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chimping out and always chimp.
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But all right, fellas, with that out of the way, let's quickly jump into the topics.
I mean, so nothing really happened this week, guys.
There's nothing really to talk about, right?
we can just end the show right now and call it quits, right?
You know, no big news stories, nothing like that, right?
Well, so we have to talk about the big one.
I mean, I'll have to say this.
We didn't really mention it too much.
Last week, we were alive and we were hearing some speculations of what was going on.
And, boy, what a weekend has been.
So where do we even start with this?
I mean, the fog of war around this has just been nuts and the muddying the waters of, you know,
what has actually been happening, who's been shot, who's been killed.
I mean, this is just one of those things where Twitter's just been an absolute shit show of the past week.
There's been so much fake news going around.
It's almost impossible to get a read on the situation.
But, gentlemen, what can you say opening takes-wise as to what is currently going on with the Israel-Iran conflict?
Is the United States getting pulled into this?
I mean, it seems like every time I check with people are saying, oh, no, the United States isn't getting involved.
Oh, it's getting involved.
Oh, it's so over.
Oh, we're so back.
Talk to me, boys.
Well, I mean, it's going to be an air war. No boots are going to be on the ground. I mean, let's dispel that myth already. I mean, there's, it would take two years to stage it. Where are you going to stage it from, Armenia, Afghanistan, Iraq? I mean, there's no place to stage it from. I did hear recently, I can't, you know, can I say who, but somebody in, you know, who's inside on the F-35 program,
says that there is no
like
they've never even trained or thought to train
for an attack on Iran
so
F-35s or
fighters are out of it
then it's just the B-2s
sorry I don't have any information on the B-2 bombers
and everything
but you're not going to invade Iran
on the ground
anyone who's looked at a topographical map
knows it's impossible. Anyone who
understands the region knows it's
impossible. All they can do is bomb it,
keep bombing it and keep bombing it.
But apparently the nuclear facility
or wherever they're doing this is deep, deep,
deep underground. It would take
strategic bombing
one after another in
certain intervals in order
to actually get that deep.
And then that's only getting through the earth.
You're not talking about. I'm sure they have
the best kind of, you know, the best kind of, you know,
concrete cement, whatever.
I would expect that you're going to start seeing
you're going to start seeing within a few days
some kind of serious thought of
serious talks about how does this get settled
without any more bombing.
I read something from an Australian source today
that Tel Aviv, parts of Tel Aviv look like Gaza,
at this point. So, you know, that Iron Dome isn't doing real good. Um, so yeah, I mean, I don't expect really
anything to come out of this. And, you know, the idea that like, this is an Israel win or an
Iran win, I don't think there's, that's even a, um, I don't even think those words mean anything
when it comes to what's happening. Well, let's say the only thing we can, oh, go ahead.
The only thing I was going to add on that was at least some of my worries have been waned a little bit because at least some people in charge have learned from the Great Vassini knowing never to get involved in a land war in Asia.
So at least that's a nice idea.
But go ahead, hunger.
Yeah, I was just going to add, I'm pretty sure the only thing we can agree on is that this is not sustainable.
This is not sustainable for Israel and this is not sustainable for Iran.
Although Iran does have a lot more material than they let on.
and then we probably think they do.
Going back to that mountain
where there's that nuclear facility enrichment,
you would have to blow up the entire fucking mountain.
I mean, you would literally have to blow up the entire mountain
to reach that power, that plant.
And, I mean, we saw, you know,
a precursor to this with the assassination
of the leader of Hezbollah, Nasrullah.
They dropped 80,000 tons on one block of Beirut
to reach, I don't even remember how,
how deep his bunker was
but it was like 100 meters
deep underground and they dropped
80,000 tons of explosives
on one place just to kill
the leader of Hezbollah.
So that's just one
leader. This is a nuclear
enrichment facility
under a fucking mountain. Like this is
not going to happen.
And I don't think Israel has
the Mossad assets
in the Iranian nuclear program to make
you know, to get to it from the insubes.
Yeah, I mean, I've been watching the, I guess, the telegram chats of various people.
Because Israel bans a lot of video recorded.
They made it illegal to record the missiles as if that's enforceable.
Just like you're saying.
Yeah.
So you can tell that Iran knew the Iron Dome can't stop hypersonics.
And they, and Iran invested in that fact.
and now you're seeing the results of that investment.
I remember I mentioned this on Twitter.
I had a conversation with my dad about it
because my dad was, he's kind of like an old boomer, Zionist guy,
and he was saying, oh, they're Israelites,
they have that laser tech, it'll shoot down everything.
And I had to explain my dad that servos can't move fast
compared to the laser.
The laser, yeah, it's light speed.
Servos aren't fast enough to track in a hypersonic missile.
Those things are over Israel in like a few,
minutes that they go to space
and come back. The servo cannot
track that fast enough and it's just useless.
It's good for conventional weapons and
drones, but the hypersonics just
blast through and hit their target.
I've been told
Iran has up to like 2000
of these things.
And they've only launched a couple of, I think
like 100 or 200 or so.
So they still have like a stock of like
they only ran through like 10% of them.
And this is what they did on 10% of it.
Like if this goes on for more weeks,
you're going to see a lot more damage.
Another thing I'm curious about,
we know that Iran buys these things from Russia,
and they probably have a few domestic copies of them too.
But it doesn't seem like we've even bothered
to ask Russia to stop selling them to Iran.
I haven't heard any talks on trying to cut the supply off
from Russia.
I mean, I don't know how we would.
Yeah, how would you even do that?
They literally share a land border.
Exactly.
But it does make me wonder,
like what's the play here
if we were serious about getting involved
full force you'd think we would be looking into
cutting off the supply lines
and you know I've been tracking our Navy and our Air Force
and other than a few
refueling planes I haven't seen a lot of activity
so I mean I say chimp out
but I'm not seeing the
physical movements that would make me think we're going to get
involved beyond potentially like
like Pete said, a bombing run or two and
some cargo refilling.
So I'm happy Trump is
not, at least in terms
of material reality, ignoring
all the bellicose tweeting,
in terms of material reality, I'm not seeing
the movements that would
suggest a full scale invasion
or anything like that. So I'm
a little happy about that.
But, you know,
to some degree, I look at Trump's
tweets and I compare them to how he talked to
the last rocket man, Kim Jong-un.
and it's very similar, very bellicose, very threatening, very, like, bombing and everything.
But even with Kim, he was like, oh, Kim wants to visit the White House.
And I was saying, oh, the Iranians want to visit the White House.
So it's kind of just, like, confusing the room.
What's that?
Bannonism, like, pollute the air.
He has a saying about, like, confusing the, like, confusing everyone with just a lot of nonsense statements and concealing the truth.
I forget what...
Strategic ambiguity.
Yeah, yeah.
And so, I don't know, Trump's words are pretty extreme, but his actions are not backing up his words thus far.
No, I mean, it definitely looked very schizophrenic, I would say, for the very least, over the weekend, you know, from tweets saying, like, oh, we got unconditional surrender and we have full air control over Iran and stuff over to the last couple days when, like we were mentioning earlier, it's like that Iron Dome is looking as indestructible.
as people once claimed.
Well, let me comment on that real quick,
and I'll give it back to you, Red Hawk.
Another thing I heard is one of the reasons
why we're not seeing video out of Israel
is because they're doing as much as possible
to jam it, to jam anything getting out,
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Areschnic type of missiles are raining down upon it.
and I think we know what we've talked about a Russianics here that's the Russian-style missile that
has like five payloads yeah and you know that's why you haven't seen anything really for the past
two nights the videos you were seeing videos like crazy for a while and then the last two nights you're
not getting any videos out of Israel but you're hearing about insane damage so yeah I mean unit 80200
is working overtime let's be honest oh yeah yeah yeah so
So, I mean, why don't we actually shift this conversation back over here to?
We kind of have like an update of what's actually going on over there in the Middle East,
like somewhat from what we can tell.
You know, none of us actually have like eyes on the ground, so to speak.
You know, we can just only tell from afar.
But actually shifting back to the domestic side with the reactions from everybody over here has been.
Number one, the American people have been kind of schizophrenic about this as well.
I mean, it's over 80% of Americans do not want U.S. involvement.
in a war with Iran.
However, at the same time, over 80% of Americans don't want
our brands have access to a nuclear weapon.
It just, again, shows you the, like,
what actually can you pull from, you know, these polls, right?
But so, at least from, like, the Trump side of the Trump base here at home,
we have huge infighting between, you know, the America First,
with people like Tucker Carlson,
and then we have huge fighting with, I guess we call it, you know,
the Zionist lobby, the neo-com.
whatever words you want to use for it.
There's been some extremely like egregious behavior
from pretty much all your normal normie cons to the various people in houses of
Congress.
Like I'm, what's that guy?
I'm a senator fine or representative fine, whatever the hell that guy's name is down
in Florida.
You know, the tweet that resurfaced recently where he's like,
I didn't wash my hands after I shook Benjamin Netanyahu's hands.
Like, fucking give me a break, dude.
Well, so what actually is the vibe here at home, gentlemen?
and how can we react?
Yeah.
Everybody who talk it once.
Go ahead. I'll step back.
You know, I am in New York City and
the liberals here are
not exactly pro-Israel.
They were famous for a Columbia riot.
It's an interesting
dynamic
because
even most of the Jews here
who are like younger than 40 are
they're kind of pro-Palestinian but they're also anti-Iran
Iran so they're in this like juxtaposition
of like wanting to cheer on Israel but also call it a war criminal
so it's it's fascinating to watch the mental
the mental loops that people go through
I think what they've decided on a large amount is that
Israel should defend itself from Iran but
Benjamin Netanyahu has to go to prison
and you see this reflect I mean a lot of them are
Israeli dual citizens and you see this in Israel
as well where
you know
Nanyahu
almost lost the
Vono confidence by like
like eight votes he won it
so he's on the way out
but here in Manhattan at least
it's it's definitely
um
I think once I ran
attacked Israel those there was like almost like
everyone shut up
it's probably I mean
given how robot like these people are
it's probably because New York Times
has written an article about it yet so they don't know what to think
and they're afraid to think
the second in the New York Times has
an opinion piece on it, they'll take that opinion.
So depending on what those journalists
decide, that's probably going to be the sentiment going
forward. You are 100%
right, cringy, on that. The New York Times
has not reported on this issue
and given its opinion yet, but
you know, Red Hogg, I think you use the right word.
I think the reaction has been very schizophrenic.
Like, obviously,
anybody attached to the
U.S. government, especially in
fucking Congress, they've been
absolute sycophans for this
entire war. It's just non-stantiated.
stop hour after hour of tweets, you know, just getting on their knees, you know, doing,
I'm not even going to describe what they're doing on their knees, but you can imagine that.
And it's just, it's just disgusting.
But the reaction of the public and the reaction of like, I guess, the alt media sphere,
if you want to call it that, has been much better.
I mean, no one is falling for this shit.
I mean, no one is falling for the shit because Israel is the first one to attack.
And, you know, I mean, that does count for something in the minds and the impression
it leaves on people that Israel is the one
that bombed Iran first.
You know, that's just one point.
And like, no one is, everyone has kind of settled
on the position that
there's not going to be troops on the ground
and we will not accept troops on the ground.
You know, which is fantastic.
That's actually wonderful news
because we're not, because hopefully
that doesn't get us trapped in the neocon,
you know, cycle, you know,
bomb the third world, import the third world.
We don't want that to happen.
And everyone's kind of settled on.
learning the lessons of the past 20 years.
But did you have something to say?
