The Peacock and Gamble Podcast - The Peacock and Gamble Podcast: Edinburgh Fringe 2013 Episode 8 (Adam Buxton)
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Pico and Gamble by point now. That'll keep our spirits up and then if we keep saying it, eventually it will be true. Yeah, I've got a bit of tuck biscuit
in my tooth.
You've got a bit of tuck biscuit
in your tooth.
You're on to,
you're exclusively eating
tuck biscuits this fringe,
aren't you?
That's what I'm eating today.
Yeah,
it's like you've been sponsored.
I was advised,
I was,
I have been sponsored
but I can't speak about that.
Yeah.
But I've been advised
to eat tuck biscuits
from being sick.
Yeah,
because you were sick.
Done sick all last night.
Yeah.
Not even done any drinking. Came off stage, felt very, very poorly indeed. Yeah, because he was sick. Done sick all last night. Yeah. Not even done any drinking.
Came off stage,
felt very, very poorly indeed.
Yeah.
But still, good boy,
cleared all the show away.
Cleared all the show away.
Just had a little wine,
like, oh,
I don't feel very well.
Went and got my props
all back in the dressing room.
Good boy.
Oh, sorry,
I need a bit more.
Right, right,
well that'll upset people.
And then I went through
to the toilet and done some sick. Then I went and came and sat down with you and our friends, Charlie need a bit more. Right, right, well, that'll upset people. And then I went through to the toilet and done some sick.
Then I went and came and sat down with you
and our friends, Charlie and Joe.
Yeah.
And then I felt a bit sick again.
Go and be a bit sick again.
Yeah.
Came back again, had some fizzy Coca-Cola that was flat.
Not fizzy Coca-Cola then, flat Coke.
That's fizzy.
Yeah.
And made it all flat.
Yeah.
Then drank that, sat on me a little bit.
Yeah.
Done a bit more sick.
And now I'm back to normal, I think.
Mate, you know, if you just talk about sick, it's going to upset people.
Because we've had enough complaints after Carey Marks made everyone feel like they were having a heart attack.
Oh, I'm sorry, everybody.
I keep my ailments to myself for fear of obsessing you.
It doesn't matter that I, Ray Peacock, am very, very sick at the moment.
You don't want to hear about that.
Well, I'll just let you know that me,
Ed Gamble,
is very, very well, thank you.
Right, well, that's fine.
Well, that's because
I have to do something different every day
than what you have to do.
But we can't talk about it
because it's involved with the show.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I'm all right now, I think.
Good.
So, halfway point,
what do we feel about the show?
Enjoying it.
Like spending time with my friend. Isn't it? Because it was funny last night. We were in our show last night. Yeah. So halfway point what do we feel about the show? Enjoying it. Like spending time with my friend.
Isn't it?
Because it was funny
last night.
We were in our show
last night.
Yeah.
But you told me
afterwards because
there was just a
Dickie audience
thing happened.
Yeah right at the
beginning.
Yeah somebody came
in late.
We came in late
so already Dickie
and our venue
the door into the
venue is at the
side of the stage
and we're on
we're like basically
the stage is on the
floor and the seats
are right up from there.
We're the performers and we're traditionally on the stage. Yeah we are on the stage and we're on we're like basically the stage is on the floor and the seats are wrapped up from there we're the performers and we're traditionally
on the stage
yeah we are on the stage
right but the door
is right next to it
so if anyone comes in late
they have to then
trump up some stairs
next to us
and it's really obvious
and you basically
have to reference it
so a man came in late
but not so late
it was ridiculous
but exactly the right point
to knock off the first
energetic bit of the show
agreed
trumped up the side
of the stairs.
We went, we didn't reference it, to be fair.
I don't think, oh no, you went.
We done a joke.
You went, oh, that's a great time to come in just after that.
You've missed so much.
Yeah.
He then sat down, started fiddling around with the ticket,
got up and went slow, took his time.
Yeah.
Walked down the stairs and started leaning.
I went, what, wrong show is it?
He went, no, someone else sold us a ticket.
And just like mumbled it. Yeah. But like it a ticket. And just, like, mumbled it.
Yeah.
But, like, it was fine.
And then he went out the door.
Yeah.
And then came back in the door.
With a boy.
With a boy.
Yeah.
And I said, that's the best trick I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah.
And I said, do you ever get to a show and ever just think, oh, I'll tell you what I'll
do before I watch this properly.
Go and buy a boy.
So, anyway, so it had been, the show had been fine.
Yeah.
But that, like like mooted us both
a little bit
but we didn't show it
but you said to me
after the show
that you had little moments
like that on the show
last night
where you were getting
slightly pissed off
with certain things
yeah
but then at the end
of the show
yeah
I did something different
than I normally do it
yeah
well you did a bit
a bit at the end
of the show
in an accent
in an Italian accent
for no reason
no reason whatsoever No reason whatsoever.
And you did it at me.
Yeah, right in your face.
Only for me.
It wasn't to the detriment of the show.
No.
It was just completely different.
Which is progress for me.
Yeah, that is excellent progress for you.
Just completely for me and for yourself.
And then I just thought, oh, just did Edinburgh pissing about with my friend.
And you can't be down
about that
but I am learning
though aren't I
my improvised bits
I'm learning to not
ruin the show with them
because like a couple
of nights ago
I said I prefer nothing
I've got AIDS
yeah so
so that was an example
of something that
would ruin the show
no two dolly birds
came up to me in a bar
yeah
and said that they
were at that show
and said that they
loved that bit
yeah
they said do you
always say you've
got AIDS
and I went no
that was a bit
of misjudgment
really
because half the
audience laughed
and the other
half of the audience
were appalled
and they went
I know we loved
that bit
we thought it was
lovely
well I'm glad
the dolly birds
enjoyed that
and I went oh
nice to meet you
anyway
what are your
names
and she went
oh I'm Alice
oh I'm Erin
and I went oh
give them a kiss
and then they went
no not here
and I went alright
then we went into toilets at the Pleasant's kiss and then they went no not here and all right then
and we went in the toilets at the at the plazas dome and um they went twos up on me lucky ladies
right at what point did that lie start they came and said that they enjoyed
one of them i think one of them was too big yeah she's too tall for me is that it yeah is that so
you said no to her? I feel stupid.
Yeah.
I feel so stupid.
What's your height limit with a lady?
Well, that's interesting.
Because I've been out with a lass who was, I think she was 6'2".
Can I just chat?
I'm just ticking off all the sort of northern misogynist terms.
Dolly birds and lass.
Lass is alright.
Lass?
Oh, come over here, you fine lass.
You've been fine, fettle.
I'll slap you on the behind. Look at those hips. You could stuff four children in there. Lass is alright. Lass? No, come over here, you fine lass. You didn't find fettle. I'll slap you on the behind.
Look at those hips.
You could stuff four children in there.
Donny Bird, I understand.
That's kind of vaguely derogatory, but it's not meant in that way.
Yeah.
But lass is alright.
Lass sounds like a cattle term.
I just think it...
Alright then, tart.
Alright, fine.
Yeah.
Out of this tart ones, she was 6'2".
But I did always feel a little bit sort of...
6'2"?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's taller than me.
I'm 5'6". Wow. Felt a bit weird. I'll show you some photos of me and Ed together. Yeah. It bit sort of... 6'2"? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's taller than me. I'm 5'6".
Wow.
Felt a bit weird.
I'll show you some photos of me and Ed together.
Yeah.
It does look kind of weird.
Yeah, it would do, yeah.
Yeah, but all the same, I'm lying down, aren't we?
Depends if you lie head to head.
Actually, that's not true.
Lying down, I am taller than her.
