The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 964 - Josh Allen, The General Bob Carpenter's Top 5, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

On today's show, Pat, Pacman, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the final rosters coming together, Hard Knocks last night and Aaron Rodgers taking shots at his offense, the Packers being the other myst...ery team involved in a potential Jonathan Taylor trade, and more. Joining the progrum is All-Pro, 2x Pro Bowler, one of the best QB's in the NFL, the cover athlete of Madden 24, Quarterback of the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen to chat about how training camp was, guys being compared to him who come into the league now, his thoughts on the offense, getting his mechanics digitally mapped, the expectations for the Bills this year, and much more (1:07-23:16). Later, former 1st round pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, Ohio State legend, the man who saved college football, The General Bob Carpenter joins the show to give his inaugural top 5 in college football, which he will be giving us every week this year (2:00:19-2:26:33). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this glorious Buffalo Beale Wednesday, August 30th, 2023. This program starts right now. Football! It's almost happening. College football is already off and running. This weekend is going to be electrifying for college teams across the country. The NFL is currently in the middle of like a purgatory. Yeah. Okay, the preseason's over. Cut day was just yesterday.
Starting point is 00:00:25 We'll have full reaction to all the shit that happened to all your teams. I do believe the big story was the PUP list. A lot of big-time names missing the first four weeks of the NFL, so the first three weeks of the NFL season. The Toxie Table's here. I have Boston Connor and I have Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer, done. Cowboys, Tony Diggs is here.
Starting point is 00:00:41 The other half of the Hammer, done. Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino is back from deportation in Canada. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You had a 10-year ban. You were deported. What'd you say? That ain't going to slow me down, lad.
Starting point is 00:00:52 No. We had to fight the immigration system a few different times. Do some politicking. Go ahead and talk about the UFOs, China, whatever you want to do. Let's go ahead and get our guy back. You're back. It's great to see you, Gumpy. This morning, you looked amazing.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Hell yeah. 14-year NFL icon Pac-Man Jones is here and joining us now live from Buffalo, New York. A man who is now the prototype of what everybody hopes that they draft for their quarterback. He's tall. He's fast. He's handsome. He's strapping. And although he's an all pro, he hasn't won a Super Bowl yet.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Not yet. Not yet. I think he's going to soon Ladies and gentlemen The animal, the stud, Josh Allen Thank you for joining us That was electric The whole didn't win a Super Bowl I don't know why my brain said that
Starting point is 00:01:39 That's fucked up It was so positive We're in a good time right now That's why I ended it with saying I think it's going to happen though how do we feel the team feels good everybody playing great how where are we right now what 10 days away from the nfl season starting for you guys yeah i mean feeling good like you said earlier purgatory cut day was yesterday that's always a sad time you know if you don't get in the locker room early enough there's some guys you
Starting point is 00:02:02 may you may never see again you know so'm just trying to be there for those guys, but at the same time, now we're turning our attention to Monday night against the New York football jets. Yeah. And that's going to be a massive game, obviously on September 11th in the shadows of New York city, Aaron Rogers, Josh Allen. Oh, you've been watching hard knocks, trying to get a little extra tape on them. Quentin Williams is good, Josh.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Yeah. They're, they're a-studded pack team right now. We understand that. I haven't watched any of the Hard Knocks. I haven't really been watching anything as of recently. I've been a little busy. Okay, thou art in the ball. So what is this week like for you guys? Are you guys back to work?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Have you just watched filming? Like yesterday, what did you do while the cuts were happening? Yeah, we came in. We worked out, watched a little bit of film, did a quick walkthrough at the end of the day. Today we got back on the practice field, kind of a training camp type schedule. We'll have meetings here in about 45 minutes. Same type of schedule today for tomorrow, and then we're off for three days,
Starting point is 00:02:57 and then we're in grind time. You look more fit right now. Is that an accurate reading or no? I appreciate that. Thank you. Okay. All right, good. Thanks, Ryan. Yeah. What have you been doing different? fit right now is that an accurate reading or no i appreciate that thank you okay all right good yeah what have you been doing different anything is off season dieting workout or just as you get
Starting point is 00:03:10 older here you're um just paying attention more to my body understanding what i can and can't intake um i'm i'm i'm a little old school if i want to lose some weight i just stop eating you know i fast a little bit and i think fasting is good for the mind, body, soul. I think that's something I'm diving into a little bit more as I get older. I think there's some key benefits to it, but I'm cold tubbing a little bit more now. Oh! Yeah, so we're trying to do all the right things, you know? Dude, you're an internet influencer all of a sudden, like in the fitness world.
Starting point is 00:03:40 You know what I mean? Calorie in, calorie out. Yeah. Got to keep one number lower than the other. Hop in a cold tub. Little Wim Hoffing, you know, doing that whole thing. I'm in a cold tub as well. Allegedly, I mean, I used to do it whenever I played
Starting point is 00:03:54 just because I thought it made my legs feel better after I kicked or whatever. But now everybody's doing it. It's supposed to be like a real benefit for your entire psyche, your body. I absolutely love it. I assume you're – have you always been a cold tub guy or just recently started hopping in there with Wim Hof?
Starting point is 00:04:09 I hated the cold tub, and I've been recently hopping in there. I go get the sauna for about 15 minutes, then I'll dunk in the cold tub for about five right after. So just trying to shock the body. Again, you know the benefits. I've seen all the TikToks talking about all the benefits about the cold tub. So we're trying it out. Every time I read them, I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah. Sure. Yeah. I have no idea what's going on. No idea. If you think it works, it works. Yeah, Placebos have been around a long time and have done their thing. So you're in better shape.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Obviously, we've got a team that we're ready to go on a run. Expectations for you are always going to be super bowl because of the team that you guys have built but it wasn't like that your first year you know and there's a lot of young quarterbacks now where everybody is hoping to make the jump that josh allen made you got a lot of people saying well if this guy is able to figure it out like josh allen was able to figure it out he's going to be special he's going to we can't judge him now what he's going to become do you hear those whispers and do you take it as a compliment to your hard work and what did you work on this past off season in your game you think that's going to showcase on monday night and throughout this season
Starting point is 00:05:11 yeah well i think uh it is a testament to kind of what we've done here in buffalo and the coaching staff and the front office believing and trusting in me and giving me enough opportunity to develop it and be the quarterback that I am today. And, again, it wasn't just me. There was a lot of people that were involved. There were a lot of hardships that I had to go through to understand, you know, the game of football and how I need to handle myself on and off the field. But, yeah, I think this offseason just working on, again, just my stroke and try to be as consistent as possible with my mechanics delivering the ball from the same um you know same spot every time and just trying to
Starting point is 00:05:50 try to work on completion percentage a little bit allow ourselves to stay out of third and long and be quicker with decision making so there's a lot that goes into it and every year you try to find something to improve on but you never really know until you get into real real live game reps yeah because you get out there and you start running your face into people and then you never really know until you get into real live game reps Yeah, because you get out there And you start running your face into people And then you start, you know, like As I'm recalling Because I was just about to ask about Dorsey's offense And was it the same as Daybowl's
Starting point is 00:06:14 How much has changed because another year in that offense Probably going to be a good thing with the Vets But then obviously my brain just went immediately to Oh, it's second and eight or something In the first quarter Does not matter, this play, in the long run. But fucking old buddy here. I need to run this guy directly over.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Like, that is what I need to do. And I think we've talked to Bean and McDermott, and they're like, we trust Josh. Josh plays however he wants to play. You're getting old now. Are those things going to change? And what does another year in Dorsey's offense look like? Yeah, in terms of if they're going to change,
Starting point is 00:06:48 I mean, I'm still going to play football the way I know how to play football. Yeah, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Being smart and not taking the unnecessary hits. And I think we've done a good job of that in the last couple years. And, you know, I'm not going to – I knock on wood, but I wouldn't even say it. I'm not even going to say it. I think you can – no, I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I've been playing the game for a long time now. I'm going in my sixth year now in the same system for the sixth year. Dorsey and I are on the same page. We understand each other. I'm really vibing with what he's calling it, how we're calling it, how we're getting to what we're getting to. I think our skill guys are in the same boat as me, just getting back to some of our more um simple concepts but
Starting point is 00:07:26 stuff that's super effective for us that we can kind of run in our sleep so um we're looking forward to getting out there i think our running game is going to be much improved this year and coach cromer's got got our offensive line in a good spot and they're they're communicating well so again monday night near jets we'll we'll figure. Yeah, but the first week, I mean, there's so much. Who knows? You know what I mean? Who knows how it's all going to go? We assume you're going to be great that opening night
Starting point is 00:07:52 all the way through the 17-game season. And one of your guys, was there ever a worry that Stefan Diggs was not going to be a Buffalo Beal there for a bit? Because I don't think we've talked to you since then. Never a worry? No, never a worry. Okay, that's good to hear because boy it was getting loud we're over here in indiana you know we were judging his instagram posts we're gonna judge his
Starting point is 00:08:09 instagram post because he said only showcasing his emotions how he knows how and he had shin guards on on one of the posts in that particular thing so we thought we thought maybe he was just taking it in the shin so bad he wanted to get out of there but stefan diggs and you are obviously one of the best duos in the entire nfl how has it been developing for another year with stefan digs and you are obviously one of the best duos in the entire nfl how has it been developing for another year with stefan digs and obviously that little bit of adversity you had we're very much past that what do you expect out of him this season yeah i mean i think you know between me and him our communications and all-time high um just understanding some of our concepts better making sure that we're talking and have an open line of communication.
Starting point is 00:08:45 He just voted the captain today. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. Oh! Hey, that's huge. That's a big deal. I mean, for everybody else, for us, there's no doubt. The energy and the juice that he's had this training camp and as we're going into the season, it's at an all-time high.
Starting point is 00:09:01 So I actually love playing with him. We're going to continue to grow and get better, and i think this is going to be our best year yet i really really believe that congrats on a seed digs go well deserved well earned but yeah i do think that is going to be a storyline i appreciate the way you said that like you know it might be news for you guys but not in here because how great your leadership is that is very cool to hear about stefan digs from where we were a couple months ago to where we are now. The Beals, huh? The Beals! Connor, who is obviously a Patriots
Starting point is 00:09:30 fan, has a question for you. Yeah, and as a Patriots fan, I just have to comment you first. Congratulations being on the cover of a Madden game that actually doesn't suck. It's the best Madden they've made in years. Good work. How do you feel when guys now who are coming into the league are compared to you? There's a lot of, oh, this guy's got a lot of Josh Allen in him.
Starting point is 00:09:46 This guy can be like a Josh Allen. Like right now it's Anthony Richardson. A few years ago, I guess two years ago, they were saying that about Trey Lance. Do you reach out to those guys? Is there any thought around that? And do you like it or is it kind of annoying when guys are compared to you when you're one of the better QBs in the entire league? No, man, I don't think it's annoying.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I got to see Anthony Richardson live this year. He's a specimen, man, physical freak. He can spin the ball. He threw an absolute dime against us. It was a corner route. It wasn't caught, but it was an absolute dime. But just talking right after the game, if there's anything that I can do to help you.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I'm all about pushing the game forward. If there's a question that he may have, like, reach out to me. Like, I talk to Trey Lance. We got the same agent, so me and Trey kind of have a nice little relationship. And obviously a new start for him there in Dallas. But, you know, I want to help people out, man. I don't think this is a time to hold things in because, again, I can help them out. And who knows, they might say something that might switch something in my mind and help people out, man. I don't think this is a time to hold things in because, again, I can help them out.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And who knows, they might say something that might switch something to my mind and help me out too. Anthony Richardson, hi. You're his mentor? That's good. I like that a lot. Definitely not his mentor. I think they're doing just fine in Indianapolis there.
Starting point is 00:11:01 No, no, no. Hey, Wolfie, you need to send the game to him, please. We're talking videos. I'm talking, no. Hey, Wolfie, listen. You need to send the game to him, please. We're talking videos. I'm talking like voice memos, you know, because sometimes some things get lost in transgression with just a text message. Oh, that's right. Patriots fan asked me the question,
Starting point is 00:11:13 but now Colts fan is paying attention to the question. Gotcha. Yeah, well, I'm always paying attention, you know, just want to see how the Colts can get better. I tried to trade for you a few times with Bean. Over the last couple of years, I don't know if you've heard that. Every time Bean's come on, I asked to trade for you. He said he'd trade himself before he'd trade Josh.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I thought I could be a good businessman. It never worked out. But now, we got... Got the mentor. This is good news. We appreciate that over here. And I do love the fact that the game is evolving. And obviously, that is the game. It's always going to do that. But moving,
Starting point is 00:11:44 playmaking, being able to throw is always going to be something you have to do. And I think that is kind of something that you developed so well, so quickly. Now, was it the addition of a weapon that can get open and make plays? Maybe. But that laser thing that we say, that was real, right? You did that one offseason? The what? You put like lasers on your fucking body or something like that didn't you
Starting point is 00:12:05 end up oh i got my yeah my my mechanics like digitally mapped through a guy named chris hess with biometric and it was all changed my life change your life it was awesome yeah anthony richardson's we just want to thank biometrics but no so i don't know if i can share this but anthony richardson has done it too with Chris Hess. Oh, my God. I got to see, like, Anthony Richardson's mechanics are, they're up there. I mean, they're at the top. They're fantastic.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Whoa. Like, him throwing the ball is very, it's a very pretty watch. And this is the thing right here, huh? Is this you exactly? I can't see the picture as well as enough. I don't know if that's you. But that changed your life. Was that one off season you decided to do this?
Starting point is 00:12:52 And then they gave you a little piece of information. It was a trigger and just fixed everything? Yep. And again, I would say it took some work to get there. But it just showed how inefficient that I was throwing the ball in my first year or two. And it was right after my second year, I did this tweaked a few things, tried to become more of a rotational thrower than a, than a linear thrower.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Right. That's still something that my body tries to revert back to sometimes of delivering the ball. And I feel like my arms straight down. So it's like, I got to sometimes tell myself to continue to be a rotational thrower. And you know, it's an up and down battle up and down battle sometimes, but I'm still working on it.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Dude, you could throw the shit out of a javelin. Oh, my God. Could you imagine? Far. What if it was lawn darts day? Could you imagine, like, during those things? Could you imagine Josh Allen with those lawn darts just fucking throwing the shit out?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Oh, my God. Could you have the strongest arm in the league still? I think so. I love it. Yeah. Those cold tubs, too. Maybe we'll keep going. Hackman's got a question for you, Josh.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Hey, Josh. I already have a star-studded cast over there. I see that Justin made the team, the young kid. How can he help and tell us a little bit about him? Talking about Shorter? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's a long-range guy. I think special teams, kind of a gunner that we see that can develop
Starting point is 00:14:13 into a really good player for us. I'm not sure if he's going to be good for us. Whoa! There's a little piece of information somewhere that we – are you involved in any of those conversations with Bean? You know, obviously we were a part of a big storyline a couple years ago with Aaron Rodgers when he was just asking to have a little bit of say on who he's throwing the ball to with the Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And at that stage, he was in his 15th year, I think, or like 14th year in the NFL. And when I was in Indianapolis Peyton you know like if yeah I mean he cut the punter he cut me if he I mean that is the say that he had and everybody's there are you having conversations with being about roster or anything like that or do you stay out of it yeah I'm definitely having conversations I don't know if he takes my input all that much um seriously but I feel like at least him coming and asking me about somebody, it makes me feel good. Back to Shorter, I think having him learn
Starting point is 00:15:09 from Gabe and Steph and some of the guys in the room, I think it's going to be really beneficial for him as time goes on. Yeah, but something was there. I'm excited to hear what we learned about this. There's going to be something that's going to come out the other side there. Ty has a question for you, Josh. Yeah, Josh, everyone knows how explosive you guys offense already was
Starting point is 00:15:27 and then you know you get dalton kincaid in the first round who i think a lot of people thought oh this guy might go top 15 he kind of slides down to you guys and everyone's thinking like oh this is bullshit the bills are just getting another guy who's who's gonna be unbelievable uh how's his progression been what's your kind of rapport with him been like? And are you potentially prepared to throw for like 7,500 yards this year? That'd be great. I'd love to throw for 7,500 yards. I'll go ahead and say that right away. The kid is very smart.
Starting point is 00:15:57 He doesn't play like a rookie. He's instinctive. He understands our offense very well. His body control is fantastic. His catch rate, like you can go on and on about the kid. He is a rookie. So, again, there's probably going to be some growing pains at some point throughout the season.
Starting point is 00:16:13 But we're not going to be afraid to play him right away. You know, I think him and Dawson on the field together, I think that's going to cause some headaches for some guys and defensive coordinators just because, again, like they both can run block good enough right where if you put sub on the field now our run game is going to have the opportunities and if you put or sorry yeah and if you go base our passing is going to have some good opportunities too so and then just getting those guys matched up with some linebackers and safeties um you know it's going to be it's going to be fun to see how we utilize both of
Starting point is 00:16:44 our guys are you guys making reads off what the defense is? Like, and obviously everybody that would play against you would know this. So there's some offenses that are very difficult to get in there. Like, I guess the Patriots offense was obviously we're looking at things. We all have to see the same picture. And then we're going Peyton's offense, same exact thing. We all got to see it. We're not talking to each other.
Starting point is 00:17:04 It just has to be kind of understood. Whenever you say like there's going to be some rookie things with Dalton, it's not like he forget to play or something like that. It's just potentially wouldn't make the same thing that you would make and it would just have to get through that. Can you elaborate a little bit about like a rookie mistake potentially in that as a weapon? Yeah, I just think just the NFL, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:22 it's going to be a little bit faster. Things are going to happen a little bit quicker in terms of reading defenses and understanding leverage and things like that. So I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but as long as we continue to communicate and navigate those problems, you know, the better that we're going to be. And I think, again, we're going to grow as the season goes on. And there's going to be a couple times where we might get tricked early
Starting point is 00:17:44 on the season, but later in the season we're going to have seen that look already and he's going to be able to see more defenses and understand what's going on and make a quicker read. Dude, I love the football intelligence conversations. I think NFL Films does a pretty good job of showcasing. I think they're even scared that nobody will understand this. But we always hear, like, Rookies are going to struggle a little bit,
Starting point is 00:18:04 but you don't know why. There's so much happening on an NFL fucking field. I don't even know. You big film guy, I assume you'd have to be. Everybody that's a quarterback in the NFL would have to be. Is that just your life during the season? I mean, there's
Starting point is 00:18:17 quite a bit of film, but I don't like to overindulge on film because I think that teams play us and our offense so differently than they do for most offenses. So I'd way rather understand who they are as a team, understand what they do regularly, and then go out there and react to what I see. Instead of seeing all the stars pressed over here, they're bringing two to that side, and all of a sudden I'm locked in knowing that they're going to do that, and they bring it from the other side. I'd way rather stick to our base rules, understand what we do best,
Starting point is 00:18:51 and then just go out there and be reactionary and figure it out on the go. Love everything about it. Tone has a question for you, Josh. Yeah, Josh. Week one, 9-11, against a division opponent. I don't know if there's a ton of motivation there. Are you going to use that Aaron Rodgers is the biggest sandbagger in the golf world as extra motivation on that Monday night?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Got that PGA hoodie on. Yeah, I think so. We've talked a little bit about it. I said, you can have all the golf stuff. I'm going to try to take care of the football stuff. Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:19:23 Oh! I freaking love Aaron. We go back and forth sometimes, man. And he's been, he's been awesome to me. It'll be fun playing against him twice a year now and not sure how long he's going to continue to play. I know he said a few more years, but it might be five, it might be 10. Who knows? I think that he still can throw the, you know, the piss out of the ball. And, you know, I've got a lot of respect for him. He's a guy that I grew up watching and idolizing and wanted to emulate when I was on the football field. So it's still super cool to know that I'm in that position playing against
Starting point is 00:19:52 him and having that relationship that I have with him. It's a, it's pretty surreal. Brothers 18 years in motherfucking people at training camp practice. That was on hard knocks last night. That's what, cause I did see that clip on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. Cause Cobb last week. That's tough for all of us. That's going to be, that's tough for all of us, last night. I did see that clip on Twitter. Yeah, yeah. Because Cobb last week. Sorry, X. That's tough for all of us. That's going to be tough for all of us,
Starting point is 00:20:09 especially you that's been in like the, you've been in training camp for most of X's existence. But like a couple weeks ago, there was a clip from Cobb where he was calling up the wide receivers. He's like, hey, we got to stop fucking up. Okay, everything's crewing by hour right now with the hippie quarterback, but he's going to lose his shit. And then Aaron gives a press conference interview afterwards. He's like's like you know i'm kind of different now i'm a
Starting point is 00:20:28 little bit older guy you know i kind of i understand i don't want to do that then last night he's like all right fuck it we're doing this you're doing that you're gonna do that i love are you vocal how are you how are you in practices how are you with the say of the offense what's getting called all that type of stuff a lot of of ownership from you, I would assume? Yeah, and I think as I get into the later parts of my career as we're going in, I'm in year six now. I know the offense like the back of my hand. So when I speak, I feel like guys listen because I feel like I know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:21:01 So I don't tend to speak too often. I try to play more with my actions and lead that way. But as I get older, again, I think the more that I can talk and make sure that guys understand what's going on and try to get on the same page with guys, I think that's going to help our team. What have you been doing all training camp? Just telling the defense that they're a bunch of sorry-ass bitches? I heard you guys have just been fighting the whole time, right?
Starting point is 00:21:21 That's the narrative. That's the narrative outside. It's been a very tense camp. Is that real? It's been awesome. Oh, you've loved loved it you've been a part of it that you've been in there doing this number here you're part of this number here i'm i'm in there a little bit red jersey red jersey in there i bet you that's an awesome conversation with whoever is i'm all out of fucking hit you what do we even that's awesome that's incredibly nice it's it's
Starting point is 00:21:43 been a fun camp and i think that the energy that we've had, and again, both sides want it. There are some days that we kick the defense's ass. There are some days that they kicked our ass, and I think there's been some stalemate days. It's been fun. We've been going back and forth, and we've got some really, really special players and special teammates on the other side of the ball,
Starting point is 00:22:03 and we love those guys, and the more that we can do to push each other, the better we're going to be. That's what it's all about right here. See that? Boom. See that thing right there? That's what it's all about. There's one right there. Fucking buffaloes everywhere.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Might be the same one, actually. Look at that. Is that our buffalo? Hold on. Oh, there it is. Close. We got another. Brothers, maybe. We got a buffalo up here, too. Close. We got another. Brothers, maybe.
Starting point is 00:22:26 We got a buffalo up here, too. We got a buffalo up here. Hanging up here. There's three buffaloes. Yeah, hey, we got a lot of buffaloes, and there's one up there. It's the most buffaloes that have ever been on a sports show in history. I would like to break that record. I'm happy that we have it.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Josh, have an incredible day. Good luck this season. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you, boys. Appreciate it. Hey, so 7,500 yards, you think? That's what we're going for this year? You say it'll happen. Let's go. All right. We'll donate a bunch of money
Starting point is 00:22:55 if it happens. Hey, if you hear about Bean sandbagging us, by the way, shot a fucking 78 at, what was that place? Oak Hill. Shot a 78 in the middle of training camp at Oak Hill. Yeah, he can play. Have you seen his calves? I have not seen the calves.
Starting point is 00:23:09 They're good. Great calves. Okay. That means he's a good golfer. Ladies and gentlemen, Josh Allen. Thank you, buddy. Josh has great calves as well, I assume. We didn't get to see him in that entire conversation,
Starting point is 00:23:19 but that's a beautiful looking creature. Beautiful. Gorgeous buffalo. Man, we need to protect them. Well. No, no, no. We'll just chop their heads off and put them on the wall like that one. No, that's a fake. That's not beautiful looking creature. Gorgeous buffalo. Man, we need to protect them. No, no, no. We'll just chop their heads off and put them on the wall like that one. No, that's a fake.