Well, I was going to say something to attach to that is, first of all,
if I'm in like Israel's position right now,
basically every minute longer that it takes for Donald Trump
to make a definitive statement that the United States
is going to start air striking Iran or boots on the ground or whatever,
every minute that passes is further to the like the death rattle
for Israel as far as they're concerned.
So they got to be freaking out and no doubt they're going to try
to be pulling all the tricks out of their
bag of, you know, whatever to try and get
the United States involved. But the other thing
too is just seeing
the pictures like
this out of Tel Aviv or some of these
missiles actually hitting it, making Israel
not seem to be this like unstoppable
force anymore. I think it
actually just puts into context immediately
in people's minds that, oh, so this
actually isn't just going to be a cakewalk.
Like this isn't going to be one of those things.
States literally just drops a couple bombs that's literally over.
Like this line that a lot of like the neocons and establishment conservatives are saying is that,
oh, well, we don't want regime change.
We just want strategic bombing.
It's like, well, really?
This strategic bombing?
Like, you really think this is just going to be an absolute cakewalk when this is the response
afterwards?
Like, how do you think Iran's actually going to respond when you really start, you know,
putting the hurt on them?
I think it just makes everyone think twice about how, you know, we've been told this is just
going to be the easiest thing.
in the world and I don't think so.
There's no coherent response.
There's no coherent response coming out of these people.
But please, please go ahead.
Some of us are old enough to know this script.
Well, first, oh, we can't allow them to have a new, oh, wait a minute, now we want
regime change.
Oh, now we just, you know, want the bomb, you know, it's just going to be strategic bombing.
And, I mean, and everything's a lie.
This is just Iraq all over again.
I mean, it's, it's amazing that they're trying to sell this when they've sold it before.
And then you have Tucker Carlson coming out and going, yeah, I bought it the last time, not buying it this time.
And, you know, it's like, oh, well, what is, what is that god-awful goblin Mark Levine calling him Tucker Katarlson or something like that?
Mark Levine is an evil man.
And then Laura Lumer shares, it says, oh, look, this document shows that Tucker Carlson took $200,000 from Qatar.
First of all, Tucker finds $200,000 in his couch.
Second of all, the first thing I did was read the document, and I'm like, it doesn't mention,
it doesn't mention anything in here except legal fees for a Farah lawyer for the head of Qatar to come over here.
So people, I mean, they're just out and out.
I mean
literally if somebody gets mailed
anthrax I'm gonna
I'm gonna kill myself
I mean it's
this is the same shit all over again
I have to emphasize
there's one difference between Iraq
and Iran
and that of course is that Iran is a
Iraq is a flat plane
it's designed for aerial
landing warfare
Iran is fucking fortress
mountains you're you sent
100,000 boys.
Yeah, you sent 100,000 boys to Tehran.
They are stuck there.
The mountain STGs and everything and the RPGs,
you can't refuel them, you can't supply them.
They are now hostages in Tehran.
The second you land boys there,
they're not coming back without having to deal some.
They're basically starting from the position of we are now hostages here
because you can't fly choppers to supply them
without getting shot down.
You can't support them with bombing runs
in the mountains that you can't find targets with
mountains are hard to find targets
with you're underneath Iraq
your plane's not going to see the thing
this is a
it would be like
like
just you're just asking people to die in the mountains
for nothing like we we dropped
more bombs in Vietnam trying to deal with jungle
people than all of World War II
across two continents of theaters of war
like that little Vietnam
peninsula we put more
bombs there than on two continents
two theaters of war because jungles are hard
They're not designed to be just rolled over with tanks.
And good luck with tanks in the freaking mountains, man.
Like, how are you going to even get armored divisions through there?
You're just dumping guys in a meat grinder and a fortress.
Like, the only iron dome there is the steel of the mountains
are going to lock them into a death match.
It's impossible.
I mean, yeah.
The last country that conquered Iran was Alexander the Great, correct?
and the Mongols
but like that
how the Mongols
conquer Iran
they killed 70% of the population
you're not killing 70 million people
like the world will stop you
well I mean I
wouldn't count on that but I do
get where you're going with it
yeah this is
and not to mention
one of the things I saw that came out this week
was that this whole
all the strategy about
hitting people, having people on the inside
and hitting,
hitting,
like,
assassinating people and taking out targets.
The signature
in Ukraine and the signature
of what's happening in Iran are the
exact same signature. Yeah.
This is the same, it's
the same fight. It's the same people doing
this. And I saw
what's that,
what's that she,
the,
the, the, the
Shiboon over in England.
Kemi,
Ordinich or something like that.
Yeah.
I saw her interview
today. She said
this was the greatest thing.
She was supporting
Israel and she
clearly said this.
She said that
the war in
Gaza, the war in Gaza is
a proxy war for Europe
just as the war in
Ukraine against Russia is a proxy war
for Europe. What she said,
the Gaza war is a proxy war for Britain
and the Ukraine is a proxy war for Europe.
I mean, they're just saying it out loud now.
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Yeah, and I was watching that, I'm like, I do not want to, after the space, after the Twitter space, he put me through the other night.
I don't want to give him any credit, but damn it.
I think I want to also
there's one other thing about Iran that
that probably has to be addressed and that
is like what we do
not have much
domestic tranquility from
these kinds of wars and we're
already miles away
from domestic tranquility
the biggest
problem with this war is that it stands
to unite left and right
against the government because
this is something both of them don't want to get involved
with and
And that is a scary phenomenon.
That is a very scary phenomenon.
I was, I was, I, I sent the video to some of you folks, but I found this professor in Hong Kong, and it's fun because Hong Kong speaks English.
You get to see a little bit of the Chinese imperial perspective in English, so you get to hear it.
And a year ago, there was like this professor saying that this war will end the American Empire.
It is impossible to win.
is in a time of extreme domestic
in tranquility
it will end the American Empire
if they put boots on the ground
he had this
this really fascinating way of explaining it
like every empire has a taboo
and when you break it you kill the empire's gods
and the post-war's
taboo is this idea that
everyone's born innocent
everyone's born innocent of their past
so you know it's kind of like a cope of how liberals
think they're not
they're not the ones responsible for the
colonialism and all that nonsense. So they say, they tell themselves, oh, well, we're born innocent of that. We're good. We're interested in democracy, pro-progress and giving this gift and benevolence to other countries. When you start a war that is so obviously colonial, so obviously imperial, so obviously to no benefit to the empire, you can't tell that lie anymore. You are breaking that post-war taboo. This is not a war for democracy. This is not a war for progress.
This is not a war for any of the moral nonsense that we've been telling ourselves since the end of World War II.
This is a clear-cut imperial war for foreign power that we don't get anything benefited from.
And on pure game theory, what does it do?
It cripples us.
It cripples Russia.
It cripples Iran.
Israel's the top dog in the Middle East left now.
It's a war that they are using us to maintain hegemony in the region over everyone else.
that will break the American taboo
about like oh we're a moral empire
where we're benefiting people all these wars are for
are better you break that taboo you've broken the post-war consensus
it's over you're now just another
evil colonial empire that people hate
and everybody will hate you for it
yeah and on the destruction of the empire
I mean we have a lot of dude
we have a lot of friends in the military
who are part of the OGC
to talk to anybody
in the military under the age of 30 who's like a man with actual testosterone.
They're not dying for Israel.
They're not going to fight Iran.
They don't want to.
They've never wanted to.
And this is the meme that's going around the entire internet.
I will not die.
I'm not dying in the desert in the fucking mountain for Israel.
That's what all the Zuma young men are telling themselves.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
And if Trump asks that of the American people,
bad things are going to start happening.
Absolutely. On our discussion of what is going on on the domestic front, in a million years, I did not think that this was going to come on my radar this week when we signed off on the show last week.
But Tucker Carlson hit it out of the park this week. If people haven't watched this interview yet with Ted Cruz, it's definitely a must see. You got to go watch it.
Now, this one kind of hit me kind of close to the chest. This is one of my political blemishes. You know, everyone's got some. But I actually campaigned for Ted Cruz.
back in 2016.
So to see him make this absolute shameful appearance with Tucker Carlson was something to
behold.
I mean, first of all, I just want to establish this at the beginning.
Ted Cruz is not a retard.
I mean, he was one of the top of his class at Harvard who's on the debate team and everything.
I've seen him make really intelligent arguments before.
Oh, well, here we go.
Here's Martin May talking about this.
So let's actually read this.
So Ted Cruz was dominant debater at Princeton Harvard winning many national awards.
he was editor of the prestigious Harvard Law Review.
This is not a dumb man.
In fact, he's among the best that they've got.
The fact that he's even running with speak and spell,
mushroom cloud over New York nonsense to justify U.S. action against Iran,
tells you that they've got no actual argument to make.
If they did, he'd have made it.
Tucker manhandled him for the same reason Scott Orton and Dave Smith
torch everyone they go against.
The secret to success is simple.
Take the side that is obvious.
That is obviously right and avoid taking the side that's indefensible except with threats and moral blackmail.
Easy.
Yeah.
So with that out of the way, I mean, yeah, Ted Cruz did not do very well at all in this debate.
I mean, obviously, he's been pointing out that he's taking a lot of money from APEC.
It's also been pointing out that in the last couple challenges to Ted Cruz's Senate seat,
the margin of error is shrinking as Texas is shifting ever more blue.
So he's obviously looking for more money to hold on to his seat.
So we have a couple of clips here, and then we can actually talk about the whole neocon argument to get people back into this war.
So let's listen in.
War.
So if Iran, if there's evidence that Iran paid hitmen to kill Donald Trump and is currently doing that, where is that, what are you even talking?
I've never heard that before.
Okay.
Where is the evidence?
Who are these people?
Why haven't they been arrested?
Why are we not at war with Iran?
That's a great question to ask.
How do you know that that's true?
We know that it's true because,
We have been told that by the military and our intelligence community for the last two years.
We meaning who?
Congress has in the public.
I mean, it had multiple testimonies.
I can send you testimony.
Do we know the names of the people or where this happened or what they tried to do to kill Trump?
We do not, we have not apprehended an Iranian hitman trying to kill him.
We know that Iran is trying to do so.
In the United States.
Yes.
And by the way, like Iran put out.
This just seems like a huge headline and you're acting like a.
Everyone knows us. I didn't know that. Iran put out a whole video about murdering Trump.
Right, but I've never heard evidence that there are hitmen in the United States. I mean, trying to kill Trump right now, we should like have a nationwide drag net on this and we should attack Iran immediately if that's true.
Don't you think? No. If they're trying to assassinate our president?
They have been for two years. They are enemies. They are in war with them. Well, we are trying to think of us.
Why don't we just nuke Tehran if they're trying to murder our president?
Isn't it? There's nothing that you could do that would be worse for the United States than murdering Trump.
And I just don't understand why you're not calling for the use of nuclear weapons against the Itolla right now.
I'm serious. If you really believe there's a murder of...
Whatever it takes.
What do you mean? You don't seem to take the allegation seriously. I do.
If you believe they're trying to murder Trump, we need to stop what we're doing.
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And punish them.
That's the old trick,
that's the old trick,
the argumentation trick you do against
environmentalists who say we have 10 years left.
It's like, okay, if we have 10 years left, then why,
what are you doing? Why are you running around the world in a plane?
What are you building an underground bunker?
Are you, what are you doing?
Are you telling people, you know, why is, why are the Obama's buying,
you know, oceanfront property?
What's, you know, and it's, it's a good argument, you know,
I mean, you know, people, people tried to crawl up his,
ass. I don't know if we're going to watch the one where he talks about like the Iranian
demographics and everything. Oh, who's it? I guarantee you Henry Kissinger knew the demographics
of China. I guarantee you George Tennant knew the demographics, the population of every country
they ever thought about going into. Why? Because that's what you have to do. And okay, you could say,
okay, well, those, they had specific positions where they would have to know that.
