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Some of them have been cleared out by, you know, riot police. This is at UCLA. They were clearing guys out now recently. look at these like fake phalanxes they're making with like their their cardboard and their desks from classrooms and such and you know it's just like the brave riots in the 60s and everything so what do we have to say on the ongoing campus protest gentleman because there seems to be a an open dialogue this week by many guys in our sphere about you know questioning a little bit of doubt if we should be getting involved in this or not what do you guys have to say about that

I mean, I wrote a piece on this today. I got out pretty early with my opinion on this, that this is internecine warfare on the left. There are no winning sides for the right here. Everybody involved hates us. Everybody involved wants to see us destroyed. With the things that they're destroying are the left's home field. These aren't people running through your hometown,

burning down your building, attacking your church or whatever. These guys are, you know, rioting against each other on college camps. So worst case scenario, what? Like some kids don't get to go to like hate America 101. Like they don't get to attend that class. It's just, you know, the blowback is minimal. It only, the casualties are all leftists in this. And it's a situation where the only thing that can really save the left from this horrific embarrassment

is having the right involved themselves. The right is involved in breaking up the protests. As unfortunately, we've seen a lot of Republican governors, want to get involved in doing so. If the right is involved in, you know, trying to support one side of the other, then all it does is create a scenario where there's a galvanizing enemy

that the left can redirect against. And so instead of the agitation that is inherent to a critical fault line inside their unstable coalition, we create a valuable enemy for them to rally against. And so it just doesn't make any sense to me to get involved. Like just, just for once in our lives, you know,

You know, you've got the Gomja bar at your neck. Just act like a human being. Can have enough self-control to recognize that there's no win for you in the situation by acting. And the only way to win is to not act and simply watch these people destroy each other. I think it's pretty much straightforward from there. Oh, no, not the universities. Right. Anyway.

So what about, what about those frat boys, though, defending the American flag? as Pete Buttigess, one of our best super chatters asks, well-timed, sir. He says it seems too evident of a character, and it gives him W. Bush, that is, and America vibes. I mean, what do we think about this famous picture that's going around of these frat boys defended the American flag for those leftist protesters? Well, you know, I'll come at this from a former frat boy and such. And I remember during the 2016 campaign, actually, my fraternity when I was in college actually made it on Drudge Report at the time because they showed up on the opposite side of, you know, on my campus at the time. There were a bunch of leftists that were putting up a fence around the library, you know, basically criticizing Donald Trump's wall, right? They're saying, oh, this is horribly racist and you can't be putting up walls.

This is terrible, right? And so eventually there was a clash on the campus of, you know, the frat house versus a bunch of the dysgenic leftists and such. And basically, you know, these guys in the frat didn't have like, you know, well thought out political opinions. None of them had read, you know, much of right-wing philosophers or anything like that. They just had a very basic gut reaction of this is my country, this is my land, and I'm going to defend it. And you guys are intruding on this and this just isn't right, you know. And so I guess from that kind of angle, I mean, that's kind of what you want, right? you want that kind of base reaction from, you know, people in your society say, no, this is wrong.

We should be defending, you know, our flag. We should be defending our traditions, right? So I guess from that angle, I'm like, well, I can't really expect these guys to be deep philosophical and political thinkers, right? I think their instincts are correct. Whether it's tactically sound to do so is up for debate. But the thing is, though, someone took that picture and posted it on the internet. And we saw these smirking frat boys defending the American flag. So obviously we saw this picture.

That means we have to go all in on their side now, right? And support the, you know, the Zionist side in the protest, right? Obviously, I'm being, I'm joking here. I think you have a very good summary there, Red Hawk. You know, at best it's like, oh, yes, it's nice that there are still some people left on campuses that have that natural reaction. but it really doesn't change the formula that are laid out a few minutes ago. You don't take a side on this at all.

You use it as an opportunity to talk to your friends, talk to your family, talk to whoever you can, to remind them that either these people or people like them were setting fire to cities in 2020, and the police stood down and let them, that over 30 American citizens were murdered in the streets in 2020, and the police didn't lift a finger to help them. And you point out that the police are in there now stopping these people when they're basically doing about 10% of the damage that, you know, less than 10% of the damage that happened in 2020. And you point out to them, you ask them why.

Why would they be doing this? Who are they answering to? What are these protests all about? And then you start talking to them about, you know, the power that the Zionist lobby has over this government. And I think that that's probably the best thing they can come out of this except for both sides, you know, tearing each other apart, is to expose what we've all, you know, what many of us have been talking about for, you know, me in a couple decades. And, you know, just to go from there and use it as a, use it as a tool to show who, you know, really controls power and who really controls the, you know, the, you know, the, the stormtroopers and who the stormtroopers really are here to defend in this country.

They didn't defend white people in 2020, yet they're defending another group in 2024. And you ask the question why and try to get the ball rolling there. I think the guys standing for the American flag is actually a good thing. I think it actually cuts through. It's a little bit of a Caesar moment where you have these two sides, right? and all they care about are foreign governments, Palestine, Israel. We're having a war of factions about countries that have nothing to do with America's interests, have nothing to do with what's good for the people of this nation.

And then all of a sudden, you have kind of this symbol, this hated symbol of, you know, kind of these frat guys. And what do they do? They're the ones, the only ones, prioritizing the American flag. While these two sides are screaming at each other about, you know, their ethnic blood feud from some foreign country. These guys are protecting the flag of the nation. And I in general don't think that right winger should involve themselves in these protests.

I think when, for instance, I think it was on one campus. Yeah, they used a fraternity to like clear out the Palestinian encampment. I think that was a mistake because that does actively, you know, that's actively the frat guys taking an involvement in one side and clearing out the enemies of another side. And that's a mistake. But I think this image and the Red Hawks exactly right. I'm sure none of them had any kind of, you know, here's my tactics.

Here's my political training. Here's my optics and my philosophy. They just saw the country that they loved and a symbol of that country under assault. And they went over and protected it. And I think that should be lauded. It's not you have to, it's important to be tactical. It's important to be thoughtful. But you also need to recognize that sometimes action is key.

And these guys acted in exactly the way they should. They didn't support one side or the other. They protected America and America first. And I think that even though some people might try to create that as a polarization in one direction or the other, I think it comes out as kind of a stark contrast to this otherwise completely foreign conflict playing itself out across American campuses. There's so much rugby on Sports Exeter from Sky, they've asked me to read the whole lot at the same speed I usually use for the legal bit at the end. Here goes. This winter sports extra is jam-packed with rugby

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I think it just hammers the point that you just made or on further home just look at the demographic makeup of who's holding up the American flag, right? It's all white guys, which just hammers the point home even further, right? These guys are fighting for their own interests, standing up for the symbols of their own country, and everybody else around them is begging for them to take a side. I'm just like, no, this is ridiculous. I don't want this on my campus.

