The Peacock and Gamble Podcast - The Peacock and Gamble Podcast: Edinburgh Fringe 2012 Episode 23 (Imaan Hadchiti)

Episode Date: February 14, 2021

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And now it's time for our regular section, What's Up With Ray Today? Oh, well that is a regular section because that's all this podcast is. What's Ray's illness today? That's all this podcast has ever been, mate. Well, yesterday I'd done a bad throat. Yeah, you did done a bad throat. I've still got some of that. Yeah, that is there. The day before I had a blocked up nose. You've got all of your throat. All my throat is still there. I'm still a bit touch and go, as you can probably hear by my voice. Yeah. The day before I had a blocked up nose, and today I've got a lovely cough, which just happens every now

and again. Hacking cough. All the way through my sleep. Yeah. But don't worry, because I've got some medicine. It's from Tollcross Pharmacy. Are we just advertising that? Who you can contact on 0131 229 7778. That's nice. They provide lots of medicine for people. Have you agreed to do an advert

with them? Including Cavonia Chesty Cough Mix. Cavonia. Is that off the advert? Yeah. Is it? Cavonia. Is that, it made me better?

Yeah, it makes you sing that opera. Cavonia. I don't want to do that. Yeah, you do. You've always wanted to. I do a lovely bit of singing in our show, mate.

Well, no, last night you didn't because last night your voice wasn't up to it so you shouted it in a really weird way and it made me laugh until I cried on stage.

You did fall down, didn't you? Yeah, I nearly fell down. It was really funny. I had a great time. I've not had more fun on stage, really, many more times than that. Really? That was great fun.

That, and I know you were ill. Yeah. So it probably wasn't that fun for you overall as a gig. But that's what made it, because I wasn't quite all there. That's why it was funny. And then there's a little, just not even an emotional bit at the end, just a little bit that demands a little bit of silence. Yeah.

And in one of those silences, in one of those pauses that are full of pathos and emotion, some fireworks went off, some consecutive fireworks went off. Like that. Yeah, almost like a fart. So Ray punctured the silence after those fireworks with, pardon me. Pardon me. Yeah, again, reducing me to near tears.

You went, didn't you? Yeah, but I was already on the cusp, so that was it. I was gone. But I didn't like that you criticised me to near tears. You went, didn't you? Yeah. But I was already on the cusp. So that was it. I was gone. But I didn't like that you criticised me to all the audience. Because you turned to all the audience and you went, but this is all day, this.

I know. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I just thought that was funny. Yeah, I know. But that was a funny thing. And I was sitting there while they all laughed at me.

They laughed with you, mate? They all laughed at my face. No, they didn't. All going, oh yeah, Bennett is horrible living with him. No, they didn't. Is it nice living with me Bennett is horrible living with him. No, they didn't. Is it nice living with me?

Absolutely. Well, not when you're ill. Because I worry about you when you're ill. Oh, what? Do you want to bring me some breakfast through? Bring you some breakfast through? Yeah, maybe I could sit up in the bed and you could bring me a tray of breakfast. What sort of things would you like?

What time do you want your tray of breakfast? Because I have breakfast at like half nine, ten really. That's ludicrous. I want them when I wake up. Yeah, okay. But I want it ready when I wake up. Yeah. Well, I don't know when you wake up. No, neither do I. I don't know when it's going to be. I want them when I wake up. Yeah. Okay. But I want it ready when I wake up. Yeah. Well I don't know

when you wake up. No neither do I. I don't know when it's going to be. So it'll just be raw bread. Well today I woke up at like ten. I was about to go

and interview someone didn't we? Yeah. We did our last interview today. We did. Bye bye interviews. Including this one.

There's three more no four more episodes including this one. Including this one. But we've done them all now. Yeah. Done. All finished.

All wrapped up. Just need to record the intro put them out on the day. Yeah. So any comedians that are still clinging to the hope that we're going to interview them we're not. Yeah, done. All finished. All wrapped up. Just need to record the intro, put them out on the day. Yeah, so any comedians that are still clinging to the hope that we're going to interview them,

we're not. And it's not a personal thing at all. With some of you it is. Oh, with some of them it definitely is. Just if you're thinking is it personal against me,

it's not. But with some people it is. Yeah, it could be. If it is, you'll know. Yeah, definitely. You'll get the idea. But we only had limited spaces, didn't we?

Yeah, we only had 27 episodes. Yeah, that's what we had. So what were we meant to do? 26 episodes. Also, I should apologise as well, because there's people whose shows I still haven't seen. Yeah. And at the moment, I've got a little bit of free time now. Yeah.

So, for example, I could have gone today. I want to see Silky, I want to see Toby Haydoke. Yeah. And at night time, I want to see Nish. Yeah. And I've not seen any of those shows yet. But I'm very, very aware that if I go to those shows at the moment, I'll ruin them. You'll cough through them. Yeah. So it's really... Actually, that to see Nish and I've not seen any of those shows yet but I'm very very aware that if I go to those shows at the moment

I'll ruin them you'll cough through them yeah so it's really actually that would make Nish's better alright I'll go and see Nish and have a cough there

yeah that would really help him out I don't know about Silky or Toby but you know no it'd probably ruin their show but I know specifically with Nish having seen his show in preview and I can't imagine it's changed that much

a bit of coughing would help him along it'd sort of make the silence more sort of like oh I see it's more like Pinter. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Yeah.

