The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 955 - Hard Knocks Episode 2 Recap, Bengals Head Coach Zac Taylor, Falcons Head Coach Arthur Smith, Lucas Glover, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 16, 2023

On today's show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's second episode of Hard Knocks which included training camp fights, Robert Saleh addressing the offensive line in New York, and Aaron Rodgers taking center stage again. Joining the show is the Head Coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, Zac Taylor, to chat about his team going into this season, the expectations now compared to when he first took the job, how Joe Burrow is coming along, and much more (11:38-36:20). Next, Head Coach of the Atlanta Falcons, Arthur Smith joins the show to chat about his culture taking place in Atlanta, his new mustache, his thoughts on training camp fights, what he's looking for in the preseason, how Desmond Ridder is coming along, and more (1:09:34-1:33:57). Later, 2009 US Open Winner, and winner in back-to-back weeks on the PGA Tour and now #4 in the FedEx rankings, Lucas Glover joins the show to chat about getting over the yips, his roller coaster of a career, an update on his Ryder Cup status, how hot in was in Memphis, and more (1:54:08-2:07:53). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Wednesday, August 16th, 2023, this sports program starts right now. Football! It is happening. We're just one day away from preseason week two for most teams kicking off, which means we are just 22 days away from NFL football actually happening in beautiful Kansas City as the Detroit Lions attempt to live up to the hype that everybody is giving them in their first attempt of a 2023 season on maybe making the playoffs for the first time in a long time as they take on Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, who will be hanging a banner celebrating another Super Bowl championship in a dynasty in the making. We're just 20-some days away from that, but right now we've got a lot to talk about.

The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner with his mullet. Looks good. Thank you. Getting the hang of it. We're hitting a hot streak here in back porch barber. He did his deed today as well. Yeah, JC, obviously the Thunderdome barber comes in every single Wednesday, wakes up at like 3 a.m. to drive from where he lives out in bum-fucking-DM.

Yeah. Drives his way up here, always has a great attitude, and his scissors are always hot. Oh, yeah, snipping. He's fantastic at what he does. We appreciate him, and your mullet is doing great things. Good vibes coming off of that dome today just next to Ty Schmidt. Ty, I know Hard Knocks has got to be tough for you to watch

because of how happy it seems that Aaron Rodgers is to be a New York Jet and how much say he seemingly has over there. Everything he dreamt of as a Green Bay Packer, and he even made reference to it to Bryce Young. It's weird being in a new place after you've been at one place for a long time.

And he said, I wish that for you. He wishes, obviously he wishes Bryce success, but I think he also said, I hope that you end up at the same place for a long time because there's something special about that. I think Aaron truly felt that way, but things happen and obviously he moves on into his next chapter in the big city

and Hard Knocks is captivating this year. Hard Knocks is good this year. Hard Knocks last night was a great episode. We'll continue to dive into it here in a matter of moments as we introduce the rest of the incredible crew. Is that a three-quarter zip hoodie with the fucking cowboy hat on one half of the hammer? Don! Cowboys.

You're goddamn right. It's a good eye out of you. Yeah. I mean, I was checking it out. You know, you're a pretty good dresser. I think you— Thank you. I appreciate that.

I think you do—you think about what you're putting on your body. We all do. You don't. It is obvious. I lay out my outfits the night before, so I don't know what you're talking about. No, you don't. You don't. It is obvious. I lay out my outfits the night before, so I don't know what you're talking about. No, you don't. Yes, I do.

You have two outfits. Asshole and bigger asshole. And I lay them out every night. I'm not disagreeing with the asshole aspect of the outfit, but I still lay them out every night before. You look good. With all due respect. Thank you.

You do your thing. Normally, Kai's the sweatpants guy. You're the how-did-that-get-piece-together-as-an-outfit guy. A lot of how did that get pieced together as an outfit guy. A lot of blues and blacks together. Yeah, and all colors. Blues and blacks go together. Yeah, see, it depends what blue. All of them.

See, you caught part of the message about blue and black. No. But you didn't catch all of the message about like an incredibly dark blue. Not supposed to be paired with that. But we're not even fashion gods. Okay, I wear a tank top every day. What I'm saying is, you clearly don't care what you look like in public.

We know that. I disagree. We know that. Ty is a comfort, leisure, swag. Tone cares about his outfits. This is a good one. I think you should feel good about this. I really did.

When I put it on today, you know, I thought about what you said yesterday. You know, when someone puts on a, they think about it, and they put it on, and they put it on a jacket. They want it to be noticed. And I said, you know what? Today, I want it to be noticed, okay? Yeah, and that's why I said, hey, nice three-quarters zip hoodie.

Really nice view. Not only because I don't think I've ever seen something like that before in a long time. Does it have one of these or no? Oh! Does it have pockets? You know, the what? Oh, it's got zippies on the side. That's what I was about to say. Wow.

That's the new ones. Yeah. That thing's the cargo shorts of hoodies. Yeah. Damn, good for you, bro. Thank you. Shit. Another man that dresses better than all of us, obviously, on Day to Day News.

It's actual. He dressed. You need to stop. It's not even a question. Today, he looks awesome because he's repping the team that obviously he played for the longest and the city that he currently resides and the team that will have the head coach of joining us in about 10 minutes of Cincinnati Bengals. Pac-Man Jones is here.

How you doing, Pac? You doing good, pal? Yeah, I'm doing good. What's wrong? What's wrong, Pac? What's wrong? I'm just waiting for my coach. And when Coach gets on here, I'm just going to let him know. If Tone asks a question, just do this.

Just flip him off. Time digs. That guy right there. The guy in the three-quarters. I'm not afraid to call him a loser and flip him right back off. Oh, that'd be sweet. If the guy in the back asks a question, just say, two back-to-back AFC Championship games, this guy.

You're going to call him a loser. No, no, no, no. I'd probably take the jet route and call him a dickhead. Well, that was to a 15-year-back AFC Championship games, this guy. You're going to call him a loser. No, no, no, no. I'd probably take the jet route and call him a dickhead. Well, that was to a 15-year-old kid. It was. Jet Passon really throwing his fastball, looking like Nolan Ryan at 63 last night in that John Boy Media video where I believe it was Passon's kid and his friends taking on somebody.

Right. And, you know, Passon thought that this kid had a little bit more riz, you know, than what he was showcasing in the conversation. So Jet Passon said, you know what? I'm a published author. I'm a fucking media guy. Let me ask these questions. And this kid stiff arms Jet.

Yeah. And Jet gets this. I brought you into this. Not happy. Don't have to be a little dickhead. Yeah, exactly. I love that Jet's back. You know, is that tree trying to get him? Yeah. Trying to get his back. Yeah, it Yeah, exactly. I love that Jet's back. You know, because that tree tried to get him.

He did, yeah. Tried to get his back. Yeah, it did. And Jet's back. Jet's back. With a new back and also backing it up that he ain't got time for anybody's shit, including 15-year-olds who are going to act a little bit high and mighty. Jet, great to see that, pal.

I love you, Jet. Keep flying. I hope Zach Taylor comes in. I hope you have a great conversation with him. I'm excited to chat to him. Also, another head coach joining us today, Arthur Smith of the Atlanta Falcons. Yes. With a mustache.

Big storyline, you know, mustache. Not for everybody, he said, literally, as he got there. I watched the end of the Miami Dolphins-Atlanta Falcons preseason game. And there was like 58 seconds left. I don't remember the exact. But Artie Smith was up like 20-3 or something like that against the Dolphins. And he was calling a timeout or something because he wanted to work on something. And they had

a close-up of McDaniel wearing these trippy yellow sunglasses. He looked so cool. Fresh fade, obviously. No headphones on because they're down 20-3. There was 53 seconds. And they had the camera on him when Artie called a timeout or something. And McDaniel looked across the field like, what are we? And then they showed Art camera on him when Artie called a timeout or something.

And McDaniel looked across the field like, what are we? And then they showed Artie on the other side. He's still, we need to be doing this. We need to be doing this. I wonder where he's at. You know, because when he takes over that Atlanta Falcons team, there's no expectations. Artie Smith, not like a glamorous name either.

This guy was sleeping on a couch in Tennessee. Was he the guy that was the reason they were successful? Or was it Vrabes? Or was it LaFleur there? There were so many other names we didn't really hear already. So when he was hired at Atlanta, I don't think expectations were high at all. Julio Jones wanted to fuck out of there. Matt Ryan wanted to fuck out of there.

They had no idea what it was going to be. He just instilled a hard-nosed football team. We're going to run the ball. Cordell Patterson becomes just an expat pretty much for them, getting the ball in every single play. Now they've got a new rookie quarterback, or not second-year quarterback in Desmond Ritter going into his first year as a starter out of Cincinnati. And a lot of people say, this guy looks like a 55-year-old.

Yeah, he does. You know what I mean? He played a lot of football at Cincinnati, won a lot of football at Cincinnati. What will he be able to do now that the Atlanta Falcons are his team? I'm excited to hear what Artie has to say. Remember, son of a Marine. Yep.

Boo! Raw! Also, son of Remember, son of a Marine. Yep. Ooh, bro! Also, son of the man who created FedEx. Yep. Yeah, same guy. Okay, so Artie Smith with his mustache-having ass could literally be sit up in some office somewhere. Yeah. Just like Schultz could be up in some office somewhere

collecting a check for the rest of his life because of how rich his father is. Now, there's a story about his dad where he went to Vegas, won like a blackjack tournament or something, and that funded FedEx to continue. They were going out of business. He goes to Vegas, actually bets on himself, wins, is able to keep FedEx alive. FedEx obviously now this juggernaut Goliath in logistics everywhere in the entire world. Artie

could just be doing that easily. Just how you doing? Keep it moving. Instead, he picked the miserable life of being a football coach. And although I assume it's fulfilling for him to see teams come together and players get better, it's like to choose that over what he could do, we respect and appreciate, but we

will remind him of that fucking shit when we talk to him today in the second hour. We have to. I mean, are you kidding me? This guy could be making $150 million a year just basically. Well, he will. It's like when his dad passes. Yeah, exactly.

But he doesn't have to be sleeping. He could be sitting on a computer playing solitaire all day, doing whatever the hell he wanted to do. He doesn't need to be putting in 19, 20-hour days, being miserable, being super stressed out all the time. But he chose to do that. He said his dad forced him that way. Yeah.

Right? The last time we talked to him. Go ahead. You know, I love what you do. Do what you love. Hell yeah. Yeah. And he did love football.

And I think Schultz said this, and I'm not saying Artie Smith and Schultz are the same, because Schultz would smack, or Artie would smack Schultz in the mouth. Yeah. Yeah. And I think Schultz would actually dissipate. Yeah. Clay would melt. You know, Marine dad, Starbucks founder dad, a little different.

A little different. Genes are a little different. Yeah. But we still respect both of them for what they do, even though somebody took quite a shot at them there. But Artie Smith told us his dad, like, wouldn't let him, basically. No. Like, our dad ain't going to let him. No. Our dad ain't gonna let him. No, you're gonna work. Yeah, he ain't gonna let me just sit here

and let... Oh, you think I went to the Marines? And you think I went to Vegas and bet it all on this fucking company so you could just sit on your fucking ass? Go sleep on a football facilities couch for the next seven years straight. Don't see your family. Nope.

Print out play sheets. Run and get coffee for these guys. Win some football games. And maybe you'll be something at FedEx. And we'll talk. And then we'll talk. And then Hardy's like, I guess. And now he's the head coach of the fucking Falcons.

Yeah. Unbelievable story. Can't wait to hear the expectation. On In the Trenches last year, A.Q. Shipley, former offensive lineman in the NFL, he literally had the Falcons on like the first four weeks because their systems, their schemes, how they were doing. But then they just stunk.

We couldn't have them be on every single week. But they were a lot better than we expected them to be. Yeah, they were great. And then the phantom call on Tom Brady on Grady Jarrett basically ruined their whole season. Yep, and that's going to change a lot of things. Did he throw or did he place quarterback on the ground? There's going to be a full convo.

Can't wait to chat with Artie. He, you know, I don't know how many full interviews he does. Yeah. He's pretty press conference. We're trying hard. Thank you. We're running the ball right and to the left. Next question.

Yep, we agree. Nope. Football. See you tomorrow. Yep. Bingo. That is what he is. Next question. Yep, we agree. Nope. Football. See you tomorrow. Yep. Bingo. That is what he is. No nonsense. He is. Bang. So we got to get him a little bit. And then he's drinking beers in the locker room with his team after wins. So you know he has it. His players love him.

So it's somewhere in there. We got to try to find it, even though we probably won't. And then playoff PGA champion from this past weekend at the St. Jude Cup down in Memphis, where it was 175 degrees, Lucas Glover will join us. Hey, that's big. Look at us. Come on, Lucas.

It's a company for sports. That's right. Champions in both sports. Aren't we? I mean, that's a real deal. That's a big day. That's a big day. That's trash.

Holy shit. I'm pretty pumped about today. Juiced up. I had no idea when I came in this morning that we were having three legends on. Yeah, I actually saw you and heard you when you realized you packed a good day. Holy shit. Zeke, this is a good day. Yeah.

It is a good day today. It is a great day. Let's make the most of it. I do believe joining us right now. Ladies and gentlemen, this man was hired as a Cincinnati Bengals head coach in the first couple years were not great. A lot of people were wondering, how the hell is this guy going to be able to survive in the NFL?

He was hired allegedly because he had a cup of coffee with McVay, but his offense ain't worth a damn. Insert Joey Burrow. Insert Jamar Chase. Insert his culture. Now it's back-to-back AFC championships and something that every single year we will be expecting a at least 11 to 17 win season. Ladies and gentlemen, no pressure,

head coach of the Bengals who have an indoor facility now, Zach Taylor. That's right. I appreciate you guys having me on. That's quite the introduction. Hey, coach, you deserve it, man. And I think we've been pretty open with you that, like, the first couple years, whenever you got to the Cincinnati Bengals, we had the same thoughts as literally everybody

because it's not easy to be a head coach in the NFL. There's a lot of fired head coaches. I forget the number. It was like $200 million or something. Yeah, like $500 million. Yeah, whatever the number was, was being paid to fired coaches in the NFL by the owners across the NFL because there's not a lot of patience and it's not an easy job. Those first two years, I assume you would even say tough, very tough.

But then you kind of get your culture instilled. Now you have your team there. You got your trigger man, Leo, with his calf. You got incredible weapons. You got a defense that's there. Expectations are high. What is life like now knowing that the expectations are vastly different than what it was before?

And how do you handle that with your team? That's what we've always wanted from the jump. You know, since we were 0-12 and no one's at the game, rightfully so, and we're struggling just to get a win, and now the expectations are very high. This is what we signed up for when we got here. And so we welcome those expectations. We're excited for the season to get going. Do you have to change the way you talk to the team with expectations? Obviously, it's different teams. You talk to them differently. Have you

changed since those days? Has the message changed? Or what is it? How is it for you? Yeah, I'm sure things have subtly evolved for me and the team. But really, these guys are guys that kind of have a built-in chip on their shoulder no matter what um that's a big reason why a lot of them are here and so you combine all those those types of guys and types of personalities and they've always got that right edge to them and so you don't need to you don't always need to construct a message to get them going these guys it's pretty built in for who they are and i think that's why we've had success the last two years the way we've had it so what do you do during the off season now that your team is where it is are you trying to figure out how to get better how do we get afc is fucking loaded coach and now obviously the nfl is hard every conference is loaded every

division is loaded yeah it's the nfl but the afc right now because of you guys and because of the other teams in the afc is very, very loaded. Do you have to think about new strategies, new schemes? How do we get over the hump? How do we go further? Or is it just we got to do what we got to do and get better at our shit? Like how is the offseason for you as a head coach of a team that's expected to win a Super Bowl basically every year now?

Yeah, you said it. I mean, it's a combination of the two. We've got really good players. So you don't want to deviate too much from what they've done really well over the last couple years. But at the same time, you've got to continue to evolve and tweak as teams are trying to catch up to you. So the one thing we believe is this is the toughest division

in all of football, the AFC North. And so if you can win the division, be in contention for the division, you're battle-tested and ready for the playoffs. And so, again, that's what this division serves us so well when you're competing against those three other teams and the histories and the players and the coaching staffs they have. It gets you ready for December and January football, and that's what we found these last two years.

And so we strive to be the best team in the division. If you can come out alive, you've got a pretty good path in the playoffs. Tom, I said it's hot in the kitchen. The AFC North, it's hot in the kitchen every single year. Smash mouth football due to how the stadiums are constructed and how weather happens. You have to be tough. You're the play caller, though, and you got Joe Burrow, okay? And you got Jamar Chase out there.

And you got T. Higgins out there. You got weapons everywhere. How hard is it not to just have him throw the ball 65 times? Honestly, like as a play with how much talent you have you put me in madden and i'm not good at video games but you put me in madden and i have the talent you have it's like sweet every fucking play we are wide open as a play caller how have you developed with this team and is it hard not to just go with all the weapons that you have yeah we get pretty close we

throw the ball quite a bit we leave those guys on the field and i think jamar had almost 100 plays in the season opener last year against pittsburgh uh he was targeted i don't even know how many times so uh that's certainly a mentality that we have at the same time we're playing some pretty good defensive lines so you got to do what you can to take the pressure off the line and hand the ball off and run some of the things that can manipulate the defense that way. But, yeah, you said it. We got a good group of receivers, and we don't want to let everybody off the hook by not trying to get them the ball as much as possible.

Yeah, I don't know how Joey's going to keep everybody happy with that ball, but I guess you have him on the field for 100 plays. Hey, we fucking tried. We had you out there the whole the whole time uh whenever you talk about your offense and being able to have to run the ball to help the defensive line in everything all the defenses that you're gonna kind of face you guys didn't have another line for a while documented we all saw it it was a big part of the conversation now you had humans standing in there but for whatever reason they were turnstiles, and Joey Burrow was getting broken in half.

And you guys were still winning games, though. Like, still, he got seven times against the Titans in the playoffs, win. Yes. Then next one, I think, like nine times on the road, win. Win. And then Super Bowl, I think he— Eight. Eight times.

Eight times. Last play, going to get it again. Almost, I mean, we're like this. So everybody knew that entire offseason, got to fix it, got to fix it, got to fix it. You guys invest in it. Then for like the first six, seven weeks maybe, and then it kind of settled in.

What was it you think that really got your guys to the turning point to become a good group together? And was there any moments where you worried like we're never going to be able to figure out this offensive line? I think that culture in that line room has really evolved over the last four years. You know, Frank Pollock's been here. He's worked really hard to establish the culture he wants in there. We've got the guys that fit that culture, signed some free agents, drafted some guys.

