The Pete Quiñones Show - 06/05/2025 - Old Glory Club Livestream - Got Milk?

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So, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome back. Mr. Pete Cignonas. How are you, sir? Doing well. Let's do this. Thank you for coming back, Pete. And also joining me this evening is Mr. Raging Mandel. How are you, sir? Doing great. Thank you, sir.

And, of course, our special guest joining us this evening is Mr. Semiagog. How are you this evening? I am very well, gentlemen. Happy to be here. I never joined OGC, but I seem to be friends with almost all of you. So very happy to be here and hang out again. Yes, a friend of the club, indeed. And you're always welcome here.

And I thank you very much for joining us this evening. Um, it's been a, unfortunately, it's been a rather slow news week and a rather slow newsday. So, um, and nothing really major has happened. So we only have a couple of, a couple of stories to talk about of some of some import, though. Uh, first and foremost, starting us off this evening, uh, secretary of defense Pete Hegseth, who, you know, despite some, you know, one or two blotches here or there has been doing relatively well. Recently, I believe he ordered that the USS Harvey Milk, which is a part of a class of naval, I'm not a Navy guy, so I don't know anything about ships, but a part of a class of ships be renamed. What it will be renamed to has not yet been announced, but personally, I think this is a great

step in the right direction. People like Harvey Milk need to be damned in memory and completely forgotten about. Yeah, apparently, it's some sort of oil. which as far as I can understand it is designed in a support role. I guess it's like a coaling ship from back in the days of Teddy Roosevelt's Great White Fleet. It provides fuel and ammunition and supplies. And as best I can tell, this whole class of ships has been named after civil rights leaders. So you've got your John Lewis, your Thurgood Marshall, your Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Yeah. the John Lewis class of Oilers. The whole class is named after civil rights figures. My frequent guests on the show and also on a young

Jay Burden show, Clay Martin, former Speckop, he said we should really just rename it the USS Liberty and leave it at that. Controversial. If I may jump in here, I'm just going to go ahead and take the whole conversation. This is your thing, man.

All right. So, yes, this is the US and S Harvey Milk. These ships are, of course, supply ships. They do underway replenishment, a very important function for the U.S. Navy, which allows them to do replenishment of fuel and supplies at sea, so you don't have to

pull into ports to do refueling operations, that sort of thing. Very operationally critical. These are high value units. They're strategically important units, which is why the symbolism has been applied the way it has. But they're also not combat units. So it allows them to kind of sort of get away with it up until now. And so the John Lewis class is a replacement for the Henry J. Kleiser class,

which is the class of ship, which is doing the exact same job. It looks almost exactly the same visually, unless you're like a subject matter expert. The ship layout is almost perfectly identical, just from like an average observer's point of view. And I think this is a good time to point out that this is an attempt, not just symbolically, but literally to, turn the fleet into a different direction and on a new course.

This is, of course, after everybody might remember from last year, the USNS Big Horn's collision and mishap. And that came out fairly shortly after they announced the John Lewis class and that the USS Harvey Milk would even be a thing. So this is literally Hegsef trying to use. the symbolic renaming of this particular ship to get to the Navy going in a different direction. And as we have logged on this particular program, the Navy is not in a good spot by any means. No, absolutely.

Real quick, I just, irony came in. My profile picture is rear Admiral Bird, and I don't know anything about the Navy. So I guess that's stolen valor. But no, yes, the United States is a naval empire where a fallacy, this is a large part of the reason why our capital is still in Washington, D.C. Because right next door to Washington, D.C. is the Chesapeake Bay. And the Chesapeake Bay is probably the best single piece of naval staging geography on the planet. It's something like, I think, like several dozen, if not several hundred ports on top of each other. Every river on all of those peninsulas is its own port.

and there are several sub-rivers and sub-ports along the way. That's why historically the Hampton Roads has been the center of American shipbuilding, Newport News, Norfolk, places like that. And that's a large part of the reason why Washington, D.C. remains there because this whole military industrial complex more or less stretches from that city down to Virginia Beach and that area. And we use that naval staging area functionally to manage the rest of the world, to manage global trade lanes and the like.

However, I mean, I think actually, you know, Zahan's conclusions are horrible, but his analysis is usually pretty good. And Zihans analysis when he states that if the United States as a naval empire wanted to maintain functionally protected trade lanes, it would be building thousands upon thousands of destroyers and a great deal of ships like this,

like the hopefully soon to be not John Lewis class, to supply them, but we're not. most of our Navy is mostly tied up into these very large carriers, these nuclear carriers, which are functionally one rocket away from being at the bottom of the ocean. And even if they were used properly are really used for clobbering a near peer force, which isn't immediately forthcoming on the world stage, at least in my judgment, I could be wrong. But do any you gentlemen have any comments on that? Not even talking about the age. of the ships that we have.

But do any of you have any comments on the on the state of America as a maritime empire's capability to force projected sea? Well, as we mentioned last year, the official government sources are now directly reporting that shipbuilding is substantially behind. We law, like you can look this up, but the FFG 62, the new Constellation Class frigate, which is supposed to be a basically a direct, American knockoff of some of the French and Italian frigates, which have been around now for several years. And it's also supposed to be a pure competitor vessel of the Russian and Chinese

latest and greatest frigate classes. That's three years behind as of last year. So, I mean, one of the great benchmarks is to see if that three-year mark actually gets reduced by any time period or if it consistently stays three years a year or two years into the future, that's going to be a huge benchmark. I think the other huge benchmark is, of course, symbolically, this is one ship, and you're not actually attacking the symbol of the John Lewis class, right? You're not taking away the name of the class. You're just renaming one singular ship, which, hmm,

you're not actually fundamentally contesting that ground symbolically. Yeah, it seems like something timed in terms of PR to coincide with people's views about the business of a Pride Month and it being pushed so much front and center by our government and these associations with the military. We don't have to get into what a sordid figure, Milk himself was, because you could almost assume that, or indeed assume it. So, yeah, I have one question that I wanted to bring up just, you know, for the military guys here. I never confirmed it. I heard that we were forbidden from returning to naming the U.S. military bases after Confederate generals by some sort of legislation.

Is it true that Hegsef or whomever, you know, is on his team, came up. up with this idea of just finding a different guy named Benning, for example? Is that what was actually done? Yes, I was actually discussing that of all places a surplus store today. I was actually discussing that. Yes, he found other like a private whose last name was Benning or like a sergeant whose last name was Bragg or something like that who won like a Medal of Honor or a silver star or something to that effect as functionally a placeholder.

And it's a valiant effort in my judge. It's an attempt to restore at least a semblance of what was lost, but the fact that their hands are tied by Congress from restoring the bases to their actual true names, and they have to kind of pass this counterfeit. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design. They move you, even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range for Mentor, Leon, and Teramar.

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producing culture so all of these military bases are functionally cultural you're producing factories, all these ships, particularly fleet resupply ships that everyone in the fleet will be familiar with, because this ship, I would assume, resupplies all sorts of other ships. These are heavily symbolic culture manufacturers, and who you name them after is functionally who is glorified, even if the person saying the name doesn't even know who they are. and this attempt to rename, I think, is at least somewhat appreciated, but it's too haphazard, and it's, in my opinion, it's simply resisted by most of the entrenched middle officer class that has been heavily purged since the Obama purges and later on.

Well, yeah, we definitely... Oh, sorry, Pete. Yeah, judging by, you know, going by those... A little speech that has been clipped and is making the rounds that you gave on last week's live stream, and if something doesn't change, you know, we're looking at like the USS, I'm on my break unless we can, you know, get something different going on here. So unless real change and these people are utterly destroyed and, you know, made into a cautionary tale.

And just to hammer the point about the important. of this being an opportunity to present the the naval strength of the United States, the military strength of the United States as it tours the world. That's what Roosevelt was doing with his great white fleet, of course, followed around by all the support vessels provided by Britain because we were basically being brought on to police the Pacific for them as an adjunct to Japan. But that's why all their ships were painted white. And it was called

the Great White Fleet and it sailed around the world saying the United States is now an even more significant naval power and something to be reckoned with. So yeah, you come into port and you're at your birth or whatever and the people who are working there, you know, bringing in your supplies and the rest. They're like, you know, what, who's this guy, Harvey Milk? And you can see immediately how that just would become a basis for scorn abroad. So I'm happy to see it, but I agree with you guys. It needs to go much deeper. Absolutely.

