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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Pony Express Radio.
I am Paul Fahrenheit standing in for our fearless leader Red Hawk, who is out this week.
after a very long work week.
I am joined this evening by a bunch of very good friends of mine
who have decided to be guests with us this evening.
So first and foremost, we have Mr. Pete Cignonas.
Welcome back, Pete.
Glad to be back. Glad to be back.
Outstanding, thank you.
We are also joined by Mr. Frost.
How are you doing, sir?
Doing all right.
Could be better, but pollen's going to pollen.
Yeah, that's absolutely correct.
And finally, we are also joined by a good friend of
Mr. Cook, how are you doing, sir?
Doing good, glad to be on.
Excellent. Thank you very much.
So, gentlemen, I don't want to say it's been a slower news week because there's no such
thing as a slow news week in Trump, too, but it has been a bit less, you know, eventful than
the last couple of weeks.
However, there have been some, you know, key issues this week.
And the first one that I wanted to speak to and I wanted to bring up is the evergreen issue
of immigration.
immigration has you know we all know this it's been the biggest issue of the administration it's been the
biggest issue of this club of this organization of our movement in general is is just the fact that
you don't have a country if you don't have borders and if you have a whole bunch of foreign
nationals of all sorts of varieties particularly those who get emptied from prisons and our gangs
get sent here this has been the biggest issue and this week this week there was a fight
over a particular individual that I guess it, you know,
it sort of came to people's attention
when some reporter asked Trump
while Buckelé, who's president of El Salvador,
was visiting the White House.
And so this started this huge fight over this guy
whose name, I don't even recall.
I know it's something Hispanic.
And getting him readmitted to the United States,
despite the fact that he was a illegal alien,
a foreigner, a foreign alien.
he was in a gang, he was in MS-13, if I remember correctly,
and he was convicted of several crimes within the United States,
not even just like personal crimes.
So I want to hear what you gentlemen have to say about this whole issue.
I know we're going to probably watch the interview with President Buckelly,
but before we get that started,
do you gentlemen have any initial thoughts about this?
I don't care what the court say.
He doesn't belong here.
I'm going to be of the simple position.
Weren't they trying to throw him out in 2019, and then he tried seeking asylum?
No, you were here seven years and you didn't do anything, and they caught you.
You go back.
To add to that, the reason he was trying to claim asylum was because he was afraid of this gang called the 18th Street gang, I believe, is the name of it.
That gang was destroyed by President Bakele back in 2020, 2020, 2021.
So the reason that he, quote, unquote, feared for his life no longer exist.
His home is perfectly safe and habitable for him again.
No, absolutely.
No, this dude was utterly bad news.
He was, you know, I just from the little bits I've glanced about him,
he's almost the botanic ideal of the kind of guy we were trying to get rid of.
And I know that a great many Democrats tried to make a fight over,
and a bunch of senators were like flying to El Salvador to try to get rid of.
him back or something like that.
But I want us to,
what I would like us to do, go ahead.
Buckelly should have, you know,
when the senators
showed up there,
you know, gave him a tour of Seacott and
left it, locked him inside.
I think that's a place
where they belong.
I think he'd be doing Trump a favor,
but I don't know if
Trump could withstand that on the international stage.
If you have a,
world country jailing U.S. senators.
I don't know if, you know, it doesn't matter what there is.
But, yeah, that would be something great, wouldn't it?
I mean, it would be aiding and abetting a prison break.
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That is true.
That is true, aiding and abet.
You know, and this is the thing.
I don't know if it, I don't, I'm not a lawyer.
I'm not familiar with the law,
but I believe that there's some kind of law
that prevents,
that prevents senators or congressmen
or something from going overseas
and doing this sort of thing to foreign governments.
Do any of you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, it's the one they tried to hit Tulsi with.
I can't remember what the hell it was.
You mean like the Logan Act?
Yeah, I think it's the Logan Act.
That sounds familiar.
I don't know if the Logan Act would necessarily apply
in this sort of a scenario, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, I just know that there's like these activists.
It disallows private diplomacy with foreign governments.
Basically, U.S. citizen cannot engage in communications with foreign governments without authorization from our government.
So I guess the loophole would be, since they are a part of the government, are they actually violating the Logan Act?
Yeah, I suppose that's right.
Still, I believe it's in principle, the fact that you have senators just going to,
foreign countries to advocate on behalf of foreign nationals.
It's, it really, you know, I know it's kind of trite to talk about the state that
the Congress has reached, but it really does get hit home to us every single day.
But I would like if we can, I would like if we can for us to watch this video of this
reporter getting absolutely obliterated.
I know not all of you have watched it.
We're going to have all four minutes of it.
We're going to probably pause and make comments within it
just so it's not four minutes of uninterruptive footage.
But to be honest with you,
when I sat down and watched this,
this four minutes flew by in a flash.
It was amazing.
So, yeah, I really think we should watch this.
Damn it, Doug.
It's all good. Oh, here we go.
The man who was mistakenly deported,
the man who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador?
Well, let me ask Pam, would you answer that question?
Sure, President.
First and foremost, he was illegally in our country.
He had been illegally in our country.
And in 2019, two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court,
ruled that he was a member of MS-13, and he was illegally in our country.
Right now, it was a paperwork.
It was additional paperwork had needed to be done.
that's up to El Salvador if they want to return him.
That's not up to us.
The Supreme Court ruled president that if, as El Salvador wants to return him, this is international
matters, foreign affairs, if they wanted to return him, we would facilitate it, meaning provide
a plane.
So will you return him to President?
And you are doing a great job.
Thank you.
Can you just also respond to that question?
Because, you know, it's asked by CNN, and they always always do.
ask it with a slant because they're totally slanted because they don't know what's happening.
That's why nobody's watching them.
But would you answer that question also?
Yes, gladly.
So as Pam mentioned, there's an illegal alien from El Salvador.
So with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador.
So it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador
how to handle their own citizens as a starting point.
as two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13.
When President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization,
that meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law,
which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA,
that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States.
So we had a deportation order that was valid,
which meant that under our law he's not even allowed to be present in the United States
and had to be returned because of the foreign state.
terrorist designation. This issue was then by a district court judge completely inverted,
and a district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen
of El Salvador and flying back here. That issue was raised to the Supreme Court, and the
Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful, and its main components were reversed
9-0 unanimously, stating clearly that neither Secretary of State nor the President could be compelled
by anybody to forcibly retrieve
a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador
who again is a member of MS-13
which is I'm sure you understand
rapes little girls, murderous woman,
murderous children is engaged in the most barbaric
activities in the world and I can promise you
if he was your neighbor you would move right away.
So you don't plan to ask for a...
The Supreme Court is asking to...
A posit real quick. Pause it real quick after that.
So I just want
a moment of appreciation
for Stephen Miller
and for everything he does.
Thank you very much, Mr. Miller.
Mr. Miller, Esquire, I guess he's a lawyer.
But the fact that the Supreme Court overturned that district court order 9-0,
even Amy Coney-Barrant joined it,
even whoever the black woman that they have on it,
I don't remember her name, even she joined it in that decision.
This is so cut in dry.
that even activist judges on the Supreme Court couldn't be seen basically going against this ruling.
So I think, gentlemen, I think there's a very serious problem with the district courts in this country.
Well, yeah, I mean, how constitutional are they? That's a question I have. I haven't dug deep into that.
Yeah, I would like to say Stephen Miller's done a great job with immigration. He's been about immigration, his whole
life even when he was in high school.
Don't go to his Twitter feed and search the word
Israel.
But yeah,
can't these
courts just be
demolished? I assume they were
they're just a product of
the New Deal regime.
They were created by the Congress. They can be
abolished by the Congress.
Absolutely true.
I mean, one thing, I was, when I was
taking a pre, I was taking some pre-law classes in
college. And one of the things that kind of struck me when we were learning Supreme Court precedent
initially was just how John Marshall, basically from the bench, just decided that the Supreme Court
was now a third branch of government, co-equal with the other two. And, you know, in the longest
Supreme Court ruling ever, basically added a whole clause to the Constitution in Marbury v. Madison,
which is the precedent upon which all other Supreme Court precedent is based. So,
just like if you want to talk about the the courts basically having way more power than they should
you that goes all the way back to i think the first supreme court decision that was ever made
period yep yeah anyway we can keep playing it
in the supreme court Steve was it nine to nothing yes it was a nine zero in our favor in our favor
against the district court ruling saying that no district court has the power to compel the foreign
policy function of the United States. As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this individual
at El Salvador's sole discretion was sent back to our country so we could deport him a second
time. No version of this legally ends up with him ever living here because he is a citizen of El Salvador.
That is the president of El Salvador. Your questions about it per the court can only be directed to him.
I asked, can President Buckele-Way in on this? Do you plan to return him?
Well, I also have not suggested that I smuggle a terrorist into the United States, right?
How can I smuggle?
How can I return him to the United States?
It's like I smuggle him into the United States or whether I do the course.
I'm not going to do it.
It's like, I mean, the question is preposterous.
How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States?
I don't have the power to return him to the United States.
But you can release him inside of the federal.
Yeah, but I'm not releasing, I mean, we're not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country.
I mean, you just turned the murder capital of the world
into the safest country of the Western Hemisphere,
and you want us to go back into the releasing criminals
so we can go back to being the murder capital of the world.
And that's not going to happen.
Well, they'd love to have a criminal, you know,
I mean, there's a fascination.
They would love it.
Yeah, they're sick.
These are sick people.
Mark, did you have something to say about it?
Yeah, I mean, Steve and I outlined,
I don't understand what the confusion is.
This individual is a citizen of El Salvador.
He was illegally in the United States,
and was returning.
to his country. That's where you deport people, back to their country of origin, except for Venezuela
that wasn't refusing to take people back of places like that. I can tell you this, Mr. President.
No, the foreign policy of the United States is conducted by the President of the United States,
not by a court. And no court in the United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy
of the United States. It's that simple.
So pause that real quick. So there was another Supreme Court case that was decided in the
in the 1930s, I believe. It was called Curtis Wright v. United States.
