The Pat McAfee Show - The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 - Rebirth

Episode Date: September 4, 2018

Today's episode relaunches the Pat McAfee Show (2.0) as Pat and the crew dive into his exit from Barstool Sports and how he viewed it similarly to leaving the Colts. The guys dive into everything that... happened in the NFL this weekend including Khalil Mack going to Chicago, Jon Gruden going scorched earth in Oakland, and Colin Kaepernick being chosen as the face of Nike's new campaign. To wrap up the show, the guys recap the college football opening weekend, including Nick Saban whining about his QB's, West Virginia showing out, and a couple of terroristic plays towards The Brand. SUBSCRIBE, RATE, AND REVIEW, we're starting back at 0. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Something about he's quitting? Yeah, he is. He quit. How in the fuck do y'all lose the only cat that can carry a rodeo program on this goddamn station well joe he quit my name ain't goddamn joe what's your name john george i said it twice john he quit the cocksucker answered the phone the first time, and then I told you. Okay. John, he quit.
Starting point is 00:01:08 He ain't on the radio no more. He's done. He's gone. Yes, he quit. That's what happens when you quit. Yeah. There's an opening, though, John, if you're interested. John, how do you like Georgia's schedule this year?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Great pivot there from the big cat. Such a legend. And that response right there was a call-in to Evening Yak, I believe, on Friday with a friend of the show, John from Georgia. And that reaction was one I did not expect from a lot of people, to be honest. Thursday, something happened that was the tip of the iceberg between Barstool business and myself. a lot of people, to be honest. Thursday, something happened that was the tip of the iceberg between Barstool business and myself. And Friday morning, I slept on it and I just decided that I wasn't going to be able to deal with it anymore. And I didn't like it because I knew that it was going
Starting point is 00:01:57 to lose our serious show. I knew that it was going to happen, but I just had to stand up basically for myself. And I released this message. I remember it like it was yesterday. Dave Portnoy to my right, big cat to my left, squished on a couch in a creepy RV in San Francisco. It was my first casting couch experience of my life and I couldn't fathom it going any better. What would follow is a beautiful friendship. Dave kept in touch with me and when he got the churning investment, he informed me that part of the reason for the investment was to acquire talent that they thought fit the brand. As a stoolie, I was excited about the offer. I pondered it a bit and then it was around Thanksgiving of my final season. I had just received another fine from management for a tweet that wasn't offensive at all
Starting point is 00:02:47 and is still on the internet today that I made the decision that the NFL wasn't for me anymore. We'll dig into that in a second. I told Dave I'm ready to walk away from $6 million-ish and make the transition to internet businessman. He was shocked but excited about it all, to say the least. We negotiated a deal that allowed me to stay in Indianapolis and about it all, to say the least. We negotiated a deal that allowed me to stay in Indianapolis and also teach me the business of the internet. Full transparency into everything. I wanted to learn from the man who transformed a newspaper
Starting point is 00:03:15 from the streets and corners of Boston to a company valued at $100 million. A few weeks later, I'd be voted into my second Pro Bowl. Had to put that in there, just to suck me off. Whenever I was typing this up, I didn't want to, but I was like, you know what? I feel like sometimes people forget. So I just had Todd. I had to do it. Then the retirement Super Bowl week. Everything was exciting and moving so fast. My friends, Diggs, Todd, Nick, who I owe the world to, joined me in creating a podcast and video content literally the next day. We hustled and built it up just watching and learning from the greatest podcast on earth, pardon my take,
Starting point is 00:04:00 which we still do to this day, by the way. The following fall, the NFL Network offered me to be on a show. I turned them down to do a college football show on Facebook with Dave Portnoy. Although I don't think the NFL will ever offer me TV time again, they did not appreciate me turning them down. Just for future reference, they did not appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Motherfuckers turning us down? That's basically how they did it, but they could have gave me a chance coming out of retirement. There was a pseudo-agent kind of sending out feelers to networks. If Pat was to retire, would you want me? Nobody bit. Now, that guy could be full of shit now, hindsight, thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:04:36 That guy had no relationship with me. He just gave me maybe bogus information, but Barstow did take a shot at me. That's why I am very grateful for that. NFL Network offered me to be on a show that upcoming fall. I turned them down to do a college football show on Facebook. Those six weeks of traveling around the country with Dave taught me a lot about the work it takes to be successful on the Internet. It never stops.
Starting point is 00:04:56 The Internet literally never stops. And that's what I learned from Dave. One of the episodes was soundless. There was actually no sound. We laughed about it and kept it moving. I wondered what the NFL Network people who watched it were like, that motherfucker turned us down for this show in the middle of Iowa with no fucking sound for 30 minutes. Made me think. We laughed about it, kept it moving. What happened after that was a true
Starting point is 00:05:21 thing of beauty. Barstool became an absolute rocket ship, a serious channel, a deal with Twitter, the ESPN cancellation, which I was in HQ for the day it happened, back to back with folks battling against everybody, rough and rowdy blowing up, the list goes on and on. With all that comes a lot of add-ons to the company. Dave and Erica were guiding a ship to a promised land, focused on what's next, and the business side of things with me became very difficult being 713 miles away. Financial decisions were being made for me by people I had never met. Deals were getting made and pooled without my knowledge.
Starting point is 00:05:55 The transparency of everything became obsolete and also very expensive. In my note, I would like everybody to know, obsolete was spelled correctly first time I tried it. Good words. No autocorrect, no Google search, obsolete, first time I type it, no red underline, nothing. Felt real good about it.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It was quite a little... Pat on the back. Pat on Pat's back. It was perfect. It felt really good. And it was true, too. The transparency became obsolete. I would get an email with a number that would just be typed in by somebody.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I'm like, where the fuck's this number? Or I'd get an email from somebody I'd never met before like, I need you to do two swipe-ups today by the end of 5 o'clock. Like, who the fuck are you? What is that? How does that even happen? And it's because the business side was growing so big. And with that being said, I do not place blame or hold any grudge towards Erica or Dave for any of this. It is below them. I began being disrespected by the business people in the
Starting point is 00:06:51 building. And I decided that I don't want to make money for those folks anymore. I'm very proud of the work I did with Barstool. I'm lucky to have called myself a peer to PFT and Big Cat, Handsome Hank, the geniuses Caleb and Rome with Buddha Ben editing the magic. Watching Robbie Fox grow has been truly fulfilling. I love that little dude. I do. He gets a lot of unwarranted hate, I think. Now granted, does he come off as a little bitch sometimes?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Absolutely. But I enjoy Robbie Fox a lot. KFC and Feidelberg were nothing but nice to me any time I was in the office. Gaz refused to give me any promotion on social media, but i will forever cherish he and i's friendship frankie's in a tough spot with tommy spokes climbing the totem pole but you two are both great dudes pizza weirdo but an incredibly talented and sweet weirdo
Starting point is 00:07:34 getting to listen to chicks in the office after my show goes off the air is a highlight of my day it's a nice it was a nice little glimpse into another world that we're not consumed by yp is the man people make fun of his eyes i don't think they should do that perk eyes came from birth i don't think he's actually doing it and the shit he's doing with barstool outdoors by the way should be very cool francis smitty carabas ridge trent nate and anybody else i missed on the content floor i love watching your incredible brains at work on a day-to-day basis also miss coley i'm a I'm a big fan of Coley. I can't believe I forgot him. I feel bad about that. I'll continue to be a
Starting point is 00:08:08 stoolie, but I'm very excited to work for myself. I have absolutely no clue what's going on or going to happen. I'm officially a free agent. It's a weird feeling. My friends and I will still make a podcast, which you are listening to, a couple of times a week and video content from my social media pages. The other folks in the Heartland office are meeting with
Starting point is 00:08:24 Dave today about a potential future at HQ. Eric and I are going to pay any of the younger folks who end up out of a job from this a check worth two months salary. Everybody that has worked at this Heartland office is good peoples. With great work ethics, I have nothing but faith for their future being an incredibly bright one. Thank you all for your time and commitment. I've loved working with all of you. The Barstow era in my life will be one I never forget. Thank you all so much for everything. I hope you have the greatest weekend of your life. P.S. K. Marco. I apologize that I never learned how to officially blog. I'm sure you would have been a cool guy to work with. And that is true. I never learned how to blog and I wasn't brought in to be a blogger. I was brought in to make shows,
Starting point is 00:09:10 podcasts, video content. It was the only reason why I was hired. Dave and Erica and I negotiated a deal where they're, we just want to help you do it. And Dave said in his press conference that I put my nuts on the table. That's true. I did. I built this office. I was willing to go 50, 50 on any dollars we were made. And with that being said, a lot of trust goes into the sales team that is happening, right? If your only money that you're making is going into the salespeople, you have to have a lot of faith in those salespeople. On that business floor, the only people we talked to, four of them got fired. Got fired or left. There was nobody else that we knew on that business
Starting point is 00:09:43 floor that talked to us. And everything just became blurry. And this is all Dave has no idea this is happening. Dave's got a serious show to run. He's got a pizza review app that he's building. He's got a lot going on the content side. Erica's job is to negotiate new deals and new things like that. There's a business floor in Barstow. It's their job to make money for people in the office.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It's their job to keep the lights on. And I didn't know any of those motherfuckers. Not a one of them. Not one. And not one of them gave a single fuck about any of us out here in Indiana. And that's not their fault. Right? These people go to Harvard.
