The Personal Finance Podcast - Should You Keep Your Old House As a Rental? (Plus the 403(B) Guide!) Money Q&A
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if the monthly payments fit my budget? We're going to dive into that question. Should you buy a car
based on monthly payments or how should you think about that? Third, if I'm looking to move right
now, should I keep my old house as a rental property? And we're going to go through that question to see
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And so we're going to dive into the 403B
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That's the number one question is,
how does the 403B fit in to the stairway to wealth?
So that's the fourth piece
that we are going to be going through today on Money Q&A.
So if that's something you're into,
let's get into it.
All right, so question number one is,
how can I set up my newborn for financial success?
So the person who asked this question
has a newborn that they just had three months ago
and they want to figure out,
hey, how can I set them up for financial success?
And first of all, it is absolutely amazing that you're even thinking about this.
This is something that if you start early on, your kids have one of the most powerful things of all,
which is time.
And if you start helping your kids early on, you can build a massive amount of wealth.
Now, one of the caveats here is a lot of people will kick back when I talk about investing for your children,
and they'll say things like, well, they'll be entitled when they get to that point.
Well, listen, if you don't want to invest for your children or if you don't want them to know about some of these accounts,
then you don't have to tell them until, you know, either something happens to you.
You can put it in your will.
You can put it in your trust.
But they don't have to know about this if you are worried about work ethic or anything along those lines.
And if you don't want to invest for them, that is your prerogative.
Parenting is a very individual thing.
So if that's something you do not want to do, then that's your prerogative.
But for a lot of people, they are very interested on how they can build wealth for their children.
This is what generational wealth is all about is you have the power to do this,
especially with the time horizon that they have.
Now, we are working on a stairway to wealth for kids and when you have children, how you can actually go through that process.
Depending on how much it's disposable income you have, that stairway to wealth will kind of walk you through step by step.
The order of operations for your kids.
So we are working on that episode should be coming out fairly soon.
So the first thing that you need to be doing is hitting your investment goals first.
If you are not hitting your investment goals, then that is the number one thing you need to be doing.
You do not need to be investing for your kids prior to you hitting your investment goals.
But once you hit those investment goals, maybe it's an HSA.
Roth IRA 4-1K, depending on what your goals are, then you can move on to these next steps.
Now, one thing you can do, even if you're not hitting your investment goals, is making sure that
you are adding your children as an authorized user to your credit card if you are responsible
with credit cards. If you've ever had credit card debt in the past and you are not responsible
with credit cards, I do not want you doing this because you could ruin your children's credit
by doing this. But if you are very responsible with credit cards, I mean, you have to have a
credit score of 720 or above to even consider this. That's my personal.
rule, then you can maybe consider adding your children as an authorized user to their credit card.
And what's going to happen here is they're going to have 18 years of credit history because you
did this. And it's going to allow them to have a 800 credit score by the time they graduate from
high school. So it's a very cool hack that you should consider up front. Now, the next thing that you
can do is you can contribute to a 529 plan. The reason why this comes up early on now is the 529
plan has an amazing rule change that is going to take into effect in December of 2000.
And what that rule change is is that you're going to be able to take a portion of the 529 plan.
And if your kids don't go to college, you can take $35,000 and roll it into a Roth IRA.
So over the course of the lifespan of that 529 plan, you could take up to $35,000 and roll it into a Roth IRA.
It's an amazing new backup plan.
It's going to be in section 126 of the newest bill that came out with the IRS that is going to allow you to do that.
And when you look at this, this is a very powerful thing because now this means, you
that you can save for college and for your children's retirement at the same time. So maxing out that
529 plan where you can have that $35,000 and roll it over is very, very powerful. And if you get to the
point where your kids go to college and you don't maybe need the funds inside of your 529 plan because
you've been listening to the personal finance podcast for the last 18 years and you have a ton of wealth
built up at this point in time, then you can just roll those $35,000 funds into it and then pay the rest
with college or roll it into your next kids 529 plan as well. Now, what type of 529 plan should
you be getting? You need to get a flexible 529 plan. I don't like the state-specific ones. Like,
for example, where I live in Florida, we have something called Florida prepaid. I don't like
Florida prepaid. Why? Because it's not flexible. There's not a lot of flexibility inside of there.
So flexible 529 plans are the way to go. You can get those at Vanguard. You can get those at
Fidelity as well. Those are two great places to look at flexible 529 plans where you can invest
those dollars in really good funds, things like index funds, ETFs. But in addition, you can also take
those funds and you can do different things with them. They have a lot.
more flexibility than would a traditional Florida prepaid or a state-specific 529 plan.
