The Peacock and Gamble Podcast - The Peacock and Gamble Podcast: Edinburgh Fringe 2012 Episode 20 (Mick Miller and Jimmy Cricket)

Episode Date: January 24, 2021

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in St Helens. So, make up your own mind about that. Anyway, what's this all about? It's a blooming podcast. That's right. What's wrong with you, mate? Just doing it like welcoming new new listeners in we've established if there's any new listeners

just go back to the first one because you're not going to understand any of this yeah and if you do understand it you go well they're being idiots and it's probably going to get on your nerves

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welcome back welcome back you've listened to all those first ones we gave them a chance didn't we yeah we gave them a chance so Ray is spooning

cold lemon water and honey into his mouth because he's ill it's got a bit of whiskey in there I'll tell you the truth it's got a bit of whiskey in there and I said well you should have

a hot lemon and whiskey drink hot lemon and whiskey and honey hot toddy no he's had it cold which negates most of the medicinal qualities

why does it because it's supposed to be warm for your throat it's supposed to just keep your throat nice but I often have just lemon juice straight from the lemon yeah

and how often are you ill me loads yeah exactly yeah very sickly yeah very sickly very poorly I'm not because I'm always

quite robustly ill what do you mean well I'm not really one for just hanging about going you are a bit mate no I'm not you are mate when I'm going to go you are a bit mate no I'm not you are mate

when I get ill mate I'm like oh shit I've got to do the show but I feel like I'm going to collapse I'm ill I'm really ill come on do the show do the show

no there's no do the show it's oh okay I'll come and do the show I did let's do the show I did the show very well last night even though I was ill you did it in a buckless gown

that is part of just letting the audience know that you're poorly and how well you are working. You did do very well last night. You were very poorly, but you did the show very well. Clap, clap, nice boy. You said you could tell I was ill. I could tell, but no one else could.

No. I could tell because some of the bits that you usually do giddy and energetic and shouty, you did a little bit quieter. Oh, really? Was I really subdued? Was I? I'm sorry. No, but it was still really funny.

You did them in a funny way, but you actually just did them a little bit differently in that you probably took them down a couple of shouting levels. Just couldn't shout, that's all right. Yeah, that's fine. That's allowed. Listen to this. Oh, God. Right, that's half of the people have turned off now.

Half of that was cocaine. Yeah, I know, mate. Terrible, really. About 30 quid down there. I'm your own worst enemy, if you like it, Edinburgh. Yeah. So, we're in the home straight. Yeah, home straight.

Seven more shows left for us. Podcast-wise, we're looking at... We've got Al Murray coming up. Yeah. So we're in the home straight. Yeah home straight seven more shows left for us. Podcast wise we're looking at we've got Al Murray coming up. Yeah Al Murray. Well I mean and we're going out on a limb saying this

because. Yeah he should be coming. Al Murray we're interviewing tomorrow. Yeah. But you never know do you not.

Nick Helm we're interviewing tonight. Something might happen in the pub. Yeah exactly. Yeah the pub where he runs. Yeah by the fire or

something. Nick Helm we're interviewing mate. Yeah. Waiting to hear back from Les mate yeah waiting to hear back from Les Dennis waiting to hear back from Les Dennis

amazingly it's a bit weird isn't it yeah so if that doesn't happen that'll be disappointing now we've said that oh yeah we've put it in now as well

yeah oh well it's Les Dennis that's let you down not us yeah so you're not emailing him anymore

yeah speaking of email Iman Iman he's the number one not David Bowie's wife no a comedian man

he's a little bloke He's a little bloke. He is a little bloke, isn't he? Yeah. How big is he? Thumb. I mean, that's not a ridiculous exaggeration. No. No.

Well, yeah. It's that big. Yeah. It's that big. The thumb on one of those novelty foam things that you get at Gladiators. How big is that, do you reckon? Probably a beer barrel. If you've ever worked in a pub, that's probably a beer barrel.

It's not as big as a beer barrel. Do you think I know that for a fact because I was speaking to him the other night and I was leaning on one of those beer barrels

in the Gilded Garden and he certainly wasn't oh no I don't mind the modern metal ones the little squire ones

that you have in the cellar yeah lager barrel but why are we judging the man by his size he's got plenty

of story to tell and he'll be coming up on the podcast in a bit yeah if he texts me back but today we have Mick Miller

and Jimmy Cricket now if that means nothing to you then you may as well switch off now because I'm not interested no no if that means nothing to you

that probably means you're below the age of 38 right that's fair Mick Miller and Jimmy Cricket so Jimmy Cricket both been big stars really Jimmy Cricket had his own

Saturday night show for many years I think it was ITV or BBC what I don't BBC it was one of the channels one of the big channels because there weren't any of us at that point yeah he was fantastic

and he an Irish gentleman who had a catchphrase and there's more is he Irish or Northern Irish? Northern Irish is he? I don't know Irish

they're all Irish so he's Northern Irish to me mate they're all Irish oh well let's not make that call on the podcast why? because I don't know if you know people have got themselves into a right old tizzy about that in the past.

