The Pete Quiñones Show - 05/29/2025 - Old Glory Club Livestream - Ruh Roh Rubio
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First and foremost, we have Mr. Pete Cignonas.
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Good evening.
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Joining us, we also have Mr. Elfemplar.
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So, and then last but not least, making a very special guest appearance is Mr.
Dave the Desiret.
distribute us. How are you doing this evening, sir? Hey, well, I'm glad to be here for once.
Usually I can't make it, but I'm really happy to put an appearance in.
Well, we're very grateful that you had to put an appearance in. But, you know, it's been an
excellent couple of weeks since the conclusion of the Old Glory Club conference in
2025. It was an excellent conference. I was very happy to be there. I think, I think actually
all four of us were there. And I hope all of you gentlemen enjoyed it as much as I did.
Yeah, we all were.
Excellent. Excellent, excellent.
Yeah, it wasn't just partying and smoking.
It was real discussions about real futures.
Indeed.
And I highly recommend all of you if you have the time to go watch the recap that we did on the O'Glory Club YouTube channel.
It was an excellent recap.
And I think the conference was great.
Made waves like it does every single year.
But on to business, right?
It was a bit of a slower news week this week, but there were a couple of things that
did occur. And I want to bring us into the first story of this evening, which is earlier this
week, Marco Rubio instructed the Department of State to cease all interviews, not just for Harvard
University, but for all universities to cease all interviews for student visas. I personally think
this is a wonderful development. I got what I voted for again award. This is just one of those
little, it's not so little of a thing because these universities are almost entirely funded,
at least, especially the bigger ones, they're almost entirely funded by the money that they
get from foreign students and particularly from the foreign governments that send those foreign
students. But gentlemen, this is kind of the latest in the university wars that Trump has
had with Harvard and with other institutions. But do you gentlemen have any particular thoughts
on either the visa ban or the wider university wars? Well, this is a retaliation for, was
I don't know this fact.
Was this in retaliation for their refusal to end preferential hiring and various departments?
I believe so, actually.
Go ahead.
I was good.
Yeah.
Being an Ivy League kid myself, I believe it was that.
The institutions of these schools are extremely resistant to any cutting off of the cash cow foreign monies.
I remember both of my undergrad and graduate.
There were just these years when you would hear about a deal made with like a so-called sister school we had a program with where they were going to like fund visas or something.
And what that really meant is that they were getting like new buildings from foreign investors.
And you would just have 30% of that year be from that country, a 30% of the class of that year.
It was it was insane the amount of imported people.
And they would just not, their grades would not matter because they're the children and friends of like their special donor class.
it was a complete mess.
Yeah, I mean, that's, it's obvious that there's been kind of a foreign takeover of the university system.
I'm just kind of wondering what brought this on.
I figured it had something to do with his ongoing conflict with the quote-unquote DEI policies at the university.
But that's always hard to tell with these things, I guess.
Another, another excuse that they're using is that the foreign student,
are ones that are participating in the anti-Semitic protests on campus.
Well, we have to draw a line somewhere, Pete.
I mean, you know, we can't.
We can't just have people say anything on campus.
This is getting out of hand.
Well, I mean, just looking at the picture here,
I'm sure that everyone at Harvard and everyone around the country
is happy that the Thai lady boys are out there, you know, protesting
so that international students can come to Harvard.
No, this has been, I don't know when this particularly started, this trend of universities being mostly, I know universities have always had a cosmopolitan bent to them. And I don't think anyone is against the concept of like exchange students or, you know, international students in principle, particularly if you're a global empire, you know, you're going to bring in your clients to go to your universities. This is something I've actually noticed when I studied the history of Texas A&M. When I studied the history of Texas A&M, I saw that a, a, uh, a, uh, you're going to bring in your clients to go to your universities. This is something I've actually noticed when I saw that a, uh, uh,
a couple of Central American presidents, I think one of Bolivia and one of Colombia, I want to say, or Ecuador,
something like that, went to that university. So this is typical for an empire to do, is soft power.
You educate the elite of your client states within your country. And the United States has a long
history of doing this, particularly in Latin America. But I don't know when the trend of the majority of the student bodies being international students.
I don't know when this started, maybe the 1970s, maybe the 1980s.
But now it's gotten to the point that, yes, these universities derive a significant amount of their funding from these functionally guaranteed foreign admissions.
And I don't know.
It's one of the, this kind of reflects on the degradation of academia generally.
You know, it's almost trite to say that you go to college, you don't actually get an education.
and almost everyone
oh go ahead Pete
well
according to Grock
in 2000 in the year
2324 the academic year
2324 approximately
277,398
Chinese nationals
were enrolled in American
universities so they have an army
in here
does anybody else
find that to be insane
yeah they never
say the total number of students
in that specific year,
but I'm curious what percentage
of total students in the school that is,
because that sounds excessively high.
I mean,
in Canada,
there's entire colleges that are just dominated by students from India,
and a lot of these colleges are just fake.
Like, their course work is minimal.
You can do it.
Basically, since COVID,
you've been able to do it almost entirely online,
and they're able to get an indefinite number
of the Canadian equivalent.
of H1B visas to come over from the subcontinent.
Just to give a sense of scale,
I'm running memories now when I was at Columbia.
I was one of maybe five American students
out of a class of maybe like 150 of my program.
Everyone else was foreign.
That's the percentages I remember.
And that was like over a decade ago.
I can't imagine how bad it is not.
Do they just have like the token single American
in the graduate program?
I mean, when we found out that in the D.C. courts, like 30 to 40% of the judges were born in other countries.
I mean, this just basically is the way things are now.
It's we don't heritage Americans, and even people have been here for a couple, a few generations,
there just don't matter anymore.
They're bringing in people.
They figured out this system where they bring in people from elsewhere.
the colleges will do it to make money, but because they can charge them top dollar.
When I lived in Auburn, I lived in a, and this is two years ago.
When I lived in Auburn, Alabama, where is where Auburn University is, all of my,
I would say 80% of my neighbors on my street were Chinese.
I mean, it's just the way it is now.
And it's, there's a lot to worry about.
about there. We have reports that when they fly back, they come for their first semester,
when they fly back, they're immediately debriefed, told that the next semester that they go
back, that they're working for them. So, you know, we have two, potentially, you know, a quarter
a million spies for China in the country. And then we have people like this Korean judge that, I mean,
literally looked like a Jerry Lewis character from the 50s. It was probably one of the most,
I hate using this term, but it was like literally one of those racist things I've ever seen.
This judge just looked like a caricature from like a 50s TV show.
And this guy was born in South Korea.
And he's basically making policy and telling the president that he,
he's selling the president of the United States, he can't do something.
He can't be an article to executive.
If I'm, if my memory is correct, a lot of these jurisdictions that,
They're drawn up by Congress.
Am I incorrect in that?
Does anybody have that information?
I don't have it.
No.
Because I know at least that the Supreme Court famously,
like the Congress sets the number,
or the president sets the number,
the Congress approves it.
So, theoretically,
the president could always expand
or even contract the court by failing to appoint someone.
But I think federal judges,
their jurisdictions might be set by either Congress or Senate.
I don't see why
I remember
they're set by the Congress
Circuit Court Act
Why
Trump has Congress and the Senate
When is he going to just tell them
Look if you want my endorsement for the midterms
You've got to delete this jurisdiction
And merge it with someone who's loyal to me
Like play hard, play hard games
Well I think that's the thing
You know the one we love
We love what Trump is doing
And we particularly love the fact that he does something as radical
as a blanket ban on all student visa interviews,
which I'm sure they may or may not lift quietly.
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and I know
this is a
segment about
universities
but you know
as always
the courts
touch all of it
although on that
This piece of news came out today is that they have ended the American Bar Association's influence on judiciary selections.
The ABA no longer has any say and any special say in who is picked for any sort of legislative or any sort of judicial appointment.
Go ahead.
Was that a law or was that put through by the legislature?
Was that an executive order?
That was a letter from the AG.
Basically, I think the AG has.
Okay.
So it can be overturned by the next president.
president. When you have the House and you have the Senate, why the fuck are they not drawing up
law after law, after fucking law, and passing it to the president and basically making it
so the left can never get in power again? Why is everything being done by an executive order
that can be overturned by the next president? And it's obviously, and obviously can be ignored
because the courts tell them to. That's my concern where it's coming. Trump's, you know,
using executive authority in a way that's that's sloppy and I want to be more organized.
But they've been saying that the bill, the quote unquote big beautiful bill is, it's going to
attempt to legitimize a lot of what Trump's been executive ordering.
But still, it's kind of like a half, like a half-ass effort where, you know, you just have to
like have a bill ready to go when you write those executive orders and have Congress going.
And then start berating them.
Like Trump has a significant popular base.
He should whip them to shape to call their representative.
that's like the this is like the the formal way of doing it like we're still in
formal times where you have the follow these formal procedures but
the courts are overstretching their boundaries and it's it's time for him to start
telling Congress you need to just delete these jurisdictions that are
overstepping they've run their course well I was discussing this with a fellow
member of the club a spater earlier today and
on the I this is something I told him and it's something I'll say again you know
I always have, you know, with leadership, I always think it's better to trust the leadership,
especially if you know that they're your leadership.
It's also always better to give them the benefit of the doubt in the sense that perhaps
they are dealing with information that we do not know about or they have models that are
projecting, projecting something that we don't know about.
Maybe Trump hasn't act.
I can't imagine that the idea hasn't occurred to him.
He surrounds himself with Andrew Jackson and all these other things.
I can't imagine that this hasn't been something he's considered,
or he hasn't had advisors tell him about this,
or he hasn't seen a tweet or something like that.
I can't imagine.
I think that there's something,
there's trying to keep a veneer of normalcy of some sort
that maybe they don't want to cross the Rubicon yet.
I mean, this is the fundamental question of real,
politics is who is worthy of trust.
There's just no way that average people or even people who are relatively knowledgeable about politics and who represent a community can account for all the pieces of information that go into complex decision making.
So the thing that we need to determine is do we trust the given decision makers and who among our current decision makers can we trust the most?
and you know this is this is something that I I see this question coming up again and again and again
regardless of what the context is I mean you also that Jordan Peterson clip where just gets
completely destroyed by these 17 year old atheists that apparently haven't experienced puberty yet
and it's uh you know it the way he lost was he just was he was wishy-washy and he never
said up and said that he believed
in the thing, right?
So, I mean, he was, he came off as completely unreliable.
And that was sort of the more fundamental question.
The more fundamental question is, can we trust you as a leader?
And no one looks at Jordan Peterson and then says, yeah, I can trust that.
Or I should be able to trust that.
He just looks like a complete mess.
And they wouldn't necessarily say the same about Trump because, you know, at least as a man
and at least as a personality,
you can trust that at least he is,
he thinks he's in charge and he's trying to be in charge.
