The Peacock and Gamble Podcast - The Peacock and Gamble Podcast: Edinburgh Fringe 2013 Episode 5 (Romesh Ranganathan)

Episode Date: April 18, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pico and Gamble talking right now. He sounds a little bit different, but still just as nice. Sounded like they were in the toilet. Yeah. We're in an office because we've got a busy day today, so we're not allowed in our house.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yeah. So we're having to do podcasts on the hoof. And today we're in the office of our... We're in the hoof-us. Yeah, the hoof-us of our production company. Yes. We're in the next door to them. So, brilliant podcast today, because what they've not factored in is they've left all
Starting point is 00:01:10 the sales figures and money of all the other acts. So what we're going to do, just as a little special today, we're going to just go through how all the, we've got David Baddiel there, the horn section, Gwony McGuire, Jenny O'Clarock's horn, it goes on. Yeah, we'll see how they all did. Peacock and Gamble there, with Heartthrobs, with a T, still not uppercase, which is my little bug bear. Yeah, but they're probably just going off the fringe guide, mate,
Starting point is 00:01:35 which is little T. Yeah, I've also just realised... Which is also my rap name. I've also just realised what I'm looking at here. What? Which is when journalists are coming to review our show. Did you see any? Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Right. So that's that been ruined. So today we have got, coming up on the show, Ramesh Ranganathan. Yes. Ramesh Ranganathan. Good comic. It's a fantastic comic. Let's get this all straight before this interview starts, because we know what happens in it.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah. We are friends with him. We both think he's a brilliant comic. Yeah. We are friends with him. We both think he's a brilliant comic. Yeah. I mean, he actually is. I mean, you might even know Romesh. He was on Russell's Good News.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah. He's fantastic on that. If you go on YouTube and stuff to find Romesh, you'll see. He's really good. He's fantastic. He's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And we've known him for a couple of years now. So, you know, a bit of banter going on. A bit of a laugh together. And just having a laugh. And, you know, as you know with all your friends,
Starting point is 00:02:24 sometimes you will upset your friends. Sometimes like me and Ed, we'll upset each other. Yeah, sometimes we'll push it so far that we'll tip one of us over the edge. Yeah, sometimes... Mainly me. Yeah, Ed'll get so angry because I'm not being a nice boy and vice versa.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I'll not be a nice boy, I'll get so angry. So that can happen in a friendship. And what I'll say to you is we can't record everything so we can't record meeting later that night and saying are we all cool the next day swapping we can't put the text on the podcast saying
Starting point is 00:02:55 alright it's fine we are friends again now or the bit afterwards where we're like we're all great friends definitely so basically what you've got you've got on here is the flash moment Or the bit afterwards where we're like, oh, we're all great friends, definitely. Yeah, yeah. So basically what you've got on here is the flash moment. Yeah, flash hour. So we're not going to waste much time with this intro.
Starting point is 00:03:11 We're just going to let you listen to the interview. It's genuinely my favourite interview that we've ever done on the podcast. It's hilarious. And I really hope you enjoy it and I really hope you understand. Our show, Heartthrobs? Our show, Heartthrobs, is 9.45 every night at the Pleasance Courtyard in Edinburgh because you might not even be in Edinburgh let's be honest
Starting point is 00:03:27 we're completely tied up in this little bubble and yeah I'm mixing metaphors there we are tied up in a bubble tied up in a bubble an evil wizard
Starting point is 00:03:34 has tied us up and put us in a fucking bubble yeah with a with a sparkly silver string yeah exactly yeah exactly it just came out the end of his wand
Starting point is 00:03:42 yeah or not even it's not even string it's light yeah just made of light a bit of light tied not even string, it's light. Yeah. Just made of light. A bit of light inside a bubble up. Anyway, it's every night, 9.45pm, Pleasance Courtyard. And also... Oh, extra shows.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Don't say it like that. Well, do you know what I mean? Don't say it like that. Don't say it like... Oh, extra shows. I think you sometimes forget that I'm... Extra 50. Me?
Starting point is 00:04:02 What? Don't give it away. Sorry, 24. Yeah, there we go. Thank God for that. I think, no, I think you sometimes. Sorry, 24. Yeah, there we go. Thank God for that. I think, no, I think you sometimes forget that I'm, like, older than you. Yeah, because you keep being like, oh, Ed, come on, we're the same age. If I, what, you think I should get up in the morning and go, knock, knock, knock, knock,
Starting point is 00:04:16 knock, hello, 40. What, you think I'm going to do that? Maybe a cup of tea. Maybe a cup of tea and a biscuit, get a bit of blood sugar up. No, that's my problem. No, but I still need it at my age, man. Honestly, if you come to Edinburgh, just come and find biscuit, get my blood sugar up. No, that's my problem. No, but I still need it at my age. Honestly, if you come to Edinburgh, just come and find us, and you come and shadow me for a day and see what I have to tolerate,
Starting point is 00:04:32 see what I have to deal with. And what we'll do is we'll put sellotape around your legs so they're really stiff like an old man, right, and you can experience it. You'll see him just shooting off everywhere, going, oh, let's go there. All right, then. He's gone, gone, gone. it. You see him just shooting off everywhere. Oh, let's go there. All right, then. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:04:46 He's gone. Just wandering about behind him. And then it's boring for him because he's got to stop and wait by a trundle up and in. No, man, mate. There's no one my age working as hard as me at the moment. Oh, there is. Oh, there isn't, mate.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Barack Obama. Not working as hard as me, mate. He is. He's the president, mate. How old is he? I don't know. Oh, there is. Oh, there isn't, mate. Barack Obama. Not working as hard as me, mate. He is. He's the president, mate. How old is he? I don't know. 45, 46? I'm not 45, 46.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Is he? Yeah, he's in his 40s. I don't know. A little competition today. To win, to be in with the chance of winning free tickets
Starting point is 00:05:17 for our show, Heartthrobs, maybe write in on the Twitter or on Facebook or something and tell us the age of Barack Obama. Yeah, go on Wikipedia,
Starting point is 00:05:24 look up Barack Obama's age and tell us about it. Yeah, do that for us. So anyway, we're getting distracted. We'll give away 20 quid worth of tickets. The fact that we have extra shows. These, from now on, are going to be every Friday and every Saturday night at quarter past midnight
Starting point is 00:05:40 in the same venue that we're in now, Pleasance Below, in the Pleasance Courtyard. As you can hear, that car going past, it was an ambulance, parking in now, Pleasance Below, in the Pleasance Courtyard. As you can hear, that car going past, it was an ambulance going, parking itself up outside Pleasance Below in anticipation of me being carried out 13 minutes into them shows. Well, a lot of your problem is
Starting point is 00:05:53 you are wrapping sellotape around your legs every morning. I know, but that is because that is my thing. That is my hook, mate. Anyway, so 9.45 every night, come to that. And then, Friday and Saturday nights, quarter past midnight in the same room, pop along to that. Because I think they're going to be a looser affair. Yeah, you might want to grab a drink before you come in.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Like we are. Yeah. Here's Romesh Ranganathan. Pickle can gamble, pickle can gamble. Well, there's a right grumpy so-and-so walked into our... Here he is. Where is he? Luxury apartment now.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Romesh Ranganathan. Hello, mate. How are you, man? Really good. Took me a long time to learn your name. Yeah. Is that commonplace?