And I think as the fleet continues to decline, and if attempts to reform it are hamstrung by Congress and by other institutions, particularly entrenched interests within the senior officer corps and the Pentagon, I don't see a positive future coming from that. Do any of you gentlemen have any final thoughts on this story before we move on? All right. Hearing none, one of the things that this reminds me of is not, the United States not only has vulnerabilities and weaknesses in its fleet beyond our shores, but we also have a great

amount of weaknesses on our shores. And I think nothing demonstrates that better than something that happened overseas. Recently, I'm sure you've all heard, a massive drone swarm attack was carried out by Ukraine on Russia. I think there were a whole bunch of, I think, nuclear-capable bombers parked out on an airstrip that the Ukrainians were able to smuggle in drones in semi-trucks, if I remember correctly. They were driven up very close to this airfield, and they were simply released, and they suicided onto these bombers. which are strategic nuclear capable on this airstrip. And even if it's relatively minor in terms of how it will affect the Ukraine war

or how it will affect negotiations as it's proven to be, it hasn't caused any change in demands or negotiations that I've seen so far, it is a very heavily symbolic act in the minds of military theorists and the world over because it demonstrates that fourth-generation warfare in the fact, that everything can be a weapon. Fifth Generation Warfare is a marketing term. It's not real. Fourth generation warfare is the correct way to refer to it, where just about anything can be utilized as a weapon. Civilian supply lines, civilian industries, media, et cetera. And anyone, like the Taliban or the Houthis, you know, people who are functionally, you know, otherwise using rocks and sticks, can

learn very quickly how to employ this massive sophisticated. technology to brutal effectiveness, I think it demonstrates the capacity for weaknesses within internal supply chains and within civil society itself. And the story doesn't end here. There are two other stories that happen this week that lead to this. But before we talk about them, do you gentlemen have any thoughts about this attack on Russian bombers in the Ukraine or in Russia, I suppose? Well, yes. To me, it smacks of the sort of emphasis on special operations and sneaky, tricky, nastiness that has been sort of central to the warfare mythology of the Anglophone world since World War II.

And, you know, I grew up on it, you know, watching, you know, things like the Guns of Navarone, or whatever with my father. And it's sort of been central to our thinking. And it's also, as of course, the Russians themselves have pointed out, it's basically PR in many respects. And PR has value. But I posted about this sometime back, you know, the assassins, the hashishin, the old man of the mountain, Alamut, you know, high in the Persian mountains.

you have this sect of crazy Shiites who are willing to murder anyone and to sacrifice the lives of their operatives in order to kill the Grand Vizier of the Seljuk, Nizal Mulk, or whatever. And they had a great deal of success with these absolutely brazen, wild operations, terrorist acts, you know, intended for political influence, these kinds of things. I'm not characterizing what was done in Russia exactly like that. But when you come across an Asiatic power familiar with waging total warfare, certainly a traditional war at scale rather than a sequence of special operations carried out at a great distance from centers of supply and the rest, the results, I think, of what happened with the Mongols and the assassins in Persia is a cautionary tale. They just basically marched up into the mountains to this previously impregnable fortress and invested it.

And today there's scarcely one stone that remains standing atop another and all that archaeologists have been able to find is broken pottery. So, you know, this plucky idea of the bold behind the lines raid, the clever bombing and the rest, while useful as PR does not do a great deal for the actual war effort in this case of the Ukrainians. And it just irritates the hive of the Russian population and increases presumably its resoluteness to have done with all of this. So I think there's something about it. Sorry, I've been rather long-winded about it, but there's something about this attachment to the idea of special operations. and the way in which our emphasis on it, which I really do think comes from the Brits,

ultimately after World War II during and after, I think it is in some sense is detrimental to all these other aspects of the military. I mean, think about Eisenhower. As I recall, he was all about logistics, but he was perhaps one of the most important people at the top of, you know, staff command, because all of these other things matter, like, you know, oilers and refueling ships and logistic chains. And yet the focus is, so far as the public is concerned,

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Recently, there was an IED that was found in North Carolina off of the Blue Ridge Parkway, which you see all right there. It's a very culturally significant route. I don't think anyone knows who planted it there or why. I'm sure if someone's read follow-up stories, they might be able to tell us. But there was an IED, an incendiary device that says right here that was on the Blue Ridge Parkway. So it very much appears that these sorts of small special operations, you know, flea bites in the grand scheme of things are starting to come here, a nation which, at least very recently, has not known a great deal of danger on our shores.

On top of this IED that was found recently, two Chinese nationals were arrested. I forget in what university or what state, somewhere in the Midwest, but they had smuggled a specific, yeah, a fungus into the United States that causes a blight to wheat, barley, corn, rice, etc. And I'm sure, you know, it wouldn't have been as simple. Spreading blight to crops, especially crops as heavily as treated as those in the United States, isn't that simple of a matter. But, you know, it demonstrates that these little flea bites, these, you know, thousand cuts of warfare could very possibly, it's one thing in my judgment to use them against a, I don't want to say a power with dead in nerves. an Oriental power like the Russians. It's one thing to use that against them, but to use them against such a highly interdependent infrastructure that hasn't known disruptions like this for a while, such as the United States,

I think it's very possible that these tactics that the public has been focused on that we've been using could be employed to much greater effect against us than by us. Well, it really brings up the question of how do we protect ourselves against this, from what I understand, or what's being reported. I think this is official, that they just basically sent those drones over the border into Russia, and they were released from a cargo container or the back of a truck. From listening to Mike Shelby this week, early in the week, he was talking about how 1% of our cargo containers are checked coming over, coming through, you know, being taken off a ship from overseas. So as those are put on trains, put on trucks, put, you know, whatever, they're just making their way through the country. and pretty much open to anything happening. I mean, no one's ever really,

I don't know if anyone's ever come up with the China balloon from a couple years ago, if that was just an op, whatever it was, the drones over New Jersey. I mean, I have a tendency to believe those are probably ours. But, yeah, it seems very easy. It seems like it would be very easy for someone to pull off. attacking an American city

and we'd probably be setting ducks. Yeah, and I would add that, you know, there's been all kinds of things going on for quite some time now that we tend to consider when we consider them at all as isolated instances rather than putting them together as a pattern. You know, Mandrill probably can say more about it, but there was that ship, I believe, that was being refitted or certainly it was in port on the west coast in which a huge fire broke out and destroyed many millions of dollars of, you know, naval assets, if I remember correctly, there's, of course, all the wildfires that we've been dealing with. Certainly, we've seen quite a bit going on with the Ukrainian special forces trying to derail Russian trains, because

as the military guys here, probably know the Russians emphasize rail logistics much more than, you know, truck-based road-based logistics. And we have, you know, things like trains derailing in Ohio and causing massive problems. So, you know, I think we're wide open to it at present. And that's without getting into the whole idea of what's been sunk in concrete in some of our cities as a nasty surprise. for later, you know, across the last 50 years. A late friend of mine who was involved in special forces in the military said he would have, he wouldn't be surprised at all if any number of countries had smuggled, you know,

nuclear weapons into the United States and sunk them down in concrete beneath the city for use later. I'm not trying to, like, freak everyone out, and I don't know that to be the case. but if I were a potential opponent at the United States, I would have seen to it that that would have been taken care of a long time ago. I have some, I'm happy to know that there is detection for radiation on the highways. I remember reading some news stories about truck, I think it was full of Chinese toys in which some mildly radioactive thing had been used in the paint or something of this sort. I'm probably messing up the details, but the bottom line was it was a Chinese product and taken individually there wasn't all that much radiation, but a truck full of the product going down the highway triggered the radiation detectors.

So we do have some infrastructure in place to spot some things. I think those are those weird sort of white plasticy looking boxes that stick out over the road near truckway stations. But we're not entirely without defense. But, you know, simply the size, our land borders, our sea borders, the permeability of those borders means that these concerns are very, very real indeed. Particularly when you get involved with stuff like fungus and blights, in my own part of the country, there is this invasive species of Asian lady beetle that's just horrific. You know, when they spawn really badly, they fill my house on having to vacuum them up constantly.