Have they? Yeah, they have, mate. Have they? Yeah. Well, it's not like you're from the island of Ireland. You're Irish. Oh, right. Let's leave that.

Why? Mate, what do you... Right, leave it. No! Do you think Northern Irish people... Do you think there might be some who consider themselves Irish... There are. ...and then some who consider themselves British?

Right. And they've... I'll be honest it's come to fisticuffs in the past has it well who are we blaming

who's right who's wrong well we're not we're not falling on either side we could sort this out right now no we couldn't

who's right are they British or are they Irish I know this is all funny funny funny but there will be people getting even people who

really like us getting genuinely pissed off well that's I think that's silly so Jimmy Cricket is on today as well as Mick Miller

now Mick Miller you would probably know him if you saw him very distinctly looking gentleman probably know him if you saw him yeah

you would you'd recognise him he's got a tattoo saying Mick Miller right on his head right across his forehead yeah bawling at the front

long hair down the back yeah I would argue his most famous routine is the noddy routine where he look that up on YouTube if you'd like

it's amazing just do that in fact turn this off now and go and watch it and then come back to it he basically does

the story of Noddy as the presenter is drunk on the radio it's really funny I do like it an awful lot so we spent a bit

of time with Mick and Jimmy and then a bit of time later on as well we should tell you a little addendum there's a guy

called Chapson Bear who's a comic who does his entire yeah as well yeah we should tell you a little addendum there's a guy called Chapson Bear who's a comic yeah who does his entire act as a bear right I think he's my favourite act of the Fringe

this year like I've genuinely I'm not even in an ironic way I genuinely enjoy it yeah and he just goes I went to France yesterday everyone went crazy

because I'm a bear wagga wagga wagga wagga wagga so anyway that's a bit of his material that I shouldn't really do but there you go and I introduced Mick Miller to him

and we said this is Laurie the guy who does his act as a bear and we carried on talking for a bit and then Ed said

Mick hasn't spoken for five minutes well Mick's face was just the perfect picture of confusion when we were explaining the act because I mean

it was two opposite ends of the scale Laurie Lowe does his the Baron does his act this is Mick he's pretty much

as straightforward a sort of pure northern comic as you can be inventive though yeah and Ed said you've not spoken

for five minutes and Mick went I'm thinking and Laurie had finished his run in Edinburgh and said he was going home and Mick went I've been at him

that was nice I wish you could have been there but you couldn't I'm just going to put the interview on I think we should put it on because it was a really nice interview I'm not feeling well

I really enjoyed myself Ray's not feeling well I for some reason hang on mate just talking a bit of me cold toddy okay personally

I am sweating my nuts off right now. In here? Yeah. It's absolutely boiling. It is, yeah. A proper sauna. God knows what's going to

happen when Les Dennis is in here. He won't come, will he? He won't come. Right. Apparently he's not going to come. Mick introduced me to him.

He's a nice bloke, Les Dennis. Yeah. See this now. I doubt I'll meet him again. This has just turned into sort of gentle anecdotes that sound

like they're from 1982. Doesn't it? Yeah. I was in Performers Bar and then Mick Miller introduced me to Les Dennis. Les Dennis. A young comic, Les Dennis.

Right, so this is the interview. I'm going to go and have a shower just because I've sat in here for two minutes. Ray's going to go and have a little sleep. I don't think I am going to sleep. I think I'm going to... I might stay in this room. Okay.

And just sweat it all out. I'll sweat it out that's quite a good plan actually yeah cheers man okay here's the interview here's Mick and Jimmy Mick and Jimmy so we're here with

Jimmy Cricket and Mick Miller hooray which is really weird yes like really really weird

yes you're still alive yeah do you know what Jimmy what we've got a weird thing going on here because I'm old enough, but Ed's not old enough.

So it's that generational thing. What's going to happen? To be properly familiar. Yeah. I'm very familiar with you both. Right. And Ed's only 14, so he's...

The short pants give it away, I think. But you still know who they are. Yeah, absolutely. You're aware of their work. Wow, you're tripping over posters, really, aren't you? You have had amazing poster coverage, by the way. Yeah. Have you only just arrived?

You've only just arrived in Edinburgh, is that right? Last night. I've been here since Thursday. Oh, have you? Okay, good. Thursday, yeah. Right. And any gig in the days in between?

