The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 954 - Dalvin Cook Signs With The Jets, Texans Head Coach DeMeco Ryans, Mark Stone, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: August 15, 2023On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Dalvin Cook officially signing with the Jets, Zeke Elliott signing with the Pats, the amount of training camp fights that have be...en happening in joint practices, and everything else happening around the NFL. Joining the progrum is 2006 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, and now Head Coach of the Houston Texans, DeMeco Ryans to chat about the changes of being a first time Head Coach, changing the culture in Houston, his thoughts on his rookie class including CJ Stroud and Will Anderson, his mantra for the team this year, and more (1:25:39-1:48:55). Later, Stanley Cup Champion and Captain of the Las Vegas Golden Knights, Mark Stone joins the show to chat about his offseason, what he did the celebrate bringing Lord Stanley’s Cup to Las Vegas for the first time, how he’s feeling physically, where the donation from the show will be going as a result of winning the Cup, and a bet for next year as well (1:55:32-2:16:34). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Tuesday, August 15th, 2023.
This sports program starts right now.
Football!
It's happening. Obviously the NFL has already started its preseason and we're right around the corner from college football.
But today is a massive day because it seems like all across the NFL, joint practices are starting, which means fights are happening in every single one of them.
The Washington Commanders and the Baltimore Ravens are joint practicing.
Now, obviously, they are very near to each other, so this makes things very easy on the back end preseason-wise.
But one little ha-ha hangs up with a ha-ha.
This is what joint practices are honestly
this is what as a player i think we just expect out of all these now i know the talent evaluators
get an opportunity to look at two different rosters in bottom half of rosters that could
potentially need to fill or plug their roles and i know coaches are able to put situations
where ones versus ones this is going to be a contained environment where there won't be any fuckery
or any chance of anybody blowing an ACL.
So they get a chance to see good on good
for an extended period of time
as opposed to just a game that has situations
kind of present themselves.
We can present third and long with our ones.
We can bring in one-on-ones with our new rookie tackle
taking on somebody on the other side.
So coaches love it.
Scouts love it.
The fans love it.
Odell Beckham Jr. caught a deep ball from Lamar Jackson this morning
at that joint practice against the Washington Commanders.
Hold on.
There's news about that.
We're not going to dive into that to kick off the show.
Sure.
But there is, I'm not saying it.
No.
No, no.
But there is a.
You're going to be able to.
I think there's a petition with 90,000 people that have signed it from the Native American
Guardians Association, NAGA.
Obviously, we have never heard of that.
We did some research into
it i do believe there are uh native but also some uh whites are involved in this so obviously the
angle is going to be that the whites are trying to do this entire thing i'm not 100 sure all i
know is 90 000 signatures on a petition from a group that has Native American in it, is saying,
bring back,
bring it.
Hail to the,
they're saying,
we can say it now.
I thought,
I don't know if that's what this internet report is telling us.
Now,
I think it's very real.
Josh Harris, who's the new owner of uh
the uh washington team yeah i'll say it i'm he literally said it i know you will yeah i mean
there's a lot of people just like you i think that's all they said we're like oh yeah got so
this entire time and there is an entire argument to be said about like how if we continue to just
eliminate these things that reference the native americans there's a chance that there's going to come a time where people don't even fucking remember the importance of the Native Americans.
And you kind of forget the whole conversation around it if you eliminate it from the conversation.
Shout out to Michigan State.
You know, you can forget.
If you just try to silence everything, you potentially take something out of history forever if nobody hears about it.
Now, when I thought that originally, I was obviously just thinking to myself, yeah, but you're a racist white asshole.
So that's how you would view that, you know?
Right.
So we didn't maybe project that as publicly, but I did hear other people saying that and i believe that is what this thing also has in there like excuse me we would like to be remembered as a part of history because
this land is our land this land is not no your land anywhere no right that is that is kind of
i don't know what's happening but josh Harris, the new owner, in the first press conference being announced
as the new owner. Babyface.
Remember, this guy saved
his franchise.
Jim Irsay. Babyface
because he got the previous owner out. This guy, we got a new
guy. Magic Johnson's in here. Josh Harris is in here.
We're now a team that people are going to
respect and appreciate. We're going to be good and it's not
always going to be burning down. We love
Josh Harris. A fucking parade for this guy and then that first press conference he goes
look at the history i mean the tradition of the yes does it yep no my buddy are you
you allowed i don't know i don't know if you're are we i don't think you're allowed i don't think
he cared i don't think so either it's awesome but then there's a chance that old josh harris knew that this was potentially happening yes as he was investigating or researching a team that
he was potentially about to purchase for six seven billion dollars so there's maybe a chance that he
saw this on the horizon i will let everybody know that when the washington commanders that was their
name right played against the indianapolis colts in Indianapolis. The Washington football team, that was also their name,
had a lot of people in the stands.
Yeah.
A lot.
Travel well.
Very loud.
Great fan base.
Every single fan that I saw of that team,
they did not have a commander shirt on.
No, they didn't.
Still football team?
No, they didn't have the WFT on there either.
No, it was throwback Sunday.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, and every one of them.
I'm talking walk, you see a slew of pigs, you know,
because they do wear the –
The hog hats.
Yeah, the whole thing.
They're walking through every one of them.
I –
That ain't –
That ain't it.
They just don't have a merch store out here right you know this is just the
closest game yeah and then you turn the corner and there's a whole nother group you're like holy
shit any post wins at this game uh it's crazy oh no and it's all just by unless it was scary
terry mclaurin jerseys right it was the other uh josh harris said it, this happening. Feels like there's a lot of momentum towards this team being called the Washington...
We're not saying, okay.
I was just reading the room.
It's not a done deal.
It's not a done deal.
Yeah, so what happens here?
Don't put the carpet before the horse.
Like right now, there's people on the internet.
Say it to me right now.
Oh, yeah.
There's people calling me a big old bitch for not saying it right now. That's what's going on. People are saying that on the internet say it to me right oh yeah there's people calling me a big old bitch for not saying
that far that's what's going on people are saying that on the internet look at this big old bitch
he won't say he won't say why don't you say why why don't you say and it's like i honestly i i'm
only not saying it because like i assumed once again dumbass and it tanked up. I assumed that the Native American folks
were very pissed about this.
Right.
I assumed like, hey, our word is similar to, you know,
N-word or any other racial slur for any other race of people.
That's what I assumed,
because I think that's kind of how it was painted, right?
Yes.
Offensive.
So then when I wake up and see this, I'm like, well, what the fuck is going on here?
I assume they're going to have to get to the bottom of it a little bit more,
but all signs are saying they're changing their name,
the Washington Commanders, with his new ownership.
And I think that's a smart play.
And it feels like to take one step forward, you've got to take a couple decades.
If they do change it back, they can't change it.
They can't be made to change it again because of double jeopardy.
Bingo.
Oh, so you're saying I already tried this once. You lost.
You served your time.
You were terrible people. Obviously, you did this whole thing. Now it's back.
You're good forever.
You guys already came at me for this. You can't do it again.
Double jeopardy.
Interesting. I'm very fascinated by it for this. You can't do it again. Double jeopardy. Bring it back.
Interesting.
I'm very fascinated by it because I thought Native American people hated it.
Now, I don't have enough friends
in the Native American community.
That's what I also do.
I feel like I have friends in a lot of communities.
Damn near every single one of them.
It's a weapon of mine, actually,
getting a chance to hear
why everybody's potentially pissed
about whatever the fuck's going on.
That is a good weapon to have when you've got friends over.
I don't think I have any Native American friends,
so I just took that as gospel that that was it
because that's what was being reported.
NFL team had to change it.
Now seemingly not.
I'll be excited to see how that fucking pans out.
You know what I mean?
I'll be excited.
Anyways, Ravens are playing against the football team that is currently in the district's capital.
In the worst stadium in the NFL.
That needs to be renewed.
Anyways, Odell Beckham to Lamar Jackson.
I'm sorry, Lamar Jackson to Odell Beckham.
Could be the other way around, too, by the end of the year.
Drops one into bucket form.
He gets tackled.
The fans see that.
They're like, that's not just against the Baltimore Ravens
corners. This is going to work in the NFL.
This is going to work during a regular season.
Hope gets built during
these joint practices, and we also know
there's going to be scuffles. So congratulations
to the Washington football teams,
commanders teams, and
the Baltimore Ravens battling it out this
morning. Two fights already. Mark Andrews is in
one. Wide receiver and corner got another one.
Let's assume four to five more throughout all these,
and then we'll keep our eyes around the NFL and all these joint practices.
One half of the toxic table at Boston Corner is taking on, I believe,
the other half of the toxic table at Ty Schmidt in joint practices right now.
Packers in New England, New England in Green Bay.
New England in Green Bay.
Yep. Okay, so there's like one hotel there in Green Bay. New England in Green Bay. Yep.
Okay, so there's like one hotel there.
Remember, it's like an hour away.
Yeah.
So New England says, you know what?
Most inconvenient place to travel to during the season?
Will go.
Let's go for a week.
Yeah.
Let's go.
You know, we're comfortable when others are uncomfortable,
but that particular camp is going to get pretty rowdy, right?
A lot of things to prove on both sides of the ball there.
Yeah, a lot of young guys too, especially in those positions like you mentioned.
Although the DBs and the wide receivers are going to get after it,
we've got a lot of young linemen, a lot of unproven offensive, defensive linemen.
I'm assuming that the Packers also.
It's going to get ugly.
It's going to get violent.
That's a group that fights.
Like naturally, O-line, D-line violent. That's a group that fights. Like, naturally.
O-line, D-line fight.
That's actually a part of the position.
All you need is just one little extra,
and then all of a sudden,
what was that?
And then everybody in those particular groups is actually judged on not only if they get in the fight,
how they perform in the fight.
This is part of your job.
So whenever the O-line and D-line start
fighting, normally those ones get pretty
but, I will say the bigger fellows
understand energy too.
We're not wasting too much energy
in this heat. We've got to kind of balance it out.
But I think with teams that have a lot to prove,
that is obviously whenever it gets the
most ugly. One half of the hammer, done.
Cowboys turn digs this year. You look great.
Can't wait to dive into some numbers that you've been finding
that we can maybe profit and take advantage
of because the books might be sleeping.
A 14-year NFL
vet. A man who played corner
for the entirety of it. An absolute icon.
Pac-Man Jones is here.
Pac, obviously, we're talking about
NFL and we're talking about
fighting. So, I don't think
there is a better human to be joining
us than you.
You were a man that enjoyed mixing
it up. You've done some actual
fighting and boxing in your post career.
Still do that.
Was not scared at all to fight
somebody for Shaquille fucking O'Neal
in an airport while carrying some
Popeye's chicken. So like to throw
down. These joint practices guaranteed fight every single time, right?
And is that why players either love it or hate it?
How do you think most players feel about it?
I think players love it.
You know, there's always going to be somebody out there chirping,
like when we just seen that play.
You would have been the guy.
Yeah, that would have been me, the guy.
He called the ball.
I swiped his arm three times.
Then he pushed me down.
You know, I check him, you know, just a quick check,
you know, to let him know I'm there.
He probably checked me back, but nothing too big for that. Yeah, so like.
It's a normal day.
That's what I don't think everybody fully comprehends.
To you, that is a normal day.
But whenever you talk to somebody that has never been in the football world, they're
always like, well, that's illegal.
You're not allowed to do that.
Yeah.
It's a rule.
It's like, bro, these are humans.
They're tired.
And this is joint practice.
They're tired as fuck.
This is two weeks of living in hotel or dorms,
doing these practices, the scheduling,
kind of figuring it out.
So bodies are sore.
People are tired.
Jobs are on the line.
Hot as hell.
Yes.
Not everybody's going to have the most amount of coos.
Well, those coaches need to tell them boys
to keep it tight in between a whistle. You know what I mean? It's like, okay. Yeah, because some of those coaches, you know? No. Well, those coaches need to tell them boys to keep it tight in between a whistle.
You know what I mean?
It's like, okay.
Yeah, because some of those coaches,
they wish they could.
Oh, yeah.
They wish they could fight the other people.
And I don't want to say, like,
the culture is almost like has to have a fight.
It is.
But it has to.
It has.
If you don't have a fight,
fans should be worried about their team.
Yeah.
Like, that is a real,
if you do not get into a fight with another team,
somehow, throughout the entirety of a practice together, I think you should worry about your team. team yeah like that is a real if you do not get into a fight with another team somehow throughout
the entirety of a practice together i think you should worry about your team i think that means
when it gets cold i think when things get a little tough yeah i don't want to say ipso facto but
you don't got any fighters you need some fighters on your team i think if you're going to create a
winner in the nfl i'm glad you said that because i was and i'm glad this came out this morning
because last week i was like where are all the fucking fights at
in these joint practices?
It was too quiet.
I think it was maybe the first week of camp or whatever,
and everyone was still too happy.
I don't know, though.
This next generation, they might legitimately just be so intelligent.
No, the Bengals was popping off.
We're going to have about four or five fights.
The Bengals and the Packers, they got into a real good one.
The one we just seen, that was decent.
Apparently the Bills.
Yep.
Bills had a big one.
I mean, they still getting it in.
We need helmets off, swinging helmets.
Well, yeah, the Browns, Giants.
That's what I'm looking for.
Remember when it was Sterling Shepard versus DB?
That's what we need.
Do we have the Ravens fight?
Sorry, Mark Andrews fight.
There's a dude walking real close to the fight without a helmet.
Like, not dressed.
Do not do that.
Yeah, bingo.
Do not do that.
As I was watching the video, I was like, somebody needs to go hold that guy.
He wasn't even, like, paying attention.
He was, like, looking the other way.
He starts walking by past us.
Mark Andrews.
I think a guy gets a pick, and then Mark gets a little piss.
I saw Tucker put his helmet on real quick in one fight.
Oh, yes. Yeah, that is just, like, a known thing. I think a guy gets a pick and then Mark gets a little piss I saw Tucker put his helmet on real quick Oh yes
That is just like a known thing and also
You put your helmet on
As you're putting it on you gotta do that violently
He's on film
He's trying to mix it up
Here's another fight here from training camp
Mark Andrews we don't know what happened we can't see it
He was not happy this guy ended up with the ball though
Belly to back suplex
Nothing to see here I I'm walking away.
Everybody can fuck off.
Somebody said, what'd you just do to my fucking teammate?
Mark Andrews in the middle. There's the guy that just
walked by with no helmet. That guy needs to relax.
People at the Guardian, smart. I like that.
I probably would have done the same if I would have been
around a training camp practice, a joint one, knowing
a fight's coming. But that was a pretty good little scrap.
Started with a little W-W-E, ended
with a little pushy-shovey.
Call Chase Young.
The slam was really good.
He's a big-sounding bitch.
Yeah, but you know what I noticed from that video is look how big Baltimore is
and how small the Washington.
You know why he's mad, though?
What's that?
Because he took him down to the ground.
Yeah, and he picked him up.
You know we don't go down to the ground.
Oh, you're talking about Andrews was pissed?
Yeah.
Oh, that guy tripped him. Yeah, and then the ball came out. It wasn't a catch. Fuck you, kid. Yeah, boom. This isn't go down to the ground. Oh, you're talking about Andrews was pissed? Yeah. Oh, that guy tripped him.
Yeah, and then the ball came out.
It wasn't a catch.
Fuck you, kid.
Yeah, boom.
This isn't how the NFL does it.
All right, all right.
I enjoyed it.
He did not appreciate the fact that that guy was celebrating something
that he tripped me and the ball was not caught.
Okay, I like that.
Mark, let's have some standard.
When you're doing practices like this, you don't hit up.
You pull up right here.
You make sure he stay up because you don't want nobody to get hurt. Like, that's have some standards. Because in joint practices like this, you don't hit up. You pull up right here, you make sure he stay up
because you don't want nobody to get hurt.
That's a bad play by the corner right there.
It looked like they was in cover too just then.
Being able to practice is a big deal in the NFL.
Yeah.
Don't go to the ground.
You hear a lot of people say, stay up, stay up, stay up.
You have no idea what can happen on the fall.
What?
There could be something.
And then not even on the fall, like the mix-up before the fall.
Yeah, yeah.
So much shit happens in there.
I've seen a guy, I think he pulled his hamstring because legs got twisted
and ended up being in, like, a different place.
Obviously, the corner got cut immediately.
Right, on the spot.
It was an immediate, see you later.
You can't practice.
You're out of here.
And they tell you that.
They tell the younger guys, hey, look, we know you guys want to make the team,
but you're not going to make the team in here on Monday through Friday.
Only way you're going to make the team on here is on Saturday and Sunday.
Like, the main thing is to keep everybody up.
Like, you might have one period where you're thudding,
but you still ain't taking nobody down to the ground.
Yeah, and then you get these joint practices.
It's all hell and earth.
That guy seems to have a lot of moxie over here, huh?
Honey, I fucking hate that guy.
That's all you need is one guy.
All you need is one guy in a position.
So, like, if it's a linebacker, just internally sees the way somebody's operating.
I don't like the way that guy's going about doing his shit.
That's the one.
Two plays later, the whole team is fighting.
Get him.
Yeah, what happened?
How'd we get here?
I didn't like the way.
That guy's a piece of shit.
Did you see what he did to me after?
I don't like that.
So joint practices will bring that.
We think it's a good thing.
Now, and by good thing, it's like definitely going to happen.
There's no reason to get upset about it.
There are people, though, every single year that get really upset about stuff that happened in preseason.
I remember somebody who was supposed to be suspended.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
Aaron Donald.
That's right.
It was Aaron Donald.
Oh, yeah.
I forgot.
Ripping that guy's helmet off.
Took that guy's helmet off and tried to Miles Garrett him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And people were like, six games, eight games.
Get him out of here.
Enjoying practice.
Yeah.
And was like, don't know how to tell you this.
That happens.
This is actually the recipe
for a fucking fight.
So we just have to assume
that fights are going to happen now.
We do not like weapons being used.
No.
Okay, and if there's any folding chairs
around any of those joint practices,
okay, I think after the world
got a chance to see their abilities.
That's right.
Folding chairs.
Very recently.
Get those things out of there. People that maybe didn't
watch WWE growing up
or whatever, like, there's a
chance that people are
just learning about these folding chairs and what they're able to do
and we need to keep
asses in those when these fights start happening.
Bingo. Because there is a chance
that somebody rips somebody's helmet off
and hits them in the head with it.
That's happened live in-game primetime.
That has happened certainly in practice.
Aaron Donner was the guy that they almost kicked out
and he said it was just practice.
It was football, bro.
Exactly.
What are we even talking about?
Five months after.
Did you see what that guy did to me?
He tried to get my helmet.
I could get his.
I win.
That's called me winning the rep.
And I'm just trying
to finish it this isn't on sunday although more people saw it on the internet than would be
watching the game it's a fascinating little development that these are just fight factories
yeah it's the same way like what albert haynes was dirty ass when he uh stepped on the guy face
for the cab oh yeah what a piece of shit he is.
Is that preseason or regular season?
Well said, Pac.
Preseason.
There's been a lot of those types of situations on the field.
We hope none of those happen today.
That's right.
That's all we hope.
Let's move along to some other news happening around the NFL.
Dalvin Cook is no longer cooking at home with our team. No.
Dalvin Cook is now a New York Jet after signing with them yesterday.
Congrats to him.
Eight point some million dollars he will be able to earn this upcoming season.
Last week we chit-chatted with Diana Rossini who lives in the New Jersey area,
has been to training camp.
She said that there was maybe a little bit of a disagreement between the New York Jets
and Dalvin Cook on the role on the team, especially with Brees Hall seemingly being all the way
back.
Brees Hall last year, for those that don't know, because the Jets kind of stunk and they
didn't really do much going later in the season, Brees Hall is a dog.
Brees Hall was a rookie last year, and he was remarkable.
Every game seemingly having a 70-yard touchdown pulling away.
Then offensive lineman gets hurt. He gets hurt.
The season becomes what it was.
But Brees Hall coming back is a massive
thing for the New York Jets.
So whenever Diana
Rossini said that Dalvin Cook
and the Jets couldn't agree on a
role for him, we all assumed, okay, that
means Brees Hall is green
flag racing. He is
wide open. He's going to be all the way back. They believe that. We respect flag racing. He is wide open.
He's going to be all the way back.
They believe that.
We respect that decision.
We like that decision.
He's going to the Dolphins or he's going to the Colts.
Now, signs for eight point some million.
Feels like that's a lot of money.
Feels like that's a lot of money.
He's Dalvin Cook, so I assume he's going to get the rock a lot.
We don't know what it's going to be role-wise,
but if you have Dalvin Cook on your team, you're going to use
Dalvin Cook. So now you've got Brees
Hall and Dalvin Cook in the backfield.
How you doing? Keep it moving.
You've got Garrett Wilson on
the outside. How you doing?
Keep it moving. You've got CJ
Uzama at tight end.
You've got Alan Lazard out there.
You've got a team full of weapons
if their offensive line can hold up, which Aaron and Nathaniel Hackett
will be able to strategize around.
We're not the only people realizing that their offensive line isn't great
and you need an offensive line to be great in the NFL.
And maybe they will be great.
We have no idea yet because the season hasn't started.
But Hackett and Aaron don't want to die.
They know that there's a bad offensive line potentially. You can strategize around that. idea yet because the season hasn't started but Hackett and Aaron don't want to die no they know
that there's a bad offensive line potentially you can strategize around that let's assume that Aaron
in hack in the offense will be able to figure that out if they have to even if it is a little
bit of adversity in the front line for the first you know eight weeks or so but this team is
fucking stacked and the fact that the Jets are a destination for people now should make Jets fans excited, everybody else envious.
And the thought that Aaron is now going to have the opportunity to build
what I think he wanted to build in Green Bay,
in the largest market in the world,
is a very awesome little chapter for the next football life of the kid
out of NorCal.
But Dalvin's a weapon, bro.
Oh, yeah.
I was hoping he'd be a cult.
But instead, the rich.
Yes.
Anthony Richardson has been announced starter.
We'll get into that.
This ain't about the Colts.
We're talking about a different AR.
I think the Dolphins were hoping for the same thing about Dalvin Cook
because he was coming back home.
Already went to Florida State one time.
Didn't go to Miami.
He's going to come play hometown team.
Now he's going to the Jets.
Pac-Man, what an addition.
Even if Brees Hall is good, having two guys at that position in the modern NFL
is a weapon for you.
I think this is one of the biggest moves for NFL football right now.
With the defense being good as they are,
you're going to have to put nine in the box now every time.
I haven't seen the last time where a defense can play Aaron Rodgers with putting nine fucking people in the box
and letting him pick, dark pick, who you want to pick on the whole game.
With Dalvin Cook and Breece Hall in the backfields, this should be amazing.
I'm eager to see how this goes.
I expect the Jets to be playing the Bengals for the AFC.
AFC Championship?
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw you were at training camp the other day.
Said they didn't want to see your bowl.
We're going to talk about that certainly in a little bit.
The thought about a packed box, though, and having to be a packed box,
because even if Dalvin gets hurt, which is possible,
it's a running back position, not easy.
Even if Bruce gets hurt, possible.
Running back position, not easy. You'd hope you hurt, possible. Running back position, not easy.
You'd hope you'd have at least one of them.
So you never have a superstar drop-off.