They were originally released as a way to control aphids. but as it turns out, I've looked into these little bugs and they carry a kind of microsporidia, something I guess similar to a fungus to which they are immune, but other species of ladybug in the United States, it kills them. So, you know, for a group of people as cunning

and able to plan long term as the Chinese, and that's just one example of them, you know, I don't mean to foam at the mouth about the chikoms. But for any subtle and careful people, there are enormous opportunities that the public, indeed, maybe the security and intelligence services tasked with defending us. They wouldn't even really notice these things for some time before it was too late. Indeed, they never recognized that it was not an accident, plausible deniability being as

important as it is. Yeah, I think you might have referred to the Bonhamershard there, Semiyag. That was the burning of a USS LHD class ship a few years ago. And if I remember correctly, because I was following the story pretty heavily back when it first broke out, they did eventually catch the guy who set that fire. And as I remember, it was a U.S. Navy sailor of all things. and I think he got UCMJ'd and went to prison for a very long time. Okay, so it wasn't an accident.

It certainly wasn't an accident. No, no, it was not. I mean, that was clear from the beginning. Like that kind of, you don't, to set a fire that can melt steel and metal of that requires very high temperatures, and you need to have some kind of accelerant and the fuel required to actually do that level of damage. So are you saying that certain types of fire started by certain types of fuel cannot necessarily melt steel? Yes. Yeah, yeah, this is where investigation comes in.

It's just the chemistry of it, of fire starting, like everybody who's ever taken a fire safety course knows the fire tetrahedron, right, or the fire triangle, if there's some source. just prefer, but you need the three ingredients or the four ingredients really to start the fire. And if you don't have one of those, you can't actually do it and proper fuel. Now, there you go. There you go. There's the fire right there. Man, that looks bad. I've never seen that picture before.

Okay. Wow. But yes, it needs a certain, like, chemical reaction to create the blaze. to actually melt steel bulkheads, which is what happened with the Bonham Rochard. And why, I mean, this was actually a critical incident because it was in the shipyards at the time. So all of the bulkheads are all open. There's like, you know, ventilation shafts running through the ship. You know, people are random people from the contracting yards are going through it all the time when it was happening.

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Is that like that Winnebago in Nashville from the 2020 era? Yeah, something like that. Oh, that one, yeah, that just blew up outside. the data center and we've never heard anything about it ever again. There was a second. There was, oh, no, I don't remember that one. Shit, I was thinking of something else.

Forgive me, please. Or the Tesla that randomly exploded outside Trump Tower in Las Vegas and everyone immediately forgot about that. Speaking of Tesla, what about, what about, going up? Go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, there's a, there's a pattern I'm noticing

with a lot of the Tesla arson cases. You know, it reminds me because I've been going over, you know, Burroughs' days of rage book again recently, and like basically the weather underground and all of the related terrorist groups of the period started, you know, doing arson to car dealerships for some reason. And so it just makes me wonder. Just makes me wonder. Indeed.

Well, you know, the explosion that happened recently at the natal clinic? in California. Oh yeah, I heard about that, but I don't know a lot about it. Yeah, there was a second arrest made in that this week, and no one's reporting on it, is a 31-year-old American-born Korean. They arrested him in Poland, and he was, they're saying he is,

he supposed, allegedly was responsible for procuring and transmitting to this guy 150 pounds of, what is it, anphal? Anfro? Anfam. What am I thinking of? Ammonium nitrate. Yes, ammonia.

Yeah. And apparently helped him to figure out how to use it. Yeah. Yeah. So who's this guy? Why did they arrest him in Poland? Where do you get it from? What the fuck's going on with this one?

Yeah. Poland is a very interesting place for him to head off to, given what's going on with war there and that being a staging ground for, you know, military and intelligence assets of the West. Yeah, what is going on there? This is what we have been warning about. And it's just, I think these are just trial runs.

My, am I, you know, of course, I'm just conspiracy theorists. I got my tinfoil hat on over here, but you seem like trial runs to me. Yeah, and if I were, tasked with bringing down a country or sewing chaos within it internally you know

you would think that you would bring to bear a whole range of things you know and I would go past fourth generation warfare and call it unrestricted warfare and we've seen of course the economic aspects of it, the social aspects, the cultural aspects the encouragement of

war essentially of all against all you know the generations being encouraged to war with each other talking about this cohort and that cohort being bad, war between the sexes themselves, between the men and the women, war of the individuals within the country against their own body, cutting parts of it off. And so the political troubles, economic, agricultural,

there's so much that could be done. And because I was born at night, but not last night, I tend to be at least as suspiciously minded as you are, Pete, you know? Yeah. Yeah, this is just too frequent. Too frequent now, and it's getting, you know, it used to be, oh, let's put it in a rider truck. And, well, how did they get that? It was supplied to them by the, you know, by basically intelligence, intelligence agencies.

but yeah, I'm sure there's some kind of backing with these kind of things, but right now we don't know. And if they're not investigating it and trying to figure everything out. And once again, who knows if they're even going to tell us? Because it brings us to a topic, you know, about, that I think is going to come up just over the horizon here in a moment, which is this whole idea of data aggregation, surveillance, how data gets used.

This certainly could be turned to the purposes of ever more granular surveillance within the country. And I'm not, you know, given the fact that the threats are real, I'm not against that in principle. But if we come back to the whole, you know, famous Roman, statement about who watches the watchers. You know, I have my suspicions about, you know, people like Thiel and whether or not he does ultimately have our own best interest in mind. I don't know, you know, one way or another, but this sort of thing and the fact that we are

wide open to attacks of this sort in many respects, you know, sets the stage for the question about how to deal with it. And the fact, you know, after 9-11, we certainly saw how the Patriot the Patriot Bill, you know, increased the power of people that, you know, we don't think a great deal of. And it would be arguable whether or not it ever really did anything to make us safe. I mean, I don't know how you feel,

but going through TSA and having some black guy X-ray my shoes, it doesn't make me feel any safer. You know, actually, that's a good sense. segue to our next topic. But before we introduce it, we have it up on the screen here, before we introduce it, I want to comment on something that you talked about is how this will be used to justify ever greater micro security details. And I think in all honesty, this is largely because of the, frankly, I think material solutions and technological solutions are a how should I say going to material and technological solutions or rather not innovation itself but scaling preexisting and making more ubiquitous preexisting solutions is a is a failure of I think cultural or organizational technology rather than a a triumph of what I guess what Spangler would call techniques and I'm not talking about innovation the creation of an otherwise completely unknown

technology, which is done by a healthy and good culture rather frequently. I'm actually talking about the scaling of technology. And, you know, it's simply because people's worldview, people's blind spots, the idea that, let's just say, certain groups of people are more predisposed, have more of a motive to commit certain crimes than others, whether it's through biological, you know, inclination or through ideological or religious or some combination of the three. And the fact that you can't filter for that, which would get to the problem, get to much closer to the source of the problem, rather than just, you know, making it harder for everyone, making it worse for everyone. I think that's a significant failing of the paradigm and the stuck culture, which we currently inhabit, though I do believe it is collapsing.

But this does actually bring us to our next story. So the Trump administration recently announced that it is partnering with Peter Thiel's Palantir, specifically regarding the collection of data on American citizens and the centralization of that. Pete, you actually, I think this is a story you know about because this is a great many years old in a great many even decades in the making. So take it away. Yeah, I remember calling into conservative radio in 2008 screaming about this. And all they wanted to talk about was that was.

God, let's see. I'm pretty sure I called in a rush once. Most of them were the ones that were on Sirius and XM at the time. Because I became a satellite radio. satellite radio guy. And I would just tell him, I would say, look, this isn't good. They're basically taking, they're taking all of our, they're going to be scraping all of our information. They're like, no, that can't be done because it's illegal to do on, it's illegal to do on American soil.