Starting point is 00:10:16 These people go to all these big schools. They're super smart, super intelligent. There's no way that they thought these folks out in Indiana had anything to do with what Barstow was was doing and with that i just had to say you know what i don't want to make money for young motherfuckers anymore and i think it is a decision that i'll appreciate because it's starting to become a trend i said after the thanksgiving game i decided the nfl was no longer for me there was a situation with ryan grigson that occurred the Monday after the Thanksgiving game. If you do recall in the Thanksgiving game against the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Starting point is 00:10:49 we got blown the fuck out on national TV. It was the biggest turkey bowl of the day. There's people playing in towns all over the place. We would have been shut out if it wasn't for a fake punt that Antonio Brown tackled. Eric Swope at the seven or eight-yard line,
Starting point is 00:11:07 then we score a touchdown. And I obviously did the Conor McGregor, Vince McMahon walk, keep it moving. We score seven there. We end up losing by a lot. I go home afterwards, celebrate Thanksgiving with my family. I come back to work Monday. I had a sinus.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Some sinus thing happened. So I'm in to work Monday. I had a sinus, some sinus thing happened. So I'm in the training room after a lift or practice. And I walked back to the locker room. I have a, what's that stuff you take that just flushes your system? The pill, there's like four pills. Oh, the Z-Pak. Z-Pak. Yeah. So I'm on a Z-Pak and a couple other things walking out of there on that Monday. So I'm good by Wednesday's actual practice. I walk into the locker room and Grigson goes, can you come to my office? I was like, yeah, man, let me go get dressed and I'll see you. It was very positive.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Maybe this is an olive branch. Maybe this is an olive branch. If it wasn't for me, we're shut out on national TV on Thanksgiving. I'm leading the league in almost everything. I don't think I've given up a return yard in maybe two months three months at this point I'm the number two jersey seller for the Colts I mean I'm doing a lot of charity work there's a lot maybe this is Gregson being you know
Starting point is 00:12:14 I find you three to four times before about dumb shit but I would like to be friends maybe asking me for help maybe he's asking for help but to be honest I that's what in my head and I'll grant I'm on a z-packack and a couple other things, and I'd assume there's some vitamins in me as well at this moment. So I go back to my locker, I get dressed, and I go back to his office. I've been there before. This is like the principal's office at the back of the hallway, okay? So I walk in there, and he goes, sit down.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And I'm like, oh, immediately, this is not what I thought this was going to be. I had already talked to Dave, by the way. Dave already told me that they had an investment to bring people in like me whenever my playing days were over. Todd and I had already had many a discussion about retiring and creating our own app. I mean, there was already in my head me being sick of making money for Ryan Grigson and the Colts operation at the time.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So I walk in there and he goes, sit down. And it was at that moment I realized as soon as he told me the Stern sit down, I was like, yep, I'm fucking done here. So I sit down on one side of the table. He sits down on the other side of the table. He pulls a picture out that I posted before the Thanksgiving game, Thanksgiving Monday maybe. It's me standing in the equipment room on a box with an electrical outlet coming down and me holding it like this on top of the box.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Everything around it is blurred out. And it goes, I'm just waiting the wwe to give me a call to make the most electric promo since like the rock or something like that it was just a post i put on instagram no big deal keep it moving put it on twitter and put it on instagram so i sit down he has that picture on a piece of paper okay he has that picture on a piece of paper. Okay. He has that picture on a piece of paper, slams it on the desk, pushes it across the desk to me. And I look at it. And at this moment in my head, I've already said fuck it to this guy. Right. So I look at the photo. I'm like, Oh yeah. You know, I look up at him. It's like a moment of silence. He wants like that dramatic,
Starting point is 00:14:27 look up at him it's like a moment of silence he wants like that dramatic quiet so i'm like oh yeah and he goes what is that and i go uh yep posted that last week and a half ago on my uh instagram and twitter he goes where's that picture taken i said in the equipment room uh actually one of the equipment managers took the picture for me, actually. And he pulls out my contract, okay? Pulls out my contract, opens it up, goes to a clause. He goes, since this isn't your first offense, I can fine you a game check for this. Game check, by the way, you only get 17 paychecks for your entire salary. So if you want to look up what that was, it was $100,000 almost. He said, I can fine you a game check for this. I said, for what? He said, look, is that, is that a football room? I said, well, title is an equipment room. Like that's the actual
Starting point is 00:15:17 title is that it's a, it's an equipment room. It actually, it's an equipment room. He goes, is that a football room? I said, equipment room footballs are in there i guess he goes why do you have to be such a smart ass i go me and he goes yeah i could find you anything i want this is why we're losing by the way this is why we lost to the steelers he tells me so at this moment i had decided that it is time to no longer sit back and take this. This has been the fourth, fifth time the guy has called me into his office and fined me for something I found very stupid. So I clearly lifted up the photo that he had of me. I put it next to me.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I said, you paid a guy $140 million, and you can't keep him healthy. Your offensive line swished cheese. He's blown out his shoulder three times, and you're worried about this bullshit? And he goes, what did you just say to me? I go, oh, yeah. I mean, I'm best in the game at what I do. I wish you would do the same.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So this is a moment that he did not expect. This is a moment that he did not expect, right? He goes, you're going to walk into my office and disrespect me. I go, well, you called me in here, right? You called me into here. He said, I'm going to find you a whole game check. I said, cool, bro. And literally walked out of his office. As I'm walking out, he gives me the, get out of my office. I'm like, already walking out. Already, hey, already out of the office cuz already out so i shut the door behind me grigson's assistant is like she's been around since before grigson gets there she knows me she's like what happened i was like some bullshit so i walked down the hallway
Starting point is 00:16:57 and chuck pagano's office is right there right and i go hey if you had anything to do with that you can go fuck yourself too just like i told gr told Grigson. He was like, what? He's like, what are you talking about? You can go fuck yourself, too, Chuck. And he was like, what just happened? I was like, fuck you. Right? Because I thought him and Grigson were.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Poor Chuck, bro. He's sitting there. Chuck had no idea. Told him to go fuck himself like three times. Right? So then I leave. I leave the building. I walk out.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Tom McMahon, my special teams coach, sees me like furious. He's like, what happened? I'm like, fuck you like fuck you too right everybody can get it at this moment so i get a text from tom mcmahon's like i have no clue what happened uh but let's just get back to work on wednesday you're killing it right now no need to worry so then i get a call from chuck right and chuck goes i i did not know that was happening i am so sorry And I'm like Chuck listen man And I read off all the things that I was doing for that team For the team And I told Chuck on that phone call
Starting point is 00:17:50 I said I just don't feel like You guys Appreciate or are grateful For what I'm doing for you You don't put any value on what I've done For you You don't put any value on Because in the
Starting point is 00:18:05 locker room, we had a up and down team, a young team. I feel like I was pretty valuable in the locker room. I was doing my job to my best ability. I showed up every day to work. I was never late. I sat in the front row of meetings. I was like anything at work. I busted my dick off because I wanted to be able to talk. And as a punter, you have to be good to talk. You can't just suck and talk so i told chuck that was the conversation after after chuck like called me he was like i don't know anything about this blah blah blah blah blah so i told him i say hey man i just don't think i don't think the nfl is for me anymore and to be honest i don't want to make money for you guys
