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of Ireland. Ah, you know what? It feels good to be back. You know, I want to thank Mr. Ferenheit and the rest of the team here at the OGC for filling in for me in my absence as I was off in the deep, dark jungles of the African continent shooting almost every game animal known to man. So thank you very much. But it's good to be back. And what a show. I guess. get to come back to with the news week on this one, but I'm excited to talk about it with our lovely panel tonight. Returning once again, we got Mr. Pete Kinoenas. How are you, Pete?

It wasn't my Starlink, I promise. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We did have to emergency record this, you know, because of commie setting hills on fire and everything. But we got to make do with what we got. So Charlemagne, welcome back, sir. How are you? It was also not because of my star.

link, I promise. Yeah, it wasn't actually a star-linking issue, even though Elon Musk did have a spur out this week. But I don't know, maybe we'll talk about that later. But I got Aaron McIntyre joining us this week, too. How are you, my friend? Doing well, and I have real internet, so I'm here. Yeah.

Yeah, mine's like kind of half-ass too, because I'm still, you know, not going to be back down to my Southern Command for another, like, two and a half weeks. So I'm just on my laptop and not even at my full PCC. set up. Lauren's first whirling it. Yeah, yeah, he is.

The luxury of South Florida. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, before we get started with the actual topics for this evening, I'd like to remind everyone once again to go check out all of our friends who help make this show run.

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shooting game animals, and it was kind of being clocked out of the news for the most part. But then I come back and Los Angeles is literally on fire. So this is a fun one, guys. But why don't we just start with this amazing clip that I saw? You know, we all are reminded of the 2020 saga in the Summer of Love,

you know, the famous clip of the fiery but mostly peaceful protests. When I saw this clip, I was like, holy shit, they're literally just running the same program once again. And they think it's going to work. Let's listen in.

Large group of people. It could turn very volatile if you move law enforcement in there in the wrong way and turn what is just. just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn into a massive confrontation and altercation between officers and demonstrators. Oh, yeah, just a normal thing. People just like walk around and love watching cars burned, you know?

Yeah, this doesn't need any law enforcement whatsoever. Come on, guys. Don't you just do this every day? Incredible third world mentality. Like, just, yeah, of course, burning cars are just part of our street culture. That's just how it works. Think of the selfies. Yeah, just burning streetcars is just as American as mom and apple pie.

Come on, guys. You know, I was just going to say, we just have a montage of all these same photos at the same time. You know, just look at all these guys. I'm really upstanding Americans, you know, every one of them, right? You know, waving their flags, setting things on fire. Well, you can feel the propositional nature of the nation here, really. I mean, look at all the assimilation that's occurring.

Look at all the values that have been adopted. I mean, these are the hardworking families, the Christian, the Catholics that I know are just coming across the border that are ultimately going to save us. You know, this is just the salt of the earth. That's who we're important. Oh, well, all right. Just think about what the food they're going to make with that burning car right behind you there. They're going to start cooking up tacos right there. Some incredible street tacos.

Yeah. Yeah, I love the arguments that people have made to me. It's like, well, you know, you should have no problem with these people coming over. I mean, they are Catholics, right? And everything. I mean, you're, it's like, what? So, yeah, I want Catholics to move into my neighborhood and burn shit. I mean, what are you retarded?

What kind of argument is that? It's like, you know, Protestants being like, oh, yeah, I don't mind, you know, hey, these black people, you know, who are burning cities down in 2020. I mean, they go to a Baptist church and, you know, my neighbors go to a Baptist church. It's the same thing. It's absolutely the same thing. What kind of argument is this is? It's just a retarded one, too, because like, what? The idea is that all the billions of Christians in the entire world now just have, like, a claim to the United States because, like, you yourself are also a Christian. It's like, but I thought we weren't a Christian, but we're not a Christian nation, right? We're a propositional nation. But all of a sudden, they use the argument that, oh, well, they're Christian is just like you. So you should, when that. them to come over. I thought, well, I didn't think we were a Christian nation. Yeah, shut up. Schrodinger's Christian nationalism here, you know.

Yeah, here's another one here. Yeah. So the reason this is so important is obviously we've had plenty of race riots in the United States. Very sadly, as much as we like to pretend that this is a, you know, peaceful democracy and transfer of power and, you know, marketplace. of ideas. There have been a lot of riots in the United States, many of which stand out in the last few years. But they tend to be between the black community and law enforcement, you know, working out the tensions there. It's unfortunate, but at least it's an internal struggle. It's something that is American at some level. What we have here is very clearly a large number

of military-aged men waving a foreign flag while screaming the race in a foreign language La Raza, like, these are people who expect to conquer the land they're on. They're not Americans. They don't pretend to be Americans. They don't pretend like they're going to become Americans. They're Mexican. They literally have the president of Mexico, Ms. Shimbaum, talking about how they're her countrymen and they should be defending the income stream that is the United States ensuring that remittances come back. I mean, this is an invasion at literally every level, from the military age men waving foreign flags to a foreign leader. literally directing them for their financial interest, it could not be clearer. The optics on this

are an absolute disaster for the left. And let's not forget who this president worked side by side with. She's the former mayor of Mexico City. And all of a sudden when she's the mayor of Mexico City, crime just goes down. Yeah, well, it goes down for two reasons. One, they stop reporting on anything the cartels do and two the cartels make their make their competition disappear she's working directly with them so if she's working directly with them if she worked with them when she was mayor why isn't she

working with them now and why isn't this a reconquista why are we why are we pretending these are people who are protesting because they want to stay here and not because they want to take back to 1830 borders Yeah, so one of the Mexican officials, I forget which one it was, actually stated that directly, that they were going to take back those older borders. Yeah, we have that clip. They're their senators.

Yeah, yeah, we got that clip coming up after. He came to, he came, that guy came to the United States last year and campaigned against Trump in Mexican neighborhoods. And of course, we have a senator in our country, Senator Padilla, I think he was named, get arrested today for barging into Christianity. Christenom's press conference, and then, of course, he goes out on the media, and he's just speaking in Spanish. So it's quite clear they have official representation in our government. Their government is treating these people as if they're their own citizens. It's clearly, you know, because it's not a matter of citizenship. This is quite literally a racial conflict being orchestrated by our southern neighbor.

Well, a number of different... In tandem with our own, you know, despicable elites. A number of different conservative commentators, you know, had the line of like, look at these guys, waving the flag of a country that they refused to return to. It's like, yeah, buddy,

because what you don't understand is that they know that the nation is not borders, it's not, you know, propositions. It's people. These people are Mexican. They will always be Mexican. The diaspora is Mexican. into its core. Wherever they go, Mexico goes. So when they arrive on your shores, they're not

there to follow the American dream. No, they're there to make the United States Mexico, to funnel money back to Mexico, to use the influence they have in the United States to create greater Mexico. It's not rocket science. You just have to understand that a nation is not just like strictly its legal borders and its constitution. The people from Mexico know who they are. They know what they want and they know they want what you have. They don't care. They don't care about your ideology.

They don't care about your lofty ideals. They care about your money. They care about looting your country and they care about turning its interest towards their own. That's it. And you can scoff at them. Oh, what a fool. You want to stay in my country.

Yeah, of course they do. Because you're dumb enough to keep paying them money and allowing them to send even more money back home. It's absolutely insane. Well, yeah, to them, it's just their territory. Like, they're already in Mexico because they believe that parts of the United States are rightful Mexican territory. It's their territory. They're not even, they're not even viewing it as being, you know, in the United States so much as the United States is temporarily occupying their land.

And just to put a finer point on how bad this can get, I mean, look at what happened in the Ukraine between the two different racial groups. occupying that country where also on a similar time scale you have different borders that people are arguing over, arguing over, you know, who rightfully controls this territory or not. The same sort of thing is inevitably going to happen here if this isn't controlled right now immediately. Discover five-star luxury at Trump Dunebeg. Unwind in our luxurious spa. Save her sumptuous farm-fresh dining. Relax in our exquisite accommodations. step outside and be captivated by the wild Atlantic surrounds. Your five-star getaway, where every detail is designed with you in mind. Give the gift of a unique experience this Christmas with vouchers from Trump-Dunbeg. Search Trump-Ireland gift vouchers. Trump on Doonbiog, Kush Faragea.