So we feel really good about where that room's at and the identity that they have. And, you know, they're always together. You're in the weight room. You see them in the sauna. You see them in the weight you see them in the weight room they're always together they're always eating together and that's that's the type of bowling culture that we want from our guys and so uh again i'm proud of the room that we got right now and we're expecting big things from those guys were you ever worried though that joey burrow was gonna die on a football field you know what i mean you know i see a lot of quarterbacks get injured over the course of the season you know if you look

around from team to team at the end of last season, that's just the nature of the game, man. The great ones tend to hang on that ball a little bit longer to the last second to make sure that they can let that guy get open. And, you know, they're going to scramble if needed. And so sometimes those guys are going to take some hits. And, you know, I think Joe, if he wasn't playing football, he'd be like an MMA fighter or if he had to go to the other side of the ball,

he'd be a linebacker. So that's just kind of his mentality a little bit. I think he likes it to an extent. We got to do our best to protect him, but that's just kind of the mentality that Joe's got. Yeah. I like, I got, we got visibly frustrated with him whenever he told us,

and this was after he took that one shot in Philly where his head actually went off of his body. And then. He reversed course on a naked. You know, we're going out one way. There's no protection the other way, and he reversed course. And I think Wetcher Cox or one of those guys got him. Yeah, and it was clean.

I've never seen that clean of a shot. His head with the helmet off the body. And then he came back in. I think you guys tied the game, I think, is how the whole thing ended. So he came on our show, and it's always great to chat with him. And, you know, I asked him, like, hey, I saw you lose your head against Philadelphia, and then, like, there's these other shots you took. Like, I was a teammate with Andrew Luck. Like, I understand that it's, like, cool, and that's what football is to you,

but you need to, like, think about the whole program here, you know, the whole NFL. And he said, I like getting hit. I have to get hit. If I don't get hit, I don't feel like I'm in a game. And I was like, oh, no, Joe. Like, Joe, I like getting hit. I have to get hit. If I don't get hit, I don't feel like I'm in a game. And I was like, Oh no, Joe, like Joe, this is not what we need to hear. But I think that's what makes them great though.

What have you seen from him another year? And obviously we know the calf, but like Joe seems to have it right. I mean like everything that they talk about, all those top caliber athletes in every sport, the competitive drive, the spite seemingly the work ethic, the humility, he has it all. That's what we see from outside. What do you see from behind closed doors from when he came into the league to where he is now? And what do you think about him as a competitor as a whole? Yeah, you said it. He's different. He's rare. You have to be around him to be able to describe him. You know, if I sat here and someone hasn't met him and, and they asked for

a description of him, I say, I can't do do it you know he's um he's got an edge to him at all times uh he's just got that killer instinct and he's a he's a champion you know and he won't settle for anything less and so that's that's what you want your quarterback you've been around some great ones before um there's kind of a quality that's indescribable and that's what joe has and so again he's had a great attitude um here in the building we'll be excited to get him on the field whenever that happens. And he'll be ready to go and lead us to a great year. I saw him running with that sports bra on.

Yeah, he looked good. He had that sports bra on that he was throwing. I saw him on it. Did you see that, Coach? It was on the internet. The catapult. Yeah, you're talking about the catapult. Yeah, they've got to make that different.

I mean, you do whatever you've got to do, but they're putting some people in some interesting spots. Not that it's a bad thing. I mean, I wear a tank top every day of but they're putting some people in some interesting spots. Not that it's a bad thing. I wear a tank top every day of my fucking life, so I'm not saying anything. But there are some things that kind of pop up. But we did see him moving. You guys have no worries about Joe Burrow

and his comeback time and everything like that? I feel good about the progress he's making right now. That's what you're getting out of me. A few weeks from a few weeks. I think I could really start picking, though. You're a real good guy. Last question for me me and i know pack and the boys have some and we appreciate your time in the middle of watching how the boys do by the way what are we watching here how'd practice go practice was good yeah yes uh two days ago we had a great practice

so we'll get back at it today and then get on the plane and go see arthur smith and his crew uh tomorrow yeah so we're excited about that. Anything you want me to say? He's coming on like an hour. No, we texted a little bit earlier, so I think we're on the same page. So, yeah, nothing needed from me. All right, let's stay away from the quarterback, stay away from the kickers, stay away from the punters.

We're not bringing any blitzes. Speaking of kickers, Pat, speaking of kickers, 2007, I'm playing in the CFL, bored out of my mind. And I played college fantasy football, and you were the kicker on that team in 2007. So I've kind of always had a soft spot for you. All the games you helped me win there in 2007, playing college fantasy football when I was in a hotel room in Winnipeg, Manitoba. You're playing college fantasy football? You love fucking football, Will.

I was. You love football. I was. I was really bored. We only had four-hour work days from 8 to noon, and so I had to figure out a way to spend my time from noon on, and so I played college fantasy football, and you were a big part of that.

Man, I missed a few that year. I didn't know the pressure of what was going on at Buchanan. I wish I could have made your life a little bit better. There were a couple different days, but boy, if I knew where that ball was going more often, that would have been a whole different story. I was going to hit it every time.

I was going to kick the ball every single time. Hard. I'm going for it. Didn't always know where it was going. Zach, your guy right now, he's going to be like one of the greats when it's all said and done, old money Mac. He's phenomenal, bro. He's on a great pace.

You know, and he's, again, he's just happy-go-lucky guy. Same attitude every single day. Doesn't ride the highs and the lows and pretty dang good golfer also. How are you? You a stick? No, terrible. 19 handicap. Okay, bogey golfer.

That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. I love that. Being, you know, being from Buffalo, the GM, he came in here and sandbagged us. Yeah. Just took us for $50,000 charity or whatever. He's like a four or five. Who has the fucking time?

How do you have the time? Kevin Huber. Kevin Huber was my partner in my member guest tournament I played in this summer. So he always carries me to a pretty good victory there. So what you say, hey, Kevin, you're going to have to fucking retire. You don't have it anymore, but also need you to golf with me? Is that how that works? Correct.

That's exactly how it works. I love Huber, man. I went to college same time as him. When you were doing college football fantasy, I hope you drafted him because he was really good at Cincinnati or whatever. Then we get drafted same year, him obviously before me. Then every training camp, you know, Colts and Bengals played. So, like, I've stayed very close to Huber.

What a legend. Absolute legend. Moving on from him, probably not easy at all for anybody in that building, I assume. No, it's a challenge. But he's still around. You know, he still comes to practice and came to the preseason game. And I went to his retirement party the other night. So he's doing really well.

Was the retirement party at the Blind Pig here? Listen, this is a cool thing. We pulled up this picture. Yeah. Because, honestly, when I saw it happen, it made me feel like it was like what people describe as the old days. You know what I mean? Like back in the day,

it is thought that the celebrations in the cities after like football games or something good happened, everybody somehow at the same place, everybody sharing the same moment with the same vibes. So whenever you were on a microphone, I think at this place saying, hey, this game ball is for all of you. I'm like, how did they pick that bar?

Is that where Zach gets boothed up at? Is that where he's a regular? And also, how did this become a thing? I think everybody should have this. I'm sure Cincinnati loves everything about this out of you. Well, the first bar I gave it to, Mount Lookout Tavern, is right by my house. So I drive by it twice a day on the way to work, on the way home. Always see people in there. Always kind of envious of, hey, on a Thursday night, Sunday night, that's what they get to do. They got taller wells. Damn.

Yeah, I don't know what they got in there. But anyway, as we're walking off the field to beat the Raiders for that first playoff win in however many years, I'm immediately trying to get the ball and get someone to write the score on the ball and send it into that play. So we've had a fun experience doing it. It's pretty random how we choose them. The real challenge is after away games, when we get back at midnight,

calling the bars to see if they're going to be open while also not trying to give away what we're doing because I like it to be a surprise and you walk in and nobody knows where you're coming. So I've been hung up on it many times trying to call a bar to make sure they stay open, and they keep hanging up on me at midnight. So there's been a couple missed opportunities by a couple places here in town well they need to say listen ohio okay in the cincinnati area let's stay on our piece of kids okay we need to

celebrate that's old school zach that's old that's not like that doesn't feel like a 2023 thing at all your whole team feels old school like joey feels like an old school guy. The way Lou Ann Rumo. I mean, you got like an old school college feel over there. Do you guys sense that? Do you sense that in the building? I do. Yeah? I do.

Yeah, I really do. I mean, these guys are, they want physical practices. We also do a great job, I think, taking care of them during training camps for the first throughout the year. But they got that mentality, you know, and it's, I can probably list 20 guys probably list 20 guys that I think are big-time leaders on this team. So, again, I think these guys are built to the right stuff, and that's why we've had the success that we've had. Hell, yeah.

You do pretty good, too, pal. Yeah, you do pretty good, too. Pat has a question for you, sir. First of all, I wanted to tell you, Coach, you're doing a great job. We're a bucket hat team. We wear bucket hats. My first question was um the defensive line and the linebackers look great we lost two safety last year but cam looked

really good yesterday dj turning looked good also yesterday i think lou is doing a great job can you um tell us about this young guys in the secondary um yeah safeties yeah so i'll start with the safeties you know we took dax hill in the first round two years ago uh he played a smaller role last year but now that we lost jesse and von he's gonna have to step up and sign nick scott from the rams who played four years there i took jordan battle in the third round from alabama we think highly of him so it's a good mix of guys uh that are going to fit into that room and then like you mentioned you know we got cheeto woozie coming back off of the ACL.

Woozie! You know, he'll be back here sometime. So, again, he's a starting corner, high-end corner in this league. You got D.J. Turner, Cam Taylor-Britt, Mike Hilton. We feel like we got a really good group in there on defense. Yeah, nobody will hire Lou. So that's good. No, we don't want Lou to go nowhere.

Yeah, I understand. That's right. I keep calling all these owners, telling them how bad he is. Yeah, so it is you. Yeah, it is you. Because we're out here wondering, because he comes on the show. He's awesome. Like, absolutely awesome on the show.

Your guys' team, incredible on the defensive side of the ball. Seems like everybody's bought in on every single play. It's like, that's what we're looking for right there. And then it's like, how many times have you been interviewed? Like, four times or something. How many years? 70 years. What the fuck happened? How did this happen? But I understand it's like, how many times have you been interviewed? Like four times or something. How many years? 70 years. What the fuck happened?

How did this happen? But I understand it's good for you guys. But as a team that's been through like six coaches here, you know, in like the last seven years, I don't know how we didn't let Paisano slip through our grass. One time. Hey, early preseason, early training camp, defense beat offense always? Or are you keeping track of that type of stuff?

Yeah, I don't always like to look at it that way. If I feel like it's tilting that way, I might have to set up a drill where it goes the other way real fast. Yeah, smart, smart. Yeah, we did a get back on track drill yesterday, and the defense, you know, they won that drill. And I'm calling plays on second, 10, third, 9, and I thought that's the last time I'm ever doing this drill.

So you walk up and feel bad about yourself. So we try to set it up to where we have a little bit of success on both sides. All right, we're going seven on three. Seven on three, you guys get one single high safety, two corners, and then we get to kind of run our thing. I love that. I love everything about that. Connor has a question for you, Coach.

Yeah, Coach, you just mentioned kind of the physicality of the practices and how the guys like that, but I mean summer days in Ohio, it's not always the coolest. It can get a little hot. How do you kind of temper expectations with fighting during the preseason? Because obviously that's a big thing on the internet now, especially with the joint

practices. Like you guys going to Atlanta, I assumed you might have told Artie Smith like, hey, our guys might kick the shit out of you because they've been waiting to fight some dudes for a while. But how do you kind of relay that to the team and also still want to have that fire in the practices? Yeah, I mean, we preach, you know, in a game it's a penalty, but I get that these guys go against each other enough

to where their frustrations can get the best of them sometimes. We practiced with the Packers last week. We got in two fights um told the team no fighting got in two fights it kind of guys were able to get it out of their system a little bit nobody got hurt it was uh you know in the moment that's not what we wanted but but the guys were able to handle the business on the next play and get good work done. So they got out of their system, and we had a good practice. It's impossible. Like, we have talked about it as impossible.

Impossible. I don't know. It is a – I don't even know how you would – I appreciate that the coaches have to say that. Like, D'Amico Ryan's yesterday, who's probably been in – In them. Oh, yeah. I have no idea how many.

He's like, yeah, we got to tell them we got work to do here. We're not trying to waste our time on fights. I'm like, yeah, you can say that. Just as somebody that has been on the other side right behind everybody just watching. I don't think anybody's hearing that message. I think that one's going in one, right out the other. But it's good.

If your team didn't, wouldn't you be worried? I think. Sure. yeah. We might not have had any fights my first two years here, so it might be a good thing that we've gotten a few. Last year with the Rams and this year with the Packers. Okay, let the boys go ahead and sort it. You're getting a culture.

I love that. Go ahead, Tone. Coach, you talked about the division and the AFC North and how tough it is. Harbaugh and Tomlin have been there for a combined probably 40 years, I think now. Has the interactions with them who've been there forever, has it changed from your rookie season as a head coach to now coming off back-to-back AFC championship games? I don't think it's changed. You know, everyone's always cordial with each other. Obviously, we've had different in-game experiences now. The first two years, they beat us every time, basically. And these last two years, it's been a lot more even. But it's always respectful.

You know, I think those guys have done a great job with their teams. And so it's always a respectful attitude towards each other. Who would win in a fight, you think? Tomlin, right, probably? Fuck no. Yeah, I'm a quarterback at heart, so I haven't been in a whole lot of fights in my life. So I don't...

I'd give my best, though, Pat. I can promise you that. I'd go down fighting. I think Cincinnati loves to hear that. Speaking of Cincinnati, whenever you guys got, like, an Ohio guy as your quarterback, is there anything better?

That stadium, the jungle, it is... Watching at home, like that stadium the jungle it is watching at home it feels different from watching it it's like hey it's that's a college atmosphere there like the the crowd the city you said the first couple years obviously there wasn't some people it wasn't filled up every single home game because you guys started 0 and 12 and the team was like this ain't what we're spending our money on if this is what you're doing now complete opposite yeah come what do you think about the bangladesh fans as a whole and where do you rank them across the league and i know this is like a super pander question but i think it is like a

real thing to talk about because some fan bases really affect i think like how the team performs and it feels like your atmosphere is one of those now, especially with how Joey is getting momentum going. It's like, that's a real home field advantage in the NFL where there isn't a bunch of them, I don't think. You're exactly right. And my first exposure to this city was in 2012. I was at the Dolphins. We played in those 2012 Bengals teams.

Those were good, hard-nosed teams. And we came up here. We stayed the night. UC had a game the night before. Then we played the Bengals the next day. I remember walking away thinking, this place is incredible. You know, I've never been to Cincinnati before, but their fan base in both college and pro is next to none. And I've really experienced that over the last five years here. We feed off these people, they feed off of us as well. And so it's a small, big city, you know, and so you feel like you know

everybody around. It's not one of those big New York know, and so you feel like you know everybody around. It's not one of those big New York or anything like that. So I've really enjoyed being here, and like you said, we feed off our fans. I think our fans feed off of us. Got to keep that show going. Yep. With that in mind, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, I know this isn't necessarily your jurisdiction completely, but after Justin Herbert's contract gets done everyone

immediately goes and says okay well when are the bangles gonna get joe herbert or uh you know burrow done and then not on top of that you know you got jamar chase and t higgins is that the kind of thing where like are you just kind of letting duke handle all that stuff like is is it difficult navigating that is that something you have to constantly keep tabs on or is it one of those things where hey i'm i'm just assuming these these guys know we want them in cincinnati and something's going to get done and i'll just kind of worry about the the day-to-day stuff on the field yeah i really leave that to the front office i found that's better um but again i always told the players i'm a resource if you need it but we've been really fortunate that these guys have gone about their business

the right way, you know, and not created any issues with us. And so been fortunate that way. Again, these guys know I'm here if they want to talk about it. But I do leave that to the front office and let them handle all that. Why don't you guys just give them all the max contracts? Yeah. Void years. That's how it works.

You know what I mean? That is 100% how it works out here. You've done an incredible job coaching that team, bringing a culture that I think everybody fears now, the Cincinnati Bengals. Nobody wants to play the Bengals anymore. You should be incredibly proud of that. And you've got an indoor dome.

Huh? We're using that. We're using it. You're using it? We just did our walkthrough in there 10 minutes ago. It was great. Soft? You feel like you're getting softer as a team?

No, I don't. I sure don't. No, we got it last october we use it about three days a week it's been outstanding no you guys it'll make you soft i heard yeah i heard the reason because it makes it soft you know what happens you know what i did play the opposite side of the coin for the three years leading up to having it you know we got to be outside we're playing all of our games outside the road to the super Bowl is always outside in stadiums. But now I've softened that stance a little bit. It seems like a lot of stuff done got better over there. I had a chance to run through the building the other day with the recovery room,

the new glasses, all of the shit that y'all put in the back. Mr. Brown putting a lot of money in there. Yeah, the cryo, the red light therapy, the float tank, all that stuff. All that stuff's getting in place right now, so the guys are enjoying it. Yeah. Really? Spending money. Hey, let's go.

Hey, that's good news. Float tank. We love that. I know you love that because your players love that, which makes your life easier so you don't have to deal with people bitching. That's awesome. Congratulations to everybody over there. Good luck at practice. Good luck the rest

of the way, and we hope to chat with you again soon. Awesome. Appreciate it, fellas. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals with an upgraded facility. Zach Taylor out of here. That was awesome. Yeah, the upgrade.

I mean, indoor facility. Cryo stuff. Yeah, the upgrade. I mean, indoor facility. Cryo stuff. Yeah, they got a cryo. They got the red light therapy. It's like seven different rooms, Mr. Brown. I think there's some people that would assume that an NFL team would have this stuff in their building. Yeah. Naturally, people would think that.

I already redid the new training room. Four cold tubs. three hot tubs. It's pretty decent. Float tank? You've done a float tank. I'm sure. I have a good float tank. Those work perfectly for Ted Karras and those guys.

Yeah, a little float-etarium. You know what I mean? I know how to cut. Huh? Did that shit the first time and just had to get my hair lined up. Ruined it? Not ruined it. It was burning. Oh.

Because you did. A haircut. A little after. That's right. Exactly. Anyways, you would assume that any NFL team would have all that stuff. It's not the case. No, it's not. So to hear that that

particular family. He's doing it. It's not the case. No, it's not. So to hear that that particular family. And since he. He's doing it? Yeah. Hell yeah. Good for the Bengals. Good for Houdet. Getting softer.

Well, he said he was a big. Yeah, just like the Bengals fans were saying to us whenever I raised the question of how a team who is in a four-season climate in the NFL making billions of dollars, how they don't have an option to practice inside if they make it to the Super Bowl and there's a blizzard. That happened.

Exactly. That happened. Before. We were saying this before that actually happened. Then all of a sudden, Super Bowl practice happens and they're waiting for the University of Cincinnati's field hockey team. They could only use half the field. To get half of the bubble that they were using from Cincinnati.

And that is Joe Burrow stepping over piles of ice and snow to get in there in the University of Cincinnati's facility, and they could only use half the field because the field hockey team had the other half already reserved. They had a big game next day. They're huge. They're Super Bowl, I think some would say. And Cincinnati's like, this is ours, not yours.

They actually are playing in the Super Bowl. Legitimate Super Bowl. And all the Cincinnati Bengals fans were telling me that I was soft just because I couldn't get it and understand it. Like, don't try to make their team soft. This is football. Okay, you play outside. You walk across a highway, play underneath another fucking highway.

