The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 956 - Adam Schefter, "Suga" Sean O'Malley, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

On today's show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about tonight's preseason game between the Browns and the Eagles and the start of the 2nd week of the preseason, plus everything else happening around the NFL and the sports world. Joining the progrum to chat about the rumors that the Jets are interested in going after David Bakhtiari, what's going on in the Jonathan Taylor situation, Zeke finding a new home in New England and what his role will be, where Kareem Hunt might end up, and much more is ESPN NFL Senior Insider, Adam Schefter (20:51-55:21). Later, joining the progrum ahead of his bantamweight title fight at UFC 292 is Suga Sean O'Malley, to chat about how his weight cut is going so far, what kind of challenges Aljamain Sterling presents, potential future challengers, his thoughts on the influencer boxing craze and if that is something he'd consider in the future, the importance of getting pay-per-view points, and much more (2:10:10-2:28:39). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our Humble Abode, the Thunderdome. On this Thursday, there's preseason game tonight. August 17, 2023. This sports program starts now. Football! It's happening tonight. Week two of our preseason games begins this evening as the Browns will travel to Philadelphia to take on the Super Bowl contending Philadelphia Eagles. Now, they did have a joint practice together this week, so we're assuming that Jalen Hurts and the boys will not be playing

for the Philadelphia Eagles tonight because they've already got all the reps against the ones in practice. It's a little bit more controlled. And if there's a fight, there's no penalties. That's right. Now, the Browns got this guy named DTR playing. Now, you might know of DTR at a high school in Las Vegas where he's like the most electrifying player in the country.

Then he goes to UCLA. And although UCLA Bruins, you know, kind of out of the conversation of relevance for a long time, this dude has been a lightning rod on a football field for a long time. And for whatever reason, this preseason football has come to him very easily. He looks better than he's looked at any stage of football. He's throwing it. He's moving. Looks confident. His dap up with other players seems to be everybody respects him. DTR starting for the Browns tonight.

They're getting three and a half points on the road. No offense to Sirianni, who I love. Let me make my first official bet of the year. Okay. I like DTR and the Browns plus three and a half tonight, taking on probably Marcus Mariota, who's starting for the Eagles. And although he's a vet, and veterans have done very well this preseason. Look at Case Keenum in the second half

for the Buffalo Beatles, I do believe. He was slinging it. No, no. Texans. Texans. He was absolutely slinging it in there. You think to yourself, that's a veteran playing against guys that have never played in the NFL. Not Case Keenum's fault, but also, we need to remember that veterans probably can do in preseason.

So I'm going against myself immediately here with this. Give me DTR and the Browns this evening. And I understand why you're saying that. Merrill has been playing like straight trash. That's Pac-Man Jones, 14-year NFL vet. Go ahead, pal. But maybe the Eagles offense is the offense that he's supposed to be in. We'll see.

I think this is the last go-around for him. He's been around the block a couple of times and just have not gotten the job done, not with his feet, not with his arm, not with his brain. But he has the ability, it seems like. Yeah. Has the ability to run, has the ability to throw. We got to watch quarterback.

We got to learn about him behind the scenes. Super nice guy. Yeah, for sure. Super, super good guy. Good oos, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's right. I think that whole is a real thing. But for whatever reason, Atlanta didn't work.

No. And then you watch quarterback and the way his side portrayed what happened where he disappeared from the building. And then the way Artie Smith and the Atlanta Falcons kind of portrayed it, vastly different. Even through quarterback, I don't think we really got to the bottom of it. Felt like NFL films covered that it happened. And Marcus was like, yeah, I was getting surgery.

They knew I was getting surgery. Yeah. And then they were like, we did not expect him not to be here. And then that never really answered on the quarterback episode. So that's the only thing, I think, in the history of Marcus Mariota's career

where anybody's been like, what the fuck's going on here? Beloved by his teammates. Has always been a great starter. Feels like whenever he has the opportunity. But then he goes, the Raiders has that one good night. We think he's going to capitalize Tennessee. when Derek Carr popped his hip flexor off of his body, and then you came in and started wheeling and dealing. The only thing we know is that Tennessee, Ryan Tannehill came in, and they got good. And then we know at Atlanta, you were there, and it wasn't good.

That's all anybody really remembers. So tonight he has a big opportunity, I think, to remind people of how good of a football player he is and who he is. And maybe Sirianni is going to be the offensive that he is supposed to be in like whenever he was back in Oregon. So it's going to be an electrifying night, I think. I think we've got a good preseason football game tonight. Just give me the bronze plus the three-and-a-half points

because I don't think points have really been in abundance in this particular preseason. So three-and-a-half feels like a good number. One-half of the hammer. Don! Cowboys tone digs this year. Yeah, I we we even see mariotta tonight because um i haven't seen anything from sirianni but you would think as the backup

he'd go but browns are going straight to dtr and i don't know if that means dobbs isn't playing again who they in the first preseason game the hall of fame game they didn't play deshaun watson or dobbs and they started with kellen mon and then dTR came and let him down and fucking won the game. So we assume that DTR hopped Kellen Maughan. I would think so. But do you think he hopped Dobbs? I guess that's the big question. Will Dobbs come in tonight? Is Dobbs going to play? That's the question because if that's the case, then fucking Browns plus the three and a half

is easy money. I learned my lesson last week. Preseason, we said we're not gambling on. So tonight is just for we're not putting any money on this, actually. Tonight is just like for record. Yeah, okay. That's what we're going to say.

Official records only are in play tonight. Yes. Even though some people are going to say, well, it's not official if you didn't put any money on it because that's an easy bet. Anybody can, oh, let me officially bet. You can just do anything you want. I'm going to put actual pressure on this official record of mine. For sure. This is my first bet of the season, but I did make a promise to me

and my daughter, Mackenzie. Sure. I'm not betting on these fucking preseason games anymore. I actually said to her. She was sitting right here. She was sitting right here. Yeah. Watching TV.

She's starting to watch TV. Yeah. She likes football. Sweet. Love it. That's good news. Need that. That is fucking great news here.

Very early, football comes on. Everything else is not happening. She's watching it. Some people tell me she just sees the lights, and that's what she's looking at. Don't care. The lights of a football game, she likes more than the lights of everything else.

But as I'm watching, I see something unfold in the fourth quarter, and I'm like, can't be doing the same work. We just can't be putting actual money on any of these games. That is problematic. That's like betting on a sport that you haven't watched all year, and then March Madness happens, and you have to unload your entire account onto these 18-year-olds

that you have no idea if they can put a ball into a fucking... We got a little bit with these two quarterbacks. We know Mariota, but... We don't know if Mariota's playing. No, we don't. This is the problem, Pac. We have no idea what these preseason games are. I couldn't find it.

It's all guesswork. I think Nick just sent in Sirianni's 0-3-1 in the playoffs as a favorite. Preseason. Preseason, sorry. Yeah, you said playoffs. He's not. He's dull. I think he's better than that in playoffs.

Yeah. Real bet tonight, for the record, unless it loses, then we'll start regular season. Then we'll say we didn't put money on it. Yeah, we're definitely giving ourselves an out. Like, we get it, okay? People are saying that probably to us right now, either in the comments section or if this video is to be put out onto X. I'm sure there will be a lot of X's about how we just kind of blew by something

and we missed, but welcome to sports media, baby. The Talks Table is here at Boston Corner,, Conner's mullet, and also at Ty Schmidt. Ty, we got Schefter joining us here in about 11 minutes, Adam Schefter. And every time we get a chance to catch up with him, we get very excited because obviously Rappaport, rap sheet, friend of the program, part of the program. Right. Yes. Will remain that way.

Absolutely. And Burke Magnus, who is the new president of content for espn who has been a massive ally of ours yeah big fan of ours for a long time now has been put into a position of actual influence at espn and he has been very kind to me he's also not just been like uh like he has been helped too like yeah you should think about this whenever you're addressing this because i think he kind of forecasted some of the stuff that was going to potentially come he has been helped too. Like, yeah, you should think about this whenever you're addressing this. Because I think he kind of forecasted some of the stuff that was going to potentially come. I think he's a good exec.

Like, I think he, you know, has a good brain. Yeah, like, I think he's good. Everybody assumes that people who are in powerful positions are good. What we have learned, that is not true. Couldn't be further from the truth. In a lot of different genres of business yes you know like the people that are in some of those positions don't let the title like kind of scare you or fool

you like when you're going to talk to them like don't be scared or intimidated like oh this person has this job they must be blah blah blah what we have learned and i don't know if this is the case in every other business we just so happen to walk into 10 different anomalies but you walk into some of those offices those people are scared to death that they have that position they know that they have no fucking clue what the modern world is because they at some point had to do actual influence actual work actual creation and then they get put into like a management role and then they're away from it for however long the world and the world has changed so don't be scared to talk to those people and not be intimidated of those people

and know that you can be those people. That's what I saw. Yeah, it's really inspiring, actually. Yeah, that's how I view it. I'm like, this motherfucker's doing this. Like, okay. Yeah. I think I got...

Good news. I think I have 15 future Fortune 500 CEOs working for me. This is who this fucking person is. So that is not something that I just say about every executive when I say, hey, good brain. I like the way this guy views things. I am saying about him. I would talk around that if I didn't actually feel this way.

So I do have a lot of respect and appreciation for what Burke Magnus in his short time as president of content has done for us and seemingly for all of ESPN and the entire visual but he has was asked a question this morning i think in the athletic yes and he did a full q a and i think people are really gonna like this fucking guy like honestly i don't think people know him obviously being the president of content and espn is a pretty big role in sports media i think people are gonna like him. Which is good for

everything. Personally. One of the reasons why that ended up being a home. All the questions everybody has had and tweeted about, I fucking had them too, believe me. More than you have. And the people that are in powerful positions now, actual influence positions,

feel good. Burke, though, was uh answering question this morning about the insiders and newsbreakers that come on our show is that going to be a conflict of interest with the espn it was a good question because they were reading the internet well because that was something that was brought up and i've maintained since the very beginning like no we can have we can do there's none of those yeah we're allowed to do whatever we want and i think people just didn't believe that that was the case because for how long sports media has been pretty like tight on our people our people our people yeah as opposed to like a showcase of all sports like

that's what we you know what i mean yeah so he answered the same question he was like yeah like those guys are friends of the program those guys are part of the show rap important them are part of the program we would never want to change that but and he said i might be naive about this i genuinely believe that pat and the boys are excited to meet new people that will come on the show oh yeah from our talent pool which is very deep and it's like yes so everything he says is real and everything i feel like i've said is not a lie to people publicly but whenever burke comes out and solidifies it i'm very thankful for that yeah you know because burke could have just like yeah, we'll work through that because that probably saves his ass with his people.

But instead he's like, nah, hey, this is how this goes. I'm very thankful for it. Just like what we were chatting about, though, us getting to have Schefter on is massive. That is a massive ordeal. He has, so Rappaport and Schefter are the two biggest

newsbreakers in the NFL. By far. Rappaport, friend of the program. Schefter becoming a friend of the program. That's good for not only us, but I think all. All the sports. Yeah, all NFL media. So I'm like very thankful for how this is going.

And pumped to talk to Schefter because there's big news coming out of New York about your former quarterback, about Bakhtiari being traded. We haven't heard really anything about Schefter's sources about the Jets' situations, who he's talking to. How about, like, we know he's plugged in with San Francisco. Lombardi was like, hey, that decision has been made over there on Trey Lance.

When that mom of Trey Lance bent over, put the diaper on him after he just pooped, and picked him up from the crib that baby did not have it no that is not that is what michael lombardi said and then michael lombardi like alluded to that decision's been made yeah it's done behind closed doors it's like shepherd will know yeah absolutely no i'm excited to hear what he has to say about that and everything else but

go ahead yeah i think people just assume because they're both like the insiders who are in the top like at the top of their field that like all these guys are talking to all the same people they have all the same information but it's easy to forget like they do know different people like the nfl is massive there are so many different sources and so many different people at every team who really know what's going on so like we're not just getting the same conversation that we would get from Rappaport. Like, those guys aren't just, like, mutually exclusive and easily interchangeable.

Like, they know different people. They have different information. Yeah, some of that stuff might cross over, but we're not just getting the exact same thing from Schefter that we would be from Rappaport. And they're inside competing, too. Yeah. So that's good for us.

Yeah, I think everything is. Not just us, by the way. Different people. ESPN. As a whole. Not just us, by the way. Different people. ESPN. As a whole. Good for sports media as a whole. I'm very thankful for the position we are currently in, and I'm very thankful that it is very appreciated

by the people that are in power at ESPN. Right. Not everybody there is going to be pumped about it. No, definitely not. Not everybody. And Schefter, to his credit credit has not been one of those guys at all hey whenever you need me whatever you need it's like yeah

thank you dude very thankful for that and we even you know asked him and his people like hey the rap like rap port's our guy like if you don't we understand because he has a good relationship I think with like pardon my take and other places it's like if you have any like please let us know and we understand completely he's like no anytime you need anything it's like if you have any like please let us know and all we understand completely he's

like no anytime you need anything it's like everybody's been awesome about it seemingly except for like the people that can't comprehend that it's being allowed yeah but i would like to let those people know like i think this is a good thing yeah because obviously if we're able to do it probably kind of opens the doors for everybody yeah there's gonna be a lot of things that are gonna happen where you know there's a chance that my shins will be the one taking the baseball bat. And then as soon as you get through the baseball bat forest,

it's like, oh, now there is a path. And everybody else will kind of do it. And that is exciting. That is very exciting for me to think about, for us to think about, but also for all the people that watch. Hey, we're really fucking doing it. We as a team are really,

really doing it. Starting in a basement. Okay? Haunted one. Went back into that house yesterday for the first time in a few months. How's it look? How's the mold? It actually looks, so the mold is hot. We got the mold hot. For the animals?

What's that? For the animals? The animals that are living there. Had to remove the mold out. No, it moves. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So we had to move it. For the animals? What's that? For the animals? What's that? The animals that are living there. Had to remove the mold for them? Yep. No. No, they slaughtered those.

Had to remove the mold so we could sell it. Yeah. But also. Those animals are dead. One in there looks a lot nicer than. Really? In my head, because we had to move out so quickly because we found out about a leak that created black mold in a part of our house that, I mean, I hadn't been four or

five years you know what i mean like it was way up there and sam was pregnant at the time and we're like yo you got to get out of this house like right now so we just abandoned house pretty much like all right fuck this i'm not gonna let this whole thing we get out of there we move so i i've been back there sporadically but like i just like out of sight out of mind with this place i went in there yesterday not as big as a shithole that I remember. No, not at all. Pretty positive.

But I went down in the basement, did the whole thing. I went into the room that we used to record in, and I did sit there for like 15 minutes, I think. Now, it might have been longer because I was in a place that I did at one point think was a shithole, and it was very quiet and eerie, and there was a little bit of like a spider web hanging over here oh okay you know what i mean that whole thing was happening but i sat there and thought like hey we did it we should be pumped about that and the little things

like having schaefter and ratport on the same show is like progression here yeah yeah and like becoming a commonsensical sports coverage thing and i think we're gonna keep chipping away can't wait to hear what he has to say speaking of people that are kind of changing the game, Deion Sanders will join us in the next hour. Here we go. We're 21 days away from NFL football, Con Man. And the countdown has been on for a while. 21 is just three weeks.

It also means we get to celebrate that with old prom. That's a good day, Conor. Unbelievable day, especially when you're seeing everything coming out of Colorado. I mean, we've been talking a lot about over-unders for some college football teams. Some you probably don't want to take, but Colorado, three and a half. It feels

as though the expectation isn't really there for them. Everyone's really not banking on Shadur Sanders being a guy because he's coming from Jackson State and who's he really played against. They're kind of in the driver's seat just to surprise everybody this season. I love it. It's the Pac played against. And they're kind of in the driver's seat just to surprise everybody this season. I love it.

I mean, it's the Pac-12. It's the last season, really, that's even legitimate at this point. He's not coming on. Okay. All right. Cool. Yeah. Really?

Just found out. Okay. Okay. All right. So that would have been neat. Yeah. That would have been neat. All that stuff would have been cool.

Still cool. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Just found out. Just found that out. Okay. All right. So,. Yeah, just found out. Just found that out. Okay. All right, so, you know, number 21.

Come on a different day. Yeah. Talk to him closer to season. He's in the middle of it right now. Okay. They're trying to build a team that's going to definitely go over three and a half wins. That's right. We do like 21 hours.

Yeah, I mean, maybe. That is, nope. Okay. And in the third hour and two hours and 11 minutes, we think. Yeah, maybe. Sugar is on. Sugar is on. Sugar is on, Amali.

Okay. All right. That's sweet. He's got a title fight this weekend. Yeah, in Boston. He could be a bantamweight champion of UFC. A man that is obviously kickboxed growing up in what, Montana? Helena.

In Helena, Montana. I think he dropped out of high school, just got into the fight game, and Pac was looking up other jobs that he had and everything like that. He moves out to Arizona or New Mexico, one or the other, out in the middle of the desert, commits himself fully to fighting, and then during COVID

we get introduced to this fuck with crazy hair in heavy hands. Heavy, heavy hands. And then he just started dancing his way around that goddamn octagon all the way up until a title fight. We're incredibly proud of him. Pumped for him. Can't wait to chat with him. He's in the middle of, I assume,

either starting a weight loss or breaking the thick of it. Because he's tall. And he's got to get to 135. So I don't know. If you become champion, too, you're committing to doing that forever. Consistently.

Yeah, so I guess it's something he's used to, but he'll be on at 230. I can't wait for the Eastern. Yeah, from reading up behind him, his pedigree, he's a dog, man. Oh, yeah. Coming up, he say he was working at Saks Fifth and still fighting and going back to work to support his fighting. And then he was cutting hair on the side. So he got an interesting story, man.

It looks like he's dialed in, and I'm eager to see it. He's an exciting fighter, which Dana White knows, like, need these. No offense to the wrestling fighters, okay? But I agree that you could beat the shit out of me no problem at all. Now, granted, there is some times where I might be able to go, ha, ha. I might sprawl out. Oh, yeah. Because I got a pretty good base, low center of gravity, and I've done those linebacker

drills before. Ha! You know? So it might not be like a 10-second over. Right. It might be like 25, 30 seconds. Yeah. But watching it, though, nobody's going to want to watch that. It is tough to see it. Now, when Habib was...

Habib? Because there's a K up there, and I don't think my mouth can do it. You've got to get a lot of spit in there. Yeah, I don't think I can. Whenever he was just beating the shit out of Connor or whatever, and he was just on the ground, he was just pummeling him, there was a beauty to that, it felt like,

because of the way the shit talk went in that whole thing. So there's some moments you see it. But some of these fighters that I don't know, like I'm just watching, I apologize, MMA people, I do watch, but I don't do the full research on everybody. If it's a rest, I'm like, all right, well, somebody tweet or X when that next fight is. You know what I mean?

No offense, I appreciate you going in there. But when you have an electrifying style, like the style that he has, we got sent over these bios, the style for Sugar Sean O'Malley, for instance, UFC, Aljamain Sterling here, right? He's the champ of the Bantamweight.

He's the one fighting him. What's your style here? Kickboxing and funk jitsu. Love that. Yeah. Love that. Here's Sugar Sean O'M amali what's your style gangster bro okay what's your fighting style fucking gangster okay he's excited he's he

promos yep he understands the gimmick he understands that you got to build this thing and be an entertaining character and he actually one of the first fights we saw him he could have ended a fight and he let the guy get back up because he already made shirts that said another right hand from Sugar Land. And if he would have won earlier, it would have been a left punch. So he would have had to not be able to sell his shirts.

So he stuns guy, could kill him, lets him back up so that he could get the right hand so that he could sell the merch. Like that is the type of fighters we need yeah like that is those who are thinking about merch and excitement while they're fighting we need we'll talk to sugar sean now joining us now ladies and gentlemen as a man that if he was getting knocked gone we know he would win absolutely because we've seen him in green bay wisconsin able to almost hop up over that wall that people lambo leap on we've seen him shirtless with chains

on he strapped to the gills. This is Senior NFL Insider for ESPN. You know the name, you know the sources. We're lucky to chat with him. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Nice to be with you guys. Thank you for the intro there, Pat. I still think I get my ass kicked, but that's okay. Yeah, we all would, pal. But look at you right there. Look at you. You look good, Schefter. I don't know how old you are. You look good, pal. You should be very proud of that.

56 years old, Pat. Whoa. That's 20 years from now for me, bro. 20 years from now. There's no way I'm doing that at that age. You know why? I'm going to be 350, 360. For sure.

You're being confident to take your shirt off on TV. You're pretty, do you do a lot of cardio and diet and everything like that or no? You know, I watch what I eat. I don't know that I'm hardcore about it. I like it. You know, that day, basically, the producer was assigning command mans and he assigned the Kirk Cousins putting on the chains topless video to RG3. And I'm like, well, you got to take your shirt off.

He's like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. I said, okay, okay. And then we were driving to the game and I said to the producer, I'm like, well, maybe I'll do that. He's like, we could do that. I said, let me call the boss. So I called one of our bosses and he said, what is Denzel, you know, the 21-year-old production assistant driving into the game thing?

I go, Denzel, what do you think? He's like, you gotta do it. That's one way, as you know, Pat, that high-level decisions are made at ESPN. Denzel signed off on it and I did it. Denzel is a great focus group. Denzel out of Chicago. I'm a massive fan. He works on Game Day as well.

He's awesome. Love Denzel. Swagged out. Swagged out from eyes with his glasses all the way down to his toes We're talking One day I saw him in a Philadelphia Flyers jersey Black dude from Chicago Wearing a Philadelphia Flyers jersey Jeans and then he had like these

Orange and black new balances And that was like the first day I saw him I'm like god damn Hey you're killing it man I was like you're a Flyers fan they fucking stink He's like I'm not a Flyers fan i got shoes i'm like oh dude you look awesome yeah he's a good guy i'm happy you made that decision good decision by denzel maybe we should put denzel in a chair that maybe makes a little bit yeah more decisions that's not for us to decide right now what is to decide by us is what we kind of dive into and give the world more information about let's start in new jersey let's start with the new york jets who canceled their practice on the bucks last

minute let's not even dive into that i assume that was decided for a reason that is important it wasn't just a hey fuck you we're not doing this but whatever the case they're saying that offensive line is terrible hard knocks had a this offensive line is terrible moment. Now, offensive lines can come together. Now there's a whole story about Aaron in the approach of taking the massive $35 million off the table was, hey, you can maybe bring in Bakhtiari, allegedly,

is being chatted about. He tagged him right across his ass. Bakhtiari right across his ass on the Instagram story Aaron did. What is the story with Bakhtiari? What is the story with the Jets offensive line? And how deep should everybody dive into this? The picture of Aaron's asshole right there.

Well, first of all, I think the Jets offensive line is pretty good. Now, I don't know if he's putting David Bakhtiari's name on his butt to send some kind of subliminal message or just have fun with his pal or I don't know the meaning of that I had not heard that the Jets were trying to pry loose David Bakhtiari nor have I heard that Kansas uh the Green Bay is interested in moving on from what I can tell you having seen David last week you know 10 years ago me him and a couple of other Packers offensive linemen shot a Gillette Razor commercial, which obviously I still am in need of

some more Gillette Razors if they're listening. And it was the first time I had seen him in person up close. And we spoke for a while in the Packers team hotel in Cincinnati last week. And I can tell you this, he feels great, which is welcome news for, I would assume, the Green Bay Packers. This is the best he's felt in a long time. He's ready to play. He's ready to go. And that's a big-time reinforcement, we assume, for Jordan Love. Now, again, I haven't heard anything about the Jets. That doesn't mean something couldn't come to be, but I don't think teams are usually in the business of just essentially moving on from strong quality offensive tackles in this league because they want to make their friends happy.

Like I don't think Green Bay is out to do Aaron Rodgers any favors. Not that I heard that Bakhtiar is available, but it's fun for everybody to talk about and wander about the meeting. Like you get Aaron on the show and ask him, like, are you trying to petition Green Bay to create a backyard? Why don't you text him? That was good the last time

I heard. You know what? I've been in their building twice in the last week. I brought Ozzy Mentalist there last Sunday. Oh, hey, home run on Hart. That guy, three bits. Unreal. Each one blew my mind.

