The Pete Quiñones Show - 06/13 Old Glory Club Livestream - 2024 Conference After Action Report

Episode Date: June 15, 2024

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i am paul fernheit as always and i am joined by uh several good friends this evening we may have some other ones cycling in and out but at least for starters uh this evening i have with me mr charlemagne how are you doing sir uh the summer sun is very hot thank you that that's we hope it is and we hope it we hope it gets hotter because global warming is actually great because it'll turn Iowa into Italy. So we love global warming here. Mr. Turnip Seed. Ryan Turnip Seed is with us this evening. How are you, sir? I'm doing very well. How are you? I'm just outstanding. Life is great. I am joined by my very good friend, Mr. Pete Kinyanez. How are you doing this evening, sir? Doing well, doing well. Very nice to talk to people that I finally know what they look like in person.

Yeah, that's one of the best parts of these sorts of things. And I've of course, we're joined once again by a very special guest, Mr. Harvey Walbanger, president of the Virginia chapter. How are you doing this evening, Mr. Harvey? I'm doing fantastic and a little melancholic because it's not often. You can walk into a room and everyone there is your friend. Absolutely. Yeah, these, you know, just a kind of, just kind of like a little preamble, you know, these events, these events that we have are the highlight of my year, just simply because it's the same group of guys.

every single time and we're all, you know, I don't know like who goes to all of these people's houses throughout the year, but it seems like every single time we show up, no matter what the theme is or what sort of intellectual development we've done in the year prior, everyone shows up on the same page. It's like everyone agrees with the ideas. Everyone agrees with the somewhat controversial opinions for this scene and everyone is willing to put this sort of stuff first before any sort of long-held, you know, conceits or dissident opinions or perhaps comedic jokes taken a little bit too far. Everyone is, everyone is always on the same page. And that, that very, very consistently impresses me. And I'm, I'm really glad that we had such a good turnout. We had what, like 140 guys

that showed up, something like that? Yeah, like 140. somewhere around that number. A lot of excellent speakers of which was it, Ryan, you were MCing, but Mr. Charlie and, oh, yeah, Mr. Charlie and myself, we were both speakers at the event. I think we have some other speakers in the chat and watching. And it really was just very solid speeches, a very solid weekend all around, lots of cigars, lots of drinks and everything like that. And that's kind of, you know, that's kind of like, you know, the impression I came away with this event is it really, it really was this wonderful white pilling event that it's like, hey, not only are you not alone and not only do you have guys with you, but like we're, we're organizing. We're building an army. We're getting, we're getting ready to go. We're getting ready to, uh, to start advancing our ideas. Um, and that's, that's, that's kind of the most important thing that I came away from the conference with. Any, any of you gentlemen have anything that, you know, any impressions of the conference, anything that, you know, you saw, uh, any of the particular. speeches or whatever you'd like to share about that.

I was very impressed this year that by my own subjective opinion, there was not one speech that was subpar. They were all very good, which is I'm usually very critical. So that's quite the bar to pass. Every single one of our speeches and speakers was fantastic, quite frankly. No, absolutely. It being my first year, my first, I didn't go last year, I didn't go in 2020. to this being at the premier OGC event.

It was, first of all, Kelly just had things going off with, like, military precision. I don't think we were late for anything. I think everything was on time. The trains ran on time. It was perfect. And, I mean, the quality of the people who are hanging out,

not only hanging out, but the quality of the people who were asked to speak, people who I didn't know, I didn't know I'd never heard before. I was just really impressed. It was, yeah, it was, I can't wait until next year. Absolutely, absolutely, yeah. Oh, sorry, Mr. Charlemagne, were you about to go? Yeah, I was just going to give my thoughts on the conference as a whole.

The attendance was very high. We had a lot of new faces. We had a lot of old faces. Some have attended the two prior. conferences done by shieldings as well and it's nice to run into the same people again and just sort of immediately pick up where you left off and you know be very comfortable just talking with each other one of the you know the the thing is most of these conversations that happened tend to not actually be about politics or anything like that like you might imagine but they're about you know our own

areas of expertise and what we're doing in our lives and as the conference goes on There's a sort of ongoing discussion about the ideas discussed in each speech, and the speakers themselves will sometimes make addendums to what they're saying as well in reference to other speeches that have been given. And then you have the question and answer format. So one of the important things about these conferences that's so unique is it's not just like watching someone stand up and read a substack essay 15 times. you know, there's a question, there's a live question and answer phase. The questions are also

highly intelligent and very thought-provoking and you're able to discuss these things afterwards and each speech, you know, has a slight influence on the rest of the conference. So it's something you can't replicate just on

live streams or in essays or anything like that. No, absolutely. And that's something, you know, I did a little, I have these Twitter spaces, some of you tuning in right now will go to my Twitter spaces. I call them garden parties. And I don't record them. They're these sort of ephemeral things like a radio show, but Mr. Charlie was on it last night. I think Mr. Harvey popped in for a little bit as well.

But you said much the same on that, on that little Twitter space that I had last night. And that's absolutely, that's absolutely the case. Some of the best parts of these, of these conferences are just the fact that everyone, you know, the lawyer starts talking about law stuff. The finance guy starts talking about finance stuff. Homesteaders, you know, people, people like Pete, people, you know, who do homesteading, they talk about homesteading stuff, you know. Mr. Turnip seed, of course, talks about religious stuff. But it's not even just that. Like, it's not even just we all talk about our own respective alma maters. It's more so the fact that, you know, we're willing, we're more than willing to ask questions. We kind of, we intellectually

engage with everyone else on everything. And in my opinion, that's, that's really the mark of of, you know, someone said it at the, Aaron, actually, it was Aaron who said it in his speech, like, we're building an aristocracy and things like that really are the mark of a true aristocracy is just, is just the ability to discuss a wide, a wide array of topics. And real quick, before I go any further, I want to read out something very special that our partners at WBS apparel are doing. There is a stream special. If you buy a Honey Express radio shirt, you will receive 15, percent off a pair of, is that Glock or GLOC? I'm just going to say Glock polarized sunglasses.

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She's the one you want to talk to you. She was the one that everybody wanted to talk to about that. But, yeah, I don't know that I had a conversation about politics the whole time. It seemed like it was anything but. I mean, this is about building social capital, and you don't build social capital over politics. I mean, that time will come. But right now, it's getting to know, you know,

coming to realize that the people that you're associated with, the people who, you know, who are your frat brothers are the highest quality people out there and that there's no way we're not going to win. No, absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. Like, one of the key things, and if any of you gentlemen want to kind of weigh in on this,

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after it was everyone just talking about the quality of people that were there the quality of people the the you know like yeah we've got a few of them up on the stream you know i'm not going to read them word for word but you all can can look at that i think these were all the these were all attendees these were all people who took to twitter talking about how great of an experience they had and i mean i i i agree with every single one of these i don't i don't know what um if any of you other gentlemen have anything to say about that yeah if anyone ever was uh on the offense about supporting the old glory club or was worried about things going wrong, like other previous right wing movements, especially in the last few decades. If anyone was worried about

us not being able to reach our goals, which are admittedly lofty, I think that you can just ask anyone who attended this conference, and they'll be able to tell you that we have the human capital to accomplish all these things rightly. There should be no doubt seeing the caliber of each individual man that was there, that we can achieve our goals and that we can actually win. Like, this is the thing as well, is the reason that everyone's is feeling especially white-pilled coming home from this conference is because we haven't actually seen many organizations in our lifetimes, or at least not mine.

I don't know, maybe some of the older people could contradict me here. We haven't seen many organizations that are staffed by highly competent people from top to bottom who all have a sort of unified vision. This is the other thing we were told that was impossible, that we couldn't, it was impossible for the right wing to get behind a shared vision of the future. You just had to focus on enemies and sort of have this dismal negative spiral. I, I think that anyone that went to the conference can say we've proved that wrong as well. It's an amazing high to have when you're there. 100%. 100%. Yeah, no, it's, I really couldn't say it better myself. Like this is without without just beating a dead horse or repeating all the things I've

been saying for the past five, 10 minutes. But I mean, I'm sure you gentlemen kind of kind of get that feeling is it's it's it feels like we're beating a dead horse just because of how true it is. Is it's like I, you know, we've had people who are involved in some pretty serious stuff. I think we had a congressional staffer who was there. We had some some other individual, Mr. John Doyle, whose tweet is currently up on the screen was there as well, Mr. John Slaughter and they've they've all of these people have done some really cool stuff in their lives and that's the one thing that they kept emphasizing is we have never seen a room of men like this we have never seen a room of such high quality high IQ highly educated highly

you know conventionally successful people all gathered into one place for one common purpose with a shared set of instincts values and a shared vision it it really is like a once in a lifetime thing or at least a once or a very like the amount of times it happens in your lifetime is like you can count it on one hand you know um and yeah that's that's really that is that i mean shoot i don't know i don't know how to take an off ramp from this because i'll just if if you guys just let me keep going i'll just i'll just keep singing the praises of everyone at this conference speakers attendees and all of that yeah you know even the hotel staff even the hotel staff were high quality and really impressive and really impressed by us.

Yeah, well, it does feel weird to pat ourselves on the back so much, but this is what people have said at previous events, and that's what they said at this conference as well, and we get this more and more from more high-profile people every time one of these conferences is held, and the message is always exactly the same, that none of the standard sort of Republican oriented or GOP conferences or anything like that. Do you ever get anywhere near this amount of talent and drive and social capital in one room together? So I guess I only have to take them at that word.

From what people are saying, it seems like we are basically the future of the serious right. So that's a huge responsibility in addition to being, You know, I'm not really sure whether to be, you know, happy about that or terrified. No, yeah. And that's, and I kind of, you know, you said something similar on the space last night is it's like, I think you said something of, you know, there's only a couple of out. I'm not going to repeat them verbatim, but like there's only a couple of outcomes that, you know, that comes to a group of men like this. Can we not repeat them?

I don't know. Is that like, is that a Fed posting? I don't know. Well, I mean, the thing is, is I don't know if I want to get that serious because I recognize the truth of it. But, you know, but because I recognize the truth of it, I'm a bit wary as to as to speaking it into existence because it's like, because, well, I mean, shoot, I'll say it. You know, you said last night, you said that, what was it, that the only three outcomes we're going to get is, is death, prisoner, total victory. or exile. Yeah, or exile. Yeah, death exile or total victory. That's what you said.