Starting point is 00:06:27 That's not racist is it? To tell me that you had to practice it. I didn't practice it. That's racist. Is that racist? I practice it in front of the mirror every day.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah? Yeah. Somebody, I did, do you know Bennett Aaron? Yeah. Bumped into him the other day in Forbidden Planet in London.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Forbidden Planet? What were you looking for? I was going to have a little browse in there but he was in there with one of his kids. So yeah, an excuse to be in there, didn't you? Yeah. You were sitting there being like a bit of a weirdo.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And he went, are you going to Edinburgh? I went, yeah. And he went, I'm not, I'm going on an holiday. I went, all right, bye Bennett. That's probably the best, best anecdote I've heard. Yeah, thanks. You try yours now. Well, basically, I was in a weekend with him.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Right. And on the first night he said Of gigs? Yeah yeah I was doing an all day with him Yeah yeah Well Bennett and I
Starting point is 00:07:11 get on quite well It was the first time I'd met him that weekend I felt like we had sort of a connection What was that? Just sort of I don't know
Starting point is 00:07:18 You could just feel it I wouldn't say sexual Right I would say Why? To protect it? Yeah because you don't want to make it
Starting point is 00:07:25 impure like I thought you know if we actually do this it might break something I mean you know the energy anyway so
Starting point is 00:07:34 which way around do you imagine you'd be I would like to give really I'd like to drive is that overall if you were in a no I think with Bennett
Starting point is 00:07:42 yeah with other people like if it was you Ray I'd definitely receive. You could imagine yourself being submissive towards me. Definitely. Yeah, that happens a lot. I reckon that'd work, because I'd like to give to you, Ed. So we could just human-centered.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Why is that? Why is that? What do I give off and what does Ed give off that makes Ed the letterbox and me the postman? What is it that does that? You look like somebody that always delivers. I was just doing the postman thing. is it that does that? You look like something that always delivers. I was just doing the postman thing. There was nothing beyond that, I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Whereas sometimes I arrive when you're not in and you have to go and pick it up 24 hours later. And you have to have some sort of identification with you. Ed sometimes just sticks a card through. Yeah, exactly. I'll tell you what I think it is. If it was you, Ray, you're very much a man you've got the man look
Starting point is 00:08:28 so you want, like you just like behind really doing it and I'm sort of, you know, I'm a bit smoother but what do you reckon would happen if people saw us in our show where I'm a bit stupid and I'm a bit sort of silly and childish so do you think when ladies or gentlemen are watching our show
Starting point is 00:08:43 they're going, oh I bet he would give me gentlemen are watching our show they're going oh I bet he would give me a good one or are they going oh I bet that would be an absolute disaster.
Starting point is 00:08:48 No because in that situation you might agree with me here Romesh in that situation you'd still want you to give it
Starting point is 00:08:55 to them because if they were giving it to you and you were that silly character that would genuinely feel like child abuse.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I say I say I say. Yeah that's a very good point actually. It's something I hadn't thought but it's under the surface isn't it? Yeah. It's quite a sexy podcast. It's like Angela Barnes last year.
Starting point is 00:09:09 This is getting all randy. Oh my god. Nice. So you're wicked with Bennett. Yeah and he said to me I've been practising your name all day mate. I said wicked. He said is it Romesh Ranganathan? And I thought he'd been practising that all day. So I just went yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So he introduced me to Romesh Ranganathan and I thought he'd been practising that all day so I just went yeah so he introduced me to my Shranganathan and that was fine I didn't really affect the gig it took me a couple of minutes to get them on board
Starting point is 00:09:32 because I just thought hold on a minute that's not the way I think Sri Lankan surname should be pronounced but after a while they bought into
Starting point is 00:09:38 the surname it was fine where was the gig at? Birmingham Highlight they would have been appalled that that name was on the bill anyway I imagine
Starting point is 00:09:43 so it actually premieres as a bonus. And then the next day he came up to me and said, Romesh, how do you pronounce your surname? And then I thought, oh God. So I just went, Ranganathan. I remembered how it was pronounced. Oh really? Yeah, of course. And then he said, no, how do you really pronounce your surname? And then I went, Ranganathan. He goes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Because he very proudly told Michael Legg that I've got your name right it was at that point that he corrected me I used to like you I now think you're a prick oh that's a horrible story
Starting point is 00:10:13 I mean he was only joking yeah I'm not sure he was do you reckon knowing Bennett as I know him that sounds like he's are you serious
Starting point is 00:10:20 yeah oh I thought it was alright because I did that kind of awkward sort of I was just trying to be polite no I think that's it unbelievable let's start a new section
Starting point is 00:10:27 that is absolutely disgraceful from being our own let's start a new section and I'll tell you what he did genuinely introduce me he said I'm going to get you back tonight introduce me as Romesh Rangatang oh
Starting point is 00:10:37 oh or Rangananganangatang or something like that right let's we'll come away from that that's not alright mate we'll come away from that that. Right. We'll come away from that. That's not alright, mate. We'll come away from that.
Starting point is 00:10:46 That's not alright. We'll come away from it. Pick up and gamble. Pick up and gamble. So we're at the Edinburgh Fringe. Mm-hmm. Where you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Oh, is that your key? Me? My key to say where I'm at? What's that noise you're doing? What noise? Talking, I thought. What do you mean? What's that noise you're making?
Starting point is 00:11:03 That's not me, mate. That's not... Well, I mean, I went to... We've interviewed that noise you're making? That's not me, mate. We've interviewed loads of people. That's never happened before. Maybe I shouldn't have gone to Moss Kitchen before. That's the problem, mate. So we're at the Edinburgh Fringe. Is this your first solo show?
