and we don't spell out calm no it's un rl.co that sounds really cool wait till you see the shit that they're selling yeah he looks so cool out of tahoe i'm excited to chat with him about that and about how it's going in Carolina.

Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Thielen. So cool. You look so cool. Just trying to be like you, man. No, no, no. So Unreal Golf. Am I pronouncing it right? Or is it?

It's Unreal Golf. And your partnership started how? And how hands-on were you with the designs? Because you look so cool with Tahoe, and the logo is so sweet, pal. No, it's been cool. It's actually how we got started together really is the founder, the guy who started Unreal Clothing, went to school with me at mankato uh he's a couple years younger than me and uh and then that's how we got connected uh and then i just started wearing the

stuff and obviously unbelievably comfortable and and and then they started making golf stuff and obviously you guys know i'm a big golfer um and so kind of that's kind of how it all started but um i my wife and i both kind of believe that we don't represent anything that we don't love. So any product, anything that we represent, it's something that we would wear on our own or something we would buy and represent that way. So that's no different here with Unreal. All right. That is an incredible, like, I think that's why people like you so much

all proceeds from the apparel line benefit the thelin foundation and its programming around helping youth reach their full potential by providing educational scholarships and support through athletics hey that's good shit bob yeah yes sir swing that's that's been something that's been really cool too is is they've been extremely supportive of the Thielen Foundation and and kind of just came right alongside us and and everything that we're doing with that and helping these youth um reach their full potential through sport a lot of it is um you know redoing weight rooms and and you know underprivileged areas where these kids don't have any resources they don't have you go into some of these schools in their weight rooms and they have like, you know, a 40 pound dumbbell here and a 10 pound

dumbbell there. And, and, uh, you know, it doesn't, it's not anything exciting for these kids. So to be able to make them have something that they're excited about to go to work and, and go play a sport and eventually, you know, finish school and maybe go on to, to play a sport in the future is pretty cool. Hell yeah. Opportunity is what you're setting up. And also, people will feel a little bit more invested if they know that they are on the same playing field as others, hopefully. And who knows what can come from a little bit of hope in somebody's mind. Are you telling people how to get this swing, to AJ's point?

What a beautiful follow-through here. You're a real player. Seven birdies on Sunday at Tahoe. Seven birdies on Sunday. Nowoe. Seven birdies on Sunday. Now, we don't have to talk about what happened before then, but you have the capability to do seven birdies in one day. You're going to be a pro golfer when you're done? Are you doing the Tony Romo thing, you think?

Hey, I'll tell you what. When I'm done playing, then I'm going to give all the time that I give to football right now in the offseason and all that will be dedicated solely to golf. I'm going to try to get as good as I possibly can. I'm joking. I just made you look terrible.

That's on me. You're a guy that can do it, though. That's why I'm excited to see you pull it off. Let's talk about your current job here at football. All reports out of your camp are that you look fast, that you're getting... He's getting separation yeah he's

charming funny funny all these things so you feel good they it just got reported i don't think we knew about this there was an injury late last year you got that fixed are you feeling 100 again you feel like your younger self uh how is it all going for you as a carolina panther seemingly great yeah i can i can honestly say this, and a lot of times guys just say stuff just because it's a new year and all that, but this is the best I've felt since I was a young player. I mean, I can't – someone asked me, one of my teammates the other day asked me about, you know, what do you do now that you're older

to be able to show up and play every day? And I really kind of told them, like, hey, honestly, I feel better right now today than I did when i was 25 or 24 honestly i remember my last year of college being like man i feel old so um i feel great um obviously there's a lot of work to do between now and the season um but feel really good right now and just got to stay on top of it proud of you buddy go ahead aj theielen did you know last year or first off have you watched the show quarterback on Netflix the series where they followed Kirk Cousins your quarterback last year did you know they were filming that all during last season and I know

you pop up there all the time in a lot of the game footage and do you like the show if you watch it yeah I like the show I I love that kind of stuff um I mean I love the game of football obviously so any insight into what other teams are doing you know what individual players are doing i thought i thought they did a great job of of you know showing what it takes to be a quarterback in the nfl i don't think even a lot of players really know uh that play alongside these guys that really know what it takes to be a quarterback so i thought that was good i mean i think they could have gotten a little bit more in depth um but i think a lot of these teams probably didn't want to show um too much detail of what goes into it but um but yeah i thought it was great and uh and uh i'm looking forward

to season two hey kirk was awesome in there you know and i assume that that's what kirk is like in real life because we got to see him in numerous different settings and he was the exact same nerd yeah nerdy motherfucker and all of them awesomely lovable though yes i think kirk cousins and patrick i think now marcus barriotta went through a lot so it's going to be tough to be super baby face through that whole thing but like kirk gained a bunch of fans patrick gained a bunch of respect and fans from people because of how he acted it was cool to see that now we're getting reports out of your new team that this quarterback is given protection breakdown so offensive lineman on his fifth day in the nfl in a training camp bryce young is allegedly the super genius when it comes to football what has he been like from your standpoint because all sounds are that this

dude is a guy i mean that's what people are saying about bryce young what is your experience with him yeah i think at the end of the day you can just tell that he loves the game of football you know i think a lot of times guys get drafted early on and they might not love it they might be really good at it or you know have a lot of experience and played at a high level um but but he loves the game of football he truly does and like you said he's he's talking about protections like he's been playing the league for 15 years um and i know nothing about protection so i'm not gonna pretend like i but uh but no it's been it's been really cool to work with him um really just the whole team though i mean obviously adding a piece like

him to this team has been huge but just been so fun for me and really refreshing for me to be able to show up to work every day and work alongside not only the players, but the coaches, this coaching staff. It's been really cool. A lot of former players, a lot of coaches that have a ton of experience, whether it be playing and coaching or coaching. whether it be playing and coaching or coaching. And just to be able to kind of take in all that and just to show up every day and the positivity, the kind of mix of, I said this to someone the other day, it's the mix of being positive but also being real. You don't always get that in this league. And so that's been really cool.

Okay, I'm excited to hear, you know, how this whole thing pans out for the Carolina Panthers, both behind the scenes and in front of us because the NFC South, hey, NFC South wide open in everybody's eyes. You also got a guy from the Colts that came over with Frank, Jeff Brown. He's director of ops, bald-headed guy, played college baseball. He's a weapon. You need to utilize him. You know, he behind the scenes, absolute dog.

You guys got a good one. I went to Colts camp. I heard he wasn't there anymore. I'm like, where's Brown? They're like, went to Carolina. I'm like, this treasonous turncoat mother. He started as equipment manager for the Colts. We're talking equipment manager, intern as the Colts,

all the way through. Now he's down there. You guys got a great staff, including him. I assume everything else is top-notch as well. Good for you. And he got a golf sim in the locker room. Oh, yeah. Remember, that was the thing so you can rock the hat.

Connor has a question for you, Thielen. Yeah, Adam, last year in Minnesota was O'Connell's first year, so obviously you had to learn a new system and a new offense there. Now going to Carolina, first-year coach Frank Reich learning another new system there. What's that process like, and is it almost easier in Carolina because that is a complete start from scratch? You're going there, you know, you're new to the building as well,

or is it similar at all? Yeah, anytime you learn a new system, it's almost like you're learning another language sometimes. Thankfully, this year a new system, it's like, it's, it's almost like you're learning another language sometimes. Thankfully this year, learning this system, a part of this staff, I think they did a really good job of making things make sense. Like there's a lot of times, you know, as an offensive staff, they try to put together an offense that, that can kind of, you know, you can, you can ring stuff together to make it make sense you can um you know formations make sense the things just hit your brain in the easiest way possible they try to do it that way and they did an unbelievable job of doing that here so it hasn't been that

difficult to really learn the system now the biggest thing is when you're when you're with a new staff and and you're learning a new system is you might have run the same exact route, concept or route, individual route for now going on my 11th year. But every single offense and every single offense coordinator wants that same route run differently. And there's little details of how that quarterback and offensive coordinator and offensive staff wants you to run that particular route. So that's something that... Yeah, but you're old.