Because I've got the belly.
Which shorts down nice.
Yeah.
Hey, I bought you a present.
Thank you very much.
I do appreciate it. No, hang on. Let present. Thank you very much. I do appreciate it.
No, hang on.
Let's see how you appreciate it.
Halfway point, of course.
So we always buy each other presents at the halfway point.
I brought you a brilliant present, didn't I?
Bought.
I brought, yeah, but I brought it from the shop.
That's true.
I bought it out of the shop and then brought it from the shop.
Well, you built it up rather unfairly, I felt, because you said, oh, I've got you a present.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, that's nice.
Obviously, I'm not feeling very well.
Yeah.
So it's got me a present.
How nice.
Well, I bought you a drink as well. So that's fine. Thank you. Gave you that. Then I said, I'm not feeling very well. Yeah. So, he's got me a present. How nice. Well, I bought you a drink as well.
So, that's fine.
Thank you.
Gave you that.
Then, as I said, I got you another present.
It's a lovely present.
It says friends on the side.
Yeah, exactly.
And we are, aren't we?
Yeah.
And then I brought you from the shop.
Bought you.
Brought you.
Oh, it's a minefield, this.
It's not as easy.
Bought is when you buy something and brought is when you bring something.
Yeah, and I did both.
Yeah, okay.
So, how about you jump out of your ivory tower and smash your head onto stone?
Becoming your catchphrase is a fringe, that ivory tower.
Ivory tower it is, yeah.
I think it's because you've secretly got one.
I know, a secret.
How can you secretly have an ivory tower, mate?
You've got really big trees in your garden.
You can hide it.
But anyway, this present.
Yeah, it was an unofficial, unauthorised Shane Ritchie biography.
You can't get many better presents than that in Poundland.
Sorry, in where?
You can't, in the shop that I bought it from.
Poundland?
Yes.
So you spent a pound on a present?
I'm sorry, do you not like Poundland?
Are you a little bit too famous for Poundland?
Do they not have a Poundland in your ivory tower?
He's back again.
Well, I was very, very happy with it,
and I appreciate it very, very much.
No, this is what happened,
ladies and gentlemen of the listening public.
I very proudly handed Ray
a copy of the unofficial, unauthorised
Shane Ritchie biography
called Simply Shane.
He looked at it,
snarled at it,
and threw it out of his bedroom window.
Into someone's back garden.
We're four floors up, don't we?
Yeah.
I can't be dealing with that bloke.
What do you mean?
It wasn't the bloke.
What do you mean it wasn't the bloke?
It was just a book.
So I'd have been reading Shane Ritchie's unofficial biography.
Yeah.
I'd have been reading that, and it would have no mention of Shane fucking Ritchie in it.
No, but he was not in it.
He's not literally in it.
You don't open it up and he pops out and goes, what?
I don't want to hear about him. What? I've no interest in his life. I think he's a it. No, but he's not in it. He's not literally in it. You don't open it up and he pops out and goes, what? I don't want to hear about him.
What?
I'm not interested in his life.
I think he's a dick.
Right, well.
Never really cared
for Shane Richie.
But maybe you would have found out
that he's not a dick
if you'd read the book.
I'm really, really
not confident in that.
But instead,
it went flying out the window
of your ivory tower.
But anyway,
if you're not Shane Richie
and you fancy seeing
some comedy up in Edinburgh,
why not come and see
Peacock and Gamble Heartthrobs?
9.45pm at the Pleasant Courtyard.
Every single night, apart from Fridays and Saturdays, when it's on twice.
It's on at 9.45pm and it's on at 0015.
Yeah, that's quarter past midnight Fridays and Saturdays nights.
Yeah, and now I'm concerned that I'll be being sick between shows.
That'd be awful.
I'll have an hour of sicking.
By the way, I spoke to our manager
this afternoon
and he said,
can we stop saying
we're going to be drunk
for the late shows?
Has he got a manager?
That bloke.
Rockabilly bloke.
James?
Yeah.
Is that our manager?
Yeah.
Well, what does he do?
He tells us things
like don't get drunk.
Well, we know that ourselves,
surely.
Did he?
Is he worried
that we are going to get drunk?
What he said... Oh, he wants it to be a surprise. No, what he said to me, I said he worried that we are going to get drunk? What he said...
Oh, he wants it to be a surprise.
No, what he said to me, I said,
yeah, we just need to, you know,
the late shows and stuff.
We were just talking about the late shows.
He went, yeah, I think you should stop saying
that you're going to get drunk for them.
Which I think he was saying we should stop saying it
to give people that expectation.
But secretly what he meant was,
don't get drunk for the late shows.
No, I've took this differently.
I think, and James, if this is right,
then you don't have to say anything at all.
If it's wrong, you've got to call me
within the next five minutes.
Yeah, but he's not here for this.
Mate, I don't make the rules.
But you have on this occasion, haven't you?
No, no, this is somebody else's rules I've borrowed.
Right.
If you are saying,
don't tell people we're going to be drunk for a surprise,
that's fine.
We'll just get a few bamboukas down surprise. Yeah. That's fine. We'll just get
a few bambookas down us.
Yeah.
In between the shows.
Great laugh.
Yeah.
I mean,
why does it matter
whether we tell people or not?
Right.
We're going to be drunk
to like just a load of chairs.
Maybe he's telling us
not to get drunk
because there's some
pretty big industry
big hitters coming in
to the quarter past midnight shows
because they're busy all day
watching stuff they don't like
and at the end of the night
they're like
I just want to cut loose
and watch some brilliant double act
Steve Coogan
Steve Coogan's coming in
that's one
Steve Spielberg's coming in
Steve Spielberg's coming down
with Georgie Lucas
Georgie Lucas
they're all coming down
so they're coming to the
extra shows
they're coming
Judd Apatow
brilliant
he's coming
so they're going to be
at the extra shows Elvis that's amazing mate so peopleow brilliant he's coming so they're going to be at the extra shows
Elvis
that's amazing
mate
so people if
they want to
come and do
some celebrity
spotting
ideally they
should come to
the weekend
shows
Shane Ritchie
I've heard
Shane Ritchie's
not setting
fucking foot
in our venue
what right
here's a point
what would you
do
can you see
people when they
come in
where you're
stood
you can't
I can't
either
so
what would you
do if we went out there
yeah
right
and it was full
apart from the front row
which only had
Shane Ritchie on it
it would make his life
a living hell
so you'd just do the show
normally
I'd have to do the show
as normal
make his life a living hell
yeah well there you go
perfect
like them girls
who were in the front row
the ones who kept jumping
they weren't both girls
were they
I thought it was
a mum and a daughter
they're both females
yeah but they're not girls I think there's a thought it was a mum and a daughter. They're both females.
Yeah, but they're not girls.
I think there's a certain point in a lady's life where she'd prefer not to be called a girl.
I'm sorry, everyone.
Those females that were in our audience, is that better?
They kept jumping, didn't they? They kept jumping every time I shouted.
Yeah.
They jumped a lot.
So that's the sort of thing you can hope for.
9.45, Pleasant's Courtyard.
Fridays and Saturdays, 9.45 and 0.00.15.
There we go.
Now, today's guest is...
Oh, God, who is it? Adam Buxton. Adam Buxton. Adam Buxton. Now today's guest is... Oh God, who is it?
Adam Buxton.
Adam Buxton.
Adam Buxton.
Very exciting.
It is very exciting.
That sounded kind of disrespectful when I was like, who is it?
But it's because I've just edited a load of interviews.
Here's Adam Buxton.
Peacock and Gamble, Peacock and Gamble.
Let's just chat, man.
Let's have a conversation.
