The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 959 - UFC Bantamweight Champion "Suga" Sean O'Malley, Steve Mariucci, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

On today's show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's Monday Night Football game between the Ravens and Commanders and how Sam Howell looks like he might be a guy going for...ward, the Colts officially allowing Jonathan Taylor to seek a trade although he is at joint practices in Philadelphia with the Eagles, and everything else happening in the NFL as we are just 16 days away from the start of the regular season. Joining the progrum is the newly crowned UFC Bantamweight Champion of the World, Suga Sean O'Malley, to discuss his fight with Aljamain Sterling, how incredible the night was, who he potentially wants to fight next, being a little banged up going into the fight, his interaction with Conor McGregor after the fight on Instagram, and much more (28:54-53:12). Later, former Head Coach of the San Francisco 49ers and Detroit Lions, and current analyst on the NFL Network, Steve Mariucci joins the show to chat about GameDay Morning on the NFL Network, his thoughts on Jordan Love going into the season, how he thinks the Jets will fare with Aaron Rodgers, what's going to happen with the RB market, Shane Steichen having to deal with the Jonathan Taylor situation as a first-time Head Coach, and more (1:56:35-2:34:07). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Tuesday, August 22nd, 2023, this sports program starts now. Football! Happened last night. We had Monday Night Football preview of what the season's going to look like. New Monday Night Countdown with Scott Van Pelt in the hosting chair. Then you have Ryan Clark, Swagoo, and RG3, alongside Shefty and some others, I believe, that'll be popping in. It was nice to see them form their chemistry and what that show could look like when they take it on the road, I'd assume,
Starting point is 00:00:35 still like they have in years past. Then we get a chance to hear Joe Buck and Troy Aikman do their thing. Nice to hear the Goats chit-chatter on Monday night. And I'll tell you, for a preseason football game, week two preseason football game, these games have normally stunk. These games have been terrible. But Sam Howe and the Commanders with Eric Biennemi's offense look
Starting point is 00:00:53 damn good. It's against third stringers. Who cares? They were slinging the ball all over the place. Sam Howe appears to be a guy. Now, I put out a tweet that says, this dude can really deal with fucking pigskin. He's lighting it up. He has I don't want to be a guy. Now, I put out a tweet that says, this dude can really deal with fucking pigskin. He's lighting it up. He has I don't want to say a
Starting point is 00:01:09 reckless mindset, but he'll throw this thing into single or double coverage. He has faith in his arm, his accuracy, and his teammates. I think he's beloved. We talked to Taylor Heineke at Radio Row and we asked him about a situation that happened during the season last year where Taylor Heineke was supposed to be the we asked him about a situation that happened during the season last year
Starting point is 00:01:25 where Taylor Heineke was supposed to be the starter, and he actually allegedly came out and said, you know what, hey, you've already seen what I am. You should get a look at what this Sam Howell guy is. I'll actually back up Sam Howell this week at the end of the season last year because Sam Howell was drafted to be the quarterback there after one rough year at North Carolina, after a great year before that, whatever his second year in college eligibility was.
Starting point is 00:01:46 So a lot of hope, a lot of hype. And Taylor Heineke said, watching this guy behind the scenes, he has everything you could possibly need to be an NFL quarterback. Last night I saw it. Last night his eyes saw it. Eric Bien-Ami's offense was cooking. It felt like the commanders are in a much better spot than they have been, especially under the Dan Snyder.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Like, that ball's a rocket. That is a fucking rocket right there. And on time. He had a bunch of those all night, and then I think you start listening to Josh Harris speak. Yeah, well, he tried to. Yep. He was great. Come on. Just watching
Starting point is 00:02:21 him more so. I'll tell you what, some people become bazillionaires. I'm incredibly impressed by anybody that has the amount of courage it takes to keep going whenever you're in that business world because people are going to hate you. Now, I don't think there's been a single billionaire that has happened where they don't have a lot of enemies. You know what I mean? Like, on the way up, there's probably a lot of people that they've pissed off, backstabbed. Like, that's kind of the conversation. But also, there's a lot of moments where people are saying a lot of bad shit about you.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And it's like, do you want to continue? Do you want to continue? Do you want to continue? Josh Harris, obviously, continued all the way up into becoming a billionaire. Him on that booth last night, or in that booth last night, though, I don't think that was where he was most comfortable. No. But he was definitely excited. That was an all-time moment.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah. Him and Joe have a little two-fingy, little two-fingy rapski the late time. I do like that Josh Harris immediately in the middle of it was like, whoa, this was not how that was supposed to go. Let me get back out of here. But it just, the vibes out of the Commanders team just feel better.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And obviously you could say Dan Snyder's out, and maybe that is the case. But also with how good this guy played and with everything that's happening, the future is bright over there. Good luck to Commanders fans who's been through it. Wale reposted my post
Starting point is 00:03:33 but he reposted my ex-post on Instagram. Wale, big time Commanders fan. He didn't write to put your left hand up with the Commanders? He produced it. There's a difference.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Sorry. Sorry about that. But they're like Jets fans right now. Yeah. Yeah. Commanders fans are like Jets fans. Seriously. It is a whole new world.
Starting point is 00:03:54 We are breathing a much fresher air. We have optimism. We have hope. And there's a good reason. Because for the first time in 25 games, preseason games, the Baltimore Ravens have lost. Wow. Losers. You guys stink. Wow. Losers. You guys stink, losers.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Zay Flowers looks really fast. Yeah, he looks awesome. He looks like he's going to be really, really good. And that other running back on Baltimore. And Munkin's offense looked pretty good. Pretty good in the NFL. Josh Johnson looked pretty good last night too. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Pretty good. It was a great preseason game last night. We're pumped about it. We'll be chatting about it all damn day. The Talks at the Table is here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Died. Cowboys Tony Diggs is here.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And 14-year NFL icon Pac-Man Jones is here. Boy, Pac. Yeah, so Sam Howell, watch him. You talked about being on time and throwing him there while I was diving through it all. He did look like an NFL quarterback last night. Those helmets are pretty sick. Yeah, they are.
Starting point is 00:04:44 The Zoom helmet there. With the visor. With Those helmets are pretty sick. Yeah, they are. The Zoom helmet with the visor. With the visor straight down. Not a bad look. Remember, they were starting to become some real asinine looking helmets that they were putting on people's heads. They were like, yeah, this is good for you. Everybody has eyes. These look terrible. They're not
Starting point is 00:05:00 that bad. Looks like he's good. But he looked the part last night, I think, Pac. I think that's the biggest takeaway that I had. I think he looked very apart. He had one bad ball, I think. But besides that, everything was clear. He went to his second read. But he was thorned. It's no question
Starting point is 00:05:16 can he play or could he play because he showed it last night. I think both teams played pretty good. Josh showed up last night and played pretty good from coming back from what happened in San Francisco in the playoff game when he had the concussion. Yeah, I forgot he was in a big-time game.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah, let him down the field. Had no idea he was on that team until he came on the field for the San Francisco 49ers in the NFC Championship. It was like, Josh Johnson's still doing it. Absolutely. Guy has talent. Did well for it. Let's keep with Sam Howell, though. Sam Howell, coming out of North Carolina, and obviously North Carolina now has
Starting point is 00:05:48 a guy who might be either number one or number two, depending upon who you ask and what team is going to be drafting a quarterback first, but Sam Howell had a great second year of eligibility, right, in college? Yeah. I don't know. It was the year before he came out. Yeah, so then his third year of eligibility
Starting point is 00:06:04 because three years is normally what he was. So he had like a we don't know if it was the year before he came out. Yeah, so then his third year of eligibility, because three years is normally. Right. We don't know if it was junior or sophomore, though. I don't think he left early. He made a red shirt. Yeah, and then you add in the COVID shit. I mean, there's a whole. Heineke says junior year in that clip.
Starting point is 00:06:18 That he left after his junior year? No, he had a good year. His junior year was supposed to be a first-round pick. Okay, but Heineke probably doesn't know either with COVID. He played North Carolina three years. So his second year of playing, he was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:06:33 If he was able to leave, probably, we're talking probably top five pick, quarterback, the hype is around this guy. It is a real deal. He's going to save North Carolina. Then he goes in and plays another year. Down year, not only for him, but for the entire team. Kind of smudges his name a little bit. Ends up at the Commanders, which are completely fucked to begin
Starting point is 00:06:50 with. Now he's getting an opportunity with new ownership. What a perfect time for Sam Howe to make a big comeback. Hello, like he did last night. What are your thoughts on him as a gumbler? Are we trusting this guy? I think we are. I think he's going to be given a lot of points this year. He's going to be given a lot of points this year. I think they are. He's going to be given a lot of points this year.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And I think Sam Howell, from the moxie that I seen last night, and the style that he plays, I think they're going to be in a lot of games. It's going to be a cover machine, I think. Yeah, I agree. His year before he came out was unbelievable. They had a good record. They had two incredible running backs, and I think Javante Williams and Michael Carter.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And then that next year, his stats were still, I mean, his stats were still good. I mean, we just saw him, but the defense in North Carolina has been good. And he dropped, I don't know if that was his fault or not, but everyone said like, he still had the arm talent. And last year in preseason, he was, he was good. And then, I mean, he must've been really fucking good in practice for basically Rivera said this off season, like he's our starter before anything even happened. Oh yeah. Gambling wise. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not going to not trust Sam Howe.
Starting point is 00:07:49 The O-line, I guess, has been the question in Washington over the last couple seasons. It's everywhere, isn't it? Is it everywhere? Dolphins, Jets, Commanders, Colts. Bills, Patriots. Yeah, Bills. Everywhere is like, is the O-line good?
Starting point is 00:08:01 It looked pretty good last night. They protected them last night. Like you said, it wasn't the Ravens starters, but they looked pretty good. And his weapons are like D like you said it wasn't the raven stars but they look pretty good and his weapons are like dotson's unbelievable hopefully mcclure is okay that didn't look too serious right that's that looks more because he also walked over yeah yeah that's what it was yeah the internet doctor said turf tough well i think it was a report after he got oh an actual doctor yeah he got negative x-rays last night and then today i believe it was announced, sprained toe, turf toe.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, and he's getting an MRI, I think. Okay. So turf toe I think can be a linger. It can be a linger. You know that. But it's better than a sprained fucking ankle. In that time now, between that last preseason, you know how we're talking about 14, 17 days.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Three weeks is a long time. Get healthy. They're going to need him. Yeah, for sure. He's got to see how the Sam House plane is going to be like, God damn, this guy. It's going to time. Get healthy. They're going to need him. Yeah, for sure. Especially with Howell. He's got to see how the Sam Howell's playing and be like, God damn, I want to put this guy. It's going to be my best year. Because Terry has people on him.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Every catch you see Terry McLaurin make, there's people around him. He's just making the catch. Sam Howell does not have some quarterback's fear of throwing the ball. He was throwing the ball into defensive meetings. But, like, it was a fun preseason game to watch. I'd be pumped if I'm fucking commanders. Whole half, too. It was almost a treat because I expected
Starting point is 00:09:13 a couple drives and then all of a sudden there's two minutes left in the first half and they're running the two-minute drill. I do worry that the commanders, they also have a murderer's row of a schedule. It would be awesome to take them as – The NFL. Everybody's going to get off.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Any NFC. AFC East they're playing. I think they might be playing another pretty good AFC division as well. Just when you're thinking Bills commanders, Jets commanders, it's going to be hard to go up against those two. I'm just covering – Yeah, I was going to say, like you said. That's all I said.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that plays into that you know it's like a rookie quarterback you or not rookie quarterback but a guy who hasn't played for fifth round pick like okay they're gonna be getting 10 points against the jets or whatever like and that's literally what i was watching while i was watching i agree i was like oh my god we're gonna make so much money off yeah you know because sam how even third fourth quarter oh yeah if they're down 21 he's still gonna be slinging i do feel like yeah so they're down 21, he's still going to be slinging it, I do feel like. So they're going to get – now that can go the other way too.
Starting point is 00:10:08 True. Because he was last night too. Like he is kind of – or at least last night, like he's always looking for the big play. He was looking to throw it downfield a lot. And you could see him like – yeah, he might have a hot hand one day, but he could also throw four picks the next week. We're hoping not.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, exactly. He gave me the Matthew Stafford vibe, though. Yes. Like, when you watch him, the way he released the ball, the way he throw the ball, like, he can get it everywhere. From the opposite hash, he can throw the comeback on the opposite side. So, it's going to be exciting. I did not know that he had that arm.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Me neither. At all. I didn't know anything about it. I'm going to lie. God damn, that ball is moving. That ball is absolutely moving out of his arm. I think that was my biggest takeaway. That ball is a dart.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah. Let's talk about some things that are moving in the field goal world. You've got a chance to witness an athlete do something spectacular. Oh, he's in for us. Tress Way, one of the greatest punters in the NFL, especially of the recent history, I'd say. He's one of the greatest punters in the NFL, especially of the recent history, I'd say. He's one of the greatest punters in the NFL over the last 30 years, 20 years, with how consistent and how big of a leg he has had. Last night, now he's just on a team that's never, you know, so it's kind of, which is good for him, too.
Starting point is 00:11:15 When you punt on a bad team, you're normally going to get a lot of field. So normally you get a lot of opportunities in a lot of field. I'm not saying that's what his stats are, but I'm just saying most bad teams, the punter, will have a lot of opportunities. So you can hit a short one, then you can hit a long one because you're going to get seven, eight punts a game. As opposed to on these good teams, some punters are only getting two to three shots a game.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So if you had a shank and you're only getting three opportunities, your average is going to be a little difference. I'm not saying that's Tress Way. I'm just saying Tress Way has not been talked about as much nationally for his talent because the commanders are what the commanders are. But he is a true fucking dog at the punter position. And last night he had to be
Starting point is 00:11:53 an athlete, baby. Joe Slott, who's been on a few different teams and commanders before. Hey, that's a 49 yarder. That's not just like a chip shot. That's a long time ball. Tress Way has to catch this thing off the roll. Now, it actually got a pretty nice double hop there into his hands,
Starting point is 00:12:09 but that's quick thinking. That's out of nowhere. Now, that long snapper, Kamaran Cheeseman, I believe. Kamaran? His ass is out of here. Well, yeah, so he was leader in Pro Bowl vets last year because he and Tressway are such a
Starting point is 00:12:24 dominant tag team. He had that snap in the third quarter. And then on the game winner, not a lot of people are talking about this. That's Lacer straight back, you know. Tress Way does a little turn there. Joey Sly hits a ball through the uprights. But, like, neither of those snaps are something that old Cheeseman is thinking to himself, yeah, I done good there.
Starting point is 00:12:42 He probably had a long night worrying about everything. The long snapper's job is not an easy one. But if you're good at it, you can have a job forever. So everything is just about snapping the ball the exact same every single time. That first time, obviously, it leaves his hand, slips out. He shoots that thing out low. Now it does get a nice little bounce. Tressway traps it, brings it up.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Atta baby, Tressway. Joey Sly thanks you. The team thanks you. All of Washington. Josh Harris, who can't really get a sentence out with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, he thanks what you just did there, Tressway. And Troy Aikman gave him a lot of love as did Joe Buck because it is
Starting point is 00:13:16 a big deal. But on that game winner, nobody's talking about it, but everybody who knows football and everybody that's deciding whether or not he's going to be the long snapper going forward knows that that snap, especially on a game winner winner has to have laces out can't have joey sly worried about what these laces are doing and tress way working it back in the day it was on the holder a lot more than it was on the snapper because back in the day they weren't paying people a million dollars to long snap now it is a full-time profession you're getting voted
Starting point is 00:13:42 on it for the pro bowl you are making a 10 10-year, 15-year living off of this. You are expected to snap the ball with the laces out. Dan Marino shouldn't have had to do anything to old Ray Finkel if he was playing in 2023. So everything about Dan being the reason, it was at that time because I think tight ends and D-ends were long snapping. Now it's a full-time profession, and the job is to put the laces on a field goal snap and hit a strike zone on the punt.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And if you can block, you don't have to tackle. But if you're not that good of a blocker, you're going to have to tackle. And that's just kind of the job. It's not an easy one. It's a hard one. I hope that guy gets over it because I think he's probably a great long snapper. But all it takes is just a little mental hit. And then all of a sudden, the ball isn't spinning the exact same.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Laces are in a different spot. And you're out of a job. That's just reality. He knows that. I hope he gets better. Great work out of Tress and Joey making up for him. And watching Baltimore do their whole entire field goal operation. Like, I think when Tucker came on here, he says, like,
Starting point is 00:14:47 we want to be perfect every single time. And it felt like every time he went out there, it was perfect. I think it was the last one, extra point even, when they were going to go for two, guy, false start. They have to move back, and Tucker's got to kick the extra point. And it really is just beautiful. Like, the ball is perfect every single time he kicks the ball. He hits it in the same exact spot.
Starting point is 00:15:10 It's absurd. Every single time. It's remarkable. He's a machine. Justin Tucker is a fucking machine. He's small, too. I don't know how he generates so much power with how small he is. He's a fucking machine.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I've always said Adam Vinatieri is the GOAT. Because not only my friends with Adam Vinatieri and I was teammates with Adam Vinatieri, but also Adam Vinatieri is the GOAT. That's kind of how it is in the kicking world. He's the only human who has done what he has done in numerous different situations. Any kick
Starting point is 00:15:42 that is shown in the history of the NFL as being one of the most important kicks in the history of football, it's coming off his fucking foot. So it's like Adam Vinatieri will always be Adam Vinatieri. And I think if you even ask Justin Tucker that, Justin Tucker will say that. No motherfucker's ever kicked a football
Starting point is 00:15:56 anywhere near as good or as consistent as Justin Tucker. He is remarkable. Every kicker on earth watches Justin Tucker hit one ball, and then two balls, and then three balls, and then four balls, and goes, yeah, I could never do what this guy just did. He is a jugs machine. He's a robot. And it's awesome to get to witness his fucking greatness,
Starting point is 00:16:18 to be honest, as somebody that appreciates it. But I don't – he's going to be able to just do this for 20 years, I think. Yeah. Well, that's what I was going to say He's getting stronger. Will his hips be fucked up because he isn't as big of a guy or is that a lot of mechanics too? His swing is so pure that he probably doesn't have the lingering
Starting point is 00:16:36 stuff with his knees and his hips and all that kind of stuff. I watch his movement he doesn't look like he's dealing with anything. He looks like he's got one of those like you know Jane some people got jeans like I'm boosting the bragging but like for instance myself like I can't gain weight I fucking look like this all the time sorry he just got one of those bodies where he getting better with time like and he can just fly he can do everything
Starting point is 00:17:01 like I was one of the guys I I hated playing against him. Justin Tucker? Yes. Yeah, because he's going to make it. Yeah. Yeah. You just get in. Because on defense, right, what are we looking for? We got to hold him.
Starting point is 00:17:12 What do we got to hold him to? 60. Field goal. Where's that? Field goal line's like 45, 50. Yeah, sir. Yeah, and that fucker's going to make it, too. This isn't like, yeah, if we get there, maybe there's a chance.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's like, he's been like that since day one, two, out of Texas, University of Texas. I am a huge fan. And it's awesome to watch him. And congrats to Joey Sly, because that dude's leg, we talked about this last week, how fast the ball gets from foot to net is how you can tell who's got the big leg.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Joey Sly hit a 48-yarder last night from foot to net that took about the same amount of time as most kickers in the NFL have, like a 48-yarder last night from foot to net that took about the same amount of time as most kickers in the NFL have like a 30-yarder. His leg is live. That has been a problem for him, though, because of how strong he is every once in a while. That ball will wrap around his foot a little bit too much,
Starting point is 00:17:56 and then that fucker's knuckling, and he doesn't know where it's going. It's almost like it's a gift and a curse how strong Joey Sly's leg is, but hopefully he's got it dialed in because I love watching him bounce back. I was looking at the all-time percentage leader for field goals, and the top five right now are all playing right now. They're just so much better at kicking field goals now. Kicking and punting, yeah, we are in a golden era, and I think it's only going to get better because just like everything,
Starting point is 00:18:22 you learn the techniques of what the greats do, and then you can kind of practice those, hone in on those. There's exercises that you can do to maximize those particular techniques since high school. I mean, people are focusing on being kickers and punters now at a much younger age. I just fell into it, you know, just like, hey, how you doing? We're going to do this. And I think at my age, even there was camps and a lot of people focus on scholarships through the kicking world. But now it is, it's everything. There's a lot of parents out there. They're like, my kid's going to get a scholarship and play
Starting point is 00:18:53 football and not get concussions. How are you going to do that? Well, they're going to kick. Oh, it's just as easy as that. Yeah. Well, he's at a camp every weekend. We got them doing this workout. We got them doing this stretch. I just think just like any craft, throwing, hitting, like baseball hitting, anything that has techniques that can get golf swings, anything that can get honed in and get better, it will evolve. Plus, guys are making millions of dollars doing this.
Starting point is 00:19:19 It's way bigger. So there's a lot more focus on athletes and working out, getting stronger, more consistent. It's just, you know, it's a different era, I think, of athlete. And like all those guys back in the day that they show film of that some of these old whites say, like, punter, kicker's not football players. It's like, okay, I would beat the fuck out of you and your friends. And I'm not the only one.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Every other kicker and punter in this league. Maybe not that guy at the Saints. They're saying he's really good. That small kicker? Fiveter in this league. Maybe not that guy at the Saints. They're saying he's really good. That small kicker? 5'7". He looks like a kicker from 1992, 1993, whenever the whole narrative started getting built about kickers and punters. But now it's like stropping big dudes because there's a lot of fucking money
Starting point is 00:20:00 on the line, not only for them personally, but everybody. So people are just trying to get better. Well, like you said, when you were in the league, you look at any punter now, it's like all these fucking guys are 6'4 or taller. It's like almost every single punter you look like, if he was wearing like 52 or something,
Starting point is 00:20:16 you'd be like, oh, that guy's D-end. These guys aren't small. They're all massive. Yeah, very athletic too. Yeah, that's the thing. Very, very athletic. That's why anytime I saw one of these suits on TV who's never picked up a ball, yeah, you're a kicker or punter though. massive yeah very athletic too yeah yeah yeah that's the thing like very very athletic that's why anytime i saw one of these suits on tv who's never picked up a ball yeah you're a kicker a punter though it's like i would beat you and all every single human that you've ever at every sport every every every single one of them and if we just so happen to fall into an octagon you all
Starting point is 00:20:42 your friends every one of them getting their fucking asses beat. And I'm not even the best athlete or the most tough punter. You should see these other fuckers. You got to be tough to play that. That's what some people don't realize, how tough the fucking kickers and punters and all these guys are. Because guess what? If they do something wrong, it's solely on that guy right there.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Corner too? Yeah. Corner has it as well. Mentally, we are driven a totally different way. Even me back there catching punts. Like, all right, if I drop this motherfucker, everybody's going to blame me. So mentally, I have to wow myself up a whole lot different than the other guys. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:18 And that's the same thing with a punter, a kicker. Like, you guys are way different than people think. They just think, oh, look, God back there kicking. No, these motherfuckers doing the same work that we're doing. They're just not in meetings as long but they're watching way more film and they got way more time
Starting point is 00:21:30 to hone in on their craft. Yeah, there's a lot of money on the line. I think that's what people don't fully like. You got super competitive people doing these things with a lot of money on the line.