I guarantee you someone like Forrestal knew that.
I guarantee you someone like Senator John F. Kennedy knew the population of Korea.
I mean, these are, these people are unimpressive.
They're not in charge.
They don't, they really don't know anything anymore.
I mean, I got a message from a specop guy the other day.
And he's like, you know, I just want you to know, maybe 15 years ago, the agency was competent at doing stuff.
He goes, they're not anymore.
It's like four Berkeley graduates decide that they want to arm some group here to fight against another group.
And everything goes to shit.
He goes, it's not even like planned.
It's all.
He said, I would love for it to be like evil people.
doing evil stuff.
He goes, it's incompetence now.
He goes, all the people planning this stuff
are just completely incompetent.
It goes back to the competency crisis.
We were talking about last year
where it was like, I don't get some competent people in charge.
And I mean, I don't know that we have.
I mean, maybe that's why, you know,
we've talked about this before.
Why the hell aren't the House
writing laws, passing it up to the Senate,
having the Senate sign off on it,
send it to Trump's desk.
Maybe they don't, maybe they just can't.
If it's not being written by a special interest for the benefit of the special interest,
maybe none of these lawmakers can actually write a law.
Maybe they're just so fucking dumb.
I'm willing to, I'm willing right there.
I'm willing to just be like, these people, they don't know what they're doing anymore.
Obviously, there's camps that are fighting.
I mean, I heard from inside sources three different things.
within an hour on Sunday
like we're imminently bombing
we're not going to be involved in this
and expect a
false flag attack in the next
couple days. That's
all coming from the inside the
administration. They don't know
what's going on. They're fucking incompetent.
We're fucked.
Yeah, I mean
I think as we've heard
many times Trump is just whatever
last three people he talked to
so when he talks to
Baby and the
neocons he's suddenly rowling up for war
and then he comes home to a security council
and literally his entire cabin's like
this is stupid no
and it's it's
exposing the fault lines
isn't it it's showing just how
there's no dialogue between the party
of the factions everyone's just
running on autopilot locally
and contradicting each other
I mean this is how you end up with like
the CIA
and MI16 funding
opposite sides of the same war. No one's talking. No one's reviewing data. And of course,
like every two weeks Israel saying Iran's going to have a bomb in a day and it never happens.
No, I've been saying this today. Just say no to everybody's what anybody says. Just say no.
Let them cook for a little while. Just say no. Nothing's going to happen. Just say no.
I think if Trump just says no to Israel for like a few weeks and just ignores it and realizes, oh, there is no bomb.
is no nuclear bomb happening. It's just
a lie. And maybe
we'll get somewhere. But you have to just stop
listening to every single fucking interest group that
says a word. And I don't
know why these people don't understand that people
lie. Like, do they not understand social
interest groups lie to get what they want?
They're all lying. They're all contradicting
each other. And that's how you get every department having a different
story.
I mean, there isn't, there's no, there's no
coherent narrative or stories because
there's no strategy. Everyone's
just following their own interest. There is
no plan to trust. Yeah, if there
was a script, they
would have all received the same script, but everyone is going
off in different directions, which is why
the New York Times probably hasn't written anything about it.
Very good point.
I mean, one of the things I just want to push back on
right here, and we're going to dissect this more
when we go through another clip from the same video
in a second, but this notion that
Iran has got
secret assassins that are
on the lookout for Donald Trump in the middle of
the United States right now.
is, I mean, I'm no expert about this region, but everything that I'm seeing, this just goes to the same discussion about like if Iran gets a nuke, the first thing you're going to do with it is somehow ship it over to New York and detonate it, right?
I mean, from all that I'm seeing, Iran is behaving, like, almost entirely rational to me.
And you're thinking that, oh, the best thing that we could do in our situation is assassinate Donald Trump.
Yeah, that's really going to, you know, that's really going to work out in our favor, right?
But then I just love how Tucker just takes this up to 11 basically.
It's like, well, this is like actually credible, which I don't think any of us here believe that like it actually is credible, obviously.
Now, okay, well, we actually got to do something about it.
We got to actually go attack the Iranians or I wouldn't like this if obviously like Tucker couldn't have said this.
But I wish, you know, you could just say, well, we have a bunch of Iranian Americans here.
We need to get rid of them immediately.
You know, these people got to go.
You know, same thing like Japan and the Second World War.
you know, we can't be having these people here.
There's just a million one things you could be doing to address this.
What you claim is a serious threat,
and you're just doing absolutely nothing about it except saber-rattling.
No, absolutely.
Like, if Cuba actually shot JFK, we would have nuked Cuba.
Because that's what you have to do when, you know,
you have to defend the nation,
and the president is the head of the nation.
He is the father of the nation.
that's just what you have to do.
You have to, you have to, you know, fuck around and find out.
But to be realistic on Iran, you know, I'm doing this stream with my good friend,
hit, man, we're going through the history of modern Iran from the 1500s to the Islamic Revolution.
We're only halfway there.
We're only in the 1700s.
But, like, when we get to modern Iran, like, modern Iran is not a friend of America,
but why do they have to be our enemy?
Like, where do our interests conflict with each other?
It's pretty much only in the case of Israel.
Yeah, it's like, why do I have to care?
Why do I have to care about this country at all?
Why do I have to allegedly be concerned that Iran is going to send in sleeper terrorist cells
or somehow sneak in several tonne nuclear bombs into the middle of our cities and then detonate them?
It's like, newsflash, I think it would be way easier to stop a nuke getting smuggled into the
United States than, I don't know, launching a bombing campaign against Iran. I mean, don't you think
that's the cheaper and far easier solution to this problem? Just, you know, hey, how about we put
this country on a no entry list? We've done this for so many other nations or we stock up our
defenses here at home and actually focus on domestic issues. I mean, like, if we're saying that
this country is somehow going to smuggle a nuclear weapon, the second that they have won, they're not
going to use it for what they should be using it for, actual defense from getting invaded by other
countries in the nation, or in the region, most notably Israel.
No, the first thing you're going to do with this weapon, the second that they get it is they're going to put it on a tugboat,
and they're going to take nine months to ship it over to the United States, smuggle it over the southern border,
drive it in a truck, have nobody notice, cover it with like some tarp and then detonate it in the middle of Times Square.
Like, what the fuck is this? This is a fucking looting-toon shit.
The Iranians experimented with terrorism once in the 80s or 70s.
They blew up that passenger jet.
and they realized how fucking stupid it was,
and they never did stuff like that again.
I mean,
obviously they finance pretty awful people all over,
but they tried.
I mean,
they also did target the U.S. Marines in Beirut in 82,
although that was,
I mean,
that was Lebanese Shiites,
obviously.
Yeah,
yeah,
it was.
And IDF knew that was going to happen.
It didn't say anything.
Didn't say anything.
Of course,
of course.
I would argue that while the Iranians are a major security concern,
they learned their lesson trying the al-Qaeda route back in the 80s
in the end they realized they fucked up they actually paid all the families a fee for
for killing their how nice of them right they're fucking stupid
and they're like okay let's not do that ever again
and it seems like since the 80s that we've always imagined them to be what they were in the 80s
but they kind of learned their lesson it's like okay we're not doing that
and again I don't want to trust Iran Iran is a Islamic apocalyptic
cult much like our own dispensationalists.
And, you know, it's because I deal with dispensationalism madness that I don't trust Iran.
They're more alike than not.
And I mean, let's be, let's be real.
Like Iran, like no one believes in the Islamic Republic anymore.
Even the people inside the regime believe in the Islamic Republic.
It's like communism.
And it's like being communist in the 80s in the Soviet Union.
I have seen so many TikTok videos from young,
promiscuous women in Iran
just not caring about the rules
and they're not being enforced in Iran
Why are you watching those videos?
They pop up on the timeline
unfortunately
But like I
I can tell
It's not yellow fever
It's not yellow fever, it's not yellow fever
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Because it's different.
I've seen enough nonsense on TikTok.
I've seen enough to know that the country is in the process of a slow collapse on its own without any effort.
And this bombing run actually what's doing is it's reinvigorating support for this dying regime because no one likes getting bombed.
So it's kind of like an ass-backwards way to do it.
I just don't buy that they're going to last much longer.
Anyway, that's my two cents about that.
I'm not sure anymore.
And I know you have a timeout.
in a few minutes, but
I'm not sure anymore, given the bombing that's
happened. I always believed that
the regime would not survive very
long after the death of
Comini, the Supreme Leader, because
again, like, no one really believes
in the regime anymore. You know, no one
believes in the radical Shia
mission. It was imposed.
I mean, it was a regime that was
imposed. I mean, it's
all of these regimes
are anachronisms and their times
are, Israel's
the way Israel does things
is an anachronism.
The way Iran does things is anachronism.
Turkey might be the only one
who is like,
let's get the gang back together.
Let's do some Ottoman Empire stuff.
And that actually might make sense
in that section of the world.
But I mean, it's there,
I don't think,
yeah, I've said, I don't think Israel survives this.
And it's not that Israel is going to stop existing.
it's going to stop existing in what it is.
People are, I mean, they're going to get tired of this whole Netanyahu and, you know, even, I mean,
and Netanyahu's not a hardliner.
I mean, there are hardliners there who want power.
And there are other people who are just like, no, we don't want this anymore.
Let's defeat these couple of enemies.
And let's be, you know, people want to say we're a Western country.
Let's be a Western country.
The homoes will friggin, you know, in Tel Aviv will.
will start getting really active and everything.
And I think they're just going to become another Western country.
And when they do that, they lose all their mystique and all their power and all of their,
oh, look here, it says in the Torah that we're, and it just goes away.
The only question is, what does Iran become?
Because I think Israel has been going through this transformation a whole lot longer than
has been ripe for this transformation a whole lot longer than Iran.
But then again, Iran, I mean, it's 1979, really is when,
when this really all, you know, kicked off.
So I just don't see this lasting forever, you know.
And when you see that if London and the EU and Brussels are so hot on wars
and they can't win a war, they can't win a war against Russia,
I mean, I think so much is going to be falling apart.
and the only thing we can hope for is that when that happens on that day,
that, you know, hear us, what we've done is enough to get us through
because, you know, Europe, there are a lot of things we get from Europe and yada-y-a-y-a-data
financial too.
You know, we just have to be ready for it to be able to get through it.
Yeah, you're touching on the, on a very important fact because Israel has its own
taboos, its own
moral innocence concept.
Oh, we're the people that survived
Germany. Now we're victims.
And you can't keep telling yourself
that when you're bombing so many people.
That once that memetic
crisis starts where you start realizing,
oh, I'm the bad guy,
that destroys your
political capital. Like, you can't
keep extracting the capital that you're innocent
when you've bombed literally
all of your neighbors. You are
the problem. You have to resolve it.
I'm not sure if you know works on these people.
Are we the baddies?
Well, it doesn't work on the Benji types.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, I think it is an important thing to say here is that, listen, all of us here
in agreement, all of us at the OGC have been on this train since the very beginning saying,
you know, I mean, we literally talked about this, the three things that the OGC is looking
for out of the Trump administration.
One of those was no foreign entanglements and don't get us locked into any of these
forever wars.
obviously none of us want war with iran none of us even want strategic strikes on iran i just don't want
to have to care about this country i don't think i'm forced to i don't see this country as a legitimate
threat to the united states and any way shape or form i can also acknowledge at the same time that
this place clearly isn't my friend neither is israel for that matter but it's the other thing is
is that okay so say if you know we get a bad outcome not the worst outcome the worst outcome would be
boots on the ground we've discussed that that this seems highly unlikely
if not impossible, the United States is going to have boots on the ground.