Yeah, but you're old. That's true. I am old. But you feel young, right? Absolutely. I feel great. Do you like this offense for your particular style of football? Yeah, absolutely. I think they did a great job of mixing some different systems together. I think when they got together as an offensive staff, they kind of said, hey,

this is what I've done in my past, and it's been successful. And then maybe someone else raised their hand and says, hey, this is what I've done, and this is really successful. And the way that they've meshed it together, it just makes sense to me. It hits my brain, and it's things that i've i've had experience with and in actually a lot of different systems and um being able to put it all together has been really cool oh so the your eye you got a good eye for this hole you know what i mean you see that you see this offense well oh i i mean i'm not a big fantasy football player i am in a league this year with a bunch of guys from West Virginia.

Oh, nice. Yeah, so that just made me, you know what I mean? Yeah. Dealing on the short list. Sounds like it, right? Yeah. I don't know when I'm supposed to draft who, but this is my first time ever doing this. This is my first time doing this.

I've signed up for leagues in the past in here. Yep. Never participated. I was teammates with Phil. He ran the whole team. Mm-hmm. Thank God. We ended up not being last, which is great news.

That's all that matters. I've never done the – this year I'm doing it, though. Welcome to my team, Bob. Happy to be here on my team. Let's go. All right. I'm going to send a text or two like, hey, Bob. What are you doing today?

I need a motivational speech before games. Yeah, maybe we take Bryce Young to dinner on a Wednesday. Yeah. So he starts looking your way a little bit, you know. They want to start doing this whole thing. No, it sounds like you guys are going to be good, though. No growing pains, you don't think? You know, I think Coach does a great job in team meetings talking about it.

Like, we're going to have ups and downs. It's how we weather the storm, obviously. But there's a ton of excitement, right? You walk through that locker room, guys are excited. And every team is, right? Everybody's zero and zero. No one's had any wins and no one's had any losses. Everybody thinks they're Super Bowl potential right now.

But I think there's just a different feeling of confidence in this locker room. And we're going to have to start out strong so we continue to kind of build the momentum in the right way. This league is a momentum league. And you never know what happens when you start catching a little fire. So we've got to make sure that there's a little sense of urgency in that locker room, and I think there is. Go ahead, AJ.

What was it like being the new guy, coming in, and you have such ties to Minnesota and everything, and now you come in obviously with your resume, so you have that instant respect. But what was it like? A lot of times that can be exciting, kind of going into a new environment and learning everything over again. Yeah, it's completely refreshing. It feels like the first day of school

or the first day of training camp in college. Like you're just kind of figuring everything out on the fly. And you can just – it really kind of allowed me to just go out there and play football because that's the only thing that was constant for me is going and running a choice route or going to run a post route like I've been doing that my whole life so um it just allowed me to just go be myself and go out there and play free um it gave me a little extra motivation because I got a lot to prove um these coaches these players they've never seen me play in person. And so every day I'm going out there with a mission to prove who I am as a player and who I am as a teammate. And, you know, I think that's something

that we need to use as a team is, is I don't care what people are saying about us or what we think we are as a team, but we got to go out there and prove it every single day. And that's been my mindset. Have you been taking that GPS tracker on like an ATV or side-by-side or something like that? Is that how it's getting over 20 miles an hour? No, that's the greatest thing about, you know, when analytics fall on your side, it's a good feeling. When analytics fall on the other side, it's not great. But right now I'm happy with the old GPS because it's proven that I can still play at a high level and that I haven't fallen off like a lot of people feel I have.

How old are you? I'll be 33 in a couple weeks. Oh, okay. Well, happy birthday in case we don't miss you. 32 years old, still flying around at over 20 miles an hour. No big deal. Wow. What's the top?

Have they told you? Do they tell you every day? Like, tell you what, today 21 uh 20 miles an hour no big deal wow what's the top have they told you do they tell you every day like tell you what today 21.7 miles an hour moving 21.7 maybe we crack 22 and then the next day it's like 20 and a half they're like oh okay a little cold tub boy do they tell you the numbers or do you learn about it through the media well i think it's i think it's funny because i i don't think they really knew what they were getting when they got me because I think it was actually – and then now the first couple days of training camp, there's random people coming to me like, wow, did you know you could run that fast?

There's a white here. There is an older white here. Okay, Yvar, we thought the first day, glitch. No chance. Had to be side by side or something. There's a Minnesota older white here. 22 miles an hour? Is that real?

Are we seeing the same? Pull up on the jumbo. Are you seeing the same thing? I'm seeing this every day. This isn't just one day. Let's keep eyes on that son of a bitch. Make sure he is only wearing this to run and isn't in his car or something like that before this whole

thing starts happening. That's funny to think about. I assume Frank, GM knew, but some of the coaches probably had no idea what the Adam Thielen experience was. And then they're hearing and he's thinking, I heard last night you ran 21. Is that normal? You're a possession guy. What are we talking about?

You run little outs across the middle. You know what I mean? He was like, oh, how you all forget. Justin Jefferson, unbelievable. Hey, listen. That is something now. You're a wide receiver at heart. All selfish prima donnas.

That's what they say about wide receivers. You handled the Justin Jefferson situation with really great self-awareness i think personally as a great wide receiver in your own right pro bowler all pro and then like maybe greatest of all time when it's all said and done comes in to the vikings and all of a sudden the offense is like hey this is where we're going and you just have to take like back, backseat to that entire thing, kind of play your role, and you did that. Obviously, you had to pay for a workout to even get in front of NFL scouts,

so, like, you'll be the team guy. How excited are you to potentially, you know, maybe get a little bit more priority in an offense now again like you did a few years ago? Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you guys, and this is not this is not just uh uh the political correct answer but this is gonna suck this answer is gonna suck isn't it but uh but to be honest i mean i i just i love being a part of a tandem or a group i mean

we had it with digs and i we had it with justin and i when he was an early uh young player and i think there's something to say when guys feed off each other, that you take away what a defense is trying to take away, right? Like if they're going to try to take away Justin, then there's going to be one-on-one coverage on the other side, right? It's pretty simple math, right? And so I love that part of the game. And I love playing with Justin, obviously.

He deserved all those looks. He deserved all those looks. He deserved all those opportunities. I mean, there was times where he was double, triple covered. The ball's going to him, and he's still coming up with the ball. So at the end of the day, like, I can't say that he shouldn't get those opportunities. And so it was always one of those things for me that I wanted to help him be the best player he could possibly be. And a lot of times that is me going and making plays and doing my job to allow him to be able to do his job.

And so, you know, I think that's why I am where I am because towards the end of my time that wasn't the case. But, again, I love that guy and have so much respect for the way that he treats the game and that he approaches the game. And I'm excited to see what he's going to do for a long time. We're all excited to watch you next year as well. But, yes, Justin Jefferson is electrifying on the football field. Seemingly cool dude, too, like super cool.

You know, like, yeah, this is just how it goes. I'm just unbelievable at football. You know, like this is just ho-hum. He works his ass off though too, huh? Oh, he busts his tail. I just, man, there was nothing better than going to work with him. I'm not going to lie, I miss him because he's such a great teammate. He always had a smile on his face.

Every single day he walked into that locker room. And a lot of times it's because I was cracking a joke that he really didn't think was funny but still laughed. That's a great teammate. There's nothing better than going to work with him. And then, like you said, you show up to practice and watch out. That guy was all over the field. He was busting his tail.

He never took a rep off, never asked for a day off or a rep off, and just loved to compete, which is pretty cool. Hell, yeah, it is. Hey, thank you for saying all that. I feel like I just learned a lot ty has a question for you adam yeah i'm going back to bryce like when we uh talk to aaron on here he'll talk about like the rapport and the chemistry that he had to build with guys like davante and jordy and how long that actually takes where you're on the same page obviously you played with kirk a really long time, but how long does it take until you actually feel like you have that chemistry or rapport with a new guy? Now, it might be a little

bit easier because he's a rookie and he hasn't played with a bunch of other guys before, but do you feel like you're light years ahead right now than where you were when you first started throwing with him? And how much further do you think you guys have to go until you know you really are kind of on that same wavelength mentally? I usually wouldn't say this to a guy wearing Packers gear. Oh! It's in the past. But, yeah, no, honestly, there's kind of two sides of it, right?

