The Pete Quiñones Show - 11/13/2025 - Old Glory Club Livestream - Americans First

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ...hehrie... ...their... ...their... ...their... ...their... Man, I will never, ever, ever get tired of that intro. Let me tell you. We are back, ladies and gentlemen, for another fantastic episode of Pony Express Radio.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Ryan, you are pulling double duty this week. So my hat is off to you, sir. But we'll get to that in a moment. We got Mr. Pete. Quignonez, trying to pronounce it better now, but, you know, I just failed. You always, dude, you always get it right. Oh, well, shame on me then. You must have been listening to Charlie.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yeah, when you guys do it Charlie, Tom Woods is like, ah, nope. So, well, there we go. Pete, you're back. How are you? Doing good, man. Don't go, let's do it. All right. And Ryan, welcome to Pony Express.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It's been a while since we. had you on here, but you saw the list of stories this week, and you just insisted that you get a spot on this panel tonight, because there's a couple economics ones that you really want to sink your teeth into, but we're glad to have you. How are you? I'm doing very well. Thank you for having me. Unless my memory is faulty and I'm forgetting something, I think the last time that I was on, at least the more popular facing show was the election light stream, but I might be forgetting something. It could be. I mean, it's been a year. Maybe you came on like one in between, but it certainly hasn't been many, that's for sure. But we're happy to
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Starting point is 00:04:18 the entire night show. And why don't we just start right at the top with these clips that we're going around with Trump doing a Fox News interview with none other than Laura Ingraham, who before this, I really didn't have like very strong opinions about her. I didn't really, you know, think much of her. She's just another like Bucks and Blant they have up at Fox News, you know, with a nice cross position right between her cleavage, like all the rest of them. But I got to tell you, she did a pretty good job on this one. I got to tell you, holding Donald Trump's feet to the fire on a couple of issues.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Let's listen in on this first one. are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands of foreign students in the United States. We have about 350,000 Chinese. One point during COVID, we were going to push to get them out, but that was pulled back. You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States. Why, sir, is that a pro-Maga position? When so many American kids want to go to school and there are places not for them, and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Sure. Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China. We always have China and other countries. We also have a massive system of colleges and universities. And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business. So what? Well, I think that's a big deal. Are they fans of the United States? Yeah, but you would have, as you know, historically black colleges and universities would all. all be out of business. You would have a system of colleges and universities. So we're dependent on China to keep our university system going? But I think it's good to have, I actually think it's good to have outside countries. Look, I want to be able to get along with the world.
Starting point is 00:06:07 They're not the French. They're the Chinese. They spy on us. They steal our intellectual property. Do you think the French are better? Yeah. Really? I don't know. I'll tell you, I'm not so sure. We've had a lot of problems with the French, where we get taxed very unfairly on our technology with, you know, they put 25% taxes on American products. Look, assuming everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am, but we take in trillions of dollars from students, you know, the students pay more than double when they come in from most foreign countries. I want to see our school system thrive, but at the same time I want to be, I know you and I disagree, we're never going to agree on it, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And it's not that I want them, but I view it as a business. We have millions and millions of people. Also, I want to get along with countries, if possible. You know, people are shocked. Remember, Hillary Clinton said, we'll be in a war. I stopped eight wars in the last nine months. I don't want to be in wars. If I am in a war, we're going to win the thing fast, and it'll be violent.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Speaking of us. I don't want to be in wars. But one thing, you don't want to cut half of the people, half of the students from all over the world that are coming into our country, destroy our entire university. and college system, I don't want to do that. I wouldn't lose anything. And don't forget, MAGA was my idea. MAGA was nobody else's idea.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else. And MAGA wants to see our country thrive. Well, so we let that clip play very long because, man, oh, man, did Trump just stick not one, but both feet in his mouth repeatedly in that entire clip? Just when you thought, like, oh, good quit by Laura Ingram coming back and holding him to the fire a bit. And then there you go. Trump is just setting stuff on fire once again. I kind of love how she just agreed and amplified every single time, which is what I
Starting point is 00:07:57 would have done if I was in this interview. She's like, I don't care. You know, let the universities burn. Is it like the French or better than the Chinese? Yeah, of course. I mean, we talked about this so much with Trump being an apparent and obvious boomer still and still being caught up in all of the left wing frames and the moral ground that we've been of railing against on this show since the very beginning and many other people like us have
Starting point is 00:08:22 it as well. But this was lied about like, oh, historically black colleges are going to go out of business or, you know, I think one of the things I really hate the most about this world that we're living in, and like obviously conservative ink is completely trapped in this, that we need to have this multi-ethnic coalition, you know, this everyone is an American, every group of people is like this. You even heard Trump say this about, oh, you think that Chinese are better than the French, which is just so obviously false on so many levels. It's hard to even pick a specific spot. But let us not forget, I mean, the French are America's oldest ally, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:58 They've been allies with us since the Revolutionary War, okay? Why is it that we are just going to throw away other like European and Western and other white countries allies and throw it to the side for some other like multiracial, multi-ethnic coalition here? It's like, who fucking cares about the Chinese? The French have been our allies for 250 years. It's a business. You heard him say it there.
Starting point is 00:09:25 He looks at the country as like a business. That's not how we look at it. You know, he, every once in a while, he'll pay lip service to the fact that, oh, America is for Americans. But when you look at it as a business, when you have this globe, if you want to have a globalized economy, people are just another commodity. This is what I've been trying to say ever since I stepped out of the libertarian milieu. It's globalism, man.
Starting point is 00:10:01 The free market is globalism. And that, what is your, if you own a business, most businesses, what is your biggest, what's your biggest expense? Labor. You want the cheapest labor from where you can get it anywhere. and that is how most anybody who's coming from the conservative movement or who's been who's bought into you know this neoliberal framing it's all business man you know that's how
Starting point is 00:10:34 china is more important than france right now because without china well i mean can we even make weapons without china i mean he's not he he's being hyperbolic about that the French. But he's not lying about China. I mean, we're not a sovereign nation because we can't even make our own weapons. We can't have our own defense industry has to come from somewhere else at this point. Parts have to come from somewhere else. I mean, it's bad enough to talk about the actual raw materials to create our own products, our own weapons. But you take it one step further in this where they're making implication about why we have to have these 600 Chinese students over here is that oh well uh americans just aren't capable of developing these kinds of
Starting point is 00:11:23 technology anymore we have to import all of these people so it's like not only do we not have the raw materials but we don't even have the intellectual capital to to build anything right and this is really a fascinating admission uh because uh you know the the other side goes along with us every time it's advocated if you look at the uh the reason why the United States has a university system, especially the public universities and the land grants. The whole idea was this was that Americans can be educated to a point where they can be productive and that this investment in education would pay itself off, strengthen the country, provide a moral framework and whatever else. Well, we've clearly lost the last one. No one expects the universities
Starting point is 00:12:05 to provide a clear and good moral framework. That's a very antiquated notion. But we're also apparently dispensing with this very 60s liberal idea as well that you can just create an educated and productive population like that's that's what's being amended here sort of on the meta level which which I find fascinating it's unquestionable because of course and it's applied wrongly for reasons that are about to become clear if you don't think that you can just educate a population into productivity and brilliance what's the alternative like they're just fixed and why are they fixed so it's a very strange admission to where we've moved past this weird 60s paradigm that we have the longest but yeah this very
Starting point is 00:12:55 idiotic idea of viewing this as an enterprise or a business is completely destroying the country and it's not good for anyone either so not just from Trump's perspective is this bad because this base is going to be revolting against him over it, which it currently is. I've not seen any lower support for Trump, basically since he was elected previously as well. But it's bad for the university systems. The university systems continue to admit more and more students, and they can't handle it. It's long since been a place where it was just accepted. You're not going to get an education.
Starting point is 00:13:32 This is just a requirement. It's also not good for actually doing the purpose of the universities. We plainly said now that universities are not meant to elevate Americans. They're supposed to just provide a degree for Chinese people, I guess. The whole thing is a cluster, quite frankly. It's really sad when Curtis Yarvin understands the university system more than Donald Trump does, where he's like, we need tanks on Harvard Yard. And Donald Trump's like, oh, we got to save it.
Starting point is 00:14:06 You know, and they come in here and they pay double. And I mean, I've talked about this before. When I lived in Auburn, like literally my whole street was Chinese. All of my neighbors were Chinese. They were all students at the university. The Baptist church I went to down there. When they wanted to go to a different, when they wanted to move locations, they sold the church to their Chinese
Starting point is 00:14:34 Bible study that was meeting there and I said no you're not selling it to the Chinese Bible study you're China congratulations no one gets this no I mean even this fucker I think the thing that hurts me
Starting point is 00:14:52 the most in this entire clip is the one that was right at the end when Trump said Maga didn't exist before me I know what Maga wants more than anybody and it's like, well, we just have the admission right now from Donald Trump, what he thinks MAGA is, an open contradiction to what he was saying in 2016 when he was talking about getting rid of the whole H-1B system even to begin with. People could go find his tweets about this. But to him, it's just like, I want to see America thrive, and MAGA means see Americans thrive,
Starting point is 00:15:24 which is literally just GDP, that's it. Now, Americans thriving. It's just America the place. You know, in a very sad thing, well, a sad irony kind of is, you know, like the actual like con ink boomers actually kind of 100% correct when they say like Trump doesn't have a racist bone in his body. I genuinely believe that. And it kind of sucks because even if you just had just a little bit, a little bit of in-group
Starting point is 00:15:50 reference, there's so many of these issues we just wouldn't be tackling with, no. Or maybe it's just a completely like, uh, uh, uh, I don't know, it's a conditioned like a Pavlov's dog by just like the media attacks of all the years, just calling him like, you know, Hitler and racist man 101. He's like, God, I'm just going to make sure I'm so not racist. It's unbelievable. I got to defend the historically black colleges, you know, that, that extreme, you know, home battleground for avid Trump supporters, those historically bad black colleges.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Once upon a time, the American right-wing president understood and knew that. that the professors were the enemy. And not only did he understand that, but he would tell it to the people around them, or around him. I'm trying to, Trump obviously knew Nixon, was, he probably remembers most of that.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I would be dumbfounded if the people around him aren't telling him that the university system is almost universally aligned against him. Like, is it really just that he has such a strong will to see the, like, college profits go up? This is almost unthinkable that he would come out and say this. I don't understand what happened before this. I think the number one issue that Trump has on the domestic front that he sees is just the national debt stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And the economy is like, well, the only way you can fix this is by generating money. This is where like the gold card, you know, visa immigration stuff came from where he was just selling U.S. citizenship for 10 million bucks. You know, people are like, oh, if you want to fork up so much. money you can become a United States citizen you know it's the same thing with like the tariff stuff you know what's to reshor make some money here same thing with the colleges like oh we can make some money here we'll do that you know offshore drilling oh no same thing there too so just very consistent it's like we yeah we do need um well here's the thing from our producer already in a second it's like yeah
Starting point is 00:17:53 obviously the United States needs to make money and obviously we have to deal with our debt problem and the economy isn't the shitter and people need good jobs and stuff like this but it's like we can be selective here on on what we're doing so it's just not going to help anyway here's a quote from richard nixon are we supposed to pretend that the universities are like good uh economically either like it's you just gave a very excellent explanation uh for most of trump's other actions but like like if it just from all perspectives that could ever be around Trump except for just like an
Starting point is 00:18:32 actual subversive like working for another side. Like it seems like you would want the university system to be purged, go out of business, you'd have to stop paying for it, say on the state level. Like this is a, it's a dumb founding that he would, that he would take this position.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, I think we're all in agreement there. From Richard Nixon on December 14th, 1972, the press is the enemy. The press is the enemy, the press is the enemy, the establishment is the enemy, the professors are the enemy, professors are the enemy. Write that on the blackboard
Starting point is 00:19:06 100 times and never forget it. Man, no true words were ever spoken, and they cooed him for it. So, well, the clips of the Laura Ingram interview, don't stop there, ladies and gentlemen. We've got another one.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Let's listen in. Republicans have to talk about it. And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration? Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. But you also do have to bring in talent.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Well, we have plenty of talented people here. No, you don't. We don't have talented people here. No, you don't have certain talents, and people have to learn. You can't take people off an unemployment line and say, I'm going to put you into a factory who are going to make missiles. How did we ever do it before when you and I were growing up?