We can't have a conversation at the moment because Ed has run away.
This is good though.
This is gold.
I love that, you know, that...
Adam and Walter started drinking it for some reason.
You got Adam O'Water and then you drank it.
It's like a BBC play, you know?
He's gone outside.
We're actually in a studio in Broadcasting House.
I'm going to pull you immediately
because if it's a BBC play,
then we're not fucking on it.
There we go.
Have you ever done one of those
BBC plays?
Not done a play, no.
We did a pilot
earlier in the year
and then Radio 4
didn't want to put it on.
Right.
Because it was so racist.
No, it wasn't just the racism.
It was...
Because they asked for that.
It was weird.
It was a weird one
because we wrote to order.
Not sufficiently
Guardian reader-ish.
Too subversive
but they'd asked for subversive
and I quote subversive. Too Guardian reader-ish. Yeahversive, but they'd asked for subversive and I quote subversive.
Too Guardian readerish.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's good Guardian readers and bad Guardian readers.
You turned into the bad.
Do you know what?
I think that any readers of anything are bad.
Anyone who is...
I know, well, it's very reductive of me
to characterise a whole demographic in that way, isn't it?
I don't think of people that way.
I don't think of people as...
You do, though.
Oh, even as he's saying it, he's winking.
No, but I...
I'm nudging them.
No, I mean, I don't...
It's not a helpful way of thinking about people.
I certainly don't think about people that way.
Even though, I mean, I guess there's a good chance
that a lot of people, for example,
who like my stuff might be like that. But then a good chance that a lot of people for example who like my stuff might be like that but then
I certainly come across a lot of people
who are not like that at all
in fact I played a video
I remember at a bug show I do this show called
bug where I show music videos and I
did a show in Norwich
not so long ago and there was
it was when the NHS was beginning to
get fuckerised
and there was a guy who did something called the Andrew Lansley rap.
Okay.
And it was Andrew Lansley.
I can't remember the...
Look it up.
It's funny.
I mean, if that's all it was, Adam, if it was just a man going,
Andrew Lansley, it's not like...
He more or less won.
But it was good.
He made it good.
Anyway, so I thought it was funny and I played it
and then I got
a message
from some guy
was it
maybe it was on
Twitter or
my website
I don't know where
but he sent me
this message saying
yeah I like the show
except for that
Andrew Lansley
thing
mate
don't go
playing that
kind of pathetic
political
lefty bullshit
ever again
you know and it was very much like
yeah grow up son
get with it
but have you taken that on board though?
yeah I've rethought and I think they should really
bust up the NHS as quick as possible
I mean very much I think this year
very much we have certainly started
as a change of pace and a change of ideal
for us we start going
okay so all these people
on Twitter who say
they don't like certain things
then we will change it
immediately
if you don't like what we do
that's fine
just tell us the bits
that are rubbish
and we will change them
immediately for you
we just constantly influx
whatever tweet we get in
depending on what day it is
we'll just change it immediately
that would be a thing
that would be a show
in itself
that someone could do
is be commanded
by their critics online
and adjust their set accordingly and see what you ended up with.
Then it would become too knowing, wouldn't it?
So you could do that secretly throughout the fringe,
and at the end of the fringe, you could say what you actually did.
I mean, I guess there are some people who do do that.
I mean, I would say if you're engaged in that way with online discourse,
then you must care about what people
think so it's got to affect you in some way i mean i had a thing i'm only here for four days
uh doing a show very dilettante ish and um it's it's a nice venue the assembly hall quite a big
venue 750 or something like that but my show is all about the video you need to see the screen
yeah um so i said to them early on, don't sell these seats at the peripheries
because they won't have a good sight line to the screen, right?
So I thought we'd establish that.
Saturday night comes around and it's busy and they sell all the seats.
So I go on and do my show and, you know, your brain's not in that zone.
I'm just thinking I'm trying to do my best.
I feel like it was a good show, you know, got back home.
I actually did the pat on the back gesture when I got into my room.
Don't know if you ever do that.
No, never.
Job, you should start.
I mean, I reserve it.
We've never had any need to.
Right.
I mean, the pat on the back gesture I do so seldom.
It's like maybe once a year if I'm lucky.
But I thought that was good, man.
You know, it was good.
Well done. And then I thought that was good, man. You know, it was good. Well done.
And then I had my sandwich ready to go.
I was excited about my midnight sandwich.
I thought, you know what?
I'm just going to check Twitter because this is one of those times where I'm pretty confident
there's going to be some pretty nice tweets on there that I can make myself feel good about.
Oh, I wish I had a TARDIS to come and stop you.
So I go on there and it's just a screed of anger from people saying mate we couldn't see
we were sat at the sides it's a disgrace you ripped us off what's that all about uh you know
but technical tweets are always weird ones yeah because you're like i've had it at gigs i've had
it like literally like solo stand-up gigs yeah standing on the stage with someone saying mate
we can't hear you we can't hear you. We can't hear you.
Sort it out.
Yeah.
It's like, how?
I don't know what to do.
So you're the performer.
You can't.
I know.
You're sort of at the mercy of your team there, really.
And so in a way, you feel a bit defensive.
And you're like, well, that wasn't my fucking fault.
I said to them, don't sell those seats.
On the other hand, you feel like they've got a legitimate beef.
So I felt obliged to kind of respond to as many of them as I could and say,
listen, I'm sorry.
It won't happen again.
I'm going to make sure that they don't sell those seats.
But I'll offer you comps for other shows or whatever.
But it was like it went on that night and then the next morning they were still coming in.
It was just like a half a day's worth of admin I was doing.
So what you found out was
so you went on Twitter
thinking I'm going to get
a load of adulation
and all you got is shit.
So even the people
that could see
didn't even bother
saying anything about it.
It was just the people
that couldn't see.
This is the thing.
Actually,
if I counted up
the critical tweets,
there was only a handful, right?
They're the ones
you're seeing, aren't they?
But they're the ones
that colour your entire
perception of how that gig went
we would
we would change our show
based on our tweets
but it's very difficult
to work out
how to not be shit
yeah
it's a very general
sort of tweet
I mean
I say we're doing it
this year
we're not doing it
this year
we did it
we tried it for one day
but we just got sick
of fucking ourselves
yeah
first of all
you have to go to the place then you have to fuck yourself yeah you have to go
to the place
then you have to
fuck yourself
yeah
we have to go
fuck ourselves
you always have to
go fuck yourself
don't you
yeah
stay fucked
hey
don't fuck yourself
in front of me
that's just
grotesque
I told you to
go fuck yourself
I want to know
it's happening
but I do not
want to see it
do it around the corner
send me a picture
or whatever
I don't want to see it happening happening but I do not want to see it do it around the corner send me a picture or whatever I don't want to see it
happening right here
Jesus
so you've only been up
for how many days
you're done now aren't you
when we do this
tonight is the last one
four nights
in and out
I mean the thing is
it was a bit of a last minute deal
because
you know I don't plan
I haven't done a
sort of proper run
in Edinburgh
well I did
I did some bug shows
in 2011 I didn't think of that as my own show because i'm showing other people's videos mainly
but um 2005 was the last time i was here with a with a sort of proper show that i created myself
and even though this show i mean is mainly it's mainly like the kind of stuff that i do at bug
in fact most of the stuff i've worked up at Bug shows.
But I felt like I had to give it a different name because it isn't Bug.
We're not showing like other people's videos
in their entirety.
But even that, you know,
there was one guy who's like,
well, I came to see Bug in Manchester recently
and there's like a whole load of the same stuff in there.
And I did say on my website,
well, I've been working up this stuff at Bug shows
because that's my regular live gig, you know.