Now, tying into this story as well is the ongoing debate of what's going on in the United States House of Representatives, where there was a vote that was just passed recently. modeled after much of the same anti-Semitism bills that are going around in states that we've covered on this show, such as Florida, Texas, and South Dakota and such. And, of course, this passed with a supermajority in the House. So what do we have to say about that, again, at the same time that we have all these protests going on, now they're going to push this legislation through? What do we have to say, gentlemen?

Well, this is really one of the worst pieces of legislation I've ever seen, mainly because not because of sort of how it's being advertised, but because of how broad the definition of anti-Semitism being used in the bill is. If you actually go read the bill, it's extremely short, and it references right to this definition by the IHRA, I think is the name of the organization. The State Department has been informally using this definition

of anti-Semitism for some time, for their own internal reasons. And to sum it up, the definition of an anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism is a certain perspective on Jews. And that's literally all the definition is. So the problem here is that in terms of how this applies to the Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which covers discrimination in the Department of Education, it basically will allow the government to declare anything they want to be anti-Semitism, which is obviously a huge problem.

You don't outsource your law to see. some international organization, which is exactly what this organization that came up with the definition is. You don't do that. And you don't place such broad concepts that can be easily mutated into law either. Yeah, Charlemagne and I were talking about this. And he raised the concern. And I think he's right that initially the reactions to the bill, a lot of people overblew kind of what it does explicitly, as if you're going to be like, snatched off a street corner for saying you disagree with, you know, Nen Yahoo, which is not something it does. But what it does is is very nefarious. And

in the reaction to it, whether entirely, you know, factual at its beginning, was sufficiently kind of justified in its passion. Because really what this bill does is it manipulates civil rights law, which we all, which all of us know has never had any problems and has done exactly what it was intended to do from the beginning. It has never expanded to have any unintended consequences since its inception. But really what it does is it sets a precedent like Charlemagne said that you have this international body with a very loose definition. So you have sovereignty outside the United States to a body that, you know, that does not seem to have any, it doesn't answer to anyone. It has no relationship to the United States or

people and no restrictions on it. And its broad definitions can reach into pretty much every aspect. And even though the bill really only directly impacts the educational system through civil rights law, as we know, those rulings have implications far beyond it, i.e., you know, Barack Obama's dear colleague letter when it came to trans bathrooms. And so it can become very, very quickly, if power is aligned in the right direction, a ruling in civil rights law can go from being a narrow thing that's only supposed to apply to specific organizations and situations and situations to apply to every corporation and every business

and pretty much every public or even semi-private institution inside the United States. And it's very clear that this bill is basically designed to do exactly that. It's a wedge into civil rights law that will create a manipulation of procedural outcomes that will ensure that eventually every organization in the United States will fall under this incredibly broad rubric of defining what is anti-Semitism that can then be punished through federal law. And again, I doubt very many people would go to jail. Very few people would be in leg irons for criticizing Israel. But what is far more likely to happen is that every business, every school, every single organization in the United States basically removes any possibility for criticism, any access even to things like the Bible in certain religious texts because they could end up creating a very, very high degree of litigation. And that's really the way to shut it down is the law fair through civil rights law is actually what will silence the expression of any opinion.

that are not deemed regime approved throughout all institutions in the United States. Do you think this is something like when they ATF does one of their white papers on, you know, rifle braces or something like that? It's not something that's going to be enforced until somebody does something and then they look and use it as an add-on as, you know, to add it on to the charges just to, you know, maybe make the person seem a lot worse. You know, if it's something, I don't know, if it's out there protesting, you know, Israel, something like this. And then, oh, well, we heard them say this or they wrote this in a blog post.

It wouldn't be like a direct charge, but it would definitely be something that they would try to add on to it. Yeah, it'll definitely be like a hate crime modifier for sure. That's exactly what will happen. Something that's a relatively minor charge will be magnified. through the federal penalty. But even then, I don't think that's the most important implication of the bill. Because as we've seen and, you know, as I will be explaining for everybody who wants to read

my new book, The Total State, which comes out on May 7th, you know, the administrative state and the application of these managerial kind of setups is the key, right? Like, that's the real chilling effect. It's not actually locking people up. It's not even extending their charges. So obviously the people stuck in things like the January 6th trap are feeling that pain for sure. But it's really not the gulags that you have to worry about. It's the complete chilling effect that ripples its way through every institution due to the financial and litigious implications attached to the bill.

I think while some people might spend a few more years in jail because of this, ultimately its real impact will be the desire. of every institution to basically just smother any wrong opinions or any criticism of Israel in the crib because of this. Right. Like you look at what they just did to V-Dair and, you know, this bill covers anything that's funded by the Department of Education. So this isn't just like school teachers and stuff. It's anything that is funded, federally funded basically by that department is now subject

to what will be presumably shortly law. that prevents discrimination based in this extremely broad definition. And that's just getting their foot in the door. And, you know, no one's going to want to risk having their critical funds cut off by stepping on, you know, tripping over this new type of discrimination that's very broadly defined intentionally so that it's, you really have to go out of your way to avoid it, which is what they want. And, of course, it's, you know, it's a foot in the door to apply this elsewhere. Because, okay, so for now, this law is just adding it to the rules that the Department of Education must follow, you know, on the basis that there's discrimination against Jews on campuses.

So we need to pass a law to protect them, whatever. But of course, well, if you can include this definition in discrimination only in relation to Title VI, well, why shouldn't it be included elsewhere? Because, you know, we don't like discrimination, right? So the entire Civil Rights Act needs to be modified such that, you know, this definition is included in any definition of discrimination. And then, of course, that now you're going to be looking at your funds being withheld, not just if you're under the, if you're taking funds from the Department of Education, but literally all NGOs. So it's just going to be starving your opposition of funds, you know, by that chilling effect you described. So it's really the foot in the door aspect here with this. this very broad definition coming from an international organization.

And like I said, if you go read the definition, literally the only concrete thing in that definition about what anti-Semitism is, is a certain perspective on Jews. That's literally the definition. They give a bunch of examples of how that might express itself as hatred or other accusations, but it specifically says that it's not limited to that. So the definition is literally just having a perspective on Jews, is what anti-Semitism is, which is absurdly broad.