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'll give you an example in Georgia. They raided because they wanted illegal immigrants out. They had people from South Korea that made batteries all their lives. You know, making batteries are very complicated. It's not an easy thing. It's very dangerous, a lot of explosions, a lot of problems. They had like five or six hundred people. early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Well, they wanted them to get out of the country. You're going to need that, Laura. I mean, I know you and I disagree on this. You can't just say a country's coming in, going to invest $10 billion to build a plant and get to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years, and they're going to start making missiles.
Starting point is 00:20:45 It doesn't work that way. I recommend you stop being such a faggin. Now, I was talking about this before we went live, but I just love how the bottom left-hand corner, the Fox News logo, has been changed to the military camo because it was Veterans Day when they were covering this and just the subject of what they're talking about in this clip, right? It's like, oh, well, you know, everyone could just be, you know, it's Veterans Day, right? You know, we're here to celebrate an American holiday, but we're talking about it in the clip where, well, anyone could just become an American. And if you have a fake degree from some, you know, Chinese sweatshop or some Indian, you know, degree farm, no, doesn't matter. You guys can come on over here. I'm sure that there is some extreme Indian genius underneath the mountains of shit and the piles of trash so high they have to put air traffic control beacons on top of them so planes don't drive into them.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I am sure there is some Star Trek replicator level technology that's hidden under all that trash. And it can only be found if we just import all the Indians over here. God, this is so frustrating. You know, something, go ahead, Ryan. I was just going to say, imagine if there was like a system or a means to teach Americans how to do these complex things. I don't know what that would be called, but like that, that'd be cool. But then again, maybe we should just, like, throw a bunch of Chinese students at it instead. This is something that, you know, not me, not Utah.
Starting point is 00:22:21 talks about all the time just the white man can basically learn anything in a month as long as it's not like insanely outrageously advanced you know throw him in he'll he'll figure out how to do it and trump is i mean i assume he's just surrounded by jeets who are telling him no we got to bring these people in and you know or or china you know frame the chinese spies that have surrounded so many of our politicians and oh no these people they come right in you plug them right in now first of all we know you don't plug jeets in because there's diploma mills over there and these they don't know how to do jack shit they basically you know look up online or go into chats to try to figure out i mean that's like basically how they quote unquote code they know how to throw
Starting point is 00:23:16 Well, yeah. And, you know, so you bring some Chinese people. I mean, somebody's just convinced him that, you know, oh, you know, white Americans can't do this shit. So if he's not sticking up for us, we'll get, well, who? What? I love the pushback that Ingram had on this one, too. And it's just, yeah, very simple argument that anyone, it's so easy even a cave band could make this argument, right? It's like, well, then how did we do it when we were kids? You know, it's like these two people right here are in their late 60s, 70s, in this case, with Donald Trump. And, yeah, you guys grew up in an age where America was putting people on the moon, you know, for the first time ever. And it was all done with Americans and the help of some Germans. Oh, it's like, I don't think we need to import a bunch of Chinese and Indians to do that. I know the other thing that's just so chef's kiss about this is literally what we're having this conversation this week about importing all the Indians and all the Chinese. Did you guys see how one of the largest bridges in China just collapsed this week?
Starting point is 00:24:19 This thing is like... I saw... Yeah, this thing is just giant. It's like stretching between two valleys. It's like the Golden Gate Bridge level size. And the thing just collapses. It's like, oh, really? And not just that.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Like, I saw like three other videos allegedly collapsing from China this week, which isn't surprising whatsoever. Something that I would like to get your guys' thoughts on because I, this clip in particular vexed me. ever since I came across it whenever the controversy was happening. It was infuriating. And I can't help but connect it back to Trump throwing his full weight behind Vivek in Ohio. As Vivek gets outflanked by the Democratic candidate on the subject of immigration, at least rhetorically. Oh, that was so amazing. I mean, it really just shows to show you, number one, how just absolutely cold and cutthroat in calculating the left is every turn.
Starting point is 00:25:12 and they just have no principles whatsoever. They do not care. There'll be for immigration one moment, but when they want to flank Vivek on something that they obviously know that the Republican base is divided on, they're going to flake him from the right and say, how dare you speak so poorly about Americans? They literally went back to the Great Christmas H-1B debate last year,
Starting point is 00:25:34 tweet. The tweet that's almost a year old now. The canon went and found it. Oh, my God. I hope, I really, really hope. that she wins I hope I really hope that she wins that election like is this is this just like Trump or people around Trump causing him to purge purge his movement of anyone that isn't in the Bebeck camp regarding immigration like is that what's
Starting point is 00:25:59 happening it's a it's hard to tell from the outside but I'm just one person if you guys have thoughts I don't know I mean I think I think because Donald Trump kind of just passes out endorsements like candy to literally everybody. I mean, how many times have he endorsed people like Lindsey Graham or even worse politicians who like have thrown Trump onto their bus multiple times, but he just throws it out there. To tell you the truth, I don't really think Trump even thinks about Vivek that much or many of these races, to be honest. I think he just throws it out there and says, oh, this guy's really great and in hopes that
Starting point is 00:26:37 it would just win or it would help the polls in that certain state. So I don't know if he's going to think that much about it. What I will say in general, though, is we were actually talking about this on Mr. D's Twitter space the other night. In the two months since Charlie Kirk's assassination, it has just become so obvious at this point that it was a huge blunder on all the Republicans part, 100 percent, Donald Trump included everybody. They dropped that thing like a lead balloon, did absolutely nothing as one of their top
Starting point is 00:27:06 supporters and political activists was just shot in the face in front of his wife and two kids and it shows something even deeper that somebody who clearly had the president's ear and had his ear to the ground so to speak of the issues that the younger part of the base were really really fired up about and cared about it just seems that that like you know a way to get into the white house was died with charlie kirk and it's a huge problem I guess like the next closest person would be J.D. Vance who has been counter signaling Trump a little bit on these topics this week, but I mean, the loss of Charlie Kirk is, it's particularly bad. It's really, really bad. Well, I mean, there's, I've heard people make the claim that Charlie may be the only one who is, is even pushing back on our greatest ally with him. You know, we know he was pushing back on the bombing and, you know, everything he was coming to.
Starting point is 00:28:15 But who does Trump have around him? They could possibly be doing this. They could possibly be saying, no, no, they don't get the way. They don't get their way anymore. Or, you know, you have to, you have to ration out your, you have to ration out what you give to them. When I looked at Trump for this term, my thought was. he's going to be as friendly to Israel as he wasn't the first and I mean I'm willing to put up with that just for every
Starting point is 00:28:49 for the possibility that everything else would get done I mean I just didn't know that he was going to be full on knees dirty as as he's been and it doesn't seem like there is anybody there to to push back on it I wrote a very optimistic article almost immediately after the election. It's still on the OGC substack. And I remember, and it's still there in writing,
Starting point is 00:29:19 I had cautious optimism just because I was hoping that sort of the coalition nature of his election, which seems to have just completely disappeared, it was very clear in the election and up to the point that he was elected, but there were very explicit coalitions being built,
Starting point is 00:29:36 and I was sort of hoping that would temper for some of the dumber actions that he took in his first term. And I just, that hasn't come to pass. I think the optimism was entirely misplaced on my part. Oh, I mean, there's really nothing you could say that, you can't beat yourself off for having optimism going into the administration, right? No, that's, that's something that, that's something that people who are terminally online are. It's like the people who go, you know, you supported Trump and I supported
Starting point is 00:30:14 Trump because you supported Trump. Now you have to apologize. What are you? What are you my, what are you my wife? Go fuck yourself, you little faggot. What's wrong with you? To be clear, I'm not apologizing for it or anything. It just like just in retrospect, looking at what I was hoping would happen. It just has not happened whatsoever. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think we can all say that the last six months have not been great. And the last two months in particular have been nothing short of just unmitigated disaster. It's been very, very bad for the last couple months, especially after Charlie's death. Now, what we'll say this as well is at the top of this, I myself have more or less checked out of a lot of the stuff that's going on in the Trump administration. I was gone. I was out of the
Starting point is 00:31:05 country for three weeks recently, as people know, and I had a lot of time to just kind of relax and not really, you know, be tuned into everything. I recommend this for a lot of people that every now and then you just need to unplug. So this stuff just doesn't like literally eat your brain. So it's always nice to have some R&R for people. But I have no doubt that over the next like two and a half, three years, how much time we have left, that there are going to be some things that Donald Trump does that I like okay I've no doubt about that that it'll happen you know whatever that is going to be remains to be seen I also know there are a lot of things I'm not going to like they're going to happen but what I absolutely refuse to do at this point
Starting point is 00:31:48 in the game is to be you know quote unquote like trusting the plan and you know like pulling cover for all the stupid things that Trump is doing like particularly of what's going on in this interview you know like what some people are saying like oh well Trump is got bad advisors around him. It's like, guys, the buck has to stop with somebody, okay? Like, this is just ridiculous. I mean, he's the politician. He's the guy that goes on all of the, you know, news media and everything like this. He's the guy who wants to be in the spotlight. He's the guy who wanted to come back the second time. The buck's got to stop with somebody, okay? I'm not doing this kind of stuff anymore for another three years. Or we're like, oh, well,
Starting point is 00:32:27 you know, if we just say it this way and if we pull cover in this way and, you know, if I say things in this particular time and place, things are going to get better, and we're going to get the voices up the chain of command stuff. It's like, just stop, stop with all this stuff, okay? You need to take a break. Yeah, the, the truesters are just maniacal at this point. I mean, if you're, if somebody's,
Starting point is 00:32:53 I mean, and you could see that on Twitter. I mean, the, the frigging plan trusters, it's see it every day. They're turning on them. They're turning on them. him yeah and it's i mean it's hard not to i mean when you he's we played a video where he literally was friggin defending academia in this country like saying oh yeah yeah you know we want them to succeed i want them to all burn
Starting point is 00:33:26 it's like literally public enemy number one you know right up there at the top You know, it's like, what did, Thomas Sol said once, he said, every bad thing that happened in the 20th century was devised by a man from Harvard. Why the fuck do I, why the fuck do I want to see Harvard in anything but ashes? I mean, we're going to carry on here some more very disappointing things. I mean, again, like I'm saying, this week has been the absolute worst week for the Trump administration since all the Iran stuff easily. This one has just been one stepping on a rake and hitting yourself in the face with that three stooges style after another this week, man. We're going to get to a couple more of those in a minute here.
