The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 992 - Trenches Wednesday With The General Bobby Carpenter's Top 5, JJ Watt, Oklahoma Linebacker Danny Stutsman, AQ Shipley and Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk
Episode Date: October 11, 2023On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about opening night in the NHL, everything happening around the NFL including whether or not Bill Belichick is going to be a...ble to replicate the success he had with Tom Brady, Anthony Richardson and De'von Achane officially going on IR, and much more as we prepare for week 6 of the NFL season. Joining the progrum for his weekly top 5 in college football is Ohio State legend, 18th pick of the 2006 NFL Draft, the man who saved college football, The General, Bobby Carpenter (34:25-54:31). Next, 3X NFL DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, future Hall of Famer, Texans Ring of Honor member, 7x All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, JJ Watt joins the progrum to chat about his brother's continued dominance, how impressive the 49ers defense is, Jalen Carter being absolutely dominant, his thoughts on the London games and teams having competitive advantage by staying over there, and much more (1:03:22-1:57:06). Later, Middle Linebacker for the Oklahoma Sooners, Danny Stutsman joins the show after a massive win in the Red River Rivalry to chat about the importance of that game, not having a letdown after a massive win, his relationship with The Boz, the shirt he's selling to help his NIL situation, what Coach Venables is like, the physicality of the OU team, what Dillion Gabriel is like as a teammate, and much more (1:58:23-2:15:15). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Trenches Wednesday,
October 11th, 2023, this program starts now. Football! It's happening tomorrow,
but football conversations will happen all day today on this particular program.
We can't thank you enough for joining us. We hope you are fantastic. We got two breaking news
out of the NFL
happening today. Anthony Richardson,
quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts, officially going
on to the IR.
He'll be out at least four weeks, but they're giving a
window from four to eight weeks
for his return. Not great
news, obviously. We hope you get
healthy over the next four weeks.
He has a sprained AC
joint in his shoulder.
Whenever he went down live and in person while watching on TV,
we thought maybe he had a broken collarbone,
maybe a torn something ligament in there.
Instead, it's a sprain four to eight weeks.
Where will the Colts be with Gardner Minshew being the starting quarterback
for them five weeks from now, six weeks from now, seven weeks from now?
We shall see.
from now, six weeks from now,
seven weeks from now, we shall see. And also, this
phenom for the Miami
Dolphins running back
Devon A. Chan
has gone to the IR. He'll be out
for the next four weeks. Jeff Wilson, though,
back off of IR with
Mostert, with McDaniel's big brain. We
assume the Dolphins will still be a wagon,
but they're losing out on a rookie running
back who is on pace to break pretty much every
rookie running back record in the history
of the NFL. He will sit
down now for the next four weeks. There's also
a lot going on, and I got all the
boys here. The toxic table is here.
At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Conman,
what's the shirt there? It's from an Italian
restaurant in Chicago. Not exactly
sure how to describe the name because I don't
speak fluent Italian,
but it is kind of a dressed-up mouse, and on the back, it's the back of the mouse.
It's an Italian waiter mouse, yeah.
You see it?
You see the back of it?
I couldn't see it.
I don't think we can still see it.
You see it now?
No, we couldn't see it.
Oh, yeah, we saw it.
Oh, that's like very clever.
It's like front of shirt, front of mouse.
Back of shirt, back of mouse.
So it's like, grazie, prego, parmesan, mozzarella, meatballs.
I appreciate you wearing that shirt.
This is the weirdest shirt you've ever worn on this particular show.
This one's up there.
Also, the only white shirt I've ever worn on this shirt.
Smart, it means you're getting thinner. Yeah. It it's good start to believe in his body a little bit you know i wear dark because
uh white would potentially make oh yeah all my potato sack look like a potato sack great shirt
today weird i think a lot of people would say weird shirt good not really in your wardrobe
normally no love that you brought a little italian flair entire your face is peeling yeah like
horrendously so i feel like such an asshole.
Should have put sunscreen on on
Saturday. We kind of talked about it.
I just said, I'll be fine. I have sunglasses. Why
would I need to put sunscreen on? Boy,
I should have put sunscreen on because
yeah, it's not fun when you just go like
this and you got about 10 pounds of snow
falling off your face. Yeah, the good news is
sun still has its fastball. It does.
And in Texas, we just ate it. Just completely. You chose with your face. Yeah, the good news is Sun still has its fastball. It does. And in Texas,
we just ate it.
Just completely.
You chose with your face
to do so.
Right.
No hat, no nothing.
Nope.
A lot of us on our neck
and our...
Oh, yeah.
Bruce Brown's nose
is currently charred
to a crisp right now.
Yeah.
So people in Texas,
I'm sure you already know this,
put sunscreen on.
Yeah.
Put sunscreen on.
Sun's still doing it out there,
which I think is a surprise
To all of us
One half of the hammer
Cowboys
Tone Diggs is here
Tone gave us a bunch
Of betting trends yesterday
Pretty much
It's going to make us smarter
Hopefully
Have we learned anything
Hockey wise
About what we need to bet on
After first night
I got it
Not the Penguins
What is this all about
We stink again Nick
The Chicago Blackhawks
Got a 14 year old
Leading their team
Yeah
Guy's smaller than everybody on the ice.
He gets an assist.
He's great on our show.
The Pens stink.
We lose 4-2.
We had a 2-0 lead.
We stink.
I don't want hockey season to be over, Nick.
I would like to cover hockey this year.
But if the Pens are going to lay this type of crap on the ice,
we're not going to be able to talk about it, Nick.
Pat, I don't want to overreact, but it's the same shit new season.
Blowing leads, not managing
the puck, not being able to score
on a backup level goaltender. It's frustrating.
Oh, backup level. We're not getting pucks deep with
a lead? Listen, we need pucks on
net, skates on ice,
hands on hands
in the stands. We need celebrations.
You need guys that aren't 40
years old. That's what you need.
You don't have props.
You got a bunch of old geezers out there.
The only old geezers you should be talking about
is the old geezers that were good for the Red Wings.
The Pantera's over.
You know it, Pat.
Wow.
You're a loser.
I will say, hockey had a hell of a start last night, though.
A lot of goals, a lot of action.
The Vegas Golden Knights celebrated their banner getting dropped.
Will the team please go to the slot machine.
I know the hockey people were not happy with all the semantics of what was going on
before that Vegas Golden Knights game.
But I like the fact that we pulled a sword out of some wet rock.
Watch the thing drip.
There's a bunch of water.
It was like when you go to the gas station, you put the windshield wiper thing in there.
They're pulling that sword out.
Stoner looked great.
The boys had a night.
They obviously go on to win.
That game's over about 1230 Eastern time.
Tampa Bay gets a big win over Nashville.
Chicago Blackhawks beat the Penguins.
There was one man on this stage that called the entire thing.
Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet,
hockey Nostradamus, Terry Schaefer.
Hey, you're 3-0 right now and you're picking hockey games?
Let's keep doing that.
I should probably stop right here.
No, no.
Keep riding out there.
And joining us every single Wednesday of the season
is a guy that used to play offensive line,
but now he looks like he's probably a kicker or a punter.
Stakes.
His brain is still massive.
He's host of In the Trenches.
Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley.
Hey, AQ.
Okay, AQ, you obviously played center guard.
I don't think you ever played tackle.
Maybe in high school one time they put you out there.
But in college and the NFL, your arm's too small to be a tackle.
But you're great in the interior of the offensive line.
You won a Super Bowl.
You coach offensive linemen.
You're in the O-line community, I think, through and through, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
What is this bullshit?
Tell me what this is in 2023.
Tell me what this is.
We got offensive linemen flopping on primetime Monday night football.
Max Crosby's obviously a dog, and he's going to be, you know,
doing everything he can to get under people's skins.
But when did it become okay for offensive linemen
to be flopping all over the place, AQ?
Listen, when you sent this to me the other night,
I was so disappointed. They say
in the locker rooms nowadays, the
old guys, right? The crusty
old nets. Yeah, the front
yard, yell at the guys. The guys that went
through it, the two-a-days, you know, back
when football was real and hard.
They don't make them like they used to. That's what they
say. They don't make them like they used to. Now, what they say. They don't make them like they used to.
Now, that guy got a first down for his team.
Great job by him.
Big.
Which I think everybody's going to be proud of.
Great job by him.
He got more first downs than some offenses have as a whole.
But this is something we don't normally see out of the offensive line community.
And this is going to be the new norm, it seems like.
So, congrats to your position.
Tough to watch.
Tough to watch.
Congrats.
Offense linemen are getting soft now.
Yeah, and skinnier.
The league.
Whoa.
Slowly, yeah.
A lot of rule changes.
Trent Williams, too?
League is getting softer.
Safer.
Soft's what?
Safer.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What's soft?
There it is.
It's almost like in the middle of that you forgot what the script was.
I mean, you know, it is what it is.
I appreciate it.
You know, for us, obviously, you want to be done playing.
You got to walk around and play with your kids and have a long life after.
But, you know, when you're in there, you have that helmet on.
It's gladiator mentality.
Yeah, for sure.
I do appreciate, though, that Max Crosby probably got a little bit befuddled for that.
He took over that game.
He's a guy that is a game wrecker.
There's another guy that just came into the league out of Georgia,
playing for the Philadelphia Eagles and obviously during
his draft process, a lot happened.
A lot happened during
the draft process, both
physically and mentally tasking on him and I
assume a lot of different situations,
but he got drafted to the right place.
There are stats now coming out that Jalen
Carter, okay,
of the Philadelphia Eagles, has 25
pressures already, nine more than any other rookie
defensive tackle in their first five games during the next-gen stats era. Just give him the defensive
rookie of the year now. Now, I do believe we're all on the same page, but I don't think those
particular stats were something we fully understood. 25 is nine more than any other rookie
defensive lineman's ever had in the history of the NFL? Why has he had so much success so quickly?
And how do you stop that particular guy?
And what type of career can – is he at his best already
or is he going to only get better somehow?
Listen, we were talking before the show.
During the draft process, I compared him to Chris Jones.
He's as good as Chris Jones right now.
Right now.
At least what he's doing right now.
Now, will he hit the rookie wall?
Who knows.
But what he's doing and their ability and their scheme with the other guys they have on their defensive line,
their ability to get him in one-on-one situations, especially against the center with the mismatch you can have there,
it's incredible.
He's getting pressures.
He's disrupting.
He's becoming a game wrecker already.
So what is it?
He's just fast, strong, quick?
What is it?
330, fast, strong, quick.
He's got it all.
And he's got pass rush moves, which a lot of times rookies come in,
they don't have that because they're so used to just being able to press people
or be able to run around guys on the edge.
But once you develop moves, then you get pretty good, right?
This guy's got it already.
In college, he was going against a pretty good O-line on Bloody Tuesday.
Yeah, down there in Georgia.
I would say that probably helped in the SEC.
You're talking about his hand movement, though.
Yeah, he's like an MMA guy whenever he's in there already.
That's something you see with Mathis and those guys,
even with the Gridiron gang, like you're always working those hands.
He's just natural.
He has a lateral quickness, like you said, the explosiveness.
He's a finisher, too.
He's not just getting there.
He finishes when he gets back.
He's a dog.
It feels like Philadelphia is the right place for him to land as well
because Sirianni has really brought out the best of him.
Also, there's like, what, 15 Georgia Bulldogs
there? He's got a lot of people that he
knows, especially with what he was coming through, went
through, how it was all going.
Him getting dropped into a familiar place and a
coaching staff that appreciates everything he's about
has obviously made him great.
Good for the Eagles. They lose Sue.
Dominick and Sue was there last year.
Lose Sue, lose Hargrave. What do you got? Now we was there last year. Sign on. Hargrave. Lose Sue.
Lose Hargrave.
What do you got?
Oh, now we got Fletcher Cox and a guy that they're calling a rhino.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, they just reload.
Good for Howie over there.
Well, and like the rookie wall, you guys can probably speak on it more,
but I assume it's because that happens to players because they use them,
they overwork them.
With the Eagles, their defensive line rotation is so good that it's hard to
imagine he hits a rookie wall like everyone else does
just because they don't need him for every single down.
He can come in and do what he's been doing, just wrecking every single game.
Let's talk about game wreckers on the defensive side.
Micah Parsons responded to George Kittle with the t-shirt that George Kittle had underneath his pads on Sunday Night Football.
Obviously, we asked George Kittle about it.
At first, he said, yeah, it was just on my loop. Didn't know what that was.
Then he said he was paying homage to
throwback
1994
Niners team that had a similar
shirt. And then Micah Parsons answered
on Micah Parsons' podcast,
where Micah said, you're making this personal
pretty much.
My guy, but I'm going to say this. Laugh now,
cry later. We got something for that just trust
if we see them again just trust and we're gonna put it just like that i ain't gonna put too much
on it you're gonna make it personal we could make it personal so then right after micah answers
george kittle debo samuel is on the up and adam show with k adams and this is what debo samuel
says in response to what micah said in response to what George Kittle did.
How personal is it?
It was already personal before the game started.
Now, 42 to 10, I don't think you want to see us again.
It might be a little bit worse.
Okay.
So that is something that normally you'd hear players say, that's fun.
It's that Debo's just like, yeah, it was our, what are we talking?
It's going to get personal.
Well, for one side, it felt already personal, which is the Niners.
They're the ones that won by 32 points.
Maybe the Cowboys should have made this personal going into the game.
But then the Niners don't back off at all.
Don't say, hey, it's all good.
It's like it might get worse next time.
I love everything about what's happening right now,
and I enjoy the culture that this Niners team has. Yeah, I love the shit
talking, and now it's obviously going to be something else
surrounding this game if they
see each other again, which we assume
they will at some point down the line. But I
love it. Getting on the podcast now,
do I love getting on the mic talking about after losing
about 32 points?
Not so much, but Pars is a dog. I'm sure he'll
bounce back. Micah had to talk about it. It's his
podcast. It was definitely going to get brought up.
It was going to be something he had to chat about.
You're saying he could have said, well, when you win by 32,
you can do whatever you want and then just move on to the next one.
Hey, like you said, it's his podcast.
He can do whatever the hell he wants.
I appreciate this shit.
Shit, we got to talk about something.
Me too.
I am very thankful that Micah's like, oh, okay.
Is that what you want to do?
Now we know.
And then I like that Debo did not back off at all. Kyle Shanahan obviously didn't tell the was like, oh, okay. Is that what you want to do? Now we know. And then I like that Debo did not back off at all.
Kyle Shanahan obviously didn't tell the boys like,
hey, we just kind of bowed.
Debo's like, we beat the shit out of you guys.
Just shut up.
How about that?
Next time it'll be even worse.
And I truly feel like the Niners feel like
they're only going to get better and better
at this point somehow.
Why would they back off?
They could say whatever they want
and there's going to be
zero repercussions
because they could back up
literally anything they say.
Like,
they could say anything
about any game,
about a wide receiver,
quarterback,
running back,
about the posing,
defense,
it doesn't matter.
We used to talk about this
with Bama fans.
Whenever Bama was on their run,
it'd be so much fun
to be a Bama fan
during that run
because you could literally
talk to anybody
at any point and just say,
yeah, my team's going to beat your team's ass.
And you had a good shot of that taking place.
And for decades, you just got to celebrate every single
week. And then whenever a loss came, obviously it was
devastating, but we'll get you next
time for sure, for real. Now the
Niners are like that. Their fans can talk
shit to anybody. It's what the Patriots fans
were able to do for 20-some years.
Now the Niners, who have not won a Super Bowl with this team,
are seemingly in a position to be able to do the same exact thing.
Good for them getting to experience that right now.
Yeah, and I love the shit talk back, too.
It is awesome that instead of the cookie-cutter answer that we usually get,
like, probably shouldn't have done it, all that, nope, standing by it,
think it's awesome.
And for Micah, I assume there are a lot of Cowboys players that are like, yeah, Micah, you're
one of the top five players. I gotta go
block Nick Bosa when we play the 49ers.
So if you keep pissing them off, it is
going to be worse because I'm not going to have a chance.
That reminds me of an incredible time.
We were kicking a field
goal and it was the end of a quarter.
So we had to go to the other end
and there was a D tackle for the other team.
I forget what team. I think it was Baltimore or Minnesota. it feels like there's purple in my brain i don't remember
was walking next to me and he started shit talking me okay this guy started shit talking me huge dude
like 360 pounds or whatever so i'm not one like i look at him i go what's that buddy and then he
starts saying something so i just go into the rolodex and i and I start firing back at this guy, right?
360, 330, whatever it is.
What's he going to do, fight me in between the quarters?
No way he's going to do that.
So I keep saying stuff.
I said some pretty – I mean, I was going for murder scene.
Head shot.
And he was bringing it back.
And then all of a sudden, he lines up now,
and he's screaming at me through the guard, okay,
through the guard, through the field goal thing.
And I'm like, oh, shut up. You know, like talking to him.
And then set, boom, kick.
Ball goes through.
We walk off.
Guard comes up to me.
Hey, listen, a lot of fun for you, right?
Just to be able to say whatever you want.
Yeah, I'm the one that he had to take.
You know what I mean?
I heard you said some good stuff.
Yeah, obviously got to brattle.
Way to go.
You won the little chirp session.
But I'm the one who almost
got my knee blown out because I'm the human.
So maybe next time, let's not.
I'm like, ooh, my bad completely.
That's a situation happening here potentially
with Micah, with Kittle, with
the Cowboys, with the Niners, because
if they had 11 Micah Parsons on the
Dallas team, which feels like what the Niners do
it feels like that's what the Niners have.
It would be a different story.
What do we think the top is for the Dallas Cowboys this year?
I've become – you said you think they're going to meet later.
That would mean they're getting to the playoffs.
I think they get to the playoffs.
Okay.
So that's what you think.
That's good.
I think they make it to the playoffs.
A.Q.
Shipley, you think the Dallas Cowboys make it to the playoffs?
I do not.
Why?
You think they stink.
Who else?
I think they've lost a very good football player in Diggs,
and I think that changes the outcome on defense.
And I think you're starting to see what can happen, right?
Like the Niners, they do it to a lot of teams, right?
They put the blueprint out.
And if you can attack the edges and kind of hit them where they're soft a little
bit there, and then on offense,
every time Dak's in this game,
everybody, every news
media, every pundit, let's see
what Dak does on the big game. Does he ever
deliver? Jets he did. Jets was a big
game. Tampa.
32 completions, two touchdowns,
no interceptions. Do we have the schedule?
If I can look at this, I think they make it to the
playoffs. It's going to be seven in.
I don't think they win a division.
Obviously, Eagles take the division, but they get in,
and then I guess they're going to do what Dallas does.
They're currently, like if the season were to end today,
which is stupid to even say, but they are currently in the seventh seed.
I appreciate you saying it's stupid to say, and then you said it anyway.
For a talking point, they are currently sitting in the seventh seed.
When you look at the teams below them, it's like...
Go ahead, run them off.
Eight is the Saints.
Packers, Rams, Commanders.
Rams. Rams, yeah.
Rams, maybe. With Kop back.
Packers, maybe, huh, Ty?
Well, maybe. I mean, at this point, though,
it is kind of like any of the teams that are
kind of on the fringe there, seven seed in the playoffs.
It's like, do you really want to go and then either have to play the Eagles
or the Niners, and you're probably going to get beat by four touchdowns,
five touchdowns?
I mean, that's kind of where I'm at with the Packers.
I think it's a little bit different with the Cowboys.
But if they're in that position where they have to go play the Niners,
potentially, if they don't get a bye in the first round,
like that ain't going ain't gonna be good for them congrats to the Niners not making
the Super Bowl in the last what four years yeah five four years yeah 2019 four years and still
being the team that everybody's like you have to beat the Niners at some point yeah you have to
beat the Niners at some point you're gonna have to beat the Niners at some point and what do the
Eagles do uh they just continue to win under the of the ring. Win, win, win.
Undefeated.
Do what you got to do.
The NFC seems to have its two top dogs.
The AFC, though, seemingly open.
Now, I know the Miami Dolphins are up there at the top.
I think the Buffalo Beals in London is going to be an outlier.
Hopefully, we will hope that that's the case,
and they'll be completely back. You think about what Baltimore just had happen to the an outlier. Hopefully, we will hope that that's the case and they'll be completely back. You think
about what Baltimore just had happen
to the Pittsburgh Steelers. You think about
the AFC side with the Chiefs and
what they're able to accomplish.
We have no clue what the AFC
side's going to do. But what I do know
is that Tom Brady said he saw Bill Belichick
and it's the same Bill Belichick.
And although New England might be turning
his back on Bill Belichick,
correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, no, you are not.
New England fans have basically said,
all right, Bill, we are moving on.
This is what Tom Brady had to say about Bill Belichick
on his Let's Go podcast hosted by...
Jim Gray.
Who asks incredible sponsored questions.
Yes, he does.
And it sounds like...
Well, Tom, I don't know if you've had lunch yet today,
but if you haven't,
Golden Corral's buffet is actually only $10.99 this week.