United States. It was about the Curtis Wright airplane company selling airplane machine guns to,
I think it was Paraguay during the Chaco War, which is a much-forgotten conflict. But with the,
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I think that's the end anyway.
But the decision in that Supreme Court case, Curtis Wright v. United States,
was basically the reason that this was brought up was that Curtis Wright sold these machine guns to Paraguay
in violation of an embargo that was placed on Paraguay, I think by the executive branch.
and so the decision of that Supreme Court case
because it hit on a very sophisticated point of law
basically the decision of the United States
is what's called the sole organ doctrine
right the sole organ doctrine
what this basically means
is that the foreign policy of the United States
must be conducted through the executive branch
you know things like treaties
things like official binding resolutions
you know all this other stuff that goes through
Congress. However, immediate foreign policy and immediate foreign relations of any kind must be
conducted through the president. And so what these courts are functionally doing is they're in
violation of that doctrine in the sense that they are imposing upon the executive branch,
upon the presidency in particular, a, you know, constraints as to how he is supposed to act in foreign
policy. So
this, I think that's, you know, this is,
the reason I wanted to play this whole
video is simply because
I want to demonstrate, you know, I think we all know this, but I
just, you know, I want it to be made absolutely clear
that the United States is currently functioning
so far in violation of its own law
and statute, in non-enforcement
of its own law and statute that it's,
it's just, it's disgusting.
Well, I mean, and that's one of the reasons why
a president who can go in there and start,
be the executive that the,
even just the law allows,
is going to look like a dictator.
Because, I mean, we, listen to what that reporter asked.
That reporter asked President Bucheli
if he would release the terrorist into his own country.
As somebody who was in El Salvador a month ago,
and considers it to be safer than any blue city or big city in this country,
what's he supposed to say to those people?
What's he supposed to say to a CNN reporter?
I mean, these people want to punish the average person.
They want the person on the street to be scared,
and they get to go to their high-rise or they get to go to their gated community.
These people are the enemy.
We are surrounded by the enemy.
The enemy controls the narrative in many cases.
We need an executive who governs in a way that they understand that.
And I'm hoping one comes along one day or somebody wakes up.
I absolutely agree with that.
I mean, even though El Salvador is a small place
and it's a much smaller area to exercise influence over,
if you can take a place that's that bad and almost overnight make it literally the leading country
in the Western Hemisphere for safety.
You can fix Chicago.
You can fix Chicago.
You can fix L.A.
You can fix San Francisco.
You can fix New York.
You can fix Boston.
You can fit all of these cities.
You can fix Miami.
You can fix all of them.
Because with the exception of maybe New York, which one of them has, El Salvador is 6.6.6.
million people. Which one of them has
6.6 million people in New York, maybe
Orange County, maybe L.A.
It could be done.
Eric Prince could do it in a weekend.
Yeah. I agree. I completely agree.
And it's literally just a lack of
will. Ever since the 1970s,
people have just been unable to conceive
of cities as anything other than
where we just let
people be criminals for whatever
reason because we just let them be criminals there.
the criminal storage place.
No, I completely agree.
I completely agree.
Either of you gentlemen have anything, Mr. Frost or Mr. Cook.
I'm just fundamentally, it's one of those things.
I feel like there needs to be a better way of tightening up states documentation.
Like how was an illegal able to get married here and have that be on documentation?
Like that should have been in
In addition to that,
I don't want to say tax filing
but the IRS
has really been dropping the ball
on that because ICE could have been handling
that for
how many decades at this point
of oh wait, you're filing taxes,
you're illegal, off you go
in one of those things. Like it's
the documentation of
we don't know where they are
is certainly a lie because they've been
getting tax returns.
that's yeah that's i think the the most insulting thing about all of this is that
i mean these people have been issued social security numbers these people have as you say
gotten merit certificates have gotten tax returns have have done all these other things and
they've just been treated almost the exact same sometimes a little bit better than american
citizens who are required to do all the same things and the american citizens are liable for
the consequences of not complying with these legal documents but because these people are not
legal. These people are illegal, they can simply
vanish, you know, or they can
improperly do things.
And that's the least, that is, of course,
the least of the problems
that they bring here, but it's, it's the
insult to the injury.
It's the fact that, you know, this, this guy had a
merit certificate. He wasn't even, he wasn't
even a legal
resident alien.
It's,
I don't know.
Not only that, I'd like to
just comment on
something that Miller said
in the video.
This gang, MS-13,
for the general viewers and those you who may not know,
look up some of the crimes that they've,
that those gangbangers have committed in the States.
It's like ghastly.
Don't do it around your wives or girlfriends.
Yeah, it's ghastly.
Like, anybody who's a member of this gang,
it's not like you're dropping off a car or whatever.
Like, you're doing some really, really messed up stuff.
And I don't want you, I don't want you
within a thousand miles of the southern border of this country,
let alone living in it and getting married in it.
Jesus Christ.
It's spelled deportation.
It's so true.
It's so true.
No, Mr. Cook, I grew up in Northern Virginia,
as most everyone in the audience knows.
And MS-13 had probably one of the largest presences
in the United States in Northern Virginia,
particularly in Loudoun and Fairfax counties and in Arlington and Alexandria and all that.
And I would hear, they weren't in the particular area I was in, at least not heavy,
but I would hear all kinds of things growing up.
There were kids who would be getting gun down at bus stops.
And some of the richest counties in the United States, you know,
girls would just disappear and then would be found in pieces.
Or, you know, people would be, like it's a mafia movie.
some people were found, you know, hung up on a hook and an abandoned building somewhere in some
industrial area.
It's, it's, you know, and that's the least of, you know, I remember was, and the fear, you know,
that they, that they had, particularly amongst, you know, I'm not here to, they're, I'm not going to,
I don't know if I should tell this story, but there was, there was an incident where I was working
with some Salvadorians and I made a joke and they, they almost said like, like, look, don't do that
or you'll get killed. They will kill you.
You know, if they find out that you're, you know,
making jokes about them.
So I'm frankly very glad that this whole group of people is gone,
that they've been eliminated and exterminated by,
and I hope Trump finishes the job of flushing out the remnants.
Yes, the treatment they should they get is the fire and the sword.
That's my take.
Precisely.
process stuff they're crying about
to hell with that. No. No.
And speaking of
fire and swords, they cost money.
So thank the good lord
that I think ICE is getting a huge
budget increase.
Yeah, right here. You have to use that, right?
You have to use it and you have to
have the will to use it.
I mean, I think...
Sorry, go ahead, Pete.
I have something to say about this
when you're done. Sure.
I think we
know that if this doesn't happen
there
I mean we're
we're in for
even if it does happen
we may be in for civil war
but we can talk about
we can actually talk about that later
no we absolutely can
because we've got something we're going to talk about
with that but no absolutely I think one of the issues
too
and correct me if I'm wrong but one of the
one of the things I've been hearing a lot of our
guys kind of complain about is like, oh, where are the mass deportations? Why aren't they happening?
Why aren't they happening? And I understand in some respect why they're saying that. I, of course,
you know, don't respect the fact that they're doubting the plan. That said, this is a revolutionary
administration in the sense that they are ripping out an entire infrastructure, an entire
bureaucracy that is purpose-built to ensure something like this does not happen, and they're
completely rebuilding it from the ground up. And they're doing a pretty good friggin job of it,
considering it's only been, what, three months, four months? You know, it, this is not,
we're not year three of the Trump administration. We're doing this. We're on like month three or
month four. And they've already, I don't mean to keep singing Trump's praises, but I'm going to
keep singing Trump's praises, like, a lot of the issues and the difficulties they've run into
is simply manpower shortages. They don't have enough ICE agents to do all of the deportations
they want to do. So seeing something like this, I think is very heartening. But Mr. Cook,
you had something. Yes, so this budget increase, so for your elucidation,
on the House side, and I think on the Senate side too,
ICE and border security falls under the jurisdiction of the Homeland Security Committee.
And a couple of my friends who work on that committee
had been saying that they were really trying to push for this
ever since Trump was sworn in because ICE has had a lot of budget issues in the past.
It had a lot of manpower issues, especially under Biden.
Morale was very low.
You had agents wanting to get transferred to the northern,
border where at least they could like perform some basic resemblance of their
enforcement duties and a lot of the to give the republicans and congress credit the guys that are
on the homeland security committee really really pushed hard for this increase and spent a lot
of time behind the scenes uh getting assurances from a lot of the rank and file members that
they would support this so i do think it's important to um give credit where credit is due here and
also kind of reassure people that, although Congress does kind of suck for the most part,
there are good people in it that are trying to help the president realize one of his most
important goals. I mean, you would know better than me on that. I'm very grateful to those
congressmen on the Homeland Security Committee then. If they were able to get this past,
you know, look, wars are won by logistics and logistics is money. You know, so if you don't
have the money to
deport the people
that need to be deported,
then, I mean, you're not
going to deport them, frankly. The will is here.
This is the thing.
The will to deport in the administration
is here. They just
need everything else.
Let's just hope Eric Prince gets some money to help
the deportations out of this.
Yeah. That would be
something.
All right, gentlemen, I think we're all good on this.
Excellent.
So before, Mr. Pete, we discussed the coming Civil War,
let's take a break from the news real quick and talk about the last Civil War,
particularly the meetup that we had in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, the weekend before last.
I was here. Mr. Frost was here. Mr. Cook was here.
And gentlemen, we wanted to have you on to just discuss the event to tell everyone in the audience
what you thought about it.
I would say
someone closer to the planning
aspect with the Delaware Crossing Society
taking point on that,
this was a smashing success.
It for a while looked like we weren't
going to eclipse our Valley Forge event
that we had thrown together in November,
and then at the last minute it just blew up with
people signing up. I mean, we had someone show up
from the Florida Dogs chapter.
Like, in Florida,
out of the blue.
That's impressive.
I would say the weather couldn't get any better than that.
Like, misting in the beginning, dry the rest of the time,
wasn't too muddy on the reenactment of Pickett's Charge
and just crossing at that section of the field.
