The Peacock and Gamble Podcast - The Peacock and Gamble Podcast: Edinburgh Fringe 2012 Episode 6 (Russell Howard)

Episode Date: October 18, 2020

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Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah Pickle and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. Because it's on air, Peacock and it's not great. Gamble, it is great, Peacock and it is out there. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. Here they are. Oh, come on. What? It's the Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh podcast.

Is that how we're starting them now? Come on, everyone. Oh, come on. Come on now, concentrate on this for a bit. Here we go. Have a break from your day. Now, as you know, we have to have silence before we start, but your tummy gurgled during that one.

It was my throat. Was it? Yeah. I've just had some Metatone tonic. What's that? It's a thing. Oh, lovely. Yeah.

It's supposed to boost your immune system a little bit, apparently. And if you're feeling a bit tired. Yeah. And then you have that. Yeah. I bought it after I was ill. Right. Earlier in the year.

Just to sort of build myself back up again. I'm Ray Peacock, by the way. Oh, hello. I'm Ed Gamble. So I decided to get some more while I was up here. Yeah. Just to have it every day. Do you think it's working?

No. Well, you're not ill, are you? I'm not ill, no. But I'm certainly not helping on an energy level. No, but that's because you're staying until seven to edit. I'm tuckered out. You're a little tuckered out fella, aren't you? Yeah.

Do you know what? I really enjoyed doing the podcast yesterday with Gareth Richards. Yeah. That's one of my favourite ones.

Yeah. I really enjoyed the interview and I enjoyed doing the edit. Yeah. But the edit went on because it was

quite a long one. Yeah. And I'd done our show and then I'd done another gig that I was comparing late into the morning. Yeah.

And then I got home. I could have met you afterwards to take you home. You did didn't you? Although you put off the last act. I did. Because Joe Domet

was on stage headlining it. Well he was wrapping up. Alright wrapping, didn't you? Although you put off the last act. I did. Because Joe Domet was on stage headlining it. Well, he was wrapping up. Oh, right, wrapping up. And you popped your arm around the door with your phone and took a photo.

Yep, I did, just to get a picture of it. But he didn't know that was you. No. And that put him off. Well, he was finished, really, wasn't he?

He was finished, yeah. No, he did a good job but he thought he hadn't but he was fine. Yeah. So I'm a little bit tired. I'm a little bit tuckered out to be honest

because it was editing the podcast there'll never be people who listen to it and they hope you enjoy it I always feel bad when you have to stay up late doing it yeah

because I just go to bed yeah and that feels bad because then you have to stay up doing it good good but I can't

it's weird if I just sat there looking at you editing it yeah exactly yeah so I can't do that yeah so that's strange and our stage manager Sophie you know the big six months girl yeah she came back with The Night I just sat there looking at you editing it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I can't do that. Yeah. So that's strange. Our stage manager, Sophie, you know,

a big Six Miles girl. Yeah. She came back with the night and was like, I want a drink. Yeah. And she just sat opposite me watching me edit. Yeah, well, that's not helpful for you, is it? And I went, this is, I can't. Yeah.

I went, you like Scrabble, don't you, Sophie? You like Scrabble? I've got Scrabble on my iPad. Yeah. And she went to the other room. Yeah. With Scrabble on the iPad. Yeah. I I said, well, I've got a score on my iPad. Yeah. And she went to the other room. Yeah. With Scrabble on the iPad. Yeah.

I finished the edit. Yeah. Went through to say, all done now, a little quick drink and then go home. And then I went through, fast asleep she was. Face on the iPad. Right. Dribbling on the iPad. And I came, I was going to come and wake you up.

Yeah. And I got my phone out ready to take a picture and I must have moved a bit and she heard it and woke up. It was heartbreaking, it really was. That's a shame. But also, my mum's just texted me to say,

just looking where the Pleasance Dome is. Well, I mean, she's put it in wrong. Thank you. She's put Pleasance Dome. Yeah, no, you've said it already.

You've said it already. You've said the correct name. No, I was quoting my mum. No, well, you've said it now. I've got that in my head now. Our show is Peacock and Gamble. Don't even want to be

on telly anyway. 9.40 at the Pleasance Dome Dome, of course. Dome. Actually, I'm just seeing where you're on at. And the picture that came up. I'm sure it's you and Ed on stage. Right. Sure it's you and Ed on stage on that, what, come up on Google?

And I've checked, it's our website. Right. It's just on our website. So she's just Googled Peacock and Gamble and found the website. Well, she's essentially just texted me to say, there's a picture of you and Ed on your website. Well, she's proud. Yeah,acock and Gamble and found the website. Well she's essentially just texted me to say there's a picture of you and Ed on your website.

Well she's proud. Yeah she is proud I suppose. She's proud mate that we've managed to get a photo onto the inter. Yeah exactly.

We've done well getting a photo on the inter haven't we? At the end of it anyway. So show's going well you brought the show

up we're enjoying it very much. Mmm. Mmm yes. Nice food. Good. Mmm. Only 10p.

Yeah. You are tired. I am tired. I'm thinking of choppa chop lo 10p. Yeah. You are tired. I am tired. I'm thinking of chupa-chup lollies. Yeah, last night was particularly fun. There was a gentleman in the front row, and he had a face on him. All the way through?

All the way through. Yeah. Large, sort of imposing gentleman. Portly man. Very Father Christmas-like. Yeah, nice white beard. Yeah. But grumpier than Father Christmas.

Yeah. But there's a very, very strange bit in our show, which you'll have to come and see. It involves us basically playing in quite a silly manner. There's no in for the audience. I was going to say it's a running joke, but it's more of a running thing. Yeah, it's not a joke.

It's deliberately inaccessible to the audience. And stupid. It's just us being stupid. Stupid comedy. But he loved it. That's stupid. It's just us being stupid. Stupid comedy. But he loved it. That's the only bit he loved. Yeah. And he was giggling like a child.

