The Pete Quiñones Show - 10/31 Old Glory Club Livestream - 'The Garbage King' w/ Guest Michael Farris

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:35 Trump on Dunbiog, Kosh Faragea. I want to welcome everyone to Pony Express Radio number 59. It's Piquinez. Filling in for Red Hawk. Red Hawk is in the Gimp basement with Doug right now, so we don't know if he's going to be let out, maybe.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And yeah, so say hello to our guests, our panel here. Charlemagne, How you doing? I'm good. I just finished my delicious ice cream sandwich snack. Yeah, I know. Yeah, Paul Fahrenheit.
Starting point is 00:02:49 How you done? A lot less happier than I was when I started the day, given that the demographic makeup of trick-or-treaters has depressed me immensely. Gibbs, Gibbs, Gibbs. It's a Gibbs Day. And our special guest, somebody who has been gracious enough to have to have. have me on his show a couple of times. He's had Dark Enlightenment on. He's pushing the envelope. Michael Ferris. How you know, Michael?
Starting point is 00:03:20 I'm good, man. I'm just waiting for the election next week. It's just going to, you know, solve all my problems, and I can go back to the couch and everything will be Utopia again. Okay, Boomer. Say down. Sorry. All right. So I guess the first thing we should talk about is that a Nazi rally was held at Madison Square Garden this past weekend that had ripples across. the punditry world, especially when it comes to garbage. So do we have any...
Starting point is 00:03:54 How iconic is this right now? I mean, well, first of all, you had him... He's doing this all the time now. He goes to McDonald's. He does the Norman Rockwell thing, and here he is. being garbage main. What did y'all think when you saw this? Well, last week I went on a long diatribe about the kings of France and how they were educated.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And I mean, you know, this really is, you know, Donald Trump is firmly stepping into the executive role that, in all honesty, it's, you know, if he wasn't born for it, he's absolutely being formed for it. and he recognizes that what the United States needs now more than ever is someone who is so completely in so completely secure so completely in control of things so firm of a hand so paternalistic etc etc that you know you can go off and be a garbage truck driver even for a photo op and have it leave no discernible mark, like literally almost, like his clothes are clean, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:17 have it leave no discernible mark on him, but at the same time he gets the glory for doing it. You know, so that's really, I do think that this is, this is, you know, for the short-term stability of the country, this will be absolutely, absolutely vital.
Starting point is 00:05:34 But, you know, as has been said, it will not, it will not address the underlying issues that will be here after he's gone. I think the best thing I heard was the story behind this, because obviously if he's in the garbage truck, him putting on this vest makes a lot of sense, but then he went and spoke and he's still wearing the vest. And the story goes, and he was saying it in a self-deprecating way that we haven't heard in like 2016 or 2020. He's like, I'm not going to wear that up there. give me my blue jacket and they're like, sir, you think it makes you look thinner? He's like, oh, okay, okay, put it on, put it on.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I'll go up there with this. I'll go up there with this. That's so classically, Trump. He's kind of, what is it? It's like, it's like faux vanity. He's like making fun of himself, but at the same time, everyone knows that that's probably not how it went. He also, Trump, when he does these photo ops, he's never sort of larping at,
Starting point is 00:06:45 like a lower class person or something he's always he's always Trump he's Trump in the costume of a garbage man he's Trump at McDonald's but he still has the tie on he's completely unblemished you know it's not like some of these other politicians
Starting point is 00:07:01 when they go out and campaign and they don't usually even as go as far as he's doing but they sort of pretend to be you know one of the middle class or lower class like and they they try and fake it but Trump the reason these things work for Trump is because
Starting point is 00:07:17 he doesn't pretend to like not be Trump, not be part of the elite upper class. He is just donning the garb but there's no real pretense about it. It's just sort of played straight. And I think that's why it actually appeals to people because
Starting point is 00:07:32 he's not actually like talking down to people because it's sort of patronizing to how someone like Trump like actually pretend to be like just like you um i think that's what a lot of a lot of people on the left who vote democrat have just fundamentally missed this about trump like nobody who votes for trump is under the illusion
Starting point is 00:07:59 that trump is not an elite um or or that they think he like really is like like someone who who can do who does a garbage truck thing and who can like serve fries and it's like totally comfortable with doing that i mean that's that those are like bits that he does and it's it's endearing because um there's there's no there's no pretense about it in terms of you know he's just he's just playing it straight and i think i think a lot of leftists because they operates much more um on this emotional level in terms of having to like They have main character syndrome much more often, and they need to really feel like the other, the politician representing them is just like them in some capacity. And nobody thinks Trump is like them, even when he's doing these things.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And I think journalists and leftists in general just fundamentally don't get this. the way the right perceives its star politicians, which at this point are basically like just Trump and arguably J.D. Vance. Like nobody's looking for that politician to like be like them in some way. He's coming across as like the perfect kind of patrician. He reminds me of the, like if you work construction and the CEO shows up to the job site. And if he's a really nice guy and everybody loves him, you don't mind that the helmet is brand new and doesn't have a scratch on it. You don't think he's larping. You think he's there to just, you know, let you know, hey, I think you're doing a really good,
Starting point is 00:09:48 you know, doing a really good job. Love you guys. And it's just a, it's way more paternal or patrician, nobles oblige. I mean, you can use a, you can use a ton of terms for basically how he's coming off to the American people. And I think that's why a lot more, people are coming in his direction now. Yeah, there's a natural hierarchy present in Trump and the way he does things that's not in Democrat politicians because, you know, their side is like fundamentally leveling. And, you know, for the CEO to come to the job side or whatever, like there's an expectation that the, this, this class barrier is broken.
Starting point is 00:10:36 but it's preferable for someone in a more patrician role to perform their duties as they're supposed to and respectfully in relation to you performing your duties at a lower level. Like, there's nothing wrong with hierarchy, basically. And that's why if the CEO comes to the job site and he is performing the role he's supposed to perform, respectfully and admirably there's no issue with him being higher in the hierarchy. It's when these
Starting point is 00:11:14 leftists who want everyone to be like brought low to the same level, they fundamentally have a problem with that. But there is no problem with hierarchy. That's what it really comes back to is, you know, the left
Starting point is 00:11:30 doesn't understand hierarchy. Or they understand it and they want to destroy it. Whereas people on the right, respect hierarchy. And that's why there's no issue whatsoever with the fact that like Trump isn't really just like, you know, one of the boys or something. You had any comments on this, Mike? Yeah, I was going to say, I also, you know, I look at this as another example. And, you know, I was, I had Chris Zeman, the Zeman on my podcast over the weekend and he brought this up is, you know, over the last couple of weeks, you had McDonald's, Rogan,
Starting point is 00:12:04 now this. And, you know, as we were winding down the campaign here in the next couple of days, it's an end of an era. And, you know, he's going out with a bang, you know, kind of the finale of a fireworks display, because I'll never see the political movement that the Trump era, the era, the age of Trump, never seen this before. Whether you love him or you hate him, he changed it. And I don't, I'll never see this again. in my lifetime what he's done.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And it, you know, try to appreciate, I'm not really good at living in the moment, but, you know, to take a step back and, you know, reflect on what it was like when he came into this. And this truly is the end, no matter what the outcome of the election is, because he won't be able to, he'll be, he won't run again after this if he loses. But I can't, I don't remember a president ever, though, who, and, and, and, and, and, and, Z-Man's right, you're right, this is the end of an era, era. But if he wins, we're going into something, we're going into a presidency like we've never, we're going into a president-elect
Starting point is 00:13:21 period like we've never seen before. We have no, the sky's the limit. We don't know what is going to happen. It could be peaceful, which we know it's not going to be, it could be, it could be, you know, as Charles Haywood has been saying, you know, a Lutvac kind of coup attempts could happen. So as we're leaving this and as we're, you know, enjoying him in his garb, you know, in the garbage truck and him at McDonald's and him on Rogan just cutting it up with Rogan, we have to remember that, you know, between the fifth and the fifth of this month of, the coming month and the 20th of January, this could be a period like we've never seen before in the history of this country. What do you see for like for next week, Pete? I mean, I'll make the prediction here and people can put up the clown emojis and everything
Starting point is 00:14:24 because they think I'm, you know, think I'm a clown. But I think we're going to be doing our live stream next Tuesday and we're going to know Trump won before midnight. I mean, it's going to be so, I think it's going to be so lopsided. be like mail-in ballots aren't even going to matter. And I think it's going to be at that point, we're going to go to sleep that night and wake up the next day and wonder what the hell, you know, what are we going into? I think the open question will be the popular vote.
