The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 960 - Hard Knocks Episode 3 Recap, Mike Greenberg, Darius Slay, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

On today's show, Pat, Pacman, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night's episode of Hard Knocks and what they're seeing from the Jets, the news that multiple teams have already reached out to the c...olts in regards to Jonathan Taylor, and all the other news around the NFL as we are just 15 days away from the start of the NFL season. Joining the progrum to chat about his excitement for the Jets, what could derail the season, how Aaron Rodgers has changed everything, what he thinks is going to happen with Jonathan Taylor, his concerns for the Jets offensive line, and more, is 2x Hall of Famer, Host of Get Up!, and friend of the program, Mike Greenberg (27:58-1:00:40). Later, 5x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, 11 year veteran at Cornerback, host of the Big Play Slay Podcast, and current Cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles, Darius Slay joins the show to chat about Jalen Carter and how special he could be, Sirianni's development as a Head Coach, his comments about Jordan Love after the Packers game last season, how the defense has changed without Jonathan Gannon, how joint practices with the Colts went, and more (1:10:21-1:25:50). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this glorious Wednesday, August 23rd, 2023, this sports program starts now. Football is happening around us at this exact moment. There's storylines coming out of camps, there's contract disputes, there's trade requests, and there's great football happening all around the NFL. It is a beautiful thing. We are just 15 days away from NFL football. That is the toxic table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:00:38 One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys turn digs this year. The other half of the hammer, done. Cowboys is back in America after being deported for 446 days. That's Bubba Gumpino back there. And 14-year NFL icon. And a guy that has blessed this stage this offseason for three times a week for the last few months. Absolutely crushing it, bringing the energy at all times.
Starting point is 00:01:02 And bladed one in the part three right there. Yeah, almost hit a hole in one with a blade. Yeah, it's incredible. The guy's a golfer. Ladies and gentlemen, Pac-Man Jones. Big day today because some of the boys are traveling back to Pac-Man's town of Cincinnati to
Starting point is 00:01:19 watch Ole Methy play tonight as Inter-Miami travels to Cincinnati to take on Cincinnati FC. Pax, the plug for this, was at a game, chatted with some people. We got offered two tickets. Pax says, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, a little bit more maybe. I think a lot of...
Starting point is 00:01:35 Oh yeah, I will be there to see Methy in person. I think Bruce is going. I think Gumpy is going. I think Pac will be there. I think their whole crew. Tonight's a big night for the boys. Super jacked up. I mean, hopefully Cincy is better than Cleveland because those are kind of the two cities in Ohio and we all know Cleveland has...
Starting point is 00:01:52 It is actually. It is? Okay. Well, Cleveland has rats and stuff. Well, Columbus is also a pretty large city. I think they would want that to be known. There you go. Yeah, Blue Jackets. Cleveland, great city by the way. That Jack's Casino is very nice to me. Fun casino. It's awesome. Best place in Ohio to live is Cincinnati. It just came out the other day. Best place in the state
Starting point is 00:02:08 of Ohio to live is Cincinnati right now. So you'll be in for it. It's because the Bengals are good. The Reds are playing pretty good right now. It's entertaining. Guess whose town this is? Mine. You want to talk about Big Dick Daddy
Starting point is 00:02:24 from Cincinnati? My name is Leonel Methy. And this is my town, I think, is what we're thinking. But that place is going to be packed out, obviously electrifying. Right now there's a gumbling bet that you like. Yeah, there is. It is Messi to score and FC Miami to win plus 170. So, I mean, I feel like already kind of fuck Cincinnati, but it is what it is. What's the name of the team that Messi plays for? Messi plays for, well, I just said Miami something. Cincinnati FC.
Starting point is 00:02:51 It comes before Miami. The word is before Miami. FC Miami? Yeah, there's a Milan that has this thing before. AC Milan? The other one? Not exit. Brexit?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Well, that certainly did happen, I think. Brexit was definitely a thing. Inter. Inter. Inter. Oh, yeah. Inter Milan. Samueletto. Hey, look, I know my soccer.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I remember when he was playing back then in Cameroon. Of course you do. Yeah, I'm super excited for Matthew. Me and Bruce were talking, though. If he doesn't play, boy, oh, boy, I'm going to drive back to him. He's starting. He's starting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:21 He's starting. There is rumblings. There is rumblings. Maybe only the first half, though. Yeah. Why? Just because it's Cincinnati? Perfect.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Doesn't this matter? Yeah, it would be. Get home early. Exactly. That's a little bit of a drive over there now. This is another cup, though. You want to get another cup here. This is another tournament?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Another cup. U.S. Open cup here. Exactly. What the fuck are we talking about? Jesus, why does soccer do this? I thought we just won the big one. What was it? The league?
Starting point is 00:03:42 Well, that was the one that was with the Mexican League. This is just the MLS teams. The ones that the River Hounds were in. We're beating on MLS teams. This is that cup. Didn't they beat Cincinnati FC? No, they lost to Cincinnati. That's how they got knocked out. Oh, so if the Pittsburgh River Hounds beat Cincinnati FC,
Starting point is 00:03:58 Methy is going to Pittsburgh? Oh my god, that would have been awesome. Soccer in America is awesome. Sorry. Love everything about it. I'm on the stadium moving turf, though, so I don't know if he would have played. No, he said he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:04:11 He said, I've never said I wouldn't play on turf is what he said in his press conference. Now, he had the little ear thing that they have on at those power summits where all those leaders of the world don't understand what the other people are saying. Right. So it translates immediately into his ear. And then that's great technology, by the way. And then he's able to respond. He said, I never said anything about not playing on turf. I don't know where that narrative came from.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I guess other Europeans have potentially said that. The Greatest Fall of Time said, I'm getting a percentage of ticket sales. Yeah. I'll be there. Yeah, I'll play on your turf. Come on. Maybe, what is it? They got turf or grass at Cincinnati?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Grass. Oh, so that doesn't even matter. That doesn't even matter. If he subs out at half, I'm going to pitch myself over the sweet barrier and just live in Cincinnati forever. Why? Because I drove all the way to Cincinnati to watch Methy, and if Methy doesn't score in the first half.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Of course, if his game is going down to the wire, he's going to probably end up playing more. He's going for Cincinnati FC. And then afterwards, he's going to try to work his way in to take a selfie probably with Methy if I had to guess. Pac, what are the chances you get a selfie with Methy tonight? I feel like pretty good. This feels like something you work the angle pretty good at.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I probably, 90% chance. Dude, he's got that little security guard. He knows jujitsu, the guy. The guy plays no games. Yeah, he snapped a thousand necks in his lifetime. Yeah, and he's ready to snap yours too, I think. For sure. He's got eyes on the crowd at all times because, Methy, people want to touch this
Starting point is 00:05:29 thing that has been gifted by the gods to play the sport that we love. I think it's why they're such an obsession because of how electrifying he is. And after watching a few games, I was like, oh, it makes sense now. Yeah. Oh, I get why the entire world is like, yo, this guy. He's a god. This guy's unbelievable because he's like Patrick Mahomes of football. Electrifying can make everything, but even like, I don't want to say even better world is like, yo, this guy. He's a god. This guy's unbelievable. He's like Patrick Mahomes of football.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Electrifying can make everything, but even like, I don't want to say even better, but like this dude has made a sport that is unwatchable. Like, must see. Overnight. So I would assume that people that watch soccer full time and this is their sport, they see this guy like, holy
Starting point is 00:06:01 fuck. It's like when Michael Jordan came into the NBA. And he was like doing these, you know, like, it was an introduction. I think that first feeling by a lot of the old heads, whenever Michael Jordan came in and just changed the game completely, is the reason why it's so hard to get people to even fathom anybody else being the greatest of all time from that generation, because they're like, you have no idea what basketball was. Then this fucking guy showed up.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And it's a whole different switch in hands. The whole shoe game, obviously. This dude flipped the NBA on its head. I think that's what meth-y is for a lot of people. Because for me, watching him, I love watching soccer. Played soccer growing up. Should have watched soccer whenever I was growing up playing soccer. Would have made me a better soccer player.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Was pretty good at soccer. Never watched soccer. Not one time. I saw the USA team down in D.C. Tony Miola, Lexi Lawless, Kobe Jones, and the boys. They went and did their thing. I obviously watched that. I seen the Columbus crew one time.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Went to a game, watched that. Seen the Pittsburgh Riverhounds live and in person. But on TV, there was no soccer ever coming on. No way. Not just me. That's a family decision, too. Tim McAfee's not watching that. Pittsburgh Riverhounds live and in person. But on TV, there was no soccer ever coming on the television. Not just me. That's a family decision, too. Tim McAfee's not watching that. I'm choosing to watch that.
Starting point is 00:07:10 It's either terrible cowboy movies or football is what he's watching. So I didn't get to watch it much. And then you try to watch it as you get older, and it's like, all right. Who has the time? It's like I'm watching a golf game that I'm playing in. It's just going to take forever. We're going to find one golf shot we're going to like. Then you watch Messi.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Buddy, he is remarkable. Even when his ass is just walking around, it's like, what's he going to do? He's just going to drink water. And then he touches the ball goal. Here we go. It's over. Everybody go crazy. This is the best of all time. Hey, congrats to you guys. Thanks for setting it up.
Starting point is 00:07:43 It's going to be an honor. Legendary. I'm excited that Messi's going to put on a show for us because I fully believe that. First time in Ohio, I assume for Lionel Messi, it might be a little culture shock to him as well. Oh, yeah. You know? Because is Kirk and AJ, the presidents of Ohio, remember they got the trophy from Ryan Day. Are they welcoming Messi and the crew? I would assume so.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Present the ball. Governor, mayor, two presidents of Ohio, Kirk Herbstreit, A.J. Hawk, welcome to our city. Now, we're pulling for Cincinnati FC, but you're going to hear some things from this crowd that you probably haven't heard in a lot of places. Welcome to Ohio. We're really going to test your gumption here this evening.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Some of these Ohio fucks, they've been waiting for this moment. It's going to be a time. Don't let Cincinnati FC get hot. Do not let Cincinnati. Number 10, Acosta, is a really good player. What's his name? Acosta. Acosta?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Love Acosta. Yeah, number 10. Acoustic guitar. He's a dog. Yeah, absolutely. Cincinnati seems good. Yeah. No, they're not. We're in first place.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I'm guessing Messi's not too worried about this Acosta fella. We are in first place. Let's get this straight. That's just what I assumed. Maybe. Maybe not. No chance. He might be, but I doubt it.
Starting point is 00:08:57 He's number 10, so he's up front. Who is he? Is it Acosta? Yeah. Acosta. Acosta's cooler. Yeah, Acosta. I mean, who knows what his boys call him? You know what I mean? I like Electric better than Acosta, but, I mean, he can do whatever he wants. Acosta? Yeah. Acosta. Acosta's cooler. Yeah, Acosta. I mean, who knows what his boys call him.
Starting point is 00:09:05 You know what I mean? I like electric better than Acosta, but, I mean, he can do whatever he wants. He's midfielder. Angulo tonight. All these dudes. Where's the defense at? There it is. Welcome to the Thunderdome, defense.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Good luck. Messi is coming to town. You know, this is like whenever left tackles are playing somebody that's just absurd. You don't sleep the whole week leading up to. This is like whenever left tackles are playing somebody that's just absurd. You don't sleep the whole week leading up to. These dudes just woke up this morning and are like, I play in the MLS. And now I got to fuck him. All of a sudden. Now all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:09:34 This guy. Matthew's coming to town. Breaks his friends. And then they got their boys saying, tonight's not you prove yourself. To the entire world, you prove that you belong. This is the world stage. We've been behind you since. You've is the world stage we've been behind you since you've been the best player we've ever been around like everybody in the mls
Starting point is 00:09:48 they've they've been the best players in all of their leagues all their teams at every single stage you know everybody talks shit on the mls and comparing it to uh you know the leagues overseas or whatever it's like well we got the greatest player of all time now so if you want to talk guy also just lit up the fucking world cup yeah like you know what i mean it's like, well, we got the greatest player of all time now. Guy also just lit up the fucking World Cup. It's not like anybody's stopping him. All these guys are incredible at soccer. Their whole lives.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Seven-year-olds. This guy's the guy. They've been treated like meth-y in every one of their clubs that they have played through. And then tonight they wake up and it's like, am I really what everybody says I am? But imagine you have a good night against Messi. Then you probably live
Starting point is 00:10:30 with that forever. Go overseas. You're probably getting signed immediately. Hey, let's go over there. What's going on in Saudi Arabia with Benzema? He got paid a couple hundred million dollars and the coach said, I ain't playing him. Is that what's going on? Some guy who used to coach the Wolverhampton Wanderers actually said, Benzema, you can't have the armband, and I actually don't even want you on my team.
Starting point is 00:10:49 What was his contract? $900 million? So does the coach know that that is the deal? Is he the only one that's so entrenched in football that he doesn't even know what this guy got paid? Because the coach, who's openly complaining, I assume he's— Yeah, I was going to say, can we double check? I assume this guy's been beheaded already. They already killed this guy.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I don't know if... Yeah, you're not the coach anymore. You think they didn't even think about firing him or trying to change anything? Nope. You think immediate, farthest punishment imaginable because this guy doesn't want Benzema to have the captain's band? Exactly. I mean, maybe. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We'll keep up with the story. This is the first time we've heard of one of these billion-dollar contracts in Saudi Arabia just from one of the teams being like, we didn't make this decision. Yeah. I don't want you here. Okay. All right. We'll see how it goes. Sounds good, pal.
Starting point is 00:11:36 We'll see how it goes. Let's talk about our football. Have fun tonight, by the way. Yeah. Be a good time. We're all going to be living vicariously through you guys. Yes. So let's make sure we're doing our research. Of course. We're all going to be living vicariously through you guys. So let's make sure we're doing our research.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Of course. We're getting the senses. Ooh, Messi just came on the field. It smells fresher. You know what I mean? Film a lot of it for sure. And if he doesn't score once again, I'll never go or watch soccer. I think tonight's going to be a euphoric experience for you big-time soccer fans.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I think so. Hell yeah. I think Goompy's going to be a real sploosh. I'm fucking fired up. It's been one hell of a week. You wearing a Messi tarp? No, I only have a PSG one and he hates PSG. Hated it. You'd be disrespecting Methi. I can't do it. Might be the right play actually because
Starting point is 00:12:13 you're going to Cincinnati FC. Yeah. So like, you can say like, no, this is to disrespect Methi, but then if you saw Methi, you're like, diehard fan, every single single time. So sorry I have you. You kind of play both sides of the fence there. I don't know how it's going to be. I don't know where you guys are sitting. I'm excited to hear who else is potentially
Starting point is 00:12:29 sitting with you guys. I assume Cincinnati royalty is going to be out in abundance for old King Matthew coming to town. Good for him. He's deserved it. He has earned it. Speaking of earning things, there's a chance Jonathan Taylor has earned himself a trade. Now, Ian Rappaport, who told us on the program that if he was to go up for trade,
Starting point is 00:12:46 there would be a lot of teams interested. Where I said, really? At this stage of the football calendar, with the amount of money we're assuming he's commanding in a sign-and-trade situation, and what the Colts are looking for in return, there's going to be teams interested? That was kind of alarming. Ian said, absolutely. Now Ian is reporting there are several teams that are interested
Starting point is 00:13:03 in having Jonathan Taylor's services this particular season. Now, does that mean at $4 million, which is what he's currently structured to get in his contract, does that mean they'll sign and trade him and get him to a number closer to where he wants to be long term, which was allegedly $17 million at one point? Are these teams interested in giving up a first? Or are they interested in giving up like a second and a fifth for the first round thing? We have no idea how serious all these contenders are, but what we're being told is there's
Starting point is 00:13:29 several, several teams interested. This is good news for all parties here, I think, Boston Column. Yeah, absolutely huge. I really did not think that there was going to be any. I thought that there was no chance Jonathan Taylor and Melka, or whatever the guy's name is, were going out to... Melky. Melky Cowell. He's a business man. Okay, well I thought Kiwi and Jonathan Taylor and Melka or whatever the guy's name is were going out. Melky. Melky Cowell.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He's a business man. Okay. Well, I thought Kiwi and Jonathan Taylor were going to go out and see if there was going to be any trades, and there wasn't going to be a chance. Who would have the capability to bring this guy in and sign him for what? Not $17 million a year, but are we thinking $12 million a year? Is that what he's probably going to command at some other place? Don't we always
Starting point is 00:14:06 say contracts aren't real, or is it just real in this situation? Yeah, I don't know. It's like what is what Jonathan Taylor wants, too. Like, have the Colts said, yeah, you can go look and then see what somebody else is willing to offer, and then they're like, all right, well, yeah, that was what the market
Starting point is 00:14:22 said. Here's what you actually get. Did the Colts offer a lesser amount of money and be like, hey, we'll give you three, four million more bucks this year. And then that works or doesn't work or does that work on another team? There's just so much to kind of figure out here. And we are just 15. There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Sorry, the days mush together a little bit. But, I mean, to Tony's point, you could probably do the Derrick Henry method, right? Because his was two years, actually 28, and it was signed four years 50 or something. Isn't that the – that might be the move to do for Jonathan Taylor then? Yeah, I mean, absolutely could be. What themes do you think? I mean, just looking at the money, Bears make the most sense.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah. But then you would also think like Philly and Kansas City somehow make something happen. But then you would also think like Philly and Kansas City somehow make something happen. I was thinking about it yesterday. Ibra Felice was there the year that he was almost the offensive MVP. Or did he win offense player or was almost the MVP? Almost the MVP. I forget who won the offense player of the year. It was not him.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Okay. I read. Justin. Justin Jefferson. But like Felice wasn't there for that bad year, so maybe he's got it in his head like, oh. This guy's unstoppable. You should have seen what he did in practice. He thought games were good. You should have seen this he did in practice. He thought games were good.
Starting point is 00:15:25 You should have seen this fucking guy in practice. Coach, last year not good. He's like, we weren't good last year either. So, we're both coming out of the same situation here. Maybe, and you would think that people that are familiar with the player's game would be the one most interested. That seems to be the way it is. You look at DeHop, DeAndre Hopkins, whenever he was
Starting point is 00:15:41 on the market, it was Vrabel who was interested in Tennessee, who was with him whenever he was down in Houston, and it was Bill O'Brien and Bill Belichick and everybody up there who were familiar with him whenever he was down in Tennessee or in Houston. When everybody else in the league was saying, nope, nope, nope, don't want this guy, doesn't practice, too much money. And then the guys that are with him are like, yeah, okay. So he doesn't practice a couple days a week?
Starting point is 00:16:06 Okay. How many paychecks do we all get because of a fucking catch this guy? Yep, deal. Boom, we're in there. I would assume Ibraflux would be a great outlet for that because he does know him. He does understand what could possibly become. And him and Justin Fields. Yeah. That'd be a fun tandem back there with
Starting point is 00:16:22 a weapon on the outside that commands a little bit of respect so you can't just pack the box. Feels like it would make sense for Chicago to get in there. But would they sign him to a long-term deal? Is that what Jonathan Taylor is looking for? And who else might come in here and just sneak in who's like a Super Bowl contender and be like, if we can get you for $4 million one year just because you hate them so bad, we'll try to do that as well.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Yeah, because a report came out this morning about the Bears kind of checking around for the Chris Jones situation because they want to spend this money and kind of maximize Justin Fields still being on a rookie contract because I assume if he is going to stay there, they're going to have to pay him a bunch of money. But also, isn't it possible that JT – that $17 million was his price to stay with the Colts? We don't know if all these other teams are coming.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah, no home time. They're actually paying more. Exactly. Did you hear what Jim said? Yeah, they're paying more here than somewhere else, which would be wild. That would be completely backwards than what it normally is. Right. So we'll find all that out.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Now, you bring up a good point there about Chris Jones. Let's start talking about him. Man. So just a couple days ago, it was like he quit the NFL. Somebody posted he's in the middle of a holdout with the Kansas City Chiefs. He also has tweeted that he's going to be Defense Player of the Year this upcoming year. Was a finalist for Defense Player of the Year. Now, obviously, he plays for the defense for the Kansas City Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:17:33 which is never talked about in any of the conversations because they've got Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, and Andy Reid, and they do the ring around Rosie. That's right. Ring around Rosie. So it's not a lot of conversation about the defense side of the ball in Kansas City. It's more so always about the offensive side. Chris Jones has just been an absolute
Starting point is 00:17:50 staple for them. Stone Cold Chris Jones with their first Super Bowl was something that we were all talking about. Now he's saying you're going to have to pay me like everybody else. He's come out and said he's willing to wait until week eight to fucking get a deal done and hold out away from the Kansas City Chiefs. Now is this him just showcasing to the world that he's serious?
Starting point is 00:18:08 I will miss games. I do not care. Is this him showcasing the world that he understands that there is some sort of rule, I'd assume. Week eight, if you play before then, something probably happens. If you don't until week 10 10 something probably happens contractually for overall years maybe i don't know exactly nick and i were looking um you have to you have to be the word is player must have been on or should have been on a full play status for at least six regular season games so and thereby is week 10 i think so then that gives him after that if
Starting point is 00:18:43 say he doesn't play week nine or whatever, he comes back and then that, I believe, is the six games that he would need to accrue a season. So week eight was potentially a cerebral answer by Chris Jones. But I think he was just showcasing the world like I'm willing to sit out. Andy Reid actually spoke about it this morning
Starting point is 00:19:00 in a press conference about the Chris Jones situation, obviously after practice. Here's what he had to say about a guy who's potentially a Defensive Player of the Year candidate. Now, two of the three Defensive Player of the Year finalists not in training camp. Bosa, the winner, not there. Chris Jones, not there.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Here's what Andy Reid has. Not that optimistic here. There's been no communication, so I don't know what's going to go there. But whatever happens, happens. I mean, not there, the game goes on, right? So that's how it works. Whoa, James.
Starting point is 00:19:30 You used to do the GM stuff too. You said you kind of like not being a part of that. But as someone who's a head coach and has been here for as long as you have, you know Chris so well, is there a way for you to get involved in this? Or are you just – No, not right now there's not. Yeah. They've got to communicate and do
Starting point is 00:19:49 their thing and there's just been no communication. Yeah, me giving this answer right now is me getting involved. Chris Jones is going to hear my fucking answer right now. He was speaking to Chris Jones there like, hey, there's been nothing here. He was also speaking to Brett Veach, I do believe. Hey, there's been nothing here. We need to get this done. I do speaking to Brett Veach, I do believe. Hey, there's been nothing here.