So if that gets in and it's not challenged in higher courts, possibly up to the Supreme Court, then of course it's going to be brought in every single place they can in the Civil Rights Act and beyond. Well, of course, and such a huge part of this, as we know and how the system works, is the lawfare is the punishment, the process is the punishment, right? And you're talking about how this is being sponsored by the Department of Education, right? I mean, back to our example, we were just talking about a short while ago about our,

about our frat bros, right? You know, I mean, that falls under, in some cases, classification of, like, Department of Education, right? So maybe in the future, you know, it's like the ever encroaching HR lady, right? Like, people tapping people on the shoulders like, oh, well, do you really want to be doing this? Do you really want to be showing up to these campuses and these protests? Do you really want to do this?

this could be, you know, classified as anti-Semitism to some people, right? Well, it's just something that's going to be sitting in the background, like a miasma, that they could just whip out any moment from their, you know, their buffet of things I like to charge people with, right? You know, it's like, it's like just one of these side dishes. You know, this is like the cranberries, right? You know, it's like, oh, well, we could slap this on top of you, right? So we just know how these people operate.

What do we have here? This is the definition from the, from the bill? Yeah, well, from the bill, I guess, the bill references this. This is from the website or State Department's website about what that specific definition as of 2016 is. It's this right here. And as you can see, if you read the second sentence there, it describes manifestations of anti-Semitism. Right. But it doesn't actually define anti-Semitism.

Anti-Semitism is only defined in the previous sentence. and it's really only that first clause that I kept hitting on. That's literally the entirety of the definition. And so effectively anything, anything could be anti-Semitism. Like if you have a perception of Jews, that's anti-Semitism, according to what will be federal law. Has real emanation from the penumbra vibes there. It's entirely tied to the zeitgeist.

There's no real terms of art involved here. there's nothing legally binding in any real sense. This is all spirit of the age, you know, ruling from the state of exception. But everyone is in constant violation of this because they have some perception of Jews and therefore it's really just up to the people in charge as to whether that perception is currently in violation or not. This is this is not a law. This is an edict of managerial control. what's really strange is I because the guys want to discuss it on an episode this week I forced myself to listen to that Dave Smith chink yugar um chink we or whatever his name is um Dennis prager and cacha whatever blah blah and debate oh i'm sorry so yeah it don't even don't get me started so many of the the things that Dennis Prager was accusing Dave Smith and Shank Ugarh

are like things that I've seen in this bill, like blood libel against Israel things. I mean, it's remarkable. It's almost like he wrote it. And yeah, nobody listened. Nobody listens to that unless they just absolutely want to make themselves insane because there was barely anything logical. I mean, when you make Chink, you know,

How do you pronounce this last name? Does anyone know? Is it Ugar? Or Ugar? Yeah. I refuse to pronounce it correctly on principle. Yeah. If you make him sound sane, there's something wrong with you.

Let's just put it that way. Well, you were mentioning Dennis Prager right there, P. But at the same time, you've got your, you know, Matt Walsh's of the world and also like, even like senders, like like Josh Hawley and such, like announcing like, oh, we got to march into these universities and clear out all of the. protesters immediately and of course it brings up the question every time particularly in like josh holly's case it's like okay well where were you pal during the summer of love in the summer of floyd so so not to not to step in here but i will give him credit because he actually was there

josh holly was the guy who got the editor of the new york times fired because they ran his uh editorial calling for the national guard to shut down the blm riots so so so not to give Josh, a free pass here. But he is at least, yeah, he is at least consistent in calling for the end of riots with the use of the mills. Yeah,

fair enough. Fair enough. Matt, Matt Walsh, you know, can we say the same? Particularly given the makeup of the daily wire and their stances that they'd be taking on this whole issue since,

you know, October the 7th, but we don't need to have rehash up, Ben Shapiro's opinions once again on the show. But, Jens, do we have anything else to discuss? Like, so TLDR, we're still saying, you know, people shouldn't really get involved.

Don't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake, of course. And especially in an election year, man, at 2024, I mean, like, how often do we get gifts handed to us like this? Where the left is just going in a complete civil war and people want to go in and like jump on this grenade for him. I mean, come on, man. Not to mention, I mean, I assume that these like riots and protests are just going to naturally break up as like the college semesters, you know, are. out. You know, I mean, like they're reaching the end here, right? I mean, these kids have got to go back home. So I imagine this kind of thing is going to burn itself out to some degree.

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conservatives, you know, I know Arn's been talking about that word on his show. The conservatives, you know, we know they're not right. wing. The Republican Party isn't like a right wing party and neither other like Zionist protesters on campus. They can like try to pretend like this is a left versus right issue, but that facade is pretty quickly, you know, being lifted. And we, everyone kind of knows what's really going on here. So the last thing we want to do is is give them legitimate right wing, like genuinely right wing targets to associate with the, the pro-Israel side. That's what we don't want. We want it to remain a left-on-left conflict that cannot reasonably

argued, cannot reasonably be argued to have a political character of that sort to it. All righty, jents. So, remaining on the topic of, you know, feckless conservatives and, you know, they just can't help but say we've got to stand on my conservative values and lose gracefully, right? Let's talk about this character, Mr. Eric Erickson.

Now, I got to confess, I was not familiar with this guy until this recent dustup came about. I have no idea about this guy's background, but let's just say he was going off on, you know, did he use the term that stupid, who's that guy, Constantine Klein or whatever his name is, that woke right term that's getting thrown around all the time. Well, I mean, it's like the same thing.

All these like establishment conservatives are pointing to. It's like, well, if you win, that's against conservative principles, you know, to put a fine bow on it. So what do we have to say about this guy? Yeah, I mean, I did an episode kind of playing this and tearing it apart, but it's, you know, Eric Erickson is one of these natural view guys. He was part of, he was on CNN. He was on Fox News. He's a respectable, you know, a neocon political commentator. And like so many of these guys, he, you know, he was never Trump until it became clear that Trump was the future of the party and, and, and had, and everyone had converted. And then he became, okay, reluctantly Trump. And then the minute he could, he immediately switched back, many such cases. And so, you know, his response is, you know, I can't believe we're being taken over.

There's all these people who want big government. They want the government to enforce their agenda and their, you know, their way of life and their vision of the good. And it's just, it's just the most asinine view from nowhere version of conservatism, you know, oh, well, there's this moment of kind of objective institutions and neutral institutions. And we have to go ahead and maintain them. And if we don't do that, then our enemies might use power against us. God forbid, you know, at some point, who knows, they might even lock people in jail for memes. You know, just this kind of stuff.