Starting point is 00:21:38 There's only so many opportunities. Yeah, like back in the day, I think guys weren't really doing much. Like, I think guys were going golfing during practice
Starting point is 00:21:44 and were like fucking around and were unathletic and just so happened to back in the day, I think guys weren't really doing much. Like I think guys were going golfing during practice. Yeah. And were like fucking around and were unathletic and just so happened to get in. Well, why do you have this job? Well, my dad had me start kicking a ball. Yeah, I didn't tell anybody else to do it. Now it's like everybody knows this is an actual profession. So things are getting better. You know, it's good.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's good for the sport. But Justin Tucker stands above everybody. Speaking of standing above everybody, there's a man who's bigger than the program here in Indianapolis right now. What? What? Man or animal? GDI? Running back.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Okay, so not the other one. So, currently the Indianapolis Colts are in Philadelphia for joint practices. Now, they just had joint practices last week with Chicago Bears. They're now having joint practices in Philadelphia. Jane Sykin's old place makes sense. There's already been two fights. We assume there's going to be more. Once again, just got out of a joint practice all week with Chicago Bears.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Hot. Going into another joint practice, real hot. Let's go. There's going to be tensions. They're going to be high. Normally, they're saying day two of these meetings are when these things happen. Day one happens whenever you just had a full joint practice week beforehand and now you're in there. So I don't know how much work the Colts and the Eagles are going to get today. I do know
Starting point is 00:22:52 that they're together. I do know that Jonathan Taylor is at the practice. Now Jonathan Taylor is at the practice hoodie on, sunglasses on, just like he has been whenever he was back in Indianapolis, whenever he wasn't away doing out-of-state rehab for his ankle or whatever personal reasons that we hope everything's okay. But he has still been adamant about trading away his rights from Indianapolis somewhere else. Well, last night, the Indianapolis Colts said, go ahead, go find a place. Go find a team that could potentially be interested for a trade.
Starting point is 00:23:22 The Colts have given us all running back Jonathan Taylor permission to seek a trade. Now, Ian Rappaport was on our show yesterday, and he said that he thinks there would be interest. Adam Schefter was on Monday Night Football Countdown last night. He said he thinks that there will be interest. Jonathan Taylor owed $4 million this upcoming season. We assume if you were to give him a little bit more of that guaranteed, he might be at least happier than he is right now.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But I think the assumption by a lot of people is you're gonna have to give him a deal and you're gonna have to trade at least a first round pick to the indianapolis colts at this stage of the football calendar which teams could potentially want to do that people are saying maybe miami people are saying maybe buffalo people are saying maybe kansas city that makes no sense to me but they're saying there are teams that are going to be interested in this entire thing. I'm excited to see how it pans out, and I like the fact that all that Jim Ursa came out and said, John Taylor, we're not trading you now.
Starting point is 00:24:13 We're not trading you in October. Sorry. You're pissed. Sorry about it. Hey, you should see what Lolita. Lolita's pissed. Everybody's pissed. You're going to be sweet.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You've got to play. This is the way this whole thing works. And then now, reversing course, seemingly saying, if you want to get traded, you can go find a trade partner. Here's what we're looking for. Good luck. Now will his agent, who publicly battled Jim Irsay, be the one that's going around to find this?
Starting point is 00:24:39 What teams will actually be interested? And how does it pan out? We shall see. Maybe the Cowboys. I saw this morning Marcus Spears said, maybe the cowboys i saw this morning marcus spears said maybe the cowboys are interested yeah cowboys don't want to pay their own running back but i could see that perhaps i think it's impossible to see this ending any way in jonathan jonathan taylor's favor when austin eckler had the year he had last year and then was given
Starting point is 00:24:59 permission to seek a trade goes to try and find a trade and he keep in mind he's getting paid six million not four million and after going to see who would trade for him he added two million dollars in incentives to his contract so going from six to eight it's impossible to think okay jonathan taylor who wants a record-setting deal or at least around in that area we 17 17 was yeah reported but even anything below where's he at now yeah where's he? Maybe he came down to 15. But again, Dalvin Cook just got cut because that was too much money for him. And he's had 1,400 yards from scrimmage the last three years in a row. So it's just one of those things where this can't end well. The only way it ends is that he personally just sits out a year in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 00:25:40 But then if he sits out a year. Oh, yeah, then they roll it. I mean, I don't know. I think the Colts saying, yeah, go try to find a trade partner is maybe them extending an olive branch hoping that some sort of seed can be buried here and grow
Starting point is 00:25:53 from it with a relationship. Yeah, you can go see what other teams are looking for. And then if they go somewhere else, like if Miami and obviously Gumpy looks so cool back here oh my god today oh my god gumpy you look like you're straight out of the amish like uh like maybe gq yeah amish gq we got our we got our bag back we're all good boys you look handsome is miami they didn't
Starting point is 00:26:21 they didn't want to pay dalvin cook in that what happened with dal? Are they going to be the ones that want to trade for Jonathan Taylor? Maybe understanding that they need a running back, and in doing so, they're going to have to, just like they did with Tyreek, going to have to negotiate a deal before the trade as well. Still got to play Wilkins, and we're up against it salary cap-wise next year. Like, I don't know how it works out. Okay, so Miami, they could figure it out. They did not pay Dalvin, right?
Starting point is 00:26:45 And to your point, Dalvin had a great year last year. Consistently great. And the year before that and the year before that. Not saying Jonathan Taylor doesn't have the chance to be great. He does. He can do that. Two years ago, he was offensive MVP. Last year, though, cannot stress this enough,
Starting point is 00:27:04 missed six games, had four rushing touchdowns. Like, they put the stats up finally on ESPN today. This is the first time I've seen them put up last year's stats. They've been going off of two years ago, two years ago, two years, highlights two years ago, highlights two years ago, and they're like saying, the Colts, why aren't you paying this fucking guy? Why don't you pay this fucking guy? And then they finally put up last year's stats.
Starting point is 00:27:23 He had like 800-something yards rushing, four touchdowns. And then you look at like Josh Jacobs, Saquon, Dalvin. Pollard. All these people that are in there, his numbers, if you're just going by stats, look by far the fucking worst. And I feel like Jim Ursa and Chris Ballard at some point probably said like, hey, we're not going to negotiate with you off your worst year that you will probably ever have.
Starting point is 00:27:49 We're about to have a brand new offense. Let's see how you fit in this offense. Let's also figure out where we're going here. And Jim Ursa's like, I fucking pay pretty much everybody if I feel like you're a good colt, we'll make this happen. And he says, cool, April, I'm playing my contract out doing that. Then the whole running back thing happens, gets a new agent, and now all of a sudden we're out, we're out, we're out,
Starting point is 00:28:10 we're figuring it out. So I guess he's hoping that people remember him from two years ago, which I think Colts fans still think he has that very much in him. But, like, the whole scene business-wise in Indy, I don't think it was ever going to work out. And I don't think there's – I guess, there's no way to get it back to being good either with where we are right now. That's what I assumed when I first saw
Starting point is 00:28:29 this with Ursae reversing courses. They've come to the realization like, okay, this is unsalvageable. We're not going to reach a happy medium with this guy. He traveled to Philly. He's getting Della Sondra. It's the same thing. The body language and everything and the hoodie up and the sunglasses on.
Starting point is 00:28:46 So it's just like, hey, we can either trade this guy, someone will give us what we want, or the ball's in our court. He's going to play on his contract. We'll see what happens. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who just nine years ago shaved his eyebrows for 50 bucks. That's right. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Now he's flying on private planes with the title as the Bantamweight Champion of the World with a second round knockout on Sunday morning in Boston. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, your UFC face, your UFC Bantamweight Champion, your hero, Sugar Sean O'Malley. Yeah! Yep. Love that. Love everything about it. I appreciate you joining us, pal. You look very comfortable over there.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Just fucking relaxing, baby. Enjoying life. What are we smoking on over there? Smell me. Just some medicine. I'm a little sore. So we're just enjoying life how you how you boys doing hey we're good now i mean you're the fucking bantamweight champion of the world everybody's feeling good sean damn right baby those hundos
Starting point is 00:29:59 come from uh knockout of the night from your payday, from your bonus, what are those from? Twitch streams? I forget which ones these ones are from. If somebody revenue streams, I just fucking forget. Probably merch. Probably a merch deal. Maybe that Happy Dad deal. You know, could be absolutely anything. Hey, let's dive into it. It really could be.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Let's dive into it. UFC, first time ever. As soon as you knock that dude out they put it out on Twitter YouTube literally every single social media platform full knockout Dana White and UFC are saying hey world this is our star did you know that was going to take place and how do you feel about it on the other side of it now we're talking hundreds of millions of views now oh yeah hundreds of millions of views everywhere. Oh, yeah. Sean, hundreds of millions of views everywhere. Yeah, it's a dream come true.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It's wild. It played out perfect. I mean, when I close my eyes at night, fight week, and I try to picture what would a perfect scenario be. You know, that was pretty much perfect. You know, got out of there untouched, got out of there with no injuries, and put his lights out. So it literally went as perfect as it could have been.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I heard you talking to Bradley Martin, I believe, off air, about you had some muscle, which is probably what you're soaking right now, if I had to guess. Yeah. A little muscle thing here. And you were talking about how, you know, you haven't been able to grapple for like five weeks going into that fight he obviously was a grappler and then you go and say if i get past the first round i think i'm knocking them out and then you even had like training videos that they've been cutting of
Starting point is 00:31:38 you doing the exact like conor mcgrather uh mcgregor auto you do how'd you know how did you know and was there any worry whenever you're walking to that thing about it? And when you see them in the cage across from it, it's like, fuck those five weeks, you're going to come back and bite me. And ask, was there ever that thought at all? I definitely had a battle, a lot more mental demons, this fight camp, those last, it was six weeks to the day pretty much when I had hurt my rib had that little muscle injury and uh so it's six weeks no grappling you know the six weeks before that though I had really good grappling really good training really good sparring so I just had to
Starting point is 00:32:17 go off of those six weeks I know what I'm capable of doing and uh so yeah it was mentally it was a little frustrating it was kind of hard to deal with i had to make sure mentally i was sharp and i knew for a fact and i knew i was capable of it if i keep this fight on the feet if i can frustrate him i told john annick before the fight in the fighter meeting i said the first round might be a little boring i'm not gonna go i'm gonna go in there try to frustrate him to make him make a mistake first. And that's exactly what happened. The first round, not too exciting, but I didn't get taken down. A lot of people, the judges, said I lost that round.
Starting point is 00:32:52 But that was a huge fucking win for me to not get taken down in the first round. Second round, obviously, put his lights out. Yeah. Fucking beautiful. It was. It was absolutely glorious to watch. Now, I didn't stay up. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I tried. You know what I mean? I absolutely tried my best. But the card was a little boring, you know, going into your fight. Super boring. Okay. Are you watching that backstage? And you're like, these fucking people deserve a little something here.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Not that you never don't think like that, but you noticed that as the night's going, I assume? I just looked at the card from before the fight happened. I'm like, Chido versus Pedro. Probably boring. Heard it was.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Ian, Gary, Neil, Magny. I thought that one was going to be exciting. I thought Ian could finish him, but he couldn't. Mario Batista, my buddy mario got the job done he fought someone so that was you know if it's the boys it's you know it's a different feeling so mario got the job done and then the co-main event the girl fight lingered on a little a little too long so yeah not not a great card still the biggest bantamweight fight in history. Hell yeah. Thank you, yours truly.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Still, yeah, exactly. I had to go out there and put on an extra performance from the lackluster performances put on before. Well, and that's why you're a hero. You know what I mean? People aren't going to talk about it, but those Bostonians are going to remember that for the rest of their lives.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Big time. Actually, this guy's from Boston. He said his friends are like, you're now their fighter forever you're irish as shit obviously and in boston you become the champion they're going to claim you you boston's going to be in love with you forever i don't know if you felt that or not over there 68.8 irish to be exact there pat um yeah it was i definitely felt it. You know, Boston closes down at 2, but the streets were packed. The streets were pumping. And everywhere I went was just a shit show, and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 People banging on the doors of the Sprinter van everywhere we went. It was the first big fight that felt like, holy shit, I am what I say I am. I'm a superstar. Look at you right now. You're ashing in the tub. You got the fucking title right I am. I'm a superstar. Look at you right now. You're ashing in the tub. You got the fucking title right behind you. Don't even care.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I'm only wearing two chains, too, so I'm still being humble. I'm not wearing a watch today. I might not even take the Lambo out for a spin. I'm going to try to stay humble. Yeah, hop in a Toyota today. Drive the Honda. I might. Yeah, you might have to just remind yourself where you came from.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And on the flip side, let's think about where you're headed. Because immediately after the fight, you just mentioned it again. You said, did Cheeto win tonight? How was the fight? Probably boring. All right, I guess I'll fight his bitch ass in December in T-Mobile in Vegas. Then I saw Conor McGregor say, hey, I think I'm ready to fight in December. And I saw you comment on that. Now that you're the champ, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah, you're getting back end points on that thing. Are we making a super card in December? Is that how you're seeing this thing come together? I'm really hoping so. I actually, Conor messaged me on Instagram for the first time yesterday. He said, baby, we did it. And I said, we sure fucking did. I said, you're main event and in december i'm
Starting point is 00:36:06 co-main event and he said all he replied was shot kala so i don't know what that means but i feel like i kind of do uh so i'm hoping that's a yes in fucking in fucking irish yeah that was you sent a slant show back i mean that's the only Irish that I fully understand that would be mega you I mean Dana's Dana have you have you heard from Dana at all about the December fight have you chatted since becoming champion or is this something that'll happen later down the road um I I talked to them right after the fight just on the phone they were on a jet to another city already um so yeah I just briefly talked to them right after the fight just on the phone they were on a fucking jet to another city already um so yeah i just briefly talked to him on the phone and uh i just have to get this
Starting point is 00:36:51 rib injury my rib injury is definitely fucking was sore i don't know if he kicked me in the body um or if it was literally just from those brief wrestling exchanges so i really got to give this a couple weeks two three four weeks maybe of just staying off it which sucks because i'm ready to fucking get back to work already um but i know the more i stay off it the healthier i can let my body come and december's could be realistic if my body's ready to go you're a fighting champion you know that's why we love you you guys blue collar champion what What do you want from him? I felt like your pace around the ring afterwards.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Sick. That felt good. You felt like a fucking. Yeah, I felt good. I mean, I kind of liked the walk off celebration. I've been doing it for a while. Mopping people out, peacing out like that shit was easy. And that's kind of what Tim and I was, we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:37:45 He's like, Hey, you go out there and fucking finish this dude. Walk off. And I was like, Oh, I will. And it just,
Starting point is 00:37:50 it was the biggest sense of relief of all fucking time. It was just like, I knew beating. It's not like I went out there and beat someone who sucks. That's what it was like. I beat the best Bantamweight of all time. The fight before that, I beat Peter Jan.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And it's just crazy because my whole career, everyone's like, you don't fight anyone tough. You're not good. You're not beating anyone good. I'm coming off a win over Peter Jan and Aljamain Sterling. But the haters are still out there. But, you know, that's to be expected. Haters can see you walk on water and they say it's because you can't swim, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:23 They're always going to find something. But now you're the champ. Who gives a shit? Tim, your trainer, you guys have been together forever, right? Yeah, we've been I'm 28 now. I moved to Phoenix when I was 19, so damn near 10 years.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Hey, I bet you he had a moment, right? You guys had a moment after the fight, I assume, where it was like, hey, look at us, huh? You were shaving your eyebrows. You were shaving your eyebrows for 50 bucks. Was there a moment between you and, I assume, where it was like, hey, look at us, huh? You were shaving your eyebrows. You were shaving your eyebrows for 50 bucks. Was there a moment between you and Timbo, and how was the pod? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:52 The podcast was super fucking fun. It was crazy, because the Sunday before we left, we were like, damn, it's crazy. It's going to be seven days from now, we're going to be back in Arizona with the belt on the desk. And it was just like, how the fuck did that happen? So perfect. But yeah, after the fight, we got back to the hotel around like 3, 3.30.
Starting point is 00:39:11 We both had our girls come over, had the team come over, ordered some pizza. And we kind of, you know, let it sink in, rewatch. Yeah, like you said, the UFC posted the whole second round on YouTube. That's unheard of. So we fucking were watching it like four or five times back, that little wrestling sequence. And it was whoever made a mistake first. I actually made the first mistake.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I threw a kick and fell on my butt. I'm so goddamn fast sometimes that I fucking, you know, I fall. I'm too fast for my own good. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, your brain. Yeah, your feet too uh so i fell and he he got exactly where he wanted me up against the cage in a single leg ideally you'd rather have me in a you know in a double leg but i i uh fucking i i just had a perfect wrestling
Starting point is 00:39:58 sequence and it proved that i could wrestle a lot of people literally thought if he grabbed me it was over um you know i've been training for a long time with really fucking good guys i think it throws them off that i act like this i'm sitting in a bathtub fucking drinking a happy dad and uh people just don't think i train no yeah well listen everybody does things differently and what you've done is just win all the time including right now this is probably the best setup we've ever had for somebody that's on the show. So you just win everything, dude. Some people will never be able to understand that
Starting point is 00:40:30 as a whole. Whenever his face opened up after his left, you see that in your head like, oh, this is exactly what we thought. Is there that moment? Because like, right here, you grab and then you're like, oh here it is boom this is what i thought and told everybody
Starting point is 00:40:50 was gonna happen did you have that moment of clarification as his face opened up there not not in the moment i feel like i always have this conversation with myself before i walk out and it's just like, I kind of just follow my breath and tell myself, I'm just going to let all the hard work take over. I call it my higher self. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna let my higher self take over. I've done everything I've needed to do. There's no longer a need for the thinking mind to be in the octagon. I'm just gonna, I'm going to go in there and whatever happens happens happens so when i'm actually in the octagon i don't really remember much yeah i feel like i'm not necessarily there i love that much smaller level uh because i'm not like in there getting punched in the face or whatever
Starting point is 00:41:34 but my first ever long snapper in the nfl he was a veteran around a long time like 12 years or whatever the punter that was there before me was like 12 years or whatever so i go on the field for the first time he's like hey where was that snap at i'm like bro i have no fucking idea he was like what i'm like dude how can we watch the yeah i have no idea i blacked out every time i went out there i think that's a good thing that's called like the zone i think yeah well i think there's two that sounds like the zone but i think blacking out and in the zone are there is a fine line but there's two different things blacking out and in the zone is a fine line, but there's two different things. Blacking out, I feel like you don't remember what's happening,
Starting point is 00:42:12 but you're not being your best self. Then you're in the zone. You're not necessarily there, but you're doing everything right. I think there's a fine line between blacking out and in the zone because a lot of people think they're going to black out and just fucking win fights. I think you've got to fucking be in the zone. a lot of people think they're going to black out and just fucking win fights and i think you just gotta you gotta fucking be in the zone song selection was dope oh yeah superstar baby i walked out i walked out with that one um against peter yan and abu dhabi too and it was fucking sweet but it was just in abu dhabi and it didn't
Starting point is 00:42:39 you know those guys i don't think they really listen to that kind of music but yeah it fucking hit that shit hit hard in Boston for sure. Guy from Boston has a question for you. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Sean, from everybody in Boston I know who went to the fight and all the people watching at home, thank you for making it entertaining because start to finish, Lupe to KO. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It was the entire fight. But I don't think I've ever seen this happen. It was right before the start of the second round, and you might have been in the zone at this point. Definitely were, actually. But I believe the ref came over and told your trainer, Tim, that he couldn't be barking at Sterling or something. What did he say?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Was that what was going on or no? Yeah, that's not the first time Tim's been told by a ref to shut the fuck up. You know, it's a fight. He's yelling at them, trying to, you know, it's a, it's a fight. He's yelling at them, trying to, trying to,
Starting point is 00:43:27 you know, maybe he takes a moment of their thinking time and, and distracts him a bit. But I think he was yelling like the knees coming, the knees coming, or he's about to kick. He was yelling shit. And,
Starting point is 00:43:39 uh, I don't know if that's in the rule books that you're not allowed to do that. I mean, the ref told him to stop, but I don't know if like, I don't know if it's necessarily illegal rule books that you're not allowed to do that. I mean, the ref told him to stop, but I don't know if it's necessarily illegal. You guys are getting screwed out there. What the hell? I didn't even know you were battling.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I didn't know they're breaking the rules to stop you. Tim's a massive weapon. We got one of the best shit talkers in the entire sport right here. We're going to muffle this guy? Right. What are we doing, Dana? What are we doing? muffle this guy right what are we doing dana what are we doing yeah i'd like to see uh the rule book of that but i don't think he's breaking any rules but it's funny because i i do like looking back i
Starting point is 00:44:14 can kind of rant randomly remember tim just yelling shit it's funny is it all purposeful though yeah he's trying to get in the head of old Aljo there. The knee's coming. The knee's coming. Look out, we're coming near out of the corner. Yeah. The corner is down. Watch out.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I was doing one, two, and then a knee. Good luck. Good luck. Pac-Man has a question for you, Sean. Sean, I'm big in mental health. My first thing is, do you like Sativa or Inika? And second question is is how's your mental recovery after these fights it looked like you just fucking relaxing right there yeah i'm not
Starting point is 00:44:52 you know i'm not too picky on a sativa indica depending on what we're doing but as long as it's sort of organic quality strain that's kind of what i like is just like a good quality no pesticide bullshit fucking strain just a a good quality. No pesticide bullshit, fucking strange. Just a good organic quality one. And then mentally, yeah, it's a lot. I've binge watched every fucking YouTube video, every fight reaction, every video that is the Sugar Show UFC 292 has hashtagged on the internet. I have seen.