Starting point is 00:20:05 We need to get this done. I do appreciate the fact that you said, though, if he's not here, like, game rolls on. So that's Andy Reid also saying, like, hey, we are in a position where you're saying you're sitting out until week eight. We're also like, yeah, we'll be here. We don't really care. It's an interesting dynamic with some of the greatest players in the NFL right now.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And the interesting dynamic of all of this is winning coaches. You see what I mean? we are not allowing no distraction. You want to stay at home. And, like, same thing with the Colts with Jonathan Taylor. Like, that would have never happened with an Andy Reid. This is interesting coming out of the Kansas City Chiefs camp, though. Back-to-back years now because Tyreek Hill was last year where he wanted an extension, and then instead of the extension,
Starting point is 00:20:42 they were just like, all right, fuck it, we'll just trade you. Like, that could easily happen with the Bears this year and Chris Jones. It feels like that after Andy Reid saying that, and, I mean, they're one of the two teams in the entire league that are negative this year. They really can't. Good dap up with Chris Jones at the ESPYs. No big deal, I was there.
Starting point is 00:20:59 No big deal. I didn't host it, but I was there. Connor was there two times. Yeah, barely. Good dap up. Good dap up. Good dap up. You know? And that came right after his I'm going to win defense player of the year tweet, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah. I said, great tweet. You know? And he said, I'm going to go get it or whatever. It was like very upbeat and then walked out. And then as this news has come about, like, not at camp, not happy. Oh, he's not playing football anymore. He'll sit out to week eight.
Starting point is 00:21:23 This has kind of been under the radar as well. And this is our fault. We all talk about offense so much. And what I just realized in our last chapter of this conversation, Bosa and him not being at camp, I guess we've talked about. And the Bosa one doesn't feel like code red. No. Because he hasn't got paid yet.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And I think that's – The Chris Jones one feels like a Code Red situation. And I think that's why this hasn't because we've been talking about Bosa and, like, there hasn't been any concerns. Just like, yeah, it's going to get done. I mean, I think you just kind of assume, like, oh, the Chris Jones situation must be pretty similar. Like, they're not really talking about it.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And they know how good he is. They know how important he is. So, like, you just assume, like, yeah, it'll eventually get done. But, yeah, based on that, like, he might be gone. Yeah. There's a chance that another team will come in and pay. Now, granted, he's getting fined, right? Because he's a veteran who's already been paid.
Starting point is 00:22:15 So he's getting actually fined for all these days holding out. $50,000 a day? $50,000 a day, and then he'll miss his game checks, which are, like, a million-something a game. I know Chris as a person. I just don't see him sitting out eight weeks. I just don't see it. Imagine him saying, I can afford how many? Eight million plus
Starting point is 00:22:31 50 grand a day. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money, dude. So much. That's a lot of money. 1.4 plus his game checks of 8.2. Holy shit. We're not leaving that on the table.
Starting point is 00:22:47 No, but hey, he probably assumes that his next deal will be able to pick up for that and then some. I'm on his side assuming he deserves all the money. Hey, you're a great football player. Give him all the money. I don't know how they got to this point where Andy Reid's like, yeah, nobody's even talking to each other. And Chris Jones is like, I'm cool with sitting out until –
Starting point is 00:23:04 I don't give a fuck pretty much. I will – it's like, haven't we's even talking to each other. And Chris Jones is like, I'm cool with sitting out until – I don't give a fuck, pretty much. I will – it's like, haven't we had a lot of good times together? Yeah. What's going on here? Like the Jonathan Taylor situation, pretty much everybody fired but the GM. You know, like brand new, nobody's proven anything to each other at all. You know? And the hometown discount normally takes place
Starting point is 00:23:23 because somebody has like a feeling of commitment to a team. Like, yeah, you know and the hometown discount normally takes place because somebody has like a uh a feeling of commitment to a team like yeah you know what i've seen this team to go through this i've seen our team do this i want to keep doing this i want to kind of make this whole thing happen i'm not saying hometown discount is something that has to happen but i'm just saying the reason why you hear about a hometown discount that ever happens is because players normally build up a relationship with a building and with andy reed and vhach being there since the beginning of this whole thing, and them not having a relationship seemingly at all at this point, that's alarming to me.
Starting point is 00:23:50 How the hell does that happen? And does Chris Jones want it to happen? Does he want to go somewhere else so that there's a chance, you know, that he gets a little bit of talk, a little bit of shine? Because on the Chiefs, any primetime game they have, which is a lot of them, we've got to talk about Patrick Mahomes. You have to. Okay, here's a've got to talk about Patrick Mahomes. You have to. Okay, here's a segment.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Have to have Patrick Mahomes segment. Travis Kelsey is going to be the greatest tight end of all time. Have to talk about Travis Kelsey, and also everybody loves him. The guy can do every dance there is. Saw it on the NFL social media the other day. Sweet. And also his New Heights podcast, one of the biggest podcasts on earth right now with his brother.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Like, have to do a piece on Travis Kelsey. What about Andy Reid? This guy's one of the greatest coaches of all time. Have to do a piece on Andy Reid. The about Andy Reid? This guy's one of the greatest coaches. Have to do a piece on Andy Reid. The gadget plays. People love the gadget. Have to do a piece on the gadget plays. So now whenever it's like Chris Jones is sitting there and he's like,
Starting point is 00:24:35 I'm breaking like every record that the Kansas City Chiefs have. Like every single one of them. And there is no talk at all. I would hope that that isn't what this is about. But you could see that being a piece. Like, hey, I get no love for what I do. I'm not getting paid what I need to get paid or should be getting paid.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And all those things just kind of start chipping away. And it feels like that might be the case and why there's no communication. And if he ends up on a different team, like, hey, come to the Colts, dude. I mean, I would love you on the Colts. You know, if he don't make that play in the Super Bowl, we win the game. So, like, he's a dog, bro. I mean, I would love you on the Colts. You know, if he don't make that play in the Super Bowl, we win the game. So, like,
Starting point is 00:25:06 he's a dog, bro. Like... So good at football. Yeah. He dominated the Bengals in that area. Dominated. But then, as soon as that game's over, you know, Patrick Mahomes like, I am a home. Travis Bingo. You know? The run out of bounds. He probably thinks he might have been
Starting point is 00:25:21 defensive MVP instead of third or whatever if it wasn't like that maybe. Yeah, and I don't want to say that that is why this has happened. Just like the Jonathan Taylor stuff where I'm like, the reason why Colts fans feel the way they do about this, where the national fans feel a little bit different, is because there's just so much shit that just stacks on top of each other where people finally get to a point where it's like, nah. Chris Jones probably has that at this. Obviously, he does.
Starting point is 00:25:49 If he's saying, I'm willing to take a $10 million fine to not show up, because he could do a hold in. Yeah, could be there. Could be in the building. Now, granted, maybe Andy Reid and them said, if you're not going to participate, don't come in our building,
Starting point is 00:26:00 then that's probably a setup for a whole nother get back for your money for fine for not being there. Who knows how that'll get all handled, but that is not a good situation i don't like it at all so they paid him in 2020 and he's making 20 a year but then aaron donald's making 30 a year now because he got paid quinn williams is making 24 a year jeff simmons is making 24 a year so he's he's he's underpaid for who he is right now yes yeah that's no question about that and this is the last year of his contract, which you would have thought they would have loved to have got this done
Starting point is 00:26:27 before the season started. Yes, especially Chris Jones. But you think about what they did with Tyron Matthew, right? Yep. I mean, Tyron Matthew, they're like, all right, well, see you later. And they got somebody else. Justin Reed, yep. Yeah, that was just like, yep, same spot, same money here.
Starting point is 00:26:39 This is what we're going to pay you. So maybe they'll think about doing the same thing. Maybe a rookie who has played through their contract that has done well we'll be able to pay you what we did pay him before as opposed to what he's asking for his next deal i don't know we're just trying to catch trends of what veach and the chiefs are trying to do because this is a dynasty building right now yes it is so like we're in the middle of it i think when the patriots are doing their dynasty i was obviously playing for sorry kicking balls for a majority of it pac-man was as well i don't know how much everybody just like kind of studied every single thing that was going
Starting point is 00:27:12 on and like hey this is the greatest dynasty in the history of professional sports happening because you automatically got to start cutting things down now it's like let's watch the chiefs handle this dynasty run they're on yeah let's see what they do with a guy who's a defensive player of the year candidate let's see what they do with a guy who's a defensive player of the year candidate. Let's see what they do with Patrick Mahomes' contract now that he's potentially underpaid. And although he's coming out and saying, it's not a big deal, I want to win games, there's also going to be people potentially around him that are like,
Starting point is 00:27:34 hey, you know, some point here. There is Travis Kelsey. What are they going to do with him? They've obviously done a lot with their weapons, overturned, kind of keep it going. Veach has been able to keep this thing going. As they've had success, as they've had done a lot with their weapons overturned kind of keep it going veach has been able to keep this thing going as they've had success as they've had to pay people they've been able to kind of keep trucking forward on this dynastic run what we do with chris jones we shall see you bring up quinn and williams he was a star last night's hard knocks episode
Starting point is 00:27:57 and i believe the man that is joining us right now was highly interested in hard knocks not only last night but this particular season because it is showcasing a team that he has been a public fan of for a long time. Now, his public fanhood has obviously led him into a lot of situations and saying, oh, we fucking suck again. Not this year, though. It's different. It is different.
Starting point is 00:28:18 This man's been skipping around and dancing in his goddamn studio as of late and for good reason. skipping around and dancing in his goddamn studio as of late. And for good reason. Ladies and gentlemen, a two-time, two-different Hall of Fame inductee. Hell yeah. How's the get-up? Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Greenberg.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yay! We see you dancing. Hello, guys. Hey, we see you dancing on the set. You know, it feels like you're in a little different mental space. Is that because of Ocho over there as a Jet, or is this just standard operating procedure for Greeny when we're this close to football season? I'm just going to say it.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I love him. I mean, I absolutely love him. I had no idea it was going to be this good. Like, I'll be totally honest with you. You know how in favor I was of us getting him, and we all saw the video when he said on your show that he wanted to be yes i i suggested that i might be willing to sever multiple appendages um and this one that really that was the one that stole the convo you know you said arm too but i think you also agreed to but anyways yes you were pumped yeah you were very i was pumped but i think you also agreed to but anyways yes you were pumped
Starting point is 00:29:25 yeah you were very i was pumped but i will admit that it came with some trepidation like you know a lot of the stuff that's gone on with him and around him the last couple of years has been the stuff that makes you anxious what exactly are we going to get what exactly is his headspace where exactly is he going to be and how exactly is he going to handle this? Let me tell you guys, it has been infinitely better than I might have imagined in my wildest dreams. The idea that he would come here and embrace everything about being a leader, about being a teammate, about being sort of a member of the of the new york sports community and well beyond just the sports part of it he's been so much better than i could ever
Starting point is 00:30:13 have imagined i i i can't begin to tell you how much i've enjoyed it that doesn't necessarily mean that we're going to win the super bowl who knows what's going to happen okay but i think it means we've got a shot and i think he he could become a sal palantonio said this on get up yesterday like don't name it for 50 years has been this city's most beloved person because he did this with us once like i think rogers could do that i really do i think his legacy could be rewritten by this experience if it goes as well as it's going. This is phenomenal in our eyes. A phenomenal chapter of his football life.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Especially with how it all unfolded there at the end in Green Bay. And now old Cuz is making from the darkness to the Big Apple shirts and they're embracing it all. He's bought into everything. OTAs. He was there every single day. I think he's gone to every one of his teammates' events.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I think he's trying his best to showcase that, hey, I still got it, but also he's still pissed. And I think there's a lot of revenge body coming. Not only his actual body, but like revenge body. And you see it on hard knocks. Are you watching? And what are your thoughts as we're kind of seeing the J jets from a completely different light than maybe we did last year last year it was this dysfunctional operation that didn't have a quarterback the head the quarterback that was
Starting point is 00:31:33 drafted number two overall or whatever booed out of the stadium when he's playing buddha strafoski who won a great cup they didn't even know this guy existed standing Standing ovation for him. It was just dysfunction at the highest level. Now, you watch his Jets, I think it's got all of us believing, like, hey, this feels like a real team. This feels like a real deal operation. Last night, Woody Johnson comes in rocking some ice. He gives a motivational speech. He's all in.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Like, you said they don't have to win a Super Bowl. He's saying he's probably going to play for a few years, maybe three more years. Has to be won within that run. But, like, you got to feel, we to win a Super Bowl. He's saying he's probably going to play for a few years, maybe three more years. Has to be won within that run. But, like, you got to feel good. We're winning a Super Bowl. This is the first time you've probably fought this long time? It's the first time I've ever fought it.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And what I will say is it goes to show you just how important one person can be when that one person is the right person. There haven't been that many of those people, but he's one of them. And look, Pat, you would know this better than anybody because of all the years that you were around 18. Like Peyton Manning just changes everything. His presence, his, it's not just what he does on the field. It's so much more than what he does on the field it's everything that he is changes an entire organization and that is what um aaron rogers has done and i give him a lot of credit too because he recognized it i think before i recognized it which is to say when i go back
Starting point is 00:32:58 and i listen to what he said on your show the week after we played them the week after the the jets played green bay last year and beat them up he was talking at length i'm sure you've played it over and over again as have we on get up no he was talking glowingly and very specifically about the talent that exists on the jets and you just don't see it that well when when you don't have the right person to bring it all out. But Rod, he's changed everything. He's literally changed everything for the organization. And whatever it is he gets out of it, he is going to give infinitely more. And that's why you're dancing on Get Up every fucking week.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah, grabbing the jersey. And I'm getting better. Don't you think I'm getting better? Like I'm working on the move. I think i'm getting better at the dancing i don't know like i think you were good at the beginning you know yeah you're saying you're getting better like i think your first batch of like draft deer legs kind of cabbage pads little hitch in there yeah there was a little bit of a pump fake i think think you owned it. You know what I mean? I appreciate that it's happening. I thank you for saying that.
Starting point is 00:34:08 It's not my strong suit. I remember one time you guys had me doing up-downs, and I didn't even know what they were. So I feel like I'm heading in the right direction with this. Yeah, it's amazing, too, with how long you've covered sports that somehow there hasn't been some osmosis. Yeah, just one time. You know, it's a pretty fantastic feat,
Starting point is 00:34:24 and that's why you're in two Hall of Fames and that's why you're in two Hall of Fames. Yeah. That's why you're in two Hall of Fames. Let's start diving into the AFC East just a little bit more. And obviously Stephen A. Smith came out of his vacation and was like, you know what? Just like Craig Carton, my sources are saying stuff. I lost that ball, can't stand up.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Okay. I lost that ball, one-legged squat. Obviously at some point Stephen A. had heard that. I would assume that Stephen A. is not just making shit up. Then the one thing he said, I heard Stephon Diggs once out of Buffalo. It's like, I think we all kind of saw that. Stephon Diggs said, that is not true at all. But whenever you think about what has come out of the Bills as of late,
Starting point is 00:34:59 as opposed to like a year ago, right? A year ago, they were going to win the Super Bowl. Josh Allen's going to be the MVP. This team's going to do everything. Now there's like no discussion about the bills and if it is it's always seemingly some negative drama bullshit seemingly why is that and are they still the kings of the afc east in your eyes and uh go ahead i think people got a little tired of them yes last year was supposed to be their year. The logical progression of that team after they had Mahomes dead to rights with however many seconds were left in that game
Starting point is 00:35:30 that night and then obliterated the Rams in the season opener last season, the Super Bowl champion Rams in the opener, it felt like they were a prohibitive favorite. And then anytime you come up short of that, people are going to immediately say, well, your window is starting to close. I'm not 100% sure that's true. First of all, they have Allen, and he's phenomenal. Second of all, I think a lot of things happened to them last year. Allen got hurt, actually, in a game against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:35:59 They had this massive snowstorm in Buffalo that I think really impacted the community. It impacted them. I think that was a bigger deal than people on the outside recognized. And then, of course, the DeMar Hamlin situation, which had to be draining, taxing, emotionally devastating, whatever other adjectives you want to put in there. I still think that they're a lot better than most people are saying. We live sort of in a society of absolutes. They couldn't possibly lose. Now they can't. Is that your fault fault you think that's your fault probably i i am i i i fully
Starting point is 00:36:30 acknowledge that i am i am the master of hyperbole i am the the world's greatest overreactor i've now fallen in love with jordan love he's going to be a hall of famer so i make decisions really fast here's what I will say. Can I tell you what scares me to death? Because your first question was about the AFC East. I'll give you a general AFC East response. Jonathan Taylor could wind up in either Buffalo or Miami. That scares me to death.
Starting point is 00:37:01 He is so good. What the hell is going on there with your Colts and Jonathan Taylor, Patrick? Get something. Get it together. Schefter came on and kind of gave me a little toot as well. And Ian Rappaport gave me a little toot as well. I think the way that the Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:37:18 community and the Colts are viewing it is like, Jonathan Taylor was the mayor of that team in everything that we needed and we're in a full rebuild right now you know brand new coach brand new quarterback brand new vibes it was bad last year i mean we had people gambling on games we had people showing up late to meetings to treatment like the whole building basically collapsed and then obviously what happened in minnesota is like the biggest comeback in the history of the fucking NFL.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Like last year was a dumpster fire and Jonathan Taylor did not play his best football. Now, it's not just Jonathan Taylor's fault. Obviously, there's a lot of people that did not play well. So I think in Indianapolis, the thought is like, hey, we're trying to like, we are all trying to just get past that whole thing. So when Jonathan Taylor in April said, I'm going to play through my contract, like that ran in Indianapolis, like local news, like, yeah, this is the leader we need. This is what we need here.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And then all of a sudden, new agent, hey, which I hope they get their money. You got to do whatever you got to do. It changes completely. So I think that is why. I don't think it's just like, we don't think Jonathan Taylor is a great player here in Indy.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Jonathan Taylor is a fucking dog, dude. He's very, if he plays his best football, he, and given the opportunity, he's incredible at football. But here it's like, I think a lot of people are just like, if you don't want to be here, bub, like, all right, good luck. You know what I mean? Like, that's kind of how I think Indy feels. And that's kind of, I get it. Go ahead. And look, they're not winning the Super Bowl with him this year. So I get it. If they can get a first round pick or something like that, everything around that team right now has to be based on developing the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You've got to get Anthony Richardson to a place where a year ago today, we're talking about him the way we talk about Justin Fields. Is he the guy knocking on the door of being the next NFL superstar, the next Josh Allen, the next Jalen Hurts? That's where you want to be a year from now. And I get it. Jonathan Taylor doesn't have to be a part of that. So it does make sense if you can get a lot for him, a one or whatever it is that adds up. It would have been better earlier, though, when everybody had shit, you know, like when there was a window. Someone will do it. Someone will do it. Someone will give it to them.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Because, look, if the Jets didn't have Dalvin Cook, I would be screaming that the Jets should do it. If the Dolphins do it, I had Sal Palantonio, who is the opposite of me. He's not prone to hyperbole. He's been a reporter for 40 years. He said on my show yesterday, if the Bills get Jonathan Taylor, just put them in the Super Bowl right now. And I think that makes sense to me. So that scares me to death. I think Jonathan Taylor's ultimate destination will go a long way, could go, and I think will go,
Starting point is 00:39:53 a long way towards deciding who winds up winning a lot of stuff this year. Hell yeah. And I hope wherever he goes, he gets it. Somebody's got to pay him. That's a sign-in trade. That's not just a trade, right? Right. They have to make a new deal with him. No one will trade for him unless they know they're going to
Starting point is 00:40:07 get a deal done with him but he knows he's look he's for everything everyone people love him by the way um i assume you know him personally i don't everybody raves about him um that that he's a smart he knows he's not getting 26 million dollars he's not getting paid like he's a pass rusher he's not getting paid like he's a left i don't know if that's true but you think he thinks he's going to get paid the amount of money that you know that some of the big star that other look right i hope that those days are over well that's what i think a lot of like that's kind of a part of the whole thing as well because i think he was kind of taking a stand for the running backs as a whole, too. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Remember they had that. But he's going to get more than $4 million. I mean, the franchise number is $11 million. He's certainly worth that, and there are a lot of teams out there that can pay him that. And for him, that'll be a lot of money, and it's a lot more than he's guaranteed to make. I think you're misreading the—I mean, I might be wrong, Guaranteed to make it. Hey, I think you're misreading.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I think you're misreading the, I mean, I might be wrong. Because you would assume that Jim Irsay and Chris Ballard and Jonathan Taylor at some point over the last couple weeks since the shit has started. Where they've gone like, hey, we can give you like $4 million more. We'll make it guaranteed. And then we talk next offseason, it's $8 million. That helps a little bit. That's more than Austin Eckler. That's more than a couple other guys.
Starting point is 00:41:25 But also, you're going to be a free agent at the end of the year. You would think that that would happen, right? I would hope that that would happen. I would assume so, yes. But then, if that did take place, then that means that Jonathan Taylor and team said, no, we want to... You know what I mean? He wants his money now. I think he
Starting point is 00:41:41 wants a three-year extension. i'm just making things up here to be very clear that we're all we all are i don't know shit about fuck either and i'm in the city you know so it's like yeah but if you gave him you know a three-year extension at the kind of money that saquon barkley is going to make this year and and and tony paulo the franchise tag running backs i i would have to believe he would take that and look he's 24 years old listen at this point we're at this we're just speculating so recklessly now it's pointless here's what i will say i believe he's going to get traded i believe he's going to get traded
Starting point is 00:42:15 and i believe if you put him on the cowboys that could they should absolutely do it and that would shift the balance of power in the nfc i think if you put him on the bills or the dolphins it could shift the balance of power in the afc tony pollard's like what the fuck come on yeah you know just sitting down there in dallas jerry should love it he should love it my man tony pollard is he's a an accent piece ryan clark it great on Get Up. He said putting Tony Pollard in that offense is like driving a Lamborghini into a demolition derby. You give that guy the ball 23 times a game and ask him to run it between the tackles, he won't make it to October.
Starting point is 00:42:56 So he needs a workhorse. He needs like Zeke. He needs who Ezekiel Elliott used to be, and that's who Jonathan Taylor is. And then Pollard gets his, like, 14 touches a game in which he is dynamic and makes big plays. That's what he's meant to be. I think that is a perfect pairing. Was that your show where he said, Justin Jefferson, George Pickens thing, Ryan?