Starting point is 00:18:38 anymore and i'm done i am done after this season is I'll finish this season because I'm probably going to make another Pro Bowl, which is a $250,000 bonus. But I am done. And this type of feeling, it's going to be the death of me. And I told Dave that whenever I called him. I was like, Dave, because Dave wanted me to come back. He was like, we'll get the money. We'll transfer the
Starting point is 00:19:00 money over there. We're talking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars being pulled directly out of the Barstool Heartland account two days before they're supposed to get activated. And I just couldn't sleep. I couldn't sleep. And Dave was like, let me make it right. I'll make, Dave was very nice to this whole thing. And Dave sold the company so he didn't have to handle the business side, by the way. Dave was very nice. Let me make it up to you. And by that point, I was already like, man, I don't want to make money for the business people.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Just like whenever I got to that point, as soon as he said, sit down in the chair to me, I was like, I don't want to fucking make money for this guy anymore. And it'll be the death of me. It honestly will be. But at least I sleep good at night. Except for last night, I'm fucking excited. Tom McAfee Show 2.0 it is september 4th this is a rebirth i'm very thankful for everything barstow did for me dave and erica
Starting point is 00:19:52 are incredible people i will be very uh friendly with them i will still talk to them it's just that business floor i don't know if they didn't know our arrangement or if they just didn't care. And I'm thinking it was the second one. They're just trying to get money however they get it. But for me, it's time for us to kind of do our fucking thing. So the Pat McAfee Show will be every Tuesday, Thursday at noon. Heartland Radio hosted by Todd. All of us Monday, Wednesday coming out at noon.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And Beat Pat McAfee brought to you by our studio sponsor. The company that got pulled two days before it was supposed to get activated. The reason why the Thursday conversation happened with Barstool, my bookie has jumped in and been a partner for us to really keep this thing going. They're sponsoring our studio. They're sponsoring Beat Pat McAfee. They're sponsoring Quick Hits with Diggs. They basically said, hey hey this is a personal relationship
Starting point is 00:20:45 they flew out here by the way that's why whenever the deal got pulled i knew exactly what it was because i was a part of negotiating it with the my bookie people they're like hey listen just because you're not with barstow anymore doesn't change anything with us we still want to be in the pat mcafee business and i said i'm not going to have a serious show that's 15 hours of live radio a week that we're not going to have. They said, we don't care. We'll figure it out. And I was like, thank you so much. So ladies and gentlemen, Pat McAfee Show 2.0, September 4th,
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Starting point is 00:22:06 Go ahead and bet the over or under on that. I'll have five minutes. The clock will be on Zito's bare chest. Right there, it'll be streaming live. You'll get to see your number. I think this is going to be an easy over bet. I think you hammer the over here. So not only does my bookie
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Starting point is 00:22:38 And I cannot thank them. I was on a hike with my lady. I was on a hike with my lady in the middle of the woods. I've been watching too many documentaries, thought I was going to get my fucking throat slit while with my lady in the middle of the woods. I've been watching too many documentaries. Thought I was going to get my fucking throat slit while we're out in the middle of these woods. And all of a sudden I get a text from the MyBookie guys like, you free for a call right now?
Starting point is 00:22:52 I'm like, yup. And right in the middle of the goddamn woods on a bench, like on the top of Indiana Mountain, we negotiated a deal and here we are. So very thankful for the MyBookie and MyBookie Studio. With that being said, thank you at Todd McComas, sticking around, riding out the wave with the Pat McAfee Inc.,
Starting point is 00:23:09 your Pat McAfee show. Thank you. At Diggs with a Z. Scoops Diggs, by the way, has news to break today. I do. At Nick Morado, at Viva Lozito, at Ty Schmidt, at Evan Foxey. Very, very lucky for this group, and we cannot wait to grow and build. With that being said, let's have a fucking show.
Starting point is 00:23:24 What's going on in the world, Diggs? and we cannot wait to grow and build. With that being said, let's have a fucking show. What's going on in the world, Diggs? So huge news yesterday and today, this morning, was that Colin Kaepernick is the face of Nike's 30th anniversary Just Do It campaign. The campaign slogan is Believe in Something. Even if it means sacrificing everything, some people are happy, some people aren't. Wild reaction on the internet, Dicks.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Wild. People are burning their Nike stuff. Yep. This is... Nike had to have known... By the way, this is a big fuck you from Nike to the NFL. Oh, yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 00:23:54 One week out, by the way. With the lawsuit going on. One week out, a big fuck you to the NFL. And they're the official sponsor. Isn't Nike winning that, though? Because everyone bought those shoes already? Yes. But stock, though. You've got to think about stock.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And I think this is the very interesting thing. They're still trending right now and probably will be trending for two more days. Darren Revelle said it was the first time he had like 10,000 responses to a tweet. It had 100,000 retweets or something like that. Just a polarizing situation. It almost feels like Nike had to have known what was coming. Oh, they knew for sure and i was once a nike athlete i would like oh yeah i was once a nike athlete nice so nike under armor
Starting point is 00:24:33 it was reebok back in the day they all have these like uh little sales people that come to the locker room they try to win you over you know shake your hand you want to be a nike athlete i'm like yeah they're like okay this is what we can give you. We can give you $1,000 in merch. I'm like, what does that mean? You can only wear Nike gloves? This was when Reebok had the deal. You can only wear Nike shoes. You can only wear Nike gloves.
Starting point is 00:24:56 We'll give you $1,000 this year in merch. You go to NikeElite.com. And they had Cole Hawn at the time, too. So they had golf, Cole Hawn, and Nike at the time. And everybody around me, I was friends, you got to remember, I was friends with Peyton, Joseph Adai, Clint Session, all these guys, big money guys. They all have these huge Nike deals, huge Reebok deals,
Starting point is 00:25:13 and they're just raking in cash. And then they come up to me, punter, not really good either at the time. Here's $1,000 in merch. You come into NikeElite.com, you sign in, you can get $1,000 taxed, by the way. Plus, that's getting taxed on the back end. So it's actually like $600 worth of merch.
Starting point is 00:25:30 We'll sign you to a three-year deal. Next year will be $2,500, and then the year after that will be $5,000. Ooh, escalators. Huh? You see that? You stick with us. Sounds good.
Starting point is 00:25:40 In there somewhere, okay, I had like a year left, so I guess it's the second year. Phil Knight goes and speaks at Joe Paterno's funeral. Yeah. Okay? This was right after finding out that Joe Paterno had harbored a pedophile for like 13 years.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Joe knew. Joe did know. Joe knew. And the sheeple will say he didn't, but he did. He did. Just like this fucking pope, by the way. His ass is in the jackpot. This pope is in a bad spot for sure but joe knew
Starting point is 00:26:07 right so i send this letter to the sales guy the nike sales guy i go uh not that you guys having child labor create the shoes that i'm wearing not that you only gave me a thousand dollars last year when all my friends have like a $20,000 deal. But the fact that Phil Knight went and spoke at Joe Paterno's funeral makes me never want to wear Nike again. I would like to opt out of my final deal or final year of my Nike deal.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Send it. I get a response back. Yeah, no problem. From the guy. He was literally back. Yeah, no problem. From the guy. He was literally like, yeah, no problem. Determinated. See you later.
Starting point is 00:26:52 One year later, Nike becomes the official sponsor of fucking the NFL. So I have to wear Nike everything anyways. So I took this big grandstand about how no way, $5,000 in free merch isn't going to win me over for what you did for the pedophile harborer.