People get angry about that sort of thing.
Well, of course.
I mean, I can understand.
You know, the guy said,
well, this is just the same show with a different name.
And I was like, well, I did explain it all on my website.
But still, fair enough if you didn't go to my website.
And I'm sorry.
I'll never do it again.
I'm going to be a gardener from now on.
What would they do if you quit on the basis of that tweet?
Of that one.
If you could turn that into...
I've often thought that, you know.
I've often thought that.
Right, right.
If someone really pisses you off.
Because you've said that, I'm now going to retire
and I'm going to print that as the thing that tipped me over the edge.
They'd be made up.
I always have little fantasies like that sometimes,
where if somebody who's part of your fan base,
not somebody who's just seen it by chance and slagged it off, but if someone who's part of your fan base has someone who's just seen it by chance and slagged it off
but if someone
who's part of your fan base
has said something
that's annoyed you so much
that you go
I think we've had it
with the podcast certainly
like even things like
what we were discussing
the other day
about people saying
where can I get your podcast
that isn't iTunes
and it's like
it's on iTunes
yeah yeah yeah
that's what
we do it for nothing
you get it for nothing
it's on iTunes
that's where you buy it from same as you buy Asda's own... We do it for nothing. You get it for nothing. It's on iTunes. That's where you buy it from.
Same as you buy
Asda's own brand
at Asda.
Yeah, but can I get it in Tesco?
No.
No.
You just can't.
But also,
you can get Alpacas
in other places as well.
People feel...
It's entitlement.
It's entitlement, isn't it?
Yeah.
It's exciting, I suppose,
to have this forum
where they can criticise
and where they can have
direct contact with people they want to talk about. And the, yeah, it feels like they, it's too lame,
almost, to say something complimentary sometimes, you know, and they feel as if that would make them
somehow weak, I don't know, and they want to just be critical. Often, you know, often they have a
legitimate beef, I suppose,
but still it's hard.
It's like in the olden days,
if they had something that they wanted to say that badly,
then they would have waited for you after the show
and said it to you then maybe.
I don't know why.
I mean, I would really obviously prefer that people did that.
I would rather people,
if they were pissed off after the show
and they couldn't get their money back
for whatever reason from the venue,
which is the case with someone
who couldn't see the other day.
You know, I'm with them.
If I couldn't see a show
and the venue refused to give me my money back,
I'd be pissed off too.
But I feel like I would wait
and I would say,
listen, I don't know if you know,
but there's a problem
with how this show is being sold.
That shouldn't be a complaint to the venue.
That shouldn't be a complaint to you.. That shouldn't be a complaint to you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If the quality of the show is shit,
they can complain to you.
Yeah, yes.
But if it's a technical aspect of the show,
then that surely for me
would be a complaint to the venue.
I had this at Latitude a few weeks ago
where I was emceeing the comedy tent
and Trevor Noah was supposed to be on
and he was ill so he couldn't do it.
So I had to say,
Trevor Noah's ill so he can't do it. And then people to say, Trevor Noah's ill so he can't do it.
And then people started shouting at me
as if I'd poisoned his food or something.
One woman stood up and went,
I've come all the way from South Africa
to see Trevor Noah. And Trevor Noah
is South African, so the end of it,
we should have stayed there. That is where
he lives.
I promise you he'll be back there in a bit.
Exactly, but they see the first face
they can
that they can pin it on
you're the guilty guy
yeah
but I guess
well okay
so let's be fair then
so I guess that
if I ever complained
in a shop
which I very rarely do
but if
you know
you're smiling
like you do do it
quite a lot
in that situation
what I do do
or on the phone
if I'm on the phone
to someone
bad customer service
fucking does my nut
and it really does
really bothers me
what's your biggest
regular beef
people sound like
they're not arsed
and that happens a lot
I'm also waiting
for a long time
in multinational companies
so rigging Sky up
about my internet
right
orange
orange is dreadful
orange you know
there's no excuse yeah you make
billions yeah billions you could have if you have like five extra stuff that'll help yeah um but
yeah you know you get into that sort of mood but i think i always start off a flare up and then i
go i know it's not your fault i know that you're getting the brunt of this because you're the voice
on the phone i'm aware that this issue isn't down to you
and I always make a point
of that
I do always make a point
of that
before going completely
yeah yeah
but could you please
say find the person
who's in charge of it
please
and write this down
write this down
you're a fucking idiot
you don't deserve
to be living on the planet
I hope you get
a serious illness
are you writing it all down
it's not you
it's not you
it's your dad
it's your dad
right okay you've never said I hope you get a serious illness I don't writing it all down? It's not you. It's not you. It's your dad. It's your dad.
Right, okay.
You've never said I hope you get a serious illness.
I don't think I have
but I've thought it.
I've definitely thought it.
I have, you know.
But you seem like
you're quite a sort of
placid man though.
No, no, man.
I've had a lot of those
on the phone
and I've said exactly that.
I've had...
The serious illness thing.
Well, no, no.
Not the serious illness thing.
What did you say you had?
I've had ones where I'm like,
listen, stop talking to me
like a fucking robot.
I don't say fucking
because I don't want to
give them any rope.
Yeah, can't swear.
So I'm like, listen,
don't talk to me like a robot.
Don't read off the spiel.
I'm a human being.
I'm on the other end
of this phone.
If this is not something
you can deal with yourself,
then let me talk to a manager.
And then you get more
of the robot spiel and stuff.
And it's maddening.
And I end up screaming like a nut bar, you know more of the robot spiel and stuff and it's maddening and I end up
screaming like a nut bar
you know
have you ever used your name
have you ever used your
your
you're not a celebrity
but have you ever used
the fact that you're
a known person
yeah that would really
cut a lot of
no but have you then
have you
I don't think
unless I was on the phone
to some nerds
that run
a DVD shop
I don't think it would uh do me too many do you
not use like the amount of twitter followers or anything like that no no when i was on the radio
with joe uh sometimes on on six music you know i felt like if you're part of the bbc you feel like
you're part of this powerful yeah you know if you go to the states for example they're in awe of the
bbc a lot some people are so okay i think maybe once or twice, I sort of said,
listen, I'm doing a show for the BBC about this kind of thing.
I'm going to include you in our show.
That's going to be damaging for your business, your so-called business.
Thanks very much.
It's done me
no good
at all
they're like yeah
whatever
good luck with that
I did it with Tesco
when we did
because I had a beef
with Tesco
and I'm technically
barred from Tesco
but I won't go in there
anyway
but I said
I was wearing a beanie hat
with a hood up
and they threw me out
because you looked
like a bomb guy
I refused to take it out
a bomb guy
yeah I was a bomb guy.
And so we had this letter writing campaign.
It wasn't orchestrated as such.
It just came about.
I wrote to them about it.
And then as these letters went on,
we were reading them out on the podcast.
And their responses,
because their responses were so fucked.
They were so on dodgy ground.
Like they were saying,
well, there's no rule.
There's no actual rule.
It's down to the discretion of the staff.