Starting point is 00:34:19 But I just like to stress once again about like this plan trusting stuff and everything. It's like, dude, if your life is that 100% consumed with Donald Trump being right and everything, else going to be like the magic bullet theory that fixes everything for us it's like that that is it's like the same people who are obsessed about like the the jays all the time on any issue thinking they're hiding behind every single rock and every tree okay you can't let don't trump completely control your life you can't let the jays completely control your life you can't let race completely control your life okay you guys got to go out and actually do some stuff in the real world and you really just can't be obsessed with all the little uh details in my new show of
Starting point is 00:35:01 things. There's going to be things we like. There's going to be things we dislike. There's going to be times where we should go chimping. There's going to be times where we should be praising. People just need to have some very leveled heads about this stuff. And quite frankly, we need to start looking to the future. Okay. Trump is only going to be here for another three years. And I don't know about you guys, but I plan to be here for a very, very long time after these three years, not just in this whole space, but just in my life in general, right? My life is going to go on after Donald Trump is gone. And we need to start thinking about the future.
Starting point is 00:35:33 You know, we're talking about America first, the movement. Well, it needs to get changed into Americans first. We talked about this right at the start. Maybe that's somebody like J.D. Vance. Obviously, he's been lined up as the next successor to Trump. He's been saying some things that we do like this week. We'll see what happens. We've got the midterms coming up next year.
Starting point is 00:35:53 It's going to be an absolute bloodbath unless the Trump administration gets their head out of their ass and starts actually focusing on domestic issues that people actually give a shit about. TB 88 here in the chat makes a really good point. He says, the only foreign students at this point that Trump doesn't want are the anti-Semitic ones. Yeah. Very true. I mean, the people have been kicked out of the country, like student, visiting students have
Starting point is 00:36:21 been kicked out of the country for anti-Semitism, not open hostility to white people. Who's in charge? who's in charge of the country? Indeed. Well, just think about the list of stories right here. And it's like, man, oh, man, which next horrible thing do we want to turn our attention to next, guys? Yeah, you know, well, since we're talking about the midterms for next year, we have to talk about domestic issues.
Starting point is 00:36:57 One of the things that is the most important issue for everybody on the domestic front is the extreme spike and high cost of living as it relates to purchasing and buying homes in the United States. This has been something we've been talking about for months and months and months on this show. There's many people in the audience, many people in the OGC broader network in general who are struggling to buy their first homes, of course. So what do we have is the great shining solution from the Trump administration this week? And I just couldn't believe this. When I saw this on President Trump's true social, I just, I could not believe this is a thing. It's like, this might be the most boomer tweet ever made. It's, it's certainly up there.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Great American presidents, the 30-year mortgage by President FDR. And now we've got the announcement from the Trump administration, the 50-year mortgage. I'm sorry. That is literally, that's the most Jewish thing I've ever heard, my know. I was just about to say P. It's like we're reaching levels of usury, not foreseen. I've never thought possible before. 50 years.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Like you don't want to spend half a century, like with a financial instrument barely, maybe getting to have a home? That doesn't sound appealing. It takes the other. It's 20 million deportations. Best I can do is add 20 years to your mortgage. I mean, do you know what's even more crazy about this?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Okay. It's like to, you know, to the casual observer, right, you might be thinking, oh, okay,
Starting point is 00:38:37 you know, maybe a 50 year mortgage, right, might be something reasonable for, you know, a giant ass mansion or something like Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:38:43 lives in or something like this, you know, or maybe some commercial real estate or something, something that you're going to be paying, you know, tens of millions of dollars for or even more. You know, yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:52 you know, why don't we put that out of a 50 year mortgage might make sense. No, we're literally talking, talking about 50-year mortgages for two-bedroom homes. What is this bullshit? What are we even talking about here?
Starting point is 00:39:07 It's like, oh, yeah, you know, the family of three that are in their early 30s who are just trying to get up that ladder so they can actually have a good American life. Like people always said, you know, you love how these boomers always talk about, oh, I want to have my kids grow up so they can have it better than what I had it, right? here we go the 50 year mortgage which I saw people defending this too which I just absolutely couldn't believe you saw people defending it oh yeah oh yeah we were talking about no plan truesters oh yeah oh yeah
Starting point is 00:39:41 I couldn't believe that I specifically tried to follow this and I couldn't find people defending it there were plan trusters defending oh yeah well what's even crazier is that there were some people So here's some red hawk lore for people. Okay. So I actually worked as a mortgage underwriter for a couple of years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:02 So I know quite a bit about this industry, right? There are actually people out there who don't, who we're trying to defend this number one. And number two, don't even know that you could do like not even five seconds of math on this one to just show how absolutely ludicrous this is. People can do this right now. All right. Here's a tip for everybody. You can go Google right now, an amortization schedule. for your mortgage, okay?
Starting point is 00:40:25 It'll take you five seconds to do and you plug in your numbers and the difference between a 30 year and a 50 year mortgage. People think like, oh, yeah, your monthly payment is going to be down a little bit. Well, guess what? You're not going to be banking pretty much any payments down on the actual principle of that loan for the first 10 to 15 years of that. So you're literally going to save a grand total of like $2,000. Like, that's it over like the course of like a 50 year mortgage over the 30.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Like this is just, oh, my God. I said that today. like the first year the first 12 payments a dollar each payment is going to go towards another an interesting thing about this as well the at least according to the the federal reserve is that like as the time of the of the mortgage increases the so does the uh the rate as well so not only is it going to be a 50 year mortgage but if like the pattern holds it's also going to have a higher rate attached to it as well, which, I mean, I don't know, it sounds Levantine to me, this scheme. So, something, that's a good way of putting it.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So something, I really wanted to talk about this slightly more in depth. I know this is not like the, the ultra in-depth stream, but it was a, I'll be brief. there's a lot of people that correctly pointed out that if you deported the people that should not be here obviously the demand for housing goes down as so does the price that's a very basic inference everyone's correct on that there's other other reasons to do that as well regardless of just this uh housing and economic thing um but this is a something that i really wanted to hammer uh is that this is not like that's not just going to fix the thing, because the way that the current system is working, mostly put into place by boomers and the people that came just right before them, if I remember correctly, is that even if we
Starting point is 00:42:26 had a perfectly homogenous country, only of Americans, only the people that should be here, if the population continues to increase, like we all have our prosperous families, they have children, and it keeps going, the population grows, we're bountiful, the current. The current system is ordered in such a way that like the house price is supposed to continue towards infinity because that's what the boomers want their uh uh want on their balance sheets uh that's that's a great way for them to have wealth the uh the price of their property continues to increase that's their savings or any anything else that they would ever need uh this is not how it is actually supposed to be uh if if you saw in any other market that the price just keeps continuing to
Starting point is 00:43:12 infinity regardless really of like what the population is doing this has been a trend for a long time now and it's embodied in the meme that everyone shares where it's like the boomers got their houses for ten thousand dollars or something obscene if you saw any other market the price just continues to trend towards infinity you would think something is terribly wrong there and you would be correct in your assumption so it's not necessarily just that we need to deport millions of people even though that needs to happen and it would help. Like the whole thing needs to fundamentally come down and reform just because even if we got everything we wanted save for fixing the policies around housing and say money printing, we're just
Starting point is 00:43:56 kicking the can down our road to our own children, which is a, I find that at least to be objectionable. Your name is, yeah, thy name is boomer, Ryan. So check this, check this out. I had a mutual on Twitter send me this today. He said, I was researching the percentage of investor-owned properties in my neighborhood and adjacent joining subdivisions as well. I was looking at a relatively new development, 2021 to present, a mile down the road, and the data is borderline shocking.
Starting point is 00:44:27 There are 463 homes in this development, which was built in several phases. The initial phase was larger, multi-story homes. The owner's names were 40% of Indian origin. which seems like a lot, but this development is across a street from a tech hub campus with 4,000 employees. So I could see it being a relative outlier
Starting point is 00:44:50 versus population locally. It's an average-sized city, which is 4% Asian. This was the case for the first two phases, 40-60 split, then it flipped to 60-40 for two phases, then 80-20, 80-20, 90-10, overall, across 460 homes,
Starting point is 00:45:09 61% are owners with Indian names. All these homes were built during the rate hike cycle, and I was just baffled that anyone could afford them, especially the latter phases, which are 3-2, 2,000 square feet homes, almost row homes, even though they are physically separated by a few feet. Was this just some kind of fraud mill property scheme? Just unbelievable. Even these smaller homes were going for 350 to 400. To top it off, it's basically a ghost town.
Starting point is 00:45:35 They added almost 500 homes at this one intersection, and there's been no. noticeable uptick in traffic or people walking the neighborhood or cars on the street i'm dubious anyone actually lives there to be honest you see this stuff on twitter and think it's probably not that pervasive and then bang it's right down the street from you wild i mean just so it shows you how much of our economy it's just a hundred percent fake it's just so crazy it's like yeah the the the solution here number one like thinking like oh yeah we're just going to have infinity growth like ryan was talking about for a 50-year mortgage just like in any other time in history people would not view you know the
Starting point is 00:46:20 house as your main asset of how you're just going to make it big in the world just because like the price just gets inflated into oblivion well you know post 1973 you know 1973 you go off the gold standard and i just did an episode today where i was talking about how in 1973 the average price of existing home was 29,800. Now the average price of existing home is 432,000. That's basically a 15 times increase, but the median income has only increased five times. And then you look back in 1973 and you're like, well, that's, and only one parent was working at the time. Well, we'll see Pete, you're just lazy.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah. That's the solution here. No. I'm just lazy. I'm just lazy. I expect to get stuff for free. Just like Ben Shapiro said on the Trigonometry Podcast, you get stuff, you know, you're lazy. If you have a problem, get on a train and go somewhere else. Oh, yeah. But when Israel needs money, you stupid motherfucker, then you better shut the fuck up and give it to them or else you're anti-Semitic. This is a, I mean, do you realize we are just, I mean, this is an occupied country.