Starting point is 00:43:20 No, he said that. No, we played it, but he... No, no, no, we definitely got a pop off it. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Ryan, remember, we'll remind everybody. This just happened. Ryan, by the way, congratulations to him. Monday Night Football Countdown wins the Emmy last year.
Starting point is 00:43:36 That George Pickens-Justin Jefferson thing was obviously his opinion, and a lot of people disagreed with it. That's going to happen when you're stepping in there. And I guess the accent piece is okay, but I think Jerry said, I got a lot of faith ined with it. That's going to happen when you're stepping in there. And I guess the accent piece is okay, but, like, I think Jerry said, I got a lot of faith in our young running backs right now. I'm not looking ahead to that room at all. I thought with the Zeke non-signing and him going there, I assumed they were like, hey, Tony and whoever else, this is your room.
Starting point is 00:43:58 If they were bringing Jonathan Taylor, good luck. I think Swagu would love that, obviously, because they would be back in good conversation, good graces, if Jonathan Taylor is playing like he was playing two years ago, which we assume, right? We'll just assume that that takes place. We're going to hope so. I mean, he was hurt last year, and hopefully he isn't hurt now. Look, Jerry Jones told us two weeks ago he had no money for Zach Martin.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And then all of a sudden, he had money for Zach Martin. I don't pay much attention to what people say. Just pay attention to what they do. The Cowboys need Jonathan Taylor. I think the Bills need Jonathan Taylor. I think the Bills need someone to run the ball who isn't their quarterback, and Jonathan Taylor is pretty much as good at it as anybody. Everybody in Indianapolis would hope for Jonathan Taylor to get paid
Starting point is 00:44:40 and play very well. But if you don't want to be a Colt, Colt sucks when you're on team. So it just didn't work out, I think, is the way it views. Hopefully both parties will win. I'll be excited to see what that contract looks like before the trade. Pac-Man has got something for you, Greeny. Hey, Greeny, everybody's talking about Aaron Rodgers and the receivers, but nobody's talking about this running back room that you guys have in New York.
Starting point is 00:45:00 You got Brees Hall, you got Davin Cook and Michael Carter, who's played really good. How do you think? I have them in top two as far as the room in New York. You got Brees Hall, you got Davin Cook and Michael Carter, who's played really good. How do you think, I have them in top two as far as the room in the NFL, how do you think they'll pan out as a group? Yes, I agree. Pac-Man, I totally agree. They also have a kid they drafted out of Pitt named Israel Abanacanda, who I think is going to be a really good player. They took him on the fifth round, and he's another guy who's a good player. Look, there are, I said this the other day and Pat McAfee, you would understand this as well as anybody. There are three things that you can't have too much of. You can't be too rich. You can't be too handsome and you can't have too many running backs because they're always going to get hurt. So, I mean, one minute you're a luxury on the next minute you're a necessity at that position so i would i think that their their their depth is their biggest strength what dalvin brief hall
Starting point is 00:45:51 when healthy is a stud and this gives him the chance to not have to rush back he got hurt um i think a week after that green bay game last year so it was october of last year so he's now like 10 11 months removed from an ACL. Let him come back. Let him rev up and be 100% ready. Dalvin is phenomenal. Michael Carter is phenomenal. Abanacanda is a nice change of pace.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yes, Pac-Man. I think that the Jets are as deep at running back as any team in the NFL, and that is hugely valuable. Was it his left knee or right knee? Do you remember, Fabrice? I don't remember. I'm not exactly sure. Let's say it was his left knee.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Okay. Last night, hard knocks. He was talking to Sauce, and he said, yeah, I might touch 23 miles an hour today. It's like, okay. He feels like he's back. He was doing lunges, full leg up lunges, which is very late in the rehab process,
Starting point is 00:46:43 and also no knee braces when he was going against other people. I would say this is just dumb eyes. Yeah, he looked really good. Through these eyes. Sure. Breesall's back, I think. Yeah. I think you should be pretty comfortable that Breesall is back.
Starting point is 00:46:58 They didn't even have a brace on this guy, which that was surprising. It's like, okay. Normally they just throw one of those on to cover their ass. Like, yeah, let's just put a brace on just in case. He was wide open seemingly and bursting. And if they, I think Robert Sala said, I love competition in a room or whatever the case is. It's like that whole luxury to necessity bar that you dropped there is so good
Starting point is 00:47:20 because let's just say a guy hammy something. Oh, you got another all pro back here yeah like that is i think it was a brilliant move by them to get dalvin cook brilliant guys never look the season is longer now than it's ever been before um there's no question that depth at that position is critical and pac-man i'll go back to your question. If Brees Hall and Dalvin Cook are both healthy, that's the best one-two punch at that position in the National Football League. That's the best one-two punch at running back that any team has in the NFL. Garrett Wilson was the Rookie of the Year last year. Brees Hall would have been.
Starting point is 00:47:59 If he had stayed healthy, he was better than Garrett Wilson before he got hurt, and then Wilson wound up winning the Offensive Rookie of the Year. Hall is that good. Garrett Wilson won Offensive Rookie of the Year with five different quarterbacks. Couldn't really throw the ball that way. And that's incredible. And none of them were good. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Well, Zach's good all of a sudden now, it looks like, through hard knocks. But watching Aaron talk about Garrett and watch everybody else come and then what they're showing from the one-on-ones from Garrett, it's like, oh. He makes some unusual cuts. You're watching a highlight, and it's like, oh, this guy's going to try to get the edge or whatever, because you've seen so much football.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he's cutting it back like a running back after he gets the ball in his hands. That's the type of shit that Aaron has done very well with in the past. Like, let me put this right in a spot so this guy can continue to run. And if you can get yards after catch with that whole thing, oh, you guys, hey, you might have it. This might be it, Greeny. It feels like too much hype.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Oh, a lot of positive. A lot of positive. Too much hype? Too much hype? No, there's no such thing as too much hype. It's my wings, man. We've waited 50 years for this. 50
Starting point is 00:49:12 years. I'm an old man and this hasn't happened since before I was conscious of it. The last time the Jets won, I was one. So, I mean, there's no amount of hype that is too much hype for them right now and again rogers is the reason why he's been everything he's literally been everything for us he's the
Starting point is 00:49:32 biggest star in new york right now the city loves i got giant fans walking up to me in the street saying i gotta be honest with you greeny i love aaron i love him. I thought I was going to hate him. Uh-oh! It's the Jet City again. Wow. Oh, no! Wow. We got a Giants fan in here who goes, you know, for that preseason game,
Starting point is 00:49:54 sideline on Jet side, $150. Sideline on Giants side, $400. So let's just remember who's who around here is what this guy, old Brucey Soot, says, who's a diehard Giants fan. Yeah, it's a little bit Knicks and Nets to me, but it is true. I do love Aaron Rodgers, and it is cool seeing him's a diehard Giants fan. Yeah, it's a little bit Knicks and Nets to me, but it is true. I do love Aaron Rodgers, and it is cool seeing him become a New Yorker
Starting point is 00:50:08 a bit. But Danny Dimes was slinging it all the way. He was looking good the other day. They're excited. Saquon, immediately after that Zoom call, said, you know what? I'll take $12 million, whatever the deal is. And Jonathan Taylor was like, all right, you do that. I'm going to start a war over you.
Starting point is 00:50:24 It's great to hear. I do appreciate that. The only negative thing about your Jets is the offensive line. And that leads to what Ty wants to ask you about because he is a Packers owner, actually. Yeah, Greeny, last week on Get Up, you pleaded the Jets front office to trade for David Bakhtiari. And since then, Brian Gutekinds has said, hey, that's not going to happen, so you can forget that. Ari and and since then Brian Goodikens has said hey that's that's not going to happen so you can forget that so I was just curious if you wanted to take this opportunity to plead the Jets front office to trade for any more of the Packers best players and also um also how like it seems like
Starting point is 00:50:54 things with the offensive line are kind of cooling down a little bit how concerned would you say you and kind of just like the Jets fans in general are with the O-line going into the year. Dwayne Brown back. Yes. Today, I think. On a scale of 1 to 10, 11. Because the only thing that can derail this is if Rodgers gets hurt. That's a bad week here or there you can live through. But we can't get him hurt.
Starting point is 00:51:23 As I said, he is everything. So if the offensive line is as bad as it has at times looked, then we got a real problem. Now, I happen to think it's going to come together better. I hate the fact that I'm about to say this sentence. Like, Makai Becton is one of the most important players in the entire NFL this year. If he's healthy, then the Jets' offensive line, I think, will be fine. They don't have to be great. They just have to be average. And I think they could manage average with him. Without him, they could be in real trouble. And that's an enormous problem. And as far as the Packers are concerned, yes. Zaire Alexander, can we get him? Can we get
Starting point is 00:52:01 Aaron Jones? A.J. Dillon. I like him. I'll take A.J. Dillon. Well, you know, we've already got a pretty stacked running back, so I'll just take one of them. You can keep whichever one of those two you want. I'll take the other.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I like Christian Watson. I like Romeo Dobbs, actually. I like what I see from him. So, yeah, look, I could see us going a lot of different directions. We'll do our shopping. We'll go do our shopping in Green Bay again as soon as we get to the trade deadline. Yeah, they're open for business. That's not your fault.
Starting point is 00:52:30 You know what I mean? That's not your fault. They're like, yeah, four-time MVP. Fucking take them. Yeah, you got to do what you got to do. Randall Cobb, yeah. Alan Lazard, we don't want to. Yeah, do what you got to do.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And then I do appreciate the fact that LeFleur on the record was like, are you talking about Green Bay East when he asked the job, I'm like, oh, I like that. Behind the scenes, there's some shit being talked. Oh, yeah. I enjoy that. I can't wait to see how it works out because like you, Greeny, we all think Jordan loves a guy. But with that being said, it feels like it's Super Bowl or bust,
Starting point is 00:52:55 even though Greeny's trying to hype, tamper the expectations. Super Bowl or bust this year, going all in with an offensive line, not a bad decision. You talk about Aaron getting hurt. Could you imagine, Diggs? Yeah, Greeny, you said that's the one thing that's going to derail this. And I know you, just as a Jets fan and as a sports fan in general, you hate that he's playing this preseason game, don't you?
Starting point is 00:53:15 Listen, I've said this on the show every day this week. Take me instead, okay? I mean, don't let anything happen to him okay let me get hurt i'll i'll fall off a curb i'll do whatever it is you need if he gets hurt in this game and i don't i don't even i mean i don't like to put it out into the universe as even a possibility because i know he believes in that and if he does i do because i stand in firm lockstep with him on everything now um it would be the most devastating thing ever and i can't imagine they're going to put him in a position where that's even a remote possibility i have to believe they'll do whatever
Starting point is 00:53:51 whatever the things are that you do to make sure the quarterback does not get hit and is as safe as can possibly be i mean i remember when the jets they lost chad pennington for not the season, but it was months with a broken wrist in this preseason game. Mark Sanchez got knocked out for the year in this game against the Giants. Bad things that happen against the Giants. But there's no way in the world they're going to let that happen to Rodgers. They just have to not let it. By the way way can i just make one other quick um observation we ran a piece of sound from rogers today where where he talked about when sala came over to have a conversation with him about playing and he said well look i had a very nice conversation with robert and that wasn't the exact phrase but he just called the way he called him robert i thought
Starting point is 00:54:42 was really remarkable there's no other player in the NFL who just casually refers to their head coach by their first name. And frankly, what's that? Did you ever hear that? Like, Kit Manning never called Tony Dungy Tony. He never got up there and said, well, listen, after the game, Tony and I sat down
Starting point is 00:55:00 and we figured all this stuff out. It's always Coach Zobel. Brady's always Coach Belichick. I it i mean why are we tom brady said bill last week so i mean i think in the nfl you know it's a lot more like we're working together but i do believe coach is normally normally coach is normally and and we overdo it i mean what is it's not a military title you're just coach. It's not like you're addressing a general. I think it's perfectly reasonable for him to be like, listen, I was talking to Robert
Starting point is 00:55:30 and so and so, and there's no obvious reason to me why you shouldn't do it. I like it. I am completely in favor of it. Well, I want to let you know, if Artie Smith ever comes on your show after he gets another win in England, he will be deserving of the title Sir Coach Artie. He's trying to get knighted.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He actually said on our show, he said, I don't know how many games you're going to win in England as a head ball coach before you get knighted, but I'm going to try to find out this whole thing. And then he followed up with us. The last time I said that to the British reporters, the joke fell very flat. He said he's going to give it a go again. He said, I'm going to give it a go again. If he gets knighted, he would – think about how obnoxious that is.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Sir Coach Artie Smith. Like, he, like like won in on the whole title thing as well. But the way Aaron and Robert Sala have been talking about are his peers. They've been talking in years almost as anything else, which is a good relationship in the NFL. Now, Coach Sala, I appreciate everything we've seen out of you on Hard Knocks. When did you decide that Aaron needed to play and why was that decision made? you know i just told him we got one fucking up okay one up to do this all right and listen we talked about it last night you're a commander all right you're not a survivor our offensive line has fucking sucked so far and we got to change who we fucking are
Starting point is 00:56:39 right fucking now because if we go into the season with Zach Wilson, yeah, he's looked good. Hard knocks is great. You know, he had that long run. We're fucked if we don't have you, okay? Just go out there, play behind this shitty offensive line right now, and you show everyone you're a fucking commander. You're not a fucking survivor, all right? We got one up before the regular season starts.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Go get it done. How long have you been working on that? I just kind of, when I was watching it the other night, I kind of just did it out loud, and I like that's not bad no it's good that's good i'm happy it's here because we can we got that bowed head yeah oh yeah we got a bowed head here that we can just toss on and i feel like he's going to be in the news a lot i love the way he speaks man i really do i enjoy the way are you learning a lot about him from this hard knocks and what are your thoughts on him yes i mean look, I continue to believe that he's the second biggest X factor.
Starting point is 00:57:29 The offensive line is the biggest X factor. The second is him. And after two years as head coach, the only thing that can be reasonably said of him is that the jury is out. There's things about him I've liked and things I haven't. What I will say is that his job description completely changed this offseason. He went from a young coach with no head coaching experience who was taking over a young team What I will say is that his job description completely changed this offseason. He went from a young coach with no head coaching experience who was taking over a young team that was looking to build gradually, which is one thing, to a team that's expected, you just said it, to win the Super Bowl this year.
Starting point is 00:57:58 That's a very different thing. And as you point out and as is obvious, there is a very limited window here. Rodgers is going to be 40 years old. So whether it's one year, two years, three years, this is not something that you're waiting for the coach to grow into. So if this goes sideways this year, I do believe that's the first place you look to make a really significant change. They have the talent. They have the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Now, I'm not – Bro, you're on the back. I'm just saying. The pros are on the back of the eagle right now. You're the crow, Bob. You're the crow, Bob. You're the crow right now. Get out. I did not just fire Robert Sala, to be clear.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Well, well. I think he's got a... I think he's... The pressure is on him. The spotlight is on him to get this thing right immediately. And yes, I do like him on hard. Look, I think everybody likes him. From what I can tell, he's
Starting point is 00:58:45 a very likable person, but we need to win football games. Yeah, I do like the fact that you just said, that little story you told at the beginning of training camp about the crow getting on the back of the eagle and attacking the eagle and the only bird that does that and then the eagle says, oh, is that right? Well, we're going to fucking go in and soar a little bit.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And inevitably, the crow can't breathe the same air that the eagle can. You're saying, hey, Aaron's the eagle here, pal. You're either going to fucking go in sore a little bit. And inevitably, the crow can't breathe the same air that the eagle can. You're saying, hey, Aaron's the eagle here, pal. Okay? Yeah. You're either going to fly next to him or you're going to be on the back of the crow and you're going to die. I appreciate you saying that, Greeny, because that's probably how Salah feels. I bet you that's how every coach in that building feels.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Because when there's an expectation for success, all the coaches know, like, well, if it doesn't happen, Woody's not wearing that chain because of us. No. He's put a lot of money in this locker room. He's expecting success. All the coaches know like, well, if it doesn't happen, Woody's not wearing that chain because of us. He's put a lot of money in this locker room. He's expecting success. And if it doesn't happen, it's not where he invested hundreds of millions of dollars. It's probably in the group of dudes that are sleeping on our couches every single night. So let's remember that. Good luck to the Jets. Shout out to Sala. And shout out to you, man. Still
Starting point is 00:59:42 crushing. Are you back now all the way to season? Oh, I'm back all the way through the season. I've barely been off. Look, after last year, when you got the entire world counting my days, thanks a lot for that. I have been paying some attention. I think I've
Starting point is 00:59:58 worked more days this summer than you have. Whoa! It's pretty close. We took a long time. But yes, I will be in the saddle and ready to go. And look, you've been around our operation at GetUp. You know how we do things. You know how careful we are, how specific we are about the topics that we do. I never would have dreamt that I would live through a season in which the Jets were the biggest story.
Starting point is 01:00:24 This is like a miracle has fallen in my lap. If you think I'm missing a day of this, you got to be out of your mind. Since get up started, I've had Sam Darnold. Then I... Oh, yes. Good run, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Mike Greenberg. Yeah, Mike. That was awesome. That was actually the part I had. Sam Darnold. And in your head. All right, now let's just start. That's why he part. I had Sam Darnold in your head. All right, now let's just start. That's why he's in two Hall of Fames.
Starting point is 01:00:50 He was like, let me just take you to water here, okay? You're going to have to drink. But since get up has started, I had Sam Darnold. Now I'll let you fucking figure it out. You finish. Schafolsky, Flacco. Mike White. Everybody just kind of rolling through the names.
Starting point is 01:01:03 All right, let's get to a break. I appreciate that conversation from the suit over there. It brought back all my Jets hatred. I hate the Jets so much now. I just remembered it. Watch another episode of Hard Knocks. You'll be right back in. I do like the episodes, but no, I hate the Jets.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Thank you. I'm glad you're back. Yeah. It was a good episode last night, though. Yeah, it was. Solid so far. I like Sauce, the way he operates. Him talking to everybody on the offensive side of the ball, not normal.
Starting point is 01:01:29 A lot of people are just kind of isolated, kind of do their thing. Sauce seems to have a relationship with every human on the team. That's awesome. Them pointing out Thomas Morstead sprinting after every time he holds a field goal. Love it. So sweet. A lot of people ask me, what the fuck? I don't know goal. Love it. So sweet. A lot of people ask me, what the fuck? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I need it. The Jets fans, after field goals, when Thomas Morstead is busting a 4-6-7, 4-7, probably 40. I'm excited to hear that. Whoa! Yeah. Some videos in the stands. Thomas looks faster this week. End of the season.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Whoa, he's kind of lumbering around. never did the full sprint thing a lot of jumping though because when you're you're supposed to be like explosive like punting you have to be explosive like it's a very explosive movement but most of the time we're doing a lot of this right here yeah you know and then holding you're getting crunched Your entire body is just being put into a ball. You have to be tiny. And then you have to stand up. It's like, all right, keep these legs loose. When you're young, it's not a problem.
Starting point is 01:02:33 When you get old, though, boy, these joints start to fucking. Real tight. Got some scars here doing this. I'm going to go kick into this net. Oh, I missed one. Hit a guy down there. That's good. It's a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:02:44 So I've never seen the full sprint down the field operation, but maybe I missed out on something. It looked good. It looked great. He's a runner, bro. He's a whole thing so I've never seen the full sprint down the field operation but maybe I missed out it looked good looked great he's a runner bro he's a real big son of a bitch his legs too they actually come up to like my tits
Starting point is 01:02:53 so like stand next to him he's like three to four inches taller than me and his legs literally just come right up here it's like that would that would be really nice
Starting point is 01:03:02 for a punter for your legs to just be the longest on earth. But then when he starts running, he has perfect form, super smart guy. So I think when they taught him how to run, he was like, all right, here's the perfect execution. That son of a bitch is striding like that guy in Happy Gilmore. He's going, hi, hi. His first tackle in the NFL, you go back and look, it was awesome.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Because he actually walks a guy, and he has perfect form while he's running. I'm like, you're fantastic. Beast. Not supposed to be in the NFL, I don't think. No, I assume that's why the Saints lined him up at D-tackle that one game. Remember him at four-point? Oh, yeah. He's awesome, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:39 He's very intelligent. Super-duper-duper smart. He's very intelligent. Like, super-duper-duper smart. Like, I think if it wasn't a meathead, which he is, and like a super-competitive person, I think he'd be doing a very, very serious big-brain job. Yeah, NASA.
Starting point is 01:03:57 But instead, he's just one of the greatest punters to ever exist. And he full sprints after every field goal. This would be his second, right? If they were to win the Super Bowl, he's already got one. Yeah, he had a surprise onside kick against us. That was back when he kicked off. Because I was like, oh, he's running because he's got to kick off next. He's like, no, he doesn't kick off anymore either. Just fucking get a run in.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Randall Cobb saying, that's some of my favorite parts of the football, man. Watching you run. And then they got that slow-mo of Salah seeing him. What's going on over there? I love Thomas. Thomas taught me how to punt. So I'm very thankful for Thomas Morstead.
Starting point is 01:04:29 He was much better than me. He was the first guy I saw at a camp where I was like, ooh, that motherfucker. That guy can do what I can do. Because normally you show up at one of these fields, for some of us who have big legs, and you just watch people, and then you just go ahead and put your thing right behind them,
Starting point is 01:04:44 and you just launch the ball over their head. And it's like, all right, just kind of let everybody at this place know what's going on here. That was the first time
Starting point is 01:04:51 I showed up at a camp and I saw a guy hit a ball and I was like, I can't do that one. How far did that guy fucking just hit that ball? And then I go over and talk to him
Starting point is 01:05:00 and he's like, obviously I'm staring up and he's like, hey, how are you, Pat? It's a super good guy. I'm like, can you teach me how to do what you just did there? Yeah, no I'm staring up. Yeah. And he's like, hey, how are you, Pat? It's a super good guy. I'm like, can you teach me how to do what you just did there? Yeah, no problem. Yeah, no problem.
