The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 954 - Dalvin Cook Signs With The Jets, Texans Head Coach DeMeco Ryans, Mark Stone, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Dalvin Cook officially signing with the Jets, Zeke Elliott signing with the Pats, the amount of training camp fights that have be...en happening in joint practices, and everything else happening around the NFL. Joining the progrum is 2006 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, and now Head Coach of the Houston Texans, DeMeco Ryans to chat about the changes of being a first time Head Coach, changing the culture in Houston, his thoughts on his rookie class including CJ Stroud and Will Anderson, his mantra for the team this year, and more (1:25:39-1:48:55). Later, Stanley Cup Champion and Captain of the Las Vegas Golden Knights, Mark Stone joins the show to chat about his offseason, what he did the celebrate bringing Lord Stanley’s Cup to Las Vegas for the first time, how he’s feeling physically, where the donation from the show will be going as a result of winning the Cup, and a bet for next year as well (1:55:32-2:16:34). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Tuesday, August 15th, 2023. This sports program starts right now. Football! It's happening. Obviously the NFL has already started its preseason and we're right around the corner from college football. But today is a massive day because it seems like all across the NFL, joint practices are starting, which means fights are happening in every single one of them. The Washington Commanders and the Baltimore Ravens are joint practicing. Now, obviously, they are very near to each other, so this makes things very easy on the back end preseason-wise. But one little ha-ha hangs up with a ha-ha.
Starting point is 00:00:43 This is what joint practices are honestly this is what as a player i think we just expect out of all these now i know the talent evaluators get an opportunity to look at two different rosters in bottom half of rosters that could potentially need to fill or plug their roles and i know coaches are able to put situations where ones versus ones this is going to be a contained environment where there won't be any fuckery or any chance of anybody blowing an ACL. So they get a chance to see good on good for an extended period of time
Starting point is 00:01:12 as opposed to just a game that has situations kind of present themselves. We can present third and long with our ones. We can bring in one-on-ones with our new rookie tackle taking on somebody on the other side. So coaches love it. Scouts love it. The fans love it.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Odell Beckham Jr. caught a deep ball from Lamar Jackson this morning at that joint practice against the Washington Commanders. Hold on. There's news about that. We're not going to dive into that to kick off the show. Sure. But there is, I'm not saying it. No.
Starting point is 00:01:49 No, no. But there is a. You're going to be able to. I think there's a petition with 90,000 people that have signed it from the Native American Guardians Association, NAGA. Obviously, we have never heard of that. We did some research into it i do believe there are uh native but also some uh whites are involved in this so obviously the
Starting point is 00:02:13 angle is going to be that the whites are trying to do this entire thing i'm not 100 sure all i know is 90 000 signatures on a petition from a group that has Native American in it, is saying, bring back, bring it. Hail to the, they're saying, we can say it now. I thought,
Starting point is 00:02:41 I don't know if that's what this internet report is telling us. Now, I think it's very real. Josh Harris, who's the new owner of uh the uh washington team yeah i'll say it i'm he literally said it i know you will yeah i mean there's a lot of people just like you i think that's all they said we're like oh yeah got so this entire time and there is an entire argument to be said about like how if we continue to just eliminate these things that reference the native americans there's a chance that there's going to come a time where people don't even fucking remember the importance of the Native Americans.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And you kind of forget the whole conversation around it if you eliminate it from the conversation. Shout out to Michigan State. You know, you can forget. If you just try to silence everything, you potentially take something out of history forever if nobody hears about it. Now, when I thought that originally, I was obviously just thinking to myself, yeah, but you're a racist white asshole. So that's how you would view that, you know? Right. So we didn't maybe project that as publicly, but I did hear other people saying that and i believe that is what this thing also has in there like excuse me we would like to be remembered as a part of history because
Starting point is 00:03:50 this land is our land this land is not no your land anywhere no right that is that is kind of i don't know what's happening but josh Harris, the new owner, in the first press conference being announced as the new owner. Babyface. Remember, this guy saved his franchise. Jim Irsay. Babyface because he got the previous owner out. This guy, we got a new guy. Magic Johnson's in here. Josh Harris is in here.
Starting point is 00:04:18 We're now a team that people are going to respect and appreciate. We're going to be good and it's not always going to be burning down. We love Josh Harris. A fucking parade for this guy and then that first press conference he goes look at the history i mean the tradition of the yes does it yep no my buddy are you you allowed i don't know i don't know if you're are we i don't think you're allowed i don't think he cared i don't think so either it's awesome but then there's a chance that old josh harris knew that this was potentially happening yes as he was investigating or researching a team that he was potentially about to purchase for six seven billion dollars so there's maybe a chance that he
Starting point is 00:04:55 saw this on the horizon i will let everybody know that when the washington commanders that was their name right played against the indianapolis colts in Indianapolis. The Washington football team, that was also their name, had a lot of people in the stands. Yeah. A lot. Travel well. Very loud. Great fan base.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Every single fan that I saw of that team, they did not have a commander shirt on. No, they didn't. Still football team? No, they didn't have the WFT on there either. No, it was throwback Sunday. Yeah, exactly. You know, and every one of them.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I'm talking walk, you see a slew of pigs, you know, because they do wear the – The hog hats. Yeah, the whole thing. They're walking through every one of them. I – That ain't – That ain't it.
Starting point is 00:05:44 They just don't have a merch store out here right you know this is just the closest game yeah and then you turn the corner and there's a whole nother group you're like holy shit any post wins at this game uh it's crazy oh no and it's all just by unless it was scary terry mclaurin jerseys right it was the other uh josh harris said it, this happening. Feels like there's a lot of momentum towards this team being called the Washington... We're not saying, okay. I was just reading the room. It's not a done deal. It's not a done deal.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, so what happens here? Don't put the carpet before the horse. Like right now, there's people on the internet. Say it to me right now. Oh, yeah. There's people calling me a big old bitch for not saying it right now. That's what's going on. People are saying that on the internet say it to me right oh yeah there's people calling me a big old bitch for not saying that far that's what's going on people are saying that on the internet look at this big old bitch he won't say he won't say why don't you say why why don't you say and it's like i honestly i i'm
Starting point is 00:06:36 only not saying it because like i assumed once again dumbass and it tanked up. I assumed that the Native American folks were very pissed about this. Right. I assumed like, hey, our word is similar to, you know, N-word or any other racial slur for any other race of people. That's what I assumed, because I think that's kind of how it was painted, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Offensive. So then when I wake up and see this, I'm like, well, what the fuck is going on here? I assume they're going to have to get to the bottom of it a little bit more, but all signs are saying they're changing their name, the Washington Commanders, with his new ownership. And I think that's a smart play. And it feels like to take one step forward, you've got to take a couple decades. If they do change it back, they can't change it.
Starting point is 00:07:30 They can't be made to change it again because of double jeopardy. Bingo. Oh, so you're saying I already tried this once. You lost. You served your time. You were terrible people. Obviously, you did this whole thing. Now it's back. You're good forever. You guys already came at me for this. You can't do it again. Double jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Interesting. I'm very fascinated by it for this. You can't do it again. Double jeopardy. Bring it back. Interesting. I'm very fascinated by it because I thought Native American people hated it. Now, I don't have enough friends in the Native American community. That's what I also do. I feel like I have friends in a lot of communities. Damn near every single one of them.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It's a weapon of mine, actually, getting a chance to hear why everybody's potentially pissed about whatever the fuck's going on. That is a good weapon to have when you've got friends over. I don't think I have any Native American friends, so I just took that as gospel that that was it because that's what was being reported.
Starting point is 00:08:14 NFL team had to change it. Now seemingly not. I'll be excited to see how that fucking pans out. You know what I mean? I'll be excited. Anyways, Ravens are playing against the football team that is currently in the district's capital. In the worst stadium in the NFL. That needs to be renewed.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Anyways, Odell Beckham to Lamar Jackson. I'm sorry, Lamar Jackson to Odell Beckham. Could be the other way around, too, by the end of the year. Drops one into bucket form. He gets tackled. The fans see that. They're like, that's not just against the Baltimore Ravens corners. This is going to work in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:08:48 This is going to work during a regular season. Hope gets built during these joint practices, and we also know there's going to be scuffles. So congratulations to the Washington football teams, commanders teams, and the Baltimore Ravens battling it out this morning. Two fights already. Mark Andrews is in
Starting point is 00:09:03 one. Wide receiver and corner got another one. Let's assume four to five more throughout all these, and then we'll keep our eyes around the NFL and all these joint practices. One half of the toxic table at Boston Corner is taking on, I believe, the other half of the toxic table at Ty Schmidt in joint practices right now. Packers in New England, New England in Green Bay. New England in Green Bay. Yep. Okay, so there's like one hotel there in Green Bay. New England in Green Bay. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Okay, so there's like one hotel there. Remember, it's like an hour away. Yeah. So New England says, you know what? Most inconvenient place to travel to during the season? Will go. Let's go for a week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Let's go. You know, we're comfortable when others are uncomfortable, but that particular camp is going to get pretty rowdy, right? A lot of things to prove on both sides of the ball there. Yeah, a lot of young guys too, especially in those positions like you mentioned. Although the DBs and the wide receivers are going to get after it, we've got a lot of young linemen, a lot of unproven offensive, defensive linemen. I'm assuming that the Packers also.
Starting point is 00:10:00 It's going to get ugly. It's going to get violent. That's a group that fights. Like naturally, O-line, D-line violent. That's a group that fights. Like, naturally. O-line, D-line fight. That's actually a part of the position. All you need is just one little extra, and then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:10:14 what was that? And then everybody in those particular groups is actually judged on not only if they get in the fight, how they perform in the fight. This is part of your job. So whenever the O-line and D-line start fighting, normally those ones get pretty but, I will say the bigger fellows understand energy too.
Starting point is 00:10:31 We're not wasting too much energy in this heat. We've got to kind of balance it out. But I think with teams that have a lot to prove, that is obviously whenever it gets the most ugly. One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys turn digs this year. You look great. Can't wait to dive into some numbers that you've been finding that we can maybe profit and take advantage
Starting point is 00:10:47 of because the books might be sleeping. A 14-year NFL vet. A man who played corner for the entirety of it. An absolute icon. Pac-Man Jones is here. Pac, obviously, we're talking about NFL and we're talking about fighting. So, I don't think
Starting point is 00:11:03 there is a better human to be joining us than you. You were a man that enjoyed mixing it up. You've done some actual fighting and boxing in your post career. Still do that. Was not scared at all to fight somebody for Shaquille fucking O'Neal
Starting point is 00:11:20 in an airport while carrying some Popeye's chicken. So like to throw down. These joint practices guaranteed fight every single time, right? And is that why players either love it or hate it? How do you think most players feel about it? I think players love it. You know, there's always going to be somebody out there chirping, like when we just seen that play.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You would have been the guy. Yeah, that would have been me, the guy. He called the ball. I swiped his arm three times. Then he pushed me down. You know, I check him, you know, just a quick check, you know, to let him know I'm there. He probably checked me back, but nothing too big for that. Yeah, so like.
Starting point is 00:11:50 It's a normal day. That's what I don't think everybody fully comprehends. To you, that is a normal day. But whenever you talk to somebody that has never been in the football world, they're always like, well, that's illegal. You're not allowed to do that. Yeah. It's a rule.
Starting point is 00:12:01 It's like, bro, these are humans. They're tired. And this is joint practice. They're tired as fuck. This is two weeks of living in hotel or dorms, doing these practices, the scheduling, kind of figuring it out. So bodies are sore.
Starting point is 00:12:14 People are tired. Jobs are on the line. Hot as hell. Yes. Not everybody's going to have the most amount of coos. Well, those coaches need to tell them boys to keep it tight in between a whistle. You know what I mean? It's like, okay. Yeah, because some of those coaches, you know? No. Well, those coaches need to tell them boys to keep it tight in between a whistle. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:25 It's like, okay. Yeah, because some of those coaches, they wish they could. Oh, yeah. They wish they could fight the other people. And I don't want to say, like, the culture is almost like has to have a fight. It is.
Starting point is 00:12:35 But it has to. It has. If you don't have a fight, fans should be worried about their team. Yeah. Like, that is a real, if you do not get into a fight with another team, somehow, throughout the entirety of a practice together, I think you should worry about your team. team yeah like that is a real if you do not get into a fight with another team somehow throughout
Starting point is 00:12:45 the entirety of a practice together i think you should worry about your team i think that means when it gets cold i think when things get a little tough yeah i don't want to say ipso facto but you don't got any fighters you need some fighters on your team i think if you're going to create a winner in the nfl i'm glad you said that because i was and i'm glad this came out this morning because last week i was like where are all the fucking fights at in these joint practices? It was too quiet. I think it was maybe the first week of camp or whatever,
Starting point is 00:13:13 and everyone was still too happy. I don't know, though. This next generation, they might legitimately just be so intelligent. No, the Bengals was popping off. We're going to have about four or five fights. The Bengals and the Packers, they got into a real good one. The one we just seen, that was decent. Apparently the Bills.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yep. Bills had a big one. I mean, they still getting it in. We need helmets off, swinging helmets. Well, yeah, the Browns, Giants. That's what I'm looking for. Remember when it was Sterling Shepard versus DB? That's what we need.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Do we have the Ravens fight? Sorry, Mark Andrews fight. There's a dude walking real close to the fight without a helmet. Like, not dressed. Do not do that. Yeah, bingo. Do not do that. As I was watching the video, I was like, somebody needs to go hold that guy.
Starting point is 00:13:55 He wasn't even, like, paying attention. He was, like, looking the other way. He starts walking by past us. Mark Andrews. I think a guy gets a pick, and then Mark gets a little piss. I saw Tucker put his helmet on real quick in one fight. Oh, yes. Yeah, that is just, like, a known thing. I think a guy gets a pick and then Mark gets a little piss I saw Tucker put his helmet on real quick Oh yes That is just like a known thing and also
Starting point is 00:14:08 You put your helmet on As you're putting it on you gotta do that violently He's on film He's trying to mix it up Here's another fight here from training camp Mark Andrews we don't know what happened we can't see it He was not happy this guy ended up with the ball though Belly to back suplex
Starting point is 00:14:23 Nothing to see here I I'm walking away. Everybody can fuck off. Somebody said, what'd you just do to my fucking teammate? Mark Andrews in the middle. There's the guy that just walked by with no helmet. That guy needs to relax. People at the Guardian, smart. I like that. I probably would have done the same if I would have been around a training camp practice, a joint one, knowing
Starting point is 00:14:39 a fight's coming. But that was a pretty good little scrap. Started with a little W-W-E, ended with a little pushy-shovey. Call Chase Young. The slam was really good. He's a big-sounding bitch. Yeah, but you know what I noticed from that video is look how big Baltimore is and how small the Washington.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You know why he's mad, though? What's that? Because he took him down to the ground. Yeah, and he picked him up. You know we don't go down to the ground. Oh, you're talking about Andrews was pissed? Yeah. Oh, that guy tripped him. Yeah, and then the ball came out. It wasn't a catch. Fuck you, kid. Yeah, boom. This isn't go down to the ground. Oh, you're talking about Andrews was pissed? Yeah. Oh, that guy tripped him.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah, and then the ball came out. It wasn't a catch. Fuck you, kid. Yeah, boom. This isn't how the NFL does it. All right, all right. I enjoyed it. He did not appreciate the fact that that guy was celebrating something
Starting point is 00:15:16 that he tripped me and the ball was not caught. Okay, I like that. Mark, let's have some standard. When you're doing practices like this, you don't hit up. You pull up right here. You make sure he stay up because you don't want nobody to get hurt. Like, that's have some standards. Because in joint practices like this, you don't hit up. You pull up right here, you make sure he stay up because you don't want nobody to get hurt. That's a bad play by the corner right there.
Starting point is 00:15:29 It looked like they was in cover too just then. Being able to practice is a big deal in the NFL. Yeah. Don't go to the ground. You hear a lot of people say, stay up, stay up, stay up. You have no idea what can happen on the fall. What? There could be something.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And then not even on the fall, like the mix-up before the fall. Yeah, yeah. So much shit happens in there. I've seen a guy, I think he pulled his hamstring because legs got twisted and ended up being in, like, a different place. Obviously, the corner got cut immediately. Right, on the spot. It was an immediate, see you later.
Starting point is 00:16:01 You can't practice. You're out of here. And they tell you that. They tell the younger guys, hey, look, we know you guys want to make the team, but you're not going to make the team in here on Monday through Friday. Only way you're going to make the team on here is on Saturday and Sunday. Like, the main thing is to keep everybody up. Like, you might have one period where you're thudding,
Starting point is 00:16:21 but you still ain't taking nobody down to the ground. Yeah, and then you get these joint practices. It's all hell and earth. That guy seems to have a lot of moxie over here, huh? Honey, I fucking hate that guy. That's all you need is one guy. All you need is one guy in a position. So, like, if it's a linebacker, just internally sees the way somebody's operating.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I don't like the way that guy's going about doing his shit. That's the one. Two plays later, the whole team is fighting. Get him. Yeah, what happened? How'd we get here? I didn't like the way. That guy's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Did you see what he did to me after? I don't like that. So joint practices will bring that. We think it's a good thing. Now, and by good thing, it's like definitely going to happen. There's no reason to get upset about it. There are people, though, every single year that get really upset about stuff that happened in preseason. I remember somebody who was supposed to be suspended.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Oh, yeah. That's right. Aaron Donald. That's right. It was Aaron Donald. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Ripping that guy's helmet off.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Took that guy's helmet off and tried to Miles Garrett him. Yeah. Yeah. And people were like, six games, eight games. Get him out of here. Enjoying practice. Yeah. And was like, don't know how to tell you this.
Starting point is 00:17:23 That happens. This is actually the recipe for a fucking fight. So we just have to assume that fights are going to happen now. We do not like weapons being used. No. Okay, and if there's any folding chairs
Starting point is 00:17:36 around any of those joint practices, okay, I think after the world got a chance to see their abilities. That's right. Folding chairs. Very recently. Get those things out of there. People that maybe didn't watch WWE growing up
Starting point is 00:17:50 or whatever, like, there's a chance that people are just learning about these folding chairs and what they're able to do and we need to keep asses in those when these fights start happening. Bingo. Because there is a chance that somebody rips somebody's helmet off and hits them in the head with it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 That's happened live in-game primetime. That has happened certainly in practice. Aaron Donner was the guy that they almost kicked out and he said it was just practice. It was football, bro. Exactly. What are we even talking about? Five months after.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Did you see what that guy did to me? He tried to get my helmet. I could get his. I win. That's called me winning the rep. And I'm just trying to finish it this isn't on sunday although more people saw it on the internet than would be watching the game it's a fascinating little development that these are just fight factories
Starting point is 00:18:35 yeah it's the same way like what albert haynes was dirty ass when he uh stepped on the guy face for the cab oh yeah what a piece of shit he is. Is that preseason or regular season? Well said, Pac. Preseason. There's been a lot of those types of situations on the field. We hope none of those happen today. That's right.
Starting point is 00:18:56 That's all we hope. Let's move along to some other news happening around the NFL. Dalvin Cook is no longer cooking at home with our team. No. Dalvin Cook is now a New York Jet after signing with them yesterday. Congrats to him. Eight point some million dollars he will be able to earn this upcoming season. Last week we chit-chatted with Diana Rossini who lives in the New Jersey area, has been to training camp.
Starting point is 00:19:19 She said that there was maybe a little bit of a disagreement between the New York Jets and Dalvin Cook on the role on the team, especially with Brees Hall seemingly being all the way back. Brees Hall last year, for those that don't know, because the Jets kind of stunk and they didn't really do much going later in the season, Brees Hall is a dog. Brees Hall was a rookie last year, and he was remarkable. Every game seemingly having a 70-yard touchdown pulling away. Then offensive lineman gets hurt. He gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:19:46 The season becomes what it was. But Brees Hall coming back is a massive thing for the New York Jets. So whenever Diana Rossini said that Dalvin Cook and the Jets couldn't agree on a role for him, we all assumed, okay, that means Brees Hall is green
Starting point is 00:20:02 flag racing. He is wide open. He's going to be all the way back. They believe that. We respect flag racing. He is wide open. He's going to be all the way back. They believe that. We respect that decision. We like that decision. He's going to the Dolphins or he's going to the Colts. Now, signs for eight point some million.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Feels like that's a lot of money. Feels like that's a lot of money. He's Dalvin Cook, so I assume he's going to get the rock a lot. We don't know what it's going to be role-wise, but if you have Dalvin Cook on your team, you're going to use Dalvin Cook. So now you've got Brees Hall and Dalvin Cook in the backfield. How you doing? Keep it moving.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You've got Garrett Wilson on the outside. How you doing? Keep it moving. You've got CJ Uzama at tight end. You've got Alan Lazard out there. You've got a team full of weapons if their offensive line can hold up, which Aaron and Nathaniel Hackett will be able to strategize around.
Starting point is 00:20:51 We're not the only people realizing that their offensive line isn't great and you need an offensive line to be great in the NFL. And maybe they will be great. We have no idea yet because the season hasn't started. But Hackett and Aaron don't want to die. They know that there's a bad offensive line potentially. You can strategize around that. idea yet because the season hasn't started but Hackett and Aaron don't want to die no they know that there's a bad offensive line potentially you can strategize around that let's assume that Aaron in hack in the offense will be able to figure that out if they have to even if it is a little
Starting point is 00:21:14 bit of adversity in the front line for the first you know eight weeks or so but this team is fucking stacked and the fact that the Jets are a destination for people now should make Jets fans excited, everybody else envious. And the thought that Aaron is now going to have the opportunity to build what I think he wanted to build in Green Bay, in the largest market in the world, is a very awesome little chapter for the next football life of the kid out of NorCal. But Dalvin's a weapon, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Oh, yeah. I was hoping he'd be a cult. But instead, the rich. Yes. Anthony Richardson has been announced starter. We'll get into that. This ain't about the Colts. We're talking about a different AR.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I think the Dolphins were hoping for the same thing about Dalvin Cook because he was coming back home. Already went to Florida State one time. Didn't go to Miami. He's going to come play hometown team. Now he's going to the Jets. Pac-Man, what an addition. Even if Brees Hall is good, having two guys at that position in the modern NFL
Starting point is 00:22:13 is a weapon for you. I think this is one of the biggest moves for NFL football right now. With the defense being good as they are, you're going to have to put nine in the box now every time. I haven't seen the last time where a defense can play Aaron Rodgers with putting nine fucking people in the box and letting him pick, dark pick, who you want to pick on the whole game. With Dalvin Cook and Breece Hall in the backfields, this should be amazing. I'm eager to see how this goes.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I expect the Jets to be playing the Bengals for the AFC. AFC Championship? Yeah. Yeah, I saw you were at training camp the other day. Said they didn't want to see your bowl. We're going to talk about that certainly in a little bit. The thought about a packed box, though, and having to be a packed box, because even if Dalvin gets hurt, which is possible,
Starting point is 00:23:00 it's a running back position, not easy. Even if Bruce gets hurt, possible. Running back position, not easy. You'd hope you hurt, possible. Running back position, not easy. You'd hope you'd have at least one of them. So you never have a superstar drop-off. Having a superstar that takes the attention of the defensive coordinator throughout the week is good for having to strategize against what you're going to have on the back end.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Now, puts a little bit more pressure on that O-line. But you know what makes O-line's life easier? If you establish a run game. Because then they can come off the ball and go forward as opposed to having to come back all the time. And I think, I think Aaron and Hack know. I think he do. That Aaron's best moments, Tom Brady's best moments,
Starting point is 00:23:41 Peyton Manning's best moments, pretty much everybody that's ever been good at that position's Best moments are when the run game is Fucking very good Because this boy right here Oh Buddy Especially if you can throw it on a dot
Starting point is 00:23:57 Linebackers get sucked up You know what I mean those linebackers get sucked up Because whenever they see that ball They're like oh run I gotta get downhill They are getting sucked up. Because whenever they see that ball, they're like, oh, run. I got to get downhill. Big time stuff. They're getting sucked up. Sucked up. All day long.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Oh, my. Sucked up. And then, whoosh. Oh, my God. I'm getting sucked. Oh, no. Oh, no. And then, boom.