Yeah. And then once you brought everyone's attention to this, every time we came back to it, everyone would look at him. Look at him. And then you'd just see his shoulders go

and he'd start crying with laughter. Yeah. It was absolutely lovely. To be honest with you, even though he didn't appear to enjoy the rest of it, although afterwards he came and found us

and said that he was enjoying it, I've never in my life stood on a stage, and I've done a lot of gigs and we've done a lot of shows together as well, never ever seen an audience member enjoying something I'm doing on stage that much. He was enjoying it so, so much. He went very, very red, shoulders up and down, which must have looked hilarious to the rest of the audience. Yeah, I think it did you couldn't see his face

just the shoulders going it was brilliant and then I gave him the prop yeah the prop we used in that bit I gave it him at the end he put it back on the stage I know he did

but it was a massive cheer when I gave it him now the strange thing was why did he come to our show he came to our show because we were outside afterwards chatting with Tim Vine and he came

and got us afterwards. And he said, the reason I came was I was looking through the Fringe programme and I saw your face to me. Yeah. And I knew you were off Doctor Who. Yeah. You were from the episode Blink. Which is, let me tell you, a brilliant episode. Yeah. And I said, thank you very much. I wrote it.

And he went, and that's why I came. Yeah. And I thought, well, that's nice. It's a weird reason to come and see an hour, to invest in an hour Fringe show. So you were like, oh, that's why I came yeah and I thought well that's nice it's a weird reason to come and see an hour to invest in an hour fringe show so you were like oh that's nice of you

and then he quoted one of your lines exactly yeah so he was a fan oh he was yeah yeah yeah but here's what I thought

when I did the episode of Doctor Who I was credited under my real name which is Ian Bolesworth yeah because Ray Peacock is his stage name

yeah which came about from a character that he used to do which. Because Ray Peacock is his stage name. Yeah. Which came about from a character that he used to do, which is called Ray Peacock. And it's not a joke name. No. And if you say that to me, I'll block you on Twitter. I come very close to telling you

it's just to fuck off when you say that. And I will, you know, it will very much annoy me. If you say it to me in the street, it will very much annoy me. And I will get angry and aggressive. Please don't be fooled by my character I will punch you in the face

that was his old character so I'm credited to something else so he's gone in the fringe programme and gone that's that bloke out of Blink

now if that was me I'd have gone he just looks like that bloke out of Doctor Who he really looks like him doesn't he really I wouldn't have been certain

that it was me well maybe you just did a little bit a tiniest bit of research maybe you did by searching your name look I'm grateful that you came I'll be honest mate I love you and you're a lovely looking lad Well, maybe you just did a little bit, a tiniest bit of research. Maybe you did. By searching your name. Look, I'm grateful that you came.

I mean, I'll be honest, mate. I love you. And you're a lovely looking lad. Not like that. But it's quite a unique look. There's not many people who look... It's not like me. I've got a boring look. Just like normal, sort of, like, shaved short hair.

Yeah, like a little boy. I think you could look at a poster of me and say, Oh, that looks like Ed Gamble if I had a different name. But it might not be him. But I think you very much look like you. You've got your own brand. You've got your own image. Invented this, mate. Yeah. Long hair and a beard. Invented it, mate.

Yeah, exactly. Loads, loads of people have copied it since. Yeah. But I was the first person. Hairy bikers. Yeah, I was the first person to do it. Jesus. Jesus copied it a little bit.

Yeah. I was the first person to do it, so thank you very much indeed for that. Thank you. I'm a man from the magic numbers. Yeah, I had that for a while. And then to the point where I got mistook for the man from the magic numbers so much, it got to a point where I had to go and meet the man and have my photo took with him. To go, look, it is different bloke.

Yeah, we don't look that similar. And we actually don't look anything like him. No, he's much taller, isn't he? No, not really. Yeah, he's nine foot. No, he's not. Who am I thinking of? Is it someone out taller, isn't he? No, not really. Yeah, he's nine foot. No, he's not. Who am I thinking of? Is it someone out of a science fiction film?

No, fairy tale. Sorry, carry on. So, but we appreciate him coming, that bloke. And his wife said to me, because she was laughing all the way through. Yeah. And she went, oh, he is. He's a miserable sod. He's a miserable sod.

But he said he really likes it. So that's coming. So that's, how many people is that now that's in our show? That's five now, isn't it? Well, I think we've just broken double figures. Included them too. Yeah. So that's going all right, isn't it? Yeah, it's going all right, I think. Yeah, it is. Yeah. So look, today we have a special interview because we, I'm very aware I'm slurring my words. I don't know. It's because I'm over tired. Yeah. And all that vodka that you had.

All that vodka I had before I did the programme and I didn't like it. I haven't had a drink for three days. I had my had a drink for three days. I had my first alcoholic drink in about three days last night. Right. Nearly killed me.

Like, I had way less than I would normally have and I had to tot at home and I was feeling a bit woozy. I don't think I'm going to drink for the rest of the fridge.

Oh, shut up, mate. Maybe later on. Bambuca's in a bit. I've been having vodka and cranberry juice up until three days ago. Drives you mental though. It does doesn't it? Yeah. I wonder why? Well because it's alcohol. You don't really drink alcohol. Plus you shouldn't be allowed juice because of

all the E numbers. Right. You're a little mischievous little scamp anyway. I am I'm a lovable scamp. Give you a sip of juice or a jelly baby and you go off the deep end mate. I put vodka in that and then A pressed A and naughty boy all around Edinburgh. Exactly. You have a jelly baby vodka

then you're going to go mad. Oh I'd love that. Which one would you have? I would have the strawberry one I think best. Black one. So yeah it's been fun but today we've got

Russell Howard in an interview that we did before we came to Edinburgh. Yeah we pre-recorded right? Yeah. We thought we'll get that pre-recorded

because obviously Russell doesn't come to the Fringe anymore, right? Have a nice chat with him. I was out having a drink last night. Who did I bump into? Russell Howard. So pointless pre-record. Could have done it here, better sound quality.