Starting point is 00:15:01 We may know that Trump has won fairly early, but there's a very early. but there may be some shenanigans just to prevent him from getting the popular vote. And obviously that matters quite a lot in terms of his mandate. If he wins the popular vote, which does matter, you can pretend like it doesn't matter all you want, but both the electoral college and the popular vote certainly matter in some sense. And if he loses the popular vote, that could be done through, you know, the mail-in system that we're familiar with at this point in order to facilitate some sort of unrest between the election and inauguration day. I don't think it's particularly likely, but there's definitely
Starting point is 00:15:50 a non-zero chance of rather than fortification this time, there are, you know, as you alluded to, some sort of a lutewalk-esque provocations that could potentially result in Trump not being inaugurated for some reason. I think that there's a very low likelihood of that happening, but there could also be some sort of legal shenanigans happening. Who knows? I think the election night will be a lot smoother than last time. I don't think we're going to not know until like three in the morning. It might take a little longer than midnight, but I think it will be clear that Trump has won the election
Starting point is 00:16:31 but that said we need to watch what's happening very closely in the intermediary period because myself I don't buy you catch them in the corner of your eye distinctive by design
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Starting point is 00:18:06 with every possible avenue they can to, if not, prevent him from taking office, place some sort of Damocles above his head, kind of like they did with the Marussia stuff, right? Like if they can put some sort of black mark or obstacle on his administration before it even starts, then that could be a way of preventing him from achieving his purported agenda. I don't think they want him to just come in and put the woke away.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I think they want him to be as unsuccessful as possible. So rather than a steal or something like that, we may see the president-elect period be used in order to keep so much baggage onto his incoming administration that it cripples them in some way. Maybe this could be related to Ukraine and Russia because I expect that. I mean, obviously, that's the thing they like to play, right? As the Marussia card, maybe they'll try playing it again. We know that there's, if he comes into office, it's going to have implications for the war
Starting point is 00:19:15 that will take it in a different direction than what Kamala Harris would likely pursue. and it might be possible that they will try and use that against him, you know, through some sort of obscure law or whatever that has to do with, you know, him even conceiving that he would, you know, be negotiating with Russia, even in an unofficial capacity before he comes into office. Oh yeah, that's something that I've said that I think is going to happen. I think that he is going to negotiate the peace between Russia and Ukraine as president-elect, and that's going to make people insane. That's going to make them even more insane. Something that Michael brought up when I was on his show last week was that, you know, he said you realize that Kamala has to certify the election.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Now, how great would it? be, I mean, not great, but just for pure theater. If she said no, she's not going to do it. I mean, what happens? I don't even know what happens in that case. What would be the, you know, what people would do, what you would do. Yesterday, counselor, I had a counselor in column on, and Jim had said, I don't remember what the law is or how they, what the amendment is now. But apparently after 2020, they've changed things or amended things to where the person, the VP is just basically a passer on.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Like they have no authority to stop it. And I apologize for not knowing what the term is off top of my head. Well, that's good. I mean, it would be very interesting and it would get us closer. I think in some ways it would get us closer to some of the goals that we would have. because it would just delegitimize the regime even more. But, you know, you would, we don't want, I don't want to see people, well, I don't want to see some people.
Starting point is 00:21:31 But, yeah, I don't want to see, you know, violence over this. But I don't know. What do you guys think? I think that. The arcane law, by the way, to pay the new election certification rules is the arcane law. Okay. Well, I will say this. A lot of people believe that, I don't want to use the frigging word.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So there's two words. One starts with C. The second one starts with W. Okay. And a lot of people believe that, you know, we're not there yet. And my response to that was in, you know, the, The idea of that occurring in the 19th century wasn't really a reality for people until what happened with John Brown, which was a year. You know, I mean, yeah, it was on the eve of one of the most important elections in history.
Starting point is 00:22:35 But, you know, I guess first as tragedy, second is farce. But, you know, I mean, you know, when John Brown occurred, that was sort of when the ship, left harbor and there was nothing you could really do about it. So, I mean, I personally think that you know, Donald Trump will win overwhelmingly on election night. Kamala not certifying the election results or people stamping their fist. I mean, you know, I mean, and if if I were them, the reasonable course of action to take would be just hold on for four years later. as many booby traps as you can for Trump. You know, there's only so much damage he can do,
Starting point is 00:23:21 batter down the hatches, protect your influence networks, wait for him to run out his course, and then you put up Newsom in 28 against whatever Mickey Mouse candidate that the RNC inevitably picks. You know, and that would be what would be reasonable. But, you know, these, I am, I am less inclined to believe that these are reasonable, competent people. And I understand that some people will put forth that, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:53 oh, if they were just incompetent, then every so often something would go our way. Well, every so often something does go our way. It's just there's not a lot of press on it, you know. But these people are deranged, very irrational, and are losing what little that they have left to lose. And if they are given a provocation like what occurred in 1859, then something like this could easily, you know, just snap in a year. I mean, shoot, this was in 1850. Now, obviously there were state militias and there were state governments and things like that.
Starting point is 00:24:41 But like, we have those today. We have those in our present day. The Hurricane Helene relief taught me something about relationship dynamics between the National Guard and active duty army. But, you know, this sort of thing, the Confederate government was spun up in a few months, if that, in a month. If that, in a month. And this was when the fastest form of transportation and communication you had was telegraphs, right, which admittedly, yes, transmitted instantaneous information, but not a large. quantity of it. Imagine something like this. We know what the sides are. We know exactly where it would break down on. We know it would be a little bit more complicated than, you know, 1860, but
Starting point is 00:25:32 it's possible. Precisely because of how irrational it is, it is possible. And I don't want anyone for a second to think that because it is, you know, completely unfathomable. or there's no way it could happen. Wars are not rational things. Wars are a lot of times results of a highly tense situation in which cooler heads are not present to belated decision.
Starting point is 00:26:04 So I know I've been talking for a while. No, that's perfectly fun. So do we want to talk about the joke that started the whole garbage thing? I can say something about that. Well, I just want to give my thanks to President Biden for switching sides at the critical hour and campaigning for President Trump. Thank you, President Biden, for everything you've done for this country.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I mean, it's pretty obvious that he is now just campaigning for Trump, right? Like the whole garbage people, which was kind of, it's so. obviously an intentional repeat of Hillary Clinton's basket of deplorables. Like the whole Magahat thing is some other things he said, I refuse to believe that this is just senile Joe or something, making flubs. There's no way he didn't do it on purpose, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And just to cap Mr. Fahrenheit's point there, I don't think Kamala Harris really cares about the election. I mean, she's just obviously wasted, like, all the time. It's like she doesn't strike me as someone who actually thinks she's going to win the election or cares about anyone else, which kind of means she could do anything, because there's no way that this woman actually believe she's going to win. But she's certainly a spiteful mutant, which, you know, if we look at how Biden has turned on his own party,
Starting point is 00:27:41 she could easily do something similar or just some other random behavior because she's a completely unsurious person and is clearly not actually invested in this campaign or the country at all but do you agree with my take on the garbage comments from Biden Pete? Yeah I think that he is
Starting point is 00:28:09 I think he's very spiteful about this whole thing. It's obvious that he didn't put out those tweets saying that he was stepping down and endorsing Kamala. And then he seems like he's everything he could possibly do since then. I think it's only been three months to basically sabotage her. And you think the thing that they'd want to do is just like leave him in the White House.
Starting point is 00:28:38 it have the perfect be like, well, you know, with everything's going on with Israel and Ukraine and the economy, you know, President Biden's working hard yet. They could just hide him. Every once in a while he can walk out there, you can see, he can walk out and just wave. So, you know, he hasn't died yet. But he's managing to get out there. And I think that that's probably probably has something to do with his wife, too. I think his wife has to be more upset than any, more upset than him. because, I mean, let's face it, she's the one who enjoyed all of this the last four years. I mean, it's like, yeah, they say a wedding, the wedding day is really not about the bride. It's about the bride's mom.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's like, this is like what this is like. It's like the past four years haven't been about Joe Biden. It's been about Jill Biden. And she's probably more spiteful than anyone. Yeah, good point. So, yeah, going back to that, MSG, did anybody, anybody see any of the footage from there, the
Starting point is 00:29:43 jokes, the absolute cringe Rudy Giuliani take on Israel, but it seems like it seems like everybody was concentrating on the jokes and you know, they get some gay comedians to go up there and just
Starting point is 00:29:59 shit on Puerto Rico and a joke really only lands if there's some truth to it and it is a floating garbage dump in the middle of the Caribbean right now. And yeah, it's, I think it's hilarious that some people have hung their hat on riling up the Puerto Ricans to vote like they weren't to vote for Kamala in the first place. Like they carry an electoral college vote.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah, the Rudy Giuliani moment was really pathetic. But then again, given what is happening to him, you know, basically literally everything's been taken from him by the court case that he lost regarding the defamation of those two black women. And in regard to the 2020 election, you know, it's hard to blame him for becoming a total suckboy for Israel because, like, maybe those are the only people who can help him now. I don't know. So I don't want to be too hard on him given I don't even particularly like him that much but it's like given what they've done to him it's like I'll cut him a lot of slack at this point.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah, choose in between Giuliani and the two primates that they gave his penhouse to. I'll pick Giuliani. You know, at least he, at least we know he's not going to be with us much longer. Do you guys find what's interesting about this. Like, you know, I talked to, you know, boomers, some family members this week and kind of
Starting point is 00:31:42 like the R&C where, you know, they were just like, did you see MSG? It was amazing and, and, you know, it was so motivating and so inspiring. And, you know, I didn't watch the whole thing, but Trump's speech to me was, I don't know, it was similar to every other speech that he does, right? Giuliani wasn't that. And I mean, I've always liked Mayor Giuliani, you know, watched him and how he handled 9-11, but I don't know,
Starting point is 00:32:10 it wasn't, didn't grab me. I like talk Hogan, though, but you know, it was cool. I mean, it's a circus.
Starting point is 00:32:23 The reason why Hogan Hogan brings so much to this and why people love seeing him is because, I mean, this is all just basically a circus. And when he comes out there, just reminds us of exactly
Starting point is 00:32:35 how much, how much of a circus it is. So, Yeah, well, Cole Cogan is like the bell curve meme where he's appealing to both ends of the bell curve the most, right? Everyone else is like appealing to the, everything else in here is mostly geared toward midwits, but the whole Cogan thing is geared towards the extremes of the IQ curve. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive. By design. They move you.
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Starting point is 00:34:14 Isn't it so obvious when you encounter one on Twitter, and you're just like, oh, do I block? Do I call them a faggot? What do I do here? I usually go with just block because I like keeping my account, but I understand the alternative too. All right. Is there anything else?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Anybody wants to say about the whole MSG thing? I mean, it really didn't match up to 1939. I was hoping it was a little more like 1939, but we just didn't get there, guys. Oh, sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say it's actually a different location, too, so, you know. The locations actually moved three different times. What are you going to say, Michael? What did you guys, I mean, what did you think overall the energy of the event?
