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Thank you, sir. All righty. Gentlemen, let's just jump right in to the topics for this evening.
So the big story of the week, we covered this month ago, I've been tracking this one.
This is actually one of the early executive orders in the Trump administration and one of his campaign promises they put on his agenda 47.
if people remember those videos back then,
but designating the drug cartels as terrorist organizations.
And now we finally have some of, you know,
these executive orders bearing fruit this week
because the United States actually launched a drone strike
on a drug runner, one of these like cocaine, you know,
dingy boats in the Caribbean,
and killed 11 narco terrorists, allegedly.
So what are our initial thoughts on this one, guys?
I mean, I'll just say from the start, if we are to start drone striking people,
I'd much rather be in the United States' interest to stop our population of being overflowed
with a bunch of drugs than drone striking random Middle Eastern countries are Israel.
So at the start, you know, if we're going to be dropping bombs on people,
the only country that the United States has the right to be at war with, as far as I'm concerned,
is Mexico.
So what do we think at the start of that, fellas?
I mean, I'll definitely have a lot to discuss.
on this, but my short answer is I'm perfectly A-OK with it. All indications is this is a vessel.
And again, it looks like a large outward motor vehicle. It's not a deep sea ocean-going vessel,
even though it's going deep sea by itself, which is already a good example of probable cause.
We know where it came from. We know approximately where it's going. Based on that intel alone,
I'm perfectly fine with shooting and killing them. My biggest issue with this whole,
thing is really the fact that the basic, or the U.S. media didn't even ask basic questions about that,
such as what units were engaged with us. How do you know who was on this ship? What did you do
for positive identification? Was this actually a drone or was this some other kind of aircraft or
whatnot? And, you know, the basic kind of, you know, who, what, when, where, why, a basic reporting
that you would teach in an elementary school English class, the American media couldn't be
bothered to ask.
Yeah, I guess if I was a reporter asking questions and I was a real reporter, I'd also be asking
things like, okay, so is this, is this going to be ongoing?
What are your plans, if any, to take on, you know, these narco-terrorists on land?
Do you expect to win this war?
because to me, you know, you like to see it.
You like to see the government doing something, but is this just optics?
Is this something that's going to be, you know, done a couple times and then abandoned?
I think that we've, it's been shown that because of the bureaucracy that exists,
a war on drugs or a war on anything isn't one. So is this multi-generational? Is this the beginning of
something that's going to be, you know, like G-WAT, where it's just going to pop back up again?
It'll be forgotten when administration will ignore it. Really, what is this? Because the way I look at it is
they're so
dug in like a tick
in Mexico
the only way
that you could destroy them is you would
have to flatten Mexico
and like have nothing left
I just don't
see it
I mean
you legalize one thing in the United States
they move on to something else
you legalize they're
it's not the drugs
it's not the
guns it's not the guns
It's not even the human trafficking.
It's the fact that they exist.
So what do we do about that?
Yeah, I mean, it definitely opens up to a multifaceted problem across the board, right?
I mean, I guess what we're looking for here, and some people are pointing this out in the chat, is, you know, what is the actual wing condition of this, right?
So if we just want to blow up a couple dinghies with, you know, a dozen guys,
they're carrying, you know, a couple hundred pounds of Coke, you know, and we want to do that every
once in a month saying, oh, look, the administration is doing something to combat the, you know,
war on drugs here in the United States. Well, I mean, this is only just a minuscule part of this, right?
I mean, we have trafficking in fentanyl from places like China. We've got our own national
park system that have all these illegal grow operations inside, like federal land in the United States.
We've got issues with Tucker Carlson, has pointed this out, this excellent documentary,
his report of what's going on in Maine with things like the actual legal marijuana industry
is involved with organized crime that way.
And I mean, short of basically just doing regime change in every single country south of the
United States and replacing them with Buckelis, I mean, you know, what really can you do?
And I don't know, maybe that's worth having a discussion about, you know, partnering with
something like Al Salvador and see what you can do with stuff like this.
But, you know, it does just point to a multi-year.
project and not something that, oh, let's drop a couple bombs and, you know, go home and say we won
the war, folks. The simple fact that this was even discussed about by the president and at,
you know, official press conferences of the U.S. government tells us more than anything that the U.S.
government wants the world to know this happens and that that message is probably the most important
thing, our most important part and part of what happened. If the goal was just to eliminate a ship,
You could just kill it and nobody's going to go bothering to ask, you know, what that Navy flotilla is doing down there just as the media has not asked any pertinent questions so far.
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From a power political perspective,
I am personally not against the United States
doing its usual bag of tricks of regime change,
particularly in Venezuela,
but throughout all of Latin America, particularly because maintenance of the Monroe Doctrine
and the elimination of any of any geopolitical resistance in Southcom is how the United States
is how the United States bases its geopolitical dominance, right?
But if blowing up the ship is a sort of message to the narco interests that have started
making deals with foreign powers like China or maybe even oblique reels,
deals with Russia or something like that. I think this is part of American reassertion over its own,
you know, should be its own sphere of influence, its own backyard through the Monroe Doctrine.
So, I mean, if, yes, as it said in Sicario, this is a demand issue. This is the issue of people
in the United States wanting to purchase this. But like the thing is, you can't blame the consumer
market for purchasing things. Really, I think this is a issue of distributors. This is an issue of,
of, you know, the networks that exist within the United States, largely foreigners, some
homegrown, that distribute these goods within the United States and the fact that they are not
all just simply arrested. I don't care about your, you know, if it was just one little baggy
of weed, right? If you wanted to really purge this from your society, cleanse this from your
society, it would just be total crackdown, martial law, arrest anything that, you know, burn
at all, all this other stuff. But, you know, as Pete said earlier, you just legalize one.
one thing, you legalize another thing. And until that point, you know, any, the pretext of any
war on drugs just kind of seems silly and stupid. So why don't we just be open and honest about this,
that this is just America power politicking in Latin America? You know, I have no problem with
that. Well, I mean, there's a lot to unpacking what you just said there, Paul. I mean,
I think, I think one place to start with this discussion is just addressing the simple thing right now
that, oh, well, this stupid tagline, like libertarians have all the time. It's like,
you can't legislate morality.
I'm like, this has just been proven to be 100% false at this point in complete bullshit.
All right.
Giving people the free market or freedom of choice with things like drugs and legalizing, you know, marijuana, among many others.
It's just been a disaster all across the board wherever it's been tried.
It certainly is one of the hugest stains that's on my voting record, I will say, because I remember, you know, many, many years ago I voted for legalization back in my state.
and this is definitely one of the things that I regret significantly on this one.
But with things that have, you know, like the legislation of like the pornography debate,
you know, saying like, oh, you need to verify your age and you see like the rates of all these sites that just drop down by like hundreds of percentage points in some areas.
You absolutely can just have the force of the state come down and say, oh, no, we're just going to make the stuff illegal, period.
Like that can be done.
So we put that aside, you know, right at the start of this saying, well, if we really did want to go full war on this war on drugs thing, it is possible for you to do.
Now the next question comes, is this the main focus?
Or is, should the main focus actually be what you're suggesting here, Paul, it's just power politics in the region, which I'm also okay with.
You know, as far as I'm concerned, this entire hemisphere belongs to the United States.
and we should be exerting our energy to make sure it moves in the way of our interests.
This ties into other stories like...
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I was going to say, I think you make it great...
Is this, you know, a new kind of, you know, we're taking over the hemisphere?
Is that what's...
We're going to...
We'll eventually talk about Venezuela.
Yeah, is this the kind of new global order that people have been talking about where Russia gets their peace?
China gets their piece and, you know, and we get our peace and, you know, we just, we basically manage
those and trade with the others or, I mean, if that's the way we're going, I mean, it's,
it at least makes the world a lot smaller than it is right now.
Because, you know, it's like Thomas O, it says, you know, there's no third world right now.
There's no, it's basically globalism and the resistance against.
it. So anything that would make the world a little bit smaller would be, you know, at least a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah. I certainly agree on that front. You know, I mean, this ties into many, many other stories. And I can't help them think that they cannot be connected in such a way. I mean, we've covered the story a couple times on the show before, but it made another big research this week. You know, we were talking about this with Argentina last time.
but not with Peru, where these giant Chinese shipping fleets
that are collecting every living organism in the entire ocean
and just poaching all of the food outside of the waters of.
It was Peru this week.
It was Argentina a few weeks before that.
I mean, again, that's right in America's backyard here.
I mean, the distance from the United States to Peru
is shorter than the distance from the United States to, like, Great Britain
or something, for example.
You know, like this is like literally, you know, just a couple hundred miles, thousand miles south of the United States.
You know, it's just right here.
This just simply cannot be allowed if we are to be exerting our influence in our hemisphere.
I'd say fishing, our fisheries are probably going to become much more important strategically as a century goes on just because it's one of the last large, untapped sources of animal protein.
Yeah, I, that's an interesting.
point, but I wanted to speak to something that Pete was talking about earlier, particularly
with the sort of the new multipolarity idea. And this raises a very interesting question that
I think we should all, I've certainly been thinking about it recently, is it's like, you know,
what, how should I say, the United States is currently at present a global hegemon. That's what it
is at present, right? Whomever is in charge of the United States and whomever is,
in charge of whomever is in charge of the United States aside, the United States is a global
hegemon. And so the question then becomes, right? The question then becomes, because moments
of single, of unipolar global hegemony do not come around very often. And historically, they
don't go away very quickly, right? So the question then becomes that I think Pete raised, and I think
we should start asking ourselves is, is, is, is, you know, that this, you know, Venezuela thing kind of
points at is what does American hegemony look like? What should it look like? Should it continue?
And, you know, or should it be dismantled from within or something like that? These are the
questions, you know, particularly from the foreign policy angle that we need to start asking.
Yeah. And hegemony in the Western Hemisphere versus the world as a whole are not the same thing.
And even as somebody who wants to see a curtailment of American hegemony, we still have every right or we have every responsibility to act as a hegemon in this hemisphere.
Which also, like, let's not forget, I mean, this hemisphere has been horribly neglected over the past several decades at least.
I mean, it's just been literally handed over to the drug drug cartels until somebody like Buckele came around.
I mean, when was the last time you really had American foreign policy?
dictated in the region aside from like the contras you know yeah yeah well i mean and that's like a
different kind of action but you know i mean so what we had like a couple uh military sanctions over
venezuela back when like obama was in office but other than that i mean it's kind of just been
left there like by itself you know like the united states shouldn't be propping up characters
like bolsonaro and brazil like bukele just trying to recreate this stuff all throughout the region
that seems way more in my interest than doing any of this world-building nonsense for Israel
that we've been doing in the Middle East for the last several decades.
Exactly.
So, I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on here.
And I think another part of this, which you were alluding to, Mr. Fahrenheit, is, you know,
the actual problem with the drugs as well, which is a huge issue in the United States.