Starting point is 00:23:28 That's not a real one. That one's never actually alive. We would never do that to the buffalo. Buffalo have a great part of American history. Massive part of American history is that fucking thing right there. What's the difference between that and a bison? Because I don't know. That's an honest question.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Might be a male-female thing. Could be. Could be a water thing. Aren't buffaloes big in water? Water buffaloes are. Water buffalo. Oh, okay. Those are different.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Hey, you were on the right. I knew there was something with buffaloes and water. I just forgot. So you're telling me, so how do you tell the difference between buffalo and bison? Bison have large humps at their shoulders and bigger heads than buffalo. They also have beards as well as thick coats, which they shed in the spring and early summer. Another simple way to tell a buffalo from a bison, look at the fucking horns.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Bison kind of big-dogging. So how do we know which one? I think both are buffalo. That might be a bison, actually. We've been calling this Cousy the Buffalo the whole time. It might be Cousy the Bison. But the horns look just like that buffalo. Yeah, but is that a bison?
Starting point is 00:24:24 That could be a bison. Oh. Is there a photograph of the horns look just like that buffalo. Yeah, but is that a bison? That could be a bison. Is there a photograph of the two or just words? It's gone. Yeah, it'd be a nice side-by-side. Well, I know Buffalo is also a city in western New York. It is. We love. Bison's a city in Wyoming.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Bison, Wyoming? Yep. That was just shot in the dark. Where are the planes at? I'm sure they got a bison out there somewhere. Somebody had to name a city after this thing. Are bills like a flock of buffalo then? That's a water buffalo. So that's a bison.
Starting point is 00:24:53 No, that's a water buffalo. That's about it. Yeah, they're actually called bison. We just call them buffalo because we've been doing it for a long time, and it sounds cooler, so we just stuck with it. Oh, so it's like whenever they called the Native Americans Indians. Yes. Because they thought they landed in India. Yeah. And they're like, yep, just stuck with it. Oh, so it's like whenever they called the Native Americans Indians. Yes. Because they thought they landed in India. Yeah. And they're like, yep, fucking sticking with it.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I think that is how it went. I think that is how it went. That same thing with the Bison. Pretty much, yeah. This has been a Bison the whole time. This also, Bison. What a wild world we live in. Wow. Okay, good for us. So Buffalo's incorrect. Yeah, they are. Where do Bills come from? It makes sense, though, because Buffalo's look like they suck.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Sorry, ass. Yeah. Nobody's scared of one of these. They're not the Buffalo Buffalo. They're the Buffalo Bills. They're not the Buffalo Buffalo. Yeah, but they got a buffalo on the top. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:38 They got a bison. Buffalo bison is actually a pretty good name, too. Oh, my God. That's tasty. Yeah. What are Bills, then? Just a bunch of Bison? It's a guy who wears khakis and polo.
Starting point is 00:25:51 How does Bill link to Bison? Yeah, Buffalo Bills. So are Bills just a bunch of Bison? Is that like a flock? So if you look out there, it's like, wow, look at that group of bills out there. Is that what they used to say whenever bison were running in herds? Makes sense. Oh, a bill is a law presented to Parliament for discussion.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Oh, yeah. A lot of those get passed. Some of them don't and stuff like that. Right. In 1901, there was a currency. Yes! Yes! There was a currency.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I sent it in. There's a picture of it. The 1901 Buffalo Bison Bill. It's a $10 bill with a bison on it. So they're money. So it's the Buffalo money. Okay. It's a weird name for a team that's using
Starting point is 00:26:42 public funding to build their stadium. They need to bring that back. I was stadium. No, that makes complete sense. They need to bring that back. I was going to say, I love that bill. Can you imagine putting one of those in a wallet? Oh, my God. Getting changed. All right, here's $15 back.
Starting point is 00:26:54 There's a five. Here's a Buffalo 10. That's what it costs you, a Buffalo bill. That'd be sweet. Oh, my God. Yep. Buffalo bill. You got Benjamins.
Starting point is 00:27:04 You got Franklins. You got one in Buffalo. What? All right. So Buffalo Bill, I assume those are worth a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Like a $2 bill.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Those are pretty common. Those are common. This is horse racing. Is that where it is? I don't know. Northeast or not. Just an old will come over to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And they will. Happy birthday. Here's your $2 bill. Thank you so much. They take you old. So do you think in the future money's used at all? No, right? I mean, already with Apple Pay, it feels like it's being kind of wiped away.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Basically? Apple Pay is fantastic. It's the best. Strip clubs. I don't want to sidetrack you guys too far, but the team was named after Buffalo Billal, the Western Frontiersman. Oh, hell yeah. Buffalo Beal.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Buffalo Beal. Not the guy that put it in the hole and put the lotion on the ceiling. Yeah, that's Buffalo Beal. Yeah, that's the guy down at the bottom of the well. He came after. Buffalo Beal came after that? All right, we'll go Buffalo Beals. Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Not the creepy guy. Not that guy. Not the killer. Not the money either. What was Buffalo Beal? Here's a Western Frontiersman. He wrote for the Pony Express. William Cody, Buffalo Beal Cody.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Pony Express. He was on back of one of these? I think so. Back of a buffalo? Bison? No, horse. Backroom Bill also tells people to put the lotion on the skin when they're deep down in the hole. Yeah, so you got the Buffalo Beals that are money, currency, and a Western Frontiersman. Then you got the Buffalo Beals that are money, currency, and a western
Starting point is 00:28:25 frontiersman. Then you got the Buffalo Beals that are actual money. And then you got the backroom Beal that is Bill McComas. Kind of a combination of the three. That guy's fucking sick. How come that is not the logo? He should be the mascot.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You know how they're talking about the big buffaloes in front of the new stadium? Yep. This guy needs to be 45 feet tall. Yes. In front of them. Or he should take that saddle and put it on one of
Starting point is 00:28:50 those 400 foot tall buffaloes and ride it. They should have Buffalo Beal riding a bison. Yeah. In front of the new Buffalo Beal.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Like a 60 foot bison and he's 45 feet. Put Buffalo Beal right on top of this one. The middle one. Right here. Yep. Look how big that son of a bitch this one. The middle one. Right here. Yep. Look how big that son of a bitch is.
Starting point is 00:29:08 That's a big fucking bison. And he can be shooting somebody? Good ideas. Yeah, just a never-ending supply. I don't know how we do it. Every day, just a new... This morning, our best idea? Oh, we're going to do a hole-in-one challenge.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah, yeah. Right outside the back. Good time. Streaming live. Had a blast. Very fun. If you missed it, know that nothing happened. Yeah, right. Close, though. It's a hole-in-one challenge. Yeah, yeah. Right outside the back. Good time. Streaming live. Had a blast. Very fun. If you missed it, know that nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:29:27 No. Yeah, right. Close, though. It's a hole-in-one challenge. No hole-in-ones happened, but there were some people dancing. I had a couple good shots I felt good about.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Ooh, a little club twirl. The guy liked it. Rolled right by. What's that octopus? Yeah, the octopus is the GoPro at the end of there. Ty Schmidt actually commentating the entire time.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Pac-Man had a couple good balls. We're each hitting 10 apiece at a time. And I'd say it ended with like probably nine balls on the green, probably. Maybe. Maybe eight. They were rolling. Well, yeah, but we count those as on because Russ Green needs to put a little bit more sand. But Ty almost put that in there on his sixth ball.
Starting point is 00:30:02 That was a thing of beauty. Well, you know, I mean, after watching so many good golf shots, you kind of know, okay, I need to kind of use this in my swing or kind of, you know, take it off a little bit. So, I mean, you guys kind of put the game plan out there, and I just tried to go out and execute. There were some bad golf shots, too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:19 For sure. Gumpy had a helmet on out there. Oh. Good backstab. Would have taken it. Yep. Would have taken it. Yep. Would have accepted it. For sure.
Starting point is 00:30:29 The one you hit hopped just over the hole. That was so fucking close. Ball. It's a good ball. Could you imagine one of these balls? Oh, yeah. It's going to happen. Come on.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Get left. I feel like I hit had pretty good golf. Dirty did all right. Yeah. He's living around it. Yeah, he hit one that spun. Yeah, that was the one. That was the one.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I thought that was early. That's my first time seeing it. Dirty, that was a great golf shot. Great shot. He had two of those. He had another one on the right side that kind of stuck and stayed. Came back. Yeah, I mean, we threw a couple darts out there.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It's a long morning. Nobody hit anything. Nobody won anything. No money for charity. It was fun, though. And the wind kind of came outarts out there. It's a long morning. Nobody hit anything. Nobody won anything. No money for charity. It was fun, though, and the wind kind of came out of nowhere. The left-to-right wind did not help us. All right, let's move on to not our ideas, other people's ideas. That would be NFL general managers on who's going to make their team,
Starting point is 00:31:17 who's not going to make their team. Cut day didn't really have that many surprises, to be honest with you. No big name that you go, really? Or, wow, he's going to get picked up quick. Or, he's a cap casualty. Didn't feel like it was that this type of year. The big news was the PUP designations, where there was superstars all over the league
Starting point is 00:31:35 that will be missing the first four games this season. Obviously, Jonathan Taylor, he is on PUP because they were not able to trade him. We will dive into that in moments because there's somebody out of Miami saying, they made a wild request. A wild request. Kyler Murray, also, on the
Starting point is 00:31:51 PUP. We don't know when he's going to come back. If you listen to Michael Lombardi, he's saying they're not going to play him at all because if he plays and gets hurt, that's another $56 million they will guarantee him. They're moved on, is what Michael Lombardi said. Not saying he's right. Not saying he knows. He's just looking at the contract saying they are done with Kyler Murray. Don't even question when he's coming back.
Starting point is 00:32:09 They won't play him. That's what Lambeau said yesterday. It was a surprise to all of us. Von Miller, we thought he'd be back in time for week one. He's not going to be back until at least week five. Austin Corbett, big news. Lael Collins, Eric Stokes, Caleb Farley, Jalen Guyton, Nick Needham, Baron Brown.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I don't know who a lot of these people are here down at the bottom, but Aaron Robinson and Dwayne Smoot. That's a great way to spell Dwayne. I hope that that continues to be the thing. We hope all these guys get healthy and get back. Let's talk about Jonathan Taylor, though, being on the PUP designation. He was on there before. They thought they'd get a trade done.
Starting point is 00:32:41 If they get a trade done, probably a deal done. Then he's cleared. He's back playing for another team. Whenever they said, hey, Jonathan Taylor, you go get a trade done. If they get a trade done, probably a deal done. Then he's cleared. He's back playing for another team. Whenever they said, hey, Jonathan Taylor, you go find a trade partner. We will potentially go ahead and execute the trade at this stage, even though at one point they said, we aren't trading them ever, brother. Not now, not October, not never. You're not running this thing.
Starting point is 00:32:59 We are running this thing. So whenever they go and say, hey, you can go find a trade partner, all the reporters, all of them, Shefty from ESPN, his crew, Rappaport from NFL Network, his crew, there's going to be a lot of interest in Jonathan Taylor. A lot of teams are going to be interested in Jonathan Taylor. Everybody's going to be interested. So I think a lot of us Colts fans said,
Starting point is 00:33:18 okay, cool, this is going to get handled quickly. This situation, he will get traded for, bang, he's out of there. We'll get something in return, whether it's picks, whether it's a player. Of course. Whatever it is, how a trade works, we thought as Colts fans, we got our best player out of the building who doesn't want to be there, although it would be better if he was all in and playing for the Colts.
Starting point is 00:33:38 We'd like it, and we're going to get something back in return. And then the Anthony Richardson era is off and running. So now we're hearing that no deal was able to be made and another team that was in there allegedly other than dolphins green bay packers so green bay who already has a.j dillon and aaron jones were allegedly the mystery team that was in the conversation with the colts to trade for jonathan taylor would have been fascinating if we get one of those running backs back probably yeah i would assume that's going to be i would think a.j dillon would be who they were trying to get rid of colts probably
Starting point is 00:34:05 asking for aaron jones aaron jones so then whenever it comes out from a miami dolphins reporter that from my sources and i can confirm the dolphins person as reportedly by indie media the colts made wild requests from miami including waddle and more so in a trade conversation, they made a wild request asking for their number two wide receiver when we're giving up our best player in this trade who's not happy to be there. They're trying to frame it as if the Colts would not accept any trade offer that was coming. They made these requests that were impossible to fulfill. It's like, I don't think that's a wild request at all by the Indianapolis Colts. Now, I obviously got killed
Starting point is 00:34:46 by some people who are Dolphins fans, because they're saying, we're never going to give up Waddle. We're never going to give up Waddle. It's like, well, if you're the Indianapolis Colts, you're giving up Jonathan Taylor, who was in the MVP conversation a couple years ago, a request should certainly be at least the number two wide receiver for the other team, especially
Starting point is 00:35:01 if you don't have any wide receivers on there. This is a request. Hey, Pat, how much do you want a year for your show? $250 million. That's my request. Okay, now let's go ahead and get in there. A wild request would have been Tyreek Hill. We want Vic Fangio too off the defensive staff. I think that wasn't a wild request at all to ask for the number two wide receiver back, especially if they're not going to give up as many picks as potentially was desired. that's a good trade conversation. So although they're kind of all these reporters who reported there's going to be a lot of interest for Jonathan Taylor
Starting point is 00:35:32 are going to try to frame this as like the Colts made it impossible to trade, I don't think that is necessarily evidence of that. It might be the case, though. It might come out that the Colts were looking for two number ones and they were looking for something else, which no team would give up. But saying that was a wild request here by Barry Jackson, who has been in the game a long time, I don't
Starting point is 00:35:51 really think that's that wild of a waddle. And then if the Dolphins go, no, it's like, alright, let's go. Let's go talk to the Packers. Yeah, but saying it's a wild request, I think that was just weird, but I think they're all trying to frame it so they're right in the end,
Starting point is 00:36:07 that there was a bunch of interest and the coach just didn't want to make it happen, but we shall see how it turns out. It was no interest. If it was interest, they would have made it happen. No one is going to give up their MVP candidate and not get something in return, whether it's a first round, a second round, a number two receiver, a number one tight end. You've got to get something in return.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Like, obviously, it was not enough interest. I mean, interest. Interest? Yeah, interest. It's a weird word, though. It's spelled weird. It's an interesting thing. It's also used in that particular fashion as well, which is wild.
Starting point is 00:36:39 But, yeah, I assumed with how everybody was reporting about the interest that there would be some deal that would come. And when Florio presented the idea that the Colts would just move on, going to want to take best offer pretty much, all right, maybe, want to get him out of here. But now that it's at $4 million seemingly, he's on the PUP. They've got four more weeks to kind of deal with this whenever the regular season starts.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So that's cut in half. Maybe they're able to find a trade partner. But this feels like if they're not able to trade him and he's on the that's four weeks yep he's his number's probably going to be yet again if he stays here and plays if after the four weeks he's back probably going to be similar to what they were last year which are not great so he potentially is fucked here oh yeah you know like i i don't there's a lot of time that this could happen and somebody could injure a running back, and there might be a San Francisco 49ers out there that say,
Starting point is 00:37:28 you know what, give us Christian McCaffrey off the Carolina Panthers, and they make a big-time play, and maybe Jonathan Taylor will be viewed in that way by a team if somebody gets hurt earlier in the running back move. But this doesn't feel like this is going to end good for Jonathan Taylor at this stage of the game, although I thought just yesterday a deal was going to get done by 4 p.m. It didn't really make sense to me at first when I saw that the Packers were like the mystery team but as I've been sitting here and kind of thinking of it more like I think there
Starting point is 00:37:52 is I think that does have some legs and they might trade for him before the trade deadline like you just think about it like Aaron Jones it's kind of a foregone conclusion like this is probably his last year with the Packers A.J. Dillon is on the last year of his rookie deal so they have the i mean if rogers plays 60 percent of the snaps they have another first round pick yeah he's beloved in wisconsin he went there like he's still young like i really could see the packers after he gets off pup or maybe you know who knows maybe now that the dolphins thing seems like bullshit they kind of iron it out a little bit more. This morning I was like, well, that makes absolutely no sense.
Starting point is 00:38:28 But just sitting here for the last couple hours and thinking about it, I could really see the Packers doing this. A.J. Dillon is king of Wisconsin. Any actual mayor over there? You guys going to trade him out of congies? The Packers continue to send these people out of there. It would be A.J. Dillon you would think that they would think about trading out of there. Yeah, you would think.
Starting point is 00:38:43 But is Chris Ballard like, so let me get this straight. But that's what I mean is they could potentially get like, okay, well, then they can give a first round pick. It might be the Jets' first round pick if Rodgers plays 60% of the snaps that's at the tail end of the first round. At some point, Chris Ballard will be on this program. Chris Ballard will be on this program. And he won't give us an answer with that southern accent about what all the actual offers were. We'll have to read his body language.
Starting point is 00:39:10 But I assume there will be information that will get out there that will be like, the best offer we got was a fourth rounder and something else, or a third rounder and something else. If the Colts aren't trying to just no, no, no, not actually negotiating in good faith, is how this is described, by the way. They're not negotiating in good faith. They're not trying to just no no no right not actually negotiating in good faith is how this is described by the way they're not negotiating in good faith they are not trying to get a deal done they are making wild requests for the second their second wide receiver whenever we're giving up a guy that everybody in the league right everybody all the national audience is like why are why are you
Starting point is 00:39:41 letting the best player oh yeah off your team and then now all of a sudden it's a wild request to say, hey, if you're not going to give us a one, it needs something here, so we'll take your second wide receiver. I just don't fully – I don't think we're getting a clear picture on what's actually happening behind the scenes from anybody, although it feels like all the reporters and insiders are literally all on the same page. But now it's kind of just not the case at all.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I'll be excited to hear if we ever learn exactly how this whole thing went down behind closed doors. Yeah, it feels like there's no way we will. Hopefully we do, but I don't see how it can get to that point where they're telling that story. But do you see anybody paying him still? I understand he could get traded, and maybe it is a team like the Packers
Starting point is 00:40:23 or one of those teams that starts slow. Like when the Niners got McCaffrey it wasn't where they were the you know 13 and 4 Niners yet they were still kind of figuring out because Trey Lance and Jimmy G and then Purdy after so I feel like it could be a Packers team a Dolphins team or even one of the better teams like the Bills or the Eagles who are like we could get a little better at running back and then we will be a legitimate Super Bowl fan. Is he healthy? Todd, as the owner of the Packers, you're sitting here telling me that you're willing to trade your running back and the number one that you got from Aaron Rodgers?
Starting point is 00:40:55 No, not necessarily. I'm just saying like – They're not going to be there. Yeah, well, right. One of them is, right? You assume they negotiated a deal with somebody. Yeah, exactly. Probably the mayor of Wisconsin, A.J. Dillon, because he'll be cheaper maybe but i i don't know because
Starting point is 00:41:08 i i don't want to say that he's been like you know but like he has not been as good as good i think as it's not like after this season they're just no matter what gonna resign him i guess that's that's the way to put well with trey lance hopefully you know maybe he'll get a little bit more of a running operation or opportunity, but I agree with that. With those two-headed, that two-headed monster seemingly in the backfield, you would think that you'd be able to just win games with them because of how good Aaron Jones is.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Aaron Jones is great. He's unbelievable. He's a phenomenal football player. Already been paid, too, so you could probably re-sign him more than Dylan, right? Because Dylan hasn't been paid yet. So, like, Chris Ballard, yeah, I would assume the deal is going to be easier to get done with Aaron Jones at the running back position than, like Dalvin Cook, for instance. Yeah. Dalvin Cook, the deal he took, $8 million? Alright, deal.
Starting point is 00:41:50 We're cool. Yeah, they did a Zoom call. Alright, I'm going to go take $8 million to play football for the New York Jets and hopefully win a Super Bowl. I appreciate Dalvin Cook pretty much saying that. But I didn't like, they're framing it, the way it's being framed is fascinating. Because I think everybody wanted to see
Starting point is 00:42:07 Jonathan Taylor get traded. I think everybody expected Jonathan Taylor to get traded. But I think all those people didn't really look into like last year for Jonathan Taylor. They were living off of two years ago for Jonathan Taylor. You're looking at a guy who's been missing practice allegedly and was out of the building because of an ankle injury still. So this guy's still hurt, missed games last year, and had had a bad year the whole team had a bad year last year it's like i i didn't understand whenever rapid board was like there's gonna be a lot of interest
Starting point is 00:42:33 and schefter was like getting emotional about like yeah yeah how much interest there's gonna be i'm like okay well i guess if you can find a great player you're gonna do anything to get a great player i think we're misled a little bit think we're a misled a little bit. I think we're a misled a little bit. But I hope Jonathan Taylor ends up getting a deal done with Jim Irsay. That's what I hope happens. I think that's why it's hard from people outside looking at it because I think they think Jim's pulling all the strings. I think the outside world thinks that Ballard's not even involved in it at all.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And that's why they – So you think Jim Irsay, brother, need to – what was that? I saw it. What was that clip? The guy did this? He's probably asking Miami for a new fucking whale. Okay. You killed Taka Tag.
Starting point is 00:43:12 So, right? That Nita... Already in debt. What'd you say? A little bit more. I was going to ask for Agent Zero, but killed Taka Tag. Got to bump up the depth chart a little bit. We got no real weapons on our team.
Starting point is 00:43:26 So this is – who knows how this pans out? Who knows what's real and what isn't at this stage? A little bit of irony in that. Wasn't Ursae in the draft room prodding Ballard like, Hey, Ballard, isn't that the running back you like, Jonathan? Trade it up to get Jonathan to him. Yeah. Yeah, that was where we were.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It was worth it too. Absolutely. Yeah. Guy crushed it. Yeah. I crushed it. Yeah. But, yeah, the story of draft night is that Jim Mercer looked at Ballard, and we were like 15 picks away or something like that, or 10 picks away. I forget the exact.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And he goes, don't you really like that running back from Wisconsin? And Jim Mercer had seen him, Big Ten Championship in his stadium. Don't you really like that guy? And Chris is like, yeah, if he's there, we fucking love him. Jim's like, don't we really like that guy and chris is like yeah if he's there we fucking love him jim's like don't we really want that guy on our team and chris is like yeah we're gonna take him and chris is like all right we'll trade up to fucking get this right and then get him and it's like thank god we got our guy and as soon as jonathan taylor comes in the building big smile happy to be here excited to be here love indianapolis love the team love being the team has not been great since he's been on the team but he has been something that i think people say you know
Starting point is 00:44:28 what that's one of the pillars though we got that position if we got a guy here we got a good guy here we got a good face of the program here we got an incredible talent this is going to be one of the pillars okay who else deforest buckner okay we got deforest buckner he's going to be one of the pillars good guy hard-working guy defense alignment too that's good shack leonard all right here we go we quentin nelson on the offensive line ron kelly be one of the pillars. Good guy, hardworking guy, defensive lineman too. That's good. Shaq Leonard. All right, here we go. Quentin Nelson on the offensive line. Ryan Kelly. We got like the pillars here at pretty much all phases.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Now we just need to figure out how we get the culture back to a winning one. And then all of a sudden, two months before fucking training camp, it's like the one ruining the culture is one of the guys that we kind of banked on. And I would assume that he thought this was going to be a relatively easy thing. I assume his agent thought this was going to be an easy transaction to happen. And the NFL just kind of looked around and said, nah, we ain't giving you that. No chance. Give you a six-rounder.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah. How about this? Agent Zero, Berrios, fifth-rounder, Jonathan Taylor. Deal? Deal. Let's do it. Jim's brother, I got fucking putter. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I don't like what has happened. I don't like it at all. And if they're just just gonna keep them on pup and just keep them away from everybody it's like we're staring down an even bigger dramatic yeah yeah whole situation so we're trying to just kick in a can down the road hopefully they're able to figure it out behind closed doors speaking of figuring out things behind closed doors every time zach taylor gives a fucking answer we're gonna try to read his body language whoa now we're gonna have to stop saying fuck at some point we're getting very close we are so whenever we're going on true to espn and i'm the one that said we'll stop saying fuck whenever we get on there so we don't offend all your people although every other word is going to
Starting point is 00:45:55 need to be in there and that was actually negotiated which is a hilarious thing that i don't know if it's ever been in a contract ever but when zach taylor is speaking about joe burrow who's my quarterback for my fantasy football team in the past i thought maybe he's just keeping it kind of sly you know he's just he's kind of laughing he's giving like bill belichick like answers you know he's saying he's progressing and they're like yeah but how's joe for week one uh he's progressing with a smile it's like he's kind of treating this not that serious, kind of having fun with it all. He knows Joe Burrow's good. And then we heard this answer from Zach Taylor,
Starting point is 00:46:29 and I'm really starting to wonder what are we doing? Why can't you tell us Joey Burrow's healthier when he's going to be back? Here's head coach Zach Taylor, friend of the program, talking about superstar quarterback Joey Burrow and his calf injury. You said you'll see about whether Burrow practices or not, but given all the time since he had the injury in July, where is he at from a health perspective as we get ready for that season opener in week one? Health other than the calf, you mean? Well, just how is he from a health perspective as you all get ready for week one? I think he has a very healthy body, and I'm encouraged by that.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Just following up one more on Joe Burrow, is there any connection to his practice availability to what's going on with his contract situation? No. So it's just weird at this stage. Very. You know what? Like Gannon said, he's not – I'm not saying if it's Dobbs. That's what this is.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I'm not saying if it's Dobbs or Tooney, who's going to be the quarterback for us for competitive advantage. It's like, okay, Dobbs and Tooney, no offense. I think an NFL defense coordinator, Jack Del Rio for the Commanders, should be able to figure that out at first series. Okay, what Dobbs got, what Tooney got. I understand they got to prepare for more stuff, so you're in their head. But also, first game of the season, they got fucking three weeks to kind of do all this whole thing. Interesting. Is it a competitive advantage thing that you're trying to tell people?
