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let's introduce the rest of the panel this evening. I've got returning once again, Mr. Not Me, Not You. How are you, sir? Doing wonderfully. Glad to be back. Yeah, always pleasure to have you. And then once again, we got Pete Quinonez coming back.

It's almost like you're the, you're like one of the co-hosts lately, Pete. I think you've been out for like two months straight. Apparently, it's always nice to have you. Yeah, I got to take a break maybe next week. We'll see what happens. Good to be here. All right. And then we've got a raging mandrel joining us once again with his new laser eyes,

PFP. I like it. Yeah, I was a pure pressured into making a laser eyes like everybody else. So, you know, I have to uphold the aesthetic of the stream, I guess. Indeed. indeed dark mega rising and we got a special guest this evening we got uh dave the distributors is with us tonight how are you dave hey guys yeah um been traveling but made time for the stream thanks yeah fantastic so uh gentlemen let us not waste any more time get right into it so as the

title of the stream i was alluded to tonight um tomorrow is a very very special day in uh history for guys and our side of the thing it is the exact 10 years to the day that the infamous zoie kwin post was made. So and this is kind of like a seminal moment in our thing because this is largely what everyone counts as the official kickoff and start of Gamergate. And no doubt, I mean, certainly most of us here on this panel. I mean, I know Pete, you've been in this thing for a long time before the rest of us. But I mean, it was certainly a huge moment for a lot of like the younger guys in our sphere for sure. I mean, Charlotte Maine is going to elude this in his article tomorrow about how it kind of was one of those forming moments for a lot of us where we

realized they were actually like sides uh to this thing i won't give away too much more of uh charlie's piece people can go read it tomorrow it's really excellent but you know it really was like a awakening moment for a lot of guys uh in our thing you know anyone else got any uh opening remarks on uh gamer gate the lasting effects on it and whatnot do people need a review of the history of this time period i i think it kind of just it's it was a long time ago people forget those 2014 10 years ago I mean, I think really what GamerGate was was people becoming aware of the changes in the culture that had started taking root in 2012 and that were becoming more apparent in most creative spaces. But somehow they didn't really come to a head or become visible until they tried to cross into the video games area. And before this, I think starting in 2013, there was the whole Anita Sarkeesian phenomenon.

And then starting with the whole Zoe Quinn stuff, GamerGate kind of took on a mind of its own. It started with Zoe Quinn. I think that's kind of a red herring. The Gamer Gate didn't really start until all the publications collectively published pieces decrying gamers as an identity when they felt that the narrative was getting out of hand. And that, I think, triggered in the minds of a lot of people and awareness of the media classes' behavior and their interests and how it was simultaneously totally aligned with itself and totally disaligned from the desires of the consumer base that they were supposedly attached to, which triggered an enormous amount of self-examination politically for young men at that time. Yeah, I mean, for my part, I was paying close attention to Gamergate when it was going on. And it really did prime me for what I consider to be my political awakening, which was the Trayvon Martin case.

When CNN was doing its yellow journalism during that case, all I could see were parallels to what I had been kind of like, woken up to through the Gamergate fiasco. And I think you're absolutely right, Dave. It was a lot of- But wasn't Trayvon Martin a few years before, though? I think you made thinking of Michael Brown. Michael Brown was afterwards, right? This is so I get the timelines straight in my mind, right?

I think Martin was 2015. No, no, because that was during, oh, I don't know. I think Michael Brown. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think Dave might be right. Might have them switched. I don't know. Because, like, I remember Trayvon Martin was, it was like either just, at the start of Obama's second term or maybe at the end of his first term because it was right

when Obama started becoming openly racial in his politics in the White House. You guys are absolutely right. Just after his first inauguration or second inauguration. Yeah, Martin was 2012. Brown was 2014. So it was the same year was Michael Brown. I guess I had it the other way around then. But, you know, it's the point still stands, I guess.

Yeah. I wish I had something on this. I was at the stage of everything is faking gay at that point. So like if I read anything online, I was like, this is faking gay. Here's a meme. Laugh at it. Yeah. Any comments to say, Mandrill, we were talking about this quite a bit the other night in one of the group chats.

Yeah, I mean, this is a primary moment of awakening, as other people have said. and like there were some inklings previously in the culture I think before that point like maybe a year or two before where a lot of people kind of got rubbed the wrong way by Obama era progressivism but not enough where that it was like directly you know the meme of well how does this affect you personally well actually this does affect people personally because this is like I laugh at the meme that's on screen right now because it was like Like, this is literally impacting your hobbies. Every single hobby, every single nerd hobby that you ever could possibly have had was, like, impacted by the same processes, the same forces that caused Gamergate in the first place.

So it was inevitable in a way. Yeah, I think Dave, you said recently that the reason that the left was able to take over nerd culture is because nerd culture was always kind of a surrogate religion or a stand-in for. for religion. And people on the right didn't get that because they have a religion, most of them. Whereas people on the left are making... Ready for huge savings? Well, mark your calendars from November 28th to 30th

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and the creation of this technology, that it would forever stay with them as kind of their, a place that reflected their own values and desires. And Gamergate was the first, I mean, you could see this kind of coming apart before this. Do you remember Coffee Gate?

This happened a few years before. With the creation of the atheism plus, I think it happened in 2013. The elevator gate thing. I remember elevator gate. Yeah. All right. Well, yeah.

With, what's her name, Watson? I forget her first name is. There's no her last name, right? Rebecca Watson. Rebecca Watson, yes. So you could see that these things like atheism and video games and Jaws, Sweden and Marvel movies to a certain effect, these were seen as sort of the extension of the straight young man's ego

into the internet sphere to be popularized by modern culture and to be essentially be an extension of their own value system. But what was apparent during GamerGate was that this would be a subservoration. assumed to the broader political perspectives of the cathedral, the media class in the universities. And then at this point, young men were expected to hand over whatever influence they had to be submitted to this ideological apparatus. And Gamergate was a moment when a lot of these young men just refused to hand over what they saw as an online space that belonged to them.

And this precipitated in a kind of crazy division of the space, of social media space, to which it's very, very hard to convince people that there was ever a time when you would all be on a Facebook community with all of your progressive wine ants and your insufferable activist friends from college. They would all be on one space discussing politics. Gamergate was essentially the end of that or the beginning at the end of that probably the end being COVID. Well, it also kind of heralded like the era of

just woke video games being produced. I remember after that it was the main joke was how many walking simulators came out about disabled people and how they would get the the you know, all these accolades from Kotaku and all these other rags. Do you remember Gone Home?

And anyone else by that video game? I remember it very well. I run Linux and it always pops up as one of the few things on my Steam library that can run in Linux. So I have that perpetually as a reminder that I paid $30 for a 50 minute video game that was a progressive commercial about LGBT rights. You know, I think something interesting to this discussion is, well, it's now 10 years later. And actually what has been the effect on GamerGay and also where are some of the major figures now 10 years out? I mean, one of the things we can immediately point to that was produced from GamerDate was, I mean, it launched like a million online right to YouTube creators careers, basically. It also launched an entire scene of, which you still have to this day of like the nerd erotic sphere and like critical drinker.

stuff these guys that just like react to the next like woke video game or woke movie or what have you and such i mean it definitely launched the career of a friend of ours a certain carl benjamin no and uh no a lot of the other um you know a bug bears of that day for him like anita sarkeesian and such are now like in the dustbin of history basically because their you know ideology has led them to the logical conclusion of single you know 40s millennial cat lady. I mean, didn't Anita Sarkeesian to like marry herself last year, had like a wedding party and such? Yeah, she had a wedding themed birthday party, which was very depressing to look at. But yeah, I mean, it is interesting to see like which creators from those days are still around.