Starting point is 00:24:17 You just got a little Zorma. Yep. Right behind her. Bang. You got Cobb. Still got it. Yeah. We assume he's going to get how many third downs?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Probably like seven or eight because we've got. This season. He'll have 20 catches this year and 18 of them will be for first downs on third down. And you know what they'll look like? Yeah. Bingo. Dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Sucked up. Bang. Right behind it. It is. I think it's a great move. I'm happy they went and did it. Yeah. Now, they're not the only team that signed a running back yesterday.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Hell yeah. Zeke, formerly of the Dallas Cowboys, one of the faces of the Dallas Cowboys, got paid a lot of money by the Dallas Cowboys. Now a member of the New England Patriots. Wow. Whoa. Just yesterday, Ezekiel Elliott was announced to be signing for $6 million, up to $6 million, to join the New England Patriots.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Now, the running back market is what it is. Maybe a little bit more money for Zeke. We all had thought, because of how established he is and what type of football player he is, everybody thinks because Tony Pollard came in and became this electrifying offensive figure for the Dallas Cowboys that Zeke maybe doesn't have it anymore. Well, Bill Belichick doesn't believe that to be the case. Michael Lombardi came on our show last week, and he said, I believe both those guys know where they're going,
Starting point is 00:25:29 just about figuring out the money. As soon as he said that, we thought to ourselves, oh, that means the Patriots probably signing Zeke because Lambeau's pretty tied in pretty good up in New England, and Zeke has only been tied to New England. They make it official yesterday. What does this mean for you, and why do you think Zeke was so high on Bill Belichick's wish list?
Starting point is 00:25:44 I assume he was just so high on Bill Belichick's wish list? I assume he was just so high on him just because he's the greatest coach in the history of the entire planet. I think we can say across all sports, but also Zeke, he kind of was in that third down back role with the Cowboys. It felt like after Pollard
Starting point is 00:25:59 kind of took that over and with Ramondre Stevenson and the O-line, they needed help, especially at their number two running back position. But, you know, I can't emphasize enough. I am very, very happy to have Zeke. But being a fan for a team where at one point this offseason we were favorites to get Dalvin Cook and DeAndre Hopkins, I can't act like I'm not just a little bit disappointed
Starting point is 00:26:22 that we didn't get Dalvin Cook. Welcome to the city, Zeke! I can't. Thought we were getting another guy. We have a running back going into his third year, and he just came off his best season. He had like 1,200 yards. Now, he wasn't good on the goal line is what the percentages are saying,
Starting point is 00:26:39 apparently. You know, he was 24th in the league in goal-to-go percentages scoring. Zeke was fourth in the league. So, he's definitely going to bring a great element, great in pass blocking too. But you know, yeah, it's tough when the division rival gets one of the best running backs in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Oh, I forgot about that. Zeke Elliott. You remember, players used to ring chase up to New England. Because they got Tom. Now, people are like, how many taxes can I pay to the state of New Jersey? Exactly. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You know, like when Tom went to Tampa, everybody was like, not only is Tom there, but also you got no state income tax. The weather's nice. You're right there on the bay. Oh, it is a perfect city. You're going to love it. Come on down here. Let's get a ring.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Let's do that whole thing. Now it's like, come on up. Pay 75% tax here. It's going to get a little bit chilly sometimes. How's the traffic? The worst, actually. Broadway, though. But?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Plays every night of the week. You're right. Jersey Boys. Wicked. Restaurants. Chicago. So many good restaurants. Now granted, to get there from where we live, you're going to have to go
Starting point is 00:27:45 into the city. But also, New Jersey has some. Jersey's nice. Smells terrible, but it's nice. On the way in, on one particular highway, it does smell like, I don't know, a can of ass. Raw sewage.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Just kind of open up a nice can of ass. Just right into whatever you're in. But that's just that one part. Jersey is beautiful. Yes, they're a gem. Absolutely beautiful. But, like, New York is now the destination for people to go win a ring alongside a guy. What's that?
Starting point is 00:28:18 I mean, we're putting the cart before the horse a little bit. I mean, we're saying that we're going to have to put nine people in the box against the Packers because Dalvin Cook, but they're all terrible. Excuse me, Jets. Their O-line isn't good in every single D-line. Hold on. Hold on. Every single D-line that they're playing is going to be very, very good. The strength of everybody's team in
Starting point is 00:28:38 the AFC East on defense is their D-line. So, I mean, I completely agree. Hey, listen. Hey, tell Dalvin Cook that. No, no. I'm sure he knows. It's not as if there are easy D-lines in the NF listen. Tell Dava Cook that. I'm sure he knows. It's not as if there are easy D-lines in the NFC North. Well, kind of there are. But it's not as if it was easy running the entire time. You don't pack the box.
Starting point is 00:28:56 You will see number four, the back of his jersey saying Cook, I'm telling you. I completely agree. You could probably put seven in there. But to say you're going to put nine people in the box against Aaron Rodgers is ridiculous. Well, I think telling you. I completely agree. You could probably put seven in there. But to say you're going to put nine people in the box against Aaron Rodgers is ridiculous. Well, I think he was being a little dramatic. Okay, sure. I think he was probably overselling it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Absolutely. But, yeah, I do believe that the running back being a weapon for them at all times, you would think they wouldn't both go down. Even the third's really good. What's that, pal? Michael Carter's really good, even if they did. Yeah, but, like, okay Michael Carter's really good even if they did. Yeah, but like, okay, still got a good run game is what you're saying
Starting point is 00:29:30 or whatever, but like just having those like, if Brees Hall is able to return to form, and I know that's the biggest question, which is weird because Dalvin Cook's so much older and everything like that, but like if Brees Hall can mimic what he was able to do easily in the
Starting point is 00:29:46 nfl whenever he entered in there which is just cook yes that's all he was doing it was remarkable to watch this young dude just kind of pick it up on it so quickly cutbacks knowing where he's supposed to go pulling away from motherfuckers catching the ball out of the backfield it was like this dude was a home run draft pick for the Jets. Then he gets hurt. He only did it for one year, like eight games or ten games, whatever it was. Are we just guaranteeing he's going to do that again?
Starting point is 00:30:16 And if he is, and Dalvin Cook's able to mimic what he was just doing a year ago, I mean, here we go. Even if they didn't have Aaron Rodgers, I think that would be a team you're like like think they could scheme away with these two running backs to win some fucking games let alone you add in there aaron rogers as well that's that i mean what the fuck he was available right could have been a cold free agent this guy could have been who could have never been a cold aaron rogers and then could this whole thing not have happened in Indianapolis? How many people are thinking about that?
Starting point is 00:30:48 You know what I mean? Aaron doesn't want to come to – he would love Indianapolis. But this is just like when Tom went to Tampa, and then Gronk's there, AB's there on the football field. He's also there off the field in the house that we were paying for. Right. Four net. Documented.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Yeah, four net. People start just going there. It feels like the right move is if you can get one of these OGs that we were paying for. Fournette. Documented. Yeah, Fournette, like people start just going there. It feels like the right move is if you can get one of these OGs that's on the move. Now you're only going to have a little bit of time. Exactly. Rams. That was quick.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah, it's very quick. I mean, Tampa too. Very quick. But they won, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, exactly. In their homes. Both of them. Back-to-back years.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Without what they had, they still, damn near, almost could have made the playoffs last year. Yeah, 7-9. 7-10. They were 6-3 going into the bye. Yeah, that's crazy. And adding what they just added. Here we go, Jets.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Hey, good luck out there. Good luck. Good luck to Ezekiel in New England, although it doesn't sound like it's a welcome party. I don't think he's excited at all. No, it is. Like I said, very, very excited. But would you equate Zeke and Dalvin Cook in the last two years?
Starting point is 00:31:50 No, not at all. Have they been the same thing? No. So, I mean, there is a little bit of, you know, nice, pumped. Dalvin Cook, also pretty damn good. Zeke can play the whole line, though. Your center gets hurt. That's true.
Starting point is 00:32:01 What did old buddy say about Dalvin? Old buddy said about Dalvin, the Vikings offered him $7 million. Yeah, that's what they said. We got leaked. That was leaked somehow. We don't know what's real, what isn't real at this stage of the game, and who's leaking what information.
Starting point is 00:32:13 That's what you have to always try to remember. Like, did the Vikings leak this information because they wanted their fans to say, hey, we tried. Yeah. You know, we made, we're big fans of him as well. We tried, we did this.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Or is Dalvin's people leaking that, saying like, look at the – he got more money? Like, who leaked the information that the Vikings offered him $7 million? He said no and then took $8.6 at New York. That would be an interesting conversation, I guess, to find out on the back end there who did what. But nonetheless, he has a new home. And the Jets seemingly just get better and better. Speaking of getting better and better, this Madden game, right?
Starting point is 00:32:45 Yeah. Yeah. Well, does it ever come out? So it's coming out soon. The Lux version came out last night at 8. They had a lot of problems right off the bat. Apparently, you could only play quick play. Okay, so the Lux version comes out early. You pay an extra hundo, I heard.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah, $20. Yeah, I guess it's $90. Yeah, extra $20. What's that? So the regular game, if you're buying it for like PS5,'s $90. Yeah, extra $20. What's that? So the regular game, if you're buying it for PS5, is $69.99. The deluxe one, which I think you get a couple additional things with it, it's $99.99. Bill lied to me earlier.
Starting point is 00:33:17 He did. He said it's an extra $100. It's not. I thought that was a good idea, just $100, just kind of steal from everybody, but not really let them play the game, because that's what it sounds like happened, right? Yeah. All these people paid this extra money to get Madden a little bit early.
Starting point is 00:33:30 They were able to get on, but it wasn't fully finished. They were only able to play quick play, which the internet told me, what are we doing? Yeah, it's ridiculous. Game got worse. You even let us buy this. Why did you let us do that? Chad Ochoa-Sinco told us.
Starting point is 00:33:41 He did. That anything that you don't like about Madden, blame him. Are we assuming the game's going to be much different than what rolled out last night? And when does that roll out than the full version? And why do they do all this for 20 extra bucks from people and kind of let everybody dump on the game last night? See, and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Because anytime something like that, that just means that a shitload of people bought it last night. Like the servers were just bogged down.
Starting point is 00:34:03 time something like that like that just means that a shitload of people bought it last night like the servers were just bogged down you know it's like anytime we have done something new where it's like either we're switching the podcast to a different platform like what always happens we fucking crash the website every single time like it just it it's what happens when a shitload of people go to it so it's a good thing and a bad thing exactly and you weren't prepared so you look amateur exactly but also but also good problem yeah look how many people probably paid a hundred bucks to get this thing early i think it actually the actual release date like if you look amateur. Exactly. But also, good problem. Look how many people probably paid $100 to get this thing early. I think the actual release date, if you look online, is next Tuesday, I think. So it comes out next week. So they've given themselves a week runway to kind of get everything right.
Starting point is 00:34:36 But I would imagine, too, that this is the kind of thing, they'll have this fixed by today because they are just getting killed and taking it on the shins on the internet right now. But everybody's expecting to, okay, that's awesome. Hell yeah. There are a couple glitches. Score a touchdown, get squatted, because that is what we do. He's dead.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Dead. Corlin Sutton. Out for the year. Because he got squatted? That's right. Hey, listen, we've never seen that type of injury happen before, where somebody gets actually the Lex Luger torture racket. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:35:04 That's kind of what happened here. They roll into it, too. It's a good transition. And this guy. Boom. It's like if you did that in a squared circle, people would be like, that's a hell of a good way to get in there. That was actually a pretty good way to get in there.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Madden said, we got you. That torture rack did take people out. It did. So I can see why Carlin Sutton would be in a little bit of trouble right there. Yeah, it was a good sell. Good sell on him after a great touchdown. But people are going into Madden looking to hate it, right? Yes, for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Almost every year it is, and this year is not even like let's go in and hate it. It's like this is it. If this game isn't good, people are actually. Yeah, but you Madden people said that last year. Yeah, believe me. And the year before that, right? I'm a Madden chill. I will always buy Madden.
Starting point is 00:35:48 But it seems as though the internet has actually put their foot in the sand. I like that, by the way. I like whenever there comes a time it says, nah. Now, to Tone's point, it does feel like we have hit this line a couple times. Yes. But you guys love football and video games so much. Love them both. More than anything, really. And without 2K.
Starting point is 00:36:06 No 2K, yeah. Baseball, I mean, it is interesting. Madden has to hit this year. I think this year is different just because of all the news and stuff that they've been talking about with everything they changed. So the game has been the same for a long time. But if they change everything.
Starting point is 00:36:20 You're a pretty good player, too. People need to know this, right? You spent a lot of your life in this sport. Yes, I've played video games my whole life. Madden has always been a staple, no matter what. Madden and Duty, I've been playing since I was five years old. But the biggest thing about this year is they've – You get outside.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I would go outside sometimes, but then a lot of the times, you know, everyone's like, hey, let's play hide-and-seek. I'll search everyone. Everyone's gone. He wasn't allowed to smoke cigarettes in the house, so he had to go. Yeah, I understand. Run outside for a little. But the big thing this year is that they're saying they're changing everything for the better of the game and if they don't actually do
Starting point is 00:36:50 that then it's going to stink i do believe there has been some better reviews this morning because the game is working much better and the franchise mode was the biggest thing that they wanted to change they've done a lot of stuff to that that's cool like next year for instance like if marvin harrison jr is in the draft, you can actually draft him in the game, and then that guy has the potential to be a 99. So it's not like a career mode. It's like a college to NFL mode.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You run a combine with this guy? You can do like a scout. Got to get a good getoff on that. Bro, what if you drop his ass from first round to fifth round all of a sudden Marvin Harrison because you're 40 times so goddamn slow? That'd be smart. That would be a good innovation. They don't have all that shit?
Starting point is 00:37:33 You have to assign scouts. So essentially you have scouts. You have the whole front office, and you will say, okay, we want to put our best scout in the Big Ten. But you guys kind of want this to be like Sims but from football, right? Yeah, kind of. You would like it to be as realistic. Like Grand Theft. Yes. Yeah, like as realistic. Like, let
Starting point is 00:37:50 me do as much as possible. A lot of Madden people say that, or Madden players say that Madden's been lazy, right? Very, very lazy. Oh, can't be title lazy when you're a greedy corporate fat guy. I've been playing 23 just to figure out how lazy they are, especially with Oh, we're doing research. Doing research. I've been playing 23 just to figure out how lazy they are, especially with what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Oh, we're doing research. Doing research. I've been playing it for the last month just to figure out what Madden 24. I like that. This seems pretty similar, doesn't it? Oh, yeah, I was just playing it yesterday. Bingo. Yeah, I was looking for this, actually.
Starting point is 00:38:16 This is from this year, the scrum. It's called a little rugby. Oh, who's on offense? The Broncos? Not positive, but I think that might be last year. There was a lot of this last year. This is classic, though. This happens every time a video game comes out on the first day.
Starting point is 00:38:29 There will be a bunch of bugs, and then they'll have to pass. That guy's still standing. Ball's way over here, though. Yeah, he doesn't have the ball. The ball's the program, boys. The ball is the program. Is that gangbang? Is that a bukkake?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Get the ball! What did you say? Is that a bukkake? What's that? A bukkake? Get them all. What did you say? Is that a bukkake? What's that? A bukkake? Isn't that what we talked about with Rap Sheet, where one guy jumps on one side of something, and then the other guy gets launched into something?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Oh, yeah, that's a blob. Oh, a blob. I think you're talking about a lot of blobs. Yeah, exactly. Tons of blobs. Yeah, a lot of blobs. Is that what you're referring to? Yeah, blobs on faces.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Blobbing everywhere. Like a lot. Yeah, bingo. Imagine walking into one of those blob parties. People do that on a regular basis. Have I ever met somebody? That's an interesting thing. Oh yeah, I mean I think we were with him kind of recently in
Starting point is 00:39:19 California. Or excuse me, Nevada. On the line. Participant or? kind of both actually hosting oh that's awesome i don't want to dive too deep into this probably 50 of people that you were in that tournament with yeah well the 50. oh yeah you're right that golf tournament probably had a lot of ball yeah a lot of rich people out there yeah is that what we think they're the ones that are mostly i think a ton of poors are doing it uh you never know i've earned a quick buck i've seen yeah rich people love i was just gonna say oh i know who
Starting point is 00:39:56 you're talking about yeah yeah yeah the wrestler certainly certainly yeah but i was talking about other stuff with him the entire time yeah yeah i had to Yeah, I'm sure he dabbled in different fields Yeah, I have talked to a guy Certainly And to Tony's point too I think I thought, yeah, this guy's probably Wow Kind of cool
Starting point is 00:40:16 Anyways, that glitch Can't have it Can't have it Not in 2023 But I'm excited to see Madden grow And remember, if it sucks, Ocho Cinco Which can't happen. Can't happen. Can't happen. Can't happen. Can't happen. Not in 2023. No, it's the stuff. But I'm excited to see Madden grow. And remember, if it sucks, Ocho Cinco.
Starting point is 00:40:32 He said it, what, hashtag fuck Chad, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what he said. Yeah. So it's about up right now. It's about up. Probably.
Starting point is 00:40:40 He's pushing for it. It's about up. You guys want the game to be different. Do you guys, like, have ideas to make the game different, though? Foxy's saying, listen, we have too many problems in society. What we need is some answers. Some solvers. Do you guys want to bitch about it or offer up some ideas to make it better? It feels like they actually did listen because all the, like, basically from the Madden community,
Starting point is 00:41:01 the majority of the ideas surrounded franchise mode. And they basically focused on that the most also face of the franchise was something that they really screwed up last year, but it does feel like, at least for me, the biggest thing was in franchise mode, just as the years go on, like players have to get better.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I will say the biggest thing I've noticed from playing 23 to these last, this Matt last month, they don't know what the salary cap is so i've been trying to do the salary cap the way where you can pay everybody but uh when you kind of increase the bonuses it doesn't help whatsoever which is a big storyline of the nfl right now exactly for the last couple years is the salary cap gymnastics yeah so you're not allowed to do that which pissed me off actually a lot hey you, you think his program covered that? I think we probably... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Oh, yeah. Yeah, the reporting of it and... I feel like we... That was something I feel like we put our investigative journalism caps on. Oh, yeah. Now, are we journalists? Think of school for it. I mean, when called upon.
Starting point is 00:42:00 But I'll journal. Yeah. Do you journal? I do. Every night before bed. Do you? Mm-hmm. That's's good commitment
Starting point is 00:42:05 yeah but i know you're journaling and fucking new song comes out every two days that's right right i'm journaling hell yeah we're journalists nobody's all day we investigated that though because that was a real change in a swing in how teams were constructed uh we're only allowed to pay this so much but you look at this clause down here, 98BA714. I think we can actually just take that money completely out of this year. Give it to the player now. We'd be heroes in that person.
Starting point is 00:42:33 They're happy. We're happy. Then we can just divvy it up through the duration of the entire contract. Instead of taking the $100 million in this one year, we can just knock that thing to $25 million a year for the next four. And look what we're doing. We're saving a lot of room.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Look what we did. $75 million we just opened up in the cap that we can go spend. And guess what we can do to them? Ho, ho. Buddy. Same thing. We're doing this again. We're doing this for the entire roster.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Now they're going to say we kick it down the road. We'll have to deal with it later. That seems like all bullshit to me. Because guess what we're doing when we get down the road later we're still kicking aren't we until we're dead we're just kicking this can forever and listen to this they got void we read read down here they got void years you can add on to this what does that mean they're just fake so like, if you want to make this contract a $100 million signing bonus, make it a 27-year contract, 20 years of it void. What does that mean? Well, the 20 years, like, aren't real,
Starting point is 00:43:33 but for the purpose of the $100 million Divvy bonus thing, very real. So you're saying we're only getting, like, $4 million against the cap next year? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Wow. So we go from $100 million like $4 million against the Cavs next year? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Wow. So we go from $100 million to $4 million with one guy, and there's 20 years of void contract. Bingo. Somebody started doing that.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yes. Tampa, I think Kansas City, Veach started doing this particular move. Whenever he signed Patrick, they did that very long. New Orleans Saints did this. Then the Rams obviously did this. And teams that started winning Super Bowls off of this idea. Now, to be clear, we were all on board with this. Then the Rams obviously did this. And teams that started winning Super Bowls off of this idea. Now, to be clear, we were all on board with this.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Loudly. Because we were trying to get to the bottom of it. How is everybody getting paid right now? This is awesome. This must be something new. It did. That can that you kicked down the road, it does end up not being kickable at one point. Yeah, you really eat some shit.
Starting point is 00:44:28 This is the first full cycle of this salary cap gymnastic fuckery that is the voided years and the signing bonus thing. And I know Bill and Tom have been doing this for a long time up in New England, but it really started to become an actual strategy for the team builder. It's like what you can do with it is wild. We, from the very beginning, very excited about it. Pumped it heavily. Your owner doesn't care about your team if you're not doing this.
Starting point is 00:44:50 If your GM does not do this, and then here we are a couple years later and it's like... It's beating the rules and we're playing within the rules. But then the rules do show up at the front door and they have kicked some people right in the nuts. Yeah, like if the player retires or doesn't play good that you're doing this for,
Starting point is 00:45:10 fucked. Brutal. Brutal. Absolutely done. Because the contract, you're still eating that bit. You also got to eat the following if they retire. So that whole thing comes in a much bigger left hook that you kind of delayed for a long time.
Starting point is 00:45:23 But I guess you just ripped the Band-Aid off. But you've got to start back from the bottom pretty much at scratch. But you're going for it, and you're going to win a Super Bowl. I love that it's kind of now just expected out of teams to do it when they need to open some space because not that long ago it was vastly different. No, I mean, you look at like the Titans with Tannehill, like the year after they went to the AFC Championship
Starting point is 00:45:42 or whenever they lost in the playoffs, and he said he had to go to therapy and stuff because it was very tough for him to get over it. But then they get rid of A.J. Brown. Come on. Come on. It meant a lot to him. He beat it.
Starting point is 00:45:57 He's got past it, which we're very happy about. But then they get rid of A.J. Brown, and they're not nearly as good the next two years with him. And every offseason, they're talking about, hey, we either need to trade this guy or we need to redo his contract because what we just did two years ago. We're not in the same area. This guy can't take us as deep in the playoffs as we thought he once could. And now we've fucked the rest of the team because of it.
Starting point is 00:46:20 So does anybody want him? Can we trade him? And here we are, and he's still starting. I'm happy I don't have to make those decisions you know yeah because i'm just paying everybody 100 year contract 98 years void sorry about it yeah and somebody's gonna come on say you're only allowed to do eight year contracts or whatever it's like okay same premise whenever they're signing some of these people this is a eight year deal with five voided years, it's like, that is not an eight-year deal. And I've never heard of a voidable contract.