That's my guy. You know the backstory behind that? No, all I know is this motherfucker's got a talent. I don't know who he is. He's unbelievable. So about 13 years ago, he was performing at my brother-in-law's company's Christmas parties for $600. My wife saw him.

She brought him to my son's birthday party. We had him at my daughter's birthday party last year. Some of the ESPN bosses were there and they're like, holy cow, we got to get this guy out on the road. And we last summer booked some teams. It was obviously a big success playing those features on Sunday countdown. So we put together a schedule this year and I went with them last week to the Jets. And then we went to Oxnard last Wednesday and Cincinnati on Thursday for the Bengals and the Packers. And Friday I took him to the University of Michigan because he went to Michigan, and he's like, hey, could we do Michigan?

I'm like, yeah. Can they give me a helmet? Can I get a helmet? I said, let me make a call. So we did Michigan last Friday. And that's going to run on college game day. And that was off the charts. Oh, okay.

Look at that. I've been told I have a little bit more sway on that. We'll see. We'll see if it makes the – no, I'm joking. I'm joking. I think the more of that guy, the better. How about you being like a scout? You're like Jimmy Iovine or whatever.

You're fine. You got the golden eye. You're like, you know what? This talent. I've never been a booking agent in a roadie combination, out. You're like Jimmy Iovine or whatever. You got the golden eye. You're like, you know what? I've never been a booking agent and a roadie combination, but I am happy to be a booking agent and roadie. That's what I was for him. Mapped out his schedule, traveled around to

make sure that nobody accosted him and make sure he got everything that he needed. It was fantastic. Well, listen, you're a good friend. Seemingly great yeah for this guy and i don't want to say you just kind of kick coon into the curb but i think anytime you want to step into that world a little bit sounds like you got to figure it out pretty damn good you got this guy touring professional buildings yeah in his first

countrywide i mean that's that's a big anyways let move on, though. Aaron was a big fan of the trick. Did the mentalist win over Aaron for you? Have you chatted with him? How was the conversation? I'm actually kind of excited to hear that because whenever he told us, why don't you ask Schefter what I said whenever he asked me a question?

And then you tweeted, yeah, he did tell me, lose my number. Where are you guys at now? Yeah, here it is. That is. Well, I honestly, my path has not crossed with him. I was about 25 feet from him yesterday. I was at the Jets, and I spent time with Alan Lazard, who was very nice.

I spent time with Randall Cobb. I spent time last week with David Bakhti. So I'm spending time with all his guys, you know, like everybody but him. Were you scared to walk over to him? Yeah, why didn't you say, hey? Why didn't you go over there? The opportunity, he was surrounded by people. Like, I'm not going to force my way.

You know, again, if it happens, it happens. Why didn't you just get, you take your shirt off, walk right over to him. I think he'll say, you know what? Respect the cut of this guy's gym. We're cool. How you doing, do that next time next time you're around him yep plop the top off and just walk right over stern handshake nice to meet you mr rogers that would i think that would earn his yeah earn his respect you know i i had a shirt to give him too hold on here we go yes love this i had a shirt to give him, too. Hold on. Here we go. Love this. I had a shirt to give him, too, right? I forgot to bring it yesterday.

You should wear that shirt. Yeah, yes. You're wearing that and then taking that off, signing it, giving it to him. Now we're doing it. Best friends. Now we're doing it. Best friends. Now we're doing it. That's amazing. Okay, so it sounds like you don't like or believe any of the conversations about Bakhtiari going.

Do you think they're going to make a play with the offensive line, even though you started that with saying, I think the offensive line's pretty good? Robert Sala obviously wanted to motivate them to get to their best form. Well, let me say this. First of all, I think Dwayne Brown's going to make it back at left tackle, and I think they really like Dwayne Brown. I think at right tackle, I think they like Max Mitchell. They're talking about moving their rookie center over to left guard. I don't think

it's as desperate as people think, and I think it takes a little bit of time. It sounds like Aaron was saying during his press conference yesterday, he's going to be patient. Do I think it's the best offensive line in the league? No. Do I think they have questions? Yes. Do I think it's as bad as people say it is? I don't think that. You know, Billy Turner could play right.

They got some guys. They got some talent. And let's keep in mind this too, right? Like when Tom Brady went to Tampa, Tom Brady knows to get rid of the football pretty quick. Like Aaron's pretty savvy. He's not holding on of the football pretty quick. Like Aaron's pretty savvy. He's not holding onto the football back there. You know, it's going to be drop, boom, out. And I think that he'll help mitigate some of those deficiencies

or questions in the offensive line. And having a quarterback like him helps cover up some of that. Now, if you have a young quarterback out there who's holding on to the football, and he's going to get it, it's a problem. Yeah, got you. Yeah, and I think Nathaniel Hackett doesn't want Aaron to die either. And I don't think Salah does either. And Salah recognizes the problem.

Salah, good football mind as well. So he's probably telling Hackett, hey, how are we getting around what we're thinking here so we can get Aaron to December when we need him to be? Even though Aaron, best shape he's been in. They said something about his calf yesterday. That's not real? Is there a calf thing? Well, on Tuesday,

at one point, he kind of seemed to hurt his calf a little bit, but he continued to practice and he practiced yesterday, so it doesn't seem like it's a major deal. All right. Well, he's jock, too. He feels like he's in the best shape that he's been in. He's actually said he feels like he, he said, I know everybody says this.

I think is what he actually said, but I feel like I'm in the best shape of my life right now, which I'm not in the best shape of my life. I'm not, but most people are Pat, but you were, you know what I mean? At one point, not too long ago, Kirk was on his, uh, gold chain run and you were in great shape i got one more question for you before the boys do so lombardi michael lombardi who obviously has been around the nfl forever and now speaks into microphones and writes books and emails and newsletter every talks he has 55 jobs okay 50 he has 55 jobs as a man. It's unbelievable what it is truly.

I'll call him and he'll be like, I'll get right back with you. I'm in the middle. And then he'll call me back. What's up? And I'm like, how do you have so much energy at the age that you have? How do you have a shot? Anyways, he came out and said pretty much that in San Francisco, it is what it is with Trey Lance behind closed doors. Like they know what it is. They've made the decision.

Now figuring out what to do with Trey Lance is kind of where they're at right now. And that was a part of the quote in which he said, whenever Trey Lance's mom picked him up from the crib, he didn't have the quarterback instinct. That's not his fault. It's just something that he doesn't have. Now, is Lombardi being ridiculous? Probably.

But also, he does have sources around places. Is the decision already made in your eyes about Trey Lance? And how do you think they go forward with this? What decision? Decision that what? That he's three. And it's like they're going to figure out what the hell they're going to do. No, I wouldn't say that. No, I don't think that that's made at all. I don't. I think that they're open minded there. And I think they like Sam.

I think Trey, the first couple of weeks, looked probably a little bit sharper than Sam did. But we said this to you in June. That's what preseason's for. They have two more games. They have more practices. I think it's pretty close right now. Oh, really? I'm not writing off Trey Lance like that at all and saying he's three.

No. Here we go. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And listen, I have great respect for Michael. Michael is a hustler, and I mean that in a complimentary way. Absolutely.

But Brock Purdy is the quarterback. I've said it to you before. I'll say it again. He's the starting quarterback. And then what they do behind him, I think, is still up in the air. I don't think they know yet. Okay. Well, I enjoy hearing that. I love hearing that. And I like the fact

that we might still be able to see what Trey Lance could be in this league, even though he only has and I think Orlovsky said this, 416 pass attempts since like 2016 or something like that. Who knows? What a wild scene. This is going to be like 10 years looking back.

Like, hey, you remember when? And it's like, did he go on? Well, you know what, Pat? Look, that's the history of quarterbacks, right? So this year there were quarterbacks picked at one, two, and four. And if you just go back and look at the history, the chances are that probably at least two of those guys are not going to hit. At least two of those guys are not going to hit.

So we could do this every year with every quarterback, top quarterback that's picked. The hit rate is probably less than 50%, less than 50%, probably closer to 33%. Yeah, I think we did the math. Yes, we did. For one of our drafts, yes we did for one of our go ahead for one of our draft spectaculars that we do for the first round of draft night

because i didn't i don't think i ever watched the draft until i retired and then i watched it in the way no offense to you but the way it's being talked about by people on tv on draft night is like this guy is gonna boom future this guy's gonna become a to become a guy. We started looking into it as people that have been in locker rooms before. I've seen a lot of dudes that are supposed to come in and be guys and just right back on out of there. It's hard to make it in the NFL. I think that gets

forgotten whenever you're in draft season through it all. First of all, let's say there are 270 picks. Everybody when they're picked oh my god this guy can do this and he can do that and he's got this skill set it's sort of like it's the draft version of or the training camp version of everybody's i'm in the best shape of my life well everybody's gonna be the best player like that's what that is at the draft because the

draft is about hope and optimism and inevitably then the guys come to camp and you know you've been in camp where you've seen first-round picks come in probably like man this guy's you see right away like this guy's a player or you see right away this guy can't play yeah right there's there are picks you made pack you've been in camp before right no no he actually he sat out every camp okay is aj here with us today like there, there are times you come in right away. A guy can play, and you can see right away a guy can't. And then sometimes you think a guy can play.

Like, I remember coaches telling me about guys, watch this guy. He's unbelievable. He's going to go to the Pro Bowl. And they get in the first preseason. Like, I remember one running back in Denver. I remember Mike Shannon telling me, like, this guy's going to be unbelievable. Watch. Like, he's lighting it up in practice. I remember Mike Shannon telling me, this guy's going to be unbelievable. Watch. He's lighting it up in

practice. Unbelievable. They had their first preseason game that year on the road, and the guy fumbled two of his first three handoffs, and that was basically the end of him. We never heard much more about him. We lost a lot of hope in that guy. He put the ball on the ground. We could have never foreseen that. We did think he was going to be

a guy, and all of a sudden, he's just giving the ball to the other team. They can't do that. Some guys during practice are okay. The lights go on. They're great. Some guys during practice are great. The lights go on.

They're not great. Like, everybody's different, but you can usually get a sense right away whether a guy can play or not play in practice. And what you just said, to finish that quote, you did two of them. There's three of them. And those who are great-great are great-great.

Yeah, like through all of it. The greats in practice are great. Like that is, I think, something that young players are like, I'll be able to flip the switch. I'll be able to flip the switch. Switch is always on. It's like, yeah, with the great players, we don't have a switch. That fucker's broke.

And it is on. It's an amazing thing. So you're saying there's still a chance for Trey Lance. That's good news. Let's go, Trey. Here we go, Trey. You're not going to be one of them statistics. No's an amazing thing. So you're saying there's still a chance for Trey Lance. That's good news. Let's go, Trey. Here we go, Trey. You're not going to be one of them statistics. No, no, no.

No way. Speaking of somebody that just got signed and has a lot of optimism and hope, the Patriots fans thought maybe they're getting Dalvin. Instead, Zeke shows up. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Shaft, he's still excited about Zeke. Let's not get anything twisted here.

He did not say that the day Zeke was signed. I did not. What I said was it's impossible to compare excitement between Dalvin Cook and Ezekiel Elliott for signing for your team strictly because of what they've done the last three years respectively. But clearly the Patriots need running back help. He shows up in Green

Bay. A lot of people are saying, oh my God, is Ezekiel Elliott 285 pounds? I said no way. He has sweatshirts on. He does this all the time in camp. How did that kind of progress between Belichick, New England and Ezekiel Elliott? And what do you see his role being and what was the intention of bringing him in? Well, Connor, first of all, when he got his haircut, I think he lost some weight there, right there. Left a lot of hair on the ground but he essentially you know had an idea early on of winding up in philly or cincinnati or buffalo and none of those situations ever really materialized huh and so the the only

team that he visited the only team we know he visited was the new england patriots on saturday july 29th and that night you, he had dinner with Mac Jones and Ramondre Stevenson. He was excited. And I think what happened was you just wait because veterans aren't in any rush to get to camp and they want to see if there's another contender that suffers an injury. But New England missed out on DeAndre Hopkins. So it was just looking to add another offensive weapon in whatever way it could. They were missing Damian Harris, who went to Buffalo, so it worked out with Zeke. They could have used Zeke and Hopkins, certainly, but they wind up getting Zeke. And I think that Ramondre Stevenson is still the one,

but they get Zeke. He's got a point to prove. He's got a chip on his shoulder. The Dallas Cowboys basically cut him. So I'll take Zeke like that. I get no issues with that. And New England wants to go play tough defense and run the football and then have a little bit of a new passing attack, some play actions with Bill O'Brien. So to me, it's a good pickup. It's a strong pickup. I don't think he had another real offer out there. Best I could tell, he was talking to some other teams, waiting to see if something materialized. It never did. And when it doesn't, when you're about a month out of the season, you say, time to go up to camp, time to get into game shape, time to get ready for the season ahead.

Dalvin Cook signed with the Jets. Zeke follows, signs with the New England Patriots. Congrats to both of them now. The running back market is what it is. But seemingly two people ended up in good spots. There's one more running back that was in the headlines a little bit. Good, Ty. Yeah, Chef, did you have any idea what's going on with Kareem Hunt?

We heard he went down to New Orleans, and then he either got a call from his agent or someone saying, hey, the Colts are going to give you more money. So he goes to the Colts, and they're interested, but they don't ever sign him. We were talking about Lombardi. He speculated that maybe his medical wasn't what they expected and that's why a deal never came to fruition. But have you heard anything about where he's going to wind up or the timeline of

that? I was told just the other day, this guy said that basically he's sifting through the options. He's got options teams are calling. I think it's one of those situations where you're waiting for the right offer at the right time with the right fit. It just hasn't materialized. Obviously, he heard something while he was in New Orleans to make him go to Indianapolis. The deal with New Orleans doesn't happen. Conditioning might be a part of it. I don't know that it is or it isn't, but all these players, they recognize that as we get closer to the season, it's kind of go time. And I think it's go time for him

and I would imagine he'll be with a new team soon enough. Okay. He's coming to the Colts? Well, I don't know that. Well, what's going on with Jonathan Taylor? Do you know anything? Do you know anything that we don't know? Because I feel like we've heard my angle, which is just trying to get information out of people

that aren't going to give any information out around the building, but they're just talking about how the vibes are with him. And then obviously, Rappaport has somebody, we think. We don't know which side it is, but he gives kind of loose details. Are you tight with this situation at all? And is this not the weirdest thing? This is weird right now. Team in a shitty place last year, fourth pick he best player on the team two months ago

says hey i'm coming back baby facing i i signed the contract i know the team is trying to build a new culture with a new quarterback new everything then he gets new agent seemingly running back situation happens now it's almost like he's fighting not only the Colts, but also the entire NFL. And a lot of Colts fans are like, yo, now's not the time to do this. If you wanted to do this, it should have been maybe earlier. Like, what is going on there?

How hurt is he? You know, because Chris Ballard said we need him at 100%. And then Jonathan Taylor left to go out of state to get his ankle. I didn't even know that was that serious. It is. Colts fans seem to be, like, disinterested in Jonathan Taylor left to go out of state to get his ankle. I didn't even know that was that serious. It is. Colts fans seem to be, like, disinterested in Jonathan Taylor right now, but the national fans are still like, get Jonathan Taylor on our team. I assume teams will want to trade for him.

Are the Colts going to do that? Are they going to sign him? What are your thoughts right now on what's going on with Jonathan Taylor? Well, there's a lot there, right? And it's an evolving situation. And I think that, yes, his ankle, yeah, it was a lot there, right? And it's an evolving situation. And I think that, yes, his ankle, yeah, it was a question mark. And yes, there are some things that he's still physically trying to get past. But I also think that he also would test positive for contractitis if we gave him a test.

I think that there are a lot of players that would test positive. I mean, it's just the fact of the matter, right? The guy wants to be paid or he wants to be traded. And the Colts want to keep him. But there's a lot here. And I think both sides, I said to you before, they need to kind of let the situation calm down. His reason for stepping away right now is truly legitimate. It is a personal issue right now.

It's nothing related to football. So he's tending to that particular situation right now. Okay. So let's hope that that gets resolved here pretty soon. I think that the Colts, they need to find a way to calm the situation, whatever that may be. And Jonathan Taylor, I think both sides need to give a little bit here, right? The Colts need to say, hey, let's see if we could sit down and talk contract. He needs to be willing to try to get back on the field, show some good faith efforts, and they need to get back into a better place than they've been. Because somewhere along the way, it went off the rails.

And I don't know whether that's related to that running back meeting where all of a sudden Jonathan Taylor felt like he had to represent some of the running backs that were out there in a market where the running backs had been wronged, or whether it was Jim Irsay coming out a couple of different times and tweeting and saying things that he shouldn't have, that offended his running back and made his running back very upset. There's a few different spots, inflection points, this summer where the situation regressed, clearly. So now it's up to both sides to figure out a way to get it back on the track. Now, when you talk about a trade, do I think there will be teams out there that would be interested? Yes. Do I think that those teams would be willing to give up what the Colts would want back in return and compensate Jonathan Taylor both? I think that's challenging. I'm not going to tell you it can't happen because, of course, it could. But it's not easy.

So the easier solution is they have a young rookie starting quarterback. Dog, pick the part of the Chicago Bears yesterday. Oh, yeah. Pick the part of the Chicago Bears yesterday. They need a rookie. Dominated the Chicago Bears last night. That's not what I saw. That's not what I saw.

Anthony Richardson dominated them. Sorry. Anyways, go ahead. And so they need to support him in every way possible. And the best way to do that is with one of the best guys, maybe the best guy on your team. So, again, I'd say it's up to both sides to find a way to come together like Etch-A-Sketch.

Like, let's shake it clean, start a new, fresh chapter. Okay. Right? I like that. And let's see if we can figure out a solution where let's shake it clean start a new fresh chapter okay right i like that and let's see if we could figure out a solution where everybody's happy and that to me would involve a new contract that both sides could live with that would give the cults their star room like he's 24 years old he's a great guy you want to build god you want to build around guys like that. You don't want to lose guys like that. So get it done.

Figure out a way. Yeah, we also had guys in that locker room betting on our own team, people being late to meetings, people being late to appointments. It's like there's a lot of things where I'm like, yo, bro, fourth overall pick, and while you were one of the leaders of the team, the entire culture of the Indianapolis Colts kind of went to shit. So, like, whenever you say at April, hey, I'm here for this whole thing, we're all very pumped.

We love JT in this season. Absolutely loved. And then when he's the only guy, okay, and there's people that are going to say, I'm holding Ursae's water here. And it's like, Ursae afforded me the opportunity to have all this. Yes. I'm very, very thankful for Ursae. And Ursae should not have been the one that's tweeting about the running back market and everything like if he wanted

that message out because he feels like he's the oldest owner and it's our league tell woody johnson to fucking put it out yeah or tell somebody else that's not in the middle of this to tweet it so i don't think ursa was writing this whole thing either but like from an indianapolis colts fan perspective it is hard to be on JT's side in this whole thing at all because we've heard about our team just getting dismantled from within pretty much. While this guy is one of our leaders, it's like, I don't know if... What did JT have to do with dismantling the team? So like people being late to meetings and training and betting on their team?

Like, yeah, the locker room needs to fucking mandate that shit. That is... But Jonathan Taylor didn't have it. What did he have to do with that? See, Schefter, you've never been in a locker room. That's what I just heard from you. That is a locker room thing. People showing up late to meetings,

of course the coaches can find them, but the leaders in the locker room would be like, hey, we don't fucking do that around here. This is professional football. So that type of stuff, if you're an alumni of the colts for instance you know and i'm not the only one god damn it i'm nowhere near that but i watch it i'm like this group here that all got paid not jonathan taylor we wish you did this group here got paid more money than all the guys that built this fucking stadium that they're playing inside of and right now all the

stories we're hearing from inside out is like it just wants a complete toxic bad football okay you know what i mean so so okay so so i i've been in locker rooms but you're upset that jonathan didn't step up and do more to prevent that not upset about it just saying like you're one of the leaders on a team and this happened while you're in the locker room. Then you say, hey, I'm going to perform my contract. Then you're the only guy that isn't getting in with the new culture in the new offense. It's really tough as Colts fans to be

like, we're on Jonathan Taylor's side here. I love Jonathan Taylor. Here's the deal. Last year, he's 23 years old. He's still on a rookie contract. He's a highly productive player. I don't know that his job entails being a leader of the team and stopping guys from betting or being late.

Now, maybe he could have been more proactive there, but I don't think that we're making judgments about whether we want to keep or pay a player based on how assertive he was with other players. No, yeah. I think that's just one of the things. There's a lot of things that are just kind of stacking up, and it's like all these things are a heel move by Jonathan Taylor,

who's been the baby face for us literally the entire time, which I think he's probably saying, like, yeah, I've been the perfect community person, the perfect coach, and you're not paying me or whatever. And I can understand that. But just two months ago, you said you didn't want to negotiate and have a whole new contract. So it's like, as a Colts fan, I'm just speaking for Colts fans.

That's what I'm saying. Something has changed over the course of the summer where the situation went from him saying, okay, I don't need a new contract, him saying, I do need a new contract, him saying, I do need a new contract, whether that's him standing up and representing other players, whether it was something Jim Irsay said, whether it was a change of heart that he, I don't know what changed, but there was a change in the way that he was approaching this. And so since then, the situation has regressed. It hasn't moved the right way.

It's regressed. And he's a part of that regression, but he's not the full reason that there's been a regression. Again, I blame Jim Irsay some, and I'm a big Jim Irsay fan. I blame Jonathan Taylor some. I blame you. It's everybody's collective fault. His agent. That they've allowed it.

His agent. His agent, fine. His agent, too. It's all their fault that they've allowed it to get to this spot. I agree. Where, again, it's disintegrated the relationship. The situation has gone backwards. And they're getting closer to the season.

And so, in my mind, it's up to both sides to figure out a way to stop the and figure out what works. Because the way it is right now, and the way it's been this summer, doesn't work and doesn't help either side moving forward. So, like, with that being said, I think everybody I don't know, just from watching it

though, everybody else is moving efficiently, positively. Like, on the offensive side, buying in, getting better, like going into the Shane Steichen kind of culture. And he's literally hoodie off to the side. It's like it is not good at all. I know, but can you imagine what that's like for a coach, too, by the way? Oh!

Let's imagine. Best player! Your best player! Right, you're trying to implement your culture, and you've got your best player in his hoodie disgruntled scowling like leaving camp coming back leaving coming like yeah that's it that's a terrible that again that's terrible for everybody that's not good for the coach not good for the player not good for the organization not good for the owner not good for the age not good for anybody yeah the money though right? That's how this whole thing ends, you think?

Is it too toxic? That's my big thing. Of course. But what is it too toxic? Like, is Jim Hersey never going to give in? No. Well, no. No, but there are wounds that have to be healed and patched up and repaired.

I mean, both sides have done damage, right? So that's what I'm saying. It's time to wipe that slate clean. Shake it up. And then sit down and be responsible, mature, professional individuals and figure what is it that's going to make both sides happy. Yeah. Okay? And you know what that is?

That's a fair deal. That makes both sides happy. That's a fair deal. That makes both sides happy. That's going to happen. Definitely. I do not like it at all. Just because massive JT fan. And he is so good at fucking football. And like him and

Anthony Richardson in the backfield. Oh my God. Let's do it. I mean, Pat, you want to keep guys like that. For sure. So figure it out. But Jim pays. It shouldn't be that hard.

Everybody. Jim pays everybody. We can put both sides in the damn studio with you, and you and I in 15 minutes can figure out a solution. Okay? The only issue with me being in there will be like, yeah, Jim, just give him fucking $50 million.

Stop crying. And then all of a sudden now, you know, that whole thing is happening. It's just like, it's all very ugly and messy. And what you just said about Shane Steichen, so real. Like, him trying to implement this whole thing,

the offense, the culture. Because remember, like, people, everything I just said, where I'm like, yo, Jonathanlor also in that locker room and that's happening as one of the leaders and i know he's young and i'm not blaming him for that but also like hey that locker room was shit too like everything was seemingly shit over these fine but but but you still want to keep your best players agreed yeah it's football

that's that'd be good but what if they hate you you That's a whole other story. It wasn't an issue the year before when he was the offensive MVP and rushing for all those yards. He was the same guy, right? Well, that he is right now? He was the mayor of Indianapolis. Yeah, everyone had a jersey. Yeah, everyone had a jersey. I thought you were the mayor of Indianapolis.