I mean, we all remember a couple of years back. Morgoth put out that article when the internet stopped laughing. And it was about Mr. Medocer who had his big upswing during this whole, this whole Gamergate fiasco as well. There's so much rugby on Sports Extra from Sky, they've asked me to read the whole lad at the same speed I usually use for the legal bit at the end. Here goes.

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Get Sports Extra on Sky for 15 euro a month for 12 months. Search Sports Extra. New Sports Extra customers only. Standard Pressing applies after 12 months for the terms apply. Can I, as somebody who really wasn't following it when it was happening, who can tie it to Trump coming to power? Trump, a bunch of people deciding that they were going to get behind Trump. Who can tie that together? So I think tying it with what Dave was saying about this being a lot of young men's

awakening into the way that the media works. If you see the image on screen, the character there, I can't remember her name. Vivian James. Vivian James. She represents Furchan. The colors were representative of Fortunes. Fawtian is where those disaffected young men being, berated by the left wing, started to slowly morph into political animals.

And at the time that Gamergate was going on, the infamous board poll, politically incorrect, was actually not on 4chan. It was in and it was removed and it was added again later. And a lot of those people ended up shifting their obsession and autism surrounding video games. games to politics. And I think a lot of them were able to take the things that they learned through GamerGate and kind of look at the media, the political media through that exact same lens. And I think that, I mean, we all remember the memes of 2016 and the influence that the

Chans had on the culture of the time. Yeah, I can kind of extend on that too. I think, again, I'm just kind of going on vibes here. But leading up into 2012, if you were a young guy in a red area or from a conservative culture, the idea always was that you were going to kind of make it big by defecting and kind of being a hicclyb, although the war didn't exist then. And that somehow you were going to be subsumed by a broader kind of urban culture or a mainstream culture that was ready to accept you for being a creative individual. and that you'd have a role in that, like a piece of that broader plan. Now, what happened to Gamergate was that immediately the left began to see these young men that would ordinarily have made a transition to being probably moderate progressives as being an enemy.

And this triggered a backlash from the left that then fed into a further backlash from this demographic of young white men to see the progressive cause and urban mainstream culture generally as being a thing that had no place for them. There would never be a place for you in this vision of the future. And your only role was to create something different or to rebel against it or to take it over. And in that way, to answer Pete's question, I think that is the real connection between Gamergate and the Trump revolution. It's the same as the breaking away of the white working class from the Democratic Party. It was the sudden cultural realization that there was a kind of person that just did not have a place on the left as anything other than someone who just handed over things to people who weren't them and was the butt of all their jokes and the ultimate scapegoat for all of the world's problems.

Yeah. Yeah. Excellently. Sorry about it. No, no. It excellently put. I mean, it really was one of those moments where like journals. I've,

I've, I've, I've, I've unfortunately muted everyone else in the chat with that, but I think that's more or less what, what I remember it being is, and this is also why cultural war issues

always trump economics, in my opinion, because they prefigure political realignments, whereas economic signifiers always seem to backload the political realignment. They happen afterwards. The culture war things come in first.

Eventually, it would become a very, very apparent that the Democratic Party was the enemy of the white working class after the Trump Revolution. But in 2014, you couldn't really see that unless you were looking at battles that were going on in Gamergate. Well, the other thing that Gamergate gave us were, like, I'd almost call them like GamerGate adjacent issues. Something that comes to my mind is something like the M2 move. movement, you know, which definitely had some of it's like germination outside of a gamer gay. People remember things like mattress girl, the Duke Lacrosse scandal and such. And then this later took on a whole new life of its own with the eventual election of Trump in 2016 and then the Brack-Cavanaugh trials. And what was that, 17 or 18? Those were. Those examples were really

interesting, the ones you just mentioned there. Because it's trajectory, you might not have realized it because the Duke lacrosse up was really early. This was in what 2005, 2006, I think, right? 2006. And the message of the Duke lacrosse things was that justice prevails, right? Justice prevails because there was initially a bad allegation and all of the university professors completely overreacted and kicked these guys out of school and made them a living hell. There lies of living hell. And but then eventually the mainstream media came in, the cooler heads came in and these guys were vindicated. And I remember that being the lesson. And I remember being in my atheist phase at the time thinking, this means discourse works.

When it gets to Madras Girl and then Brett Kavanaugh, what you see is the system never working. Obvious false allegations just go unaddressed. The apologetics that would exonerate people is essentially, ignored. The media just runs continuously with a false rape allegation. I mean, everyone knows that Brett Kavanaugh did not rape that woman, but the media ran with it anyway. And there's never any accountability. There's never any justice for it. So that itself, you can see that transformation going from 2006, the 2016 with Mattress Girl to 2000 and, what was it, 19 with Brett Kavanaugh.

Well, in between that, if anyone remembers the Rolling Stone article about the, like the frat house party gang rape that was a, it was a third party fabrication. I remember the media ran with that for quite some time before it came out. The whole thing was essentially just made up. And it, like, the way that it all stems, it jumps from one false narrative to the next, starting with people, I guess, paying attention to it in Gamergate. I mean, if anyone even remembers, it seems like this time was just a wash in the height of feminists screaming things about rape culture.

Obama himself came out and talked about rape culture. And I remember at the time, Rain, which is like the rape and incest network, like sent an open letter to the White House telling them to stop. It was complete madness. Rape and Incess Network sounds like a television channel. It's a Discord server. Hops and Wild. Wild and hops.

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on that were going on in the culture from multiple different fronts uh you know another thing we could talk about speaking of jernos is um the whole gawker uh incident with like hall kogan and then um uh somebody like a peter teal getting involved we could touch on that in a moment but what you had were was many fronts of you know what we would now call today like i guess like the total state right infringing on uh everything and it was like the mean that we all like to say like we just wanted to play our video and now so many of our guys and our thing are literally going to spend the rest of their lives destroying you know the opposition at this point just because we want to be left alone. Well, I think you're saying also is it change like you're saying between

Mattress girl and the Duke lacrosse and Kurt, the Calvinaw hearings, you're saying a changing of the guard inside the mainstream media inside the university system, inside the government where it used to control itself or be able to control itself. And now it can't. And I think I think guys, I mean, I would say the GamerGate is consequence, an early consequence of the competency crisis. It's a downstream. Oh, yeah. I think we can definitely say this was a huge blunder by the regime that they allowed this

huge right-wing backlash to happen from, well, I wouldn't even call it necessarily right-wing, even though it definitely became that into the future. But this is definitely a huge blunder on the part of the regime. That is without question. And that definitely carries over into Gawker, too. the fact that they couldn't see what was coming is that leads to the competency too. Competency and overconfidence. Just thinking, oh, we own this bitch.

Everything, you know, we can do whatever we want. And then you have someone like Teal who is like the Machiavellian, Machiavellians, Machiavellian behind the scenes, just pulling the strings on this. And they, it was too late before they saw it coming. I've actually done a lot of a lot of reading and some writing on the gawker thing. And it's, I mean, he had their, it was completely incompetent. But it was incompetence and overconfidence all at the same time. When you, when you're not taking an L, you just expect the Ws to keep piling up.