We had probably the best tour guide we ever could for the money.
I would agree with that.
The tour guide was very well versed in the history and the lore of the battle
and was a great orator, a modern Cicero, if you will.
Well, that's awesome, gentlemen.
So what was the, what was the shape of the tour?
How did it start out?
What were the, what was the kind of the assembly of the gentleman present there?
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The composition of who was there.
I'd say we had
it was more northerner
I'll give them that we had
we had a contingent show up from the
Ivy League Society
yeah how many chapters were there
we had
six official chapters
two proto chapters
showed up
six chapters
of the OGC showed up to this event
yes and what was the total attendance
it was 47
when all of a sudden done
so so
47 guys from six chapters and of course two nascent chapters that haven't incorporated yet showed up to this event.
Wow.
And were they well behaved?
Were they, you know, was there any problems or was it there just a general feeling of brotherhood throughout the event?
I would say, I'll use this example.
The first March that you led through Gettysburg, water was kind of the left.
Last logistic everyone thought about, nobody really had it.
Everybody brought water.
Everybody was cognizant about their trash, snacks, everything, water.
Nothing was left.
It was perfect.
Everyone controlled themselves.
There was no craziness.
Got a little slow at certain points, but someone had to pull up the rear.
Yeah, outstanding.
Mr. Cook, I know that you're a very studied historian
of the war between the states, and I wanted your
opinion as to how well the
the historical aspect and the
and the recreation of the battle went during the tour.
Oh, you do me great honor, a studied historian,
putting that on my resume.
But I think that it was very well done.
there was, you know, much
deserved respect paid to the men of the North and the South
that fought at Gettysburg.
The way that the tour was conducted was done,
I think, very, very well.
I really liked the way that we finished off with Pickets Charge.
That was definitely my favorite part.
I'm sure many other people who were there
probably have the same
same feelings about it.
And yeah, I would rate it
a smashing success overall.
And for those among us
who probably didn't know
some of the specifics about the battle,
I think it's very safe to say
they came away with a better knowledge,
better understanding,
and a very deep appreciation
of what happened on those fields in July
in 1863.
If I may add,
one thing that was
interesting to some of the members
from the DCS chapter that really
hit home, especially with the image that
is shown that was from a little
round top. A bunch of us
had done paintball. It was kind of an unofficial
thing. It was just, you know, guys getting together
going up, doing paintball.
And we got our
rear ends kicked. The enemy
pushed us back. We were trying to break through, but
just couldn't. We have
shoes on. It's not hot.
We have water. We're well-equipped
and we just can't break through. Those
guys charged up that rocky
Hill,
barefoot
in 90 degree heat,
full sun,
getting shot at.
With a heavy-ass musket.
I don't think many of us could do it.
It was truly a different
type of man that
participated in that.
Would either of you gentlemen
go on this sort of event again?
Would you recommend other people, whether they're
members of the OGC or interested in
joining or just, you know, adjacent, but if the event be open to, this wasn't open to the public,
but if the event, you know, something like this was open to the public or some, would you
recommend people come to this? Would you come to something like this again?
As I recommended on the not state of the union, state of the union address, find your local
chapters, sign up. It was the ticket, you just showed up for the tour itself. It was free.
there was no money involved
you just had to be a member
stuff like this
it's kind of the lowest bar
you just have to get in there
and help these chapters grow
network
there are multiple benefits to it but
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Find the group of guys who are trying to set up.
And, hey, I had little to no involvement in the political sphere at all, online.
And then somehow in this chapter secretary of the DCS in a matter of months, like, you can just do things.
Absolutely.
Mr. Cook, you have anything else?
I think for us pretty much summed up how I felt very well.
I will add a corollary, though.
I highly encourage local OGC chapters to find some historical sites closer to town
and have your own sort of guided tours, walkthroughs, whatever.
If you've got a Revolutionary War battlefield or a Civil War battlefield near you,
doing something like this is one, it's a great way to build
brotherhood and brotherly love.
Two, if you organize like, you know, trash pickups,
I did notice some trash on the battlefield
that I tried to pick up when I could,
but I only had, you know, two hands in a couple pockets.
Cleaning up these kinds of historical sites
is definitely something that's well worth the club's time, in my opinion.
And it also has the potential to build relationships
among people in these chapters and also with the national parks, the local residents,
and the general public at large.
So I think that these kinds of events are an excellent vector for our energies,
and I really am looking forward to the next one.
Outstanding.
Yeah, and honestly, I just kind of on your point,
because you brought up something I was thinking about.
I was in the Virginia chat today of the, you know, Vetus Dominium, first, first ever chapter of the OGC.
I have to always say that.
They were talking about possibly adopt it.
I don't know if other states have this, but in Virginia, you can adopt a road.
There's a sign that they'll put up and it'll have your organizations or your name on it if you do trash pickups on that road.
And it's a nice community building thing.
And they were talking about doing that.
And so it doesn't have to necessarily just be a historic.
outside, although we very much care about historic preservation within the OGC, but even something
like picking up trash on a local road, making it look nicer, making it look like people care about that.
This is the type of stuff that the OGC is here for is, you know, those 10,000 little things that
make a civilization well inhabited and well lived in. So that's, you know, that's just something,
you know, you don't have to just limit it to historical battlefields. You can step off the battlefield
field too and step back into the present and take that same inspiration, that same,
that same energy and bring it into your day-to-day lives.
And that's how you make real change.
So, yeah, that's just something I wanted to sort of add to that.
Pete, I know you weren't there, but just from someone who wasn't there, how did this whole
event sound?
How does this all sound like, does it sound like something that the OGC, the OGC would
be proud to have its name attached to?
Definitely, definitely.
And, you know, all over, all over the south where I am, you know, I'm not far from, pretty much everywhere I drive in my area, there's a monument to the war.
And, you know, there's, this is something we should, all of the, all of the chapters, especially the ones, you know, south of the Mason, Dixon should be, should be doing.
you know, it's a cheap get together and it's a good time for camaraderie.
Outstanding.
I think it's in Lee County, Alabama.
I've seen this marker when I was in college down there.
There is a marker where the 15th Alabama, who were the Southerners who charged up the flank of Little Roundtop, 20th Maine.
If you've seen the movie Gettysburg, you know what I'm talking about.
There's a marker in Lee County, Alabama.
I believe, where they mustered up in 1861 when the war began.
The South is full of those little things, if you just look.
Absolutely.
Yeah, it was, I don't want to go too much on a talk about this,
but it was like the male populations of entire southern towns
and sometimes even entire southern counties that marched off to fight in 1861.
Yeah, like, I know this isn't war between the states,
but I mean, I live like 35 minutes from Port Shoebend.
Anyone who knows their Andrew Jackson, Laura, should know where that is.
And that actually reminds me, you know, for those of you who may be a bit further west
or you may be in an area where there aren't like civil war battlefields or anything like that,
I guarantee you there's something near you.
There's something.
Out west, you have all kinds of Indian forts.
You know, I mean, all the ones I think of now are army bases.
I don't know if you should have an event there.
But there are a bunch of Indian forts out there.
There's geological formations.
There's state parks, national parks.
It doesn't have to just be a battlefield.
It could be something that's a creation of God's hands that you have in your state that's unique there.
Anything, anything that's near you, I guarantee you there's something.
Unless you're in Kansas.
you know i if you're if you're in if you're i know the wichita o gc is here i'm just you know you can do
something at dodge city i think i think that's uh i think that's that actually no kansas kansas has
some stuff you know dodd city is is a good example you could have like a cowboy white erp
event there i know we've got a wichita guys here i'm not i'm not picking on you kansas um
but yeah no there's always there has to be something near you something near you and all you have to do is just go and
find it. And you too, your chapter, your group of guys can have an event that is as special
as what this Gettysburg event was. All right. Does anyone have any final thoughts on this before
we move on? Next time we'll reenact Pickett charge and we'll win by God.
If, look, if Pickett and Pedigrew and all the others couldn't do it, then I don't know, I don't
think we can. All right. Before we move on to the next topic, I think we're going to hit these
super chats real quick. So, first one from TK for $5. Wichita OGC represent. I was just picking on
Kansas. Wichita OGC represent, eat it, solid snack, salute, salute. Well, thank you very much,
Mr. TK. And I hope that the Home Range Society out there in Kansas is doing well.
C.J. L for $2. Thank you very much.
He says all solutions, all our solutions, excuse me, are Fed posts.
Well, I mean, not quite.
You know, a lot of our solutions are boring sounding and are limited to a court of law.
But, you know, outside of that, I agree.
A great many of our solutions are fed posts.
Aramaic discourse for $5.
He says, the deportations will continue until morale approves.
By God, I hope so.
Thank you very much, sir.
Don Browning for $20 sends a woman with a ponytail.
Well, thank you very much, Don Browning.
Always here.
High powered for $20 says, FYI, COVID-FHA home loss mitigation ends September 31st.
There are potentially hundreds of thousands that could hit the market because of this.
That's actually a pretty great FYI in my judgment.
Any of you in the market for a house, if that FHA stuff ends on September 31st, you might be able to pick something up for the cheap.
Hope that doesn't cause a follow-on market bubble.
But, oh, well.
Hunger for five U.S. dollars.
He says, Stephen Miller is my favorite bagel town resident, and Bukle is my favorite Palestinian.
You know, on that hunger, I saw something on the timeline today where some,
leftist was talking about Claudia Steinbaum or whoever, like getting the Mexican military to go
to El Salvador for a special military operation. And then someone quote tweeted and said, I don't know if
a Jew making, a Jew making war on a Palestinian is a good look. So I thought that was very funny.
Wow. No matter where you go, that particular conflict just seems to spring up everywhere.
Well, if I remember correctly, El Salvador doesn't even border Mexico.
There's like Guatemala between the two.
Yeah, it doesn't.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I know a great deal about Guatemala because I did a research project on Jorge O'Bucco Castaniera,
who was the dictator there in World War II.
He was an interesting fellow.
They called him the Napoleon of America, which was extremely flattering.
Balero 393 for five U.S. dollars.
Thank you very much, sir.