Yeah, I was thinking about this on the drive home. I mean, if you look at previous revolutions, if we take the enemy at its word, basically, I think, and we look at what's happened to people who have seriously opposed the ruling elite as we are doing, you know, just straightforwardly, there's not very many there's only one good outcome

and that's total victory and all the other ones are you know gulag death or exile so it's just something to take seriously you know when your enemies are when your enemy's

own civilization is in the process of dying that's when they're at their most dangerous so you know we all just have to be careful we all have to be careful and we all have to keep doing what we have been doing i mean one of the things i've really liked that's kind of come out recently is this title for us where we've started being called the serious right um and that's more so a a description rather than an actual like name for us like you know like like it's it's kind of the refutation of the dissident right it's like no we're not

dissidents anymore we're serious and i mean if if you really are going to like take up the mantle of these pretensions, you know, take up the symbols of a currently dead America that we're trying to breathe new life into. You know, if you really are going to do that, you better be ready for, like, the challenges that that's going to bring. Yeah, and I think, you know, I think my favorite speech at the event was last things for sure, and that was pretty common to a lot of people. And, you know, what makes a group like us dangerous is actually those ideas, right? It's not, it's that we can see the system for what it really is

and what its mechanisms of control are and that's much more threatening to the regime than you know what you see done in a lot of other cases you know with like physical violence or whatever right that's not actually like you know Ted Kaczynski

for example like what he did is not threatening to the region obviously it's threatening to individuals it's threatening to individuals that's not what we do but what we do is we do is we comprehend as best we can the the system of control we live under and simply comprehending it and bringing other people to comprehend it you know i guess in some sense literally red-pilling people as tired of that viz that's what's actually so important about what we're doing No, that's absolutely true.

And, you know, I hope that, you know, God gives us the strength to continue on. And God keeps sending wonderful, wonderful young men and older men that he's been sending. And that's, you know, that we're at the conference. Yeah, I know, I know, what is it? What is it? Mr. NewsFist whose tweets were just on the screen. I wanted to give a huge shout out to him. It was a pleasure meeting him and talking to him very specifically that, you know,

he came all the way out from a whole different country. to come and see us and he really did feel like that it was it was one of the most rewarding experiences of his life and he's an older gentleman so that that really does mean a lot yeah his tweets are right back there up on the screen so i just wanted to wanted to thank him very much but yeah gentlemen you know let's let's let's get into the speeches a little bit um if any of you had any opinions on some particular speeches all right i'll pop in first i guess um my favorite speech are we doing it by order or just who's got the favorite speech there no no like you you you you You can talk about your favorite speech or one that you liked or anything like that. My favorite one was the complete opposite of Last Things theory or like what the why is. It was the how to of Peter. I'm going to butcher his last name.

Peter Sezare. It was literally like how do we build islands of salt sovereignty throughout our nation where we can completely control and associate with who we want to associate with and have intentional communities. And he basically gave us the step by step how to build this with the legal structure of LLCs under an umbrella of a private membership association. And yeah, it was super interesting. I wish I was not a brainlit so I could execute that myself. Yeah, I found that particularly fascinating because he was up there showing us things that

he has done. these communities that he had structured that most of us had been had taken as a thing of the past this idea that you could control who was in your community, this freedom of association. This man going up there and telling us, not only is it possible, but I have done it multiple times now,

that was, I think that was one of the best selling points throughout the entire conference for someone's professionalism or results. that guy Peter Siri had probably the biggest white pill that most people could have overlooked pretty easily Pst, did you know those Black Friday deals everyone's talking about

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basically talking about the battle ahead and talking about a previous battle. I thought that was great. I thought it was, I've heard Radlib speak numerous times, not in a speech like that, but that was probably the most inspiring. thing I've ever heard him done. And I thought it was rather inspiring. And I thought it was the perfect way to start off the conference. No, absolutely. And about Mr. Radlib's speech, particularly that stood out to me was when he was talking about the Battle of St. Louis, which all of you can look up. I'd recommend looking it up if you weren't at the conference because it was actually really interesting. And it was one of the most vital battles that you never really hear of. The battle

of St. Louis only had like what was it was like it was like it was a couple of thousand British allied natives and only a couple of hundred of like Spanish French and like you know like border Anglo settlers

in this in this little in this what was it this perimeter that they established in the at the time the village of St. Louis and you know the fact that Mr. Radliffe, he kind of made this poetic point

is it's like the most some of the most was it he's like there are battles that you know hundreds of thousands of men fight in and have tens of thousands of casualties that mean nothing. You know, take the Psalm Erver Dundon. The only reason we remember them is just because

of how many men died for nothing. They weren't decisive battles in any way. You know, they're synonymous with just an absolute waste. But there are battles that only happened with hundreds of men and like less than you know you know a couple dozen or so casualties that decide the fate of entire continents and like I said we had we had only like you know was it we had 140 I don't want to say only like a company sized element but we had like 140 guys

at that conference and I personally think that this 140 guys and all of their friends and all of the people listening whether you were at the conference or not all of of the previous attendees of previous conferences, all of the creators who weren't able to come, all the people who had to cancel at the last minute, all of the people who wanted to come but couldn't find a way, all of you are going to change the world. All of you are going to change the world. We are going to do something. What that something is, only God and his providence has to reveal to us, but we are going to definitely do something.

on that note um before we kind of i guess i guess we can move on into like um you know is it any of you gentlemen i know i've been talking for a lot for a while but if any of you gentlemen have something that you would like to like particularly talk about what can go into that but first i think we should start going through some of these super chats because we got we got quite a few of them we got a lot of this is uh this is pretty cool yeah no i'm absolutely and a lot of these guys are like guys who just attended the event and I'm I'm you know really blown away by your all's generosity so the first one from Mr. J. Ford for 75 US dollars is is just the word sneed thank you very much Mr. J. Ford God bless you. The next one is where these were these

the same one or were these two separate one next one is for 10 cents from poor peasant just saying LFG. I don't curse, so someone else can say that. But thank you. Let's freaking go. Yeah. That's $10. Oh, shoot.

Yeah, sorry. This was actually for $10 from Mr. Poor Peasant. My bad. I doubled down on a mistake, and that's my fault. So I apologize for that. But thank you very much, Mr. Poor Peasant. We really appreciate your generosity for 10. dollars. Next from Mr. Adam Keeney for 75 US dollars. He said, wow, I didn't know that. I just,

you're telling me now for the first time, we're back. We are back, Mr. Keeney. We are absolutely back. Thank you very much for your generous donation. I really appreciate it. We all at the Old Glory Club really appreciate it. Next up for Mr. Cody Bassett, who's sent in a few, I think. first one for $20 and $24. He says shout out to Harvey Wallbanger and the Virginia boys for hosting me overnight on my road trip to the event. I could not have had better hosts.

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We got to get a hold of them. Yeah, we absolutely do. We have to teach them a lesson like we did at, oh, wait, never mind. But I was about to say it at Gettysburg, but then I realized, oh, wait a minute. But Mr. Cody Bassett sent for $5, you see, I'm even handed. I can make fun of Southerners too. He says, for $5, it also cannot be understated how far we have come. As internet anon's, shoot, I scrolled down, as internet anon's afraid to meet each other

to welcoming full, happy families at the event, superb, I'm in complete agreement. That's another thing. You know, a couple of attendees brought their families, like wives, kids, everything. They weren't like at the event, but like they were in the hotel. They were nearby and, you know, a lot of us got to see them. Yeah, that's probably the best indication of our, or perhaps. the best indication of how wrong a lot of our critics are, something that always gets thrown at right-wingers in particular is that they're antisocial. They can't get women, they can't form

families and all this other stuff, especially Anon's. The Anon was perhaps the most reviled and maligned person in the last few years. And that's also been proven completely wrong by this conference. No, you're completely correct. I mean, we've had a baby boom. Lots of guys are having babies in our side. Yeah, it seems like more and more people at these conferences are married each year. So that's really nice to see a surprising number of people actually, maybe even as high as 50% are actually at least married, if not also have children. Absolutely. Well, and like I said, these are more than a few of these people who are at these events are conventionally successful people. They are like people who have really well-paying

upper middle class jobs. They have a lot to lose by being associated with us and they don't care. They come anyway. Yeah, they're not stupid about it, but like, they know for a fact that their country needs, frankly, their country needs us and their country needs them. And that's why they're putting themselves forward. Well, the level of, you know, the speakers to, like Peter and everything, he's been able to accomplish a former chief of staff for a sitting congressman, you know, academics who've been purged and who are now doing it on their own. I mean people who did not go they missed out they missed out on information that thankfully we were there for. No absolutely. I came up with this once. I think it was either on a

Twitter space or in a group chat or something like that, but I started calling us the Patriot deep state. And really, if you look at the quality of people that we have, I can't think of a better word for it. Like, we are, we are ready to put ourselves forward. There's a Cormac McCarthy quote from Sutry. And I'm going to go back to reading Super Chats after this, but there's a Cormac McCarthy quote from Sutry when he says, and then when character's father's writing a letter to him, and he says, the men who run the world are the ones willing to take responsibility for the running of it

and that's you know in with calling us the serious right that's something i'm absolutely seeing here um who's next uh no sorry mr charley do you have something to say on that yes uh well something about these events as well especially if you uh come repeatedly is uh well at this at this event now right we had two of our chapters there, the Virginia New England, and also some other chapters that were still in formation and mostly completed. And we have a few coming up now as well. In fact, just today we received two new application forms for some of those as well. And oh yes, actually, we have three chapters there. I'm leaving out the Auburn one.

So you have the leadership and some of the members of those chapters present. And this is actually the formation of an organized minority, an elite, if you will. And by coming to these events, you're basically taking part in the actual process that's going to move us forward for the next year. So that's really one of the important things, because it's one thing to be involved by being on the occasional live stream, sending super chats, you know, posts you on Twitter or whatever. and it's an entire other thing to actually be involved in the real process of organizing. Well, absolutely. I'm going to put a real quick stop to Super Chats real quick. I promise we'll get back to them at a later point.

But I would like to introduce one of the other speakers that we had at the event and one of the most resoundingly praised speakers of the events. Mr. Last Things, thank you very much for joining us. How are you doing this evening, sir? How's it going, Kings? Happy to be here. How's everybody doing? Doing well.