So, you know, maybe you throw for 1,099 yards next week
if you go to Golden Corral this week for $10.99.
And also, Tom, what are your thoughts on...
And now what do you think about Bill Belichick?
And this is what Tom Brady had to say.
He's still the same coach.
He's doing the same things.
He's still coaching the same way.
So how do you think he's dealing with this mentally?
How do you think that he is handling this when everything that he's about is the exact opposite?
I think the results are different from what they've been from,
but I know that he's still got the same work ethic.
He's got the same coaching style.
And I think the thing that I think as I watch not only the Patriots,
but a lot of other things, football is a hard sport.
It was very different when I was in there because I could control a lot of the outcome.
When I'm sitting here watching from afar, I realize, God, there's a lot of variables.
There's a lot of things that need to go right in order to have team success.
I was a part of a lot of those teams.
I didn't take any of those things for granted.
I needed a great defense.
I needed a great kicker.
Obviously, I needed a great coach.
I needed great receivers and a great O-line.
If I was going to be successful as a player, I needed a great coach. I needed great receivers and a great O-line. If I was going to be successful as a player, I needed all those things. And I was fortunate to have a lot of those things over a long period of time. The teams that lose, they're putting a lot into it. The teams that win, they're putting a lot into it. It's a relentless sport, you know, and there's nothing is given to you. It's all hard. Losing is hard. Winning is hard. You know, to be in it year in and year out is hard. Winning is hard. To be in it year in and year out is hard.
To lose and have a horrible season is very hard.
That's from Let's Go on SiriusXM, the Mad Dog Sports radio channel,
I do believe, more specifically.
But I appreciate the fact that Tom's like,
now that I'm watching these games, wow, it takes a lot.
I mean, you've got some guys really good in some places,
and then their coaches are just putting them in terrible positions.
Then you see some teams it's good, and then the offensive line is horrendous.
Then you get a team that's in a situation and they miss a kick.
It never happened to me.
I remember the ball always going through the uprights.
I remember always being put in a position to succeed.
I remember my offensive line always making things happen.
When a defense needs to get a stop, even on a goal line,
when Russell Wilson is under center and Marshall Lynch is in the hot, they need to make things happen. When the defense needs to get a stop, even on the goal line, when Russell Wilson is under center and Marshall Lynch, they need to make it happen. It's like, I feel like
Tom is getting a chance now to look back on how fortunate and how lucky he was for that dynastic
run. Do you agree whenever you hear him talk about that? 100%. He's right. I mean, the good teams and
the worst team, they put in the same amount of effort, the same amount of work. You've been on
bad teams. You've been on good teams. What's the difference? It isn't
very much. It's this much. And that's what people don't
realize. And obviously, he's having the chance
to see that now as a fan. He understood
it as he was going through it as a player, but I think
now he's... I don't think he understood it. I think he just...
Maybe not. You're right. I do this. I show
up. We win. For sure. I do
this. I show up.
We win. Variable. I do my
job. We show up. We win. Now he my job, we show up, we win.
Now he's watching these games like, why don't they just win?
He owns the Raiders now.
He owns the Raiders now, and obviously they get a big-time win over the Packers.
But I can't wait for him to watch the Raiders and just be like,
why aren't these guys just winning?
What is going on?
For 20 years, we were able to just, you do this, you do that, then you win.
Now, Bill Belichick was certainly a part of that,
where he's talking about his work ethic and how much he's in it.
I think a lot of people around Bill are potentially hoping
that Bill will experience what Tom has experienced.
Like, hey, Bill, why don't you step away from the game a little bit,
get a little different perspective on it, and go like, oh, I beat the game.
I did really good.
There's nothing more for me to do.
Although I feel like Bill thinks he's got to build one more championship team.
He was asked about the quarterback situation in his press conference,
and we are in prime time Bill Belichick press conference season.
Here's what he had to say about the change of quarterback.
Will Mac Jones be starting?
Yeah, we're not making any changes.
What were you able to accomplish yesterday?
Work on some of the things we think will help us in the game.
Help us play better football.
What were you able to accomplish?
You know, we worked on some things I think will make us better at football.
Next question.
Why Mac Jones?
Just literally just answered it.
Okay, didn't I?
I'm not doing a song and dance the entire time.
As a Patriots fan, you hear Max starting again.
What is your thoughts?
Love it, but I want to go 1-16.
So I'm glad we're not making changes because we are on the road to a top three pick.
Let's stay on that road.
Let's stay the course.
To your point, I do think that both of them, Brady and Belichick,
probably will look back and not really understand how they did it.
I don't know if they even know.
I think so, too.
I think they will think to themselves.
They'll probably drink.
What does Tom drink?
Like some avocado?
Oh, he drinks tequila.
He's a tequila guy.
Just from the boat parade.
That's what he said.
So when he's winning Super Bowls, he'll drink tequila.
We assume.
I don't know if you saw.
It seems like his face has settled in.
Yeah.
Right?
It looks great.
He does.
He looks phenomenal. Glowing. Not Bill. He also looks phenomenal. I don't know if you saw. It seems like his face is settled in. Yeah. Yeah. Right? It looks great. He does. He looks phenomenal.
Glowing.
Not Bill.
That's Bill.
He also looks phenomenal.
I don't know.
Bill seems to really.
Football seems to be really wearing.
Tom looks phenomenal.
I just.
There was a couple weeks ago where people were starting to say some things about how Tom looked and everything like that.
Would like to let Tom know as of October 11th.
You look incredible, Tom.
He looks great. You look really,
really good, Tom. Congrats. But do you think
there's going to come a time where he's having his little avocado
juice that he just squeezed into a cup, and
Bill Belichick's probably drinking, I don't know, a whole bottle of
whiskey by the time he's done with this entire thing,
and they start chit-chatting about how lucky they've been,
how fortunate they were, the different wins
that kind of came out of nowhere. How about when
Vinatieri made that 40-yarder in the middle of a blizzard
where physics tells us, still, they have no idea how I made it. It's like that type of came out of nowhere. How about when Vinatieri made that 40-yarder in the middle of a blizzard where physics tells us still they have no idea how it made it?
It's like that type of thing,
I hope they have a chance to really look back and reminisce on.
But right now, Bill Belichick's in the middle
and still trying to create that thing again.
Will they ever be able to do something like that in New England?
Yeah, once Bill hangs it up, obviously.
Oh!
Yeah, once he's hanging it up, like you said,
once he's out of the thick of it but like
tom talked about like all when he's from the outside looking in you forget about you know
all the different variables we obviously talk about sports every day everyone does
but like it's humans in there like you talk about in the trenches aaron talks about from the
quarterback position you talk about the teams i'll talk about from the secondary like you can call
whatever you can put that work in but everybody guys go out there and execute every play in that
you know,
two to four seconds is going to make a difference every game.
And it's tough.
But when you have a guy like Tom who can control so much,
you can control the protectors, you can control where I throw to,
the coverages, how you practice, you know,
what's the coach in the locker room, guys showing up late, not showing up late,
like all those different things, and it becomes habit.
So they'll appreciate it when it's all finished.
Do you think Bill will be able to build one up again?
Not in New England.
Because I don't think they'll ever lose enough to get another quarterback.
Like, they got lucky with Tom. This is like a Pittsburgh Steelers situation as well.
Now, granted, obviously, Pittsburgh Steelers didn't have the dynasty
that the New England Patriots had for two decades.
And everybody that was in the league, I think,
was so baffled how these guys have continued to just win games
and how they continue to get lucky when it came to health and injury.
You know, like people get hurt on every team.
But whenever key positions get hurt, then it's like season completely off the rails.
We had it this year, but then we lost said guy here and we had no chance.
For some reason, the Patriots were able to just kind of withstand that for two decades.
Now, the Kansas
Chiefs I guess are doing the same damn thing how many straight consecutive hosted AFC championship
games or something like that every single year five straight AFC championship hosting it since
Mahomes has started the first one he hosts it was the last one with Brady in the past and they've
won two Super Bowls and they've had a battle with injuries with Patrick and Travis and they've lost
players they lose the best wide receiver in all of football.
We're in the middle kind of watching it happen
here in Kansas City, so I guess
it is possible again. But if you're
just meddling at like 13,
14 draft pick, it's going
to be hard to get, I guess, the weapon changer that you're
going to need to change the entire program. Bingo.
And that's why I want to be terrible.
Would you go through another 12 weeks
of your team just being absolutely garbage?
Without question.
I would lose 34-0 every single Sunday for the rest of the year
if that meant we got Drake May come April.
Because that is the only way to be in it.
We're talking about teams who are in it.
Brady and Mahomes are the two dynasties.
They're two of the best quarterbacks to ever play.
You can't go with a guy who isn't not just good, like exceptional.
Like, look at Josh Allen, Lamar, Burrow, Mahomes.
That's just one.
Jalen Hurts.
Yeah, yeah.
Brock Purdy.
Hurts, Purdy on the other side.
But even just to get to a conference championship game.
Oh, AFC you're saying.
Yeah, it's like you have to beat all these guys.
And, like, I like Mac Jones.
Three weeks ago I was a Mac Jones believer,
and I still think he could be good,
but I don't think he'll ever be
a Josh Allen or a Mahomes or
one of those guys who is at the top of the list.
What did Dan Orlovsky say about Mac Jones?
He said, if you put him in
San Francisco right now, he is Brock Purdy.
No, he didn't say that.
He said, if you play like that...
Why are you putting words in my mouth?
Well, he said he'd play like him.
Brock Purdy is currently the odds-on favorite to win the MVP in a lot of places.
So if he were to play like him, he would be the MVP favorite right now.
But now, I think what Dan was trying to say is Bill O'Brien is not Kyle Shanahan.
And the weapons that the Patriots have are not what the Niners have.
So he was trying to point out that what Mac Jones is going through
is vastly different than what Brock Purdy is going through. If you give trying to point out that what Mac Jones is going through is vastly different
than what Brock Purdy's going through.
If you give Mac Jones the setup
that Brock Purdy has,
he'd be playing like that,
is what he said.
So then he calls us,
he goes, why you put words in my mouth?
It was like, what did you say?
I said he'd be playing like that.
That is...
Are you saying he's playing like...
No, I never said he's better than Brock.
I just said he'd be playing like that. never said he's better than brock i just said
he'd be playing like that i'm like dad i don't know if you're making your case better or worse
right now but the decision making that brock purdy does is his best trait i think now obviously
having the weapons that can get open and having shanahan do his thing is obviously a weapon
but brock purdy is like this he's not getting paid anything so the salary cap can do
whatever they can do and then decision making I think is the most impressive part of AQ Shipley
I think it's the anticipation I think that's the one thing that you see from him is he knows where
the ball is supposed to go pre-snap so he can just sit there smooth get back to his drop put the ball
in a spot and let those guys go get it the scheme helps obviously right like they can stick
with the run game he's never how come everybody doesn't just do that scheme because you have to
have it and that's the other thing we got to talk about with just do that guy do that and it's do
what deniers and that's the other thing right like we talk about this so whenever whenever i played
and you're in a pass happy offense right you spend the majority of your time working on pass plays
and pass protection all this
stuff they spend 90 of their practice working that zone scheme and that is the only way you can get
good at it and you have to do it physical like physical practices in season which a lot of teams
don't want to commit to right so they have to buy in completely to that whole thing they do it it
continues to work and they got a quarterback now that's lightened it up.
And he – Practice, too.
I mean, that's a good point.
That's a big part of the whole dynasty thing, too.
We heard about Andy Reid, how he runs practices and training camps.
And those Patriot practices were hard, too.
I've seen Brady's every condition after every practice.
Hell, yeah.
Man, everybody can't run that scheme.
You heard George Kittle when he came on and talked about him being in it seven years
and having a great job by John Lynch as well,
finding those type of players that can handle all those moving parts,
all those different players.
Hey, Kyle Shanahan, you're putting in seven, eight plays that we haven't even ran.
He said on Saturday and Sunday.
Yeah, everybody can't do that.
Everybody likes certain teams.
A lot of young quarterbacks are playing.
You can't do that with young quarterbacks. certain teams, a lot of young quarterbacks are playing. You can't do that with young quarterbacks.
So it's a lot that goes into that shit.
Brock Purdy, very young, able to handle it all,
which is another part of the whole like that thing that Dan Orlovsky said
where it's like, come on, Dan-o, although we appreciate Dan-o.
You know who would kind of – I mean, just thinking about it now,
maybe not Mac, feels like Gardner Minshew would almost be unbelievable
in the 49ers scheme as well.
We're not trying to get Gardner anywhere but the Indianapolis Colts.
That's true. Hey, we need him for the next four to eight
weeks. Honestly, I think there's a chance
he goes undefeated the next eight weeks.
Certainly possible.
You start Minshew in the playoffs or do you go back to
A.R.? Oh yeah, if he goes 8-0?
We're going Minshew mania, pal. We're running wild
all over everything. He's putting balls, right? Oh yeah. If he goes 8-0? Yeah. We're going Minshew mania, pal. We're running wild all over everything.
For sure.
He's putting balls, right?
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Right?
That's what Gardner Minshew's doing right now.
Yeah.
Everybody needs to know that.
We watched it live.
It makes no sense because he's not that large.
He's kind of a little fellow.
Physical stature. So he goes into that hud not that large kind of a little fellow physical stature
so he goes into that huddle he kind of disappears in there and then all of a sudden walk out you
just see the moxie just radiating from within it's like the sun the football gods cast sun down
on his beautiful frame and his mullet and his hair going out and he just is in complete control
has zero worries at all and then he'll have somebody in his face, can't see it,
and he bends a football around a guy
right there.
I love this Minshew mania. So good.
And it feels like
if the first five games is any
indicator in Anthony Richardson's career,
we're going to have to be paying for
a pretty good backup quarterback
for the rest of his career. Let's just
keep Minshew in Indianapolis for 10 years or so.
Well, Jim Sorge was a great film guy, homework guy.
Comes out there, does his thing.
Also good at cards.
I believe he was a pretty good fisherman.
Solid golfer.
Good boozer.
Love Jim Sorge.
But I don't know if he has what Gardner Minshew has.
And remember, Gardner Minshew has been yearning for this moment
since when he was in Jacksonville, and he was selling out that stadium,
taking the place over, and then boom, full rebuild, get the hell out of here.
Let's pivot away from the NFL, although there's plenty of stories to chat about.
Let's pivot away from the NHL, okay, because the Pittsburgh Penguins suck again.
Game one of 82, a lot of hockey left.
A lot of hockey left.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying
If they're not fresh now
And they can't close out
Games game 1
I don't know how
They're going to be 81
At the age of 50
You got next year
Don't worry
Oh Chicago
Shut up
You guys got the next
15 years with this
Conor Bedard guy
He's awesome
So sick
Leaves the locker room
Without his stick
Yep
They got a camera
Just falling around
Whoa whoa whoa
Need a stick
Where's it at, boys?
And then how about when he goes up for the
puck drop and the ref
goes, all right, boys, this is the actual
opening puck drop of Conor Bedard's
career against Sidney Crosby
and the Penguins last night. The ref, Scott,
what's his name? Scott something is the one talking
here.
Hey, Sid, welcome back for another season.
Conor,
welcome to the NHL, man.
Hey, guys. It's showtime.
Have a great game.
It's on. Kelly Sutherland,
I believe, is his name. That was a great way to
start. I love the way hockey refs kind of interact,
but it is difficult to know that the Penguins
probably not going to be in the Stanley Cup, which sucks.
Clean win by Sid there.
Yeah, I think he beat Conor every single time.
That was an alpha moment here.
Hey, I'm 35.
You are not.
I am taking the puck away from your face.
I guess Conor Bedard didn't win any of the face-offs last night.
Sidney as a rookie did not either.
That's a strength thing I think
that's potentially happening.
I'm sure he'll figure it out.
But what an electrifying start to the NHL.
Let's pivot away from the NHL, away from the NFL.
Let's go to college ball.
Ladies and gentlemen, the college football season has been electrifying.
In this year, there's been one piece added that everybody has said
that it's absolutely lifted everything around it.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for this week's
General's Top 5 College Football Program.
The General Bob Carpenter is here. General, how you doing, pal?
I'm doing great, man.
I was just enjoying some of that NHL talk,
little NFL talk. I mean,
clock management, figuring things out.
And you know why Gardner Minshew is so great?
I mean, Pat, he's got the best collection
of jorts you're going to find anywhere in America.
Well, I don't know.
I feel pretty good about my jorts collection, but you're right.
I do believe he and I have had conversations
about what's covering our thighs.
And last time I talked to him at training camp,
he just loves ball, dude.
Like, just all things football, loves it.
And he also has this perspective that, like,
don't know when the last snap's coming.
So, like, trying to make the most of everything.
Perfect guy for the situation right now in Indianapolis, Bob.
Perfect guy.
Absolutely.
My buddy Schlegs was down with him in Jacksonville.
He goes, man, like you said, he loves ball.
All his teammates love him.
And he plays like he's got nothing to lose.
Because once you've been benched a couple times
and everybody thinks you're no good in a backup,
what are they going to do?
Send you back to being a backup again? you're the only option they have anymore and also he was not
scared to live in like a rattled rv yeah he wears shorts i don't think he spends a lot of money
he's just this like hippie character it's like you fire me who care whatever but he's out there
slaying it for us let's talk about college football though let's dive into your top five
any big changes that we need to expect or let's just dive right in here coach we got some changes we got a little mix-up this is what
season is everybody's finally getting their conference slates and you were just down in
red river this week so i know you witnessed a great one uh starting off at number five
we've got ou that's the oregon Oregon Ducks, University of Oregon here.
And so that's a nice little deal for them.
They're coming in.
They're coming off a bye.
They've got a huge one this week, Pat, out in Seattle, Washington,
taking on the Washington Huskies.
I've said this for the last couple weeks.
I think Oregon is the best team in the Pac-12.
They can run the football.
They have 230 yards on the ground.
But plus, man, their defense is stingy.
They're better on defense than I think a lot of people believe.
So I've got them at number five.
Okay, so taking on Pennix in that Huskies offense
where three wide receivers averaging over 100 yards per game when they're playing.
Not everybody's playing every single game because of injuries and everything like that.
You think Oregon's defense is going to be able to handle the explosive offense of Washington?
I think they'll be able to slow them down enough.
And the key thing for Oregon is when you look at them,
they can run the football and they've got a good defense,
so they don't have to race them to 70.
I mean, teams that are good can play different ways.
Now, I don't know if you need more personalities than Billy Milligan,
but you have to be able to run it sometimes.
You've got to be able to throw it.
You've got to be able to do some different things. I know you like that drop right there.
That's pretty solid, yeah. The monster's inside.
You're going to want to watch that. He's from my hometown
of Lancaster, Ohio, but they can
win in a multitude of ways, which is what
I like. Okay, so number five, you go to Oregon.
We'll be out there for game day in Seattle.
Four and a half hour flight. Can't wait to get
out there. I've heard that people
in Washington really enjoy me as a human, too.
Sure.
So I'm excited to take the long haul out there and do our thing.
That's a big one for the Pac-12 in their last year of being the Pac-12.
Who's the number four, General?
All right, number four, a team that you just watched in Dallas, Texas.
I thought Texas was one of the best teams in the country
when they went down there into the fairgrounds and took care of business.
I have the Oklahoma Sooners taking care of it.
Hey, they jumped up there.
Dylan Gabriel's a one-man show with what he was able to do through the air
and then making big plays on the ground.
You don't expect them to rush for 100 yards plus every game.
But the real key to me, that Oklahoma defense last year, Pat, was bad.
And Brent Venables, people are talking about him.
If they don't get it cleaned up this year, they're in trouble.
And look at what he's done, man.
He went in on the biggest stage game day in front of God and everybody
in the state of Texas and got it done.
And, man, you've got to tip your cap, and I've got them at four.
We've got Stutzman joining us actually at 2.15 Eastern Standard Time.
Stutzman, the linebacker who got the upside-down horns tattooed on his thigh,
was also the one that gave the pregame motivational speech.
Also the leading tackler, I think, in Big 12.
And also the guy that was in on every single play as we watched live.
Can't wait to chat with him.
Congrats, Oklahoma.
I thought Texas was going to be too big, too strong, too fast for them.
This felt like the year the Texas team was built to go on a run.
And to do that, you've got to be big in the right places.
D-line, O-line, got to have explosive playmakers outside
and a quarterback that can do his thing,
let alone a running back, which they certainly have.
But Oklahoma, size for size, matched up with them.
Speed-wise, matched up with them.
Gritty, technique, Dylan Gabriel never blinked.
It was fun to watch that Oklahoma team.
And I think a lot of us didn't know what the Oklahoma team was.
We apologize.
Because we were just assuming Texas, they get that Alabama win.
They've kind of proven themselves already.
Oklahoma, they still have last year's kind of stink on them
for what happened last year in Venables' first year.
Massive win.