And, yeah, somebody got them. What's amazing about it is that they don't seem to have learned. Since the Gawker incident, like multiple large media organizations just keep shuddering and selling and having massive layoffs. And, you know, it's, you know, we're saying a lot now the purpose of the system is what it does. I don't think the purpose of the media is to make itself look like a bunch of clowns and then shutter their doors. I think they're just, like you said, Pete, they're just rocks by the competency crisis. They're just loaded with sycophantic bio-Leninism incarnate. Well, they're obsolete.

That's the problem is they're obsolete. Their model is obsolete. I mean, this government model that we have is obsolete. That's why it's falling apart. That's why you have people stepping up who, their whole, they've made their billions off of getting competent people to come in and create products that people want. That's why they want to take over. They see that if this, that something has to change, that they have to bring competent people in, but also they have to change the system because this,

it's all obsolete. It can't work if it's obsolete. You can have the best people in there. You can have the best journalists in the world that have the greatest words. And it's not going to work. That's why all of this is falling apart because none of this is for 2024. All of this stuff is for the, you know, the early aughts and even the late 90s. Yeah, uh, absolutely. I mean, I'll say from like my own, um, personal, you know, uh, moment like throughout the Gamergate thing. I think a lot of, uh, the zoomers of the audience might not quite understand because like the Gamer

game or game phenomenon really was a millennial, uh, like white men, uh, issue. You know, it, it's, it's, I think it's one of the seminal. for millennial guys in our thing. And it really was a time when we didn't really just know the complete malfeasance of journalists yet at this time. You know, like we didn't have the moments like we were seeing in 2016 just to blame all out falseholds all the time. And then from these moments from like 2012 up until like 2014 when they were in our thing, calling absolutely everybody racist and such because, you know, like, oh, the fact that women dress up at bikinis and video games is therefore sexist and you guys are all horrible. And now we have to inject all of this progressive language and dogma into your like your thing, which has literally been your thing for forever.

And just like painting people in such a false light that wasn't actually them. And I think another thing that people don't remember is, I don't know if Mandrill and Curtis here, I don't know if you guys, did you guys like have subscriptions like game informer and such back then? Because I definitely did when I was growing up in that era. It was like like journal who were supposed to be on our side like in our thing and such. and we were just exposed to how blatantly corrupt they were. So I didn't have a game in former subscription, but I did sell them for a time. Oh, really? Interesting.

No, I totally didn't. Yeah, but what do you guys think about as well as like, I mean, Curtis was mentioning this before about how they just haven't seemed to learn any of the tactics? I mean, you'll still see articles coming out like today, like Gamergate still looms like over like Gamergate 2.0. I take a run like three or four point at this point or something. It seems like every two or three years with the new like woke video game to come out, you know, oh, the specter Gamergate still haunts, you know, the gaming industry.

We need to continue our working against diversity and what have you. Well, they kind of didn't learn, but they kind of did. This is, um, when Gamergate came around about when it happened, it was one of a series of happenings that indicated that I know that people don't like this word, but I love using it, the cathedral, the media establishment and educational establishment and government establishment could not control themselves or moderate themselves in any way. So you'll still have these hysterical articles coming out in mainstream publications that are totally tone deaf and you wonder who's reading them. But at the same time,

the progressive, or the progressive mainstream did realize in one way, shape, or form that it had to recapture and reappeal to the white male demographic in order to maintain stability. And so what I see as sort of the solution post-Gamergate was to sell, was essentially to sell people on either being degenerate radicals like the Vosches or the destinies or the El Chapo trappazas or on the other end of the generational divide, sell people on a false vision of normalcy, which is the whole Tim Woltz phenomenon. And that is the system reacting. But gone or any of the times when I think the mainstream can sell a solution to young

white men or young men generally, that they're going to have a place in a cultural power structure that respects them. There's so much rugby on sports extra from Sky, they've asked me to read the whole lot at the same speed I usually use for the legal bit at the end. Here goes. This winter sports extra is jampacked with rugby. For the first time we've been every Champions Cup match exclusively live, plus action from the URC, the Challenge Cup, and much more.

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even though the sphere was around for some time before this a couple decades. But the whole like gender discourse that you still have like the between male and female, which seems to just be ramping up every single year at this point because the problems are just unignorable at this point. It was another one of those germination moments for a lot of guys like, oh, I've been told my entire adult life, this is the behavior that women are going to have. And then when you have somebody like Zoe Quinn who, you know, again, go read Charlemagne's article tomorrow for the exact 10 year date of that post. That's a really, really good piece. But it's like, oh, we have this idea of this is how people behave.

And then when we are shown and lied to and like the actual mass comes off like, oh, great. Now we're now we're screwed. Big word salad right there. But, no. Any other conclusions that we have on Gamergate guys, before we move on. Well, there were a lot of like, like we were saying earlier, there are a lot of really great things that came out of it. Like the fact that it was a political awakening for a lot of millennial men and really kind of peeled them off into the right wing, although Dave was right about the realignment and the containment that the regime was able to make in response eventually. you know, we wouldn't have Carl Benjamin and a lot of the people who spawned out of his,

his influence. Like if, if we remember the OGC in an indirect way owes its existence to Carl Benjamin making videos tearing down Anita Sarkeesian, which is really fucking stupid. Yeah. I mean, Carl. We wouldn't, we wouldn't, we wouldn't know who Ian Miles Chong is either. Thanks, go. Listen, I was trying to make this a good thing.

Oh, okay, okay. Okay, actually, this is a great end note for the Gamergate discussion because I have to go in 10 minutes. I couldn't let you guys go without answering this question. So there is, there is a broader question about whether there was sort of cleanse that destined elite involvement in Gamergate. and one figure that has confounded me about this period, who's recently reemerged, and definitely I don't think is a good actor,

what do we do with the Brianna Wu question? Oh, that woman. Yeah, that pile extraordinary woman? I mean, okay, a lizard person, what do you want me to, I mean, the space alien? Did she come back on the same? seen recently, Dave? I must have missed this. Oh, yeah. Everywhere, everywhere. Brianna Wu's peddling

something called progressive victory and has been caught. She's been caught giving a money to essentially bread tube and moderate centrist stramers in order for them to push Democratic Party lines. Well, didn't he, didn't he run for Congress somewhere? Interesting. Didn't he run for some kind of state rep thing? They did. I think there was some they were involved with some kind of Yeah, they were they were involved with some kind of election at some point. I think they lost the seat there's a mayor was a mayoral run right like Boston or something like that. Oh, maybe I forgot that they were

definitely involved the Democratic Party in some ways. Well I mean this was also my first experience with like trunes being like center stage for anything was uh when brianne woo was being platformed by all of these uh these defenses of of of quinn and what was going on in gamer gay but d bring it back to what you were saying how does brianna wu have the money to spread around uh shit libs on on bread tube well this obviously working for the democratic party that's apparent I guess but it's weird that this this Gamergate character has reemerged

yeah I mean they can't all die ignoble deaths where they're throwing their own wedding that's that I look I look this up just just to clarify factual information Brianna Wu is the vice president not the founder

just I don't know in case that in case we have to deal with legal liability about describing this organization. I didn't know she was involved in the top of it, but I had heard nothing, like I've heard all kinds of stuff about this, you know, organization she's running.