We are so back. We are. And really, thank you for taking the time out of your evening to show up. I'm going to be honest with you. Your talk was the most interesting talk of the event period. It was like, like, all of us were on the edge of our seats, just waiting to see where you were going to go with. it. And we're really, we're really sad. It got kind of, it ended up kind of getting cut short. And we hope,

we hope that you, you re-release it in a different sort of format. So we could, we could see the whole complete kind of idea. Yeah. No, well, I mean, first of all, I, I appreciate it. I'm glad that people got, got something out of it. I, I swear I did. I timed myself when I was at home, but I think there's just, there's something additional to just being on, on stage where it's a different cadence. But I have talked to I talked to Kelly and Chad and the plan is to publish it

the speech and the slides I think on the OGC substack so I'm just going to probably spend tomorrow editing it a little bit because I have like a few notes in there about you know remember to crack this joke that wouldn't really flow well in a

substack piece but But hopefully that could work. And yeah, I don't know if there's a way to get it out in like an audio format too. You guys let me know. But I definitely want people to experience the totality of the talk. Well, real quick on that, if you know, I know you want to write an article, but if you would be willing to record like, I know it would be different in a long form video. But if you, I mean, shoot, if you be willing to record you are doing a long form video,

would be absolutely happy to publish it anywhere and everywhere that we could. Cool. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm totally open to that. So we'll figure it out. We'll definitely get it out there. Yeah, many people are looking forward to see the conclusions that you draw that perhaps the quintessential disciplinary and timekeeping of the conference prevented us from hearing. Yeah. Yeah, it did, didn't it? I just keep the time. What can I say? It's okay, Ryan. I made the speeches run on time. It occurred to me afterwards.

I could have just said, like, you know, anybody that wants to go to lunch can go to lunch. But, Ryan, if it's okay with you, if anybody's captivated, I could give the last 15 minutes of it. The one thing I'm self-conscious about is that, you know, I'm talking about fight club. And I didn't quite get to the point where, you know, I explained to people that forming fight clubs

or forming project mayhem is not the answer. And so now I'm plagued by this idea that people just, you know, went home and started like basement fight clubs or just decided to like vandalize corporate art and, you know, dress like Antifa and stuff like that. It's not 2017 anymore, Mr. Last Things. Yeah. What was the title of your talk, Mr. Last Things? The title was rather provocative.

It was called Becoming the Nomad War Machine. So it's about some ideas of Gilles de Luz, the French post-structuralist. Primarily, he's got these two ideas of the control society and the Nomad War Machine. I mean, his concepts and his titles are always very, like, kind of catchy and interesting. I was very happy. His concept is something that I think has a lot of utility for our guys. I was very happy that I had read DeLuze and I had actually read Justin Murphy's book and actually interviewed him about the book because I think a lot of that would have just went right over my head. I thought you did a really good job though.

Yeah, no. And Justin Murphy is, he's great. His book, Base DeLose was a big, big influence. I actually took his DeLos class a few years ago where I started generating a lot of these ideas. So he's, if anybody's interested of where to start with DeLuz, I can think of no better recommendation than Justin Murphy based DeLuz. That's interesting that you read that too, Pete. On the many days of Christmas, the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee, a visit filled with

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I don't know if he's, is he still running that? I know he successfully got at least one couple married, but I'm not sure where that. It's been three years. I'm not really sure. What happens in three years? He always has just like a dozen projects going. He's just this ideas person. But yeah, very, very interesting guy.

Absolutely. And the thing I liked is that, you know, I've been big into Dr. Nick Land recently, not so much his earlier work, but primarily, you know, having a semi-literary background. his recent work on the canon wars and um um and um other you know as literary canon as a sort of common cultural coding of a people and that and that the corruption of that canon is what uh functionally you know makes that people cease to exist and then the open spiral and and and all these other stuff and and you know and i was really pleased to found out that um uh nick land's primary intellectual predecessor was you know actually not a french pedophile and all that he did was was take this this you know relatively in his personal life mild-mannered french

man's ideas and then just add meth to it yeah you know i mean land has i don't get me wrong i think like deluz his his his um DNA is is in land big time another thinker that i think phrasing phrasing phrasing yeah yeah another another person that that's pretty influential with him. Somebody else that Justin Murphy talks about a great deal is George Bataille, who's, you know, yet another French intellectual. I find Bataille to be a bit more of a bit more kind of a, I think Land gets his pessimism and kind of nihilism.

Like that, I don't know if you guys know, thirst for annihilation. That's one of Lans. I think it's it's a it's a book, but it's on his book on batai. So that's that's somebody that I would have a harder time, um, rehabilitating for for for for dissidents. A pessimistic British intellectual nihilist. Never. Not one.

No, but, but no, it was, it was, it was really excellent stuff and, you know, I, I,

I could tell that you were going somewhere with it. And I kind of, you know, saw the, through the quick slides, I kind of, I got it, kind of peek at where your where your culmination was going to be.

But one of the things, one of the last things that you said, you talked about specifically, I don't remember the exact wording because I'm not familiar with these thinkers, but like, what is it, like breakout somethings like, uh, uh, lines of flight lines of flight. Yeah, specifically. And when you talked about how the majority of lines of flight are doomed to failure, because it's, it's, it's just, it's like a, you know, a system of control. it actually in many ways it's it's why white hat hackers are employed it's kind of like if i'm not a computer guy and i know the computer guys are going to kill me um for for talking about it but like you know

the same reason why white hat hackers are employed is the same reason why a line of flight kind of exposes a a weak point in the society of control and that's why the majority and since no one really knows or has the resources to capitalize on a line of flight you know 90% of the time 80% of the time, I'm just throwing a number out. They're doomed to failure except for in one case. And I really wish you were there to hear my speech because it would have been, it would have been perfectly in line. And as a matter of fact, you were scheduled to go right before me and it would have perfectly set me up. But specifically when you experience love, that is the only time that a line of flight is not necessarily doomed to failure.

And then you had to wrap it up pretty quickly after that. But that I think was one of the things that stuck out to me is in that circumstance, that's when you have something real. Yeah, yeah. I think that is definitely definitely something that DeLos and Guattari talk about a great deal, which is kind of surprising for kind of. of thinkers that most people consider to be kind of unsentimental and very, very kind of coldly analytical. But I mean, I was going to tie that into, I mean, the example of the failed

line of flight in the film Fight Club is, and it's just as you said, it's sort of, you know, initially it is this kind of eureka moment. It could be an artistic idea. It could be a business idea. It could be a marriage, a relationship. It could be, you know, starting old glory club. But it's something that is something that appears to transcend instrumentality and is not kind of encoded within the sort of control society matrix. It seems like an idea that exists outside of the everydayness of a control society. But within fight club, the real tragedy is Project Mayhem becomes that failed line of flight. You can sort of, you know, Tyler is sort of the, you know, this ego ideal that gets to build, build the empire, kind of

create this, this cult. And then the narrator, who is the, you know, who actually has this subjectivity is the one that has to sort of experience it as it gets sort of re-territorialized and overcoated. and you know the men of Project Mayhem really are not it's one of the tragedies of the movie is that they turn out not to be these individuals that are really seeking liberation or freedom or emancipation in the way that Edward Norton is they just sort of become his slaves and they seem to want to be his slaves like I know don't get me wrong guys like I've read I've read Paul Gottfried like I understand that like to call something fashy is is is is is completely and utterly trite but but there is a certain kind of um fascistic nature to the men of project mayhem and the fact that tile that that you know durden slash norton whatever we want to call him the narrator he does not really have a lot of love for these men you know he's not drawn or motivated to project mayhem through um through through love. So that's why it becomes a kind of a doomed enterprise. And, you know, I borrow a concept that

Josh Neal, the man that wrote a great book, Imperium Press, American extremist, deploys, to kind of articulate what Liz is getting at here with failed lines of flight. In American extremist, he sets up this dichotomy between the radical and the extremist and the extremist, the, the ultimate example of a failed line of flight is is Ted Kaczynski. You know, he's somebody who had a, you know, really killer critique of, you know, the technological society and liberalism. But the way that he's been kind of coded into the system, given his crimes, is just, you know, you're an evil lunatic if you find anything that he had to say particularly compelling. So an extremist is somebody who fails in their line of flight and fails it in a way that actually bolsters and strengthens

the control society. Whereas a radical is somebody who really does sort of achieve escape velocity. You know, they leave the gravity of the control society. And that is something that the narrator eventually achieves, I think, within the context of the film Fight Club. And it's something that I think we all need to keep in mind. That's what I was kind of trying to get to is make sure that you are motivated by love. Make sure that nothing that you're doing is going to get sort of re-territorialized and recodified the way that, in a way that happens to something like Project Mayhem in the film. I've been thinking about the various lines of flight.

I've been pursuing another identifying other lines of flight in general since your talk and one of them that I find interesting is people who get really really into mountaineering

you know that might seem like an escape from the system of control because you're going on these allegedly uncharted paths right and this is almost akin to the highway system you talked about but I'm sure you're familiar with the the sort of traffic jam on Mount Everest especially right now, where if you climb Mount Everest now, it's mostly just for middle class people paying tens of thousand dollars to wait and line

for hours and slowly queue up the summit of Mount Everest, which I think is one of those things that, you know, it might sound like a line of flight when you consider the concept in a vacuum. but in context is just another codified part of the system of control now i did i did not know that charles but that's incredibly depressing well the good news is there's lots of other mountains to climb and um yeah there aren't giant queues all the way up to the summit on those on those mountains yeah i forget if i i got this far in my talk but there is that um you know the scene where i think sort of begins the line of flight in the film fight club is when they cause that car crash. They sort of, you know, they exit the freeway quite literally.

I don't think it's a freeway in the movie, but a road regardless. It's got some, you know, some resonance there. But if you guys recall, you know, there are those two members of Project Mayhem in the back seat. And Durdon says to them, like, you know, what would you guys want to have done with your life if you die today. And, you know, one says, build a house. The other says, paint a self-portrait. And, you know, maybe those seem kind of, kind of cheesy and kind of on the nose.

But I do that. I mean, it's something that I think magnifies the tragedy of Project Mayhem in the film is because those were probably honest to God lines of flight for both of those men, which they failed to pursue. And I think those are, you know, like ones describing. an artistic project, an artistic, you know, a self-portrait is not really something that, you know, a control society is going to have much interest in sort of reclaiming or recoding or re-territorializing, something like, and again, I realize this kind of stuff

sounds kind of kitchy and sappy, but I think that's, um, one, one should be a, should push through that. I mean, I think the idea of building your own house, like this is something that like Yvonne Illich writes about a great deal, that there actually is something quite liberating about being able to have that level of sort of self-reliance or resourcefulness to erect a house, to build your home outside of the control society. And it's just unfortunate that they sort of continue in this path of sort of, you know, a new flavor of slavery that they're just trying to be the slaves of Tyler Durdon as opposed to noticing these, their own kind of emancipatory epiphanies in the film.

