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Let's get right to it, fellas. First, we're going to have to talk about some more stories we were mentioning last week, but more details have come out. So officially now, the Assad regime has fallen in Syria. So Bashar al-Assad, renowned optometrist, has escaped to Russia with this family. Here's a video here brought to us by Russians with attitude showing the Syrian army evacuating in their thousands. And apparently this is a video of Russians. And I quote, translated as basically calling them a bunch of F-slers for retreating and routing.

But Oliver, you've been following this story very closely. why don't you give us an update as to what's going on with the whole serious situation? What are some of the most important parts that are important for us as Americans some things that we should be watching? Well, I should be

clear that I have not followed up on it in the last 24 hours, but as of 24 hours ago, I was following it pretty closely. I did not have a chance to track it today, so there may have been some things that have happened in the immediate past that have slipped through the cracks with me. But the most important,

thing to understand is that the West has well the West with its closest Middle Eastern ally has wanted to bring down Syria for quite some time the quote unquote Arab Spring that kicked off more than 20 years ago it wasn't immediately in Syria but Syria was one of the first targets you also had it was Algeria and and that region there were issues with Libya and the rest but But one of the primary targets, certainly one of the most desired targets for the Israelis and for the Turks and the United States, was to see the Assad government fall in Syria. There are a number of geostrategic reasons for that, a primary one being that it provided an overland logistical corridor for Iran to supply Hezbollah in Lebanon. But there are other reasons likely having to do with energy and pipelines concern on the part of the Turks to be sure that energy supplies that pass through to Europe, that they had some role to play in that.

Russian concerns with making sure that alternate routes for Europe to get energy didn't get established because of their desire to maintain that strategic leverage over Europe. Israel's concerns, as I said, about the supplying of Hezbollah, but also their desire, presumably, for greater territorial expansion, the whole idea of a greater Israel, their concerns about the Golden Heights and high ground there. So there's a lot going into it, but as most of our listeners will know or should know, I'm sure all of you guys do, that basically got shut down by Russian intervention. But all the Russians were able to do, and the Iranians and Hezbollah and some other people that came in to fight on behalf of Assad at the time, all that they were really able to do was freeze this situation in place with Syria having pretty much been partitioned and carved up horribly and weakened and put into a very, very poor economic situation. And so that situation has held up until recently with the United States militia forces called the SDF, the Syrian Democratic forces in the northeast of Syria, U.S.-backed Kurdish militias and other groups there. And we should all be aware that the Kurds are primarily like Maoist, Marxist, atheists trying to set up. their own region there with the YPG, which is sort of a different face of the PKK that is given Turkey trouble for so long.

Likewise, there was an area that got absorbed and reshaped by the Turks fairly early on near the province. They're jutting southern sort of salient of the province of Hatai, the former Seljuk of Sanjak, of Alexandretta, the Turks moved across the border from there and took places like Efrin and they exercised de facto control over the industrial, the Syrian industrial center of Aleppo. Many of the so-called rebels and various kinds of jihadi forces hold up in Idlib after they got pushed there by the Hezbollah and Iranian and Russian intervention. and the Turks also moved south in a different section, a little bit closer to Monbej,

and seized an area of Syria with their own armed forces directly rather than through proxies in order to establish what they're calling a buffer zone. And in addition to that, you, of course, have a long-held area that the Israeli seized a long time ago, near the Golan Heights or in the Golan Heights. And then there were American forces up in the area that's controlled by the Syrian Democratic forces, the Kurdish groups that the U.S. backs, as well as down near the border with Jordan

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The various coalition of Western powers has been trying to take Assad down for quite some time. It's, you know, well over a decade now. Intervention on the part of the Russians and their allies, the Iranians, and the rest, managed to freeze it for a time. But it has been a horrible mess. And apparently the Syrian elites have been subverted, had been subverted to some extent, certainly military command and the military itself. And so, you know, a couple weeks ago, we had an offensive come pouring out of Idlib in the direction of Aleppo.

And if any of the various reports are coming out are to be trusted, a certain number of the troops that were supposed to be defending against this to protect Syria, went over to the enemy side and joined them. a proportion of them, probably a more significant proportion, dropped their weapons, stripped out of their uniforms, and just tried to get the hell out of Dodge. There are said to have been financial incentives offered for this. You had soldiers who are getting paid something like $7 a month, and if the reports are to be trusted, they were offered something like $400 to throw down their weapons and move along.

Apparently, a lot of the Syrian military equipment was seized. And from there, Aleppo fell and then Hama, and the idea was that the troops were going to back up and defend themselves in the area of Humps, which is strategically important because it connects the coastal enclave of Latakia, which hosts the Russian naval base refueling station and the Russian air base there with Damascus and some of the other areas of Syria. but as it happened, that didn't hold. And the Syrian forces collapsed very, very quickly, so much so that it's not even really accurate to call it a lightning offensive. It was basically a lightning retreat. There was resistance to the movement of these rebel forces in the beginning, with Russians carrying out sorties to bomb them from the air

and apparently fairly effective ones, but the Syrian forces on the ground just did not hold up. And Assad is said to have departed for Russia and has been granted some sort of asylum or refuge there. This has been confirmed by the Russian authorities. And at present, the mess of Syria looks like it's going to get a whole lot messier. One of the ways that some of the people who followed this more closely than I do describe it as not being the end of the Syrian problem, but the beginning of a whole new

phase. Effectively, the Iranians have been cut off in terms of overland routes from Hezbollah. Israel has moved into the southern parts of Syria, in particular, flanking the Lebanese border moving north, and thereby beginning to enclose or to surround more effectively the Hezbollah forces in the south of Lebanon. This, of course, is following on the heels, as everyone knows, of major Israeli efforts to take ground there, which weren't successful, but there were a number of successful Israeli attacks

on the leadership of Hezbollah, the stuff with the pagers and with the heavy bombing of Beirut that killed the leader of Hezbollah as well as many of their, you know, their upper, levels of their hierarchy. So it's a terrible mess. Last I looked there was fighting going

on between the Turkish backed forces in the northeast. This includes like Hayat Terir Sharm as well as SNA, the Syrian National Army as they call it. They're in the northeast

excuse me, they're in the northwest whereas the Kurds are in the northeast and the Turkish-backed forces have been moving eastward approaching the Euphrates River, and I believe they did push the Kurdish, primarily Kurdish militia forces, back east of the Euphrates River. And up in that northeastern area, you've got the lion's share of Syrian energy resources, as well as the better part of their farmland, which the U.S. and the U.S. and the U.S. and the U. those Kurdish forces retain control of. So it looks like we're going to all have to sit back and fetch some popcorn to watch

this tragedy unfold through its next phase with the different forces in this region coming into conflict in terms of each of their respective visions for what's supposed to happen in the area. Now there's quite a bit more I could go into in terms of possibilities that can't be confirmed, But I think that's the general picture. If I missed anything, Red Hawk, Pete, Stephen, but throw it in. Well, I'm kind of going big picture here, Oliver, if you don't mind.

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the globalist American Empire knocks out bathist or secular rulers. I think Saddam Hussein would fit in this category and maybe, I'm sorry, Gaddafi, right? And in their place, we usually get some kind of like radical brand of Islamic rule. And I'm probably forgetting other examples. just to make it simple, Oliver.

Why? Why does Israel slash U.S. Empire, I repeat myself, want that? Like, why better to deal with Nazi Islamic terrorist types than secular Ba'athist rulers or whatever? Well, in general, Ba'athism is a form of nationalism. It's basically, Pete probably knows. bit more about this. Somebody like Thomas knows quite a bit more about this, but Ba'athism is a movement that appeared on the heels of Ataturk, Mustafa Kamalpash's massive success in establishing Turkey as something like a military-guaranteed republic, shifting it with a great deal of tricks up its

in terms of framing what had always been an imperial sort of heterogeneous population as being Turks, right? In imposing a sort of nationalist identity on the former Ottoman Empire, it became necessary to kind of, you know, smear all kinds of groups together, Circassians, Turkmen, people of European descent, Kurds as well, in Turkey. But nevertheless, Adaturk had a great deal of success with it. And this idea of a republic built on a sort of nationalist framework and guaranteed by the military, in fact, it was so successful that you saw other players in the region take it up. So you had Nassar later in Egypt, who of course was causing all sorts of problems for Israel.

You had Saddam Hussein. you had the Assad group did it on this basis. So they want nationalism gone. Also, one of the major things that they do in order to split up countries is to leverage minority populations, or I should say exploit minority populations against the majority, or vice versa, you know, wherever it seems. That sounds familiar.

That sounds like a playbook they've been using for a long time. Yes. And with the Kurds in particular, you have to remember that with the Sykes-Pocco agreement and later sort of arrangements made by the British and the French and others, that you have to remember that that northeastern corner of Syria that you can see in the top left quadrant of the map there, on the map that's in the top left quadrant, but it's the top right quadrant in the Syria map. That's just one slice of the pie, so to speak, of the stateless. group of tribes that we call Kurds. There's another slice that overlaps with a significant portion of Turkish territory, a significant portion of Iranian territory, and a significant

portion of Iraqi territory. So the way that the map of nations were somewhat arbitrarily drawn in the region following World War I and planned during and before World War I, the Kurds were basically split up across these various states, which means that they're kind of like a lever that can be pulled by the West to destabilize any one of these countries in which there are a significant proportion of the population. I never thought of the Kurds is convenient, but I get it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, though they're certainly not convenient for the Iraqis, the Syrians, the Turks, or the Iran. Right, convenient from the point of view of the U.S. Empire. Yeah, yeah.