At least that's my judgment.
I'm sure some of you may disagree.
I've made this point.
I think the last time I hosted...
Yeah, that is the judgment people are making.
People want Trump because they feel that they can trust Trump
to be oppositional to the establishment
in the United States government.
And we could argue, you know, can you ever really trust anyone you don't deeply know?
a hard thing to say. But, you know, that is the decision that the American people have made.
And it is, in my opinion, it is sort of like with limited information, it appears to be the
correct decision of all the decisions they have available to them.
Sure. Yeah. And I mean, you know, I know this is a segment about universities that we
spun into talking about the courts and the seeming inability or unwillingness for the Trump
administration to
functionally declare what
amounts to a state of exception.
And
that's the thing is it's like, you know,
trust the plan is a meme.
Trust the plan is
something that
we at the Old Glory Club have
stated before that I personally have stated before.
But the thing is, is like
even our patience has
limits. And it gets to the point
where
does it, how many people in Trump's administration
know what time it is.
Yeah.
And as I've said,
a few times I've been on here.
Like,
I have to keep repeating it.
There's going to be 10 million fewer boomers in four years.
If you're not deporting 2.5 million a year,
you are losing the country per person you don't vote,
don't deport.
That it has to get done.
We're halfway through this year,
and we're only at like 150,000 deportations,
that's less than 10% of what needs to be done.
It needs to like buy a power of 10.
accelerate. Now, maybe when this
big, beautiful bill passes, they'll have the money
manpower to kick that up. But
like, we're talking about a power of 10
increase of what they've been doing so far.
And I don't know,
doubling the amount of money
throughout an agency doesn't seem like it'll
get me a power of 10 response. I've never known
that to happen in all my life of watching
government funding go up and up.
Seems like the efficiency goes down and down, the more
you fund it. So I'm hoping Trump knows what he's doing
in this because, like,
you got to deport like a two million people.
people in six months at this point.
How are you going to do it?
But this is why I appeal to the fact that leadership always has access to information
that just about everyone else or a very small number doesn't have access to.
And they may very well have models that show them how flawed the, what is it,
how, how, how, how, not flawed, how fragile the global system is,
and how fragile the country is and how much a executive choice, a state of exception,
may cause some kind of, how should I say, crisis that no one wants, I mean, except for us,
but once that, like I say, once that Rubicon is crossed, there's no going back.
And I think this administration wants to keep as much of a semblance of normalcy as possible.
And hence, that's why they're, you know, they're trying to be as restrusting.
as possible with these universities, despite the fact that these universities are populated by some of the
most disgusting cretness and, frankly, backwards, quote-unquote, experts that the world has to
offer, one of whom our very own Dave the distributors debated recently. Well, it's odd because
you're talking about the Nathan Kauffness discussion. Nathan Kauffness supposedly is a right-winger. He's
known for trying to mainstream the HBD thing for the, I don't know, he's been doing it for like two years.
He came to my attention because he wrote an article criticizing Heterodox Academy.
But then, you know, what's so funny is he realized that Heterodox Academy was useless because
they essentially dissented on free speech and then they gave power back to the experts on every other issue.
So then, you know, this year he writes an article about how there needed to be more of a deference to experts, which, you know, like he said, okay, they lied about COVID.
They lied about the, you know, Joe Biden's health.
They lied about any number of things, transgenderism, the lab leak theory, and even admits that they've been lying about global warming in certain key ways.
And then his thesis is, no, but we need to listen to the experts on tariffs because, like, there's a consensus.
And also on Israel because there's a consensus.
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caused me
to do a
double take
when I read it
is he has this line.
He says the experts got it right all the time.
They just lied.
So he doesn't,
and I continuously kind of grilled him on this.
He didn't seem to understand the difference between an error,
like a random error,
like I'm stupid or I'm drunk or I just made a mistake,
and an intentional lie.
And I don't know.
I mean,
this is kind of an interesting philosophical problem.
I could go over it.
I can see you have my graph up here.
But the funny thing is just how I kind of was expecting him to kind of concede this point and move on, but he just wouldn't let go of it.
He seems so invested.
And it was almost kind of like a Sam Harris moment.
It's like, okay, we could admit that the experts were wrong and we can admit the experts were lying.
But now we have to go back and trust the experts even harder until we prove that they're lying again.
I don't know.
I mean, I guess this is just what you should expect from the academy these days.
But Dave, man, yeah.
Dave, didn't he just really make the point that, I mean, I tuned that after 45 minutes, man.
I'm sorry, I couldn't make it.
But didn't he try to make the point that being wrong, that lying wasn't as bad as being wrong?
Yeah, yeah, he said, well, he said that it depends whether a long,
is worse than being wrong depends on the context.
And I think what he,
I'm going to steal a man him here.
I think what he's thinking of is we're going to look at the information after it happens
and then evaluate each untruth utilitarianly based on how much it cost us as a society.
But that's not what you're doing when you're interpreting facts as they come from a truth teller.
You're not evaluating the facts.
You're evaluating the actor or the fact system.
and saying how much can I trust this fact system.
That's why all of the journals that, you know,
every journal that I published in every journal that he's published in,
if you publish a mistake, they'll be very understanding,
you know, some more than others, obviously.
If you publish an intentional hoax,
you will never publish in that journal again
and probably won't publish in many others either in that field.
But I guess we just unlearn this when it comes to things like Israel
We unlearn this when it comes to things like tariffs.
And what's so funny is that I'm actually, you know, just as a personal matter,
I am highly skeptical of tariffs.
I do think that NAFTA kind of got us into the situation,
but it does not necessarily stand to reason that undoing NAFTA will get us out of it.
Like things aren't symmetrical that way in economics, right?
And you could end up hurting the system more with tariffs than not.
But, you know, that's not the point.
The point is that there's a refusal to even,
even engage in an analysis of the economic state of being.
And all you get is just appeals to expert consensus against all data.
You're reminding me of something that I've,
I've been trying to hunt this down.
It's an article from, I think, 2018, right before COVID came.
It was explaining institutional trust collapse under Trump and before.
and a little detail in this article, which I wish I could find, was that it was outlining what institutions are still trusted.
And it was a political article, and they were saying Democrats should focus on these still trusted institutions if they hope to nourish voters in the next election.
And it outlined above on the top medical professionals.
At that time in 2018, they were the most trusted institutions.
Yeah, I trusted them too.
I thought that that was part of the academy that hadn't been interrupted.
Yeah, and reflecting on what I can remember from this article,
it was almost lining them up as like, listen, guys, we know everyone,
anyone you pick, you're going to shit the bed in.
So just do it one at a time.
Don't do it all at once.
And you might be able to extend your power for a few extra years.
But, no, now that we've established that we can't trust the doctors anymore,
at least we have our experts on Israel.
Like that's the one honest institution.
That's the one area of research in the modern academy that we can trust is the expert consensus on Israel.
I mean, it seems like every two years they pick whatever is the most trusted institution to build the party platform on.
And when they burn that down, they move on to the next like a parasite.
and you can only do this so many times before there's no trusted institutions left.
Yeah, I mean, this is the problem.
They're just going to whatever they can kind of use to get credibility for the next round.
So it's just a continuous hopping off the little lee pads onto the next one.
You know, you might have a clip lined up, but I assume this is the one, well, you know, I don't know if people are going to play it.
But, you know, there's not going to be trust in institutions.
if they continuously lie.
And that's what Nathan Koffinus doesn't understand.
People will not trust lying systems
unless those systems are purged and punished
and there is a demarcation
that the past was that there was a mistake made,
there's a reckoning.
You can't just go like, oh, we're really, really, really smart,
so trust us again.
Once we've established that, I mean,
I'm going to say this on the show,
but the New York Times has essentially emitted the lab leak theory
at the stage.
Like they've admitted it. It's over.
And they've also admitted that there was a cover-up.
And, I mean, it's very obvious in New York Times is part of that.
They obviously blame the scientists.
That means that essentially our institutional scientific establishment has murdered millions of more people than the establishment of the USSR responsible for Chernobyl.
Like, is there any reckoning about this?
Like, you know, there was a reckoning in Chernobyl.
like people were put on trial very publicly.
So what happened?
Well, in many ways that's why we're not going down the peaceful breakup of the Soviet Union model.
We're going down the burning down in flames like late French Republic model.
It's very like this need to grasp onto this thing that has lost trust because you don't know any other framework of viewing reality.
It's probably going to take their party down with them.
which is great.
But it also means that if you can go deeper and convince the voter,
no institution is trustworthy.
This,
this,
uh,
there's a phrase for cannibalization maybe,
uh,
of institutions to get political capital.
The model collapses.
Well,
it's,
it's like how,
you know,
petroleum generates electricity is,
you know,
you shatter the bonds,
uh,
in,
in,
in the chemical itself.
which releases energy, which powers whatever system.
This is an extreme oversimplification.
I'm not a chemist, but it's the exact same thing.
It's the exact same principles.
It's like, yeah.
It goes from a high energy state to a low energy state.
Exactly.
Catabolism.
The phrase is cannibalism.
It's catabolism.
B-A-B-O-L-I-S-M.
As in catabolic.
Yeah.
Yeah, catabolic degeneracy.
Well, it's, you know, and it's a powerful system,
but the problem is is it feeds on.
itself. You know, and it's reaching its absolute, you know, the absolute limit that it can reach
without, the DEI, the trans stuff, we've got a couple of other stories that's going to touch on
this. I don't want to get too much in depth, but it's the high water mark. And they've already
started going the other way. They have nothing left to burn. What institution of the government
it still has credibility and trust.
In an administrative state, everything becomes administrative.
The academy, the churches, everything.
That's just where we're at at this point.
And they need, someone like Kauffinus needs to defend his position.
He's already somebody who has stepped out on the limb with HBD,
which, I mean, I don't think that's so much stepping out on a limb anymore.
I think he decided to do something at a time when, you know, when the...
They were going to have to do this anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah, the danger was going down.
So keep, it's almost like a limited hangout.
If you know, if you know the limited hangout kind of...
You could see them doing with this lab leak theory too.
Like in 2022, they like, they tested the waters for admitting it and they withdrew.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry, I didn't interrupt you, Pete.
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
No, it's a perfect.
It's a perfect example.
when it's okay to be edgy boy when it's when something's already on the way out.
But by pointing out that if you, if the academy is now just one big lie and that people
share in the lie and people glom on to the lie, you know, it's my whole thing of academics
getting kicked out of, losing their jobs for plagiarism.
it's like how can you plagiarize when you all have the same opinion?
I mean,
that's literally impossible.
So it's basically it's white blood cells now.
It's just protect, protect, protect, protect.
And if you're calling them all a liar, you're putting, his job is on the line.
Yeah, his, yeah, good.