Starting point is 00:11:16 It is, mate, yeah. That's quite weird because you're sort of soaring a little bit, aren't you, at the moment? I don't know about soaring. I think you are. I think you're doing really well. Let's watch Romesh get incredibly uncomfortable while we compliment him because that's the sort of thing
Starting point is 00:11:27 that will happen. But you are though, aren't you? You've took off a little bit. You're not a big star. You're stupid. I didn't want it
Starting point is 00:11:34 to go in that direction. I'm happy to be self-deprecating. There's a good chance nothing more will happen. You're doing alright. You've done Russell Howes Good News
Starting point is 00:11:45 that was great thanks man join the club welcome I didn't compliment you I said you did Russell Howes Good News you went oh yeah thanks
Starting point is 00:11:53 no I meant I wasn't saying thanks for saying I did Russell Howes Good News I said thanks because you did the warm up you were lovely
Starting point is 00:11:59 now I regret saying it you've got me down as your warm up actor oh my god this is unbelievable I. This is unbelievable. I agree. It is unbelievable. This isn't what I signed up for.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I thought this would be a pleasant thing. It is a pleasant thing. You're the one that's coming here, Billy Big Bullets. I wasn't Billy Big Bullets. Who I've been on Russell? That was good news. And you're my warm-up man. I didn't even mention it, mate.
Starting point is 00:12:18 You're the one that brought it up. Right, can I just say this? This is like Bennett Aaron all over again. This may not be what you signed up for, but this is the reason we asked you to do this. Yeah, this is what it is, mate. This say... This is like Ben and Aaron all over again. This may not be what you signed up for, but this is the reason we asked you to do this. Yeah, this is what it is, mate. This is what it is. Let's bully that shithead for as long as possible.
Starting point is 00:12:31 We're not going to change our podcast. If you didn't do the research, you didn't listen to any beforehand, that's your luck now, mate. This is what happens on our podcast, right? That's what happens, right? Okay, fine, let's just see where this goes, because, honestly, I'm not happy with it so far.
Starting point is 00:12:43 We're not going to come in today and just go, oh, we're going to have a different podcast today. We're all going to bum Romesh Ranganathan. Just because I think he will enjoy that. And it'll be all big loving about how well his career's doing. He'd enjoy it if it was you. But to be correct, it wouldn't be all bumming Romesh Ranganathan. You'd be bumming me.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I'd be giving it to him. Of course, of course. We established that. We did. You pay attention, mate. That was established in that one. That's our callback. You have to get it correct from the first time. I can't get my head around that. We did. You pay attention, mate. That was established in that one. That's our callbacks. You have to get it correct
Starting point is 00:13:05 from the first time. I can't get my head around You'd be in the middle and we'd be like a Nutella sandwich. Oh, I was going I was thinking Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Lovely. There are other chocolate spreads available. But you are doing well. That is true. That is true. That's just a fact. Are you enjoying yourself?
Starting point is 00:13:21 I'll begrudgingly say that. You're doing well. Thanks. Thanks? I'm allowed to say thanks because the last time I said it kicked off, didn't it? Apparently that's that. You do that. Okay, thanks. Thanks? I'm allowed to say thanks because the last time I said it it kicked off, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Apparently that's offensive. You did Russell Owes Good News. In this podcast. I don't want to say please. You might shit your pants, mate. Right. People like you is what makes people racist.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Do you know what? It's funny you say that. I've often thought this, right? That I'm such a grumpy prick that I reckon if somebody was on the fence and thinking they might not like Asian people, bumping
Starting point is 00:13:49 into me in the street might be the one that tips them over. I reckon I've contributed to the support of the EDL. When people have just bumped into me in the street, I'm not sure about Asian. I tell you what, if I meet one more, and then they get in front of me in a queue yeah that confirms
Starting point is 00:14:06 it they're pricks they're all pricks but people do that genuinely racist people are always going to be racist I think
Starting point is 00:14:11 you're not going to change their mind on it because people do that like they go oh yeah yeah well one of them
Starting point is 00:14:15 nicked my cast area once yeah I know it's like oh yeah I got attacked by one once it's like that's
Starting point is 00:14:19 not one you got attacked by a person once there wasn't a message that went out to all of them we need someone to rob someone on this corner
Starting point is 00:14:28 if one of you could take this job that would be great do you think that comes back to the news saying a black person they'll rarely say a white person will they? I actually think it's a very complex issue
Starting point is 00:14:42 I think it's very easy people get on their high horses about Asian people or minorities taking jobs and stuff like that. It's very easy for people from well-to-do backgrounds to go, isn't that disgusting that people think like that, when you've not been affected by those things. If you're having these issues presented to you in that way, like, you know, immigrants are taking jobs and whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:02 and you're from a background where your job's not under risk and it's not a problem, then of course it's easy for you to go, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that people think like that. But if you're actually in that situation and you haven't got a job, or your dad hasn't got a job, and you're looking for something to blame, and so if you're given that opportunity, you will do. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying people need to look.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It's more complex than thinking these people are idiots. These people are victims of circumstance, and then they get messages sent to them, and then they start to formulate these ideas. But it's still born of ignorance, isn't it? It's still born of, you know, because on a vaguely, for want of a better phrase, black and white level, it can't possibly be linked.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So be pissed off that someone's got a job and you've not, but not pissed off because it's a black person who's got the job or a Jewish person who's got the job. Do you know what I mean? That's a bizarre link to make. I totally agree with you, but I do think it's human nature. Because if you look at it from, say for example, from a comedy point of view, right? If somebody gets a TV gig or something
Starting point is 00:15:57 that you don't get, you either think, you can either think, that person's better than me for that gig, and that's why they get booked. Or you can think, that person is of the right ethnicity or that person is is a woman or whatever it's easier to think that than to think that you're not as good as that person for that thing so if you're not getting a job yeah what's the easy thing to think is it easy to think well it's because i'm unemployable this is never gonna happen or is it because immigrants are coming and taking my job but then but then you can you can totally still mark someone down for taking the easier route
Starting point is 00:16:25 so it's not necessarily calling them an idiot but whilst that's what they are doing whilst that's comparable I agree whilst that is comparable we also do know
Starting point is 00:16:34 we know fact definitely that that does happen in television that there are boxes to be ticked and that there are
Starting point is 00:16:40 you know somebody gay or somebody black or of an ethnic origin. Welcome to the podcast, by the way. I'm happy to think about it's lazy and Asian.
Starting point is 00:16:50 That does happen. I'm happy to say that as part of it. Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. But anyway, we were saying that you're being successful,
Starting point is 00:16:58 and you are, and I think that's the problem, man. That's what's going on, so please don't take it personally at all. We're just going, well, I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:17:04 He started ages after us I've been around miles longer than you and yet you're the one who's going oh I'll get out of my time we'll stand up for the week you're doing is that true? no who's the one who comes out pointing at them all?
Starting point is 00:17:19 absolutely this is mate I hope Nick Griffin's one of your listeners because he is going to bloody love this I'm driving, that was just absolutely... This is, I mean, mate. In terms of... I hope Nick Griffin's one of your listeners, because he is going to bloody love this. He's pushing it. Yeah, obviously he is,
Starting point is 00:17:31 but we'll pull the rug on him when he finds out that we're not really. He'll be like, oh, I was championing you guys. No, go away, go away. Haven't you got a big TV gig? No. I thought you did. Who told me that?