No, no, I just caught up with a few friends Terry Alderton and Steve Shanansky and you've seen Maxwell yet oh yeah saw Maxwell the other night he's not growing

no he's not in fact his poster's bigger than him he genuinely is yeah it was amazing yeah it was weird

that was one of the most beautiful things on television I think that ever happened and it wasn't sort of a massive show because of where the show was and where it's programmed and that. But looking back at Kings of Comedy now, which you were on with Andrew. Yeah, yeah.

And of course, like, Jamie Godley and Scott Capreo was in there for a while. Steve Booth was in there. Your friendship, Mick, with Andrew Maxwell was one of the loveliest things I've ever watched unfold. Because that show was set up in a really cynical way. Yeah. It was set up to... It was trying to kill the old guys off, basically. Do up in a really cynical way yeah it was set up he was trying to kill the old guys off basically

do you think it was? I think it was but we sorted it because we were going on and I mean Stan Baldwin Stan's a bit of a you know

dinosaur he can't get on with it he doesn't get it at all no Stan doesn't get it he'll admit it but that was a funny thing there's no idea

what's happening we did a gig about three months ago in New Brighton it was it was the old comedians but we had questions and answers

and Johnny Vegas come Johnny Vegas said I'd play his dad in Ideal he said I've got a question which comedian stroke actor

from the St. Helens area is the best right did you say me because I am from the St. Helens area oh yeah I said there's that many of them yeah nice nice I think I'm Did you say me? Because I am from the St. Alex area. Oh, yeah.

I said there's that many of them. Yeah, nice, nice, nice. I think I'm rapidly clawing up Johnny's back. I think I'm, like, pushing it. I'm just beginning to push him down now. Yeah, no, I think you're there. You're nearly there. You're going to be in one of these teabag adverts, you see.

Oh, do you know what? I really won't. Think of the money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, totally. But there was that weird thing. So Kings of Comedy, basically, it was a Big Brother style show.

Yeah, we lived in this house. Yeah. I think there was five alternatives, only three, what do you call it, mainstream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two of them pulled out and we were never told

who they were. Okay. And then of course, we had to do a challenge every day. You know, one day we had to do a twin up with somebody I did an acting thing with Jamie man and wife

I'm coming in pissed every night that's not acting is it every night she was saying why did you come home and talk about nodding every night so yeah we did that one day Maxwell and I we had to swap acts

that's right so we had to obviously put the cod bald head on and he had to wear my jacket yeah you know the size of it

yeah he looked as if it was on castors but me and Jimmy go back many many years because I was a guest on Jimmy's show were you really

on the Saturday show yeah there's more yeah yeah wow wow, wow. Yeah, you know, I was very sort of lucky there because the people I loved, I had an understanding producer

who let me put them on. Yeah, yeah. Who produced it? Tony Wolfe. Okay. And Billy Dent, he was this great eccentric dancer like Maxwell

when I used to see him as a kid in Belfast, so that's why I do a bit of a funny walk. Yeah. He let me come on and do this thing. Yeah.

And so it was just, you know, and of course Rory Bregner. And the marvellous thing, because then we were innovative, because Rory was from a different university, a very working class, and it fitted. And when I look at some of the sketches, it was the money they put in these sketches to make them. Like, you know, you wouldn't, this is the thing.

Yeah. But it's quite you know it was enough because i remember when you first came jimmy particularly when you first came to a prominent role on tv yeah when i read the news yeah yeah you had a run this is nine o'clock here was a ten o'clock news we all you know you did the weather for three days non-stop this man is too good for the weather. But it did seem like, it's that horrible thing when people say overnight success, and we all know that there's no such thing, it never happens.

You know, people are genuinely working for a long time and stuff. And I know that both of you, you're both Pontins, is that right? Yes. Yes. Buntax Blues, aren't we? Yeah. That was it. And how is it pro football?

Do you want to say that? I was fascinated by Mick's background. Because when I got a free transfer at Port Vale which means crap so there was me

and Ray Kennedy and Ray Kennedy went on to play for England we left Port Vale Ray went to Arsenal and he got like 50 grand

right you know and a nice car yeah and I went to Pontins and I got a blue coat a shelly

and a very nasty rash. I was luckier. A waitress spilt soup on me and had a lilting Belfast accent. So I fell in love and married her. That's a romantic moment there. Is that true?