No, no, no, no, no. Actually, the political world does not like me, bud. That's what I've learned. That's what I've learned. That's what I've learned, Shefty. But I appreciate you coming in here and giving us your take and your angles, brother. We really do appreciate it. If you want to arrange for Jim Irsay and Jonathan Taylor and Shane Steichen and Chris

Ballard and Malky Coward to come into that studio, I guarantee you that we can get this solved in 30 minutes. You think it's just a miscommunication. That's all this is. Misunderstanding, miscommunication, classic business. I think it's a lot of built-up bad feelings and ill will that everybody needs to kind of let go of. They need to figure out what is the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal, like I said, is to come up with a fair deal that works for both sides.

It's not that hard to figure out. Come on here, let's smoke some dope. Pass the peace pipe. Shake the hatchet sketch. Get right back into it. We appreciate the hell out of you, Shafty. Going to be a great football season this year. Looking forward to it, my friend. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Shafter.

Thank you. As it continues to linger on there, and I was thinking of all the things I'm adding up, and I only thought of this whenever it's like, he's potentially not going to be on our team. It's like, how does this whole thing go? It's like, you just think more and more negative stuff. Like, naturally, you're like, yeah, also, bro, come on.

Also, bro, come on. Also this, but, I mean, if he gets paid, I'm fucking very happy. I want everybody to make a billion dollars. That's what I would like everybody to make. It's just the way you go about getting it I think is an actual process and I don't want to say trust the process but like you can't just piss off

the people that you're trying to seek a massive contract and money from if they're making the decision. Now you can tell like an undergroup at a company like hey y'all are terrible. Boom, boom, boom. But the people that are actually doing the deciding on how much money comes and goes out of a building, especially at that level, like, I don't know if you should just start a war with that person, which seemingly happened.

And I'm not saying that person made the right decision either. But at least you got to play a little bit here, you know, a couple weeks if you want to get a deal done and do some business. I just, I don't know if it's fixable. They're saying it's fixable. I like that Shefty has some optimism there. I don't, because it feels like Jonathan Taylor's made up his decision. Yes. He's like, I don't want to fucking be here anymore.

And by the way, good on him. Like, if he thinks he should have been paid last year, which may be, he should have been paid after his almost MVP of the NFL year, which was spectacular, when everybody in Indianapolis was wearing 28s. I agree with him. Like, hey, get paid then. But after coming out, whenever there's money available to do contracts,

in that time period saying, I don't want a new contract. I'm just going to play my contract or whatever. And then for this all to kind of unfold, it's tough as a local. I'm not talking about the national fan. I'm just talking as an Indianapolis Colts fans are watching this. Anthony Richardson is so positive, especially with what he did to the fucking bum-ass Bears. Oh, I heard he was checked out in Charlie. No, no, he went like 11-11, had a deep ball, touchdown,

and then he threw a pick. But they said he looked real comfy. That was good, yeah. He said, look at this ball. Bucket, how you doing? Oh, man. Keep it moving. It's a dime.

Now, I will say we lost a wide receiver to a torn ACL, Doolin, who's a touchdown scoring machine last night, which is not good, but that's going to happen in the sport of football. We hope Godspeed for him. Zito, you were boots on the ground at that practice last night. Yeah, he is so big. You talked about him before. Anthony Richardson's a massive human being, amazing arm.

Justin Fields is big, too. Yeah, he has probably two inches on him. Two and a half inches, three inches probably. Yeah, Anthony Richardson's a big guy. I think that is something you see in real life that you won't necessarily understand. He runs people over, too. He's not doing it at these joint practices, I would assume. How was it?

What was the practice like? There were a couple scuffles I heard. So the only thing I would say bad about the Colts, whenever a big play happened, whole team not celebrating. A little bit sidelined. That's all I saw. Did they make the Bears have no big plays? The Bears had a lot of big plays.

They were celebrating nonstop. But it was just one of those things where I noticed right away it was dead after. He went 11 for 11. It was just dead. Can't have it. That's bad. And maybe just every day for him. maybe that's what it is. Alright boys, let's make sure we get some more energy out there. Let's celebrate when our team...

How was Fields? Fields looked really good. It was a lot of like, no deep balls I saw, but he had a good ball at DJ Moore a couple times, but that was crazy. Yeah, I think, and by the way when I said bum-ass Bears, I don't actually mean that. I'm talking shit to Zito, who utilized our Colts connection to get boots on the ground

at the Bears joint practice last night. They did have the first pick in the draft, though. Yeah, they traded out of it. And got a maize receiver out of it. Ignore that history, though. You're not allowed to acknowledge it. What's that? That they were the first pick in the draft.

They got out of that quickly. That was smart. Yeah, genius. Hey, who wants it? Yep. It's just a sound. DJ Moore. Nobody remembers. He did have that sweet touchdown in preseason. He did? quickly that was smart yeah genius hey who wants it yep that was just just dj nobody remembers they had like a 70 yarder yeah and then there was another one that was like a little harbor yeah yeah that was a couple bombs from fields i mean the dude was just spinning their pill don't need

you to do what the air is doing look at that thing look at that thing what Look at that thing. Hey, look at the big boys moving, though, getting out in space. How about that football? He's got wheels. Low and to the right. So the Titans, bro, like defense is normally pretty good. Yes. So the fact that they're able, Justin Fields is able to manipulate the defense so much. Look what he just did.

Extended a play. Big boys out front. Big boys are rolling. They were not past the line of scrimmage when that ball was thrown? That's awesome. They just passed a real foul. Yeah.

Huh? You can't be on the screen. Oh, okay. Was that a screen? Yeah. He checked into the screen, I heard, too. Fields broke the defense down before the play. I don't think that was supposed to be.

Was it supposed to be? Oh, yeah. I was talking to some big leagues last night. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let them in. Yeah. Those guys are five yards down the field behind the line of scrimmage, though, I guess.

Look at your fucking offensive line, bro. 69's got wheels. Hey, everybody's making fun of Fields for not earning these touchdowns or whatever. Let's just talk about their offensive line. Their line did. So if Justin Fields didn't earn it, the offensive line did. Look at these big fucks. And I'll say the whole big thing was always like, we don't have O-line.

We don't have weapons. We have all that now. So, yeah. Oh, no. What if? Hey, it is what if season. It is. You need a good offensive line. Very important. That looked like a good offensive line.

Justin Fields didn't do anything. Justin Fields didn't do anything. It's like, two tuds, baby. Hey, sorry about it. Most MVP tickets in the entire NFL. Justin Fields? Yep. Most bet on player to win the NFL. Ran out of a sack, too. I love that. I absolutely love that.

Yeah, I mean, he's not going to. Well, I also like it because the Colts last night just. I think the Bears. The Bears are going to be good as long as he don't have to throw the ball a hundred times a game. He can do stuff like that. Extend the pocket and use his feet. I think the Bears are going to be pretty decent. Is this from the Bears social media or the Colts?

Definitely Bears. Okay, yeah, of course. I believe AR's rookie of the year odds. Oh, I didn't see that anywhere. That was a great catch. They did finally get a wide receiver. That should help. Yeah.

And he's been playing with the Bucs. And I'll tell you, Chase Claypool looked amazing. He wasn't dressed yesterday, but he looked real good. You just saw him, like, posing? Fashion? Did he have his fashion on? He does look good, bro. That is one thing about him.

Yeah. He's built well. What if he puts it all together this year? He might. I hope he does. I doubt it. I hope he does. Why?

He worried about fashion. What do you have on, Zeke? What do you worry about? He had a jersey on and some nice sweatpants. He had a Louis Chicago practice. Some nice J's. Listen, I have no problem with anybody that's worried about fashion. Look at me.

I'm worried about fashion. Yeah, you are. Stephon Diggs wears shin guards. Exactly. And he dominates. Game changing. You're a big fashion guy. I was about to say, Pac, you like that.

You're a big fashion guy. I dominate on the field. Oh, you're saying he likes fashion more than he likes football. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That ain't true. Come on, Mapletron. Hey, what do you say? Good luck, boys.

Did you put him in the category with who? That's his nickname. No, what did you just say? That's his nickname. Mapletron. He's from Canada. Yeah, that's his nickname. They got maple syrup.

That's right. Notre Dame. They wouldn't stop calling him. They almost called him Moose-tron, but they wanted maple instead like m words that are canadian moose tron that's not bad that's a big one you got that big catch radius too with that fucking antlers those are sweet and then somebody was like no it's right there the fly maple tron oh and then went then he went to pittsburgh started making these catches like This is the next. This is fucking Mapletron.

This is the guy. And then whatever reason, it just kind of all stopped. Well, seven made him that year. All right. Let's get to a break. And he's traded for a first-round pick. And now they got another first-round pick that's been traded for, too. Yep.

DJ. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah, Z. Is this the year? This is our year. I hope so, because the Colts beat the shit out of you guys. So if you guys are winning, ipso facto, that means we're winning. You guys are winning. And guess who that is? And this is without Jonathan

Taylor. We have Jonathan Taylor who's not even in the building. I didn't even know that was the case. Personal reasons. I hope everything's okay. Legit. Can they not just say we'll negotiate eight weeks in like can we not just say like here's a negotiation period that we will have a clearer picture on how you will be in Shane Steichen's offense how you and Anthony Richardson will be together how maybe we'll know how much money we're going to have here

going forward this season can we just negotiate that we'll know how much money we're going to have here going forward this season. Can we just negotiate that we'll put a negotiation window in at this exact time? I love that. Is there a closet if he tears his ACL in week four that he still gets paid? That's interesting. That's where

Malky's going to have to do some real negotiating. My favorite part from yesterday was every Colts media person had binoculars, and they were just all looking for him the whole practice. They gave him a sheet, and they were just like, let's find this guy. Zito was hanging out with all the media members. Wasn't allowed to wear his Chicago Bears three-quarters zip with his dick and mask. Could not do it, no.

Yeah, they told him not to. They said, just have a little cooth, okay? Big Edge was there. Edron James? Yeah. Was Jim there? No. I saw Jim last night.

Oh, yeah. That's right. I saw Jim last night. Saw Peyton last night as well. You know who was running drills out there? Quite a night. Late night. Who's that?

Carly. Carly was running drills out there. Yeah. She's coaching up AR. She had pads on, didn't she? She had these golden cleats on. They were fucking awesome. Yeah.

I fucking love it. At the beginning, I often wondered, is this going to work? How will this work? It's going to work. Shane Steichen don't care. Shane Steichen's like, yeah, I hope you hear this. What do you like here? She was out there running. I was loving it.

Anthony Richard won 11-11. Carly Ursae's running sprints and gold spikes. What are we doing? Your team's going to stink and your team's going to stink. We all know it. Anthony Richard won 11-11. Carly Ursae's running sprints and gold spikes. What are we doing? Your team's gonna stink and your team's gonna stink. We all know it. Lines. Colts had players

betting on the Colts last year. Probably negatively. That ain't gonna happen again. If they're smart. Which sounds like they're not at the moment. Look at the Colts. Third longest odds. That is tough. And we got a guy

who's been here that has got us to this point. This is hard for any Colts fan to be like, you know, like the National, you gotta pay your best players. It's like, agreed, but also we've paid everybody else that is

our best players and look at those odds to win a super bowl we're on our third coach in two years well it has been a shit show over here shifty's like thing of like hey let's get the etch a sketch let's wipe it clean we'll come like what yeah what if ursa is like okay yeah we'll wipe it clean and he fucking draws a six million on there and shows it to him? Is this good? Yeah. It's like Ursa. How about this? Eight?

Yeah. It's hard to do an eight on this. It is. 8.61 million. More than Dalvin Cook. There you go. Is that what you want? Dalvin Cook, pretty good player.

You want to start looking at what he did last year and what happened last year? Huh? Like that, it could get that petty. Yeah. Well, and couldn't they just do that for this year? Like, fuck the extension. Give them more money this year. And it's like, you want the extension?

Here, you got money. Who? They just did that. Somebody just did that. Somebody just did that. They turned, oh, Zach Martin. Zach Martin, yeah. Turned his last two years into guaranteed money.

Yeah. And they added like four million or whatever. Yeah, so just add to this year for him. And then if he plays well, he'll get it. What is it this year for him? I assume not much if it's the last year of a second-round rookie contract for JT. Can't be more than eight. And up in the Giants, you know, they added a little bit to his, too.

Saquon, yeah, they put that up to, what, 11 or 12 or something. Yeah, 11. Yeah, you can bump that up to 13 or 14. I mean, Eckler got bumped up to possibly, yeah, possibly that much. Yeah, that's an easy answer. Simple. Just do it for the one year. Just do it for this year.

I can read in the headline it says the total contract was four years, $7.8 million. This year is probably making like four. Yeah, this year is four. So double it. Bro, not even double it. Give them like 10 more. Make it like 14 million One year

And then we're fucking We'll figure this out At the end of the year And you know that He's gonna get paid If they're giving him That much money now That's an easy answer

Isn't it Yeah that is What they should do But when you don't Operate in good faith You know Is it a little bit harder To just give a guy

10 million bucks Just for the hell of it We just I mean Sala was talking To Woody Johnson Woody Johnson's like That's a lot of money. And Sala was like, yeah, that's why Joe and I fought so hard

because he's a great guy for you to pay him that money pretty much. Yeah, everything you love, everything about him. Yeah. You got to remember, humans are making these decisions. This isn't like Madden. Yeah. You know, this is human to human. Yeah.

Everybody says you got to keep business out of personal feelings. It's like, I've never met a human that has been able to do that. That isn't a fucking sociopath. Yeah. Oh, okay. You need to have zero feelings. Oh, I didn't know that was what humans are supposed to be like. Well, in this particular case, the most important thing in your life.

That's what men do. You just have no feelings at all. It's like, I don't know how to do that. I want to let you know, if that's what you're expecting out of me, you're wrong. You say something I don't like, I'm going to remember it. I'm going to think it is personal. I feel like I guess you have to be upfront, but the expectation that people are supposed to just,

oh, you called me a piece of shit. Oh, I'm not worth this. Okay. Yeah, you were just doing business. You don't actually feel that way. That was just a script that you wrote. Hey, no hard feelings, right? Yeah, we got it done.

It's like, fuck you. How about that? Yeah, I remember what you just said. Everything you just said and what you just did. It's impossible if you're an actual human to be able to do that. So with that being said, like, Jim, who I think he just donated. I'm not 100% sure. But I think he just donated like two million to some play

this offseason because they were doing a fundraiser for something that he was watching. He was like, I love that brother. He's a guy that actually does just try to give away his money as a billionaire. Just tries to give away his money. Now he's

taking his Lolita money out of the salary cap and he is putting that to his personal life to make a 747 a fucking flying aquarium. But it is like he pays. Yeah. He's paid five plus guys on the roster right now. Andrew Luck, $25 million to retire. Yeah, exactly.

Kelly, I mean Shaq, Leonard, Buckner, they extended when they got him. Let's just go back to Andrew Luck. And not that Andrew Luck and Jonathan Taylor are anywhere near comparable for what they did for how long they did it to the Colts because we're in the AFC Championship game and then we're back in there, Andrew Luck's rookie year. I'm not saying that Jonathan Taylor hasn't been great,

but when Andrew Luck's contract was coming up before anything happened with any of the injuries, Jim Mercy was like, he's going to be the highest paid player of all time, brother. Like, terrible negotiation. Like, he was coming out saying, yep, this guy's getting more money than anybody else on earth ever. That's like kind of how Jim is. Like, if you're one of the Colts,

he's going to pay you forever probably. So that's why the whole like, you need to pay me, you need to pay me. They're not paying in New York. They're not paying in Vegas. It's like, Jim's a little bit different than those fucking owners, I think. And that's probably why he feels so offended, too. Like, you don't think that I. Yeah, guy thinks I'm a cheapskate.

You don't think that I reward people? I mean, Edge. Look what I. He's riding in the car with Edge at his Hall of Fame. And Edge didn't even finish. In Indy. He was in Arizona. Yeah.

And then he got him a Phantom. Incredibly generous. But remember, he had to say it about Andrew Luck because you put that tweet out. I think the most part, this has got a lot to do with the agent part. The agent got to figure out a way to get in there and get it done. He needs a shit can, his agent. A new one. A lot of people in Indy are saying that.

If JT was to do that, I think everything that I said about how Colts fans feel, and now, I don't know how good of a business person this person is. I assume he's going to do great. And if they get a deal done, way to go. Interesting tactic, but way to go about getting a deal done. We are happy for you. But if he was to separate from agent, I think Indianapolis would be like, alright, we got our JT back.

Let's go ahead and do this. But he's got to be a bad agent if he can't even get four to five more million added on there. I'm quite sure that he would be back in camp playing for nine million and then the next year. Hey, we're up. Yeah, that's what they should do. But even just look at the only comparison, and it really isn't because he got a franchise tag, but Josh Jacobs isn't at camp, but he's not being a huge distraction.

The GM is saying, hey, we're going to get it done. It's not like Josh Jacobs is standing there on the sideline. They've got a new quarterback. It's not as if everything's the exact same in Vegas either. The Colts is different, but he's not there being a distraction. That's probably going to get done. JT feels like the only hold-in. That's not going to get a contract.

And he's coming off injury. Josh Jacobs ain't coming off injury. Josh Jacobs rushed for... Led the league. 1,600 yards. Yeah, it's pretty good. He had JT's year two years ago. Bingo. Last year. Yes.

Yeah, got it. All right, let's get... We hope JT gets paid. Get paid, JT. I hope he gets paid, but also, like, none of us think it's the proper way to go about doing things.

But none of us understand the situation probably as well as JT and his agent do, we will assume. I don't know. I hope he's back, though, because if we're cooking the Chicago Bears and joint practices and everybody's buying in and the culture is accountable.

You might be cooking us, but no pizzazz out of you guys. That's bad. That's because we're focused. Yeah, we're focused. This is practice. I mean, practice? I don't think so. Jalen Hurts and Miles Sanders in a read option

or Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor in a read option? I'll take C. Yeah. All of the above. Absolutely. That would be awesome. We'll be back on the other side with A.J. Hawk to break down more of the stuff happening around the NFL.

We do not have a guest in four minutes. No. Damn it. Sometimes, you know, when you call, just no one picks up. Or you just don't call and then it's just like, hey, sorry, they didn't pick up. Or you do call. Yeah. And then, oh, can't.

Okay. It's all good. Fair enough, yeah. Cool. That would have been legendary, though, fresh off his, if one fight, we all fight. Training camps are awesome right now. Yes. There's a lot of shit popping off.

There's highlights popping out of seemingly every single camp, every joint practice. Everybody looks good, and everybody's tough right now. I think we're setting up for a great NFL season. Joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and a man who's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Some would also say this guy's best friends with Aaron Rodgers. Some would definitely say that. Some would also say, this guy's best friends with Aaron Rodgers. Some would definitely say that.

Some would also say this guy beat COVID a few times. Yeah. Some would also say this guy drank his own urine. Those people would be wrong. He's never done that, but he's a father of 10. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Hey! What's up, you spiritual narcissist?

How you doing, bro? That's me, buddy. Is it true? I caught a little bit of the program. Carly Ursae is running routes out there at cold training camp yes gold cleats yeah so uh zito said that about practice and then when we just took that break there you know i was appreciative for zito elaborating on what he just said as well whatever you said that i guess she had gold cleats on she wasn't a full

dress because she is a proper and she is a fashionista. She looks at the top of her game all the time. But she was on the field during 11-on-11s. I would assume there's a chance that she was out there before in flats or some slides or some high-fashion stuff. Pick comes the other way. All of a sudden, got to move to get out of the way. So now with training camp, joint practices, she said, I need fucking six studs, seven studs.

I need them to be gold to match the outfit. And if they're coming at me, they're wrong. I'm coming at them. So I don't know if she lowered her shoulder or not or juked anybody, but I do appreciate the fact that Carly Ursae, who's the future owner of the Indianapolis Colts, is literally trying to learn as much as possible

about fucking everything in the building. What do you mean everything, Pat? I mean, she's on a sideline with a call sheet on her arm and a headset with a microphone on game days. This is ownership on game days down there. It's like, well, owner shouldn't be down there. And it's like, well, Carly's trying to learn as much as she fucking can about everybody's job. So whenever she becomes the owner, she can make better decisions. I respect that. Oh, yeah. But also, it is hilarious to think about an owner in cleats

on the fucking football field, AJ. I will tell you, too, George McCaskey was so jealous. I looked over. I saw him looking over. He was asking the equipment manager for, like, cleats. Where are my cleats? Can I get some hot tops? Fuck.

Can I get my fingers in here? I love it, AJ, but it is hilarious to think about. Seriously. How long until we start seeing some GMs, owners, front office wearing full pads just to really get a good feel for it? So we just saw Sean Jefferson last week. What's the dress of the day, guys? What's the dress of the day?

Oh, okay. And you see them going back to get their pads. Woody Johnson's like, is this shells today? Shells? Okay. I'll dress uppers. All right. I need my tights.

Imagine Woody out there running. Hey, Aaron, listen. You remember in that contract, clause four, you need to throw me one touchdown. Today is the day. You need to throw me the touchdown. A lot of big advertisers in here. A lot of finance people. Let's start working on it.

I'm going to run a little. You got it. I'm going to put it on you now, Wood. Okay, that's all right. I'm going to put it on you now, Wood. Break his arm. Putting on you, Wood. Imagine that.

Hey, Wood, this one's going to come. What if he throws a fucking dart on his back shoulder and knocks Woody down? Yeah. Boom. Killed him. Absolute. Let's talk about Aaron, though. Why is he putting Bakhtiari's name across his ass?

Okay? Everybody on earth is zooming in on his butthole now. Why is this happening? Why is Aaron doing this? And is this because he wants? David Bakhtiari is a New York Jet. And even though the Packers have said nothing of the sort that they would be open to trading David Bakhtiari, they're very highly paid and great left tackle,

who was seemingly healthy for the first time in like three years with his knee and everything. And Schefter just came on and said, I don't think that's real at all. But Aaron put Bakhtiari's name across his butt. What's he up to? And why are we zooming in on this guy's tush? That's a great question. I honestly don't know. It could be so many... Of course

he loves Dave and how he plays and everything, especially when he's healthy, but he easily could just be messing around trolling. You know how weird Aaron is. His sense of humor, he probably... I don't know. Either he really wants him there, or this is just a complete joke and he's messing with him. This just crossed my mind. Uh-oh.

So Aaron Rodgers is playing the IG story game. Okay. You know, he puts that picture up and he goes, ass looks pretty good. You know what I mean? Sure. Ass looks pretty solid. There's going to be a lot of people tapping on my ass.

So when they do that, let's just let them know that who I think is my ass, David Bakhtiari's profile pics. Okay. So maybe that's what it is. Maybe he's not like, need this guy cover my ass. You know, like left tackle. Maybe it was just like, this will be funny whenever people are trying to poke my cheeks. And then David Bakhtiari's face pops up.

There's so many. You're right. There's so many different things that this could be, AJ. Why are people poking his cheeks? Wouldn't they be zooming in on his cheeks? Yeah. It's tough on IG Story't zoom in on IG's story. Oh, it's a story. I got you. I took it as,

hey, Bach, eat my ass, because I believe it was... Did he have the mouth emoji? I didn't see it, but I believe I saw Bach last week said, it's really nice to finally have a mobile quarterback or a quarterback that can move a little bit. Oh, so maybe it was a kiss my ass. Yeah.

Because you tap on the name. Yeah, because if he would have put the kiss emoji with Bocciari, I think it would have been a clearer picture, but he's like, that's too simple. And the eat the ass, if you put like a spoon, then it would be okay. More like soft serve?

Yeah. Shark's mouth open maybe? Yeah. Alright. So what we're saying is we don't know if that means he wants to trade for Bakhtiari or the complete opposite. I mean, it's certainly possible. Also, you know, everyone's acting like this is, you know, breaking news.

You go back through Roger's Instagram stories for the last like two weeks, he's tagged Bakhtiari in probably eight to ten of them. Oh, he's longing for Bakhtiari. So this isn't the first time this has happened. They're pals, okay? They're buddies. And I think he is kind of trying to, you know, shove it to him a little bit, like,

hey, see this? I got the fucking crew here in New York. You remember what we were talking about? Just having weapons, having some say, having some fun. Oh, here's another IG story. Look at this guy. Yeah. You remember him? So much cooler. This guy's literally running every route exactly how we want it to be.