Starting point is 00:35:09 it was the typical Trump event with high energy and people just there for a party. I think there was, they said there was another thousand people outside and there were like 50 protesters or something like that. Which is really wild
Starting point is 00:35:29 when you think about it because when you think about New York City, you think about shit live central and you would think there would be a whole bunch more people out there saying their peace and everything, but no, There was a thousand extra people who wanted to get in and who were just, I guess, there for the environment. And then 50 people who probably 50 college professors from like NYU and Hunter College or something like that. What I think is interesting is what the mayor of New York was saying about it.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Eric Adams, who, you know, I know, that's his name, right? That's his name, correct? Eric Adams. Eric Adams. Yeah, I mean, and I don't like, he's been, yeah, he's been prosecuted, but I mean, if anything tells you about the state of the Democratic Party right now, it's that a lot of their, like, real on the ground corrupt machine operators, like the actual workhors that get the Democratic party system functioning have been prosecuted or, you know, otherwise been put on the
Starting point is 00:36:41 outs with their party. I mean, you know, the Blagojevich interview with, I haven't watched it yet, but I saw that there was this Blagoiavich interview with Tucker. And I mean, shoot, if you want to talk about like a down and dirty, like run of the mill old school Democrat machine operator, I mean, he, he explains it. He starts getting into Chicago politics. And it is exactly, if you've read anything about it, I mean, he explains it really well. and he doesn't hold back at all. Yeah, and I mean, and that's in many ways, the Democratic Party is kind of just how Chicago politics work writ large in the country.
Starting point is 00:37:22 You know, I mean, but Eric, you know, the thing I was going to say with Eric Adams is that, you know, the fact that he's just, you know, basically going out of his way. You know, a Democrat saying Trump isn't a Nazi is the equivalent of a Republican screaming, you know, HH, 1488, et cetera, et cetera. at the top of their lungs, you know, uh, uh, uh, frigging, uh, past the bikes, um, you know, race car at NASCAR this evening, you know, etc. Um, that's, which is a significant thing. It's like, it's like the same thing with
Starting point is 00:38:04 like Biden, you know, we were talking about earlier, Biden calling all of Trump supporters trash. It's the exact same thing. As far as the Democrats are concerned, any ground conceded is the equivalent of, you know, that on the Republican Party side of things. And so Eric Adams going out of his way, especially in regards to this event, to legitimize it as part of the quote, unquote, normal political process as an absolute breaking of ranks. And, you know, it's, it's, it's really interesting to see. Now, you know, I know I made an earlier point, but perhaps that earlier point is met for 20 years from now, but it's the same thing. But at the same time, it's, yeah, I don't see how the Democrats can actually politically organize any sort of resistance to stop Trump beyond, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:55 setting some booby traps for him in a variety of departments. Yeah. Anybody else have anything? All right. Let's move on. So, um, let's talk about Joe Rogan, somebody who, you know what's weird is I haven't watched a Joe Rogan interview in over a year probably probably going on a year and a half two years and I watched two in like the last five days which just tells you exactly how how important like the when you have a presidential hopeful and then today I'm releasing the vice presidential hopeful going on the show so I guess we can talk about the Rogan and the Trump Interstate first. I found it to be, I found there were really not a lot of, a really good, not a lot of good back and forth. There was a lot of Trump dodging on some things. Do we have a, do we have a clip from that that, from Trump Rogan that we want to play? So I always got more publicity than other people, and I didn't, it wasn't like I was trying. In fact, I don't know. exactly why. Maybe you can tell me one. Oh, I could definitely tell you. You said a lot of wild
Starting point is 00:40:18 shit. Maybe. He said a lot of wild shit and then CNN in all their brilliance by highlighting your wild shit made you much more popular. And they boosted you in the polls because people were tired of someone talking in this bullshit pre-prepared politician lingo. And even if they didn't agree with you, they at least knew whoever that guy is, that's him. That's really him. When you see certain people talk, certain people in the public eye, you don't know who they are. You have no idea who they are. It's very difficult to know. They see them in conversations.
Starting point is 00:40:53 They have these pre-planned answers. They say everything. It's very rehearsed. You never get to the meat of it. One of the beautiful things about you is that you free ball. Like you get out and you do these huge events and you're just talking and you're making, we've highlighted you on the show many times. When you did this Biden impression where he's walking around, he doesn't know what he's doing. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:41:13 It's dancing. It's funny stuff. But it's like you, and you're making fun of Elon one time, you're doing an Elon impression. It's great. You have like comedic instincts. Like when you said to Hillary, you'd be in jail. Like that's great timing. But it's like that kind of stuff was unheard of as a politician.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Like no one had done that. Anyone? Yeah, I mean, that's a fairly straight kind of normy rundown on like what made Trump popular to in the beginning. I mean, I think there's a bit more to it than just like he said wild shit. You know, it's more like he said things that appealed, not just appealed, but were directly supportive of the white middle class. I won't say working class because that's a fake and gay thing that doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:42:10 But the white middle class has been stomped on by the government for. decades and there are there have been no politicians in some of our lifetimes who have actually done anything for the white middle class at all and that's why the regime was triggered against him because they recognized that he was appealing to not just appealing to but promising to help this group that basically been slated for destruction or slavery. Yeah, I mean, and you know, what you were talking about there, Charlie, the Trump was a pressure release valve for the instincts of, you know, what has previously been called
Starting point is 00:43:08 the silent majority, but like you said, you know, basically, and it wasn't just a lower class coalition. That's the biggest mistake people make. You know, Trump was a white coalition, right? Because, you know, all political, any political demographic test that is worth its salt and is semi-honest about things has clearly demonstrated that as the United States gets more multiracial, people's voting preferences start aligning more with their specific racial in-group to a lesser or greater extent. And what Trump was, was a pressure release valve for those, not a pressure release valve, a, he spoke to the instincts of, to the nationalist instincts of masculine white men
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Starting point is 00:45:36 But, yeah, this is really, this is the end of something. This is the, I've said this before, and I really do think will win and I think it will be a very good four years for us but this is it y'all this is this is this is the last four years of anything resembling a normal america you know so so use the time wisely get ready but you know you will have four years of peace and relative prosperity but after that
Starting point is 00:46:06 who knows something we don't normally do I'm going to do Pete Budapest has a super chat here that I want to read because I think he makes a great point. When we're talking about all this, is that things didn't start changing until Musk bought Twitter. Debate me. He says, debate me, bro. Culture doesn't change jack shit. Power does.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And Seawok Dev commented on that and said, whoever moderates the public square is the one who has power. And I think that's what we're seeing now. I mean, anyone who says they haven't seen a shift in the last couple of years since Musk bought Twitter is just purity spiraling. They're caught in their ideological possession of some sort. But none of this, none of this starts to happen until, you know, Musk buys Twitter. And, you know, Musk buys Twitter and, look, I mean, he's friends with Joe Rogan,
Starting point is 00:47:11 You get Trump. He becomes friends. He starts supporting Trump. Then Trump ends up on Rogan, and people see Trump's a normal guy who can sit there for three hours, talk off the top of his head, not have to take a piss,
Starting point is 00:47:27 not really drink anything. And it's like, wow. You know, I mean, this is, when we started talking about the PayPal Mafia, it all went back to the purchase of Twitter. That's when things really started to change. Yeah, this and a number of other things, really, BTFO, Yarvon's hypothesis about money having no power at all,
Starting point is 00:47:53 because Elon Musk bought Twitter with money, and that's really all there is to it. Jeff Bezos bought The Washington Post with money, and in contradiction to some of those writings, it looks like Bezos can actually veto presidential endorsements. and it looks like as well that the Kamala Harris campaign is pretty much broke and due to a number of reasons we don't have to get into here but Trump's campaign is not so
Starting point is 00:48:23 it's pretty clear that money actually gives you a lot of power if you use it correctly which Musk certainly did I mean Musk that was how he acquired Twitter and there was really nothing else to it so the money was transformed into power through the purchase of Twitter. So this is really important because, you know, we shouldn't get the idea that, like, having enough money is not enough. Like, actually, if you have enough money, you can buy a lot of power with it, just period. You actually can just buy power, which is what Musk did.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Anyone? All right. Some of these women, they're so stupid. Yeah, that was like my favorite moment. Oh, man, that was, you just, when he said that, I'm like, oh, that's going to be cut. And it was, it was on Twitter in five minutes. It was, it was so beautiful, so beautiful, so many beautiful things said there. I mean, the fact that it turned into like a Joe Rogan, a Joe Rogan thing, where they start talking about the UFC and everything.
Starting point is 00:49:44 that was that was pretty incredible so um paul do you got something yeah i i just um i just i wanted you to come to the end of your come to the end of your talk but there was some there was another clip from this interview that i that when charlie was talking about deploying money from musk i kind of gave me an idea that it kind of dovetails with what trump was talking about but i wanted to i wanted to make sure you finished your thought first well let's play it the whole life of the white house but Lincoln had the yips about, in a way, as the golfers would say. He had a phobia about Robert Lee. He said, I can't beat Robert, because Robert Lee won many battles in a row.
Starting point is 00:50:25 He was just beating the hell out of him. You know, they tried to get Robert Lee to be on the North, but he said, no, I have to be with my state. You know, the state was his whole thing, and he went to the South. And he was, I've had generals tell me, we have some great generals, the real generals, not the ones you see on television, the ones that beat ISIS with the South. me. We defeated ISIS in record time. It was supposed to take years and we did it in a matter of weeks. These are great generals. He's a tough guys. He's not woke guys. But their favorite general in terms of genius was Robert E. Lee. In terms of strategy, you mean? Strategically.
Starting point is 00:51:01 He took a war that should have been over in a few days and it was, you know, years of hell, of vicious war. And, um... Operator of Ireland's electricity grid is powering up the Northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say, online or in person. So together we can create a more reliable, sustainable electricity supply for your community.