Starting point is 00:27:08 No way. And then one year later, they're the official sponsor of Nike, and I have to wear fucking Nike everything. And Under Armour won't sponsor, nobody will sponsor me. So now I have no shoe deal. That's why my shoes were always blacked out if you ever watched it. So I would like to say that as an athlete who's been dropped by Nike, okay, who quit Nike without them caring,
Starting point is 00:27:29 Nike knows what they're doing. Every single thing that they do. Nike, you don't get to the top of the fucking mountain for no reason. Nike knows exactly what they're doing every single time they operate. They knew this was going to be huge. And now it's just a wait and see game to see what the fuck happens. What like Todd,
Starting point is 00:27:46 for instance, old white guy, middle of America, was in the Marines, was a state police. You are the perfect human to ask like, how do you feel about this? It won't make me stop wearing Nike shit. It's so good. Their
Starting point is 00:28:02 shit's so good. Adidas is really good by the way. But I think when you look at who else you could have picked, I think it's a bad choice. Yeah, sacrifice everything is an interesting word, strictly because whenever you talk about some risk, some sacrifice at all is basically a quote that is thrown around on Memorial Day and things like that. I think that the way they word it,
Starting point is 00:28:24 now granted, they meant for it to be like that. But I think they wanted it to be political. They wanted it to do that. Yeah, and that's what I don't like about it. Now my fucking shoe company is getting political. Damn, can we keep politics out of something? It's interesting, isn't it, though? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Because politics is in its way. And I think if you you can bash trump for a lot of the stupid shit that he said but what he has done is made politics everything back in the day there were politics wasn't everything right now it's everything every single thing that happens is politics that's a good point because that's what's supposed to be beautiful about sports is escape It's an escape from politics and racial issues and all those things. Now, that's
Starting point is 00:29:09 no longer a thing. By the way, I think what Colin Kaepernick did raised a lot of conversations that needed to happen in America. I just don't know what the end game is. I wore Adidas shoes today. Not even thinking about it because they're brand new. These Hoos here. All white Hoos shoes today not even thinking about it because they're brand new these hoos here
Starting point is 00:29:25 all white hoos didn't even think about it but now I'm scared that somebody's going to tell me like oh you're pro racial injustice I'm like no no no Pharrell made these fucking shoes he's a black guy let's not get crazy Kanye's with Adidas Kanye I mean let's just
Starting point is 00:29:42 let's create you know let's create so I want that to be known but I'm scared that's just, let's create, you know, let's create. So I want that to be known, but I'm scared that's what it's going to turn into. I hope not. I'm scared that's what it's going to turn into. And it's just, it's a weird world we live in, bro. That took over everything, though. That shit was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Which is what Nike, that's a marketing campaign. Yeah. You know what I mean? I just love the fact that Nike's telling the NFL To go fuck off Straight to their face You already took our money Because they're bigger than them You think
Starting point is 00:30:09 Nike's bigger than the NFL As far as I looked it up this morning I can't remember the fucking numbers I wish I would've wrote it down Like money wise Yeah money wise Nike is bigger than the NFL
Starting point is 00:30:16 Really Yeah You got 32 billionaires Coming together I know I looked it up last year So just in sales I was seeing how close Adidas was in North America
Starting point is 00:30:25 because Adidas is climbing each year closer to Nike in North America. So last year. Oh, I can't wait for every old white guy. Oh, give me them Yeezys. He said he liked Trump, right? Give me them Yeezys. Just in North America, Nike did $15.2 billion in revenue in North America and Adidas did $5.1 billion.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So Nike is still fucking king. Worldwide. They can make them. I don't know what it was worldwide. I couldn't find those numbers. But just in America, they made $15.2 billion. So how long? I wonder how long the Nike NFL deal is.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Because that is a direct spit in the NFL's face. It is. And the NFL owners and Roger Goodell don't normally just look what happened with Tom Brady. They viewed that as a spit in the face, basically, a disrespect. I mean, we just had a whole opening about disrespect, but that's kind of how the NFL, I think, is going to view this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And I'll be excited to see what happens from it all. I'll be excited to see what happens. It says in March that the NFL and Nike signed an eight-year deal for the uniforms. So Nike's good imagine that annual meeting that they have where all those sales reps the guy that told me yeah no problem we don't fucking want you anyway all from all the teams they all meet up at the summit with all the nfl owners and all of them are just sitting on one side of the table and then all the
Starting point is 00:31:40 nike people are sitting on the other side and j Jerry Jones is like, lifting up, cocksucker. We had a little thing going there, and then you fucked it all up. Now, what's sad, though, Serena Williams, also a part of this campaign. There's numerous other people that are part of this campaign. No, it's not sad. Serena Williams probably has $400 million,
Starting point is 00:32:00 and she married the guy that started Reddit. Follows me on Twitter. Shout out to him and her. Congrats on the baby. Good mom stuff. I think you should have been allowed to wear the Catwoman's or Batwoman's suit, whatever it is. But it really took over the world yesterday.
Starting point is 00:32:14 The NFL is a topic of discussion. Do you think all the NFL lawyers are looking through the contract right now to drop Nike? Oh, yeah. Conduct detrimental to the – this is what Grigson used to give me for every fine. Conduct detrimental to the team. Conduct detrimental. Like that fine he gave me was for 15 grand asked michael cole for 16 grand by the way the first time i fucking went and worked for them so that comes full circle i can imagine the nike like buyout plan is like triple like 30 billion dollars whatever like if they get dropped
Starting point is 00:32:39 and they're trying to get dropped right now they literally just look 32 billionaires right in the eye and said, fuck you. You've got to respect it. At some level, you have to respect it, no matter what side you're on. No matter what side you're on. You have to respect them literally staring down the pipe at the NFL just being like, hey, eat shit, by the way. We've decided. There's a lawsuit happening.
Starting point is 00:33:01 That's the main thing I thought that would keep something like this from happening is that collusion lawsuit thing. That's moving forward, too. I just announced last week it's moving forward. I will still wear Nike shoes, mostly because I enjoy their designs. They're comfy. They're very comfy. But I can see that there's going to be people that are pissed off about this. Yeah, there will be people that totally boycott Nike.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah. Because they already are. They're burning their shoes. Yeah. Which, you know, maybe we just donate them. Something to think about. Yeah. But I saw a lot of those shoes,
Starting point is 00:33:32 and they looked like the Nike shoes that are like $39.99. Yeah, exactly. The Air Max shoes. Not the ones that are $200. The Spice Adam dad. The Monarchs. Yeah, the Monarch dads. I think Nike realized the people that they would piss off
Starting point is 00:33:45 are not the majority of the people that buy Nike. People are going to pay less just to get Nikes to burn. This is risk assessment, isn't it, for Nike? It's a real risk assessment situation. They're like, because in the meeting, they have a big projector. This is what we're thinking. And there's some people in the room that are like, no.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And then there's other people who are like why i feel like we're gonna get pissed off a lot of people like yeah but are they are demographic anyways correct exactly this is gonna sound really petty but like i just wish kaepernick were a better football player because i i do like side with the issues that he's you's trying to raise awareness for. I just wish he was better. I mean, he's a good enough player to be on a fucking team. There's a lot of dog shit quarterbacks on TV. Boy, I just wish he was dominant.
Starting point is 00:34:34 He did get benched for Blaine Gabbert, right? Does that know what happened at the season that he started this kneeling thing all started? He was sitting down, by the way, before Nate Boyer, who is a Green Beret, told him to kneel instead of sit down because he was less disrespectful to the military. And this all could have ended very quickly if both sides would have just talked to each other about what it's about and what it's not about. But that's not the way the world works.
Starting point is 00:34:58 The way the world works is everybody wants to see everybody burn down. I mean, that's just the way it operates. That's why, by the way, I think me and Barstow sports split being amicable was very wild to people to see yeah i think you don't see that very often because it was just literally a communication failure probably on both sides but it was just like yeah we're off and running but with um kaepernick he got benched for blaine gabbert but now anytime a bad player bad quarterback gets on a team it's very hard not to just be like kaepernick's better than this fucking guy exactly yeah kaepernick's better than this fucking guy and then you gotta weigh in the tim tebow issue too right just like tim tebow
Starting point is 00:35:35 tim tebow was such a headache and if he was going to be a back uh backup quarterback people like we don't want to deal with this tebow and that's the super christian espn super push media circus no matter what right it's all everything is risk assessment that is really michael peterson said that on the staircase and i've never heard something more accurate it is it is whether or not a team wants to deal with everything that's going to come with it but if you go strictly football player wise you have to assume he's better than a lot of the guys playing quarterback in the NFL right now. Have to.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Have to. Speaking of good in the NFL, yo, Khalil Mack got broken the fuck off. Yeah, he did. He did, didn't he? Yeah, he deserves it. Gruden said we were no— What did Gruden say?
Starting point is 00:36:22 I just looked it up. Hold on, I think we have Coach Gruden here. Do we not have Coach Gruden in we were – what did Gruden say? I just looked it up. Hold on. I think we have Coach Gruden here. Do we not have Coach Gruden in the back tie? I don't know since we're no longer affiliated with Barstool. No, he rides with the Pat McAfee show. Well, tell him I saw that hat he was wearing in his press conference too. Real hip of him to wear that hat. Real cool.