Starting point is 00:45:22 So I've been very stimulated watching myself i'm trying to get sick of watching myself but it hasn't happened yet um so uh but yeah mentally it's definitely uh it's i have to there's times in the day where i have to put my phone down and just go walk around outside and just kind of chill out and try not to be stimulated it's just so exciting it's fucking wild i've re-watched all the pros picks and it was like 32 pros picked me to lose and two people picked me to win and i just watch them and fucking giggle when they say oh aljo easy submission round one what is he gonna like do easy and everyone was just so positive that i was gonna lose so
Starting point is 00:46:02 watching those sometimes i watch them on replay i watched watched Henry's and Huda react to me winning. Holy shit, I've never seen someone so fucking scared. He was so mad that I won because he's like, now I have to pretend to talk shit on Twitter and act like I want that fight. He's five foot fucking three. My belt is taller than him. He's like, you don't want that fucking fight what are you going to do take me down no
Starting point is 00:46:27 like so it's uh that was a good one I rewatched that one a few times um Henry good for mental health obviously you're helping Sean's post fight recovery here I also saw you quote tweet a lot of people that had some doubt I love
Starting point is 00:46:44 that you're that petty I love that our champion is that petty I enjoy the hell lot of people that had some doubt. I love that you're that petty. I love that our champion is that petty. I enjoy the hell out of that. That's what makes you, I assume. Yeah, surfing Twitter, I'll call it X. I'm trying to move over to that. Surfing X was just so fucking fun. Me and
Starting point is 00:47:01 Tim both just being petty as fuck. I've been saying I'm going to be fuck. I've been saying I'm going to be champ. I've been saying I'm going to be one of the biggest superstars in the UFC for a long time. And I got so much hate. You're a wannabe Conor. You don't fight anyone.
Starting point is 00:47:15 So all the hate just made surfing X a lot more fun. Yeah. Well, congratulations. Those have been days. Not a lot of people get those days. I'm happy you got to have that time of scanning X, letting everybody know that, you know, the chomp is here,
Starting point is 00:47:29 and you can suck the chomp's dick. Yep, that's right. Yeah, I love that. Ty is – He sure fucking can. Yeah, you're goddamn right. Speaking of Sunday, shout out, Instagram story. Ty has a question for you.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah, yeah, that was a great one. Sean, I'm not sure if you know because, you know, you are the newly uh crowned champion here but like how much say do you have in matchmaking for like your future uh future like title contenders like can you go to dana do you know and be like no i want this fucking guy like because we know like the ufc they love doing like you know the the rematch and then trying to maybe set up like uh you know a trilogy series and all that kind of stuff. But how,
Starting point is 00:48:06 uh, hands on, can you be in saying like, no, I want this fucking guy. Or is it the kind of thing where you'll just let them come, come to you with whoever it is and you'll serve them up whenever that happens?
Starting point is 00:48:18 Um, I'd like to think I have a full control of it, but I don't know if that's necessarily true. UFC is a fucking business.'re money making business they want to do big business um so what does big business me going out there and knocking someone else out so you know ideally i can who's the biggest fight for me and uh you know i think that that's chito and it could be henry chito's acting way too like he deserved a title shot after beating pedro i beat pedro in the second round he went to a boring decision with him so he's been acting a little much acting up
Starting point is 00:48:56 a little much so i might i might pick henry but then again henry's just acting up a little bit too much too i need these guys to be a little bit more respectful, you know, get down on their knees, bow down, and say, hey, will you please fight me? So if that doesn't change, I don't even know. I might not even fight in December. I might just stay champ and just fight some other time if these guys act like that. Hey, these people, you want a shot at the king, man? You guys better be a little bit more respectful with the way you're handling this whole thing. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:24 There's a new sheriff in the Bantamweight town. There's a new sheriff in town. There's a new king of the UFC is what I'm like. I mean, Conor's still the fucking ultimate king. And, you know, I still got some work to pass him. But I believe I'm right there at number two. God, that card in December if you both were on it. Oh, sir.
Starting point is 00:49:42 So much money. Yeah. So, so, so much. Oh. Break records. Paper viewpoints for the king. Paper viewpoints for the king. Last question here for you, Sugar. We know you got a big day of
Starting point is 00:49:53 just being the champ. It's not easy. I know it's not easy. It's the only thing I have scheduled today for you. Only thing I scheduled. Really? Only thing. I'm not doing shit today. I might hit a little light workout, sweat,
Starting point is 00:50:07 a little bit, but nothing crazy. We appreciate that. You're a good man. Go ahead, Tom. Sugar, when you caught him with the right there and he fell on his back, you hesitated for a second. Did you think you knocked him out with the one? Then when you realized he was still awake and he's on his
Starting point is 00:50:23 back, is that just like... Early stoppage, I heard. Yeah, no, it was. I mean, they saved his life. What are your thoughts when he's on his back? Just get as many punches in as you can? Yeah, again, it's kind of a weird space that I'm not really thinking.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Looking back at it, kind of guessing what I was thinking. You know, I landed that right hand, and I've knocked enough people out that I know, and they're fucking out. And I knew he wasn't, but I knew he was very, very hurt. If I would have dropped him and I didn't think he was that hurt,
Starting point is 00:50:56 I would have followed up on the ground right there because of how good he is, even off his back. Ideally, he wants to be on top, but that dude can grapple off his back. He's a black belt grappler, so he's ideally he wants to be on top but that dude can grapple off his back he's a black belt grappler so he's very good everywhere i knew i hadn't heard enough to where i could uh start hammer fisting him my left side of my hand is very sore from bouncing it off of his head like 17 times like boom boom boom boom boom boom just doing that and my fucking hand yeah a little sore hey it was an early stoppage i saw some people saying on the internet you know that yeah i saw i saw some you know it's not it's no one that wanted me to win saying it was an early stoppage it was mostly people that
Starting point is 00:51:36 wanted me to lose the same with the people that said i didn't beat peter yon were the same people that didn't want me to beat peter yon um I could go out there and kill someone, and they would say, yeah, but he could have resurrected you. You know what I mean? You're the best, dude. Congrats, champ. You've earned this. You've earned this.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I assume at some moment you'll look in the mirror, and you might have already done this and said, hey, a lot of hard work has been put in to get to this moment and i talked about you shaving your eyebrows for 50 bucks in 2014 not just because you're willing to do that but because that's where you were not even a decade ago now you got what probably a hundred thousand dollars around you two hundred thousand dollars around you with a title with a i mean you should enjoy this man you've earned every single step of the way here pal yeah thank you that shaving the eyebrows is all tim he's like he always still
Starting point is 00:52:31 to this day tries to get all of our buddies to make bet and my dumb ass didn't even make a bet he just said i'll give you 50 bucks to shave your eyebrows i was like damn i could pay for i could pay for the wi-fi bill for two months if we split it 50-50. So I was like, hell yeah, I'll do that. I didn't have a job, so 50 bucks, I was like. From jobless and eyebrowless to the champion of the fucking world. Enjoy it all, pal. We appreciate you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, your UFC bantamweight champion of the world,
Starting point is 00:53:05 House and Happy dad in a bath around his hundos, Sugar Sean O'Malley. Cheers, buddy. Cheers. Cheers, pal. Cheers. Hell yeah. You know, in that hot tub there, you smoke a little bit, drink a little bit. Well, it gets you going a little bit. You say you might get a little workout in,
Starting point is 00:53:22 sweat a little bit. What a dog, bro. Dana White's lucky as fuck that that guy's in the UFC. Yeah, absolutely. And if it was McGregor, Chandler, and, you know, Sugar Sean versus anybody. Whoever. Yeah, who cares? That would be unbelievable. That would be a great card.
Starting point is 00:53:35 They should save that for Super Bowl. And not a bad idea. Maybe throw in, you know, Jon Jones and Steve Payne. And Elon and Zuck. Elon and Zuck. Elon, Zuck. In the sphere. Yeah, do that whole thing. Yeah. And Elon and Zuck. Elon and Zuck. Elon, Zuck. In the sphere. Yeah, do that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Do that Super Bowl weekend. Brock versus somebody. Billy Butterbean. I do wonder if you're ever going to be able to get Brock back into a fight camp. That'd be awesome if you could. At this stage of life. I don't even care. He doesn't need one.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Seems like he's enjoying what he's doing now. Top three WWE human of all time. You know, at this stage of life. I don't even care. He doesn't need one. Seems like he's enjoying what he's doing now. Top three WWE human of all time. He's been on a marquee for like 22 years. So long. And he's still. Stropped. Properly.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Jocked. Very successful. Let's just bring someone else from the WWE over. No fight camps. Just put him in the. You know who. Yep. Joe. No.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Right. No. That's not who. Who? That. Joe. No. Right? No. That's not who. Who? That's not his name. Who are you talking about? Cena. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:33 No, I don't think John Cena's the right guy. I don't know. Why not? He knows all the people. I think Corbin. You should throw Corbin in the cage. Just let him throw some big rights. Yeah, that would be sweet.
Starting point is 00:54:43 He's a gold glove guy, right? If they take him down, too, I mean, he might get him on one, two, three. Could do the big man versus small man throw Otis in there. That's what everybody was thinking. Otis would be tough. Now he's fighting, though. Otis would be fighting Jon Jones.
Starting point is 00:54:57 He would be. That would be the only issue. I don't think you can fight in the octagon. You have to make weight in 265, I think is what heavyweight. I don't know if Otis is cutting down to 265. You have to get down to 265. There's no like. It can't be over 265.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Well, I mean, you have to weigh in at 265. Yeah. It would have to be a non-sanctioned. It would have to be a non-sanctioned. Non-weight class. I'd watch anything Otis was involved in. I agree. Have you been watching Raw?
Starting point is 00:55:24 Monday? Let's get to a break. You're a bad guy. Monday, as you said. Boy. Monday on Raw has been a way it's been for a long time. Monday Night Football. I've been watching Monday Night Football.
Starting point is 00:55:35 There's a lot of conversation and chatter happening about WWE right now. I believe they are in television negotiations. Saw some pretty cool, oh, with the business side of it. I saw some storyline stuff, too, that they might be. Just some theories on what they could do. Who? With actually Cena coming back and then the LA Knight versus the Miz right now. It would be Cena and LA Knight versus the Miz and whoever Cena.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Austin Theory? Yeah, I think that's who it was, yeah. Oh, wow. The Miz and Austin Theory, huh? Yeah. Beat both of them. No big deal. Pretty terrible guys.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Brutal human beings. Just Miz, bad guy. Austin Theory, bad guy. Adam Cole, bad guy. Rat fuck. Bad people. All these people
Starting point is 00:56:25 Now they did have to Carry me Save my life A couple times All that type of stuff But bad people Bad bad bad bad people Had to make me look
Starting point is 00:56:34 A lot better than I actually Bad people Terrible Bad people Browns fan The Miz Yeah Not really though
Starting point is 00:56:40 He moved out of Cleveland As fast as he possibly could Yeah so is he even real No It's the Miz He's fake Everything's a bit Yep Everything's a gimmick Yeah He's the Miz Not really, though. He moved out of Cleveland as fast as he possibly could. Yeah, so is he even real? No. It's the Miz. He's fake. Everything's a bit. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Everything's a gimmick. Yeah. He's the Miz. He's a terrible person, but. His golf thing is just the biggest heel move of all time. Yeah. I'm going to be the worst golfer here, the slowest golfer here, and the loudest golfer here. Yep. What are you trying to be?
Starting point is 00:56:59 The most heel golfer of all time? I'm the Miz. Yeah. He's got the most heel caddy, too. Everybody here is going to hate you. Job well done. That's what I'm looking for. Where's the target? That is what I'm aiming for.
Starting point is 00:57:13 His caddy, that guy, I'm sure he's not a nice guy. Did he know he was supposed to be taking the clubs out for him, or was that just something that he didn't know came with the job? Forget that. I understand that's a part of it. Him allowing and being a part
Starting point is 00:57:30 of the Miz's conversations about hitting a draw for a bogey from 150 yards out, having to hold it for this hole to count, and this guy partaking in the conversation, that guy should have immediately got kicked off the fucking course.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Like immediately. He's a nice guy. I think he had good energy. But by like hole five, I was like, you're the problem. The Miz is also a part of the problem. But you. You're enabling. You're a part of this.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I'm playing like shit. But what me and Fox are doing, we're bowing out gracefully. We're keeping it moving. We're getting on in everybody's fucking way. It was unbelievable. Club ball swing. The best was he did. The Miz did have a birdie, and he had a celebration that lasted at least two minutes.
Starting point is 00:58:15 AJ is in the middle of the round of his life. Yeah. We got the Miz in this guy. Tearing up the green. I get that, though. Because when you're doubling 36 to 48 holes in a row, if you get a birdie, I mean, those aren't
Starting point is 00:58:30 growing on trees, so you got to go fucking ape shit when you do grab one. I agree. That caddy though needs to shut the fuck up next year. They had a sweet house. They did. He's probably a good guy. I'm sure he is Definitely
Starting point is 00:58:45 Maybe Why are we talking about the Miz? Fuck the Miz Actually we love the Miz No we hate the Miz No we hate the Miz The Miz is a bad guy Terrible guy
Starting point is 00:58:53 Love to hate him Love Look at this guy It's a great morning for some golf That shitty Ian Smirk He loves it dude He golfs like every day I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Lessons. He might be mentally tougher than anybody. Yeah. Well. Just divot after divot after duff after duff after high score after high score after misput after this. And he's like, tomorrow morning, can't wait to get back out there on the range and do it again. Couldn't do it. He looked good, though. He does. He dresses
Starting point is 00:59:22 the part. He does. You should see him address the ball. Yeah. Even the conversations that he's having before the golf shot. Oh, yeah. He does. He dresses the part. He does. You should see him address the ball. Yeah. Even the conversations that he's having before the golf shot. Oh, yeah. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about. That first time we played with him, I thought he was actually good at golf. I was like, oh, shit. He looks like he's really good at this thing. And then we got out there.
Starting point is 00:59:37 He was on the range 45 minutes before us. Yep. Had the best outfit. Here's him getting intro'd for the first tee, obviously. Juice dump. I had the best outfit. Here's him getting intro'd for the first tee, obviously. Juiced up. There's 14 people to our right. 14. Boom.
Starting point is 00:59:54 In the woods. That ball's gone. He's celebrating. Nobody can see him. Nope. Hit a tree. Came back. Classic gimmick.
Starting point is 01:00:02 He's the best. He's the fucking best. Way to go, Miz. Way to go. That catty though is a big He's the best. He's the fucking best. Way to go, Miz. Way to go. That catty though is a big part of the problem. He's leading Miz astray. He should be the one telling him, hey, we're not having this conversation right now. No.
Starting point is 01:00:13 We're 200 yards behind everybody else. Six shots behind. We're also 45 minutes behind pace of play. Right. Strictly because of us. Hit the fucking ball. Shut the hell up and hurry up. What is it?
Starting point is 01:00:23 What club show is it? Does it matter? Fucking hit your driver. Driver off the deck. Off the dick. All Shut the hell up and hurry up. What is it? What club show is it? Does it matter? Fucking hit your driver. Driver off the deck. Alright, let's take a break. AJ Hawk will be on the other side. I can't wait for him. We'll also be joined by Steve Mariucci. In about an hour or so. Mooch, Coach Mooch.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Out of NFL Network. How's he feel about the season ahead? Obviously, he has ties to the Niners. Their best player is not even in training camp. Right. Nobody seems to care. They'll get the deal done. Will they? Al Capone's bodyguard's grandkid is currently holding out.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And we just assume that that's going to get done peacefully? Offense looks good. Hurdy looks good. Fred Warner looks good. I think he can set out. Fred is unbelievable. There was a highlight we just watched. They were shown on TV.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And Fred almost batted ball overhead of guy. Running back check down. Like preseason game one. Give me that thing. Unbelievable football. Yeah, that's a place JT could end up. The Niners? Sam Fran.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Yeah. They're just paying Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, but they can use him in way more ways than Anything Jonathan Taylor gave him 10 carries behind that whole line You're saying at the $4 million mark Yes No one's paying him
Starting point is 01:01:33 That is so far out of my brain Somebody's going to pay him That's the only way the trade's going to happen It's going to have to be a sign in trade I could see a sign in extension Or a sign in this year People are saying maybe the Cowboys. I guess it's because they got 20-some million bucks.
Starting point is 01:01:48 But if they were to do that, that would be interesting with Tony Pollard kind of getting the team for the first time. Maybe the Bengals. That's not really their MO to trade away first-round picks. Joe Mixon just took a pick. You mean the Bears could use him? Panthers maybe, right? Frank Reich?
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah. They signed Miles Sanders in the offseason. But yeah. But they paid a running back. Look at the Colts. We're in the farthest left with money. Yeah, we'll trade him. Somebody else can fucking pay him.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I mean, I guess the Cardinals. Can we not just give him $4 million more guaranteed, make this thing $8 million guaranteed, and say, we'll see you after the season? That's what I feel like is going to happen with another team. And then he can go to free agency. That's what I mean. Why can't we just do that?
Starting point is 01:02:28 I don't think that's going to get it done. I think they realize, hey, this is over and done with. This guy does not want to play for us. And at this point, we don't want him back. Let some other team deal with him. I mean, he had a terrible year last year. No one is giving up a first or the equivalent to a first-round pick. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:02:47 The agent is not doing him any kind of favor right here. We said it earlier. The market is what it is. He's not going to get over $10 million. I don't know how it works. I don't know how it works. There has to be a deal in there somewhere. You would think there's a deal there somewhere.
Starting point is 01:03:04 If you're dealing with reality. Hey, here's the reality of the situation. You're coming off a bad year where we had the number four overall pick as a whole. You were the leader, one of the leaders of this team. Our entire culture crumbled. But I'm pretty sure the agent is not telling them that. No, no, but I'm just saying like the Colts saying, hey, here's this. We know you're only due $4 million next year.
Starting point is 01:03:24 You're one of our best players. We don't want you pissed off. We'll double that to $8 million. Make it fully guaranteed. And then we'll negotiate after the season's over. And this is a brand new offense. You might be incredible in this offense, and the deal we negotiate now isn't where it should be. If you go back to your
Starting point is 01:03:39 form from two years ago, there has to be a deal in there somewhere. But instead, somebody else is going to come in and offer that, and that's going to be acceptable? I doubt it. There's no way. Because they're not going to give up a second-round pick in the sixth or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:54 You got a lot of people saying, well, it's Jim Irsay said there's no value on running back, and then now he's saying that he wants a first-round pick. He's like, Jim Irsay never said that. Jim Irsay never said that. Jim Irsay said that the agents were negotiating in bad faith trying to rewrite the cba that took fucking hours and hours and hours and hours of manpower to make that's all he said well he's not showing value by paying jonathan taylor it's like jonathan taylor's still on a contract in his worst year last year if jonathan taylor was edgar and fucking james right now like if jonathan Taylor was Josh Jacobs. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I think Jim Irsay pays Josh Jacobs. And we would all say pay Josh Jacobs. Yes. But last year, people just forget about this. He was not, it was not good. No. The Colts, he's obviously a very talented player. He's 24 years old.
Starting point is 01:04:40 He can still be great. But the taste in the mouth in indianapolis is not good for that year that he had missing six games with an injury still injured at this i don't know dude i don't know how a deal gets done i there has to be though with the colts somewhere a deal you would think but then you got posts on x basically saying i fuck you now fuck yeah fuck me okay we're all gone then. Seeking for one, though. He might go out there and realize that, okay, this isn't just the Colts that are saying they're not going to give anybody that much money.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Maybe that gives them a slap in the face reality check. Yeah, that's what I think Chris Ballard's potentially doing. Yeah. Yeah, let him go see. Let him go look what's out there. Let him go snoop around. You think this is Chris' call? I think Chris had to probably pitch it to Jim because Jim was probably like, no.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Yeah. No. I'll do it. We're not trading him. He doesn't want to play. Cool. We'll just roll this over another year. We'll see you in 365 days.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Same exact situation. Yeah, I know. As well we'll do. Yeah. And remember, when I die, the NFL will move on. When you're not in the league, NFL will be just fine. So I think Chris probably had to sell him and be like, Jim, can we at least just open their eyes maybe to what to do? Because maybe somebody will go out there and say, hey, we'll pay you this.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And then all of a sudden Chris tells Jim, hey, this team's willing to do this. And then maybe Jim's like, well, that ain't going to happen. I'll do this. So this is good news, I think. He's at practice. They're fighting. Did he join the fights? Probably not.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Didn't have a helmet, though. Right. Exactly. Football! They're fighting. Did he join the fights? Probably not. Didn't have a helmet, though. Right. Exactly. Football! He's happening. There's a little bit of a skirmish on the football Twitter accounts happening as we speak. We'll be boots on the ground on X to
Starting point is 01:06:18 keep everybody updated on who we can trust, who's maybe copying other people. Boston Connors here. Ty Schmidt is here at the toxic table. One half of the hammer Cowboys turn dignors here. Ty Schmidt is here at the Toxic Table. One half of the Hammer Cowboys turn digs is here. The other half of the Hammer Cowboys Bubba Gumpino is back there looking fantastic. Gumpy, Lisa Ann seems to be saying hello now that you're back into the United States of America. She was hot to trot yesterday, that's for sure.
Starting point is 01:06:41 How's it going? A lot of people saying welcome back to America for you. Far too kind to me, Pat. Everybody, far too kind. Yesterday was a cool day, man. There's a lot of love being said on Bubba Gumpino's day after 446 days of hell. That one will go down in history, my friend. Probably best day of my life. Not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:06:56 No, no. It's only going to get better. It's only going to get better. Next day. Gumpy. Today. Yeah, today. It's going to be the best day.
Starting point is 01:07:02 You're in the Hawk House this morning. Always am. Gumpy's been legit. Gumpy has been in the Hawk House every single day he's been in the Thunderdown, which is better than we can say for a lot of people. I was there. Tony even dressed up like he was going to do the gym. Tony was ready to work.
Starting point is 01:07:17 I respect it. He had the coach digs, coach tights with the shorts on, with like a loose shirt on. Tony comes walking through the gym, through the gym. I'm like, holy shit, today's the day. Tone's going to be joining us. We love whenever somebody comes and joins us. Love it. Love it.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Now we know Ty with the baby, probably no shot of that ever happening. And there's others that haven't really dabbled. But Tone Diggs today gave us the biggest, and then walked right out. Walked right out. Then he goes and takes a shower and gets changed. And to his disclose, it's like, oh, you literally just wore pre-show clothes. It wasn't to work out in.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I did the same exact thing yesterday. I come in there and I assess the situation. Every machine's taken. There's nowhere to go. This is in the public gym. You know us. Oh, is it not? That's not true.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Don't point the finger at us for this. You is in the public gym. You know us. Oh, is it not? That's not true. Don't point the finger at us for this. You're on the lifty. Connor's on the fucking other thing. Foxy's right next to him. Nick. Yeah, the lifty was free when you were on. I was already done. No, you're on.
Starting point is 01:08:19 No, I was done. I was working on these. I was working on these. You guys like to tell your stories and paint it how you want to paint it. Everybody saw the story one way. I am disappointed, Tone. I just want to let you know, when I see you dressed the way you dress, I'm like, this guy's never seen it public like this.
Starting point is 01:08:37 This must be workout gear. I got so excited. Like, so happy. So pumped. It was going to remind me of high school football days. I was getting better together here in the Hawks. Everyone's doing it. And then he just turned his ass to us, didn't he?