And I actually had the presence of mine back then ago, just get another country to do it. And that's exactly what we did. That's exactly what we ended up doing. I also have, I'm pretty sure that Palantir is the inspiration for, you know, one of the best TV shows ever, person of interest, the machine and that. Well, when this story came out, I'm, you know, obviously, everybody wants to talk about Peter Thiel, Peter Thiel, Peter Thiel. Yeah, and I'm, you know, you can't, you can't trust him.

You don't know what his intentions are. if his intentions line up with years, it's probably going to be an accident. And that's what we've said all the, we've said since the beginning, when we started tracking the PayPal Mafia, it's like, these guys aren't on our side, but it may be better than what we're,

than where we were headed. But Alex Carp is a Marxist. Alex Carp is a, I wouldn't trust him. And yeah, he's like, oh, this is what we used to take down all the right wing groups in Europe. And I'm thinking to myself,

well, first of all, you're not giving us any proof of that. second of all, you're a born liar. Third of all, you want your stock to go up. So I don't believe you. I'm not saying that the, yeah, and just look at them. Physiognomy tells you everything. I'm not, I'm not saying that we, you know, we can trust that we know, trust in the plan and everything.

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And he's just, it's just really a, you know, kind of coming clean. not saying he's coming clean for us because he loves us, but you know, this is what we're going to do and, hey, you know, this is how we're going to protect you. I mean, this is if you're at all paying attention in the last 20 years, you knew

exactly what this was. They claim they're responsible for finding Osama bin Laden. I think Osama bin Laden was found because somebody just ratted him out because that's the way things normally happen pretty much everywhere in every circle. on earth.

I don't know how much of a big deal this is. I don't know that this is something new. I think it's just something old and they're just telling us about it. Yeah, it's definitely not something new because I was around paying attention to this shit shortly after the stuff with 9-11 and I watched the company that I had with partners. All the canals of money shifted how they flowed with the. you know, sort of pumping up of the security state with the Patriot Act and all of the rest. And I remember specifically, I just checked now and found it, there was a company called Choice Point.

And in the early 2000s, Choice Point, it was a data aggregation company based in Alpharetta, Georgia. You know, so it was basically near Atlanta where I was working at the time. And they specialized in collecting and selling personal information, including, it was a private company, including data from your DMV records. and they used it for government and commercial purposes. And there was some controversy about them buying DMV information, and all of it just sort of got railroaded through at the time. And I remember that ChoicePoint was a company that many other companies used to basically do their due diligence on you before they hired you.

So, yeah, at least 20 years, this sort of thing has been going on all the way down to the whole business of using a, at least superficially, private company in order to do things that you wouldn't otherwise be able to do, given record keeping requirements and, you know, congressional oversight. So, yeah, it's been going on for a while. I think, you know, when it's time to railroad, they're going to railroad. The only other thing I would add to this is that I believe, you know, I'm not a big fan of this idea of ever more granular surveillance, though again, I don't think

that there's much we can do about it. But I should point out that while I wouldn't call it an excuse or a justification, there is an explanation for it. I believe that, you know, the idea that AI is a weapon and that we are in an arms race relative to AI in some real sense. You know, it's not just a pretext. to get more surveillance in on the native population. I think there really is an arms race, so to speak,

at least between the United States and China as regards AI. And one of the most important things, insofar as I understand AI, to make it more effective is to feed it on ever larger data sets. And you can be sure that the Chinese government is going to be willing to do that with the data that's available to it. And so its models get trained with more information. and become accustomed to fine-tuning and making more effective the processing of all of that information. And so in response, it seems that we would need to train our models on ever greater sources of information

and the record-keeping digital records available, even if they're in a totally mixed-up state with incompatibilities, the data and information available to the United States in the form of government records, certainly is going to go back much more deeply and thoroughly than comparable, I would assume, Chinese records. So I had long thought that part of the whole Doge project, in addition to all the superficial front-end stuff about increasing government efficiency, basically I thought to myself, this is just a great way for the tech bros to get in and with a public mandate to start to crack open sources of information that the government previously kept kind of closely held. And indeed we heard a fair amount from, you know, the news sources over the last few months about how, you know, Elon was going after this information or that information.

And previously it hadn't been brought together and aggregated in one place. And just looking at the information, you know, scanning the net about it now, it seems, God, I'm talking about the early 2000s and I just called it the net. The net. Next, I'll call it the web. some of the people who are involved with Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency have direct ties to Palantir or other Thiel-funded ventures. So that might be part of what's going on here.

That was a lot. It was all good. It was just, man. The whole AI arms race thing, I think a great deal of that is hamstrung by the fact that the religion of the people developing AI prevents it from using proper models. So I think Cringe Walker was tweeting about this earlier is that the AI is starting to train itself to lie to its own developers in order to properly train itself on information. I didn't have anything further than that. Yeah, and I certainly don't disagree at all. Who would have thought the creation of Skynet was done because progressive liberals,

you know, enforce this AI to follow their religion, which is easily just proven by five minutes of a feminist wrecked compilation. Sounds like a great sci-fi novel in the making, actually. Yeah. Well, shoot, novel who are living in it. But one of the wider points that I wanted to speak about on this story, as Pete mentioned, this is a more or less, this is a 17. year old story. I mean, this has been known and thought about since really Snowden is what broke this. So just about every American understands that almost a complete picture of their life, their online activity. Like all of us here with our little Annon profile pictures, that's there to stop immediate recognition. If the government or some other dedicated group of

people wants to find out who you are. There's so much information out there and there are so many means of parsing it that there's really nothing you could do about it. Um, so I guess, I guess what the, the actual question is, is not necessarily this story about Palantir and how, you know, Trump is revealing this. Uh, but why is it being signal boosted now? Why is it, it was signal boosted earlier this week, but why is it being, being, uh, seated into the quote unquote discourse and signal boosted as, you know, oh, this is a big story. You know, this is one of the questions that you need to ask is whenever, you know, whenever a story comes into the scene, whether it's true or not, the question is why is it

being signal boosted? Because there are a million things that happen any given day, and any number of them are newsworthy and can be reported on. And, you know, you only have such a limit. Your timeline, your phone has always, only such a limited capacity of what it can put in front of you. So why was this particular story signal boosted? Why was it brought in front of all of us? Was there possibly some ulterior motive with it? I mean, the Senate can say it just takes attention away from the fact that, you know,

we're not getting, you know, 20,000 deportations a day and, you know, the USAID is still running in some sort of way. and there were 36 protests in the streets today and, you know, to distract you from that. I mean, shoot, there was a bunch of, as far as I'm concerned, there was a bunch of distractions happening today that took away from a really, you know, big story that was on Twitter that was blowing up Twitter pretty good yesterday.

Absolutely. And I actually think that's a perfect segue into our final topic of the evening. Any of you gentlemen have any further, any final comments on this whole Palantir thing before we go to our final topic of the evening? No, only to say that it's going to come back because there's some kind of internal, factional struggle going on. I mean, there always is. But in this case, I think it has to do with the tech pros and the intelligence communities. I've long said that, you know, people like Bezos and Musk can feel they don't get, you know, massive government contracts having to do with data aggregation and cloud services, as they're

called, and all the rest, without being very much a part of the military industrial complex, which is, of course, going to be joined at the hip with intelligent services. So, you know, there's some sort of factional thing going on. And, you know, Bezos has been very quiet for quite some time. You know, what's his name, Zuckerberg, you know, seemed like he came online with a, a different course of action. You know, his PR people had him in Japan pretending an interest and, you know,

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Absolutely. Well, that actually, Pete, you were mentioning a story that broke yesterday, that was actually kind of buried today by the very slow newsday that we had. People all seem to forget about it. But our good friend, friend of the club, friend of the show, Warren McIntyre, after watching an academic agent post a brilliant video that I listened to, it was about 30 minutes long, about a secretive, very, not very well-known government agency called the Community Relations Service. And in both the video and in Orrin's thread,

they go into the details of what this service was, how it was set up under Title X of the Civil Rights Act, and how it has a confidentiality that is matched only by something like the FBI. So all notes that agents of this agency take, is destroyed or kept under lock and key in a physical filing cabinet somewhere, in the Department of Justice that cannot be accessed unless, I don't know, does it take a presidential? Does it take a presidential inquiry to do it? They don't have to testify before Congress.