Starting point is 00:46:48 That doesn't even make sense. So it's not a contract. If it's voidable by both sides, that's not a contract. We'll talk about it later about this potentially being in there. But in the NFL, it just became a strategy. So, mad respect.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Taysom Hill got like $400 million. Yes, he did. With four avoidable years. With a contract that could be worth $13 million, could be worth $45 million. Whenever he was potentially going to be quarterback no longer. Seems like they got their guy down there in Derek Carr. A lot of people tell me we were dangling a little bit too much on Derek Carr. What?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Because he had one good drive. Some people are telling me that. Everybody hates everybody. I'm fucking sick of it. I'm tired of it. You know, you don't have to just say something bad about somebody every time. You're not allowed to say anything good about anybody. Like, if Derek Carr has a good game, like...
Starting point is 00:47:35 He had a decent game. He had a good game. He gained 20 pounds of muscle in the offseason. In his arm. Yeah, all in his arm. We don't know about anywhere else, but it's like... Thank you, Jesus. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I think we should celebrate Derek Carter right now. Now, preseason game, so it is what it is. And a lot of people saying that after every highlight that we post somewhere. But it's like, Michael Thomas is back. There he is. That's good news. Derek found him. Derek's on the run.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Derek drops off to Kamara. Perfect. Kamara's not going to be there for three weeks. But guess what? He's fresh for 14. Yeah. 17-game season. And then this touchdown here, to aara. Perfect. Kamara's not going to be there for three weeks, but guess what? He's fresh for 14. Yeah. 17-game season. And then this touchdown here to a spot.
Starting point is 00:48:09 How you doing? Over the guy's head. No coverage could stop that. No. It's a perfect throw. Perfect. Well, I don't know. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:48:17 You thought he was okay, Pat? Is that what you just said? I thought he played pretty good. The ball was precise. He had his reads. He went from one read, hit the cross, which is his second read. He looked pretty good to me. You can knick-knack and say what you want to say,
Starting point is 00:48:30 but if you look at the quarterbacks that played this weekend, his grade was probably one of the highest grades. Yeah, absolutely. And grade, Trey Lance, I think a lot of people could be on this spot. Trey Lance needed to play for the whole preseason. Why? Because he haven't played enough football for us to see him. So you think he just looks like he hasn't played a lot of football?
Starting point is 00:48:48 He hasn't. Yeah, we agree. Even in college, you go back, you play one year at O State, right? Then you come to the league. How many games have you played? So 416. That's not even a season worth of football. Is that the number, 416?
Starting point is 00:49:03 That's how many passes he's attempted. He's 22 years old. We forgetting that. He was 20 years old. He wasn't even allowed to drink a fucking beer when he came in. Yeah, especially. I was thinking about this the other day. I'm like, God damn, is he ever going to get it? I'm like, oh, let me go back and do my homework. He's a
Starting point is 00:49:20 fucking child. Yeah, he's very young. 416 pass attempts. Is that the number? Since 2016. And that the number that they're asking? Since 2016. Heard he's the oldest quarterback. And then the next thing he said was that he said that Drake May, in like a two-month period. Yeah, through November.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Through November had more than 416 pass attempts. I'm quite sure he's still the youngest quarterback on that list. How old is the – Heard he's 23. I just looked. Sam Darnold just turned 26. That's crazy. He was drafted at like fucking 19.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah, he was drafted real young too. 17. He's been in the league for 10 years. He's lived 100 different lives. And the interesting thing is they chose to draft him at three overall after trading up there with all this information being done. What just happened there? He got muted for a second, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Was that me? Mid-sentence. Oh, Nick. Nick back there was getting his... Hey, Nick worked out. Again? Good boy, Nick. Thanks, thanks.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Sorry about that. I'm a little worried. Where was I headed there when I got muted? We're talking about... When they drafted him. Sam Darnold. Oh, yeah, three. When they drafted Trey Lance.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Oh, yeah. All this information we're going through right now, they knew that. Oh, yeah. They thought they were going to be able to develop. They had no idea, though, that there was going to be a guy at the very end there who just had it all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And it's like for the team that they have, he's got to be the guy. He just has the leadership quality that Jimmy G seemed to have. More experience. Boys are rallying around him. Boys are rallying around him. Boys are rallying around him. Command. He makes every single throw that you're supposed to make in an offense that, like, hey, just make the throw you're supposed to make.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And then they go on that magical run. It's like his story and fairy tale, this Brock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant, this whole thing was getting built. And it's like, how do you even have the Trey Lance story happen at the same time? You can't. He's going to have to get traded, I think. Because they're not caring about watching Trey Lance for the next two preseason games to get reps. They're like, is Sam Darnold going to be our backup if Brock Purdy gets hurt?
Starting point is 00:51:19 Or is Trey Lance going to be our backup if Brock Purdy? That's all they care about. So it's a tough situation, bro, for a guy that has next to no football experience. None. And me personally, they already know who they're going with. We don't need to see what Purdy and Brock can do. We know what they can do. Trey Lance needs to play the whole preseason.
Starting point is 00:51:39 And everybody needs to get a look at him for four quarters, put him out there with the starters, let's see can he run the good the number ones and just get an opinion on them for a whole game that would be shanahan and lynch saying hey here's an audition pretty much for the rest of the nfl to get a chance to see the guy that we traded the future of our franchise for but i don't know if they're going to view it that way i think they're going to say sam darnold needs to get some reps yep he's going to play i wonder about brock they're going to view it that way. I think they're going to say Sam Darnold needs to get some reps. He's going to play. I wonder about Brock. They're talking about Brock being back after that Tommy on surgery early.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Have we seen anything out of Brock Purdy? Shanahan said this morning, he said the only way Brock Purdy is in our starter week one is if he melts in practice. Okay. So it's like, done deal. They've seen enough. It has been hot. It has been hot. It has been hot.
Starting point is 00:52:25 That's going to be hard to follow up what he did last year, though. I think he's only going to get better. Me too. I think here is where he's – Excels. This is where I think he is really, really good. So with more reps. Full offseason with the number ones.
Starting point is 00:52:39 McCaffrey there the whole time. Elijah Mitchell's healthy again. Brandon Aiyuk, excuse me, they're talking about him being the best receiver they have. Remember, wasn't that last year training camp? Ayuk? Bingo. Was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Everywhere. Highlight, highlight, highlight, highlight. This is the guy. I think it was – I don't know who was thrown to him at the time. Maybe Trey. Yeah, it might have been Trey Lance. Trey Lance's favorite target is Ayuk. Jimmy G is training on another field.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Purdy's also a chip-on-the-shoulder guy. He doesn't need any – it's not like he's going to look at last year and be like, oh, I went 7-1. We went to the NFC Championship. I've made it. He still went to Iowa State. They were never that good when he was there. Iowa State. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:20 He bet on himself. He did bet on himself. Not actually, but he bet on himself. Oh, yeah, but that is the Iowa State. That is the same program we're talking about, but then getting picked last week. Iowa State, that is me just shit-talking, okay? Literally in the news.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Having fun. Okay, I didn't make the news. No. I'm not happy about it either. No. And it's not the Cyclone faithful that had these kids do this. No. But it is the reality of your school.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Absolutely. This guy's got a fucking gambling problem. They do. Don't they? They got a whole lot to do in Ames other than gamble on other teams that are in Ames. But when Brock was at Iowa State, they weren't doing that, obviously. His leadership, they're not gambling on games. They're not doing anything like that.
Starting point is 00:53:59 No. That is what they got going on. Well. He was a dog there, though. He beat Iowa, didn't he? No. I mean, come on. Of course he didn't. No. He didn't. But he was a dog there though he beat iowa didn't he no i mean come on of course he didn't no he didn't but he was good i mean iowa state that's the thing i'm not just saying this as like an iowa guy like iowa state has sucked for so long like you have to go back to
Starting point is 00:54:16 like when seneca wallace was there like 20 some years ago like that's the last time they were like actually legit but like they when matt campbell got there and then with Brock Purdy, they were kind of in that discussion of, hey, if they put together a good year, they could compete and maybe go to the Big 12 championship. Now, they never quite made it. I mean, it is what it is. Is he from Iowa? No, he's from Arizona.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Arizona chose Iowa State, or is that the only place they – Well, remember, he was apparently very good because the whole thing with – Alabama know alabama was recruiting him and he went down there and then saving was like hey you're not accurate enough we're not offering you and i don't know how he ended up at uh iowa state but iowa leads the iowa cup 46 to 23 in iowa iowa state football games i do believe is what this website is telling me right now. Congrats to you guys, bro. Let's go. But the current win streak, if you look down there at the bottom, the Cyclones. What have you done for me lately?
Starting point is 00:55:10 Win. Wow. Win, win. Sure. Win, win, win. Well, guess what? We got them week two this year, so we'll find out very early who's got that win streak going into next year.
Starting point is 00:55:18 They're going to be shorthanded. They are going to be. Oh, because all the guys that were gambling? Yeah. My quarterback being one of them. And they were gambling. And running back. Brock was there. And they were gambling. And running back. And D-lineman, I think.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And the current starter was Brock's backup when he was betting. Is this the guy that... Yeah, because he bet on Brock. That's how good Brock is. That's right. And we need to... That's one of his... This is a good pivot point out of here. Brock's leadership is that behind the scenes, everybody believes in him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:43 You know, that's a big deal. Strongly. Like, Kittle and them talked about, like, there was no – as soon as he – it was like, hey, here's a guy. This guy has the aura of being a guy. So much of that aura is actually kind of problematic, what we're learning here. Yeah. Because that backup quarterback had one interaction with Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It was like, I'm betting everything I got. This guy's unbelievable. He believes too much. How do I bet like, I'm betting everything I got. This guy is unbelievable. I believe too much. How do I bet on this guy? His mom and dad. Is this guy? I thought I was a good football player. I'm a college football player.
Starting point is 00:56:12 People are built fucking different, guys. I want to bet all my money on this guy. That's potentially when it started. So I guess it's a gift and a curse to have a guy like Brock Purdy. And the Niners certainly got him. If he doesn't melt, he'll be the starter day one. Let's hope that doesn't take place. Let's get to a break. Hour two will be on the
Starting point is 00:56:29 other side with A.J. Hawk, fresh off of a charity golf outing. He was at Brady Quinn's golf outing yesterday. Did he get all boozed up and crash a golf cart? For sure. Do we have that photo? We'll have it. We will. Do we have the other photo he sent to the group this morning, too?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Oh, yeah. He was talking about an exoneration. He is so jacked up. Yeah. He's rocked up, too, probably. Yeah, he's super rocked up. Both. Which the guy was.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Well, yes, he's been working out. Yeah. That guy's body fat percentage might be like 2%. Yeah. Well, he measured it every Friday, so he can probably tell us. He does with the general Bob Carpenter. That's right. I wonder who's...
Starting point is 00:57:06 He eats glass. What's that? He eats glass. He shouldn't have no fat. Yeah, he actually eats something worse than glass because glass has like a little sandy taste. Yeah, right. Crunch.
Starting point is 00:57:15 You know what I mean? He just eats... Give me the blandest chicken you got and give me the blandest ass rice you got. Exactly. You know, some rice has a little bit of flavor. I don't want that rice. No, never.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Give me the shit with no flavor. That's Exactly. You know, some rice has a little bit of flavor. I don't want that rice. No, never. Give me the shit with no flavor. Please. You know the base for your meals that you put stuff on top of to have flavor? Don't put the flavor stuff on. No. None of that. Just the base. Brown rice.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And then whenever you see some chicken that looks like the most boring fucking chicken walking around the yard? I'll take it. Give me that one. Right now. The dark meat a little bit? No. What the hell did you just say?
Starting point is 00:57:46 Dry. No. In Ohio? Dry as grass you could find. Yeah. It's going to be too dry. You might check on it. I'll have a water.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Thanks. Boil it, please. He'll be joining us on the other side. Okay. Guy drank his own urine. 12 years. He did. Committed.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Every morning, big cup. What did he say? I'm going to actually have to do that now. Live my gimmick. You know what he said? He's definitely tried it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:10 We were at a dinner table not too long ago, and we did talk to somebody who was openly admitting to drinking air and urine for a portion. What? I think semen got mixed in there, yeah. What? That's just, I believe that's what he said. Like they peed too soon after
Starting point is 00:58:29 jerkhead or concoction. I think he was thinking like salt. You put sugar in or Splenda or something. He's talking about adding that. That was not talking about. What he was doing there was making a comedic to make the story a little bit easier. Nope, that's exactly what I heard.
Starting point is 00:58:46 He said, I'd shoot some of my goo into the urine, and then I'd mix it up with like a spoon. Who was this? He did not hear that. Right now. There's a chance, though, that the guy that was saying this was so jocked that we actually thought to ourselves, well, that's the trick. Yeah, it makes sense. Because we see on the Instagram Explored, all these dudes just like strapped. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I'm like, what the fuck? Are these guys in the same world I'm in? Like, do they not have pizza as an option ever? Absolutely not. Do they not? What do they do? Turns out, we were asking this guy all the questions because he looked like an Instagram explore page guy.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yep. And he was answering all. He, not what Connor said. No. That's what he told me. But he did do a drinking urine phase, I believe. He said it tasted like flat Mountain Dew. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:59:29 But he also said something that was putting back in his body. He could feel this, that. He just didn't stick with it. AJ was in that conversation as well. AJ truly was selling that he had never done it. Right. You know, like very straight. This is right after the ESPYs.
Starting point is 00:59:41 This is one day after the ESPYs. So pretty fresh in a lot of things. And AJ was very sure that he's never done it. I should try though. Yeah, for the whole time though, he kept selling that gimmick. It wasn't like a moment where he was like, I have done it. So I
Starting point is 00:59:55 don't think he's ever actually drank his own urine. So I lied. I got misinformation. I don't know. Fake this. Might be true though. Well, most of the things you've been saying today, not true. That's not true. Yeah. What you just said isn't true.
Starting point is 01:00:11 No, what you said. What I said that's not true is about what you said. You want to do politics? No, I'm a better human than you are. I'm a better human than you are. No, you are. Don't even have to consider it for a second. No, you put hairspray in your hair right there.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I see it. You fucking kill any ozone. That's why the global boiling is happening. No, I used mousse, mousse, as they call it, in my hair today. And, yeah, I didn't use any hairspray. Oh, where's mousse from? Canada? What'd you do?
Starting point is 01:00:32 Kill them? Geez. No, mousse. I'm a better human than you. You want to take out animals? Copita comes in this whole thing. Don't worry. I don't kill the animals, okay?
Starting point is 01:00:39 Mousse, I believe, is similar to horse glue. They kill the animal, but it's still used for a purpose again. I close my eyes whenever they do that at racetracks. You open your eyes. That's why I'm a better human than you. Well, I want to take it in because I want to respect the horses and what they have to go through. That's why I'm a better human than you are.
Starting point is 01:00:53 You turn a blind eye. I don't turn a blind eye to terrible things going on. No, you're riding those horses. I'm looking at those horses. That's the difference. I'm a better human than you are. No, I'm trying to save the horses, so that makes me a better human than you are. No, you're not saving any of those horses.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Then how come I can stand there and support them after death and buy their moose and glue? I'm a better human than you are. I disagree. I'm a better human than you are. That's politics, baby. We did it again. We did it again. Yep.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Good politics talk. It is. That's around the corner. Yeah, next year. Pumped. I can't wait for these humans to see our politics talk whenever they have to watch us. I love it. Just openly mocking everything
Starting point is 01:01:30 they live and die for. I'm a better human than you. I'm a better human than you. That is literally what politics is. For a while. Right? Yeah. We want to do this because save world. Well, we want to do this because save world. Well, we want to do this
Starting point is 01:01:47 because save world. Those are two different worlds. Same world. Politics. That's right. A.J. Hawk, who loves former president, who seemingly just got
Starting point is 01:01:58 exonerated. Yeah. That'd be President Underwood. That's right. From House of Cards. Can't wait to get his entire thoughts on that. Kevin Spacey, I guess, completely innocent. Yeah, which.
Starting point is 01:02:09 That's upset of the year. Oh, yeah. That's upset of the century, maybe. Yeah. Well. I do wonder how this, what's that? Just say some of the Frank Underwood tactics, you know, came into play with, I think, real life Spacey. All right, let's take a break.
Starting point is 01:02:25 That's just what I've seen. That's just what I've seen. That's just what I've seen. The internet said that? Yes, about some of the witnesses. What? Jeez Louise. I'm sure AJ will have all the information. We would have heard about it.
Starting point is 01:02:35 We also got to talk about all the sports that are taking place. Michael Orr. Boy. Yikes. I don't like what's going on here. That's going to get real ugly. Yeah. That's going to get real loud, real ugly.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Don't like negativity in anybody's lives. Obviously, Michael Orr has experienced and felt that. That's why he went into the book. I played on the same senior bowl team as Michael Orr. Every time we played against Michael Orr, I had a conversation with Michael Orr. I'm pulling for Michael Orr, just like the rest of the world. That's right. We're all on Michael Orr's side.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Absolutely. A lot of people going after Sandra Bullock. I don't think Sandra Bullock knew it was all bullshit. I don't think she did either. Those guys made a lot of money off that movie. Yeah. A lot of money. It was a great movie.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Won an Oscar. Very popular movie. How in the hell did he not know nothing? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how it worked out. Do I have to read the book? We're going to have to read the book? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Uh-huh. We're on Michael Horst's side, though. Yes, we are. Until further notice. Yeah. Probably forever. Yeah. Unless.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I don't know why the Chrisleys did that to him. So they got another show coming out, too. What? From jail? I don't know if there's gonna be any jail visits,
Starting point is 01:03:36 but I do believe. Oh, so it's the kids? Yes. Yeah, it's the kids, and I assume Todd's popping in from jail. Yeah. I assume.
Starting point is 01:03:43 20 to life. I wonder how he's doing. He's. We don't. I want to judge. Let's get to a break. We'll be back on 20 to life. I wonder how he's doing. He's, we don't, I don't want to judge. Let's get to a break. We'll be back on the other side. I think he's probably doing okay.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yeah. No to soup. He's a hustler. Yeah, he's a worker. Playing tennis every day. Steak dinners at night. Nah. Playing catch with Ryan Leaf in there.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Exactly. Yep. What? So small. That's what he said. Yeah. Remember when Ryan Leaf said they asked him to play all-time quarterback's what he said. Yeah. Remember when Ryan Leaf said they asked him to play all-time quarterback or something like that? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:08 And Miami, I thought, was like, did you think to yourself, this is going to be the easiest stint of all time? Right. And he got upset about it. He said he didn't do it anymore. Yeah. Well, Chrisley's playing quarterback now. Him and Harry Ruggs have one of the greatest connections in the history of the team. Three years?
Starting point is 01:04:21 Three years? Three to ten. Yeah. Sad stuff. Let's not do illegal stuff. That's coming from a guy who has a mugshot. Me too. Another guy has a mugshot. We all
Starting point is 01:04:33 fuck up. Let's move on. Let's not make the big mistakes though. That's right. Let's get back to the other side of football talk. Tell me! And that is a former Notre Dame quarterback and NFL quarterback, the ever-handsome Brady Quinn. He hosted a golf tournament just yesterday
Starting point is 01:04:51 that our guest who will be joining us in moments was at. And that is also the person who's going to be joining us with a golf cart in a pond after getting so boozed up he crashed it and drowned it. The talk state was here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys' Tone Diggs is here.
Starting point is 01:05:09 14-year NFL vet Pac-Man Jones is live in the Thunderdome. And joining us now is this man's brother-in-law. He's also the current president of the state of Ohio. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, COVID survivor, father of 10, A.J. Hall. Yeah! A.J.!
Starting point is 01:05:29 Yes, it's a good picture, Brady. He's insanely handsome. Yeah. Strikingly. You know what I mean? It's a little bit uncomfortable that this dude has looked like this seemingly for his entire life, just out of stone, chiseled, jawed.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Great touch of gray now, too. Great, great. He's matured very well. Classy. Good for him, Brady Quinn. He has matured very well. Absolutely. He has matured in an incredible fashion. Magnificent, some would say. Magnificent maturity of your face is what
Starting point is 01:05:58 some people say about this guy. Was this from yesterday? He was wearing this shirt. How'd the tournament go? Did you crash any golf carts? Because you got too boozed up. No,? Did you crash any golf carts because you got too boozed up? No, I did not crash any golf carts. Chopper almost crashed a golf cart with Oz, who was the other gentleman smoking a cig in that picture. He was in the cart that went down 12 years ago.
Starting point is 01:06:15 So nothing was crashed. That was from last year, though. We had some elements yesterday. We started with some heavy rain through the first nine holes, and then it cleared up a bit, and it was nice. Okay. How'd you play? Did you play pretty good?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Did you win? Was there a winner? I mean, it's a scramble, so I played with my other brother, Ryan, and then Pistol, my dad. None of us, I would say, are absolute sharks on the golf course. We're not scratch golfers by any means, but Brady gave us a ringer. This kid, Davis, was an absolute stud scratch golfer. We shot like 21 under.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Of course we didn't win because someone turns in like a 30 under none of us are good none of us are scratch golfers this dude davis the legit did not hit a bad shot he didn't hit a 21 under huh yeah we all got we all made putts we all you know could use some of my drives obviously yeah so 18 of them yeah we're not good golfers bro yeah we're playing on uh every single hole is a 370 yard par four good news i can actually drive to the fringe davis are you good around the green yeah perfect that's how we're technically 2100 did not win no i mean it which is un unbelievable i don't know what guys are who knows what they're putting on oh ohio yeah it's in ohio yeah same thing within pittsburgh
Starting point is 01:07:23 we heard there were some people this past weekend that were maybe using the other side of the pencil. Whoa. That Phil's thing, right? Someone was cheating? At the Phil Maynes Family Classic. Yeah, there was allegedly some people taking a little eraser and having a little, wait, didn't we?
Starting point is 01:07:40 A lot of that I heard. I would say. Because those elements were tough out there. They were brutal. I think Nick said it. We had two of that I heard. Those elements were tough out there. They were brutal. I think Nick said it. We had two of the hardest things. Unbelievable heat. Scorching hot and then terrible rain.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Those are the two worst things you can have. A lot of rain coming, AJ. It feels like this summer of boil is getting cooled off right now. Doesn't it? It sounds like Ohio had a bunch yesterday. Is that a good thing? Do we need that rain to simmer us down a little bit? Well, there's a lot of reasons, you know, because rain makes corn, and corn makes whiskey,
Starting point is 01:08:16 and whiskey makes my baby. A little bit of whiskey. We always need rain. Remember? Remember? I do remember. You used to always sing that song. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Who sings that? Luke Bryan. What do we even want? You are disgusting. It is tough. It's tough to distinguish, especially when it comes to country songs. It is tough to know who sings what. Oh, okay. Which generic white is singing what?
