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so we're going to start on the top here with making fun of everyone's favorite branch of the
united states military uh the u.s navy and we're going to start with this hilarious picture
that was shown uh mandrel why don't you explain to us what's going on here this is like a captain
on one of the ships and uh decided to do some badass you know super macho open fight
stuff with his M4.
Well, to be honest, like, this is all social media bullshit from the Navy that I didn't intend and not pay attention to because it's all propaganda anyway.
But basically, yes, this appears to be a commanding officer on some ship doing a gun shoot.
And, yeah, there's a, if you are looking at the image, right, for those who are actually watching.
Let's count how many errors are wrong, not only with the setup of this gun, but also how the guy's shooting.
I mean, the nose kind of gives it away, too.
I'm hungry for chicken wings right now.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah, that's a massive chicken wing for sure.
Yeah, so, like, you've got the foregrip is, like, for some reason next to the magazine.
The optic is, like, apparently on backwards.
Backwards, definitely.
Yeah, that's backwards.
And he's got, he's got, like, his form for shooting is really bad.
Like, you could just, like, the gun, you're supposed to keep it, like,
like in the shoulder pocket and he's not doing that so i mean i mean great cheek well i guess
you know points for trying but you know as uh his eyes are definitely a little too close uh for
comfort with that scope uh right there i don't know if anyone's been snake bit before uh by the scope
coming back and putting a ring around your eye but uh it's not fun i had to take a friend to
uh the emergency room once because he was over zealous and had to get stitches all around his
uh eye socket once it was uh it was not fun i was not fun i i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm
But yeah, so this is our best and brightest.
You know what, guys, this makes me want to sign up for the U.S.
Armed Forces right away, just seeing this.
Look at this badass going out there, shooting his full auto car being out there into the
middle of the ocean.
This is what you look forward to.
You know, the other thing I saw on this, and maybe this isn't exactly correct what this is,
but if you look right underneath his elbow, is that like the smiley face pin from
Watchman?
I don't know if you guys know what I'm talking about.
No, no, that's not.
That's not what that is.
No, no, no.
So that actually, that little yellow circle is actually, hold on, let me see if I can get it or guy to pull it up for you.
So it's a command at C-pin and it's basically just a little like star-looking thing with an anchor on it, right?
Let me copy pasta.
This guy probably went to the Naval Academy, I imagine.
You know, pretty high-ranking guy.
and uh see that's the right country yeah maybe i mean you know i uh i've mentioned this before on
this show but i spent a lot of my youth uh on a rowing team and a lot of guys i know uh like went
from there went to the naval academy uh to be on the rowing team then later later went on to
join the united states navy so i mean uh entirely possible no but i mean we're going to broaden
this conversation to another discussion on the date of the u s navy the only the only thing missing from
this is a double chicken wing.
That would be like perfect.
It's just, you know,
the only other thing could have been if like if the magazine wasn't entirely, you know,
entirely.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, if it was like sticking out a little bit.
Yeah, but how are you going to eject, you know,
multiple rounds with a mag like that?
Yeah, exactly.
Properly, you know.
Yeah.
Have you ever seen the,
the photo of the one I think it was in Pennsylvania where the whole department
showed up in the small town, which means it was like six officers, and the female had her,
the magazine in backwards.
Oh, I do remember seeing that.
How do you even get it in there?
I don't know.
If you got to force it, it's probably not supposed to go that way.
You know, it's just kind of funny because this opens up a broader discussion to the, and we've
pulled up these clips on this show previously about like the U.S. Army ads like with the
lesbians or what have you. It's like I'm a lesbian and I join the army. It's like if this is
like you know, people might be thinking, oh, they're they're taking a heel turn so to speak.
They're showing masculine guys out there shooting fully automatic weapons out in the deep blue
ocean, right? Yeah, this is what people want and this is the stuff they pull all up. I mean,
uh, Madrel, what do you think about this take? Because I was discussing this with a couple of my
Navy buddies and such and they were saying
oh well you know this could easily have been
like some of this guy's
men under his unit
you know wanted to make him look like a fucking idiot
in front of the press so they decked out this rifle
to make it like as stupid as possible and then just hand it to him
for the photo op you know I mean as opposed to this
actually being a genuine competency crisis rather this is
guys doing guy shit and making fun of other people
do you think that's a possibility or do you think it's more of the
competency crisis well I mean
it partially is a competency
crisis because if this was a joke, you would think the, you know, the public affairs officer,
the PAO or the person who is responsible for social media feed and taking, you know,
cool pictures that this was supposed to be, would actually notice that this was not a good photo.