I'm telling him what to run. We're making up plays. So we'll call a play to some people. Then I'll look at Garrett. I'll be like, what do you want? Post? What do you want here? In the middle of games.

And then, boom, it's working. It's fun. This is fun. Yeah. Probably preparing him, too, for when they're all together. I'm sure at some point it'll be him, Cobby, and Bakhti and bakhtiarn he's like hey remember when we were all hanging out on the sideline and demarcus where was singing the national anthem like goddamn master because he did oh wait oh talk atari you if you want to get traded there every green bay fan would be

fucking pissed would you guys be pissed if bakhtiari was to be traded i assume you would because he's back to being healthy for the first time in a while. And I know LeFleur is already calling it Green Bay East, so I assume there is conversations behind closed doors by Goody and LeFleur and all the other coaches. Oh, they're just going to take, okay, is that how the Jets plan on winning? How would the Packers fans feel if that was even

being talked about? Even though Schefter said it is not being talked about at all, this is hypothetical. Yeah, I mean, if he is 100% healthy, most people would definitely be pissed, but I think there's also part of it where it's like you know he had the comments before the season started where you know he he didn't really like bash the front office but it kind of made it seem like he was like removing himself from the team and was talking about like the packers as like a different entity like he wasn't on the team so it's one of those things where it's like hey hey, if he doesn't want to play there anymore,

if he would rather be in New York, then so be it. But the Packers aren't going to trade him. The Packers aren't going to trade him. Coach fans are saying that about Jonathan Taylor, and I'm a bad guy for saying that. You don't want to be here and go somewhere else. Exactly. It's a non-starter.

It's not the same thing. You don't have a new head coach, new GM, but it is completely different because you don't have the guy who's been running the show for the last 18 years need an offensive line and a tackle though yes need that's big chemistry young qb like they they're not they talking about the packers offensive line being like good yeah like very good and if you want to find out about jordan love especially after they gave him like an extension for next season instead of picking up his fifth-year option. You probably want to have a left tackle in that division

too. Let's talk about some other things going on around the NFL that we've seen on the internet yesterday. Pittsburgh Steelers fans, 6 to midnight. There's a tight end who's bigger than your defenses, who can block the hell out of people,

who isn't scared to run. Yeah, he had some knee issues. He's 6'7", 280 pounds. The joints aren't always going to be perfect, but he's in the Steelers' culture, and he's making one-handed grabs on air like that. The internet went crazy. NFL Rookie Watch went bananas.

Now, this is a standard warm-up for basically any human in the nfl that catches footballs but whenever you see stuff like this tone gotta get you pumped up about the six foot seven guy on your team as opposed to another team i've been you've been ever since draft we've been pumped up to get him where we got him you know he's absolutely huge he's an extra tackle third round of third round third round 93 round. Third round. Yeah, 93. How confused were we draft night? Oh, yeah. Do you remember that, AJ? Oh, yeah.

I don't remember why. This guy's 6'7". Why he went so late? Was it all knee? They were worried about his knee? Yeah. I thought he was going to be in the first round. He's been fine ever since the pads went on.

He's been awesome. This tweet actually led to a mute because I just couldn't do it anymore. Sure. He's reportedly taking TE1 reps. Yeah, reportedly. Yeah, allegedly. Reportedly not, though, because mute is definitely the tight end one there. For now.

Yeah, I couldn't do it. They're saying 6'7". Yeah, reportedly not. Wasn't that what we were saying all draft night? Like, this guy isn't 6'7", though. Like, what are we even? Can't coach size like that. Well, you can't put him in the games, too.

That's what we did with Jelani Woods last year. Hopefully, you guys will have Darnell Washington on the field. No, they have Tomlin. And even though that is a routine catch for people that catch balls in the NFL in 2023, because of the gloves and because of all the work that guys get, catching footballs through their entire lives. Now, starting with jugs machines and like junior high,

as opposed to in the past, it's you see stuff like that though. And you immediately think to yourself, okay, goal line package, just like what they did with Gronk. We got a guy now. So although that's routine,

it's also great news that he has it in the bag. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's going to be similar to the Bills where Dalton Schultz plays inside and then Kincaid's playing. I think the same is going to be with Washington and Friar Muth. But good news. I was looking at the Colts depth chart.

Jelani's listed as the starting tight end. And no ball over there. That's what we're talking about. That's why we need the hoodie off the head from our best player and just participate that's right fuck that put put Jelani at running back what are we even talking about yeah you kidding me Anthony Richardson 6'4 250 yes Jelani Woods 6'7 240 boom would never work put Buckner at fullback they're running right at you I don't have to

break this to you but they're doing this right here. We're going with that guy. QB power right. Going low. You're going head, foot, right to thigh. Thigh. Oh, yeah. Yep, let the backers clean it up.

Can't do that outside the box. Oh, yeah. I will be in the box. I'll let AJ clean it up. Yeah, but right now, what we're saying is they know that that's how you're going to do it. They actually got Anthony Richards. You know how Tua's taking jujitsu? Yeah.

They got these guys taking knee kickboxing. Yeah. Oh, Samba 7. We're talking about Ben Askren. Oh, they just throw that right through your head. Tua's not the only one, by the way. He made all the quarterbacks in the room learn. Yeah.

They wanted to make everybody learn on the entire team, including the staff. They just won big role party? In Miami, they were like, holy shit, Tua looks great. We should all do jujitsu now. Quarterback, for sure. They're just rolling together? Yeah, that story's not about all. Who's teaching?

I can't remember who. I think it was the athletic. I think it was the athletic, but yeah, Tua basically brought it into the quarterback room in the first few days. They were just dumping the other quarterbacks in weird positions, and they were fucking falling on their heads and shit like that, but now they're professionals. So Tua just came in and bullied everybody,, they were just dumping the other quarterbacks in weird positions and they were fucking falling on their heads and shit like that.

But now they're professionals. So Tua just came in and bullied everybody. And they were like, wait a minute. This never happened before. Who are you talking to? He's like, got to come down to the dojo. Goes down to the dojo. And then everybody's just getting rolled up.

Getting rolled up. Yeah. In this year, exactly. If you're in group joint practices with the Dolphins, stay away from the quarterback department because you throw one of them right jabs that Michael Parsons throws to us, catching it with one hand

and then grabbing your arm Ronda Rousey arm bar. Just like in the middle of one of these joint practice scuffles. Like for instance, Michael Parsons threw some quick, hi-ya, hi, hi right there. Dak Prescott's watching. Hey, what is it?

63, to his credit, with the Guardian on. Said, why are you punching a guy with a helmet on? And then he gets blindsided a little bit from the side. Good scrap here. A couple big-time bombs. Hopefully Micah didn't break his hand there. But if he's doing that to the quarterback room in Miami, they're catching that thing and breaking his elbow, wrist,

and his dick at the same time. That is what jiu-jitsu is. And I appreciate the fact that the Miami Dolphins quarterbacks are all committed to that. That's smart. That's smart football. I've heard you. Unfortunately, I've heard you talk about when MMA fights go to the ground, you tend to turn it off and ask, hey, let me know when the next fight is on.

So if this is jiu-jitsu now where you can just grab an arm, break multiple bones and their shaft, I'm all in. I think everybody should watch it. Well, your heel's got to do the dick part. Your upper body's doing the rest. They got moves for it. I've rolled before, please, all you MMA people. I've been in there.

I tapped out six times in a minute. So what? I thought I was going to get ringworm. I was sweating all over this stuff. I mean, I was doing it, but the way they were setting me up to just break bones was absurd. It's scary how they can do it.

Yeah. I'm, I'm in full. I like, I'm in a pretty good spot. I've seen this shit UFC. I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing.

And then all of a sudden they just jam their knuckles deep in the side of my thing. And I go, Oh my God, you have to, this guy's touching my spleen right now. And I was like, bang up under my arm, of my thing. And I go, oh, my God, you have to. This guy's touching my spleen right now. And I was like, bang, up under my arm, the other arm. And I'm dead. We're tapping out for the third time.

I thought I had it, you know? It's a real deal. If Tua and the boys are getting there, I don't know if people are going to be joint practicing with the fucking Dolphins. We don't need cauliflower here coming into these joint practice fights, honestly. Not even joint practices. I'm worried about the Pacers' D-line now because Judon's going to come flying around the corner. No! Tua's going to throw the ball up in the air,

do all those things. Full sunshine situation. Yeah, break both his legs, catch the ball again, and then throw it to Tyreek Hill. Oh, like snowball. Bingo. Oh, here's a snowball coming.

Look at how soft that is. Look up, Judon. I'm going to get the ball. He's actually exposing both of his arms. Exactly, yep. I'm going to get the ball. And all of a sudden, Tua's jumping in sideways. Fucking leg around neck.

And then break both his arms off his body. And then Tyreek Hill's going to be so open. Wide open. And Belichick's going to be like, that's a personal foul. And Carl Sheffield's going to be like, on the quarterback coach. Okay, we'll protect your defensive lineman from Tua. Tong of a lower. Okay, Bill.

Yes, that's possible, I guess. Yeah, the whole – I mean, Von Miller should be worried. He shouldn't be thinking about Supergrass. He should be thinking about, holy shit, I need to learn more Thai or something. All right, that's cool. I hope every quarterback room starts doing that. They should. It'd be smart.

Kickers and punters need to do that too. Yeah. Yeah, you would never have a kick blocked again. They wouldn't rush you. Yeah, you have – one time you probably get one blocked because't rush you. Yeah, one time you'd probably get one blocked because it's going to be a little slow up if you're trying to set up an arm bar. Maybe kick boxers. The class for the punters is the old Giants punter.

Steve Weatherford. Yeah. Okay. Hey, I've been watching him. He's doing like 300-mile races or something like that. Yeah, well, that's the problem. You seeing that, AJ? Who?

Steve Weatherford. You know who. Oh, I mean,'s the problem. You seen that, AJ? Who? Steve Weatherford. You know who. Oh, I mean, I haven't seen a lot of his stuff, but he's usually running with multiple people when I see him. Yes, multiple people flanking him, and he has 0% body fat, sweet Fu Manchu. Unreal.

A mullet. Blonde. And he looks like he is the largest long-distance runner in the history of humans. Because normally long-distance people are trying to lose weight. This guy's a vanilla gorilla. Yeah. Just absolutely jocked and strapped.

Still so flexible, too. Well, that's because he does funk jitsu. Yeah, he's got a lot of Tiger K in him. He's got conviction. And that's why I don't think you want him talking to punters, because if he does, there won't be punters in the NFL anymore, because they'll just join him. Let's talk about tonight's preseason game. I don't think what you just said was accurate.

Tiger King? He's currently in jail. His personal life is one thing, but the way he got all those people to buy in to what they were doing at that zoo while everyone knew he was still smoking crack. I don't want to move in, but you just talked about jail and a show. It reminded me.

I don't know if you guys saw it. I saw it last night. It came out around 3 a.m. Todd Chrisley will not be in the new. Oh, they're not doing jail visits? No. It's not going to be conjugal Chrisley? No.

He is excited for the new show, but he will not be in it. Did he write that or did he say it? I don't know. Did they have like a prison recording? Remember like Lil Wayne came out of jail with a song? Yeah. Who else? There was somebody back in the day that actually put a verse through a jail phone and they put it on. R. Kelly did.

Yeah, your guy. R. Kelly had a song come out from jail. Remember that? I said back in the day, not currently, you know, back whenever. Six months, nine months ago. I guess that in the day, not currently. You know, back whenever. Six months, nine months ago. I guess that is a day that's back. Yeah. On his birthday, I think, January 6th. He put that song out?

Yeah. Kelly's birthday? No, your birthday. Shout out AJ Hawk. Hawk alone. They ran a riot in Capitol. Yeah. For AJ's birthday.

It's the freaking weekend. It's just a dust object that we own. I love it. R. Kelly, bad guy. Terrible guy. Once again, have to mention his name so that people remember. Bad guy. Bad guy.

Look out. Even though there's people right now saying, they're making jokes of R. Kelly. Did they see surviving R. Kelly? It's like, yeah, we did. Bad guy. Look out. Even though there's people right now saying they're making jokes of R. Kelly. Did they see surviving R. Kelly? It's like, yeah, we did. Sure did. Yeah. He's a bad guy. Yeah.

Remembering people that are bad guys helps to not create more bad guys. Remembering that there's bad guys in powerful positions, very powerful positions. Yes. Very recently. Good to remind people. For sure. Yeah, just to keep your very recently, good to remind people. Yeah, just to keep your head on a swivel out there. Just because someone's in a powerful position doesn't mean they don't

piss on people in closets. Don't get too comfortable. Poop through hammocks. If we don't learn from history, we are bound to repeat it. Thank you. Who said that? Truman? Eisenhower? Julius Caesar? A couple people. McAfee, the anti-virus guy. McAfee said it. Thank you. Who said that? Truman? Eisenhower? Julius Caesar? A couple people.

McAfee, the anti-virus guy. McAfee said it. No, he said I've never seen him. He's fucking McAfee. I've never liked that guy, but it's certainly not pronounced that way. You know that. I thought maybe his was different. I don't know. You said you guys weren't related, so you are? We're not related. The name is the same.

I'm sorry. Are you related to every fucking Hawk out there? Probably. Maybe, I would imagine. I hope I'm related I'm sorry. Are you related to every fucking Hawk out there? Probably. Maybe, I would imagine. Yeah, I hope I'm related to Tony Hawk. Are you related to Tony Hawk? Have you ever met him? You guys kind of got a similar... Yeah, you guys could be like long-lost brothers,

like McConaughey and Harrelson. You ever try to do a holly? Maybe you just got it. No, I do have my little electric skateboard. I've been talking to Mitt about my... I got an electric longboard I was riding around last night. You've been talking to Mitt about it? How is that?

Is Mitt a longboarder? Is that why... that why he was he said him his buds used to ride those around in high school they're very easy to ride though yeah and remember he had to do full leg reconstruction because of uh one night on a skateboard not too long ago so ajc's counsel for mid a lot i mean we saw him uh at the super bowl this year he didn't know what a cover two defense was admit you know laid it out for him pretty clearly. My favorite Mitt moment was whenever he told me that the Duke coach of the lacrosse team had no idea what the fuck he was doing.

Stupid fucking play. It never works. It never works, bro. So fucking stupid. He's getting more and more confident. Personally, I love Mitt. The boys, not everybody necessarily loves it because there'll be a conversation happening. Mitt will interject with certainly a thought, not a fact,

but place it as a fact, and then he'll kind of disappear, which I love. I enjoy that type of stuff. There are some people that are like, yeah, can't do that. Can't do what you just did. Limited. Trying to shape him as a human, and I just think we're, that ship has sailed.

Yeah. Long gone. Let Mitt cook. He's a wild bull. You've got to let him run. Don't, don't. Shut the fuck up, Mitt. Yeah, Tone.

Who? Tone, well, granted, Tone does have Mitt, like, in his ear for Hammer Down. He does. So that is certainly a different relationship. Absolutely. You have Zito with the does, and Tony has, oh, I've got a good take on this. Bullshit, Tony. That's fucking wrong. Bullshit. Oh, sorry. I got a good take on this. Bullshit, Tony. That's fucking wrong.

Bullshit. Sorry, I was talking in your ear. I wasn't talking over the phone. Bullshit, Tony. He taught last Super Bowl in Arizona. He sat A.J. down for an hour and a half and taught him NFL defenses. So I like that type of confidence. You can imagine what comes out.

Yeah, that was when I was trying to figure out. Go ahead. First off, to Mitt's defense, I was asking him questions about his dad and the coaching tree that his dad came from, so Mitt was letting me know all the different coaches his dad has coached with in the schemes that they ran.

They were having a much more advanced football conversation than you could comprehend. I know, I know, I know. Don't sound like that, Tony. When it comes to X's and O's, I always bow down. To Mitt? Yep. Mitt loves the new Madden, by the way.

Okay, let's dive into this. So we talked about Madden the other day. We are one of the only platforms at this exact moment, and I don't know how it will be going forward. I assume it'll remain the same where we have no connection with the Madden people. At all. I didn't join the NFLPA the last four years of my career was not in Madden.

So I don't play Madden. We have no connection at all. So we have a little bit more of an ability I think to actually talk about what's happening in the Madden world. Not me. I don't fucking know video games. But there's people that we have here

that play a lot of video games. Whenever they rolled out the early release that was 20 bucks extra to buy so you could get it and the world was upset that you could only play quick play, I questioned why that would be a good decision by Madden to let people pay more money for your product

and then give them a shitty product knowing that the world is going to talk about how bad it is we properly did that the next day yes we said boy this game is terrible but now as it's kind of unrolled i hear there's a little bit of a a change in tide and i told you all that at the beginning and say this ain't us pandering to madden yeah i do not give a fuck if madden likes us as you know but i do know that the madden community is a very passionate one and you're involved in it we're in a good spot from what i've heard yeah and see what you've just said just to kind of reiterate that whenever we don't have you know any sort of affiliation with the company i typically would love to say negative things about them so i was going in to madden 24 like boy i hope this

sucks because if it does it's going to be so fun to rip on it but it is by far in a way the best madden they've made in a long time. Not only just like this, I mean, that tackle is absurd, but not only just the throwing in the running of the football, like it's just much more fluid. Like it does feel as though a lot of the plays could actually happen in a real game. And I know they don't have the updated Cardinals jerseys and they don't have new stadiums completely right. Like I was hoping that the Patriots stadium was going to have the massive board, and they don't have that yet. That'll be an update.

All the little glitches that come out now, those are supposed to happen so that when the game is officially released on the 23rd, they can fix that stuff. But gameplay on its own is so much better, offense and defense. Tackling is so much more legit when you're running the football as a running back, way better. When you're throwing it as a quarterback, it's better. And when the receiver's tight ends, even sometimes safeties, catching the ball is even more natural.

So there is nothing I can really say negatively about the game just because they have improved the gameplay itself, which is the most important thing. Which is all you're allowed to do right now, too. Yes, and that is the only thing that matters. People are bitching about the looks and different stuff. It's like, I don't think we're completely grasping what we needed from Madden, and that

was strictly for the game itself to be better, and that's what they did. It is by far the best Madden. I mean, we were going through some of the old ones. It might be the best Madden since Michael Vick was on the cover in 2004. Hey, congrats on the Madden EA. They did a great job. They were taking heat.

A lot of heat. The first two days was... You play? You play Madden? Yeah, I play. Good player? I got 10 kids in the house. You know I got to play.

Oh, yeah. You got to be good too, right? Because they can't just cook you the whole time. Yeah, I got to be decent. Hey, first day of school for the whole house. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good luck out there.

Yeah. Go get them. Happy. The Jones house is all at school right now. So that means his wife is out at the gym doing her thing and obviously Pac posted a new workout she created on a stretch machine this morning

which is certainly comedic but whole crew going to school and that guy on the far left is committed to Ohio State. He has his first football game tonight, right? High school football starts tonight? Yeah, high school football starts tonight, Cincinnati. We play – who do we play?

I forget who we play. It don't matter. It'll be a good game tonight. The whole city coming out to see it. Shout out to Woodrow. Let's get this W tonight. Yeah, good luck. Hey, good luck to them.

I assume there will be some website we can go to to watch that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Because – They stream most games. You can go on luck to them. I assume there will be some website we can go to to watch that. They stream most games. You can go on and find them. My question for you AJ, is Thursday night football in Ohio? What are we doing here? We're just trying to separate the games? I don't know. Pat could tell you. I don't know if they play all their games on Thursday, but maybe it's just

a kickoff weekend thing. I know they're playing Thursday, Friday, Saturday someplace. Yeah, this is the kickoff weekend for Cincinnati Public Schools. This will be the first public school game. So this is the big game of the week this week. And then they got a big game Friday, then a big game Saturday to kick off high school. So they're next Friday that they'll play? Yeah.

Okay, got it. Smart. Smart decision by the team, too. Yes. Let's get an early look at this thing. And then also, we got what? Eight days. Eight days.

That's right. Next game, almost a little mini bye week the boys got. Yeah, absolutely. You know what I mean? Let the boys get a little mini bye week week the boys got. You know what I mean? Let the boys get a little mini-bye week. Hope they win. How's Centerville Elks this year over there? We'll see. Their first game will be tomorrow night. I don't know. My buddy's coaching. He took over

his dad coached for a long time. He took over four or five years ago. He's doing a good job. Hopefully they're good. It all depends on your classes. They know from now how high school coaches can be like, hey, our seventh grade class is going to be good once they get up here. Like, they know leading up kind of where they're at. Plum had a great junior high team.

Oh, yeah? Mm-hmm. Plum had a great junior high team. Everyone stay and, like, go through the high school? How do you know that? Because I was in the junior high whenever they were playing, and they were good. And then high school feels like other teams maybe evolved their bodies

a little bit more than the plum kids did. Most of the kids who played junior high stopped playing before high school. See, we've got to keep those kids in. Really? Which is why the We're All Mustangs Here fund is even around. Because there's a lot of opportunity to not do sports in some towns. But usually if you're playing seventh and eighth grade, you continue. The problem was Nick quit.

Nick was running the streets. It's a problem. We had two leagues and all the offensive linemen, D-linemen came from the junior high and all the skill players came from the other league and all the offensive linemen, D-linemen quit. That was tough. Yeah, it's tough. It's the way it went. Not necessarily predicting

out state championship from the 7th and 8th grade level in our school, but I do appreciate the fact that you were able to do that at Centerville and hopefully the boys will get some wins. Want to let everybody know, the Plum Mustangs, though, are about to run wild this year. Brother, they normally do. And we're the World Tigers. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You think they're going to be good this year?

They're going to be real good. Got a quarterback that can throw the ball to the 6'6 kid that's a junior? We got a quarterback that can throw the ball. We got three, four good receivers. We got a good running back and defensive while we stick. Who's the team that I went and watched Chase Herbstreit play for over there? St. X. St. X.

We got them. We have four, I think. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck to you guys. I've seen them boys play. They were young. They were really good.

They were young last year, too, playing against clearly older guys. And they were still – that team feels like they got the gut sack to kind of go and build it. St. Nick's is always good. Powerhouse. They are in the top in the nation. I think they ranked, what, 15 this year. But they were really good.

I think last year a lot of sophomores and juniors played. Yeah, and they have some massive DN tight end who clearly bigger than everyone on the field, and he was still only a sophomore or something. Yeah, but then – Tight end. But, yeah, they massive DN tight end who clearly bigger than everyone on the field and he was still only a sophomore. Yeah, but then... Tight end. Yeah, they had a tight end who was incredible. Big, big dude. But they were playing... I forget what team was that they played in playoffs

that I went and watched. Do you remember? Man, was it Elder maybe? It was the other team that had a sophomore quarterback who was also great. No, that was earlier in the year. The playoffs they played a kid who looked like he was actually 22 years old. The whole team was just like, they had a running back. I think he had like three touchdowns, 180 yards.

I don't know. Damn. Was it Wynwood? Which one is it there? November, October? I don't think it was Wynwood. There it is. Archbishop Moeller.

Moeller. Oh, yeah. Moeller, yeah. Go to the box for him. That kid there is going to Michigan State. He's a senior this year. He is a dog. Jordan Marshall.

Running back? Yeah, Jordan Marshall. Four-star, I think. Yeah, he... Four tuds. Bro, we're talking... Yeah, we're talking wow scoring, too. Living.

Yeah, he wasn't even... Dog. He's a dog, but the kid from Wynwood... That was my first time watching high school football last year. I would travel with Herbstreet to go watch his son. It's sweet, right? The big, big high school football. It was really cool.

Need Jumbotrons in there. So AJ, let's start donating them. Pac-Man, donate a fucking Jumbotron. It's only $35 million. But you also need a film crew, though, Den. You need multiple cameras and then to run replays, too. These refs need checked. You know, that is – these high school refs, that was my biggest takeaway,

is if I had – which I didn't at the time. I didn't know anything about football other than I watch, I kick it, and here we are in high school. But, like, if I was a coach in high school and I had, like, good football IQ and I was passionate at all, it would be hard not to fight these refs, like, every single week. Now, I know there's probably great ones out there, but I've seen some calls made that were, like, clearly wrong,

and then the ref's, like, rubbing it in, like, the player and coach's face. Like, don't you talk to me like that. No, no, you want to? And it's like, there is no accountability. That was a bad call. That was a terrible call right there. So that was my big takeaway, other than like, this is awesome, the stadiums were packed, and then immediately like,

we need to be checking these stripes here. And I think that's just strictly because I'm an asshole. No, it's natural now. You see the play happen, you're like, oh, did he catch it? He got both feet down, and you instantly look to the scoreboard to see where the jumbotron is. And if you're at a high school game, you're thinking, it doesn't matter. He called it a catch. It's a catch.

