The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 992 - Trenches Wednesday With The General Bobby Carpenter's Top 5, JJ Watt, Oklahoma Linebacker Danny Stutsman, AQ Shipley and Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about opening night in the NHL, everything happening around the NFL including whether or not Bill Belichick is going to be a...ble to replicate the success he had with Tom Brady, Anthony Richardson and De'von Achane officially going on IR, and much more as we prepare for week 6 of the NFL season. Joining the progrum for his weekly top 5 in college football is Ohio State legend, 18th pick of the 2006 NFL Draft, the man who saved college football, The General, Bobby Carpenter (34:25-54:31). Next, 3X NFL DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, future Hall of Famer, Texans Ring of Honor member, 7x All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, JJ Watt joins the progrum to chat about his brother's continued dominance, how impressive the 49ers defense is, Jalen Carter being absolutely dominant, his thoughts on the London games and teams having competitive advantage by staying over there, and much more (1:03:22-1:57:06). Later, Middle Linebacker for the Oklahoma Sooners, Danny Stutsman joins the show after a massive win in the Red River Rivalry to chat about the importance of that game, not having a letdown after a massive win, his relationship with The Boz, the shirt he's selling to help his NIL situation, what Coach Venables is like, the physicality of the OU team, what Dillion Gabriel is like as a teammate, and much more (1:58:23-2:15:15). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Trenches Wednesday, October 11th, 2023, this program starts now. Football! It's happening tomorrow, but football conversations will happen all day today on this particular program. We can't thank you enough for joining us. We hope you are fantastic. We got two breaking news out of the NFL happening today. Anthony Richardson, quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts, officially going on to the IR.
Starting point is 00:00:31 He'll be out at least four weeks, but they're giving a window from four to eight weeks for his return. Not great news, obviously. We hope you get healthy over the next four weeks. He has a sprained AC joint in his shoulder. Whenever he went down live and in person while watching on TV,
Starting point is 00:00:48 we thought maybe he had a broken collarbone, maybe a torn something ligament in there. Instead, it's a sprain four to eight weeks. Where will the Colts be with Gardner Minshew being the starting quarterback for them five weeks from now, six weeks from now, seven weeks from now? We shall see. from now, six weeks from now, seven weeks from now, we shall see. And also, this
Starting point is 00:01:05 phenom for the Miami Dolphins running back Devon A. Chan has gone to the IR. He'll be out for the next four weeks. Jeff Wilson, though, back off of IR with Mostert, with McDaniel's big brain. We assume the Dolphins will still be a wagon,
Starting point is 00:01:21 but they're losing out on a rookie running back who is on pace to break pretty much every rookie running back record in the history of the NFL. He will sit down now for the next four weeks. There's also a lot going on, and I got all the boys here. The toxic table is here. At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Conman,
Starting point is 00:01:38 what's the shirt there? It's from an Italian restaurant in Chicago. Not exactly sure how to describe the name because I don't speak fluent Italian, but it is kind of a dressed-up mouse, and on the back, it's the back of the mouse. It's an Italian waiter mouse, yeah. You see it? You see the back of it?
Starting point is 00:01:53 I couldn't see it. I don't think we can still see it. You see it now? No, we couldn't see it. Oh, yeah, we saw it. Oh, that's like very clever. It's like front of shirt, front of mouse. Back of shirt, back of mouse.
Starting point is 00:02:09 So it's like, grazie, prego, parmesan, mozzarella, meatballs. I appreciate you wearing that shirt. This is the weirdest shirt you've ever worn on this particular show. This one's up there. Also, the only white shirt I've ever worn on this shirt. Smart, it means you're getting thinner. Yeah. It it's good start to believe in his body a little bit you know i wear dark because uh white would potentially make oh yeah all my potato sack look like a potato sack great shirt today weird i think a lot of people would say weird shirt good not really in your wardrobe
Starting point is 00:02:38 normally no love that you brought a little italian flair entire your face is peeling yeah like horrendously so i feel like such an asshole. Should have put sunscreen on on Saturday. We kind of talked about it. I just said, I'll be fine. I have sunglasses. Why would I need to put sunscreen on? Boy, I should have put sunscreen on because yeah, it's not fun when you just go like
Starting point is 00:02:58 this and you got about 10 pounds of snow falling off your face. Yeah, the good news is sun still has its fastball. It does. And in Texas, we just ate it. Just completely. You chose with your face. Yeah, the good news is Sun still has its fastball. It does. And in Texas, we just ate it. Just completely. You chose with your face to do so.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Right. No hat, no nothing. Nope. A lot of us on our neck and our... Oh, yeah. Bruce Brown's nose is currently charred
Starting point is 00:03:16 to a crisp right now. Yeah. So people in Texas, I'm sure you already know this, put sunscreen on. Yeah. Put sunscreen on. Sun's still doing it out there,
Starting point is 00:03:24 which I think is a surprise To all of us One half of the hammer Cowboys Tone Diggs is here Tone gave us a bunch Of betting trends yesterday Pretty much
Starting point is 00:03:31 It's going to make us smarter Hopefully Have we learned anything Hockey wise About what we need to bet on After first night I got it Not the Penguins
Starting point is 00:03:37 What is this all about We stink again Nick The Chicago Blackhawks Got a 14 year old Leading their team Yeah Guy's smaller than everybody on the ice. He gets an assist.
Starting point is 00:03:47 He's great on our show. The Pens stink. We lose 4-2. We had a 2-0 lead. We stink. I don't want hockey season to be over, Nick. I would like to cover hockey this year. But if the Pens are going to lay this type of crap on the ice,
Starting point is 00:03:59 we're not going to be able to talk about it, Nick. Pat, I don't want to overreact, but it's the same shit new season. Blowing leads, not managing the puck, not being able to score on a backup level goaltender. It's frustrating. Oh, backup level. We're not getting pucks deep with a lead? Listen, we need pucks on net, skates on ice,
Starting point is 00:04:19 hands on hands in the stands. We need celebrations. You need guys that aren't 40 years old. That's what you need. You don't have props. You got a bunch of old geezers out there. The only old geezers you should be talking about is the old geezers that were good for the Red Wings.
Starting point is 00:04:34 The Pantera's over. You know it, Pat. Wow. You're a loser. I will say, hockey had a hell of a start last night, though. A lot of goals, a lot of action. The Vegas Golden Knights celebrated their banner getting dropped. Will the team please go to the slot machine.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I know the hockey people were not happy with all the semantics of what was going on before that Vegas Golden Knights game. But I like the fact that we pulled a sword out of some wet rock. Watch the thing drip. There's a bunch of water. It was like when you go to the gas station, you put the windshield wiper thing in there. They're pulling that sword out. Stoner looked great.
Starting point is 00:05:05 The boys had a night. They obviously go on to win. That game's over about 1230 Eastern time. Tampa Bay gets a big win over Nashville. Chicago Blackhawks beat the Penguins. There was one man on this stage that called the entire thing. Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet, hockey Nostradamus, Terry Schaefer.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Hey, you're 3-0 right now and you're picking hockey games? Let's keep doing that. I should probably stop right here. No, no. Keep riding out there. And joining us every single Wednesday of the season is a guy that used to play offensive line, but now he looks like he's probably a kicker or a punter.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Stakes. His brain is still massive. He's host of In the Trenches. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley. Hey, AQ. Okay, AQ, you obviously played center guard. I don't think you ever played tackle. Maybe in high school one time they put you out there.
Starting point is 00:05:50 But in college and the NFL, your arm's too small to be a tackle. But you're great in the interior of the offensive line. You won a Super Bowl. You coach offensive linemen. You're in the O-line community, I think, through and through, right? Yeah, absolutely. What is this bullshit? Tell me what this is in 2023.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Tell me what this is. We got offensive linemen flopping on primetime Monday night football. Max Crosby's obviously a dog, and he's going to be, you know, doing everything he can to get under people's skins. But when did it become okay for offensive linemen to be flopping all over the place, AQ? Listen, when you sent this to me the other night, I was so disappointed. They say
Starting point is 00:06:29 in the locker rooms nowadays, the old guys, right? The crusty old nets. Yeah, the front yard, yell at the guys. The guys that went through it, the two-a-days, you know, back when football was real and hard. They don't make them like they used to. That's what they say. They don't make them like they used to. Now, what they say. They don't make them like they used to.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Now, that guy got a first down for his team. Great job by him. Big. Which I think everybody's going to be proud of. Great job by him. He got more first downs than some offenses have as a whole. But this is something we don't normally see out of the offensive line community. And this is going to be the new norm, it seems like.
Starting point is 00:07:00 So, congrats to your position. Tough to watch. Tough to watch. Congrats. Offense linemen are getting soft now. Yeah, and skinnier. The league. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Slowly, yeah. A lot of rule changes. Trent Williams, too? League is getting softer. Safer. Soft's what? Safer. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:07:17 What's soft? There it is. It's almost like in the middle of that you forgot what the script was. I mean, you know, it is what it is. I appreciate it. You know, for us, obviously, you want to be done playing. You got to walk around and play with your kids and have a long life after. But, you know, when you're in there, you have that helmet on.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It's gladiator mentality. Yeah, for sure. I do appreciate, though, that Max Crosby probably got a little bit befuddled for that. He took over that game. He's a guy that is a game wrecker. There's another guy that just came into the league out of Georgia, playing for the Philadelphia Eagles and obviously during his draft process, a lot happened.
Starting point is 00:07:47 A lot happened during the draft process, both physically and mentally tasking on him and I assume a lot of different situations, but he got drafted to the right place. There are stats now coming out that Jalen Carter, okay, of the Philadelphia Eagles, has 25
Starting point is 00:08:03 pressures already, nine more than any other rookie defensive tackle in their first five games during the next-gen stats era. Just give him the defensive rookie of the year now. Now, I do believe we're all on the same page, but I don't think those particular stats were something we fully understood. 25 is nine more than any other rookie defensive lineman's ever had in the history of the NFL? Why has he had so much success so quickly? And how do you stop that particular guy? And what type of career can – is he at his best already or is he going to only get better somehow?
Starting point is 00:08:34 Listen, we were talking before the show. During the draft process, I compared him to Chris Jones. He's as good as Chris Jones right now. Right now. At least what he's doing right now. Now, will he hit the rookie wall? Who knows. But what he's doing and their ability and their scheme with the other guys they have on their defensive line,
Starting point is 00:08:51 their ability to get him in one-on-one situations, especially against the center with the mismatch you can have there, it's incredible. He's getting pressures. He's disrupting. He's becoming a game wrecker already. So what is it? He's just fast, strong, quick? What is it?
Starting point is 00:09:04 330, fast, strong, quick. He's got it all. And he's got pass rush moves, which a lot of times rookies come in, they don't have that because they're so used to just being able to press people or be able to run around guys on the edge. But once you develop moves, then you get pretty good, right? This guy's got it already. In college, he was going against a pretty good O-line on Bloody Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, down there in Georgia. I would say that probably helped in the SEC. You're talking about his hand movement, though. Yeah, he's like an MMA guy whenever he's in there already. That's something you see with Mathis and those guys, even with the Gridiron gang, like you're always working those hands. He's just natural. He has a lateral quickness, like you said, the explosiveness.
Starting point is 00:09:37 He's a finisher, too. He's not just getting there. He finishes when he gets back. He's a dog. It feels like Philadelphia is the right place for him to land as well because Sirianni has really brought out the best of him. Also, there's like, what, 15 Georgia Bulldogs there? He's got a lot of people that he
Starting point is 00:09:49 knows, especially with what he was coming through, went through, how it was all going. Him getting dropped into a familiar place and a coaching staff that appreciates everything he's about has obviously made him great. Good for the Eagles. They lose Sue. Dominick and Sue was there last year. Lose Sue, lose Hargrave. What do you got? Now we was there last year. Sign on. Hargrave. Lose Sue.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Lose Hargrave. What do you got? Oh, now we got Fletcher Cox and a guy that they're calling a rhino. Yeah. All of a sudden, they just reload. Good for Howie over there. Well, and like the rookie wall, you guys can probably speak on it more, but I assume it's because that happens to players because they use them,
Starting point is 00:10:18 they overwork them. With the Eagles, their defensive line rotation is so good that it's hard to imagine he hits a rookie wall like everyone else does just because they don't need him for every single down. He can come in and do what he's been doing, just wrecking every single game. Let's talk about game wreckers on the defensive side. Micah Parsons responded to George Kittle with the t-shirt that George Kittle had underneath his pads on Sunday Night Football. Obviously, we asked George Kittle about it.
Starting point is 00:10:42 At first, he said, yeah, it was just on my loop. Didn't know what that was. Then he said he was paying homage to throwback 1994 Niners team that had a similar shirt. And then Micah Parsons answered on Micah Parsons' podcast, where Micah said, you're making this personal
Starting point is 00:10:59 pretty much. My guy, but I'm going to say this. Laugh now, cry later. We got something for that just trust if we see them again just trust and we're gonna put it just like that i ain't gonna put too much on it you're gonna make it personal we could make it personal so then right after micah answers george kittle debo samuel is on the up and adam show with k adams and this is what debo samuel says in response to what micah said in response to what George Kittle did. How personal is it?
Starting point is 00:11:30 It was already personal before the game started. Now, 42 to 10, I don't think you want to see us again. It might be a little bit worse. Okay. So that is something that normally you'd hear players say, that's fun. It's that Debo's just like, yeah, it was our, what are we talking? It's going to get personal. Well, for one side, it felt already personal, which is the Niners.
Starting point is 00:11:50 They're the ones that won by 32 points. Maybe the Cowboys should have made this personal going into the game. But then the Niners don't back off at all. Don't say, hey, it's all good. It's like it might get worse next time. I love everything about what's happening right now, and I enjoy the culture that this Niners team has. Yeah, I love the shit talking, and now it's obviously going to be something else
Starting point is 00:12:08 surrounding this game if they see each other again, which we assume they will at some point down the line. But I love it. Getting on the podcast now, do I love getting on the mic talking about after losing about 32 points? Not so much, but Pars is a dog. I'm sure he'll bounce back. Micah had to talk about it. It's his
Starting point is 00:12:24 podcast. It was definitely going to get brought up. It was going to be something he had to chat about. You're saying he could have said, well, when you win by 32, you can do whatever you want and then just move on to the next one. Hey, like you said, it's his podcast. He can do whatever the hell he wants. I appreciate this shit. Shit, we got to talk about something.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Me too. I am very thankful that Micah's like, oh, okay. Is that what you want to do? Now we know. And then I like that Debo did not back off at all. Kyle Shanahan obviously didn't tell the was like, oh, okay. Is that what you want to do? Now we know. And then I like that Debo did not back off at all. Kyle Shanahan obviously didn't tell the boys like, hey, we just kind of bowed. Debo's like, we beat the shit out of you guys.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Just shut up. How about that? Next time it'll be even worse. And I truly feel like the Niners feel like they're only going to get better and better at this point somehow. Why would they back off? They could say whatever they want
Starting point is 00:13:05 and there's going to be zero repercussions because they could back up literally anything they say. Like, they could say anything about any game, about a wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:13:14 quarterback, running back, about the posing, defense, it doesn't matter. We used to talk about this with Bama fans. Whenever Bama was on their run,
Starting point is 00:13:21 it'd be so much fun to be a Bama fan during that run because you could literally talk to anybody at any point and just say, yeah, my team's going to beat your team's ass. And you had a good shot of that taking place.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And for decades, you just got to celebrate every single week. And then whenever a loss came, obviously it was devastating, but we'll get you next time for sure, for real. Now the Niners are like that. Their fans can talk shit to anybody. It's what the Patriots fans were able to do for 20-some years. Now the Niners, who have not won a Super Bowl with this team,
Starting point is 00:13:47 are seemingly in a position to be able to do the same exact thing. Good for them getting to experience that right now. Yeah, and I love the shit talk back, too. It is awesome that instead of the cookie-cutter answer that we usually get, like, probably shouldn't have done it, all that, nope, standing by it, think it's awesome. And for Micah, I assume there are a lot of Cowboys players that are like, yeah, Micah, you're one of the top five players. I gotta go
Starting point is 00:14:07 block Nick Bosa when we play the 49ers. So if you keep pissing them off, it is going to be worse because I'm not going to have a chance. That reminds me of an incredible time. We were kicking a field goal and it was the end of a quarter. So we had to go to the other end and there was a D tackle for the other team.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I forget what team. I think it was Baltimore or Minnesota. it feels like there's purple in my brain i don't remember was walking next to me and he started shit talking me okay this guy started shit talking me huge dude like 360 pounds or whatever so i'm not one like i look at him i go what's that buddy and then he starts saying something so i just go into the rolodex and i and I start firing back at this guy, right? 360, 330, whatever it is. What's he going to do, fight me in between the quarters? No way he's going to do that. So I keep saying stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I said some pretty – I mean, I was going for murder scene. Head shot. And he was bringing it back. And then all of a sudden, he lines up now, and he's screaming at me through the guard, okay, through the guard, through the field goal thing. And I'm like, oh, shut up. You know, like talking to him. And then set, boom, kick.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Ball goes through. We walk off. Guard comes up to me. Hey, listen, a lot of fun for you, right? Just to be able to say whatever you want. Yeah, I'm the one that he had to take. You know what I mean? I heard you said some good stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah, obviously got to brattle. Way to go. You won the little chirp session. But I'm the one who almost got my knee blown out because I'm the human. So maybe next time, let's not. I'm like, ooh, my bad completely. That's a situation happening here potentially
Starting point is 00:15:34 with Micah, with Kittle, with the Cowboys, with the Niners, because if they had 11 Micah Parsons on the Dallas team, which feels like what the Niners do it feels like that's what the Niners have. It would be a different story. What do we think the top is for the Dallas Cowboys this year? I've become – you said you think they're going to meet later.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That would mean they're getting to the playoffs. I think they get to the playoffs. Okay. So that's what you think. That's good. I think they make it to the playoffs. A.Q. Shipley, you think the Dallas Cowboys make it to the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:16:02 I do not. Why? You think they stink. Who else? I think they've lost a very good football player in Diggs, and I think that changes the outcome on defense. And I think you're starting to see what can happen, right? Like the Niners, they do it to a lot of teams, right?
Starting point is 00:16:19 They put the blueprint out. And if you can attack the edges and kind of hit them where they're soft a little bit there, and then on offense, every time Dak's in this game, everybody, every news media, every pundit, let's see what Dak does on the big game. Does he ever deliver? Jets he did. Jets was a big
Starting point is 00:16:36 game. Tampa. 32 completions, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Do we have the schedule? If I can look at this, I think they make it to the playoffs. It's going to be seven in. I don't think they win a division. Obviously, Eagles take the division, but they get in, and then I guess they're going to do what Dallas does.
Starting point is 00:16:53 They're currently, like if the season were to end today, which is stupid to even say, but they are currently in the seventh seed. I appreciate you saying it's stupid to say, and then you said it anyway. For a talking point, they are currently sitting in the seventh seed. When you look at the teams below them, it's like... Go ahead, run them off. Eight is the Saints. Packers, Rams, Commanders.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Rams. Rams, yeah. Rams, maybe. With Kop back. Packers, maybe, huh, Ty? Well, maybe. I mean, at this point, though, it is kind of like any of the teams that are kind of on the fringe there, seven seed in the playoffs. It's like, do you really want to go and then either have to play the Eagles or the Niners, and you're probably going to get beat by four touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:17:34 five touchdowns? I mean, that's kind of where I'm at with the Packers. I think it's a little bit different with the Cowboys. But if they're in that position where they have to go play the Niners, potentially, if they don't get a bye in the first round, like that ain't going ain't gonna be good for them congrats to the Niners not making the Super Bowl in the last what four years yeah five four years yeah 2019 four years and still being the team that everybody's like you have to beat the Niners at some point yeah you have to
Starting point is 00:17:59 beat the Niners at some point you're gonna have to beat the Niners at some point and what do the Eagles do uh they just continue to win under the of the ring. Win, win, win. Undefeated. Do what you got to do. The NFC seems to have its two top dogs. The AFC, though, seemingly open. Now, I know the Miami Dolphins are up there at the top. I think the Buffalo Beals in London is going to be an outlier.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Hopefully, we will hope that that's the case, and they'll be completely back. You think about what Baltimore just had happen to the an outlier. Hopefully, we will hope that that's the case and they'll be completely back. You think about what Baltimore just had happen to the Pittsburgh Steelers. You think about the AFC side with the Chiefs and what they're able to accomplish. We have no clue what the AFC side's going to do. But what I do know
Starting point is 00:18:37 is that Tom Brady said he saw Bill Belichick and it's the same Bill Belichick. And although New England might be turning his back on Bill Belichick, correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, no, you are not. New England fans have basically said, all right, Bill, we are moving on.
Starting point is 00:18:52 This is what Tom Brady had to say about Bill Belichick on his Let's Go podcast hosted by... Jim Gray. Who asks incredible sponsored questions. Yes, he does. And it sounds like... Well, Tom, I don't know if you've had lunch yet today, but if you haven't,
Starting point is 00:19:10 Golden Corral's buffet is actually only $10.99 this week. So, you know, maybe you throw for 1,099 yards next week if you go to Golden Corral this week for $10.99. And also, Tom, what are your thoughts on... And now what do you think about Bill Belichick? And this is what Tom Brady had to say. He's still the same coach. He's doing the same things.