I've just met your son outside. Yes, Sir Frankie. Now your son is a vicar because he's not a vicar. You're pretty close, yeah. What is he? Well, Sir Frankie. Now your son is, I don't want to say he's a vicar because he's not a vicar. You're pretty close, yeah. What is he? Well, he's a deacon which means he's served six years

and then in a year's time he'll be ordained a Roman Catholic priest. Right, I want to pay him a compliment, genuinely, now on the podcast because I'm not

a religious man in any way at all. At least you're honest. No, that's fine. However, we were just outside just now talking with Tim andines out there,

and Frankie was there. And a gentleman came past. He was clearly in some distress. He was very, very ill. He looked very, very ill. And he was off like a shot. Frankie was over there like a shot. And me and Tim were just there going,

and I think he got in a cab and sorted him out and all that sort of thing. And me and Tim were... He had his wallet away, though. Yeah, I'm glad you said that I was getting emotional though I was getting emotional I was getting emotional

I was getting emotional He put one straight in the collection He gave me £20 and said Will you mention this on the podcast And make me sound like I'm good I said of course I will But I was genuinely A touching thing And Tim said I actually feel guilty now and make me sound like I'm good. I said, of course not. No, but I was, I was genuinely, obviously,

it was genuinely a touching thing. And Tim said, Tim said, I actually feel guilty now. And then he wrote a joke about it, didn't he? Yes. Straight in with a one-liner.

How many vickers does it take? Yeah. What was the one Tim did outside? He did a cracker for us. Oh, he said, he's working in a restaurant here. Yeah. He's the London bastard.

No, he's not. But there was also an amazing thing when I met Frankie. It was luckily, I remembered last minute that Jimmy's son was in the church because I was literally

going to go, what are you in? What show are you in? Well, he doesn't seem out of place in Edinburgh, you see. Yeah, yeah. You know, nuns

and roller skates and things. Plus, he was in the game. He was actually. He did an act of comedy under Frankie Doodle. What? And your daughter is also a comedian, is that right? Kayleigh, yeah. He was actually. He did an act comedy under Frankie Doodle. What? And your daughter

is also a comedian, is that right? Katie, yes. She's actually here at this moment in the stand number four in the marketplace doing a double ever

called Telltales. Oh, so it's Katie... Mulgrew. Yeah, Katie Mulgrew. Is Katie Mulgrew your daughter? Yeah. I didn't know that.

Oh, I know her really well. Ah, bless. Jimmy Mulgrew was my name as a pontons. But she's kept her real. That's her name. I, bless. Jimmy Mulgrew was my name as a pontons. But she's kept her real. That's her name. I didn't know Katie Mulgrew was Jimmy Cricket's daughter. It's official.

We've had the blood test. I remember that episode of Jeremy Coyle. So we got as pontons. You had your rush, Mick. Yeah. At that point. So then how did you... I know you did New Faces.

Yeah, I got a New Faces in 1976. And I won that one. But I didn't go any further. I didn't get anywhere in the final. Okay. But lots of people... Like, Les Dawson was the same. He won his heat and then...

Up Knox, yeah. Yeah, up Knox. And then didn't win. But I think a lot of people who were... Tom O'Connor was on the original Comedians. Right, yeah. And then he went on Up Knox after that. Yeah.

After that? He won it. He won it about six times. Times, yeah. And then he went on Up Knox after that. Was it afterwards? He won it about six times. Six times, yeah. It was like a bizarre thing to do. You know, you're on like the number one show and I'll go and do Up Knox. Yeah.

Frowns, Frowns, Huey Green used to do that. Frowns. For a Leverpudden comedian, I want you to get those votes. I don't know. It's very hard. You go out in a prayer

because I know people that belong. They can document. So maybe he took a chalke to the gamble. Isn't that bizarre now? What he used to say. Yeah.

Put your name on a postcard and send it in. Yeah. How bizarre is that when you look at technology these days? Of course it is. Because everybody's ringing in

and everybody's, yeah. Yeah. But he was larger than life. He was up this Canadian. I used to be fascinated by him because there was a bread strike once when I was a kid in Belfast. Right.

And he came out at this Opportunity Knoxist program every week with a loaf under his arm. Yes, yes. I said, friends, friends, look at this. I'm the envy of the nation. Look. And then all of a sudden he turned straight, looked straight at the camera. But I sincerely hope the nation get more bread next week. But have you ever seen stuff of Huey Green now?

Do you know who Huey Green is? Absolutely not. Right, okay. So Huey Green was the host of, Huey Green is absolutely not right okay so Huey Green was the host of Huey Green it transpired many years later was Paul Yates' dad

oh really yeah but he had a real if you watch him now like it makes me cringe a little bit because it's so over the top

yeah so sincere and he needs to say it I mean that most sincerely but it's so like come on stop it stop it stop it

but yeah a massive character he was one of the ones they did when they did they did Steptoe and Son and they did Frankie Howard but when they did