Having a superstar that takes the attention of the defensive coordinator
throughout the week is good for having to strategize
against what you're going to have on the back end.
Now, puts a little bit more pressure on that O-line.
But you know what makes O-line's life easier?
If you establish a run game.
Because then they can come off the ball and go forward
as opposed to having to come back all the time.
And I think, I think Aaron and Hack know.
I think he do.
That Aaron's best moments, Tom Brady's best moments,
Peyton Manning's best moments,
pretty much everybody that's ever been good at that position's
Best moments are when the run game is
Fucking very good
Because this boy right here
Oh
Buddy
Especially if you can throw it on a dot
Linebackers get sucked up
You know what I mean those linebackers get sucked up
Because whenever they see that ball
They're like oh run I gotta get downhill They are getting sucked up. Because whenever they see that ball, they're like, oh, run. I got to get downhill.
Big time stuff.
They're getting sucked up.
Sucked up.
All day long.
Oh, my.
Sucked up.
And then, whoosh.
Oh, my God.
I'm getting sucked.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
And then, boom.
You just got a little Zorma.
Yep.
Right behind her.
Bang.
You got Cobb.
Still got it.
Yeah.
We assume he's going to get how many third downs?
Probably like seven or eight because we've got.
This season.
He'll have 20 catches this year and 18 of them will be for first downs on third down.
And you know what they'll look like?
Yeah.
Bingo.
Dude.
Yeah.
Sucked up.
Bang.
Right behind it.
It is.
I think it's a great move.
I'm happy they went and did it.
Yeah.
Now, they're not the only team that signed a running back yesterday.
Hell yeah.
Zeke, formerly of the Dallas Cowboys, one of the faces of the Dallas Cowboys,
got paid a lot of money by the Dallas Cowboys.
Now a member of the New England Patriots.
Wow.
Whoa.
Just yesterday, Ezekiel Elliott was announced to be signing for $6 million,
up to $6 million, to join the New England Patriots.
Now, the running back market is what it is.
Maybe a little bit more money for Zeke.
We all had thought, because of how established he is and what type of football player he
is, everybody thinks because Tony Pollard came in and became this electrifying offensive
figure for the Dallas Cowboys that Zeke maybe doesn't have it anymore.
Well, Bill Belichick doesn't believe that to be the case.
Michael Lombardi came on our show last week, and he said,
I believe both those guys know where they're going,
just about figuring out the money.
As soon as he said that, we thought to ourselves,
oh, that means the Patriots probably signing Zeke
because Lambeau's pretty tied in pretty good up in New England,
and Zeke has only been tied to New England.
They make it official yesterday.
What does this mean for you,
and why do you think Zeke was so high on Bill Belichick's wish list?
I assume he was just so high on Bill Belichick's wish list? I assume he was just so
high on him just because he's the greatest coach in the
history of the entire planet.
I think we can say across all sports, but
also Zeke, he
kind of was in that third down
back role with the
Cowboys. It felt like after Pollard
kind of took that over and with Ramondre
Stevenson and the O-line, they needed
help, especially at their number two running back position.
But, you know, I can't emphasize enough.
I am very, very happy to have Zeke.
But being a fan for a team where at one point this offseason
we were favorites to get Dalvin Cook and DeAndre Hopkins,
I can't act like I'm not just a little bit disappointed
that we didn't get Dalvin Cook.
Welcome to the city, Zeke!
I can't.
Thought we were getting another guy.
We have a running back going into his third year,
and he just came off his best season.
He had like 1,200 yards.
Now, he wasn't good on the goal line is what the percentages are saying,
apparently.
You know, he was 24th in the league in goal-to-go percentages scoring.
Zeke was fourth in the league.
So, he's definitely going to bring a
great element, great in pass blocking
too. But you know, yeah,
it's tough when the division rival
gets one of the best running backs in the NFL.
Oh, I forgot about that. Zeke Elliott.
You remember, players used to
ring chase up to New England.
Because they got Tom.
Now, people
are like, how many taxes can I pay to the state of New Jersey?
Exactly.
That's right.
You know, like when Tom went to Tampa, everybody was like, not only is Tom there, but also
you got no state income tax.
The weather's nice.
You're right there on the bay.
Oh, it is a perfect city.
You're going to love it.
Come on down here.
Let's get a ring.
Let's do that whole thing.
Now it's like, come on up.
Pay 75% tax here.
It's going to get a little bit chilly sometimes.
How's the traffic?
The worst, actually.
Broadway, though.
But?
Plays every night of the week.
You're right.
Jersey Boys.
Wicked.
Restaurants.
Chicago.
So many good restaurants.
Now granted, to get there from where we live, you're going to have to go
into the city.
But also, New Jersey has some.
Jersey's nice.
Smells terrible, but it's nice.
On the way in, on one particular highway,
it does smell like, I don't know,
a can of ass.
Raw sewage.
Just kind of open up a nice can of ass.
Just right into whatever you're in.
But that's just that one part.
Jersey is beautiful.
Yes, they're a gem.
Absolutely beautiful.
But, like, New York is now the destination for people to go win a ring alongside a guy.
What's that?
I mean, we're putting the cart before the horse a little bit.
I mean, we're saying that we're going to have to put nine people in the box against the Packers because
Dalvin Cook, but they're all terrible.
Excuse me, Jets. Their O-line isn't
good in every single D-line. Hold on.
Hold on. Every single D-line that they're
playing is going to be very, very good.
The strength of everybody's team in
the AFC East on defense is
their D-line. So, I mean, I
completely agree. Hey, listen. Hey,
tell Dalvin Cook that. No, no. I'm sure he knows. It's not as if there are easy D-lines in the NF listen. Tell Dava Cook that.
I'm sure he knows. It's not as if there are easy D-lines in the NFC North. Well, kind of there are.
But it's not as if it was easy
running the entire time.
You don't pack the box.
You will see number
four, the back of his jersey saying
Cook, I'm telling you. I completely agree. You could probably
put seven in there. But to say you're going to put nine
people in the box against Aaron Rodgers is ridiculous. Well, I think telling you. I completely agree. You could probably put seven in there. But to say you're going to put nine people in the box against Aaron Rodgers is ridiculous.
Well, I think he was being a little dramatic.
Okay, sure.
I think he was probably overselling it a little bit.
Absolutely.
But, yeah, I do believe that the running back being a weapon for them at all times,
you would think they wouldn't both go down.
Even the third's really good.
What's that, pal?
Michael Carter's really good, even if they did. Yeah, but, like, okay Michael Carter's really good even if they did.
Yeah, but like, okay,
still got a good run game is what you're saying
or whatever, but like just having those
like, if Brees Hall is able to return
to form, and I know that's the biggest
question, which is weird because Dalvin Cook's so much
older and everything
like that, but like if Brees Hall
can mimic what he was able
to do easily in the
nfl whenever he entered in there which is just cook yes that's all he was doing it was remarkable
to watch this young dude just kind of pick it up on it so quickly cutbacks knowing where he's
supposed to go pulling away from motherfuckers catching the ball out of the backfield it was
like this dude was a home run draft pick for the Jets.
Then he gets hurt.
He only did it for one year, like eight games or ten games,
whatever it was.
Are we just guaranteeing he's going to do that again?
And if he is, and Dalvin Cook's able to mimic what he was just doing
a year ago, I mean, here we go.
Even if they didn't have Aaron Rodgers,
I think that would be a team you're like like think they could scheme away with these two running backs to win some fucking games
let alone you add in there aaron rogers as well that's that i mean what the fuck he was available
right could have been a cold free agent this guy could have been who could have never been a cold
aaron rogers and then could this whole thing not have happened in Indianapolis?
How many people are thinking about that?
You know what I mean?
Aaron doesn't want to come to – he would love Indianapolis.
But this is just like when Tom went to Tampa,
and then Gronk's there, AB's there on the football field.
He's also there off the field in the house that we were paying for.
Right.
Four net.
Documented.
Yeah, four net.
People start just going there. It feels like the right move is if you can get one of these OGs that we were paying for. Fournette. Documented. Yeah, Fournette, like people start just going there.
It feels like the right move is if you can get one of these OGs
that's on the move.
Now you're only going to have a little bit of time.
Exactly.
Rams.
That was quick.
Yeah, it's very quick.
I mean, Tampa too.
Very quick.
But they won, so it doesn't matter.
Yeah, exactly.
In their homes.
Both of them.
Back-to-back years.
Without what they had, they still, damn near,
almost could have made the playoffs last year.
Yeah, 7-9.
7-10.
They were 6-3 going into the bye.
Yeah, that's crazy.
And adding what they just added.
Here we go, Jets.
Hey, good luck out there.
Good luck.
Good luck to Ezekiel in New England,
although it doesn't sound like it's a welcome party.
I don't think he's excited at all.
No, it is.
Like I said, very, very excited.
But would you equate Zeke and Dalvin Cook in the last two years?
No, not at all.
Have they been the same thing?
No.
So, I mean, there is a little bit of, you know, nice, pumped.
Dalvin Cook, also pretty damn good.
Zeke can play the whole line, though.
Your center gets hurt.
That's true.
What did old buddy say about Dalvin?
Old buddy said about Dalvin, the Vikings offered him $7 million.
Yeah, that's what they said.
We got leaked.
That was leaked somehow.
We don't know what's real,
what isn't real at this stage of the game,
and who's leaking what information.
That's what you have to always try to remember.
Like, did the Vikings leak this information
because they wanted their fans to say,
hey, we tried.
Yeah.
You know, we made,
we're big fans of him as well.
We tried, we did this.
Or is Dalvin's people leaking that, saying like, look at the – he got more money?
Like, who leaked the information that the Vikings offered him $7 million?
He said no and then took $8.6 at New York.
That would be an interesting conversation, I guess,
to find out on the back end there who did what.
But nonetheless, he has a new home.
And the Jets seemingly just get better and better.
Speaking of getting better and better, this Madden game, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, does it ever come out?
So it's coming out soon.
The Lux version came out last night at 8.
They had a lot of problems right off the bat.
Apparently, you could only play quick play.
Okay, so the Lux version comes out early.
You pay an extra hundo, I heard.
Yeah, $20.
Yeah, I guess it's $90.
Yeah, extra $20.
What's that? So the regular game, if you're buying it for like PS5,'s $90. Yeah, extra $20. What's that?
So the regular game, if you're buying it for PS5, is $69.99.
The deluxe one, which I think you get a couple additional things with it,
it's $99.99.
Bill lied to me earlier.
He did.
He said it's an extra $100.
It's not.
I thought that was a good idea, just $100, just kind of steal from everybody,
but not really let them play the game,
because that's what it sounds like happened, right?
Yeah.
All these people paid this extra money to get Madden a little bit early.
They were able to get on, but it wasn't fully finished.
They were only able to play quick play,
which the internet told me, what are we doing?
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Game got worse.
You even let us buy this.
Why did you let us do that?
Chad Ochoa-Sinco told us.
He did.
That anything that you don't like about Madden, blame him.
Are we assuming the game's going to be much different than what rolled out last night?
And when does that roll out than the full version?
And why do they do all this for 20 extra bucks from people and kind of let everybody dump on the game last night?
See, and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
Because anytime something like that, that just means that a shitload of people bought it last night.
Like the servers were just bogged down.
time something like that like that just means that a shitload of people bought it last night like the servers were just bogged down you know it's like anytime we have done something new where
it's like either we're switching the podcast to a different platform like what always happens
we fucking crash the website every single time like it just it it's what happens when a shitload
of people go to it so it's a good thing and a bad thing exactly and you weren't prepared so you look
amateur exactly but also but also good problem yeah look how many people probably paid a hundred bucks to get this thing early i think it actually the actual release date like if you look amateur. Exactly. But also, good problem. Look how many people probably paid $100 to get this thing early.
I think the actual release date, if you look online, is next Tuesday, I think.
So it comes out next week.
So they've given themselves a week runway to kind of get everything right.
But I would imagine, too, that this is the kind of thing,
they'll have this fixed by today because they are just getting killed
and taking it on the shins on the internet right now.
But everybody's expecting to, okay, that's awesome.
Hell yeah.
There are a couple glitches.
Score a touchdown, get squatted, because that is what we do.
He's dead.
Dead.
Corlin Sutton.
Out for the year.
Because he got squatted?
That's right.
Hey, listen, we've never seen that type of injury happen before,
where somebody gets actually the Lex Luger torture racket.
Yeah, right.
That's kind of what happened here.
They roll into it, too.
It's a good transition.
And this guy.
Boom.
It's like if you did that in a squared circle, people would be like,
that's a hell of a good way to get in there.
That was actually a pretty good way to get in there.
Madden said, we got you.
That torture rack did take people out.
It did.
So I can see why Carlin Sutton would be in a little bit of trouble right there.
Yeah, it was a good sell.
Good sell on him after a great touchdown.
But people are going into Madden looking to hate it, right?
Yes, for sure.
Almost every year it is, and this year is not even like let's go in and hate it.
It's like this is it.
If this game isn't good, people are actually.
Yeah, but you Madden people said that last year.
Yeah, believe me.
And the year before that, right?
I'm a Madden chill.
I will always buy Madden.
But it seems as though the internet has actually put their foot in the sand.
I like that, by the way.
I like whenever there comes a time it says, nah.
Now, to Tone's point, it does feel like we have hit this line a couple times. Yes.
But you guys love football and video games so much.
Love them both.
More than anything, really.
And without 2K.
No 2K, yeah.
Baseball, I mean, it is interesting.
Madden has to hit this year.
I think this year is different just because of all the news
and stuff that they've been talking about
with everything they changed.
So the game has been the same for a long time.
But if they change everything.
You're a pretty good player, too.
People need to know this, right?
You spent a lot of your life in this sport.
Yes, I've played video games my whole life.
Madden has always been a staple, no matter what.
Madden and Duty, I've been playing since I was five years old.
But the biggest thing about this year is they've –
You get outside.
I would go outside sometimes, but then a lot of the times, you know,
everyone's like, hey, let's play hide-and-seek.
I'll search everyone.
Everyone's gone.
He wasn't allowed to smoke cigarettes in the house, so he had to go.
Yeah, I understand.
Run outside for a little.
But the big thing this year is that they're saying they're changing everything for the better of the game and if they don't actually do
that then it's going to stink i do believe there has been some better reviews this morning because
the game is working much better and the franchise mode was the biggest thing that they wanted to
change they've done a lot of stuff to that that's cool like next year for instance like if marvin
harrison jr is in the draft,
you can actually draft him in the game,
and then that guy has the potential to be a 99.
So it's not like a career mode.
It's like a college to NFL mode.
You run a combine with this guy?
You can do like a scout.
Got to get a good getoff on that.
Bro, what if you drop his ass from first round to fifth round
all of a sudden Marvin Harrison because you're 40 times so goddamn slow?
That'd be smart.
That would be a good innovation.
They don't have all that shit?
You have to assign scouts.
So essentially you have scouts.
You have the whole front office, and you will say,
okay, we want to put our best scout in the Big Ten.
But you guys kind of want this to be like Sims but from football, right?
Yeah, kind of. You would like it to be as
realistic. Like Grand Theft. Yes.
Yeah, like as realistic. Like, let
me do as much as possible. A lot of
Madden people say that, or Madden
players say that Madden's been lazy, right?
Very, very lazy.
Oh, can't be title lazy
when you're a greedy corporate fat guy.
I've been playing 23 just to figure out
how lazy they are, especially with Oh, we're doing research. Doing research. I've been playing 23 just to figure out how lazy they are, especially with what we're doing.
Oh, we're doing research.
Doing research.
I've been playing it for the last month just to figure out what Madden 24.
I like that.
This seems pretty similar, doesn't it?
Oh, yeah, I was just playing it yesterday.
Bingo.
Yeah, I was looking for this, actually.
This is from this year, the scrum.
It's called a little rugby.
Oh, who's on offense?
The Broncos?
Not positive, but I think that might be last year.
There was a lot of this last year.
This is classic, though.
This happens every time a video game comes out on the first day.
There will be a bunch of bugs, and then they'll have to pass.
That guy's still standing.
Ball's way over here, though.
Yeah, he doesn't have the ball.
The ball's the program, boys.
The ball is the program.
Is that gangbang?
Is that a bukkake?
Get the ball!
What did you say?
Is that a bukkake?
What's that? A bukkake? Get them all. What did you say? Is that a bukkake? What's that?
A bukkake?
Isn't that what we talked about with Rap Sheet,
where one guy jumps on one side of something,
and then the other guy gets launched into something?
Oh, yeah, that's a blob.
Oh, a blob.
I think you're talking about a lot of blobs.
Yeah, exactly.
Tons of blobs.
Yeah, a lot of blobs.
Is that what you're referring to?
Yeah, blobs on faces.
Blobbing everywhere.
Like a lot.
Yeah, bingo.
Imagine walking into one of those blob parties.
People do that on a regular basis.
Have I ever met somebody? That's
an interesting thing. Oh yeah, I mean I think we
were with him kind of recently in
California.
Or excuse me, Nevada.
On the line.
Participant or? kind of both actually hosting oh that's awesome i don't want to dive too deep into this probably 50 of people
that you were in that tournament with yeah well the 50. oh yeah you're right that golf
tournament probably had a lot of ball yeah a lot of rich people out there yeah is that
what we think they're the ones that are mostly i think a ton of poors are doing it uh you never
know i've earned a quick buck i've seen yeah rich people love i was just gonna say oh i know who
you're talking about yeah yeah yeah the wrestler certainly certainly yeah but i was talking about
other stuff with him the entire time yeah yeah i had to Yeah, I'm sure he dabbled in different fields
Yeah, I have talked to a guy
Certainly
And to Tony's point too
I think I thought, yeah, this guy's probably
Wow
Kind of cool
Anyways, that glitch
Can't have it
Can't have it
Not in 2023
But I'm excited to see Madden grow And remember, if it sucks, Ocho Cinco Which can't happen. Can't happen. Can't happen. Can't happen. Can't happen. Not in 2023.
No, it's the stuff.
But I'm excited to see Madden grow.
And remember, if it sucks, Ocho Cinco.
He said it, what, hashtag fuck Chad, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's what he said.
Yeah.
So it's about up right now.
It's about up.
Probably.
He's pushing for it.
It's about up. You guys want the game to be different.
Do you guys, like, have ideas to make the game different, though?
Foxy's saying, listen, we have too many problems in society.
What we need is some answers.
Some solvers.
Do you guys want to bitch about it or offer up some ideas to make it better?
It feels like they actually did listen because all the, like, basically from the Madden community,
the majority of the ideas surrounded franchise mode.
And they basically focused on that the most also face of the franchise was
something that they really screwed up last year,
but it does feel like,
at least for me,
the biggest thing was in franchise mode,
just as the years go on,
like players have to get better.
I will say the biggest thing I've noticed from playing 23 to these last,
this Matt last month,
they don't know what the salary cap is so
i've been trying to do the salary cap the way where you can pay everybody but uh when you kind
of increase the bonuses it doesn't help whatsoever which is a big storyline of the nfl right now
exactly for the last couple years is the salary cap gymnastics yeah so you're not allowed to do
that which pissed me off actually a lot hey you, you think his program covered that? I think we probably...
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the reporting of it and...
I feel like we...
That was something I feel like we put our investigative journalism caps on.
Oh, yeah.
Now, are we journalists?
Think of school for it.
I mean, when called upon.
But I'll journal.
Yeah.
Do you journal?
I do.
Every night before bed.
Do you?
Mm-hmm.
That's's good commitment
yeah but i know you're journaling and fucking new song comes out every two days that's right
right i'm journaling hell yeah we're journalists nobody's all day we investigated that though
because that was a real change in a swing in how teams were constructed uh we're only allowed to
pay this so much but you look at this clause down here, 98BA714.
I think we can actually
just take that money completely out of this year.
Give it to the player now.
We'd be heroes in that person.
They're happy. We're happy.
Then we can just divvy it up
through the duration of the entire contract.
Instead of taking the
$100 million in this one year,
we can just knock that thing to $25 million a year for the next four.
And look what we're doing.
We're saving a lot of room.
Look what we did.
$75 million we just opened up in the cap that we can go spend.
And guess what we can do to them?
Ho, ho.
Buddy.
Same thing.
We're doing this again.
We're doing this for the entire roster.
Now they're going to say we kick it down the road.
We'll have to deal with it later.
That seems like all bullshit to me. Because guess what we're doing when we get down
the road later we're still kicking aren't we until we're dead we're just kicking this can forever
and listen to this they got void we read read down here they got void years you can add on to this
what does that mean they're just fake so like, if you want to make this contract a $100 million signing bonus,
make it a 27-year contract, 20 years of it void.
What does that mean? Well, the 20 years, like, aren't real,
but for the purpose of the $100 million Divvy bonus thing, very real.
So you're saying we're only getting, like, $4 million against the cap next year?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Wow. So we go from $100 million like $4 million against the Cavs next year? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Wow.
So we go from $100 million to $4 million with one guy,
and there's 20 years of void contract.
Bingo.
Somebody started doing that.
Yes.
Tampa, I think Kansas City, Veach started doing this particular move.
Whenever he signed Patrick, they did that very long.
New Orleans Saints did this.
Then the Rams obviously did this.
And teams that started winning Super Bowls off of this idea. Now, to be clear, we were all on board with this. Then the Rams obviously did this. And teams that started winning Super Bowls off of this idea. Now,
to be clear, we were all
on board with this.
Loudly. Because we were trying
to get to the bottom of it. How is everybody getting paid right now?
This is awesome. This must be
something new. It did.
That can that you kicked down the road,
it does end up not being kickable
at one point. Yeah, you really eat
some shit.
This is the first full cycle of this salary cap gymnastic fuckery that is the voided years and the signing bonus thing.
And I know Bill and Tom have been doing this for a long time up in New England,
but it really started to become an actual strategy for the team builder.
It's like what you can do with it is wild.
We, from the very beginning, very excited about it.
Pumped it heavily.
Your owner doesn't care about your team
if you're not doing this.
If your GM does not do
this, and then here we are
a couple years later and it's like...
It's beating the rules and we're playing within the rules.
But then the rules do show
up at the front door and they
have kicked some people right in the nuts.
Yeah, like if the player retires or doesn't play good that you're doing this for,
fucked.
Brutal.
Brutal.
Absolutely done.
Because the contract, you're still eating that bit.
You also got to eat the following if they retire.
So that whole thing comes in a much bigger left hook
that you kind of delayed for a long time.
But I guess you just ripped the Band-Aid off.
But you've got to start back from the bottom pretty much at scratch.
But you're going for it, and you're going to win a Super Bowl.
I love that it's kind of now just expected out of teams
to do it when they need to open some space
because not that long ago it was vastly different.
No, I mean, you look at like the Titans with Tannehill,
like the year after they went to the AFC Championship
or whenever they lost in the playoffs,
and he said he had to go to therapy and stuff
because it was very tough for him to get over it.
But then they get rid of A.J. Brown.
Come on.
Come on.
It meant a lot to him.
He beat it.
He's got past it, which we're very happy about.
But then they get rid of A.J. Brown,
and they're not nearly as good the next two years with him.
And every offseason, they're talking about, hey, we either need to trade this guy
or we need to redo his contract because what we just did two years ago.
We're not in the same area.
This guy can't take us as deep in the playoffs as we thought he once could.