Yes, and so there's that. There's also quite a bit going on with energy, because you have the Gulf states, like the Emirates and the rest, Qatash, these countries want to get their energy out, and they're concerned because they've taken, to a considerable extent, particularly places like Qatash, they've set themselves up as being aligned with the U.S. more so than with Iran. and of course Iran has its own energy that it wants to ship out. And if you look at a map of the Persian Gulf, you will see that there at the straits at the mouth of the Persian Gulf going out into the wider waters, Iran can exercise influence there. So if something went down with Iran, the energy income, which is a primary source of revenue for the Emirates and the rest, if that gets shut down, they're screwed. So they want to be able to pipe their energy out to the West in some way that will not be subject to Iranian interdiction or in some fashion that won't get screwed up if the Western powers or Israel go to war with Iran. And in order to do that, they're going to have to go westward. And Turkey has a very rough country.

Turkey also has a pipeline already just north of the northern Syrian border. and it's been subject to many sort of terroristic and sabotage attacks over the years. So Qatar is looking for a way to go westward. And basically they want to get out to the Mediterranean or to find some other route. And for some time, it looked like they might be able to cut some deal and go through Syria. And that's a thing that the West more broadly might not want Turkey. certainly has it in its interest to make sure as many pipelines as possible flow through Turkish territory, you know, like ones coming from Azerbaijan, some of the ones that might still be carrying

Russian gas, they get up into places like Bulgaria, Moldova, and the rest. So there's a energy war. Also, you have to understand that over the last decade or so, it has become apparent that there are very, very significant gas and oil resources in the eastern Mediterranean Sea. And so if you look at this little map of Syria, and remember, this is pretty much the only major territory in the region that's aligned with Russia, you see how the map of Turkey shows that little peninsula, so to speak, of territory jutting southward along the coast. That's the province of Hatai. And then you see Lebanon there, which, you know, has created all kinds of problems for Israel.

Israel has likewise created all kinds of problems for Lebanon. So from Israel to the southern tip of the province of Hatai there, you have this whole section of Levantine coastline. And it has corresponding offshore claims to energy in that region. Now, if you were to look at a map of eastern Mediterranean gas and oil reserves, you'll see there are a whole bunch of them. and that Israel and Egypt have begun to exploit them. And there were plans prior to Biden coming into office for Israel and Egypt to run a pipeline over to Greece and then to Italy to run energy into the European Union. But Biden came into office and immediately shut that down because it would seem, you know, judging from things like his son's involvement with Burisma, judging from things about the enormous energy resources in the Black Sea.

Apparently, the idea was that the Brussels cadre, you know, allied with people like, you know, allied with the sorts of people that you would call it, you know, a Trudeau or a Clinton or an Obama. This whole crew wanted to put Europe on a more stable footing in terms of energy. And apparently they settled upon doing that with Ukraine. Now, of course, they'd also get all sorts of mineral deposits and Coke and coal and industrial production in the Dombas. But that seemed to have been the decision. Now what's happening is it looks like that might not turn out the way that Black Rock and Brussels and the city of London and the gay, so to speak, had wanted, which means they're going to have to find other ways to bring energy in. and Netanyahu had been doing quite a bit to have Israel involved in a major energy play.

They've been blocked by the Turks in some respects with things having to do with Cyprus. But I guess what I'm getting at here, I don't want to wind too far down this rabbit hole. But the point is that you're about to see eastern Mediterranean energy resources become important again, even though they were temporarily shut down by Biden, in terms of answering the sucking energy needs of Europe. It's likewise probably going to be a situation where Trump brings everything back online. Drill, baby, drill, baby drill. So they don't want a competitor like Russia who is going to be directly affected by all of this in Syria.

Certainly not along that coastal strip. Well, they're going to, I mean, Thomas made this point. I just released an episode a couple hours where we talked about this. Russia will go to war to keep those ports. sports they consider those ports to be strategic and they consider them to be absolutely essential. They'll go to war to keep those ports and that that seems to be their stance right now.

And they did in fact go to war to keep those ports because just to your point they intervened in Syria to protect those relationships and those ports because otherwise they're pushed out of this entire game. They're also involved in Libya and I don't want to spread this too far field, but you've got two factions, so to speak, two coalitions in Libya that are going back and forth, and that's all frozen at the moment. But all of that, Turkey signed to deal with Libya some years back with one of those governments claiming to have rights to these Eastern Mediterranean

resources. There's quite a bit going on with energy here. Now, I'm not, for my part, sure that Russia will stay and attempt to keep those. I think all things being equal, they want to, and they love to have them, and it will be a significant blow to them if they lose them. But there is also the issue of Sudan. Russia was trying to put a naval base in in Sudan, and then it all broke up into civil war in Sudan. And you've got the stuff going on in the Sahel as well. So all these things are related. It's tied to energy. Russia would like to keep those bases. If they can't, the one that they made agreements

with one of the competing Sudanese governments to set up will become much more important because they're trying to build their relationships in Africa. So I'm agreeing with Thomas, this is, and you, this is an important area Russia would like to keep it. I just don't know at this point if they can. It does seem likely that if the so-called rebels and HTS and Jolani and the rest,

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tip of Turkey at Hatai and Israel in the south. as being a problem in terms of long-term planning for how everything's going to fall out or develop in terms of the East Mediterranean energy, not least because if Israel can make this happen, you're going to have Israel with more territory, with its enemies push back further, and it's going to have a regular stream of income as an energy-producing country, not just answering its own energy needs, which is a significant strategic issue, right? because if, you know, as we all know, if Turkey had cut off the energy going to Israel, at any point over the last few years, it could have, like, really worsened the Israeli economic situation.

So if Israel gets on a secure footing in terms of producing its own energy offshore, that's a huge win for Netanyahu for Israel as well. But if they can also generate a large amount of income from exporting some proportion of that energy. And remember, if Israel is in that region doing it, they're slowly going to set themselves up in a position of more importance and a more centralized control in running the operations of neighboring countries like Egypt and Lebanon who have their own offshore resources. It'll basically be like, hey, you want to seat at the table, you want to play this game, you're going to have to go through Israel because we've got the relationships

to send it over to Europe. We have the meaningful veto. So all of these things are connected. I'm sorry that I go so far afield with it, but as soon as you start to scratch it, any one aspect of it, it connects to the other elements of the great game. Well, let's jump off energy for a second and let's talk about what most people would want to talk about. Arets Israel, they're doing this because they want the quote-unquote biblical land. They're already, they're in southern Syria right now. They post up maps of what they want all the time. But maybe you can speak to this a little bit, Oliver, since you know Turkey better than any of us. Erdogan goes on TV with maps all the time, too.

And he talks about taking parts of Iran, taking Kurdish Iraq. He talks about reinstating the Ottoman Empire. And it seems just as crazy as when Israel talks about how they're going to take Iraq, they're going to take all this, they're going to take Egypt. but you have these are obviously the two power players in this is Russia obviously took some kind of deal to stand down. Iran took some kind of deal to stand down. Turkey is Turkey is looking to take is taking parts of northern Syria. So are we seeing, are we entering into a, new age of, well, let's, this is what we were promised. This is what we were promised by Muhammad. This is what we were promised by Yahweh. We're going to just start taking land. Well, I mean, clearly we have entered that phase because they're all taking land. No doubt about

that. For me, Erdogan is a bit of a cipher. I was dismissive of him back in the day as being just sort of a basic tin pot dictator, and I have been forced to revise that, and I do so here publicly, because he has been very effective, very capable in resisting attempts to unseat him, and he is skillfully played the West against Powers further east. But I guess I should throw one more piece in here before we jump to the specific question you were asking, Pete. and that is that there are three major players here historically. You have Anatolia and the Hittites going way, way back. You have the Persians, whether it's Akamainids or Sassanids, right?

And then you have Egypt once upon a time. Those were the three great historical powers. I mean, for a time you had the Assyrians and the rest very early on, Babylon and the rest. But they ultimately ended up, that whole region ends up falling under the influence by turns or being partitioned by turns between these three powers, Egypt, or, you know, various forms of control in Egypt over the years. Anatoly, the Ottoman Empire, the Hittites, Turkey, whatever. Iran, you know, whether it's, whether it's Parthians or or Sassanids or Achaemenids and the rest. So there are really three major powers here.

Egypt less so these days and Israel is this new one but Israel is reliant upon its trade and its energy support and on money from abroad so it may become a very different picture here if Israel gets itself on a solid footing

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So Turkey, you know, they do things like the, what was that business with the Mavi Marmara, right, the blue marmora, the business of Turkish civilian flotillas going south in order to break the siege, so to speak, by sea of Gaza. you know, he's done all sorts of things that create a lot of buzz and that make it seem like that he's ready to woof, woof, woof against Israel, but he almost never does so. However, he's getting old and he's not going to be in power forever. I don't know who's going to replace him, and I don't know whether or not he might have some trick up his sleeve to restore this sort of Ottoman project in the region that he'll, that he'll, he'll pull out of his sleeve at the last minute, simply because what are you going to do to him

when he's an elder statesman who's not going to be around much longer? I expect he will be concerned with cementing some sort of legacy as a great figure as a Turkish leader. But for the time being, I can't read it. I was very interested to see that the Turkish back forces went after the Kurds pretty quickly. So, yeah, I don't know what, he's going to do. He certainly has a population

that he has to throw red meat to at intervals, talking about the situation with the Palestinians, but everything that he's done so far from ensuring that energy continues to flow to Israel, just the simple act of having taken Syria as he has

now at this time, has taken Gaza out of everyone's discussion and consideration at this point. So, I mean, he's, in terms of what he's done, you know, the purpose of a system is what it does applies here. He's helped Israel.