Starting point is 00:17:42 Is it a secret? This is awkward. This is so bad. I thought you were going to be a regular on something secret this is awkward this is so bad I thought you were going to be I know what's happened here basically you've
Starting point is 00:17:48 heard some rumour that I'm going to be on something you've got me in on the strength of that am I going to have to leave
Starting point is 00:17:54 oh god no it's not that what we always do on this podcast is we have some established people and good people and some up and
Starting point is 00:18:01 comers give them a little lift up that's the bracket you fall into I've got to say i do think that this banter is unacceptable i do want to make i do want to make that clear why well just because you know it's having a joke and there's just character assassination mate you've used the word darky confused when not when not rewind it rewind it listener did you hear that
Starting point is 00:18:26 I bet you rewinded have you heard the word darky so far he said it darky he said it with venom as if that's what he'd say as he's given it to me
Starting point is 00:18:36 absolutely incredible I rate you I think you're good cheers mate I've said that before you know that you know that I rate you I'll give you a little yeah but do you know. I've said that before. You know that I rate you.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I'll give you a little... Yeah, but do you know what? I've got to be honest with you. Unbelievable, this guy. Are you going to do anything about this, Ed? Well, I'm enjoying it. You need to rein this in. What have I done? What?
Starting point is 00:18:54 He said he likes you. Oh, sorry. I was paying you a compliment. I do apologise. This is... You're kidding. So you don't want me saying uppity. Uppity.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah. About how well you're kidding so you don't want me saying uppity uppity yeah yeah what were we talking oh yeah about how well you're doing up until today I mean you can do that all you want but that's just making it
Starting point is 00:19:13 is that going to mess things up well there's a mic there yeah okay so think about it logically you don't have to point at your head when you're telling me
Starting point is 00:19:19 to think genuinely being a prick right right I'm going to get more confrontational no don't more confrontational I'm going to get more so right I'm going to get more confrontational no don't more confrontational
Starting point is 00:19:27 I'm going to get more so I'm going to get more objectionable I really want to say that you're going to I think say it oh hello right well
Starting point is 00:19:35 pull that the semi f-bomb if that's happening I should come I should be the nice guy okay yeah go on then Romesh thanks so much for coming on the podcast
Starting point is 00:19:42 thanks a lot for having me it's really great to have such a talented comedian talking to us. Yeah, thank you. So it's your first show this year. How's it going so far? Well, I did my first one yesterday.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Thank you. This is how you do it. Do you understand what I'm saying? Well, what happened at your first one? Did anyone come? This is incredible. So I'd imagine there was a lot of people watching it. I mean, it's the first one.
Starting point is 00:19:59 OK, now I've got to be honest with you. You sound a bit patronising. Well, no. I think what you're doing... I actually can't win with you. I actually can't win with you. I actually can't win with you. You're hardly known for being a really easy guy to get on with, Romesh. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:20:11 That is so true. That is true. I mean, yeah, that is true, but... But is that put on? Hold on, hold on. No, no, no, listen, listen, listen. Is it a character? Is it a character or is it you in real?
Starting point is 00:20:21 No, look... We want you in real now, thank you. This is me in real. Right, well, fine. This is me in real defending myself when I'm attacked, when I'm invited to somebody's flat under the pretense of doing some sort of podcast that's going to be fun on the second day of me being in Edinburgh.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Are you not having fun? And you're both being a pair of pricks. Are you not having a laugh? Letting off a bit of steam? Oh, this is amazing. This is what you... Do you know what? This is what you need.
Starting point is 00:20:41 You're going to give yourself an ear, mate. I think this is exactly what you need. You should come here every day and we'll have a row. Oh, yeah, brilliant. And then when you find me dead in my flat at the end of the month, you know it's because of you. I won't find you dead because I wouldn't even be looking. I wouldn't be looking when you're missing, mate.
Starting point is 00:20:53 No, you'd be around Paul Chowdhury's house because you can't tell the difference between us. Can you, you prick? Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble. So what's your show about, Romesh? I don't like your tone. Right. How...
Starting point is 00:21:06 What's your fucking show about? Do you know what? Fine. Let's reverse this. You interview us. You interview us. That's fine. Alright.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Romesh Rakanathan, what time are you on at? You interview us in a way that you would like to be interviewed. What time are you on at? May, 10 to 7. Where at? Underbelly. Right, there's the plug for your show. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:21 The podcast's over, so now you interview us. Is the podcast actually over? No, no, we're still going to record it. So I'm going to interview you. It's now, Ramesh interviewing Peacock and Gumball. Okay, well before we start, what would you guys like me to ask you about? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:21:31 That's not how you do it. No, I'm preparing you, so I know what you want me to ask you. That's not how we do it. You don't do that. I know that's not how you do it, because you're not professional. So we're already having another argument.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Do you think this might be you, mate? Because we've had plenty of people in here. No, I had one row. We've had the lovely boy with tape on his face. Lovely guy. Yeah. Not a row. James Acaster the lovely boy with tape on his face. Lovely guy. Not a row. James Acaster. He's got tape on his bloody face.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I've been in a row. James Acaster. No row. No row. That guy's a sellout I've ever seen. Matt Lucas. Went round his house. No row.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Went round his house. I had to come here. There you go. Difference. You went to his home. I've had to come here and get abused out of locale. That's because Matt Lucas isn't in Edinburgh at the moment, is he not? He's in America at the moment, but he was in London.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Oh, sorry, my Matt Lucas track is broken today. I didn't know where he was. And we can't afford a ticket to where you're from. Oh, my God! We would have done it in Colombo, mate. This is the worst interview I've ever done. Just ask us questions. We're having no prep. Okay, right, no prep. Do it off the hook. This is the worst interview I've ever done Yeah What do you mean? Just ask us questions Okay fine
Starting point is 00:22:26 We're having no prep Okay right no prep Off the hook Hi guys Listen it's really great to be talking to you Cheers man You're both I respect you guys both
Starting point is 00:22:35 Oh thank you it's very kind of you Some of the stuff's a little obvious But most of it's really I don't need to say People know That's the reputation you've got Okay fine It's understandable
Starting point is 00:22:44 It's like dairy milk You know you enjoy got okay it's understandable it's like um dairy milk you know you enjoy it but it's not spectacular yeah but you keep going back whereas i'm more of a fruit and nut that's yeah yeah i suppose so so guys tell me i think we should probably think about because i think you know it does separate you in the way that you do it it separates from other people you know it's far more credible it's far more you know we do admire you but i think what one of the problems is when you're a double act is yet there's certain conventions you have to adhere to um so we do that and we're we are actually a traditional double act but i think we do do kind of kind of imaginative and subversive things within that or we try to do that anyway wow that was a really good answer really good
Starting point is 00:23:16 insight into what you do there it's really great um ed how are you enjoying edinburgh so far i'm really enjoying myself uh it's uh you know the show's gone well so far? I'm really enjoying myself. It's, you know, the show's gone well so far. We're really enjoying doing the podcast. Number one in the podcast charts. Yeah, I saw that. Really well done, guys. Even though apparently
Starting point is 00:23:30 we're doing it wrong. Yeah, we're just slipping, we're slipping into a little routine now, which will, you know, we'll stick within that.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah. Yeah. It'll be lovely. Yeah. The odd blip. Yeah. What's that? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Nothing. Just add the odd blip. You know, you always have the odd blip in Edinburgh. Just add one, doesn't it? Are you calling me an odd blip? What the hell is that? What is that? in everything. Just add one, doesn't it? Are you calling me an odd blip?