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Well, here we are 17 years later. And, yeah, basically the Mexican government is directing, you know, with the cartels directing. I mean, what can only be, it's so easy to call it riots. It's so easy to, you know, calling it process is this stupid. But it is what it is. It is a reconquest. And to frame it as anything else is really naive at this point. Yeah, it's not like you have to speculate.

I mean, they're literally saying it. That senator literally said it. Yeah, we're going to show that clip in a second here. But first, let's listen into the current Mexican. Mexican president. This is on translation of speech she was giving. And before we even play this, I mean, we were mentioning the cartels earlier. And one of the more exciting things we were talking about that the start of the Trump administration was designating the Mexican cartels as foreign terrorists. And that opens up a lot of possibilities what can be done

with those organizations. But just even acknowledging that the Mexican government itself isn't a cartel-run organization, you know, already. I mean, this isn't like a sovereign country. This is just a country that's run by drug lords at this point and there's no reason to call it anything other than that but let's listen into what she had to say because if necessary we will mobilize because we do not want access on remittances from our compatriots in the united states to mexico shut up silly woman never gets old doesn't it. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up

designating the cartels as terrorist organizations. This is what's happening suggests to me that the administration has well-developed plans for this scenario that extend from before

Trump took the oath of office for the second time. Because I mean, the whole reason, why are these riots even happening? The whole reason they started is because ICE was sent in to enforce immigration law. The leftist protesters started rioting. Well, not even, leftists is the wrong word. Mexican protesters, foreigners started rioting in tandem with our own homegrown leftists. Sorry, I was just turning off my AC. And then the National Guard was sent in to protect ICE from these

rioters and then Marines were sent in as well. And today, actually, we saw, I forget which member of Congress sent this letter, but a letter was basically sent to certain

leftist organizations who are funding these protests, basically telling them to, that they're basically required to disclose all of their, you know, chat groups and information to the Congress for, because they're being basically being investigated

for cooperating with terrorist organizations. So the fact that that is now being operated on suggests to be that this was sort of the plan the whole time. Like the administration knew where things were going to go when they actually attempted to enforce immigration law, and they set all the groundwork months and months in advance right from the very beginning to prepare for this scenario. And the fact that they're not backing down so far, this has been going on for almost a week now. And, you know, this could end just as a sort of media circus operation where, you know, some photos are taken. You get all these photos that we're looking at, and it looks really great, but the administration doesn't do anything. That's what would have happened in the first Trump administration.

But in this administration, it seems like they're not simply, you know, sort of pretending like they're doing something, but not actually doing it. It does seem like this time the intent really is to do the full follow through here. you know, it's been mentioned that this is a 30-day operation, which, you know, suggests they have a very specific timeline of events. You know, I don't think anything that's happening has not been pre-planned. Like the National Guard being sent in, and then Marines as well, all of these forces in being are not being sent so much in response, but in response to things they knew would already happen.

This is all being orchestrated. I'm not saying it's like some sort of, you know, conspiracy or something. It's just the administration absolutely knows all the moves that the enemy is going to try and make here and they have prepared for all of them. And then yeah, here's the, here's the letter I had mentioned. So I think this is all very white pilling, I'll say. I do hope that's the case because obviously we saw a very concerning truth post from Donald Trump about the need for farm workers who are illegal to stay here because their labor is cheap and they've been here a while. And, Same thing when it comes to hotels and casinos. They need the cheap labor of Hispanic maids or immigrant labor. That seems to be something he also said again in a speech later on. He then issued another post talking about the need to reimmigrate people. So very confusing.

I'm not sure what if any plan existed there. I don't know if he just kind of did the thing where he tweets things out on a lark. And then someone got a hold of him and said, no, don't do that. or if there's some level of chess being played there. But it's not a great look when you issue that kind of statement because you're doing it in the face of violence. You're seeing the violent protests right before your eyes. And when people see him assumingly back away from those positions in the face of that pressure, the message sent is violence works.

When the left gets violent, they get what they want. We're going to dial things down. Now, I don't think that's a one-to-one. I'm sure he got a lot of business pressure for the different raids that they were doing, especially on agriculture. But ultimately, that is the appearance that it gives. So I agree, Charlie, that they probably went into this with a level planning that did not exist previously. I don't think, again, the National Guard, the Marines being deployed was any kind of surprise to the Trump administration.

Their necessity probably wasn't confusing to the Trump administration. I am confused about the messaging. I don't understand why in the world you would follow up and post that in the middle of all this. Obviously, he's been a disaster when it comes to Chinese students and inviting them in. He echoed that sentiment again. But I just don't understand why he would start talking about the need to basically amnesty a bunch of illegal workers who are already here in the face of the left wing violence. Because what it looks like is, well, the left rioted and then they got what they wanted. And the message there is violence in the United States is basically the purview of the left.

They can deploy it whenever they want, and they'll get what they want when they do it. I don't think that's ultimately the plan for the Trump administration, but I really don't understand why at this moment they felt the need to come out and talk about that. It's interesting you bring up that point, Iran, because Gavin Newsom himself has already made a victory lap on this one, just like while we're talking. about not quote tweeting Trump's post about it. So he's certainly not letting the opportunity go to waste, saying, oh, look, we've won.

We've shifted the overture window on the subject. Well, and let's remember what's happening in L.A. We don't know. It doesn't look like this is specifically about raids, about illegals. It looks like it was about they went there to serve warrants on money laundering and trafficking. So, I mean, some of us feared that Trump was going to succumb to this. And I think it's easy to look at what's going on in L.A. and be like, yes, they want to get all these people out of the country.

I mean, I have a tendency to believe that what, it can be two things at once. It can be the Mexican government, also, the Mexican government in concert with the, cartels, you know, starting trouble and looking to basically take control, try to take control of Southern California, but also this could be NGOs who activated people because, I mean, let's face it, if they're going after money laundering and trafficking in Los Angeles, you can start putting pieces together and wonder if this has anything to do. could tie it to Jeffrey Epstein kind of stuff or Diddy kind of stuff? We just don't know.

And yeah, I mean, a lot of people have been critical of Trump on deportations up until now. And I think it's easy to get it's easy to get sidetracked by looking at what's going on in LA and thinking that's all about, you know, illegals and deportations. but I don't think that's what it's about at all. And very interesting points, and definitely there's a lot of factors at play here. I want to quickly get to that clip because we were mentioning it and talking about the Mexican senator bringing up the 1830 map of the United States and saying, oh, half of the United States is Mexico, and we have ancestral claims to this land. Let's listen to it. Discover five-star luxury at Trump Dunebeg.

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was 16 days of taking protest. It was the first time as to assume the car. And I said, if we're doing the mousseau, if we're going to do, but we do with the map of Mexico in 1830. So there you go. I mean, does anybody else get like vibes of, Netanyahu talking about Israel or Erdogan talking about

reforming the Ottoman Empire? It's just the same shit all the time is that no matter which country across the entire west, wherever white people are, you don't have ancestral claims to anything. I'm sorry, but that land that is allegedly part of Mexico 1830 style, that land has been part of the United States

longer than it was ever part of, a unified Mexican state. So how can you possibly say that any of the two dozen Mexicans who were in that part of, you know, which would become the United States shortly thereafter we took it from them and justly, mind you. But how can you not say that Americans are ancestral to that land? We obviously are. That's ours. It's not Mexico's. I also love how they just immediately throw out, you know, like, oh, that's not Apache or Comanche land, you know, like, oh, we found a different racial group that's going to land grab this area. No?

That's, and really, that land, anything before we went, before we went there, Spain had it. So it wasn't even, Mexicans couldn't do that on their own. They had to rely on Europeans to help settle that land. It's not even anti-colonial. Like, they're just saying, but the last colonial power was better than your colonial power. It's just anti-American. That's all. It's got nothing to do with any kind of principle.

100%. This is just another group of people wanting our shit. It's the same word is everywhere. And they're just going to use any kind of mumbo, fancy academic language you try and get what they want. But we all see what this is. Yeah, I just looked up the Newsom tweet you refer to as well. He put out a big celebration video,

which is exactly the sort of thing that we don't want happening. this is really like Pete said we don't really know what the motivation is here for the administration but we do know that they have to follow through with this whatever they're doing all the way and they

cannot putting out those tweets that Trump did today or those truths on truth social seemed very silly even if he was just doing his AB testing thing as some people have theorized it still looks really bad so you know today the

the Mexicans and the you know, commies helping them got a major win. And that seems to be a big misstep. So hopefully the administration follows through because this seems like the first really big test of the Trump administration since that sort of initial, you know, three weeks or so when they were putting out

literally dozens of executive orders. And I think if the administration, even appears to back down here, it does not bode well for the next three and a half years. Yeah, excellent point. All right, so in addition to the actual Mexican politicians talking on this story, we have a couple more things to go over just on the actual riots going on.