Starting point is 00:19:32 He's still coaching the same way. So how do you think he's dealing with this mentally? How do you think that he is handling this when everything that he's about is the exact opposite? I think the results are different from what they've been from, but I know that he's still got the same work ethic. He's got the same coaching style. And I think the thing that I think as I watch not only the Patriots, but a lot of other things, football is a hard sport.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It was very different when I was in there because I could control a lot of the outcome. When I'm sitting here watching from afar, I realize, God, there's a lot of variables. There's a lot of things that need to go right in order to have team success. I was a part of a lot of those teams. I didn't take any of those things for granted. I needed a great defense. I needed a great kicker. Obviously, I needed a great coach.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I needed great receivers and a great O-line. If I was going to be successful as a player, I needed a great coach. I needed great receivers and a great O-line. If I was going to be successful as a player, I needed all those things. And I was fortunate to have a lot of those things over a long period of time. The teams that lose, they're putting a lot into it. The teams that win, they're putting a lot into it. It's a relentless sport, you know, and there's nothing is given to you. It's all hard. Losing is hard. Winning is hard. You know, to be in it year in and year out is hard. Winning is hard. To be in it year in and year out is hard. To lose and have a horrible season is very hard. That's from Let's Go on SiriusXM, the Mad Dog Sports radio channel, I do believe, more specifically. But I appreciate the fact that Tom's like, now that I'm watching these games, wow, it takes a lot. I mean, you've got some guys really good in some places,
Starting point is 00:21:04 and then their coaches are just putting them in terrible positions. Then you see some teams it's good, and then the offensive line is horrendous. Then you get a team that's in a situation and they miss a kick. It never happened to me. I remember the ball always going through the uprights. I remember always being put in a position to succeed. I remember my offensive line always making things happen. When a defense needs to get a stop, even on a goal line,
Starting point is 00:21:23 when Russell Wilson is under center and Marshall Lynch is in the hot, they need to make things happen. When the defense needs to get a stop, even on the goal line, when Russell Wilson is under center and Marshall Lynch, they need to make it happen. It's like, I feel like Tom is getting a chance now to look back on how fortunate and how lucky he was for that dynastic run. Do you agree whenever you hear him talk about that? 100%. He's right. I mean, the good teams and the worst team, they put in the same amount of effort, the same amount of work. You've been on bad teams. You've been on good teams. What's the difference? It isn't very much. It's this much. And that's what people don't realize. And obviously, he's having the chance to see that now as a fan. He understood
Starting point is 00:21:52 it as he was going through it as a player, but I think now he's... I don't think he understood it. I think he just... Maybe not. You're right. I do this. I show up. We win. For sure. I do this. I show up. We win. Variable. I do my job. We show up. We win. Now he my job, we show up, we win. Now he's watching these games like, why don't they just win?
Starting point is 00:22:10 He owns the Raiders now. He owns the Raiders now, and obviously they get a big-time win over the Packers. But I can't wait for him to watch the Raiders and just be like, why aren't these guys just winning? What is going on? For 20 years, we were able to just, you do this, you do that, then you win. Now, Bill Belichick was certainly a part of that, where he's talking about his work ethic and how much he's in it.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I think a lot of people around Bill are potentially hoping that Bill will experience what Tom has experienced. Like, hey, Bill, why don't you step away from the game a little bit, get a little different perspective on it, and go like, oh, I beat the game. I did really good. There's nothing more for me to do. Although I feel like Bill thinks he's got to build one more championship team. He was asked about the quarterback situation in his press conference,
Starting point is 00:22:50 and we are in prime time Bill Belichick press conference season. Here's what he had to say about the change of quarterback. Will Mac Jones be starting? Yeah, we're not making any changes. What were you able to accomplish yesterday? Work on some of the things we think will help us in the game. Help us play better football. What were you able to accomplish?
Starting point is 00:23:15 You know, we worked on some things I think will make us better at football. Next question. Why Mac Jones? Just literally just answered it. Okay, didn't I? I'm not doing a song and dance the entire time. As a Patriots fan, you hear Max starting again. What is your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Love it, but I want to go 1-16. So I'm glad we're not making changes because we are on the road to a top three pick. Let's stay on that road. Let's stay the course. To your point, I do think that both of them, Brady and Belichick, probably will look back and not really understand how they did it. I don't know if they even know. I think so, too.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I think they will think to themselves. They'll probably drink. What does Tom drink? Like some avocado? Oh, he drinks tequila. He's a tequila guy. Just from the boat parade. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:23:56 So when he's winning Super Bowls, he'll drink tequila. We assume. I don't know if you saw. It seems like his face has settled in. Yeah. Right? It looks great. He does.
Starting point is 00:24:05 He looks phenomenal. Glowing. Not Bill. He also looks phenomenal. I don't know if you saw. It seems like his face is settled in. Yeah. Yeah. Right? It looks great. He does. He looks phenomenal. Glowing. Not Bill. That's Bill. He also looks phenomenal. I don't know. Bill seems to really. Football seems to be really wearing.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Tom looks phenomenal. I just. There was a couple weeks ago where people were starting to say some things about how Tom looked and everything like that. Would like to let Tom know as of October 11th. You look incredible, Tom. He looks great. You look really, really good, Tom. Congrats. But do you think there's going to come a time where he's having his little avocado
Starting point is 00:24:30 juice that he just squeezed into a cup, and Bill Belichick's probably drinking, I don't know, a whole bottle of whiskey by the time he's done with this entire thing, and they start chit-chatting about how lucky they've been, how fortunate they were, the different wins that kind of came out of nowhere. How about when Vinatieri made that 40-yarder in the middle of a blizzard where physics tells us, still, they have no idea how I made it. It's like that type of came out of nowhere. How about when Vinatieri made that 40-yarder in the middle of a blizzard where physics tells us still they have no idea how it made it?
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's like that type of thing, I hope they have a chance to really look back and reminisce on. But right now, Bill Belichick's in the middle and still trying to create that thing again. Will they ever be able to do something like that in New England? Yeah, once Bill hangs it up, obviously. Oh! Yeah, once he's hanging it up, like you said,
Starting point is 00:25:04 once he's out of the thick of it but like tom talked about like all when he's from the outside looking in you forget about you know all the different variables we obviously talk about sports every day everyone does but like it's humans in there like you talk about in the trenches aaron talks about from the quarterback position you talk about the teams i'll talk about from the secondary like you can call whatever you can put that work in but everybody guys go out there and execute every play in that you know, two to four seconds is going to make a difference every game.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And it's tough. But when you have a guy like Tom who can control so much, you can control the protectors, you can control where I throw to, the coverages, how you practice, you know, what's the coach in the locker room, guys showing up late, not showing up late, like all those different things, and it becomes habit. So they'll appreciate it when it's all finished. Do you think Bill will be able to build one up again?
Starting point is 00:25:46 Not in New England. Because I don't think they'll ever lose enough to get another quarterback. Like, they got lucky with Tom. This is like a Pittsburgh Steelers situation as well. Now, granted, obviously, Pittsburgh Steelers didn't have the dynasty that the New England Patriots had for two decades. And everybody that was in the league, I think, was so baffled how these guys have continued to just win games and how they continue to get lucky when it came to health and injury.
Starting point is 00:26:08 You know, like people get hurt on every team. But whenever key positions get hurt, then it's like season completely off the rails. We had it this year, but then we lost said guy here and we had no chance. For some reason, the Patriots were able to just kind of withstand that for two decades. Now, the Kansas Chiefs I guess are doing the same damn thing how many straight consecutive hosted AFC championship games or something like that every single year five straight AFC championship hosting it since Mahomes has started the first one he hosts it was the last one with Brady in the past and they've
Starting point is 00:26:38 won two Super Bowls and they've had a battle with injuries with Patrick and Travis and they've lost players they lose the best wide receiver in all of football. We're in the middle kind of watching it happen here in Kansas City, so I guess it is possible again. But if you're just meddling at like 13, 14 draft pick, it's going to be hard to get, I guess, the weapon changer that you're
Starting point is 00:26:57 going to need to change the entire program. Bingo. And that's why I want to be terrible. Would you go through another 12 weeks of your team just being absolutely garbage? Without question. I would lose 34-0 every single Sunday for the rest of the year if that meant we got Drake May come April. Because that is the only way to be in it.
Starting point is 00:27:17 We're talking about teams who are in it. Brady and Mahomes are the two dynasties. They're two of the best quarterbacks to ever play. You can't go with a guy who isn't not just good, like exceptional. Like, look at Josh Allen, Lamar, Burrow, Mahomes. That's just one. Jalen Hurts. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Brock Purdy. Hurts, Purdy on the other side. But even just to get to a conference championship game. Oh, AFC you're saying. Yeah, it's like you have to beat all these guys. And, like, I like Mac Jones. Three weeks ago I was a Mac Jones believer, and I still think he could be good,
Starting point is 00:27:46 but I don't think he'll ever be a Josh Allen or a Mahomes or one of those guys who is at the top of the list. What did Dan Orlovsky say about Mac Jones? He said, if you put him in San Francisco right now, he is Brock Purdy. No, he didn't say that. He said, if you play like that...
Starting point is 00:28:02 Why are you putting words in my mouth? Well, he said he'd play like him. Brock Purdy is currently the odds-on favorite to win the MVP in a lot of places. So if he were to play like him, he would be the MVP favorite right now. But now, I think what Dan was trying to say is Bill O'Brien is not Kyle Shanahan. And the weapons that the Patriots have are not what the Niners have. So he was trying to point out that what Mac Jones is going through is vastly different than what Brock Purdy is going through. If you give trying to point out that what Mac Jones is going through is vastly different
Starting point is 00:28:25 than what Brock Purdy's going through. If you give Mac Jones the setup that Brock Purdy has, he'd be playing like that, is what he said. So then he calls us, he goes, why you put words in my mouth? It was like, what did you say?
Starting point is 00:28:37 I said he'd be playing like that. That is... Are you saying he's playing like... No, I never said he's better than Brock. I just said he'd be playing like that. never said he's better than brock i just said he'd be playing like that i'm like dad i don't know if you're making your case better or worse right now but the decision making that brock purdy does is his best trait i think now obviously having the weapons that can get open and having shanahan do his thing is obviously a weapon
Starting point is 00:29:00 but brock purdy is like this he's not getting paid anything so the salary cap can do whatever they can do and then decision making I think is the most impressive part of AQ Shipley I think it's the anticipation I think that's the one thing that you see from him is he knows where the ball is supposed to go pre-snap so he can just sit there smooth get back to his drop put the ball in a spot and let those guys go get it the scheme helps obviously right like they can stick with the run game he's never how come everybody doesn't just do that scheme because you have to have it and that's the other thing we got to talk about with just do that guy do that and it's do what deniers and that's the other thing right like we talk about this so whenever whenever i played
Starting point is 00:29:38 and you're in a pass happy offense right you spend the majority of your time working on pass plays and pass protection all this stuff they spend 90 of their practice working that zone scheme and that is the only way you can get good at it and you have to do it physical like physical practices in season which a lot of teams don't want to commit to right so they have to buy in completely to that whole thing they do it it continues to work and they got a quarterback now that's lightened it up. And he – Practice, too. I mean, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's a big part of the whole dynasty thing, too. We heard about Andy Reid, how he runs practices and training camps. And those Patriot practices were hard, too. I've seen Brady's every condition after every practice. Hell, yeah. Man, everybody can't run that scheme. You heard George Kittle when he came on and talked about him being in it seven years and having a great job by John Lynch as well,
Starting point is 00:30:30 finding those type of players that can handle all those moving parts, all those different players. Hey, Kyle Shanahan, you're putting in seven, eight plays that we haven't even ran. He said on Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, everybody can't do that. Everybody likes certain teams. A lot of young quarterbacks are playing. You can't do that with young quarterbacks. certain teams, a lot of young quarterbacks are playing. You can't do that with young quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So it's a lot that goes into that shit. Brock Purdy, very young, able to handle it all, which is another part of the whole like that thing that Dan Orlovsky said where it's like, come on, Dan-o, although we appreciate Dan-o. You know who would kind of – I mean, just thinking about it now, maybe not Mac, feels like Gardner Minshew would almost be unbelievable in the 49ers scheme as well. We're not trying to get Gardner anywhere but the Indianapolis Colts.
Starting point is 00:31:09 That's true. Hey, we need him for the next four to eight weeks. Honestly, I think there's a chance he goes undefeated the next eight weeks. Certainly possible. You start Minshew in the playoffs or do you go back to A.R.? Oh yeah, if he goes 8-0? We're going Minshew mania, pal. We're running wild all over everything. He's putting balls, right? Oh yeah. If he goes 8-0? Yeah. We're going Minshew mania, pal. We're running wild all over everything.
Starting point is 00:31:25 For sure. He's putting balls, right? Oh, yeah. Right? Right? That's what Gardner Minshew's doing right now. Yeah. Everybody needs to know that.
Starting point is 00:31:39 We watched it live. It makes no sense because he's not that large. He's kind of a little fellow. Physical stature. So he goes into that hud not that large kind of a little fellow physical stature so he goes into that huddle he kind of disappears in there and then all of a sudden walk out you just see the moxie just radiating from within it's like the sun the football gods cast sun down on his beautiful frame and his mullet and his hair going out and he just is in complete control has zero worries at all and then he'll have somebody in his face, can't see it,
Starting point is 00:32:05 and he bends a football around a guy right there. I love this Minshew mania. So good. And it feels like if the first five games is any indicator in Anthony Richardson's career, we're going to have to be paying for a pretty good backup quarterback
Starting point is 00:32:21 for the rest of his career. Let's just keep Minshew in Indianapolis for 10 years or so. Well, Jim Sorge was a great film guy, homework guy. Comes out there, does his thing. Also good at cards. I believe he was a pretty good fisherman. Solid golfer. Good boozer.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Love Jim Sorge. But I don't know if he has what Gardner Minshew has. And remember, Gardner Minshew has been yearning for this moment since when he was in Jacksonville, and he was selling out that stadium, taking the place over, and then boom, full rebuild, get the hell out of here. Let's pivot away from the NFL, although there's plenty of stories to chat about. Let's pivot away from the NHL, okay, because the Pittsburgh Penguins suck again. Game one of 82, a lot of hockey left.
Starting point is 00:33:03 A lot of hockey left. Yeah, that's what I'm saying If they're not fresh now And they can't close out Games game 1 I don't know how They're going to be 81 At the age of 50
Starting point is 00:33:10 You got next year Don't worry Oh Chicago Shut up You guys got the next 15 years with this Conor Bedard guy He's awesome
Starting point is 00:33:17 So sick Leaves the locker room Without his stick Yep They got a camera Just falling around Whoa whoa whoa Need a stick
Starting point is 00:33:24 Where's it at, boys? And then how about when he goes up for the puck drop and the ref goes, all right, boys, this is the actual opening puck drop of Conor Bedard's career against Sidney Crosby and the Penguins last night. The ref, Scott, what's his name? Scott something is the one talking
Starting point is 00:33:40 here. Hey, Sid, welcome back for another season. Conor, welcome to the NHL, man. Hey, guys. It's showtime. Have a great game. It's on. Kelly Sutherland, I believe, is his name. That was a great way to
Starting point is 00:33:55 start. I love the way hockey refs kind of interact, but it is difficult to know that the Penguins probably not going to be in the Stanley Cup, which sucks. Clean win by Sid there. Yeah, I think he beat Conor every single time. That was an alpha moment here. Hey, I'm 35. You are not.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I am taking the puck away from your face. I guess Conor Bedard didn't win any of the face-offs last night. Sidney as a rookie did not either. That's a strength thing I think that's potentially happening. I'm sure he'll figure it out. But what an electrifying start to the NHL. Let's pivot away from the NHL, away from the NFL.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Let's go to college ball. Ladies and gentlemen, the college football season has been electrifying. In this year, there's been one piece added that everybody has said that it's absolutely lifted everything around it. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for this week's General's Top 5 College Football Program. The General Bob Carpenter is here. General, how you doing, pal? I'm doing great, man.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I was just enjoying some of that NHL talk, little NFL talk. I mean, clock management, figuring things out. And you know why Gardner Minshew is so great? I mean, Pat, he's got the best collection of jorts you're going to find anywhere in America. Well, I don't know. I feel pretty good about my jorts collection, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I do believe he and I have had conversations about what's covering our thighs. And last time I talked to him at training camp, he just loves ball, dude. Like, just all things football, loves it. And he also has this perspective that, like, don't know when the last snap's coming. So, like, trying to make the most of everything.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Perfect guy for the situation right now in Indianapolis, Bob. Perfect guy. Absolutely. My buddy Schlegs was down with him in Jacksonville. He goes, man, like you said, he loves ball. All his teammates love him. And he plays like he's got nothing to lose. Because once you've been benched a couple times
Starting point is 00:35:40 and everybody thinks you're no good in a backup, what are they going to do? Send you back to being a backup again? you're the only option they have anymore and also he was not scared to live in like a rattled rv yeah he wears shorts i don't think he spends a lot of money he's just this like hippie character it's like you fire me who care whatever but he's out there slaying it for us let's talk about college football though let's dive into your top five any big changes that we need to expect or let's just dive right in here coach we got some changes we got a little mix-up this is what season is everybody's finally getting their conference slates and you were just down in
Starting point is 00:36:16 red river this week so i know you witnessed a great one uh starting off at number five we've got ou that's the oregon Oregon Ducks, University of Oregon here. And so that's a nice little deal for them. They're coming in. They're coming off a bye. They've got a huge one this week, Pat, out in Seattle, Washington, taking on the Washington Huskies. I've said this for the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I think Oregon is the best team in the Pac-12. They can run the football. They have 230 yards on the ground. But plus, man, their defense is stingy. They're better on defense than I think a lot of people believe. So I've got them at number five. Okay, so taking on Pennix in that Huskies offense where three wide receivers averaging over 100 yards per game when they're playing.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Not everybody's playing every single game because of injuries and everything like that. You think Oregon's defense is going to be able to handle the explosive offense of Washington? I think they'll be able to slow them down enough. And the key thing for Oregon is when you look at them, they can run the football and they've got a good defense, so they don't have to race them to 70. I mean, teams that are good can play different ways. Now, I don't know if you need more personalities than Billy Milligan,
Starting point is 00:37:21 but you have to be able to run it sometimes. You've got to be able to throw it. You've got to be able to do some different things. I know you like that drop right there. That's pretty solid, yeah. The monster's inside. You're going to want to watch that. He's from my hometown of Lancaster, Ohio, but they can win in a multitude of ways, which is what I like. Okay, so number five, you go to Oregon.
Starting point is 00:37:38 We'll be out there for game day in Seattle. Four and a half hour flight. Can't wait to get out there. I've heard that people in Washington really enjoy me as a human, too. Sure. So I'm excited to take the long haul out there and do our thing. That's a big one for the Pac-12 in their last year of being the Pac-12. Who's the number four, General?
Starting point is 00:37:56 All right, number four, a team that you just watched in Dallas, Texas. I thought Texas was one of the best teams in the country when they went down there into the fairgrounds and took care of business. I have the Oklahoma Sooners taking care of it. Hey, they jumped up there. Dylan Gabriel's a one-man show with what he was able to do through the air and then making big plays on the ground. You don't expect them to rush for 100 yards plus every game.