Now, the Israelis have to be concerned about this because they're going to share a border now. They don't have a buffer really between them and Sunni jihadist forces, as they once did. It's all right up on them. And so, you know, it could be a bad situation for them. Another concern is with Iran. A number of these, Iranish Shiite, of course, Iraq, as you will all know, was formerly controlled by a Sunni minority, the Baathists. But they have a Shiite majority, and Iraq is more or less closely allied with Iran now. And there are Kurdish groups who aren't, PKK and YPG, that are more aligned with the Iranians.

And so there is the possibility of people being able to come back in and reenter this domain from the east, the largest group of Syrian soldiers that escaped from Syria across the border, I believe a division of them, complete with equipment, into Iraq. And if you look back at the history of things like the Allies fights with Rommel in North Africa, you know that in these vast sort of open spaces, of course, This is the Levant, not North Africa. But if you look at that history, you'll see that they just thundered across the entire northern coast, North Africa in one direction, and then would get turned around and push back in the other direction,

only to come back again. So ground can be crossed here fairly quickly. Though the situation has changed quite a bit with ISR capabilities and, you know, the ability to bomb these forces as they move. but I don't think the book is closed on this. I think that the Israelis, yes, are going for a greater Israel. Thus far, Erdogan has basically assisted them explicitly or implicitly by accident or by design thus far pretty consistently,

but that might change. You also have a very worked-up Muslim population in Turkey. They're also concerned about sending. Syrian refugees back into Syria. I don't see how they're going to be able to do that any time in the near future. There's also the possibility that there could be major further destabilization inside Turkey, depending on how aggressive they get with going after the Kurds, because YPG, PKK has a long history of conducting major terrorist attacks inside Turkey.

So it's a mess, and I cannot clearly see what will happen next. I'm going to bring in a very strange analogy on this one that this map has reminded me of, and interesting comparisons for today. If anyone went back and played the original Rome Total War, the hardest faction to play in that game was always the Seleucid Empire, because in the early game, the other factions around you, the Egyptians, the Pontic states, the Armenians, Parthians, they all want to expand.

It's way too costly for you to start buying ships, early game to expand overseas. So if you're going to expand, you're going to expand into Syria into the Salukin Empire because everyone wants a piece of it. It's surrounded by all sides. It seems like we have another repeat of that today where everyone wants a piece of Syria. Now, what's interesting for me in this case is the time frame of this, December in 2024, shortly before the Trump administration is coming into office. And no doubt this is another fire for the Trump administration to put out one of the country. comes in pretty soon. And obviously, they've wanted to take care of Assad for quite some time.

My question here is, gentlemen, is it seems like if they could have just done this whenever they wanted to, which is what it kind of seems like to me, I mean, the time frame has to be questioned. You know, because, I mean, this took like a week for Assad to fall, and they've been trying to get rid of him for a decade at this point since Obama's days, if not earlier. So the time frame is what's interesting to me. obvious that it was a grand conspiracy and that the SAA stood down, did very, had very little, uh, there's very little resistance. There's no way that rebel groups, if rebel groups could have taken,

if they could have taken the country, they would have done it long ago. This was some behind the scenes stuff, real, you know, dirtbag shit that happened where they just basically, everyone decided to give a sod up, you know, and now he gets to go. to Russia and oh I can announce here he's going to be on my podcast uh promoting his new podcast next week no I'm just kidding um yeah obviously that he was just given up he was he was a chess piece that they could take off the board whenever they wanted and it was his time to go off the board and that's it so um but I did want to a lot of people have been asking about you know the

Christian communities in Syria and our our buddy Hunger the die merchant has he has people all over the place over there so I just wanted to read a very quick thread that he had if that's okay about what's going on in Syria with the Christians he said just just a quick update some of the Christians in Syria about of some of the Christians from my personal sources one things are for the most part it's hence calm there's plenty of fear going around, but the worst has not come to pass and possibly the situation will improve. He said, in almost every Christian village, particularly in the Wadi, which is the valley of the Christians, there's a Muslim government supervisor to keep tabs on people and resolve any disputes

to village priests are cooperating with the authorities. The towns are under strict curfew, freedom of movement is limited, but this may be temporary given the current security situation. New government is aggressively going after collaborators of the Assad regime in these Christian areas and many are either in hiding or have fled to Lebanon. There is currently a debate happening whether Christmas and the new government on whether Syrian Christians will be allowed to publicly celebrate Christmas. Initially, the answer was yes, but that same day, churches outside of Hamas were broken into and ransacked by Muslim gangs.

He says the situation is still fluid. Many people are rightly fearful for the future. The information only applies to my sources in the Wadi and Hamas region. I don't know how bad the situation is for Christians in Damascus or Aleppo, but I ask you to continue to pray for them. So that's a, for people who are wondering about the Christian population, that comes from our buddy hunger. Yeah, and there is a stream he did with Hitman covering some of the historical background for this. I watched it the other day. It's quite good. You should have a look. There's also a stream on the historical situation of the Christians in the Middle East that I did with Apostolic Majesty.

And then he and I just did a follow-up on that in the last couple days discussing background on this and the likely situation for them. I drone on about the geopolitics a bit as well. But AM very capably covers the historical aspects. You can see that on Apostolic Majesty's channel. The one thing I'd point out is that we should all be looking at Lebanon. because if I were, you know, among the Israeli strategic planners, I would immediately be looking to carry my momentum forward to resolve the situation in Lebanon, not least because there are disputed areas of offshore energy resources between Israel and Lebanon. Also, to Pete's point about it very likely having been something behind the scenes, I tend to agree. with Pete on this completely.

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Because it's not like it just became this horrible mess. As I said, it's been frozen in this fashion as a horrible mess for more than a decade, or for at least a decade. Another possibility is that there's the plans that have been discussed for quite some time now is Iran and Russia signing mutual defense treaties formally, rather than just sort of helping out Subroza, similar to what was just signed between North Korea and Russia. And it may well be, I've speculated anyway,

that for Russia to sign that kind of a treaty with Iran publicly, while Iran is still able to supply forces in Lebanon against Israel, is just a recipe for disaster. You know, the international Zionist supporters and the United States could create, all sorts of problems and Russia could see itself drawn into a mess that it couldn't get out of. Whereas if Iran has effectively been cut off physically from supplying Hezbollah, then it might be a situation where they could then turn around and bring Iran in

under their nuclear umbrella with a defense treaty and that would remove any need for Iran to develop its own nuclear weapons. That's just speculation. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but those sort of two possibilities are ones that could overlap. They're not mutually exclusive, and it could explain what we're seeing happen here. I've often wondered, you know, there was a call that many people have discussed between Erdogan and Putin that happened just prior to this whole movement

of the quote-unquote rebel forces out of Idlib. And I've thought to myself, was that necessarily something like, like Erdogan calling up Putin and saying, hey, I'm sorry, man, but I have to do this. I've got Kurdish problems. I'm going in.

It could have just as easily. It's just speculation. I'm not saying it's the case, but I've seen nothing to rule out the possibility that Putin said, hey, Erdogan, if you want to do it, this is your chance because we've decided to back out. And that fits the model here

as effectively as any of the others, given the information that I'm aware of. So yes, I do think something was being planned behind the scenes, and it may be, well, as I put it in one of my tweets, you know, if you create a vacuum, well, it will suck in both respects. It will both pull you in and it will suck for you if you're the ones now who have to police this and maintain this and deal with the problems that could eventuate. But we just have to see what comes

next. We may literally never know what backroom deals led to this. Right? Many such cases, right? Well, this is a very expansive discussion on this topic.

As we move on to our next topic discussing Tucker Carlson's recent discussion with Sergei Labarov. Final thing I'll say about this one is old AA, he needs to update his dictator top Trump's card for Bashar al-Assad.

His longevity card is officially come home to Roos now. So he needs to do a little update on that. But yeah, so this actually came out just before our stream last week, so we didn't have chance to talk about it. We made a brief allusions to it, but I figured

we'd actually have a dedicated segment to talking about Tucker Carlson's interview with Sergei Lavaev. now I sat down and watched this whole thing I know Oliver did too Pete I think you did maybe yeah I watched the whole thing yeah yeah so I suppose we could just go through

and pick out some of the important parts I think right at the start the thing that stuck out to me the most right away was this is something I've been bringing up a couple of times on previous streams the complete irresponsibility of American politicians most notably

Lindsey Graham who Lavaoff actually mentions by name during this interview with Carlson about how Lindsay Graham just goes on unhinged rants about like completely ethically cleansing Russians out of certain sections of Ukraine on Fox News

and of course like the Russians are reacting to that as a direct threat which it is you know like Americans politicians can't just go on TV and say outlandish things about foreign powers and foreign wars and not expect you know other countries to be like

oh, he was just kidding, bro. You know, it's just so unbelievably irresponsible. So that was one of the major things that stuck out to me. I don't know, let's go around the horn here. What else? Really stick out to you guys. I've got a couple other points, but I don't know. Oliver, Pete, you guys want to throw out some of your takes on this one?

