The Peacock and Gamble Podcast - The Peacock and Gamble Podcast: Edinburgh Fringe 2012 Episode 25 (Les Dennis)

Episode Date: February 28, 2021

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It's the Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh Podcast Oh it is And this is the intro, I'm Ray Peacock Hello, I'm Ed Gamble And do you know what, I might make the intro just run straight into the outro Oh really? Just for a bit of fun That's a good idea isn't it?

Yeah, it's a fun way of doing it, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. And it is a deliberate decision. Yeah. If I do that. Yeah, like yesterday, if that happened. All right, well, I might have done it yesterday. Just straight in.

It was five in the morning. Yeah. And I was tired and I could barely see the computer. Just let it run straight in, mate. I'd had two bamboukas. Some bamboukas. So you was editing pissed. And, yeah, so it'll have been repaired by now

oh yeah someone will have snuck on and sorted that out yeah I'm going to fix it in a bit it's like some sort of government mistake

isn't it someone just quietly gets on with it and sorts it out it really panicked me you know because I got a text saying that I'd done it

and I thought what if I'd just left something in because we do cut stuff out of these podcasts yeah mainly slagging all you lot off

individually loads of things but like proper misbehaviour that we wouldn't want for public consumption of course yeah Yeah. Because we do cut stuff out of these podcasts. Yeah, mainly slagging all you lot off individually. Loads of things, but like proper misbehaviour that we wouldn't want for public consumption. Of course, yeah. And what if we just missed some of that one day? Well, it'd be a bit of controversy. Wouldn't it? Get people in for our tour. Yeah, I'd like that as well.

Yeah, exactly, yeah. I was a bit off-kilter yesterday anyway. Were you? Two reasons. One, my voice. And you didn't have your kilt on. My kilt was gone. Yeah.

My voice is a bit cockeyed. Yeah, your voice is cockeyed. Yeah. Your voice shouldn't even have eyes. It's tremendously frustrating though, because it's not, my voice. And you didn't have your kilt on. My kilt was gone. Yeah. My voice is a bit cock-eyed. Yeah, your voice is cock-eyed. Yeah. Your voice shouldn't even have eyes. It's tremendously frustrating, though, because it's not painful. No. It's just gone. And you're feeling slightly better in yourself.

I'm alright. It's just the voice now. It's just my voice. Yeah, sorry, mate. It's a horribly frustrating thing to do. Yeah. And also, Jerry Nelson died yesterday. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was one of the original Muppet performers. Yeah. And he did The Count in Sesame Street. Yeah. Famously. And Gerbo Fraggle and all that. Yeah, very sad. And he did The Count in Sesame Street, famously. And Gerbo Fraggle and all that. Yeah, very sad. And I woke up to read that, and that made me sad.

It had been poorly for a long time, but... Yeah. So maybe it put your illness into perspective. Yeah, maybe it did a little bit, yeah. But yeah, it made me a bit sad, because, you know, there's not many of them left now. No. There's only Frank Oz and Dave Goulds left, really. Yeah, I'm sorry, mate.

Yeah. I mean, everyone has their day, don't they? They do have their day, but they're important people. But it's just important that they may not be here anymore, but we can just remember them. Yeah, I suppose we can remember them, but, you know, they were just a name going by very fast on the credits. Yeah. Yet they were very, very important. But now we're talking, but yet we're talking about them.

Yeah. So they are very important, and they're getting... Finally, someone is saying how good they are on a big platform like this. That's a good point actually. They are getting the recognition they want

on an international scale. Yeah. Technically. Technically. And speaking of technically by the way, that was another... Well actually,

it was welcome in our show yesterday. Yeah, we had a technical snafu right in the middle of the show. Yeah. I turned around and realised that the screen was off. Yeah, it was just a pop but the screen went and all the sound went. Yeah, oh, we had a technical snafu. Right in the middle of the show. Yeah. I turned around and realised the screen

was off. Yeah, it was just a pop and the screen went and all the sound went. Yeah. Yeah. And we need that.

Yeah, we do need that. Even though, Sophie, right? Yeah. Yeah. Big tits. From the back, right? We went, oh no, the

screen has gone off. And clearly just panicked for a second and she went, just carry on, we'll get it sorted. Yeah. She's seen the show.

She knows we can't carry on. We need the screen. Yeah. She's seen the show she knows we can't carry on. We need the screen. We need the screen. But we've not written a show without the screen. And then we can't carry on when Ben

who is the venue manager is just running across the stage. Yeah. We can't not reference that. Yeah exactly. That our lighthouse has been invaded

by Adrian Mole. Scuttling around everywhere. Yeah scuttling around everywhere. I mean he did that with confidence but I know for a fact he didn't have a clue

what he was doing no idea ran straight across the front of the stage oh it all sorted out in the end didn't it oh in the end when you went and did it

yeah when I went and turned the projector back on yeah that's all it needed but we er well it did afford us it afforded me a little break

you got a little break and I got to shout at everyone I just sat down yeah exactly yeah asked everyone if they knew any jokes yeah I just shouted at people and said that we'd

worked really hard on all the screen and thought we were going to win an award yeah exactly and that was it and then we had a quick game

of Carol McGiffin a very quick game of Carol McGiffin if you don't know what that is tough yeah it's a game we invented

called Carol McGiffin yeah and if you've been to our live shows you'd know about it yeah very good game it's a brilliant game

we had a quick play of that not a textbook brilliant game no it wasn't I cheated a bit rushed but yeah it was fun

so then after the stress of that yeah it's a fun show though no it was very very fun I'm just not enjoying it because it's frustrating me

being on stage I'm enjoying it I know I'm really enjoying it fair to think I'm enjoying it more now you're not not that I can't talk

not that I get enjoyment out of you not enjoying it. Yeah. I'm just trying to enjoy it for two. Yeah. But I mean, I want it to be. Like when you see pregnant ladies. Yeah. They enjoy things for two, don't they?