Starting point is 00:23:45 What the hell is that? What is that? So, it's clearly you, isn't it? No, it's... That's established as you. No, no, no. That's you. Because what's not coming across...
Starting point is 00:23:53 You're always on edge. That is you. I'm not on edge. He's talking about the fact that that lamp there, the bulb has gone and we really like that lamp because it was like a daylight lamp and that blew the second they were in. You were talking about a blip.
Starting point is 00:24:01 That lamp. I couldn't sleep the other night. That's the odd blip. That was a blip. I cracked my head open in the show last night. That's a blip, right? No sleep the other night. That's the other blip. That was a blip. I cracked my head open in the show last night. That's a blip, right? No one has mentioned you. I'm really...
Starting point is 00:24:08 Romesh, it's your first solo run in Edinburgh. Yeah. You're this angry already. I'm really worried about what's going to happen, mate. You've come up here with a chip on your shoulder, which is fine if it's in character, but if that's you in real life, you're going to genuinely do yourself a mischief
Starting point is 00:24:21 because you're going to have high blood pressure. Yeah. You've got a family and things to think of you can't be wiping yourself out going oh yeah I'm going to die like Jim Morrison
Starting point is 00:24:29 I don't recall ever saying that as a metal it was in my toe yeah it was in my toe I was in my toe was it
Starting point is 00:24:37 so aggressive how many children have you got two how do you think they're going to grow up if they're subjected to this all the time
Starting point is 00:24:43 if they're shown oh this is the time? If they're shown, oh, this is the way to behave. Well, because the thing is, I wouldn't subject my children to that because they've never gone to me,
Starting point is 00:24:50 hello, Paul Chowdhury. Right, that doesn't happen. I didn't mention Paul Chowdhury. Somebody told me that Ramesh Ranganathan has got a regular TV gig. Definitely happened
Starting point is 00:24:58 the other week, somebody told me that. Because you did so well on Good News, which you did, you were fantastic. Actually, I do want to say this,
Starting point is 00:25:03 all animosity aside, you were fantastic to me on Ross Howes Good News, I want to were fantastic actually I do want to say this all animosity aside you were fantastic to me on Russia House Good News I want to thank you for that why? just the way you
Starting point is 00:25:10 looked after me made me feel comfortable absolutely fine can you not remember how we got along? yeah we did get along you kept sending me
Starting point is 00:25:16 texts going thank you thank you thank you well you sent me a text back saying gay you did say gay?
Starting point is 00:25:23 yeah you did that's exactly the sort of thing you were doing I didn't say just gay on its own yeah you did that's exactly the sort of thing you were doing I didn't say just gay on it's own no you said gay something or other I don't want to read the whole text it went on a bit
Starting point is 00:25:29 well there you go so we get along just fine yeah just fine yeah and by the way I don't do that every week I do
Starting point is 00:25:35 do you not with every performance no not at all I'm very supportive I'm very supportive regardless of what I think of the app by the way because I haven't done it myself
Starting point is 00:25:43 and me and Ed both did it as ourselves. Yeah, I saw you, I thought you were great. And together, thank you. Thanks, mate. I thought you were great. But we know what the stresses are of that, and how difficult it actually is.
Starting point is 00:25:51 So the last thing you want is someone being a dick to you. No. And by the way, the people who have come in and been dicks at Russell's Good News have been the ones that have often not done very well at all. Yeah, been dick. Yeah. Yeah, been dicks.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Been dicks. It's funny, isn't it? Do you not think, yeah? Yeah, I think a lot of what he says is funny. Are your family up with you in Edinburgh? Absolutely not, mate. No, are they coming up at all? Well, okay, no, they're not.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'll tell you why, because I've got two children. The older one is fine, the younger one is a complete arsehole. There's no way you can bring him out to Edinburgh. It'd be ridiculous. What sort of arsehole? He thinks he's your child. Well, okay, we went to a birthday party,
Starting point is 00:26:28 like a kid's birthday party. The older one runs off and is just sort of playing. Okay, I'm going to just pull you up straight away. You say we went. They went to the birthday party. You took them. Yeah, but we all went there,
Starting point is 00:26:36 didn't we? No, but it wasn't me. Do you not think... Take a breath, take a breath. Right, right, right. This is getting out of hand. Ray, Ray, Ray. Romesh was telling a story.
Starting point is 00:26:44 He was, and I interrupted it. I'm sorry. Ray, Ray, Ray. Romesh was telling a story. He was. And I interrupted it, I'm sorry. Ray, what you're doing now is known as a Ranganathan. It's incredible. Right? Keep telling, I'm protecting you, Romesh. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:53 No, thank you. Right, sorry. It's known as a Ranganathan. Sorry, I'm sorry. Ed's sorry for that. Ed's sorry for that. I'm sorry for it. Ranganathan.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Right. So go on, what were you saying? I can feel us slipping down the charts. Yeah. It's actually a tangible feeling. I can feel herring on my neck. It's horrible. It's a horrible feeling.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Sandy Toksvig re-cried. I don't like any of this at all. So please, let's try and fight I don't want to get in the news with this podcast for this reason did you hear Peacock and Gums podcast
Starting point is 00:27:30 it was so racist both ways I don't think I've been racist I think you came in here with an issue with one but anyway either way I didn't come here with an issue
Starting point is 00:27:42 but I've got one now I'll tell you that much and that's how easy it happens the tipping point the old whitey tipping point I call it so Gwen you went to this birthday party yeah
Starting point is 00:27:55 oh yeah I went to this birthday party sorry the children went we accompanied them and by we I mean myself and my wife perfect is that ok is that all clarified
Starting point is 00:28:02 yeah done anyway the oldest one. Eldest or oldest? Up to you, mate. Your speech, up to you. Okay, thank you. Well, it was my speech, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:28:10 But then you interrupted. Conversation. Guys, I think we're either going to have to take half an hour for you two to ban, or we're just going to have to let each other tell each other's stories. Okay, all right, fine. No, you're absolutely right. I'm going to back off unless I have a proper issue with what you said. No, if you've got a proper issue, you write it down and you pass it to me.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Fine, fine. Okay, have you got a pen and paper? No, I'll put my hand up. All right. Well, maybe that's not what you said you should do. Okay. So anyway, so... You can't even follow instructions.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Goodbye. So the eldest one is running around playing and stuff like that. So we're just looking at what he's doing. Turn around, the youngest one, just randomly punching kids in the face. Just wandering around and punching kids in the face. And we don't even know most of the people there. So he's quite aggressive. Very aggressive.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Where does that come from? Because your primary socialisation is your parents, isn't it? So, I mean, a child wouldn't be aggressive for no reason. That's a common misconception. You're not born evil. I'm not suggesting I didn't say my son was evil. You're listening.