Starting point is 00:47:49 Yes, it is. If you don't know exactly and you have to prepare for two people and you don't have to prepare solely on one person, it's a big advantage. I think everybody's thinking Joe Burrow's playing, though, because we saw that video of him wearing a catapult where he was jogging across the field. And then he was throwing. That was like, what, a week and a half ago? Yeah, that was a while. And he looked pretty okay. At what point will we find out
Starting point is 00:48:12 if Joey Burrow is going to be healthy? Because obviously fantasy football, but the entire NFL is a little bit different if Joey Burrow has an actual calf thing going on. Yeah, it would be terrible if you lose Burrow for an entire year for a Bengals fan, of course. It's not going to be an entire year.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, well, I mean, that's what it is. I got the feeling that he, like, tore his Achilles watching that video. I actually did. Well, he definitely didn't do that. We saw him running on the field. I mean, can you run with a torn Achilles if you're just shot up with a bunch of, you know, tore it all? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:48:40 No, actually, like, you physically cannot. That's the whole thing about the Achilles. That's why I guess we had the immature, amateur eye whenever we saw his injury, and we all go, ooh, that looks like an Achilles. And then everybody came out like, Achilles, your foot just dangles. Yeah, you can't do it because this thing right here, remember they held, what's his face, by these. Remember it was his Achilles heel.
Starting point is 00:49:03 That's right. It was his Achilles heel but this thing kind of keeps your foot you know as a thing sure and then when he busted it's down so you actually cannot just floppy in the video that we watched or he jogged across the field and then he threw can't do it okay if it wasn't Achilles okay which makes you think it's just a calf and if you say just a calf like I guess it's just a muscle it muscles all heel but they've been weird about this i don't necessarily love you're a steelers fan yeah so you're always going to come from that angle but this has been interestingly handled here by coach zach taylor yeah it has and it kind of feels like a college coach because it's going on
Starting point is 00:49:38 a lot with college quarterbacks right like it doesn't feel like an nfl situation because they're going to have to put out the injury designation the week of, right? Like Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday, like the injury report, the practice report comes out. It feels weird. And I hope it's not this competitive advantage bullshit because there's no one behind Burrow. So I don't understand it all. Well, let's go to college because they're out of the state of Ohio. And we hope Joey Burrow is healthy. I hope Joey Burrow is healthy.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Need you back, Joe. Hope you're okay, Joe. He looks so cool at everything he does. Need him in the NFL. He was at the messy game. He was at the messy game. Walking, clearly. Loving it.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Was he limping at all? Not at all. He did leave early to get a new Achilles, though, right? Oh, he did leave early. No, he went to watch film. Probably for week one. That's right. But Zach Taylor needs to just tell us.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Yeah. You know, this is very selfish of us to just be like, hey, Zach, enough. Cut the bull. No more bull. Okay. We worry about it. The Bengals fans worry about it.
Starting point is 00:50:32 But Zach Taylor doesn't care. Maybe it is the second. He's going to make it wait another week. Maybe it's the second question. Maybe it's a hold-in. Yeah, maybe it's a contract. That lady, great question. Maybe it's that.
Starting point is 00:50:40 We'll follow up. Maybe it's that. Hey, just real quick. I haven't really asked this because Joey Burrow, Ohio guy, face of the program. He's in the middle of a contract negotiation right now. He's not practicing, playing, doing anything. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:50:53 That's definitely not it. Definitely not it. He's an Ohio guy, football guy. Definitely not it. He wouldn't let that get him. Nah, he's Ohio. Fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Yeah, we're stopping. Good call. Way to go. Way to be an adult. Folk. Bosa's an Ohio fuck, too. Yeah, but he we're stopping. Good call. Way to go. Way to be an adult. Boast is an Ohio fuck, too. Yeah, but he's not on an Ohio team. The boasts are a little different, I guess.
Starting point is 00:51:11 There was a report from somebody in San Francisco. I don't know if these are reports or guesses. You know what I mean? Believe it. And that's the world we're in right now. The world we're in right now is a lot of guessing, but then if it comes true, it was a report, look at me. But if it's wrong, at the time,
Starting point is 00:51:26 this is the information that I had. It's a fascinating time for coverage of anything with the way X and everybody has some sort of sources or something. They're hearing something and we're all hearing the same shit. But I think that news with Bosa is supposed to be finished up in the next
Starting point is 00:51:42 few days, what I read on the air. Jason Dumbass says, source Nick Bosa, that is 100% my fault. I assume he's heard that his entire life. That was low-hanging fruit. I did not mean that. That's just like Zachariah Kuntz. Zach Kuntz. Harold Kuntz.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Harold Kuntz. Spelled K-U-N-T-Z. That thing got popped up in my face on this show, and I'm just trying to naturally read, bang, rude. He didn't deserve that. It was good reporting. Just like Dumas here. He did not deserve what I just did.
Starting point is 00:52:16 So I apologize, Dumas, in your report. But source, Nick Bosa will be with the team and available to play week one in Pittsburgh. The two sides plan to get a deal done within the next few days. Like that's kind of what's been talked about by everybody. So is this a report or is it a hypothesis? Is it a guess? Is it the next few days?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Does that mean four or five days? Or does it mean like three days? Because everybody's kind of been in that ballpark when they're talking about Bosa's deal with the Niners. Yeah. It feels like it is one of those situations, right? It was a Chanahan right away that it was like, yeah, Nick Bosa hasn't done a training camp his entire career.
Starting point is 00:52:47 So, yeah, he'll be here for week one and we will eventually get a deal done. And it's not as if they're, do they have cast face? Because their biggest players on offense, you know, Trent Williams, they're not paying a quarterback is the thought. Yeah, look at that. It'll be one of those situations where they'll pay him and the cap will go down. Yeah, somehow. Somehow they'll figure out how to make a move, and the Niners will get more money out of signing him.
Starting point is 00:53:09 But the Kansas City Chiefs up there, number two, this has been a big move, right? Mm-hmm. Who'd they open up? How'd they go about getting here? That was a big swing this morning. Yeah. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Mitt told me that. So we don't know if that's real or not. Obviously, that might be just in Mitt's world. But Mitt did say, big move out of the Chiefs. I don't know how they got it, but they're up at 25-3. They got a Chris Jones thing. So the number two and the number three highest salary cap space teams currently have some real shit popping off behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:53:37 with two of their best players in Chris Jones and Mbosa, respectively, there. But also, Kansas City Chiefs were allegedly in on the Jonathan Taylor conversation. So, I mean, there's money to be had, I guessosa respectively there. But also, Kenzie, Chiefs were allegedly in on the Jonathan Taylor conversation. So, I mean, there's money to be had, I guess, out there. And they're just supposed to go up again, right? Because weren't they talking about how after Burrow's contract they were going to rework Mahomes' because his cap hit is so massive that they need to just add a few years
Starting point is 00:53:58 and give him more money up front. So that could even go up even further. Yeah, because anytime somebody gets more money somehow, the salary cap gets bigger. It's absurd. It's awesome. It's a cool time. They're ready for players. The running back, I think the number one priority for them would be Jones, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:14 He's got to get paid. He's asking for, what, 30 a year? Is that what I heard? Definitely north of 25. He's a hell of a player. I'm excited to see how Veach kind of operates with that whole thing. And also, he's getting fined every day he's not there, so that's probably going to get added into the equation, even though they say, can't do that, can't do that. Okay, we're going to counter with 50,000, 100,000, 150,000, 200,000,
Starting point is 00:54:35 250,000, 300,000, 350,000, 400,000. Million. We need an extra 1.75 million on top of that thing. Can't do that. It's like, this is our new number. So this is what we're going to need. What's that? The Chiefs number moved because Chris Jones did not report,
Starting point is 00:54:49 so his cap number came out. Ah. Okay. Correct? I'm reading that correctly? That's what Bruce said back here. That makes sense. So basically, he didn't show up,
Starting point is 00:55:02 so they can now have more money to actually just give right back to him. Because he's not there, so they don't have to give that money. So, yeah, basically, it's just like an accounting thing. It's numbers, really. Smart guys. Thank you, Bruce. Thank you, Bruce. Bruce had a couple good golf shots earlier today.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Did he? When? No, you're confusing him with Tone. Tone had a rough outing out there. He had that one, though, that almost went in, and then he said, you know what? He quit early, by the way. Everybody was hitting 10.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Tone hit six. Then he said, enough of this. I'm out of here. But he stuck around to hang out and have a good time. While having a good time before his next round, popped his in-in. You know I have four boys. I'm going to do this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Head starts spinning. Almost saw Tone Diggs vomiting. It turns out if you haven't golfed in five years, you stink. You know I have fun with boys. I'm going to do this whole thing. Head starts spinning. I'm going to suck. Turn digs vomit. Look green. It turns out if you haven't golfed in five years, you stink. Turns out if you don't zen in five years. Exactly. It was beautiful out. The fucking sun was out.
Starting point is 00:55:55 There was a nice little breeze. We were golfing. I said, hey, Bruce, are you fucking going to get me a zinner? Okay. We were spinning, baby. It was nice. Did you yam it? No.
Starting point is 00:56:05 You couldn't have golfed, though? I'm an adult. No. Adults vomit from, I think, the spins. All the time. I think that happens on a regular basis. Yeah. Yeah, people like, they'll get twisted for the first time.
Starting point is 00:56:16 They'll even add in, like, edibles. You know what I mean? So, like, edibles. I understand. They'll drink a little, and then they'll put in, like, a dip. And they're like, this ain't no problem. And then all of a sudden, I'm putting my foot down. Where do I got to put my foot?
Starting point is 00:56:30 I had the good spins. That was a one-way trip to Zimbabwe, my friend. Nice. Way to go. Way to go. About 1,000 back there, Catman. He's got a Caterpillar cap on. Obviously, Tashman was offended by that.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Yeah, big time. Nick started dialing in a little bit. Never seen somebody dressed the way he was dressed today. That's the first time I've ever seen Nick in that particular costume. First time I've seen any human in that particular costume. But I thought that type of moxie and swag was going to carry into the tee box. He was going to put one in. He started dialing in a little bit after talking his shit to everybody.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yeah, absolutely. Beautiful ball flight. Beautiful ball flight. Distance control. A little to be desired in. He started dialing in a little bit after talking his shit there. Yeah, absolutely. You know, beautiful ball flight. Beautiful ball flight. Distance control, you know, a little to be desired there. Wasn't his clubs. Yeah, exactly. Not his clubs. Not his sticks.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Not his wrenches. He said, what club did you use? I said 58. So he took my 58, and then he was ice cold, hadn't swung in a while. He's in the 58 bat. 30, 40 yards short on a second time. Yeah, I forgot you were significantly stronger than me. So I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I think what happened was you clubbed up, then you found your swing. I think you should have went back to the 58, which is something you do have to balance whenever you have that 15-20 minute off period. Going into this next hole-in-one challenge, I think we're a little bit more dialed in here.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Whenever you go back, your first four shots are going to be like trying to right find it get your mechanics down find it again but then once we're in there we got to take advantage of those times when we're in there so maybe just like in basketball you get like five shots from your first hit of the green yes i like that you know what i mean instead of like having 10 balls start on a make start on a make you get like. Because all of us at the end were like, no, let's add a couple balls here. Maybe hit 12 instead of 10 because we all got warmed up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Now, with that being said, anybody that travels into the office that is a good golfer, the Chucks, the AQs, the Butler Birdies, you only get 10. That's right. Whenever they go back there because I don't know if we'll be doing
Starting point is 00:58:25 the whole hole-in-one challenge every time every one of them comes down. Right. But they will get 10 opportunities to go ahead and make one, and if it goes in, we'll have cameras on it. We will do the same thing we were supposed to do this morning.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Absolutely. So it's just like in Top Gear, you know that show where they do cars? Mm-hmm. It used to be better. I think something happened contractually where they fucked it all up, but I guess it used to be
Starting point is 00:58:43 like one of the greatest shows on TV over there they used to have all the celebrities that come on the show do this race at the end on a track and then they kept times everybody's time like that that has ever been on the show and it's like here's how this person did here's how this person did it was beautiful like it was a great segment of the program it was very intelligent we should do that with the with the out there. Put a leaderboard. How many you've actually put on the green. Or hit the green. You can put a leaderboard on
Starting point is 00:59:12 the Thunderdome or even just on the side of the fence. Out of 10, yeah. Stick on the green or just hit the green? Just hit the green. I think just hit the green is good because, I mean, I saw a couple people blade some backspin, you know what I mean, and stay on the green or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:29 And Russ Green told us from 250 it holds. That's right. We do need to probably get a little bit more sand out there to treat the greens a little bit and, you know, kind of soften them up a tiny bit. But they were pretty decent today. Yeah, definitely. Russ Green has gifted us an incredible thing.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Great job. With that being said, we need more sand on this. We do need more sand. The 100-hole is actually easier to hold on. The green is easier to hold on the 100-yard hole as opposed to the 75-yard hole. It's tilted back more, which is really smart by Russ Green. Smart by Russ Green. How do we feel about the rocks?
Starting point is 00:59:57 Is there any thought that maybe we could put something else there that the ball could roll through? Yeah, we did not know. The rocks were not in the original drawing. That was a Russ Green audible. I hate the rocks. I like the rocks. It's a cool Plinko effect. The rocks are also to protect the greens from Mike's discount mowing in case,
Starting point is 01:00:16 you know, because you get those blades a little bit too close to the greens. It's really going to do a number on them. Yeah, well, and also on Mike's discount, Skag. You know, they got that Skag. Yeah, exactly. The guy who cuts our grass is absolute beauty. Weapon. He loves cutting grass. That's what you need. Love it. No matter what you're
Starting point is 01:00:32 doing, you should love what you do. You're making sandwiches? Enjoy it. Love it. Love it. This guy loves cutting grass. Beast. Holy shit. He also does fireworks professionally. Of course. I think he cuts down trees too This dude is a one stop shop for awesome
Starting point is 01:00:48 Some roofing probably Bingo And I respect the fact that Russ Green was thinking for like a normal grass cutter I think the guy We got cutting our grass out here He would Yeah Yeah around that thing
Starting point is 01:01:02 He might even get in there Victory lane lift up the fucking blade, do a little donut on there, you know, kind of celebrate everything he's accomplished. Show park that thing? He might show park. He actually slid that thing sideways into a trailer the other day. I was like, god damn, this guy really got that Z-turn on.
Starting point is 01:01:17 He asked if he wanted to cut a portrait into the grass of yourself and the entire office one time because he's that good at cutting grass. And we told him, sir, sir, please, don't waste your time. It's not Mike. It works for Mike.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Mike, good guy, too. I don't know if Mike loves cutting grass as much as the guy that cuts our grass. Oh, really? Mike used to cut the grass. Mike's the owner. Yeah, Mike's the owner. Well, I thought Mike loved it so much
Starting point is 01:01:39 he just would never give it up. He'd die on a mower. I think they're cutting a lot of land every day. I assume Mike is cutting a lot of grass. They are a talented bunch. Oh, yeah. Hard-working crew. That's right.
Starting point is 01:01:50 They are awesome. Even if you don't remember to schedule them, they're like, if you don't want to pay for this one, we'll just get you next year. We love doing it. I love the way you guys operate. Yeah, we forgot to schedule you. They're great. But that golf course needs to be had.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Somebody needs to make one. Hey, a lot of cool shit in here. That golf course might be the best, though. I love that thing. It's up there. Yeah, I think Ty, in the intro for the thing, said this is the best thing or the most exciting. Maybe you said it. Yeah, in comparison to Tahoe.
Starting point is 01:02:18 No, you said everything at the Thunderdome. Oh, yes. And I immediately thought to myself, like, Red Panda was in here kicking. Yeah, yeah. Bowls to himself. Yeah. I mean, Michael. Panda was in here kicking bowls to himself. I mean, Michael. Mike Malone. Yeah, we raced Tony Stewart.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Smoke Stewart. This place is pretty hilarious. If we had that golf or the go-kart track out there permanently, it'd be tough to beat as well. That would be impossible to beat. I'm not getting into those courts every day. No, no chance. My ass did not fit. That was one and done for me. Oh, yeah. I'm not getting any of those courts every day. No, no chance.
Starting point is 01:02:45 My ass did not fit. That was one and done for me. Oh, I would do it again for you. Sure. I would definitely do it again. I would do it again. You're one and done. I mean, what?
Starting point is 01:02:54 Once a year, maybe? Oh, Foxy. Those real golf, real go-karts? Well, Foxy was 10 and 2, if you remember. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was second place. I was second place. Well, that was also when Bill spun that entire thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I was second place. I was second place. Well, that was also when Phil spun that entire thing.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Hey, that's part of the game. I agree. Good racing. Stay safe. Stay alive. It's good racing. All right, let's get to a break. AJ Hawk will join us on the other side.
Starting point is 01:03:14 He would figure out a way to put a ball off two rocks into the hole. Oh, yeah. He has the greatest golf god's luck in the history of golf. Ever. I've seen him put it through a forest. Okay? Should have died in there somewhere. Just one stick, all it takes just for that thing to drop.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Through a fucking forest onto the other side. Somehow it was like a Mario Kart track where you take like a, and he's got like 20 yards to the green. Yep. A little shortcut. It's like, how did it get through? That's not your real ball. You had to have dropped a ball.
Starting point is 01:03:45 You saw it with me. You saw it with me. You saw it with me. I didn't drop any ball. And then his next chip shot bounced three times in the rough somehow, like a trampoline rolled right up to the pin. We have the shot. Yes. It's actually in the next Foxy flick, which is a good one.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yes, sir. It's like 20-some minutes long. SB's and Tahoe. Probably the longest one yet. Yeah, a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff. Yep. When are we going to put that out? Probably tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Let's do it. Throwback. That's probably a good day. Hell yeah. All right, we'll put it out tomorrow. Sweet. That'll be awesome. Can't wait for the world to see it.
Starting point is 01:04:14 The Espy's behind-the-scenes stuff is great. Connor getting a plane turned around behind-the-scenes is great. Oh, that's fun. Tahoe behind-the-scenes shit is great. I mean, there's a lot of good stuff. Yeah, let's take you back in time, Connor. We almost vomited on a plane. That'll be a good time. I've seen shit. It's great. I mean, there's a lot of good stuff. Yeah, let's take you back in time, Connor. We almost vomited on a plane. That'll be a good time.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I've seen that pilot again. I think he's going to be in our life. I sure hope not. No, I think he's a good pilot. Good pilot. Yeah, he can turn a plane around if you need to. That's how you know. We're past it.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Who's we? Well, actually, we're going right back into it tomorrow. It's over. Nah, we got to relive it tomorrow. I'll never be past that. All right, AJ Hawks on the other side. We'll also take some phone calls today on his 1-833-432-3663. 1-833-4-DADDOM.
Starting point is 01:04:55 On his beautiful phone it in Wednesday. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. Sports world right now. U.S. Open's happening. Alcaraz last night had a cutoff. Yeah. He looks sweet.
Starting point is 01:05:06 That's fun. But, you know. College football's good. That was a man who, if he played baseball, we know he'd end up eating the leather. Oh, yeah. College football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner,
Starting point is 01:05:22 a president of Ohio currently, and a father of 10, COVID survivor, A.J. Hall. Yay! A.J., we missed you out there on the Thunderdome short course. We'll definitely have to have you out there at some point, pal. I want to. I was honestly watching. It was very compelling.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Great commentary by the boys, obviously. My favorite part was every time there was any kind of fancy golf ball, them just saying how Bruce was rock hard because there was like a Callaway Super Soft or something out there. I will say a lot of the Chrome Soft, a lot of people learned a lot about Bruce who probably didn't even know he existed. Does he get
Starting point is 01:05:56 very excited for like certain types of golf balls or something? Well, he's a golf snob. He became a golf snob pretty much pretty quick. He's a coastal elitist, obviously, and he had never golfed. So he came out here to indiana he started golfing he caught the bug he's probably like 36 holes a day he was out here all by himself pretty much on the weekends he really fell in love but then he started watching what like actual good golfers do started kind of making him think that's who he is and all that shit started kind of compounding i don't i think he has more
Starting point is 01:06:23 self-awareness now than he might have but boy, boy, the boys remember when he was yelling, four on a 400-yard par four whenever the other people were on the green. They were on tee blocks. So that's kind of what Bruce gets. But Bruce is a good golfer. Oh, yeah. Bruce, you did great out there, pal. You should feel very good about your golf swing.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Thank you. I appreciate it. And, you know, the best golf ball, my favorite, around St. Patrick's Day, you get one of those chrome sauce with the three leaf clover all over it. Those are the best. Bro, you're pegging greens with that thing. Oh my gosh. Pegging everything, aren't you? Yeah. Bought a thousand dollars worth of them
Starting point is 01:06:54 if you wanted to have one year round. I love everything about it. Way to go. Hey, Green. Hey, Green. When you see Bruce show up, know you're fucked. That's what we all know. Bruce did get buried in that thing. You guys killed him.
Starting point is 01:07:09 No, he didn't. You can just tell he's a passionate golfer and he cares. He does change his swing up, too. We had to bring that up. That's part of Bruce's game. Hey, I'm rebuilding my swing right now, so I have no worries about that. AJ, I don't know if you saw. You see a swing.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It's coming out of the park. Unfortunately, I can watch anybody swing, and I have no clue what any of it means. So if you're going through a swing change, it looks good. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Smooth.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I feel like it's really working out. Now, I did think that. That green is tiny. Eight feet. If you put it on the green, you'd be within eight feet of the hole because it's 16 feet wide. Obviously, it's right in the middle. So eight feet on either side of it.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah, you really got to stick it in there throw a dart pack through a couple darty through a couple uh ty almost put one in on his six this one right here was his sixth attempt it was beautiful after commentating for a couple hours right there it was good golf though his heartbreak city we thought a bunch were going in they did didn't. Which is golf. That's golf, baby. That's how it works. Every day. All right. Here's Brucie. Golfer.
Starting point is 01:08:09 With a swing, man. Beautiful. Agreed. Yeah, well. Oh. Come on. Gumpy wore a helmet. Was that 60 yards over the green?