And now we've fucked the rest of the team because of it.
So does anybody want him?
Can we trade him?
And here we are, and he's still starting.
I'm happy I don't have to make those decisions you know yeah because i'm just paying everybody 100
year contract 98 years void sorry about it yeah and somebody's gonna come on say you're only allowed
to do eight year contracts or whatever it's like okay same premise whenever they're signing some
of these people this is a eight year deal with five voided years, it's like, that is not an eight-year deal. And I've never heard
of a voidable contract.
That doesn't even make sense.
So it's not a contract.
If it's voidable by both sides,
that's
not a contract. We'll talk about it later
about this potentially being in there.
But in the NFL, it just became a strategy.
So, mad respect.
Taysom Hill got like $400 million.
Yes, he did.
With four avoidable years.
With a contract that could be worth $13 million, could be worth $45 million.
Whenever he was potentially going to be quarterback no longer.
Seems like they got their guy down there in Derek Carr.
A lot of people tell me we were dangling a little bit too much on Derek Carr.
What?
Because he had one good drive.
Some people are telling me that.
Everybody hates everybody.
I'm fucking sick of it.
I'm tired of it.
You know, you don't have to just say something bad about somebody every time.
You're not allowed to say anything good about anybody.
Like, if Derek Carr has a good game, like...
He had a decent game.
He had a good game.
He gained 20 pounds of muscle in the offseason.
In his arm.
Yeah, all in his arm.
We don't know about anywhere else, but it's like...
Thank you, Jesus.
Hell yeah.
I think we should celebrate Derek Carter right now.
Now, preseason game, so it is what it is.
And a lot of people saying that after every highlight that we post somewhere.
But it's like, Michael Thomas is back.
There he is.
That's good news.
Derek found him.
Derek's on the run.
Derek drops off to Kamara.
Perfect.
Kamara's not going to be there for three weeks.
But guess what?
He's fresh for 14.
Yeah. 17-game season. And then this touchdown here, to aara. Perfect. Kamara's not going to be there for three weeks, but guess what? He's fresh for 14. Yeah.
17-game season.
And then this touchdown here to a spot.
How you doing?
Over the guy's head.
No coverage could stop that.
No.
It's a perfect throw.
Perfect.
Well, I don't know.
What do you think?
You thought he was okay, Pat?
Is that what you just said?
I thought he played pretty good.
The ball was precise.
He had his reads.
He went from one read, hit the cross, which is his second read.
He looked pretty good to me.
You can knick-knack and say what you want to say,
but if you look at the quarterbacks that played this weekend,
his grade was probably one of the highest grades.
Yeah, absolutely.
And grade, Trey Lance, I think a lot of people could be on this spot.
Trey Lance needed to play for the whole preseason.
Why?
Because he haven't played enough football for us to see him.
So you think he just looks like he hasn't played a lot of football?
He hasn't.
Yeah, we agree.
Even in college, you go back, you play one year at O State, right?
Then you come to the league.
How many games have you played?
So 416.
That's not even a season worth of football.
Is that the number, 416?
That's how many passes he's attempted. He's 22 years old.
We forgetting that. He was 20
years old. He wasn't even
allowed to drink a fucking beer when
he came in. Yeah, especially.
I was thinking about this the other day. I'm like,
God damn, is he ever going to get it? I'm like, oh, let me go back
and do my homework. He's a
fucking child. Yeah, he's very young.
416 pass attempts. Is that
the number? Since 2016. And that the number that they're asking?
Since 2016.
Heard he's the oldest quarterback.
And then the next thing he said was that he said that Drake May,
in like a two-month period.
Yeah, through November.
Through November had more than 416 pass attempts.
I'm quite sure he's still the youngest quarterback on that list.
How old is the –
Heard he's 23.
I just looked.
Sam Darnold just turned 26.
That's crazy.
He was drafted at like fucking 19.
Yeah, he was drafted real young too.
17.
He's been in the league for 10 years.
He's lived 100 different lives.
And the interesting thing is they chose to draft him at three overall
after trading up there with all this information being done.
What just happened there?
He got muted for a second, yeah.
Was that me?
Mid-sentence.
Oh, Nick.
Nick back there was getting his...
Hey, Nick worked out.
Again?
Good boy, Nick.
Thanks, thanks.
Sorry about that.
I'm a little worried.
Where was I headed there when I got muted?
We're talking about...
When they drafted him.
Sam Darnold.
Oh, yeah, three.
When they drafted Trey Lance.
Oh, yeah.
All this information we're going through right now,
they knew that.
Oh, yeah.
They thought they were going to be able to develop.
They had no idea, though, that there was going to be a guy at the very end there
who just had it all.
Yeah.
And it's like for the team that they have, he's got to be the guy.
He just has the leadership quality that Jimmy G seemed to have.
More experience.
Boys are rallying around him.
Boys are rallying around him. Boys are rallying around him.
Command.
He makes every single throw that you're supposed to make in an offense that,
like, hey, just make the throw you're supposed to make.
And then they go on that magical run.
It's like his story and fairy tale, this Brock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant,
this whole thing was getting built.
And it's like, how do you even have the Trey Lance story happen at the same time?
You can't.
He's going to have to get traded, I think.
Because they're not caring about watching Trey Lance for the next two preseason games to get reps.
They're like, is Sam Darnold going to be our backup if Brock Purdy gets hurt?
Or is Trey Lance going to be our backup if Brock Purdy?
That's all they care about.
So it's a tough situation, bro, for a guy that has next to no football experience.
None.
And me personally, they already know who they're going with.
We don't need to see what Purdy and Brock can do.
We know what they can do.
Trey Lance needs to play the whole preseason.
And everybody needs to get a look at him for four quarters,
put him out there with the starters, let's see can he run the good the number ones and just get an opinion on them for a whole
game that would be shanahan and lynch saying hey here's an audition pretty much for the rest of
the nfl to get a chance to see the guy that we traded the future of our franchise for but i don't
know if they're going to view it that way i think they're going to say sam darnold needs to get some
reps yep he's going to play i wonder about brock they're going to view it that way. I think they're going to say Sam Darnold needs to get some reps. He's going to play.
I wonder about Brock.
They're talking about Brock being back after that Tommy on surgery early.
Have we seen anything out of Brock Purdy?
Shanahan said this morning, he said the only way Brock Purdy is in our starter week one is if he melts in practice.
Okay.
So it's like, done deal.
They've seen enough.
It has been hot.
It has been hot.
It has been hot.
That's going to be hard to follow up what he did last year, though.
I think he's only going to get better.
Me too.
I think here is where he's –
Excels.
This is where I think he is really, really good.
So with more reps.
Full offseason with the number ones.
McCaffrey there the whole time.
Elijah Mitchell's healthy again.
Brandon Aiyuk, excuse me,
they're talking about him being the best receiver they have.
Remember, wasn't that last year training camp?
Ayuk?
Bingo.
Was everywhere.
Everywhere.
Highlight, highlight, highlight, highlight.
This is the guy.
I think it was – I don't know who was thrown to him at the time.
Maybe Trey.
Yeah, it might have been Trey Lance.
Trey Lance's favorite target is Ayuk.
Jimmy G is training on another field.
Purdy's also a chip-on-the-shoulder guy.
He doesn't need any – it's not like he's going to look at last year and be like, oh, I went 7-1.
We went to the NFC Championship.
I've made it.
He still went to Iowa State.
They were never that good when he was there.
Iowa State.
Yeah.
He bet on himself.
He did bet on himself.
Not actually, but he bet on himself.
Oh, yeah, but that is the Iowa State.
That is the same program we're talking about,
but then getting picked last week.
Iowa State, that is me just shit-talking, okay?
Literally in the news.
Having fun.
Okay, I didn't make the news.
No.
I'm not happy about it either.
No.
And it's not the Cyclone faithful that had these kids do this.
No.
But it is the reality of your school.
Absolutely.
This guy's got a fucking gambling problem.
They do.
Don't they?
They got a whole lot to do in Ames other than gamble on other teams that are in Ames.
But when Brock was at Iowa State, they weren't doing that, obviously.
His leadership, they're not gambling on games.
They're not doing anything like that.
No.
That is what they got going on.
Well.
He was a dog there, though.
He beat Iowa, didn't he?
No.
I mean, come on. Of course he didn't. No. He didn't. But he was a dog there though he beat iowa didn't he no i mean come on of course he didn't no he didn't but he was good i mean iowa state that's the thing i'm not just saying
this as like an iowa guy like iowa state has sucked for so long like you have to go back to
like when seneca wallace was there like 20 some years ago like that's the last time they were like
actually legit but like they when matt campbell got there and then with Brock Purdy,
they were kind of in that discussion of, hey, if they put together a good year,
they could compete and maybe go to the Big 12 championship.
Now, they never quite made it.
I mean, it is what it is.
Is he from Iowa?
No, he's from Arizona.
Arizona chose Iowa State, or is that the only place they –
Well, remember, he was apparently very good because the whole thing with – Alabama know alabama was recruiting him and he went down there and then saving was like
hey you're not accurate enough we're not offering you and i don't know how he ended up at uh iowa
state but iowa leads the iowa cup 46 to 23 in iowa iowa state football games i do believe
is what this website is telling me right now. Congrats to you guys, bro.
Let's go.
But the current win streak, if you look down there at the bottom, the Cyclones.
What have you done for me lately?
Win.
Wow.
Win, win.
Sure.
Win, win, win.
Well, guess what?
We got them week two this year, so we'll find out very early who's got that win streak going
into next year.
They're going to be shorthanded.
They are going to be.
Oh, because all the guys that were gambling?
Yeah.
My quarterback being one of them.
And they were gambling.
And running back. Brock was there. And they were gambling. And running back.
And D-lineman, I think.
And the current starter
was Brock's backup when he was betting.
Is this the guy that... Yeah, because he bet on Brock.
That's how good Brock is.
That's right. And we need to... That's one of his...
This is a good pivot point out of here.
Brock's leadership is that
behind the scenes, everybody believes in him. Yeah.
You know, that's a big deal. Strongly.
Like, Kittle and them talked about, like, there was no –
as soon as he – it was like, hey, here's a guy.
This guy has the aura of being a guy.
So much of that aura is actually kind of problematic,
what we're learning here.
Yeah.
Because that backup quarterback had one interaction with Brock Purdy.
It was like, I'm betting everything I got.
This guy's unbelievable.
He believes too much. How do I bet like, I'm betting everything I got. This guy is unbelievable. I believe too much.
How do I bet on this guy?
His mom and dad.
Is this guy?
I thought I was a good football player.
I'm a college football player.
People are built fucking different, guys.
I want to bet all my money on this guy.
That's potentially when it started.
So I guess it's a gift and a curse to have a guy like Brock Purdy.
And the Niners certainly got him.
If he doesn't melt, he'll be the starter day one.
Let's hope that doesn't take place.
Let's get to a break. Hour two will be on the
other side with A.J. Hawk, fresh off of a
charity golf outing.
He was at Brady Quinn's golf outing yesterday. Did he
get all boozed up and crash a golf cart?
For sure. Do we have that
photo? We'll have it.
We will. Do we have the other photo
he sent to the group this morning, too?
Oh, yeah.
He was talking about an exoneration.
He is so jacked up.
Yeah.
He's rocked up, too, probably.
Yeah, he's super rocked up.
Both.
Which the guy was.
Well, yes, he's been working out.
Yeah.
That guy's body fat percentage might be like 2%.
Yeah.
Well, he measured it every Friday, so he can probably tell us.
He does with the general Bob Carpenter.
That's right.
I wonder who's...
He eats glass.
What's that?
He eats glass.
He shouldn't have no fat.
Yeah, he actually eats something worse than glass
because glass has like a little sandy taste.
Yeah, right.
Crunch.
You know what I mean?
He just eats...
Give me the blandest chicken you got
and give me the blandest ass rice you got.
Exactly.
You know, some rice has a little bit of flavor.
I don't want that rice.
No, never.
Give me the shit with no flavor. That's Exactly. You know, some rice has a little bit of flavor. I don't want that rice. No, never. Give me the shit with no flavor.
Please.
You know the base for your meals that you put stuff on top of to have flavor?
Don't put the flavor stuff on.
No.
None of that.
Just the base.
Brown rice.
And then whenever you see some chicken that looks like the most boring fucking chicken
walking around the yard?
I'll take it.
Give me that one.
Right now.
The dark meat a little bit?
No.
What the hell did you just say?
Dry.
No.
In Ohio?
Dry as grass you could find.
Yeah.
It's going to be too dry.
You might check on it.
I'll have a water.
Thanks.
Boil it, please.
He'll be joining us on the other side.
Okay.
Guy drank his own urine.
12 years.
He did.
Committed.
Every morning, big cup.
What did he say?
I'm going to actually have to do that now.
Live my gimmick.
You know what he said?
He's definitely tried it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We were at a dinner table not too long ago,
and we did talk to somebody who was openly admitting
to drinking air and urine for a portion.
What?
I think semen got mixed in there, yeah.
What?
That's just, I believe that's what he said.
Like they peed too soon after
jerkhead or concoction.
I think he was thinking like salt.
You put sugar in or Splenda or something.
He's talking about adding that.
That was not talking about.
What he was doing there was making a comedic
to make the story a little bit easier.
Nope, that's exactly what I heard.
He said, I'd shoot some of my goo into the urine, and then I'd mix it up with like a spoon.
Who was this?
He did not hear that.
Right now.
There's a chance, though, that the guy that was saying this was so jocked that we actually thought to ourselves, well, that's the trick.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Because we see on the Instagram Explored, all these dudes just like strapped.
Yeah.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Are these guys in the same world I'm in?
Like, do they not have pizza as an option ever?
Absolutely not.
Do they not?
What do they do?
Turns out, we were asking this guy all the questions because he looked like an Instagram
explore page guy.
Yep.
And he was answering all.
He, not what Connor said.
No.
That's what he told me.
But he did do a drinking urine phase, I believe.
He said it tasted like flat Mountain Dew.
Bingo.
But he also said something that was putting back in his body.
He could feel this, that.
He just didn't stick with it.
AJ was in that conversation as well.
AJ truly was selling that he had never done it.
Right.
You know, like very straight.
This is right after the ESPYs.
This is one day after the ESPYs.
So pretty fresh in a lot of things.
And AJ was
very
sure that he's never done it. I should try
though. Yeah, for the whole time though,
he kept selling that gimmick. It wasn't like a moment where
he was like, I have done it. So I
don't think he's ever actually drank his own urine. So I
lied. I got misinformation.
I don't know. Fake this.
Might be true though.
Well, most of the things you've been saying today, not true.
That's not true.
Yeah.
What you just said isn't true.
No, what you said.
What I said that's not true is about what you said.
You want to do politics?
No, I'm a better human than you are.
I'm a better human than you are.
No, you are.
Don't even have to consider it for a second.
No, you put hairspray in your hair right there.
I see it.
You fucking kill any ozone.
That's why the global boiling is happening.
No, I used mousse, mousse, as they call it, in my hair today.
And, yeah, I didn't use any hairspray.
Oh, where's mousse from?
Canada?
What'd you do?
Kill them?
Geez.
No, mousse.
I'm a better human than you.
You want to take out animals?
Copita comes in this whole thing.
Don't worry.
I don't kill the animals, okay?
Mousse, I believe, is similar to horse glue.
They kill the animal, but it's still used for a purpose again.
I close my eyes whenever they do that at racetracks.
You open your eyes.
That's why I'm a better human than you.
Well, I want to take it in because I want to respect the horses and what they have to
go through.
That's why I'm a better human than you are.
You turn a blind eye.
I don't turn a blind eye to terrible things going on.
No, you're riding those horses.
I'm looking at those horses.
That's the difference.
I'm a better human than you are.
No, I'm trying to save the horses, so that makes me a better human than you are.
No, you're not saving any of those horses.
Then how come I can stand there and support them after death and buy their moose and glue?
I'm a better human than you are.
I disagree.
I'm a better human than you are.
That's politics, baby.
We did it again.
We did it again.
Yep.
Good politics talk.
It is.
That's around the corner.
Yeah, next year.
Pumped.
I can't wait for these humans to see our politics talk whenever they have to watch
us. I love it.
Just openly mocking everything
they live and die for.
I'm a better human than you.
I'm a better human than you. That is literally
what politics is. For a while.
Right? Yeah.
We want to do this
because save world.
Well, we want to do this because save world. Well, we want to do this
because save world.
Those are two different worlds.
Same world.
Politics.
That's right.
A.J. Hawk, who loves
former president,
who seemingly just got
exonerated.
Yeah.
That'd be President Underwood.
That's right.
From House of Cards.
Can't wait to get his entire thoughts on that.
Kevin Spacey, I guess, completely innocent.
Yeah, which.
That's upset of the year.
Oh, yeah.
That's upset of the century, maybe.
Yeah.
Well.
I do wonder how this, what's that?
Just say some of the Frank Underwood tactics, you know, came into play with, I think, real life Spacey.
All right, let's take a break.
That's just what I've seen. That's just what I've seen.
That's just what I've seen.
The internet said that?
Yes, about some of the witnesses.
What?
Jeez Louise.
I'm sure AJ will have all the information.
We would have heard about it.
We also got to talk about all the sports that are taking place.
Michael Orr.
Boy.
Yikes.
I don't like what's going on here.
That's going to get real ugly.
Yeah.
That's going to get real loud, real ugly.
Don't like negativity in anybody's lives.
Obviously, Michael Orr has experienced and felt that.
That's why he went into the book.
I played on the same senior bowl team as Michael Orr.
Every time we played against Michael Orr, I had a conversation with Michael Orr.
I'm pulling for Michael Orr, just like the rest of the world.
That's right.
We're all on Michael Orr's side.
Absolutely.
A lot of people going after Sandra Bullock.
I don't think Sandra Bullock knew it was all bullshit.
I don't think she did either.
Those guys made a lot of money off that movie.
Yeah.
A lot of money.
It was a great movie.
Won an Oscar.
Very popular movie.
How in the hell did he not know nothing?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know how it worked out.
Do I have to read the book?
We're going to have to read the book?
Yeah, exactly.
Uh-huh.
We're on Michael Horst's side, though.
Yes, we are.
Until further notice.
Yeah.
Probably forever.
Yeah.
Unless.
I don't know why the Chrisleys
did that to him.
So they got another show
coming out, too.
What?
From jail?
I don't know if there's gonna be
any jail visits,
but I do believe.
Oh, so it's the kids?
Yes.
Yeah, it's the kids,
and I assume Todd's popping in
from jail.
Yeah.
I assume.
20 to life.
I wonder how he's doing.
He's. We don't. I want to judge. Let's get to a break. We'll be back on 20 to life. I wonder how he's doing. He's,
we don't,
I don't want to judge.
Let's get to a break.
We'll be back on the other side.
I think he's probably doing okay.
Yeah.
No to soup.
He's a hustler.
Yeah, he's a worker.
Playing tennis every day.
Steak dinners at night.
Nah.
Playing catch with Ryan Leaf in there.
Exactly.
Yep.
What?
So small.
That's what he said.
Yeah. Remember when Ryan Leaf said they asked him to play all-time quarterback's what he said. Yeah.
Remember when Ryan Leaf said they asked him to play all-time quarterback or something like that?
Yeah, yeah.
And Miami, I thought, was like, did you think to yourself, this is going to be the easiest stint of all time?
Right.
And he got upset about it.
He said he didn't do it anymore.
Yeah.
Well, Chrisley's playing quarterback now.
Him and Harry Ruggs have one of the greatest connections in the history of the team.
Three years?
Three years?
Three to ten.
Yeah.
Sad stuff.
Let's not do illegal stuff.
That's coming from a guy who has a mugshot.
Me too. Another guy has
a mugshot. We all
fuck up. Let's move on. Let's not make the big mistakes
though. That's right. Let's get back
to the other side of football talk.
Tell me!
And that is a former
Notre Dame quarterback and NFL quarterback,
the ever-handsome Brady Quinn.
He hosted a golf tournament just yesterday
that our guest who will be joining us in moments was at.
And that is also the person who's going to be joining us
with a golf cart in a pond after getting so boozed up
he crashed it and drowned it.
The talk state was here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.
One half of the hammer.
Done.
Cowboys' Tone Diggs is here.
14-year NFL vet Pac-Man Jones is live in the Thunderdome.
And joining us now is this man's brother-in-law.
He's also the current president of the state of Ohio.
He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion,
a Ryder Cup winner.
Ladies and gentlemen, COVID survivor, father of 10, A.J. Hall.
Yeah!
A.J.!
Yes, it's a good picture, Brady.
He's insanely handsome.
Yeah.
Strikingly.
You know what I mean?
It's a little bit uncomfortable that this dude
has looked like this seemingly for his entire life,
just out of stone, chiseled, jawed.
Great touch of gray now, too.
Great, great. He's matured
very well. Classy.
Good for him, Brady Quinn. He has matured
very well. Absolutely. He has matured
in an incredible fashion. Magnificent,
some would say. Magnificent
maturity of your face is what
some people say about this guy. Was this from
yesterday? He was wearing this shirt. How'd the tournament
go? Did you crash any golf carts?
Because you got too boozed up. No,? Did you crash any golf carts because you got too boozed up?
No, I did not crash any golf carts.
Chopper almost crashed a golf cart with Oz,
who was the other gentleman smoking a cig in that picture.
He was in the cart that went down 12 years ago.
So nothing was crashed.
That was from last year, though.
We had some elements yesterday.
We started with some heavy rain through the first nine holes,
and then it cleared up a bit, and it was nice.
Okay.
How'd you play?
Did you play pretty good?
Did you win?
Was there a winner?
I mean, it's a scramble, so I played with my other brother, Ryan,
and then Pistol, my dad.
None of us, I would say, are absolute sharks on the golf course.
We're not scratch golfers by any means, but Brady gave us a ringer.
This kid, Davis, was an absolute stud scratch golfer.
We shot like 21 under.
Of course we didn't win because someone turns in like a 30
under none of us are good none of us are scratch golfers this dude davis the legit did not hit a
bad shot he didn't hit a 21 under huh yeah we all got we all made putts we all you know could use
some of my drives obviously yeah so 18 of them yeah we're not good golfers bro yeah we're playing
on uh every single hole is a 370 yard par four good news i can
actually drive to the fringe davis are you good around the green yeah perfect that's how we're
technically 2100 did not win no i mean it which is un unbelievable i don't know what guys are
who knows what they're putting on oh ohio yeah it's in ohio yeah same thing within pittsburgh
we heard there were some people this past weekend
that were maybe using the other side of the pencil.
Whoa.
That Phil's thing, right?
Someone was cheating?
At the Phil Maynes Family Classic.
Yeah, there was allegedly some people taking a little eraser
and having a little, wait, didn't we?
A lot of that I heard.
I would say.
Because those elements were tough out there.
They were brutal.
I think Nick said it. We had two of that I heard. Those elements were tough out there. They were brutal. I think Nick said it.
We had two of the hardest things.
Unbelievable heat.
Scorching hot and then terrible rain.
Those are the two worst things you can have.
A lot of rain coming, AJ.
It feels like this summer of boil is getting cooled off right now.
Doesn't it?
It sounds like Ohio had a bunch yesterday.
Is that a good thing?
Do we need that rain to simmer us down a little bit?
