The Pete Quiñones Show - 07/18 Old Glory Club Livestream w/ Pete, Redhawk, NotMeNotYou and Guest Matt Erickson (w/o Trump Speech)

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

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Doug is getting lashes in the back after this one. Horrible. Anyhow, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another exciting episode of Pony Express Radio. It is good to be back. I've just finished a 10-day long road trip, just a little under 4,000 miles driven. I went all over the country.

Pete and I got dinner one night, which is pretty cool. But it's nice to be back at my command center. It's really weird to have good Italian food in the middle of Alabama, isn't it? Yeah, that was a great dinner. The grouper I have is fantastic. So, all right. Anywho, well, we are joined once again by Pete who's made his return. How you doing, Pete?

Good. Yeah, let's get this on. Let's get this going. All right. And then we are joined once again by Mr. Not Me, Not You. How are you, sir? Doing great. It's been a very exciting week.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. And making his triumphant return to Pony Express Radio is our good friend, Kingpill. Thanks for coming back, man. Yeah, good to be here. Thanks for having me, guys. All righty. Cool, gentlemen.

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Code word you missed in honor of the attempted assassination of the president. So definitely go and get your hands on one of those right now. And continue to send us emails if you guys are looking to get into any of our chapters we're looking to get at least like around a dozen up by the end of the year we're getting a lot of interest after the conference so if that strikes your fancy shoot us an email we'd be happy to have you join a chapter and let's just get right into it we're going to start tonight with a discussion going on about canceling people as right-wingers to our enemies and such but i feel like the first place to start is our friend good friend of the channel academic agent put out of tweets earlier today talking about how Destiny has continued to disgrace himself by calling for violence against Trump supporters, our guys, right-wingers, conservatives of all types, and AA has started a campaign

on Twitter calling for Rhonda Santis and Ashley Moody, the Attorney General of Florida, to take attention to Destiny who's calling for violence. He has a massive platform with millions of people watching him, millions of disgruntled leftists who are out for blood. and so if we can get any of our guys, anyone's got like boomer relatives or anything in Florida, definitely get them to start writing into their local, you know,

law enforcement to their local, you know, lawyers or anything like that, see if we can get destiny taken down because this is just absolutely disgraceful behavior that should not be allowed and should not be tolerated anyway. All right. So definitely go check that out.

Spread the word and hopefully we can get destiny taken down because he's truly just a, a despicable and awful creature. But this actually opens up to the discussion. I mean, we're going to use that Sam Hyde here as a jumping board to bring this discussion off of. But we're going to bring up the discussion of canceling people on the right. Of course, the one that was making the rounds the last couple of days was of that Home Depot

clerk about how she was saying that like, oh, the shot should have hit Trump and I'm really upset that I missed and all the stuff. You guys have seen all this from very. various people online in in real life the past week. And it brought up the discussion of, oh, well, should we, you know, not strike back? Do we need to turn the other cheek? Are we above this? You know, do we need to be the adults in the room and return to normalcy and such?

And Sam Hyde here, which I think all of us definitely agree with, is, no, absolutely not. He is bringing up how these people are absolutely horrible. We do not want to share a society with these people. We know we can't live with them. And, you know, let's fire back. So, gentlemen, what are your initial thoughts on this discourse? This is going on recently? Well, I mean, go ahead.

All right. Yeah. So there's a lot of people talking about this now on our side, obviously. There's a lot of back and forth between people like Fisted by Foucault, saying, oh, this is stupid and it makes us look stupid. And, you know, we have other people like John Carter and postcards from Barsoom and other guys. other of our guys on substack, writing some lengthy pieces, basically explaining why turnabout is fair play. And one of the things that really stood out to me during this whole, this whole nonsense is some people saying, like, oh, we don't want to become like the left. And

it was in one of those substack posts today that I read a very good point that we can't become like the left, right? Because the right has magnanimity. The right understands it in victory or magnanimous. The left really is a huge group of just genetic freaks who are ultimately resentful of the people that are better than them. So in throughout all of history, Leftist violence has never been restricted to military targets or any sort of, you might say, acceptable targets. It's been everyone, everyone that disagrees with them. The clergy, the people on the street, the man in the field, every single one of them is a target, whether or not they are combatants. So when we turn around and strike at their combatants, we've got nothing to apologize for.

It's not even really worth discussing with the people who like to talk big on the internet. And then as soon as things actually start happening, start whining about it. I immediately thought of Nicholas Sandman. This is a 16-year-old kid who they were calling for his head. They were saying, oh, have you ever seen such a punchable face? And what did he do? He went on a class trip and wore a hat. I mean, these people are scum.

You're to take, to collect a few scalps may just scare them a little bit. May cause some of them to back off if they know that they're, that they can pay for something. Now, I mean, one of them was some teacher in Oklahoma got her, um, her teaching credentials taken away by the state of Oklahoma. I mean, I call that a win. You know, they're going after elected officials, like mayors in small towns. I call that a win.

To make the, even if you can't get them out of office, you make them nervous. Yeah, you give them some sleepless nights. You give them, make them have a conversation with their wife or their husband. I mean, these people are scum.

This is the 88th. anniversary of the start of the Spanish Civil War today. And all it was was a bunch of Catholics and, you know, trads rising up and going, we're not going to accept communism. We're not going to accept this. And you're just going to have to kill us. We're not even saying that. We're just canceling a couple people on the Internet.

I think that people are just, They're just soft, or they're just playing it, or this is a game to them. You know, I talk about how, you know, right now we're just taking it foot by foot in a reconquista. And people are complaining because some Home Depot cashier, you know, what, got fired? Yeah, many people have gotten fired? I mean, look at, what's his name? Ricky Vaughn. He's going to go to, he's looking at jail for a meme.

And you're telling me, you, you feel sorry for Home Depot clerk? I mean, really, straight, straighten the fuck up and grow some fucking balls. This is just a beginning. Yeah, you know, my first reaction to this was, I don't want to entirely dismiss where people are coming from on this thing. Like, oh, should we really be, you know, canceling, you know, a lonely home. Debo clerks or any leftist that we just ran into the last couple of years and such. And I think the actual baseline instinct of people on the right to be a little reticent of this probably is what defines us as right wingers in the first place.

I think that's a good instinct to have. But I think tempering that and realizing the situation that we're in to realize that all these people would lock us up, throw us in jail, want us dead in the heartbeat. and the only reason why we're even able to turn the tables on them in this situation is because they just took out one of our guys in Donald Trump's assassination attempt. They tried to kill the president as well. They would have been dancing in the streets if they did. These people are responsible for this.

And I think it's good that we're not like, you know, genocidally like angry and rage filled and such like this. I think it speaks to a good side of us that we want to show mercy, that we want to be, you know, uh, now, uh, merciful in the signs of victory,

but, like, we're playing for keeps at this point. This is just how it has to be, you know, and unfortunately, yeah, some people's lives are going to get ruined by this,

but this is the game that we're playing at this point. Well, I don't want to steamroll, Matt, but like, uh, just one quick point. Like,

if these guys are going to be upset, because, uh, you know, you're deporting, uh, or you're deporting, you're fighting,

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And they're going to pull on your heartstrings with all of that. And are you going to say, oh, no, look at this picture. Why should we have borders and rights and shit? Like, you're going to have to toughen up. There are, there's kind of two different conversations. I think that I've seen people having about this. One of them is the, like the pragmatic conversation. Like, does this work?