You get to do that, too. It's like, I don't know if that's – like, I'm not against you, the fans. I'm actually saying, like, hey, the ownership of this fucking team needs to maybe appreciate what they have a little bit more. You put an indoor facility, maybe there's extra reps happening. In the middle of December when it's real cold, guys maybe don't want to go out underneath the highway and run extra reps, but you maybe put a little roof on something that might be out there. That makes the team better.

Not everyone was born and raised in Cincinnati. You have some guys who are from Florida and California. Or Atlanta. You don't want to be outside when it's negative 15 with a 30-degree wind chill. And whenever they cut to a clip from your practices, there shouldn't be fur coats underneath uniforms. That's bad for NFL apparel. That's bad for practice.

You think guys are playing good football when they got the look of the guy from A Christmas Story, Ralphie or whatever the fuck his name was, the little kid with his whole thing out there? Not good. Just get a little dome. And guess what? You can make it cold. And they did.

Not only did they do that, they were like, you're right. Okay, fuck it. If this team's going to be good, we will invest. Okay, all these other fuckers weren't. If these ones are good, we'll do it. And then now they're upgrading the whole building? Congrats to the Bengals fans. Yeah, look out. Honestly, that's a big deal. Okay, all these other fuckers weren't. If these ones are good, we'll do it. And then now they're upgrading the whole building? Yeah. Congrats to the Bengals fans. Yeah. Honestly, that's a big deal. Yeah, huge.

When your owner's invested, that normally means you're going to win. That's just kind of how it goes. And the way he's doing it, they don't have to leave the stadium for nothing. You know, like, you don't have to go and get a cryo. You don't have to go and get a red light. They have it all at the stadium now. Yeah, I love the fact he just – Zito just brought up a photo.

This is from the Bills practices. Oh, yeah, that's how it be. And when it get cold, you have to. Yeah, the Bills had the option to go inside. They chose to go outside. That's right. This guy said, well, I think that's a bad decision, Coach. And said he's doing this.

We were right here. That was every day in Cincinnati. Yeah. That's every day in Cincinnati. They're keeping their new stadium. They're keeping it open. They're not buying into the dome or anything like that. That's because Bean, did you hear what Bean told us?

Bean said when you think of Buffalo Bills football, you think of snow and elephants. There's some cities that would revolt if they had to put a dome on them. Pittsburgh's one of them. Green Bay's another one. New England's one of them. Buffalo probably another one. But then everybody says of them. Buffalo, probably another one. I'm sure.

But then everybody says you never get in a Super Bowl, then. Yeah. Yeah. Those franchises, though, are just hoping you're going to go play in one anyway. You don't necessarily need it at home. Yeah. Concur. What I'm saying, that's always the...

Yeah, Northeast. The flip side of it. Yeah. Yeah, because what? New York had a Super Bowl, right? They did, yeah. Was that Seahawks-Broncos? I didn't go to the game, but I was there for the game.

It ended up being like 45 somehow. That's like when the Colts were in Indianapolis hosted a Super Bowl. Our city should not host a Super Bowl with how cold it is around that time, but it has a dome, obviously. It was perfect. It caught a summer.

I forget how to describe those summers that uh i remember that show up in the uh i remember in the middle of winter i don't know i'm not saying it what do they say i am not saying it come on i'm not especially right now don't do it now is not you wanted to say that's right real bad. Yeah, now is not the time. Summer and winter? Yeah. We didn't create this. No, no. I didn't know.

I just want to. Anyways, one of those happened. Yeah. And Indianapolis was like 65, 7 degrees with no wind for the entire week. This is real. It was 65 degrees for the entire week in the middle of fucking February in Indianapolis. And then the next week, I think we got snow and storm immediately afterwards. It was like

football gods came through. And then Indianapolis was like, we need another one. I'm like, oh, buddy, I think we should just kind of skirt out of there with a very good memory in everybody's mind. Because our city is perfect to host the Super Bowl. It's awesome. Because everything is connected. So everything's small. So you want to go to this party?

Then you want to walk over to this event? then you want to walk over to this event, then you want to walk over to the stadium, then you want to be in a convention center. It's all literally within each other. The only worry is the weather would be ass. And instead we got perfect weather. People are on zip lines from one side of the city to the fucking other. In the middle of February in Indianapolis, it was like, how did this

work? How did they find out? Football guts. Just like up in New York. Exactly. But I don't believe there will ever be those in Foxborough. Although Kraft can control the weather. That is what people said was possible. And he might do that. I don't think he will anymore with the new video board. But I mean, they did the College Football National Championship two years

ago in India. And it was perfect. It was George Obama. It wasn't too bad. It was a little chilly. I don't think that's how all the fans felt. I don't think the fans thought it was perfect here. Really? Yeah, because there was really no events outside because of how cold it was. You go to those. Nice inside. Like down in the south, for instance, which both these teams were from.

You go to one of these college football games. It's a festival. Like outside. It's a whole day. Tailgate. It was so cold. Yeah. It was so cold.

Yeah, there was no real anything like that. Might be a college football playoff curse because let's remember it rained inside last year too. LA also, I don't think that was the right setup for a college football. Because that's way out there. Way out there. Yeah, that area of LA. If you're going to do it out there, it's like Pasadena, baby. Yeah, or like the Coliseum, but they wouldn't do that because it's a shithole.

Like SoFi is beautiful. It is. It's unbelievable. I mean, it doesn't have a roof. And it rains sideways sometimes. And, you know, you have to delay games because lightning's like 10 miles away from a stadium that has covering. So that doesn't make a lot of sense. Two feet of standing water on the concourse.

Well, that's probably the only game they can get it filled up. What's that? National championship? Yeah. And so far in L.A.? Yeah. For a regular season game, ain't nobody going. Anything smaller than that.

Where do teams go? What's that? Where do teams fans go? No, ain't nobody going. Anything smaller than that. Yeah. The away teams go. What's that about? The away teams fans go. No, he's talking college. No, I'm saying like it's not sold out there. Where, SoFi? Yeah. I think the Rams.

Don't you think the Rams? Do they not? If the fucking 49ers show up, they'll fucking sell that shit. Hey, I saw the 49ers in Vegas this weekend at that preseason game. It was a lot of red. I mean, Vegas is kind of asking for away teams. They're actually marketing it. Like, hey, come get a suite here.

We'll give you this amount of tickets to the game. You'll be able to do this. That's a great setup for the NFL. But I wonder if Raiders players and Raiders coaches are like, we have zero home games. You know, because it's at least 50-50 split because people are going to be selling their tickets off. Although Raiders fans are awesome.

We're not saying that. But if people want to take a Vegas trip to go see a game, I think they're going to want to do that over going to Indianapolis to see their team play. I'm going to go to Vegas and do that. That's set up for fucking away games in there. Still, though, that stadium, with how loud it is, do you think they can even discern between when the home fans are cheering

and the away fans? It's a fucking party. Well, they got that Wynn nightclub right off the edge there. What a setup that is. Charles Woodson was doing an interview from there, sitting down because he did something with his whiskey. Wow. And I think with Wynn, I think he was their official partner.

Yeah, with Wynn win there was just a bunch of people boozing heavily yeah right behind him in the shot you know because it's all the local it's all the local broadcasts yeah so like there's cameras on but nobody's telling any of the people in this nightclub behind him right like hey you are currently live on there's this one lady take she took like five selfies of herself right in the back sipping on a drink and then you see her look at it. I'm like, is anybody letting her know that she's on camera? And does she care?

Does she know she's at a football game? I don't think so. It's a good event. It's a good set. So far it's nice, as is Allegiant Stadium. That Buffalo Stadium, they better have big ass buffaloes. That is what people are most upset about. Let's start diving into some stuff that's happening around the nfl world shout out to zach taylor cool guy yeah sweet cool guy former big 12 offensive player of the year whenever he was at nebraska people

forget about that now he's head coach for the bangles which is one of the greatest offenses in the nfl the only issue is the greatest offense in the nfl is also in the afc and the kent city chiefs and then if you think about that, what offense has done, like the Philadelphia Eagles also, their offense is very efficient. It's like where they're great, everybody's great. Will they be able to carry that and then the defense do their thing? I hope so. Because a Super Bowl parade in Cincinnati would be reckless.

It would be awesome. You see what they do for the Reds' first game? Oh, yeah. The Reds' first home game in Cincinnati. It is a parade. Every year. It's a festival. It is huge.

Could you imagine the Bengals win a Super Bowl in a parade in Cincinnati? Oh, my. It is tough to imagine since they never have, but it's probably. Well, that's why you have to imagine it. It's coming. You know what I mean? Why is this guy's deal? What's this guy's deal?

You know his fucking deal. That AFC North. Hot in the kitchen. All I know is I put on my professional this guy's deal? What's this guy's deal? You know his fucking deal. That AFC North. Hot in the kitchen. All I know is I put on my professional hat and I asked him a real question. You couldn't do the same for Omar Khan. Yeah, you chose not to ask a question to sweaty Omar Khan. Omar Khan was the asshole that didn't say hey to me, so I gave him what he gave me.

Oh, so you think that was an early shot? Hey, is AJ here? Boys here? You think that's awesome if omar khan did that i didn't even notice that little shit talking within the air north speaking of shit talking let's talk about the hard knocks episode last night that was a good episode i think hard knocks is doing well this year yeah now obviously they're focusing on a lot bigger names and there's a lot bigger names on the jets as a whole but they're not doing a lot of the who gives a fuck stories

right you know in our eyes although some people probably love that. There was an eye-piercing story. Yeah, Will McDonald. He's their first-round pick. It's not like he's a fringe guy who's about to get cut. Yeah, I mean, cool. We don't want to see his eyes getting pierced. Everybody fast-forwarded through that

section of the episode because everything else was awesome. No offense to that guy. I think his piercing looks cool. It does look cool. It doesn't look cool. What's that? It doesn't look cool. I thought it looked pretty cool.

It did. Yeah. He's got a bunch of them, though. He's got three of them. And they all look cool. Boom, boom, boom. There's two on the nose. You didn't think it looked cool?

Nah. Bro, super cool. This is more of a clean pack. You've lost the lunch pack, man. You do it. No. Nah, it's not my style. It doesn't look cool on us. Nah, it wouldn't be cool. You've lost the hodgepodge, man. You do it. No. No, it's not my style. It doesn't look cool on us.

No, it wouldn't be cool. It's cool on him. I don't know. I still think it'd be cool on you. I'll think about it. I mean, it'd probably add to how cool I was. To be honest, I think he'd look pretty cool. I think he'd look pretty cool, too.

I think you guys would look cool. We should all just get appearances. No, nonetheless, none of us would look cool as that guy. No. Which is cool. And they should have maybe done a zoom in on his face and be like, look how cool this guy looks. Didn't need the whole piece. But that piece used to be what this whole show was.

Yes. On like not only him, but like different people. Now we're getting like real shit. Hey, we're getting real shit out of Hard Knocks. And former players, I think anybody that watched that episode is like, okay, now we're getting into it. There were some moments where Aaron was talking to both the offensive coordinator Hackett and to his offensive line where it wasn't just like the normal kumbaya motivation shit. It was like real football

stuff. Like, hey, gonna have to do this. Like, this is how this actually goes. The NFL, this isn't college football. I appreciated that. And then there was a moment where Robert Sala was talking to the offensive line in the middle and in front of the entire team that I don't think I've seen one of these in a long time published publicly,

but I'm happy it was. But this also gives us an indicator of how the Jets feel about their offensive line, just like how the rest of the media is talking about the offensive line. This is Robert Sala addressing the team after their first joint practice with the Carolina Panthers. So this is the first day that they get to play against somebody that isn't the New York Jets. Remember, the New York Jets defensive line, very fucking good.

So Salah was probably saying to himself, our offensive line doesn't look as great because our defensive line is so good. This comes after practicing against another team's defensive line for the first time on Hard Knocks last night. So last night, I went back in my office i turned off my lights and i would just watch a silent tape all right you guys know how important to me the silent tape is because the silent tape represents who the fuck we are defense our style was all over this bitch yesterday and it was awesome to see because that's our standard that's

who we are all right offense guys it was our first fucking opportunity to change the stink that's who we are. All right. Offense. Guys, it was our first fucking opportunity to change the stink that's been in this organization for a very long time on the offensive side of the ball. You can have a Hall of Fame quarterback. You can have two $10 million plus receivers. You can have a reigning offensive rookie of the year. You can have all kinds of skill in the running back room. None of it fucking matters until the big boys up front change who the fuck we are. We as coaches, we as an organization can't want it more than you. And I'm watching that tape all night last night trying to find something to show that we're fucking changing. And it didn't show.

And it was our first op. And I'd love to say we got another practice. But you know what? It's like Sunday. You don't get Monday morning to go redo It's getting your mind right to represent who the fuck you are every single fucking time you are on the fucking field We'll fix for footwork. We'll fix all that shit, but you can't fix shit until we know you're giving everything you got Making it fucking hurt straining and fighting for everything you fucking got because we will go as you go we proved last year that we're a seven and ten football team with a really fucking good defense and a mediocre offense that's that's about

what we proved flip that fucking shit we don't get any more second chances. Oh, I love it. I absolutely love it. I enjoy that it's in front of the entire team. I enjoy that Salah said the uncomfortable thing. A lot of coaches, not saying a lot in the NFL, but a lot of coaches in general will shy away from that because it's not fun to be the bearer of negative news to anybody, let alone an entire group and letting them know, hey, you are letting down the rest of us right now.

alone an entire group and letting them know, hey, you are letting down the rest of us right now. The fact that Sala has the gumption, the gut sack to do that shows me a lot about him as a coach. I'm assuming everybody else in the room was like, thank you, coach, because players are thinking the same exact thing. The coach delivers the message, and now hopefully the offensive line will hear that message and change. But I like the way Robert Sulla acted in hard knocks last night.

I'm a big fan of what they got going. And I am a little bit worried about this offensive line mostly because of how worried they seemingly are about the offensive line back. And yeah, I don't think we over exaggerating or going too fast or too quick. If the offensive line don't get fixed, it's going to be a long season.

And he said it best. You know, we plan for jobs out here. We don't spend a whole bunch of money to get where we need to get fixed. It's going to be a long season. And he said it best. You know, we're playing for jobs out here. We don't spend a whole bunch of money to get where we need to get. And you big guys up front got to get y'all ass together. And sometimes it takes a little time for them to get together. So I'm not in a panic mode. I think with the weapons they have, it may take a little time, but they'll figure out how to get it

going. I hope so, too. And obviously, any offensive line has the capability, if they have the size and the ability to be in the NFL, to gel together and become a cohesive unit. That is obviously great for your team to succeed. Have to have a good offensive line to have success in the NFL. That is just how it is. Not only in the NFL, but in football in general.

You have to have a good offensive line. Not a sexy job. Not one that is desired by me or many people, but have to have it be great for your team to be good. And Woody Johnson was talking to Robert Sala last night about the contract that he paid Quinn and Williams. He said, exact quote from Woody Johnson to Robert Sala about Quinn. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money we paid back then.

He got 10 sacks in one practice in his eyes. Make it 11, Aaron Rogers says, as he kept track. Love the way Aaron and the team seem to be bonding and coming together in the way they're practicing. But that offensive line thing wasn't just a solid thing. Aaron was talking about it a little bit too during the entire process. Yeah, he was pissed.

I think he said we're going to block anybody up front today when they were doing the Carolina Panthers joint practice. We mentioned it yesterday about how tough some of the D-lines are going to be playing are, and that is definitely true. But we also talked about it, and I'm not sure if it was before or after the show or during the show, like Hackett and Rodgers are going to game it.

They're not going to go into every game expecting to have a great pass rush. Hey, maybe we'll learn. Maybe we'll learn not to call that play from that formation, you know? Maybe. That's what Aaron was saying. Hackett was literally standing right here. Rodgers will scheme it. We learned a lot about Hackett, too.

Flipped off Quentin Williams in the middle of practice. Love that. Him and Aaron were getting into it a little bit. It's like, I really enjoy what I'm seeing out of this team. But it was a little alarming how they were talking about that offensive line. To go back to your point, they can scheme it, but also D-lines can just wreck games, no matter what their scheme is.

Especially in the AFC East. I mean, you could argue that the strength of everybody's team in the AFC East is their defensive line. Including the Jets. Including the Jets, yeah. They're going to be fantastic. And even in the preseason game, they showed it. The guy that was getting his piercings,

the first-round pick, Will McDonald, he's going to be great. The guy that was getting his piercings, the first round pick Will McDonald he's going to be great. Cool piercings. Great piercings. Thinking about it myself you guys should too. Quinton Williams is going to be all pro and then Jermaine Johnson's not too shabby himself but it does feel like the offensive line is going to be the

Achilles heel of the team and that might kill him in the end. Not even just the East. Within the first six weeks they also play Dallas K KC, and Philly, who all have fucking incredible defensive lines. So they're going to find out quick within those. What we're going to learn is every team probably has a good D-line. The good ones. The good ones, yeah.

Bad football teams won't have a bad. But good teams going forward are going to have a great defensive line. Why? Because the defensive line can affect who? The quarterback, which is where all the money is going on everything. You just kind of follow the money. You'll be able to figure out what is important to being successful. And you're talking about offensive lines on the other side protecting them.

But there's a reason why everybody's investing in the defensive line. Because it's like scheme, strategy, cool, cool, cool. You get like Quinton Williams in that shit, and that's just practice. And I get it. It's just training camp. But shit. He feels like a guy who got paid a lot of money, and now he wants to prove worth all this money.

As opposed to a potential defensive lineman or any other position group in the past who's gotten paid and said like, okay, I got paid. I'm good to retire now. there's many other situations where this is taking place but he is like seemingly i don't know what he was like before leader on that team loud on that team entertaining on that team yes and wants to be great talking shit in practice like a lot of shit in practice that means he's there and he cares that's a big deal they got a real squad can't let that offensive line fuck it up well and you assume that's part of the reason

why they all are so worried about it is because like yeah it may take a little bit of time for them to gel but tone mentioned like they have a murderer's row that first six weeks like you can't have your offensive line completely blow up the season if you go one in five the first six games because you can't protect rogers and then you're just playing catch up the season if you go one and five the first six games because you can't protect Rodgers, and then you're just playing catch-up in a conference that you can't really afford to play catch-up because there might be ten teams that could legitimately be in a position to make the playoffs in the AFC.

The good news is they were a seven and ten team with that horrible, horrible offense last year. That's the floor. When you bring Rodgers in there, I mean. And you got to realize, when you got horrible lines, what do you do? Run the ball downhill. And get the ball out. Yeah, run the ball downhill, get the ball out quick,

because the bad play set, I mean, bad linemen, it's because of play set, because they came back when it's on the pass rush. 90% of these guys can block really good when it comes to pass. It is interesting how some guys are good pass protection and then not good run, which would make sense because you probably got to dance a little bit. And then there's some guys who are great at the run game

and then going backwards, not that great. It is actual weakness. Now, obviously, everybody's looking for people that can go both ways, that weigh 320 pounds. I mean, mean obviously that's not easy to find jason kelsey sorry 260 pounds best in the game somehow at being so small but like if they didn't run jason kelsey probably wouldn't be as effective as a center in the nfl but since he has the chance to jump on people and attack people that helps them whenever they're trying to get 350 pounds on him going this way because they're just hesitant for a second.