Starting point is 00:47:37 where people can get up people will literally get up there and call you and say you're a socialist if you want something for free how dare you want to live where your ancestors live where your ancestors are buried oh but i've got you know i don't even live in this country over here but motherfucker when that country needs money you better fucking dish it out or else you're an anti-semit what a piece of shit that motherfucker is all of them all i mean not every friggin one of them but all the you know the ones who talk like this and they just, you know, the Mark Levens of the world, these people, we don't have a country as long as they're here, as long as they have power, as long as they have influence. It's just so, it's so maddening because not just with these subversive characters like you're talking about, Pete, but the kinds of people that should be helping the youth, you know, I forget who said this, but it's a fantastic quote. It's like, the old should only ever exist to help about the young and it's like yeah it just gets right to the meat of it right there it's like that's history before basically countries became financialized as soon as countries
Starting point is 00:48:48 became financialized hey son you're on your own fuck you i'm going on a cruise it's just so frustrating and such a joke especially as you know a millennial who's uh trying to get into the uh housing market you know it's just there it's the same thing that so many of us have talked to every single person in the chat if you're around our age can talk about this and you know so many people were just like this that they were just maybe one or two years away from getting in on the market and then it went away from them again and they cripped up again it's like oh maybe two more years i could do it's like nope it's just just constantly like the rug is being pulled out from under you just to even get a start man just to
Starting point is 00:49:28 get a start and then the other people who are allegedly on our side in this movement uh conservatives the right wingers or something they just have it wrapped up in their egos so much that they were just some financial wizard and financial genius and they worked super hard and it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they got in when labor was expensive and land was cheap you know it's just got to be and the country and the country was white yeah exactly it just has to be that the millennials and the zoomers are just unique in all of human history as being the laziest people who have ever set foot on the entire planet it's like i'm sorry but the new statistics just came out two weeks ago okay five percent of americans age 30 are married and living a home it's like that is not
Starting point is 00:50:17 systemic like laziness amongst people that's just not despite those apparent laziness epidemic somehow like labor productivity continues to skyrocket every year it's a fascinating well it's all those people we keep importing ryan they're going to work those jobs and americans won't. Right. Yeah. That's what the statistics bear out on things like security and welfare and all of that. It's something that I would really like to emphasize here, really very intimately linked to this anti-boomer sentiment, which is entirely justified. If you are a heritage American, you don't have anywhere else to go once the country has been looted, burned, and whatever else. Like, you are here.
Starting point is 00:51:04 If you genuinely are a heritage American, you believe in it, like I'm sure many of us do, especially those in the OGC itself. You can't tolerate not only just, like, getting your thing right now while the rest of the country burns around you. It would be like telling an Englishman that, like, you'll be happy with a with this small pittance, the equivalent of a 50-year mortgage, while the entire country gets destroyed, salted and burned around you, bought up by outsiders and whatever else.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I feel like many people, even those somewhat close to us, have not internalized that we aren't an economic zone. We can't just flee if, say, the boomers loot the country to death, die off and then leave us with the ashes. We can't just go somewhere else. It's not how it works. tied here. It's so true, Ryan.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I mean, the thing that just is just a never-ending source of woe for me when dealing with these people is, again, it's that same thing that everyone internalizes that I want my kids to have it better than I did. It's like, okay, prove it. Just prove it. And don't try and fight the youth on every single issue, you know, when they're talking about the troubles that they're facing in this economy and this. market. It's like just, just, you know, I don't think that Heritage Americans are just
Starting point is 00:52:35 sitting on the couch and asking for a handout here. They're not. What they want is a country that actually works for them, a system that should work as everybody else on the entire planet has a country that works for them and for their people. And ours just doesn't. That's not like sitting on your couch and acting entitled and, you know, being super lazy and being ungrateful. or something like that. It's just we just want what is actually ours. It was given. No,
Starting point is 00:53:04 no organism can be healthy when parasite, when it's riddled with parasites. All of your, all of your nourishment, all of your wealth, everything has been taken from you. I mean, that's just it.
Starting point is 00:53:21 We, people come here and they use this, you know, like, you know, like they, you know, how some people have gone to other, you know, other nations to work or like, you know, we have military contractors that go overseas and some of them actually end up doing Merck work in, in Africa and everything. And they basically get paid by some warlord there to make sure that the frigging water keeps, you know, the water keeps coming out of the faucets. And then they come back here.
Starting point is 00:53:54 we have a whole country full of millions of people who are doing that right now not only that we have representatives of another nation who basically if our if they couldn't rape our economy rape our tax system and rape you get all these government get the government to set they wouldn't exist they wouldn't or they'd have to figure something else out they'd have to use that famous high IQ to figure out how to do it themselves but it seems the only thing that they can use that famous high IQ for is to rape us and in many cases like Jeffrey Epstein literally raping our kids Shall we talk about the next grand idea from the Trump team to help the struggling youth with their financial woes?
Starting point is 00:55:02 Ryan, I knew you were jumping at the bit to get a hold of this story. So why don't we talk about the $2,000 stimmy checks that are about to come our way from the tariffs? First of all, I'll believe it when I see it, number one, on this one. Before I read this, the other thing I will say, just at the very start, of it is like we talk about all the time about how we actually need some client patronage networks going on here on the right. I mean, this is honestly just like what the Democrats do. So it'd be one thing if you were to say that, oh, this is just purely for Machiavellian voting purposes that, you know, I'm literally just going to pay people off to vote for me. Okay,
Starting point is 00:55:43 that'd be one thing. But, you know, playing this off as, you know, oh, this is how Americans are going to get rich and how we're going to profit off of the tariffs and everything like this is by giving everybody who makes less than 100 grand a year $2,000. I'm very, very skeptical. But let me read this truth social post here. And then, Ryan, I will unleash you
Starting point is 00:56:04 like the dogs of war on this one, because I know you're going to have quite a bit to say. From President Donald J. Trump's true social account, people are against tariff. People that are against tariffs are fools. We are now the richest, most respected country in the world. Yeah, respected my ass, with almost no
Starting point is 00:56:22 inflation uh-huh and a record stock market price fuck you nobody uh the youth can't even afford stocks to begin with 401 caves are the highest ever fuck boomers um we are taking in trillions of dollars and will soon begin paying down our enormous debt is 37 trillion dollars record investment in the USA plants and factories going up all over the place a dividend of at least two thousand dollars a person, not including high income people, will be paid to everyone. Ryan, this sounds like a great idea, doesn't it? You know, come on, just giving people some money right into their pockets. Surely, the American people are just going to invest this in high-yield savings accounts
Starting point is 00:57:03 and maybe get in on that stock market that has had an all-time high. Yeah, I mean, like, we all feel this, right? We're the richest, most respected country right now. I'm sure everyone here on the panel feels that way currently. I mean, I know I do, you know, wanting to buy a house before I turn 50. Like, I'm really feeling the greatest economic administration of my life right now. But every single person complains about rising prices. And there's underlying reasons for that, but we don't really need to go into it.
Starting point is 00:57:36 What happens if you just give every single person in the country $2,000, minus a tiny minority above the cutoff? well oh oh oh i'm raising my hand ryan buying a lot of air jordan's i i bet that's probably going to be a lot of it that's a and and just if you'll if you'll indulge me just ever so slightly in the economic part here we get this money out of thin air we don't just have this money because we decided we were going to save more consume less produce more or anything like that we didn't actually do much productive uh at the very least though uh for Some of this, at least, I hope it wasn't confiscated from us to begin with, hopefully some foreign entity. So it's less destructive than it could be. But we suddenly get all this money, and everyone's probably going to spend it. That's what happened in the last few stimulus checks that happened. That's why they usually get called stimulus checks, is because you go and spend it.
Starting point is 00:58:35 That's what they're planning on you doing. When everyone suddenly decide they want to purchase something at the same time, what happens to the price? It goes up. so we haven't actually produced more we've taken money in the best possible case we've just taken this money for foreigners fine whatever and we're just going to give it to everyone in the country and we're going to consume a lot and the prices are going to go up does this solve anything no did this bring is it is this bringing manufacturing back if we just have this like one-time injection of two thousand dollars likely not i doubt many of us are going to buy like goods the that go directly to the manufacturing sector, I imagine that's not going to happen. And if it is used to say like the Jordans, I don't think that we're manufacturing those here, though I could be mistaken. Maybe that's some Eastereric knowledge about the footwear that I
Starting point is 00:59:30 don't know. And it kind of just makes me ask, like, what are we doing? The whole campaign promise surrounding the economy was that we were going to undo like the things making it more difficult to live we're going to bring down food prices we're going to make housing cheaper and whatnot else all this stuff is actually plaguing young Americans and in the same I think this is the same day maybe maybe one day apart from the mortgage announcement
Starting point is 01:00:02 we just get told we're going to get a bunch of band-aids this is the day after this is the day after the mortgage stuff so the day after the mortgage which as we have discussed at length did not solve any problem and in fact threatens to exacerbate it by by allowing more people to purchase homes who shouldn't be here and these homes keep rising to infinity in price this isn't solving any of the the cost of living problems you're just you're just giving people a one-time check basically to go spend immediately because once again they haven't changed their behavior or their ethics or whatever they're just going to spend it like they would if they
Starting point is 01:00:39 got two thousand dollars anyways so we're just we're just we're just we're just telling the young people like the boomers are giving us like a pittance like uh here here's some two thousand dollars hope this helps you know you can live comfortably now and that's even if we get in the first place uh because uh the uh secretary of the treasury was uh throwing out ideas about how this might be an indirect two thousand dollar stimulus maybe we'll lower some taxes or whatever this whole thing just infuriates me to to no end the mortgage and this like a one two punch we're just really really going to say like screw the youth screw anyone trying to live here you heritage
Starting point is 01:01:17 americans who have been here for generations uh you don't actually have uh you you don't get to just live here like your ancestors did we're going to keep squeezing you in terms of uh price of cost of living we're going to keep squeezing you on the real estate market uh but here's two thousand dollars go go have fun with it i'm apoplectic uh and i'll stop there i'll just keep going otherwise yeah i think one of the things that um that boomers and a lot of older people in this country uh really just don't understand uh about the financial situation and about like the psychology it kind of does to people who uh aren't very well off uh in these financial positions you guys know um like those uh financial audit like clickbait videos that that one um like broccoli haircut guy that
Starting point is 01:02:07 Caleb guy with his, um, uh, uh, glasses, you know, do you guys know that guy? They make the rounds on Twitter all the time where he finds like some millennial person who's like a hundred grand in debt or something for stupid spending habits or something like that. Um, you guys know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I think what a lot of people don't understand is that, oh, people say like, oh, well, two thousand bucks. Well, why don't you just invest that? Why don't you just, you know, uh, start saving up for something? And it's like, well, if you're in the position of like most Americans where what's the average now it's like the average American is something like $15,000 in debt or something when you take in like things like college student loan debts and credit card debt and something like that it's like you know when just the average person in your country is in debt okay they just see themselves as not having any way out of their situation whatsoever that they aren't going to take this $2,000 to
Starting point is 01:03:07 which is really not going to dig them out of the holder in literally at all, and they're just going to go and find some kind of reprie from their woes. Oh, so this is what people talk about. Like, oh, the $2,000, I'm going to go buy a big screen TV, so at least I can have a little bit of entertainment in my life, or I'm going to go to the bar, and I'm going to buy some liquor or something. It's like people use these $2,000 for sedation because that's the position that they're in. It's like trying to tell somebody that this $2,000,
Starting point is 01:03:37 bucks is they're going to be their path to climbing up the ladder and shaking the boss's hand and getting their way up to you know middle class lifestyle which by the way the other thing here they're just just so preposterous is that 100 grand is now like dude that's that's like middle class now if you make 100 grand a year it's like what are you talking about that you know when we were kids that was like the the high end to go for but our money's just been so inflated away at this point that what you think 100 grand makes you rich now right yeah how do you your mind? Yeah. And it's worth pointing out that our entire conversation at this point assumed that like Americans will be the only one getting it. We haven't had the,
Starting point is 01:04:16 that's a good point too. The mass population transfer that we've hoped for. So it's not just going to be us getting it. There will be a lot of this money. Should it materialize, by the way, but that's also on the table. Like it just doesn't happen. But if it does, we aren't the only ones they're going to be getting it. This is a massive help, I'm sure, for that. group, but, you know, the actual people that are the core of Trump's base, like, screw you, I guess. Yeah, I just, I think all of this, everything just comes back to high trust versus Strip Mall.