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I was thinking about this as well because you know, I'll be building my own house eventually, but I'm also building, working on a road right now, and this is a clear line of flight because it's a new road that doesn't exist, and it's exactly the path I'm choosing for it. There's no predetermined path to be to follow by the Society of Patrol. So I think your talk is the one that I've been thinking about the most in identifying which things I'm doing are failed lines of flight, which things are actually going to help me achieve, as you put it, escape velocities to the plane of image. I'll say too, you know, I think there was Peter Sear. I hope I'm saying his last name properly, but Peter, the man who spoke on Saturday, I'm fascinated by his project. And that to

me seems like an absolute line of flight. Yours does as well, Charles. But I actually emailed him today just because I didn't wind up running into him. I was trying to track him down after his talk. but I think that his projects it sounds a really really well thought out he's clearly been trying to figure out the most foolproof way to to build these communities and clearly something he's he's very passionate about as well so so yeah I mean I think I think old glory clubs a line of flight I think you guys had some speakers there that are that are on on lines of flight so yeah keep keep it up well before we uh dump your whole talk it's probably time to get back to the super chats yeah yeah yeah we have we have a lot of them we have a lot of them um i can't i was actually gonna make a joke there but i think i'm gonna decide against that um next up is mr paul lunsford for $19 and 99 he says never understood the conference high concept until this event i've been writing a wave of motivation for the past few days. So much to be done, so much to be built. Thanks so

much for all of your effort. And thank you for your generosity and your attendance, Mr. Lunsford. We really, we really are grateful that you were able to come and that you're able to give us this donation. I promise you we're going to be using it towards putting on more things like the OGC conference. All of you super chatters, all of your money. You can now, those of you who went to the event, you all can see that your money is going towards something that's real. We're not just using it to freaking, you know, get high and throw parties with a bunch of cocaine and stuff like that. I don't think that's a line of flight, actually. I think that's exactly what the control society wants us to be doing.

I don't want to freaking make your talk. I don't want to dumb down your talk and give it to, but at the same time, you know, I don't know. Next up, Nicholas Sorokin for $10 U.S. dollars. He says the event was a pleasure as always. It was great seeing anyone. I'd assume he meant everyone again. I hope to see you all next year with a chapter of our own. And we hope to see you next year, Mr. Sauriken.

It was a pleasure speaking to you. I always have fun seeing you. And we're really glad that you guys and you especially were able to make it. Next up is Mr. Klinging Mars for three U.S. dollars. He says, hail the futureing conquer. Oh, shoot, it scrolls down. He says, hail the future conquering heroes of America. I've, I have dyslexia a little bit.

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And I wanted to get to a weave first before doing so. Also, I look forward to seeing the highlights from the conference. Well, thank you, Mr. Sam B. for your donation excuse me for your donation we're really appreciative of you um i don't know what the weaving scene is like in uh illinois but if you uh if you reach out maybe we might be able if you're anywhere near chicago we might be able to get you in contact with someone there um but as far as downstate illinois i don't know if you're outside of chicago but thank you again very much for your donation and um i hope you had fun at the trolley museum um next up cheap slinging beef

for $5. He says, he says, sad, I couldn't make it guys, had a house of sick people. I blame Pete for not getting his booster and masking at the meet up in Nashville. Glad for you all.

Pete, is that true? Were you, were you, were you, did you not get your booster and you turned the meetup at Nashville into a super spreader event? Oh yeah,

I was typhoid Mary at that bitch. Yeah, it was great. Well, dang, Pete. You know, with friends like, you shoot uh but yeah thank you very much mr chief slinging beef i hope your house has gotten better um personally pete didn't get me sick but i might just be built different a lot of other people a lot of other people chief slinging beef is growing around we just we we went to the confederate museum up there and saw

nathan bedford forest grave and everything that together so that was really cool is that where they moved it to yeah it's in it's in uh Columbia Columbia Tennessee yeah Okay. Yeah, that was one of those things that really, really boiled my blood when they did it. You know, same thing with the, with the AP Hill statue. But thank you very much, Chief Sling and Beef. I appreciate it. Paladin Y, Y, Y, Z, who I met in person this weekend, and he is a totally different dude than you would think he is. For $150, you are our top guy. You are our strongest soldier. God bless you, Paladin, Y, Y, Z, but not just because you give a $150.000.

us a lot of money. God bless you for giving us your time and your patronage and your dedication. He says, our not even elected president is openly violating the Logan Act. The Department of Justice is, shoot, it keeps going down. The Department of Justice is suing Texas for enforcing federal law, and Trump's new cabinet members are actively gearing up for Iran in white papers written in Hebrew. Thoughts, question mark? I mean, shoot, what do you all think? sounds like a collapse of of empire stuff really yeah i always wonder if we're

you know if if if we're going to use the trite rome comparison if we're in the fall of the republic or the attila's at the gate stage of american history i i i i some days some days i think it's one some days i think it's the other um yeah considering how screwed we are it could be both it's possible i mean

i want to maintain hope though, especially after this event. Yeah, you know, it's like if our guys got in. I mean, I believe in us. I don't believe in the empire. Absolutely. I mean, it's like, was it, um, somewhat this was set on my Twitter space last night as well. And I forget who said it. Um, but someone said it was like, would you rather have a healthy functioning parallel economy that was like totally independent? Or would you rather have our guys in office?

And just about everyone who's serious when asked that question would always tell you the latter. Because if you have the ladder, you don't need the parallel economy because you have the economy. But anyway, that's a long way off. But it's like, you know, it's a good goal to shoot for. Well, Mr. Paladin, Y, Y, Z, let's just hope that the whatever the future holds for us, that you know it's not it's not just you know it's not like nuclear holocaust and Armageddon or or alternatively even if it's not that it's not you know 30,000 dead you know white American boys in the mountains of Iran because that's absolutely what it would turn into like like I don't I mean you know he I want to focus on this a little bit because you know partially because of the amount he gave us but also partially because like this is something we could we could really run with. is it's like Iran is not an easy country to conquer. It is not an easy country to conquer.

It is like chain after chain after chain of mountain ranges. And it's like if you thought Afghanistan was bad, Afghanistan didn't have the geographical self-sufficiency to like have any sort of modern nation state to resist us with. But Iran does. So imagine the terrain of an Afghanistan with Saddam-like capabilities. And it's... Go ahead. Neocon warfare doesn't seem to even be able to maintain a country that's easy to invade, like, the flatlands of Iraq.

Absolutely. No, absolutely. That's completely correct. And, you know, and we wouldn't even have, like, neocon competency. Anyway, it's a little bit of a... It scares me a little bit, but my sincere hope is that Trump keeps his anti-war platform, and we have just a four years of rebuilding after Biden. After Trump, come what may.

But that's what we got to hope for right now. Anyway, let's move on. I know we got a lot more super chat. So if you guys want to stop and start talking about something else, something in regards to the conference, please stop me at any point. I'm sure they're just going to keep rolling in. But Mr. Nick S for $5. Thank you very much, Mr. Nick. We really appreciate you. He said, just requested an application to form a local chapter. Let's go. Well, thank you very much, Mr. Nick. I actually think I just saw that pop up on the OGC email. And we've been waiting for

this for a while and we're really glad that you were able to get stuff together and send it in. God bless you. And we will review it shortly. And if any of you, you in the audience, by the way, those of you who went to the event or those of you who haven't, get in contact with us if you have five guys in your local area and you want to form a chapter, it doesn't have to be a state chapter. It could be like a single city chapter or a single county chapter, a single geographical area chapter. As long as you got five guys and you're able to meet like regularly and incorporate an organization and you're willing to go forward and go into the next step get in contact with us and we will help you out um it doesn't even have to be a

geographical area yeah shoot if you if you got a telegram group chat of five guys across the country and you want to you want to have a chapter and you're just willing to meet via telegram and you're able to incorporate somewhere that's absolutely fine um you just have to be productive that's the caveat yeah i mean like our and that would be like a deviation and not the norm that would be like an exception, but we're willing to something like that if you all are willing to put the work in. But like our hope generally is to have geographically based chapters. But if you've got a friend group and you want to go forward with that, please feel free, especially now.

But regardless, thank you very much, Mr. Nick S. Great things are currently happening. Next up is EH for 45 US dollars. Thank you very much. He says, I'm sorry that I missed the conference. Is there an OGC satellite near me? Pete Q knows my coordinates. be contacted privately.

Mr. Pete, you got anything on that? I don't know if we do or not. We'll handle that in the background. That we will. Thank you very much for your generosity, Mr. E.H. God bless you, and I hope you have a very good evening. Shoot, who's next? Paladin Y, Y, Y, Z, again for another $50.

The conference was amazing, still buzzing from it. I kind of went amateur crazy on the conversations with the brothers. I acted like I would never speak to another conservative again, like an episode of premature e-glory clubification. But, I mean, to be honest, like, there are worse reactions you could have. Like, this is, like, the one time a year that, like, all this pent-up energy that you have gets kind of unleashed. I don't know if you gentlemen, like, understand what I'm saying with that. I mean, I know a lot of us are content creators, and we get a lot of that out generally.

But, like, for a lot of the anons who don't have, like, the group chats or aren't active as much, in them and maybe browse the timeline like they have all of this energy that gets pent up and this is the one time a year that it actually like unleashes that they actually get to like get to like reciprocation for it you know that makes sense to you all you know i i don't even think that like as a content creator i don't achieve any real like catharsis or the same kind of like relief that i do just being in the flesh with other guys who like i know i can crack a joke with and it's not going to like ruin my life. You know, I think it's a different, being able to just be,

be kind of relaxed and completely candid with people for three days is, I mean, it's rejuvenating, I think, on a different level, even to those of us who do get to sort of speak our minds online. At least it is for me. One of the speakers who was their personal friend of mine, I think we all knew who I'm talking about, said it was refreshing to go to be able to go to a conference and speak his mind and no no one's gonna look at him strange no absolutely I think that was a especially for for the for the

attendees who found themselves working more with that with mainstream conservative politics and whatever facet they were working with it they very much had similar reactions is it's like wow like I'm I'm not just like like like like whispering to my one or two buddies who kind of get it. It's like, wow, like this is a whole room of people from all walks of upper middle class and even like working class life that understand what I believe and don't think I'm crazy. And we can all kind of rally around this sort of flag and these sort of ideas.

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you. He said, regretful for my absence, but very excited to see how the thinking this year formulates into real advances throughout the year. Don't waste moments of consensus. You're absolutely right. And we're very sorry. You had a last minute cancellation. We're really, really, really, sorry. We're really, really sorry as well. Yeah. Yeah, he is. He is. He was going to, we were going to make you over. We were going to, like, force you kicking and screaming into polite waspy society. But regardless, we're very, very grateful for you. Thank you very much. And we really do hope that you have a good evening.