It's been popping up a lot in, Manistro Circles, this progressive action stuff. So interesting. I didn't know she was in charge of it, but, but yeah, like we said,

all of them are, they come back like the T-1000, right? Not all of them are like feminist frequency that shut down after seven years, you know. I was about to, to say Red Hawk, I was about to agree with your point there because this is like, you know, in a horror movie, the villain just doesn't die. You know, they just don't go down and take some three or four times to the head, you know, they just don't go away. You know, similar to Jason Storhees and Brianna Wu continued. Yeah. I do remember seeing this exact meme, like the original feminist frequency channel. And then I saw one like when it shut down and they updated the meme, but all the women gained like 25 pounds.

So they made like all the push here and such. Yeah, when you saw, they actually released a picture of them like this. And I mean, it was just the worst kind of catfish bullshit you'd ever seen in your life. And they were just all disgusting and gross. Yeah, there was a lot made out of this logo when it was released because Anita Sarkeesian's whole thing is screeching about the unrealistic representation of women in video games. And then they elect to represent themselves as you see here. What you're sold versus what you get.

Yeah, exactly. A simpler time and such. The Anita one is the only one that looks remotely like the real person. Yeah, really? The one on the left is like a not passing auto-gynophilia. And the one on the right is, you know, significantly more woman-of-size-oriented. Yeah, it looks like she should be working at the DMV. Typical.

Typical. Woman of size. I love that. Also. It's like one of those new like New York Post, euphemism terms. It's like there could be, you know,

scholars near here or something, yeah. Also, thin Anita Sarkeesian when she was in her 20s would. Yeah. Probably. Oh, my. Oh.

Oh, God. She even has the rainbow colored. It's like, come on. It's like, just can you not. It's like, it's like, woman, can you just have an opinion instead of your opinion having you? I mean, come on. Unbelievable. Absolutely no one millennial women.

Yeah, no way. You saw only another emergence of a similar character with this. Do you guys remember this was making the rounds? I don't know if you guys. watched the original g4 but they tried to um like uh like bring g4 back and then of course it crashed and burn immediately when that frost uh character went on another one of these like you know 2014 unrealistic representations and oh you can't call women mean names and call duty chat rooms that's horrible we need to make gaming more inclusive and such and of course g4 which just spent something ridiculous

like 150 million dollars or something and a brand new studio or something i might be getting some of these numbers wrong but of course it crashed and burn uh once again because you know nobody was watching it but oh well i guess that's the uh conclusion of the gamer gate arc uh for this evening we're going to hop on to uh don't trump now and such um uh dave do you want to like a couple more minutes i'll stick around for a couple more minutes but i'll be hard out at the quarter past quarter two all right cool cool all right um so the next story we're going to talk about um let's talk about Donald Trump and Elon's Twitter space from earlier this week. Of course, this was Monday evening. I don't know how many of you guys ended up by catching it live. But as of right now, it's got something close to like 1.2 billion views across both Trump and Elon Musk's accounts. So now, I mean, this is the only problem with like Twitter, right? It's kind of tough to tell how many people actually listen through the entire thing. You know, I guess Elon's trying to make it more of like a video platform. But I don't know, like it's just not quite there yet, you know. But did you guys listen to it live or did you catch the recording?

Yeah, I was making a joke. Yeah, I was making a joke. It's like anyone who actually was able to get into the space live because there were some technical difficulties. Like you guys are going to have like, you know, medals given to you, badges that you can show around in the future. It's like a collector's item. I was there. You, true.

Sorry, you get your Mickey Mouse Award for being the, seeing the Elon Twitter space. Yeah, yeah. So Elon and the Donald had around a two-hour conversation when they talked about all manner of issues. What were some of the highlights that really stuck out to you guys? Were there any? I think the biggest thing was that like Trump is his usual self, essentially. And, you know, I was kind of surprised, actually, that neither of them,

were like getting off into like more personal topics like they they pretty much stayed on political topics the entire time like you'd kind of expect like two guys with entrepreneurial background and they'd be a little more jovial and that sort of thing but i mean maybe just with the time constraints Elon kind of like didn't get onto that and didn't want to talk shop or anything but um yeah so that was the bit the first point that i noticed um the second point that i noticed was they're pretty consistent messaging from Elon and Trump. And like for somehow, like somehow they got, you know, Trump was his usual self. So he's very rambly and they kept getting onto green issues for some reason, which I don't know.

I mean, Elon's like, kill all of our beautiful birds. Yeah. Yeah, right. No. But yeah, so he's going to show the electric car and be green and all of that. but Trump was surprisingly game for that conversation. I was surprised by that. He didn't just try to change the conversation back

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I mean, you got, it's so funny. People are like, I always expect something different. I listen to the whole thing. I got exactly what I was expecting. I enjoyed the hell out of it because it's exactly what it was going to be. And people on our side I mean I knew Scott Adams was going to be like Oh this should have been a lot better

But then you see people on our side Who were just like parroting Scott Adams And I'm like What Were you like Four years old in 2000 Between 2016? I mean how old were you?

Don't you know what Donald Trump is? Don't you know what Elon Musk is? Yeah, I had a very similar reaction Pete Because I mean I don't think there was anything like two revolution coming from this thing. I mean, it was just a normal Donald Trump discussion. If you've heard him talk before, if you've heard campaign speeches, if you've been to his rallies, you know, if you watched his speech at the RNC, you know, it's the standard Trump playbook. You know, it's not like he's adopting new policies every five minutes, you know. It was interesting to hear him talk for two hours with, you know, without a break and, you know, like in like a free form conversation and such. I thought it was more interesting to hear like Elon's point of view on a couple of things. I mean, uh, one of the The points that really stuck out to me was when Musk was talking about if Trump is reelected, that Elon wants to be part of a task force to slice some regulations, which, I don't know,

kind of puts a feather in the cap of the PayPal Mafia stuff. If you ask me, what do you think, Pete? Yeah, I mean, well, and, well, the whole PayPal Mafia thing, Trump's presser today in New Jersey, he said, we have to beat China in artificial intelligence. It's just something we have to do. Wow. A little more Mark Andresen point. That's Mark Andresen.

Yeah. I mean, he's, Trump didn't come up with that on his own. I mean, he's being fed stuff. You know, when he talks about, when he talks about central bank digital currency,

and when he's talking about Bitcoin, when he's talking about having a Bitcoin reserve, you know, like making Bitcoin M1. This isn't Donald Trump. I mean, this isn't like, con ink. This is something completely different.

You know, so what I heard was, you know, in that, that was just a conversation between two people who, like, know, know, had been out the night before or something like that. And there were some good points they brought up and everything. But it's listening to his press conferences now when he's, when you hear him parroting, and I agree 100%. We allow China to beat us in AI and quantum computing. We're dead. I mean, we're dead. So, I mean, people need to get over the tech thing real quick. The fear, the tech phobia really quick.

Somebody has to step in and somebody has to make this happen. And it's going to be good old fashion. I mean, it could be a good old fashion, you know, Manhattan Project. Because something has to be done. I mean, do you really want to see a world where China is, ahead of us in AI and quantum computing? Nope. We'd be fucked.

Yeah, I mean, if you can imagine the bug man as a super intelligent AI, it's, that's nightmare fuel right there. Now, that that basically is like one step removed from Skynet if the bugman is in charge of it for sure. I mean, like people talk about this as a meme, but literally go and see this and you can if search for these videos on Twitter relatively easily. I mean, the Chinaman literally walk over their dead. in the streets.

Just a complete like hive mind mentality. Like people say it as a meme, but no, there's like millions, about millions of these videos you can go and find. It's truly barbaric. I mean, one step removed from SkyNet.