Starting point is 01:08:39 Is that what you're saying? Act like I'm white. Yeah, act like I'm white. They all put ball caps on. We get it. Okay, we hear what you're saying. Not what I'm saying. Yeah, it is. Not what I'm lying. Yeah, act like I'm lying. Oh, they all put ball caps on. We get it. Yeah, okay. Okay, we hear what you're saying, AJ. Not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Yeah, it is. Not what I'm saying. Oh, these guys all put their little ball caps on. I said there's a lot of hits out there. Oh, they're super handsome. They got accents. Oh, sorry, AJ. Broken tats and beard.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Sorry, AJ. Geez, there's Zach Brown, Zach Bine. Yeah. There's a couple different. Luke Bryan. Baldass Morgan Wallen. Yep. That was weird. geez there's zach bryan zach bryan yeah there's a couple different luke bryan bald-ass morgan wallen yeah you know and then there's og blake shelton still selling out arenas whenever he wants to tim mcgrath kicking the fucking shit out of people in the eastern stands yep who fucking said that thought we're fucking singing yeah all right, that's what I thought. Back down.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Friday night lights were on Sunday. I want to leave. He beat the fuck out of his kid, man. Who was, what's her name? Miranda was not happy people were taking photos at her concert. Listen, you come to my concert, don't fucking tell anybody. I got about enough for her. Okay, yeah, exactly. Tell me.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Whoa, what's wrong, Diggs? What'd she do? What was that, CMA Fest this year? She sang like fucking six times, okay? You had your time. Get out. We're talking about Miranda Lambert, right? Yeah. Give me Blake.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Internet rumors, the things that happened with Blake and Miranda. We're not diving into all that. We don't need to dive into music stuff. Team Blake. Nonetheless, certainly. That's not even... I do not know the backstory there. Me neither. I did, actually.
Starting point is 01:10:05 I heard the rumors, but certainly wasn't going to talk about it. But the whole pictures thing and then people throwing stuff at people's stuff, I think a lot of the people that are up on stage are on high guard right now about, like, anything that is potentially – like, hey, remember, this is my job. There's people that are thinking that. That Miranda Lambert one was tough, though. That was a tough one to spin. I don't she's had a bad night though and everybody's gonna yeah
Starting point is 01:10:28 right when was cardi b got hit with the uh drink and she threw the mic yeah bingo i think she did it again she did it twice yeah i think she's saying weekend that's pretty cool little thing like hey what are you gonna be known for i fucking throw this thing well how do you sing i don't anymore yeah that's the way this goes and it hurts hurts. Yeah. If you're going to do that, the whole crowd is going to pay for it. You know, one person jumps offside. We're all running. Exactly. One person throws a drink.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Guess what? This microphone doesn't. Fuck you. Fuck you. All right. We don't need that back. I'm not doing anything. I'm out of here.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Good there, Connor. This kid missed the desk. No, I hit the desk. It didn't land there. Oh, great throw. Great throw. Buckets. So, what we're saying is, let's all be responsible in public.
Starting point is 01:11:13 That's right. And appreciate that you have a crowd. Yeah. That people, you know what I mean? Speaking of crowd, AJ was announced yesterday. Not our start date on ESPN. That's going to be announced relatively soon, though. Okay. Okay, awesome. That decision has been made.PN. That's going to be announced relatively soon, though. Okay, awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:26 That decision has been made. Whoa. That's a big one. Let's go. We tried to record a couple commercials for this. Yeah, we did try. Wait, wait, wait. What happened? I don't know if we won.
Starting point is 01:11:41 They don't have much. No offense to the people that are very good at what they do in places, but I think we kind of save all that stuff. I don't know. We tried to. You know, we tried to. We tried to do. A commercial to run on
Starting point is 01:11:57 ESPN? Bro, 30 seconds? I mean, how are we supposed to explain what's about to happen in 30 seconds? I don't know. That's old school, I guess. That's what TV is, 30-second ad spots or whatever. It was a tough thing for us to figure out, I'm going to say. That was a tough task. But that announcement's coming soon.
Starting point is 01:12:14 And when you see our video, no, really, really, I mean, too much effort was put into it. A lot of takes. Too much effort was put into it for what it was. And that's just how it's going to be for a bit. But when that gets announced, it'll be awesome. And obviously, we will be live on ESPN by the time
Starting point is 01:12:32 we get to week two of college football, where we will be live, this particular program, on Friday, live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. AJ, for the Texas Alabama. I did hear about that. It's a nice place for college football huh it should be a good time bro I mean yeah I've never been there
Starting point is 01:12:49 I'm a little bit worried I was a little bit worried about us doing our first like live show streamed with crowd in a place that I don't think any of our statistics tell us no good spot for us no clue what about per capita? I don't think so. I do not know. I was a little bit worried. I was a little bit worried. Alabama's not high up on the list of states that are listening to this particular program on YouTube and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:13:16 So, you know, as it kind of added up, it was like, I do not want us to be sitting out in front of, you know, that would be very difficult. Yeah, 15. 15 people, six people. I mean, that is tough. If we say, hey, we're going to be sitting out in front of, you know, that would be very difficult. Yeah, 15. 15 people, six people. I mean, that is tough. If we say, hey, we're going to be there and there's nobody, that's a tough thing.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yes. That would probably have me never do another live show. I've been with me a long time. That probably is a medium. All right, fuck, never doing that again. Never doing that again. But we will be simulcasting a la the college football playoff and the national championship at the Texas-Alabama game
Starting point is 01:13:49 Saturday night in Tuscaloosa as well. So we'll be there Friday for our show. Then Saturday night we'll be Texas-Alabama on the sideline, I believe, with microphones again. And then hopefully game day. I genuinely do not know. And Kirk Herbstreet, he said, feels like probably, but he doesn't know either. Game day might be there as well.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Should be a massive, massive weekend down there, and we cannot wait to kick it off on Friday, AJ. I mean, what other games are going on where game day would go somewhere else? Iowa State. Oh, that's true, Ty. That's true. Penn State, West Virginia. True.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Duquesne, West Virginia. That's week three. And it's West Virginia, Duquesne, West Virginia. That's week three. And it's West Virginia, Duquesne would be that week. That's going to be a close one. I think there's another one. There's a big one. Because I saw a couple people respond to the video. Because Kirk Herbstreit saying yesterday,
Starting point is 01:14:42 feels like that's probably where game day is going to be as well. Made its way around the college football conversation. And I think I saw one particular game other people were talking about on a very regular basis that could potentially derail it going there. But Texas with Quinn Ewers, Arch Manning's on the team too. Bama trying to establish a QB. Feels like that would be a game regardless if ESPN had it or another game had it,
Starting point is 01:15:09 which I think a lot of people kind of blow out of proportion there too. Everybody thinks just because the way rights have kind of gone with college football to different places and what ESPN – although ESPN has bid, I think, on – ESPN has tried to be in, I think, on a lot. What they ended up with was the SEC package from CBS. And a lot of people were like, oh, so that's what game day is going to be. Everything I've been told from people
Starting point is 01:15:32 that know game day a lot better than I do, it's like, nah, game day is always going to be like, whatever the biggest fucking game is, let's go to the biggest fucking game. Doesn't matter. We'll be very appreciative if it's a lot easier i think if like another like however that whole thing works out but i like to hear that yeah you know
Starting point is 01:15:51 because that's like the world changes that would be like a big corpo decision that would get made and make sense why are we bringing our hype train to a game that we're not even going to reap the benefits from right that makes no sense like business-wise if you just look at it from this to this. But from what I've been told, it's like, we don't care. College football is... We celebrate college football. I love that. I'm a big fan of that.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I think that was really good to hear whenever we were in the entire process of figuring out where the show was going to go. No bias. It is what it is. Game Day is the biggest show in town on Saturdays. It doesn't matter what other networks are popping up. Hey, it's a cool thing. This is the first thing.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Every school wants that. Yeah, legit. Every school wants game day to come. And they all show up and show out for game day. Because they don't get to go everywhere, you know what I mean? So I think it would be really dope if they can, you know what I mean? Keep going to the big game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I think so, too. And showcase is a thing. I mean, last year we were in Jackson, Mississippi. Then we're in Montana. Yeah, Montana. You know, like listening to the people that have been around the show the longest, they're like, these are the ones that you'll remember. Like these are, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:17:02 It's like a cool. Do they ever go places, though, where the game is not carried on ES not carried on espn yeah yeah yeah that's what i was literally just saying they do that actually okay yeah like my first game ohio state michigan uh yeah ohio state michigan we went down to texas my first week texas was playing on fox yeah yep i think it was texas bama texas yeah it was bama texas i think that was on fox that was like the first week i was on the show last year so So it is a very – it happens. That doesn't seem to make financial sense, but it's good they do it. I'm glad they do it.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Yeah, that's what I said. Like whenever they mentioned that, I was like, that's thinking like – that's thinking with content in mind. Yes. As opposed to just numbers in mind, which a lot of people you talk to in this game these days, only talking about numbers, this only helps why are we doing that and that's a lot of people made a lot of money doing things that way but we're a big like let's just make good
Starting point is 01:17:52 shit yeah and then everything else you know what i mean i care about that more than anything so to hear them kind of process that and talk about that i was like i like where your head's at because i think that'll trickle into other decisions yeah that are being made as well you know like that's a pretty that's a pretty big deal i think yeah it should i mean you would think like it wouldn't even be a question like yeah hey we're only going to espn games that we're doing like you would think but that's awesome that they don't it really is i never i i guess i never really thought about it too much i know kirk would sometimes fly from game day to go do other games a lot. It's not always where he's doing the game, but yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Well, just also think about like have to take an entire truck there, even though you would have trucks at another place already, because you've got to call that game. Right, yeah. So like the production truck, the stage, the travel, the trucks, everything. Plus getting a space. Like it's not your game. So like the network that has your game has access and rights to a lot of stuff
Starting point is 01:18:48 because they've got to get shots for the game. So now you've also got to find a spot that is game day worthy. It's like the amount of work that goes into just setting up one game, let alone at another. But they said we'll continue to do it. I'm like, hell yeah. All right. Hey, I love everything about it, man.
Starting point is 01:19:04 And that's what's crazy too too, is some of the spots that you guys went to last year, they've never gone. Like the Montana, Montana State, I'm not sure. That was crazy. Kansas, getting that stuff to those places is absurd. Shout out Tommy, the truck driver, and the boys and ladies over there.
Starting point is 01:19:20 App State. Getting to App State in one of those big-ass trucks and hauling all that equipment, that's impossible. I got so car sick getting from airport to App State in one of those big ass trucks and hauling all that equipment that's impossible I got so car sick getting from airport to App State going up the mountain just going up man beautiful place though beautiful scenery
Starting point is 01:19:36 worth the view but getting there is a thing I don't know what fan base was trying to push their narrative there's not another game do we want to we don't have the information but this is like one of those things where people on the internet just break news that they assume is going to happen and then it probably ends up coming right and they had the news all along but really it was just a guess prediction yeah right just say per sources and then you're good you can say anything after you
Starting point is 01:20:04 say that it's like with all due respect. I think with all due respect is done having any weight at all. I think people get pissed off whenever they say that. They should. It's still been played for me. Sources, though, potentially assuming. Yep. Alluding to. With all due respect. Game day
Starting point is 01:20:20 probably going to be Texas, Alabama. You would assume. Yeah, there you go. Could you imagine maybe if something happens week one, two? We're not saying that. No. We're just saying you start piecing these dots together. Exactly. And then our show is going to be there in the summer.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Oh, let's go. Here we go. That scared me a little bit. But because all the data and analytics say this is not the right move, but I'm appreciative of whoever makes the trip. What a good time. Imagine we have a good amount of people there. Yeah, we will.
Starting point is 01:20:52 That Friday show is going to be stupid. Could you imagine if Quinn Ewers might not play and we get to watch Arch Manning's first game ever as a collegiate athlete? His trading cards are going for like $100,000. $1.5 million. one yeah whatever the hell it was good for him dude yeah beast hey what do you what do you got for your uncles uh who knows who could that be what if it was peyton probably gary v what if it was what if it was peyton or
Starting point is 01:21:18 archie like hey this is how we got to build the value it's like jay-z allegedly for his artists he used to like buy however many albums so they automatically get to platinum or whatever yeah so that everybody thinks that the album is good like it was a form of marketing by spending your own money on your own albums so that whenever people heard that it got to a certain point it was like oh this got to be good so then everybody else would kind of buy it. Not a bad play. Not a bad play there. That's good business.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Speaking of good business, Dalvin Cook has signed a one-year deal with the New York Jets, A.J. Hawk. Aaron Rodgers gets another weapon. Brees Hall cleared off the PUP list today. Back at practice. Looks good. Striding out. Salah was happy to see him. He was incredible last year whenever he was healthy for the first half of the season or so. He was a rookie.
Starting point is 01:22:06 We should expect that he's going to be great again. And what does the addition of Dalvin Cook do for the New York Jets in your eyes, A.J. Hulk? Think of just all the different I'd put both these guys in there. I'd have a package where they're both in there at the same time together. Maybe both in the backfield. Let's motion one out.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Put them in the slot. Do this. I mean, look how good Dalvin Cook is, obviously catching the ball and finding a way to make people miss and run away from the whole defense. So him and Brees Hall together, even if their O-line takes a little bit to kind of gel and get together and figure everything out, I think these two guys absolutely buy him some time. AJ, I mentioned this in the first hour. If they had Dalvin Cook and Brees Hall, and we're assuming Brees Hall
Starting point is 01:22:43 is going to be as good as his advertising as he was last year, and we're assuming that Dalvin Cook will be able to be as good as he was just last year, even with a marginal quarterback. No offense. You would assume that some offensive coordinator could figure out how to be successful with those two great running backs. Like it might not be what everybody else in the NFL is doing, but somehow you should be able to figure out how to be efficient and good
Starting point is 01:23:07 with those two talented guys on the field at the same time. Then you add in this fucking four-time MVP in there. You know, and then Garrett on the outside, obviously you guys know him out of Ohio State. We watch Hard Knocks. There's a new episode tonight, but you see the highlights on the whole thing. He looks like he's going to be a dude. Then you see Lazard. He looks like he's going to be a dude. Then you see Lazard.
Starting point is 01:23:25 He looks like a fucking defensive end out there. Mecole Hartman. I completely forgot about Mecole Hartman. Hey, there's a real... Right? You're right. Without Aaron Rodgers on the roster, you'd be like, man, they have some studs
Starting point is 01:23:41 all over the place. We're not even talking about the defense that much, and their defense can be great this year. They really could. And I think they'll feed off the offense, too. It'll make them – can you imagine the defense and the Jets knowing – let's say the first series, the first game, A-Rod just drives him down. Boom, boom, score. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Defense gets a turnover. They jump out to an early lead. I know they're playing Buffalo week one. It's going to be tough. But I just think their defense will feed off of what Aaron brings to that offense. I think offense will feed as well. Could you imagine getting a short field? Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:24:09 You get a short field. Like, okay, defense backs them up. They got a punt. They're getting the ball at the 45. Aaron Rodgers is getting the ball at the 45. What? Going in with all those. Like, that's good.
Starting point is 01:24:19 You know what I mean? I like the fact that Joe Douglas, too, notices this and realizes, like, hey, because $8.6 million, I don't know what we all thought he was going to get paid. I guess there's probably a contingency of people that say more. Allegedly, the Vikings offered him $7 million, so it's $1.6 million more than what the Vikings offered. But getting Dalvin for $8.6 million, what a move. I think it's a good deal for Dalvin at this stage of the calendar.
Starting point is 01:24:44 I think it's a good deal for the Jets this stage of the calendar. I think it's a good deal for the Jets. This feels like a win-win-win pack. And it shows Dalvin want to win. We already know he's getting $2 million from the Vikings from when they released him. So he already getting that money this year. So go somewhere where you can win. He said he wanted to win.
Starting point is 01:24:59 He went on his tour, and I think this is the place where he think he can win. What was his trainer talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you remember his trainer. Leverage. Just leverage, right? Just leverage.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Yep. For who? For Dalvin. Say now you never know. You got to come to the table. If you want him to come to New York, you got to pay us more. Oh, see, I thought the leverage would have been lost on their side because the Jets were like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:25:21 Why is this? We just gave you a full. And then we got your. Well, and didn't the agent give him a nice little pee-pee whack after he said that? Like, hey, shut up. We're not doing this. This is my domain. They deleted that. And then Gumpy got him in trouble because Gumpy was like...
Starting point is 01:25:35 It was on the internet. I saw it. My name's Gumpy. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is back in a city in which he dominated as a football player. This time he's not playing. No, no, he's coaching. Ladies and gentlemen, the brand-new head coach of the Houston Texans,
Starting point is 01:25:51 an absolute legend, D'Amico Ryan. Yeah! What's up, guys? What's up, coach? Hey, is that how friends call you coach now? Like immediately upon going to the coaching level, you just become coach to everybody? Or how should I refer to you, coach? Instantly. Everybody calls me coach now like immediately upon going to the coaching level you just become coach to everybody or how should i refer to you coach instantly everybody calls me coach now okay i love that
Starting point is 01:26:09 coach how are the vibes down there in h town obviously whenever you guys make the moves that you made on draft night and in the off season for free agency there seems to be a nice positive refreshing vibe around the houston texans in fan base. Where are you at within the building, establishing culture, all of that shit, Coach? Yeah, I mean, first off, man, the city is excited. They're fired up. We're fired up, right, to be here in Houston. Family will be back in Houston, so we're pumped.
Starting point is 01:26:39 The building is excited. Like, you feel the energy. Every day I come into the building, from the first day that I was hired until now. It's just continued to be great energy from everyone in the organization. And we're just continuing to feed off of that. Players are picking up their energy, intensity and practice. And it's definitely headed in the right way. Hell, yeah. Go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I know you've been you've been coaching for a little while now. First time becoming a head coach. Is it what you expected? I guess now that you're the guy leading the charge, like, is this what you thought it would be? Hey, you always have an idea of how things are going to go. I think for the most part, things have been ran fairly smoothly. I think it all starts with, you know, the GM having Nick Casario on my side
Starting point is 01:27:19 and being able to work in tandem with him. That's really been a huge help for me, right? Wouldn't have wanted to go anywhere else, right, to have a guy with the experience that Nick has had. It's really provided me a lot of comfort in handling this position. And also the coaching staff that I have, I have surrounded myself with awesome guys, good guys to work with. It's going well. I think the one thing from the coaching aspect that you don't really feel from the coordinator level or coaching level is and having to do a lot of administrative things like scheduling and probably doing a lot more interviews than I had to do before so it's all of those things when I just want to tell these guys just let me go coach football and you guys figure out that schedule
Starting point is 01:28:00 stuff and I'll get back to that later okay Okay. So let's talk about that because obviously you probably don't have to do a lot of shit like this. So, Hey, we appreciate your time. Appreciate your time coach. I know there's a lot of other stuff that you're going to have to do and you'll be judged upon whether or not your team is able to pull it off or
Starting point is 01:28:16 not. Is it, is it as exigent as everybody makes it out to be coaching in the NFL, just head coaching in the NFL as demanding attention-wise as you could have expected? Is there any preparation that anybody could have told you to be ready for this particular job? Or is it just once you get dropped in there, it's a little bit of a baptism by fire?
Starting point is 01:28:36 It's definitely baptism by fire. No one can prepare you for all the things that come across my desk like each and every day. Like every day is different, which is exciting. That's the exciting part of it. Each day is never the same day. There's never a dull moment. Like there's always the grind and the work that goes in the ball.
Starting point is 01:28:54 But always you have to be on your toes and you have to be on point. I was talking to Coach Mike McDaniels the other day. It's just like, man, you always have to be on point and on point and ready to go for any and everything possible that may come across your desk. You're coming out of that incredible coaching tree up there in San Francisco, obviously, and there's been a lot of success out of that. And the Shanahan kind of tree is blossoming quickly all across and around the NFL. What have you been able to take away from the Niners organization?
Starting point is 01:29:22 Or what have you been able to take away from being the coordinator for the Niners into the Houston building and how much have you been able to figure out your own lane as well? I think the first thing I think I take from the San Francisco way is and it was a proven model that we had a lot of success there right and we played and deep into the playoffs multiple years there. We were able to be fortunate enough to go to one Super Bowl. So I've seen what it looks like, what a championship culture looks like and how you build it. When I first started in San Francisco, we started off 0-9 and to see how we improve year after year and to see where that team is now
Starting point is 01:30:02 and how you go through the draft process. How do you acquire talent? Like, man, I learned so many things from John and from Kyle and just how to build it the right way. So I was happy to have, you know, be in an organization that started off rough and it was a new regime and it started off rough, but to see it change in two, three years, to see everything change and see the success they're having. And that's what I'm looking to implement here. Not, not an 0-9 start for sure,
Starting point is 01:30:30 but definitely looking to implement just the winning way. Like, how do you practice? Like, that's one thing that we harped on in San Francisco is like deliberate practice every day. Every rep is full speed. It's all game reps. So when you get into the game, you're not worried about turning it up or, man, we got to get hype for the game. Like in San Fran, those practices were competitive each and every day. And we got into a game,
Starting point is 01:30:57 some games we were able to dominate our opponent just because of our preparation. That's a very veteran mindset though. You know, like that is, I think as you get older, you know, there's some older guys that take G days every day and they're on the golf cart. I get it. It depends on what places allow and what they don't allow and what each person potentially needs.
Starting point is 01:31:14 But as you get older, there's practice reps seemingly become just as important as the game reps to the older guys that can figure it out. You've got a lot of young guys, especially at big time positions. How have the rookies been? Obviously you guys make that trade to go up for number three as well. So. You got a lot of young guys, especially at big time positions. How have the rookies been? Obviously, you guys make that trade to go up for number three as well.
Starting point is 01:31:29 So you got a rook on the offensive side that's going to lead things, CJ. And then obviously, Will, on the other side, how are the young guys? And what do you think you need to see out of them this year? A lot, feels like, right? I mean, a lot of pressure on the young guys.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Yeah, with the young guys, man, they've been as advertised. Like, it was important for us to get, you to get both of those guys, and we got them. Will and CJ, they've been everything we could have asked for, just the mindset that these guys have. They want to be great, right? And it starts there. For a player to be great, you have to actually want it, and you have to want to put the work in to do it. And that's what you see from Will, CJ. Like, their work ethic is, man, it's off the charts. So I'm very proud of the way these guys work. And with that mindset, they're only going to improve
Starting point is 01:32:13 and continue to grow and get better. Young guys coming in, we know it takes time. And those guys, well, they'll fit in just fine. I'm happy to have both of them. CJ threw that pick. Yeah, bad one. It's a bust. See you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:28 That's what I read on the internet. I don't know if you got time for the internet these days as a head coach of an NFL team. We'll keep you updated. CJ ain't going to be able to do it. Threw a pick. Man. Guess the quarterback never thrown a pick before.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Not her first preseason game ever against New England. Bill Belichick. Yeah, the whole thing is interesting. But I like the way CJ seemed to be very comfortable. And this sounds like such a little thing, but I know you guys are all looking at it too. Breaking the huddle, the poise. There was no illegal shifts or snaps before somebody got ready.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Looked like a professional. And then as the game continues to slow down we're excited to watch him i guess you would be more pumped to watch him evolve as well because you know he's your your fucking quarterback your defensive guy though he's offensive guy what's your relationship like is that interesting or no you you try to build up with him how's it go oh yeah i build i'm not i'm not a defensive guy anymore am i hell yeah it's all hey head coach man i'm an offensive guy when we're on offense and i'm defense when we're on defense so that's how i rock and i told the guys that yesterday like i don't want to build a culture where it's offense defense split like hey i started my career my football career on the offense
Starting point is 01:33:41 and you want to know the position? Yeah. Center. Yeah. It's really nice. Hey, that's good leverage. You know what I mean? That's good leverage. Those big boys are going to be happy to hear that, though. Immediately, the offensive lineman goes,
Starting point is 01:33:54 oh, this guy knows how fucking miserable we are. He truly gets it, you know, not trying to ruin him. I love that, though. It sounds like the transition is going seemingly over there for you. Yeah, it's going really well, man. I have a really good relationship with the offensive side, with CJ, with Davis, all the quarterbacks. Make sure I communicate with those guys, talking to them in practice.