When you see a pregnant lady on a roller coaster, they'll be really going for it, like really screaming. Yeah, because proper screaming. Screaming and crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they've got a little baby inside yeah and they've got the belt on nice and tight

to keep the baby safe or like or like when a woman when a woman is having a baby yeah like very late on in the pregnancy

yeah and her husband goes out and does sex with other women yeah it's because well she can't do the sex exactly so he has to have it for two

so he's going out having the sex for two isn't he yeah exactly yeah nice yeah and drinking as well you've got a drink for two if you're pregnant

you have yeah but we went out and had a quick drink again quite subdued me I had to be quiet I had to make my own fun I did a couple of bambukas a couple of bukkas

thought that would help my throat didn't it I just sat at the head of the table just being a nice boy and just being quiet and behaving myself well you were being

quiet definitely yeah being very quiet but we only found out sort of about 15 minutes into the quietness why you'd been so quiet. Why's that?

You'd been online on your phone. You've worked out how to do that. Yeah. I don't know who told you that. We try to keep that secret. I've learnt that. That you can go on the internet on your phone. You found some explicit pornographic pictures.

Yeah. And you started texting them to people. Yeah, sent them to Nish. Yeah. But Nish said he always worries about me when I go quiet. That's true. Because I'm up to something. Yeah, that's always true. Do you know what? It was so hard to find gay porn Yeah. But Nish said, he always worries about me when I go quiet. Well, that's true. Because I'm up to something. Yeah, that's always true.

Do you know what? It was so hard to find gay porn pictures. Really? Yeah. And I went and checked the filter. Even on your app? My app was down a time.

Right. But even on the filter, my filter was down to no filter. Yeah. And I put in gay fucking or something. Right. Nothing.

Well, what if... Gay blowjob was the one I finally found one picture. That always gets it, doesn't it? What if you just went on your grinder and just put pics, please? Yeah, just ask people for pics. Yeah, yeah if... Gay Blowjob was the one I finally found. That's the one that always gets it, doesn't it? What if you just went on your grinder and just put pics, please? Yeah, just ask people for pics. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I want to send some to Nish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Forward them to Nish. I'll do that tonight. And then Jason Dawson came over and I noticed that... TV producer. You were just smiling at him and then he got a text. I couldn't hear any of this.

Yeah. This just played out in front of me like a silent thing. It won an award. It would be a silent thing. It won an award. It would be brilliant. I could have won an award. My silent comedy what I do. Yeah. Me sending dirty pictures to TV producers.

Yeah. So all I saw was you send a text, smile at Jason. Jason picked up his phone and then looked disgusted. Yeah. Yeah, brilliant. That's appalled. And Leigh also, who works in TV as well. Yeah.

And she's quite a sensitive little thing she is on sex matters. And yeah, so she had to look at a picture of a man kissing another man's penis. Yeah, so sensitive. A big one. She had one look, she screamed and then had another look. Yeah, and then ran off. Ran off to do I don't know what. Yeah, God knows what. But anyway, today our guest is Les Dennis. Yeah, yeah, right. You heard that right. Yeah, Les Dennis. Yes, the Les Dennis. The Les Dennis. We went to his house.

Yeah. It's quite nice. Just went to Les Dennis' house. Just went around Les Dennis' house. Did an interview. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Les Dennis, mate.

Yeah. It's fine, though. It's Les Dennis. It's just, you know Les Dennis. I'll have to tell you, right. It's just him. Just went round his house. Just him.

Just went round his house, right. Went in, right. He's like, alright. That's it. Just Les Dennis him. Just went round his house. Just him. Just went round his house, right? Went in, right? He's like, alright. That's it. Just Les Dennis. Just like mates in his house. Just a chat. Yeah. Me and Ed just got up, got a taxi, went to Les Dennis' house. Yeah. Just let us in. Just, look, literally, got in the taxi, right?

Went over there. We had his address. He told us it. We know his address. Right? He told us it. He let us come over, right? Went over, knocked on his door. He opened the door. Didn't even knock on the door. No, he saw us it he let us come over went over knocked on his door he opened the door didn't even knock on the door no he saw us hello he said come in

in you come lads how are you do you want a cup of coffee genuinely Les Dennis do you want a cup of coffee said that didn't he where do you want me to sit

where do you want me to sit in his own house in Les Dennis' house he was asking us Ray Peacock and Ed Gamble who of course are starring in Peacock and Gamble, don't even want to be on telly anyway.

9.40, Pleasant's Dome Dome. You can only go tonight. Tonight, literally tonight, if you're listening to this on Sunday when it comes out. Then that's it. Yeah, and then two. And Les Dennis just went, where do you want me to sit?

This is the Les Dennis. I can't stress this enough. Yeah. So, let's have a... I'm very casual. I don't say much again. You may have a very casual I don't say much again you may have noticed because

like I didn't say much in the Miller and Jimmy Cricket one it's because I'm intimidated by anyone over the age of 40 there's a degree of that and also because I had to explain to Ed who Les Dennis was

yeah but it was him it was definitely him though yes here's our interview with Les Dennis Peacock and Gamble Peacock and Gamble and we're here with our last guest

final guest our very last guest of this run and we've got Les Dennis last but not least eh? not least in any way Les Dennis last and best last and yeah yeah yeah

last and best thank you for that when we came to Edinburgh this year we thought right we only want one guest really so what we need to do is build up a bit of credibility you should have just done the one show then

we should have done what do you do all those other shows for?. You should have just done the one show then. We should have done, exactly. What do you do all those other shows for? And we should have approached you with, we're only doing one podcast. One podcast. One podcast. Right at the end. Yeah, and then what if I'd said no?

Then you'd be like, we didn't do it. We would have done an impression of you. You're not the only one that can do an impression. We could have done them. No, that's a very hard impression to do. I've been to so many voiceovers where it says, Les Dennis sound alike.

Really? And then they've tip-exed it out. That's how long ago it was. And put the real Les Dennis in. Because somebody couldn't do me. It's quite a specific voice, isn't it? It's a bit Cheggers and a bit... Touch Cheggers.

A little bit Cheggers. Hello. That's a bit more Cheggers a bit... A little bit Cheggers. Hello. That's a bit more Cheggers. It's also a bit Chris Evans. Everybody used to think I did the Huggies commercials. And it was Chris, yeah. You're not far away from each other.

Yeah, he's Warrington, I'm Liverpool. Whereabouts in Liverpool are you from? I'm from Garston, so right down on the docks there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, I mean, born there, but then South Liverpool all my life. Went to the same school that Lennon had gone to earlier. So that kind of Liverpool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Of course, that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that sort of Liverpool. Are you back in Liverpool? No, no, I don't live in Liverpool. I live in London, Highgate, North London. Are you drawn to Liverpool at all? All the time.