Starting point is 01:04:56 At one time, not very long ago, we had a high trust society. In 1973, 83 percent white. You know, 11% black. I mean, brought him here, kind of, you know, maybe killing, killing Lincoln was a bad idea because, you know, he had some plans. But still, 83%. And what happened? Now 30% is over 30% of the country is from everywhere else in the world. And you have to ask yourself,
Starting point is 01:05:37 especially in the last 10 to 15 years, 20 years, how many of them came here or just here for the check? We're just here to make the money and send it home. I remind people, remittances from the United States back to India are 4% of their GDP. High trust, high trust versus a strip mall. It's like that great tweet that Charlemagne had. where the United States government has finally found something they don't want to tax.
Starting point is 01:06:12 It's foreign remittances. Unbelievable. Boy, this is a depressing stream today. There's just no good topics whatsoever. And we haven't even gotten to the Israel one yet, which we will shortly after we catch up on these super chats. So let's go through some of them real quick, and then we'll get to the other thing. you know it really just was this week it was just amazing how it literally just like six days in a row it was a new story every day it's like how could it possibly get worse how could it possibly get
Starting point is 01:06:46 more terrible what kind of bad suggestion they're going to make again today surely they're going to turn around at least a little bit and give us some red meat or something and it's like this israel document comes out earlier today it's like holy shit to our super chats from our fantastic listeners. We got Christopher Burks. He's the first one. I see Salt Snake is number two, but he snuck in before you, Solid Snake.
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Starting point is 01:07:28 one of, if not the only upside to all his heritage Americans being sold down by the river, by the admin, and Conning. that we finally know who's really on our side and not. God willing, these people will be held accountable someday, and real Americans will take their places. Salute. Main focus on the conservatives.
Starting point is 01:07:47 They need to go. They all need to go. Every single one of them. Thank you, Mr. Ferenight. I didn't know you stuck into the stream. God, we got the best producer, don't we, folks? All right. Well, thank you, solid steak.
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Starting point is 01:08:16 simply noticing that people got banned for calling out H1B Indians Twitter is enemy territory again huh interesting well keep your head on a swivel out there guys real Americans real Americans indeed
Starting point is 01:08:33 Don Browning, the only woman in the chat for 20 Australian bucks. She sends us every week has a super sticker. And this time it's a cartoon woman, our cartoon woman, I should say, whose ponytail flies up into a heart and her eyes light up like stars. Thank you, Don Browning. We greatly appreciate it. Malero 393 for 10 bucks. This guy's an old head.
Starting point is 01:08:58 He's been around since the AA days for 10 bucks. we may not be engaged in a war, but other countries are waging war on us by non-military means like espionage, IP theft, and elite replacement. Trump, for all his strengths, is still just a boomer. Yep, very true. I mean, this wasn't even a thing we discussed during the Chinese thing. It's like just all the intellectual property theft. And did you guys see this?
Starting point is 01:09:24 At the University of Michigan, they've now arrested something like six to ten Chinese students for smuggling in bioweapons and viruses. into the University of Michigan Labs. It's like they're literally just importing weapons so they can experiment on them in our universities with our technology. What the fuck are we doing? After the events of the last
Starting point is 01:09:44 60 years, I could never have predicted that happening. Unbelievable, man. Can we just have a little bit of in-group preference? Like, just a tiny bit. You know, just at least being on the radar, you know? Unbelievable. cringewalker hope he's feeling better i know he's been battling the flu recently but for 10 bucks he says
Starting point is 01:10:07 i love being living proof that americans have talent and they can learn the talent in mere weeks damn right man's a mad scientist uh in a just world uh crigwalker would be uh paid a boatload of money in gold wheelbarrels full of gold uh for the things that he does quite an intelligent man to say the least someday someday when we win my friend um all the government grants are going to you get a big giant frankenstein mansion madhouse for you uh tk for five bucks again 11th grade americans with summer coding camp outperform undergraduate third worlders with uh computer science degrees including half mestizos in the 11th grade really huh i mean i believe it i totally believe it now it's like i believe in Americans. I've seen what my people can do. It just cannot be stressed enough that
Starting point is 01:11:02 we are all we need and we're all we have. It never gets old. Never gets old. Um, uh, Semper Cridula for five bucks. Hey, they're right that AI is taking our jobs. It just happens to stand for an Indian. that's so horrible it's like it's like the other thing too it's like oh yeah the AI is going to come in and sweep all of our jobs away let's just keep importing more and more people come on guys you know the jobs aren't going to be here but we really just need to you know import all these people so they can build the device that's going to take away all the jobs and what are we going to do with all these people once we're here now we're just going to keep them you know we're
Starting point is 01:11:50 struggling enough to deport people as it is just so wild at least the one silver line is that J.D. Vance was talking about how we don't need any more Americans being naturalized period. So, at least we've got that. Zenrath for 15 bucks says, if Trump wants to run America like a business, just be an entrepreneur and found a true international college and let the interlopers study there. This way of doing things only makes sense if we are trying to play within the ways have always been done. We need to create better. things. That's a good point. Yes, indeed. No objections.
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Starting point is 01:13:01 and a salute as he does every week. Thank you very much, sir. That seasider wing of OGC headquarters will be constructed one day. Real Americans. He is a real American, absolutely. Polly B for 20 bucks. Bill Clinton was the first black president,
Starting point is 01:13:19 Obama was the first foreign president, and Trump is the first Jewish president. Oof. Oof. airmig discourse for 10 bucks this 10 bucks was promised to the OGC 2,500 years ago there you go exactly why don't we just get 2,000 year mortgages at this point you know it's like why does it even matter the other thing we didn't really make a comment about this though is that you know in normal times but just because like our economy's just been so financialized
Starting point is 01:13:51 and so riddled with that across the entire board you know the people are like paying for Domino's pizzas on credit and debt at this point. So in normal times, just the banks would never be like so brazen and confident in a position to do that. It's like 50 year mortgage, you know, they're just making so much on all these interest payments that everyone has. Well, vigilanceism is looked down upon. Yeah, very good point.
Starting point is 01:14:19 It's so horrible too because, you know, we got Christmas season coming up and I don't about you guys, but the classic Christmas movie that I'm always watching my house was, you know, it's a wonderful life, right? It's like, oh, great big plot in the movie is that, you know, we're going to forego our honeymoon, you know, George is going to go to the bank and use his own money to make sure that the bank isn't taken over. Just imagine that these days, man. Does anyone hold bankers in high esteem, high regard whatsoever? Does anybody think about their communities in such a way like that? bygone age man
Starting point is 01:14:56 moving on to uh cringy once again for 10 bucks cyberpunk 2075 plan truster bot 33 54 has finally sent his final payment for his 2020 pod or 20 by 20 pod he rests in mutters in 11 labs provided voice
Starting point is 01:15:17 finally I can get married oh no so horrible It's amazing to me that cringy can just, like, write out his outline for a dystopian fiction novel and just, like, and fit it into a super chat. Oh, it's so terrible. It's like as bad as my buddy Ryan Stone when he wrote in his dystopian science fiction novel that in the future, Google is going to own all the appliances in your house and it's going to make you watch an ad just so you can use your fucking toilet. So bad. Uh, chance he sends us 55 bucks in 10 cents.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Interesting denomination for a super chat. Well, thank you very much, sir. We greatly appreciate it. You, sir, are a real American. Let's see. Years ago, American journalists would scoff at how fake the Chinese economy was, how it was all ghost cities and bridges made of garbage. Now it's our economy.
Starting point is 01:16:17 That's entirely fake. Houses of cardboard and ultra thin wood, incredible. That's the other thing we didn't even talk. about is it's like just look at the material that these houses are built with today and it's like they're held together with like you know straws and toothpicks and somehow they're still like half a million bucks you know it's it's it's not the actual appliance it's not the actual house it's not the great of the house it's not the fact that's got a fridge it's not the fact that there's a tv in it or any of these other bullshit arguments that boomers want to give to you and say it's like well
Starting point is 01:16:47 when i just have my first house you know we have basically nothing in it's like the houses are literally half a million bucks what plan are you living on and they break every five seconds unbelievable imagine my lack here we go just feeding it right into the next super chatter imagine my lack of
Starting point is 01:17:10 shekels for 15 bucks and he says this 50 year mortgage scheme has more wrinkles than the forehead of that lady who interviewed Sidney Sweeney I've got $700 in equity and just $550 more payments to go you'll own nothing and be happy
Starting point is 01:17:29 man oh man again I just couldn't believe that people were defending this stuff and it's just really really basic math on this one like come on guys just look past the first thing you see at the front of your face that is like your monthly payment unbelievable I find it hilarious as well
Starting point is 01:17:50 that the plan trusting on that specific post also implies that you really like FDR like oh yeah single person still around that likes FDR and Trump together christopher sambatch ah okay we found out one yeah I asked for a single person I got it all righty uh moving on here to uh chief slinging beef for five bucks uh my plant is top five in all metrics in rural Tennessee and one in rural Michigan. Both are 95 plus white. Corporate always says, wow, how do these places do so well? What a thought?
Starting point is 01:18:37 But those Americans, you know, we got to get those foreigners to work in those factories, man. Those Americans are just not doing as well. Pete Budapest for two bucks. Is we getting a tariff check? Dead ass. I mean, I guess I'll say this on the other front, too. It's like, listen, guys, like, if you're going to get it, just, if you qualify for it, just take it, man.
Starting point is 01:19:01 You know, there's, our guys just need every little bit that they can. I don't know, go buy some Nike stock. Let's shoot up real quick right afterwards. Jonathan Burstyn for two bucks. Would you recommend leaving the cities? I mean, I hate these, I hate these kinds of questions. Yeah, I had, I had a conversation about this with Thomas this past weekend when we were hanging out up in the Pacific Northwest. You know, he doesn't want, yeah, he doesn't want people abandoning the cities, but I mean, even he makes the point that if you're going to stay there and fight for the cities and you're going to have a family, it's, it's going to be really, really hard.
Starting point is 01:19:48 you know, I mean, having a fam, you know, if your goal is to, you know, do some kind of, you know, we need to take the cities back because there are centers of power or their centers of culture, whatever it is, you know, that may be a single, that may be a single man's job. I mean, that's certainly true. I mean, you know, for $2 super chat, you know, like asking like one of these like life altering kinds of questions, right? It's like, come on, man, you got to have a little bit more. a frame for your own life, basically, right? I mean, it's like, I don't particularly care for cities. I acknowledge that there are a lot of opportunities for people in them for career choices. Maybe not for finding a mate, but, you know, it's just, it's tough no matter where you go, man.