No, I mean, I'm laughing, Pete, because that's exactly what I said to Chris Rufo.
I said, like, going after Claudine Gay or whatever for plagiarism, these people
all, like they have no original ideas.
The only thing she didn't do is put it in her own words,
but it's been all the same ideas in those departments for the last 20 years.
Everything has plagiarism, right?
You're just, you're not even showing that she's dishonest.
You're just showing that she's lazy, right?
She couldn't, she couldn't put her work into a word processor and retype it.
She's part of the hive.
Yeah.
She's just part of the hive.
That's it.
And she got punished for it because, well,
anti-Semitism was rearing its ugly head on campus and she had been taught that you let these people
these kids they they part of their college experience is protesting well they just picked the wrong
they picked the wrong subject yeah and well it's interesting because this is last year there
was this explosion of people like the well they call themselves the elite human capital people
I call them the new secular right
these people who are kind of like we're going
to ape leftist affectations
and academic credentials
but also beyond the right wing
I think that this whole system of people
isn't the process of collapse
and I do not think that they have anything to say
after Trump won the second time
and I think they're grasping for straws
I think they're going to go back
to being like the new atheist
but you know unlike Sam Harris
they're not personally well
established enough to kind of coast on their brand then.
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No, I agree with you.
I believe the left is in complete and total retreat.
They've been broken.
They've brought in too many client groups,
and their client groups are too opposed to each other,
and there's no immediately forthcoming political formula.
And Newsom is kind of gearing up in his little fiefdom of California
to make a sort of last stand in 2028.
I think that's what he's,
he's trying to sort of reinvent the Bill Clinton political formula.
I don't think it's going to work.
I compared him to James the second at the boine,
to one of my friends.
But the thing is,
the thing is with it is that, yes, this is a collapsing system,
but as Christopher Sandbatch likes to say,
the Democratic Party is the historical party of power in the United States.
And if the Democratic Party,
and its edifices go away,
nothing will come to fill that void.
Yes, they're collapsing,
but who's going to fill that void?
The Republicans?
Yeah, there's nothing there, yeah.
And that's where political crises occurs,
when there's a breakdown of political authority,
which is one of the most dangerous
kind of civilizational crises you can go down.
It's more dangerous than a famine.
It's more dangerous than a drought.
Is a breakdown of political authority,
because that's where you get,
only civil wars, but, you know, something
somewhat worse than civil war, something like the 30 years war,
where it's just a total free-for-all,
within a geographically limited area.
But anyway, I digress.
I don't think we need to play the clip.
Go ahead.
There wasn't...
I can summarize what is in the clip because it does segue right back to our original
topic.
But, I mean, the statement I made, and I think this is the clip,
I told them, like, you need to be able to punish the universities, there needs to be a reckoning.
And before you do that, nothing can proceed.
And that's the one thing that Nathan Kauffmanis actually does complain about affirmative action.
But the second you do something to actually punish universities for implementing things like affirmative action,
then he will immediately defend them as being the best and the brightest.
yeah absolutely
well this is the other thing I saw
just kind of on that point and yes we're going to go back
to our original topic but on that exact same vein
I saw a video recently where
Mike Millie was in uniform talking about how people
swore an oath to the Constitution
and not a would-be dictator and the fact that
that not Mike Markner whatever
the fact that he's still drawing breath infuriates me
I was going to point out did any of you see the article
in the new
it's like the New York Mag intelligentsia
or intelligence sis I forget what's called
but it was about the um
it was basically like a column
in which multiple professors ranted about
kids using AI now
yeah this is related
uh that that line like massive numbers of students are going to
graduate functionally illiterate in their subjects
um there is actually
maybe an obtuse hope in that
because if if they're
so reliant on AI rather than thinking
critically about the topic,
they're also kind of not going to be
indoctrinated.
And they're, so what few
American students are going to be in here
and listen to these clips
like what they was interviewing with these institutions.
They're not getting the influence from the institution
because they're not actually thinking about it.
They're just telling the AI, the bullet points
from the assignment and having the AI do it.
So there may be this,
this idea, I'm not actually writing about this topic.
In the same way that during
COVID, the two to four years
that students were away from the classroom
created this vacuous
student body
that is essentially
very easy to radicalize in
non-regime-approved
views. Now you're going to have the same
thing in colleges where you're going to have this
generation of students that just
typed it into AI and had AI do the Islam
it. They're going to be
ripe and primed for any kind of radicalization
because they didn't fill it with the university
radicalization. Maybe in some ways
this protest movement that's happening is
a slight result of that to some degree, I don't know.
I don't feel good about that.
I agree with you, but I don't think that's a good thing.
No, I mean, it raises a generation of people
that just use AI as a certain of their thought process, you know,
so I don't know, this is...
Go ahead.
I would argue that a large amount of the political
capital of young protesters
comes from this radicalization
pathway. Without it,
they're not going to be radicalized
as much. They'll be lazy,
do nothings, but they won't be in the streets
during the next, like, riot or something.
They won't care. They
haven't been radicalized and collected
the political capital to want to do something.
They simply don't care.
Yeah, I mean, I think mass
apathy is what's eventually going to
go on.
Well, one of the things that I'm the most worried about is the demographic decline amongst under 20s that is coming like a freight train, which scares me more than anything else.
But gentlemen, I think we've talked about this quite a bit.
Did any of you have any final thoughts about the University Wars, Mr. Cofness, the state of the academy or the state of the people going into the academy before we move on to our next topic?
I'm good.
All right.
I guess we've beat this horse to death.
Well, bringing us into our next topic, recently there was, I think Elon Musk made a tweet.
He said, you know, the GDP growth is absolutely vital to national security, et cetera, et cetera.
And then I think some, you know, like fake-based senator or whomever quote tweeted it and said,
it's impossible to refute him on this.
and then some third individual
responded to that senator or representative
or whomever's quote tweets saying
strip mine the national parks
to yeah strip mine the federal parks to end the national debt
and we of course have our
we have our beloved leader up there
who is quite a naturalist and hunter himself
who as I said earlier is currently in Africa
literally on safari at the moment
he had this to say
America's natural beauty is not for sale
go to port 100 million illegals and get rid of DEI
you know like actually do the job you were elected to do
I completely agree with our president here
well I mean the point is
we talked about this red hawks on my show
and we talked about this
if you deport 100 million illegals
if you lower the population
if you
that helps not
only the economy. It lowers prices. It lowers the prices of houses. It lowers the price of rent.
It also lowers pollution. All of these things. But one of the things I want to point out here is
strip mine the federal parks and the national debt. This is by data Republican. This is one of those
people who got really famous for made the software where you could plug someone's name in or an
NGOs name in and look exactly how much money they were getting USAID and everything.
And it really goes to show that people, they were made hero.
I mean, Trump mentioned, mentioned this person.
Elon highlighted this person.
People were asking, you know, asking this person to come on.
I think this person lost their job and people are like asking them to come on their
podcast or find her a job, I believe, is a female.
Of course it's a female.
That's a total whammon moment right there.
but it just goes to show that these people are they're not our people
these Republicans are not are they're not our people they they're
they don't get it they they just don't get it they think these are just civic
nationalists and it's their line go up people that's not what we're about we're not
about line go up I remember going to her website
and typing A-PAC and getting zero results,
and I was instantly suspicious of it.
There are certain groups that civic nationalists consider friendly
that they seem to have censored off that data Republican website.
I think that it was primarily a tool against the left, which good,
but it was not a tool to reflect on how the right is captured.
and that is concerning
and I think here we're seeing it again
they're just about GDP
they're just about their friends and allies
we're not their friends
we're just this like useful
they view us as kind of like the useful
idiots to get into power
and that's kind of like
you feel used when you realize that
and
silly woman
exactly
do you think that
you know this is an interesting question
so I have a different perspective
I hate the GDP line go up thing.
I get debates about this frequently.
It's not a good representation of median well-being.
It's a terrible representation of median well-being.
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Care about it, even those who aren't aligned with our enemies,
and that's because GDP is essentially what allows us to keep on borrow.
money.
And we're borrowing money against future GDP, which means that if the GDP growth stops, the money
printers stop going burr, which means that we have a catapult collapse of the Western financial
systems.
And that is something that is a huge can of worms that we haven't even begun to unwrap
yet.
ideally this is also one of the reasons why some people have speculated that the ruling class might be they might be pulling back on immigration it appears at least in some areas of Europe and in Canada I never know how seriously to take this rhetoric but certainly the rhetoric is in that direction and one possible reason is is that in the last five years it's become very very apparent that not only is immigration deleterious to median well-being which you can see quite clear
clearly, but also that the immigrants they're bringing in our net negatives on GDP, which they do care about.
Because if they don't have that, they can't keep on printing the money and borrowing.
Which begs the question why we haven't, or at least our elite, haven't gotten this memo,
because the obsession with, like, picking your cherished third world group to bring over here to work your jobs,
when we all know they're just going to be in welfare and taking, like, like,
hiding a lot of tax money through remittances.
I just don't understand why they haven't got them.
I do see that nations like England, Poland, and France,
they're getting them up, they realize it.
They realize it's, it is actually, in fact,
dropping the GDP, the more immigrants they bring in
because they're all in welfare and not contributing to the workforce.
So when are we going to get that memo?
Because they should have gotten it by now.
Well, I mean, I think that they're just trying to get more power inside
the sort of the primary superpower of the West.
So they're thinking, oh, well, maybe it'll tank the economy,
but I'm still trying to get as much power as possible
before this thing collapses.
That's obviously the counterfeeling logic.
And immigrants give that to them in the short term.
You know, I want to take that and run with it a little bit.
Go ahead, Pete.
Go ahead, Paul. No, go ahead, please.
Okay. I just want to take that and run with it a little bit.
You talk about how, you know, maybe the mindset
amongst the elite is like, yeah, this thing is inevitably going to collapse,
but I want to make sure that I get my little corner secure before it does.
I think that's the prevailing attitude amongst a lot of people.
One of the things I've kind of been obsessing with since I even got started
is the concept of decline and collapse in crisis and what will eventually bring this to an end.
And the same way that we were talking about in the last segment,
how this parasitic political economy that he's,
exists amongst this elite that basically goes from institution to institution,
breaking the credibility and all of that.
I don't underestimate the capacity of this group of people to keep things going
just long enough to ensure that they've siphoned as much out as they possibly can.
And I don't know if there's any way to keep them from doing that, right?
this actually gets into the topic of a couple of the talks that we had at the conference as to how you react to that.
I personally, I don't know.
I don't think there's any way around this catabolic collapse, and I don't think there's any way that we can make these people pay for taking all of the money out of our system because the one, they all have their landing pads more or less pre-selected.
And this has been an ongoing thing since the system.