Well, there's a lot of reasons, you know, because rain makes corn, and corn makes whiskey,
and whiskey makes my baby.
A little bit of whiskey.
We always need rain.
Remember?
Remember?
I do remember.
You used to always sing that song.
Yeah, absolutely.
Who sings that?
Luke Bryan.
What do we even want?
You are disgusting.
It is tough. It's tough to distinguish, especially when it comes to country songs.
It is tough to know who sings what.
Oh, okay.
Which generic white is singing what?
Is that what you're saying?
Act like I'm white.
Yeah, act like I'm white.
They all put ball caps on. We get it. Okay, we hear what you're saying. Not what I'm saying. Yeah, it is. Not what I'm lying. Yeah, act like I'm lying. Oh, they all put ball caps on.
We get it.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, we hear what you're saying, AJ.
Not what I'm saying.
Yeah, it is.
Not what I'm saying.
Oh, these guys all put their little ball caps on.
I said there's a lot of hits out there.
Oh, they're super handsome.
They got accents.
Oh, sorry, AJ.
Broken tats and beard.
Sorry, AJ.
Geez, there's Zach Brown, Zach Bine.
Yeah.
There's a couple different.
Luke Bryan.
Baldass Morgan Wallen. Yep. That was weird. geez there's zach bryan zach bryan yeah there's a couple different luke bryan bald-ass morgan wallen yeah you know and then there's og blake shelton still selling out arenas whenever he
wants to tim mcgrath kicking the fucking shit out of people in the eastern stands yep who fucking
said that thought we're fucking singing yeah all right, that's what I thought. Back down.
Friday night lights were on Sunday. I want to leave.
He beat the fuck out of his kid, man.
Who was, what's her name?
Miranda was not happy people were taking photos at her concert.
Listen, you come to my concert, don't fucking tell anybody.
I got about enough for her.
Okay, yeah, exactly.
Tell me.
Whoa, what's wrong, Diggs?
What'd she do?
What was that, CMA Fest this year?
She sang like fucking six times, okay?
You had your time.
Get out. We're talking about Miranda
Lambert, right? Yeah.
Give me Blake.
Internet rumors, the things that happened with
Blake and Miranda.
We're not diving into all that. We don't need to
dive into music stuff. Team Blake.
Nonetheless, certainly.
That's not even...
I do not know the backstory there.
Me neither. I did, actually.
I heard the rumors, but certainly wasn't going to talk about it.
But the whole pictures thing and then people throwing stuff at people's stuff,
I think a lot of the people that are up on stage are on high guard right now
about, like, anything that is potentially –
like, hey, remember, this is my job.
There's people that are thinking that.
That Miranda Lambert one was tough, though.
That was a tough one to spin. I don't she's had a bad night though and everybody's gonna yeah
right when was cardi b got hit with the uh drink and she threw the mic yeah bingo i think she did
it again she did it twice yeah i think she's saying weekend that's pretty cool little thing
like hey what are you gonna be known for i fucking throw this thing well how do you sing i don't
anymore yeah that's the way this goes and it hurts hurts. Yeah. If you're going to do that, the whole crowd is going to pay for it.
You know, one person jumps offside.
We're all running.
Exactly.
One person throws a drink.
Guess what?
This microphone doesn't.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
All right.
We don't need that back.
I'm not doing anything.
I'm out of here.
Good there, Connor.
This kid missed the desk.
No, I hit the desk.
It didn't land there.
Oh, great throw.
Great throw.
Buckets.
So, what we're saying is, let's all be responsible in public.
That's right.
And appreciate that you have a crowd.
Yeah.
That people, you know what I mean?
Speaking of crowd, AJ was announced yesterday.
Not our start date on ESPN.
That's going to be announced relatively soon, though.
Okay. Okay, awesome. That decision has been made.PN. That's going to be announced relatively soon, though. Okay, awesome.
That decision has been made.
Whoa. That's a big one.
Let's go.
We tried to record a couple commercials for this.
Yeah, we did try.
Wait, wait, wait.
What happened?
I don't know if we won.
They don't have much. No offense
to the people that are very
good at what they do in places, but
I think we kind of save all that stuff.
I don't know. We tried to.
You know, we tried to.
We tried to do.
A commercial to run on
ESPN? Bro, 30 seconds?
I mean, how are we supposed to explain
what's about to happen in 30 seconds? I don't know.
That's old school, I guess.
That's what TV is, 30-second ad spots or whatever.
It was a tough thing for us to figure out, I'm going to say.
That was a tough task.
But that announcement's coming soon.
And when you see our video, no, really, really, I mean,
too much effort was put into it.
A lot of takes.
Too much effort was put into it for what it was.
And that's just how it's going to be for a bit.
But when that gets announced, it'll be
awesome. And obviously, we will
be live on ESPN by the time
we get to
week two of college football, where we
will be live, this particular program, on
Friday, live in Tuscaloosa,
Alabama. AJ, for the Texas Alabama.
I did hear about that.
It's a nice
place for college football huh it should be a good time bro I mean yeah I've never been there
I'm a little bit worried I was a little bit worried about us doing our first like live show
streamed with crowd in a place that I don't think any of our statistics tell us no good spot for us
no clue what about per capita?
I don't think so.
I do not know.
I was a little bit worried.
I was a little bit worried.
Alabama's not high up on the list of states that are listening to this particular program on YouTube and everything like that.
So, you know, as it kind of added up, it was like,
I do not want us to be sitting out in front of, you know,
that would be very difficult.
Yeah, 15. 15 people, six people. I mean, that is tough. If we say, hey, we're going to be sitting out in front of, you know, that would be very difficult. Yeah, 15.
15 people, six people.
I mean, that is tough.
If we say, hey, we're going to be there and there's nobody,
that's a tough thing.
Yes.
That would probably have me never do another live show.
I've been with me a long time.
That probably is a medium.
All right, fuck, never doing that again.
Never doing that again.
But we will be simulcasting a la the college football playoff
and the national championship at the Texas-Alabama game
Saturday night in Tuscaloosa as well.
So we'll be there Friday for our show.
Then Saturday night we'll be Texas-Alabama on the sideline,
I believe, with microphones again.
And then hopefully game day.
I genuinely do not know.
And Kirk Herbstreet, he said, feels like probably, but he doesn't know either.
Game day might be there as well.
Should be a massive, massive weekend down there,
and we cannot wait to kick it off on Friday, AJ.
I mean, what other games are going on where game day would go somewhere else?
Iowa State.
Oh, that's true, Ty.
That's true.
Penn State, West Virginia.
True.
Duquesne, West Virginia.
That's week three. And it's West Virginia, Duquesne, West Virginia. That's week three.
And it's West Virginia, Duquesne would be that week.
That's going to be a close one.
I think there's another one.
There's a big one.
Because I saw a couple people respond to the video.
Because Kirk Herbstreit saying yesterday,
feels like that's probably where game day is going to be as well.
Made its way around the college football conversation.
And I think I saw one particular game other people were talking about
on a very regular basis that could potentially derail it going there.
But Texas with Quinn Ewers, Arch Manning's on the team too.
Bama trying to establish a QB.
Feels like that would be a game regardless if ESPN had it
or another game had it,
which I think a lot of people kind of blow out of proportion there too.
Everybody thinks just because the way rights have kind of gone
with college football to different places and what ESPN –
although ESPN has bid, I think, on – ESPN has tried to be in, I think, on a lot.
What they ended up with was the SEC package
from CBS.
And a lot of people were like, oh, so that's what game day is going to be.
Everything I've been told from people
that know game day a lot better than I do,
it's like, nah, game day is always going to be
like, whatever the biggest fucking game is,
let's go to the biggest fucking game.
Doesn't matter.
We'll be very appreciative
if it's a lot easier i think
if like another like however that whole thing works out but i like to hear that yeah you know
because that's like the world changes that would be like a big corpo decision that would get made
and make sense why are we bringing our hype train to a game that we're not even going to reap the
benefits from right that makes no sense like business-wise if you just look at it from
this to this. But from what I've been
told, it's like, we don't care.
College football is...
We celebrate college football. I love
that. I'm a big fan of that.
I think that was really good to hear whenever we were
in the entire process
of figuring out where the show was going to go.
No bias. It is what it is.
Game Day is the biggest show in town on Saturdays.
It doesn't matter what other networks are popping up.
Hey, it's a cool thing.
This is the first thing.
Every school wants that.
Yeah, legit.
Every school wants game day to come.
And they all show up and show out for game day.
Because they don't get to go everywhere, you know what I mean?
So I think it would be really dope if they can, you know what I mean?
Keep going to the big game.
Yeah.
I think so, too.
And showcase is a thing.
I mean, last year we were in Jackson, Mississippi.
Then we're in Montana.
Yeah, Montana.
You know, like listening to the people that have been around the show the longest,
they're like, these are the ones that you'll remember.
Like these are, you know what I mean?
It's like a cool.
Do they ever go places, though, where the game is not carried on ES not carried on espn yeah yeah yeah that's what i was literally just saying
they do that actually okay yeah like my first game ohio state michigan uh yeah ohio state
michigan we went down to texas my first week texas was playing on fox yeah yep i think it
was texas bama texas yeah it was bama texas i think that was on fox that was like the first
week i was on the show last year so So it is a very – it happens.
That doesn't seem to make financial sense, but it's good they do it.
I'm glad they do it.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Like whenever they mentioned that, I was like, that's thinking like –
that's thinking with content in mind.
Yes.
As opposed to just numbers in mind,
which a lot of people you talk to in this game these days,
only talking about numbers, this only helps why are we doing that and that's
a lot of people made a lot of money doing things that way but we're a big like let's just make good
shit yeah and then everything else you know what i mean i care about that more than anything so to
hear them kind of process that and talk about that i was like i like where your head's at because i
think that'll trickle into other decisions yeah that are being made as well you know like that's a pretty that's a pretty big
deal i think yeah it should i mean you would think like it wouldn't even be a question like
yeah hey we're only going to espn games that we're doing like you would think but that's awesome that
they don't it really is i never i i guess i never really thought about it too much i know kirk would
sometimes fly from game day to go do other games a lot.
It's not always where he's doing the game, but yeah, I like it.
Well, just also think about like have to take an entire truck there,
even though you would have trucks at another place already,
because you've got to call that game.
Right, yeah.
So like the production truck, the stage, the travel, the trucks, everything.
Plus getting a space.
Like it's not your game.
So like the network that has your game has access and rights to a lot of stuff
because they've got to get shots for the game.
So now you've also got to find a spot that is game day worthy.
It's like the amount of work that goes into just setting up one game,
let alone at another.
But they said we'll continue to do it.
I'm like, hell yeah.
All right.
Hey, I love everything about it, man.
And that's what's crazy too too, is some of the spots
that you guys went to last year,
they've never gone. Like the Montana,
Montana State, I'm not sure. That was crazy.
Kansas, getting that stuff to
those places is absurd.
Shout out Tommy, the truck driver, and the
boys and ladies over there.
App State. Getting to App State
in one of those big-ass trucks and hauling
all that equipment, that's impossible. I got so car sick getting from airport to App State in one of those big ass trucks and hauling all that equipment that's impossible
I got so car sick getting from airport to
App State
going up the mountain
just going up man beautiful place though
beautiful scenery
worth the view
but getting there is a thing
I don't know what fan base was trying to
push their narrative
there's not another game do we want to we don't have the information but this is like one of those
things where people on the internet just break news that they assume is going to happen and then
it probably ends up coming right and they had the news all along but really it was just a guess
prediction yeah right just say per sources and then you're good you can say anything after you
say that it's like with all due respect.
I think with
all due respect is done having any weight at all.
I think people get pissed off whenever they say that.
They should. It's still been played for me.
Sources, though, potentially
assuming. Yep.
Alluding to. With all due respect. Game day
probably going to be Texas,
Alabama. You would assume.
Yeah, there you go. Could you imagine maybe if something happens week one, two?
We're not saying that.
No.
We're just saying you start piecing these dots together.
Exactly.
And then our show is going to be there in the summer.
Oh, let's go.
Here we go.
That scared me a little bit.
But because all the data and analytics say this is not the right move,
but I'm appreciative of whoever makes the trip.
What a good time.
Imagine we have a good amount of people there.
Yeah, we will.
That Friday show is going to be stupid.
Could you imagine if Quinn Ewers might not play
and we get to watch Arch Manning's first game ever
as a collegiate athlete?
His trading cards are going for like $100,000.
$1.5 million. one yeah whatever the hell it was
good for him dude yeah beast hey what do you what do you got for your uncles uh who knows
who could that be what if it was peyton probably gary v what if it was what if it was peyton or
archie like hey this is how we got to build the value it's like jay-z allegedly for his artists he used to like buy
however many albums so they automatically get to platinum or whatever yeah so that everybody thinks
that the album is good like it was a form of marketing by spending your own money on your
own albums so that whenever people heard that it got to a certain point it was like oh this got to
be good so then everybody else would kind of buy it.
Not a bad play.
Not a bad play there.
That's good business.
Speaking of good business, Dalvin Cook has signed a one-year deal with the New York Jets, A.J. Hawk.
Aaron Rodgers gets another weapon.
Brees Hall cleared off the PUP list today.
Back at practice.
Looks good.
Striding out.
Salah was happy to see him.
He was incredible last year whenever he was healthy for the first half of the season or so. He was a rookie.
We should expect that he's going to be great again.
And what does the addition of Dalvin
Cook do for the New York Jets in your
eyes, A.J. Hulk?
Think of just all the different
I'd put both these guys in there. I'd have a package
where they're both in there at the same time together.
Maybe both in the backfield. Let's motion one out.
Put them in the slot. Do this. I mean, look
how good Dalvin Cook is, obviously catching the ball
and finding a way to make people miss and run away from the whole defense.
So him and Brees Hall together, even if their O-line takes a little bit
to kind of gel and get together and figure everything out,
I think these two guys absolutely buy him some time.
AJ, I mentioned this in the first hour.
If they had Dalvin Cook and Brees Hall, and we're assuming Brees Hall
is going to be as good as his advertising as he was last year, and we're assuming that Dalvin Cook
will be able to be as good as he was just last year,
even with a marginal quarterback.
No offense.
You would assume that some offensive coordinator could figure out
how to be successful with those two great running backs.
Like it might not be what everybody else in the NFL is doing,
but somehow you should be able to figure out how to be efficient and good
with those two talented guys on the field at the same time.
Then you add in this fucking four-time MVP in there.
You know, and then Garrett on the outside,
obviously you guys know him out of Ohio State.
We watch Hard Knocks.
There's a new episode tonight, but you see the highlights on the whole thing.
He looks like he's going to be a dude.
Then you see Lazard. He looks like he's going to be a dude. Then you see Lazard.
He looks like a fucking defensive end
out there.
Mecole Hartman.
I completely forgot about Mecole Hartman.
Hey, there's a real...
Right?
You're right. Without Aaron Rodgers on the roster,
you'd be like, man, they have some studs
all over the place. We're not even talking about
the defense that much,
and their defense can be great this year.
They really could.
And I think they'll feed off the offense, too.
It'll make them – can you imagine the defense and the Jets knowing – let's say the first series, the first game, A-Rod just drives him down.
Boom, boom, score.
Here we go.
Defense gets a turnover.
They jump out to an early lead.
I know they're playing Buffalo week one.
It's going to be tough.
But I just think their defense will feed off of what Aaron brings to that offense.
I think offense will feed as well.
Could you imagine getting a short field?
Yeah, there you go.
You get a short field.
Like, okay, defense backs them up.
They got a punt.
They're getting the ball at the 45.
Aaron Rodgers is getting the ball at the 45.
What?
Going in with all those.
Like, that's good.
You know what I mean?
I like the fact that Joe Douglas, too, notices this and realizes, like, hey,
because $8.6 million, I don't know what we all thought he was going to get paid.
I guess there's probably a contingency of people that say more.
Allegedly, the Vikings offered him $7 million,
so it's $1.6 million more than what the Vikings offered.
But getting Dalvin for $8.6 million, what a move.
I think it's a good deal for Dalvin at this stage of the calendar.
I think it's a good deal for the Jets this stage of the calendar. I think it's a good deal for the Jets.
This feels like a win-win-win pack.
And it shows Dalvin want to win.
We already know he's getting $2 million from the Vikings
from when they released him.
So he already getting that money this year.
So go somewhere where you can win.
He said he wanted to win.
He went on his tour, and I think this is the place where he think he can win.
What was his trainer talking about?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you remember his trainer.
Leverage.
Just leverage, right?
Just leverage.
Yep.
For who?
For Dalvin.
Say now you never know.
You got to come to the table.
If you want him to come to New York, you got to pay us more.
Oh, see, I thought the leverage would have been lost on their side
because the Jets were like, what the fuck?
Why is this?
We just gave you a full.
And then we got your.
Well, and didn't the agent give him a nice little pee-pee whack after he
said that? Like, hey, shut up.
We're not doing this. This is my domain.
They deleted that. And then Gumpy
got him in trouble because Gumpy was like...
It was on the internet.
I saw it. My name's Gumpy. Joining us now,
ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is
back in a city in which he dominated
as a football player.
This time he's not playing.
No, no, he's coaching.
Ladies and gentlemen, the brand-new head coach of the Houston Texans,
an absolute legend, D'Amico Ryan.
Yeah!
What's up, guys?
What's up, coach?
Hey, is that how friends call you coach now?
Like immediately upon going to the coaching level,
you just become coach to everybody?
Or how should I refer to you, coach? Instantly. Everybody calls me coach now like immediately upon going to the coaching level you just become coach to everybody or how should i refer to you coach instantly everybody calls me coach now okay i love that
coach how are the vibes down there in h town obviously whenever you guys make the moves that
you made on draft night and in the off season for free agency there seems to be a nice positive
refreshing vibe around the houston texans in fan base. Where are you at within the building, establishing culture,
all of that shit, Coach?
Yeah, I mean, first off, man, the city is excited.
They're fired up.
We're fired up, right, to be here in Houston.
Family will be back in Houston, so we're pumped.
The building is excited.
Like, you feel the energy.
Every day I come into the building, from the first day that I was hired until now.
It's just continued to be great energy from everyone in the organization.
And we're just continuing to feed off of that.
Players are picking up their energy, intensity and practice.
And it's definitely headed in the right way.
Hell, yeah. Go ahead, AJ.
I know you've been you've been coaching for a little while now.
First time becoming a head coach. Is it what you expected?
I guess now that you're the guy leading the charge,
like, is this what you thought it would be?
Hey, you always have an idea of how things are going to go.
I think for the most part, things have been ran fairly smoothly.
I think it all starts with, you know,
the GM having Nick Casario on my side
and being able to work in tandem with him.
That's really been a huge help for me, right?
Wouldn't have wanted to go anywhere else, right, to have a guy with the experience that Nick has had.
It's really provided me a lot of comfort in handling this position.
And also the coaching staff that I have, I have surrounded myself with awesome guys, good guys to work with.
It's going well. I think the one thing from the coaching aspect that you don't really feel from the coordinator level or coaching level is and having to do a lot of administrative things like scheduling and
probably doing a lot more interviews than I had to do before so it's all of those things when I
just want to tell these guys just let me go coach football and you guys figure out that schedule
stuff and I'll get back to that later okay Okay. So let's talk about that because obviously you probably don't have to do a
lot of shit like this.
So,
Hey,
we appreciate your time.
Appreciate your time coach.
I know there's a lot of other stuff that you're going to have to do and
you'll be judged upon whether or not your team is able to pull it off or
not.
Is it,
is it as exigent as everybody makes it out to be coaching in the NFL,
just head coaching in the NFL as demanding attention-wise as you could have expected?
Is there any preparation that anybody could have told you
to be ready for this particular job?
Or is it just once you get dropped in there,
it's a little bit of a baptism by fire?
It's definitely baptism by fire.
No one can prepare you for all the things that come across my desk
like each and every day.
Like every day is different, which is exciting.
That's the exciting part of it.
Each day is never the same day.
There's never a dull moment.
Like there's always the grind and the work that goes in the ball.
But always you have to be on your toes and you have to be on point.
I was talking to Coach Mike McDaniels the other day.
It's just like, man, you always have to be on point and on point and ready to go for any and everything possible that may come across your desk.
You're coming out of that incredible coaching tree up there in San Francisco,
obviously, and there's been a lot of success out of that.
And the Shanahan kind of tree is blossoming quickly all across
and around the NFL.
What have you been able to take away from the Niners organization?
Or what have you been able to take away from being the coordinator for the Niners into the Houston building and how much
have you been able to figure out your own lane as well? I think the first thing I think I take
from the San Francisco way is and it was a proven model that we had a lot of success there right and
we played and deep into the playoffs multiple years there. We were able to be fortunate enough to go to one Super Bowl.
So I've seen what it looks like, what a championship culture looks like
and how you build it.
When I first started in San Francisco, we started off 0-9
and to see how we improve year after year and to see where that team is now
and how you go through the draft process. How do you acquire talent?
Like, man, I learned so many things from John and from Kyle
and just how to build it the right way.
So I was happy to have, you know, be in an organization that started off rough
and it was a new regime and it started off rough,
but to see it change in two, three years, to see everything change
and see the success they're having.
And that's what I'm looking to implement here. Not, not an 0-9 start for sure,
but definitely looking to implement just the winning way. Like, how do you practice? Like,
that's one thing that we harped on in San Francisco is like deliberate practice every day. Every rep
is full speed. It's all game reps. So when you get into the game,
you're not worried about turning it up
or, man, we got to get hype for the game.
Like in San Fran, those practices were competitive
each and every day.
And we got into a game,
some games we were able to dominate our opponent
just because of our preparation.
That's a very veteran mindset though.
You know, like that is, I think as you get older,
you know, there's some older guys that take G days every day and they're on
the golf cart. I get it. It depends on what
places allow and what they don't allow and what
each person potentially needs.
But as you get older, there's practice reps
seemingly become just as important
as the game reps to the older guys
that can figure it out. You've got a lot of young guys,
especially at big time positions.
How have the rookies been? Obviously you guys make that trade to go up for number three as well. So. You got a lot of young guys, especially at big time positions. How have the rookies been?
Obviously, you guys make that trade
to go up for number three as well.
So you got a rook on the offensive side
that's going to lead things, CJ.
And then obviously, Will, on the other side,
how are the young guys?
And what do you think you need to see
out of them this year?
A lot, feels like, right?
I mean, a lot of pressure on the young guys.
Yeah, with the young guys, man,
they've been as advertised.
Like, it was important for us to get, you to get both of those guys, and we got them. Will and CJ, they've been everything
we could have asked for, just the mindset that these guys have. They want to be great, right?
And it starts there. For a player to be great, you have to actually want it, and you have to
want to put the work in to do it. And that's what you see from Will, CJ. Like, their work ethic is, man, it's off the charts.
So I'm very proud of the way these guys work.
And with that mindset, they're only going to improve
and continue to grow and get better.
Young guys coming in, we know it takes time.
And those guys, well, they'll fit in just fine.
I'm happy to have both of them.
CJ threw that pick.
Yeah, bad one.
It's a bust.
See you. Yeah.
That's what
I read on the internet.
I don't know if you got time for the internet
these days as a head coach of an NFL team.
We'll keep you updated. CJ ain't going to be able
to do it. Threw a pick.