There's No Biomics and the third one was Huey Green and they were all but the Steptoe and Son one has since been legally there's been a big

an injunction on the Steptoe one I think it was part of the family of was it Wilfred's family it was one of their families said, look, this isn't how it was. And they weren't, they didn't get up famously well, but they weren't bitter

enemies. And I have read recently in the last few weeks that Alan said to them, when they went, when they were researching, they told them, no, the boys got on. This is a lie. But it's the old thing, never let the truth get in the way. But I think they deserve, the family then deserve to get recovered. Because you've got to this is a lie but it's the old thing never let the truth get in the way of a good story yeah

but I think they deserve the family then deserve to get recorded because you've got to take in the people's feelings absolutely and you're going to tell birthless lies

you know yeah I mean it's the sort of thing that like many many years down the line you could do someone's take on it or whatever

when there are still people who when it's still that Genghis Khan got a lot of bad press oh yeah he did he did

I think he was much maligned imagine if it was that just someone did a biopic very quick afterwards

they'd be like that's not true it's out now it's out now that's it that's it I'm going to do it all again

but this time no more Mr Nice Guy so you're at the Frim they're doing the show together before your tour That's it. That's it. I'm going to do it all again, but this time, no more Mr. Nice Guy. Yeah, yeah, no. Pre-cooking gamble, pre-cooking gamble. So you're at the Frim, they're doing the show together before your tour.

You are touring with the show. Yeah. We started that. We did Darlington. Oh, you started already? I love it. Darlington was lovely, yeah. And how is that?

Oh, it's great. Well, it's great. We work well together because we're totally different. Yeah, of course. That's the trick. Yeah, yeah. That's the trick.

Yeah. And is there any between you who goes first, I think, or second, or are you mixing it up? Jimmy likes to go on first. Yeah. Yeah. That's the trick. Yeah. And is there any between you, who goes first, I think, or second, or are you mixing it up? Jimmy likes to go on first. Yeah. I don't mind going on second.

We find common ground. We go on top of the bill. No, that's it. That's it. Yeah. And is it just you two or do you have a compa? No, no,

we just do it ourselves. Just straight off the bat, you're in there. It's the same wage. It does say the same wage, doesn't it? Yeah, it certainly does. So how long does that tour go on for?

Oh, we've got each other. Yeah, we do, actually. Yeah. Marvelous. We're just trying it out. We're trying out for doesn't. Absolutely. That's it, really.

We'll do it again. We're tipping our toes. So I read, I don't know if it's still on your publicity material now, but I know it's certainly on some of the ones I saw, where it was something along the lines of, they show these young comic... No, I didn't want that. No, no, no.

I probably nicked it. I don't think that's nice. I wasn't challenging it. That's more important, yeah. Yeah. To be honest, it did make me cringe. Did it? Yeah, yeah.

But you have to go with the flow. And the marketing people think that's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fella that wrote that has now got a very bad limb. Has he? I think I know who it was. But I think it's meant more in the kidology. Yeah. I think I know who it was. But I think it's meant more in the kidology, I think.

Because I certainly know, because a lot of the people I've met, even for the first time, and all the younger comics, Mick and I get on like a house on fire, and that's why we straddle both camps. Well, you've produced one anyway. Exactly. And that's in a nutshell. But there is that really weird thing, and it's a very, very odd thing.

Like you said about Kings of Comedy as well. They want us to not be friends. They want the younger generation or what would be considered the alternative comedy, which doesn't even exist anymore. They want that, and then the old school of comedy, for want of a better phrase,

they want there to be loggerheads with it. And I don't even think with the exception of maybe the sort of very hardcore Ben Ellison stuff early on I don't even think

that was ever even the issue to begin with I can't define much difference between acts or styles or like that there's not

apart from like you say very early on with sort of deliberately alternative comedy which is a deliberate reaction Lexi said he was

he didn't want he didn't like our style but I don't think there was ever a thing that was only ever a thing of being a quote unquote

character I know that's what Alexei feels as well but it wasn't about saying so you can't exist anymore and so you can't work anymore

they were totally different venues absolutely of course in them days we wouldn't work their venues and they would

never come near ours of course there was nothing, we wouldn't work their venues and they would never come near ours. There was nothing to it. It's a non-existent vendetta. And that came through to me when I was chatting to Jason Manford, because sometimes you need people. We met at a wedding of Alfie Joe a couple of years back and he said, the early guys, like

you said, had to really, in a way, have a go at us because they were making themselves different. That was their platform and that was fine he says but we're the next and we grew up watching you so we don't have that animosity it's a warmth there

and that really came through to me you know yeah but we've had a thing with our double acts loads and loads of people saying to us oh you like Liam Herring

Liam Herring if you don't know who they were they were sort of a 90s double act Richard Herring and Stuart Lee and they were double acts and people say to us oh you just like Liam Herring you just like Richard Herring and Stuart Lee and they were double acts

and people say to us oh you just like Liam Herring and we're like we're not we're like Cannon and Ball you know you come in far too late

on that they're going to say little and large they're going to pick one of them absolutely but we spoke to Richard about it

to Richard Herring about it where I called Richard on it and said were you a fan of Cannon and Ball he went oh yeah I love Cannon and Ball I love Cannon and Ball

I went well there you go. So both of us are just perfectly Cannonball. Yeah, they don't think we've copied them but we wrote an article recently saying we've not copied them, they've not copied,

we've both copied Cannonball. But you know, and again, Tom and Bob, I can't speak higher of, I absolutely love them, I really, really adore what they do.