He says,
Stephen Miller knows Barabas was the wrong choice
and is making up for it.
Happy Easter, everyone.
Yeah, indeed, happy Easter.
You know, today is Mondi Thursday.
So tomorrow will be good Friday.
I hope everyone had a very good holy week,
and I hope everyone will have a very good Easter this weekend.
Machiavelli sucks.
Being white is great for $4.99.
He says, they are jokes.
Bring it.
I think this was in relation to the
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Yeah, no, absolutely.
I think he's talking about the media.
No, they absolutely are.
They utterly suck.
And if I'm wrong, correct me later.
Mellon for $5.
He says, Melon was also at the Gettysburg event.
He says, there were boomers following us around to hear our tour guide speak
and just join in the energy of the thing.
Oh, that's something.
Yeah, go ahead.
Well, I was going to say, I remember hearing
some people
rumble of oh don't interrupt
on their professional tour
so
that was funny to hear
it's like
a bunch of dudes getting together
we have a couple flags
it's all we need
I mean shoot like
if it looks the part I guess
and Mellon
was the first member of DCS
for Delaware Crossing Society
so
he will always have a special
place in a heart. Yeah. Mel,
Melon's done a lot of great work back when we were
doing the relief work in North Carolina.
I met him at the
Gettysburg event. I was, you know, very happy to meet him.
Seasider for $10
sends a salute. Man, Seasider, you've been
slacking. You've been slacken. We're very
grateful for your, for your consistent
support. But you've been slacking, man.
You're losing your place.
Now, as a matter of fact, people are now
sending in super chats to let us
know that you have lost your place.
So, I don't know, man.
Hunger for $50 U.S. dollars.
I think that deserves some gold.
This is gold, Mr. Bond.
All my life I've been in love with its color.
I welcome any enterprise that will increase my stock.
So for those of you who don't know,
that clip is from a movie called Kelly's Heroes,
which is my favorite World War II movie.
It's a great movie.
It's a clean Eastwood movie.
It's like, it was kind of like,
It was like the 1970s version of the expendables where you just have all the top actors of the day
just come together for an unsurious action film.
But it's a great movie.
I love it dearly.
But Hunger for 50 U.S. dollars, he says,
on behalf of the Delaware Crossing Society and the planning committee,
I want to personally thank everyone who attended the Gettysburg tour.
You can never undersell these things.
The camaraderie was fantastic.
The dinner was white pilling.
and the experience was very visceral.
I highly encourage everyone not to miss out on the next one.
Well, thank you, Hunger.
Yeah, we didn't even talk about the dinner that we had afterwards.
That, I think, that was like that, that was the icing on the cake,
the, the whole environment of the, of the tavern we were in.
It was, it was wonderful.
All right, yeah, thank you very much, hunger.
And then finally, Paladin Y, Y, Y, Z for $20.
He says, that White House meeting was scripted like a bad reader's digest riddle.
How many attorneys does it take to buy a plane ticket?
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
I don't think SNL could write a funnier skit if they tried.
No, no, that was the funniest thing about it.
It was an SNL skit.
It's like, I think what, you know, I'm a historian by education,
and I think what, and all that history is really is,
is the amassing of facts in order to create narratives.
And I think the narrative that'll be created, or at least one of the narratives that'll be created around Trump is the fact that he turned, his revolution was that he was able to turn politics into entertainment, which made things like SNL and stuff obsolete because you don't need SNL when the actual politics is the show.
And that's actually not new. American politics have been a carnival for a very long time. It just changes the type of entertainment.
And yeah, no, that was an S&L skit where, you know, it's like, you know, Trump's like, hey, A.G, answer that. Now, Stephen Miller, answer that. Now, President Bukele, who's sitting next to me, how about you answer that? Now, little Marco, yapping dog. How about you answer that? You know, it's, it's, it, you couldn't, you couldn't write better comedy. All right. And then finally, before we get, move on to our next topic.
Mr. Thomas Wayne Riley for $5.
He says, this is a fantastic idea.
Thankfully, New Mexico has battlefields as well and plenty of old frontier forts.
If you're in New Mexico, email the OGC immediately.
Yeah, no, Mexico had, in all honesty,
one of I think the most horrifying parts of the Civil War
with General Sibley's ill-fated expedition into New Mexico.
You read about what the Texans who had to march
back through the New Mexico desert, like the harshest part of it,
after the Confederates were defeated, it's horrifying.
All right, that finishes up our super chats for now.
Thank you all for your patronage as per usual,
and we will now move on into our next topic.
All right.
So, recently, as I think as of the 14th,
4chan, which many credit as the originating platform,
of
of
this whole
culture we all inhabit
this sort of online political sphere
4chan was taken down
by hackers and you are looking
at what I think
whether or not it's actually the last post on
4chan I think is less relevant
this is in popular memory
as to what will be the
last post on 4chan
and it's just
making fun of the stupid Minecraft
movie.
Yeah, I think, what is it?
I know it was a bunch of hackers that took it down and there was a bunch of metadata that
was released and the website was in utter shambles and very few people still use it.
But it had its place and it very much spawned a lot of the, you know, even our linguistic
signifiers, you know, little turns of phrase and memes and things like that.
it has inspired our everyday speech.
And so I guess we wanted to talk about
4chan and sort of the role it had
in spawning this online scene
and kind of what its vanishment,
it's being taken down sort of signifies.
It's the data that came out
showing that the overwhelming majority of the posts
that were on there came from
Israeli IPs is interesting
considering I mean I assume a good amount of those are from
VPNs but also you know I think we're pretty
we know what unit 80200 and what the JIDF was
was up to especially in the in the early
in the early tens in the early 2010s but um
yeah i mean this is i've never i've never posted on there but go on the boards and read i was a stone cold lurker
and i mean everybody talks about everybody talks about poll but there were places you can find recipes
there were places you could find exercises it was uh yeah i mean yeah rest in peace i guess i want to see
more meta information come out so we can know exactly what was going on there.
Yeah, I missed the golden era of poll.
I was mostly on Lit, actually, because I fancied myself an intellectual when I was in college.
But Lit, you know, really did contribute to, you know, someone like me who had never read
in my life actually going and finding great books to read.
And it set me on a path of enriching my inner life.
I'm going to take a weird take here
I mean I'm elder Gen Z
so I kind of missed out on
the golden age of pole dash
4chan before everything kind of went
chaotic in like 2018, 2019
that's when it started really changing
at least from what I had seen
I think
our sphere as a whole kind of outgrew it
to a degree like this
I don't want to say plug ourselves, the OGC is one of the fruit it bore before dying,
but we're meeting in person, we're doing things beyond just talking online,
which is, frankly, an even better outcome than just if it had kept going and kept sustaining itself as an entity.
I agree with that. I think that's the correct take from this, is that, you know,
the 4chan is kind of the very, you know, for all the things you can,
could describe it. It was certainly crass, crude, immature, all those words could be used to describe
it for good or for ill. And I think the take that we've outgrown it is the right one to take.
Mr. Cook, do you have anything on 4chan? No, not really. I'm kind of like, Frost. I was
a elder Gen Z, so I was never on like 4chan or Reddit. I was too busy doing other things in
college. I didn't really even get politically active until almost near graduation.
So I saw this news today and I kind of just like, oh, well, that happened.
Yeah, and I guess that really speaks to the place that 4chan had fallen to is it's like, no one, I, I don't, what is it, I did not go on it.
I have not been on it for years. And it just, because there's nothing of value there anymore.
I also assume that there's a lot of like weird fed, you know, honey pots and honey traps and just, you know,
stuff and
yeah
a lot of porn
really unappetizing
stuff
um
but you know
we wanted to mention this I suppose
not just because
4chan falling is is a
big deal I guess culturally
even though poor chan is more like
I guess it's kind of like the
collapse of the Roman Empire when Odo Ocker
took it over it was already
it was already rather
rather gone but you know
it finally did fall
But something I think it signifies and it shows a wider symbolism of is just I've noticed a seed change recently in the online sphere and our online political sphere.
It seems, you know, a lot of post, I'm not going to name names, but like a lot of posters who used to be great have been kind of emulating themselves on the timeline, making themselves look like fools, you know, just, you know, not even necessarily selling out, although you could say there's an element of.
of that, more so just kind of becoming
their own memes.
And the quality
of the timeline, to say nothing of
Elon's innovations,
of the fact that
only 30% of India
is on the internet,
all these other things.
I really think that
there's a seed change, a major
we talk about vibe shifts. I think there's a
vibe shift happening in our sort
of online political sphere as well.
And this is something that's
signifies it. Do you gentlemen see what I
see? Do you agree, disagree?
Yeah, I'd say it's a changing of the guard really,
to be honest. Some people
have lost their
niche, or it's been so long since
the thing that gave them their rise to prominence
is kind of run out.
And what, you know, what Zach Frisbee here in the comments
said is, you know, much of Twitter
is now 4chan, basically.
you know, people are, there are some people who are getting banned, but I mean, it's not like it used to be.
Yeah, I suppose that is true.
Around 2016 time frame, that's when, you know, like the, really the golden era of posters is when that started.
And yeah, you know, all the people, that was when all the, all the people of all the various forums, you know, whether it was the Salo Forum or others, just decided to step out of their little niche hidey holes and come into the light on this great public agorum.
that was Twitter and now it seems like people are starting to go back into the other way.
They're starting to, you know, they realize that the public square is getting full of grifters
and really just slop and all these other things.
And they realize that the only thing of substance and value will now be found back in
similar niche hidey holes just of a different sort, whether it's group chats or other things.
I will also say, like, if you aggressively, you know, curate your timeline on Twitter against, like, Slop and Grifters,
the Gryfters aren't that hard to spot, in my opinion, for the most part, like, once you've kind of seen it happen a couple times, I've, that's what I've been doing, and my timeline's not, not, not too bad.
Sure, no, I understand that. But the thing is, is the fact that you have to, you know, you have the muted words and the blocked accounts and stuff like that, that you have to put in so much effort.
to curtail your timeline.
At that point, people are just going to go,
they're just not even going to bother putting in that effort.