There's the one side of, you know, you have to kind of prove, and I'm sure Aaron talked about this. I remember him talking about it last year when he had a bunch of young receivers. You've got to prove as a receiver that you deserve those looks and that you can be reliable and that he can kind of trust that you're going to be in the right spot at the right time, right? So that's kind of the process that you go through through OTAs and training camp. And then on the other side of it, you've got to also get on the same pages.

Okay, when I get this coverage and I'm running this route, what is my angle going to look like coming out of it? And for him to be able to release the football before you break, he has to really understand how you run your routes and how you're going to do those certain things against certain coverages. So that's something that takes probably the most time because you have to have – you can't just talk about that in the media. You can't just show up and say, hey, versus this coverage, I'm going to do this.

Well, it just doesn't work that way. You have to have experience together. And those are the things that have already come up through the first week and a half of training camp that have been really good things that have happened that we haven't completed at ball because maybe I thought, or I've ran my route this way and he thought I was running it this way. And after the rep would come back and say,

Hey, from now on, I'm going to, I'm going to throw that ball exactly like you did, because I'm going to come out at that angle. And that's an easy completion. So there's things that have happened that are like, okay,

like we just, we just kind of check something off, off the list of, of things that we okay, we just kind of checked something off the list of things that we've kind of gotten on the same page. I love to hear that, you know, growth, development. It also is a good thing for us to think about while we're watching these practices. You know what I mean? We're watching these highlights, and then some people are watching these lowlights, and we're in the first six, seven days of practice with pads on

and brand-new offenses for a lot of people. There's going to be some shit to try to figure out i think i just heard you say yeah 100 yeah i mean i mean i remember even going back you know to play with kirk and like being in like year three and something shows up whether it be in a game or a practice that you're like we've never actually had that look against that route and then it shows up and then you're like okay like now we're on the same page so like there is little things that happen you know two three years down the road that that you know that that you can kind of lock into your bank and say okay if that happens again we are 100 on the same page so it takes time it just takes those reps to happen they're saying his bank is really good oh yeah oh yeah Kirk's one of them Kirk and Bryce Kirk for sure we know Kirk yeah we got a chance to watch Kirk's brain

do its thing you know what I mean he's very intelligent but they're saying Bryce's brain is like special special they're saying yeah I mean I think I think you see it day in and day out and I think it goes beyond just knowing the plays. It's, it's understanding football, right? It's understanding timing and man zone. And, um,

you know what the defense is trying to accomplish. I think that's where he's, he's ahead of most rookies. And granted, again, there's going to be some highs and lows. We all go through that, right?

As, as players. I mean, I'm in year 11 and there's, there's lows in practices, right? That's, that's just how how this game works lost it but at the end of the day he's he's making throws with certain timing that you're like he is processing the game a little differently than most guys so um that's been really cool it's a nice he gets oh he gets he understands him throwing that when he did how he did makes us realize that he knows,

oh, this person was going to jump down on this at this particular time. In the playbook, probably supposed to throw at this point, but instead we're going to get there a little bit earlier because of something like that type of stuff, just for people that might not fully comprehend what you mean by that? Yeah, I actually dropped a ball maybe three, four, third, fourth practice of training camp it was the ball was on me so fast like i i broke as soon as i broke the ball was like bam right there and it was one of those

moments that you're like oh wow like he knew probably while the ball was being snapped that i was going to be wide open because of the way the safety moved or the way that you know something reacted you know the the the linebacker reacted to the running back or or what have you so um that was kind of a moment they're like okay like he's he's processing that almost too fast uh to where he knew where that ball was going instantly which which is obviously a good thing all right well you just need to also yeah look that thing in. Catch the ball. Fantasy team. Tone, last question for you here, Adam.

Yeah, Adam, you said this is the best you felt in maybe like 10 years, so I saw actually a report on the internet, so I was seeing if you can confirm or deny it. After watching quarterback, you took Kirk Cousins' body gurus, Hank and Beatrice, and that is why you feel the best you have. What's your problem? Why are you obsessed with these two people that Kirk's letting in at your house, Hank and Beatrice, and that is why you feel the best you have. That's what your question is. What's your problem?

Why are you obsessed with these two old people that Kirk's letting in at your house? Hank and Bebe don't deserve that. We don't know if that's their names. Have you ever met these olds that are working on Kirk Cousins that Tone Diggs has been enamored by ever since watching? I am sorry that is what he took his time to ask a question about, too.

But on a follow-up, have you ever met these olds? I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but I have met them. They are phenomenal people. Great people. The first time I met them, it was in Kirk's basement, and he wanted me to come see them. And before they even worked on me, they started talking about the last game. And, hey, I saw on this route when you cut, I think your hip was a little stiff.

And we need to loosen that up so you can get out of that break a little quicker. So they were doing their – to their credit, they were doing their film study. And they were dialed in and ready for me before I even showed up. So he's got a good thing going on. And he's – I mean, knock on wood, I don't think he's missed a game in his career from injury. So he's got something that he's figured out that he's doing a good job, and they're definitely part of that.

Hell, yeah. Great to hear that. So now that maybe this asshole can stop making that the focus. That's all he talks about with Kirk. Kirk had a great showing in that quarterback show. Great showing. From his wardrobe to his family to his routine. Firewood.

Everything he did. You made a good fire, Coop. You made a good fire. Hey, he does make a heck of a fire. I'm not going to lie. Bingo. And there's nothing better than a fire in Minnesota post-game, you know, maybe mid-October.

It's electric. A couple of those local bricks. So he actually has swag. Like, he really does. He has, like, these old-school Timberwolves shorts and these throwback jerseys. He's got like a whole closet full of all of it. But he still tends to show up to – I don't know if you guys saw the first day of training camp.

He shows up in like a short sleeve button-up flannel. I'm like – I called Kirk. I said, Kirk, you have so much swag. Why would you do that to yourself? Like show up in like the retro MJ jersey. Oh, yeah. Sunglasses. Something swaggy that he does have swag.

Yeah, well, if you watch quarterback, his wife is the one that pieces together the outfits. I think she does a great job. She does. She does a great job. I think she does a great job. Adam thinks that as well. I assume family, friends. And we appreciate you joining us. Good luck with the launch of the Unreal Golf Line,

benefiting the Adam Thielen Foundation. All proceeds will go to Making Kids' Lives Better. All you got to do is go to unrl.co tomorrow and purchase one of those incredibly sleek, comfortable, and professional golf line or anything else they have going on over there. Yes, sir. And you guys should have a little swag box for y'all. So hopefully you guys like it.

Unreal's got good stuff, right? It's unreal. They got real good stuff. Unreal. They're very talented at what they do. They make hoodies, right? They're the ones that make the sweet hoodies. Yeah, like that one Vikings one last year I I think, is the one you're thinking of. Sweet stuff. Sick.

Yeah, I assume the golf stuff is going to be electrifying. I can't wait to buy some. You're the man. We appreciate you. Good luck this season. Ladies and gentlemen, the Carolina Panthers wide receiver, Adam Thieler. Yay, Adam! Alright, let's answer some phone calls on our way out. Feels like...

I mean, I had no idea that was coming. Were their names ever said on there? Yes. I assume early, but we all did the same thing. We all go, who are the olds? You know, because most body gurus, we're talking like... Wim Hof. Pretty jock.

Wearing gis, yeah. Wearing full gi. Yeah, like they care about the body so much. Look at their body. They are a picture of what you are signing up for. AAA. And what Kirk's saying is, look at the longevity here. Yeah.

That's what he was like. You see how old this guy is still getting after it? That's what I want my buddy to do in the NFL. He did that. Guys never miss a game. You got a problem with it, Tony? No, I was just trying to connect. Hey, you guys got any questions for Adam Thielen?