Man. Guess the quarterback
never thrown a pick before.
Not her first preseason game ever against New England.
Bill Belichick.
Yeah, the whole thing is interesting.
But I like the way CJ seemed to be very comfortable.
And this sounds like such a little thing,
but I know you guys are all looking at it too.
Breaking the huddle, the poise.
There was no illegal shifts or snaps before somebody got ready.
Looked like a professional. And then as the game continues to slow down we're excited to watch him i guess
you would be more pumped to watch him evolve as well because you know he's your your fucking
quarterback your defensive guy though he's offensive guy what's your relationship like
is that interesting or no you you try to build up with him how's it go oh yeah i build i'm not
i'm not a defensive guy anymore am i hell yeah it's all
hey head coach man i'm an offensive guy when we're on offense and i'm defense when we're on defense
so that's how i rock and i told the guys that yesterday like i don't want to build a culture
where it's offense defense split like hey i started my career my football career on the offense
and you want to know the position? Yeah. Center.
Yeah.
It's really nice.
Hey, that's good leverage.
You know what I mean?
That's good leverage.
Those big boys are going to be happy to hear that, though.
Immediately, the offensive lineman goes,
oh, this guy knows how fucking miserable we are.
He truly gets it, you know, not trying to ruin him.
I love that, though.
It sounds like the transition is going seemingly over there for you.
Yeah, it's going really well, man.
I have a really good relationship with the offensive side,
with CJ, with Davis, all the quarterbacks.
Make sure I communicate with those guys, talking to them in practice.
So it's making sure I'm the head coach
and making sure that they understand that it's not just,
oh, he's a defensive head coach.
That's what I want to get out of their minds and let them know that we're all in this team together.
It can be a little split sometimes, and I assume you've heard about that and seen it.
I like that you're attacking that from the beginning.
Pac-Man has a question for you, Coach.
What's up, Coach?
What's up, Pac?
What's up?
I had a chance to come to your practice last year and send a friend the vibe,
and we talked a good little bit about the culture of what you like.
My question is, how are you in playing your culture into the locker room?
Because it wasn't like that the year before.
And I talked to J. Joe.
He said Jalen Prate, the DB, is looking pretty good.
What's your thoughts on that?
Yeah, I think, first off, when it starts with the culture pack,
it starts with the guys that you bring in, right? So that's why it was important to me to add, you know, Jimmy Ward, Sheldon Rankins, Hassan Ridgeway, the guys who I've
been around before, veteran guys who know what winning looks like, Robert Woods, like guys who
they understand what winning looks like. So you put those guys in
the locker room and when it comes to the culture, I think it's a daily fight to really teach
and show these guys on what does practice look like, right? What are the habits we want to have
off the field? How are we attacking the region with our bodies? Like it's just all encompassing,
it's a daily grind to teach guys.
So that culture changes just doesn't happen overnight,
but adding the right guys to your locker room,
the guys change the culture.
Not just what I say,
but it's having those guys.
They are the culture.
They are the culture.
That's what it's about.
It's always about the men in the locker room.
So adding a guy like will,
right. That's the guy like Will, right?
That's the guy who I want guys to look to.
That's what our locker room is going to be made of.
And that's how you build it. And when it comes to, you know, as J. Joe mentioned,
is Jalen Petrie.
He's been outstanding, right?
This guy has, man, he plays with his hair on fire
every day at practice.
It's just fun watching him as such a young player, watching him and Jimmy Ward
work together in tandem. It's fun to watch. Kind of have to try
to slow these guys down out there because they are flying around making plays all over the
field. Hey, you'd rather have to say, whoa, than go, right?
No doubt. No doubt. That's it. Yeah, go ahead, AJ.
Oh, go ahead, coach. I'm sorry. Go doubt. That's it. Yeah. Go ahead, AJ.
Oh, go ahead, coach.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead. You can finish.
Yeah.
Fuck me.
Yeah.
No, that's like, and that's why we talk about that culture, right?
Building like Peachtree, like the way he practices.
And I just continue to show clips and practice.
I mean, this is what it looks like.
Every rep is important to this guy.
Every rep.
He wants to make every play.
He's going to attack the ball.
That's what winning culture looks like.
Look at DB showing up, huh?
Yeah.
They just say he's a dog.
You like him?
Yeah.
I like him.
Petrie, we know who he is.
Yeah.
From?
Jalen?
Yep, from?
Where the hell did he play?
Baylor.
Oh, Baylor.
Baylor.
Baylor?
Baylor.
Yeah, he's a rookie. Big 12 defense guy. He's the guy setting the standard over Baylor. Oh, Baylor. Baylor, okay. Baylor? Baylor. Yeah, he's a rookie last year.
Big 12 defense guy.
He's the guy setting the standard over there.
He's the clip guy.
Love that.
Hey, let's go.
How about it?
I love everything.
That's what I heard.
That's what I heard right there.
I love to hear.
Hey, Petrie, let's go, bub.
Here we go.
I love everything you're about.
Go ahead, AJ.
Have you kind of figured out exactly what your game day operation is going to be as
the head coach now that you're not going to be there calling the defense?
I know you brought in Matt Burke as your defensive coordinator there.
How is that going to work?
Is it going to be tough not to step in every once in a while or try to really micromanage those situations?
I don't like that.
It was good having that first run this past week, man, versus the Patriots.
And Matt called the defense.
Bobby, of course, handled the offense.
Then Frank handled our special team.
So when it came to the defensive side, you know, I let Bert call it.
He did a great job, and we worked in tandem.
So if there were any, you know, conversations or things that came up,
any situational football, what type of calls would we go with,
me and him having a conversation on the sideline and working in tandem,
and it worked very smoothly, man.
I really love working with all our coaches on game.
There was a smooth process.
And it was fun to see how all of our coaches were communicating, working together, really
attacking the game on game day.
It was fun to be around.
Swarming.
Isn't that your thing, swarm?
That's it.
Yeah, that's it, man.
Swarm is something i started you know
back in san fran and uh the swarm mentality it all started with as we talked about the culture
and the type of guys you want to be around that swarm mentality is just an acronym for i want
to build my team with guys who have a special work ethic and a relentless mindset. That's where the swarm mentality came in.
Special work ethic and relentless mindset.
Hell yeah.
Fuck yeah, dude.
Hey, that's awesome.
So you like the word swarm.
Let's go back to the development of this.
You like the word swarm, and then you had to think to yourself,
what does swarm mean?
What does it mean what does it what
is it what does it mean to me and then you start piecing special work ethic and relentless mindset
fucking book it send it hey that's genius that is very how'd you get to swarm and you're still
is this going to be in every is this like the texans motto now that's what it is for right now
all right well i think as i build it out it all starts like i talked about with the people you Texans motto now? That's what it is for right now.
I think as I build it out, it all starts, like I talked about,
with the people you want.
As I start out, that's where we are now.
That's what the Texan culture will be about, swarming.
And it's attacking everything.
Of course, swarm is all-encompassing, but to me it involves teamwork.
It involves how you attack issues and swarming this thing all together.
How are you going to attack a defense or offense?
Man, it's those 11 guys out there swarming together on the field.
So it's all encompassing for me.
Coach, you got a good one there.
I think that's a good one.
Oh, yeah.
You know, they say like, keep it simple, stupid.
All those things.
The coach, there's so much like so much coach stuff.
That's swarm one. Hey, that's a good one. Keep it. That is a good one. I appreciate it, stupid. Bingo. Oh, the coach, there's so much, like, so much coach stuff. That swarm one.
Hey, that's a good one.
Keeper.
That is a good one.
I appreciate it, man.
Hell, yeah, maybe you're supposed to coach.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Maybe you're supposed to coach.
You always knew you were going to be a coach?
Yeah, it started out, man, during the lockout year.
You guys remember that lockout year, 2000, 2011?
That's where I was. I was rehabbing. I tore my Achilles.
I was rehabbing during that process. Couldn't be here to work out.
So I went back home, Alabama, and I started working with our high school, my old high school, and started coaching those kids through a spring game.
And those kids had won a long time and never won. They had won a game in a year or so.
And those kids had won in a long time.
They had won a game in a year or so.
And, man, I got out there, started working with those kids,
and we put together a nice little plan, went out and won a spring game. And to see the excitement on those kids' faces when we won, I was like,
oh, yeah, this is it.
Like, I want to continue this process.
Didn't know it would turn into this.
Didn't know I would be a fucking defensive genius.
Didn't know that I'd be able to create swarm and motivate the hell out of
people.
Yeah, didn't know, but it is a nice little perk though, isn't it?
Nice little perk at the start.
Yeah, it is, man.
And it all started coaching.
It all started with me was just really, man,
just want to go back and help younger guys.
So I thought I would do it on a high school level.
But then it was like, man, if I can get the opportunity to do it in a league, why not?
So Sam Friend, Kyle allowed me to come in.
Kyle and Robert Sala allowed me to come in and work with those guys.
And I actually learned what coaching was actually about that first year.
And I understood the grind of coaching and how I didn't know anything about
coaching and I had to figure it out very quickly,
but I just enjoy helping these young men.
That's what it's all about for me.
See, I think you should have got a head coaching job immediately.
One spring game, right?
The head coach, Jeff Saturday, you know what I mean?
Jeff Saturday, just make it.
We love Jeff.
I was happy for him. Had to happen. Connor to that point though. I think Connor has Saturday just make it. We love Jeff. I was happy for him.
It had to happen.
Connor, to that point, though, I think Connor has a question for you.
Yeah, Coach, you mentioned some of the stuff you've got to do
as a head coach with interviews and scheduling and stuff,
but sometimes when guys go from DC or OC to head coach,
they kind of change a little.
Recently with Robert Sala, you just mentioned him,
that first year in New York it felt like he wasn't the jovial
Niners D coordinator he was, and it kind of took him a year until his second year in New York where
he became what we thought was kind of similar to who he was in San Fran have you found it difficult
at all going to you know the head coach role and still remaining the same you know coach type that
you were in San Francisco obviously you got to work more with the offense and the team as a whole,
but is that difficult at all or has it been so far?
You know, it hasn't been difficult.
One thing I tell myself throughout this process becoming a head coach is
I'm going to be me and I'm going to do it my way, right?
And I just believe in being positive, energetic every single day,
and I want my team to feel that from me.
So every time I
step up in front of those guys, it's high energy. I'm bringing it when you're on practice. I'm at
guys, I'm yelling at guys. I'm intense out there on the field. That's how I was as a D coordinator.
And I'm the same as a head coach. I'm barking at the offense, the defense. Like I want guys
to play with some intensity and passion because that's who I am.
So I want our team to exude that person, my personality to show up in our team.
Is there music playing at practice? Oh yeah. We got music playing. We got all the guys,
you know, provided a song, their favorite song. And so we just run a playlist. It's just different
songs for what all the guys, it's all about the players and what they want to listen to at practice.
So that's what we listen to.
Has there been a song yet where everybody was like, who the fuck?
Has there been one of those?
You had a pretty good.
We feel pretty good about the players.
I really, I think they've been too tired to even understand what's being played.
How is it?
How is camp?
You run a tough camp?
You feel like you have to have a tough camp, right?
Yeah, you have to have a tough camp. And we have a different element here with the heat, the humidity here in Houston.
It's definitely it's a beast out here. So our guys, they're getting it in and nobody complains.
Guys put the work in. So it's fun to watch these guys work.
You guys joint practicing and how are those not fights every period?
Yeah, it's funny you bring it up.
We're actually joint practicing.
Our first one will be tomorrow, and we'll go Wednesday and Thursday versus the Dolphins.
So how is it not a fight?
We just let guys know up front.
We want to actually use these joint practices to get better, right, going against different schemes, different people.
We don't want to waste time and energy fighting because there's nothing, nothing to gain from this. So we really want
to attack it head on and make sure we get, get the opportunity to take advantage of these days
and not waste our time. Oh, just don't take me down to the ground. Don't take me down to the
ground. You know, it just, if from covering them now, because they're much more prevalent, it feels like, in the NFL now
than they were back in the day when I was playing,
when you guys started, the whole thing, you know what I mean?
It feels like it's much different.
And all it is for us as Internet people is just like fight after fight after fight.
And then you start thinking about it.
It's like, how is it not a fight?
And you don't have to say this because you're one of the head coaches in the NFL,
but I think me as a fan now, if the Colts have a joint practice for three days with a team
and there's pads and there isn't a fight, I think, like, as a fan, I'm going to be like,
you know, what the fuck is wrong?
What is wrong with our team?
It feels like there should be a little bit more somewhere.
But if you guys are able to control it, I think it's only going to make the teams better and better.
And we love it, Coach.
Thank you for that speech.
Hey, last question here for you from Ty.
Yeah, Coach, obviously you know when you get into the league, the goal is to win.
And if you don't win, you're not going to be around very long.
But when you come into a new situation, you have a whole new regime.
Like you mentioned it, you're going to have a lot of young guys who need to kind of contribute and make an impact early. How do you set realistic expectations within, like, your coaching room
and also within the team?
For me, when you talk about it, I understand, like, the urgency, right,
about being in the league and having this position.
So I don't take that lightly.
And as I come into the situation, man, we are trying to attack everything every day.
Like, we are attacking this to win.
I know there are some guys who have to grow and develop, but, hey,
like I told the guys, too, like, we're running out of time.
Like, it's time to go.
It's time to go and compete, line up on Sundays.
Like, we're going to win games.
We're not going to develop talent.
Like, we're going to win games.
When you talk to guys on our team, like veterans, like Laramie Tunsil,
Robert Woods, like Malik Collins, Sheldon Rankin,
they're not trying to develop talent.
Like, we're trying to go win games.
That's what the league is about, and that's what we're going to do.
That's what we're going to put out there,
a winning mindset in everything that we do.
Coach, I fucking love you, buddy.
It sucks, though, that you've got to play the Colts two times a year.
It's going to be tough.
You know what I mean?
I know you guys are going to see it.
You're not there anymore.
You're right.
You're actually right.
So we got a chance.
We got a chance.
Yeah, you're right, Coach,
because that's what teams are worried about in the AFC South.
They still got Pat McAfee up there.
Boy, we're fucked.
That's what they actually thought.
I think, though, CJ, this
young class of quarterbacks and this young generation
of quarterbacks, I think the league is in
great hands, coach, and I know you have to go,
but I feel like we're in a great spot. You feel like that
with your guy, right? I assume you've been
around a lot of great football,
and you're going to have to say this, but
as a fan, it feels like we got a great
young group of quarterbacks right now in the NFL.
Oh, it's fun to see, man.
It's time for that next group, right, to come up and take over.
And it's fun to see all these young guys coming up, right, different levels of talent.
But it's exciting, right?
I think the most exciting part about the new regime of quarterbacks is just the athleticism at the quarterback position.
And that's what's changing in the league.
That's where it's going.
Not all the typical dropback quarterbacks,
but these guys being able to move and make plays with their feet,
it's more exciting for the game, more challenging on defenses,
but it's fun to watch.
And I'm fired up for these young guys and the opportunity to see them
change the league is going to be a beauty to see.
Dude, CJ was able to evade a couple sacks, too,
in that first preseason game.
People forget about that whole thing.
Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Houston Texans legend,
D'Amico Reyes.
Thank you, coach.
Yeah, coach!
Did we do it again?
What?
We talked to him until 1.58.
Yep.
Does he have a meeting?
He had a hard out?
Does he have a meeting? Probably. At 2 o'clock? He's a58. Does he have a meeting? Does he have a hard out? Does he have a meeting?
At 2 o'clock?
Does he have a meeting?
The whole team is sitting there waiting for him to walk in the front door.
Because then we're fucking up the culture.
Yeah.
Because if he's showing up late to a meeting, he's the head coach.
Boy, that has a ripple effect for the rest of his regime.
They're probably all watching in the room, though.
He probably didn't get there at 1.30.
Yeah.
In the minute, 36.
Yeah, I think you're right.
He knows.
Plus, this is what you want to do as a Colts fan.
I mean, you're trying to get in that business.
Yeah.
Smart.
Stir it up.
Yeah.
This is like when people thought that the Cleveland Browns owner
was paying so much money because the rest of the people in the division
couldn't pay the amount of money that he could pay.
We thought it was next level chess that old buddy was playing.
Everybody's mad at me for $230 million.
Okay, fuck you.
You think Bengals are going to be able to do it, bro?
No.
You think Ravens are going to be able to do that with Lamar Jackson?
No.
You think Steelers will do that with any other quarterback?
No.
I just fucking ran the business right out of the division.
Whoops.
Sorry.
Sorry, I'm playing up here and you're not.
No, the Ravens did.
The Bengals will.
And that's a complete backfire.
Worst contract, people are saying, in a long time.
But that's what we could have potentially been doing there.
Ruining the culture before it even starts.
I wasn't trying to do that.
But with that being said, I told him,
Colts are still a fucking problem.
Colts are still a problem.
And he was worried about me.
Still doing it.
Send that invoice to Jim now.
Yeah, absolutely.
Hey, he he looks he's
early there he said everything that every head coach that we've ever talked to has said like all the administrative shit that's starting to come across my desk yeah i mean i haven't done
some of this stuff since i've been married you think i've worried about any of this shit while
i'm coaching football my entire life no, you need to set up a schedule.
Ask my wife.
What are you talking about?
My wife has everything scheduled.
When I work at this time and then when I get home, she has it down.
I sleep from this time to this time.
I get to see the kids for this time, and then I come back into work.
What do we even schedule?
I haven't seen one of these in years.
Somebody's probably supposed to make this and put it in front of me.
What are you talking about me?
Well, how much time do you want to have off?
Somebody should know that.
Oh, that's you.
The fuck?
Could you imagine getting dropped in there with no preparation?
That would be hilarious.
I mean, just Saturday.
Yeah, bingo.
Can you imagine all we had to deal with early on?
Wow.
All right, training room has a meeting with you.
About what?
I don't know.
Tape their fucking ankles?
Well, here's a bunch of people that have been late to training.
What do you want to do to this?
What do we normally do?
What?
Well, I don't know.
It's your call.
So much.
That's like 6.30 a.m. the first day.
That's what he's dealing with.
What do we normally?
Well, I don't know.
It depends.
You're the coach. It's 7 o'clock. What are we normally? Well, I don't know. It depends. You're the coach.
It's 7 o'clock.
Fucking max fight him.
Is that what everybody's supposed to do?
Well, nobody really does that because you're kind of viewed as an asshole.
Jesus.
All right, half fight him.
Half fight him.
That's now at 633.
Yeah.
Okay, the meal that's being served this morning.
What the fuck?
Feed him.
I don't know.
What are we eating?
Everybody eats. Bacon? Sausage What are we eating? Everybody eats bacon.
Sausage.
Do we not have a nutritionist?
Well, she puts together a plan.
You see, we got to actually pick the,
how much downtime in between walkthrough and practice or whatever?
I don't know.
What the fuck is the normal?
Figure it out, bro.
Two hours?
Well, that's not enough time for them to fully recover.
Well, people are going to get pissed though.
It's two hours.
We're going to get three hours.
That's way too long.
Okay. Does everybody have a fucking answer? pissed, though. It's two hours. Wait, three hours. That's way too long. Okay.
Does everybody have a fucking answer?
So much that is
not football. Did you hear D'Amico?
D'Amico said it the exact same way that Chuck Pagano
has said it. The exact same way, I think, that Kevin
O'Connell said it. The exact same way every human
that's come on our show that's become a head coach
is like, yeah, I get hired because
I'm fucking good at coaching ball.
And then I sit in a seat and the first 50 things I see every single day,
nowhere near coaching ball.
It is over here.
That's a crazy adjustment.
That's why Bill Belichick able to do that and GM at the level that he does
for how long he's been able to do it is like worthy of a praise
every time that you fucking think of it
honestly well and that's why his press conferences are the way they are i think just because it's
like okay the one thing that i can just not even think about just aimlessly just say nothing is
press conference and that's where i'm going to take my time i'm giving the same answer in every
one of these conversations yep and i'll run and mumble yeah i got four game plans to figure out
for this next game
because, remember, we change game plan every fucking quarter.
And then also I got to figure out what roster I'm going to have by next week.
What do you think of Mac Jones' development?
He's developing.
How's the offense this year versus last year?
Well, it's obviously a new year.
Do you like any of your players?
I like everybody the exact same do you yeah and then he's
and then he's back who am i picking exact same who am i picking on this team who's gonna be
number 50 fucking two on this roster yeah i mean that's so much shit yeah to have to deal how does
he and you're making you're making moves all year too the roster's not like hey it's we're set no
you're making moves almost every day i feel like they're always 16 players
on the practice squad now handle them yeah also have to negotiate i guess lead council does the
negotiation but still you're in in the middle of it all yeah thinking about somebody else's
50 second best player like being talked about and seeing if that best player is better than your 50
second best player it is not a job like laying brick or the military, cops.
We're not saying that, obviously.
Not like that at all.
But the amount of mental consumption that football has to take over
if you're at one of those jobs is absurd.
And Bill Belichick has had two of those jobs.
Yeah.
For 20-plus years.
But you don't deal with that until you're the head coach, though.
You're sheltered from a lot of that.
When you're a position coach and a coordinator,
every answer you could ever get,
hey, you got to talk to the head coach about that one,
like whatever comes to you.
You're the wide receiver coach,
so I'm going to ask you about the wide receivers.
How are the wide receivers doing?
Well, that's a good question for the coach.
That's a good question for the coach.
Because, you know, I obviously work with them on a lot of things.
I think they're doing great, but honestly, I'm
a little biased judgment. You're going to have to ask the head coach.
What are you guys doing this week with Bubba Buzz
reps? I'm obviously not in charge of that.
You're going to have to ask the coach.
In all of those, you're going to have to ask the coaches.
From the other coaches, from the players,
from the front office, you're going to have to ask
the coach. That's all just one desk.
Good luck out there.
Hope you win some games.
If you don't, you're getting fucking fired.
Same with you and your friends.
And joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man
that not too long ago hoisted this much bigger,
the actual version of this,
but it looked similar to this baby Lordo right here.
That's right.
He's a man who
has the first C in the history
of an entire franchise.
Hell yeah.
Whoa.
When they started a new program,
they said,
we'll know when our captain arrives.
And they did, didn't they?
Oh, yeah.
When this son of a bitch showed up,
they said,
this is the guy
that is going to lead our team.
And in the game, clincher.
Playoff round, clincher.
He had a hat trick, could have scored four.
If he would have scored four, we would have donated $100,000.
But instead, he led the Golden Knights to a Stanley Cup.
And donation of $250,000 is due by us because of this man.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Stoner.
Yes, sir!
Stoner, how you doing?
How you doing, pal?
Great.
Thanks for the hell of an intro there.
Hey, you deserved it.
How's the offseason been knowing that you guys hosted the actual one of these?
How's it been?
Has it been awesome?
Has life changed?
Have you felt just a different sense about you now that you've won this thing that you've desired since you were just a little baby boy skating on frozen ponds?
Have you felt a life changer since becoming a Stanley Cup champion, Stoner?
Yeah, definitely.
I'd be lying if I didn't say my life has changed, but it's been awesome.
We partied pretty good
for a little bit, took a break. We've been at each other's weddings lately, reminiscing,
so it's been great.
Oh my God. Weddings after the cup. Is everybody back? I should have done more research. Are
we back?