I'm happy you showed them a little respect
on your top five because I enjoyed watching
them play football. They were some dogs, dude.
Some dogs on that team. They got
players, man. And like you said, Pat, they got smoked
and embarrassed last year.
And I think now what's setting up,
we might have a collision course with Texas
and OU, the rematch. And so we'll see
how that shakes out. But both of these teams
should win out. And if that's the case, they'll be playing for a Big 12 championship. College football playoff spot on the rematch, and so we'll see how that shakes out, but both of these teams should win out, and if that's the case, they'll be
playing for a Big 12
championship. College football playoff spot on the line there
probably at the end of the season.
That's a huge deal.
Who do you got at three, General?
Number three, we've got the Georgia
Bulldogs. They slid down a spot
this week. Down a spot!
They played their best football!
They did play really good football,
but there's a couple other teams that played some
really good ball, too, but Georgia, Carson
Beck's hitting his stride. He's been playing
really, really well.
Their defense finally stepped up. This was the
first complete game that I saw Georgia
put together, and here's the thing, man.
There is a lot of mess at the top
of college football right now, so trying to parcel
this out, man, is incredibly difficult.
That's the first time I've seen that Georgia run defense look like they did,
you know, last year and probably the year before.
So I feel better about where they're at.
They got Vandy this week.
And the problem is, like, I don't know, even against Tennessee,
if we're going to really figure out what this Georgia Bulldog team looks like.
I feel like the Georgia Bulldogs team feel like they figured out who they are this past
weekend.
And the Kentucky run game was their whole thing.
Ray Davis had like 200 and some yards, 189 after contact the week before.
So we are excited to see if this Georgia defense is going to be the Georgia defensive pass.
They show up.
And Carson Beck, he's like, what, 6'6"?
Huge.
Huge.
Dealing.
I mean, he is absolutely dealing.
Brock Bowers is still Brock Bowers.
Tony Diggs, I believe, is looking at some stats right now with Georgia
or no? Yeah, I was just looking at the last three
games. He's been, Beck has
been unbelievable and it's because he's decided,
hey, let's just throw the ball to Brock Bowers because he's the best
tight end potentially in the last decade.
Smart. Smart play. We don't mind it.
I like the fact you slid Georgia down
because they're going to hear this and be like, oh, is that
right? Back-to-back national champions.
Just played our best game of the season.
People are saying Georgia's back.
General's like, not so fast, my friends.
Who's at number two, Bob?
All right, number two is just because they have been incredibly impressive
as well.
Their schedule hasn't been a ton to write home about either.
But I got to give credit to the Michigan Wolverines
and what they've been able to do.
Since Jim Harbaugh's been back, man, they've been able to pound the rock.
And what is really impressive is J.J. McCarthy,
if he doesn't throw interceptions, he's got the athleticism,
he can buy time, and I think that they've been playing
as good a football as anybody.
Now, their schedule hasn't been crazy tough,
but if you look at what they've done, they've been competing,
and I believe they've covered the number in every single game this year.
Blake Corham's still Blake Corham, too, I do believe, right?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Touchdown-wise, he is.
Touchdown-wise, he is, yes.
Yeah, so Blake Corham's back.
They run the ball.
Harbaugh's got the boys buzzing.
Michigan at two.
That's one Big Ten school.
I assume there's going to be another that's about to pop in here at one, Bob?
Well, Coach, I mean, they've had one of the biggest wins of the week.
They were taking on the top-ranked.
One of the top-ranked offenses in the Big Ten and one of the top in the country.
His brother is quarterbacking the highest-flying offense in the NFL.
That's the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well, taking down the Maryland Terrapins, man. They were averaging
350 yards through the air.
I give that defense a lot of credit. The offense was
slow at first, and this is what
they have that I think they probably haven't had the last
couple of years, man. Their defense is able to
step up and get stops when they
need to and make those big plays
that maybe they hadn't been making before.
Is Oppenheimer still a linebacker
for Ohio State?
Eichenberg, you mean?
There it is.
He's the A-ball, that guy.
That guy is the absolute.
Eichenberg still over there?
The boys still flying around?
They're flying around, dude.
They're making some plays.
They need to clean the linebackers up a little bit,
but I got my boy James Lernitis.
He's on the case.
James Lernitis is on the case.
You can ask A.G. about him.
He's doing his best Luke Fickle impersonation.
So he's going to have those guys cleaned up and ready to go here in a couple weeks against Penn State.
Now, General, I don't know if you heard this or not, but Maryland's opponents going into this game,
I think we're like 3-50 or something against Power 5 schools.
So everybody was making this to be a big game because this was Maryland doing Maryland stuff.
And Talia Tongvaloa is the guy.
Here we go.
And then they run into the buzzsaw that is Ohio State.
I think Ohio State people wanted people to not hear that what Maryland had
played against was not that great.
But even though Maryland had not had great opponents,
you still saw something out of that game that makes you believe Ohio State
has what it takes to go on and win this whole thing this year?
I think Maryland is the fourth best team in the Big Ten.
And I don't know if they can beat Michigan or Penn State,
but they'll be able to give them both a run.
They're going to challenge.
They can score the football.
And the biggest thing is this is the best they've been defensively,
especially up front in quite some time.
So I know they haven't played anybody yet,
and that's part of the problem six weeks in.
There's still teams that are trying to figure out who they are.
But that Maryland team, they're pretty good.
This is Mike Loxley's best squad.
AQ, I saw you getting all upset over there about Penn State not being in the top five.
You wanted three Big Ten schools in the top five?
Absolutely.
It's the best conference in college football right now.
There's one SEC team in the general's top five,
a Big 12 team, a Pac-12 team, and two Big Ten teams.
That is the state of college football in 2023, though,
which is why this season has been so much more electrifying
than maybe seasons past.
Everybody feels like they got a shot.
Everybody feels like they got a chance.
Does Penn State have one?
Do you think, Bob?
Does Penn State have one?
Coach, they're a really good team, and in two weeks, we're going to find out.
I mean, the best thing Ohio State's got going for them is the fact that fox does the big noons so penn state can't have the white outs against them
in michigan anymore and they have penn state at home because i'm gonna tell you this you can ask
aq you got to go there sometime pat if you ever play a night game in happy valley in a big moment
special man you can't hear yourself talk from me to my computer screen you got no space at all
me to my computer screen you got no space at all he does that in his living room at his house he does that as his wife actually records him
you gotta watch them time if you look at that upper deck hat when they're doing that
that thing is swaying about four or five feet
up in the air. I'm sitting there looking at it thinking,
I pray that this thing doesn't collapse.
It is an electric and rocket environment.
So when they get the little songs going,
dude, it is crazy. If you've seen it.
And they're a cult, too. They're blinders on.
They are all the way in.
I don't know if you saw James Franklin's
press conference yesterday. He was asked about
why they're not taking more deep shots.
Here's James Franklin interacting with
a reporter who's been covering Penn State for how
long? At least since I was there.
15, 20 years. So this is not a high schooler
that head coach of Penn State James Franklin
is interacting with or a college student.
This is a grown-ass
man asking a football question
to James Franklin. Last question
from Zoom, Corey Geiger.
Hey, good afternoon, James.
Hey, Corey. A follow-up to what
you were just asked there about Drew.
Is there a balance
though between, hey,
we need you to throw the ball deep no matter
just take a shot. Don't
overtake it.
Take a shot. We need to see it.
We're going to call it.
And we need you to get some confidence in doing this as opposed to even giving a young quarterback the chance to say,
hey, just check it down if it's not there.
I don't really understand what you're saying because we would never.
Like, my skin is curling when you say just drop back and chuck it deep no matter what.
Like, that is like – I don't even know what you're saying.
It's like you're speaking from Mars.
Just send a guy on a post pattern, take the shot, throw it.
No matter what.
Give your receiver a chance to make a play on a ball.
Even if he might be covered 30 yards down the field,
maybe you think he'll be open 45 yards down the field like Godwin did
or with Jahan or KJ.
I still don't like you're speaking Japanese.
We have never done that.
Just throw the ball up and maybe he'll be open and maybe he'll catch it.
My skin is like – you're making me uncomfortable.
I don't know what you're talking about.
So, yeah, we would not do that.
We would never do that.
We've never thought about doing that as a head coach,
as an offensive coordinator, as a receivers coach.
I coached the receivers. I didn't want them to do that um so no no strong no like yeah
no i'm hoping we can cut this out so this doesn't even like get out into the universe
you can't it's Yep. I love college football
because how many people
are invested
and want to see a team succeed
and it's their lifeline
and generations of everything.
I also enjoy the fact
that James Franklin
just got so obnoxiously uncomfortable.
As that question's happening,
he's moving his hand
and then he starts hearing
what he's alluding to
and it's just...
No.
Why is this human
allowed to speak in my press conference?
What is he even talking about?
If things good for Penn State, we believe that even if Drew doesn't throw it up into double coverage,
the Ohio boy, we think Penn State's still going to be able to go on a run, General?
I think so.
They're a good team.
It'll be really interesting.
Can James Franklin win?
Thank you.
We're about to find out.
Two weeks.
Can James Franklin win?
Because that was a great
press. He won that press conference. He won that moment with the Zoom call. And I know what that
guy was alluding to, by the way, because you've heard other coaches say once a quarter, we need
to be thrown a deep just to keep defenses honest. Like even if it's not there, we need to script in
a deep ball, which I think is what he was getting to. Now, James Franklin did not hear that. He
heard something much different. But can James Franklin win the big one?
That's the big question, right?
That is the big question.
I mean, it's like 2-20 now at this point or something like that
against top 10 teams.
1-0 against Corey Geiger there.
Yeah, he won that one.
He won that one.
That was awesome.
So it's Penn State, Ohio State win.
Two weeks?
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
And, hey, you even missed it earlier in that presser.
He threw like a tacit knife to the back of Michigan talking about buying out of contracts
with big non-conference games.
Didn't call him out by name, but there's some nice audio of that you're going to want to
stumble upon, Pat, because he was on fire yesterday.
James Franklin's feeling himself.
Let's keep it going.
Two weeks from now, they get a big win over Ohio State.
Whoa!
And those mics ready to go. Any gimmicks
we got this week? General, we need to keep an eye on?
Coach, I got two gimmicks for
you. I don't normally like to
call out coaches or programs in a
negative way. I'm a positive guy, but
Pat, especially when you've been in special
teams, clock management is number
one. I've got my Flavor Flay.
We're going to put the clock on.
Mario Cristobal, coach. Pat, I know you've been out there on punt team before and they say,
do not punt that football until there is one second left on the clock. Do not snap it.
You've got to know, you've got to understand, and especially you've got to know when you can
just take a knee. Everything that happened after that, that's going to be all on you, man.
And I hurt for those players who lost.
Granted, they made some mistakes, but you didn't need to snap it.
What are you doing?
Yeah, General, that's like elementary stuff.
If you get to two minutes left with a first down
and the other team doesn't have a timeout, guess what?
Game's over.
That is the goal that every team is trying to get to.
Trying to get to two minutes, other team no timeouts, we need a first down, this thing is over. That's elementary goal that every team is trying to get to. Trying to get to two minutes, other team, no timeouts, we need
a first down, this thing is over.
That's elementary, I feel like. When I came into football,
my junior year of high school,
feels like that was something in Pittsburgh
growing up we knew because we're NFL
town and everything, but that's just like
low-hanging fruit of like
what's football information I should
know? Boom. Now I'm getting
paid millions of dollars to coach and teach football to people.
Should I know?
Yes.
And then immediately after the game, got to keep two hands on the ball.
It's like, buddy, buddy.
That was an ineptitude at a level that I don't think any of us could have expected,
especially you said you feel bad for the players.
I feel bad for the coaching staff.
I feel bad for the school.
They were undefeated.
Miami was back.
This was, here we go.
Yeah, go ahead.
You're the offensive coordinator,
and he signals in and tells you to call a play.
Like, oh, play.
No.
What are we doing?
Here's the play.
Victory need.
Here's the play.
Give me a linebacker to go stand back here and run back
and tell him to do a backflip if he has to.
We're kneeling this thing out.
We're getting a dub.
You should be putting your players in a position to win.
That's the only thing that you should be mattering or thinking about.
And obviously the complete opposite happened.
But college football is riddled with those situations.
I think if you look around, like if we were to start snooping around
at coaches making low football IQ decisions in college,
I think we
would have a seven-hour show. I mean, the Mad Hatter back when he was at LSU, it was every week.
Every week. It was every single week. There was some timeout flub. There was some run the clock
flub. There was some too many men. There was something happening. It's like these dudes are
getting paid millions of dollars to be football coaches, and there's some elementary stuff that's
happening. Chris Ball will learn, though, right right? Oh yeah, he actually did it before.
Something he's done before.
Anyways, what's the other gimmick there we got, Bob?
All right, I got my Kanye West coming home because you love a good homecoming story.
We're going with the Louisville Cardinals, Jeff Brom.
And unfortunately, I took down my guy, Marcus Freeman, but you want to talk about a raucous
environment down there in Louisville.
They call it, you know, I was looking
at some nicknames. You know, they call it
the Derby City, the Falls City
because of the falls outside of there.
Dude, you got Louisville Sluggers, the home of Muhammad
Ali. Like, you got to go with the Slugger
City right there with what they were able to
do on Saturday night against Notre
Dame. That's a huge win for a guy
going back to his alma mater. Yeah, good
for Braum getting this thing rolling.
You know, we saw last year at TCU Sonny Dyches' first year.
He goes in there.
They end up going on a run all the way to the finals.
It's like, how the hell did this guy pull this off, put his culture in,
get his players in, get his offense in, and get everybody to buy in?
Braum's been able to do that at Louisville in a beautiful fashion.
Massive dub over Notre Dame.
Huge.
And what a Notre Dame moment there. Yeah, I know. You know what I mean?
You lose Ohio State, you don't lose again.
Probably still in the conversation.
Then you lose the Louisville on primetime.
It's like, it's going to be tough to kind of
sneak Notre Dame into anything.
Although I do believe they have a great team
this year. Hey, Bob, you're fantastic
at what you do, pal. We appreciate you.
Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it, Patrick.
Have a great show. Ladies and gentlemen, the
General Bob Grover.
If you don't know by now, I'm talking
about Chi-Town. Sad news
out of Chi-Town this morning.
Former teammate of ours,
former friend of ours,
Sergio Brown, has been
arrested for
the death of his mother, in which he has been
on the run for the last couple weeks with everybody looking for him. They found him in Mexico. He was
then deported to San Diego. Now he's being transported back to Illinois. His mother Myrtle,
I met her. I knew her. She was a wonderful woman. Sergio and I spent a lot of time together back in
the day. I think I speak for everybody that played
alongside Sergio and has been friends
with Sergio over the last couple years.
That has not been a Sergio that we have known.
We have no idea what
he got into, what has happened, but we
know it's an incredibly sad situation,
and we lost a very good lady.
A very, very, very, very
good lady in this whole thing. So that's
I guess good news that they found him,
but terrible news that the whole situation's even taken place.
Yeah, we'll continue to see how everything unfolds.
But like you said, just an overall super sad situation.
I was teammates with Sergio as a rookie,
so I met his mom when he first came in,
and then we're teammates with him again here.
And like you said, last couple of years,
there's been some things very different with him.
So we'll see how that all goes.
Yeah, and you never want to, like, this is terrible,
but, like, something happened at some point through his journey.
He was working for Google at one point.
I mean, he was, like, went to Miami.
I think he got his business degree.
Got his MBA.
Yeah, he got his MBA, was working at Google,
and then he was, like, traveling and, like, kept in touch a little bit.
And then over the last couple, like something we have no idea.
Very sad.
Happy to hear he's in custody though.
And so sorry that his mother obviously got murdered and they're saying it was
him.
So, I mean, sad, sad, sad scene, but we shall keep an eye on it all.
at all.
Joining us now is a man who his knees are a little stiff.
But anytime we see him, you forget
absolute monster.
All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay
Packers, although on this particular show, he's
just a toxic stooge. He's one of the greatest
athletes to ever exist. College football
national champion, Super Bowl champion, current president of Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Haw.
AJ, how you doing, pal? I'm doing well. I thought AQ's not allowed to spar. I thought it was
strictly he hits the bag and he hits the mitts. What are we doing? Bingo. You and I are the only
ones that are in his community of friends that are telling the truth. He was told by a doctor,
don't do anything
and now he's i saw a video he said well he's here trying to take me down he's up against a wall
and they got like four dudes like a train it's like a train coming through one guy comes in
tries to take him down whenever he's done all right he walks off aq still stare that's right
another guy comes in tries to take him down.
Then a 300-pounder comes over, and AQ's just sitting there taking it.
Boom, who's next?
Boom, who's next?
Boom, who's next?
By the fourth guy, though, guess what this little skinny weeble wobble got at him?
Boom, up, down on his back.
Was scared he's never going to get up.
Nobody's telling him this.
They're all, like, happy for him.
He's chasing his dreams.
You're going to put yourself
in real jeopardy.
Do you ever think about this, pal?
No.
Never.
Not once.
You should.
You got to fail it.
You got kids.
If you ain't living life
on the edge,
you're taking up too much space.
Oh!
Tell him, D-Butt.
Tell him, D-Butt.
That was a good one.
We should put that up
on a marquee.
Yeah, where'd you hear that?
If you're not living life
on the edge,
you're taking up too much space.
Like that. Wow! Half over, hear that? If you're not living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Like that.
Wow.
Half over, half back.
So you're only taking
a pack.
If you paralyze yourself,
it's going to be a lot tougher
to live on the edge.
Relax, doctor.
No, they have wheel locks.
Speaking of doctors,
yesterday's conversation
with Aaron Rodgers
certainly garnered
some headlines.
Really?
A lot of people wanted
to talk about a lot of things.
He complimented Jordan Love,
obviously.
He talked about the Packers.
He talked about Hackett getting revenge on Sean Payton
and how happy he was for that.
He set up a debate.
Yeah.
But what nobody's talking about is no F-bombs.
None.
Right?
None.
That's progress.
That's right.
I don't think anybody has mentioned that,
and I think that's rude, AJ,
because if you remember the Wall Street Journal,
the only thing they wrote about was all the F-bombs f-bombs f-bombs Aaron didn't say one f-bomb last night
or yesterday on this show and it was not discussed at all other than that AJ how do you think
yesterday's conversation went with the uh obvious ripple effects afterwards uh I think it uh you
know it went as well as Aaron would have liked it to go. I think he sets up
things for the future that he possibly would entertain him, I guess, and try to instruct
people on whatever his beliefs are. But yeah, I mean, Aaron likes to give his opinion. Obviously,
he feels comfortable in here. So I like that. I appreciate that he feels comfortable.
Just so everybody knows, we understand how dumb it all is oh yeah yeah yesterday my name was mentioned alongside robert f kennedy jr and tony fachi that's right numerous times in a lot of different you know like
high classy hoi toi newspaper magazine blog things i don't think this is a real world that
we're living in but i'm sure happy that a Aaron Rodgers came in saying, I got an idea. I propose a vaccine debate in 2023.
This stopped for a couple years.
But then when he already had teams already made.
And now people are trying to get this into a six-man.
I don't know if you've seen this.
There's people that are trying to make this a six-man.
Well, I mean, Dr. Joe Rogan, obviously,
everybody's saying he needs to get involved.
And on the other side, what did Aaron call them?
Pharmacrats, I believe is what he called them.
You can find any other pharmacist.
There's a lot of them that wanted to sign up.
I've seen them all on my mentions.
Everybody was willing to step in because they all knew a lot of things.
And virologists, I believe, were involved in the whole thing.
What a wild Tuesday.
It felt like we're back in 2020 again.
It did.
It felt like we're right back in the middle of it.
Also, Rand Paul shot his hand up saying, hey, I'd love to get in on this. Okay, don't're back in 2020 again. It did. It felt like we're right back in the middle of it. Also, Rand Paul
shot his hand up saying, hey, I'd love to get in on this.
Okay, don't leave me out of this. I want
in as well.
This thing's going to end up being a 5-on-5.
One of those Russian
mixed martial arts where they're running
at each other doing the whole thing.
Yeah, our name's going to be
associated with that. So I would like to let the world know
yeah, we're not the right place for that.
AJ was trending after it.
AJ Hawkwood?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
But a lot of people were just saying, like, who is this shovel-looking human being who just sits here?
You are.
You are, too.
You are, too.
You are, too.
The Watcher.
You are, too.
The Watcher.
One of the greatest descriptors I have ever heard of AJ.
One of the greatest descriptors I have ever heard of AJ.
But our reactions, you know, whenever Aaron's doing his thing,
my first reaction is to naturally just laugh because I think it's hilarious that I am currently talking to a human
who is very okay if this was to come,
like if this was to come to fruition,
he would, that's, that'd be a massive dream.
That's what he wants.
He would be very dream like not a
joke like obviously making it in a joking fashion but also if we want to do this let's do it and i
am the doof doofus douchebag too in a tank top just being like what is this world uh so we appreciate
eric for coming on and certainly enlightening us about everything because it's not also what he
says it's the reaction
where I learn a lot too.