The number of drug deaths just goes up year over year, the amount of people who have been on SSRIs or other kinds.
of medications, not just like hardcore drug reviews. It's just skyrocketing up because we just have
such a sick population here at home. So there not only needs to be a revival of, you know,
the American people to address the issues of why people are seeking out, you know, deaths of despair
with like drugs and alcohol and just numbing themselves. But there also needs to be a actual dedication
to curtailing the supply of these things as well as fixing our own problems that we have at home.
And then also just bringing stability into the entire region, not just for, you know, the crime and the human trafficking issues, but also just the natural resources as well.
They're just right here in America's backyard.
I mean, people make a, well, why don't we just get into the Venezuela stuff right now?
I mean, obviously, it's no secret here.
Venezuela has a lot of, is a rich country in oil.
We were making reference to the great fisheries that we have on the Pacific side of, you know, South America and the United States and Canada.
these are all things that we need to be looking towards preserving because it looks like
there's plenty of other countries on the world that have their eyes set on it. I actually have
a clip of Marco Rubio here who's talked about the strike. So let's listen into what Mr. Rubio said.
The United States has long for many, many years established intelligence that allow us to
interdict and stop drugboats. And we did that. And it doesn't work. Interdiction doesn't work
because these drug cartels, what they do is they know they're going to lose 2% of their cargo.
They bake it into their economics.
What will stop them is when you blow them up, when you get rid of them.
So they were designated as what they are.
They are narco-terrorist organizations.
So the same information and the same intelligence mechanisms with maybe a higher focus was used
to determine that a drug boat was headed towards eventually the United States.
And instead of interdicting it on the president's orders, he blew it up.
And it'll happen again.
Maybe it's happening right now.
I don't know.
But the point is,
the President of the United States
is going to wage war
on narco-terrorist organizations.
This one was operating in international waters,
headed towards the United States
to flood our country with poison,
and under President Trump,
those days are over.
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Look, under a managerial regime, I mean, listen to what he just said.
Okay.
He said they bake in 2%.
Okay, aren't they readjusting their economics now to losing a boat?
I mean, he basically is like, oh, you know, well,
the stop, stopping them in water didn't help, you know,
now we just have to kill them.
Well, is, are we describing GWAT?
Look, I'm not saying, I'm not saying you don't declare war,
you know, you don't make this a priority.
But if you don't have a plan to actually win this,
well, then you're just jerking off.
Yeah.
I was going to say, the idea is if you actually kill the crew.
I mean, it's sort of like the concept or the use of a sniper on the battlefield.
Snipers can be useful, but for the most part, they inflict negligible casualties.
But if you make it so dangerous for somebody to run around acting a leadership position
or to be exposed in a particular area, you can pin down entire battalions of troops with one or two snipers.
So, again, I don't know, but I'm asserting that's probably his idea that if they can kill them,
You know, that's definitely going to make it much harder to get people on those boats, you know, because dying is rather permanent.
But as you said, from an economic standpoint, does that work?
It depends, you know, how long do you, until you actually automate boats?
I mean, we have, you know, everybody's using drones to include the cartels, you know, an unmanned ship is our boat.
It's not terribly hard to conceive of.
So, yeah, what you said is it works until they figure out how to, you know, ship things without, you know,
human beings at the wheel.
Sorry, go ahead, Mr. President.
Well, I mean, I guess the other point I have with this, too, is to what degree do we even
have really information on all these organizations and, you know, what the manpower is like,
you know, where is command of control?
I mean, allegedly, we've heard many times that a bunch of the heads of these cartels,
oh, well, they're just living on their giant compounds in the middle of the desert.
We literally have satellite images of them.
So it's like, okay, so why are you blowing up like the ships when like you could just like, I don't know, drop a predator missile on, you know, sit at lower cartel HQ and just take out a bunch of people?
You know, I mean, it's like, I don't know.
This is, there's questions here.
Yeah, well, the very short answer is we don't know, partly because organizations, if you're not an established, you know, corporate or, you know, collective organization that's formally established with a public facing leadership, in general, you're not an actual organization.
most criminal operations or networks as opposed to, you know, established organizations.
So there's a lot of conflict within the organizations.
They're not actually operating in a managerial command of control fashion.
They have some hierarchy of leaders, almost like you would have in funeral,
feudalism who can act titularly as a senior most people for directing things.
But they don't generally do a whole lot of controlling or directing of resources on a day-to-day basis.
it's, as you said, it's a lot of the problems is we tend to, tend to take the managerial
approach, which, you know, applies to armies and apply it to criminal organizations. And very often
it's like, no, they don't really function that way. It's networks of people who may or may not
even identify with that association. And we're, you know, we're trying to put a formal label
on something that's inherently informal. No, precisely. And I mean, the thing of this
is too, is number one, I always find it funny that Marco Rubio looks like Manuel Noriega.
It's like we put, anyway.
It kind of does look like him, doesn't he?
Yeah, he does.
You know, the frigging Latin America or central, specifically central American strongman
physiognomy.
Anyway, but the point of this is that this is not a technology problem.
This is a policy and a vision problem, right?
That's what this is.
it's not that the United States doesn't have a capacity to interact with and understand networks that are not managerial, right?
We have plenty of intelligence, plenty of law enforcement agencies, plenty of people that understand how to think this way, that can step outside of a managerial way of thinking, right?
You have more faith in them than I do.
Yeah, fair enough, right?
But the point of this is, it's like it's not that we don't have people like this in places or we don't have.
sub-departments or sub- offices or things like that. What this is ultimately is this is a failure
of vision and this is a failure of policy. What like the Pete keeps bringing up G-WAT. What was the
whole point of G-WAT? No one knows. No one can tell you what G-WAT was. You know, I've heard
someone try to explain is that G-Wat was a gambit to try to make the United, to try to remake the
Middle East so that the United States wouldn't have to involve itself anymore. If that was the case,
it failed utterly, right? But that wasn't communicated. This is the, this is the, this is the
problem, right? There is a disconnect between the top levels of these Westphalian nation states,
between the senior political leadership and the actual goals of the policy and the people that
elected them that they are theoretically responsible to, right? So again, I'm not against my
betters making policy decisions that don't
involve me because I'm not in the room. I'm not against that. But ultimately, this is,
this is the whole, this is the schizophrenia that is induced by this system, right, is that you
have a senior executive office that, you know, and this is partially incentivized by the use of
WMD's forcing mass lying on the part of governments, right, to, you know, out of this attempt to
keep the world from blowing up, but it's not exactly the Cold War anymore. So the same geopolitical
pressures are not present, but the habits are still kind of there. And they're starting to break a little
bit. The Trump administration, at the very least, resembles somewhat of a break from these 20th century
president, or at least these latter half of the 20th century presidencies. But ultimately, for this
particular issue, for Venezuela and for this drug boat, it is a failure of vision and a failure
of policy. What is the end goal? What are you trying to achieve? Are you trying to make the flow of
drugs into the United States zero? Are you trying to manage the flow of drugs? Are you trying to
reduce the flow of drugs? Because all three of those have three different courses of action to
accomplish, right? Are you trying to regime change all of the people you don't like in Central
America? Are you trying to eliminate the cartels, you know, full stop? What are, you know, like,
and what cost are you willing to pay to do that? How many resources do you have available? Are you going
to communicate that as you're doing it? Or is it going to be this like, you know, you know,
thing you keep behind closed doors? Or ultimately, is this like a system that, you know,
But, you know, again, I've said before maybe there are models that they have that I don't have access to that we don't have access to.
Maybe they're dealing with information that we don't have, right?
Always, I think it's good to give leadership.
It doesn't matter who they are, the benefit of that doubt, right?
But ultimately, what is the point here?
Is this just we want to keep the system as running and maybe blow up a few boats to make it make ourselves look good to our base?
Like, I don't understand what this is.
This is not a technology issue.
This is a failure of vision, a failure of podcast.
policy and a failure of accurately communicating with that to garner legitimacy for it.
And that's what I think, you know, Mr. Rubio here is demonstrated.
Yeah.
And to that point, the, like I said earlier, you know, this kind of act of violence,
the fact that they're actually showing it publicly is intentional,
which means the demonstration of force is on purpose.
The problem with doing that is if it comes across as you don't have a coherent strategy,
a coherent, you know, criteria that you're using to make decisions, then you look, you know,
like the blind idiot who's flailing about, which is, you know, in some ways worse than anything
as a hegemonic power, how you could be presented.
You know, we have to remember, I had started saying this before.
You got sidetrack.
You know, we live under a managerial regime that's existed for about 100 years.
You know, we talk about dismantling it and we see exactly, you don't even know where to start.
believe it or not, that's exactly what the cartels are.
Their managerial regimes that have existed for a very long time,
if they wanted to try to dismantle it,
if somebody inside their system wanted to try to dismantle it,
or if a bunch of people decided, where would they start?
Yet our managerial regime, which we don't know how it runs,
who runs it, what's going on,
is going to dismantle their managerial regime,
we're just going to end up, we're going to feel good killing some, you know, killing,
killing some people who are bringing some stuff over the border and nothing's going to get solved.
Unless there is this grand, unless somebody, unless some genius has this grand planned where that they're
not telling us about, and I'm sure they're not telling us about it.
But if you're going to tell me some genius has a grand plan to do this, I don't believe you.
Yeah.
On that note, I mean, Van Kreveld talked about this about 30 years ago.
and he essentially said that major nation states would continue stumbling about for a long period until they actually adapted.
And that's exactly what seems to be happening here.
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Yeah, and it's funny you talk about that. I was talking to someone earlier today about the 21st century crisis of the Westphalian nation state. And, you know, one of this friend of mine solutions, he thinks that the problem with nation states is a problem of scale, right?
It's given, given 21st century political economies and cyber as sort of a new layer of reality,
the same way that air is a new layer, was a new layer of reality and warfare.
Now the cyber realm is a new layer of reality and warfare that you need to have a presence in.
You need to be able to fight.
There's an issue of attempting to maintain nation states at their current scale, or if not at their current scale,
perhaps at their current geographical boundaries, right?
And he points to things like Singapore, other city-state solutions as a drastic scale down within these sort of hulking zombie entities as a way forward.
But I don't, you know, again, like I don't know necessarily if that's advisable for a polity like the United States.
Because hegemony, the only thing worse than being the hegemon is giving up hegemony, right?
because it tends not to go very well for you.
So I don't know what the answer is here.
Not to mention the issue is how much does this really apply to us?
We talked about the scale of nation states.
I mean, we're definitely a little bit bigger than Denmark or France.
I mean, the reality is the United States was founded as a federation,
a confederacy of independent states,
and somehow turned into an empire.
And the nation state process or part along the way we attempted to do
or we did it somewhat before.
being pulled in different directions. So it's almost like the whole issue of scale. It's like
there's scale for countries. And then the United States and Russia are just completely different.
Even China doesn't have these issues because something like 90% plus of the population are ethnic
Khan. But, you know, U.S. and Russia have this issue that really both are multicultural,
cultural, multiracial, you know, multi-confessional empires that in a world that you're not
allowed to call yourself an empire anymore. Yeah. All excellent points all around, gentlemen.
So, well, at the very least, well, I think we're all pretty much in agreement that at the very start of this, none of us are against the United States blown up a cartel boat.