But let's just go for a bad example where the United States engages in some,
you know, strategic bombing campaigns or whatever, blows up a couple buildings,
calls it quits and says, okay, now we're done with the situation.
That's bad.
But it also doesn't really change anything that's going on in the region.
I mean, Israel still has problems with Gaza right on their doorstep.
They still have been able to squash that problem.
They're not happy with any of their neighbors and none of their neighbors are happy with them either.
and it just seems like this nation is just on a
path to self-immolation
at some point. So, I mean,
does stopping Iran really fix
this problem, I don't see it doing that.
How quickly the decade comes.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, let's take that,
let's take that worst case scenario of the strategic bombing.
The only thing, like, nothing in the region would change
because it's been fucked
ever since the existence of Israel.
But yeah, nothing in the region would change.
What would the impact be on America?
Trump will lose almost all of his political capital.
And there would be no energy left for the domestic situation
in our domestic objectives.
I mean, that would be, that's just an obvious one.
It would poison all of our relationships with, you know, other countries.
Like, we're still trying to negotiate, you know, other wars.
Like, we're still trying to negotiate Russia, Ukraine.
That's going to be totally off the table, you know, if we bomb Iran.
China is going to absolutely sour on us even harder than they already are.
There's not going to be a possibility of a better deal,
and we've shut the door on that Iran deal, if that's the case.
So, yeah, there are no good outcomes out of this,
especially on the domestic fronts.
You know, I mean, I'll say this.
It's just, like I said before,
I was feeling way, way more black-pilled and pissed off
about the situation three days ago than I am now,
particularly the last couple days
seems like
oh okay
the longer we wait on this stuff
the less likely it is that we're actually
going to go and like full blown strike and
invade or do any of the shit
so the more time gets away from this stuff
the more time we can shift the agenda over
to something else and just forget
about all this shit
do you know the one thing we have to really
remember is that an attack on
Iran is just another
attack on Russia and China.
So
if Israel wants to do
this, let them do it.
There's no reason for us to get involved.
We already have a proxy
war going on with, you know,
against Russia that
you know, we can't seem to
even if we wanted to get out of
it'll continue, the euros
will continue it and we'll still get blamed
for it because they'll say we started
it. So I mean,
the further we can get away from this stuff, the better.
I don't think Trump is doing,
I don't think Trump would do this because he's owned by the Israelis.
I think that is such a friggin,
it's almost like a reverse boomer con thing at this point when I hear it.
People say that.
It's almost like a dissident right boomerism of,
oh, Trump is owned by the Israelis.
he's a fucking boomer who he's a boomer who his whole life has been told that iran is the enemy and they can't get a they can't get a um shouldn't be allowed to have a nuke and they took our people hostage in 1979 he probably doesn't know the name mosa deck i mean i'm fucking i'm just bored with the whole what with the whole israel thing and yeah i think that he is just that fucking naive about things
things that he shouldn't be involved in.
I was on a space the other night
with someone who was saying,
Benjamin Netanyahu and Trump are best friends.
They like love each other and everything.
And I'm like, look.
How are these people real?
Well, I mean, well, guess what he was.
Guess what he was.
And I'm going, I had to tag Stormy
and let Stormy just go after these people.
And it was just beautiful.
But yeah, it's just, I mean,
I'm so sick of the
everything is this grand conspiracy
and it's like fucking people can't even
they can't even keep trains on tracks anymore
it's just retarded
yeah on that point like let's let's
let's not forget
Trump slammed the door in BB's face
every single time he came to Washington
like BB came to Washington
like five times in the past
like ever since
the election in November, he's come to Washington
to have a meeting with Trump to talk
about Iran. And every single time
the door has been slammed in his face.
And the outcome
of that is like, yeah, no, we're not, we're not doing this.
We're not doing this.
That happened literally five times.
So yeah,
we do got to give Trump credit for that. He's
smarter than he lets off.
Let's play another clip. And the Mike Waltz,
in the Mike Walt situation,
he fired Mike Waltz for fucking
for Israel.
And that's a good point too.
And Cash Patel fired a few people
for spying for Israel, though they never said it
was Israel as kind of obvious.
The administration has been very
good at cutting out Israel
from influence, which is
why it's weird that Trump just
for a few days, at least, seemed like he was
buying what Benji was selling, and then did nothing,
thank God.
Let's listen into another clip
from Tech Cruz here.
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Silly conversation. I know all this. I know all this.
The question is, are Apex goals
shaped by the goals of the Israeli government
to any extent? Okay, that's a really
simple question. It's a simple question.
Are Apex goals shaped
by the goals of the Israeli government?
And I'm just going to ask you a question straightforwardly.
And if you say no, I think we both know, that's not true.
Hey, are they shaped by? Is that it?
Are they coordinating with the Israeli
government?
Are they talking with them?
Yes, is Israel directing them.
You want to talk about FARA, the law on lobbying on behalf of someone.
It is, I hire you and you lobby on behalf of me.
I direct you.
Does Israel direct APEC?
No, they're not lobbying on behalf of them.
Do they care about them?
Yes, but do you think that it's just interesting because what you're now describing
in a very defensive way, I will say, is foreign influence over our politics.
No.
And you began, and it's so transparently obvious to everybody, I don't know why you'd be
embarrassed of it. You've said that you were sincerely for Israel.
I believe you. I don't think you have some weird agenda.
You seem to be sincere.
By the way, Tucker, it's a very weird
thing. The obsession
with Israel. When we're talking about foreign countries.
It's hardly an obsession. You're not talking about Chinese.
You're not talking about Japanese. You're not talking about the
British. You're not talking about the French. The question, what about
the Jews? Oh, I'm an anti-Semite now.
Senator, you're asking the questions, Tucker. You're asking
why are the Jews controlling
our foreign policy? That's what you just asked.
I am hardly saying that. And I have many
exactly what you just said. Well, actually, I can speak for myself and tell you what I am said.
Good. On behalf, not simply of myself, but on my many Jewish friends who would have the same
questions, which is to what extent, and it's interesting you're trying to derail my questions,
but calling me an anti-Semi, which you are. I did not. Of course you are. And rather than be
honorable enough to say it right to my face, you are in a sleazy feline way implying it,
or just asking questions about the Jews. I'm not asking questions about the Jews. I have,
there's nothing to do with Jews or Judaism. It has to with a foreign government.
Isn't Israel controlling our foreign policy?
That's not about the change.
Shameful performance on Ted Cruz's behalf, first of all.
Again, Tucker, it's just like this, the entire interview, by the way.
If you guys haven't seen it, go and watch it on Tucker's channel.
It's fantastic.
But it's not because he's taking hundreds of millions of dollars from Israel.
It's not because they have pictures of him doing anything.
It's because he is just.
brainwashed into this mindset.
It doesn't have to be anything nefarious. Sure, Jeffrey Epstein existed.
Jeffrey Epstein got powerful people to do stuff.
I'm thinking it was a lot more, a lot of that had more to do with people in like high-ranking
tech positions and stuff like that.
I mean, there were a lot of tech people who were freaking out over that whole thing.
But a Ted Cruz, he doesn't have to be blackmail.
This is just the way these fucking people are trying.
brain to think.
And it's, you know, it has to go.
You know, we always say, well, once we, once we get rid of the boomers, we'll get
rid of the boomer. He's a boomer.
Just, this has to go. These people have to get out of power.
They literally believe anything their APAC person will tell them.
They consider them to be experts. The people who come to them, they consider to be experts.
You just can't say with a straight face that, uh,
To say that A-PAC has no connection at all with the interests of the Israeli government,
you don't even have to go down the line to Tucker Err saying,
even though he's obviously correct of saying that they directly follow the line
with what the Israeli government itself wants.
But, I mean, come on, man.
You can't lie to us, Ted.
You just can't.
This PAC has a singular gold mine, and that is due for the interests of Israel.
Everyone knows this.
Everyone acknowledges this.
And every time that somebody goes to an APAC fundraiser,
they say this themselves.
They have a great big celebration about it at their cocktail parties.
They talk about it on their Twitter account saying how amazing it is that they stand by Israel
and they love the endorsement of Apex.
What are you trying to lie to us for?
Just be fucking honest.
I think the value of this interview is really twofold.
It exposed the kind of politicians that APEC creates, these like lap dogs.
it also exposed
the complete mental insanity
of a certain religious belief system
in this country
and I kind of view this interview
as something of a death kneel
like a death nail
an nail in the coffin for both
from being taken seriously anymore
I mentioned a few shows back
that 2026 is an important year
because I think it's around the time
when boomers start exponentially
passing away
I don't know if it's quite the time when more dying than living.
But I think 2019 was when support for Israel nationally dropped below 50%.
And we're seeing the consequences of that five years later, where this view of like, no, like God orders you to serve this foreign country.
America was created to serve this foreign country as a certain account was saying on Twitter,
nonsense claims like this that are ultimately about selling out your sovereignty to a foreign country.
country and being its servant, they don't work anymore.
They're not popular with anyone under 40.
It's been exposed as not only a theological lie, but a philosophical lie and a political lie.
This is just using our young men to die for divorce that we don't need our benefit from.
And it's the end.
This is, it's dying.
We're finally at the point where it's dying and no longer being taken seriously.
I'm two million people watch this on YouTube alone.
Imagine how many people watched on Tucker's own website and our, how many is spread across Twitter.
Millions of people that only five years ago would have been tossed out of their churches or friend groups for questioning this toxic relationship with a foreign power.
They're not openly questioning it now and talking with people.
The myth is dying.
100%.
I mean, one of the things I wanted to talk about, we didn't have this clip, but it was used throughout the entire interview and as well that odsome character, an evil man, Mark Levin, who has just been frothing at the mouth the last week, screaming at everyone.
of his boomer listeners on Fox News
every night with his monologues,
but this phrase that they like to use
that was clearly crafted in a lab somewhere,
you know, they just keep throwing in everyone's face.
Iranians shout, death to America,
death to America, death to America.
And my simple question in response to that is
how many fucking commie protesters
in downtown LA were literally just screaming that,
not last week,
and nobody is calling for us to like start dropping bombs
on those people over here
when those ones are infinitely more of a three.
threat to the safety and security of not only, you know, Trump's base, but the actual just
stability of the United States in general? Why are none of these people talking about, you know,
literally commie insurrectionists in the middle of the country by the millions of them?
Oh, no, but the Iranians who are 12,000 miles away from the United States, you know, a couple
guys put out an AI video and shot a death to America on there once. It's like, dude, I just
don't fucking care, man. I don't
care. I understand these people aren't my
friends, but I also
understand that they're so far away
and they got their own problems to deal with.
I don't think I ran as a credible
threat against the United States literally at all.
It's never
asked why they chant death to
America, and it's all the shit
we've done for the last 20 years that we're
trying to stop doing it.
We are
presenting ourselves as the
lap dogs of a
of a local power that they're engaged with.
It is a foreign entanglement.
Untangle the foreign entanglement.
They'll probably stop chatting death to America.
Yeah, as a point I made recently,
is like, okay, they're screaming death to America, but why?
It's like, if you know the history,
if you can go back to 1953,
I know their history back to like 1890.
You know, when they were going,
when Western, when European interests were going in there
and stealing mines and taking over mines and the Reuters family,
how the famous publishing house to Reuters family got their money
and we're able to start their, expand their newspaper
and their reporting and everything.
I mean, they've been, they're another one of those countries
that has pretty much been, were treated like an African nation for a long time.
where you just go in there and you extort everything that you possibly can.
The only difference is the African nation literally can't run itself.
So they actually need people there to keep it going.
And it actually enriches a couple people.
Hopefully it maybe helps the population.