At least SkyNet has like cool fucking laser beams and robots that you can actually go out with your bros and fight and die, you know, fighting against the bug man system is just, you know, the hive world from 40K, except there's no Astardis. And there's only one place.

planet and there's nowhere else to go. Yeah, truly, uh, nightmare fuel stuff. Um, I think one of the other things that was interesting in the, uh, discussion was, uh, Trump saying he wants to abolish the Department of Education and give, uh, education back to, uh, state's rights. Um, you know, it's kind of like one of the lesser known parts of, uh, Trump's platform. You don't really hear him talk about immigration, uh, or sorry, not immigration, about education, uh, very much, you know, except for saying, oh, all these other countries are beating us and they must think we're stupid. You know,

was kind of like the limit of much of his discussion on education about how we're wasting a bunch of money. But it was interesting to hear Emma come out on that point and then him and Elon have a back and forth about that. Yeah, I mean, so for the Department of Education thing, like when I was more libertarian leaning, I would have been on board with this. But now it's like the Department of Education is second only to Hollywood and Netflix and all that in its propaganda power. And if we really want to make some changes, we're going to need to become the propagandists. So we're giving up the, Trump's position is basically giving up this awesome tool

to go back to the states with the idea that it will make education better. But less we forget, the Civil Rights Act makes good education illegal because of disparate impact. No matter how much money, no matter how good the teachers, no matter how good the curriculum, no matter how keen the states are in teaching children, you can't teach black children to be white people.

It's not going to happen. Well, you know, by getting rid of the Department of Education and hearing the people who are in Trump's ear, they hate DEI and they hate all of this. And for no other reason, then it causes them to have to hire incompetent people. You know, they want competence. if it goes back to the states, I mean, the states can nullify or when you see if, you know,

you do get some people in there who start tearing apart and start tearing down this DEI regime, you know, then you can allow states to nullify the Civil Rights Act. And you just go back to the way the way things need to be. I think Trump had a, but he's like something, it's something about 38 states would benefit. it, then some states, some states wouldn't make it. I think he actually said that. Some states wouldn't make it. And I'm like, that's good.

I mean, that is straight talk. Some states are not going to make it. And we should be fine with that. They should do better. But they should work that out on their own. That shouldn't be from the top down. I think one of the other things, too, that abolishing the Department of Education opens the doors of is the possibility of strengthening, like, pro-homschool legislation.

in various states. If you were to eliminate that, I'd have to do more research about that, but I can't imagine how that would not be beneficial to people who are looking to do homeschooling. I don't know what to. Let's call up Bradlib and see what he has to say about it. I mean, for my own personal standpoint,

obviously I'm a big fan of my raptor and feathered friend but brethren. And so whenever Donald Trump brings up the windmills about how they kill millions upon millions of birds, and there's just a graveyard of birds at the base of them. I always laugh. So, like, yes, destroy all these fucking god-awful windmills. They're ugly, and they destroy many of my feathered friends.

Anyone else have anything that they really liked from the Trump Elon? You know, I mean, one thing I will say is that the media backlash of this has been absolutely hysterical. You know, like, and of course they have to, you know, like CNN, MSNBC, everything like this. they have to go on the attack because, I mean, you just had a billion people listen to Donald Trump and Elon talk on a platform that isn't controlled by them. You know, like the one platform on the planet that's even like remotely, even close to free speech. Yes, I know. I understand there like some people still get banned and such. But I mean, like Twitter has undoubtedly been a good thing for guys like us since Elon took over.

Yeah, I've been saying this lately. The normie take is that Elon bought it to, you know, to give. free, to give people free speech and to bring the Babylon B back on. But those who know, know he bought it so that he and the people who he likes and he's partnered with can control the narrative. And there's no better display of that than him having Donald Trump on and them just talking about whatever they want. And even that day, you have some, you know, some I'll be nice. Washington Post reporter at a White House press conference saying, isn't there some way we can shut this down? Yeah, no. They know it's an enemy. They know they want to shut it up.

That's how panic they are. And he can't bring back Jared Taylor. There's a lawsuit pending that precludes Jared Taylor for coming back on. When that lawsuit is over, Jared Taylor may be able to come back on. They talk about this on the American Renaissance podcast all the time, people. Yeah, I was going to say the biggest other issue before we move on is the DDoS attack or the alleged DDoS attack that occurred for the first part of this interview. Essentially, the first part of the interview went down and I didn't get to hear it, but there was some kind of DDoS attack that destroyed prevented Elon and Trump completing the interview and they had to, you know, stop and start the interview over again. And it's just kind of like a little bit embarrassing, I guess, on Elon's part, because you have like the former president and presidential nominee and all of that stuff. And he can't get his site together. So, I mean, I'm inclined to believe that there was one because why else would you

go through the trouble of all that and stuff? But what do you guys think? Yeah, I mean, I think there was a DDoS attack as well. I, I, no reason not to believe it, especially when what Pete said was so true about how much this bothers them, because if television and Netflix is the greatest propaganda, and, you know, education is the second, then social media is definitely the third. And it's the only one that we have any control over. And if Red Hawk, you said at the beginning of this, that it has almost a billion views between the two accounts, like they're, they don't, want this information getting out there. They like like Pete was saying earlier, they

had a monopoly over information when the the now defunct media apparatus was at its height and they don't have it anymore. And this is what allows somebody like Donald Trump and it allows us to actually get something done. It's so so why wouldn't there be some kind of state or non-state actor out there trying to dedoss this to stop it from from being put up. Right. And the other thing is the timing, because Elon got into a little bit of a spat with some sort of EU official earlier this week as well. So I thought the timing of that was a little odd. But anyway. Yeah, I mean, whether there was a attack, it seems entirely plausible and likely that there could have been. I don't really know how much of a lasting effect it's going to have

for a couple of reasons. I mean, I think number one, because it was just a conversation between two guys, I can't really imagine that, like, Donald Trump was,

like, super offended by it. He didn't seem like he came off that way in the discussion. I don't know if you guys actually saw the clips of, like, his whole team, because he was in Mara Lago during the call, and he was in,

like, his big, like, giant, you know, fortress of solitude room with, like, a giant, you know, a wooden desk and a portrait of himself and a golf t-shirt behind him.

I don't know if you guys saw the picture. It was pretty hilarious. But he's just sitting. there in his office he seemed like very chill very you know uh like nonchalant about it's like oh no i'm just hopping on a phone call with like a friend uh basically so i don't really think he's going to take too much offense to it and then also um i think most of the people are just going to hear this recording on the replay anyway so like this attack that the media is launching of oh look at this ddos attack well isn't it great because ha ha ha cnn works all the time you know we've got this

massive billion dollar network behind us and 10 billion people who are professional useless fuckers. It's like wouldn't it be nice if Elon's Twitter work? It's like I don't think anyone who's going to go out of their way to listen to this like interview, well, we wouldn't even call it an interview. This conversation is really going to give a shit about that. Like does anyone really care? Well, CNN doesn't get any traffic. How are they, if they don't get that kind of traffic, how are they going to get bogged down or anything? I mean, it's no one cares. No one care. I mean, who's watching CNN at this point? They probably get more hate watches than they do people who are actually looking for the news. The airport news network, Pete, that's, they don't even

have that anymore. They haven't had that for several years. You know, I think the other thing, too, is much of the same point about the attacks of like, oh, wouldn't it be great if like Twitter actually worked, ha ha ha, ha, ha. The same kind of attacks that they actually gave against Donald Trump in Elon during the conversation when again, it's like it's just two bros having a discussion, you know, like the media does the shit all the time. They clearly haven't learned at all. They just use the same taxes over

and over again. Like Donald Trump says, grocery prices have risen sometimes over 100%. You know, people are paying way more. It's like, ah, actually, grocery prices have only raised 57%. It's like, motherfucker, who cares? You know, like, that like this isn't, this is always like the attack vector you run into with leftists all the time.