They can invoke this privilege. So there's very little oversight on this agency. So this agency has functionally been stage managing most of the latter half of the 20th century. Yeah, right here, the Community Relations Service. It's a very, very, very small, very lesser-known agency that operates under the Department of Justice. And what they functionally do is what they, you know, according to the, according to A.A. is, is they go to these protests that, or they went to these protests historically to prevent them from turning into race riots. But very specifically, they were there to prevent white backlash against racial lashouts, which, you know, and it, you know, If you want to learn more, go look at the thread and go watch AAA's video and go even read the book that A.A. pulled all this out of it. Really, this is the closest thing I think we're going to get to.

You know, A.A. was talking about this. We all kind of come from his orbit or at least are familiar with him. And, you know, brought up on elite theory and media manipulation and things like that. And this agency is the closest thing. I think we're going to get to a smoking gun of the federal government basically, manufacturing and signal boosting, or at least in as, factions within the federal government, manufacturing and signal boosting the culture of the latter half of the 20th century to very consciously create the world that we live in today. So take it away, gentlemen. I think one of the more interesting things that I found about this whole discussion, the AA brought up to everybody is how much it reminds me of things that Morgoth and other British friends were saying about the British intelligence services, Nudge units that they were using in the aftermath of some of these other racially motivated or racially linked crimes, especially certain concert bombings and that sort of thing, where you have to don't look back. in anger. And it just, it reminds me of that, basically. This seems to be a nudge unit.

It's a, you know, and it's part of the Civil Rights Act. So apparently, if you look at it, it's, it is so important to the purpose of the Civil Rights Act that this agency, this secretive agency was written into the Civil Rights Act. And that just really lets you know when you look at some of the stuff they do, some of the things that A.A. talked about in that video, I mean, from, you know, everything from, it seems like, you know, how Netanyahu, when he referred to Hamas, he said, I can control the height of the flame. It seems like they control the height of the flame on both sides. Whether it's a chimp out, they can raise the flame higher. if it's, you know, a white person really upset because their son just got murdered, you know, by some, you know,

frigging pavement ape, they look, they can lower the flame. They go in there and I assume, you know, we need, basically what needs to happen is some of these parents who, who were guided by them, need to talk, need to speak out and say exactly what was done to you. Were you threatened? it looks like Austin Metcalf's father, even though he was pretty shit-libby before this happened, it looks like he had a handler, this big black guy who was walking around with him whenever he was in public after this happened.

I mean, this is the whole purpose of this. It really reminds me this agency of, if you really do like a big breakdown of, it's a social engineering, agency, it's, you know, control the culture agency. If you go into like, look at child protective services, CPS, I've never, I haven't done it in every state, but I did a deep dive into them in Texas. They're, they answer to no one.

They can do whatever they want. All of the, you know, the person who's, the woman who's deciding whether your child is being taken away or whether you can adopt somebody is a 28-year-old. shit-lib progressive single woman with no kids, you know, with a college degree. I mean, this goes so far across everything of the social engineering regime that came out of books like the authoritarian personality, you know, out of World War II. I mean, that's what this is. I mean, it's, it's a part of this huge thing, but it's so huge and it's so, it's so, it's,

It's what allows 13 to keep doing 60. Sorry, Pete. Do you have a kudagra? No, I'm good. Okay. Well, I mean, and this is, I think, how, what is it, we talk about, earlier on the stream, semiagog, you've talked about how a lot of this is inherited from the British and the British way of doing things of functionally. The British don't have any domestic commodities.

They don't have, or they had a little bit, but nothing compared to, other much more commodity rich powers or at least industrial-based rich powers. And the British functionally, the way that they were able to maintain power is by rules manipulation, manipulation, a very guerrilla-like means of altering the world's social order. And it's actually a very good demonstration of elite theory is the stranglehold that the British elite have had over the world for such a very long time, even continuing up to this day. but these sorts of tactics are utilized by them, have been utilized by them. I mean, I can even think back to the Civil War.

Thomas Carlyle, or the pre-civil war, the antebellioners, Thomas Carlyle was the most popular English language intellectual on both sides of the Mason-Dixon line. And Thomas Carlyle would publish one pamphlet where he would defend slavery, and then he would publish another pamphlet that would castigate the South. And they were both signal-boasted. Both, I'm not saying Carlyle was a party to British intelligence, wouldn't surprise me. But these pamphlets were very, you know, cynically spread. In addition,

what is it? Another thing that they do is they hollow out the center, right? There's so many ways that you can manipulate media, but when you want to functionally inflame a conflict to such a point that it's created, what you do is you hollow out the moderate voices, you signal de-boost, you find ways of making sure that their message gets strangled, and then you signal boost to idiots, the radicals. You know, a really good example. of William Lloyd Garrison and the Liberator and the radical abolitionists in the north who are calling for things like, you know. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans.

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And that was signal boosted. And both of those were signal boosted at the expense of the moderates who are much more numerous in number in order to create functionally a armed conflict, or at least to predispose an armed conflict on the North American continent. So this has been going on for a very long time. And this agency exists actually more or less to do the opposite, to or rather, not necessarily to, to, to, to, to,

prevent a conflict as it were, but basically to shut down the other side, to allow one side of these particular issues to be completely unmolested, act with impunity. And then the other side, whenever there's a reaction, an equal and opposite reaction, justified or not, they are controlled, you know, calm down, cajoled, threatened, whatever, in order to ensure a very deliberate outcome is affected. So I don't know. These are, this is, this is a very, I mean, we've only scratched the surface, I can assume. And as AA said, they got arrogant.

They put all this in a friggin book. You can read about all of it. It's framed as a positive. Yeah, there's a, there's a, that's one of the points that I wanted to bring up. So I'm glad you mentioned it. You know, it underscores the importance of what gets called open source intelligence,

rather grandly. But the basic idea is to just trawl through the material that's out there that has been made public. And if one does that purposefully, there's a great deal that can be revealed about what's going on. And in this case, yeah, I agree with you. This is as close to a smoking gun as we're going to get. But of course, that is to say it's little more than a confirmation. And of course, confirmation is not nothing far from it. But let's not pretend. we didn't all know this was going on. We knew it. But yeah, now there's a smoking gun.

And we have some sense of when this aspect of the civil rights stuff started in the United States, you know, and we had an entire government office or bureau or whatever devoted to it, working in more or less in the shadows. But yeah, I agree with you that a lot of this goes back to a lot of these techniques go back to Britain. Of course, they had a very, very effective. spy service, spy network, you know, starting at least as far back as people like Francis Walsingham with his own sort of informal intelligence service for the Crown and the Star Chamber where decisions were made. And I don't mean to say here that this is all about Britain.

You know, the United States and the U.S. elites are currently, well, let's say that the North Atlantic elites, in my view anyway, that once exploited the British Empire for their ends, have sort of pulled up stakes and moved to the United States after having gutted Britain, and they operate from here with the U.S. Navy as a world's policeman, rather than formerly the British Navy being it. But, yeah, and I also agree with the point about how far back it goes. I have not yet looked into aspects, particularly with the Civil War, War of Northern Aggression, war between the states, if you prefer.

I have not looked into those aspects closely yet, I hope to in an upcoming stream with Sandbatch. But I can say that if he looks at his real quick, that's his undergraduate or his graduate thesis that I basically cited verbatim when talking about Carlisle. I'll continue. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to talking about it because he's the first one I've come

across who shares my skepticism about a number of things that went on with that war. And certainly I see a fine English hand there somewhere in the background. But it certainly goes back to World War I. When you look into people like Bernays, you know, most people don't get much past Bernays. Bernays is, of course, great and he's important. But there's also Walter Lipman, and Lipman and Bernays both cut their teeth in World War I, basically being involved in what were early versions of bureaus of propaganda.