So, I mean, yeah, it kind of is a competency crisis, but it's a lack of social media competency.
Like, I'm sure there were other photographs that, yeah.
No way.
Look at that.
FBI.
Hell yeah.
I wish the feds were this way.
I wish they were this incompetent.
Well, aside from us, just making fun of this photo, which we could do all day.
This is actually going to open up a discussion into the broader state of the United States Navy.
And, no, I guess, Mandra, we can have you take point on this.
one here because it seems that the United States Navy is falling behind on schedule for, what is it,
the production of new ships or the maintaining of the whole Navy as a whole. Why don't you walk us
through this? Well, sure, actually. So this is, there was an article in the New York Post from this
week, which noticed that the Navy usually has this little shipbuilding conference thing.
It's basically a glorified, you know, the dog and pony show for the press, basically. But
they canceled that. And
people were asking exactly why. And the answer is not hard to answer why. It's literally there's
nothing to talk about that is good news, so just don't say anything at all. And here we have a
screenshot of a wonderful, wonderful fact sheet that has been released by the Navy. And it's
quite embarrassing, right? This is a huge problem, especially considering the age of most of the U.S.
Navy ships.
As I'm sure our wonderfully well-educated audience is aware, the U.S. Navy is decommissioning
a lot of its older platforms.
A lot of the older cruisers, basically, they're at the end of their lifespan.
The LHDs, like, I think, yeah, the LPDs, basically, the really, really old ones.
Those are all like the same age.
They're all from the 80s.
They've been ridden hard and put away wet for, like,
like the last 20 years due to the war on terror, basically.
And so these ships are just not in good condition.
And like, we don't have the spare parts for a lot of these older systems, these legacy systems.
So, like, they need to really get their ship building program over.
And to be honest, the Navy has struck out three times already, right?
They struck out with LCS.
That was just technically striking out twice because that was like a dual class of ship.
So you have freedom in the independence class LPS platforms.
And so both of those were duds because the engineering plant sucked.
And the modular system was just like trying to do too much too early.
And so then you have the ZoomWat class was also a dud.
And like you can't, there was a third one.
I can't remember off the top of what the third one was.
But essentially you have, oh, the F-35, that was it.
Yeah. And F-35 has had consistent problems. It's way too expensive for what it does. I understand
tactically what it's supposed to do. It's supposed to basically take the place of a harrier,
but you're putting an actual aircraft that can be used for air supremacy and place it onto an LHD or LHA platform.
So you can turn it into a literal carrier again and actually use these things as essentially light carriers.
The problem is, as you can see from the screen, everything is delayed.
Literally everything is delayed, right?
So you can see the new SSBN class that they've got planned.
Columbia, that's delayed.
You can see 12 to 16 months.
Virginia, the Block 4 variant, that's delayed three years.
The Block 5 Virginia class, that's two years.
It says here the Enterprise, which is a Gerald R. Ford class carrier,
that's delayed 18 to 26 months.
I'm not sure why that's such a massive gap there.
That's almost a year.
But yeah, so that's a little more than a year, I should say.
But then you have the constellation, which is three years, right?
The constellation, FG62, is supposed to be America's counter to what the Russians and the Chinese are doing.
The Russians have been building the Admiral Gorshkov class frigate.
It's a modern frigate.
It's got all of the expected, like, crazy good, like, ex-Soviet missiles that, you know,
we have a problem defending against or are very difficult because they're supersonic.
And then it's got the Chinese also have the type 54 frigate, right?
So, and the thing with frigates, like we learned from the Oliver Hazard Perry class,
is you build them because they're small.
They have small crews.
they're relatively cheap
and
you know
they're expendable
you can build a shit ton of these things
and that's basically what it looks like
the Chinese and the Russians are probably
going to do
like everybody understands that
you don't like with
the United States Navy in the early
20th century understood this
you build one class of ship
you build two maybe three of them
figure out all of the problems
like figure all of the little design quirks and things, and then you, like, upgrade it and you
build a different class of ship, or you just upgrade it in a different flight, right? The first
two are kind of like experimental. And that's basically what you do. We do not do that with LCS.