There's a lot of people that are not happy with what he was saying yesterday.
Now, on the flip side,
boy,
there's people saying Aaron needs to run for president.
I don't know if people know
that. Now, I don't know how we would feel in that particular
case, not a politics and sports show.
At the end of that, it will
be Aaron Rodgers, Travis Kelsey, Oklahoma drill.
Just because if we're going to do football,
we got to do football. And I can't wait to hear
how Travis Kelsey responds to this.
I was going to say, has anyone reached out to Travis?
Because I'm guessing debating
this is not on his highest
list of priorities. The amount of times
that Travis Kelsey has had to say like,
what?
What? You know what I mean? Oh yeah. Hey, what? Yeah. Oh God. What?
You know what I mean?
Oh yeah.
Hey, Aaron called you Mr. Pfizer.
Okay.
Just, and Travis was like,
Aaron Rogers?
Yeah.
If you don't remember,
he did not get, famously,
did not get vaxxed,
got COVID.
I think the president even called him out. Like the whole world.
SNL.
Pretty much attacked.
They said that he's going to kill everybody.
So now that you're on there, see how he, you're a natural.
And then you add in some other stuff.
Yeah.
And then what's going on?
Yeah, you're kind of in a whirlwind right now.
And Travis goes, you know, I'm just going to laugh it off.
I'll address it one time and then we'll move on.
And Aaron was like, vaccine war.
Slow down, homie.
Oh, okay.
You want to have a war?
He doesn't know that Aaron has actually been in this war for a few years.
Five-star general.
Yeah, he has earned it.
Decorated.
Travis just got dropped into it.
I was asked if I wanted to do a commercial.
Yeah.
I was told it was good.
Sure.
That was a good thing.
Let's pivot away from Mr. Pfizer and a future debate with Anthony Fauci,
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Aaron Rodgers, and Travis Kelsey.
Let's talk to a man who's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer,
already in the ring of honor for the Houston Texans,
a man who was on CBS's pregame show this past weekend,
and I believe this weekend coming up, and he swore on our program last year.
That's right.
Last week. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J last year. That's right. Last week.
Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Wyatt.
Hey, J.J.!
No more swearing.
No more swearing.
I would like a front seat and some popcorn to that debate.
That'd be great.
Dude, they're just talking about me potentially.
I am not the right person to be in there,
but I would like to be in the room where it happens.
I would like to see the interactions.
If they cut to a commercial break, who's mad at who?
You son of a... You know, that whole thing.
I want to see it all.
What a moment that would be.
Let's start diving in.
What's the shirt today?
Every day you come on here, you have an incredible shirt.
What's the Wonka bar?
What's the Wonka bar, JJ?
Nice.
Oh, come on.
A little Willy Wonka.
Faka Factory or Oompa Loompa is the whole deal.
Come on.
Oh, Wonka.
How much for a golden goose?
Yeah, I know know the lazy ass
grandpa no work ethic son of a bitch yeah he's just profiting off his grandkid out of bed
popped up here we go i gotta go this entire time he got us some real food but instead
we're doing this yeah i know what you're talking about i didn't know that was just for that
is that a medium right there pal that's that you got that as a kid yeah so i got a bunch
of these shirts i was like i'm gonna start wearing them and they are far too small hold on let's see
i think you probably look good let's go you look really jock whenever you stood up oh still got it
still got it ah still preparing for a comeback maybe Let's talk about the Watts that are in the NFL. Your brother TJ is on track for like 27 and a half sacks or something like that. Already at eight. Had two this past weekend. One of them being a game winner. We have the film. We have the plays that you can kind of talk over but when you're watching your brother
right now what is the sense of pride that you have knowing that he's seemingly unstoppable on
a football field right now it's pretty incredible man it's so much fun to watch and just knowing how
hard he works knowing how hard it is to play at this level um this one right here was the best
because i to end the game on fourth and seven against your division rival with a sack
through a double team, go ahead, bring the chipper, have the tackle, no problem, finish it.
And then why not just go ahead and just rip your helmet off, scream to the crowd,
have the entire city of Pittsburgh in your hand. I mean, what a moment.
He's really doing it. He's going to break the record, huh? This is it. He's going to go get it.
All he needed was a little incentive from you, I guess.
I mean, apparently, that's just the thing he needed,
just a little Pat McAfee motivation.
I don't know if it's us or the $500,000 not going to your charity,
but definitely going to the Pittsburgh Children's Hospital
if he breaks the sack record,
or if it's his tag team partner on the other side.
Heisman, also phenomenal.
These two dudes are wrecking
games out there for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, I think you have to give a ton of credit
to Alex Highsmith on the other side. I mean, he just got paid this offseason. TJ gets paid a
couple years ago. Here's Alex right around the edge, strip sack. TJ picks it up. I feel like
we have this clip every single week. Like, I come and I'm talking to Connor. I'm like,
wow, what kind of clips do you want? I'm like, well, let's do that Highsmith fumble. TJ
picks it up every single week.
I mean, think about this team and the
Steelers and where they are right now. Obviously, we all
know the offensive struggles. Alex
Highsmith and TJ Watt, if they don't have
those two, what does that record
look like this year? It
is a completely different team
and these two are at the forefront of it. It is a lot
of fun to watch as an edge rusher myself and an older brother.
Yeah, I would assume it's a great time watching the success
that they're having against every single offensive line, every scheme.
They're coming to chip him.
He splits it.
He wins the game.
Take the helmet off, 15-yard penalty.
Who cares?
You know what I mean?
You absolutely did it.
But on the offensive side, they have some real issues over there in Pittsburgh,
and I know you're following this closely.
Normally, here we go, Steelers. Here we go. Here we go, Steelers. Here we go. That's a chant
everywhere. PNC Park, when the Pirates are playing, that's going to get chanted. Whenever
you're at PPG Paints Arena and you're taking a piss in the bathroom watching the Pittsburgh
Penguins, that's going to get chanted. You go down to Kennywood, you're at the Potato Patch,
you're doing your entire thing, that's going to get chanted. You go down to Kennywood, you're at the Potato Patch, you're doing your entire thing, that's going to get chanted.
It is no longer that chant, though.
It is a completely different chant, JJ.
Last night at the Pittsburgh Penguins opener
against the Chicago Blackhawks,
instead of the Here We Go Steelers chant,
this is now the chant that is being rang around Pittsburgh. How does TJ Highsmith and the boys on the defense keep that all out while the entire
city of Pittsburgh is calling for the offense to look vastly different? If you were in that
situation, how would you handle that whole thing, JJ?
Well, first, I wasn't going to bring up the Pens game.
I know you're a Pens fan,
so I didn't want to bring up the game last night.
I was tuned into it.
Second, I'd love to look into the mindset
of the guys on the ice hearing somebody chant,
fire Canada, when they have no idea what that is.
I'm from Canada.
They were like, oh, hey, oh, hey, oh, hey.
Yeah, we had fires up there, hey, oh, hey, oh, hey. Yeah, we had fires up there.
Yeah.
Oh, hey.
Oh.
Somebody had to tell
a couple of the Russians.
Yeah, right.
Are they talking about
where Bedard's from Canada?
No, no.
Offense coordinator, Steelers.
Oh, that guy's hated.
Everybody couldn't
imagine the surprise.
I mean, it's just gotten
to a point up there
where it's pretty wild
and it's crazy that obviously even after a win against your division rival,
going into a bye week, top of the division,
you still have that going on in this city.
And I think that just speaks to the frustration of everybody there with the
offense. So you ask, what would I do in that locker room?
I mean, as a defensive player,
you do what you can to go out there and win games.
And that's truthfully what they've done.
Highsmith has a pick six. TJ has a touchdown.
You go get strip sacks.
You go do anything humanly possible.
You have Joey Porter Jr. get an interception in the end zone.
You know, anything you can possibly do to go out there and win that game.
And then you just hope they find that rhythm at some point.
But, I mean, the last – the play to pickings was awesome.
I mean, that's obviously what you're looking for.
You're hoping for more of that, and you're hoping for some of those big plays to hit.
But right now, all you can do is just go out there and play damn good defense.
Go ahead, AJ.
JJ, if you're on a team, say,
where your defense is outperforming the offense,
and you look around the league, it's happening at certain places.
I know Jai Alexander was not throwing any shade at his offense,
but just saying defensively, it's our job to score points
and to stop them, obviously.
We have a young offense trying to get in the group. How do you find a way, I guess, if you're
a defense as a whole to not resent an offense like that? If it's week after week and you feel
like they're not consistently scoring, how do you kind of keep the team together?
Yeah, you know, I was kind of having this conversation last week because after the
Houston game, the Steelers obviously were having, but both sides of the ball were not good.
So that's almost better because then neither side can be resentful of the other.
It's kind of, hey, we all got to figure it out.
When it's very clearly one side week after week after week, it does get difficult.
But, I mean, what are you going to do?
Like there's nothing you can do.
You're a professional.
You go out there.
You do your job.
Some teams have quit.
JJ, we've seen it before where some defenses have quit.
I think Chicago Bears a couple years back.
It was like week 11, week 12.
You just saw an absolute fed up.
There's nothing we do matters almost.
That's almost human nature.
You've just got to not do that.
But honestly, one of the things you can do, they're on their bye week this week.
It is the perfect time for self-scout.
You have your defensive guys. You have your defensive coaches watch that offensive film,
and you say, hey, what are our weaknesses?
Where can we get better?
Are we tipping plays?
Are there plays that we're leaving on the table?
What gaps are weak that we should be attacking?
This is that time during this week that those defensive coaches have a chance to actually
go and watch that offensive tape and give some of that feedback to the offensive guys,
whereas the rest of the year you don't have time to do that.
So if there's big things that are going to happen, if there's scheme changes,
whatever it may be, this is the week to do it with the bye week.
7-2 after the bye last year and went on, obviously, a magical run.
They're assuming they're going to be able to do the same thing.
I don't know if Pittsburgh believes that,
especially as they continue to chant the fire of the offensive coordinator
in every venue in Pittsburgh.
They told me down there at the dueling piano bar
on the south side that they actually sang
fire and then the crowd panned it.
Two hours straight.
Didn't play any other song.
We were doing it on church on Saturdays too
and Sunday mornings before the game.
That's what I heard.
Fire.
We lift
our hearts up to the Pittsburgh
offense.
Fire
Canada.
That's Pittsburgh, though.
It is.
Oh, man, a priest walking out.
Everybody bow their heads.
Today, we pray to our Lord and Savior to do one thing and one thing alone. Oh, man, a priest walking out. Everybody bow their heads.
Today, we pray to our Lord and Savior to do one thing and one thing alone.
Fire.
Canada.
And then they start boozing on the wine.
What? And then they wake up the next day and realize Tomlin's a coach.
And Tomlin's never going to do that in the middle of the season, but by
week, maybe they'll get better. Connor has a question for you.
I'm interested. I'm sorry. One second.
I'm actually interested in your guys' thoughts on this, because this
is something that I've heard about a lot. Hey, ask Diggs first.
Real thoughts, though. Diggs is going to do a little
fake thoughts here if you ask a real question. Just want
to let you know that. All right.
Diggs, real thoughts, please. I mean, don't
give me any of that bullshit.
When a situation like this happens, you see an entire stadium,
not even in the same sport, chanting about this guy wanting him fired.
Is that something where it's like, hey, makes a lot of money.
He's the coach of a team.
You know what comes along with it, whether it's a player or a coach.
Is that like, hey, you just got to live with it and deal with it?
Or does it get to the point where you're like, oh, man.
Start to feel bad for Canada?
Or you think anybody's starting to feel bad for Canada at this point?
That's an interesting question.
No, absolutely not.
I mean, this is what the NFL is.
Like, you get paid.
He gets paid to be good at his job.
He's never once been good at it.
Not once.
No.
Not one time.
Okay?
There hasn't been one game where.
Preseason, right?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah. So good. Preseason, right? Yeah, he was so good.
Preseason, they're unbelievable.
We watched it.
We've seen it.
You've seen it.
I did see it.
Yeah, they were playing the most base coverages you could ever imagine playing.
And yeah, his high school offense is really good against just base cover three,
maybe some mix in some cover two there.
Zoe, the answer's no, JJ.
Nobody cares.
And they're going to start chanting that louder,
especially after a bye week if the same thing happens
two weeks from now. Boy, it's going to get even
louder. Guess what? You're down at the steel mills and
you're just throwing hot molten steel
all over everybody and killing people
and stuff like that. You're going to get fired, okay?
You can't show up to your job
every day and be bad and keep it.
That ain't how it goes. Not everyone knows that.
Well, there's a lot of situations
that we've certainly seen.
People bad at their jobs just assume they're going to keep their jobs for the rest of their life because they had a job.
Makes sense.
Very good.
Hey, congrats to them having that mindset.
True.
No fear at all.
Yeah, that's kind of sweet.
No fear at all that they're going to lose a job.
That must be so sweet.
Just go to bed.
Who cares?
What did you do today?
Nothing.
Wake up.
What are you going to do?
Nothing.
That's Matt Canada.
And then he shows up wearing his stupid hat again.
He's like, oh, here we go. again all right let's move on from canada and thank you for adding fuel to the canada fire that has
already started uh connor has a question for you jj yeah jj team that's actually close to the
country canada the detroit lions they do not have a problem on offense they definitely don't have a
problem on defense uh what are you seeing out of hutch in that d line and you know that team as a
whole just because you know we all expected the lions to be good but now that we're five weeks defense. What are you seeing out of Hutch in that D-line and that team as a whole? Just because
we all expected the Lions to be good, but now that we're five weeks into it and they really
are one of the best teams in the NFL, how are you feeling about them right now?
Yeah, they have a very, very strong handle on that NFC North right now. And I think Aiden
Hutchinson is playing extremely well. He's a playmaker. I mean, has there been a better fit
in terms of a draft pick and Aiden Hutchinson going to the Detroit Lions?
Obviously, the Jaguars passing on him.
But the guy can make plays.
Not only can he make sacks on the edge,
but I feel like he has, like, what, four or five interceptions this year already?
Here, just go ahead.
Snag it with one hand.
Now watch this.
Smoked.
Absolutely smoked in the thigh.
I mean, that is a Charlie horse of epic proportions.
And then I'm watching the replay, and I see, like, this still shot.
I mean, geez, dude.
Look at the way that he's playing.
Hold on.
We have a still shot, though.
We do have a still shot.
Look at that thing.
Look at this.
He's fine, and he's perfectly fine.
He got up and jogged, felt it a little bit,
but he's like, I just got a sweet pick, though.
Let's not ruin this moment.
I'm going to dance. And then he ended up playing. It's like, I just got a sweet pick, though. Let's not ruin this moment. I'm going to dance.
And then he ended up playing. It's like, great recovery.
We've seen his off days. We've done
a day with him. He does a lot of prehab,
rehab, takes care of his body.
He's exploded on the scene. But to your
point, everybody talks about his work ethic
and his engine and his battery and how he's
always going. He has some
real sneaky picks. Last year,
I think his first one, he was dropping into coverage.
It was a screen that he picked off, and then he took it to the house.
That one, one-handed snag, reading the tackle, setting him up and doing it.
The guy's a playmaker all over the place.
What a match for them in Detroit, JJ.
Yeah, I mean, I love it.
I love watching him play because he does all sorts of things.
He was a sack later in the game.
He had a spin move, a nice spin.
He can do everything, and he can move.
I can't get that picture out of my head of his leg looking like that.
Like, any – people don't understand, like, in the NFL.
Like, you are waking up the next day and trying to get ready for another game this week.
You do that to somebody on the sidewalk.
They're down for months.
Look at that thing.
Yeah, and also you wake up the next day, you have a little
pain, and you go, what was that from?
Then you see the film, and it was like,
oh, there it is. My knee is
sideways. I was feeling a little
stretched, even
because you're quad, probably. I feel
a little strain in here.
Did you ever have one, Pat?
Did you ever take a
crazy, crazy hit? A guy hit me in my one leg.
It was against Oakland.
It was a 100-percenter.
We were supposed to score a touchdown.
We were supposed to run it within the five-yard line,
and we ran it at the 35.
So needed some points.
It was on Christmas Eve.
I was supposed to do it.
Had a magic trick in my hand warmer for when I scored a touchdown with this one.
I mean, I was.
You know what I mean?
This one was wide. This one was wide open. You know, snap to the holder. Holder gets up,
runs, does his thing. Vinatieri was supposed to distract Cuzz to go right.
It was supposed to be done inside the five. We were way too far back to do it. As it was getting
cold out there, I thought Chuck was sending me on a suicide mission, to be completely honest.
Nobody really knew.
We were supposed to be on the other hash, too, because the guard that would have had to pull was a defensive guy.
Shout out Zach Kerr.
Whenever I call the play in there, Zach Kerr goes, we're on the wrong side.
I'm supposed to.
And I go, yeah, yeah, that's what we're doing here, Zach.
He goes, good luck, basically, is what Zach Kerr tells me.
Still in the NFL.
And I get up, and I start running, and Darren Bates is the
linebacker, and he did not
bite at all on Vinatieri.
He met me at that hole.
So I gave him a...
A little stick. What was your strategy?
What was your strategy? I should have jumped over him.
I did a spin move instead,
and he hit my one leg into my
other leg so hard.
I end up at the bottom of a pile.
My arm hits the ground.
Ball comes out.
Now there's a scrum on top of me.
Ref says, it doesn't matter.
It was fourth down.
Like, ref's talking shit to me pretty much.
I'm saying my arm was down.
I don't want to fumble on my stat sheet.
You know, I was down there as I'm getting killed.
Next day, I get up.
I have a bruise on this leg right here.
And I'm like, what the hell happened to my leg?
And then I watched replay back.
He hit me so hard that my one knee bruised my other leg.
So it was at that moment where I was pretty thankful that I don't run the ball ever.
And I realized I'm nowhere near tough enough.
So yes, it has happened to me.
How about you, JJ?
Did you wake up the next day after your nose was bleeding and be like, wow, what happened to my face?
Did that happen to you?
Yeah, it happened
a lot. It happened a whole lot.
I got to send a picture to Connor.
I got a bruise that was very bad. It was
Fred Taylor. I was coming
right off the edge
and it was a free shot
on the quarterback, except for it was
Fred Taylor standing back there.
I don't know why I keep saying Fred Taylor.
I don't know if it was Fred Taylor.
Anyways, the running back was standing there, and I had a decision to make.
I could either go and try and bat the ball because I saw him start to throw it,
or I could try and run the running back over and get the sack.
And I was like, make the sacrifice to the team.
Put your hands up in the air. And I mean, when I tell you he hit me in the thigh board as hard as you could hit somebody,
folded me in half thigh board as hard as you could hit somebody. Folded me in half, straight
to the ground, and my entire thigh
was black and blue for the next, like, two
weeks straight. Did you feel soft, or what'd you
do? Just get a twirl, get back out there?
It's one of those
things, kind of. I'm sure, like, Aiden felt that.
Oh, my God! Holy hell.
First of all, I'm going to see your balls
here. So happy that that
that's all right there. That is a full Thank you for doing that. First of all, look at going to see your balls here. So happy that that's all right there.
That is a full.
Tucked him in.
Thank you for doing that.
First of all, look at the left quad.
Yeah, what the hell?
Jeez Louise.
Good.
That's Bruce.
You got some good looking legs.
That was painful, man.
That was painful.
It was nothing.
I didn't know anything about it really.
I mean, I obviously knew I took the hit, but I played the rest of the game.
And it's kind of one of those things.
You keep the adrenaline going, you keep the blood flowing, it's fine.
And then you wake up the next morning, and you go to take a step out of bed,
and you're like, did I stand on a train track?
What the hell?
It was brutal, too.
You shave your legs?
No.
I'm blonde.
Can you put that back up?
It looks like you shave your legs.
Oh, blonde.
You shave those quads?
Yeah, you definitely shaved the left leg.
You want to shave that quad?
Yeah.
I didn't shave it.
I didn't shave it.
I didn't shave it.
This is the second time my legs have been live.
Yeah, a lot of legs.
I don't shave my legs.
Hey, it's okay if you do.
Hey, listen.
That's cool.
It's all right if you do because it makes your legs look bigger and stronger and faster like that.
We also pulled up my play where I got tackled.
If it does, I will.
Yeah, shave the arms too. People shave the arms
as well. But we got a chance to pull up
the play. I thought I was out there. You saw it.
It was a good spin. I
literally, I set him up. AJ, wait till you
I mean, it's loading right now in the back. Obviously, our
internet is fantastic. But I thought I
had this guy. I didn't have a bruise that you just said.
I can't wait for this. JJ, I mean, this
was Christmas Eve, pal. This was the night we'll be remembered for. What was the magic a bruise that you just had. Oh, I can't wait for this. JJ. I mean, this was Christmas Eve, pal.
This was the night we'll be remembered for good. What was the magic trick?