It's so wildly out of touch. It's so incredibly tone deaf. And most importantly, it's so incredibly just ignoring everything about reality. And you can tell he's just ruled by an ideology. I generally, I know a lot of people are like, it's all money and it's all, you know, know these people are all getting you know uh i guess envelopes with marching orders and these kind of things i don't think that's true i think it would be more comforting for that to be true uh the sad truth is that a lot of these guys completely buy into this stuff and and yeah it's tied to their

income and and their their employability and stuff but at the end of the day i think eric eric ericson has completely internalized this idea that conservatism is an ideology about you know free trade and defending, you know, the current American empire and these kind of things and has completely abandoned even the Burkean understanding of conservatism, which is that it's about protecting a way of life and traditions and the people. And so they've just, they've completely abandoned anything that would be good for the country, any application of government power or force that would benefit those that they're actually supposed to represent.

and instead they're married to this idea that very much make sure that they will lose in any given confrontation with the left. And the fact that he's still holding this up and pretending like this is some kind of principled level of conservatism

while watching the country literally just burn behind him is just insane at this point. Pete, would you like to give us your thoughts on ideology? Well, what's interesting is I remember Oren having I think he was on Dave Smith show like a year ago or something.

And Orrin had brought up that a lot of libertarianism is adopted by conservatism and adopted by the mainstream and then used and distorted from its purest form because, you know, the pure form's not going to exist in reality. And you see that here. What he said about if you increase power, you know, the next person will use it against you is a libertarian talking point from day one. And you just, you see how this, how they've adopted some libertarian, like they've, they've taken quote unquote, the free market and they've fooled people into thinking there's a free market. They'll never be a free market because libertarians want this, you know, unfettered free market

with no, no strings attached, no government. even and then they just trick people into thinking oh this is what the free market looks like and everything and you get nafta and but this is just the same thing it's just it shows you how this worthless and weak libertarian ideology gets adopted into like conservatism how they become almost one in the same and then you have somebody like this who's just like no I mean I don't care that my trans grand kid is going to be loading me onto a box car for you know, the tweet that I put out in 2013, no, we can't, we can't increase power. We can't use power.

No, I mean, these people, they, they suck so fucking bad. Well, it's like, who's, who's arguing about small versus big government at this point? I mean, after the, after the whole pandemic thing over the last few years, it's like, there's no question about whether or not we're going to have small government. We have big government. That was already obvious, but just in case it wasn't, after the pandemic. pandemic, we have big government period. The only question is, who is it going to

crush? Is it going to crush us? Is it going to crush you? Or is it going to crush them? That's really all that's up in the air at this point. This whole thing about a small government, like it's the turn of the 21st, the turn of the 20th century. It's

just totally bizarre. It always feels kind of lame to hold up individual people like this as an example. But it's like read a book, man. I'm literally holding, not even just as a prop, they just happen to be here. I've got Carl Schmitz, the concept of the political in front of me and the crisis of parliamentary democracy.

Like, read a book, dude. Like, what are you doing? What you're saying doesn't even make any sense. Yeah, I, I, you know, I hear really Charlotte made it. It's amazing to me. I spent my entire life as a talk radio conservative. You know, I really am very new to this. I kind of did the speed run here.

And it was 2020 that blew my mind. when I look at the libertarians and the conservatives in my life, it spent their entire time I had ever known them telling me that, you know, when tyranny came, you know, that the Constitution and all these things, these checks and balances would protect us.

And it was key that you got to keep the government small so that stuff like this doesn't happen. And, you know, I saw what happened. I watched all these people make excuses for what was going on. And then the most amazing thing, the thing that truly broke me,

The reason I, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, you literally just watched the world, you, you, you, you know, I, I, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't ask any questions, you, you, you, you, you just continue to repeat exactly the same bromides you had before this whole thing happened. Like, am I taking crazy pills? Is this, like, how can you do this? And the answer was, you know, what, you know, you know, is just that these guys, there really was no other frame for them to interact with the reality they had. And so even though their current frame just was completely unsuited to map the reality they had, it was the only frame they had. And they would rather cling to that frame than try to reevaluate. And so, you know, that I get where guys like Eric Erickson come from.

I understand how they still exist. But even the average person, even the average GOP, Trump, you know, Fox News viewer is asking these questions at this point. Like they like hopefully we're giving them a frame that does map onto reality and does give them an understanding that is more realistic and does explain the world around them. But even these people are asking these questions. And so the only people left still holding that incredibly old and broken frame are guys like Erickson who, you know, spent their entire career on it and they, they can't turn around and say I was wrong because then like the whole, the whole, the whole.

game is open. They're not going to join in and, you know, point out all the ways that everything they said for decades led to the right being a complete disaster that failed, that there's no value into that. So the only thing we can do is cling to the sinking ship. You know, this whole discussion that we're having here about the mental framework of some of these regime conservatives reminds me very much of an overlapping concept we have in the RP spheres. And the concept is called zeroing out. And essentially the issue is, it's like, okay, say for example, a guy has been in a relationship for 15 years with his wife, has like three kids, finds out the wife has been cheating on him for such a long time. And so often when guys get to that point, they'll go what we call

zeroing out. And a lot of times guys will, you know, self-delete in this circumstance because the framework in their brains is it's just such a huge leap for them to go through to face up to the fact the last 15 years of their life have been, you know, basically for not, you know, they thought they were living a life and it's been a complete lie and the prospect of them having to restart from ground zero essentially to get back up to where they need to be is just simply too much for them to bear and they take a permanent solution to a temporary problem, right? And I see a lot of that, you know, not necessarily to that much of a degree with some of these regime guys, but they're just so deep at this point that you're right, Aaron, they can't turn it

around. They can't say that they were wrong. Their whole career would be for not. Their whole identity that they've based themselves and how they conceptualize themselves in the world would be for nothing. So they have to continue doubling down. Yeah, I mean, this is a cringe as he is. Scott Adams identifies this basic concept of cognitive dissidents really well. It's extremely difficult for human beings to take that step and basically question their entire mental frame. and for whatever reason, people like us seem to be more able to do that. And, you know, why, I guess it kind of doesn't really matter,

but that's the step he's not able to make. And, you know, I guess I can empathize, like, why it's really difficult to do that. But the fact is one of the reasons, you know, Erickson and people like him are so frustrating is, is because he's basically wasted his entire life on this. all of the money, all of the talking points. It's not only just wasted. It's actually counterproductive. And, you know, here we are trying to get, you know, messages that actually have value to them out in terms of political strategy. And you have these guys up here like Erickson, you know, basically- They do the left job for them. Exactly. That's why it's so frustrating is to just watch the complete waste and counter-predictivity happening with, you know, millions and millions of dollars behind it.