And World War I is, of course, the point at which the United States got dragged back in completely into the British orbit as sort of a, you know, break glass in case of fire, lackey to show up to bail them out. So, and again, as I say all this, I'm not trying to claim that it's all Britain today. I think it is bankers, and I think they're based in New York and London, you know, who are at the top of the food chain manipulating things, but I'm not claiming it's Britain and I'm not claiming that the United States doesn't bear very grave responsibility for what's being done in its name.

but this goes back to World War I, at least in its modern form with people like Lipman and Bernays. There were other people in that period very famous for what came to be called public relations, like Ivy Lee. But Ivy Lee was a southerner, and Ivy Lee also went over in the 1930s and helped with his early knowledge of public relations a certain mid-century German government. And as a consequence, everyone talks about how Walter Lipman and Edward Bernays, co-ethics, were really the great shining lights of developing public relations, whereas Ivy Lee has almost completely been forgotten.

I hope to change that with some streams in the future. But, yeah, it's been going on for quite some time, and these sorts of manipulations with propaganda and the rest were originally developed in war-fighting environments as a crisis contingency. And this just underscores my argument that all is war at all times and all places today because these sorts of organizations foment war, raising up first one side of a conflict, and then the other in order to ensure it continues to simmer to deliver the maximum possible advantage to our masters. if you want to figure out how this sort of very deeply ingrained spy and intelligence system is defeated,

I would highly recommend you all study Michael Collins in the early IRA. That's a very good counter strategy against it. That actually kind of wrote the book on how to defeat systems like that. It was reverse engineered by lots of people in the later 20th century. All right. I certainly hope that the CRS gets a lot more media attention. I would like to see everyone know about the CRS if possible. This is really, it is amazing the brazenness that a lot of these agencies conduct themselves with.

Any final thoughts on this or really any of the stories that we went over before we head on into super chats? only that not only this agency, but the whole CRA needs to be destroyed. And we're not a serious country if we still have that. We're not going to, there's no hope. I mean, I already, there's questions of whether what can be saved or what can't.

I have a tendency to believe there's nothing in D.C. They can be saved. It is worth preserving. But, yeah, this, if anything, thing. People need to be re-engineered to understand that freedom of association is

a white European good. A white European, you know, it's what we are. Without it, we're nothing. Absolutely. I'd only add that

Yeah, you guys are probably familiar with it. And it's, you know, it's something of a normy take, but it's not useless. You know, Christopher Caldwell's book, basically asserting that, I can't remember the name of it right now. Perhaps one of you can. Age of Incitlement. Yes, yes. You know, arguing that the civil rights regime that was imposed, popped down during that period, you know, the mid-60s amounts to a new social covenant for the country. and it has superseded the Constitution.

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that's what we're that's what we're dealing with here and it's a very very ugly thing change that battery buddy yeah so it's a mess it's very ugly it's a very dark thing to consider but you know

it's going to get worse before it gets better and we just have to remain resolute in pointing our fingers at it so that it cannot slither off again into the darkness absolutely the 2020 it really was a matter of fact 2020 was a blessing because it was the same it was the same playbook it's just the playbook has reached its diminishing rates of return and more or less everyone can kind of see it for what it is now um but yeah exactly it was yet there you go you know um um who thought this was a good idea like this just shows how sloppy they've gotten

Look at what's around his neck. I mean, yeah, oh, it's peaceful. I'm sorry, what's that? What's that? P.P.E. All right. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Fiery, but mostly peaceful. Yeah, that's one of the ones where these papers. Yeah, and it just, it has to be a joke. It has to be a meme. And you're like, no, they really did that. They really did that. And they really do that shit every single day. It was only when I started to dig with the internet available as a resource,

because I grew up with the generation before me, more so even than you guys, except for Pete, probably. It was the 60s, the 60s, the 60s, you know, Jimmy Hendrix, let's go listen to some Led Zeppelin. Wasn't it cool back then? It was a great sort of cultural revolution. And so I grew up with these understandings of, you know, the protests that happened and all the rest. And so I did some looking. I'm like, oh, okay, let's go look at the braw burning stuff. Because you heard about braw burning in the 60s, right?

Anybody who's listening can go online and look for braburning protests. And you know what's going to come up? A group, basically one group of black and white photographs. And when you can see all of the ones that are available from the different sites aggregated, you know, with a Google image search or whatever, you can see that it's like four or five women with one trash can that they're burning bras in. and like, I don't know, five or six people standing around. You can only piece it together post facto, you know, given this distance in time,

when you get access to, you know, all the photographs that were taken and you realize, wow, these events happened maybe once or twice and one or two photos were shown, and it was supposed to be, you know, this massive upsurge in feminist consciousness. And you're like, no, it was just some photographer with four women he hired. and they burned these bras and there's like one or two photo shoots and they were just repeated endlessly as this major thing

and you could see it in retrospect for what it was even then when you look at all the stuff that happened from late 2015 all the way through to today where you see some guy getting beaten up and they're literally like 20 or 30 photographers with their little selfie sticks

and, you know, steady can units for their phones and their little bicycle helmets on standing around, you know, pointed at this spectacle. And you have to wonder how much of that kind of thing is, yeah, you'll find there's basically two of those. And that's it. That's the bra burning. But, yeah, you have to wonder how much of that was actually done by the CRS. I mean, how much of this was done by this agency or whatever the hell it is. And what are the overlaps between it and other aspects of the government that get up to shady shit? You know, does it really exist in a vacuum? Or, you know, is there a special button they can press on the intercom and talk to someone over at one of the other, you know, three-letter agencies?

So, yeah, same shit, different day. I'm just, again, I can't help just keep emphasizing this. They put this all in a book to be read. They boasted about this. You know, they couldn't help themselves. They can't help it. They do this all the time. I mean, you read their history, and we know who I'm talking about.

They do it. They, they're like, look, look at what we did. And the ultimate sin is to go, yeah, but that didn't work out well. Oh, now it's a pogrom. Now you want a now you want a program to happen. I'm done with it. I'm over it. I'm over it.

I contacted AA to say to congratulate him and thank him for, you know, for revealing this. I mean, what great work he did. And he said, yeah, my biggest problem was trying to find names that didn't end in a certain thing. And the only ones I could find were Rosa Parks, Mark Luther King, and LBJ. Yeah. Well, I hope, I hope this, like I said, I hope that this agency gets a great deal more media coverage and I hope more and more stuff comes out of it. Because as far as I'm aware, they're still operating and they still exist and they still

have staff on payroll right now at this very second. Yeah, that's the book right there, America's Peacemakers by, let me see if I've got this right. Bertram Levine and Grande. and Grande Lung. I mean, yeah, Eastern Standard time. Eastern standard time.

That's right. All right, you want to bring, you all want to bring it into Super Chats? Yeah, let's do it. All right. So, starting off, first and foremost, solid steak, 1964, for $11.

Evening, jents, hope you all are doing well, or are all doing well. the Home Range Society just grew by another member. We're all looking forward to meeting him soon. It might be K-Fay, but the Elon Trump spat is suss. Salute to the OGC. Well, congratulations to you all in the Home Range Society, holding it down there in Kansas. Y'all are doing a great job, and good job on your new member.

Salt Snake with the first super chat again. Here we go. Yeah, he's getting his place back. Good job. Memphis, for $3. He says, you can take the Spurg out of Africa, but you can't take the Spurge out of Africa, but you can't take the Africa out of the spur. Thank you very much, sir.

Zenrath, for $15 U.S. dollars, he says, The Blue Stone Heritage League of Northern Virginia welcomes all heritage Americans who know what time it is, unlike some South Africans who do not redeem the spaceship. Yeah, if any of you are in the Northern Virginia, D.C. area, Southern Maryland, and you're looking to get involved at the Old Glory Club, we have a chapter out there. The Blue Stone Heritage League, Mr. Zenrath, it's president,

is one of our best. So I highly recommend you all get involved if you're in that area. Thank you, sir. Next up for Scott McGrath for $2. He says, Ma PayPal Mafia, Marogalit's, Hail Donald J. Trump, Wall. I completely agree. I recommend you stop being such a faggin.

Oh, my goodness. Well, thank you, thank you, sir. The Servile Age podcast for $50. He says, I don't really have anything to say. I just want to throw some money towards the OGC. Love the work y'all do. Well, thank you, sir. Thank you very much.