No, I mean, I'm still in Canada right now.
No, no, I'm talking about team, team contracts wise. Are we all back on the ice together?
Well, we unfortunately had to trade Riley Smith.
He's in Pittsburgh.
Oh, I forgot.
I'm a Golden Knights fan.
I'm a Golden Knights fan.
That's right.
A few other guys.
Blugers and where is he?
Vancouver, I think.
There's a few guys that aren't coming back,
but we're returning pretty much everybody.
We're going to be all right.
I love that vibes are high.
I love that you guys have gotten married.
Whenever you think about a $250,000 donation
because you guys win Lord Stanley Cup,
do you think to yourself,
I can't believe that just happened just as a throwaway comment now?
We're getting a chance to
really do something great here like i i was reminded of this within the last week because
it was like hey stoner's about ready to come back on and they figured out where they're that was a
good hey this is a good thing i'm pumped that we're i'm very thankful you guys won the stanley
cup and we're getting to do this have you decided where the money will go and what we're going to do with it?
And by the way, I would like to let you know, next year you guys do it again?
$500,000.
Hell yeah.
All right, so there's $250,000.
Where are we going with it and why, Stoner?
Yeah, I mean, I think when you brought it up, it was kind of so focused and dialed in
that, you know, kind of went in, not in one ear or the other, but kind of went over my
head a little bit.
But when we won, kind of thought back on it on it was pretty incredible for you guys to do this um
no no no we ended up deciding to uh to go with uh an organization in in las vegas uh called cure for
the kids um it's a outpatient cancer uh center um they I think, almost 400 patients a week. So we've done a lot of stuff
with them since we've, well, especially since I've been with the team. You know,
there's a couple of years where we weren't able to visit these types of places with the COVID
stuff going on. But, you know, we went back this year, and it's a special place not only for me but for my teammates,
our spouses, and the organization.
Hell yeah.
Hey, hell yeah.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Honored to be a part of it.
Go ahead, AJ.
Would you say winning the cup, does it give you more motivation
to go try to get another one, or do you think,
like you hear people talk about like the hangover after a team wins a super bowl or maybe they win a cup that they may sit back and rest a
little bit yeah i mean the summer's been been going by pretty quick but um looking back at all
the fun times we had it just makes me want to do it again you know especially our trophy's pretty
unique right um uh once uh once that season starts uh the only way to see it again is to win it again.
I think our team's pretty excited to get going.
I keep telling people I had so much fun doing it
that I just want to continue to try and do it again.
They say you get addicted to that confetti.
That's what they say.
It happens.
Aaron Donald was retired. He won a Super Bowl. He's like, maybe we addicted to that confetti. Yeah. That's what they say. It happens. Aaron Donald was retired.
Yeah.
And he won a Super Bowl.
And he's like, well, maybe, maybe we do this one more again.
Love it.
And Tom Brady, what are you still playing for?
He's like, well, you have no idea what that feels like.
Yeah.
Yes.
As many times as I do.
I can't wait to see what you guys do.
Pac-Man, obviously, massive fan, is excited to hear what he's hearing.
What do you got, brother?
Stone, first question.
Did you play in that championship game with a broke wrist?
And how many surges have you had to have since the game?
What happened?
Yeah, I unfortunately took a whack in the first period
and fractured my left wrist, I guess.
And, you know, took a few things in between periods
to make sure that she was good to go for the last one
because I didn't want to keep playing knowing that I did that.
So it was good to get that done.
Had to make sure it was dialed in to lift the trophy too.
Yeah, absolutely.
So if we look back, absolutely, Doug.
If we look back, it's going to be
a lot of right-hand dominant.
Is that what we're... If we look into
this, you don't seem to be
playing through any injury here in the
middle of this. Is it this one here?
It's the left, yeah.
Look how swollen that is.
Yeah.
Look at how little
baby I am. I need to watch this one.
I made sure I wasn't feeling much in the wrist during that celebration
Oh some of the in between period stuff
Potentially mixing with some other stuff
Love everything about that
Didn't you talk to us afterwards?
Did we talk to him?
Yeah
Why didn't you tell us?
Hey buddy he's had a broken wrist
A little bit of a run
It wasn't important Hey, buddies. Had a broken wrist. Broken fucking wrist. A little bit of a run. You didn't even.
You know what?
Go ahead.
It wasn't important.
Yeah, why is.
That is the hockey culture, though.
It's not like that anywhere else.
You know, like hockey, it feels like in 2023,
with how many eyes are on the data and analytics of health and medicine
and everything like that, they're the last one that's like, yeah,
he's got a lower body.
Fucking get over it.
Yeah, but that's a lot of things. Like, yeah, it's just down there. And then after the season ends one that's like, yeah, he's got a lower body. Fucking get over it. Yeah, but that's a lot of things.
Like, yeah, it's just down there.
And then after the season ends, it's like, this guy had actually two broken shins
and a fractured femur for like the last month.
It's like, what?
That's normally something that people would want out there.
But you guys, it's just the culture.
Like, yeah, this happens.
This is what hockey is.
We'll deal with it when we deal with it.
Is that just going to be hockey forever, you think? And why do you think your sport's so different than everywhere else? culture like yeah this happens this what hockey is we'll deal with it when we deal with it is that
just going to be hockey forever you think and why do you think your sport's so different than
everywhere else i don't know um i mean you look at the florida team i mean i'm pretty good friends
with the kachuks guy matthew played game four with a broken sternum which is one of the crazier
things i've ever heard uh clearly a reason why
he couldn't play game five but yeah lift him up and put him in his skates right that was that story
yeah i saw him maybe a week later the guy looked like the tin man i felt you know it's tough but
um i don't know i i think like most sports right but he just wants to win they'll do anything to
win and i think we're no different no no your sport is different people if that story came out about the stardom thing there'd be
lawsuits oh yeah law rules would have to change in our sport there'd be people protesting the
sport as a whole for sure i mean it's real deal and hockey is just like still something that is
revered and like toughness is appreciated like we respect that as like kind of, you know,
I don't want to feel like we yell at a cloud,
but we are kind of like old school people.
And hockey feels like it's the only one that has that left.
And I hope it never changes.
And to Chuck Young, right, Matt, any younger player?
Yeah, I think he's probably 25, maybe 26.
Still super young.
Yeah, but that's a generation of like, hey, I'm hurt.
Everybody needs to know this.
Next one.
I'm out.
You never know when you're going to win again, right?
You might never win.
So while you're there, you got to give it a try.
It's a great mentality.
I wish every sport would go back to it pretty much.
Ty, obviously, has lived and died with the Vegas Golden Knights
over the last six years.
Ty, go ahead, pal.
Yeah, I've been an absolute whirlwind.
But, God, what a season it was, Stoner.
So I appreciate that.
I'm just curious, going off like that conversation,
when you have a deep playoff run.
What's up, doggy?
What's up, doggy?
Hey, Stanley, sit.
Sit.
Sit.
When you have a deep playoff run like that,
and obviously you have the wrist and then everything that's been going on
with your back over the last couple years,
how long does it take your body to actually get back to somewhere close
to 100% before the start of the next season?
Or is that something where you'll never be 100% again?
Well, for me, yeah, it's a lot of maintenance, right? But, I mean,
I didn't play for, what was it,
three months before the playoffs,
so when it was over, I was actually kind of
disappointed. I was feeling good.
I wanted to keep going, but
I mean, obviously, that's stupid
to say because we
accomplished our goal, but
I've missed so much time
these last couple of years
that I feel good.
I want to keep playing now.
So I have a lot of maintenance, but I don't get to lift like I used to.
I don't get to work out like I used to, which, you know,
everybody gets older.
You got to kind of more maintain and strength strength.
Yeah. And with where your brain is right now yeah you know hey watching you i didn't know of your existence that long ago so i
do apologize for that obviously when ty would speak about stoner and aces yeah hey we got jackie
aces and stoner i knew the name before i knew of you. And then getting to watch you through the playoff run this year,
hey, you're a heady player.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, you're a heady player, pal.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
No, obviously, got to be a dog because everybody was trying to fight you guys
every single series.
So you're going to have to take some shots,
and obviously you have a broken wrist.
But I feel like right here, pal, is where the old stoner, you know,
is way, way ahead of others you
said you want to keep playing you feel energized how long we talking we talking till we're like 50
years old 60 years old or what stoner oh i always joke they're gonna have to peel my corpse off the
ice to get me out of there i want to keep playing till they don't let me play any longer you know
hell yeah i definitely don't uh i definitely don't do it with my feet, that's for sure.
I do it more with my brain.
So I think even if I slow down, it should be all right.
Hey, listen, if you ain't winning many races, blue line, blue line,
your brain's going to have to be a little bit.
And you figured it out.
And God damn, almost four goals.
I forgot about that.
As I was talking to you, I didn't do enough research on the entire story.
This guy almost got another 100,000 for scoring four goals in the playoffs.
You're an absolute dog, which is why I think Connor has a question for you.
Yeah, Stoner, you mentioned some of the weddings you went to,
and I believe Kachuk's brother got married.
And if memory serves me right from the internet,
I think you were in that wedding with Brady.
How was that?
Did the entire Kachuk family just give you the cold shoulder
and just treat you like shit because you stole the cup from Matt?
Or was it bygones be bygones, they were happy for you for winning?
Yeah, I mean, when I was playing in Ottawa,
Brady lived with me when he was 19, so that's how that connection started.
Got great respect for the family.
So they're one of the
most fun fun families uh out there so we had a pretty uh pretty good time um there's a respect
there right if we would have lost i would have been happy for him if we would have uh i mean i'm
happy we won but he i think uh there's very few people that uh you know, the Kachuks are okay with winning and losing to,
and I think I'm fortunate that I'm one of them.
Hell, yeah.
An honorable loss.
You know, that lad Stoner's a good one.
That's what they said to the Kachuk family.
That's right.
Whenever they were driving out of the arena.
You know, Stoner's a good one.
Stoner's a good one.
He'll play through a broken, you know.
That's right.
I mean, our boy had a broken sternum.
So, I mean, a little bit different.
That is wild.
He's crazy.
I remember them telling the story of,
they actually had to, like, pick his body up off the ground.
And then I think he had a goal or an assist.
I think he had, like, a point.
He scored a huge goal.
And it's like...
He played most of game three with the broken sternum,
and then he came back and played four with the broken sternum again.
So he actually played probably over almost two games.
Didn't he have a game winner in there at some point?
I think the Senate to OT.
Senate to OT, yeah.
And so in the second game, he knew he had a broken sternum.
Yeah.
First game, you don't hear – it's like, ah, man. It so in the second game, he knew he had a broken sternum. Yeah. First game, you don't hear it.
It's like, ah, man.
It's not Earth's.
It's the floor.
Oh, my God.
There's something really wrong going on.
Yeah, you know.
And then after the game, they're like, okay, so here's your x-ray.
This is really terrible.
Yeah.
Not good.
What is going on inside of your body right now is not good.
Oh, that's why I can't stand up.
So if somebody lifts my ass into fucking skates, I think I can still play.
I think I can still play.
I hope no one hits me.
NHL should be promoting the shit out of that.
Listen to the dudes we got in this league, okay?
We got guys that you got to actually take a shovel,
pick up their broken fucking carcass,
put in the skates,
and then they'll just, they'll hockey.
And then they'll just kind of come right back
off what a culture over there speaking culture i do believe the boys like the booze a little
tone has a question yeah speaking of culture speaking of potentially slowing down
has wild bill carlson slowed down at all or is he still getting dragged off of that stage
um after he was given that unbelievable unbelievable speech to remind people here
is the video, Stoner,
just in case you forgot about it.
You guys can hear me?
Yeah.
Yeah, you hear me?
So, this guy, this effing guy.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Yeah, we all do.
He was here. They know. Yeah, we all do. He was here
day one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Long time ago.
You have
been here day
fucking
one.
I'm gone. You guys are so amazing. won.
I'm proud.
You guys are so amazing.
We
played Arizona
in the first game
and we beat the shit
out of them.
Yeah.
You were there.
And I had no points. I had no points
I had no points
No points
Tough round
Tough round
But that's okay
Because at year one
I was pretty
Fucking great
But
It's okay
No points
Sorry
You guys were greater Of course It's okay No point sorry You guys are greater
Of course
It's not about me
We've been
On this journey
To the top
Pass it to Marci
Marci you got something to say
No no no
Listen to meci. Marci, you got something to say? No, no, no, no. Listen to me.
We've been waiting for six long years for this guy to be MVP.
Great intro.
Yeah.
Yes.
You took the road around a little bit. I did. All right. Marci's son. Great intro. Yeah. Yes. He took the road around a little bit.
He did.
All right.
Thank you.
He did it.
He got it.
He did it.
It was a long intro.
We didn't know where he was going.
A couple different times.
Yep.
There's a good couple pops out of the crowd.
What was the reaction from old Wild Bill, the entire operation?
Like maybe the next day, Wild Bill go, oh, geez.
Or that's just standard wild bill operation there.
Well, the thing was, I, they said, who wants to talk? Who wants to talk?
Stoner, you got to talk. Okay.
Maybe we should get somebody from the original team. And, uh,
all the guys like, nah, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it.
And just randomly, he's like, well, I'll talk.
do it and just randomly he's like well i'll talk grabs the microphone and god i don't know where he was going with it but it was unbelievable
nobody else wanted it was legendary he had his uh he had his cup party i think in sweden uh and
on saturday and him and his mom were dancing around the cup to abba the dancing queen so he's
uh he's still having a good time.
I think he took a little bit of time off after that one.
Had to look in the mirror a couple of times, you know,
like that's going to happen.
That's going to take place whenever you're celebrating Lord.
Oh, you got to do what you got to do.
How have the parties been with a Stanley cup?
Has it made its way back to you? Where is it now? And do you get like,
is it like
a group text picture videos from everybody's celebration or how does it work yeah so it
started i think uh july 8th um in quebec nick waugh had it and then just starts making its rounds um
those keepers of the cup they they get to see some uh some good stuff i think along the way
oh yeah mike yeah i had mine on july 25th in winnipeg um you know did got to see my child
old childhood rink hasn't changed at all i went to my high school um then just went to my country
club there had a members got to see it and then then we just had a huge party there with about 80 people.
Not massive, just friends and family.
And we tested out its durability to see how much alcohol can be drank out of it.
Oh, okay.
You guys are boozing.
Yeah.
80 people boozing on that thing.
Are we doing mixed drinks in there?
Are we chugging beers?
What was the go-to?
I think you can get 16 cans of beer in there. So weugging beers what was the go-to um i think you get 16 uh 16 cans of
beer in there so we tested that tested the limits on that one um and then did some champagne uh for
some other people and then we had some non-alcoholics in there for the for the young folk oh okay oh i
thought you were gonna say you put weed in there for the moment but the uh i get i understand yeah
for the young kids of course yeah for the apple Apple juice. Yeah, absolutely. For sure.
16 cans.
Anybody doing that and ruining the rest of their nights?
Or is that just something that's kind of split amongst the boys?
That's a split.
We usually see how long you can last,
but it's not very stable when you're trying to pour out of it.
You've got to have a good steady hand for the guy who's pouring it.
You can get a little messy there if you've got somebody who's had a few too many.
AJ actually worked out for 37 years.
Yeah.
So that when Mr. Jack Johnson won a Stanley Cup, he could pour that.
Is this still your profile picture?
I believe so, yeah.
He felt.
Hey, you should have seen him, Stoner.
He was full flex.
Yep.
Bang.
Pow. Oh, yeah. Dumping. hey, you should have seen him, Stoner. He was full flex. Yep. Bang. Pow.
Oh, yeah.
Dumping.
I mean, it is beautiful.
How many photos?
Are you allowing people to take photos when things are going down with the Stanley Cup
or what's the normal rules?
Oh, yeah.
We had a photographer kind of following the night the whole time and then people were
taking pictures, videos.
I mean, it's a cool picture to get drinking drinking out of that Stanley Cup. Look at AJ.
Look how sturdy that hand is right there.
Perfect.
God, I wish I would have known this before I would have phoned you in for this.
Oh my God, AJ, you've been hired
as the Lord O'Holder guy?
I'll take it. I will take it. That'd be a great gig.
It would be a great gig. All right, we appreciate you.
My buddies had it wobbling like this.
Probably got those broken wrists.
They ain't stone or tough.
We'll be donating $250,000
in your guys' name to the Cure
for the Kids Foundation, right?
Is the name? Correct, yeah.
Hell yeah. You go back to back. I'm super excited.
Hell yeah. You go back to back. We'll go
$500,000 next year, pal.
Alright, billboard material there.
We're going to put it on the wall.
All right, let's go do it.
You're the man, ladies and gentlemen.
Stanley Cup champion, Captain Mark Stone.
Yeah!
I love that.
That was a good visual of what his friends look like.
Yeah, it was perfect.
Yeah.
You know, back when he used to do keg stands,
he used to be like, who's grabbing my legs?
And then somebody would say, I got him,
and you look a little...
I got an ass on me.
I don't need you dumping me over the top of this thing,
embarrassing myself.
You have to do the same thing with Lordo.
I had Ruppert dumping that thing.
That's right.
That's perfect.
Ruppert's pretty jocked.
Ruppert's pretty jocked.
He's had it before.
AJ, is that the coolest you've ever looked with full flex?
You see that?
Oh, yeah.
Full flex.
I was just holding something.
Come on, Hawk.? Oh, yeah. Full flex. I was just holding something.
Come on, Hawk.
It's crazy that you were trying to dump it sideways and you're like,
can we just do it this way?
You know what I mean? Can we just
dump it this way?
No, you got to do it.
You're like, all right, I guess.
I made my wife
take 700 pictures and I scrolled scroll three nope nope don't look good
laura angles angles james laura lighting come on laura angles uh all right what have we not
talked about that we need to talk about today michael laura boom man what's going on with the
michael i guess we'll find out when the book is officially released. If the book is officially released.
I know he's on a book tour right now.
I don't know if it was an excerpt that said, hey, that whole thing's a sham.
Or if it was actually people reading the book and getting that story.
Nonetheless, think this thing's going to grow.
It's going to fester.
Obviously, Sandra Bullock is being attacked pretty heavily because how damn lovable she was as that mom.
Perfect.
As that mom.
Best actress.
Boo-joo.
For the entire year, a lot of movies made, Sandra Bullock wins best actress for portraying this southern mom who just wanted to take care of Michael Lohr and give him a bed for the first time in his fucking life.
That's right.
If it's not. We fell in love. We did. Holy shit.
What a feel-good story.
Damn.
I don't think
it was real. That's what Michael Orr
was saying. Wait, they made a movie
about something that wasn't real and people were attacking
Sandy for that? Well, she's
getting attacked because I think how good she was
in it is what made the movie what it was.
We thought that's how the people actually were.
That's why I'm devastated. Me too. I'm not mad
at Sandy, though. I'm like, Sandy feels like
she's probably betrayed in this entire thing.
She probably met this sweet lady that
she portrayed and was like, aren't you the sweetest
soul?
That's how I was being portrayed, right?
These were the sweetest people.
When she talked to the original gal,
she just instantly had a southern accent
because she knew she was going to be speaking with that in the movie.
Speak to me.
Call me Sandy, please.
Hi, Sandy.
It's an honor to meet you.
Can't wait to see my story about Big Mike.
And Sandy's like, hi, Sandy.
Say Big Mike.
Big Mike.
Big Mike.
Big Mike.
Tim McGraw owned three of the nicest Taco Bells that state has ever seen.
That's why I forgot. There's people now saying. Oh, really? You know, they have money. Obviously, that was a three of the nicest Taco Bells that state has ever seen. That's why I forgot.
There's people now saying.
Oh, really?
You know, they had money.
Obviously, that was a part of the story is they had money.
I've never watched the movie.
I don't know why.
I just never really motivated.
Big Mock?
I don't really like serious football movies.
I like Varsity Blues, The Program, stuff like that.
I appreciate the fact that in hindsight, you're right.
You didn't support something that had.
Yeah.
And now I guess it was the right thing to do.
I'm on the right side of history.
Way to go, AJ.
What a hero.
Thank you.
Yeah, I mean, I guess.
No, I'm going to watch it now, actually.
Yeah.
I need to see.
I need to see what happened.
Parsi, Blue is in the program.
Feels like you only like football movies with boobs.
And here we are, and he's going to say he's going to watch The Blind Side.
I doubt it, Hawk.
There's no boobs in the program.
You're right.
I'm probably going to watch The Blind Side. There the blind side. I doubt it, Hawk. There's no boobs in the program. You're right. I'm probably going to wash the blind side.
There's boobs in the program?
No, there's not.
There's fake dongs.
There's no boobs in the program.
Yes, there are.
I just watched the program on Saturday night.
There are no boobs in it.
I mean, Latimer might count.
Latimer's got enough juice.
His pecs count, I guess.
Bingo.
Yeah, he did have a good bod.
Anyways, whenever we talk about that story now i don't
know what we're supposed to say it's a fraud so somebody's gonna have to read the book yeah but
how how how has it gotten this far good question yeah why didn't this happen when the movie came
out the fraud is on both sides that's what well michael war like at some point he decided he just
didn't want to ruffle any feathers you think that's why he didn't say anything is that what
it is well it wasn't the whole entire thing. He didn't like the portrayal
of himself, so he didn't even watch the movie.
Yeah, I knew that early on. He said that. He didn't like
being how he was portrayed. I know that. So he just
said, I'm just going to block my life out
from this, even though as soon as I introduce
myself anywhere, all anybody's
going to think is, boom.
The amount of times, oh, blindside. Oh,
love the blindside. Has happened to Michael
Orr throughout his life. And he's in the NFL a long time, so he's in a lot of times. He won aside. Oh, love the blindside. Has happened to Michael Orr throughout his life.
And he's in the NFL a long time, so he's in a lot of times.
He won a Super Bowl with them, didn't he, with Baltimore, I believe.
Yeah, in 2012, right?
When he was on the team?
When they played the Niners.
Yeah.
That's crazy to think about.
It's coming out now, obviously.
I would like to hear the entire story because the other side is saying,
this ain't real.
Yeah.
He probably didn't know. He's probably learned, like, as the years have have gone he's learned a little bit more and more about what was going on probably well i think he probably learned that he wasn't
getting none of the paper that's where it all started that's what yeah they were got like 2.5
percent or something yeah nick said that he alleged that apparently everyone in the family
the two kids and the parents both got 2.5 percent of the gross i think
and like 250 000 dollars it was 500 million which is gross yeah it made 500 million dollars and he
and he didn't get a penny from it so he's just he's just finding this out i assume he was told
put into an account where he was not monitoring it or whatever because he signed his rights away
no certainly
but i'm saying how did he not know that he didn't get any of that money right until how many years
are we later yeah he was probably just told like hey this money is in this account for you just
like it is for all of us and he probably just learned what everybody else got paid versus what
he got paid yeah and then that's when he was like wait a fucking minute and then he got lawyers
looking to and they're like well actually they didn't technically adopt you either.
You're kind of just put under their conservatorship,
which is what happened to Britney Spears.
Right.
And because that is part of what they said.