Good, Oliver. Well, I mean, it's just a diplomatic mess. Lavarov, as we all know, is very much an elder statesman in Russia. and you can expect that he's going to come in and lay down the Russian positions as he did. One of the things that was very notable about this discussion that he had, and to turn this heater off, it's blowing in the background. Sorry. One of the very notable things about how he approached things was he never gave what was his opinion.

Whenever a question was asked about what the Russian position was, he very circumspectly and consistently would answer by saying Putin has already addressed this in his discussion at blah blah, blah during such and such he said X, Y, and Z. So Lavrov is basically coming in with the standard points that have already been made by the Russian establishment via Putin himself. there is another aspect of this, which is that we've seen in the past when Carlson, for example, went and spoke to Putin.

He seemed to be trying to get this guy publicly to lock himself into some kind of position based on answers to questions that he gave with the last interview with Putin. When Tucker did it, he seemed to be very much focused on whether or not Putin would be willing to agree for the exchange of certain prisoners, intelligence prisoners, possible spies and the rest. And Putin wouldn't be drawn into that.

He would not allow himself to have any sort of public position established for himself that would lock him into doing things in a particular way in the future. And I think that there's something to Tucker going and doing these interviews that is beyond the simple need for the alternative points of view to be shown. I think Tucker Carlson is someone who has developed for himself or had developed for him, this position as someone who's able to go and talk to these people directly. And so you would expect intelligence services to task him to ask or to push on certain questions in order to see if anything could be drawn forth in terms of, you know, what do the Russians really want? What are you willing to accept? How can we resolve this? And to get public positions about that on record, we, you know, I believe that Carlson was saying back in the day he had wanted to work for the CIA and his parents.

had some, I think his father played some kind of role, working in, was it working in journalism, but also being tied to the government. So I don't think... He was what? Say again? The head of radio for Europe. Well, yeah, well, there you go. So I don't think that we should think of Tucker Carlson just as being a journalistic figure

trying to figure out what's going on. I think he has a mandate to go and do some things and figure out what he can in certain respects. I'm not sure I actually followed the question you had originally asked Red Hawk there. So if I miss something, please direct me back to it. I tend to wander all over the place. No, we're just talking about things that stuck out to us during this interview. Yeah, there's the Ereshnik stuff, which is interesting, too.

Sorry, Pete, go ahead. Well, there's two things. One from the interview, right off the jump, Tucker asked him if he considered the United States to be an enemy. And he wouldn't answer the question. He basically said no. And then they came back to that. They circled back to that at the end. And he seemed to be more, well, you know, this, this, you know, qualifying and everything. Here's something I haven't heard anyone say. This interview dropped right as Russia is basically hanging. Syria out to dry. Was this some kind of

distraction to try to get Lavrov to come on here and talk about what is going on with Russia and he talks about everything that they're dealing with in Ukraine, all this all over. And then there was really nothing about what's happening in Syria, nothing in Syria.

It almost seems like it could have been a distraction in that way as well. Well, there definitely was There was one little interesting bit that I noted at the time, which was Tucker trying to ask Lavrov about what parties he thought were behind what was beginning to unfold in Syria at that moment. And, you know, all of us watching the obvious answer would have been that Turkey was among them. And Lavrov very circumspectly refused to mention Turkey at all. and when Tucker pressed him on it he said well you know people are saying I can't be sure but people are saying that Israel's involved and the United States and there are just many players

involved here and we can't be sure and so it was easy at the time to set that aside and say well he because of the Astana process you know he was I think the very following day or in the next couple days he was going to doha and to meet with Iranian and Turkey Turkish leaders under the Astana process as established. The idea was that Iran and Turkey and Russia would meet with each other at intervals to stabilize the situation there and ensure the survival of Syria with its existing borders and all the rest. So you could say, well, he's a diplomat.

He's about to go negotiate with the Turks. Why would he try to stick a finger in the eye of the Turks prior to going to do that? It doesn't serve his interests. But if Turkey was in some sense cooperating with Iran and Russia, it would make sense for Lavrov not to have named them explicitly. I don't think we're going to know what's going on there with that, in that respect, until we see whether or not Turkey has any success with the sort of roadmap it's laid out for its to become a sort of associate of the BRICS nations. If they get snubbed badly since Iran is already a member, then Russia and Iran are not interested in it.

Then you could say to yourself, well, it's at least possible that they're pissed off about what Turkey did. But if Turkey continues to move forward with that process, it would seem that maybe Iran and Russia aren't all that pissed off about it. You could also just say it makes it stupid. economically to lead money on the table, regardless of whether you're pissed off with this other country. But I suspect that if they do go forward with it and Turkey continues to get closer to the bricks, that it's at least a possible signal that they've worked some things out beforehand.

And I just did see something on the Twitter timeline about how Iran and Turkey have just signed some sort of major economic deal, which, you know, would be a bit of. bit strange if Iran was really pissed off about all that stuff. Then again, on the other hand, you could come and say, well, Iran has been suffering from sanctions for so long. It needs to get its economy on a more solid footing, so they really don't have a choice. I don't know, but those are, that's a little bit that I think is worth pointing out. I suppose the other huge thing that we should talk about that came out of this interview is the discussion of back channels between the United States and Russia. Of course, in any diplomatic relationship,

you're not going to discuss everything between nations and public at these big gatherings at the UN or any other conventions. I mean, one of the other things that Lavaarov mentioned is that basically all the Westerners just snob him right to his face when they're at all these gatherings. I mean, it really just is the theater kid occupied government we talk about all the time. It's just like, you know, backstabby-bitching politics. Like, oh, we can't be seen in the same room with this guy, you know, because, you know, big, bad Russia, evilmen. or what have you, but the back channel communications, they're either they're not discussing with each other, or it's the exact same thing that the Americans are saying in public

as that they are saying in the back channels. It's like, why you even have these, which is just unbelievably irresponsible. Again, I remember Charlie mentioned this last week, and I was just gobsmacked by it. It was like, holy shit. How do you do something like that? It's wild.

It's hilarious since historically the internet exists because of back channels, between the two countries. That's why it was created. But, yeah, we were saying before we went live, these people walking away from Lavrov, I mean, we don't have ambassadors, you know, we don't have Charles Freeman's anymore, you know, we don't have these guys who can actually carry on a conversation.

Most of these ambassadors ships are sinecures given to people who, I mean, Kimberly Gilfoyle is going to be the ambassador to Greece. What are ambassadors anymore? Don Jr. needs a new girlfriend, you know? That's why they got rid of them. I think they already broke up, actually. But I mean, it's

who would want to talk to him? He's going to make, he's going to make you. Thomas 777 could have a much more interesting conversation with Sergei Lavrov than the U.S. ambassador to Russia. Whoever the hell that is. I don't know, who is that? Somebody who worked at church or something? Previously.

Yeah, evidently being the dominant empire in the world, having all this money and all the things that they tell us how great the U.S. empire is, doesn't result in us being able to, like, have knowledgeable statesmen that have a good background and understand things in the world. Like, evidently, that's too expensive for us to afford. You just set your standards way too high, Stephen. come on now. We can't expect that.

Come on. Anything else we want to say, concluding this interview between two of them? No, you know, when you... Nothing. Yeah, when you really go back over it, there was a lot of nothing. There was maybe a good 15 minutes

out of the whole thing that, you know, you can pick out and be like, oh, that's interesting. But I'm going to stand by it. It was a distraction of some sort. And that doesn't mean Tucker even had to be in on it. You know, Lavrov could have been like, oh, okay,

You have the interview now, and it's just basically distracts people from what they're about to do in the Middle East. Yeah, not really to add myself. I think Pete's right. It's very likely that you had a distraction. Or it's not, yeah, it's not exactly a distraction. It's, I mean, it is, but it's more like, here's something to look at. And it does carry a sort of narrative or charge that it's like, well, at least we're having. this diplomatic discussion, right? At least communication has been opened up, you know,

especially when you contrast the discussion that they had that the public is privy to, with the idea that the actual people charged with engaging in diplomacy are not doing their job and that as bad as it looks to us on the front end, it's just as bad on the back end. So part of it may just be that this is an opening. Let's talk to Russia. and see if Lavrov says anything interesting, but Lavrov is just so, I mean, he's been doing it for so long and is obviously so skillful and experienced with it

that you would expect only to get diplomatic answers. I mean, literally, these are diplomatic answers. And so, you know, I wouldn't expect any sort of massive revelation in the course of them. No. like we were saying just the main takeaway

is just a comparison between this guy and anyone working in the State Department in the United States well it's just night and day comparison and you can just tell

immediately just by the way the guy talks so why don't we move on we'll tackle another topic and then we'll catch up on some super chats so as the title

of the stream suggests today the white man is back Daniel Penny has been acquitted of his manslaughter charge and all those other charges. So the man is walking free, which is, uh,

I've got to say, uh, good for this guy. He's the first ever alpha Chad to rock the block, the broccoli hair, uh, pretty well. So, um, good for him. Uh, he went to a bar afterwards and was celebrating, uh, you know, drinking the day away, which I certainly would have in, uh, his situation. But it was a bit of a nail bit of a nail biter. Uh, I know a lot of people had, uh, mixed feelings on this one. If, um, he was going to get charged, if we were going to have, you know, um, um,

the like the Ferguson effect and the Floyd effect coming in full swing once again on this one. But no, justice was served in this case and now there are rumors going around that his lawyers are going to return fire, as it were, at the corrupt prosecutors that brought this case forward in the first place. Well, I mean, it was something that we were, I was talking with Stormy about in an episode we just recorded was, everybody because they have to make this a black and white thing if you ever watch the video

I mean when he takes the guy to the ground who helps him these three black guys jump up and start holding the arms and the legs of holding this guy down I know did they literally like crop the photos that most people saw so you couldn't tell that those

black guys were right there with him I don't know about the photos but I mean I've seen the video and they yeah Yeah, yeah. It's so easy to see that, but it's just so easy to overlook. I mean, when you, when you have the reins of the narrative, when you can control the narrative, you can make it into anything you want. You really have to wonder in an environment where it seems like people are realizing that justice, they're not going to get justice. and some people are taking justice into their own hands, whether, you know, this weak, this district attorney, who I'll save my normal rant and not say anything, and this, you know, this horrible judge. I mean, you have to wonder whether they're like, okay, what, what can happen to us? Are we in danger if this, if this goes through? You know, dropping the first charge, dropping. the, what was that a manslaughter charge? Yeah, they dropped it because the jury was so hung, they weren't going to get a conviction.