Defensive linemen are going to be naturally hesitant if there's a chance you're going to run the ball down their fucking throats. But those teams that just drop back and pass and pass and pass, you're basically letting that D-line, they say, pin their ears back, and it's like as soon as that ball moves, I'm trying to get to the quarterback as opposed to any fear at all of a helmet hitting them in the face because they know that the offense line is going back. So there is ways to strategize and help your offense align,

but it's going to show up when it shows up. Yeah, it is. It's going to show up when it shows up. I hope they get it fixed. Don't love that they were as worried as they were about it because whenever you hear the media talk about it, it's like, well, we're just media. We don't fucking know.

But I also appreciate the fact that the Jets let that out. Like, the Jets have to approve Hard Knocks, I do believe. Because remember, Florio was like, well, the Jets are going to approve something, and Aaron's not going to be happy. And there's going to be a fight. Florio was like, there's going to be a fight. Oh, my.

Quit. Set your calendar. Wednesday, August 16th. Yeah. Second episode, Jets are going to approve something. Aaron's not going to like it. Aaron's going to hate the Jets. That's what Florio was hypothesizing could potentially happen. The Jets let all that out. I appreciate the Jets doing that. Legit. I very much

appreciate them letting it. Because last night was the rawest episode I think that we've seen of hard knocks in a long time. Ohio is a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, COVID survivor, and the current president of Ohio, father of 10, A.J. Hawks. Yeah. A.J., how you doing, pal?

Oh, doing great. How are you guys doing? Hey, great. Fantastic. It's a beautiful Wednesday. We are just 22 days away from actual NFL football. That is right there. That is right fucking there.

Very close. Isn't it, AJ? Yeah, you can reach out and touch it, can't you? Almost. Kind of. Reaching out. Touching me. Touching me Touching you Sweet NFL

Yeah, I do feel like I can reach out and touch it. It feels good. You know what else is helping? Hard Knocks. Another great episode last night. We watched it this morning. I still believe they need to move that up like fucking six hours. Just put it out there and move it up.

Six hours at 10 o'clock at night. I know I sound like an old, but also I'm not the only one that is living life this way. Since COVID has changed the way people do stuff. There's a lot more stay-at-homes. I heard on the national news last night that a lot of these offices that are empty in cities, like I think San Francisco has like a 32% empty office rate. I think Denver has like a 20-some percent. New York has a high one as well.

They're flipping them all into like apartments. Oh, I like that. Smart. And they're setting them up for like work-from-home type apartments. You know, like kind of open, different areas, be able to do your stuff. I'm like, I'm happy that we're starting to adapt to what the world is as opposed to get pissed off about what the world is. Also, people going out earlier.

Yep. Going home earlier. That's right. I think bedtimes have moved up a bit. I think so. Than what it used to be, honestly. You think COVID affected that, you think? Yeah, I do.

I think that is going to be a lingering. No, I think there's a schedule. Nothing to do. Might as well go to sleep. I think there's like a schedule. Now, when football comes around, it's going to be a little bit different, but Hard Knocks is not enough in the middle of the summer. Okay?

You know what I mean? We need to move that thing up. But we watched it this morning. Great episode. Only one little feature thing that I guess is cute, and I appreciate that they did it, where in years past they did like 100 of these things. Aaron, being as open

as he has been in this hard knocks being interviewed in this hard knocks he goes up to uh former coach uh james camp james camp and he goes you fat piece of shit what are we and he's mic'd up through this whole thing and they put it out i'm like thankful they did yeah it felt like it was a real training camp last night hard knocks did you watch and what are your thoughts on it all and how aaron is handling it yeah i watched it this morning which i've done for the the first two episodes now i watched the following morning yeah that was one of my favorite parts watching him sneak up on on campy i if you knew like james campen in green bay with those whole like multiple generations of offensive players and linemen just the whole team like he's one of

those dudes like he is absolutely infamous. This was a very, very tame conversation they were having. They caught on camera. I love. Very tame. And they ended with, all right, I love you, man. All right, I love you too. I thought Campy was going to start crying.

That's why I love this dude. I listened to him. We were riding back from the Kentucky Derby, and I was in the car with a bunch of offensive linemen, and they called Campy. They didn't even play for Campy anymore. I believe he was coaching in Cleveland at this time. Like, and there's three or four of us

in there with him. I was one guy, three or four linemen. And Campy like started crying telling him how, hey, thanks so much for calling me guys. I appreciate it. Like it was unbelievable to see the connection these guys have. Well, I enjoy the fact that Aaron goes up to him, you fat piece of shit. I told you I was going to kick you in the nuts if you're above 269 pounds.

You remember that? He goes, I'm five over right now. He goes, what's wrong? Were you just watching this guy? So I guess what I would assume happens here, because I've been on the receiving end of this a couple times in a couple different conversations, Campy battles weight, I assume,

and everybody, Campy understands he needs to lose weight to maybe be a healthier human, and that's where he and Aaron talk shit to each other at this stage Of life? Yeah a little bit Campy had some health scares You know I don't know 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Years ago over time so he had Lost some weight I think maybe Aaron wants him to keep it off

That's the plan I guess I didn't know about the health scares though but that would make sense That Aaron's like hey pal I'm just saying I think for like anybody Especially he can't be playing the league 8, 9, pal. I don't know how serious. I'm just saying, like, I think for, like, anybody, especially he can't be playing the league eight, nine, ten years as an O-lineman, too. So, like, his body got beat up. Okay.

Well, I want to let everybody know that I'm appreciative that Hard Knocks let that out. I'm appreciative that the Jets let that out. And I'm appreciative that a – Authentic. Yeah, it's raw. It feels like it's the rawest season that we've seen yet. Sure.

You know, it feels like it's just a much – Yeah, their coaches feel like they're not really performing. They're just – they're being themselves, too, it feels like it's the rawest season that we've seen yet. Sure. You know, it feels like it's just a much – Yeah, their coaches feel like they're not really performing. They're just – they're being themselves too, it feels like. Okay, so to that point, there was a fight in one of the practices. And now this was Jets versus Jets practice. And before the practice starts, Sala actually says, I just want to see the guys, like, compete, you know, like want it. And it kind of goes to what he said to the offensive lineman

where it was like watching a film, it doesn't feel like you know, like, like want it. And it kind of goes to what he said to the offensive lineman, where it was like watching a film. It doesn't feel like you guys like really are straining is pretty much how he described it. So before the practice, he was like, I want to see these guys get after it. Like, I want to see these guys compete a fight happens. And then this quote happens immediately afterwards with his assistant Paisano was a Skarniecki. Skarniecki is like his assistant or or whatever listen to the quote that happens afterwards listen to what robert sala says it's quick but it's important

to what we're talking about right now run the clip you don't have to clear the benches every time you know what i'm saying there you do you do actually yeah yeah yeah you don't have to clear the benches every time no you do you do actually and then you follow that up with this clip that just was released on today it was colorado's, this morning on Twitter. On Colorado's Twitter about Coach Prime, who obviously, NFL Hall of Famer, so good at football in the NFL, was actually saying, we need a different wing for motherfuckers to play like me in the NFL. That's how good of a football player he is.

He has given back to the football culture his entire adulthood, whether it's through players, individual players, or coaching. Loves football. Listen to what he says following up with what Robert Sala just said to his team about a fight that happened in her squad here at training camp. Yeah! Come on! We're good, we're good. We're good, we good, we good, we good.

Little Rockstar 5 there. Yep, yep. Coming up here. Hey, hey, hey, hey. That shit tucked out, hey. Keep going up, man. Keep going up, man. I see two of y'all walking off over there and you got to keep teammate fight. What do they do that at? Nowhere. What do they do that nowhere not here in one fight we all fight you understand that I don't want to see y'all walking off with somebody's fight so I appreciate the fact that old cuz was like he wasn't I don't know who he was talking to in here.

Was not me. But you hear Salah talk about it. You hear Coach Prime talk about it, obviously. I've heard every human that's ever played in competitive football talk about it. I appreciate the fact that it feels like, AJ, that football is like recognizing that, yeah, it's a hard sport that involves some combat. And you've got to be fucking tough, and you can't be soft, and you can't be the guy who runs away from a fight that's happening. You have to be the guy that runs into a fight, even though seemingly a lot of members of society out there are like,

we should never do that type of things, and this type of stuff is a waste of energy. It's like, that is a team builder, and I appreciate the fact that we're back at the point of recognizing that, if that makes sense, AJ. I mean, it makes complete sense. You don't have to be that guy. You don't have to be the guy that goes in there and helps out your teammates

and helps people out and gets into fights, but you also can't really play football then on a team. They're not going to be accepted if you don't support your teammates. I'm not saying you've got to cheap shot people or fight people. You don't have to do any of that, but you do have to be there if one of your guys, someone on your team,

is in a melee or anything's happening. You don't have to go cheap shot and jack people and do stupid stuff, but you've got to go make sure your teammate is okay and get them out of there. It's a real thing. It's not even football. That's life. It's almost like, hey, this is like your family. This is my family.

We protect our family. Yeah, but there's some people that don't believe that anymore, like should never do anything physical. And it's like football is finally, it feels like, getting to a point again where it's like, no, we're fighting. Yeah, we got to fight. That's how it goes. You watch that Ravens fight yesterday, the first one with wide receivers.

Justin Tucker, greatest kicker of all time, going to go down, putting his helmet on from the side. Well, fuck. Here we go. Like, have to do it. It's's like you're looking for that stuff the the guy that prime was talking to in that huddle that motherfucker's not playing for a call that dude is joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who we apologize for just wasting a minute and a half of his life i do believe he was sitting there listening to that entire thing would love to hear his take on it

especially now that he has that glorious mustache on his upper lip ladies and gentlemen a man who could be having his feet up on an office desk in a fedex building somewhere not grinding his life away to win football games head coach of the atlanta falcons arty smith arty how you doing hey hell yeah, we are thankful that you joined us. We are massive fans of yours, and obviously we haven't got a chance to chat with you since that mustache has become a thing. Hey, how has that not been your look forever?

It looks right at home there. You look good. I know. I mean, it's a missed opportunity, but I'm trying to make up for it now. Okay, so is that real? Have you ever had a mustache before? Is this the first time you've got one? Yeah, I rocked one in college a few times, I think. I didn up for it now. Okay. So is that real? Have you ever had a mustache before? Is this the first time you've got one?

Yeah, I rocked one in college a few times, I think. I didn't keep it, though. I'm happy it's back. Do you feel like a better coach with that mustache or anything changed? Yeah, I feel like, you know, better at everything. I mean, it just – when you walk in places, I mean, it's just like the doors get open for you. You get – you know, they're going to come right to you at the bar. You get the first table.

It's something about it. I don't know. People view you different when you walk in there and you're rocking a stash. You're a little bit worried it's going to make you soft? You're a little bit worried about that? No. If anything, I think it gets your T-levels up. I think my T-levels are going up just looking at it.

So I couldn't even imagine it being. I'm mad because they wouldn't let me go with my cutoff. I forgot you're still rocking the tank. Yeah, had to do it, dude. I just, you know, why not, first of all? And then second of all, like such a suity profession. Like to do it all in a tank top is hilarious, don't you? I mean, that is, isn't that kind of a fucking hilarious thing? Yeah, it is hilarious don't you i mean that is isn't that

kind of a fucking hilarious thing no doubt i mean you talk about the stash i mean i think that's kind of a way of life too it is some people really hate mine though i don't know if anybody hates what you got going on i don't know how you could you heard us talk about that fighting thing there earlier and i don't want to necessarily put you in a compromising position of saying anything out of sorts but it does feel as if you are one of these guys you have beers with the boys in a locker room afterwards we just had prime a video of coach prime out there in Colorado basically telling one position group like hey if one of y'all like what are we doing out there feels like that's the culture you're trying to build if your team was to not show fight or get

into one of those would you be worried and do you think this is just how football is forever uh i mean depends on context i mean i agree i did you know here's you guys talking about it didn't you know you've got to defend yourself i mean it's a that part it's it's the whole part about if you're going out there in a practice i mean you can't start a melee in a game so it's a fine line as a coach you know with with the bad habits but i also understand if there's a fight happening and you got a couple guys that's looking at it and they're three people are attacking with your teammates that's a bad look as well also coach can you try to can't you i guess take it one step further if your team does get in a

fight and stay with another team line them back up and see who wins the next three reps and keep those same guys in. That's a very tough situation. You waste a lot of energy getting in a fight. Let's see how you guys respond and who wins now. It depends on the context of it. I mean, if you've got a guy out there, you know, first play, cheap shots another player in the back and then throws a punch,

we're going to take him out of practice. I mean, that's not what you want. But, you know, you want to see the guys, if there is something going back and forth, you know, who is going to bite back. But there's a fine line. You know, I take it case by case. I mean, we've been in those during practices.

We're not going to be the ones. We don't teach cheap shots and whatever. We try to be really physical. We try to do it the right way. But, you know, we've had situations where somebody's done it to us, and you want that mentality that you're going to protect your teammate. I love that you're saying, yeah, don't want the situations to happen. But if they do happen, hard not to coach up and evaluate

because it is happening right in front of our eyes. Don't want it, but it's here. We might as well use it. This past weekend, I watched a clip of McDaniel over there in Miami at the end of the game. I don't know if you caught a timeout or what was going on. I don't know if you've seen this clip, but he's literally pacing the sideline. His team only scored three points.

Obviously, there's a lot of conversation coming out of there, so he's got a million things going on. And he's trying to look across the field, I think, to get your attention to be like, hey, can you just let us out of this field? Like, off this thing, did you see that clip? And what are your thoughts on this preseason as a whole? What are you trying to get out of it? How do you view it for playing guys? Like, what is your views on preseason football for your team? I guess with a ton to prove still across the board. You got to get your team ready to go. There's three freezes in games, and I think it's hard to go from zero to 100.

We did it one way in 21. I didn't think it really helped us for different reasons, but I think guys need to play. Now, how much is, again, case by case, but there's nothing that replicates. I mean, if you don't play at all and then you get into week one and then all of a sudden you're playing to play 65 snaps that's hard it's hard to do so we've got three games and there's there's a lot of things going on there's certain guys we're trying to give the opportunity

to make a roster decision there's other guys we need to ramp up i mean i don't know i mean how'd you feel pat i mean if you didn't kick until week one but you're i mean you're a kind of ally but yeah so like aj's probably a good person to ask in Pac-Man. But like, for me, I needed the kick. I needed it. I like, in practice too, I didn't have enough confidence that I could like take a day off. And then on Sunday, I would be confident, if that makes sense.

I needed to work all the time, but I'm not running my head into anything or anything like that. You know, I'm getting flipped because the guy that's right wing for me has no idea what the fuck he's doing and he's going to be selling insurance in like a week but i at least need to see a bald turnover in a game aj did you like it i assume you're ohio fuck you didn't mind it yeah i think you need there's like a progression i think your body goes the body and brain of like you you kind of get calloused you get hardened up after six or seven days and you're you're back in the pads and feels good how about you coach off season two season how do you handle it are you you seem to be and we know you have uh marine dad oh yeah shout out to him shout

out to you too but shout out to him you know for serving the country and doing what he did with fedex amen hey thanks for that dude way. Way to go, Mr. Smith. I really appreciate him. You know what I mean? And then the Vegas thing. Is that real, right? That's real? He went to Vegas?

Real. What happened? Real. What happened? Just quickly? He didn't think they were going to be able to make the payment, and so he went out there and I think he played blackjack for 18 straight hours. Won over $30,000.

And then that- His whole thing was like, hey, look, if we didn't, I mean, nothing to lose, really. That was kind of the mentality. That's the way he told it to me. True story, though. And then saves FedEx. Yep. And then obviously now. Yeah, it worked out.

Just. FedEx is FedEx. Like a liar. Yeah. What a fucking dog, dude. What a dog. I mean, it runs in your. You need to get him on the show.

You need to get him on the show. I think at this point, you know, he. What a dog. I mean, it runs in your head. You need to get him on the show. You need to get him on the show. I think at this point, you know, he's just turned 79. You know, he's probably willing to do it. Okay. Well, obviously, yes. Yeah. We would enjoy that. I'll put him on the spot.

I'll put you on the spot there, too. But I'll get him on there. No, yeah, definitely. We're expecting your dad on the show now. So, hey, we got the guy that founded FedEx. Thanks for booking for our show, dude. This is awesome. No problem.

You went from, like, you know, CNBC, and now he goes on the Pat McAfee show. Same demographic. He'll do great. He'll do great. I can't wait. And I do love the fact that now, I mean, he can do whatever the fuck he wants, obviously.

Marine, founder of FedEx. But, like, publicly now, people are like, oh, this guy's going on. He's going on. Aren't you going on? This is awesome. Thank you for that, coach. Really, thank you for that. I'm putting him on the spot.

Yeah, hell yeah. I'm putting him on the spot. I'm going to drive the stock price down a little bit. Find out what happened. It might happen. Comes on the show. Yeah, he'll handle it. 79, still got the fastball.

We know that. He went to Vegas, bet for 18 hours. Saved the company. What? Guy's a fucking dog. How about it? Anyways, and also didn't let his kid just be, basically just sit around and take his money.

He needs you to go do an excruciatingly tough job. What is your season like, though, now that you're the head coach? I assume that you are not taking a lot of time away from football, and then you get into training camp. It's just like, thank God we're at training camp. Or, like, how did you handle this as the head coach going into this season? New quarterback, obviously, new things, same expectations. How was your off-season two training camp?

And then how does your life change from now till February when the Super Bowl happens? Yeah, I mean, you know how it is, Pat, AJ. You got that, there's that off time in the NFL from the end of mini camp to when the season starts. And I've got three young kids and you, and you try to, you know, be present, you get away a little bit to recharge for the season, but it's hard to turn off. So you just try to divvy up your day and chip away,

but you need to be there for your kids and certainly your wife too. So, but it's, it's hard as it gets closer to it. There's just so many things going on in your mind, but you know, I'm very fortunate, you know, that I've, I've got a great wife to do that because now it's, it's like you go into a, I think I read one time, it's like going into a submarine for six months. Like you may be out of it some days, but your, your mind, I mean, there's, there's constantly stuff going on. I mean, we're,

we're all kind of, I think anybody that plays or coaches this game, it is a little not very well adjusted. Yeah, I'd say. Tom Moore is still coaching. I love Tom Moore. I spent five weeks with Tom Moore in 2012. How'd that go? I assume it's the best. We play the Bucs. I can't wait.