I do not love the state-specific 529 plans.
I'm not familiar with all of them, but I knew a lot of them are very restrictive in what you
can do with the funds.
You don't want to get your money into places where you cannot utilize that money.
You want to make sure that the money is flexible.
So you want to always have options when you're investing your dollar.
So always think through that when you go through the process.
Now, the third thing, after you do these first two is you can do something like a traditional
investment account.
So if you've ever heard the episode, we talk about how to turn your kids into multi-millionaires.
We go through this process of my exact process.
I talked about this on TikTok, and I've talked about it on Instagram as well.
On TikTok, it went completely viral.
I think it had 5 million views within the first two days.
And this is my exact system on how to do it so that you can build generational wealth for your kids.
Now, the thing that you can do here is that you can contribute to a brokerage account.
The example we used was $100 every single month, then every birthday, and then every year-end,
or if you celebrate Christmas or whatever other holiday you celebrate at the end of the year,
you put $250 each time or an additional $500 bonus every time.
And what this does is by the time they turned age 18,
you would have contributed a little over $30,000.
That money would have grown to right around $70,000 to $80,000.
And then you don't have to contribute another dollar into that account.
And here's what's going to happen.
By the time your children turned age 65,
that money would have grown to $7.6 million if you got a 10% rate,
of return. 9, 8% rate of return will be somewhat less, but at the same time, you can have a
multi-million dollar account just by doing this. The reason why I do it in a brokerage account is just
for flexibility. So the brokerage account is in my name, and then I have my children as the beneficiary
inside of that account. It's a really cool way to do this. Now, if your kids already have earned
taxable earned income, then they can contribute to a Roth as well, up to whatever their earned
income is. So this is a custodial Roth IRA. We will have an entire episode on this, and we will dive
deep into this, but a custodial Roth IRA would be next if they have earned income.
This would actually go before the brokerage account if they have earned income now, but if they
don't have earned income, then you can just do it in the brokerage account because you can only
contribute to a Roth with W2 or taxable earned income.
And then lastly, you could do some gift things as well if you have some extra income.
It's like $12,900 plus that you can contribute tax-free to your children as a gift.
If you have a ton of extra disposable income, that's another way to.
to do it as well. Now, if you have own a business, you can also pay your children in that business
and then contribute that money to a Roth if you want to do it that way. And that's just going to help
you reduce some of that tax liability. Get a tax deduction. It's a double whammy there. You can get a
tax deduction. And in addition, help your kids build wealth inside of a Roth. So if you own a business,
your kids work inside of that business, you can also do that. So that is some of what is going to be
coming in that children stairway to wealth that we have in place. But that is the gist of the beginning
order at least of how you can build generational wealth for your kids. We're going to have more coming.
Don't worry. We're going to have entire episodes on some of these things. But that is a great place to
start is making sure you at least are taking care of your retirement, making sure that you add them as an
authorized user on your credit card if you're responsible. And in addition, start investing for them.
Choosing the investment accounts to $529 plan is my favorite way to save for college because of this
additional rule that's coming into place where you can roll that money into a Roth IRA if they decide not to go to
college. Maybe they build a business in their teenage years and they've done.
decide not to go to college. And so that's something where you have options when you do that.
And we have an episode on the 529 plan, flexible 529 accounts. If you want to check that out as well,
we will link it up in the show notes. Now let's jump to the next question.
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Number two, should I buy a car if the monthly payments fit my budget?
This is a question that I get a lot and I get it way too often.
often. So let me explain something. I'm going to give you the quick answer right now. Never, ever, ever, ever,
did I say ever, buy a car based on the monthly payments. This is one of the most predatory things that
dealerships do. They try to factor in, hey, how much can you afford based on your monthly payment?
Then they make the loan try to fit that payment. So if you notice whenever you go into a car dealership,
they ask you how much you can afford per month because this is how people think. But if you do this this way,
If you buy a car based on the monthly payment, you can be paying way more car than you can
afford. Now, we've done a number of episodes on how to buy a car. We've done episodes on the crazy
impact of owning a car and how much the maintenance costs in addition to car ownership is going
to cost you over a long period of time and the opportunity cost that you were losing out on
by purchasing that car. But if you have a recycling monthly payment, it is very hard to build wealth.
A lot of people will complain they can't build wealth, but the reason why they can't build wealth is because their $1,000 lifted truck car payment.
Or the reason why they can't build wealth is because they just bought a $70,000 Tesla that has a $1,000 payment because they think they can afford that payment.
This is not the way to build wealth.