And so in an attempt to at least get him on something that just shows how evil these people were in this case, they dropped that charge, trying to get him on the lesser ones. Oh, well, maybe the jury will all agree on, maybe some lesser ones if we dropped the big ones. But they didn't, they quitted him on that, thank God. Well, isn't that another white pill that there was a jury in New York that was hung on this? I mean, you would think, you know, we think about the OJ jury and other juries like that, that just, or the Derek Chauvin jury, well, that didn't happen in this case. So, I mean, maybe this is a sign that things are, you know, things are making a turn back in the right direction, at least, you know, I guess, you know, it's these days,

hope is a thing that is when you have it, a lot of times you're disappointed. When you have it, a lot of people accuse you of just coping, you know, because, especially if it doesn't go your way, but you know, I just tell those people go fuck themselves. But maybe things are, maybe things are turning. I mean, if this can happen in New York, it can happen anywhere. Derry nullification can happen in New York City.

It can happen. Yeah, it's one of the, The Derek Chauvin versus Daniel Penny cases, like, in a way, it sounds like they're kind of parallel in this sense that the black guy who died in both cases, I think there were a lot of drugs involved. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Toxology was off the charts in both cases. And in both cases, I don't think they, well, actually, I don't remember on the Derek Chauvin case, but he didn't actually die while being held down with Daniel Penny, right? he died a bit later. So it seems like really parallel, which makes me wonder, why did we get one result in one case and a different result in the other? I mean, is it literally because Trump got elected? You know what I mean?

That seems a little. I think a lot of people are obviously really fed up. I mean, if we are to bring up comparisons between, you know, Pete mentioning maybe the page is turning, so to speak. I saw a lot of people who didn't really. have their thumb on the pulse with this one, claiming that, oh, there's going to be major chimpouts and riots all over the country over this one. And of course, there was nothing, which was obvious to anyone who's really been paying attention recently. Like, the energy of

all these, you know, huge riots and, you know, street protests is, it's just gone. You know, I don't think you're going to see any of this stuff for quite some time. Yeah, but did that actually changed the result of the trial in the two cases? Did that swing the result? That's sort of something I'm puzzling over. And if so, was it the jury that was different? Was it the court? Because, like, I think in the Derek Chauvin case, they literally held back all the evidence that would be,

how do you say, exculpating or whatever for Chauvin. They didn't let them see the toxicology report, right? They kind of, they did. He didn't really get a fair trial, is my understanding. Yeah, well, I would also throw in another consideration, which is that what we were talking about, previously was the summer of Floyd. And what we're talking about here is the winter of Penny.

And you can't get large, even when you pay them. And I am convinced that there's absolutely nothing that was grassroots about the summer of Floyd, nor about any of these events that we saw during the period when Trump was in office and they were mobilizing vast numbers of people to get out on the streets and show their asses. I don't believe that that was grassroots for a moment. So the one aspect is it's just really hard to get large numbers of black people out on the streets in cold weather, regardless of whether you pay them. And the other thing is I think it comes down to people being willing to pay for it.

And for whatever reason, you know, the Soros types didn't seem to be willing or able in this case. I don't know which it is. probably willing though I would assume they didn't seem willing or able to mobilize their forces which raises questions there as well I'm a big fan of former Pony Express radio guest Charles Haywood and Charles said that he believed that come December you'd see some kind of coup attempt

on Trump to keep him out and December is not over but we certainly don't even, I don't think anyone's feeling any kind of vibe towards that, which is interesting. Yeah, what we see is everyone, world leaders, domestic folks, everyone's just adjusting for a world of Trump. Now, back to the Syria thing briefly, it sure seems like they're hurrying

and trying to get certain things done before January 20th, right? But that's not like, that again would be a sign of, yeah, Trump's coming. So if we're going to do this, we better do it now. Yeah, I tend to think that, well, one of my hypotheses, I can't prove it, it's all my raw speculation. And I've been dramatically wrong in the past. So your mileage may vary. No reason to accept this.

But one of the most useful explanatory models I've tried to apply to all of this is the idea that there is a deep state. and the deep state really doesn't want Trump at all and really does want to destroy him. But there is a deeper state for whom it was perfectly reasonable to have Biden come into office, even greatly desirable, and for whom it was likewise greatly desirable, to have this very plausible, very believable public spectacle, witnessed by everyone across the world of one administration, absolutely trying to destroy the incoming one.

Because you bring in someone like Biden, who appears to be mentally greatly compromised, who doesn't seem to actually be running the country at all. And you bring him in, and you have a whole period where the United States can do things with a certain degree of plausible deniability, if they can back out of it. They can reach accommodations later without their reputation being destroyed forever if you have another administration come in that was seemingly attacked and denigrated in every possible respect by the previous one.

You can say, what? We didn't do that. That was the previous guys. And we all know how evil they are. And, you know, obviously I wasn't a part of it. Not me, not Trump. I don't have anything to do with this because these people were just trying to destroy me. So I'm happy to come in and try to reach accommodations now and focus on peace.

And none of this on, first off, again, it's just a hypothesis. I'm not saying it's correct. And none of it, I should add, is, it should be taken as me suggesting that Trump is necessarily in on it. Although I wouldn't say that he's necessarily not in on it either. It just seems to me that this was too useful. You get to run this crazy experiment of starting a lot of. land war in Europe on its eastern borders with Russia. And you get this whole thing of driving the Palestinians out, attempting to ethnically cleanse them,

going a long way towards that, seizing territory in Syria, all these sorts of things. And then Trump can just come in and say, that wasn't on my watch. And as a consequence, the relationship of the United States to all these countries, many of which were directly affected by this, you get wiggle room. You can say, well, that wasn't us. Yeah, Oliver, it always comes to mind, you know, just the timing of big events like this and incoming administrations. I understand there's questions about how exactly the Iran hostage crisis was the timing of that, how that was resolved, evidently. Yeah, that was stalled.

Yeah, they stalled it on Carter and then gave it to Reagan as a win, if I remember correctly, right? came out. On inauguration day, 1981. Oh, it's literally on an... Okay, I thought it was like, yeah. Which is like crazy. In his inauguration speech.

Wow. Yeah, it just suggests to me that there is a deep continuity somewhere and because I don't believe that they were just pretending to go after Trump. I think they were really going after Trump, which requires me to hypothesize

that there's a deeper, older group that's more quiet. more powerful and less stupid that it's suited to allow this group to come in, which would go a long way towards answering questions about why, you know, when a whole group of states affected

by the election, which I personally view as having been, well, fortified, you have a whole group of attorneys general from these states coming in and going to the Supreme Court and saying, what the hell? And the Supreme Court says, you have no standing.

I mean, the sheer number of things that people could have been screwed for that were going on in terms of all the attacks on Trump that no one has ever been brought to account for. I mean, you know, a few people from the FBI get, you know, fired, you know, I wonder whether or not they got their little, you know, severance package or whatever. I mean, nothing happened to anyone. So it seemed like, it seemed like a perfect interregnum period with, with associative. plausible deniability. Again, don't know it, just guessing I have no idea I'm not read in on a damn thing.

Well, I just want to say that thinking about Reagan's inauguration in 1981, I want to know what Trump's going to give us on January 20th. Come on. I mean, at least all the, well, I guess it's already been said that the January 6th folks, it's going to be like case by case and they're going to take forever, whatever, right? rather than him getting up there and saying, yeah, that's done. They're out. We ought to at least get that, preferably something even more exciting. Well, time will tell on that case, right? Yeah. And on his way, one last thing, sorry, Red Hawk, on his way out,

it looks like if this is all true, what I saw going by on extra Twitter or whatever, Biden came in and, like, pardoned two Chinese spies and one Chinese guy who, one Chinese guy who apparently had a bunch of, petto shit on his computer. I guess what came out from that is that they did it a prisoner exchange, apparently. So they, so, like, they attached, like, the pardon, which, like, goes away if they ever come back to the United States, apparently. What I was reading more about that, so they did, like, an exchange with the Chinese,

you know, for these two guys. But, yeah. So, of course, they're going to try and get everything out of the way before Trump comes on. and, you know, sandbag the current administration, or the incoming administration. But I guess just in conclusion, I'll say this, when we got the announcement of this case on Monday,

it was a nice white pill. It was a nice, you know, recovery for all the troops, as it were, because the last month on Twitter has just been dog shit since Trump's election. So Monday when we got the Daniel Penny announcement was really like the first day, it would have been fun on Twitter since Election Day.