Wouldn't it? Because the sound quality is pretty bad on this interview. But try and bear with it. It's not as bad as, not like a herring podcast. Yeah. You know, it's listenable too. Yeah. But yeah, it's pretty bad.

I saw Tim Vine last night. Yes, I know you did. I know Tim Vine. Yeah. I know Tim Vine, because I've worked with. Yeah. But, yeah, it's pretty bad. I saw Tim Vine last night. Yes, I know you did. I know Tim Vine. Yeah. I know Tim Vine because I've worked with him loads. Yeah, I know. I saw him last night. Thrashed him at darts.

That's what we're maintaining. I thrashed him at darts. We'll talk about that at some stage because I'm sure we'll have a chat with Mr Tim Vine at some point. Thrashed him. I think the thing was, I think what put him off was the way I put our names on the dartboard. Yeah.

Like, I sort of put mine in massive on the dartboard. Yeah. And then I put him in really lower place. Tiny, tiny. Really tiny at the top. The thing is you've got a handicap with darts as well because you're throwing up. Throwing upwards, yeah. Yeah, you're throwing upwards, yeah. Tim's really tall. Yeah, Tim is tall. Well, Tim's the right height for that dartboard. Yeah. And you are not. I'll just put it like that. Yeah. You're a little boy. Smaller than him. You're a smaller littleboard. Yeah. And you, you are not. I'll just put it like that. Yeah. You're a little, you're a little boy. Smaller than it.

You're a smaller little boy. Yeah. Basically, you have to throw almost just up in the sky. Yeah. Straight up. I'd be better at darts

underarm. Yeah, you would be. You should do it underarm. Alright, well. And then you'll beat him. I mean,

you did beat him. And then, I mean, you did beat him. And whatever he says, if anyone sees him talking about darts, whatever he says, Ray beat him. I did beat him, so that's fine. Anyway, come on.

Thanks for joining us. We've got a lovely interview with Russell coming up. Don't forget, our show is Peacock and Gamble. Don't you want to be on telly anyway? Peasants Dome Dome 940. Every day of the year, Edinburgh Fringe. Come and see it. We'll sign your flyer after.

Good night, God bless. Here's Russ. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. We're in Russell Howard's office. We're here with you now. Yeah.

Are you going to get in trouble if we're in your office? Not at all, no, I run this shit. And you've got

your office all nice, mate. It's all done up lovely. We've got an arse, a cock. A big arse on the wall, a big

cock just freestanding. You've got yourself some toast with your name on it. Is that something that you insist on?

Is that having a big bit of toast with your name? Is this like, you know when Metallica ask for they ask for Aaron Brown it's just to show

that if they can do that then everything else is going to be fine for the rest of the day I was fucking living because it's white and I need

brown what's annoying as well because someone's been in this office over the summer because you see that whiteboard we've got basically

they're all the clips that we used on last year we haven't used this is under news yeah

and somebody if you look 293 deep bucket fucked until gaping was spun that's a good

one that's good that's very different to the one about well fisting anus

that's not ours yeah that's different to a cat on the sofa yeah but again

Russell if we I mean what you're doing now you're saying oh the out there, you're saying, oh, my show is much

better than that, my show is much cleverer than that. But we'll go look over some of the other notes that are there. If we look maybe at 181,

Guy has big cock. 184, Simon Cowell's penis. 191, Louis Spence stretch. We can get Spence, we tried to get Spence for a sketch.

Yeah, I know, because you also, you or one of your team, asked me to be in that sketch, to play a caveman. Is that right? Yeah. And you didn't fancy it? I would have done that, yeah.

No, what I didn't fancy was the sketch you asked me to do. Well, first off, the one sketch that I have done on Good News. That is a great one. I'm Mr Teflon. Because that didn't come back to haunt me. You tricked me into doing it. I didn't trick you. Yeah, you did, because some of you worked on the production.

Look, I'm assuming that everybody that works on this production, you're a buff. I didn't trick you. Yeah, you did, because some of you worked on the production. Look, I'm assuming that everybody that works on this production, you're above. Right. In some sense. In fact, if we rewind this, you did say you run the show.

Yeah, no, you said you run the show. Yeah. Right, so I get a phone call saying, hey, Ray, who's that? That's Ray's impression

of everyone else apart from me. Yeah. Oh, hey, Ray. I think you're really good. Ray, we're doing're really good. Right, we're doing a sketch and the boys,

is what they said, the boys, I'm sure that means you and your co-hosts who write it. Yeah. The boys, I think you'd be really good in it. Oh, great, yeah.

Would you be interested in doing it? That was it. Yeah, yeah, of course I'll come down and do it. Yeah, yeah. Contract.

That was exactly it. Right, and then I get the script from you. I've said yes at this point. Yeah. Get the script from you the next day so you can be dressed up as a lady, with you as well, so you for you. I've said yes at this point. Yeah. Get the script for the next day. So you'll be dressed up as a lady,

with you as well, so you know, in fairness, you were doing it yourself. Yep. Dressed up as a lady boy. Well, it wasn't a lady boy, it was just a transvestite,

that's important. It was a parody of, but it was, the idea I think was, it was a Thai airline, that the stewards, all the stewards are going to be lady boys. Uh-huh.

And our gag was, let's hope they don't go over here, because, you know, our budget airlines, and there was a joke on that. But it got in our hand. It did get out of hand. So I was like, I spoke to them and said, I don't want to do this.

But I was like, but if I now say no, I'm making a judgment call on their sketch. Yeah. When you said that, when you described the phone call, and you got a phone call from whoever this was going, and the boys think you'd be really good in it. The immediate image I got was of Russ and the boys like standing off to the side during that phone call just trying to control their laughter. Yeah. But you were like, yeah, sure. I'll go and do my acting. I do acting all the time.