Starting point is 01:34:14 So it's making sure I'm the head coach and making sure that they understand that it's not just, oh, he's a defensive head coach. That's what I want to get out of their minds and let them know that we're all in this team together. It can be a little split sometimes, and I assume you've heard about that and seen it. I like that you're attacking that from the beginning. Pac-Man has a question for you, Coach. What's up, Coach?
Starting point is 01:34:36 What's up, Pac? What's up? I had a chance to come to your practice last year and send a friend the vibe, and we talked a good little bit about the culture of what you like. My question is, how are you in playing your culture into the locker room? Because it wasn't like that the year before. And I talked to J. Joe. He said Jalen Prate, the DB, is looking pretty good.
Starting point is 01:35:00 What's your thoughts on that? Yeah, I think, first off, when it starts with the culture pack, it starts with the guys that you bring in, right? So that's why it was important to me to add, you know, Jimmy Ward, Sheldon Rankins, Hassan Ridgeway, the guys who I've been around before, veteran guys who know what winning looks like, Robert Woods, like guys who they understand what winning looks like. So you put those guys in the locker room and when it comes to the culture, I think it's a daily fight to really teach and show these guys on what does practice look like, right? What are the habits we want to have off the field? How are we attacking the region with our bodies? Like it's just all encompassing,
Starting point is 01:35:44 it's a daily grind to teach guys. So that culture changes just doesn't happen overnight, but adding the right guys to your locker room, the guys change the culture. Not just what I say, but it's having those guys. They are the culture. They are the culture.
Starting point is 01:35:59 That's what it's about. It's always about the men in the locker room. So adding a guy like will, right. That's the guy like Will, right? That's the guy who I want guys to look to. That's what our locker room is going to be made of. And that's how you build it. And when it comes to, you know, as J. Joe mentioned, is Jalen Petrie.
Starting point is 01:36:17 He's been outstanding, right? This guy has, man, he plays with his hair on fire every day at practice. It's just fun watching him as such a young player, watching him and Jimmy Ward work together in tandem. It's fun to watch. Kind of have to try to slow these guys down out there because they are flying around making plays all over the field. Hey, you'd rather have to say, whoa, than go, right? No doubt. No doubt. That's it. Yeah, go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Oh, go ahead, coach. I'm sorry. Go doubt. That's it. Yeah. Go ahead, AJ. Oh, go ahead, coach. I'm sorry. Go ahead. You can finish. Yeah. Fuck me. Yeah. No, that's like, and that's why we talk about that culture, right?
Starting point is 01:36:52 Building like Peachtree, like the way he practices. And I just continue to show clips and practice. I mean, this is what it looks like. Every rep is important to this guy. Every rep. He wants to make every play. He's going to attack the ball. That's what winning culture looks like.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Look at DB showing up, huh? Yeah. They just say he's a dog. You like him? Yeah. I like him. Petrie, we know who he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:16 From? Jalen? Yep, from? Where the hell did he play? Baylor. Oh, Baylor. Baylor. Baylor?
Starting point is 01:37:24 Baylor. Yeah, he's a rookie. Big 12 defense guy. He's the guy setting the standard over Baylor. Oh, Baylor. Baylor, okay. Baylor? Baylor. Yeah, he's a rookie last year. Big 12 defense guy. He's the guy setting the standard over there. He's the clip guy. Love that. Hey, let's go. How about it?
Starting point is 01:37:32 I love everything. That's what I heard. That's what I heard right there. I love to hear. Hey, Petrie, let's go, bub. Here we go. I love everything you're about. Go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Have you kind of figured out exactly what your game day operation is going to be as the head coach now that you're not going to be there calling the defense? I know you brought in Matt Burke as your defensive coordinator there. How is that going to work? Is it going to be tough not to step in every once in a while or try to really micromanage those situations? I don't like that. It was good having that first run this past week, man, versus the Patriots. And Matt called the defense.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Bobby, of course, handled the offense. Then Frank handled our special team. So when it came to the defensive side, you know, I let Bert call it. He did a great job, and we worked in tandem. So if there were any, you know, conversations or things that came up, any situational football, what type of calls would we go with, me and him having a conversation on the sideline and working in tandem, and it worked very smoothly, man.
Starting point is 01:38:26 I really love working with all our coaches on game. There was a smooth process. And it was fun to see how all of our coaches were communicating, working together, really attacking the game on game day. It was fun to be around. Swarming. Isn't that your thing, swarm? That's it.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Yeah, that's it, man. Swarm is something i started you know back in san fran and uh the swarm mentality it all started with as we talked about the culture and the type of guys you want to be around that swarm mentality is just an acronym for i want to build my team with guys who have a special work ethic and a relentless mindset. That's where the swarm mentality came in. Special work ethic and relentless mindset. Hell yeah. Fuck yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Hey, that's awesome. So you like the word swarm. Let's go back to the development of this. You like the word swarm, and then you had to think to yourself, what does swarm mean? What does it mean what does it what is it what does it mean to me and then you start piecing special work ethic and relentless mindset fucking book it send it hey that's genius that is very how'd you get to swarm and you're still
Starting point is 01:39:38 is this going to be in every is this like the texans motto now that's what it is for right now all right well i think as i build it out it all starts like i talked about with the people you Texans motto now? That's what it is for right now. I think as I build it out, it all starts, like I talked about, with the people you want. As I start out, that's where we are now. That's what the Texan culture will be about, swarming. And it's attacking everything. Of course, swarm is all-encompassing, but to me it involves teamwork.
Starting point is 01:40:06 It involves how you attack issues and swarming this thing all together. How are you going to attack a defense or offense? Man, it's those 11 guys out there swarming together on the field. So it's all encompassing for me. Coach, you got a good one there. I think that's a good one. Oh, yeah. You know, they say like, keep it simple, stupid.
Starting point is 01:40:21 All those things. The coach, there's so much like so much coach stuff. That's swarm one. Hey, that's a good one. Keep it. That is a good one. I appreciate it, stupid. Bingo. Oh, the coach, there's so much, like, so much coach stuff. That swarm one. Hey, that's a good one. Keeper. That is a good one. I appreciate it, man. Hell, yeah, maybe you're supposed to coach.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Yeah. You know what I mean? Maybe you're supposed to coach. You always knew you were going to be a coach? Yeah, it started out, man, during the lockout year. You guys remember that lockout year, 2000, 2011? That's where I was. I was rehabbing. I tore my Achilles. I was rehabbing during that process. Couldn't be here to work out.
Starting point is 01:40:51 So I went back home, Alabama, and I started working with our high school, my old high school, and started coaching those kids through a spring game. And those kids had won a long time and never won. They had won a game in a year or so. And those kids had won in a long time. They had won a game in a year or so. And, man, I got out there, started working with those kids, and we put together a nice little plan, went out and won a spring game. And to see the excitement on those kids' faces when we won, I was like, oh, yeah, this is it. Like, I want to continue this process.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Didn't know it would turn into this. Didn't know I would be a fucking defensive genius. Didn't know that I'd be able to create swarm and motivate the hell out of people. Yeah, didn't know, but it is a nice little perk though, isn't it? Nice little perk at the start. Yeah, it is, man. And it all started coaching.
Starting point is 01:41:40 It all started with me was just really, man, just want to go back and help younger guys. So I thought I would do it on a high school level. But then it was like, man, if I can get the opportunity to do it in a league, why not? So Sam Friend, Kyle allowed me to come in. Kyle and Robert Sala allowed me to come in and work with those guys. And I actually learned what coaching was actually about that first year. And I understood the grind of coaching and how I didn't know anything about
Starting point is 01:42:06 coaching and I had to figure it out very quickly, but I just enjoy helping these young men. That's what it's all about for me. See, I think you should have got a head coaching job immediately. One spring game, right? The head coach, Jeff Saturday, you know what I mean? Jeff Saturday, just make it. We love Jeff.
Starting point is 01:42:25 I was happy for him. Had to happen. Connor to that point though. I think Connor has Saturday just make it. We love Jeff. I was happy for him. It had to happen. Connor, to that point, though, I think Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, you mentioned some of the stuff you've got to do as a head coach with interviews and scheduling and stuff, but sometimes when guys go from DC or OC to head coach, they kind of change a little. Recently with Robert Sala, you just mentioned him,
Starting point is 01:42:40 that first year in New York it felt like he wasn't the jovial Niners D coordinator he was, and it kind of took him a year until his second year in New York where he became what we thought was kind of similar to who he was in San Fran have you found it difficult at all going to you know the head coach role and still remaining the same you know coach type that you were in San Francisco obviously you got to work more with the offense and the team as a whole, but is that difficult at all or has it been so far? You know, it hasn't been difficult. One thing I tell myself throughout this process becoming a head coach is
Starting point is 01:43:13 I'm going to be me and I'm going to do it my way, right? And I just believe in being positive, energetic every single day, and I want my team to feel that from me. So every time I step up in front of those guys, it's high energy. I'm bringing it when you're on practice. I'm at guys, I'm yelling at guys. I'm intense out there on the field. That's how I was as a D coordinator. And I'm the same as a head coach. I'm barking at the offense, the defense. Like I want guys to play with some intensity and passion because that's who I am.
Starting point is 01:43:46 So I want our team to exude that person, my personality to show up in our team. Is there music playing at practice? Oh yeah. We got music playing. We got all the guys, you know, provided a song, their favorite song. And so we just run a playlist. It's just different songs for what all the guys, it's all about the players and what they want to listen to at practice. So that's what we listen to. Has there been a song yet where everybody was like, who the fuck? Has there been one of those? You had a pretty good.
Starting point is 01:44:14 We feel pretty good about the players. I really, I think they've been too tired to even understand what's being played. How is it? How is camp? You run a tough camp? You feel like you have to have a tough camp, right? Yeah, you have to have a tough camp. And we have a different element here with the heat, the humidity here in Houston. It's definitely it's a beast out here. So our guys, they're getting it in and nobody complains.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Guys put the work in. So it's fun to watch these guys work. You guys joint practicing and how are those not fights every period? Yeah, it's funny you bring it up. We're actually joint practicing. Our first one will be tomorrow, and we'll go Wednesday and Thursday versus the Dolphins. So how is it not a fight? We just let guys know up front. We want to actually use these joint practices to get better, right, going against different schemes, different people.
Starting point is 01:45:02 We don't want to waste time and energy fighting because there's nothing, nothing to gain from this. So we really want to attack it head on and make sure we get, get the opportunity to take advantage of these days and not waste our time. Oh, just don't take me down to the ground. Don't take me down to the ground. You know, it just, if from covering them now, because they're much more prevalent, it feels like, in the NFL now than they were back in the day when I was playing, when you guys started, the whole thing, you know what I mean? It feels like it's much different. And all it is for us as Internet people is just like fight after fight after fight.
Starting point is 01:45:38 And then you start thinking about it. It's like, how is it not a fight? And you don't have to say this because you're one of the head coaches in the NFL, but I think me as a fan now, if the Colts have a joint practice for three days with a team and there's pads and there isn't a fight, I think, like, as a fan, I'm going to be like, you know, what the fuck is wrong? What is wrong with our team? It feels like there should be a little bit more somewhere.
Starting point is 01:45:59 But if you guys are able to control it, I think it's only going to make the teams better and better. And we love it, Coach. Thank you for that speech. Hey, last question here for you from Ty. Yeah, Coach, obviously you know when you get into the league, the goal is to win. And if you don't win, you're not going to be around very long. But when you come into a new situation, you have a whole new regime. Like you mentioned it, you're going to have a lot of young guys who need to kind of contribute and make an impact early. How do you set realistic expectations within, like, your coaching room
Starting point is 01:46:29 and also within the team? For me, when you talk about it, I understand, like, the urgency, right, about being in the league and having this position. So I don't take that lightly. And as I come into the situation, man, we are trying to attack everything every day. Like, we are attacking this to win. I know there are some guys who have to grow and develop, but, hey, like I told the guys, too, like, we're running out of time.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Like, it's time to go. It's time to go and compete, line up on Sundays. Like, we're going to win games. We're not going to develop talent. Like, we're going to win games. When you talk to guys on our team, like veterans, like Laramie Tunsil, Robert Woods, like Malik Collins, Sheldon Rankin, they're not trying to develop talent.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Like, we're trying to go win games. That's what the league is about, and that's what we're going to do. That's what we're going to put out there, a winning mindset in everything that we do. Coach, I fucking love you, buddy. It sucks, though, that you've got to play the Colts two times a year. It's going to be tough. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:47:29 I know you guys are going to see it. You're not there anymore. You're right. You're actually right. So we got a chance. We got a chance. Yeah, you're right, Coach, because that's what teams are worried about in the AFC South.
Starting point is 01:47:39 They still got Pat McAfee up there. Boy, we're fucked. That's what they actually thought. I think, though, CJ, this young class of quarterbacks and this young generation of quarterbacks, I think the league is in great hands, coach, and I know you have to go, but I feel like we're in a great spot. You feel like that
Starting point is 01:47:54 with your guy, right? I assume you've been around a lot of great football, and you're going to have to say this, but as a fan, it feels like we got a great young group of quarterbacks right now in the NFL. Oh, it's fun to see, man. It's time for that next group, right, to come up and take over. And it's fun to see all these young guys coming up, right, different levels of talent.
Starting point is 01:48:15 But it's exciting, right? I think the most exciting part about the new regime of quarterbacks is just the athleticism at the quarterback position. And that's what's changing in the league. That's where it's going. Not all the typical dropback quarterbacks, but these guys being able to move and make plays with their feet, it's more exciting for the game, more challenging on defenses, but it's fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:48:37 And I'm fired up for these young guys and the opportunity to see them change the league is going to be a beauty to see. Dude, CJ was able to evade a couple sacks, too, in that first preseason game. People forget about that whole thing. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Houston Texans legend, D'Amico Reyes. Thank you, coach.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Yeah, coach! Did we do it again? What? We talked to him until 1.58. Yep. Does he have a meeting? He had a hard out? Does he have a meeting? Probably. At 2 o'clock? He's a58. Does he have a meeting? Does he have a hard out? Does he have a meeting?
Starting point is 01:49:06 At 2 o'clock? Does he have a meeting? The whole team is sitting there waiting for him to walk in the front door. Because then we're fucking up the culture. Yeah. Because if he's showing up late to a meeting, he's the head coach. Boy, that has a ripple effect for the rest of his regime. They're probably all watching in the room, though.
Starting point is 01:49:21 He probably didn't get there at 1.30. Yeah. In the minute, 36. Yeah, I think you're right. He knows. Plus, this is what you want to do as a Colts fan. I mean, you're trying to get in that business. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Smart. Stir it up. Yeah. This is like when people thought that the Cleveland Browns owner was paying so much money because the rest of the people in the division couldn't pay the amount of money that he could pay. We thought it was next level chess that old buddy was playing. Everybody's mad at me for $230 million.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Okay, fuck you. You think Bengals are going to be able to do it, bro? No. You think Ravens are going to be able to do that with Lamar Jackson? No. You think Steelers will do that with any other quarterback? No. I just fucking ran the business right out of the division.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Whoops. Sorry. Sorry, I'm playing up here and you're not. No, the Ravens did. The Bengals will. And that's a complete backfire. Worst contract, people are saying, in a long time. But that's what we could have potentially been doing there.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Ruining the culture before it even starts. I wasn't trying to do that. But with that being said, I told him, Colts are still a fucking problem. Colts are still a problem. And he was worried about me. Still doing it. Send that invoice to Jim now.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Yeah, absolutely. Hey, he he looks he's early there he said everything that every head coach that we've ever talked to has said like all the administrative shit that's starting to come across my desk yeah i mean i haven't done some of this stuff since i've been married you think i've worried about any of this shit while i'm coaching football my entire life no, you need to set up a schedule. Ask my wife. What are you talking about? My wife has everything scheduled.
Starting point is 01:50:49 When I work at this time and then when I get home, she has it down. I sleep from this time to this time. I get to see the kids for this time, and then I come back into work. What do we even schedule? I haven't seen one of these in years. Somebody's probably supposed to make this and put it in front of me. What are you talking about me? Well, how much time do you want to have off?
Starting point is 01:51:07 Somebody should know that. Oh, that's you. The fuck? Could you imagine getting dropped in there with no preparation? That would be hilarious. I mean, just Saturday. Yeah, bingo. Can you imagine all we had to deal with early on?
Starting point is 01:51:23 Wow. All right, training room has a meeting with you. About what? I don't know. Tape their fucking ankles? Well, here's a bunch of people that have been late to training. What do you want to do to this? What do we normally do?
Starting point is 01:51:34 What? Well, I don't know. It's your call. So much. That's like 6.30 a.m. the first day. That's what he's dealing with. What do we normally? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:44 It depends. You're the coach. It's 7 o'clock. What are we normally? Well, I don't know. It depends. You're the coach. It's 7 o'clock. Fucking max fight him. Is that what everybody's supposed to do? Well, nobody really does that because you're kind of viewed as an asshole. Jesus. All right, half fight him.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Half fight him. That's now at 633. Yeah. Okay, the meal that's being served this morning. What the fuck? Feed him. I don't know. What are we eating?
Starting point is 01:52:04 Everybody eats. Bacon? Sausage What are we eating? Everybody eats bacon. Sausage. Do we not have a nutritionist? Well, she puts together a plan. You see, we got to actually pick the, how much downtime in between walkthrough and practice or whatever? I don't know. What the fuck is the normal?
Starting point is 01:52:16 Figure it out, bro. Two hours? Well, that's not enough time for them to fully recover. Well, people are going to get pissed though. It's two hours. We're going to get three hours. That's way too long. Okay. Does everybody have a fucking answer? pissed, though. It's two hours. Wait, three hours. That's way too long. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Does everybody have a fucking answer? So much that is not football. Did you hear D'Amico? D'Amico said it the exact same way that Chuck Pagano has said it. The exact same way, I think, that Kevin O'Connell said it. The exact same way every human that's come on our show that's become a head coach is like, yeah, I get hired because
Starting point is 01:52:41 I'm fucking good at coaching ball. And then I sit in a seat and the first 50 things I see every single day, nowhere near coaching ball. It is over here. That's a crazy adjustment. That's why Bill Belichick able to do that and GM at the level that he does for how long he's been able to do it is like worthy of a praise every time that you fucking think of it
Starting point is 01:53:05 honestly well and that's why his press conferences are the way they are i think just because it's like okay the one thing that i can just not even think about just aimlessly just say nothing is press conference and that's where i'm going to take my time i'm giving the same answer in every one of these conversations yep and i'll run and mumble yeah i got four game plans to figure out for this next game because, remember, we change game plan every fucking quarter. And then also I got to figure out what roster I'm going to have by next week. What do you think of Mac Jones' development?
Starting point is 01:53:34 He's developing. How's the offense this year versus last year? Well, it's obviously a new year. Do you like any of your players? I like everybody the exact same do you yeah and then he's and then he's back who am i picking exact same who am i picking on this team who's gonna be number 50 fucking two on this roster yeah i mean that's so much shit yeah to have to deal how does he and you're making you're making moves all year too the roster's not like hey it's we're set no
Starting point is 01:54:04 you're making moves almost every day i feel like they're always 16 players on the practice squad now handle them yeah also have to negotiate i guess lead council does the negotiation but still you're in in the middle of it all yeah thinking about somebody else's 50 second best player like being talked about and seeing if that best player is better than your 50 second best player it is not a job like laying brick or the military, cops. We're not saying that, obviously. Not like that at all. But the amount of mental consumption that football has to take over
Starting point is 01:54:35 if you're at one of those jobs is absurd. And Bill Belichick has had two of those jobs. Yeah. For 20-plus years. But you don't deal with that until you're the head coach, though. You're sheltered from a lot of that. When you're a position coach and a coordinator, every answer you could ever get,
Starting point is 01:54:51 hey, you got to talk to the head coach about that one, like whatever comes to you. You're the wide receiver coach, so I'm going to ask you about the wide receivers. How are the wide receivers doing? Well, that's a good question for the coach. That's a good question for the coach. Because, you know, I obviously work with them on a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:55:07 I think they're doing great, but honestly, I'm a little biased judgment. You're going to have to ask the head coach. What are you guys doing this week with Bubba Buzz reps? I'm obviously not in charge of that. You're going to have to ask the coach. In all of those, you're going to have to ask the coaches. From the other coaches, from the players, from the front office, you're going to have to ask
Starting point is 01:55:23 the coach. That's all just one desk. Good luck out there. Hope you win some games. If you don't, you're getting fucking fired. Same with you and your friends. And joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man that not too long ago hoisted this much bigger, the actual version of this,
Starting point is 01:55:42 but it looked similar to this baby Lordo right here. That's right. He's a man who has the first C in the history of an entire franchise. Hell yeah. Whoa. When they started a new program,
Starting point is 01:55:55 they said, we'll know when our captain arrives. And they did, didn't they? Oh, yeah. When this son of a bitch showed up, they said, this is the guy that is going to lead our team.
Starting point is 01:56:07 And in the game, clincher. Playoff round, clincher. He had a hat trick, could have scored four. If he would have scored four, we would have donated $100,000. But instead, he led the Golden Knights to a Stanley Cup. And donation of $250,000 is due by us because of this man. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Stoner. Yes, sir!
Starting point is 01:56:29 Stoner, how you doing? How you doing, pal? Great. Thanks for the hell of an intro there. Hey, you deserved it. How's the offseason been knowing that you guys hosted the actual one of these? How's it been? Has it been awesome?
Starting point is 01:56:42 Has life changed? Have you felt just a different sense about you now that you've won this thing that you've desired since you were just a little baby boy skating on frozen ponds? Have you felt a life changer since becoming a Stanley Cup champion, Stoner? Yeah, definitely. I'd be lying if I didn't say my life has changed, but it's been awesome. We partied pretty good for a little bit, took a break. We've been at each other's weddings lately, reminiscing, so it's been great.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Oh my God. Weddings after the cup. Is everybody back? I should have done more research. Are we back? No, I mean, I'm still in Canada right now. No, no, I'm talking about team, team contracts wise. Are we all back on the ice together? Well, we unfortunately had to trade Riley Smith. He's in Pittsburgh. Oh, I forgot. I'm a Golden Knights fan.
Starting point is 01:57:34 I'm a Golden Knights fan. That's right. A few other guys. Blugers and where is he? Vancouver, I think. There's a few guys that aren't coming back, but we're returning pretty much everybody. We're going to be all right.
Starting point is 01:57:46 I love that vibes are high. I love that you guys have gotten married. Whenever you think about a $250,000 donation because you guys win Lord Stanley Cup, do you think to yourself, I can't believe that just happened just as a throwaway comment now? We're getting a chance to really do something great here like i i was reminded of this within the last week because
Starting point is 01:58:10 it was like hey stoner's about ready to come back on and they figured out where they're that was a good hey this is a good thing i'm pumped that we're i'm very thankful you guys won the stanley cup and we're getting to do this have you decided where the money will go and what we're going to do with it? And by the way, I would like to let you know, next year you guys do it again? $500,000. Hell yeah. All right, so there's $250,000. Where are we going with it and why, Stoner?