What were you going to do?
I was going to make a...
So what we saw Lou Holtz do,
what we saw Lou Holtz do with actual Lou Holtz,
I mean, that is what it was going to be.
I was going to pull a handkerchief out,
and I was going to go right to the camera,
and I was going to make it disappear.
And then the ref was going to throw a flag, and I was going to grab that, and I was going to go right to the camera and I was going to make it disappear.
And then the ref was going to throw a flag and I was going to grab that
and I was going to start playing it.
Anyways, here is the play
that was supposed to be a touchdown.
Look at that.
Oh, you had it.
Oh!
My arm was down, though.
It was.
When the ball came out.
You're dead?
Yeah, I mean.
That's a good spin, though, honestly.
Thank you.
I mean, it's just natural reaction.
Who knows if I actually practice running the ball what I'm going to come up with.
But right there, I should have jumped over top of him right there.
I don't know.
You might have had to get to the left.
Well, that's Zach Curry actually blocking incredibly well.
The guy that was very much worried.
He's all the way up there.
There's a couple guys on the ground there.
Yeah.
I mean, Darren Bates is cutting off the gap to the left, Darius.
I don't know.
Oh, it's so easy with air conditioning and clickers
Everybody's got the answers
Blame it on the baseball field Pat
Just blame it on the fact that you're playing on the baseball field
Hey
This hurts right here
Left arm
I mean I was down though
No fumble
Absolute crop that they even thought
And you weren't used to taking hits like that.
So, like, for us, like, you take them every week or whatever.
But, I mean, that's a first-timer there.
That had to feel good the next couple days.
Yeah, yeah, four or five days.
Anytime I made a tackle, four or five days.
Literally the whole this area right here.
I don't know how you guys dealt with it.
Yeah, it just felt like something shot right down my spinal cord every single time.
And you guys just – thank you guys for your service.
And me too, obviously.
What's that?
Jalen Hurts had one last week.
Was it against the Rams?
Yeah, that was a hyper against,
it was more similar to the Hutchport.
That was crazy.
He got hit low.
Okay, let's talk about this.
Now that we're talking about bodies and everything,
the NFL is going to go to 18 games,
we assume at some point,
because they're going to see the amount of money
that another week of games will bring.
But if they add another bye week, that's another two weeks of games that they can sell
with more prime time we assume that's where we're headed roger goodell this past weekend was in
london talking to a man named neil reynolds this is what he said about the london and england
experiment and what it could look like in the future with the nfl the jaguars are playing
consecutive games over here and staying over here
and part of that is just to see how would teams react to that how would you know is it a is it a
competitive disadvantage or advantage one way or the other we'll learn something from that that
will help us determine can we play more games could a team actually play over here? So if somebody came over here to play against a London franchise,
and let's say there was more than one team over here,
they would probably stay for a few weeks.
So this will help us understand.
All right, my ears just pricked up.
Did you say three teams?
Just said more than one team.
Three.
More than one London team.
Oh, three.
You did?
All right, I'm just checking.
MJD, do you think that if? If, yeah, true. You did? All right, I'm just checking. MJD, do you think that if?
If, yeah, true.
Yep.
You should always put that if in.
Okay, so JJ,
obviously a lot has been made
of these England games
because they've been
a smashing success.
Now the Toy Story games
are happening.
The 9.30 a.m. games
are happening.
There's another game over there.
Jacksonville has played
the most games over there
because they assumed
at some point Jacksonville
would make home over there,
especially with the Khan family connection to premier soccer and
everything like that.
What are your thoughts on the NFL in England and potentially having its own division over
there, JJ?
I mean, I think it's fascinating just purely from a logistical standpoint.
I think it's certainly headed that way at some point.
I just don't know how they're possibly going to make it work logistically.
But I do know two things to say about that.
Because, first of all, I'm sitting there and I'm, let's say you're the Bills.
You're like, don't experiment against me, man.
Like, don't, like, give the other team the advantage against our team.
Like, yes, I understand you have to, like, try it.
But maybe not against us who are trying to have a great year.
Or, like, obviously for the Jags, like, Yeah, let's do it. We'll get the advantage. But now on the flip side and the Bills defense, having been a part of international games,
having had these conversations on how do you do it best? When do you leave? When do you do all these things?
At least when I was last year, when I was in the league and having these conversations,
the statistics and the data showed that the team that left the latest won the game the majority of
the time so people were upset about them leaving on friday to play on sunday but at least when i
was there the reality of the situation was that the team that left the latest won so i mean didn't
work out for them clearly um and i know they don't want to use it as an excuse but it also probably
doesn't feel too good to be sitting there hearing like yeah we're, we're going to just have some fun and experiment with some things.
We're trying to see how big of an advantage it is for guys to be acclimated to the time
because 9.30 a.m., that's early, bro.
That is an early time, especially for the Buffalo Bills.
You only have 36 hours to get acclimated to the new time zone to play at 9.30 a.m.
So you're going to start slow.
You would assume most teams that get over there
and don't get fully transitioned into their time frame.
But, yeah, you're right.
Buffalo Bills are like,
we experiment against like, I don't know,
some trash-ass team.
Patriots.
If you're trying to think about this logistically,
this is a fascinating conversation.
How would you make it work?
Are you going to put a whole division over there, or are're going to put one or two teams and then the team's
going to play two weeks back to back if you play on the london team do you have to have a house in
london and a house in america like now you're now your family like your kids going to school like
there's a million questions that are just fascinating well here's another one taxes am i
getting taxed because if they have a home base in America, and also they're...
So I'm getting taxed by London, because I'm working over there.
England. London. England.
Probably something else.
And then also the home base, wherever the home team is.
There's like all those little things to be decided.
But I think we all know that the inevitability of this all
is that there's going to be a few teams over there
as soon as technology makes it possible to fly over there quicker.'m excited for them to figure it out though because i think europe
getting involved in football is good because if we get that hooligans oh yeah you know oh yeah
vibe in a football game we got it man we got it haven't you just turn on twitter any sunday there's
fans just throwing haymakers every week oh you're right you're right we're talking about like
singing songs getting after it,
like the Burnley fans.
Like the Burnley fans.
How are we?
Do we stink?
Are we good?
We can move on to the next topic.
Oh!
Religions!
Kelsey boys!
We started out 1-0.
We went up 1-0, and it was incredible and awesome.
We were playing good.
And then Raheem Sterling just had a phenomenal
game on the left wing. That'll happen.
Put it to us. We lost 4-1.
We're in the international break now, but we
have a big game against Brentford coming up
next week, Saturday.
Any of your guys play international?
Yeah, we got guys
all over the place. We got a guy
in Norway, we got a Moroccan, we got a bunch of
good guys.
When are we going to win again?
We winning again soon?
Whenever we get back, we think?
We got a good chance to get to win?
Next week, Saturday, is what we're looking at, man.
I'm considering flying over just for the game and flying back.
I have an itch.
I got an itch to get out there, man.
I want to get to it.
Yeah, they need you, too. Why don't you bust your nose over there?
Why don't you get a little blood?
Why don't you show them that thigh?
Why don't you lift your pants? Why don't you bruise yourself?
We go over there and let them know what it could be like.
So we lose to Chelsea, obviously.
We're down there ranked, oh no,
bottom three is where we need not be, right?
Correct. We need to get out of there.
Oh no!
Come on, Burnley. Will you start climbing
the ladder? It's a long season, boys.
You guys should get messy. Get messy.
Talk to Ryan Reynolds.
He knows how to do it.
Yeah.
Rexham.
See, I don't think Rexham's at this level.
I don't think.
I think they're still.
Yeah, they're below.
I believe.
Way below.
They're a couple below.
Why don't you get messy?
Get messy.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I put in a call.
Still waiting to hear back.
Good, AJ.
JJ, say you were still playing, you were a free agent,
and there was, say, a division in London.
How seriously would you look at that team to go sign with them
and go play over there?
I mean, the logistics of it are fascinating.
I don't know how that would all work, but I do think that the expansion of it,
I do think that the fan base is over there. I think it's really exciting. I think it's a great
time. I mean, I obviously invested in an English football club. I love it over there. I love London.
I love all of it. So I really do think it would be fun. I think it would be great. I just talk
about your body recovering and figuring out how to make all that work. I mean, it would be so damn difficult from that standpoint.
But you would also be like kind of a pioneer on starting something new over there.
And I mean, yeah, could I absolutely see that there's an entire division over there someday?
Or, I mean, way, way, way down the line, you literally have the American and the European division or something like that.
It could be really cool.
I think it could be sweet.
It's going to take the right people, though.
Like, they're going to have to get star power over there.
And you know how the NHL does the expansion draft.
The NHL makes the new teams good immediately
because they want fans to kind of hop on board and get there.
It's been a while, what, since the Texans?
Is that the last expansion team the NFL has done, I think?
Yeah, it was.
The Texans in 2001, I believe.
You know what was fascinating? I was watching that Pens game last night, and it was like 10 Texans in 2001, I believe. You know what was fascinating?
I was watching that Pens game last night, and it was like 10.30 p.m.,
and they were going into the third period.
So they're playing the Blackhawks in Pittsburgh.
Today, the Blackhawks are in Boston playing the Bruins.
That schedule is wild.
That game didn't finish until like 11 o'clock last night.
They now have to, as you know, pack up, eat everything,
get on a plane, fly, land,
drive to a hotel, and now they're already
going to be on the ice again here in a couple hours.
That's pretty wild. Well, and they have a morning
skate too normally whenever they get to a place.
And then they have their afternoon nap. I guess
in the NHL world, from what I understand,
this afternoon nap thing,
like we could be
mockable, you know, because it's like babies take
naps like that is not what adults do it's like i guess the nhl afternoon nap is like one of the
most vital things in the entire nhl guys have like a two and a half hour slot where it's like
nobody call this particular guy for two and a half hours he's a napper for three hours he's a 90
minute napper so we need to do things like That is how they survive. The NBA as well.
The NBA runs a very limited sleep.
I have no idea how they figure it out.
But these boys are going to play.
That's what Rich Paul told us.
Yeah, that's right.
It's more the teams looking out for the players
as opposed to the players saying,
we don't want to play is what Rich told us yesterday.
Happy we played football.
I'm happy I played a position and never got hit.
On the flip side of that.
Speaking of injuries and stuff, Tone Diggs has a question for you, JJ.
Yeah, JJ, a guy that you played with, Deshaun Watson,
he was cleared by doctors but not cleared by himself.
How does that work?
And, like, is there any added motivation when you get paid $230 million
guaranteed to play when you're cleared by doctors but not yourself?
Answer the question, JJ.
I don't know the full details of the situation, obviously,
but if that's how it is put, that cleared by doctors and not cleared by yourself,
sometimes it's the other way around
sometimes you're cleared by yourself
and not by the doctors
most times I feel like that's kind of the most
of the conversation that's why
what's going on in Cleveland is such a big convo
because it's like
normally the doctors are pretty hesitant too
nowadays because of everything that had happened
I think in the NFL
a little bit more hesitant to clear people now
because they don't want to have the narrative of like,
we only care about the teams, you know, to hell with these players.
So it's like for the team to announce that he's cleared from our doctors
and then him saying, I don't feel right.
It's interesting.
There's got to be something.
There's got to be something more going on there
where he's just not capable of doing what he needs to do
or he's not like physically, yes, you're not going to hurt yourself more're not maybe you're still not able to do what you want to do i don't
know i don't know but yeah i know uh i think there's probably a lot of times where i should
not have been cleared for most likely you're a practice guy you're a big practice guy every day
you're doing practice full speed every uh yeah that was probably to my detriment probably to
my detriment uh i thought it was extremely important.
I wanted to be in full pads and go out there and play.
I'm a big believer in you have to play football to be better at football.
And, yeah, it probably was not the smartest take.
AQ, you agree with JJ?
That's what you did as well?
I looked forward later in my career to Wednesdays off
and then Thursday, Friday, no pads.
But I did – I agree with him. I didn't need to be out there to see it. If I was in spiders and could kind of
get through it mentally, I was okay. I've never, did you see this offensive lineman flop the other
night, JJ? Did you see this thing? I have, I've seen the reactions from you guys. I hadn't actually
seen the play. Good news. We got it. Here it is. Fifties. Here you're looking at.
Here it is, 50s, who you're looking at.
Goal!
That's offensive lineman now, JJ. AQ would never.
AQ would never.
They don't make them like they used to.
Hey, let's talk about Max Crosby.
We've talked about a couple different pass rushers.
He is game wrecker.
Supposed to have Chandler Jones on the other side.
Obviously, that is not the case this year.
But what he's been able to do, I think, is not getting chatted about enough
because the Raiders are, what, 2-3 or whatever?
Yes.
They were staring down being this team that's throwaway.
He's unbelievable at what he does.
Yeah, Max is a phenomenal player.
And I think that the way that he flies around, the way that he plays the game, how hard he goes, the way he plays the run.
I mean, he just terrorizes people in the run and the pass.
And like you said, he's kind of doing it not by himself, but I mean, he is a mass majority
of the production of that defense. And you know, like if you're going into a game against the
Raiders, you have to stop one guy first. And yet he still goes out there and he plays great football.
So I'm a big fan of the way he plays the game, big fan of the energy he plays it with. And you
can't play with a guy like that and not want to play 100 miles an hour
yourself because you're like look at this guy he's like i mean his nickname is the condor i believe
and that's that's pretty badass nickname yeah it's a sick nickname especially in a time where it's
tough to find a new nickname that's sick the condor is certainly a good one and if you even
think about him the person like he's sober right yeah publicly sober he's in vegas yeah you know
what i mean like that is you think about the mental discipline that he's had to develop through his life
and the state that he's in and the way he's playing football.
And you would think that maybe some people would turn soft.
He's chirping.
He's talking shit.
He's doing his whole thing.
I remember you being mic'd up.
You're a big-time chirper.
I don't think that gets talked about much.
Time to time.
Time to time.
I know.
I heard that one said, shouldn't have picked on J.J. Wong.
You know what the one might top thing?
Then there's the Cardinals.
Maybe we're just better.
Yeah.
Maybe we're just better.
Sorry.
Yeah, you were a big talker whenever that switch would go on, wouldn't it?
Yeah, I mean, you get that adrenaline flowing.
You start to feel pretty good.
You get in the zone.
I mean mean the best
one that i had was definitely uh there was a game against the saints and i had a i had a enjoyable
day that day and i was letting them have it a little bit they they had a backup tackle in and
they left them one-on-one and so i just kept looking at the sidelines after every big play
i would make and i was just like you guys would give him some help. I was sort of begging them, like, please give him some help.
Delaney Walker was another guy that I had a bunch of good battles with.
He was in Tennessee for a very long time.
And he would always be in charge of chipping me on the edges.
And so we would just have full-blown conversations at the line of scrimmage.
Like we would line up and I'd be like, oh, son of a bitch.
And he'd be like, yep, I'm right here.
I'm right here.
So I'd try and move my alignment outside.
I'd try and move my alignment inside.
And he would just move wherever I moved.
And he was a good chipper.
Like, some guys don't chip that well.
I mean, that Ravens one, obviously, on TJ kind of whiffed there.
Delaney Walker didn't whiff.
He gave some serious shots right in the rib cage.
So I respect that.
I respect the hell out of him, and he made my job harder for sure.
Delaney Walker, AFC South legend, dude.
He got in a fight with Ewol, I think
in a couple of our games. Yeah, he's
awesome. Delaney Walker was awesome
to watch play. Is he a big boat guy? Yeah.
He has a cigarette boat.
He's got big boats down there. Yeah, living
down there. He was on the show talking about it. I think he's with
Bussin now. I think he's doing some stuff with Bussin. Great
personality. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, JJ,
after the Niners thoroughly beat the
piss out of the Cowboys on Sunday night,
us and kind of everyone else has
just crowned them champions pretty
much. Obviously, everyone's been talking about
the offense and Brock Purdy and rightfully so.
They have so many weapons, but on the defensive
side, it seems like there's only a handful
of guys that kind of get all the chatter, but they
are unbelievable on the D-line. Theirbackers are insane so is their secondary uh a how fun would
it be to play on that defense and b do you think there's any truth to like oh hey they might be
peaking too early and they're going to be in trouble down the road they're a damn good football
team man i don't know about peaking too early. They're just so good, and they seem to have the best chemistry,
and they seem to have the guys that kind of understand it
and just have fun with it while also just dominating everybody they play.
I mean, you talk about guys on that defense.
I think it's crazy how many players are in that team from, you know,
Trent Williams, George Kittle, Purdy.
I mean, all these names, Bosa.
And I think people are starting to come around on it,
but Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw are playing as good as any linebackers in the league.
I mean, maybe as good as any middle linebackers since a couple of 49ers guys
in Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman.
I mean, there is just something about middle linebacker wearing that 49ers uniform,
and these two fit that perfectly.
I mean, Fred Warner flies all over the field.
He's one of the smartest players in the league.
He always knows what's going on, and then he just goes.
This play is one of my favorite plays.
It's been shown a lot this week.
Breaks up the mesh concept, forces the back to pull the ball down,
and then goes and gets the sack.
I mean, the mental aspect of that play and the physical skills
and ability
to be able to make it all happen
is unbelievable.
So he covered two guys there pretty much, right?
He covered two guys, disrupted both of those.
And the quarterback.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Run that play one more time.
It's incredible.
He covers both crosses.
He's covering both those guys right now, pretty much.
Jack's supposed to just drop that off right now to them. Yep. instead of both of them splits him then he doesn't run at dac right away
he kind of stays on the line of scrimmage just kind of like hang on hang on now he puts his
hands up forces him to pull the ball down and oh yeah i might as well just make the sack i'm here
anyway like what a damn play man and he's one of the nicest guys too. I mean, literally after the game,
we'll come up and talk like he's,
I just,
I have a lot of respect for Fred Warner.
He does a lot of chirping as well.
I got a chance to watch a play.
I think he's electrifying both during the play and post play.
The conversation out of that game though,
is that Dak stinks.
I think that Niners defense probably gonna make a lot of people stink.
Yeah.
I mean,
like you lose one game and it's against a very very good football team and all of
a sudden i feel like we have this thing now with former players that are analysts that love to just
trash on guys like i don't know if it's clicks or what it is but i mean we're tossing around
terms like garbage like trash like sucks and i'm like you were a player once like you know like
like you don't this game is hard yes like can guys improve and play. Like, you don't – this game is hard.
Yes.
Like, can guys improve and play better?
Yes.
But I don't know where we got off now just throwing so much dirt on top of people
when we were all in those shoes once.
And, yeah, you've had a bad game.
You want to put up a low-light reel of me?
You could make me look like the worst player in NFL history.
I mean, I've been crack-blocked by a receiver and knocked on my ass before.
You put that up, yeah, I look like garbage too.
Like, I don't know.
I just, we can be critical without being just downright ridiculous.
We'll have that low-light reel for JJ next week.
Need to ask a question for you.
JJ, a guy who's definitely not garbage, Jalen Carter in Philly.
We see what this guy can do on the interior D-line.
When you watch him play,
how do you ever block this guy? Dude, it's fun to watch him play, man. I mean, he is big,
he moves extremely well, and he's strong as an ox. I mean, he throws people out of the way.
He understands the position very well. He knows how to play double teams. He knows how to rush
the passer. He has good counter moves. To be as big,
physical, and strong as he is as a rookie, combined with the knowledge and the technical ability of
playing the position he has, man, is it a lot of fun to watch. And it's a position that, you know,
you don't, people don't love, like, it's not like people are cracking on the tape and they can't
wait to watch D Tackle play. Trust me, I know I've been one, but he makes it fun to watch the position and he's just throwing
giant human beings out of the way.
Looks like Philly's got a special one for a long time up there.
Only going to get better too, right?
That's like a matter of fact.
The more reps you have in the NFL, the better you're going to get and the stronger he's
going to somehow get as well.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously he's got now the full-time job. Now,
I always tell people that when I got to the NFL, you don't have classes anymore. You have enough
money to have the proper nutrition, to buy the proper things, to recover, to have the best bed
to sleep in. You know, you got all the right things. So now he's only going to get bigger,
faster, stronger, and he's going to get comfortable playing against NFL offenses.
He's going to learn these cadences and rhythms. He's going to learn little tips and tricks.
He's going to get good, man.
They call him the Rhino over there.
It makes a lot of sense.
Darius has the last question for you here, JJ.
Yeah, I got a question.
We've talked enough football.
Let's go to another great sport.
I'm a one-man show in here when it comes to this sport.
Everyone else hates it.
But I heard that you recently became a fan of F1.
T-T-I-N-E. Relax, relax. That's of F1. D-9.
Relax, relax.
Max, we're stopping one again.
Good question, D-boy.
Are you still watching?
Boom!
That's going better.
Boom!
Are you still watching even with Max dominating?
And if you get a chance, are you going to their race in Vegas next month?
So it's a great question.
Honestly, the domination has made it a little bit less enticing to watch, I have to say.