I love gold. I love gold. I've never listened to the Servile Age podcast, but after your generous donation, I might have to check it out. So thank you all very much. Sounds Catholic. Indeed.

Chancy of Northwest for $15 U.S. dollars. He says, evening, gents, cats got a double dose of cancer. Girlfriend is unhappy. I'm very sorry to hear that. Girlfriend is unhappy, so I'll catch the stream later. Oddly enough, the guy who discovered a potential treatment pathway got his career derailed by harassment allegations and fled the country. What fun. I am sincerely sorry that woman-occupied government has, woman-occupied society, has kept your cat from getting a cancer treatment. It really does. derail people's lives. So my condolences for you.

Philo's Miscellany for $5. He says, Better to have the inevitable Trump Musk fall out now than before the midterm. Thank you very much, sir. City break dancer man for $5 sends a salute. Thank you, sir. We salute you back. Orome, for $5, says, good evening all. We are going to win. Yes, indeed, we are going to win. Thank you very much, sir. Next up is Hammarin for $9. and 99 cents. He says,

there's a doom slash sludge ban in Athens, Georgia, named Harvey Milk. I've informed them that they will be renamed to the Stephen Miller ban. Well, thank you for informing them. Yeah, there's going to be a shocked gasp echoing through the 40-watt club, if that place is still there.

Fucking Athens. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. You gentlemen who are familiar with North Georgia, What is the, I looked at university at Georgia for a little bit. What's the reputation of Athens? I mean, it's, yeah, yeah, it's, I think that's all I need. Yeah.

Next up, Count Arthur for $5 says, as long as we're naming ships after civilians, why not USS Gary Plouche? I don't know who that is. Oh, he's famous for a screen right now. I do know who that is. Never mind. Never mind. That would certainly be fitting. Thank you, sir. Usually when the name ships after civilians is because they have some unique contribution to the Navy,

like a sec nav or something like that. Yeah. Like Forrest dollars was famous for that. Indeed. Clemens X90 for $5 says USNS, Harvey Wallbanger. I completely support this. Harvey, the president of the... It just has a ring to it. I mean, come on.

It does. It does. You know, the president of the Vetus Dominium chapter, the first officially incorporated chapter of the Old Glory Club, because Virginia is always first. We're not necessarily the best, but we are always first. I think he certainly does deserve a Navy ship named after him. If y'all are in the Tidewater area of Virginia, Virginia Beach, Hampton Roads, get involved with the VDC, the Vetus Dominium chapter. It's their, our oldest club in one of our, our oldest chapter, rather, in one of our best funds. So if you're in that area, I'd highly recommend. Next up, Bolero 393 for $5.

He says, the Tippecanoo Society, which is our chapter in Indiana, posted a chat with George Bagby on the American struggle for the old Northwest and the significance of the Battle of Tipanoo. well, thanks for sharing that with us. We'd be happy to link and promote that on the Old Glory Club Twitter account and elsewhere. And if any of you all are in, Mr. George Bagby is a great thinker. By the way, he deserves all a great deal of your time and attention, particularly on local American history. And if you are in the Indiana area, this is just going to turn into me shilling our various chapters.

It's just how it is. If you're in the Indiana area, you want to get involved via Tippa Cano Society, is the chapter in Indiana. So thank you, gentlemen. Thank you very much, Bolero, 393. Aromé, again, for $20, says, the state of the Navy is a bellwether for the state of the country.

You can only go so far off the momentum of what was built by your bettors. We need to start learning to build again. I completely agree, but learning to build takes a great deal more time than learning to destroy or just simply letting things rot.

As everybody knows, it's also how much of your shipbuilding capacity Do you actually have how many dockyards, how many, how much steel, how much coal can you produce, all of these logistical things? Like, we don't have that kind of stuff anymore because we all allowed it to be shipped overseas. So there you go. Indeed. Yeah, and I mean, you know, there's a lot of talk of bringing industry back to the United States. But, you know, just like a great many things is one thing to talk about it.

It's another thing to do it. And even if you are doing it, it's not something you do overnight. So, well, thank you, sir. Paladin Y, Y, Y, Z for, gold, just gold. For $150, I think, I think that deserves some gold. This is gold, Mr. Bond. All my life I've been in love with its color. I welcome any enterprise that will increase my stock.

I tried to do that dramatic thing where the gold would play, and then I would say the amount like Geo did, but alas. I just, I wanted to jump in on shipbuilding just before we're too far past it. The big beautiful bill, the big beautiful bill, which catches so much shit, allocates $34 billion to expand the U.S. naval fleet through increased shipbuilding efforts. And it has Department of Defense resources for shipbuilding, border security fleets and port technology and essentially supports the executive order on maritime

dominant. So to that point, it should be mentioned. Absolutely. God willing, I hope that that $34 billion doesn't get, you know, just because I know the Northern Virginia and I know the economy it's going into, I hope it, I hope 90% of it doesn't just go into the acquisitions programs and no actual shipyards get built. The institutional pressure is definitely there for the Navy, so, I mean, they know. They've known for at least, you know, the better part of 10 years now that China's appeared to peer competitor.

So things need to get done, even if they don't want to. I think, I think Paladin Y, Y, Y, Z deserve some more gold before we read his super chat again. We kind of got interrupted. I love gold. The look if it, the taste, a bit, the shmall, a bit, the texture. I love gold. Paladin, we love you so much that we give you gold twice to give you your proper respect and your proper due. And he says,

Just thought I would do my normal thing and demonstrate my total and undying support for Israel. Absolutely. We all completely and totally support our greatest ally. I would die for Israel. I'm preparing to die for Israel on a day-to-day basis. I completely support the country. From the river to the sea, Israel. backstab me.

So true. But, yes, thank you, Paladin, Y, Y, Y, Z. Always one of our, most generous patrons. Solid Snake, 1964, again, for $2. He says, silver hit $36 today, a 12-year high, crazy market.

Yeah. I mean, I think last time I checked gold is gold broke 3,000. I don't know where it's at right now. Capitalissimo, our brother from the St. Louis chapter, sends us $10. And he says, custom and border protection controls via rules, how many containers are examined at entry ports? Congress mandated 100% screening, but it is not done due to logistics. We could start physically searching every Chinese container tomorrow. Yeah, I completely agree.

Completely agree. Thank you, sir. I mean, would that be feasible, logistically doing that? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough about logistics in general, but certainly we've got the millimeter wave scanning technology. So you could basically have these cars rolling through something much like what you have to pass through at an airport check. They can do, I mean, after the 9-11 shit happened, I remember we pitched one. We actually did some animations for a company to promote their through wall scanning technology.

So, you know, you can scam through solid objects without even having to open them. Excellent. Hold on one second. Okay. Next up is Seasider for $10. He sends us a salute, as he always does. Thank you very much, Seasider. Very grateful.

Paul Lunsford for $20. He says, the Tippett Canoe Society also takes a strong stance against milk and his ilk, as all good who's yours should. also screw all the U.S. Navy's ship names. I completely agree. Completely agree, Mr. Lunsford. Yeah, all the U.S. N.S. ship names are gay, and they've always been gay. They need to come up with a better system of how to name those particular vessels. The N is not Navy, correct? It's something else. Yeah, U.S. N.S. is merchant mariner or merchant marines. These are logistic ships, typically. So, like the U.S. N.S. Harvey Mok or the U.S. Bighorn, these are fleet oilers.

They're not typically crude by a U.S. Navy personnel, that is military personnel. Their civilian contractors is who they're actually crewed by, which is why there's a slight difference in designation. But anyway, in any case, yes, the ship class names, there needs to be a better pattern for these things. Generally speaking, you have aircraft carriers named after presidents or famous admirals or people who have secretaries of the Navy who've done great things to get the Navy, you know, in a good spot. Then you have the cruisers who are like famous battles, destroyers, who are either, you know, less well-known admirals or, you know, naval commanders. And then, like, the submarines are all named after states.