Starting point is 01:08:53 Cropped us to dust and just walked right on out of there. Hey, breathe this while you're on the Olympic. That's what you did to all of us. I tried. You guys wouldn't let me. Was Bill in there carrying his bags of sand around? He was. I didn't want to get any of that.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Him and Tim McAfee, yeah, they're getting ready for it. I didn't want to get any of that. Him and Tim McAfee, yeah, they're getting ready for it. I didn't want to get any of that. Stairmaster was wide open. Oh, yeah, because that's the thing I want to do. I'll get out of your way. If you need any equipment in there, let me know, Tony. I'll gladly let you in there. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Thank you, Gump. That's what I'm talking about. That's what the United States needs more of. They're trying to keep that guy out. Exactly. Gump has slated himself as the mayor of the Hawkeyes. There has been a lot of talking and moving. It's awesome.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Not a lot of moving of weights, but a lot of talking and grooving. We needed someone like that in the Hawkeyes. Right. That was something we needed. We needed an added distraction. Yeah, needed a mayor. Bad. Yeah, we certainly did.
Starting point is 01:09:37 They're all belting around in the area. I'll tell you what. He's been doing these shoulder things. I fucking love it. I can already see Gump starting to build up. Hey, he's a a hairy bastard though do we know that oh my god dude i was looking at his arm this motherfucker's a grizzly bear he used to use a lot of nair back in the day but i'm looking at his arm i'm like is he ripped at all it's like i don't know bro can we get through your fucking hand you got tricep back? Oh, no. It looks like there's a horseshoe there.
Starting point is 01:10:05 I think. I did not know that. The beard is on his fucking dog. Oh, yeah. It's tough. It's a tough scene. Awesome, bro. 14-year NFL icon, Pac-Man Jones is here.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Hey, Pac. Pac is the Hawk House. Different time. He has his own workout group. He does get after it in there, and we appreciate him. And that Hawk House is named after a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, a COVID survivor, a father of 10, and the man who's the current president of the state of Ohio.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron James Hawk. Yeah! What's up, A to the J? What are you trying to say? You're trying to say Gump is the social director in there? He's not moving any weights? What are you doing? He is moving weights, but in between weights,
Starting point is 01:10:46 we are certainly... I like that he's building... That's what you guys said. The boys were trying to take... I've seen him moving weights. Me too. I wasn't saying it as a negative thing. I was saying he's the one that's trying to recruit people into the Hawkeyes because he's the mayor. He uses the cables, which you remember because you set this place up, right? Yeah, you
Starting point is 01:11:01 thought it through. The cables are right from the entrance of the locker room. Yes he's standing like right in front of everybody that's rolling out of the locker room and gump's like hi how about it uh he just he's just welcoming everybody that's good you need somebody like that yeah we thought we had tone this morning for instance because he was dressed like a guy who's maybe gonna work out and then he had a good conversation with gumpy uh-huh and then we Gumpy. And then he just out of there. Nothing. Not getting better today.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Fuck off. See, that's what he said to us. It was unbelievable. Did Tone grab some of Bill's sandbags that may or may not be filled with dead bodies? Yeah, he wanted to get in there. All the fragments. That's a great... Get a workout outside, maybe.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Accessory to the crowd. You should see. I forget what it was when I found out that we had those bags. I think two weeks ago, I came in here and Tim McAfee was strapping that thing. I was loading up the bench, I think, and I sat up and I'm like, oh, my God. And I see Tim McAfee, jeans on, beater tucked into his pants. He has a baby holder, right? Yeah, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:12:01 And then he's picking up this sandbag. He's putting it on his shoulders. And then he just walked out of the Hawk House. He started doing laps around this gym floor. Just did like 15 laps. And then he came back in and put it down. I'm like, this guy is always in boot camp. What the fuck happened?
Starting point is 01:12:15 G.I. Tim is getting after it. And then a couple minutes later, Bill straps that fucker on his back. He's like, we're fucking squatting right in front of me. I'm like, God damn, we just joined the Marines here. You know what I mean? We got the entire military in the hawk house right now it's a beautiful thing it really is well and it wouldn't affect everyone as much but right before tim did it he told you to put it on you know proud to be an american so all of a sudden the music is kind of being taken over by tim as he's running around the gym floor yeah it's fantastic honestly
Starting point is 01:12:42 the hawk house is quite a vibe You need one of those. Yeah. You know what I mean? You need that. That's why you working out every morning all by yourself in your basement. I understand that. I used to work out alone all the time. I prefer working out alone. I used to at least.
Starting point is 01:12:57 The conversation's in this Hawk House. You forget about the accountability whenever somebody else is there. You know what I mean? Like, if I show up later than Foxy or Connor's already here, or Gumpy's already here, and they're already working out, like I feel like a piece of shit. Oh, yeah. Like I'm thinking about that in the morning. You know, I haven't had that in a long time.
Starting point is 01:13:11 We have gotten better as a human. Yeah. I have gotten better as a human because of the Hawk House. So I appreciate what you've built over here without even knowing it, without even thinking about it, without even being involved in it at all. Your namesake is awesome over here, AJ. I'm glad you guys are using it. Obviously, we could make that whole place a wait room if you wanted to.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I had ideas for pull-up bars throughout different hallways, all kinds of stuff. I talked to Tim about it. We might do it still. Well, I mean. Maybe a sand pit. We'll get a sand pit right in the middle there somewhere. See, you're doing too much. Think of the agility you could do in there.
Starting point is 01:13:44 You know how tired you get working in a sand pit. What is it with these guys in the sand? Who's cleaning it up? Who's these guys? Well, we just put the two par three holes out back. Tiny greens. Tiny greens. Small.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Greens are smaller. It's going to make you better. Make you better. Greens are smaller than this fucking putting green we got in front of the office here. Farther than this space right in between us. 100 yards out, 75 yards out. It's going to be tough to hit.
Starting point is 01:14:05 We've hit it a couple times now. I think next Wednesday morning we're going to set up some cameras out there. We're going to do a hole-in-one challenge where we're just going to go live for an hour straight. And we're just going to hit as many balls as possible and try to hit a hole-in-one out there. And then obviously we'll donate it. It's going to be tough. But, like, are you putting sand traps out there around the green? It's like, who the fuck is cleaning up the sand?
Starting point is 01:14:26 Why would we do that? Are you guys covering it? What are we? Yeah, you're going to break the sand and keep the weeds out and do that. And then also, you want to climb in there and get sand all in your shoes and stuff, hitting 30 balls. You wanted that in our gym. You literally just. Well, no, if you know, hey, if we're going to work out, you're going to shower afterwards.
Starting point is 01:14:42 So I don't care. Today's a sand workout. We know we're showering. We went outside yesterday to hit some balls. Oh, man. You looked like you were glistening. You looked a little bit like you did in Tahoe when you were watching me work out that one time. Dude, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:54 I run hot. Everybody knows I run hot or whatever. But yesterday was thick, bro. We walked outside. The entire club got wet. Yeah. Because it was in here. So it was in here so it's chill and we walk outside whole the shaft and the grip wet immediately and then i walk out and i start
Starting point is 01:15:12 sweating like immediately i'm a hole i'm sick like i think i'm sick i think there's something wrong with my inner yeah my inner body and then i go i'm dripping and everybody's already was like god damn worst day for us to get these par threes. Yeah. Because half the use it, but also might die out there. Is this normal? It's going to be like that all week, and I think we're in record high territory. Dog days of August.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Yeah. It's going to be bad. Yep. Training camps out there everywhere. Oh, my God. These high school kids. Because obviously, now that the Bengals have an indoor facility, you're assuming that NFL
Starting point is 01:15:45 teams have a way to play in a controlled environment. Colleges, too. Most of them. You assume. High school kids is who you've got to worry about right now. Their training camps are all over though, right? Just regular practice. I know Iowa,
Starting point is 01:16:01 Friday night, they'll have their first game. They just have regular practice. You know,, Friday night, they'll have their first game, so they just have regular practice. You know, though, how fucking tiring that first game is, and if it's also fucking 95 degrees, that's going to be tough. So, we start next Friday, I think. I think it's this.
Starting point is 01:16:17 I think it's this Friday. Okay, a lot of people started last Friday. Yeah, they started last Friday. Hey, how'd we do? We did good. We won. 2-8-0 first, second quarter. Nephew did really good. He had a buck 50, two thuds. Normal day in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Buck 50, two thuds. Obviously, you're supposed to do that, but then to actually back it up. Yeah, sure. That is fantastic. First game. St. X, 10-zip. By the way, Chase Herbstreitfeated. Okay. In the junior campaign. I mean, that team's going to get going.
Starting point is 01:16:47 How's Centerville going? They're 1-0. They're doing well. Did you speak to the boys, the Elks? Hell yeah. Did I speak to them before their first game? No, I did not. Damn.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Why? Why do you hate your high school? They're in great hands. They're in great hands with Brent Ory as the head coach. Brent, I played with in high school. His dad was my coach. And then Brent came to Ohio State and walked on as a receiver, too, when I was there.
Starting point is 01:17:09 He's a great coach. High school football special. Let's keep an eye on all these kids because Al-Hal is outside. And also, you know, smart people, let's figure out how to make it not be as hot. Now, might be something that's uncontrollable. Maybe. Might be.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Come on, smart people. Come on. Hey, smart people. Come on, Connor. And there's going to be people out there that are like, we tried. Remember, we're telling you to get these cows to stop pooping. Yep. We got to do all this other stuff.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I thought you said that. You said you stopped them from farting, or that smart people are almost there. Yeah, they poked holes in the cow's stomach, let out the methane. They've been doing that. Really? Mm-hmm. I didn't know. Just draining it?
Starting point is 01:17:44 Yeah, legitimately draining it yeah legitimately draining it like uh it's almost when people like take the pens for instance and hijack when the doctor takes the pen and pokes the dude so he could breathe that's exactly what they're doing with cows except they're just letting out the methane gas and then where's that going just out into the world isn't that the same problem we've been having i i don't know pretty much but don't they cover it whenever they're not stabbing the side and letting the methane gas out and it's coming out through a fart? Isn't some of it potentially baked in a poop?
Starting point is 01:18:10 So then we're not getting all of it out? Now we're just leaking it all without the poop? I don't understand what smart people are doing. I don't like it. All I know is it's not working. It's hot as fuck. Can you see what's going on on the West Coast? Figure it out.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Or maybe, maybe this is just Earth. Yeah, there's a chance. You think about Pangea. If that was the thing, was there cows farting that made the Pangea separate? Dinosaurs farting, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Could have been that. Because maybe Earth just kind of does stuff that we can't control. Yeah. That's a shame. Well, there's a lot of stuff we can't control. Well, you can. You drive an electric car.
Starting point is 01:18:53 You're the one helping. I tried, didn't I? I fucking tried. I was told this would help. I said, you got it. That seems expensive, but you got it. And then I did it. You know what I mean? And then we found out.
Starting point is 01:19:00 But then now I'm walking outside. I'm dripping in sweat for no reason. It's harder than it's ever been. Exactly. And they got tropical storms in L.A. Yeah. Tropical storms. They don't even have rain in L.A.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Now they got tropical storms. You can tell they don't. What? What do you mean? What do you mean, Tone? What's that mean? Expand, please. I mean, just the geography is just not good for rain there.
Starting point is 01:19:22 The land. The land. The land. It sounded like you were talking about the humans. No, no, no. We had this conversation with Tone yesterday where it was like, Tone, a lot of people are going through it right now in L.A. or whatever. He's like, yeah, sorry, L.A.'s just not used to what?
Starting point is 01:19:35 It's sprinkling a little bit? It's like he's talking about like the actual drainage and shit. Topography. It feels like, you know, because like rain. Dodger Stadium was half underwater Oh yeah, bingo, yeah It's like, in terms of like, how much rain They get six inches in that whole thing
Starting point is 01:19:50 Tone's basically saying like The city was not prepared for this It's like, no shit It doesn't rain there The whole state as a whole, geographically speaking Boom, die Anyways, feels like a lot of crazy shit's happening And we would like people to figure it out for us Because we're trying to do our thing physically speaking all right well said anyways feels like a lot of crazy shit's happening and
Starting point is 01:20:05 we would like people to figure it out for us because we're trying to do our thing talking about sports you guys do your thing just make this not happen anymore it's way too hot out there yeah and in la ain't ready for tropical storms no and anything else you guys got cooking we ain't ready for it so figure it out please yeah in la they're they're gonna be okay you know i saw a report on the Internet earlier that Biden's going to go and just sleep for a half hour when he's meeting with the families of the homes that were destroyed over this storm. He would have knocked out, wouldn't he? That would be nice. That would be a nice little thing.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I did hear that there was not a mahalo welcome. No, there was not. There was not a lot of mana there when his motorcade was rolling off. That's what the video that I saw as well. So that made it a New Yorker algorithm as well. That made it my way. Yeah, and then they started breaking down the numbers, I guess, last night on Nightly News.
Starting point is 01:20:54 He gave $700 to everybody there, lost everything in their entire life. A total of $8 million has been given, and then the next step, we just gave another $600 billion to some other country. Okay. All right. You can see how people could potentially be like, hey, pal, what the hell is going on? But with that being said, hey, smart people, figure it out. Figure it out.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Figure it out. That's what you get for being smart. Figure it out. He saved that dog's paws, though. His dog's paws were burning up on the asphalt. He said, hey, better get that dog off the asphalt. It's actually smart. Man, I'm trying to... I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:28 He looked out for a canine. He saved that pooch. Alright, we should put that in the good column. Where was that? That was in Hawaii? Yeah. Was that one of his German shepherds? Was that his dog that's biting people? Normally, my dog would be biting somebody right now. His feet must be burning. Come on.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Get him off of there. It's Hawaii, Sarge You can't be on the cement Is that what he did? Yeah, because this one's biting everybody, isn't it? That's how it is Last thing I learned, I kind of like that, by the way If I'm the president And I got my dog
Starting point is 01:22:00 And this buck is just like, nobody's getting near this Ever, I'm like, I appreciate that dog. With that being said, going to be a problem for everybody else. Going to be a problem for everybody else. Put shoes on, goal retriever. Sweet, actually. I assume in Hawaii they're going to do this a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:16 With the duct tape shoes on there. No, they're spatted. Oh, you're right. Did you see some of those dogs though they were like they'll go through like wooden is like burnt oh they're crazy what they can do they're unbelievable finding people finding whatever they need yeah but like one leg will be down through like four wooden things with very sharp edges another one will be up on top here
Starting point is 01:22:41 and then they somehow just are dancing around it without getting just sliced or everything. It was really remarkable to watch. It's like those fucking goats. Yeah, on the side of the mountains. On the mountains that are just able to just like bounce and walk up. It's like, how are you able to do that? Then I think there's like jungle cats that have the ability to like sprint through like rocks and shit. It's like, how are these animals able to do?
Starting point is 01:23:04 They're better than us. Which, once again, animals do your thing. Smart people figure it out. Okay? We'll do the sports. We need you guys to figure... It's too fucking hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Maybe get some fans. Remember what they did in Couture? Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. At the stadium. Put fans in them. Killed all those people. Well, that was before.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Yeah. Plus, that's just protocol. Okay? They kill people over there. Who cares? It is getting to a point with this particular program where it is impossible to say anything without it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:32 It's not our fault. No, because we see too much. We see everything. We see too much. We've been doing it too long. We know too much. Yeah, that's the problem. There's other things going on in Hawaii I want to bring up
Starting point is 01:23:42 and the other country, but you just can't. We need to get men in black. We need to get just can't. We need to get men in black. We need to get men in black. We need to talk about Oprah's land. We need ayahuasca to kind of just get reset so we don't. We need football. That's what we need. You think?
Starting point is 01:23:55 You think? Yeah, I'm thinking we do. Saw another batch of Connor t-shirts that are going to make their ESPN debuts. Those should be good. Oh, yeah. Those will be full conversations. Speaking of conversations, those will be awesome. There will be no political t-shirts on this particular program.
Starting point is 01:24:17 That's a good rule. Save those for conversation. Remember, our show is a big, hey, political people, figure it out. That's right. That's what you guys are supposed to do. Figure it out. Now, I will say, from a casual noob eye, these motherfuckers don't figure out shit.
Starting point is 01:24:32 No, no, no, no. You know what I mean? They don't figure out a damn thing ever, it feels like. But if it's a catastrophe, that's the only way it's making its way to me. So I don't think I get to see the day-to-days. You know what I mean? If it's getting into my algorithm, mostly sports stooge algorithm, it is really bad.
Starting point is 01:24:48 So I'm seeing the worst, I think, of both. Hopefully. Right? I mean, yeah. You just got to tell yourself that. That's really all you can do. This has got to be the worst. I don't think any of the X's any good.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Both sides, though, got humans that can't talk. Oh, yeah. That are ahead of talking jobs. That's right. Hey, you know what? You're going to run a talk show. You can't talk, that are ahead of talking jobs. Hey, you know what? You're going to run a talk show. You can't talk. Politics is talking. Isn't it?
Starting point is 01:25:11 Isn't that what politics is? Talking and debating. Hawk? You're a president. You're talking to me. You are. What do you think, Franker? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:22 My bad. I got distracted by a picture that somebody popped up in the group chat. I won't open that again. It was something to do with the dog paws and everything. Nothing crazy. Is that the Island Boys and a carrot? No. I thought that was debunked anyway.
Starting point is 01:25:36 No, that was not debunked. It was actually shoved in my face right over there. Oh, the carrot was? That's what he got distracted by. What? I was just patting a he got distracted by. What? It makes sense. Judge is patting a dog. Oh, is this a cat?
Starting point is 01:25:48 All right. That's what I'm saying. We can't have that. I thought, does this mute thing work or no? Yeah. Listen, you need to know what I'm saying. Anyways, hey, smart people. Figure it out.
Starting point is 01:26:02 We appreciate you. We appreciate you doing it. I can't take his heat much longer. My body type is one that dies out there. You know what I mean? You put me in the cold, I'm good. Look at me, bro. I burn the second I walk outside.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Yeah, but you've seen me. Whenever you're getting out working with the body guru, I'm almost dead on a deck. You saw it almost happen. That is true. Because the heat in the sun is undefeated against me. And everybody attacks my skin color all the time. You ever see that? Anytime I'm in the sun.
Starting point is 01:26:33 You look tan. The things people say about my skin tone is just very rude. I was about to be so red. Man, this guy's having a heart attack looking all red, this fucking guy. This guy, look how, his red face. So many people told you you're somber. Yeah, everybody.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Yeah, we know. Yeah, no shit, bro. I'm 100,000 degrees inside, dude. I'm cooking from the inside and the outside. I'm getting broiled and baked, cuz, okay?
Starting point is 01:26:56 I get it. I have to be here, though. I said, which leads me, once again, I'm not going next year. I'm not fucking doing it. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:27:04 I'm not going next year. At this moment, I'm not going next year. I'm not fucking doing it. I'm done. I'm not going next year. At this moment, I'm not going. Somebody else deserves it. Let's talk about somebody else deserving something. Jonathan Taylor has been given the right to go negotiate a trade, if he can find one. Now, the Colts are expecting a first round or the equivalent to a first round in trade,
Starting point is 01:27:19 and we don't know what Jonathan Taylor is expecting out of another team, whether it's a sign-in trade like others have done in the past, whenever they're in a standoff for negotiation-wise with their own team. How do you see this panning out? He is in Philadelphia. He still has the hoodie up and the sunglasses and being distant from the Indianapolis Colts. Has to be incredibly uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:27:38 What are your thoughts, AJ, for how it's all kind of working out? And this brand-new development of Chris Ballard and the Colts saying, go ahead and find one if that's what you want. If that's what you want, go ahead. How do you feel about it, AJ? I mean, it's tough to figure it out. This one threw me for a loop, the fact that he's at joint practices with the shades on, with the hoodie up, all of that.
Starting point is 01:28:00 It can't be – I mean, it's not a good situation at all, but I guess it can't be the worst possible situation when he's actually there. If they – I don't know. Usually when something's like that, yeah, you want to get it away from the team. Don't let it pull down our culture and distract from us. But he's also your best player. He could be your best player at the same time.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Pac-Man, have you ever had a teammate who is clearly telling everybody, I won't be teammates with any of you. And sticking with it. Like, I thought maybe two, three days. Not just teammates, by the way. Equipment managers, training room, chef, PR people, social media people, doctors, everybody that goes into an NFL process. When I heard it was happening the first few days about him being standoffish,
Starting point is 01:28:44 I'm like, all right, this is going to happen probably a week. But I think his stick-to-itiveness here is admirable if he gets a deal done in business-wise, but not easy to accomplish either on Jonathan Taylor's side because I assume he likes a lot of the people that are in there. But you have to, for the sake of your business and your mind, have to kind of remain stone cold and kind of standoffish. I'm almost impressed by it, to be honest stone cold and kind of standoffish i'm almost impressed by it to be honest at this stage of the game i'm almost impressed that you're in
Starting point is 01:29:08 the building in the locker room in meetings and still have the ability to be like yeah fuck everybody that's that's almost impressive yeah and and i've been in a lot of locker rooms where leaders and the older guys you know i mean can mean, can get things done, I should say. But I just don't see nothing good happening out of this. Like, he's in a lose-lose situation because he's up on the contract. And, like, I go back and say it again. Like, the agent has to stand up and tell the player, I know you might not want to hear this,
Starting point is 01:29:41 but you got to understand where we at right now. Where we at right now is not where we was at a year ago. Yeah. Reality. Reality. Yeah. And I just think, and like he said, he's there. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 01:29:54 And I hate judging books by its cover. You know, he got the hoodie on, got his sunglasses on. Shit, it might be hot. But at the end of the day, for the things that keep coming out, like, I don't know. I don't know i don't know and the colts are they at are they at the point where to your i think what you said earlier ty where they're like we need to get this guy away from our team right is that why they're allowing a trade or are they potentially saying yeah go look and see what the market's saying then come back and see how rude of people we are you know what i mean that's what i took from it that's how
Starting point is 01:30:23 i took from it when a team says hey go seek a trade they're thinking if you can find something that someone's willing to give you to find something better than you have here then we're willing to to figure it out for you you can put in the jack nichols or jack nichols putter that i just bought into the with the tell tell also the muhammad ali punching yeah put that in there too so tell the other team because this is what we've been telling teams that hasn't been able to work out. They get the Muhammad Ali gloves. They get the putter.
Starting point is 01:30:52 They get the scripture. And they get Jonathan Taylor. Now, need a first-rounder back. Right. And it's going to happen. Who's going to give a first-rounder? No way. No way nobody is giving a first-rounder.
Starting point is 01:31:02 I know he's 24 years old, but ain't no team right now is giving a first round for a running back. He doesn't throw the football. So, no, yeah, they're not. Then you have to give him a deal, too, then, on top of that. So, what if. Impossible. Now, I don't even know who I would text and ask this question to. And if they would give me either a real answer or even answer at all.