Most people are just going to delete the app
and go somewhere else where it's,
if there is somewhere else.
I don't think Gab's going to replace it.
Do you think all the 4chan people will move to, like,
Reddit or something?
I mean, you know, there was a time when Reddit
used to be like 4chan, you know,
when it was almost as bad.
And then the left took it over.
Yeah, I think I'll, what was I going to say about, yeah, I think Twitter is, I don't know.
Scratch that thought. I apologize.
Send all the fortune people to Quora or something like that.
No, absolutely.
But, you know, with the sort of seed chains that's happened, and I really, what I think it is, I think it's because.
posting existed, it was created in 2015 to get Trump into the White House.
And it did.
And then when Trump was removed from the White House, it was given a new lease on life to keep the fire alive until Trump came back and then get him in the White House a second time.
And now that we have gotten him in the White House a second time, I think people are kind of, you know, it's like, you know, when a great crusade comes to an end, you've achieved.
your goal and it's like okay well now what and lots of people are kind of left pondering is like well
you know what's my whole raise on detra for posting in the first place most of what i complained
about has been either either is being addressed or you know is not relevant anymore and you know
when you have that kind of lose of momentum loss of momentum rather uh especially when you you know
you get the big man who fixes that's unfortunately that's just how right wangers think is they think in terms
of get the big man in who fixes things.
And, you know, that can work.
And with Trump, it seems to be.
But the problem is, is when you lose that raison d'etra,
you know, it's like you want to go back to grilling.
You want to go back to normal life, to normal hobbies,
to not being politically involved in it.
And unfortunately, I don't, I think that's the wrong response.
I think that's a horrible response.
I think even doubly so because this week,
a leftist wrote something about,
all of us that I think is very telling as to where they are right now mentally off of their defeat.
Well, I mean, you know, the question, one of the questions about this whole thing with Fortune is,
who did it and what was the purpose of it? You know, was it a left kind of movement who's
fighting back against, you know, Trump being elected? And, you know, remember, they may not be saying
this, but I mean, the last president of the United States said it, you know, anyone who would even
think to not only support Trump, but not call Trump a fascist, is their enemy. They consider
you to be the enemy. It's a very Zionist kind of idea where you're, you can't just be, oh,
you know, well, I'm, I'm kind of neutral on Israel. No, you have to actually be, you have to be pro, pro-Zionist, or you're
consider their enemy. Well, these leftists, whatever you want to call them,
communists, socialists, insane progressives, they,
they're not going away. And we have some that are, you know,
actually openly and publicly saying, okay, well, these people who support Trump or,
you know, support his policies, don't even have to support Trump. When do we start
killing them. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah, and here's
what I want to say to people, too. This is a message
to everyone who saw that.
And everyone who had the,
their immediate reaction was, oh, this is a
theater kid. Oh, this is, if it came to it, you'd never, no.
These, the theater kids were the ones killing
priests in Spain.
These are the people who do this.
okay you don't the the homosexuals they're the ones who do it okay they're the ones that get radicalized
they're the ones that have nothing to lose because they have nothing in the there's no legacy for them
if you don't take this seriously you're i mean as far as i'm concerned you're not part of
you're not part of anything i'm building because these are the exact people who start this kind of
thing. And these are the exact people who pull the trigger on old ladies and pull the trigger on
priests and nuns and dig up nuns and disinterned nuns and mock their bodies. And as, you know,
I mentioned earlier and, you know, Paul and I did an episode a couple years ago,
there is violence coming in this country. I don't think it's going to be cover the whole
nation, but there is going to be pockets of it and large pockets of it.
and if you don't believe that,
if you're looking around and you don't believe that,
yeah, I don't, I don't really want to have any,
I don't know that I can even, you know, call you,
you know, comrade or friend.
I think it just comes down to the fundamental thing
of never underestimate your enemy.
Simple as that.
They might, they might be a pushover theater kid
if they actually fight someone that's willing to fight back,
but until that happens,
they are the most dangerous threat.
Yeah.
I mean, like, for me,
something that I've been really frustrated with
the last few years is
a lot of people I know
will use the, oh, he's a weak little theater kid,
or oh, they're like, you know,
not going to fight us because of their soy lattes
are going to run out.
Then they'll, like, surrender
or whatever the hell the weird boomer cope is.
Like, there's plenty of other examples
of, you know, leftists basically saying
we want to kill you and we're looking for the perfect
opportunity to do it.
And there's plenty of examples.
where they've actually like engaged in this behavior.
And it's kind of one of those things where it's like, they're telling you what they want.
They're telling you who they are.
And you're sitting here like sticking your head in the sand saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's, you know, it's like, that's how you end up as a, as part of the casualty figure of shit hitting the fan.
Like, do you do you, do morons think that just because these, you know, that their anti-second amendment stuff thinks that they want to take guns away from the, no, they want to take your guns away.
They don't, they want, they want to use guns to kill you, all right?
Like these weak theater kids can pull triggers and can be taught to shoot just as well as anything else, right?
You know, in my five years of service in the National Guard, I have seen that you can teach just about anyone to shoot very quickly.
It is, it can be done in an afternoon.
If you have the ammo for it, it can be done in an afternoon.
It doesn't take a lot of ammo, right?
you can teach anyone to shoot you can teach anyone to drive a tank you can teach anyone to pilot a drone
like what what is missing is will right and the fact that you know i look at this article and i look at
this this individual right um you know who looks like a complete winner uh based on based on his
profile but you look at them and and you know like if you haven't been listening to
the stuff pete has been doing on the spanish civil war you need
to be. If you haven't been reading Mystery Grove's articles on the Russian Civil War and what
led up to it and the social milieu that was in Russia at the time and before the time, you need
to do that. I know a lot of people meme on Mystery Grove. I get it. But read his frigging
substack. Read the articles he writes, especially about the Russian Civil War and the Russian Revolution.
right? It is extremely similar to today. The apathy, the mistrust, the media manipulation, the presence of certain groups of people, right? These are the people who, you know, they were the commissars. You know, there were black American commissars in the Bolshevik army. There were Chinese commissars in the Bolshevik army. There were women commissars in the Bolshevik army. There were women commissars in the Bolshevik army.
Read about what Nestor MacKno and the Black Army did in the Ukraine if you want to turn your stomach inside out.
These are the people like Mr. Decker here.
These are the people who currently inhabit a country with you and have a moral imperative within themselves to kill you and to rape your children, to do all of these other horrible things to you.
believe that is their moral imperative. And if you believe it cannot happen here, if you believe that
war can never touch this continent, it's touched it before, if you believe that civil unrest,
that these people can't go out and, and, you know, God forbid, organize, God forbid take over
existing power structures that are friendly to them, because, oh, we have no power structures
in the United States. We have no bureaucracies
in the United States that are loyal to these people.
Oh, no, none at all. None of them who
we don't have people who carry guns who would
happily turn them, you know, whether it's
out of apathy or out of genuine belief
on us or other people like
that. You know, oh, no,
the military is going to defect. Will it?
Will it?
Look at this.
Look at this on the screen.
Right?
Look.
You have to understand just
because we've gotten Trump in the White House, and just because we've got a friendly administration,
you know, in Russia, there was, I forget the name of the guy who was elected the reactionary
prime minister who had this knee-jerk reaction. I think it was 10 years before the Russian
revolution through a bunch of special courts. He was able to very competently stop this
revolution immediately. I don't think you all realize how the future that we,
were spared from by Trump having that last minute head turn in Butler. I don't I don't think that's
registered to people yet. You know, things just kind of go on as they have been. You know, you go to work
every day. You get your paycheck every week. There's food in the grocery stores, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. And you think that that's never going to end. And you think that nothing's
going to be required of you, that you aren't going to have people come and threaten you. And that,
you don't have to be building things to prepare for that,
building networks to prepare for that,
indexing with people to prepare for that.
I'm not saying that,
I'm not saying it's going to be the apocalypse,
but what I am saying is that if you believe,
if you believe that things are just going to be hunky dory
and that the leftists, you know,
are, you know, these people,
who have castrated themselves chemically and have no future
or who are homosexuals of any variety
or who are, you know, die-hard communist
and believe, you know, hook, line, and sinker
in everything that the communists have been putting into this country.
And that's, you know, you could blame that on some other groups too.
Since, you know, they moved their world headquarters
to New York City in the 1890s,
and, you know, if you don't believe that all of that
isn't going to come to a culmination,
isn't going to come to a fulfillment,
then you're not in reality.
Things are coming.
The OGC and other organizations
exist to prepare, but things are
coming, and you must prepare.
If I may be,
what we'll probably see is just more
chazas. If you, everyone
still can remember
May of 2020,
um,
As we're coming up on five years of that, it's...
They might have been poorly organized.
They might have not been armed the best, but they still shot at anybody that threatened them.
How many people died because of Chaz?
It was a color revolution.
There was a color revolution in this country, and people don't want to accept that.
I will respectfully not necessarily disagree, but...
like the left does have organized groups like
Antifa and Chas and all that but
you know especially in
like I know in the send like Georgia there's like
armed black militia groups like I think it's the not
fucking around coalition is what they call themselves
like you know and a shit hits the fan
scenario like if like their gloves really came off
those people would definitely go crazy
well I was going to say I've
I've seen a most professional
documentary grade 30 to 40 minute long videos on YouTube
where they've interviewed the Socialist Rifle Association of Philadelphia
Socialist Rifle Association of Maryland chapters
you know you may laugh that they're shooting in the desert
and they can't hit anything to save their lives at 20 feet but
they're training that should be the scary thing
also people will you know people on our side will be like well
You know, they won't come face to face.
They won't do anything to you.
There's no...
What's your defense from an ambush?
What's your defense from you going to the store
and someone walking up behind you and putting a bullet in you?
What's your defense except to always,
you know, always be watching your six,
and that's a hard way to fucking live.
But, I mean, if this kind of...
If they keep whipping up this kind of
fervor going forward, then you may have to live with eyes in the back of your head if you're
somebody who is public.
Somebody who's, you know, his name is out there.