Tony? Yeah, I do. Thank you. You know John and Beatrice? I'm just trying to connect two stories. He's never felt better, and I just met these two gurus in this documentary. I needed to see if that was okay. That was an interesting – I didn't expect that from old Kirk Cousins,

but I do appreciate it. If it works, it works. Who cares? You didn't expect his body work Kirk Cousins, but I do appreciate it. If it works, it works. Who cares? You can expect his body work people to look the way they did? No, call me, I mean, I guess, I'm Judgey Wadgie.

In Minnesota, it seems to fit Kirk pretty well. Yeah, but I'm a little Judgey Wadgie. Judgey Jaguar. I need to not be as judgey. That's a new one. Need less Judgey Jaguars. Yeah, no Judgey Jaguars in here. How many points is a Judgey Jaguar? judgy. Oh, it's a new one. Need less judgy Jaguars. Yeah, no judgy Jaguars in here. How many points is a judgy Jaguar?

Not enough. Well, they're everywhere, so probably. Hey, is Martinez in trouble, Blake? Yeah, so Blake Martinez, former linebacker for the Green Bay Packers and New York Giants, allegedly caught up in a bit of a scam selling fake Gary Vimons. Is that what's going on? Yeah, pretty much.

Pokemons, right? Or something? He's lucky they're not fake Gary Vee Mons because if he took those to the black market, he'd have had 10 bullets in his head. His family probably wouldn't be here. Why? Because they're so valuable? If you try and counterfeit a Gary Vee Mon...

Same with Pokemon, it sounds like. Because he's catching some fraud charges, right? Just hanging yourself on the door. Not like criminal charges, is it? Just they're like kicking him down for a flat fraud. I don't know. I think if you have a fraud over a certain amount, it becomes like a criminal thing. They said it was like $11.5 million.

That's a big fraud. What? Oh, yeah. It's all fraud? All of it's like three weeks ago, there were stories about how NFL linebacker quits to make a ton of money doing this. Yeah, we were being told we should market him because of how good of an entrepreneur he is. Yeah, he said he made like $20 million in his first year, and I think he had like 20 million employees.

And I don't know about where they sell this or whatever. Someone like Bill might know more about this. But yeah, this app that people primarily use to sell Pokemon cards and other collector stuff, they basically just said, hey, you're persona non grata here. Get your fucking ass out of here. Let's look at Dove, who's a legend in the NFL X world. One of the four. Former NFL linebacker Blake Martinez is reportedly permanently banned

from reselling Pokemon cards, though it is in Gary Vee Mon, okay, on whatnot over scamming collectors, according to Dextroto. Is that what that's called, Bill? Statement from Dexter Toe? What are they? They're the authority? It's like a gaming culture reporter. Okay, Dexter Toe is a gaming culture reporter.

He's always dove. Statement of gaming and cards and stuff. Statement from whatnot. After a comprehensive investigation into Blake's Breaks, great name, operations, we have decided to permanently remove the seller from our platform, including the individual employees involved in the misconduct. Martinez retired from the NFL in 2022 to open up a Pokemon selling card company

and has made $11.5 million in revenue in less than a year per The Athletic. So he was the best in the world, I see him at the card collecting business. I know Zito sold a card for like three grand or something a couple months ago. Right, Z? Oh, yeah. What was it, Charizard? Oh, yeah, Charizard. Was it real?

Oh, yeah. How long did you have that thing? I'm going to say around 2003. Okay, so he had the Charizard, which is high quality since 2003, 20 years. That was what, 3,000, right? Yeah, it was like 5,000 altogether. Okay, so let's do 11. It was like five thousand million altogether. Okay. So let's do eleven and a half million. How much did you get it for?

Divided by five thousand. Okay, so that would be twenty three hundred Charizards in one year to make eleven and a half million dollars. Charizard's the most expensive one, right? Yeah. There's actually, there's one that's way more expensive, but Charizard's the one that's most like everyone wants. That's twenty three hundred transactions though at a pretty good one,

unless you had a couple of the big ones. What are the big ones, like 50,000? You're looking at, like, a million dollars. Yeah, there was a – Oh, so he had numerous million-dollar ones plus Charizards in there? Yeah, like, I had a bad graded one, but, like, he has, like – they're graded by 1 through 10, and if you have a – Are they cards?

They're physical cards? They're physical cards, like in a little case. And some of them, to Zeed's point, are graded really high. So they're like... Like a baseball. Like a sports card. What's that one, CD Baby? So when I sold my Charizard, I just bought a cheap one.

And it's basically graded on it. Foxy, grab that thing. Oh, don't bend it, Fox. Whoa. So the thing on top... There's no light. Yeah, I can't see it, actually. It's worse now than it was in Zito's hand.

The thing on top has, like, a grated system. You see Post Malone? Post Malone just bought a, like, Lord of the Rings card for $2.8 million. Okay, so. One card. So Blake Martinez sold that one, sold the other biggest one, sold the other biggest one, sold the other biggest one. Wow. For $11.5 million in one year is a lot of shit, right? Yeah. So that probably is what?

Trigger. Yeah. People are like, 11? How do you? This is like when you guys take it one step too far. You know what I mean? When you're exaggerating something and we're all kind of like, is that true?

Is that not true? And then you take it one step too far. I think Blake's Bre breaks potentially just took it to $11.5 million. You keep that thing at about $6, $7. This former NFL guy is able to do that. $11.5 million feels like a lot of money

off of cards that are like the Charizard when one sells for $1 million. It's huge. So if he was doing that one per month, he was selling a million dollar thing per month. That seems like a tough thing to accomplish. That's a good looking Charizard. This thing is

I don't know how to grade. It's a four. So number four, EX 5, 524-09714. So that number four is one to ten. You get one, that's ten. Oh, this is a bum-ass Charizard. Yeah, it's a very cheap one. So the one I had was a seven.

Some self- Blake, actually, was the one grading him. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. He was saying- Couldn't he say- If he had 20 employees, couldn't he claim, hey, I don't know what they're-

I didn't know they were doing this. Well, that's what's interesting. Yeah, but I don't know if that's how it works in companies. If his whole business- No, it's not. But I'm trying to say how he can handle it. I guess he could. That could be why.

I didn't know what you were doing. They said they're permanently taking him from it. That's a lot to say he is permanently banned from our platform or whatever. Yeah, and whatnot. That's where everybody does the thing. I see Matt Overton goes over on whatnot and sells some of his cards. He has some cards over there. Really?

V-Mon? No, I think he does have a Gary V-Mon or two. Why? Smart. I don't know how. How do we get a Veeamon? Yeah, do you have any? I do not have any Veeamons.

I could get some if you want. We need a few Gary Veeamons. I'll do right now. Yeah, you go to eBay. I mean, you'll find a couple cards only cost like two or three grand. And then that kind of thing. That is what he's doing, right? He's creating the next Pokemon?

Yes. Okay, good luck. I appreciate that. Pokemon's worth like how many billion? Oh, it's not a bad idea i just dug in a little bit more martinez one of the cards he sold was for uh around 600 000 so that's one of the cards and then he was also selling packs and he i guess he was selling like a high tier pack but actually sending the people like a low tier pack so you thought you were getting a and you were getting like z how much is the high tier pack worth doesn't say i can't find that yeah how much do you buy it for like a high tier pack i don't know i think uh logan paul

like when this stuff really started to get super popular again he bought like a first edition box for like it was like two million bucks or something. He wore it around his neck. He wore one of those deals around his neck. Yeah, no, he got a card from that box. So, yeah, so those boxes go for like 500,000 or like 600,000. There was that show on Netflix, that auction show that Peyton was behind. I can't remember what it was called, but that guy offered Logan 300,000 just to open a pack just because like, because every time you open those, there's no good cards in in it it makes the other ones way more money if that makes sense because there's only there's not many left got it different pack they're still making them right no not like

those first edition ones now so logan though right his wasn't or it was he had some deal i remember that where he got scammed on something yes i don't know if it was pokemon or something else i don't remember either but something was not what we were originally reading right i thought it might have been those packs me too i think they were fake three million on yeah you got martinez bingo that's what i'm starting to yeah but for three million dollars yeah something like that you're right it was something i'm starting to wonder like did he buy from blake's breaks he might have because it was yeah it was three separate boxes and there's thousands of cards in each box but yeah it was two to three there's people that spend a large portion of their lives in these collectibles oh yeah and i respect it and i appreciate it whatever your hustle is hey if you're an entrepreneur you want to make your

living do whatever you got to do but it's so volatile yeah i don't know how you live in there logan paul was scammed on three and a half million of fake Pokemon cards. Yeah. I thought a YouTuber opened a box to find G.I. Joe trading cards instead. Talk about an American hero. What an absolute fleecing of Logan Paul. That's a damn shame. So that's a loud boat?