Starting point is 01:58:35 Yeah, I mean, I think when you brought it up, it was kind of so focused and dialed in that, you know, kind of went in, not in one ear or the other, but kind of went over my head a little bit. But when we won, kind of thought back on it on it was pretty incredible for you guys to do this um no no no we ended up deciding to uh to go with uh an organization in in las vegas uh called cure for the kids um it's a outpatient cancer uh center um they I think, almost 400 patients a week. So we've done a lot of stuff with them since we've, well, especially since I've been with the team. You know, there's a couple of years where we weren't able to visit these types of places with the COVID
Starting point is 01:59:20 stuff going on. But, you know, we went back this year, and it's a special place not only for me but for my teammates, our spouses, and the organization. Hell yeah. Hey, hell yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Honored to be a part of it. Go ahead, AJ.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Would you say winning the cup, does it give you more motivation to go try to get another one, or do you think, like you hear people talk about like the hangover after a team wins a super bowl or maybe they win a cup that they may sit back and rest a little bit yeah i mean the summer's been been going by pretty quick but um looking back at all the fun times we had it just makes me want to do it again you know especially our trophy's pretty unique right um uh once uh once that season starts uh the only way to see it again is to win it again. I think our team's pretty excited to get going. I keep telling people I had so much fun doing it
Starting point is 02:00:16 that I just want to continue to try and do it again. They say you get addicted to that confetti. That's what they say. It happens. Aaron Donald was retired. He won a Super Bowl. He's like, maybe we addicted to that confetti. Yeah. That's what they say. It happens. Aaron Donald was retired. Yeah. And he won a Super Bowl. And he's like, well, maybe, maybe we do this one more again.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Love it. And Tom Brady, what are you still playing for? He's like, well, you have no idea what that feels like. Yeah. Yes. As many times as I do. I can't wait to see what you guys do. Pac-Man, obviously, massive fan, is excited to hear what he's hearing.
Starting point is 02:00:39 What do you got, brother? Stone, first question. Did you play in that championship game with a broke wrist? And how many surges have you had to have since the game? What happened? Yeah, I unfortunately took a whack in the first period and fractured my left wrist, I guess. And, you know, took a few things in between periods
Starting point is 02:01:08 to make sure that she was good to go for the last one because I didn't want to keep playing knowing that I did that. So it was good to get that done. Had to make sure it was dialed in to lift the trophy too. Yeah, absolutely. So if we look back, absolutely, Doug. If we look back, it's going to be a lot of right-hand dominant.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Is that what we're... If we look into this, you don't seem to be playing through any injury here in the middle of this. Is it this one here? It's the left, yeah. Look how swollen that is. Yeah. Look at how little
Starting point is 02:01:42 baby I am. I need to watch this one. I made sure I wasn't feeling much in the wrist during that celebration Oh some of the in between period stuff Potentially mixing with some other stuff Love everything about that Didn't you talk to us afterwards? Did we talk to him? Yeah
Starting point is 02:01:57 Why didn't you tell us? Hey buddy he's had a broken wrist A little bit of a run It wasn't important Hey, buddies. Had a broken wrist. Broken fucking wrist. A little bit of a run. You didn't even. You know what? Go ahead. It wasn't important. Yeah, why is.
Starting point is 02:02:08 That is the hockey culture, though. It's not like that anywhere else. You know, like hockey, it feels like in 2023, with how many eyes are on the data and analytics of health and medicine and everything like that, they're the last one that's like, yeah, he's got a lower body. Fucking get over it. Yeah, but that's a lot of things. Like, yeah, it's just down there. And then after the season ends one that's like, yeah, he's got a lower body. Fucking get over it. Yeah, but that's a lot of things.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Like, yeah, it's just down there. And then after the season ends, it's like, this guy had actually two broken shins and a fractured femur for like the last month. It's like, what? That's normally something that people would want out there. But you guys, it's just the culture. Like, yeah, this happens. This is what hockey is.
Starting point is 02:02:42 We'll deal with it when we deal with it. Is that just going to be hockey forever, you think? And why do you think your sport's so different than everywhere else? culture like yeah this happens this what hockey is we'll deal with it when we deal with it is that just going to be hockey forever you think and why do you think your sport's so different than everywhere else i don't know um i mean you look at the florida team i mean i'm pretty good friends with the kachuks guy matthew played game four with a broken sternum which is one of the crazier things i've ever heard uh clearly a reason why he couldn't play game five but yeah lift him up and put him in his skates right that was that story yeah i saw him maybe a week later the guy looked like the tin man i felt you know it's tough but
Starting point is 02:03:16 um i don't know i i think like most sports right but he just wants to win they'll do anything to win and i think we're no different no no your sport is different people if that story came out about the stardom thing there'd be lawsuits oh yeah law rules would have to change in our sport there'd be people protesting the sport as a whole for sure i mean it's real deal and hockey is just like still something that is revered and like toughness is appreciated like we respect that as like kind of, you know, I don't want to feel like we yell at a cloud, but we are kind of like old school people. And hockey feels like it's the only one that has that left.
Starting point is 02:03:51 And I hope it never changes. And to Chuck Young, right, Matt, any younger player? Yeah, I think he's probably 25, maybe 26. Still super young. Yeah, but that's a generation of like, hey, I'm hurt. Everybody needs to know this. Next one. I'm out.
Starting point is 02:04:07 You never know when you're going to win again, right? You might never win. So while you're there, you got to give it a try. It's a great mentality. I wish every sport would go back to it pretty much. Ty, obviously, has lived and died with the Vegas Golden Knights over the last six years. Ty, go ahead, pal.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Yeah, I've been an absolute whirlwind. But, God, what a season it was, Stoner. So I appreciate that. I'm just curious, going off like that conversation, when you have a deep playoff run. What's up, doggy? What's up, doggy? Hey, Stanley, sit.
Starting point is 02:04:41 Sit. Sit. When you have a deep playoff run like that, and obviously you have the wrist and then everything that's been going on with your back over the last couple years, how long does it take your body to actually get back to somewhere close to 100% before the start of the next season? Or is that something where you'll never be 100% again?
Starting point is 02:05:02 Well, for me, yeah, it's a lot of maintenance, right? But, I mean, I didn't play for, what was it, three months before the playoffs, so when it was over, I was actually kind of disappointed. I was feeling good. I wanted to keep going, but I mean, obviously, that's stupid to say because we
Starting point is 02:05:19 accomplished our goal, but I've missed so much time these last couple of years that I feel good. I want to keep playing now. So I have a lot of maintenance, but I don't get to lift like I used to. I don't get to work out like I used to, which, you know, everybody gets older.
Starting point is 02:05:40 You got to kind of more maintain and strength strength. Yeah. And with where your brain is right now yeah you know hey watching you i didn't know of your existence that long ago so i do apologize for that obviously when ty would speak about stoner and aces yeah hey we got jackie aces and stoner i knew the name before i knew of you. And then getting to watch you through the playoff run this year, hey, you're a heady player. Oh, yeah. Hey, you're a heady player, pal. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:06:11 Oh, yeah. No, obviously, got to be a dog because everybody was trying to fight you guys every single series. So you're going to have to take some shots, and obviously you have a broken wrist. But I feel like right here, pal, is where the old stoner, you know, is way, way ahead of others you said you want to keep playing you feel energized how long we talking we talking till we're like 50
Starting point is 02:06:30 years old 60 years old or what stoner oh i always joke they're gonna have to peel my corpse off the ice to get me out of there i want to keep playing till they don't let me play any longer you know hell yeah i definitely don't uh i definitely don't do it with my feet, that's for sure. I do it more with my brain. So I think even if I slow down, it should be all right. Hey, listen, if you ain't winning many races, blue line, blue line, your brain's going to have to be a little bit. And you figured it out.
Starting point is 02:06:59 And God damn, almost four goals. I forgot about that. As I was talking to you, I didn't do enough research on the entire story. This guy almost got another 100,000 for scoring four goals in the playoffs. You're an absolute dog, which is why I think Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Stoner, you mentioned some of the weddings you went to, and I believe Kachuk's brother got married. And if memory serves me right from the internet,
Starting point is 02:07:20 I think you were in that wedding with Brady. How was that? Did the entire Kachuk family just give you the cold shoulder and just treat you like shit because you stole the cup from Matt? Or was it bygones be bygones, they were happy for you for winning? Yeah, I mean, when I was playing in Ottawa, Brady lived with me when he was 19, so that's how that connection started. Got great respect for the family.
Starting point is 02:07:44 So they're one of the most fun fun families uh out there so we had a pretty uh pretty good time um there's a respect there right if we would have lost i would have been happy for him if we would have uh i mean i'm happy we won but he i think uh there's very few people that uh you know, the Kachuks are okay with winning and losing to, and I think I'm fortunate that I'm one of them. Hell, yeah. An honorable loss. You know, that lad Stoner's a good one.
Starting point is 02:08:13 That's what they said to the Kachuk family. That's right. Whenever they were driving out of the arena. You know, Stoner's a good one. Stoner's a good one. He'll play through a broken, you know. That's right. I mean, our boy had a broken sternum.
Starting point is 02:08:26 So, I mean, a little bit different. That is wild. He's crazy. I remember them telling the story of, they actually had to, like, pick his body up off the ground. And then I think he had a goal or an assist. I think he had, like, a point. He scored a huge goal.
Starting point is 02:08:43 And it's like... He played most of game three with the broken sternum, and then he came back and played four with the broken sternum again. So he actually played probably over almost two games. Didn't he have a game winner in there at some point? I think the Senate to OT. Senate to OT, yeah. And so in the second game, he knew he had a broken sternum.
Starting point is 02:09:04 Yeah. First game, you don't hear – it's like, ah, man. It so in the second game, he knew he had a broken sternum. Yeah. First game, you don't hear it. It's like, ah, man. It's not Earth's. It's the floor. Oh, my God. There's something really wrong going on. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 02:09:11 And then after the game, they're like, okay, so here's your x-ray. This is really terrible. Yeah. Not good. What is going on inside of your body right now is not good. Oh, that's why I can't stand up. So if somebody lifts my ass into fucking skates, I think I can still play. I think I can still play.
Starting point is 02:09:26 I hope no one hits me. NHL should be promoting the shit out of that. Listen to the dudes we got in this league, okay? We got guys that you got to actually take a shovel, pick up their broken fucking carcass, put in the skates, and then they'll just, they'll hockey. And then they'll just kind of come right back
Starting point is 02:09:45 off what a culture over there speaking culture i do believe the boys like the booze a little tone has a question yeah speaking of culture speaking of potentially slowing down has wild bill carlson slowed down at all or is he still getting dragged off of that stage um after he was given that unbelievable unbelievable speech to remind people here is the video, Stoner, just in case you forgot about it. You guys can hear me? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:09 Yeah, you hear me? So, this guy, this effing guy. Yeah, I know, I know. Yeah, we all do. He was here. They know. Yeah, we all do. He was here day one. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Long time ago. You have been here day fucking one. I'm gone. You guys are so amazing. won. I'm proud. You guys are so amazing.
Starting point is 02:10:51 We played Arizona in the first game and we beat the shit out of them. Yeah. You were there. And I had no points. I had no points
Starting point is 02:11:06 I had no points No points Tough round Tough round But that's okay Because at year one I was pretty Fucking great
Starting point is 02:11:17 But It's okay No points Sorry You guys were greater Of course It's okay No point sorry You guys are greater Of course It's not about me We've been
Starting point is 02:11:30 On this journey To the top Pass it to Marci Marci you got something to say No no no Listen to meci. Marci, you got something to say? No, no, no, no. Listen to me. We've been waiting for six long years for this guy to be MVP. Great intro.
Starting point is 02:12:03 Yeah. Yes. You took the road around a little bit. I did. All right. Marci's son. Great intro. Yeah. Yes. He took the road around a little bit. He did. All right. Thank you. He did it. He got it.
Starting point is 02:12:11 He did it. It was a long intro. We didn't know where he was going. A couple different times. Yep. There's a good couple pops out of the crowd. What was the reaction from old Wild Bill, the entire operation? Like maybe the next day, Wild Bill go, oh, geez.
Starting point is 02:12:24 Or that's just standard wild bill operation there. Well, the thing was, I, they said, who wants to talk? Who wants to talk? Stoner, you got to talk. Okay. Maybe we should get somebody from the original team. And, uh, all the guys like, nah, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. And just randomly, he's like, well, I'll talk. do it and just randomly he's like well i'll talk grabs the microphone and god i don't know where he was going with it but it was unbelievable nobody else wanted it was legendary he had his uh he had his cup party i think in sweden uh and
Starting point is 02:12:58 on saturday and him and his mom were dancing around the cup to abba the dancing queen so he's uh he's still having a good time. I think he took a little bit of time off after that one. Had to look in the mirror a couple of times, you know, like that's going to happen. That's going to take place whenever you're celebrating Lord. Oh, you got to do what you got to do. How have the parties been with a Stanley cup?
Starting point is 02:13:21 Has it made its way back to you? Where is it now? And do you get like, is it like a group text picture videos from everybody's celebration or how does it work yeah so it started i think uh july 8th um in quebec nick waugh had it and then just starts making its rounds um those keepers of the cup they they get to see some uh some good stuff i think along the way oh yeah mike yeah i had mine on july 25th in winnipeg um you know did got to see my child old childhood rink hasn't changed at all i went to my high school um then just went to my country club there had a members got to see it and then then we just had a huge party there with about 80 people.
Starting point is 02:14:08 Not massive, just friends and family. And we tested out its durability to see how much alcohol can be drank out of it. Oh, okay. You guys are boozing. Yeah. 80 people boozing on that thing. Are we doing mixed drinks in there? Are we chugging beers?
Starting point is 02:14:21 What was the go-to? I think you can get 16 cans of beer in there. So weugging beers what was the go-to um i think you get 16 uh 16 cans of beer in there so we tested that tested the limits on that one um and then did some champagne uh for some other people and then we had some non-alcoholics in there for the for the young folk oh okay oh i thought you were gonna say you put weed in there for the moment but the uh i get i understand yeah for the young kids of course yeah for the apple Apple juice. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. 16 cans. Anybody doing that and ruining the rest of their nights?
Starting point is 02:14:47 Or is that just something that's kind of split amongst the boys? That's a split. We usually see how long you can last, but it's not very stable when you're trying to pour out of it. You've got to have a good steady hand for the guy who's pouring it. You can get a little messy there if you've got somebody who's had a few too many. AJ actually worked out for 37 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:12 So that when Mr. Jack Johnson won a Stanley Cup, he could pour that. Is this still your profile picture? I believe so, yeah. He felt. Hey, you should have seen him, Stoner. He was full flex. Yep. Bang.
Starting point is 02:15:25 Pow. Oh, yeah. Dumping. hey, you should have seen him, Stoner. He was full flex. Yep. Bang. Pow. Oh, yeah. Dumping. I mean, it is beautiful. How many photos? Are you allowing people to take photos when things are going down with the Stanley Cup or what's the normal rules? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:35 We had a photographer kind of following the night the whole time and then people were taking pictures, videos. I mean, it's a cool picture to get drinking drinking out of that Stanley Cup. Look at AJ. Look how sturdy that hand is right there. Perfect. God, I wish I would have known this before I would have phoned you in for this. Oh my God, AJ, you've been hired as the Lord O'Holder guy?
Starting point is 02:15:56 I'll take it. I will take it. That'd be a great gig. It would be a great gig. All right, we appreciate you. My buddies had it wobbling like this. Probably got those broken wrists. They ain't stone or tough. We'll be donating $250,000 in your guys' name to the Cure for the Kids Foundation, right?
Starting point is 02:16:14 Is the name? Correct, yeah. Hell yeah. You go back to back. I'm super excited. Hell yeah. You go back to back. We'll go $500,000 next year, pal. Alright, billboard material there. We're going to put it on the wall. All right, let's go do it. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 02:16:28 Stanley Cup champion, Captain Mark Stone. Yeah! I love that. That was a good visual of what his friends look like. Yeah, it was perfect. Yeah. You know, back when he used to do keg stands, he used to be like, who's grabbing my legs?
Starting point is 02:16:41 And then somebody would say, I got him, and you look a little... I got an ass on me. I don't need you dumping me over the top of this thing, embarrassing myself. You have to do the same thing with Lordo. I had Ruppert dumping that thing. That's right.
Starting point is 02:16:53 That's perfect. Ruppert's pretty jocked. Ruppert's pretty jocked. He's had it before. AJ, is that the coolest you've ever looked with full flex? You see that? Oh, yeah. Full flex.
Starting point is 02:17:03 I was just holding something. Come on, Hawk.? Oh, yeah. Full flex. I was just holding something. Come on, Hawk. It's crazy that you were trying to dump it sideways and you're like, can we just do it this way? You know what I mean? Can we just dump it this way? No, you got to do it.
Starting point is 02:17:18 You're like, all right, I guess. I made my wife take 700 pictures and I scrolled scroll three nope nope don't look good laura angles angles james laura lighting come on laura angles uh all right what have we not talked about that we need to talk about today michael laura boom man what's going on with the michael i guess we'll find out when the book is officially released. If the book is officially released. I know he's on a book tour right now. I don't know if it was an excerpt that said, hey, that whole thing's a sham.
Starting point is 02:17:52 Or if it was actually people reading the book and getting that story. Nonetheless, think this thing's going to grow. It's going to fester. Obviously, Sandra Bullock is being attacked pretty heavily because how damn lovable she was as that mom. Perfect. As that mom. Best actress. Boo-joo.
Starting point is 02:18:11 For the entire year, a lot of movies made, Sandra Bullock wins best actress for portraying this southern mom who just wanted to take care of Michael Lohr and give him a bed for the first time in his fucking life. That's right. If it's not. We fell in love. We did. Holy shit. What a feel-good story. Damn. I don't think it was real. That's what Michael Orr was saying. Wait, they made a movie
Starting point is 02:18:37 about something that wasn't real and people were attacking Sandy for that? Well, she's getting attacked because I think how good she was in it is what made the movie what it was. We thought that's how the people actually were. That's why I'm devastated. Me too. I'm not mad at Sandy, though. I'm like, Sandy feels like she's probably betrayed in this entire thing.
Starting point is 02:18:54 She probably met this sweet lady that she portrayed and was like, aren't you the sweetest soul? That's how I was being portrayed, right? These were the sweetest people. When she talked to the original gal, she just instantly had a southern accent because she knew she was going to be speaking with that in the movie.
Starting point is 02:19:09 Speak to me. Call me Sandy, please. Hi, Sandy. It's an honor to meet you. Can't wait to see my story about Big Mike. And Sandy's like, hi, Sandy. Say Big Mike. Big Mike.
Starting point is 02:19:20 Big Mike. Big Mike. Tim McGraw owned three of the nicest Taco Bells that state has ever seen. That's why I forgot. There's people now saying. Oh, really? You know, they have money. Obviously, that was a three of the nicest Taco Bells that state has ever seen. That's why I forgot. There's people now saying. Oh, really? You know, they had money. Obviously, that was a part of the story is they had money.
Starting point is 02:19:29 I've never watched the movie. I don't know why. I just never really motivated. Big Mock? I don't really like serious football movies. I like Varsity Blues, The Program, stuff like that. I appreciate the fact that in hindsight, you're right. You didn't support something that had.
Starting point is 02:19:44 Yeah. And now I guess it was the right thing to do. I'm on the right side of history. Way to go, AJ. What a hero. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, I guess. No, I'm going to watch it now, actually.
Starting point is 02:19:53 Yeah. I need to see. I need to see what happened. Parsi, Blue is in the program. Feels like you only like football movies with boobs. And here we are, and he's going to say he's going to watch The Blind Side. I doubt it, Hawk. There's no boobs in the program.
Starting point is 02:20:04 You're right. I'm probably going to watch The Blind Side. There the blind side. I doubt it, Hawk. There's no boobs in the program. You're right. I'm probably going to wash the blind side. There's boobs in the program? No, there's not. There's fake dongs. There's no boobs in the program. Yes, there are. I just watched the program on Saturday night.
Starting point is 02:20:14 There are no boobs in it. I mean, Latimer might count. Latimer's got enough juice. His pecs count, I guess. Bingo. Yeah, he did have a good bod. Anyways, whenever we talk about that story now i don't know what we're supposed to say it's a fraud so somebody's gonna have to read the book yeah but
Starting point is 02:20:29 how how how has it gotten this far good question yeah why didn't this happen when the movie came out the fraud is on both sides that's what well michael war like at some point he decided he just didn't want to ruffle any feathers you think that's why he didn't say anything is that what it is well it wasn't the whole entire thing. He didn't like the portrayal of himself, so he didn't even watch the movie. Yeah, I knew that early on. He said that. He didn't like being how he was portrayed. I know that. So he just said, I'm just going to block my life out
Starting point is 02:20:53 from this, even though as soon as I introduce myself anywhere, all anybody's going to think is, boom. The amount of times, oh, blindside. Oh, love the blindside. Has happened to Michael Orr throughout his life. And he's in the NFL a long time, so he's in a lot of times. He won aside. Oh, love the blindside. Has happened to Michael Orr throughout his life. And he's in the NFL a long time, so he's in a lot of times. He won a Super Bowl with them, didn't he, with Baltimore, I believe.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Yeah, in 2012, right? When he was on the team? When they played the Niners. Yeah. That's crazy to think about. It's coming out now, obviously. I would like to hear the entire story because the other side is saying, this ain't real.
Starting point is 02:21:24 Yeah. He probably didn't know. He's probably learned, like, as the years have have gone he's learned a little bit more and more about what was going on probably well i think he probably learned that he wasn't getting none of the paper that's where it all started that's what yeah they were got like 2.5 percent or something yeah nick said that he alleged that apparently everyone in the family the two kids and the parents both got 2.5 percent of the gross i think and like 250 000 dollars it was 500 million which is gross yeah it made 500 million dollars and he and he didn't get a penny from it so he's just he's just finding this out i assume he was told put into an account where he was not monitoring it or whatever because he signed his rights away
Starting point is 02:22:04 no certainly but i'm saying how did he not know that he didn't get any of that money right until how many years are we later yeah he was probably just told like hey this money is in this account for you just like it is for all of us and he probably just learned what everybody else got paid versus what he got paid yeah and then that's when he was like wait a fucking minute and then he got lawyers looking to and they're like well actually they didn't technically adopt you either. You're kind of just put under their conservatorship, which is what happened to Britney Spears.
Starting point is 02:22:30 Right. And because that is part of what they said. Like, yeah, that family was wealthy beforehand, but they said that they took, like, from the gross that they got from the movie, they bought, like, 171 more fast food franchises and, like, started traveling, traveling like exclusively on private jets and stuff like that like kind of almost shoving it in his face a little bit and i guess he was playing in the league so they probably figured like oh he's good it doesn't matter but the dad uh spoke
Starting point is 02:22:56 out yeah it alleges actually no do we alleges that they were not offered any money and they got no money from the movie oh yeah because the way i think i understood it at the time was his story was sold for a book it was yeah then the book person sold the story to him for a movie correct i thought that's why michael orr got bamboozled like hey somebody agreed to sell my story to a book and then the book company are the people that got the movie i I think that's how I... I can see how something like that could definitely happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:30 This, though, is kind of different, right? This is saying, nah, that ain't the case. These people had it. I don't know. We are on Michael Orr's side. Sure, that's right. And that's not the blind side, no. That's right. Are only the parents the fault? Could he go after the studio and whoever was doing that to try to...
Starting point is 02:23:47 And the kid? You know, keep him in the dark and not know, I guess, how much he should be getting? I don't know. Yeah. What did that little kid say? He said something about, like, they're insulted. He's insulted or upset about the allegations. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:24:01 I mean... They have responded. The family has responded. He might be upset because the kid who portrayed him in the movie is one of the worst and most unlikable movie characters of all time, so he might have a bone to pick with that guy. But I don't know why he's got a bone to pick with the real Michael Orr. The movie did $500 million.