But that's not what Iranians are.
Iranians are smart.
They have some of the best engineers in the world, some of the best doctors in the world.
they weren't going to put up with that shit for a long time.
Remember, in 1979, it wasn't a bunch of frigging inbred terrorists that went after the embassy.
It was students.
It was university students.
These weren't stupid people.
And to, if you have, if you consider someone your enemy and you've retreated back to the part where you're just calling them stupid instead of having a healthy respect.
for them and what they can do,
then you're completely out of the game.
And, I mean, I don't
even really know how to deal with people like that.
100%. Yeah.
I mean, the problem with colonialism
is you can't colonize
a people who are already civilized.
I mean, Persia
is a civilization
that's 4,000 years old.
It'll probably exist for another
4,000 years in one shape or form
or another. These people have been
civilized for
millennias.
They are not
an African backwaters still
who haven't invented the wheel
yet.
Again, you can watch my stream with
my good friend hitman on our series on
our end. Yeah, definitely.
People go check that out. But yeah,
so this is a fantastic
interview. Tucker really just knocked it
out of the park, but this one, all the
shameful, you know,
normal faces that you see, like
the characters at the Babylon B,
and Mark Levin and Eric Erickson,
all these other twats,
you know, a bunch of like politicians as well.
We're ducking on him for this.
Like, you know, oh, well, how could you say this or whatever?
It's just, yeah, Tucker just knocked out of the park with this one.
I'm glad that everyone is seeing the, you know,
charade for what it is.
You know, these people like Ted Cruz,
they're trying to waste American blood and money.
Again, I'm one of these useless foreign wars.
It's just going to get us absolutely nothing.
Yeah, this.
opinion is just rapidly going the way of the dinosaur and is on literally like political life
support, which honestly is good news for people like us because honestly what you're seeing
from all these people, Israel included, the whole Israel lobby, the neocons, everything.
What you're seeing here is a loss of control, not a show of strength.
And at least that's something that we can all, you know, do a slight bit of a victory lap on.
I mean, there's definitely going to be a time lapse on this for sure.
You know, we've got some time yet until, you know, the actual A.
demographic of the Republican Party shifts more to the younger guys direction who just don't
care about this stuff. But at least we have that to look forward to on the horizon. But once again,
we must stress to everyone that chimping out works. It has been abundantly clear that the,
at least some parts of the administration, do watch what is going on on this side of Twitter
specifically and on the internet. So continue to make your voices heard on this one. We do not want
involvement in this war. We do not want
involvement in the Middle East. We do not
want involvement with Iran in any way, shape, or form.
We need to focus on what is going on here. Domestically,
some people have already been pointing this out in the chat,
and no doubt, it surely
cannot be a coincidence that
Israel decides to pull all of the shit with Iran.
We have to attack now, right when
all of the focus was on domestic issues
here at home with stuff like the
riots from our Mexican invaders
in the United States. There are causing
problems. So,
We must focus on what is happening at home.
We do not have the time or the energy or even any strategic goals to be found in this region.
Yeah, just to just throw this, just to echo something I was saying earlier,
tests have been done in the past couple of years.
Average IQ in Iran is anywhere between 106 and 110.
It's pretty high.
That's like seventh highest in the world.
So.
Yeah. All righty.
Why don't we move on?
Speaking of what is going on on the domestic front and Pete, feel free to drop out whenever you have your heart out, my friend.
But speaking of an issue on the domestic front, one of the things they are trying to sneak through through all these bills that are going on currently being debated in the Senate and the House.
And it's definitely being pushed most off by Senator Mike Lee, based.
Mike Lee, apparently.
There is a, you know,
section in this bill
to sell off approximately
3 million acres of American public land.
All right. And allegedly,
this is going to be used for housing.
Allegedly, this is going to be used
for middle rights, whatever the hell it's going
to be used for. This is
bullshit, and we shouldn't be allowing this.
Again, one of the three issues that the OGC
is focusing on the most throughout this
election cycle and throughout the Trump residency.
Number three on that list was
energy independence and protection of all of our wild spaces and our lands.
There is no reason for us to be selling off three million acres of American land to allegedly
put up affordable housing on.
We've all talked about this many times on this show, but we do not have a housing problem
in America.
We have a people problem in America.
If you actually go through with mass deportations, it solves all the housing issues
literally overnight, especially if you combine that with actually tackling the crime
problem so people can actually live in houses and homes close to our inner cities like people
used to instead of just endlessly going through circuit after circuit of white flight and
handing over suburbs to various minority groups.
I mean, there's some cities in America we're literally on like the third generation of
this white flight stuff where people are commuting ever further and further away from major
city centers.
If you just fix the crime problems and you actually initiate mass deportations, which is the
number one issue that the Trump team and the Trump administration was elected on, you fix all of our housing problems.
Literally all of them. So don't give me any of this bullshit of we need to have more affordable housing.
Not to mention that the United States is lowering its fertility rate, you know, as Elon Musk is constantly talking about.
So we don't need more housing. We don't need more cheap housing. We don't need to cut down our beautiful evergreen forests to put up more housing for H-1Bs.
Fuck this. This is not anything to do with conservatism or conservation.
which is a right-wing issue.
This is completely indefensible.
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today you know you know just just doing basic math you said three million acres
uh three million acres are being sold yeah yeah if you sold that at the average cost of land right
now you would make at most 54 billion dollars that is less than one percent of the 40 trillion
debt it's not it's not worth it if if you wanted to magically sell all
federal land to cover the debt of $40 trillion.
You would have to sell it at $65,000 an acre, which is 15 times the price of private land.
Who's going to buy it?
This is all mathematically mythical.
None of the numbers make sense.
None of it works.
It's just to benefit BlackRock.
There's no actual way the numbers work in any way, realistically, to deal with $40 trillion in debt.
It's a myth.
The other problem with this is this absolute bold-faced lie that some people are throwing out there that, oh, well, this is just going to be used for housing and that's it.
You know, well, number one, you can't just put houses up in the middle of rural Idaho and then ship people back to San Francisco where the jobs are, right?
That's not how this works.
You have to have an entire infrastructure for people actually live their lives there.
So you don't just create this place for housing.
You have to tear down more force to put up things like schools and fire departments and police stations and supermarkets and gas stations and all of the other amenities that people actually need to live their lives.
This is bullshit.
You're not putting up random spots in the middle of, you know, like the mountains of Colorado or something.
This is all a lie.
You're not doing this for housing.
What you're doing this for is for your special interest groups, most notably Black Rock and Thank you,
for mentioning that, to put up a bunch of giant resorts or for other political donors to have
their mountain houses in the middle of like the Cascades or something that can go vacation to.
You're not, we're not going to profit off of this.
Like you were saying, Gradyji, you make $50 billion at most, which is just an absolute drop in the bucket of the United States actually making money.
And then on top of that, let's actually just say, okay, just buy magic.
Let's just say that they made $20 trillion off of this deal.
The land is worth that much, right?
Is that really what we want to be setting the precedent for that, oh, to solve America's problems,
we need to cause more issues and sell out more of our country's heritage and our history
for the next generation of children?
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Not to mention, who are the buyers for this?
We already have a huge issue with the Chinese buying up huge swats of American farmland.
don't tell me that this is just going to go to
good, hardworking Americans
who just want to build housing.
I'm not buying it for a second
and this is bullshit and should be stopped.
It should be.
Yeah, and again, strategic chimping.
We have to be strategically chimping on this
because this issue is more important
to the future of the United States
than any conflict in the Middle East.
You know, if we don't, if we don't
solve our domestic issues,
and sell off our inheritance to fucking trillion dollar corporations?
What kind of country are we at the end of the day?
I mean, the red woods and the Pacific Northwest and, you know,
the mountains of Montana and Utah and Nevada are, they're priceless.
They're priceless.
Okay, and if there's affordable housing, like, where are the jobs?
people move to places where there are jobs and then build housing
not you build the housing first and then the jobs come over
that that's just not how the civilization works
I really hate this shit and I've seen so many people
Mike Lee included but other politicians just saying
well just theoretically imagine if you had a bunch of land
that hasn't actually been used has been owned by the government since 1860
a bunch of fucking libertarians been talking about this too
saying, well, the government technically shouldn't be owning everything.
We could actually just develop stuff out of this
and start turning this land into an economic unit.
Wouldn't that be great?
No, it wouldn't be great.
America is the foundation of modern conservation movements.
The Anglos invented it.
Americans perfected it.
This is as American heritage as you could possibly get
the preservation of protection of wild lands and wild spaces,
which is a right for every American.
Teddy Roosevelt himself spoke about this greatly,
when he sectioned off millions by millions of acres for the establishment of national parks
and national prairies and forests and wetlands and everything like this.
Part of what makes America great is the great American road trip going out into the wilderness,
seeing America is the only country on the entire planet that has every single biome in it.
Everything.
We have forests.
We have forests.
We have sea to shining sea, deciduous forests.
We've got river valleys.
We've got the Arctic.
We have everything in this country.
All of it. And it's the only place in the world where you can experience it.
This is ours. This isn't to be sold.
This isn't something that we can just, you know, at the strike of a pen, sign over a bunch of land development so they can put a bunch of housing up for a bunch of jeets.
No. This is ours.
Amen. And let's be real. Any housing they develop is just going to be filled up with foreigners when the Democrats come in.
Further inflating areas to the Democrat vote in the electoral.
college right before a census too that this can be a major backstab yeah if we don't succeed in the
deportation agenda the next democratic administration is going to fill these is going to fill these
places with jeets and we we all we all know that 100% it's no coincidence that they are
purchasing off plenty of these places in a lot of the red states in the west places like
Idaho, places like Wyoming, places like Montana, Nevada, and Arizona.
We know this game.
We know it's being played here.
We know you're not going to make money off of it.
That's anything remotely close to a dip in the budget.
This is just for special interests, and that's it.
There's no argument that can be made to justify this.
And if you are an American, if you're a conservationist, if you're on the right of
any kind. It's our job to preserve our home. Nobody else will do it. It's got to be us.
And I have received word from plenty of people in high up places. Pete was talking about his
sources that he's received as it relates to the conflicts going on in the Middle East.
Plenty of my sources have been talking about how chimping out about this and people calling
into their congressmen and representatives has created a buzz at the state and on the national
level, especially on the hill.
So this one needs
extreme strategic chimping out right now
from everybody involved.
Call up your senators, especially if you're
out west where these
purchases are said
to occur right now.
Get a hold of people.
Once the stuff is gone,
we're not going to get it back.
And when you call them, remember
you're talking to a child,
have simple numbers
or go for the big scary numbers, if you
want and explain to them
in simple terms with big scary numbers
this will not fix the debt
this will not fix anyone's
financial problems
it will create an incentive to flood it
with new Democrat
voters, illegals
and it will inflate the electoral college
because again the census counts illegals
and awards electoral college votes to the biggest
illegal populations
it will destroy, just tell Republicans
you are not going to get
reelected if there's 20,000
Democrats flood into these houses, giving more electoral colleges, it's not going to work.
You're selling yourself as much as the land.
They may not care about the land being sold because they're awful people.
They may care if they realize, oh, you're actually selling away your own votes,
and you're not going to be able to get reelected in five or six years when the Democrats come in and flood it.
Yeah, that's the only thing they care about.
And this issue is the perfect issue for the OGC and, of course, for our president, Red Hawk.
this issue is perfect because
however much you want to black pill
about the Middle East and Iran
that's not really
we're not in control
and we don't have
a lot of influence on that issue
we definitely have people who agree
with us
but this is
an issue where
active involvement
and civic engagements
and just talking to your local
officials is something you can do
and is something you will have an impact on.