Starting point is 01:05:09 He's taught, I think when it's all said and done, he'll probably have like 22 NFLers that he taught. Damn. Yeah, while he's in the league. That's crazy. Yeah, he's an awesome guy. I'm happy he got a little shine last night. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Was he in the Ray Guy Award finalist too? No, but he should have been. That's one of the guys. Yeah, should have been. Huber should have been there. But they weren't. I was there. And I lost. Guy didn't even have enough punts. He wasn't on the stats. Didn't even have enough punts
Starting point is 01:05:37 to make it into the stats. 20 some punts. What are we even doing? He was greasing poles. He was a cool guy. Not his fault, Ray Guy. Yeah. Shout out, Ray Guy. All the time. Shout out.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Shout out. I don't know what the deal was with me. We had a beer the night before. I thought I won him over. Yeah. What a jerk. I think I was the only one drinking, which could have been a perfect problem. Maybe still.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Me and AQ Shipley just housing beers at this college football award show. Boy, you're not supposed to enjoy yourself. Have a good time. Open bar over there. Some food over there. Tim Tebow was there. The whole show. Boy, you're not supposed to enjoy yourself. Have a good time. Open bar over there. Some food over there. Tim Tebow was there. The whole thing. Yeah, you earned it.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Me and NoSean Marino were hanging out. I believe Colt McCoy was there. Me and AQ just absolutely getting blitzed. As you should. Absolutely. That was the first night we really ever hung out, and now we know. In the trenches. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:06:22 What a time. We had a good time. Joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a man who is a college football national champion, Now we know. In the trenches. Yeah, that's right. What a time. We had a good time. Joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a man who is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, but not a champion, but he is the champion of Ohio currently. Will he be greeting Mephi at the doors this evening as Inter-Miami takes on Cincinnati FC, a big-time soccer fan, father of 10, A.J. Haught.
Starting point is 01:06:44 a big-time soccer fan, father of 10, A.J. Haas. Yay! You're going to take old Axel down there and say, this is what greatness looks like. This is Methy. Methy, welcome to my state. Welcome to my city. Are you going to do that?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Unfortunately, I think we're going to have to miss it, but I'm glad some of the boys are going. Yeah, someone should have made me aware of this a couple days ago. I thought he knew. Oh, A.J., of course. Methy's coming to your state, and we're supposed to tell you about it in Indianapolis. Okay. This is kind of how things go.
Starting point is 01:07:11 People get fired from a company we don't work at. My fault. Exactly. You know what I mean? You have Methi coming to your state. Our fault. Of course. Obviously.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Hey, we'll take it. We're the reason. We're the reason you're not. We're the reason Axel's not getting a chance to see Methi. Okay. Sorry, Axel. Okay. I guess we'll live with that. That's on us.
Starting point is 01:07:27 All right. All right. All right. Should be fun. Should be exciting. I look forward to hearing the reports back from the boys. Well, we'll follow along through the boys' social medias and Instagram stories. It's pretty even odds on the fact that Pac-Man's going to get on the field
Starting point is 01:07:42 and be shirtless with Methy after the game. No question. No question. Sunglasses on. Shirtless. It'll be a video of him jogging. Speaking Spanish. Methi! Methi!
Starting point is 01:07:58 Smell me! Methi! And he's going to be right fucking there. Shirtless. And I assume he had already scored a goal and just beat the shit out of Cincinnati FC. No offense to Cincinnati FC. What? We don't know. I hear it's going to be a tough match tonight.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Could have been the Pittsburgh Riverhounds. Matthew's obviously lucky he's going over to Ohio to take on Cincinnati FC, the number one team in the MLS. But this is a completely different tournament. This does not count towards the MLS standings? Nope. So dumb. This is so stupid. What are we doing? in the MLS, but this is a completely different tournament. This does not count towards the MLS standings. So dumb. This is so stupid. What are we doing? I am so fucking sick of this.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Can you guys, can you give me a math equation about what matters and what doesn't in soccer? What was it last year? Maybe two, who knows how many years ago. It was every week. No, not just last week. Pac, not just last week. Pac, this is a thing.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Every single weekend. This is the MLS, though, but it's a different tournament within the MLS. The MLS Open Cup, man. Pay attention, AJ. Every week it's something with these people. I can make it simple. The issue is with the MLS Cup here is all the other leagues do their cups during the season because whoever wins the league wins the league.
Starting point is 01:09:07 You didn't make it simple. If they're lacing up their boots, it matters. We've watched more MLS fucker over the last, what, two weeks? My entire life combined. Three weeks than ever. All those games didn't matter. None of it. Nothing mattered.
Starting point is 01:09:25 They're still in last place and not in the playoffs. Matthews, T-Miss. I don't understand any of it. I don't understand any of it, but I bet you they're going to win. If I know anything about Matthews, they're going to win tonight. So congrats to Inter-Miami for winning another World Cup. That's right.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Another trophy. I think it's a semis. It's a trophy. I think it's a semis. It's a who? I think it's a semis. Oh, this isn't even a final? There's another game that doesn't count? I'm not going. Fuck this. I am so sick of this. Why would he play in this, then, if it doesn't matter towards them getting to the playoffs or the final?
Starting point is 01:09:58 Percentage of ticket sales, subscriptions to Apple, all that type of stuff. AJ never played in a preseason game. He's doing Floyd Mayweather right now. All these are exhibitions. Yeah. Just selling out tickets, selling out stadiums. None of it matters. Join us now.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I can't take it. I can't take it. So dumb. I thought we were finally back into like, oh, this matters. Yeah. This weekend, league's back on Saturday. Oh, I bet. I bet it is.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Until they decide it's not. Join us now as a guy from a real league. Okay? A guy that plays football great. Hell yeah. He also has a podcast that we all love called the Big Play Slay Podcast, where he said something about a rookie who hasn't even stepped onto an NFL field yet that is causing eyebrows to race.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Because he's not the only one. Everybody has seemingly talked up this man's new teammate. Ladies and gentlemen, all pro corner, Big play Slay, Darius Slay. What's up, dude? Hey, what's good? Hey, I don't know if you saw the clip, but it's obviously making its way around the internet. So great podcasting, good internetting. Whenever you call Jalen Carter a rhino and said,
Starting point is 01:10:58 this dude doesn't even know his entire strength yet. And then the other night, Brandon Graham was on a preseason game with Ross Tucker. And he's like, this guy has no idea how good a footballer he is. You said, I don't want to say any names of who I will compare him to and who I'm actually thinking about, but I've played with a lot of great players. This guy is unbelievable. What makes him so special?
Starting point is 01:11:17 And also, how do you feel about the team as a whole, Big Play Slay? This is good news. Oh, man, good, man. The kid's special, man. The kid's strong aggressive fast he get after it man um he played with a lot of chip on his shoulder that was the big part about him is man he played with a big chip on his shoulder he got that compete uh like i've been telling a lot of folks he for sure probably should have been like the number one
Starting point is 01:11:40 pick probably my mind you know what i'm saying besides a quarterback because the guy's really really talented man real talented yeah i think obviously a lot of things happened during the draft season for jaylen carter and none of it was good and i assume none of it was cool to go revisit every single week seemingly for him and then his pro day he was in the middle of a lot of very serious stuff happening it didn't look good and then there was a narrative like, ah, he's not going to work. He's not going to show up. Bad, whatever. Feels like the Eagles culture was the perfect place for him.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And what is it about the Eagles culture you think that makes him be a perfect fit for the city and for the program? No, great guys. Great leadership, man. I got guys that have been here for a long time. B.G., Fletcher Cox. Guys that kind of set the standard here and the standard been you know going on for years and years and um having fletcher them here uh they can like you know teach them how to be a pro teach them how to go about
Starting point is 01:12:34 stuff you know and we got one of the best uh security dudes in the world man dom man so dom is the best dude in the world man so he makes sure everything is handled properly so it makes you in a great spot, in a great space. So, you know, I can say the organization of Philly is very, you know, great at what they do as in, you know, keeping players on the team. Hey, shout out to Dom, man. Shout out to Dom. Dom the dude, man.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Dom the dude, man. Shout out to Dom. Dom's got some calls about 12.30, 1 a.m., 2 a.m., you know, where people are like, hey, in a spot, car broke down, thought we had a driver. We do not. Dom need to get home.
Starting point is 01:13:04 We got practice tomorrow. Need to figure that out. Dom got you. Probably an ex- car broke down, thought we had a driver. We do not. Dom, need to get home. We got practice tomorrow. Need to figure that out. Dom got you. Probably an ex-federal agent if we had to guess. Every team has one of these guys who's plugged in that can do it. Shout to Dom. Shout to the Eagles, though. Not easy to build that culture and sustain it.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Seems like you guys have. Go ahead, AJ. I'm curious. I know early in camp you mentioned possibly playing some wide out and getting some balls, maybe catching some touchdowns this year. Have you made any progress on that? I know the coordinators seem to be open about it. Man, I'm looking forward to it if they ever do.
Starting point is 01:13:31 You know what I'm saying? I told them if they want another 1,000-yard receiver, just holler at me. You know what I'm saying? I might go for 1,500. You know, if they don't get ball enough. Fuck around, maybe 2K. You know what I mean? You got A.J. Brown.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I mean, he's going to take up a lot of attention. You know? Devontae, people are going to want to pay attention to him. Is Corner out here? Nah, let him go. And then all of a sudden, you got single. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:13:54 I'm getting the easy work. That's easy. Why are you guys fighting the Colts? You don't want that. You don't want the Colts. You know what I mean? You don't want any of the smoke with the Colts, pal. Yeah, I heard.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I heard. We wouldn't be trying to fight the Colts, man. We built different. We shouldn't have never taken it that far, man. It should just stay professional play ball and just compete at a high level. But football is football, man. You know your joint practice gets a little chippy. How's Coach Sirianni this year?
Starting point is 01:14:18 He's calling plays, obviously, with Shane Steichen being sent over here to Indianapolis, which is, I think, why the joint practices are happening. And how is Sirianni as a head coach who's also calling plays? And what has the message been, basically? Like, we were close last year, but we also got to fucking get back. Like, what has his message to the team been? And does he have any manure or any other references or metaphors that we need to hear outside of the locker room?
Starting point is 01:14:43 No, hey, he done learned. You know, he been studying at family. So he ain't messing up his messages no more. So he got to understand of all his messages he putting out. But, man, Coach been just doing a great job, man. You know, him and Brian doing a great job at leading the offense and the way in coach the style for sure for the defense. Well, right now, man, we just building off of what we did last year, man.
Starting point is 01:15:03 You know, we a different team than we was last year. You know, we had an older team this year. We got a little bit younger. So I know last year we looked good on paper and we played good just like we was on paper. But this year we look good on paper as well. But we got to put the product out there. So it's a whole new year, a whole new team, a whole new look. We got to go out here and compete and earn that spot again. You know, it's all about starting all over. Not easy, especially that NFC East.
Starting point is 01:15:25 That NFC East is going to be problematic. Go ahead, Peck. Hey, Slay, I know early in the year before you signed your contract, you was looking or thinking maybe going somewhere else, but you decided to stay at Eagle. Tell me how close the DB group is and what made you decide to do that?
Starting point is 01:15:41 Just talking to guys, man. You know how the game go, man. I was close to going somewhere else, but then I thought about it. Oh, where? Do we know that? Is that already public? Oh, man, I was close to Baltimore. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. That was close.
Starting point is 01:15:58 I was probably like a flight away. But talking to Dom, talking to Howard and all this we got a very great understanding we found a way to get a job done and uh you know and i know the culture you know what i'm saying and um and where i'm from oh yes them boys practice a little bit harder than we probably do you know a different kind of way you know so uh gotta save these legs you know what i'm saying i'm on year 11 so i thought about my career and like yeah you know i think it's best to stay over this way
Starting point is 01:16:25 more chill understand i know i can get out of work don't need to move in and get on out i know where i'm eating you know i know yeah there's a lot of comfort yeah you know what i mean life is comfort man it's a comfort thing man you know year 11. uh i got time to be up every day in it. Yeah, old dog, new tricks, 11 years, long time. Hey, long time. Long time out there. You know what I mean? That's a long time being the best athlete on the field or having to be the best athlete on the field.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Have you changed anything with your body, or have the workouts remained the same since day one? Yeah, they're going to stay the same, man. I won't be doing nothing but chilling, playing a video game, and getting out through it. So you think you'll be able to, like, for instance, Pac-Man, 14 years a corner, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Wouldn't move to safety because, don't disrespect me, Heason. Is that what you're saying too? Oh, no. Safety is just a different language. I can't come from the top and try to tackle somebody head on. I need to come from an angle. I respect that. He did it strictly because I'm a corner.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I'm not a safety. Yeah, I'm a corner. You guys could get an extra like four years. A lot of money. Nah. Different level tackling somebody head on. It is. It's a whole different mentality.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Who are you talking about? Who are you even? I'm a corner. But you think he ran a 4-5-1, 39 years old, out here like two weeks ago. Yeah. You just assume forever you're just going to be the best athlete in every room you walk into, you think? Easily, by far.
Starting point is 01:17:57 God, it would be nice to be in an NFL DB. Yeah, it sounds sweet. DB is the best athletes. Do you eat super? Are you a super nutritious? Man, my grandma is almost going to be 90. She's been cooking collard greens and fried chicken every day and eating it, so I'm going to do the same.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Good for you, man. Yeah. Good for you. Love what you're doing. Been around 11 years. Obviously, you've seen a lot of things. You said some things last year that obviously got Ty to go from 6 to midnight. Go ahead, pal.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah, Darius, last year and obviously you played against Aaron for a really long time in the division, but then last year when Green Bay came up to Philadelphia and he got hurt late in that game, Jordan Love came in and looked pretty good after a couple drives. And then postgame, you said, hey, a lot of
Starting point is 01:18:39 throws this guy was making kind of reminded me of 12 out there. What was it that you saw from him that kind of reminded you of Rodgers? And do you think that, like, Packers fans should be very confident in Jordan Love going forward? Man, just his – how he had thrown the ball, man. You know, off the back foot, fast, quick release, quick decisions. You know, so a gunslinger.
Starting point is 01:19:01 You know, that's what A-Rod love to do. You know, he don't like to check down. A-Rod want touchdowns. So he had that to check down. A-Rod want touchdowns. So he had that attitude out there. I saw him out there just coming out of that conflict and controlled the offense, man, and I wasn't wanting to game for him, guys. So he was a great guy, man. That's the only film I got of him.
Starting point is 01:19:17 But a quick little glance of him, I was like, hey, he can really do this thing. So Green Bay, I think they do got a great quarterback in their hands. Tie with like a full report by the end of the week if you would watch a little bit more film than just that game. But let's talk about your quarterback, Jalen Hurts. Last year, going into the season, if this guy's good, they're going to be great. If this guy isn't good, he's gone. We'll get another quarterback.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Then obviously he goes on to do what he did last year, which was remarkable. Everything I see from him off the field, he's a guy. It's been like that alabama oklahoma he's got terrible fucking golf swing but he seems to be beloved by everybody what have you seen from jalen this offseason we know the screensaver is the confetti and like a reminder of what happened what have you seen from him this offseason and obviously he's paid now where do you think he goes and continues to go uh Man, he's going to go up, man. His potential is crazy, man.
Starting point is 01:20:08 The guys just come into work. Everybody, you know, great leader, lead the way, man. He come and practice every day, compete at a high level. Like I always told guys, man, a guy asks questions to anybody, no matter where you at, how it is. He just want to be the best at what he can do. And he's not just trying to be like, you know, everybody's Superman. he's just doing his job at the best level he can do you know he always say check his boss that's his main thing he love to say is check his boss so every day he try to do
Starting point is 01:20:33 is check his boss in practice and games and all so he tried the whole team to do that as well you know make sure you check your boss and don't worry about nobody else on what was that golf thing did you get a swing in i didn't see you did i see you hit one didn't hit one, but I got my golf swing pretty nice, man. I'm in the golf game a little bit, and I'm getting very good at it. 11 years in. You're rich. Yeah, you got to golf. You got to.
Starting point is 01:20:52 It's fine. It's way more better than football. I'm not going to lie. So what is this? It's one club, and you just got to hit the ball further than the defensive guy. Offense versus defense. Well, mostly we say, hey, you got to hit it in this direction and to get it closer to this.
Starting point is 01:21:06 And then I don't know how close he was. I wasn't there that day. But I think Scholl is stiff. I'm laughing at him. Like his immediate, ah, this guy sucks. He basically said, as they were doing that, and big dog here, one-handed. I see this on Instagram. Hits the shit out of it.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Is this like an everyday occurrence? Is this Sirianni's concept? And what is it normally? Do you get out of running or workouts or what is it? Oh, no, man. You know, Coach has got a great thing about us connecting, you know, so we do a lot of great things as a team, connecting, you know, just competing in a funny way. So that's one of the things we do is connecting, man. So he probably made us play golf that day. And, you know, see who would hit a far off as a defense. And, you know, we just hang with each other, kick it. That's basically what it was. Yeah. Speaking of kicking it, none of would hit a far offensive defense and, you know, just hang with each other. Kick it.
Starting point is 01:21:45 That's basically what it was. Yeah, speaking of kicking it, none of you are fucking with the kickers and punters in that game. None of you. Oh, no, no, no. Jake the Goat.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Hey, he's dog for real. It's 56 yarder the other day. 56 yarder just like a chip shot for him. Oh, easy, man. I'm telling you, Jake the Goat. And he can do that in golf.
Starting point is 01:22:00 He like that in golf. How's he in the locker room? Oh, he's amazing. He's the coolest dude. I'll say he's the best athlete in the room. I love everything you're saying. I love everything you're saying right now, Big Play Slay. I appreciate that. Let's say that
Starting point is 01:22:11 more often, though, too. Go ahead, AJ. I'm curious about Sirianni. You mentioned earlier how he may have done some self-scout when he's addressing the team. How have you seen him change? Has he gotten more comfortable in the locker room and everything, even though he felt, obviously, very comfortable on the sidelines last year? Has that even grown now?
Starting point is 01:22:28 Yeah, it's always – it gets better every year, man. He's starting to understand his team, understanding his position. You know, of course, you know, he was a young coach at that time, but now, you know, he's a veteran coach, man. He just about learned about – with the players, really, man. That would really kind of help him up and grow up to be like a better coach, you know, and learn more because he asks questions to the players and we give him our point of view
Starting point is 01:22:48 and he does well, man. I appreciate him to the death because, like I said, he's a great coach, man. He knows how to be a leader. He was born at a very young age, too, that guy. You know what I mean? And now, he's just maturing into this perfect football coach. That's right. He cracks us up,
Starting point is 01:23:04 dude. Love him. There was a run there where MCDC comes into the NFL. Oh, yeah. Then this fucking guy comes into the NFL, and it's like, here we go. We love what is happening. Then he ends up in the fucking Super Bowl. Yeah. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:23:20 And then MCDC's got this team on opening night in Detroit, which nobody would ever say, which I think Detroit fans have anything to say to old Darius Slayer? We love you, Slayer. That's all I've got to say. You know Detroit fans loved you. Actually, everything, once you got traded, went downhill. So that's all I've got to say.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Just love you, man. Yeah, we do. We do. We enjoy watching you. The Lions are back. They seem to be a different team. But these entertaining coaches, I love it. Speaking of coaches, you've got a new one.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Darius and entertaining as well. Pew, pew, shots, shots, shots, explosives, but as most teams go to the Super Bowl, they lose all their coordinators, and you guys lost Gannon. Now, I think it was CJ, GJ had some choice words about his
Starting point is 01:24:00 departure, but how's the new D.C. doing? How has the defense looked under new leadership you know, leadership? And do you expect to break that 84, 85 sack record that you guys reset last year again? Hey, I hope they do. Cause that means I don't got to cover that long and I get more picks like that. So I hope so.
Starting point is 01:24:20 But coach is doing a great job, man. The defense is amazing. You know, we just going to add this process right now. You know, it's trying to count. Just learning, adjusting, and, you know, trying to find a way to put my ability to help this defense be great. So that's what a lot of guys are doing right now. You know, we're at the end.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And guys are really putting it together, man. We're going out here competing. We had two joint practices. They've been great and amazing. So we're going to continue to keep growing this defense. You guys lost those joint practices or what? What happened? I mean, I don't consider joint practices never losses, man.
Starting point is 01:24:50 I just think both organizations are trying to get out there and get some great work in and get better, really. Yeah, who got better, though, do you think, the most? How did you feel about Anthony Richardson? Did you see anything? How did you feel about Anthony? Oh, man, that kid can slay. He got a horn on him.
Starting point is 01:25:03 He got a cannon. Like, man, I'm talking about, like, he's zipping it. Like, yeah, he kid can slay. He got an arm on him. He got a cannon. Like, man, I'm talking about like he's zipping it. Like, yeah, you're puking. And, you know, Garner Minshew, you know what I'm saying? He does his thing, but you can see a complete difference in arm strength quick. No offense, Garner. No offense, Garner. You're my guy.
Starting point is 01:25:21 He's not just Garner, by the way. I think it would be a lot of people with the way that guy flips their wrists a little bit. He's young. He's going to make mistakes, obviously. He's going to grow, and this is a conversation for you to have right now. But are you playing tomorrow night? I'm year 11. It's all right. Hey, you've earned it. You deserve it all. Enjoy the hell out of this year.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Thank you so much for joining us, and good luck with everything. I appreciate it. Y'all have a good one. Ladies and gentlemen, out of this year. Thank you so much for joining us, and good luck with everything. I appreciate it. Y'all have a good one. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Slay. Thank you. Yeah! Are you playing in that preseason yet? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Okay. Great question. That's cool. Yeah. Great answer. I don't think so. Year 11. 11 years?
Starting point is 01:26:00 That's a long time. He's been around a long time. Yeah. Shit. I did not realize. I feel like he's a young guy almost because he just makes plays and he's a long time. He's been around a long time. Holy shit, I did not realize. I feel like he's a young guy almost because he just makes plays and he has a great nickname. Well, it's because he's in Detroit for all those years.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Oh, yeah. Like Matt Stafford's been in the league four years. Exactly. You know what I mean? Football hell for a little. Oh! That would have been a good day. That would have been a good thing right there. Let's go to the phones. Shout out to Darius Slayton.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Shout out to you for reaching out to him. Him talking about that Jalen Carter, it feels like everybody that knows football is saying the same things that were kind of being said during draft season, but with everything that took place. I think some teams said, oh, we can't, that's going to be a bad decision, you know? And the Eagles were like,
Starting point is 01:26:42 they're saying this guy's the best football player available? Okay. Yeah, yeah? We'll draft him. 17 of his former teammates? He's friends with everybody here, pretty much. Lost to D-Tackle in free agency. Okay, so what did he do? That's not cool. That's not good. We'll tell him. We'll talk to him about it. But with that being said,
Starting point is 01:26:59 also, we need a three-tech. So, how we, or we, uh, yeah, I'll call Drew Rosenhouse right now. Tell him, stop taking visits.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Anybody else? That's literally what happened. Yeah. Remember Rosenhouse came out and said, I'm not sending my client to anybody outside the top 10. And everybody was like, why are you doing that? Drew?