Starting point is 00:36:40 He said something along the lines of he was asked about the Khalil Mack situation. He said something along the lines of he was asked about the Khalil Mack situation. And if you do recall, at the beginning of training camp, whenever Khalil Mack started the sit-out, he talked about how his defense was terrible. The Raiders' defense was bad last year with Khalil Mack. Shots fired, babe. Yeah, yeah. As soon as he gets there, shots fired at a former defensive player of the year, by the way,
Starting point is 00:37:04 in one of his first three years in the league. And then yesterday he was asked after the Bears break off Khalil Mack. John Gruden said, is he back there? If he could just say it for us, that'd be great so we don't have to rip it off somebody else. Yeah, Ty Zeebecker? I don't believe we were anywhere close to where the Bears were, man. The Bears made us an offer that we thought was really unique and very, very tough to say goodbye to a great player, but here we are today.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Gruden, Coach, I think you actually said one time, we were nowhere near what the Bears were. Are you ever going to release what you guys tried to offer a former defensive player of the year? Well, you know, we might, man, but the fact of the matter is we didn't have the cash flow. Me and Mark may have went to P.F. Chang's one too many times in the offseason. We couldn't pay
Starting point is 00:37:51 the guy what he wanted to. Thanks, Coach. Good luck out there, by the way. Hey, appreciate it. You too, man. Seems like it could be burning down around you. I'm not sure. Because he said he also said, what, 90 million guaranteed is wild. He's got 100 million guaranteed. That's a wild thing for a guy that's worth 100 million guaranteed to say.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Just zero self-awareness over there from Gruden. I just don't understand how you don't pay him. Man, they went scorched earth, too. I mean, who else? They cut Martavis Bryant. He has a suspension coming up, right? Yeah, apparently it's under appeal, so the suspension is looming, and they know that's coming.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Is he getting picked up anywhere? Watch the Patriots pick his fucking ass up. It's only a matter of time. He hasn't been picked up yet. I mean, so his last suspension, he was suspended for a year. I don't even know if he gets caught again. Is it another year? Is it even longer than a fucking year?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Do you know? Yeah, if you get caught again, it's like it's a – did you see out a year last time? Oh, yeah. I think it's two years. Yeah, I mean, so. He's going to CFL. Cousy coming in with the XFL.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He can't. Or no, no, you know, he'd never, yeah, you're right. He was never arrested. Never arrested, just weed. Yeah, yeah. Vince McMahon, oh, shit, they smoke all the time. You know? Hey, Zito, that Bears defense is young and going to be very good.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I don't think it's this year. That's a game changer for you guys. I don't think it's this year, but the next two or three. Earl Ecker said it. We need a Bears defense back, and it's coming back. Well, he said Lovey Smith, too. He's not coming back, unfortunately. What an incredible stacked team all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Do you like giving up two first-round picks for a player? You're never going to find somebody like Khalil Mack in the first round. Generational talent. Yeah, you'll just get lucky. It's like whenever I, as a person who played eight years in the league, whenever I seen so many misses, and now granted that might have been with the GM that we just spoke about earlier, I saw so many
Starting point is 00:39:45 misses where if we would have traded that first pick or second pick for other than trent richardson but for like an established player at least you know what you're getting it's like okay we're getting a lock we're gonna get uh 10 sacks from this in your first round pick will the guy become somebody like kil Mack? Possibly. Who knows? But right now, you are getting that. And there's so many moves you can make to get first round picks back, by the way.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I'm all about building the team now. Gloria had a really good analogy this morning. He's like, basically, you traded a lottery ticket that you knew was a winner for two lottery tickets that you have to scratch off that you have no fucking clue if they're going to be winners or not. I'm a big fan of the making moves thing. Now, granted, if the people fit the culture, you can't just bring in a bunch of jackasses. But I guess Khalil Mack is well liked. Also, the Bears got a second round pick back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah. Yeah. Gruden's dealing. Hey, Gruden, where'd you make that deal? Where were you sitting at when you made that deal? I was in a Hooters bar. I'd had a couple Heinekens and I just said, fuck it, man. I was ready to kill it.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Gruden's going to get fired in like three years, and then be back in the booth like, this fucking league, it's different now. Never would have seen it coming, by the way. I saw this over the weekend. I want to use your take on this. I thought this was interesting. The list of players traded for two first round picks. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Jay Cutler. Nailed it. Ricky Williams. It's like the Bears are involved in it all. They were both proven players when they were traded. Keyshawn Johnson. Ricky Williams, he was the one that negotiated his own deal, right? Coming out of college?
Starting point is 00:41:21 I don't know. No. Was that with the Saints? Yes. He was at the Saints first, yes. Yeah, he negotiated his own deal with Master P. He didn't want to get paid until he hit a certain amount of respect. Yeah, it was all, which I do.
Starting point is 00:41:34 It was what I did with Barstool, by the way. He was a different thinker. Ricky was a different thinker. Different. He retired early, too. Well, he disappeared. Yeah, yeah, it was weird. Into the mountains.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Hey, cuz, I love vitamins, too, but let's not just disappear into the woods. That contract is called the worst of any NFL player in history. Yeah, he negotiated himself in Master P, obviously. Master P could have made the NBA people forget. Master P. Yeah. Ricky Williams. Jake Cutler.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Keyshawn Johnson. Was he good? Yeah. Yeah. I only remember Keyshawn Johnson. Was he good? Yeah. I only remember Keyshawn from TV where he was not good. He was really good when he was on the Jets and then the Bucs game. That was that trade. Is that where Gruden was at?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Was Gruden there when that happened? I hope so. Is Gruden just a two first round trade son of a bitch? Good for him. I don't like these young guys, man. Get rid of them. I guess he just picked up two more first-rounders. They're going to trade that for a big player, though.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I mean, they're fucked. The Raiders are fucked. Why? They don't have anyone on defense. Yeah, this year I think they're mailing it in. They're going to Vegas when? 2020, I think. Oh, shit. So Oakland's going to be pissed off with them for the next couple years. And they keep saying they don't have the cash. They didn't have the cash to pay Khalil Mack, even though they just grew $100 million.
Starting point is 00:42:48 That's a salary cap. No, no, no. They're saying the actual cash. Nothing to do with cash to actually pay him. They don't have liquid assets. They don't have enough liquid assets to pay. Oh, that is hysterical. Even though, aren't they getting a billion dollars from the taxpayers of Vegas to
Starting point is 00:43:04 like... Bro, is this the first time you've heard an NFL team be like, we'd like to Even though, are they getting a billion dollars from the taxpayers of Vegas? Bro, is this the first time you've heard an NFL team be like, we'd like to. Yeah, and then I read a bunch of reports like, that's a fucking lie. Because even the lowest of teams that have liquid assets, or the lowest liquid asset teams, have enough fucking money to pay. That Coliseum is a shithole. I mean, it's an incredible atmosphere. Which means they're not paying dick for it, I assume. They haven't renovated in a while. Well, you got to think about real estate, though,
Starting point is 00:43:27 over there in Northern California. But that place is a shithole. Best environment I've ever been a part of, though. Best environment. They were playing for the playoffs. That was when Carr was really juiced. It was the day before Christmas, and Trent Cole fucking broke Derek Carr's leg.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Started getting death threats and shit. They were talking about Derek Carr being MVP there for a while. That place was rocking. Shithole. Absolute shithole of a place. But they had a DJ up there that was only playing Oakland music. Love that. There was a weed haze above the stadium.
Starting point is 00:44:01 They were tailgating before throwing shit at a bus on the way in. It was everything you would want from the black hole. That experience, I will never forget it. I got tackled for a gain of zero at Hockey was called a fumble. Fuck him, it wasn't. But it was an awesome, awesome environment. But that place is a shittle.
Starting point is 00:44:18 So maybe they don't have any money. Maybe Al Davis is paying Gruden. Maybe in 10 years, he'll pay Gruden. Like, hey, after we get to Vegas, and we get some cash, maybe we get a loan. What if he gets a line of credit from some fucking casino? This might be a dumb question.
Starting point is 00:44:34 That's why it's only a question. Is there any reason, though, to pay the top defensive player in the league that much money if your defense sucks with or without him? I don't know. Like, do you try to just rebuild? I don't know. I don't know, dude. I have no i don't know it's like i don't know dude i have no idea the reason why the bears can pay him the bears are trying to hope uh it's i i think it's like a seattle situation where they made that run seattle made that run like where
Starting point is 00:44:58 ross was still on his rookie quarterback so they're hoping that trubisky works out he doesn't have to be as good as Russell Wilson, but maybe just – I mean, I don't remember what Russell Wilson did this senior year. Zito, what's that all about right there? He just took shots at Mitchell Trubisky right there. Mitchell will talk his talent. I actually don't know. I have no –
Starting point is 00:45:15 Talk his talent? I had so many people saying, like, oh, this – everyone in Green Bay is shitting their pants. Like, not really. Like, I don't – I mean, it makes them better, but – Well, Green Bay will be better, obviously, but definitely there's something to be afraid of. The Bears are still a year away.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yeah, I know. That's what I just said. But they still have that rookie contract, quarterback contract, that they can build around. And they just paid Derek Carr, didn't they? Didn't Derek Carr get paid on race? Yeah, I think he's scheduled to make like $25 million this year or something. It's very difficult to pay a lot of people whenever you have to pay your quarterback.