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Into my understanding, Mandrill,
Every one of these has to be made in the United States with all the United States parts because it's actually, you know, like critical infrastructure, you know, military secrets and whatnot.
So it's like the main issue here that they just don't have the manufacturing base.
Is it the issue they don't have guys to actually, you know, engineers, they're skilled enough to make these?
What's the main holdup, do you think?
It's the manufacturing, honestly.
We do not have the shipbuilding capacity.
We probably don't have the, you know, the, you know, the steel.
steel manufacturing capacity like the United States used to have and is like
Circular World War II was reputed to have. A lot of this is also aluminum, right?
Aluminum welders make really huge bank because like they're hard to come by.
Like it's a very difficult thing I understand to learn how to become an aluminum
welder. It's a dirty job and there's not that many of them.
So where you're seeing problems in the construction of new ships and in the repair
of old ships, especially, is aluminum welding.
And my understanding is you'd want a ship to be aluminum because it's lighter than steel so you can make it move faster.
But aluminum is quite, or no, is that not how it works?
No, no.
So what we did with the Taekondroga class cruiser, which is basically the whole of us Bruins class
destroyer from the 60s and 70s.
And we just put a new thing on top of it, but it's top heavy.
So they had, in order to deal with a stability problem, you have to make the superstructure aluminum rather than steel.
Obviously, that creates corrosion problems around the edges where, you know, the steel actually is welded onto the aluminum.
That's not an easy process to do that, of course.
But the problem with aluminum is it has a much lower melting point with steel.
there is old pictures of U.S. Navy cruisers from like the 60s and 70s.
I think it was USS Belknack, if I remember correctly, which basically you can look at pictures
of this thing online. You can Google it.
It basically had an aluminum superstructure, and it got into an accident, and the fuel caught
fire, and the entire superstructure basically melted down to the water line, basically.
I guess I should say not to the waterway, it's in the freeboard section of the ship.
But the point is, like, aluminum is not good to use because it melts.
So if you have ammunition and fuel, which, like, increase the melting point of the actual,
or they're just so hot, right, that you're not going to be able to, you can't put the fire out,
it's going to melt the ship, basically.
So that's a huge problem, right?
But the reason why you use aluminum is because you're trying to save weight at some point of the ship.
So this is where you start getting into the interesting trichotomy of design, which is your speed considerations.
Speed requires bigger engine plants, which requires more space.
You have your weapons load out.
And then you also got weight and stability considerations.
So that's like the trichotomy, the three things that you need to think about in any sort of weapons design.
But see, yeah, so you're supposed to, really, they should be using steel, but steel is heavier, so they don't like to use it for certain things.
This is one of the reasons why the LCS class was criticized is because we're using aluminum hole for it.
The whole shit basically is aluminum, which it's good, I guess, for what you're trying to do.
It's very experimental in a way, but that's why you don't build, or try to build 50 of the damn things, you know.
So, So, Mandrill, what do you see as, you know, the response is going to be from the U.S. Navy from this?
So the ships are behind schedule as to what they need to construct.
Are they just going to run the current class into the ground?
I mean, because those are really old too at this point, right?
I mean, I got to imagine that's going to have effects with actually patrolling the world's oceans as we've seen and the with the Houthis and whatnot, but carry on.
Well, well, so yes and no, right.
The older classes of ships that have been around since the Reagan era, basically,
those are all very slowly being phased out, essentially.
And it's a sad thing because Congress doesn't like the fact that the cruisers are essentially going by-bye.
The Taekonorogo-class cruiser is a very, like, attractive-looking ship.
That's the one I was talking about earlier with the big superstructure on top with the aluminum superstructure.
and like there are tactical reasons I can't get into of why the U.S. Navy likes to use the tycoes,
but like it's just mostly because they're a bigger ship slightly, they have more missiles, etc.
There are, you know, lots of other design considerations, more than the DDG.