And our IQ for football is so high. So we can see it like I think two seconds before some of these fake-ass refs can see it. Yeah, I agree. And, no, the refs are giving their time on a Friday. They can do it right. Not an easy job. Once again, not an easy job, but you're a ref.

You signed up for it. But literally, I think it was the first, like, two quarters I was watching this game standing on the sideline, and, like, something happened. I immediately, like, looked, like, too aware of where a jumbotron would be. Like, as I'm watching it happen, I'm like, there's nothing. All right. So I think he was in.

Am I going to help make this call? It was right in front of me. I think he was in right there I going to help make this call? It was right in front of me. I think he was in right there. No catch, no catch. Don't you talk back to me. No, I made those like the greatest catch I'm ever going to make in my life. Might get a scholarship from this. Nah, you're way out of bounds.

Give me the ball and shut the fuck up. All right. See you later. And I appreciate that type of stuff, but I can't wait. Hey, football season's close. I know. It's unbelievable. High school football tonight.

Preseason game tonight. Browns at Eagles, AJ. Browns getting three and a half still? Yes. Do we know any other information about who's playing for the Philadelphia Eagles? We know DTR is starting tonight for the Browns. He obviously has looked phenomenal thus far in a very short amount of time in the NFL. So obviously that could be beginner's luck,

or it could be that DTR style of play is one that's great for the Browns, great for NFL football as a whole. I like the way he played. I like the way he looks. He's leading the team for the Browns. They had joint practice. I don't know how many starters are going to be playing for either side or players that are going to be on the roster for either side. I like the Browns plus three and a half. AJ, personally, how do you feel about tonight's game? Yeah, I like DTR. What is Philly doing? Anything? Any starters get any time? We don't know anything

about this. I want to see the Philly D-line. I want to see if that Philly D-line gets some time. Is Jalen Carter going to be playing? Definitely. He played in the first one and the starters He won't play a ton, but he'll make an impact. Yeah, if he's playing. How about him just, yup, this is what I've decided.

You know what I mean? That's what it looks like at a training camp. Hey, you know what? Yeah, going to have to move you a couple feet here. Obviously, I should be here right now, and this is what I do. Yeah, you're a grown man, huh? That's hilarious. Yeah.

All right. See ya. He looks phenomenal. Unreal. In fact. Hands, powerful, and then there's some – no, I'm not even getting into it. These Twitter accounts have been really popping off saying some dumb stuff. There was – yeah.

And we all know what happened with – it's very sad, incredibly sad situation around Jalen Carter, the dogs, their parade, a teammate passing away like in the middle of this entire combine process where he has to leave and actually go to jail in the middle of it all. It gets settled and handled. He's going to have to live with that emotionally forever. That's terrible. Now, obviously, it's better that he didn't die. That family has to deal with that.

It is so sad. But on the football field, they said this guy could be a guy. Then he shows up a little bit out of shape. His pro day looks real bad. Pro day looks – he's not even moving those rubber things at all. I told y'all don't worry. I told y'all. I told y'all don't worry about it.

You think any building, though, he becomes this? Or do you think like the – Any building. See, I personally think the Philadelphia Eagles that are like the Georgia Bulldogs of the NFC East with Sirianni, the way Sirianni, it's like a perfect situation for him as well. Not that like it wouldn't have been anywhere else, but like him dropping into that culture, I feel like is a perfect one. And the clips out of camp seem like it's kind of paying off quickly. I like that culture, but you could have dropped this kid in any culture.

Like, of course, all the big guys, they come in a little bit out of shape. He had a little bit more shit to deal with, but you could have dropped him in New England. You could have dropped him in Baltimore. You could have dropped him in Kansas City. You could have dropped him in Cincinnati. You could have dropped him in Tennessee. Man, this guy has the best film from college film.

I'm talking about, I went back and looked at it like three four times to figure out like all right uh in the last five years who can we compare him to nobody ain't nobody that's like him that came out of college that had the power just the quickness um um i can't great feet football like you and just a dog you know some people have a little bit of this and a little bit of that and don't have no dog. Got a dog and ain't got no feet. This kid got everything.

He's fun to watch. There was the report that he was dominating in the joint practices against the Browns this week, but then Deshaun said LOL cap. So I don't know if that's true. I did see that because that tweet had a lot of stuff in it, and he said LOL cap. And I'm like, can we be more specific for the hat? Like, are we putting the hat on A or on B?

All of them? On C? Like, how many hats? Yes. How much cap are we capping? Yeah, how much cap are we capping? For real, for real. Yeah, because there's X's.

Is it real cap or fake cap? His X wasn't X-ing. No, bingo. It kind of was an X, but it didn't clarify the full X. All the X's. So it was a little half X. I thought it was first X back, but it didn't clarify the full X. So it was a little half X. I thought it was first X back, but it wasn't his first X back.

I thought he came out of X retirement after the talent stuff to just say LOL cap. He's been retweeting. He's the first guy to retweet him signing a young kid's jersey or something. It's not him. He's certainly not reading his. Right. I don't think Deshaun Watson is reading his mentions.

No, I don't think he's reading. Probably not. But he's probably doing his exes. I don't think exes on Deshaun Watson's phone, personally. Really? I think he probably has somebody. I bet you it is. Ex-ex-ex.

I don't know. That's dangerous. I bet you it's on there. He is a mentally tough individual if he has that. Because you can mute anybody and everybody. And I have. And it's beautiful. I mean, that is one of the greatest.

Blocking people is awesome, too. Let's not get it twisted. Wish you could do it in real life. You know what I mean? Like, it would be a really sweet thing if you could. But if Deshaun Watson is spending his entire life just muting or blocking or trying to avoid what humans on X are saying to him, if he's able to do that and get back to form on a football field,

that's a great way to manage your time. I don't know how he's able to pull that off. If he just, oh, but it might be one of those people who whatever anybody says doesn't matter. Yeah. Sociopath. What do you mean? Like, we talked about this earlier how they go

you gotta keep personal feelings out of business conversations and it's like okay be a sociopath for the most important conversation of your life it's like that's very difficult to do but that is just kind of understood by people I think it's passed down

by the people that are normally the fucking assholes in a negotiation like can't be taking any of this personal now you're a piece of shit you know that nobody else will pay you anything near this we know a lot of other stuff too that we're kind of just overlooking so you're lucky for this right and it's like well i'd like to counter for this but fuck off come back later and then you sign a deal and it's like hey good deal that was fun i love you that was not fun you're a great player i actually heard a lot of things there that came out of your mouth. You know how they say drunk people's words are sober thoughts?

I don't necessarily think that's true, but negotiating thoughts seem to be pretty loud and clear right there, pal. I don't know how people do that. You know, I don't know how you're able to. That's tough for me, and it's documented. It's like baseball. We could ask Jet Passon sometime whenever he's on, but when they go to arbitration, I guess, like, they sit in in the same room and the team says, hey, you're worth 13 mil.

And they say, we're worth 30 mil. And they got to find a way to figure it out. That's somewhat of what arbitration sounds like in baseball. I don't know how they get over that. And then you just get back to it. I mean, I don't know. I wasn't able to do it. I'll tell you that. Literally, first conversation with somebody that was deciding on how much money I was going to make for the rest of my life with me and my family and everything. And the things that were said, I'm like, oh, I hate this guy forever. Oh, okay. I hate this guy forever. You can't let your personal feelings get involved.

It's like, did you hear what this guy said? Nothing personal. But you just attacked my person for the last six minutes. That's what you just did. Yeah, okay. This is Pawn Stars. All right, sweet. This guy's got a couple tweets here, you know.

Seems to be a bad guy here. It's like, wow. You don't fucking know. You get a chance to, do you get a rebuttal, though, to give it some stuff off your chest and say, hey, this is why I need more money because of all the downfalls that you have here. Nothing personal. With all due respect. Yeah.

These are some of the shit. Do you know this? Yeah. I actually got a powerpoint deck you're lucky to be here you need to put that away nothing personal it seems like the personal thing is only one way normally

hey nothing personal it's business it's just business you're creating a monster right now that is happening and you need to know it. But I guess there's some sociopaths out there that can just have terrible things said about them. And they go, hey, bygones be bygones. Deal.

You're right. We do it. But I don't know if Jonathan Taylor or Jim Ursa are going to be able to get there. I'm pretty worried about that whole situation. He's out of the building again for a personal matter. I don't know what it is. We hope everything's okay. But I laid out a lot of reasons why Colts fans are kind of

yeah, okay. Not every Colts fan. No. And I'm split on this as well because he is so good at football. Neither. He would be great for this offense. But there's a lot of shit that has happened that if they're able to just be like, yep, bygones be bygones, nothing

personal, let's move along. That'd be very impressive for me, for those humans to pull that off. But it doesn't feel like we're anywhere near that right now, AJ. No, the longer we go, too, and I understand he's away, again, for personal reasons, so you can't really – it's kind of separate from everything else going on with him. But it's getting too late, man. I know Shefty even said, like, we're getting close to the season.

No matter what you're doing, you've got to be in football shape. You want to be ready so you don't pop something early to come back. I think it's just negotiated. Yeah, I mean... Tack just asked how many days do you get for personal stuff, and it's like, I think that's just like a conversation, you know? But I understand that Schefter said there is a personal thing happening, and

obviously, we hope everything's okay as a human. Hope he gets paid. Hope everything's okay. But this comes right after he gets paid hope everything's okay but this comes right after like going out of state to get some treatment on an ankle in the middle of training camp and now he's away from it again it's hard as a conspiracy brain starts like going like well they're trying to keep him out of the building or they think him not in the building is a good thing although shepherd said actual ankle thing actual personal thing seems to be a

lot of coincidences in the middle of a situation that is brewing here where they're trying to build a culture and this thing is just here. So I don't know. I don't know how they handle it. But we thought earlier, Connor brought this up because we looked up his contract. It's like, can they not just say, hey, you're making $4 million this year? Now, you agreed to that in April publicly whenever we were potentially have money and negotiating period to do this.

You said you were going to play out the contract and everything like that. Now it's vastly different. Can't they just say, we'll give you $6 million more this upcoming season, make that thing $10 million, and then we'll see you at the end of the year? Do you think that has even been broached by either side?

It's possibly been mentioned, but maybe he doesn't want that. Maybe he's like, no, that's not good enough. And also, maybe the team doesn't want to give him that. Like, hey, with what's been going on the last month, I don't know. We don't feel comfortable. We want you to go out there and play. That doesn't feel like a –

Because if $10 million is available when you're going to get $4 million, and seemingly there's no other option. Even if you get eight – Are they setting a precedent, though? Are they trying to set some precedent? Hey, you can't do this? But even if you get eight coming off of an injury, when an all pro just got 10 and he was healthy,

like if you get eight, you should be, all right, let's go. Let's go and get this over with and show what I'm worth. And also you're a free agent after this year. So you can hit the market again. But if that's the only thing that's available, and like it's business is interesting, obviously, so you can hit the market again. But if that's the only thing that's available, and business is interesting, obviously,

and I'm not acting like I'm some fucking guru, but I've been in a lot of these conversations, a lot of them, a lot of negotiations. It's awesome. I enjoy it a lot. I'll probably get into it full time whenever I get older. Just the whole art of a deal. I know that's a book, but who you have to talk to,

how you go about piecing together a deal, that's a big part of a deal. I know that's a book, but like who you have to talk to, how you go about piecing together a deal. That's a, that's a big part of it all. But you also have to be in reality and not in what theory says. Theory says you should get paid this much, this much, this much. And theory is awesome, but reality is where we live. So if this is the only option and it's the best option, it feels like you're probably going to have to take that if you want to get this accomplished. But if you want to stand and say, nah, I deserve this, it's like, well, in reality, that's not available anywhere right now. Then you're just kind of yelling at a cloud

as opposed to doing anything else. So I hope there's a little bit more transparency in it all. I hope they're willing to kind of give on each side. But we go back to the whole sociopath thing. It almost feels like it's way too far gone at this point. And when do we just decide to potentially – But if they do – like that's cloudy as well. Like how do you – if you're going to trade them,

what are you going to ask for? There's no way teams are going to give you probably what you're going to ask for off the job. If you wait, though, if you wait until the season starts and then someone gets hurt, like there might be – What, just keep them away, though? Keep them away from the facility? What do you do? Yeah, if you wait until the season starts and then someone gets hurt, just keep him away, though? Keep him away from the facility? What do you do?

Yeah, I don't know. That's where you keep him away from the facility once the season starts. He has to be there once the season starts. And then if you think about trading him, we know what the market is right now. Who is going to give up? Saints, I guess, right? What do you think they want for him? What, a second-round pick or a first-round pick?

Nobody's giving that up right now. We've got to look at whoever was looking at Dalvin and Zeke and Kareem. Jets were in the market for a running back, clearly. Patriots were in the market for a weapon, it sounds like. That's how Schefter described it. Kareem is a running back that has left. He was in New Orleans and Indianapolis. In Miami, I guess?

Miami, but they've kind of come out and said, hey, with Jeff Wilson and Mostert and then also the rookie they got, they're pretty comfortable. So that's who Ballard would have to negotiate a deal with is either the Saints or the Dolphins to make this happen? Personally, I would think it's a lot more teams to have because he's a different running

back than especially Kareem and Zeke. So you think people would look at their running back stable and say, hey, we can get Jonathan Taylor are we doing that yeah I think so okay hell yeah and like could you imagine and hopefully it doesn't happen again this year but like let's say the Niners are bit by the injury bug and they say you know what let's just go and get Jonathan Taylor because with the running scheme that we have hey can you throw? Yeah, sweet. You're Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, boom. For $27 million less. But Jonathan Taylor's going to want to deal anywhere he goes.

You think? Yeah, you have to agree to a deal when you trade him, though, right? These running backs, when you come off injuries, you got to go prove that you can be all right. That's a tough sell. That is a tough sell. I don't think he knows that's the situation. That is.

You're listening, buddy. When you get hurt, you're running back. He's definitely not. He's not listening to me. People are mad at me for even saying this because I'm normally so pro player. I am pro player, but also, like, this feels dumb. Yeah, every running back has to go through this. This feels like a bad decision.

Not even running back. If this was any other position group where this was happening with the state of the Indianapolis Colts I think you would have to say the exact same thing like if it was a tackle a left tackle while this whole thing's happening it would be uh it would be a conversation if it was a wide receiver like your star wide receiver doing this while you get a new quarterback new coach new offense new energy new, missed the fucking free agency window where a lot of money was available for all teams pretty much. Like, I think any position, they'd be like, yo, this is not conducive to a deal being made, we don't think, the way this whole thing's going.

But maybe it is, and maybe we'll be wrong again. Which is why you would almost, like, I mean, he hasn't had him for that long, I don't think, but it's like like he's a different guy with this representation. Like, it's just simple to see. Like, he was not this guy when he first came in here, and then that's why it's like, so if they do offer him more money and it's like $8 million, is that even going to do anything? Because they were asking for $16 million. Like, is his agent going to get into his ear and be like, we're not taking fucking $8 million.

We're not doing this. We're going to be steadfast in what we wanted you're not going to play we're still going to bang the drum that we want to be traded like if he were to dump this guy and get a new agent who represents a bunch of nfl guys is there a chance that they actually can wipe the slate clean and get something done go ahead running backs and the running backs have to get their money and get it. The less amount of game reps that is per position is running backs. The longest career are not running backs. They are probably the shortest. When you go to tackles, guards, quarterbacks, receivers, those careers,

you know what I mean, they willing to spend more money because those careers are going to be 7 to 10 to 15. Running backs, if we can get six, seven years out you, we pretty much did our job. That's exactly what the Colts should be thinking too, though. It's like, yeah, he is 24 and he's really fucking good. So if he is going to have a great year. Maybe a two-year deal. Yeah, even four.

I mean, we can take this kid to 29. Maybe a two-year deal. Yeah, even four. I mean, we can take this kid to 29. Or a two-year guarantee. Yeah, dude. That's what happened. That one year, it happened with Derrick Henry. I can't remember who else. But it was all four-year deals with two years guaranteed. There's so many different ways to view it.

Like, if they want 16 and they're offered 10 or 8 for this upcoming season, and they say no to it, that means that they think they could get 16 somewhere else. Yeah. Because the whole thing is like, when you give your number and somebody counters you that means they disagree with your number everybody just assumes that like hey they're gonna counter you're gonna have to battle but the way that it was kind of shaped to me one time uh from a great business person is like hey if they counter you they disagree with your number so protect your number pretty much is what this person told me when i was going in there protect your number protect it have things ready go for it and because i just assume like i'll say this

they'll come in here and then we'll just meet in the middle and then lombo was like do not go in there yeah this is my number and now granted you can only do that if there's other people yeah if there's other people you can do that if there's other people. Yeah. If there's other people, you can do that. If there's only one thing, all of a sudden, they're protecting their number because that's the only number. You're not the one in charge of the number anymore. If you want something done, it's them. So they must think that they can get 16 somewhere else. If they think they can get an Indianapolis, you would think and assume just like at the most basic business principles and thoughts.

Yeah, but that's the most asinine thought I've ever heard. Like, look at what is happening with the running back market. The franchise tag has gone down. It's impossible to get $16 million as a running back. Yeah, but maybe he does. It's almost impossible to get a sale, mate. Yeah. Well, that's where ego comes in, too.

So dumb. Well, I'm different. I'm a different guy. They've seen what I can do. Which he is. We agree. Which is why it's like, bro, where ego comes in. So dumb. Well, I'm different. I'm a different guy. They've seen what I can do. Which he is. We agree. Which is why it's like, bro, come on, man. Got to deal in reality.

You said it right. Yes. You got to step back and look at what the reality is. Hey, yeah, this does suck. I'm not probably getting what I deserve, but I'm playing football, hopefully. Yeah, and getting paid. I'm getting paid. And we'll be a free agent soon and hopefully go get that monster deal from somebody else maybe.

In theory, everything's awesome. You know? But then when you get to reality here, it's like, hey, this is reality. Whenever we were shopping, talking to networks about the show, first offer was a very low offer from someone. And I was like, oh, fuck. Did I make the bad decision here? You know, I was like, whoa, this is going to be tough.

Worst offer that we got. Good people. Don't think they have a clue, but it was... Good people. It was about like an unacceptable offer, like from me. And I'm like, all of a sudden,

theory in my head was like, should be able to, this should be pretty basic. This is what I'm asking for for us pretty simple and then that first company comes back and it's like different i'm like oh nobody is reality a little bit different than what you and then the next company like less than 12 hours later sent an offer and it was like okay thank god reality is still the same all right i i. I thought that was the case. I hoped it is.

But that was a conversation I had to have. I wonder if Jonathan Taylor and them are having that at all right now. Like, hey, we're kind of shit out of luck here. He's saying he's not going to trade us, so we're just going to sit here and take $4 million this year? But if you're out,

they can probably get around that. And kind of reality is saying this is what reality is. When do they get to that point? And what is the reality in a week from now versus today? I guess we shall see. Does anyone want to be a free agent with Austin Eckler and Saquon Barkley, who are both probably going to be free agents too? Jonathan Taylor is different.

Yeah, he's younger too. He was loved here, AJ. I know. He was awesome. He was awesome in college. He scored 7,000 touchdowns, I feel. I was like, I had Lucas Oil when he was in college.

Don't count him out yet, man. Bro, his legs were this big. He's just so fast. He was at 28s everywhere. Everywhere. This is the guy. Holy shit. We don't know what's going on quarterback, obviously, but offensive line, Jonathan Taylor.

Introduced last year. Yeah, last guy out of the tunnel even when they just traded for Wentz. And Ryan. Yeah. Cool. It's tough. Hopefully they'll get past it, right? Bygones will be bygones. They'll get it done. I don't think they will. You know why I think it will? He have no other choice. He ain't going to sit out the whole year. I don't think they will. You know why I think it will? He have no other choice.

He ain't going to sit out the whole year. But I don't know if he knows. It's been done. Who did it? Le'Veon Bell. Guess what happened? The career has never been the same. And he still got paid, though.

He did get paid. But he even said he regrets it, though. Didn't Lev come out and say he shouldn't have done that? Yeah, but did he sit out at 24? No, he sat at 29 or 30. Yeah, three albums. Good point. He sits out at 24. I'm just said it at 29 or 30. Yeah. Three albums. He said it's out at 24. I'm just saying a year out of football. He just

didn't play, but how many games did he play last year? 11. He played 11 games last year. Well, it doesn't accrue a year, right? Yeah, he played four. Yeah, non-football injury somehow. There's a way, because remember that was a little part of the toxicity of this entire thing.

Just bump it. But to your point about if Bakhtiari doesn't want to be a Packer, like, cool. Let's trade him then. Let's move on with people that want to be here. That's kind of modern sports now. Everybody kind of has to view it that way because players have a lot more say. And Jim Irsay's like, meh, no say.

Not doing it. Irsay? I say. I say what this whole thing is. Irsay, I say. I say. I say what this whole thing is. Level was 26 when he set up. So at 26, he wasn't thinking that. So at 27, he came back. Yep.

Yeah, but he also didn't start thinking it was a mistake until how old is he now? 31. Yeah. Yeah. Four years removed. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Come on, JT. Let's do this. Come on, Irsay. Come on All right. Come on, JT.

Let's do this. Come on, Ursae. Come on, Chris. Come on, boys. Let's figure this out. What are we doing, Chris? Anthony Richardson will need it. We spent a lot of time

on the Colts today, but it is a lot of bullshit with one of the best players in the league, although we have the third longest odds to win the Super Bowl, which leads me back to the point.

Team's in a bad spot, Jonathan. And that's still kind of the biggest news in the NFL right now. Because there's just, like, with Bosa, it's like, okay, we know he's in a bad spot, Jonathan. And that's still kind of the biggest news in the NFL right now. Because there's just, like, with Bosa, it's like, okay, we know he's holding up. Like, the deal's going to get done. Like, there's no progress with this. And the running back market has been one of the bigger stories this entire offseason.

Oh! That may be A.J. Hawker right here. The toxic tables here at Boston Corner. Nat Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, Tony Diggs is here. And 14-year NFL vet. Looking really sweet and fresh in an orange jumpsuit.

Pac-Man jokes. I try not to wear all orange out. You know, because people are like, look, that guy got a hunt. You know what I mean? Or look at that guy fresh out of jail. But, like, you look so good today. Sweet. So swagged out with the glasses, two

pack. Really brought your fastball here on this Thursday. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Yesterday you caught four punts, obviously in the Thunderdome one-handed and won 20 people $500. We appreciate you doing that. It's been an incredible week. There's a lot to talk about. There's a football game tonight and there's things happening around the NFL that we need to discuss.

For instance, Joe Mixon heard a judge say this morning, not guilty. Wow. That's pretty big, man. I saw him in court in the middle of training camp. And I thought to myself, he has to be so fucking uncomfortable. Just that is the exact moment you don't want to have happen. If you're in the NFL, you don't want to be on everybody else's big screen around the NFL. Hey, don't be this guy. What's this guy doing? He's in court right now and he can't be a training camp. Why is that? Well, he's involved with a gun situation and some fuckery

and everything like that on the road and just don't be this guy. I've been that guy. Me too. Pac-Man's been that guy. Hey, don't be this guy. I get text messages from my friends that are on other teams like, hey, just want to let you know, now that I know you and everything, I was first introduced to you in our team meeting,

and it was your mugshot up on the screen. And I didn't know you at the time, obviously, but I thought to myself, wow, that guy got pretty fucked up, it looks like. And then our coach just basically undressed you as a human and told us not to be like you. That's what's happening to Joe Mixon when you're standing in a courtroom in the middle of training camp, and then whenever you hear not guilty, you gotta come

skipping out of that thing right back on the football field. Congrats to Joe. That's big news, isn't it? AJ, that's massive news. Huge news. I'm sure he is very relieved. They charged him with menacing? What does that even mean? Aggravated menacing.