Can he go after that guy? It's probably like a fake alias and everything. G.I. Joe cards are pretty cool, though. Yes, they are. Buy with crypto and you never know, huh? Dude. Bingo. That's what he gets for bringing brass knuckles in the fucking ring.

Yeah. Amen, brother. Karma. Crypto still? Did he win? Yeah. Or did he lose? He got a win, but I don't know how that ref.

Eddie was the ref. I know that ref. He's a good guy. Is he? He's a good ref. It didn't seem like it. I don't know what the hell he was doing. It was clear and obvious.

We all seen it. There you stay. Playing grab at it. Put brass kn was doing. It was clear and obvious. We all seen it. Put brass knuckles on. Big right to ricochet. Of course. Did Kid Rock hit anybody? No, he just kicked off the show. Yeah, man, he got an unbelievable promo.

So awesome. That's pretty good. I was. I felt really good about that. That was a great run. We should keep doing that. Well, I don't know if you should keep doing it, because it's going to kill your voice. I was. I felt real good about that. That was a great run. We should keep doing that. Well, I don't know if you should keep doing it because it's going to kill your voice. Pass out.

Yeah. That was pretty cool. I was. Zach Brown over there. Whoa. Hey, did you hear people were asking him if he was like super fan? Yeah. That's why he's dressed that way. Wait, it was a show last night?

Yeah. Yeah. How was it? It was awesome. It was good? The third time? Yeah. I mean, those guys.

Third year in a row. They're unbelievable. Yeah. They're really good I don't like him coming on Sunday to Indy We sell that place out for him every single year It's like my first year in Alcoa In a long time Matchbox was scheduled on Saturday

Matchbox 20 was at Lucas Oil? Or the arena? Yeah No, the amphitheater Where did Zach Brown play? Same place Oh, I thought he played at the basketball arena No, so this place has like 8,000, 9,000.

Okay. And probably much cheaper than the basketball arena, if I had to guess. Acoustics, very good there as well. Yeah, it's a great, it's a great, he sells it out though every time he comes. Everybody sells out. What's it called again? Yeah. It's something amphitheater.

I don't know if it's Ruoff or Deer. It's Ruoff now, I think. It was original. I found that out on. Since I've been here, Indiana 2009, I get drafted. It's changed its name five times. Yeah. Four times.

So it's like all the good old school amphitheaters with all the seating and then the grass behind it. Yeah. Bingo. It's awesome. That would have been pretty sweet, though, to see Matchbox 20 play for 60,000 people at Lucas Oil. What is Matchbox? What is a Matchbox 20 song? Let's see how far we've come.

That's one of them. What was that? And I said, baby. There it is. It's 3 a.m. I'm going to be lonely. Okay, Matchbox 20 is good. They were very good.

Anything else? Anything else? I wish the real world could just stop happening to me. Rob Thomas had Smooth with fucking Santana. Did he play it? Santana? He did not. He Did he play it? Santana? He did not. He didn't play it?

Well, no, I don't know. So what are we doing? We're just saying songs now? Well, no, I'm saying he was the lead singer. He had Smooth. All right. He didn't play that, though. Saturday.

No, I don't know if you have to have Santana there to do it or not. You should. I've seen him do it live. He did not have Santana there. Wow. And he brought the house down. What a treat. God damn, what a weekend of music.

Yeah. Yeah, holy shit. I didn't know Matchbox 20 had bangers like that. Oh, yeah. I get them and Goo Goo Dolls mixed up. I love Goo Goo. The Irish? Come on.

Yeah. Come on. They played halftime at one of the Thanksgiving games in Detroit. We saw them walking down the tunnel. I was pumped. I recognized the dude right away. How about you Green Bay guys getting what? Creed?

Nickelback? Yeah. Never in Green Bay. It was all the other places. Other places, usually. Yeah, but it's because Green Bay Packers are in town. Let's put on a whole thing. Exactly. Let's get Scott Stapp out here. And that's the question. Is Jordan Love going to be able to handle that?

When the Green Bay Packers come to town, it's like the Yankees. You know what I mean? I think so. Packers sell out every stadium they go to. See the Google dolls walking down the locker room hallway? What is Jordan Love going to do? Is he going to be able to handle that? Is he going to start gripping a ball a little tighter?

Those are the things you can't really talk about or think about or train for. They do play on Thanksgiving, too. Lions Packers. Oh, shit. Lions have Packers number, too. Probably Lizzo. Someone else like that will be there. I don't know if Lizzo and her cheeks are going to be out there. And bananas. It'll probably be Big Sean.

Yeah. It will be Big Sean. Yeah. It will be Big Sean. Him and Kid Rock. Bring Kid back. Who? Remember they banned Kid Rock's music at Ford Field? That's why that whole thing being at Ford Field was pretty interesting. Well, Bob Ritchie in Detroit had some feelings about Kid Rock for a bit.

Yeah. Kid Rock, you know, said some things that Bob Ritchie in Detroit didn't necessarily agree with. Exactly. Then we the people won triple platinum. Just real quick though. He rode a penis rocket then. Well, it was a middle finger, but certainly did look like a dong.

59,194 people at SummerSlam this weekend. Packed ass. Best live game ever for SummerSlam. 60,000 people in there for SummerSlam. weekend. That's a lot. Packed house. Best live game ever for SummerSlam. 60,000 people in there. They were loud, too. For SummerSlam. Loud.

Active audience. So sweet. So blue-collar cities. Normally, the crowds. They go. Yeah. And we paid money for this. You know, like, as opposed to,

there's some towns that just kind of sit back and let the show happen. And then there's some cities that, excuse me, we're going to be a part of this. I had a lot of this i had a lot of friends that went and they all thought the rock was coming out i think everybody that was kind of the rumor was that a rumor that's i was gonna ask i think it was a rumor yeah and then the rock talked to kevin hart on that show where he said damn to uh his little talk show thing

don cheadle the rocks on here to don cheadle the rock was on there talking about wrestlemania being in philadelphia next year, and Kevin Hart did an entire angle about, yeah, I'm the one that made that happen. I'm the one that called Philadelphia, and The Rock said, you're Nick Khan? Did Nick Khan do it? He said, yeah, me and Nick, we made it happen. That's kind of how Kevin Hart did it. But now that The Rock is talking about WrestleMania

in Philadelphia, look for an entire year now worth of The Rock's returning at WrestleMania in Philadelphia. So, anytime The Rock returns, the place will go absolutely bananas. When's the last time he actually had a match? Cena? 2015.

2015, really? He's come back and done little things though, hasn't he? Yeah. And now he's back at a proper... You know what I mean? He's gone through different phases of... He's doing one-legged split squats.

I see he's trying to work through those. He looks good. He's an animal. Beast. Absolute freak. He's 50 years old, right? Yeah. This is his last quote-unquote real match

was against Cena at WrestleMania in 2013. 13. 10 years. He picked up that UFC guy that did the fight with Seven Bucks who was sleeping in the 2013. 13. 10 years. He picked up that UFC guy that did the fight with Seven Bucks who was sleeping in the gym. Yep. You know, he hugged that guy

and as he was hugging him, he felt, you know, he saw a real mana there. Yeah. But his fucking calves were fully, his quads and his arms in the hug, the side profile. I'm like,

God damn, this dude's got 3% body fat on him. Yeah. He's 50 years old right now. And then he'll be fishing shirtless and he picks that thing up and it's just like what's up he is his legs are more important when you see his legs they are so big and so shredded that's what freaks me out about like his whole physique is crazy it's like bro i appreciate you doing leg day until you're 55 years old but But also, where are we headed? What's the next step here? What is the evolution? He's going to live to

250 years old, probably. There's a chance. If anybody's going to do it, it's going to be The Rock. I can't wait to hear the promos he's cutting for whatever company he owns in 2150. You know what I mean? He's just going to be cutting promos. For you, Dwight! There it is.