So who's on the podcast today? I'll tell you who. Iman Chitpumchum. Chumpumchum? Padchiti. Iman Puchitpuncha. No, you can't, that is just offensive.

Why? You can't just not learn someone's name because it's a bit foreign and then try and make it up with sound. I didn't know he had a second name.

You thought he was just called Iman? I'm sure on his flyer. That's David Bowie's wife is just called Iman. But I'm sure that on his flyer it just says Iman. It does. His show is called A Little Perspective with Iman. Yeah.

So that's the title of his show, but it's by Iman Hanchiti. Iman what? Hanchiti. Hanchiti. Yeah. I might have got it wrong, for all I know. I'm saying it very confidently.

Yeah. But Iman, definitely. I tell you what, don't learn his name, you'll recognise him. Yeah, you won't. Do you know what? I reckon if you saw him, you'd know him. Yeah. After listening to the interview. Yeah, he's got a beard. He says his own name at the end, doesn't he? Yeah, he does, yeah. So listen out for that at the end. That's a good point, you know. If we didn't know his second name and he's been around here, he could have been away with stuff. Police would come round and they'd go, right, what was his name? We'd go, Iman. Iman what? No

idea. No idea. Can you describe him as, you know, what was his name? We'd go, Iman. Iman what? No idea. No idea. Can you describe him as, you know, I'm a bloke. A normal sort of normal sized bloke. He's not, well, no, he's not normal.

Well, he's normal but he's not. Huh? Is this the bloke who'd come round and sat really far away from the mic? No, this is me.

We're having mic problems. This is where you've got it wrong. Sometimes, no, guys, sometimes we have problems with the mic and, you know, have problems with the mic.

And, you know, Ray might move the mic further towards me or further towards him or turn it away from me. And we were having real trouble that day because Iman came round and he got such a loud voice we had to sit him very far away. No, it wasn't. It was sat exactly where everyone else would be sat. Sorry? It don't matter. It don't matter, actually. Right.

We'll just listen to the interview. Okay. Don't worry about that. Yeah. Also, don't forget our show, Peacock and Gamble. Don't even want to be on telly anyway. 9.40, buzz listen to the interview. Okay. Don't worry about that. Yeah. Also don't forget our show Peacock and Gamble don't even want to be on telly anyway.

9.40 plus a dome, dome, dome, dome. Yeah so as of today there are for us four shows left. For you if you're

listening to this on the day it comes out there are three shows left. Three shows left. Three shows. Exciting. And then we burn

it all down. We burn it all down don't we? Never perform it again. No we're doing a tour. We're doing a like

40 date national tour. Oh shut your mouth I've got a tour. We're doing a 40-date national tour. Oh, shut your mouth. I've got a cough. Well, the first one's on September 7th. You're joking. I'm not joking, mate. It's next week. First one's on September 7th at Porthcawl Grand Pavilion.

Oh, not fucking Porthcawl. Oh, mate. Not that one. Mate, don't say that. That's an awful gig. Yeah, I know, but they don't know that. Get down there. That's the first one of our tour?

Yeah. Well, that's cursed, isn't it, from day one? Right, well, okay. Right, we're cancelling that. Just that bloke in that wheelchair always comes in. Yeah, but he laughs. He does laugh as well, but if you have a bit of fun with him, the rest of the audience go all weird.

Anyway, never mind that. Let's just have a nice, normal interview now with Iman. Yeah. At your beach, oh. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. So, we're here with our first overseas guest first overseas guest oh really

yeah I think you're thinking you are man I think we're have we let's go through them all no let's not go through them all I can't think of anyone else

Greg Davis UK Lee Mack UK Russell Howard UK that's as far as I can remember right Richard Herring UK Richard Herring UK

yeah but is he though is Richard Herring UK is he is I don't know I don't know who is Richard Herring UK. Richard Herring UK. Yeah, but is he though? Is Richard Herring UK? Is he? Is he? I don't know. I don't know. Who is Richard Herring? Good question. Exactly.

And that's the next question everyone's been asking. And furthermore, what is Richard Herring? Nice. We know that. Slam into him more. He's not a prick really, is he? What I get concerned about is people... This happened when we used to do the podcast with Raji.

Yeah. Because they heard us taking the piss out of him, out of Raji and they heard us messing about with Raji and then they all started doing it and I don't want

people to go and start shouting at Richard or his fans to start shouting at us. We're pals in real life, it's just been a bit of

a joke for everyone but anyway never mind that dickhead. We are here with Iman who is, where are you from? I'm from Melbourne

Melbourne Australia the big apple yeah you could call it that you call every city the big apple has it got a nickname Melbourne it's the place to be

apparently oh really that's our little slogan that they have do you follow the Melbourne Storm pardon do you follow

Melbourne Storm I don't follow rugby why because my neck turns I love rugby league Melbourne Storm? Melbourne Storm. I don't follow rugby. Why? Because my neck turns. I love rugby league.