Starting point is 01:31:23 I said in the last hour, and I think I've said the last few days after you bring up the point of like, there has to be a deal somewhere. We can get you more money. We can get you like $2 million, $3 million more bucks, right? Like he's making $4 million. All right, we'll give you $3 million more guaranteed with another million in incentives. We have $16 million on the cap right now.
Starting point is 01:31:42 We're probably going to even have more once you start doing some stuff. And I know you've got to save it. We're on the left pillar of the amount of money left. One, two, three, four. Like, we have a lot of money left on the salary cap space. That's why when you start thinking about teams that will be able to pay him and trade for a one, which is what would have to happen here, you've got to start looking at who has salary cap space to do as such.
Starting point is 01:32:03 The Dolphins don't have any space after this season, right? They're kind of in, they're in cap space. Still got to pay Wilkins this year too. Wilkins is holding out right now. Oh yeah. So I mean, there is a lot to figure out down there. You start looking around the spots and then you see like the Colts have 16 and a half million dollars they can spend. So they could easily, if they wanted to. Now this would be them giving in. Yeah, exactly. Appearing to lose. And maybe in their head setting precedent for something that happens later with another player.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Right. Who was good for a couple years and then bad on his third year out of his contract. So it's like maybe they just don't want to give in out of like precedence or out of like a moral standard. We're not doing this after everything we said. But if you just give him like two2 million more, $3 million more, and he realizes that the rest of the league has nothing else for him, will that make him finally settle in to your case about what reality is? I'm not sure. And is Jim even willing to do that?
Starting point is 01:32:56 Is Jim Irsay thinking, go ahead and look. Anybody paying you? No. Exactly. $4 million. I'll talk to you next February. Is that what he's thinking? See, I think it's more of that because you look at the situation with like Eckler,
Starting point is 01:33:06 where like he made it known that he wasn't happy, but he was still a consummate pro throughout the whole thing. Like didn't miss any time, like said, hey, if nothing happens, like, you know, I'd like a trade. But if that doesn't happen either, like I'll show up, I'll be here. And when you have a new culture and a new team, like, is that what they want to do right away? It's like, hey, this guy went about everything the wrong way trying to get a new deal. We can't just turn around, especially when we have younger guys and we're trying to kind of – Anthony Richardson's right there.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Exactly. We can't reward this guy for doing something that we've been saying the whole time, like, hey, this is not how you act like a professional. This isn't the way you go about things. Are they going to just say, well, fuck it. You're one of the best players on our team. We need you, so we'll just – we'll cave in and give you four million extra bucks. And then, like you said like everyone who's gonna come
Starting point is 01:33:48 next like this is the playbook it's like hey guess what you can you can be a horse's ass you can do whatever you want to do if you're good enough like they will cave in and they'll pay you but look he was he wasn't even better than Eckler. Eckler was an okay back I think he didn't even have a thousand yards yeah he did have what double, double digits? He had 1,500 total yards, though. But I'm saying rushing yards. He had 900, I think, and some change. But he do score a touchdown. 861 yards, I think.
Starting point is 01:34:13 What did Eckler get? Two more million dollars? He had six million dollars. And had better numbers? You're getting four million dollars? A two million dollars? I mean, look at Eckler right next to Jonathan Taylor there. Yeah. Rushing yards.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Eckler is not, that's not like the only thing he does, obviously. No. 107 receptions. 722 receiving yards. Oh, sir. And that was my point, too, is Eckler didn't go about it like an asshole. He did it the right way. So it was like, okay, we can find some middle ground here,
Starting point is 01:34:42 and we'll give you an extra $2 million. And Eckler's number is way better than Taylor. Right. Yeah. And same with Josh and Saquon and even Najee. And Saquon, he's damn near going to make the argument he got screwed the most out of all of them. He didn't get his fourth year or his fifth year option picked up,
Starting point is 01:34:59 so he's playing with no contract. And then he plays unbelievable, obviously. I think he scored, I don't know if it was one or two touchdowns against the vikings in the playoffs and then he doesn't get a deal he gets a franchise tag stays out and then you know maybe because he's not signing the tag he'll get something we all think jonathan taylor can be a great football player we are not saying that he's not but we're just saying whenever you talk about business and negotiating with the fucking nfl coming off your worst year where you're by far the worst guy in the market and then you're handling it the loudest and worst might not be the best way to go about doing business.
Starting point is 01:35:33 But he still might end up with a deal somewhere. So we're pulling for him. We're pulling for him. We're pulling for you. Speaking of pulling for somebody, I think Joe Burrow is healthy. Now, that is with no sources. I have not seen him at all, and nobody out of Cincinnati has said that. But Zach Taylor laughing and joking about what answer he gives to not only us,
Starting point is 01:35:55 their local media, the press, every time he talks about Joe Burrow, makes me think like he is not worried at all. We've seen videos since his calf injury of Joey Burrow wearing a catapult sports bra jogging across the field. Appears to have no limp in his gait. We saw him throwing a football perfectly fine. They have not stressed anything other than the progress is happening the way it is happening.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Feels like Joey Burrow is good. I feel like there is nothing to worry about in Cincinnati. And his contract should be happening soon as well. We're about to get a lot of Joey Burrow news, we think. I think life is great for Burrow. He just got engaged, too. Okay!
Starting point is 01:36:31 Whoa, Joe! Pop the question. Did she ask him or did he ask her? I have no idea in the hell who asked who. Yeah, because if he did a middle training camp, I mean, this guy is able to handle a lot of different things. Good calf, too, if he can get down on one knee. Bingo.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Smart guy. A lot of nerves there, too, so probably a little adrenaline. Yeah. So what's it going to be like game day? Because, you know, when you get all hopped up and zeeked up, sometimes your muscles overfire and they can kind of boil out. That's right. You know, that's kind of what happens.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Him, real nervous. Oh, my God, this is a forever thing. High pressure. He goes down. His calves could be at full absolute flex. Walk out. He goes down perfectly. Excuse me, will you be a fucking burrow?
Starting point is 01:37:12 Pops up. He was like, I think I'm good. Takes a five-step drop right when he gets up. Took the ring. Yep. Yeah. Throws it to her in the ring box. Put your hand up like this. Put it right on her arm too. Alright, so we're thinking he's good, right? No worries at all about Joey Burrow.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Are you thinking the same thing, AJ? I'm not worried because if it's truly a calf strain, a calf pull, whatever, those will eventually get better. It shouldn't linger. It shouldn't be a problem. The way Zach Taylor speaks about it wouldn't be the way that he speaks about it if it was an actual problem is what we're thinking, right now we're talking heads.
Starting point is 01:37:46 We cover shit every day. We're a part of the problem. We know. Okay. We do a part. So we do have to read body language and the answers that are given to us in the moment. And we might be completely wrong two months from now,
Starting point is 01:37:57 but also we might've been ahead of things because we're seeing, Oh, Instagram posts are changing a little bit. Things are removing pictures and likes from stuff. This might be the cause of a little bit of, maybe we should keep an eye on this. The way Zach Taylor's answering right now is that of a head ball coach who knows that his quarterback is A-OK.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Right? We all agree? Yes, absolutely. From everything I've seen from him, yeah, I believe. Okay, good. Let's just fucking move along. Stephen A. Smith came back from a four-month break. Finally.
Starting point is 01:38:22 You guys see that? Oh, yeah. About time. Came back on first. Four months. I don't know. It felt like that. It's. Finally. You guys see that? Oh, yeah. About time. Came back on first. Four months. I don't know. It felt like that. It felt like that, dude.
Starting point is 01:38:28 We obviously watch every morning, you know, and anytime Greeny's not on, there's an immediate text. Hey, what the fuck? You're killing us. He's like, sorry. Sorry, McAfee. What do you want me to do? I've been doing this for 35 years.
Starting point is 01:38:40 There's no news. I took a week off. Sorry. Sorry. Get off my ass, pretty much. And then Stephen A., same thing. We've gotten to a point where I can just text him, what the fuck? What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:38:50 And he said, I'm back next week. I'm back next week. He came back full force. Hot. A lot of energy, a lot to talk about. He said his sources told him, Diggs don't want to be in Buffalo. Oh. And I'm actually, I was thinking to myself, like, damn, did he get this source, like, before his vacation when Stephen or Stephon Diggs in Buffalo was still in the middle of that thing?
Starting point is 01:39:09 And he was, like, sitting on, I got something. I got something. And did he miss all the, that has come from there? You know, and obviously Diggs went public and said, I don't know who this person is getting this information from. Yeah, bullshit. 100% not true. I don't know who the source is, but I thought I nipped this shit in the bud already. Now, obviously, that's a butt.
Starting point is 01:39:29 You're trying to nip something in, but I appreciate that you're nipping in the bud as well. Is that what you're doing? No, I think that's correct. I think it's the right way. Really? Like a flower? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:40 I've been nipping somebody in the butt. People get nipped in the butt. I'm going to nip this right in the fucking butt. Yeah, that one works too. Yeah, maybe I need to put shin guards on for this particular battle because I thought it was definitely butt. I appreciate the fact that I just learned something through there. But he is saying that is not true.
Starting point is 01:39:56 But I think it might have been true at one time is what we need to continue the conversation. I think Stephen A did hear that at one time. One on break came back. I got something. It is no longer the case. But everything out of Buffalo, right? With the way they played against the Steelers, preseason game.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Of course. With the Leslie Frazier thing. With Stephen A saying, my sources are telling me at least at one point, he wanted to completely get out of there, which I think we all kind of knew. Are we worried about the Bills? I'm going to let you give this answer, even though you're very biased. Are we worried about it?
Starting point is 01:40:28 I'm not worried about the Bills. I fucking love the Bills. Brandon Bean just shot a what? A 76 at a PGA or a 78 at a PGA course. Jordan Poyer's all the way back. Josh Allen, he's on the market out there living. Oh, yeah. On the cover of Madden.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Exactly. They're going to be great. They're going to be great. Yeah, I mean. Everything, though, seems to be bullshit. Everything is weird, yeah. And I am definitely not looking for Bills' success whatsoever. But I think Von Miller said this, I believe it was either the offseason
Starting point is 01:40:54 or right before the end of last season. Like, they have Josh Allen. They're not just going to be a bad football team. They're going to be in it no matter what. Now, obviously, the division's tougher with Rodgers being there. If Tua's healthy, they beat the Bills once last year when Tua did play, lost
Starting point is 01:41:09 the other two, one of them being in the playoffs, but as a division, you're still looking at the Bills. It's not as if all of a sudden, because Rodgers is here, the Jets are the favorite. The Bills are still the clear-cut favorite, and if you're looking at the offensive lines in the AFC East, there's a chance that they still have the best one, so I not worried about the bills per se but this it does feel like this
Starting point is 01:41:30 year if it's not this year next year alan's cap goes up to like 60 or 55 and then it's really going to get dice everything chatting about the bills aside from brandon being shooting a 78 and earning 50 000 to two different charities on this program, has just been like, this is what the bills are right now. Just fucking, ah, bullshit. This guy's mad. This guy hates it. This guy wants out. This guy ain't got it anymore.
Starting point is 01:41:54 This guy's still hurt. Isn't that what it is? Last year, it was like, you're going to win the Super Bowl. This team's going to be great. This year, just very different conversation. Ah, they're playing against the Steelers. Steelers start to beat the shit out of them. Bang!
Starting point is 01:42:07 It's just like a never-end, isn't it? It feels like that. It is. It might be a good thing, though, because if you remember last time of this year, everyone's crowning them champs, basically, and saying they're going undefeated. How do you stop this team? There's weapons everywhere. Their defense is good.
Starting point is 01:42:20 So maybe they're sitting in a good spot. Maybe the head coach McDermott likes where they're at. Hey, guys, put some chips on your shoulder. Here we go. No one thinks we're good anymore. Yeah, and that's what's happening with the Jets. That's why I feel like there's almost too much Jets right now because that's exactly what Buffalo was last year.
Starting point is 01:42:35 And I bet the Bills are probably more pumped about how this year's going because everything that you're reading is on the show. But they're fans, I assume. I'm not thinking about the Bills as a whole. The Bills fans, though. I think there has to be a little bit of like, what? 365 days. What a difference.
Starting point is 01:42:50 They may be cautiously optimistic right now because of what's happened in the offseason and the preseason so far. But I'm sure, like, Bills fans are smart. They know, hey, we know when the regular season comes, that's when we can make a judgment of what our team is. Well, Bills is going to be good anyway, as long as they can stay healthy. They had a lot of injuries last year in key positions and they still got through it
Starting point is 01:43:09 and played pretty good into the playoff game I think. But if they can stay healthy, I think they're going to be a top contender team. Complete. We all agree with that. I am a massive fan of Buffalo Beals. I'm just saying yet another day passes and the only conversation about the Bills
Starting point is 01:43:25 is some more negative bullshit. And it's like, this wasn't what it was a year ago. This wasn't what it was two years ago. Into both of you guys, maybe this is a good thing. Maybe this is the thing that'll be able to right the ship long term. Maybe some motivation will get built back on the shoulders. But I don't know if these boys will need any more of that after what has happened in the last couple years. I feel like part of it has been tempered, too, because, you know, like, yeah, all the excitement with the Jets, and obviously you're going to get that when Rodgers goes there.
Starting point is 01:43:51 But, like, last year it was Bill's Chiefs, and then the Chiefs kind of just proved, like, hey, this is still their league. Like, everyone is playing in the Chiefs' league. Like, they are in the middle of a dynasty right now. So, like, it's hard to put any team – like, the Chiefs are the chiefs are the clear-cut favorite period so like every other team kind of just falls by the wayside and like yeah they could be contenders to to beat the chiefs but until until someone actually does like the nfl is still the the chiefs league all right let's get to the phones as we will pick up this conversation in the next hour when Steve Mariucci will join us.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Do you have any questions for AJ? I mean, I would assume he's going to have some questions if you keep that one shin pad on, don't you think? Yeah, who? Who are you talking about? Mooch is going to ask.
Starting point is 01:44:56 He gets it. He knows what it's like out here on the front lines. Yeah, it's all right. He knows what it's like just taking it on the fucking shins. Yeah, exactly. Hey, that first swing on this bat was pretty. Did it catch you? I wanted to get a good pop.
Starting point is 01:45:09 It's a good commercial for that company that makes that. CCM, hell yeah. They've been in hockey equipment a long goddamn time. Honestly, that looks normal. You could wear one shin guard and no one would even think anything of it from now on. For real. That matches your clothes. Could you imagine?
Starting point is 01:45:23 Just wear it. You could wear whatever you want now. What's up, bro? For real. Fashion you imagine? Just wear it. Like, you can wear whatever you want now. What's up, bro? For real. Fashion, dude. Yeah. Fashion. You don't get it.
Starting point is 01:45:31 From the McAfee Collection. Oh, I'm sorry. You don't understand fashion. You are a slob. Shut the fuck up. This is a shin pad. Yeah, duh. Duh.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Welcome to 2030 pal Bang Everyone needs those right now On this show? What did he say about It's not a cat It's not unwarranted It's not unwarranted
Starting point is 01:46:00 Okay He doesn't need shin pads actually He can do anything he wants, as we've seen. Let's go to the phones. Especially his boy. Jesus. I don't understand why his boy wanted everything to be on camera. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:46:17 I don't understand that. Me neither. Save some moments for yourself. Everyone knows you can't do coke in your parents' house, especially if it's the White House, okay? All right. You got to keep that outside. All right.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Jeez. Jeez. Everyone knows that. I heard that they didn't find out who's cocaine. Yeah, they can't figure it out. It's a mystery. No one's ever going to be able to know. Did you see, though, they actually have green lit.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Whoa. Lincoln, we don't think Lincoln was smoking. They used it for medical purposes back then. He got a lot done. Yeah. He's pretty skinny. A lot of work ethic. Yeah, very tall.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Had a beak on him, too. You don't want to eat this stuff, Abe. What do you think he kept in that hat? You think there's like a full mirror in there and like a whole thing? Kilo of love. What was that, a full kit? Yeah. All right, let me go ahead and bring this thing up.
Starting point is 01:47:05 What if Abe was, hold on to say, was just out there breaking rocks every single day? That looks like it could hold a good amount of cocaine. That's a good impersonation of Abe. That was Johnny Depp, I think. Yeah. That show is also nuts.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Jeez. Nice shot. Thank you, AJ. Were you good at soccer throw-ins? Yeah, I did a flip throw at one point back in the day just to be a fucking asshole. I've been trying to get kids to do that flip throw forever. They never do it. That's going to be a huge shot. I must have.
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Starting point is 01:47:57 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Yeah, boys, that's what's happening. Not going to need it. Not going to need it.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Not even a little. That one went out of bounds, right? Bent so much because it hit the exact corner of the metal. Perfect. Probably lost air in. Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, that was great. That was Kawhi Leonard.
Starting point is 01:48:20 That's good news. That was sweet. Yeah. That means the next hour is going to be awesome. I mean, that was beautiful. Wow. Not going to need it. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Didn't hit the top, did it? No, that was one of the four. Sure did. Yeah, unfortunately, that might not count in a game, but it counts here. It counts in this game. I'm standing out of bounds. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:48:44 For the sake of the argument, You're right. All right. Thanks, AJ. Thanks, AJ. I appreciate you knowing that. I'm just trying to keep this from my company. Way to kill my company. Thanks, AJ.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Bruce, I'm sorry. I don't want to be Bruce Walsh. That's all right. You're saving us from the corrections later. Thank you. Actually, it wasn't a bucket because it did touch out of bounds
Starting point is 01:49:01 as a full thing. Bruce, have you thought about this at all more? We don't want to do this, right? This is not something we want to actually do? I mean, up to you. You're in, though. You want to do it.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually got the uniform. I just need a patch. That is the uniform, right, isn't it? Yeah, basically. The badge? Yeah. A uniform every day?
Starting point is 01:49:20 The corrections badges. It's just a... Yeah, it's just waist up. Oh, okay. It's just a little shirt. Because remember, we're going to have boots and a baton. Right, yeah. Walk around here whistling and swinging the baton.
Starting point is 01:49:31 It's going to be like the Stanford Project. Oh, please. He's going to do the whole thing. Yeah, but instead we just decided just probably something to just throw over top. Throw that on, maybe some fake glasses. Correctional officer. Oh, like WWE superstar, the Big Boss Man.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Let's go to the fence. Yes, exactly, Nick. What did Big Boss Man do at that one funeral? Yeah, he fucking dragged Big Show's dad's casket right behind him. Put it on a winch and fucking just took that thing out. Old buddy rode that thing out, too. That's the greatest clip of all time. By far the best thing they've ever done
Starting point is 01:50:05 in the history of wrestling. It's up there. Yeah, it's definitely up there. No one batted an eye when that aired back in the day either. That was like normal. Did you see
Starting point is 01:50:12 a big boss man do it? A big boss man just took Big Show's dad out. He's dead. In a casket. They're at work the next day. He's talking to his fucking in the coffin.
Starting point is 01:50:20 I saw this morning The Rock speaking Mandarin in the States which was pretty cool. Here we go. Here we go. He gets a free ride on this thing. What?
Starting point is 01:50:31 They spent a lot of money on this shoot. What are you talking about? What do you mean? Yeah, this is a shoot. Yeah, the casket was very expensive. Big Show was a handsome fella at that point, too. Still is. What are we talking about? Everybody's saying a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:50:43 The poor people crying. Come on. Yeah, it's a funeral. Of course they're crying. Obviously. He's seething. Not today. Well. It's a big show. He's not happy.
Starting point is 01:50:59 He had that leather jacket on, too, for the funeral. Yep. Come on. You want some, Big Boss Man? Look, he was like, oh. Oh, my God. Oh, the timing. So much juice. Distraction.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Distraction so he could steal the dead guy. The distraction we're talking about. The opportunity presented itself. Oh, Big Boss Man was prepared, though. Yeah, he knew. Had the chains. Oh, my God. He's dead.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Is he dead? Like his dad? Physically and mentally. Are we having another funeral? Great rap job with that chain. I hope he's okay. He just got hit by a car. He hits that thing up real quick.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Look how quick he did. Big Boss Man ain't messing around. He had a first funeral. He's done this set. Did they know? Did they think? What if he would have tried to get the casket and his bumper just ripped off? Who's that?
Starting point is 01:51:41 Big Boss Man? I don't know. Maybe Big Boss Man. Big Boss Man. He would have just picked it up my dad big big show see oh my god come back here anyone ever rode a casket like this before is this the only time it's ever happened first time looking at it was so much momentum yeah himself what happened after that though how did they end that do we know who's they big boss man yeah they had a premium live event match the guys that had the cameras following them around what did they do just cut to black or
Starting point is 01:52:09 what let's get to a break you are disgusting we don't know big boss man makes his own decisions yeah they cut the dead body they cut where do you think it's in big boss man's basement what are we even talking about lit it on fire burn the body just get to a break real thing that happened yep that was back when before there was internet yeah mm-hmm yep what year venus what year was that before they put the stars by 90 90 because of the rhyming ability or wordplay why would they do that 90 great hey man brother i remember back in 1990 great uh big Big Boss Man took Big Show's fucking dad's coffin from a funeral. Nick would probably look at it. That might be 90 earlier than that.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Nick's looking up right now. I think I'm going to bring that back. When did Big Boss Man steal Big Show's dad's coffin? Just look up when Big Show's dad died. Is it in 98 or 99? 98. 1990, great. Yep.
Starting point is 01:52:58 WWE is the best. Of course. Never stops stopping. Never stopping. Rest in peace to Big Show. November of 99. Yeah, late 99. Boom. Almost 2000. Yeah. Jeez Louise. Forgot it. Never stopping. Rest in peace to Biff. November of 99. Yeah, late 99. Boom.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Almost 2,000. Yeah. Jeez Louise. Still got it. Still got it going there. All right, let's get to a break. Steve Mariucci will be on the other side. How about that ball going in?
Starting point is 01:53:13 Yeah, that was awesome. Seems like there's bigger buckets right now. Yeah. Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Hot hand. Yes, sir. You are making everything.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Not every, I mean, I missed four, clearly, but the- That's a hard shot over the head. This one's a tough one, yeah. It's because she's with him. You're like Brian Harmon putting. You've been watching golf. The lefty, you know? He's been draining every putt he takes.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Yeah, I can't watch him golf, but I do appreciate that he's golfing. They've got to get to him right on his eighth little waggle they need to get to the camera on him, not his spurs. He was on part of my take, I think, and he said he doesn't like it either. Obviously, he does not like it. Right. I couldn't even imagine what's going through his mind
Starting point is 01:53:47 every time, because he's waiting for the perfect thought, right? That's in my head he's thinking, because every once in a while in golf, you know, you'll start getting in here, oh no, oh no. So he just does that every single shot now. It's like, I couldn't even imagine. And then he hits a good shot. It's like, god damn.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Gotta keep doing it. Didn't he say that? Didn't he say, like, hey, I hate it, but I'm playing shot. It's like, god damn. Didn't he say that? He didn't say, hey, I hate it, but I'm playing some good golf. He's on the Ryder Cup. He qualified for the Ryder Cup. One of the top six, right? They are going to be very rude to him. The Italians? No, they're very nice people. They'll be very nice to him.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Really? Ryder Cup's the first time fans actually have a say, right? Yeah Phoenix Open Phoenix Open, true Yeah, but the European fans, especially in Italy, are going to be much nicer I don't know, they turn pretty easy Who?