I mean, Oron had a show earlier this week with academic agent and AA himself while I was away, released an absolute bombshell report about the community relationship. service or the CRS. And these riots going on in LA, we're going to show a couple of clips of journals in a minute here and everyone. But this, it really just couldn't have been a better time to talk about this thing.

Because undoubtedly, this organization surely must be involved with this. It's like it's got them written all over it. Yeah, actually the very first thing that was shown where CNN said that really weird thing about the car burning, right? And that sort of harkens back to the mostly peaceful protests. from the Floyd riots, I think it was, or maybe it was Ferguson. That sort of thing may actually be, we may actually know now that those bizarre statements from the media come from the CRS, basically giving the media an instruction manual and how they're supposed to talk about these things, and that the media, not to defend them or something, but they're at least partially under duress by this federal organization that's protected, you know, from, from FOIA and having their information subpoenaed even by Congress.

But yeah, go ahead, Aaron. Oh, no, I was just going to say, obviously, we went into a lot more detail on the show, and then AAA has his own video. But I think this is a pretty huge story. Obviously, the Trump administration was already aware of the Community Relations Service, and it's nefarious nature. There had been previous people like a riot nationalist who had reported on some of what had happened there, but AAA had a far more comprehensive understanding mainly due to a book

that these people published, even though they have a high degree of secrecy that they get to operate with under the Civil Rights Act, even though they can basically refuse to testify, refuse most Freedom of Information Act requests, destroy their own notes that they take, without it going into any kind of record. Despite all this, these guys were so excited about bragging, you know, in 2020 when it was the summer of love and it was all George Floyd and it was the end of history and the left was going to be in power forever. They basically conquered the chuds and they were never going to allow them to ever hold power again. They're like, oh, we want to run out and take credit for all the amazing things that we did. And so it's just kind of laid out

how evil this organization is. And so the Trump administration was already somewhat aware and they had already slated this organization ultimately for some kind of demise. But I got contacted after I put out the thread detailing a lot of what was in AA's video by the Office of Management and Budget to let me know that they had indeed zeroed out the budget for this organization in the bill that is now waiting to pass in Congress. Now that doesn't completely eliminate the organization. It's still statutorily required by Title X of the CRA or sorry of yeah, no, of the CRA. And so the only thing you can do is either amend the Civil Rights Act or repeal the Civil Rights Act, which I think would be wise, ultimately. But at least we know that if this budget finally passes, the organization itself would have no more funding for what it's supposed to be doing.

That itself would be really important for the next several years. But the key here is it's not surprising that the Trump administration is going to sounds like, fully defund the CRS. I mean, they defunded it significantly in his first term, so it's not like they weren't aware of it, but it will come back. It will simply come back like a zombie

if the Civil Rights Act, Title X, is not amended. It basically removed through amendment, and this can be done. The Civil Rights Act has been amended before in a progressive direction. There's no reason why it can't be amended to simply remove the CRS from existence. And I would say we basically have

three and a half years to get that done. This organization needs to go. I mean, I think we should just remember that we have three and a half years to get a lot done. I mean, everything you want to get done has to be done in the next three and a half years. There will be an election again in three and a half years. It would be nice to sit here and think that, oh, there's no way that they'll vote another shit lib into office. but then let's remember that not all of the elections in the past have been on the up and up. So, you know, if they're not doing everything they can right now to destroy their enemies

and make sure that they can never take office again, somebody fellow OGC member said earlier this week that if you're governing right now, you have to govern like you're, like your enemy is never going to be an office again. And really the only way you can do that is you have to make sure that they can never be in office again. And that's going to take will and it's probably going to take a lot more will than we've seen so far. So, you know, we shall see. Sorry, I bring this black pill up every stream. But it's true.

If these people aren't destroyed now, they will be back. Yeah, absolutely true. we have more stuff to talk about in the future here about governing like your enemies never going to win again and about us being in charge but we'll get to that when we come to it but do you guys have any more comments on the CRS before we go into a montage of some of these protesters getting taken down by the cops for a little bit of a white pill?

Sure I mean here's the book right here for the CRS We can't say for sure exactly what they're doing because it's secret, but there's absolutely no way they don't have people on the ground. You know, we're conciliators, as they're called. Were they responsible maybe for people receiving American flags in place of Mexican flags? That sounds like something they might do. I mean, from their tactics, they... Discover five-star luxury at Trump Dunebeg. Unwind in our luxurious spa.

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Liddle. value. It would be interesting to try and to do switch organizations they might be working with because we know what these people do is they go to churches, they go to existing organizations and try and find the moderate ones to counteract the more radical ones. They will train what they call marshals to help rally people. They're probably relying on that a lot, I would guess,

since they're so understaffed right now. because of previous defunding. And, you know, what they, what they're doing is they just stop, stop our enemies from making mistakes. You know, basically our enemies have a permanent federal task force stopping them from making mistakes. And our side is heavily disadvantaged because of that. So that's one of the reasons they need to go, because they're, it's so powerful. It's such a powerful tool that the enemy has to federally moderate all of their protests, from the very beginning of the Civil Rights Act to now.

Every single case, it's all been controlled and moderated. And, you know, that sold as like a good thing, right? Because they're stopping the radicals, but it's literally just the ratchet, right? They are an essential part of the civil rights progressive ratchet. And look, it simply has to be removed. And this needs to be done. And like P said, there's a million other things that need to be done. What we're seeing now in LA seems to be a little bit more serious than the administration did last time from 2016 to 2020.

But it's not enough, not even close to enough yet, you know. So we'll see what happens in the next three weeks. But yeah, this, this, the CRS stuff, hopefully it doesn't fade into the background because they're, This thing just has to be destroyed. Look. And, yeah, it would be, like I said, it would be interesting to try and pin down, like, where they might be operating within these riots as well. But obviously, that would be extremely difficult. Anyway, I'll stop rambling now. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, especially when during the first Trump administration, when they did significantly defund this organization, I mean, now is the time to act and now it's the time to strike. And Charlie is absolutely correct. I do hope that this doesn't just fade into obscurity. you know, I mean, in this day and age, it's kind of sad, you know, especially when A.A. does his expose in this video, and the very next day you got Elon Musk doing his spurred out on Trump and just immediately the new cycle pivots to something else. You know, but like this, this is actually really important stuff. And now that the Trump administration is in charge, take the opportunity now and get rid of these guys.

So it can be done and it should be done. All right, guys. How about we get a little bit of a white pill in here and look at some of these pro-tebrose. testers getting taken down and throwing in irons by the cops or in this first one. I mean, talk about, you know, hating journals all the time because you can never hate them enough. Let's take a look at this one. Moving them on through the heart of L.A. You just, you just shut the crap.

I mean, did you guys see like the new like soy jack meme that was made out of this one? Yeah. Like her pointing backwards. Well, let's let's. Let's remind everybody all journalists are bastards. Yeah, this was a great clip. I love how you can just see him decide that he's had enough of her, and he just hits her the back of the league.

I hate how these journalists think they're just allowed to stand wherever they want. They just have a free pass to be anywhere at any time, as long as just because they're the press. And there's literally a riot line here. Nobody is allowed to approach that, even if you're a journalist. So, yeah, he did the right thing. And also it's hilarious. It's only a matter of time before one of these guys breaks out my sign.

Like, that's all I'm really hoping. Yeah, really. All right, I here we got another one right here. One of these guys gets taken out by a nice officer. So let's see. While this person plays noun or thing or whatever the hell it is, attacks the comp and ends up getting sweep by the leg. my God, and nearly put in a body bag.

And all I can hear is a man going, ah, what is he turning into the freaking incredible Hulk? Use your brains, man. You're under arrest. You're going to try and attack him, try and freaking break his shit in half. Well, guess what? You're going to get tossed up like a freaking Caesar salad.