Yeah, I mean, I get into it a little bit, but I'm more of a sort of AFL. What does that mean? Aussie rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've been actually following the soccer, football. Over here? Over here, yeah. Who have you been following? But I'm trying to do it in the closet

so no one knows I actually like football I think you'd be allowed to like it yeah you're allowed yeah you are allowed

I'm allowed I'm just not allowed to go and chant who are ya who are ya you could do that mate you would freak

them the fuck out I would actually I would go to a football match to watch that and I'm not a fan of football you went in with

who are ya and they go who are you yeah who are you? And they go, who are you? Yeah, who are you? What? What is that?

But we'll get to that later on because that's kind of obvious questions and also we're on a podcast. Yeah. So are you, you gig in Melbourne, you gig in Australia? Yes,

I've just recently moved to London. Oh, so you are over here now? Yeah, only two weeks before the festival. Oh, wow, okay. So you moved to London two weeks before are over here now yeah only two weeks before the festival oh wow okay so you moved to London two weeks before you came to

Scotland for a month yeah why? because I had to rent it before alright okay I had to get you know get the room

it was a good deal yeah yeah so you're based over here now based over here and that's the plan to stay based over here yeah until I kick a set right okay

how long can you get away with saying two years alright okay you've got two years to make it. It's a hard Two years to

make it big. That's going to be amazing. It's like a race against time, it's tough. That's really cool,

that's really really cool. I like that, having a time limit on it. I panic, I know what I like with

time limits, I panic right up until the last two months and then go oh fuck, I better try. Yeah,

two months is going to happen. Try and cram it into the last two months yeah so until then just enjoy the sun

yeah think about it you know you come from Melbourne so just enjoy the weather yeah

it's actually quite lovely it's nice it's pretty warm and muggy there was that a plan with you

because the comedy scene in Australia is a bit weird I believe I've never been yeah it's I think the word for it is shit.

Right, okay. I spoke to Mick Milley the night about it, and he went, we've got eight fucking clubs. Yeah, it's true. In the whole of Australia, there's only like maybe eight or nine proper clubs. But isn't that weird when there's such a...

There's so many comics in Australia. Yeah, so many comics. And decent comics, too. And that's the problem. There's too many comics, not enough people watching comedy. Is that what it is? Because there's a theory that whenever it's sunny, people are already happy. They don't want to see comedy.

Yeah. But when it's miserable and cold and raining. And broken. And broken and angry and, you know, stacked on top of each other, you need to laugh. Right. So there's more need to see comedy so that's why everyone comes here Edinburgh, that's why it's perfect for comedy although this year it's been really sunny

and you know what? 10 hours has been down not for us weirdly I think we'll always be the exception to the rule so if everyone's doing well we'll sell fuck all if no one's selling any we'll sell be the exception to the rule. Yeah. So if everyone's doing well, we'll sell fuck all. If no one's selling any, we'll sell out.

Yeah. What? Yeah. That's so awkward. Always making it as difficult as possible. I've been in a cab just now, and me and Ed were saying that it's just like, everything is stacked against this city for doing comedy in it. Or even doing a festival, an arts festival, shows,

just anywhere that requires you to sit in a little black box for a while. Because it was like do you want to go and see a show at the top of the sill do you want to go and see I know it's hot

outside and wet but do you want to go and get more humid go and get more humid in this room it's really bizarre but I think

that's a good point if it is that awful and people are so pissed off about the weather then it's probably quite a good thing to go and see

some cool weather but then again would you not say that when it's been raining outside it gigs harder to get the audience but when they come

in they're a bit sort of wet and they're a bit sort of no I haven't noticed that personally I think we just

had a bad night that night all my gigs are rubbish you've always got a weather based excuse it's raining

at all my gigs if it starts raining inside the venue, I think that might be an issue. Yeah. That's just a fire alarm. Yeah. So how long have you been a commenter for?

Seven years. Because you told me you're how old are you? 22. 22. So you've been a commenter since you were five. Is that the maths? Nearly, mate. Nearly five.

Yeah. Yeah, I started really young. Really? At 15, I started really young. Really? At 15, I did like a say you think you're funny competition but find the 18 year olds. Okay. Class clowns.

Cool. And I won it. The first three gigs I did in front of 400, 800 and then 1,000 people. Wow, wow, okay. And that's what I started. Yeah, yeah. And then did a club in front of 20.

Oh, this is this is the real stuff yeah did you notice a genuine difference in that was there a real yeah

it was a shock for me yeah it was like a whole new I did that gig in the club and I was like oh this is my first gig now

yeah this is where it starts and now I guess that's the challenge if you still enjoyed that yeah with that drop off then you know

you want to keep going with it I was yeah I mean I've been very lucky because I didn't know what I was saying when I was 15 but I was saying it

really well right yeah and does that bear any resemblance to the material you do now no not at all I did a lot of

sort of cheap short puns and you know took the piss out of myself yeah yeah whereas now I've kind of

swapped it around I'm taking the piss out of everyone's reactions to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, to your size. Yeah, of course. Because I did a gig with you, God, it was like last week, but it feels like fucking three months ago. But we did a gig together,

which was, I think, certainly in my top three bits of stand-up I've seen at the Fringe. Oh, wow, thank you. Definitely, in that you, because you only got there in time. We didn't know whether or not you were going to be there

on time or not. It was going to be an interval that would bring you on. Yeah. And then I brought you on. I think I'd met you already the night before briefly in the Gilded Garden.