I go out there early just to see Tom. But Tom hasn't aged in like 20 years. He's been 74 years old for in like 20 years. He's been 74 years old for the last 20 years. It really has been. He's hilarious. He's funny as hell, and every time I see him, and he does,

he's giving me a lot of really good advice about playing the long game and how to handle it. I promise you, I don't think he's aged in 20 years. He looks just like he did when he was calling plays with Peyton with his glasses down on his nose. I swear, if you put a clip from you, I don't think he's aged in 20 years. He looks just like he did when he was calling plays with Peyton with his glasses down on his nose. I swear, if you put a clip from 2003,

I bet it looks really similar to what he looks like right now. You popped yourself there with the play in the long. I enjoyed that. That was good. Hey, shout out to all the coaches committing their entire fucking lives so that we can get good football on Sundays, Monday, Thursday, Saturday, in America, Mexico, Canada, England, Germany. I think that's it. How do you feel about all of this?

Like, honestly, and this is, I guess this is away from Atlanta Falcons base, but you will have to handle it all at some point. The NFL is going to have games every night of the fucking week, I think, at some point. There's going to be an 18-game season around the corner. What are your thoughts on the state of football? Because it's the best show in town, in every town, the NFL, Coach. It's really the best thing anybody wants to watch live now.

So, I mean, look, if you don't want to do that, then don't sign the contract. You know, where the money's going in the game, it's growing. You know, I'm not one that when things change, you know, you may give your opinion, but once the rules are made and that's what it is, if you don't like it, then don't do it. I just think you waste your time. Like, we're going over to London again this year. We did it two years ago.

It was awesome. I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm still wondering what your record has to be to get knighted. If you play in London, I think the winning coach should be knighted. So I've got that. Yeah, so I'm going to ask for it to express. It didn't go over well last time we were there. Kind of looked at me.

That joke felt real flat. I'll bring it up again, though. Hey, the second time around. Yeah, that's right. I don't know. I'll try. It didn't land well. Arthur is a it up again, though. Hey, the second time around. Yeah, that's right. I'll try. It didn't land well. Arthur is a knight's name, too. King Arthur? Sir Arthur.

It's so obnoxious. Like, somebody puts you at a dinner, it has to say sir in front of it. Like, Sir Pat McAfee. You know how obnoxious that'd be? Yes, but I'm not going to win a game over there. You might be Sir Coach Arthur Smith. Yes. You know what I mean?

That might be your name soon. Yeah, well, I'm going to try. I don't know. I'm serious. Don't take me when I ask it again. That mustache will be a different, you know what I mean? I think the mustache will kind of put you over, especially New King. Yeah.

He's got these huge fingers. Sausages. You should compliment how big his fingers are when you're giving the ask with that mustache. It might expedite the whole thing, honestly. I'll have my ascot on and everything. Connor has a question for you about football as we get back here. Yeah, Coach, once again, fantastic mustache.

But looking around the league, especially the way yours is kind of formed, you obviously have Cordell Patterson, who's a stud, Algier, who's a stud, you got Bijan, also going to be a stud. There aren't that many teams left who are true ground and pound teams that can win games on the ground with their offensive

line, and you guys extended Chris Lindstrom, that was awesome, but how do you feel being one of those last few teams that really do just physically beat the other opponent into a pulp and just kind of really take advantage in those third and fourth quarters after you've already worn down the team? Well, I mean, we have a lot of different offensive weapons. You know, the mentality really, the entire team. I mean, we know Tyler and Bijan and CP.

Those guys are great players, and all three of them have their own running styles. But, you know, Bijan and CP are they're great all around football players. And we've got a lot of especially a lot of young skill guys. We need skill sets with Kyle and Drake and John, you know, Matt Collins. I mean, we've got a diverse group of offensive weapons. And so we can we can attack in a lot of different ways. It's not just traditional rushing attack. I mean, Des is another guy that can extend plays with his legs.

I think this, when you watch us, we've got a lot of guys that are going to be fun to watch. And the way we'll deploy them is going to be unique compared to everybody else. And, you know, I never wanted to be boring. I mean, that's the thing. We need to win games, but we've also got a lot of fun guys to watch play. And the offensive line as well. Those guys play with a certain mentality. Yeah, but you have good schemes on your run games.

And the only reason why we know that, not because of how good I kicked a ball. I know that. A.Q. Shipley, who does in the trenches for us, he breaks down run plays from across the NFL every single week. You guys were on there like the first four weeks because the way you were setting up leverage with guys that were moving and fakes, like it was, what A.Q. said is this is a brilliant concept and design. So I appreciate you talking about, you know, all the weapons you have.

Pretty big fucking brain behind that mustache too, pal. Pretty big brain behind that mustache. We got great players. We got good staff good staff all right AJ has a question for you coach I know you guys are playing the Bengals here in the preseason and I read something where you and you and Zach Thomas seem to kind of be on the same page Zach Taylor the head coach sorry Zach Thomas went to the hall of fame congrats again congrats Zach Thomas hey way to goats again love that guy amazing but uh you guys said you're not out to like go you i read something where you don't want to just go have some trick plays that like feed your highlight film or something you

want to execute and improve what does that mean exactly well i mean again everybody's got to make the best decisions for themselves but when i when i watch the preseason games sometimes and i and i look at, like, a double reverse pass or, you know, the tight end fall down, they may have called it a million different names, and it leaks out the back, and everybody's like, wow, you know, look at that pass for a touchdown.

You know, it's like, you know, we're going to execute our offense. We've got to get our team ready to play. So I'm not sitting there like I'm not going to be real satisfied with myself. It's like, oh, cool. We threw a double reverse screen and went for 75. Like, we're awesome. Like, we got to see if we can block and execute. And it's just a buildup, you know.

Like, we'll get into the schemes and designer stuff week one, but that doesn't impress me. Like, the double reverse in the preseason, and it's Eastern Rome. Throwing a flea flicker just to say, hey, wow, look at that stat line. That does nothing for me in the preseason. I love the fact that you're like, okay, we don't even know if we'll ever use this play. But also the defense is just trying to get 11 guys on the field right now. So you've got a tight end rolling around.

Who'd you beat? You beat nobody really with this entire thing. I love that that's your mindset. Feels like you're out of the 19... 30s? 40s? 40s? 70s?

70s? Is that the... It's kind of that era. That's where I feel like I fit. What type of music? It just depends. I mean, are you in the late 70s, or you're kind of going into that era of the Guns N' Roses phase? I mean, that's a wild time if you really look at the late 70s and the 80 kind of going with the like into that era of like the Guns N' Roses phase I mean that's a

wild time if you really look at the late 70s and the 80s and some of the bands and the movies that were made then Is that what created you? Probably I don't know what that's a good question you can ask my old man Pac-Man has a question for you coach

Hey coach the D.C. Coach Ron has been doing a good job. I watched y'all and broke y'all down this week. Can you tell us about the younger guys and how good of an addition have Jesse Bates been to you guys? Yeah, Jesse's been a great addition back there. I mean, I know you're down in Atlanta. I mean, I wish I had crossed paths. You would fit this defensive scheme pretty well.

Hey, he still got it. He ran a 4-5-1. No, in all seriousness, I mean, we like guys that play aggressive, that you guys want to attack. Like, we don't want to be passive. Safety. But Jesse's been a lot. That's been a big addition back there.

I think it's helped with Richie. You know how that chemistry is in the DB room. It's like any position group. I mean, you got to have the right guys, and it's got to fit, and we feel good about where the scheme's at and about who's back there as well. You going to go play safety? No, no, no.

Hey, Coach. Y'all look good, Coach. No deep balls. I love it. No deep balls. And with Jesse back there, you got the right guy back there. Hey, Pac-Man only played 14 years in the NFL. Only a

corner. Refused to go to safety. You just want to move in here maybe? Add another five years potentially to your career? Absolutely. Another punt return? That's also one of those punt returns. I know mentally I'm out of it.

No! Come on, you can get it back. You're soft? No, I'm soft. I understand. Me was pump returns. I know mentally I'm out of it. No. Come on. You can get it back. You're soft? No, I'm soft. Yeah, I understand. Me too, bro. This guy never getting soft. Do you think about that when you're in the middle of it?

Because we're all retired now, and we love our lives. The whole thought of not going to training camp, every year gets better. You know what I mean? We were at Tahoe out at that golf tournament. Aaron was four days away from going to training camp patch mahomes and kelsey i think we're like three days away and we're talking to these dudes and it's like oh i completely forgot about the potential feelings just like two days before you're going to a dorm room somewhere or you just fucking love football that always have been this way like we joke about you not choosing to just take your dad's success and just weaponize it for yourself to be a lazy fuck which a lot of people do you

just addicted to football love football why is why do you think football has become this for you full-time i mean it's you know you try to play as long as you could you know you can but uh i mean it's it's such a great game. I mean, it's so much different. I'm sure you guys don't miss that anxiousness or whatever those feelings were, like, damn, I'm getting ready to go away for a while. And the camp feeling, you know, it's obviously different in a coaching role. But the actual game, I mean, there's very few professions where you get the highs

and the lows that you do in coaching. And it kind of helps you stay young, too. Like every generation, I mean, you meet so many people, but there's just no other job like it. That feeling, that competition on Sunday when the players are out there and trying to build a good plan to help them and And that competitiveness, there's nothing like it. You've got to prove yourself. They keep a score. So that part, again, I don't know many other jobs that would be the same. Chuck Pagano said that those five minutes after the win in the locker room

before the media comes in, it's like those moments are impossible to attain anywhere else on earth pretty much. I don't know what it is for a coach, but obviously players who invest everything, like running out of the tunnel, I couldn't even fathom. I guess wrestling kind of does that for some guys whenever they get into it. And DJ Diesel, Shaq said he does those music fests

because it's a game seven feeling that he gets in front of all those people. People are chasing that type of dragon. Those five minutes after, when did you decide, you know what, we're boozing? You know what I mean? Hey, I'll have some drinks with the boys. Has that been the way you've always been? Like when you were at Tennessee as an assistant, did the boys say,

hey, coach, down a couple of Bruce, we win a game? How does that come together? Yeah, you know, I'm not going to go on the record about anything like that. I feel like this is going to, like, trap me, and somehow I'm going to get one of those league fines. So I'm going to be careful how I answer this question. That would happen last year. That was actually organic.

The O-line, they said if we win and we rush for over 100, can we go – you know, all these new stadiums now, they have all these field suites, and you look over there. I mean, it's like a – you know, if you're winning, it looks like a party over there. So they asked one of the bars that had all those taps over there, said if we win and rush for over 100, can we go over there, I mean, it's like a, you know, if you're winning, it looks like a party over there. So they asked one of the bars, they had all those taps right there, said if we win and rush for over 100, can we go over there? I said, sure, I'll find out.

What am I going to do? Tell me no. Like just say, I'll ask you. And they say yes or no. And they said we could do it. So I told McGarry and Lindstrom, I said, yeah, they said, we win and rush for over 100, that we can go back there. I think it was the Browns game. And, you know, they told us that they ran for over 100 that we can go back there. I think it was the Browns game.

They told us that they ran for over 100, and they just went straight back there. We were not in the locker room because you cannot have beers in the locker room, Pat. Of course. We were out of work, and we were outside the locker room. You're right. Everybody was over 21. You're right. We were not in the NFL locker room. We're good. Everybody was over 21. You're right. We were not in an NFL locker room.

And we're good. Got our bases covered. Genius. That email that was read the day after. That looks cute. Looked like a fun bonding experience. Might I remind you. Boom.

This is how this is going. I appreciate it. How's Desmond Ritter doing? How we doing? We feel good? He's good. You know, Des is made of the right stuff. I mean, he's a guy that I would think that the three of you guys

would like to be a teammate with. He does a good job. I mean, the guy won a lot of games at Cincinnati. He's wired the right way. And so we're excited. All right. Well, have a great day. Have a great training camp.

Are you guys doing any joint practices? We did one last week down in Miami. I don't think they're doing joint practices. They're just playing against the Bengals, I think. Yeah, we're not doing one with Cincinnati or Pittsburgh. We had ours last week in Miami, yeah. How was it? How does that go?

You guys have to negotiate everything, like every period, what the tempo is, who's going against all that. Is that a lot of bullshit or no? No, I mean, it's easy if you've got competent people on the other side, and we've done a lot of them, and you know, you talk as coaches and you're ops people, and when you're a visitor, say, hey, give me this, you know, your practice plan.

What do you want to do? Great. We'll be there. You know, we script it out, and they give us the personnel and D&D, and then we go from there. You love it? You love the joint practices because it's like a controlled preseason game is what everybody says. It is, but you've got to do it with the right the right people you're the best you've had some shitty ones it sounds like you had some good ones too

have had some good ones too felt like we have gotten better and not as good as that mustache though that thing is top notch we're keeping it all season? I think I meant too deep. I don't know how I'll get out of it. I don't know how I'll get out of it. You know, it's like you've gone undercover as a cop, and you're just too far gone now. That's how I feel. Donnie Brasco.

Yeah, Donnie Brasco. And then who was that other one, the one on Hell's Angels, the guy who got in there? Rusty Cole from True Detective. Bingo. That's a documentary. Yep. All right.

Appreciate you, Coach. Have a great day. sorry we wasted a lot of your life here but it's going to get better so there's no i learned a lot today i got better ladies and gentlemen head coach of the falcons he's awesome he's amazing man so dry what a legend he tried not to smile one time dude he popped himself a couple different times the long game yeah with uh tom moore the knighting yes yeah i'm gonna try that i'm gonna try that one again see how it goes try it last year just so boom think about how many people talk to him and think this guy hates me yeah oh yeah oh yeah and they think he's dead

serious all the time yeah those first couple he was giving us real coach answers. Yeah. And then all of a sudden it started slipping in. It's like, oh yeah, you're back. He can't help it. He couldn't help himself. Here's the driest

fucking guy in the NFL. I love that. Yes. Falcons are going to the Super Bowl. Is that your prediction? I'm probably

taking the Falcons. Seat geek ticker. Put it on a seat geek ticker. I'm taking them. I wish that guy, honestly, this is only the second time I felt this way where it's like, okay, after Belichick, I want that guy. Well, it seems like he is very similar.

Yes. Because they say the same stuff about Bill. Very dry, very funny. Great person. Charming. All these things. He is a guy, though, that if his team did not get into a fight, he would be worried. Yeah, for sure. Every coach in the nfl believes like they don't want you don't want anyone to get hurt you don't want stupid cheap

shots from behind but yeah something needs to go on all right let's talk about some stuff happening around the nfl marlon humphrey of the baltimore ravens who was placed in pac-man's top five corners in the entire nfl list just last week out for some time with a medical surgery taking place. An injury that may require a medical procedure and his status for the start of the season is now up in the air, says Mike Garofalo. Now, I don't know what that injury is. I don't think that news has been broken. I think Ravsheet's

Instagram story, he said it was his foot. I believe that's what he said. Okay, so what do you got down there? You got a planter, you got that Liz Frank. We hope it ain't that. No, yeah, that's not good. Liz Frank, that's what he said. Okay, so what do you got down there? You got planner. You got that Liz Frank. We hope it ain't that. No, yeah, that's not good. Liz Frank, because that's a season thing. Hopefully it's not everyone.

It wouldn't be that. If they said like there's possible. Even if it's spring. I spring my Liz Frank, and I was out for like six, seven weeks. So the Liz Frank is like a web that goes around something. It hurts. Basically, right? That's kind of how I've learned it And then, I know when you get it,

when you completely do it, though, then it, like, dislocates, I believe, and tears everything, and then you've got to find a way to put it back for surgery. When it's sprained, it's, like, twisted. Like, very, very painful, right? Yeah. I don't think I understand. Really, yeah, it's a nasty, nasty deal. So we hope that isn't it. If it was, they would tell us, I think,

because the projections would be, hey, this is going to be long-term. Harbaugh said not long-term. Okay, we were getting a heads up. So Marlon Humphrey, one of the best players the Baltimore Ravens have, is going in for a procedure. So we wish him Godspeed. Godspeed.

Good luck. Godspeed. There's a hold-in happening in Miami that I don't think any of us knew about. Christian Wilkins, who is a guy who did a great job on college games. Yes, he did. He does the splits. You remember de-tackling? He does splits when he was at Clemson.

He's also a menace on the football field. Yes, he is. He's not scared to grab and do the things that other people won't do to get under the skin or around the skin of the other team. All the time. Classic guy you want on your team, don't want to go against. That is him. He embraces it.

He loves it, I think, personally, and he's a great football player. He's been doing a hold-in down in Miami. I did not know that, AJ. Obviously, he's an incredible football player. He was a first-round pick. He's in his fifth year of his first contract. That means he picked up his fifth-year option. This is it for him. He's holding

in. I hadn't heard it. That's a pretty big deal for a team that I think a lot of people have some high expectations for, AJ. Yeah, and also, though, I am surprised we haven't heard more about this than at the bottom. It says McDaniel said they agree and are currently in negotiation. So, hey, he's holding in. We get it. He's that good. We're working on it. We'll get it done

soon. Is that what you're saying? That seems to be happening everywhere. San Francisco with Bosa, Ziegler, Brad. He's still holding out, though. on it. We'll get it done soon. Is that what you're saying? That seems to be happening everywhere. San Francisco with Bosa. Ziegler, Brad. He's still holding out though. Bosa's technically holding out. But it's like, hey, we know what it is. He'll be ready for game one. That's what Kyle Shanahan actually said. He hasn't done a training camp ever, so we're good. Are you confident it's going to get done?

Yeah, I'm confident it's going to get done. GM for the Las Vegas Raiders, Mr. Ziegler? Yeah, Dave Ziegler. Dave, there it is, Dave Ziegler. This guy who's friends with Josh McDaniels, ends up hiring Josh McDaniels, very active GM. I think a lot of people were excited about him being the GM. He came out and told a member of the crowd, he said,

Josh Jacobs is going to be here, don't worry about it. That's a big deal for the Josh Jacobs saga with the Raiders. Here's the video from just a few days ago. okay so sounds like what's going to happen is $12 million a year. Yeah. Okay, let's put another $3 million in incentives on that thing. Now we've got a $15 million deal. Make it a two-year deal, okay, or a three-year deal. Do what you've got to do, and you're done, right?

Doesn't that feel like we've got a deal done right there? Shout out to that. Give him some incentives, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will. 11, 12. Yeah, we can make that happen. All right, shout out to that guy. that his agent i don't know i think it was should be a bad play little public uh public in there and we'll make it happen i don't see a problem with that it's like okay so it feels like the josh jacobs deal is probably gonna get done

right that's what it feels like i mean it definitely seems like it's going well if not if it's not done soon these guys seem to be okay stay in the running back market chris ballard chatted with uh n on SiriusXM, a training camp practice just yesterday, about Jonathan Taylor and his status. Here's what Chris Ballard, the general manager of the Indianapolis Colts, had to say about Jonathan Taylor, currently very unhappy with being an Indianapolis Colt.