That was some quality judo there. That's at least two points. Yeah. It's the same thing we see all the time in like body cam footage with another service. certain group, but it's like, dude, you're already, the cop is already on you. Like, there's nothing you could do to get out of the situation. It's like, what do you think is going to happen? You're a step on that guy's toe, like,

it's looney tunes. He's going to, like, jump up and down and now you're going to make your grand escape while you're in handcuffs. There's cops standing around you. Like, what the hell you think is going to happen? To be fair, these people live in a video game. Yeah, they've never experienced physical violence. They have no clue, right? Like, they watch a Marvel movie. I saw a lady in a Marvel movie one time. Flip, like, 15 dudes. So that's going to work for me. right like that

yeah it's like we had we had that congressional letter I mentioned earlier up on screen and there I saw on Twitter you know people who are allegedly part of this organization like freaking out on Twitter or Blue Sky or wherever they're organizing and it's that's like yeah you can't just you know involve yourself in terrorism and just expect like nothing to happen just because like you're the good guys or whatever I mean these people just have no actual contact or reality

I saw that other, you know, copy pasta that goes around today about how, you know, they can't separate, you know, truth from lies because they're, yeah, it's, they have absolutely no contact with the real world until something like this happens. Yeah, I mean, funny enough, we're going to talk about that Homeland Security account again in a moment, but that copy posse. Charlie, yeah, it's like when you live completely in fiction, I've talked about this before, but, um, You guys know when like, okay, so say you bring up like any, it doesn't even necessarily need to be about politics or, you know, just be any topic. And somebody will bring it up in the discussion, oh, like what they did on land man. You know, it's like, oh, oh, so like you really just have no content, like, you know, grounding in the, in the actual real world of things going on. It has to go back to some like TV show you're watching on like TNT or whatever. Yeah.

Sometimes I just wish they would bring up a DC comic. This is very true. There's so much better. All the characters are better, everything. But, yeah, so here's this guy going and reaching for an officer's gun just gets decked right in the face. You know, I mean, honestly, this guy got off kind of light, you know? I would have done like some sock pee on this guy, you know, weapons or attention, punch him and then shoot him. But, you know.

Yeah, I really want to see these people get what they deserve. and that's a lot more than a punch in the face. Very true. We got another one here, I think, too. Let's take a look. Oh, okay, nope, that's all of them. All right, cool. So, yeah, I mean, there were plenty of these going around.

I saw one where I think it was like one of the protesters got shot or like, no, no, no. He threw something, he threw like a milkshake or something on one of the cops. And one of the bystanders came running into a. just like football tackled him right into the dirt and then the cops came in and handcuffed the guy and let the guy off who uh tackled the guy for him. So I saw people saying that he was a plain closed police officer

which given the swiftness of the response makes perfect sense. But the yeah, the takedown was beautiful. Like we he didn't just get tackled like it was it was a beautiful double leg take down that guy got completely scooped slammed to the ground. It is you know

absolutely beautiful thing to behold. Even though it probably was a police officer ultimately still amazing footage. You know, as somebody who grew up playing street hockey and wasn't always smart enough to wear a helmet and has had my head bounced off the concrete a couple of times. Yeah, you remember that. You remember that. So, you know, good on whoever that was.

Yeah. Yeah. Right on. Well, we've already kind of mentioned Gavin Newsom a little bit on this one, mostly in response to President Trump. truths. It was just so weird. Yeah, that's what they call it on true social. Yeah, I'm sending out truths.

But here's what Gavin Newsom tweeted out. This was just yesterday. I'm talking about the founding fathers did not live and die to see this moment. It's time for all of us to stand up peacefully. Yeah, because the founding fathers, known Spanish speakers, mind you. Yeah, they were signing the Declaration of Independence and passing on this country to

Mexicans to break into the United States and light cars on fire. That's just what all of those. guys wanted. I mean, let's let's take a minute to stop and criticize the founding fathers for a little bit because while we're looking

to get rid of people that they want to come in here and pick fruit and pick crops, they made some mistakes about some of the people they brought in to pick crops. And now this is this over the nation of the hamshada.

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As the Romans taught, this cheap labor always comes with a cost. Or as Nick, or as Nick Land said, most expensive cotton in the history of mankind. By the way, you know, guest on the Warren McIntyre show on Friday. Really? Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We cut the episode on Wednesday.

I'll be playing it tomorrow. Oh, cool. Incredible. Yeah, definitely be sure to listen to that one, folks. Well, that would be really cool. Anyway, but yeah, so here's Gavin Newsom who, I mean, well, Charlie, you were one of the guys I saw first. Actually, I'm throwing this take out there right at the start of this thing. Why don't you talk about the Trump administration's response to Gavin Newsom on the onset of this thing?

Because up into this whole saga, he was certainly looking like the Democrat frontrunner for 2028 by a long shot. I mean, do they have anybody else except this guy? well I'm sure the Democrats have someone in mind that's not him that they plan on deploying because Newsom is it's quite clear that he intends and that's why he didn't run last time he intends to run in his own terms as the moderate Democrat who's going to you know bring

you know normalcy or whatever back to the party and the problem is is I mean especially before today this operation looks pretty Uber Machiavellian You have Trump and Vance sort of tag teaming Newsom on Twitter. They keep referring to Newsom specifically. I think it's quite clear that part of what is going on here is this whole operation is being conducted in part to basically cut the floor out of Newsom's fledging sort of presidential run.

You know, he's already campaigning, which is how you do it, right? In America, you start campaigning years before the actual election. And the problem for Newsom is that he has to oppose Trump, whatever Trump does. in his state. So what it does for Newsom is it forces Newsom to go into the crazy box or crazy closet, I guess I said this case, and defend indefensible things, which he really doesn't want to do. I mean, Newsom does not want to be in this position. I think that's why he was so happy today that Trump showed that weakness because it enabled him to signal victory. Whereas here, I mean, look at this. They're in some sort of broom closet. He's probably not.

even really in control of anything happening here. And, you know, this is just trying to make it seem like he's actually in charge. He, it's, it's, it's on Trump and Vance to screw this up, basically. Like, as long as they don't screw up, Newsom's screwed, because he has to continuously defend everything that Trump's enemies do, no matter how crazy it is. And so long as Vance and Trump don't, don't screw that up and don't allow him to sort of flip it into some sort of victory like he's trying to do, he's basically going to be screwed. So I like what Vance and Trump are doing is a pretty pro move, I would say, in terms of

getting rid of this guy before he becomes a real problem, because they correctly recognize that Newsom is the big threat in terms of the next, whoever runs for president, you know, I guess we assume it's going to be Vance. Right now, Newsom is the big threat that needs to be taken out as early as possible. And I think they've done a good job of that, except for today, which allowed Newsom to, you know, sort of claim a major victory over the Trump administration, you know, just over some text on the screen. I mean, that's what's so interesting about this conflict, too, is that, like, these riots are pretty small. I mean, they're confined to small areas. You see it looks pretty crazy on screen, but it's like, it's all just rubber bullets and no actual, like, very little actual violence is happening. There's always the chance that it could spiral out of control. but, you know, a lot of this is just, in some way, the point of this is just to collect all the footage and photos and, you know, show how crazy Trump's opposition is. And that's definitely been achieved. But as we said earlier, I mean, there has to actually be a material follow-through. This can't just be like a media campaign that the Trump admin is running. There needs to be some real meat to this operation, whatever they're trying to do. Even if it is just to totally, you know, crush California. I mean, maybe there's some sort of larger intent here to increase federal controls over California. Maybe there's some plan to try and flip the state back.

Who knows? I mean, we're just spitballing here. Hopefully, hopefully there's some bigger intent here that the administration has planned. So, yeah, that's my take on Newsom. And, you know, probably five, ten years ago, I would have. said, let them, you know, let California succeed. Nah, I want California. I want the resources.

They stay with us. Take the country. Take the country, I consider states to be their own countries. Take the country. You know, this is one of these things that, even though I spent a lot of time in libertarian circles, and this is going to be an excellent segue into our next topic that we're going to discuss. But this was always one of those things about individual parts. the United States succeeding, we're just going to let them go, just always sat wrong with me.

I remember I actually got in an argument with Michael Malice about this at Tom Woods 2000, funny enough, when I just brought up to him. It's like, dude, I think secession seems like concession to me. It's like, oh, yeah, we're just going to surrender a part of the United States, like California just to the left and just going to magically leave us alone, right? I mean, that's just ridiculous. And then on top of that as well, it's like, dude, like, that's part of my country. That's my home.