But then you can also go to the argument, well, Mercedes have been dominating for so many years with Lewis.
But I went to the race in Miami last year.
A, it was unbelievably hot, and B, obviously it being a racetrack,
there's only so many entrances to get in.
You have to, like, walk over the track.
So it was very, very, very crowded and very tough.
And then finally, you can't see anything.
You can stand there, and you can be sitting in the stands.
There's nothing happening. It's the worst.
It sounds amazing. It sounds amazing.
It's a pit pass. Hey, JJ,
we appreciate the hell out of you on this
day. Don't be wasting your time with that.
Wow, what a putt off. They really don't want
to be talked about on this show. Hey, it's tough over here,
JJ. Buddy, I mean, there's just like so
many, like IndyCar
about 10 times better. NASCAR,
it's not even getting crazy. There's some go-kart
tracks down here that are just much better
racing here.
Pinnacle Motorsports.
Yeah.
Pinnacle.
Yeah, right.
All right.
Let me read what they say
on Netflix.
Okay.
We see the cars just...
I don't want to piss off
the people in Indy,
so I will say
Sprint Car is great.
No, that's good.
Sprint Car is good, too.
Sprint Car is good.
You know you're racing.
I grew up in Wisconsin.
They had the dirt track stuff.
I loved it.
Slinger Speedway.
All right.
Shout out Slinger Speedway.
Shout out to them and to you for watching.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Sports 107.
Nailed it.
Absolutely nailed it.
Hey, we're still live, but I mean, I hit that one right on screws there.
That's the reason why I pivoted away from it.
But also, we didn't know F1 talk was coming.
Yeah, what are we doing?
We're having a good Wednesday.
What the hell was that?
The NHL had the puck drop, you know, last night.
The NFL's got a lot of stuff happening right now.
Oh, yeah.
We got J.J. Watt on.
I mean, that's baseball.
You want to see ratings drop.
Talk NHL and F1.
No.
Not the...
Come on, Tony.
Not NHL.
Did we like...
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T.J. T Hey, Paul. I love hockey, man.
I love it.
I love to get on the ice.
I actually just got fitted.
TJ's birthday gift to me this year was a full set of hockey gear.
Skates, everything.
He got skates for my son, too.
It was a pretty badass gift.
Hey, it's TJ's birthday today.
What'd you buy him?
Same thing?
Oh, I should have mentioned that on the show.
We're still on the show, but you're right.
You should have said it on ESPN. I don't know why I thought we're not on the show. We're still on the show, but you're right. You should have said it on ESPN.
I don't know why I thought we're not on the show.
Yeah, come on.
Happy birthday, Trent.
So proud of you, buddy.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, my brother.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, Trent.
Happy birthday, Trent.
No, I got him.
He's very – TJ is very like – he likes very thoughtful, like funny,
but thoughtful Small little gifts
He hasn't got them yet
So I don't want to say what they are
Smart smart
There's a lot of little
A lot of little things
In the sentimental importance
Give him a pool guy
Please
Yeah we need a pool guy
So he's not out there doing everything
Good call back
Good call back
I worry about him
But yeah the skates thing was really cool
So now I go down
There's a bunch of
Arizona Coyotes
Like a bunch of the guys that play a pickup game,
and they invited me out to play a pickup game with them.
They're still a team?
Yeah, I hit the – yeah, they play at Arizona.
Why don't you buy that team?
It's a nice team.
You bought the Burnley team.
Why don't you buy that team?
Probably costs as much as a hobby.
People tell me stuff like that all the time.
Like, I don't know how much money you think I have.
Like, yes, I'm very, very fortunate.
I do not have that kind of money.
What are we talking about? Yeah, you just walk in and claim the team.
They give it to you.
Yeah, that's how it works.
It doesn't cost anything.
Oh, Burnley, I like to win.
Can I just plant my flag?
Yeah.
Bingo.
I'll take it.
I think with the Coyote, that would actually work.
Sure.
Joining us back after getting throttled by Max Verstappen,
ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawks.
Hey.
A.J., you missed some good conversation about hockey.
Did you watch the hockey last night, A.J.? I did watch a good amount of that. I mean, what a heartbreaker for the hockey. Did you watch the hockey last night, AJ?
I did watch a good amount of that.
I mean, what a heartbreaker for the Pens.
They had it the whole way.
Oh, why is everybody bringing this up?
It was brutal.
Are you a Blue Jackets guy?
Not as much right now.
I'm going to call it an Avalanche fan at the moment.
Have been for a few years. So his brother-in-law, Jack Johnson, huge mitts.
Huge.
We're talking about frying pan
mitts. I've never seen something like it.
That's his brother-in-law, so he's pulling for wherever he goes.
He actually got a chance to chug out a Lord Stanley
because Jack Johnson became a Stanley Cup champion.
Is it everything you hoped it would be?
It was pretty amazing,
not going to lie. Jack actually just took a puck
to the face and split his whole other side of his lip
yesterday or two days ago.
So he's doing well.
That is a good thing about hockey players.
They will put their faces in front of these little rubber things
and say, bust out my teeth.
That's what I want to do.
I want to win a game.
You would have been a pro hockey player?
Did you like the ref mic'd up thing?
Have you guys talked about that?
This was a beautiful moment between Kelly Sutherland,
Sidney Crosby,
and the future of the NHL, Connor Bedard,
right before the puck drop on opening night.
Oh, damn it.
I missed it very much.
Connor, welcome to the NHL, man.
Hey, guys.
It's showtime.
Let's have a great game.
Sid didn't say a thing, though.
Nope.
Sid didn't say anything. And Kelly S didn't say anything And Kelly Sutherland
Was waiting until
Connor looked at him too
Connor
Welcome to the NHL
Thank you
Thanks
Let me fix all my
Oh you're dropping a puck
Oh fuck
Alright let's get this thing started
Kid forgot his stick
Going out there to begin with
He's the future
How much do you know about him?
I know a little bit
I mean I know he's he's
obviously an unbelievable player at the junior level but i mean to his credit like tuned in
last night just to watch him play like i want to see what that was like i want to see uh how he
played i saw the whole stick thing i saw the story behind the stick thing which was a whole
another rabbit hole i went down which i went pretty deep in the hockey rabbit hole last night
so that's a thing, the stick thing?
Because I know he had his helmet
was off. Yes, and they let him
and the other rookie, I think, do the pregame
skate without the helmets, but then you sent in another
thing that was pretty sweet about his mom, too.
Yeah, his...
Fuck. His mom...
Yes, his mom with the coach. Yes.
So his mom wanted to move
into a... No, JJ, you pick. the coach. Yes. So his mom wanted to move into it. No, JJ, you pick.
Slow down.
Jesus.
I just react to the words I hear.
Well, we appreciate you being that invested in the conversation
and reacting to everything.
But the way you reacted tells us a little bit more about you
than it tells about us.
Just want to let you know that.
But anyways, here's the coach of the Chicago Blackhawks
talking about an interaction with Conor Bedard's mom.
We were going to move into the same apartment building I was in,
and his mom was like, well, yeah, we don't want to get too far ahead,
and he's got to make the team.
And I kind of looked at her, and I said, I think you can look at her.
That's that hockey mentality, though,
like the most humble group of humans of all time.
It feels like
it's an old school throwback sport you love the sport would you have been a pro if you would have
played stuck with it i assume you would have i mean i like to believe so i mean i truly love
that sport man i started skating when i was three years old and i love that sport i still say like
the puck hit in the back of the net is one of the greatest feelings in all sports and i had so much
fun doing it um but i also at the very same time and now that i'm an adult and i see it all so my parents we had to
stop playing because it's literally too expensive um you have to buy new skates you have to buy new
gear basically every year because you're growing and so when we had to stop i cried and i cried
and i cried um and it was so sad for me but now now that I'm an adult, I feel so terrible that I like was,
I feel like selfish
because I was sitting there crying
and as a parent to see your kid crying
because you can't afford for them
to play a sport that they want to play.
Like, I can't believe I put them through that
because I can't only imagine now
seeing my son with that reaction.
So I feel bad.
Apologies to my parents,
but thank you for supporting it as long as you did.
Hey, hockey's expensive.
That's what they say,
and they don't really explain it much,
but here's JJ.
Now that goalie, obviously treason.
Yeah, come on.
Right there immediately,
but we need to have a JJ.
Look at that.
Hey.
It's a bomb.
A little C-bar south.
A little C-bar south, baby.
Hey, you're a fucking guy on the ice, JJ.
That's for real.
Oh, it is for real man I love it
up there in Wisconsin you have to be basically it puts put on skates as soon as you can walk in
my dad would take me to the rink all the time and play hockey and we'd go to Milwaukee Admirals
games that's really one of the first professional sports experiences that I had where I got to go
see it and I got to you know catch tickets dropping down from the blimp uh i used to love
those moments and that's one of those things that inspired me to be a professional athlete i'd go
watch the milwaukee admirals play and i'd think to myself one day i could be out there warming up
with the pros and it didn't happen to be hockey for me but it did help me get the nfl hey you
got some mitts too huh you're dangling a little bit you You would have had to fight. We got any skaters on the show?
Anybody here skate?
No, we played on the street.
We skated in New England.
I can skate.
Yeah, you have to skate in New England.
I'm from Michigan.
Same deal as Wisconsin.
It's exactly what JJ just said.
You guys are skating on lakes trying to do triple axels.
No, we aren't.
No, we aren't.
No.
You're not Gordon Bob Day.
I've seen the video.
I've played hockey before I've played any other sport. Okay, yeah, I. You're not Gordon Bob Day. I'm saying the video. I played hockey before I played any other sport.
Okay, yeah, I'm sure you did.
I'm sure you did.
Real hockey cities.
That's how it works.
Yeah, right.
You guys are sailing up there.
You're on the summer.
What'd you say?
The beanpot up there in Boston.
Thank you, JJ.
I mean, let these guys know.
My God, it's about time.
Someone with some real hockey sense came in here. Ty can skate. We see him skate around these guys know. My God, it's about time. So with some real hockey sense
came in here. Ty can skate. We see him skate around
the office all the time. Yeah, that's right. I prefer
blades. That's my weapon of choice.
But, you know, yeah, if you want to get me out on the ice,
I'll fucking go blue line to blue line pretty goddamn
quick. Yeah. Come on.
We just, we just, oh, we're not on the
nevermind. All right. Gosh, I'm a amateur.
Get me out of here. What a shit show.
Sorry. I thought he said death bomb on the air again.
No, that's only you.
Yeah.
That's only you.
He's professional.
The window has closed, my friend.
We can say it right now.
Fuck, fuck, fuck.
Do you want to let something fly, JJ, now that you're all grown up and you're a dad and your
kid's watching?
Do you want to drop any?
Here's Ty.
This is Ty.
Oh, no.
You can see that's quite the drop off the stage there.
I mean, you're not technically doing that on your standard break.
Those are sick plays.
Run that back.
Run that back.
Yeah, this is the launch of the NHL playoffs, I think.
Look at the dangles.
Goal.
Yeah.
Score.
Yeah. What. Yeah.
What were you
it looked like
you knew the drop-off
was there
and yet Bill botched it.
Yeah, he's trying
to do a little trick.
He's trying to do some tricks.
By the way,
our TV's being leveled
by a couple DVDs.
Yeah.
If we want to look
at the old school off-paws,
look at the bottom.
The helmet.
Yeah, well,
that's the only hockey league. That's the only hockey bucket we had at the bottom of the helmet yeah well that's only hockey league
that's the only hockey bucket we had at this time just yet that's why we bought that one actually
uh but yeah that tv's down there yeah yeah you know you think the stage would be level but
over time that just doesn't happen anymore no boy that place was such a shithole i mean
it was fun.
I am so happy we are not in there every single day anymore.
It is great to be here.
The ceiling in there.
That doesn't get enough time.
Clap it up for the progress of the show.
Hey, you're right.
Clap it up.
Clap it up.
Clap it up.
You've been watching Gary Vee's breaks on Fanatics Live.
Have you seen any of these?
No.
I can't say I have.
What is it? I'll send you the link
next time they're going. Yeah, you'll love it. It is
must watch. Make sure you got a nice glass of
vino if you're watching. Yeah, in about
10 hours because you will not
be able to turn it off. I'll tell you what, I got
captivated in there. I got lost in there. I watched
your plans. That's what I'm saying. Yes.
The wife was really like trading cards.
It's like opening cards. Well, it's Gary V
opening Gary V Mon, which are the cards that he created.
He's the boss.
And he's beat the boss of the game where he's going against somebody in the chat.
And he's living and dying with every one of these cards that he's doing.
I mean, it is.
I'm telling you.
I almost saw that guy get broken because there was a slow snail that came through
and dropped an elbow on his optimistic apostle.
Yeah, he lost a luka
donkic rookie card and he it basically seemed as though one of his kids died and then he also
mentioned right after he's got about 15 luka donkic rookie cards so it didn't matter yeah
it was an awesome night we spent a night with gary v and uh i did not plan on being there that long
but yeah me and about 300 others sat on X and watched. Couldn't stop. From the very beginning to the end.
What a treat.
Gary, thank you for everything.
Love you, Gary.
Thank you.
I would say my wife was not happy at all.
Why?
Yeah.
She couldn't see the electricity.
She couldn't sleep because she was too excited.
She couldn't sleep.
I don't know if it got her so jacked up.
She only had the audio.
She didn't have the video.
Need both.
Need to see gary right while
listening to gary she could only hear him yelling out of my phone because i had that thing at max
too because i didn't want to miss no any words in that entire thing right i'll send you the link
next time jj get you inspired i love inside jokes i'd love to be a part of it all right sweet maybe
one day ladies Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Watt. Thank you, buddy.
I have a random question.
What do you mean?
Out of nowhere.
You watch Gary Vee?
Random? Well, he said clap it up.
That's the last time I heard that.
We asked everybody that.
You asked Trey Young that.
Yeah, I know.
That's what got me thinking.
You asked Trey Young.
Big Gary Vee guy?
He's like, well, yeah, he comes to the game.
I know he's front row.
Gary, keep doing these breaks, dude.
You're right back in my algorithm.
Is that what it's called?
A break?
Yeah, breaking boxes, dude.
But he's doing it live on what?
Fanatics Live, X, Instagram, TikTok, MySpace, Facebook, Discord.
I know.
I'm just asking for the people that don't know so they can go find it.
You don't have to go find it.
You have a friend that will got i had a very nice friend that sent me a link and said hey you will thank me later
and then 12 hours later i sent you a thank you you're welcome
but you and me were on the sideline down there at the red River Rivalry in Dallas, Texas, Texas State Fair.
One of the greatest environments I've ever seen.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
250,000 people at the State Fair.
Then he got another 100,000 people in the Cotton Bowl watching these two teams battle.
The one star of the game, Dylan Gabriel, quarterback of Oklahoma.
Rushed for over 100, threw for over 250-plus.
Absolute dog.
But on the defensive side for Oklahoma, a man that we knew of
because his stats were ridiculous.
He was leading the Big 12 in tackles before the game,
still doing that afterwards.
A man who stole the show because he's built like a damn defensive end
playing middle linebacker.
Number 28, ladies and gentlemen, Danny Stutzman.
Yay!
Hey, what's up, guys?
Hey, sick shirt.
Hold on.
Let's dive right into it.
That's a picture after the big-time win of you smoking a cigar.
I'll see you.
Is this for sale right now?
It is for sale, actually.
Appreciate you trying to plug in my merch.
You can find it on my Twitter.
I am also, at the end of the day, a broke college student, so anything helps.
I'll send you guys some no, don't send us
we'll buy 20 of them
and make you have a good time
and Norman hopefully will be able to contribute
to the boys having a night sometime
do you guys still do that? Boys still have nights?
yeah man
it happens all the time, especially with the bye week
some of the guys get together, maybe hit a karaoke night
or something like that, you know how it goes
okay, so the boys over here would like to send the boys and Norman through your T-shirt 10 to 15 drinks.
So we'll buy 50 of those shirts, and then we'll end up giving them away.
We're proud of you, man.
Way to run a little business, too, in the middle of this whole thing.
Let's move along here in the conversation.
Texas, the convo was, they're big, they're fast, they're strong.
They've already proven themselves. They beat Alabama at Alabama. Oklahoma, with the stink that your team had
surrounding you last year, coming into this year, I think people were just expecting you guys to fall
in the big moment. Then we saw this video after the game of a speech that you gave beforehand,
and I think you all knew immediately you were going to win but you speaking to the team
has made its way public and this is a little bit of a highlight of that They got to feel this, man. Every day. I'm certain about two things in life.
I'm certain that one, Oklahoma only fears God.
And number two, Texas fears Oklahoma.
Whoa!
What a moment.
Was that the message all week from Venables and you and the boys?
We got to be more physical because that was certainly the case.
Is that the mindset going in?
And congrats to you guys executing.
I mean, absolutely, man.
Physicality is the number one thing in football,
especially in that Red River rivalry, man.
Looking back at the history of it, the team that wins the rushing battle
and the team that wins the turnover margins,
the team that's going to win the game, man.
And that's how you got to dominate up front, man, and that's how it's done.
So that kind of was the whole emphasis, man.
It's been the emphasis since last year, obviously losing 49-0.
And as a competitor, man, that's embarrassing.
That's humiliating, you know, being a part of that.
But, you know, we had a lot of guys, you know,
leave their winter break early, get back on campus,
you know, 49 med balls every single day,
pretty much at workouts, be reminded of that.
And it's just the grind that we were willing to do,
you know, for that moment right there.
Love to hear about that. Did you black out in the middle of that speech or was that premeditated
out there yeah pretty much man i feel like i felt like i kind of remembered that d-hop clip of him
talking about how he only fears god and i kind of like kind of kind of took apart from that and
then kind of made it my own and i because i remember uh dan cody you know another crazy
defensive end that played oklahoma told me you always got to have a crazy speech.
And so now I try to think of some stuff to really get the guys going.
But, you know, kind of off the dome right there.
Just want to get the guys pumped.
Obviously, in a game like that at 11 a.m., a lot of emotion, man.
You know, especially with a lot of people that didn't believe in us.
You know, like yourself, Pat.
We saw the clip.
Yeah, okay.
But, hey, it's okay.
That's what we need.
I know now. I learned. Yeah, okay. But hey, it's okay. That's what we need. I know now.
I learned.
Okay, I apologize.
I can only go off the information that I have in the moment in which I'm speaking.
Yes.
And that Texas team, when we saw it play against Alabama, it was like,
this looks like college football playoff team.
Like, this is what this looks like.
And I hadn't seen you guys in person.
As soon as we saw you guys, we're like, hold the phone now.
Hey, Oklahoma's got some big boys, yourself included, Danny.
Loved watching your team.
Go ahead, AJ.
So we were lucky enough to be right there in the end zone on the sidelines the whole game.
Is there any way for you to explain in words what that felt like once the clock hit zero and you guys won?
We were watching you guys celebrate.
We could just see how excited, like it just seemed like the greatest moment.
And so what was it like on the field afterwards and also in the locker room?
Yeah, you know, on that field, you know,
specifically that last play, you know,
obviously when there's like a Hail Mary type of play like that
where you can't really control because you're not in the end zone,
you know, being a white guy that can't really jump,
they don't want you back there.
They actually, they blitzed me, you know,
probably a little bit better idea than just run back there.
But, you know, the ball was in the air for like,
it felt like forever, man, just kind of feeling hopeless because you can't do anything back there, you know. But obviously when the ball hit the ground um you know the ball was in the air for like it felt like forever man just kind of
feeling hopeless because you can't do anything back there you know but obviously when the ball
hit the ground you know that sense of relief man you know working so hard for that moment
obviously it's just one game in the regular season but you know it means a lot to the state of
oklahoma you know looking in the locker room and seeing where that trophy case looking all empty
especially for the guys before us us being keepers of the room you know having that trophy there for
so long you know it's kind of been the narrative that what Oklahoma
does and, you know, get it back finally, you know, kind of clear up all that, that bad
juju to say, man, just really, really proud of the team and how they perform.
Yeah.
And if you think about the Oklahoma fans, if their year round life is anything like
what we saw, The amount of shit talking
from Texas and Oklahoma. I mean, everybody
is this, like everybody, in people's
faces. Soon as you see just somebody
wearing orange, boom, right there.
If you're an Oklahoma fan. And if you're a Texas fan,
as soon as you see anybody wearing Oklahoma
stuff, it's like right in the face.
So you guys last year, I assume
Texas fans thought you guys were dead. Like,
Venables has come in. This is going to be a whole new team. So to get that win at that moment, I assume Texas fans thought you guys were dead. Like, Venables has come in. This is going to be a whole new team.
So to get that win at that moment, I assume it's not just the players that are feeling incredible,
the coaches that are feeling incredible, but the Oklahoma fans can once again say,
hey, we're a fucking wag.
You guys really are.
Like, do you have the belief?
And you said 49 med ball throws, and obviously you think about everything in the 49-0 game since then.