Look, I think the world of Jonathan. He's been a great Colt, been a great player for the Colt. Oh, and look, look, I think the world of Jonathan. He's been a great Colt, been a great player for the Colt. You know, unfortunately, last year he got hurt early in the season, was dinged all year, fought through it until he finally got to a point where he had to have the surgery. And now he's finishing his rehab process. And so hopefully as we move forward here we'll get him back, but we need to get him back but we

need to get him 100 healthy before we do anything okay 100 healthy has been said on both sides now obviously he was out of state allegedly getting his ankle worked on last week he's back in the building still demanding a trade he said look i'm a big fan of him at the beginning let me set the stage here i love this guy flat bill cap looks very cool great obviously sounds Obviously sounds cool. What did you hear there, if anything, AJ? I don't, I mean, I didn't hear much. It didn't make me feel that great about him being back in the building anytime soon and ready to play. Yeah. Yeah.

He said he's done great things for the Colt. He's played great for the Colt. He didn't say he will play great for the Colt later on. Yeah, I didn't like that it wasn't plural either. What'd you say? Is he all the way up? I don't know. Nobody really knows, I don't think. I think that's

the thing. We all assume as a fan of the team, of the Colt, that he's holding out right now using this ankle as a way to say, I'm not fucking doing it. Easy excuse. He's probably not 100, but if he had a deal, he'd probably be in practice.

He's probably like, okay, why would I go out there when I'm not 100%? This is potentially James Harden and Vegas Strip Club at 290 pounds, get me out of Houston. There you go. And then next day, Brooklyn, 155 pounds, back to being in remarkable shape. Exactly. That's what I think a lot of people are thinking Jonathan Taylor's doing. So to hear Chris Ballard be like, you've got to get him back to

100%. It's like, okay, well he's also worried about the injury, so I guess that legitimizes the injury a little bit more or no? I don't know. The injury part of it confuses the hell out of me. I really don't know. You want to get him healthy? Well, yeah, I don't know. He requested a trade, but

would that ever happen? Would they be able to trade him? Yeah, the question there should have been Jim Irsay said, P trade, but would that ever happen? Would they be able to trade him? Yeah, the question there should have been, Jim Irsay said, Pards, we ain't ever trading you. Now or in October. Has that changed at all with the dynamics and everything? Because there's one running back out there left, right? Kareem Hunt.

He's still out there. Dalvin Cook signs for eight. Yeah, eight. 8.6. Zeke signs for six. Boom. So you would assume Kareem Hunt will be for like 4. Yeah.

No offense, Kareem Hunt, but that's probably how it's going to go in this entire thing. Colts probably very interested in Kareem Hunt. Have to be. They may not be. Yeah, because this situation with – That's what Lomba said, right? Yeah. Somebody said it.

Or that the physical part of it might not have been – You would think because, I mean, the guy's a player. They show highlights of him. It's like, hey hey when kareem hunt's playing yeah yeah i think he's a big energy guy yeah i think he's big like team guy he's a big bruiser you i mean when he like when he gets rolling like good luck the defense it's tough to stop that dude anthony richardson kareem hunt in the backfield we also just signed uh is it not kenyan drake signed kenyan dra Drake as well. It's like, we got some real, not that we have Kareem Hunt,

but we put Kareem Hunt back there. Now, obviously not Dalvin Cook. No. Okay? Which would have been sweet. Yeah. Could have been the guy. They may have tried to get him.

Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like he was just Jets or Dolphins. I'm saying he, that's what I'm saying. Maybe we don't know what he what his favorite places were to go. Well, if he touched foot in Indianapolis, he'd say, I want to be here. You think? Tim McGraw, what concert did he go to? No, take him to the State Fair.

Look at Sango. Good point. Give him a cheese cone. You take him to that circle right there? State Fair is happening right now. You run him by there. Exactly. Walk him through.

Do the whole thing. 4-H clubs. Yeah, look at the big pig competition. The biggest pig. That's not a big pig. The biggest pig. Not a pig. Donkey show.

All of it. Do it all. There's no donkey show happening at the State Fair. No. You are a pig. What happens there? Let's get to a break. Let's get to a break.

Everything good. I can't believe you just said what you said. It's unbelievable. Can't have a real recruiting trip conversation. I didn't say anything bad about a state fair. You said donkey show. I said they would do something like that at the state fair. I don't know what happens at your donkey show.

I don't know what happens at yours. Donkeys trotting around and people just go look at them and watch them ride donkeys. Not ride them, but they lead them around with a little string. Is that right? I don't know what donkey shows you've been going through. Who's riding who here?

Nobody's riding anyone. You just said. That's not what you said. I didn't mean it. The donkeys, they're being led. Yeah. You've been led by what? Got it. You got a combo,? Led by what? Got it. You got a combo, dude? All right.

Oh, my arm's sore. Oh, man. Only arm day. Every day. Hacked. Oh, yes. This morning. I mean, your legs are genetically gifted.

Anyway, you don't need a lift leg. I've been doing some cardio. I've been doing some cardio every morning. Fasted cardio, they say. Climber? Climber? Elliptical. I look like that guy with the long hair and those infomercials.

Oh, nice. With Tony. Oh, yeah. Miola? No, yeah. It was back in the day. John Bay style. The first ever elliptical.

He used to be very big, and then he got jacked and shredded. Yeah. Tony Little. Tony Little. Tony Little. That's what I look like every morning. Mile and a half this morning. Tony Little. He looks great. very big and then he got jacked and shredded yeah pony tony little tony little tony little that's what i look like every morning mile and a half this morning tony little and he looks great i know he popped up on the throwback page and i was like you know what yeah if he had that elliptical he could lean backwards remember he can lean backwards lean

forwards he did it all i haven't thought of him in years. He was good. I've seen him on the internet, and I was like, that's what I'm doing. That's where I need to be. There you are. That's where I need to be. Look at that form. He is on point. Look at the calf full extension, too. A lot of people think that's all arms.

He's pushing into that. He's like 6'5", right? Yeah. You're a terrible person. You hear me? I'm serious. What are you talking about? Let's talk about people that aren't as tall, I guess.

Jet Passon told a 15-year-old that he was a dickhead last night. It's incredible. Love that. I did see that. You did? I did see that. Yeah, I did. Where was that being streamed?

John Boy. That's John Boy. The good baseball. Hey, I'm a big fan of the old John Boy crew. Yeah, they do awesome. They do very awesome. Where'd they go? Didn't someone pick them up? A network or platform? So I think they sold.

I think they did a 20% sale to round up money to build their own thing bigger, I think. And then, I think. I tried to follow along because I'm a fan of what they do. They did something like that. I know they did something. I remember, I don't know how many months ago. I believe they got a big DraftKings deal as well. Are they part of the DraftKings network? I think so. I don't know how many months ago. I believe they got a big DraftKings deal as well. Are they part of the DraftKings network?

I think so. I don't know if they are officially. Well, actually! They raised $5 million in funding last year. Do you know what percent? No. Well, congratulations to them. Not easy to get money. Actually, I think it was half a percent.

That's very good. Good pizzazz, Bruce. That's very, very good.'s very good. Good pizzazz, Bruce. That's very, very good. Yeah. It was good pizzazz, Bruce. It was a good well, actually. It was. Haven't had one of those in a long time. No, too long.

We are thinking about having an announcement coming tomorrow. Whoa. When we get to. That's coming out tomorrow. What is? The announcement of when we get to that's coming out tomorrow. What is? The announcement of when we're starting. The A is coming tomorrow? Yeah.

Because at one point it was TBD. Then it got deed. And now TBA tomorrow. Now it's getting aid. The deed and the aid are coming together. We were thinking about having which is always a good time. Now it's getting aid. Yeah. The deed and the aid are coming together. We were thinking about having, which is always a good time.

Always. When you try to determine something and then you are at the stage of announcing it, that's a good time. Yes. That means a decision has been made. An agreement was reached. And then bang, here we go. Let's A this thing. Yeah.

With that being said, whenever we are on there, TBA'd tomorrow, we're thinking about having like a corrections segment where Bruce would well actually the shit out of the whole show at the end because there's going to be people that get very mad at us on ESPN whenever we say things. He's a fact checker. He's a fact checker guy, right? Yeah. But him trying to correct us for whenever we say like

dude threw for like 700 yards yesterday and he comes on. Well, actually it was 527. It'd be like, okay. Fuck off. Okay. Because I think we should have that on the program. You know, to let people know we get it. We know what you're saying. Yep. Well, actually, but that's going to be a tough

job for Bruce. It is. He's going to get verbally assaulted. single time he comes onto the microphone. I think it'll go great. See, that's what I'm talking about. You got to step in, chin up. That's where somebody like me has to say, you know, I'll be the adult. I got to protect that guy. No, no, we'll be fine.

Yeah, you might have to because, boy, he's going to hear it from this side. Well, actually, The presidential debate last night Was won by So basically actually like DeSantis Knocked it out of the park last night So basically he's going to win Bruce wouldn't say that There's no chance Bruce would say that

But it's like that type of take And obviously not on politics but on sports That he would well actually the entire group And then he would get mothered until literally the show ended. And we're just, I'm just sending him out there for that. I don't know if I want that for the guy. No, it sounds like he wants that. Yeah, he should. Bruce doesn't think it's going to happen.

And that's what I'm saying. I think Bruce No, I mean, I got a good chin. He'll be fine. He does. Yeah, he does. Alright. All in favor of doing it, I guess say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Oh, I said aye., I guess say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Oh, I said aye.

I know, you were participating. Atta boy. Okay. Well, actually, Bruce is going to be a thing then. Okay. Oh, man. Congrats, Bruce. There you go, Brucey.

Tell you what, the lighting on the left side of the screen is phenomenal. It is. Now that we've got new cameras and stuff. It's kind of a shame. What happened? Well, I heard you look like shit compared to what the new lighting is on this. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, you're right.

You guys' new lighting is amazing and your cameras. A lot of people are talking. The cameras are the same. We actually had to just change the quality down to the frames per minute. We had to downgrade while upgrading something else to comply with their stuff. Of course. You know, because we built the studio last year. So we got all the stuff that is for sale, you know, now.

Futuristic. It's already vintage, huh? Yeah. Eight months later? No, our stuff's still good. But certainly stuff from 20 years ago. Right. Is.

Still. Or 10 years ago. Vastly different. so we've had to dial it back yeah but also ramp up another it's been like a math equation with the cameras i think they figured it out yeah ramp and dial we look good it's a good look you look very good over there so do you actually the first time i came up was confused as to why the lighting was the way it was, and it just looked perfect. That's why. Yeah, and like tone, put on tone.

It's like he has an actual spotlight on him. Yeah. It's tan. Oh, my God. And a three-quarter zip hoodie. My God. Is that a Fitbit? What is that?

It's a whoop. Whoop. Oh, it's a whoop. Yeah, my bad. You wear that whoop every day? Yeah. You're a hero. Your steps.

Track your sleep tone? It's only for sleep. Literally, it's only for sleep. How do you sleep? Does it tell you good? Yeah. You're a hero. Your steps. Track your sleep tone? It's only for sleep. Literally, it's only for sleep. How do you sleep? Does it tell you good? It was good for a little bit. It's been shit the last week. Uh-oh.

See, that kind of scared me, because what if it's wrong, and then I wake up, I look at it like, oh, it's going to be a shitty day. Yeah, I like to guess. Before I look at it, I was like, oh, I feel like shit. I can't let it control you. Yeah, but you should just always say, I slept good last night. I feel great. Boom, and then you're off and running.

You can do that? Yeah. It's true. That's what I do. Oh, yeah. That's actually why I can't do the whoop, because I didn't need this thing telling me any negativity. I don't need you telling me. That's a good point.

I didn't sleep well last night. I don't fucking know that. My brain is. Tell me every morning I slept great. I feel good. That's what I need. I thought so. Thank you.

My brain is way stronger than my inner thoughts. It knows. Respect to your brain. I can't convince stronger than my inner thoughts. It knows. Respect to your brain. I can't convince my brain to think something. It knows. But if the whoop said, oh, man. Jeez. But if the whoop said, you had a great bingo.

You would every day. Yeah, feel good. Feel even better. Yeah, I don't know why. That must be something. What's going on? Maybe allergies. I slept good last why. That must be something. What's going on? Maybe allergies. I slept good last night.

Whoop told me. This thing told me I slept more hours than I would have had. I think so, too. Interesting. What if we made something that literally just said, although you only slept for four hours, it's worth eight hours of sleep? Just to tell people, yeah, fucking right. That's not a bad idea.

Like to live from. Fully positive whoop. Yeah. All positivity all the time. Yeah, that's a bad idea like the lips fully positive whoop yeah all positivity all the time but it's trying to yeah i mean that's a good idea it was called whoop yeah yeah there you go a little bit more positive whoop plus what plus there it is just saying it wasn't due good morning you slept amazing you're great you got great hands yeah and you're quick so well well i wouldn't go that far about the hands after what happened before the show started. Punted a couple balls.

Yeah, he just caught me off guard. Oh. It's the light. You know, you got to go around and look at the lights first. No, those lights didn't get changed. I punted some balls to Pac-Man before the show went live. Still got it for one of them. I mean, look.

He dropped two. He did. He actually dropped two one of them. He dropped two. He did. He actually dropped two. Because he's used to catching them with nine guys about to kill him. At the end of this next hour, I'll punt four balls to pack. We have to successfully complete four of those. Catch them all.

One hand? Are you going to hold them all? Yeah, I have to. Yeah. Okay. On this winter Yeah. One hand? Yeah. Are you going to hold them all? Yeah, I have to. Yeah. Yeah. I can do that. Okay. Okay. That'll be the giveaway.

On this winner Wednesday, we will announce and find new winners if Pac-Man Jones is able to catch four straight punts. One hand. Boom. Easy. Yeah. Easy. Cake.

Cake. Artie Smith wanted to sign you to return punts right now. Yeah, I did. The smaller balls, too. Oh. The baby dude. Easy. I'm joining The smaller balls, too. Oh, easy. I'm joining us now as a man who in the FedEx Cup points standings was 112th just a few weeks back.

Then he wins the last tournament of the season before the playoffs. Then he wins the first tournament of the playoffs. Now he's sitting number four for the FedEx Cup points, looking to win it all this upcoming weekend. An absolute beauty. Ladies and gentlemen, Lucas Glover. Yeah! Thanks, Pat.

Thank you. Thanks for having me. Lucas, thank you for joining us. Honestly, whenever I say this, I don't want you to hold it against me. I'm an idiot. Okay? A very dumb one. I enjoy life.

I enjoy sports. I watch golf every single weekend as the time passes by, especially now that I have a young baby at home with a wife. There's a lot of sitting and watching. I've seen your name, obviously, a lot. Glover, Glover, Glover. In the scorecard and in the sheets and everything like that. But these past couple weeks getting to spend with you has been a real joy.

I want to let you know that. Learning about you and watching you golf has been a lot of fucking fun. I appreciate what you've done for us these last couple weekends, Lucas, honestly. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Now, with that being said, let's talk about being in Memphis in August, okay? 175 degrees, I assume, was the

actual temperature. I bet everybody is asking you about this because as we were watching at home, I personally run hot and am a sweater. So when I was watching you battle through that course on Sunday after a rain delay, putting your hands in the cooler, your pants

were treasonous. Absolute traitors to you. What was it like mentally? Was it as draining as it looked going, watching at home or what were you telling yourself throughout the entire day to keep going? Literally drink as much water as possible. And just try to keep the hands cool and dry. You know, I don't wear a glove.

So I had to work on that pretty hard. But, yeah, it was hot, as my pants proved to the whole world. Yeah. And obviously I appreciate that you didn't let that affect you, you know, because, like, if I wear, I would never wear this color ever, okay? With the way my ass sweats and the way Memphis is in the middle of August at 155% humidity, I assume you did not expect this to be possible either. But that is, like, the first indicator of, like, that guy's hot as fuck.

Yeah, he's sweating. That guy right there is hot as hell now they're talking about potentially guys wearing shorts because of it have you been asked about that did you realize that that was going to be a massive conversation on the internet as it's happening and how did the pants come to be and have they apologized to you the people that made the pants i think i do have some uh some uh more athletic wicking pants on the way yes but uh um if if that's what it takes to let us wear shorts in the summer on the pga tour i'll be happy to uh to take one for the team okay so you're in on this have you been asked oh yeah yeah 100 yeah i'm i'm way in yeah Yeah, for sure. Give it, you know, what,

let's say May 15th to September 15th. Give us the option. I love that. And is that a real movement, you think, right now? I don't know. We'll see. You know, they do the caddy bibs optional when it's a certain temperature, so maybe they'll do the swamp ass

optional for players. The Lucas Glover swamp ass rule. We'll all remember where we were when we saw this man battle the city of Memphis in its heat. I appreciate that you didn't let it bother you at all and just finished the round.

Did your thing. AJ has a question for you, Lucas. Lucas, I'm curious about just the rollercoaster ride that being on the PGA Tour must be. I know your path is you win the U.S. Open in 2009, and then it's just always grinding, always battling. Now what you have done, it's unbelievable how quickly it can turn in golf, I guess.

Is that something that always has to be on your mind? Like, hey, I'm one good day away from making things great? Yeah, yeah. I think, and ironically, I played with – ironically, you'd ask that question because I can give a story to give my answer here. But I played with 27-year-old Nick Hardy last week, the first two rounds. He was a great kid and he's got a bright future out here. And after Friday's round, he asked me, he goes, hey, man,

what's been your key to be out here, you know, your 20th season? I said, it's never as good as it seems and it's never as bad as it seems. He goes, well, can you expand on that? I said, bro, if you're playing bad, you're one shot away from turning it around. And if you're playing good, you're one shot away from potentially playing bad. It's just depending on how you react to it. And I do believe that. And I learned that at a pretty young age because some of my mentors kind of drilled that into me.

It's never that far off to be out here on the tour. You've got to be pretty good. So it's it's never that far from being good, but it can turn the other way, too. It's just a matter of how you react to it. So, AJ, that being said, yeah, it's been a it's been a grind for 10 years there's been some success there's been some failures but that's always been in my mind is just a little bit of momentum here a little bit of momentum there and then we can get this thing going keeping that optimism is a mental toughness that not a lot of people have you know like for instance I decided I'm never going back to that Tahoe golf tournament because you know how you said one good shot can change everything. I didn't have one.

I didn't have one. Not one. Four days. Not one. The golf gods did not say, yeah, you know what? You got it. This is the one. Not one time.

Let's get the bad or good one here. Not one time, Lucas. I'm telling you. AJ was there for all of it. Not one. I had five lip outs. Five. At least.

Actually. Chip in lip outs. Imagine one of it, not one. I had five lip outs. Five. At least. Actually. Chip in lip outs. Imagine one of those falls, Luffy. Oh, my God. Yeah, you'll play every day if one of those fall. Let's talk about one of those falling for you and then two of those falling for you on that final round. Are you keeping up with the score of everything that's happening behind you,

knowing that you're par, par, par, par, par, kind of grinding it out? You make that 30-footer, then you make that that you're par, par, par, par, par, kind of grinding it out. You make that 30-footer. Then you make that 20-footer. And they're like center cup, falling right, like perfect putts. Are those shots doing anything for your psyche on Sunday? Or how do you kind of battle through that round, knowing that I think McElroy was coming. Yep.

Cantley was coming. Fleetwood. Fleetwood was moving a little bit. Like, do you notice that? Do you keep up with all that? And when those putts fall, what does that do for you? Well, you make a 20-footer for par on 13, a 30-footer for bogey on 14. If there's such a thing as a good bogey, that was one of them.