Starting point is 00:38:20 But the real key to me, that Oklahoma defense last year, Pat, was bad. And Brent Venables, people are talking about him. If they don't get it cleaned up this year, they're in trouble. And look at what he's done, man. He went in on the biggest stage game day in front of God and everybody in the state of Texas and got it done. And, man, you've got to tip your cap, and I've got them at four. We've got Stutzman joining us actually at 2.15 Eastern Standard Time.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Stutzman, the linebacker who got the upside-down horns tattooed on his thigh, was also the one that gave the pregame motivational speech. Also the leading tackler, I think, in Big 12. And also the guy that was in on every single play as we watched live. Can't wait to chat with him. Congrats, Oklahoma. I thought Texas was going to be too big, too strong, too fast for them. This felt like the year the Texas team was built to go on a run.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And to do that, you've got to be big in the right places. D-line, O-line, got to have explosive playmakers outside and a quarterback that can do his thing, let alone a running back, which they certainly have. But Oklahoma, size for size, matched up with them. Speed-wise, matched up with them. Gritty, technique, Dylan Gabriel never blinked. It was fun to watch that Oklahoma team.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And I think a lot of us didn't know what the Oklahoma team was. We apologize. Because we were just assuming Texas, they get that Alabama win. They've kind of proven themselves already. Oklahoma, they still have last year's kind of stink on them for what happened last year in Venables' first year. Massive win. I'm happy you showed them a little respect
Starting point is 00:39:45 on your top five because I enjoyed watching them play football. They were some dogs, dude. Some dogs on that team. They got players, man. And like you said, Pat, they got smoked and embarrassed last year. And I think now what's setting up, we might have a collision course with Texas and OU, the rematch. And so we'll see
Starting point is 00:40:01 how that shakes out. But both of these teams should win out. And if that's the case, they'll be playing for a Big 12 championship. College football playoff spot on the rematch, and so we'll see how that shakes out, but both of these teams should win out, and if that's the case, they'll be playing for a Big 12 championship. College football playoff spot on the line there probably at the end of the season. That's a huge deal. Who do you got at three, General? Number three, we've got the Georgia
Starting point is 00:40:18 Bulldogs. They slid down a spot this week. Down a spot! They played their best football! They did play really good football, but there's a couple other teams that played some really good ball, too, but Georgia, Carson Beck's hitting his stride. He's been playing really, really well.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Their defense finally stepped up. This was the first complete game that I saw Georgia put together, and here's the thing, man. There is a lot of mess at the top of college football right now, so trying to parcel this out, man, is incredibly difficult. That's the first time I've seen that Georgia run defense look like they did, you know, last year and probably the year before.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So I feel better about where they're at. They got Vandy this week. And the problem is, like, I don't know, even against Tennessee, if we're going to really figure out what this Georgia Bulldog team looks like. I feel like the Georgia Bulldogs team feel like they figured out who they are this past weekend. And the Kentucky run game was their whole thing. Ray Davis had like 200 and some yards, 189 after contact the week before.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So we are excited to see if this Georgia defense is going to be the Georgia defensive pass. They show up. And Carson Beck, he's like, what, 6'6"? Huge. Huge. Dealing. I mean, he is absolutely dealing. Brock Bowers is still Brock Bowers.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Tony Diggs, I believe, is looking at some stats right now with Georgia or no? Yeah, I was just looking at the last three games. He's been, Beck has been unbelievable and it's because he's decided, hey, let's just throw the ball to Brock Bowers because he's the best tight end potentially in the last decade. Smart. Smart play. We don't mind it. I like the fact you slid Georgia down
Starting point is 00:41:41 because they're going to hear this and be like, oh, is that right? Back-to-back national champions. Just played our best game of the season. People are saying Georgia's back. General's like, not so fast, my friends. Who's at number two, Bob? All right, number two is just because they have been incredibly impressive as well.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Their schedule hasn't been a ton to write home about either. But I got to give credit to the Michigan Wolverines and what they've been able to do. Since Jim Harbaugh's been back, man, they've been able to pound the rock. And what is really impressive is J.J. McCarthy, if he doesn't throw interceptions, he's got the athleticism, he can buy time, and I think that they've been playing as good a football as anybody.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Now, their schedule hasn't been crazy tough, but if you look at what they've done, they've been competing, and I believe they've covered the number in every single game this year. Blake Corham's still Blake Corham, too, I do believe, right? Yes. Oh, yeah. Touchdown-wise, he is. Touchdown-wise, he is, yes.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Yeah, so Blake Corham's back. They run the ball. Harbaugh's got the boys buzzing. Michigan at two. That's one Big Ten school. I assume there's going to be another that's about to pop in here at one, Bob? Well, Coach, I mean, they've had one of the biggest wins of the week. They were taking on the top-ranked.
Starting point is 00:42:50 One of the top-ranked offenses in the Big Ten and one of the top in the country. His brother is quarterbacking the highest-flying offense in the NFL. That's the Ohio State Buckeyes. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, taking down the Maryland Terrapins, man. They were averaging 350 yards through the air. I give that defense a lot of credit. The offense was
Starting point is 00:43:09 slow at first, and this is what they have that I think they probably haven't had the last couple of years, man. Their defense is able to step up and get stops when they need to and make those big plays that maybe they hadn't been making before. Is Oppenheimer still a linebacker for Ohio State?
Starting point is 00:43:26 Eichenberg, you mean? There it is. He's the A-ball, that guy. That guy is the absolute. Eichenberg still over there? The boys still flying around? They're flying around, dude. They're making some plays.
Starting point is 00:43:36 They need to clean the linebackers up a little bit, but I got my boy James Lernitis. He's on the case. James Lernitis is on the case. You can ask A.G. about him. He's doing his best Luke Fickle impersonation. So he's going to have those guys cleaned up and ready to go here in a couple weeks against Penn State. Now, General, I don't know if you heard this or not, but Maryland's opponents going into this game,
Starting point is 00:43:55 I think we're like 3-50 or something against Power 5 schools. So everybody was making this to be a big game because this was Maryland doing Maryland stuff. And Talia Tongvaloa is the guy. Here we go. And then they run into the buzzsaw that is Ohio State. I think Ohio State people wanted people to not hear that what Maryland had played against was not that great. But even though Maryland had not had great opponents,
Starting point is 00:44:17 you still saw something out of that game that makes you believe Ohio State has what it takes to go on and win this whole thing this year? I think Maryland is the fourth best team in the Big Ten. And I don't know if they can beat Michigan or Penn State, but they'll be able to give them both a run. They're going to challenge. They can score the football. And the biggest thing is this is the best they've been defensively,
Starting point is 00:44:35 especially up front in quite some time. So I know they haven't played anybody yet, and that's part of the problem six weeks in. There's still teams that are trying to figure out who they are. But that Maryland team, they're pretty good. This is Mike Loxley's best squad. AQ, I saw you getting all upset over there about Penn State not being in the top five. You wanted three Big Ten schools in the top five?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Absolutely. It's the best conference in college football right now. There's one SEC team in the general's top five, a Big 12 team, a Pac-12 team, and two Big Ten teams. That is the state of college football in 2023, though, which is why this season has been so much more electrifying than maybe seasons past. Everybody feels like they got a shot.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Everybody feels like they got a chance. Does Penn State have one? Do you think, Bob? Does Penn State have one? Coach, they're a really good team, and in two weeks, we're going to find out. I mean, the best thing Ohio State's got going for them is the fact that fox does the big noons so penn state can't have the white outs against them in michigan anymore and they have penn state at home because i'm gonna tell you this you can ask aq you got to go there sometime pat if you ever play a night game in happy valley in a big moment
Starting point is 00:45:37 special man you can't hear yourself talk from me to my computer screen you got no space at all me to my computer screen you got no space at all he does that in his living room at his house he does that as his wife actually records him you gotta watch them time if you look at that upper deck hat when they're doing that that thing is swaying about four or five feet up in the air. I'm sitting there looking at it thinking, I pray that this thing doesn't collapse. It is an electric and rocket environment. So when they get the little songs going,
Starting point is 00:46:14 dude, it is crazy. If you've seen it. And they're a cult, too. They're blinders on. They are all the way in. I don't know if you saw James Franklin's press conference yesterday. He was asked about why they're not taking more deep shots. Here's James Franklin interacting with a reporter who's been covering Penn State for how
Starting point is 00:46:29 long? At least since I was there. 15, 20 years. So this is not a high schooler that head coach of Penn State James Franklin is interacting with or a college student. This is a grown-ass man asking a football question to James Franklin. Last question from Zoom, Corey Geiger.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Hey, good afternoon, James. Hey, Corey. A follow-up to what you were just asked there about Drew. Is there a balance though between, hey, we need you to throw the ball deep no matter just take a shot. Don't overtake it.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Take a shot. We need to see it. We're going to call it. And we need you to get some confidence in doing this as opposed to even giving a young quarterback the chance to say, hey, just check it down if it's not there. I don't really understand what you're saying because we would never. Like, my skin is curling when you say just drop back and chuck it deep no matter what. Like, that is like – I don't even know what you're saying. It's like you're speaking from Mars.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Just send a guy on a post pattern, take the shot, throw it. No matter what. Give your receiver a chance to make a play on a ball. Even if he might be covered 30 yards down the field, maybe you think he'll be open 45 yards down the field like Godwin did or with Jahan or KJ. I still don't like you're speaking Japanese. We have never done that.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Just throw the ball up and maybe he'll be open and maybe he'll catch it. My skin is like – you're making me uncomfortable. I don't know what you're talking about. So, yeah, we would not do that. We would never do that. We've never thought about doing that as a head coach, as an offensive coordinator, as a receivers coach. I coached the receivers. I didn't want them to do that um so no no strong no like yeah
Starting point is 00:48:34 no i'm hoping we can cut this out so this doesn't even like get out into the universe you can't it's Yep. I love college football because how many people are invested and want to see a team succeed and it's their lifeline and generations of everything. I also enjoy the fact
Starting point is 00:48:54 that James Franklin just got so obnoxiously uncomfortable. As that question's happening, he's moving his hand and then he starts hearing what he's alluding to and it's just... No.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Why is this human allowed to speak in my press conference? What is he even talking about? If things good for Penn State, we believe that even if Drew doesn't throw it up into double coverage, the Ohio boy, we think Penn State's still going to be able to go on a run, General? I think so. They're a good team. It'll be really interesting.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Can James Franklin win? Thank you. We're about to find out. Two weeks. Can James Franklin win? Because that was a great press. He won that press conference. He won that moment with the Zoom call. And I know what that guy was alluding to, by the way, because you've heard other coaches say once a quarter, we need
Starting point is 00:49:33 to be thrown a deep just to keep defenses honest. Like even if it's not there, we need to script in a deep ball, which I think is what he was getting to. Now, James Franklin did not hear that. He heard something much different. But can James Franklin win the big one? That's the big question, right? That is the big question. I mean, it's like 2-20 now at this point or something like that against top 10 teams. 1-0 against Corey Geiger there.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah, he won that one. He won that one. That was awesome. So it's Penn State, Ohio State win. Two weeks? Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And, hey, you even missed it earlier in that presser. He threw like a tacit knife to the back of Michigan talking about buying out of contracts with big non-conference games. Didn't call him out by name, but there's some nice audio of that you're going to want to stumble upon, Pat, because he was on fire yesterday. James Franklin's feeling himself. Let's keep it going. Two weeks from now, they get a big win over Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Whoa! And those mics ready to go. Any gimmicks we got this week? General, we need to keep an eye on? Coach, I got two gimmicks for you. I don't normally like to call out coaches or programs in a negative way. I'm a positive guy, but Pat, especially when you've been in special
Starting point is 00:50:39 teams, clock management is number one. I've got my Flavor Flay. We're going to put the clock on. Mario Cristobal, coach. Pat, I know you've been out there on punt team before and they say, do not punt that football until there is one second left on the clock. Do not snap it. You've got to know, you've got to understand, and especially you've got to know when you can just take a knee. Everything that happened after that, that's going to be all on you, man. And I hurt for those players who lost.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Granted, they made some mistakes, but you didn't need to snap it. What are you doing? Yeah, General, that's like elementary stuff. If you get to two minutes left with a first down and the other team doesn't have a timeout, guess what? Game's over. That is the goal that every team is trying to get to. Trying to get to two minutes, other team no timeouts, we need a first down, this thing is over. That's elementary goal that every team is trying to get to. Trying to get to two minutes, other team, no timeouts, we need
Starting point is 00:51:26 a first down, this thing is over. That's elementary, I feel like. When I came into football, my junior year of high school, feels like that was something in Pittsburgh growing up we knew because we're NFL town and everything, but that's just like low-hanging fruit of like what's football information I should
Starting point is 00:51:42 know? Boom. Now I'm getting paid millions of dollars to coach and teach football to people. Should I know? Yes. And then immediately after the game, got to keep two hands on the ball. It's like, buddy, buddy. That was an ineptitude at a level that I don't think any of us could have expected, especially you said you feel bad for the players.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I feel bad for the coaching staff. I feel bad for the school. They were undefeated. Miami was back. This was, here we go. Yeah, go ahead. You're the offensive coordinator, and he signals in and tells you to call a play.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Like, oh, play. No. What are we doing? Here's the play. Victory need. Here's the play. Give me a linebacker to go stand back here and run back and tell him to do a backflip if he has to.
Starting point is 00:52:24 We're kneeling this thing out. We're getting a dub. You should be putting your players in a position to win. That's the only thing that you should be mattering or thinking about. And obviously the complete opposite happened. But college football is riddled with those situations. I think if you look around, like if we were to start snooping around at coaches making low football IQ decisions in college,
Starting point is 00:52:44 I think we would have a seven-hour show. I mean, the Mad Hatter back when he was at LSU, it was every week. Every week. It was every single week. There was some timeout flub. There was some run the clock flub. There was some too many men. There was something happening. It's like these dudes are getting paid millions of dollars to be football coaches, and there's some elementary stuff that's happening. Chris Ball will learn, though, right right? Oh yeah, he actually did it before. Something he's done before. Anyways, what's the other gimmick there we got, Bob?
Starting point is 00:53:10 All right, I got my Kanye West coming home because you love a good homecoming story. We're going with the Louisville Cardinals, Jeff Brom. And unfortunately, I took down my guy, Marcus Freeman, but you want to talk about a raucous environment down there in Louisville. They call it, you know, I was looking at some nicknames. You know, they call it the Derby City, the Falls City because of the falls outside of there.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Dude, you got Louisville Sluggers, the home of Muhammad Ali. Like, you got to go with the Slugger City right there with what they were able to do on Saturday night against Notre Dame. That's a huge win for a guy going back to his alma mater. Yeah, good for Braum getting this thing rolling. You know, we saw last year at TCU Sonny Dyches' first year.
Starting point is 00:53:50 He goes in there. They end up going on a run all the way to the finals. It's like, how the hell did this guy pull this off, put his culture in, get his players in, get his offense in, and get everybody to buy in? Braum's been able to do that at Louisville in a beautiful fashion. Massive dub over Notre Dame. Huge. And what a Notre Dame moment there. Yeah, I know. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:07 You lose Ohio State, you don't lose again. Probably still in the conversation. Then you lose the Louisville on primetime. It's like, it's going to be tough to kind of sneak Notre Dame into anything. Although I do believe they have a great team this year. Hey, Bob, you're fantastic at what you do, pal. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it, Patrick. Have a great show. Ladies and gentlemen, the General Bob Grover. If you don't know by now, I'm talking about Chi-Town. Sad news out of Chi-Town this morning. Former teammate of ours, former friend of ours,
Starting point is 00:54:40 Sergio Brown, has been arrested for the death of his mother, in which he has been on the run for the last couple weeks with everybody looking for him. They found him in Mexico. He was then deported to San Diego. Now he's being transported back to Illinois. His mother Myrtle, I met her. I knew her. She was a wonderful woman. Sergio and I spent a lot of time together back in the day. I think I speak for everybody that played alongside Sergio and has been friends
Starting point is 00:55:07 with Sergio over the last couple years. That has not been a Sergio that we have known. We have no idea what he got into, what has happened, but we know it's an incredibly sad situation, and we lost a very good lady. A very, very, very, very good lady in this whole thing. So that's
Starting point is 00:55:24 I guess good news that they found him, but terrible news that the whole situation's even taken place. Yeah, we'll continue to see how everything unfolds. But like you said, just an overall super sad situation. I was teammates with Sergio as a rookie, so I met his mom when he first came in, and then we're teammates with him again here. And like you said, last couple of years,
Starting point is 00:55:41 there's been some things very different with him. So we'll see how that all goes. Yeah, and you never want to, like, this is terrible, but, like, something happened at some point through his journey. He was working for Google at one point. I mean, he was, like, went to Miami. I think he got his business degree. Got his MBA.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yeah, he got his MBA, was working at Google, and then he was, like, traveling and, like, kept in touch a little bit. And then over the last couple, like something we have no idea. Very sad. Happy to hear he's in custody though. And so sorry that his mother obviously got murdered and they're saying it was him. So, I mean, sad, sad, sad scene, but we shall keep an eye on it all.
Starting point is 00:56:20 at all. Joining us now is a man who his knees are a little stiff. But anytime we see him, you forget absolute monster. All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, although on this particular show, he's just a toxic stooge. He's one of the greatest athletes to ever exist. College football
Starting point is 00:56:44 national champion, Super Bowl champion, current president of Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Haw. AJ, how you doing, pal? I'm doing well. I thought AQ's not allowed to spar. I thought it was strictly he hits the bag and he hits the mitts. What are we doing? Bingo. You and I are the only ones that are in his community of friends that are telling the truth. He was told by a doctor, don't do anything and now he's i saw a video he said well he's here trying to take me down he's up against a wall and they got like four dudes like a train it's like a train coming through one guy comes in tries to take him down whenever he's done all right he walks off aq still stare that's right
Starting point is 00:57:22 another guy comes in tries to take him down. Then a 300-pounder comes over, and AQ's just sitting there taking it. Boom, who's next? Boom, who's next? Boom, who's next? By the fourth guy, though, guess what this little skinny weeble wobble got at him? Boom, up, down on his back. Was scared he's never going to get up.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Nobody's telling him this. They're all, like, happy for him. He's chasing his dreams. You're going to put yourself in real jeopardy. Do you ever think about this, pal? No. Never.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Not once. You should. You got to fail it. You got kids. If you ain't living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Oh!
Starting point is 00:57:57 Tell him, D-Butt. Tell him, D-Butt. That was a good one. We should put that up on a marquee. Yeah, where'd you hear that? If you're not living life on the edge,
Starting point is 00:58:03 you're taking up too much space. Like that. Wow! Half over, hear that? If you're not living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Like that. Wow. Half over, half back. So you're only taking a pack. If you paralyze yourself, it's going to be a lot tougher
Starting point is 00:58:11 to live on the edge. Relax, doctor. No, they have wheel locks. Speaking of doctors, yesterday's conversation with Aaron Rodgers certainly garnered some headlines.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Really? A lot of people wanted to talk about a lot of things. He complimented Jordan Love, obviously. He talked about the Packers. He talked about Hackett getting revenge on Sean Payton and how happy he was for that.
Starting point is 00:58:29 He set up a debate. Yeah. But what nobody's talking about is no F-bombs. None. Right? None. That's progress. That's right.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I don't think anybody has mentioned that, and I think that's rude, AJ, because if you remember the Wall Street Journal, the only thing they wrote about was all the F-bombs f-bombs f-bombs Aaron didn't say one f-bomb last night or yesterday on this show and it was not discussed at all other than that AJ how do you think yesterday's conversation went with the uh obvious ripple effects afterwards uh I think it uh you know it went as well as Aaron would have liked it to go. I think he sets up things for the future that he possibly would entertain him, I guess, and try to instruct
Starting point is 00:59:10 people on whatever his beliefs are. But yeah, I mean, Aaron likes to give his opinion. Obviously, he feels comfortable in here. So I like that. I appreciate that he feels comfortable. Just so everybody knows, we understand how dumb it all is oh yeah yeah yesterday my name was mentioned alongside robert f kennedy jr and tony fachi that's right numerous times in a lot of different you know like high classy hoi toi newspaper magazine blog things i don't think this is a real world that we're living in but i'm sure happy that a Aaron Rodgers came in saying, I got an idea. I propose a vaccine debate in 2023. This stopped for a couple years. But then when he already had teams already made. And now people are trying to get this into a six-man.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I don't know if you've seen this. There's people that are trying to make this a six-man. Well, I mean, Dr. Joe Rogan, obviously, everybody's saying he needs to get involved. And on the other side, what did Aaron call them? Pharmacrats, I believe is what he called them. You can find any other pharmacist. There's a lot of them that wanted to sign up.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I've seen them all on my mentions. Everybody was willing to step in because they all knew a lot of things. And virologists, I believe, were involved in the whole thing. What a wild Tuesday. It felt like we're back in 2020 again. It did. It felt like we're right back in the middle of it. Also, Rand Paul shot his hand up saying, hey, I'd love to get in on this. Okay, don't're back in 2020 again. It did. It felt like we're right back in the middle of it. Also, Rand Paul
Starting point is 01:00:25 shot his hand up saying, hey, I'd love to get in on this. Okay, don't leave me out of this. I want in as well. This thing's going to end up being a 5-on-5. One of those Russian mixed martial arts where they're running at each other doing the whole thing. Yeah, our name's going to be
Starting point is 01:00:42 associated with that. So I would like to let the world know yeah, we're not the right place for that. AJ was trending after it. AJ Hawkwood? Yeah. Yeah, that's it. But a lot of people were just saying, like, who is this shovel-looking human being who just sits here? You are.
Starting point is 01:00:55 You are, too. You are, too. You are, too. The Watcher. You are, too. The Watcher. One of the greatest descriptors I have ever heard of AJ. One of the greatest descriptors I have ever heard of AJ.