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Starting point is 00:52:37 I have since read about the Overland campaign, campaign and I I I I do not like it is unquestionable the once in a I don't I don't even like I don't want to compare Robert Lee I can't think of someone who who was equivalent given the position that he had I'm sure if I if you gave me a minute I could even in American history I'm sure but what Lee was able to do and he was uniquely suited so he was he was This has to do, by the way, with what Charlemagne said about Elon Musk deploying money to buy Twitter and how that propelled him into power right now. I want everyone to, every one of the viewers to put in their mind real quick that Musk deploying money to purchase Twitter is a very comparatively small amount of money. small amount of money compared to what our political opponents have.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Our political opponents have functionally infinite money. Would anyone here disagree with that, that they have functionally infinite money? Well, sure, they control the printer. Absolutely. Now, what that means is they have as much money as they need in any given situation. But within military theory,
Starting point is 00:54:00 if it's just a if it's just a tail of the tape if it's just a tail of numbers yes the larger force tends to defeat the smaller force but a smaller force can in certain outstaff outsized incidents with a very good commander who knows how to exploit it through maneuver a smaller force can defeat a much larger force through what is called interior lines what is interior lines well when you have a force of 100,000 men, 160,000 men, however much, it's really big and unwieldy. The bigger your force, the harder it is to command and control. The more you have to delegate, the more levels of command there are, there more places your orders can be misinterpreted, right? And oftentimes with armies this large, they are split into much smaller, sometimes even independently
Starting point is 00:54:55 acting army groups, right? a smaller force doesn't need to defeat like let's say a force of 60,000. They don't need to defeat an army of, you know, an army of 120,000 at once. If that army of 120,000 is split into, into four groups of 40,000, all that that army of 60,000 needs to do is fight them piecemeal one by one, right? exploit their failures in maneuver, which inevitably will happen. And this is how Robert E. Lee was able to defeat first. Well, he wasn't in command for McDowell, but at the Seven Pines, he defeated McClellan the first time at the second Manassas campaign. He defeated Pope much this way.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He defeated, was it? He didn't defeat McClellan. But then when Joe Hooker came down at this. the Chancellor'sville campaign, he did the exact same thing. Chancellor'sville was a masterstroke. And when Grant took command in 1864 for the Overland campaign, Lee almost did the exact same thing at the wilderness, but Longstreet was injured before the flanking maneuver could be perfected.
Starting point is 00:56:11 It was almost a perfect repetition of Stonewall Jackson's flanking maneuver at Chancellor'sville a year to the day almost. At North Anna, he set a trap that Grant almost fell into and would have fallen into if Lee hadn't have taken ill. And at Cold, I mean, at Cold Harbor, he just like, it was just like Fredericksburg. It was, anyway, I don't mean to get into autism with this. But the point is, is that Lee was able to consistently deploy his much numerically smaller force in such a way that he could exploit any failure of maneuver that separated any aspect of the Army of the Potomac from the rest of the Army of the Potomac, even when Grant was in. If Wilderness had gone slightly differently, Grant probably would have been fired.
Starting point is 00:56:54 right um so take this and compare this to maybe if you were astute listener you might have already put this together musk has nowhere he has money you need to have money to sit at this table but he is nowhere near the amount of money teal the PayPal mafia do not have anywhere near this amount of money that the elites do that the that the democrats do air grid operator of ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November. Have your say online or in person.
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Starting point is 00:58:45 All that they needed to do was find the weakest spot that was also the most disproportionate, the most outsized, and that was Twitter. as it was said in the super chat, Twitter is how real life is Twitter. Twitter is the center of existence right now. It is the, it is the agorum of Athens, right?
Starting point is 00:59:09 It is where everything is discussed. Everything is hawked. You know, you have the most funny, interesting character. That is what it is. Yeah, just to reinforce you that before you continue. Like, I know a lot of people aren't on Twitter and don't want to be understandably, but people who are like YouTube only or whatever,
Starting point is 00:59:29 it's like if you're not on Twitter, you're literally just non-participatory in basically the high culture. Like culture is made and defined on Twitter now. The future of the country is defined on Twitter. Like that sounds stupid to say, but it is just true. Twitter is where it is happening in real time
Starting point is 00:59:49 every single day, every single hour, every single moment now. That is where things happen. Like when we're streaming, on YouTube right now, this is like always just after action reports. Almost everything we talk about for the last year or more, however long we've been doing this show, it's all stuff that happened on Twitter. Even if the Twitter, you know, is just like a window into other parts of reality.
Starting point is 01:00:14 That really is where culture and the future is created. Anyway, just wanted to reinforce that. Yeah, and just to bring this. Oh, go ahead, Mr. Mike. No, no, I was just going to, I wanted to get you guys take on just Elon and his, you know, investment into Trump and making sure that he, you know, wins. Why do you think he is so invested in this? Do you think he's, A, trying to protect his livelihood, B, you know, his business ventures are tying into all this? Because the question that I asked myself with them, and I love X, you know, just as much as everybody else, I think, and I use it a ton. But, you know, he's tied to government contracts. And when you're tied to government contracts, you have to abide by certain rules.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And that's where I get conflicted with him and all this. And I'm just curious what you guys think. Pete, I know you and I talked about this, but I'd love to hear with the other guys and how and why he's so tied into Trump. Well, I want Paul to finish this point. But I'll answer this briefly. I think the answer is very clear and straightforward. and Elon Musk has said as much several times.
Starting point is 01:01:25 His life goal, basically, is to put a human colony on Mars, a permanent settlement. And the regime is stopping him from doing that. And that's really all there is to it. I mean, once, you know, as Stormy Waters was talking about on Pete Keonez's podcast the other day, there's no amount of money that, like, Musk has more money than he can spend. When you have that much money, your interest moves to, you know, writing your name in history, basically. And in my opinion, based on things must, as he's articulated this very clearly multiple times. He, his mission, his life is about creating a human colony on Mars.
Starting point is 01:02:11 The regime is stopping him from doing that. Trump is his way to achieve his life goal. And that's really all there is to it. I think. And we can come, we can talk about that more, but I want, I want Paul to finish his point since I interrupted him. Well, I mean, it's, it wasn't so much of a coup de grace. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the legitimately it's, you know, I was tying what Trump said about Robert Lee to, you know, Musk and the PayPal mafia, understanding that they're in a beleaguered position and that if, you know, they're, they're just going to continue to be sidelined. Um, as this goes on. And so they've decided to make a game. And much like how you can defeat a much larger army with a smaller army, you can defeat a much more financially equipped opponent with frankly just better thinking power, better basis in reality and a better understanding of your opponent's weaknesses and how you can maximize their weaknesses. And that's exactly what's happened. Now, there's also a second angle to Musk, and that is that he's completely serious about punishing the people that, as he puts it, killed his son by transing his son.
Starting point is 01:03:32 And someone like Musk, when you're turned into a genetic dead end, that's as good as death, which is totally reasonable take. So there's two things going on here, and both of them have coincided in the netherly. necessity to go all in on Trump because it's both his life goal and it's also revenge and he those are two very powerful motivations working in tandem and I don't really think there's any real complexity to musk's reasoning for getting behind Trump what do you guys think about that does that answer your question yeah thank you what I think one of the things that I would say about Elon is that, yeah, I mean, it's always about self-interest. Everyone has self-interest, and it's in his interest that Trump wins.
Starting point is 01:04:34 I mean, he was joking at the beginning of that interview with Tucker about, you know, I'm going to be going to jail if she wins. But I don't think it was a joke. I mean, I think he honestly believes that they're going to come after him. If he doesn't end up in jail, they're going to, they're going to break him like they did Trump. They'll bankrupt him. They'll take away all of his contracts. They'll make sure they'll take everything he has.
Starting point is 01:04:59 They'll take Starlink from him. Like they're doing to Giuliani right now. They'll take everything from him. Absolutely. It's in his self-interest that Trump wins. And I don't have a problem with that. I mean, you know, let some of my old libertarianism come out. self-interest, if somebody is self-interested and they're doing something in their self-interest
Starting point is 01:05:22 and they're creating something in their self-interest and it benefits other people, well, then their self-interest isn't bad. That's not a negative. Yeah, that's true. I mean, the question, I guess, is what is Musk's self-interest? And like I said, I think he plays it straight. I don't think Musk is someone who hides the ball except when he really has. to for like legal reasons or political strategy but I think for the most part he's very straightforward fairly uniquely probably because he's kind of autistic like some of us I think he's pretty straightforward about his prima facie goals no I agree I mean if he's
Starting point is 01:06:13 hiding something I mean he's doing a really he's doing a really good job it seems like he wears he's been wearing a lot his emotions on his sleeve and he's been saying stuff out loud that you wouldn't have heard him say, remember the first time he went on Rogan? I mean, trying to get anything out of him at that time was, it was like pulling teeth. And now he just gets in an interview and he just says what's on his mind.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I want to mention, too, before I forget something about ISIS and that clip we saw because, you know, I think a lot of what happened in 2020 in regard to Trump is because, of Trump, Russia, Ukraine. And Trump talks here about, you know, how he defeated ISIS in only a few months with certain generals that were clearly leashed and prevented. Like the U.S. armed, the military had the capability to destroy ISIS at any point.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Why didn't that happen? And the fact that Trump succeeded in destroying ISIS quickly is part of this Ukraine-Russia situation because where did that ISIS primarily exists. Like Trump talks about how Obama created ISIS. The State Department or Zog did create ISIS. Why did they do that, though? ISIS mostly operated at its peak. Most of its territory was in Syria. Syria is an ally of Russia. Assad is in particular. So I think this just is another one of those things that are the sort of real geopolitical reasons why they needed to keep him out of all this because he was undermining war with Russia. And that's probably the biggest, as I talked about earlier, that's probably their biggest problem with him coming in again is the possibility of once again war being undermined.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Now, you could say they've gotten what they've wanted at this point. I tend to not believe that. But I wanted to make that point too, because it's not, the whole Trump-IIS thing is not. talked about very much but I believe it's it's another part it's another piece of the puzzle about the um related to uh zog's war with russia air grid operator of ireland's electricity grid is powering up the northwest we're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans our consultation closes on the 25th of november have your say online or in person so to
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Starting point is 01:09:42 I just for whatever reason, I just saw this. Apparently Trump got the Jake Paul endorsement to. As much parted as that it is. And Kamala got Jennifer Amistin. Oh, my God. I'll take Jake Paul over Jennifer Hanniston. Well, I mean, at least... And LeBron James. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:10:05 LeBron James, too. At least Jake Paul has the influence of young people on YouTube and things like that. So today, it dropped a little over three hours of J.D. Vance on... on Rogan. So I think Doug has a clip for us. Turn these states blue forever. The same way they've done California. Exactly. And we saw this. And look, I'm like a Reagan guy, right? I'm a conservative Republican. But Reagan screwed up a lot. He screwed up mental health in this country. People don't talk nearly enough about that. The amnesty thing, you really screwed up. The amnesty thing, he really screwed up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:42 And people always say, well, you know, Ronald Reagan, you know, when they, critics of Donald Trump will say, well, look at how Reagan talked about immigration. because of what Ronald Reagan did at the 1986 amnesty, California is now effectively a permanently blue state. Except when Arnold won. But Arnold ran as a super moderate Republican. He was a major celebrity, right? He was at the height of his celebrity power, and he still won barely,
Starting point is 01:11:09 even though California had been mismanaged. California is a one-party state because of Ronald Reagan's amnesty. And that's the fear, is that the entire country could become one party. The entire country becomes that. Now, it also, you may not appreciate this, but even if you don't give people the right to vote, it really distorts congressional apportionment and then the electoral college. You know how this works?