I always go back so much. I did panto for three years at the Empire, the last three years. And my family, my sister, my two sisters and my brother still live up there. So I go up a lot. And if I got a job that would take me up there, I made an excuse to go and live back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a weird thing, isn't it? I think that's a I think it's a heightened thing in the North West, North West of England. Yeah, I really do. To be drawn back to where, because I get it sometimes. You say drawn back like you don't want to go back. It's like a pull.

It's like a magnetic pull and you go, no, no, okay, here I go. You know, because sometimes you've got to be elsewhere for work or for whatever reasons, for, you know, family or whatever. Absolutely. But there is a steady pull.

Although mine went away a little bit last year. Where are you from? I'm from, I was born in Warrington. Okay, right. I'll always say St Helens. Okay. Because I follow saints.

Yeah. Because, you know, I went to school in St Helens. But saints ground went last year they knocked it down two years ago the ground I'd always gone to

they've got a new ground now and when that went it really felt like well I've nothing to go back there for even though my mum and dad still do that I was looking last night

I knew you'd done Edinburgh before I didn't realise how much you'd done it before. I've only done it twice before. I did it in 2006 and 2007, and only ever with plays. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, I don't do stand-up anymore. In fact, I never used to call it stand-up. I'm pre-stand-up. It was me act. Yeah, okay. I don't do me act anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough, fair enough.

I was a turn, you know, rather than a stand-up. I don't do that stuff anymore, so I think I'd be a bit scared about coming up and doing that I'm always in awe of you guys because you do a different show every year we old school guys used to go around with the same act for years doing the same summer season and then the club circuit

and you could do the same act but I think that's alright if you've not done it yet. That's true, but then... It would be the same as... Except it's, you know, I haven't done it for 20 years. So it might be a bit out of date. Your reference points may be slightly off. Yeah.

You know she's left Coronation Street. They're long, long ago. When I was here last time, I was talking to Kate Copstick. And she said, why don't you come and do something? And I went, I don't know what to call it. And I told her a story about that the year before I'd been at the Pleasance. Yeah. And then the second year

I was in one of the Portaloos, you know, the Portaloos at the Pleasance. Yeah, yeah. And this lad, this Urinal Scottish lad said, Les Dennis, I had a pish with you last year.

So she said, call it a pish with Les Dennis. Nice, nice. Yeah, yeah, it's really nice. Maybe I'll do a retrospective thing. Well, it's a difficult thing, isn't it? Because I went to see Mick and Jimmy the other night and what I was concerned about, genuinely as a fan, I was concerned

about going there and seeing lots of young, maybe comics or lots of young fans of comedy, going there in a sort of an ironic piss take away. Yeah, post-modernist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is, I mean, Frankie Howard, that happened with Frankie Howard. And I remember an interview with Frankie Howard once where he was questioned about it.

He went, oh, don't question it. Don't question it. It's fine. As long as they turn up, it's fine. I don't care why. Yeah, I just think, you know, I mean, Mick and Jimmy got some really nice reviews, but it was kind of like, but it's not cutting edge. It just frustrates me a little bit.

Why does everything have to be cutting edge? Why can't it just be funny? Absolutely. But there are plenty of comics like that now. Yeah, there are. Modern comics who are just bashing out really good one-liners. I'd debate it anyway from the show I saw. I'd debate that point anyway.

If I'd not been there, I'd be like, oh yeah, I bet that's what it was like. But having been there, the bits I saw, that's not what it was like anyway. Jimmy did his act. Jimmy did his act, but he's grown into his act so much more now. He suits being an older man. And there was a lot of

Max Wall physicality. There was kind of Tommy Cooper zaniness about it that didn't used to be there. He used to have that young Irish kind of Tommy Cooper zaniness about it that didn't used to be there he used to have that young Irish kind of whimsy about him and it was all about the wellies and that and that the glove you know on the one hand yeah you know I wore this glove because I was told it might be cold but on the other hand but you, and he started with that, but then he became much more,

I don't know, ironic, you know, really, really interesting. And Mick. Mick's great. Well, Mick didn't do just one line. No.

He didn't do one line. No. He was hit with gags. He was punctuated with gags. But he was telling stories and it was really interesting. I was talking to Jimmy after he said,

do you know what I'm going to do next year, Les? I'm going to do the dumb waiter Pinter he's doing Pinter which is fantastic he's actually doing

the dumb waiter and I can't wait to see it that'll be great yeah hey there's a younger part in that there is a younger part in that

there you go I'm going to do it as well we might both be firing no he's not doing it he's not doing it it's just me

or me or me yeah talk to Jimmy why not I fancy a play I fancy a play not doing it he's not doing it it's just all me all me go and yeah talk to Jimmy why not I fancy a play I fancy doing a play this year it's great

I love it I mean this play that I'm doing here Jigsy one man play yeah about a comic so it's kind of

you need to you know be on top of the the timing of gags because he tells some gags within the routine but it is just a guy sitting in a dressing room

looking back on a career that he never quite had yeah yeah is it is it a guy sitting in a dressing room looking back on a career that he never quite had yeah yeah is it is it a difficult thing as a comedy performer to do that to go to that place no it isn't because over the years i made the decision that um i wanted to learn the craft of acting yeah i went to school with some amazing people i went to school with Clive Barker the horror writer Hellraiser and all those movies and Doug Bradley who played Pinhead in all those films the iconic Pinhead

so were they mates? they're mates, yeah no they were mates no I meant to be Pinhead oh I see Pinhead in my film yeah chemistry and I was part of this drama group

and I remember them thinking I'd gone down the comedy road much to the frustration of Clive because he was like you should be an actor and I was like but I want to be Dave Allen and he was like so I went down the comedy route but I always kind of

had it in my head to get back to the acting and while I was doing Family Fortunes which afforded me the luxury of only doing that for three weeks a year I could then go out to the water mill in Newbury for Equity Minimum and do David Herr's Skylight

which was baptism by fire I really like that. And I think, I feel the same way about Matthew Kelly. Right. Exactly the same way. Yeah, Matthew's.

When you actually look at the career, if you look at your career on paper, so you look at Les' career or Matthew Kelly's career, you're like, you get to a certain point

and you go, that's really a bizarre career of things. Game shows, double acts, all those things in there. Yeah.