Starting point is 00:45:43 That's why the whole Seattle system, just like we blew it with luck. Like we had to set up possibly with luck. We blew it. They did it in Seattle. It's going to be tough if quarterbacks continue to take a higher and higher percentage of the salary cap, which is going to happen. Salary cap goes up. Quarterback salaries go up.
Starting point is 00:46:02 If that continues to happen, I think you're going to see a lot of teams kind of... That's what happened in Baltimore. When they had to pay Flacco, they had to start trading off players and cutting guys. In Philly, it's going to happen too when they got to pay once. Exactly. Who's going to play? He's not. No, Foles was named. Doug Peterson went after the Philadelphia media. He's been pissed
Starting point is 00:46:20 for the last few weeks. Bro, with a visor, good hair comes in, fires at the fucking media. Thank you guys for putting words in my mouth. And then there's some little nerdy reporter. What is that? Doug Peters is like, shut the fuck up. So Carson has not taken one snap this whole preseason?
Starting point is 00:46:36 No, no, no, no. I don't even know if he's been cleared yet. In games? I'm assuming in practice he's been doing stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's been videos of him pregame doing his fucking drop back and moving around in the pocket and shit like that. I think we all agree, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's been videos of him pregame doing his fucking drop back and moving around in the pocket and shit like that. I think we all agree with this, though. Thursday cannot come soon enough.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Oh, man. Cannot wait for it. College football wasn't bad, by the way. No. We'll get into that in a second. I think, Diggs, you're a college football gambler, so you know what happened. We'll get into that in a little bit.
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Starting point is 00:49:51 Nice to have them back. Patrick! It is very great to have them back. What's up, Diggs? I have breaking news. Scoops! Bro. We got just a fucking happy song.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Scoop Stiggs, what do you got? Not my scoop, unfortunately. This came from Steelers GM Kevin Colbert. He just put out a statement. Le'Veon Bell has informed us that he will not be reporting for week one game versus Browns. As per his holdout situation, they're going to roll with James Conner in week one. Wow. Let's get a Yenzer take real quick.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I don't care. Back to the show. He's a fucking liar. He said he's going to be back. He said he's going to be back week one, just like last year, and have the best fucking season of his career. He's a fucking liar. The agent told us. The agent told us he's going to have the best year.
Starting point is 00:50:40 If you look at last year, he wasn't off to a slow start. They just weren't giving him the ball as much. This year, he was planning on coming in and crushing Diggs. How does this make you feel as a super Yinzer big time stealer? Not happy. Not fucking thrilled, to be honest with you. Why would he do that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:53 So I'm going to need your insight here. He hasn't signed his franchise tender. So him holding out, what is that even doing for him? Because the Steelers can't negotiate a new contract for him right now, right? Nope. Nor can they trade him until he signs that tender. Nor can they fine him, by the way, because he's just kind of in a no-man's land. But if he's missing week one, he's definitely missing that money from the franchise tag, right?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Yeah, I don't know. Because once you sign a franchise tag, it's fully guaranteed. Correct. So the franchise tag is fully guaranteed no matter what. So does this take one-seventeenth out of his franchise tag? I don't know, because once you sign a franchise tag, it's fully guaranteed. Correct. So the franchise tag is fully guaranteed no matter what. So does this take one-seventeenth out of his franchise tag? I don't think it would, by the way. Now, granted, there's probably some asterisks all over the place. I don't think this has happened often, by the way.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I think it's a fully guaranteed contract as soon as you sign a franchise tag, no matter what. Really? I think. Let me find out let me it's kind of like carson palmer did too carson palmer retired yeah so like levihan has to retire and then next year he'd come back in the league uh yeah because his contract would be up he would nobody would own his rights after this year franchise tag technically means the steelers own his rights for this season but if he doesn't sign it i think he's just kind of like uh just
Starting point is 00:52:03 floating in space but as a franchise former player, as soon as that thing was put in front of me, I was told you're a guaranteed $2.4 million. I signed that thing at a sushi restaurant in Hermosa Beach. As soon as that thing got printed out, printed out, signed it, picture, send that shit back, we're getting millions. Excuse me, do you guys have a printer? That really happened that actually happened that actually happened i was a trip hail i'll never forget i was a trip hail we
Starting point is 00:52:32 were at a bar i got a text message it was like uh the quotes of franchise tagged you i'm like awesome what does that mean well we got that whenever we were in canada i go to california as soon as we get back from canada they're like, the franchise tag, the whole thing has been drawn up or whatever. I'm like, perfect. Email it to me at the bar I'm at with TripHill. I go back into their computer, log into my email, print it out, sign it, take a picture, send it back. We're locked
Starting point is 00:52:56 in. I would like to buy 200 shots. Were they sake bombs too? I'm assuming it was a sushi place. I'm assuming it was sake bombs. I'd like to buy it for everybody in here. I just became a millionaire. This is assuming it was a sushi place. I'm assuming it was sake bombs. I'd like to buy it for everybody in here. I just became a millionaire. This is a pretty cool little moment here.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Everybody can eat a dick. What are you looking up, Diggs? I'm trying to find out because I thought I saw like worst case scenario. This was like doomsday scenario. Before it was like week six or week eight he could show up. And still be fully guaranteed. Let's assume it's half. Let's assume it's less than half.
Starting point is 00:53:30 What if he puts out another rep? This one hurts. Because all was going to be forgiven in my mind if two six showed up week one. I don't care if you skip camp. I don't care if you miss practice. You know that guy's going to be good. You know he's going to be ready to play when he shows up. If he's not showing up until week six, that's tough to swallow.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Pittsburgh's going to hate him. He's going to get booed. It's like in the NBA. You know how if somebody gets a ball, the whole place boos? I feel like that could possibly happen at Heinz Field. While he's running for like 150 yards, 200 yards, every time he gets – Pittsburgh is not a place. Will he care? Probably not, but it doesn't do him any favors.
Starting point is 00:54:04 James Conner is like one of the most likable guys on the planet. Yeah, what if he blows it up? Beat cancer. Guy beat cancer in Pittsburgh. Like everybody in Pittsburgh's like, who gives a fuck
Starting point is 00:54:15 about the strip club rappers? We got a guy that beat cancer right here who's at work. That's why that agent, when he talked to us, I feel like he lied to us, didn't he? I feel like he lied to us. He could have told us that Le'Veon was going to skip the first week.
Starting point is 00:54:31 We could have had the big scoops. Scoops could have been scoops. I know. But instead, he got a DM earlier today saying he's coming Wednesday. Diggs was all excited, by the way. I want to let everybody know, Diggs got a DM this morning from a guy named Joe. Literally, some schmo named Joe says, if it means anything, just did a fantasy football draft with Le'Veon Bell.
Starting point is 00:54:49 He's reporting on Wednesday. Isn't that what the message said to you? Yeah, yeah. Diggs was like, can't wait to break this news today. I was like, oh. Marquise Pouncey said the same thing. Yeah, my sources keep fucking me. Made him look like a dummy, too.
Starting point is 00:54:59 So the one thing the Steelers can do, I don't think it makes sense to them. They can rescind the tag, which – Oh, then he's a free agent. Then anybody can pick him. Okay, so there is a scenario where he could possibly end up on another team. Yeah, I was watching – I was watching Florio this morning. I'll tell you what. The Colts pick up Lev Bell because he sits out.
Starting point is 00:55:19 We would gladly take employee 2-6 here in Indianapolis. Week four, by the way. See, that's – the Steelers, if they do that, that's just absolute piss-poor management, and that's letting the pride get ahead of you. You've got to at least wait then. You make him sign it in week 6 or 8 or whatever it is, and trade him as soon as he signs then.