Is this effective? You know, the anti-position on that would be, oh, this makes us look bad. This makes us just like them. And then there's the more, maybe you'd say, deontological perspective on it, which is like, is this, like, should we be doing this? Is this a good or a bad thing? And I think the anti-argument fails on both fronts. I think number one, it is effective.

There is a very strong pragmatic case for it because this is what warfare is today. This isn't just some sort of a trend or a fad that war is executed this way. This is, I don't know, fifth generation, sixth generation warfare. This is the way that war has been conducted. And we've been in a state of war for years, if not decades. And people haven't updated their softening. to recognize that this is how warfare is conducted. Because this is how warfare is conducted, we actually have a positive obligation to do this. This is to not do this is to say that you do

not have a positive obligation to defend Christian virtue, that you do not have a positive obligation to establish Christian values in your society around you and to punish those who violate them. And this is like the most egregious violation imaginable. to say that this is, oh, this is cancel culture and we shouldn't be engaging in this, is to completely, it's a late egalitarianism that completely misses the point altogether. Because the problem with cancel culture was not that people were being canceled. It's that people were being canceled for bad reasons. There are good reasons for someone to be canceled.

Cancellation is a legitimate tool that has a legitimate use. when someone says they're plainly advocating for political violence and advocating for their political opponents to be shot in the head, when they're publicly advocating for that, yes, they need to be publicly shamed,

humiliated, and if necessary, forced into silence. This is how a functioning civilization works. If you can't meet that very minimal baseline, you will not have a civilization. So we have a positive obligation to engage in the defense of our community. It's just that the way that war is fought at this point in time is in this bloodless way. And if that war is not permitted to be undertaken, if we are not allowed to be combatants in that war,

we will be forced to be combatants in the much more grub-brained type of war. That will be the inevitable consequence. That will be the judgment from God upon us for not defending Christian virtue in society now with the tools that are at our disposal. Yeah, definitely think that is an excellent point. that if we aren't even going to engage in this lower form of quote unquote conflict, then, you know, what are you going to do when things actually, you know, escalate even further than they have already?

You know, you don't want to get there. Exactly. If you can do stuff like this, if you can make people back off. Because, you know, we, people like us get something, we get canceled or something like that, or, you know, like, I've lost advertisers and stuff. It just makes me want to fight harder. That's not what they're like. It doesn't make them want to fight harder.

It makes them back off. A few of them, it makes them, you know, either suicidal or homicidal. Okay, you see, we've seen that in the past. But still, this is much better than going kinetic. But, you know, we, they know. know they're scared because they know that there is no way they can at this point it doesn't look like they can even steal this election and i'm not saying any elections in the past have ever been stolen okay you see yeah they've all been safe and fair indeed we all agree all of them

all of them but yeah it's what do you guys what do you guys make of this i don't want to call it like learned helplessness, but I can't think of another word for it, really, of like, our guys, the second we've made, even the slightest tip in the other direction, I mean, when was the last time anybody was canceled from the right, you know, in the mainstream? And the second we have the opportunity to, you know, make some progress here, immediately people are just backtracking saying, oh, no, we can't do this, we can't do anything, we can't win, we can't fight. Rosenberg's. well. That was a while ago, yeah. I mean, I think, I think what it is is that people are, you know, the Wright likes to see itself as being the bigger man or the better man and we are. But the problem

is we don't have any tactics at our disposal because we don't have any power at our disposal. You have to use the tools that are given to you. And until we get, more power that will produce a chilling effect on the left and its acceptance, the acceptance of these crazy ideas in society, we have to get a little dirty. That's just the way it is. Point of Heineken, please. That's the sound of someone who might be about to win two tickets to an Investec Champions Cup game. Sorry, did you say two tickets?

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Like, it's good if you see some dumpy, fat, old, sad lady working at Home Depot. Like, her very condition is a judgment upon us. The fact that you have this sad old woman who's forced to work this job for this shitty corporation is obviously miserable. And she's just channeling whatever the zeitgeist

has pumped into her. Yes, that's all she is. She's just a vessel for them. and that you should feel bad about that. That's not a good thing. This is an evil reality. But at the same time, the pawn of an enemy is still an enemy combatant. Just because she's a pawn doesn't make her not an enemy combatant. If you have a child that's coming at you with a gun, like on a battlefield, you don't say, oh, well, he's a kid, so I'm just not going to shoot him.

War is dirty and ugly. And most people don't have the stomach. for it. We're very blessed in that we can fight a war in such mild terms right now. But if we don't fight that war right now, it's going to escalate. It's going to be out of our control. This is how we can control it. This is how we can prevent it from escalating. So I recognize these people. I think it's good for them to have these sentiments. Like they need to keep that cultivated. It keeps us from getting hard-hearted. It helps us continue to be the right. But they also need to know when to shut up and sit down because not everybody recognizes when it's a war and the people who do need to be

free to engage in that war without having to fight on multiple fronts at the same time. No, I think that reluctance to at a base level to engage in this kind of behavior is definitely something that separates us from the left. I mean, courtesy you were mentioning this earlier, but the left almost always and all throughout history has these extreme genocidal tendencies whenever they get into power. I mean, it's just a staple of leftist regimes all throughout history. And, I mean, everyone likes to point at the big thing with the mustache man and paint that as every single right-wing regime ever. But it's clearly absolutely not the case.

You know, like, we are, we did not want to get into this situation. This is not where we wanted things to go. And, you know, I don't think any of us have, I mean, none of us have genocidal intent towards the leftists. We just want them. We just understand them cannot live with these people anymore. We understand how this has to be, how this has to go. I'm looking for the tweet right now, C.J. Engel put out. He said, you cannot change the direction of the country without making it socially unacceptable to be a leftist.

Cancel the left, incentivize the old cultural norms. Anyone who believes that we can have, that we can share a polity. with leftists doesn't understand leftists they don't understand that they are constantly at war

it's just it's a continual revolution perpetual revolution with them you have to stop it in its tracks and this is the beginning sorry miss Home Depot lady

you know you shouldn't have to that. When you start getting teachers and stuff like that, those are true scalps. Those are scouts to put on your wall. Yeah, exactly. That was going to be my next point that was going to mention Pete. Like, you know, I think people should definitely take advantage of this situation that we have that has been presented to us, this avenue, this attack vector that we have available. I mean, we've already gone over the fact that this Home Depot lady getting canceled is objectively, it is good for us, just from a tactical person.

perspective. However, it's certainly better if the people we are canceling are teachers, politicians, lawyers, you know, like people of that ilk, you know, are much better scalps. I think it would be more beneficial for people to use the best of their resources and their time to go after those people. But I also will not counter signal if, you know, some leftist that like Taco Bell down the street from me gets canceled for some reason. I mean, that's still, that is a good, you know, Especially if you think about what, like, what is cancellation? It is making someone less influential, economically reducing someone, reducing their footprint upon society. If someone is openly advocating for evil, then we have an obligation to contain that and to constrain that. There are better ways of doing it and there are worse ways of doing it. But in this particular case, this is the method, this is the tool, this is the technique that has been established and normalized. within our society for doing this. So we have an obligation to use that tool.