And then it goes, right, oh, now I see what you really want to do and I think with Matthew Kelly the same thing where he's just gone I'm an actor and I want to do my acting I've done all that he's committed to that very much absolutely

you mix it up more anyway if I get offered a game show I'd jump at it and I'd love to do it but you, if I get offered a game show, I'd jump at it. And I'd love to do it. But, you know, if I did it, and I got back on telly doing a game show, I would worry, I think, that it would negate what I'm building. Can you straddle that? Is it possible to straddle those two camps? But I think if you're a good enough actor, you can. I would imagine so, anyway.

I think that, well, you can't control the public, can you? No. You can't control that perception. you no you can't control that i think i was over crediting the general public and even with you know like with jigsaw i've had some really um thankfully and i've had some really nice reviews yeah but there's always a kind of caveat of you know it's very close to home so is it kind of semi-autobiographical that kind of stuff i used to say it's like turning the titanic to change perception. But as Claire, my wife, pointed out, the Titanic sank, so maybe I should stop using that as a metaphor. But I think in this business as well, and

certainly from where I've come from, the changing face of comedy and the changing face of our industry means that you do have to keep reinventing to still keep around. I think that's my biggest achievement, to still be around rather than anything else because I've got mates who are struggling and not doing stuff. To be fair, because again, I'm old enough to remember, whereas Ed is only 14. But it's that thing of if back then,

when you all hit, if you'd have gone, right, place your bets on who would be around working as much as everyone, So if back then, when you all hit, if you'd have gone, right, place your bets. Yeah. And it would be around, working as much as ever. Then who would it have been then? Because you did the Madhouse as well. Yeah, I did Russ Abbott's Madhouse. And within that group, there was Dustin and me. That's where we kind of teamed up.

Michael Barrymore was part of that team. Susie Blake, Sherry Hewson and Russ of course and Bella Enberg it was you know Geoffrey Holland I'm just doing a name check of everybody in there so

so probably Barrymore you would have had the money on you would have had Barrymore you know absolutely still being you know

I mean he was major he was a massive massive star yeah he really was wasn't he and very very good yeah yeah

well I suppose that's a whole other thing. Another story. It really is, it's an odd one. But you went through, I often think about this in a really macabre way, about me and you. I genuinely do, about being a double act. About what if something happened to one of us? And where would it lead? Because we both have

individual stand-ups as well. But how would that affect you? Even just going out to do it again, how would that affect you? Even just going out to do it again. How would it affect you? And you went through that. We went through it, absolutely. I came through it, Dustin didn't come through it. And Dustin

and I were the next act on after Tommy Cooper collapsed on stage. We were on live TV straight after him. And we were just pushed TV straight after him and we're just pushed on by the producer and by Jimmy Tarbuck saying, look, go on. He was a bump in the curtain

when you were on. Yeah, he was a bump in the curtain while we were on. Literally, they wouldn't move him. And when we were in the wings David Bell, the producer, had said to Tommy Jr., is that a gag? Because the audience were laughing. We were stood in the wings thinking, what's he doing? And he said,

no, my dad's got a bad back. He wouldn't be able to get up. So, queued the commercial break and then paramedics ran on

and they wouldn't. I mean, the only reason that it could carry on was because Tommy was doing that trick with the curtains. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, with the pulling things through his cloak. Otherwise, they would have had to black the show out and just, you know,

go to something else. I don't know, professionals or something. Yeah, yeahon weekend standby always um so um i mean literally we had to go on and then afterwards dustin said that's the way i'd like to go i'd like to go with my boots on yeah and then two years later he collapsed in a dressing room in the middle of a panto run on the first of of January and then died in hospital on the 3rd. So, you know, it is... I know what you mean.

It's kind of, you know, I think that we always, like you two, we had the idea that we would work separately anyway as well as be part of a double act. But you never know what life's going to throw at you. You were doing... Was it The Laughter Show, was it called? We did The Laughter Show.

At the time, we were kind of catapulted. It was mad looking back on it, and I don't think we realised it at the time. We had a show called Go For It, which was an impressionist show on ITV on a Sunday night. That was with all the other impressionists, Aidan J Harvey and who else was on it Alan Stewart and all the guys um Johnny Moore and then on a Saturday night we had our own show

The Laughter Show so we were literally kind of on both channels yeah on a on the weekend so we were catapulted and we were being called the new Morecambe and Wise and the new Two Ronnies and the new Cannon and Ball and whatever. And that was difficult to because you want to build your own reputation as well maybe seen to do things separately. But I've forgotten the

question. I don't know if there was one. We literally came in sat down and you just started talking. Sorry mate. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. I remember after Dustin was away, I remember, I think,

did you do one more series of the last show? I did about three series of the last show. I was alright. And I think, you know, because people had the idea

that I was part of a double act and that's how they had first got to see me on TV. I think they were a bit scared because thinking, oh, will he be able to cope on his own? And I'd been 16 years as a solo actor before that. Of course, yeah. But, of course, there'd been Eric and Ernie,

and Eric had just died, so Ernie was kind of, you know, entrenched in that double act for so many years. If it'd been the other way around, I'm not sure how much Eric would have been able to cope without. They were so entrenched. Yeah, no, not at all. I mean, that's always one of the great injustices, I think,

of Morgan Wise. Yeah, it is. I, for a long time, judged people on whether they thought Ernie Wise was funny. And if they said, no, it was all Eric, I think that's the only thing you don't know what you're on about. You don't. Ernie, just consummate.

Yeah. And you can't even call him a straight man because he was funny in his own right. Absolutely, yeah. You know, he was absolutely funny. own right absolutely yeah you know he was absolutely funny and and and their comedy was lovely dovetailing of the two characters sometimes a straight man is just the funniest one yeah you're not you're not really you're not the straight straighter man you're the straighter man yeah yeah definitely yeah well i think i was i was more of

the straight man with Dustin because Dustin when we teamed up Dustin G was already a massive name in the cabaret clubs he was one of those names that he didn't need telly he could fill the big cabaret clubs you know the Talk of the North

and the Walkie Hollow in Liverpool he could fill it on reputation alone for a week he could do a week. A bit like Ronnie Dukes and Ricky Lee had been. And Cannon and Ball, they had that before they got their tally break. And so when he said he'd like to team up as a double act, I mean, I was just like,

I was like the rookie comic going, okay, wow. But he was, being on stage with him, he was such a massive force. My impressions were like little jabs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he'd, being on stage with him, he was such a massive force. My impressions were like little jabs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he'd have the big knockout. Oh, he was enormous.