Yeah, absolutely. Any other final comments, gents, before we read through some super chats and move on to the next story? Sold. All right, let's start going through a couple of these real quick. Our good friend Seneca sends us $3. It says, came for the news, stayed for the bass, orchestra music. Yeah, I tell you, man, you know, shame on you guys in the chat who put those stupid little time stamps in every comment section saying, oh, this is where the actual stream starts.

Absolutely not. You guys should be listening to that music. It's part of your heritage. part of your country, which is why we keep it there. And I find it quite soothing. You guys can't wait five minutes to listen to some fantastic Americana. Shame on you. All right.

Pee, Poo to pass for $10. Well, we already read this one, but we can read it again. Unpopular opinion, feel free to roast me. But the frat boys rescuing the flag is rubbing me the wrong way. Seems too evident almost caricature, like and giving me W-era-America vibes. Well, we already addressed that one. I mean, I, you know, we talk about how in a sane world, not everybody would be super politically active. And I kind of apply that to these guys.

You know, they got the right instincts and, you know, maybe in a more sane time, not everybody should be thinking about things in political terms. And only a small elite should be focusing on this and actually steering the country in the direction best for their people. But we don't live in sane times. So everything has to be politicized. But all righty, moving on, Mr. Clockwork sends us. $10. You guys,

especially Pete, Aron, and Thomas Triple Seven are doing Yoman's work. Here's some walking around money. Oppose the bill, outlawing criticism of that ally. It's essential in its moments of truth.

Well, Charlie, maybe you and I could get on that list one day. Yeah. So the guy's doing Yoman's work. But thank you for your $10 just a clockwork. I mean, if it helps,

I learned about all of this from Charlemagne. So I sat at his feet before I started doing what I'm doing that. That's a great compliment. Let's see. I learned it from you. I learned it from you guys. Yeah, well,

we're all friends for a reason, right? Everyone's swapping ideas back and forth, right? Even me here. I'm like sitting on like shoulders of giants, like, man, you know, me with not super political backgrounds, found my way into this.

It sounds very odd. Anyhow, um, uh, chief slinging beef, one of our strongest soldiers. Again, for,

uh, Well, update on my brother. He has now sent a group chat, including my boomer con dad, who loves our greatest ally, naming them. And it was the bill that finally send him off. Hope he's watching right now. Well, maybe he is watching right now. And thank you for coming along, sir. We're happy to have you.

The Pony Express Army grows more by the day. Let's see now. Pee-Boodoo passed again for five bucks. He's in your chat a lot, Oran. Sky makes it around, I think. Yeah, I blackpilled after the anti-Semitism bill passed. literally nobody in power in America even pretends to care about white Christian men grim well uh we do we care about uh white Christian men no there there's a couple of them out there there's some good eggs

I mean uh I liked Rand Paul even though we uh you know disagree with a lot of his uh takes in some things but he doesn't seem like uh he's out to destroy his nation so there's a couple good guys left um let's see moving on again um people to best again for five bucks the anti-semitism bill prove to me that boomer crowns will literally hop over their own kids to offer their enemies their best it's just grotesque yeah i mean yeah well it's like the we covered last week on the show where everyone's just waving the ukraine flags you know and uh in congress as they passed a bill it's like yeah everyone's looting the treasury at this point um uh e h for uh three dollars the brave frat boys are protecting anal studies and the right for young children to gel themselves this is our democracy

We do it for the trans kids. We do it for every flap blob of blue hair. I'm going to push back on this. It's not what those guys are thinking. Come on, guys. It's being pretty uncharitable. All right. Yeah, Orange is right.

I came a little hard on them at first too, but it's like they're just there defending the flag because they instinctually feel like that's what they're supposed to do. I don't think we need to go out of our ways to sort of like, you know, fling that sort of rhetoric at people.

You know, same thing, even with Erickson, I would be perfectly happy if he had a change of heart and came to his senses and he would be welcomed. We don't really want to just like attack people anymore than we really need to purely as a matter of politics. So, you know, let the frat boys be. They were just, you know, they're just frigging like 19, 20 year olds probably acting purely on instinct. We don't have to make a huge deal out of it, I think. Yeah, they're also like the prime recruiting demographic for us, right? Exactly. I mean, how many guys in our audience are former frat bros?

How many guys who are active, you know, speakers in this space are former frat bros? I mean, there was discussion about like reaching out to people on the left and, you know, how everybody's had a pipeline and everything to get where they are now. And granted, yeah, there definitely is some truth to that. But I mean, wouldn't it just be so much easier to scoop up these guys who are, you know, like, they're naturally our dudes, right? I mean, what are they going to do? Go run to the left to hate all white men.

Like, let's be real here. There's a, there's a dangerous impulse for a lot of people in some of these spheres, which is to say that anyone who's not as far down this road as I am is just impure, insufficient. They don't understand. And like, I'm superior to them as they take action because, like, I am online recognizing that, like, they're tactically unsound. I talk a lot about tactics online.

So obviously, like, I think this matters and I care about it. But you need to realize that, like, one of the things that allows you to reach people and to have a wider audience and to share with people things that are important, if that's really what you care about, not just like, I'm superior to this person. I'm just so much smarter, more clever, is connecting with them on their core value and recognizing in somebody that they're on your, side. They have the ants smell. They are they are a friend, even if they do not currently understand the nuances or maybe we'll ever understand the nuances in the way that you understand that a good elite, a good leader is someone who recognizes a friend and cultivates them, even if they don't have like everything like dialed in. And so when you see guys who are going to probably line up with you on most things, guys who could be easily unconvinced and could easily come to

understand your position. When you see them taking an action that is to be frank, brave and makes them a man of action rather than maybe somebody who has all of the books and all of the theory lined up, your job is not to like belittle them so that you can feel like you're like better than your job is to see that and praise that and then turn that towards something that's productive for kind of the wider interests of the people involved. You don't, you don't need to belittle everybody. It's like people who crap on everybody in the military. Like actually, no, you want lions. You need lions. The problem is rule by foxes. Like, but the problem is that all

the lions are currently convinced that they should protect the foxes. And so what you want is not the, you know, the destruction of all lions that would protect foxes. What you want is turning lions to something that is useful and helpful and prosperous for the people that they should be protecting. That's the way you should approach it. You know, on this point as well, I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of irrational normie hate that goes on in our spheres from our guys. I mean, if our ideas are going to win out in the end, just have to accept the fact that there are going to be normies that are going to take up those ideas and aren't exactly going

I do all the philosophical and hard groundwork that guys like us have done to get to that point. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, like, that's a good normie. Like these, like these frappero guys are good normies. These are the normies I want. You want these guys to wear your band's t-shirt. Like, sorry. Like, it's not about being the coolest underground guy for the rest of your life who knows the one cool punk band.