Starting point is 01:27:19 Why are you, you think I don't know the draft? Yeah. First, you think I don't know. You think I don't know who's going to draft them? And then at 10. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Boom. Trade it up. Yeah. Here we go. We are out of here. Let's go ahead and draft Jalen Carter. Good for him. Good for the Eagles fans, you know?
Starting point is 01:27:34 Those Eagles fans deserve everything. They do. Yeah, sure. They do. I think there's a chance I'm going to be in the building for that tomorrow night. Oh, hell yeah. That'd be sweet. I think, yeah, because we're off on Friday because there's some shit happening here.
Starting point is 01:27:46 What's going on? What's next in line for the studio, Zito? We're going to add a lot of transmission stuff. Okay, of course. Sure. Of course. Whatever that means. You know what that means, AJ, right?
Starting point is 01:27:56 Yeah. Good transmission stuff. So things just won't work when you come back? Yeah, it's like whenever you pop the clutch and you miss the gear and then transmission sounds like it's dropping out of your car. Yep. That's what we're doing in the studio. We're putting in a brand new...
Starting point is 01:28:07 Granny shifting. Floating gears in here, doing that whole thing. Are we downgrading it or upgrading it? Well, in this particular case, I think it's just... I think we're past the downgrading part. We've already done that. I believe we've already downgraded. No, we have not.
Starting point is 01:28:23 I'll be excited to see... We have not done that yet. I thought that've already downgraded. No, we have not. Zito said we have not done that. Okay. Okay. I'll be excited to see why we have not done that yet. I thought that was already done. And I was like, well, don't really tell the difference. Yeah, I thought that was the first thing. Me too. So I was actually pretty comfortable with that. Not that pretty, yeah. Looks good still.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Turns out. Downgrade. You got downgrade from like 4K to something else because they can't transmit 4K? Bingo! Whoa. Smart guy. Big brain over there. It's like when you were doing games, right? you got downgrade from like 4k to something else because they can't transmit 4k bingo whoa big brain over there like when you were doing games right when you were doing remote games is it similar to that like they can't feed it through there or whatever bingo yeah so we're going we have to go down to 1080 but then the frames per second are 5994 there it is so that's actually higher than what the 4k is so it's allegedly 4k is 2997 we're
Starting point is 01:29:08 going to 50 something frames allegedly that is supposed to just off balance each other allegedly but whenever we built this thing we built it with all the technology that is you know in 2023 yeah and like the capabilities had no idea that we're going to potentially go anywhere else then you know espn has built their shit you know 10 15 20 years ago or whatever so now you know old zd back there and a couple other people have had to figure out the right place we allegedly figured it out okay okay i trust zd yeah yeah it's your production undefeated got it but i do love the fact that that is a part of the story yeah Yeah, we had downgraded our stuff pretty much, which is wild to think about. For the fancy people.
Starting point is 01:29:50 You should see when we're on a call with people who are obviously the smartest people on earth. And with our stuff, it's like we, excuse me. Thank you. We had the great grandkid of what you guys are talking about that we use every single day. So we get it. You're on COVID one-niner. We're Delta. Way past. We got it.
Starting point is 01:30:13 We'll go inside, social distance. We'll be able to... We got six boosters. You just got the first one. We're already in there. How you doing? Still got it. What? How'd that happen? I don't come at us how you doing still got it what how that happened i don't know don't talk about it that's a real deal that's a real deal dude it's coming back what do you mean man it's coming back never left don't listen to that don't listen i'm
Starting point is 01:30:37 not but i'm saying yeah you swear no see some of you people that dive into that particular world on the internet, Connor, 10 Diggs, you. Some people, it turns into their identity. I get it. I'm not addicted to it. Every once in a while, I'll get a little message and say, hey, streets are talking. COVID's coming back.
Starting point is 01:31:00 You need to change your algorithm. We need that not to just be a part of your life every single day. That has happened 30 times. It has happened recently here. Is that just because election season's coming so people on the internet are predicting that something like that would take place? Yeah, drum something up. I mean, it feels like this is the
Starting point is 01:31:16 classic political, you know, angle. Oh, you don't know. Why did I even ask? Someone in this office tried spreading that this morning. Spread what? This very morning. We just talked about it. Someone here has COVID? Who has COVID? Get him out.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Get him out. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. Get out of here. Who is it? Don't make eye contact. Bruce. Who is it?
Starting point is 01:31:36 I'm not looking at you. Where's Bruce? Don't make eye contact with me, any of you. I'm not looking. I'm looking right into the light. Don't even look through the screen. Who is it? You two are way too close.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Better dust your masks off, boys. No. Gump. Gump. 2024 elections come and get those masks out. This ain't Canada. We're not doing it. Yeah, in Canada, they have much different problems than masks.
Starting point is 01:31:56 All right. Let's get to the calls. Let's get to the phones here. I think we all agree we're not doing it again. Yeah. It's way too soon. You want to get me in like 15, 20 years. Right now is not the time.
Starting point is 01:32:09 That toothpaste didn't go back in the tube. But just real quick, smart people, figure it out. Okay, please. That's all we've been asking this entire time. Just figure it out. I would like that to happen. Well, you guys aren't abiding. We abide it.
Starting point is 01:32:22 The whole fucking time. Abide it, as you will. Let's go to the phones. Well you guys aren't abiding Well you abided Abided As you will Let's go to the phones Smart people It's too hot What's that pal Connor and the cat yesterday
Starting point is 01:32:36 That dog wearing shoes Was certainly not a cat And our president fucking knew that Your president knew that. Whoa. That's your guy. You live in America? Your guy.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Slow down here. Our president knew that was a dog. I still wouldn't group myself in with that. You want some chocolate chip? Chocolate chip? My biggest regret forever will be... Just real quick. Sad situation here, obviously, in Maui.
Starting point is 01:33:03 We have donated to, we think, the right thing to help. I mean, at this point, you have no idea. Yeah, you never know. You honestly have no idea. Legit, right? Isn't that sad? That's sad. I mean, you've got to do some research.
Starting point is 01:33:16 That's the problem. Like, you really do. Like, back in Plum, you know, the house that exploded? There was, like, so many GoFundMes popping popping up and it scared me to death i'm like there was one gofundme and i assume everything is good i assume it's all on the up and up they're looking for like six hundred thousand dollars and i'm like okay who's who's gonna be running a six hundred thousand dollar fund because that's pretty much oh yeah what happened that's a lot of power a lot of pressure too. Not a power pressure.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Who decides where all that goes? Who wants to sign up for that? So it's like whenever you're trying to donate, I don't want to say it's not easy, but it really is like difficult to kind of get through there. I think that situation in Hawaii is crazy. You see the videos of the people out in the ocean trying to just get away from the fire
Starting point is 01:34:04 and they're just hanging out in the ocean for hours that was oh yeah man as somebody who goes to hawaii appreciates loves hawaii like and i'm very fortunate to be able to do so obviously it's expensive to get to hawaii it's a long long way out there but when you're sitting on that island and you open your maps and it's literally the blue dot is bigger than the piece of land that you're on and you think to yourself like if like, if a wave comes, where am I going? Like, if a storm, where am I going? Let alone if the inside of the island was attacking you pretty much. Get out.
Starting point is 01:34:32 You have nowhere. That's scary. So, obviously, we hope everything ends. It's catastrophic, obviously. There's 850 people missing. Yeah, a lot of kids missing. Not just adults. It's sad, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Absolutely sad. We hope everything works out. But with that being said, they did not seemingly say a lot of good stuff to President Joe Biden whenever he was over. Well, that's because, you know, Joe, while they're talking to him, he's falling asleep and drooling in their face. I don't think that was the case. I think he was just, it was a very serious part of the speech is what I saw.
Starting point is 01:35:04 And he was kind of like a funeral type, like praying for them and then he got woken up but nonetheless bad scenes happening all over the real world yeah smart people figure that okay we need it let's go to the phones let's go to dale in kentucky what's going on dale donner in kentucky hey pat uh for me and for my buddies we're kind of researchers, and we go to a different college football game every year. We've got a pretty impressive resume, we think. Tuscaloosa, Ann Arbor, Madison. We are going to Morgantown in three weeks.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Nice. Need some advice where to hit, what to do. Hit. Backyard brawl. Hey, Dale, you're going to enjoy the hell out of yourself there. To be honest, I don't know exactly where the right place to, Jay. Hey, backyard brawl. Hey, Dale, you're going to enjoy the hell out of yourself there. To be honest, I don't know exactly where the right place to go is right now, but if
Starting point is 01:35:50 it's game day, just go to the blue lot. Go to the parking lot. The entire state of West Virginia will be in the parking lot, and you will be very welcomed. There will be a lot of booze, and I assume you'll have the time of your life out there. What about Club Z? So I think Club Z shut down. The owner that got arrested what about shooters yeah same owner he's in jail
Starting point is 01:36:09 actually i think still open no they changed the name i think i think it's a different name i don't know i spent a lot of my life going corporate is it corporate like a lot of other campuses so there was a part of town that got, like, where our house was, where I lived, was a pretty big, you know, good time area. Mm-hmm. I believe when your guy, Gordon Gee, came in. Your guy. My guy.
Starting point is 01:36:36 My guy. Came out of Ohio State, had a great resume out of Ohio State, comes over to West Virginia, this guy's going to save the world. Now he has a sweet bow tie. I don't know how he's done. I haven't kept up enough. But I do know that they just steamrolled an entire part of the city and put in
Starting point is 01:36:49 brand new buildings and everything. And that's probably smart because there was a lot of outdated stuff over there in Morgantown. But in my eyes, from what I heard, it did lose a little bit of its sauce. Pizazz? I did hear there was a little bit of pizazz lost in Morgantown. But I'm assuming if Morgantown is out.
Starting point is 01:37:07 That guy used to run Lazy Lizard, actually, by the way. That's Vlad. He is now a big-time donor for West Virginia. Did he lead the team out on game day? He could. This dude's beloved. This dude is beloved. Yeah, he's a dog.
Starting point is 01:37:18 This was a sponsor event. Come on. Playing center, I thought, for you guys. He was even on the field. I'd take Vlad out there. Yeah? Yeah, I thought, for you guys. He was even on the field. I'd take Vlad out there. Yeah? Yeah, I would take Vlad out there. I've seen him have to kick some people out of Lazy Lizard pretty late night.
Starting point is 01:37:30 I might have been one of them. With the pads on? Is he wearing number five? He doesn't need pads normally. That's why you put shoulder pads on him. He's a gladiator. Yeah, well, that's when he's spunking right now. We're kind of getting after him.
Starting point is 01:37:40 What's going on? For good recruits. What are you talking about, bro? What do you mean? Trust the process. You ever heard of fucking coal mines? A lot of hating in here. Sorry, dude. I'm not hating. I'm just wondering. That's what? What are you talking about, bro? What do you mean? Trust the process. You ever heard of fucking coal mines? A lot of hating in here. Sorry, dude.
Starting point is 01:37:46 I'm not hating. I'm just wondering. That's fine. What are you even laughing about? If this guy shows up against Penn State, you automatically win. Of course, he will be there on the sideline. I think he has been for the last 20 years.
Starting point is 01:37:57 But if you go to a club and you see this guy, charming, uplifting, runs a good establishment. This guy runs a good establishment. This guy runs a good establishment. You feel pretty good? Your night's good if this guy's there. I love that I learned I had not seen him in a long time. Me and this guy have spent a lot of nights together. I'm a big fan of his.
Starting point is 01:38:15 He has looked out for me a lot. Old Vladdy has, you know, really looked out. When I saw him in full uniform in his video from WVU football, I've never been happier. I'm like, oh, he's around the building. That's good news. They had an 1891 club, which the 1891 club pack is obviously
Starting point is 01:38:30 a... It is obviously the... You know, we're 1891. It's the elite. It got all the trophies, all the bowl games. Yeah. The history of it. What's 1891 about? Well, that's the year that it bowl games. Yeah. The history of it. Yeah. What's 1891 about? Well, that's the year that it was founded.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sweet. Wow. Is that guy returning kicks, too? Are you sure? I hope so. I hope all these guys.
Starting point is 01:38:54 There's Neil. Yep. Look at them. Marine on the field. Fun fact about the 1891 West Virginia football team. They only played one game, and they lost 72-0 to Washington and Jefferson. Wow. WNJ had a wagon then.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Why don't we name it that? I think it's the first year of school, Paul. I saw another year, 1867, on one of those tables, too. They get clever. That was a different year for us. No matter what, there's an answer for the question. No matter what, you got an answer.
Starting point is 01:39:25 I have no idea what the fuck it is. I saw that video and I was like, what is it? And then I saw my guy, Vladi, he's wearing a pants. I'm like, this is awesome. I see an old guy catch that punt. That was a good case. Not easy to do that. Those lights were on, too.
Starting point is 01:39:38 1891 club named after the first year of football. Of course, that's what it is. First year of football. They lost, but they had good spirit. 0-1. Almost's what it is. It's the first year of football. They were fucking, hey, they lost, but they had good spirit. Oh, okay. Just 0-1, almost won. Completely defeated. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:39:50 You get cool things if you donate, and there's certain levels. Supports Mountaineer football beyond its annual operating budget. Impact areas include, but are not limited to, the fifth quarter program, recruiting, and special project. The resources generated from, yeah, the clubs, probably. I don't know if Vladdy's still running clubs. If he is, that's where you comes in. Generated from, yeah, the clubs probably. I don't know if Vlad is still running clubs. If he is, that's where you need to go, Dale. Go to that club. You need to find where
Starting point is 01:40:10 that club is. He's got it. The resources generated from the 1891 club enhance our recruiting efforts to bring in elite talent. Oh, this is the NIL. Yeah. Ah. This is their collective they made? Yeah. I didn't know that that was the name of it, though. If you donate $15,000, you get to create your own experience.
Starting point is 01:40:25 So I think you might get to do whatever you want. What? I get a million dollars for the children. You can kick off. Yeah, so you're now on the wait list, then, for the next year. 1891. I don't even know if I'm in a club. How come you're not in pads?
Starting point is 01:40:36 There it is. Yeah. I actually, if I was to do this, obviously it's not going to be me in pads. Could have been. There's going to be people hand selected hey no point these pads you know what i mean hey con man you made the west virginia mountaineers absolutely he wants to catch a punt in pads we'd also like simulated crowd noise in this stadium and i want the first night your own backyard brawl can you create your own experience where we all get to suit up and scrimmage the first team and see how that goes? Let's just bump up to the 20,000, see how
Starting point is 01:41:06 that goes. You lose. We lose. What is that even? You're acting like this is Turkey Bowl. Maybe. AJ, you're not playing. You don't have him playing. I've seen Tone. No, no, no. Tone's explosive, though. I saw him go through the blaster at camp last year. Yeah, but his feet can't keep up. The bones in his feet are done.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Like my feet at the tall head turn. Any bone in my body. 20,000 plus. Coach's sideline apparel special recognition. Love that. Inv bones in his feet are done. Like my feet at the tall head turn. Any bone in my body. 20,000 plus. Coaches Sideline Apparel Special Recognition. Invitation to members-only events. Elite Mountaineer event. Create your own experience. Two home sideline passes for the entire season. Two pregame sideline passes. Two away game sideline passes.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Alright, count me in for that one. You get a lot. You don't anymore, so won't it be? I didn't give it to this, though. I gave it to the kids across the hall. So if you do this, it can be the Pat McAfee head coach of class of 2007. That's going to be a little bit more expensive, I think, than $20,000. I'm just thinking those two home sideline passes for the season, two pregame sideline passes for the season.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Get the apparel, too. You could dress up like Neil Brown standing right next to him. Let's call and play. Do you get the vibe? Do I get to call and play? That is a question. That is a good question. I'm sure you could work that out.
Starting point is 01:42:06 If you get that really bad bowl cut, they'll let you call plays. Should we ask Duke to nuke? My experience would be calling the first quarter. One play. Or whatever.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Yeah, I was thinking the first quarter. Offense, defense, and special. Okay. Sick. Give him a headset. Oh, I got you $26,000? What's the deal?
Starting point is 01:42:19 Good luck, Mountie. When we play Duquesne, when we play Duquesne, we could probably call the whole game. Put me on a headset. Garrett Green's running wild. Good luck. He's. When we play Duquesne, we could probably call the whole game. Put me on a headset. Garrett Green's running wild, brother. Good luck. He's going to be one week removed from going into Happy Valley and doing his dance. Flying high. Do your dance,
Starting point is 01:42:34 Garrett Green. Do your dance. 20-point underdogs. Week one. How you doing? Keep it moving. Who are you taking? West Virginia. What are we even... Okay. I can't wait to see the screenshot of your bet. Interesting. Where am I gambling at this year?
Starting point is 01:42:49 Wherever you get the best number. You're damn right. We're shopping, baby. We are shopping. That's good news. Yeah. And you should go shop Penn State up to 34 and a half because they are going to wipe the floor with the Mountaineers this year.
Starting point is 01:43:03 You are a pig. Wait till you're wearing their pads and let's see what you got to say to Neil Brown's face. I would love to. Actually, you know what my experience I want? I want to bring in Mike Barwiss. Okay. I want Rich Rodriguez there. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:14 I want somebody to experience a summer workout. That's my experience. Oh, God. That's what I want. I want to watch somebody experience the summer workout that we used to do. Yeah. And I think we could serve drinks, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:27 And food. We get one of those tables. You got to finish it. You got to finish it no matter how long it takes you. You got to finish every rep and every run. And just like that thing was set up, we get tables on the field while it's happening. Sideline. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:43:38 You're going to be cramping up so bad. Vomiting all over the field. That 6 a.m. workout. Did you put Neil Brown through the workout? Are you talking about the Matt Drews? No, I'm talking about the Fitz, the 110s, 40s,
Starting point is 01:43:53 300s. Yeah, that's who I'm talking about. We did 10 of them, Fitz. Yes. 10 hunnids. 110s. I mean, 110s and then 1060s. The only reason why I know it's 110s
Starting point is 01:44:05 is because that was my introduction to fucking football conditioning and I left soccer so I didn't have to do conditioning and then first day of summer workouts this is the most running I've ever done in a practice in my entire fucking life and as I ran with the speed, asshole should not have done that my rookie year
Starting point is 01:44:21 was keeping up, but I ended at the goal I ended at 100 yards here come rich here comes bar was i had an extra one after all i said what the fuck what did i do it's 110 yards you fucking kicking pussy oh my god i thought there's a line i just ran you got it bro all right that was your first like real football experience huh oh yeah dude but now i was in great oh my god i was in great shape though like yeah of course you could run all day i'm sure yeah i did not i had not lifted i'd never lifted in my life before that so like in the gym we worked what did you have any expectations i mean that's crazy to think of just thrown in there
Starting point is 01:44:59 too especially bar was being the guy that i into. He is the toughest one you could probably get. Yeah, it was wild. But to his credit, I mean, he made me a monster. All of us. Yeah, I was Hank winning like 365, 395 towards the end of it. Locker's a wild place, too. I've never lived a waste until I went to West Virginia. I went there running 4, 500.
Starting point is 01:45:24 I was running, what, 10,800. But when I left West Virginia, I was running 425, probably 10,500. Yeah, Boros is the man. His entire crew was awesome. Except for that one GA told me I put my hands on my knees. I did not. My hands were on my fucking hips. Still to this day, I remember his face.
Starting point is 01:45:41 I remember just, like, being so mad. I was probably ridiculously hungover if I had to guess. Just absurdly hungover. Just got through your little workout. Thank you. McAfee, another one. Says who? Says you put your hands on her knees.
Starting point is 01:45:54 I did not. I'm a fucking senior. You don't think I know the game? You don't think I know the ha, ha, ha game? Yeah, you looked weak. I'm out of here. I'm not playing. Find somebody else.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I'm done. Find somebody else to kick and punt. This ain't happening. But Barwiss was the man. I'm very thankful for Mike Barwiss. He would get kicked out of every single fucking school if he was to be working right now. And every human that's ever worked out loved him.
Starting point is 01:46:22 But he would not be able to be who he is right now. It's crazy. Which is wild. Yeah. Like him calling me a kicking pussy or whatever day one. There's some kickers though that would be like, this guy called me a... Told me to pee or... There'd be a full investigation into that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:38 I told my mom and dad that. My mom said, was that that super cute guy that runs the... I'm like, stop. Not trying to break me. You know what I mean? You don't care. I almost fucking vom that runs the... I'm like, stop. I tried to break me. You know what I mean? You don't care. I almost fucking vomited out here. I quit soccer to stop running.
Starting point is 01:46:49 This guy's running me more. My dad, oh, what's he got you doing? All right. I need to do that. All right. I'm just trying to take three steps and kick a goddamn ball. I don't know what this whole thing is. The guy will fight me, though, I think.
Starting point is 01:46:58 He had muscle. It was like... His muscle was just like... It was actual rock. Yeah, he was a fighter. Remember? Yeah. He will fucking grab people. Oh, my God. Yeah, he was a fighter, remember? Yeah. He would fucking grab people.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Oh, my God. Did you guys get into a full gym? Yes, we done got into it a couple times. Full gym. Full gym fight. Bro, I've never won with him. Coaches versus players. Wow.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Yeah, guy was on a rear naked choke on somebody. Wow. I think I came in with a leg on one guy and tried to tackle him, and then all of a sudden, Barwiss is both of my arms behind me on the ground. I'm like, who's this? And I turn around. Oh, my God. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:47:29 It's all right. Oh, my God. Just kidding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You win. You win. You win. You win.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I tap. I tap. Go get somebody else. Go get somebody else. And then he gets up, and then I go attack a GA. Yep. Good move. Good energies.
Starting point is 01:47:39 It was good energies. Well, and everyone loving him. That speaks more than anything, especially if he was a massive prick sometimes. It came from a good place, though. Yeah. It came from a good place. You know, you got some coaches that coach hard and just disrespectful, and then you got some coaches that love the players, that just coach hard,
Starting point is 01:47:57 but it comes from a good place. Hey, motherfucker, get your ass in line. Yeah, to that point. That never really affected me as him talking to me because I know it comes from a good place. Yeah, I think what he said to me actually was, don't be a kicking pussy. Yeah, sure. It was like, hey, this is your first day. We don't need, I don't need to hear you right now.