Now, if you can afford it, we're going to give you the numbers, we're going to show you how to figure out if you can afford this.
But if you can't afford the car, fine, no problem there.
But a lot of people are buying vehicles that they cannot afford.
Now, if you are looking to become financially independent very quickly, then what you really want
to do is you want to be buying the least expensive car that you possibly can that is going to be
safe and reliable for you to drive to point A to point B. Now, if you're a car person,
if you absolutely love cars and you want to spend money on things that bring you value and you
value cars that much, then fine. Just know the ramifications of that depreciating asset because
that's what it is. It goes down in value every single year. So just know the ramifications of your
wealth by buying new cars, buying new car parts, wasting your money on some of those things.
Now, it's not a waste if it brings you value. This is what I want to make clear to every single
person here, because we all have things that bring us value. We all blow money on things that
other people think is crazy. But if other people think it's crazy, as long as you budget that
out and you are still hitting your investment goals, the key is that you are still hitting
your financial and investment goals. You have an emergency fund saved up. You're hitting all your
goals. You're maxing out what you want to max out. You're making sure that you're on pace to retire.
then ball out. Do whatever you want with those extra dollars. But if you're not hitting those goals and you're still doing those things, then you are falling behind and you are losing out on your freedom. And freedom is the most powerful thing that we can put in place. Now, the reason why I want you to understand why you should not be utilizing car payments, I'm going to show you how car payments are calculated first. So obviously, it's the price of the car and then the trade in value of whatever you're trading in. And then any cash you put down as a down payment, and then the total amount of the loan, which is the principal, and then the interest rate on the loan,
and the number of months it would take you to pay off that loan. That is how car payments are calculated.
Now, if that sounds confusing to you, it's because that's the way they want it to be. They want it to be
confusing to you so that you don't understand that this is really bad financial decision to only
calculate buying a car based on those car payments. So a better way to buy a car. There's a couple of
different ways. We've gone through a bunch of them in the past before, but some of the best ways and one of
my favorite ways to do it is buy a car a few years used because it reduces in value on that
depreciation hit. And then you can figure out if you can actually afford it. So we have a couple of
rules of thumb that we've talked about in the past on how to buy a car. And I've got a couple of these
here, but you got to figure out, can I actually afford the car? So we actually do this based on what your
income is. So the highest you should go based on the rule of thumb, let's say you have a low income,
but you have kids and you want to make sure you have the safest car possible, should be 35% or
less of your entire income for one year. So if you make $100,000 a year, you should
not spend more than $35,000 on a vehicle. Now, car prices have gone up significantly since we started
these rules of thumb. So if you want to find flexibility in here, you're going to have to reduce your
costs in other areas of the big three, either food, housing, transportation, or something else that you
spend a lot of money on. The fire rule of thumb is to spend 10% of your income on a vehicle. Now,
this is difficult for a lot of people, but if you want to be financially independent in 10 years or
less, that's the thought process that you should have. Now, is that realistic for everyone? Absolutely
not. I understand that. But if you're really being aggressive and you want to retire really, really early,
then that is a great rule of thumb to have to reduce those costs in place. And the compromise rule of
thumb is anywhere between 15 to 20% of your income on that vehicle. Or you could do it with the net worth
rule. When our net worth rule was 5% of your income on that vehicle. Now, I'm going to give you one
other rule of thumb or school of thought here as you go through this. This is one that I think is a lot
more applicable to now when car prices are really high. But the rule of thumb is called the 238 rule.
You put 20% down, so you have to at least put a down payment of 20% down, whether it's your trade in
value or not. You put that 20% down on the vehicle. Your loan is no longer than three years long,
and your payments are less than 8% of your income every single year, meaning 8% of your pre-tax
income for all the payments throughout the entire year. See, what a lot of people do is they make
$50,000 a year and they have $1,000 a year car payment, well, that's just not going to cut it.
It's got to be 8% or less of your pre-tax income for the entire year. So I like that rule for right now,
when car prices are crazy and they're really high. And if you really need a car, then that is the way
to go. If you don't really need a car, then keeping your vehicle, especially if it has no payments,
is always the best way to go. Just drive that thing as long as possible. So for example, I bought my car
in 2019. And it was a year old. It already took a major depreciation hit. This was before car prices got crazy. And it's a truck. And so I have always wanted a truck. And I am just going to drive that thing as long as I possibly can. In fact, I'm going to make a game out of this and try to drive it all the way up to 15, 20 years and see how long I can drive it. Why? Because cars are not my primary goal. Having the nicest car is not my primary goal. My primary goal is safety from getting point A to point B, having the vehicle that I want.
and just driving it for a very long period of time. Why? Because I'd rather put my dollars
towards wealth-building activities and I care more about other things than I do driving that car.