Starting point is 01:54:36 The Italian fans They love politic, is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, for now Gumpy politic saving Italian soccer? Absolute snipe yesterday. And an assist. Looked unbelievable. You're welcome. You're welcome, world. Drink it in. We provided
Starting point is 01:54:52 the best soccer player in Europe, and we got the best soccer player in the world playing in America. That's right. It's our sport now. You're welcome. Sorry. Suck it. You've been watching Methi? The Methi show? I mean, it's hard to miss. Yeah, his highlights seem to pop up. He scores a goal every game at least.
Starting point is 01:55:06 You've got to watch the games. You've got to watch the beautiful game. Let's get through a break. Steve Mariucci's on. Who won the women's? Who won the women's World Cup? Is that happening? Spain.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Spain, yeah. And then their president scrooched one of the players, and it was a big trouble in Spain right now. I did see that. I didn't really read into it, though. That was the president of Spain? Yeah. I saw a photo, headline, lady. Big smoocher. That was the president of Spain? Yeah. I saw a photo, headline, lady.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Big smooch. That was real deal. Real deal. Sucked face. Yeah. Do they know each other? Isn't that just Spanish, like, hello? Yeah, don't a lot of those countries over there do the full smoochy, smoochy, woochy, woochy?
Starting point is 01:55:39 No, that's Cuomo. That's Italy. What do you say? I'm not a horny bastard. I'm just Italian. Is that what it was? This guy. That's Italy. What did he say? I'm not a horny bastard. I'm just Italian. Is that what it was? This guy. That's how many guys.
Starting point is 01:55:49 It's not like that everywhere. It was the FAA. It was the Football Association president of Spain. Yeah, it wasn't the president of the country. Are we sure? The prime minister of Spain now wants him fired. I watched the video. He's just super happy.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Yeah, but you can't just go sucking face with everybody. What does the girl think? How about the poor girl? She's a victim of this guy, right? Oh, yeah. Agreed. She should be the new president. I think she came out and said something afterwards about it.
Starting point is 01:56:11 That was just the moment. But who knows? I don't know. I didn't look into it enough. Soccer's wild. Yes, truly. But it's our sport now. That's right.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Let's own it. Okay, not that. We have enough on-white kisses in our history. We don't need them. Let's Spain keep that one. Exactly. Next World Cup's ours again. Women are going to win again.
Starting point is 01:56:30 The men are going to win again. Matthew's playing for us. It's good. And joining us now, a man who is my favorite thing on television every football season, every Sunday on NFL Network, obviously former NFL coach and NFL legend, Paisano, through and through, Coach Moo. Yeah, Moo. How are you guys doing?
Starting point is 01:56:54 Coach. How are you doing? You know, I was just watching all that stuff. That is some good stuff. Adam ran a 4-5-1. That's pretty good. A couple things. A couple things.
Starting point is 01:57:03 I'm sitting here watching you guys, right, Pat? Hi, AJ. I'm sorry I didn't bring my cigar. Next time I'll do that, alright? Thank you. And I need a tank top. I need a tank top shirt like you, Pat. You're looking pretty good. I'll tell you what, Coach. This is probably the most jocked I've been in a long time. I don't know
Starting point is 01:57:20 if now is the time to put a tank top on next to me, but if you were to show up here with your pits out, we would all lost our damn mind. You need to know that. I might do it because I lost about 15 pounds. I'm getting chiseled here. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:57:33 And yeah, I'm ready. And here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. You're getting soft. You know why you're getting soft? Because right before this break, you had to take a pee break. That's what you said, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Yeah. You know what? Scott Hanson, our guy on Red Zone, Scott Hanson. Pees his pants. We know. Pees into a diaper. We know. Seven hours.
Starting point is 01:57:55 He doesn't pee. He's got a diaper on, Mooch. You and I both know he's got a diaper on. He's got the pins on. You think so. He doesn't pee, and he doesn't drink caffeine. Caffeine's got the pins on. You'd think so. And he doesn't drink caffeine. Caffeine's afraid of that guy. And he says he eats
Starting point is 01:58:09 olives. And I go, olives? Yeah, he says that sucks up some of the moisture or something, fluids or something. And he stands there for seven hours straight without a pee. And that's fucked up. I mean, I do think that is incredible. When they go to the Octobox, though, you would think that your urine would get so excited it would come back inside.
Starting point is 01:58:28 Especially during the wetting hour. But in my head, just like AJ does during the show, he's wearing a diaper. Because they got those Depends now. You're not there yet, obviously. Hopefully, I'll live long enough to do it. They got a pretty sporty version. Hey, you can wear these diapers when you're out running around town a little bit you know they don't want people to know that you're
Starting point is 01:58:48 pissing directly into your pants which i think he's doing but if you're saying he's not damn that's impressive that's impressive right okay so you know every my birthday is on november 4th you can you know i'm an extra large if you want to send me anything. Anyway. Well, not now. You lost 15 pounds. Maybe just a large. Maybe just a large. The NFL Network anniversary date is November 4th as well. So they always have a little birthday party for the both of us. So Rich Eisen and Kurt Warner and Herb and all these guys over the years have given me birthday presents. So one year they gave me some Depends, a big old box on stage.
Starting point is 01:59:24 And they wanted me to try them out. But anyway, that's all I know about Depends. You had them on underneath that Spider-Man outfit last year. I know it. I know it. You know it. When I turned on the, listen. It was getting tight.
Starting point is 01:59:37 That's why I needed to lose the weight. Spider-Man outfit wasn't fitting. Dude, it was electrifying. Like, I wake up on Sunday. Sunday's the only day where I can sleep just a little bit because Saturday got game day, obviously, then this show Monday through Friday. So Sunday I sleep in a little bit, normally about 9, 10-ish,
Starting point is 01:59:54 depending upon what time I get to. I'll be up pissing early. But I turned on the TV one morning, and it was the first thing I saw. Literally, my welcome to Sunday NFL football was you in a skin-tight fucking Spider-Man costume dancing, I think, and then Kurt Warner was running sprints
Starting point is 02:00:12 around the set in a Flash costume and I'm like, what? Is this the greatest television of all time? We got Hall of Famers in costume. And by the way, great analysis, great breakdown. That's why I think your guys' show never gets enough credit in the entire conversation. You guys do great work.
Starting point is 02:00:28 We can't wait to see you back out there. Hell yeah. With that being said, Coach, let's dive into some of the storylines here. There's a lot going on around the NFL right now. Let's start with the New York Jets because I don't think I've heard your take on it as a whole. Obviously, veteran quarterback going to a younger team that is very talented ready to run jets have stunk for a long time you think overnight here we go because they got aaron and everybody else coach or what do you think realistic expectations are over there i think
Starting point is 02:00:55 the stink is over um robert sala robert sala you know where he's from guys where's that he's from the northern michigan university that's where i went to school so start with that jay all right You know where he's from, guys? Where's that? He's from the Northern Michigan University. That's where I went to school. So start with that, AJ, all right? You're not the only V in the world here, okay? So he's a good coach and a good guy, and he's building that thing up. It's his third year, and they've been drafting well now. If they get those linemen ready to go go because Garrett Wilson's the real deal, and we all know Brees Hall is,
Starting point is 02:01:29 and my goodness, Sauce Gardner, and then you add a great, great quarterback. Look out. They're going to be a winning football team. Now, can they win enough games to surpass the Bills? We shall see, but that's a very good team right now, and they just got a little more of a mojo with Aaron Rodgers coming through that door. So you're a believer, Coach.
Starting point is 02:01:53 I am. Their defense is solid. Their offense is a bunch of young guys. Oh, did they just grab Delvin Cook? I mean, this team is built to hunt bear. I mean, this is a good football team. I love that.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Go ahead, AJ. Coach, are you, I guess, like the national narrative is they're worried about their offensive line for the Jets. How worried are you and how worried would you be if you were the head coach of the Jets right now? They got to be healthy, man. You know, they got to have their guys that they've been drafting and show up. You know, availability, that's kind of the key right and so um if if they're and but here's the thing
Starting point is 02:02:30 even if they're a little bit i don't want to say subpar let's say their offensive line isn't as good as other units aaron rogers throws the ball quickly that's how they play football right i mean they get the ball out and and they're running RPOs, and they're running screens, and he doesn't hold the football. He doesn't hold the football a lot. And so that's going to help an offensive line that doesn't have a bunch of pro bowlers on it right yet. So I think they can work around that just a little bit.
Starting point is 02:03:00 They will run the football. You've got to have a pretty good offensive line to run the football. However, they're not going to get eight in the box a lot with aaron rogers at quarterback and all these receivers they just signed with alan lazard and randall cobb and cole hardman and garrett wilson you better have some safeties back that's going to help the run game it's a scary team to defend there's weapons galore yeah they'll be able to kind of utilize what they have to set themselves up for success i think o-line and the jets is just the beginning of the o-line conversation it's like miami o-line
Starting point is 02:03:31 situation carolina o-line situation it feels like that is something that gets overlooked all off season and then whenever it really gets to the point of football everybody's oh yeah fuck we need an offensive line to be good it's happening in in a lot of places, Coach, I think. So when I was coaching and when you guys were playing back in the day, we had more practice, let's face it. We had more two-a-days, we had more off-season, we had all of that. The position group that I think is being affected the most in pro football would be the offensive linemen because we don't develop, and it starts off in high school and college,
Starting point is 02:04:14 we don't develop offensive linemen like we need to. Teams are playing with seven active offensive linemen. The backups have to be multiple, you know, very position flexible. We don't have enough live work pads on to pass rush and pass off games, run block and all the things that, you know, quarterbacks and receivers can go play catch anytime, anywhere, you know, go to the beach and you can have a workout. But offensive linemen need live action against defensive linemen that are fast rushing full speed to protect quarterbacks. And it seems like there's a lot of teams that are a little bit thin on the offensive line. You'll see some teams that are loaded at other position groups, but the offensive line has been a concern since we changed these rules.
Starting point is 02:04:58 That can happen, though, right? Any group of five that has obviously the size and strength can become a great group, right? It's just waiting on that to happen. And they have to play together. You know, it's not just one-on-one because you have to pass off games. You have to work with run schemes that are, you know, off, down, kick out, all this different stuff that requires guys to play well together. And not very many teams will have all three, excuse me, all five guys be healthy the whole season.
Starting point is 02:05:26 So they're mixing and matching. Half the teams are changing linemen every other game, it seems. And so we'll see how that works. But that's the concern for the line at the Jets and the Dolphins and some others. Hey, that's how we're built right now in the national football. You got to hope to God that you got enough offensive linemen. Yeah, and, you know, it doesn't show up until it shows up is the old adage,
Starting point is 02:05:47 but it's real. Like, you think about that Bengals team with Joey Burrow and then when they went on that run, the offensive line was the problem. They win, problem, they win, problem, they win. Then all of a sudden it doesn't show up until what? The last play. Once again, it kind of ruins and loses the entire Super Bowl for them. So you just hope you're able to nip it in the bud a little bit earlier in the season.
Starting point is 02:06:06 But it seems like a lot of people are having these problems. Speaking of problems or lack thereof, feels like the new guy in Green Bay is awesome. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, obviously with you being in Green Bay and coaching Favre and then covering Rodgers for the longest time, I'm curious what your thoughts on Jordan Love are. Because going into the preseason, it seemed like everyone was kind of, Rodgers for the longest time. I'm curious what your thoughts on Jordan Love are because going into the preseason, it seemed like everyone was kind of, I don't want to say down on him,
Starting point is 02:06:29 but as the preseason has kind of progressed and we've seen him play, the excitement and the expectations for him have kind of risen. What have you seen out of him so far? Do you think Green Bay fans should be confident with him going into the season? What do you think realistic expectations for that Packers team this year are? Thanks. That's a good question, and it's very important. His development and production this year will really affect the landscape of that division. Talk about big shoes to fill with Favre and Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 02:07:00 My God, I mean, if he's 60% of those guys, he's still a good quarterback. And so he's a great kid. He does all the right things. He works at it. He's becoming a leader. That doesn't happen overnight, right? The thing that's going to hold him back a little bit, I think, is there's such a young wide receiving core. He doesn't have a great bunch of weapons to throw to that.
Starting point is 02:07:30 They're all gone. They all followed Aaron Rodgers over to the Jets. And so, you know, Christian Watson was a young guy last year. And, you know, you're talking about Dobbs being a young guy coming back. Boy, they're going to have to get some ground game going, you know, with Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon and, you know, that kind of thing. The defense with Joe Barry, a coordinator, are going to have to play their butts off to keep them in games.
Starting point is 02:07:58 You don't want Jordan Welk playing from behind with a young receiving core. That's for darn sure. It's just not there yet. So there's going to be some growing pains in Green Bay. You know, and that's a prideful place. AJ, you know all about it. It's a prideful place, man. If they lose a game or you lose two games, I mean, like,
Starting point is 02:08:16 everybody at the mall is, like, looking at each other like, oh, boy. Okay, I can't deal with it. And so it's going to be fun to watch that division. I think the Lions are really good. The Vikings will see. Okay, I can't deal with it. And so it's going to be fun to watch that division. I think the Lions are really good. The Vikings will see that. They can't win 13 games again, can they? Bears should be a little better, but we'll see what the Pack does.
Starting point is 02:08:34 I grew up a Packer fan. I got Packer stuff all over. I grew up with the – let me show you something. Yeah, please, let's do this. Here we go. This is great. This is Jim Irsay collection. Yeah, well, look at this. I don't know if you can see it.
Starting point is 02:08:47 You see that little kid there? Yeah. Yeah, it's a nine-year-old Steve Mariucci, all right? I was getting autographs from Herb Adderley and Willie Wood and Lionel Aldridge. I got some with Bart Starr over there and Jimmy Taylor and Willie Davis. And that was my team growing up, man. That was my team, all right man. That was my team. All right?
Starting point is 02:09:06 I bleed green and gold. And so I watch with interest over there. But, you know, I think they're going to just maybe take a step back and, you know, have to rebuild some areas over there. Super cool looking little Italian kid there. You see the hat on? You know what I mean? He looks super cool in there.
Starting point is 02:09:25 I didn't know you bled green and yellow over there. I didn't know that was the case. It makes sense you coached over there and liked them. When Brett Favre was the quarterback, that's a compliment. Talking about him playing football. Obviously not off the field or anything like that. But when he was the quarterback, it was like his team, obviously. Right?
Starting point is 02:09:43 How he acted day to day. I think Aaron the way way up Jordan love seemingly, and I think is a big part of it from what everybody's saying behind closed doors, he's acting the part, you know, like getting a chance to kind of watch a veteran quarterback, I think is priceless. Like I wish Andrew Luck got to watch Peyton Manning whenever Peyton was here so that like off the field in meetings and in building
Starting point is 02:10:05 and how you can talk to people what you can expect how you're allowed to go about doing things feels like Jordan's picked those up from Aaron pretty quickly just like Zach seemingly is in New York that's a priceless thing I think Jordan has under his belt that definitely will help for the future I'm a believer in Jordan Love a lot right now Booch believer good I'm rooting for the kid you know he's got he's got for the kid. You know, he's got, he's got all the physical qualifications that you need. He's got enough arm and size and athleticism and, you know, he's not going to run around like Lamar Jackson or anything. And, and, and a lot of those zone read kind of things, but he's certainly able to scramble around, make first downs with his legs
Starting point is 02:10:39 and get out of the pocket with all the movements and keeps that they like to do. He's got to be himself. You know, he can't be Brett or he can't be Aaron. He's got to be Jordan Love. And I think that's what he does. I think the leadership thing and the credibility will come after playing games. It's not just being good in the building and in meetings and on the practice field. That's where it starts. But he's got to perform on game day.
Starting point is 02:11:07 And that's where you really get that credibility. And so it's going to be fun to watch this team. They open with the Bears, right? Yeah. Oh, boy. And that's a big one. AJ knows that one, man. That's like your high school homecoming game.
Starting point is 02:11:21 Oh, yeah. It's just wild about it. And so that's going to be a big one in that division race. Isn't it amazing how quickly and easy it is to become a leader whenever you win? You know, like it's very – you win a game all of a sudden. It helps leadership. There's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 02:11:36 Yeah, absolutely. This guy wins, fuck yeah. We'll listen to whatever he says. You lose, it's like, well, this guy's kind of a bad leader. I mean, let's kind of do this whole thing. Look at Methy right now down in Miami. There you go. That guy's the leader of that team.
Starting point is 02:11:47 Why? Well, they just win, win, win. It's hard not to follow him. If Jordan gets off to a hot start, I'm excited to hear what teammates say about him, about how he's handled this whole process. If it goes the other way, excited to watch him kind of dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge it all. Pac-Man has a question for you, Coach.
Starting point is 02:12:02 What's up, Coach? I was just so fascinated. Hi, Adam. How you doing, man? I'm doing good, Coach. Was that really 40 yards that you ran over there yeah you know these guys are not gonna be bullshit 451 good 39 years old coach amazing that's amazing i'm moving a little bit i was just fascinated by them them pictures and i got so much respect for you as a coach um i got a question for you
Starting point is 02:12:25 about the hall of fame the 2023 hall of fame class was who DeMarcus where is that Taylor Joe Thomas uh Revis um just to name a couple on your list who missed the list and who should be on the list next uh I'd have to take a look and see that, Adam, who's up next year. Do you vote, coach? Do you vote? I don't have a vote. No, I don't have a vote. In fact, yeah, I've been there.
Starting point is 02:12:54 It's such a great weekend, the way they have the game and then the jacket ceremony and then the try-mints and the speeches are awesome, right? It's just a fabulous football weekend. If you haven't been, for the viewers, if you haven't been to Canton, go and check out the Hall of Fame. It is amazing. And that's the best time to go. But I'm not sure, Pac-Man, if I would say they missed somebody
Starting point is 02:13:20 because there's just a lot of people that are very, you know, capable of, or deserving to be there. You know, just, just, if you just talk one category, if you just talk to coaches, okay. Here we go. Because there's different categories. There's contributors, right? There's players, there's seniors, there's coaches. If you just take the coaches,
Starting point is 02:13:42 there's a bit of a log jam right now because it's like who goes in next? You had Don Correale go in, and he's now in the Hall of Fame in college and in the pros, right? He didn't win any Super Bowls, but he invented this Correale offense, right? Eric Correale and had a bunch of players go into the Hall of Fame from that system. But you have guys like mike holmgren waiting to get in hell yeah um shanahan waiting to get in we have winning to shanahan's not in
Starting point is 02:14:14 there tom coughlin tom coughlin won two super bowls he's not in yet you got george seifert who's got one two super bowls and he's not in yet. And so Dan Reeves, who's been to eight million Super Bowls, a different head coach and assistant. So there's a lot, there's a lot of guys. And so the selection committee, and it, you know, there's a, there's a, there's a writer or a person from each city, and then there's some at large. They have to stand on the table and just kind of say, this is my, the guy from this area this is this is who we need to vote for and sell it i mean they have to sell it and so um it's going to be interesting to see which coach gets in next um yeah and it's and it's hard adam it's hard to get in as a first ballot
Starting point is 02:14:58 guy yeah you know there's so many good players stockpiled in different positions just quick question is it only one coach per year is that what the rules are or can you can we have like there's a rule i don't think i don't think there could be a contributor and a coach and uh it doesn't have to be it could be zero could be one or two i think it feels like we should just do a makeup real quick bingo have a coach's class almost you know what i mean kind of get that whole thing figured out there. Because a lot of the names you said, I automatically assumed, like if Mike Shanahan was coming on,
Starting point is 02:15:34 I think my natural reaction would be Hall of Famer, Mike Shanahan. I think he's what, especially now with what Kyle has birthed. You know what I mean? With his overall impact into the game, I would have just assumed he would, Holmgren, same exact thing. The names are just synonymous with football greatness. You'd be like, Hall of Famer. I did not know that was the case. That's a nice piece of information to kind of have here. It feels like
Starting point is 02:15:51 the Colts have Dwight Freeney still not in somehow. Robert Mathis still not in. And I don't want to point at the person who's doing the pitch job or whatever. You got Peyton in in 15 seconds or whatever, but not being able to get Dwight Freeney in. Come on.
Starting point is 02:16:06 What are we doing here? You know what I mean? I feel like that's an easy pitch there. It's a weird thing. There are so many guys that belong, and they will eventually get in, but it's just a matter of sometimes you got to wait your turn. Coach, you're getting in there.
Starting point is 02:16:20 Coach, you're getting in there one day. Coach, you're in there one day wearing that fucking Spider-Man costume. This dude is willing to do whatever for the NFL. Let me tell you a quick story about that Spider-Man costume. We do it every year. One year, they go, all right, you've got to get in that Spider-Man costume because we're going to do a bump. A bump means,
Starting point is 02:16:36 all right, coming up next is Spider-Man bullshit. I had like a minute. I'm sorry for swearing. Am I allowed to do that on your show? We had about a minute I had like a minute I'm sorry for swearing am I allowed to do that on your show and so we had about a minute
Starting point is 02:16:47 to get dressed I got a suit on so I'm pulling that thing up real fast hurry Mooch get out there and I put it on and I put it on backwards
Starting point is 02:16:54 the zipper was it was backwards and so I did the bump I did the bump from a backwards Spider-Man costume and then screw it
Starting point is 02:17:03 I'm not changing so I did the I did the segment with a backwards Spider-Man costume screw it i'm not changing so i did the i did the segment with a backwards spider-man costume my grandkids are going grandpa you look like an idiot because they got it on wrong you think that's why your grandpa looks like an idiot yeah it was great that was a great segment hey who's gonna be the superhero of the day it was a great segment i think you hit too way to go spider- man appreciate that connor has a question for you about somebody having to act like a superhero yeah mooch massive conversation this offseason is this running back market and
Starting point is 02:17:32 obviously you know it's not gonna get fixed overnight and something inevitably will happen for them hopefully but right now with the colts jonathan taylor he was just given permission to seek a trade so my question for you is more so, how difficult is it for Shane Steichen, first year, brand-new head coach, never done this before, and his best player has – or one of his best players, if not the best player, has requested a trade? How difficult is it for a coach to handle that and just the team as a whole as they're trying to establish a brand-new culture?