Starting point is 01:48:17 That's not the standard. You got it. And then I just, we did the hill. The hill? Everybody knew we went out on Thursday. We had to run this fucking hill on Friday. Friday morning, yeah. It's a test.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Here we go. Got these hills. And Bar was, good morning. Just ready. I don't know how he was so awake all the time. I honestly just assumed he was on every single narcotic. Sure. Just every single morning.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Jacked up. You watch and you hear stories. It's like, no, that's how he is every single day of his entire life. He's got a bunch of kids now. You know, him and Autumn? They got a bunch of kids. He's killing it. Hey, Barless, we all appreciate you, buddy. Barless knows he wouldn't be able to be today.
Starting point is 01:48:53 The camaraderie on those Thursday nights, I bet, were also pretty awesome. Everyone knowing what Friday was bringing. Yeah, I mean, each night had a different crew that went out, though. I experienced that because I felt obligated to be out with all of them. Had to. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:49:07 Team bonding. Yeah. Monday's got to go out with this position group. Yep. Tuesday's got to go out with this position group. Wednesday, penny pitchers. So the offensive linemen are definitely out. All right, got to go find them.
Starting point is 01:49:20 All-skill position. Thursday is $5. Everything that's all-skill, yeah. That was a bent. Yep. Had to be there, too. Fridays, they got us in a hotel, off-skill, yeah. That was at Bent. Had to be there, too. Fridays they got us in a hotel, so we can't do anything. You're with everybody, then. Yeah, it's fun. Hey, we're all eating chicken cordon bleu. Nobody's speaking because Rich Rodriguez
Starting point is 01:49:34 is pissed off at everybody. Alright, let's go win a football game. Then Saturday after the game, obviously, Pat White's on our team, right? Yeah. Yes, we're celebrating. We're having fun. We're having a good time. And Sunday, yeah, let's go ahead and enjoy the NFL games on a sports bar. And then we start back over on Monday. Then you do that for four years.
Starting point is 01:49:49 And then you think back to yourself, should have taken that much more serious. But I had a great time. Part of the experience. Thankful for Morgantown. Thankful for Morgantown. I wish I was more mature. I do. I don't.
Starting point is 01:50:01 No, you don't. I agree. You're supposed to. You need to have a good – you need to have like a – that's why I worry about guys now. Like they don't get the college experience that we got to have because of just everything. They don't go out like they used to in a lot of places.
Starting point is 01:50:13 I talk to different coaches and they're like, yeah, I don't know, man. Like guys just – it's a little different now. Like just how everything is. They don't – they may hang out in each other's houses a little bit, but it's not like – they don't all meet up at bars that much and do everything. I think that's when you come together, though. Yes. I don't think I was respected by anybody on the defensive
Starting point is 01:50:30 side in the front seven until they potentially saw me chug a beer as the only white person in a club. You know what I mean? You really get tighter. The whole team, whenever me and Reed Williams, who's a red-headed guy, he is glowing, this guy. When he gets sun, he has a bunch of freckles that show
Starting point is 01:50:46 up. Farm guy. But like, us walking into like a D-line party somewhere, like the way we are treated by the D-line forever now, is just a whole thing. You need that. Those moments. I think especially in a sport like football, you need that type of stuff. But the way society has become, it's impossible to do.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Video games. These kids video games now. Well, also with video though, like, anybody does anything wrong, it's going to be. Video games. These kids video games now. Well, also with video though, like anybody does anything wrong, it's going to be recorded and sent out there, life potentially ruined. And they're telling them too. They're telling these, any guy that's any good, like, hey man, these NFL teams are watching. You can't go mess up. You can mess up all the good work you've done if you do anything.
Starting point is 01:51:18 I'm like, well, you can still go out and not get in trouble and hang out with your buddies. I don't know about that, Morgan. I think if you, uh, I think you're going to find some. I think you're going to find some. You're protecting him, Morgan. I was not. That's why you have your teammates, to drag them out of there.
Starting point is 01:51:31 That's what happens. When you earn all this young guy, he had some fire in the field. He's trying to fight every dude at the bar. We've got to get him out of here. That's how you bond. My bladder got me into some trouble at Morgan's. I was going to say, yeah, you had some lookouts. Yeah, my bladder got me into some shit at Morgan's.own. I was going to say, yeah, you had some lookouts. Yeah, my bladder got me into some shit in Morgantown.
Starting point is 01:51:47 So Dale from Kentucky, go to Morgantown. Know that every bathroom is going to shut down at about 2 a.m. And they just fed you all the alcohol in town. So if your bladder is active at all, keep an eye on where a port-a-john is. Make a deal with somebody that has a bathroom before you get into it. That would be the only thing that I would say is potentially a downfall of Morgantown. Other than that, great city. Lucky to go to college there.
Starting point is 01:52:10 And that Arizona State AD running his mouth, you're the type of guy we don't care for in Morgantown anyways. Because if you can't handle Morgantown, we don't want you as a West Virginia Mountaineer. Hell yeah. Because Morgantown's going to handle you. Yeah, it is. And it's going to be a great football season this year. Brother.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Well said. We're beating Penn State week one. Yep. Yep. No question. Definitely. You agree with that? Are you on our side?
Starting point is 01:52:33 Yeah. If I bet on it, I'm definitely taking you guys. Come on. All right. I need a picture of that. Duquesne. Be careful. Week two.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Week two. Jerry Schmidt and the boys. This is going to be a blowout. Done. Yeah. Duquesne's quarterback's a stud,? Jerry Smith and the boys. This is going to be a blowout. Done. Yeah. Duquesne's quarterback's a stud, I heard, though. He can sling it. Yeah, they're supposed to finish second in their division or whatever, and they're not even in a good division. It's better than third. I don't even know the name of the division.
Starting point is 01:52:55 West Virginia, it's the... Don't matter. It's the right above jail where our universities are located. Right? And that's what the conference is called? Cleveland, the university that's right above the jail. They play against UK. It's actually the sister conference of the SEC. What is it called?
Starting point is 01:53:13 What's it called? The Northeast Conference. Oh, the NEC. Never heard of that. Never heard of it. Is it maybe a cousin, distant relative? Sister. Half brother.
Starting point is 01:53:21 And guess who won? Who? The North. Who? The North. The North what? The North won. Yeah. Oh brother? And guess who won? Who? The North. Who? The North. The North what? The North won. Oh, you're talking about wars? Yeah, it defeated the Confederacy, I think. Actually, around
Starting point is 01:53:31 1867 when West Virginia started. Yeah, it's no fact that the SEC is greater than the SEC. I mean, if you're talking about overall wars, I guess you can't. Is that the 1891 team? That's a Hogwarts team. That's a squad right there. Those boys can play.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Seven players? Seven players. You need to bring that uni back. That guy in the bottom row makes the best fucking old-fashioned you could ever imagine. Third from the right? You're talking about R2? Yeah. Are those coaches in the white?
Starting point is 01:53:58 Bottom right is also an elf from the North Pole. He would fucking stomp you out so quick. No, that guy's deader than shit. You're going to have to dig him up if you want him to come stomp you. No, these guys are all still alive. That's all good. They are. No question.
Starting point is 01:54:11 They have one 35-year-old on the team in between the two coaches. Yeah, he wanted to go back to school. Sorry about it. What about the sideburns that old buddy did to the right? Yeah, he's a dog. Yeah, not bad. I mean. Wait, so they didn't wear pads?
Starting point is 01:54:22 No. No. This is West Virginia. We got grit, pal. Different braid. That guy's wearing a top hat in the back. Is he a coach or player? He's actually coming from the coma.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Yeah, he's a Nazi scientist. I think they brought him over. That is not Oppenheimer. You are a pig. No, no. He had an unbelievable offensive scheme. A lot of people credit him, you know, kind of inventing the triple option. In the veer.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Yeah, in the veer. I heard it. All I know is that guy kicked that ball and he's holding a corn ball. Hell yeah. Is that like a basketball that swallowed a football? Yeah, that'd be a rugby ball. Which kind of. It has a number on it.
Starting point is 01:54:53 That's how many guys they had on their team. 18-91. They rang the bell. That's a terrible ball security. The other 80? Yeah, it's like buds. Sure, sure. They couldn't keep up with the football.
Starting point is 01:55:03 So they keep track on the ball. Twelve players, I believe. Imagine Greg Swaim listening to this. Oh, my God. Just gritting his teeth into dust. I gave him another ten minutes. Oh. How about those pants they have?
Starting point is 01:55:18 Who, West Virginia? Yeah, Chris Angel needs a pair of those West Virginia pants. It's called fashion. Dude, they're sweet. I agree. I need the whole uniform. Nice. Oh. Oh, bunch of pants. It's called fashion. Dude, they're sweet. I agree. I need the whole uniform. Nice. Oh, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball.
Starting point is 01:55:29 Come on, ball. Just come on. Get left. There you go. Bonus ball, bonus ball. No balance. If this goes in, Washington's beating Penn State for real. Okay. I'll bet on it right now. For reals.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Yep. How much? A solid 25 cents. You're a pig. You're a pig. I think that would pay out maybe $25 million. That's true. I'll take that.
Starting point is 01:55:58 What are you betting on it? Huh? If this goes in, we're trusting the ball? The truth hole? I don't want to lose. That's the truth hole. I'll trust the truth hole. I'll bet $100 on it.
Starting point is 01:56:06 I'll take a money line on West Virginia. We've got great odds on money line, right? Boom. We're letting the truth hole talk? Yeah. Let's let the truth hole talk. So right now we can get it at plus $950 a draft game. I'll put $100 on it right now.
Starting point is 01:56:19 I'll tell you what, you make it. I'll make it my Lolita Whale Play of the Day. Right now. Rest in peace. Yeah, that's not a good whale play you want. It's destined to lose. Ah. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Too jacked up, bro. Lolita, why'd you bring her up? Someone said that earlier. I'm not sure who created that, but I like it. What? Is the carcass still floating in the tank, or have they... I burned that thing alive a long time ago. No, it's stuffed in Jim's office.
Starting point is 01:56:43 It's in the Jim Ursae collection. Let's get to a break, please. I'm so sick of all this. There's 15 blankets named after Lolita. There we go. What's nice is you don't, now that she's, well, unfortunately, since she passed away, you only need an 18-wheeler. You don't need an actual plane anymore.
Starting point is 01:56:59 You just need an urn. Nah, they're chopping her up. They don't need an 18-wheeler. Bingo. They're not chopping her up Are they going to eat her? They already did the autopsy We know that They had to They had to suck the stuff from her brain
Starting point is 01:57:10 To give to rich people like in Avatar 2 Yeah Correct I speak for Lolita's family Yeah Okay Yep Which is of course
Starting point is 01:57:21 Schmock-a-tay And Momma-tay Doc-a-tay Okay Doc-a-tay had a great fucking run on her Yeah Which is, of course, Schmockete and Docute. Okay. Docute had a great fucking run out there. Yeah. Bubble beater.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Your balls are showing. Yeah. Lolita will be hanging in Lucas Oil Stadium. By her neck. Yeah. What are you talking about? She doesn't have a neck. She's a whale.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Easy. Whales have necks. Oh, where? Oh, where? Below their eyes. You gonna choke it out? Yeah. Oh, my.
Starting point is 01:57:51 That was it. That was it. Poor Lolita. You're welcome, Lolita. Love you, girl. Hell yeah. Nice. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:59 You say sweet. Poor Lolita goes in every day. You did it. Too bad we can't. You did it. There's her neck right there. Yeah. That's her.
Starting point is 01:58:07 It's by the. That is her. What do you mean? Her dorsal flint had been flipped. This guy. 50 years. A dorsal flint like Matt Flynn. All right, let's get out of here.
Starting point is 01:58:18 We'll be back on the other side. Before we dive into some NFL news that is happening around Miami, we have to dive into some office news. That's right. We just found out that some barbarian just walked by Gumpy's cake that was gifted by, I believe, Hoop Edits is the name of the person that sent us this cake. And it was a big Gumpy free.
Starting point is 01:58:41 This Hoop Edits had no idea that Gumpy was coming back to America, had one of his friends owns a cake company make it and said, like, thanks for the inspiration, blah, blah, blah. Very nice. So we had this cake for Gumpy that's been sitting out over there, and it's like, we didn't eat it. Nobody really ate it because we're all kind of on diets right now, which is pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:58:59 Everybody's doing that, but it was a nice little show of respect. Somebody in this office just walked by and just fingered the top of the cake and just kept moving. Now, we hope it was a finger. And that's why Connor just said what he said. Oh. I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 01:59:14 I didn't even think about genitalia being dipped in there. That's bad. Who did this? There is a revenge person in the office today. There is a theory floating around right now that our good friend Tech Joe. Do you remember Tech Joe? Do you remember Tech Joe? Who was he affiliated with?
Starting point is 01:59:31 Pac-Man Jones. He was the guy that drove over here. The wedding. Yep. Well, that's how you remember him. I remember him from the great times when he was in our office in the Thunderdome when he drove over with Pac-Man. Now, the reason why the wedding thing happened is because he became so tight with our group.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Anytime Pac-Man was here, Tech Joe was here. Then he showed up in sweats and a hoodie at a very Italian black tie wedding in Pittsburgh, and we had to talk shit on Tech Joe. We thought he was a member of our crew. Like, all right. He's joking around. You can't do that.
Starting point is 02:00:04 You look like a fucking slob. What are you right. He's joking around. You can't do that. Joe, you look like a fucking slob. What are you doing? Bust a ball. You can't do that. So then I think Tech Joe was a little bit worried that maybe we didn't like him. We missed Tech Joe. Big time. We talked about Tech Joe a lot.
Starting point is 02:00:15 We loved his presence. Love you, Tech Joe. We loved Tech Joe. Love you, Joe. Love you, Tech Joe. Today, the place went bananas when he walked in here today. Then we just so happened to have a little fingering on the... I don't know what coincidence has. We're kind of lining
Starting point is 02:00:28 up here for Tech Joe, but Tech Joe does not deserve all the blame that everybody's already been putting on him. No blame. No blame whatsoever. Let's not sleep on mid here. I mean, the guy was probably flying around the office and fucking had no idea he did it. They told me to turn off the lights, but also...
Starting point is 02:00:44 Lights on the cake. Does anybody think about trying this? Have we asked them? He told me to turn off the lights, but also... Is anybody... Is anybody thinking about trying this? Have we asked him? Have we asked Mitt? Mitt, did you do it? No, Cap, that frosting looks sick. Yeah, we just got a little glance into the Hammer Don studio real quick there.
Starting point is 02:01:01 There's Tech Joe, obviously. Tech Joe. That is nicer than what he wore to the wedding, by the way. What he's wearing right now. He's nice. Mick, did you finger that cake? I did not finger this cake, I swear. Okay, and Tech Joe, we know.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Can you turn Tech Joe's mic on, please? No. Did not. See, that leads to the next thing that was being brought up. All right. You got to see your dick. Let's see your dick right now. Hey, Tech Joe, it's great to have you back.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Love you, Tech Joe. I'm sure he's glad to be back. You're accused of this on air. I'll tell you what. He cleared his name right there. I believe him. Joe's in a great spot, too. He actually said that he recently had a grandson, so he has his first.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Oh, congrats. There you go. It goes like 35, isn't it? So much has happened since Tech Joe stopped coming here. We had to keep him up to date on everything. Tech, we hope you come back again. We missed you. We missed you very much.
Starting point is 02:02:02 With that being said tech joe we need to utilize your tech to find out whose finger and cakes are up here uh-huh i agree because this is like in an uh nfl locker room where somebody's taking their shorts off leaving them in the shower you know what i mean not flushing the toilet oh it's like hey this is our house whose finger in our fucking case we have a camera in there no that's i don't think so where did you how long has this cake been around? Since Gumpy got back. Literally the day Gumpy got back. It's been sitting around.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Who does that, though? I would legitimately like to know. This is just like whenever you came in here and pissed on the floor at the last place. It's like, hey, I need to know who's doing this in our office. Maybe he was drinking and spilled some. I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 02:02:44 That's possible. Yeah, you got to go straight from the source. You don't bottle it straight from the source. But what I'm saying is that's an indicator. If they're willing to finger a cake and keep it moving, what else are they going to do? Yes, you're true. You are very true.
Starting point is 02:02:58 It's not good. So we're going to smith fingers around here. Nobody wash their hands. Nobody was eating it, though. Huh? Nobody was eating it for the last day and a half, two days. So they probably thought, hey, nobody's going to eat this. I might as well give myself a little taste.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Okay, cool. Now, we checked last night before we left to go to dinner, and it was. Pristine. So good, yeah. And there has been one person that has been pretty quiet. Who's that? Beal. Pac-Man.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Pac-Man, you fingered's that? Pac-Man. I did not finger the cake. Okay. I thought about thinking the cake. Actually, Zito stopped me. So you did this? No, I did not do it. How close were you,
Starting point is 02:03:40 Pac? I was opening the box. Zito was like? I was opening the box, and Zito was like, uh, we haven't touched that one. I took a picture. I'm going to send it to Fox right now so we can show it on screen so everybody can enjoy what we're enjoying. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. Is it pretty noticeable,
Starting point is 02:03:56 though? Pretty noticeable? Yeah. It's right next to Gump's face. It's like... It was more noticeable than Bill. Bill shockingly tried to smooth it out, make it look better. So, oh. You're trying to put his DNA back on there. That makes sense.
Starting point is 02:04:10 Hold on. Who discovered this? Bill actually did. Oh. Bill, I'm not letting it happen. Remember, we're not doing this. Yeah, I don't think it was Bill. Bill's died, isn't he?
Starting point is 02:04:21 I don't either. Yeah, right. He is. All right, let's talk about some other stuff happening. We just sent a photo into the group. This is what it looks like. You see right there, right next to Gump's face. Jeez. I mean, that's a big old chunk they scraped out of his finger. That's either a two
Starting point is 02:04:34 or a three finger operation from somebody. Great cake, by the way. Shout out to Hoop Edits. We appreciate it. Nobody ate it, but we did look at it. Yeah, it was a beautiful cake. I don't know how the icing was. Somebody knows. Yeah. It was too pretty to eat, it was a beautiful cake. I don't know how the icing was. Somebody knows. Yeah. It was too pretty to eat because it was so nice. Yeah, it was. I mean, obviously,
Starting point is 02:04:49 we know somebody there did it, right? Yes. Yeah. Okay. We will find out. Someone will admit they will have to. I don't think so because somebody peed all over the bathroom downtown and we still have yet to find out who that was. Probably the same person.
Starting point is 02:05:05 To clear my name, I smoothed over the point because Pat said we should take a picture before we throw the cake away, so I was trying to make the cake look presentable. I was saying we should take a picture with the... That was a miscommunication. It was a miscommunication. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 02:05:19 You were... Because we did compliment that cake numerous times. Like, hey, this is a really nice fucking cake. Look at the chains on that thing. There were two other people here this morning in the office that aren't here currently. Oh. I don't know if Tim McAfee has the gumption just to finger a cake and walk out. I think he would finger the cake. Not him.
Starting point is 02:05:38 And then he would tell somebody that he fingered the cake. Not him. PPP? Who's the other one? There was another guy in here. We don't have to say what he was doing, but. I have no idea. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:05:49 What the hell are people coming in doing? Shelbyville, I think, I heard. Who the hell? You're talking about JC. You're saying JC, the sign guy. The sign guy would have to have massive fucking nuts to do something like that. If he did. If he did. probably great signs.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Hey, look, Kyle, no. Okay, as we're trying to spruce this place up a little bit. That if he walked in here, and his first day in here, pitching an idea, learning an idea, and just saw a cake and said, you know what? That's my cake. Guaranteed business for me forever. With that being said, anybody else that's in here That did this
Starting point is 02:06:25 What's the deal It's gotta be something like that Cause you know If you've been here I don't know More than three days You know not That's just one fly
Starting point is 02:06:32 Right What the finger into the cake If you're a human being You kinda should know That like hey You don't just Stick your hand into a cake It's a hand too right
Starting point is 02:06:41 We're sure it's a finger I'm not sold Yeah I don't I'd like to think that no one in here would either set the tip of their penis or a singular nut onto the cake.
Starting point is 02:06:53 I don't know. At this point, I don't know. Especially after Bill kind of smoothed it over. Someone's got heavy balls. It does have more of a half-shaft imprint than hands at this point. Yeah. You have to weigh everybody.
Starting point is 02:07:09 I would assume that penis is partially erect as well. It looks like that to me. This might be a chins up, trousers down situation we might have to do. I mean, honestly, what happened? Chins up, trousers down? What happened here? Like, hey, seriously, Bill, what all did you flatten? Is this how it looked?
Starting point is 02:07:28 Right. When Bill. No, it did not look like this. You can see the actual cake on the inside part when I first looked at it right before the break. Is it possible it was an accident and they didn't taste it? They just dropped something there? Nope. Impossible.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Did somebody touch the top of the box? I need to know. Yeah, but aren't those boxes set up so that you can't taste it? They just dropped something there? Nope. Impossible. Did somebody touch the top of the box? I need to know. Yeah. Yeah, but aren't those boxes set up so that you can't do that? Yeah, plus it wouldn't be frosting missing. This is classic 2023, though. No accountability. Nobody's saying they did it. We'll just move
Starting point is 02:07:57 on to the next thing and it'll happen again and we'll say, oh, he did it, and then we'll never find out. This is part of the problem. We're part of the problem. Always are. There's cameras everywhere, though. There's cameras everywhere in that place. No, we do have cameras everywhere. In here, on every door. You could link it together, though.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Who was the last person to walk out of that room, wherever it was? We don't know when it was. What was the time? There's like a 12-hour period. We could narrow it down. You ever watch any of those cop shows? We could get the timeline down. Everybody goes into that room.
Starting point is 02:08:21 Yeah. Well, let's check their faces on the camera when they come out. Are they looking a little cheeky? Maybe even looking at their fingies. Are they Chad Ochocinco-ing? Sucking fingies. Someone's coming at her. You think?
Starting point is 02:08:36 Yeah, might be a chance. Let's just ask everybody how the cake was. The person that did it would know. Hey, how was the cake? It was good. Remarkably. Okay, so you figured it out. Bingo. That was like when we had everybody draw a penis. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Somebody left
Starting point is 02:08:51 a penis drawing on my desk. And I said, alright, everybody needs to draw a penis. And there was only one person that drew a penis from the angle in which Evan Fox... No. I was bullied. I almost fired somebody they somebody made people draw penises it was an investigation somebody
Starting point is 02:09:09 somebody left who did it foxy no it never was proven it was no conclusive evidence the only one to draw from the undercarriage yeah looking up at a penis oh yeah you can tell real quick whose it is. No question. There was a fire alarm this morning. Oh, no. Do you remember that? Pack once again, real guilty. Real quiet. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:09:33 I'll make that one. Thank you, Bill. Oh, the fire alarm. There's hair all over. What is there hair on? What? So it was not. Oh, it was the bomber.