All right, let's take a couple phone calls and go ahead and ride on He's going to be cutting from us. For you, Dwight. There it is. Fuck, kids. All right. Let's take a couple phone calls and go ahead and ride on out of here. Big arm day this morning, too. I'm happy to see that ball go in the hole. That was, yeah. Big arm day this morning. AJ, I'm trying to get real jocked.

You know what I mean? You look good. You look good, man. Don't you feel good? I do. I feel real good. Real good. I've been stretching, too, this whole thing.

I've been really. Oh, nice. Yeah. I feel real good. Real good. I've been stretching, too, this whole thing. I've been really. Oh, nice. Yeah, so when the wife and I put the baby down in the nursery, you know, she's really good at the rock and soothing her, but I go down team support. Here we go. I'm here. So I'm just sitting down on a carpeting floor in the dark

with white noise on in the background. Nice. Just kind of not much I can do except for like, do you need anything? No. Okay, I'll just sit here. So I've started doing push-ups, sit-ups, stretching in there. It's like a full thing. So like literally –

Do high knees back and forth, wake her up. Yeah, no noise. No noise allowed. That would be awesome. Watch like in the dark room, seeing you just try to be quiet doing push-ups and stuff. Dude, I am, yeah. Because it's carpeting, you know, so like it's real – I can be real quiet on there. You know, every once in a while I'll do like a –

Sam, put her on my back. I need some extra added weight. I'm getting too jacked. I'll just feel Sam's eyes. Just like she was real close to going to bed and then you had the grunt right there. I'm like 34 straight. That's pretty good. I'm pretty proud of it. But I understand

what you're saying. So baby has literally made me a better person, which I appreciate. Let's take some phone calls and get the hell out of here. Let's go to Dakota in Missouri. Dakota, what's going on? Whoa. Interesting. What's up fellas? How we doing? Keep it moving.

Hell yeah. Yeah. I got a two-parter for you. Great. I'm going to be in Indianapolis week four for Rams Colts. Are there any places to eat down there? Any cool shit to do? No, unfortunately. No, there is.

There is, actually. There's this area. It's called, like... The Garage? The Garage area. Mass No, unfortunately. No, there is. There is, actually. There's this area. It's called, like, the garage area. Mass Ave, yeah. Yeah, but it's the end of Mass Ave. The Coke bottling district. Boom. Bottle works. Yeah, my wife and I went down there yesterday for a little day

date. Her mom watched the baby for like an hour and a half, two hours. We went down there. Stores, food, great hotel. There's this virtual reality thing that we couldn't get into. I don't know. You just go in there and just kill people, great hotel. There's this virtual reality thing that we couldn't get into. I don't know. You just go in there and just kill people, I guess. The VR sandbox?

That place is awesome. The VR sandbox thing, yeah. There's one here. I drive by one. Is it cool? Literally, I tried my best to get in there. The workers just... It looks like laser tag to me.

No, you're doing virtual reality. Murder? There's zombies. Oh, we need to go do that then. Yes. It seemed to be awesome, to me no it's it's uh you're doing virtual reality you're uh murder you're zombies i think oh we need to go do that then yes it is it seemed to be awesome but just for whatever reason couldn't get through to the person that was working right in front of me that like yeah just whatever's available soonest for however much you need well you got to go to the website to look at all the jesus so it was a full thing i i if i had more patience we probably do it but sam was not about it either sam's like we're not doing it we just tried our best to basically give this person all of our money to do this thing it

wouldn't happen but it looked awesome dirty have you done it yeah i did that shit before it was fun as fuck awesome right it looked awesome robot one one, you go up and down. You're really in there like everybody else. You can feel the energy and shit. But you can also rent an entire room, I found out. I just wanted to do that one. Let's do that one. But we weren't able, for whatever reason, we weren't able to get in there.

We will for sure. That's in that area, Dakota. There's a lot of boutique stores. Everything's good. You should try to stay in the Bottleworks part of town, I do believe. Yeah, yeah. Definitely stick to Mass Ave. You never know what's going on downtown during the season because, I mean, there was a Gen Con this weekend.

I mentioned to you that if you tried to go downtown it'd be a nightmare. And actually, Nick said that some guy from Gen Con stole $300,000 worth of Gen Cons. Just walked right out with it like it was a movie. They had his picture on the news super blurry. He must have seen the cameras at the building and were like

that's crop. That camera's crop. That camera's shooting in 420p. That camera's shooting in 420p. Just took a thing, walked out, $300,000 worth of shit out of Gen Con. What's Gen Con? It's like the it's one of the largest in the world.

Board games and that kind of stuff. Collectibles. These things. Gary Vee Mons. Pokemon. Video games. Gaming cards. That's what they stole.

They stole gaming cards. $300,000 worth of gaming cards. Or whatever. So keep an eye out. I'm sure to lock my fucking car, I guess. There he is. My second question was... That's smart, Dakota. So keep an eye out. I'll make sure to lock my fucking car, I guess. There he is. My second question was what the – That's smart, Dakota.

The line is currently at a pick-em. So I wanted to see what you guys kind of thought on, you know, how it being a wash currently. I mean, I think it will be kind of the Rams way. But, hey, that's just me. All right, Dakota, don't get robbed here. Shut up, Dirty. Shut up, Dirty.

It's in Nicole's house. Come to Indianapolis. It is. A pick-em with the Rams. They won a Super Bowl two years ago. I know. I don't know who should be more embarrassed, actually. Dirty, it feels like your team's getting made fun of more than mine.

That's a primetime game, right? We'll be back. Dirty, what do the Patriots do lately made fun of more than mine. That's a primetime game, right? We'll be back. Dirty, I think. What do the Patriots do lately? Who's who? What have they done? Yeah, exactly. The who?

The who? It's fun to hear Gertie back there. I thought he was sleeping for most of the show. Good to hear from him. Dirty's working. It's fun. Put that playoff bracket picture up that Dirty made this morning, actually, because this is something, and the Rams are in it,

and as are the Patriots and the Colts. So pretty much every team that's being represented in here, there's like six teams, on average six teams who make the playoffs, don't make it the next year or something like that. So here's what it was last year with the Buffalo Bills, obviously, through the top. And if you look at the teams that missed the playoffs, like Steelers felt like you guys had a lot of buzz last year, through the top. And if you look at the teams that missed the playoffs, like Steelers, felt like you guys had a lot of buzz last year.

Missed the playoffs. Patriots didn't even make the fucking playoffs last year. Ain't that crazy to think about? Colts not in there. Green Bay not in there. The Lions, who were getting super duper hyped, didn't even make the playoffs last year. It's crazy to think about that. Feels like there's a lot of movement on the horizon.

Normally six. Feels like it's probably going to be seven to eight in this particular season. And that's the parity of the NFL. Yeah, especially when you look at one of those teams on the AFC side. You could probably make the argument that the Jets are the most prepared to go to the Super Bowl, and they weren't even close to the playoffs. They were last in their division. So, I mean, not only just going to the playoffs.

You're picking Jets over Chiefs right now? Sounded like it. I'm picking Jets over Bills, and the Bills were the two seed. Yeah, but you're going to naturally do that, right? Because of what the Bills fans did for the last few years in your face? More so just because of the Leslie Frazier stuff and the Stephon Diggs stuff and the stuff that's happened in Buffalo hasn't really happened in

previous off seasons. And then you look at what's happening in the Jets building with Aaron Rodgers, who, as we've looked at in the past, when he is in a spiteful mood, he wins MVPs, and they're the number one seed. I saw him throw a pick to Sauce Gardner. Did you guys see that?