Starting point is 01:08:20 Yeah. Safety first out there. Gumpy had a full Alabama helmet on while he's out there no you know hey that is fun though that could be another thing where someone you know i've talked about before you put like hockey pads on and we just take shots at yeah buddy the last 45 minutes i guess it was the whole thing was 45 minutes so pretty much from the beginning it was like gump come on let's test that helmet. Test that helmet. Because we started thinking, one goes off the helmet. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Oh, my God. What a time. What a clip. First ever hole-in-one off a helmet. If that was the thing. And then we also said off a chest, too, if somebody eats one. Now, there's probably a lawsuit pending if either of those things take place. But if the ball goes in, that's a good clip.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I mean, that's a good clip. We can certainly buy it. We can't wait to get you out there. Let's start talking about something that's very real and something that you would have information on. You know, we saw the clip a couple weeks ago from the Hard Knocks or maybe from One Jet to Drive, the New York Jet social media Hard Knocks episode, where it was Randall Cobb talking to the wide receivers.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And Randall Cobb was basically saying, like, hey, everything's kumbaya right now, but this motherfucker's going to lose his mind. We keep making the mistakes that we're making. Then Aaron was asked about it at a press conference. He had a spiritual narcissist shirt on, had one of those cool... Yeah, deep neckline. He had this thing literally on at the same time, and he said, you know, as I've gotten older,
Starting point is 01:09:39 I'm not really excited to yell at people or chew people out anymore, which makes sense as you get older. But I think what Randall Cobb knew and everybody else knows is, like, the reason why you can be at the top of the game for 18 years, why you can be four-time MVP, is because at some point, you are one of the most competitive people walking. Aaron Rodgers is not happy about what the offense looked like on Hard Knocks last night. And I'll tell you what, that Kumbaya shit did potentially leave for a matter
Starting point is 01:10:06 of moments. Here's the clip from Hard Knocks last night of Aaron Rodgers being a great leader to the New York Jets, and what an actual NFL practice looks like. You don't really get to see this type of shit with the high-end guys. Normally it is documented but never released because it could come off as a certain way and they're scared to do it.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Here's Aaron Rodgers saying, hey, we ain't doing this shit like this anymore in a beautiful fashion 319 fucking jumped again he totally jumped again hey hold your fucking shit huh why we can't have nice things. Here we go, guys. Break the huddle with urgency. 3-19. 3-19. Fucking mistake. One fucking drive. Yes. My favorite part's coming up. When he's stewing on a knee
Starting point is 01:11:09 When he's on a knee And then poor number 35 Standing there Not done know what to do Yeah Should I pat him on the shoulder Or tell him okay Or
Starting point is 01:11:18 It's coming up Bro he is boiling Here we go Fucking mistakes in one damn drive. Fucking unbelievable. Look at everybody. Should we concur or what do we do? Drop three fucking balls.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Fucking three wrong routes and a fucking false start. Kid. Solidest kid. 35. It's okay, Aaron. Won't happen again. What are you supposed to do there? Bro, but look at him.
Starting point is 01:11:43 He's just stewing right now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So mad. He's just stewing right now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So mad. Beast. Absolutely. Boiling. Nah.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Got it. Got it. Can't happen. 17. Step into my opposite. I want to get this back in the offense. Hey, you got a bubble like that? I might just try and throw a little short.
Starting point is 01:12:03 It's a nice little sequence here. I can look left. Oh, yeah. Somebody over there. The mic I might just try and throw a little short. It's a nice little sequence here. The mic didn't go straight back. He pushed through it too high. He's running down the middle. He'll be rolling on the backside. We get too high. Get in there and run. You inside and did that. You could go corner.
Starting point is 01:12:19 If anything happens and you blow wide open. We need to run shallow with that. Shallow lead. If you pass the hash, you're already in the back side. Yeah. And there's somebody else who could be dropping underneath. And you won't get fucked up. If there's going down the middle, then we got that. So cool.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Hey, now let's huddle. Now let's huddle. What did you just say? Hey, Hacks, relax. Yeah. And we're back. Nice job. And we're back Hey, I want to do that all day you know throw it whenever I can Release man. Yep quick yeah nice job way to go good job let's go let's go let's go let's go
Starting point is 01:13:12 look at the look at this guy look how happy he's fucking is too yeah think about just like 40 minutes ago Let's go. Look how happy he fucking is, too. Yeah. Think about just like 40 minutes ago. Oh, I fucking love it. Yeah, that's fun.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Hey, that was fucking good right there. What is that? Hey, Hard Knocks has been incredible. Congrats to NFL Films. Good episode. And also shout out to Aaron for being mic'd up for all this shit. Yeah. And also shout out to the Jets for saying, yep, we'll fucking run it. Because
Starting point is 01:13:47 those types of moments there with a quarterback motherfucking the offense happens. If it doesn't happen, you're a little bit worried about the quarterback's leadership and where he's at or he's too young. So for them to showcase that and then for it to bounce back on the other side, hey, that's good cinema there, baby. I like this Jets team, AJ. I like
Starting point is 01:14:03 this Jets team. That's great cinema. We haven like this jets team aj i like that that's great cinema we haven't even seen what dalvin cook can do when he's injected into this offense as well so i mean there's so much yeah they're riding high right now they better come out i hope they come out with a hot start you know the first quarter of the season as they call it which is not anymore i guess with 17 huh so let's come out the first five games go five and oh that 17th game i think is kind of considered a bonus game for everybody so i think we're still doing a quarter thing but they got the buffalo beals on monday night it's going to be difficult aaron though randall cobb what he was saying pretty accurate right i guess he's been always been a fiery guy practice that's how it is i think it's it's not as much i wouldn't
Starting point is 01:14:36 even say fire i'd say just attention to detail like hey this if it's 11 yards and you break in you run exactly 11 yards like that's how all the great quarterbacks are, like that driven type A personality. Everything is here for a reason. This is why we do it. And how you do anything is how you do everything. That old cliche quote. Oh, the little things will take care of the big things. He said it's pretty basic, 12 to 13 yards.
Starting point is 01:14:59 I enjoyed that because that was right at the wide receiver coach, is who he was talking to. He's telling him to run a basic. To run a basic. Yeah, but I think he is literally. Oh, yeah. He probably. Those messages were going to hack it. He's not just talking to players here.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Yeah. We dropped three fucking balls. He's talking to Woody. Woody's in the background a couple times, too. He's talking to Woody as well. We dropped three fucking balls. Okay, that's players. We're not doing that.
Starting point is 01:15:21 We got two fucking offside. That's offensive line. We're running this bullshit. This guy's good. That's the hack it. Yep. We're running a basic at 12. We got two fucking offside. That's offensive line. We're running this bullshit. This guy's good. That's the hack. We're running a basic at 12. That's to the wide receiver. It's like everybody in there is getting a message like, okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:15:33 We all need to tighten up a little bit. I love watching it, honestly. And when you break it down, bros, it's so simple to me watching because I've played so long. But for the younger guys, this is going to make them play so much faster. When he was explaining on that cover two route, hey, the fucking middle linebacker is running the seams. So run the base and bend it in so you can be wide open. Like little things like that is telling the receivers, all right, I know what the play call is. But in cover two, don't run going if it's not there because it's cover two.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I think that's going to go a long way. And the way they adjusted real quick, he said, hey, no more quick. We're huddling up so I can tell y'all I asked what to do. I like the fact, too, that he said, like, you get fucked up, you do this, too. Like, hey, let's go ahead and try to beat some stuff here that we don't need to see coming. It's like he also started whenever he said, now we huddle. It's like, okay, we just witnessed, I think.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Now, I don't know what's happening behind the scenes. I assume Aaron is saying a lot in these offensive meetings. I assume Aaron is doing a lot of dictation about things. But there is the first time we're seeing what it's probably going to look like in a game. Yeah. Like where it's going to be like, what do you want? Yeah. You see when they showed clips from the actual game.
Starting point is 01:16:46 And I love seeing the footage from NFL films on games when they're mic'd up because you're on the field, so it's so much faster. It feels more real. Watch him walk to the line. I just want to use it as an example to other kids or even other quarterbacks in the NFL, like the command he has in the offense
Starting point is 01:17:00 when he kind of moseys to the center and he just looks like, and he's just eyeballing the defense. That has a huge impact on everybody. Not only his his own team but the defense feels that as well well that was the hole you're not coming yeah yeah back up the joint gotta come there by the way right that got at that stage i mean you can't if if he's not supposed to and all of a sudden he gets jammed up in the b gap they just dump it right over him either way he's screwed yeah but it would be hilarious if in the meeting, what are you doing? Just wait. They got a mic clip coming.
Starting point is 01:17:27 I don't want to hear him. He literally, I mean, what do you want me to do? He challenged me, Coach. I didn't want to be wrong. He questioned my integrity, Coach. He said I was a dumbass. Literally said it to everybody,
Starting point is 01:17:36 to me, to the team. To you. Get the fuck out of here, he basically said. What if you'd have yelled? What if the linebacker would have yelled? No, the safety's supposed to show down over top, so you don't know
Starting point is 01:17:44 what's going on right now. No, I'm not going back. I am coming. You're wrong. You're wrong. And then practice stops. Aaron goes to the D coordinator. Is this guy coming or not?
Starting point is 01:17:54 Thank you. All right. Get the fuck off the field. Show a little respect, bro. Okay? I don't even know who you are. I don't even know who you are. That was a late hit for a pretty easy game.
Starting point is 01:18:03 It was. It was. That was a very late hit. I don't necessarily love that Aaron has to be the guy that's headbutting and pushing people, especially six-foot-five guys. Yeah. Big dude. Big dumb dude.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Who are just dogs out there. But I know his teammates watched that. I bet you Salo showed the film with a laser pointer and said, this is his 18th year. We're paying this guy whatever. Why is he the one doing this? But also, this is what everybody needs to be like on our offensive side of the ball that was cool to see and obviously aaron definitely knows who jihad ward is you know and on the flip side aaron did
Starting point is 01:18:38 tell him like hey you know the money you're making you're fucking welcome pal okay me and a couple other guys pretty much have taken this league to where it is. You can have a little bit of respect. That was late for a preseason game. Immediate pushback, by the way, AJ. If you heard Aaron, he even said five steps. It was like he took five steps after he threw it. It's almost like he didn't see him.
Starting point is 01:18:58 The last second he kind of threw his forearm up at him a little bit. I appreciated it from both parties. I like whenever people talk shit. I love everything about it. I assumearon afterwards talked to this guy i assume they have chatted since then because it's a great internet viral clip but i've been told by bruce that giad is basically an extension of wink he came from baltimore i think he had some time in indianapolis but he was like beloved by their defense over there one of the leaders i think of the giants defense um yeah i mean he's kind of a rotational piece on the d line but wink has come out and said that as long as giard ward
Starting point is 01:19:30 is playing he will be playing for for wink martin martindale if he can make it happen and when he retires uh he'll be a coach with him as well how do you feel about it the offensive lineman not being there for that now they're looking down the field obviously didn't see it you know well it happened after that touchdown pass it It happened twice, right? The guy bumped him early, and then the touchdown pass, he kind of hit him again. That's when Aaron came back at him. Was it Makai that got in there?
Starting point is 01:19:51 I think it was. McGovern got in there. I think Becton did. And I want to say one of the tight ends. I love that. That's good football. Oh, yeah. I enjoy that stuff, man.
Starting point is 01:20:01 And I like that 18 years in. Normally super kumbaya. And Aaron, you know, he gets a lot of respect from a lot of people like when fights happen you saw it on hard he'll get in there and like the other team is like all right that's aaron rogers like we're not gonna fight him right after during games you know he'll do something somebody will tackle him there's a laugh normally because it's like Aaron fucking Rogers is there. So I like the G-Hod. I don't give a fuck. I appreciate that. I really do.
Starting point is 01:20:29 We're so close to football. So close to NFL football. It is the best. And even the college is a great taste. But it's almost like when Brady went to Tampa, we're seeing what that effect has on an entire organization with Hard Knocks. Like you mentioned, when Tom brady's there you're gonna have more you're gonna take more reps you're gonna help you
Starting point is 01:20:49 know do the small things more and even the coaches have to raise their game like you actually we're getting like a front row seat to exactly what happened in tampa bay with tom brady with the jets and aaron rogers like it's cool to see and him you know not motherfucking the coaches but saying things that are clearly directed to them. Like, hey, I know I'm a player on this team and you're a coach on this team, but you're fucking up, and I can tell you that. I don't know how. If we go back a couple years, and I don't want to do this
Starting point is 01:21:14 because we like looking forward. Spaceships don't come equipped with rearview mirrors. They dip. That's right. We get it. Now, did they go to the moon ever? Absolutely they did, but we don't need to get into that right now. Have that on tape
Starting point is 01:21:25 what's that there's footage you've seen the footage i've seen the footage have you seen damn right goddamn right i watch the footage every night before i go to bed do you see midnight right before you go to bed that's right i got sweats on good i'm gonna need them exactly need a little bit of flexibility down here i'm watching the fucking moon landing boom all right i respect that and i don't want to go back in time, AJ, but how did he survive? If that's what he's always been like, which is like, you know, very similar to Peyton there.
Starting point is 01:21:53 That's what Peyton did. How did he have no say over anything? How did that even happen at Green Bay? I assume he was losing his fucking mind. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, if he's that attention to detail. I'm quite sure.
Starting point is 01:22:04 He probably lost his mind when the GM left. When Goodkuns came in? You know what I mean? Like, if he's that attention to detail. I'm quite sure. He probably lost his mind when the GM left. When Goodkuns came in? Yeah. He's put over that guy a little bit, right? Ted Thompson, yeah. He's put him over. He's talked good about him. But that's what I'm, like, watching.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Because, obviously, he told Hack a couple episodes ago, yeah, maybe we don't run that play from that setup. You know? Like, and Hack and he are very tight, clearly. And Hack is like, yes, more information out of you, the easier my life gets. And Salah's like basically D coordinator. Aaron's pretty much offense coordinator.
Starting point is 01:22:35 And when they're making those cuts, I think if Aaron wants a guy on the team, I feel like the Jets are going to be like, okay, you're on the team. How is that not the case in Green Bay with the type of human he is? How did that work at all? I don't know. I mean, he was definitely involved, like, football-wise on the field. He's always talking to everybody and doing things offensively.
Starting point is 01:22:53 He and McCarthy, I think, had a great relationship when it came to that. But as far as all the front office stuff or everything else off the field, I don't know, man. I really don't. I don't know how it all played out. Yeah. With the way, you know what I mean? You can see how he would go. how it all plays out yeah with the way yeah you know what i mean you can see how he would go because humans like that you know don't mind the
Starting point is 01:23:09 extra responsibility of like yeah making things how they think would work it's like a fulfilling feeling too i assume that he's getting from the jets right now like being able to yeah like a oh you respect my right thank you yeah first about hall of famer thank of Famer. Thank you. Okay. Played pretty good football. I have a pretty fucking big brain. You know what I mean? I understand what this offense is supposed to look like. He knows that offense just as good as Hackett who grew up in the system, right? I mean, this is basically his offense that he's running since he's run,
Starting point is 01:23:35 since he's a West Coast offense. It's a beautiful offense is what he says. So I love how it's all kind of going. That's a tough division, though. That is a tough division over there, and I think that's a reality that we're going to be staring down and Jets fans are kind of going. That's a tough division, though. That is a tough division over there, and I think that's a reality that we're going to be staring down, and Jets fans are kind of facing right now as well. Well, and the biggest thing with the Packers, too,
Starting point is 01:23:50 it wasn't just not having the say necessarily. It was like when he would publicly go out on a limb for a guy and talk about how he loved Jake Kummerow, and then the Packers release him, and the Bills pick him up right after that. I don't know if it was necessarily like, hey, I want this guy, and then they go their separate ways it was like he would publicly say he liked a guy and then they cut you they kind of made him look like an idiot it's like well we
Starting point is 01:24:13 don't think he's good enough so we're going to cut his ass whereas like there was plenty of examples of guys coming up who whether they were undrafted or whatever like rogers turned them into great players for the packers so it was just like little weird shit like that where they would almost like publicly be like, all right, well, we're just going to take an opposite stance because he took this stance. So, and that's because there isn't a conversation happening behind closed doors. Like Peyton never had to come out and say like, yeah, Dallas Clark is going to be on our team.
Starting point is 01:24:39 You know, like he never had to publicly say that. Right. Because Bill Pullian's like, hey, do you want right to be a part of this whole thing you know like that's the relationship so whenever i heard that that wasn't the case with aaron i was very surprised but i guess it's just how it is josh allen said being who asked me for my thoughts early we got a chance to chat with him he's healthy hey he's fit he's very fit right now great jawline on that oh yeah great on josh right now i tell you what i think they're in a good position.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I really do. We mentioned last year we were talking about the Bills winning every game, winning the Super Bowl. Now they're kind of flying under the radar. I'm sure they're sitting there and they're in their facility, though. They still feel pretty good about where they're at. Stephon Diggs being named captain. Josh broke that news here earlier.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I don't know if I'm supposed to say that. He was just named captain. That's awesome. Oh, yeah, that's big. That shows the respect he has in the locker room because you know as players, we vote for the captains on the team. The coaches have a little say so, but
Starting point is 01:25:31 that's big. We pick those guys when you pick captains, not by names. You pick them by what they work and they work at it. I think that's pretty... That means they're all on the same page too. We will assume that McDermott and Bean run a clean democratic process. Of course yeah yeah we will no bull you know because no election fraud there yeah because there has been i mean i know the real world is talking about that there's some
Starting point is 01:25:56 lawsuits and people are in jail of course mugshots going crazy going offest way to rejoin anything in the history of anything. Never surrender. Well, you're in jail right now. I understand what you're saying. We get it. But also. But anyways, that's because of an election thing. NFL coaches and GMs have been cooking elections for a long time.
Starting point is 01:26:21 What? Yep. All right, everybody vote. Don't tell anybody what you voted though need that to be very secret you take this vote to death don't tell anybody who you voted for then you turn it in and all of a sudden like a young guy who got drafted in the first round everybody on team hates but somehow you know the gm wants this work oh cap you guys voted got a lot of you guys voted and then all of a sudden right who the fuck? You voted? No, I didn't. Did you? No. Who voted for this fucking guy?
Starting point is 01:26:46 None of us. Oh, it's a fake. It's a fake. Selection's rigged. Yeah, DM pick. How many write-in ballots were sent in, and how much were they worth? So, Stephon Diggs winning it, I think McDermott wouldn't have just been like, you know what, going to put it on Stephon Diggs.
Starting point is 01:27:03 That's a big deal for me, especially with where they were just a few months ago. We know if it's a Giants situation because I saw the Giants announce their captains, and I think they have 12 of them. So is it a situation where the Bills also have 12 to 14? That's so many captains. For a shoot, Tony isn't exaggerating because there was a little maybe voice in there. They actually have 10 captains. So if you have 10 captains, do you have any captains?
Starting point is 01:27:23 Boom, first thought. That's a good question. Just like two quarterbacks. You got 10, you don't have a quarterback. You know how we said we have some breaking news out of Ohio State? Yeah. Did you hear about it, AJ? Did you hear about it?
Starting point is 01:27:37 What's that? The Ohio State Buckeyes have named their new starting quarterback. Whoa. Following in the footsteps of C.J. Stroud and Justin Fields is a man who was in a heated battle with another stud. Tough one. Ladies and gentlemen, the starting quarterback for your Ohio State Buckeyes, Kyle McCord.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Yeah. Congrats, Kyle. Let's go, Kyle. Let's go, Kyle. Now, everybody we've talked to has basically said this is a fluid situation. Right? Oh. Yeah, this is a – anytime you name a starter who is in a very serious camp battle,
Starting point is 01:28:11 I think the other person is being told, Allen? Who's the name of the other guy? Brown. Evan Brown. Evan Brown. There it is. Anytime you're in that type of competition battle, you know, you're going to think, like, well, if game one, first half doesn't go great, maybe the other guy what are you hearing ohio state everybody pumped about mccord
Starting point is 01:28:27 yeah people are people are they've just been people here are pretty anxious they wanted him to name a starter by now but i think ryan day even said i was reading where he said like yeah they both deserve to play cal mccord's going to be the starter but it's not going to be like hey i don't want these guys looking over their shoulder and thinking they're gonna get benched if they go three and out it sounds like they're going to get a chance but dev it's not going to be like, hey, I don't want these guys looking over their shoulder and thinking they're going to get benched if they go three and out. It sounds like they're going to get a chance, but Devin Brown's going to play, so there's obviously packages and times that he will go in. Man, the Ohio State Buckeye
Starting point is 01:28:51 quarterback is a lot of pressure. Think if you're starting, you've got to, alright, well, I better throw about four touchdowns this first half or I may not be the starter. You've got Marvin Harrison Jr. out there, and who's that freshman they have that they said that has lightened up as a water saver as well? Oh, man. Now I'm blanking on his name.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Marvin said he's better than he was this time. Tate. Tate. He went to IMG last year. He's like the stud. Julian Biving and Emeka Ibuka. Yeah, running back. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Yeah, so like, hey, pal. This is just like the Jalen Hurts situation in Philadelphia. Now the Jalen Hurts situation in Philadelphia worked. Where going into last season, they were like, hey, the team is built to go win. You're either going to play good or we're going to get a new quarterback. Then Jalen goes on to earn
Starting point is 01:29:31 $200-something million, goes to the Super Bowl, becomes MVP caliber player. It's like, that's what we've learned about Jalen Hurts. Will McCord do the same thing in Ohio State? Other quarterback battles that are still looming. Alabama has not named their starting quarterback yet. Excited to hear who Nick Saban thinks should be leading the Crimson Tide rolling forward.
Starting point is 01:29:50 He didn't release a depth chart because that causes confusion and a little bit of a riff in the locker room. Yeah, I do appreciate the fact that Saban said, yeah, all right. I've done every year we've announced a start, all right. But this year I was told, like, maybe not because then people start picking sides. You know, we don't need that. We don't need that right now. We need to keep building this team together. You know, we had a bad year last year.
Starting point is 01:30:13 We didn't win a national championship. That's what that means for Alabama. So we're going to let these people wait and figure it out until the very end. They kind of got to figure it out faster, though, because Ohio State's got, like, three games figured out before they go to Notre Dame. Alabama's got Texas week two. Yeah, that's a big game. We're going to be down there, by the way.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Remember, September 8th, Friday, in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Hell yeah. We will be live from campus. We do not know if game day will be there. This is not an announcement of college game day, which is obviously a staple and an institution of college football. Although Kirk Herbstreit, one of the faces of college football for the last three decades, said probably a pretty good chance game day is going to be at Texas-Alabama.
Starting point is 01:30:49 And if that's the case, it'll be Friday. We'll be live noon to 3 Eastern, 11 a.m. local, with hopefully some people behind us. We've got some big-time surprises. Oh, yeah. Get ready. A couple tasty treats. Tasty. AJ, these are the types of things that, like, you know. Guy Fieri? Oh. Would couple tasty treats. Tasty. AJ, these are the types of things that like, you know.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Guy Fieri? Oh. Maybe. Who knows? Is he making his famous pizzas? Is he bringing his rig and making us pizzas? As long as he has a donkey sauce. He is a big Bama fan, right?
Starting point is 01:31:15 Guy Fieri. I think he's a fan of whoever. He's a UNLV fan. Oh, he's a fan of the Raiders too, I think. Yeah, I think he likes Texas, actually. He likes grocery games. Yeah, loves grocery games. Cruise ships. Guy Fieri has a cruise ship, I think he likes Texas, actually. He likes grocery games. Yeah, loves grocery games. Cruise ships.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Guy Fieri has a cruise ship? No, he loves them, though. He's got his food on every single one of them. It's on Carnival Cruise. It's actually, the burgers are a donkey gangster. Boom. He has all of his gangster stuff on Carnival Cruise. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:31:39 There you have it. Could you imagine just being stuck at sea for seven days? Well, I guess getting to be at sea is how these cruise people view it. Getting to be at sea for seven days, and you just lay out by the pool, and who's right next to you? Donkey sauce. All day. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Always there. I get this for the next six days? Holy shit. Pouring shots of donkey sauce into people's mouths. It's actually right next to the pools. It's pretty funny. Literally, you could go to the pool like two feet away. This is real.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Burger bar. Trauma burger. Yeah, it's awesome, literally, you could go to the pool, like, two feet away. Try my burgers. This is real. Burger baller. Try my burgers. Yeah, it's awesome. Very real. Find me face down in the pool. Yeah, for me, in too many. Nick, that's because of how you're dressed right now. You've got a chance to see yourself.