And also, you know, you just have to accept the fact that you're a partisan in this fight
and some partisans don't make it.
One thing that also, go ahead.
One thing that also worries me is that law enforcement, especially at the federal level,
doesn't really seem to take these groups as seriously as they do, you know, a bunch of idiots who just want to, like, go shoot guns in the wood and talk about, like, base stuff.
And what I'm starting to worry about is, you know, what's out there that we, like, don't know about just because no one's really looking for it, if you know what I mean?
Like, I don't know.
I see these kinds of people, these kinds of groups as a very serious threat,
and their capacity for the kind of damage they could do in a shit-hit-the-fan scenario
should not be underestimated.
And in case you think that's a scenario like that isn't likely,
Trump's world economy reorganization with the tariffs,
I think, you know, maybe he's not going to,
going to
maybe he's not
going to fully commit to that, but that's an indication
as to how fragile
our current supply
chain based existence
is.
You know,
even if they're interrupted,
even if they're slightly
stalled, you know, what is it?
Like the civilizations three mills away
from collapse, right?
Even if you have a temporary
disruption of food going to places,
you start, you start,
you start seeing
violence
and I think we'd be
lucky if it was just a bunch of chazes
because you know
but why was chas
not why was chas allowed to continue
existing and
was given all sorts of social media coverage
why was the national guard
you know was
why did Trump not send
the national guard to
eliminate it because I think Trump was
was Trump still president at that time
I was in basic training when Chas...
He was.
That was...
Okay.
Presidency.
Yeah, so I missed all that because I was at basic training, funnily enough.
But, but, you know, who...
Who...
Why was the National Guard not sent in to basically get rid of this, this...
theoretically, this revolution against state power, this setting up of an alternative state power?
because it wasn't an alternative state power at all.
Like Pete said, it was a color revolution.
Chaz was purposely set up or was allowed to continue existing.
You know, whether it was purposely set up or not,
it was allowed to continue existing.
And it was given all kinds of media coverage all over the country.
It's a demoralization technique.
It's meant to demoralize.
It's meant to show, oh, there's nothing that we can do.
There's chaos and anarchy in the cities, et cetera, et cetera.
I don't think they have that kind of power anymore because by the grace of God,
Trump is in the White House.
But the fight is far from over.
Everyone, you know, since Election Day, everyone's been like, oh, well, what happened to the left?
Where's the left?
You know, what's going on with the left, et cetera, et cetera.
And I've said things like the left is in shambles.
And in a lot of cases it is, but, you know, like any army that's shattered,
that has its morale broken and loses a major battle, they can regroup.
They can reorganize it.
They can hit you again.
And Trump is not.
People think because USAID has been,
we don't know what USAID is doing.
It was turned over to the Secretary of State.
We have no idea.
But that doesn't matter.
George Soros doesn't need USAID.
Bill Gates doesn't need USAID.
Billionaires you've never heard of don't need USAID.
All they need to do is find a way.
And I know of certain.
ways that you can move money around that's just untraceable and not just not just cryptocurrency.
So people are sleeping on the fact that there are groups out there that are planning something.
And, you know, it's hard for us to believe because, I mean, most of us are sleeping soundly at night
not worrying about anything.
Sure, we might have a gun next to the bed.
but you know that's that's for
you know that's for the intruder
what about the mob
and then you know
somebody in the comments is going to be like
well that's why I have that's why I have 30 round
magazines
okay well you know and you shoot the first one
and the rest of them scatter
until they don't
they didn't do that in Spain
so
be prepared
So on that, it's very important to study the Spanish Civil War and the Russian Civil War as examples of, you know, because they're so close together, and I know they're in different countries, different cultures, different sizes, different people, but the circumstances which led to them were so similar and the outcomes were so different.
it's important to study both um you know like that was at kent state that was the
that was the net by the way kent state was the national guard's finest moment everyone just so
you know um what are what are the chances that they ended up i mean except for that one
poor r o tc guy that got killed he was he was he was just you know he was just walking um
but for the rest i mean man anyway um dude i can i can i can jay
host every live stream, and that's probably what's going to get this demonetest.
Whatever.
But specifically speaking to Spain, right, to what you talked about with Spain,
what differentiated Spain from Russia is that the military was, number one,
like the communists, I think, in the preceding years, were more or less sideline from the
Spanish military, and they were not allowed to penetrate.
at least the high levels of high command.
And number two, under Emilio Mola, there was a very decisive coup and grabbing of ground
that was done by a variety of bull.
And a lot of generals who just kind of acted on their own initiative in a unified front.
This did not occur in Russia.
In Russia, the response by the military was very disjointed.
There were all kinds of infiltrators.
But it was so well done for the Spanish that they,
were able to airlift the entirety of Franco's elite
Moroccan army from the Spanish Africa provinces
into mainland Spain, which proved to be the
X factor for on the ground confrontation.
And the reason that I believe that the Spanish
nationalists, the side of truth and the side of
sanity, were, by the grace of God, allowed to be
victorious in the Spanish Civil War was because of the competency and the professionalism and the
unity of force within the military, which leads us to our final topic this evening, which is
recently one of my favorite things that Trump has done since starting was appointing Pete
Hegsef as Secretary of Defense. I think it was one of his most, I know he was a Fox and Friends guy.
I get it. But if you look at his combat record and you look at what he's done,
He was leading a platoon in Iraq.
Or was it Afghan?
It was one of the two.
But he was an infantry platoon leader.
He still serves, or I think up until being appointed,
Secretary of Defense, he still served in the National Guard.
You know, he has been known for his extremely radical views
within the Department of Defense community.
And I think that's why Trump picked him, you know,
just simply because he was a well-known military man with radical views.
and he's done a lot of great things.
For example, he recently raised combat standards,
and we talked about this in another Pony Express stream,
but he raised combat standards for combat units,
physical fitness standards,
to the male level universally.
Females now must comply with the male PT test,
which is a soft ban on women in combat
because they just simply, it's standards they can't meet.
So what you're seeing is,
on the lower levels, in the front line units,
you're seeing a massive increase in quality.
I heard he recently cut something like 90,000 officers out of the U.S. military.
Like, he's ending their contracts and things like that.
This is excellent.
This is great.
But what our story that we're specifically talking about is I believe that there was some leaks
that came from the Pentagon as to what they were doing from very high up general staff officials
that were discovered.
And I believe some generals have been fired because of that.
well the
we knew there was leaks we knew that
they had to be
they had to be found we knew
that they were embedded
deep and
I mean at least we know some of them
but I mean the
when you take into consideration the deep state
these people who work at the Pentagon
and you know they no matter who's president
they work there the same at the state department
the same you know the entrenched
deep state, we have to assume that there's, it's still leaking like a sieve there.
So, you know, there's a lot more work to do if it can be fixed at all.
And I'm, you know, I'm of the opinion that it can't be fixed and we're, you know, I know where
we're headed and I think that's what the OGC is all about is getting ready for that.
And that's why we concentrate on local chapters.
Sure.
no yeah i recently listened to a to a biography of colonel john boyd who is a very well-known military theorist and military strategist he was a fighter pilot who flew in korea and in vietnam and later on he created uh
i think he created one of i think the more revolutionary works of military theory and his patterns of conflict brief uh you know everyone you might know him for udalus
but um but you know colonel boyd most of his career was spent in the pentagon uh as soon as he
as soon as he finished up his uh days as a fighter pilot trainer and stuff like that but most of his
days were spent in the pentagon and it was mostly spent fighting the post-war bureaucracy
particularly in the air force but in other branches as well uh that has a massive
itself in this building.
Right? So this building,
you know how Aron says the purpose
of a system is what it does?
The purpose of the Pentagon
is to buy weapons
because that's all it does.
It buys weapons. It doesn't matter
what the weapons are.
It doesn't matter how well they work. It doesn't matter
how strategically viable they are.
It just buys weapons.
And that is its
only raison d'etra.
and the problem with it is you have the high command from the Marine Corps, the Army, the Navy, the Coast Guard, the Air Force, all in that one building.
And they're all closer to each other.
And they're all closer to each other than everyone else.
And they're all closer to these defense contractors.
And they have congressmen backing them, backing one branch, backing another branch, et cetera, et cetera.
If you listen to this book about John Boyd, there's a lot.
There's a movie, I think, called the Pentagon Wars that's indicative of this, about the,
pretty sure it's about the, I haven't seen it, but I know it's about this.
I think it's about the creation of the Bradley.
But when you look into the creation of these, of these multi, in some cases,
multi-trillion dollar defense projects that like all lead to nothing and you see the graft
and the corruption and the lies and the, you know,
this is what this building exists for.
It's what it does.
It has spawned up the richest,
it's like four of the richest counties in the United States
just for people who exist to serve the economy
that emanates from this building.
And I highly recommend that book.
It's called Boyd by Robert Corum and the movie The Pentagon Wars.
I haven't seen it, but I know it's about that book.
whoever if you ever if you go watch it and you know me you can send me a message about it
um
was it by by chance was did a mr field house tell you to read tell you about boy
yeah so yeah i suppose i suppose you could say you could say something like that
um but um but anyway like this is this is also like this is the world i grew up in
is the economy that this building emanates.
And military reform, the United States military,
I know I've been talking for a while,
but I'm probably going to,
anything you gentlemen have to say,
but the United States military,
it's still the most powerful military on earth.
Don't get me wrong,
but it is in a very bad place,
a very bad place,
and it starts at the top.
So one of my favorite things
that Hegsef has been saying that he's doing,
and even like with these leaks,
I think even he's starting to do,
is he's firing these generals.
He's getting rid of them, right?
Because, you know, you know this, Pete.
The reason that the Spanish army was able to react so strongly
to what happened in 1936
was because of the unity of the high command
or at least enough unity amongst the high command to react for it.
Yes, absolutely.
And if something like this happens in the United States,
I hope to God that we have at least enough of a high command,
a high command because, you know, like, I'm not saying, I don't want to start speculating,
but I would like to have something similar if something similar was attempted here.