Starting point is 01:01:07 But our reactions, you know, whenever Aaron's doing his thing, my first reaction is to naturally just laugh because I think it's hilarious that I am currently talking to a human who is very okay if this was to come, like if this was to come to fruition, he would, that's, that'd be a massive dream. That's what he wants. He would be very dream like not a joke like obviously making it in a joking fashion but also if we want to do this let's do it and i
Starting point is 01:01:32 am the doof doofus douchebag too in a tank top just being like what is this world uh so we appreciate eric for coming on and certainly enlightening us about everything because it's not also what he says it's the reaction where I learn a lot too. There's a lot of people that are not happy with what he was saying yesterday. Now, on the flip side, boy, there's people saying Aaron needs to run for president.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I don't know if people know that. Now, I don't know how we would feel in that particular case, not a politics and sports show. At the end of that, it will be Aaron Rodgers, Travis Kelsey, Oklahoma drill. Just because if we're going to do football, we got to do football. And I can't wait to hear how Travis Kelsey responds to this.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I was going to say, has anyone reached out to Travis? Because I'm guessing debating this is not on his highest list of priorities. The amount of times that Travis Kelsey has had to say like, what? What? You know what I mean? Oh yeah. Hey, what? Yeah. Oh God. What? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:26 Oh yeah. Hey, Aaron called you Mr. Pfizer. Okay. Just, and Travis was like, Aaron Rogers? Yeah. If you don't remember, he did not get, famously,
Starting point is 01:02:37 did not get vaxxed, got COVID. I think the president even called him out. Like the whole world. SNL. Pretty much attacked. They said that he's going to kill everybody. So now that you're on there, see how he, you're a natural. And then you add in some other stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Yeah. And then what's going on? Yeah, you're kind of in a whirlwind right now. And Travis goes, you know, I'm just going to laugh it off. I'll address it one time and then we'll move on. And Aaron was like, vaccine war. Slow down, homie. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:05 You want to have a war? He doesn't know that Aaron has actually been in this war for a few years. Five-star general. Yeah, he has earned it. Decorated. Travis just got dropped into it. I was asked if I wanted to do a commercial. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I was told it was good. Sure. That was a good thing. Let's pivot away from Mr. Pfizer and a future debate with Anthony Fauci, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Aaron Rodgers, and Travis Kelsey. Let's talk to a man who's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, already in the ring of honor for the Houston Texans, a man who was on CBS's pregame show this past weekend,
Starting point is 01:03:39 and I believe this weekend coming up, and he swore on our program last year. That's right. Last week. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J last year. That's right. Last week. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Wyatt. Hey, J.J.! No more swearing. No more swearing. I would like a front seat and some popcorn to that debate.
Starting point is 01:03:53 That'd be great. Dude, they're just talking about me potentially. I am not the right person to be in there, but I would like to be in the room where it happens. I would like to see the interactions. If they cut to a commercial break, who's mad at who? You son of a... You know, that whole thing. I want to see it all.
Starting point is 01:04:07 What a moment that would be. Let's start diving in. What's the shirt today? Every day you come on here, you have an incredible shirt. What's the Wonka bar? What's the Wonka bar, JJ? Nice. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:04:17 A little Willy Wonka. Faka Factory or Oompa Loompa is the whole deal. Come on. Oh, Wonka. How much for a golden goose? Yeah, I know know the lazy ass grandpa no work ethic son of a bitch yeah he's just profiting off his grandkid out of bed popped up here we go i gotta go this entire time he got us some real food but instead
Starting point is 01:04:40 we're doing this yeah i know what you're talking about i didn't know that was just for that is that a medium right there pal that's that you got that as a kid yeah so i got a bunch of these shirts i was like i'm gonna start wearing them and they are far too small hold on let's see i think you probably look good let's go you look really jock whenever you stood up oh still got it still got it ah still preparing for a comeback maybe Let's talk about the Watts that are in the NFL. Your brother TJ is on track for like 27 and a half sacks or something like that. Already at eight. Had two this past weekend. One of them being a game winner. We have the film. We have the plays that you can kind of talk over but when you're watching your brother right now what is the sense of pride that you have knowing that he's seemingly unstoppable on a football field right now it's pretty incredible man it's so much fun to watch and just knowing how hard he works knowing how hard it is to play at this level um this one right here was the best
Starting point is 01:05:40 because i to end the game on fourth and seven against your division rival with a sack through a double team, go ahead, bring the chipper, have the tackle, no problem, finish it. And then why not just go ahead and just rip your helmet off, scream to the crowd, have the entire city of Pittsburgh in your hand. I mean, what a moment. He's really doing it. He's going to break the record, huh? This is it. He's going to go get it. All he needed was a little incentive from you, I guess. I mean, apparently, that's just the thing he needed, just a little Pat McAfee motivation.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I don't know if it's us or the $500,000 not going to your charity, but definitely going to the Pittsburgh Children's Hospital if he breaks the sack record, or if it's his tag team partner on the other side. Heisman, also phenomenal. These two dudes are wrecking games out there for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, I think you have to give a ton of credit to Alex Highsmith on the other side. I mean, he just got paid this offseason. TJ gets paid a
Starting point is 01:06:34 couple years ago. Here's Alex right around the edge, strip sack. TJ picks it up. I feel like we have this clip every single week. Like, I come and I'm talking to Connor. I'm like, wow, what kind of clips do you want? I'm like, well, let's do that Highsmith fumble. TJ picks it up every single week. I mean, think about this team and the Steelers and where they are right now. Obviously, we all know the offensive struggles. Alex Highsmith and TJ Watt, if they don't have
Starting point is 01:06:56 those two, what does that record look like this year? It is a completely different team and these two are at the forefront of it. It is a lot of fun to watch as an edge rusher myself and an older brother. Yeah, I would assume it's a great time watching the success that they're having against every single offensive line, every scheme. They're coming to chip him.
Starting point is 01:07:13 He splits it. He wins the game. Take the helmet off, 15-yard penalty. Who cares? You know what I mean? You absolutely did it. But on the offensive side, they have some real issues over there in Pittsburgh, and I know you're following this closely.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Normally, here we go, Steelers. Here we go. Here we go, Steelers. Here we go. That's a chant everywhere. PNC Park, when the Pirates are playing, that's going to get chanted. Whenever you're at PPG Paints Arena and you're taking a piss in the bathroom watching the Pittsburgh Penguins, that's going to get chanted. You go down to Kennywood, you're at the Potato Patch, you're doing your entire thing, that's going to get chanted. You go down to Kennywood, you're at the Potato Patch, you're doing your entire thing, that's going to get chanted. It is no longer that chant, though. It is a completely different chant, JJ. Last night at the Pittsburgh Penguins opener
Starting point is 01:07:52 against the Chicago Blackhawks, instead of the Here We Go Steelers chant, this is now the chant that is being rang around Pittsburgh. How does TJ Highsmith and the boys on the defense keep that all out while the entire city of Pittsburgh is calling for the offense to look vastly different? If you were in that situation, how would you handle that whole thing, JJ? Well, first, I wasn't going to bring up the Pens game. I know you're a Pens fan, so I didn't want to bring up the game last night.
Starting point is 01:08:31 I was tuned into it. Second, I'd love to look into the mindset of the guys on the ice hearing somebody chant, fire Canada, when they have no idea what that is. I'm from Canada. They were like, oh, hey, oh, hey, oh, hey. Yeah, we had fires up there, hey, oh, hey, oh, hey. Yeah, we had fires up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Oh, hey. Oh. Somebody had to tell a couple of the Russians. Yeah, right. Are they talking about where Bedard's from Canada? No, no.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Offense coordinator, Steelers. Oh, that guy's hated. Everybody couldn't imagine the surprise. I mean, it's just gotten to a point up there where it's pretty wild and it's crazy that obviously even after a win against your division rival,
Starting point is 01:09:07 going into a bye week, top of the division, you still have that going on in this city. And I think that just speaks to the frustration of everybody there with the offense. So you ask, what would I do in that locker room? I mean, as a defensive player, you do what you can to go out there and win games. And that's truthfully what they've done. Highsmith has a pick six. TJ has a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:09:26 You go get strip sacks. You go do anything humanly possible. You have Joey Porter Jr. get an interception in the end zone. You know, anything you can possibly do to go out there and win that game. And then you just hope they find that rhythm at some point. But, I mean, the last – the play to pickings was awesome. I mean, that's obviously what you're looking for. You're hoping for more of that, and you're hoping for some of those big plays to hit.
Starting point is 01:09:48 But right now, all you can do is just go out there and play damn good defense. Go ahead, AJ. JJ, if you're on a team, say, where your defense is outperforming the offense, and you look around the league, it's happening at certain places. I know Jai Alexander was not throwing any shade at his offense, but just saying defensively, it's our job to score points and to stop them, obviously.
Starting point is 01:10:04 We have a young offense trying to get in the group. How do you find a way, I guess, if you're a defense as a whole to not resent an offense like that? If it's week after week and you feel like they're not consistently scoring, how do you kind of keep the team together? Yeah, you know, I was kind of having this conversation last week because after the Houston game, the Steelers obviously were having, but both sides of the ball were not good. So that's almost better because then neither side can be resentful of the other. It's kind of, hey, we all got to figure it out. When it's very clearly one side week after week after week, it does get difficult.
Starting point is 01:10:36 But, I mean, what are you going to do? Like there's nothing you can do. You're a professional. You go out there. You do your job. Some teams have quit. JJ, we've seen it before where some defenses have quit. I think Chicago Bears a couple years back.
Starting point is 01:10:49 It was like week 11, week 12. You just saw an absolute fed up. There's nothing we do matters almost. That's almost human nature. You've just got to not do that. But honestly, one of the things you can do, they're on their bye week this week. It is the perfect time for self-scout. You have your defensive guys. You have your defensive coaches watch that offensive film,
Starting point is 01:11:09 and you say, hey, what are our weaknesses? Where can we get better? Are we tipping plays? Are there plays that we're leaving on the table? What gaps are weak that we should be attacking? This is that time during this week that those defensive coaches have a chance to actually go and watch that offensive tape and give some of that feedback to the offensive guys, whereas the rest of the year you don't have time to do that.
Starting point is 01:11:28 So if there's big things that are going to happen, if there's scheme changes, whatever it may be, this is the week to do it with the bye week. 7-2 after the bye last year and went on, obviously, a magical run. They're assuming they're going to be able to do the same thing. I don't know if Pittsburgh believes that, especially as they continue to chant the fire of the offensive coordinator in every venue in Pittsburgh. They told me down there at the dueling piano bar
Starting point is 01:11:49 on the south side that they actually sang fire and then the crowd panned it. Two hours straight. Didn't play any other song. We were doing it on church on Saturdays too and Sunday mornings before the game. That's what I heard. Fire.
Starting point is 01:12:07 We lift our hearts up to the Pittsburgh offense. Fire Canada. That's Pittsburgh, though. It is. Oh, man, a priest walking out.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Everybody bow their heads. Today, we pray to our Lord and Savior to do one thing and one thing alone. Oh, man, a priest walking out. Everybody bow their heads. Today, we pray to our Lord and Savior to do one thing and one thing alone. Fire. Canada. And then they start boozing on the wine. What? And then they wake up the next day and realize Tomlin's a coach. And Tomlin's never going to do that in the middle of the season, but by
Starting point is 01:12:46 week, maybe they'll get better. Connor has a question for you. I'm interested. I'm sorry. One second. I'm actually interested in your guys' thoughts on this, because this is something that I've heard about a lot. Hey, ask Diggs first. Real thoughts, though. Diggs is going to do a little fake thoughts here if you ask a real question. Just want to let you know that. All right. Diggs, real thoughts, please. I mean, don't
Starting point is 01:13:01 give me any of that bullshit. When a situation like this happens, you see an entire stadium, not even in the same sport, chanting about this guy wanting him fired. Is that something where it's like, hey, makes a lot of money. He's the coach of a team. You know what comes along with it, whether it's a player or a coach. Is that like, hey, you just got to live with it and deal with it? Or does it get to the point where you're like, oh, man.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Start to feel bad for Canada? Or you think anybody's starting to feel bad for Canada at this point? That's an interesting question. No, absolutely not. I mean, this is what the NFL is. Like, you get paid. He gets paid to be good at his job. He's never once been good at it.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Not once. No. Not one time. Okay? There hasn't been one game where. Preseason, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So good. Preseason, right? Yeah, he was so good.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Preseason, they're unbelievable. We watched it. We've seen it. You've seen it. I did see it. Yeah, they were playing the most base coverages you could ever imagine playing. And yeah, his high school offense is really good against just base cover three, maybe some mix in some cover two there.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Zoe, the answer's no, JJ. Nobody cares. And they're going to start chanting that louder, especially after a bye week if the same thing happens two weeks from now. Boy, it's going to get even louder. Guess what? You're down at the steel mills and you're just throwing hot molten steel all over everybody and killing people
Starting point is 01:14:13 and stuff like that. You're going to get fired, okay? You can't show up to your job every day and be bad and keep it. That ain't how it goes. Not everyone knows that. Well, there's a lot of situations that we've certainly seen. People bad at their jobs just assume they're going to keep their jobs for the rest of their life because they had a job. Makes sense.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Very good. Hey, congrats to them having that mindset. True. No fear at all. Yeah, that's kind of sweet. No fear at all that they're going to lose a job. That must be so sweet. Just go to bed.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Who cares? What did you do today? Nothing. Wake up. What are you going to do? Nothing. That's Matt Canada. And then he shows up wearing his stupid hat again.
Starting point is 01:14:44 He's like, oh, here we go. again all right let's move on from canada and thank you for adding fuel to the canada fire that has already started uh connor has a question for you jj yeah jj team that's actually close to the country canada the detroit lions they do not have a problem on offense they definitely don't have a problem on defense uh what are you seeing out of hutch in that d line and you know that team as a whole just because you know we all expected the lions to be good but now that we're five weeks defense. What are you seeing out of Hutch in that D-line and that team as a whole? Just because we all expected the Lions to be good, but now that we're five weeks into it and they really are one of the best teams in the NFL, how are you feeling about them right now? Yeah, they have a very, very strong handle on that NFC North right now. And I think Aiden
Starting point is 01:15:18 Hutchinson is playing extremely well. He's a playmaker. I mean, has there been a better fit in terms of a draft pick and Aiden Hutchinson going to the Detroit Lions? Obviously, the Jaguars passing on him. But the guy can make plays. Not only can he make sacks on the edge, but I feel like he has, like, what, four or five interceptions this year already? Here, just go ahead. Snag it with one hand.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Now watch this. Smoked. Absolutely smoked in the thigh. I mean, that is a Charlie horse of epic proportions. And then I'm watching the replay, and I see, like, this still shot. I mean, geez, dude. Look at the way that he's playing. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:15:51 We have a still shot, though. We do have a still shot. Look at that thing. Look at this. He's fine, and he's perfectly fine. He got up and jogged, felt it a little bit, but he's like, I just got a sweet pick, though. Let's not ruin this moment.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I'm going to dance. And then he ended up playing. It's like, I just got a sweet pick, though. Let's not ruin this moment. I'm going to dance. And then he ended up playing. It's like, great recovery. We've seen his off days. We've done a day with him. He does a lot of prehab, rehab, takes care of his body. He's exploded on the scene. But to your point, everybody talks about his work ethic and his engine and his battery and how he's
Starting point is 01:16:20 always going. He has some real sneaky picks. Last year, I think his first one, he was dropping into coverage. It was a screen that he picked off, and then he took it to the house. That one, one-handed snag, reading the tackle, setting him up and doing it. The guy's a playmaker all over the place. What a match for them in Detroit, JJ. Yeah, I mean, I love it.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I love watching him play because he does all sorts of things. He was a sack later in the game. He had a spin move, a nice spin. He can do everything, and he can move. I can't get that picture out of my head of his leg looking like that. Like, any – people don't understand, like, in the NFL. Like, you are waking up the next day and trying to get ready for another game this week. You do that to somebody on the sidewalk.
Starting point is 01:17:00 They're down for months. Look at that thing. Yeah, and also you wake up the next day, you have a little pain, and you go, what was that from? Then you see the film, and it was like, oh, there it is. My knee is sideways. I was feeling a little stretched, even
Starting point is 01:17:15 because you're quad, probably. I feel a little strain in here. Did you ever have one, Pat? Did you ever take a crazy, crazy hit? A guy hit me in my one leg. It was against Oakland. It was a 100-percenter. We were supposed to score a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:17:30 We were supposed to run it within the five-yard line, and we ran it at the 35. So needed some points. It was on Christmas Eve. I was supposed to do it. Had a magic trick in my hand warmer for when I scored a touchdown with this one. I mean, I was. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:17:45 This one was wide. This one was wide open. You know, snap to the holder. Holder gets up, runs, does his thing. Vinatieri was supposed to distract Cuzz to go right. It was supposed to be done inside the five. We were way too far back to do it. As it was getting cold out there, I thought Chuck was sending me on a suicide mission, to be completely honest. Nobody really knew. We were supposed to be on the other hash, too, because the guard that would have had to pull was a defensive guy. Shout out Zach Kerr. Whenever I call the play in there, Zach Kerr goes, we're on the wrong side.
Starting point is 01:18:14 I'm supposed to. And I go, yeah, yeah, that's what we're doing here, Zach. He goes, good luck, basically, is what Zach Kerr tells me. Still in the NFL. And I get up, and I start running, and Darren Bates is the linebacker, and he did not bite at all on Vinatieri. He met me at that hole.
Starting point is 01:18:31 So I gave him a... A little stick. What was your strategy? What was your strategy? I should have jumped over him. I did a spin move instead, and he hit my one leg into my other leg so hard. I end up at the bottom of a pile. My arm hits the ground.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Ball comes out. Now there's a scrum on top of me. Ref says, it doesn't matter. It was fourth down. Like, ref's talking shit to me pretty much. I'm saying my arm was down. I don't want to fumble on my stat sheet. You know, I was down there as I'm getting killed.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Next day, I get up. I have a bruise on this leg right here. And I'm like, what the hell happened to my leg? And then I watched replay back. He hit me so hard that my one knee bruised my other leg. So it was at that moment where I was pretty thankful that I don't run the ball ever. And I realized I'm nowhere near tough enough. So yes, it has happened to me.
Starting point is 01:19:20 How about you, JJ? Did you wake up the next day after your nose was bleeding and be like, wow, what happened to my face? Did that happen to you? Yeah, it happened a lot. It happened a whole lot. I got to send a picture to Connor. I got a bruise that was very bad. It was Fred Taylor. I was coming
Starting point is 01:19:35 right off the edge and it was a free shot on the quarterback, except for it was Fred Taylor standing back there. I don't know why I keep saying Fred Taylor. I don't know if it was Fred Taylor. Anyways, the running back was standing there, and I had a decision to make. I could either go and try and bat the ball because I saw him start to throw it,
Starting point is 01:19:54 or I could try and run the running back over and get the sack. And I was like, make the sacrifice to the team. Put your hands up in the air. And I mean, when I tell you he hit me in the thigh board as hard as you could hit somebody, folded me in half thigh board as hard as you could hit somebody. Folded me in half, straight to the ground, and my entire thigh was black and blue for the next, like, two weeks straight. Did you feel soft, or what'd you do? Just get a twirl, get back out there?
Starting point is 01:20:15 It's one of those things, kind of. I'm sure, like, Aiden felt that. Oh, my God! Holy hell. First of all, I'm going to see your balls here. So happy that that that's all right there. That is a full Thank you for doing that. First of all, look at going to see your balls here. So happy that that's all right there. That is a full. Tucked him in.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Thank you for doing that. First of all, look at the left quad. Yeah, what the hell? Jeez Louise. Good. That's Bruce. You got some good looking legs. That was painful, man.
Starting point is 01:20:36 That was painful. It was nothing. I didn't know anything about it really. I mean, I obviously knew I took the hit, but I played the rest of the game. And it's kind of one of those things. You keep the adrenaline going, you keep the blood flowing, it's fine. And then you wake up the next morning, and you go to take a step out of bed, and you're like, did I stand on a train track?
Starting point is 01:20:54 What the hell? It was brutal, too. You shave your legs? No. I'm blonde. Can you put that back up? It looks like you shave your legs. Oh, blonde.
Starting point is 01:21:03 You shave those quads? Yeah, you definitely shaved the left leg. You want to shave that quad? Yeah. I didn't shave it. I didn't shave it. I didn't shave it. This is the second time my legs have been live.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Yeah, a lot of legs. I don't shave my legs. Hey, it's okay if you do. Hey, listen. That's cool. It's all right if you do because it makes your legs look bigger and stronger and faster like that. We also pulled up my play where I got tackled. If it does, I will.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Yeah, shave the arms too. People shave the arms as well. But we got a chance to pull up the play. I thought I was out there. You saw it. It was a good spin. I literally, I set him up. AJ, wait till you I mean, it's loading right now in the back. Obviously, our internet is fantastic. But I thought I had this guy. I didn't have a bruise that you just said.
Starting point is 01:21:41 I can't wait for this. JJ, I mean, this was Christmas Eve, pal. This was the night we'll be remembered for. What was the magic a bruise that you just had. Oh, I can't wait for this. JJ. I mean, this was Christmas Eve, pal. This was the night we'll be remembered for good. What was the magic trick? What were you going to do? I was going to make a... So what we saw Lou Holtz do, what we saw Lou Holtz do with actual Lou Holtz, I mean, that is what it was going to be.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I was going to pull a handkerchief out, and I was going to go right to the camera, and I was going to make it disappear. And then the ref was going to throw a flag, and I was going to grab that, and I was going to go right to the camera and I was going to make it disappear. And then the ref was going to throw a flag and I was going to grab that and I was going to start playing it. Anyways, here is the play that was supposed to be a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Look at that. Oh, you had it. Oh! My arm was down, though. It was. When the ball came out. You're dead? Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 01:22:24 That's a good spin, though, honestly. Thank you. I mean, it's just natural reaction. Who knows if I actually practice running the ball what I'm going to come up with. But right there, I should have jumped over top of him right there. I don't know. You might have had to get to the left. Well, that's Zach Curry actually blocking incredibly well.