And I brought you on. And not many people in that room could see you. Yeah. They were just pissed, were they? No. No, no. It was just the way it was.

Literally, the way it was set out. Because it's that weird thing, you know. Because we had a thing where when I asked you to was just the way it was. Literally, the way it was set out. Because it's that weird thing, you know. Because we had a thing where, when I asked you to be on the podcast. Yeah. And I immediately said, now, the thing is. It's a whole bunch of fucking stairs. It's really up, it's up these stairs.

And I don't know, you know, you catch yourself doing things. And I'm like, well, we have to get in a cushion. Yeah. And you do start thinking all those things. Yeah. And again, not out of yeah I mean that's a normal

behaviour it is but it's also it is still a thing of going he can't do things we can do yeah

when you can yeah so it's that assumption on our side it's like a friend of mine met you the other

night and apparently that's changed he was going it's a really lovely blot no he is I've spoken to him

a few times actually it's got really lovely blouse I was like no it is I've spent it a few times and she went it's got really little hands and we went of course it's got little hands it would be bizarre if you had massive hands I was in the loft bar and there was this guy

who wanted to have my number he was booking for something I don't know a bit of schmoozing going on and I gave him my number and he was sitting on his phone and he was putting

my name in and he started writing little P-E-R really and I'm like oh my god this guy's going to write little person

what an arse what a dick how dare he and I was going to say something but I let him finish and he wrote little perspective

which is the name of my show it was almost almost a catastrophe on my part being a dick i was a dick and it was yeah the name of your show so we'll get to the show in a sec but i also want to address that the way that people react to you and and you must be aware of it happening even when they're not engaging you yeah so it must be something that you're you're aware of that people look and people you know not fucking point or well i say that i do i say yeah

i say that but after that gig we did together where you ripped the arse out of it was really great again the other thing that happened as well i didn't know where to put the mic yeah i was comparing i had no idea do i take it off and give it to him do i leave it on the stand well i didn't know what to do either way yeah you know I always make a joke yeah no of course yeah yeah yeah because he put the mic when I came back

he put the mic on the floor for me which was quite nice but then at that point I just went you little shit I will fucking drop it to the audience

going no that's the problem isn't it people we've had this discussion before that audiences often get offended on other people's behalf yeah yeah that's the most

condescending thing yeah you have no right to be offended don't take my offence yeah of course

so after that show we were outside I'm going to chat before you left and it started to really

annoy me and it really did bug me in a massive way that people that were just walking past

on the street stopped and had their photo with you yeah it was genuinely driving me insane so how how is that from your side um see it depends on my mood yeah generally like you know after a good gig where you know like i said i smashed it i'll be like yeah i don't really give it you know whatever if it's been from the audience yeah yeah this is just part of punt it outside the street if I'm in a good mood I will generally go okay quickly

so I can give them the fuck away yeah but there's sometimes where it just gets a bit too much and I usually just go hey I'm not Edinburgh Castle

fuck off yeah it's what I don't know what's the reason yeah why would someone think that why would someone go

I'm going to get a photo. Yeah, exactly. But I've seen it with you so much, this fringe, like so much. I've seen it in the Gilded Gardens when you're out flyering.

I've seen it like so much. Do you know, I've gotten, when I did Adelaide Fringe, I would happen a lot and I would say, if you want a photo with me, come to my show

and I'll give you a photo afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20% of my tickets sold came from people. From photos. I had a Japanese

couple sitting in the front row you know saying a word of English eating popcorn spent $40 20 pounds

to sing my show didn't say a word didn't laugh just talked to each other yeah came out just for the photo wow

well sure you could photoshop that easy sure I mean there might be now that people that go well that is photoshopped even there might be now and then people that go, well, that is

photoshopped. Even when they get it, it's like, no, that's not real. That's not a little man. So what we're

going with, I know if we're using it as a description, a descripting? Descripting. A description. A describing

term. Little person? Little man? I prefer the term, migga. Little person. Little man. I prefer the term migga. Migga. Migga. Brilliant.

Brilliant. But not migga. Migga, that's inappropriate. Migga is for you. Migga. That's the right phrase. I can say migga. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we've... So we've sat here for the last 20 minutes, skating around the issue, and you go straight in. And that was in your set, wasn't it? You mentioned that in your set. Yeah, that is in my set, but I actually want that phrase to be coined.