It's about getting this out there. And like that involves exactly what you're talking about. Like, yes. Like, sometimes people. will not understand everything about it. That's okay. Like that's part of winning. Just the purpose is to win, not to be right.

Like so win and be right at the same time. Yeah, exactly. Moving on to our good friend, he is the eunuch for $5. Can't be here live, but we'll listen in the morning. Great lineup tonight. Always glad to hear Charles and Pete.

And nice to have the boomer risk borer among us. Keep Hart brothers. The anti-white regime is losing. And the future is ours. Thank you very much. She is. I look forward to seeing you at the next OGC conference in June. Yiz always makes an appearance and she has fantastic energy at every one of these conferences. So Pete Budapest, again, very generous tonight, sir, for $10.

Okay, just going to say it. Erickson just isn't that bright. The type that got giddy after watching an episode of Firing Line in 1987 and has chased that Oreo cookie sugar rush ever since. Can we get some gold for Pete Budapest there? Yeah, he has given us quite a bit tonight. I think he needs gold. I love gold. Give him gold.

Give him gold. Give him gold. The taste of it, the smell of it, the texture. I love gold. There you go. He does love gold. Uta is 4321 for five bucks. Can you give a concrete example of something someone in these fears has advocated for that you would say is counterproductive?

What about like anything? or about like this specific topic. I don't know. It's kind of a broad question, right? I would definitely say that there are some people who would tell you not to counter signal Israel at this point. There are people in the sphere who are saying that, and I think that that's, well, that's suspect to me.

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you know, stick it to the Israelis, right? And I mean, I've just been sitting here the whole time, you know, isn't the goal America first people, you know, like Americans for American interests? I mean, like I get it. It's really, really awful what the Israelis are doing to the people in Palestine and Gaza. And it really is horrible that they're treating civilians in such a horrible way. But at the same time, I mean, like that, I'm more. focus on American issues. I mean, you know, I'm not going to like take up a sword in arms for foreign country and foreign people. I'm just not going to do it. I'm interested in American issues too, like the press and banking and, you know, the woke and everything. And I don't

think the Palestinians are behind those at all. Fair point. Indeed. Let's see. E.H. Again, for five bucks. Eric Erickson didn't know who he don't know who. Don't know who. who he is, don't care, seems made up. Just kidding. Anyway, I don't listen to anyone

with jowels that large. He's got his free market. It's called an open border. There was a funny comment in the chat earlier. It's like, this guy's a large guy or something. Charlie, you were reacting to it in the chat earlier.

I forget the quote, but some guy had a funny quote. Yeah, he said he wants a small government, but he can't keep himself small. That's funny. Our good, friend, Lou Themplar for five bucks.

Very blackpilled and delusioned over this bill. I find myself hoping Biden vetoes it and then ask why I thought something so silly. I don't think Biden's going to veto it. And I'm pretty sure on that one, buddy, sorry. Pretty sure the Senate's going to pass it too. I mean, I think it's basically a given that this is going to become law, which, yeah, very alarming, very, I guess it's black pill. I mean, I don't know.

I don't generally react in that, like, very, in a legitimately emotional way. I just kind of take the things as they come. I mean, like, this isn't going to affect you in some highly negative way at the moment. It's just another step or another slip down the slippery slope. But I guess we're kind of used to being in free fall at this point. Yeah, indeed. Keep heart, my friend. We'll share a nice cigar and a drink coming up at the conference soon.

and we'll be back amongst fellow friends again. I always find these events to be very white-pilling affairs and kind of recharges your batteries to go back to normal life. Well, all right, moving on. Lou Secell, I think, new guy here for $10. The bill is the biggest white pill. It means the propaganda isn't working anymore. I guess Lou here is taking a different take to Crenchwalker,

glass half full versus glass half empty, I guess. let's see uh pbootapest again for five dollars hey i said it was an unpopular opinion and to go ahead and roast me well we did sir and we thank you again for your patronage as always and finally with the super chats and then we'll get on to our final story of the evening our good friend cider once again as he does every week sends us ten dollars and a salute thank you very much sir i was wondering where you were that super chat was coming a little late this time sir uh but thank you very much uh as always all right gents um Let's move on to our final story of the evening.

And this story is coming out of Louisiana, specifically Baton Rouge, where a community of primarily, well, let's set the stage here. So Baton Rouge, capital of Louisiana, very high crime written city in the past couple of years since December of Floyd, you know, basically broken up into the Baton Rouge area. And now what they are calling for is a new city called St. George. And they actually have been fighting in court with this for a very long time. And they finally came through and it passed. So now Baton Rouge is going to be split up into two cities, one of which being the actual name Baton Rouge, now St. George. And of course, this has been responded with cries of racism, of course, because St.

George is predominantly a white area and the Baton Rouge side is going to be a predominantly black area. And so once again, the argument that we have seen play out over all sorts of American cities throughout the last several decades is gentrification is racism. but also white flight is also racism. So what do we have to say on this, fellas? I mean, this is kind of a heartening thing to see just in terms of actually separating yourself

from the anarcho tyranny, which is all Baton Rouge actually is. A lot of it centers of the school systems there. I actually spent, actually my brother and I both spent a few months in the Baton Rouge public school system after Hurricane Katrina, and that was probably the worst time in my entire life.

So it's entirely understandable why they've been trying to do this. And look, Baton Rouge is a shithole. You can interpret it as a race thing or not. But the fact of the matter is, Baton Rouge is a terrible place. I've spent a good amount of time there as well. And why would you want to be a part of Baton Rouge?

You know, the area of St. George's in is actually a fairly nice area. I believe it might actually, if I recall, it's actually where I lived when, you know, We had temporarily found ourselves displaced in Baton Rouge. I believe we were in that area, although it was a long time ago. And it's a fairly nice suburban area. You know, nothing to write home about. But, you know, of course, why would people want to, no one in their right mind would ever want to live under the government of Baton Rouge's city council and mayor?