So the problem with what you're saying, right, is that's essentially already happened.
a huge reason why
when comprehensive review came out in 2017
I mean this is like almost
Jesus like seven eight six seven years ago now but
comprehensive review basically
said and this is not a classified report or anything
you can go look up a PDF version if you want
but it's basically said look like we don't have
the spare parts for some of these like critical systems of our ships
we don't like for some reason we just can't manufacture it anymore or you know we never re-ups
the contract and to be honest a lot of these systems are just extremely ancient right this is like
technology all war like especially warship technology because it takes like a decade to create
the ship itself in a lot of cases from like start to finish in terms of construction
especially a new class
if you're starting something like from scratch
it takes like a lot of time to build
so you're building a ship
with a decade lag in technology
so all of these ships which came out in the 80s
were actually using technology
from the 70s and even
the 60s in some cases
so
you know
so the TLDR is our Navy
is severely
you know out of date shall we speak is
while the Chinese and the Russians and others are, you know, more up to date.
Well, we have been out of date for a significant amount of time,
but the U.S. Navy basically thought, well, okay, we have these wonderful cruisers and wonderful destroyers.
They're great at what they do.
They're workhorses.
They're excellent.
We can still play the World War II game where we think carrier warfare is going to be the way forward.
We have 10, 11 super carriers.
We can defend these using our air, you know, our cruisers and destroys that are basically
specifically built to defend the carrier essentially from, you know, missile attacks.
The problem is that's not what the Russians and the Chinese are doing.
The Russians and the Chinese basically, especially the Chinese, because their naval strategy is,
like they basically understand that they don't project power past their own like the South China Sea so their own turf as they would call it
and they design their ships and their fleet and their force structure kind of with that in mind
whereas we're a naval maritime empire or we act like it and our fleet thinks that it is and so we design
our ships to project power and so they really don't
need the same type of carrier warfare as we do.
Really, what they have focused on is building very small,
survivable frigate classes of ship that have pretty substantial missiles.
And like the United States, like Harpoon is just an old missile system.
A lot of these old Soviet missiles are just old too, but like missile technology is,
is one of the things that the United States has had trouble with.
And a lot of the NATO nations have too as well,
just because we have these old missiles,
like the exosate has been around for forever,
and that's still used by the French.
So, like, a lot of these just really old systems,
like, you haven't, you haven't, like, turned over
and got a little bit of innovation
and learned the lessons from the previous, like, 20 or 30 years,
because we've been distracted with war on terror stuff.
So now what you have is you have this very chaotic situation
where you're trying to get the correct amount
and the correct type of ships
and everything's just delayed, basically.
So, like, yeah, our Navy is not in a good position
and I would say that they're very vulnerable to the Chinese, especially.
Well, more great news, as always, that we share on this show.
Mandra, if you were to fix this situation, what would you do?
Would you say for the U.S. to maybe pull back it's, you know, overzealousness about patrolling the world's oceans and shore up back home and fix our ship before we start going around sending our fleet all over the place or like, how do we even deal with this at this point?
Obviously, nobody's going to listen to us, but what do you do?
It depends, right?
Because the United States is a maritime power, right?
It's very difficult to try to reverse course in that way.
Because we're not like we don't act like a land power since we've actually conquered the American West.
We act like a maritime power.
That's basically what our empire is.
So it's the problem is whether or not in this new multipolar paradigm, whether you can say,
oh, right, this is this country's sphere of influence.
This is this other country's sphere of influence.
And you're seeing that play out in other places in the world, like Ukraine, like Taiwan, etc.
Right?
Where, okay, this country has a sphere of influence, a definite sphere of influence,
because they're a major regional player and this is their backyard.
Okay, we need to just leave it alone, basically.
And we don't seem to be able to do that.
Other than that, I would say you really have to re-industrialize the country.
NAFTA was a massive, massive mistake for this very reason.
And you just don't have the amount of industry to support like a World War II kind of armament
where you can spin up your entire industrial production capacity and make like a world-class Navy on the fly, essentially.
And navies are different to armies, right?
armies you can spin up extremely quickly, especially if you already have the equipment, because it's just conscription.
Navies are a bit more different because the navies are just inherently more technical due to the inimical nature of the sea.
And like, as I said before, because you have this extremely long lead time with ship construction,
like all of these things need to be set out in advance before you can actually get like a proper fleet created and trained and ready to get.
Right on. Well, so not good news for us, as we're constantly talking about on this show. So we'll definitely want to keep an eye on this one. Anything else that the viewers should know about the situation manager before we move on to our next topic?
No, that pretty much sums it up.