And you're enjoying the stream. What's interesting mentioning the habit Asher. I think before I even got a chance to talk to anyone, I went to his table and bought a tie from the 1940s. Yeah. A tie that he had there. And it was perfect because you could tell, because the knot was really,

real small perfectly if you watch any movies from the 40s same kind of stuff it was it was just wonderful just a perfect way to start off the event no that's absolutely true i mean and that's you know you know let's let's take a moment for that real i'm going to pause super chats real quick and we're going to pick them up in a in a minute or two but i want to i want to kind of take that because um charlemagne we were we were talking about that honor on the space that i had with you last night um which i think harvey you were you i don't know if you were there for this part but But what was it? We were talking about like the vendors that we had there, the guys who were, who brought

stuff that was worth buying. There was the Haberdasher, as previously mentioned. There was Mr. George Bagby who had his self-published books and also his used books from his own personal collection. And Mr. Bagg, both of those men have just absolutely excellent taste. Alron also brought some copies of his book, The Totally, total state that just sold out. They sold out. And Mr. Bagby sold, I think, quite a few of his self-published books and quite a few of his used books. And shoot, man, the Haberdasher was measuring

people all every time I was walking by. He was measuring someone. You know, I only hope that the conference was worth his while and that he did pretty well for himself. And if he's listening, we're really grateful that you were able to show up and to provide us for that. Because, you know, that's something that absolutely every young man in this in this scene needs is it's like one of the best articles i think ever published on the o gc substack was uh curtis is uh the metaphysics of dress and how how you dress and i've really internalized that and started changing how i dress but it's like how you dress how you present yourself to the world is in many ways how you see yourself um and that's i mean and that's something that we that the the haberdasher was very much able

to help correct in some of our guys and help improve in some of our guys well i All right. But yeah, like, no, I hope that we have them both back next year. I hope that a couple of other, I mean, I don't want to stretch the, I don't want to turn it into a, into a bizarre when it's a serious conference. But at the same time, you know, those of us, those of us with businesses who are founded and run by our guys, you know, I really do hope that I really do hope that you all are willing to make contact with us and come out. and possibly even we could have you at the event next year. But I don't want to promise anything, but it is something that we love to see and we love to support guys on our side of things

who have their own businesses. Do any of you guys have anything to say about the vendors that were there or anything like that? Or should I go back to Super Chats? I mean, the Habitather was just excellent. I was very happy to place an order with him. Yeah, no, absolutely. He really knew his stuff,

and he had some very, very high quality stuff to choose from. Excellent. All right. Poor peasant again for $50. He says, great to meet all in attendance. The merchant was taller than I'd thought. I guess that's you,

Mr. Turnip's seed. He says, as well as Mr. Fahrenheit, physiognomy checks passed. Charlie was the pretty boy I expected. Wallbanger, a fine lad.

Pete, I enjoyed speaking with you. God bless you all. Well, God bless you, Mr. Poor Peasant. Thank you very much for coming. I was, you know, shoot, I was, you know, I don't know. I mean, it was, it was an absolute pleasure speaking to you and everyone else there. And yeah, no, that's another thing.

Everyone at these conferences are like, there's like very few, like, genuinely outright ugly people here. Yeah, there's no Spurgs and everyone has an excellent physiognomy. That should say something. I don't want to say that there are. no Spurgs, but there are a negligible number. But yeah, no, absolutely. It was a very serious group of really conventionally attractive looking young guys. Thank you very much, Mr. Poor Peasant. Your generosity is, we are very...

I can only say we are very grateful so many times, but, like, really, we are. Like, I don't know where we would be without you guys, honestly. you super chatters, you event attendees, even you anon's, like we would be nowhere without you guys. Paladin Y Y YZ, again for $50, our strongest soldier. He says, here is a white pill for you. God wants to restore our nation to sanity in the same way you want your kids to succeed. We got to do the work, though. And shout out to Ryan.

The MC is often the Rodney Dangerfield of these events. Good job, man. No, yeah, no, that's absolutely true, Mr. Turnip Seed. You did an excellent job emceeing, transitioning things, keeping the time a little bit too exact for my tastes. But you did a very standout job, and you really did great. Well, thank you very much. And once again, I will say it every time. The speeches will run on time.

It's true. And to Mr. Y, Y, Y, Z's point, I really do agree with you. I really hope, I really do think that God wants America to go back to like a semblance of like what it was founded to be. Like, you know, a country for run by a people, a very specific group of people for a very specific group of people and not this like crazy monstrosity that it's been turned into over the centuries. I really, I really do believe that, you know, we're at least we're going to try to lend our hand to the restoration of something like that. And I hope all of you, all of you fellow speakers and everyone in the, and all of you guys up on the on the, on the live stream and all of you listeners, I hope you can agree with that.

Because if not, why are you here? Son of Hostor for $5. Thank you very much, sir. Can't listen live, but congratulations on a great conference. Thanks to everyone who made it happen. Well, thank you, Mr. Son of Hofster. I hope you catch this on the replay. Thank you very kindly for your generosity.

We are extremely grateful. Machiavelli sucks to go for $4.99. I have been seeing Bobby Fisher videos. He said some base things. Well, I, you know, Pete, isn't it funny that the dude with the best pattern recognition in, you know, recent history, kept pointing out a very certain group of people?

It's remarkable. It just is. It almost seems like pattern recognition causes you to be able, to, I don't know, see patterns? It's true. I guess the only problem is that talking about patterns has basically become criminal.

No, that's absolutely. That's literally the criminalization of IQ is what has occurred. We can only conclude that he must have been wrong with all of his acute ability to beat everyone in a game that relies solely on pattern recognition. We can only conclude that he was wrong when he applied it outside of this recreation.

No, that's absolutely true. What was it? I, I, it's, it's funny, it's funny, actually, I'm not going to say that quote. Um, because I don't know how to relate it. Um, and also Einstein said it. So I'd probably get hanged if I quoted Einstein on this stream. Um, Adam Dole, uh, for $15. He says, thank you very much, sir.

He says, loved the event that many interesting people. Is there an issue with sharing the story? It kind of reads like a telegram. Love the event. Stop. That many interesting people. Stop. Is there an issue with sharing the scripts of Charlies and Last Things talks?

Myself and a few others have access to them. Now I have to get back into Deleuze after I gave up on understanding him in 2022. Yeah. I picked up Heidegger one time and just put the book down. I couldn't follow it. Yeah, no. I mean, everybody really reads DeLuz at least at minimum twice in the first. first time you just put them down after 20 pages. So don't feel bad about that. I think I might,

Adam, I don't know if you're one of the, the dudes I talked to after my talk. I know I did wind up, wound up emailing a PDF of my talk to a couple of people. The only thing I'd say is I, I have no problem with people sharing it, but I want, I'm going to polish it up and hand it off to these guys. and you then at least won't be dealing with like my parenthetic notes to myself that it's time for the next slide and it might be a bit of a smoother read. But I don't have any issue, you know, proprietarily with people sharing it. But you're going to get a more polished product in like two days if you can hold on. Yeah, I'm also going to publish mine at some point in a more refined form as well, either on the OGE. blog or on my blog.

We haven't even discussed that yet, but I would like to do that. So I would say, you know, I don't care if you, you know, share the script with people. It would be nice if you didn't, like, type it up or take pictures of it because it'll just be a worst product than I intend to actually put out eventually. So I just echo last things, basically. No, absolutely. And as a matter of fact, now that we're on that topic, I said this to the, to you at this word that really i'm just rehashing all the points of my space last night but i want to

say it now that it's come up again charlotte i thought your speech was outstanding i really i really did um what is it yeah it you know what is it the the anglo-saxon tradition of jurisprudence is not in in reality the cause of all of our problems today i know i know it's it's crazy but it's true it's you know actually perhaps things were not you you know, did not go wrong with, with the tradition of trying to achieve a sense of, you know, I don't know, the words that you used were rule of law and accountability. Maybe in principle, those things aren't necessarily bad things with what they're trying to get at. And, you know, your speech on that, I really thought knocked it out of the park.

Thanks. I appreciate that a lot. I'm always worried about how these things will actually convey themselves when I say them out loud as opposed to just reading the script. But yeah, it's pretty weird. I mean, like, you think with the last couple years of, you know, online right-wing discourse, it's like if you think, you know, there's any possible way to hold your government accountable, it's like you must be some sort of deluded liberal idiot.

But, wow, you know, it turns out that actually the English actually have long traditions of jurisprudence that limit the government tyranny actually pretty well. no absolutely um and and the thing is is too is like there's this really good book that actually has to deal with it called the uh the ideological origins of the american revolution i think by bernard bayland i could be wrong um but it's one of the key works of of it's literally like the book is about what the title says the ideological origins of the american revolution and i don't see lock like locke has talked about a little bit but like he was

nowhere near like the guy. Like these founders were reading like obscure Anglican theologians from like the Civil War era. They were reading they were reading like like freaking judges. That's like because all these guys like people, people don't understand. They think that the founders of the United States were all these ideologues, these political actors. But in reality, it was a bunch of freaking lawyers.

It was a bunch of lawyers who did nothing but read law and judges and other things. And they just read all of these, like, English judges that, like, had all of these opinions on English law and going all the way back to, you know, even Elizabethan times. On the many days of Christmas, the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee, a visit filled with festivity. Experience a story of Ireland's most iconic beer in a stunning Christmas setting at the Guinness Storehouse.

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Book now at ginnestorehouse.com. Get the facts. Be Drinkaware. Visit drinkaware.a.e. Yeah, I actually, you know, I just did a stream with Pete on ideology, and I sort of gave some preamble to what my talk was about. And, yes, we have this bizarre idea that's been circling about for years that, like, the American founders just, they read John Locke, and then they were like, wow, we're Lip-Tarts now, but that's not at all what happens.

And actually, we project these highly ideological frames from these particular figures onto the past. And the past was not as ideologically driven as a lot of us are, not that there weren't any, but ideologues or ideologies, but to project the way we're thinking now onto the past is wrong and to just sort of skip over our entire history and just point the things.

finger at lock and, you know, his ideas as being like the source of all of our downfall baked into the Constitution. It's just very, dare I say it, anti-traditional. Yeah, no, that's absolutely true. And I mean, and you made the point that like, you know, it's it's kind of in vogue to bash the Constitution. And we all kind of understand that as a legal document, yes, the Constitution no longer functions as it was intended to because it pretty much just means anything to any lawyer who's able to twist it. But as a symbol, it's one of the few things, one of the few things that will still,

and I know we have to work with the world that we're in right now, right? As a symbol, the constitution is one of, like, and protecting the constitution is one of the only things that will mobilize our side of politics. We saw this in 2020. Like, for example, when, when Texas, versus Pennsylvania, right, that Supreme Court case that was rejected because it had lack of standing. When 13 states signed onto that of, hey, something weird happened in this election and maybe we should look at it,

that's basically, you know, like that's almost half the country. All right. That's like 25% of the country. But still, that's 13 separate state. And the Supreme Court just totally dismissed it because, oh, you have no standing. One state can't challenge it. other states election in court, which was the biggest cop out of all time. Maybe according to the letter of the law, that is true.