And then I came back with,
well, so if somebody came in in a hijab, because they were and then i came back with well so somebody came in in a hijab because they said about being the
head being covered yeah if they came in a hijab then what would happen then and i remember i
never put it in brackets i appreciate there is no correct answer to this question yes i apologize
in advance for my uh rhetorical escalation of the confrontation yeah totally
so they were
mischievous letters
anyway
that we read
out on the podcast
but I definitely
dropped in
the podcast
as those letters
went on
and said
well this is a very
popular part
of our podcast
and you can use it
in another way as well
we had to do some
printing across the
roads there
and I went in
first and got the
price and everything
got a discount
just because he was
a nice bloke
and then Ray went
and went
we do a podcast
number one in the chart
so I don't know
if you want to do
any more discount
than that
£5
£5
nice
but I didn't do it
like that
I don't know
if you listen
to the podcast
I didn't do it at all
I just said
hey we've already
spent £14,000
in the Cedarborough
so we're trying
to cut corners
wherever we can
if you could take any more discount off that then we can give spent 14 grand in the Cedarborough, so we're trying to cut corners wherever we can. If you could
take any more discount off that, then we can give you
a shout on the podcast. It's number one at the moment,
so that'd be really helpful. Yeah. And then he went,
okay, I went, I'll have a think about it, mate. I said, no, don't say no,
I'll have a think about it. And then he went into the back room,
and then he came back and went, I'm not going to charge you
for laminating.
He laminated. Notice how we've not mentioned
the name of the company. Yeah, we've not done it.
I'll give him a mention. I didn't think
that £5 warranted...
I will give you some letters.
G, it begins with G.
It begins with a G. Grundig's.
Oh, you got it in one.
Grundig's printers.
For all your printing needs.
I've not mentioned it
because I can't remember. What was it called?
Greenprint. Greenprint. What street is it on? St was it called what was it called Greenprint Greenprint
what street is it on
it's in Lennon Street
go to Greenprint
for free laminating
for any job
right
if you put him in a corner
he'll laminate stuff for free
guaranteed
free laminating
he will laminate
people
laminate your face
now we're going back
and say that
he's done a plug as well
yeah
we'll go right
I don't know who
no I don't know
books
no
alright Peacock and Gamble Peacock and Gamble and say that he's done a plug as well. Yeah. We'll go, right, so I don't know who, no, I don't know books. No, all right.
Pick, hook and gamble.
Pick, hook and gamble.
I'm always slightly in awe of you.
Yeah, quite right.
Why?
Because I'm so good looking.
Well, there's an element of that.
There's an element also of,
I know how busy I am.
Right?
So I know how busy I am at the moment.
And as he said,
so doing Edinburgh, doing extra shows, doing the podcast. I know how busy I am at the moment. And as he said, so doing Edinburgh,
doing extra shows,
doing the podcast.
It's a lot.
It fills the day.
Yeah.
You've got Arthur Smith
coming in soon, right?
We have in a bit,
so come on,
let's hurry this up.
But,
it's not,
it's not on a par
to what you do.
Like when you,
the stuff you make
is such high production values
and such,
you've not knocked it out
in five minutes.
No.
But I don't know what,
why are you doing it? Yeah, that's a good question. That's a good question to and such. You've not knocked it out in five minutes. No. But I don't know what, why are you doing it?
Yeah, that's a good question.
That's a good question to ask someone.
We go, you know all that stuff you do?
Yeah. Why is that?
No, no, I actually mean, you know how I mean that.
Why?
Yeah, well, I mean, because I suppose I spend as much time on those little video bits and
pieces as you guys do working up your live material.
You know, that's not my, my forte is not being a kind of live stand-up comedy guy.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
So basically, I mean, I guess in a way
I'm like a presenter really for my videos, you know.
Yeah.
And I feel like as I go along,
I'm getting better at doing the live stuff.
But still, you know, I go and see a proper...
I went to see Richard Herring the other night
and you see a proper stand-up comedian
and you just think... He's not a proper I went to see Richard Herring the other night and you see a proper stand up comedian and you just think
he's not a proper stand up comedian
he's Richard Herring
what is he doing
I saw it on Open Spot
I think he's doing
a free fringe show
what was the other one
three minutes
put my foot right
in like a big warp
what is his
I mean speak to him about it
he's the best person
to speak about it
because we don't rise to it
what's his problem with you
that's the beauty of it I don't know I mean. What's his problem with you? That's the beauty of it.
I don't know.
I mean,
well, let's speculate now
what might be the problem.
Yeah.
I mean,
he's had a TV show.
Podcast Wars is this.
Well,
I mean,
we started the podcast
long before he did a podcast.
I don't know what his beef is with that.
He got very upset
we were number one,
but surely,
has he been number one yet?
I don't know why
he's had all that success
in the 90s
podcast guys
come on
let's hug
we agree
it should be fine
exactly it should be
and I'm sure
that Richard has been
number one this fringe
it must have happened
probably in the middle
of the night
or something
but it must have happened
so Richard we have both
been number one
so there's no need
to tweet this
there's room for everyone
what did he tweet you
oh he tweets us
out of the blue
you can see
it's almost like
he's a drunk and I know that he's can see it's almost like he's a drunk
and I know
that he's not
but it's almost like
he's been drinking
through the night
it's got to 8am
and he's gone
right
before I go to bed
I'm going to say
something
and then he
what was it
he said the other
morning
out of the blue
we got
oh good idea
doing a podcast
in Edinburgh
talking to famous
people
great idea guys
where did you
get that from
oh okay
and he tweeted
about Parkinson
we have a pretend rivalry we are friends to famous people. Great idea, guys. Where'd you get that from? Oh, okay. And he tweeted back, Parkinson.
It's a,
we have a pretend rivalry.
We are friends.
Oh, good.
I hope so.
I don't think there's any need.
I mean,
because, you know,
everyone can appreciate that stuff equally.
There's an appetite
for all kinds of good stuff.
As long as it's good,
people are not fussed.
The more the merrier,
you know what I mean?
He knows that he can get us on,
because a lot of,
like, broadsheets and things
when they're doing podcasts
say that he did it
and then here's some other ones and then they'll say
us. And we're always like
no, we did it,
we did it. Who cares about the model
in me? You know, Mark Maron, do you listen to his
podcast? He's been doing that for a long time.
Getting people
in and talking to them is not like
a...
They didn't, but I mean I think what we're all trying to them is not like a, yeah. No one invented that.
Yeah, they didn't.
But I mean, I think what we're all trying to say is this one's better.
This one's better than yours, Herring.
So bring it on, Mr. Number Three.
Well, the whole lot, the nice thing about it is that it's all, you know, you invest in the people you like, don't you?
So if you, yeah, the whole experience of listening to those things is transformed by whoever's hosting
you know
Richard's got his very
particular thing
that he does
you guys have got yours
he has got a particular thing
hasn't he
no we have
it's a really fun thing
you know
so you listen to
Mark Maron's one right
yes
yeah I do yeah
what the fuck
I target it
I target the ones
I want to listen to
what the fuck buddies
what the fuck nicks
what the fuck
what the fucking nears
he's such an angry the anger's calming down now he's sort of he, buddies? What the fuck, nicks? What the fuck, what the fucking nears?
But the anger's calming down now.
He's less angry at the moment.
Well, that happens when you get older, isn't it?
But he's very candid.
I like the fact, because he's not all the time,
to my taste, totally likeable.
So there's stuff that he says where you're just thinking,
ugh.
But he's very honest about it.
Did you listen to the James Franco one that he did?
I don't know.
Yeah.
The, the slightly,
the,
the live one.
Yeah.
The South by Southwest.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's funny.
I recommend that if you haven't heard it,
listeners,
there are a few sort of awkward chats.
Yeah.
But then,
and then the following week,
because he,
he was,
um,
he got bad vibes off James Franco,
the actor on stage.
And he decided that James Franco was being too snooty,
and then at a certain point he made a crack about it.
James Franco said something like,
well, I don't take myself so seriously anymore,
and Martin Maron said, oh, anymore? Right.
It implied that he basically did.
And then things got very frosty, and the interview suddenly ended.
He sort of just wrapped it up.
He's like, well, okay, that's it.