Starting point is 00:55:36 You can't lose him for nothing. What you're listening to is real resent right now. No, we're scrambling. No, I understand it. I get it from 2-6's point of view, but at the same time, I'm a big fan of it. I do it in hockey all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You can't lose an asset for nothing. I also see what you're saying. That's a guy who's worth two first round picks. Yes, there it is. See, there's another guy. That's another guy, if I was running a G,
Starting point is 00:56:00 now granted, will he show up? If I trade two first rounders and he decides not to show up, that's an interesting roll of the dice. But there's a guy you know, if you just look at his stats and let his agent tell you, he is only getting better and better and better. This is a Michigan State guy, by the way, Foxy.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I know. Fucking Michigan State guy. It's sad to see, actually. I didn't think he'd be like this. I'm going to be on your guys' side. Yeah. You didn't? What made you think that?
Starting point is 00:56:23 What could have possibly made you think that? I just think he's a good guy. Yikes. He maybe is, though, by the way. We don't know. This is all business, by the way. This is all business. Now, granted, business is the reason why this show is happening and releasing at noon.
Starting point is 00:56:39 By the way, Tuesday, Thursday at noon. How far into this thing are we? About an hour. Okay, I want to do something. Dig, say a word right now. Yup. Okay. Tweet me with the hashtag PMS2.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Use an actual point and zero. I know the hashtag will stop after that. Hashtag PMS2.0 with the word that Diggs just said. First person to tweet us that wins a hmm what should they win? Maybe 50, no
Starting point is 00:57:15 $100 Visa card. For anything you want. Anything you want. $100 Visa card. First person to tweet hashtag PMS 2.0. What is it, Biggs? Yup.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Y-U-P. Yup. One P? Maybe three Ps. There it is. Y-U-P-P-P. Hashtag PMS 2.0. This is going to be something that's going to happen every show,
Starting point is 00:57:40 whether it's merch, gift card like this, things like that, because as soon as it comes out at noon, I would enjoy enjoy i would think if you guys listen and let's win let's do this together because there's a lot of give and take here like us recording the show this morning and releasing at noon i'll be able to tweet with people while the show's going on i'm very excited for this whole thing uh heartland radio monday wednesday we'll be doing the same thing whether it's our new merch line that's going to be launching, I think, in next week, I believe we're launching a merch line. It's only like two shirts. So I don't know if it's a line.
Starting point is 00:58:11 It's more like a colon. You're going to start somewhere. They're the best two shirts of all time, though. They're pretty good shirts. Pretty good shirts. And not a lot of people have them. And I know that strictly because I had to place the order for how many shirts there were.
Starting point is 00:58:34 There won't be a lot of people have them and i know that strictly because i had to place the order for how many shirts there won't be a lot of them uh so hashtag pms 2.0 yup with three p's first person to do that wins a hundred dollar visa uh credit card appreciate that also best review in the uh what's that the itunes store. In the iTunes thing. Best review. Most hilarious review. Eloquent. Ty will read these. Ty will pick. You will win a $50 Visa cash card. $50.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Now we're winning. And possibly a Madden code if you don't have one. So maybe we give away a Madden code and $50. Best review. Because we're starting from zero here, by the way. We're right back at zero. Right back where we started. When we were in the basement of my house recording into bad devices.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Here we are back at it. College football digs. You want to give a little rundown of everything that happened? Nick Saban was a dick. Bro, what was that all about? All she did was basically ask, is that her name? Yeah. All she did was basically ask, how did your quarterbacks play? And he fucking went off on her.
Starting point is 00:59:32 For no reason, by the way. Maybe, I don't know, after they win, by the way, by a lot. I get it. Bill Belichick, we're onto this. We're miserable. We're not talking about it. Don't get too high on the highs, too lows on the low. But he was miserable. Well, it wasn't a trapping type question how do you react how do you feel about your quarterbacks yeah they both played great that's all you have to say it was wild
Starting point is 00:59:55 wasn't it like when you have a someone who started the entire last season and then lost his job to another guy and then both of them play in the game you're gonna get the fucking question on how they played. Hey, Nick, welcome to college football, buddy. That's why he fucking couldn't hack at the pros because he couldn't take anything not going his way. Well, he wants that hard knock show. He's a dictator.
Starting point is 01:00:14 He wants the hard knock show where they're inside. Are they really, though? He wants the $20 million to $15 million dining hall. He wants all the perks of college football, but the only negative is having to deal with press and media and when you're at the top of the mountain which alabama is i mean you're going to get questions about the most important position on a football team and if she would have like fired back at him like three four times maybe i get it but standard
Starting point is 01:00:39 post-game field interview yeah just doing her job. Nick, that's tough, Nick. Apparently he called her on Sunday morning and apologized. Yeah, I mean, he should have. Publicly or privately? Privately. I think that's just chicken shit. I don't know. He's fucking nuts. Well, because he knows he's going to see her again this season. The old Nick Tater having to fucking
Starting point is 01:00:59 swallow his words. I like that a lot. If she re-asked that question next week, that would be the funniest thing. Maybe we put that shirt out. Nick Tater with a picture of his face. I like that a lot. If she re-asked that question next week, that would be the funniest thing. Maybe we put that shirt out. Nicktator with a picture of his face. Quick question, Nick. Last time, not so good. You did the same thing in this game where one guy played and the other guy played.
Starting point is 01:01:17 They're both pretty important to the whole storyline here. How do you think your quarterbacks did today? He goes, you fucking bitch. He just walks off. That'd be beautiful. Nick Saban was also a Michigan State guy at one point. Oh, yeah. Not a good trend going on. He's from West Virginia, though, I think.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah, yeah. What could have possibly been going on behind the scenes that made him so pissed? It's just like the Doug Peterson thing. He's just tired of hearing the same question because he doesn't have a good fucking answer for it. Yeah, he doesn't. Doug Peterson, I think they've been covering some shit up. That's like Andrew Luck whenever he was was getting interviewed whenever he had to hurt shoulder uh it was all every answer he gave was terrible because i think they were telling him he couldn't
Starting point is 01:01:52 say certain things so andrew luck couldn't be andrew luck right so they're like you can't say this you can't say this you can't say this if you say this we say this so andrew luck's interviews were always just like very dead down and that's's, I don't know that for sure, but that's just from watching somebody give interviews, hearing them say things and just being like, that answer didn't make any sense. In verse now where he's just wide open about everything. And I'm assuming they're doing the same thing with Doug Peterson, right?
Starting point is 01:02:17 Like you can't say this, you can't say this, you can't say this. And it seems like Doug Peterson's personality is more like just want to kind of keep it moving, you know? I think Doug is also watching every practice and it seems like Doug Peterson's personality is more like just want to kind of keep it moving, you know? I think Doug is also watching every practice and every preseason game and realizing Nick Foles is who he thought he was. Super Bowl MVP? And he has to start him. Oh, you're saying pre-camp out in the woods?
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah. Pre-little peach pipe in the woods, decide to come back to football. I have a question about that. How much of that is associated with Frank Reich leaving? How important is that in the locker room? I'm hoping a lot, by the way. As a Colts fan, I'm hoping Frank Reich is the reason why Nick Foles
Starting point is 01:02:54 could potentially be doing bad. Agreed. That'd be good for the Colts. Yeah, that'd be great. Great for the Colts. Be really good for the Colts. So one year wonder, Nick Foles out. That's crazy. Speaking of West Virginia coaches, Jimbo Fisher leaves Florida State, and they look like dog shit. Dog shit.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Bro, so much swagger. The kickoff team doing the whole thing. Love it. Love everything about it. The whole stadium blacked out. Love it. Florida State, we're back at it. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Dog shit football team. And Aguayo misses a chippy. That's tough. That family. That mom does not deserve it. They're on top of the world. Oh, yeah. The Aguayo family was on top of the world.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Second round draft pick. Now, it's all coming down. It's all coming down. Virginia Tech, top Florida State. Defenses, by the way, look really good. Oh, yeah. A lot of the LSU-Miami game, I think, like, I was, the first quarter, like, those dudes were fucking flying around.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Hitting, too. Yeah. Like, that Virginia Tech-Florida State game was some hitting. I enjoyed it from a standpoint of, like, it was good defense. But, man, watching that team just stumble, fumble all over themselves and watching you bet Florida State. No, I had Virginia Tech. Oh, you did.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. Good for you. I put my, everything I had left in my bank account cause I had a rough weekend, put it on Virginia tech. We're back, baby.