Put these balls on. So yeah, and they got all upset, didn't they? All the, um. It was in the newspaper, wasn't it? Was it? With a photo of you. Is that true? Do you know what I'm talking about? I think it was like the Gay Times or something like that. Is that genuinely true? I think so. Do you not know that? You're not in the photo. I wasn't in the photo.

Why were you not in the picture? Mr. Teflon, mate. That's it. But it looked like you'd sort of rolled on and ruined my telly show. It's really funny. It's Prince's episode. When he edited the stand-up. Pea-cooking gamble, pea-cooking gamble. Well, come on. Let he edited the stand-up. Peacock and Gamble,

Peacock and Gamble. Well, come on, let's do a proper interview now. Okay. Because this is our Edinburgh podcast, which is in the

Edinburgh Fringe. So we're there now. Yeah, we're there now. Lovely. Play along with that. I am here. Isn't it a nice Edinburgh? Yeah.

Oh, Russell, what's that over there? That is a Cambridge student trying to entice me to their play. There it goes. It's lovely. And with a castle. I to entice me to their place. That's lovely and with a

castle. I also want to say before we even start as far as the interview is concerned, of all your achievements,

of which there have been many, this is kind of like certain members of your family or one certain member of your family.

This is the pinnacle. My brother will be absolutely delighted. In fact, I haven't told him about this.

Have you not really? No, it's going to be a real treat. But what's weird is I regularly hear your

voices coming from his room which is fucking odd in itself. And you'll listen to your podcast and you can tell when he finds it funny because his laugh does tend to

carry. Yeah that's a ridiculous laugh. So you'll hear that a lot and I've always listened to it. You and Frank's going to know it's

his podcast of choice. Yeah but which one does he listen to most? Which one's his best one do you think listen to most? I'm not sure. Which one's his best one, do you think? Which one? I think he really likes Frank.

Really? I don't know. Right, he's a wizard, right? A wizard that's captured me and Frank Skinner, right? He unlocks us in a cage of light. Yeah. In a cage of light.

A weird cage of light. Okay. Right? Right? And all you need is shapes. Yeah. No, it's bad light. He has got one wand

because he's going to kill just one person right now me and Ed are considered to be one person

because we're a team so we can't so Daniel can't just go oh I'll just kill red or red because then

they can both still act right so we're a team and we're all trying to get on and have a good laugh and a swear and he's not

having any of it if anything we're trying to be friends but he's having none of it why has the wizard captured you having any of it. Yeah, we're trying, if anything, we're trying to be friends with Franz Gehrig. Right. Right, but he's having none of it. Once the wizard captured you... I'm getting to that now.

And we're trying to make the best of it and have a bit of chill out and having none of it. But then the wizard, right, goes a bit mental. Daniel arrives. Surely he's already gone a bit mental. Yeah, he has a bit, but he goes more mental, right? And then Daniel arrives. Because you've nicked his grosh.

Yeah, we have nicked his grosh. He's come back. He's had a hard day's sorcery. Yeah. All he wants is a couple of fucking groche. Yeah, we have nicked his groche. He's come back. He's had a hard day's sorcery. All he wants is a couple of fucking cold ones. Yeah, yeah. And you've nicked his suds. We've not nicked them. We thought they were for everyone.

Right. So the wizards. It's not looking good. Anyway, Daniel gets it. Ooh, I'm sure of my sweet beers. Daniel arrives. He's there now, your brother. Yeah.

And the wizards... No, he's just come home. Has he? I think he brother yeah no he's just come on has he yeah because he's like he'll often say that to me right where you going to now I'm going to hang out with that necromancer

down the road because I've heard that Peacock and Gamble and Frank Skinner are there yeah so he comes over I can smell peril and the wizard

right goes like proper insane and goes right right Daniel I'm glad you're here because I'm going to kill one of these.

In France, you can get a lot of people to come with me, won't you? And in a bad way, and they can't come back to life. They're normally that colloquial, aren't they, wizards? It's not his first language. So he's actually translating for your brother. So this is for your family. Yeah. Right. So he's saying to Daniel, all right, I'm going to kill one of them now in a minute. Because you have an accent, if it's not his first language. No, this is just a dick. Look, this isn't... You've got a dick accent, haven't you? Which one would Daniel say kill?

Dan. He would... Dan. Dan, if you want. His name's Daniel. Daniel would... He would kill Frank Skinner. There you go. Is that categorically true? I don't know, because it's a very hypothetical scenario. But you're twins. We're not twins. He's twins with my sister Kerry. Yeah, I know, but surely you're his brother.

I'm his brother. You're not a twin as well. You're asking what I would do. What I would do, I'd pull off my mask, it was me all along. Yeah, I have the wisdom. All joking aside,

those were expensive beers. Yeah. Yeah, all right then, well, fine. At least we can't go up in there now. He loves you. And by association, Russell Howard as well, would rather kill Frank Skinner. Yeah, would kill, well fine. At least we can categorically know now that Dan Howard, and by association Russell Howard as well,

would rather kill Frank Skinner. Would kill Frank Skinner. We're saying that essentially Russell Howard would kill Frank Skinner if he'd given half a chance. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. So, we're in Edinburgh. Lovely. Edinburgh shows, how many did you do?