He'd do the big bowie or he'd turn round and look like Larry Grayson by just putting a set of teeth in and a pair of glasses on. And he'd go, ooh, what a gay day. And he was absolutely Larry Grayson

on stage. And he also had the thing, as a comparison with Eric and Ernie, he also had the thing where I think he had the Lutz camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. In the two had the thing, as the comparison with Eric and Ernie, he also had the thing where I think he had the looks camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the two games. Oh, absolutely. He was always looking at the audience. Yeah, he was.

When you were together. Yeah, yeah. Listen to this day, he was a great, great act. Well, I was a little kid and I remember being dreadfully upset about it. And almost not being able to get my head around it as a thing. And then I remember there being a wealth I might have remembered this wrong but I certainly

my memory of it is there was a wealth of support for you and there was a wealth when you did the show yourself rather than people going what is he doing I think people were willing me to do well to go forwards and then Family Fortunes luckily came along the next year

and that was 16 years of that 16 years of Family Fortunes luckily came along the next year. And that was 16 years of that. 16 years of Family Fortunes. Pickle can gamble, pickle can gamble. And if I look back to the first series, you know what, they wouldn't have given, now, they wouldn't have given me a second series. Really, really. Well, the first series, I was stepping in, Max Bygrave

has been the host before, and before that, Bob Monkhouse. So I was looking at those tapes and I was looking at Bob particularly and going, right you got to do a gag for every contestant yeah and you've got you know and and I wasn't a gag man but I had writers writing me gags lovely writers Gary Chambers who used to write for the two Ronnies and you know and it was like I've got to have a gag for everything so it took me a whole series which we did in three weeks, 26 shows to get it right, you know, and literally to go,

hang on a minute, by about show 20, I think maybe the humour can come out of the question, and can come out of the odd look down the camera, you know, and a catchphrase that came by accident, if it's up there, I'll give you the money myself,

and I remember getting a laugh with that, and them saying, are you going to use that again? I went, I can't, I've used it, and they go, it's called a catchphr give you the money myself and I remember getting a laugh with that and them saying are you going to use that again and I went I can't I've used it and they go it's called a catchphrase oh okay

so you know it took a series for me to settle into that within 16 years was there no element of because when Les Dawson did Blankety Blank I've got loads of them

on video and he repeated he probably got me on a couple of them yeah definitely but he repeated Gads regularly because there were no video players in our group.

He was literally out and gone. That was it. In those days, you used to kind of... You know when Sinatra would sing the first line of a song and people would applaud? People used to kind of do that with people like Les's... Oh, Les is telling that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's kind of almost like that. Well, our manager still says one of the funniest things he's ever seen was Les Dawson with the card from Blankety Blank as he used to walk he'd do that he'd just jump on the card

and then it got quicker and quicker every week and the first episode do you remember when the first episode he took over from Terry Wogan and he had that

long microphone and he snapped it in half and he was just like oh great here we go it was an amazing moment I've literally gone

right now I'll show you he was just like, oh great, here we go. It was an amazing moment. Yeah, anarchy. I've literally gone, right, now I'll show you, now I'll show you. He was the loveliest, loveliest man. Yeah, yeah, I never met Les Dixon. I was such a fan of him. Really nice man. Well, I was writing his biography for a while. Right. Well, funnily enough, I was trying to get a play together.

I want Ted Robbins. I don't even know Ted. Yeah, yeah. Ted does the most incredible Les. Yeah. And I was saying, Ted, you've got to come up to Edinburgh and I want to kind of get this play together for you for Les. And he'd already started doing a little bit. He did a play one year.

He did a kind of little thing, but he kind of essayed it. But there's a lot of stuff that, you know, you get embroiled in stuff, don't you, sadly? Yeah, you really did. In fact, do you know what? One of the earliest meetings I had involved you. All right. Because I was at a publishing meeting once, very, very early on.

We were in a meeting one day where the publisher sat down. He went, yeah, I've seen this that you're doing. We're quite interested in it. But other than Family Fortunes, what has he done? Right? And I literally sat there. And then I wasn't even as confrontational as I would be now or as confident

as I would be now but I had a moment of going well two points first first the wrong bloke and second

he's done fucking loads and it was just it just fell out yeah yeah but it was like how could you do that how would you get there how interested could you be

yeah exactly exactly when me and Dustin were at the North Pier one night as we were walking in they just said come here we had this woman come to the being somebody yeah exactly when me and Dustin were at the North Pier one of those we were walking in they just said come here

we had this woman come to the desk this morning asking for tickets for Les Dawson and Dustin Hoffman now that's a double act I'm glad to see it

that would be amazing did you and Dustin do Panto with Les? no we didn't we did it with Russ and that's kind of how we decided that we'd team up because we were ugly sisters Did you and Dustin do Panto with Les? No, we didn't. We did it with Russ. And that's kind of how we decided that we'd team up because we were ugly sisters to Russ's buttons in Bradford. And when we came to go into the ball,

we decided that we'd work out who we were going to go as. And that's the impression spot started. And we went, hang on a minute, this is going so well. And Russ used to stand in the wings and go, I'm going to follow that. But of course he could. So that's where it started. Okay.

Did Dustin make the call for you to be a double act? Well, I'll tell you what was, this is one of the loveliest, most brilliant things about him. When we were doing Panto as Ugly Sisters, when we were built, it was Dustin G in big letters and Les Dennis. Right. And halfway through the run

I went to see my agent we had the same agent, Mike Hughes, and Mike said to me, he said, Dustin's asked me to give you parity of pay. Dustin was on, I think, 800 quid and I was on 400 quid and he went, we're doing the same job

I want to have parity of pay and that's where you know just the generosity of the guy and he also said the name's not right it sounds better

Les Dennis and Dustin G than Dustin G and Les Dennis it just sounds better and you know that was the kind of guy he was

how much older than you was he 10 years he was 43 when he died right yeah that's horrific

isn't it? Yeah, it's crazy. Do you know Dustin G? Have you seen any Dustin G? I've seen some, yeah, clips and stuff. Yeah. I've watched some stuff. Yeah, just like...