Starting point is 02:24:19 They obviously loved him. It was a terrible year for movies. I mean, you should see the other actresses that were nominated for Best Actress. What else was up? Black Swan, Julie and Julie, and just a whole bunch of other shit that you've never seen. Well, that's good timing. I heard of Julie and Julie. Avatar was nominated for Best Picture that year as well.
Starting point is 02:24:40 And it won? No, it did not. What won? Hurt Locker. Good movie. James Cameron's? No, it did not. Well, it won. Hurt Locker. Good movie. James Cameron's ex-wife. Bingo. How pissed was he?
Starting point is 02:24:52 Think how pissed he was. That's like his life's work avatar. Hurt Locker, though. Sorry. She's a great director. Yeah. Catherine Bigelow. It's hard to watch that movie, you know? Because just... Bob, come on. That's all you keep saying.
Starting point is 02:25:07 Yeah. Chasing the dragon. You did it. You did it. Holy shit. You did it. That's all you keep saying. You did it.
Starting point is 02:25:12 You did good. You did really good. And then just can't. No way. No. Let me put this fucking thing back on. Absolutely. They need me.
Starting point is 02:25:21 What a dog. Yeah. Yeah. Addicted to it. Like that. That's the craziest part of that movie Finished Hijack Good
Starting point is 02:25:27 Yep Oh yeah I believe I don't think I think I watched the last episode With Idris Elba Yep Yes
Starting point is 02:25:34 I loved it I thought it was great Yes When did you watch the last one Like last night I watched the last one Literally last night Are we watching this at the same time
Starting point is 02:25:39 Maybe three days ago I finished I've been kind of matriculating My way through it It surprised me. I'm like, oh, what's this? I like Idris Elba, and then it hooked me early. Me too.
Starting point is 02:25:49 I liked it as well. Can't have another season. No. Just one time, seven episodes. Here we go. That's fine. I don't know. That character of old Idris just being like the greatest negotiator of all time.
Starting point is 02:25:59 It is sweet. Not a bad character you could probably take. To different situations. But they would have to change the name. Yeah. Yeah, let's see they would have to change the name. Yeah. Yeah, let's see. That's a one season done. Put on a cruise ship.
Starting point is 02:26:10 Yeah. Someone hijacks a cruise ship and he figures it out. Speed to cruise control. Absolutely. A train. All of us watching are going to be like, of course, this cruise gets hijacked with him here. This guy's luck. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:26:23 Do it. He was incredible. I don't think I've watched what I mean? Do it. He was incredible. I don't think I've watched much of Idris' shit. He's awesome, man. He's done kickboxing matches. He's a DJ. That dude is super talented. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:37 I'm a big fan. He has friends with The Rock. Boys with The Rock. Yeah. He did a movie with him. They were talking about him being Bond. Is he British? He is British.
Starting point is 02:26:49 I heard a lot of accents in that. Are they on strike over there too? No. Oh, so we're about to get all British stuff. BBC makes great stuff. And I'm not talking about... Yeah. What?
Starting point is 02:27:04 What? You tell me. What? What? You tell me. Let's leave it out. What do you got, no jumper, dude? Yeah, what's going on? I don't have a jumper, no. BBC. British Broadcasting Company.
Starting point is 02:27:17 Oh, what's the other one? I don't know what you mean you're not talking about. What are you talking about? I was talking about the British Broadcasting Company. Yeah, but you said not the other BBC. Yeah, you got like real. That came out. You started acting real funny.
Starting point is 02:27:29 Yeah. Whenever you said real funny, whenever you said that. Yeah. I don't think that came out. Yeah, it did. Yeah. Well, I don't know. We don't know.
Starting point is 02:27:38 Spit it out. Let's go. Let's talk about something else. That no jumper was good. I don't know if that got enough. Yeah, it was. It's pretty deep. Pretty deep. Deep cut. Good internet good. I don't know if that got enough. Yeah, it was. It's pretty deep. Pretty deep.
Starting point is 02:27:46 Deep cut. Good internetting. I'm just kind of doing my thing. Keep it moving. But we know, Tone, we're adults. Yep. Yeah, you don't have to further explain what you meant when we're talking about the British broadcasting, which I don't fully understand.
Starting point is 02:28:00 Do they produce everything out of England? I think a lot of their big shows, yeah, or at least are on BBC. It's like PBS. Oh, it's big. Yeah, it's like PBS, but it's also like the equivalent of HBO. But our PBS kind of crop, right now? Yes. Very small.
Starting point is 02:28:17 Kind of crop. Thought it was done. Very much. The BBC, though, very big. Yes. Humongous. Still. And sometimes still crop on the BBC at times.
Starting point is 02:28:28 Well, I think there's a lot of crop everywhere. Got to get out. Let's talk. This is happening on a very frequent basis, it feels like. Much more rapidly than I could have predicted if I was to say, hey, we're going to do sports coverage every single day. Another NFL running back, ex-NFL player, has passed away at a very, very, very young age.
Starting point is 02:28:51 Alex Collins, who was an electrifying running back, who obviously we remember his dreads, but we remember him flying around, not only for the Seahawks, I think the Vikings and a couple other teams as well. He died Sunday night, I believe, 10.20 p.m. They're saying he was in a left lane, somebody was in a right lane, or somebody was driving towards him, makes a turn. He ends up hitting the back right passenger side door of this car on his motorcycle,
Starting point is 02:29:19 ends up going through the window of the car, and then passing away in the backseat, pretty much, is what ended up happening. Just another reminder about putting life in perspective. Like, hey, anything can fucking happen. This guy was beloved by everybody, seemingly, on the internet. Obviously, we didn't talk about him nearly enough in the grand stage of football and everything like that
Starting point is 02:29:42 because of his career. But incredibly sad. We lost another NFL guy. Another reminder that shit's real out here. Let's be safe. We can't have more people passing away way too early like Alex Collins just did on Sunday. The NFL world
Starting point is 02:29:57 has been doing this type of thing way too much, it seems like, as of late. And we need it to stop. Actually need it to stop. So rest in peace to Alex Collins. To everybody out in Hawaii battling through the Maui fire aftermath, nothing but positive T's and P's. I believe there's numerous ways to help out over there. I think as that kind of gets sorted, we will obviously lend a hand there
Starting point is 02:30:21 because of how much appreciation we have for the entire state of Hawaii and then also back in Plum where a house exploded my hometown our hometown uh where five people have been pronounced dead numerous other damages have taken place it's like there's a lot of shit happening around the world right now in our world that kind of puts things in perspective let's remember how lucky we are to be alive let's appreciate and enjoy it as much as we possibly can. And also remember, like, there's real shit out there that can happen. So maybe put the petty stuff aside, you know, the dumb stuff. Let's go ahead and just remember that it's not really important, especially when something massive happens and it kind of gets thrust in our face.
Starting point is 02:31:00 So let's enjoy this life. Let's try to and let's keep moving forward, shall we all. Thank you all so much for rocking with us today. We can't thank you enough. Big shout out. Big shout to D'Amico Ryans and Stoner for joining us on this beautiful Tuesday. Tonight Hard Knocks. Can't wait to see how that is
Starting point is 02:31:17 portrayed. AJ, anything else we should be watching? I don't know. Do they have that One Jets Drive thing going on for the Jets? They were following Aaron. Has that been Aaron as well? I don't know. Is that on their social?
Starting point is 02:31:30 I'm not sure. Like Jets YouTube or something? Yeah. I saw a preview for it before Hard Knocks. They did an interview with him when he was out in Tahoe, I believe. I thought they were doing their own little version of Hard Knocks, but I haven't checked their website or their Twitter. I saw the clip.
Starting point is 02:31:43 He looks real cool. He was with Miles Teller. Is that what you're talking about? I don't know if he was with Miles, but they interviewed him sitting down, I think, on Wednesday in Tahoe after his practice round or whatever. Yeah, and then I think he was golfing with Miles that day. They were
Starting point is 02:31:57 interviewing him during that day in that video that I seen. I thought that was going to be multiple videos. Like, hey, we're going to continue to follow the team like this. Yeah, I wonder what the agreement is between the New York Jets social and digital with Hard Knocks. Because I think that one Jets drive is, I think it's done very well. I think they invest like a lot of money.
Starting point is 02:32:20 And they got a lot of access. Yeah, smart. Lions did one last year as well they should promote hard knocks uh one lion's drive yeah it's called uh inside the den they do a really good job one jet drive episode two is out right now or whatever okay let's make this aj come on it's going in oh man we don't want that one it's hard to read it's hard to well you're sitting down too that's Jay? Come on. It's going in. Oh, man. We don't want that one.
Starting point is 02:32:46 It's hard to read. It's hard to get. Well, you're sitting down, too. That's kind of hard sitting down. It's tough, yeah. I'm trying to think of things that we can do, you know, this fall that'll spice up the whole giveaway thing. Get some of those, like, exploding targets.
Starting point is 02:32:58 You could throw the ball and boom, they blow up when you hit them. Yeah, or... I'm trying to blow up the building. Tannerite. Tannerite. Tannerite. Tannerite. Tannerite.
Starting point is 02:33:03 Tannerite. Tannerite. Tannerite. Could also get one of those nets they put in the corner like that they used for the Jets at the end of the last episode and just put them on the wall.
Starting point is 02:33:11 Oh, flick of the wrist. Oh! Oh, there he is. Told you. Good hit. Told you. That was a good hit. Happy birthday, Trent.
Starting point is 02:33:18 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I thought there was a chance that, uh, I thought there was a chance I was never going to make that. So that was going to take us to three. Here we are. After one miss, I was never going to make that. So that was going to take us to three. Here we are.
Starting point is 02:33:27 After one miss. The universe just told. No, yesterday I had a couple of these too. That was because. Because what? What is this code he is speaking? I don't know. He's had quite a day.
Starting point is 02:33:40 Tom can't even talk anymore. Are you scared? Why? Would he apologize today? Would he be any remorse today? Yeah, did you apologize at all? You haven't. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 02:33:53 That's what I thought. Of course. That 70s party looked real cool. Yeah, you didn't invite any of the boys. Yeah, thanks for the invite, you fucking prick. Okay. Every single... I wish I had a recorder when I verbally invited everybody and the hatred that came to me for even inviting certain people.
Starting point is 02:34:11 What? That's not true. What? I'm not coming. There's no chance. Yeah, right. I'm never going. That does sound like Connor.
Starting point is 02:34:17 Oh. I would never say that. I would actually go. I have nothing to do ever. Why wouldn't I be the one going? You were at Phil's golf event. Yeah, Phil – we didn't know that. We found out about that on Tuesday? We're at Phil's golf event. We didn't know that. We found out about that on Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:34:28 Yeah, we didn't know. Come on. What are you even talking about? You guys are always welcome. I'd love to have you. Okay, so what's next year? Many people asked about you, everybody, too. What time?
Starting point is 02:34:36 What's the bit next year? What's the gimmick? Well, actually, it might be changed to a different time of year next year. We're trying to figure that out. Perfect. Oh, so it's not as hot? Possibly, yeah. Well, and just different things.
Starting point is 02:34:48 It was our 12th year, so we're always trying to switch things up and change it. Evolve. Make it better. Make it bigger. Make more lives better with this fundraiser, this cult thing we got going on. Thank you, my ad. Weekend after the draft. Yeah, is it going to be cold?
Starting point is 02:35:01 Is that what you're thinking? Because that's tough football season. We're not going to be able to. No, I don't know. End of April. We'll see. We're always brainstorming. What's next year going to be cold? Is that what you're thinking? Because that's tough football season. We're not going to be able to. No, I don't know. We'll see. We're always brainstorming. What's next year going to be, though? This year was 70s.
Starting point is 02:35:11 I don't know. Honestly, we're always trying to come up with new themes. I would have loved the 70s. Somebody said alien theme possibly at some point. I was like, I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, I guess that would be good. What do you think Bobby Carpenter is dressing up as?
Starting point is 02:35:23 He's just coming fully nude. I'm the human. I just got probed. I'm the alien from planet Earth. I just got probed. How about him put this on a podcast, Ryan? Oh my gosh, yeah. God, he's the best.
Starting point is 02:35:40 He's the best, dude. What's up on podcasts? Hooked on a feeling, playing in the back. Did you guys do your body fat percentage measurements right before this party or after? No, we did not. But Bob was coming. He came straight from the Bahamas on a four-day birthday week he had come from. He came back a little bit early for the event, so I really appreciate Bob coming.
Starting point is 02:36:01 He came, and Bobby is a great hype man for any event you were ever at. Yeah, Bob, you know, it feels like he only has one speed and I think that's why I appreciate being around him because it's like, hey, this guy's going to bring energy. Yeah, I know what you're getting from Carpenter. I'm not with him every single day. I wish I was. I don't know how I would survive
Starting point is 02:36:20 with the amount of energy being, you know, dumped into my life from General Bob. Every time I'm around him, I love him. I fucking love him. It's a weapon. Weapon. This year he's doing top five all year. I can't wait for that.
Starting point is 02:36:32 I cannot wait for that, AJ. Top five, whatever he thinks is top five of just college football or what? Yes. Bobby Carpenter's brain, the General's top five. What's he going to do with Ohio State? That's the first question I have. He has a local radio show that is Buckeye driven. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:50 6 to 10 a.m., right? That's four hours of talking Ohio State, right? Yeah, maybe 6 to 9 now, but yeah, five days a week, yeah, every morning. Unreal. He's been doing that like 10 years now. For real. Those morning show people Good on ya
Starting point is 02:37:07 Good on ya Hey what time do you wake up? 3.45 is the first alarm For what? My show's at 6am? Oh my god Whoa Oh my god so you gotta go to bed at what time? Yeah about 9, 8 o'clock Oh no he's not doing that
Starting point is 02:37:22 He will not shut a good time down because he has a show where he'll work out in the morning. He will ride that right into it. He takes absolute pride in being that person still at age 40 to be able to do that. Well, hey, he's different. Hats off to him. But, yeah, I believe this is what he would show up as if he was showing up to the alien party. He would just be the human alien.
Starting point is 02:37:45 Hey, this is me. Hey, I'm representing the planet of earth check it out remember when this is what we sent out into the sky yeah and we're like can we not make the dong way bigger a little bit and then also upper body like bbc way more jaw a little strapped let's go let's get this let's let these people know that if you come down here, you got problems potential. Right. Bingo. Instead, it seems like they're all this big. How do they? I think we'll be able to just wash them. There's got to be some big ones out there, right?
Starting point is 02:38:14 There's got to be some big aliens out there. The one in Vegas allegedly was freaking huge. Oh, the one that was hiding behind the forklift or whatever? No, not that. That wasn't real. Hold on. Hold on. Did they say that was a fraud? Somebody gave me an answer. I forget who I was talking to.
Starting point is 02:38:30 Maybe my brother. Yeah, I was talking to my brother. He had one of the greatest answers I've heard in a long time. Okay. I said, Jay, what do you think about all this fucking alien shit that's happening? He goes, so they get all the way here, and then they just crash in the middle of the desert. That's what we're thinking they're able to get what millions of miles is what they say and then all of a sudden
Starting point is 02:38:50 oh planet earth too scary oh we crash into planet earth there's like billions of things that they could have hit on their way here through space trash and junk and who knows what else but then they get close to planet Earth and we're down. He was like, you think that's what happens for real? I'm like, Jay, maybe. They don't know gravity. They don't know how to deal
Starting point is 02:39:16 with cell phone types. That's a great rational question by Jay. I laughed very hard when he asked the question. I'm like, I never thought of it that way. You're right. Maybe we shot him down. Hell yeah. Well, in Vegas, too, there's a lot to, you know,
Starting point is 02:39:28 someone might have drawn their eye while they're flying. They're not paying attention. That doesn't make sense. Especially the sphere. I know what you're talking about, but the sphere. Well, what do you think he was talking about? You know what he was talking about. No, a ton.
Starting point is 02:39:39 Yeah. Tell ahead. Fucking what? 8,008. What? Calculator trick. Of course. This guy's batting 1,000.
Starting point is 02:39:52 Batting 1,000. I know him. You know him too. Bang! Oh! Robbed. Around the world. That's what they were looking at in Vegas. That is.
Starting point is 02:40:07 Uh-oh. Uh-oh. For the alien in Vegas. Nice. Oh, the back rim. AJ, are you sorry for not inviting the Du Bois to your little hippie 70s party? I'm sorry that they were not there, yes. I like the way you apologize.
Starting point is 02:40:26 I don't. They would have brought a lot of juice Believe me That one's got to be made earlier She made the football toss Oh yeah it's two makes today Holy fuck I'm doing it What a show It's amazing how quickly you change They let you know that
Starting point is 02:40:43 I'm not willing to change my I'm not willing to change my – I'm not scared to change my opinion on things with new pieces of evidence. I completely forgot that that football went in that hole just a couple minutes ago. And once I was reminded of that, we did it today. Stoner, we gave $250,000 to Cure for the Kids Foundation over there in Vegas. Hospital, hopefully making lives better. Shout-out to the Vegas Golden Knights. They go back to back. We'll get $500,000 next year.
Starting point is 02:41:07 You made the head coach of the Texans late helping the Colts in the second hour or two. Yeah, we did that as a team. I don't necessarily want all the credit or the blame for that particular one, but hey, it was a good conversation with him. Well, I figured the Patriots part was destroying C.J. Stroud. What else did we talk about? We talked about Dalvin Cook
Starting point is 02:41:23 going to the Jets. What a wild time. And then we also, you weren't here for this, AJ? Connor, we started a show. Hey, happy Zeke's in New England. He goes, yeah, I thought we were getting Dalvin, but Zeke's Zeke, I guess. That's what he said, AJ. I saw something. I didn't see that for a bit.
Starting point is 02:41:38 I think, Connor, I think you're going to be surprised. I think you're going to really like Zeke. I think Zeke is going to be in shape and have a little chip on his shoulder. Yeah, no doubt about it. I think he's going to be great for New England, but we can't act like Zeke and Dalvin Cook are the same player. No. We just can't.
Starting point is 02:41:52 Yeah, one of them's on the Jets, and one of them's on your team. And one of them has rushed for 1,100 yards, I think 1,500 scrimmage yards every year for the last three years, and one of them hasn't. And one of them's a Patriot. And one of them's a Jet. All right, well, congrats to you both. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:42:07 I'm happy for us both. It wasn't really breaking news, but Tone Rich is officially the starter for the Indianapolis Colts. Yep. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I thought, dude, I didn't hear what you said there. I thought the starter, I thought you were saying the Indianapolis 500,
Starting point is 02:42:28 tone rich. I thought that was a country musician. Yeah, I did for a second. I did not. Big and rich. Geez Louise, I apologize for not exactly picking up what you put down right there. We've got to get that better by the time we get into the big leagues or whatever. Yeah, what was going through your head when you said, yeah? We got to get that better by the time we get into the big leagues or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:45 What was going through your head when you said, yeah? Well, because I was just excited to see where we were going. I was pumped to hear where we were headed with that one. Because I just assume the brain will catch up. So I'm going to give an answer. It's just like in Jeopardy. Like if there's a subject that I think I know, I'm hitting that thing and then letting my brain figure it out
Starting point is 02:43:06 after the thing's already picked. You know what I mean? For Wheel of Fortune, I am leading with the answer to that thing long before. I let the brain just catch. I have faith that it'll catch up. That one, though, tone rich. Who? Whoa.
Starting point is 02:43:19 I couldn't piece it together. Tone rich. Anthony Richardson. Is who you're talking about? Yeah. You're talking about the rapper? The man that I saw come out of a gas station? More specifically, a marathon gas station in college?
Starting point is 02:43:31 And put it down while sitting on top of a car with the boys out there? Drinking some incredibly refreshing-looking juice? This is the guy. Clean. Clean. I think he's on a Mustang, Chevy. Is that Sings? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:43:47 That's the guy. Shout out. He put him on a rap game. I think he just said he's got ice in his veins. Fucking kill you. See ya. That's a bro code. I'm done.
Starting point is 02:43:55 You're done. We're done. Yeah. And then here, I think he says something about not eating peas. And he's a saint on the field. Shout out, Drew Brees. That's an actual bar in there. Bars. Love he's a saint on the field. Shout out Drew Brees. That's actual bar in there. Love this guy.
Starting point is 02:44:08 That is Sings. Yeah, that's Sings gas station. Down here in Indy? Yeah, that's the same one. Oh, I remember that guy. You guys used to talk about him a lot. Mr. Singh? Mr. Singh helped us out a lot.
Starting point is 02:44:18 I don't know if that's Mr. Singh's, but I do know that that guy's our starting quarterback. We knew that guy was going to be our starting quarterback when Jim Hersey said, he's going to play. That's literally all he said. But I'm excited for the potential of what this guy could be. You know, AJ?
Starting point is 02:44:32 How could you not be? I mean, just physically, obviously, what he can do. But he made some nice throws there that give you plenty of hope, I think. Yeah, in the pick. All right. Hey, Bob. I cannot imagine how bad you're swimming as a quarterback in your first preseason game. I know any position how tough it is early on, but as a quarterback, that's got to be brutal.
Starting point is 02:44:50 And just to add on here, the amount of arm talent he has is going to get him into some shit. For sure. You know what I mean? He's going to have to learn what's reality and what's not. Because the pick that he throws, like, in his head, oh, I can fucking – You'll thread this. I can throw that.
Starting point is 02:45:09 You know what I mean? Like, I think he thinks that just a flick of the wrist, actually I can put the ball all over the place, which he can, which is very good news for whenever he gets fully developed and understands everything he wants to do. But I think it's also going to affect him a little bit when he thinks he can do something that he can't because of how incredibly athletically gifted he is,
Starting point is 02:45:28 both with his legs and his arm. But he ran a guy over. He completed some balls. He looked like a professional. Yes, he threw a pick. Shit happens, but nothing happened in that game that made me think anything differently. This dude's a guy.
Starting point is 02:45:41 This is a guy. I like that receiver should have ran curl on that on that top of that route which one in this play uh the pick route when he threw the pick oh okay you think it was supposed to be a little bit of uh rubby it should have been a comeback dano did say that yesterday it says full team breakdown that wasn't just he backing up that's the goddamn receipt six you're saying yeah look you don't run a comeback fade what the fuck is he doing yeah i think that's six yeah up top yeah you're saying? Yeah, look, you don't run a comeback fading. What the fuck is he doing? Yeah, I think that's Pierce. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:06 Up top, yeah. You're talking about the guy on the outside? Yeah, at the top. Yeah, Pierce. Pierce right there. He looked like he was stalk blocking or something, didn't he? Did he think it was a screen or something? Ball was supposed to go quick, probably.
Starting point is 02:46:17 Bam. Yeah. He's not running a route. He was going to block. He can't block. I know. He should be running curl. Look how he's running out, though.
Starting point is 02:46:24 If you see it early on, I mean, it doesn't really matter. Look at him. He looks like he's stalking. Look how he's running out, though. If you see it early on, it doesn't really matter. He's stalking almost all of them. He's going, oh, fuck. Sam McKenzie, he'll be complete. First drive. That's pretty good to me. You can nitpick it, but he played pretty good. He ran a guy over, too, which I liked.
Starting point is 02:46:40 I'm a big fan. I like that he has a rap song out. People are going to say, is the song good? I'm like big fan. I like that he has a rap song out. People are going to say is the song good? I'm like, yeah. The song is good. Also, the fact that he went in there and recorded it and shot a music video, I like everything about that. I like that his mentality
Starting point is 02:46:56 is like, yep, I'm going to go record this and follow up. We are shooting a fucking music video to this. I just like the cut of this guy's gym. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. How could you not? I love him. I'm thankful for him. Let's I just like the cut of this guy's gym. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. How could you not? I love him. I'm thankful for him.