I did, well, I did a bit of a sneak, you know when Quentin Tarantino kind of dismissed his earlier work. Right, okay. So, I always said I did well I did a bit of a sneak you know when Quentin Tarantino kind of dismissed his earlier work so I always said I did five but I did The Comedy Zone and a show

before that called Ebony and Irony that was my first I'd only just learned about this oh you yeah I knew about that

we asked Steve Bennett about that one because we we were asking him about old reviews oh yeah we never the podcast didn't go out

in a live podcast last year we interviewed Bennett live and we were asking him about old reviews. Oh yeah, we never, the podcast didn't go out. In a live podcast last year, we interviewed Bennett live. Yeah. And we were reading, Ed found loads of old reviews that he read out and said, who was that about? Oh right, I see. But it was loads of scathing reviews from people that have got them to do really, really well. Yeah, we got an absolute fucking, when me and Matt did the show, me and Matt Blades did Ebony and I really.

Which, weirdly, was fucking brilliant. Yeah. Because I wasn't doing Edinburgh. Matt Blates did Ebony and Ivory, which weirdly was fucking brilliant. Yeah, yeah. Because I wasn't doing Edinburgh. I was 21 at the time. Was that you remembering the lie of your age? No, I don't. I was like Russell King. I was, oh God, what was I?

What was I? I was three. I was three at the time. It's just one of the bonuses of being a wizard. But how old is he? That is the major talking point on the circuit. Russell King, how old is he? I had to think the major talking point on the circuit. How old is he? Anyways.

I had a big deal with Ross Kane the other night where after he went off at the end, I went, what's the claim age of him? 40 years old. I did that for ages. I was quite weird. When I was 19,

and then when I turned 20, I was doing comedy. I didn't like that. I wanted to be like 19 forever. But why? Like, I got a review in the Bristol Evening Post that called me a comedy wunderkind

and I love the idea of being this kind of young sort of buck. It's really sad but I was only a kid and it kind of, there's something odd about being 20

wasn't as exciting as I'm 19. Wow. But now we're 25 years later and you still look it. It's not, it's true, it's all about,

you know. I'm 32 now yeah actually you're 32 how old are you 39 just 39 26 that's a good age

22 you're one let's get this on record I am one I am one but yeah so I did the first show

was Ebony and I with Matt which was brilliant because from that I got signed and then started doing gigs yeah after that I did the comedy Matt which was brilliant because from that I got signed and then started doing gigs yeah the year after that

I did the Comedy Zone which was really good and then we got another kicking review in the zone? yeah from the same lady the year before a lady called Margaret Schoeler

just twice gave me an absolute maul so she was going after you yeah it was really weird to the point where I haven't been with many women but I thought

is there someone that she knows have I done something to her? You know what I'm saying? It was so brutal. And then from then on, it's alright, really. I thought,

see, I thought what you were going to say then, when you said, I've not been with many women, I, because my immediate thought was, and he tells me off for this loads, was I was thinking,

right, excuse me, it's too bad reviews, but I would charm her one night in a pub, and then I would fuck her as a punishment. But he keeps saying that, I can't have sex with women as a punishment. Yeah, well, I just don't like you even saying, I would fuck her as a punishment but he keeps saying that I can't have sex with women as a punishment

yeah well you can't I just don't like you even saying I would fuck someone as a punishment you certainly can't threaten that no I mean

consensually it's the only way you could make rape more despicable no no it's just to say I am going to fuck it's like if you've

got very low self esteem that you consider the fucking that you give out to be punishment I would charm her first I did say that and then that you consider the fucking that you give out to be punishment. No, I tell you what, I would charm her first. So, I did say that. Yeah, and then when you get a bat then you'd switch. Yeah, alright.

So, we've got Ebony and Irony so far. Yes, that's it. And Black King and Matt Blais, that's important. Ebony and Irony. Absolutely. Yeah. Who came up with the title and how long did you spend deciding? Well, I was on my own. All I had was Ebony.

I was so good at work. And luckily, he pointed out the fact that I wasn't black. Candidate Black was slightly ironic and I went, hang on a minute.

This could sell. And he did it. No, basically, he was doing a show through the Amuse Moose and he was going to do it with a comedian called Javanka Steele

and she pulled out. It was like with a month to go and he was, Jago said, oh, do you want to do it? It comedian called Javanka Steele, and she pulled out. It was like with a month to go. And Hills, Jago said, oh, do you want to do it? And it cost me like 500 quid. Right. To do the whole, like for everything. Cool.

And it was amazing. And I got to do, you know, 20 minutes every night for, you know, 25 nights. Yeah. And by the end of it, could sort of do a 20. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Whereas before, I kind of, sometimes I could be decent, sometimes not. There's something about doing gigs that are that difficult.'s like the zone yeah when you do them and they're

that hard night after night you kind of learn how to play play any rhythm yeah so you took so you probably took baby steps then I mean it's because of Bristol I think me basically me and Mark Holber right Mark was amazing for me because he basically put on gigs and was a real just organised the whole he created a scene out of which came me, Will Hodgson and John Richardson and now John Robbins and we basically he would put a gig on for us every week

where he would compare and then one of us would close and we'd all have, we'd have to have new stuff every week because it was only about 30 people that came but looking back on it it was brilliant because we weren't really none of us had a tight five or anything like that but we were always kind of challenging each other

and then you know it's like you sort of come to London thinking oh this is my, I better do well here and you don't so it takes you about four years to do well at doing just five minutes and then I signed with Avalon and then started doing the comedy network and I've supported like John Oliver and Zaltzman

and Craig Campbell and Kitson and people like that, it's just brilliant I do 20 minutes on with properly brilliant comics and learning loads I remember doing loads of gigs with John Oliver where I'd spank him and he'd be at the back of the room because I'd be doing something that was a bit cheap or a bit sheer

and it kind of like made you get rid of like crap habits. But it was also awful to the point where I still can't gig in front of John because I get so paranoid like that he's going to be at the back of the room literally wagging his finger. Halfway you can't gig in front of him because he's gone American and won't talk to you now. There is that zone though. Yeah. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. So how many solo shows?

I did five. Five? So you've got five there. Not to say that we're on seven now, but you don't need to wait the first two weeks, which is fine. I'll allow that. Are you counting in that Edinburgh and Beyond? No. Right, we'll put that one in.