Oh, boy. All right. Well, I have utmost confidence in the United States' naval future to secure the world's trade routes and ensure that I get my coffee sent to me on time. So we will see what happens in the future.
I just hope that whatever ship is carrying the Pony Express radio shirts from the secret WBS apparel contractor site, I hope that that ship is secure and doesn't run into any issues like running into bridges or whatever else.
Carter ships are doing these days.
I mean, before we move off the topic, I will say the constellation, I reviewed this ship class on Prudentialist channel, actually.
And it's a very good ship for what it's intended to do, which is to basically be the American equivalent of.
of the Gorskov and the type 54A class fregets.
So it's not like we don't have the technology.
We do have the technology.
It's just that you just need to get these things built.
Indeed.
Well, we keep talking about this all the time on the show that we actually need to have jobs in America,
reindustrialize, sending our shit overseas, and then having the only jobs here back at home
in the Biden administration be sent to those who are foreign-born citizens, not actual
Heritage Americans. It's just the same drum we keep beating time and time again on the show. But
we must move on. Next up, we're going to talk about a pair of stories that, you know,
I guess we're going to be addressing the zoomers on the stream this time. So everyone in the chat,
put down your pitchforks for now, but we'll get there when we get there first. We're going to
turn this attention to a story out of the state of Michigan where this was back in 2021. There
was a school shooting that took place by 15-year-old kid who shot up his high school and took
a gun from the parents' house and killed a couple of the classmates and such.
And I don't like naming the names of shooters and stuff like that and all that kind of stuff.
So we're going to ignore that for a moment.
But what's important about this case now is that this was just ruled this week, that the parents
of this kid have both been sentenced to 10 to 15 years for involuntary manslaughter under the
argument that they ignored the warning signs of mental instability in their son and did not
practice quote unquote proper gun safety in the home. So these parents now have been sent to prison
in addition to their kid who's been sitting in prison ever since the shooting took place.
But I mean, right on the start of it here, I mean, I can assume that this precedent is going to
be set with every single black inner city youth gang that goes around shooting innocent people,
right? I can assume that the parents are going to end up in jail any.
day now, right? Yeah, you can keep waiting for that. They're making an example of these parents.
I wouldn't be surprised if this gets overturned on appeal. I also wouldn't be surprised that the
convictions upheld, but they're making an example of them because the press loves to talk about the
white male school shooters. So they knew the judge knows, the prosecutor knows that this is a high
profile case and they got to show, you know, the Kuwok's who's boss, essentially.
Indeed.
We actually have a recording here of the judge's ruling.
Well, first of all, a woman judge.
So we're off to a good start.
But let's listen to what she has to say.
The defendant's gross negligence has caused unimaginable suffering to hundreds of others
as a result of what happened that day.
Each act or inaction created a ripple effect.
Therefore, an out-of-guidelines sentence is appropriate and proportional.
The court uses the useful tool of the legislative guidelines,
which embody the principles of proportionality,
while also taking into account the nature of the offense and the background of each defendant.
I believe...
I do it.
Well, I mean...
Is it just me or does the judge have Laura Lumer physiognomy?
Yeah.
Yep.
anyone want to do
I don't know Cheryl Matthews
anyone want to do a early life check in the chat here
did she take her husband's name
or something I'm thinking she did
I saw a picture of her when she's younger and
yeah she looks like a lower loomer
yeah well I mean
Of course
When is Laura coming on the show?
Yeah really
I'm gonna
I mean
first I mean at the start of this right
I mean, we talk about this all the time about like the rule of law, you know, it's just, you know, we're off the reservation, right?
But I mean, this is really the complete disillusion of the rule of law in America.
You cannot have a country that works like this where you're literally, I mean, this is like Hatfield and McCoy's like family feud kind of stuff, right?
Like we're punishing, you know, the parents for the sins of their children.
Like, you can't have a country like this.