Starting point is 01:20:35 And there's advantages and disadvantages to all of them. I mean, my recommendation to everybody is just no matter where you go, you got to find your people. And we here at the OGC, we have people everywhere. So that's the most important place to start. Sean Weiland, our financial genius in the chat for two bucks, says financial nihilism, all that's left is gambling. Well, that's going up too. Well, I mean, Lindyman has been tweeting about this quite a bit, is the outbreak of, you know, as more and more sports betting and sports gambling is legalized across all the states. Actually, all the professional sports people are getting involved.
Starting point is 01:21:16 There are just two baseball pitchers for Cleveland that were just banned from the MLB because they were fixing their pitches, you know, to make tens upon tens of thousands of dollars on these gambling apps. I'm actually seeing now that, you know, your sports betting apps, they're actually becoming full-blown casinos on your phone because these things are making so much money. It's a slot machine you can literally hold in your pocket at this point. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm here to do a $5 parlay on the basketball game. While I'm mad at it sitting in commercials, I'm going to slint. you know, do a couple of spins on the slot machine while I'm at it. I tell you, man, that is one of the things I regret voting for the absolute most on my record. That is a really, really bad stain on my record for sure.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Machiavelli sucks. Being white is great for five bucks. We need to stop giving grants to Indians and Asians. Well, yeah, I mean, that's just obviously true. Mikey for 20 bucks, $2,000 redos after rent being on average $17.50 and the average monthly grocery bill is $240 a month. At least we all get $10 to invest. Yep. Yep. That's how you start, guys. Just keep squirling that 10 bucks away and go work your job in McDonald's. And you too can be a middle. class American, you know, with a wife of kids and a white picket fence.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Yeah, you know, make your coffee at home. And one day in 4,000 years, maybe your, like, 10th descendants will be able to purchase a plot of land that's the size of a office desk. Hey, maybe they'll have, you know, generational mortgages by then, you know. But, hey, at least your descendants, you know, who are living in squalor will be able to look back and look overseas and see just how much you did for that country is real and how, you know, a thousand years from now, Jesus still hasn't come back. You know, you can always, you know, hold your hat up high and, you know, be proud of yourself
Starting point is 01:23:33 knowing, at least I didn't get, I betray my principles. Not grim. focus on the conservatives they need to go they all need to go every single one of them thank you mr vice president fahrenheit i like that clip very good um not grim uh for uh two bucks financial nihilism all that's left is gotcha yeah yeah like uh mr wylin was uh pointing out earlier um p budapest for five bucks. I think it's pretty obvious that the usual suspects are using last week's election losses as leverage on Trump. Listen to us or lose your presidency. I mean, that's obvious. A lot of people are doing that. Unfortunately, it's all the wrong people that are doing that because they were the ones that
Starting point is 01:24:27 put all these limp dick-wristed diversity candidates up in all these districts. And of course, they got their asses handed to them, which was obvious to literally anybody who's paying attention, except for the traditional conservatives. I hope Vivek gets absolutely. absolutely fucking curb stomped next year into the dirt. You know, he'd be buried under six feet of poo afterwards. But, you know, again, play the clip again. Play the clip again of Mr. Fahrenheit because it just cannot be stated enough. Main focus on the conservatives.
Starting point is 01:24:59 They need to go. They all need to go. Every single one of them. Yep. Cringe Walker, once again, admin withholding unemployment rate this month really filling me with confidence in this economy yeah really yeah it's just no i don't care how many times you slice it how many times you tell me that the 401ks are doing great and the stock market's at an all-time high you know it just it just honestly fuels me with so
Starting point is 01:25:26 much boomer hatred every time i see one of those things it's like it doesn't matter they're all fake metrics for what the economy actually is what the economy actually is is your young people can't afford a home and start and start families it's the most important things and they can't do it. Pete Budapest for five bucks. Hey Ben, maybe Drew Lissolum just isn't meant for you to live in. Maybe you should look to live somewhere else. Oh, wait, my bad.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Every single time. Thank you, Mr. Cotarlson. Thank you very much. Honestly, like, if anyone, you guys know, like, the same stuff like the boomer. The boomer insults are just particularly bad, man. They're just like, turn, just like, like Democrats and, you know, Catarlson, you know, very, very weak sauce. Ski-bum, 224, 50 bucks tonight. Thank you very much, sir.
Starting point is 01:26:27 We greatly appreciate that. He says, what an infuriating couple of months. There's a very large Charlie Kirk-shaped hole in the right. Who is going to replace him, salute the OGC. Yeah, it's very true. is a huge huge hole real americans real americans indeed i mean it's sad to say that uh i think that was a giant uh you know charlie sized hole that a lot of us didn't realize until he was gone so to our internal shame moving on to uh p budapest again thank you again tonight guys
Starting point is 01:27:03 for all the super chats um you guys are really piling it on for us so thank you very much um he says for another 10 bucks. Not to get all elite theory, but I feel like Project Trump was always an uphill battle, hard to overstate how little elite support heritage, white Christian Americans have, basically non-existent. I mean, very true.
Starting point is 01:27:22 We got Tucker Carlson. So everyone continue to pay attention what he's doing. I got to say, I'm particularly enjoying his return to the monologue form on Wednesday nights. I recommend everybody be watching those because every one of them is just straight facts and he's just spit and fire. Tucker's doing a fantastic job. Yeah, excellent. The Wednesday night shows are excellent. Oh, yes. Let's move on to James S. If Trump was one-tenth the authoritarian, the left says he is, he could crush the
Starting point is 01:27:55 communist revolution and prevent the catastrophic misery we will endure. And after that, if we are lucky, the American Franco, I mean, again, it's very true. Just be like one-tenth of the Republican, the Democrats accuse you of being. It's just because it's just all projection for them. You know, they just tell us blatantly and out in the open of what they're going to do. It's just
Starting point is 01:28:19 Republicans just have no balls, man. They really don't. Just keep them 220 for another five bucks. Most of my co-workers have sports betting apps on their phones. It makes me so sad. Oh yeah. Yep. I see it. Almost everybody. Everybody's got them.
Starting point is 01:28:35 You go over to like a friend's house. and you're watching like NFL Sunday right and almost everybody there who's sitting on the couch has got one of these is doing the sports betting stuff just is really really dark man very bleak and then like you you see the commercials as well when you're watching like the sports games and almost all of them are the sports betting stuff and they've got all these schemes you know it's like oh your first bet for 100 bucks is absolutely free if you uh you know get on the app right now these people are making so much money off of this they can afford to the second you get on the app give you a hundred bucks you know for your first bet nuts maccvilly sucks being white is great uh for five bucks ask how all these female nail shops afford their equipment yeah
Starting point is 01:29:25 well in in their defense i mean have you seen how much they charge women to get their nails and their hair done You know, I think it's just a complete inside job just so women can feel proud of themselves and have a one-up over the other women. You know, there's no way some of these hair appointments cost a couple hundred bucks. Get out of here. It's not how much that labor and that product costs. It's just so they can, you know, flex on the other women who aren't getting their hair appointments. Pete Putapest for two bucks. Many are saying Vivek should be in jail.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Yeah, it's obviously true. cringewalker says did my carthage chat get missed oh you know i saw it go by in the chat earlier i don't think it's on the i think i might have missed it on the on the list though um well we'll find it cringy we'll find it oh wait here we go funny enough after the second punic war the romans imposed a punitive 50 year mortgage on the city of carthage for 10,000 silver talents 250 million in us can't help it suspect its generational vengeance no come on cringy this group generational vengeance come on no every single time um all righty in the final super chat and then we're going to tackle the rest of these stories really quick they were really piling up tonight guys
Starting point is 01:30:57 thank you very much we really really appreciate it over here um vatican banker for five Um, uh, Creolos, 100% European Latin Americans have been minorities in their countries for centuries, yet have maintained full political, cultural, and economic power. The American Anglo has much to learn from them, including the art of thriving in cities. Well, um, I'll take your word for it, uh, on that one. So, all right. Uh, all right, let's buckle up. Let's do it. Um, we were avoiding it all stream, but we just have to, you know, so in wake of President Trump, his terrible appearance on Laura Ingram, the awful response on the administration on how we're going to deal with
Starting point is 01:31:44 the housing crisis and the inflation and just average Americans being in debt, we had to really just take an entire can of gasoline and jump right into the fire with this one, because President Trump and his infinite wisdom today decided that, you know, who he's going to go to bat for, the leader of a foreign country that has thrown him under the bus time and time and time again. So here we have a letter from President Trump, official from the White House, to his excellency, Isaac Herzog, the president of the state of Israel, begging him to pardon Benjamin Netanyahu. From the river to the sea, Israel backstab me.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I'm not even going to read this. I'm just going to get too angry because just no man, the United States of America with 10,000 plus nuclear weapons, the strongest country in the history of the world, the richest country, the history of the world, the most powerful man on the planet. President of the United States is begging on his hands and knees to another foreign power to pardon somebody in their country.
Starting point is 01:33:00 It's just, this is just, completely unheard of. Has someone, has a United States president ever debased themselves before in such a way like this? Getting involved in another nation's politics like this. This is just crazy, man. And this is why I will never, ever give an inch to all these fucking liars, like these Joel Berries and these Seth Dillans of the world and the James Lenzies and all these other fucking losers who are saying, oh, why are you guys so obsessed with Israel and so obsessed with Jews? is like this is unhealthy this is unnatural this kind of behavior is unbecoming of any like masculine man whatsoever let alone the most powerful man on the planet what the fuck are you talking about
Starting point is 01:33:41 that i'm obsessed like with this country or something it's like no you people are this is ridiculous this is fucking absurd everyone sees this as a joke what are we doing i mean the the the baby is has been putting out headlines, just making fun of people who they say are obsessed with Israel. First of all, I mean, Ted Cruz literally went on Tucker Carlson's show and said he got elected to Congress, he got elected to the Senate in order to be Israel's greatest defender. And in the same interview when he was questioned on that, he asked Tucker why he was obsessed with Israel. I'm sorry, who the fuck is obsessed with Israel?
Starting point is 01:34:32 You just said, you got elected to do this. James Lindsay just went and kissed the wall. Seth Dillon is making the rounds, and he looks, I mean, he's like, I'm convinced they have him, there's a picture of him. with a kid attached to I mean he looks like a hostage and he's just going there and they're all doing this and why the fuck would you do this for people who are not yours now I heard Seth Dylan is admitted that he is Jewish ethnically Jewish so that makes sense why is James Lindsay doing this why is everybody all of this money is being poured into this anyone who wants to go on Facebook can see the $7,000 posts or just one after another after another look they have power
Starting point is 01:35:30 they're going to have power for a while but it's pretty obvious that they're panicking this is the one problem see normally you know for those who believe in elite theory you you need elites to change things. And normally, you know that elites are going to change things. You know that when one set of elites is going to replace another set of elites when they just get sick and tired of the way things are, there's going to be a civil war. But with this, and you can see this in our reading of 200 years together, normal people start noticing. They did it in Russia. They did it all throughout Europe. They did it all throughout the 10, 10, 110, 11, 112, however many countries it's been now. And that's why they're panicking so much. They know their history. It's not only
Starting point is 01:36:28 the elites who are like, we don't want to deal with these people anymore. Normal people start to notice and start to grumble. You think the pogroms, the quote unquote pogroms were directed by elites read salshanesan they weren't it was people figuring out these are the ones who are enslaving us with us these are the ones who are who are feeding us you know this where did all this alcohol come from where did where did these ends with prostitutes come from
Starting point is 01:37:03 where did all of this come from I mean when the people now are the people in this country going to commit violence against them? No, I don't think so. I don't think they have it in them.