But when 13 states want something looked into and you just basically handwave those away, that is an absolute failure of the legal system. And everyone thought and believed that it was spiritually unconstitutional. And that's why I think, you know, Million MAGA and what happened after, Got so many people to come to DC Anyway, sorry I kind of got carried away with that a little bit Looks like Ryan has to leave us

Yeah, thank you very much for joining us mr. turnip seed We're very grateful for that and I hope you all have a you all enjoyed him on the stream and I hope you have a very good night Mr. Turnip seed But he's already around All right, let's let's keep going what was it? Dan the Diperman, aka Chris Crinkle for $1.99. Thank you very much.

He said, I was told not to come for obvious reasons. That's hilarious. Well, thank you, thank you for your generosity nonetheless, Mr. Dan the Diperman, also known as Chris Crinkle. We were very grateful.

Bolero, 393 for $5. Great to meet you guys. in Tennessee. Excellent physiognomy at the conference. Very inspired to continue the momentum and get a chapter up and running. Absolutely. We're really hopeful that this happens as well. And thank you, thank you very much for coming, Mr. Bolero. He also sent another one for, oh sorry, go ahead, Mr. Charlie. Oh, yeah. We've got a lot of interest in Tennessee. Some people have emailed us. People at the event were asking. So there's a lot going on in Tennessee. So if you, if you're not involved in getting that organized you know please send us an email and we'll get you

in touch with everything going on there because it looks like we're going to have a chapter forming in a Tennessee soon enough if things go well no absolutely looks like we're going to have some some heavy hitters in that chapter too oh yeah no yeah there's there's a lot of high level interest in what we're doing and you know and we're only going to go up from here yeah especially in Tennessee. Yeah, it's actually starting to get hard to keep track of who's doing what where, which is a good thing. Yeah, it's like, it's like, what is it? It's like, um, it's like when England would invade, would invade, uh, Scotland and all the Highlanders would just come down and like the King had no idea how many Highlanders were gonna, we're gonna come down at any time.

And sometimes it was like, it was like half the English army that would come down from those mountains. Yeah, really, really helps at the conference to actually, uh, meet in person, the, um, you know, especially the leadership of the chapter so I can put faces to it because, you know, obviously, I don't know personally, everyone in all the chapters, right? The chapters form out of connections to our group, but it's usually someone different in the group who makes the initial connection. So yeah, but this is very good. We're growing very quickly. I'm glad to see all this interest. No, absolutely. And, you know, that's actually how Tennessee got its nickname the volunteer state.

There was some general, his name I forget, and he was trying, he was going out to the mountains to recruit people, and it wasn't a surveyed region, they didn't have any census data there. He was going out to recruit some people

that were theoretically within the borders of the United States to go and fight, and I think it was the Black Hawk War. And he went to Tennessee expecting and get maybe like 200 and something, and I think it was something like 12,000 showed up to fight.

And that's how Tennessee got its nickname, the Volunteer State. Anyway, and the same people who were from Scotland settled in Tennessee. Bolero 393 had a follow-up super chat for $2, and he said, a network of fives. Well, Mr. Bolero, thank you for your generosity, but I would give us a little bit more credit than that. I'd give us a little bit more credit than being five out of tens. But thank you nonetheless. And thank you for your previous super chat. We really appreciate you.

Mr. Seasider for $10 sends us a salute. I salute you back. Thank you very much. Mr. Seasider, you didn't see me, but I just did it. Thank you very much. Next up, Mr. Helmholtz-Watson for 20. He says, hello, as someone who is like-minded, can you tell me the benefit and point of creating an OGC chapter in my area, aside from the obvious, which would be to find friends and have a social club? Is there more to it? Thanks all. Anyone got anything on that? Actually, matter of fact, Mr. Harvey, why don't you take that one? All right. Yeah. So this is a common question we get. I have a based group of friends and we don't see the need to formalize what we're doing.

Well, what the OGC framework lets you to do, it lets you be an official organization so you can associate with wider civil society in a way that you cannot achieve as a regular group of individuals. Of course, there's always the risk involved with organizing, and this risk can be somewhat mitigated by the inherent nature of our fraternal organization. we organize under the 501 C10 classification, which means you have complete freedom of association regarding who can join your chapter. And since each chapter is its own legal entity

distinct from one another and the OGC National Committee, one chapter's problem does not become everybody's problem. In addition to that, building these bonds into formalized relationships can help you just build this social infrastructure that I feel like is sorely needed in our side of things. I wish I had a continuation from like, I guess, Boy Scouts from when I was a teenager. Why is there no thing I can join like that as an adult? Why don't we just continue that on forward? And now, well, Boy Scouts is going to be needed

to start over from scratch, I guess. I don't know if you heard the news. That's an aside. But if your chapter performs well, it garners the interest of potential investors and will begin the formation of what we call a patronage network, where patrons who share our values can invest serious capital and resources into us.

And that allows us in turn to really get our work done and protect our history and heritage. And honestly, every chapter can have its own goals that they want to achieve. I know I was talking about Peter's speech earlier. It's definitely something my guys have talked about doing is getting a plot of land together and building a homestead. That would be awesome. In addition, we host, you know, gatherings and banquets and such to raise awareness of our things and, you know, just all around having a good time.

So I think it's just a little more of a serious endeavor than meeting up with their racist friends from the Internet. And that's what this allows you to do. Hopefully that was good enough. No, that was outstanding. Mr. Pete, did you have something on that? Well, as Thomas said about the events, is that when you see us all come together, and basically what we're doing is we're building social capital.

And social capital is the most valuable capital you can make. And I think the goal, after you start building social capital, the goal, the end, is to build civilizational capital. And I think that that's the road that we're on right now. No, that's absolutely true. I completely agree with you. And, you know, all of the, and, you know, kind of dovetailing that with Harvey's point.

Harvey, you talked about how forming an official organization, what is it, forming an official organization, and what is it like and and and and having like something that's real with a bank account with an EIN number that's one thing like if you know we're going to help walk you through that if you want to start a chapter but you all will be legally incorporated organizations

with a bank account with an EIN number with all this other stuff and we'll help you set all that up we've got the experience and the expertise that can help you with that But like one of the things I remember reading about it was like this I don't know where I read it It was one of I think it could have been a Scott Greer article One of the biggest critiques. I think he was just critiquing the DR And he said that you know with all this talk of teal bucks and and

Things for investors to put money into there's a Significant lack of organizations to invest into And I think that with the foundation of the OGC and, you know, and similar organizations in our chapter organizations, for the first time, we actually have something that we can point at, hey, this organization is, I call it the hub of a wheel. The OGC is a institutionalized social club. It's an institutionalized social network. And that's what we're trying to do with it. We're trying to make it be a thing which can then create other things, right? Businesses can be made out of it, out of the guys that are

within it, 501c3s, other various organizations or, you know, guys can be hired, even between states, even between chapters. One chapter says, hey, I need a guy. Is someone from another state in the OGC willing to relocate? Call that state's chapter. Oh, yeah, this guy's experienced in this. And it becomes its own ecosystem of social capital. That's what it is.

That's Thomas and you, Mr. Pete, were exactly right when speaking about that is that this is. this is a I always say mold bug always you know this is the one thing that he said that I kind of keep um he said that the best political victories are the ones that make future victories easier and this is what the OGC is the OGC is a victory that will make future victories easier that is what it is a it and in order to do anything politically you need a in order and this is something that we should all understand like because democracy does not equal politics All right. I said this last night.

I don't think voting is the answer to our problems. I think politics is the answer to our problems. And in order to get active in politics, you need to first build a block of guys that need to be represented. And right now, that is exactly what we are doing. We are building a block of dudes, very high quality dudes who agree with a lot of things, and we are finally starting to represent them. But I've been going on for a little while.

I hope that answers your question sufficiently. I hope you are, you know, I hope you are satisfied with that answer, whether you hear this live or on the replay. But that, I think, are a lot of the best reasons to, to, what was it, to, what should I say? To, what was it, start an OGC chapter in your local area. Anyway, we just had, we just, we just had another event attending. I'm going to hold off on Super Chats for a little bit longer. we only got a few more to go left through,

but I wanted to welcome up onto the panel as a sort of like, you know, third quarter, late third quarter sub. Mr. Curtis, not me, not you. Thank you very much for joining us. How are you doing this evening, sir? Yeah, doing great. Thanks for having me. It was amazing to see all of you guys again.

It's one of those things that I'm always looking forward to, and it's always over far too soon. And I feel like I got in here at just the right time, too, because that was a very good question, like, why even bother putting together a chapter? And Paul answered it pretty much the way that I would have, except to say, everyone's always talking about parallel institutions. Well, this is it. No, that's absolutely, that's absolutely it. I think, I don't think you could have time that better. Yeah, so I don't know if this was mentioned before, but you can see the,

the absolutely amazing artwork that we have here on screen, our billet and the name tag. We're talking about quality in all things, boys. Even just the aesthetic is of the highest tier. One of our chapters, the new Ivy League out of New England, has a, as you can see, very talented graphic artists who put all of these together for us.

So great thanks to him. Great shout out to him. He goes by the architect and we're looking forward to seeing more from him as well. Absolutely. I think that these brochures were, honestly, they were better than if we did them ourselves. Like, they were excellent. They were absolutely excellent. They were, what was it?

It was like, how do I even, what is it? It's it was it was the aesthetics were perfect almost they were on point and and and yeah no it was it was absolutely wonderful. And you know this this is I don't want to like like kind of state things that I'm biased and favored towards but like would you gentlemen looking at that knowing nothing else about the OGC think oh hey a pretty professional organization put this together. Yes my friends believe your lying eyes. Exactly. I know that was a bit of a leading,

self-serving question, but like, come on, look at that. It speaks for itself. I don't even need to say anything. Like, like,

you know, Mr. Curtis's dramatic sort of reveal. Like, yeah, absolutely. This is, you know,

it, in many ways, you know, people, people talked about larping until it becomes real. You know, the old glory club was very much an informal thing at first. But as,

you know, we started acting professional, taking minutes at meetings, having ritual, having these other things. You know, by ritual, I mean, just like a little thing that gets read. We're not masons or anything like that. But, you know, it's like, like by having things like that, we became professional over time. And now look at the fruits of it. Look at the fruit of it. I mean, these things take a very long time to spin up. Large organizations take a long time to die. And they take an even longer time to get on their feet. And here we are very small, but we're growing very quickly. And this is something that we're in for the long haul. Like I said with parallel institutions,

in order to become an institution, we'll have to put in the work and take the time, and we're going to get there. But one of the, one of our members, our, our, our, our conciliary once said to me and there were some others present for this that one of the best things about turning 40 is that you get to see the things that you worked for your entire life kind of coalesce and that's very encouraging indeed for someone like me who is on the wrong side of 35 but also since a lot of us are so a lot of our members are very young i think that you can all uh anticipate that your participation in the old glory club and its chapters can bear fruits that now might seem a little bit embarrassing to even hope for.