So making sure that you go through this process, thinking through exactly how long you want to drive
this car. And then I like the 23-8 rule for right now when car prices are high. That's how I think
you need to think about it. That means 20% down. Your car loan is no longer than three years because
dealerships try to stretch it out for 72 months, 84 months, and all of a sudden, you're making
car payments for years and years and years at a time and they're just collecting interest on that.
they're incentivized to do that. And then no more than 8% of your gross income spent on car payments
every single year. So that's how you can still generate a ton of wealth and still have a bunch of
extra dollars towards wealth-filling activities for a lot of different situations. So think through that.
That is a great rule of thumb. And if you're looking to become financially independent in less
than 10 years, I would make it 10% of your total income as the car purchase price. And the highest rule of
thumb is the highest you should go is 35% of one year's income on a purchase price. So thinking through
this, let me know if you guys have any questions.
on Instagram or shoot me an email and we can go through some of the other options as well.
Okay, the next question. For those looking to move right now, should you hold on to your house and
rent it out? So this is a fantastic strategy if you are interested in getting into real estate.
Specifically, if you're someone who is interested in getting to real estate long term or you want
to do something like the hybrid method, if you don't know what the hybrid method, that's what we
call investing in real estate or businesses and investing in the stock market as well. This is a great
way to have your first property. Is you have this property in place and I'm going to show you
Why? Because you have a bunch of exit strategies that are still tax-free. But you have this property in
that you lived in. So you know the property inside it out. You know what types of things need to be
fixed in that property. And you know there's going to be much less surprises than there would be
if you were just buying a random rental property that you've never lived in because you lived in that
house. You know which pipes make weird noises. You know which lights fixtures are kind of blinking.
You know if the roof is getting older. You know what all the issues are inside of that house.
And if your house is one where you are okay with it potentially getting messed up, scuffed up, because you have renters in there, and it's not going to emotionally bother you, and then this is a fantastic option for you.
Now, one thing that you can think about here is that you have a bunch of options if you do this, because you have a five-year trial period, basically, if you sell that house where you can use this house as your trial run to see if you are interested in real estate.
Why do I say that?
Now, one thing to note here is that you have a three-year trial run to see if you actually
like real estate, which is why I love this strategy for new investors.
Because what happens is if you've lived in the property for two of the last five years,
and if you're married and you sell the property and the profit is $500,000 or less,
then you can utilize that money as tax-free income because you lived in that property two of
the last five years.
So you have a three-year time frame here where you could say, hey, do I like investing in
rent to properties? Do I like managing properties and tenants? Do I like the way that this is helping
me build wealth? Is this something that I'm interested in? Because you can still have that exit
strategy of selling that property as long as the market doesn't go down. You've got to anticipate
holding for a long time if the market goes down. But if the market does not go down, you have that
option to exit that way tax free still. So this gives you the trial run. Maybe you go through one
year and you say, hey, real estate investing is not for me. It takes a lot more work than I thought
it did. I'm just going to stick with stocks, index funds, ETFs, those types of things.
But if you like investing in rental properties, maybe this is your caveat to learning how to do it.
You already know this house inside and out and then you can go out and you can buy more properties.
That is one thing to consider as well.
Now, how do you decide if a house is actually even going to make you money if you move out of it?
So you got to know how to run the numbers on a rental property.
Now, we have an episode on how to run the numbers on a rental property.
So you can go back and listen to that and figure out exactly how to do this.
But you need to know how to run your numbers.
You need to know how to run them properly before you can actually even consider.
this option because deciding if it can cash flow is one of the most powerful things that you can do in
order to make money. You make all your money in real estate going into the deal. You do not make any money
in real estate by forcing appreciation afterwards. All your money is made by making sure you run your numbers
correctly and doing the due diligence up front. You've already done the repair due diligence because
you lived in the house. So you need to understand how much is this going to cost me every single
month and you can go back and look at some of your receipts to see what does my maintenance cost
spin. You have another advantage by doing that and seeing some of those maintenance costs.
You can say, hey, this roof lasts 20 years. It's already 15 years old. I got five years left
before this capital expenditure of my roof is coming up due. I need to factor that in. Is this
going to cash flow if I have five years to save up for that roof? So this is another way that you can
really have an advantage for that house. Now, thinking through this option, once you run the numbers,
if it cash flows and you want to invest in real estate, this may be a fantastic option for you to do that.
Now, the third thing, if you need the funds for a down payment on your next house,
then this may not be an option for you as well.