Thanks, James Franco. Thanks to my my guest that's it for today and then people got in touch with mark
maron and said um you know you uh you're a bit uh standoffish with him yeah a bit patronizing
why'd you cut him off and uh and and so he goes into a whole thing about how he felt like he was
getting bad vibes from j Franco I thought it was
really interesting
because he
because it sounds
like he was
oversensitive
yeah definitely
about
I don't think
yeah it's just
James Franco
whatever
he's just a famous guy
and Mark Maron
whatever had his
feathers ruffled
by him
I guess
is it on the element
of what you bring
to the table
absolutely
I remember
to give a far
more widely known thing when who was it Meg Ryan was on Parkinson of it, what you bring to the table yourself. I remember to give a far more
widely known thing, when
Meg Ryan was on Parkinson's
and they had that weird interview
and I'm sure it'll be on YouTube.
He was having an affair with Russell Crowe at that time
wasn't she? I think maybe
and maybe it just banged her really hard backstage
I'm not saying that did happen
that could have happened
I can imagine a world where that did happen
yeah
I can imagine
a situation where
Russell Crowe
banged Meg Ryan really hard
and then pushed her out
onto Parkinson's
but there was a whole big thing
about oh she was
you know
it was in the press
and everything
it was all going
oh she was so standoffish
and she was so rude
and all that
but if you watch that interview
he's no better
in that
Parkinson's quite
he's pretty standoffish
he goes in like that
like it is quite a...
Yeah, you bring your own baggage to the table, exactly.
And I think there was an element to that where, again, I'm speculating purely,
but where Parkinson was like, well, do you not know who I am?
Let alone, you know, I'm a big star over here.
I'm the chat show king.
Yes, exactly.
And the fact that she didn't, it was almost like that had niggled him.
And then it was going both ways.
But all that was reported in the press was and then it was going both ways but all that
was reported in the press was that meg ryan was acting up yeah and and it wasn't as simple as that
yeah so i wonder with maron whether he's just sat there and decided there's bad vibes yeah well
he's obviously not no absolutely but i think that's true but he's quite candid about the fact
that his ego gets the better of him yeah i like that though i like those kind of podcasts and
i like that crackle of of energies between podcasts and uh i like that crackle of
of energies between the interview i like to know as much about the interviewer as the yeah as the
host you know not that i i you know there's time as there's room as well for other ones where the
interview is very straight and the interviewer keeps um super objective and everything but
yeah i like the ones where you're getting to know a bit about both of them really
so you were just saying that you're getting to know a bit about both of them, really. Pickle can gamble, pickle can gamble.
So you were just saying that
you like to know about the interiors.
Now, this is a brilliant opportunity
for you, because you're here now
in our flat. Yeah, it's amazing,
by the way. Thank you.
That doesn't sound like you've fully bought into it.
It's like an empty...
It's like a weird place
that some drug dealers have bust into
excuse us
it's totally empty
it's like an assassin's house
there's a little playstation
oh we'll nip to a charity shop and free the load of Star Wars figures
all over the place
do you know what that's why I didn't
I was about to say I didn't like Adam and Joe and that's not true
that's why I never took to Adam and Joe
I never watched it religiously
because of the Star Wars thing.
Because that was my life.
Right.
Because I was a big Star Wars collector
and I've always been kind of selfish
with my obsessions.
Yeah.
And I was like,
I'm not having that.
I don't know.
No, I have got Star Wars figures at home
and I'm not having that.
And it wasn't like,
which I thought about.
I was like,
that's my secret thing.
That is my collection.
I can totally relate to that feeling.
Isn't that a weird thing though?
No, not a weird thing at all.
Sometimes you don't like to share those things that you feel are very personal with you.
Yeah.
And even though someone might be doing it in a spirit of celebration and kind of nerdy
connectiveness, you just think, oh, fuck off.
You know what I mean?
I didn't think fuck off.
Yeah, you did.
I thought, oh, be quiet a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I completely relate to that, you know,
and there's a lot of times when you meet,
I mean, I'm sure you guys have it,
and I think a lot of people have it,
where you sort of assume that someone would be into something.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I had this one, I interviewed Baby Bird.
Do you remember Baby Bird?
Yeah, yeah.
From Sheffield, great.
He's still doing lots of good stuff.
You're gorgeous.
Yeah, exactly.
That was his big hit.
And it wasn't even about being gorgeous.
People had it at their weddings weddings but it meant something else
that's right
it was all that porn
wasn't it
but
he started off
doing very
kind of lo-fi
stuff
but evidently
he got quite pissed off
with that tag
you know
and we interviewed him
me and Joe
it was one of the first things
we ever did actually
for our show
never made it into the show
when we were trying to
cast around for things we might do, we thought,
well, we'll interview people we like. So we interviewed him and I went along, I was one
of the first sort of artists that I knew about that I'd actually met and it was like, wow,
this is so exciting. I was really nervous and I took in some quite weird, nerdy, homemade music
that I'd found in the States and stuff
and thought that he might enjoy and I'd play it to him.
And I said, oh man, listen to this.
Oh, you know, it was a guy called Shuby Taylor.
Right.
And it was sort of one of these things you get on compilations of found music,
weird music, sort of ironically appropriated outsider music or whatever.
And this guy Shuby Taylor was a postal worker in the States
who would, at a certain point,
he decided he wanted to be like a scat singer.
Yeah.
And he would do these completely unhinged,
weird bits of scat singing
over kind of strange organ melodies
sort of going,
shoo, shoo, shoo, wah,
shwee, bah,
bubby, bubby, bubby, bubby, bubby, bubby,
kind of freestyling.
We've got a little snatch of it
was at the beginning of our
Adam and Joe theme tune, in fact.
Anyway, I played some of this
to Baby Bird
and he was just appalled.
And he just said,
no, no, I hate that.
I hate that.
No, no, no.
That's exactly the kind of thing I hate.
That's all sort of wacky bullshit.
No, no.
Why?
And I was like,
but man,
that's what I get from your stuff.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He's like, well, no, that's not what I want you to get from your stuff you know what I mean and he's like
well no
that's not what I want
you to get from my stuff
at all
isn't that brilliant
self confidence though
because I could never
do that
if someone said
oh I've found this
even if I despised it
I'd be like
oh yeah cool
he was nice about it
but it was awkward
and I did feel like
oh shit
this is not going well
I mean
the encounter concluded cordially,
but he was very straight.
He was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Maybe he was like, oh, it's either a little bit hungry.
He should have like mashed up a worm.
No, I think he had that same feeling.
Mash a worm up in your mouth.
And then just go above him and he'll open his mouth
to spit it down into his mouth.
He'll be all right.
That's right.
But no, I think he had that same thing that you're talking about.
Sometimes it's like it's too much on your patch,
you know what I mean? Yeah, totally. And you just don't
chime with it. It takes me a while
sometimes. Like, you know, bad
lip reading on YouTube.
Yeah. That guy who like
re-dubs all kinds
of videos, sporting events or whatever, and
brilliantly kind of adds a whole new
bit of
soundtrack to them. But i'd done similar things
myself in the past you know and i felt like oh you know this guy's totally on my patch yeah it's
not my patch loads of people do it obviously but it it stopped me fully enjoying it for a while
yeah even though i could appreciate that it was brilliant i mean the main problem for me was that
he'd done it better than i ever did okay and that he was getting like millions and millions of views and people talking about, oh, this guy's a genius. You
should see this guy. I was like, yeah, I don't need to see that guy. I've been doing that
kind of stuff for quite a while. Thanks very much. Yeah, all right. It wasn't as good as
him. And millions of people haven't watched it, but fuck off. But you know, you get beyond
that phase. And then now it's like I've relaxed about it a bit and I can see it
for the brilliance
that it is
I think that's what
stops a lot of comics
watching
the comics
yeah
exactly
because you can't
get out of your own head
in what you're doing
so you can't really
appreciate someone
doing something similar
and when it comes
to stand up
most of it
is just people
telling stories
and making jokes
so it's all
under the same umbrella
and you can't get out from under that
to really appreciate it.