70s. So in all honesty, I think the best thing for us to do and the best thing for us to focus on
and something that the old glory club is starting to focus on is, you know, rather than,
rather than, you know, attempting to map out how these people are taking the money or how they're,
how they're shattering and emptying the vault, start making plans for what you're going to do
whenever this catabolic collapse inevitably occurs. Because I, you know,
Everyone and their mother can tell you that this system based on endless lending doesn't end very well.
One of my favorite old letter collections, I think it's by Sedonis.
It's basically the meeting minutes between the Gothic kings and the surviving Roman Senate after the Western imperial system collapsed.
and one of the things that
constantly gets brought up by the Gothic
monarch when they're
meeting with the Senate
is who gave you this tax
relief, who gave you these workers?
The Gothic kings don't understand
how these Italian noblemen
cut out a part of the former empire
for themselves without anyone
noticing. And
they're just flabbergasted by the amount
of tax-free, easy living
so many of the elite were living
as the empire burned down.
They thought they would find them impoverished and in need, but instead they found them living on their own little fortified piece of the pie.
And one of the most common things I see in these meeting minutes in like the, this must be like the seventh and eighth centuries is the Gothic king looking at this and just stripping out all the benefits away and retaxing them to like maximum amounts because they haven't paid their dues to what they were calling the Roman Commonwealth in the post imperial system.
And I don't want to wait for some foreign conquest.
or to come here and berate our elite for being so selfish.
I don't want to wait my whole life watching them
make their little fortified piece of the pie
while everyone else dies and suffers.
And unfortunately, I don't know how to like get them
to care about investing in this nation.
I don't know. I really don't know.
The only solution seems to be to just build your own
and be a better person when you compete with these elite
in the post-federal system, whatever comes.
You have to just have something that you can barter with with these elite
because they're amputating chunks of this empire for themselves.
I remember what is it?
I think this relates somewhat to the previous topic that we have with these universities.
You know, I understand that I'm actually, I'm surrounded by three Catholics here,
but I'm going to make the comparison.
When Henry VIII seized all of the monasteries in England,
when he broke from the Catholic Church,
I'm not going to speak to theological issues.
The church owned one-third of the land in England.
You know, the priests in England,
I'm not going to speak to anywhere else in Europe.
The priests in England were living in almost, you know,
extraordinary wealth, you know.
And it, like the universities in the last segment that I think of,
and, you know, much like how the,
elite that we have today are building these little communities. And I think it started when the
wasps basically threw their hands up in the 70s and said, we're cashing out. And you can still find
they have their own little fortified community. Sandbatch will talk about them. They're in Cape Cod and
Martha's Vineyard. That's the ones that you know about. But then there's a bunch of other town names
you don't know about. They're in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. They're in all of these other places with
their multi-million dollar houses and their controlled county governments. And it is walled off.
and you can't get in.
And they live amongst each other.
And that's how this works.
And, you know, I agree with you that I don't want to just,
I don't want to see them just get away with it.
But at the same time, it's like, well, what can you do?
What can you do to hold them accountable to this?
We have a money-based system,
unless you're willing to appeal to a power higher than gold,
then I don't know.
I don't think there's anything that can be done here.
I'll drop the text in the...
I'll drop the texts in the chat here,
so you guys can read it in your own time.
Is this...
Is one of those that undergraduate thesis that you...
Or that graduate level thesis at Texas...
No, no, no.
That's a different one.
These are the meeting minutes.
The Roman Senate survived the fall of the Western Empire
and became subject to the Austrogyzic kings.
So they functioned as the...
They functioned as the bureaucratic...
state under the Gothic Kings
and the Gothic Kings being
autistic Germans recorded the meeting
minutes so you get to see the dialogues
between the Roman senators
and the Gothic Kings as the Gothic Kings
kind of like set up a medieval
Dodge department to figure out what the hell
went wrong here.
Otto Walker did nothing wrong.
At one point
he just berates the senator, this one senator
for living tax free for three generations
and not having paid
a single Senate taxes for the local roads.
that were now in complete disrepair.
And he's just yelling at him like, why haven't you paid for the roads?
Why haven't you rebuilt the aqueducts?
Why haven't you rebuilt the bridges?
You're surrounded by like a third world state
while you're living in the palace with your pristine town.
Why aren't you contributing to the Italian commonwealth?
You know, that reminds me of some of the best universities
in the South and and elsewhere.
Johns Hopkins and Duke immediately come to mind in Baltimore
and in Durham, respectively.
is that they're these like perfect little ivory tower.
Princeton's another great example.
Like beautiful places, beautiful campuses, well maintained,
and they are just surrounded by the worst ghetto in the country, almost.
You know, it's almost unbelievable to contrast.
And I can see that exact thing that you're speaking of there.
And I think part of it is, you know, Alex Jones,
I know I'm going to cite him, but he has that,
I don't know if I got it from him or if he got it from some,
one, but it's this concept of what's called a breakaway civilization.
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elite of any society, especially when you add wealth and power to the mix, the elite of any society
start seeing each other as the society and they start looking at the people under them in any
circumstance as, you know, I don't want to be lurid here, but let's just say,
foreigners is a right way of saying it.
And that's not even within their conception because we look at the world as, you know,
or the German kings, look at this country, look at the world as, it's a commonwealth.
It's like, you know, we're all trying to push into the same goal.
We all have to live here.
You know, but that's because we're middle class.
That's because we're in the middle.
That's because we're the ones who maintain the country.
And the people who reap most of the benefit just simply don't look at it that way.
You know?
so I'm sure there's a psychology aspect to it
I know we had we had a funny little clip
as to to demonstrate the state of the national parks
where they're in
it's like you want to strip mine them it's like well they're already kind of being
strip mined look who's inhabiting all of them
you know it's a great live stream
when we're forgetting to bring up our clips because the conversation
is is that Niagara Falls
yes yeah oh well that's been that's been
and Central for ages.
But I can see there's even more now.
Wow.
Yeah.
That means you ended up
doing a nothing burger, though.
Unfortunately.
I can't even...
That's where my parents went on their honeymoon.
Niagara Falls?
Yeah.
That was something that people used to do.
Yeah, I was going to say,
it's probably one of the nicer
places in the country back when they did it.
Yeah, yeah, back in the 60s, definitely.
Although, I hate to say it, I think that's the Canadian side you're looking at.
Well, they got to go somewhere.
They can't all stay up there.
But no, I mean, you know,
one of the things that I've particularly liked in a turn is environmentalism
and the concept of environmental preservation as, you know,
an issue that's no longer monopolized by the worst people on Earth.
Because, you know, just about everyone would agree,
anyone who's like healthy and upstanding would agree with you of a particular cultural background
would say that it's probably important to preserve some aspect of the natural environment
instead of you know just rolling it particularly the beautiful parts the the you know i'm not
going to cry any tears when a patch of planes in oklahoma gets developed um but yeah exactly
like like teddy roosevelt right there like of course you know we want to preserve
a sort of wild natural beauty,
which only became a thing when we had the capacity
to utterly destroy the wild natural beauty.
It's something that, I don't know if we can never get it back,
but it's something that it'll be very hard to get back
once you lose it.
And, you know, the problem is that in California,
particularly with how they manage forests,
they do it in such a negligent, like, retarded manner
that everything is just left free.
once you start, once people start managing an environment, you can't stop managing it.
You know, there's whole industries based around, like forestry.
It's based entirely around the health of forests, preventing blights, you know,
keeping forest fires from happening at too large of an extent, et cetera, et cetera.
But you can't just like throw your hands up and like say, oh, it's, it's back to Eden.
You know, you have to manage it somewhat.
That's why Park Rangers exist.
you know, that's why you have whole sub-industries
based around maintaining these park systems.
But you can't do the opposite.
You can't just utterly flood them with invasive species.
You can choose to take that as a euphemism if you want.
You can't just flood them with invasive species.
And the problem is that particularly with these,
the problem with the national park system
isn't is not that it is not accessible enough.
It is that it has been made too accessible.
It has been made too easy for people who don't care for the environment to go there and treat it like it's the McDonald's parking lot.
And that's something that I think, you know, the club takes very seriously.
And some thinkers on the side of things take very seriously.
And I'm very glad that that is a, that is an issue that we've started reclaiming.
I mean, environmentalism has to be part of any kind of non-progressive right-wing vision of human life,
because the environment is a critical part of human thriving.
And we are not lying, go up people.
We are thriving and spiritual and physical thriving of humanity people.
That is our politics.
And environment is a critical aspect of that.
One question I have is, I mean, why is all the,
sudden Indians at national parks. I never knew many Indians who were that outdoorsy. I guess I'm
surprised to see that. Oh, I forget who was telling me this. It may have been our very own Red Hawk,
our president, that if you go up to, in Michigan and Northern Michigan and the thumb of the
the mitt and the thumb of the mitt and up there, yeah, the UP. He said the national parks are
run by them up there. Interesting. I mean, I know Niagara Falls because Niagara Falls is, that's, that's
where they all have the weddings, right?
But I'm surprised to see,
yeah, they're not usually.
Most Indians I've known have not been very outdoorsy,
so that's an interesting thing.
Well, I,
how I've had it explain is it's largely for clout,
particularly with social media,
all of the best overlooks,
all of the most beautiful views
or whatever are the most accessible by car,
or at least the most iconic ones.
and so what happens is
is they all crowd and I saw this with the Blue Ridge Parkway
or Skyline Drive
I think two years ago
which is unfortunately
proximate to Northern Virginia where a great deal of
these people live and have lived for a very long time
or at least for my life
and we were driving by
one of the entrances to Skyline Drive
and the entrance was packed
halfway down the mountain
right there was
was a there was a traffic jam all the way halfway down the mountain that you have to drive up
to get into the Shenandoah Valley where you know right by the skyline drive and it was all
teslas and and these these other that's that's someone who drives a Tesla is this is a pretty good
euphemism um and i saw them and it's it's it's like okay so you're just you just you're just
trying to get onto the trail drive to the first overlook take a photo at the overlook to put on your
social media, your LinkedIn or whatever, right, for clicks. That's kind of what it, that's what drives
them to these places. These are prestigious places within the society. It's the same reason why they'll
go on like a quote unquote ski trip, but they'll, it'll be like, you know, they go to the bunny
slope and then they go and they get a photo take and that's, that's all that they do it. It's,
it's entirely for this vapid. So like, oh, look at me. I'm, you know, outdoorsy. It's very
oriental. It's very performative and it's
causing a lot of issues.
I can imagine.
I mean, I know this is sort of the artificiality of all
experience is going to be have something, have to be something that we take
more seriously these days. And it's not helping, like the huge
sort of cultural diversions of our society is not helping
this problem. Absolutely.
anything else on the national parks before we move on to our to our next topic
or actually real quick before we move on to our next topic we're going to hit super chats
but any any final comments before we do that i was just looking at jd i'll stay for the first
super chats but i have to probably sign off after that understood thank you very much for joining
us day oh no my pleasure it was great time uh let me let me see if
Oh, go ahead.