Starting point is 02:18:04 That's not what he has signed up for, okay? That's one of the reasons why he went there, because he's got a great running back. And so not everybody has a great running back. It's a running back by committee in some places. So now he's going to go, I got no running back, and I'm going to have a rookie quarterback. Oh, good luck to you. All right. And so, and I know now they want, now they want what more than Christian
Starting point is 02:18:29 McCaffrey trade with the 49ers and Panthers. And he got a two, three, four, and five. And they want to at least a one or, or a bunch of others. And so it's a, it's a shame, really. It's a shame how it all came down with a hurt ankle and then he got a bad back but he doesn't have a bad back and there's just some hurt feelings there it seems like, but anyway
Starting point is 02:18:52 this sets a team back a little bit yeah you can get some draft picks for next year and the year after but you know what that's not going to help you in September so that's a future thing for maybe the next coach I mean you've got to try to win some games right now and prove that you belong and have some credibility early in your coaching career.
Starting point is 02:19:14 So it just got a little more difficult. But now they're going to have to see how he deals with a real young football team. We'll see. I love that. Yo, you guys got a 2025 first rounder. That's good. Yeah. That'll probably be the next fucking game. And also, you guys got a 20-25 first rounder. That's good. Hey, thanks.
Starting point is 02:19:25 That'll probably be the next fucking game. And also, no, don't swear on this show. Sorry. It is absolutely disgusting what you just did right there. AJ has a question for you, Coach. Coach, how do you see everything playing out in San Francisco with their quarterback situation with Trey Lance, obviously? What do you see?
Starting point is 02:19:40 What do they do with them? What does Sam Darnold's career look like? Are they all there? Are a couple people gone, one gone? What do they do with them? What does Sam Darnold's career look like? Are they all there? Are they a couple people gone, one gone? What are we going to do? Boy, this Bay Area over here is buzzing about that situation. We are doing a show. I did a show last week.
Starting point is 02:19:57 You know, sometimes we say things that just come out because you're all excited. And I did a little segment, and I said San Francisco. Because I went to their training camp right down the road here. Boy, do they have a good football team. Whoa, they're a Super Bowl-caliber team. There's no doubt about that. They stay healthy. It's going to be them and Philly, and may the best team win.
Starting point is 02:20:19 The quarterbacks. I thought we liked the Lions. I thought we liked the Lions. Come on. I'd like them to win the division, not the – Oh, okay. A little realistic. We'll take that.
Starting point is 02:20:28 A little realistic. But, you know, Brock Purdy played seven games, and he was 7-0 until he got hurt, and then against the Eagles. And so he played better than anybody in the world expected. He probably played better than he expected, okay? Let's be honest. And we were all waiting for him to show a drive or a quarter or a game like, oh, there's the rookie.
Starting point is 02:20:55 There's Mr. Irrelevant. He never did. He played his butt off all the way through. So he earned the starting job. So give it to him. If he can play like that, I said it on the air, if they can play like that, they'll win the Super Bowl. Because, I mean, that passer rating was off the charts last year.
Starting point is 02:21:14 What about Bosa? What about Bosa not being there? That's a big deal. He's the best player on the team. He'll be there. He'll show up. That's what everybody is saying. Everybody's just like, yeah, it'll get figured out.
Starting point is 02:21:25 It'll get figured out. Some of these guys, they don't like training camp, you know, and I know it's shorter than it used to be, but, you know, they'll figure it out. Some of them work out like crazy. They'll be in shape, and he'll be there. Chris Jones will be there for the Chiefs, and, you know, we'll all live happily ever after.
Starting point is 02:21:41 It's just going to be a little pricey. And so, but, you know, to answer your question about the other quarterbacks, I said that they have three quarterbacks that can start in the National Football League, Trey Lance and Sam Darnold and, of course, Brock. Well, then that night, then Trey Lance played, and it looked like deer in the headlights. You know, it's like, but, and I like the kid a lot because I thought he was going to be their starter last year.
Starting point is 02:22:06 And he was until the second week he gets hurt and that's it. So I hope he gets his confidence. He looked like he was holding on to the ball. Wasn't sure to pull the trigger. Wasn't working through his progression in a timely fashion. I mean, it looked, it looked rusty or worse than rusty. Right. So I'm hoping he gets it
Starting point is 02:22:25 back plus if they feel sam darnold can be that backup when i and i think they can and they do then then trey lance becomes a guy they could trade before the october trade deadline right and then but they got to show that he's able to play well like they hoped uh back then he's got to play better they threw a touchdown touchdown, right, this past weekend? I saw a touchdown down the seam there. Yeah, I saw a little bit. Then there was some other stuff that just wasn't good. Every time he goes out there, I think we're all thinking,
Starting point is 02:22:54 okay, this is going to be the game where we learn whether or not he's a guy. This kind of happened with Drew Locke in Denver a couple years ago. Remember when we were like, this is going to be whether we find out if Drew Locke's the guy or not. And then got through another season and was like, all right, next season we're going to find out if Drew Locke's the guy or not. And Trey Lance, we're trying to find out if he's the guy or not from practice clips, a couple preseason drives. Because once regular season happens, there's no way Purdy's going to let this spot go. And there's no way Shanahan has time to be like in a developmental phase, right?
Starting point is 02:23:21 Doesn't the team and where Trey Lance is just don't match each other at all? Like Anthony Richardson, they're saying he needs to play a lot of football. It's like, well, we got a team that probably not going to win a Super Bowl this year. Might. Might. Might win a Super Bowl this year. I mean, who knows? Should.
Starting point is 02:23:40 Okay, whatever. But they're going to grow together, and they're going to be good. It's like Trey Lance was coming into an NFC championship team, and they're like, well, he's got to grow. It's like, what? Shanahan doesn't give a fuck about that, right? I mean, he's like, we've got to win a Super Bowl right now. Who did?
Starting point is 02:23:54 I did. Did I? What did I fucking say? The hell you say? I did. You just opened the door. Okay. I heard you say but in that last answer.
Starting point is 02:24:06 That was very nice. You slipped ass in there or we're going to hang up on you. Did I? No, yeah. Is that a Nerf ball? What is that? No, this is a Baby Duke right here. This is a Baby Duke.
Starting point is 02:24:15 It's a smaller football. To be honest, it's like a perfect tailgating football. And I would say you should buy it, but they're already sold out. They're impossible to recreate. So this was something we had in our store. We had to, like, get six of them because we didn't know if we were ever going to get them back. Perfect tailgate ball. Can punt this, can throw this. It can survive.
Starting point is 02:24:31 It's also much smaller, though, than an NFL ball. I got real used to throwing this thing around. Then I had the actual Duke in my hand the other night. I was playing catch with the Sheriff, slipping out of my hand. Oh, my God. I looked like the worst athlete of all time trying to throw it. So this ball is a gift,
Starting point is 02:24:47 but it also fucked me really bad. You know what I mean? There's another one, by the way, Mooch. Why would you punt a ball at a tailgate? The ball goes shanked over there in the next throw, and then you lose it. Well, not me, Mooch. I'm putting that thing right on somebody's tailbone.
Starting point is 02:25:03 I'm putting that thing on a table over there. AJ's got something for you, Coach. Coach, what does your season schedule look like? I'm curious. Day to day, now when we hit the season, we hit the ground running, we see you on TV a lot. What's it like? Is it what you'd like to have, or can you create your own schedule?
Starting point is 02:25:21 Gosh, you guys know that the NFL Network and ESPN and some others really pared things down. Okay. Made some cuts and, and our, you know,
Starting point is 02:25:32 our network was, didn't escape that. We, uh, gosh, about 40 people, I think. Why?
Starting point is 02:25:38 I didn't know that NFL network. Well, not all analysts, but some behind the scenes. But yeah, I mean, just tough times right so um i just agreed though and i'm very fortunate very happy uh to a new two-year deal hey
Starting point is 02:25:54 you're lucky for that you're gonna have to put up with me my spider-man costume a little bit more we get you gotta you gotta see santa mooch that one's even better but i'm gonna be on game day morning on sunday mornings so get your butts up all right it's four hours long pre-game show we start sooner than anybody and uh love it uh this is coming up this super bowl will be my 19th super bowl with the network. I love it. And then I stay for Monday, and we do the pregame show from the studios for the Monday night football game. Now, AJ, you've been in our studio before, but you haven't been in the new one, have you? No.
Starting point is 02:26:36 Is that the one at SoFi? Right next to SoFi. It's the Taj Mahal of studios. It's unbelievable. I have not been to that one. They just built that, and then they let go of 40 people. That's weird. Two Tosh Mahaly here, maybe?
Starting point is 02:26:49 You think? I don't know the budget. I know my schedule now. The only thing that's unknown right now is because the NFL Network has four, count them, four international games. Two in London, two in Frankfurt, Germany.
Starting point is 02:27:06 Never been to Frankfurt, Germany. We went to Munich last year. We went to Munich last year. I've never seen anything like it. The fans, they're all sold out all the time, right, the international games. The fans stayed for over an hour in the stadium singing, singing, I mean, just American songs, right? I mean, we were up in the stadium singing singing uh you know i mean just american songs right i mean we're up in the booth singing with them i mean it was we had rich and kurt and i and irv
Starting point is 02:27:33 we're singing along with these people it was the most amazing thing i ever saw and i i i hope to go back to munich at some point but we're gonna have two in frankfurt down the road a little bit and uh but they haven't told us if we're going to do them or if somebody else is going to do them. We'll wait and see. But for sure on Sundays and Mondays, AJ. Hey, Frankfurt, good city too. Germany.
Starting point is 02:27:55 I can't wait. I hope we go. We're trying to go too. I think the Colts are playing the Patriots one of those games. And then Chiefs Dolphins. Chiefs Dolphins. You're going to go? You're going to go?
Starting point is 02:28:03 We're going to try to make the trip over there. I think you'll see the Colts Patriots. It's tough with games Dolphins. You're going to go? You're going to go? We're going to try to make the trip over there. I think you see the Colts Patriots. It's tough with game day on Saturday, though. You know? That's tough to be able to make. You're going to keep doing that, huh? Yeah, I enjoy it. I do.
Starting point is 02:28:13 It's great. Yeah, I know. It's awesome. It's a great show. I love when all those kids come out and the stands right behind you there. It's wild. Bro, those kids are getting there like 2 a.m., 1 a.m., trying to get a spot. That's bananas.
Starting point is 02:28:23 It's like Taylor Swift type stuff. I've never. Hey, did you go to Montana, Montana State game last year? Yeah, cold, minus 15. Real nice. Yeah, Lee, you guys put Lee out there. You put Lee out there. I did not put Lee out there.
Starting point is 02:28:37 Oh, my God. No, no, no. Lee was actually, Lee had a medical situation happen, I think, in Clemson. And then he missed like two weeks or whatever. But we were getting news that he was good. Like, he's good. And the shame, me and Lee became, like, good friends literally that week. I think Lee and I were just starting to really get together.
Starting point is 02:28:58 You know what I mean? We were really starting to bond. And then he has the medical situation, like, Saturday morning. So he's not there for the show. And, like, we're being told as we wake up and we're getting into cars like hey coach corso is in the hospital right now and it's like should what uh what are we talking about because he's an older gentleman so like anytime you go to the hospital like fear for the absolute worst and then we get a message from lee it's like i'm gonna be just fine like don't you even worry about this whole
Starting point is 02:29:22 thing so then he's off a couple weeks, couple weeks. And then his first show back was negative 20 degrees in Montana. You weren't the only one that was watching, asking questions. I was there like, is this the one that we need coaching this fucking game? I mean, great to have him. But I don't know if this is the right time. Watching you guys on that little set, and it was like freezing. I'm going, oh, Lee didn didn't go thank god he didn't go
Starting point is 02:29:46 and then pretty soon he comes waddling out there and oh no we didn't ask him to do this I coached for Lee Corso in the USFL fellas Orlando Renegades yep 1985 it was spectacular I loved him like I loved him like a father
Starting point is 02:30:02 he's terrific hey he still got it obviously he is looking moving uh like it was fowdo well fowdo got introduced later and i'll tell you what mooch that montana crowd was not happy that fucking sir nick fowdo was going to be the guy representing no no they were actually they had signs they had signs because i was in the middle of the yellowstone thing where everybody was ke Costner. Shout out Tone Diggs. He started wearing a cowboy hat after watching it. There were signs, numerous, like 15 signs that were like, don't move to Montana.
Starting point is 02:30:33 We hate everything that is happening to Montana because this Yellowstone show, everybody's falling in love. And then Sir Nick Fowler gets up there and they're like, how long have you been in Montana? He's just moved here like a month ago. And they're like, we hate this guy. We hate this guy. And they came up, had no idea. It was great. It was fantastic. Not Nick Fauda's fault.
Starting point is 02:30:52 You want to hear a secret? I'm building a house in Montana. I love it. Don't move there. Keep it to yourself. What part of Montana are you going to? Whitefish. Love it. Dude, we dropped in there. You got Bozeman, you got Missoula, you got Whitefish up north, and it's just spectacular.
Starting point is 02:31:09 The people. I was running around the property. Oh, there's a bear. Watch out. It's fantastic. Bald eagles flying by. I just get away from the hustle and bustle, right? Yeah, it's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:31:21 We landed in there. It was like a postcard. Obviously, freezing cold. Like very, very, very cold. That was a weird-looking jacket you had on there. right yeah it's beautiful we landed in there was like a postcard obviously freezing cold like very very very cold but then what you that was a weird looking jacket you had on there where'd you get that jacket so that was actually like a uh a bathroom the robe uh like a robe yeah that was a robe that i it was whatever the thickest stuff i had at the house i'm i was actually the most prepared so like i had the most ridiculous boots on, like, yeah, but I did have those ear things. Look at the ear things.
Starting point is 02:31:51 You know what I mean? Your heat dissipates through your head, through your head, not just an ear. You've got to put something on your head to keep the heat down. All right. So next time we go, I'll do that. But you remember how much hairspray I got in that? Yeah, basically a hat. In the hair. So it's kind of keeping it all in there. But it's hard not to want to move there when you go there. The Montana people, incredible. Yes.
Starting point is 02:32:14 Very good people. It felt like everybody I met was incredibly kind. It's beautiful to look around. And then, like, I don't know if you do this or not, Mooch, they got the best weed that i've that i've experienced you know what i mean because we travel mooch i don't know if you're smoking dope or not but i mean if you are would love to smoke weed with you in montana whenever you i'm in the uh i'm in the never did never will club okay never will come on never did never will
Starting point is 02:32:41 that's me that's it what about the That's it. What about the little edibles? You ever eat the little edibles? Nothing. Oh, when you move to Montana, you're going to have to try it. Yeah. They had the best weed. Yeah, Chuck Pagano. Bingo.
Starting point is 02:32:54 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What was that about? What are you doing? Are you outing a guy? Not with THC in it. Never the THC stuff. I think he was a never did, never will guy for a while either.
Starting point is 02:33:02 And then he got his hands on one of them little candies that maybe old Uncle Pat gave him. Tim Allen over here. My joints are feeling a lot better. Never did, always will. Man, am I. All right, Mooch. Have an incredible season. We appreciate the hell out of you, buddy.
Starting point is 02:33:18 Hey, keep having fun, guys. It's awesome. Hey, congrats on the new deal. That's good for all of us. Hell yeah. Yes. Thanks. Thanks. Looking forward to it. Just get up, get your butt up early on Sunday morning and watch, will you?
Starting point is 02:33:29 What time does it start? Well, it's 6 o'clock out here on the West Coast. It'd be 9 o'clock East. Where are you? America. I'm out here in America. Eastern Standard. You don't want to divulge your location. No, I'm at the Thunderdome. It's in Indiana.
Starting point is 02:33:46 But we are Eastern Standard Time. So, that's early. Alright. Talk to you guys later, huh? Stay out of trouble. Alright, Mooch. Stop swearing on air, too. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:33:58 It's disgusting. Good Lord. He said, alright guys, this is over. Wrap it it up all right i'm done with it i'm done with it was he looking at notes earlier you think yeah i think he was looking i think he had like notes on every team yeah he knew he probably always has yeah tons and tons of notes everywhere he's a coach you know he's got to spend his time doing something yeah probably got not we do the right that we could just smash the team. He should smoke a little dope.
Starting point is 02:34:28 He needs some. That was a surprise to me. Montana had the best weed. The best by far. That's because it's got the best soil, the best farms, the best people, the best agriculture, the best livestock. What? The fertile crescent.
Starting point is 02:34:41 Clean air. What Sugar Sean said, I feel like that is why. The organic, what is the word for it? Growing of it, yeah, if that makes sense. The organic part of it, that must be better than anywhere. No pesticides. There's no pesticides. No GMO. It's not like a house either.
Starting point is 02:34:57 The house, though, the store that I went to was an actual house, and it was beautiful. Like a two-floor one, right? Yeah, it was very nice. You walk in you walk down the hallway they got like edibles down the hallway then you get into the kitchen area they got like a whole thing set up i'm like this is a nice house smart it is very it's a good state and then you walk outside yeah oh my god it is colder than any cold i've ever felt in my
Starting point is 02:35:21 entire life probably cold there right i bet at night right now it's getting down there. It's not cold here. No, it's not. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Sadler in Alabama. Sadler, what's going on, pal? Cool, man. I live in Alabama, but I'm in Madison, Wisconsin.
Starting point is 02:35:39 Hell, yeah. Love that, Sadler. What do you want to talk about, brother? Jonathan Taylor's trade. Where's he going? Green Bay Packers. Whoa, Sandler. Maybe the Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 02:35:52 Aaron Jones, A.J. Dillon, Jonathan Taylor, Jordan Love. Now we're talking about an old-school football team. Sign me up. We'll send a seventh-round pick back to Indianapolis. They can take care of his contract, and who knows? Maybe the Packers win the Super Bowl. I don't think that's going to take place. Let's go to Isaiah in Arizona.
Starting point is 02:36:09 Pulling for you, though, Sadler. What's going on, Isaiah? Hey, boys. Pat, how you doing? Keep it moving. Bingo. Hey, just real quick, shout-out to the team for all y'all's success. Congrats to ESPN.
Starting point is 02:36:21 I know y'all be getting a lot of hate, but y'all are real fans. You know we're with you, and we support y'all since day one, and we're going to. I know y'all be getting a lot of hate, but y'all real fans. We're with you and we support y'all since day one and we're going to be there for y'all. Shout out to you boys, man. Congrats. Hell yeah. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Need to hear that, Isaiah. What do you want to talk about now?
Starting point is 02:36:38 Of course. No doubt. Real quick, speaking of mooch, I'm actually a brand ambassador out here in Arizona. So next time y'all are definitely in the state, definitely let your boy know. I can definitely go ahead and help y'all out, look for the best disposed, and get you guys the best. Speaking of weed, I mean, Arizona's pretty nice in cannabis.
Starting point is 02:37:02 Yeah, it is. Arizona has the best laws. Arizona has the best laws. You can go in there and George Young that thing. I'll take everything pretty nice in cannabis. Yeah, that is. Arizona has the best laws. Arizona has the best laws. You can go in there and George Young that thing. I'll take everything you have in there. And they said, you got it. Suitcase. You absolutely got it.
Starting point is 02:37:12 You don't live in the state? No. Who cares? Take the whole thing. Oh, thank you. I'm going to be here for a week. Can I buy the whole store? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 02:37:19 Come back tomorrow. Okay, sweet. You're not going to remember? No. All good. Do what you got to do. With that being said, I don't know Montana's laws because I was only there for a night or whatever. So I didn't try to buy the whole store.
Starting point is 02:37:31 Sure. So I think Arizona probably still has the best laws, if I had to guess. You guys do it right out there, Isaiah. I appreciate you, pal. Isaiah's a good guy. Why don't you hit him up next time we go out? I 1,000% will, especially after those kind words he just shared with us. We have some information coming in on the San Francisco 49ers camp.
Starting point is 02:37:48 David Labarde asked Kyle Shanahan how the third quarterback rule will work. He said that the NFL sent him a memo last night and thinks he'll have to specifically designate the 49ers' third emergency quarterback every week. So we'll get a firm answer. Okay, we're moving on. It's gone exactly as I expected it to go. Kyle Shanahan said of 49ers negotiations with Nick Mosa.
Starting point is 02:38:06 So when does Shanahan expect negotiation? And hopefully sooner rather than later. Can we go back to that other one? So we'll get a who's QB2. Okay, sweet. Yeah, so every week that person is not allowed to be on any of the other football plays. They are just an emergency quarterback. I would like them to potentially put them in
Starting point is 02:38:25 a box on the sideline. That'd be so cool. Both these guys, and then you can open a box. You know what I mean? They come out. That's kind of what the NFL is trying to do because of what happened to the Niners in the NFC Championship game. Kyle Shanahan says 49ers scout team QB duties can alternate week to week between
Starting point is 02:38:41 Trey Lance and Sam Darnall, depending on which QB can best emulate opposing offenses to San Francisco's practice purposes. Okay, pretty standard operating procedure there. There are teams that actually bring in quarterbacks for a week to emulate another quarterback on another team. So that whole thing is evolving, probably will every single week. The answer, no answer, to who's backup quarterback
Starting point is 02:39:01 is obviously a piece of information that we need. And the BOSO deal, sooner than later, everybody's kind of guessing it's going to happen in the next few days. Good updates there from Kyle Shanahan over there, from David Lombardi, Lombardi himself, AJ. Yeah, it is. And is this the first year where that rule changed where you can add a third quarterback,
Starting point is 02:39:18 he doesn't count against your 46-man game day roster? Yeah, he does count against your practice day squad, though. So he does count. Yeah. Yeah, but just not the game day roster. So you can bring him up, but he can only go in through injuries or expulsions that kick a dude out. Yeah, can only play quarterback. So if there's a package
Starting point is 02:39:37 of Trey Lance and for some reason be on the field at the same time, Trey Lance would have to be the two. But they couldn't do that with Sam Darnold if he was the three. And this is strictly because of what happened to the Niners in the NFC Championship game. I wonder if there's the emergency quarterback. How does that go for his pay?
Starting point is 02:39:54 Is he on the practice squad? Is he on active roster? Interesting. Probably active. But is he? Only if they open that box. Yeah, depending on if they ring the think only if they open that box. Yeah, depending on. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:05 If they ring the bell. Once they crack that box open. So is he cut or is he not cut? Does this guy, you can pick him up off another team? Yeah, does he count as a practice squad player? That's what I'm saying. Because if somebody's on a practice squad, you can sign them off the practice squad. There's no way.
Starting point is 02:40:19 You don't think so? No, there's no way. And you have to be active for a few weeks. If you get signed off a practice squad, you got to be active for what? Three weeks? Is that right? Yeah. They're not going to be active for a few weeks. If you get signed off a practice squad, you got to be active for, what, three weeks? Is that right? Yeah. They're not going to put Trey Lance on the practice squad.