The thing that we're all concerned about, though, is what is the overall strategy of this and where are we going to go from here for this one?
And I don't know, maybe they don't have a grand plan.
Maybe they do have a grand plan.
Maybe their grand plan is going to fail.
maybe they are testing certain things to get data points on potentially developing a grant plan
whatever it is i will say this at the start though uh i like this better than the status quo of
oh you know we're just going to let latin america do its own thing you just be entirely ruled by
various drug cartels and you know that's literally it um you know one of the things we do have to praise
trump for uh it's just completely shutting down the southern border and crossings are basically at zero
So, I mean, that's definitely a start.
But hopefully over the next couple of years and the next couple months,
we will see a focusing on the whole Latin America, South America,
as opposed to the Middle East, which I think if you were just to pull every American,
you know, the majority of people would be totally down for that.
It's like, yeah, get us out of that part of the world.
Fuck that place.
Let's go over here and actually work out something in our backyard.
Wouldn't that be nice?
And again, just a repeat moment.
And I said, I mean, blowing up speedboats is cool and I'm okay with that, but it's not confused doing cool shit with doing effective things.
Yeah, it's very, very well said.
Yeah.
All right.
So, turning our attention into other international news this week.
We got kind of a heavy international show this week.
We must continue to look at what is going on in the UK and in the rest of the Anglosphere right now.
So the Raise the Colors campaign has been moving.
at breakneck speed throughout the United Kingdom right now.
People aren't familiar with this in response to the continued pressure brought upon them
by their own state governments who hate them.
The English, the Scots, the Welsh, the Northern Irish, everyone,
are just putting up local flags everywhere they possibly can.
And in some places this is leading to clashes with migrants in, you know, hotel, housing
or wherever, right?
And it's gotten even to the point now where many, many Englishmen have just been thrown in jail for protesting.
And at the same time, migrants who are basically getting away with some kind of sexual assault and or rape of young English girls every single day at this point.
The state is just letting those people go free.
And the two-tiered system of justice is being shown on display in the United Kingdom is just getting out of control right now.
And people are out in the streets, as it were.
So it's really hard for the average American who's just casually coming into us just to see how absurd it is because again that red flag is the flag of England proper as opposed to the UK as the whole and people are you know being called hate criminals for putting it up which is the flag of that constituent country within the United Kingdom. But people are also being called you know criminals for putting up the Union Jack which is the flag of United Kingdom as a whole.
I mean, literally, they're putting up the flag of their own country is considered a borderline crime, which is the ultimate example of the absurdity of a state that's at war with its population that says its own symbols are criminal.
Yeah, the, I don't know if I said this last week.
If we talked about this last week, I don't remember.
I don't remember yesterday.
But the, something that I'll invoke Thomas again, he said, you know,
we have ways of dealing with things with a lot of what we're dealing with it that Europe doesn't
Europe being smaller, Europe being having a lot of those countries being having a purely
homogenous majority for now, majority for now.
Or until five minutes ago.
Yeah.
But really, when it comes down to it, the way these countries are acting, especially
the way the British government is acting towards the English and the Scottish.
There's really only one way this ends.
And I mean, and it's a very famous speech by Enoch Powell, the title of a very famous speech by Enoch Powell.
And one side is going to have to decide that they want to win that.
Because that's the way this is going.
That's the only way that this is going to be handled.
And I'm not even talking about England.
I'm talking about pretty much every country in Europe that has been overrun with these, you know, with these bio weapons.
Just like when we discussed on your, we read on your show that time, the essay by Martin Van Kreveld, he makes it fundamentally clear that migration is an act of war.
It is about the displacement of the native population with a new population.
And throughout all of human history, he was understood as an act.
of war. And it's just now, you know, post-91 that the world tries to pretend that is not the
case. Well, you know, the same security concerns that the United States is looking at and
dealing with in the 21st century, you're also having in Europe, right? In Europe, the various European
countries and the European people of these various countries have entirely different security
concerns from the United States. And I see this sort of nationalist backlash within continental Europe,
within Britain and the rest of these countries. I see this as in some ways a sort of immune response.
You know, it turns out that you can only, you know, cow a people for so long and humiliate them
so much before you start seeing some kind of backlash for this. I see this as an immune response.
And it's certainly an upswell of popular sentiment. And I've even,
heard possibly that the Tory party in the UK is looking at entirely, the Tory party has done this
like seven or eight or nine times throughout its history. It's looking at entirely reinventing itself,
kicking out its current, you know, black woman head and replacing it with some, you know,
old school white guy in order to take advantage of this anti-migrant surge, which is something
that my European politics friends tell me that every single right-wing party in Europe is
going to have to deal with, right? The right wing in Europe is the vestige of Christian democracy,
which was developed after World War II. It's usually in a handshake with social democracy.
It's similar to our false dichotomy here. For them, it's Christian democracy or social democracy,
and it's functionally the same set of policies with a few minor quibbles. But all of the quote-unquote
conservative or Christian democratic parties in Europe are going to have to deal with this.
And these parties will either reinvent themselves to be more like,
European versions of kind of the Trump wave.
Like I hope, you know, honestly, much as I hate the Tory party, I would much rather my friends
in the UK live under a not nightmare state than make the people who have made their lives
horrible accountable for it.
Like, because in all honesty, oftentimes those are two mutually exclusive choices.
I would rather them have better lives.
And so if the Tory party, you know, takes this, you know, takes this cue to capture onto this
public sentiment, you'll probably see them just totally sweep the polls. And you know, Lord knows,
maybe they'll even, maybe they'll even live up to it. Maybe they'll even do something about it.
I don't know. But ultimately, this is, this is something that every European country is going to
have to deal with because I think Pete said this on one of our conversations recently is it's like
once this succeeds in one place in Europe, it's going to be like 1848. It's going to spread everywhere.
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That certainly feels right to me.
Just my gut feeling and instincts are telling me.
It's just once one of these dominoes falls, it's just, you know, there's just no way that it's not going to pick up in other places.
I mean, as soon as France does it, Germany is going to do it.
As soon as Germany does it, England's going to do it and so on and so forth.
One of the nice things of parliamentary states versus our model is you do actually get a little bit more variety in terms of parties.
The UK at least has three major political parties.
It would be nice to have, you know, one more choice.
But even then, like I said, the Christian Democrats, you know, the center-right social Democrats,
They're still facing a lot more insurgent challenges from new populist right-wing and
identitarian parties, which in some ways are reforming some of the older parties, the establishment
parties.
It's also allowing some of these new parties to come out of nowhere, merge with others, and actually
take a large chunk to the point that, I mean, reform has some representation in parliament now,
whereas, you know, UKIP, for all of its, you know, cool optics never went anywhere out
side of the MEP or the, excuse me, the European Parliament. So yeah, it's interesting to see how
things are happening. The one point I was going to say you said they have security issues like us.
Well, in some ways they have significantly worse because Europeans largely stopped breeding or they're
breeding at a much slower rate. So the native population is just not producing enough children,
you know, for anything close to replacement levels, which means they, you know, despite, you know,
despite, you know, we can discuss whether or not you should have 20 kids each or not,
but it means that the population is, you know, much more vulnerable to replacement by migration,
just as we, you know, Van Kreville discussed.
Yeah, the demographic issue is a whole other angle that we could look at this,
both in the United States and in Europe.
Because, you know, I'm wondering what the conditions are that are causing that.
I mean, you know, yes, you could, you could make a theological argument.
It's punishment from God because the people,
man and God. And that's certainly probably not false in a large amount of cases. But that's also not
where it begins and ends, right? You know, there's also, there's probably financial considerations.
There's probably cultural considerations. There's probably the fact that like in the UK, you live
under this like, you know, horrific panopticon nightmare world where, you know, you can't have a
butter knife without getting arrested by the cops. There are hundreds of people imprisoned every
year in the UK for tweets. Yeah, exactly. It's like, so maybe, maybe if you live in an environment like
that you're not exactly and you have any sort of you know political instinct whatever right um maybe
you're not exactly motivated to have kids the way you would have been if you were you know in a stable
society that seemed to care about you yeah the destruction of organic society definitely is not good
for raising families at any scale that religiosity correlates really closely to birth rates but it's
not really clear what's cause and effect there.
You know, so it's true the less religious people have less kids, but why is that?
It's not entirely clear.
Well, the birth rate thing also, you know, Yaki said that as soon as mass migration starts
into a country, the native birth rates go down.
There's a couple of reasons for that one, it's just gotten more expensive.
I mean, everything, the price of everything has gone up.
I mean, how many times have we said on this show, if you want to read,
to cost of real estate, you deport 50 million people.
You want to reduce the price of anything, you deport 50 million people.
I think there's, I think there's also a metaphysical factor there too
that I'm not going to get into now.
That would be an hour, an hour and a half, probably more.
Yeah.
I agree with you on all that point.
And I would say if you talk to anybody who's in right-wing populist politics from the UK,
especially just the loaders eaters is a good work safe version.
And they'll talk about it incessantly.
just how much the cost of housing has gone up
and how much faster the cost of housing has gone up
just for millennials in the last decade plus
to the point that you could be a young, educated, professional man
who basically financially will never be able to own a house
in the United Kingdom,
in nowhere near where he's actually going to have to live for his job.
And we're talking about some of the most educated people
in what was the most wealthy country in the world,
you know, a century ago, which is basically, you know, just a satellite of the most wealthy empire in the world right now, which is the United States. And they still can't afford a house. You know, rich people in rich countries, you can't afford a house. I mean, that tells you you have a broken economic system. And exactly, we just have reports just this week come out in the United States. But for the first time ever, there are new home buyers who are the age of 70, the new home buyers at the age of 30, which is just absurd. It's like literal clown.
going on here that the oh yeah the the eldest members of your population are the ones
buying all the houses yeah and again when people talk about all the issues that go
along with not having replacement birth rates again there's arguments there that we don't need
to rehash but one of the biggest issues is you can't have a healthy aging
population historically when you have a population that's doing well that doesn't have a
growing birth rate at that moment usually it's because of war natural disaster that killed a
a lot of people. Well, it also kills old people disproportionately, which, you know, as I'm getting
older, I'm not really a fan of that. But it, you know, younger people are the source of energy
and innovation in a society. And, you know, exactly what you said. You have more over 70 than under 30
home buyers. That is not a good sign of health for a population. I mean, the old should only ever
stick around to help out the young was a profound statement that has surely been lost on many
Western people, particularly those that spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to extend their
lives in extra six months, you know, but we don't need to go down that one. I mean, I will say
one more thing about the birth rate, which we've talked about this show as well, is that it's not
just about the economics as well, but when you flood your nation or your hometown, your area
with foreigners who don't look like you, I think that this is a part of women's deep psyche,
just from like the monkey brain from our ancestral past, where for the vast majority of human
history. If you suddenly got a huge influx of foreigners, that means that your home, your town,
your nation has just been conquered by foreign force. And it's probably not a good time for you to be
having kids. This is just a time of deep, you know, instability and not safe time for women.