And I genuinely believe in hope what Mr. Hegseff has been doing, Secretary Hegstaff,
I hope that he is able to do everything that he wants to do because the military, you know,
it's not that the military is incompetent, it's that it's politicized. It's that it's politicized.
it's that it's politicized to serve certain bureaucratic interests
would serve certain ideological interests
and I don't know if he's going to get all of it
I hope he gets all of it
that is the biggest issue that I'm afraid of
well yeah that's
I think we've talked about that before
is that
the
double-edged sword of trying to get our guys in the military
where
you know we have
people who are loyal to
America
but also
you know, when you look at the
high command, the generals and
the wokeness and the
oh, I need to examine my
privilege and, you know,
when you understand that a general
actually has like a fiefdom
all to himself,
you know, the culture has to change.
It's just like society. I mean,
the military is just a society and the culture has to change.
So, yeah, if it comes down to what we think it's going to come down to,
and the military's there, you know, going back to the nationalists in Spain,
yeah, the military high command and the generals,
I mean, there were generals who sided with the nationalists who just sided with the nationalist
because they felt that they had to,
and their inner loyalties were to the other side.
that's how strong
that's how
what a tie
how tied together they were
but
you know in a situation like this
where we're at right now
and especially after
80 years of this
poison
just this
you know this absolute occupation
that we've been under
if it started tomorrow
who the hell knows what would happen
no I I hope to God
it doesn't start tomorrow
but I don't think it will
I think we have at least some time.
Yeah, there you go.
There you go.
You know, these are, as you see, these are, you know, these are white guys.
There's a black guy there.
But these are white guys.
These are, you know, fighting aged men.
Look what they're holding, you know.
Yeah, they're in the Air Force.
Okay, the Air Force kind of sucks.
But, you know, that's a multi, multi-million dollar killing machine behind them.
You know?
And just, you think that just because they have.
these political beliefs, they all of the sudden
stopped knowing how to kill people?
Don't be foolish.
Mr. Cook, Mr. Frost,
we've been talking for a while.
Either of you have any judgments on this,
on the state of the military and what Mr. Heggseth is doing.
Well, I was going to say this.
The Democrats really misjudged the situation
because Obama did a very good job of,
I don't want to say purging the officer court,
but he did a good job of clearing house of our guys
between 2009 and
2016.
And Republicans, it's almost like we don't
want to play the left's games.
Like, if they have given us the precedent,
we've got to use it.
We just have to.
And
Trump didn't go after the officer court,
and he wondered why
orders weren't followed of pulling troops out of Syria.
Because the people that were there
had the vested interest and were committed to the cause
and we're willing to do the
I'm not going to compare
keeping U.S. troops in Syria to the
Spanish airlift, but
completely disregarding the head
of state, as you said, the sole
body of it is done through the executive.
Troop placements are also done through the
executive to a degree, and that was
under his purview because we don't have a
signed declaration of war
against Syria, so they had no reason to be there.
They're willing to,
they've already shown that they're willing to play by
their rules.
throw them all out.
What was it?
How the heck...
Remember the guy who graduated West Point
that the...
The guy who was in...
He was apparently a ranger
with the CIB and everything.
It's insane when you think about it.
The left got that far.
The only issue was
is that they didn't...
They didn't count that the Republicans
would do anything crazy
like run Donald Trump
because frankly, if you look at the rest of the field
from 2016,
anybody else would have lost.
Allow me to insert something real quick, right?
The Republicans didn't run Donald Trump.
Donald Trump ran the Republicans.
And that's something I want every single one of you to internalize.
There is no organization other than Trump right now.
This is a mystery grove point,
but I'm going to happily repeat it.
There is no organization other than Trump right now.
Without Trump, there's nothing.
Trump goes away, our whole counteroffensive goes away, our whole ability to apply pressure to these people,
to take away their funding, to put them in prison, right? It goes away.
Do you, what you think, you think, you think, you think, you think, you think, you know,
maybe you could say something about Vance, I don't want to, I want to withhold judgment on Vance,
but you think, you know, Tulsi Gabbard is going to stay the way she is.
You think that this whole coalition that's been forged together by literally the force of will of one man,
you think that's going to continue?
No.
No, it's not.
The OGC is a great organization, but it's still more or less in infancy.
There's only so much we can do.
Join it right now to help us, but there's only so much we can do right now.
these people have had decades
decades
almost a century to organize
with explicit
legal support with legal funding
they have
whole packs
that exist
look right here yeah
they have whole packs
yeah this guy wasn't just some
just some guy either he was like you see right there
that thing at the top that's a CIB
he I believe that before he went to West Point
he was a ranger I read up on his store
I think he was in 75th Ranger
which is an extremely elite unit.
He's not just some guy.
You know, he's not just some, some college kid.
This is a dude who had been in for a while, you know.
And in elite units, mind you.
You think that I have, I know I have anecdotal things of friends of mine
who have been in Green Beret units and stuff like that.
And they know people exactly like this guy.
You know why?
because extremists tend to be attracted to extreme things, and we do not have a monopoly on the extremist camp.
And these people can learn how to be physically active and fit.
So, but, you know, to bring this back to my point,
I'm going to bring up an American example.
Take Bleeding Kansas.
Bleeding Kansas, which was a fight over the statehood of Kansas and whether Kansas was going to be a,
free state or a slave state, right, due to something called popular sovereignty.
Kansas was mostly populated by settlers from Missouri, which was a slave state,
southern-leaning slave state.
But the northern abolitionists did not want another slave state to be allowed.
So what they started doing was they organized.
They started funding people to move to Kansas, to set up towns.
And then when the, the Missourians kind of knew what they were,
they were doing, they went and started attacking them, started burning their towns,
et cetera, et cetera, and it got violent.
And the Missourians were, you know, better trained.
Individually, they were better.
They were cavalrymen.
They had horses.
They knew the terrain.
But it didn't matter because the abolitionists coming from the north had organization,
had money, had funding, had, you know, legal support in case, you know, had friends
in Washington.
and so they were able, they won.
Kansas was a free state.
And this is, this is the same atmosphere we in.
We are the Missourians.
We are not, we are not the Northerners moving.
We are the Missourians, or at least like them.
Individually, we're pretty good.
You know, individually, we're pretty, we're pretty skilled, but we don't have organization.
And we don't have, even, you know, we have the OGC, and that's something.
But, you know, compared to what they have, they have.
decades. They have all kinds of money that you can't even dream of. They've got people within the
armed services, within the intelligence. Yeah, John Brown right there. Yeah, exactly. John Brown was
birthed, was birthed from Bleeding Kansas, right? And what did that lead to? You see it right
there on the screen, you know? This is the thing, I know, I know I've been on my soapbox for a while
and I probably should bring this home in here because we're getting close to two hours and we've got some super chats to read
and I'm going to let any of you gentlemen add anything on after this before we go to super chats but I'll bring it home here
without Trump without all of Trump's marshals we have nothing the leftists they have been hurt this is the first big defeat they've gotten in a very long time
but they have reserves of menpower, of money, of capability, of talent.
They've got it too.
And we need to wake up and realize that you can't just go back to grilling,
you can't just go back to your video games or whatever else.
You need to understand that the counterpunch is coming.
The bigger counterpunch.
Trump in 2020, yeah, that was.
unprecedented, but you ain't seen nothing yet.
Right.
I think that, you know,
I wrote some articles a few years ago,
and I'm not going to tell you what they were about,
but I wrote some articles a few years ago
that I felt then, and I'm starting,
and I went away for a few years,
but I'm starting to see again now,
is I don't think we're just going to get out of it that easy.
So pray to God that we can use this time that has been given us to prepare, to get ready,
and pray that Trump and his officials can do whatever it is that they can do to rip out as much
and to set up as much as possible.
But be ready.
Because things will be required of you.
It would honestly shock and terrify you the complete and total lack of imagination and courage
and understanding of what time it is that permeates the place that I work
and the people that I work for and work with.
And there's, there's, what is it?
Amongst the young guys, there's hope, but they don't have control.
So, um, Mr. Frost, go ahead.
Oh, I was going to say, I mean, and again,
my entire lifetime has been one giant, I'm going to say black pill effectively.
up until
recently?
Like,
I don't know if anyone
remembers the Bundy Ranch
standoff back in 2014
where it almost got real close
to another Lexington and Concord level event.
That was just
government v. people, not just
leftist partisans.
So it's,
we've had close calls.
We've gotten lucky.
This
amount of time is
been a gift. Let's not waste any more of it.
No, wars don't happen because they're rational. Wars happen because people believe they
can and they want them to.
All right. Pete, you got anything or should we go to Superchats?
Let's go to Superchats.
All right. So, imagine my lack of shekel.
Well, I guess I have to because you're giving us money. For $15.
He says,
rip 4chan
really going to miss the schizo posts
from government contractors in Antarctica
about 25 foot tall spider demons
wiping out the entire special forces
security detail in football stadium-sized
U.S.Os in the Caribbean
vaporizing incoming
Navy aircraft. I think he
yeah
yeah I
fortune man
it was a special place
um
melon for five dollars he says
4chan strikes me as something that was set up as a weapon or honeypot by evil people
but held the seeds of their destruction.
Many such cases with the works of our opposition and the opponents of God generally.
So true.
No, yeah, 4chan was a major vector of, as I think Pete, you mentioned this,
4chan was a major vector of intelligence operations from a certain group of people.
100%.
Yeah.
It was also a great vector of learning truth, but, you know,
El Fempley
for five bucks says
On Easter Sunday
We get the end of month three of this
45 months remain
You have to keep this in your mind
If things go bad
Yep, this is true
We've got 45 months left
El Fempler again for five bucks
He asks
Pete, have you read or streamed
About Antonio Gromsky's prison notebooks
Very good insight into the goals of the enemy
I have not, but I know the perfect person I can do that with.
Yeah, I think, Mr. Pete, I think that's something that you should look into because the tactics have not much, and the strategy has not much changed.
Well, the right keeps falling for it and, well, the right won't fight.
They won't use the same tactics to fight their enemy.