Starting point is 01:11:29 Yes, I do. But explain it to people, please. Okay. So how many, you know, we have 435 congressional seats. Who, the way that you draw those congressional districts is that you try to draw them evenly based on population so that everybody has equal representation, right? One person, one vote, fundamental principle of American law. But you don't just count the American citizens. You also count the illegal aliens. And so, for example, the state of Ohio lost a congressional seat in the last census, and states that have high illegal immigrant populations picked up congressional seats. So you're actually taking away congressional representation from American citizens and giving it to illegal aliens.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Even if you don't give them the right to vote, you're still destroying the voting power of America. Yeah. this is the one thing we talk about is if Texas turns blue what happens so what was your take on that this is a big deal I mean one for millennials and younger
Starting point is 01:12:34 the whole Reagan thing you know he's he's a fanth with the past to us but you know destroying the Reagan myth for Gen X and older is really really important and the fact that Vance went after Reagan like this on this fundamental issue is very important. Secondarily, though, the census and apportionment of representatives, this is a big deal because if the law can be changed, it can be changed, if the law is changed such that illegals no
Starting point is 01:13:12 longer count toward the congressional representative total in an individual. individual state. That would greatly reduce the actual resistance to deporting all of these people, because obviously there's a racial aspect to this, but there's also a voting aspect. And if the Republican Party can succeed in removing illegals from this population total, then there will be less resistance than actually deporting them. Second, the next census is going to be in 2030. So what is achieved by a Republican administration in 2024 to 2028 is going to have a drastic effect on the results of that census in 2030. So if they can reduce the immigrant population, if they reduce the legal immigrant population, so-called legal, like Vance regards a lot of them as illegal as he's,
Starting point is 01:14:18 he's mentioned. And if they can get rid of the counting of illegals towards the House of Representatives, that would mean in 2030 there would be an enormous shakeup in the House of Representatives, a mass, not just a shakeup, but a massive shift towards the Republican Party to the point where, you know, they could control, they would have total control over the House base. and so yeah that's that's what's that's what's essential here so this is sort of setting up for the the post-Trump era in 2030 if they can maintain the presidency you know maybe through vance
Starting point is 01:15:05 who knows who would be the candidate right this is assuming things go well but what he's talking about here is a big deal because there's a lot more to it than just the racial aspect there's really turning the tables on the Democrats. The Democrats are about to secure, like you mentioned with Texas, a permanent control over the House. However, the Republicans can completely flip that by kneecapping them, by getting rid of what I just described. Anyone else? I mean, the fact that he's even saying that is, I mean, no Republican candidate outside of one tied to Trump would even dream of him even bringing up this idea of just axing the
Starting point is 01:15:58 illegals from the the population counts. Mr. Michael, what do you think? Do you have a take on this whole thing? Well, I was just going to bring it up another question in terms of the mass deportation that they've talked about. I mean, do you guys think this can be done? Yes. Absolutely, yes. Well, I mean, I keep hearing these stories about how in the late 30s and early 40s, like millions and millions of people were moved like en masse by train. We have technologies progressed.
Starting point is 01:16:46 We could probably move 20 million in a year if we wanted to. We just have to want to. It's all about the will. Yeah, I just did you guys see 60 minutes? I think it was over the weekend. And I saw the clip where they had a family. And the woman, you guys see that with her, like her parents and her kids. And some of them family members were there illegally.
Starting point is 01:17:09 And she said she would leave with them. And it was a whole sob story. And I just think, I'm like, God, as soon as they would start this, the media would just literally blow this thing up. And the backlash would be so huge that it just couldn't occur. Well, I mean. The question is, is how much of a mandate does Trump have when he wins? If he has a mandate, he, he doesn't need to look for re-election, right?
Starting point is 01:17:43 So, and if he implements even a fifth of the project, when we say project 2025, we don't mean the project, we don't mean the actual policy. We mean the firing of everyone in restaffing institutions. if he implements that, even a small amount of that, he'll have an executive bureaucracy that will absolutely carry out his marching orders. So it's, you know, yeah, media backlash or not, I mean, shoot, he could, he could, I mean, you know, he could find ways to hit them on FCC violations. It's however dirty, I want to say dirty, but it's however serious. he wants to get he could completely affect this it's a perfect storm it is it is his deportation to
Starting point is 01:18:38 screw up you know but the resources are there the border patrol absolutely wants to run buck wild on these people you know and the country is sick of it um like this this could absolutely happen you know it it's completely possible even with media countersignaling what i'm worried about is the drastic expansion of the H-1B system. That's what I'm worried about. Well, I mean, we're going to have to take what we can get. If we get mass deportations,
Starting point is 01:19:16 we should be happy with that. I mean, I get it. I used to be a libertarian. I want everything to be perfect. I want to be a purist. but at this point, if we can get rid of like 30 million to 40 million illegals that I assume are probably here, and it's probably more than that, then we take it.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I mean, we don't have that much control. There's a promise out there of deporting. Do I think it's going to happen? I really don't know. It depends on the day. Ask me. But, yeah, I mean, we can worry about the, the increase in legal immigration all we want.
Starting point is 01:20:00 When it comes right down to it, all we can do is talk about it. All we can do is try and influence people, but not being willing to be excited about getting rid of 30 or 40 million because legal immigration may be increased. Well, I mean, what are we just supposed to throw up our hands and say, oh, well, yeah, well, screw it. They're fucking up. Don't do anything. I mean, getting rid of illegals is pretty straightforward. It would require cooperation from the Justice Department,
Starting point is 01:20:38 but all you really have to do is impose steep penalties on corporations. Regulations. I have a friend who was a labor attorney in California. He actually was the House counsel for a bunch of these companies that were housing illegals. he was on the wrong side of this. He said the way they made it so that this could happen is by passing regulations that allow it to happen. He said all you need is regulations to make it,
Starting point is 01:21:09 we're going to take your company. If you do this, it always all comes back to will. Do you want to get rid of 30 or 40 million illegals? It's will. If you want to make sure that there's no more legal immigration, it's will. That's all it is. It's just a matter of will.
Starting point is 01:21:26 fact, you know, you just have to ask who has the will to do this? And if we want this thing to look more like we want, we're going to have to get some of our guys in there if these are the people who are not going to be willing to do it. Yes, all it would require is through those new regulations is making an example of a few selected corporations and utterly devastating those companies. And everyone else would get rid of the illegals real quick. off of their payrolls and once no one can hire them, they're gone. Remember, these people are here at will. They will just leave if they can't make money here.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Yeah, that's, we've seen, we've seen en masse more self-deportation since this crisis has started than forced deportation. So the way you do it is you just make it impossible for them to survive here. And like I said, that's just going to take someone with a will to do it. So is there anything else? Because if we don't, I think we need to hit some super chats because we have a lot of them. No, that's wrong. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:45 All right, let's do it. All right. First super chat there, Valero 393, $2 super chat. We need to become worthy of the God Emperor Trump. It's right at the beginning of this whole thing before we got all. serious. No, he's become worthy of us. It's the other way around.
Starting point is 01:23:06 That's for sure. Charles Carroll, 499 super chat. Happy Halloween's gent with a salute. Happy Halloween and tomorrow's All Saints Day for those of us who are going to Mass. Fritz Imperial $3 super chat.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Evening jents, looking forward to seeing the OGC and Valley Forge this weekend. Yeah, if anybody's in that area, you can still get together with the Delaware Crossing Society, look them up on Twitter, and I think it'll be a great event. I think Hunger, who was just on my show,
Starting point is 01:23:40 Hunger the Die Merchant, who was just on my show this week, will be the one heading that up. Speaking of hunger, $10 superjet, that's my president. The optics are really pure Americana. Is this the most culturally iconic election since Nixon Kennedy?
Starting point is 01:24:01 What do you all think? I mean, I'd push it back maybe even a little. I'd say it's more important than Nixon Kennedy. It beats Nixon Kennedy handily, I think. I don't know if it's not Lincoln Breckenridge tier. It's not Jackson Clay or Jackson. It's not that tier. I don't think at least.
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Starting point is 01:26:00 And we still, you know, even through next week, we still have a bonus season of what's going to happen between November and January. Yeah. Yeah. It's like this is incredible. Like I look at this and like maybe nothing will happen. Maybe it'll just be a landslide
Starting point is 01:26:19 and there'll be no black swans and you know, it'll just be just smooth. Or there could be some curveballs coming down the pike that none of us see coming. But it's like the anticipation every single day. Like we're counting down to Tuesday and then what from that moment on, it's like the clock starts of what will occur each and every day. And then hours in the day.