And I think that that is something that is in their psyche that they've seen in their own time
as well. Migration is from a sociological perspective. Yeah, very true. And also, really,
you can solve a lot of this too,
especially when it comes to like housing
and things like that, where if you just
pass a law saying that if you
are any company,
any nonprofit,
with X amount of assets under
management or X amount assets, you cannot
buy, you know,
residential property.
And if you own
residential property right now,
you're forced to sell it at market value.
Not going to undercut you.
You have to sell it at market value.
There's,
no reason why whole town should be there's no reason why you know black black stone black rock and
black stone you know people are like oh it's black stone well yeah what you know how much of black stone
um stock black rock owns it's both yeah one hand wash and the other just make them get rid of it yeah
don't care they shouldn't own houses yeah i mean again like so many things that we're talking about it's just
I don't know if other guys can relate to this.
I'm sure many people in the chat might be able to,
especially because they spend a bunch of time with their family members over the Labor Day weekend here.
But I just grow so tired of the very basic bitch,
like Normie conservative talking points about how,
oh, well, we just really need to focus on the midterms right now.
We can't deal with any of these big, you know,
giant overarching issues of our civilization that are about to cripple us literally for forever,
the greatest thing that has ever happened in the history of the planet.
because we got to worry about the 2026 midterm elections.
And it's like, guys, like, just, just fuck off.
I'm so done with these retarded arguments of focusing on the next election.
And it's like, dude, we're talking about civilizational, you know, issues that we have to tackle right now.
They're going to take decades, if not like the rest of our, all of our lives right here.
I'm just not focused on like this next election as the end all be all of why we're involved in politics.
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Yeah, precisely. I really do think that they're, the issue, the issue with this is is just the, is just the, the zombie of mass democracy is the issue here, right?
Like, that's the only, that's the only, like, legitimate official legal way of getting power.
and it's really hard to break out of that trap once you're there.
And when you're there, it's like what disincentivizes your elites in a society,
your wealthy people, your legacy landowners, your elites?
What disincentivizes them from pumping X many millions of dollars into Black Rock so they can sit in all of those houses
as a protected asset category?
and those houses go, you know, either unfilled or they're like charged, you know,
they're leased out to some, you know, property management company and they charge exorbitant,
you know, rentals and stuff like that.
It's like, well, how do you disincentivize your elites from functionally screwing over the
middle and importing in X, infinity foreigners, right?
How do you disincentivize them from basically just selling out your nation so that they can protect their personal wealth?
This occurred in Italy during the later parts of the Roman Empire.
This is, you know, as opposed to Gaul, Gaul had a homegrown aristocracy that was kind of a holdover from the days of Julius Caesar.
There was a sort of Gallic aristocracy.
It wasn't dominated by Italians the way Italy was.
But, you know, in Italy, roads fell into disrepair.
And the thing is, is that these, these, the rich people of your society, your elites, they can insulate themselves from it.
Whether they consciously know this or unconsciously know this, they know that they can insulate themselves from the consequences.
Right.
And so how do you disincentify?
In Gaul, right, in Gaul, the disincentivization was because the Gallic nobility was actually tied to the welfare of the province.
and they also, it kind of helped that they weren't in the imperial center, right?
But, you know, and they had this plan, you know, under Edius, who was a late Roman general who beat,
I think he was the one who beat Attila Hun.
Edius had this, you know, was part of this conspiracy to move the capital of the empire and
the imperial regalia and all that to Gaul and functionally rebuild the whole Western part of the Roman Empire
around a stabilized Gaul, which existed at that time.
This was before the Franks decided to take over the show, but they were employed at this time, right?
So how do you disincentivize, you know, at least from our, from current state, from September the fourth year of our Lord, 2025 forward?
How do you create a political economic policy that a narrative or whatever that manages to disincentivize your elites, your rich,
people from selling out the country in order to protect their personal fortunes, knowing that
they can insulate themselves from the consequence. How do you do that?
It usually involves systems collapse or revolution or. Well, but that's a massive, that's a
massive policy failure. Yeah, I know. I agree. No, I think you, you stated extremely well. I agree
with you. But it's like, how do we get there when you've lost, you've de-rassinated,
the localized elites? I don't know. I don't know of any case where that's happened without that
sort of massive systems failure, systems collapse. And that's, I think, what we're all struggling
with. Well, I mean, in Gaul, the Franks were able to kind of, you know, create a, the Franks and the
Gaelic aristocracy mixed, and they were able to create a functional nation state out of that,
right? And that, you know, and that had primacy, you know, even, even until this day, right? So
there's, there's, there's ways out of this. But you're, you're absolutely right. I think the only
way out is finding wherever that there's a localized elite that's still kind of
rooted in to geography or a people or something like that and trying to find a way to hedge
them against these national or international elites.
Yeah.
And I think the potential is there.
And I think that's part of why so much of the American mainstream establishment,
you know, entertainment portrayal of just the local small town, you know, business or,
you know, government leader as some kind of hick shithead has been an intentional discrediting.
to keep those sort of power blocks from persisting.
Well, these are all excellent points we've all made on this topic.
But I think in closing, I will just say that all of us over here, you know,
as America is a descendant of Anglo-Protestans, you know, is part of our history.
I do wish all of our English friends and all those living in the UK a swift solution to all of your problems.
And we all wish the best for you.
Together three nations too.
Indeed. Indeed. Absolutely.
All right.
Well, we're not done yet with the checking up on the rest of the Anglosphere.
So in addition to what is going on, speaking of what we're talking about, the whole domino effect on these other nations,
well, Australia got into it this weekend where they had a massive protest across the entire country over the weekend about mass migration.
They had over a quarter million people show up to all.
of these various protests all across the largest cities in the country in melbourne and perth and
sydney and uh etc etc so but uh that is not the only thing um that actually came out of this
there were actually clashes between uh nationalist groups and uh antifa a lot of street brawling
that was going on i mean i must say uh you know the australians being descendants of uh you know
a prison colony um they certainly are a little bit more rough shall we say in some other people which
I got to say, I mean, in this way, I've always felt a kind of a kinship to Australians as, you know, compared to other people in the Anglosphere.
I don't know if other Americans feel much the same way, but I feel like America and Australia both have very, very similar origin stories and similar histories.
And I don't know.
I've always felt a connection to Australia, even though I've never been there.
But, you know, any other opening comments on these Australia protest jens before we show some clips?
I was going to say the first thing that needs to be understood is Australia actually has somewhat of a legacy understanding of the issue of mass migration and the effect,
partly just because their Cold War strategy was always very concerned with the fact they need to keep China out completely
because it's understood that, you know, hypothetically, if the PLA could ever get troops there, they can easily overrun them just through mass, you know, waves of personnel.
So unlike a lot of the world where you talk about mass migration being an act of war by itself,
people look at you like you're crazy.
You know, that was essentially the official, you know, strategic position of Australia for a large part in the 20th century.
Yeah, if anybody remembers the movie, which is much better than American History X, romper,
the point was Vietnamese immigrants.
I mean, they were dealing with that.
When was that movie made, early 90s?
maybe started being written in the late 80s.
They've been dealing with this issue for a long time,
and it just basically, like all the other Anglo-Sphere nations,
after they took in so many of these foreign groups,
and they got their special interests,
and they could start donating to politicians,
and politicians just decided to go all the way to the left.
Anglos just it didn't it didn't matter anymore.
So they took the size and that's what they're fighting against now in Australia.
And honestly, out of all the countries, I could see Australia being the one, the first domino,
not only because it's a very small population.
And, you know, I think that spirit is there.
they also you know if you i've been following them for a few years now and they have some good
leadership down there you know it's just that um they're going to have to deal with the fact that
they will get arrested and sent to jail and you know they don't have a you know quote
unquote um you know a legal system like ours like innocent until proven guilty they're just
assumed to be guilty down there and you have to prove your innocence and yeah they really
really don't care, you know, the leadership down there.
Just look at what they did during COVID.
What they did during COVID was maniacal.
Yeah.
Despite the fact that we all inherited, or they inherited Anglosaxon common law like
we did, the United States, again, because the first and second amendments, which as much
as we may scoff at, you know, their impotence, they've done a lot, right?
The rest of the Anglosphere, some point in the 20th century, they decided that the
old English, or the rights of Englishmen didn't include, you know, saying things that were
offensive.
And the right to self-defense was basically negated in every jurisdiction slowly over time.
So the weapons were taken away in my lifetime.
The right to say anything that offends anybody was basically taken away.
And that's despite the fact this is a very rough culture in a lot of ways.
So they're definitely chasing under, I think, what the government is doing.
All righty, so let's actually show this clip here of Thomas Sewell, who actually don't know too much about, aside from, oh, another scary far-right provocateur, you know, is trying to bring out about the end of the Australian government or what have you.
But all I see right here is just a patriot for his country, trying to defend his homeland.
So let's watch and see.
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I'm going to go down in a blob. We're going to head down this road here, cross over the bridge,
and get the Fed Square.
From there, we're going to be there for about probably an hour
waiting for the whole public to come.
Now, obviously, there's Antifa that potentially
is going to try to ambush us on the way in.
I don't think you're going to do shit.
I think there's like 20 of them.
The goal is to get the Parliament House,
to get the speakers and podium set up,
and then we're going to run through some of the speakers today,
and I'll finish off the speeches at the end of the day.
Okay, understood.
Let's go.
Well, they certainly made it through.
So, I mean, just a friendly reminder for everyone,
just be physically fit.
We hear the OGC
as a not political organization
not doing any of these marchings of any kinds
like this or anything like that.
I do say
I was pretty foolish for these anti-fah
guys to get in the way of these guys.
So that's all I'll say on that.
Yeah, Higgins probably should not form a human wall
in front of a bunch of rugby players.
Yeah, yeah, indeed.
You should probably try not to stop
a pile driver-shaped formation by creating a static linear wall.
That's not exactly a good way to...
These anti-fah guys say, have they not played Rome total war?
Come on, guys.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, you know, call me a bit presumptuous here,
but I don't think these Antifa guys know much about, you know, street fighting.
You know, it's a disorganized group of people versus like a,
literally disciplined marching in column to the beat of drums, probably with numerical superiority.
I don't know what they, I mean, maybe if their, if their goal was to get the dude arrested,
I don't know, maybe they succeeded.
Well, they did.
I mean, he was, Thomas Sewell was arrested in response to this.
So claiming, claiming actually that he was assaulting indigenous Aborigines, but.
Well, well, that's, you know, the point I was going to mention.
is that it's sad to see anglos fighting anglos here but we have to understand that the social
engineering regime that we've undergone you know a lot a lot of our people are lost and we can't
allow that to get in our way well at the at the very least i will not be condemning uh these guys or
any uh men in the fellow anglosphere who are doing what is right to uh defend their nation and their history
and their people.
So, well, as we were talking about, though, this issue of mass immigration is just coming
to a head.
It's everywhere.
In every single Western nation at this point, it is the number one issue across the board.
It's coming to a head in the UK.
It's bubbling over in Australia.
The Germans have elections coming up fairly soon.
It's been a problem in France for the last couple elections.
I'm waiting for the Canadians to, you know, wake up and finally deal with this, too,
because they seem to be the ones that have just been affected the most.
of literally everybody in this.