But going into this year, did it feel like this team had the makings of a team that can go on a run because you
are right now in a driver's seat to get everything that every team wants at the beginning of the
season going in did you guys know that and how do you feel about the boys now absolutely man you
know with coach venables and the culture that he's brought you know we're really prepared every
single week you know we we prepare to a standard, we're really prepared every single week. We prepare to a standard, not to the opponent.
So every single week, nothing changes.
Really, we have a lot of talented guys.
Last year, with Dylan Gabriel getting hurt and everything,
it kind of set us back a little bit.
But really talented team, man.
A lot of hardworking guys show up every single day,
committed to the standard, committed to what it takes, man.
Tell me about Dylan Gabriel.
I mean, he was cerebral, methodical, and then he was 120 yards, I think,
rushing on the ground whenever he needed it.
Took some big shots as well in there.
Didn't blink whenever they needed him to make a big-time play.
Tell me about your quarterback and your guys' thoughts of him in the locker room.
Yeah, Dylan has the it factor, man.
You know, he's really a Heisman, you know, kind of dude right now, man.
The way he's playing, man, the way he can sling the ball.
You know, I've played with a lot of great quarterbacks, you know, Caleb Williams, Spencer Radler.
He's seen a lot of great guys come through here.
But, you know, the way Dylan handles himself is already like a professional, man.
You know, the way his eyes are, he looks one way and he's already known it's his decision.
He slings the ball across the field the other way.
And it's just talented the way the guy operates, man.
And really, you know, we do team movies every single friday and i've never seen him watch the movies always on
his ipad watching film studying you know being the most prepared guy because he doesn't want to be
the dude who makes makes that mistake that's how dylan every single day what was the movie before
texas that dylan gabriel didn't watch all right so here so last year we watched the movie amsterdam
awful movie and then for 11 a.m kickoff, we were supposed to watch 300.
Didn't work.
We watched Amsterdam, got our tail spanked.
And so this year, no movie, went to bed super early,
so we were really prepared.
Oh, I love that.
I love that.
Not even going to roll the dice on whether or not the movie stinks
or can work.
We got early bedtime.
We got Texas in the morning.
Darius has a question for you.
Yeah, you guys were really prepared.
And obviously the identity, a lot of people say the team takes on identity
of their coach.
Want to know, number one, how is it playing for Brent Venables?
And number two, like what was the mindset on that goal line stand?
I know the defense started off the game.
I think it was Gentry Williams with a pick on like a slant early.
So you guys came out the gate firing.
But what was said?
What was the mood in that huddle
when it came to have a huge goal line stand for that defense?
Yeah, you know, it started off with Coach Venables.
You know, a lot of people don't know, but he's actually our scout team quarterback.
And for your head coach to be the scout team quarterback
and, you know, be a part of the defense,
because realistically he built the defense.
So when he's out there slinging the rock, you know,
kind of embarrassing these dudes, you know,
we have to bring it every single day.
And, you know, that's the type of dude you want as your head coach, man.
Someone's out. He'll he'll he'll lower the shoulder. You know, he'll run you over.
Is he in pads? Is he in pads?
He's not in pads, man. But you'd be surprised, man.
Coach, he's a guy waking up at 5 a.m. to run stadiums.
And he actually hurt his meniscus and he was still at practice slinging the rock, man. It doesn't take all
the days off. Hold on, he's in a training room getting
his ankles taped
before practice. How you doing, stud?
It's been a fucking cookie today.
Is that real?
He gets more treatment than I think some of the guys right now.
He puts a lot through his body
but kind of looking back at that
goal line stand, man, it's just the mentality, man.
Obviously, when you get down to the one yard line, Texas you know, Texas has their jumbo package, you know, whatever that means, bringing in their defensive tackles.
And we have our linebacker, you know, rolled down at D-end, you know, coming in there to Sam McCullough.
Kudos to him, man, brought it to him, you know, smacked him.
And then our Kip Lewis, a sophomore coming in, haven't played any snaps all game, making three big plays in on every tackle.
And at that point, it's just heart, man.
It's how bad you want it, man.
How bad do you want to be remembered?
How bad do you want your legacy to go as Oklahoma Sooner?
Hell yeah.
Go ahead, AJ.
As far as how physical you guys were, like,
that was a very, very physical game on both sides.
But I noticed from the jump, from the first play,
you guys, especially on defense and your offense too,
you guys were trying to, like, you were the aggressors. You were going defense and your offense too you guys were trying
to like you were the aggressors you were going downhill and giving a little you know little
nudges after the whistle and a little holding guys down for a second nothing dirty but you guys
it looked like you were made out of conscious effort like hey we want to be the more physical
team is that something that you guys take pride in 100 you know coach v always says good things
comes to those who attack you know you can't really wait for anything man if you want it you
got to go out and get it.
And that's kind of been the mentality of this team all year.
Hey, we're watching, you know, the game.
And I just got done with game day right into it.
I just got done picking against you.
Then go right into it, which I apologize.
I learned.
I learned.
I do apologize.
But then we go right into it.
And then we do our first one.
And it was pick.
I think first series went second play.
You guys get a pick. And we went to like a commercial break, like 45 seconds into the game. into it and then we do our first one and it was pick i think first series what second play you
guys get a pick and we went to like a commercial break like 45 seconds into the game those first
five minutes were the longest five minutes in the history of football and just which is a compliment
to you guys but as soon as it's up aj was like the oklahoma team is the one they're the you know
what i mean and i was like what do you mean he was like look after the one. They're the, you know what I mean? And I was like, what do you mean? He was like, look after the play.
Like, they're getting up off the guys.
Like, they are letting Texas know, like, hey, we are the physical ones here.
And A.J. played the same exact way.
So I think he knew early, like, hey, this is a little bit of a different game.
It wasn't like you guys were scared, not that you should be.
But with the complete opposite, you guys were supposed to win that game.
It was cool to watch
it unfold. We were lucky to be there. No phone service, didn't know what down it was, how many
yards you had to go, but it was awesome to be there and watch your team work. AQ has a question
for you. Yeah, Danny, after a huge, huge, huge win early in the season, how do you avoid the letdown
as we go later in the season? How do we kind of keep the foot on the gas pedal moving forward?
Absolutely, man. That's a great question. You know,
it's human nature to get complacent after a win like that,
but obviously I talked about it earlier, you know,
we prepared to a standard not to an opponent.
So the way we prepared against Arkansas state was the exact same way we
prepared for Texas, you know, into this bi-week, you know,
we had a Monday lift, had a lift this morning, you know,
talk to the guys, look like this is where we separate ourselves from,
you know, being a good team to being a great team. You know, I think good teams come into a bi-week, you know, talk to the guys, look like this is where we separate ourselves from, you know, being a good team to being a great team. You know, I think good teams come into a bye week, you know,
kind of let off a little bit. Don't, don't put as much weight on that bar and great teams really,
really push themselves, you know, really strive, you know, to do what it takes. You know, we have
a full pad of practice today and we've already told the guys, look like this is where we have
to be physical. And this is where the reps really count. You know, we can take care of our bodies,
but every single practice matters. We can't let a day go by where we're
not getting better. You got a massive neck.
Did you see that, AJ? As he was talking about,
we got full pad practice today. You got a
big-time neck. We're hitting today, huh? Stutz?
100%, man.
Coach V's got to look out, man, because we're coming.
Hey,
tear his other meniscus.
You know what I mean? What are we even talking about?
What's your nickname? They call you Stutz?
Man, yeah, pretty much.
Stutz, kind of.
You know, I don't want to steal the Boz's thing,
but, I mean, it kind of just rolls off the tongue smooth,
but you know how it goes.
Yeah, the nickname is a big part of it,
especially if you're going to have a merch line.
Stutz doing his thing.
Speaking of who you just mentioned,
Ty has a question for you.
Yeah, Danny, we saw the Boz kind of patrolling the sidelines
during the game, and then he was obviously in the locker room with you guys post game
crazy because it seems like you are kind of the second coming of him in terms of just like the
way you look out there your personality and everything what's your relationship uh like
with the boss and uh what what did you know did you have any time with him before the game where
he kind of maybe gave you some advice going in?
Yeah, you know, throughout the entire game, the boss on the sideline, you know, when you have one of the greatest linebackers to ever play, you know, really kind of revolutionize the position.
You know, when he tells you something and, you know, when he's like, you've got to find the over by the tight end, you know, obviously that's your you're thinking that right away, man.
This guy knows what he's talking about.
And, you know, the boss is, you know, he's come by.
He's been a part of the program a lot more. He spoke to the team before the season.
He spoke to the team last year. It's all about mindset
and attitude and how the guy handles himself,
man. Anything he says, I'm like a
sponge for that knowledge, man, because he's been through it.
He knows exactly what it takes, exactly what it looks like.
What's your major?
I was business,
but I had to switch to communications.
Sweet. I was communications major as well.
I did not finish.
I'm still in my pursuit of my degree.
Sounds like you're a pretty intelligent dude, though.
Is that just football IQ?
I'd say it's a little bit of both.
Obviously, Coach Venables is always – that's a dude that has memory like an elephant, man.
He's always spitting off stats.
I think the first time I met him, he took us to dinner, and I sat sat next to him and he was quizzing me with stuff and i got every single question
wrong and at that point i was like man i'm screwed but you know he kept faith in me you know kept
pouring into me and uh you know here i am today man but yeah i've been been raised good man you
know try to try to be smart times obviously we play linebacker so in a few years will probably
be different when i probably you know no no no a few years, it'll probably be different. No, no, no. A few years. 10, 15 years.
This is what your future looks like.
You're wearing a special helmet.
That is what your future looks like right there next to us
in front of a fake bookshelf.
Oklahoma fans obviously know that you're all in on Oklahoma.
You've been there for a while, a lot of transition.
Now, Stutz, I'm going to let you know.
After talking to you, I love you.
Absolutely love you. After watching to you, I love you. Okay?
Absolutely love you.
After watching you play football, love you.
After the cigar thing and the press conference moment with Coach Venables,
love everything about you.
Just want to let you know.
Love everything about you.
This tattoo you got on your thigh, though, real?
I mean, I kind of kept up.
I can actually, you know, it might be real.
It might be fake. I think you guys can see it you know, it might be real. It might be fake.
I think you guys can see it right there.
It looks pretty real.
It's pretty real.
It could be a temporary tattoo, man.
I'll kind of leave it up.
Maybe in 20 or 25 years, we can go back to this discussion.
But, you know, Texas fans, it is whatever they want to believe.
I'm kind of getting backlash.
They say whatever I like.
I'm taking a shit or something.
I'm going to see it. But, I mean, I'm staring at my phone anyway, so I don't really care.
Stutz, I love that you're a legend already, pal.
I don't think you had a link to your shirt.
So we made a little scan thing for people to be able to purchase this for you.
Let's go ahead and support Stutz.
Let's go ahead and let Stutz have a good time while he's in college with his name image likeness. This is the exact purpose of this type
of thing. Dude balls out, has a massive moment. We can give our congratulations through a purchase
of a shirt. We're proud of you, buddy. Keep crushing it and congrats to your Oklahoma Sooners
for having a great start this year. I appreciate you guys for having me, man. This is an honor,
man. You guys play West Virginia this year or no?
Yeah, we do.
In West Virginia or in Oklahoma?
No, we played them last year at West Virginia.
They freaking got us, man.
I can't believe that.
Oh!
Oh, did we?
It was the first time in a long time.
Morgantown's a tough place.
Dude, it was freezing cold, rainy.
It was brutal, but yeah yeah yeah yeah welcome to big 12
football okay sorry about it anyways uh good luck the rest of the way you're the best ladies
and gentlemen danny stutz
stutz is a legend yeah he's awesome well i was business but had dropped out of communications
i would love to know the deceit yep we we've all kind of know exactly what happened there.
How about them doing
the 49 med ball things?
I love it.
I love that type of like reminder
every single day.
That's a big time college thing,
but also obviously a motivator.
Yeah, motivation,
especially in a rivalry game like that.
He talked about seeing
the empty trophy case
and I think he said
keepers of the house,
what did they say there?
So I love it though.
Yeah, Venable seems to have
the boys flying.
His defense,
whenever he was at Clemson, like super sophisticated, right? Like that's what they were like. So I love it though. Yeah, Venable seems to have the boys flying. His defense, whenever he was at Clemson,
like super sophisticated, right? Like that's what
they were like, hey, this guy runs a super sophisticated
offense. Gotta have a lot of smart people
in there. He drops into Oklahoma
and it's not good. Defense was
actually bad. Offense was bad. Dylan Gabriel
gets hurt. Nothing really takes place
and they're like, what the hell's going on? Defense side
of the ball now feels like it's
his, you know, got some transfer, got his, you know,
feels like it's his defense.
And I'm happy for Oklahoma,
even though they're leaving the Big 12 right after this year.
Yeah.
Going right into the SEC.
I love it.
Good move.
I'd run from West Virginia too.
That's what you said good move for?
No.
It had nothing to do with West Virginia.
Absolutely nothing to do with West Virginia.
What does it have to do with?
Going to the SEC. Are you kidding me? Yeah. And I've noticed the SEC doesn't with West Virginia. Absolutely nothing to do with West Virginia. What does it have to do with? Going to the SEC.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, and I've noticed the SEC doesn't want West Virginia in it either.
Nope.
That makes sense, Greg Sankey.
I wouldn't want them either.
Our rifle team would go right in the SEC and out-shoot all of them.
Tear them up.
Our men's soccer team, dominate.
Women's soccer team, beat them all.
I think our women's soccer team is like number two in the country or something like that.
Men's like number seven in the country. Rifles never
lost. I don't think they've ever lost. Ever.
They had them take on Navy SEALs.
Jack Carr, right?
Let's call him on.
Jack Carr was a member of the
West Virginia Mountaineer Rifle Team.
That is why that thing.
Now, if we're talking football, I don't know
if the West Virginia boys will be able to handle the SEC
week in, week out, but who can?
Maybe.
Bingo.
Who can?
Nobody.
Not even the SEC.
Oklahoma can.
I think they're built for it.
Texas is also built for it.
For sure.
Like, that is the – and it's – I think people say I sound like I don't
know anything about anything whenever I use this as an actual reason
why somebody's going to win.
But in football, like, size matters. Like, it Like it is like in a fight game, in physical combat, like size matters.
And if size can move, like, okay, those are two boxes that get checked that another team doesn't
have. So like some of these teams, whenever you're trying to judge college football,
it's pretty easy to see who's probably going to win this game when you've got 6'4", 320, 6'3", 315, 6'6", 295,
taking on smaller size at offensive line.
It's like across the board, this team's bigger, stronger, faster,
probably going to win this game.
Now, there might be a fluke that could take place,
and it doesn't come together,
but there's no chance a team isn't going to be big enough
to go to the college football playoff.
Got to be big.
And Texas was big when we saw them.
They were SEC big when we saw them.
And then watching Oklahoma, it's like Oklahoma's fucking big too.
And it's because they're going to the SEC,
I assume they're able to start recruiting SEC-style players.
Size matters, and then quarterbacks matter.
Texas got Arch, and then Oklahoma got a kid named Jackson Arnold,
who's the number one quarterback coming out of Texas this year.
So they're set there, too.
We saw Arch Manning's walker.
Go ahead.
No, so there are some outliers.
I feel like when you guys were –
Our West Virginia team?
West Virginia, yeah.
I don't think you guys were the biggest team,
but that stretch zone with quarterbacks, Pat White, Slayton,
and what y'all had on both sides of the ball
actually. That's some dynamic
scheme.
That was your big thing last year, though, when you went
to TCU.
They were huge. It's like, oh, these are adults.
This team that I'm standing
on a stage and I'm eye-to-eye with all
of them as they're jogging by. Like, oh, there's the
offense. All right, I'm eye-to-eye with them.
There's the tight ends. I'm eye-to-eye with them. There's the linebackers. I'm eye-to-eye with them. Oh, there's the tight ends. I'm eye-to-eye with them.
There's the linebackers.
I'm eye-to-eye with them.
They're D-line.
They're taller than me.
I'm standing on a six-inch lifting thing.
I'm like, these fuckers are huge.
I had no idea they were this big.
I like them all of a sudden.
I like the big team.
Our West Virginia team, they don't make them like that anymore.
And I say our because I happen to be there,
but I was riding the coattails of a lot of people.
We had dogs all over the place.
I don't think any of those guys
would be allowed to play D1 football at this
point. Both of these guys.
You know what I mean? Myself included.
With the way we were living and the thing
that we would have got sent
to NAIA, I think, with the way our team
was built. So there's a little different.
If you can find a team that has what our West Virginia team had,
just a chemistry, though.
Like, we really – our team was so tight.
Brotherhood.
And I have never seen a group of people that were more different
coming together than that one right there.
So if you can find that, I think that's good as well.
But if we could have a little bit more size,
I think we all would have been okay with that if that would have taken place.
Well, it really was, though.
I mean, it's one of those things where when you're on the sideline like that,
it's so much different, and you have to kind of double-check a couple times,
look at the program, like, no, there's no way.
Yep, that dude is that fucking big.
Okay, it's not just like a trick that my eyes are playing on me.
And the technique and stuff might be different,
but the O-line versus the D-line,
that looks very similar to what you see in an NFL game.
It's like, oh, the size here is crazy.
Speed as well.
Yeah, exactly.
I do need to make a correction.
The West Virginia women's soccer team is currently ranked 120th in the country.
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
There was a two in there.
Could have been worse.
Did you say they hadn't lost in five years?
I don't know. No, it's a rival team.. Could have been worse. Did you say they hadn't lost in five years? I don't know.
Rifle team.
Rifle team.
From two to 120.
They started out.
They were ranked too early, though.
They started off the season.
Yeah, they had a couple tough weeks, I think.
Come on, ladies.
Let's go, dude.
Right on the cusp.
W's currently.
How are the Palm E-Gamers doing?
They doing all right?
Currently four in rifle.
Who? W. W's currently. How are the Palm E-gamers doing? They doing all right? Currently four in rifle. Who?
W. Whoa.
What, did we miss one bullseye?
What did we?
Sorry. We missed one.
A guy sneezed while he was shooting.
Sorry. Sue us. Yikes.
Heart rate raised just half a beat and we weren't perfect.
Four? Yeah. That's not good.
Are we in the middle of season right now? Rifle season? I don't know.
I'm just looking at the standings. We didn't finish four
so yes, we're certainly in the middle.
Don't you worry. Whenever a push
comes to shove and the pressure's on,
that's what
the West Virginia Rifle Team is, pal.
What a joke, you saying what you just said.
Not even on the podium.
Yikes. Yeah, we just beat the fuck out of
Akron. That's what I thought.
Akron isn't even a top-tier rifle team school?
Well, that's how we started our season, so what do you want from us?
Akron said, we want to sign up to take on the best,
and they said, is that right?
And didn't even miss.
Didn't even miss one bullseye.
Not even outside the inner circle of the outside of the outer circle. We're talking in the inner circle.
We're talking red, dart game. So this is like
college football playoff committee.
Unfortunately, they were not dominant
enough against Akron to be number one.
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck's going on with this ranking
system. I'm not happy about it. We get to the bottom
of it. I mean, guys haven't won a national
championship in a long time. What?
How long?
2017. No way!
What the hell's going on there? 2013, West Virginia. 2014, West 2017. No, Wayne. Oh, no. Are you kidding? What the hell is going on there?
2013, West Virginia.
2014, West Virginia.
2015, West Virginia.
We're going the other way, Z.
Thank you, buddy.
2016, West Virginia.
2017, West Virginia.
What happened?
Oh, he got a new horse.
Kentucky.
John Hammond must have retired.
Kentucky.
Harry Mullins had those boys.
Kentucky and TCU have found their shot.
Dude, Alaska Fairbanks. Alaska Fairbanks is going to win for the next 30 years. Well, everybodyU have found their shot. Dude, Alaska Fairbanks
is going to win for the next 30 years.
Well, everybody traveling to play against them.
What do we do? We got to fly to Russia?
They've got a 20-hour flight? You think they're
able to just pop out and start sniping
bullseyes? Nope. Why is Ohio State
hosted all the time? Fuck. It's not in Alaska.
It's in Ohio State. Yeah, why are they hosted?
West Virginia's real close.
Bullets, duh.
So Ohio State probably said, you guys want to shoot a bunch of rifles?
Come on.
Come on in.
No problem at all.
Anyways, West Virginia's going to win again this year.
We just showed that with what we did to Akron.
We started the season hot.
We're going to continue to be hot.
And we're only getting better.
Kentucky's back down in order, second or third, if I had to guess.
Well, TCU.
I'm not sure.
Those TCU Horned Frog boys, it looks like they are also some sharpshooters.
Well, let's get to what really matters here, which is rightful teams
weren't in a natty.
Women's soccer team needs picking.
Yep, a little bit.
They are 5-7-3.
Oh.
Tough schedule this year.
We got five wins, though.
120th, you would think you wouldn't even win five.