I'm not just going to surrender this to, you know, people who can literally destroy it. I mean, people forget, and I will point people once again to, Pete, your show that you did, but Thomas on the history of California, your three-part series, which is excellent, and people should go back and listen to it. But California was the American dream personified until very, very recently, like within the last 40 years is when, you know, California started really going to shit. You know, it's, this can be reconquered and reclaimed. It's not an insurmountable goal. And let's remember, I mean, no matter what happens in the outcome of the elections and you can question those all you want, whenever they do a referendum there, whenever they're like, oh, let's vote on gay marriage or, oh, let's vote on this and that, it always, those always come out conservative. Those always come out on our side and courts have to overturn them.

So, I mean, there's good people out there. And they need to be saved. I used to think that, you know, I still believe probably some sort of secession is going to happen in the future. I don't know if that's next year or if it's 100 years, you know, 100 years from now. But these people are never going to leave us alone. If Alabama, if Tennessee split from North Carolina, if those two seceded and they were like, you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. The shitlubs in North Carolina are going to look at Tennessee and be like, they've banned abortion over there.

We need to do something about it. And honestly, some of the people in Tennessee may look at abortion on demand. in North Carolina or, and I'm not saying North Carolina would do this, I'm just using two states that are connected. They say, oh, well, you know, they have abortion. They have partial birth abortion over there. We have to go do something. You have to defeat your enemy.

You have to defeat your enemy or else this is never going to end. Well, we're going to get more to about defeating enemies in a second here. But one final thing that we just have to bring up on the California stuff is that, the senator from California, Alex Padilla. What an amazing tweet here, by the way. You know, like no one is above the law. Sheriff, you agree. And he gets arrested by trying to break into Chrissy Nome's press conference today,

which is just very much chef's kiss. Unfortunately, I mean, you know, obviously nothing really is going to happen as a result of this one. But, you know, just the idea of senators getting arrested is a nice start, I should say. that's kind of like the journalist I mean who does this guy think he is he's a congressman it's not going to be someone important you know can't just walk wherever you want

he's a senator and that's really weird because it's like I mean I know California has two senators I think the other one is Schiff right it's weird that I didn't know who the other one was but um I don't even think if I'm not mistaken I don't think he was born here either

I'd have to look that up but I wouldn't be surprised at this point I mean, in his press conference that he gave afterwards, after he was released, he had the whole thing in Spanish. So, you know, just to further prove the point. Well, he wasn't born here. He was born in L.A. I mean, ultimately it kind of,

it kind of produces some good optics for the left because they're going to think this just makes him look cool. It would have been a lot more satisfying if they actually, like it was said that he assaulted. them, but I watched the whole video and they just sort of escort about the room as he struggles, and then they just... On the many days of Christmas, the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee, a visit filled with festivity. Experience the story of Ireland's most iconic beer in a stunning Christmas setting at the Guinness Storehouse. Enjoy seven floors of interactive exhibitions and finish your visit with brett taken views of Dublin City from the home of Guinness.

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of Noam. He went in there looking for this. This is what he wanted. These were the optics. He resisted just enough to get escorted out and to get arrested, but not enough to actually suffer any consequences or incur any serious charges. Like, they're stupid, but trust me, every bit of this was planned.

Like, this was a stage show from the beginning. No, speaking of other politicians, from this one. The other person that came out in the wake of all this, I forget that name of the person, but one of the congresswomen from Minnesota just came out and proudly declared on the floor that she's an illegal immigrant in the United States,

and so we're all for family members. It's like, hello, knock, knock, Department of Homeland Security, ICE, Tom Holman, can't go get this woman right now? They really should. I mean, there's no reason not to. It has to be investigated. She could just be lying to try and score credibility,

just like that menswear guy who knows what his status actually is, but this can't be allowed. I mean, if they, if no matter who you are, if you, if you proclaim that, it has to at least be investigated. If it's true,

then, yeah, get rid of them. I mean, again, it signals weakness when, you know, your opponents can just sort of declare that they're breaking the law,

and you're simply unable to do anything about it. So, that's excellent point. The first, the first couple days or week or however long this has been now is, has been fairly, fairly good. for the admin.

There was definitely a script today. But now that things are, here's the thing about the right in general and also the administration. The advantage that they have is moving quickly, right?

Like he did in the beginning of his term. They have to move quickly and get things done before the enemy can react efficiently. We can see how things are just like here. We can see how the stage management is starting to kick in and the left will make fewer and fewer mistakes the longer this drags on. So whatever Trump advance are trying to do here, they'd better

get it done quickly and effectively. You know, 30 days, okay, that's probably short enough for, you know, this to not get out of control. But, you know, we can see the enemies start to organize more effectively and start to produce some wins. This can't be allowed. And they can't, you know, these senators and whoever, these CEOs who proclaim that they're illegals, I mean, all the stuff, it's going to build up and build up and build up and it's just going to backfire if the administration doesn't secure like a major incontroversial or uncontroversial win, right? Like it has to be a clear, absolute victory over these people. And if it's not, it's just going to weaken the next thing the administration tries to do.

what they're doing right now is that they're calling their bluff and you better not be bluffing uh trump administration with this kind of stuff uh you know you better have like some aces in the hole or so or at least like a good pair uh you know a decent hand back but you can't just have this shit for people just like openly floating and breaking immigration law some people in the some of the highest offices of the united states maybe a fucking congresswoman for god's sake well yeah she's an illegal immigrant fucking get rid of her yeah i mean congressman have, or senators have no, no legal

immunity to that sort of thing. So, yeah, it has to be done. You know, if... It's also a basic requirement to run. So that means she committed fraud by running. That's all. That should be the end of the argument. Yeah, removed from office and deported.

Yeah, so we'll see how this play is out. They can have a special election. They do them all the time. Well, like what... Yeah, this is not complicated. Yeah, yeah. I mean, unfortunately, we've received this all time because Congresswoman and senators die all the fucking time in the United States.

More and more older and older now is more of them reach like 90 years old, like Diane fucking Feinstein. But, well, yeah, they can have a special election deporter over with. You can fix this in two weeks. Yeah, the administration had better not be bluffing here. Because if they're bluffing, they're screwed. I mean, and remember the, you know, even the big, Beautiful Bill has not passed yet.

So this is a big deal. The administration can't take a major L out of this. It just can't happen. And not only that, they can't just sort of skate by. It has to be a major victory. If the admin does not secure a major victory by like July, then we've got serious problems here. Very true. All right.

Let's move on to, well, in lieu of the topic about the Big Beautiful Bill. talking about taking back your country and not leaving any part of it. Let's talk about our favorite group of people that have just been the absolute thorn in the side for the last two weeks. And I just received word earlier today that these two guys actually got banned from the what was like the White House press, or no, the White House. It was one of these fancy ass dinners, you know, they have. But Rand Paul and Thomas Massey were uninvited from this thing.

And of course, they were making a big stick about it. But here we go. Orrin, this was Chef's Kiss. Why don't you tell us right now what you were talking to with Thomas Massey on Twitter this week and why he needs to be ridiculed? You know, I've defended Thomas Massey several times ultimately because I do feel like he was somewhat principled. You know, I don't agree with him on everything, but I understand where he's coming from. And he's good on certain issues that do need to be addressed on a regular basis. but the just inability of libertarians to read the room to understand the priorities here,

it's like, look, man, I get it. Like, I'm with you ultimately that the spending in the United States is a huge problem. But you have signed on to a lot of spending bills, including increases on the debt ceiling for Barack Obama, I believe, and like all kinds of, or maybe Joe Biden, but it's not right in front of me, but he has voted for a number of spending increases. but he gets really, really obstinate when it comes to a Republican passing one. And I get it, again, like, he's worried about the debt, perfectly reasonable. But at the end of the day, I don't care if Greater Mexico is, like, 0.3% less in debt because of some spending cuts.

Like, I care if I have a country. So, yes, ultimately, like, is this bill a problem? Sure, yes, but you voted for many bills that are a problem. Can you vote for the one that actually gets me border security and a border rule? wall? No, of course not. And then Massey comes in and he's like, but I've got a chart in the most libertarian moment ever. It's amazing. I mean, who do these people even think they're talking to? It's like, does, does anyone not think the federal deficit is a problem? It's like, you don't need to convince us, dude, but that's just not the important thing right now. Can you see that?