But those were just momentum plays. And just keep the momentum and staying in the game. That's kind of what I had to do last week because I didn't really have it full swing last Saturday, Sunday, especially late Sunday. Chipping and putting kept me in it. So all your lip outs, I think the golf gods you spoke about, they gave me the benefit instead of you. So thanks, Pat. Hey, I would like to tell them right now, take them all from me.

Give them all this fucking guy. Because as I continue to learn your story we love you tone has a question actually right in line with that yeah as you've shot up the rankings on the fedex cup fedex cup points you've also shot up the the rider cup standings um i i assume that that's in the in the back of your mind and how's that process going has any of the captains reached out to you yet or talked to you about the Ryder Cup process? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, obviously jumped up there pretty high and always been a goal of mine. Ever since I turned pro, I think representing your country as an athlete is the highest honor and played on a couple of President's Cup teams as a pro and just had a ball.

and played on a couple of President's Cup teams as a pro and just had a ball. My relationship with Zach, the captain, Zach Johnson, predates obviously his captaincy, but we came out together on this tour in 2004. I've known him a long time. So, yeah, I've talked to him as a friend. And then he called the other day to speak a little bit about the Ryder Cup and that I'm on their radar.

So, very cool to hear from a close friend and then to get some encouragement from him. You're on the Ryder radar? Or what is that? Have you ever been on the Ryder radar before? The radar, yeah. I did get picked a couple times, but I got a couple weeks to make my case.

Let's go, fuck. Here we go. You know what I mean? Lucas, what's that conversation going? What kind of questions is he asking you? Like, hey, how good do you feel? And you have to just, no matter what, say, I feel as good as I've ever felt. I feel amazing.

I'm going to make every single putt. I love being on a team. Like, what do you say to him? America. I just basically, it was thank you for the call and then he said uh you know send you some info i said cool i'm in so i answered uh answered his questions and uh i was a lot uh it was a lot more uh of a friend conversation like i said we've been friends for 20 years how many more years you think you you'll be able to do this?

Man, that's the best news about my sport is you can play it a long, long time if your body holds up. So I think it just depends. My body feels good. I've been blessed with decent health. I've only had a couple minor injuries and always had a good back and decent wrists and the most important things for golf. I got a couple of knee surgeries under my belt, but nothing major. Hell, yeah.

I don't know how you walk that fucking course all the time, but I don't want to go back too far here. What Zach, he said he's going to send you – that's hotel reservation stuff? Yeah, exactly. Right? No, no, no. Yeah, that's what I heard. Flights, uniform, sizes.

New shoes. Sizes. I'm a 30 – you look like a 32 34 maybe 34 13 shoe probably get a flag as well those pants were like 38s by the end of it on sunday yeah i tell you what they were hanging there they were hanging honestly like you that is a nightmare i'm a big time sweater and i don't know if you're uh normally a sweater or if it's Memphis in August. Everybody's a sweater. But as soon as I turn it on on Sunday and I see what's going on,

I'm like, better man than me. I would be very uncomfortable in that situation. I would be potentially out of here. Yeah, I'm done. I'm actually out of here. But let's talk about golf again instead of your swamp ass. That might be a rule changer forever. Yeah, we'll see. Which is good.

They showed some putting stuff for you from the from before obviously i think it's your worst putting stroke of all time they showed it like a thousand times it was like a six inch putt that you kind of took that thing around i'm a horrendous putter you know what i mean i golfing gods once again just won't let one of them accidentally hit the fucking hole you know what i mean it just won't happen You change your putting style to that big, long one. And I know there's conversation about it and how many people use it. Why was the change made? And that thing is right in the middle of the blade, too. Is this thing designed for you?

And at what point did you decide to do this and make your putting a weapon as opposed to a potential weakness in your game? Yeah, yeah. I'd fought the yips pretty hard for about 10 years, like legitimate, like yips. As that stroke, they show over and over. That was a recurring theme for me and obviously brought me down. So I was kind of at the end of my rope with that stuff. So it was try this long one or left-handed honestly and those were my last two options and and this one this one worked uh it's it's freed up my freed up my stroke freed up my mind and uh it's kind of been the missing piece uh been working with it about three months now so been a been a nice uh nice fix to a long-lasting problem was it as soon as you did it, you were like, yeah, this is it?

It just, it just, it was honestly, just to be a little technical here. It basically was a whole new motor skill. So my brain had no scar tissue to, to, to, to, to have those yippy nervy strokes because it was so foreign and so different that it was, it was basically a way that different that it was, uh, it was basically a way that my brain was able to be rewired to kind of get over that hump. Yeah.

They talk about muscle memory and people are like, well, what's the actual realness of muscle memory? It's like, well, it sounds like as Lucas Glover, what muscle memory is for whatever reason, whenever he's doing this particular motion,

his thing's doing one thing, but then you get to a brand new muscle usage and it's like oh i can rebuild this um that had to be a freeing feeling very much um yeah to the point where it was fun to go practice fun to go putt fun to go and then you see some results from that it makes it more fun all right let's let's let's groove this in make some more and and that being a weakness for so long and all of a sudden turning into a strength, like I said, just makes it fun to go work on it, fun to try to even get better at.

And, you know, short game out here is your livelihood because when you don't hit it great, you've got to have something to keep you in there and stay consistent. And, you know, again, that putting thing was what was holding me back. And it feels great to, as you said, be an asset, be a weapon instead of something that's been dragging me down. Hell, yeah.

Well, enjoy it all. We've enjoyed watching you. We can't wait to see where you end up and what you end up doing. Sounds like you're on the Ryder Cup team. I mean, you just – I know you've got a press conference. Good luck this weekend. And thank you for everything.

Thank you, guys. Appreciate it, Pat. Thanks, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, where are you from again? Greenville, South Carolina. Are you a South Carolina fan? Go Cocks? Clemson. I'm not. Go Cocks. Ooh.

No Cocks. No Cocks. No Cocks. Not in this family. No way. We're Tigers around here. Alright, appreciate you. Ladies andcks. No cocks. Not in this family. Nope. Not in this family. No way. We're tigers around here. All right.

I appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Lucas Glover. Yeah, hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Lucas Glover. Thank you. That was a good convo.

Yeah. Yeah, he's the man. I feel like we just had a good golf conversation. I'm sure he ended with some guy from like pga.com, the guy I ended with the same kind of question. So, no cocks? For sure. For sure.

Not in this family. No? Okay. No cocks? For sure. For sure. Not in this family. No? Okay. No cocks. I was just reading about those. That was wild. He had panic attacks on the green. Dude, I could see how that would happen. Ten years. Ten years. The Navy seal fixed him. Do you see how miserable I am at Tahoe? I could see, and I do that, what, once a year? I've done it twice

in my life. Those greens are impossible. They are left-handed what if he would have gone left-handed that would be amazing he had a navy seal fix him was it really his face uh goggins yeah yeah dave goggins it was something it was something just reading about some navy seal who was a minor league baseball pitcher who had the same thing with pitching where just one day he couldn't throw the ball anymore. Yeah, AJ sent the post, I think, into the group about that. It was different. Oh, I've been

participating. Okay. Alright, let's get out of this conversation and we thank Lucas Glover so much. Everybody loves a comeback. Yeah, they do. Amen. Bro, could you imagine though? Maybe I need to go do that. New motorcycle.

Yeah, do that. Get that big old long putter. You'll look amazing. It looks really easy, too. It looks so easy. Did you see it? Yeah, he's got like a broom. It looks impossible.

It looks impossible. Maybe like swinging a baseball bat. Maybe you're a lefty putter. Yeah, you should. Could be. Maybe I need little baby hockey sticks. Yeah, they're happy. For real

I should be better at it than I am, honestly You're a good putter, what are you talking about? I'm not, I can get it The motherfuckers don't fall Okay, how many bogey saves did you have From like 10 to 20 feet? You had a lot Those were sick, that was day one

Yeah, that happened, that was cool I thought that was the new me It was not It did not happen ever again I thought that was the new me it was not it was not no it did not happen ever again but it was not i thought it was i thought it was the new me like this is a cool thing unfortunately golf doesn't have that it's day-to-day i feel like yeah it's stroke to stroke but those greens are so fast yeah you were putting well like it's not as if that course reflects everywhere when you go out and play just a regular course, it's much easier to putt. You putt unbelievable. Which is amazing to think about. Him having actual fear of that

every weekend. Yeah. Ten years is what he's doing. He probably feared ever having a putt that really meant something. Can you imagine him like, what happens if I'm actually in the lead of a tournament and it comes down to something? Best case scenario. I'm in the lead of a major. Let's say it's the Masters.

I'm in Augusta, Georgia. Hole 18. I have a one-stroke lead. This is what I want. This is my dream. I'm going to groove one out to the fairway. Obviously, I'm going to fucking nine iron in. Okay, now what? Well, got a two-putt. That's easy.

That's it. From 30 feet, two-putt. Then that first one, leave it at like 11 feet. Oh, no. Oh, buddy. Is that what I want? Is that what I want in my life? I think in a much smaller scale, this whole thing. But remember, a couple years after I retired,

I was thinking about going and kicking field goals for the Bears whenever they were doing that whole thing. Chuck Pagano was up there. A lot of my former coaches were up there. A lot of people that have seen me kick field goals for the Bears whenever they're doing that whole thing Chuck Pagano was up there a lot of my former coaches were up there a lot of people that have seen me kick field goals were like yeah this could be the right guy for the job also with the the situation going up there where it seemed like the kicking was cursed you know what I mean after the Robbie Gold situation and then as I was thinking about it all I like watched a moment happen I think it was a different sport I forget what it was I was watching and a guy was like I think it was a free throw and the guy was sitting there

and was like alright have to make this or the team loses you know like making one to win okay is obviously what everybody would love but the making one to tie or fucking lose where you're not even going to be remembered in this thing you know what I mean this is going to be

that's the one and I remember trying to put myself in that guy's position, and I was like, I don't want that right now. No way do I want to sign back up for the fucking Bears. Jogging out onto the field, you've got a 45-yarder in Chicago that's like 45 yards people make on a very regular basis, expected to make here. And then you've got like a fucking 22-mile-an-hour wind to the right. It's like.

Maybe on your back, though. Tough. Do I want to do that right now? 13, it's got no chance of winning anything. Would be sick. Obviously would be a sick moment to make. Yeah. Like that's a cool thing.

But like golf, it's this big on make or miss. Like doing something, and this is also comparing very different things but like wrestlemania for instance yeah you know like that's a moment where there is like hey have to deliver yeah there's a lot of people there's shit happening i do it but like it's a much i don't want to say it's it's like there's it's more fail safe you know yeah like kicking a field goal if you're off by like you miss by that by that much, that's a miss. Your life's over. You are ruined.

Ruined by everybody for it. And golf is the same fucking thing. If he's two inches away, tap in to win, and you rim that out, I mean, that could break you forever. Oh, yeah. It's like, that's a tough. The longer you go. Can you imagine in golf, the longer you go,

say it's the guys that are really good without winning a major or whatever. Can you imagine the longer you don't do that, the harder it gets too. That's what's so tough. Like Ricky Fowler. Exactly. When he made that putt and he was like. It was the whole world getting off of his shoulders. Going down too.

Talk about a roller coaster. You're Roy right now with majors. Yeah. It's this. He's another guy. He's that big. He's that big. He's shit big.

What did Tiger do? Well, he hit the spot that was that big the best. Every time. Just fucking better than everybody forever. That big. Right on the line. Hey, why is Justin Tucker better? Well, he hits the fucking, it's like that big.

The spot that he has to hit to make the ball go perfectly end over end? And it appears as if he's actually somehow has an opposable thumb on his foot and he grabs it and just throws it right where he fucking wants to go. Yeah, that's because he hits this spot that's this fucking big. It's incredible. I don't know how people do it. I mean, I guess I did it for a while,

but it was like I was nowhere near what they were with that whole thing just in the golf game i don't know how they get good after you're bad you know i mean i think i feel like most guys don't like we only hear about a couple guys brooks bounce back yeah right yep and ricky just did but his has kind of been the same thing like he's still he's never won a major you know it's like he won a tournament but like very rarely i feel like once guys do get the yips, they're done for. And they talk about getting older and you can play until you're 60 or whatever, to how long you asked them.

It's like, how do you keep the competitive stamina? Yeah, wanting to. Until you're 60. You know, AJ? Yeah. I don't know. I think that's what you heard Lucas say. Well, that's the great thing about this sport.

You can kind of play as long as you want if you hold up. I think that's a huge thing. Say you make it on the PGA Tour, live, whatever whatever when you're like 30 you're thinking all right i need to do this the rest of my life but you're you go into any other professional sport like if i get 10 years i'm very lucky so i think golf is cool or they probably think 50 years ahead i would i think it is very cool but lucas glover's been grinding yeah yeah remember pat perez the reason why i want to live or whatever he's like for 25 years i haven't been home okay i Pat Perez, the reason why I want to live or whatever, he's like, for 25 years I haven't been home. I've been on the road

for 25 years. That's what the golf is. Wednesday I'm doing a pro-am, so Tuesday I have to be in. I'm living in an Airbnb or a hotel that I'm paying for with my caddy. Then Thursday we're off, Friday we're off. If you get lucky enough to make the weekend, Saturday, Sunday, then restart that on Tuesday the next

week for nine months. Terrible. Pretty much like that. It's like, damn. We didn't – that whole swing to win thing. Yeah, full swing. Full swing. Full swing, yeah.

There it is. There it is. Really changes the perspective. Swing to win. That's a good name too. Swing to win. Maybe that's our golf gear name. Swing to win.

You got to swing to win. That's right. Yep. That's pretty golf gear name. You got to swing to win. That's right. That's pretty good. Yeah. You got to play to win. That's a lottery, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Did somebody win that? Oh, yes. Someone did. How much? I forgot. Was it Florida? Yeah. 1.5 billion or something?

Yeah. 1.3, 1.4. One person? One? Yeah. They're ending up with, yeah, 500. Was it a Florida man? They're taking the one-time payment.

Was it a Florida? I thought it was a Florida woman. Florida woman? I thought, yeah. Is that the same search results as a Florida man? Yeah, we actually saw one yesterday. A Florida woman? Yeah.

She killed her older roommate, her mother, and then poured a bunch of Diet Mountain Dew on her to cover all the evidence. Yeah, get rid of the DNA. Mountain Dew. Diet Dew. Didn't work. Oh, it didn't work? You gotta use regular Dew. But that's Florida. They probably thought it did. I just got

a correction. Those are two different incidents, but they both did happen. So you guys just combined a couple different things into one story there. No, that's exactly what happened. I was going to say. Who gave you that false information? Somebody well-actualated in my ear.

I just want to let you know, somebody well-actualated, and he's an Italian, and he's in the way back. He was wrong. Yeah, he was wrong. A thousand percent. Well, we can't be having this happen now, can we? Get on the mic. What happened? Yeah, exactly.

Nick, why don't we go ahead and settle this? So there was a Diet Mountain Dew poured over a body, and somebody got arrested for it. I'll find it. And it wasn't their mom or whatever the tone said? These are two different stories? No, that happened. Okay.

Yeah, that's exactly what we're talking about. So what are you saying? It was not the person who won the lottery. No, we're not saying that. Oh, sure, sure. Yeah, it makes sense. You thought we were saying the person that won the lottery poured Dime Mountain Dew after a murder?

Yeah. Talking about Florida man and woman. It's the similar thing. This show is the best, dude. Thank you, Nick. You're welcome, anytime. Thank you for that. Now, the person that won the lottery did not do the do-good.

I did not think that that was... That's on me. Would have been funny, though. Yeah. Got so pumped. Actually going to have to return all that money. Why is that? Well, fucking killed somebody.

Killed my elderly roommate. There was something that happened here in Indiana where a lady, she was either doing the investigating herself or hired a PI, went into a bar here in indianapolis her boyfriend was with another woman oh i think i saw this not a cheaters episode there was no cameras but there was surveillance footage yes from inside the bar so when a girlfriend walks in to bar knowing the boyfriend and side piece are in there walks in she in uh like uh she has like a hair wrap bonnet type thing on that's how you recognize her walking through the bar she starts throwing hands with side piece okay okay side piece and girlfriend start throwing

hands boyfriend in the middle classic cheaters episode. Come on! No, no, no. Come on! You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Come on! And then they all get kicked out. Sure. Makes sense.

From the bar. Okay. But the boyfriend and side piece, they did order food, and they did already pay. So they waited for their food. Okay. I like that. Okay? I don't know what they got.

Chicken tenders, maybe. Mott sticks. Ooh, good order. It was worth it, whatever it was So girlfriend already been kicked out Boyfriend, side piece come out Girlfriend runs over, boyfriend kills him, dead Wow Dead

Boyfriend, dead He's dead She drove his ass over Side piece alive? I don't know what happened. The only, the caption I read was, boyfriend dead after jaded girlfriend catches him cheating in bar or something. You got to keep your head on the floor.

Let's see what this is here. This seems like it's out of a reality show. Yeah, he got murdered there. So I think she's going to jail a long time. Yeah, probably. Okay. Hopefully he had his last meal first. Nope.

No, he took it on the go because they went on a meeting. I remember because they were fighting. Kicked his a long time. Yeah, probably. Hopefully he had his last meal first. Nope. No, he took it on the go because they went on a meeting, and I remember because they were fighting. Kicked his ass out. Girlfriend, though. He got out, paid to the food off the ground. As I say, hopefully someone did. Indianapolis woman on trial for murder, accused of tracking, cheating boyfriend to bar,

then running over with car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she had a GPS device on him. That's how she knew where he was. Yeah. And Castleton? Man.

Really? Probably not the first time she's tracked him down and been violent. You run someone over with your car, I mean, you're not... You may have done something similar before that. Might have had a bad day, though. Yeah, it feels like you have the ability to turn off any sort of...

That's true. Yeah, she might have had a lot going on. Guardian. Rational thought. She might have not had her favorite snack or something that day. Yeah, she had the Apple AirTag on him. I told you about them. On his street. They were. These things are a problem.

Well, yeah, if you're going to cheat on your girlfriend until he's pumped. That's right. I mean, it might be a little bit of a problem. What kind of car? What if it was his cousin? What if it wasn't a side piece? And on June 2nd, she had worked herself up into a tizzy and she needed to confront him.

And the woman, she knew he was with. Worked herself to a shoot. Yeah, she was in a tizzy, bro. She was not happy. The prosecutor said tizzy. That's nice. About sick of it. Anyways, hope everybody remains okay and doesn't get hit by any cars.

You know what I mean? Yeah, stay safe. Look ahead on both ways. That made me think that Cheaters show had a good run until the guy got stabbed on the boat, right? Yep. I think they brought it back. They did. I saw a preview just yesterday.

I don't know who's hosting it, but yeah. Yeah, when the wife and I were in Chicago, I was watching a television set at a different time than I would normally be watching it. And I saw a different host. A little bit more of an antagonizer, this host. This host is looking for the boat action. It's a female, right? Isn't it a female host? I think I saw. I don't... Yes.