They basically said he pointed a pistol at somebody, which was absolutely false as the judge found them not guilty. Yeah, that's an interesting, I didn't think the verdict was going to come that quick. I mean, I saw him yesterday. It was a trial. It was a trial. He took it to trial. Yeah, but I didn't know, yesterday I saw him standing there,

and then today I hear verdict. I'm like, is this how court works? Was it just a judge or was there a jury? Just a judge. Did he talk? Did he testify? Do we know? I'm quite sure he did talk. Oh, really? I would love to do this.

Lying. Your honor. Bullshit. I didn't do any of this. I agree, man. This is the quickest trial of all time. Get your ass back in the ring. We're trying to win a Super Bowl this year. Speaking of winning a championship, a man has the opportunity to do that

this weekend at UFC 292. Let's go. We're obviously a massive fan of this man. He's one of the most electrifying combat people that have ever existed. We got introduced to him during COVID whenever he showed up with his hair and his style and he couldn't knock the guy

out. He let him get back up because he had merch that he needed to sell. Let me knock this motherfucker out a different way. Then we saw him play bongos on a guy's face named Moutinho. And then we saw him win in a jujitsu rolling tournament just a few weeks ago. This guy is one of the most talented fighters on earth. He's also one of the most entertaining humans on earth you put that

together it's great news will he be a champion this weekend we shall see ladies and gentlemen sugar sean o'malley what's up dude what up boys where you at you in a sauna right now you're trying to lose weight are we in the middle of the weight cut what are you at? Are you in a sauna right now? Are you trying to lose weight? Are we in the middle of the weight cut? What are you doing right now? I'm in my bathroom, just kind of trying to find some good lighting. Hey, you look good. You look good. You need to know that you always look good, though. How do you feel? I need to hear that.

Appreciate it. Hey, how do you feel going into a fight, man? It's a title fight. We've been waiting for this. I mean, I think we talked to you like a year and a half ago, and you said, I trust Dana. I know he'll put me in a title fight whenever the time comes. I'm not going to get too crazy. Here we are.

We're two days before it. How's the body feel? I think you're prepared to be champion. I assume you feel the same. Yeah, 100% prepared to be the champion. I had to go over to Abu Dhabi, beat up a little Russian dude. That was the way to get to my title shot. So that's what I did.

Went to Abu Dhabi, beat up the Russian, came back to America to celebrate. And now we're going to Boston. We're in Boston. I'm in Boston right now. You know, I get to fight Aljamain Sterling in a few days. Still have to cut weight. That is not the fun part. But, you know, it's part of the game.

Okay, where are you at right now weight-wise? And how much weight will you cut? Because you're taller, obviously, for the Bantamweight division, which is 135. What are you trying to get to? Yeah, for the title fightamweight division which is 135 what are you trying to get to yeah for the title fight 135 on the dot so i'll cut i'll cut most of the weight tonight um and then i'll probably wake up and have to cut a few more pounds so you've come to champ though you're signing up to be 135 forever you know because you're undefeated now they have a number on that one slot which none of us fully understand what that is. But like 135, a lot of people are talking about changing weight class

because of how hard the weight cut is. Is it hard for you, or is it just a part of the process? Yeah, no, I think it's hard for anybody that cuts 15, 20 pounds. It's tough for anyone. Aljo is saying this is probably his last fight at Bantham. He's going to move up. But, yeah, for me, I want to stay down here for a little bit And I need to go get the belt and defend the belt a few times Before I can move up

Go ahead, AJ How much motivation do you have to go get that belt And then defend the belt because you get those pay-per-view points Once you have the belt and you're defending it Yes, that's what this is all about that's the goal the goal isn't to become the champ the goal is to get pay-per-view points and the way you get pay-per-view points is by defending the belt therefore being the champ is important but yeah this game is all for me i've been in the fight business since day one i got into fighting to become rich, sexy, and famous.

And not a lot of people do that. I did that. I'm in the fight business. That's what this is all about for me is making money. So I need to go out there, take Aljo out, and start getting them pay-per-view points. Okay, so you're super famous, right? I think we all agree with that. Super sexy.

You know what I mean? Sex symbol, I think some people are saying. And now we get wealthy. That would be check, check, check there. Dream since you were a kid. Yeah, I mean, I am balling right now. Don't get me wrong. I'm definitely not struggling at this point, but those pay-per-view

points really take it to a next level. Did I see you rolling in a jiu-jitsu match on the internet? How long ago was that? And I didn't expect that from you, right? Because everybody just sees you as this electrifying kind of striker. And then you were rolling with this guy, got his back, see you later, this thing's over. I love seeing that. Do you feel like you're in your best fighting form right now?

Yeah, I think that was 2019. I think that video just started surfacing around a little bit more as the fight got closer I did do a jiu-jitsu tournament and it was choking fools, but that was that was yeah, that was a long time ago You know, I don't like it. I like knocking people out, you know If I have the opportunity to knock someone out I choose that 100% of the time How do they we got lightning in both hands? Do we any merch already made for how this one's going to end? Any predictions, or what do we got cooking? We're always rocking the merch.

Yeah, we got the post-fight merch ready to drop. I do have lightning in both hands. That's one thing about me that's different than a lot of these guys. I can knock people out with so many different weapons. A lot of people with some, well, some people have a good right hand. Some southpaws have a good left hand. I literally can knock people out from both stances. Left foot, right foot, knee, other knee, we south paws, I have a good left hand. I literally can knock people out from both stances, left foot, right foot,

knee, other knee, weenie, whatever. I can do crazy things. Could you imagine you knocked a guy out with your dick? That would be crazy. Sick. You remember? A cup shot? I think that's legal.

Dude, the amount of hip thrust, you would have to be able to really. Yeah, skill. That would be impressive. Maybe choke him out. You know what I mean? Maybe it's a smother technique. Maybe that's what you need to do. I'll have to work on that one at the gym. Could you imagine your sparring partners?

Today, what we're working on, cup to the nose and mouth. I need to make sure there's no air going in there. That's how we end this. Teabag submissions. Yeah, teabag. Oh, the old Sugar Sean teabag. He's how we end this. T-bag submissions. Yeah, T-bag. Oh, the old Sugar Sean T-bag. He's got no air. I might stick to knocking people out the more

I think about that. Pay for a few points, though. Sex sells. I mean, something to think about when you become champion. You know, next fight, there's always room to grow. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Sean, obviously Abu Dhabi for the fight before, and now you're in Boston. Once you have that title, do you have any say on what city you would

like to defend it in first or is there a scenario that you've kind of pictured in your brain for where you would have that first title defense? Viva Las Vegas December. The Sugar Show defends his Bantamweight title. Dude, why don't you just push

that back to February and it's the Super Bowl. Yes. At the Super Bowl halftime show? That'd be sweet I heard Taylor Swift turned it down So Taylor Swift turns it down Sugar Shaw and O'Malley They wheel an octagon out there Oh my god, they'd be able to do that with what they're able to put out there

Best halftime show ever What about me versus Taylor Swift? I don't know if you want that She's a beast, bro Hey, she's a beast She's a beast, bro. Hey, she's a beast. She's a beast, bro. I know.

I know. That's why I'm up for the challenge. You would train? We know you'd be prepared. Is this new tat here? Or is that something from training camp? Um, right here? No, the other one.

Oh, it's just a little tattoo. It looks like a little black eye tattoo. I tattooed a black eye on me. See, I was about to say, that's the type of brain. That's the type of brain we need as champion. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Sean, just curious. I mean, I know obviously you're trying to go in there and knock Aljo out as soon as possible,

but is there any part of the game plan that changes at all because it is a title fight, like trying to get him into deep water in the later rounds or does nothing change? Is this just the same type of fight as, as you would have regardless if it's a title fight or not? Yeah. The only real difference obviously is it's five rounds,

not three rounds. This was my first three, first five round fight fight, rather. But I have to go out there and match his pace. I can't go out there and start slow against someone like Aljamain Sterling because if you let him grab you, you are in for a short night. So I have to go out there and match his pace. I can't really go out there and try to pace myself and say,

all right, this is a five-round fight. I have to go out there and match his pace. Okay, so what have you seen from him? Do you feel like this is a good fight for you? Do you watch film and strategize, or is it nameless, faceless, I'm going to do my fight and change it? Have you changed a bunch, or how does strategy play in with who you're fighting? He's obviously the champion right now.

He's probably the toughest matchup in the division for me. I would argue he's one of the toughest matchup in the division for me. I would, I would argue he's one of the toughest matchups in the division for anybody. He's the champ. He's the defense, the belt three times, the best guy in the world. As far as training for someone like him,

I've always trained for grapplers. That's always been like kind of what the other, the opponent's game plan is. Let's take Sean down, take her down. So pretty much same game plan. We've always had just against the best guy in the world. That's why it's so

exciting. I do believe, and everyone knows, I have the capabilities to go out there and put his lights out. That's what's so exciting about this fight. Hair looks sweet right now. Is this the final phase before fight, or are you doing anything different? No. I have a press

conference this afternoon. I'm going to get a nice fucking beautiful fat fro and then I'll get the braids, the cornrows before fight night. It looks awesome. It looks really cool. Thank you. I don't know how many different colors are in there

and how long it took. It took about seven hours. See, that's what we need. the hair seven hours that's training camp yeah we need that for entertainment pac-man's got something for you sugar what's up sugar um my question is i read a lot about john jones you got a lot of him in you um how much have you played for your career um to get you where you at or help you to be where you at right now yeah john jones is one of the greatest fighters of all time uh you know super

inspiring career especially for him to let take as much time off as he did come back and just you know do what he did so yeah watching john jones career playouts been uh super inspiring who do you who fights who do you think fights like you that has been a fighter before? I truly believe I have a very unique style. There's similarities of multiple different people. There's similarities in Izzy. We do have his very high skill level of striking. But even then, we're a little bit different.

So I really do believe I'm just kind of one of a kind. Yeah, and that's why we fucking love you. Go ahead, AJ. Sean, I don't know how much you've been paying attention to the NFL, but there's a quarterback in Miami, Tua. He had multiple concussions last year. It's been reported that he's been working jujitsu and possibly judo to try to learn how to fall.

Do you think that'll be beneficial to him? Could that help him yeah i mean learning how to break fall is as simple as learning just how to break fall by itself so i don't know if you need to necessarily do judo uh or jiu-jitsu you just kind of have to learn how to fall but i think it'll help him in multiple areas in just life in general jiu-jitsu is one of the sweetest sports in the world. But, yeah, I mean, ultimately I think it will definitely help. Yeah, we think there's a chance, you know, somebody comes around the corner, oh, shit, Von Miller, here he is.

And Von Miller accidentally puts his hand out to go for the ball and Tua just like breaks an arm. That's first quarter. Von Miller's out. Yeah, we got sacked, but that guy's dead. Like, that's what Jiu-Jitsu is, right? That's first quarter. Von Miller's out. Yeah, we got sacks, but that guy's dead. That's what jiu-jitsu is, right? That's my understanding. Yeah, that's basically

what jiu-jitsu is to the team. Alright. So did I get a... Yeah, black belt. No, no, I don't want... The black belt, I think you've got to go like the amount of beatings you've got to kind of no, I don't want the black one. The black belt, I think you've got to go, like, the amount of beatings. Take your lift.

You've got to kind of take. I don't need to do catch up on it. What's the first one? Just a basic-ass white belt? White belt. White. So you guys are saying, like, hey, it looks exactly like the robe, the gi that you're wearing. You don't even got a fucking belt right now.

That's kind of what they're saying? Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Are you, I assume you're just. Brown. Brown. It goes white blue purple brown black and that's in jujitsu yes kickboxing though you're home right yeah they don't really have a belting system in kickboxing but i'll uh i'll give myself a black belt hell yeah smart

what's past the black belt like a double? Like a double black belt? I think there is a red belt After even a black belt for 25 years Or something, I'm pretty sure that's a thing There's only a few of those guys Yeah, you have to earn that one That sounds like 25 years of just getting your ass kicked Or kicking someone else

Well, once you're a high level black belt You're not getting your ass kicked too much Depending on what room you're in Valid Oh, I went through a high level of black. You're not getting ass kicked too much, depending on what room you're in. Valid. Very valid. Oh, I heard you talk to who's a big, massive dude on the internet. Bradley Martin, maybe.

Oh, sure. Yeah. Who was talking about how, I think he had a thought that a lot of people who are athletic, big humans think, like you're fighting at 135 pounds. I was sixth grade. I think I was 135 pounds with how fat my ass is so a lot of people think like that like 260 pounds 250 pounds like 135 pounds these guys can't do damage and then you kind of broke it down to them like i'm gonna get your back at some point and it's it's pretty much over is there any limit to what those types of

mixed martial arts can take down if they're not trained like i should immediately and i don't think this way i don't want to fight anybody i get my ass kicked all the time but like other meatheads out there that potentially agree with that particular theory like that the weight means nothing at all in this entire thing and in public you beat the fuck out of every human you see, even at 135 pounds? Yeah, I mean, I walk around at 155. I'm not much bigger than 135, but I feel like I'm 20 pounds. But, yeah, what I told him is I wouldn't want to – he's saying in a street fight, who would die.

And I was saying, I mean, I wouldn't – you know, I don't like the odds of – I wouldn't like to get in a street fight fight with him but if it came down to who would die you know i would like i would have to be confident in myself because that's just you know that's how it has to be but he's a very very fucking huge human and he's very fucking strong so you know he grabbed the holding and somehow slams you you know there's ways to mitigate being slammed and stuff but uh you know that that big strong, I wouldn't like to test it. But I also, you know, would say that I might come out on the other end of that. But I like Bradley. I don't think that I'll ever get to that point. We're buddies.

And hopefully I don't have to street fight anyone that big and strong. Yeah, to the death either. You know, a street fight to the death with a buddy. That's tough. That'd be tough. That'd be some really rude people in charge, a buddy, that's tough. That'd be tough. That'd be some really rude people in charge. You know, which could happen.

That'd be very rude. I don't think I'd want to put anybody in that situation. Tone has a question for you, Sugar. Yeah, Sugar, I feel like when we've talked before, you've kind of got like a residency type thing in Vegas after your fights. Have you planned out the party in Boston yet after you went? Yeah, you know what? Boston kind of closes down around 2 a.m.

I'm not even going to make the walk until midnight, 1230. So by the time I leave the venue, it will be – Boston will be closed down. I got a beautiful suite here in Boston that I might participate in a party at. But it's hard to say, man. These fights can be brutal. And after the fight, you might not want to party. You don't know how it's going to go. these fights can be brutal and uh after the fight you might not want to party you don't know i was gonna go i got my jet waiting for me sunday back to phoenix so uh maybe the party happens a little bit later in the you know heal up have a good time but uh

yeah resorts world in vegas is usually my go-to spot at zoo but it's not uh you know we're not in fucking vegas oh you're in boston you know great city hey it's gonna be loud that building's gonna be loud i mean the pop that you're gonna get is obviously gonna be huge everybody's excited for your opportunity to get a title and if we pivot away from that ty just just mentioned something here and with a little sign there this celebrity boxing obviously you're close with because you are a man of the internet and a man that is beloved and i think you understand everything that's kind of going on in our world which we love and appreciate which is yet again why need you need you to have a title like we are

you know a lot of people pulling that way that you're our guy let's go get it but you you kind of stay in touch dylan danis and Logan Paul are about to fight. And I mean, that guy's Twitter is... I'm learning a lot about a lot who Dylan Danis is. And that fight, obviously, doing its thing. And then Jake Paul and Nate Diaz I think are going to try to do an MMA fight. Ultimately, I think

you'll probably have the same view as us. This is good for boxing, good for fighting, anytime there's a spotlighted fight. How do you feel about it? And do you think that is what like a retirement plan could be for big-named UFC fighters like forever almost yeah 100% I was jacked for Nate versus Jake I watched it I sat on my couch at the edge of it was so excited to see what happens uh it was a great fight very entertaining and uh was very entertaining. Logan Paul versus Dylan Dennis, same thing.

I will be, I'll buy it, I'll sit down, I'll watch it, I'll react to it, I'll talk about it, I'll be on the internet, I'll be a part of it as much as I can through YouTube. I love that stuff, very exciting. And it's definitely something I would be interested in later on in the career, similar to what Floyd's doing, doing these exhibitions, doing stuff like that. But yeah, for me right now, obviously go out there, get the belt, do my thing. And then, you know, hopefully beat up G Maybe utilize and make some appearances. But now with the way it's kind of growing, if you're a good fighter with a name,

I think you'll be able to potentially profit forever, which is good for the fight game in the long haul, even though some of these fights might be terrible. Now, Jake's fight's entertaining. Very. Very entertaining. That first round was incredibly entertaining. And Nate Diaz is fighting. Nate Diaz is fighting, so that's going to be entertaining because Nate Diaz is fighting.

I assume this Logan and Dylan one will be good, and there's going to be entertaining because Nate Diaz is fighting. I assume this Logan and Dylan one will be good, and there's going to be bad ones, but I think it's great for the fight game, just like you're great for the fight game. I don't know where you're headed, but we will certainly let you go, pal. Sorry about that. I got to run to Whole Foods, and I got some more media. I got the press conference I got to get ready for. I just got

some shit I got to do, but I fucking hate leaving the boys. I wish we could talk for longer. I would love to come on after, celebrate with you guys, and fucking definitely want to keep in touch with the boys. All right. We miss you, buddy. Good luck out there. Ladies and gentlemen, the future Bantamweight champion

of the UFC, Sugar Sean. What if that was how we actually left conversation? That was so cool. You know what I mean? Not from here. So, he's starting his weight cut tonight, he said? I think that was how we actually left conversation. That was so cool. You know what I mean? Fade out. Not from here. Got to do it. So he's starting his weight cut tonight, he said. Yeah. Boy, oh boy.

That was the next question. The next question was, what are those? Yeah, he's 155 is where he's at, so he's got to get 20 pounds. He said something about people that have to lose 15 to 20. It's a little bit more difficult, but it's part of the job. I wonder what he's doing. I know. How do you even lose that much when you're in that good of shape?

Yeah. There isn't. Hammer the sauna. Yeah. Sauna. Then they fill the hot tub up with super hot water and just get basically your mouth out of it. Sweat more. So then.

Spit a bunch. Imagine how. Hell, couldn't it wait. Imagine how good it has to feel after you make it. Oh, man. And then you're able to drink again and everything. You're probably so excited there to get into that fight. This might be what worked.

For me, this would be the worst part. I lack a lot of discipline and this sounds like a nightmare. I run hot to begin with. Hate how much you have to sweat. And then you're basically just trying to murder your body. Make everything kind of disappear. Get on a scale and then you're back at it. I would not be great at this, but this is probably the most mentally taxing.

They all say it's the worst part. They say it's the worst part, too. A lot of fighters. The cut. And then they put on, I mean, Alex Pereira, when he fought at 205, I'm pretty sure the thing was like he weighed in, 205, got it, and then he was like 227 the next day. There has to be something about percentage gained post-weight. Yeah, they're putting it in there now.

It really wasn't in there earlier. So they're putting it in for all things? Like boxing and MMA or just MMA? I'd know for boxing for sure. So, hey, can't be a 250 guy fighting at 185. Some percentages I think they have now.

If you fight 135, you can't be like 147 before the fight. Like they weigh you in again before the fight. Oh. Double check. It's like a math. Yeah. What was the percentage that you gained off of this?

Is this where you're allowed to be whenever we fight? That makes more sense it seems like. Because he's the tallest Bantamweight, right, him? Yeah, he has to be. That's his thing. Yeah. He's super long reach. Has to be. And that, him? Yeah, he has to be. That's his thing. Super long reach.

He has to be. And that's why he said, everybody tries to take me down. That's what you're trying to do because most guys I fight, I can do the John Jones. Remember when Moutinho was like, go ahead, hit it. Yeah. Hit it. Hit my face. He was using his head.

Hit my face. Oh, right cheekbone. Got one of those. Eat it. And then Sean would throw a combo, and he's like, left chin, right cheek. Boom, boom. He's actually throwing combos back at Sean's fist. Sean actually, because of that, broke both of his hands.

Yes. And Moutinho lost the fight, but. Didn't matter. But he earned our hearts. He has the most lethal face in the history of the fight game. Yep. By far. Three straight rounds of that face in the history of the fight game. By far. Three straight rounds of that.

This is an awesome fight. This is all his highlights, but at one point, Sugar Sean was dribbling, step back, right hook, and right... Those aren't just little jabs he's thrown either. His head's fucking snapping back violently every

time he's getting hit if you haven't seen him fighting i don't know how that could be but if you don't watch fighting or whatever this dude worthy of watching fight now absolutely he's walking out at midnight 12 30 like okay you know gonna be tough i assume we'll see it at some point hopefully somebody in here will see it absolutely but like in boston too they're doing that they're gonna go fucking nuts for him when he comes out yeah doing that? They're going to go fucking nuts for him. When he comes out. Yeah, like, they're going to go blue. Oh, Mally.

Bingo. Yeah, nailed it. They are going to lose their fucking mind for him. But he's a showman. Yes. He's a showman in there, AJ. I think that's why I love him so much in there. Fight business.

Fight business, not the fight game. Oh, he's crossing people. Look at that. He just dribbled right there. Go back to that thing. He's dribbling. He'll do a step back a couple times. He's bananas. He did

this, I think, in one fight. He's just out of control almost, but then completely in control. What? Dribble, dribble. Looks like fun. Could you imagine? If you're on his side, if you're on o'malley's side

he's having a good time in there we haven't really seen him not have a good time right no well he had that the drop foot deal that was like really the only time that's just like a freak accident and he that's why he says he's undefeated yeah because what how was i supposed to that was ridiculous he could rematch marlon vera's fighting uh on the he's fighting before him so if they both win they could have another one aj now i know i asked this before, and I should know more about you. And every day I learn more and more about you. Like, this guy finished sixth in a Heisman voting. Yeah.

What? I didn't know that. Somebody tweeted it. We've seen it. Is there six spots do they vote for? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they had the entire list. I didn't know that.

Yeah, you got a Heisman vote? Throw that on the intro. Ha! Ha! Look at that. Heisman vote? Throw that on the intro. Ha! Look at that. Heisman voting. Sixth, A.J. Hawk, Ohio State. No first place votes.

I don't know what that's all about. These assholes, they just don't respect defense. Well, you're splitting votes in Ohio with Brady, so it's tough. In the family, not even in Ohio. Brady got to go, I guess, right? That was Brady's junior year there. So you didn't get to go to the presentation because you were six. Right.

No, they did not reach out to me to come to that. No, it's true. Loser. What's that all about? I don't know. AJ Heisman Hawk? Did he win the linebacker award or no? The Butkus? Nope. Nope, did not. You won the Bednarik though, didn't you?

I don't know about that. Whatever Lombardi is, that's that one. That's what I got. Michael? D-line, O-line. It's like D-line, O-line, interior line or linebacker. Gersky? Nope.

You know what the name is. Just fucking say it. Lombardi. I told you. The Lombardi award. I told you that. Well, you kind of. You said maybe it's this.

Whatever the Lombardi is. No, I said I don't know how. It's, they take either O-line, D-line, and if you're off the ball linebacker, not an edge rusher. That's like, it's a weird award. Sounds like you were pumped to win it. I was. It was great. Luke Bickle came and was pumped.

Oh, and you got the Jack Lambert trophy. Where'd you guys, oh, you won Jack Lambert. Whoa. Adam's brother. Where was that? Where was the award presentation? Which one? The Lombardi was Somewhere, I don't know

Oh, you know No, that wasn't, believe me It was terrible, it was during bowl practice I had to fly around to multiple spots, I almost canceled my trip I almost went home I don't want these awards, I want to play football No, they try to put you on the whole They put you like you're a circus animal

They want to parade you around. I'm like, this is not what I'm doing. I'm 21 years old, and I don't want to be here. Hey, just to let you know, the reason why I won this award, why I'm this circus animal that you guys see, is because of football. And I'm missing football practice right now. Let's get the main thing, the main thing here. It is not fun.

Those things are just not fun. Could you imagine him winning the NIL? Oh, my God. In Ohio, our guy right here? So many steaks named after Hawk. Are you kidding me? Give me the Hawk burger. Let me get the 16-ounce Hawk.

Give me the Hawkeroni pizza. Yeah. Ryder Cuff winner, but not champion. That's awesome. You are. That's real deal. Champion of Ohio. This is my real Wikipedia?

Two-time champion of Ohio? I didn't know that. Oh, 2020? Did you get voted in in 2020? I guess I don't know. Because of all your work during COVID. Yeah, he probably forgot. That's amazing.