Because if you need that down payment, you got to make sure that your next house is going
to be 30% or less of your net income so that you can make sure that you are not becoming
house poor on the next house.
So if you need that down payment, which a lot of folks do, especially in today's real
estate climate when prices are really high, then this may not be the best option for you.
But if you've saved up for your next down payment, keeping that house may be an awesome way
for you to start your real estate journey and start earning some cash flow.
The next one is what is a 403B and how does it fall into place with the stairway to wealth?
So a 403B is going to fall into place the same place as a 401K would.
And we're going to go through what a 403B is, how it works and some of the considerations that you should have.
But a 403B as it pertains to the stairway to wealth will fall into place exactly how a 401k would.
These are interchangeable depending on where you work and what you're.
your company does. So if you don't know what a 403B is, it is a retirement plan just like a 401K
for employees of nonprofit organizations, public school, so a lot of teachers are going to have
403Bs available for them, and tax-exempt organizations. So it's very similar to a 401K
where you contribute a portion of your salary to a tax advantage account. Now, the contributions
on a 403B are pre-tax, meaning they're reducing your taxable income and they grow tax-free
until withdrawal in retirement, and then when you withdraw the money in retirement, then you're
going to pay taxes on that money at that point in time. Now, there are differences between the 403B
and something like a 401k or an IRA. So the 403B is only available to employees of these certain
organizations. So not everyone has access to a 403B. It's only employees of some of the
organizations that actually qualify. Well, an IRA is available to anybody. Now, 403B contribution
limits are higher than a traditional IRA, but they are the same as something like a
the 401k. So the current 403B contribution limits for 2003 at the time recording this is $22,500.
and the catch-up contribution is the same. It's an additional $7,500 for those age 50 and older.
If you're listening to this in the future, make sure you're checking the current
contribution limits if it's 2024 or 2025 to make sure they didn't go up because they may
have gone up at that point in time. Now, here's a couple of ways to increase your contribution
limits. One of which is you always want to get your 403B match. So if you're
employer is willing to match, you always want to get that match, and that's at least at minimum,
what you should be doing with your 403B. Why? Because an employer match is absolutely free money.
Now, if you've never heard of an employer match, what it is, is maybe, for example, some employers
will say, hey, if you contribute 4% of your income to your 403B, then we will match that 4% and
you will have 8%. It's 4% free money that you actually get. So every $100 that you put in,
that's part of that 4%. You're going to get an additional $100 given to you inside of that account.
inside of this tax advantage account. It's a very powerful thing that you can be doing. Now,
should you invest in your 403B? There's a couple of considerations to think about here.
Number one is you've got to look at the fees of the investments inside of that account.
Do you actually like the investments inside of the 403B? Some 403Bs are notorious for having
high fee investments, especially if they work with a provider that has really high fee investment.
So making sure you're looking at those fees and if those fees are really high, then you may want to consider
investing in an IRA and a Roth IRA before you go back to your 403B because having high fees
inside of your investments will absolutely destroy your wealth building ability. And we've talked about
that in a number of Q&As. We have an entire episode talking about that as well. But you want to
make sure that you are avoiding those fees at all costs. If they have really high fees, go to an IRA,
consider an IRA or a Roth IRA or even a taxable brokerage at some point in time would be better off
than having really high fee investments. Secondly, if you don't like the investment option,
Say, for example, inside, they only have mutual funds inside there and you want to invest in
index funds, for example.
If you don't like those investment options, then you're better off going towards an IRA,
Roth IRA, then going back to the 403B once you max all of those out if you have the extra
disposable income to do so.
So considering if you like those investments, considering if the fees are high, and if you're
wondering, hey, how much is a really high fee?
Well, anything, in my opinion, above 0.30% is going to be pretty high and above
of 0.50% or 50 basis points is really high. And if you don't know how to look up fees for a mutual
fund or an index fund or whatever it is, just take the ticker symbol, go to morningstar.com, put it in there,
and it will show you what the fee is for that fund. And so making sure it's less than a half a percent
is imperative, but making sure it's less than 0.3% is even better. Because if it's more than 0.3%,
you can go get a robo advisor to handle your funds for you and you don't have to worry about it.
Now, Vanguard index funds and ETFs typically are somewhere around 0.04% to 0.15%.
So that's some really low cost index funds that you can look into if you want to keep those fees lower.
But making sure that you like the investments in that account and that the fees are low enough and it fits your investment strategy is the two things you want to consider to see if you actually want to invest in the 403B.
And to wrap it up, the 403B will fit into the 401k option when we're talking about the 401k in the stairway 12.
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