But look at this response here in this graph. She just says, I'm sorry, but you're getting played. It's like, motherfucker, like, what? You think that none of us know about, like, the current problems with the United States deficit and the debt spending? Like, oh, dude, you just don't know the facts, man. The Trump administration is just pulling the wool over your eyes, man. Let me pull out this extreme graph that's actually going to show all the numbers, man. It's like, dude, I get it. We all know about debt.

We just don't fucking care. We got other shit to deal with right now. Well, libertarians are fundamentally materialists, you know, and so they can't understand any issue outside of material problems. They're right about the financing. They're right. But that's because they're right about that, that's actually a bigger problem because it doesn't allow them to see anything else. They know the tree. They're very familiar to the tree.

They're absolutely right about the tree. And so all they're going to do is argue about the tree, even as the forest burns. And so it's like, yeah, I get it, man. Like the math does not math. I'm with you. This is an issue. However, order of operations, right? Like, it matters if I have a country.

It matters if I have borders. I can fix the monetary problem if I have borders in a country. If I deport a large number of illegals, many of my monetary problems will be solved because I won't be spending, you know, billions of dollars, if not trillions of dollars, on illegal immigrants for their education, their health care, everything else, the crime that they commit, all of these things. Like, we can actually remove a large number of the,

problems you're worried about spending wise if you fix the cultural problems. But because the libertarians don't understand cultural problems, they don't understand any kind of metaphysical existence, they're just like, no. The only thing that matters is the balance sheet. It's all just Excel spreadsheets. And if I make

the number go down, that's all that matters. They can't grasp the cause of why the problems exist. They can only look at the numerical accounting of the problem. And that gets you nowhere. So they think they throw a graph up like this and that's the solution. I've got a couple more graphs to throw at you Massey. I got some

graphs about demographics. I got some graphs about crime. I got some graphs about education and how all of that links to spending. And if you look at those graphs, I think we could solve this problem, but you're not interested in those graphs because those graphs are complicated. And what you want is the simple, you know, just libertarian answer.

I rearranged the numbers on the Excel spreadsheet. I've solved the problem. That's all they've got. Let me put this thought experience forward. What if for the next, for the entire Trump administration, just imagine if the administration spent literally nothing and all money that the government took in was dedicated towards paying down the national debt. And we just

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Terms apply for more infoosies sky.a slash speeds. Okay, now, now three and a half years from now, a Democrat gets elected. Now what? They just continue the same program, go back to deficit spending, and then we lose. It's like, so even like the most, the most optimistic possible debt repayment scenario, how would that even accomplish?

Like, you literally, you have to destroy your opponents here. I mean, and he's, he's really making our argument for us, because if the whole idea is like the country is basically on the point of like collapse from some sort of financial crisis, that's like, okay, well, we better spend the money now before it gets back in the hands of the enemy because if the U.S. enters some major crisis and like the power of the the state actually collapses then how the how the hell we're going to get rid of you know 60 million people like well it just that doesn't that doesn't matter to them what matters is they're right libertarians want to be right they want to be able to say i told

you so and so like the only thing that libertarians and really just one of them angeloa mcardle has ever accomplished is getting Ross Solberg taken out of prison, someone who facilitated drug use or facilitated drugs being traded anonymously on the internet. Okay.

What's some other stuff? What's some other stuff that I'm rag about? Oh, we were for gay marriage before anybody else is for gay marriage. Oh, we were for legalizing drugs before all these states. Yeah, so basically, you were for before all of these things that degrade the culture and then when the regime

decides, well, we need to degrade the culture even more, they agree with you. So it's like, oh, see, we've been saying we want this for so long. Yeah, well, they've caught up. They've caught up. They see the damage it'll do. And they call that a win.

All they care about is being right. All they want to be able to do is go, look, this is how economics works. They'll tell, you, libertarianism is almost, it's probably 90% economics, and then they'll start screaming at you, oh, well, you know, it's about private property, it's really about private

property, but, I mean, they don't care if some fucking Mexican is, you know, it's like, oh, well, if a Mexican is squatting on your property, I mean, then you can shoot them. It's like, oh, really, really, you can do that when you have DAs that'll put you in jail for that. It's like, they're

fucking, they have no idea what real politics is. They have no idea how to navigate politics. They have no idea how power works. It's all about economics. They will tell you that if you get the right kind of economics and people thrive, that all of this degeneracy you're worried about will go away. And I'm like, oh yeah, rich people, I don't know any rich people who are degenerate and do degenerate stuff. I mean, it's, they're, you know, Z-Man has the best idea. Yeah, he wants to put out shirts that says, they say punch a libertarian when you see one.

They'll know what they did. Yeah, because, yeah, if you hit a libertarian, believe me, as somebody who was a libertarian, and I think, you know, Red Hawk, Red Hawk knows this. You're just insufferable half the time, more than half the time, because you're just like, oh, I know how to fix this in theory. Well, how do you fix it in reality? Well, you know, you'd have to use power, but using powers immoral. Okay.

Then you're at a book club, and this is a hobby for you. So, fuck off. Yeah. All the way off. I mean. Isn't it like all value subjected to these people anyway? So it's like, my subjective value is I literally don't. care. Let's just grant that he's completely right. They're completely right in that the economy

crashes. But if, if, but, but, but let's also say that spending that money actually accomplishes, you know, getting rid of the 60 million illegals or whatever the number is. That's fine. I don't, I don't care if there's a massive economic crash and I'm really poor if we save the country. Like, we can survive an economic disaster. That's happened many times. But they're not, they're not allowed to they you're not allowed to do that because then police or authority figures or the state is doing that and they're evil oh no it's all fake you know the state the state's a legal fiction bro it doesn't exist borders don't you know borders don't borders don't exist while they're screaming about russia invading ukraine borders don't exist bro i mean if they're punch a libertarian

That's it. Well, it's, it's annoying to have to, like, it's, do you know that, it's like in a Murdoch, Murdoch, you have the Donald character, right? That's what the libertarians are. You have, you have, you have Rand Paul complaining that he wasn't invited to the party. It's like, yeah, dude, that's because we don't like you. It's like, I wouldn't invite you to the fucking party either.

Like, we just don't like you. Stop trying to, like, pretend like we're friends or something. You suck. Good. I'm glad you weren't invited to the stupid party or whatever, the picnic that Trump had. Like, it's just weird it's like the same thing with massey it's like you're not my friend bro just because you don't take money from AI pack like if you betray trump over and over again i'm sorry like stop

like you're like cool with us because you're not like literally the thing is the thing is about that too and i've talked about this previously is that the thing about thomas massy i mean listen it's great to you don't take money from apac right but it's almost like kind of gay because he doesn't even do it for the right reasons you know to not take money from apac you know it's like, oh, I don't take money from foreign politicians. Like, well, that should just be like, you know, simple, you know, reason enough for everyone. But, like, the actual reason that you shouldn't be taking money from Israel is because, well,

we know why, right? There's other reasons. I'm in fucking Tehran right now. Well, there's that. Yes. Yes. But the, you know, there's, like, people try and say like, oh, like, it's like hyper-based because, like, he doesn't like a certain group.

And this is why, you know, Thomas Massey is really cool. It's like, no, he actually like doesn't take money from Israel because for the gayest reason possible. So it's like he's like hyper-based about it. And they're literally, they're literally bombing Israel right now. And one of the reasons, one of the main reasons they're doing it is because they know that the United States was going to negotiate with it. I mean, they're bombing Iran right now. And they know the reason why they're bombing Iran right now is because the United States was going to negotiate with them in a couple of days. I will say this.

Marco Rubio has come out with a statement saying it being clear that Israel did this without their approval and they are not involved. And the United States is only interested in protecting American troops. And Iran should not retaliate against the United States because they have no, they're in no way involved in that. What a wonderful answer. I mean, you know what? Here's another thing. I hope Dave Smith and all the other libertarians take that one to the bank because I just heard not. nonstop from these people from day one about how Marco Rubio was just the biggest hawk in the

entire world. It was going to declare war on the entire Middle East the second he got into the office. You know, so. Well, thank you. And I would like to, I would like to thank Israel because oil just went up $5 in like the last hour. And yeah, I've been long on oil for a while. So thanks, guys. Very nice. Well, one of the, there's a couple other things I want to mention on this libertarian topic as well.