I want people to start calling people niggers. Yeah. I reckon it would be really funny. Yeah. For a bit. Yeah, until yeah for a bit until it becomes a genuinely derogatory term yeah until people start becoming it's going to be hilarious when we call you that

loudly in the gilded garden when you're out flyering what's up my migger so I've seen you flyering most nights because we tend to wander over to the end of the garden after our show and stuff. I'm a minute there. Your fly-in technique is second to none, in my opinion,

in that you wander around. What is your height? Do you mind asking your height? Three, four, I think. Three, four. What was the bet we had before? I didn't have a bet. We did, we had a bet.

We were sitting in Coke cans. How big is he? How big Coke cans is he? you said come on okay right we said in Coke cans how big is he in Coke cans how big Coke cans is he well company

yeah yeah four Pringles tubes four Pringles tubes four Pringles tubes and iron broom

so you you wander around not aimlessly but you wander around the Gullit Garden aimlessly is

pretty accurate hey that's that in a minute but the other side of the thing of people coming up to you and wanting not aimlessly but you wander around the Gulligard aimlessly is pretty accurate hey that's that in a minute but the other side of the thing of people coming up to you and wanting photos and stuff

is I've also noticed that you're very much a ladies magnet yeah I also have another theory about this I'm like the gay friend with ladies

okay they kind of feel comfortable around me yeah I'm not a threat when they play with their tits for a while then they fuck my mate.

That's just, you know, that's just the way it is. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, because women... I mean, it's not a bad deal. That's been the same with most girls

that have come back to our house. But yeah, that is like, that is a thing of, you know, where women do feel comfortable around me. Yeah, yeah. They tell me things I don't want to know.

And, you know, but I use them against them and it's great yeah no I saw you all over two last days the other night I think they were

dancing with you for a bit yeah when you were flyering yeah oh yeah the flyers

I always had fun with the flyers and then I remember seeing a lady give you a big hug and I was like look where he's living look where he's living

right now all I could see was your hands behind her just patting her on the back I was like you little jammy fucker look at you But where he's living right now, all I could see was your hands behind her just patting her on the back. You're a little jammy fucker looking at her.

So you go around with a megaphone, you have a megaphone. Yeah. What was the thing you said the other night that made me scream laughing? If you can hear me and can't see me, do I really exist? Yeah. So just this voice coming from nowhere. And then there's a lovely thing when people realise who it is. Yeah. When you're there

I mean it is you know it's not people aren't freaked out at all it is like a very everyone's quite happy with you

with you being there but are you finding that there's more people just happy to see you as a thing than to come to your show a little bit

I've stopped the megaphone as much have you yeah yeah and I've actually gotten better numbers oh really because

yeah I find that people kind of go well we've seen him he's running around phone as much have you yeah yeah and I've actually gotten better numbers oh really because um yeah I find that people kind of go well we've seen him yeah yeah surely that's all he's going to do in the night

bit of acrobatics probably backflip I had a Saturday audience like that just a whole bunch of you know dicks and everything

wankers with no necks just staring they're staring at me not laughing just seeing the short guy talk like that was you know

I used to when I first started doing comedy to get paid I did the freak show circuit right horrible stuff but literally

people would come I'd do my stand up set and they'd just they wouldn't they'd just watch the short man talk is there such a thing as a freak show circuit

yeah there is is that in Australia yeah and you know there is I mean there's always like they package it differently yeah but that's where it boils down to yeah yeah yeah Is there such a thing as a freak show circuit? Yeah, there is. Is that in Australia? Yeah, you know, there is. I mean, there's always like, they package it differently. Yeah, but that's what it boils down to. Yeah.

It is what it is. They tend to package it over here like it's like rock and roll type thing. Yeah. Or like the Jim Rose sort of thing. Well, it almost seems, I don't know, Tiger Lilies did. Yeah, it's also packaged as sort of like a... Yeah, Tiger Lilies. Yeah, like a vaudeville kind of thing yeah

it's part of a retro thing yeah but that is still what it is so yeah and I did that for a couple of years

but yeah I still get that sort of what my goal is to kind of make sure that people see me as a comic first yeah yeah

because if I was tall I'd still be doing stand up like you know this is all I know stand up is in my blood there's just less blood

but it is still something to get over isn't it but also for an audience let's not credit everyone with just being able to go

that's just a bloke because people can't do that some can some can't so you know you can't

for someone's natural reaction you can't always condemn them you know, you can't necessarily, for someone's natural reaction, you can't always condemn them for it, but you can educate it. Yeah, exactly. And that's the point of, you know,

that is the point of my stand-up, is to educate it, quickly, so when I can do my next hour, I don't always have to mention. Yeah, of course. Yeah,

of course. So, is that your goal? Because your show this year is called A Little Perspective. Yeah. And you got, you got very angry the other day because you said about some of you sometime that said why is it all from his perspective

yeah yeah i got it i got i got a really yeah she she didn't like that i actually had a perspective on other things other than being short yeah all right so so because i i i have quite strong views on religion yeah and i didn't like you straying outside. She's like, how dare he have an opinion? This show's about him being short and the tribunes of that. Yeah, yeah. But surely the title's a double meaning anyway. Yeah, exactly. It's perspective in general.