Very special. They really are, yeah, special is a good word it's particularly for Bobby but I've been working with Bobby a little bit because I work on

Not Going Out I do the warm up on Not Going Out oh right so I've got to know Bobby a little bit right then again

not dissimilar to now but I'm hiding it very well just utterly in awe of him like genuinely so that's why it really raises my hackles when there is like Kings of Comedy

when there's a deliberate attempt to go right four hours in yeah it was supposed to be a different audience you know

we didn't want students every show five days a week yeah so I went in and said you've moved the goalposts to here

you know one afternoon let's have some well Boothby went you bastard yeah and then we had kids one afternoon that's right

I remember that I can get away with it I just did a bit of wrestling routine but Maxwell was absolutely tremendous he ripped them

apart these kids they loved him lovely he has a lovely manner with him doesn't he he's a very good regardless of what

you think of him as a comic he's a very good talker he's a very accessible human, I think, as well. So, you know,

he can find anyone on a level, which I think is what makes him a good comic, you know, Andrew, as well, because he does, just wanders about, and then sees things, and then just goes and talks about it. I remember seeing him do, like,

half an hour ones, and we were knocking about a fair bit together as well, but on that fringe, whenever it was, 2000 or something, and I remember seeing him do half an hour on a kid that he'd watched, this sounds really dodgy

when I say it, but he'd watched all day at Edinburgh Swimming Baths. Yeah. Right, so Maxwell watched It does sound quite... It does, doesn't it? But Maxwell watched this one kid

all day at Edinburgh Swimming Baths and then had spoke to him with his friends about it and he was called the Bomber. I can still remember what it was. He was called the Bomber. Right. Because he was the one,

they'd all be playing at the pool and then suddenly there'd be a hush silence where this one kid just go up to the second board and then he'd walk up

to the third and everyone would be like whoa what is that and then eventually and Maxwell just said it all

as a long story and then suddenly he'd just jump off it and bomb in which you're not allowed to do but he'd just do it and now everyone

would cheer in the back but he did half an hour and he'd seen it that morning yeah no that was very very clever he's very very good

although he did fall out with me last night Maxwell did yes I asked him how Silverhammer was and

he had a Speedle song yeah you got it you got it so have you performed at the Fringe before

I did a little thing for Jenny Godley yeah okay about three years ago were you in her show always yeah just like it I did a little thing for Jenny Godley. Yeah, okay. About three years ago. Were you in her show? Yeah, just like a little chat thing. Nice, nice. So I'd just come up and I'd look around and that's where I met Johnny. Yeah, okay. Yeah, well he's normally knocking around somewhere, hasn't he, up here? Is it as a, from the old club circuit, do you think there's a fair comparison that it's a microcosm of that?

It wasn't a wasn't paying your dues around the clubs and doing all that. And I've always looked at Edinburgh as almost a shortcut, even though it's

not a shortcut, but almost that, that working men's club, again, wrong about phrase, condensed and

rammed into Edinburgh for a month. When we started, you sign a contract and there'll be a year's work. You can go from the talk of the West in Cornwall to the talk of the East and then Batley When we started, I mean, like, you sign a contract. And there'd be a year's work. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You'd go from, like, Talk of the West in Cornwall to the Talk of the East, and then Batley Variety Club, then. So they're all weeks. Yeah, all weeks. The Bailey Circuit. I used to see Mick's name on the Bailey Circuit. But we'd usually support the Nolans, the Dooley family, there'd be Pop Roots or Jimmy Ruffin.

It would be, and we'd be the early sort of spot. You'd be the comics on the... On the comics, that's it. That's it, supporting. Yeah. I think it's a really interesting thing, because I'd say that you two, particularly, because you've sort of come on, gently come on to what would be considered

the circuit now. Yeah. If you'd both gig, on the spot. Yeah, I mean, I can't believe that this week, Tuesday and Wednesday, I was on Eastbourne in Hippodrome playing to quite a mature audience. You're here now to quite a...

But that's the thing, it feels the same. It's all relevant, you know, and it's all great for us. It's the same stuff, but with our older crowd, you're just leaving. Yeah, you're going to eat. I'm trying to work this sort of gag in. That one, probably I'm going to go for it,

see how it goes. It's an impression of the Olympic bronze medalist, Tom Daley, going into a dive. Kind of a late night drink. But when I did it least four, just nothing. Nothing at all. Right. But you know the way, you love them anyway because they're doing well.