I mean, listen, they're one of our favorite punchy bags on the show and they entirely deserve it. But I don't even want to even grant these guys the fact that like, oh, you might be 100% right about the economics. It's like, listen to your guys. I've heard this sky is falling stuff about economics and the debt for my entire basically adult political life at this point. And you really just have to start asking yourselves, listen, I'm not an economist. I don't understand like all this stuff down to the micro degree. but if you keep saying this thing is going to happen, and the debt might as well be $100 trillion at this point,

because it's insurmountable. It's never going to be fixed the way these people want to be fixed. So whether the number goes from 30 to 35 to 40 to 100, it just doesn't fucking matter at this point. You might be right on some economics, Austrian, econ, textbook, or something like this. But if the theory doesn't actually play out in the real world, I'm not going to argue about it,

And I'm not going to stand for you holding up the administration when we have 100 million illegals that we need to deport right now because of a number on a spreadsheet that really is going to change anything. They want more. They want more illegals here because they don't consider them illegal because that order is fake. And the government is fake. And it's illegitimate. And they use force.

And force is illegitimate. And taxes are illegitimate. And they just want, you know, like they don't want it. They want a society where any, basically any power in the world can walk in and fill the vacuum. And they don't think that's going to happen because they think that if all this went away, people are going to choose. They actually think that people are going to choose like a narco-capitalism. If like, if the government like, poof, went away tomorrow, they actually think. that they're going to pick their,

people are going to pick their way because everybody wants to be free. After 2020, everybody wants to be free. It's essential three counterpoints to all libertarianism is like thinking that everyone has a right to be free, everyone wants to be free, and then everyone should be free. It's like none of those are correct. All three of those central axioms to libertarianism all have major flaws with them.

Did you see that, that Dave Portnoy like did this whole thing in Africa and sub-Saharan Africa where he went and built wells everywhere and it came out recently that none of those wells are working. Do you know why? Because no sub-Saharan African country has a word for

maintenance. Has a word in their language for maintenance. Yeah, everybody wants to be free, bro. Everybody, yeah. I mean, invite those people in Zancafstan. It'd be awesome. You're right about the size of the debt, though, I mean, the U.S. debt is a matter of war and peace. It's not an economic matter.

This is what these libertarians don't understand. It's like they, wait, I'm sorry. The state is illegitimate, so it doesn't matter. Okay. And, you know, and I'll, I'll end on this. Any libertarian who hears this is going to say straw man, straw man, straw man. Go fuck yourself. I beat your straw man with a fucking baseball bat.

Exactly. I'm not here. I don't care. Yeah, this isn't an arguments club. This is a debate club hour. Yeah, just, yeah, literally just fuck off. Fuck right off. I don't care. There is a reason why the first people that were dealt with after the Bolshevik revolution were the anarchists. Oh, God. Because they were annoying.

Yeah, exactly. Fucking hell. Just imagine an entire room of Michael Malice's. Oh, my God. well anyway so now that we've gotten that out of the way and boy it's a cathartic yeah really

god do I love it I love shitting I'm libertarians so much fun I'm gonna come alright let's let's make sure we overdose on white pills a little bit more here and we have to

this is just so amazing this is one of those things that happened that it's just like holy shit you know like posters in control man. Let's give a special shout out to our friend, CJ Engel, on this one guys. So let's listen into MSNBC having an absolute freak

out over one of our good friends making a meme. Let's watch. I have very mixed feelings about showing this to both of you. It is news, but it is news from the Trump administration. It's a post from the Department

of Homeland Security that they put on X, advertising a tip line with a post that reads, quote, help your country and yourself report all foreign invaders. This is your taxpayer dollars, or this of who you voted for, if you pay taxes. Your taxes are paying for this ad being disseminated on Elon Musk's platform X that says, quote, help your country and yourself report all foreign invaders. Sir, you can't spend tax dollars that way.

sir, sir. Is this a professional news organization? Like, this is amazing. Dude, I wish C.J. Engel was getting paid tax dollars to make this meme. Man. Man, deserves it. What government would ever do propaganda?

I don't know. It's like, literally, it is propaganda repurposed. I don't know. It's like, it The great news is we're just one step away from getting Bill the butcher posting on On the fish of government accounts, it's going to come. Hell, yeah. In front of the no nothing flag.

Yeah, exactly. Dude, I got to tell you, I mean, I'm impressed with whoever's running the Homeland Security account is absolutely one of our guys. Zoomer's in control, man. Oh, for sure. I mean, that account has been on an absolute tear last couple days. They're dropping all of our memes. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy.

And then on the other hand, you have this like millennial run. account from Gavin Newsom where it's like they're posting memes about him being General Grievous or Stephen Miller being General Grievous and I saw another one of Stephen Miller as like a gargoyle like just

making them look cool for one thing but it's literally like millennials versus zoomers on government Twitter accounts and that's crazy. It is kind of funny I mean General Gravis was the coolest character in the entire prequel series and it's also like you guys are like Confederacy posting but then you compare your opposition

to the Confederacy in Star Wars, it's like, get your like meme straight, man. Like, they don't even have it straight, you know? What a fun time. I mean, one of the things I really want to stress about this, not just like, you know, shouting out to our friend, obviously, if you're doing a great job. But, I mean, all the stuff that we do, you know,

on this online sphere has impact. It actually does penetrate into the real world. It penetrates into the White House, into positions of power. Everybody who, one of the things that people were sparing out about this week was how people like Matt Walsh and Japisobic and Charlie Kirk, we're finally coming around and we're just openly posting

that we need full-blown immigration moratoriums on stuff like this. And you get to positions like that when people who have these massive platforms and have to shift on these issues from people like us, people in the audience, people in OGC chapters, people in our wider thing, whatever we want to call it. No, just actively posting all the time. It does have an impact.

And here you go. Literally, CJ Engel just goes and makes a meme out of his own time and you have a government account tweeting it out. Never stop posting. I'd like to apologize to a semi-gog and say that it has an effect, not an impact. Very true. In other, oh, before we get to this, there's another thing that broke on Twitter.

Gavin Newsom's tweeting that some judge in the news, Northern District of California has issued one of them dang injunctions and he says that Trump has to return control of the National Guard to the state of California. So it's about to get interesting because the courts, look man, courts are saying you got to do it. So I guess he's got to return control of the National Guard back to California. What can you do? I mean, some judge writes it down on his little piece of paper and, uh, well, yeah, there you go. The entire election for the president of the United States is null and void because

Judge Gonzalez says so. This is Trump's Rubicon moment, right? If he doesn't just absolutely get to the point where he's like, I'm not, these judges are not in charge. I have executive power. And they have no

authority here. Then it's over. It's over. We lost. There's, all we can do is hunker down and do everything we can do. We'll see markets will start to crash. You'll see more people, the states will start opening their borders in defiance.

I mean, he has to cross the Rubicon and not set up camp. Just keep going. And if he doesn't do that, I mean, you know, then it's going to be on us. It's going to be on, you know, the old glory club becomes, you know, becomes, you know, becomes truly what it is is to make sure that we survive and we get through. Apparently the judge who made the ruling

is Charles Breyer, the brother of former Scotus, Justice Stephen Breyer. Make of that what you will. But yeah, cheers to Mr. Engel here for getting his meme featured on the news and from what I can tell actually printed out in Congress.

I mean, that's pretty awesome. Yeah. Nice job. All righty then. So let us move on to the last story that we have for the night, which, you know, in light of all the stuff going on in L.A. and everything, this one just kind of flew under the radar for some people. But this is definitely one that we have all been excited to see. So let's listen from the president's mouth. To the breaking news, we are also going to be restoring the names to Fort Pickett. Fort Hood, Fort Gordon, Fort Brooker, Fort Polk, Fort A. P. Hill, and Fort Robert E. Lee.