Starting point is 02:40:28 Just let someone else. So it might be Sam Darnold, though. Right? They might put Sam Darnold on there. Yeah, because somebody will sign him. Yeah, because they just signed him. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:37 There's no way. A little extra layer of, hmm, how does the rule work? I think a lot of these teams are about to figure out how this rule works. Yeah. A lot of these teams are about to figure out how this rule works. I'm quite sure you don't get full pay if you're the emergency guy. That's what they're trying to do with the Patriots and Malik Cunningham is having him as the number two and Zappi as the three because they could actually use Malik Cunningham in the run game and pass game.
Starting point is 02:40:58 I just saw Zappi. Zappi. Zip on the ball. Zappi's college coach was talking to Jordan Schultz. Really? Did an interview with him. I saw some of that. You saw that? I saw a little bit of it. Yeah, you did.
Starting point is 02:41:13 Tyson Helton, I believe, is the coach. He actually talked about Zip on the ball Zappy in the interview. I watched this full two-minute clip from Schultz. We never really got to a point and never really divulged any information In the interview, I watched this full two-minute clip from Schultz. We never really got to a point and never really divulged any information about Zip on the Ball Zappy.
Starting point is 02:41:30 Sure. But I did learn that a guy that coached Bailey Zappy was talking to Schultz, and Schultz was doing interviews. So it got me pretty jacked up. Okay. What day was that? Okay. We learned so much.
Starting point is 02:41:41 That's all you got out of it. Did you watch it? What did you get from it? I probably saw the same clip. When was that? That was just a few days ago. I'm like, Schultz is doing interviews. It must have been all the weekend. From the room he was in when he came on the show.
Starting point is 02:41:54 He's got a studio. It was sweet. I was like, here we go. This is the next evolution of the Schultz Report. This is Speak Schultz. I love what we're doing. Schultz speaks. There it is. Is he still the Schultz Report. This is Speak Schultz. I love what we're doing. This is Schultz Speaks. Yeah, there it is. There it is. Is he still doing the?
Starting point is 02:42:07 I think he hasn't been there in a couple days. So Shady's full time on that show. Yeah. Lives in LA? Yeah. Got it. He was going to do Skip, wasn't he? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:16 And then what people were saying at the beginning, he is not. Now it is Sherman, Wheezy. Yep. Irvin. Yep. Irvin. Michael Irvin. I don't know if that's confirmed yet, but they're basically saying he is going to do it.
Starting point is 02:42:27 And then there was one more that was just announced, right? Who was it? Bruce said Keyshawn Johnson. Yes. Rachel Nichols as well, right? Right. She is the mediator, yeah. Got it.
Starting point is 02:42:36 Okay, so Skip is coming with a carousel. Yeah. And then they were saying Nick Wright too, but Skip won't do it because he knows that Nick Wright will quote-unquote disembowel him on TV. Nick Wright would be the end of Skip Bayless. I do remember that was reported. Yeah, that was reported. An anonymous
Starting point is 02:42:54 Fox FS1 exec said we can't put Nick Wright up there with Skip. He'll disembowel him. This is probably the part of the show, by the way, that Greg Swain was watching. Could have been. We had a guy with 76,000 followers who's been in sports media since 1998. Said he gave our show a shot today.
Starting point is 02:43:10 Ten more minutes. Hates it even more than he did last time. I just reposted it. Yeah, less cerebral Kenny Powers sports sesh. Yeah. I appreciate him. I mean, anytime you're in the same sentence as Kenny Powers. Well, it's two different posts mean, any time you're in the same sentence as Kenny Powers.
Starting point is 02:43:25 Well, it was two different posts, though. Oh. You know, it wasn't in the first post. He might hate the big boss man, too. Well, yeah, because he could have tuned in while we were breaking down the fucking funeral heist of the century. Disagreed with it. From big boss man in 1999. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:41 Sorry we took a trip back in time, pal. Yeah, we do that. There's going to be a lot of Greg Swingses. Oh, yeah. A lot. People are going to be so mad at us. Yeah. I think they're going to be more confused at times, too.
Starting point is 02:43:55 Yeah, gave Pat Mack's show no ten minutes. Nothing else is on, obviously. Worse than I even remembered. I'm wondering how they'll survive on ESPN without Kirsten. Oh, what a heinous. You do game day, right? Correct? Huh?
Starting point is 02:44:09 You do game day, right? Yeah, and SmackDown. Do you cuss on there the whole time? Oh, yeah. They're just able to mute it and edit it. Yeah. I mean, come on. Same with the watch-alongs on ESPN, too.
Starting point is 02:44:23 Oh, yeah, when we were on the field. Did six of those, but they were cutting all that stuff. And we weren't allowed to say a lot of things we will be allowed to say. Yeah, funny enough. Weird. Greg Swain's going to be, hey, Greg, listen, I respect everything you've done for sports media. Now, you have ushered in us as the sports media, though,
Starting point is 02:44:40 because of how terrible you and your friends have treated sports media. Okay? So you're the reason why we exist. Just want to let you know that. I know that's probably a tough pill to swallow whenever you watch shows like ours and be like, whoa, this is probably something my fault. Yeah, it is. And on the flip side, you're not the only
Starting point is 02:44:55 one. And we hate us sometimes, too. Just know we're going to be way too big and on way too many TVs this fall. We understand that, Greg. But with that being said, the reality of the situation is you're either going to like us or you're going to be forced to hate us for everything we do every single day.
Starting point is 02:45:17 One or the other. And it's going to be there. We're going to be in a lot of places this fall. New Monday Night Football Countdown show. Did you see that? Scott Van Pelt, Swagoo, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Clark, Emmy winner for best media personality. Adam Schefter snuck in there, did a little punditry insider work.
Starting point is 02:45:33 Then he handed it over to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman with a great game. Last night was, I think, a great start for the whole new crew over there at ESPN. They spelled Odell Beckham Jr.'s name wrong. That was weird. You can't do that. You can't have the graphic spelling a guy's name wrong, especially if he's like one of the most popular humans on earth, not just in the NFL, but like...
Starting point is 02:45:52 Across the board. Across the board at this stage. Can't do that. But it was a good night last night. I'm excited to watch SVP back in the primetime spot. Yeah, it was. Obviously, Sam Howell, that dude looked good to me. He could slang it.
Starting point is 02:46:03 Josh Johnson, too, as well on the other side. I like how he played, too. But also, there was a dude at tight end, number 88's helmet. Is that one of those position-specific helmets where the front was built up a little bit? I didn't see it. You didn't see him? I did. On the Ravens.
Starting point is 02:46:18 It looked like the next gen of what Kittle was wearing. Kittle had a thing. It's like that kid, 88, it felt as though that was the next step after Kittle. You said it looked like a motorcycle helmet? Yeah, it was diesel. You look good. You like this helmet? It's like the front. It looks like it's built up a little bit.
Starting point is 02:46:35 I'm wondering how it feels. I would assume it's very comfortable from looking at it. And you're also saying that'd be a good weapon. That's what you're saying. I don't know what the league's trying to do. If they're building stuff out in the front of your skull, do they want you to use it? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:46:49 They're sending mixed signals there. AJ says, you put this helmet in my locker. You're saying, hey, AJ Hawk, use your forehead as a weapon. We built in a little extra padding for you to do your thing. That's what you're saying? I'm saying maybe it's a tight end helmet because he's at hand in the ground a lot of times, blocking in line.
Starting point is 02:47:07 There's a lot of head contact, head-to-head from your face. So maybe we'll see more of that. There's a lot of tweets about his helmet, but none of a picture of it. You remember like X's? Come on. I did this too with Sugar Sean. It's an X.
Starting point is 02:47:20 Always tweets to me. Yeah, are you going to really do that? What's that building in Chicago? Sears Tower? No, the Hancock building. Willis Tower. The Hancock building is very nice. What's the Sears Tower now?
Starting point is 02:47:34 It is the Sears Tower. No, it's not. They sold the rights to it. Sears isn't a store anymore. Yeah, Sears died. It's not true. The Kardashian line of clothes saved it. So, it's still Sears. It's not true. The Kardashian line of clothes saved it. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:46 So it saved the Sears Tower? It saved Sears. Sears? No, they couldn't do. It's named the Sears Tower? No. Bruce Willis bought the naming rights to it. It's called the Willis Tower.
Starting point is 02:47:57 It's going to be hard to ever call it the Willis Tower, though. I don't even know it by that at all. Just like Twitter. It's going to be tough to call it X. How long are we going to do that? How do we even do it? We don't. No one says you have to. I was on X last night. You don't even know about that at all. Just like Twitter. It's going to be tough to call an ex. How long are we going to do that? How do we even do it? We don't. No one says you have to.
Starting point is 02:48:08 I was on ex last night. You don't have to. Yeah. Because then you get porn. People think you're looking for porn all night. You're on drugs. And drugs, yeah. I was rolling on ex.
Starting point is 02:48:17 I was scrolling on ex last night. Man, I was starting to feel good. Then somebody said some terrible stuff and it all went south. The room started spinning. You see, Logan Paul had a presser, I was starting to feel good. And somebody said some terrible stuff in Owen South. The room started spinning. You see, Logan Paul had a presser, I saw. And Tyson Fury's dad made an appearance. So, I didn't see all that happened. I read the headline.
Starting point is 02:48:36 John Fury flipped the table. Got it. He hates Logan Paul. He's on Logan's side. I don't know if he's going after Logan or his son's fighting KSI. There's a bunch of back and forth from what I saw. This is the one where Dylan Danis decided to utilize the X app and just. Man.
Starting point is 02:48:53 Yes. Still continues to be. Yeah. He is on there, too. It's literally the X app. The X. Yeah, the EX app. It's how Dylan Danis.
Starting point is 02:49:02 Dylan Danis just got a wrong. Wait, I was supposed to just post X's on here, right? Yeah. Isn't that what we're No, this is still Twitter. John Fury here, obviously getting jacked up cutting a promo and this table is soft. I'm a gypsy. I live in a wagon
Starting point is 02:49:16 and we're not doing this anymore. Yeah, the Furies have a full reality show. I saw some of it. Come on, he said. Come on, Pop. Look at him. He's getting ready. Who's he fighting there? KSI?
Starting point is 02:49:28 KSI, yeah. Logan Paul. Whose side is Logan Paul on? He's on KSI's side. Oh, yes. That was not his side. Oh, yes. Lunatic.
Starting point is 02:49:38 So Tyson Fury bopped seven times a day. Yeah. Uh-huh. John Fury said he's going to hump something. That's a penalty to the NFL. He kept it. That was passed down. They got a horny family. They do. The Fury said he's going to hump something. That's a felt you're going to felt. That was passed down. They got a horny family. They do.
Starting point is 02:49:48 The Fury's bone. They do. They really do. He's some big guys too, buddy. Hey, that's a good promotion though, this guy. You put a microphone on him, he's good to go. Went to a time where he wasn't allowed to leave some country because he was under. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:50:01 Is that still happening? I don't know. This is in London, I believe, right? Yeah. Is that still happening? Oh, I don't know. This is in London. This is in London, I believe, right? Yeah. So he's back. Welcome me back to London. I'm going to flip a few tables and let the people know what they've been missing.
Starting point is 02:50:13 Power stroke. Yeah. It was. Oh! Oh! Whoa. No wonder. I don't know who was going to be on the other end of that, but they were going to definitely
Starting point is 02:50:21 get some. You know what I mean? That was a curious... Tyson's fighting Francis, right? Tyson's fighting Francis in October. Is that right? A boxing match? In Saudi? And he's fighting Francis in Ghana, I believe. I believe that.
Starting point is 02:50:32 Dubai or Saudi? I don't know. I'm not sure which one. I would guess Dubai. That would be the money, right? Yeah. For sure. Oh, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it's in R, yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 02:50:45 Yeah, it's in Riyadh. Who? In Riyadh. So you're not allowed to drink or do anything over there? Nothing. I thought you were a visitor. These guys might be able to. Yeah, I thought hotels like visitors.
Starting point is 02:50:54 Yeah. Right? I think you can drink at the hotel. Am I allowed to smoke dope over there? No. Absolutely not. They will cut your fucking tongue out. That is a no.
Starting point is 02:51:01 Don't bring that over. Seriously. I'm allowed to ride a tiger and do all this other stuff. I can't smoke a little dope? Nope. Nope. I can't wait until I got to talk to one of them one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:11 Hey, it's an honor to be here. I can't smoke dope over here? What are we talking? You know how good this place would be if we smoked a little dope? I don't even think you should ask that. I don't think you should ask that. Ty just showed you what would happen. You even think about it, they'll unsheathe that.
Starting point is 02:51:22 I'm going to say, I got a grinder right here. You might not make it back, buddy. I don't need you sorting any cannabis. I'll just do it. Just keister it on the way in so they don't find it. They'll find it. Yeah. They are thorough. They will. They're going to root around
Starting point is 02:51:37 in there. They will find it. Oh, man. Those all look good, honestly. I know. The front and back room. That is a pain in the ass. Here it is. Oh, man. Those all look good, honestly. I know. The front and back. Pain in the ass. Here it is. Nice.
Starting point is 02:51:51 I mean, you're just all over it. Just all over it. Oh, the harder one. Oh. All right. I'm done with it all. Yeah, I mean, you hit the socks. Yeah, that is kind of a, you know.
Starting point is 02:52:04 Foxy and I played moonshot against each other yesterday. Oh, yeah. Who won? I've never lost a game that I've played Moonshot against each other yesterday. Who won? I've never lost a game that I've played of Moonshot. I don't know about everybody else. I've never lost to Connor in Moonshot. I created the game, so you're welcome. What the hell is Moonshot? Well, it's actually your shot that you did out here.
Starting point is 02:52:19 Yeah, over and on and on and on and on. In that box right there? Yeah, opposite foul lines. You've got to get and on. Net box right there. Yeah, yeah. Off the foul lines. You got to get to five, you know. It's a good game. Rebuttals. I had three straight yesterday.
Starting point is 02:52:32 That really was a swing in the game. Stuff to beat. Yeah, that's difficult. Pack, I don't want to say, like, tough looks for you when we're playing a moonshot game, but a lot of balls falling from that foul line into that hoop and that foul line into that hoop. It's a good game.
Starting point is 02:52:49 It's a good game. Some clean swishes yesterday. There were a couple where the rim would crack, and that's when you really need it. Pac, I think you'd be pretty good at the game, actually, because you get multiple shots at it, and it's like expected multiple shots. You know, I feel like whenever you step up in there,
Starting point is 02:53:01 you're always rushing. You know, you're trying to get it done quick. Yeah. The game is like, make some shots here. I'm waiting on the par three. I think I'm going to be the best on the par three. We're going to find out. Small greens, small greens.
Starting point is 02:53:12 Let's put in some frisbee golf holes around the yard too. No thanks. Yes. I'll do it. I'll send them up. I love throwing the frisbees. I'll throw frisbees all the time. Who's going to go get them?
Starting point is 02:53:23 You? Yeah, what do you mean? It's a hole. Let's get that dog. And you keep going until you get it. We could get a dog too. We could train him up. I love throwing the frisbees. I'll throw frisbees all the time. Who's going to go get them? You? Yeah, what do you mean? It's a hole. Let's get that dog. And you keep going until you get it. We could get a dog, too. We could train him up. So many other things.
Starting point is 02:53:30 Okay, is the dog living here? Where's the dog house outside? Who's taking him? How are we getting him? Who's going to take him? How are we doing this? You've got like nine animals. Bring one of the otters or raccoons over.
Starting point is 02:53:39 They're dead. Bring Chuck. You cannot bring Chuck here. No. It's too hot. Chuck. Chuck. I'm going to tear off his ACLs trying to. Bring Chuck. You cannot bring Chuck here. No. It's too hot. Chuck. Chuck. I'm going to tear off his ACLs trying to run.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Chuck. Chuck jumped off a wall the other day and obviously hit his face off the ground when his legs weren't able to hold that whole fucking asshole. Yeah, I am more worried about Chuck now than I ever have been, and that is saying something. What are you talking about? I thought Chuck was maybe going the opposite way last time I saw him, but boy, oh boy, no, he is pushing the limits. The guy, let him live.
Starting point is 02:54:07 He has parts on his body that aren't hairy because his skin is stretched so far. That's not true. Yeah, I saw him. His stomach, I mean, yes. Like I said, because it drags on the ground. His penis, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:18 He doesn't have a hairy dick. Chuck's not at all. No, he can't find Chuck's ding. Whoa, you're saying he can't see it. No. No chance. He looks down. He sees it.
Starting point is 02:54:28 He looks down. He sees his stomach still. Oh. All right. That's it. That's it for the show. Let's take a call and get out of here. There's two more balls.
Starting point is 02:54:36 Where? Right there. Front. Front side. Front side. It's so far away. I know. Nick gave me this stack of money.
Starting point is 02:54:43 He did. Very cool. You see this, AJ? I haven't even spent it yet. Yeah. Got real money? Oh, shit. Shin guards. Oh, careful. Both of them. Yeah, I don't need this other one. We know that. No.
Starting point is 02:54:57 Let me have it. Send it to me. Alright, AJ. I'll make this. I'll send you. Actually, I make one of these. I'm signing. We'll all sign one of these shin guards. Okay. And we'll give it away. All right. All right.
Starting point is 02:55:08 Sweet. All right. So you can be fashionable, too. And stay, you know, on the run while you're taking it on the shin. Boom. Don't be scared to say some stuff. Bingo. You know, that needs to be said.
Starting point is 02:55:19 Shoot from the hip. Bingo. This is a big deal. Yeah, let's go. All of a sudden, we've got to make a shot. Yeah. I want to do this. Me, too. AJ, you want you want to sign this thing too or we'll just forge it we'll forge it either one we'll go oh my god it was meant to be yeah i just played was. I just played catch with myself. That was sick. That was awesome.
Starting point is 02:55:45 I get a fetch. All right. All right. Things like that Australian boomerang. Oh, hell yeah. Welcome back. For the people. For fashion.
Starting point is 02:55:56 Oh, fuck. Too far. Here you go. Lock in here. Where's Beal? Can we get Beal out here? We need his energy. Yeah. Beal. Maybe throw get Beal out here? We need his energy. Beal!
Starting point is 02:56:08 Maybe throw a couple balls back on the stage. The energy's through Gump. Gump, can you say something to this ball about maybe perseverance and grit? Yeah. And stick-to-itiveness and everything like that? Listen here, ball. No matter what happens, you never give up, and you find that fucking hole. Listen here, ball, because you don't have headphones on. You couldn't hear what he just said.
Starting point is 02:56:32 Come on, Ball! Maybe tomorrow. We'll put headphones on too, Go. Throw the Duke. Chicago's Ball. Way, way to go. Is that the K-Dub?
Starting point is 02:56:48 Yeah. I can't wait to get the Winsie. Only if it's a Duke. Has Tony done any preseason games? No. He's got one. CBS has one this week. I don't know if he's on it, but I know CBS has one this week.
Starting point is 02:56:58 No way. It's Tony Romo doing a preseason game. You think those pipes are looking over any preseason football? Not a chance. No way. I would love to hear him in a preseason game. You think those pipes are looking over any preseason football? Not a chance. No way. I would love to hear him in a preseason game. I wish. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:57:10 That would become a full-on Tony Romo talking about life. Well, if the game's in, like, New Orleans or Miami or something like that or Vegas, I assume he'll do it. Yeah. Anywhere there's, you know, an extra pine or two. This is for shin pads? Yeah. Shin pad.
Starting point is 02:57:22 Shin pad. Signed. Got it. It was right on. Calibrate that. Calibrate it. That was right on line, though. Yeah, it's just heavier.
Starting point is 02:57:34 I should have known it was a pound. Calibrate it. Ah. Yes. Yeah. Hey, you got to earn it with that thing. You're not playing catch. No.
Starting point is 02:57:43 You are not playing catch with this thing. No. Hard plastic. not playing catch. No. You are not playing catch with this thing. No. Hard plastic. In the bucket. No. Nice whistle, though. Thank you. I feel like I could spin it a little bit. And that's a show, isn't it? There's one more football right there.
Starting point is 02:57:58 Greg Swain's watching. I don't know if you want to throw that one. Which one? It's on the money. No, and there's Vinny's ball here, too. Yeah, okay. Found this piece of wood underny's ball here, too. Yeah, okay. Found this piece of wood under my desk. Found this bottle. Here you go. Here's one with a little more water in it.
Starting point is 02:58:12 You want to throw this? How much? A lot more water. A lot more water. No, I'm not throwing it away. We're done, boys. All right, we'll do this tomorrow. All right, okay. Everybody take a break.
Starting point is 02:58:18 Throw a shinko while you're at it. Throw a chair. A lot of balls. There's a lot less water in here now. Would you chug it? That's good. It's healthy. That's a lot of water. Sit hydrated. Shit. I lot of balls. There's a lot less water in here now. Would you chug it? That's good. It's healthy. That's a lot of water.
Starting point is 02:58:26 Stay hydrated. Shit. I'm fucking hit. Here we go. Get legs. That's tough. That's a tough one. She's trying to.
Starting point is 02:58:36 Come on, shin guy. Yep. Made it more aerodynamic. Oh. Baseball. Baseball. Rightball. Baseball. Right here. Baseball.
Starting point is 02:58:49 Steeler's helmet. I don't know if I should be talking baseball. Yeah. Baseball. Oh. That went in. That went in. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:58:59 I think that went in. Yeah, that went in. Yeah, it didn't. Yeah. It didn't. Liquid death can, I guess. I'll be back tomorrow. We got to give away one of these shin guards.
Starting point is 02:59:09 You can throw this. Yeah, Verizon's good to us. There's nothing in it. There's a hat right there. They're really good to us. Chuck this thing. Imagine how excited someone's going to be to get a signed shin guard. There's a zinc hand sitting there.
Starting point is 02:59:20 Oh, no way. Can't risk a couple of those flying out. All right, we'll do that tomorrow. You might want a frisbee in it, though. Yeah, definitely get a cornhole toss, I think. You got to tape it shut, maybe. Yeah, it's fine. It's secure.
Starting point is 02:59:37 It'll be okay. Off Ray Mysterio's head. Can't throw that. You got this. It's a cornhole, right? Yeah, it's a cornhole. Get legs. This water bottle is good to get tossed now, too.
Starting point is 02:59:57 Just do the old Carson Wentz on the way back. Or Ben. Get going. That is. Yes. That's all it took. Let's go. First time.
Starting point is 03:00:11 First time. All right. Unbelievable. That dude perfect. That dude perfect. Retweet the video. What are you talking about? Say something nice to somebody. Use the hashtag PMS liveive, and you might win a fashionable Shingor.
Starting point is 03:00:27 Hell yeah. Autographed by me, forged by AJ, and everybody else on this glorious Tuesday. Shout out to all of you. You're the best. Thanks to Booch. Big thanks to Sean O'Malley joining us from his bathtub. And we can't thank you all enough for being the humans you are and allowing us to do this for a living we understand the show is dumb we'll continue to do that until you'll have us
Starting point is 03:00:50 no more see you tomorrow goodbye

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