They like miss the overarching theme and the idea of something. And they just try to discredit the entire discussion, entire argument with like the fine, like little minor points, which in the grand scheme of things. Like they, they don't actually matter at all. Well, no, it's great because it's almost like kind of a modified version of the door in face negotiation tactic where Donald Trump comes in and says, you know, the price of milk is up 100 million percent. They're like, actually, it's up only 75 percent. And everybody at home is like, I don't want to fucking pay 75% more for my milk. Yeah, it's a good point too.

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but he doesn't say anything untrue and every single time i mean this is how we you know we own twitter right like every single time one of these lefties or umbalah's uh like HQ come out and and try to to say that what he said was factually incorrect it's just i mean this community notes but there's also the the comments sections are always just gold Yeah, I guess a good way to describe it, Curtis, would be that Donald Trump may be unfactual, but he's not untruthful. Yeah, I'm down with that. Yeah. I think on that same point of, like, come on and blah blah, like campaign managers and such and other people who are, you know, going about campaigning for her.

Did you guys see there was one of these Rainbow Fox who was yelling at people in the comment section saying, oh, no, like inflation, it hasn't actually increased. No, you haven't spent more on your groceries. No, this is ridiculous. That's not true. That's really not true. It was literally one of the campaign managers who was yelling at people in the comments section. I mean, that's amazing. Like that, I mean, this gets thrown around a lot, right?

But it's pure, like, Soviet style, like just everything you think you know is a lie. Believe the absurdity that we tell you to believe. I mean, one of the things I hear left you saying a lot is that there's no such thing as inflation. It's just corporate greed because look at how much these corporations' profits have gone up. Now, without getting too deep into it, it's like, well, yeah, during inflation, the stock market increases. So paper profits from these corporations does increase, but the profit margin on a gallon of milk does not increase. You're getting 2% profit margin on a gallon of milk at $3, and then it goes up to $5, you're still only, only going to be getting 2% margin, the rest of that increase is shipping costs and, you know,

the cost of gasoline going up and all this kind of nonsense. So it's just more like if progressives didn't know untruths, they wouldn't know anything at all. Yeah, indeed. Well, speaking of grocery prices, we're going to get to Donald Trump's press conference. Pete was alluding it to it earlier, but he actually stacked the background full of assorted groceries and such. But first, let's catch up on some of these super chats. Then we'll talk about the Donald's press conference from today. So scrolling up to the top here, we've got, ah, our good friend, Hunger the Die merchant for 20 bucks. This is going to be a great show down memory lane.

We can't forget Sargon and this week and stupid when an innocent time it was. Well, yeah, yeah, most certainly a better time, a simpler time, the before time. But I mean, Curtis, you said this and it's 100% true. Yeah, look at this week and stupid. Oh, man. Oh, wow. Wow. I was there.

I got an elf. Yeah. But, I mean, we told the story many times before. And if anyone has come to the OGC conferences, you'll no doubt I've heard this story from somebody else there, right? Because, like, everyone always goes through like their Batman origin story, right, of how they came into these circles. And I'd say it's a good 80% of people that you talk to these events. got to this line of thinking and Sargon was like the person on their pipeline. He really was. I mean, I certainly got into like more dissonant like politics and stuff from watching Sargon

and the other people that he was talking to. So we definitely do owe quite a lot. That top Trump stream, man. Everybody got in on that. Oh, yeah. For Brexit. Like I was binge watching Sargon and then all of a sudden he had guest appearance on AA's channel. Yeah. My exact pipeline as well, Mandrill. Yeah, if people haven't seen those. They're pretty epic and they still like stand up to the test of time, even like eight years later. So if people haven't seen the dictator top Trump's streams that academic agent and Sargon did together, they're definitely worth your time and they're pretty hilarious. Truly like immortal streams, really timeless ones. So all right, thank you hunger.

Seasider, one of our strongest soldiers for 10 bucks. No salute in this one. Uh-oh. Will Dave stream Brianna Wu's game Revolution 60 in honor of Gamergate? Well, they'll have to ask him Dave on his own time because as you guys know Dave is currently moving across the country. He's quite a busy man. But we appreciate him for giving a little bit of time to us. And when we realize like, oh, it's the 10 year anniversary of Gamergate, who do we know? It's like, oh, well, we got to have Dave on. Right.

So I'm glad that he was able to give us some time. Okay. Wait, wait a second. Revolution 60. What the hell is this? Have you guys heard of this? I haven't heard of it, no. All right.

Well, I'm pulling it up on Steam. It looks like it came out in 2016. It only has 53 reviews and they're mostly negative. So I mean, Seasider, we love you, man. Like, we really appreciate your continued patronage. But why would you suggest that Dave hurt himself like that? That's just wrong. You know, the only way that Dave would play that game is if the corn cob man was a character in it and he can interact with.

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League up in New England. We do have more introductions of chapters to make. The Michigan chapter is up and running now of the OGC. So if you guys go over to the old glory club.com, you can see a list of all of our current chapters that are up to date. More and more are coming throughout the rest of the year. So find one in your area. And I mean, I suppose this is a good time as I need a shill as well, that Mr.

Mandrill here is also looking for people in Texas. So if you guys want to reach out, send us an email, the old glory club at gmail.com. Mr. Mandel is looking to start up a Texas chapter. Isn't that right, Mandrel? Indeed, yes. Unfortunately, with the size of Texas, we are probably going to have to do multiple chapters. Unfortunately, the way that that tends to shake out is that people generally concentrate where the work is, and that's still generally in urban areas or suburban areas surrounding major metropolitan areas.

So it just turns out that, oh, you're going to probably have one in DFW and then one in Houston and then maybe in Austin, et cetera, and all of the other places in Texas. But that's a very, very long-term plan. Right now we're just looking up as spinning up the first one. Yeah, right on. So again, if you guys are looking to get involved with another OGC chapter that maybe is already formed, check out the website or if you don't see one in your local area on the website, send us an email and we can get you in contact with a maybe there been some other ANA instead of sent us emails. We got a large spreadsheet that we've got in the back room at OGC headquarters so we can put you in contact with other guys. So all right, chants.

Let's talk about the Donald's press conference he had today as we were alluding to earlier. Oh yeah, perfect photo. This is the background. Looks like Trump. You guys remember that I'm a. like that urban legend about like Boris Yeltsin coming over to the U.S. and like going shopping and such or it's like Donald Trump once shopping and picked up a bunch of groceries for his prompt in the back.

Let's see what he's got there. He's got some coffee, some hot talk buns, some fruit. I think those are Oreos over there on the left. There's some Cheerios. Yeah, Campbell's Soup. So, yeah, typical American household. There's bacon. He was talking about the bacon on the Elon stream.

There's some bacon on the right over there. All right. Let's listen to some of the clips from the Donald's press conference today, which, of course, he was hammering hard on the Kamala Bamba administration. Here is the record of economic calamity that Kamala is desperate for voters to ignore. She cast a tie-breaking votes that caused record inflation. She cast the votes. She's trying to blame Biden, as you know. So it was Biden, but I'm going to do a better job. But it was her. And if she wants to do a better job, she's still got five months left, right? But she can't do a better job because she doesn't know how to.