Starting point is 01:22:35 The guy that was very much worried. He's all the way up there. There's a couple guys on the ground there. Yeah. I mean, Darren Bates is cutting off the gap to the left, Darius. I don't know. Oh, it's so easy with air conditioning and clickers Everybody's got the answers
Starting point is 01:22:47 Blame it on the baseball field Pat Just blame it on the fact that you're playing on the baseball field Hey This hurts right here Left arm I mean I was down though No fumble Absolute crop that they even thought
Starting point is 01:23:03 And you weren't used to taking hits like that. So, like, for us, like, you take them every week or whatever. But, I mean, that's a first-timer there. That had to feel good the next couple days. Yeah, yeah, four or five days. Anytime I made a tackle, four or five days. Literally the whole this area right here. I don't know how you guys dealt with it.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Yeah, it just felt like something shot right down my spinal cord every single time. And you guys just – thank you guys for your service. And me too, obviously. What's that? Jalen Hurts had one last week. Was it against the Rams? Yeah, that was a hyper against, it was more similar to the Hutchport.
Starting point is 01:23:32 That was crazy. He got hit low. Okay, let's talk about this. Now that we're talking about bodies and everything, the NFL is going to go to 18 games, we assume at some point, because they're going to see the amount of money that another week of games will bring.
Starting point is 01:23:43 But if they add another bye week, that's another two weeks of games that they can sell with more prime time we assume that's where we're headed roger goodell this past weekend was in london talking to a man named neil reynolds this is what he said about the london and england experiment and what it could look like in the future with the nfl the jaguars are playing consecutive games over here and staying over here and part of that is just to see how would teams react to that how would you know is it a is it a competitive disadvantage or advantage one way or the other we'll learn something from that that will help us determine can we play more games could a team actually play over here? So if somebody came over here to play against a London franchise,
Starting point is 01:24:29 and let's say there was more than one team over here, they would probably stay for a few weeks. So this will help us understand. All right, my ears just pricked up. Did you say three teams? Just said more than one team. Three. More than one London team.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Oh, three. You did? All right, I'm just checking. MJD, do you think that if? If, yeah, true. You did? All right, I'm just checking. MJD, do you think that if? If, yeah, true. Yep. You should always put that if in. Okay, so JJ,
Starting point is 01:24:50 obviously a lot has been made of these England games because they've been a smashing success. Now the Toy Story games are happening. The 9.30 a.m. games are happening.
Starting point is 01:24:58 There's another game over there. Jacksonville has played the most games over there because they assumed at some point Jacksonville would make home over there, especially with the Khan family connection to premier soccer and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:25:09 What are your thoughts on the NFL in England and potentially having its own division over there, JJ? I mean, I think it's fascinating just purely from a logistical standpoint. I think it's certainly headed that way at some point. I just don't know how they're possibly going to make it work logistically. But I do know two things to say about that. Because, first of all, I'm sitting there and I'm, let's say you're the Bills. You're like, don't experiment against me, man.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Like, don't, like, give the other team the advantage against our team. Like, yes, I understand you have to, like, try it. But maybe not against us who are trying to have a great year. Or, like, obviously for the Jags, like, Yeah, let's do it. We'll get the advantage. But now on the flip side and the Bills defense, having been a part of international games, having had these conversations on how do you do it best? When do you leave? When do you do all these things? At least when I was last year, when I was in the league and having these conversations, the statistics and the data showed that the team that left the latest won the game the majority of the time so people were upset about them leaving on friday to play on sunday but at least when i
Starting point is 01:26:11 was there the reality of the situation was that the team that left the latest won so i mean didn't work out for them clearly um and i know they don't want to use it as an excuse but it also probably doesn't feel too good to be sitting there hearing like yeah we're, we're going to just have some fun and experiment with some things. We're trying to see how big of an advantage it is for guys to be acclimated to the time because 9.30 a.m., that's early, bro. That is an early time, especially for the Buffalo Bills. You only have 36 hours to get acclimated to the new time zone to play at 9.30 a.m. So you're going to start slow.
Starting point is 01:26:44 You would assume most teams that get over there and don't get fully transitioned into their time frame. But, yeah, you're right. Buffalo Bills are like, we experiment against like, I don't know, some trash-ass team. Patriots. If you're trying to think about this logistically,
Starting point is 01:27:00 this is a fascinating conversation. How would you make it work? Are you going to put a whole division over there, or are're going to put one or two teams and then the team's going to play two weeks back to back if you play on the london team do you have to have a house in london and a house in america like now you're now your family like your kids going to school like there's a million questions that are just fascinating well here's another one taxes am i getting taxed because if they have a home base in America, and also they're... So I'm getting taxed by London, because I'm working over there.
Starting point is 01:27:28 England. London. England. Probably something else. And then also the home base, wherever the home team is. There's like all those little things to be decided. But I think we all know that the inevitability of this all is that there's going to be a few teams over there as soon as technology makes it possible to fly over there quicker.'m excited for them to figure it out though because i think europe getting involved in football is good because if we get that hooligans oh yeah you know oh yeah
Starting point is 01:27:53 vibe in a football game we got it man we got it haven't you just turn on twitter any sunday there's fans just throwing haymakers every week oh you're right you're right we're talking about like singing songs getting after it, like the Burnley fans. Like the Burnley fans. How are we? Do we stink? Are we good?
Starting point is 01:28:12 We can move on to the next topic. Oh! Religions! Kelsey boys! We started out 1-0. We went up 1-0, and it was incredible and awesome. We were playing good. And then Raheem Sterling just had a phenomenal
Starting point is 01:28:26 game on the left wing. That'll happen. Put it to us. We lost 4-1. We're in the international break now, but we have a big game against Brentford coming up next week, Saturday. Any of your guys play international? Yeah, we got guys all over the place. We got a guy
Starting point is 01:28:41 in Norway, we got a Moroccan, we got a bunch of good guys. When are we going to win again? We winning again soon? Whenever we get back, we think? We got a good chance to get to win? Next week, Saturday, is what we're looking at, man. I'm considering flying over just for the game and flying back.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I have an itch. I got an itch to get out there, man. I want to get to it. Yeah, they need you, too. Why don't you bust your nose over there? Why don't you get a little blood? Why don't you show them that thigh? Why don't you lift your pants? Why don't you bruise yourself? We go over there and let them know what it could be like.
Starting point is 01:29:10 So we lose to Chelsea, obviously. We're down there ranked, oh no, bottom three is where we need not be, right? Correct. We need to get out of there. Oh no! Come on, Burnley. Will you start climbing the ladder? It's a long season, boys. You guys should get messy. Get messy.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Talk to Ryan Reynolds. He knows how to do it. Yeah. Rexham. See, I don't think Rexham's at this level. I don't think. I think they're still. Yeah, they're below.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I believe. Way below. They're a couple below. Why don't you get messy? Get messy. Yeah. No, I mean, I put in a call. Still waiting to hear back.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Good, AJ. JJ, say you were still playing, you were a free agent, and there was, say, a division in London. How seriously would you look at that team to go sign with them and go play over there? I mean, the logistics of it are fascinating. I don't know how that would all work, but I do think that the expansion of it, I do think that the fan base is over there. I think it's really exciting. I think it's a great
Starting point is 01:30:08 time. I mean, I obviously invested in an English football club. I love it over there. I love London. I love all of it. So I really do think it would be fun. I think it would be great. I just talk about your body recovering and figuring out how to make all that work. I mean, it would be so damn difficult from that standpoint. But you would also be like kind of a pioneer on starting something new over there. And I mean, yeah, could I absolutely see that there's an entire division over there someday? Or, I mean, way, way, way down the line, you literally have the American and the European division or something like that. It could be really cool. I think it could be sweet.
Starting point is 01:30:43 It's going to take the right people, though. Like, they're going to have to get star power over there. And you know how the NHL does the expansion draft. The NHL makes the new teams good immediately because they want fans to kind of hop on board and get there. It's been a while, what, since the Texans? Is that the last expansion team the NFL has done, I think? Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:31:01 The Texans in 2001, I believe. You know what was fascinating? I was watching that Pens game last night, and it was like 10 Texans in 2001, I believe. You know what was fascinating? I was watching that Pens game last night, and it was like 10.30 p.m., and they were going into the third period. So they're playing the Blackhawks in Pittsburgh. Today, the Blackhawks are in Boston playing the Bruins. That schedule is wild. That game didn't finish until like 11 o'clock last night.
Starting point is 01:31:23 They now have to, as you know, pack up, eat everything, get on a plane, fly, land, drive to a hotel, and now they're already going to be on the ice again here in a couple hours. That's pretty wild. Well, and they have a morning skate too normally whenever they get to a place. And then they have their afternoon nap. I guess in the NHL world, from what I understand,
Starting point is 01:31:40 this afternoon nap thing, like we could be mockable, you know, because it's like babies take naps like that is not what adults do it's like i guess the nhl afternoon nap is like one of the most vital things in the entire nhl guys have like a two and a half hour slot where it's like nobody call this particular guy for two and a half hours he's a napper for three hours he's a 90 minute napper so we need to do things like That is how they survive. The NBA as well. The NBA runs a very limited sleep.
Starting point is 01:32:08 I have no idea how they figure it out. But these boys are going to play. That's what Rich Paul told us. Yeah, that's right. It's more the teams looking out for the players as opposed to the players saying, we don't want to play is what Rich told us yesterday. Happy we played football.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I'm happy I played a position and never got hit. On the flip side of that. Speaking of injuries and stuff, Tone Diggs has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, a guy that you played with, Deshaun Watson, he was cleared by doctors but not cleared by himself. How does that work? And, like, is there any added motivation when you get paid $230 million guaranteed to play when you're cleared by doctors but not yourself?
Starting point is 01:32:49 Answer the question, JJ. I don't know the full details of the situation, obviously, but if that's how it is put, that cleared by doctors and not cleared by yourself, sometimes it's the other way around sometimes you're cleared by yourself and not by the doctors most times I feel like that's kind of the most of the conversation that's why
Starting point is 01:33:12 what's going on in Cleveland is such a big convo because it's like normally the doctors are pretty hesitant too nowadays because of everything that had happened I think in the NFL a little bit more hesitant to clear people now because they don't want to have the narrative of like, we only care about the teams, you know, to hell with these players.
Starting point is 01:33:31 So it's like for the team to announce that he's cleared from our doctors and then him saying, I don't feel right. It's interesting. There's got to be something. There's got to be something more going on there where he's just not capable of doing what he needs to do or he's not like physically, yes, you're not going to hurt yourself more're not maybe you're still not able to do what you want to do i don't know i don't know but yeah i know uh i think there's probably a lot of times where i should
Starting point is 01:33:53 not have been cleared for most likely you're a practice guy you're a big practice guy every day you're doing practice full speed every uh yeah that was probably to my detriment probably to my detriment uh i thought it was extremely important. I wanted to be in full pads and go out there and play. I'm a big believer in you have to play football to be better at football. And, yeah, it probably was not the smartest take. AQ, you agree with JJ? That's what you did as well?
Starting point is 01:34:19 I looked forward later in my career to Wednesdays off and then Thursday, Friday, no pads. But I did – I agree with him. I didn't need to be out there to see it. If I was in spiders and could kind of get through it mentally, I was okay. I've never, did you see this offensive lineman flop the other night, JJ? Did you see this thing? I have, I've seen the reactions from you guys. I hadn't actually seen the play. Good news. We got it. Here it is. Fifties. Here you're looking at. Here it is, 50s, who you're looking at. Goal!
Starting point is 01:34:46 That's offensive lineman now, JJ. AQ would never. AQ would never. They don't make them like they used to. Hey, let's talk about Max Crosby. We've talked about a couple different pass rushers. He is game wrecker. Supposed to have Chandler Jones on the other side. Obviously, that is not the case this year.
Starting point is 01:34:58 But what he's been able to do, I think, is not getting chatted about enough because the Raiders are, what, 2-3 or whatever? Yes. They were staring down being this team that's throwaway. He's unbelievable at what he does. Yeah, Max is a phenomenal player. And I think that the way that he flies around, the way that he plays the game, how hard he goes, the way he plays the run. I mean, he just terrorizes people in the run and the pass.
Starting point is 01:35:20 And like you said, he's kind of doing it not by himself, but I mean, he is a mass majority of the production of that defense. And you know, like if you're going into a game against the Raiders, you have to stop one guy first. And yet he still goes out there and he plays great football. So I'm a big fan of the way he plays the game, big fan of the energy he plays it with. And you can't play with a guy like that and not want to play 100 miles an hour yourself because you're like look at this guy he's like i mean his nickname is the condor i believe and that's that's pretty badass nickname yeah it's a sick nickname especially in a time where it's tough to find a new nickname that's sick the condor is certainly a good one and if you even
Starting point is 01:35:57 think about him the person like he's sober right yeah publicly sober he's in vegas yeah you know what i mean like that is you think about the mental discipline that he's had to develop through his life and the state that he's in and the way he's playing football. And you would think that maybe some people would turn soft. He's chirping. He's talking shit. He's doing his whole thing. I remember you being mic'd up.
Starting point is 01:36:19 You're a big-time chirper. I don't think that gets talked about much. Time to time. Time to time. I know. I heard that one said, shouldn't have picked on J.J. Wong. You know what the one might top thing? Then there's the Cardinals.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Maybe we're just better. Yeah. Maybe we're just better. Sorry. Yeah, you were a big talker whenever that switch would go on, wouldn't it? Yeah, I mean, you get that adrenaline flowing. You start to feel pretty good. You get in the zone.
Starting point is 01:36:44 I mean mean the best one that i had was definitely uh there was a game against the saints and i had a i had a enjoyable day that day and i was letting them have it a little bit they they had a backup tackle in and they left them one-on-one and so i just kept looking at the sidelines after every big play i would make and i was just like you guys would give him some help. I was sort of begging them, like, please give him some help. Delaney Walker was another guy that I had a bunch of good battles with. He was in Tennessee for a very long time. And he would always be in charge of chipping me on the edges.
Starting point is 01:37:16 And so we would just have full-blown conversations at the line of scrimmage. Like we would line up and I'd be like, oh, son of a bitch. And he'd be like, yep, I'm right here. I'm right here. So I'd try and move my alignment outside. I'd try and move my alignment inside. And he would just move wherever I moved. And he was a good chipper.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Like, some guys don't chip that well. I mean, that Ravens one, obviously, on TJ kind of whiffed there. Delaney Walker didn't whiff. He gave some serious shots right in the rib cage. So I respect that. I respect the hell out of him, and he made my job harder for sure. Delaney Walker, AFC South legend, dude. He got in a fight with Ewol, I think
Starting point is 01:37:49 in a couple of our games. Yeah, he's awesome. Delaney Walker was awesome to watch play. Is he a big boat guy? Yeah. He has a cigarette boat. He's got big boats down there. Yeah, living down there. He was on the show talking about it. I think he's with Bussin now. I think he's doing some stuff with Bussin. Great personality. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, JJ,
Starting point is 01:38:06 after the Niners thoroughly beat the piss out of the Cowboys on Sunday night, us and kind of everyone else has just crowned them champions pretty much. Obviously, everyone's been talking about the offense and Brock Purdy and rightfully so. They have so many weapons, but on the defensive side, it seems like there's only a handful
Starting point is 01:38:22 of guys that kind of get all the chatter, but they are unbelievable on the D-line. Theirbackers are insane so is their secondary uh a how fun would it be to play on that defense and b do you think there's any truth to like oh hey they might be peaking too early and they're going to be in trouble down the road they're a damn good football team man i don't know about peaking too early. They're just so good, and they seem to have the best chemistry, and they seem to have the guys that kind of understand it and just have fun with it while also just dominating everybody they play. I mean, you talk about guys on that defense.
Starting point is 01:38:55 I think it's crazy how many players are in that team from, you know, Trent Williams, George Kittle, Purdy. I mean, all these names, Bosa. And I think people are starting to come around on it, but Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw are playing as good as any linebackers in the league. I mean, maybe as good as any middle linebackers since a couple of 49ers guys in Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman. I mean, there is just something about middle linebacker wearing that 49ers uniform,
Starting point is 01:39:24 and these two fit that perfectly. I mean, Fred Warner flies all over the field. He's one of the smartest players in the league. He always knows what's going on, and then he just goes. This play is one of my favorite plays. It's been shown a lot this week. Breaks up the mesh concept, forces the back to pull the ball down, and then goes and gets the sack.
Starting point is 01:39:41 I mean, the mental aspect of that play and the physical skills and ability to be able to make it all happen is unbelievable. So he covered two guys there pretty much, right? He covered two guys, disrupted both of those. And the quarterback. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Unbelievable. Run that play one more time. It's incredible. He covers both crosses. He's covering both those guys right now, pretty much. Jack's supposed to just drop that off right now to them. Yep. instead of both of them splits him then he doesn't run at dac right away he kind of stays on the line of scrimmage just kind of like hang on hang on now he puts his hands up forces him to pull the ball down and oh yeah i might as well just make the sack i'm here
Starting point is 01:40:20 anyway like what a damn play man and he's one of the nicest guys too. I mean, literally after the game, we'll come up and talk like he's, I just, I have a lot of respect for Fred Warner. He does a lot of chirping as well. I got a chance to watch a play. I think he's electrifying both during the play and post play. The conversation out of that game though,
Starting point is 01:40:36 is that Dak stinks. I think that Niners defense probably gonna make a lot of people stink. Yeah. I mean, like you lose one game and it's against a very very good football team and all of a sudden i feel like we have this thing now with former players that are analysts that love to just trash on guys like i don't know if it's clicks or what it is but i mean we're tossing around terms like garbage like trash like sucks and i'm like you were a player once like you know like
Starting point is 01:41:02 like you don't this game is hard yes like can guys improve and play. Like, you don't – this game is hard. Yes. Like, can guys improve and play better? Yes. But I don't know where we got off now just throwing so much dirt on top of people when we were all in those shoes once. And, yeah, you've had a bad game. You want to put up a low-light reel of me?
Starting point is 01:41:18 You could make me look like the worst player in NFL history. I mean, I've been crack-blocked by a receiver and knocked on my ass before. You put that up, yeah, I look like garbage too. Like, I don't know. I just, we can be critical without being just downright ridiculous. We'll have that low-light reel for JJ next week. Need to ask a question for you. JJ, a guy who's definitely not garbage, Jalen Carter in Philly.
Starting point is 01:41:41 We see what this guy can do on the interior D-line. When you watch him play, how do you ever block this guy? Dude, it's fun to watch him play, man. I mean, he is big, he moves extremely well, and he's strong as an ox. I mean, he throws people out of the way. He understands the position very well. He knows how to play double teams. He knows how to rush the passer. He has good counter moves. To be as big, physical, and strong as he is as a rookie, combined with the knowledge and the technical ability of playing the position he has, man, is it a lot of fun to watch. And it's a position that, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:17 you don't, people don't love, like, it's not like people are cracking on the tape and they can't wait to watch D Tackle play. Trust me, I know I've been one, but he makes it fun to watch the position and he's just throwing giant human beings out of the way. Looks like Philly's got a special one for a long time up there. Only going to get better too, right? That's like a matter of fact. The more reps you have in the NFL, the better you're going to get and the stronger he's going to somehow get as well.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Yeah. I mean, obviously he's got now the full-time job. Now, I always tell people that when I got to the NFL, you don't have classes anymore. You have enough money to have the proper nutrition, to buy the proper things, to recover, to have the best bed to sleep in. You know, you got all the right things. So now he's only going to get bigger, faster, stronger, and he's going to get comfortable playing against NFL offenses. He's going to learn these cadences and rhythms. He's going to learn little tips and tricks. He's going to get good, man.
Starting point is 01:43:07 They call him the Rhino over there. It makes a lot of sense. Darius has the last question for you here, JJ. Yeah, I got a question. We've talked enough football. Let's go to another great sport. I'm a one-man show in here when it comes to this sport. Everyone else hates it.
Starting point is 01:43:19 But I heard that you recently became a fan of F1. T-T-I-N-E. Relax, relax. That's of F1. D-9. Relax, relax. Max, we're stopping one again. Good question, D-boy. Are you still watching? Boom! That's going better.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Boom! Are you still watching even with Max dominating? And if you get a chance, are you going to their race in Vegas next month? So it's a great question. Honestly, the domination has made it a little bit less enticing to watch, I have to say. But then you can also go to the argument, well, Mercedes have been dominating for so many years with Lewis. But I went to the race in Miami last year. A, it was unbelievably hot, and B, obviously it being a racetrack,
Starting point is 01:44:12 there's only so many entrances to get in. You have to, like, walk over the track. So it was very, very, very crowded and very tough. And then finally, you can't see anything. You can stand there, and you can be sitting in the stands. There's nothing happening. It's the worst. It sounds amazing. It sounds amazing. It's a pit pass. Hey, JJ,
Starting point is 01:44:28 we appreciate the hell out of you on this day. Don't be wasting your time with that. Wow, what a putt off. They really don't want to be talked about on this show. Hey, it's tough over here, JJ. Buddy, I mean, there's just like so many, like IndyCar about 10 times better. NASCAR, it's not even getting crazy. There's some go-kart
Starting point is 01:44:43 tracks down here that are just much better racing here. Pinnacle Motorsports. Yeah. Pinnacle. Yeah, right. All right. Let me read what they say
Starting point is 01:44:51 on Netflix. Okay. We see the cars just... I don't want to piss off the people in Indy, so I will say Sprint Car is great. No, that's good.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Sprint Car is good, too. Sprint Car is good. You know you're racing. I grew up in Wisconsin. They had the dirt track stuff. I loved it. Slinger Speedway. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Shout out Slinger Speedway. Shout out to them and to you for watching. We'll see you tomorrow. Sports 107. Nailed it. Absolutely nailed it. Hey, we're still live, but I mean, I hit that one right on screws there. That's the reason why I pivoted away from it.