So that was really nice. Nice morale boosting moment for everyone. So good for Daniel Penny, walks out free man. Black Pillars see Canadian health care. Yeah, absolutely. So nice work to Daniel Penny. I hope he sues these people. I hope he gets a shitload of money for it.

And he gets to live the rest of these days thinking of ways to destroy the current regime. So nice. work on that front. Well, we have another case we'll be looking at in a moment here, but we must fire away on some of these super chats that have come in from our lovely viewers in the chat. So starting at the top, we got Solid Snake, 1964. You know, he's been coming in, I think he's becoming like the first super chat of the last couple streams. He's encroaching on your territory seasider. You've got to get back to it and be in there first with your salutes every week. You're slacking a little bit, sir. But thank you, Solid Snake, for coming in first as a

always for five bucks he says evening gents been up with all the wichita lads uh this last saturday and an awesome time hoping to get together again sometime soon do you guys see that it's iran's drones flying around new jersey lindsay graham hopes they are anyway salute the ojc yeah that's that's just when you've been around long enough uh you just know immediately when the stories are fake news and man oh man is that a huge one i i just do not give a shit about that story at all Everyone's talking about it. All the Tim Pools and, you know, Normie Khan people in the world are saying, oh my God, it's the UFO.

It's like, I legitimately don't give a shit about this story at all. I could not care less. Let's move on to Zenrath. They're demons. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Zenrath for five bucks. Good white boy winter, say it back. Yeah.

Corbyn'n for 20 bucks. Will Red Hawk see the Craven the Hunter movie? Seems there was more gore in the trailer for Craven than All Gladiator, too. I can't remember the last time I went to a theater to see a movie. I mean, actually, or shall I say a new movie? I went and saw him die hard last year for the 30th anniversary. And I'm in theaters. So I got to say that.

That would be nice. I missed that it was in theaters. That sounds like that. Yeah. Yeah. So I got to see that last Christmas, which was really fun. But, yeah, I mean, I just don't go to the movies anymore. No, it's just not enjoyable.

Let's see. Pete Buttigast for five bucks. Saad's ousting seems like power brokering. The West gets to declare victory before a deal is made on Ukraine where Russia gets what it wants. Maybe. I mean, Charlie gave us a long exposition last week on his concerns about the Trump administration with negotiations for a settlement for Russia or Ukraine. I don't know. Time will tell on this one.

But, you know, it's definitely not an impossibility. Let's move on to Jay for $10. bucks. Have people listen to Mark Andreessen on the free press podcast. He's an elite well-versed in our spheres, elite theory, especially. He recommends the Machiavellians as his most actionable book. Yeah, we're pretty aware of Andresen. Yes.

He follows a number of us. Lately he's been, at first it seemed like he was sort of like quietly following. But lately, it seems like he'll pretty much just, as the super chatter here indicates, he'll just share some of the kind of stuff that we're interested in straight up you know so yeah he's paying attention he's got he's got me blocked the fuck he may he may he may even listen to some of us yeah yeah maybe wouldn't uh yeah exactly can't confirm nor did i yeah um uh screwed up texas for ten bucks says christ's risen salute yeah indeed christmas season uh is coming up birth of baby jesus so thank you very much

screwed up Texas and the I always like seeing the salute gang showing up in the chat so nice work fellas Chief Sling and Beef for 10 bucks

pray for me brothers I'm gonna take a voyage to the foreign land of Nashville tomorrow on my effing birthday nonetheless I hate that town

with a passion now I always found the traffic there has just been a nightmare the last couple years I must walk among the jeats and the Californians

I guess that's a good point too a lot of people are moving there it's like the fastest growing city in the country now, I think. Um, last I read about it. Uh, well, yeah, they seem, they seem resolved to destroy Tennessee, which is a real tragedy.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the, the, the, the traffic in that place is just absolutely insane now. Uh, let's see. Uh, city break dancer, man. What a great name. Appreciate the stream. Boys. Just stopped in, uh, to drop some love.

We'll listen tomorrow. I'll thank you for all the replay. gang guys listen to us after um 10 p uh seaside for 10 bucks sends a salute thank you as always my friend and son of hastor from up in the new Ivy League sends us five bucks all-star lineup fellas a salute

thank you very much and uh jack for five bucks says it may not be white but boy do I know what's right all right cool thank you appreciate it um well fellas speaking of another case that's been going on uh in the city of New York we have a new updates as it relates to the healthcare CEO assassination. The alleged killer has been taken into custody. Luigi, was it Mangione or something like that?

Yeah, I think that's right, Mangione. Yeah. I guess they extradited him from, what was it, Pennsylvania to New York? I was going to say Club Tropical Excellence, but yeah, yeah. So they extradited him from... It does look like that, Red Hawk. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, so they, uh, extra item brought them back.

I don't know, as we've been talked about this story quite a bit every night on Mr. D's Twitter spaces whenever we've had a chance. And I mean, it definitely seems to me as we get more info about this, this guy just had an ayahuasca trip and just completely lost his brain and went all schizo posting. We got a picture here of, this guy basically is doing, like, hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, you know, numerology basically, like the secret to everything is the number 286. Well, so that's a little odd. I mean, yeah, look, he's even got the Pokemon ReLume in his Twitter avatar, which is Pokedex entry 286. And, yeah, I don't know. This one's just getting weirder and weirder as we learned more about it.

There's a thread going around that I saw today that hypothesizes some sort of relationship. between the Pelosi's, you know, notorious wealth generation through stock trading based on insider knowledge, something having to do with a massive data breach with United Healthcare and apparently some legal action taken against United Healthcare and the fact that this Luigi Mangione's family, according to this thread, I haven't followed up or checked any of it. According to this thread, they're a very wealthy family in Maryland. So playing in the same sandbox as part of the Pelosi gang, and that they made their money with health care.

Apparently they run a whole series of elder care homes called Lorien. So, and they point out that apparently Luigi Mangione was heading north from Atlanta to New York. several days prior to this conference, which hadn't been announced, which would suggest some sort of insider knowledge on his part in terms of the event happening in the first place. Though the thread is set forth as though it reveals some sort of secret connection, it's just a bunch of sort of circumstantial stuff at this point. But it does suggest there might be more going on here. Might be, I don't know, might be more going on here than a bad ayahuasca trip.

Well, what do you think, Oliver, anyone going for the story that he's a Patsy and he didn't actually kill the guy and they just, he was, you know, kind of crazy. And so they figured they could put him up as the guy who did it. Yeah, I don't know. I think I may have seen, I've seen that at least hinted at, if not said explicitly. I just, I'm in no position to know. I haven't followed it very closely. I mean, one of the more interesting things that have come out of this is just the comparison of this guy to Thomas Matthew Crooks in the sense. of within a week, we know basically everything about this guy, where he went to school,

whose family are, what he liked to do in his spare time, he had a back injury, so we know his medical history, you know, his family, his family's wealth, and then you look at Thomas Matthew Crooks and we literally know nothing about the guy at all. So that kind of suggests to me if there's something, you know, darker at foot here, they would just memory hold this and, you know, just no point to be even talking about it. It all just seems odd from the beginning. I mean,

it was like the, you know, the killing was making a statement with how many bullets he fired the way he did it, the way he set it up. If it is him, I don't know. My friend Paz always says,

don't stare directly into the op. Everything is an op. Don't stare directly. You have to look around. So, you know, all I know is, you know, somebody who basically used socialist and Marxist and communist means to enrich a few people, a CEO of a health care company, and also defrauded a fire. Who was defrauding a fire, a fireman's pension, something like that. Caught some bullets that I'm supposed to care. Yeah.

Well, this has been like the main argument, right, that has been... Violence. The supreme authority from which all other authority is derived. Yeah. Well, that's a nice combination of Starship Troopers and Fight Club there for you. Never thought I'd see the day. But, I mean, that really has been the whole crux of the argument, right? This whole week is, you know, like, I've seen, like, takes.

So I want to, we'll call it, let's, let's call it more of like the finalist crowd, like, take saying that, you know, like, hey, isn't this more or less what you want? You know, it's like the bearer violence necessary for change. And it's like, no, not like that. Well, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, a lot of people have no problems when a bunch of people chimp out in a city because you can hide from that. if you have one person who sets their sights on you, you can't hide from that. They're going to get you. I mean, that certainly was the thing that stuck out to me immediately when this whole story first kicked off was the fact that it's nice to have the idea out there that nobody is untouchable, right? And that's what I was implying about the DA and the judge in Daniel Penny's case.

I mean, I think the thing to make most note of with this story is if this guy, the victim I'm talking about, was the CEO of any other industry. It's like a, you know, like a Ford CEO or a tech CEO or something like that. that the story definitely wouldn't have caught fire the way it did. I mean, everyone is talking about this because it's healthcare. Because everybody on all sides of the aisle knows that the healthcare industry in America is corrupt, exploitative, and fucked up beyond all recognition at all levels, and everyone is pissed off about it. I'm not saying, like, what this guy did is, like, a good thing.