Oh, yeah. What about that ball, though, by their slow motion? Rope. That thing is just, like, hovering. Yeah. Goose. Basically no look. Yeah, I mean, no look inside.

A little torque, like the torque you can put on the ball is crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. He does a lot of like put on the balls crazy. It's the fundamental. Yeah, it's crazy. He does a lot of like stuff that most other guys can't do. Like he'll fall back a lot on his throws. And it's like, well, you got to step into that to really get the power or whatever. He's like, all right, watch me hit his drive. Yeah.

You know, sauce gardener, they're picking him off. Didn't sauce say he wouldn't pick him off in practice whenever he was recruiting him? He did. Wow. That was a lie. That was a good lie. Should be. We'll find out tomorrow night. Can't believe Aaron threw a pick, by the way.

Oh, no. Honeymoon is over. I wonder if Hardenock's going to pick up him experiencing that interception from Sauce Gardner. Hopefully Aaron chased him down and made the tackle. Like he did way back in the day where he had that big shoulder tackle? Oh, yeah. It's the Saints. Oh, yeah.

He's killed a few guys. Hell, yeah. Andrew Luck used to do the same thing. On the field? I always used to believe that you throw a pick, you got to make the tackle. He was bigger than everybody that picked him off, too. He was a maniac, bro. He was beelining towards the person.

Like, you know how quarterbacks can sit back? Like, punters and kickers sit back? He's like, fuck. Go on, go make a talk. And it was like, you know how normally after a pick, some defense alignment or something, we used to come clean up the quarterback and the wide receiver that was targeted,

and the quarterback, because those two are going to know it was an interception before everybody else. That was always clean up the quarterback. Block the intended receiver always, first thing you do. And if you can get a shot on the quarterback. Kill the quarterback, yeah. That's no longer, you can't do that defenseless or whatever. But back when Andrew was playing, was still very much allowed.

I didn't see a lot of people trying to kill Andrew. That didn't seem to be. Especially if he had like 10, 15 yards running. Nope, I'm going to find somebody else. I think it's not looking. He if he had like 10, 15 yards running. Nope. I'm going to find somebody else. I think it's not looking. He was a D lineman, bro. Yeah.

That clip of him at Stanford where the running back fumbles and the USC safety picks it up and then, yeah, luck drills him and then he fumbles it and Stanford gets the ball back. Yeah. He was just football. You know what I mean? A perfect form tackle. That was his thing like he felt like he was disrespecting football if he didn't play every play until

death pretty much and then if he didn't make the tackle he felt like he was disrespecting his teammates after making a mistake it's like andrew luck was almost too too perfect of a human yeah love to football too much too much too good of a guy needs to be he needs to be more selfish you're right and not get hurt just like too good of a that's not football if i don't so i'm supposed to throw a pick everybody sees me throw a pick and then just not make the sideline okay awesome chance it is awesome isn't it it is awesome yes what do you mean i mean his teammates obviously have to absolutely they love that you everyone loves that stuff. We did love it. A lot of us loved it. Now, I wasn't as close with them as others, but we also were like, hey, we need you to survive.

We need you out there. Bro, you throw the pick, it's cool, bro. Somebody else takes it back, guess we get the ball back quicker. You know what I mean? It's one of those things, but the same thing could be said about Carson Wentz. I think that was certainly an experience that us Colts fans had after Andrew Luck retired.

He's up for the Hall of Fame next year. I hope he goes in. Would be awesome. Would love to hear the chatter. Would love to hear the chatter. I don't have a vote, but I'd like to put Andrew Luck in there, and I wish he would have been able to continue to play. What a perfect football player mentality

mindset. But there was times where it was like he got himself into some stuff because of how tough he was. So whenever Colts fans saw Carson Wentz, it was a lot of like, here we go. Now this guy's not as strong and jacked as Andrew Luck, not as tall as Andrew Luck, can't run as fast as Andrew Luck, but certainly has the same exact mindset of no play is over until the play's over if something needs to be done i'm gonna do it and inevitably in the end with us the washington

commanders and the philadelphia eagles it all kind of ended the same way with the fan base going like hey we love carson he is so incredibly tough but i don't know if he's a quarterback for us no it's just too too stressful of a ride you know it's too much of this and it's a lot of ah and then he'll do something amazing it's like that was awesome and then ah and then we're back in there i couldn't experience it i don't know how his parents have i have no idea how they've existed but i saw some people after carson posted his training photo saying like it was unbelievable what the pat Pat McAfee show and Colts fans did to you. It's like, I feel like we complimented him.

Yeah. I feel like we all agreed that this dude is, like, too tough for his own damn good. He sprained both of his ankles on one play. He did. And tried to get back on the field. Yeah. The guy could barely move.

So, him working out with the Eagles helmet and the Commander's jersey and the Indianapolis Colts shorts was a nice little trip down memory lane for old Carson Wentz. Normally at this time, I'd be in one of these buildings preparing to climb the mountaintop of old Lombardi. Now, people on the internet are saying, this guy looks like a fucking Sunday parlay at about

plus 15,000 with those particular teams looking to get a dub. What are your thoughts on Carson slinging it back there and reminding people that he can still play football and is still available? Yeah, I mean, the fact that he is still available, I just wonder where his next place might be. And I understand, like, I guess the –

I don't know if there's humor involved in this post or whatever, but do you want to remind people that these three teams let you go? Well, that's – some people on the internet said, well, you're actually showcasing the exact problem. Yeah. this is kind of the exact problem but i don't view it that way i view it as hey this guy's been in three nfl programs he's mature he's healthy he's ready to go if you need a backup he's ready to do it is that what you guys got on this photo i mean i out of that photo yeah i got a lot of different things. I won't share all of them, but it does feel like if he were going to play this year, like if the Bucs started 0-4 and Baker won the starting job

and he still started 0-4, would that be grounds for Tampa just to say, fuck it, let's bring in Wentz? So Tampa Bay is in the middle. It's being reported in the middle of a very good quarterback battle between Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask. Remember, Kyle Trask is a guy they drafted. So anytime they draft somebody, they are going to want to see that person succeed because, once again, in-house, we built them, we created them.

Now, when Baker was signed off the Los Angeles Rams, formerly of the Carolina Panthers, and the Cleveland Browns, we all assumed he'd be the starter. But it seems like he is the starter for the first preseason game. Second preseason game, though, Kyle Trask is going to get it going they're in a full competition down there excited to see how it works out aj yeah and so it would it'll be interesting to watch the bucks play because these are meaningful reps for baker and trask in game two like we know hey every throw truly matters when they're when it's a real battle now we know a lot of the team situations in practice

the coaches make a lot of decisions off of that and see how they handle it. But these preseason games actually matter for people like this. Yeah, this is a real thing going on. You drop a ball for one quarterback, catch one for the other. All of a sudden, you're like, I'm so sorry. I like you more than him. I certainly made him look a lot better than you. You're probably not on our team anymore.

Sorry. Sorry about it. It's interesting. You got two quarterbacks. You got no quarterbacks. Well, a similar thing happened last year. Geno Smith and what's his name? Drew Locke. They were doing this,

but then Drew Locke got hurt or got sick or something like that, so he didn't end up starting the second game, and Geno did, and he just looked good, and then Geno just never gave up the quarterback job again. Could happen with Baker. Could. Maybe. Maybe Baker has a Gino here.

Probably not. What if Kyle Trask just comes into his own? Yeah. His absolute guy. Right? He sat behind Tom? Yeah. Would they sign Baker, you think, if they thought Trask was?

I don't know. They're having him compete, right? Yeah. It's just like with, I mean, I guess Washington and Howell. Like, they brought in Jacoby Brissett. And even though they knew they were going with Howell, allegedly. How's good, I heard. Yeah.

Right? And now we're hearing. All the reports are that he's playing well. Yeah. Off season two, Rivera was like, yeah, Sam's our starter. And I think Taylor Heineke said this guy's good. Oh, yeah, he did. Taylor Heineke said this guy's good.