No, I think it's because of January 6th, right? I mean, 2021. Yeah. What, his birthday? Yeah, I think that's... That is awesome. Think about our show. Just think about our show.

You know? A.J. Hawk. We describe as one of the most toxic humans of all time. Publicly. His birthday. Actual birthday. Is when that whole thing pops off over there in the Capitol. Everyone meet me down in D.C.

We're going to have a party. Think about... For those that are new to our show, think about how we handled his birthday being january 6th january 7th yes yeah of that entire just absolutely our show's the fucking dumbest dude just the dumbest that we have connections to things we shouldn't you know somehow we get tied into the stories that are the entire political world pretty much that aaron Rodgers stuff during COVID. So awesome.

I don't know about that. There was a lot of terrible things being said to me about how I looked, what I was doing. I was a murderer, and so was Aaron Rodgers. SNL. SNL. It started off an SNL episode. And now, on September 7th, we will be launching

on ESPN, YouTube, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, and we are so incredibly pumped and thankful. The NFL kicks off on Thursday, September 7th. The Lions will travel to Kansas City to take on the Chiefs, and Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey,

Andy Reid, and the boys will be trying to go back to back in the middle of a dynastic run. And that day we will be live on ESPN for the first time from noon to two from noon to three. We'll be live on YouTube, Twitter and everywhere else. And then on Friday, we'll be live on all of those platforms from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Because on Saturday night, we'll be doing a simulcast on thecaloosa, Alabama. Hell yeah. Because on Saturday night, we'll be doing a simulcast on the field for Texas, Alabama. And we have no idea where game day is, but we're hoping that is there as well.

So it should be an incredible start to our ESPN run. And then Monday Night Football, obviously, is the Bills and Jets in New York to cap off that weekend. We're incredibly pumped and excited. And we have been a part of so many big things. But when we're on every single... Luckily, we're not saying we deserved it. We're just... Somehow our shit gets dropped into the middle of everything that happens. Not on purpose or planned.

But whenever we're on every single television and every airport, restaurant, cafe, bar... Yeah, right. Let's get ready for September 8th to have some shin pads. Bring those for sure. Bring your hard hat. Yeah, that weekend, you know, first weekend of NFL football, good.

That'll be a good distraction because whole body. Don't need it. Whole body. Don't be lying. We're incredibly pumped and excited and thankful to everybody who's been along our journey with us, knowing that we're a bunch of stooges who like to enjoy shit talking about sports. Now we're getting a chance to obviously kick off on the worldwide leader on every television in America,

as well as being on YouTube still and on every other social media platform for the first time in a long time. And just wait until you see the other things that we will be doing that I don't think linear television has ever seen before. So very excited for it all, AJ. Your thoughts on us going to Worldwide Leader on September 7th? It's going to be awesome. So this is the official announcement, right, of the date? Yeah, right here. This is the answer.

Just happened. Just happened. I mean, now the way you line it up with all that's going on that weekend, that's going to be pretty awesome. Four, five, six days, I would say. There were some discussions on when. We agreed to terms. Then we got to figure out a lot of stuff still. I went on to that up front.

We have agreed to terms. We're going to the ESPN family. We had agreed to things that are very important to a deal being done, but then, boy, it was time to get into the weeds. And that was a blast. That was a lot of fun. Talking to a lot of people. Kind of got it figured out.

Learned about each other on the way. Learned how things are going to be and how they might be and what's possible. It was fun on that side. What is possible with the weaponry that they are? Then the last thing to figure out was like, all right, when's this whole thing starting? And that was a pretty – that was a – there was a lot of different times

suggested and reasons for and reasons against. And it just felt like, yeah, our year is the NFL season. It starts. That's literally how we view our calendar. I know the Mayans have their calendar. Everybody else does their thing. Our calendar is the NFL calendar. Kickoff day one

just feels like the right answer. Makes too much sense. All parties agreed. Let's go. Huh, AJ? Let's do this. We have shit to talk about when we get on here. Exactly. We have football games to talk about when we get on there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Huh? That's good.

We have football games to talk about. NFL football. Our first overreaction day is day two on there. Think about what these humans who are seeing us for the first time are going to be thinking. Man. We're going to be in Tuscaloosa. Yep. 10 to 15 people probably.

Yep. Just about. Hey, but if you come, need energy. Yeah. And cigs. Good energy. see good energy you need good energy you know just throwing it out there they make them different and bad they do oh tone listen if we're in bam i'm smoking six i mean you have i mean once you get a taste of

that sweet nectar the cigarettes from alabama you'll know you'll know exactly what we're here i don't want anybody hey listen you You hear Skinner on the radio? Nobody needs to be smoking cigs right now. You hear Swinburne. There's so many different alternatives. But listen, if that's what you're looking for from the beautiful people down there, roll tide to you. Roll tide, baby.

You do what you got to do. I'm an Alabama fan, actually. I don't even have a college team, but now I do. Just think. Hey, you're a good one. And it's Alabama. Yeah, it's not bad. We often talked about how nice it must be to be in Alabama football.

Literally every week, you can shit talk whoever, whenever, about anything. Until you're in the playoffs. And you can even be baby-faced like, hey, your team's doing really good this year. Knowing that the person you're talking to, in the back of their mind, they're like, yeah, but like. So, at Alabama. If we were to play you guys. Right. Unless they're Georgia.

We'd be in deep shit. And then Kirby Smart says, nah, nah. My time now. Your time is up. My time is guys. Unless they're Georgia. We'd be in deep shit. And then Kirby Smart says, nah, nah, my time now. Your time is up. My time is now, John Cena. That's what Kirby Smart says. And then Nick Simmons says, is that right?

Is that right? So we'll be down there. Let's not make sure that that's our first priority, but let's have some energy. Let's have some energy. Let's have a good time. Because a lot of people

are going to be seeing us for the first time. A lot of times. And we know what comes with that. These guys fucking suck! Get them off the TV, god damn it! I don't think McGee's going to say that. That was somebody watching.

It sounds like McGee. What's your problem? Why are you broad-bushed? McGee would never say that. No, I know. Still thinking about Barth Brooks. We need to get him on program Yes we do We ever go over to

Omaha We will certainly book him For any event Yes That is taking place Because what McGee said About his ability Is one that I need to see

With these eyes Oh yeah And here That's right With these ears right here I agree There's going to be a lot of These guys think they're funny

These guys These are the guys No they say I don't get it I going to be a lot of these guys think they're funny. These guys? These guys. These are the guys that... No, they say, I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't know what they're doing. Tired of the stick. Dude, think about... They fired...

Insert name of legendary... Yeah, you're right. Very good... You're right. Oh, yeah. Any of them. There was a lot of incredible talent. To listen to these guys talk about drinking their own piss.

Like, that's what it's going to be. What the fuck? So, you did do that. We knew it. That's what I've been saying this whole time. Look at you. That's what I've been saying this whole time. If you want to think that I did, then yes.

That's your job. So that sounds like. Yeah, think. That's his truth. So, AJ, just. No, I told you I might do it. I might start doing it. I told you that.

See, but, AJ, I'm thinking like this. You know, because the way your brain operates. He's tried it. As soon as I looked at. Well, of course. But that's why i i as soon as i saw you and i just thought there's benefits i would have tried i heard there was benefits remember yeah hey you heard from frothy loads on people there's benefits not p no mixed with no i heard if it was uh you gotta mix it yeah remember the splenda that's the that's the cinnamon you're dipping into the tea. Splenda, the body.

Great for your skin and your complexion and all that kind of stuff. Anyways, I looked at you and I said, that guy has drank his own piss before. Because of how much you work out and the way you view life and everything like that. As soon as I said it to you, in your mind, you're like, this guy got me. He knows. I've never had somebody just look at me. This guy can read me like a book he knows too much and you said if that's what you want to think like you didn't you know what i mean

i think that's potentially what happened but with that being said let's not make that the a block sure no you know push that to d it's not me i'm not pushing that you're not pushing it away from me. ESPN PR just released their press release, and now they have listed out a six-hour block that I think we should all be very fucking pumped about. Yeah. Okay, because no matter what your thoughts are on Stephen A. Smith, we will let you know we are pumped to be following that guy's show.

Honored. Yes, absolutely. And I believe there's going to be times where, you know, we are going right through the break, Stephen A. staying on, and there's a chance that we might have a delayed start because it's going to have to be, did you hear what you said this morning, Stephen? What was that?

And I can't wait for the espn audience that has never seen like a handoff happen like that before they can't do this i can't wait i cannot wait but that's part of the things that we found out like is possible like is this possible like well i don't know if we've ever... Well, is it possible? It sounds like anything's possible. That's how they've been. That's how Burke's been. That's how Jimmy has been. That's how Bob Iger has been. That has literally been... We got a guy named Foss

and every time we've said here, I said Mickey Moss. He loses his mind. He's the guy we're talking to. So he has traveled out here numerous times, and he is the guy that is being put in Bristol in front

of these people that have kind of done something the same way for like 30 years, and then he sits there, and then he's loaded with ammo from his brain that is very good. He is a very awesome, love this guy. He's very sharp. But then also like,

hey, this is how I think this should go and this is how I would like it to go. And he just has to sit there and then these people are like, that can't happen. That can't happen. He's kind of got to sit in the pocket, sit in the pocket,

maybe even sleep on it a day and let's go back in there again. Hey, this is how this is going to go. So how do we feel? All right, see you tomorrow. So this is how this is going to go. So how do we feel about it? All right. See you tomorrow. So this guy has been a weapon thus far. And I think the reason why I have such faith that it's going to work is because all parties are aligned.

Yes. And that very rarely happens. And by all parties, I mean all parties that have actual say. That matter. And actual influence. You know, that is, and I'm honored and fucking pumped about it. I can't wait to get started on some things. Yeah, and, you know, like you just mentioned,

everyone over there really has been pretty accommodating and cannot hammer home enough. I still have all the bookmarked tweets from when this announcement started. So if you, you know, might have been on one side of history when this thing was announced, maybe go back, delete some of those because you don't want those coming back and biting you in the ass because there's a chance they might, especially with what you just mentioned with the transition

that maybe had never happened before. There's going to be a lot of things like that that are probably going to happen in the fall. Little faith. There was little faith. Little is like generous. There was no faith. I didn't see damn near anything for those first

week two weeks three weeks the longest period of time i feel like i have sat through in my time in twitter of the zero faith but that's why it's so exciting that it's here now because like we're not in that time period where the announcement was there and then we just have to wait and wait and wait till it was you know able to prove to people yes like what it was and Now we're actually three weeks away from it. We were speaking into a wall too. Oh yeah. What are you talking about? Why would you even think that?

You're being rude. You're saying some rude stuff. You're saying some real rude stuff. You're a fan of mine. You're saying some real mean stuff to me right now. That is real rude and then it just kept coming and nothing like that nothing was not listening no at all for a bit but i think we have that has kind of quieted down it has and we're kind of getting to that point

where i do believe there's a chance that it does evolve the show a little bit. Because once again, we are going to be on every public television that is out there still. Like front office sports, who I've had a hilariously rollercoaster relationship with. But they have good information. They said last year was the first time I think under 50% of the people watched their TV. July.

Yeah, July. First time ever. First time ever, yeah. For the first time, America's usage of traditional broadcast and linear television fell below 50% of all TV consumption in July. Streaming has reached an all-time high,

and business models across media and sports are trying to keep up. And then, I mean, that was a perfect story to release for our announcement to be like, yeah, we're going to be on ESPN. It was. And there are TVs that are incredible.

There's nobody that has the real estate that ESPN has. No. And that is earned, not just fucking given. Okay, so that is, ESPN has done that for a very long time. Then we're going to be on YouTube, a pretty good one. I'd say. I believe our YouTube is remaining as the driver of this whole thing. I think so.

Pretty good reach there. Twitter. I think we're going to be live on Twitter as well. I believe that is a, that has become a real discussion. A real thing has happened. It's like have a pretty good Twitter presence as well. I think so.

And then this new one, what is it? Uh, tick tock, tick tock. Yep. I know nothing about that. Not on my phone.

We're going live on there as well because they're launching a live thing. ESPN folks were very welcoming to like, yeah, we do need to get multi-platformed. And it was like whenever they started talking about that with me, whenever I started chatting with them about what I was hoping for and everything

like that, they were so open with it like immediately. And like once again, with what that tweet was there, it it like immediately and like once again with what that tweet was there it's like i assume they're like yeah we were probably we're probably writing this thing so it's like things even though we had a lot of people cooking us there early our own people were just absolutely cooking us like everything that has happened behind the scenes and with like what's happening as a society is good for everything that has taken place thus far. And now it's on us not to fuck it up because obviously we have full control of the show

for 10 hours on ESPN every single week. Smell me? That's a wild thing. One of your posts you had, like, built on stone. It really was. And it's cool that you got to go back to the basement and experience that because it really is like a reflective time of, holy shit, it has been a long time coming. And, like and like here it is now and it's not as if we came here just to stop here like obviously we want to keep going and make it better and better as we go so there is like another evolution coming

and this is just part of that and the thing that adds and helps and helps us is like for some humans in our world and it's happening right now with the Big Ten games potentially only being on Peacock and fans being pissed, that's because some of those fans don't fully comprehend the digital streaming age. That's still at 50% there in July. So there's a lot of people still watching TV. So whenever you request somebody to come on a show

or ask to be able to do something, if they haven't seen you on TV, that you are not a real deal like you are oh everybody has a podcast yeah he has a show on youtube okay how many views the dude perfect have how many views this person yeah okay so they're small on youtube that isn't and i'm not saying that obviously everybody that knows that we've been very fortunate to have a ridiculously sized audience who is the greatest group of humans on earth but once you get on like them it's almost like jimmy pataro bob eiger burke magnus like they they've given the approval that

this is a sports show so then all those suits that make no decisions but are in a position that has to happen like they all just kind of fall in line on yep's legitimized yeah like that is they just kind of fall in line behind it and it's like that's another absolute weapon that we will be able to benefit from i believe when it comes to guests or events we're going to live or access we'll get to things it's like all that shit that espn has and it's built it is not that doesn't just happen no but for some people it's all they got too so too. So in my eyes, the reason why I was so confused by why everybody was so mad is because I feel like I understood what we were doing more. Yes. But it all kind of has come to how we hypothesized at the beginning. So it's, let's go do this thing, AJ.

Let's go fuck. I don't think people lost faith in you or the show or anything. I think they just didn't know because they haven't seen anything like this on ESPN before so like how can they continue to be those people on ESPN I guess and do that show yeah how they're gonna be able to talk about and like you said there's no way like I would die of boredom if I have to change if I have to figure something out bingo I'm sorry'm sorry. I'll fall asleep on the show. I can't do it. I really do apologize. I screamed son of a bitch at Luke Bryan college game day

in the middle of the, I don't want to say uppity, but a super highbrow college football crowd. It's like, you think that's just like, I don't know if it's possible for me not to be an idiot. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if it's possible for me not to do that. And I talk about a guy drinking piss at the ESPYs on ABC. Foxy's putting this vlog together.

Yep. It's going to be a good one. It's ESPYs in the Tahoe. Foxy's really putting work in. I can't wait for the world to see it or whatever. But he was sending some clips. Like, you remember this? And I was watching me talk about him drinking his piss.

And I saw in the corner, like, ABC was there. I'm like, geez louise, bro. I'm fucking ABC talking about a guy drinking his piss. What is your? And then, like, immediately I thought to myself, like, nobody got fired. No. Advertising money is still being spent. If that isn't proof to all

parties, we're good to go. It's a cool thing. We're in a good spot. Very, very thankful for it. I'm happy we spent 15 minutes talking about it. Jesus Christ. Hit one. There you go. That back

rim. I punted about 50 balls last night. Oof. Oh. Fresh legs. Why? Why? It was just for my ass, my groin, my hip flexor, my quad, my hammy.

My calf even hurts a little bit. But none of my joints, only muscles. Nice. That's good news. Yeah, I'm very very excited about it but still very sore yeah feeling that's how i felt after running that 40s very sore but it wasn't a joint so we're good not gonna need this to be fixed no ligament issues it's just that my muscles haven't done this in a long time that's right and i think they telling me, let's not do this for another long time. Sure.

Everything hurts, AJ. Everything hurts. The cold tub, you almost lost a leg. Yeah, and this morning I get into my ice barrel we have out here, and this was the morning I needed it the most. I can't wait to get in this thing. I get in there, and I drop down. You know, it's a barrel, so it's a little tight.

You've got to push yourself down. I bend down. Boom, cramp right here in, so it's a little tight. You got to push yourself down. I bend down. Boom, cramp right here in my right leg. Oh, no. In ice barrel. In ice barrel. So I had to straighten my leg. I had this thing up on the top straight up.

My leg's going straight. I'm not flexible. So this thing is straight. Oh, I'm just going to scrape right there. So, like, there's something going on with this one right here. But I'm up out of the ice barrel straight up like this, okay? And then my other leg is giving out. I thought I was going to die in the ice barrel.

Just get out. Just get out of the ice barrel. I had to do a fucking dip. I couldn't. Dude, I was like, I was so. It's hard. It was tough, dude. My ass was, like, almost stuck in this thing while I'm cramping.

I thought I was going to die this morning right out here. That's what happens. That's why not everybody can punt. That's right. That's what I'm saying. It's not just when the balls are going. It's the next day. What are you going to deal with?

I almost drowned from punting. That would be amazing. It would be amazing if you did. That's how I went out. I hope it doesn't happen, but still. Yeah, but if it did, if reality was. They just saw both your giant legs are sticking straight up out of the barrel and your head's in the barrel and everyone shows up.

Oh, man, why did he wait until we showed up to get in there? He could have just pulled himself. How'd this happen? How'd he end up dead here? Right? Couldn't he? Just knock the barrel over? You don't understand the cramp.

That's the message I would have been trying to get out. Yeah, for sure. You don't understand the cramp that I was getting at the time. It was bad. It was bad. But, yeah, I punted a lot of balls at Lucas Oil Stadium last night. And I think the content that's going to come from it is going to be awesome. You think so?

Well, that's part of the ESPN deal, right? You have to play in eight Monday Night Football games. That's right. All-time punter. Yeah. I don't know if they told the punters for these teams this. They got one night off. Hey, don't worry.

There's an older guy who's not as good as you who's taking your job for one night on the primetime. Congratulations. I did hit some big. There was a couple that made me like, okay, if I went to shit, good still. Yeah. You know, not gonna be able to pass a couple drug tests right now. We'll be able to get back into it somehow. Oh, yeah, that's the one.

Oh, man. that's the one. Oh, man. The back rims. Not kind. We're back tomorrow. I'm not doing it anymore. Your next one's going in. O-H! Oh!

All right, oh, there we go. Let's go. Thank you. Thank you for that, you know, encouragement. Yeah. Thank you for the team. Yeah. For lifting me up when I was down.

Did you see me? I was crouched down. You didn't want to do another one. It was because my soul was being dragged down by failing and failing and failing again. And what'd you guys do? You lifted me up. Don't do it. Your next one's your best one.

That's right. Hit that ball. Power of Jesus. Amen. Did anybody bless me there? I don't think there's any Jesus. I gave you. Did you?

I thought it was like a birthday wish where you can't do it out loud. Like 11-11 mega wish? Yeah, I can't say it. It's given or it doesn't come true. You eat your fortune cookie? Fortune?

Excuse me? Do you eat the fortune in a fortune cookie? Fortune? Excuse me? Do you eat the fortune in a fortune cookie? Do I eat the piece of paper? Yes. I never have. Should I? People do that. It's the only way it comes true. They didn't do it in China. I don't care if it comes true. What? I mean, what do the fortunes

say? You will have a great day. I don't want to have a great day! I don't want to have a great day or whatever. Okay. I don't want to have a great day. I don't want to have a great day. I tell myself that every morning. I tell myself that every morning. I don't need someone else telling me that. Your friend, a fortune cookie?

You just want one of the universe? My friend's like, you guys could tell me that, but I don't need some stupid fortune cookie to randomly tell me. No, it's the universe being put right in front of you right there. Hey, Pat, do you remember, before we get off, I don't know if you remember, we were in Tahoe. Here we go. And I've been seeing things like ahead of time.

I've been calling my shot on different things. I did it a few times in Tahoe. One time, you were sitting back edge of the fairway. I don't know what hole it was. I believe Sunday. You were about to hit. And I was like diagonally from you about 30 yards away. And I'm standing with my brother because I was about to hit my shot by a tree.

And I was like, you addressed the ball. And I told I told my brother man I don't feel good about this right now and I backed us up about four steps and you somehow bladed or hooked this thing and it I still remember the ball went I remember the ball slow motion as I backed up went right by my eyeballs right through me and Ryan and I was like if we didn't back up if we didn't back up I just saw Ryan the other day I'm like if we didn't back up, if we didn't back up, I just saw Ryan the other day. I'm like, if we didn't back up, one of us is dead for sure. That thing was humming. And I saw it. And so I got done. I was like, can I see the future? This is

unbelievable. I've had that multiple times now. Well, I appreciate the fact that maybe you have this sixth sense of being able to see what's coming, especially if it's potentially life-threatening. That's good for society. But you're right. I remember that shot. Yeah. And I think you you i don't know if it's two seconds after i backed it up two seconds after i backed up you were like starting

the backswing as i'm backpedaling yeah but i'm just saying also like uh if you did it with anything else it wasn't as predictable you know like my golf swing we all saw it you know and that was fairway off the off the deck yeah that was that was due to wood off the deck okay and i had to go kind of past you to begin with right you're over here to the deck. I had to go kind of past you to begin with. You were over here to the left, but I had to go past you a little bit. I believe so. I don't know what hole it would have been, but yeah.

Where you guys were standing the first time, I thought you guys were a little bit too close, but I was too damn tired to say, hey, you need to back up. I thought it was a little added pressure, and clearly it did not work. I remember almost killing you. That was bad. That was bad. Imagine if you get... What if you just eat that yeah i mean i thought who i thought it would have bounced up to the hole probably 270 yards off my head most likely but i still think i could have finished the round yeah he definitely would have definitely would have ended up in four

right in the temple can you imagine right in the temple i'm dead that ball's not bouncing that thing isn't going further it is disintegrating upon AJ's head. Off his face? Yeah, what are we talking about? That ball is dead. We're just going to be stuck in my brain. Is there anything we haven't covered today that we have to cover? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. DJ Khaled has a new album coming out. Bingo. He's releasing some of his new bars, you know, from his songs. We the best. Of course. DJ Khaled. Another one. Anotherj callan another one another one add another one okay don't be a fool get a pool i woke up to this this morning and i thought to myself i already have one but if i

didn't you're motherfucking right yeah hell you now you know what I mean This was his Instagram post It says swipe left Couldn't Don't need to Only need one Single photo Don't be a fool Get A pool

So let's talk about Global warming And global boiling Let me solve it for you Okay Don't be a fool What Get

A Pool Shout out to DJ Khaled for that word this morning Keeps going Is that the name of the song or just a line in it? Maybe it's in every song It should be It might be in the

We the best Don't be a fool Get a pool And then he'll come out with DJ Khaled's pools Oh yeah For sure It'll be like a It'll be a above ground pool

That they bury You know Sure It'll be like a above-ground pool that they bury, you know? Sure. It'll be like, it's actually both. The way DJ Khaled would spin that would be, what a human. He's the best. You hear me? He called himself a billionaire the other day, too. He was sitting next to Jay-Z, and he said, two billionaires or something like that.

I'm like, good night, DJ. I believe it. Good for you, bro. Absolutely believe it. He's got a new album coming out. He's got a new album coming out. AJ's got a new album coming out. I can't wait. I can't wait.

I thought he was going to become a professional golfer from what I've been seeing online. He's still. It was golf in studio. Anthems come soon. Yep. Is what he said. I know you thirsty or something like that. It's like DJ Khaled, can't wait to hear what you put together.

First song, supposed to be love. Not for me. It stunk. It stunk. Oh, together. First song, supposed to be love. Not for me. Yeah, it stunk. It stunk. Oh, no. Is it like a Drake? It's not for us. Mitt loved it.

It's for Mitt. Okay. Yeah, Mitt and his generation, I think the demo. We are not demo. So it's like a preschool song? Yeah. It's got some roly-poly all into it. Come on.

That's really? It's got some Magic School bus vibes. Yeah, but it's got good vibes. It sounds like there's good vibes coming. It just wasn't for us. Foxy, I think, liked it. Foxy, right? No, I actually haven't heard that one yet.