You're going to see them branch us out in other types of legal theory.
in everything as well whatever can be used to leverage against their political enemies they're
going to bend and contort the law however they wish yeah and you can tell from the brief
clip of language of judge matthews here um which is oh we're looking at like the specific
backgrounds of the defendants like that what they're saying is in reading between the lines here
is that oh we're applying an intersectional lens to these things right oh you're a bunch of white
people, a black man, a sacred, a sacred black man was harmed or something or a sacred member of
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This is just
This is just another way to get the chuds
It's just another route in to
To make sure that
You're scared that you
Well maybe I shouldn't have guns if it
Yeah I mean this is
This is pretty
This is pretty transparent
Does anybody know what the deal
Details were in terms of the storage of the firearms
Because
It was a it was a hand
gun that the kid used and it was just in like the nightstand drawer and and they uh or they claim was in the
nightstand drawer and therefore that wasn't proper gun safety which you know whatever term that means
you know these days i mean i mean there's statutes on the books in a lot of different states in terms
of that and oh you can't let miners have access to a handgun you know that kind of thing and i guess a
conviction on that may you know maybe justifiable depending on the context but yeah that's that's
quite the stretch i don't think uh this state even has if they're only convicted on that i don't even
think they have that type of law in the books the first place i could be wrong but well there's a
couple other things going on here and we've already talked about how this is just more ammunition
for them to use against the chuds so to speak but i mean just imagine if i mean this is just going to be
precedent for something in the future. Like, you know, imagine, oh, your son went to Charlottesville,
therefore your entire family now goes to prison because you didn't see the warning signs of these
evil white nationalists or what have you. Or, you know, somebody went to J6. They went to a Trump
rally. You know, you could totally see how this is going to be used in the future. But in combination
with this, I mean, people might not be up to date on what's been going on in Michigan. But it's since
It's 2020 and 2022.
It's just been total Democrat victory in the state on all levels as it relates to circuit judges, the attorney general, the governor.
It's all run by Democrat women now at this point.
And there's particularly egregious woman by the name of Haley Stevens.
It's a huge gun grabber.
It's been going out of her way to prosecute like the NRA and go after gun rights all over the state and such.
So Michigan's in a pretty terrible state right now.
Well, the, you know, when you take into consideration, I'm sure all of us remember Jeffrey Tuben and, you know, what that vile son of a bitch got caught doing.
He wrote a book last year called Homegrown Timothy McVeigh and the rise of right-wing extremism.
Oh, yeah.
And the whole, the whole point of that book was to prove that Timothy McVeigh was just a typical Republican.
He had no
He had no ties to National Alliance
You know, he had no ties to the Keog brothers
He had no ties to extremism
No, he was just your typical
Your typical Republican
Yeah, it's a very
It's a very Alinsky
Type strategy in terms of
Blame being your enemies, terrorists
You saw that a lot during
The summer of Floyd
and all that with all the videos of different progressives out there in Antifa calling the Chuds terrorists and everything.
And it's just a it's a method of dehumanization and a de-legitimization of your political opposition essentially.
But from their perspective, you know, it's you can understand why they're doing that as our enemies.
But it's a very dangerous rhetoric, obviously.
indeed. Now, gents, unless we have anything else to conclude on this case, we're going to turn our attention to another case involving Zoomers that took place in a state nearby in Wisconsin.
Anyone have any other concluding thoughts on the crumbly case here?
Sold. All right. Let's move on to the discussion of what's going on in Wisconsin right now.
this was making the rounds on Twitter earlier this week where you had a um i got i hate this
haircut i despise this fucking look i hate it all of them have it look at the smug guy with
this earring in there too and the why are you doxing me why are you doxing me right now
i can't stand this look you know just a little bit of fashion please you know fellas but
anyhow um so there's a story going around right now but there was a group of uh zoomers
that were harassing this guy last summer,
or maybe it might be two summers ago.
I forget what data was right now,
but it was happening in Wisconsin,
and there was a Gen X guy or a boomer guy.
I'm not sure exactly how old he was,
but he's in the water and like this river on like one of those floating tubes.
He's looking around for his phone.
A bunch of the zoomer kids start going up and harassing him
and knocking him to the ground in like one of these like prank style.
You know, like the zoomers have these weird like prank videos or what have you.
But they're harassing the guy.
guy pulls on a knife, starts shanking people.
One of the kids gets killed.
A bunch of them, you know,
gets stabbed in the process as well.
And the video is now officially released.
We're not going to play it here because, you know,
YouTube and such.
But the video got released because now the case has gone public, right?
And, I mean, what more do we have to say about this?
I mean, like the,
are the zoomers rising up and attacking people?
I mean, as a commentary, I'll say this.
I can't stand the behavior of zoomers like this.
they just don't really expect bad things to happen to them when they get up in other people's personal space.