I did find one of my favorite meeting minutes by Theodark to the Roman Senate in which he lambast the senators for dishonoring their heritage to take care of their own.
You want to hear it?
Or later on?
Go ahead.
Please.
Please go ahead.
This is Letter 24 to the Senate of Rome.
He speaks a lot in third person, like we as in the king.
We hear with sorrow by the report of the provisional judgment.
judges that you, the fathers of the state, who ought to set an example to your sons, the ordinary citizens, have been so remiss in the payment of taxes that on the first collection, nothing or next nothing, has been brought in from the senatorial houses.
Thus, a crushing weight has fallen on the lower orders of citizens who have had to make good on your deficiencies and have been distraught by the violence of the tax gatherers.
now then conscript fathers
who owe as much
duty to the Republic as do
as we do pay the taxes
for which
for which each one of you
is liable to the procurators
appointed in each province
by three installments
or if you prefer to do so
and is used to be accounted
by your privilege
pay it all at once
into the chest of the
state's coffers
and let this following edict be published
that all the provincials may know that they are not to be imposed upon
and that they are invited into your state for grievances.
Like he's basically telling them if you don't pay your taxes,
I'm going to let the commenters legally enter your state and complain to you
and like throw a hissy fit.
And he just goes on at this, like there's dozens of letters like this
in which he discovers like they haven't paid taxes in four or five generations
and the local roads have gone.
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To the swamp, basically. It's just an endless, like, berating.
He literally sets up a commissioner for a government efficiency.
I think it's called something like efficiency in the finances, where it's basically a
medieval Dodge Department to investigate the senatorial houses and where their money is gone.
Reminds me of when they sent the illegals to frigging Martha's Vineyard, which I thought was a
brilliant move.
Yeah, this is not new.
These patterns repeat many times.
Anyway, to the superchats.
Indeed.
First one from Maple Copperhead for $10 U.S. dollars.
He says, salute from the James Oglethorpe Society,
your Old Glory Club brothers in Georgia.
Well, thank you, Mr. Copperhead,
and I salute you back for the James Oglethorpe Society.
Thank you for tuning in.
next brings us to Solid Snake, 1964, for $10.
He says, Evening Gents, so glad to see something is being done about the army of Chinese, quote, students, unquote, that have infested at our universities.
I didn't go to university, but even Vegas's was infested with them.
That's the thing, that's something I've noticed.
It's, you know, everyone who I talk to who's involved in any sort of graduate level education and even PhD, like they'll say like every PhD department in STEM or graduate department in STEM is just overrun.
run by Chinese nationals.
Yeah, it's such a
problem. I'm still having
like nightmares from when I was a student.
It was a problem in my undergrad years
and it was a bigger problem
in my graduate years.
And they just
help each other cheat unbelievably.
Usually there's like one guy who's like the son of some
government guy in China and he'll get a little click
of like various sons of
corporate people and he'll just like
order one to
do the assignment and then everyone benefits from that and they just copy paste everything.
And if they get caught, they don't give a shit because they're paying double the tuition
of what Americans do and the university wants that money.
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He says also Asha Logos's YouTube channel, in my opinion, is top tier stuff.
His video on the winged Hazars, I thought was presented masterfully.
Snake approved even in a salute.
I used to watch National Logos.
I haven't seen this stuff recently.
But thank you, Mr. Solid Snake.
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He says,
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as I read a battle tech novel
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At the OGC conference,
One of my favorite conversations was having
Yes explained to me
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I never got into battle tech.
Neither of I, but it was really cool to hear.
Yeah, no, I used to sell it when I worked at
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Mr. Padre speaks in case you haven't heard,
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Caleb, for $19.99, he said,
Dave, really enjoyed your appearance on the gauntlet this year.
El Themplar, I curse Vishnu.
Now blast that whistle, boys, and let's deport $75 million.
All right, let's get a whistle for the super chat.
I can't even remember what I talked about on the gauntlet, but yeah, it's a good show.
I just remember, I haven't talked to let.
He doesn't go by Lambda anymore, does he?
I don't know.
His YouTube channel still called that.
Okay.
Yeah, I haven't talked to him in, like, a good year.
I have to say hi again.
Yeah, it's kind of funny.
The space has gotten so big that I'm just losing contact with people based on very,
virtual distance. Like, I just can't, I can't keep track of everyone in the space anymore.
So I guess naturally there's going to be just some people you have to move away from this because
there are so many different things going on. All right, moving on. Next up is a ski bum 220 for
he sends in a super chat for $25. Thank you very kindly, sir. And he sends a salute.
Well, I salute you back. Thank you for joining us, sir.
Indian ski bum would be a great online moniker
Yeah it would be
Memphis
For a file I'm sorry for this one Dave
Memphis for five dollars he says here's one dollar for every 20 IQ points Dave has
Human capital is inevitable
And it's so over for the O for the woke right
Yeah that was like the um
copness after he do a little trolling it's called we do a little trolling
on Twitter when I was like reposting my arguments he was just talking about how I was just too low IQ to understand his trust the experts like elite human capital or like an expert as anybody who I say is an expert which is basically his position and now he's going after what is that guy he's going after like Chris Langan I think like he's going after his IQ he's trying to do like a 215 IQ yeah exactly but he's trying to debunk it he's trying to debunk it right because I believe Nathan Coppon
was also originally, like he was one of the original people that was trying to debunk, what is that, culture of critique, Kevin.
Oh, Kevin McDonald.
Kevin McDonald.
Yeah, he was originally trying to debunk Kevin McDonald.
And, you know, that's sort of his angle on HPD, as you might imagine.
Am I implying things too hard?
I'm sorry.
but yeah, yeah, it's, the IQ obsession has kind of become a little cringe at the stage,
at least in that sphere, but whatever.
Well, I think people are kind of realizing that virtue and moral character, sure,
there may be a little bit of an IQ element to that, but like, you know,
we've seen, we've seen enough really smart people with high IQs lie to us and, you know,
basically try to kill us.
So I think IQ is out of fashion.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's more important to know who you can trust.
Exactly.
Who's up next?
Death for $5.
I noticed that a small group of people,
the Security Council,
run all the shots in Russia.
All of them are ethnic Russian,
not rootless cosmopolitans.
I shared a video,
I think,
in the comments earlier of a
I think it was a rabbi or some
higher up saying that
anyone of Jewish descent needs to get out of Russia
that it's not safe to be in Russia
it's not safe for Jews to be in Russia
but Putin's a
Russian a Jewish puppet so
you know try to figure that out or it's probably just a grand
plot he's he's part of the K-Fabe and everything
like that, I, I, I can't
stand these people. Some of these
people are bigger Zionists than like
Theodore Herzl.
They think that like they're,
they're like Uber munches or something
like that. It's amazing.
Either Biden's cabinet was captured
like a Putin's cabinet.
Oh my God. Hunger.
Good friend of ours for $20.
He says, Dave, you're great
and very high IQ.
At least it counterbalances the previous one.
And he gave us more money.
gave us more money, so I guess we're going to count his as true.
But the fact that you had, but the fact you had to show a dartboard graph to explain lying is worse than incompetence is an indictment on their morality, not their intelligence.
They know they're lying for political gain.
We know they're lying.
They know we know.
Everything after that is post hoc rationalization.
Yeah, we're going to come to this perspective one way or the other.
I mean, this is the reason why I'm part of the right wing
is because it's the only place where people are actually having conversations that mean anything.
Have you, like, I know you guys don't look at leftist media,
but it is, like, it is, the far left media sphere has,
they've got nothing, they're talking about nothing.
They're just, it's just a giant cope session.
They're not even exploring interesting ideas.
It's a little bit interesting to see the New York Times tried to reposition
itself and get to
a new narrative, kind of
a Gavin Newsome transformation,
but everyone else outside
of right wing and right wing
adjacent spheres is just
not talking about anything that's meaningful
it seems.
Beautiful sworn of vent a black coal.
I made that.
There's an account on YouTube.
I do pay attention to kind of like
fringe left wing accounts on YouTube
just to see if anything
is breaking their
control mechanisms.
There's this account.
Aiden Hall
he made a video called
Who Broke the Democrats?
And most of it is
Slop. It's basically
reinforcing the Democrat
internal political dialects.
But
he does bring up a few
interesting points, but it's a good
example of how they're completely lost.
And the video is like
200,000 views on YouTube.
They're clearly talking about these things, but they're just repeating the party line a lot of times.
They're completely lost of any future endeavors, it seems.
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Yeah, it's, there's, I don't know, I don't want to say that the left is out,
but something very serious is broken inside their system.
and it's almost more likely that the right wing is sort of the future of what young people believe in this country,
at least who are native-born.
Because I don't know what else.
I mean, I guess there's still women.
They're still college-educated women.
But they're sort of like the ultimate kind of compliance, joiner, agreeableness types.
So when the Democrats are on the back, but they don't have any ideas, they're just trying to look.
for who to join and there's there's no answer so
it just kind of goes off into incoherence
the New York mayor race
will be something to pay attention because
I mean there what's that guy Zahan or something the
the weird Muslim guy they're trying to pull a Sadie Khan in Manhattan
the Democrats and it'll be interesting to see if it if it falls flat on its
face as like a relic of a yesteryear woke
or if there's still some remnant
woke
strength in the cities
pay attention to it when it happens
it's this year, it's not next year
it's November 4th this year
is our election for New York
and it will be worth paying attention to see
how it goes
I think Eric Adams
is running as an independent because
he got kicked out of the Democrat
candidacies
Yeah, I mean
I don't know
I get the sense that they're trying to pull back the whole Sadiq Khan revolution in London as well, the sort of powers that be.
So I have no idea where this is going to go, but I don't know.
There's this an opportunity here.
Like there's this an opportunity here to organizing young men is exactly where everyone needs to be thinking right now.
And I'm not so sure.
I mean, it's amazing that there aren't more people trying to do it.
because it's absolutely the thing that we should be doing
or anyone should be doing who wants to actually change anything.
On that note, join the Old Glory Club.
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and it is from Hunter counts for 10 US dollars
thank you sir and he says
great to see Dave on an OGC stream
It is great to see you, Dave.
Thanks, man.
Thank you.
I should do more, but it's the time thing.
Absolutely.
Well, on that note, Dave, I know you said you had to get going here, so you're free to do so.
Thank you very much for joining us.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'll talk to you guys later.
Take care, Dave.
Bye.
And then there were three.
All right, now that Dave's gone, we can actually get into the fun topics.