We won a lot of battles out of those forts. It's no time to change. And I'm superstitious. You know, I like to keep it going, right? I'm very superstitious. We want to keep it going. So that's a big story we just announced that today. Well, this is an excellent start. It is not going to be enough. until we get reconstruction of all of the statues that have been torn down of Confederate generals and other Confederate members in every single place they were ripped down in this country. But it's certainly a step in the right direction. Well, this is another one of those moments, is it? Because I think the law is that when those forts were stripped of their names, they could not be replaced with Confederate, with anyone who ever...

had insurrection against the government. The best thing to do, I think, would try to find match up names with like J-Sixers. If anybody who was a J-6er had a last name, Lee or something like that. Or what I would do is just ignore the law and put the name back on there and say, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? I mean, if he's not willing to do that at this point, again, where are we? Yeah, I don't know if there's a provision in the big beautiful bill, someone missed or something, but yeah, this is illegal and he should just do it.

I mean, he said Robert E. Lee, not just Lee, so AP Hill as well. I mean, is there some random guy with the initials AP Hill, probably, I guess, but no, they should just be renamed. And, yeah, look, screw the rules. I mean, how, Congress, sorry, Congress, you can't, you can't decide what the forts are named because. Trump is the commander-in-chief. Like, just do it. So, these moments are fast approaching now. I mean, like I said, we've got this injunction.

Just came out in California saying that actually the National Guard belongs to California and not Mr. Trump. So he's, I mean, basically, right now, he has to make this decision. Is he going to go against the courts? Is he going to go against Congress? It's basically on. I guess we're going to find out. But, you know, one of the other things I want to do.

to stress about this is that only President Trump would ever do something like this and bring this up, trying to reinstate names of Confederates. There's no other Republican that would remotely have the gall to do this over something that is just so obvious and so simple that we just should be doing. It's like, why is it that any politician in the United States is just not allowed to say any good things about the Confederacy? I mean, I keep bringing this up all the time, but Charlie, your stream that you did with Apostolic Majesty about the life of Robert Lee is some of the best content we've ever put out, like in this entire sphere. It's essential watching for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

I mean, Robert E. Lee is one of the greatest Americans this country has ever produced by far. And the fact that this man's name has a drug through the mud, particularly over the last couple of decades, is of a special kind of egregiousness. And it really just does anger me. And I'm a northerner. I'm not even from the South. Yeah, they're Americans.

I mean, what is this? The Congress passes a loss, and you can't name military bases after Americans. This is bullshit. Look, I'll say something right now, and people can get mad if they want. Properly understood, the Confederate flag is the flag of America. 100%. Frankly, I hate seeing the imperial flag hanging up everywhere, and I don't mean the pride flag. Well, we'll definitely keep an eye on this one.

Hopefully more things like this are on the horizon for this one, especially coming up the 250 anniversary, when apparently the whole country is going to be focusing on the history of each state with all these big berets and everything that Trump is talking about. I mean, there's definitely plenty of room for Southern Briden, Southern Heritage, to rise once again. So hopefully we'll see it.

But let's go through some of the super chats that got in before the internet crept out on us. If you guys are watching this on the premiere, your super chats that you're putting in will be right out next week on the stream. I'll just quickly go through the ones that we do have, and we'll read the rest of them next week. So beginning at the top, we got Solid Snake 1964. He has snuck behind enemy lines and has once again retained his number one super chatter status. So he's at the front of the line this week.

Evening gents, seeing these riots play out makes me glad I'm not in the Southwest anymore. Got to go to Somaliland, Minneapolis for family next month for homing elderly family. prayers appreciated. Yeah, well. Yeah. Peace people on you, sir, for going into enemy territory. So

let's go to Maple Copperhead for 10 bucks. Salute, gentlemen. I have to work late this evening for winning when plant managers up to CEO are getting arrested by ICE and boards are being fined

into bankruptcy. Yeah, I mean, we talked about this. I mean, you can't just go with deporting legal immigrants you do have to go to these businesses and you also have to try the people who are actually employing these legal immigrants as well I mean this is one of those things that the left is always like trying to dunk on you know people like us for and stuff he's like oh well you know the real big problem is these corporations are actually employing the illegal immigrants what do you say about that's like yeah get rid of them too find them put them out of business I don't

fucking care what do you think this is this is that your miami's you know right wing you're dealing with I have a radical idea If you're caught employing illegals We nationalize your business And there you go It was pretty simple Hmm Brown box for 10 bucks

Hello from Iowa Keep up the good work Oran Gives you a salute There you go Thank you thank you And Joshua Beebe for two bucks Says first

Ha ha ha sorry sir You are not first There were many other super shatters ahead of you Good luck Nice try. Let's see. Mr. Clockwork for five bucks says they must all go back. This is our country.

This country is ours. It belongs to us. It does not belong to the world. 100%. And if you guys want to figure out what you can do best in these trying times, be sure to check out the Ogler Club website. Get involved with your local chapters. We're approaching 30 of them now at this point.

And this week, I also want to shout out. If anyone's in the Dakota's, North and South Dakota, those guys are trying to get chapters spung up. So if you are in either of those states, they're reaching a critical mass for a amount of people that they want. But, you know, so if you're in the South Dakota or North Dakota, please reach out to us at theogloryclub at gmail.com and we'll put you in contact with those guys. And hopefully they can get something spun up up there. We truly are not a American organization until we have representation in all 50 of our great states. So let's get to it. We got Aramaic discourse for $100.

This is undoubtedly the super chat of the night, and he deserves some gold. I love gold. The look of it, the taste, a bit, the smell of it, the texture. I love gold. Thank you very much, sir. Indeed, you do love some gold. So for 100 bucks, he says, my local city planning commission voted six to one against the opening of a new

Jeep owned liquor store. specifically of one I know hates Americans. I totally didn't let people know about his feelings, about the locals be known. You can do things even directly and small. Well, fantastic. Work, sir. Thank you very much.

It never gets sold. It never gets sold. I know it's on that soundboard somewhere, and it just comes up every time. My God. Amazing. Well, well, we didn't actually even talk about the plane crash. in India today.

So that was another thing that was making the rounds earlier. But Jackson Walker, our final super chat for the night for $10,000. Keep America American mass deportations now 100%. You know, one final thing I'll mention, you know, on the subject of the libertarian discussion. You didn't see any signs at Trump rallies throughout the entire campaign season about balance the budget and cut the deficit now. You saw signs for mass deportations. That is the number one mandate that Trump has above everything else in his administration is mass deportations, solve the immigration problem.

That's what everyone voted for him for. That's what all the enemies of Donald Trump know is his main agenda for the administration as well. This is just the defining issue of our time. Nothing else matters except the demographics and immigration problem, period. Everything else is secondary. All righty. Let's go around the panel. People can promote their stuff, and we will wrap it up for the.

evening. So, Pete, you've always got shows going on? What are you cooking this week? Just dropped an episode with Thomas continuing our Continental Philosophy series on Grotus, Grotius. Yeah, I just, I don't know, I started texting with Tom Luongo and over here, and he has some choice words about Israel. And yeah, I'm just in a mood. So check out the latest with me and Thomas. Thank you. All right. All right. Charlemagne, do you have anything to promote, sir? Yeah, either today or tomorrow I should be publishing another book review of my blog, which I need to do so I can get to another important book that I'm going to be reading

in relation to some new content we're going to be publishing very soon for the Old Glory Club. Oh, yes. We will be moved. making some major announcements very, very soon about some new content coming your way to the lovely audience coming out of the Old Glory Club. So watch this space. It's going to be pretty exciting stuff. And our special guest for tonight, Warren McIntyre, always a pleasure to speak with you, sir. What do you have to promote? Well, I'll say that Pete's philosophy series has been really interesting. I'll also say that I'm most of the way through John Slaughter's novel.

So if you have not read that one, alumni of the old glory club, you should definitely do so. It's very good. And then of course, I've got the Nick Land interview dropping tomorrow on the Orrin McIntyre show. So I think everybody's going to enjoy that a lot. It's really fascinating. So check that up.

Thank you, Warren. All righty. Excellent. So for myself, be sure to check me out. I'll be around with the Rule Zero gang and post zero, not this weekend because Father's Day stuff, but next weekend I'll definitely be back around with those guys.

And later this year, hopefully, I'll have some very, very interesting and amazing content to share with everyone. I'll be keeping everyone updated on that one as it slowly gets rolled out, but it's going to be huge. So that'll be really, really cool. But with that out of the way, once again, Again, this is pre-recorded due to a technical issue, but we'll be back live next week. It will be reading out the rest of the super chats that came in live during this premiere.

So we'll see you guys next week.