Like, yeah, that family was wealthy beforehand,
but they said that they took, like, from the gross that they got from the movie,
they bought, like, 171 more fast food franchises
and, like, started traveling, traveling like exclusively on private jets and
stuff like that like kind of almost shoving it in his face a little bit and i guess he was playing
in the league so they probably figured like oh he's good it doesn't matter but the dad uh spoke
out yeah it alleges actually no do we alleges that they were not offered any money and they
got no money from the movie oh yeah because
the way i think i understood it at the time was his story was sold for a book it was yeah then
the book person sold the story to him for a movie correct i thought that's why michael orr got
bamboozled like hey somebody agreed to sell my story to a book and then the book company are the
people that got the movie i I think that's how I...
I can see how something like that
could definitely happen. Yeah.
This, though, is kind of different, right? This is saying,
nah, that ain't the case. These people had it.
I don't know. We are on
Michael Orr's side. Sure, that's right.
And that's not the blind side, no.
That's right.
Are only the parents the fault?
Could he go after the studio and whoever was doing that to try to...
And the kid?
You know, keep him in the dark and not know, I guess, how much he should be getting?
I don't know.
Yeah.
What did that little kid say?
He said something about, like, they're insulted.
He's insulted or upset about the allegations.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean...
They have responded.
The family has responded.
He might be upset because the kid who portrayed him in the movie
is one of the worst and most unlikable movie characters of all time,
so he might have a bone to pick with that guy.
But I don't know why he's got a bone to pick with the real Michael Orr.
The movie did $500 million.
They obviously loved him.
It was a terrible year for movies.
I mean, you should see the other actresses that were nominated for Best Actress.
What else was up?
Black Swan, Julie and Julie, and just a whole bunch of other shit that you've never seen.
Well, that's good timing.
I heard of Julie and Julie.
Avatar was nominated for Best Picture that year as well.
And it won?
No, it did not.
What won?
Hurt Locker.
Good movie. James Cameron's? No, it did not. Well, it won. Hurt Locker. Good movie.
James Cameron's ex-wife.
Bingo.
How pissed was he?
Think how pissed he was. That's like his life's work
avatar. Hurt Locker, though.
Sorry. She's a
great director. Yeah.
Catherine Bigelow. It's hard to
watch that movie, you know?
Because just... Bob, come on.
That's all you keep saying.
Yeah.
Chasing the dragon.
You did it.
You did it.
Holy shit.
You did it.
That's all you keep saying.
You did it.
You did good.
You did really good.
And then just can't.
No way.
No.
Let me put this fucking thing back on.
Absolutely.
They need me.
What a dog.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Addicted to it.
Like that.
That's the craziest part of that movie
Finished Hijack
Good
Yep
Oh yeah
I believe
I don't think
I think I watched the last episode
With Idris Elba
Yep
Yes
I loved it
I thought it was great
Yes
When did you watch the last one
Like last night
I watched the last one
Literally last night
Are we watching this at the same time
Maybe three days ago
I finished
I've been kind of matriculating
My way through it
It surprised me.
I'm like, oh, what's this?
I like Idris Elba, and then it hooked me early.
Me too.
I liked it as well.
Can't have another season.
No.
Just one time, seven episodes.
Here we go.
That's fine.
I don't know.
That character of old Idris just being like the greatest negotiator of all time.
It is sweet.
Not a bad character you could probably take.
To different situations.
But they would have to change the name.
Yeah. Yeah, let's see they would have to change the name. Yeah.
Yeah, let's see.
That's a one season done.
Put on a cruise ship.
Yeah.
Someone hijacks a cruise ship and he figures it out.
Speed to cruise control.
Absolutely.
A train.
All of us watching are going to be like, of course, this cruise gets hijacked with him here.
This guy's luck.
You know what I mean?
Do it.
He was incredible. I don't think I've watched what I mean? Do it. He was incredible.
I don't think I've watched much of Idris' shit.
He's awesome, man.
He's done kickboxing matches.
He's a DJ.
That dude is super talented.
Yeah.
I'm a big fan.
He has friends with The Rock.
Boys with The Rock.
Yeah.
He did a movie with him.
They were talking about him being Bond.
Is he British?
He is British.
I heard a lot of accents in that.
Are they on strike over there too?
No.
Oh, so we're about to get all British stuff.
BBC makes great stuff.
And I'm not talking about...
Yeah.
What?
What? You tell me. What? What?
You tell me.
Let's leave it out.
What do you got, no jumper, dude?
Yeah, what's going on?
I don't have a jumper, no.
BBC.
British Broadcasting Company.
Oh, what's the other one?
I don't know what you mean you're not talking about.
What are you talking about?
I was talking about the British Broadcasting Company.
Yeah, but you said not the other BBC.
Yeah, you got like real.
That came out.
You started acting real funny.
Yeah.
Whenever you said real funny, whenever you said that.
Yeah.
I don't think that came out.
Yeah, it did.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
We don't know.
Spit it out.
Let's go.
Let's talk about something else.
That no jumper was good.
I don't know if that got enough.
Yeah, it was. It's pretty deep. Pretty deep. Deep cut. Good internet good. I don't know if that got enough. Yeah, it was.
It's pretty deep.
Pretty deep.
Deep cut.
Good internetting.
I'm just kind of doing my thing.
Keep it moving.
But we know, Tone, we're adults.
Yep.
Yeah, you don't have to further explain what you meant when we're talking about the British
broadcasting, which I don't fully understand.
Do they produce everything out of England?
I think a lot of their big shows, yeah, or at least are on BBC.
It's like PBS.
Oh, it's big.
Yeah, it's like PBS, but it's also like the equivalent of HBO.
But our PBS kind of crop, right now?
Yes.
Very small.
Kind of crop.
Thought it was done.
Very much.
The BBC, though, very big.
Yes.
Humongous.
Still.
And sometimes still crop on the BBC at times.
Well, I think there's a lot of crop everywhere.
Got to get out.
Let's talk.
This is happening on a very frequent basis, it feels like.
Much more rapidly than I could have predicted if I was to say,
hey, we're going to do sports coverage every single day.
Another NFL running back, ex-NFL player,
has passed away at a very, very, very young age.
Alex Collins, who was an electrifying running back,
who obviously we remember his dreads,
but we remember him flying around, not only for the Seahawks,
I think the Vikings and a couple other teams as well.
He died Sunday night, I believe, 10.20 p.m.
They're saying he was in a left lane, somebody was in a right lane,
or somebody was driving towards him, makes a turn.
He ends up hitting the back right passenger side door of this car on his motorcycle,
ends up going through the window of the car,
and then passing away in the backseat, pretty much,
is what ended up happening.
Just another reminder about putting life in perspective.
Like, hey, anything can fucking happen.
This guy was beloved by everybody, seemingly, on the internet.
Obviously, we didn't talk about him nearly enough
in the grand stage of football and everything like that
because of his career.
But incredibly sad.
We lost another NFL guy.
Another reminder that shit's real out here.
Let's be safe.
We can't have more people passing away
way too early like Alex Collins just did
on Sunday. The NFL world
has been doing this type of thing way too much, it seems like,
as of late.
And we need it to stop.
Actually need it to stop. So rest in peace to Alex Collins.
To everybody out in Hawaii battling through the Maui fire aftermath,
nothing but positive T's and P's.
I believe there's numerous ways to help out over there.
I think as that kind of gets sorted, we will obviously lend a hand there
because of how much appreciation we have for the entire state of Hawaii and then also back in Plum where a house exploded my hometown our hometown uh where five
people have been pronounced dead numerous other damages have taken place it's like there's a lot
of shit happening around the world right now in our world that kind of puts things in perspective
let's remember how lucky we are to be alive let's appreciate and enjoy it as much as we possibly can.
And also remember, like, there's real shit out there that can happen.
So maybe put the petty stuff aside, you know, the dumb stuff.
Let's go ahead and just remember that it's not really important,
especially when something massive happens and it kind of gets thrust in our face.
So let's enjoy this life.
Let's try to and let's keep moving forward, shall we all.
Thank you all so much for rocking with us
today. We can't thank you enough.
Big shout out. Big shout to D'Amico
Ryans and Stoner for joining
us on this beautiful Tuesday. Tonight
Hard Knocks. Can't wait to see how that is
portrayed. AJ, anything else we
should be watching?
I don't know. Do they have that
One Jets Drive thing going on for the Jets?
They were following Aaron.
Has that been Aaron as well?
I don't know.
Is that on their social?
I'm not sure.
Like Jets YouTube or something?
Yeah.
I saw a preview for it before Hard Knocks.
They did an interview with him when he was out in Tahoe, I believe.
I thought they were doing their own little version of Hard Knocks,
but I haven't checked their website or their Twitter.
I saw the clip.
He looks real cool.
He was with Miles Teller.
Is that what you're talking about?
I don't know if he was with Miles, but they
interviewed him sitting down, I think,
on Wednesday in Tahoe after his practice
round or whatever. Yeah, and then I think he was golfing
with Miles that day. They were
interviewing him during that day
in that video that I seen.
I thought that was going to be multiple videos.
Like, hey, we're going to continue to follow the team like this.
Yeah, I wonder what the agreement is between the New York Jets social
and digital with Hard Knocks.
Because I think that one Jets drive is, I think it's done very well.
I think they invest like a lot of money.
And they got a lot of access.
Yeah, smart.
Lions did one last year as well
they should promote hard knocks uh one lion's drive yeah it's called uh inside the den
they do a really good job one jet drive episode two is out right now or whatever okay
let's make this aj come on it's going in
oh man we don't want that one it's hard to read it's hard to well you're sitting down too that's Jay? Come on. It's going in. Oh, man.
We don't want that one.
It's hard to read.
It's hard to get.
Well, you're sitting down, too.
That's kind of hard sitting down.
It's tough, yeah.
I'm trying to think of things that we can do, you know, this fall that'll spice up the
whole giveaway thing.
Get some of those, like, exploding targets.
You could throw the ball and boom, they blow up when you hit them.
Yeah, or...
I'm trying to blow up the building.
Tannerite.
Tannerite.
Tannerite.
Tannerite.
Tannerite.
Tannerite.
Tannerite.
Tannerite.
Could also get one of those nets they put in the corner
like that they used
for the Jets
at the end of the last episode
and just put them on the wall.
Oh, flick of the wrist.
Oh!
Oh, there he is.
Told you.
Good hit.
Told you.
That was a good hit.
Happy birthday, Trent.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
I thought there was a chance
that, uh,
I thought there was a chance
I was never going to make that.
So that was going to take us to three. Here we are. After one miss, I was never going to make that. So that was going to take us to three.
Here we are.
After one miss.
The universe just told.
No, yesterday I had a couple of these too.
That was because.
Because what?
What is this code he is speaking?
I don't know.
He's had quite a day.
Tom can't even talk anymore.
Are you scared?
Why?
Would he apologize today?
Would he be any remorse today?
Yeah, did you apologize at all?
You haven't.
What are we talking about?
That's what I thought.
Of course.
That 70s party looked real cool.
Yeah, you didn't invite any of the boys.
Yeah, thanks for the invite, you fucking prick.
Okay.
Every single... I wish I had a recorder when I verbally invited everybody
and the hatred that came to me for even inviting certain people.
What?
That's not true.
What?
I'm not coming.
There's no chance.
Yeah, right.
I'm never going.
That does sound like Connor.
Oh.
I would never say that.
I would actually go.
I have nothing to do ever.
Why wouldn't I be the one going?
You were at Phil's golf event.
Yeah, Phil – we didn't know that. We found out about that on Tuesday? We're at Phil's golf event. We didn't know that.
We found out about that on Tuesday.
Yeah, we didn't know.
Come on.
What are you even talking about?
You guys are always welcome.
I'd love to have you.
Okay, so what's next year?
Many people asked about you, everybody, too.
What time?
What's the bit next year?
What's the gimmick?
Well, actually, it might be changed to a different time of year next year.
We're trying to figure that out.
Perfect.
Oh, so it's not as hot?
Possibly, yeah.
Well, and just different things.
It was our 12th year, so we're always trying to switch things up and change it.
Evolve.
Make it better.
Make it bigger.
Make more lives better with this fundraiser, this cult thing we got going on.
Thank you, my ad.
Weekend after the draft.
Yeah, is it going to be cold?
Is that what you're thinking?
Because that's tough football season.
We're not going to be able to.
No, I don't know. End of April. We'll see. We're always brainstorming. What's next year going to be cold? Is that what you're thinking? Because that's tough football season. We're not going to be able to. No, I don't know.
We'll see.
We're always brainstorming.
What's next year going to be, though?
This year was 70s.
I don't know.
Honestly, we're always trying to come up with new themes.
I would have loved the 70s.
Somebody said alien theme possibly at some point.
I was like, I don't know.
Maybe.
Yeah, I guess that would be good.
What do you think Bobby Carpenter is dressing up as?
He's just coming fully nude.
I'm the human.
I just got probed.
I'm the alien from planet Earth.
I just got probed.
How about him put this on a podcast, Ryan?
Oh my gosh, yeah.
God, he's the best.
He's the best, dude.
What's up on podcasts?
Hooked on a feeling, playing in the back.
Did you guys do your body fat percentage measurements right before this party or after?
No, we did not.
But Bob was coming.
He came straight from the Bahamas on a four-day birthday week he had come from.
He came back a little bit early for the event, so I really appreciate Bob coming.
He came, and Bobby is a great hype man for any event you were ever at.
Yeah, Bob,
you know, it feels like he only has one speed and I think that's why I appreciate
being around him because it's like,
hey, this guy's going to bring energy.
Yeah, I know what you're getting from Carpenter.
I'm not with him every single day. I wish
I was. I don't know how I would survive
with the amount of energy being, you
know, dumped into my life from General
Bob. Every time I'm around him, I love him.
I fucking love him.
It's a weapon.
Weapon.
This year he's doing top five all year.
I can't wait for that.
I cannot wait for that, AJ.
Top five, whatever he thinks is top five of just college football or what?
Yes.
Bobby Carpenter's brain, the General's top five.
What's he going to do with Ohio State?
That's the first question I have.
He has a local radio show that is Buckeye driven.
Yeah.
6 to 10 a.m., right?
That's four hours of talking Ohio State, right?
Yeah, maybe 6 to 9 now, but yeah, five days a week, yeah, every morning.
Unreal.
He's been doing that like 10 years now.
For real.
Those morning show people
Good on ya
Good on ya
Hey what time do you wake up? 3.45 is the first alarm
For what?
My show's at 6am? Oh my god
Whoa
Oh my god so you gotta go to bed at what time?
Yeah about 9, 8 o'clock
Oh no he's not doing that
He will not shut a good time down because he has a show
where he'll work out in the morning.
He will ride that right into it.
He takes absolute pride in being that person still at age 40 to be able to do that.
Well, hey, he's different.
Hats off to him.
But, yeah, I believe this is what he would show up as if he was showing up to the alien party.
He would just be the human alien.
Hey, this is me. Hey, I'm representing the planet of earth check it out remember when this is what we sent out into
the sky yeah and we're like can we not make the dong way bigger a little bit and then also upper
body like bbc way more jaw a little strapped let's go let's get this let's let these people
know that if you come down here, you got problems potential.
Right. Bingo.
Instead, it seems like they're all this big.
How do they? I think we'll be able to just wash them.
There's got to be some big ones out there, right?
There's got to be some big aliens out there.
The one in Vegas allegedly was freaking huge.
Oh, the one that was hiding behind the forklift or whatever?
No, not that. That wasn't real.
Hold on. Hold on.
Did they say that was a fraud?
Somebody gave me an answer.
I forget who I was talking to.
Maybe my brother.
Yeah, I was talking to my brother.
He had one of the greatest answers I've heard in a long time.
Okay.
I said, Jay, what do you think about all this fucking alien shit that's happening?
He goes, so they get all the way here, and then they just crash in the middle of the desert.
That's what we're
thinking they're able to get what millions of miles is what they say and then all of a sudden
oh planet earth too scary oh we crash into planet earth there's like billions of things that they
could have hit on their way here through space trash and junk and who knows what else but then
they get close to planet Earth and we're
down. He was like, you think
that's what happens for real? I'm like,
Jay, maybe.
They don't know gravity.
They don't know how to deal
with cell phone types. That's a great rational question
by Jay. I laughed
very hard when he asked the question.
I'm like, I never thought of it
that way. You're right.
Maybe we shot him down.
Hell yeah.
Well, in Vegas, too, there's a lot to, you know,
someone might have drawn their eye while they're flying.
They're not paying attention.
That doesn't make sense.
Especially the sphere.
I know what you're talking about, but the sphere.
Well, what do you think he was talking about?
You know what he was talking about.
No, a ton.
Yeah.
Tell ahead.
Fucking what?
8,008.
What?
Calculator trick.
Of course.
This guy's batting 1,000.
Batting 1,000.
I know him. You know him too.
Bang!
Oh!
Robbed.
Around the world.
That's what they were looking at in Vegas.
That is.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
For the alien in Vegas.
Nice.
Oh, the back rim.
AJ, are you sorry for not inviting the Du Bois to your little hippie 70s party?
I'm sorry that they were not there, yes.
I like the way you apologize.
I don't. They would have brought a lot of juice Believe me
That one's got to be made earlier
She made the football toss
Oh yeah it's two makes today
Holy fuck I'm doing it
What a show
It's amazing how quickly you change
They let you know that
I'm not willing to change my I'm not willing to change my –
I'm not scared to change my opinion on things with new pieces of evidence.
I completely forgot that that football went in that hole just a couple minutes ago.
And once I was reminded of that, we did it today.
Stoner, we gave $250,000 to Cure for the Kids Foundation over there in Vegas.
Hospital, hopefully making lives better.
Shout-out to the Vegas Golden Knights. They go back
to back. We'll get $500,000 next year.
You made the head coach of the Texans late
helping the Colts in the
second hour or two. Yeah, we did that as a team.
I don't necessarily want all the credit or the blame
for that particular one, but hey, it was a good conversation
with him. Well, I figured the
Patriots part was destroying C.J. Stroud.
What else did we talk about? We talked about Dalvin Cook
going to the Jets. What a wild time.
And then we also, you weren't here for this, AJ?
Connor, we started a show.
Hey, happy Zeke's in New England.
He goes, yeah, I thought we were getting Dalvin, but Zeke's Zeke, I guess.
That's what he said, AJ.
I saw something.
I didn't see that for a bit.
I think, Connor, I think you're going to be surprised.
I think you're going to really like Zeke.
I think Zeke is going to be in shape and have a little chip on his shoulder.
Yeah, no doubt about it.
I think he's going to be great for New England,
but we can't act like Zeke and Dalvin Cook are the same player.
No.
We just can't.
Yeah, one of them's on the Jets, and one of them's on your team.
And one of them has rushed for 1,100 yards,
I think 1,500 scrimmage yards every year for the last three years,
and one of them hasn't.
And one of them's a Patriot.
And one of them's a Jet.
All right, well, congrats to you both.
Thank you.
I'm happy for us both.
It wasn't really breaking news,
but Tone Rich is officially the starter for the Indianapolis Colts.
Yep.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
I thought, dude, I didn't hear what you said there.
I thought the starter, I thought you were saying the Indianapolis 500,
tone rich.
I thought that was a country musician.
Yeah, I did for a second.
I did not.
Big and rich.
Geez Louise, I apologize for not exactly picking up what you put down right there.
We've got to get that better by the time we get into the big leagues or whatever.
Yeah, what was going through your head when you said, yeah? We got to get that better by the time we get into the big leagues or whatever. Yeah.
What was going through your head when you said, yeah?
Well, because I was just excited to see where we were going.
I was pumped to hear where we were headed with that one.
Because I just assume the brain will catch up.
So I'm going to give an answer.
It's just like in Jeopardy.
Like if there's a subject that I think I know, I'm hitting that thing
and then letting my brain figure it out
after the thing's already picked.
You know what I mean?
For Wheel of Fortune, I am leading with the answer to that thing long before.
I let the brain just catch.
I have faith that it'll catch up.
That one, though, tone rich.
Who?
Whoa.
I couldn't piece it together.
Tone rich.
Anthony Richardson.
Is who you're talking about?
Yeah.
You're talking about the rapper?
The man that I saw come out of a gas station?
More specifically, a marathon gas station in college?
And put it down while sitting on top of a car with the boys out there?
Drinking some incredibly refreshing-looking juice?
This is the guy.
Clean.
Clean.
I think he's on a Mustang, Chevy.
Is that Sings?
I don't know.
That's the guy.
Shout out.
He put him on a rap game.
I think he just said he's got ice in his veins.
Fucking kill you.
See ya.
That's a bro code.
I'm done.
You're done.
We're done.
Yeah.
And then here, I think he says something about not eating peas.
And he's a saint on the field.
Shout out, Drew Brees. That's an actual bar in there. Bars. Love he's a saint on the field. Shout out Drew Brees.
That's actual bar in there.
Love this guy.
That is Sings.
Yeah, that's Sings gas station.
Down here in Indy?
Yeah, that's the same one.
Oh, I remember that guy.
You guys used to talk about him a lot.
Mr. Singh?
Mr. Singh helped us out a lot.
I don't know if that's Mr. Singh's,
but I do know that that guy's our starting quarterback.
We knew that guy was going to be our starting quarterback
when Jim Hersey said,
he's going to play.
That's literally all he said.
But I'm excited for the potential of what this guy could be.
You know, AJ?
How could you not be?
I mean, just physically, obviously, what he can do.
But he made some nice throws there that give you plenty of hope, I think.
Yeah, in the pick.
All right.
Hey, Bob.
I cannot imagine how bad you're swimming as a quarterback in your first preseason game.
I know any position how tough it is early on, but as a quarterback, that's got to be brutal.
And just to add on here, the amount of arm talent he has is going to get him into some shit.
For sure.
You know what I mean?
He's going to have to learn what's reality and what's not.
Because the pick that he throws, like, in his head,
oh, I can fucking –
You'll thread this.
I can throw that.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think he thinks that just a flick of the wrist,
actually I can put the ball all over the place, which he can,
which is very good news for whenever he gets fully developed
and understands everything he wants to do.
But I think it's also going to affect him a little bit
when he thinks he can do something that he can't
because of how incredibly athletically gifted he is,
both with his legs and his arm.
But he ran a guy over.
He completed some balls.
He looked like a professional.
Yes, he threw a pick.
Shit happens, but nothing happened in that game
that made me think anything differently.
This dude's a guy.
This is a guy.
I like that receiver should have ran curl on that on that
top of that route which one in this play uh the pick route when he threw the pick oh okay you
think it was supposed to be a little bit of uh rubby it should have been a comeback dano did
say that yesterday it says full team breakdown that wasn't just he backing up that's the goddamn
receipt six you're saying yeah look you don't run a comeback fade what the fuck is he doing
yeah i think that's six yeah up top yeah you're saying? Yeah, look, you don't run a comeback fading. What the fuck is he doing? Yeah, I think that's Pierce.
Yeah.
Up top, yeah.
You're talking about the guy on the outside?
Yeah, at the top.
Yeah, Pierce.
Pierce right there.
He looked like he was stalk blocking or something, didn't he?
Did he think it was a screen or something?
Ball was supposed to go quick, probably.
Bam.
Yeah.
He's not running a route.
He was going to block.
He can't block.
I know.
He should be running curl.
Look how he's running out, though.
If you see it early on, I mean, it doesn't really matter. Look at him. He looks like he's stalking. Look how he's running out, though. If you see it early on, it doesn't really matter.