Starting point is 01:04:13 We're back. Put that money in my bookie promo code. Pat don't match it. Beat Pat McAfee this Thursday, 1150. I get five minutes. Can I hit 19 three NBA threes in five minutes? I'm saying yes. That's going to be a piece of cake.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I'm thinking I can too. Is your jump shot back? I don't know. I'm going to have to work today. I'm going to have to do some work today. I blew out my shoulder. People forget. I blew out my shoulder carrying groceries.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I think you do it in three minutes. I was going to say five minutes is a lot of time. So we're going to have a rack there next to me. I can pick from any spot. So you don't have to go all the way around and then back? next to me i can pick from any spot so you don't have to like go all the way around and then back no i could pick it from any spot it just has to be an nba three you gotta find that sweet spot so i think i know i'm gonna go from the uh what's the side wing is that what it's called i think i'm gonna go from a wing right next to a pillar right
Starting point is 01:04:58 on the other side of a pillar we'll have a rack there i assume zito's gonna have to go run and buy a bunch of basketballs today i don't't know who's going to be rebounding. Need an athlete under there. I was going to say, is this bet with just you shooting your own rebounding? No. Those balls can come back. You need rebounders and you need someone standing next to you
Starting point is 01:05:17 putting it in the rack. Yes, so I can grab the rack. Bang. Five minutes, 19 threes. I'm pretty good at handling racks, so I think I should be next to it. Jeez, you're the worst. You're the absolute worst. You also need a guy to put the three up every time you shoot one. And then go like, you know.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Oh, like in the ref shirt? Yeah, I see where Todd's wearing the ref shirt. In the ref shirt. Zito will have the Flava Flav clock on his chest around his neck so the crowd can see how much time. So I'm buying a clock today and balls. Yes. And I don't think this type of thing has been done before
Starting point is 01:05:51 where you can just gamble on somebody live for five minutes. Come one, come all for the degenerates. Yeah. Promo code Pat, 100% match on that. I love that. Any other stories? West Virginia knocks down Tennessee, by the way. They fucking handled them.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Will Greer looks really fucking good. He throws the ball in an interesting way. It looks like he palms the whole fucking ball. And he's just putting it on a dime. Like, he's hitting throws that normally, and this sounds bad, I watched Jameis Winston play Pitt his final year at Florida State. Yeah, he looked really good that game. And that game, he was throwing balls to a pinpoint.
Starting point is 01:06:26 That's what Will Greer looked like this weekend. Will Greer was putting the ball in spots where runners ball, shit like that. It was great. I just want to let you know, too, I'm a big WVU guy this year. Really? Huge, yeah. How come?
Starting point is 01:06:37 I'm a big John Denver fan. Oh, Country Roads. Greatest tradition in college football. Dana Holgerson said it right after the game. I had goosebumps. Good marketing, Dana Holgerson. We've been Dana Hogerson said it right after the game. I had goosebumps. Good marketing, Dana Hogerson. We've been doing that for a long time after every win. Country roads and the whole stadium.
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's beautiful. It is beautiful. Underrated, I think. It's a great tradition. I definitely pandered this weekend. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I saw that. And I put out that the greatest tradition in football is Iowa,
Starting point is 01:06:59 waving to the kids at the Children's Hospital. Yep, go Hawks. You're such a good guy, dude. I really am. All right. Speaking of Pitt, though, college football, they play Penn State. Penn State barely snuck out over Appalachian State. Oh, AQ was not happy with me.
Starting point is 01:07:14 AQ was not happy. He went after me, too, because I couldn't find it on TV. Oh, yeah, thanks. I was loving it. I was watching the meltdown on Twitter. I was blacked out, too, pretty much, when it was happening. So I saw him go after you, so I knew that it meltdown on Twitter. I was blacked out, too, pretty much, when this happened. So I saw him go after you. So I knew that it would piss him off.
Starting point is 01:07:27 So I tweeted, where can I watch the App State game at? It's over, Pat. AQ, it's over. Don't worry about it. AQ was fucking upset. How about that, though? James Franklin's supposed to be a real good coach. Penn State's supposed to be pretty fucking good.
Starting point is 01:07:41 He's a good recruiter. He's been known as a good recruiter. His coaching always has been a little skeptical. You don't play Appalachian State week one. No, you don't. Come on. This is the 11th year anniversary of Appalachian Michigan. Corey Lynch, by the way, was a member of our special teams
Starting point is 01:07:54 at the Colts. Good guy. He's the one that blocked the kick. Special teams guru was with the Colts at the early part of my career. Good guy. Had no idea it was him until the highlight was shown in a team meeting. He was sitting right next to me and he was like, yeah, that was the biggest moment of my life.
Starting point is 01:08:10 I was like, that's you? Yeah, I'm like, holy shit, you could sign pictures of that forever, the rest of your life. I always thought, because he got tracked down at like the five. White guy. Didn't get in. He's a white safety. Great. Could get real skinny, could get thin, could block, knew where the ball was. That fucking
Starting point is 01:08:25 handoff punt touchdown. Oh my god. Toledo? VMI. Toledo. Virginia Military Institute in Toledo. It looked like a fake video. There's nobody blocking. He was so casual about it too. Didn't even celebrate. So people don't
Starting point is 01:08:42 know this. When you block a punt, you're supposed to go down. So you're supposed to go down to the ball. Everybody goes up. You're never going to get it. You're supposed to go down to the ball like you're diving into a pool. When you block a field goal, you're supposed to drive and go up. So it's two different. Some people try to block a punt.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Like I should have had probably three more punts blocked, but the dumbass Russian put his hands up, and it just went right through his fucking hands. So you're actually supposed to dive into a pool right at the ball, like right at the foot. That guy, picture perfect block. It looked as if there was nobody blocking. Nobody at all.
Starting point is 01:09:12 He almost beat the ball back there. And at that moment, you hope for the brand. He does the Kevin Huber behind the back pool thing. You know, you kind of hope for that. But that punter was a sitting duck. He actually commented on my video. He commented and he was like, my op time was good, man. I don't know what you want me to do. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:09:29 nothing you can do, bro. Nothing you can do. Op time, operation time, by the way. He got his shit off in the right time. Block punt for Florida State last night. That punter looked bad, too. That's Beamer Ball, baby. Is it, though? That's Beamer Ball, baby. They always say that. It's like one every five years
Starting point is 01:09:46 they do something now it is when they were in their prime like they were fucking getting like three or five three to five like a season maybe beamer ball is the reason why special teams changed completely where they started putting real athletes on there that's why i can't that's why i can't do directional punts anymore in the nfl really like coffin corners you can't really do it anymore because to do that you have to step out of like the block of your pocket and they just got like six foot five monsters coming off the edge just waiting to break your fucking leg in half it's like I'll just hit this little pooch and then because I don't know if it's because of that I remember Florida Urban Meyer used to put like his fastest like even like if you were the starting running back you were on the
Starting point is 01:10:21 fun block Ed Reed yeah that's what fucking Ed Reed. That moment with me and Ed Reed at the end of that Baltimore Ravens game, like a minute 10 left in the game. We're up by two or something. Just look at him. What the fuck are you doing out here to block this punt? And he just shrugs at me. I've never felt less of a man than that moment right there. Like, well, I hope Jack Doyle blocks this fucking Ed Reed.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Jack Doyle, good luck. All right, let's get out of here. It's been a fun day. Thank you so much for tuning in. You can watch this on the YouTube if you'd like to watch it back. Subscribe, rate, review. Heartland Radio tomorrow at noon releasing. Todd guiding the ship.
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Starting point is 01:11:31 I got a lot of meetings too, by the way. Three of the five mainstream networks have reached out to me and we have conversations in the next couple of days. Will we be a live show again soon? I'm not sure. I very much love this potential schedule we're in right now. But there's a lot of conversations happening. I'm very thankful.
Starting point is 01:11:49 A lot of companies have reached out that didn't reach out in the past. A lot of big swinging dicks, to be honest, have showed up in my emails. Swing, swing. That I did not expect. It was an overwhelming weekend. I thank everybody so much for your love. I thank Barstool for the year and a half that they taught me how to do the internet and helped me out with everything in the transition post-NFL.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Obviously, things got a little ugly in the business side of things, but that's kind of what happens when you're 713 miles away. That was my decision to stay in Indianapolis because I fucking love this city. But to everybody listening, thank you, thank you, thank you. You're the absolute best. Subscribe, rate, review. Best review, Madden Code and $50 thing. And a question earlier, PMS2Point.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Get your answer. You probably already missed it, if I had to guess. Diggs has something on his computer. Investors? Possibly you. It's a YouTube show, too, every single day. Diggs is looking for cash. You can Venmo the kid.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Kid's heard. Aside from that, we don't have music, but Ty Schmidt. Hit the music.

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