I saw people who were saying, well, you should only go for the high end people. Those are the real ones. And yeah, that is true. But I also, I don't remember who it was, and I'd love to give them credit, but I don't remember. They said, if a normie, like, there's one thing,

if it's like a celebrity or kind of a high profile person, there's sort of an implication of risk that they've taken on themselves in that case. They're more recognized as an enemy combatant. But when a normie has their, life carpet bombed over something like this, that is a very strong indicator to other normies about what normie behavior is supposed to be, what normie behavior is acceptable. And we have to assert that, because like Pete was saying, leftism is an all-out, all-domain, perpetual subversion 24-7. They will, it will subvert and it will eat like acid at your civilization if

it's not contained. It must be contained. It must be contained humanely, but that humanely is going to be relative to the actual threat and the actual magnitude of what the thing is. And in this case, publicly advocating for your fellow citizens to be killed in political assassinations is beyond the pale. That will not be allowed to persist. You will not be allowed to say that in public without getting your life carpet bomb. That makes the normies scared and the normies will react when they're scared. Indeed. All righty, gentlemen, any concluding thoughts before we move on to the next topic. just, you know, strap in. It's going to get worse.

But, you know, something that Jason from the two-bit podcast says, and I think Matt echoes it, too, is when you start winning like this, it's going to feel really good. Don't let it feel good. You're just doing a job. You're just doing what needs to be done. Don't enjoy it too much. Yeah. I think it's a very, very good point to make a deed, Pete.

All right. Well, gentlemen, those of you in the chat, hopefully you stuck around for our emergency broadcast stream on Saturday right after the Trump attempted assassination. But let's go back and actually talk and fill in any gaps that we might have missed on Saturday as well. So obviously, more information that we've come out was that this Thomas Matthew Crook's character, 20-year-old, was the one that took shots at Trump with an AR-style rifle. Um, it, we've come to find out now that, um, well, well, I'll just take it from the front here. That it's, uh, they, they shot at Trump. They killed one of our guys. Two people are still in critical condition.

And the only thing we seem worth talking about this whole thing is that, uh, journalists and Democrats have blood on their hands for this. Uh, the fact that this didn't happen, uh, sooner after they've had this, uh, extreme, dangerous rhetoric for the last eight years of calling Trump mustache man and a threat to demise. and the end of America and such. These people are directly responsible for this. Anyone else have anything to comment?

I mean, that's it, right? The, whether he had bombs in his car, whether there was a stand-down order. Here's the problem that I have with conspiracy theories is you're never going to know the truth. We don't know what happened with JFK. we don't know what happened on 9-11. It's all theories, and it's all a bunch of people doing it to make themselves feel smart,

to make themselves feel special. I know some kind of secret knowledge that nobody else knows, yada, yada, you don't know. You don't know. You're never going to know. We'll never know. So how do we use it? And that's it. That's all we've been talking about, is how do we use it?

I've seen people comment saying that, oh, you're buying this? No, not buying this. We're using this. And if Trump doesn't use it, if J.D. Vance doesn't use it. I don't give a shit. We're going to use it. And we're going to see how far we can push it. Because it is true.

They took a shot. If the Secret Service allowed them to do it, whatever. They took a shot at the president and killed one of our guys. They've been stoking this for years. They have blood on their hands. And they can no longer be allowed to do this. They can no longer be allowed to use this kind of rhetoric. They have to be shut down.

Or else we can't live, we can't be safe. These people are monsters. and they need to be stopped. And that's it. This becomes a vehicle for a lot, or it can become a vehicle for a lot. I saw a congressman named, a congressman named Corey Mills from Florida, who I'd never really known anything about before. I was very impressed with his performance talking on CNN about this.

There's an eight-minute clip on it. And one of the things he asked for, or he said needs to happen, is a J-13 commission to mirror the January 6 commission. We need a J-13 commission to investigate this. And I think that there's an opportunity here to use social pressure to guide the direction of that commission in the same way that the libs did with Russiagate and with January 6th, with all these things. that can become the wedge that if Trump and Vance are elected, if they're installed,

that becomes a wedge that can be used for so many reasons. And there is a serious elite appetite to have a wedge issue like that that can justify investigations, sanctions, even criminal investigations. Like this can become the vessel for purging. between 2024 and 2028. Now, it's a dangerous game because it can equally be wrestled by other people as well. But I think this comes back to us, number one, no fucking blackpilling. And number two, like Pete is saying, regardless of the actual facts, regardless of what

the actual story is, this is our opportunity now to create the myth, to create the narrative, to direct the narrative at the people who are responsible. Because regardless of the exact facts, there are people who, who are responsible for it and they need to be held responsible. Yeah, every single time people spend time talking about, oh, angles of bullets and incompetence of the Secret Service and local PD'd and stop them and so-and-so pointed out the shooter at this time is just pulling cover for the people who are actually responsible for this.

The people who are actually responsible are journalists and the Democrats. If they did not have this rhetoric, this kid would not have been radicalized and would not have taking a shot at the president, period. That is the stuff that needs to be focused on. And one of the other things that I want to bring to attention here, I find it very strange that everyone is just clamoring over themselves to find the next big conspiracy. It goes all the way to the top, man.

Did you guys see the red band that the Secret Service sniper was wearing? It must mean he's a member of the tribe, you know, and stuff like this, when people should really be focusing on the fact that, listen, Corey lost his life. in that audience he got shot in front of his wife and child that could have been any one of us that guy could have listened to the show for all we know that how many trump rallies have we been to how many trump rallies have people in this audience been to that is literally one of our guys that they took a shot at and people are more worried about secret service bullshit no there used to be this firefighter show based around 9-11 called rescue me it was sort of a comedy but

one of the firefighters got turned into a real 9-11 truth guy and one of the wives of the firefighters who was lost on 9-11 went up to him one day and said stop fucking making my my husband's death your hobby that's I've never forgotten that that's always stuck with me you're making tragedy into your little hobbies so you can you can be a special boy and sound smart knock it the fuck off yeah i mean this is just it's an expression of the like nobody nobody believes anything anymore they like people are so sucked into this online world they don't really experience real life like anybody who gets out and lives and does things know that that unexpected and crazy things happen in the world.

And this whole conspiracy theory thing, like, I don't know if anybody saw James Dellingpole. I'm not, that name, like, rings familiar for me, but I don't remember, like, what exactly his whole thing was. But he put out this rambling, incoherent substack, where he's saying, if you believe that this was real, like, you're a normie, you're a slimy,

you're asleep without offering anything to suggest that like that it wasn't exactly as it appeared to be. Because you'll never have the facts, because they'll never have the facts. If it was a conspiracy from on high, you're never going to get the facts. So you'll always feel special because I'm the one who said, oh, this couldn't possibly have been real. This had to be a sciop where you, okay, what are the details of it? Well, I think shut the fuck up then.