Starting point is 01:37:21 They'll stop doing business with them. They'll stop, they'll be vocal about it. And I mean, it's, how can you, how can you look at this letter? and think you have a country.
Starting point is 01:37:45 We know who is in power at the moment. And I released an episode today. It's one of the first episodes I've done in a while where it's just me talking. And my question was, everybody wants to talk about, you know, throw this in our face. You know, if you're a Christian, book of Genesis says those who bless Israel are blessed, those who curse Israel or cursed. We've been blessing Israel since 1948. Can I see some fucking blessings?
Starting point is 01:38:21 Where are the fucking blessings? So either the Bible is full of shit, or it doesn't mean that you have to bless Benjamin Netanyahu and Jeffrey Epstein and the spy, Jonathan, whatever the fuck his name, was yeah you're gallant laura lumer um all these fuckers josh hammer what you think you have to bless them where are the fucking blessings it's just so ridiculous coming from all these christian voices because the whole point of the new testament is jesus saying that israel is the
Starting point is 01:39:07 people it is the church it's not the actual you know tiny ass little country that's had his borders changed you know for thousands of years and had different rulers going over it it's like also like where is the line of david right now like currently in charge of uh israel by the way as well so like even by that argument you know how could you possibly say that this you know tiny ass little country has anything to do with that it's just none of that makes sense at all you're not a jew unless you are sacrificing in the temple thomas is right there are no jews without sacrifice without expiation of sin you cannot you're not a jew so all these people are just land thieves parasites upon upon foreign countries terrorists as monoccombegan said
Starting point is 01:40:00 we brought terrorism not only to the middle east we brought it to the world what and i'm supposed to bless them just even just again like throwing all the distanceationalist nonsense and all the evangelical stuff out the window for a second it's just this is just so unbecoming of a man it's like how does a man behave this way is the thing I keep coming back to so just look at the language in here stuff it's like stood tall for Israel in the face of the strong adversaries and long odds
Starting point is 01:40:41 and his attention cannot be unnecessarily diverted. It's like, what is this? A fucking love letter? Unbelievable, man. Oh, you guys are just so obsessed with this. You know, Israel's situation, man.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Nid me one other country on the entire planet that could boss around the United States of America. a country that has enough nukes to level the entire planet down to its last atom what other country could possibly get this kind of response from the president of the united states how many prisoners do they have to rape anally rape on film you know before the blessings start flowing don't we have to bless that if we want if we want to be blessed
Starting point is 01:41:37 I mean, seriously, they just arrested the woman who released that video, the video of the of the Palestinian prisoner being raped. They just arrested the woman who was like, I can't take this anymore. This is insane. This is not who we are. This is not what civilized people do. They fucking arrested her. Just keep blessing them.
Starting point is 01:42:05 people i mean if these if these are the blessings please show me the i don't want to see the fucking curses this is the country also that was at the outset hostile to us upon its creation like this is a like how does the how does the reasoning hold up then like if if israel's against us we just roll over and
Starting point is 01:42:30 take it like is that how it works you bless them but if they decide to go against you you just surrender is that the is that the idea because then i wonder why why why didn't we you know why why fight this cold war against international communism and socialism but also we're never going to write in any history book or whatever else like who who actually founded israel who the parties were who they sabotage, spied against which side they were on. We're just going to ignore that.
Starting point is 01:43:06 It's the foundational myth for the exact same people that always cite this stupid verse. So it's another piece of history that gets selectively suppressed. The only white pill we can have out of this is that, like we were saying earlier, is these people see that the writing is on the wall for people like them.
Starting point is 01:43:30 the youth are not moving on this issue your golems on the left have completely turned on you because you've indoctrinated all of them to see Israel as a white oppressor colonialist power and the people on the right are just absolutely done with seeing their country being used for absolutely everything except being used to actually forward the interests of their own people everything that Americans are forced to tackle with, the humiliation, the inflation, the drugs at home, the endless wars, the mass migration, the ethnic replacement of our own people, the destruction of our faith, of our traditions, of our history, all of that has to take second banana to this.
Starting point is 01:44:26 and we're just done with it and our minds will never be changed on this issue it is too far gone this is like literally one step removed from literally sucking people's dicks curse just tweeted only about one percent of spiders are harmful to humans yet we quickly eject them from our homes
Starting point is 01:44:52 when we see them this post is not about spiders any final comments on on this ryan it's pretty clear it's a boomer issue and it's another point where the boomers are content to just sell everything out so spite the goof and whatever else just have their last hurrah they're the only constituency that actually cares about this in a positive manner um so yeah main focus on the conservatives they need to go they all need to go every single one of them you know the only other final thing i will say on this one is um uh yeah where's all the planned trusters on this one and all those people who were saying um oh like with jews you win and all that stuff i heard that was a very popular talking
Starting point is 01:45:38 point amongst all these characters for a while where's that now guys huh this is just so unbelievable to me again this is like how I imagine, you know, like the Gauls must have come to Caesar, you know, after he just completely destroyed them when he was conquering ancient France. No, this is, this is like the sign of, like, someone who's just been absolutely defeated coming forth and begging for mercy, basically. This is the kind of behavior you get from people. I imagine this might be how, like, the people were treating like with the moguls when the hordes were coming towards them. Just begging, please don't lay waste to my village of my people. fucking the country the size of New Jersey with nine million people, zero strategic resources, zero strategic interest whatsoever, just a completely insignificant speck of sand in the middle of a giant fucking desert.
Starting point is 01:46:37 And we have to give endless amounts of support, endless amounts of money, endless amounts of weapons, endless amounts of airtime. It's just such a fucking joke. And then people have the audacity to tell people like us, Oh, why are you guys so obsessed about Israel? Aren't you guys little lunatics? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Dumb with this story, moving on. Brian, you're going to take the reins from here on this one,
Starting point is 01:47:10 because this is the next story. We're going to be talking about the, from the Intercollegiate Studies Institute. ISI. So what's going on here, Ryan, and why should we care? so as you can see on the text or on the screen right now that's a wall of text we aren't reading all of that i'm just going to condense it down to the part that matters um this was a like a buckleyite conservative talking about how terrible things were at isi uh because the buckleyites were being
Starting point is 01:47:40 forced out by the post liberal groups sort of clustered around denine and uh burqa um so a bunch of our people who probably have only ever come across this from the outside just looked at it and saw that like buckley arts were getting forced out that's based that's good the the people forcing them out are are good too um but that's not necessarily a correct assumption uh so if you like come across this institution which for most people in the ogc and listening to us you probably haven't either directly interacted with it or if you have it's like the like the concern group full of conservatives so you know that that tells you all you need to know we don't we don't really need to like join this fight but since so many people have like I saw a bunch of
Starting point is 01:48:34 guys donating money to ISI that were in our spheres a very nice sum of money to to this group because they forced out the conservatives and whatnot I figured we should just like take a brief time to analyze who is forcing out these Buckleyites. If anyone in the audience listened in to American spirits for this week and last week, they would know that I have nothing but a burning contempt for Buckley and his movement, and I imagine that the rest of the OGC leadership would be unanimous in that. I would be very shocked to find much deviation there. But the side forcing out these Buckleyites is not necessarily good. Like, if you look like, if you look at it, you like, if you look, at Patrick Deneen during the Biden administration, if you can remember just how totally bleak it was.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Patrick Dene was saying that like the biggest problem facing America was tyrannophobia, like this unwarranted fear of tyranny. We just needed we needed to accept more of what we typically call tyranny and the country might start might start improving. This was not in, or at least as far as I could tell, you know, this wasn't in preparation of a Trump admin. especially before the GOP coalesced around Trump again, ISI tended to be slated towards DeSantis with the sort of minority backing Trump, at least among the students.
Starting point is 01:50:00 So this is during the Biden admin. Patrick Deneen wrote his very famous book, Why Liberalism Failed, he is a post-liberal. As many of the post-liberals will tell you, that doesn't actually mean much. It just means that you're not an American liberal, which is why you can have, of a former president like Barack Obama endorsing his book. It's why Danine can go and call for
Starting point is 01:50:23 like LBJ's policies on steroids with a Roman Catholic, multiracial working class coalition. This is a this is what's being pushed. This is what forced out the Buckleyites. I am very happy that the Buckleyites are being destroyed at seemingly every turn now. I think that everyone should be very cautious supporting people going against them. I do not think think, especially that Heritage Americans should be supporting someone like Patrick Deneen. In fact, by all indications, it seems that most post-liberals, the ones that call themselves that, the Dene types, especially, just want to liquidate and destroy Heritage America, but in a different way than the current regimes are doing. They love to talk about how they want to just completely
Starting point is 01:51:11 demographically shift the U.S. towards this very strange view of Roman Catholic. that they have that doesn't seem to be entirely shared by the rest of the Roman Church. They talk about how we need to completely destroy any and all concepts of liberty and freedom. And that's not an exaggeration. That's not me, the libertarian being exaggerative. If I recall correctly, Deneen was talking about how liberty should not be viewed in a positive light. There are many abuses, of course, of liberty in the modern day. But if you know anything about American history, like the history of heritage Americans, your history, you would know how absurd and hostile it is to say that liberty and all of its concepts is an enemy. This is an extremely Anglo concept that's being targeted here, and that's not an accident.
Starting point is 01:52:07 So that's the overview. You can read this that's on the screen. quite frankly this is not important the most important part was a whole bunch of people gathering around the sort of post-liberal resurgence and somehow thinking that it's good i guess if you don't care about heritage americans or heritage america this this could be good i wouldn't know though because that's not me and i don't think like that and i haven't even tried to think like that um so that was that was most of what i wanted to go through uh hopefully that's clear or makes some some sort of sense
Starting point is 01:52:41 Yeah, I think that was a pretty exhaustive report for everyone on all of us. I mean, all this infighting in all these organizations, all these, you know, Khan Inc. institutions isn't going away anytime soon. So at the very least, it'll be interesting to see what all the developments are. Maybe in some places, some people who are more aligned to us will be taking these things over. maybe in some cases it'll be whack jobs maybe in some cases it'll be people who you know are enemies of our enemies but that doesn't necessarily make them our friends who the hell knows um but i will agree with you ryan and saying that i'm glad the buckleyites are getting theirs at least i could find some consolation in that there is justice somewhere you know the whole all these people i think heritage is mentioned in here um they basically what I think they're doing right now is they're doing their own version of looting the treasury they know their days are numbered they know that when the boomers die off gen x is i mean we were raised nihilist we don't care about them um gen z and and the millennials aren't going to have anything for them because they've made sure you know conservative Ivank has made sure that they're broke.