People need to give him a shot. He needs to get some reps in here. And, once again, drafted by the Commanders, so they're going to want to see him do well. Commanders had a bunch of fans at training camp. Green Bay Packers had a bunch of fans at training camp. Chicago Bears had no fans at their training camp. Well, why?

No fans at all. La Palooza was literally 40 feet away. And I know DJ Diesel, Shaq, was in the middle of performing. Of course. Red Hot Chili Peppers. I mean, that's a lot. Are they in the middle of the afternoon when family practice is happening? Oh, yeah.

It was around like 7, 6 p.m. It sounds like a lot of people were down in the city right next to practice, and they chose not to go. Can we pull up that tweet, please? Yep, here we go. So let's go ahead and Bears Family Fest versus Packers Family Night. Sorry that sometimes big cities get cool concerts. Well, the thing about it, though, would be like if the cool concert was happening.

Once. On a big city with a good team's NFL day with excitement and hope. I think the concert would potentially reschedule. You know, it wouldn't schedule for a training camp day. You know, if we're going to have our city's biggest concert, Lollapalooza, which is huge in Chicago. Huge. Huge in Chicago.

Massive in Chicago. Huge deal. I was in Chicago a few weeks ago. They were preparing for Lollapalooza, talking about how awesome it is. Well, Lollapalooza ain't scared of shit when it comes to Chicago Bears. No. Not one bit. No.

Should be a little bit at some point. An NFL team should scare concerts and other people out of town. But in Chicago, they couldn't even get 15 people to say no to Lollapalooza and go over to the Bears practice. I'd say in the Bears defense, that looks like a shitty day in Chicago. Very cloudy, overcast, rainy. Windy off that lake. Exactly.

And look at the perfect night in Green Bay. Green Bay looks like Lollapalooza. It does. It looks awesome. Have you seen Lollapalooza. It does. It looks awesome. Have you seen Lollapalooza footage at all? No, not this year. At all. Shaq was in front of, I don't know, 400,000 people it seemed like.

Oh. Like the DMX. Yeah, I think he made a free throw. Not a free throw. It would have been from him to somebody in the crowd holding up a thing. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, and I think B dropped afterwards. DJ Diesel is really crushing it. He goes.

So Bears fans care about the Bears, we're saying, Zeke? Oh, yeah. Training camp has been absolutely packed. Just because they closed all the streets going into the stadium, that is a big problem to get there. Okay, so Lollapalooza had downtown shutdown. Oh, my gosh. Have you ever been in Chicago during Lollapalooza?

I've not, no. You just go straight to the suburbs. Okay, because you go around because they shut down downtown like it's a NASCAR race. You take a metro right out of there and you say, I'll be back on Tuesday. What? You didn't want to go to Lollapalooza every time you're in Chicago? It was just a bunch of ecstasy and, like, 15-year-olds. So that would take away from training camp practice?

Yeah. So you just kind of... No, because you can't get there. You literally can't get there. Oh, okay. So you're thinking family night was poorly planned here by the Bears? Yes, 100%. And that's why we're leaving that stadium.

Big Ten commissioner. Wow. You're exactly right. I've been putting everything wrong. Right? That's not good. When we're at 1920 Football Drive, that thing is packed. All right.

So we shouldn't judge the Bears fans by this. Not yet. Okay. But the Bears organization, we should judge. I will tell you, though, fucking Fields was throwing dimes the whole time, though. Nobody saw it. I saw it. No.

Nobody saw it? I saw it. I don't think anybody saw it. It was better than Jordan Love fucking overthrowing everybody. Oh! There's a lot of fans there. He's juiced up. Yeah, what are you going to do?

Oh, he can't play in front of people? Well, he's just getting it out of the way. He's juiced up. I figured it out. All right, let's get the hell out of here. We had some phone calls. We talked about all the daily stuff. Did we miss anything?

We kind of hit damn near everything. Yeah. We talked. You said Penguins got Carlson. We won Stanley Cup. I didn't say they got Carlson, though. I was much more vague. Thank you. We won the Stanley Cup.

You mentioned Werfs. Who? Werfs, yep. We kind of talked about it. I don't really know if there's more that needs to be said. That's a generational thing, mental health. It feels like. Not everybody in every generation, but it seems like takes about

Mental health The ones that are kind of very loud Are like oh yeah we expect that from The generation that growing up they were told Literally nothing Feels relatively new How about that Justin Thomas chip Heartbreaker

Brutal Listen he has sucked at golf this year. So, like, we don't feel bad for him. But, boy, oh, boy, to have to chip in on 18 of the last tournament to make the playoffs and extend your season and be in the top 70 of your profession. Justin Thomas is one of the most famous golfers out there. He's fighting to make top 70, and he hits this

miraculous draw around a tree, out of some shrubs, to put himself in a position to go ahead and extend his season. Would have had to been a great shot. Would have had to been a fantastic chipping. If it didn't have the stakes on the line that it did for him to

extend his season, still would have been a top 10 play if he would have chipped in on 18. Anything would have happened. Instead, hits the stick, bounce out, and lynches. Guy's out of playoffs. Season's over. See ya. Heartbreaker.

He didn't know exactly. Then when he learned, like, yeah, one shot, pretty much, you would have. Probably won't make the Ryder Cup either now, right? No. Probably not. Can't put him on a team, they'll say. Yeah. That's got much that you would have. Probably won't make the Ryder Cup either now, right? No. Probably not. Can't put him on the team, they'll say. Yeah. That's goth, baby.

Sorry. Sorry. He could be a coach's pick, but he didn't want that, I don't think. You're on the team. You're on the team. I mean, I guess he'd take it, yeah. Who, Zach Johnson's the captain this year. Yep.

The glasses on that guy. He couldn't make top glasses on that guy. He couldn't make top 70 on that tour. And I told this guy I'm going to make top 50 on the Champions for a week. Two different tours. JT will be on the Champions Tour by then too. He might be if they keep kicking him out of the playoffs. Let the guy win a little so he can retire.

No kidding. I think he's going to bounce back stronger. I think next season Justin Thomas is going to go on a tear. I honestly believe that. I think he's going to bounce back stronger. I think next season, Justin Thomas is going to go on a tear. I honestly believe that. I think he's going to go on an absolute tear. He will. He's playing really good golf. He was 13-under through this tournament. Remember, he wasn't making any putts. Nothing.

There was nothing falling. He was hitting very amateur golf shots during big-time tournaments. Missing cuts. It was like, damn, Justin Thomas. He'd shoot like a, Justin Thomas is falling apart. He'd shoot like a 69 the next day in 83. Yeah, so he's playing. That's golf.

Then he had two rounds of 80. Yeah. All right, let's get the hell out of here. It's been a good show. Boys, great work today. Big thanks to Pete Damo, Adam Thielen for joining us. Obviously, A.J. Hawk, all the boys, great work in the back. Dirty.

Dirty. Yes. Colts beat the Rams by 24. Just wanted to let you know. Probably 24. We might. I don't know what week it is. You guys said five?

Four. Four? Anthony Richardson's already going to have the NFL figured out by then. Yep. Probably. No worries at all. Plus 900 to win Rookie of the Year, I believe. Easy money.

Lock it in. Yep. Yeah, lock it in. Already did. All reports on him. I'd take that bet. All reports on a camper. I'd take that bet. All reports on a camper. Like, when you see this guy live, he's so big.

Which, 6'4", 255. Yeah. Imagine when it's live. And he's never going to be live during practice. Imagine when he gets in the games and he's actually live. Like, oh, okay, this guy has a whole new element. Bro, he's got real wiggle, too. Yeah.

Like, I think that's. I have watched him dunk. The crazy 360 windmill dunks. I mean, that's pretty impressive. Yeah. And this is the offense for him. Yes. Better than the offense he had in college for him. For sure. Situation it feels like is the best. Maybe Bryce

Young, but it feels like it is one of the best in the league. Alright, we'll have more about that tomorrow. And also John Gruden is both at an NFL training camp and wants to burn the NFL down. So that's an interesting thing. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.

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