Yeah, I mean, that's that's pretty much it. They've got, they, like, people are devolving into this kind of psychosis where, uh, the, the internet is just more, it's the hyper reality, right? Like we, for the last couple of years, everyone's been talking about this. Baudreard was right. It's just, it's just where we're at. So like the conspiracy theorists are always going to, are going to increase in number. And they're getting way worse on the left than they are on the right right now. So

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And psychosis, I think, is an appropriate term because that's the sort of thing. Having a profound spiritual experience that you don't know how to manage or integrate will break your brain. The human mind isn't capable of sustaining some of these things, especially in our spiritually fallen state. So that's part of like I think part of our role and our responsibility to to others around us is to try to stabilize them with. It sounds woo-woo, but like with positive spiritual energy, with maintaining, with taking control of the narrative and saying what we're saying right now, that this is what matters and capitalizing on the momentum, capitalizing on the energy to direct it productively. Otherwise, it's going to be directed somewhere, and if it's self-directed, it's going to spin off into la-la land. Yeah, I think you're absolutely spot on with that. There is a big spiritual and metaphysical force behind not just this image, but obviously the entire thing that occurred, that people who live in the modern world, free from adversity, free from strife, they don't get exposed to.

And so that when they when something does happen that they're exposed to that they're not familiar with, you were absolutely right. It can break their brain. And it's the exact same way that there was a that viral post from some lefty woman saying that Trump's response was too strange. Like like no man would stand up and do like pump his fists and say fight. And for the for these people, the idea that a man could have courage is outside. of their understanding. It's outside of their experience. So if something as simple as that is alien to the modern mind, all, all bets are off when it comes to large things like this. Yeah, I think that's an excellent point. And I'll tie this into something that we run into in the, in the Manosphere quite a bit. The concept we have is called, Would You Rather Be Happy?

Would You Rather Be Right? And this tends to happen when a lot of guys try to intellectualize the differences between men and women and try to explain to either their wife or their girlfriend that, oh, well, I'm the man because by evolutionary psychology meaning I am bigger and I'm stronger and therefore I have to earn the right for you to be sexually attracted to me and then you're going to be loyal to me and yada, yada, yada. And the girl is just tuning out the entire time and looking at you like you're speaking Chinese and you have three heads and it ever works. So that's technically you being right for you to explain. the biological differences between men and women and why things have turned out the way they have. Or are you just going to pick up your gym bag, go to the gym and work out and look good and not apologize for it? It's like, okay, you've reached your end state conclusion.

So do you want to be happy or do you want to be right? And it's the same thing in this circumstance as well. It's like, do you want to go autistically breaking down every single detail of this case until you're blue in the face? And it's never going to have an impact on anyone's perception of this case whatsoever. even if you were to uncover some grand conspiracy that goes all the way to the top man no it's not going to change at all so why are you bothering engage with the stuff that we have in front of us and use it to our advantage this this is a golden opportunity that has been handed to us right now

and why are we belittling it by squabbling over like what color the shooter's shirt was for some stupid fucking reason all righty um let's go on and talk about the one of the biggest reasons why we wanted to have Kingfield on this stream this week because you were pretty hype to J.D. Vance right from the beginning. So why don't we start talking about him, King Pilled, and go for it, man, because definitely your stock has been rising after this one, has it not? You have to enjoy doing a victory lap, hey? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have, even when I was, I was starting to try to piece some of these aspects of the story together. I genuinely, genuinely did not expect to be, to be validated this quickly or this much. So really it was, people probably are starting to get used to the term now,

PayPal Mafia. It was, it actually had a Wikipedia entry before I started looking into it. And that's what really jumped off all my, my study. But now I'm seeing, people are talking about it all the time because I'm assuming most people are aware that David Sacks and Elon Musk and Mark Andreson and a number of other Bill Ackman, a number of the billionaire class, especially those who are aligned with Silicon Valley or have historically been aligned with Silicon Valley, have all come out, thrown their weight behind Trump. And we've had stories leaked that right after the assassination, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, David Sacks. I want to say there was one other person.

It might have been Mark Andreessen, all called Trump and told him to pick J.D. Vance. And I'd been looking at this all along. And my speculation as I was digging into this PayPal Mafia phenomenon was that there was a battle going on behind the scenes over who Trump's VP was going to be. And that's why we were getting so many weird comments and statements from him about there was one that really stood out a couple, it was maybe, I don't know, four or five months ago. it was a little odd that he hadn't really there was no frontrunner and someone asked him and I think it was Brett Baer asked him and said like can you give us any clues and he said oh well you basically we're still figuring out who it's going to be and the VP doesn't really matter that all that much it doesn't really matter electorally and he said I've got one person that I want you

know but I think there's I don't think it's going to be that person and I think it's maybe there's 25% chance that it'll be that person I thought well that's kind of an odd thing to say so that kind of implies to me that there's four potential candidates. And so my speculation here was that you have the GOP old guard that have their candidate, that they want to be their, essentially their new Mike Pence, like their handler for Trump, which honestly, I think Tucker Carlson said this to Trump after the assassination attempt. He said, if you pick Marco Rubio, which was apparently who the other option was, if you pick Marco Rubio, you're dead.

Because there's going to be so many people who are ready, who they see their way now. President Marco Rubio would just be, you know, like, you know, we just had to wait for eight years to get our Jeb Bush, Jeb Bush character. That was the direction that the establishment GOP wanted to go. But then as I was documenting with the PayPal Mafia stuff and then the connection to Project 2025, I began realizing there's a really large contingent of people who would be considered part of the elite class, who are, seemed to be saying a lot of the same things. things. They're very concerned about a lot of the same things. They're very closely adjacent to us and a lot of our guys. And the one guy who stuck out of all of them was J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance is obviously a direct

protege of Peter Thiel and who's obviously PayPal Mafia's leading man. So Vance was the guy all along that I was, I was like, okay, this is the PayPal Mafia guy. So if my theory is correct, J.D. Vance will be the vice president. For a while, I thought maybe Vivek, but then, And it seemed clear that Vivek was not quite as much of the inner circle guy. He's kind of a little on the outside. There's an interesting storyline here that Vivek and Vance are actually old friends. They went to college together. And in fact, one of J.D. Vance's son's name is Vovake.

That's how close they are. So, and they, but there's, there's some significant differences between the two of them. And it'll be interesting to see how they, how they have it out together as they're buying for Trump's ear. But, yeah, essentially it became clear that there's a debate going on over who's going to be the vice president. And either the PayPal Mafia, Project 2025, a new right coalition that's forming is going to get their guy or the establishment con ink people are going to get their guy. And I think what the real, the real mover, the real market mover here for me was when I started listening to what Tom Luongo and Phil Gibson were talking about with Jamie Diamond and, uh, Jerome Powell. And basically they are laying waste to European banks right now. And they're making a lot of moves that indicate a desire for basically reshoring control of the U.S. dollar and U.S. manufacturing

and industry. It's like a sovereignist move. And it's for them, it's self-interested. Because going along with the Davos World Economic Forum, CBDC agenda is basically them just giving up the keys to the Porsche. They're just giving away all of their power. So they have a strong, interest to have a sovereign national America that exists as the most powerful country in the world and is being uplifted rather than torn down through the competency crisis and all this DEI and ESG and all of that. Once that clicked for me, I realized that these are all, this is not separate factions anymore. These have aligned into a full-blown coalition where the American commercial investment banking sector,

the GOP, new right wing of the GOP, and the PayPal Mafia, the Balaji Srenovazen's gray tribe leaders. And that's a massive political coalition. This is an entire ruling elite unto itself. So J.D. Vance being installed as Trump's VP and now being tagged as the heir apparent for 2028, is a very, very strong signal for where this new rising elite is wanting to go and the type of patronage that they're offering.