But, you know, the old order is just, it's just done on this one.
You cannot have this mass immigration continue.
Yeah, was it Alberta, Canada's looking at having a secessionist vote this coming election?
Well, that'll be very, very interesting at the least.
So, did you guys see the clips this week of one of the police chiefs in Ontario who's just saying, like,
oh, well, do not fight anybody who is invading your home, you know, just always.
be sure to 100% comply and most of the time will be okay it's just most of the time yeah what an
absolute shameful display yeah you know if any of you are listening from alberta just understand
that um uh as soon as soon as your state inevitably gets annexed uh you too can create the uh
alberta chapter of the old glory club yeah yeah wouldn't that be nice i'd like to go up to alberta
go go go visit the royal terell museum of natural history go you know shoot a caribou or something
something you know that'd be cool yeah those added the US probably double the amount of uh
amount of land use for cattle raising in the US don't quote me on that yeah certainly quite a bit
of up there for sure but anyway so that is our update from the rest of the anglosphere in our
foreign policy uh segment out of the show let's go through the first round of super chats here
and then we'll get us domestic stuff best best comment so far i can't believe that's the guy
who wrote black rednecks and white liberals.
That's funny.
Very funny indeed.
Yes.
No relation to the one exception to every argument that you get in with anyone.
You know, well, Thomas sold to this.
Like, yeah.
Uh-huh.
The different character indeed.
All right.
Let's go through the first round of the super chats.
And then we will get back to discussing some of the stuff on this side of the pond.
All right.
So the first super chat of the evening does not go to Solid Snake.
Unacceptable, my friend.
You didn't get here in time.
But Herb seasoning sends us $5.56.
I think that's a very nice, you know, denomination to be sending us, I'd say.
If you don't carry 45 GAP and modified 6227, you're not a real patriot.
Nuff said, brother.
Also ripped Paul Harrell.
Yes, of course, it was the one-year anniversary of Mr. Paul Harrell's death.
you know this week so very tragic indeed I don't know any any comments
Pete on a 45 GAP 45 GAP is hilarious but yeah rest in peace Paul Harrell
I've been going down a rabbit hole of a lot of his older videos rewatching some and
man what a what a loss that was yeah it gave us a wealth of knowledge to be sure
indeed you know speaking of somebody else I'm up who lost
we lost I will take this time right now too if anyone was a member of the old
deep lore you know discord chat or as part of the any other you know many
chats are going around or many moderator groups or anything in our thing everyone
please pray for the spirit and soul of a lady of shallot who we lost this week
a wonderful woman who you know was just a constant reminder in a member of
this community for years and years and years and she will be deeply
missed. So go listen to go find go find that a
stream where she and Thomas talk about the troubles.
It's I've listened to that several times. Yeah, it was quite good.
And then she I also saw millennial woes retweeted her appearance on millennia yule from
I think it was 2003 or 22 or something. So yes indeed. So lady of shall out will be
missed greatly. So all right. Moving on the super chance here to a solid snake.
64, who got in the second super chat of the evening, for 10 bucks, evening gents, sick as a dog right now.
Maybe that's why he wasn't behind enemy lines so quickly.
But a whole lot better than the cartel guys that got blown up in the boat.
I'm glad to see something be done about the drug smuggling, even if a little, hopefully lots more to come.
Salute.
I'll thank you, Solid Snake.
We appreciate your super chats, as always, my friend.
Yeah, I don't think any of us are sad to see them go.
we just want to see them all go.
And that's going to take, that's going to take planning and not just a, you know, a shot here and a shot there.
Indeed.
Chauncey of Northwest for 25 bucks.
Thank you very much, sir.
I just wanted to say that thank you to the men of American spirits who have been doing the vital work of resurrecting the true history of our republic.
God bless the OGC.
Damn right.
American spirits is probably the most important content that we are put.
out right now, I would say. Charlemagne and Turnip Seed are doing amazing work over there,
answering the question of what is an American? And I'm learning something new every single week
about this one. I mean, I think everybody in the chat could just talk about how their own American
education was sorely lacking throughout all of their years in school. And I just find out new things
all the time, even about like the different ethnic groups and cultures that came to make up
the United States, whether that was the Scots, Irish, the English, the Puritans, the Quakers,
or what have you. There's just so much history that gets lost because in your own local area,
like myself, I'm growing up in the Midwest, I just never really paid attention too much about
the history of like the Puritans and the Quakers because that's just not my history of the
settling of the Midwest. So it's very, very interesting to hear about all these groups that came
to make up the United States. And I highly recommend everyone head on over to American Spirits on
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Romega sends us 20 bucks.
Mexico invades America.
Shouldn't we invade them?
Well, I mean, yes, I said for a long time.
You know, they definitely deserve to be the only country
the United States is at war with right now.
I'll say that much for sure.
Problem is we do that. Then we have Mexico.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, this was, this was the argument against doing it back
like the 1800s or not the late 1800s. John C. John C. Calhoun.
Oh, Calhoun. Yeah. Calhoun is like, if we do this, they're going to come here.
And they are not white. And they will destroy the, and the country will be destroyed.
Well, you know, shoot, like at the turn of the century, you know, around the McKinley administration,
back when Empire was in vogue for conversation and we were having similar conversations that
we're actually having today, right, when America held the Philippines as a actual possession,
as well as Puerto Rico and other places, right? We were fighting a legitimate guerrilla war
to maintain our possession over the Philippines as this. And everyone forgets about that.
Like, we just straight had the Philippines as an imperial possession, overseas,
overseas possession. And MacArthur was dictator, emperor of it for a little while.
But like this was the argument that people like John Weir were making, who by the way was a staunch nauticist, environmentalism and eugenics have always actually, have historically always gone hand in hand.
The people who were the hardest environmentalists were also tended to correlate very heavily with the hard nortisist eugenicism that was very popular around this time, people like Madison Grant and Lothrape's daughter.
But these were the arguments that they were making, you know, regarding the Philippines,
regarding Puerto Rico, regarding other overseas American possessions.
You know, it's just like even these tiny little possessions will open the door to, you know,
imperial conquest, and then we'll be just like Rome.
Because what happened in Rome is that after, I mean to mention Rome again, it's just a good example,
after the Punic Wars and the Roman political economy shifted from a primarily small landholding
yeoman farming-based political economy to a large landowner, very top-heavy slave-based political
economy. What this did was those slaves had to be sourced from somewhere, and it wasn't all red-haired
Gauls. As a matter of fact, a lot of it were Numidians from North Africa. A lot of them were from the Levant.
So what this caused was a legitimate browning of the Roman populace over time because these slaves, some of them were freed, they would breed.
And as always, especially when you have long-term populaces in an area, they tend to intermix.
So this is what there was a browning that did occur in Rome over time, just from the importing of these.
And it even accelerated after Caracalla implemented the Antonine constitution, which declared
everyone in the empire. Everyone in the empire is now a citizen. You know, if you're some,
you know, if you're some Nubian in Egypt, you are now equal to the Julia I family of patricians.
Stop me if this sounds familiar, right? But, but ultimately these were the arguments that
were being made at the turn of the century by, you know, people like John Weir is that if we take
over Mexico, if we take over these other, you know, and I know there's another super chat around
here about filibustering that we'll either get to or we won't until the end. But this was,
this was the primary argument against it, was that, or at least one of the primary arguments
against it, was that if you take over Mexico, then you have, as Dr. Fieldhouse said,
you have Mexico. You have to deal with that massive influx of population, and they're not all
going to stay in Mexico, because now what you've done is you've lifted the international
restriction for that whole populace to now flood into your country.
country and to go not just to like Texas, but to like Maine and other places like that.
So this is the issue.
This is the issue with any sort of territorial expansion, right?
Is that this is, you know, the, the ethnic makeup of your populace has to be taken into
consideration before you embark on something like this.
I know that was another long Paul screed.
You can lose by winning.
Let's say again.
You can lose by winning.
Yeah, it's true.
It's true.
Yeah.
Well, maybe we can rule them like a satrapy from another time.
You guys should stay over there.
I don't know.
Well, Romagna, I talk about min-maxing super chats.
I think you've won the award for your min-matsing on this one for this week.
So let's move on to Seasider, who sends us $10 in a salute, as he does every week.
Thank you very much, C-Sider.
You are much appreciated as always.
I got Adam Keeney, another frequent super chatter, for $20.
He says in Guyana's waters are some of the largest known untapped oil reserves. Venezuela claims to own two-thirds of Guyana, including offshore reserves.
75% of those reserves are owned by Exxon and Chevron.
Really? I didn't know that last part.
You know, that border conflict back before Guyana was independent.
I was actually listening about this today.
That border conflict almost caused the United States and Britain to go to war back when it was British Guyana.
and Venezuela was saying, hey, America, isn't there this whole Monroe Doctrine thing that you're supposed to be doing when Grover Cleveland was president?
And then Kaiser Wilhelm said something crazy and the whole situation was diffused.
All right.
Moving on to Dash for five bucks.
The left shrieks, they weren't given due process, but the left made it where nothing done with due process would be harsh enough to deter these thugs.
Yeah, that's a good point, too.
well
Mr. Paul W. Hall
frequent joiner on Mr. D's
Twitter spaces for
10 bucks says
Philip Bustering is the answer
let the spirit of William Walker
rise again
I think I beat that dead horse to death
there you go
you can win something you really don't want
yeah
all right
I'm a cool dude with the
avatar of Oswald Spangler
for 10 bucks says
salute the OGC, a great group of fellas,
cool dude over and out.
Just imagine like Osmond Spangler saying that.
You know, it just can't get it out of my head.
But thank you very much, sir.
I greatly appreciate that.
Kyle Lindscog for 15 bucks sends us a salute.
Love it. Thank you very much.
You know, moving on to SkiBum 220,
another frequent super chatter.
Thank you very much, guys, as always, for 25 bucks.
We're going to win,
salute the OGC.
Damn right.
Thank you for everyone
for saluting
tonight.
We're getting
quite a few of those
this evening.
And moving on
to Volp's persona
for 10 bucks.
He also sends us
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So I dig that.
Thank you very much.
Our good friend
Cringe Walker,
Luth Amplar,
message me on
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Jean-Baptiste
Verloi
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on
intending or
inventing a new
elite to fortify around and endure, but you'll have to learn some Dutch.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
I don't know.
People can take a look at that.
Cringer Wocker's recommendations are always very fruitful in my experience.
Just get a PDF of it and feed it into GROC and tell GROC to translate it into English.
I did that recently with a book in Russian.
No, really.
Yeah.
You know, on Cringe Walker's recommendations, that whole screed I did earlier about the
Golic nobility in Rome, that was taken directly from, I think, a graduate thesis that someone at Texas Tech in the 80s did that he sent me.
So his recommendations are usually very good.
Usually, I would say, Dutch stuff is usually fairly easy to find English translations of, or at least English software.
So they're pretty good.
It's French and Russian are the languages that are hard to find good translations of academic documents.
All right.
moving on to Enrico Palazzo for 10 bucks.
The OGC should declare themselves Hasidic to get some of that sweet home and security grant money.