Starting point is 02:09:42 Yep. Is that me? Someone did put their penis in this cake. Why? Who the hell put their hair? Is that my hair on this thing? There's hair on it? Really?
Starting point is 02:09:52 Oh, I just fingered the fucking top corner. It does move. Are you tampering with the evidence? Yeah, right now. Yeah, you got to pull it out. Yeah, we got to. So I just, I lightly grazed that. It's not on my finger, and it took out the top corner.
Starting point is 02:10:03 But you can see there's definitely hair on there, right? Today was big haircut day. Oh, okay. It was in a garbage can. Oh, and the hair does get put in the garbage can. Bill, flat. Bill, right?
Starting point is 02:10:20 And then he gets rid of the F? Yes. It was Bill. Bill, you son of a bitch. He'll never admit to it, though. Stay strong, Bill. Deny until you die, Bill, but I think there's going to be a lot of people that are just assuming it's yours. Why did we throw it away? Why did we fly?
Starting point is 02:10:38 I would have eaten it. Just cut around it. Cut around the balls. Oh, it's been here for four days. Maybe not. You can throw it away, Bill. Again. Well, well balls, huh? Oh, it's been here for four days. Maybe not. You can throw it away, Bill. Again. Well, well, well.
Starting point is 02:10:48 You can finger it again, too. How's it taste, Bill? Scoop out and get some of the actual cake. Yeah, it goes around the bottom, Bill. Come on, Bill. Let's see your dick. We've got to figure out if you did it or not. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 02:10:59 I just had to. I want to get to the bottom of it just like everybody else. Greg Swain's watching. Greg, we're trying to protect our culture. Yeah. Sorry, else. Greg Swain's watching. Greg, you don't understand. We're trying to protect our culture. Yeah. Sorry, Gregory. Everybody in business talks about a culture, culture, culture.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Every team, culture, culture, culture. Our culture had a little bit of adversity here. Yeah, it did. Maybe. Did Bill McCullum do it or not? I think that's what he did. I don't think it was Bill. Yeah, I'm going to say no strictly because he was in there this morning.
Starting point is 02:11:22 And I know Bill doesn't like to do his cheat days on his gym days. I mean, in fact, they thought they'd get away with it, maybe. Did they really think, hey, no, we're good. Yeah, I still think it's Pac. I'm sorry. Kind of racist. No, it has nothing to do with him being black. It strictly has to do with the fact that he has been very, very quiet.
Starting point is 02:11:41 And he's also said two times, I'll eat that cake. Yeah, yeah. And Zito stopped me early. Zito stopped him early. You fingered that cake back? No, I did not. Was it a knife or a spoon or something? Maybe you spooned
Starting point is 02:11:56 out a little bit of icing. You could do that. Yeah, or just, you know, slice. I mean, you did it, huh? That's awesome. What did you think? You think nobody would see me finger this cake? Is that what you think? I would tell you if I did, I didn't do it. Oh, we were already at the point where you did it.
Starting point is 02:12:11 You know what I mean? We were already at that. Did you enjoy it? Did it taste good? It tasted all right. Yeah. Good idea. Good idea.
Starting point is 02:12:18 All right. So it's packed and fingered the cake. All right. Hey, good on us. We got it. Good on us. We didn't think we were going to be able to figure it out. Sorry, Coach.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Was it your fingers? All right, let's see your dick, Pac-Man. All right, let's talk about some stuff happening in the NFL. I'm happy we got the ball in there. Me too. And big of Pac-Man to admit it. Boy, yeah. After.
Starting point is 02:12:43 Sorry, Bill. Sorry, Bill. Sorry, Bill. Sorry, Bill. Tech Joe. Sorry to all parties. But also, congratulations to you trying that cake. That cake was good? Yeah, pretty good. There's no chance.
Starting point is 02:12:59 You can eat all that stuff, too. Was it your fingers, Pat? Yeah, it was my fingers. Which ones? Did you go three, two? Two. Two. That's awesome. What a moment.
Starting point is 02:13:12 He definitely wasn't the one that peed in the bathroom, though, last year. He wasn't there. No, we knew who that was. Who was that? That was, I believe he runs a podcast network now. All right. Let's talk about other stuff. Who was that?
Starting point is 02:13:24 Yeah, real big head. He's big brain. Big brain.'s talk about other stuff. Who is that? Yeah, real big head. He's big brain. Big brain, big brain. There's some stuff going on down in Miami. Tua Tongvaloa is responding to Ryan Clark, who seemingly said that Tua was out of shape. We're going to leave
Starting point is 02:13:38 the entire question in that Tua received so that you get the full context of this. Love the sauce from Tua Tongvaloa to Ryan Clark. Love the way he chose to answer it. And I think this is a thing, if you're a Miami Dolphins fan, you're like, yeah, finally this guy seemingly standing up for himself after everything that's been taking place.
Starting point is 02:13:57 Here's Tua and a reporter asking and chatting about Ryan Clark saying he's out of shape pretty much. Sorry. asking and chatting about Ryan Clark saying he's out of shape pretty much. Sorry, I thought you were saying something else. He had some criticism about you, saying that you didn't hit the gym in the offseason, you didn't follow nutritionist advice.
Starting point is 02:14:20 If he were here, what would you say to him? He probably knows more about me than I know about myself. I don't know. Ryan's been out in the league for some time. I don't know. It's a little weird when other people are talking about other people when they're not that person. It's just a little weird. I come back.
Starting point is 02:14:42 My background is I come from a Samoan family. Like, respect is everything. But, you know, it does get to a point where, hey, you know, a little easy on that, buddy, because, you know, I think we're pretty tough-minded people. And if we need to get scrappy, we can get scrappy, too. Just saying. I love that. So, listenppy, we can get scrappy, too. Just saying. I love that.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Listen, I'm trying to be respectful, okay? I'm supposed to be respectful. This is how this whole thing goes. He's on TV. It doesn't bother me. But also, hey, bub, enough with the muff. You know? And, too, let's talk about the jujitsu and everything like that.
Starting point is 02:15:18 I do wonder what Ryan Clark was getting at with the nutritionist. He probably has some sort of inside information. But I like the sauce from Tua there in response. I loved everything about it. AJ, your thoughts? Yeah, I like it too. I mean, you could tell Tua is very measured, calculated in what he wants to say. He wants to say a lot more, obviously, but he's smart enough not to.
Starting point is 02:15:40 But Ryan Clark was attacking his off-season workouts and his nutrition. I don't understand that. How do you know exactly what he was doing? Yeah, well, that's what Tua said. It's kind of weird. He said it's kind of weird somebody talking about it. Now, that's our business. We do a lot of that about a lot of people.
Starting point is 02:15:52 But I feel like he probably thought he was being personally attacked by Ryan Clark there. So getting an opportunity to kind of chit-chat, saying, Hey, you don't know me, Oos. You don't know me at all. And I respect it. I appreciate it. Ryan Clark, though, has now
Starting point is 02:16:06 been in the headlines for, you know, a couple different things that have been said about a couple different players. And I think as you climb the ranks of sports media, more people are going to hear what you're going to say. So there's going to be more of a reaction. But here's a couple of times in a couple weeks where people are getting I think genuinely upset at Ryan Clark for what he's saying. I did not expect this,
Starting point is 02:16:22 but I did appreciate how Tua responded. Yeah, and he got to realize that he's been in the locker room before, too. So a lot of things that he say, I don't think he realized that the players are still thinking, like, hey, bro,
Starting point is 02:16:36 you've been in the locker room. Like, certain things, if you do have an opinion, you can critique the game, but don't critique me as a person. So I don't know. It's interesting. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:16:44 But Tua told his ass, hey, we can get busy however you want to. I don't know. It's interesting. Interesting, but to his old ass, we can get busy however you want to get busy. That was exactly what he said. It was a weird shot to take. He said he was happy, he got a full sleeve tattoo, and he was out of shape. Sleeve does look sick, by the way. Yeah, it's awesome. I kind of wish I was
Starting point is 02:16:59 Polynesian so I could just get that tattoo and get on with it because it looks so cool every single time I see somebody who has it. Roman has a sick one. Jey Uso's got one. Obviously, The Rock has one. Manti Teo. Manti Teo has a sick one.
Starting point is 02:17:13 Momoa, I believe, has one. Tua has a sick. That thing's thick, too. That's a lot of hours. That's a lot of ink. And for someone who took three jiu-jitsu classes and then did five-eighths of an arm sleeve, you do for a little bit after that, you know, get a little spicy.
Starting point is 02:17:30 It wears off. I don't want to fuck with that guy. So NFL Retweet, who is another one of these NFL accounts, and Via ML Football, which is Via NFL Live, which I think is what everybody's problem is, this isn't Via ML Football. This is Via NFL Live on ESPN. ML Football might have been
Starting point is 02:17:46 the first thing. And kind of put it up there, which we respect. We appreciate that. But this is kind of in a nutshell what everybody hates about these particular group of ex-accounts. Yeah, spot on. Exactly. He said, quote, he's built like a girl working
Starting point is 02:18:00 Annex? What? In Atlanta. What's Annex? I don't know what that means. What's Annex? What? In Atlanta. What's that? Pac, what's that mean? I don't know what that means. It's annex. I was told we wouldn't. Dan knows what it means. She's thick?
Starting point is 02:18:11 Is that a strip club? I've never been to annex. You wouldn't know the strip clubs in Atlanta anyways. I would know every last one of them. No, you wouldn't. No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't. Actually, mayor of all these.
Starting point is 02:18:23 He says that he's thick or whatever he he didn't spend enough time in the gym or with the nutritionists this offseason it's like i appreciate that being said by ryan clark because i think this is just like what people were saying about like luca too right remember in the in the nba world it's like yeah this guy has the the possibility to be the guy but also it feels like he's not doing everything that all the other guys are doing. So that's probably what Ryan Clark was trying to say in a funny Ryan Clark way. But Tua heard it and was like,
Starting point is 02:18:52 this motherfucker, I've been rolling jujitsu ever again. You don't think I'm exhausted, bro? I'm in the best shape of my life right now. The shirt did look better on him. It did, 100%. The tat looks sweet. Sick.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Now granted, if he's not able to move or something looks different than maybe it did last year, I think Tua says warranted. But right now, pal, hey, watch your mouth. Yeah. He's also too skinny before, too, right? He was called too small for fucking years as well. That's probably why he was getting his ass banged around.
Starting point is 02:19:19 In this offseason, he done put on some weight for the better. I don't think it's for the worse. From my understanding, everything coming out of Miami, he look good at practice. That's Onyx, by the way. I think it's spelled probably. Onyx. They spelled it wrong. O-N-I-X?
Starting point is 02:19:32 It's O-N-X-Y. These fucking accounts. X-Y or Y-X? Y-X. O-N-Y-X. Y-X. Yeah, okay. So, obviously, you weren't able to hear.
Starting point is 02:19:39 How is it? Pretty good spot. Oh, Onyx is a spot. It is. Nice place. Yeah, good chicken wings great chicken wings great chicken not good as magic but it's pretty good magic kind of got kicked out of the nba those lemons yeah yeah yeah yeah lou will had to get those wings yeah now he has his own
Starting point is 02:19:59 wing named after him the lou will donner yeah love that there's onyx an executive gentleman's club obviously people going in there having a good time couple adult ballets doing their thing and you know i guess two has the body of a stripper okay all right so he's kind of nimble can move around a little bit might help him out this year not all of them i'll tell you what not all of them okay beautiful well no honest all of them can move. Yeah, his movement. Onyx is pretty solid. Yeah, the choir building. It's not one of the ones where they can't move. I haven't been to an adult ballet in a long time.
Starting point is 02:20:30 I haven't been in a long, long time. Yeah. There's some real talent out there, though. Oh, yeah. If I do recall, there's been some shows that I've seen happen in front of me where I'm like, God damn, I don't know. I mean, you're doing this like 3.30 a.m. right now. There's like 15 people in here. This is't know. I mean, you're doing this like 3.30 a.m. right now. There's like 15 people in here.
Starting point is 02:20:45 This is real talent. I appreciate what you're doing. And then there's some ladies who say, oh, he's the only white guy in here. Let me go ahead and assault him. Make this fun. Yeah, and that's, you know, so we all have different experiences,
Starting point is 02:20:57 but Onyx sounds like a great one, and Tua seemingly would get all the money thrown his way. A little thick, but he needs to be protected. Ryan Clark, though, this is two weeks now where he's got himself into it. I don't think Ryan Clark cares. No, not at all. He's built for it. Ryan Clark also said, you want to get down, we can get down.
Starting point is 02:21:12 I mean, I think Ryan Clark is not backing down from a fight from anybody. Now, he needs to remember, though, that Tua's been working on that. Exactly. You know what I mean? The arm breaking. Right. Arm, leg, and dick. Von Meeler is back in the AFC East.
Starting point is 02:21:25 How you doing? Trying to get a sack. Tua says, this is for you. Bang. This is for Ryan Clark. Right. Arm, leg, and dig dot. Von Meeler is back in the AFC East. How you doing? Trying to get a sack. Tua says, this is for you. Bang. This is for Ryan Clark. Bang. And then he's going to throw the ball and probably do a sit-up. Now, we have some updates out of San Francisco in the quarterback room.
Starting point is 02:21:35 Tom Pellicero, the 49ers are naming Sam Darnold as their number two quarterback. And the team is exploring options with Trey Lance. Sources tell the Arrow, Pellicero, and Ian Rappaport. Darnold will be back up to Brock Purdy, while the future of Lance, the number three overall pick, is unclear. Michael Lombardi said this two weeks ago. Now Schefter came on and said they're still not clear. Lombardi might have just been projecting his own thoughts
Starting point is 02:21:56 as opposed to John Lynch's and Shanahan's. Are we looking at maybe a trade here of Trey Lance? If they cut him, he's on the open market. Will somebody sign him? Who will sign him? What does the future look like? This is rather notable news out of San Francisco, especially because of how big that
Starting point is 02:22:12 move was to get up to number three to take Trey Lance. And now here we are a few years later. Brock Purdy, the last pick of the draft's the guy. Trey Lance seemingly not there yet. Lombardi said from the crib, which TBD. TBD, I guess.
Starting point is 02:22:27 But congrats to Sam Donald, number two quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. And good luck to Trey Lance whatever happens next. Nobody's trading, right? Nobody's going to make a trade for Trey Lance?
Starting point is 02:22:35 They'll try. They'll definitely try. I mean, obviously, you want to try to trade somebody before you would release him. But if there's no trade partners, will they keep him around, you think?
Starting point is 02:22:44 I think if they're going to designate him that third spot, I think they have to. But his contract is still guaranteed because he's still on his rookie contract. So does the new team pick it up? If they trade him, the new team will pick it up, but if they cut him, they still owe him, obviously? Number three overall, that's probably big. Yeah, good money.
Starting point is 02:23:03 The third quarterback rule is huge here, too, with what happened to the Niners last year. Like, they need to have another quarterback available. So what do they do? Do they have to cut him, though, to get him to a third spot? He can be on the practice squad, can't he? Yeah, but to get him on the practice squad, he's got to get cut. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:16 So if he gets cut, then he's got to clear away from anybody. 24 hours, yeah. Someone will grab him, though. They knew that. Well, and there's a lot of former Niners that are now head coaches now coaches now like it'll be interesting to see if the Texans with D'Amico or even the Dolphins with McDaniel I mean even the Jets with Sala like if those teams pass on them like coaches that were in the building especially defensive coaches that have seen a lot of him then that would say a lot about what you know his status is in the NFL congrats to Sam
Starting point is 02:23:43 Darnold though yeah. Yeah, unbelievable. And Trey Lance, maybe if he goes somewhere else, he'll fall into a situation that'll hopefully take advantage of everything he's good at. Yeah. Not that the Shanahan offense doesn't seem to be the perfect thing. He needs reps. He needs reps. Where are those coming from, the XFL?
Starting point is 02:24:02 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. He hasn't played much football. It's talked about all the time, and it's true. They knew that, though, when they drafted him. Yeah. So this would be a colossal miss. I wonder how it's gone.
Starting point is 02:24:13 Yeah, I wonder how it's gone from when he got there until now. How big of a leap has he made? Is this the biggest miss in the history of the draft? Got to be, because they traded up. Yeah, there's been bigger misses, but not from teams. Did the Raiders trade up? No. For the amount that they gave up.
Starting point is 02:24:31 I don't want to live in the moment because we're part of the problem. Right here, in the moment. They say patience is a virtue. But then they also say live as if you're going to die tomorrow. Exactly. You could maybe argue
Starting point is 02:24:46 triple sticks, but they at least got a playoff game out of him. Yeah, and he was rookie of the year. Overlucked somehow, which I will still debate till the death of me, but I thought he was a great football player over there in Washington. Had success. Got injured more
Starting point is 02:25:01 so than just didn't play. Very true. In the building now, looking back on it. Was anybody going to have success? Yeah. That is something. Ryan Leaf, I guess, right? Yeah. They consider him.
Starting point is 02:25:12 Who's that offensive lineman? Tony Mandrich. But although they were just drafted. He came back and played for the Colts for a while. He had a decent career. Yeah. I met him in the locker room. He lives in Arizona now, I think. We were playing the Cardinals. Huge. Somebody showed up in a decent career. I met him in the locker room. He lives in Arizona now, I think.
Starting point is 02:25:26 We were playing the Cardinals. Somebody showed up in a leather jacket, fucking gigantic, and just walking through the locker room. I'm like, what is that? And they said, that's Tony whatever. I remember him from the magazine, right? Yeah. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
Starting point is 02:25:40 Yeah, big dog. Huge. Was he Michigan State? Great handshake. Yeah, Michigan State. Yeah, he was. Charles Rogers, another bust. Michigan State guy Great handshake. Yeah, Michigan State. Yeah, he was. Charles Rogers, another bust. Michigan State guy.
Starting point is 02:25:47 Achilles Smith, baby. Todd Marinovich. So this is the biggest miss in the history of the draft. That's crazy. Because they traded up. Yeah, because it was three first-round picks, right? Pretty much, yeah. Quarterback, yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:00 All right, it's all right. Good luck out there, Trey. Still got a chance. Yeah, well, if Fields and Mack, too. If Mack has a good year and the Bears are good, then it's going to be even bigger. Let's go to the phones here. Let's go to Will in Syracuse, New York. What's going on, Will?
Starting point is 02:26:13 What's up, Pat? What's up, Will? How you guys doing? We're good, Will. How are you? Hey. Hey. Not bad.
Starting point is 02:26:20 Been on the phone for like an hour and a half now, but it's cool. All right, thank you, Will. Let's go to Justin in Ohio. What's going on, Justin? Hey, how we doing, boys? Keep it moving. Justin, what's going on? I just want to talk about this Bengals defense.
Starting point is 02:26:36 Hey, hey, hey. Lou Ann Rimo had them boys buzzing with a steady lineup for a couple years. Now we got a couple newcomers and some rookies. You guys were talking about how long it took the O-line to start gelling, trying to get the opinion on how long a secondary will take. What do you think? You like them? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:58 I got faith in Lou Anaruma. Yeah, I think we all do. You think the Bengals win the Super Bowl this year? You think the Bengals win the Super Bowl this year? I hope so. We got a lot of contracts coming up. This is the year to do it. Hell yeah, Justin. In the middle of working, by the way. Some people are going to say, Pat, why'd you hang up on
Starting point is 02:27:13 that guy? We've been on the fucking microphone for an hour and a half too, pal. Yeah. We've all been here. Sorry that a time to go to the phones has not arose, but also, we're going to you right now because for the first time in a while, we need you. Bring it. So don't be making me feel bad, okay?
Starting point is 02:27:31 I don't like that. Because I do have a conscience. Mitt, clear all the phones every 20 minutes. You know what I mean? That's what we need. This is what we remember we had to do. Oh, yeah. It was every half hour before.
Starting point is 02:27:43 Yeah, clear it. Clear it every 30 minutes. Not right now. Let's keep these fine people on. But we apologize, bub. Yeah, sorry. But we didn't force you to call in or sit on the phone. No, not at all. That guy would have been a good call, too, I think.
Starting point is 02:27:56 I think he would have been a good call. Maybe. I think so. Do you? I think that's why he was like, you guys made me wait an hour and a half. Wait till you hear it. You're going to be pissed. You're going to fire. About what I just said. You're going to regret making me wait. That's what he's thinking. That's what he is thinking. It's like, alright, I apologize for that,
Starting point is 02:28:11 but you don't need to tell me all that. Just get right into it. Then we'll say, hey, sorry. We should have made that guy wait. We should have went to the phones a lot earlier. Yeah, regret making him wait. Send him the hotline. Send him the hotline number.
Starting point is 02:28:20 You're right. A little backdoor. Come on in. You know what I mean? Maybe he can finger a cake or two. Pack? Pack wants to eat that, though. You guys took it from him. He has hair in his
Starting point is 02:28:32 trap. He can grab it out of the doorway. You can use your fingers to get to the middle of it. Yeah, it's kind of like the strap hair. Yeah, like Gumpy's hair. He's kind of got to get through it. What if someone would have dragged their shaft and balls across that, honestly? And they thought it was funny, though. They did it as a joke. Hey, come on, guys. It's all fun. And that's a good What if someone would have dragged their shaft and balls across that? Honestly. And they thought it was funny, though.
Starting point is 02:28:47 They did it as a joke. Like, hey, come on, guys. It's all fun. And that's a good prank. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I would have looked at it that way, I think.
Starting point is 02:28:57 It would have been better if the person did it than served everyone the cake. Oh. Don't do that. That's rude. That's a prank. That's rude. You can't do that. That is assault, brother.
Starting point is 02:29:06 Yeah, that's a crime, crime probably Which I would never do Let's go to the phones Let's go to Antonio in New Mexico Not Old Mexico What's going on Antonio What's up boys How's it doing Keep it moving
Starting point is 02:29:16 Shout out to Bobo Gambino That's awesome man That's all I gotta say He was gone for too long. Too long. And it's just good to have his presence back on the show. Not a lot of people know who he is. He's been gone for so long.
Starting point is 02:29:30 Whoa. Oh, man. Oh, thank you. A million views. You guys said it the other day. Pat said it the other day. Hey. Hey, he said it the other day.