Starting point is 01:32:14 I thought Nick's got tights on today. Yeah, I was getting to work in the Hawk House in the morning. He did look awesome. He had a full Adidas fit on today. Sweet. He looked amazing. Honestly, when he walked out there accessorizing the way he did on that tee box, I thought there was 100% chance
Starting point is 01:32:28 that ball was going right in that fucking hole. He got good late. Yeah, he did. AJ, you would hit that in, huh? Don't you think? Man, the more I watch you guys, I'm like, that green seems tiny. I don't know. I mean, I feel good with my wedges, but it would be a tough shot.
Starting point is 01:32:43 As somebody who ultimately had to pull the trigger on the greens, I mean, I feel good with my wedges, but it would be a tough shot. As somebody who, you know, ultimately had to pull the trigger on the greens, I think I overestimated the size of those greens. You know, I think we probably should have put those a little closer to the tee box, made those a little bit easier. Because the first time I stepped on that tee box and I looked at those greens, I go, those are the smallest greens in the world. It's going to make you better. It makes you better, though.
Starting point is 01:33:04 You hit that thing. You're within eight feet if you put it on the green. It's going to make you better. It makes you better, though. You hit that thing. You're within eight feet if you put it on green. You probably got to bring it. Well, if you bring it in high and you land it, is it going to bounce off probably? Yeah. Any more sand. Well, I'll tell you what we trade it. Russ Green needs to put some fucking sand on there.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Celebrity green. Come on, Russ. There's Russ Green, and then there's the mower guy, right? Mike. Yeah, Mike. Which, by the way, it's not just Mike. Mike's wife, also a massive piece. Diane.
Starting point is 01:33:28 She's a stallion. Diane. She'll get there. Diana. Yeah, well, I'll call her Di. Yeah, of course. For sure. Been around a long time.
Starting point is 01:33:37 All right, let's talk about some other news. There's a punter for the New Orleans Saints out of the U, and we've obviously heard his story whenever he went to Miami. One of the coolest looking fucking humans on earth used to run a tattoo shop in Bali was an Aussie Rose football player I assume
Starting point is 01:33:54 growing up was in the blue collar jobs and then he went over to Miami found a scholarship through a kicking camp I believe through the Aussie kicking academy or whatever now he makes the Saints 30-year-old rookie who looks like this. I'm pulling for him. I've got a chance to chat with him a few times.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Seems like an incredibly cool guy. And if you look at the Saints, new punter, new kicker. Will Lutz was just traded yesterday to the Broncos, back to Sean Payton. So that's a young department of special teams. If they go on a run in the NFC South, which we're all kind of expecting at this stage their special teams are going to have to be good whenever it happens i think this guy will be able to handle it because everything he's been through and i think old blake group yep from notre dame will be able to handle it as well i'm pumped for these new guys not necessarily young guys down in new orleans aj but this is a beautiful story it's awesome a 30 year old punter
Starting point is 01:34:43 he looks like this i'm looking at that tat on his right quad Slash hamstring Is that an old school football guy? Is that like Mark Starr throwing a pass? I believe it's that famous painting Where the guy throws a flower Oh you're right
Starting point is 01:34:59 It's like a Banksy Oh it's a Banksy Yeah I believe it's a Banksy Oh I thought it was a football Yeah cause he's got a mask It is a Banksy. Oh, it's a Banksy. Yeah, I believe it's a Banksy. Oh, yeah. It is a Banksy. I thought it was a football. Yeah, because he's got a mask. Oh, yeah. It is a Banksy, right?
Starting point is 01:35:10 Probably did it himself, though. Got a Born to be Wild dad, which is sweet. Born to be wild. Bam. Yeah, we get it. You are wild. This guy's wild. He's wild, brother. This guy's got wild life.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Good cleats, though. I like the blacks. All blacks, sir. Need a jersey. He's wild, brother. This guy's got wild life. Good cleats, though. I like the blacks. All blacks, sir. Need a jersey. Where's the trainer? Well, hopefully. No, no, no. I mean, myself.
Starting point is 01:35:31 You're going to get a Headley jersey? I think I might. Dewey? Dwayne Johnson's getting one as well. I'll probably wait for Bryce Berenger. He's the second best rookie punter. Is that Dwayne's guy? Dwayne, the U, obviously.
Starting point is 01:35:40 He learned of his story and he appreciated him and said, I promise. Yeah, much better. Make a movie out of him. 30 years old. You know, I was retired by then. Eight years. Ooh, that's a long journey. How long was he in Miami?
Starting point is 01:35:54 Four? At least a few, yeah. He was there a long time. Probably three different coaches. He went to junior college, I know, in San Francisco before he went to Miami. Keep going, Bob. Keep fucking going. Proud of proud of you lou way to go lou now lou uh rookie punter in the nfl he knows this you're about four shanks away yeah you know
Starting point is 01:36:14 any given time that's just how it is that's the business go back to bali it's no i'm just saying if he has four shanks that's what dennis sounds he's a scaffold him. He can use a scaffolder, too. Take your ass back. He gifted his tattoo shop to his understudy. He wouldn't go back and take it back. Well, does that guy pump balls, too? Because he's probably following him. Well, I've heard the Bali tattoo artists have cannons. Really?
Starting point is 01:36:36 Yeah. He could also be a judge on Ink Master. Yeah, well, he does have sick ink. He could probably just get back into tattooing on the side. Yeah. He does it old school, too. What's that? With, like, the rock and the, like, little hammer. No, he doesn have sick ink. He could probably just get back into tattooing on the side. Yeah. He does it old school, too. What's that? With the rock and the little hammer.
Starting point is 01:36:48 He doesn't use a gun. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. That's what he got that Banksy? That traditional Bali tattoo. Okay, hammer and nail. Jail style? No.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Where's he from originally? Australia. Brisbane? Oh, I don't know the city. Looks like a Brisbane fellow. To be clear, only city that came to my mind from Australia, but I hope the brain was just right there. I don't know where he's from. Maybe Melbourne?
Starting point is 01:37:17 Doesn't look like a Sydney guy. Melbourne? Maybe Melbourne. Gold Coast? Yeah, it might be a Collingwood. He might be a magpie. Is he a magpie? He's from Mandora. See?
Starting point is 01:37:28 Never would have got that. No. But I do shout out Mandora, Australia. That's not. 6'4", 220. He's a big lad. Big lad. He's a big lad.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Those Aussie rules football players. Oh, Mandora's right next to Perth. Oh, Perth. Oh, he's the son of Perth. That's west, right? Western Australia? Yeah, the very, very, very, very west and south. I only remember that because the magpies had to make a trip out to western Australia.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Yeah, never easy. Tough road trip for them. Yeah, especially with all the animals. They got kangaroos over there who really, you know what I mean? Big spiders. Big snakes. Big penises. That's right.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Kareem Hunt has... Who? What was that, buddy? The native Australiansralians yeah the perth the perth boys the boys of perth they all are hung like snakes snakes and penises you confused me i didn't think they had them well on a plane on a plane that was a good movie sam jackson great movie i didn't watch it i hate snakes and don't like bad things happen on planes i didn't want to bring that one into my life well it's it's not exactly realistic, but it's a good flick. I hate snakes as well.
Starting point is 01:38:28 It scares me. So what movies are realistic, you think, in that vein that you enjoy? Did you see Stephen A. Smith and Dan Orlovsky with Denzel Washington? No. Wait, Denzel was on the set? No. Dan was on Denzel's set. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Dan Orlovsky acting alongside Stephenven a smith denzel washington one scene that happened was this a movie or is this for a commercial yeah cinema come on i think it's actually a scene from the movie yeah so cool anything they're in is a movie okay are they recreating some of the scenes like uh denzel and ethan hawke from training day no it's equalizer i don't think they're having him trip on any PCP or anything like that. I don't know. You like to get wedged. It was him and Stephen A talking about being – he was being a picky eater.
Starting point is 01:39:12 And Stephen A said he was sick of this guy. I'm so sick of this guy. And they pointed at Denzel. And then he was like, hey, you see what this guy's doing. And Denzel was going to kill him. Denzel was going to kill Dan Orlovsky. And then Dan Orlovsky got up and left. And then Stephen A said, you can't run from A- async the back of an end zone oh yeah big pop very
Starting point is 01:39:29 good big pop out of me but dan made a great acting debut this is it i don't know if we're allowed to play it i would assume we're not was this from a movie yes equalizer three come on dan orlovsky imbd equalizer three boom that's awesome good awesome. Good for him. I didn't know. Why didn't anyone tell me? Bro, look how good he looks. Look at this face he's making. That's where the acting is. It's in the eyes.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Unbelievable. Look at his fucking eyes. Terrified. Terrified. I'm scared to death. He looks terrified. I'm terrified of seeing that if he was looking at me. No, he looks like he's questioning what's going on.
Starting point is 01:39:59 I mean, he looks like, what's going on over there? Which one's Denzel? Yeah, let's call Dan. Let's see. Let's see. He's ready to get up out of there. Yeah, Stephen A is about to talk some real shit there. You can see him in the middle of, well, you know what I mean, about to break it down.
Starting point is 01:40:12 This guy right here looks like he's a high school football player. He does. Cool tattoos. Those rings. Classic henchman. Why are Dan and Stephen A in this restaurant? They clearly stick out. There's Denzel.
Starting point is 01:40:23 There's this table. You got to know that as soon as you walk in. When did they film this? What's that? When did they film this? Dan didn't tell us. When Stephen A was on vacation, Orlovsky flew out. Who wrote this? I think, what's his name? Denzel? I was gonna say, are they scrubs
Starting point is 01:40:37 for acting? Scabs? Are they scabs for acting? Oh yeah, you're right. Did they do this during the strike? Who wrote it? Orlovsky didn't even answer now. These guys IMBDs, Rick. Scrubs. Oh, yeah, you're right. Did they do this during the strike? Who wrote it? Orlovsky didn't even answer now. This guy's IMBD is growing. God. Rapaport gets a show at the same exact time as us. Dan Orlovsky now is acting with Denzel Washington.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Won't answer the calls. This is our life now. That's awesome. I thought we were the sellouts. Are you for sure they're in the same room as Denzel? Gump, were you catching some ricochet shots up there in Canada as I was getting my shins bashed in by our people? Of course.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Naturally. I love that. Naturally. I got ricochet shots for Gumpy, actually. Really? Yeah. You guys are leaving, so I guess I'm never going to see Gumpy again or his little kid.
Starting point is 01:41:21 You're too worried about who's his little kid. Oh, why don't you guys have a talk about Gumpy? Yeah, Gumpy leaving his boy and his family up in Canada. There's a little lad up there? That's what I've been told. I abandoned a wife and child to be back here. Well, we do know that you are a single male, have been for multiple years, which is, I think, good for all parties.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Yeah, but you did abandon your young boy. There's a little lad up there you procreated? That's what I've been told. Baby Bubba. What'd you do? Is that real? We can come. People were tweeting that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:55 We can come. I think with the way the laws are, you send him into America, we should have just thrown him over the border. Yeah. Oh, because then, boom, and you're in. We're in. I think that is the case.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Probably would have made everything a lot easier. Yeah, it would have been easier to write a little letter for you that you're a father of a little lad. Yeah. Yes. Oh, man. Anyways, great to have you here, Gump. Way to go.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Thank you to everybody that just saw us down, and we appreciate it. Hopefully you'll stick with us. We debut on ESPN September 7th. A lot of things happening. I want to let you know we're currently in a phase of, hey, got to make every decision right now.
Starting point is 01:42:30 And it's fun. I'm sure it is. A couple things you got to deal with, huh? A couple different people. A couple. I mean, I signed up with it, but it's like I wanted to do this to make life easier.
Starting point is 01:42:45 You know what I mean? Get a little help. So we were like, get a little help. You know, we're the only show really that was competing against these behemoths who had like billions, if not trillions of dollars behind them with an entire army of lawyers and this and production and roadies and everything. Like everything you need pretty much. We were somehow ending up competing with these people, which is an incredible honor, thrill, all those things. But also, you run into some things through the year where it's like, boy, this would be much easier if I didn't have to fucking deal with Brett Favre right now. Boy, this would be much easier if I didn't have to deal with the NFL saying,
Starting point is 01:43:20 you can't use our graphics, but you can use our videos. It would be a lot easier if I didn't have to deal alongside ziti baby and anybody else that knows anybody with booking somebody every fucking morning it's like okay we'll go to a network we'll do this whole thing now we're at the stage where we've been very thankful with what how espn has treated us since we've made the deal but there's this layer of people at espn right about here you know There's people here we good with. We real good with. And there's people here
Starting point is 01:43:52 just at every department that have you know. Well, I don't think I fully well, can't just say immediately doesn't matter if you want it. Because you know, have to establish a working relationship with all these people. But we're talking to some dinosaurs in a few different departments. And, boy, I'm about done with that.
Starting point is 01:44:14 I'm excited. I'm excited for this to kind of be over with. The amount of Zooms that I've sat in where I don't want to say my blood starts boiling, but it really – I don't know. Why am I talking? So much wasted time in there. And someone just goes on and on. Like, this could be, this is so inefficient.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Yeah, but also, like, if I'm not in there, the decision that's going to get made about whatever is going to be made by those people. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know you have to be, that's what sucks, that you have to be there because things like that or there's big decisions being made, but it's like this could just expedite the process, but the good news is in every single department we've met
Starting point is 01:44:49 allies and we have allies it's just picking through all the well actually and then it's like here we fucking go here's a 35 minute conversation about how that's not real what you're saying right there and uh here we go but everybody wants to win in the end which is good news that's not real, what you're saying right there. And here we go. But everybody wants to win in the end, which is good news. That's what matters. That's all that matters. Everybody wants to win.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Some people I think are actively working against ESPN currently, but most people want to win, which is good news for the future. But I'm excited for September 7th to come. Oh yeah. When we launch, all these decisions have to be made by then.
Starting point is 01:45:24 And there's no hypothesizing of potential issues that we got to beat about. You know? Well, what happens if? It's like, is that going to happen? You never know.
Starting point is 01:45:34 Could. It's like, all right, well, I appreciate the fact that your job is to spend all day thinking of ways that this will get fucked up. And I appreciate the fact that we have to talk about
Starting point is 01:45:41 a hypothetical that could potentially take place. This is like whenever somebody has a dream about somebody and they carry the dream into real life about what is happening that's kind of a lot of these conversations that are taking place well what happens when blah blah blah it's like is that gonna happen we could all right gotta think about it all right here we go so i appreciate everybody i do some of them I don't And they know it The people I'm excited to get out of this seat too
Starting point is 01:46:08 The one that I have to be the I'm the bearer of bad news every time Not doing that Can't, nah Nope, that's not how it's going to go This guy's a fucking asshole Probably the people on the other side are sick But this is what you got to do
Starting point is 01:46:23 This is what you have to do To get anything done, it feels like. And I'm excited to launch on September 7th. I'm thankful for the people that are in actual important positions for having the faith in us. And then September 8th, we're in Tuscaloosa. September 11th, the Jets and the Bills play in New York. I mean, let's go.
Starting point is 01:46:40 It's about to be a hell of a start here, pal. It's about to be a hell of a start. Obviously, college game day is this weekend. We're live in Charlotte for the Carolina Bowl. North Carolina takes on South Cackalacka. That should be a blast. We'll be live on Monday and Tuesday of next week. Wednesday, no show because it's the final check of everything.
Starting point is 01:46:57 People love checks. Oh, yeah. The amount of checks. We can have some rehearsals, too. We can have multiple rehearsals. Oh, buddy. I mean, those things have been pitched numerous times. The hilarious of checks. We need to have some rehearsals, too. We need to have multiple rehearsals. Oh, buddy. I mean, those things have been pitched numerous times. And the hilarious, nah.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Nah. What are we talking about? Can't do it. Sorry. That'd be awesome. Can you imagine if we tried a rehearsal? Bro, imagine being on the other side, okay? These people have been doing something the same exact way for 30 years.
Starting point is 01:47:22 And they got me in a tank top in a Zoom going nah not even thinking about doing that nope they just their their mind just has to absolutely get but then they a lot of them have kind of come around but there's still some people actually working against us and i know who you are i will fight and i will remember it okay i will remember it. Okay? I will remember it. So we're off on Wednesday, so we can get one final check on the connection. We have – I'm not even going to get into it. We have four internet fibers coming into this building now. It's absurd.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Four of them. We could launch a SpaceX rocket from the backyard. Zito just said there's one more coming on the way. There you go. So I appreciate that. All redundancy, like in case they go out? What is out what is that yeah well ours has a double redundancy and then theirs is going to have a triple redundancy once again we appreciate immensely that that is how you're thinking but by doing so it feels like you're potentially wasting a lot of time and energy
Starting point is 01:48:20 it's not ours it's theirs right but just doesn't feel like it's an efficient move but i appreciate it so for instance we have one company two fibers in here different sides of the building that's what two companies we have that so two companies we have four fibers coming in here and then we just added another company that i don't even know had service here into this building and i'm sure it'll just all work out. No problem. I'm assuming that they'll just... And then Zito just said a little bit more elaboration here. One company has two fibers
Starting point is 01:48:52 going into the same exact spot. So same company, same fiber going into the exact same spot. So if this one doesn't work, I don't know. I didn't start the internet like al gore sure i think this one's probably safe to assume not gonna work either but we got it there you know just in case we need it so i do appreciate it just in case we need it so then we're back first day thursday i
Starting point is 01:49:16 think we have a massive guest on that thursday just one of them who knows who else will have but we're trying to really swing for the fences on that day. I don't even want to put it out publicly to put a little public pressure because it's not been confirmed, but it's a big name. This would be the largest guest we have. What realm of the world? Football. We don't want to say anything either because any time
Starting point is 01:49:38 that we have said this person's going to be on this day, they don't come on. Ever. Even with Rappaport, who used to be a regular. Exactly. Guy we used to know. Now you're just somebody that I used to know. Somebody. You didn't have to start
Starting point is 01:49:55 a show. Then we're live in Tuscaloosa. Then game day in Tuscaloosa, hopefully, we assume. Yeah, fingers crossed. Then we got Soundcast on Saturday night, and then we got the first NFL Sunday. How about that? Let's go. Touchdown, fingers crossed. And then we got the podcast on Saturday night and then we got the first NFL Sunday. How about that? Let's go. Touchdown parlays. Billy Walters said
Starting point is 01:50:09 you're a fool. Yeah, I heard what Billy said but I'm not going to listen to him in that aspect and I also have to check out the book. There's a chance. We're about to check out the book.
Starting point is 01:50:18 Hey, we didn't check out the book yet. We will dive into the book I assume at some point and I think Tony started reading the book. He's in the book. I've highlighted chapters, yeah. Tony's read the book because it's his profession but I assume, at some point. And I think Tony started reading the book. He's in the book. I've highlighted chapters, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Tony's read the book because it's his profession. But I pitched to Billy Walters. How about a pick each week? And he immediately said, I don't think so. We've got a follow-up. Maybe. Oh, really? How do you mention it?
Starting point is 01:50:37 Maybe. Hey, Billy Walters. Fucking Lolita play of the week. Could you imagine if we get a Tocate, Locate from Billy Walker? Yeah, it's happening potentially. That's why you are who you are. That's why you gotta send out a little, you know, that's why the wild request asking for Wado, it's like,
Starting point is 01:50:52 wild? What's so fucking wild about asking for Wado? Bingo, yeah. Wild would be, we want Vic Fangio, Tyreek Hill, and we'd like Tua to back up Anthony Richardson. That would be a wild request. But, you know, let's get to a break.
Starting point is 01:51:09 We're back on the other side. I mean, I cannot handle it. I hear you. I cannot handle all of it. I mean, believe me, I was so irrationally pissed off about that Noah Lyles world champion thing. Sometimes there's just stuff that gets said. You were. Irrationally mad. Like, shoot mad.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Shoot pissed off. You came in and you were like, what is this guy fucking talking about? I'm like, well, they've been saying this for a long time. They say the NFL is not an actual world championship because you're just an NFL. Who? I'm like, people have been saying it for a long time. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:51:46 It's Noah Lyles shit. He's like mad. He walks out of the room. He walked I'm like, people have been saying it for a long time. I haven't seen it. There's no allow shit. He's like mad. He walks out of the room. He walked out of the room sweating. He walked out of the room. Track guy saying the fucking thing. I got that mad about when Aaron was like, Mekhi and Becton just needed love. Okay? He just needed love, and now he's going to be a great player. Alright. He was the one that, to be fair,
Starting point is 01:52:02 he was the one that had a false start also. And he was about to yell at him, and he said, oh, what's McConaughey? I need to give him love. I don't want to do this. I don't like doing this because this isn't our show. But it has become kind of a character. Uh-oh. You know that turtle-looking fella that's been in politics for a long time?
Starting point is 01:52:17 Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. Who? I guess he froze again at the podium. This one was Mitchie? Mitch? No. No.
Starting point is 01:52:24 This one was actually kind of sad. What's his name? This one's sad. This is brutal. Listen, I honestly believe that speaking freezes. That's just a new way to describe something.
Starting point is 01:52:37 This politician who is supposed to be a great speaker, that's what politics is, is speaking and getting things done, freezes again. So we don't know if his whole body locked up or just his mouth, if he was just staring there blankly through something. And I don't know how the last one happened, but I do know this. Hey, smart people, figure it out. What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:53:02 We got people that are in positions of power that just can't fucking walk. Might be time for old Mitch to step down. When? 20 years ago? I mean, Jesus Christ, pal. Squeezing the life out of his life. This guy's making real decisions? Somebody tell me. Just educate me. Doofus. Shaking like a leaf.
Starting point is 01:53:19 That guy makes decisions? That ain't smart, people. I'm sick of it. I am sick of it. He's it? I am sick of it. He's 95 years old. He should be in a goddamn retirement home. Is it a stroke? What is it, though? Yeah, they're saying seizure or something like that.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Yeah. Stop trotting him out there. Right. Exactly. Why even put him out there? I saw an Anyone Under 80 2024 political shirt, and I think I might get that one. Bro, come on, dude. You smart people are supposed to have it all
Starting point is 01:53:45 figured out. And then you guys trot out whatever you guys' leaders are and it's like these people can't even speak. Ridiculous. If Roger Goodell had any of those moments, that's the meritocracy that is the NFL. If Roger Goodell had that, everybody that is in the NFL, every fan, every media
Starting point is 01:54:02 person would be like, get him the fuck away from our league. See ya. Get him out of here. In politics, they're like, it was two times in 90 years. McConnell's the sharpest attack. Sue him. It's like, this guy's making actual decisions for me? Where is he from? Kentucky?
Starting point is 01:54:18 I believe so, yeah. So he's not doing anything for me, right? I don't think so. Does he do anything? Is he like leader of the Senate? Does anybody do anything, right? I don't think so. Does he do anything? Is he like a leader of the Senate? Does anybody do anything over there? Yeah, I don't know. Now they're going to show you videos of him doing a backflip wakeboarding or something just to show how spry he is.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Put him on a bike. See if he can get off that thing. Yeah, we'll see. And that's why this isn't that bad. Because, I mean, he's just talking to a group of people. He's not falling asleep in front of a bunch of people who just lost loved ones. Well. Could be worse.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Let's get to a break. I've seen a guy say, fuck you, Joe Biden. Who said that? Some guy from Hawaii. Is that right? Yeah, he's not. Much mono. There was no mono.