Starting point is 01:26:48 There may be chaos, you know. I think we tend to forget because no one really talks about it anymore that there were two assassination attempts on Trump during this whole thing since July. Well, and then you look at, oh, sorry, Pete. No, I said. Like with Kamala, this is what's crazy. People are going to vote for her. They bypass the primary and just installed her. They didn't even respect their own constituents to let them vote.
Starting point is 01:27:22 And they just put her in. It's amazing. Yeah, that's the interesting Rubikonda Cross, if she does win, is the fact that she was functionally. without a primary whatsoever, which we all know happens, but they have to put up the show. You know, that's, that's, you know, people talk about like, oh, you want Trump to be Caesar. Well, the actual, the one who's legally closer to Caesar is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, you know, we will be a rubicon that, you know, you know, we will never come back from. I think at that point then the narrative quickly switches to, you know, we have an illegitimate government.
Starting point is 01:28:06 And I always said that after Jan 6th, when they built the fence around the Capitol, I wish they would have kept it there and made it 20 feet high. Because it would just show it just so much more of a signal of how illegitimate these people are. You know, it's amazing that a foreign power figured out all they have to do is buy 535 people. And, you know, they can basically do whatever they want and command weapons and money for anything. So, you know, we also have to remember Tim Kelly from the Our Interesting Times podcast asked me this. And this sounds like a black bill. But he said, do elections matter when you have an occupied government? It's not a bad question.
Starting point is 01:28:57 All right. Next super chat. DJ Cogdill, down here in Alabama. He says, I've been volunteering at a facility in North Carolina since Monday, and I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm very glad I was able to come up here and help, and I owe it to the OGC.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Truly, thanks for setting up the telegram chat for it. You're beautiful, Anna. Just the way you are? You're a star. And I don't know if you're involved with the Alabama chat. but Alabama is blowing up right now in terms of, well, the sheer number of people interested in the chapter, and there may be a lot of chapters spinning off in Alabama,
Starting point is 01:29:47 so definitely reach out to the New Magnolia League, sorry, the Magnolia League, if you're not involved with them. And if you do. Wherever you are in Alabama, there may be a chapter in your area very soon. very soon. And if you do reach out to the Magnolia League and they don't get back to you immediately, know that they've been contacted by about a hundred people. Just here in Alabama, population, five million. So, yeah. You know, and, you know, Mr. Pete, I always say this whenever we end up our episodes is,
Starting point is 01:30:20 you know, and on, if you are listening to this and you haven't gotten involved yet, and you're listening to Pony Express Radio each week and you haven't yet gotten involved at the Old Glory Club, what are you doing? I keep telling you all, if you go listen to Pete shows, I keep telling all of you, very soon the old glory club will not be as accessible as it is now in the sense that you can come in and get in on the proverbial ground floor. You know, there will be a definitive divide between the people who will come to us now and in the near future and the people who will come to us, you know, a little bit later
Starting point is 01:31:00 than that. So you want to be one of the people who gets in now before the door slammed shut that divides you between the original, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to use certain terms, but the original gang, the original, the original people, the first, well, we're the second founding now, but, you know, but, but there will be a huge stark difference between those who were here for the second founding and those who will be here for the third founding. And it's coming up very close what that dividing mark will be. So get involved now if you can. Definitely, especially since, you know, it's great that we have 100 people interested in Alabama.
Starting point is 01:31:43 But this organization isn't something, especially as a grow that you'll just be able to walk into. No, we're far more interested in quality than quantity. So there's definitely reason to be one of the people who get in early, especially, because you'll be part of defining what the organization's actually going to be. You know, what we actually are is being defined by the people who, you know, were brave enough basically to put skin in the game and found these first few chapters and be these chapters and actually do stuff or, you know, do like what, what is it, DJ Cogdell said here and, you know, actually go to North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Like, these are the people actually defining who we are. So you really don't want to miss out on that. And the space to be part of that second founding phase that we're in now is rapidly closing. I mean, we are we are spawning a lot of chapters now. And they're all quality chapters. But once that's completed, you won't be able to be part of that initial group. Yeah, I think it is important to bring up that those hundred people, not all of them are going to be accepted.
Starting point is 01:32:58 All right. next super chat, Matthew Ivy, five bucks. And I just lost it. He said, I was watching Tom Woods, Dave Smith earlier. This was on Tom's show. And every time they name off Trump cabinet, they leave out Vance. Well, Vance isn't in the cabinet. He's a VP. Still doesn't understand why they hate him. I'm not going to speculate. I do know that Dave Smith is friends with Vivek. And I think Dave was hoping that Vivek would be the VP maybe. But, um, You know, it's hard to get inside someone's head. I know both of them in, but I haven't talked to them about this.
Starting point is 01:33:33 So, I don't know. Bala Bradley, $15 super chat, says, bonumdiam habeas. And best we can translate that is, have a good day. Thank you for the super chat. You too. Pete Budapest, always here with us. Thank you. $5 super chat says,
Starting point is 01:33:53 If Trump wins next week, it will signal this for the left, rebuked, not vanquished. We managed to wear them down and not allow them to set the terms. Anybody have anything on that? You spell where in this instance is W-E-A-R and not W-A-R-E, just for future reference, Mr. Budapest. All right. So next super chat, $5.2.2.2. email the OGC email twice about Helene with no response.
Starting point is 01:34:33 How often is it checked? Is there someone I can DM to get a quicker response? Anyone got that's all the way down at the bottom? So we have someone who checks the email. First and foremost, if you haven't gotten a response, I would ask you to, we've run into this issue before. People are sending emails to Old Glory Club at Gmail.com. It is actually the old glory club at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I know, I know, I know. Hey, look, it's the same as the website. The old glory club. The old glory club at gmail.com. Yeah. So make sure that the word the is included in the in the Gmail. But there is a telegram group chat to Tilos. My DM should be open on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:35:26 and if you know me on telegram, you can hit me up there. But if you reach out to me personally, I'm in that group. I can give you that invite link. And that's better than just emailing about it because that group is where all the, and this goes for anyone else, too, who's listening, who wants to get involved. If you don't want to email the OGC, you can reach out to me personally, and I can provide you with the telegram link for the group of people who are specifically involved with Hurricane Helene response.
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Starting point is 01:37:31 short a massive amount of fortification Mr. Michael what you think I mean do you see do you see Ohio going to Kamala without any fortification no I mean Ohio will go Ohio will go red I mean Cleveland will go
Starting point is 01:37:54 blue Columbus will go blue Cincinnati will go blue but the Ohio. Arizona is what I'm worried about because that's where I live. But you and I have been covered, we covered that. It'll go blue because of Maricopa. Maricopa and FEMA. Yeah, and I also believe that no one has fixed the problem with the, with vote counting in Arizona, the midterms. Did you see the ballots today? It's four pages long in Arizona. It's like a Declaration of Independence. I think that, I think the declaration was shorter than that. They said that if you, it'll take you 35 minutes to get through it if you vote every single
Starting point is 01:38:33 thing on that four page ballot. All right. Next one, Seasider here every week. Ten dollar super chat with a salute. Thank you, Cisider. We love you. Two tailos, five bucks. Found out over the weekend that my cousin who was pro BLM in 2020 is voting Trump. We're winning and it's not even close. that's quite a that's quite a jump sounds like somebody who may be going to work for Christopher Rufo Pete Budapest
Starting point is 01:39:11 $10, Kamala's speech on the eclipse was like an Irish wake, one last hurrah for the Democrat bureaucrat class to bid final farewell to the 2000s before Elon comes to town and trims the fat let that sink in
Starting point is 01:39:28 nice a nice reference there, Mr. Budapest. Let's see. I fucking rule for $5 says Trump is the boss that comes down to the job site and shakes dirty hands. Kamala Joe and people like them sit in their office and yell at their staff to find
Starting point is 01:39:54 out what the fuck's going on down there. Sounds about right. Chiefsling and beef, five bucks. Ah, yes. I'm so worried about the Puerto he can vote. I'm going to win Florida and lose New York. So, oh no, so importante. Just got to say, Pete was number one on JD being one of us. We shall see. I don't know if I would call him
Starting point is 01:40:21 one of us per se, but... No, I wouldn't either. He's a shit poster. In regards to Mr. Vance, I am backing the horse called self-interest. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Luthampilar, $10. I don't know if it was reported, but during UN Week, Hunter, and Joe visited Mayor Adams. A few days later, he was given charges. I thought it was Biden and him arguing, but maybe they were planning. Possible. Pete Budapest, $10. Don't set up debate tables at colleges, take over the university. don't debate anans online by the new york times don't audit the fed just take it over those are um
Starting point is 01:41:16 those are goals those are definitely goals to tell us another five dollars we need the full take from paul on one why virginia is going to flip well um it primarily comes down to what glen yonkin has been doing behind the scenes. You know, I mean, he has been crusading to clear as many. And look, people who live outside of Virginia or people who, you know, are tangential to Virginia and they know about Northern Virginia. They talk about like, oh, Northern Virginia is going to have too good of a turnout. No.
Starting point is 01:41:57 The, what is it? In Henrico County, they were having in some jurisdictions, 110%, 10020% turnout. It's not just in northern Virginia. Yes, Henrico's a Blue County. Air Grid, operator of Ireland's electricity grid, is powering up the northwest. We're planning to upgrade the electricity grid in your area, and your input and local knowledge are vital in shaping these plans. Our consultation closes on the 25th of November.