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They want to send like skyscrapers into the into outer space And they want to bring us along with that Hmm Well, first of all, let's hear There's something else too Is If we're

If we're tuned in like this How many other people like in history Have been tuned in enough to notice When a circulation of the elites is happening. I mean, this is historic shit. I think we should. And if they, if this is what, you know, what it could be, I mean, are the PayPal Mafia perfect? Nope.

I don't know that any of them hate me. And I'm pretty sure most of the people in the regime right now hate me. So I'd rather have someone who is just indifferent at this point. Yeah. And I mean, even if this should be looked at as an opportunity to get our guys in there. We have a lot of young men who are interested in getting things done. Now is the time to start signing up for stuff because if we have somebody who's able to get even one or two of our guys in the door in the administrative state or involved in any way, that's good for us. And even if these guys

aren't going to be completely on our side. They're at least sympathetic to our message. So this is a win. Indeed. Before we comment further, let's hear this clip from well, future vice president, Vance's speech at the RNC last night. You know, one of the things that you hear people say sometimes

is that America is an idea. And to be clear, America was indeed founded on brilliant ideas like the rule of law and religious liberty, things written into the fabric of our Constitution and our nation. But America is not just an idea. It is a group of people with a shared history and a common future. It is, in short, a nation. Now, it is part of that tradition, of course, that we welcome newcomers.

But when we allow newcomers into our American family, we allow them on our terms. That's the way we preserve the continuity of this process. project from 250 years past to hopefully 250 years in the future. Well, at the start of it, I mean, Ron McIntyre is one person removed from the president of the United States and people are blackpilled. Really? I mean, come on.

Come on, guys. Well, I mean, it's very weird being in a position where you are mutuals with people who are mutuals with the future vice president of the United States. I mean, like a couple of us here on this panel and guys in the chat, I mean, it's very interesting to say the least. Yeah, and I mean, Vance employing the word, like, to say we're nation, right? The ancient Greek for nation was ethnos. The etymology of the word nation is Nazi from the Latin, meaning born. like he like vance based on the people he follows vance probably knows these things um

it's it's not it's not a uh like something to just gloss over that he specifically said we're not an idea we're a nation we know what a nation is he knows what a nation is so that's uh as the left would say a pretty good dog whistle the funny thing watching his speech yesterday was uh yeah of course i had to it was appointment viewing for me and So I sat there watching him and I thought, you know, the thing that really stands out to me about this speech is it's kind of boring. It's not really, he's not barnstorming. He's not like Vivek was. He's very down home.

He's very relatable. He was very engaged with the crowd. The crowd was really, someone made the point to me on Twitter that Trump has trained his base to engage with the speaker and to like have a back and forth. And it makes it much more personable. And Vance carried that well. He's a very natural speaker. But he's also not a very comfortable speaker on a teleprompter. You could see it a few times yesterday as he's talking.

He's sort of fumbling a little bit with the teleprompter. And then one time he just started saying the wrong sentence completely, had to stop, start over again. And then he ditched the teleprompter. And that was right when he told the anecdote about his mama and that the guy, if he kept hanging around with the guy who was bad news, that she was going to run him over with her car. And that, when you see him talk like that,

he's much more natural. You can see how, it just, to me, it lends authenticity to who he is, that when he's having to be really structured and formal, it seems a little uncomfortable. But when he's more relaxed, and if you listen to some of his other speeches

where he's just going off the cuff, he's very relaxed, very comfortable. But then you get this morning, David Sacks is lionizing Pat Buchanan. And Vance is very close with Patrick Deneene with Rod Dreher, with Yarvin. He's, he, there's a really good piece that we rode, that we read on King Pilled earlier this week.

Of him describing at length, that's a long piece, him describing his conversion to Catholicism. And he is a very sincere person. Like he's, you can't, you can't fake the type of musings that he's going through. He's, he's a very spiritually aware, authentic person. with a lot of humility. And he's also, he's very much a philosopher. He's not a martial guy.

He's very much a philosopher. So if this trajectory holds, then we're looking at a 2028 philosopher king taking over from the, on, you know, the retiring grandfatherly figure essentially. Like that's the upshot. How close can we get to that upshot? That's going to depend on what happens between now and then.

But I think that that potential does exist there. And as you say, as you guys say, there's a lot of our guys who are very close to him and immediately in his orbit, which opens up so many opportunities for us to ensure that our people are represented, that we have a voice and that we can provide for our people in the next regime, whatever form it takes. Indeed. A couple of guys in the chat are pointing out how James Lindsay has been having an epic meltdown ever since this speech last night, which is more than enough reason to, uh, be supporting fans but we have another clip from his speech last night uh let's have a listen now now now that's not just an idea my friends that's not just a set of principle even though the ideas and the principles are great that is a homeland that is our homeland people will not fight for abstractions but they will fight for their home and if this movement of ours is going to succeed and if this country is going to thrive our leaders have to remember

member that America is a nation and its citizens deserve leaders who put its interests first. Well, that's, you certainly would never hear that come out of any other Republicans' mouth that would currently be there these days. I mean, can you imagine somebody like Mitt Romney speaking that way or John McCain or either of the Bush or Jeb Bush? Nobody. Nobody is speaking that way. Well, there was another point where I don't know if we have it clipped.

where he was talking about where he's from in Kentucky and how poor everybody is, how destitute everybody is. And he says, and some people would say, you know, they're privileged. And that was a direct shot at,

you know, the whole white privilege thing. I mean, that I didn't expect that of them. But, I mean, I heard that immediately when he said that. And, yeah,

I mean, what more could you ask at this point really? I watched the speech with my, the number one kingpilled listener, my mother-in-law. She is the best thing that the boomer generation ever produced. She is an absolute peach. She never misses an episode.

She was on the edge of her seat sitting there watching him. And she was gushing about his, you know, how handsome he is. And, you know, he's so well-spoken and he's so polished. and he's just so impressive. It's really good to see young people that are that are such upstanding,

noble people and everything. So for whatever it's worth, obviously she's a little biased, but for whatever it's worth, that's how the otherwise extremely normie boomer. She's funny because she's like an extreme normie who listens to Kingfield. But so apart from that, she found him just very relatable.

She talked about he doesn't sound like a politician. He sounds like he sounds like he. he's actually talking to me. So I don't know what this is. You know, we kind of live in our little cocoon here. I don't know exactly what the impact is outside of this, but I did just see a poll for whatever a poll is worth that said, how satisfied are you with the pick? And there was enthusiastic, satisfied and dissatisfied. And it was 6% dissatisfied. And then like 51 and 51% enthusiastic and 43% satisfied. So, and I think that poll was probably before his speech.

So after his speech, I'll be curious to see where his numbers go. What's the general reception to him going to be? I think it's going to be really positive. I mean, how do we want to address the number one concerns that everybody has about Vance and the PayPal crowd? I know people have been skeptical of Peter Thiel and his life for, Apparently some people have the secret knowledge that he wants to import all of India. Which like directly flies in the face of, like, why is he making these dog whistles like you guys are talking about as as a subversive agent?

Like what, to appeal to us? Like this weird little niche right wing subculture, we're the ones that he needs to appeal to with these dog whistles. He would have no need to make these dog whistles if that was his plan. If the R&C is gay There's no reason to say all this stuff Basically it's like It's like they say about Vivek He wants to bring all the India there

How come I don't want to bring all of Puerto Rico here? I mean isn't that the same fucking logic Oh I have Puerto Rican on my dad's side So obviously I want all of Puerto Rico to come here right fucking retards, man. Yeah, I mean, it's just it, it's weird to see people saying, I don't even really know how to conceive of it.