Starting point is 00:29:11 You made a little bit of a link there. I was in the middle of saying I'm not suggesting that your child is evil. I'm not suggesting that at all. What I'm saying is is there are clearly now
Starting point is 00:29:19 already signs. There are signs at this point that he will be evil. No. Unless there's an intervention. Have you seen when you talk about Kevin? Yeah. Have you read that one? evil no unless there's an intervention have you seen we need to talk about Kevin yeah
Starting point is 00:29:26 have you read that one yeah now there's clues out there yeah that's about a child who goes on to shoot loads of children yeah
Starting point is 00:29:31 but my son's called Alex right okay well then we need to talk about Alex okay because if your child is going to birthday parties and punching children in the face apropos of nothing
Starting point is 00:29:41 yeah apropos that has come somebody's got a thesaurus that has come from somewhere that has come from somewhere that has come from somewhere hasn't it well I think
Starting point is 00:29:47 is the punching at home is there punching at home from him sometimes yeah he punches has he ever seen you punch either your wife or your other child
Starting point is 00:29:55 has he been subjected to that in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way in any way Has he been subjected to that? In any way, shape or form. Fuck me, we're going to have to put this out at night. We'll put it out at night. This isn't a proper adult thing.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And if you don't, if you've got to have a reasonable intelligence to understand that this is like, this is pretend a bit, a bit. Has he been subjected to violence at home, your child? No. Not in any way? Okay, but... Do you let him watch 18s?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Anything like that? No. But you do raise an interesting point. I'll tell you why. Because the older one, same upbringing. Yeah. Right? Very different child.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Boy or girl? Both boys. Both boys, okay. Nature nurture. Yeah. Yeah. They hold the bait, guys. The older one, very chilled out, almost too passive.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Like, we were worried about the fact that he was sort of getting pushed around and not really doing anything to defend himself. Okay. The youngest one, we're going to have to put a muzzle on him or something. Right, bully. I'll be a bully. Maybe. Could end up a bully.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Well, he's just very, he's very aggressive. I'd argue, and you said maybe, I'd argue going to the birth party, punching children is a bully. Okay, but the thing was, he's a lot smaller than these children. That doesn't matter. It's not David and Goliath. They should be complemented. I'm not saying it was David and Goliath.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Like Begbie in Trainspotting, he's smaller, isn't he? Yeah, that's true. I should have thought of that when I was bringing up the kid. Maybe it's because your youngest child is so small. Yeah. I don't know why. Is it just age or is he smaller than he should be anyway? I mean, he is smaller than he should be. They both are smaller than they are.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Do you think there's been like a sperm issue? Problem in the genes somewhere, yeah. This is incredible. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me just clear this up. In two minutes, this man has suggested that I punch my wife in the butt. I'm not suggesting that. And you suggested there's something wrong with my swimmers. All in the course of two minutes.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And then when I say something, ooh, Ranganathan's got a problem, hasn't he? He's got a bit of a chip on his shoulder. I've been subjected to an attack. I asked you, Hadi, I didn't say that was happening. I said, I'm not living in your house. I don't know what's going on there. I think it's safe to say,
Starting point is 00:32:01 you don't have to live in someone's house to assume they're not punching their wife and child. I'd love to see you in the dark saying, oh, all these people in the jury weren't there, so why are they making assumptions that I killed all them women? I mean, that is taking it way too far. It is evidence. I'm trying to get the evidence. His comparisons are absolutely ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Romesh, listen to me, right? Romesh, listen to me. Your kids are very different. All I'm suggesting is that... Stop scowling and looking at your knees. Just look. Get your head up. Some of your sperm have all the aggressive genes and then some of them
Starting point is 00:32:30 This isn't twins. What are you talking about? Some of them are walkovers. And then with the eldest one, somehow one of the weak ones got through. Which is a compliment. And made the gentler child and then suddenly all of the aggressive ones attacked all the weaker ones,
Starting point is 00:32:45 and then that really aggressive sperm Are you suggesting there was some sort of civil war in my testicles? This could have happened. Is that what you're saying? Yes. I mean, that makes sense. Pickle can gamble, pickle can gamble.
Starting point is 00:32:57 What do you hope to achieve from the fringe, Ramesh? Well, if I'm being serious, I was chatting about this to Ed before. Ed Gamble. Ed Gamble, yeah. Co-host. Yeah. Did you reintroduce him?
Starting point is 00:33:07 Is that the way that this works? Yeah, probably, but it's just saying. All right, fine. Is it ticking over now? Yeah, it does. It does. There's been some low points. I just want to have a good...
Starting point is 00:33:15 I just want the show to be good and have a good run. But what I was saying to Ed is sometimes you forget, or sometimes the joy is taken out of it by being caught up in the whole maelstrom of you've got to, this is an opportunity to get a big break or this is your opportunity to suddenly get recognised. Somebody's going to come and see you at a show and something's going to take off. That pressure takes away, I think it takes a lot away from the sort of the enjoyment of, you know, because for me, like I've just got an hour of material together that I think is okay. I'm excited about it and I just want to go and do it every day. So do you think a lot of that pressure's taken off you
Starting point is 00:33:47 because you're on stand-up for the week? This is absolutely ridiculous. We just, it's every time you're doing it to each other. Every time. Next he's going to be asking me about my dinosaur impression. And that's when this is over. Right, you're doing, you're as bad as each other because one of you gets on a serious thing
Starting point is 00:34:03 where you're talking genuinely. And you just want to be smiling. All that's happening, I'm watching other because one of you gets on a serious thing where you're talking genuinely. And you start being smiling. All that's happening, I'm watching it in both of you, the other one is waiting for the thing that you've planned to say. That's not a conversation, guys. It's not.
Starting point is 00:34:13 He's right. That isn't a conversation. This is good, actually. It's good that we're clearing up because I think it'll just make the rest of the month easier. Yeah, okay. Not that I'm going to see you guys again.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Do you read reviews and things like that? Well, I haven't had any I don't intend to read them now okay good call I don't know how easy that'll be though it's easy
Starting point is 00:34:29 is it really yeah of course it is the only thing you need to be careful of is people talking to you about your reviews hardly happens but people only talk
Starting point is 00:34:37 to you about your good reviews doesn't that make sense I had a situation in 2009 where I was standing outside a bar with a few comedians. I'm not going to say which comedians, but one of the comedians had had quite a bad review in three weeks. So another comedian said, and again, I'm not going to say who that comedian was.