So I would personally like to issue on behalf of,
of the old glory club a a congratulations i can't issue i don't have the authority to do that sort of
thing um but i do want to issue uh congratulations to uh mr george floyd of minneapolis minnesota
for five years no felonies congratulations sir i mean who knew who knew that's what was going to
that's what it was going to take to get him drug-free.
Some people just, they need all the help they can get.
You know, we can rebuild him.
We have rebuilt him.
That's the, you know, all he needs is a unlimited supply of Fent,
and he can do unbelievable things.
Look, I mean, this is somebody who could have, you know,
his life cut short and he could,
could have cured cancer, helped Musk terraform Mars.
It's a great loss, and I'm sure by this point, you know, Trayvon Martin would have figured
out how to feed all of the poor in the world.
So let's remember the fallen.
Well, you know, he was an aspiring philosopher, too.
You know, the statement that he had, you know, this young generation has clearly lost.
man clearly lost and he was at a loss for words,
I think would very much betrayed a 21st century Plato.
And it's a very deep shame that we did lose him.
The N-word!
So true.
But May 25th, 2025, marks five years since the George Floyd incident occurred,
which was the...
I think on that.
I don't even know how to describe it.
It was almost a religious incident, you know, some sort of mass psychosis event that
that shaped the country and kicked off the summer of, some people call it the summer of love,
but I think we all call it the summer of Floyd because it better exemplifies it.
And it feels like it was like 40 years ago.
It doesn't feel like it was five years ago.
I don't know if you gentlemen disagree.
You know, I remember, I was still fairly liberal back then, and I remember all the church
is trying to turn him into a saint.
And for a brief time, I was leaning towards falling for it.
But once I started reading that autopsy report, I was like, oh, this is another bullshit thing.
And it's one of those nexus points I can look back on and say that that's when I stopped being leaptarded.
That's when, like, the veil collapsed.
Yeah, for most, for most, oh, go ahead, Pete.
Yeah, it's one of those things where it's like I'm sitting there and I'm watching an obvious
criminal. And then there's George Floyd in the picture. And, you know, it's like, who do you
root for? And it's like, well, you know, I struggle with this. I see a certain class of,
certain class in this, a certain class that's supposed to be a protector, being a protector
of the people who came here afterwards
or the people who do
the 13 that do 60
instead of
heritage Americans and the people who actually
care about this country and it's
something that I struggle with.
The N-word! You know what the N-word is?
Yeah.
If you want to understand
idolatry,
if you want to understand the
inborn, we're all Christians.
you know we know this we all know this every human being that was ever created has this
slot in their mind where god is supposed to go every human being cannot help but worship
in some way or in some form something and a lot of people think oh we'll know we're in the we're in
the 21st century it's it's this is this is and I know this is kind of trite no one really
thinks this but it's like a lot of people at least previously struggled to see what the
idols of this world are and that's kind of like
like asking a fish what waters is.
But George Floyd, and what spawned around him,
is, I think, the clearest and most blatant example of idolatry that we can find.
It's like, I think it's in the book of Daniel.
It's like when Nebuchadnezzar raised up the statue and ordered everyone to lay down for it,
to worship it.
know if correct me if that's wrong i think that's in the book of daniel um yeah and and and and
and have everyone worship it and it's it's a similar thing it's it's just this very blatant and obvious
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Became a site of pilgrimage.
People were getting baptized there.
you know
it was
a weird time
statues of him
basically what it told me was
that we were
and remember
at the same time we're still
most of the country still going through COVID
lockdowns
all of these things you know the arguments
over oh you know
the virus is really dangerous
but it's more important
to go out there and
march for, burn stuff down
for racial justice. But
really what that should have told you is
or should have told you that the president
is not in charge.
Yeah. Because he couldn't
do any, I mean, if I were a president
looking back, I don't know what I would have done.
But if I were president now,
you know, the way I am now,
I would have
put, you know,
101st airborne has been deployed to the streets
of the United States before and put down riots.
They did in L.A. twice, I believe.
I think the 101st was in 92, and the Watts riots in 67.
I don't know if it was 101st, but there was definitely, you know,
troops on the street.
And that's what needed to be done.
And these people needed to be put down.
They needed, I mean, I got, this is my first,
I think my first Twitter account that I've never gotten back.
the one I made in like 2008
was nuked because I said
that these are communists and we should
shoot them dead in the street
and I mean
that's the same way I feel and if it happens
again I don't think it's going to happen
this summer but it is coming
it will be happening again
probably 2020
probably 2028 most definitely
we'll have some stuff in between now and then
but
these people need to be put
down when they do it
And if you don't do that, you're not a serious country.
You're not a serious country.
I really have to admit that, you know, at that time, I was still a bit libtarded,
but even apolitically seeing Trump just do nothing as the country burned down,
it left a certain bad taste in my mouth with Trump.
I mean, I'm glad he's back.
I'm very glad he's back because I did not want the fucking parade.
of Biden's do nothings
for more years here
but just seeing him
complain and do nothing back
then some degree
there's a echo of that I'm feeling now
in this second term
people forget
you know like
yeah Donald Trump
was president when that happened right
so he
he had the
opportunity to rise above the occasion
and he just didn't
yeah
I don't know
I don't know.
It's
kind of the
what is it?
It's it's it, it heralded the
it heralded the start
of the
crisis I suppose that'll last
throughout these, you know, 2020s
or at least in the same way I think that the 60s led into the 70s.
I think the summer of Floyd
started the true crisis of the Trump era
which was you know, COVID and,
and the color revolution which follows from it.
And yeah, I believe in much the same way
that the 60s, the crisis that the 60s brought about
preceded the 70s.
We haven't heard the last of the,
or at least it's been much more contained
because we're all online.
But this crisis of the 2020s will lead into a sort of,
I guess, I guess a breakdown in the 2030s.
that'll be likened to the 70s,
whether it's as bad or worse
is another matter. But
yeah, I mean, it's important to keep
these things in mind. You said earlier,
cringy, that
this is like the
burned down of the
friend's republic. I might even
liken it to the breakup of perhaps
Yugoslavia, though I don't know if
there's enough of a political economy
in the United States outside of the government
to make it happen.
That was out of fire
alarm, that beep, that was my air conditioner.
There is probably a lot
of similarities
to Spain, early 1930s as well.
I want to recommend
a book that I've been slowly working through
Richard Harris, Justice,
the Crisis of Law, Order,
and Freedom in America. He was,
I think, embedded in the Nixon
and Johnson administrations,
especially in the courts,
and documents
what went wrong at that time.
The subtext of this title
is an alarming report on the very different uses
made of the Justice Department by Ramsey Clark and John
Mitchell, which worked with like the AGs at the time.
It is a really good book written in
what year was this?
It should be written here somewhere.
1970.
Right in the middle of it.
And it is quite prophetic from its time period of
publication, as well as insightful in terms of how institutions get captured and get used against
the native population. I've been meaning to scan it in. It's quite a good book. It's about
250 pages. I don't even know if this book is in any libraries anymore. I found it in the
garbage one day, and it's like, that looks interesting, and it was. I'll maybe scan it,
but it's Richard Harris's justice. We'll seek it out if you can. Thank you for that recommendation.
And yeah, I mean, you know, the, look at the, I've been kind of on the Vietnam War recently and Vietnam era films and things like that.
And that's kind of, the Vietnam era is where you kind of see the world that we currently inhabit.
I put this out before.
I don't think we live in the post-World War II order.
I think the post-World War II order in Bretton Woods
fell apart in the latter
I mean it fell apart a couple of years after Korea
and the 60s is kind of
the true fine well it fell apart in around the 70s
is when it fell apart but we don't live in the post-World War II
Breton Woods World Order that that world order
created the 1950s and even the early 1960s
which were somewhat decent times to be alive.
We live, in my opinion, in the post-Vietnam
world order, which includes the post-Civil rights world order.
When people are talking about FDR, FDR is kind of ancient history at this point.
Who they really should be talking about is LBJ,
is the kind of the man who created this mess
that has just kept continually reinforcing itself.
and there's a whole other history you can read into it.
But Vietnam and the Vietnam War is exceptionally similar to COVID and what occurred in the 2020s.
It was the first time that something like this was, you know, we call it Psiops these days.
But what it basically was, was the media and those who present information functionally all decided that we were going to lose this war in Vietnam.
were going to do everything that they could to ensure that we were losing this war in Vietnam,
and to present that image to the American public, no matter what the facts were,
in order to further their domestic political agenda of civil rights,
of letting in global immigration, of anti-unquote imperialism, or global communism.
That is functionally what occurred in the Vietnam War,
and that's why you can't ever really engage with the Vietnam War, honestly,
because you're not talking about the war itself.
The war was unbelievably lopsided,
and we were the good guys in Vietnam.
We were the good guys by a very large margin.
You read about what the Viet Cong did, you realize, oh, yes, no, we were the good guys.
And, you know, you can throw out a my lie if you want to.
but I digress.
Functionally, this is, and, you know, Malcolm X vocalized it when he said that,
oh, you know, the white man lost in Vietnam.
He lost to a bunch of rice herders with sticks.
You know, and that was the, that was the narrative, functionally.
That was the narrative that the media was trying to manufacture.
It's like, you know, it's like when you convince, you placebo a healthy person into thinking
that they're sick.
and then it kind of follows along.
That's what occurred in the 1960s,
when the media first became self-conscious
of what it could do as the purveyors of information.
And Vietnam really was a societal sciop,
and it was a, we are going to lose this war
and we're going to sacrifice as many American soldiers as we can
in order to further this domestic policy.
and I believe the same thing
or at least 2020 was
and they've pulled this a variety of times
you know
between Vietnam and now
and I think 2020 and COVID was
really it was the last time
that they could pull something like this
because the internet
and now everyone is their own media
producer now everyone is a news station
now everyone's a journalist and everyone
is constantly seeing stuff all
the time. Now they
have too much competition.
There's no monopoly of
information anymore.
And
but the thing
is you can still draw
the comparison, you can
draw the through line.
And I don't know, when they first
became self-conscious of the power that they had,
it more or less shattered the country and reshaped
it, and that's what's brought us
here today.
We can sit here and talk about the elites
and who has all the money and all of that.
But ultimately these people, the elites,
and who has the money and all of that,
believe in narratives.
And the narratives that they believe in
are put out by increasingly desperate
and cornered
traditional left-wing media sources.
And they will go away, but the thing is
that vacuums tend to exist for a little bit
without anything to fill them.
I know that was a long ramble,
but that's kind of what I've been on recently.
And I think it very well compares to what happened in 2020.
I think if I were to choose Vietnam movies,
it would be platoon battle movies,
platoon, full metal jacket, hamburger hill.
And then at-home movies would be to just really
get the propaganda of everything is born on the 4th of July and Gardens of Stone.
Those are all really good movies.
So are you saying those as like correct depictions or depictions of the propaganda?