Oh, don't worry, Enrico, we're getting to that story next.
It's funny, a lot of our guys in our audience will send these super chats in advance.
You know, Salus Snake is famous for doing this.
You know, he just sends one in advance.
It just happens to be a topic that we talk about as well.
So our guys are on top of things.
But do not worry, Enrico.
We'll be getting to that one very shortly.
So, all right.
Cryptoferral for 15 bucks says,
greetings from the Ozark Plateau Mountains, OGC in progress here.
Yes, of course.
Yeah, there is an Arkansas chapter up and running,
but the Ozark are kind of on the other side.
So, yeah, everyone check out the OGC website.
Take a look for your local chapters in your area.
And if you do not find one there, please reach out to us
and we will get you in contact with fellow friends.
And maybe you guys can set up a chapter in the local area.
New ones are popping up almost weekly at this point.
So they are grown like crazy, as always.
And thank you everyone for making it possible.
Christopher Burke sends us two bucks in a salute.
And everyone's saluting tonight.
Thank you very much, sir.
Appreciate it.
Chief Slingham Beef, another prolific super chatter,
sends us five bucks.
Englanders, racing your own flag as a hate crime,
Southerners, first time, mate.
That is a good point.
I wish them the best of luck
and the St. Andrews Cross, St. George's.
Yes, indeed.
um don browning speaking of uh pleasant women uh in our sphere and australian women at that as uh the dear
lady was living in australia in her final days but anyway john browning sends us 20 bucks and a
10 percent of white australians were convicts at the end of the transportation in 1868
oh really huh a lot of the ones who were were debtors so
felony at the time usually meant the death penalty.
So, yeah, they were criminals, but it's not quite what we think of as a criminal in 2025.
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That's fair.
All right.
Ballaro 393 sends us $10 for Lady of Shalot.
Yes.
Thank you very much.
And the dear lady will indeed be missed.
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Thank you very much.
We appreciate it.
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He says, thanks for the great answer.
Yeah, well, there you go.
You're welcome.
Yeah, thank you very much, sir.
all right um flammon adventures for 20 bucks o gc south florida is having a meetup friday evening
september 12th if you're in the area please get in touch with the yellow dog pack o gc well there you go guys
so if you are in uh south florida uh definitely try and get involved it's a it's a big state in
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get involved if you're in the uh south florida area um great state with a lot of great state with a lot of
people so um all righty uh moving on to uh someone stole my bike for five months all right uh good work gentlemen
big fan of the show uh i live in uh virginia and looking and getting in contact with my local o gc well
there you go thank you very much um yeah the uh virginia guys are a nice crowd i would say pretty sharp
There.
Yes, they are.
All right.
Jack Fitzgibbon for five bucks.
Every single one is going back.
He who tries to make you doubt that compromise or feel a tiny shred of sympathy for these
parasites is your enemy.
Salute.
Well, we're going to.
Well, you know what I hear?
You know what I hear?
I hear an anarcho-capitalist going.
One day, we're going to defeat the state and we're going to have our narco-capitalist paradise.
We're going to have an encapistan.
And anybody who doesn't believe that or counter signals it is a statist.
And then they'll tell you Switzerland is evil because they have the draft.
Yeah.
Well, while it is important to keep up morale, it is also important to have a healthy understanding of what this fight is going to look like.
So, but yes, they're all going back on this.
We all agree.
Mighty Balzac for two bucks says.
I hear you're a transphobe now, Father.
Don't get it.
Moving on.
The Catholic Church that was shut up last week.
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
But, hmm, big sad.
Herb seasoning, again, for five bucks.
Blackstone, Black Rock, more like Black Cube.
Well, yeah, I mean, just like the distinction between all these things.
It's just...
Oh, he...
The previous super chat was...
referencing a frigging british comedy show oh is that right yeah he was referencing a british
oh right um uh father ted uh uh uh uh i see very funny all right okay um good um moving on gentlemen um
back to our stories right here um and rico palazza already um made reference to it in the chat
earlier but we just we just have to talk about this one it's just it's just every single time man it
And it's really starting to, you know, just it just makes your blood boil every time.
All right.
So, of course, in response to the horrible and tragic shooting that occurred at a Catholic church last week
where two young children were killed and many others were injured.
And, of course, the shooting was perpetrated by a demonic trune.
The response from this was an emergency declaration.
Oh, actually, here we go.
I'll read from here.
So emergency grants, you know, for the protection of religious institutions.
Okay.
So we'll get to this list here in a minute.
I've got one open on another tab here.
But anyway, so New York got 48 million block grant and apparently has been handed out
$450,000 in grants to every single synagogue in the state.
So going through all of this, so from Homeland Security saying all Americans should be able to
practice of religion without fear of terrorism or violence.
Under leadership of President Trump,
Secretary Nome was awarding $110 million to more than 600 faith-based organizations
and other nonprofits, yada, yada, yada.
All right, gentlemen.
So going down the list right here,
and I'm actually going to link this account in the chat, in the live chat.
So if people want to take a look at this, they can follow along because it's just unbelievable.
So get ready.
Buckle up, everyone.
So.
Department of Public Safety in Missouri for the amount of $5,215,130, the Ward Jewish Community Center, $425,000.
Next we've got New York State Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services, sub-awardee Bathis Esther School for Girls, $450,000.
going on again to
Matsava Jerusalem
of America
$450,000
moving on again
Talmud Torah de Nitra
in New York City
$450,000
$450,000
Yashiva
Vinsk
DeKal Torah
I can't even spell
or pronounce on any of these
fucking words
$450,000
$1,000
Yashiva University
in New York
$450,000
like they need it
Yeah, yeah
yeah
So the list goes on and on and on and on and on.
You'll sense a theme here.
None of these are Catholic schools, Catholic churches, Catholic institutions,
or Christian denominations of any kind.
So in response to the shooting of a Catholic school,
which the media also tried to proclaim that the character was anti-Semitic in nature
because there was some quotes about the mustache man written on some of the magazines
that the killer had written on some of the devices,
also proceeded to drive past a synagogue on the way to shoot up a Catholic church.
But, you know, yeah, very, very anti-Semitic behavior, I'm sure.
This is just the response.
We're going to go loot the treasury right now.
Well, let's just face it.
I mean, we know.
we know that this
deospra
is parasitical
they're going to take whatever they can get
I mean everyone
everyone in
politician in this
frigging country it seems with the exception
of like two or three
seems to have taken an oath to
Israel
I mean
who's really shocked by this
yeah sure it's infuriating
but I mean
it's just
it's just more of what we already knew.
It's more of what we already knew is going to happen.
I mean, it's just this, this is just really another fucking Thursday
where Jews get all the money.
They get all the protection.
And, you know, screw Christians,
screw Americans.
Screw everybody except them.
it's a great system
but you know this is just
this is just 2,000 years of history
repeating itself
I mean 3,500 really
if you know if you believe the Old Testament
so I mean
shocking
wow
I was going to state the obvious that
since this is supposed to be grants
for improving security on these
houses of worship
before anybody on our side thinks
that their church should go out there and get the,
I would actually discourage that just because with the money
is going to come some level of control.
And if you actually need a security force,
which you probably need a security force,
the last thing you want is some kind of federal agent
snooping into what you're doing.
Yeah, it's probably a good point.
But, I mean, I'll say this as well.
I mean, just the obvious thing right here.
It's like, okay, you're getting half a million dollars
for security forces.
I mean, we all know.
there was actually just a report
there was just coming out of Congress just this week
that over $1 trillion were stolen
for the United States government during the COVID lockdowns
through whether it was faulty
you know PPE loans or money sent abroad
or what have you
I mean let's all be real here that $500,000
that all these synagogues are getting now
isn't going to go to security and they're just going to use it for
literally whatever because there's just no oversight
with this shit. Yeah well
they've got lots of accounts that are going to be very good
at defining what is
security for the purpose of taxes and receipts.
And again, just so we're clear, I absolutely support churches having security forces of their own.
But you do not want federal oversight.
You'll have plenty of the actual cops who are in your parish or congregation.
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You don't want to get in bed with the DHS for your church.
Yep.
Well, I don't think there's really much else that we can point out on this one, though.
Just, you know, one thing I will say on this one is that the only thing we're going to push back on this one, I'm going to be very careful with this.
All right.
this is not a like so many people have been complaining about you know it's just oh this is just
government you know spending money like crazy because that's what the government does and it's like
as p. kind of pointed out it's like it's like the fact that it's like the government of money is
it's it's just money laundering it's it's like and it's also it's just graft it's also just it's
it's just what they do you know that's that's that's the only thing I'm going to say about it so
the most predictable ethnicity of people on earth yeah pretty much pretty much no so uh i mean
it's important to point out stuff like this i mean it's it's good good for oil fuel rando and all these
other people for uh calling this bullshit out and bringing it to light but i mean yeah anyway so
well um speaking of another um foreign group that are uh causing problems at the state level um we were actually
just talking about this a couple of weeks ago about what was going on a deerboard stand with
wreaking local elections and stuff like this and this just came across my desk today and we're
going to talk about it so uh the city of deerborn michigan speaking of other foreign groups here
uh so deerbourne heights first in the u.s with arabic on police patch so if people aren't
familiar with this area um just outside the city of detroit deerborn was actually where um
henry ford was from basically was his town they got greenfield village there they got the original
Ford factory, everything, you know, is in Dearborn just outside of Detroit. And this place was a
hotbed for dropping all of the detritus from the, from Gwatt, basically. There's a huge group of
Armenians, Syrians, Afghans, Iraqis, you know, Middle Easterners of all kinds, you know,
ended up in this spot of the country in massive numbers. And in very, very quick period of time,
took over the entire area. It's now called Dearborn Stan by locals now. There's a Islamic
calls to prayer in the streets all the time the street signs are written in arabic city councils all
you know islamic foreigners of some uh strain or another and now they've just got you know arabic
patches on you know uh police signs now on the on the police badges so wonderful
i was looking at that and apparently because it was just like the original press
replace from the department that was published by the local fox affiliate and as far as i can tell
no other news did anything beyond reprinting that original one.
From what I can tell, this isn't actually going to be an organization wide patch.
It says it's just a voluntary patch, which I don't know what voluntary insignia on the uniform means.
But I thought it was interesting is apparently it was a not Middle Eastern officer actually felt the need to design this and have this implemented.
So again, it's a little.
That's just always how these things go.
Oh, but that kind of stuff, right?
It's just taking the natural inclination of like our people and just weaponizing it against us in this degree.
Just being like, oh, we're going to be accommodating to these guys and maybe, you know,
they'll just be part of this grand old experiment and get involved with the local community and they'll feel more at home and they'll be just like us.
It's like, no, it's just so unacceptable.
And this surely won't be the first, you know, and it surely isn't going to be voluntary for long.
Honestly, I'm surprised at a place like Minnesota, like the Minneapolis has a beat up to it, quite frankly.
But, you know, it's like this all over the Midwest.
The Midwest in particular, it has a huge, huge problem with all the Islamic immigration.