Starting point is 01:45:19 But also, we didn't know F1 talk was coming. Yeah, what are we doing? We're having a good Wednesday. What the hell was that? The NHL had the puck drop, you know, last night. The NFL's got a lot of stuff happening right now. Oh, yeah. We got J.J. Watt on.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I mean, that's baseball. You want to see ratings drop. Talk NHL and F1. No. Not the... Come on, Tony. Not NHL. Did we like...
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Starting point is 01:45:59 T.J. T.J. T.J. T Hey, Paul. I love hockey, man. I love it. I love to get on the ice. I actually just got fitted. TJ's birthday gift to me this year was a full set of hockey gear. Skates, everything.
Starting point is 01:46:14 He got skates for my son, too. It was a pretty badass gift. Hey, it's TJ's birthday today. What'd you buy him? Same thing? Oh, I should have mentioned that on the show. We're still on the show, but you're right. You should have said it on ESPN. I don't know why I thought we're not on the show. We're still on the show, but you're right. You should have said it on ESPN.
Starting point is 01:46:25 I don't know why I thought we're not on the show. Yeah, come on. Happy birthday, Trent. So proud of you, buddy. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, my brother. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Trent.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Happy birthday, Trent. No, I got him. He's very – TJ is very like – he likes very thoughtful, like funny, but thoughtful Small little gifts He hasn't got them yet So I don't want to say what they are Smart smart There's a lot of little
Starting point is 01:46:49 A lot of little things In the sentimental importance Give him a pool guy Please Yeah we need a pool guy So he's not out there doing everything Good call back Good call back
Starting point is 01:46:58 I worry about him But yeah the skates thing was really cool So now I go down There's a bunch of Arizona Coyotes Like a bunch of the guys that play a pickup game, and they invited me out to play a pickup game with them. They're still a team?
Starting point is 01:47:09 Yeah, I hit the – yeah, they play at Arizona. Why don't you buy that team? It's a nice team. You bought the Burnley team. Why don't you buy that team? Probably costs as much as a hobby. People tell me stuff like that all the time. Like, I don't know how much money you think I have.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Like, yes, I'm very, very fortunate. I do not have that kind of money. What are we talking about? Yeah, you just walk in and claim the team. They give it to you. Yeah, that's how it works. It doesn't cost anything. Oh, Burnley, I like to win. Can I just plant my flag?
Starting point is 01:47:32 Yeah. Bingo. I'll take it. I think with the Coyote, that would actually work. Sure. Joining us back after getting throttled by Max Verstappen, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawks. Hey.
Starting point is 01:47:41 A.J., you missed some good conversation about hockey. Did you watch the hockey last night, A.J.? I did watch a good amount of that. I mean, what a heartbreaker for the hockey. Did you watch the hockey last night, AJ? I did watch a good amount of that. I mean, what a heartbreaker for the Pens. They had it the whole way. Oh, why is everybody bringing this up? It was brutal. Are you a Blue Jackets guy?
Starting point is 01:47:56 Not as much right now. I'm going to call it an Avalanche fan at the moment. Have been for a few years. So his brother-in-law, Jack Johnson, huge mitts. Huge. We're talking about frying pan mitts. I've never seen something like it. That's his brother-in-law, so he's pulling for wherever he goes. He actually got a chance to chug out a Lord Stanley
Starting point is 01:48:12 because Jack Johnson became a Stanley Cup champion. Is it everything you hoped it would be? It was pretty amazing, not going to lie. Jack actually just took a puck to the face and split his whole other side of his lip yesterday or two days ago. So he's doing well. That is a good thing about hockey players.
Starting point is 01:48:28 They will put their faces in front of these little rubber things and say, bust out my teeth. That's what I want to do. I want to win a game. You would have been a pro hockey player? Did you like the ref mic'd up thing? Have you guys talked about that? This was a beautiful moment between Kelly Sutherland,
Starting point is 01:48:44 Sidney Crosby, and the future of the NHL, Connor Bedard, right before the puck drop on opening night. Oh, damn it. I missed it very much. Connor, welcome to the NHL, man. Hey, guys. It's showtime.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Let's have a great game. Sid didn't say a thing, though. Nope. Sid didn't say anything. And Kelly S didn't say anything And Kelly Sutherland Was waiting until Connor looked at him too Connor Welcome to the NHL
Starting point is 01:49:13 Thank you Thanks Let me fix all my Oh you're dropping a puck Oh fuck Alright let's get this thing started Kid forgot his stick Going out there to begin with
Starting point is 01:49:20 He's the future How much do you know about him? I know a little bit I mean I know he's he's obviously an unbelievable player at the junior level but i mean to his credit like tuned in last night just to watch him play like i want to see what that was like i want to see uh how he played i saw the whole stick thing i saw the story behind the stick thing which was a whole another rabbit hole i went down which i went pretty deep in the hockey rabbit hole last night
Starting point is 01:49:43 so that's a thing, the stick thing? Because I know he had his helmet was off. Yes, and they let him and the other rookie, I think, do the pregame skate without the helmets, but then you sent in another thing that was pretty sweet about his mom, too. Yeah, his... Fuck. His mom...
Starting point is 01:50:00 Yes, his mom with the coach. Yes. So his mom wanted to move into a... No, JJ, you pick. the coach. Yes. So his mom wanted to move into it. No, JJ, you pick. Slow down. Jesus. I just react to the words I hear. Well, we appreciate you being that invested in the conversation and reacting to everything.
Starting point is 01:50:16 But the way you reacted tells us a little bit more about you than it tells about us. Just want to let you know that. But anyways, here's the coach of the Chicago Blackhawks talking about an interaction with Conor Bedard's mom. We were going to move into the same apartment building I was in, and his mom was like, well, yeah, we don't want to get too far ahead, and he's got to make the team.
Starting point is 01:50:36 And I kind of looked at her, and I said, I think you can look at her. That's that hockey mentality, though, like the most humble group of humans of all time. It feels like it's an old school throwback sport you love the sport would you have been a pro if you would have played stuck with it i assume you would have i mean i like to believe so i mean i truly love that sport man i started skating when i was three years old and i love that sport i still say like the puck hit in the back of the net is one of the greatest feelings in all sports and i had so much
Starting point is 01:51:03 fun doing it um but i also at the very same time and now that i'm an adult and i see it all so my parents we had to stop playing because it's literally too expensive um you have to buy new skates you have to buy new gear basically every year because you're growing and so when we had to stop i cried and i cried and i cried um and it was so sad for me but now now that I'm an adult, I feel so terrible that I like was, I feel like selfish because I was sitting there crying and as a parent to see your kid crying because you can't afford for them
Starting point is 01:51:34 to play a sport that they want to play. Like, I can't believe I put them through that because I can't only imagine now seeing my son with that reaction. So I feel bad. Apologies to my parents, but thank you for supporting it as long as you did. Hey, hockey's expensive.
Starting point is 01:51:47 That's what they say, and they don't really explain it much, but here's JJ. Now that goalie, obviously treason. Yeah, come on. Right there immediately, but we need to have a JJ. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Hey. It's a bomb. A little C-bar south. A little C-bar south, baby. Hey, you're a fucking guy on the ice, JJ. That's for real. Oh, it is for real man I love it up there in Wisconsin you have to be basically it puts put on skates as soon as you can walk in
Starting point is 01:52:10 my dad would take me to the rink all the time and play hockey and we'd go to Milwaukee Admirals games that's really one of the first professional sports experiences that I had where I got to go see it and I got to you know catch tickets dropping down from the blimp uh i used to love those moments and that's one of those things that inspired me to be a professional athlete i'd go watch the milwaukee admirals play and i'd think to myself one day i could be out there warming up with the pros and it didn't happen to be hockey for me but it did help me get the nfl hey you got some mitts too huh you're dangling a little bit you You would have had to fight. We got any skaters on the show? Anybody here skate?
Starting point is 01:52:46 No, we played on the street. We skated in New England. I can skate. Yeah, you have to skate in New England. I'm from Michigan. Same deal as Wisconsin. It's exactly what JJ just said. You guys are skating on lakes trying to do triple axels.
Starting point is 01:52:58 No, we aren't. No, we aren't. No. You're not Gordon Bob Day. I've seen the video. I've played hockey before I've played any other sport. Okay, yeah, I. You're not Gordon Bob Day. I'm saying the video. I played hockey before I played any other sport. Okay, yeah, I'm sure you did. I'm sure you did.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Real hockey cities. That's how it works. Yeah, right. You guys are sailing up there. You're on the summer. What'd you say? The beanpot up there in Boston. Thank you, JJ.
Starting point is 01:53:21 I mean, let these guys know. My God, it's about time. Someone with some real hockey sense came in here. Ty can skate. We see him skate around these guys know. My God, it's about time. So with some real hockey sense came in here. Ty can skate. We see him skate around the office all the time. Yeah, that's right. I prefer blades. That's my weapon of choice. But, you know, yeah, if you want to get me out on the ice, I'll fucking go blue line to blue line pretty goddamn
Starting point is 01:53:35 quick. Yeah. Come on. We just, we just, oh, we're not on the nevermind. All right. Gosh, I'm a amateur. Get me out of here. What a shit show. Sorry. I thought he said death bomb on the air again. No, that's only you. Yeah. That's only you.
Starting point is 01:53:48 He's professional. The window has closed, my friend. We can say it right now. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Do you want to let something fly, JJ, now that you're all grown up and you're a dad and your kid's watching? Do you want to drop any? Here's Ty.
Starting point is 01:54:00 This is Ty. Oh, no. You can see that's quite the drop off the stage there. I mean, you're not technically doing that on your standard break. Those are sick plays. Run that back. Run that back. Yeah, this is the launch of the NHL playoffs, I think.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Look at the dangles. Goal. Yeah. Score. Yeah. What. Yeah. What were you it looked like you knew the drop-off
Starting point is 01:54:29 was there and yet Bill botched it. Yeah, he's trying to do a little trick. He's trying to do some tricks. By the way, our TV's being leveled by a couple DVDs.
Starting point is 01:54:37 Yeah. If we want to look at the old school off-paws, look at the bottom. The helmet. Yeah, well, that's the only hockey league. That's the only hockey bucket we had at the bottom of the helmet yeah well that's only hockey league that's the only hockey bucket we had at this time just yet that's why we bought that one actually
Starting point is 01:54:50 uh but yeah that tv's down there yeah yeah you know you think the stage would be level but over time that just doesn't happen anymore no boy that place was such a shithole i mean it was fun. I am so happy we are not in there every single day anymore. It is great to be here. The ceiling in there. That doesn't get enough time. Clap it up for the progress of the show.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Hey, you're right. Clap it up. Clap it up. Clap it up. You've been watching Gary Vee's breaks on Fanatics Live. Have you seen any of these? No. I can't say I have.
Starting point is 01:55:24 What is it? I'll send you the link next time they're going. Yeah, you'll love it. It is must watch. Make sure you got a nice glass of vino if you're watching. Yeah, in about 10 hours because you will not be able to turn it off. I'll tell you what, I got captivated in there. I got lost in there. I watched your plans. That's what I'm saying. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:39 The wife was really like trading cards. It's like opening cards. Well, it's Gary V opening Gary V Mon, which are the cards that he created. He's the boss. And he's beat the boss of the game where he's going against somebody in the chat. And he's living and dying with every one of these cards that he's doing. I mean, it is. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:55:57 I almost saw that guy get broken because there was a slow snail that came through and dropped an elbow on his optimistic apostle. Yeah, he lost a luka donkic rookie card and he it basically seemed as though one of his kids died and then he also mentioned right after he's got about 15 luka donkic rookie cards so it didn't matter yeah it was an awesome night we spent a night with gary v and uh i did not plan on being there that long but yeah me and about 300 others sat on X and watched. Couldn't stop. From the very beginning to the end. What a treat.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Gary, thank you for everything. Love you, Gary. Thank you. I would say my wife was not happy at all. Why? Yeah. She couldn't see the electricity. She couldn't sleep because she was too excited.
Starting point is 01:56:38 She couldn't sleep. I don't know if it got her so jacked up. She only had the audio. She didn't have the video. Need both. Need to see gary right while listening to gary she could only hear him yelling out of my phone because i had that thing at max too because i didn't want to miss no any words in that entire thing right i'll send you the link
Starting point is 01:56:54 next time jj get you inspired i love inside jokes i'd love to be a part of it all right sweet maybe one day ladies Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Watt. Thank you, buddy. I have a random question. What do you mean? Out of nowhere. You watch Gary Vee? Random? Well, he said clap it up. That's the last time I heard that.
Starting point is 01:57:13 We asked everybody that. You asked Trey Young that. Yeah, I know. That's what got me thinking. You asked Trey Young. Big Gary Vee guy? He's like, well, yeah, he comes to the game. I know he's front row.
Starting point is 01:57:22 Gary, keep doing these breaks, dude. You're right back in my algorithm. Is that what it's called? A break? Yeah, breaking boxes, dude. But he's doing it live on what? Fanatics Live, X, Instagram, TikTok, MySpace, Facebook, Discord. I know.
Starting point is 01:57:38 I'm just asking for the people that don't know so they can go find it. You don't have to go find it. You have a friend that will got i had a very nice friend that sent me a link and said hey you will thank me later and then 12 hours later i sent you a thank you you're welcome but you and me were on the sideline down there at the red River Rivalry in Dallas, Texas, Texas State Fair. One of the greatest environments I've ever seen. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:58:09 250,000 people at the State Fair. Then he got another 100,000 people in the Cotton Bowl watching these two teams battle. The one star of the game, Dylan Gabriel, quarterback of Oklahoma. Rushed for over 100, threw for over 250-plus. Absolute dog. But on the defensive side for Oklahoma, a man that we knew of because his stats were ridiculous. He was leading the Big 12 in tackles before the game,
Starting point is 01:58:31 still doing that afterwards. A man who stole the show because he's built like a damn defensive end playing middle linebacker. Number 28, ladies and gentlemen, Danny Stutzman. Yay! Hey, what's up, guys? Hey, sick shirt. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:58:49 Let's dive right into it. That's a picture after the big-time win of you smoking a cigar. I'll see you. Is this for sale right now? It is for sale, actually. Appreciate you trying to plug in my merch. You can find it on my Twitter. I am also, at the end of the day, a broke college student, so anything helps.
Starting point is 01:59:05 I'll send you guys some no, don't send us we'll buy 20 of them and make you have a good time and Norman hopefully will be able to contribute to the boys having a night sometime do you guys still do that? Boys still have nights? yeah man it happens all the time, especially with the bye week
Starting point is 01:59:19 some of the guys get together, maybe hit a karaoke night or something like that, you know how it goes okay, so the boys over here would like to send the boys and Norman through your T-shirt 10 to 15 drinks. So we'll buy 50 of those shirts, and then we'll end up giving them away. We're proud of you, man. Way to run a little business, too, in the middle of this whole thing. Let's move along here in the conversation. Texas, the convo was, they're big, they're fast, they're strong.
Starting point is 01:59:44 They've already proven themselves. They beat Alabama at Alabama. Oklahoma, with the stink that your team had surrounding you last year, coming into this year, I think people were just expecting you guys to fall in the big moment. Then we saw this video after the game of a speech that you gave beforehand, and I think you all knew immediately you were going to win but you speaking to the team has made its way public and this is a little bit of a highlight of that They got to feel this, man. Every day. I'm certain about two things in life. I'm certain that one, Oklahoma only fears God. And number two, Texas fears Oklahoma. Whoa!
Starting point is 02:00:33 What a moment. Was that the message all week from Venables and you and the boys? We got to be more physical because that was certainly the case. Is that the mindset going in? And congrats to you guys executing. I mean, absolutely, man. Physicality is the number one thing in football, especially in that Red River rivalry, man.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Looking back at the history of it, the team that wins the rushing battle and the team that wins the turnover margins, the team that's going to win the game, man. And that's how you got to dominate up front, man, and that's how it's done. So that kind of was the whole emphasis, man. It's been the emphasis since last year, obviously losing 49-0. And as a competitor, man, that's embarrassing. That's humiliating, you know, being a part of that.
Starting point is 02:01:11 But, you know, we had a lot of guys, you know, leave their winter break early, get back on campus, you know, 49 med balls every single day, pretty much at workouts, be reminded of that. And it's just the grind that we were willing to do, you know, for that moment right there. Love to hear about that. Did you black out in the middle of that speech or was that premeditated out there yeah pretty much man i feel like i felt like i kind of remembered that d-hop clip of him
Starting point is 02:01:34 talking about how he only fears god and i kind of like kind of kind of took apart from that and then kind of made it my own and i because i remember uh dan cody you know another crazy defensive end that played oklahoma told me you always got to have a crazy speech. And so now I try to think of some stuff to really get the guys going. But, you know, kind of off the dome right there. Just want to get the guys pumped. Obviously, in a game like that at 11 a.m., a lot of emotion, man. You know, especially with a lot of people that didn't believe in us.
Starting point is 02:01:59 You know, like yourself, Pat. We saw the clip. Yeah, okay. But, hey, it's okay. That's what we need. I know now. I learned. Yeah, okay. But hey, it's okay. That's what we need. I know now. I learned. Okay, I apologize.
Starting point is 02:02:07 I can only go off the information that I have in the moment in which I'm speaking. Yes. And that Texas team, when we saw it play against Alabama, it was like, this looks like college football playoff team. Like, this is what this looks like. And I hadn't seen you guys in person. As soon as we saw you guys, we're like, hold the phone now. Hey, Oklahoma's got some big boys, yourself included, Danny.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Loved watching your team. Go ahead, AJ. So we were lucky enough to be right there in the end zone on the sidelines the whole game. Is there any way for you to explain in words what that felt like once the clock hit zero and you guys won? We were watching you guys celebrate. We could just see how excited, like it just seemed like the greatest moment. And so what was it like on the field afterwards and also in the locker room? Yeah, you know, on that field, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:46 specifically that last play, you know, obviously when there's like a Hail Mary type of play like that where you can't really control because you're not in the end zone, you know, being a white guy that can't really jump, they don't want you back there. They actually, they blitzed me, you know, probably a little bit better idea than just run back there. But, you know, the ball was in the air for like,
Starting point is 02:03:02 it felt like forever, man, just kind of feeling hopeless because you can't do anything back there, you know. But obviously when the ball hit the ground um you know the ball was in the air for like it felt like forever man just kind of feeling hopeless because you can't do anything back there you know but obviously when the ball hit the ground you know that sense of relief man you know working so hard for that moment obviously it's just one game in the regular season but you know it means a lot to the state of oklahoma you know looking in the locker room and seeing where that trophy case looking all empty especially for the guys before us us being keepers of the room you know having that trophy there for so long you know it's kind of been the narrative that what Oklahoma does and, you know, get it back finally, you know, kind of clear up all that, that bad
Starting point is 02:03:32 juju to say, man, just really, really proud of the team and how they perform. Yeah. And if you think about the Oklahoma fans, if their year round life is anything like what we saw, The amount of shit talking from Texas and Oklahoma. I mean, everybody is this, like everybody, in people's faces. Soon as you see just somebody wearing orange, boom, right there.
Starting point is 02:03:53 If you're an Oklahoma fan. And if you're a Texas fan, as soon as you see anybody wearing Oklahoma stuff, it's like right in the face. So you guys last year, I assume Texas fans thought you guys were dead. Like, Venables has come in. This is going to be a whole new team. So to get that win at that moment, I assume Texas fans thought you guys were dead. Like, Venables has come in. This is going to be a whole new team. So to get that win at that moment, I assume it's not just the players that are feeling incredible, the coaches that are feeling incredible, but the Oklahoma fans can once again say,
Starting point is 02:04:15 hey, we're a fucking wag. You guys really are. Like, do you have the belief? And you said 49 med ball throws, and obviously you think about everything in the 49-0 game since then. But going into this year, did it feel like this team had the makings of a team that can go on a run because you are right now in a driver's seat to get everything that every team wants at the beginning of the season going in did you guys know that and how do you feel about the boys now absolutely man you know with coach venables and the culture that he's brought you know we're really prepared every
Starting point is 02:04:43 single week you know we we prepare to a standard, we're really prepared every single week. We prepare to a standard, not to the opponent. So every single week, nothing changes. Really, we have a lot of talented guys. Last year, with Dylan Gabriel getting hurt and everything, it kind of set us back a little bit. But really talented team, man. A lot of hardworking guys show up every single day, committed to the standard, committed to what it takes, man.
Starting point is 02:04:59 Tell me about Dylan Gabriel. I mean, he was cerebral, methodical, and then he was 120 yards, I think, rushing on the ground whenever he needed it. Took some big shots as well in there. Didn't blink whenever they needed him to make a big-time play. Tell me about your quarterback and your guys' thoughts of him in the locker room. Yeah, Dylan has the it factor, man. You know, he's really a Heisman, you know, kind of dude right now, man.