No, this is absolutely true. And, you know, I can't, I wish I could sit here and say that every single chapter that we're going to spin up is going to be successful, is going to, like, you know, stay active and is going to be like a 20, 30 year long chapter, year old chapter. I wish I could sit here and honestly say that. But like we're going to have chapters that wither on the vine. We're going to have guys that were like just, just this close to getting everything. And it just all falls apart.

We're going to have failures. We're going to have setbacks. Right now we are on this great euphoric moment. We've just come off the event. Everything looks like it's finally starting to fire on all cylinders. All of this stuff we've been talking about on the timeline. It's starting to be. become a reality, but these things always were in it for the long haul. We are not here,

you know, just to like, what is it like, you know, you don't, you don't just like, have the spirited bayonet charge at the start of the battle and expect to win. You know, that's, that's not, maybe a battle will open up with something like that, but that's not how it works. It's a slog. It's going to be a lot of boring, unexciting, unenthusiastic paperwork. It's going to be, you know, maybe, maybe I don't want to bring this on us, but maybe, you know, shoot, we might face resistance. You know, some people may start seeing us as we get more successful and we can only hope to be prepared for that. But like, this is a long, hard road that we have ahead of us. But, you know, as Charlie said earlier last night on this stream, it's like,

we only have three outcomes. We only have three outcomes open to us. And I personally would rather the best outcome of those three. And not to belabor this, but yes, we will face resistance. And it would be really, really boring if we didn't. But that's the whole point of this. There are real dangers engaging in politics or real dangers engaging in politics against a regime that is becoming increasingly unhinged.

And one of the most important things you can have if you're going to take up this fight is a network of people who are willing to look out for you. We're more interested in brotherhood than we are in any ideology. We're more interested in forming social relationships and building social capital than we are necessarily in engaging in politics. the idea is that you're going to be able to call on your brothers from across the nation in your time of need. And this is where that begins. No, that's absolutely true. That's absolutely true. I hope it's apparent, but like, you know, me personally, I really do believe in what we're doing here.

I don't want to speak for you, gentlemen, but I hope it's the same for you guys. Yeah, this is far more important than all of the YouTube videos and streams and whatever else. I mean, it's all just preamble to getting at this point. We're kind of just getting started now. All of that was just preparing us and connecting us so that we could actually begin to do something. Absolutely. Unless any of you have anything else to put in real quick, I'm going to go back to the super chats. We only have a couple more left to go through.

Hannibal Barka for $9.99. Thanks again for a great event. I was picturing down the line an OGC endowment invested in new founding using growth. Protect our guys by investing in our guys. Imagine dues going to this. You know, that's a very interesting thought. And, you know, I don't want to speak for the club. I'm speaking for myself right now. But I really like what the new founding guys are doing. I really like what they're what they're very much trying to do. And I hope that they've been successful getting people jobs because, you know, we would all, every single one of us would much rather work for an employer. If we're not self-employed, we would much rather work for an employer that has our views, that has our interests in minds, or would rather hire,

if we are, if we are an employer, would rather have an employee, hire an employee who holds our views, who believes the same things we do. And so I really like organizations like new founding and what they're trying to do. And I could, you know, I think that your idea is very interesting and it'll probably warrant some consideration and perhaps even discussion. Thank you for that and thank you for your generosity, Mr. Hannibal Barka. Just on a related note to that, at the event, we did have a speaker from the return to the land movement, which is a nice place to park investments as well if you want to build a

community that only has the people you want in it and is completely legal under the current U.S. codes. So there's a lot of partnerships that we're hoping to be able to build into this. And I don't see why new founding couldn't be one of those. That was Mr. Peter Zier, right? Yes, indeed. Okay.

Outstanding. Yeah, that's the individual you want to look up. if there are any investors, if there are any investors looking at this. Yeah, and his last name, C-S-E-R-E. It's, I think that might be Eastern European, but we won't hold it against him. I mean, shoot, few generations.

They're already like, whatever. NewsFist for three U.S. dollars. And thank you very much for coming, Mr. NewsFist. It was an absolute pleasure meeting you. says it was so lovely to meet you looking forward to next year my favorite talks were definitely deluse i think he was talking about you mr last things and uh charlie's talk on the uk um yeah no that's that's absolutely yeah i i we we've talked about both of those talks extensively here and i think they were both really good talks yeah i will respond to your

DM soon enough as well i'm just responding to a lot of a lot of uh inquiries at the moment Okay, outstanding. Yeah, we're all probably going to be inundated for the next couple of weeks. What was it? Was it Mr. Chief Slingin' Beef for $5? Once again, he says, I'm behind watching right now. I shall inquire on getting into the chapter in my great state. We are also the reason Texas exists. You are welcome, Texas. Yeah, I completely agree. Well, Mr. Chief Slingin' Beef, you know, I hate to tell you this, but Virginia is the reason that Tennessee exists. So, you know, yes, Tennessee is, but at the same time, I mean, you know, Sam Houston, he may have been governor of Tennessee, but he was born in Virginia. So, you know, all I'm saying is that it's like, it's, it all originates from somewhere.

All right. but thank you very much, Mr. Chief Slingin' belief. Chief, Chief Sling and Beef. God bless you, and thank you for all your generosity. Next up, Mr. Parsi Fall, one of my favorite Wagner operas, sends $50. And if that's the same Parsy Fall that I think it is, I'm going to have a conversation with you later.

But thank you very much for your generosity, and God bless you. appreciate it. I really appreciate the message there, too. God lives in the silence. It's so true. It's absolutely true. And then finally, or at least finally so far, although we'll probably be wrapping it up here pretty soon.

Mr. Call Me Ignorant for $50 says, Bad News, I was the dumbest guy there. Well, that's how you know you were in the right room of guys. Good news. I'm still pretty smart. All right. A pleasure meeting everyone. OGC was amazing.

Can't wait for next year. God be with you. I'll be honest, Mr. Call me ignorant. There were times where I felt like the dumbest guy in that room, you know. I don't know if any of you, any of you gentlemen can relate to that, but like,

you know, I grew up usually being the smartest guy in the room, you know, usually performing pretty above average and all that. And then as soon as I get to this event, it's like, I am in like the lower 50% of IQ in this room, you know? And that's something against me.

like it's just the the amount of quality we have assembled i don't know if you gentlemen can relate to that definitely not i was definitely the highest IQ in the room no i was i was i saw them having a psychic battle over it uh after the last speech it was pretty yeah yeah we'll try to move dishes with our minds like pick them up off the table and stuff like that i broke one uh pete i'm pretty sure you broke that with your hands. You know, Pete's a really, a really intimidating dude in person. Like, like, I'm not. No, no, no, Pete. Like, if a fight breaks out and we're, you're one of the first guys I'm grabbing. Like, like you look like you could, you could, you could, you could, like,

put a fist through a brick wall. Yeah, I'm, yeah. At least, hey, you know, the great thing about my generation is, is we got into fights. You know, so I've given and I've taken. And I've said that, you know, one of the biggest problems with a lot of the people that I meet is, and I'm talking about, I'm not even talking about younger, zoomers. I'm talking about millennials too, is they've never been punched in the mouth. Once you get punched in the mouth, once you get like in a street fight and get, you know, get your clock cleaned, your outlook on life becomes a little different. Absolutely. Changes people. Absolutely. No, I completely agree with you.

And, I mean, hopefully we aren't going to start a fight club to start to start correcting that deficit. I don't think it's necessary. I think all you need to do is just find a, find a Muay Thai gym or a BJJ gym or something like that, and that'll fix it for you. But yeah, excellent. Call me ignorant. His name is Stephen. He said can't wait for next year.

Do we want to wait before we make that announcement? You know what? I got one more super chat, but I'll tell you what. You know what? I think now is as good of a time as any. So ladies and gentlemen, we are planning on having a conference next year around the same time of year at hopefully the same location. And all of you listening who didn't make it to the event, you know, wonderful.

but I hate to be the bearer of bad news. The event will be the exact same size as it was last year. So I would highly recommend all of you around June timeframe, start clearing your calendars and being ready. I don't know when we're going to announce it maybe somewhere around January like we did this year. But next year we're going to, we are not going to increase our ticket size whatsoever. The reasoning behind this is that because of Dunbar's number, we can't let the event get much bigger than it is without losing the, you know, kind of like the fact that you can kind of talk to 80%, 90% of the people at this event. Once you get a little, once you get too much higher beyond what we have right now, we start losing a lot of the small sort of feel of it. So I'd highly recommend all of you, start saving a little bit of money.

These tickets are not cheap. So I'd recommend putting some money aside if you really want to go. And once we announce it next year, we'll see you there. But yeah, we're not increasing ticket size whatsoever. Yeah, if you just put away, well, let's say if we announce and start selling tickets half a year from now, If you put away a $20 bill every week, you should be good. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah, no, that's, yeah, that's, we wanted to make that announcement. And then finally, the last super chat that we have right here before I kind of start going into our final thoughts is from Mr. A.A's evil twin, the boomer slayer for $100. I hate I couldn't make it this past weekend, but I was glad that I could ensure Micah Pole made it. Yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm really glad that Mr. Michael Pol could have made it as well. We're very grateful that he was able to come. And thank you, Mr. A's evil twin. We really, we really, really are grateful for you. $100.