You know, I mean, like the southern border has got a lot of problems with various, you know, Mexicans and Hispanics and stuff like that,
the Chinese are taking over like the northwest and the northeast parts of the country.
But the Midwest in particular seems to be particularly targeted by Islamic immigration of one way or another.
Look, they, yeah, down in Hialeah in Miami, you have street signs in Spanish.
You have 110 foot statues to monkey gods in frigging Texas.
Is this surprising?
No one's doing anything about it.
I mean, this is basically the reaction to this is the same, you know, at least England is people in England are starting to do, starting to act.
People in Australia are starting to act.
We seem to have it a lot better here, but for how long?
Yeah, I mean, a lot of our advantages is the fact that the United States is just so big and is, you know, extremely populated that it takes a while to,
develop a colony internally.
Yeah.
That's what's gotten us out of significant internal change.
And it's, I think, you know, during the industrial revolution,
the reason why there was such upheaval in Germany and Italy and another,
and Japan and in other places was because these countries industrialized and their population,
doubled, tripled, quadrupled over the course of like one or two generations.
you know, England, they had a long period of time, not a lot of space, but they had a long period of time to kind of develop it.
And for the United States, when we industrialized, it was very slow and we had a lot of territory for excess population to go out into.
Right. So that's kind of a double-edged sword. I've done my whole Rome, you know, Browning, slave-based economy screed.
but it's like, you know, I'm wondering that sword cuts both ways, right?
The United States just being able to use its massive size and internal interior
and, you know, just diversity of geography and amount of geography to kind of sidestep radical social change.
It cuts the other way when you need rapid radical social change.
It's just not going to happen just because everyone's like, oh, that's over in Michigan.
I don't live in Michigan, et cetera, et cetera.
On that note, too, people seem to think that there's something of magic about America
where everybody just suddenly assimilates and speaks English right away.
And I remind people that, you know, large parts of the United States, not just in the
Midwest, but parts of Appalachia, you know, some of the major cities had majority or plurality
German-speaking populations until the First World War when several states made it illegal
to speak German on the telephone or in public, to the point that, you know, the German language
was largely suppressed in large parts of the U.S.
And that not just that these people were bilingual before,
but suddenly it became mandatory to speak English and public.
So again, yeah, the United States,
cultural assimilation requires you first to have a culture to assimilate to,
and it requires there to be some pressure for people to assimilate to that.
And as I say that, I suddenly realized that every Latino child I ever went to school with,
you know, suddenly could not speak Spanish any better than I could
as a white guy from Alabama.
So maybe I'm wrong on this one, but I don't think so.
Yeah, it's funny that that, that's a theory I recently heard about why the,
the Britons, why, what is it, the Anglo-Saxons didn't actually genetically replace the,
the Britons outside of like, like, really East Anglia and places like that, or the
south is it's like in, in the north and in the west of England, the Britain's, you know,
maintained, you know, in modern-day DNA test, rather kind of prove this is that most white English
people were more genetically Britain than they were than they were Anglo-Saxon.
And there's this theory.
Yeah. And the theory about that is that is basically the prestige language theory is that
over time Britain was relegated to like a lower caste and undercast language and the language
of law and the language of trade and the language of public life and all this stuff.
I don't know if it was enforced the way the way English was on the Germans in the Midwest,
but over time, everyone just started speaking Anglo-Saxon.
And then you see this happen again when the Normans conquer the English, right?
Everyone, you know, and it was a lot less successful because the Normans kind of forgot French.
But initially for a time, French became the language of prestige.
And then over time that melded with Anglo-Saxon to make modern English.
But our perfect bastard language that we speak and conquer the world with.
Yeah, exactly.
But, you know, more directly to this story, right?
I think this is a great example of what culture distortion looks like.
You know, this, I'm not going to lie to you.
This patch looks like something that, you know, would have been,
I never deployed to GWAT, but it's what I imagine,
something that would have been put on a slideshow for a pre-deployment brief
as to what you'll see in your area.
of operations. It's just so imagining looking at this that they have the great seal of the state of
Michigan in the center and then they got Arabic like right next to it. It's like these two things
should never be put together under any circumstances. This is just slap in the face.
Now that you mentioned, it kind of looks like the Iraqi Highway Patrol if anybody wants to pull that
up. Oh goodness. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
Talk about bringing the GWAT home, man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just
You know, particularly sad, especially given that this is my home state, you know, so people know I have a deep connection to it.
But, I mean, and also like the seal, I mean, the seal dates back to the Hudson Bay Company, you know, so it's a lot of history attached there.
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Of all people, Michelle Foucaulte said that, you know,
when you decide you're going to have an empire
and you're going to go out and you're going to fight,
find enemies to fight,
eventually it's going to come home.
Here it is.
All righty.
Let's move on to our final story of the evening, which I just found it so hilarious that I could not talk about this this week.
You know, I mean, we've been talking about a lot of like heavy hitting conversations and topics and stuff the last couple of weeks.
I felt like we needed something a little bit more, you know, enjoyable or a little bit hilarious.
But apparently Donald Trump has ordered, people have seen like clips and everything, like a bit of reconstruction on the White House.
grounds and making everything look a little bit better. We've seen pictures of various rooms in the
White House and they're talking about putting that big expansion on it to add it in a ballroom and stuff
to have parties and everything. So this is like just the most Donald Trump thing ever. I can totally
imagine that he did this 100%. I don't doubt this for a second. But anyway, here we go. I used at the
White House the most beautiful marble and stone available anywhere. Surfaces are very important to me as a
builder. As everyone knows, I built many great buildings and other things over the year.
at the White House. I am very proud of the beautiful stone work we did in the Rose Garden. In this case,
using limestone plus. The Rose Garden is completed and far more beautiful than anyone ever had in mind
when it was conceived of decades ago. Three days ago, while admiring the stone work, I happened to
notice a huge gash in the limestone that extended more than 25 yards long. It was deep and nasty.
I started yelling, who did this? And I want to find out now. And I didn't say this in a
nice manner, I can imagine so.
I wondered, was it vandalism
or wasn't stupidity? Lo and behold,
because of the fact that we've installed
the finest security equipment anywhere
they brought back the stupid
people with their boss
watching in sunglasses, it was
a subcontractor that was installing
heavy landscaping on the steel
cart that was broken and tilted
badly with it rubbing against
the soft, beautiful stone.
I love and respect great workers and contractors,
but something like this should never
happen. Now I'll replace the stone, charge the contractor, and never let that contractor work at the
White House again. But how great is the video equipment we brought the, we caught them cold,
make America great again? I mean, I just have to imagine. Imagine being like this guy who screwed up
in this way, you know? It's like literally the president of the United States decides to go in to the
camera security room and watch and wait for your mistake to pop up on screen. And oh, yeah.
I just got fired by the president.
But I dare say Mr. President is now the victim of so many other contractor problems
that many people have had in the United States.
And I might point out the guys who are working on that don't look very white to me.
That's all I'll say.
I was going to say the guy in the sunglasses sort of looks like Trump.
I'm sorry, John.
I was saying when you're the delivery driver and you download it,
at that point you just say something's damaged, you put it back there and it's not your fault.
so for
not just
they were stupid
on like three different levels
you know
really
the guy with the backpack
they didn't have to let it happen
they could have written it off
and not been in trouble
yeah they tried to sneak it by
the president of the United States
you'll never notice
nobody's ever going to say
there's not like there's cameras here
yeah
that's Trump undercover right there
yeah
do you guys
do you guys remember that hilarious meme
of Trump yelling at the kid, cutting the grass in the White House lawn.
He's like, who destroyed this stone?
The guy with the backpack blower, I'm sorry, man, he looks Central American to me.
I'm maybe the only white guy in the world who owns a backpack blower.
I love how Trump is so like, you know, you can't use the word autistic to describe anything about Trump, right?
But like, I love how Trump is so particular about the quality of the buildings that he constructs.
He's like, I built so many.
I think, you know, at heart, that's kind of what he looks at himself as is like a builder of building.
Because he's worked, like his whole life, it's been in real estate and construction.
You know, and I think he, you know, I think he, I really genuinely believe he takes a particular kind of pride in, you know, to him, what is making America great again.
And it's rebuilding the, it's literally remodeling the Rose Garden of the White House.
It's adding a massive event venue to the White House.
I mean, I hope it doesn't look horrible, you know.
I mean, I really haven't seen any reason to knock down Trump's taste on basically like anything.
Maybe his food choice.
Well, as it relates to like aesthetics and stuff.
I mean, they got like beautiful women, beautiful buildings.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not going to
The the
The goche nature of the various Trump towers
Could be brought up, but I'll leave that
I'll leave that be they're iconic in their own way
But yeah
This reminds me at that time I stumbled across a CD
About the sounds of Mexico and it was just a leaf blower
Going for 60 minutes
Oh goodness
But hey these
These are the jobs Americans won't do guys, you know.
Well, I mean, as a guy who did work in the manual labor industry for several years, you know, I was actually a stone mason.
People will know this.
But it's just you just see it everywhere where you go that there is a, let's just call it a, let's just call it a, there's a degree of laziness that is going on throughout the entire, you know, contractor and manual labor industry.
throughout the whole country.
And what I kind of chalked this up to while I was there was just, again, most people's
jobs are just undercut by foreigners.
It's definitely a huge problem with it.
But the other thing is just the massive amounts of regulations for setting up your own shop,
it's just people don't really have the incentive to do like such an amazing job at these.
A lot of these guys are literally just taking anybody who will come and work for them.
There's really no mechanism to actually, you know, for upward mobility if you're getting paid
really well unless you want to go open your own shop and that comes with a whole bunch of other
problems i mean no deporting everybody would certainly help uh this industry but uh it certainly wouldn't
fix it no not fully we have youtube and trade skills we are trade schools we can train new people
eventually oh yeah yeah yeah for sure and uh these jobs just need to pay well much much better as well
uh if you want to attract like good candidates to actually be doing work like this so
All right.
I was just going to say he paid more for most of these renovations out of pocket, hasn't he?
Yeah, to my knowledge, yeah.
Yeah, which, I mean, how do you fault the guy he's donating this as a public service?
But a lot of people are complaining about changes of the White House.
I mean, the White House has to be renovated because it's 200-something years old.
I mean, mine of Pete's lifetime, they had that major renovation in the early 80s.
So it's an old building you have to repair it.
This had to happen.
and he's doing it out of pocket.
I can't throw any stones here.
Yeah, no.
I see no objection to this.
Nope.
But I just thought it was funny.
Like Trump sees one gash on the stone.
He's like, find me the man responsible for this.
That's a lot of money on stone.
And it is a pain to move.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, trust me, stone.
And stone's very, very expensive.
Let me tell you.
Yeah.
On that note, it's interesting stone masonry companies,
because they're an example of a big business that's mostly family-owned,
just because the economy of scales to go with transportation.
So you get stone masonry companies have been owned by a family
for five or six generations in the U.S.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
So that is it for the stories for this evening.
I just felt like I had to report that to everyone here because it was a cool one.
But so let's go through the last minute of the super chats
and we'll shut her down for the evening.
So back to our Superjack catch up, we got Cringwalker sending us another five bucks once again.