Starting point is 00:34:59 That comedian said to the other comedian who had the bad review. I'm lost here. No, I'm following it. Okay, go on. There was a comedian who had a bad review and there was another comedian. Comedian A had a bad review. Yeah, lost here. No, I'm following that. Okay, go on. There was a comedian who had a bad review and there was another comedian. Comedian A had a bad review. Yeah, and comedian B said,
Starting point is 00:35:09 and I'm not going to say who it was, said, Hooray, man! I read your review in three weeks. I really think they got the wrong end of the stick. Right, so that could happen. And the other comedian. That was Paul Chow.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Comedian A said, I'm not reading reviews, mate. And it went awkward and he walked out. And he dropped his driving licence and said Dan Atkinson on it. I think that's rare, though. I think that's a rare thing to happen, isn't it? That doesn't happen a lot.
Starting point is 00:35:33 No, no, no. I think most comics are savvy to the fact that, because it's an increasing thing, that people might not be reading their reviews. I mean, the worst thing with that is people say, no, are you reading your reviews? Yeah. Right, well, what is it you want to tell me? might not be reading their reviews I mean the worst thing with that is people say now are you reading your reviews yeah and they're like
Starting point is 00:35:45 right well what is it you want to tell me I think I know certainly I'm I guess because I don't read them anyway so I'm not have you always done that
Starting point is 00:35:54 not always no we did it last year and it really helped last year helped dramatically and then I was speaking to Steve Bennett from Chorl about this
Starting point is 00:36:00 last night just about reviews and stuff we were just in bed in bed like having a nice cuddle did he give or he went I'm going to give you five this year I went oh yeah a little love from Chortle about this last night, just about reviews and stuff. We were just so... In bed. In bed, like, having a nice cuddle and that.
Starting point is 00:36:06 He was saying, I'm going to give you five this year. I went, oh, you're a little love and I plunged it, plunged it right in. And he was saying... That was incredible. No, but we were just both talking about it and that
Starting point is 00:36:15 and just saying, you know, that, and it's a widespread thing now that there are people who just set up their own websites as Steve did many years ago. You know, he did that. So there's no saying that you can't end up credible,
Starting point is 00:36:24 but you can't go in as a big shot if you've only just started it and you're only learning that. There's no saying that you can't end up credible, but you can't go in as a big shot if you've only just started it and you're only learning that. You've got to learn somewhere. But it's this thing that has happened in time immemorial for me, since 99 certainly, of children reviewing.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Which, again, is fine, but you can't have a 17, 18-year-old kid coming in and saying what they know about comedy. Now, that's not to say they don't know anything about comedy because, of course, I knew a lot at 18 about comedy. Yeah, yeah. But when they are fundamentally
Starting point is 00:36:48 missing the point of things and to the point where you think this might be deliberate, you might be deliberately missing the point. Yeah. Like, we got that review in 2011 where there was a thing in our show
Starting point is 00:36:57 where... This is the main reason we don't read reviews anymore. Right, so this is the tipping point. Well, you can't kind of because it upsets us. It's certainly why I hate whites. But it didn't upset us because
Starting point is 00:37:07 it was a bad review. It upset us because it fundamentally misunderstood our show. And we couldn't work out how somebody could do that on such an enormous level unless they were a thick cunt. Unless they were absolute idiots. And the actual crystallising point in it was there was a bit in our show where I can't remember how it went
Starting point is 00:37:24 but it transpired. I said, I said I was black. Yeah. I'm not surprised at all. No, listen, no, listen, listen. This is exactly what I'd expect from you.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Well, listen, there was a thing about me being black and you said you're not black and I went, no, no, I'm like, I'm half black. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And you're like, what? I'm like, but I'm half only. Right? Right. And it was how, that was how I got one of my most famous acting roles.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And I'd pulled my jeans up and I had black legs you blacked up your legs no no no they were jet black tights I was wearing and walked up and down going Thomas
Starting point is 00:37:51 Thomas that's amazing yeah there we go right that is it's alright now really good the legs from Tom and Jerry that's amazing
Starting point is 00:37:58 the reviewer said we'd ripped that off Ali G what yeah said that Ali G has done that before a white man thinking he's black. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Right, so there you go. So that's what I mean. So that's what I mean. And that's what you're contending with. Yeah. So there's no point even entering into it. There's no point even,
Starting point is 00:38:14 and it didn't affect ourselves in the slightest, didn't affect our popularity in the slightest. We're still as unpopular as we always were. But it doesn't change anything. There's no point,
Starting point is 00:38:21 there's no point getting involved in the reviewing thing. Because we've got our quotes now you've got quotes already they're on your post already do you think it makes do you think
Starting point is 00:38:29 reviews make I mean why are we so obsessed with reviews only really good ones you reckon really good ones in Edinburgh if somebody's
Starting point is 00:38:36 listened to your podcast for example and then they for example I'm talking from an audience member I think it's easy for us to forget
Starting point is 00:38:41 what it's like for audience members if I liked you guys if I liked you guys and I wanted to come and see your show, and then I read a review saying it was terrible, I would still come and watch the show because I'd be a fan of it. So why are we worried about it? Well, we're not.
Starting point is 00:38:56 But I know that people are. I get it. But we've arrived at the point where we're not. We've got all the quotes we want. They can go and say what they want. As long as there are people sat in that audience at night we're happy with that as long as we're doing the show
Starting point is 00:39:07 we're happy with that middling reviews like two, three even four star reviews from most places make very little difference either way yeah
Starting point is 00:39:14 like five star reviews from broadsheets will make a difference in terms of in terms of audience sales but then they might bring the wrong people to you one star
Starting point is 00:39:22 one star reviews will probably make a difference in that your audience will probably be full of comedians for the rest of the run. So all you want is a happy French? Yeah, I just want to enjoy it. I want to be proud of the show that I'm doing. Are you not yet?
Starting point is 00:39:40 I've worked really hard on it. Yesterday I did it for the first time. It was good. Obviously, you're always going to feel like it could be better did it for the first time it was good it's still I still obviously you're always going to feel like it could be better yeah
Starting point is 00:39:48 but yeah I just want to enjoy it and feel like I've got a good hour which I did you know I've put the work in I don't feel like
Starting point is 00:39:53 you know however the month goes yeah I couldn't say that I didn't do enough previews that's what you want yeah that's what you want so you want to
Starting point is 00:39:59 at the end of it just go I did exactly what I wanted to do yeah I arrived at the point I wanted to arrive at yeah the podcast was a mistake podcast was a mistake.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Podcast was a mistake, fine. But you know that now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:40:09 you know, you might find out about your reviews, oh, I had some good reviews, I had some bad reviews, maybe either way, whichever you get. And,
Starting point is 00:40:15 you know, it's like, that doesn't matter. I've got a career, I'm doing well, I'm getting booked, and I can go back to Africa with my head held high.