Starting point is 02:05:24 The way he's playing, man, the way he can sling the ball. You know, I've played with a lot of great quarterbacks, you know, Caleb Williams, Spencer Radler. He's seen a lot of great guys come through here. But, you know, the way Dylan handles himself is already like a professional, man. You know, the way his eyes are, he looks one way and he's already known it's his decision. He slings the ball across the field the other way. And it's just talented the way the guy operates, man. And really, you know, we do team movies every single friday and i've never seen him watch the movies always on
Starting point is 02:05:48 his ipad watching film studying you know being the most prepared guy because he doesn't want to be the dude who makes makes that mistake that's how dylan every single day what was the movie before texas that dylan gabriel didn't watch all right so here so last year we watched the movie amsterdam awful movie and then for 11 a.m kickoff, we were supposed to watch 300. Didn't work. We watched Amsterdam, got our tail spanked. And so this year, no movie, went to bed super early, so we were really prepared.
Starting point is 02:06:17 Oh, I love that. I love that. Not even going to roll the dice on whether or not the movie stinks or can work. We got early bedtime. We got Texas in the morning. Darius has a question for you. Yeah, you guys were really prepared.
Starting point is 02:06:27 And obviously the identity, a lot of people say the team takes on identity of their coach. Want to know, number one, how is it playing for Brent Venables? And number two, like what was the mindset on that goal line stand? I know the defense started off the game. I think it was Gentry Williams with a pick on like a slant early. So you guys came out the gate firing. But what was said?
Starting point is 02:06:43 What was the mood in that huddle when it came to have a huge goal line stand for that defense? Yeah, you know, it started off with Coach Venables. You know, a lot of people don't know, but he's actually our scout team quarterback. And for your head coach to be the scout team quarterback and, you know, be a part of the defense, because realistically he built the defense. So when he's out there slinging the rock, you know,
Starting point is 02:07:02 kind of embarrassing these dudes, you know, we have to bring it every single day. And, you know, that's the type of dude you want as your head coach, man. Someone's out. He'll he'll he'll lower the shoulder. You know, he'll run you over. Is he in pads? Is he in pads? He's not in pads, man. But you'd be surprised, man. Coach, he's a guy waking up at 5 a.m. to run stadiums. And he actually hurt his meniscus and he was still at practice slinging the rock, man. It doesn't take all
Starting point is 02:07:26 the days off. Hold on, he's in a training room getting his ankles taped before practice. How you doing, stud? It's been a fucking cookie today. Is that real? He gets more treatment than I think some of the guys right now. He puts a lot through his body but kind of looking back at that
Starting point is 02:07:42 goal line stand, man, it's just the mentality, man. Obviously, when you get down to the one yard line, Texas you know, Texas has their jumbo package, you know, whatever that means, bringing in their defensive tackles. And we have our linebacker, you know, rolled down at D-end, you know, coming in there to Sam McCullough. Kudos to him, man, brought it to him, you know, smacked him. And then our Kip Lewis, a sophomore coming in, haven't played any snaps all game, making three big plays in on every tackle. And at that point, it's just heart, man. It's how bad you want it, man. How bad do you want to be remembered?
Starting point is 02:08:09 How bad do you want your legacy to go as Oklahoma Sooner? Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ. As far as how physical you guys were, like, that was a very, very physical game on both sides. But I noticed from the jump, from the first play, you guys, especially on defense and your offense too, you guys were trying to, like, you were the aggressors. You were going defense and your offense too you guys were trying
Starting point is 02:08:25 to like you were the aggressors you were going downhill and giving a little you know little nudges after the whistle and a little holding guys down for a second nothing dirty but you guys it looked like you were made out of conscious effort like hey we want to be the more physical team is that something that you guys take pride in 100 you know coach v always says good things comes to those who attack you know you can't really wait for anything man if you want it you got to go out and get it. And that's kind of been the mentality of this team all year. Hey, we're watching, you know, the game.
Starting point is 02:08:50 And I just got done with game day right into it. I just got done picking against you. Then go right into it, which I apologize. I learned. I learned. I do apologize. But then we go right into it. And then we do our first one.
Starting point is 02:09:02 And it was pick. I think first series went second play. You guys get a pick. And we went to like a commercial break, like 45 seconds into the game. into it and then we do our first one and it was pick i think first series what second play you guys get a pick and we went to like a commercial break like 45 seconds into the game those first five minutes were the longest five minutes in the history of football and just which is a compliment to you guys but as soon as it's up aj was like the oklahoma team is the one they're the you know what i mean and i was like what do you mean he was like look after the one. They're the, you know what I mean? And I was like, what do you mean? He was like, look after the play. Like, they're getting up off the guys.
Starting point is 02:09:28 Like, they are letting Texas know, like, hey, we are the physical ones here. And A.J. played the same exact way. So I think he knew early, like, hey, this is a little bit of a different game. It wasn't like you guys were scared, not that you should be. But with the complete opposite, you guys were supposed to win that game. It was cool to watch it unfold. We were lucky to be there. No phone service, didn't know what down it was, how many yards you had to go, but it was awesome to be there and watch your team work. AQ has a question
Starting point is 02:09:53 for you. Yeah, Danny, after a huge, huge, huge win early in the season, how do you avoid the letdown as we go later in the season? How do we kind of keep the foot on the gas pedal moving forward? Absolutely, man. That's a great question. You know, it's human nature to get complacent after a win like that, but obviously I talked about it earlier, you know, we prepared to a standard not to an opponent. So the way we prepared against Arkansas state was the exact same way we prepared for Texas, you know, into this bi-week, you know,
Starting point is 02:10:18 we had a Monday lift, had a lift this morning, you know, talk to the guys, look like this is where we separate ourselves from, you know, being a good team to being a great team. You know, I think good teams come into a bi-week, you know, talk to the guys, look like this is where we separate ourselves from, you know, being a good team to being a great team. You know, I think good teams come into a bye week, you know, kind of let off a little bit. Don't, don't put as much weight on that bar and great teams really, really push themselves, you know, really strive, you know, to do what it takes. You know, we have a full pad of practice today and we've already told the guys, look like this is where we have to be physical. And this is where the reps really count. You know, we can take care of our bodies, but every single practice matters. We can't let a day go by where we're
Starting point is 02:10:45 not getting better. You got a massive neck. Did you see that, AJ? As he was talking about, we got full pad practice today. You got a big-time neck. We're hitting today, huh? Stutz? 100%, man. Coach V's got to look out, man, because we're coming. Hey, tear his other meniscus.
Starting point is 02:11:01 You know what I mean? What are we even talking about? What's your nickname? They call you Stutz? Man, yeah, pretty much. Stutz, kind of. You know, I don't want to steal the Boz's thing, but, I mean, it kind of just rolls off the tongue smooth, but you know how it goes. Yeah, the nickname is a big part of it,
Starting point is 02:11:16 especially if you're going to have a merch line. Stutz doing his thing. Speaking of who you just mentioned, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Danny, we saw the Boz kind of patrolling the sidelines during the game, and then he was obviously in the locker room with you guys post game crazy because it seems like you are kind of the second coming of him in terms of just like the way you look out there your personality and everything what's your relationship uh like
Starting point is 02:11:37 with the boss and uh what what did you know did you have any time with him before the game where he kind of maybe gave you some advice going in? Yeah, you know, throughout the entire game, the boss on the sideline, you know, when you have one of the greatest linebackers to ever play, you know, really kind of revolutionize the position. You know, when he tells you something and, you know, when he's like, you've got to find the over by the tight end, you know, obviously that's your you're thinking that right away, man. This guy knows what he's talking about. And, you know, the boss is, you know, he's come by. He's been a part of the program a lot more. He spoke to the team before the season. He spoke to the team last year. It's all about mindset
Starting point is 02:12:10 and attitude and how the guy handles himself, man. Anything he says, I'm like a sponge for that knowledge, man, because he's been through it. He knows exactly what it takes, exactly what it looks like. What's your major? I was business, but I had to switch to communications. Sweet. I was communications major as well.
Starting point is 02:12:26 I did not finish. I'm still in my pursuit of my degree. Sounds like you're a pretty intelligent dude, though. Is that just football IQ? I'd say it's a little bit of both. Obviously, Coach Venables is always – that's a dude that has memory like an elephant, man. He's always spitting off stats. I think the first time I met him, he took us to dinner, and I sat sat next to him and he was quizzing me with stuff and i got every single question
Starting point is 02:12:48 wrong and at that point i was like man i'm screwed but you know he kept faith in me you know kept pouring into me and uh you know here i am today man but yeah i've been been raised good man you know try to try to be smart times obviously we play linebacker so in a few years will probably be different when i probably you know no no no a few years, it'll probably be different. No, no, no. A few years. 10, 15 years. This is what your future looks like. You're wearing a special helmet. That is what your future looks like right there next to us in front of a fake bookshelf.
Starting point is 02:13:13 Oklahoma fans obviously know that you're all in on Oklahoma. You've been there for a while, a lot of transition. Now, Stutz, I'm going to let you know. After talking to you, I love you. Absolutely love you. After watching to you, I love you. Okay? Absolutely love you. After watching you play football, love you. After the cigar thing and the press conference moment with Coach Venables,
Starting point is 02:13:33 love everything about you. Just want to let you know. Love everything about you. This tattoo you got on your thigh, though, real? I mean, I kind of kept up. I can actually, you know, it might be real. It might be fake. I think you guys can see it you know, it might be real. It might be fake. I think you guys can see it right there.
Starting point is 02:13:48 It looks pretty real. It's pretty real. It could be a temporary tattoo, man. I'll kind of leave it up. Maybe in 20 or 25 years, we can go back to this discussion. But, you know, Texas fans, it is whatever they want to believe. I'm kind of getting backlash. They say whatever I like.
Starting point is 02:14:02 I'm taking a shit or something. I'm going to see it. But, I mean, I'm staring at my phone anyway, so I don't really care. Stutz, I love that you're a legend already, pal. I don't think you had a link to your shirt. So we made a little scan thing for people to be able to purchase this for you. Let's go ahead and support Stutz. Let's go ahead and let Stutz have a good time while he's in college with his name image likeness. This is the exact purpose of this type of thing. Dude balls out, has a massive moment. We can give our congratulations through a purchase
Starting point is 02:14:34 of a shirt. We're proud of you, buddy. Keep crushing it and congrats to your Oklahoma Sooners for having a great start this year. I appreciate you guys for having me, man. This is an honor, man. You guys play West Virginia this year or no? Yeah, we do. In West Virginia or in Oklahoma? No, we played them last year at West Virginia. They freaking got us, man. I can't believe that.
Starting point is 02:14:53 Oh! Oh, did we? It was the first time in a long time. Morgantown's a tough place. Dude, it was freezing cold, rainy. It was brutal, but yeah yeah yeah yeah welcome to big 12 football okay sorry about it anyways uh good luck the rest of the way you're the best ladies and gentlemen danny stutz
Starting point is 02:15:13 stutz is a legend yeah he's awesome well i was business but had dropped out of communications i would love to know the deceit yep we we've all kind of know exactly what happened there. How about them doing the 49 med ball things? I love it. I love that type of like reminder every single day. That's a big time college thing,
Starting point is 02:15:32 but also obviously a motivator. Yeah, motivation, especially in a rivalry game like that. He talked about seeing the empty trophy case and I think he said keepers of the house, what did they say there?
Starting point is 02:15:41 So I love it though. Yeah, Venable seems to have the boys flying. His defense, whenever he was at Clemson, like super sophisticated, right? Like that's what they were like. So I love it though. Yeah, Venable seems to have the boys flying. His defense, whenever he was at Clemson, like super sophisticated, right? Like that's what they were like, hey, this guy runs a super sophisticated offense. Gotta have a lot of smart people
Starting point is 02:15:52 in there. He drops into Oklahoma and it's not good. Defense was actually bad. Offense was bad. Dylan Gabriel gets hurt. Nothing really takes place and they're like, what the hell's going on? Defense side of the ball now feels like it's his, you know, got some transfer, got his, you know, feels like it's his defense.
Starting point is 02:16:09 And I'm happy for Oklahoma, even though they're leaving the Big 12 right after this year. Yeah. Going right into the SEC. I love it. Good move. I'd run from West Virginia too. That's what you said good move for?
Starting point is 02:16:20 No. It had nothing to do with West Virginia. Absolutely nothing to do with West Virginia. What does it have to do with? Going to the SEC. Are you kidding me? Yeah. And I've noticed the SEC doesn't with West Virginia. Absolutely nothing to do with West Virginia. What does it have to do with? Going to the SEC. Are you kidding me? Yeah, and I've noticed the SEC doesn't want West Virginia in it either. Nope.
Starting point is 02:16:30 That makes sense, Greg Sankey. I wouldn't want them either. Our rifle team would go right in the SEC and out-shoot all of them. Tear them up. Our men's soccer team, dominate. Women's soccer team, beat them all. I think our women's soccer team is like number two in the country or something like that. Men's like number seven in the country. Rifles never
Starting point is 02:16:47 lost. I don't think they've ever lost. Ever. They had them take on Navy SEALs. Jack Carr, right? Let's call him on. Jack Carr was a member of the West Virginia Mountaineer Rifle Team. That is why that thing. Now, if we're talking football, I don't know
Starting point is 02:17:03 if the West Virginia boys will be able to handle the SEC week in, week out, but who can? Maybe. Bingo. Who can? Nobody. Not even the SEC. Oklahoma can.
Starting point is 02:17:10 I think they're built for it. Texas is also built for it. For sure. Like, that is the – and it's – I think people say I sound like I don't know anything about anything whenever I use this as an actual reason why somebody's going to win. But in football, like, size matters. Like, it Like it is like in a fight game, in physical combat, like size matters. And if size can move, like, okay, those are two boxes that get checked that another team doesn't
Starting point is 02:17:37 have. So like some of these teams, whenever you're trying to judge college football, it's pretty easy to see who's probably going to win this game when you've got 6'4", 320, 6'3", 315, 6'6", 295, taking on smaller size at offensive line. It's like across the board, this team's bigger, stronger, faster, probably going to win this game. Now, there might be a fluke that could take place, and it doesn't come together, but there's no chance a team isn't going to be big enough
Starting point is 02:18:05 to go to the college football playoff. Got to be big. And Texas was big when we saw them. They were SEC big when we saw them. And then watching Oklahoma, it's like Oklahoma's fucking big too. And it's because they're going to the SEC, I assume they're able to start recruiting SEC-style players. Size matters, and then quarterbacks matter.
Starting point is 02:18:24 Texas got Arch, and then Oklahoma got a kid named Jackson Arnold, who's the number one quarterback coming out of Texas this year. So they're set there, too. We saw Arch Manning's walker. Go ahead. No, so there are some outliers. I feel like when you guys were – Our West Virginia team?
Starting point is 02:18:38 West Virginia, yeah. I don't think you guys were the biggest team, but that stretch zone with quarterbacks, Pat White, Slayton, and what y'all had on both sides of the ball actually. That's some dynamic scheme. That was your big thing last year, though, when you went to TCU.
Starting point is 02:18:53 They were huge. It's like, oh, these are adults. This team that I'm standing on a stage and I'm eye-to-eye with all of them as they're jogging by. Like, oh, there's the offense. All right, I'm eye-to-eye with them. There's the tight ends. I'm eye-to-eye with them. There's the linebackers. I'm eye-to-eye with them. Oh, there's the tight ends. I'm eye-to-eye with them. There's the linebackers. I'm eye-to-eye with them.
Starting point is 02:19:07 They're D-line. They're taller than me. I'm standing on a six-inch lifting thing. I'm like, these fuckers are huge. I had no idea they were this big. I like them all of a sudden. I like the big team. Our West Virginia team, they don't make them like that anymore.
Starting point is 02:19:21 And I say our because I happen to be there, but I was riding the coattails of a lot of people. We had dogs all over the place. I don't think any of those guys would be allowed to play D1 football at this point. Both of these guys. You know what I mean? Myself included. With the way we were living and the thing
Starting point is 02:19:39 that we would have got sent to NAIA, I think, with the way our team was built. So there's a little different. If you can find a team that has what our West Virginia team had, just a chemistry, though. Like, we really – our team was so tight. Brotherhood. And I have never seen a group of people that were more different
Starting point is 02:19:57 coming together than that one right there. So if you can find that, I think that's good as well. But if we could have a little bit more size, I think we all would have been okay with that if that would have taken place. Well, it really was, though. I mean, it's one of those things where when you're on the sideline like that, it's so much different, and you have to kind of double-check a couple times, look at the program, like, no, there's no way.
Starting point is 02:20:16 Yep, that dude is that fucking big. Okay, it's not just like a trick that my eyes are playing on me. And the technique and stuff might be different, but the O-line versus the D-line, that looks very similar to what you see in an NFL game. It's like, oh, the size here is crazy. Speed as well. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:20:32 I do need to make a correction. The West Virginia women's soccer team is currently ranked 120th in the country. That's terrible. That's terrible. There was a two in there. Could have been worse. Did you say they hadn't lost in five years? I don't know. No, it's a rival team.. Could have been worse. Did you say they hadn't lost in five years? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:20:46 Rifle team. Rifle team. From two to 120. They started out. They were ranked too early, though. They started off the season. Yeah, they had a couple tough weeks, I think. Come on, ladies.
Starting point is 02:20:59 Let's go, dude. Right on the cusp. W's currently. How are the Palm E-Gamers doing? They doing all right? Currently four in rifle. Who? W. W's currently. How are the Palm E-gamers doing? They doing all right? Currently four in rifle. Who? W. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:21:10 What, did we miss one bullseye? What did we? Sorry. We missed one. A guy sneezed while he was shooting. Sorry. Sue us. Yikes. Heart rate raised just half a beat and we weren't perfect. Four? Yeah. That's not good. Are we in the middle of season right now? Rifle season? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:21:25 I'm just looking at the standings. We didn't finish four so yes, we're certainly in the middle. Don't you worry. Whenever a push comes to shove and the pressure's on, that's what the West Virginia Rifle Team is, pal. What a joke, you saying what you just said. Not even on the podium.
Starting point is 02:21:42 Yikes. Yeah, we just beat the fuck out of Akron. That's what I thought. Akron isn't even a top-tier rifle team school? Well, that's how we started our season, so what do you want from us? Akron said, we want to sign up to take on the best, and they said, is that right? And didn't even miss. Didn't even miss one bullseye.
Starting point is 02:22:00 Not even outside the inner circle of the outside of the outer circle. We're talking in the inner circle. We're talking red, dart game. So this is like college football playoff committee. Unfortunately, they were not dominant enough against Akron to be number one. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck's going on with this ranking system. I'm not happy about it. We get to the bottom of it. I mean, guys haven't won a national
Starting point is 02:22:17 championship in a long time. What? How long? 2017. No way! What the hell's going on there? 2013, West Virginia. 2014, West 2017. No, Wayne. Oh, no. Are you kidding? What the hell is going on there? 2013, West Virginia. 2014, West Virginia. 2015, West Virginia. We're going the other way, Z.
Starting point is 02:22:31 Thank you, buddy. 2016, West Virginia. 2017, West Virginia. What happened? Oh, he got a new horse. Kentucky. John Hammond must have retired. Kentucky.
Starting point is 02:22:41 Harry Mullins had those boys. Kentucky and TCU have found their shot. Dude, Alaska Fairbanks. Alaska Fairbanks is going to win for the next 30 years. Well, everybodyU have found their shot. Dude, Alaska Fairbanks is going to win for the next 30 years. Well, everybody traveling to play against them. What do we do? We got to fly to Russia? They've got a 20-hour flight? You think they're able to just pop out and start sniping
Starting point is 02:22:56 bullseyes? Nope. Why is Ohio State hosted all the time? Fuck. It's not in Alaska. It's in Ohio State. Yeah, why are they hosted? West Virginia's real close. Bullets, duh. So Ohio State probably said, you guys want to shoot a bunch of rifles? Come on. Come on in.
Starting point is 02:23:11 No problem at all. Anyways, West Virginia's going to win again this year. We just showed that with what we did to Akron. We started the season hot. We're going to continue to be hot. And we're only getting better. Kentucky's back down in order, second or third, if I had to guess. Well, TCU.
Starting point is 02:23:26 I'm not sure. Those TCU Horned Frog boys, it looks like they are also some sharpshooters. Well, let's get to what really matters here, which is rightful teams weren't in a natty. Women's soccer team needs picking. Yep, a little bit. They are 5-7-3. Oh.
Starting point is 02:23:37 Tough schedule this year. We got five wins, though. 120th, you would think you wouldn't even win five. I assume that's probably D2 schools that we played against. Well, yeah, but those seven losses were against seven top ten teams. I have been informed that the University of Pittsburgh women's soccer team is good, though. Oh. That's good news.
Starting point is 02:23:52 Okay. Nice. WVU and Pitt, you wouldn't think that they'd be good soccer schools, but they have been for a long time. Well, that's where Western Pennsylvania has got good soccer players. That's where I grew up. I was lucky to do that. A lot of great players. Not as fast as some of the people, but gritty.