Okay, yeah, let's put that in. That was good fun. So there was, see, did Edinburgh and Beyond, see, did Edinburgh and Beyond with me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Russell Kane. Wee! Reg D Hunter. Brilliant. So you had Reg D Hunter, Russell Kane did Edinburgh be on with me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Russell Cain. Wee! Reg D Hunter. Brilliant.

Yeah, Reg D Hunter, Russell Cain, Russell Howard and me. Yeah. Like, quite sincerely, how do you think I feel? I don't know. You spent the whole... You spent the whole... You were reading that book about Jack the Ripper. That's all he did on that tour.

That's all. That's lovely, isn't it? It was the Ripper. I saw what he did on that tour. He was in the front. That's lovely, isn't it? It was the ultra. He would sit in the front reading his book about death. And so I understand that we...

So you were all thinking about planning superstardom. What was fucking going on? I was just thinking about... All together on the

top. Where's Ray? Oh, he's reading the Yorkshire Rebel. What's he doing? How's your day been? And you come in

all like, sort of ashen face. Oh, fucking hell. Touring's hard at the best of times. It's like reading about murder. Yeah.

But I don't do just that. Sometimes I would play with Lorraine, yeah? Because me and Russell Kane were, you know, quite young.

I think Russell even younger than me. Yeah. Russell was like 11. Russell was like 11. He was like 11. Yeah, yeah. He'd never even seen any Rubik's Cube. He was a child of the noughties.

Yeah. But yeah, and Reg would sort of school us in the way of life. And it was so, so funny. Just like some of the, we probably can't mention, but some of the escapades. Why can we not mention them though? Because I'll then see Reg. Oh, so I don't see him anymore. I will see him as well. You'll see him on telly. It's different. Yeah, if he's going at the telly. So all this is going on, you're being schooled in life by Reg D. And every so often from the front, you just say, cut their throats. Yeah, exactly.. I can't help but feel, we passed a good time, that I probably did that tall or wrong.

And we had Simon Street in there and he was a bit of fun, wasn't he? His stage manager's Sarah Millican there. Did he really? I mean, he's done better than me. Out of that truck. Right? I mean, the actual van was in Transformers. Yeah.

Right, ask me any question about Peter Sutcliffe. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. Right, so we're in Edinburgh now. What's your top tip for cheering us up slash surviving this miserable time that we're in at the moment? We're essentially, we've started our run at Edinburgh, so we need cheering up. Computer football?

Do you play computer football? Well, do you know what? I'm all for that. But we did it for two days last year, and then I just started refusing to play. Yeah, why? It's not going to put me in the mood. Oh, really? Yeah. I just wouldn't play.

Play together. Then you can do it all together. No, that was together. Oh, you mean I'm the same team? We should play on the same team. Wouldn't pass it. Well, playing the same team, you wouldn't pass. I do lots of long runs.

Yeah, I think that says everything you need to know about us as a double act refuses to pass likes to run to the goal himself absolutely go to what did I used to do, go to Fabric it was always a nice thing, I'd just hang out with your

I used to hang out with my mates, I'd hang out with Pitcher and Oliver and John Richardson, Kitson John Oliver, those kind of cats. Hodgson, me and Hodgson had some, in the early days, me and Will Hodgson had some properly brilliant kind of Edinburgh moments. When we were kind of on the periphery, we were hanging out with the bigger boys, you know, and he was getting up to various escapades and just great, man. We all, me and Will, bizarrely, had a part in John Oliver's show, and we could not treat that with less respect. Really?

So all we had to do, I had to play the role of a... John did this bit about a Russian guy who got his penis stuck to a bus stop in the snow. Right, OK. And then he wrote a letter to his wife. And then I played the role of his wife offstage, writing him a letter back. And I was meant to learn a female Russian accent, didn't bother.

Yeah. Just a bit, just a bit in my voice. And Hodgson had to come on and play the role of a kid from John's school, I think. The thing about, remember that game, Stuck in the Mud? Yeah. And Will was, had to stand up

and kind of play the role of this kid, and everyone went underneath Will's legs, and that was like the end euphoric moment. And we just sort of, John was inside in this hut doing his show and me and Hodgson

were outside fucking arguing and giving each other wedgies and stuff at one point John literally had to come up and go do you want to shut the fuck up

do you think about how important it is how important your Edinburgh show is and for some reason you get two fucking idiots outside who argue and bicker a lot and then you get

them in your show I think that's the way people feel about trying to have a drink outside our show they want to come in and just go

will you two shut the fuck up we're trying to have an Edinburgh drink we do wear people down quite dramatically

proper wear people down what do you do because I can wear people down I broke a picture you wouldn't break us

I broke Zaltzman every't break us. Which case? I broke Zaltzman every time, every single time Andy Zaltzman for a shit in 2005. I banged on the toilet. I went, what the fuck is wrong with you? And you just hear him

for the half a fuck's sake. You know, 25 days. Fucking hell, Andy. The fuck did you eat, you grisly cunt? Give it a rest, mate. We should get out of here.

How many rooms have you got in your house? In my house? Yeah. I don't mean it in a shown-off way. Are there enough rooms? I've never fucking counted

getting enough rooms. What sort of fucking person buys an house and doesn't count the rooms? What's happened to you? I've not had time to count all the rooms. You're all too busy

beating around the tummy all the time. I don't have a spare room've not had time to count all the rooms. You're all too busy beating on the telly all the time. I don't have a spare foot. Look at this. Which house? Which house? Which house is going down? That's the question.

Which one else? The main one. The main one. Give me my country pad on a seat. No, no. Not the north one. The one down in London.

The one in London. I've got a flat with Danny and there's three of us. Three rooms. Right. So, Dan can go and Oliver can also go. Yeah, Danny in it. There's three of us. Three rooms. Right, so Dan can go on holiday elsewhere. Yeah, yeah. Me and Ed will be happy in the same room.