Obviously, murder is wrong, and we don't want, you know, street violence and vigilantism and such, but the hell is... You're explaining why, as people were observing, somebody was saying, you know, left wing, right wing, all kinds of people are kind of having this similar reaction. So, so yeah, this is, it seems to sort of be a nonpartisan issue. It struck a nerve with a lot of people because, like, who likes dealing with insurance companies? We all know they're fucked up. We all know they're breaking the law every day and nothing is done about it. I mean, the gayest part of this whole thing is that as soon as it happened, people started

arguing, oh, is he a leftist? Is he on the right? Oh, if I'm on the right, then I'm going to say he's a Marxist. If I'm on the left, I'm going to say he did a good... Well, fuck, don't know. That was a lot of that going on, especially from the Daily Wire types. Yeah. Why did he do it? Okay, that's the only thing you...

The only question you really need to be asking is, why did he do it? Okay, you want to know why. It's like 9-11. Okay, that building fell that didn't get... Okay, three buildings fell that day. Why did it happen? That's the most important question. Everything else is a fucking distraction.

Why did it happen? Yeah. I mean, people want to know which team the killer's on and which team the guy who got killed is on so they can decide which team they're going to root for or root against or something like that. It's kind of a silly way of looking in life. Yeah. I mean, one of the things I wanted to use this topic to springboard onto a different one is we're talking about how the health care system is just beyond broken in this country. Well, just basically everything is broken. The mistake economy is something I want to talk about and springboard off of this.

You know, I'll give just a very, very basic example today. And I'm sure everybody in the chat has some experience like this on the weekly basis no matter what it is. Right. So I went to one of the stop and shop like oil change places today to get the oil changed on my truck. Right. This is supposed to be a very quick 15-minute process. Everybody's done it a million times before, right? I spent an hour in my truck

sitting in this place waiting for these chuckle fucks to do a very, very basic task. And I hear these guys underneath my truck, they're laughing at each other, I could hear one of the guys has his phone out, you know, they're telling jokes, they're taking forever,

they're wrenching on shit, they come up and give me the most bullshit excuse, like, oh well, it was really on there really tight, we had to make sure it was off. And I'm just thinking in the back of my mind, like, these guys basically have you by the balls, because you can't go out and complain really about it because they're going to fuck up your car or something

and there's no actual way these guys are going to get punished for their incompetence. It's like you go to the DMV and this room temperature IQ Shiboon now just has complete control over your life for the next three hours unless you do everything that person says. And there's like no accountability

for these people getting fixed. But it's little things like this. Like, oh, you go to Home Depot and they don't have the part for you, even though you call it ahead and the chick behind. the register said, oh yeah, we totally have it. Or like, the person doesn't put the extra sauce in your bag when you order something from Chick-fil-A.

Or in this case, which we're about to show in a second here, like somebody renegs on a deal that you just made. It's just everything is not working anymore. And people are getting their fuses burned ever, ever so close to the edge. And a lot of people are just going to reach the Michael Douglas falling down moment where they just go, boom. Case and point right here. Let's watch. Oh, shit. Call the cops!

So in this case, this was out of Utah, and this guy had just bought this Nissan from this dealership, like an hour or two before. That's a Subaru. I think it's at Nissan. Whatever the hell it is. I mean, if it's Uber, I can't believe this guy's not a lesbian. Well.

So, nice work, Doug. It hands. like a blade runner but basically the the point that I'm trying to raise here is like how do we fix this this has obviously gotten way worse

since the coup we all realize this just very basic functions all over our society just do not work anymore all of corporate America basically exists just to fuck you over in some way or another so what do we do about this fellas do we just have to completely break this system

in order for there to be some kind of repairs? Yeah, I'm not a believer in break it, but I am a big believer, and I'm no great philosopher in this, so, you know, whatever. But I believe that there is some value in organizing so that you can bring an extreme focus to problem areas in such a fashion that shame and abuse or lost revenues or whatever will have their effect. and there are a variety of ways to do it, you know.

It's just basically like take a magnifying glass and the sun is the public and focus that attention, metaphorically speaking, so that it burns. And that's where you get into the whole thing of narrative generation and the rest. The problem is most of the people on our side of things, from what I've seen, they don't build plans where each thing that happens is, designed to lead to the next thing and the next thing and the next thing and the next thing so that you can snowball things. Generally, we have scattershot attention.

We don't draw up plans. And here I'm talking about perfectly civil and perfectly legal plans. We don't draw them up in narrative sequences where you, for example, have a group of guys who get together over the period of a year and you say, okay, what can we win on with limited resources and if we do get the first win, how will it build to the second and the third and the fourth so that you've got a whole plan with contingencies for how you address these problems in our society? We just don't do it. We don't. We don't have right-wing think tanks that I'm aware of that lay out plans at this scale and across time with the contingency aspects and the

rest building upon each previous step that came. And I think until we do, we're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going to see changes. Yeah, I was having a conversation yesterday. We were talking about Citizens United and we were talking about the United Healthcare CEO and how, you know, he's, they've been convicted three times and found guilty. If they were a private individual, they'd be facing life in jail. But no, they don't, they're exempt from this. And, you know, it, it, it always, it always, goes back to this mid-century country in Europe. You wouldn't, no one would be gutting down a CEO in the street in a certain country in

mid-century Europe because the government would be pulling that CEO in doing a really quick trial and they would take care of it. We don't have anybody watching out for us. People in power are supposed to be watching out for us. We're supposed to have a common call. and power is supposed to be watching out for us. But we have a completely deracinated culture. We have a multicultural and everything is in chaos.

It all needs to be fixed. You don't have to tear it down. You just have to change it. Until that happens, shit like this is just going to continue to happen. And for the record, do we just happen to know the spectators like myself? Do we know why this guy was pissed off and drove his car? through the wall of the dealership. He came to the dealership earlier,

bought the car. Apparently there was some kind of issue with it. Went to come, take it back like an hour or two later. Company said all sales are final. Guy said, you're going to take this car back or I'm going to drive it through the front of the building. They didn't take the car back and here's a result.

Yeah, see, he's a man of his word. That, if nothing else, should be celebrated. You know, I said I was going to do it. Wigger promises. They keep their promises. Well, there's one thing that comes to mind. This is old Austrian school thinking, which is that it seems like some of the behavior we're talking about here

feels a little bit like economic boom behavior. Things tend to get sort of loosey-goosey. People feel like they kind of can get away with everything. And in a bust, you get this sort of tightening backup of behavior. You know, people are expected to go into the office again and maybe not dress in their pajamas and, you know, things like that. So I don't know. I just throw it out there because if we do have a bust,

And suddenly we noticed that a lot of behavior that had become acceptable is no longer considered acceptable. You can remember that I said this. Yeah. I'm just, I don't know what it's going to take, but I'm just sick of. Like, I just want to be, I almost just want to become a hermit at this point. Like, I just don't even want to leave. I just want to, like, buy stuff from online all the time because, like, it's like you have to plan, like, a complete, like, assassination. plot of Osama bin Laden just to go to Home Depot these days.

And I'm just sick of it. You just run through like 10 different situations in your brain. Like, oh, how's this person going to fuck me over today? Oh, I go into the office. Oh, of course, they don't have what I'm looking for. Oh, of course, it's going to take a little extra longer. Oh, of course, it's going to take, you know, however long for something to be done that was a mundane task, not even five years ago.

I mean, once age Berber talks about all the time of the sheep shearing operation that goes on in the United States, and it's really, really hard not to agree with them. Yeah, they're a real, real problem. I just saw Charlemagne said, yes, become the hermit. I was just about to say, you know, you can always move way out into the country in the woods like I've done, like Charlene's done.

It doesn't mean that you're... Then it takes you three months to get your transmission change. Yes, but it did get changed properly. It finally did. That's an inside joke with Pete. I guess that's the question, right? Would you rather have it done correctly and it take forever? Or would you rather, you don't have it done quickly, but it breaks it. For sure, yeah.

And I'm able to go actually talk to the person and he is in charge of his shop, whereas you can, you can run through the, I remember when I was a younger man, not an old man as I am now. And I had an older friend and I would always hear him bitching. He was always like, oh, I'm just trying to get this done. I'm just trying to get that done. and he would always tell me things like jump on it right now, you know, hammer the process through, do not wait, they're going to screw you. And I was like, who lives that way?

And then I got old enough to where I have a number of different things that need to get done right. And I, to your point, Red Hawk, I spend an enormous amount of my time just sitting and thinking before I have interactions with people in order to like manage that process and get it done right. And even so, even so

half the time it doesn't work out like I mean the worst is lawyers man I mean we don't need to get lost down that rabbit hole but like you're paying them you know significant sums of money

and they don't really do anything and their entire attitude is I'm doing you a favor you're lucky I'm helping you at all you're lucky I took the project only to like sit on it and not do anything right so yeah

welcome to welcome to yeah maturity, let's call it, so I'm not too depressed. No one does anything right. Sounds like you guys are not feeling that as customers, you are king. No. Oh, yeah.