You know, we were mentioning like these prank videos.
And I remember last year that, uh, who's that fucking black kid in the, in the UK?
It was like walking into people's houses and stuff.
I forget his name now.
But, uh, there's, you'll, you'll see no end of this kind of stuff.
But I've been talking for too long, Jens.
Yeah, I was not surprised when I read that, uh, the guy that did the shanking was a Romanian immigrant.
It's like, oh, yeah.
that's probably not the guy to fuck with like so uh not to say escalation was like the right
answer and apparently everybody was drunk during this but yeah you don't screw with the uh
romanian dude yeah that's that's a bad move um i live there for for a time and um yeah those
those guys don't play they just they just don't play especially the older if you're
I mean, this is, if he's a, if he's late Gen X or he's a early boomer, he was, he was in the Chochaski regime.
And I met, I used to hang out with a bunch of people who made it through the Chochasca regime.
And those guys were, they weren't, they were not nice.
A lot of them were, we're not nice guys.
That guy's probably got bodies other than Zumer bodies.
I mean, you just don't know this guy's background.
Yeah, just another day, you know, walking in the park for this guy.
You know, I mean, he was just begging for it.
You know, someone to try and fuck with me, make my day, you know, like something out of dirty hair, you know.
But, I mean, the reason why we're talking about this, we're just open this up to the broader subject of, you know, the kids are not all right.
Oh, I mean, we had this case previously that we were just discussing about like this, uh, Zoom or school shooter kid.
And if you look up pictures of him, he's not exactly the most, he doesn't exactly pass the physiognomy test, right?
you know and uh i see many cases with this as well and i i mentioned like the prank videos and
things like this i mean like you know the best way to avoid a fight is or the best way to win a fight
is just avoid getting in the fight in the first place right i mean it's like why why are you
getting up in people's business why do you think that nothing bad is going to happen to you why
you're so uncomfortable with you know like the consequences of actions kind of deal or any
semblance of decency i don't know anybody else have any thoughts when your value
is based on your social media following,
you're more likely to act out in provocative ways to gain attention
because it's funny as WBS has been trying to advertise on TikTok
and it's just cumer bait mostly.
But all of these people are just doing the most zany,
provocative things you can possibly do
because there's no other way to stand out.
So I think that's definitely psychologically impacting their generation for sure.
Yeah, undoubtedly, it's definitely a part of it.
I mean, I mean, you know, on the topic of recording everything, right?
I mean, it's like you're in the middle of the woods floating down the river on tubes,
but you have to get your phone out, you know, like immediately start recording stuff and like recording a fight.
I mean, why's your phone even with you?
You're out on the water, you know, like can you not be detached from the electronic device for, you know, any period of time?
You know, it's just, it's very weird to me.
I don't like how, you know, like social media has warped people's brains to the point where, like, you have to record every little minuscule thing that's going on in your life.
And funny enough, a manager why we were talking about this on Mr. D's Twitter spaces last night.
We were talking about, like, dating apps and Instagram and such.
And it's like, it's like a negative feedback loop, right?
Where, like, guys, because, you know, this is like just how you meet and date these days, like, you have to have a curated, like, Instagram profile and such.
if you don't it's like well why aren't you posting anything like what's wrong with you kind of deal so it's like a
prophecy you're you're a you're a loser if you don't have like at least a thousand followers on
instagram or something yeah i mean a lot of like the the lobertarians and stuff are talking about like
oh wow like we need to uh we shouldn't ban ticotx and for just on free speech and stuff and i mean like
i i just want it gone because i think it's warping people's brains and you know even though it has done some good
things for us like, you know,
a JQ questions popping up all over the place.
But I don't know, man,
I think the benefits certainly are outweighed
by the negative effects of all these,
you know, TikToks and all these
other social media apps. But I don't know.
Maybe people have other opinions.
Yeah. Look at us, guys.
A bunch of, a bunch of millennials and Gen Xers
talking about all them
zoomers, right? But do we have anything
else to say? I mean,
I mean, we'll see what happens.
I mean, if you look at the video,
I don't really think you can
claim it's anything other than self-defense.
I mean, this guy's outnumbered.
He's got big guys who are pushing him into the water.
It's pretty easy to drown somebody, you know,
when you're in shallow water like that,
and the guy just goes for a knife,
it starts slashing.