It's just your general perspective. Yeah. But also, given what we were just saying about you can't stop people's natural reactions, things like that really are a barrier to progressing beyond any sort of, you know, to what's considered normal. You know, it's the same thing with weight, it's the same thing with height,

you know, Greg Davis with his height, people just can't, we did exactly the same thing when we spoke to him, he's a very, very tall guy, you know, we chatted about that. If people are saying, well, or in as many words,

well, I want to just hear about him being short, and I don't't I'm not interested in other things just tell us about that and about have you been knocked over or anything you know if that's

if that's what they want do you know what I mean then saying that in a review particularly in a review that's a really bad review because that's a really that's genuinely like

saying about a black comic well why are they discussing white issues yeah well do you know if someone reads her review or him, whoever it was,

and they see what she's saying and they get, like, people who can think will see that and go, that's obviously a bad review, she's missed the point, I want to see his show. So, it's polarised it. So the people that will go yeah I agree

I only want to hear him talk about short people well they can fuck off I don't want to be in my show yeah yeah yeah so you know yeah yeah yeah so it's a good thing

it's sorting the wheat from the chaff anyway so the goal would be though for you would be that it just doesn't ever need to be mentioned yeah

or just mentioned once yeah yeah you know yeah I guess in club sets it would be a thing that just oh you've got to do it you just have to you have to dispatch until you're going to get a name Or just mention once. Yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah. I guess in club sets, it would be a thing of just...

Oh, you've got to do it. You just have to... You have to dispatch it. Until you kind of get a name and people know you. But is it not just tacit? It's just there, isn't it? Yeah. Like, you know, your size is just there.

Yeah. And naturally, a lot of my jokes are about being short because I'm very anecdotal in my jokes. Yeah, yeah. So it's always going to have that element because that's

just who I am and it impacts on your life it's when people want it to be the punchline constantly that's the

difference so after Edinburgh what's your plan try the London circuit how many years have you got after Edinburgh

so you're down to 23 months then 23 months yeah 23 months I think we should do a podcast a month where we just chart

a man's progress he's living on the street month 24 we've got information about where he is if you are from the office that is in charge of people coming in

and out yeah I mean yeah the office that is in charge of people coming in and out yeah I mean yeah the plan now is to do as many club gigs as I can write a new hour

yeah and take it to the Melbourne festival Melbourne and Adelaide festivals yeah do you have an

invite to that or are you going to just go and do it um Adelaide I always have an invite

okay not so much we'll see how we go okay um but I definitely do Adelaide Fringe

Adelaide Fringe is fantastic yeah yeah do that and then bring that show to Edinburgh cool and then stay here for the next

whatever months however many months you're allowed you're allowed unless you've been on Mock the Week and then you can probably get another three months

out of it I can do Mock the Week I'll show you Mock the Week's three Mock the Week's three months and then two months have I got news for you. Yeah, you get two months I've got news for you.

Why don't you remind the Buscocks? How is that? Buscocks, it literally counts for nothing. It's weird, isn't it? Because it's probably

the better of the three programmes. Now, if my repeats are on Dave two years later am I allowed to come back and leave? No, they take a month off for that.

You will learn very fast that repeats on Dave two years later am I allowed to come back and live no they take a month off for that you will learn very fast that repeats on Dave are worth shit because we're repeated on Dave regularly

and don't get a penny for it no money yeah I've been repeated on E4 I did Balls of Steel

Australia and it's been played more here than in Australia and I'm getting more people seeing played more here than in Australia and I'm getting more people seeing me from here because you guys

love that shit I saw a news article it was an ITN news article with you on it which was about I think it was World's Shortest

Comedian or something like that I wanted to ask you about it because it looked like it was at some sort of red carpet event it was at one of

these it was a circus show that I was hosting okay fine I honestly thought

is that an awards tournament I've not heard about the world's shortest comedian

and like just loads of them going well right all up against the wall

just you and Susan Calman going Susan I think you've lost again

yeah I've actually Guinness contacted me wanting to actually make it official. That I'm the shortest full-time stand-up comic. Right. Which means I'm the shortest, dumbest person in the world.

Wow, are you going to go for that? I'm not sure. That's alright. I'll go for it, but I don't know whether I'll put it on my flyers. If you go for one, yeah, it'll be alright. Yeah, it should be alright. Yeah, I don't know if I... It's something that's going to become, let you say,

if the idea is to step in one way away from it, then... It's a tricky balance though, isn't it? Probably if you've got something like that, and you know that that could help sell tickets, because everyone's always searching for an angle, or a press angle, like everyone is, but it's about trying to make it so it's not all about that, but also have an element of that to bring people in for the off,

so then you can show them exactly what you can do. Yeah, exactly right. That is the weird part, but like we were saying, you don't want people just turning up to just stare at you. Exactly, yeah. So that's the kind of, you know, and I do get a lot more opportunities being shorter because people book me more.