It's very easy to persuade a local,
to persuade a local official, official or congressman on anything,
because people don't talk to them.
And if they get just a,
if they get just like the slightest bit of pushback
from a reasonably large number of people,
which is not that many, like 100 emails
or 100 phone calls, which is nothing.
We can do that in a day.
They will feel that this is a much bigger issue
to their voters,
than it might otherwise be.
100%.
This is a issue we've talked about many times on the show
that the left has literally just handed this issue
over to the right on a silver platter
because they surrendered this to retard activists
like Gruditomburg and the climate change
Yahoo's like Al Gore saying that the world is going to be destroyed
in 10 minutes unless we get rid of all cars and farting cows.
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Conservation and actual preservation of the natural world.
Number one has always been a right-wing and conservative issue.
And number two, the crown is literally in the gutter on this topic.
This is absolutely one of the issues that we can make some serious hayway on
if we get our act together.
So get involved.
Get involved in your local outdoor sports.
get involved in enjoying the great national parks and national forests that America has to offer
and call up your local politicians because once this land is sold, there's no way we're getting it back.
And if you're a scared little zoomer afraid to call on this thing you call a telephone,
you can always send an email and, you know, throw it through a few screenshots of how people are reacting to this.
Well, you know, censor out any explicit words, keep it Christian.
but yeah make
make people feel like
the numbers don't make sense
you're not going to get voted in
and this is going to be an election issue
it's like actually people care
about the land in this country
it's already occupied by illegals and drug makers
we don't need more foreigners in our parks
just be nice
be thorough
be scary with numbers
not with words
and email if you're afraid to call
the calling works a lot better
but email if you're afraid to call
know who the senator
and congresspersons
and contacts are. It's not hard
to look this up online. It's all
this is going to be done on a weekend in an hour.
It's not hard.
Don't tell yourself lies that
you can't do it. It doesn't matter or
don't get leased.
100%.
All right. Let's move on
to our final story of the
evening and then we'll go through some of these
super chats and we'll get out of here.
So this final story, this is just a weird one.
And this one is just going to get filed into the long list of stories that we will just never, ever get an answer to.
But quietly, while all this Israel and Iran stuff was going on and selling out our homeland to real estate developers and other grifters,
a politician in Minnesota was literally shot and killed in her home.
And this was the character responsible.
This guy, Vance Bolter.
Um, you know, so
walk me through this one, guys,
because what a, what a
strange story?
Chris, please take it away.
Uh, yeah, so
you know, this guy looks like a red
letter media producer,
Rich Everett's still at large.
Uh, no,
I mean, like, so this guy is really weird
and there's been a lot of contradictory stuff.
The left is saying he's a white
supremacist, but like, he did
mission trips to build wells in Africa.
And the right...
Trump supporter.
Yeah, the right is saying that he's a far-left guy,
but he is like kind of a hack, corporate hack.
I mean, listen, he could just be a schizophrenic,
but I think it's a sci-off.
I think it's pretty obviously a sci-op.
He wore a mask and everything.
They could have stalked this on literally anybody
if they didn't have the incriminating data,
like his car, escape vehicle, and name and address.
It seems like, to be quite honestly,
it smells like a false flag that went
wrong. I was reading how the
unfortunately
murdered state
congresswoman her house was broken
into after the murder
while the cops were there
which is kind of really suspicious.
What's being, you have to wonder what evidence
is being destroyed but
the left's argument doesn't make
sense because this guy shot the people, the only
Congress people voting with MAGA agenda
so like well if you're like a far right guy you would think you wouldn't go out to the people
voting with MAGA. It's kind of dumb.
And the right argument, I don't even know what the right argument is, really, that he's like a left.
I don't know, but this guy is from a security company.
He's done operations for various NGOs in Africa.
He knows his way with weapons and escaping things in Africa.
It's pretty obvious that he's, how can I say this?
I know very wealthy Democrats in New York, and they have handlers who have similar backgrounds to this.
And they're there with their connections.
And you know that their role involves flowing information and contacts behind the scenes of the very wealthy Democrat guy behind their back.
And I don't know how they get trusted.
It's kind of weird how these people get these roles.
But figures like this exist.
This is a cleanup guy.
And he did not get away with it.
Things are going to be disappearing about his information.
records will be burned
I mean this is conspiracy
I will openly admit to you
this is a conspiracy theory
that I am telling you
I'm not saying that this is a fact
I'm not saying that there's much evidence
for this fact
I am saying my gut is telling me
this is a cleanup guy
you know this is someone that works
in between state and federal levels
to clean up messes
Minnesota is they're losing
the Democrats are losing Minnesota
that's what's happening
and this is a cleanup guy
designed to terrorize
and control the failing
Democrat Party of Minnesota because it's
somewhere they want to flood immigrants into and replace
the domestic population and still
votes for them. Excuse
me.
Yeah, Craiggie, if I could
just add, go ahead. I'm going to
call it. Yeah, it's so much
weirder than, then, I mean,
all of that, all of that, I believe is true. I 100%
believe all of that. But it's, the situation
just gets so much weirder because
well, first of all, he's shot,
it's alleged that he's shot to
state senators.
the two state centers of Minnesota
that voted with the Republicans
on the Minnesota budget,
which according to Twitter,
you know,
everything here is according to Twitter.
But in the state budget,
it's,
it defunded health care for illegal migrants.
And that means the fucking Somalis of Minnesota
aren't getting free health care anymore.
But the other thing is like,
there was another leak or something.
That's like,
one of the stories I saw was,
His wife was a staffer for Tim Walls?
You know, the Kamala Harris VP.
Is that true or is that just like Twitter BS?
But both him and his wife, as far as I'm aware, were...
I don't think they were staffers, but they were in government roles.
Again, because...
They were appointed by Tim Walls.
These people are kind of the people that are above rank and file politics.
They are cleanup people.
They don't really have politics of themselves.
I mean, this guy had pro-life and pro-choice people on his hit list.
He had No King's posters.
You know, I'm not sure if the No King's posters were in his escape vehicle or in the vehicle of one of the people he shot.
That was one of the contradictions in the Twitter sphere that I couldn't resolve.
Regardless, he could have put them there.
It seems very, if I had a guess, this is someone who's playing the role of cleaning up people willing to vote for Trump's policies on the left,
while also sticking it on the far left.
But that's my suspicion.
But then again, CNN ran with him being against, like, shooting abortion providers,
even though he had pro-life people on the list also.
And then they said at first there was a manifesto,
and then the police said, no, there's no manifesto, actually.
Everything here says that he is being cleaned up now.
The cleanup man is being cleaned up.
things about him are going to start
disappearing
and there already are
I mean this
this
story just completely
missed all of the major headlines
aside from when it literally broke
on Friday
and then it just got completely drowned out
by the rest of everything
that was going on the news cycle
because in all likelihood
they had someone lined up
to take the fall for this
that wasn't going to be him
and I remember correctly
his wife was also arrested
with ammo and passports
in her car
So this is a dual job between the husband and wife.
Pretty soon within a few days,
you're only going to be able to find stuff about this guy using archived.org
and or various Russian archiving sites, which are suspicious.
You got a quick scene of the dirty side of politics at the state level.
Learn from it.
You probably won't be able to learn much pretty soon.
And just keep in the back of your head and watch out for people like that.
They exist in every state Congress in this country.
They serve people not in the government, but connected to the government.
And they clean up when states start to fall away from the power of people that want to destroy us.
There are hundreds of men like this man.
And their role is to two part.
One part is to clean up the mess.
Second part is to make everyone afraid to cause the mess again.
His role was to kill the people who were threatening Minnesota's Democrat base.
within the party and terrorize any other Democrats that might vote for MAGA in the future.
Like I said, there was likely someone will never know who was being set up to take the fall for this.
Maybe they were recruiting someone on Discord.
Maybe they were recruiting someone who knows.
We'll never know who was designed to set this up because he got caught in the cleanup job.
So now he has to take the fall and be erased rather than whoever they had set up to take this fall.
We don't, we will never know who was designed to take the fall for these hits.
That's why he wore a mask.
That's why he was undercover.
It's why he had all these conveniently provided tools of the trade,
you know, fake police officer.
How do you get a police car?
How do you get a police uniform?
You'll never know.
It'll be a race from history
and the police will be told not to investigate it.
But you have seen here a small hole
into the dark side of politics.
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Let's hope and pray that.
I don't know how much stock we should put in cash Patel.
well let's hope
let's hope something does come out of that
and like if he if he's
even a hint of our kind of guy
which is a heart cell
I know but
if that if he is if he is who he claims
to be we can
then there's there needs to be something
that comes out of this from the FBI
yeah
the only um final thing I will say
on this story is
um just expect more of this
is all I'll say I mean
with the two assassination attempts on Donald Trump's life last year to the
Luigi Mangione incident in New York and now this combination with all the leftist
violence throughout the weekends of protesting that we just have over the last couple of
weeks I mean now just be more prepared for this kind of stuff the left are getting
more and more radical and more violent in this country so watch out keep your
head on those little out there guys. We have three and a half more years of this.
I will also remind everyone listening that people like this man exist in the Republican side of
the deep site, the deep state too. And you can be sure one will be visiting Ted Cruz soon.
Not for anything physical, but there will be things discussed. You will never know,
but you will see Ted Cruz. Things about him will be cleaned up for his failure.
Yep. Absolutely. All right, jens. Let's, um, let's, um, let's see Ted Cruz. Um, let's see.
Let's go through the super chats.
Hopefully my voice and stuffiness will carry me through it.
But we also have a couple from last week as it was a premiere last week
because we ran into some issues with weather and everything,
getting the streamcast it properly.
So from last week, Mando Spam for 10 bucks.
Looks like I got here first in a not so sophisticated way,
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Oh, all right, cool.
So we got some Illinois guys out here.
Oh, Mandel Spam is actually
the guy said all of these actually
For ten bucks he says
Was hoping to see some deportations
Well, we're all hoping to see some deportations
Every single day
One of the things that we can say actually
Is we were talking about this last week
Donald Trump's tweet
Which was a bit of a feeler out for
Talking about
Oh well, we need to have exemptions
For our hardworking farmers
And other industries for illegal immigrants
And then immediately walk that
back a few days later and launched a huge
huge ice raid on a meat pack
packing plant. So again
one of the themes of the show today is
chimping works. Just do it strategically
and do it correctly, but
chimping does absolutely work.
If I just add, just
to extend that super chat
a little bit more, I'm
not sure if I can independently corroborate
this, but the New York Post
did report, and I think
Uncle Jared shared it on his
Twitter account. Everyone should know
I'm talking about when I say Uncle Jared.
I keep forgetting he's back on Twitter.
It's pretty wild, yeah.
If you've been on Twitter, it's pretty wild to see him back.
Not to interrupt you hunger, but did you guys see who else came back to Twitter over the weekend?
There's like a blast from the past.
Old Stefan Molyneux is back on Twitter.
Yeah, and he's tweeting up a storm.
It's 2017 all over again.
Yeah, really?
I loved how one of his first tweets back was an egg carton meme.
It's like this fucking guy.
He's been watching.
Classic. But yeah, like, sorry, the New York Post did report
800,000
voluntary deportations.
800,000 people have voluntarily
deported themselves from the United States.
And like that's, I mean, that's still rookie numbers, but
God damn. Yeah, that's like four times as many people as we've actually
deported.
I gave numbers a few streams back that we need to be deporting
$2 million a year to make up for the loss of the boomers.
So that does put us on track to keep in track with the loss of the boomers dying off so far.
It has to keep up like that.
You have to hit 2 million by the end of the year.
But if we're at a million at June, we're actually just breaking even.
Or we're just at the breaking even point.
It has to go further.