And she's of a place in life where she wouldn't know what a better job is. Going to destroy our country. And as a result of Kamala's inflation price hikes, they've cost a typical household a total of $28,000. These are numbers coming from government. they're not coming from me. $28,000 she's cost a typical household. Kamala's inflation nightmare continues to cost

the average American family, $1,100 every single month. $1,100, again, government numbers. You're paying $148 more a month on food. It's every month, average family. Because Kamala and her ideas and Joe Biden too

I mention him but he's sort of gonzow that needs to get clipped he's sort of gonzo I just love the way he talks man he's the most meaningful president ever he really is he's perfect for the era that he's in yeah yeah he really is

I mean I also love the way he like pronunciates Kamala every time like it puts like a yeah Kamala you know he does like extra pronunciation on the last syllable. He's definitely sounding like his old self. He needs to, I think they announced today that he just hired

Cory Lewandowski. Oh, he's back. Mr. Panchoerno. Yes. He's not the other responsible for a blomp-womp. He got him in trouble. Oh, what do you? Isn't that what white supremacist did? He's just like, shut up. But yeah, Corey, Lewandowski is back working for the campaign.

So who knows what we're going to be here. Yeah, yeah. Great. Yeah, he also was in the news fairly recently because he was the guy who was shagging, Chrissy Gnome. So that was another thing he was doing recently. So, I mean, just what what Trump was saying, like, in that opening, like, this is why the Kamala campaign is doing what they're doing when they're appealing to.

to retards with their vibes-based campaign is because they they've got nothing, right? Like the average American goes to the grocery store and they know that they're paying more. They feel the pain. And there is no way that, you know, when Trump says it's Harris's fault, she's in the administration right now, like they have nothing to say to that. there's no response that the Kamala camp can bring to that that will resonate with anybody except the most diehard lunatic Democrats. It's,

well, it's just like I was saying, Curtis, the only thing they can respond with is, oh, no, inflation isn't happening. It's not real.

It's not true. You're not spending more on groceries. Oh, that's ridiculous. Look at these government numbers that we forged in the back room over here at our campaign headquarters. No, this isn't real.

Yeah. I mean, they just lie. And like the issue with, uh, with those lies is that like, when people like people can can have cognitive dissonance and people can ignore the truth of their eyes like when they see like how every tranny they see is an absolute horror show uh but it but still support like put the trans pride flag out but when they're feeling the pain when they're actually suffering because of something that's going to take precedence over ideology nine times out of ten yeah the even the the press itself is going out of after going after her campaign and asking why she isn't doing press conferences and asking questions,

answering questions. I mean, she can't. She did an interview on X today. Tim Walls interviewed her. Oh. What? No fucking way. The only VP candidate interviewed her.

Mafia investigates itself, finds itself innocent. Yeah. I mean, it's a joke. I mean, even the journales are at this point, are like, well, is she going to answer any questions? And, you know, is she ever going to go? Well, no, she's going back and forth across the

doing, speaking to tens of thousands of people. I mean, she basically crashes concerts and like things that are already set up that have, you know, thousands of people there. And then she

just shows up. I'm sure half the people are like annoyed as fuck that she's showing up and they're saying oh tens of thousands of people are showing up for her no one's showing up for her no one this is all it's all astroturf and i'm still pissed off at our guys for so many of our guys for being like i don't know trump trump's got to do something about this so yeah i mean just yeah i'm you know while there have been um certain characters not going to name any names uh here plenty people know who we're talking about that are continuing to go on like the Kamala is brat trained and whatnot but i have seen a lot of people you know kind of get back to the side of the we're so back

on the uh darma wheel this week because it's been a knockout week for trump uh as it relates to uh press conferences and the appearance with elan musk is his campaign's been doing a really really good job this week as if it wasn't doing like well previously but you know that there's been a lot of people that have been like shaping up it's like fucking relax like kamala harris is an absolute fucking joke um All right, we got one more clip here. I just wanted to say one more thing before we move on from that. Like, like, no blackpilling, right? No fucking blackpilling.

You can, when you're in a war and your enemy is on parity, you can take the time to run the numbers and you can make the strategic move and you can have doubts about whether or not what you're doing is right because you want to save troops here or there. when your back's against the wall and America's back is against the wall, if you're not fighting like victory is guaranteed, you're going to lose. So even if you think that by some miracle, someone who couldn't even get a single delegate during the Democrat convention, someone that they had to literally shoehorn in to the Democratic race by waiting too long so they couldn't hold. hold a convention, could win against Trump?

Like, what are you even doing? Why are you even paying attention? Just turn off your brain and just go forward acting like Trump is going to win and save us all. Because there's really no difference. Just, at least you'd be helping us. That's a gem, an absolute diamond.

Doug get some candy for that one. Thank you, Mr. President. All right. we have one more clip of the Donald. Let's listen to it. Look at this over here. What a nice job. I think I'm going to take some of them back to my cottage

and have a lot of fun. Like the Cheerios. I haven't seen Cheerios at a long time. I'm going to take them back with it. It's just so lovable. I love Cheerios the best. They're my favorite cereal. I mean, it says it escape to me

that that's what you like give to toddlers to snack on and he's talking about it. I mean, he is, he is an old man, you know. You know, I'll give him credit for this. This is amazing aesthetics. Like, good job. Whoever, like, put this together with us.

This was Trump's idea or his campaign people. This is like mastercraft in frame setting. Literally have all the props out in front of you just picked up from a grocery store, all the signs and everything. You know, I mean, I remember I'm a, this is like one of those points. some Pete I'm sure you could say a bunch on this one of the things that like whenever I was talking to libertarians back of the day one of the things they would always good over was like when Ronald Reagan would bring out like economic charts and such and say like oh isn't this amazing but then it's like well people don't really know about economics you don't really care about economics but I think that these just very easy you have the props there for everyone to look at very simple like you know there's three percentage points on each one of those little graphs right there it just sets the frame it gets to the point right away This is the way to do it, not have like a million, like, you know, charts of, you know, stock market prices going up and down or what have you. Yeah, I mean, this, he's putting in front of people's faces things that they see when they go to the grocery store.

And he's reminding them that when they go to the grocery store now, as compared to four years ago, things are much more expensive. I mean, this is, this is what works. This is what gets a mother because she's the one doing the shopping. She's the one probably paying the bills, right? Stroking the checks or whatever. This is good propaganda. This is the kind of propaganda from the right that works. It's not going to work on everybody, but it's going to work,

it's not going to work on your enemies, but it'll work on some people that you would hope to pick up. I think it's interesting that he's doing this in Jersey, too. Bedminster is not that far from the city, from New York City, from Manhattan. So it just goes, I think, but a lot of Jersey, even though he's going to lose Jersey, is no way he's going to win. A lot of Jersey, there are sections of Jersey that just are bright red and will go for Trump. So, yeah, I think this is a good move, and I think it's a good move to be doing this in Jersey

because I think it'll play on people's psyches that, oh, wow, he's doing this in Jersey. is there a possibility that he's going to win Jersey, that kind of thing? And yeah, this is actually a really good scene. Yeah. So top marks Donald. And just reading the bottom of the screen here, the Fox News banner, this is the second press conference Trump has had it in a week. And we've made this point before.

But like Trump is an absolute workhorseman. The man is 78 years old. He does press conferences and rallies all the time. He did this in 2016. He did this in 2020. He's doing it again. The man just cannot be stopped. He's everywhere.