Yeah. But I kind of feel like it is my, because I've got this opportunity to be in the eye quicker that I've got the responsibility to be a funnier comic I have to rise again so even if those people came in

just on the short thing then you've got to really grab it by the bollocks as soon as they're in there easy that grab them easy the bollocks unless they're dickheads then it's a whole thing scruff of the neck

you're gonna struggle with pick up and gamble pick up and gamble um it's uh no but it is it's interesting isn't it because that first time

I saw you at that gig like because I'd met you and I thought you were sounding that and then when I saw you and I didn't know what to expect to be honest with you

but I was like he's a really good comic yeah yeah but he's a really like it was and I wonder now whether I had a perception of like yeah or maybe it's just going to be like yeah and oh I can look up your skirts oh

I don't know what I thought it was going to be yeah but the fact you went on there and fucking nailed things and it wasn't all about that at all you know you addressed it but it wasn't about that there was all like you said the religious stuff and that and it was a really strong set and it was pretty impressive

and I wonder whether it's easier for you to do it or harder for you to do it and I suspect it's harder harder to do

harder for you to establish yourself on the night as in the moment to establish yourself as a serious comic for want of a better phrase

as a credible comic yeah a for want of a better phrase as a incredible comic yeah it depends on the audience really it really depends on the vibe of the gig

you know if I go out there and grab it and just just take it then the audience will go wow

you know they get they do they can't see it and they go yeah well done and I've had you know

dicks come up to me and go can I have a photo I said no come to my show and then after the show they come and they can't see it and they go, yeah, well done. And I've had, you know, dicks come up to me and go, can I have a photo? I said, no, come to my show. Yeah. And then after the show

they come and they go, you're really funny and I apologise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But can I get that photo? Yeah,

but can I get a photo to show you that I'm, you know. Yeah, I'm willing to wear this. Yeah. But yeah, so there is that sort of,

you do see the change in people, you know, from the start of the hour to the end of it people go yeah that's really cool yeah

it's really cool to see what actually happens it's very rare when it actually happens it's like yeah it's actually I'm doing something

yeah yeah yeah it just occurred to me that we get we always get a fight with our guests but we do it with everyone yeah

oh yeah oh yeah that's all good man we do it with everyone yeah oh yeah oh yeah that's all good man we can show you we can show you everyone is on there well I I don't actually believe you

but yeah not everyone gets to stand on the table and do a starter we tried to get Tim Bynes to do that and he would have

who's having none of it but I don't know I think you're going to look lovely the way but we're just throwing you between us have you been happy with the film

have you been happy with it yeah yeah it's been a lot of fun I've done it as part of the as small as I can

yeah not spend not invest too much in it and just just you know my flyering is a strong point of getting people in yeah so I've been small budget and I it and just, just, you know, my flyering is a strong point

of getting people in. Yeah. So I've been, small budget and I've been really happy with it. You know, it's an achievable goal and almost there.

Almost there. How long is that for now? Six shows. That's the one we're recording this. It's six shows, isn't it? Yeah. Six shows. Yeah.

Wow. And then straight back down to London to live your dream. Live my dream. Have you got gigs in and stuff? Are you booked up I've got a couple of weekends booked

for this circus thing yeah that's money in the bank yeah and then I'm just going to visit as many clubs as I can go hey look at me

I'm here yeah because I really suck at emailing people yeah awful at texting as well yeah awful at texting

dreadful at texting sorry you had two days of panic not knowing whether or not you're coming or not people. Obviously awful at texting as well. Yeah awful at texting. Dreadful at texting. Sorry. You had two days of panic not knowing whether or not you're coming or not. And I have had no credit.

No credit. That's what you found out. I reckon first thing you do when you get down to London contract fine. Yeah I've got to

get a bank account first. Right bank account right get yourself a bank account. Which is a really hard thing apparently. Is it?

If you don't have a driver's licence. Which I do, but it's in Australian. So it's a hard... I should have brought it with you. Here's what you need to do, right. First thing we need to do is get back to London. Okay. New school uniform.

That's the first thing we're doing when you get back. Get yourself a bank account. Okay. Contract phone. Contract phone. Yeah. Who do you recommend? That's that guy.

I'm with Orange. Orange, so am I. Orange, okay. But I wouldn't say I recommend them particularly. I'll tell you what, what they're good at is a nice little plug for Orange. Yeah. They rang me up recently and said, you can upgrade your phone. And I went, oh, I think I'm going to wait for the iPhone 5. So I'm not going to upgrade it yet.

And they went, well, because of that, what are we going to do? We're going to wait on this for the iPhone 5. And your contract now is halved until that point. Oh, that to do? And I'm waiting on a wait list with FM5. And your contract now is halved until that point. Oh, that's lovely. Your monthly

contract is halved until that point. Yeah. And he didn't need to tell me that. He could have just said,

all right. Yeah. But he still told me. And now I'm paying a half that I was paying a mum.

Once they've heard that this has definitely gone on the podcast, it's halved. Once they've heard the plug.

Yeah. That's the agreement, isn't it? Well, I've not done all of it yet right and they said oh yeah they do

say orange like three or four times in the podcast okay so that's three now is it yeah they've got to say orange blue don't you count

that cancels one of the oranges counteracting orange do you know what I wouldn't have a clue to go with I wouldn't even say you definitely need to have a contract with

I would just say, just text us back. I think that's fair. Yeah. So the end of this podcast is going to be not just a plug for your show, but an apology. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for all the Australians coming in and taking all your women and all your jobs. They don't take our women. And all your beer.