Yeah, that's fine. And we should just say it. Who breaks first? And whoever leaves first, the other person gets the house. And that is the game. That is now up. That'd be a good... It sounds like an A4 show, doesn't it? Oh, I've that idea. If you stop short of saying it, it'd be good. Now, this brings me an E4 show, doesn't it? Oh, I've got ideas. You stopped short of saying it would be good.

Now, this brings me on to my next question, actually. Um, come on. It's time for us to go on the telly now. Have you got any ideas? Yeah. Okay. This is what I did for a TV show, right? Is this specifically for us? It's not, you can be in it if you want. Somebody should do a, and I know, because I know you like Les Dawson.

Yeah. No one has done a, like a big a big warm interesting biopic about Spider-Man again. Have they not? I haven't seen it. I thought there was one. Zav was going to do a biopic about Les Dawson and then it just got so messy and tangly. You sort of think back to that's the way I'm trying to look at it. If there was a TV show that I would watch that at Christmas. I would really, because I know a huge amount but what I know about him I like and I find it very interesting I read

Hitler My Partner's Downfall yeah fucking great it's kind of his master way yeah that's one idea the other idea is

sort of like a show set in the 70s you know in a similar way that Mad Men kind of is sort of about advertising but it's also another 60s but he Men kind of is sort of about advertising

but it's also another 60s but you set it in the sort of world of TV you know when there's kind of drinking going on

I'm having that both of those I'm not bothered about Spike Milligan I like Spike Milligan but I think it's a difficult project do you really?

yeah but surely if somebody knew a lot about him it'd have to be a specific thing about a specific part you'd have to get the right guy to play him yeah yeah a lot about him... It'd have to be a specific thing about a specific You'd have to get

the right guy to play him. Yeah, yeah, that all comes later, but it'd have to be a specific thing. Remember when the Stepton and

Sun won, or the Frankie Howard won, it was about a specific... So the Frankie Howard was specifically about

his relationship, and the Stepton and Sun won was specifically about this supposedly perceived argument that they had on

going between them, which wasn't nearly as vicious as they made it out to be. And it's since been withdrawn. It's really interesting, isn't it? All the old guys. Like Frankie Howard's fascinating.

The story that his sister, I think, used to go and watch it. She would walk and she would sit in different areas of the theatre to make sure he was kind of making every area look amazing. But there was a lot of that, though. With the old comics, there was a lot of that. Yeah, it doesn't exist in our era. But what do you think though, Russ, that it'd be the other way around?

Do you think that that'd be something that would start happening now? That'd be something that, as people got more analytical about it, do you think that'd be something that Jimmy Carver did? You know, it'd be like, I want to see in certain... Like Ken Dodd has his giggle map, he calls it, where he'll say in different parts of the country, where you just have someone with a pen just say what they laughed at and

where, and actually analyse it as a thing you know, and how you then tailor your act to different areas, but that's been going on for years But that's when getting the last is an end in itself, like when you've achieved that and you know where it was, then that's where you stop rather than thinking, get the gig out of the way and just do fine on that and then try and but it is

interesting it is interesting when you're starting out where you have decent gigs yeah like i used to have loads of really great gigs in lincoln lincoln uni yeah why is that it just happened to be a nice route and they talk to you though as well because you're still you're still revered in lincoln uni it was bad yeah it was really like that was the first place that, because I did it once a month for ages. And there's a promoter called Sean Alvey, he's amazing. He used to get me up there. And I travelled from Bristol to do it. And I always try and do new stuff.

But that was the first time that I kind of went, God, I'm sort of getting all right. Why is it? Why in Lincoln? Just because the room was perfect? I've always done well in Lincoln. I've always done well in Lincoln. I did pretty well in Lincoln. It've always done well in Lincoln. They're pretty good. They're all in there. It's odd that certain gigs like this,

the Worcester Mars part, it's one of the best gigs on the set. Bristol Comedy Box is a really nice gig. These are really weird little rooms for no rival reason. People say, do you need Wendon? No, I just every so often get burpy.

I drink a lot of Diet Coke. I'm trying to stop. Is that an advert? Is that an advert? Yeah. Do you know what they are? No, that's your name. No, no. I drink a lot of Diet Coke I'm trying to stop Is that an advert? Is that an advert? Yeah Do you know what they I am No that's your name

No no no What? I got offered I get offered You've not done adverts have you? No I get offered stuff but

I got offered a Nando's blank card the other day which means you get free chicken and I said I'm alright

so I sort of found that whole idea morally reprehensible you know I can afford chicken give it outside well that was it it was really weird

and I was sort of telling the guys in there because they were like why do you refuse that and I said because you've got to have your photo

and you can't give it to your friends only you get the free chicken no you get to take four friends as well whenever you want I haven't got how many mates three three three you haven't give it to your friends, only you get the free chicken. No, you get to take four friends as well. Oh really? Whenever you want. I haven't got that many mates.

You haven't got any new flatmates? Me and my other new flatmates and then whoever's left. But the point is, it felt wrong. It felt wrong to kind of, you know, I can afford chicken. And then a, who shall remain nameless, came in the next day and went, hey guys, look what I've got, I've got a Nambus black colour. But do you know what, it's a weird thing though as well. I mean, I've never been, I mean when I turn my one down as well. You refuse to go to Nando's.

I've never been to Nando's. I remember one of them kids at school. I've never been to Nando's. Fucking made his own card. You know when you sort of, did you ever do that? I wrote Nike on a pair of trainers. You did that, you drew your own face and put Nando's on it. Nando's black colour. So that, I'm going put Nando's on it. Nando's black. So that, I'm going out

and it's like, oh, I've got a bully. You only had a dark blue felt tip. Do you ever do that? Fuck, I thought it was a really good idea. You got bullied there.