They think that, like, opinions don't change or that if you, like, I have, like, I have an Indian friend. And I do not want there to be a lot of Indians here, right? Like, having an Indian wife, having an Indian friend doesn't, like, shackle you to believing that the third world should come live in your in your home country. I just don't understand how these people formulate these things. I think they just like the fight. Or like you're always saying, Pete, they just like to be the big brain to cast aspersions when they don't have anything useful to say. Well, they're the black pill.

And what you know about black pill people is they only expect things to get worse. Nothing is ever going to get better. I mean, can you imagine these people in El Salvador five years ago? They probably still have an El Salvadorian podcast talking about how Buceli is secretly going to let the gangs out of the prison. We can't trust him. I mean, fuck them all. They are just constantly reminding us how, uh, how a Buckele started off in a left wing party as if it matters. Like this is the, this is the thing.

This is this is the shift in history, right? This is where, uh, there can actually be a purge of the gay old party that the, all the, all the, the, the, the Bucleites and all the people who want to make sure that, uh, that fascism never rises in America that thinks the right is a bigger threat than the left and the progressives, all these people can be purged by someone like J.D. Vance and the PayPal Mafia. And that's our best bet. So if you're going to black pill about this kind of stuff or say, oh, they're not perfect or, oh, they like brown people too much, a step in the right direction is a step in the right direction. Just take it. Did you know those Black Friday deals everyone's talking about?

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people can argue it goes back even further than that whatever and you think that you're just going to be suddenly able to get a guy into office to go full 14 words and I don't understand it like it just it just doesn't work that way I mean let's let's take the wins where we can get them. Somebody has to be elected and it might as well be this guy and damn well might as well be Trump especially when we have the golden opportunity that you know let's just put this into context here okay. In 2016 we had nothing but a bunch of memes and now we actually have like people there are people who have been on this show that have talked to JD Vance before and I'm supposed to think we're in a worse position now than we were in 2016. You'd really be

shocked the people that I've talked to. You really be shocked the people who talk to me privately that I'm not allowed to say anything about. I mean, it just, I'm not saying trust the plan. All I'm saying is, you might not have all the information

some of us have. Yeah. What this really reminds me of is Pete and I were, apparently, I learned today that I'm the one who subverted Pete out of libertarianism, apparently. Pete and I both were, we were talking a lot around 2020, 2021, and as we kind of came to our senses through COVID and rid ourselves of the libertarian

hanging-ons that we had. And what I've been recognizing is that this is the exact same phenomenon. This is, this is instead of, uh, instead of the state, it's the Jews or, um, the blacks or the Jets or the whatever. It's, it's not to say that these things aren't a problem. Like libertarians, would they identify problems with the state? Yeah, those are problems. When you identify problems with the Jews, yeah, those are problems. When you identify problems with the blacks, yeah, those are problems. These are all problems. They actually are problems. But you can't get yourself so so burrowed down into that hole that it's the only thing that you can see because it makes you retarded. You no longer are able to actually evaluate the land around you. You're just trapped

in a dialectic and you're like fist fighting with phantoms in the corner while the world is moving on. So at this point right now, we don't have, as you say, the guy who's going to come in full 14 words. And if a guy was to come in that way, that would be much worse for us. Like you got you got to read the room. You got to understand the nature of things. But you also got to be able to read trajectories and map trajectories to see where it's going, where are we headed. And the direction that we're headed is an area that's much better off than where we are now.

It has the potential for even more. But even if we don't get that even more, we'll be much better than where we are today, as long as we take advantage of it. And like Pete said, these people aren't hostile to us. If anything, they're almost sympathetic. to us, but at the very least they're neutral to us. They see themselves as proper patrons. You can see this in the way that the quote that David Sacks chose from Pat Buchanan, where he said, it was Pat Buchanan giving his speech saying, like, we have an obligation to these people,

to the ordinary working man. We have an obligation to respect his culture and represent him and help him maintain his way of life. The Bible says you're always going to have the poor. And there are some people who sense this and recognize this. I think it was telling that that's the clip or that's the quote that David Sacks chose. And I think in doing that, he's signaling like this is not my culture. Your guys' values are not per se my values. But I see you as Americans. I see you as countrymen.

And I want to use my influence and my wealth to promote your interests because you and I have alignment on these issues. and they're my interests as well. So I will take them on and I'll represent you. This is a patronage relationship. You don't get picky about your patrons when you have a dearth of patrons. If someone's offering to be your patron, you accept it. And then you fulfill your bargain and you can maybe renegotiate down the line once you've demonstrated yourself a worthy client. So we've had all these guys who are crying out for patronage.

Well, here it is. Here's an opportunity. You can take a microscope to your patron and just reveal that your, you don't have nearly the leverage that you think you do and you'll just get kicked to the side because the last thing you want is these guys to make an offer of patronage and they just get spit at and they're like, all right, well, fuck you then.

You know, just go die somewhere and I'm going to move on without you. Yeah, go ahead, Chris. Yeah, just and not to belabor the point. Like, we're not saying, like, these guys aren't perfect. We all want a white Buckele who really cares about the 14th. words, but, you know, we have openings and we're going to take them.

And as we're taking the openings, we're going to cheer on the guys who are giving us those openings. Does it mean, we agree with everything that they do or have done. What it means is that we're going to get something done and we're going to have a damn good time doing it. Yeah. Couldn't have said it better myself. You know, especially us here at the OGC who are trying our damned us to,

organize in real life and move stuff off of just, you know, yelling at politicians from behind screens. We're actually trying to get involved and get our guys in positions of power where they can make a difference and take advantage of this opportunity where it looks like Trump is about to have the mandate of heaven to rule in the fall here and could radically change this country in ways we haven't seen since any right-wing administration, most certainly in my lifetime, arguably ever in the history of this country if we play our cards right i'm not going to spit in peter teal's face if he decides to back o gc in the future with some big bucks and say

oh well jd vance married a jeet and therefore you guys aren't our guy so fuck you that's just being stupid that's not being tactically wise and that's just being a dick to the closest thing we've had to friends in the administration of the next president of the United States. So read the room, fellas. We understand all the stuff that you guys are going off about. We get it. We understand these guys aren't perfect, but we have to start somewhere. Absolutely. All righty. Let's get through a bunch of these super chats that have been piling up. Thank you as always, gentlemen. And then we will be listening to the president speak at the top of the hour. hopefully he's going to have an absolute banger of a speech i've heard and again uh all rumors and such

apparently he's not even going to mention biden once uh in the entire speech and he tore up his whole original one he was going to give so i don't know uh it could be anything that he's going to talk about really i have no idea what angle he's going to take it'll be really really interesting to say the least i hope he wears the um the bandage uh over his ear as well uh during the speech to hammer the point home but that's besides the point um all right scrolling back to the top here we've got three dollars from jackalope uh happy birthday godfrey of booleen uh first christian king of jerusalem well happy birthday indeed um mona for two bucks nuance is a luxury in war mutant hashtag 12 oh yeah this is no doubt in the discussion we were

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working class people. It's just, you know, it could be made more clear than that, you know, the kinds of people that are, on both sides. Yeah, it's just the Mystery Grove publishing meme just every time. Communism is when

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That's us all caught up. The president should be entering the stage shortly here. I don't know if he's quite there yet. But when he takes the stage, we're going to switch the stream over there and we're going to listen to what Trump has to say in his speech. But I guess in the meantime, something we can talk about. Obviously, I just call it the horrible choices that the R&C has been making as it relates to speakers. I mean, we've had black porn stars. We've got no, yeah, I didn't realize that she had that tattoo on her face until I saw this picture before the stream.