Starting point is 00:40:21 It's incredible, because... I'm so sorry you you think there's some sincerity there and I thought
Starting point is 00:40:30 go back all he was doing was building up so bad isn't it because it just negates it negates everything you said
Starting point is 00:40:39 I meant I meant myself no it's like you can't say you've finished with going back to Africa with your head held high I meant myself. No, it's like the most... You can't say you've made yourself and you've finished with going back to Africa with your head held high.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I'm so... So horrible. We're going to get annihilated. You were getting so into it and I thought, wow, he really means it. I didn't mean it. He's been excited.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It was Africa reveal. You horrible, horrible bastard. You messed up head held high. I know, I do. Romesh, I want to ask you a question when you say you want a happy fringe what is happy for you
Starting point is 00:41:10 because some people you are grumpy you have a grumpy persona that's true you do and on stage I always like having
Starting point is 00:41:17 a conversation with you I always look forward to when I gig with you because I know you've got the grumpy persona and in conversation you'll be grumpy but in an affected way quite a lot of the time but I know you're got the grumpy persona and in conversation you'll be grumpy but in an
Starting point is 00:41:25 affected way quite a lot of the time but I know you're genuinely grumpy so I enjoy having a chat with you. Which is allowed. Having a little laugh and then trying to make you crack a little smile so I always like having a conversation with you and you'll always make things deliberately awkward as well. When you get like a little glint in your eye. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:41 A little glint in your good eye. Oh my god. Was the Africa thing not enough? Not really. No. Was the Africa thing not enough? Really? Let me just ask you this question. He didn't hit his head really hard last night. I've got concussion. And it made you racist.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I've never heard that before. Maybe it does. I don't know. I've got concussion at the moment. No matter what people say about this. You're on silence. I just want to address the audience. You're on silence for... Ray, you're on silence for... Yeah, but I'm... No, you're on silence. I just want to address the audience. No, you're on silence for three minutes.
Starting point is 00:42:07 You're on silence for three minutes. I will, I will. You're on silence for three minutes. Just tell them you can't complain about it, because I've got... I mean, they can. They can complain, but please understand I've got...
Starting point is 00:42:14 You're on silence for three minutes. I don't normally mind them. What's your perfect idea of happiness? I can't believe you just... Romesh. My perfect idea of happiness? What's your happiest day? You wake up, what's...
Starting point is 00:42:24 Straight through, what would you do on your happiest day? I'd go downstairs. Yeah. My wife wouldn't have left me. She wouldn't have left you? No, but she's in Menorca at the moment, and I'm here. Are you worried that she might be? Let's be honest, I'm not bringing a lot to the table.
Starting point is 00:42:37 You are, you are. You are. You're a good foil for us. Unbelievable. Are you... I thought it was on silence. Sorry, sorry, you did say three minutes silence. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:44 So your idea so far of a perfect day for you is your wife not getting a holiday. No, no, no, it's not her not getting a holiday. I mean, her not having left. She's allowed to go on holiday. I mean, I don't mean she's allowed... Oh, God. Okay, and then have some Froot Loops for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Froot Loops. I read your... You did a blog about Froot Loops. Yeah. Yeah. I like Froot Loops. See, but you said that in a way that you hate Froot Loops. No, I don't hate about Fruit Loops. Yeah. Yeah. I like Fruit Loops. Yeah. See, but you said that in a way that you hate Fruit Loops.
Starting point is 00:43:07 No, I don't hate Fruit Loops. It's just that they cause an issue in my life because basically I had Fruit Loops. How many minutes has it been? No. Oh, right, sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I mean, it starts again because you spoke. Right. And again. Is this how you deal with the youngest one? Well, yeah. And then a little dig.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah. So, anyway, the thing is I buy fruit loops yeah from an american import store yeah and my wife doesn't realize how important the fruit loops are to me regardless of how many times i've had the conversation yeah so sometimes i'll come downstairs and my son will be eating a bowl of the fruit which one which the eldest one the the youngest one. No. No? No, she wouldn't be that crazy. I mean, you can't give him sugar. He's punching people in the face after he's eaten carrots.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Who knows what would happen if that guy even smelt a fruit loop. He's got no idea what would happen. So, and then the thing is, you know, what annoys me about that is he doesn't know he's eating fruit loops. That could be bran flakes. He hasn't got a clue.
Starting point is 00:44:06 He's not got a discern of, he's not got a palate that can say, oh, these are Froot Loops I'm detecting. He doesn't have the discerning palate that's required for Froot Loops. I mean, yeah, no, he doesn't. I mean, I agree it's just sugar in a bowl, but it's good. So then you really shout at him. You really go like really angry at him for eating your Froot Loops, really angry. And then you turn around and the youngest one's sat in the corner watching and twisting
Starting point is 00:44:28 the head off a doll. Yeah, that's my perfect day. Peacock and Gamble Peacock and Gamble Oh, there we go. Nice interview there. Look, we opened up some issues, we got things out in the air. We have a responsibility.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Yeah, exactly. this is the thing some of you will come away from that going right i'm going to complain to itunes right i'm going to complain to my mp no point there's no point because we try contacting itunes yeah yeah have a go at that yeah see how you get your bit i have more joy reporting abuse on twitter topical very topical probably not when this It was topical when we recorded it, mate. Oh, yeah. Good point, mate. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:45:06 White hot. Yeah. White hot, that one. Tomorrow, our guest is hardly a hand in. Hardly a hand in. Hardly a hand in? Yeah. Hardly, okay, I'll just translate, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:45:21 It's Ardell O'Hanlon. Ardell O'Hanlon. Ardell O'Hanlon. Yeah, that'Hanlon. Ardal O'Hanlon. Yeah, that's a good one because I was soaking wet in that interview. And not because he was sexy, because it was raining. It was raining. We recorded it a while ago. It's with Ardal O'Hanlon.
Starting point is 00:45:32 You may recognise him off stuff and comedy. Yeah. So have a listen to that. That's out tomorrow. Thank you for joining us today. We do appreciate it. Do come and see our show if you can. It's at 9.45 Pleasant Courtyard.
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Starting point is 00:45:58 Heartthrobs Cubed. I don't know what that means. I think we should call it Fartthrobs. Fartthrobs is good yeah bit bluer for the later audience
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Starting point is 00:46:56 See you tomorrow. That should make people cry. Thanks for coming in. No worries. Is that all right? Yeah, we're just going to do... I've only got two pillowcases so we can do the photo.
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