And that's really all there is to it. I mean, you can see the pictures right here on the screen if you squint, I guess. It's not an exaggeration. So kudos to them for what looks like a successful escape from the anarcho-terranical government of, you know, Baton Rouge, as it is in many cities in Louisiana and the south. Yeah, you've got that North Korea, South Korea divide there looks like. But yeah, you know, it's weird. I taught in public schools and so much of this does hinge on school districts, which really are just kind of a microcosm or I guess, maybe a better way to say it would be like the purest distillation of kind of the conflict there because

there's because but kind of by federal law you're not allowed to go ahead and kind of just naturally you know have freedom of association the way that many people would just do give it left their own devices and it's very strange because you know working in these in these environments obviously the people in them are extremely liberal like they're just the most radical leftists you can imagine they all belong to these. To these incredibly leftist and progressive, you know, teachers unions, they all have far left radical politics.

But if you sit down and you talk to school administrators, no matter how left wing they are, if you're in a bad school and I taught in like a Title I school in Florida, which is kind of the, you know, you're getting extra money because the demographics of your school are so poor that they, you know, the children there can't afford to like buy school supplies and that kind of thing.

And if you talk to them, they don't even care about educating the children. Like they know they can't like because their bonuses and stuff are based on results, right? They're based on test scores and all these things and all these statistics. And they just, you ask them like, well, how are you going to improve this? How are you going to raise the like the grade of the school? So everybody gets a raise and you know, you get a promotion or whatever. And their answer is, oh, you can't because of the demographics of the school. And so literally at one school they taught out, their plan was to change the demographics of the school.

The community around them had changed demographically. So the school had gone from an A school to a D school. And their plan was not to become better teachers or to figure out how to educate the current demography, but was to change the demography to the point where it would actually then improve the school scores on its own. So they're like, well, what we're going to do is turn into a specific type of magnet. So then we can bust in the right kind of. kids and change. So like it's very strange that you know obviously like they'll scream races, they'll scream all this stuff. But when you actually talk to far left people who are on

the brass tax of like, how do you solve this problem? Their answers are the same as the people here in, you know, St. George. And it's funny that I just, I just always find that hilarious that through all of the BS and all the rhetoric and all the ideology, when the money's on the line, You know, their solution is the same as, you know, whatever your, your most ardent right-wing guy. Well, what I find that's so interesting about this case is that you kind of have this going on already in some parts of the country. I mean, we talk about this a bunch with places like Chicago where the north side is basically entirely segregated already. Or my mind goes to a place like a gross point in downtown Detroit, which basically is its only. like walled off community as well.

But it's really interesting how in this case they went through the legal means of doing so. And it was backed by, you know, one of these guys right here. This guy's the main architect of this. Worked real hard. And yeah, it's a big white pill for guys like us who want to move towards, you know, more parallel institutions and acting locally and such. And what better way of doing this than just saying, no, we're just going to found our own community. You know, freedom of association is back on the menu, boys.

Well, let me ask Charlemagne in this because I think I read this in one of the articles that Baton Rouge has been bad for a while. But, I mean, this started 10, 12 years ago. Did they take in almost a million people from Katrina, like people who had been displaced after Katrina, they moved to Baton Rouge? Is that correct? I haven't looked at those numbers in over a decade at this point. I mean, that sounds about right. I know somewhere on that order of people at least went as far as Houston, which changed that city much for the worse. So you can, you know, thank Louisiana for that.

But yeah, I'm sure the population of Baton Rouge probably shot up permanently around that number after the storm. Because a lot of people just kind of ended up staying where they went. Some of the Atlanta suburbs got it too. I was living in an Atlanta suburb in 2008. and we left in 2009. Yeah. Understandable. I mean,

it was a demographic disaster what would happen after the storm. And, you know, understandable why this guy would not want to have his children in the public schools of Baton Rouge. I mean,

I would actually consider it, and I'm not even joking here, it would be child abuse to send children into the Baton Rouge public school system as I experienced it. And I can only imagine. how bad it would be now, you know, nearly 20 years later.

You know how bad it was in the Atlanta suburbs? We moved into the city to get away from it. No lie. Yeah, I mean, I guess the biggest takeaway here, again, is the same drum that we keep beating all the time. And Pete, you definitely do this all the time talking about acting locally. I mean, if we could do this in a major city and nonetheless, less the capital of a state, mind you, with Baton Rouge. I mean, that certainly opens up opportunities

in, you know, other red states, let's say. You know, I mean, what if you were to do something like this and another deep red state, something like, you know, Nashville or something like that, or maybe Memphis, you know, or, you know, I'm just idea balling here. Now, it's, it's very interesting to think about. Well, I mean, we, we have, we have movements that are, you know, I know of two people that if I said their names, you might know who they are who are, you know, becoming a part of a movement to move to one area and, you know, do something. And Warren might know it because he may advertise them sometimes. But yeah, I think that's probably what's going to be the way forward. And Thomas even talks about this. Thomas says that he believes the way forward is going to be like

localism and decentralization. This is really going to be the only way to escape, you know, Leviathan at this point. You know, maybe one day we'll have that prince come along. But until then, I think it's going to be localism. I can't see any other way or,

you know, having a really, really good governor. But, you know, I think Florida and Texas thought it had really good governors for lockdowns. And now with a new law that we saw yesterday, It was probably taken and inspired by some of the things that our favorite anti-lockdown governors did. Yeah, that's a real disaster for the right, is that some of their best leaders regionally are also those who are being impacted and choosing to help set up the architecture that then is used for a bill like this.

That's another thing I'll be diving into tomorrow is the number of governors who had already enshrine. very similar, very similar setups, all referencing the same organization and tying their state's laws to that organization. Surprise, surprise. Who could again? Well, the mayor of Baton Rouge, she has responded to this by claiming, you know, of course, it's racism, but also that Baton Rouge is going to be in trouble because according to her number, 70% of the tax revenue for the city comes from the St. George area. So I suspect that this. is going to be challenged in some way or another, and, you know, the lawfare might commence even more. But, well, I mean, well, that was, that was one of the reasons why Buckhead couldn't,

isn't being allowed to secede from Atlanta. Buckhead is probably in the top 20 richest, uh, cities in the world. Um, when I work there, I knew a lot of people. I mean, there's a lot of old money there too. And yeah, that was what they said, no, you cannot leave because we need your your tax cattle. Yes, and at least in Louisiana, that is one of the things that could prevent the secession from being permitted because that is a legal requirement

is that it basically can't adversely affect the city, you know, whatever that really means. The Supreme Court just ruled in favor of the secession in Louisiana. So I'm sure it will be challenged and appealed any number of ways because yeah I mean they're basically taking all of Baton Rouge's tax revenue and it's going to be a total disaster