Starting point is 01:54:57 There was no mono loss. Yeah, Houston was probably upset. They were not happy. There's a couple of them. A couple of them saying that. Yeah. Hey, heavy is the head, I guess, but if those heads
Starting point is 01:55:07 can't put words together, maybe we take the crown off of their heads. Phil's right. He's only 81. I don't know what you guys are talking about. I think he's got another 10 or 20 years in him. Mitch? Of life or of power? Power! Which number of life is this for him?
Starting point is 01:55:23 That guy's got 81 ponies under the hood. He does. He's got a lot of horsepower. Kentucky. Peel that skin back. 60 pounds of poop in his depends too. Does he go out
Starting point is 01:55:38 and poop in his pants saying this is what we're going to do and then walk away. That's his life every day? Pretty much. A successful operation there was him sitting there with that lady holding him up, saying what America needs to do. What the fuck, bro? You think they're going to deem that a successful press conference? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:55:54 I'm saying if there was a success. Like, what was the successful operation there? To be fair, Joe Paul dumped his pants as well during the game. That's different. He was up in a booth. He was too old to be out there. He skirted off the field. He can coach that out of a three technique, too.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Yeah, but he also ran. Remember when he pooped? Yeah. He had knee drive arm swing after he pooped. He did. Tom Cruise out there with turds floating down his leg. Yeah, Mitch McConnell's not coming out after this and doing like a Busta Rhymes verse. No.
Starting point is 01:56:22 You know, to showcase who he's still got. You never know. You should. You never know. I should. You never know. I saw him on the internet. Didn't miss it. Yeah, Busta's still got it. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:56:31 No. Send it. How's he doing that? He's different. Legit. Even with a little moxie. I'm like, you got to get winded, bro. He's got to be 50, 60 years old.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Oh, yeah. Big lungs. That's what I'm talking about. 60 something. Really? Really. So the way Busta speaks, okay, is how our politicians should be Oh, yeah. Big lungs. That's what I'm talking about. 60-something. Really? So the way Busta speaks, okay,
Starting point is 01:56:48 is how our politicians should be able to speak. Take note. That's what you are. You're a professional fucking speaker. Yeah. And we got this guy doing this. Hope he's okay.
Starting point is 01:56:56 It doesn't look like it. No, no. We didn't cause it. I apologize. I didn't even know he existed until the first time. There's no way he wants to go up in front of microphones, right?
Starting point is 01:57:02 You think he wants to do that again? I wouldn't. All this guy's thinking about is when he's getting his next cup of applesauce and when he can go to sleep. That's all he gives a shit about. Jeez, you've got to be exhausted. Don't be such an ageist. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:57:15 There's Ovaltine in there. Okay, for this guy. Werther's Originals. Chuck a chip, chuck a chip. I don't have a problem with olds. I was never really around olds. My grandparents basically all passed away whenever I was young, so I've never been around old people.
Starting point is 01:57:30 I'm sure that if you get into a conversation with the right old people, the amount of stories and tales that they have from living through so much would be remarkable. I got a chance to meet Sam, my wife's grandma, and listening to her speak, her husband was in the Air Force, I do believe flew like a dog beast yeah this guy's like a dog listening to her speak like a story she tells and i'll explain the situation and she'll have like a metaphor for my situation about it and i'm
Starting point is 01:57:55 like man that is amazing but with that being said if you can't speak and you can't operate as a human why are you in the most powerful position? That feels like that is what our politics is now. You can't be making decisions for other people. If you want to inspire me, sweet. You want to tell me something cool. But also, please step away from the podium. Now.
Starting point is 01:58:18 I don't get voted back in, right? Just because it's like... Yeah, probably. He's a legend down there. Kentucky. No. That one was for the guy. What's his name? Mitch McConnell.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Mitchie. This one's for Mitch. Okay, yes. Mitch, hell of a run. He can still dunk, I heard. Yeah, that's why he got voted in. He goes two-foot drop step, boom. I think he actually uses those dunkaroos.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Ooh, dunkaroos. Yeah. Those are so good. He's happy. Look at that. It's an official portrait. He took that 2016. That's seven years ago. That's what he looked like. Yeah, he looks like an old turtle. That's four years of COVID in between. Yeah. Mitch still had his fastball back then. Still does. Sharpest attack.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Remember, that's what people said. That's right. Jeez Louise. And in the present Have you guys seen my apple juice I don't know the politics world well enough I don't know who this person is I don't follow it closely enough But I do know Y'all motherfuckers seem to be very inept
Starting point is 01:59:18 All of ya So let's get that figured out Smart people Alright we're back on the other side With an incredibly intelligent guy Who I'm assuming has some thoughts On what we just talked about there So, let's get that figured out. Yeah. Smart people. Smart people. Figure it out. All right, we're back on the other side with an incredibly intelligent guy who I'm assuming has some thoughts on what we just talked about there. We will steer away from that. We will keep it into the college football world.
Starting point is 01:59:35 The General's top five, first edition, will be on the other side of this break. I can't wait to hear who he has in his top five of college football. I assume I know one of them. I think so. For sure. I assume the Ohio State Buckeyes are going to be in this list. Where does the general have him? Who does he have the other four as?
Starting point is 01:59:51 I can't wait to start a ride with this man for the rest of the season. Be a friend. Tell a friend. Something nice. If you can. You know, if you can speak. Tell them something nice. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:00:03 Maybe write a note. Write a note if you can't speak clearly. Maybe that's what they all need to start doing. Not speaking today. How come actually taking out the quill. You think their handwriting is legible? Well, when they get that quill. They should sign. Or just sign something.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the first edition of the General's Top 5. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for the first edition of the General's Top Five. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for General Bob Carpenter. Yeah! General! Okay, Meathead Radio, I love it. That's you and Schlage.
Starting point is 02:00:35 How often are we on? When can we hear Meathead Radio? The General, Bob, you look fantastic. Oh, Meathead Radio, it's coming at you, XM84. We're on Tuesday, Friday, and a bunch of Thursdayss as well so juiced up to get and be a part of that and you know pat brings some of the talk about the inside run game talk about hammering stuff that aj used to do go up and hitting those full backs and just blast them trying to knock their head off a little bit that's what it's all about i don't think right now anybody could knock your head off the jawline is defined the neck is massive i see you're
Starting point is 02:01:05 on the road to 30 pull-ups is that what we got going on right now i mean coach that's the goal i mean i looked back a long time ago i think aj and i were probably around 27 28 when we were playing not great that was about 20 pounds ago so i was like you know what let me see if i can get to 30 i'm about 20 pounds down i got on the bar do pull-ups a handful of times a day. And then I started doing it every day, two max outsets. And I've topped out at about 23 right now. And I'm still trying to work up there, trying to get to 30 because I make my kids do push-ups, pull-ups, and sit-ups every night. And we're going to grind a little bit. We're going to get strong. We're going to get a good muscular base. And they're like, Dad, how many can you do? All right, well, if you want to blow up on the old man
Starting point is 02:01:46 old man's got to get up there and show what he can do a little bit how much do you weigh about 238 on a good day so 45 on a bad day that is so heavy you have long ass arms too you're like a fucking ape i've been watching that you and aj both are built like that that is a long way good luck i'm gonna put that into my routine every single morning in the hawk house in honor of you and feel like I am potentially becoming something that Bobby Carpenter would appreciate. Now, go ahead. I was inspired because when I saw the quote that the pull-ups are the squat
Starting point is 02:02:17 of the upper body by someone you may know, it kind of inspired me to kind of go all in. I'm going to be honest with you. AJ, you said that on this show. Is that an AJ Hawk original? Nope. I stole that from somebody. But yeah, I agreed.
Starting point is 02:02:28 I heard it and it, boom, it clicked right away. Are you doing pull-ups every morning, AJ, down there in your basement all by yourself at 5 a.m.? I'm kind of like Bob. I like to do pull-ups throughout the day. I like to have a couple of different setups. Oh, so walking through the house. Fuck right here.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Dips too. I got a new dip bar too. So that's, everyone's doing dips now in the basement. Okay. When I dip, you dip, we dip when we're in the basement basement but you're not just dipping in the basement you're dipping everywhere else are you only doing pull-ups around the house as well pull-ups around the house dips are only in the basement unfortunately are you grabbing like the edge of like uh like you know when you got to do like one of these numbers here like alex honnold yeah you gotta do alex honnold pull Well, then you got to just be facing death at every single moment. He doesn't have the medulla.
Starting point is 02:03:07 Hang it by your fingertips. He doesn't have the medulla amblongata, right? That's the thing that gives you the emotion to feel stuff? Yeah, missing it. Alex Honnold doesn't have the medulla amblongata. That's what I've learned, right? Nope, neither that or the amygdala. I think it was the amygdala.
Starting point is 02:03:19 Yeah, there it is. You get it. What's the difference? Great handshake. Alex Honnold, great handshake. Strong for him. Oh, my God. Don't doubt it. What's the difference? Great handshake. Alec Arnold, great handshake. Strong for himself. Oh, my God. Don't doubt it.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Adrian Peterson and Alec Arnold need to have a fucking handshake thing to the death. Just see how it goes. I think that Arnold guy might be able to get him. General, let's dive right into this. Okay, every week we're going to have the General's Top Five. We got a graphic made for it and everything. I mean, look at this. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Do you like this? Do you like this? It's looking good. I like it. Okay, we got your AC company in the back. Obviously, we got you with your war cap on whenever you're fighting against the Big Ten, which was the first big conference during COVID that said, we're not going to play. And you said, oh, is that right?
Starting point is 02:03:55 Well, we're not going to take that. And you rounded up the troops, went to Chicago, and were picketing outside of Kevin Warren's office and brought football back. Now, there was a political campaign where somebody said, I say football. But we all know who did. It was the General Bob Carpenter. And then you with the American flag as a Buckeye. This is a beautiful graphic Dirty put together.
Starting point is 02:04:14 Are you okay with this as we go forward? I mean, Coach, it has Ohio State Buckeyes, but most importantly it has America. Because if you're not American, then I don't think you'd be watching this show, Pat. So this is what we're all about here. But we just watched Band of Brothers this summer with the kids. We're all about infusing patriotism into our house. Okay, I appreciate that.
Starting point is 02:04:33 I will say pretty international program here on YouTube, but I do appreciate everything we got cooking here with the General's Top Five. Let's dive into it. This is your show. We might interrupt. We might ask some questions, but we're hoping that this becomes the gospel yeah for college football rankings into the floor is yours general all right coach so i got my top five that we're going to go with and then i want to find like a dark horse but no one likes the term dark horse so i'm going to find my we'll call my vince carter riser someone that can come out of nowhere and just put one down on you
Starting point is 02:05:06 at the end of the season. So kind of lurking outside. So we're going to start with the top five first. We're going to start, and this is not besmirching his team because I know a lot of people on game day pick them to win the SEC, be in the national championship. Nick Saban has done a great job at Alabama, but I think they're the third best team right now in the SEC,
Starting point is 02:05:27 whether it's Jaden Milrow, Ty Simpson, Tyler Buckner. They've got some issues with the quarterback position, and the thing is, Nick Saban could always coach his way around every other school in the SEC, but now there's some other cats on the block. Kirby Smart's there. You've got Brian Kelly, so I'm looking at Bama as my number five school. Seems like you just gave away a couple of the other schools that are going to be in this top five, but I am excited about that.
Starting point is 02:05:53 I love this take by you. I was one of the people, though, that had Alabama going on a run. And the only reason why we're doing that is because we just assumed Saban ain't going to let this shit fly. He's not going to go peacefully into the night. Did that weigh on you at all, putting him at five or ranking him how you rank him? He's the best coach in college football history. It came into it immensely, but for a long time.
Starting point is 02:06:13 He was the king. He had the best players, and he was the best coach. I'm going to tell you, you don't add a quarterback after spring ball unless you watch spring ball and said, we need a quarterback, and they still hadn't figured it out yet. Maybe it's Jalen Millereau, and he does a great job. But there's going to be some growing pains, and their schedule is tough, and I don't think this is going to be as quite an easy a path
Starting point is 02:06:34 as it's been for them in the past. Who do you got at number four, General? All right, number four, we're going to go right down the road. I mentioned Brian Kelly. I thought it would take him a little bit longer. Last year they were ahead of schedule. The LSU Tigers are coming in at number four. They've got a returning quarterback in Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 02:06:51 They're a very, very talented squad. We're going to find out about them this weekend. I mean, they might go from number four to number two, or they might fall out a little bit depending on what happens because they're playing Florida State, who I think is really stinking good. And keep in mind for this guy, you may not know about him, Harold Perkins. He's an outside linebacker, kind of a rush dude. He reminds me a lot of Micah Parsons.
Starting point is 02:07:14 Not quite as tall, but a dude that can really mix it up, and they're going to need him to play big. But I'm telling you, LSU has always had talent. My brother played for Brian Kelly at Cincinnati, worked for him at Notre Dame. The dude's a heck of a football coach. He may not be the warmest personality. He may have some quirky stuff when he gets in front of folks, but the dude can coach some football.
Starting point is 02:07:33 Go ahead, AJ. What do you think about Brian Kelly having a No. 4-ranked team in the country in general's eyes just this quickly into his LSU tenure? I mean, I'm curious, Bob. What are, like, the other pundits around college football? Do they have LSU this high? Or a lot of them have them, I would guess, a little farther back. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Saban's always been able to dominate. They should watch. They used to always dominate the SEC West because he was a better coach. He had better players. LSU has been right there with talent. But BK is a heck of a coach. And so a lot of people have them right around the same place. And you know what?
Starting point is 02:08:04 To me, I'm going to give it to LSU because they've got the returning quarterback. They were on a run last year. LSU was on a real run last year and then they lost Texas A&M, I think, or something, a week before the SEC championship. There was a chance they were going to get really sneak in.
Starting point is 02:08:19 Daniels got hurt and he couldn't play, or he did play in the SEC championship when the backup came in. In another year, Brian Kelly and his family around the LSU program and their culture growing I don't think that's a bad pick at all now I still have Alabama over LSU who do you have a number three all right number three we are going to go to the Big Ten we're going to go up north and I know a lot of people in Buckeye land may not like this pick but listen Jim Harbaugh's been fantastic they've done a good job. They're back-to-back Big Ten champs.
Starting point is 02:08:47 They've got J.J. McCarthy coming back. Now, I know that Harbaugh is suspended for the first couple games. I don't think it's going to matter. They've got ECU to open up the season in a very soft non-conference schedule. So, with the run game that they have, I think they're going to be fine leaning into Blake Corum and Donovan Edwards. They'll be all right. Yeah, but what about him not coaching?
Starting point is 02:09:06 That was a baseball bat to the shins. He said, listen, I think I broke my arm one time. I missed six games. He said, the other time I had a shoulder, maybe I missed two games. He said, but tell me I got to miss three straight games. People are saying there's a slap on the wrist. You might as well just fucking punch me right in the face 100 times. I got to miss three games?
Starting point is 02:09:23 Football game? What a consummate football human being football guy through and through and they're saying that it's not going to be a big deal with him being gone who cares bob well listen i mean he's having his dad coach i think his brother john is coming into coach labor day the ravens are off and he's got the whole crew taking care of this doing whatever he can they're mixing this thing up they're gonna stir the pot a little bit. Listen, it sucks. Every coach wants to be out there coaching, but you know what? You look at the schedule.
Starting point is 02:09:49 They should be just fine, Pat. AJ, they lost to TCU, lost by 55 in a college football playoff. Ipso facto, are they in trouble? I don't know. Bob, you think they're going to be able to continue to run over people? Jesus. I think they'll be able to run the football.
Starting point is 02:10:05 That's all college football experts. Joe Moore. Joe Moore Award, too. They got it, I think, up there. Their offensive line has been tremendous. They've been pounding the rock. How's their defense, Bob? Well, TCU, they kind of outsmarted themselves, man.
Starting point is 02:10:17 If they would have lined up, ran the football, they would have been fine. They started getting some weird stuff going on. They should have just stuck with what had got them there, which is what they'll do all year in the Big Ten, and they'll be all right. Their offensive line is really good, and their defense is stout. Okay, it all comes down to that final game pretty much in the Big Ten, it feels like, even though Ryan Day is like, do we have to? I mean, with the way things are going, maybe we play a little earlier in the season.
Starting point is 02:10:38 Who's number two, General Bob Carpenter? All right, back-to-back defending national champions. They lost, well, listen, they lost their guy. They've lost a lot. They still got Kirby Smart. We'll see what Carson Beck can ultimately do. But I've got the Georgia Bulldogs sitting there at number two. And, Pat, for no other reason other than this, I'm a big fan of history.
Starting point is 02:10:58 No team has won three straight national championships in the AP era. You have to go back to the 30s with Minnesota when they won it before the AP was actually voting. It is incredibly difficult to string together three consecutive seasons of greatness without faltering. They don't have the toughest schedule. You've got Tennessee on there. They're going to have to face the SEC West champ, whether it be Bama.
Starting point is 02:11:21 I think it will be LSU. But it will be a hard road. It's not a question of who is if they'll lose, but kind of maybe who will pick them off because at some point you're going to have to have a down game. Do you hear Kirby Smart talking in the locker room? I've heard him. Listen, keep in mind, if they would have had Adam Venteri kicking
Starting point is 02:11:39 for the Ohio State Buckeyes last year, the Buckeyes would have been pushing through that game. Maybe Pat McAfee on the whole getting that that thing down, laces out, Dan, and we would have been good. I'll tell you what. It would have been a great conversation, me and Vinatieri jogging on the field for that particular case in Georgia. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:11:53 In Atlanta. Long ball. 52, I think. What was it? 52, 53? How long was it? I thought it was 40. No, it was 50.
Starting point is 02:12:01 40, 49. It was a very makeable kick. It was tough, but makeable indoors, climate control. Bob, actually, we were doing a simulcast, and right before he kicks it, I said, if this kid makes this, this is one of the greatest kicks of all time. It just felt like everything was kind of stacked. It was so loud.
Starting point is 02:12:16 So loud. It was a 50. 50 yards, so far away. I mean, we were standing right under the hoop, or right under the goalpost, obviously, and it's just like, could barely see the kid. His body language is jogging on. It's like, this guy.
Starting point is 02:12:30 If you make this, you've got to be a stone-cold killer to make this kick right here, and he didn't. But you go watch the national championship, you can see how Ohio State Buckeye fans were thinking to themselves, wait a minute. What are we even talking about? Which I assume leads us to number one, even though we just found out who the quarterback is today.
Starting point is 02:12:47 That's right. Number one in your rankings, I'd assume, unless Bob's going real heel in the Buckeye State. No, no, no. We're going to go with them because they should have pulled out that game. They played well enough to win. A guy who you're familiar with, his son plays wide receiver for the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Starting point is 02:13:03 That's Marvin Harrison Jr. They are number one. And I'll tell you this, Pat, his dad is a Hall of Famer, familiar with his son plays wide receiver for the ohio state buckeyes that's marvin harrison jr they are number one and i'll tell you this pat his dad is a hall of famer and i will say this today on here we can pull the tapes 20 years from now when you're doing that biopic about how pat mcafee and the whole crew changed sports medium oh yeah marvin harrison jr will be a better player than his father and that is saying a lot given the fact that his dad is a Hall of Famer and one of the best wide receivers ever to play the game. The dude is relentless. He catches more balls every single day than anyone I've ever seen.
Starting point is 02:13:34 We used to watch his show. I know AJ's seen it. It's called Larry Bird, a basketball legend. They talk about him just shooting balls in the rain every day, getting like a thousand shots up. They have this deal called the Monarch. It's like an automatic ball feeder. It's like some sort of – you don't push it past a computer.
Starting point is 02:13:49 It's like a robot. It basically is a quarterback now. It'll drop the ball in, angles, everything else. It can probably hunt you as a human. I mean, it'll shoot a ball at you and kill you. That's why I'm happy we got that. We need to get one. We need to get one on our side.
Starting point is 02:14:03 Marvin keeps it happy. He buys it whatever it needs, but he's out there every day on that thing. need to get one. It is. It's on our side. Marvin keeps it happy. He buys it whatever it needs. But he's out there every day on that thing. I walk into Woody without a doubt. Marvin's out there catching balls by himself with somebody else. He is the most dynamic player I've seen. I'm going to say he's the best player in college football. I talked to some of the scouts at the pro day.
Starting point is 02:14:19 I go, what did you grade him? They're like, gave him a perfect. Like, best player I've ever scouted. He has no weaknesses. He's an unbelievable human on top of being a great player. He's the type of guy you want. He's the leader. He's who Kyle McCord is going to be thrown to, and they have an improved
Starting point is 02:14:34 defense. Our guy James Laurinaitis is back, all-time leading tackler in Rams history to help coach the linebackers. So I feel much better about that defense, and I'm feeling good about this situation. I didn't know that linebacker room had the all-time leading tackles in two different franchises. I mean, that is incredible to think about,
Starting point is 02:14:49 that group that you guys have just meatheads. But let's get back to Ohio State. Your comment about Marvin Harrison Jr. being better than Marvin Harrison, I think Marvin Harrison would want that. That is what his entire goal is. He has been very confident in the work ethic that he has instilled in Marvin Harrison Jr. and giving him the game. Like, hey, this is how you go about doing it. He's very pride confident in the work ethic that he has instilled in Marvin Harrison Jr. and giving him the game. Like, hey, this is how you go about doing it.
Starting point is 02:15:07 He's very prideful in that. So I think we all watched in awe with that guy with Louis Vuitton cleats on, just taking over the world. Then you hear about his work ethic on the back end, and you think to yourself, this is the perfect scout prospect. You're not worried at all about the new quarterback. He can spin it. Kyle was his quarterback in high school, Pat.
Starting point is 02:15:24 I mean, like, what else do you want? I mean, exactly. Think about that for a second. Put that in your mind. All right? He's got his high school quarterback, a guy he's familiar with. I don't know what else you could possibly ask for in a situation like this right now.
Starting point is 02:15:36 Who's the other wide receiver they're saying is better than him? I don't know if he's better. Mecca Abuka, who's the number two guy on most draft boards right now. Like, Brian Hartline, all he does is recruit five stars and turn them into first and second round picks. It's remarkable. No, that wide receiver. The freshman wide receiver.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Oh, Carnell Tate. Carnell Tate. If you go back, the best thing I was watching, I got AJ on it, BS High. We were talking about Bishop Sycamore. He's playing at IMG Academy out there dunking. I'm like, look at my wife. That dude's the guy everybody's talking about that might be better than Marvin. Marvin said he might be better than him.
Starting point is 02:16:11 I can't believe that yet, but we'll see what happens in the next couple of years. Yeah, Bob, you talked about the defense being better in the second year under Jim Knowles, but what about Tommy Eichenberg? Would he have fit in? I mean, he played last year with two broken wrists and two broken hands, I believe. He would have fit in with the Haw in general fucking linebacker room I love talking to Tommy because Tommy's like talking to AJ because AJ may talk more to you guys back in the
Starting point is 02:16:33 day he would communicate largely with grunts and kind of hand head nods things like that I mean he's a smart dude articulate guy as you well know but Tommy loves to lift weights playing with broken wrists I mean AJ AJ tried to fighty loves to lift weights playing with broken wrists i mean aj aj tried to fight the trainers to get his helmet back in practice one day like that's a tommy eichenberg move right now if i've ever seen one that's the stories that they were telling about aj whenever they're like didn't this guy got bad knees we draft him at five overall well the trainers told him he had bad knees one time and uh it was a wednesday practice and he punched him in the face yeah so this guy loves ball. This guy fucking loves ball.
Starting point is 02:17:06 That linebacker room seems to be one of the greatest in the history of college football that you guys were in. I like the fact that you said, hey, Ohio State's number one, and they're going to have to prove to not be one until I see something. Who is the team, though? Who's the Vince Carter riser who's going up over that French guy, right? Had a tough go after he got done. We learned about it. Had a tough go. Who is the Vince Carter riser, who's going up over that French guy, right? Yep. Had a tough go after he got done. We learned about it.