And like we were just talked about with Kamala Bamba Harris earlier, it's just, again, hiding in her closet and can't do any press conference appearances. Like, just, again, nobody's home. Yeah, Trump has incredible stamina, like, even for an old guy, especially for an old guy. Yeah, indeed. Speaking of what has been going on in the Trump camp this week, people will know this because obviously they had to because Trump was on a Twitter space. So that means that his account has at least returned to Twitter for the time being.

He hasn't done his, you know, postings from 2 o'clock in the morning and his bed like he did in 2016 to 2020. But his account has been posting. And the black pillars. And the black pillars are upset about that. Yeah, of course. He should be doing that until he does that. He has no chance to win. Yeah.

And then they'll be saying like, oh, well, he didn't say like the loser tweet on his account this time. oh, he needs to do this XYZ thing or it's all going to be so over. You just can't win with these people. But anyhow, Trump's account has been releasing some campaign ads recently, and this is one of the ones that we saw earlier this weekend.

I thought this one really goes hard. Let's listen in. Nothing worth doing is ever easy. You'll have bad moments. You've got to love what you're doing. And if you don't, just do something else. Keep standing up always for your values. Keep loving your country.

And one of the most important things, never, ever quit. Never quit. Then ask yourself, what imprint will you leave in the sands of history? What will future Americans say we did in our brief time right here on earth? Did we take risks? Did we dare to defy expectations? Did we challenge accepted wisdom and take on established systems? In my short time in Washington, I've seen firsthand how the system is broken. A small group of failed voices who think they know everything and understand everyone,

want to tell everybody else how to live and what to do and how to think. Going to let other people tell you what you believe, especially when you know that it will be a walk of the truth. Each of you will do it. And that you will be true to yourself and your country and your beliefs. Remember this. Nothing worth doing ever, ever, ever. means you must be willing to face criticism from those who are bad.

Curly for the staff to do it. Let's start. Goes hard, man. Yeah, it was downright inspiring. Yeah. Uh, yeah, what a great,

great ad. Yeah, top marks all around to, uh, the Donald's team on that one. Yeah, that, when these ads started dropping the other day,

uh, that would, someone did really good work on these I think there was only one though that I saw that incorporated the shooting into it and that that that went hard yeah that was good yeah there was one with a shot of

Shino Abe and it was just beautiful that was so meme I mean someone who understands memes yeah exactly black pillars BTFO Oh, just from watching that one. Eternally. Eternally, BTFO.

Yeah, absolutely. So, well, top marks for the Donald's campaign. This has definitely been a very good week for him. And here we are with just 80-something days left until the election. So once again, I'm going to shill. And we're going to continue shilling this literally every single time for the rest of the election season. I'm putting it in the chat right now. again this is protect the vote dot com we showed this last week we just keep doing it every single

week if you guys are in a swing state stand up and fight and participate in your election integrity boards all right these people are dying for young guys and young people to get involved in these spaces and I guarantee you that you are going to be able to put in some kind of an impact and we're going to have to fight for it guys we're going to make sure that our elections are indeed safe and secure. So if you guys have some spare time on your hands, if the guys are looking to make an impact, go sign up if you guys are in one of these swing states.

What else are you going to do, guys? I mean, come on. Oh, yeah. And I'm going to roll call this. You're going to have to sit through this, boys. If you hear your state, if you live in a state named, it's on you. Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia,

the great state of Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Big Sky, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia, and Wisconsin. If you live in any of those and you are not doing something to help prevent another fortification, you are wrong. Yeah, there we go. Absolutely. So again, I put the link in the chat. You guys can go and sign up, go take a look at for it there. Get involved. Now, the clock is ticking. So, all right.

That's pretty much all we've got for tonight. So let's go and check the rest of the super chats here. And then we will stand down for the evening. Let's see. We got them. Son of Haster is back for five bucks. The new Ivy League had two prospect interviews this weekend. Oh, there you go.

Nice. And I got home to emails from five more. things are going well. Thanks, Jens. Nice. There we go. So there you go. The new Ivy League guys are growing in the New England area. So reach out to them if you guys are interested. Oh yeah. And just as a just as a like jumping on to that because I never seem to shut up. The new Ivy league, we just did a moonlit hike of a mountain at night. Yes, we did. Hand over hand. Our illustrious president, Red Hawk joined us. It was it was an epic moment of bonding, beautiful views.

Brotherhood was formed. We were exhausted. We were beaten, but we conquered the mountain and watched the sunrise. And this is stuff that you too could be doing if you joined one of our chapters. Yeah,

it was amazing. It took us around like two hours to reach the summit, but it was totally worth it, man. I would totally recommend it would definitely do it again. That was awesome. A lot,

a lot of fun. Let's go over to next monster for 10 bucks. He sends us a, salute and a catch you on the replay. He's a replay gang guy. All right. Nice. And cheers,

jents. Well, thank you very much, sir. All righty. And then we've got Balero 393 for five bucks. Folks, folks,

I've got great stamina and I have great big hands. Look at them. Big, beautiful hands. And everything else is big. If you know what I mean. Yes. Thank you very much. Fantastic.

That was a pretty good one. Yeah. Fantastic, Polaro. Thank you very much. All righty. And that is us all caught up. on the super chats and such.

So we'll go around the horn here. Pete, what episodes you got coming out this week, man? Just dropped an episode with Justin Stam on remaining neutral, and especially Christians remaining neutral, the we lose down here kind of Christians who don't want to fight for civilization. And yeah, that's it. Still doing the reading of Kudetatah by Lutwak.

Check that out. I've had a great guest to come on and talk about that. People who are deep in the in the lore of Lutbuk and Kudata. All right. Fantastic. Everyone should be listening and subscribing to Mr. P. Quinoez. He does some excellent work. Let's see.

Mr. Not Me, Not You. Do I have anything to promote, sir? Nope. Check out the summary of Gamergate tomorrow from our friend Charlemagne on the OGC substack. Subscribe. I see a lot of you. coming in on the twatter space. Make sure that this isn't a one-time thing.

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go subscribe to the OGC substack. And I was reading Charlie's piece just before we went live today. It's a really, really good one. So definitely go over and subscribe. Mr. Mandrill, what did you got going on? Are you joining Charlie's Ukraine stream this weekend? I am. Yes, that is this weekend, the 17th.

So that's Saturday. And what did we say? What time it was? It's in the afternoon. He's in. Yeah, it's in the afternoon. So check his channel on YouTube for that. He's got a whole bunch of people coming on for that stream.

It is going to be amazing. Other than that, yes, do go check out Charlemagne's article tomorrow as well. And I should have another article or two coming up for the OGC within the next couple of weeks in addition to that. And on my own substack on top of that. So do check all of those spaces. All righty. Excellent. We do have another super chat that's come in at the last moment here.

Mr. Paul Lungsford, 20 bucks. This is the most masculine versus feminine election in the history of our country. It blows my mind that it has come to this point. That's definitely very, very good point for sure to be made about that. Yeah, I mean, it's the universalizing the franchise and feminism made this inevitable. It's going to be the feels versus the reels, which seems to be a theme for the 21st century. We'll see how long it can last. Yeah, very much so.

All right. And for myself, no streams for me this weekend, but next weekend, look out for me on Rule Zero and Post Zero. So if you want to go see more of my RP stuff, that's where I can be found these days. All righty. And with that, all the way, we'll be back here next week for another episode of Pony Express Radio.