I mean Baton Rouge is going to become a total chit hole city I mean it already is but it's good yeah no it's it's going to be totally unlivable but that'll also be a problem though because for Georgetown right because people are going to be fleeing Baton Rouge

to come to Georgetown but maybe that's not exactly the effect you want right because that kind of defeats the whole purpose in a sense but it'll be a really interesting to to see what happens in baton ruse if they actually do finally separate but this this may well still be years out the the actual separation yeah indeed but you know it's it's about stepping stones right you know and uh let's say that in the future this does get struck down well that's another thing that we could pivot and shift to in another state perhaps you know uh ensure that we don't make the same mistakes or something like that

you know, it's very good to see that guys like this guy also uniquely from the fact that, I mean, this guy's definitely, you know what, like a boomer or something, maybe silent generation, you know, for him to be thinking in this manner is pretty impressive for his generation. So at least that people are thinking in this direction is a good thing. And people are actually putting their nose to the grindstone and doing the work, so to speak. So it's a good start. Let's have more of this. And perhaps even you too in the chat right now with your local.

or Glory Club chapters could perhaps do something like this in the far future. Well, these are the kinds of things that we need to start thinking about as things continue to get worse. So any other concluding thoughts, gentlemen, before we move on to the final super chats and wrap up for the evening? All right, cool. Let's move on here. And we'll go through the last bit of the super chats. Chief Slingin' Beef, again, for five bucks. What flag should St. George have?

Maybe a white plane with a red cross, as always like with. row the left had to go further and not compromise with guns. You know, they're never ever going to stop, right? But it isn't like the Louisiana flag, like have a bunch of like pelicans on it or something like that? Isn't it a not a good looking one? I seem to recall. Yeah, it's a pelican with its, what do you call the children of a pelican? I don't know.

But it's a symbol for Christ, basically. It's a Christian symbol because the pelican is feeding its children with its children with own blood. I think that's depicted on the flag properly. But yeah, it's a very, it's not just, ha ha, look, it's a pelican, we like pelicans. It's actually a very old Christian symbol. Interesting.

You know, you know, Ternop Seed and you, Charlie, have talked about this many times. So we probably should do a flag stream of the various state flags of the USA and look through and Andrews Cross here in Alabama. Yeah. Yeah, definitely be worth looking into for sure.

Let's see, Tim Miller for two bucks. Fuentes reinstated today by Elon. I smell shite. No comment. No comment. You know, before we wrap up here, gents, it's just one last thing that we should talk about. Did you guys see this fake AI brown check that the Ukrainians made

to keep updating people on reports from the front? this utter nonsense now yeah yeah there we go there she is yeah looks very Ukrainian indeed yeah that was I don't even know what to think of that to be honest it's like why why do this

just have a Ukrainian yeah it's very weird well they had that um they had like that trune that was uh you know giving people war update fronts and then it got unpopular and they had like the

trans or something in the middle of it, yeah. Yeah, but there was like some really like dark reports of that guy was giving, particularly during the whole Gonzalo Lira thing, like openly making threats to like, no, now they've pivoted to an AIHR lady. So, you know, just in case your, your day was going well, now they're making AIHR ladies to lecture you about what you should think about, you know, politics and war. so I'm sure that will go well.

If they want her to be an HR lady, they need to add about 100 pounds. Yeah, it's just, we're living strange times, man, we really do. What were they thinking about this?

I'm just imagining like, you guys know the stone toss cartoon, and he's like burgers, you know, the guy asking the question. It's like, this is literally what it is. I mean,

it's just the ideology, man, it's global. It has no context. It's not. not, you know, it, there is no, there is no logic that holds it to any particular culture or region. It's just, look, this is what, this is what the world is supposed to look like in the new, like, global empire. And so this is what a Ukrainian would look like.

It doesn't matter what Ukrainians actually look like. It doesn't mean matter what Ukrainians would want. Like, it, like, it's all on autopilot. Like, we're just installing this, we're photocopying this person and installing them into every place in the world. Like that's crazy. Well, you know, the other thing too here is like there's something feminine about this quote unquote woman, right? We're wearing masculine clothes still got that's not a woman. Well, exactly.

It's not even a woman. It's a freaking computer generated 3D model. It's my point. They're not even like making it like it. I mean, it's still got that stupid fucking Ukrainian pin there that they all like to wear. Tomahawk in the chess is the trune of Kiev. Yeah. That's funny.

Um, all right. Well, I felt like we just needed to make note of that real quick about the insanity, uh, that is going on over there. But, um, yeah, we'll, uh, we'll end the stream here, uh, gentlemen. Uh, I will once again point everyone's attention to the old glory club.com where you guys can still get your tickets to the conference. We have a couple of them left, but they will definitely be selling out, uh, by the time the conference is running around here in, uh, five weeks already.

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if you haven't already because as we approach the last few weeks here before our conference at the beginning of June the tickets are going to sell out so definitely get them now if you're planning like coming yeah and it's a very strict no ticket no entry policy

we have to know who is coming to these events and such and we cannot have people who are like locals to the area just show up right? No, you like you have to have a ticket. We're not letting you into the event if you don't have a ticket, period. Yeah, and that's not just marketing speech either. Like they are going to sell out.

So make sure you don't wait till the last minute. Yeah. Pete, what do you have coming up, sir? The Pekino show episodes drop in pretty much every day. PQ.org. Going to be finishing up by reading a Camp of the Saints pretty soon. Probably got another five episodes.

on that, start something after that, and Pete Substack.com. Awesome. And our special guest this evening who will be making a speech and appearing at the OGC conference in June, Mr. Arn McIntyre, thank you for coming on the show, sir. Where can people find more of your work? No, absolutely, man. I'm excited for the event this year. And I'll be doing an episode tomorrow, deep diving in on the new house bill that we

talked about today, going in more in depth tomorrow on my show, Orrin McIntyre. show you can find it on the blaze you can find it on podcast you can find it on youtube and then i have my new book total state it comes out uh on tuesday next week so if you want to go ahead and make sure that you get a copy on release day you have to pre-order it so you can do that on amazon barns and noble books a million all those places all right fantastic and then uh for myself uh check me out on Twitter. Check me out most of my pieces on the OGC substack, most notably my most recent one about the whamming question that erupted once again. And then you could check me out on Sundays with my good friend Mr. Jack Napier for Post Zero. So it's much of the younger

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