Of course, I drew a fucking knight. Yeah, you're right. You're right. A pair of daps, like proper. It's a difficult thing, isn't it,

to not side with the bullies on this one. Yeah. Fucking error. Error. But did you do that thinking in your head that that would fill people?

I just thought... I was ten, so I was bullied. I just thought it was a good idea. And my mum agreed with me. She said, yeah, that way I'd spend all the money on it. See? I was expecting some better ideas for us

than a biopic. What do you want to do? What do you want to... Just something... Right. Do you want to be on tell. What do you want to do? What do you want to achieve? Just something... Right. Do you want to be on telly? Do you want to be on telly? No.

No, we don't. It's completely our choice. But if you... You want us to be, probably. So you must have some ideas specifically for us. Like a quiz show format or something like that. Why don't you do something based on this wizard idea? Like with What's Up the wizard's sleeve?

Yeah, we could say, what's up the wizard's sleeve? Couldn't we? Escape from the wizard's lair. You have to answer questions to get out of the light cage. Yeah, exactly. And we do kill someone who doesn't.

Yeah. Or maim them, at least. I think that's the way quiz shows are going, isn't it? Got to hurt them. Yeah. Give them a little maimment. The wizard, yeah.

Maim or feign. I'm not like that, bro. Maim maim or fame I don't want writing things down when I'm recording so you become famous or you know you hobble out but if you get

maimed you probably become more famous than if you left without a maimment so that's the trade off isn't it yeah

maim and fame that's good so how about we do this right so that's good so we're humiliating people chop off locks

how about we make it like celebrities yeah we'll make it like celebrities? Yeah. We'll do it in the jungle or something. And then, Russell, on our little ITV2 show, will you come on and do like 10 minutes of stand-up every day? Just press the red button and I'll be conversating on you. Oh, oh.

Poor Dean Gaffney. I thought he was fucking offended. Isn't it terrible that your first thought with a desperate celebrity is always Gaffney but he probably doesn't mind that I quite like him I met him

I say I met him I shouted at him across the problem my mate my mate Sam has got a he's a lovely bloke

you know you're one of his friends you never believe a word he fucking says but he reckons that Gaffney owns a nightclub in Stevenage

called Gaffney's and it's got mirrors on the floor so he can see up ladies' vaginas. Up their vaginas? So it's not even just up their skin. It's an amazing mirror. Right up their vaginas. And you can literally see their fucking kidneys, mate. Apparently Terry Notkins used to own a Dolphinarium,

like a bar where you'd go for a drink and there'd be like behind the bar was big tanks with sexy ladies swimming around with dolphins. Really? Yeah. Well, my mate Carl told me, Carl Mintz told me another bit, but he's adamant this is true, that apparently Nutkins was driving home from London to fucking Norwich, where we lived, and somebody drove past and he had a sea lion in the front seat. With his fucking head out the window. I like that. And kind of like

Carl's blue in the face. You go, no, definitely true. Pickle can gamble, pickle can gamble. Can you see a scenario where you go back to Edinburgh? I like,

my friend Charlie described it beautifully that going to Edinburgh now feels a bit like going to a wedding with someone you used to be in love with. Right, okay, yeah.

And it's everything that once was beautiful is now ugly. Yeah. And I don't know, it just feels, I would never want to be those, I did an interview with a guy about this where he sort of said, oh, you're going to do Edinburgh again. And the last time I did it, I did the musical, which is like a 600 seat, and I did it for five nights. Yeah. And they sold out.

This is in 2007, I think. And I felt terrible because I went to see a few of my friends and they had eight people, ten people in. I just felt like, fuck, I don't need to be here. Yeah. And I'm actually stealing an audience from people. That's it. And that was a comparatively small room.

So it was just the idea of going there. If I was going to do it, I sort of had a bit of a fantasy about doing a show called Bringing It All Back Home and then doing The fantasy about doing a show called bringing it all back home and then doing the hut

doing a 50 second then what's the point because it's a shit gig so it's

that I'd rather just do 3D gigs oh stealing an audience 6-5 people who come and

see you because they've seen you on the telly they're not the sort of people who would go

I'm going to go and see someone it just feels like dick swinging it just feels like you don it just feels like

you don't need to do that yeah that makes more sense you just feel awkward because you're kind of hey how you doing you go I'm fine

you know like Edinburgh should be about kind of young and up and coming acts and like things in their infancy you know

it shouldn't be anything bigger than that it just feels weird whenever anyone does that I kind of don't get it and fanny as well it's about and fanny

you're going to get all the fanny you've got the fanny you've got to get to have the fanny at the end of the run oh what a lovely chat with Russell Howard there

hey and you couldn't see this for a lot of it but he's got a very slight turn in his eye yeah he does yeah I think we have never mentioned

Russell Howard on this podcast without referencing his birth defect alright let's do it today then alright let's not mention it

today okay deal yep yep it's done so our show is Peacock and Gamble don't even want to

be on telly anyway 9.40 at the Pleasant's Dome Dome Dome Dome Dome

Dome Dome right our show is Peacock and Gamble don't even want to be on telly anyway. 9.40, blessings.

Dumb, da-dumb-dumb. And we will see you at that. Thank you very much for joining us today. Russell Howard's not got a show, so if you've enjoyed this podcast, then just come to our show. Come to our show and that's it. Yeah.

And you don't even have to buy his DVDs. Most of them are on YouTube. Just go watch them. Go watch them for free, no? Thank you very much. We'll see you again tomorrow with another brilliant guest and more fun chat and updates. Love you very much. We'll see you again tomorrow with another brilliant guest and more fun chat and updates.

Love you very much. Here's Russell with the credits. The Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh Podcast is a ready production hosted by Chor.co.uk. The guest was me, Russell Howard. All music is by Thomas Thunderay. Is that right? See you tomorrow.