Oh, okay. He'll love it. What does that mean? That means he'll love it. I like a lot of music. Yeah. Foxy's a pro music guy. Hey, I love music, too.

That's why I'm super excited for DJ Khaled to get back in there. And now I want a pool. As long as you guys stop playing that. Don't be a fool. There, I love music, too. That's why I'm super excited for DJ Khaled to get back in there. And now I want to pool. As long as you guys stop playing that other fucking guy in here. Who? The one that fucking takes ice baths. Fucking, I try. Yeah, I agree, Tony. Bruce's guy?

Yeah. Bruce's guy. Pozner. 360s at the concert? Yeah. Pozner. He did get down, too, when Pozner said, everybody get down. Yeah.

He's going to stick up, but we're going to have a moment here. Get the fuck down. Remember when he stood up, he was about two feet taller than anybody in the entire crowd. Well, actually. Let's get to it, man. Bruce. Yeah. Like Posner all the time or only when you're in his presence?

All the time, dude. It's a lifestyle. Yeah, I agree. You get it. You're in on it. Hell yeah., dude. It's a lifestyle. Yeah, I agree. You get it. You're a mom. Hell yeah. I do. I almost died in a cold tub this morning.

Posner would have fucking maybe sang at my funeral if I died in a cold tub. If you went under in that cold tub, Posner would have came to you. Imagine Wim Hof delivering a speech at my cold tub. Oh, my God. That would be awesome. So emotional. So emotional. Rogan would come in, you know.

He was doing the right thing. You'd have a splash tank right next to your coffin, and Ryan Hawk would just be fucking Wim Hof. Oh, yeah, the whole time. The whole time. Butterfly in place. What a memorial for you. If this happens tomorrow, this is what I would like.

Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Got it. They don't talk about the dangers of that cold tub. No, they don't.

Drowning. Jeez Louise. You get the big one eventually that keeps itself cold? Yeah, but there's pretty high maintenance I think.

You got mitt. You can put somebody on it. I think it cleans itself. There is one that does, but even that I's not too i don't know how much you can trust just don't be getting in there with all your body oil and lotions and

shit all right we had rules we got rules yeah i had to break down the rules hey you get in the barrel you rinse off first and that's said in every nfl building and you know very rarely listened to by the entire team i just have enough ice, do you have a lot of ice there or what? You have no idea. Don't please. This is a touchy subject over here. We bought an ice maker, like an industrial size one. Yeah.

And it came and it was this big. This thing. This thing. This thing. This thing. It was this big. I got, yeah. We got a couple ice machines.

Ice machines are the best. Yeah, we just got a big ass one that's going in right over there, but I don't think it comes in for two, four months. Oh, no. Supply chain. Takes some time. Supply chain's right. Mayor Pete.

Mayor Pete's got it. Pete Butt. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Who you got tonight? Browns. I'm going Eagles. Minus three and a half? Minus three and a half.

Plus three and a half. Do we have to do this? Browns. Yes. First half, Browns. Oh. Do we have to do this? Bronze. Yes. First half bronze. Oh. What is the spread? I'm assuming probably, what, one and a half, two and a half?

There's not one, but you can make one up. Bummer. I guess I'll take the bronze then. Full. Full. Have to. I'm on the bronze as well. Seems like it's all too easy, though.

Give me the Eagles. Okay. That's why he did that. Yep. That's why Tone just did that. Tone couldn't get that out of his mouth. He started doing the math. AJ, okay, that too easy, though. Give me the Eagles. Okay, that's why he did that. Yep. That's why Tone just did that. Tone couldn't get that out of his mouth fast. He started doing the math. AJ, okay, that's one, two, Connor, three, four.

Okay, yep. Give me the other way. Yep. Because somehow these books will know who will benefit most from what and they'll end up with it. I don't love the hook, but, you know. Here we go. Here's all of the books.

Oh, yikes. They moved. To four? Two and a half. Yep. Moved to four. Oh, absolutely. Hell yeah. You're on the Eagles. So are you. Lines four. Sorry, we didn't make the rules. Nope. Three and a half, four, whatever.

Yep. We'll take it. We got to win by four anyway. Exactly. We know we're... This is going to push. That'd be awesome. 21-17. 28-24 possible. 20-16. Missed field goal.

Missed extra point. 8-4. Jalen Carter has two safeties. That would be great. That's the four. Obviously, they go for two. We can't let these guys get two more safeties. Yeah.

That could happen. It's preseason football. It's preseason football. You honestly never know. Right, AJ? You never know. Happened the first play of the Super Bowl with Peyton, remember? Snap over his head.

Oh, yeah. First score. Hey, he still got it. Oh, he lost it. I believe it. He still got it. You don't lose something like that. I mean, he was spinning it. Jim Irsay, too. He still got it. Whatever you think it is, he still got it He don't lose something like that I mean he was spinning it

Jim Irsay too he still got it Whatever you think it is he's got it Absolute fastball to Jim Irsay last night I've never seen it They showed Nolan Ryan stuff up there At the age of 63 or whatever He got that knee all the way up here And then he fucking outside

Corner it felt like That's Jim Irsay right now Jim Irsay is Painting knee all the way up here and then he fucking outside yeah corner it felt like strike that's jim ursae right now yeah jim ursae is painting i know i didn't i didn't dive deep into the jonathan taylor situation because the conversation was led elsewhere but jim ursae's batting thousand right pull my god look at that geez see you later yeah i mean there's a reason why man that's exactly right so Man He pitched forever too Like how long Like 25 years

One of the best ever He was throwing no hitters into his mid 40's Gas too huh Just country strong Didn't he live on a farm Yeah I think so Forearms massive big hands Big legs

He'd hit somebody, charge them out, he'd beat the shit out of them. This guy's awesome. Oh, yeah. How big is he? Is he big? He looked big. I think he's tall.

6'2", 6'3". 6'2"? This guy's 6'2"? That's, like, not that big. Yeah, 27 years. 27. CeCe"? That's like not that big. 27 years. 27. CeCe Sabathia, like big, big guy. He was 6, right?

He was probably throwing way more pitches, too, than anyone throws these days. He's 76 now in that video? Jesus. What? He was only 63. Wow. Oh, so this was him 13 years ago. Oh, okay.

All right. We just figured this is not recent. He can still do it now. That leg kick might not be as high, but he can still do it. So we got 90 feet in here? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Basketball court.

Is this guy available to potentially? Don't need it. We're going 60 feet, 6 inches, but yeah. 90 feet if he wants to run the bases. Well, if I get a single on Nolan Ryan, I'm fucking trotting to first. Yeah, fair. For sure. Yeah.

Imagine you have Nolan Ryan throwing pitches in first. Yeah, fair. For sure. Imagine you have Nolan Ryan throwing pitches in here. Yeah, that'd be sweet. I see him pop up on a lot of different internet things. Yeah, so yeah. Good chance. Well, this is the ESPN thing. This is the ESPN thing. That'd be so sweet. Get him to do

set up the go-kart track again. Have him pitch to you and then go-kart ride it. What's your problem? They say disrespectful to Nolan Ryan. I'm trying to respect. You don't think he'd have fun with that? He has all kinds of vehicles on the farm. Everyone loves go-karts. Everyone loves go-karts.

Who doesn't love go-karts? Everybody. Those go-karts are awesome, too. They're the jet skis of land. They are. That's a good way to describe them. Many people would say quads or motorcycles are that. But you're saying go-karts, which, hell yeah.

I think jet skis are motorcycles are that. But you're saying go-karts, which, hell yeah. I think jet skis are motorcycles. Yeah, I would have went four-wheeler. Maybe, yeah, because it is a thump. Because motorcycle, people who don't know how to ride motorcycles, very dangerous. I feel like it's a lot easier to ride a quad. I don't know. People flip quads all the time.

They don't know how to ride them. Pretty easy to ride jet ski i flipped one yeah as a kid that log out of nowhere oh shit oh whoa whoa upside down yeah yeah i'm oh i'm dead yeah he's gonna hate this but foxy rides quad so hey you look cool in it quads are fucking awesome, Tony. Why would I ever hate that? Yeah, you have some sport. I got a Banshee's Cannon. I'm a big four-wheeler guy. Yeah, you can wheelie like the Rough Riders Anthem video. That literally is the reason why I wanted a quad and a dirt bike as a child

because of the Rough Riders Anthem video. wanted a quad and a dirt bike as a child because of the Rough Riders anthem video. Oh my god. You can do all that? Yeah. Pretty good. I saw the Island Boys riding quads and dirt bikes the other day. What were they riding? Quads and dirt bikes.

Not each other. Jeez Louise. They're a smooch. They were doing more than smooching. The brothers are smooching? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They got an OnlyFans. Smooching, stroking, you name it.

There was a fake dog situation. Excuse me? Yeah. These boys are wild. These boys are wild. The Island Boys? The Island Boys. The Island Boys.

Smooching each other. They're smooching dong. I mean, how do we know what's real here? We don't. I can't take anybody serious. Look at this. I can't take anybody serious. If the Island Boys made a OnlyFans turn.

They did. Yeah. Okay. No joke. That was their only path. But what can they do to make money? They got to show their dong on there? Smooch each other.

Play with their dinghies. Okay. Ride quads. Ride quads. Ride quads. That is 100%. Hey, guess what? Do not search Island Boys on Twitter. Oh, my God.

Are they really brothers? Yes, they're really brothers. It is a lot of ding-ding pun. Yeah. You can't be real. Yeah, I'm not listening. I do not believe it. Dying there are ding-dings like fucking balloon animals. It be real. I don't know. I don't know. It's real.

No joke. It is real. Google it right now. So they're just playing with each other's meats on there and people are giving them money? There's no chance. We apologize for this fake conversation. This is a real conversation. I said, Island boys, we apologize for this fake conversation. This is a real conversation.

I am not fucking around. They are actually on OnlyFans playing with each other's ding-dings. Now, I don't know the exact. They're playing lovely sticks on OnlyFans. Yes. $25, they'll make. I don't believe this. Google it.

Google it. Google it right now. No, we're not doing that. $25, they'll make a giraffe balloon animal with their ding-dings. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Zito, pull that up. Tie them together. Knot them up. Zito, pull that up.

Tie them together, knot them up. And call some of those. Get those ESPN contacts. See if they can confirm this. With the Island Boys? Yeah, they would know. It's true. What a run, bro.

There's no way there's even a market. How is there a market for that? How is there not? They're the Island Boys. People like seeing brothers play with their meats and balls. There's no way. If they're the Island Boys. There's definitely a subsect of people out there

who do enjoy it. They're doing it. Is that illegal, though, to mess with your sibling? It's America, brother. Welcome. Sal was just told that Tone just dropped something into the group chat and Zito said, it's really bad.

I do not recommend looking at it. A lot of smooching on dongs. I don't think I've kept up with the Island Boys story nearly as much as you guys have. They're blowing up on OS. It's a fake dong. It's simulated. Good for them. Yeah, they're doing it. Just real quick.

Oh no, I saw a picture. See? What did we say? Told you this wasn't a fake dong. I'm not looking. I didn't look for long. Bro, that's my algorithm too. My algorithm knew when to turn the Island Boys pipeline off.

They've kept it out. I'm pretty pumped up about that. But now it's back because you guys have just been yelling it into my phone pretty much. And you just texted it over there. Don't click on it. If I gotta see it, so do you. So I didn't even think about dudes potentially on there. Well, don't click on it. If I got to see it, so do you. So I didn't even think about dudes potentially on there. I guess that would make sense on the OnlyFans if there was the other way.

Yeah. The dudes are probably just on there. They're crushing. Jeez. AB would make a killing. Oh, boy. Oh. I heard he's getting the call to arms by a bunch of porn stars. He needs to jump into the porn game.

I mean, Antonio Brown probably will head over there. He's already been an amateur a couple different times. We've seen a few of those flicks in the middle of his run there. All right, yeah, more of that type of conversation tomorrow. Boy, honestly, I'm scared to look into the group. I'm trying not to end the show because I don't want to go. Just know that it's fake. What's fake?

Like AI? So why are you guys talking about? The ding ding is fake. It looks like a carrot. Looks like he's got a carrot stuck in his jeans and the old buddy's got his mouth on it. Still pretty risque. I would say it's risque.

It is pretty risque to say the least. From the brief second I looked at what they said, that's what I got. Looks like a carrot. Ill carrot deal I got. Looks like a carrot. The old carrot deal. Yeah. It's a carrot trade. Everyone knows about carrot trade. Why is that?

How much money can that bring in? Like, hey, want me to suck a carrot from his pants? Ten bucks. Yeah. That's what it is? I don't know. I'm just assuming. They're going to split that, too, right?

It's five bucks, five bucks. They're on Cameo. Are they doing that on Cameo, too? If they do 1,000 of those a day, then they're making it. That's part of it. It didn't even phase AQ. He's just sending in O-line clips to the group. He's like, oh, yeah, I've seen that a million times.

Yeah, man, they're done that. Guy's sucking a carrot. Big deal. He's healthy. Call me when it's his real meat, AQ. Give him his vitamins. Congrats to them, man. Hey, good luck out there.

Keep it going. We're pulling for you. No judgment here. Never. It sounded pretty judgmental. Not it going. We're pulling for you. No judgment here. Never. It sounded pretty judgmental. Not judgy. I'm just wondering. Judgy-wudgy.

Low-judgy-wudgy. I wonder what kind of market there is for this incest meat-sucking. I don't know. Yeah, do you think they regret that this is what they decided to go with as a business plan? And then they got in and like, we really committed to this. And it turns out, I don't know what the peak amount of money is possible here in this particular world. You think they're having a little carrot sucking regret?

Well, you got to play the hand that is given to you, obviously. They know that this is what we did and we're set up and we're going to become billionaires soon. Yeah. At least their eyesight will get better after sucking all those carrots. Yeah, you're right. No point. They need to put milk in there too and get a little better teeth.

Yeah. Strengthen it up. Yeah. That's why horses love carrots. Yeah. Yeah. right. No point. They need to put milk in there, too, to get a little better teeth. Yeah. Strengthen it up. Yeah. That's why horses love carrots. Yeah, and the Island Boys. Good teeth. Suck those rods and cones dry. Mm-hmm.

Cool, boy. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Okay. September 7th. Live. See you there. I don't know if we need to have that. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, if it happens, people need to know that this is taking place. I just learned something. I didn't know that. The Island Boys came, if it happens, people need to know that this is taking place. I just learned something. I didn't know that. The Island Boys came into all of our lives. Yep.

And then I thought they disappeared. No, no, no. We're just a big information show. Yeah. Stop. What's up, AJ? I stopped myself.

I had a couple things. You're going to say it? I had to stop myself. The only thing that disappeared. I couldn't imagine what that was. Is that what you were going to say? Made a few things disappear. I'm glad. I feel, I'm proud of myself. I'm maturing. Atta boy. The only thing that disappeared I couldn't imagine what that was Is that what you were going to say?

I'm glad, I feel, I'm proud of myself I'm notoring Proud of you AJ Yeah Watched the bum fights guy on Dr. Phil yesterday Yep, classic Unbelievable I highly recommend, if you have two and a half minutes Just search bum fights guy

Dr. Phil, you will not regret it i did not know that existed either this guy has the haircut of dr phil he shaves it into his head on dr phil so he has full head of hair obviously there he is there he is goes on dr phil like that the entire appearance is two and a half minutes, though, so I guess you kind of see how it goes quickly. Yep. But. Well worth the watch.

Dr. Phil baby face. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But bum fights guy, quite a good heel. Oh, yeah. Is it Jim Everett, Chris Everett situation? Even better. Great moment in the history of sports media,

and I don't know if that will ever be duplicated ever again. But I will. What did he say? Bet I do. Bet I do. Bet I do, yeah. And then what was the name? Chris Everett.

Jim Everett. It was Jim Everett. He kept calling him Chris Everett. Why did he keep calling him Chris Everett? Chris Everett was a tennis player. Female. Yeah. So like you guys calling Davis Mills Dougie Mills.

No. That would be calling him like Debbie Mills. Yeah, but Debbie's a. Yeah, little Debbie. Come on. That's only a name that's not normally a male name, right? Like Chris is a male name. He knew Chris Everett.

He was referring to the tennis player, though. Jim Everett knew that. And Jim was like, don't you do that. I just learned about a baseball player saying some things in an interview yesterday. Nick sent me over an Instagram meme. I think his name was Rocker. Oh, John Rocker.

You play no games. I listened to an interview. They read a transcript from his interview on a local news somewhere. And I caught it on the Instagram and Nick sent it over to me and I listened to it. He was a psychopath and he ran, I don't know, 400

miles an hour from the bullpen to the mountain. To the base King Powers off of. Yeah. Turns out there's a reason people were throwing fucking batteries at him and shit when he was coming out of the bullpen. Where's he at now? He just disappeared? Yeah. He literally ran 3.9 from the fucking bullpen to the mountain every time. Did you hear the quotes bullpen to the mount every time did you

hear the quotes he gave to an interview like oh yeah are you right do you want to read it here yeah you want to read it do you want to read it like word for word no no i'm just saying i i was sheltered to a lot of things i think i know which i think i know what you're referring to he had he had a run there for a couple years bro he said something like, yo, there's a bad guy. There's a mean guy. He's a mean guy. It's a mean guy. He's a mean guy. He's a mean guy. He is not.

This guy doesn't really like. No, not very tolerant of other. Anything. Oh, okay. I've never heard of this guy. In an interview. Like, hey, write this down. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Let's not misquote me. Pretty much is what it sounded like. Make sure you. Word for word. Yeah. It was wild, dude. How long ago was that? Probably early 2000s, maybe.

All right. He threw very hard. He did. He threw gas. A lot of hate? A lot of hate in his heart. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's going to heat up a little bit.

Angry. Yeah, you work out mad. Normally you're going to work out a little better. Throw mad. That guy wakes up pissed. Every day. I can't believe this has happened. What's that?

Everything. And then he's just throwing the shit out of that baseball. That's right. He had no friends, I assume, on any team. Yeah, definitely not. He literally sawed down every single race that exists. Well, except the whites. Yeah, the whites did not make it into the rundown.

But it's like baseball has, right? Oh, yeah. Always has. Yeah. So I was thinking of what he was, like I was listening to that. I'm like, no. As they're listening off, I'm like, all right, this is fake. Sweet.

This is not real. And then it was being a local news station was the one that did this. They're reading it off. And then I'm just listening to this guy. I'm like, how did this guy exist in sports? How did this guy make it? Because the diversity of sports is crazy. So, like, normally I would assume that you have good people in there.

Then you listen to that, and it's like, that guy was just like, he had headphones on in the locker room. Don't you even think about touching my glove. Yep. Jeez Louise. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He didn't last that long, obviously.

Only in baseball. He could wear a new glove pretty quick. Yeah, that's not happening in football, I don't think. No. Jeez. You know what? Sports are a good thing, though. Let's remember that.

Hell, yeah. Sports bring people together. People are going to be divided about us, though, September 7th. Okay. Well, September 7th, I don't know if anyone's going to be divided. I think it's going to be One Direction. No, because our people, I think, will come back. Sure.

Maybe. Sure. You said some rude things. It's just business. It's not personal. That's right. United we stand. Together we fall. Yeah, because when you're like, yes, that's weak. It's not personal. That's right. United we stand. Together we fall.

Yeah, because when you're like this, that's weak. Weak. But when you're like this, you're strong. Strong. Strong. Right, AJ? Like bad. Right.

Right here. Boom. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Team. Boom.

Have a great day. We'll see you tomorrow. Hey, tomorrow's a big one. Feel good Friday? Packed to the gills with guests tomorrow. Nice. Sweet. I don't think we have anybody. Okay. Obama? Maybe. Don't sleep on burial. Joint practices might be live in studio.

You know, because Chicago is in town. They got joint practices tonight, I think, too. Are you going tonight, Zeke? Yep. I was going to say, tomorrow they probably don't, right? No, so we could probably try to. Yeah, because Saturday night is the game, so there's no way they're doing it.

George said he would want to come by. Who? George. George? McCaskey. McCaskey. Kevin Warren, isn't he the president or GM? He was actually not here.

I've heard some things about Kevin Warren, isn't he the president or GM? He was actually not here. I've heard some things about Kevin Warren. I don't know how he's going to do running an NFL team, but I'm excited for that. I'm sure he has his side of the stories as well. Find out. We will find out. George McCaskey said what now? He said he was a big fan.

He's a big fan of yours. Really? I love Pat. We almost had him here. That was close, for real. So the owner is at the joint practice in Indianapolis, right? Where is he, like, living? In a hotel down there?

Does he have a bus? Does he go back? Is he helicoptering back to Chicago? That's a good question. I did see there was a motorcade, or what do you call those? Motor home? Police escort? Yeah.

So there was one car leaving. I'm guessing that was him. Got to be George. Might have been Jim, too. I mean, what if Jim and George had dueling, motorcades, raced to the helicopters to get out of here? I heard Jim tell a story last night that was just phenomenal, just about a helicopter situation that he was in.

Is he still riding that thing around here? Oh, yeah, buddy. I believe so. You go copter, you never go back. I do not think there is. The way he was talking about this chopper thing, as if it's like the greatest invention of all time, and having to hop from one to another.

He's awesome. I couldn't even fathom living in that guy's world. Get a deal done with Jonathan Taylor. Yeah. To wrap up this day. Right? Let's go. If this goes in, a deal done by the end of the week.

Thursday. For sure. No question. Truth hoop! I mean, there's no chance that they're getting a deal. Whether that went in or not, we don't even know if he'll be back by a week from now. What, health? I mean, whatever's going on.

Hope he figures it out. Same thing applies. Why is this year he's gone? Truth hoop. If you this year. He's gone. Truth who? If you don't. Truth who? Ooh. Okay. Wow.

There we go. That's big. Welcome back to the Colts. Jonathan Taylor, it's good to see you. I'm back for our truths. What's that, pal? Did we all have the same truth or no? No, this is universal truth.

Yeah. The world. That WWE stands for Walk With Elias. And Ezekiel. And. And Eldridge. And. Elron.

And. EJ. Elmer. And. Eloise. And. Elena. And.

Ella. LA Knight. Where's. No, that's. That's an L. That's an actual L. Starts with L. I know.

I'm just throwing in my favorite wrestlers. Yeah, but we're just saying the Ezekiel family. Right. The Elias family. Where have they been? I haven't heard from them. I haven't heard from them. Yeah, Nick, where's Elias?

Yeah, where? That's a good question. I don't know. I thought he went back to help with plumbing and everything. He probably did. Mm-hmm. Was Zeke there? Yeah.

Nick? I haven't heard from Zeke in a long, long time. It's because he hates you. I'm starting to worry about the guy. That's not good. Did he die in that hospital? No. Can't kill him.

Oh, no. Who's the guy in the front with the hat on? Little LJ? LJ. Who is that? EJ. Is that a brother? Yeah.

Younger brother. Youngest. Is that a brother? Yeah. Younger brother. Is that his mom down there? Yeah. Yeah. Man, she looks all torn up. Well, yeah. She's losing more of her baby. Her son is in a neck brace.

Why are they looking at the camera like that? Who? They're wondering why this person interrupted. Look, dad's got the fucking jug of piss. We don't need you. Freak up, AJ. He likes this stuff. Drink it.

It works. Elias was just trying to entertain the piss. We don't need you. Drink up, AJ likes this stuff. Drink it. It works. Elias was just trying to entertain the family. Still got his boots on. Yeah, it came straight from the ring. I think this is, dude. I'm so sick of it. Let's get out of here. We'll be back tomorrow with a feel-good Friday.

That will hopefully be much more feel-good than what you guys did with the Island Boys today. That's just real. Elias is not lying. Not mine. If it's happening, it's happening. There's no way what you guys are saying is actuality right now. Yes. In theory, you guys are talking about what could be the island.

No. This has been happening for a while. Yeah. It's been a story for like... I'll make you happy. Five texts have came in, so it has been pushed out of order. Thank you. All right, let's get out of here then.

All right. Happy we got to this point. I appreciate you all. We'll see you tomorrow. You're here then. All right. Happy we got to this point. I appreciate you all. We'll see you tomorrow. You're the greatest humans on earth. Life is going to be great no matter what because it has to be.

It's all going to work out. You know why? Because it has to. And let's try to enjoy it all. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their entire life. Goodbye.