There's still some stuff on YouTube. I think there's the Royal Variety that we did. Well, I think the Tommy Cooper night's up now. Oh, gosh. Because they put up... There was a very odd moment, like last year or the year before. Yeah. And there was a bit of press about it as well, where somebody uploaded the video of Tommy collapsing, and YouTube

was saying, by our rules, we can't take it down, unless there's a challenge to it. That's the only time we can do it. But have people challenged? Have a family challenged? I don't know if it's still there or not. I remember watching it when it happened, and it a, your memory of it tricks you, and you were, and I remember that coming on YouTube and just going, don't. No.

I've got so many things going on here. Mm-hmm. Yeah. About whether to watch this or not. Yeah. I've got the memory of it that I want to, I've seen it once. Yeah. And it had a massive impact on me, and I want to see if I remember it, right?

But the other part is, I know I'm about to watch a man die. Yeah. And it, a very odd thing. Well, you know, we had videoed it because we were on telly. Yeah. So we had it and saw it the next day. And that was the only time I saw it on screen. And I just remember thinking, and it is etched so vividly on my memory. You know, he's there in that kind of big gown and

Sandy, one of the dancers, one of the Brian Rogers dancers, comes on, gives him the cloak and as she's walking off, he says, thanks love. And you think that love was the last word he said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's horrible. It's been cheery, hasn't it?

I tell you what, don't work with me. Pick up and gamble, pick up and gamble. I don't think you're a? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I tell you what, don't work with me. Yeah. Pick up and gamble, pick up and gamble. Right, I don't think you're a jinx in this at all, by any stretch of imagination, but I tell you what,

my cough's getting worse. Yeah, it is. Yeah, as we've got here. Yeah. As soon as you walk through the door.

Well, everybody thinks I've got, because as Jigsy, Jigsy has this terrible cough and it coughs all the way through the play, you know, and people are like, afterwards they're like, are you okay? And I'm like,s all the way through the play, you know, and people are like,

afterwards they're like, are you okay? Yeah. And I'm like, it's alright, I just, you know, put it on.

It must be shattering. It is shattering, actually. It's not because he's in it, it's coughing away. To cough in a way like that, and you know, when we were in rehearsals,

you know, I thought, I've got a bad back, and I went to see my osteopath, and he went, have you been coughing a lot? And I went, er,

yeah. And he went, he just gave me a trick of how to lean over and cough, you know, and not affect my back. So I have to think about that as well as act. That's really cool. I like how serious you take that in there. I do like that.

Oh, you know, I am very serious about it and, you know, this part is great for me because it's got everything in. It's got every, you know, the element of stand-up on the act. But it's also got some very pin-quiet moments. The audience, well, you've just got the audience. There's a very tragic story about something that happened in Liverpool

and the audience get so focused in it. But sometimes Hannah Chiswick our director and my business partner we're a company now North and South nice and Hannah sometimes has to say

just tell the story because sometimes I think I'm going to laugh for a while the comic instinct is like there's a gag coming up in a minute they'll be okay in a minute

but you've just got to you know sit there and hold it well that's an odd thing as well. When you're a comic or a comic form of playing the comic. Playing it, but not playing it.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it's really interesting to go to that. Cause I guess you would have all those conflicts. Yeah. I'm just going, yeah,

yeah. They should be laughing. Yeah. Yeah. They should be laughing now. But it's like, no, they shouldn't be laughing.

But yeah. Yeah. It's very odd. Do you have a dream part? Do you have a dream role you'd like to play? I kind of call this guy Willie Showman, because it is like Death of a Salesman for comedians.

Willie Loman, I mean, I don't know whether I'd ever be taken seriously enough to play that role, but I mean, I know that Philip Seymour Hoffman's just done it on the American stage, and brilliantly, but I think that's a great play, Death of a Salesman.

I'd love to do some Shakespeare, or some Chekhov, you know, do some serious stuff. Well, there's quite nice stepping stones in Chekhov as well, I think, where you can step to the more serious, sort of grimy Chekhov.

Through comic roles, yeah. Yeah, but there's the shorts, like The Bear and The Proposal, and things like that. There's some really nice sort of plays that can sort of get you into Chekhov

yeah but I'm not I'm not a massive fan of Chekhov I like the shorts but the long stock just when it's when it's done well

I saw the Cherry Orchard and it was who was that that American actor another senior moment young great actor who was in Alive

and then he was in Alive, and then, he was in that thing, with Denzel Washington, about this, you're far more succinct, than I am, yeah, I'm absolutely,

probably fortune, if you want to say, I know, name an actor, who's that, well, who's that actor, I'll give you a clue,

he's in Alive, anyway, he was very good, in the Cherry Orchard, and then I saw, my niece, my niece Jodie who talks like that but is a serious

serious contender as a classical actress she's just been at the RSC playing Isabella and was in the Seagull at the Arcola recently with Geraldine James and she was in that

that's a great play but it's done well yeah yeah we're going we're going through the death of Tommy Cooper to the you know to deathly Chekhov

I like this thing yeah yeah in our X's this year because people have been a bit surprised yeah this is what we found we thought because when we just

chat amongst ourselves we're idiotic if it's just me and Ed in the pockets on our own yeah West West Germany but then having guests on this year we've found some really

interesting talking points and quite serious talking points but it's also wrong footed some of the guests yeah yeah

because they've been like I thought we'd just be dicking about well no because that's not really interesting is it

and also we are our own club thank you and you're not getting involved in that so yeah it has but I'd rather

have an interview like this I'd rather have an interview like this. I'd rather have something that sort of looks at all the different things. But I'm not a fan of Chekhov. No. I like his short stuff. Right. I was in the bear.

I was in the proposal. Were you? That's how I could just grab those two. Were you in the bear? In the bear, no, I wasn't in the bear. When I did it,

when I left university, when I did it properly, I was the waiter man. He has one big speech at the beginning and then just gets knocked about for an hour. Literally just thrown about the stage for an hour. Brilliant.

A lot of physical... Yeah, yeah. And then I did the proposal and I was the lead in that. Right. Which was quite nice. So do you guys act together as well as doing your...