And we could make all kinds of discussions about that as to like whether that's a constitutional difference between the type of people that make up
the left and the type of people that make up the right.
What the right does,
and like Trump is a great example
does, what the right does is they
wait for some kind of
great man
to come along and, you know,
every so often they are rewarded
and that's when they make their stand is when they
have the great man.
Unfortunately, it doesn't always work for them.
General Vrangel
in Russia was that great man.
Unfortunately, he was too little too late.
But in Spain, when General Mola and then I think General, who's General Mola?
Do you know General Mola's second in command?
Because it was both him and the second.
It was Marshall San Girozo, right?
Or however you say his last name?
San Giro crashed.
So yeah, both Mola and San Gersho died.
And Franco, who's third in command, you know, that's the thing, right?
This is the thing.
This is another great thing as to the Spanish army.
The chain of command was clear.
It was very clear.
There was no difficulty in who the succession was.
this was not the case in the Russian army.
Colchak took over in a coup,
but there were like five or six generals
claiming overall command.
And it was,
even when Vrangel was given overall command,
at that point,
it was too late.
So this is,
this is a flaw amongst the right,
is that we wait for great men to come along
to kind of fix everything at once.
And it,
you know,
the left is just simply more consistent
over a longer period of time.
You know,
we can do great feet.
in a very short period of time.
And typically that's when we win.
I think the reason the nationalists,
the reason the nationalist war was just because of the lightning operations
in the first few weeks of the war.
You know, they were able to grab so much so quickly
that the,
and the socialists just,
they just didn't have the,
the edge to beat the professional trained military forces.
But it still took a while because they had the bodies.
So this is the thing,
is it's like,
is it's like the right,
wins through speed and through excellent coordination, but we're a glass canon. We are a
glass canon. If you don't get it right the first time immediately, like the Confederacy, you know,
the Confederacy could be described with three words initially very successful. And that could be the
whole of the right described in three words, initially very successful. And that's something we all
need to keep in mind.
You got a lot out of here.
Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Well, I was going to say, if I may interject,
the Spanish, I'm no real expert
on the Spanish Civil War, but I've read a little bit.
The Spanish left was very similar to
the Russian right in the Russian Civil War.
That yes, were they,
I'd say that, frankly, they were the ones
initially successful because they were controlling the political
scene and the political violence, at least
five years before the conflict began.
They...
But they were very weak. They couldn't agree.
They couldn't come to a who was in charge.
Same with the Russians, the white Russians and the Civil War.
When pressure was applied, they crumbled.
Granted, with enough guns and tanks from the Soviets,
anything can be propped up for a few more years.
But that fundamentally was a difference,
because they were infighting while trying to fight,
the Spanish right
you know
Orwell wrote about it
that was the big issue
the Russian
white army also experienced the same issue
it's it's equal parts
the you know
coronation but also just
fundamentally the tucking away of egos
and that is
I'm going to say a universal thread that
we on the right
sometimes
we all dream of being the great man
but sometimes you just have to put the ego
away and accept you are
at a certain level
and sometimes you get presented with, oh hey, your promotion
because two guys ahead of you just died.
I think that's very insightful.
Specifically, that one sentence you said
they're everyone on the right dreams that they can be
the great man. I think that is something
that very much does work against
us. And you're all right.
The putting away of egos is
something I think that very much
is that I think does the OGC
does very well
but how many organizations are like us
that almost none and that
that should scare you
yeah the right in Spain you had
you had the military you had the Falun Gay
and you had the
the carlists
and they
basically they were the reason they won
first of all God
second of all
they put aside their
their differences
and they
they all were different people
and the
left was just as split between
communist anarchists,
left libertarians
um the
the Republicans which were on the
left and they could
they couldn't come together they
they would like if if
if they were in a battle together and a left
libertarian fell
uh the anarchist would laugh
so yeah so and
the right
in this country right now is if, I would say, the real right is just as fractured as the left was in Spain.
And, you know, at the very least, the left is currently in civil war between its more moderate faction and it's a more progressive faction.
I don't think that's something that's gone away yet. But the radical faction is absolutely making moves.
and the radical factions maintaining a sort of unity.
Particularly, I think with the story we didn't cover
about the horrible thing that happened in Texas,
with those two high school students, they have...
The N-word!
Yeah, exactly.
They're doubling down.
They're not giving up their ludicrous ideology.
And I think that is a unifying factor for them wrong as it is.
and it's something that we need to look at
and we need to
join the OGC.
If you're somehow,
if you're one of the 399 people still watching this
and you're somehow not in the OGC yet,
figure out how to do it.
Right?
And it just, it's like,
I don't know of anyone else right now.
I'm sure there are people out there.
I know the John Birch Society is doing very well,
but we need to have this
glut of organizations, these redundancies, the way that the left does.
And we need to do it in a way that's above board and that has sticking power.
So you got a lot out of your super chat, Grinjy.
There's always one.
All right, moving on.
Solid Snake, 1964 for 10 U.S. dollars.
He says, evening gents, late again, but I have a good excuse this week.
I was celebrating Holy Thursday Mass tonight in remembrance of the Last Supper and the institution of the Eucharist.
On Saturday, I'll be finally confirmed.
Blessed be the Lord, have a great Easter to all salute the OGC.
Well, thank you, Solid Snake, 1964.
Congratulations on being confirmed.
I hope it was edifying for you.
Congratulations, brother.
All right.
Ballaro 393 for five U.S. dollars.
Rest in eternal peace, Austin Metcalfe.
indeed.
Alam McIntyre had a great stream on the difference between biblical and therapeutic forgiveness.
Yeah, I think that's something I think that needs to be spread,
that needs to very much be talked about in great details,
that forgiveness means nothing if you just give it to them after nothing.
Forgiveness must follow repentance.
Celebration and grift are not repentance.
May justice prevail.
I completely agree.
I completely agree.
I know we didn't want to cover this story for obvious reasons
because, you know, I don't think the good people who watch this need to see,
need to have, need to be reminded that horrible things like this happen in this country.
Yeah, exactly.
Absolutely.
They don't need to be reminded that horrible things like this happened in this country.
But, no, I believe God will judge this family.
I very much believe God will judge this family for what they've done.
He already has. Look at him.
Yeah. I hope he saves the rest of us.
Oh, my goodness.
All right. Well, I believe that things like this will stop one day very soon.
And then finally, last super, or not last super chat.
kosher Don Bacon for 10 bucks
says,
salute gentlemen,
I just learned to internet tonight.
Well, congratulations.
We're very glad that you've found your way here.
Thank you very much for your patron, sir.
And then the last super chat that we have this evening,
unless someone sends in a quick buzzer beater
when we go to Final Fons and Shilling
is from Inquisition Railroad for $5 with no text,
just a $5 gift.
Thank you, Mr. Inquist.
Position Railroad. And thank you all of you who have super chatted. These small amounts of money
really do go a long way in keeping the club running and allowing us to do those things that we
need to do to keep this brotherhood alive, grow this brotherhood, and prepare for what's coming
for the future. So God bless you all. And a matter of fact, thank you to all of you in the audience
who have substack subscriptions with us as well. We're very grateful for that. It really, that
is really what keeps the club running.
Your super chats are also very great.
So thank you all very much.
Gentlemen, actually starting with Mr. Pete,
you have any final thoughts?
Anything we've talked about this evening?
No, just stay vigilant.
I mean, relaxing at this point is a huge mistake.
Yeah.
I mean, get together with people of like mind.
be ready to come to each other's aid,
no matter what it is.
And that's the way
collectivize or die.
Absolutely.
That's the stage we're at.
Absolutely.
Mr. Frost, do you have any final thoughts on anything we've talked about this evening?
Just a wrap-up of general ideas from this stream is just
we're on the precipice of either greatness or absolute catastrophe.
We cannot rest on our world.
We cannot wait.
The Civil War was able to drag on for two bloody more years after Gettysburg
because Meade didn't instantly move to defeat the Confederates
that were in slight disarray before they fled back to Virginia.
We can't afford to let that happen.
No.
No, we cannot.
And finally, Mr. Cook, thank you very much for coming on this evening.
Do you have any final thoughts for anything?
Um, no, not really. I think it's a pretty good discussion tonight, and I wholeheartedly agree with the points everyone raised before me.
Outstanding. All right. Finally on to Schilling, Pete, what you got?
Piquino show, petesubstack.com. That's it. Just released an episode. There, this just released an episode with Thomas. We're starting a series. It could go for a year on.
Continental philosophy.
We did, this is our,
just, just released the introduction episode,
and we didn't even get into Thucydides and Pericles
and the Peloponnesian War.
It's just, just an introduction,
and that was an hour, a lot more to come.
Outstanding.
Mr. Frost, you have anything to show?
The only thing I can show is,
if you're in Eastern PA
somehow if anyone is still in Delaware
you know Eastern part of Maryland or in New Jersey
and you're looking to join
go to the website there is our email
reach out
also if you're on the western half of the state of PA
we have the Pittsburgh chapter that just spun up
they've been added to the website I believe
and
you know keep an eye out if you're in Central PA
it's not there yet, but they were at the event.
So keep an eye out for if that chapter
finally crosses the finish line and you can join up there.
There's no real excuse.
There's no dues yet, so it doesn't cost you anything.
It's kind of not...
It's got to show a little discipline, and that's it.
Outstanding.
And then finally, Mr. Cook, do you have anything to show?
I've just got two things.
my personal substack, I will be releasing some pretty in-depth articles about the 1864 Overland campaign.
So doing reading up on the Battle of the Wilderness to start that endeavor.
And then a friend of mine and I have started a substack called the Capital Collar,
where we'll be trying to bring OGC guys and the right in general,
the inside scoop of what's going on underneath the dome.
from within the dome, I could say.
So, yeah, please
give those a follow, and that's
all I've got to say.
Outstanding.
Yeah, and I
very much enjoyed the article
that you wrote for the OGC very
recently.
They shall not grow old. I thought it was
wonderful.
Thank you.
Yeah.
All right, gentlemen,
thank you very much for joining me this evening.
Thank you all who are listening
for joining us this evening. Thank you to all
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