The one I saw, she was from another show, but I don't know what show she was from. A reality show. I don't know, maybe they're doing... I think it was a dude when I watched it. But anyways, antagonizing. Oh, yeah. Like, really... Makes for good TV. Bam, that's what you did. I think it was a dude when I watched it. But anyways, antagonizing. Like really. Makes for good TV.

Bam, that's what you did. Then you start thinking about all those trash TV shows that were on back in the day. Rest in peace, Jerry Springer. What a time. Yeah, Steve Wilkos. Well, Steve Wilkos' show was actually, people think like Maury Povich's was the wildest. Sure, yeah.

You know, because like you are the father, you lie, that whole thing. I think he's selling like like, father things now. Oh. Tests. DNA tests. Oh, like paternity tests and stuff like that? Or lie detector tests.

Something like that. He's into that game now. That's smart because that's what he was alongside. Jerry Springer, obviously awesome. Right. Steve Wilkos, his show was real serious. Oh, yeah. Dark.

Do you remember? Super. Like, you're currently on trial right now, right, for potentially sexually assaulting your stepdaughter, right? And this guy's just sitting on a chair out there in front of a crowd. And he's like, isn't that what you're doing? And Steve Wilkos would go up and almost fight him. Oh, yeah. Damn.

And then he would take a lie detector test. He would take a lie detector test. And then he'd come back out. He'd be sitting on an isolated chair. You lied. You did do it. So we just found out this guy is one of the worst humans of all time. And then there's like a fight immediately afterwards.

And then they take that chair out. And then let's bring another one in. And it's just like a nonstop. I'm like, damn. Steve Wilkos is like the most serious criminals here. That was a wild time in TV. I kind of miss it. He was a real cop, though.

Steve was a real cop, though, before he worked security for Jerry. Jerry was way more wild than Maury Povich. I think Jerry's a Chicago legend, too. Jerry's was more like fighting and fake, probably a little set up thing. Oh! He's the mayor of Cincinnati, I can say it.

I'm from Ohio. Jerry was really cool. Jerry was a work. It was, brother. A good one, though. Yeah, for sure. I love the creativity. I'm from Ohio. Jerry was really cool. Jerry was a work. It was, brother. A good one, though. Yeah, for sure. I love the creativity. Greatest work ever. Entertainment TV.

I love everything about it. The Iron Sheik was actually on. Yeah. There was a lady messing around on her husband with the Iron Sheik. Yeah, right. Oh, no. Yeah, the booking was incredible there. So Jerry, obviously wild, okay?

Yeah. Maury Povich, though. There were some moments. They went in. Oh, yeah wild, okay? Yeah. Maury Povich, though. There were some moments out of it. He went in. Oh, yeah. The celebrations. Yeah. Oh, my God.

The devastation. Oh, Maury had it all. He did. Maury, and he just always had his fucking legs crossed. Yep. Casual, how you doing? Keep it moving. He did a little scared straight, too, didn't he?

Maury Povich had like a big, like a sergeant come in, yell in somebody's face yeah put him in jail yeah to like the the they'd bring in like four different teens who like were just acting out and doing crazy shit and yeah they did their their own little scared straight with all them oh yeah then there'll be like a tearjerker dm because the drill sergeant would have like feelings for one of these kids yeah i used to be like you then you cry yep then more he'd make you laugh yeah when that lady didn't know which one of the 75 dudes it could have been it could have been the phone exactly i've narrowed down to 75 yeah it's like lady how many vaginas you got

oh yeah how do you remember that lady had 70s yes that was my era like that was my era when those shows were big but is there anything left like that is there any shows like that i don't think so nick nick said chris hansen's back kind of not chris hansen himself but i don't just like similar show is it youtube no i think chris hansen himself is doing it on youtube or something really he's doing cameos i know that yeah chris hansen's doing it somewhere else i got a cameo from chris hansen for my birthday from the boys. Nice. It was pretty good to see him.

It was pretty good to see him in there. And obviously, he had that same voice that ruined a lot of people's lives. But, like, yeah, I think it's on Netflix. A lot of terrible people's lives. Why don't you have a seat over here? The ones on Netflix that you watch, right? Isn't it? I want to say.

Deep sigh. That means, hey, I'm thinking. It's not Netflix. It might be Hulu. Might be Mox. I can't remember. It's called Underage Undercover. They're doing it. They're setting these... How are these people these people? Scum of the earth.

Good question. Scumbags. There seems to be no shortage of them either. They have no problem finding these people. That's what I'm saying. The Chris Hansen episode. That's the scary part. How many seasons? They had like a hundred seasons. Scumbags. There seems to be no shortage of them either. They have no problem finding these people. That's what I'm saying. The Chris Hansen episode. That's the scary part. How many seasons? They had like 100 seasons. Yeah, nuts.

How was this? Four or five guys an episode. What's that? What? Who? I said thanks a lot, Subway. Yeah. He was right here.

He's getting out soon. No. Yeah, I bet you'll be happier about that too. He is. Like 2025 or something, I feel. I don't know how. You have it circled on your calendar. Yeah, you're going to be waiting for him. Oh, It is like 2025 or something, I feel. I don't know how. You have it circled on your calendar. Yeah, you're going to be waiting for it.

Oh, no, I'm not a fan of Jared Fogle. Not at all. Absolutely not. But I know you guys hung out with him in a nightclub one time, so I want to make you aware that he will be out. Not you guys. Not you guys. He is from Indiana, okay?

He is. And he was very popular. Mm-hmm. At the same time that I had money for the first time as well. So we did run into each other a couple of different times. One time, which AJ is referring to, he was in a bottle service section next to me. Yeah.

And Jerry Fogle. Gary from Teen Mom. Gary from Teen Mom was there. Yeah, it's a real deal. Gary Fogle, Gary from Teen Mom, and then we were the next thing over. Indiana was really, really going then. I mean, that was a real time. Crazy run.

Who's who? Nope. That's a long sentence to say, but I do appreciate the information. I have no idea what he just said. Okay. I think there's a new chef

at Lucas Oil Stadium. A new executive chef for Lucas Oil Stadium has prepared a menu for fans at Indianapolis Colts game. The team and its hospitality vendor said on Monday, okay, this is good news. So the Colts have notoriously been known to have terrible food in their stadium. Every media member from other places says Lucas Oil Stadium, real nice. I think they gave us like nachos with cold cheese. Cold cheese, yeah. I think and hot us nachos with cold cheese. Cold cheese, yeah. I think, and hot dogs in there.

So whenever we got a suite last year, we were excited to experience the whole thing. I think there was a lot of question marks. Now they get a new chef in there. This is big news, Zito. Thank you for this. Colt's making good moves. Huh? This is good moves.

That's awesome. But it's usually a company like Aramark or whatever has the whole place. Yeah. Yeah, and I'll tell you what. Whatever company it was. That pizza was delicious, though has the whole place. Yeah. Yeah, and I'll tell you what. Whatever company it was. That pizza was delicious, though. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Just bring your own. Stuff some like Chipotle burritos. The brisket and the steak. Did you say stuff Chipotle burritos? Yeah, like I used to do. Like going to movies. Used to bring burritos in with us to the movie theater. I think burritos is an aggressive thing to take into the movie theater.

But I appreciate it. In the winter, you wear your coat and, you know, put it pocket have you seen what tone digs got tone digs got four pockets right now basically let me see first off what you're doing is legal brother no what's that making you stand up no no sneaking a burrito oh it's not illegal no i pay to get into the movie oh you did me too hey listen you're right yeah there was some real the burrito i don't think i ever let's not work hard though i don't think anybody attempted the burrito you're killing the theater yeah you are stealing money out of those writers no i buy four extra tickets every time i bring a burrito i buy four extra seats just to make up for it so why are you hiding the burrito

that's a lie i don't hide it i don't hide it at all i just want to eat the burrito i just want to eat it are they i mean this was college, really. Is the writers thing happening? What's going on there? They're striking strong. Okay, so is there an end in sight? I don't think so, no. Can't they just say, because this is going to be a deal with a bunch of studios, so there's a lot of different people that they're going to have to negotiate with.

Can't they just have a different contract that they want to pitch out to the studios say like hey if you want us to do this this is what it's going to take and this is the contract we're all signing i would assume so yeah hmm has that happened no no no no no and we're a ways away what's that mean there's no end in sight are they talking are they even talking so what does this mean like let's say there's pick end in sight. Are they talk? Are they even talking? So what does this mean? Like, let's say there's picketing doomsday. This happens forever. We never a movie again.

Is that what they're saying? We'll just be watching British movies. No. So independent movies. It's all you're going to see. Yeah. Well, independent movies. Are they striking with these people?

How long until somebody says, like, I'll just. Okay, we'll make independent movies over here. Kind kind of starting to happen already a little bit do not anything non-sag right you just can't have sagging ball i mean animation they could do anything with animation still i feel like no because the people who are voicing the characters are still oh yeah you'd have to get different actors and people writing the movie so we're we're assuming that their unions are going to stay firm together strong together i would imagine it'll probably end within the next couple months. Once football starts and this isn't as much on the periphery as it is right now where there's kind of nothing else going on,

so people want to go see movies and TV and stuff like that, but once football starts and that kind of— and granted, everyone isn't watching football, but everyone kind of is watching football, so I have a feeling that they might, you know, kind of pull back a little bit and realize, like, okay, we need to make some concessions. I don't do a lot of entertainment stuff.

Everybody knows that. Don't watch a lot of movies. Don't watch a lot of shows. I watch football and wrestling. Okay, I apologize. But I do love a good scripted flick. Oh, yeah. I like a good talent.

You know what I mean? Just watch Hijack. Loved everything about it. I don't, so I don't know necessarily. I don't think the humans are on the writer's side, though. Is that wrong or am I right in that? Like the general public? Yeah, it doesn't feel like there's a big, like,

groundswell, right? No, I don't think so. I think it's just, like, the writers are obviously all on the writer's side, and then all the actors came in and supported them because they were like, yeah, without the writers, we don't have anything to actually do. But actually, now that the writers are bringing it up, we want to get fucking paid better as well. So then they kind of went on strike.

The big thing is they're just saying the studios are making so much money, the studio heads are making so much money, and a lot of these people, they don't even have livable wages. They just want a little bit to wet their beaks, and they're not getting it. They want insurance, because you have to make over $27,000 to get insured from SAG,

I believe. I've seen the actors say 90% of people in SAG make under $27,000 a year. The majority of people don't make enough to even get covered. Well, that is also part of the problem. I think like it's very very easy to get your sag card so like a lot of these people like there are a bunch of people who have these who it's like well yeah you've acted in things before but like you can't like you're not you don't you're not an actor as like your full-time job because you don't you make six thousand dollars a year like it's it

doesn't work like that but just like like when the NFL is negotiating CBA, the union is representing all 53 players on the roster. And then those people outnumber the people that are at the top. So then the negotiations seemingly last a lot longer because there's a lot to figure out. I hope they figure it out. I hope everybody gets paid. AI is also a massive focal point as well.

What are they saying? It exists. We don't like it. Is that what they're saying? Yeah, they're kind of taking our job. They want to make sure that AI is not just going to start fucking writing every goddamn movie out there. Well, I heard AI is writing books under actual authors' names. Oh, yeah. Really? Wait until they start

using the music. Like if AI writes your... Like say I'm in college and I have to write a 10 page paper AI will do it right you just type it in but will they know can they tell yeah you just gotta kind of edit it up but yeah there have been papers submitted

you would probably the teacher would probably just go search for it right on the AI you gotta change it up a good bit you get a good outline though yeah get your flavor though. Yeah, get your flavor in there. Yeah, exactly. Get your flavor in there. You should be writing your own papers. You should have that.

Somebody submitted one with the beginning of the chat GPT that actually says, because I am an AI, I haven't actually read this entire book, and they forgot to delete that. Hey, that's going to get you whenever you're real late. Copy, paste. Print. Copy and paste. Signed in. Sometimes you get busy my birthday

was on finals week that was tough brutal that was tough there's some papers doing some things it's like those were some long nights over there in morgantown they're all moved back in do you see that morgantown's back to be impact and uh the old classic meme is it the internet where all these freshmen that are coming into Morgantown are like, Morgantown has no idea what's about to happen to it with me coming to town. It's like Morgantown is undefeated. Morgantown.

That's like the classic Vegas. Yeah, bingo. Morgantown is ready for everybody that's coming in there. Just like that Arizona State Athletic Director, that scumbag who said he'll never go to Morgantown. What? You're missing out, bud. Because West Virginia, what are we doing this year, Pat?

We're going to win. And then? Win. And then? Win. And then? Win. That's what's happening, AJ.

Let's go. That's what's happening. Can't wait. You're taking the over? For what? Five and a half. Five and a half wins for West Virginia. You knew my question, too.

Don't try to buy time. Yes. Pac-Man is in for that. Okay. And you. Nice. What about you? No, you don't fit.

If I was on West Virginia's roster right now, I would not feel good that you are not confident in the squad. What? I've gone to the top. What's the coach's name? The coach's name again? Highest. Coach.

Neil Brown. Neil Brown. I hope we didn't show this to the team and say, hey, boys, you know our guy who really pubs us hard, he's doubting you. Maybe you're going to put the chip on their shoulder that gets them over the top. Yeah. Yeah, the chip on the shoulder is of confidence, pal. Going into Happy Valley running wild.

What are we even talking about in there? I don't know if I want to bet on these kids. Okay? So you're not taking the over? I just don't know. I would like to just enjoy the ride with them. I'm going to be so emotionally invested. I don't necessarily need to be actually gambling invested.

Yes, they're going to win six games and go to a bowl game, obviously. They're West Virginia. That is what West Virginia is at least going to do. And have you seen any of the clips that have come out of practice? The boys are buzzing. Neil Brown's balling. And that's Garrett Green with the good hair. Okay. Is that new? Yeah. He's changed his look.

Yeah, you're damn right. It's a new year, bro. Goatee. We're at different altitudes. Nice slow-mo. So over five and a half. Yeah. Oh. PBU. I did see a nice PBU. You see the break on the ball there? And now he's paying off. Look how fast that guy is going.

He's paid. He's paid. Oh. Oh. Oh, we're just dropping balls in buckets. Oh, PBU. Yeah, it's good defense. That's against our fourth stringer.

There's Garrett Green running wild, brother. Sweet flow out the back, too. So you'd suggest the good people watching to put their money on West Virginia over five and a half. Yes. All right. Let's get to a. That's what. All right, let's get to a – That's what you would suggest.

Let's get to today's giveaway. Just wondering. I don't think other people should do what I'm doing. Sure. I am emotionally attached. Yes. And you are taking the over. Yes.

So what does that mean? Because of that, you think they're going to win 12 games, and you're just like, hey, guys, I want you to – your expectations to be – I'm emotionally invested in the squad. Yes, we're going to win 12 games, and you're just like, hey, guys, I want your expectations to be normal. I'm emotionally invested in this squad. Yes, we're going to the college football playoff. That is how I feel. Cool.

Before it even expands, right? So when it's just four teams. Hard to get in, that's the way we like it. Okay? Big 12, power conference. Welcome to it. You know what I mean? Everybody's saying the big this, the big that.

West Virginia is still in the big whatever. Yeah. And will be forever. People are, the big that. West Virginia is still in the big whatever. Yeah. And will be forever. People are excited to come into the West Virginia conference. Texas, Oklahoma, even who cares? Is West Virginia still there? They are. Sweet.

Hell yeah. That's what's happening. We're winning the Big 12. They're winning the college football playoff. They're going to win the national championship. That's what this West Virginia team is doing. Now, that's a tough schedule. Tough schedule. Don't know a lot of guys on the team. Really tough schedule. this West Virginia team is doing. Now, that's a tough schedule. Tough schedule.

Don't know a lot of guys on the team. Only human I know is Garrett Green. That's the quarterback. And that's the only reason why I know him. Because he's Garrett Green. Seems like a great guy. I don't know anybody else on the team. Okay, that's fine. We got a running back that I know we paid. He's good. There's a wide receiver that I think we paid. I think he's good. There's a Morgantown

native that caught that ball. I don't know his name. He's good, though, fast. He's going to be scrappy. All right. Did you have any guys from Morgantown around that, like within an hour or two of the school? Well, Pittsburgh.

We got Pittsburgh. You're right. Pittsburgh's like hour and a half. My house, East Hills of Pittsburgh to Morgantown, which is through Pittsburgh down here like an hour and a half. So, pretty close. That's nothing. Easy, easy. Yeah, pretty close. A lot of Pittsburgh stuff. Alright, let's kick some balls. You gotta catch them. Here we go, Pack. Let's go, Pack.

Come on, buddy. Don't drop them like this morning. That's right. Alright, so he's gotta catch four of these, right? Yeah, four of them. Or five, maybe. Nah, because this ball is super flat. So I don't want to put it in the spot. You've got to keep it pretty low.

It's not your number. It's not your number. You got one-handed? Yeah, let's go. All right. If he catches four of these things one-handed, We'll give four balls. How about five people

per ball? 20 people. Okay. 20 people $20. Boom. $20. Or 20 people one of those baby Dukes.

I don't know if we have the... I don't know if we have 20 of these. Okay. Logistics. Supply chain. Yeah, supply chain. Rubber balls, little Baby Dukes. 20 people, $500 if Pac-Man can catch four of these.

Sounds good. Good luck, Pac-Man. Oh, that's an easy one right off the bat. Boom! This isn't even a challenge. Boom! He's got to hold them, dude. Uh-Man. Oh, that's an easy one right off the bat. This isn't even a challenge. He's going to hold him, dude. Here we go. Last one.

Here you go, Pac. And what do we say, Pac? Come on, Pac. Oh, he did a little 360. Yeah! Now Bill's turn. Good work, Pac. Now Bill's turn Bill Now Bill's turn

Mitt Good job Where's Bill Make him run Bill can run Bill does this We'll add an extra five Come on Bill 500 grand Make him run. Bill can run. You can punt all of them. Yeah. Who does this? We'll add an extra five.

Okay. Okay. Come on, Bill. Come on, Bill. 500 grand? Just an extra five people. Okay. This is big motor.

He can do this with his eyes. Come on, Bill. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Come on, Bill. Come on, Bill. Come on, Bill. Uh-oh.

Bill. Oh. No. But I'm used to. And you. No. Two is easy. But. Oh. No. Let him use two. Can you use two? No, two is easy. Let him use two. It's a baby Duke.

I feel like he's putting it in his chest. A little high. Come on, motor. Come on, motor. You're missing that one. All right. All right. All right.

No work, Bill. Sorry about that, Bill. It's not easy as it looks, Bill. It's not about putting you back there to catch a pump We're just trying to hand the ball off to Bill You know Forrest Gump where they catch a kickoff They run it over, they give it to Forrest Gump And then he just runs it

That's what we're doing for Bill 20 people, $500, all you gotta do is retweet this tweet And say something nice to somebody And also put in there, however we can pay you The most efficiently and quickly We appreciate you all so much Hell of a show today, boys Big thanks to

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