We made a film together. We did a short film last year which we filmed. I do a lot of TV warm-up. Right. Okay. And we did a film

called Warm-Up. Right. It's on YouTube. It's on BBC Online and stuff. And that was a thing which we filmed I did a lot of TV warm up right and we did a a film called Warm Up right that's on YouTube it's on BBC online and stuff and that was a thing that again

sort of wrong footed people a little bit about us because our double act is a lot is very silly and a lot of messing about and stuff

but I think also very well acted in certain parts there is an element to it but then we did this warm up film which is just a little

grainy black and white film about me being a warm up not but then we did this warm up film which is just a little grainy black and white film about me being a warm up not me but a character at warm up who just didn't want to be a warm up

anymore I think there's a way of doing things like warm up where people are like they want to be famous or they want to be whatever

and mine was like it just doesn't want to do it somehow it's ended up doing it and it was it's pretty autobiographical

really in terms of I was at a stage and I still do it I mean I enjoy it but I do sometimes sit there going I'm a dirty secret

I'm a dirty audience fluffer that no one knows about Ted Robbins was you know very much and then he's broken

through he has but I know that Ted sort of regrets how long he did it for. He did it for a long, long time. Yeah, absolutely. And that is, hang on, I do think that. I remember speaking with Ted about it and being like,

oh, you want to get out of this game as quick as you can. So many people started. Brian Connolly was a warm-up. Loads, yeah, loads. John Bisher. Yeah, Bish was. Peter Kay was. Yeah.

Ross Noble. Alan Carr as well. Alan Carr did well, but not was. Peter Kay was. Yeah. Ross Noble. Alan Carr as well. Alan Carr did well, but not for very long. Yeah, but that's a lot of them sort of got out of it fairly quickly. Alright. I mean, if anything, I'd say you'd missed the boat. Yeah, well, the problem is if you're very good at something, then people are very reluctant

to let you go. It's one of your strings to your bow. It's not. It's my bow. It's your bow. At the the moment and it annoys me and it annoys me when i do sitcoms and stuff i mean you know i do not going out and lee yeah to his credit gave me a little role in not going out in the last series and then and then back to doing the warm-up again oh yeah no no i was never gonna be like a new tim in it

but um let's show that i love that show it's great it's great it's great to be bobby see bobby ball in it doing so brilliantly and that's been that show it's great it's great to see Bobby Ball in it doing so brilliantly and that's been another thing for me yeah it's been just like you know

once a series yeah I get to hang around with Bobby for a day I know fantastic yeah and there's a

lovely picture I'm allowed to a lovely picture of me somebody one of the crew took it yeah

of me chatting with Bobby and Bobby's just holding it's just me and him and he's holding court and I'm just literally like,

leaning on your hands to talk. It's like a 13 year old girl with her thumbs. It's a really nice picture though, it's really nice. I'm going to print some of those pictures out I think and I'm going to put them on my wall.

Come and see the play, you'd like the play because you know, there's a lot of references to Doddy and you know, to Bobby and Cannon and Ball and you know, to Bobby and Cannonball. And, you know, Jigsy is a little bit kind of resentful, but in a mild way. Yeah.

Because he adores them. But he's also, he's got that comic insecurity of like somebody's more successful than me. Yeah. Which is a real truism of comedy. It's a real truism of being a comic. Like the biggest lesson I learned was not to look left and right. Yeah. It's to never look

what other people are doing Jigsaw says there's no love lost between comedians I can tell you that for not and it's like

a fight for survival and if somebody like Doddy is doing the business then there's less room for the rest of you you've got to grab that space

before somebody else gets it wow wow I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't also less time with Doddy as well

certainly less stage time. No point being on a bill with him, because there's a good chance you won't get on. I'll tell you this story that Doddy told me personally. He was ill a couple of years ago, and it was hernia, and everybody was worried. And he went to have the operation, and he tells his jokes.

He said, and I was there, you know, I was out, and the surgeon said to me, an anaesthetist, he said, give him a bit more. I said, what? He said, give him a bit more. I said, and I was there, I was out and the surgeon said to me, anaesthetist, he said, give him a bit more. I said, what? He said,

go on, give him a bit more. I said, go on, give him a bit more. Five hours in the theatre, let's see how he fucking likes it. Donnie told me that

to my face. Oh, lovely. Hello, young juvenile. Is that because of it? Yeah, yeah,

yeah, nice. Are you done with the play after Edinburgh or is it going on of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. Are you done with the play after Edinburgh, or is it going elsewhere? We're going, we started it, we did two nights with it last year at the Bristol Tobacco Factory. Yeah. And, you know, before that had been two weeks of Hannah and I in a rehearsal room putting it together. Tony Stabaker, who wrote it, allowed us to do a word that I'd never heard until Hannah told me, which is dramaturgy.

Very kindly let us craft it and make it into the play that we wanted it to be and so we didn't know what we had until we got to Bristol and on the first night it got massive reaction, great reviews and the next night sold out so we said let's take it to Edinburgh because

that's where the trade show for this play would be and we always said we'd take it back to the tobacco factory, which is what we're doing, next week for 10 days, and then hopefully tour it next year. But I really very much want it to go to Liverpool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's very much a Liverpool story,

and I want to do it there, definitely. Yeah, drawing my mind to Liverpool. Gemma Baudinet from the Playhouse Everyman came up, and she loved it. And, you know, who knows? The Everyman's not open until 2014. That's been restructured. The Royal Court is, which is where I first saw my first theatre, which was Doddy.

Ken Dodd, when I was a kid, I saw it at the Royal Court. And it's just had a refurb. And it's very much kind of theatre club. So people come and sit. But Ricky Tomlinson's got a club there it might sit nicely in a kind of like in a club

in an actual comedy club yeah yeah yeah it might hey yeah so who knows I hope so it does sound great

I will try and come and see it yeah you just gotta catch up I've had a horrible thing this year where I've been I'm now panicking because we're nearly at the end of the fringe and you've not seen

you've not seen anything I'm the same also at the moment I can't laugh. I actually can't laugh. And when I laugh, I start coughing. And I'm really panicking about it. It's alright, you'll be fine watching my show. I can't sing either.