But my God, why? Why? you know i think it actually is kind of a good thing to show up though that the the actual rnc party apparatus um is just this gay and those people are really just this terrible i can't imagine that well i mean we all know that trump definitely did not have a um you know a hand in actually putting together the rnc i mean the candidate never has um you know what's going on with the actual party apparatus and we all know that the rnc has been fighting trump of tooth and claw ever since the beginning. I mean, people were backing Nikki Haley. They were backing Ron DeSantis. They were backing

anyone with a pulse to avoid what's going on with Trump. So it's kind of a nice contrast to show that, oh, this is the gay R&C. And then this is Donald Trump with his fist in the air, blood on his face, looking at the American flag. Orrin McIntyre said just a little bit ago, he tweeted, yes, of course, the political convention is cringe. This isn't an event of high culture. It's a pep rally. And somebody in my in my live chat today said that it's basically like, the VFW. That's the culture that's there. These people are there having the time of their life. The purpose of the convention is to get the base all rallied up and and also to project the most wide appeal possible. It is part of why politics is such a dirty, gross game. But that is what it is.

The RNC is responsible for getting the absolute most votes possible. That's the only, only responsibility they have. Get the most votes possible. Get them elected. Use it as a vehicle. Now, obviously, having, I'm really not a fan of having a Hindu prayer, but I saw today that they also had, they let off tonight with a prayer to St. Michael the Archangel. So it was very bad when they did the prayer to the Hindu God. It's very good when they do the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel. I have my, I have my St. Michael coin right here with my St. Michael prayer right next to me. me whenever I record. Yeah.

So yeah. There's, everyone knows that R&C is gay. Like this has been the whole problem. So what we're seeing now, I think, is the sort of thing that can be, that can be, it can be done pragmatically.

And I kind of, I suspect that a lot of the people that are, there's obviously the old guard in there who are still wanting all of this. And much of the new guard is kind of ambivalent to it. They don't really care. They're like, oh, there's mass appeal for it. Let's do this. So, yeah.

I think the other thing I'll bring up is, if anyone remembers the, the 2012 R&C, when they brought up pretty much every single, like, Latino Republican they could possibly find and gave their speeches in Spanish. Like, I remember Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, like, all of them are up there giving speeches in Spanish and everything. I mean, this isn't exactly anything new for the RNC about. I mean, it's it's the convention. It's, you know, it's whatever.

But one thing we can talk about is I want to know who is making these signs and I want to get one. I want to stick it right on my front lawn, stick it in my back window of my truck. Like who is the guy making this mass deportation now sign? I need to find him and give him a promotion because, man, oh man, this is great. Yeah, I mean, it's it's amazing that these were being handed out at the, uh, at the RNC, right? Like, like Matt was just saying,

the RNC is gayer than Christmas. And like they, like the Hindu prayer and the, the, the prostitute and like just the most filthy degenerates that they have in the RNC. And yet this somehow makes it in,

like, what's going on here? I could just imagine it was like one of, one of, I don't know, maybe it was one of our guys, you know, that secretly weasled his way in. It was Doug the intern, stuck his way in there and was handing out these signs to people in the crowd, you know, because I actually wouldn't really be surprised if it was something to that effect. Because if you guys have been to Trump rallies before, they definitely don't like check you for any of the signage you're bringing in. They're like the Secret Service guys. They're just checking if you're bringing in weapons and stuff like that.

I mean, you know, this is how you get those like clips where leftists like walking with like flags and say like Trump is Hitler or something stupid. You know, I mean, they don't care. So I'm imagining easily somebody could have weaseled their way in there. I was just handing these out to everybody. Because, you know, if you're in the audience, people like having a sign. That's it, you know? Like, oh, cool, I've got a sign. I can wave it.

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the most recent Trump rally I attended a couple months back. I wrote about this. on the OGCM substack at the time. I kind of did after action report of my experience at the most recent rally. But I try to get a chant going in the audience of send them back quite a few times. And it was met with very lukewarm response by a bunch of people. So I don't know if the signs would make it better. I imagine it makes it seem like more official and such. And I don't know.

If someone is in the business of making signage or anything, anything like this, definitely start doing that. So I am seeing on twatter the shitlibs freaking out because of the send them back chance that we're going on today at the RNC. So progress. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, I think someone made the point earlier about how, you know, quote unquote, our guys are complaining about canceling Home Depot.

employees and everything, and yet you're going to send people, you have the stomach for mass deportations. Yeah, Thomas has this, Thomas has this phrase he uses all the time. He says, you're just not cut out for this. I mean, just keep posting memes. Keep posting memes and, you know, keep the commentary to yourself. If you feel like the need to counter signal, we'll just block you. it's not because we're triggered

it's not be no it's because you're counter signaling fuck you I mean seriously fuck you if you if you don't trust us if you don't trust that we that we know what we're doing

that we see a path forward well then I mean why are you why you followed us this doesn't make any sense to me yeah it's an excellent point Pete I mean like it seems like to a lot of guys who are going out of their way to

counter signal and just like well actually stuff and what about whatever it's like i don't know why you guys are here in the chat then like do you think it's just like a game like do you not want to make any progress do you not want to change anything or just like want to be right all the time like wave your finger and such it's it's so weird to me like if if you think we're all like dumb idiots and you need to say in the chat for the 500th time that oh, JD Vance married a jeet. It's like, okay? I mean, what?

You're just telling me this now for the first time? Wow, I've never heard that before. I mean, come on. Oh, you mean you guys can't see through this sciop? I mean, go fuck yourself. John Doyle. Go fuck yourself. John Doyle tweeted,

you must understand that most of the people you'll listen to between now and November want to lose the election. Like how all these leftist outlets, that's had layoffs after Trump, right-wing pundits, do better when Americans are losing, more anxious than looking for answers. So there is a, I think he's exactly right. There's a strong incentive for certain characters to black pill and to counter signal because it's their currency.

It's the thing that establishes their celebrity or their influence or whatever. The worst thing is the minions who echo them. I can understand, at least on some level, if you're like, hey, I'm trying to protect my own interests. take it's shitty. I think you're an enemy, but I understand it. If you're just some, some anonymous dude with, with 11 followers who just feels this compulsive desire to just, to just, yeah, then I don't get it. How did your brain break? Just fuck off. Go away. There's nothing in this for you. You're annoying. You're gay. We don't want to be around you. Can we pipe in the audio here for this crowd.

They're all nice. That's cool. I mean, those images of Trump and I mean, like you mentioned earlier, Curtis,

about like Trump being courageous and calm under fire. I mean, like saying fight, fight, fight. I mean, those images go hard, man. I don't remember who it was who said it,

but somebody made the point that was really interesting and actually chilling was if Trump really thought that a coup was underway, maybe he thought when he climbed into that SUV with those people. Maybe the reason he tried to delay it so long was that he was never getting out of that SUV alive. Yeah, it's certainly an interesting point. Now, I mean, God only knows what is going to Trump's mind.