Starting point is 01:54:12 So they either go the way of, you know, being obsolete and disappearing, or, you know, as we saw when Yeram Hazoni had to come, had to fly all the way from Israel to talk to Kevin Roberts, because Kevin Roberts was, had lost the plot about how heritage has to be pro-Jewish and not only pro-Jewish, but needs to go after anti-Semitism. Yeramizoni had to fly here to help him, the same kind of language that Michael used and Godfather, too, about Frank Pantanjali and then flying his brother in for him. I mean, almost the parallels are ridiculous. They know that they're either going, they're either going to go away or they're just going
Starting point is 01:55:05 have to completely rely upon Jewish money to exist after the boomers are gone. As far as I'm concerned, heritage is not an American. I mean, there's nothing heritage about them unless heritage goes back to 1948 and a foreign country. These people are just, we have, the founders wrote that we had enemies foreign and domestic. I don't think they could have ever guessed that a lot of those enemies were going to be foreign, but they were going to be domestic too.
Starting point is 01:55:50 We were going to have to deal with domestic foreign enemies because we can't say, no, you can't come here. You're not like us. uh indeed uh let's tackle these superchats guys and get out here it's been a uh particularly particularly depressing stream to say at least there's been no good stories tonight not a single it's been i mean for those of us who went to the pacific northwest event we've had a we had a great last you know seven days at least you know a bunch of those days were great yeah as long as we weren't paying attention to what the hell was going on because i mean as far as you know the
Starting point is 01:56:42 political arena goes and twitter and this government and this regime they couldn't make it any more clear that they hate us i mean sorry that's what donald trump made it sound like he hates us so what do we do i don't know i don't want to believe that but you know that letter i appreciate him pardoning the j sixers and you know especially since they weren't rappers they weren't black rappers who that's pretty much who he only pardons But when it comes down to it, I don't think he would write a letter like that for an American. Who maybe, I don't, I don't even see him an American being held hostage overseas going out of his way to bring them home. No, it just seems like he has one focus at this point.
Starting point is 01:57:57 And like I said, I was just, I would have been perfectly happy. if he would have just been as phylo as as um as um phylo-semitic is that the proper term yeah um something like that yeah as he was in the first in the first term his first term but no seems like in uh 10 months he's heaped blessing upon blessing upon blessing upon blessing upon blessing upon blessing upon blessing upon a foreign country and I'm happy that the border is closed still waiting for them deportations well Mark Levin is signing up any day to go and you know go work on the border with all those ice agents you know that's a that's a war we're getting for all this Israel simping right let's get through the
Starting point is 01:59:00 super chats guys and get out of here um cringe walker once again sends us five bucks the israel u.s dynamic really violates the monroe doctrine but nobody talks about it oh yep that's obviously true um america one of america's oldest foreign policy uh doctrines we've had from almost the beginning and yep flies right in the face of it especially when they are trying to invoke it just today to go and get involved with Venezuela, but, you know. And American spirits will be covering the Monroe Doctrine and its various interpretations this next Monday, which you should tune in for. It's much more complicated than just the U.S. will defend the Western Hemisphere.
Starting point is 01:59:45 There's more to it. There you go. Ryan and Charlie are doing some excellent stuff on American spirits, so everybody should be listening in. Mikey sends us two bucks, putting on the funny hat, changes a man I hear. Yeah, not for the better. Every single time. Yeah, that's a known anti-Semite talking right there.
Starting point is 02:00:10 Yeah, you know, really, a really hateful guy. P. Budapest for 10 bucks. If I had to sum up 2025 in one word, it would be acceleration. I thought it would be defined by chaos, but I underestimated how much. other factions we're willing to go all in there's certainly a lot to be said well the yeah the um definitely the acceleration on the people noticing our greatest ally is uh i mean we're we're talking about warp speed at this point yeah there's definitely that and then there's also the just the acceleration of just violence against right wingers and it's only going to get worse
Starting point is 02:00:56 no uh not grim for two bucks elite theory for the plebs blood satellite all right now we'll go tune in over there um air make discourse for five bucks i prefer the term ferrisi for these people more accurate in my opinion yeah i guess it's fair uh p boudapest for five bucks how grim is trump 2.0 going, well, Nikki Haley this week said that Trump's plan on bringing in more foreign students in H-1Bs might be a tad bit too far. Yeah, I mean, well, everybody else,
Starting point is 02:01:32 here's the other thing too. It's like, everybody can see that the base is divided over this and is riled up about this and people smell blood in the water. And it kind of just shows you who are the actual, like, cunning politicians and who are the ones that have their thumbs up their
Starting point is 02:01:48 ass. You know, it's like, I have no love for Nikki Haley. I have no love for this Democratic governor in Ohio or Democratic candidate in Ohio, I should say, or all these other politicians who've been flanking Trump to the right on this, but well, it just goes to show you. Well, you know, I remember when people would call Trump a fascist and a Nazi and everything, and some people go, oh, come on, he's just a Democrat from Queens. He didn't really have to go and prove that to us.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Hunter counts for 20 bucks Thank you very much sir I see another angle to the Netanyahu pardon He has kept Israel in constant war in part Because it's the only way he stays out of prison That's obviously true A promise of a pardon coupled with some applied pressure Could be enough to get him to step down
Starting point is 02:02:48 Be replaced hopefully with someone more sensible still churns my stomach though why are we playing like six degrees of Kevin Bacon here on with this at this point man it's like this is just this is just fucking ridiculous where you don't hard liners it's the hardliners that are waiting for him to leave so that they can continue their Eretz Israel project they there are people who are like Benetianu's just not going far enough and those are the people waiting to take over again it's just like people just need to get it through their thick heads man it's like we are on our own we are
Starting point is 02:03:25 Americans for an american nation only us it's all we need and we're all we have this nonsense of like you know like with jews you win stuff just needs to be entirely rejected outright just look at this fucking behavior man it's like even if they were going to magically help us or something and get us out of all these problems by associating with israel and these people it's like is it worth the cost of our souls at this point to be doing this kind of behavior which isn't going to get us what we want anyway i mean i said it before and i'll say it again that letter right there is just literally one step away from literally just getting on your hands and knees and sucking in this cock just totally unacceptable behavior for people to be having just like have some fucking dignity and some backbone for the united states of america fucking act like it. Everybody else just bosses us to fuck around.
Starting point is 02:04:22 It's like that tweet earlier, it's like, oh yeah, we think we're really respected and revered on the world stage. It's like, get a fucking break, dude. Everyone's laughing at us. Everyone thinks we're rubs, absolute idiots. We pay every single Tom, Dick, and Harry who steps on foot of this country aside from our own fucking people. We're getting dragged around by a country the size of New Jersey to go fight all their
Starting point is 02:04:43 wars for them. This country's a fucking joke, man. Jeremy Kerns for five bucks What is up my piggas Be Budapest for ten bucks America in 2025 that scene in Mars attacks With the veiling adians chasing people With the faulty translation machine saying
Starting point is 02:05:09 Don't run, we're your friends I can go back and watch that movie I remember really liking that movie when it came out Blood Base sends us 20 bucks. Thank you very much. Jeremy Kearns for the 10 bucks. Trying to start a OGC chapter in Arizona. Is there anyone I can get in contact with?
Starting point is 02:05:30 There is. Send us an email over at OGC. Or IllogloryClub at gmail.com. I'm put you in contact with people. And again, for five bucks, he says, I really want to throw clipped quarters at Dave Portnoy right now. Who's going to join me? me.
Starting point is 02:05:50 Yep. Well, that's it for the Super Chats. Oh, well, we got one more coming in right at the wire. Knock room for five bucks. Despite the bleakness of the situation, I hope this lets us know that we're all we've got. We've got each other, and that's something that counts. Hell yeah. And listen here, we've done a lot of, yeah, we tackled some very hard-hitting stories here tonight.
Starting point is 02:06:17 But again, it's very important to remember is that not only are we all we have, but more importantly, we're all that we need, man. It's like Americans are the best, most ingenious, most kind, most hardworking people on the entire planet. We are all we need. We don't need anybody else. We don't need other countries. We don't need other people's labor. Don't need other people's talent. We have us.
Starting point is 02:06:44 And all we need is just to cast off these parasites. and grifters and liars and cheats from our politics and get a hold on our own nation and we will thrive and we will prosper and everyone else can get fucked pete what do you got going on this week uh i just dropped episode 1292 called where are the blessings it's my own version of a uh fireside chat so um go listen to me rants and ask a lot of questions for about 60 minutes. So, yeah, that's about it. Join the OGC. Of course. Here, here. Mr. Turnip Seed, thank you for coming on the show tonight, my friend. What do you have to grow out, sir? Well, every Monday at the same time that the Coney Express starts, B7 Central or 8 Eastern, we host American Spirits. Charlie and I do, where we tried to go through the history of Heritage America, political theories that we need to understand things. And we, I'm sure pretty soon we'll be talking about
Starting point is 02:08:00 actually applying some of it or even some of the more philosophical aspects. But the important points is that two weeks ago, two weeks ago from this Monday, and in fact our other co-panelists here, Pete was on for this. It was American Spirits on Murray Rothbard's betrayal to the American right. We had Tom Woods on, just a few days ago on Monday. It was me, Stephen Carson, and Mr. Oberon Quinn, going over Pat Buchanan's very famous and, frankly, a seminal article at this point for how good it is. Who's war talking about his interest? That's an excellent episode, man. That was a really good episode thank you i i felt perhaps the best on it so i it's my own personal favorite but everyone in the uh in the chat right now or uh everyone rather watching the stream uh should
Starting point is 02:08:55 probably go and watch it because we go through uh the entirety of the article and it's just a wealth of information from pat buchanan so national hero this next monday we'll be going over the monroe doctrine uh which like the last two episodes we have had all of this plan like a month in advance and just like the week before we go live the topic comes up in popular discourse so if you want to know about the monroe doctrine like what did monroe actually say and has addressed to congress uh how was it reinterpreted by uh president uh polk uh how was it then further reinterpreted after the civil war uh that's that's what you want to go listen to because and i'll i'll give you this free before the before the stream uh the monroe doctrine does not say like that the
Starting point is 02:09:42 United States just gets to rule and police the entire Western Hemisphere. If you just read it strictly, it's not a guarantee that American men, money, and all that we hold dear goes towards defending Latin America or something like that. So that's what we have in American spirits. Make sure to keep watching it. We put a lot of work into it. It's very based on the text. So if you want something higher end in your podcast, of course you would have a Peach show, which is fantastic as well, but also American Spirits. Go and make sure to listen to that. All righty. Yes. So I enjoyed that Tom Woods episode. It was fantastic. Everyone, be sure to check out American Spirits. For myself, on next Wednesday, I will be appearing
Starting point is 02:10:29 on the Green Tavern with the Nathaniel Green Society. So everyone be sure to tune in to that. That's going to be next Wednesday. And then in the future as well, there are talks for me doing some more shows with friends of ours. Kyle Motovic and I are due for a stream coming up pretty soon, so I'll be on the lookout for that. And also, I might be resuming my Sunday gaming on my channel. It's just something for me to do for a couple of hours on a Sunday. So take a look at that.
Starting point is 02:11:00 And we will be back here next week for another episode of Pony Express Radio. We'll see you guys then. When I pass on my good jeans to my sons, they're going to join the old glory club.

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