Which is why I think amongst stand-up comics,
it's often the slightly more outside-of-the-box stuff
or some of the stranger stuff that is most appreciated.
So the stuff that will get passed around.
Yeah, the general consensus is they don't see it.
The general public don't see it.
But comics are like,
no, you should see
that person performing
to those people.
Because you like to feel like,
oh, well,
that's something
I couldn't have done,
so that must be good.
So that's allowed to be
as fine as I couldn't think of.
But if you think like,
oh, well,
I could have done that,
then that's shit.
The more rubbish comics,
the better.
The more comics
not learning it right,
the better.
You caught a real moment
with Star Wars I think.
As a big Star Wars fan
you caught
I sold my Star Wars collection
recently.
Did you?
How much did you get?
My vintage Star Wars collection.
Was it worth it
to sell it off?
£400.
That's not worth it.
It's dreadful.
You should have kept it guy.
Why did you feel
he had to sell it?
I'd moved to
Space.
He did it because of space.
Space.
He wanted to go to space. I'd moved through £300 did it because of space he wanted to go to space
I'd moved through
three houses
£400 is not enough
no it's not
it's a start though
it's a start though
isn't it
yeah for the
space programme
it's got it out
the Peacock and Gamble
space programme
that's a good idea
it just occurred to me
that I no longer
cared about those toys
that I'd knocked them
out of boxes
for a long long time
that my taste had shifted not from Star Wars but my taste had shifted in terms of that I no longer cared about those toys. Yeah. That I'd knocked them out of boxes for a long, long time.
That my taste had shifted,
not from Star Wars,
but my taste had shifted in terms of,
I go very big ticket
now with stuff.
Sure.
And by expense,
I'm a bit obsessed
with hot toys at the moment.
What a hot toy?
Oh, you mean like
fashionable toys,
not toys that are actually warm?
No, it's called hot toys.
Are they?
What's that?
Right, before we go right,
come in my bedroom
and look at your hot toys.
I will show you what I bought.
I don't know if I want to do I bought I'll show you what I bought
there's no problem with that
it's just a couple of
bearded men
just popping into the room
to look at a Captain America figure
don't ruin the surprise
but anyway
they're high end figures
sure
and they have a high end price tag
excuse me
but
yeah you should know about all that mate
and like Sideshow
I've got very into their
big premium format figures
sure why wouldn't you
so
so so I've got rid
of all my old
Muppets
obsessed with
the Muppets
oh yeah
but not the
Disney Muppets
right
Jim Henson
Muppets
of course
no Disney Muppets
thank you
very very poor
merchandise
right
but you caught a
moment with Star Wars
yes well it was
sort of pre-internet
properly
I mean the internet obviously existed at that point.
We're talking 97 here.
But there was a real dearth of Star Wars merchandise.
You couldn't get stuff at that time.
Right, okay.
It was really weird.
So you used the vintage toys.
Yeah, that's right.
I think some of the new ones sneaked in.
They did.
But, I mean, the reason we used the vintage toys was because we thought it would be less of a legal issue.
Right.
reason we used the vintage toys was because we thought it would be less of a legal issue right and channel four were quite worried about uh not having cleared these bits of copyright merchandise
especially with a litigious um person like george lucas i mean now obviously the the levy is broken
and there's not much that you can do about people yeah reappropriating star wars any way they wish
but back then it was all like oh shit they're very litigious and we haven't really
got permission
to use these figures
so let's use the ones
that are no longer available
i.e. the original
Kenner ones
from the 70s
or Palitoy
take your pick
got two names
right
Kenner or Palitoy
whichever company it is
yeah
I think it was
Kenner in the US
wasn't it
yeah
and Palitoy
yeah
and my collection
came from holidays
to California
where my uncle lived
so that would be the amazing
conclusion of each holiday was a trip
to the mall
and get a few bits of Star Wars
knick knacks
so yeah we thought that if we used those original
toys that were now no longer available
then it wouldn't be a threat to whoever was
producing the new ones
Hasbro and webro, right.
And we also put them in every...
We didn't put them in every show because
we thought if we put them in every other show, then
maybe that'll make us less
visible as a...
This was all the geniuses in the law department
at Chattanooga. George Lucas sleeps one week
on every show. He won't get through all
the episodes. Exactly. He's very
unlikely to see them all but in the end
a guy called
Rick McCallum
who produced
the sequels
saw some of them
and said that
he'd showed them
to George
and that George
got a chuckle
out of them
but I mean
again
that must have been
yeah that was before
just the world
became one big
Star Wars parody
well one thing happened because obviously thes, Star Wars was huge.
Obviously, it was enormous.
And then around about 1984, after the third film had come out,
after Jedi had come out,
the most precious figures you can buy were the last lot of figures that came out.
It's called the Last 17.
The Last 17 figures that came out.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're the rarest figures because none of them
sold right and they were all lots of them were trashed lots of you know to people that had them
yeah were the one they were the ones and they're the ones that are still hunted for now you can
get them but you pay big money for them but then star wars went away it actually went away yeah
and around when was when did element joe start i'm gonna get around sort of 92, 93. No, 96, I think.
Okay, okay. 97. So at that
time, Star Wars had had a resurgence,
but it was predominantly in books
and collecting trading
cards and things like that. But there were no physical
figures of things, and it was
hard to get the old ones. So there was a real desire.
Right. There was a company called
Screaming that made some models. They were
beautiful models. They made these models that you put together yourself and painted them yourself. Oh, yeah, I remember those some models they were beautiful models they made these models
that you put together yourself
and painted them yourself
oh yeah I remember this
so they were the first things
that sort of started emerging again
and there was a real desire
for Star Wars merchandise
and that
it was around them
that you started doing that
which I would imagine
probably fuelled it
on some level
there were people going
I want all my figures again
right
I want to get all my figures back again
I forgot
my dad threw them away
do you know what I mean
and then obviously
Hasbro relaunched the line
and now it's just
all completely
I think you should be
calling Hasbro
because it seems like
you made everyone
like Star Wars again
that's true
it's probably down to me
isn't it
not Joe
just you
well it was me
that kept the figures
actually it was my mum
that kept the figures
really
yeah
and she came over with them one afternoon and said,
Hey, you remember these?
Found these in the attic.
Yeah, they're in the fucking way.
And, yeah, and it was actually Joe's idea that we should do little dramatisations with him.
And my original thought was that it would be good,
because I went to art school, right?
Joe went to film school.
So I'm always thinking of the art school idea i.e the not funny idea um my not funny idea was that
we should do sort of uh gritty domestic um little scenes so like like like a kind of uh uh ken loach
film but with star wars figures you know what I mean like a kitchen sink drama kitchen sink drama
what year was that
96
right
I used to be in a sketch group
called Big and Daft
years ago
it was me and Rob Rouse
and a guy called John Williams
we were a 3D sketch team
and one of the first sketches
we stopped doing sketches
we ended up just doing it
like a sort of living sitcom
we played ourselves
but one of the first sketches
we ever wrote
was
At Home With The Vaders
oh right
which I had an old vintage
darth vader helmet which i also sold recently um but and it was so the front bit actually came off
and the top helmet was there and it was me coming home as darth vader and my wife just going how was
your day like oh it's acting up again yeah but you know that new space station we've done
depends yes oh yeah do you know how much we've spent on that? £13 billion.