So I looked and I said, does it have potential? And this little woman shouted, no. Not as Simon Cowell. I mean, no, here's the interesting thing. Have you noticed? Now, I think that we've said, you know. We've talked about this before, yeah. About audiences. Since the advent of the, I mean, I know there's a interesting thing. Have you noticed, now, I think that we've certainly noticed... We've talked about this before, yeah. About audiences, since the advent of the...

I mean, I know there's always been talent shows, but since the advent of them being so enormous, like the Britain's Got Talent and X Factor... And harsh as well. And so harsh. Yeah, that's the word. What I've noticed, certainly, is an increase in chatting during shows, an increase in people complaining after shows.

Yeah. And an increase of people just after shows and I think people just literally given it a few minutes ago don't like this this is rubbish yeah it's also people not coming

ready to have a good time it's people wanting to be pulled out of them by someone like a nod element of being judgmental

I have to confess boys that I haven't but Katie has my daughter has yeah yeah it's just us yeah I have to confess, boys, that I haven't, but Katie has. My daughter has. Yeah. Yeah.

That's just us. Yeah. Not that she's the right of new jokes. Maybe the younger generation does feel a little bit. Am I maybe saying that they're a bit more mature? They are more respectful? They may not still like it, but they're not going to show it as much. Yeah, yeah.

Actually, but there is a, like you said about being Eastbourne if it's an older audience then they're an audience who have learnt and I guess it's been passed down to them

that you shut up when the lights go out and all that sort of thing yeah very much so I think there is

an angle not what it sounds like learning about men but there is that element of just a

lack of basic human manners and that's what we want we just want civility and courtesy, really, don't you? It happens in the cinema too, though. Is that the same thing?

People in the cinema nowadays... We've got him off on a rant now. Yeah, I'm going, here we go, here we go. No, I just wondered whether or not that was a thing that... It's an interesting phenomenon. She did say that to me. We don't get many hecklers because we're too fast. Yeah.

But, Mick, so you said you don't get heckling hardly at all I don't get many hecklers if we do dinners I do corporate dinners

and sportsman's dinners if you're on too late you know because like you basically I'd be on

say with Barry McGuigan he's the speaker so he goes on straight after the dinner so it's a great time to be on

then they'll do raffles and auctions and if it's too late they're gone you know so it's a great time to be on yeah then they'll do raffles and auctions and if if it's too late they're gone yeah you know the first

been out they've had a bag with the mates and they come back and then they come back in dribs and drabs and you're halfway through and they come and sit

at the front you know right you know who told you you were funny you agree just before he told you to get a loaf of bread

yeah I would have thought that an audience coming to one of your shows the two of you would have been I think maybe your

reputation would precede you so there would be an element of I know I'd use my dad as an example my dad would be

a good example where he'd be like don't mess with these don't mess with these he'd be like, don't mess with these. Don't mess with these lot. I know what they're doing with these lot. Don't mess with these lot. I've got you lot. These lot will have your knees.

Definitely. You certainly would. There would be a real element of that. Where maybe you would overwhelm them slightly. Well, what I would do, because Ray was his channel, Squeaky Clean, I probably would want them to be mixed. Yeah, of course. If you're doing character comedy.

I have, and to be honest, I waved the flag that there was one time last year when I actually did get a load of guys laughed, but it's more the exception. They have kept me awake at night. Really? Yes. Really?

Yeah. With your onstage persona, I would argue again then that anybody heckling you would be tantamount to bullying. Yeah. Because it's such a sweet character. We feel this about our show as well. Anyone coming in and sitting there

with a horrible face on them, not enjoying it, you think, at least, come on, we've put an effort in. It's like, what a sweet thing. Yeah. There's no nastiness to us on stage yeah exactly

if you start trying to shout nasty things I think it says more about you as a person we had a thing that we dealt with because we were at a very late spot

last year we've not had walkouts this year but last year we had a spate about three or four days where we'd lose two members of the audience

every night and we get it because people sometimes just buy tickets or whatever it's boiling and they've had a drug

you pretty much know within 10 minutes of our show what you're going to get you know what it is but when people would leave

the first time they did it we got very angry about it we were swearing at them and then they went and then we had a

chat about it that night going that's totally out of character for us so even though we're angry I started crying

so people would leave and I'd have a real just start crying so i was on a cruise with a magician and he's called chris go right very funny similar tommy cooperish but be very funny and he used to walk on ironing board on the stage and you know the trick where they do it where the lady's flat yeah he did it with an ironing board on the stage and you know the trick where they do it where the lady's flat? Yeah. He did it with an ironing board. Right. And I was setting it up

and he's got the mic there like that and there was four people sat on the front row and they stood up and they walked out the room like that just before they went

before I do this very dangerous trick I've got to ask four people to move the room. Aww. Thank you very much. Yeah. Oh, I love it. Yes yeah I love it