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Starting point is 01:43:20 But the fact that Glenn Youngkin has been going on such a state-level crusade of taking off all voter-refer. register like like if if I guarantee you that the election workers that will be working in in in Virginia under the state attorney general's office or the commonwealth attorney general's office forgive me um will things like 120 percent turnout will not fly all right it will not happen and even even in places like northern virginia even in places like northern virginia add to this the fact that in the mountains of the West, right, you have a huge population of voters who just
Starting point is 01:44:09 very rarely vote because, you know, they're closer to West Virginia than anything and they don't really care because none of the state money ever comes to them. But they turned out because of the guns issue. And that's why Yonkin won in 2022. So frankly, I think if Yonkin suppresses the Democratic machine enough, people talk about all these Nova counties, it's very possible Loudon will flip. If Loudoun flips and the West turns out, that state goes to Trump, you know, especially if Yonkin is winning these little victories and little boroughs like Henrico County. And Yonkin is an extremely competent administrator. I, you know, I don't live in Virginia right now. But, you know, when I saw, I was living in Virginia under Yonkin's administration,
Starting point is 01:44:55 and it was night and day as to how the bureaucracy function. Like something is, simple as the DMV got flipped on its head. Yonkin knows what he's doing. Yonkin, in the private equity world, you cannot be stupid, right? And he has the backing of the military industrial complex, which is another part of this equation. The military industrial complex, not all of it, obviously, but a very good chunk of it, believes that it is a matter of national security for Trump to win.
Starting point is 01:45:28 and they've started pursuing these various, you know, they used to be called SDIs, which were strategic defense initiatives, but, you know, amongst them one of the highest priorities. This is why you hear Trump talking about his Iron Dome. That's one of the top strategic priorities. George Bush was talking about something like that, some kind of missile defense as to, you know, in the early 2000s. Titoos, you're really getting a lot out of your $5 right now. now. But yes, he has multiple. He has multiple super. Yeah, okay. That's fair enough. I forgot about that. But yeah, no, absolutely. But yeah, in essence, the military industrial complex believes that it is a matter of national security that Donald Trump must be elected. And in order for
Starting point is 01:46:21 them to fulfill their SDIs, which involve a massive reshoring of industry in the United States, So frankly, the defense contracting is nowhere near as potent as it used to be because everything is run by big firms. There are very few small firms, which is killed innovation and productive capacity. There's lots of things that need to happen. And all of this centers around the state of Virginia. And, you know, I don't want to entertain the fact that I'm wrong because, obviously, I wouldn't have staked my faith and reputation on it if I thought that I could be wrong. I'm not going to even say that. I believe I am right.
Starting point is 01:46:59 And it will be tested on election day. So that is why I believe I am right. All right. Moving on. Hammering, $20 super chat. If Trump makes it in and wants to have lasting impact, he can't just swap out some staff members. He needs to abolish or replace entire departments.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Elon's experience in engineering and startups can really help here. Salute. 100% agree. The managerial state needs to be dismantled. All right. Read Things You Shouldn't with a $50 Super Chat. I think that we have some gold for him. This is gold, Mr. Bonn. All my life I've been in love with its color. I welcome any enterprise that will increase my stock.
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Starting point is 01:48:31 if you're interesting. Melon's been doing great work up there, hasn't any guess? Absolutely. Yeah, he's one of our regulars, so definitely hit up Mellon on Twitter if you're interested.
Starting point is 01:48:46 And like you said, please, like, don't bother him if you're not 100% committed to what he's asking for because the people on the ground are very busy. Valero 393, $5, super chat. J.D. Vance, what about legal immigration or was that too close to home?
Starting point is 01:49:07 Is J.D. Vance on the call? Is he on the panel? I mean, Vance discussed, like I mentioned, that a lot of the immigrants who are considered legal were illegally made legal. So, you know, clearly he's not entirely restricted to what we now define as illegal. immigrants. The horse called self-interest. Yeah, once again that. It's kind of just an irrelevant question, really, because the horse called self-interest.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Look, I like J.D. Vance the same reason that I like King Jha-hoo in the Bible, right? You know, like, I like King J-Hu, not because he was, like, great and, like, worthy in the eyes of the Lord, but because he just killed all the priests of Ball. that's what he did he wasn't a good man right trump used him or not trump sorry god used it you all call him the god emperor and that frigging um frigging you know the god used jahoo right to kill all of the priests of ball to to clean up Israel a little bit and jahue wasn't a good man that's why i like jd vance I don't feel this need to like say that he's one of us. I don't feel this need to go around and be,
Starting point is 01:50:33 oh, guys, look, he's just like me. He was an emo. It's pathetic. I don't care. J.D. Vance is married to an Indian woman while being a Catholic. And, you know, he invokes the name of Christ while going against his commandments. And I know we all do that. I understand we all do that.
Starting point is 01:50:51 But that doesn't alleviate it. right and it's frankly you don't you need to demand more of your leaders all of you i get it we have to take what we can get but in your own minds and in your own principles right you accept the leaders you're given but you you you need to you need to start expecting more you know because if you don't we're never going to get any you know that 50 dollar super chat you know may god bless us with a leader the likes of the likes of robertie Lee one day, you're not going to get a leader the likes of Robert Lee until you start demanding more of your leaders. And you need to demand someone better than J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance is the best
Starting point is 01:51:35 we got right now. And that is terrible. We're never going to pull ourselves out of this, out of this like, you know, dark age that we have been in since the Clinton administration. since, yeah, since the Clinton administration, we're never going to pull ourselves out of it. I mean, and not to say Reagan was any better, right? You know, wherever you land your yardstick, we're never going to pull ourselves out of it until you start demanding more of your leaders.
Starting point is 01:52:06 That's it. Ballaro, 393, another super chat five dollars. I agree, get excited about legal's gone home, but never settle. We should learn from the left to never get satisfied with what politicians give. case and point almost you know complete reinforcement of what i just said and also that's why we're in this mess to begin with right the the right is always compromised always compromising
Starting point is 01:52:31 accepting things that we just shouldn't accept to add to that last statement yeah our sacario review comes out tomorrow right is that right i don't know do you know charlie i'm pretty sure because it's the last friday before the election so yeah we recorded that um uh yeah I'm not the editor. I'm not scheduling these things. Okay. But, you know, the reason I mentioned that, it's just because it's like, it doesn't matter, like, how many pictures of, you know, brown people crying they show us. It's like the things that have to get done and need to be done, and we need to demand of our leaders that they do them. And I don't care how many brown people get their feelings hurt. I'm sorry, you know.
Starting point is 01:53:20 $5.00 Super Chat. Pete Budapest. Hey, look on the bright side. This time next week, it'll be totally acceptable to question election results again. Hashtag TVT. Let's see. Screwed up rebellion. Five dollars. Salute and God bless the boys. Thank you, screwed up rebellion.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Valero 393 again. $5 super chat. Rough estimated time of new chapter acceptance. Asking for my friends in the typical canoe society. Well, I mean, it just depends on how quickly you incorporate. rate. If you send us a document, a chapter application document of, you know, the five people and we deem it as a sufficient amount of backstory and we don't have any objections with any of the personnel you put forward, you know, at that point, it's up to you. It's however fast you can
Starting point is 01:54:15 get incorporated. Once you send your incorporation docs over to us, we will vote on you that next Tuesday. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, maybe the L&L will discuss it, the, the committee that we have for, uh, the discussion of chapter formation. Maybe, maybe we'll discuss it and it'll take two weeks. But, you know, that next Tuesday, usually if you, once you set, once you incorporate and send in your incorporation documents and it's done the right way, which we will happily meet with you to discuss the right way for it, but it's not super complicated. It's just a state nonprofit, right? That's all it is. Um, um, friggin
Starting point is 01:54:51 um so basically in a short version of what I'm saying a week if as soon as you get your incorporation documents done and you get incorporated in the state a week maybe two yes if we like you and one of the most important parts is filling out the bio section uh extensively ill out your bios please we've uh we've gotten some short ones
Starting point is 01:55:17 we kind of let them slide because there's already known people but It's not we're not doing that anymore. Fill out the bios. It's not a meme, you know. And if you were involved in some stuff that maybe you don't want to, you know, you're not super, tell us, worse we can say is no. And it's not hard feelings, but it's just how it is.
Starting point is 01:55:37 But like we're tolerant because we have to be of that sort of thing, you know, but we just, we want to know about it. And if you just, if you write us like a two sentence bio, we're just going to send it back and be like, come back when you're serious. You know, so keep this in mind. Be serious with us. We'll be serious with you. Yeah, we might even ask for a picture so we can do a physiognomy check.
Starting point is 01:56:03 $5 super chat from Philo Smithelani, who's going to be at the Portland event with some of our friends this weekend. So as much love to Pete Q, just tuning in now and extremely hype for the election. Looking forward to your next book reviews. Thanks, man. It's actually texting me during the, uh, while we were doing this. I fucking rule. $10 super chat. Good show tonight.
Starting point is 01:56:24 Ohio folks get at us. To tell us, $10. To compensate for the long response. Christ is king. Awesome. $5.00 super chat from Yehaw Jensur. Salute. And last one before we move on.
Starting point is 01:56:44 King Shoshan. $5. The only river to the sea I care about is Virginia from the Ohio. to the Atlantic. Pity about Fairfax, though. Indeed. It is very much a pity that Fairfax County exists. All right. Let's move on to the next subject, which is, let's talk about Ukraine. And I might just want to throw this one over to Charlie, because I'm sure he's been all over this one. So it looks like, you want to talk about this? Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Sure, yeah. I was just going to say, we're two hours in, so we'll just be quick with it. but just a quick little Ukraine war updates and saw, you know, serious things might be happening in regard to the next administration coming in in less than a week, effectively. So it's worth understanding where we're at in the conflict. So here's like a map of territorial gains by each side over the last two years. So as you can see, and of course this is not including Kursk, as that is not the primary theater of operations.
Starting point is 01:57:51 and even if you do include that, it doesn't actually fully offset the Russian gains. But as you can see, the amount of physical territory Russia has been gaining in Ukraine is rising sharply as the Ukrainian military deteriorates both in its manpower capacity, artillery capacity, its electronic warfare capacity, all of that. And it will be interesting to see where this trend line goes over the winter. if it slows down, if it reverses a little bit. But the way things are going now, although this has mostly been a war of attrition, as you can see over the last year, Ukrainians basically are totally unable of mounting offenses at this point.