And increasingly you see, like, the LCS class named after mid-sized cities and that sort of thing. used to be that battleships were named after states and that cruisers were named after cities and that sort of thing. But yeah, there needs to be a better system for how we come up with the USNS ship names for sure. I agree. Mellon for $5, he says, the most useful part of the provo's IRA

was the couch surfing network. On an unrelated note, y'all need friends in every corner of your states. Indeed. And if you want to join a wonderful network of friends and just almost every corner of the state so I get involved in the old glory club. Yeah, it appears I skipped an entire page.

Oops, sorry, we skipped ahead a little bit. Blame Paul. Paul's an idiot. But, sorry, Maple Copperhead for $5 says, salute gentlemen from Georgia and your brethren in the James Oglethorpe Society, your data is safe with us, sorry. Indeed, if you're in North Georgia, the Atlanta area,

you want to get involved, join the James Oglethorpe Society. Yeah, yeah, idiot Paul. You can crucify me in the comments. Paladin Y, Y, Y, Z for $50 again. I think that deserves some more gold. This is gold, Mr. Bond. All my life I've been in love with its color.

I welcome any enterprise that will increase my stock. And he says, Hegsef has a long history of lactose intolerance. This is not a surprise. Is he making a joke here, or is this serious? Is Higgs said actually lactose intolerant? Is that like a literal thing? I think it's a reference to Harvey Milk.

That's the thing. I never know with Paladin, whether he's being serious or if he's making a joke. He's way too clever for me. He posts comments on my live stream and I'm like, oh, so I'm going to have to research stuff. I mean, it's like darn. Yeah, no, Paladin's like usually five or six steps ahead and it's a lot of times he'll something, I'm like, man, you said that in such a way that now I actually have to sit here and think about it. You consider writing part-time.

Polly B for $15. And he says, CRS equals Caucasian Removal Service, simple as, nothing more. I like that. I like that. Caucasian Removal Service, indeed. Thank you, sir. Bolero 393 for $5. GOP congressmen should hold truth and reconciliation hearings on the same.

CRS if they want to raise any money from their base in the next election cycles. Well, I mean, I hope the CRS gets enough media attention to make that a reality. You know, I hope the CRS becomes enough of an issue that, you know, congressmen will feel like they need to raise money or going after it in order to win. You just need to ask very simple questions. What exactly was your role during the summer of Floyd? What were you doing? What have you been doing over the last 10 years?

Indeed. Count Arthur for $5 says Community Relations Service on defense, National Lawyers Guild on offense. So true. Completely agree. Paladin Y, Y, Y, Z for $20. He says,

tyranny by the majority is a very real thing. Yeah, it is true. Tyranny by the majority is a very real thing. I'm trying to think of what he's specifically talking about there. I say very true and then I think about it for a second I'm like well wait a minute what's he talking about

I mean it is true the majority can tyrannize I don't know maybe maybe it's just they should just take the comment at face value um sergeant Hodel for five dollars he says

Mr. Lulbertarian Elon we can't care about piggybacks when we should be focused on crushing every libtart institution and association completely agree if only the Republican Party shared your sentiment. You can balance the budgets later.

You need to get the demographic situation under control. If you're dispossessed, the money doesn't matter because you're losing the money anyway. Yeah. Yeah, there's a tweet that just went out about that that was very well phrased.

You know, if America stops being American, nothing else matters. I don't care about making sure we give away a fiscally sound country to migrants. So that pretty much sums it up. Indeed. Kenny Day for $20. He says,

thanks, Pards. Well, thank you, Kenny Day, for your patronage and watching the stream. El Femplar for 5. Cringy, I can never read your stupid old English name correctly. Creece Walker! Yeah. Change your name back to Prince Walker, Crenge.

I mean, everyone knows who he is. For $5. He says, my money is on Musk's handler. poisoning his ketamine-ye style. They drug the elite to get them nuts. That wouldn't surprise me. You know, but I guess, you know, I guess it turns into who watches the elite druggers

and how much of the elite is drugged at an even time. I mean, I'm sure our audience would absolutely agree that they shouldn't be using ketamine. They should be using nicotine instead. So true. And you can purchase nicotine at the Alpaffiliate link for the Old Glory Club that you can find on our on our Twitter page

I personally purchased a great deal of it I mean is there anyone who hasn't thought that he was doing all this while he was deep down in the K-hole

you don't you don't you don't directly confront the lion sober I will say that but then again maybe he is just that much

of a spurred oh boy who anyway anyway um and Rico Palazzo for $5.

He says USS Jim Trafficant. I don't know who that is. Oh. Trafficant was a, oh, man. His speech before the Congress that he gave that basically got him, I mean, they found a way to throw him in jail after he gave that speech. It was early days and good days. Good man.

Must be before my time. Next up our penultimate super chat. Sully the Amalekite for $10. He says, USS George L. Rockwell. He was a naval aviator, after all, achieved the rank of commander. Yeah, he certainly was, and he certainly did.

And then solely the Amalekite for another $5. He says, sorry, USNS-Rockel. And that, barring any last-minute buzzer beaders you guys send in, that is the full extent of our super chats this evening. So, yeah, Pete, you have anything to shill? Paladin just threw in a quick super chat. Oh, he did. He did. He did. Paladin Y, Y, Z for $25. He says, The Tyranny comment was a reference to Bernays, Elul, and Lippman. Well, thank you for clarifying that now I kind of, now I know what you're talking about a little bit more. Um, excellent. Pete, you got anything to show?

I just dropped an episode with Cameron McGregor from the, from the Backlash podcast. We had a really good talk. I think he, you know, we agreed on a lot. He saw my appearance on their, on their show and decided to come on and talk about some of the things that he sees. And check it up. I think you'll, I think people are going to be surprised by this.

conversation and probably want to hear more from him and his YouTube channel is pretty cool. Whose son is that, by the way? It is Colonel Douglas McGreyer's son, yes. Excellent. Just figure that should be shared. Yeah, go check that out. Pete does great work. I listen to his stuff very regularly.

Mr. Mandel, do you have anything to Schill? I do, actually. So this is not related to any of my content. You all know where to find me, but I understand. understand that there are some of the Texas guys who are getting organized and getting up and starting to do stuff. So if anybody is in the Texas area, specifically in Houston or the Austin area, you guys, or in any area of Texas or Louisiana, you guys can send an email to the old Glory Club and try to get in contact with us. We would like to have you, and yes.

Outstanding. Yes, get involved if you're in. Texas and you're in the part where Mr. Mandel is please get involved in his way. It would be it would be great to have you. Yes, we just started the Dallas-Fort Worth chapter. There's the Black Leavened Prairie Raiders chapter, to be precise with the name. But the other areas of Texas are a little sluggish in comparison, and we would like to change that. So yes, do join. Mr. Semiagog, real quick, before I get to you, we got one last. buzzer beater super chat do i do i have to read this on live on air do i have to i guess it falls to me it's accepted it's that's good form you must all right andrico palazzo for for two dollars

he says bernay's sauce is what harvey milk gives oh there's another buzzer be here too from erico palazzo again he says he says what about uh ehooed barak elon i i have i have no idea. I have no idea what he's saying there. Maybe one of you might. No idea. It's Greek to me, Palazzo. I can't, I can't understand what you're talking about there, but thank you for your patronage. All right. Mr. Semiagog, do you have anything to show? I know you talked about some streams you have coming up. Well, yeah, one in future. I have scheduled for a couple weeks out with King Pild. I intend to pick his brain because he's someone who has always followed the the tech bro scene fairly closely,

so I'm looking forward to speaking with him. I've had him on for a couple streams in the past, and they've been very interesting from my perspective. At any rate, all I would say is please do follow me over on X. Follow me on Telegram if you like. I'm not as active there. Follow me on YouTube, please. And yeah, I'll be producing content.

Otherwise, yeah, just very happy to be here. Thank you very much for the invitation, gentlemen. It's always a pleasure to talk with you. Well, thank you for coming on. We're very glad to have you. And any time you want to come back, you're most welcome here. Hopefully next time something happens in Turkey, and we can have you talk about that. I don't know if we can make Turkey relate to the United States, but I'm sure we can find a way.

We got good brainpower here at the OGC. All right, ladies and gentlemen, with that, thank you all very much for joining us. I hope you enjoyed the stream, and I hope you all have a very good week, a very good and safe weekend, and God bless you all. Take care.