Starting point is 02:29:37 You don't know. This is Bubba Campino. If you don't know. If you don't know. If you don't know. A lot of people have no fucking idea who this guy is. It's his American dream. It's the American dream.
Starting point is 02:29:47 It's on a fire. Right. I mean, the oldest country that he would have been from, too. Oh, he's from New Mexico. Yeah, I know. The old one. You're talking about old Mexico? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:56 Old Mexico right now. I've heard Cabo is a good spot to go. Where's that other place that people went to? Tulum. Tulum. Yeah, Bruce went. Riviera Maya. Oh, yeah. He was taking all his selfies.
Starting point is 02:30:06 They got all his photo places. Yeah. And then you, where'd you go? I went to Puerto Rico. And you ziplined over a jungle. That's right. We're a cultured team. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:16 We're a pretty cultured squad. Absolutely. I really do appreciate that about us. Anyways, Antonio, what do you want to talk about? Just how excited I am about the Chicago Bears this year, man. There hasn't been a year in a long time that we haven't picked up this much talent. I mean, there's a lot of talent. We got that.
Starting point is 02:30:32 They got like a third or fourth string quarterback back in. He's a dog. He needs to be our QB, too. Kick Nathan Peterman off the roster. Whoa. Did you see the ball that Peterman threw against the ball? Hey, hey, hey. Worst quarterback of all time, man.
Starting point is 02:30:44 Threw six interceptions. One half. I mean, come on. Tell me you've never watched worst quarterback of all time, man, through six interceptions. One half. I mean, come on. Tell me you've never watched football. That was in one half, Antonio. That was a great run. It literally got to the point where it's like, this guy can't throw another one.
Starting point is 02:30:55 And then McDermott was like, let him see, let him see. Find out. And they fucking threw him in the fire as a rookie. Well, then he became a part of a quarterback award name that isn't good. No. That's you. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:09 You just got Matt Antonio for doing something that you did much worse. I mean, he called him. I mean, this. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, is that a good ball? I'm not sure. On the move, too. What a throw.
Starting point is 02:31:21 10 years. I know a lot of bad quarterbacks who are in the league for 10 years. Are you kidding me? Fuck off. Oh, Orlovsky was in for 12 years. People don't say he was good, but. They're wrong, too. What a throw. I've been in the league for 10 years. I know a lot of bad quarterbacks are in the league for 10 years. Are you kidding me? Fuck off. Well, Orlovsky was in for 12 years. People don't say he was good, but. They're wrong, too. I agree.
Starting point is 02:31:30 He won two games, almost lost us. Almost won us out of Andrew Luck. Yeah. Because of how good Dan Orlovsky was. Take it. Do you see that shoulder video he posted? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:40 That was great. He's got to be moving those things. Dude, absolutely. You see how cool they look? Yeah. I need some of that for real. Me too. My shoulders are getting a little tight with the way you've been working on.
Starting point is 02:31:49 Yep. Loosen up a bit. Why didn't those come with the Hawkeyes? I don't know. I mean, maybe I'll put an order in. Do I have like a code like Dan or Dane and it gives me 20% off? I think you just got to click the link in his bio or whatever, you know. He played football for 12 years.
Starting point is 02:32:03 I played quarterback in the NFL for 12 years. I want to be very active still with the kids. I want to be active. Every day basis when it comes to working out, I love to play golf. I love to play catch with my kids. But I had some discomfort right here in my shoulder. I had some pain in my shoulder. Did I spend some time with chiropractors and therapists?
Starting point is 02:32:21 Yeah, of course. Was there some benefit? Yeah, but very temporary. Okay, so I want to introduce this product to you. This one's for the long haul. Again, this package, it's a great little case, isn't it? It's a great little case. Now inside of it, what are you going to find? Boom. You're going to see this device with this ball. And then there's three other balls. You're like, whoa, this is a lot of balls. It's Armstrong, like five of them. And then all of a sudden you're like, keep your arms straight and do 30 rotations with this
Starting point is 02:32:44 particular ball. Okay. Clockwise, obviously for those that don't know that's right. And then all of a sudden you're like, keep your arm straight and do 30 rotations with this particular ball. Okay, clockwise, obviously. For those that don't know, that's right. And then you go ahead and go counterclockwise. For those that don't know, that's left. You know, and then, which is a 45-degree angle. You see, we're getting into math now. Got to go this way here.
Starting point is 02:32:56 Oh. Clockwise. Anyways, I hope he sold a billion of these things. I'm sure he did. Did he invent this? Yeah. No, the guy who invented it actually sent me a message saying, go get you one of them Orlowski shoulder balls.
Starting point is 02:33:09 I said, damn right, need it. Looks like a ball gag. That's the problem with this show. This guy's trying to get better. He's been to chiropractors and therapists, and all of a sudden you've got to make a gray, 50 shades of gray joke at this guy. Is it stage two where you put the yellow ball in your mouth while you do it
Starting point is 02:33:27 and work on your neck and throat and shoulder joints? Yeah, why were there so many balls in the case? I'm tired of it. Good question. This guy's just trying to get better so he can play with his kids. Yeah. Ball gag would help, though. This goes in.
Starting point is 02:33:43 We're all getting the old ball gag shoulder thing okay sounds good please wait deal please come on was it meant to be i tried dan i tried i was gonna be 15 sales i don't know how many yeah the way he worded that x i've thrown so many touchdowns in the nfl that i hurt my shoulders or something like it and then everybody just started i thrown so many touchdowns in the NFL that I hurt my shoulders or something like that. And then everybody just started. I threw so many touchdowns in the NFL that I started to get shoulder pain. This product has helped immensely minimizing that pain I started to deal with.
Starting point is 02:34:14 If you have shoulder discomfort, you should 100% check out this product. Hashtag add. Hashtag shoulder relief. So using the hashtag add in the tweet or the post is basically a killer to any post. Yes. Scroll down here but legally don't you have to do that now or something they claim 3.4 million uh views on this thing boom on a commercial from dan orlovsky that's called that's called a home run so the hashtag ad thing was a big push there for a bit uh and i think there's certain companies that you
Starting point is 02:34:42 have to do it still certain buckets and everything like that but if they were to really start booze i had to sorry i do for booze for miller life yeah booze i think there's gambling you got to be able to you have to wreck it you have to you have to acknowledge that you are being paid to tweet what you're tweeting i don't think it has to be just hashtag ad anymore it's like you have to acknowledge and let people know that you're being paid to do what you do. I think is how it goes. Unless you're trying to scam people out of crypto. Yeah, dude. There's just so much shady shit out there.
Starting point is 02:35:11 That's why VeeFriends has been really nice. It's Gary Vee Mon. Yeah, it's refreshing. He went on some guy's Instagram Live the other day at a conference. Gave a speech. It was awesome. Really? It was about just being fucking better?
Starting point is 02:35:27 What do you do every morning, Convane? What do I do every morning? I think about what my parents or brothers or sisters or cousins or grandmothers getting shot in the face and I get after it. Yeah. That motivates you? Yep. What just happened?
Starting point is 02:35:42 Gary Vee gave me that advice. He said- That's out of context. You want a perspective bomb? Okay. Every morning in that advice. That's out of context. You want a perspective bomb? Okay. Every morning in the shower. That's out of context. Think about somebody you love.
Starting point is 02:35:50 Okay, now think of them with a bullet in their head. Boom. Now go have a good day. And that's what I do every morning. Could be worse. I don't think you come in here a little moody. Sometimes it affects me. Like, damn, my mom just got shot in the head.
Starting point is 02:36:02 But it was just my imagination. That is perspective pigeon. That gives you that. Look how bummed that pigeon is. I know why, if that's what they're thinking every morning. No kidding. Well, it's because persuasive pigeon's been kind of getting after him, making him do weird shit.
Starting point is 02:36:13 Everybody wants to be a pleasant platypus. Yes. Just not everybody has the capability to be a poised pug. No? No, no. Or a perfect Persian cat. I mean, who can be perfect? Oh!
Starting point is 02:36:22 Whoa! Wandered from all angles, pal. Yeah, well, that seems like a three-headed thing, not so much an animal. What is polished poodle? Bro, the proactive piranha is a fucking killer in the Gary Vee Mon game. Yep. He could be the podcast panther, too. Everybody got one.
Starting point is 02:36:37 Yeah, part of the team dream. Hold the phone. I think I got a new favorite. Is he still hand-drawing? Yes. Incredible artist. Yeah. I mean, look at that. Look at the practical peacock. Yeah, you see the podcast
Starting point is 02:36:48 Panther? That looks like, holy shit. Does anyone know what the hell we're looking at? No. Yeah, brother. He's like Gary Vee-mon. Come on. It's awesome. I'm sure he's killing it, but man, I just, I'm trying to figure everything out. Do you not think the first 10 people
Starting point is 02:37:03 that looked at Pokemon were like, what? Yeah, you're right. Now it's multi-billion dollar. Now it's the hot shit hornet. I don't understand Pokemon either. That's what we're saying. You don't have to understand it for it to be a profitable business.
Starting point is 02:37:18 100%. Whatever the happy hermit crab and the honest honeybee. Whatever that is. And honorable horns. We got cuss words on there? Where, where, where? Hot shit.
Starting point is 02:37:29 Hornet. Yeah. What are we doing? That one's a little spicy. Can I get a headstrong honeybee? That's a good one. Ooh, fearless fairy. I love that one.
Starting point is 02:37:41 Ooh, flexing fox. Five, five, five, five, five fan. Hey, the flexing Fox is pretty sick. Hell yeah. Where's the Aaron V-mon that he made? Oh, yeah, the accurate Aaron? Yeah. With that elbow?
Starting point is 02:37:53 Countable alienator. The adaptable alien is something. Yep. Always changing. Always pivoting. The alpha alligator from my generation. Generation alpha. Just like I've been saying this whole time.
Starting point is 02:38:05 That is the new generation. I am in it. I don't know if you guys are in it or not. But I'm excited that that is what a genre of humans is being named. I also identify as an Alpha generation. Oh, yeah? But I don't think you are, though. Has AJ deemed me Generation Alpha?
Starting point is 02:38:23 AJ's a lot. Is he the Alpha generator? He's the gatekeeper. He is Generation Alpha as well. I had a guy tell me that I am the gatekeeper for the Alpha generation. Am I? Am I part of it? No, actually.
Starting point is 02:38:34 I don't think you are. 2013, 2025. These guys got the great name. They do. Generation Alpha? That's sweet. Yeah, because they're going to bring it back because Gen Z ruined everything. Well, people say millennials are the reason Gen Z ruined everything
Starting point is 02:38:46 because we're the ones kind of in charge. But really, I'd say Gen X, this is on you guys. And then some people would say baby boomers. And then some people would say greatest Gen. You mean racist Gen? That's what a lot of people say on the internet. Yeah, I think a lot of these Gens down here at the bottom, there's probably a lot of things that they did not do that would be copacetic in 2020.
Starting point is 02:39:06 Absolutely. But if it wasn't for the greatest gen, we'd be Heil and Hitler. Bingo. Still, you think? Yeah. We'd be speaking German or Japanese. Pick.
Starting point is 02:39:17 They wouldn't be living in Argentina, I can tell you that. Yep. Who's that? Who's living in Argentina? You heard him. Hitler's guys. Yeah. All right. That's a report on the internet, it sounds You heard him? Hitler's guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:25 All right. That's a report on the internet, it sounds like. Yep. Oh, no. The Nazis fled to Argentina. That has been, yeah. Tim Kenney's been hunting different Nazis. You ever see?
Starting point is 02:39:33 He's got a TV show. Who? Rivermore? Tim Kenney, fighter, Green Bay Army Ranger, like special forces guy, UFC fighter. He doesn't fight anymore, but yeah, he's a big personality. Is this a real deal? He's going out there hunting like he's- He's hunting nine-year-old men? Like John Leguizamo? Yeah, he is. He had a show
Starting point is 02:39:50 on the History Channel or something where he was hunting Nazis, I think it was called. Sneaking up behind him. Was this like a Bigfoot hunt thing? Like it never actually comes to fruition? No, I think he found some. I think he'd find some guys hiding out that were part of it. So would he go in with Leland with the paintball gun, like Dog the Bounty Hunter, or what would he do?
Starting point is 02:40:06 I don't think Tim's carrying many paintball guns. He seems to be strapped every time he's around. Yeah, it sounds like this guy's a sneak up behind you, stab you in the back of the neck. Could have been scalps. The country became a refuge for about a thousand Nazi leaders after the end of the Second World War. Roughly 1% of the population in Argentina
Starting point is 02:40:21 speaks German. Wow. And those are just the leaders. They're not saying like the common Nazi soldiers. Thanks a lot, Messi. I don't think they're Latin. Soldiers. Yeah, they weren't executing them like they were, or excuse me, they weren't bringing them back to America like they were with some of the other people, but still, I think a lot of
Starting point is 02:40:38 them fled down there. History. Well, they won a World Cup, Argentina. They did. How many of those guys were German, I wonder? Well, Matthew wasn't. That's true. Germany won it before that. Schweinsteiger, we all know what his grandfather did.
Starting point is 02:40:54 Name like that. See? With a name like that. This guy's last name's Hawk. What do you think of a name like that? Yeah. Eat necks and jaws. We're on the right side of history. The Hawks. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:07 I believe. I believe. What about Tim Allen? I learned about him the other day. Oh, yeah. Tim Dick. Oh, Tim. Snitch son of a bitch.
Starting point is 02:41:16 Good sound. That's what basically the article said. Big time snitch. I know that. Oh, yeah. They just kind of dropped it. You know, Tim is also known as Tim Dick. He used to do this. Oh, yeah. They just kind of dropped in there. You know, Tim is also known as Tim Dick. He used to do this.
Starting point is 02:41:25 He sold drugs. He was caught with 650 grams of cocaine in a plane. And then they just stick in there. Tim would go on a tell-all on everybody that was basically around him. He'd get out of jail and go on to become very successful Tim Allen. Whoa, whoa, just snuck a line in there. Yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 02:41:39 He still served two years for him. Almost two and a half years. He still served a little bit. But, yeah, obviously, this is why I think he doesn't like people bringing it up. He doesn't ever talk about it because he knows he did snitch. Yeah, you don't say. A guy doesn't want to be reminded he's a fucking rat. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 02:41:55 I'm saying normally he could own this and he'd have a cult following, but not when you snitched. How about white boy Rick? Oh, man. How long was he in jail for? He just got out, right? What, 40? Yeah, man. How long was he in jail for? He just got out, right? What, 40? Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:42:07 Hey, it seems like Michigan up there takes these drug charges real serious. Yeah, I guess so. Real serious. I respect it. Hey, get it out of the mitten. Get it out of the mitten. Get it out. 27 years in prison.
Starting point is 02:42:19 He was an FBI informant, allegedly. Now, he says that's not the case, right? I assume he's saying that I'm not a snitch. Yeah. And what is the criminal penalty, 27 years in prison, five years consecutive? Pretty much everybody, from what I've watched in law stuff. Yep.
Starting point is 02:42:34 I mean, everybody says they're not going to snitch, and then, hey, you want to do 40 years in jail or a year in jail? It's not like he's friends with them. No, he's friends with the other drug dealers. Well, when you put it that way, is there 365 days in these years you're talking about? Yeah. I got to do one of them or?
Starting point is 02:42:47 Okay. And I'll save the world with tool time? Yeah. I will say. Yep. When I got in trouble, they asked me who I was out with. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:42:55 Not in name. Never remembered. I was alone. Mm-hmm. Or were they trying to arrest him? No, it was Bill Pullian. I was like, who are you with? I didn't know you.
Starting point is 02:43:03 Oh, kind of like a Rich Rod situation. Yeah. Yeah. I was alone. Classic coach situation. Just going out. You went out all by yourself? Yeah. Yeah, I have a problem, obviously.
Starting point is 02:43:11 More fun than you do it. So, sorry about it. Ah! Oh! Go on, Beal. Get that ball, Beal. There's an all-in, Bill. You don't have to. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:32 Today's not the day. Let's get the fuck out of here. Tough shot. Today's been a tough day. Today's been a tough day. Yeah, football was. The low leader shot went in. Yep.
Starting point is 02:43:40 Boys, we got to tighten up before September 7th. Yep. Okay, I'm talking about everybody. The vibes, the drug talk The smart people talk No showing dicks It's kind of like Get It Out now Get Out
Starting point is 02:43:53 That won an award, right? I don't think so, actually No, I think it did, yeah I just learned what the story I didn't watch it So they were taking people's souls. Yeah. Taking them.
Starting point is 02:44:07 Putting old whites in. Yes. Kidnapping black people. Then basically putting them into a deep state. Hypnotizing them. Basically lobotomizing them. Like, what's that Leonardo DiCaprio one? Shutter Island.
Starting point is 02:44:24 No, where he's stealing drinks. Inception. Oh, Inception. They put him in one of those where they put him out. The way they visualize it is the person whose real body it is, they're sunk back into the brain so they can see out of the eyes, but the person controlling is the elderly white person that is now taking over their body so they can continue to live.
Starting point is 02:44:42 So this is a movie that I would never be able to get. Sounds like there's a lot going on. If you watch it, it's really not that complicated. I've tried my best on some of these movies that are super sophisticated, and I just can't get into it. What was that one I hated? Christopher Nolan, the other movie? Oh, Tenet?
Starting point is 02:44:56 Yeah. What are we doing? Just make a fucking movie, dude. You know what I mean? Just tell a story. I told you, Tenet is impossible to understand what's going on. I've seen it 10 times. It's pretty.
Starting point is 02:45:05 I love it, but I have no idea what to make of it or what it's trying to say. Interstellar. Oh! Watch Interstellar. Boom. Got to watch Interstellar. You should. All right, let's get out of here.
Starting point is 02:45:19 We'll be back tomorrow. That's a good one. Sorry, but I was locked into my zone here. You were. I was talking about it. You weren't blacked out. You were locked into your zone. Yeah, you're right. Don't get good. Let's get out of here. was locked into my zone here. You were. You weren't blacked out. You were locked into your zone. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 02:45:26 Don't get green. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. All right. We will. See, that was maturity. That's right. We will see you guys tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:45:34 Big time show. A lot of guests. A lot of conversations. More stuff. We are just. 15 days. And these are going to be the longest. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:41 Because we're so close and there ain't shit coming. No freezing games. But we got college football, though, coming up. Week zero, baby. Notre Dame Navy in Ireland. Yes, on Saturday. This weekend. Let's go. New quarterback for Notre Dame, Sam Hartman. That's right.
Starting point is 02:45:57 We got a real good game actually this weekend. Is it LSU? That's next weekend. Is that USC playing? Yeah. Yeah. 30 and a half point favorites. They're playing San Diego State.
Starting point is 02:46:09 Ohio and San Diego State should be a good one. Let's go. Let's go. Jacksonville State playing? The Minutemen? Yes, they are. Okay. If Jacksonville State's playing, they're winning.
Starting point is 02:46:19 That's actually a conference game, too, now for them. Yeah, so Jacksonville State has been bumped up. They got Rich Rodriguez as a coach. They're going to win. Okay. Just know they are going to win this. So I like them plus one and a half for them. Yeah, so Jacksonville State has been bumped up. They got Rich Rodriguez as a coach. They're going to win. Okay. Just know they are going to win this. So I like them plus one and a half for sure. UTEP was legit last year, weren't they? Last year or two years ago.
Starting point is 02:46:34 Two years ago maybe, more. Some people would have them. San Antonio, UTSA. The meet and meet. I think. Some people have UTEP winning that conference. They don't know. They don't know where Rich Rodriguez is. I mean, we just haven't. Those boys do.
Starting point is 02:46:48 Talked about it for 20 minutes. I don't know. I'm betting on that team that is. Me too. They've been running their asses off down there. I don't know how hot it is. Rich don't care either. Jacksonville.
Starting point is 02:47:00 They are going to be in shape. That team's going to be tough in shape. They might not know where they're going, but that team's going to go really fast. Wherever the hell they're going, I'm assuming they get a big-time win. I heard you say Jacksonville. Fun fact. It's actually in Alabama. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:13 Really? Yeah. Oh. Interesting. That's your geography. That's like Pittsburgh State or whatever. Yeah. Not in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 02:47:19 It's in Kansas. What the hell? That doesn't make sense. Wait, isn't it Jackson State? No. No, it's Mississippi. That's in Mississippi. That's HBCU.
Starting point is 02:47:29 Yeah. I was down there for the Battle of the Games. Yeah, you were there. Game day was there. Yeah, it was awesome. Great environment. Rain, cold, they were there in that parking lot all goddamn day. That's sweet.
Starting point is 02:47:39 I appreciate them. Respect. I actually thought a couple different times. These people should leave. Last year, I've thought about that. College game day crowds are so awesome. They are the greatest crowds, I think, out of any people that have crowds. They are there.
Starting point is 02:47:57 Are you getting anything from this? A show, but most importantly, you're putting on for your school. That is kind of like how they feel we are representing for our school here for our football team for our culture and i just want to let all of them know we appreciate the fucking hell out of it it is a blast to get a chance to do that show and on friday september 8th we will be live this show in tuscaloosa alabama hell yeah i can't wait for that. Should be a pretty good vibe.
Starting point is 02:48:27 Now, if game day is going there on Saturday, which we do not know, we have not made that decision, although Texas, Alabama is happening on Saturday night where we will be doing a simulcast of that game live from the field, which is why we're doing the show there on Friday. Get the whole team down there early
Starting point is 02:48:40 because we've got some stuff we've got to run through tech-wise. So we're lucky to do that. If game day is there on Saturday, I do believe our show will be live from the game day set. So it should be in a pretty good spot. Now I don't know if game day is going to be there, but I believe that is a thought and then there's a lot of people asking where we're
Starting point is 02:48:56 going to be. I don't know, but it is getting figured out right now as we speak. That is going to be electrifying. So fun. Got a couple surprises. I like that. Got a couple surprises. I like that. Got a couple surprises. You know, let's pull on a show.
Starting point is 02:49:09 Yeah. I agree. Because there's going to be a football game that happens the night before. Kansas City Chiefs and Detroit Lions are playing. Yeah. So we're obviously going to have to react to that, chat about that, break that down. There's a weekend of football on the horizon.
Starting point is 02:49:22 There's the first NFL Sunday on the horizon. And then we're going to be live in front of 10 people maybe, 20 people maybe. Who knows how many people are going to be there. We got some surprise guests coming through that are pretty notable. Pretty notable in those parts. I think so. I don't want to throw it. Let's get out of here. We'll be back tomorrow.
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