That's a lot of money. Thank you. Yeah, no. Question in the chat that I don't know how to answer because I just never really looked it up. What was the pricing on tickets this year? Can you explain that to people? Yeah, I don't remember them off the top of my head. It was like what, like 500 and something for a single room and then like 700 for a double or closer to 600 to 600, 800. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. No, and and this is and this is the thing. What is it? It's like and look,

inflation prices. I don't want to be the guy who says this, but prices aren't going to be going down anytime soon. Like this is, and the reason, the reason that we have such a price tag on these events, and I'm sure Mr. Curtis or Mr. Charlie or Mr. Pete could kind of back me up on this, the reason that we have a price tag that's that high on these events and a lot of people like, fool, that's a lot of money. But I'll tell you what, you are absolutely getting what you pay for, number one, in terms of quality and in terms of professionalism. Number two, the price tag keeps the riff-raff out, right? Look, guys, if we're going to be an aristocracy,

part of that is being able to leverage some money when you need to. All right, like, let's not kid ourselves. You don't need to be, you don't need to make freaking six figures to come to this event. All right. You don't even need to, like, I was, sorry, go ahead, Mr. Charlie. Oh, well, no, it's like the price of like a PlayStation or something, you know, I mean. Well, also, it's not to imply that having money makes you a higher, like a person who's more competent. The cost of the price tag is a display of your seriousness.

If you're going to be expending that sort of cat, that amount of cash for something like this, we can reasonably assume that you are invested in it. So it's not to denigrate those who work hard and are having a hard time of it, but work harder. Yeah. The rooms are beautiful. The rooms are beautiful. There's an indoor pool, an outdoor pole. The facility is beautiful.

There's an outdoor, basically, balcony where you can smoke cigars and enjoy the evening with the boys. It's a it's well worth the money. Believe me. There's another place in Tennessee that for two days would be about the same price and you would not American Renaissance does there's there. You just don't get the kind of outdoors kind of thing with it. You don't get the kind of balcony thing with it. So yeah, this place is fantastic. I loved it. Can't wait to go back. Yeah, the view is absolutely wonderful. That's something that really doesn't doesn't get overstated enough, but it really is a, it's almost a picturesque location to have this sort of thing. And yeah, I mean, and, you know, and like I said, it, it keeps a lot of the, let's just say, less serious people who aren't as willing to. And here's the thing, like, you know, for those of you who are submitting chapter proposals and you're putting your real names and real addresses on here, this is the same thing, right? You're putting skin in the game. You're investing. you're showing us that you care,

that you're willing to take risks, that you're willing to stick your neck out, you know, and that's the exact same thing as here. You know, the first year, all of us put our money in, not knowing whether we were going to be around

a whole bunch of spurgs or what. But, but, but, but we'll see. I mean, like, like,

like, and we did see. And it was, it was probably one of the best, like, you know, it was one of the best things. It was one of the best things.

that we could have ever done. And so that's why the price tag is on it. And if you're willing to put your money where your mouth is, and if you are a pre, by the way, I think if you're, I don't know how we're going to do this, but we floated the idea of if you've attended the previous events and you want to attend this year and you're willing to put yourself down,

I think we could, we might, I don't know if we're going to prioritize them or what the, what the idea is, but we might, you know, but we're, and we're going to have some, some places for new people who haven't attended the event before

too. But it's like we want to make sure that everyone who can make it and wants to go will be able to make it. Anything else on that before I move on? Mr. Vinhoek just sent in a $199 super chat, multiracial working class populism. Not so sure if, I appreciate your generosity is all I'm going to say. It's definitely not a description of the conference.

No, not at all. No. Yeah, speaking on more about events, general. Obviously, the national conference we just had is the headliner every year. But say you can't make it for whatever reason. The regional chapters are going to be hosting their own local events going forward, and that will be more often, more affordable. I know the new Ivy League has something in the works, and so do I. The Virginia chapter wants to host an event before the summer is over. So if you're willing to do a little driving,

and come meet the boys and you don't have to wait a whole another year to meet us. Yeah, we're very excited about that because this will allow people to go to conferences and other types of events without having to spend as much money because, you know, the one thing we haven't touched on here is there are just underlying economic realities

where the ticket prices are pretty much priced so that we can, you know, be somewhere around break-even. Like, more or less, it's not really possible to charge less without, you know, losing money, which is not something we can do as an organization this new and this fresh, right? So we wish we could have you for less, but the fact is, when you're putting on organizations, when you're putting on conferences of this scale, it is quite expensive and, you know, we have to charge or we have to charge for that. Absolutely. Well, I think we've gotten through

everything. I think we've gotten through all the super chats and all of that. And we've talked, we've pretty much talked about every aspect of the event. One thing I want to mention real quick was the even, even like the hotel, the quality of the facilities was outstanding. Like the food, the food was lovely. It was, it was real food. It was good. And, and, you know, like, and all of the, what was it? I'm going to finish. I mean, before I go to final thoughts, I'm going to say, there was one of these attendees who was in the elevator going from his room to the sort of conference room. And there was just some random woman who was at the hotel at the same time and looked over and I guess saw his lanyard. And she asked him, are you with the old glory club?

Because, you know, there are signs up? And he said, yes, ma'am, I am. And she said, what are you all about? And he had no idea what to say to her because he wasn't a club member. He wasn't affiliated with us just outside of being an attendee of the event. But he, you know, he thought about it for a second. And he said, we're here to make America great again. And she absolutely loved it.

She shook his hand. She said, God bless you all. I hope you all succeed. And that's the kind of spontaneity, that kind of sort of spontaneous consensus that we've all kind of come to the conclusion of that even someone who, you know, was totally outside of our, you know, messaging and branding sessions can say something like that about us. it's absolutely that that more than anything else should tell you the power that this organization

is is is is beginning to wield and it is really something i believe in um with that i want to get into final thoughts and uh shilling we're going to kind of do them both simultaneously like share your final thoughts or or shill first and then share your final thoughts either way um we're going to start with you mr charlemagne go right ahead uh well if you want to keep going with this todd lewis on his praise of folly channel gave a nice little 42 minute summary of the conference and it looks like the distributist is doing a stream right now which i'll be hopping up or too as soon as we end so the fun doesn't have to end now you can you can go watch another uh two or three hours stream if you want after this absolutely yeah i'd highly recommend everyone going on over there um what is it mr

now we're going to move on on mr curtis you have anything any final thoughts anything you want to show anything like that yeah just wanted to uh to say definitely check out dave's excuse me definitely check out dave's stream prudes on it they're going through the talks in great detail so if you are feeling that fomo you can get over there and at least get an idea of what was talked about um Just as a final thought, forming brotherhood and fighting against the atomization of our modern day requires you to be present and in proximity to other men. And I do mean men. And this is our mission. We will provide what you need to find like-minded individuals with whom you can

form a brotherhood as a Greeks called philia, something that is sorely lacking in the modern day. And we would love to have you. Absolutely. And I'm, yeah, that's, I can't, I can't reiterate that enough. Mr. Harvey, do you have anything to, to shill anything that you want to, you want to final thoughts that you want to say anything like that? Yes, the Virginia chapter finally got off its butt, aka you kicked me into gear. we have some social media accounts that were just spun up.

So they're looking pretty bare bones, but that's where you'll be able to contact us. On the OGC website, our chapters page has the link tree where you'll find our email, Twitter, and telegram channels. So get in contact with us if you're in Virginia. We want to hear from you. Thank you. Excellent. Excellent. Absolutely.

Mr. Last Things, do you have any final thoughts that you want to share anything you want to show? Yeah, well, I mean, I'll just reiterate what a lot of people have said here. You know, this is my second year at the conference. It's really the highlight of my year. I had a blast. I had as much fun as I knew I would. I'm going to be going on in Praise of Folley's channel Saturday night. he's coming on mind Sunday night, 9 p.m. Eastern. We're both, we both, you know, enjoyed one

another's talks and we felt like there was, there was a bit of resonance between them. We both kind of talked about the machine as metaphor. So I think we're going to be chatting a little bit about what we both had to say at the event, if people want to tune in for those. Sorry, I was muted. Yes, I go over and check out that stream on a, on, we didn't talk much about Todd's talk. I really liked his talk, particularly everyone kind of got, I think, a little bit too wrapped up in the technology stuff, but I liked his idea of the culture war as a frozen conflict. I really like that idea, but I'd highly recommend everyone go over and check out Mr. Todd Lewis's channel for his, for his stream as well. Finally, Mr. Pete Cignonas,

you have anything that you'd like to shill, anything, any final thoughts, anything like that? Yeah, I'd just like to repeat what I said from the stage on the panel. I've been a, I've been in this since before we picked the name. And it took me a good nine to 12 months to really figure out what we were doing here. And once I figured out what it was, you know, I was all in. And it's weekends like this, it's events like this. It's getting to know you guys personally that make me realize that this is the way to go. When people ask me, what do I do?

When people are like, well, what do I do now? I'm like, start an old glory club chapter. They're like, who's the old glory club? I'm like, tune into our live stream, check out our substack. And yeah, I'm completely sold. I don't know how anybody who wasn't there came away from that

with a little bit of a black pill at all. So that's all I'll say It was great being with you guys And look forward to the next time I can be In person with each and every one of you Absolutely and the same goes for me Mr. Pete And I hope the same goes for all of us It was

And when you say you know What to be I'm sure people have been asking you that for years For years because you've been doing this for a long time Even back when you were in the libertarian sphere People would probably ask you hey well what do we do now what do we do now and you know and and now it's like you know we finally have something that we can actually that's actionable that we can tell people get involved with the old glory club start an old glory club chapter you know you want to save america well that's this this whole organization exists to

save america like that's at least in in some way shape or form that's what we're going to do and i'm i'm exceptionally glad that you know we've got we've got younger guys like myself and mr turnip see we've got guys with experience like you and Thomas and even Mr. Charlemagne and Mr. Last Things and Mr. Curtis. And, you know, we got, we got motivated self-starters like, like Mr. Harvey down here.

You know, I'm, we really do have some of like, like, it's not just young guys. There are like, there were some 50 year olds, you know, just random dudes who, who, you know,

otherwise, if we weren't living in a absolutely dysfunctional society, would have no reason to do anything other than just professionals and generally society upholding. And now we're gathering them all together for this kind of like this revolt against decline, this revolt against collapse. We are we are not going to let it happen without a little bit of a fight. And I'm, I guess that's kind of counts as my final thoughts.

Like everything the old glory club does, follow us, subscribe to us. If you can spare the money, send it to us. We're going to, I promise you we're going to use it for saving America. It really, that's, that's all. I can really say. That's all I can really shill. Everything that all of us as content creators has been doing, as Mr. Charlie said, it was just the preamble, was just the prolog, was just getting the ideas out there. Now it's time to do the harder thing, which is actually bringing them into reality. Thank all of you for coming. Thank all of you for listening. For those of you

came to the event, thank all of you for coming to the event. God bless you all. God bless the speakers. Head on over to the distributist channel if you want to keep listening to content like this and check out Mr. Todd Lewis's stream this weekend. Otherwise, I hope all of you have a very good evening. God bless you all, and we are going to save this country.