Starting point is 02:17:27 Had a tough go. Who is the Vince Carter Riser, you think, in college football? The Vince Carter Riser, for me, team, they're right on the edge of the top 10. No one's really paying attention to them. They were a team without a conference for a while. The Washington Huskies. They got Michael Pennington. They're actually 10.
Starting point is 02:17:41 He threw for them was 5,000 yards last year. They went on an epic tear. They're under 10. He threw for almost 5,000 yards last year. They went on an epic tear. They're under the radar. No one's really talking about them. It's all about USC and Oregon out west. But I'm telling you right now, Washington, the Washington Huskies are good. Their defense has improved. And Michael Penix Jr., man, it's like his sixth year in college football.
Starting point is 02:18:00 And if you go back, you might remember that COVID year. He was the quarterback for Indiana, stretching on that two-point conversion right inside the pylon to tick to tuck it in there he's a big time player i'm excited to see what they can do hey pac-12 is packed though like that that was my thing about washington they they forced us to pick a team because i think washington's actually 10 in one of the rankings and ranking we had he was there were 10 ap i think and they made us pick a team that's in the top 10 that won't be ranked by the end of the year and i picked washington i feel bad about i apologize i do apologize for it but also that pac-12 is stacked fucking stacked this year this is the best it's been in a long time and it's going to be gone pretty much next
Starting point is 02:18:38 season it's a wild time over there in the west you can make an argument the top four teams in the Pac-12 with Utah, USC, Oregon, and Washington are as good, if not better, than every other conference's top four teams. And they have some nice depth at the top. And the main reason is they have returning quarterbacks at every school. You look at Bo Nix, you look at Michael Penix Jr., Caleb Williams, my man Kim Rising, who is the all-pro meathead quarterback. Dude hasn't met contacts he didn't like. It might be first and 10 in the second quarter, and he's going to put his shoulder down and
Starting point is 02:19:11 try to get an extra yard to set up a second seven as opposed to a second eight. So he's knocked himself out a bunch. But if he can stay healthy, Utah's good. Washington's good. Oregon's good. But Notre Dame. Everyone knows about USC. And Notre Dame's not top five or a riser. Yeah, where's Notre Dame, Bob? I like Notre Dame. Everyone knows about USC. Notre Dame's not top five. We're a riser.
Starting point is 02:19:26 Where's Notre Dame, Bob? I like Notre Dame. I got to see a little more, though. They beat up Navy. I don't think Navy's that good. I really like it. You put the graphic back up. America, Genesis.
Starting point is 02:19:35 You wrote the whole graphic for this entire thing? America. Let me see. Oh, look at this guy. What's that? Oh, the Navy stinks. What's that? I didn't say the Navy stinks.
Starting point is 02:19:44 Yeah, you did. Get out of here, man. You didn't say the Navy stinks. Yeah, you did. You did. Naval Academy. They suck. They can't play football. Support the troops. Listen, it's the first year in the post-Ken Nia Monololo era.
Starting point is 02:19:56 They're working through some things. They'll be better. I love what Sam Hartman can do. I just have to see their receiving core go against some legitimate talent. They've got Ohio State, obviously, coming up in a couple weeks. They've got NC State before that, which will give them a little bit of a push. I like Notre Dame. I love Marcus Freeman, also in that linebacker room with A.J. James, Schlegs, and I.
Starting point is 02:20:14 So, listen, they've got some opportunity there as well, but they're going to have to prove it to me because they have Ohio State, Clemson, and USC. That's a pretty tough gauntlet to get through. Yeah, I like Sam Hartman, though, man. 24 years old, seems to have seen it all. How many touchdowns, Wig? 110.
Starting point is 02:20:31 110. Damn. And now he looks like he's got the Marcus Freeman offense down, and Marcus Freeman obviously loves him, but Notre Dame does have something that every single year it's like, ah, here's Notre Dame again. Ah, here's Notre Dame again. Might be different up there, though, this year.
Starting point is 02:20:45 Could be. Hardman. Might be different up there with a guy under center. So here is the official top five, week one here for the general. Ohio State, number one. Georgia, number two. Michigan, number three. LSU Tigers at number four over Alabama at five.
Starting point is 02:20:59 And look out for Washington, says the general. We appreciate you, boss man. Hey, my pleasure, guys. Looking forward to doing it every week and getting in studio with you, pal. We appreciate you, boss man. Hey, my pleasure, guys. Looking forward to doing it every week and getting in studio with you, pal. We can do the arm wrestling. I don't know, bro. Yep. Do the leg wrestling thing, too, where you lay on your back.
Starting point is 02:21:14 Okay. I wouldn't mind doing that one. I'm okay with that one. That one is right in my bread basket. But I guess if we have to do that, we have to get into your world, which would be a hang. You don't want to necessarily get in there. But we appreciate you greatly. What's the big game you're looking forward to this weekend
Starting point is 02:21:27 obviously the carolinas are battling fsu lsu is on sunday i think that's going to be a big time game utah state iowa yeah that's a big time game there's a lot of good ones going on this weekend there is the florida utah game is another one that could be pretty good utah lost that game last year hopefully for them that won't happen again. But I think everybody's looking at Sunday night. Florida State, LSU, last year that game had massive implications that nobody knew about. This year everybody knows how good these guys are.
Starting point is 02:21:56 And that could be a game that whoever wins it, man, sets themselves up real Nats, Clark, the CFP. Hey, FSU number eight right now. Damn. Florida State's eight right now. That's crazy, isn't it? Their building was on fire a few years back. That's Colorado 20-point dogs.
Starting point is 02:22:11 20 and a half. They said that's going to move late, too, to even more. They think more people are going to jump on TCU. They've got 86 new players. I mean, last year they were maybe the worst team in college football. If Deion wins five or six this year, it's the best worst team in college football. If Deion wins five or six this year, it's the best coaching job in college football. No, but isn't that a good thing? To AJ's
Starting point is 02:22:30 point, I'm thinking the same thing. Like, hey, teams stunk. We got a bunch of new guys. Yeah. Now, I guess it's hard to just kind of build that type of thing, but in college football, you got to build up your new team every single year anyways, right? You got to get it going, but they have a really tough schedule. I mean, you're opening the gate with a team that played in the National Championship
Starting point is 02:22:46 last year. That's a non-conference game for you. So nobody's going to... And believe me, here's the other thing, Pat, you know this. When you make a lot of noise, people like to knock you off the hill. So Deion's been talking a lot. Everybody's going to have their full attention each and every week. I agree. It's going to be must-see TV.
Starting point is 02:23:02 I can't wait to see what they do. And I do believe there's going to be some conversations about old. I can't wait to see what they do. And I do believe there's going to be some conversations about old TCU Colorado on game day on Saturday. Okay. West Virginia, Penn State, Bob. I love that. 7.30 primetime, Saturday night. Catching on NBC, The Cock, I believe.
Starting point is 02:23:18 Peacock, it'll be on there as well. They'll be debuting, I think, their full show with Castle. Pre-game show. Amrob, Maria Taylor, and Josh Perry. Hope they have a great season. Hey, hope you guys have a good season. It's a long one out there. But how do you feel about that Penn State-West Virginia game?
Starting point is 02:23:36 Obviously, I am riding heavy with the Mountaineers. Big-time win for us, obviously. But this might be the year that Penn State is really Penn State, right? Isn't this a big-time year for them if Drew Aller can play a little bit? That's the key. If Drew Aller can play a little bit, they'll be in a good spot. I mean, Clifford had been there forever, and it was just kind of average. People were thinking Aller.
Starting point is 02:23:56 I mean, he's a Cleveland kid, big time arm. He reminds me a lot of Josh Allen. You watch him play. He's faster than he looks. He can pick up more ground. He's maybe not the quickest dude, but he can gobble up yards. He's tough, and he has a cannon for an arm. So if the Penn State wide receivers are good, man, they're stout on defense.
Starting point is 02:24:14 Their own line is supposed to be better, and their running backs coming back are really, really nice. Two running backs almost ran for 2,000 yards last year, both freshmen. So, I mean, they got to – if they can get past week one. Sure. Yeah, it's a tough test. It's going to be hard to get past week one. Big test.
Starting point is 02:24:30 Did you know that the guy I've been saying is going to run wild hasn't even named a starting quarterback yet? Did you know that? I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I mean, either. Yeah, obviously. I said it on fucking Game Day.
Starting point is 02:24:39 He's going to be the guy. I said it on Game Day. He's going to be the guy. What if he's not? What if this is like an Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers situation where he's like, I really like this guy and then they cut him. And I'm like, Gary Green's about to run wild. And they're like, put that
Starting point is 02:24:49 Nico kid. He gets yanked in the first quarter. Oh my God. Impossible. No way. You didn't see the newsletter? What's that? Italy today? They said Nico's not going to go first week at least. Paisan, grazie, prego. I did not see any of that. The only thing I saw was,
Starting point is 02:25:06 has Gary Greeney ever been named a starter yet? And I did some. Hold on. Oh, boy. Well, pressure's on, kid. You've got to win that. Even if you're not playing. That's right.
Starting point is 02:25:15 Even if you're not playing. All right. Well, have an incredible season. We appreciate you, General. This was awesome. Thank you, guys. Have a good one. I like the Vince Carter riser.
Starting point is 02:25:23 Yeah, it's good. Maybe it's the LeVar Arrington riser at Penn State he used to jump up over he has that logo too there's a logo that I think he trademarked so maybe we can't then somebody's going to sue us
Starting point is 02:25:38 which is another hypothesized situation that has been popping up in a lot of conversations in these what happens if blah blah blah What happens if blah blah blah What happens if blah blah blah Well, we had Brett Favre last year. How'd that end up? Good? Perfect. Let's move on. Is that still happening
Starting point is 02:25:54 with Shannon? I think so. I have no idea. But there was that recent update to the possible text messages. Oh, withholding. Withheld, yeah. With the discovery process. Interesting. I think Brett's back in the media.
Starting point is 02:26:07 What's that? I think Brett's back in the media doing shows. Yeah, Brett's doing that. He's doing a show. Yeah, with Whitlock. Whitlock cooked me a couple times. Really? Yeah, I was on receiving end of a Whitlock. He got you good.
Starting point is 02:26:19 Really? He said I was cheeks pretty much, but in a much meaner way. I was like, all right, pretty good little promo there, pal. All right, we appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen, the general, Bob Carpenter. Thank you, Bobby. I enjoy him. I enjoy him. Bob is always prepared, and he definitely consumes.
Starting point is 02:26:39 I told you, his radio show here, he talks about everything going on in Ohio, every sport you could imagine. He watches everything. I like that I asked you a question. You go, every sport you could imagine. Like, he watches everything. I like that I asked you a question. You go, I don't know. I don't know, Bob. We're bringing on the expert. I've got to ask Bob.
Starting point is 02:26:52 Tell us, Bob. I was just trying to bring you in. I was just trying to bring you into the conversation. Shut the fuck up, all right? I'll jump in as I go. But, yeah, you know, I refer to Bob when it comes to a lot of different college football questions. I enjoyed his brain.
Starting point is 02:27:02 Like, Tom Diggs, he loves college ball as well. I enjoy listening to different, you know, texts. Like, Tone Diggs, he loves college ball as well. I enjoy listening to different, you know, takes. Like, he's obviously going to be biased towards Ohio State, we assume. Yeah, should be. Which is fine. Absolutely. Better be.
Starting point is 02:27:16 And to their point, I mean, I love that he's saying, makeable kick. Have to make that kick to go to the national championship. There's no chance. If that guy makes that kick right there, lock him in to be a fucking 15-year NFL vet. First-round pick. One of the greatest of all time. Obviously, you have to make that. Walking on the field, have to make that kick. But also, that's a tough ball to make in that situation.
Starting point is 02:27:37 Is he back? I don't believe so. Who would have thought? I think he might have graduated. I don't know. I Oh, okay. There you have it. Who would have thought? I made him a speed bump on campus. No, I think he might have graduated. I don't know. I almost transferred after my junior year. Nobody would take me, though. It's kind of like Jonathan Taylor's situation.
Starting point is 02:27:52 Go seek a trade? Go seek a transfer? So you just missed two kicks in the first quarter of the biggest game of the year? Yeah. We don't want you on our team, pal. Sorry about it. Oh, fuck. All right.
Starting point is 02:28:00 Well, I wasn't going to come anyway. This would be just testing my water. Coming back after the senior year, that was not an easy jogging back on that field the first few times. Like, oh, this is the scene of the worst day of my life. All these people hate me. This is fun. Can't wait to go kick some balls.
Starting point is 02:28:17 Then you get past it. Then you move on. Hopefully that kid will be able to do the exact same thing. We are coming into that with college football. There's going to be some missed kicks. Some lives ruined. Big zero. There was quite a few. But there will be able to do the exact same thing. We are coming into that with college football. There's going to be some missed kicks. Yeah. Some lives ruined. Week zero, there was quite a few.
Starting point is 02:28:29 But there will be some ones made. Week zero, I didn't see any big-time ones missed. Like fucking Ohio missed one that was pretty important. I think ND had a miss. Yeah, but they were up 44. So they killed them. So, yeah, Navy missed a few, too. But, yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, it's those ones that are just.
Starting point is 02:28:45 Hard to find consistent kickers, isn't it? Yeah. It's not just kickers. It's the whole operation. People forget about that. It's the whole. The holder. The holder, the snapper.
Starting point is 02:28:53 The snapper. The whole thing's not easy. Now, Grant, I'm not saying that it's harder than any other position of football, but it's like there's a lot that has to happen for a successful outcome to happen. And you watch these NFL guys, and you're like, oh, it's simple. It's easy because these guys are making more kicks than ever. It's like, no, you've got to be off that much and your life's over. Yeah, you should think about disappearing.
Starting point is 02:29:14 Especially in college. I assume it's a little tougher than it would be if you're missing a big kick in the pros. No, no, no. It's way tougher in the pros. Well, the pros, the only thing that's – For a kicker? Yeah, because you've got to think about the money, the money, the money. Well, true.
Starting point is 02:29:25 But also you're not like in college, if you're missing a kick, like, like you said, like your life is over. Yeah. College is tough. You're out and about with everybody that hits you every single day. Might be a little easier now for them because they're not out and about as much. They don't go out as much and they have a lot of online classes. So it could be a little bit easier.
Starting point is 02:29:40 I did appreciate being told, like, probably shouldn't get a class for a little bit. I'm like, yeah, no shit. Now, don't go? I haven't been, but I get the narrative that you're saying. I saw all the bottles that were thrown in my car outside, yeah. And I got the messages that I should die. You're right. By the way, probably not paying attention in any of these glasses anyways,
Starting point is 02:30:00 just trying to get by here. But I hope that this year showcases every kicker makes every kick. No misses. Week zero, it's already kind of off to a bad start. Let's swipe that completely off the picture. It's phase zero. I hope every kicker... I would like to make this announcement. It's very selfish. I've forgiven myself for missing those two kicks.
Starting point is 02:30:17 Why wouldn't you? Good. I had. Why is that selfish? Just because we're potentially going to game day week three for the backyard brawl if we, you know, handle when we handle business here. But that's like games week three. Like, there's not a lot. So, like, if we keep this thing tight with Penn State, that's all.
Starting point is 02:30:39 Like, if we keep it tight, you know, and Pitt does their thing, which we assume Pitt will do, like that week three backyard brawl. And I thought about it. I'm like, because I'm promoting that it's happening. I had like a real conversation with myself. Like, do I want to be? Like, that could be a bad. That's not a good memory.
Starting point is 02:30:55 It should be too. Like, don't want to relive that almost. It lives fresher in your mind than anybody else. I had no idea it happened. No, there's a couple people out there I've never forgotten. They will remind me every single time it gets brought up. But also, like, I'm at the point where it's like, yeah, it happened. I apologize.
Starting point is 02:31:10 You guys could have scored more points on the offensive side, too. We're in the fucking world. We're all in this shit together. I'm going to move on. You want to be dead. I understand it. I want to be dead, too. And we move on.
Starting point is 02:31:19 So it's like it has been a long process for that. And I'm, like, genuinely excited to get back for that, especially if I'm able to with game day. That would be sick. Yeah, it would be so much fun. And, yeah, maybe in the past you probably wouldn't know, or not you, but us as a whole wouldn't know, but they do run it every year. Like, it is a thing with the Revis return.
Starting point is 02:31:39 And I didn't know. The Revis return isn't the – that one sucks. The two missed kicks. I mean, that had a tough couple. Yeah. But also, I had a tough couple. Yeah. But also, I had a 51-yarder head to Heinz record. That never gets talked about. Also, it doesn't get talked about.
Starting point is 02:31:50 Those were in the first quarter. When he told me that, I was like, wait a second. Why is everyone so mad here? Yeah, I always have to remind myself of that. Yeah, it was first quarter, bro. Three quarters to play. Playing ops. We had to lead at halftime, too.
Starting point is 02:32:00 I mean, I don't want to just do too much, but I fucking – Pits. I did pits. I mean, but they're want to just do too much, but I fucking... I did. But they were preparing for us for like four weeks, they said. They just, yeah, threw every other game. It was the last game. Was it Shady or Dion Lewis? Shady. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:15 It was Shady and Pat Bostic. Which? Dylan's brother? No, no. This guy's a little bit more athletic than Dylan, but not much. But Bill Ding, then. Pat Bostic, big brain, right? Didn't he have a big fucking brain? Massive cranium. Big brain. Did he call their games, though? Yeah, I do believe so, yeah. Good personality.
Starting point is 02:32:32 I've met Pat Bostic a few times. I'm a fan of the man, but I cannot believe we lost that game. My fault. I've forgiven me. I don't know if West Virginia has, but, man, fuck it. I'm living a much easier life. Bam! Boom. If that would have won in, it would have been alright.
Starting point is 02:32:47 That's a recent development, by the way. Good. You think you would have forgiven yourself for saying that's recent? Yeah, pretty recent. That's good. You should. First quarter? I mean, I had no idea it was in the first quarter. Well, it doesn't matter. Every play matters.
Starting point is 02:33:03 If you missed four kicks in the first quarter, I wouldn't remember after halftime. If we had deleted halftime, it doesn't matter. Every play matters. That's right. If you missed four kicks in the first quarter, I wouldn't remember after halftime. Well, if you get a chance to redeem it. If we had to leave at halftime, I wouldn't remember anyway. Yeah, but if you get a chance to redeem yourself at the end, those aren't even talked about. I did not. I did not get a chance to get back at you.
Starting point is 02:33:16 There you go. Still had to punt, though. You know what I mean? Still had to go out there and punt. Oh! Oh, man. Got it. Oh.
Starting point is 02:33:27 Well, that's not an indicator of anything. No, not at all. We're not going to let that bad mojo think about anything that we just talked about. Absolutely not. I'm getting cooked for saying that that wasn't a wild request to ask for Jalen Waddell for Jonathan Taylor. By who, Dolphins fans?
Starting point is 02:33:40 I think idiots on the internet. Yeah, like the, so Jonathan Taylor deserves to get paid $17 million a year by stingy-ass Jim Irsay, okay? Right now, coming off his worst year. Still has another year on contract. Just a couple months ago said that he was going to play through his contract. When everybody had money in the calendar cycle, he said, I'm playing here, I'm finishing my contract.
Starting point is 02:34:02 Then he comes in, holds the team hostage, does his whole thing, and hey, get your money. So he deserves to get paid that amount of money, but it's a wild request to ask for the number two wide receiver for a team in return. I don't understand how that makes sense. At all. I don't know how that is a thing.
Starting point is 02:34:17 And also, yeah, that's how business goes. When you're trading something, it's like – Negotiating. What do you mean? You've got to throw something out there so they can counter. Throw everything at them and then say of course it's going to be ridiculous and they're going to come back with something, hopefully. I'm getting cooked for it.
Starting point is 02:34:32 People are saying I'm cheeks. That's going to happen. Especially next week. The good thing is it goes into the weekend. Well, then game day. Oh, fuck. It's going to be so loud next week. NFL Sunday, though. That wipes away everything. Yeah, then overreaction Monday, we so loud next week. NFL Sunday, though. That's just a... That wipes away everything. Yeah, then overreaction Monday, we're in.
Starting point is 02:34:46 Yeah, exactly. The season, you forget just how many days are after another. Where, like, everything from the day before gets wiped out tenfold than it was in the offseason. By the way, YouTube TV did a little preview of the quad box. Saw that. College football this weekend. It's going to be awesome for us. I got you zeked up.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Oh, it got me zeked up. Saw the photo of it. I got all zeked up. Do we get to pick the games? I think for NFL, you do. You didn't for college, but I think for NFL, you do. Oh, they just gave you the four? Yeah. Was Jacksonville State one of them? Yes. Hey, let's remember that. We are on Jacksonville State until
Starting point is 02:35:19 proven otherwise. Every game. You, Tev, Vandy, you, and then I can't remember what the other one was. Notre Dame. No, Notre Dame was already over. What a good year. But there was only four games on, so it was pretty easy. Dude, I hope Notre Dame goes on a run so we can.
Starting point is 02:35:35 Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Trot fucking Lou Holtz's ass out to a press conference right over here. Just right. Start the second hour with it. Hey, welcome back. Now, ladies and gentlemen, let's go over to Coach Lou Holtz second hour with it. Welcome back now. Ladies and gentlemen, let's go over to Coach Lou Holtz talking about Notre Dame and you. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:35:50 Oh my God. Fingers crossed. Need you, Sam. Come on, Sam. Need you, Sam. You talk to Freeman at all? Marcus Freeman ever? Yeah. Talk to him. Not a ton. Does he ever come on this program? Yeah, I did. I thought he did once. I don't. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I thought it was after the season
Starting point is 02:36:06 Where he was talking about it So Zito just said that's 100% on us We were actually giving his contact information That we never hit him up That's kind of our problem I think I sent you their SID's number A long time ago Which goes back to the point of why we wanted to go to a network
Starting point is 02:36:21 It sucks hitting people up saying Hey would you like to waste valuable minutes of your life talking to us like that is not a fun thing i think if you ask any show that happens that is the most uncomfortable part of it all like getting people to come on the show but we enjoy the shit out of talking to people it's a massive part of the show so espn having to do that is great now that whole department has been a full boy oh boy full conversation as well good people good people great people great people right well this is just what happens in the booking department we have we've had a couple bookers we've run through a couple bookers because this has been
Starting point is 02:36:57 something that i hated for so long i don't like cold texting people sending dms hey will you come on the program it's uncomfortable uncomfortable because that's a big ask that you're doing that. So we're told, oh, you get a booker. This is how this whole thing goes. So then we hire a booker. Pay this booker more money than we've ever paid anybody. Myself included, this booker. It's supposed to change our lives. Give us a list of a thousand
Starting point is 02:37:18 people you want to have on the show. Okay, so that gives them ten days to kind of do their thing as we're putting this massive list together. Then it turns out, nobody that actually wanted on that list is available but if we do this conversation with number 1500 on your list we might be able to get number 20 so it's a lot of that type of stuff you know it's a lot of like so then you're like all right i'll just do it myself is that how it goes like yep that's exactly that is exactly how it goes. See, you're wasting our money. I'd rather hear Conor talk than this person.
Starting point is 02:37:50 What do they say when you give them a list of 1,000 people? Like, hey, we love your list. We really do. Unfortunately, no one is available on that list. We'll get to work on it. Yeah. And then we want to map out a path to get you number two. So number two's publicist is this person,
Starting point is 02:38:06 who also reps this person, who has a book coming out in two weeks. You've never heard of them. Their book will not sell more than 100 copies. But to win over the publicist, you talk to this person, then the publicist might pull some strings, and you'll be able to get there,
Starting point is 02:38:20 and then you'll be able to do this. And it's like, oh, this is a racket. Yeah, it sounds fake. A lot of them might. A lot of them might do this, might do that, could have. You got to play your cards right. Yeah, it was ridiculous. Yeah, it was funny.