The ones at home would be, well, born on the 4th of July is obviously the propaganda.
Gardens of Stone, I think, there's a lot of propaganda in it, but it's a lot more realistic of
of the arguments.
Gardens of Stone is
one of my favorite movies of all time.
And it is the most...
I call it Apocalypse Now's good twin.
It was also directed by Coppola,
and I, canonically in my mind,
they think they take place in the same universe.
But it's the exact opposite of Apocalypse
now in every single way.
But Apocalypse Now kind of fits this narrative
But Gardens of Stone is one of the only,
like there's only like a handful of movies that you can pick
that actually depict sort of the real.
And I think Gardens of Stone is the most realistic depiction of America
at the time because in Gardens of Stone,
it's normal.
Life is normal.
Everyone is acting like a normal person in day-to-day life.
And I see in that,
I see the 1960s,
I see it's like a mix of today,
modern day life.
Especially for someone who's served,
Gardens of Stone is one of the most specific depictions of the army you'll ever see.
But,
but, you know,
for someone to serve,
it's so familiar to you,
you know,
but it's also so foreign.
This is the army that you hear stories about,
but it's also the army that you've lived and experienced on an everyday basis.
I don't mean to nerd out about that.
I know we've got one more topic to cover in super chats and all that,
and we're already almost at two hours,
but,
but,
like,
in terms of,
an actual not propaganda, like actually kind of depicts honest things happening.
Gardens of Stone is a good one because it actually focuses,
like the protest stuff is as much in the background as the war is.
The Green Berets starring John Wayne,
We Were Soldiers is actually somewhat honest.
Yeah, that's a, I mean, it's a hard-hitting movie.
It's a movie that you're going to react to emotionally.
too as well.
Yes.
But it's
it is honest,
right?
At least in some respects.
But,
you know, if you want to, like, but the thing is
that the narrative, the propaganda
is platoon.
It is Hamburger Hill. It's the deer hunter.
It's Rambo First Blood.
It's, um, apocalypse now even.
It's, it's,
it's, it's,
all of these.
I always put, I always put apocalypse
now as its own
like there is no other movie like that
especially the Redux version
there's like there's
that stands on it
I know it's a Vietnam movie
but it's so much more than a Vietnam movie too
sure sure and
it's an adaptation of Conrad
but ultimately the theme
and the message of the movie is that
war is an insane
drug trip that makes no sense
and even that in and of itself
kind of reinforces the
narrative in its own way. I love Apocalypse now, just so you know. But, you know,
anyway, we've gotten well off of Floyd.
Let's move. Yeah, let's move on.
Yeah, but this is, this is something that I'd encourage the readership to look into,
because the 60s really was like the first prototype, the first use of the stuff that
they've used even all the way through 2020. And it's, it's breaking down, but I don't
think anything will come to fill it. Anyway, bringing us to our final topic of the day,
Speaking of breaking down, the Democratic Party is having a hard time dealing with the fact that it was dealt its biggest electoral loss in a very long time.
So the Aryan champion, Mayor Pete, is trying to, has a new strategy to appeal to the young white men that they have lost.
Of course we should be talking about how, yeah, if, you know, Speaker Johnson got his way,
it wouldn't be possible not just for gay people to get married,
but for straight people to get divorced,
let alone like birth control or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever.
People, most people would have a problem.
Based, based, but everything he said so far as, I mean, it's like, okay,
let's, let's, let's fucking go.
Exactly.
I mean, they almost sound kind of like the last embers of early 2000s, new atheism.
and they think, oh, if we just make that look cool again, they'll come back.
But that's a dead and dying worldview that failed to deal with the realities of life,
and people don't want to go back to that.
They don't want to go back to their white boy libertarism with porn and everything.
It destroyed them, and those who have escaped don't look back at,
Well, don't look back at that because they view it like Sodom,
and if they look back, they'll fall of assault or something.
The movements of young white boys now is really just like,
you're either a Catholic trad or a vitalist.
That's really all there is,
and people that are tapping into that will win,
and people that want to disgorge that will not win.
Yeah, pick your flavor of extreme right-wing politics
is what young men are increasingly turning into.
to the horror of people like James Lindsay and, you know, the classical liberal crowd, the left-left me crowd,
where they, you know, young men are starting to realize that, you know, democracy doesn't work.
You know, as Jeff Dice said, democracy just tells you that you're not allowed to choose you.
You're not allowed to be on your own side.
You have to be on somebody else's side.
and people are starting to realize that they have to reject that or they die.
Do you remember in the last months of the Biden administration,
this meme was going around called the Social Contract,
and there were different national versions for different language groups.
You know, there's like a Portuguese version, a French version,
and a Spanish version, like Spain, Spanish,
or, you know,
an Italian version and whatever,
and it all had basically this 30-year-old,
there was American version, of course, too.
And it, you know,
you had this 30-year-old white guy
who's like this white collar super stressed,
and you see all of the places
that his labor was pouring into.
It's like, and, you know,
the white guy was named.
And it's like, via this entity,
it's going to Juan in Mexico,
or via this entity,
this other entity, it's going to
Simon and Linda, 65
and 70, right?
Who are going on a cruise
in the Caribbean or it's going to
you know,
Lashonda
and via snap.
Right.
And I think more and more
and more young white guys, particularly young
middle class white guys, realize that they are the only
net contributors in this system
just about everyone else
is living a far greater
lifestyle, a far better lifestyle where they have community, where they have, you know, they don't
worry about the same things and they are paying for all of it and they get nothing out of it.
They're just, they're kind of expected and in other ways they're kind of forced to do it.
And, you know, and the thing is with it, you know, like that meme is spreading around
so many young white guys, young middle class white guys,
they felt something's wrong for a very long time.
It's just they felt as though the whole state apparatus exists to ensure that they can't do anything about it.
It exists to ensure that they can't find a way to have their labor contribute to something other than this stuff.
and even the stuff that was kind of given to them to placate them,
you know, that was very bad for them, but, you know, video games, porn, drugs,
these other things, you know, even that,
because that's a horrible, empty hollow existence,
but, but, and it's unsustainable,
but even that wasn't left alone.
Gamergate's what's brought us all here,
at least that's the popular narrative,
is that Gamergate is what brought us all here.
And I said it earlier,
but this signaling from
people like Pete
whose last name is literally but gay
his last name is literally but gay
you know
Gavin Newsom is doing the same thing
is it's like the only thing that I think some elements
of the Democratic Party the quote unquote moderates
you know or the DNC types
who are outside of the activist class
I think what they're trying to do
or they're trying to signal is they're like the centrist,
the adults are back in the room,
the party of power is coming back
and, you know,
Newsom is like the second coming of Bill Clinton.
You know,
it's like,
oh,
we're going to finally put a normal guy who,
you know,
and hey,
we're going to let you have your porn back
in your video games and da-da-da-da.
It's very out of touch.
It's very out of touch.
It's,
you know,
happy new year,
2012.
It,
it's, it's not, they're not in the game functionally.
If this is, if this is what they're signaling,
if this is what they're coming up with.
And they're trying to hope to kind of,
they're signaling to the Joe Rogan, the left, left me crowd.
I don't know how much of value this is,
but apparently Joe Rogan's been attending church.
You know, like, that's, that's a signal.
Like, the left, left me crowd has realized, oh, well, you know,
there is no left left left.
Um, and so looks like we've got to start changing to fit the, the world.
Because Rogan's savvy.
He wouldn't have the show he has if he wasn't.
I think he understands where the wind is growing, where the wind is blowing and where his audience is going.
So I'm not saying it's entirely cynical, but, hey, go ahead.
In that article I sent you that I wrote recently, I, I call this like, they're entropic people.
When political cap, when the ability.
to create political capital
collapses
and you're left in this
entropic state where you can't
really create energy
you try to just find any dopamine hit
you can find and that's really what
Pete Buttigey here is
offering are
entropic little
bubbles of energy to feel like you're doing something
when you're just getting older and dying
you're not actually doing anything
you're either a ghost dancer
for dead people
or just this
really like a crab in a bucket
crabs in a bucket
pulling people back down at entropy
and if you can manage
to convince people
that that's what it is
if you can shoo away the bullshit that they wrap it in
and just show them eyes wide open
that it's just entropy
they'll never vote for it again
the key is to make that clear
because people will fall for it they're that desperate
A large amount of this country is that
desperate that if Trump fails, they will
want to go with the Democrats, and that
will give them the political capital to destroy
everyone like us.
They have to be
exposed for the entropic people
they are.
I think this is going to be my final
thoughts before we go into the
super chats and bring this ship home.
If anyone
from the Trump administration
or anyone who is in the Trump administration
or has a line to the Trump administration
Stephen Miller, if you're listening,
I doubt he is. He's so busy.
Probably doesn't have time. But if someone,
someone, anyone in our audience.
Baron? Barron.
I don't, I don't care who.
You have to understand.
This is a meme at this point.
I don't know a better way to articulate it.
You don't know what time it is,
or at least you're not acting like you do.
You're not acting like you do.
You are not moving fast enough.
You are not moving swift enough.
You need to stop thinking about the midterms.
You need to stop thinking about, you know,
getting a successor in in 2028.
No, you can't do that.
Because if you fail, if you fail, right,
if you fail and no one else is coming after you,
You know, maybe within your own apparatus, you might be able to establish some kind of Trumpian resistance movement within some GOPs in some states.
But it'll be disjointed because this is the problem with cults of personality.
Once the big man, once the leader is gone, it shatters.
Right.
And so this is the thing is you all, whoever is listening or whoever can bring this to the administration, they need to know this is that.
And I give them the benefit of the doubt.
but if you do not permanently destroy the Democratic Party and the left using state power,
frankly, both within and without your government, if you do not do that,
they are going to come back in 2028 or 2032 or 2036.
They're patient. They're patient.
You know, they've got money.
They can figure it out.
They'll shore up.
they'll try to rebuild a new political narrative.
When they come back, we are all going to be killed.
We are all going to be killed.
The future of the Democratic Party is not Gavin Newsom or Pete or whomever else.
It is the young activist class that is going to be handed the keys to the kingdom
because they're the only one there to get it,
and they are going to use it to enact their ideological,
goals on the population that has resisted them.
On the population of this country, middle Americans fly over, whatever you want to call them,
heritage, whatever.
White people is what they are going to affect it on.
Your base.
Your base.
Who put you in the White House that you built a coalition on the backs of?
Those white evangelicals who cling to their guns.
guns in their religion put you and your administration in the White House.
And if you go away, there's no one protecting those people anymore.
The state will be weaponized in a blatant and militant and violent fashion.
And these people will be dispossessed.
They will be killed.
They will be exiled from the country.
They will scatter and this country will be gone.
The curtain of darkness will descend on the land and it will be unresolved.
unrecognizable and it will, I don't, it will never be the America that you love ever again.