It's much more successful than even I thought it would be.
I mean, obviously it's not enough.
It'll never be enough until we hit literally 50 million.
at the current rate we will simply be where we were when Trump took office the second time
we won't actually undo Biden's importees we'll just be where we were at the point of Trump
taking office in 2025 that that's all we'll be well uh hopefully if there's one person
I trust in Trump's cabinet it is Stephen Miller because that man hasn't opened his mouth once
on the Iran-Israel conflict and you'd think him of all people given his background would have
something to say about that, but no, this man
is just autistically dedicated
to one thing, like a T-1000,
his protocol is only to deport
immigrants. This is his only job.
And my God, thank you.
He did tweet one thing
about that crisis vaguely
and then shut up about it immediately
for the rest of the week.
He knows, he knows the weather.
Okay, he knows that
he is at a point where
Israel is at the lowest support in living memory.
He knows that he has to focus on this country.
I mean, we all know he doesn't believe in hyphenated Americans, thank God.
But even if he was like, even if he felt something for Israel, I don't think he likes
Netanyahu.
There are things that make me say he's not a fan of Netanyahu.
He obviously cares for Israel, but he knows to shut up.
And like, this is not the focus at this time.
There is a national crisis.
I have to fix this country first.
I forget who said it, but it's definitely a contender for tweets.
of the year. It actually might have been
Oran McIntyre. I think you
launched this tweet. Maybe you remember
Gringy, but the tweet was something to the
effect of Stephen Miller has done more to
combat anti-Semitism than
the ADL, SPLC,
all these places combined.
100%.
And God bless him.
Yeah, God bless him.
Somebody in the chat said it at J-1000.
Yeah, he's literally like
He cannot be stopped. He cannot be
reason that he will support.
Yeah. Absolutely
will not stop. Feels
no pain or remorse.
Amazing.
God,
you just remember in like a T2
like Robert Patrick would like
he would shoot the 9 mil
he had or the M9 in that movie. He wouldn't
blink when he's shot because he just wanted to look like a machine.
Do you get to see those like gig and Chad memes?
Like the people who think of Stephen Miller with like his head like out of pointing down
his eyes like him up.
It's literally him.
Amazing.
All right.
Let's get back to these superjats.
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The moment actual states
to split off and form their own countries,
are you creating the conditions for a civil war
or reunification war later on?
The idea of national divorce will never be permanent.
Yeah, I mean, this is one of those
libertarian and anarchist ideas
that I'm ashamed that I ever once thought
it was like a good idea many, many years ago.
But no, like, I'm okay with expanding the borders of the United States,
but, you know, breaking up the nation, fuck no.
I'm not surrendering even one inch of this place to the commie menace.
No way.
All right.
Moving on to the super chats from this actual stream.
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You know what, if people aren't following Quirgy's Twitter account, you really should
because the man makes someone like the best propaganda on our side of the thing.
I always have to emphasize my Twitter account is more arrogant and bellicose than I really am.
And I have to fix that.
I'm going to try to cool down.
Now that I think it seems that Trump, after his little luncheon with Bannon and a few other friends,
realizes that he's being played in Iran.
I don't think it's going to happen.
Maybe we'll get a bunker buster,
but I don't think he's going to get involved.
So now I'm going to cool down.
I'm going to go back to my Stephen Miller simping
and less of my Israel jaccusing.
It's okay.
We love you as you are.
Don't worry about that.
I mean, Tucker did say he had a call with Trump the day before the cruise interview.
I will say this.
I mean, if we were, like, if we had this stream, like, on Tuesdays instead of Thursdays, if we had this two days earlier, I would be acting way, way more pissed off at Trump than I was today.
I mean, you did call the two-day rule.
I did.
And it was extremely wise.
I mean, I publicly said in Twitter, look, I don't think this is happening, but I'm going to chimp out because it's important that the visuals of chipping out over going to war again are important to punish the GOP and to even consider.
considering it. They need to be punished because even bringing this up is punishable.
I still don't think it's going to happen, but I will continue to chimp out until it's pretty, I mean, maybe not so much.
I think it's clear we've won this argument.
But continue chimping out. You must chimp out. You must make it a public menace.
You have to make the GOP feel, oh shit, if I keep going on this route, I'm fucked in 2026.
Do not chimp. Do not chimp. I'm going to chimp.
I'm going to chip.
But just on that point, again,
tactical, strategic chimping.
There are some things,
the way you chimp is very important.
And this is something we should really get into.
The way you chimp is very important.
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No.
You never call him Israel's bitch.
You never call him Zion Dawn.
This is unacceptable.
This is about influence and persuasion.
you do not influence and persuade the people on your side by insulting them.
Exactly.
Insulting people is what enemies do.
Yeah.
All you have to do is do something extremely simple like we did not vote for this.
That's it.
That's all you have to do.
You can be more tactful than that.
Use other choice words.
But just something that can just write to the point.
This is not what the base wants.
I always say, be scary with numbers, not with words.
yeah good advice
side note
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I'm sure we've all seen the Tucker episode by now.
Damn right, we have.
It's great that Neocond Disvinationalist Insanity
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Props to Tucker for staying composed.
I'd be livid.
Salute.
Oh yes.
Very good interview.
If people haven't seen it,
go out of your way to go and watch it.
It's certainly entertaining.
I mean, sometimes some of Tucker's episodes
can be a little bit of a slog to get through,
but this one was very, very entertaining.
It was pretty much back and forth the entire time.
it was yeah it was it was it was just so funny i mean
crews was sweating at on multiple occasions
it was it was incredible to watch
absolutely
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i love there's like a bidding war for first super chat now
as for the recent goings on it's almost like trump is a boomer
new york city real estate developer in a sense of values
reflects that you get you get the good and the bad i mean
again here's another thing we've been talking about and
Something we've been mentioning just from the absolute very beginning about all this and the whole Trump cycle of everything is, you know, we're under no illusions that nobody but God is coming to save us.
All right.
But we'll take more we can get with this administration.
There's certainly been quite a few wins that we've gathered thus far.
And with some strategic chimping, we can continue to turn those wins into future wins.
But one of the things I have to stress about this, and we were talking about this actually quite a bit on D's Twitter space, the last week, essentially.
is you win yourself no favors by immediately saying on like Sunday,
Donald Trump will betrayed us and it's all over.
Because now you look like an absolute retard and you have egg on your face
like four days later.
It's like you have no room to actually talk right now anymore.
There's no reason for the administration to listen to you if you're going to say,
okay, well, I'm jumping ship now immediately before like any action has even really occurred.
That's not strategic chimping.
don't go after
Yeah
Yeah
Because now it's just like
Oh okay
Everyone who like wrote these giant long Twitter threads
Or like Dave Smith announcing like
Oh I'm now
Disavowing Donald Trump and stuff
Not that I really care too much about what like
Libertarians and stuff say
But it's just
Like don't fall for emotionalism
And any of this crap
I mean I tweeted out like the three day rules and effect
And boy oh boy was that a fantastic take
I mean
Relax people
Well be smart
If you actually
care about political theory
and Caesarism,
there's a very simple medieval rule.
The king is never wrong.
He only ever has bad advisors.
Very true. Very true.
It's just how...
All right.
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Our ancestors planted trees under whose shade
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Yes, very, very true.
It's also been interesting on that topic of selling out America's land.
Of course, like many issues, there was a huge generational gap and divide on that one, of course.
Amazingly, not all surprising at all, the young people of America don't want their nation, their heritage, their people to be sold out,
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I watched Zulu today.
It's my Juneteenth tradition.
It's a great idea.
I should do that.
It was a good idea.
I saw this amazing, man, I was very proud of this tweet earlier today.
One of these guys on one of these subways was like one of these TikTok dances.
And this guy just Spartan kicks him right out at the subway just as the door is closed.
the guys running after him with his shoe off,
and I was just like, happy Juneteenth, everyone.
Oh, that's, I think, I think I shared that tweet of yours.
He was ass mad.
It was incredible to see.
It was probably in New York subway.
Yeah, could be, could be.
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I mean, a good mutual of mine, a Samarian pervert, is constantly tweeting out, like, just pictures of three gorgeous dam as, like, quote tweets under any, like, Chinese account or any time, like, someone speaks.
It's just one picture of the dam.
It's like, hmm, yeah.
For a nice looking dam you got there, it would be a real shame if someone was to, you know, do something to it.
Yeah, really funny, TK.
Nice work.
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I don't know. I
just don't like it. I can't
there's no way you can tell me that this has
been like an all out
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There's no way. There's been some people who have been like
trusted planning on this one and I
just can't see how you can say that when
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Plenty of videos where BB has said the exact same line
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Yeah.
It is nice to see that
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for their shtick anymore.
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I've yet to hear a competent explanation
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Yeah, that's a good point too.
You were saying, Krogy.
What was the last question?
I had a thought and then it went out the window
once we started doing that next is a super chat?
Iraq playbook, not playing the same way in 2025?
Yeah, like I said,
supportive Israel has dropped below the 50% percentile in recent years,
and it's not coming back in this generation.
They have a generational PR game to fix their massive screw-up,
and I think we have to recognize that these events are all because
one guy, BB, is about to go to jail,
and he does a what to.
And their entire NGO
special interest network
no longer has popular support
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special interest group.
They are no longer the
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foreign interest group now
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Dispensationalism died out
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Yeah, and that's the thing.
It's not even neutrality.
It's active animosity now.
Where, like, there's going to come a time within the next election or two
where having APEC money will be a negative.
You will only win if you don't have APEC money.
And they're afraid of that day because it's coming pretty soon.
If it's not going to be the next election, it will be the one after that.
Where, like, people will look.
Like, they used to look up, is the NRA funding you?
Or, like, is the Planned Parenthood funding you?
That was like the left-right divide.
It will now be, is APEC funding you?
Oh, you're for interest.
Okay, bye.
I'm not voting for you.
Bye.
And parties are going to have to start dealing with that.
that dynamic. And the
older members of those parties don't like that
because they don't know how to negotiate
this. They don't know how to navigate
these waters at all.
And like that is
the situation where it should be
pressed into going forward.
We can't do it in 2026 of course because the
boomers are still significantly around and
they're still, they're no longer the largest,
they're not even the largest age group anymore.
Millennials took that I think two years ago or so.
And millennials are like, they kind of
they don't care about anything.
but like you're saying, the zoomers and Alfa are coming up,
they actively hate this country because of the nonsense that's going on.
If Israel had just accepted, like, taken the L after Iraq
and just been like, oh, I guess we have to do good PR,
we're peaceful for a decade.
They could have dealt with like a generational apathy,
but now they have to deal with generational animosity.
And that is something that they do not know how to navigate.
It's already been, it's already happening.
And we've been seeing the effect of this ever since.
10-7.
Very true.
Memphis
for
five bucks, a California
journalist finally caught the zodiac in the act.
Yeah.
It was always such a strange meme
that came up like around
Ted Cruz, weird one.
Our good friend, Melon,
for five bucks,
says, check out Hitman on Twitter
and YouTube for Background on Iran.
Well, you were talking about that.
quite a bit hunger. There you go. As well
as the millennial cultural stream
with myself and Michael Paul. Next
one coming soon. Oh, there you go, guys.
Check out more fellow friends.
Mellon, great friend
of the Delaware Crossing Society and
a true Pennsylvania Patriots,
the Tom Bombadil
of Pennsylvania, as we like to call him.
It really is.
Just like a character out of Tolkien.
He quite literally is. I had the pleasure
of meeting him recently.
And Rico Palazzo,
again for 20 bucks. Ted, let's change
the subject to pit tangentially.
Why did you get to kill JFK?
Some good jokes in here tonight.
Good work, guys.