They're not interested in our women are they not no not bothered because they're all puffs and Fosters

is that a real beer no in Australia we don't drink it we actually laugh at

we're always laughing until we realise that Fosters isn't even Australian anymore is it not is it brilliant UK yeah so um what a little round up there it was nice laugh it. We were always laughing until we realised that Fosters isn't even Australian anymore. Is it not? Is it brilliant UK?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I love a little round up there. It was nice. Well, do you want to mention the products? Because we've all mentioned something now.

I should mention something, shouldn't I? What coffee are you drinking? Oh, a Costa, a lovely big Costa coffee there. Yeah. I don't know why

I'm turning it around to the mic, the late one. I'm going to show you there the Costa. That's it. It's lovely. It's very refreshing

on this 30 degree day stupidly hot isn't it next to an argo that was Iman there Iman Chakabudu he said his own name and you're still getting it wrong Chakam

Chikichuchu Chikacan so that was Iman Chikacan and obviously we'll be back tomorrow we've got an interview tomorrow with Angela Barnes

Angela Barnes Angela Barnes filth it was filth wasn't it absolute filth I tell you what I can't tell you right I know some of you have a little wank

when you listen to these podcasts mate but tomorrow mate what do you mean I know some of you have a little wank when you're listening to these I can't imagine that

people do things that different to me what I'm saying is I'd imagine someone's had a wank with this on in the background and I'm sure we got a message someone's had a wank with this on in the background and I'm sure we got

a message saying that someone had had sex with it on in the background but no one has ever had sex or wanked because of it. I couldn't have sex

with this on in the background. Well no, not you because you wouldn't be able to have sex with your own voice in the background would you?

No, I once had sex when... I have trouble enough listening to myself just in the moment. Yeah, the noises you're making. I once had sex and I was listening to John Williams in the moment yeah the noises you're making yeah I once had sex

and I was listening to John Williams music well that must have made it seem everything quite epic no because it was like a best of John Williams right so it's like Star Wars

Superman Raiders of the Lost Ark Jaws so it was switching up rhythms in fact Jaws was during a penis mouth with the lady with the penis mouth was it

yeah yeah it was yeah wow and it was I did like half way through and go put side B on I think

because yeah side B is lesser known stuff yeah because it it transported you to those films they were just they were two

and the rhythm three you did it yeah two in my consciousness Jaws probably yeah scared me Jaws scared me

Jaws probably worked quite nicely then it was horrible Superman it built Superman didn't even make me feel like Superman it was more like

I felt like Superman might be on his way it was weird you thought Superman might be on his way to take the woman away yeah Imperial March

from Star Wars I can't keep up with that it's not sexy it's not sexy at all no no no so that's my advice don't do sex in with John Williams

music in the background we like you John Williams I think you're brilliant we think you're great, but... Absolutely amazing. Your music is not designed to bang to. Yeah, you know for the old In-N-Out. That's my phrase about John Williams.

Yeah. So our show, Peacock and Gamble, don't even want to be on telly anyway, 9.40 at the Pleasant Stone Dome for three more nights. Yes, and you can come to that if you want. And if you can't come to it, we're going to start plugging the national tour as of today. Peacockandgamble.com.

Check out... We are doing gigs everywhere that we're going to start plugging the national tour as of today. Peacockandgamble.com. Check out. We are doing gigs everywhere that we can manage to do gigs. Yeah. So please have a look. Some of them are at the end of this year. Some of them are into next year, sort of February, March next year. Have a look. We're probably doing a gig near you.

I think wherever you live, you can probably get to one if you really want. It's doable. They're all doable, right? And one of Richard Herring's tweets, one of the ones that was made sense yeah one time was he said my tour was on sale if i'm not doing a venue near you it's because they didn't book me yeah so we will say that now for you as well yeah it's not because we don't want to come to wherever you live yeah it's just it doesn't really work like that we can't just don't send this message saying come to Taddington Chester, right? Membery.

Come to Membery Services. Because we can't, because we're not booked there, or you don't have a theatre. If you want us to come somewhere, sort us a gig out of the theatre. Yeah, do it yourself. And then we'll come and do it. And don't say, where can I buy tickets? We are not a shop. But also, think about it.

But come anyway. Think about that, right? There's a show on at the theatre, right? Where would you buy tickets? If you were going to go and see a film yeah where would you think just think about it

think about it now think about it I tell you what we'll leave you now we're going to leave now yeah you have a little think about that and we'll come

back tomorrow and first thing we'll do we'll check to see if you've worked it out yet yeah the Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh

podcast is a ready production hosted by chortle.co.uk today's guest was Iman Hachiti and my show is A Little Perspective with Iman. It's on at midnight at the Guild of the Moon. All music by Thomas Funn and the Ray. See you tomorrow.

Bye. That's alright. You added bye to it though. Yeah, you've added bye. You're ripping on it though. We're basically testing all the comments to see if they can do it right or not

if you add a word that is doing it wrong really well you know what fuck you