So if you, I don't know the models you're using and I don't know the data you're using.
And I don't know if maybe you've calculated that the military has enough high level officers that they won't go with you,
that there will, there is a very high likelihood of a military coup on behalf of the Democratic Party.
And that's a real threat. I understand that.
Given the loyalties of certain senior officials in the Pentagon, I understand that's a threat.
But you can beat them to the punch.
And in all honesty, it wouldn't surprise me if they're organizing one right now.
You know, it's like Operation Blue in 1941.
You know, if you're not going to strike first, they will.
You know, you bring up a good point.
Elon Musk did not ask to come back when his term expired this week.
and he has powerful friends
and if they do not feel confident
that this administration can do more
than bitch on Twitter
they're going to find some other group
to prop up with their money and it will be
you and your midterms coming up
and
again I just
I have to say
Elon Musk is not our friend
I don't like the things he pays for
but they're going to start carving
into your corpse of a party
if you don't man up. Bitching on Twitter that the judges stopped you is not sufficient.
And powerful, wealthy elite, not in the Democrat Party,
are just as eager to claw into the corpse of the GOP as the Democrats are,
and you will be left penniless and powerless at these two ravens eating you alive.
And then what's going to happen to us?
your loyal army of posters and signal boosters and you know
I'm going to probably speak for a little bit longer here
when I was at the Old Glory Club conference
I'm not going to name any names but I'm going to tell you the kind of people that were there
the kind of people at this Old Glory Club conference are
the people who make this country run
lawyers doctors junior officers in the military
on, off duty, of course, but, you know, cops, people who work in government, political staffers on the state level, on the federal level, you know, local government, people who are involved there, entrepreneurs, corporate executive, sales guys, independently wealthy, basically the middle of the society, right, the most dynamic aspect that
the society, the people who keep this country running on a day-to-day basis, that is the kind of
people who were there. It is the best that the country has to offer. It is the most civic-minded,
the most community-minded. And two-thirds of them were affiliated with a chapter. And the one-third
that wasn't is a great many of them are starting, are looking to get affiliated. What's going to
happen to them.
What's going to happen to them
if this doesn't work,
if the left gets back in?
You know, what's going to happen
to, what's going to happen to them?
They're going to be like the Kulox in Ukraine,
you know, or the Rhodesians,
or the Boers in South Africa.
But where is there, where is there for them to go?
where am I going to go?
Am I going to go to Argentina?
Am I going to go to Ireland?
Am I going to go to Canada?
Am I going to go to Australia or New Zealand?
Where is there for me to go?
Am I going to die here in a country that isn't mine anymore that's been taken from me?
Is that what's going to have to happen?
Am I going to have to bury my son here?
What you have to understand, this is still directed to anyone in the administration who is even tangentially connected who may be listening, you are our leaders. You are our chief and we stand ready to hear your call. We will do what needs to be done. You found that out. Let's just say on a winners, on a winter's morning a few years ago.
You found that out.
If you're waiting for advanced term, you can't.
You can't wait for advanced term.
You can't.
You need to act now.
We do not have time to wait for advance term.
I oscillate between we have 10 years and we have 10 months.
The clock is ticking.
The clock is ticking.
I understand it's only been five months, but the clock is ticking.
If you can't make these decisions and make good on them
and you're just going to keep complaining on Twitter
and you're not going to just confront a Rubicon moment
when it comes before you,
then this country is gone.
So I'm going to cease speaking now.
I sign off on everything he just said.
Yep, it's the cruel reality of the cards you've been played
in the hour in which you decided to start playing.
It's not 2004 anymore.
It's 2025.
and this country is falling apart
and it is not going to stop falling apart
if all you can do is complain about it.
I do not want to die here
at the age of, you know,
let's say my late 20s.
I don't want to have to bury my son here or my family here.
I don't want to have to do that.
You know, if this were a normal world,
I wouldn't even be here.
If this were a normal world,
I'd be looking at captain right now
and I'd be happily serving
you know in
Korea or somewhere
right
if this were a normal world
that's what I would be doing
you know you would have
you know the I would be
you know I wouldn't even question things
you know I
it's not that I wouldn't question things
but here I am
and here the rest of us are all of you
all 450 of you who are still watching
and you know
the other two
gentlemen who are with me this evening. We're all here because things aren't normal. And you're the
only one right now, President Trump. You are the only one right now who can fix things. And if you
can't do it, we're not going to get a second chance. So don't wait to put Vance in. Don't wait to
put whomever in. The country is going to die if you don't do something. So please do something.
All right.
Anything else before we go to Super Chats?
No.
I don't think there's anything else to say.
The Super Chats will make the mood a bit more upbeat before we end.
All right.
So starting back up again where we left off, Hunter counts for 10 U.S. dollars.
Thank you, sir.
He says, to Paul's point about a political void post-Democrats,
I believe it is incumbent on us to see that as opportunity.
one that organizations like the OGC and their progeny should be preparing to take advantage of.
Well, the OGC is an explicitly apolitical organization.
However, we very much endorse and support the civic engagement of all of our members and chapters as individual citizens.
So, son of Haster for $5.
He says, powerful panel tonight.
Thank you, sir.
He says, my friends have started recognizing my username from Superchats, even outside my chapter.
Jay, you should just join already.
Well, Jay, if you are listening and you know Mr. Son of Haster, you should join.
And if you don't, you're a chicken.
So what are you going to do with that?
Anyway, Mr. Mellon for five U.S. dollars.
Thank you, sir.
He says, in other news, got a new fruit tree in the ground yesterday.
Thank you, sir.
The Shire building will, or thank.
Congratulations, sir.
Apologies.
I picked the wrong default response.
The Shire building will continue in between trips to make friends in the city.
both. Absolutely. As a matter of fact, that was one of the speeches. I think Mr. Capitalissimo had
the event where he said that the cities are not lost to us and efforts should be made to start
reclaiming them. And that certainly did create a buzz. All right. Seasider for 10 U.S. dollars,
he sends a salute. Thank you, sir. Jay Forte for $10. He says, Paul,
last time I was on Skyline Drive hiking with my wife, we ran into Indians everywhere,
playing music on speaker phones in the woods. Yeah, it's, they ruin just about everywhere they go.
it's about that loud around them too
Don Browning
for sends a 20 U.S. dollars
with a super sticker of a samurai cat
waving a flag with number one written on it.
I like to think Don Browning puts a great deal of
a great deal of thought into the stickers that she sends us.
So thank you very much.
You unfortunately cannot join the Old Glory Club,
but we're grateful for your support.
Thomas Wayne Riley,
president of the newly constituted
New Mexico chapter, if I remember correctly, sends this in for $15 U.S. dollars.
Thank you, sir.
He says, entrance to national parks for non-Americans should be Disney World Prices, astronomical,
free for Heritage Americans.
So true.
I did a whole episode on fixing the national parks on my show and got a hilarious review.
Quote, TWR is the reason that I would rather meet a bear than a man in that back country camping.
So true.
So true.
well thank you sir
next up
hamorraine for nine dollars a ninety nine cents
he says quote how to count illegals
they say census wrong what means
unquote
yeah I agree
I mean I think actually I've I've heard some things
I don't know if you gentlemen have heard
but that the the census is purposefully
collected in such a way as to mislead
the actual reality
of who's here
and that the situation is actually much worse
than we thought. And actually, that reminds me, this is a, this is a, I know we're going over here,
but I wanted to put this in real quick. I was looking at a data point for an unrelated personal
study I was doing about the ratio of men and women at a marriageable age, like specifically,
like early, late teens, early 20s, mid-20s, which is marriageable age. And normally at that age,
the ratio of the United States, or not the, of almost every, you know, of almost
every society skews in favor of women
because I think more men
are born than women slightly
but more women
survive to adulthood and to marriage
age than men do, even
at an early age. And
I looked at the ratio
of, you could say military age for men
and
it was skewed in favor of men.
And
I just about fell out of
my chair because that's like almost an iron
clad demographic rule is there's always more women than men at that age in any in any given
society and so many people had come into the country that's immediately what was connected so many
people have come into the country that the ratio of men to women at marriage age is skewed in favor of
men that's interesting that that should scare the crap out of you you know i i will say i've seen
evidence that
why a lot
of people are leaving willingly
without being caught.
I hope so.
Most
housing projects where I live
have paused.
No one's available to work on them.
Most
well not most like people
wealthy people I know
I've heard them
well not I don't know them.
Wealthy people I pass by in the
wealthy parts of Manhattan, I sometimes
hear complaining that their mechanic
got deported or their gardener
got deported or their chef
got deported. These are rich people with chefs
in their house.
The chef got deported and oh
if only could find a white person
to work as hard as that because they're that
kind of thinkers.
I hear that in the grapevine
in bars and
little things in Manhattan where the rich people
gather.
I see evidence that it is
picking up. Whether or not these numbers
are, like,
in
trust the plan, utopia,
delusion, maybe they're not even reporting
how many they're deporting. I don't know.
But there is tangential
evidence that the numbers all
are going up
in where I live, especially in the
past two months. I'm hopeful
that trend continues.
I hope so, too. I know, Pete,
you always say that there's an army here,
and I think there's not just one.
all right um yeah there's an army waiting waiting to be led yeah
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Thank you, sir.
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All right,
that sums it up.
So I think we've all said
everything we need to say.
Pete, you have anything to show?
Pete Substack.com.
The Piquino show.
on Pete Substack.com. That's it.
Excellent. Crenge, you got anything to show?
I wrote something for substack.
Dave seemed to like it. He said it was decent.
I don't know if you said that.
He retweeated it in substack.
So my substack is, I'm getting more active there as I depart from the Twitter Slopsphere.
I'm writing two more articles. Hopefully be done within a week or two on some of the things I mentioned here.
that's about it.
All right, excellent.
All right, thank you very much.
Don't I have nothing to show.
I don't do anything anymore except support the Old Glory Club.
Join the Old Glory Club.
Get involved with the Old Glory Club at gmail.com.
Please contact us if you want to get involved with a chapter.
You don't know if there's one near you.
You could also just go to the Old Glory Club.com
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Or if you Google Old Glory Club will be the first thing that comes up.
You can go to the chapters page.
We have, I think, 27 chapters now in almost as many states.
I think actually the number is up because we approved a few more recently.
Most recent chapters that were approved, I think, were the Maryland and New Mexico chapters.
So if you're in Maryland or New Mexico, try to get involved with them.
Otherwise, I don't know if they're on the website yet, but we'll update it.
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That's all I got to say.
So thank you all very much for joining us.
evening. Thank you to Mr. Dave, the distributist for joining us. Thank you, Mr. Pete, and Mr. L.
Thamplar for joining us as always, and I hope you all have a very good evening. God bless you.