I love it I worked to an audience once and six people in the audience right and the manager came in and he said

well don't worry there'll be a coach along soon nice and the coach came along and the coach took him in the drover oh how horrific that's awful

well we our show this year is set in a lighthouse for no reason oh right we've set it in a lighthouse that we live in a lighthouse and we've built a set

of a lighthouse for no reason so now we've planned it we've only had like one or two walkouts but now we say people leave

that the tide's in so the tide's in you've no chance but that's lovely because you've worked it out that's beautiful and I think that you're prepared and it's you wanted a two up and two down now you've worked it out that's beautiful and I think that

you're prepared and you wanted a two up and two down now you've got one down five up that was Mick and Jimmy there genuinely a lovely experience with Mick

yeah very nice I enjoyed myself as well yeah I really liked it but you had no idea who they were I did know who I'd seen a lot of

Mick Miller stuff as they left you said that was the bloke from the Grumble Weeds no idea who they were I did know who Mick I'd seen a lot of Mick Miller stuff as they left you said that was the bloke from the grumble weeds no I did and that was someone else who said that

it was Laurie Lewin yeah who was in Doctor Hero as well yeah and he said it to Mick and the performers but yeah and Mick genuinely

looked put out by it but was laughing along yeah I mean as he left Mick went to Laurie Lewin thought you were great in Blur by the way

that was a great interview it was nice wasn't it I liked the way. That was a great interview. It was nice wasn't it? I liked it a lot. It was a bit echoey wasn't it? Sorry about that. We're in a different room because we didn't

feel right about dragging them all the way over here and making them walk up 93 steps. Yeah so we've got a room down the Pleasance. We paid for it so don't be saying that we're

getting special favours off Simon Streeton. Yeah. And that's it so we've not plugged our show? No we've not. Our show is Peacock and Gamble.

Don't even want to be on telly anyway. 9.40 at the Pleasant's Dome Dome. Final straight now. It'll be lovely to fill out the rest of the shows. Have a nice big send-off from the Fringe to us. Probably sold out. No, don't say that.

Oh. No. Come along. Sell it out. That'd be lovely. We've had a really nice time and we'd really like to make this final week as fun as the rest of them have been.

If you don't come to it, we'll punch you in the face. Right, okay. I was trying to be sincere there, mate. But no, you crack on. I'm going to punch them in the face. Sincerely. I'm to it will punch you in the face right okay I was trying to be sincere there mate but no you crack on I'm going to punch them in the face sincerely

I'm sincerely going to punch you in the face that was my impression of Hughie Green brilliant now if you're

young tune back in tomorrow little something for the granddads today yeah well remember I was telling you mum and dad that

Ray sometimes does little anecdotes yeah exactly about Hughie Green oh Hughie Green we're closing this podcast by referencing Hughie Green I remember telling my mum and dad that Ray sometimes does little anecdotes. Yeah, exactly. About Huey Green. Oh, Huey Green. We're closing this podcast by referencing Huey Green. He's always been in the interview with Jimmy and Mick. Yeah, he has.

All right, then. We have to do the credits ourselves. No point wrapping it up now. Oh, yeah, they didn't do them, did they? Well, it wasn't because they wouldn't do them. Yeah, they forgot because they're so old. No, hang on. Let's just get this right, what happened.

Ed Gamble, who was in charge of the recording, because he's too young to have a conversation with grown-ups. Yeah. You accidentally started exporting it before we'd done the credits. Before we'd done the credits, but to be honest, they were chatting and Mick was on his feet anyway. We can't really stop and hold them on any longer, because they were, ba-ba-ba, next thing, next thing.

Yeah, next thing. So we just grabbed a photo. We got the photo, so that proves that it was them. Yeah, it was them, definitely. But we didn't. So here's the credits. All right, I'll do it as them. No, I'll do it.

I'll just do it, I'll see if I can remember it Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh podcast was a ready production hosted by chortle.co.uk come here and there's more

today's guests were Mick Miller and Jimmy Cricket oh that's me and they'll be touring around the country from now right through

until October so check out your local theatre for listings or go on their website Mick Mick.com don't run the Twitter until October so check out your local theatre for listings or go on their website Mick Mick.com They're on the Twitter

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by Thomas Fondure See you tomorrow I actually thought Lee Matt was going to be the worst one of the run but it turned out it was you Weird Yeah, tomorrow! I actually thought Lee Matt was going to be the worst one of the run, but it turned out it was you.

Weird.