I assume that's probably D2 schools that we played against.
Well, yeah, but those seven losses were against seven top ten teams.
I have been informed that the University of Pittsburgh women's soccer team is good, though.
Oh.
That's good news.
Okay.
Nice.
WVU and Pitt, you wouldn't think that they'd be good soccer schools, but they have been for a long time.
Well, that's where Western Pennsylvania has got good soccer players.
That's where I grew up.
I was lucky to do that.
A lot of great players.
Not as fast as some of the people, but gritty.
We'll fight you.
Yeah.
And then we'll get a red card.
And then we'll flop like we're offensive linemen.
Boo.
What's that all about?
Ridiculous.
I'm not happy about it.
Do we even want to do it in the trenches?
We should ban it in the trenches.
We got some good trenches.
AJ, that's good silver lining.
You know, like, they did get a first down and all that,
and the offensive linemen helped.
But, like, the overall offensive lineman helped, but
the overall image is like, what are we doing?
You know what I mean? Embarrassing.
Can you imagine if Swifties are watching this
and this is the first time they're seeing a game
like this? Then what? Yeah, then what,
AJ? Hope you're happy.
I'm not saying I'm happy by this, but I'm saying
he did get his team 15 yards.
Hunter's been flopping a long time.
Some of us chose not to.
Some people are not happy that we chose not to
because, once again, it is a first down
if you just fall on your face right here.
Some kickers flop.
Basketball players flop.
Wide receivers flop.
We can't have offensive linemen for the good of the sport.
We just can't have it, AQ.
I couldn't agree more.
I mean, that's a bad Green Bay.
Send an email.
At Green Bay. You see what the fucking offense was doing? I did. I mean it, AQ. I couldn't agree more. I mean, that's a bad Green Bay. Send an email. Green Bay.
You see what the fucking offense was doing?
I did.
I mean, we needed that.
I mean, Green Bay is the epitome of toughness, too.
Like, that's old school.
Old school.
The original.
I don't know if they've been the epitome of toughness for a while.
But when you think football, you think Green Bay.
Yeah.
Frozen country.
Yeah.
They're both not anymore.
Unfortunately, Vince Lombardi ain't walking through them fucking doors, AQO.
Yeah, it's been a long time since I've seen him.
It's about the floor.
Yeah, and he cares more about, you know, making sure his eyebrows and his chin straps lined up
than he does about our offensive line playing tough.
So maybe that's a problem.
It's a good chin strap.
It's true.
Great eyebrows.
Great lineup.
Looks great.
I'm happy that everything we did led to that moment.
Me too.
You know, I'm pumped that we got there.
Shout out to us getting tied to it.
Say the truth.
Good boy, Ty.
That's how Ty feels about Coach LeFleur.
I do believe Coach LeFleur, though, has the rest of the season to make up, right?
He can turn the –
Oh, yeah.
The rest of this season, probably the rest of next season as well.
I mean, this guy's fucking clean.
Yeah.
Clean. Beard. If we could zoom this guy's fucking clean. Yeah. Clean.
Beard.
If we could zoom in on the beard thing.
Yeah, wow.
Look at that line.
If my players are wearing chin straps, oh my.
Eyebrows look good.
Beard looks good.
Decision making on fleek, obviously.
Yeah.
Whenever he's calling games.
I need my eyebrows lined like that.
Your eyebrows are allowed to be eyebrows, dude.
No, I think it looks pretty good
You should do a chin strap
You do that red light thing
To trim up his eyebrows
I don't do that
What's that?
The trim up of the eyebrows
But I need to after seeing this
This is incredible looking
Yeah, he looks really good
AQ's five fight camps away from being Matt LaFleur
What happened with Bader's fight?
Guy pulled out on Monday That's bad luck Why don't you fight off? Monday, Wednesday Yeah, with Bader's fight? Guy pulled out on Monday. That's bad luck.
Why don't you fight on Monday? Yeah, why don't you fight?
Five days before, pulled out.
The fight was on Saturday? Yeah.
This upcoming Saturday? Last Saturday. Already happened.
Oh, so we already passed the time Bader
was supposed to fight? Yeah. Bader
is your fight camp that you've been in?
Well, that's what I've been training with, yeah.
Not part of the fight camp.
Is this like levels of this shit?
Yeah, there's definite levels
Once I saw them get in the cage, I was like
Do you have stitches in your nose?
Relax, dude
Is it a yes or no?
That's a no
It does look like it was quite a little injury though
As we zoom in really tight on that
So Bader now trained for how many months?
Seven week training camp.
I mean, just got after it.
He was ready.
He was ready to roll.
And then five days before,
he just pulled the plug.
Why?
What happened?
The guy got hurt?
The guy said he was sick,
said he couldn't recover
in time by the fight.
Sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
Oh, well, I'm not going to say it.
That guy could be my ass,
so I'm not going to say it.
But you've been training with him,
so you're in the fight camp.
You're allowed to say that.
That's right.
So what do they do?
Will Bader fight again or no?
Yeah, he's waiting on whatever the next one is. Why don't you do it? Tell him. This is what you've been training with him, so you're in the fight camp. You're allowed to say that. That's right. So what do they do? Bait or fight again or no? Yeah, he's waiting on whatever the next one is.
Why don't you do it?
Tell him.
This is what you've been training for.
Step in.
Get that check.
You don't want to be a champ?
No, I think I'm good.
I think I'm good.
You want to do in the trenches?
Oh, yeah.
Let's go.
We've got a good one this week.
I don't know.
You've got offensive linemen flopping all over the place.
I'll tell you who's not in the show this week.
It's Green Bay.
Green Bay's not in the show. week. It's Green Bay. Green Bay's not in the show.
Or New England.
Or New England.
Or the New York Giants who had a rough week.
Lael Collins, though, worked out for them.
That's right.
They need some reinforcement.
Steelers in it?
Well, let's talk about Lael Collins before we get to who's in it.
Are the Colts in it?
Colts are in it.
Whoa.
Everybody can fuck off.
That was good.
That was really good.
Lael Collins worked out for the Jets and the Giants.
Lael Collins got hurt in January,
right? Yes. So he'd still be recovering from
that particular thing. He's getting signed to any team
that needs help anywhere? Yeah, I mean, he's a great
player, and when you put him at
guard, he's really good. When you put him at tackle, that's
obviously his natural position, but he can help any
team right now, and the Jets
and the Giants need help.
The Jets just lost Vera Tucker
the second year in a row.
AVT with the Achilles. He'll be
out there with J.K. Dobbins
and Aaron Rodgers, we assume.
If they start healing Achilles, I thought about this yesterday
too, because the J.K. Dobbins
stuff got picked up, and then Aaron alluded
to AVT also had an Achilles
and maybe he was going to be there. If they
can heal the Achilles faster than anybody else,
whatever they got cooking in that little room there is going to become, right?
That's where everybody's going to head for the Achilles, AJ.
That type of shit happens overnight, too.
I'm not saying that this guy just got learned about,
but if success happens with Aaron, people are already seeing it,
every team will be like,
this is where we are going to try to go to cheat the game of this Achilles thing.
Yeah, that's how doctors get, like, they make their name.
I know Eletroge is already a huge guy.
The guy that fixed Sterling Sharp's nasty, like, turf toe situation,
Dr. Anderson, he's like the foot guy you go to now.
He was in North Carolina.
I think he's back in Wisconsin now. But, yeah, like get known as the dude to go to if you have certain injuries
on certain things and it seems like elitrage right now is he's the achilles guy dr andrews
is orthopedic yeah guy he's down there in birmingham alabama i do believe everybody
heads down there for surgery it's just kind of what you know like i had to have uh a surgery
on my dislocated kneecap or whatever and they were like like, you're going to go to Dr. Andrews to do this.
And it was a two-week wait or something like that because he had surgeries lined up.
I was like, I'm going to get my shit done right here.
That's the road.
Get my shit done right here, and hopefully it works out.
But everybody's trying to get in there.
For the foot thing, you said that guy.
And then Achilles, it's like, all right, we're going to Eletron.
Hip guy, I think, in Colorado.
He's like the hip.
Bill Myers in Philadelphia does all the core surgeries.
All the –
Lane Johnson, like the core surgery.
The sports attorney is – now they're called core muscle surgery.
He does them all.
Okay.
All of them.
So this is literally what just ends up happening.
If they can figure out this Achilles, though,
to become a much quicker thing than it has been,
good on them and good for all the sport.
So, Lyle Collins, though, we think good for either of these teams.
I mean, they have to.
They have to get veteran help.
And when your team's not playing well on the offensive line
and you've given your chances to the rookies
and you've let the personnel guys who they said,
oh, this guy's going to be great and okay, he's not up to speed yet,
go get a guy like Lyle Collins. I have sources from inside Achilles.
Facility?
Yeah.
Achilles Recovery Factory right here, bro.
Going to dominate like the WVU rifle team for sure.
That's from sources inside the Achilles factory that's happening out there.
Everybody's going to be here, bro.
Everybody's going to be here is what I was just told.
With the bro in there as well.
Okay.
All right.
So they're changing the game over there.
Hey, congrats, Doc.
Thanks for having us on in the background.
Keep going, Doc.
And I appreciate J.K. Dobbins in here talking shit about Achilles.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That was sweet.
Good vibes over there.
It is.
You need that.
Need it.
Absolutely need it.
And I think it results as well. And it's just like, here was sweet. Good vibes over here. It is. You need that. Need it. Absolutely need it. And I think it results as well.
And it's just like, here we go.
Hey Q, you want to do a giveaway maybe for the people?
Yeah, let's do it.
What do you want to do?
All right, you tell me.
You should dunk.
How light you are.
Want to throw some footballs?
All right.
You want to throw some footballs?
Bad angle into the yellow thing?
No.
Come on, dude.
Don't be a wuss.
He's trying to say bad angle.
I like it. Tough, tough throw. That's a tough angle. Tough throw. Tough throw. All right, dude. Don't be a wuss. He's trying to say bad angle. I like it.
It's a tough angle. Tough throw.
Alright, so you want to go for the hoop?
You want to go that way? Yeah, we'll go hoop.
Want to go that way?
He's asking you, pal. This is community's decision.
We'll go that way. Okay.
Now on this one, you know you missed right. The ball probably bounced back. No! Go this way then.
No, I'm going this way.
I want people to win.
Yeah.
Me too.
Me.
I would like you to make a shot for these people.
Me too.
After getting punched in your nose.
Somebody blew these up.
These are a little more.
This is to give money away?
We had to fix a lot of the balls.
Yeah.
A little more stuff.
Why don't you try to put it in the cornhole hole?
What?
Oh, don't waste the ball.
I was about to say that.
All right.
All right.
Here we go.
How many people do you want to win?
Ten?
You like ten?
Yeah, perfect.
Sure.
You could have said 20 there.
How many do I get?
Ten.
Five balls.
Five balls.
Five balls.
All right.
Ten.
Hold on.
Ten?
Ten?
That's it?
Ten.
Ten.
Okay.
Ten people.
$500.
If AQ Shipley can drain this for the brain
football into that basketball hoop right
over there. Now he knows that if he misses
right a little bit off the backboard with the way
a ball turns over, that'll actually bank
down to the left into the hoop.
So you want to miss to the right a little bit
and play the bank down to the
left. 10 people, $500.
Super Bowl champion. Can you be a champion
for 10 people, $500. Super Bowl champion. Can you be a champion for ten people today?
Oh.
Ooh, thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen,
if AQ Shipley can bury
this particular football, ten people will win.
Five!
Oh, that's it, though.
Come on, AQ.
Ladies and gentlemen, if AQ Shipley can bury
this football!
I mean, I'm hitting. Yeah, velocity. I'm hitting the square. Come on, Chris. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Shipley can bury this football. I mean, I'm hitting.
Yeah, velocity.
I'm hitting the square.
Okay, congrats.
Velocity is too high.
I thought that was the one.
Take the V down.
A super sweet look today.
You got the maroon pants on.
Yeah.
You got the community hoodie.
You look slender.
Oh, no strings on the shoes?
Yeah, no strings.
Really?
Those are new.
There's a couple strings. Those are neat. There's a couple strings.
Those are moving.
A little crisscross.
You're a fashion guy.
You look good.
Thanks.
With how good you look, it would only be right for you to win 10 people.
$500.
All you got to do is bury that ball into that hoop right over there.
Swish.
And 10 people were $500 richer.
Swish.
Oh, huge.
You look great.
Toughest ball. Toughest ball.
Toughest ball.
It's the biggest ball.
So it's the smallest too.
It's definitely a kicker's ball too because I can feel it.
Yeah, I think I kicked that one to myself actually.
It's one of these guys, right?
I believe that is the actual ball that I kicked to myself.
So let's make sure we take care of it.
Don't hit the bricks.
What we need you to do is hit that hoop.
Not just the rim.
We need you to hit the net. And you need you to do is hit that hoop. Not just the rim. We need you to hit the net. You need to go
through. If you do that, 10 people win
$500. 10 people
right now are watching along saying,
you know what? I could use $500.
Especially going into Halloween,
going into the holiday season with
where football is. $500 would
change my day, change my
life, change my perspective.
All you've got to do is just make one shot
for 10 people to have a better life.
AQ with your sweet shoes and your
super fashionable pants
and your community hoodie. Why don't you do it for
a community of 10 people?
Come on, boy. AQ Shipley.
Hits the bricks. You said don't hit the bricks.
Don't hit the bricks.
What was that? I feel like he did it on purpose
No more balls
No, we do have one more
He is a high school hall of famer for basketball, correct?
I mean, just don't hit the fucking bricks
Kicked the ball to myself
That ball was in a game from my foot to my hands
So stupid
I don't know how that happened
You hit the bricks I don't know how that happened. You hit the brakes.
I don't know how that happened.
That ball's heavier than all the other balls.
I don't know how you fucking go up, over,
through things.
Kind of rolled off the pinky, you know?
Yeah, I'd say.
I think quarterbacks go up there.
Alright, last one here.
Dorsal fin football.
I'll calibrate for you.
This is Russell Wilson's football. Come on. Calibrate. Calibrate for you. What?
This is Russell Wilson's football.
Yeah, you threw a great ball.
Well, make sure it's calibrated because you just caught it.
Chuck threw this thing up.
I saw it last week.
It went way up there.
It's not an easy ball to throw.
Make sure it's calibrated.
But if you're Russell Wilson, you know exactly where it's going.
You got to twist the.
It'll show you.
There's a red hand on it. Can I see it?
Can I please see it?
Make sure it's calibrated.
Calibrate that.
Boom. Calibrate that. Boom.
Calibrate.
Boom.
It's loaded, bro.
You're welcome.
Guaranteed.
You're welcome.
Careful.
You make that ball into that hoop over there, we'll give 40 people $500.
40 people, $500.
All you got to do is get the dorsal fin football into that hoop right over there.
Perfect.
Good luck, AQ. 40 people's future. Oh. $500. All you got to do is get the dorsal fin football into that hoop right over there.
Good luck, AQ.
40 peoples.
Future.
Oh.
Wow.
Not terrible.
That was pretty good.
Not terrible.
All right.
We appreciate you, AQ. All right.
Bam.
Stink this year.
Well, you're a whole new person.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Got to get used to the weight loss.
You dress like.
Yeah, it ain't just you.
I stunk, exactly. Gotta get used to the weight loss. You dress like yeah, just you
Let's get to a break, okay
Like like what I was waiting for it too. Like what? Like what?
I didn't say anything.
Ty, we could not wait.
I was waiting for it. Who was going to be the person that was going to be sitting at the end of that sentence
that was going to be taking some shrapnel because of how AQ is dressed today?
I didn't say that.
If we can watch that back, Ty's face goes.
It shows the worst.
It'll continue to get worse somehow, too.
Just know that.
And we appreciate you for rocking with us.
We'll be back tomorrow with a big-time Thursday.
Thursday night football.
Getting off week five or week six of the NFL season.
How Jacksonville State ended up last night?
Oh, boy.
It was 10-10 at halftime.
It wasn't the end.
It didn't get better after that. Liberty's undefeated, though. They're 6-10 at halftime. It wasn't the end. It didn't get better after that.
At least at half.
Liberty is undefeated, though.
They're 6-0.
Liberty, yeah.
They can run the football.
I'll tell you what.
What was the score?
31-13.
Oh, yikes.
Bad second half.
They're normally second half teams.
That was going to be a tough day for those Jacksonville State Gamecocks today.
Yeah, long Wednesday.
Lost all their hard edge.
Just got cooked in the second half.
Can't have it. Hopefully that's not the case
going forward. AJ, final thoughts
on this particular Wednesday program?
Man, I thought it was a good program, but I am confused
about AQ's community sweatshirt.
Is there some kind of joke or something I don't know about?
Yeah, I think he's just not community,
right? That's what it is? The joke is him wearing it.
The shirt says it. That's it.
It's just a brand. That's all it is. That's it.
What's the brand? Got it. Is the brand clean? all it is. That's it. What's the brand?
Got it.
Is the brand clean?
I don't know.
Tell me.
What's the brand?
Look at Ty's face.
If we could zoom out.
The brand is Les Du.
Les Du.
Can we zoom in on Ty's face right there?
Les Du.
Sensei Les Du.
Hold on.
Hold on.
And.
It was Ty's face that made me laugh.
Joel, who?
What was that?
What is he?
I was excited to hear that.
Me too.
I was too.
What a day here on this Wednesday.
Hell yeah.
D-Buck, great work this week.
Appreciate it, brother.
You're off to where?
Home and then you're Philadelphia?
Yep.
Home then Philly.
NFL matchups?
How's that show going?
Going great.
Going great.
Having a good time.
Great time.
London games kind of hurt NFL matchups. That's that show going? Going great. Going great. Having a good time. Great time.
London games kind of hurt NFL matchups because that's not how I watch it.
So now it's harder to watch.
How many do we have international game going?
We have Tennessee, Baltimore this weekend in London.
And then what?
And then the next one will be Finns Chiefs in Germany.
I think that's week 10.
And then week 11 is Pats Colts in Germany. Okay, so it won't be every week going forward.
No.
After this week, we have like four weeks, I think, with that one.
Yeah, I'm okay with it.
You know, I enjoy the game.
It's a nice change of pace.
But I'm okay watching, you know.
Yeah, sick and tired of like the, you know, seven games in the early window
and then three games in the late window.
So if we could kind of remedy that.
They've perfected that.
This one was actually nice.
I think it was six and four.
It was perfect.
Yes, perfect.
We have two weeks.
So the next one after this weekend is week nine.
Yeah.
All right, so we've got some time.
Let's enjoy this morning football.
Hell yeah.
Okay?
And let's go into a perfect NFL Sunday after we bet everything right.
Bingo.
And we're going to start that tomorrow night.
Yeah.
We're going to hit all of our bets.
Yeah.
AJ, I don't know if you've seen, I've taken a commanding lead in our picking.
Oh, have you? Yeah. I know you've won at least the last couple weeks. Yeah, I don't know if you've seen, I've taken a commanding lead in our picking. Oh, have you?
Yeah.
I know you've won at least the last couple weeks.
Yeah, 3-1-1.
You're 1-3-1, obviously.
Oh, boy.
I'll tell you what, it's felt really good to go into that Monday and just know I'm good.
I won.
Yeah, I'm just going to cheat and just take my range.
Well, you know, especially when we're one game off
and you know that you're just going to pick whatever game I do.
Bingo.
That's been a fun part of this whole thing.
That's been a real –
I'm about to get hot.
I'm about to get pretty hot on here, though.
I can feel it.
Yeah, it comes in bunches.
That's what they say.
You know, streaky shooters, that's what we all are.
I think you're going to get hot as well.
I think this week, actually, we're going to agree on every one of them,
and it's just going to be a perfect slate for both of us.
That's what I think it's going to be.
That'll be a lot of fun.
Like, for instance, Ravens-Titans
in the morning. Who do you like, AJ, early?
I don't know. I was going to ask
you who you like.
AJ! You know what? I've taken
the Titans, I think, the last three
weeks. I'm going Ravens. Okay.
Alright. So on that one, I'd be taking the
Titans there. So we would have a disagreement here
early, but we have until Friday still. That's right.
We have until Friday still. I will say the
most games that you guys have agreed on
was also your worst weeks
for both of you. I believe that was
the bad one. Which is completely different than last year.
Last year, whenever we agreed on games, we were batting
at like a 75% clip. Yes.
This year, we agreed on a bunch of games and we're
at like 22%. Maybe even
lower than that. So when everybody's
all on board, we need to flip the script a little bit.
Yep.
Like the Raiders.
Yeah, Raiders and Commanders.
All right.
Let's get to a break.
We'll be back tomorrow.
Be a friend.
Tell a friend something nice.
It might change their life.
Big shout out to Danny Stutzman, J.J.
White, Bobby Carpenter, A.J.
Hawk, A.Q.
Shipley, D-Butt, all the boys in the back.
We are so incredibly grateful for you.
Goodbye.