Yeah, but if I cry though, my nose will get all... There used to be a great Liverpool comic called Aldine, bless him, he's not around anymore. He was fantastic, Aldine. He used to... Very physical comic, very thin. He was on New Faces used to very physical comic very thin he was on New Faces and he stormed it he did on the Palladium show when Lenny Henry

was on and Marty Kane won but Al stormed it he used to do impressions of match sticks he'd get stripped down to his two boxer shorts he was so thin he'd put a red balaclava on and go match and then he'd pull it off and there'd be a black one underneath,

dead match. Nice. And, you know, the reason I got to that, it was, it's a bit of a ramble, was you saying about the laughing and the coughing,

you know, this bloke in an audience, you know, it hurts when I laugh, but I'm all right when you're on. That's where the prank came from. So even though he's not around anymore, I wanted to,

because Jigsy talks about pirates. He's a comedian who nicks in the fellas' gags. So I didn't want to be a pirate nicking Aldean's gag. That's really cool. I really want to see it now. I do, though. I want to see it anyway, but now I really want to see it.

Come and see it. I definitely will. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble Peacock and Gamble and I'll just quickly tell you guys something I'm really excited about which you know

we can now talk about is that we myself Keith Chegwin and Sean Williamson will be working for Ricky and Stephen

again next year oh really that's really nice oh nice do you know in what show we're doing there's you know

Life's Too Short the series they're doing a special next year and they have written it for us. Is it done yet? Oh, really? Yeah, we're going to film it next February.

Because you're a nice little cameo. But they've written a hilarious special. That's really cool. So, again, that's another point. So, the thing with extras was an interesting one as well. Because that thing I said about Mick Miller earlier on is it could very easily have been that. It could have been that post-modernist ironic thing. Is this even fair on him?

Yeah. Or is it? There was a lot of debate about that. Yeah. Gerard Kelly, who was in that episode. He's away now as well, isn't he? Yeah, he's gone. See, don't work with me.

No, you're not! Gerard Kelly, yeah. He was Bonnie in that episode you were in. Yeah, and I did panto with him here in Edinburgh, don't work with me and no you're not Gerard Kelly yeah he was bunion that episode you were in yeah and I did panto with him here in

Edinburgh and Glasgow how long were you I mean don't worry it's ok how long have we been here now

is there a costume get out quick Gerard Kelly was very worried and said to Ricky and Stephen

they said look you know we feel that Les was made a bit of a whipping boy with everything that went on in my life and preconceptions. So they said to me right up front, you know, we want you to play a twisted, demented version of yourself. Think Larry Sanders, think Cobra Enthusiasm.

So, you know, that's what I just thought. It's my chance to show that I've got a sense of humour and that I can act. But also, the other element of it is, is if you're playing that part, again, we might be crediting the public too much, but there is that element of going,

well, then he can't be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can't be, so we must have this wrong. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? If he's as aware as that, then he can't be. No one would throw themselves that wholeheartedly.

No, exactly. No, totally. When you go, well, he's a man, he's gone mad, he's not. If he was, he wouldn't know what he was doing. But the funny thing is, you can't play it without knowing Twinkle. Oh, by the way, folks, with that stuff, you've got to play it so

deadly serious. Standing there with him in the theatre wing, saying, when I was on Big Brother one time I thought about suicide but then I saw thingies tits. I've forgotten her name. She's there with

Ethan Hawke. Melinda Messenger. Melinda Messenger's tits. Ethan Haw tits Ethan Hawke Ethan Hawking-Chek I may as well say nothing now because I've just got the best edit point I've ever had in my life

P-Cooking Gamble P-Cooking Gamble Les Dennis you didn't do that did you when I did the interview I thought we were what we've been good at genuinely in these interviews

is restraining ourselves from doing obvious things from doing the obvious yeah and you know what I was slightly hung over in that interview. Yeah. And I had to catch

myself at one point because I had a bit of a sweat on. Yeah. And I was just thinking you know when you're a bit paranoid when you

have a hangover. I was just thinking I am sat in Les Dennis's house. Les Dennis. And I'm watching him have a conversation with my friend Ray

about Chekhov. Yeah. Weird wasn't it? I couldn't believe it. Really weird. Bizarre Chekhov. Yeah. Weird, wasn't it? I couldn't believe it. Really weird. Bizarre. Really weird. Yeah.

But we didn't talk about family fortunes other than when he brought it up. Yeah. We didn't talk about extras other than when he brought it up. Brought it up, yeah. Exclusive at the end, no? Yeah. No mention of his personal life or anything like that. No, just let him talk, really.

Any of the obvious stuff. Yeah. Just had a chat. It's an interesting chat. And that's why if any of the other famous acts on the Edinburgh Fringe want to be interviewed by us on our Fringe podcast, well that's where you should have been.

Yeah, that's where you should have been. You can't now. Too late now. Too late now. And we're literally never doing it again. Can we also address

the, well we've got one more episode yet haven't we? Yeah, no. We're off tomorrow. There's no podcast tomorrow. Yeah.

And then the final one is on Tuesday. Yeah. When our guests are Peacock and Gamble. Peacock and Gamble, yeah. It's just the Peacock

and Gamble podcast but in Edinburgh they've done very very well this year in the fringe they've sold very very well breakthrough act good reviews and that we'll be interviewing them on Tuesday

yeah so that's the last one of our interview interviews yeah that's the last one so end on yeah they've all been fun

we'll chat about them in the next episode we'll be interviewing each other yeah we're off tomorrow but we'll be back on Tuesday for the final one all that remains for us to say is that

our show Peacock and Gumball don't even want to be on telly anyway 9.40 Pleasant Dome Dome last night tonight tonight come along that's Sunday

come along it's the last night who knows what we'll get up to we do obviously because we've been doing it for ages yeah we're going to do the show that we

wrote the same show I'll try and do it with my voice yeah but that's all for today here's Les Dennis

yeah it's Les Dennis. It's Les Dennis. It is the Les Dennis. Right, you know Les Dennis? It's him now. And he's now reading the credits. Of our thing. Les Dennis. Our guests read the credits. Okay, brilliant, absolutely. But you only get one go at it.

You're the last person to do it. No, you don't have glasses. It's in my handwriting as well. Don't grab my glasses. No, you don't have glasses. I'll put them down. They're right here. It's in my handwriting as well. Ready? Yeah, great. Go.

The Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh podcast is a ready production hosted by chortle.co.uk. Okay, today's guest was blank, blank, Les Dennis. And my show is Jigsy, all music by Thomas Fonderay. See you tomorrow. tomorrow no you won't it's the last one