I know that's a conspiracy theory. All you all you special boys in the comment in the chat. I know it's a conspiracy theory. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it is kind of funny. I saw this, obviously, as this picture was going around a bunch, did anyone see the joke meme? It was like, oh, I didn't know Glenn Greenwald was on Trump's Secret Service detail.

Yeah, it does remarkably look like him. And I also have to love how the guy on the far left here is like literally like the Fed meme. It was like, like, hello, fellow right winger. You know, the image that was up there just a little bit ago, you had the, the, the, the, the UNC guys that were standing there holding the flag. Oh, yeah. And this is a, I think this is a really illustrative example of the, if you, if you truly internalize the stop fucking blackpilling and no counter signaling message, then what this is here is this is a bunch of white boys who are standing with the American flag and it looks fucking awesome. Who cares what, what. they're representing, the aesthetics

is what matters. This is what's being normalized as mainstream and desirable. That's good. That's the narrative. That's how we mythologize it. Yeah, I mean, the guy who's actually holding the flag in that stern look, man. That guy needs to make it

like his PFP literally for forever. That is amazing. Yeah, and that that's the best point. The aesthetics is what attracts people to our cause. The aesthetics of the future that we promise. The clean, safe streets, the people who aren't fat because they're loaded with poison.

The subways not being infested with homeless people from the third world. Like, this is the future we have to work for. So again, quit complaining. We're making steps, boys. Be happy about it. Oh man, you know what? I'll give credit to CSS Virginia in the chat because our boys at WBS Apparel better like make a promo of this right now. Like use that guy who's using that flag.

You know, this is white boy summer material right here, man. Also, the way he's holding it is very, very reminiscent of the fashis. Yeah. I will say this, though. When we win, we are outlawing zoomer broccoli hair. that is, you know, that's, this cannot be tolerated. Just wait till we have a president

with Zuma broccoli hair. Oh, well, I mean, that's gonna be the 14 words guy. I think J.D. Vance is the first president or vice president in the major parties to have facial hair in like 150 years. Really?

Yeah. Oh, I'd have to think about that. Yeah. Yeah, good point. The one that really comes to my mind is Teddy Roosevelt, but there might be somebody's sooner, but that's over 100 years because he left office in 197. Yeah, it's an interesting point, Pete.

It's been over 100 years. It's pretty wild. Yeah, much less not just facial here, but like a full beard. That would be, would that be like Ulysses? Would that be the last one that had a full beard? Yeah, now I'm thinking about it. There's a remarkable shortage of U.S. presidents that have facial hair. Hmm.

Interesting point. Man, I guess they're getting, yes again, Ray. There's Hulk Hogan talking with J.D. Vance, J.D. Vance's wife and, um, uh, Oh, there she is. It really, it really is just a very odd, odd. these conventions are just odd just put it that way I mean I'll

I'll never ever knock Donald Trump for his taste in women Melania Trump is just an absolutely gorgeous woman yeah she seems she seems shark too like she's not oh yeah she speaks like five languages or something or six languages or something I mean that's most people who do that aren't retarded you know stupid

Yeah, you can see Vance is very comfortable with her too. You know, he put his hand on either her arm or the smaller her back there, which is, it's good. It means that he and Trump are close, right? Yeah, it is small the back, yeah. Yeah, it's intimate. Yeah, very. We can pump in the audio when Trump comes on the stage. But, yeah, that clip of Barron, I'm sure you guys saw that that was making the rounds.

on Twitter all week when Barron was in Trump Tower when he was like four years old and Donald's like, all right, now remember when you grow up, you know, no cigarettes, no drugs, no tattoos, no alcohol. How does Trump feel about Zinn? That's what I want to know.

Oh, yeah, yeah. We need our top agents. Did you see the picture of Tucker? Yeah, it was a gigantic one. Someone brought it in with a fucking helicopter. Amazing. Well, Tucker has been I'm pro tobacco. Many times he's talked about smoking pipes and such,

so I'm not surprised by that at all. I'm not going to pipe the whole time. Oh, well, there you go. Have you seen Tucker on Theo Vaughn? No. That is a incredibly good conversation. I was rolling within the first like 10 minutes of it. They have a, you wouldn't necessarily expect it,

but they actually have really good chemistry. And they talk at the very beginning about Zen and Tucker. Tucker talks about how it's a very good male performance enhancer. And then they're just riffing off each other for like two hours. And the comments were pretty interesting. It was a lot of people who were like, wow, this made me, like I didn't know Tucker could get down like this. This made me look at Tucker

in a whole new way. He's actually a pretty decent guy. There's people who are like, these guys need to have a regular show. It's very, very good. I'd highly recommend people watch it. Yeah, it's pretty funny. They were going off each, playing off each other very well. it's interesting how they've got this like 50 year montage of Donald Trump being in the public light. I mean, uh, you know, we, we talked about on the show about how Trump is definitely getting older and it seems to have lost a step a little bit compared to like the 2016 energy. But I still got to tell you, man. I mean, he looks good for his age, especially in comparison to like, uh, fucking Biden for shown of pictures of him every single day.

Oh, here we go. Here's home alone. Classic. There he is. This golden hair. Oh, the moment. No, God, Trump, this has to be from his years and years of being on TV, but the man just has an absolute flavor for aesthetics. I mean, coming down the escalator, amazing, the mugshot, amazing.

Do you guys remember that January 6th photo of him where he had like the black glove and he was walking down like the line with the American flag in the background and like, bearing his teeth a bit. Obviously, the amazing pictures at the assassination attempt from just this last week. I mean, the guy definitely knows how to put on a show, that's for sure. The most aesthetic president of all time. Oh, it's up there for sure. Let's see. Matt sends us five bucks.

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fucking back let's fucking let's fucking go best white boy summer ever by the way uh zen winter green you know i i i mean everyone's gonna yell at me in the chat and everything but um i i i understand why people enjoy zin but it's just uh it's not for me no it's yeah the winter greens are too sweet anyway Uh, cinnamon, chill. I just picked up a tin of coffee. Citrus. Those are the good flavors. Those are the patrician flavors.

Hmm. I don't know. Maybe it's just because I've, every time I've tried, I've gone for the sixes, but, you know, it's,

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I don't know. Maybe, maybe I'll have to try, um, uh, once a kid or something. Look at this. It's like slipping up banana peels.

Is this RNC doing a game review? Yeah, apparently. I guess this is supposed to be like the secret layers. Like you guys know like naked gun where Leslie Nielsen walks in. It's like all like the big bads of the 1980s. That sort of looked like.

That was like I guess I was supposed to be Putin and the other one was supposed to be like some ISIS cave layer or something like that. They've got some ISIS guys watching on a flat screen TV. Yeah. Reminds me of when, what was it like, was it Osama bin Laden who had a bunch of porn or something like that in the, in the cave, they raided them and there was a bunch of, yes,

it brought that back to mind thinking about a bunch of, a bunch of towel heads sitting around with, with like, high tech inside a, inside a cave. Trump Vance. That has a nice ring to it. Much better than Pence, I'll tell you that much. Thank you.