Starting point is 02:38:30 And you know how I really talk to suits is really, I mean, I have a lot of patience with suits. That is something I certainly have. Buddy, these people's brains just got to explode whenever I start talking. What are you laughing about, Pac? Pac heard a couple of them oh my god let's just cut the shit yeah they're the worst let's just cut the shit i don't have time to do this call four times so i'm just going to get right to this you need to stop disrespecting zito okay when zito gives an answer it is a real answer and we would
Starting point is 02:39:04 like it to be treated that way because we're not running in circles with you. Let's just get to it. Then all of a sudden I walk away and there's just a dead silence on the Zoom and Zito's sitting there. What's up, guys? It is awesome. Want to move on?
Starting point is 02:39:19 What do we want to do? Done here? No, it is. That looked like it went in. It did. So you're telling me Orszalowski's really in a movie with Denzel? Yeah. He is the equalizer three.
Starting point is 02:39:33 No, it has to be like a commercial. He also did a sweet voiceover for Connecticut football. Oh, so good. And then he's got that shoulder thing. Yeah. Dan Orlowski is in his zenith. He's at his zenith right now. He is.
Starting point is 02:39:45 This is Dan Orlowski's season. Yeah. This is Dan Orlowski's season. Yeah. Dan Orlovsky is in his zenith. He's at his zenith right now. He is. Yeah. This is Dan Orlovsky season. Yeah. This is Dan Orlovskisen. Yeah. That's what we are in right now. We need to know Orlovskisen starts now and it goes to March. That's right. And we are just in the middle of it.
Starting point is 02:39:57 Yeah. And now he's an actor, a model. What? A salesperson. What? Who's that dude that wore the blue shirt that enjoyed a little cacaña but he sold every product on it? Billy Mays. Billy Mays.
Starting point is 02:40:05 Billy Mays. This is the new guy. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, he's the new Billy Mays. He's a model, obviously. He's an actor. And it is Orlovskisan. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback guru, offensive NFL football expert, from ESPN, Dan Orlovsky.
Starting point is 02:40:25 Yeah, Dan-o! Dan-o, Dan-o, real quick. Hey, the boys can't get a heads up that you're acting like fucking Denzel Washington, dude. Let's go. Yeah. Let's go, Dan-o. I should have sent you a subtle text message bragging about that.
Starting point is 02:40:39 Yeah, my bad. That's on me, coach. I have no idea. I have no idea. Dude, when CAA sent me the text, I was like, are you serious? I have no idea how I ended up there type of thing. You know, like I'm in a movie promo with Denzel. Oh, promo.
Starting point is 02:40:55 That's not an actual scene? That's not in the movie? Wait, what? I do not believe so, no. Not that impressive. Still something with Denzel, though. Still something with Denzel though still something with Denzel did you have to take an acting class did you watch a YouTube
Starting point is 02:41:07 because your facial they say acting is in the face your emotions were fantastic unreal yeah I think I got carried by Stephen A for the most part I didn't do much dude like Stephen A had like nine lines I had like two or three we were there for an hour
Starting point is 02:41:23 pretty uh no acting class though. I just kind of. Oh, winged it. Just winged it. Oh, this guy's a natural. This guy's a fucking natural. Go ahead, AJ. What'd you ask him?
Starting point is 02:41:31 Did you get to talk to Denzel at all? No conversations with Denzel. What the hell? Are you in the same place as him or was that shot? Probably. Oh, that was like, that was like, like, I don't know like a computer generated. Oh, man. Come on.
Starting point is 02:41:49 I thought there was a chance you'd actually get killed by Denzel in that whole thing. Good acting. That's great acting. That's great acting. How about this big guy here that played Aussie Rose football sitting right four feet from you? Did you think about crossing him a little sideways or what? He wasn't there either. It was just Stephen A and I. What what everything else is the actual what is real
Starting point is 02:42:08 hollywood and their tricks bro they spent three million dollars on this thing and it's not in the movie it's just a promo did they really spend that much money on it you're telling me everything's computer generated what are we talking about the tech had to go something pretty bananas that budget i think it's like the way they had they go something pretty bananas that budget i think it's like the way they had they had so many different cameras there i think it's a relatively because they were they were like computer generating the shot almost live like we we were able to see it as it's being shown as the promo almost live so i don't think it's you know that difficult for them this guy's acting with a monitor unbelievable so good wow it's very difficult like that right there
Starting point is 02:42:44 how is that bro the emotions that you were showing while talking to a tv screen now that we're learning truly remarkable you're a thespian you're a real thespian yeah yeah i i i feel like you guys are mocking me pretty usual oh my god. I'm going to say something nice to this guy. Bro, you're in a fucking piece of content with Denzel Washington and Stephen A. Smith. Yeah, trust me. Trust me. I have no idea how I, again, I have no idea how I ended up in there, but I was happy about it. Because you're a good actor, Dan.
Starting point is 02:43:17 You earned it, Dan. And you're a thespian. What the hell? Thank you, Dan. What are you talking about today? Where's the Dan wagon headed? What the hell? Thank you, Dan.
Starting point is 02:43:23 What are you talking about today? Where's the Dan wagon headed? Yo, we talked about the Jets and the Cowboys today for the three millionth time in a row. Dan gets one feet with Denzel all of a sudden. I'm done with this shit. It's acting with Denzel. You guys see what I'm doing in my spare time? I think we're doing some Deshaun stuff.
Starting point is 02:43:46 I think we're doing Richardson. And I don't know if – oh, you know, actually off of your show. Your show is going to be on NFL Live. Stop. Look at us. You can die happy. What did we do? Because the stuff with Josh Allen and, like,
Starting point is 02:44:02 when he talked about that whole sequencing thing and that Anthony Richardson had gone that. So, like so we're going to do a little bit with that. I think we're doing a little bit of Kenny Pickett. You're welcome. A little bit of Patriots. Can you stop talking about Kenny, please? Too many people are talking about Kenny and the Steelers. Everyone's going to ruin it.
Starting point is 02:44:16 Talk about the Patriots. Slow it down is what Diggs is saying. Too much chatter about the Pittsburgh Steelers. There was no chatter before training camp. Now everybody's on the guy with two gloves, Dick. I don't think us talking about him has any impact on their wins and losses.
Starting point is 02:44:30 That's why you're a Euro and we're not in scenes with Denzel. Did you change your ex bio? Oh. Acted with Denzel Washington? Maybe I should throw something out in there like was an equalizer three with Denzel Washington? Yeah, what do you mean? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:47 Maybe I should throw something out in there like, was an equalizer three with Denzel Washington, 72-time Grammy winner, Academy Award winner, whatever it is. LOL. Obvi. It was Liddy. Yeah. No cap.
Starting point is 02:44:58 No cap. But all it does bring, you know, like the back of the end zone thing was 15 years ago. All this does is continue to bring that to the forefront that's good that's not a bad thing yeah run from it bud well your husband to a cool chick we agree with that dad to triplet boys that's a factual statement and lenny dog talk lenny's dog lenny's a dog who is lenny a dog no lenny's my daughter lennon okay of course of course of course she is a dog though yeah, Lenny's my daughter, Lenny. Okay, of course, of course. Of course, she is a dog, though.
Starting point is 02:45:26 Same name as dog. I was saying D-A-W. Yeah, W-J. W-J as well, same name. Retired, yep, absolutely, Lenny. I got rocks. You have an axle over there. Retired 12-year NFL quarterback.
Starting point is 02:45:36 End zone should be 11 yards. Good joke. Follower of Jesus Christ. Hoorah. You followed 971 people, though, so so jesus i guess would be 972 there come on i do i do love what you got going on hey how about your fucking billy blanks what's his name uh billy mays billy mays shoulders thing getting properly captioned by you perfect that was a perfect ad you should feel very proud of that. There's so many people
Starting point is 02:46:05 who took what my initial line was seriously and were like, here's my chance to roast Orlovsky. Blows my mind. Guys, I'm completely aware that I threw 15 touchdowns in the NFL. That is why I'm able to make the comment
Starting point is 02:46:21 and laugh about it. But everyone's like, oh, really, Dan? Your arm's sore for 15 times? I'm like... That's awesome. Dan, who cares? Let that number run up. I think you might have the biggest post in extra Twitter history that actually has hashtag ad in it.
Starting point is 02:46:38 Normally, that just literally, normally it torpedoes it. The algorithm sees it like, all right, yeah, they ain't giving us any money. Boom, we're out of here. That thing went the opposite direction. You should feel good about yourself.
Starting point is 02:46:51 You start wearing blue polos. Maybe try a little Colombian Bam Bam. Maybe get yourself on QVC or the Home Shopping Network. All of a sudden you're up on Shark Tank all of a sudden. Maybe you are missing out on something. And then on the other hand, maybe you need to start reading more scripts. Maybe you need to start being a thespian.
Starting point is 02:47:09 Maybe you win yourself a Golden Globe or an Oscar or something something like that and i know it is orlovskisan and i know we're about to see you on tv for six to seven hours a day for the next seven months but think about working in these other things that you're very good at pal alongside the modeling as well what thank you what actor i have an actor in mind that i i kind of look like who do you think i look like that's an. I'll give you one hint. Michael B. George. Wesley Snipes. Beetlejuice. Who's that little one in Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 02:47:33 I can't. I can't describe. Sorry, who was it? Who said Wesley Snipes? Who said Wesley Snipes? Is that Boston Connor? No. No, it's AJ right there.
Starting point is 02:47:44 Right in your face. He actually said Beetlejuice, so you know who that is. That was not good. A little further off. I don't know. Who do you got? Who is it? No, dude.
Starting point is 02:47:53 I'm not saying it now. I'm not saying it now. Are we going to hate him? Hopefully, at least going to hate him. Skinny Jonah? Ethan Hawke. It's Brad Pitt because he eats and talks at the same time Ethan Hawke
Starting point is 02:48:06 Oh yeah I forgot about that The whole eat chips Who's the actor from I think he did like 13 hours I want to say and he's also in the office James Franco John Krasinski Fuck off
Starting point is 02:48:22 Are you kidding me? Go to hell. Hey, look up Paul Giamatti. Boom. And you're welcome, by the way. All you guys are talking like you're tens, dude. All you guys are talking like you're catches. No, we're not.
Starting point is 02:48:38 We're just letting you know that. Yeah, I can see it. Come on. I can see it, man. You guys hit me with Beetlejuice Paul Giamatti That's a compliment at the highest order Both of those huge compliments
Starting point is 02:48:52 Who's the guy, Richard Hell Paul Walter Hauser PWA You son of a bitch Alright, I'm done with it We appreciate you. This has run its course.
Starting point is 02:49:06 We've got everything we needed. Who's winning the Super Bowl right now, Dan? The Indianapolis Colts. Yeah. Wow. Nice. Maybe you do look like Krasinski. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 02:49:18 Yeah. Boom. Here's the SP. Zoom in on his face. All right, I'm out, dude. What? I'm never coming on this show again. Why? I'm never coming on this show again. What are you doing? Why?
Starting point is 02:49:25 I'm never coming on this show again. I didn't say that. Look at the face. Oh, God. Compliment of the highest order. I wish I got PWH more. Yeah. Hang on.
Starting point is 02:49:36 Yeah. Call him back. Call him back. Let's apologize. Let's apologize. Put Beetlejuice up. Put Beetlejuice up. I actually does an incredible Beetlejuice impersonation.
Starting point is 02:49:44 Really? Beetlejuice is, I donice impersonation That's from that one movie That he's wearing That's the movie Beetlejuice with Michael Keaton I think he was talking about Beetlejuice from the Howard Stern show Oh I seen him he got a Jeff Jarrett Tar to the head
Starting point is 02:49:58 Slap nuts Are you calling him back Let's see if he answers we gotta apologize Come on, Dan. Why would BWH be an insult? This guy does one scene with Denzel Washington and then all of a sudden it's our fault that we're trying to just
Starting point is 02:50:15 workshop some ideas. Is anybody in the same room now that films movies? I heard Meet the Fockers, the third one, the two main characters weren't even, they didn't film it together. Really? That takes like no talent. De Niro and an old buddy.
Starting point is 02:50:29 De Niro and Diller. Dustin Hoffman. Dustin Hoffman and De Niro, like they said, were never even filming together. They fought. Chris Nolley says that he feels like you can't use any CGI. Right, you know what he said?
Starting point is 02:50:40 Oh yeah, he's a big practical effects guy. Crashed a plane into a warehouse because it was cheaper. He also said that... Is that Oppenheimer?. Oh, yeah, he's a big practical effects guy. Crashed a plane into a warehouse because it was cheaper. He also said that. Is that Oppenheimer? Yeah, he said it sucks the soul out of the actors whenever they walk into a green screen and have to mimic these things or whatever.
Starting point is 02:50:56 He said, so the way I do it is we will always do movies or whatever. And I'm like, that's awesome. Love that. That's how it should be. Yes. Because you think about Avatar, that's awesome. Love that. That's how it should be. Yes. Because you think about like Avatar. That was just awesome. But you said Oppenheimer was not very good.
Starting point is 02:51:10 I just said it was like two and a half hours too long. Long. I've heard that from multiple different people that are like, yeah, they just say like, yeah, yes, whatever. I mean, I'm sure that if we were to go back, we could really nitpick which scenes were not needed. You know, especially now. There was one storyline that they just went with
Starting point is 02:51:26 in the middle of the movie that ends up, who cares? Didn't matter. Why is this even here, you know? But I think it's that art thing. So, hey, we'll let him do his art. Okay, he makes good movies. He feels like this is a necessity. We'll do it.
Starting point is 02:51:37 But also, three hours in a movie theater with numerous people that have not been outside around others in a long time. That was tough. That was very, very tough. He's reeking very tough. What? No, eating. Bad day. Eating nachos.
Starting point is 02:51:52 Make a movie. Normally, beginning of a movie, you've got to deal with these people. Munching. Munching. There's people, I guess, that do not care if they chew with their mouths open or whatever. My kids won't be one of those. Can't do it.
Starting point is 02:52:09 What's that called that thing it's an actual uh i always forget yeah it's an actual thing mesophobia yes there it is something like that where it's just like a trigger for some people like actual like can't take lip smacking and chewing it boom can't do it i'm one of those people now i've obviously learned to deal with it as you grow older because there's humans that don't feel that way. But every human that was in this movie theater seemingly thought they were at their living room. And this guy had four rounds of nachos. One of them two hours in.
Starting point is 02:52:35 I thought we were done. He refreshed two hours into this fucking thing. And then all of a sudden, he took that thing down. I've never seen as consistent of a flow of nacho, cheese, sand. Nice. One nacho at a time. We're not doubling this thing up. Whole fucking thing knocked out.
Starting point is 02:52:54 It's all you can focus on at a certain point. Two hours in. Oh, yeah. We're two hours in. This thing was supposed to be over an hour ago. No chance. He re-upped in the middle of this fucking thing. And then obviously, on the.
Starting point is 02:53:08 I'm just imagining like the camera shot, if this was a skit, and it just zoomed in on your face, just staring at him every time it goes into his mouth. He was next to Sam, so Sam's right next to me. Oh, I didn't know he was right next to me. So I'm looking right over. How's the movie, Pat? Oh, I didn't see any of it. Well, I missed fucking out from two hours into about 2.25
Starting point is 02:53:24 because I was letting the guy know next to him that we can hear you. Everybody can hear your fucking jaws right now and your lips and your breathing because this guy couldn't breathe in the middle of it. Yeah, four rounds of nachos. I'm happy he was out having a good time. Nolan, this is your fault. You get rid of all those things. We're already done by the movie by this guy's on his third fucking nacho run.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Order a DoorDash. Nachos would be loud even if you knew how to chew. Even if you close your mouth, it's still loud. 100% you're going to hear it. You can limit the sound. Yeah, you can. You got to be considerate. You should be, I should say.
Starting point is 02:53:58 It was a full, he was a one-man band man. I mean, his nose was whistling. Of course. Oh, God, that drives me nuts. Was he farting too? Probably. I mean, moving in the chair made a couple. He probably was farting. It was probably so warm in his seat.
Starting point is 02:54:13 It was hot in there. Yeah, there was no air conditioning. The nose whistle is devastating. We got a nose whistler in here. I don't know. Who? We do. I haven't heard it. Einstein back there. Yeah. He whistles with his nose. Well, I haven't heard it. We do. Einstein back there. Yeah. He whistles with his nose. Brucey?
Starting point is 02:54:27 No, man. Well, he deviated a septum and fell off a cable. Einstein? Yeah. Every time he's out. Really? Why'd you mention that? Now I'm going to hear it.
Starting point is 02:54:37 No, no, no. We just had to bring it to attention. I had water in my ear yesterday. Yeah, how'd that go? Did you see that? I tweeted it at 1040, I think. Late. Got it out. During Hard Knocks
Starting point is 02:54:46 time. That was a big deal. I haven't had water in my ears so long. Congratulations getting it out. Dude, it was huge. What'd you do? 947? No, I did a full... I'm not doing this all night. I just finally got sick of it. Saw stars. The whole thing. I thought I was knocking myself out.
Starting point is 02:55:02 Were you listening to Metallica? Shoot. Take a blow dryer. Stick a blow dryer up out. Were you listening to Metallica? Shit. Take a blow dryer. Stick a blow dryer up there. Dry it out. That's about to come with Virginia Tech. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's answers.
Starting point is 02:55:11 So pumped for those. Tennessee, LSU. Wisconsin. Alabama, I think, has a sick one. Wisconsin. Penn State. Yeah, we're right in the middle of that. Yeah, good luck.
Starting point is 02:55:20 That first one of the year with those fireworks. At Wisconsin. Woo-hoo-hoo. Gabbo running down the ramp. Oh, and his khakis. Look at me. With Cade Klubnick behind him. He's a leader.
Starting point is 02:55:30 Oh, man. That just got me juiced up. I'm zeeked up right now. Ah! That boy. There's another one. One more. One more.
Starting point is 02:55:36 There's two. Buzz? Buzz? Buzz? Buzz? You think that thing ever makes it to a golf course? Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 02:55:44 Not a chance. Absolutely not. Out back. Yeah. golf course? Nope. Not a chance. Absolutely not. Out back? Yeah, short course. That's cool. That should be the thing that we strap the thing to. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 02:55:52 That'll pick up the balls. We tried to do a – We get some cool footage, too. Put someone sitting on there with footage, too. Someone drives it. Someone camera on the back. We'll put some pegs on. Yeah, they'll face backwards.
Starting point is 02:56:03 They got a sidecar for that thing face backwards. They'll try the bag. They got a sidecar for that thing? Yeah. That would be so sweet. Hold on, hold on. I thought we were going to bust the fucking front door out there. Extra ball out here. On this side.
Starting point is 02:56:17 Oh, you're almost there. I don't think so. There's a nice black and gold Jays, too. Yeah, he's pretty nice. From Amazon. Slack. Oh, he's pretty nice. From Amazon. Yeah. Slack. Oh, my God. It looks so good. Beal.
Starting point is 02:56:30 There it is. There it is. Give it a good throw. Where's Beal? Oh, here we go. Nah, we're done. Calibrating. Tomorrow it'll go in.
Starting point is 02:56:37 Oh, yeah. Come on now. Come on. Catch that thing every time. Yeah, you got to really flat hand. Yeah. Yeah. This was a terrible business plan. One of the worst.
Starting point is 02:56:54 Yeah. We should have known when we felt that ball that he was going to stink a quarterback ever since. No, he's good this year. We did know he was going to fall off for a year, though. The football gods were like, do you remember when you tried to ruin playing catch? Yeah. With your little fucking war machine? Hurting kids' hands.
Starting point is 02:57:09 That you were throwing around? Can you imagine how disappointed you'd be if you fucking got that in your stocking on Christmas morning? Give me Cole instead. Exactly. Cole would be easier to catch. It would. Probably would. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:20 Would be. Nope. Look at that. I mean, what are we doing? Things got to mind their own. B Nope. Look at that. I mean, what are we doing? Things got a mind of its own. Look at that. Hey, look at us.
Starting point is 02:57:31 All right, we're on the same page. We're more synced than ever. Let's get out of here, okay? We're back tomorrow. Big thanks to Bobby Carpenter for his top five. I'm going to enjoy that every week. Yes, very much. I didn't know that Vince Carter-Roser thing was happening until we were doing it. Yeah, that was awesome.
Starting point is 02:57:43 It's the general, baby. He's thinking of ideas. I love that. He looks It's the general, baby. He's thinking of ideas. Oh, Bob will love that. He looks more to space. Believe me, he's thinking of ideas all week. I love that. I like him taking ownership of it. It's like, hey, here's what we're looking for, top five.
Starting point is 02:57:54 You do whatever the fuck you want. Need that. He's like, you know, I'm thinking five's good, but also I want to send some love to somebody else. Need a riser. Need a clever name. Vince Carter riser. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:58:04 Yeah, great. I appreciate that, General Bob. Happy he's a part of the team. Bobby Carpenter, Josh Allen. I believe we have a Hall of Fame head coach coming on tomorrow. Come on. Really? Confirmed?
Starting point is 02:58:14 Ladies and gentlemen, former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach. And when you say that, there's only two. That's right. Pretty much for the last, like, fucking 50, 60 years. Bill Kyer coming on. Bill Kyer. That was either, come on. Bill Cowher. That was either him or Chuck. 205.
Starting point is 02:58:29 205, Bill Cowher. Now, last year, I did tell Bill Cowher enough with what he was saying about Jeff Saturday. You know, I was not exactly thrilled with Bill Cowher coming out and burying Jeff Saturday. It's like, Bill, our team is already fucked, bud. Have you watched us at all? Another player gets a head coaching opportunity. Let's embrace and enjoy this. He was sticking up for all the coaches. I respect it, but growing up
Starting point is 02:58:48 in Pittsburgh, that man from Pittsburgh leading the Pittsburgh Steelers in a way that he did. Obviously a hero to all of ours growing up. Can't wait to chat with him tomorrow. What a legend, AJ, old Bill Cowher. He is the man. Everybody knows Bill Cowher, I feel like. You don't have to be a Pittsburgh fan to love Bill Cowher.
Starting point is 02:59:04 So, Pittsburgh, though, he's one of us. He is Pittsburgh. He's a Yinzer that done well, and then he moved down to Carolina. Not a big Penguins guy, but... He was just trying to make the town happy, which is what Yinzers do. When push comes to shove,
Starting point is 02:59:20 what does make you happy? I guess I'll do it. Pittsburgh, and especially Penguins fans, don't get mad if you root for a different hockey team. Let's get to a break. Big shout out to Bill Cowher. Love you, Bill Cowher. I remember the first time Bill Cowher was on the sideline. I don't know if he had Thursday Night Football.
Starting point is 02:59:37 Was he a part of a Thursday Night Football crew at any point? Yeah, he was with D on it, wasn't he? I don't know. I think it was. It was always CBS doing that. I don't know. Did they do a Thursday ever was always CBS doing that. I don't know. Did they do a Thursday ever? No.
Starting point is 02:59:48 Probably. Thanksgiving, maybe. Thanksgiving, maybe, yeah. Might have been just a primetime game of CBS. I don't know. The first time I was on asylum with Bill Carr, I made it a point. Hey, I'm from Pittsburgh. Thank you for everything you did.
Starting point is 03:00:00 And he was like, oh, no problem. I know you from Portland. He knew, obviously, where I was from and everything. And then I just wanted to get him worked up a little bit so I could see the fucker in the game. Yeah, get fired up. Start spitting everywhere. Get that jaw sticking out.
Starting point is 03:00:11 Like Sergeant Sly. Thursday Night Football sportscaster Bill Cowher left. Yeah, they did Thursday Night. Yep. Shout out. Hey, come on, bub. Come on. Let's keep it going.
Starting point is 03:00:19 Now's the time. Keep it rolling. Keep the brain going. Keep the brain going. Let's get to a break. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.
Starting point is 03:00:27 It might change their life. That's a real statement, and we should think about that every single day, especially as we roll closer to the football season and life starts to get better. This brain's still operating, AJ. That's good news. Operating at a high level. Oh, my God, Skace. I love that rap.
Starting point is 03:00:43 See you tomorrow. Goodbye.

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