Starting point is 02:47:07 Let's win the Super Bowl, A.R. Let's go. I can't wait to hear. I don't want to tackle him. I don't want to be one-on-one with that dude in the open field. Nobody does. That's why we're winning the Super Bowl and you guys aren't. We'll see.
Starting point is 02:47:18 We'll be back on the other side to see if I still believe that. I don't know if you heard the bet yesterday with Kirk Herbstreit. We're still trying to piece it together. Still trying to piece the bet together. But he's saying over-under for Ohio State Buckeyes, 11. And then for the West Virginia Mountaineers, 6.
Starting point is 02:47:35 We have to get to a bowl game. 5.5 is the over-under. His is 11 for Ohio State, so that would be a playoff win, I think, is what he would have to do. West Virginia's going to the college football playoffs. I think it's a good bet for me in this particular thing. Have you changed your thoughts on West Virginia at all since you've been gone?
Starting point is 02:47:52 I mean, maybe a little bit. I didn't really give them much thought of making the college football playoffs, but maybe if they start out hot, they might be able to do it. They're beating Penn State in Happy Valley Week 1. Book it. There's a trap game coming, though. If they can buy that trap game, they'll be all right. Duquesne?
Starting point is 02:48:07 That's right. Yeah, Duquesne. I'm a little scared of Duquesne. Every game's a trap game when you can lose every one. That's kind of the thing with West Virginia this year. Not going to happen. Have you been there? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:22 How do you feel about it? Have you seen it? Have you felt it? I feel that we're going to win over six games. Hell yeah. Okay. There we go. I think it might be a good week, too, I think.
Starting point is 02:48:31 I was reading up on the Dukes, and they were picked to finish second in their conference, and any time that's just not a good sign. So you guys think, all right, Duquesne sucks. Second's not bad. What do you mean? They're normally picked to win it. So it's down here for the Duquesne Dukes by week two.
Starting point is 02:48:46 What conference is that? The NEC, the Northeast. That's right. Just like the SEC. That's right. You Ohio State people really live in your high horse. Did you know? Did you know the conference?
Starting point is 02:48:59 Yes. I played on that field. I bled on that field. What? I sweat on that field. What? Not for the Dukes. Just as a youth in Pittsburgh to play soccer.
Starting point is 02:49:08 For yourself. You know what I mean? I knew all about it. I knew all about it. For Herbie, you're allowed to Ohio State. They play 12 regular seasons. They're allowed to lose one regular season. Well, then that would be a push.
Starting point is 02:49:21 That wouldn't be a win. Does bowl game, that doesn't count? Is 12 and 1? No, yeah. They could win a bowl game. They would have to win a playoff. Oh, so not a bowl game. Only playoff counts. Well, that is there, right?
Starting point is 02:49:33 Well, they would still go to like a Sugar Bowl or a game that's not a college football playoff. If they're 11-1, though, they're probably making the playoff. I'd assume. Yeah. When's it get next year? They take eight. Is that right? Yeah, 2024.
Starting point is 02:49:47 Not this year. If it's Bama, Georgia, and, you know, one of them loses the SEC championship. Swag. All right. Let's get out of here. It's a good day. You want that bet? 11?
Starting point is 02:50:00 Yeah, I'll take the over. All right. Sick. All right. So we got to get to a bowl game. Let's go. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Hey, Neil, come on. I think I would take the over. All right, sick. All right, so we got to get to a bowl game. Let's go. Hell yeah. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:50:06 Hey, Neil, come on. I think I would take the over in West Virginia. What is it, five or five and a half? Five and a half. Don't be a mark. I'll let you know. I'll think about it. You just threw yourself out there.
Starting point is 02:50:17 I said you'd take it, and then now you're... No, no, I'd like to at least... I got to do some homework. I got to do some research. I don't want to just throw my opinion. I'd like to at least have some evidence to back up my opinion. I appreciate that. Garrett Green's quarterback. That's all you need to know. The guy is a dog.
Starting point is 02:50:28 He can move. He can throw. He's got good moxie. He's ready for the moment. He wants to sing Country Roads up there in Happy Valley. Could you imagine West Virginia goes into Penn State and wins that weekend after all the shit we've been talking about? I'm damn near willing to bet my life that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 02:50:45 Honestly, you never know. Damn near willing to bet my life that doesn't happen. Yeah. Honestly, you never know. Damn near willing. The expectations are very high at Happy Valley this year. Let's get to a break. We saw that big son of a bitch they had behind Sean Clifford. That kid is 6'8". That don't matter, bro.
Starting point is 02:50:59 We're chopping wood. Okay. We're chopping. Number one out of high school. That's cute. Really? Where's he from? Drew Law. I don't know where of high school. Number one out of high school. That's cute. Really? Where's he from? I don't know where he's from. Ohio, I think.
Starting point is 02:51:10 He's an Ohio guy. He's 19 years old. Actually, that's what AQ sent me this guy's bio whenever I put that tweet up. He's from Medina. He said, good luck. He's Ohio fuck, pretty much, who is supposed to be the next one. It's like, well, how do you end up at Penn State then?
Starting point is 02:51:25 True. How do you end up at Penn State? They're like, well, he's starting very, very, very young. He is going to be starting, and he's going to be the game changer, they're saying, for James Franklin as a whole. Like, hey, when Penn State, those games that they don't win, he's going to be the guy that's going to put them over the hump and win those games.
Starting point is 02:51:42 That's the expectation on this Ohio quarterback that's young. Don't let the Mountaineers get hot. Don't let them fool you. Don't let the Mountaineers get hot. Week one. And then AQ sent up a follow-up. I think it was like the sizes of who's where. Of course.
Starting point is 02:51:59 And then the things it's like, we've been hearing that for how many years? Right. Back when we were in the Big East, that's all anybody was saying. Look at him get off the bus. Okay, the game ain't played walking off the bus. No, it's not. You guys were good then, though. Yeah, we're good now.
Starting point is 02:52:14 Really? We're going to find out. Yeah, we are. We are going to find out. These kids are getting paid now. They better be good. These kids better be good. Yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:24 Under 5.5 is minus 190, just so you know the odds that we're working with here. Vegas ain't never liked us anyway. You guys are listening to the Herbs. Did you hear Herbie? Yeah. He started laughing yesterday. Loss. Loss.
Starting point is 02:52:38 Loss. Loss. 1-5. 2-5. Nah. Toss-up coin flip. Sure, we'll give it to you three and five three and six that's what he was doing yesterday looking down his schedule houston lost texas a&m lost sorry
Starting point is 02:52:53 texas tech lost he started he started doing texas what do you do you know anything about these teams kirk what are we talking about right you're throwing us you don't know penn state we don't even know the kids starting yeah. Kirk doesn't know. No, Kirk has no idea. How could he know? West Virginia here. Can we pull this? 20 and a half.
Starting point is 02:53:14 It's up to 20. We're definitely taking that 20. Okay, I like this. What is this from? You got to take a money line. That is, I believe that's Vegas. If I recognize that betting side, I believe it's Vegas. Yeah, I'm right.
Starting point is 02:53:26 We like that, right? I mean, we like all the books being there. Oh, yeah, that's great. This is where all the shops probably shop, right? Oh, there you go. There's some value. Oh, the shop shop. Is it Vegas odds.com?
Starting point is 02:53:37 Yeah. Plus 860 money line there. So that's money line plus 860? Is that Fandor or DraftKings? Which one is that? That's where it's throwing a little bit of money on there, right? Yes! What are you talking about? They're beating the Penn State Nittany Lions in Happy Valley.
Starting point is 02:53:53 You want DraftKings because they're higher, actually. Plus 900. Oh, so that's... Yeah, they highlight the best odds that you can find. Well, thank you, DK. We will certainly do that one. Plus 900. Okay, let's go back to the spread.
Starting point is 02:54:05 Let's go back to the spread now that we know what the fuck we're looking at. Everybody's at 20 and a half pretty much. I don't know what the fuck UDOT is. 17 right there. I don't know what the fuck UDOT is. Whatever UDOT is. That's not a real company. They're going to be out of business.
Starting point is 02:54:15 They somehow got a license because they know the right politicians. Minus 105, though, for that 20 and a half. Yeah, the juice. Get the juice. Yeah. Penn State, what? What's Penn State minus 34 and a half? They're not being the juice yeah penn state what what's penn state minus 34 and a half they're not oh five touchdowns i'm just saying they're not being this by 20
Starting point is 02:54:30 quarterback no we got one too but no without it he was not our starter last year full season his first season full time is our starter. But Garrett Green's built different. You know what I mean? Not this guy from Medina. Where's that at? North East Ohio? It's a hardcore. Dogs up there or what?
Starting point is 02:54:54 Closer to Cleveland. Oh, yeah. Some studs. Hardcore hood. Big-time wrestlers up there. Tough people. Tough some bitch. Wrestlers that they feed into every program in the goddamn country.
Starting point is 02:55:05 Really? Yeah. Even the rings that you might not see in the open. What? Someone that we just talked to. Once again, referencing this. Is that where he's from? Yeah, I believe so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:55:21 I believe he's also a Medina product, yes. Let's get out of here. West Virginia's fucking... The guy's from Pennsylvania that you're talking about, by the way. Real close to you, where you grew up. No. He's a pumpkin. Ours.
Starting point is 02:55:34 Ours. Ours away. How many? Like 30 minutes? What? No, I think we potentially... You can tell by our physiques we maybe drank from the same waters at least once. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:55:44 At least one time. He's built like a Greek. Yeah. He can bend like a madman just talking to him and he's in a deep squat with his butt on the ground. So is Aaron still fully committed in body, like through the season?
Starting point is 02:56:00 Is his off-season workouts going to remain the same during the season? Have you chatted about that? That feels like a conversation you would actually have with somebody with how much you love that type of stuff. I would, but I have not asked them yet. I'd probably wait until we get through camp to see what that plan might be. So are we saying jocked all season? I can lay out some plans if you want.
Starting point is 02:56:19 Better. He's probably going to try to keep his tan all season. I know he got a nice deep tan when he was wherever he's traveling the world in the summer. I'm sure he's more worried about keeping that. Yeah, he did. He bought that glass house. It's like a greenhouse, basically. Man, a good tan is so good.
Starting point is 02:56:38 Yeah, you look a lot better when you are tan. Way better. Overrated. Speaking for whites or blacks? Sure. I don't know whites or blacks. Sure. I don't know. You tell me. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:56:46 Blacks don't like tans. You don't like getting any darker? Yeah. Can't be too dark. I don't want to be too dark. But obviously the contrast, like for a white person, that's why bodybuilders get sprayed because the contrast, the light hitting the angles and everything, it makes them look much better.
Starting point is 02:57:01 The angles. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Us whites definitely look better with a tan after being sun-kissed. Now, there is exceptions that are all shameless in the WWE. Sure. He glows.
Starting point is 02:57:13 He looks very good. Connor, on Monday, I believe, when we got back, if you do recall from the Jabba shot, he was brighter than that desk that Tone sits at. He looked great in there. But everybody else, so you're saying you don't want to get darker.
Starting point is 02:57:29 There are people that, there are black people that want to get darker or no? No. I don't think there's black people that want to get darker. Really? So like light-skinned people
Starting point is 02:57:36 who get in the sun and get darker. You're saying they do not want... You're saying, are we talking about the more light-skinned? Yeah, they probably do want to get in the sun my compilation no yeah but hold on within the black community the light skin and dark skin there is a lot of shit talk amongst the two yes
Starting point is 02:57:56 for sure a lot yeah i've heard some heavy shots being sent from a probably the darkest skinned human I've ever seen to a light skinned gentleman that I thought the light skinned gentleman was potentially going to go home and kill themselves immediately afterwards. That is a real thing. Okay, got it. The response though was obviously
Starting point is 02:58:19 great. I just stayed out of that one. That was a good one for me to stay out of. What do you think about the super light skinned? You albino fucks get out of here you look terrible we all agree that you guys look terrible you gotta move on i didn't know that though i didn't know that you're not trying because obviously because like darius butler for instance very dark he don't want to get no blacker but he does though oh Yeah, but he had the blackest of the black. Yeah, he is. D-Butt is black as hell. Yeah, let's call it D-Butt.
Starting point is 02:58:50 He can't get no blacker. Yeah, but D-Butt's out in the sun like this. I almost look like D-Butt. You can make it to D-Butt? I don't know if I can make it to D-Butt. I think you can make it to D-Butt. You're crazy as hell. Can you make it to D-Butt?
Starting point is 02:59:02 Oh, no. D-Butt is a different kind of black. I've told D-Bud a couple different times that I'm getting into a tanning bed or something. I'm trying to get to you, Larry, whatever. And then he'll just send a photo back. And he somehow has gotten darker because he's down there in Florida getting cooked. That dude, he doesn't feel heat. Nope.
Starting point is 02:59:21 Nah. He doesn't feel heat at all. It's an advantage. Yeah, I'd say. He is, we're calling him right now. He's probably on a golf course. No answer. Fuck him.
Starting point is 02:59:34 All right. See you, D-Bud. We had some real answers we needed. Yeah. This conversation is never going to happen again. Nope. Well, maybe. Let's put a pin in it.
Starting point is 02:59:42 Okay. We'll circle back. We'll be back. But I think we did learn stuff, though. Black people do get darker. Nope. Well, maybe. Let's put a pin in it. But I think we did learn stuff, though. Black people do get darker. Not everybody's trying to get darker. Correct. So you're a big sunscreen guy?
Starting point is 02:59:54 Yeah. What SPF? Like 30? 50? Always a hit. 100? What's the SPF? 50? Oh, so we're not trying to get any sun at all. Love it. Not at all. Okay.
Starting point is 03:00:10 And then when that winter coat pops, whoo, looking good. What do you mean? When you ain't getting no sun in the wintertime. Oh, so you guys, the winter is good. Yeah. Oh, my God. For us, the winter is like, fuck, I'm about to be the palest dude in time for the next. That is interesting. The wintertime, we get our complacent back.
Starting point is 03:00:27 We get fat. Yeah. Awesome. Super pale. Super pale. All in on that. And then the first time the sun comes back, we get red quick. Speaking of.
Starting point is 03:00:39 Looking good. AJ, have you seen the petition? Oh. I do not believe so. What does it have to do with? Let's put a pin in it. We'll be back tomorrow. Let's do it.
Starting point is 03:00:50 We don't know what we're allowed to say and what we're not allowed to say. We might have more updates on it tomorrow. Certain football team. Am I going to have to wait until tomorrow? Or am I going to be able to figure this out before? Here's the article. We didn't say it. I'm not reading it.
Starting point is 03:01:05 I knew about this okay commanders re are demanding that they reinstate it aj i don't know if you've got a chance to think about this or not we as the dumb whites who hate winner okay absolutely fucking hate winner we always assumed that the Native Americans were the ones that told us, hey, the name of this, terrible, like bad, bad. This is something that you've made our lives worse by shoving it in our face, like this whole thing. That's kind of how it was pitched to me.
Starting point is 03:01:41 I don't know if I'm just speaking for me and for us, but I think we're all kind of in the same world. So now we're seeing Native American group comes out and says, I thought, well, I'm kind of mind blown by it all. Don't know what to do, AJ. Honestly, don't know what to do. Yeah, what will they do, I guess? It's never going to be like 100% of a group, though,
Starting point is 03:02:03 wants the name back. There's always going to be give and take. I'm sure some people still don't want it in that crew. But I don't know. There's no way they're going back to it, are they? There's a chance. There's a chance. Has the new owner said anything?
Starting point is 03:02:15 He said a lot. He said the OG name. I know he's sitting front row and everything in preseason, but he wants to make sure the fans are there for him. He wants to be on their side. Sweet hat. I think what he said in his opening press conference was, if you look at the tradition
Starting point is 03:02:32 and the history of this franchise, and he says... The name. Okay. All right. All right. He said it in the opening press conference. So I feel like he said that knowing that this potentially already happening. And if you ask those fans,
Starting point is 03:02:48 just from my own case study of the away game here in Indianapolis, I think the fans would vote it back in pretty quickly. So if you're going to give them a reason now to vote it back in, seemingly with Native American, a Native American group being like,
Starting point is 03:03:04 let's do it go ahead i think it's gonna i i am a believer that it's gonna happen can they put up to a vote like legit have a vote put three or four names out there and see what happens next year they already did that yeah so that's dumb this is a different one stupid commanders you're saying this well yeah go ahead if you if you put a couple other names you would you could you could tell pretty quick somehow like, hey, do a lot of people want to go back to this name? I mean, that's the only way.
Starting point is 03:03:28 And once again, that would give them an excuse. Say, hey, a Native American group told us that they would like it back. Our fans voted, and it was overwhelmingly to do this again. And it's like, they could baby face their way out of it. But I don't know if those answers or those questions i mean stop like that would be wild could you imagine us back on this
Starting point is 03:03:50 yesterday though yeah absolutely sliced and diced scary terry had a full that could be coming here pretty soon because they're talking about changing the name after this upcoming season yeah like this it's crazy it's a wild development the nfl is always in the middle of some shit, it feels like. But in this particular case, I feel mind-blown because I thought it was the complete opposite is the reason why we had to stop. And then now it sounds like it's coming out and saying, we'll continue to go.
Starting point is 03:04:15 We'll have boots on the ground. We'll have boots on the ground. I can't believe Darius Butler didn't answer. He's golfing. Have you seen his family golf? Not just him. He's golfing. Yeah. Golfing. He's always golfing. You see his family golf? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:04:26 Not just him. He's got the whole family. They're out there every day. Right on Sunday. They're out there every single day golfing. Whole family. Yeah. Dang.
Starting point is 03:04:34 Doing it. He loves it. I've been watching his game. He needs to be out there every day. Every day. Dang. He looks sweet out there. He looks sweet.
Starting point is 03:04:46 At Zeke's wedding, he said it's coming together. I can't say anything because my fucking game needs a full rebuild. Okay? I need to head down to Home Depot, how doers get things done, and fucking buy everything they got to create a golf swing. Okay? That's where I am. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:00 So I'm not saying anything about anybody's anything. But Pac-Man said, who's the best golfer in the office the other day? Bruce. Foxy is probably the best golfer in the office. I suck too right now. We haven't had a round. Foxy shoots like 78, doesn't he? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 03:05:20 He's in the 80s. He's in the 80s. He's in the 80s. He doesn't get himself into trouble, though. He's in the 80s. I mean, what a hurt. He's in the 80s. He's in the 80s. He's in the 80s. He doesn't get himself into trouble, though. He's a good golfer. He is a good golfer. But it is a funny thing. Like, am I just going to be chasing this dragon for the rest of my life
Starting point is 03:05:33 and not know how to fucking play this sport? I mean, what do we— We don't play near enough. That's all it is. We've got to play so much more golf to even think that we're going to shoot good scores. Yeah, well, that and, too, I mean, you shouldn't be going to Home Depot. You should be going to Lowe's just to get the better product sometimes. But I think I've decided after the Phil Mendes Classic.
Starting point is 03:05:50 Oh, actually, you shouldn't be going either. You should be going to Menards, okay? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Safe hardware, baby. Tractor Supply. Tractor Supply is a good store. Yeah. It's like a Walmart.
Starting point is 03:05:59 It is nice. Golf carts, go-karts, mowers, all that. I drive by the front just to see the new vehicles they're selling. So we don't have to pivot out of that particular market, but like Cabela's and bass fishing stores, what a time. Right? Yeah. What a time, dude.
Starting point is 03:06:14 You kidding me? There's giant fish tanks that are 17 billion gallons with trout and bass and everything. Yeah, then I see old Cousy to Buffalo up there and like 45 of his friends fully stuffed on the wall. Who killed that uh jake did down there he had a fucking bow and arrow that's actually record buffalo dead shot it right through the heart from 250 yards out it's like you actually want to go sit in the
Starting point is 03:06:34 stand how far away he was to see what the shot is it's like it's a full experience in there i've i've i'm i love it they're usually connected to dick's sporting goods, too, so you could waste some good time in that. Let's do some follow-ups here from today, now that we're kind of catching a couple updates. The Toohey family claims Michael Warr attempted $15 million shakedown before court filing. This is getting ugly. It's getting ugly.
Starting point is 03:06:59 Anytime family or fake family kind of get on the rocks, there's a chance it's going to get ugly. Uh-huh. Feels like these two are going to have to put their swords aside at some point and come together. If it all revolves around money. All about the piper. Let's go ahead and figure that out.
Starting point is 03:07:15 That has to be figureoutable. Right? Especially if you own 135 Taco Bells. Yeah. Right. Which we think the Toohey family now does. Yes. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:07:24 Being a legend. They'll settle. They'll have to settle with him. They'll pay him. And also, let's get him back for Thanksgiving. Yeah. Which we think the Toohey family now does. Yes. Exactly. Being a legend. They'll settle. They'll have to settle with him. They'll pay him. And also, let's get him back for Thanksgiving. Yeah. Let's not just pay him and settle. Let's not burn bricks here.
Starting point is 03:07:32 Yeah. That's his parents, basically, right? Yeah. I mean. Get Big Mike back in the house. Exactly. What was the well? I mean, that's the whole thing.
Starting point is 03:07:41 They're not his parents. At all. Yeah. They were for how many years? Not by long. Kind of. For as many years as he was profitable for is what it's... Oh, jeez.
Starting point is 03:07:52 It does sound like what is... It's exactly what it is. Oh, you're retired? Exactly what it sounds like. All right, we'll continue to cover this all the way to tomorrow. Okay. If we don't learn anything new tomorrow, we're over it. All right.
Starting point is 03:08:03 There you go. Yeah, I like that. I think this is all going to start. Yeah, it's going to get ugly. Someone's going to hire Rusty Hardin in there probably too. Are they in Texas? It's going to take 18 months. We're not going to have any real updates for another six.
Starting point is 03:08:15 I think they're in Mississippi. They are in Mississippi. So if we know anything. I'd be a little speedy. Ole Miss. I'd be a little. I think it's the opposite in Mississippi. But I also thought it was Tennessee filing.
Starting point is 03:08:26 Okay. I don't know, but I do know we're in Alabama on September 8th. Amen. Hey, Alabama. 2023. On campus, I do believe. Come hang out with us. Why not?
Starting point is 03:08:39 I don't want to be alone in Alabama. No. Oh, never. I'm never alone with you guys, though. Hell yeah, brother. Bring a friend. Bring a couple friends. No, don't bring anybody that doesn't understand the show, though. That's a whole other thing.
Starting point is 03:08:50 You know? Calm, but like... It's easy to explain the show to people that don't really know the show or haven't seen it. It's really easy to explain kind of what it is. Nah, everybody's welcome. Come on. We'll have a good time. And you can leave if you don't want to be there. Bingo. Anybody can leave. Anytime they need to. We clipped a BBC talk earlier. Yeah. And you can leave if you don't want to be there. Bingo. Anybody can leave. Yeah. Anytime they need to. We clipped the BBC talk earlier.
Starting point is 03:09:08 We also had blob talk. Yeah, sucked up. Linebackers are getting sucked up today, too. Well, that's true about Dalvin Cook and signing the Jets with Bruce Hall back there. Aaron's going to be able to get those linebackers sucked up. Yeah, suck them all up. Any AJ.
Starting point is 03:09:23 Everybody's getting sucked. All of them. All right. That's getting sucked. All of them. All right, that's a good way to end it. We'll see you tomorrow. This has been the Pat McAfee Show. We don't know why you're watching, but we are very thankful that you do. All the boys crushed it today. Be a friend.
Starting point is 03:09:34 Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye.

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