The Midwest voted Trump, so they are being punished by their Democratic governors.
Well, it certainly feels like that way.
There's a huge fight going on right now in like the House of Michigan,
where $5 billion are just missing from the budget right now from Governor Whitmer.
And the House Republicans are asking, where is this money?
Where did it go?
and there's just no response with anybody.
That state isn't a particularly bad spot right now
because it's just ruled by women at all levels.
The governor is a woman.
The attorney general is a woman.
Just everything in that state is run by women,
and it sucks.
So hopefully Michigan can have a turnaround in the midterms.
Don't put fucking Tudor Dixon up
as the challenger for governorship next time.
You jackasses.
But anyway.
Polly B. for the big super chat of the evening,
50 bucks. Thank you very much, sir. We greatly appreciate that. I would give you some gold, sir, if I had any to give you. So, heartfelt question, he asks, what makes one notice, an orientation towards truth, having an ordered moral compass? Because when I think about it, what pisses me off the most is that the person I used to be was killed by the subverters of our nation's soul.
I mean, this really is like the question, right?
You know, like, why is it the guys like us,
whether it's people in the chat or guys who actually make content in this thing?
Why are we this way?
You know, it's definitely...
Well, here's what I would say is that if you look at how many people actually do
and actually how many people do go down the rabbit hole
and how many don't, and that it's the overwhelming majority,
then you have to realize that if your plans are that you're going to radical,
you want to radicalize large sections of the population,
first of all, that's not going to happen.
Most people are not going to become radicals.
They just don't.
It's uncomfortable to them.
It's rude.
Most people are not going to do that.
So, you know, get over your democracy bullshit.
You know, oh, we just get 10% or 20%.
No, it's always going to be a small group of people.
And, you know, I mean, I get it.
You know, I wish.
I said something on Twitter today.
I said someone was talking about the JQ.
And I said, look, if you don't understand the JQ,
the last 2,000 years of history, when you study it,
you feel like there's something missing.
Because that's always the way I felt.
I would study history.
I'd be like, the last 2,000 years of European and American history, I'm like,
there's something wrong here.
There's something that's being left out.
And as soon as I discovered the JQ, I'm like, oh, well, there it is.
Elite theory.
There's a small group acting in their own self-interest who are much more organized than
everyone else.
And somehow they have money that, you know, where did that come from?
and they're working against everybody else in their own interest.
So, I mean, yeah, it's once you see it, you can't unsee it.
And once you see it, it kind of leads you if you're someone like me to want to tell other people.
And that's when things really start going.
You know, you really have to buckle up and prepare for what comes after that.
I think a surprising number of people are devoid of any intellectual curiosity and will believe basically whatever they've been told.
That's certainly true.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's definitely a big question.
One of the things I check up on.
Which is another reason why when people say, oh, they're all going home.
Okay, great.
Yeah, I want that.
But you don't understand.
that once you start that, you have people, and I'm not just talking about boomers,
you have people who are like, well, wait a minute, that's my neighbor, they've lived next to me
for 10 years, we go to church together, I don't want him to leave.
So now you're, what, fighting your own population?
I mean, these are people, I'm talking about people who voted for Trump, who voted for Trump
to deport them all.
until you come to the realization that people are people are never going to be as radical as you are
and that you know most people are haven't hardened their hearts as much as you have you realize that
whatever you're setting out to do whatever you think needs to be done is not only not only the
people, there aren't only the people who are radically against you all the way on the other
side who are going to fight against you. But there are people on your side right now who are
going to be like, no, no, wait a minute, you're going too far. So if you're not taking this
all into consideration and you're just throwing slogans out there, I mean, I'm, what, what,
you want to have a conversation with me?
I'm sorry.
I'm a little more intelligent than bumper sticker slogans.
Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, to Pauleyby, it's not so much.
The thing I've found is it's like it's either you notice or you don't, right?
Like I think you've named it an orientation towards truth, an order of moral compass.
Yeah, these are necessary things.
And they're, you know, as Dr. Fieldhouse said, an intellectual curiosity.
Yeah, that'll do it.
But the issue so much now isn't, you know,
as Pete was kind of talking about.
It's not about whether or not you notice something
and whether or not you're able to throw out
a few pieces of rhetoric.
It's, what are the models you're using?
And by that, I mean, like, what are your priors?
You know, what is, what is the paradigms, the heuristics,
the models of information processing that you are using
to create a picture of the world?
And secondly, how much do you believe in what you say?
right how much do you but that's that's the the problem now it's not so much it's not so much
you know whether one notices or not anymore it's more so is like do you believe really to the
and are you willing to take things to the logical conclusion do things need to be taken to their
logical conclusion you know on on one issue or another issue right that's the that's the problem is
a lot of people and this is this is something we're starting to see more and more as the
as the steam kind of starts going out of the scene with the victory of Trump and all
A lot of people are just, we're just simply here to repeat slogans back at other people.
And really, it's just, you have to ask yourself this question is, do you actually believe what you say you believe or is it just rhetoric to you?
And it's fine if you've said things in the past and you're like, oh, well, this was just rhetoric.
I didn't really mean this, but just be honest about it and understand that.
So I don't know.
I'm kind of with Pete on this, though, is like, you know, noticing is just something.
I think it's a gift from God.
and, you know, these other things that you mentioned, Pollyby,
and that we've talked about kind of bring you to it,
but ultimately now it's not about noticing anymore.
It's about, you know, how, like, seriously, fully are you willing to take what you believe?
How much are you willing to stake on it?
Yeah, I would say I'm excellent points all around, gentlemen.
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Where I grew up in rural Tennessee, every construction crew was American just 15 years ago.
I have friends who do masonry, and they are so low-balled now.
Yeah, definitely my experience, man.
It's hard to emphasize how recent ago that was.
Yeah, yeah.
just so much work to be done.
And then finally, we got
Kringerwager for the last
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September will be shaky, by the way.
UK, France, and U.S. reviewing bonds,
reviewing bond values and such.
Also, Biden's housing voucher for migrants expire.
Chaos is coming.
Yeah, well, buckle up boys and girls
for September then.
If the housing vouchers are all expiring at that time, that could be a lot of instability in a lot of urban areas.
Yeah, it could be a preemptive reason why the Trump administration is calling for the National Guard to be in Chicago, which apparently, you know, the last I saw, it looks like they're actually going to do it.
So we'll see.
on that note is whether they do it or not he's done an amazing job of making the whole opposition react to him
oh yes absolutely no that's that's the thing trump is trump is the great man of the present moment
that you know again your your your moral judgment of him can vary right but but trump is the great
man of the present moment and he really has taken and reoriented the entirety of american
political life around his person and
the by forcing your opponents the left is not used to being reactionary like this right that's why they're
it's a wonderful it is a they are flailing oh yeah yeah it's great i mean we covered last week or maybe it was
two weeks ago i don't even remember at this point he's all run together at this point but covering the
summer meetings the dems had and stuff and man oh man they they've got fucking nothing right now man
yeah that convention of the last week was hilarious oh yeah they just have nothing
they might what they're probably going to try to do is they're going to try to throw a Hail Mary
under a new Bill Clinton presidency with Gavin Newsom they're going to try to win back the tech
people with Newsom Newsom's already trying to make overtures to the Joe Rogan the ephemeral
Joe Rogan voter and stuff like that the Dems are going to start trying to throw some bones
to white people that's the strategy they're going to pull in 28 and so the big question
mark I see hanging over the scene right now is how is how will the momentum be kept up after
Trump leaves is Vance going to do it as far as I'm concerned Vance is not exactly priced in yet
maybe he's maybe he's a hidden genius maybe he's just like a kind of you know a more moderate
Trump who knows we you know we don't know maybe maybe maybe Nusson will be greatly successful
maybe he won't we don't know no
a lot of time left.
So we'll see.
And Crenge Ruggerson's in one final super chat under the buzzer.
So for five bucks, he says, 20% of offices are vacant.
Soon, same for housing, methinks.
Yeah, well, that's hope.
Yeah, I know Elon talked to that about a year or so ago,
because it was at the office real estate is a huge part of what sits on the balance sheets
for lots of banks in the U.S.
And, yeah, I'd be, I think in a lot of urban areas,
it's probably a lot higher than 20% on occupancy rate,
because that's what I see, I see a lot higher numbers
when I drive around it.
So to the point that they're starting to have the grass grow wild
in a lot of these office parks and maybe a third of the,
you know, campuses are even used at the moment.
So, yeah, that's, you know, suddenly that's a dead asset
sitting on a bank's balance sheet.
It's like, what are they going to do with that?
It's not going to be good for the bank, not that I really care about them, but it's going to end up being bad to us for some degree.
Will you allow me one more, one more quick little screed before we go?
I know you want to get this wrapped up, but that reminds me of something.
The grass growing in office parks.
I just finished up reading a book about the 14th century, the 1300s.
And one of the last lines of the, in one of the last, you know, the last chapter was talking about the state of Paris,
which used to be like the center of Europe.
And now the half lived in suburbs of Paris,
you know,
there were reports of wolves attacking people, right?
And so I'm wondering, like,
as, you know,
this demographic crisis that we have,
that we've talked about earlier kind of hits us.
And there will,
I think the future,
there will just simply be less people on earth than there are now.
And like these,
you know,
already you take these abandoned,
you know,
office parks,
these abandoned houses,
all these other stuff,
you know,
these suburbs that are,
you know,
probably going to,
the bank can't maintain.
them, the contractors can't maintain them, and they'll just be just left there to rot.
You know, maybe some will be lived in, some won't be, it'll kind of look like how Detroit used to
look. I'm wondering if that's the future, even in major metropolitan areas that, you know,
for the last 100, 200 years have been just booming, growing, growing, growing, growing.
So, I don't know, just a future vista for you to ponder.
All right, definitely things to contemplate for sure.
So, well, that's going to wrap us up here for the evening.
gentlemen. So Pete, what do you have to promote, sir?
I just dropped my live stream from this past Sunday with
Thomas was on for the first 45 minutes and then
myself and martyr made went almost three hours and
there'll be enough there to piss everyone off, so check it out.
Yeah, no doubt. Mr. Fahrenheit, do you have anything
report? No, no, nothing. Just support the old glory club.
All right. Excellent. And then our special guest this evening, Mr. John Fieldhouse.
Do you have anything to promote, my friend?
I mean, I've got a substack that I need to start publishing at.
I see my stuff there. I do a bunch of stuff with Pete.
I do some stuff with other guys behind the scenes.
And I do research work, so if somebody needs a researcher, I work cheap.
All right. For myself, I will be streaming on my own channel on a Sunday.
some more just chill Sunday gaming stuff.
So if you can check that out over there,
maybe I'll make an appearance on Rule Zero or Post Zero
if the topic interests me.
So take a look at that over the weekend.
But as always, be sure to check out the Chapter House on Wednesdays.
And I was about to say Coney Express Radio on Mondays.
It was like, no, that's ridiculous.
Now, American Spirits on Mondays.
So definitely check out the great stuff that's going on over there.
And we'll be back here next week.
See you guys then.