What's he done?
Only blown it up.
I can't paraphrase it.
But it was all stuff like that.
Which now would be really quite a hack to do that now.
I would say, yeah.
I don't think you'd get too far with that now.
I mean, it's still good stuff, obviously.
That's an oversubscribed market now.
Yeah, but at the time, me and you definitely captured the design of my hands.
I dare say that anyone with a sense of humour was thinking along those lines at that time.
But pre-internet, you know, you could very happily have these ideas and exist in your own little bubble and think,
yeah, I can work with some good stuff.
But now, yeah, Jesus, everyone.
That's the problem
with the internet now,
isn't it?
You find out if you're shit
straight away.
Yeah,
exactly.
Well,
I guess,
I mean,
I suppose,
I feel like it's still
quite a democratic medium,
you know,
the gold generally surfaces
and...
Never been on it.
There's a lot of nude women
on there,
man,
it's amazing.
What? It's been nice making with you. New lot of nude women on there man it's amazing what?
it's been nice
speaking with you
nude guys
nude women
nude animals
it's all there
it's massive
the internet
you see a lot of
nude animals
just roaming the
streets sometimes
I know
I'm constantly
turned on
there's more nude
animals I think
than there are
clothed animals
although I saw a
dog wearing shoes
the other day
did you?
genuinely true
in red car what kind of shoes? they were knitted shoes not Doc Martens no no no Loved animals. It's true. Although I saw a dog wearing shoes the other day. Did you? Did you? Genuinely true. In Redcar.
What kind of shoes?
The other week.
They were knitted shoes.
Not Doc Martens.
No, no, no.
Doc Martens.
Doc Martens.
Yeah.
Pow.
But with no element of irony, a lady was walking her dog with knitted shoes.
And I thought, that's just ridiculous.
That's mental.
And then one of them dropped off the back foot and I didn't tell her.
Yeah.
Oh.
Just carried on walking.
Did you leave it on a railing?
The shoe was just left there.
No, I didn't.
I should have just kept it, shouldn't I?
No, I said, did you leave it on a railing?
I should have just kept it.
You should have given it back.
I should have kept it.
Say that again.
What would you have done?
I'm not running after it.
Yeah, I've got a,
I don't know if you've noticed,
but I've got a dog shoe on the end of my,
on the end of my Johnson.
Yeah.
What do you think of that?
I couldn't, in all good faith,
run after a woman saying,
excuse me, your dog's shoe has fallen off.
Yes, you could, in all good faith.
I wouldn't.
She would have been fine with it.
She'd put the shoes on the dog.
What would you have done?
What would you have done in that situation?
I think I would have returned the dog shoe.
Why are you not giving her the dog shoe back? Why am I selling the wrong deer? You should have returned the dog shoe. Why are you not giving her the dog shoe back?
Why am I selling the wrong deer?
You should have returned the dog shoe.
I'm interested in your impulses here.
There we go then.
Find out more about your interview.
Exactly.
Were you so contemptuous of the fact
that someone would put shoes on their dog
that you just thought,
she doesn't deserve a dog shoe back?
In the first instance,
I found it hilarious that she'd done it.
That was the first instance. I it hilarious that she'd done it that was the first instance
I'll take you through
my process
I'm not saying
that you're wrong
to think that
you might be right
I mean animal rights
activists might think
that it is
slightly confrontational
demeaning
sorry bad vibes
off Adam
I'm getting bad vibes
off Adam
so there you go
that was Adam Buxton
there we go Adam Buxton Adam Buxton there we go
Adam Buxton
Adam Buxton
that was nice wasn't it
it was nice to hear that
enjoyed his company
yeah
we actually spoke a little bit
longer than that
because we spoke about
me having some fish that died
yeah
which I didn't keep
any into you
but we had
I was telling that
I bought six fish
that's true
yeah
I bought a tank as well
but I got a tank as a present
and then I bought
so then I had to buy it.
And actually somebody
buying you a fish tank
and no fish.
Yeah.
What a weird present
that is.
Yeah.
It's like someone
buying you a house
and no family.
Exactly.
What?
So I got myself six
fish.
Yeah.
It's a tropical tank.
Yeah.
And three of them
have died.
Really?
Yeah.
Like in the last few
weeks.
Yeah.
A, B and C they were
called.
Yeah.
A died first then C
then B.
Yeah. They were even awkward in death. called. A died first, then C, then B.
They were even awkward in death.
And they died over a couple of weeks and it really upset me.
But Adam was telling me that he had some fish,
he was telling us that he had some fish
and he decided it was cruel
because his children weren't looking after the fish.
So there was one left,
they'd all died apart from one
and he decided to just stick it in a cup
and put it in a river.
Put it in the river and it was a tropical fish.
It was a tropical fish that he put into cold water.
Yeah. Crucified it. So Adam
if you're listening and you thought oh I got
away with that. Yeah. You didn't leave in that
bit about me murdering a fish. Yeah.
We've done it as an extra. Yeah it's all very well ringing as an extra
and saying lads can you not put that bit in because I think
it's a bit of an explanation. We will always
if people say don't put something in we don't put it in.
We didn't say that we wouldn't tell it.
Yeah. Afterwards did we not
exactly
I would have thought
someone as internet savvy
as you would realise that
anyway that's it for today
do come and see our show
Heartthrobs
9.45pm
Pleasance Courtyard
and 9.45pm
and 00.15pm
at Fridays and Saturdays
on Fridays and Saturdays
Pleasance Courtyard
Pleasance Courtyard
it's selling out
it is selling out it is selling out
it's doing well mate
so you want to get
and I'm telling them
I know I'm reiterating
about tickets
you ain't lying
ain't lying bitch
and get there on time
you stupid twat
yeah there's that as well
also by the way
here's a little secret for you
I don't want to
even though it says
it's sold out
it is sold out
yeah
if you get there
15 minutes before it
yeah
alright
there's a very good chance the
box office will have four extra tickets because it's something that's something they do we don't
know why they do it nobody seems to be able to give us a straight answer on this but they hold
back four tickets until 15 minutes before the performance even if it's sold out on a friday
or saturday or something and you think oh i'd really like to go to. Oh, but it's sold out and it's a last minute decision.
You will probably be able to get a ticket.
Right.
And here's another little secret as well that I'm going to come a bit closer and tell you
this.
Right.
Here's another little secret as well.
If they say, oh no, there's no tickets left.
You say, but I am disabled.
Yeah.
Right.
And if you say that, they hold two seats right out the front yeah
for the disabled
yeah
so say you're disabled
right
they'll go
oh great
we'll get you some of the
disabled tickets out
yeah
and then you get the same
price as the ones
then you get those two tickets
because not many disabled
people come and see us
no
not many
or actually
I tell a lie
a lot do
but they raise the game
when they come to our venues
so they jump up
them stairs
it's excitement isn't it
yeah
I think that's what
Jesus did with his miracles
I don't think he actually
cured people
I think he just got them
excited
yeah and he didn't have
any accessible seats
to his gigs
so they had
they had to
just really really
want to go
took away your crutches
and they did
but no he says
next sentence
he then fell over
fell into their chair
yeah
see you tomorrow real crutches. And they did. But no, the next sentence was they then fell over. Fell into their chair. Yeah.
See you tomorrow.
The Peacock and Gamble Edinburgh podcast
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Today's guest was
Adam Buxton.
And my show is
Colonel Panic.
Adapted from parts of Bug,
which I do regularly,
just so you know.
Or music by Thomas Fun the Ray.
What kind of name is that?
See you tomorrow.