He's stalking almost all of them.
He's going, oh, fuck.
Sam McKenzie, he'll be complete.
First drive.
That's pretty good to me.
You can nitpick it, but he played pretty good.
He ran a guy over, too, which I liked.
I'm a big fan.
I like that he has a rap song out.
People are going to say, is the song good? I'm like big fan. I like that he has a rap song out. People are going to say
is the song good?
I'm like, yeah. The song is good.
Also, the fact that he went in there and recorded it
and shot a music video, I like everything
about that. I like that his mentality
is like, yep, I'm going to go record this
and follow up. We are shooting a fucking music
video to this. I just like the cut of this
guy's gym. You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah. How could you not? I love him. I'm thankful for him. Let's I just like the cut of this guy's gym. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
How could you not?
I love him.
I'm thankful for him.
Let's win the Super Bowl, A.R.
Let's go.
I can't wait to hear.
I don't want to tackle him.
I don't want to be one-on-one with that dude in the open field.
Nobody does.
That's why we're winning the Super Bowl and you guys aren't.
We'll see.
We'll be back on the other side to see if I still believe that.
I don't know if you heard the bet yesterday with Kirk Herbstreit.
We're still trying to piece it together.
Still trying to piece the bet together.
But he's saying over-under for
Ohio State Buckeyes, 11.
And then for the
West Virginia Mountaineers, 6.
We have to get to a bowl game. 5.5 is the
over-under. His is 11 for
Ohio State, so that would be a playoff win, I think,
is what he would have to do.
West Virginia's going to the college football playoffs. I think
it's a good bet for me in this particular
thing. Have you changed your thoughts
on West Virginia at all since you've been gone?
I mean,
maybe a little bit. I didn't really give them much thought
of making the college football playoffs, but maybe
if they start out hot, they might be able to do it.
They're beating Penn State in Happy Valley Week 1.
Book it.
There's a trap game coming, though. If they can buy that trap game, they'll be all right.
Duquesne?
That's right.
Yeah, Duquesne.
I'm a little scared of Duquesne.
Every game's a trap game when you can lose every one.
That's kind of the thing with West Virginia this year.
Not going to happen.
Have you been there?
Yeah.
How do you feel about it?
Have you seen it?
Have you felt it?
I feel that we're going to win over six games.
Hell yeah.
Okay.
There we go.
I think it might be a good week, too, I think.
I was reading up on the Dukes,
and they were picked to finish second in their conference,
and any time that's just not a good sign.
So you guys think, all right, Duquesne sucks.
Second's not bad.
What do you mean?
They're normally picked to win it.
So it's down here for the Duquesne Dukes by week two.
What conference is that?
The NEC, the Northeast.
That's right.
Just like the SEC.
That's right.
You Ohio State people really live in your high horse.
Did you know?
Did you know the conference?
Yes.
I played on that field.
I bled on that field.
What?
I sweat on that field.
What?
Not for the Dukes.
Just as a youth in Pittsburgh to play soccer.
For yourself.
You know what I mean?
I knew all about it.
I knew all about it.
For Herbie, you're allowed to Ohio State.
They play 12 regular seasons.
They're allowed to lose one regular season.
Well, then that would be a push.
That wouldn't be a win.
Does bowl game, that doesn't count?
Is 12 and 1?
No, yeah. They could win a bowl game.
They would have to win a playoff.
Oh, so not a bowl game.
Only playoff counts.
Well, that is there, right?
Well, they would still go to like a Sugar Bowl or a game that's not a college football playoff.
If they're 11-1, though, they're probably making the playoff.
I'd assume.
Yeah.
When's it get next year?
They take eight.
Is that right?
Yeah, 2024.
Not this year.
If it's Bama, Georgia, and, you know, one of them loses the SEC championship.
Swag.
All right.
Let's get out of here.
It's a good day.
You want that bet?
11?
Yeah, I'll take the over.
All right.
Sick.
All right.
So we got to get to a bowl game.
Let's go.
Oh, yeah. Let's go. Hey, Neil, come on. I think I would take the over. All right, sick. All right, so we got to get to a bowl game. Let's go. Hell yeah.
Let's go.
Hey, Neil, come on.
I think I would take the over in West Virginia.
What is it, five or five and a half?
Five and a half.
Don't be a mark.
I'll let you know.
I'll think about it.
You just threw yourself out there.
I said you'd take it, and then now you're...
No, no, I'd like to at least...
I got to do some homework.
I got to do some research.
I don't want to just throw my opinion.
I'd like to at least have some evidence to back up my opinion.
I appreciate that. Garrett Green's
quarterback. That's all you need to know. The guy is a dog.
He can move. He can throw.
He's got good moxie. He's ready
for the moment. He wants to sing Country Roads
up there in Happy Valley.
Could you imagine West Virginia goes into Penn State
and wins that weekend after all the shit
we've been talking about?
I'm damn near willing to bet my life that doesn't happen.
Honestly, you never know. Damn near willing to bet my life that doesn't happen. Yeah.
Honestly, you never know.
Damn near willing.
The expectations are very high at Happy Valley this year.
Let's get to a break.
We saw that big son of a bitch they had behind Sean Clifford.
That kid is 6'8".
That don't matter, bro.
We're chopping wood.
Okay.
We're chopping.
Number one out of high school.
That's cute. Really? Where's he from? Drew Law. I don't know where of high school. Number one out of high school. That's cute.
Really? Where's he from?
I don't know where he's from.
Ohio, I think.
He's an Ohio guy.
He's 19 years old. Actually, that's what
AQ sent me this guy's bio
whenever I put that tweet up.
He's from Medina.
He said, good luck. He's Ohio fuck, pretty much,
who is supposed to be the next one.
It's like, well, how do you end up at Penn State then?
True.
How do you end up at Penn State?
They're like, well, he's starting very, very, very young.
He is going to be starting, and he's going to be the game changer,
they're saying, for James Franklin as a whole.
Like, hey, when Penn State, those games that they don't win,
he's going to be the guy that's going to put them over the hump
and win those games.
That's the expectation on this Ohio quarterback that's young.
Don't let the Mountaineers get hot.
Don't let them fool you.
Don't let the Mountaineers get hot.
Week one.
And then AQ sent up a follow-up.
I think it was like the sizes of who's where.
Of course.
And then the things it's like, we've been hearing that for how many years?
Right.
Back when we were in the Big East, that's all anybody was saying.
Look at him get off the bus.
Okay, the game ain't played walking off the bus.
No, it's not.
You guys were good then, though.
Yeah, we're good now.
Really?
We're going to find out.
Yeah, we are.
We are going to find out.
These kids are getting paid now.
They better be good.
These kids better be good.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Under 5.5 is minus 190, just so you know the odds that we're working with here.
Vegas ain't never liked us anyway.
You guys are listening to the Herbs.
Did you hear Herbie?
Yeah.
He started laughing yesterday.
Loss.
Loss.
Loss.
Loss.
1-5.
2-5.
Nah.
Toss-up coin flip.
Sure, we'll give it to you three and five three and six
that's what he was doing yesterday looking down his schedule houston lost texas a&m lost sorry
texas tech lost he started he started doing texas what do you do you know anything about these teams
kirk what are we talking about right you're throwing us you don't know penn state we don't
even know the kids starting yeah. Kirk doesn't know.
No, Kirk has no idea.
How could he know?
West Virginia here.
Can we pull this?
20 and a half.
It's up to 20.
We're definitely taking that 20.
Okay, I like this.
What is this from?
You got to take a money line.
That is, I believe that's Vegas.
If I recognize that betting side, I believe it's Vegas.
Yeah, I'm right.
We like that, right?
I mean, we like all the books being there.
Oh, yeah, that's great.
This is where all the shops probably shop, right?
Oh, there you go.
There's some value.
Oh, the shop shop.
Is it Vegas odds.com?
Yeah.
Plus 860 money line there.
So that's money line plus 860?
Is that Fandor or DraftKings?
Which one is that?
That's where it's throwing a little bit of money on there, right?
Yes! What are you talking about?
They're beating the Penn State Nittany Lions in Happy Valley.
You want DraftKings because they're higher, actually.
Plus 900.
Oh, so that's...
Yeah, they highlight the best odds that you can find.
Well, thank you, DK.
We will certainly do that one.
Plus 900.
Okay, let's go back to the spread.
Let's go back to the spread now that we know what the fuck we're looking at.
Everybody's at 20 and a half pretty much.
I don't know what the fuck UDOT is.
17 right there.
I don't know what the fuck UDOT is.
Whatever UDOT is.
That's not a real company.
They're going to be out of business.
They somehow got a license because they know the right politicians.
Minus 105, though, for that 20 and a half.
Yeah, the juice.
Get the juice.
Yeah.
Penn State, what?
What's Penn State minus 34 and a half? They're not being the juice yeah penn state what what's penn state
minus 34 and a half they're not oh five touchdowns i'm just saying they're not being this by 20
quarterback no we got one too but no without it he was not our starter last year full season
his first season full time is our starter. But Garrett Green's built different.
You know what I mean?
Not this guy from Medina.
Where's that at?
North East Ohio?
It's a hardcore.
Dogs up there or what?
Closer to Cleveland.
Oh, yeah.
Some studs.
Hardcore hood.
Big-time wrestlers up there.
Tough people.
Tough some bitch.
Wrestlers that they feed into every program in the goddamn country.
Really?
Yeah.
Even the rings that you might not see in the open.
What?
Someone that we just talked to. Once again, referencing this.
Is that where he's from?
Yeah, I believe so.
I don't think so.
I believe he's also a Medina product, yes.
Let's get out of here.
West Virginia's fucking...
The guy's from Pennsylvania that you're talking about, by the way.
Real close to you, where you grew up.
No.
He's a pumpkin.
Ours.
Ours.
Ours away.
How many?
Like 30 minutes?
What?
No, I think we potentially...
You can tell by our physiques we maybe drank from the same waters at least once.
You know what I mean?
At least one time.
He's built like a Greek.
Yeah.
He can bend like a madman
just talking to him and he's in a deep
squat with his butt on the ground. So is Aaron
still fully committed in
body, like through the season?
Is his off-season workouts going to remain
the same during the season? Have you chatted
about that? That feels like a conversation you would actually have with somebody
with how much you love that type of stuff.
I would, but I have not asked them yet.
I'd probably wait until we get through camp to see what that plan might be.
So are we saying jocked all season?
I can lay out some plans if you want.
Better.
He's probably going to try to keep his tan all season.
I know he got a nice deep tan when he was wherever he's traveling the world in the summer.
I'm sure he's more worried about keeping that.
Yeah, he did.
He bought that glass house.
It's like a greenhouse, basically.
Man, a good tan is so good.
Yeah, you look a lot better when you are tan.
Way better.
Overrated.
Speaking for whites or blacks?
Sure. I don't know whites or blacks. Sure.
I don't know.
You tell me.
What do you mean?
Blacks don't like tans.
You don't like getting any darker?
Yeah.
Can't be too dark.
I don't want to be too dark.
But obviously the contrast, like for a white person, that's why bodybuilders get sprayed
because the contrast, the light hitting the angles and everything, it makes them look
much better.
The angles.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Us whites definitely look better with a tan after being sun-kissed.
Now, there is exceptions that are all shameless in the WWE.
Sure.
He glows.
He looks very good.
Connor, on Monday, I believe, when we got back,
if you do recall from the Jabba shot,
he was brighter than that desk that Tone sits at.
He looked great in there.
But everybody else,
so you're saying
you don't want to get darker.
There are people that,
there are black people
that want to get darker or no?
No.
I don't think there's
black people that want to get darker.
Really?
So like light-skinned people
who get in the sun
and get darker.
You're saying they do not want...
You're saying,
are we talking about
the more light-skinned?
Yeah, they probably do want to get in the sun my compilation no yeah but hold on within the
black community the light skin and dark skin there is a lot of shit talk amongst the two yes
for sure a lot yeah i've heard some heavy shots being sent from a probably the
darkest skinned human I've ever seen
to a light skinned gentleman
that I thought the light skinned gentleman was potentially
going to go home and kill themselves
immediately afterwards. That is a real thing.
Okay, got it.
The response though was obviously
great. I just stayed out of
that one. That was a good one for me to stay out of.
What do you think about the super light skinned? You albino fucks get out of here you look terrible
we all agree that you guys look terrible you gotta move on i didn't know that though i didn't know
that you're not trying because obviously because like darius butler for instance very dark he don't
want to get no blacker but he does though oh Yeah, but he had the blackest of the black. Yeah, he is.
D-Butt is black as hell.
Yeah, let's call it D-Butt.
He can't get no blacker.
Yeah, but D-Butt's out in the sun like this.
I almost look like D-Butt.
You can make it to D-Butt?
I don't know if I can make it to D-Butt.
I think you can make it to D-Butt.
You're crazy as hell.
Can you make it to D-Butt?
Oh, no.
D-Butt is a different kind of black.
I've told D-Bud a couple different times that I'm getting into a tanning bed or something.
I'm trying to get to you, Larry, whatever.
And then he'll just send a photo back.
And he somehow has gotten darker because he's down there in Florida getting cooked.
That dude, he doesn't feel heat.
Nope.
Nah.
He doesn't feel heat at all.
It's an advantage.
Yeah, I'd say.
He is, we're calling him right now.
He's probably on a golf course.
No answer.
Fuck him.
All right.
See you, D-Bud.
We had some real answers we needed.
Yeah.
This conversation is never going to happen again.
Nope.
Well, maybe.
Let's put a pin in it.
Okay.
We'll circle back.
We'll be back.
But I think we did learn stuff, though. Black people do get darker. Nope. Well, maybe. Let's put a pin in it. But I think we did learn stuff, though.
Black people do get darker.
Not everybody's trying to get darker.
Correct.
So you're a big sunscreen guy?
Yeah.
What SPF? Like 30?
50? Always a hit. 100?
What's the SPF? 50?
Oh, so we're not trying to get any sun
at all. Love it.
Not at all.
Okay.
And then when that winter coat pops, whoo, looking good.
What do you mean?
When you ain't getting no sun in the wintertime.
Oh, so you guys, the winter is good.
Yeah.
Oh, my God. For us, the winter is like, fuck, I'm about to be the palest dude in time for the next.
That is interesting.
The wintertime, we get our complacent back.
We get fat.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Super pale.
Super pale.
All in on that.
And then the first time the sun comes back, we get red quick.
Speaking of.
Looking good.
AJ, have you seen the petition?
Oh.
I do not believe so.
What does it have to do with?
Let's put a pin in it.
We'll be back tomorrow.
Let's do it.
We don't know what we're allowed to say and what we're not allowed to say.
We might have more updates on it tomorrow.
Certain football team.
Am I going to have to wait until tomorrow?
Or am I going to be able to figure this out before?
Here's the article.
We didn't say it.
I'm not reading it.
I knew about this okay commanders re are demanding that they reinstate it
aj i don't know if you've got a chance to think about this or not we as the dumb whites who hate
winner okay absolutely fucking hate winner we always assumed that the Native Americans
were the ones that told us,
hey, the name of this, terrible, like bad, bad.
This is something that you've made our lives worse
by shoving it in our face, like this whole thing.
That's kind of how it was pitched to me.
I don't know if I'm just speaking for me and for us,
but I think we're all kind of in the same world.
So now we're seeing Native American group comes out and says,
I thought, well, I'm kind of mind blown by it all.
Don't know what to do, AJ.
Honestly, don't know what to do.
Yeah, what will they do, I guess?
It's never going to be like 100% of a group, though,
wants the name back.
There's always going to be give and take.
I'm sure some people still don't want it in that crew.
But I don't know.
There's no way they're going back to it, are they?
There's a chance.
There's a chance.
Has the new owner said anything?
He said a lot.
He said the OG name.
I know he's sitting front row and everything in preseason,
but he wants to make sure the fans are there
for him.
He wants to be on their side.
Sweet hat.
I think what he said in his opening press conference was, if you look at the tradition
and the history of this franchise, and he says...
The name.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
He said it in the opening press conference.
So I feel like he said that knowing that this potentially already happening.
And if you ask those fans,
just from my own case study
of the away game here in
Indianapolis, I think the fans would
vote it back in pretty
quickly. So if you're
going to give them a reason now to vote
it back in, seemingly with Native
American, a Native American group being like,
let's do it
go ahead i think it's gonna i i am a believer that it's gonna happen can they put up to a vote
like legit have a vote put three or four names out there and see what happens next year they
already did that yeah so that's dumb this is a different one stupid commanders you're saying
this well yeah go ahead if you if you put a couple other names you would you could you could tell
pretty quick somehow like,
hey, do a lot of people want to go back to this name?
I mean, that's the only way.
And once again, that would give them an excuse.
Say, hey, a Native American group told us
that they would like it back.
Our fans voted, and it was overwhelmingly
to do this again.
And it's like, they could baby face their way out of it.
But I don't know if those answers
or those questions i mean stop like that would be wild could you imagine us back on this
yesterday though yeah absolutely sliced and diced scary terry had a full that could be coming here
pretty soon because they're talking about changing the name after this upcoming season yeah like
this it's crazy it's a wild development the nfl is always in the middle of some shit, it feels like.
But in this particular case, I feel mind-blown
because I thought it was the complete opposite is the reason why we had
to stop. And then now it sounds like
it's coming out and saying,
we'll continue to go.
We'll have boots on the ground.
We'll have boots on the ground.
I can't believe
Darius Butler didn't answer.
He's golfing.
Have you seen his family golf? Not just him. He's golfing. Yeah. Golfing. He's always golfing. You see his family golf?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Not just him.
He's got the whole family.
They're out there every day.
Right on Sunday.
They're out there every single day golfing.
Whole family.
Yeah.
Dang.
Doing it.
He loves it.
I've been watching his game.
He needs to be out there every day.
Every day.
Dang.
He looks sweet out there.
He looks sweet.
At Zeke's wedding, he said it's coming together.
I can't say anything because my fucking game needs a full rebuild.
Okay?
I need to head down to Home Depot, how doers get things done,
and fucking buy everything they got to create a golf swing.
Okay?
That's where I am.
Yeah.
So I'm not saying anything about anybody's anything.
But Pac-Man said, who's the best golfer in the office the other day?
Bruce.
Foxy is probably the best golfer in the office.
I suck too right now.
We haven't had a round.
Foxy shoots like 78, doesn't he?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He's in the 80s.
He's in the 80s.
He's in the 80s.
He doesn't get himself into trouble, though. He's in the 80s. I mean, what a hurt. He's in the 80s. He's in the 80s. He's in the 80s. He doesn't get himself into trouble, though.
He's a good golfer.
He is a good golfer.
But it is a funny thing.
Like, am I just going to be chasing this dragon for the rest of my life
and not know how to fucking play this sport?
I mean, what do we—
We don't play near enough.
That's all it is.
We've got to play so much more golf to even think that we're going to shoot good scores.
Yeah, well, that and, too, I mean, you shouldn't be going to Home Depot.
You should be going to Lowe's just to get the better product sometimes.
But I think I've decided after the Phil Mendes Classic.
Oh, actually, you shouldn't be going either.
You should be going to Menards, okay?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Safe hardware, baby.
Tractor Supply.
Tractor Supply is a good store.
Yeah.
It's like a Walmart.
It is nice.
Golf carts, go-karts, mowers, all that.
I drive by the front just to see the new vehicles they're selling.
So we don't have to pivot out of that particular market,
but like Cabela's and bass fishing stores, what a time.
Right?
Yeah.
What a time, dude.
You kidding me?
There's giant fish tanks that are 17 billion gallons
with trout and bass and everything.
Yeah, then I see old Cousy to Buffalo up there
and like 45 of his friends fully stuffed on the wall.
Who killed that
uh jake did down there he had a fucking bow and arrow that's actually record buffalo dead
shot it right through the heart from 250 yards out it's like you actually want to go sit in the
stand how far away he was to see what the shot is it's like it's a full experience in there i've i've
i'm i love it they're usually connected to dick's sporting goods, too, so you could waste some good time in that.
Let's do some follow-ups here from today,
now that we're kind of catching a couple updates.
The Toohey family claims Michael Warr attempted $15 million shakedown
before court filing.
This is getting ugly.
It's getting ugly.
Anytime family or fake family kind of get on the rocks,
there's a chance it's going to get ugly.
Uh-huh.
Feels like these two are going to have to put their swords aside at some point and come
together.
If it all revolves around money.
All about the piper.
Let's go ahead and figure that out.
That has to be figureoutable.
Right?
Especially if you own 135 Taco Bells.
Yeah.
Right.
Which we think the Toohey family now does.
Yes.
Exactly.
Being a legend.
They'll settle. They'll have to settle with him. They'll pay him. And also, let's get him back for Thanksgiving. Yeah. Which we think the Toohey family now does. Yes. Exactly. Being a legend. They'll settle.
They'll have to settle with him.
They'll pay him.
And also, let's get him back for Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
Let's not just pay him and settle.
Let's not burn bricks here.
Yeah.
That's his parents, basically, right?
Yeah.
I mean.
Get Big Mike back in the house.
Exactly.
What was the well?
I mean, that's the whole thing.
They're not his parents.
At all.
Yeah.
They were for how many years?
Not by long.
Kind of.
For as many years as he was profitable for is what it's...
Oh, jeez.
It does sound like what is...
It's exactly what it is.
Oh, you're retired?
Exactly what it sounds like.
All right, we'll continue to cover this all the way to tomorrow.
Okay.
If we don't learn anything new tomorrow, we're over it.
All right.
There you go.
Yeah, I like that.
I think this is all going to start.
Yeah, it's going to get ugly.
Someone's going to hire Rusty Hardin in there probably too.
Are they in Texas?
It's going to take 18 months.
We're not going to have any real updates for another six.
I think they're in Mississippi.
They are in Mississippi.
So if we know anything.
I'd be a little speedy.
Ole Miss.
I'd be a little.
I think it's the opposite in Mississippi.
But I also thought it was Tennessee filing.
Okay.
I don't know, but I do know we're in Alabama on September 8th.
Amen.
Hey, Alabama.
2023.
On campus, I do believe.
Come hang out with us.
Why not?
I don't want to be alone in Alabama.
No.
Oh, never.
I'm never alone with you guys, though.
Hell yeah, brother.
Bring a friend.
Bring a couple friends. No, don't bring anybody that doesn't understand
the show, though. That's a whole other thing.
You know? Calm, but like...
It's easy to
explain the show to people that don't really know the show
or haven't seen it. It's really easy to explain kind of what it is.
Nah, everybody's welcome. Come on. We'll have a good
time. And you can leave if you don't want to be there.
Bingo. Anybody can leave.
Anytime they need to. We clipped a BBC talk earlier. Yeah. And you can leave if you don't want to be there. Bingo. Anybody can leave. Yeah. Anytime they need to. We clipped the BBC talk earlier.
We also had blob talk.
Yeah, sucked up.
Linebackers are getting sucked up today, too.
Well, that's true about Dalvin Cook and signing the Jets with
Bruce Hall back there.
Aaron's going to be able to get those linebackers sucked up.
Yeah, suck them all up.
Any AJ.
Everybody's getting sucked.
All of them. All right. That's getting sucked. All of them.
All right, that's a good way to end it.
We'll see you tomorrow.
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