Starting point is 01:58:39 And the war has actually moved back into a phase of a war of movement, and Russian campaigns are now being conducted with multiple armies or army groups depending on what you want to call them, but they have groupings of brigades that are operating on a level where entire towns or cities are being now enveloped, double envelopments close to encircled in some cases,
Starting point is 01:59:08 and they capture these things intact. The Ukrainians just have to retreat. So we're getting to the point where looking at the territorial gains is starting to matter again. And to me, what it looks like what's happening is in the Dinesco Blas, in particular. Russia is probably trying to secure as much physical territory as they can before
Starting point is 01:59:27 Trump is inaugurated and negotiations start get really serious because I think the Russians want to establish a baseline of the four of west they annexed. And I expect we're going to see in the winter when it's harder for the Ukrainians to move. They're going to get absolutely bombed the hell by the Russian Air Force and their fab glided bombs. And that could really tip the scales because if the Russians are able to significantly a trit Ukrainians in the winter or even just keep moving at this pace, once the campaign season returns in 2025, it's definitely going to be over. The Ukrainians are talking about having to defend the Nipro Oblast now.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Here we're looking at Southern Donetsk, and after the fall of Abad Dievka, you can see the front lines start moving again. And as this clip moves forward, you will see the pace starts quickening. And towards the very end of this Giaf, it goes really fast, especially in the south. And it's actually continuing at that rate. So basically, we're in a new phase of the war, and we may be reaching the end phase. there's a good chance we'll see an end of the war in 2025 for one reason or another after Trump is inaugurated. So that's really the only thing I wanted to say here. It's certainly interesting from a military perspective seeing the stalemate broken and movement happening again,
Starting point is 02:01:05 the likes of which, as that graph showed, the Russians have not gained this much territory since July 2022 when the war was still in its early stages and the lines had not solidified yet.
Starting point is 02:01:19 So that's it. Yeah, this is a war that Russia could have this could have been over very early if they had taken this kind of
Starting point is 02:01:32 taking this kind of attack. But some of the telegrams channels that I follow or just like every 10 minutes is Russia's taking this spot. Russia's taking this spot. Russia's taking this spot.
Starting point is 02:01:48 I think you're 100% right. They're getting as much as they can to have as much negotiating power as they can with this new, what I believe is going to be the new regime that's coming in. And as I said earlier, I actually think that they'll probably negotiate it even before inauguration day. So, yeah, it's just wild to see.
Starting point is 02:02:15 This is something that there was peace talk. There were peace talks on the table in April of 2022. This could have been ended, and this horrible, horrible occupation regime wanted this to keep going. And hopefully we'll get to the end of this very soon. Well, let's finish this up with, we've been gone close to two hours. Now, let's finish us up talking about bricks, because bricks is another part of this.
Starting point is 02:02:50 It seems that more and more countries are signing on to bricks. They're rolling out their new, what could possibly be their currency, which, that looks awful. But one of the things that just throw one of the things out there is that Russia and North Korea have signed a treaty to, basically like almost like a NATO kind of treaty where if someone attacks you will find it's it's a mutual defense treaty yeah this this is a massive L for the west because Trump was really normalizing relations with North Korea and now that path's basically been cut off because North Korea has a mutual defense treaty with Russia and like what is the point of this like what what what gain does Russia have from this I mean basically what
Starting point is 02:03:44 they're saying is they're they're cutting north korea off from being ever being um rejoined with south korea or color revolution or something like that they're saying you're you're this is our sphere you're staying out of it so it relates to bricks because there's there's a much more like this that treaty is very material right it's not it's not fantastimal or something so there's a the the lines for the basically globalist versus anti-globalist countries are being drawn ever more clearly in the sand. Now this picture here of Putin holding this proposed like Brick's banknote. It's just a design proposal. There's not even an agreement yet on whether any future BRIC's currency would be based on gold or some other means.
Starting point is 02:04:36 So it's just an idea that's out there. The fact that the idea is being floated is significant. And obviously, as has been pointed out, the BRICS countries combined do not have anywhere near the financial buying power of the American dollar. But that's also kind of beside the point because, yes, the United States has access to far more financial power than basically the rest of the world combined. But that only goes so far because some things just aren't for sale. It doesn't matter if the United States can amass more money and buying power than every other country in the world if all the other countries or a significant proportion of them have alliances set up so that they can get what they need without the Americans. And, you know, how much how much would it cost to purchase Russia from Putin or Syria from Assad? It's like at some point it doesn't matter how much money America has.
Starting point is 02:05:36 You can only buy things that are for sale, and not everything is actually for sale. So things like this are not people make the mistake of making a one-to-one comparison between a bricks currency and the dollar. And like, that's not the point. It's like they're not going to out-compete the dollar and out-spend us. The point is separating themselves from caring about dollars. because, you know, as we talked about earlier, they may have the money printer. America may have, you know, the vast majority of the world's paper money, but you can only buy things that are for sale.
Starting point is 02:06:16 And the guy on the screen right now is not for sale, not to the Americans. Yeah, and if anything, it's symbolic. It's saying we're not going to be under your thumb ever again. or come to the table. And I think that's one of the things that if you do have a Trump presidency and you do have someone like Elon Musk in there or Howard Lutnik, all these people who are surrounding him, they will, these are people who want to make money.
Starting point is 02:06:51 And trading, having trading, real trading partners, you know, not secondary trading partner is not, you know, you're below us in this relationship. would be something that we could possibly see. And to set something up like that, first of all, they're going to try to kill you if you do that. But if you can set something up like that, you are marking out the future.
Starting point is 02:07:20 And you're looking at more peace. And then you can deal with the real rogue states. And at that point, someone like Russia will help you deal with the, with the rogue states that you're dealing with because they deal with a lot. They deal with a lot of those states, and they support a lot of those states. But again, it comes down to this occupation regime that has taken over the West. And is their power diminishing? And I think that's probably the biggest question that we can ask at this time.
Starting point is 02:07:59 Yeah, I should also mention on a North Korea thing. There's been talk about North Korean troops being deployed in the war. It may be possible that North Korean troops are deployed in Kursk on Russian territory. The invasion of Kursk was declared a terror operation, which has allowed the Russian state to deploy police forces and things like that. And deploying North Korean forces within Russian borders, you know, internationally recognized Russian borders would not. violate any international laws, quote unquote. So it wouldn't cause any problems that they don't already exist. But importantly, one of the things I've hammered on throughout this whole war, and the Russian army in 2022, far less competent than they are now. You know, the main issue for the West and this war is the Russians now have almost three years of fifth generation warfare, combat experience, and have become quite competent at it under deploying new technology.
Starting point is 02:09:01 And the North Koreans getting any battle experience at all against a modern army is huge because that experience goes much further than training operations or theory can go. Getting live fire exercise like that is critical. So if North Korean troops are deployed in Kursk in any capacity, that's a huge benefit to that state. And it's also just worth commenting that, you know, there are these countries that are, that have pretty tight relationships with Russia now. Iran being another one of them. They have the missile technology. North Korea has the atomic technology.
Starting point is 02:09:41 It's not hard to see places where these sort of relationships could go, especially in relation to those power brokers that are losing their power. You talked about, Pete. In relation to the North Korean troops and Kursk, from everything I heard on Judge Napolitano this week, I can't remember if it was Mearsheimer, if it was Freeman, or if it was McGregor. They were saying that they were nowhere near Kirst. They were saying that they were in the far east part of the country.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Yes. So far, everything I've, all the evidence points to, they have not been deployed in Kursk. But it could be done and it, you know, should be totally fine in terms of its ramifications for, international relations. But yes, as far as I know, this has not happened, and it's entirely rumor. I would like to remind everybody that, you know, what Zach Frisbee said here in the chat, no Korean, and I will add, or Russian has ever called me a goy. I think if anybody else has anything on Ukraine, Russia, and this total debacle, two and a half year long
Starting point is 02:11:01 debacle. I think we're going to wrap it up. Anybody got anything? All right. Let's do it. Let's go around the horn. Charlie, what do you got? Yeah, so we should have the Sicario review coming out as a podcast tomorrow on our substack. That was pretty fun. So definitely, you know, if you've seen the movie, it was a, I think it's an enjoyable review. If you haven't seen the movie, I mean, it's a total must watch for our guys. So watch it tonight and then watch the review tomorrow. if you haven't seen it, but yeah, that's all I'll show for now. All right. Paul, what do you got? Well, I'm doing an interesting series on Golden Era Spain and the various surrounding threads of history that lead into Golden Era Spain on one Pete Cignonas' channel. So if you all are interested in hearing about that,
Starting point is 02:11:57 we just recorded an episode, I think, last night, or two nights ago. And that will be up soon. So keep continue watching that ongoing series. And once you're done watching the old glory club stuff, go watch everything Pete has to offer. That'll be coming out on Election Day. So look for that.
Starting point is 02:12:18 While you're waiting for the polls to come in, you can listen to an hour on some Golden Age Spain. And Michael, plug whatever you got. So my podcast is called, Coffee and a Mike, M-I-K-E. You can find that, coffee and a mic.com, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. I put two episodes up yesterday, one with EM Burlingame. Another one was a joint conversation with Dave Collum and James Howard Cuncelor.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Have had Pid on several times. Tomorrow I'm talking to Ann Vandersteel. And hopefully November, David Rogers Webb, Tom Lwango, probably back on, Matt Brack and Michael Yan. So I appreciate you guys inviting me to participate tonight. So thank you. I will say this about Mike, having someone like myself and having Dark Enlightenment on.
Starting point is 02:13:12 It's huge because he has an audience that we wouldn't normally be able to speak to. And just if you go down and look at he, it's a widespread of people that he talks to, probably some of the most diverse, one of the most diverse crowds of people he talks to, His podcast is you never know who you're going to get. And I think that's great because there's enough podcasts out there that are very niche and very concentrated in one area. And Michael's all over the place.
Starting point is 02:13:46 So definitely go over and check out coffee in a mic. And that's it for Pony Express Radio. We will see you next week. Take care.

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