You remember that in the early 90s when they're like the customer is always right? I mean, I remember you used to be able to call people up. Yeah, you used to be able to call people up and be like, I'm a customer. I demand me taking care of. Now they just hang up or laugh or my favorite is doing that whole. whole COVID period. You can't call anyone. There's no one to call literally. There's no one

to call. They're just firing to figure out the new technique to just fuck you right in the ass. That is what all these people are doing. No? It's so maddening. I mean, expect more of this. That's all I'm going to say. You know,

people are just going to lose their shit and you're going to get stuff like this. One of the things that really pisses me off to no end is when people just follow the rules to the letter but aren't actually like following them to the spirit and it's like oh we close at 659 and you show up at like 655

and now it's like no no no no we can't serve you man no no no it's like come on man you know you can't do me a solid here like just it's weird how it's like this is this extreme feminization like rules following culture that we have in all the businesses but at the same time there's just no like actual you know moving about of the rules when it calls for it now it's just like well this is our policy it's like yeah i get it's your policy but your policy's fucking stupid and my unique situation doesn't actually fall into your policy so how would you do me a solid here rachish you know but of course you don't get that anymore so i know yeah exactly but yeah and

i'll just i'll just while we're complaining i'll just mention the thing of um calls for support, you know. And, you know, the first line of people you're talking to are totally useless, and your objective is to get past level one, right? And then you might get to someone who can help you. But it's like I didn't play much football, but I'm picturing like a football scenario, right? You've got to kind of like muscle your way past. It's going to march down field just to get a result.

Yeah. Not even to get a result, to get someone who is capable of comprehending what the issue is. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And, you know, you bring up, oh, the customer is always right, and they're like, wrong. Well, we're not going to end the stream just on this one. We do actually have a bit of a light story to talk about.

We saw this week. Heroic. Yeah. Yeah, I thought so. You know, I saw this going around. Maybe people saw this on Twitter. This very brave gentleman scaled a 19-story building to rescue his mother. Why don't we listen in on this one?

Scaling a 19-story burning building in Philadelphia with the hopes of reaching his mother trapped inside. I'm not just going to sit there and let my mom die. I'd rather risk my life falling than let her sit in there and die. He's flying all the way up the housebound of the building. Sometime after 9.30 p.m., Germain received a call from his sister, saying his 65-year-old immobile mother couldn't make it out of her apartment on the 15th floor. Germain rushed to the scene, but police had blocked off the front door. They said they was like the elevator's not working.

I'm like, no problem. I take the steps. I just want to go make sure my mother. My mother is sick. She's bearing. So I need to get up there. But police wouldn't let Germain in. So despite having fractured his hip,

earlier that day, Germain let adrenaline take over, climbing the buildings fenced in balconies, wire cutters in hand. I was going to cut a hole in the fence to next door and then, you know, to let her go through. The fire was contained by the time he reached his mother's floor. She reassured him from the balcony that she was okay and back down he went. Was she yelling at you because you climbed outside? She was more shocked. She really not, she don't be surprised at things I do that. She know I go over and be out for her.

So back down he went, expecting a quick arrest once on the ground. But an understanding officer let him go. So he actually did come in a break because he understanding the circumstances. And he knew, you know, when you're adrenaline pumping your mom up there, you think she dying, you do anything you can. It's apropos for the previous point. I mean, also based, but it's apropos because here you got to. a situation where you're celebrating the fact that the people who forced you to climb up,

however many stories out the outside of the building, the win is that you're celebrating the fact they decided not to prosecute you. Yeah, I mean, it's literally just one of us. People in the chat think that we were doing the chirp. The chirp actually happened three times in that fucking... It wasn't, for once it wasn't dug. It was actually in the thing.

This was not in post-production, guys. No, no. But yeah, you do bring up a good point, Oliver, and this is something I was thinking of. I mean, I actually hadn't watched that before we played it just because I wanted to be surprised. But your point is well taken that we talk about this a bunch. Like, this is a big red pill topic in Married Red Pell forums, right?

The two different parenting strategies between men and women. And women have a very rules-based parenting strategy in the sense of, okay, the rules come down from, or I'm sorry, men have a very rules-based parenting strategy in sense. Everybody knows the rules. They're declared to everyone. You know if you break one, you're going to get punished.

But you also know that, you know, there's a bit of wiggle room in these. But as it relates to a female parenting strategy, it's all completely emotional. There's no actually rules set in stone because it's all based on the emotions of the people who are actually in the positions of power at that time.

so it's like people know this all the time right like when you're growing up as a kid it's like oh have your buddy go ask your mom if you can go and sleep over right or have a playday with your friend or something it's like oh it'll go better if you ask my mom right because you're playing on emotions you're not actually playing on rules right and people figure this out at a very young age nobody goes and asks the dad because the dad says no your bedtime is XYZ time just another example of this yeah and it's a perfect and simple straightforward explication that everyone can understand of why female judges should be forbidden. Yeah. Shut up! Silly woman! Perfect. All right. Let's wrap up with some super chats and then we'll close down for the night, fellas.

So, scrolling down to P. Budapest for five bucks. So much of our society was set up for people with a shared culture and morality, but America is now drugged out multicultural hellhole with anti-morality. Yeah. I mean, you can't expect our wasp-y standards

to be upheld by non-wasps. Simple as that. And that's it. No more superchats. Kind of a light night tonight, but it's December. People are in the Christmas spirit. I'm going to start traveling

tomorrow for my own Christmas, so I'll be gone the next couple of weeks. But Pete, Anything to promote, sir? Pete Cagnano show, Pete Substack.com. Check out the episode I just dropped today, Thomas and I, talking about Syria. I think you'll get some insights there. Thomas actually knows.

He has people that know people on the ground there. So, yeah, that's it. Take care, everyone. Right on. Stephen, do you have anything to promote, sir? Yeah, so, like I said, I'm usually not here for Pony Express Radio, because my weekly show is on Thursdays. And I guess for this audience, I'd want to mention a series I've recently done on Reno Camus.

And interesting thing about Reno Camus is that he came up with the phrase, the Great Replacement, 30 years ago. And he spoke and wrote about what he meant by the Great Replacement. And I found his thoughts quite interesting. He's kind of coming at things from a different angle. He's not exactly, I don't know, a right winger, I suppose. And yet, I have found him really quite insightful in thinking about what's been going on with what he calls replaceism. So check out my series.

It's just called Rayneau Camus on the channel Radical Liberation on YouTube. It's a playlist where I go through some of his writings. I think you'll find it quite interesting. All righty. Definitely go check that out. Always a pleasure to speak with you, Stephen. And Semmigog, what do you have to promote, sir? Oh, just my channel.

Follow me over on YouTube. Follow me on Twitter as well, if you like. I'm very, very happy to be here. Thanks for having me as a guest. I look forward to checking out that stream that Pete just mentioned with Thomas. I've been watching a bunch of the stuff out of their back catalog, all kinds of great discussions. For my part, the only thing I likely have coming up soon,

if I can get it scheduled is a discussion with people regarding what's been happening in Georgia, the country, not the state. And I will be having an appearance coming up on Millennial with Woes. I believe that will be happening. Let me scroll back here on my calendar. That should be over on a millennial on Monday the 23rd in the evening at 8. And I think he's going to do some sort of thing he's calling a banquet where he has a number of guests at one time this year. That'll be happening on the 27th.

So yeah, thanks again, guys. Yeah, I'll be at that banquet. Yes, many of the OGC guys will be on millennial this year for the American banquet. So everyone check your calendars for that one. You got a last second. You got a last second. Yeah, I see that. I'll get that in one second.

So, yeah, everyone be on lookout for. the OGC guy's appearance on millennial and be sure to check out all of our friends, Millennium 10 this year, so Lowe's does an excellent job everyone should go over and support them. But yes, Palladon YYZ for 20 bucks says

Assad must go to the Pekwinoa show. So funny. That'll be interesting. Great super chat. That's a one one. I can just imagine like him making appearance on Oron show. I have a really interesting guest that you're really going to

enjoy. Bashar al-Assad, welcome. But first, let's hear from Skillshare. We have to assume that Tucker is going to get that, right? Yeah, that'd be interesting. I thought about that. I thought they might be facing it. That would be interesting. No, it would be interesting.

For myself, I do not really have much to promote at the moment. Next year, I'm making the promise to revive the Son of Orion Substack, because I want to get more of my hunting posts. out. There's been a severe backlog of those that I need to get rolling. So that'll be my new year's resolution next year is to revive the son of Orion substack for everyone. So that'll be fun little project for myself. In the meantime, like I said at the start, check out Axios on Remote Fitness and Coaching. Link is in the description. So be sure to get you all signed up and get jacked for next year. White Boy Summer never ends. And speaking of White Boy

Summer, like I said, 30% off for the next. 30 hours of Pony Express Radio T-shirts. Be sure to go over to WBS Apparel and buy a shirt while supplies last. Also, check out the OGC substack. Tomorrow, there's a podcast behind the paywall with, who is it?

It's Grant Brooks and Prudentialist tomorrow are behind the paywall. So you guys can sign up for $8 a month on the substack, get access to all of our paid content behind the paywall. We do like movie reviews, some paid articles, You know, our cult classic favorite is the flag, the U.S. Flags stream where we went through all 50 states. And Oliver, you were on that one.

We talked about vexelology of the United States. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a fun one. And also our Ciccaro review is also another good cult classic on that one. So you guys can check out the best of a lot. I watched Mario three times since that review. It's so good. It's such an amazing movie.

I want to make it real life. All righty. But with that out of the way, I might make an appearance in the future. But if I don't, have a Merry Christmas, everyone. And the Pony Express Radio will be back next week in my absence.