A good friend Son of Haster from the new Ivy League sends us
five bucks in a salute. Thank you very much, sir.
Always appreciated.
The one woman in the chat,
Don Browning, sends us a super sticker
as she does every week. Thank you very
much. It looks like a
gaming controller of someone.
kind going, who-woo. All right.
I dig it. Gamer's rise up, most
of press minority.
All right.
gamers and smokers.
Yeah, indeed.
A friend from north of the border,
Jimmy Thomas, for seven bucks,
Canadian,
which is what, like two American dollars
at this point or something?
Huh? Yeah.
Yeah, ha-ha. But
Iran was in the top ten civilian
deaths per capita in World War II.
They were neutral. They have reasons
to hate the West. Really? I didn't know that.
Yeah, look up the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran.
Really?
Yeah, literally a joint invasion of Iran by the British and the Soviet Union.
Oh, interesting. I know about that.
That's why the Tehran Conference was in 1942.
Hmm. Interesting.
All right, Thomas Wayne Riley for five bucks.
Salute from New Mexico and the regulators of the Rio Grande.
Yes, indeed, our new chapter in New Mexico is up and running.
I'm really passionate about this, but I need two super chats for it.
Well, there you go.
So that's your first super chat.
So there you go.
If you guys are in New Mexico, there's a chapter now spun up right now that you guys can go and join.
It's a state I've never been to, but I do actually plan to at least drive through it for the first time later this year.
So I'll be able to put some boots down in New Mexico for a bit and see what it's all like.
Also, I will send up the bat symbol one more time for a little.
If anyone is in the Dakota's North or South Dakota,
there are a couple guys up there who've been looking to get a chapter spun up for a while now.
So if you guys are in the area,
please reach out to us at the old glory club at g-mail.com
and we'll put you in contact with those guys.
And hopefully we can get a South Dakota or North Dakota chapter spun up.
So reach on out to us.
All right, Thomas Wayne Riley again for $15.
Maybe selling all of our public land gives the feds $37 trillion.
So there's no more deficit.
Washington's going to spend less.
They'll be right back to 30 trillion in debt and under a decade in normal or public land.
Yeah, absolutely.
I remember Charlemagne poised this mental experiment last week.
We were talking about libertarians.
You know, it's just, let's just say that we did absolutely nothing for the rest of the administration
except cut all government spending and just put it all into paying off the national debt.
And then four years from now, a Democrat comes back and right back to deficit spending again.
And we've accomplished nothing.
So it's like, you know, list of priorities right here.
Okay, I mean, yeah, we've got a bullet wound in our shoulder, but how about the big giant gaping, you know, shotgun blast we've taken it in our chest? Maybe we should address that first.
An America in default is infinitely superior to America with 100 million more browns.
100%. Very true.
John Maraduke for 25 bucks caught the stream late, so I'm catching up, but it is worth mentioning that the U.S. is not ready for any real war. Very true.
Russia has been firing three times the shells in the day that we make in a month.
Is that true?
Yeah, they're, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, that's been, that's been true since the beginning of the Ukraine war.
Damn, wow.
America does not make, America does not make that many munitions.
I mean, three times is a little conservative, to be honest.
Wow.
Interesting.
I know Charlemagne was talking recently.
You guys are going to do another one of your Ukraine update streams pretty soon,
and I always find those are informative.
As a guy who's not watching the everyday goings on of that war,
It is nice to know that there are people in our thing who that is their thing.
So those ones are always ones I look forward to.
So you have to look out for that, guys.
Let's see, dash for two bucks.
Charge foreigners, 500 bucks for entry to parks.
Oh, my God.
I was talking about this last year, and this is 100% should be done.
Safety people like Disney World, all these other places,
they just used to be perks of being an American.
And now they'd just been opened up to globalism.
I couldn't believe when I was driving around the country last year.
and I've talked about this before when I was either in places like Erie, Pennsylvania,
or Mammoth Cave National Park, or Mackinac Island up in northern Michigan,
or, you know, the middle of Missouri, no, just no matter where I was last year,
it's just infested with foreigners.
I'm like, how?
How could this be allowed?
How are these people here?
I mean, people will know this, that I was gone for a couple of weeks.
I was out on Africa on safari, and I took some time, and I went to a couple of national parks
when I was there as well when I wasn't just hunting.
and they charge foreigners out the ass to enter these national parks.
And America just don't do that.
It's bullshit.
We should be charging these people exuberant amounts of money to enter our public plans.
This is supposed to be a part of being American.
Just imagine, like, walking down one of the tunnels in Mammoth Cave,
and you just see this light, and it's one of these trains who just takes out all the cheats there.
Well, if Elon is so concerned about the National Day,
Yeah, quadruple the prices for foreigners.
Yeah, there you go.
Tax on remittances, now, one thing I will constantly be shouting out James Kirkpatrick for
because he tweets out tax on remittances pretty much daily at this point.
So good for him.
It needs to be done.
It's me magic.
I mean, it's me magic.
It's in the big, beautiful bill as far as I'm aware.
I mean, it's like 3%.
Yeah, it's three and a half.
It's not enough, but it's a start.
The door is open.
That would not have happened without James Kirkpatrick.
reading on Twitter.
Listen, you just create the avenue of income.
It's like the income tax.
It starts small, and greediness will inevitably raise that up.
You just have to get it through the door, and time will do the work.
100%.
All righty.
Seasider for 10 bucks.
I've been listening to the drive soundtrack all this week.
Can't figure out why.
Hmm.
Well, that assassin had, like, the mask from a,
drive on, right? That was the
thing he was wearing? I think he was.
I don't know. I was wearing
a breaking bad
mask. Oh, was he?
I will
say this. I mean, he's mentioning drive.
The only thing is stuck in my mind
is the excellent opening soundtrack
and theme song for
Cap and Michael Poles drive time movie night.
I mean, that thing is just pure
keynote. Michael Paul did an amazing job on that show's
intro. So I want you to go watch
drive time movie night. You have a good time over there.
Belaro 393 for 10 bucks.
Shout out to Madison Grant for being one of the OG
conservationists of America's nature and its people, 100%.
Also, bigger Uber-Filo-Semite, Ted Cruz, or Bill Mitchell.
Oh, it's got to be Bill Mitchell.
Absolutely.
Yeah, he was really, really bad.
He's like, just think what would happen to the United States
if we didn't support Israel. God would just smite us down.
I hate this dispensationalism theology so much.
And really, I didn't run into any of this kind of stuff literally at all until I became politically aware on our side of Twitter.
It's like, dude, like I was born Orthodox and Catholic.
It's like, we didn't deal with any of this kind of weird shit in either of those two things.
So it was just so bizarre to me seeing everyone talk about like our whole job as Americans and as Christians is just to defend the nation of Israel.
It's like, what the fuck people?
but apparently this is just a huge part of
a lot of sex of America Christianity
Just remember that
it's basically just the Christian version of what the mullahs are in Iran
It's an apocalyptic cult
It should have no political power
It is garbage theology
But that's for another time
And again it just makes you a slave
It's literally a slave religion
Not Christianity
not Christianity, just a dispensationalism.
Although I know a lot of people, a lot of people
will want to say it's all Christians, but no, no, it's just
this group. This group is a natural slave
cast that wants to battle their masters.
And it's not anti-Semitism. It could be any other
holy people. The Mormons have a similar problem
with their own things. There are other versions of this for other people
groups, and it's just as bad theology. So
hold your, hold your horses at the anti-Semitism. It just happens
to be that this is serving
Israel. It could serve any number
of ridiculous nonsense things that are
in the Bible.
Yeah, I really
just did not know that this stuff was
like even a thing until I
came on our side of things. It was just really, really
bizarre to me. Yeah, I mean,
you guys know, you guys on my background, you know,
Middle East Christian, it's like
the idea
of the distance.
Yeah, and you're part of the world.
Yeah, no, I don't. I don't.
I don't, hold on. Are you telling me that you, a Lebanese Christian, one of the oldest Christian churches in the world, don't believe in the ultra-true-based Christian dispensationalist?
What?
Imagine my shock.
You mean the oldest Christian communities don't believe in this nonsense? This made-up nonsense?
Not even know believe in this nonsense. This is anathema.
and if you know your theology that's a very important term
yeah
all righty
last couple ones and then we'll get out of here
Machiavelli sucks being white is great
I always want to say to go because he was one of the prolific
super chatters on A-A stream for years and years and years
then he changed his name yeah yeah he's been around a long time
long long time so for five bucks
planned of the apes day
yeah there you go
Um, Aramig discourse for five bucks.
Late today had to celebrate with my 35 half-black sons of whom I pay zero child support.
OGC, Tel Aviv Tunnels survives despite Iranian strikes.
I still can't believe that that was a thing.
That was the thing that started last year off was, you know, it was like a week into 2020.
what a year or what
have, wow,
huh.
You can't meme these people enough.
They really can't.
They are the meme.
They just meme themselves.
And our final super chat of the night
comes from our own good friend,
Capitalissimo,
for five bucks.
Drive time movie night mentioned.
Yes, yes indeed.
Drive time movie night was indeed mentioned.
So shout out to Cap,
shout out to Michael Pole,
go watch their show.
And hopefully,
I could return to being guest once again
at some point in the near future
because boy did I have a blast
joining those two guys.
I intentionally went into the show
completely blind.
I'd heard so many people went on it
and had such a good time.
I was like, no, I just,
I can't know what I'm getting into.
And so when I actually showed up,
it was very, very fun.
So definitely watch.
They got something special going on.
So, all right.
That is it for the show this week.
Cringe Walker, what do you have to promote, sir?
I am writing a lot of substacks.
All of them work.
At this point, I have as many drafts as I have published articles, so I have to start
like getting these out.
But that's my substack at elf.substack at elf.com or elfemplars.
It's dot subsect.com.
Either one works.
I don't really encourage people to follow my Twitter.
It's mostly just rambling.
But occasionally I have a good base take or cartoon.
People like, I've said the Benjamin, Yenahu,
with the two knives didn't take off.
I'm very sad. That was fun.
I drew that on off time.
But I don't even know if you two saw it.
I'll send you if you want.
Yeah, so that's me.
All right. Perfect.
Go check that out. And Hunger, what do you have to promote, sir?
You can just follow me at Twitter at Hunger die, D-Y.
Speaking of that Iran series, I've mentioned a few times,
our next episode will be next Saturday, June 28th.
That'll be part four of our Iran series.
We finally got up to the late 1700s.
But, you know, maybe one or two more episodes.
We'll finally get to the Islamic Revolution,
or at least the lead-up to the Islamic Revolution,
if you're interested in the history of Iran.
And we love all our super chatters,
but I am very disappointed in the lack of gold.
Yeah, there wasn't angle this week.
It's true.
You got to pump those numbers up.
I do have to laugh how,
you're mentioning your series that you're doing with Hitman hunger it reminds me of any time Pete does a series with Thomas we're like oh this is going to be our last episode four episodes later many many such cases eventually we're going to get to the conclusion yeah but they're all worth it they're all worth it exactly it's like well we'll get there when we get there all right no listen this isn't classic cable TV here all right or we're just restricted to one hour we'll get there when we get there all right um for my
I will be back at the Southern Command next week.
So regular schedule programming will start up once again then.
So it will probably look for me appearing on outside channels once again,
such as the Rule Zero gang and Post Zero and everything like that.
I'm actually overdue to host a Rule Zero episode.
So I might do that next weekend.
But be on the lookout for some very, very interesting stuff coming from the OGC channel
in a few weeks time.
We will make a huge announcement next week,
so be ready for that.
But we will be here next week
for another episode of Pony Express Radio.
We'll see all you guys then.