Starting point is 02:24:07 We'll fight you. Yeah. And then we'll get a red card. And then we'll flop like we're offensive linemen. Boo. What's that all about? Ridiculous. I'm not happy about it.
Starting point is 02:24:15 Do we even want to do it in the trenches? We should ban it in the trenches. We got some good trenches. AJ, that's good silver lining. You know, like, they did get a first down and all that, and the offensive linemen helped. But, like, the overall offensive lineman helped, but the overall image is like, what are we doing?
Starting point is 02:24:28 You know what I mean? Embarrassing. Can you imagine if Swifties are watching this and this is the first time they're seeing a game like this? Then what? Yeah, then what, AJ? Hope you're happy. I'm not saying I'm happy by this, but I'm saying he did get his team 15 yards. Hunter's been flopping a long time.
Starting point is 02:24:43 Some of us chose not to. Some people are not happy that we chose not to because, once again, it is a first down if you just fall on your face right here. Some kickers flop. Basketball players flop. Wide receivers flop. We can't have offensive linemen for the good of the sport.
Starting point is 02:24:59 We just can't have it, AQ. I couldn't agree more. I mean, that's a bad Green Bay. Send an email. At Green Bay. You see what the fucking offense was doing? I did. I mean it, AQ. I couldn't agree more. I mean, that's a bad Green Bay. Send an email. Green Bay. You see what the fucking offense was doing? I did. I mean, we needed that.
Starting point is 02:25:08 I mean, Green Bay is the epitome of toughness, too. Like, that's old school. Old school. The original. I don't know if they've been the epitome of toughness for a while. But when you think football, you think Green Bay. Yeah. Frozen country.
Starting point is 02:25:20 Yeah. They're both not anymore. Unfortunately, Vince Lombardi ain't walking through them fucking doors, AQO. Yeah, it's been a long time since I've seen him. It's about the floor. Yeah, and he cares more about, you know, making sure his eyebrows and his chin straps lined up than he does about our offensive line playing tough. So maybe that's a problem.
Starting point is 02:25:37 It's a good chin strap. It's true. Great eyebrows. Great lineup. Looks great. I'm happy that everything we did led to that moment. Me too. You know, I'm pumped that we got there.
Starting point is 02:25:48 Shout out to us getting tied to it. Say the truth. Good boy, Ty. That's how Ty feels about Coach LeFleur. I do believe Coach LeFleur, though, has the rest of the season to make up, right? He can turn the – Oh, yeah. The rest of this season, probably the rest of next season as well.
Starting point is 02:26:01 I mean, this guy's fucking clean. Yeah. Clean. Beard. If we could zoom this guy's fucking clean. Yeah. Clean. Beard. If we could zoom in on the beard thing. Yeah, wow. Look at that line. If my players are wearing chin straps, oh my.
Starting point is 02:26:11 Eyebrows look good. Beard looks good. Decision making on fleek, obviously. Yeah. Whenever he's calling games. I need my eyebrows lined like that. Your eyebrows are allowed to be eyebrows, dude. No, I think it looks pretty good
Starting point is 02:26:26 You should do a chin strap You do that red light thing To trim up his eyebrows I don't do that What's that? The trim up of the eyebrows But I need to after seeing this This is incredible looking
Starting point is 02:26:36 Yeah, he looks really good AQ's five fight camps away from being Matt LaFleur What happened with Bader's fight? Guy pulled out on Monday That's bad luck Why don't you fight off? Monday, Wednesday Yeah, with Bader's fight? Guy pulled out on Monday. That's bad luck. Why don't you fight on Monday? Yeah, why don't you fight? Five days before, pulled out. The fight was on Saturday? Yeah. This upcoming Saturday? Last Saturday. Already happened.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Oh, so we already passed the time Bader was supposed to fight? Yeah. Bader is your fight camp that you've been in? Well, that's what I've been training with, yeah. Not part of the fight camp. Is this like levels of this shit? Yeah, there's definite levels Once I saw them get in the cage, I was like
Starting point is 02:27:08 Do you have stitches in your nose? Relax, dude Is it a yes or no? That's a no It does look like it was quite a little injury though As we zoom in really tight on that So Bader now trained for how many months? Seven week training camp.
Starting point is 02:27:26 I mean, just got after it. He was ready. He was ready to roll. And then five days before, he just pulled the plug. Why? What happened? The guy got hurt?
Starting point is 02:27:33 The guy said he was sick, said he couldn't recover in time by the fight. Sounds like a bunch of bullshit. Oh, well, I'm not going to say it. That guy could be my ass, so I'm not going to say it. But you've been training with him,
Starting point is 02:27:40 so you're in the fight camp. You're allowed to say that. That's right. So what do they do? Will Bader fight again or no? Yeah, he's waiting on whatever the next one is. Why don't you do it? Tell him. This is what you've been training with him, so you're in the fight camp. You're allowed to say that. That's right. So what do they do? Bait or fight again or no? Yeah, he's waiting on whatever the next one is. Why don't you do it? Tell him.
Starting point is 02:27:48 This is what you've been training for. Step in. Get that check. You don't want to be a champ? No, I think I'm good. I think I'm good. You want to do in the trenches? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Let's go. We've got a good one this week. I don't know. You've got offensive linemen flopping all over the place. I'll tell you who's not in the show this week. It's Green Bay. Green Bay's not in the show. week. It's Green Bay. Green Bay's not in the show. Or New England.
Starting point is 02:28:06 Or New England. Or the New York Giants who had a rough week. Lael Collins, though, worked out for them. That's right. They need some reinforcement. Steelers in it? Well, let's talk about Lael Collins before we get to who's in it. Are the Colts in it?
Starting point is 02:28:19 Colts are in it. Whoa. Everybody can fuck off. That was good. That was really good. Lael Collins worked out for the Jets and the Giants. Lael Collins got hurt in January, right? Yes. So he'd still be recovering from
Starting point is 02:28:29 that particular thing. He's getting signed to any team that needs help anywhere? Yeah, I mean, he's a great player, and when you put him at guard, he's really good. When you put him at tackle, that's obviously his natural position, but he can help any team right now, and the Jets and the Giants need help. The Jets just lost Vera Tucker
Starting point is 02:28:45 the second year in a row. AVT with the Achilles. He'll be out there with J.K. Dobbins and Aaron Rodgers, we assume. If they start healing Achilles, I thought about this yesterday too, because the J.K. Dobbins stuff got picked up, and then Aaron alluded to AVT also had an Achilles
Starting point is 02:29:02 and maybe he was going to be there. If they can heal the Achilles faster than anybody else, whatever they got cooking in that little room there is going to become, right? That's where everybody's going to head for the Achilles, AJ. That type of shit happens overnight, too. I'm not saying that this guy just got learned about, but if success happens with Aaron, people are already seeing it, every team will be like,
Starting point is 02:29:24 this is where we are going to try to go to cheat the game of this Achilles thing. Yeah, that's how doctors get, like, they make their name. I know Eletroge is already a huge guy. The guy that fixed Sterling Sharp's nasty, like, turf toe situation, Dr. Anderson, he's like the foot guy you go to now. He was in North Carolina. I think he's back in Wisconsin now. But, yeah, like get known as the dude to go to if you have certain injuries on certain things and it seems like elitrage right now is he's the achilles guy dr andrews
Starting point is 02:29:53 is orthopedic yeah guy he's down there in birmingham alabama i do believe everybody heads down there for surgery it's just kind of what you know like i had to have uh a surgery on my dislocated kneecap or whatever and they were like like, you're going to go to Dr. Andrews to do this. And it was a two-week wait or something like that because he had surgeries lined up. I was like, I'm going to get my shit done right here. That's the road. Get my shit done right here, and hopefully it works out. But everybody's trying to get in there.
Starting point is 02:30:18 For the foot thing, you said that guy. And then Achilles, it's like, all right, we're going to Eletron. Hip guy, I think, in Colorado. He's like the hip. Bill Myers in Philadelphia does all the core surgeries. All the – Lane Johnson, like the core surgery. The sports attorney is – now they're called core muscle surgery.
Starting point is 02:30:36 He does them all. Okay. All of them. So this is literally what just ends up happening. If they can figure out this Achilles, though, to become a much quicker thing than it has been, good on them and good for all the sport. So, Lyle Collins, though, we think good for either of these teams.
Starting point is 02:30:48 I mean, they have to. They have to get veteran help. And when your team's not playing well on the offensive line and you've given your chances to the rookies and you've let the personnel guys who they said, oh, this guy's going to be great and okay, he's not up to speed yet, go get a guy like Lyle Collins. I have sources from inside Achilles. Facility?
Starting point is 02:31:11 Yeah. Achilles Recovery Factory right here, bro. Going to dominate like the WVU rifle team for sure. That's from sources inside the Achilles factory that's happening out there. Everybody's going to be here, bro. Everybody's going to be here is what I was just told. With the bro in there as well. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:31 All right. So they're changing the game over there. Hey, congrats, Doc. Thanks for having us on in the background. Keep going, Doc. And I appreciate J.K. Dobbins in here talking shit about Achilles. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:40 That was sweet. Good vibes over there. It is. You need that. Need it. Absolutely need it. And I think it results as well. And it's just like, here was sweet. Good vibes over here. It is. You need that. Need it. Absolutely need it. And I think it results as well. And it's just like, here we go.
Starting point is 02:31:48 Hey Q, you want to do a giveaway maybe for the people? Yeah, let's do it. What do you want to do? All right, you tell me. You should dunk. How light you are. Want to throw some footballs? All right.
Starting point is 02:31:57 You want to throw some footballs? Bad angle into the yellow thing? No. Come on, dude. Don't be a wuss. He's trying to say bad angle. I like it. Tough, tough throw. That's a tough angle. Tough throw. Tough throw. All right, dude. Don't be a wuss. He's trying to say bad angle. I like it. It's a tough angle. Tough throw.
Starting point is 02:32:09 Alright, so you want to go for the hoop? You want to go that way? Yeah, we'll go hoop. Want to go that way? He's asking you, pal. This is community's decision. We'll go that way. Okay. Now on this one, you know you missed right. The ball probably bounced back. No! Go this way then. No, I'm going this way. I want people to win.
Starting point is 02:32:25 Yeah. Me too. Me. I would like you to make a shot for these people. Me too. After getting punched in your nose. Somebody blew these up. These are a little more.
Starting point is 02:32:32 This is to give money away? We had to fix a lot of the balls. Yeah. A little more stuff. Why don't you try to put it in the cornhole hole? What? Oh, don't waste the ball. I was about to say that.
Starting point is 02:32:43 All right. All right. Here we go. How many people do you want to win? Ten? You like ten? Yeah, perfect. Sure.
Starting point is 02:32:50 You could have said 20 there. How many do I get? Ten. Five balls. Five balls. Five balls. All right. Ten.
Starting point is 02:32:55 Hold on. Ten? Ten? That's it? Ten. Ten. Okay. Ten people.
Starting point is 02:33:01 $500. If AQ Shipley can drain this for the brain football into that basketball hoop right over there. Now he knows that if he misses right a little bit off the backboard with the way a ball turns over, that'll actually bank down to the left into the hoop. So you want to miss to the right a little bit
Starting point is 02:33:18 and play the bank down to the left. 10 people, $500. Super Bowl champion. Can you be a champion for 10 people, $500. Super Bowl champion. Can you be a champion for ten people today? Oh. Ooh, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if AQ Shipley can bury
Starting point is 02:33:33 this particular football, ten people will win. Five! Oh, that's it, though. Come on, AQ. Ladies and gentlemen, if AQ Shipley can bury this football! I mean, I'm hitting. Yeah, velocity. I'm hitting the square. Come on, Chris. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Shipley can bury this football. I mean, I'm hitting. Yeah, velocity.
Starting point is 02:33:47 I'm hitting the square. Okay, congrats. Velocity is too high. I thought that was the one. Take the V down. A super sweet look today. You got the maroon pants on. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:57 You got the community hoodie. You look slender. Oh, no strings on the shoes? Yeah, no strings. Really? Those are new. There's a couple strings. Those are neat. There's a couple strings. Those are moving.
Starting point is 02:34:06 A little crisscross. You're a fashion guy. You look good. Thanks. With how good you look, it would only be right for you to win 10 people. $500. All you got to do is bury that ball into that hoop right over there. Swish.
Starting point is 02:34:18 And 10 people were $500 richer. Swish. Oh, huge. You look great. Toughest ball. Toughest ball. Toughest ball. It's the biggest ball. So it's the smallest too.
Starting point is 02:34:30 It's definitely a kicker's ball too because I can feel it. Yeah, I think I kicked that one to myself actually. It's one of these guys, right? I believe that is the actual ball that I kicked to myself. So let's make sure we take care of it. Don't hit the bricks. What we need you to do is hit that hoop. Not just the rim.
Starting point is 02:34:44 We need you to hit the net. And you need you to do is hit that hoop. Not just the rim. We need you to hit the net. You need to go through. If you do that, 10 people win $500. 10 people right now are watching along saying, you know what? I could use $500. Especially going into Halloween, going into the holiday season with where football is. $500 would
Starting point is 02:35:00 change my day, change my life, change my perspective. All you've got to do is just make one shot for 10 people to have a better life. AQ with your sweet shoes and your super fashionable pants and your community hoodie. Why don't you do it for a community of 10 people?
Starting point is 02:35:15 Come on, boy. AQ Shipley. Hits the bricks. You said don't hit the bricks. Don't hit the bricks. What was that? I feel like he did it on purpose No more balls No, we do have one more He is a high school hall of famer for basketball, correct? I mean, just don't hit the fucking bricks
Starting point is 02:35:35 Kicked the ball to myself That ball was in a game from my foot to my hands So stupid I don't know how that happened You hit the bricks I don't know how that happened. You hit the brakes. I don't know how that happened. That ball's heavier than all the other balls. I don't know how you fucking go up, over,
Starting point is 02:35:51 through things. Kind of rolled off the pinky, you know? Yeah, I'd say. I think quarterbacks go up there. Alright, last one here. Dorsal fin football. I'll calibrate for you. This is Russell Wilson's football. Come on. Calibrate. Calibrate for you. What?
Starting point is 02:36:06 This is Russell Wilson's football. Yeah, you threw a great ball. Well, make sure it's calibrated because you just caught it. Chuck threw this thing up. I saw it last week. It went way up there. It's not an easy ball to throw. Make sure it's calibrated.
Starting point is 02:36:18 But if you're Russell Wilson, you know exactly where it's going. You got to twist the. It'll show you. There's a red hand on it. Can I see it? Can I please see it? Make sure it's calibrated. Calibrate that. Boom. Calibrate that. Boom.
Starting point is 02:36:26 Calibrate. Boom. It's loaded, bro. You're welcome. Guaranteed. You're welcome. Careful. You make that ball into that hoop over there, we'll give 40 people $500.
Starting point is 02:36:38 40 people, $500. All you got to do is get the dorsal fin football into that hoop right over there. Perfect. Good luck, AQ. 40 people's future. Oh. $500. All you got to do is get the dorsal fin football into that hoop right over there. Good luck, AQ. 40 peoples. Future. Oh.
Starting point is 02:36:50 Wow. Not terrible. That was pretty good. Not terrible. All right. We appreciate you, AQ. All right. Bam. Stink this year.
Starting point is 02:36:59 Well, you're a whole new person. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Got to get used to the weight loss. You dress like. Yeah, it ain't just you. I stunk, exactly. Gotta get used to the weight loss. You dress like yeah, just you Let's get to a break, okay
Starting point is 02:37:25 Like like what I was waiting for it too. Like what? Like what? I didn't say anything. Ty, we could not wait. I was waiting for it. Who was going to be the person that was going to be sitting at the end of that sentence that was going to be taking some shrapnel because of how AQ is dressed today? I didn't say that. If we can watch that back, Ty's face goes. It shows the worst.
Starting point is 02:37:47 It'll continue to get worse somehow, too. Just know that. And we appreciate you for rocking with us. We'll be back tomorrow with a big-time Thursday. Thursday night football. Getting off week five or week six of the NFL season. How Jacksonville State ended up last night? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:38:01 It was 10-10 at halftime. It wasn't the end. It didn't get better after that. Liberty's undefeated, though. They're 6-10 at halftime. It wasn't the end. It didn't get better after that. At least at half. Liberty is undefeated, though. They're 6-0. Liberty, yeah. They can run the football.
Starting point is 02:38:10 I'll tell you what. What was the score? 31-13. Oh, yikes. Bad second half. They're normally second half teams. That was going to be a tough day for those Jacksonville State Gamecocks today. Yeah, long Wednesday.
Starting point is 02:38:22 Lost all their hard edge. Just got cooked in the second half. Can't have it. Hopefully that's not the case going forward. AJ, final thoughts on this particular Wednesday program? Man, I thought it was a good program, but I am confused about AQ's community sweatshirt. Is there some kind of joke or something I don't know about?
Starting point is 02:38:36 Yeah, I think he's just not community, right? That's what it is? The joke is him wearing it. The shirt says it. That's it. It's just a brand. That's all it is. That's it. What's the brand? Got it. Is the brand clean? all it is. That's it. What's the brand? Got it. Is the brand clean? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:38:46 Tell me. What's the brand? Look at Ty's face. If we could zoom out. The brand is Les Du. Les Du. Can we zoom in on Ty's face right there? Les Du.
Starting point is 02:38:57 Sensei Les Du. Hold on. Hold on. And. It was Ty's face that made me laugh. Joel, who? What was that? What is he?
Starting point is 02:39:10 I was excited to hear that. Me too. I was too. What a day here on this Wednesday. Hell yeah. D-Buck, great work this week. Appreciate it, brother. You're off to where?
Starting point is 02:39:17 Home and then you're Philadelphia? Yep. Home then Philly. NFL matchups? How's that show going? Going great. Going great. Having a good time.
Starting point is 02:39:24 Great time. London games kind of hurt NFL matchups. That's that show going? Going great. Going great. Having a good time. Great time. London games kind of hurt NFL matchups because that's not how I watch it. So now it's harder to watch. How many do we have international game going? We have Tennessee, Baltimore this weekend in London. And then what? And then the next one will be Finns Chiefs in Germany.
Starting point is 02:39:39 I think that's week 10. And then week 11 is Pats Colts in Germany. Okay, so it won't be every week going forward. No. After this week, we have like four weeks, I think, with that one. Yeah, I'm okay with it. You know, I enjoy the game. It's a nice change of pace. But I'm okay watching, you know.
Starting point is 02:39:52 Yeah, sick and tired of like the, you know, seven games in the early window and then three games in the late window. So if we could kind of remedy that. They've perfected that. This one was actually nice. I think it was six and four. It was perfect. Yes, perfect.
Starting point is 02:40:04 We have two weeks. So the next one after this weekend is week nine. Yeah. All right, so we've got some time. Let's enjoy this morning football. Hell yeah. Okay? And let's go into a perfect NFL Sunday after we bet everything right.
Starting point is 02:40:17 Bingo. And we're going to start that tomorrow night. Yeah. We're going to hit all of our bets. Yeah. AJ, I don't know if you've seen, I've taken a commanding lead in our picking. Oh, have you? Yeah. I know you've won at least the last couple weeks. Yeah, I don't know if you've seen, I've taken a commanding lead in our picking. Oh, have you? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:27 I know you've won at least the last couple weeks. Yeah, 3-1-1. You're 1-3-1, obviously. Oh, boy. I'll tell you what, it's felt really good to go into that Monday and just know I'm good. I won. Yeah, I'm just going to cheat and just take my range. Well, you know, especially when we're one game off
Starting point is 02:40:40 and you know that you're just going to pick whatever game I do. Bingo. That's been a fun part of this whole thing. That's been a real – I'm about to get hot. I'm about to get pretty hot on here, though. I can feel it. Yeah, it comes in bunches.
Starting point is 02:40:50 That's what they say. You know, streaky shooters, that's what we all are. I think you're going to get hot as well. I think this week, actually, we're going to agree on every one of them, and it's just going to be a perfect slate for both of us. That's what I think it's going to be. That'll be a lot of fun. Like, for instance, Ravens-Titans
Starting point is 02:41:05 in the morning. Who do you like, AJ, early? I don't know. I was going to ask you who you like. AJ! You know what? I've taken the Titans, I think, the last three weeks. I'm going Ravens. Okay. Alright. So on that one, I'd be taking the Titans there. So we would have a disagreement here
Starting point is 02:41:22 early, but we have until Friday still. That's right. We have until Friday still. I will say the most games that you guys have agreed on was also your worst weeks for both of you. I believe that was the bad one. Which is completely different than last year. Last year, whenever we agreed on games, we were batting at like a 75% clip. Yes.
Starting point is 02:41:38 This year, we agreed on a bunch of games and we're at like 22%. Maybe even lower than that. So when everybody's all on board, we need to flip the script a little bit. Yep. Like the Raiders. Yeah, Raiders and Commanders. All right.
Starting point is 02:41:51 Let's get to a break. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Big shout out to Danny Stutzman, J.J. White, Bobby Carpenter, A.J. Hawk, A.Q.
Starting point is 02:42:00 Shipley, D-Butt, all the boys in the back. We are so incredibly grateful for you. Goodbye.

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