I mean, I think he's going to get off, in my opinion.
I think it's pretty cut and dry situation.
So, yeah, it's just, you know, it was caught on.
I know.
It was caught on video.
That's it.
He might get convicted because,
I mean, it's kind of that argument if you're just looking at an ass whooping, you can't really start stabbing.
But if he's able to, the defense able to articulate, he actually felt like his life was in danger, then, you know.
But if cops can say that, we can say that.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good point.
All right, Jans, let's go through some super chats here and then we'll carry on.
All right.
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I haven't heard about that one.
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Are we supposed to be giving them nuclear submarines?
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That was,
it was supposed to be France who was supposed to do it.
And France got,
I think France would even have a, would have a better chance of having them built.
before we would at this point.
If I remember correctly,
I think France was giving them diesel submarines,
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And basically, I think there's probably
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I mean, diesels are a lot quieter.
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So, like, of course they're going to be,
this is like, this happened right before Ukraine too.
So, like, I'm sure that this is going to come up again.
But yeah, no doubt.
We'll keep an eye on that one.
Let's see.
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Everyone in that situation was wrong.
Well, yeah, that's certainly a take you can have for sure.
I mean, like I was mentioning before,
best way to win a fight is just to avoid one in the first place,
which is the first thing they'll ever teach you when you guys,
go to take a concealed pistol license class.
You know,
it's like you don't want to go out being John Rambo or, you know,
God,
what's the name of Cleeney Swift's character,
Callahan?
Yeah,
Detective Callahan,
dirty Harry,
right?
You don't want to go running around looking for a fight.
You know,
it's just like,
hey,
you've got this tool.
It could be used to defend you or to defend the lives of the loved ones.
But,
you know,
don't be looking for fights,
man.
It's just not smart.
Let's see.
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caught up on the super chat. So let's go into a topic that if you guys existed in normal
world at all this week, no doubt you heard somebody ask you the question, oh, did you look at
the eclipse? Did you have fun of the eclipse? Did you get a chance to take off work and go see it?
I mean, I was in a part of the country where I got to see it almost in totality. It was pretty
close. So I thought it was kind of neat. You know, I'm not much of like a space geek as somebody like
Charlemagne is or something like that. But I thought was pretty neat. But one person who did get to go and see it
and get to see, show a bunch of black youths in her.
Oh, I got this photo already.
It's a representative, representative Jackson Lee.
Yep, out of Houston.
There we go.
Trying to put on the glasses.
Oh, that never gets old.
She's trying to put on her glasses.
There she is.
How are you failing so bad this?
Put down the microphone.
What is going on?
Are they looking for a leprechaun?
Oh, no, wait.
they're not in Alabama.
Very scholarly behavior.
She's struggling so hard to put on a very simple set of glasses.
Just look at her.
Fold them before they get on your head.
Is anyone trying to help her?
Or they're,
I mean,
everybody just,
people would probably just hate her and they're like,
all right,
let her just look like a moron.
Pete,
that'd be racist to help a black women.
Come on,
man.
No, help her put on the glasses.
Stay at it.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
She got, oh,
boy, oh boy,
yeah.
Every time.
Why does the moonbird chirp?
Yeah, exactly.
Did you guys see how fucking Hillary Clinton
just tweeted out a picture of Donald Trump
in the 2017,
eclipsious looking up at the sky,
it was to think that that was somehow dunking on him
or something like that.
It's like, oh, look at this idiot,
looking at the sun.
Solar Chad.
It's like solar Chad.
And everyone was making amazing memes of Trump and such.
But everything that they do that they think is a dunk or dunk on Trump,
it's immediately turned back on them.
I love how that works.
Like it's just nothing sticks on this guy.
Yeah.
I didn't use the glasses.
I saw a Gartha.
Well, you know, it's not just that.
I mean, she had a hilarious clip talking about how, you know,
we can't have colonies on the moon because the moon is mostly made of gas and the sun is too hot, almost too hot for us to set anything on.
It was just absolutely ridiculous.
She's talking to this gang of scholars and such at one of these underprivileged schools in Houston.
So she's like, oh yeah, we provided all of these special, you know, what's it called ultraviolet light?
Is that the light that screws with you if you stare at the sun?
Anyhow, the ultra light resistant glasses for all the inner city kids so they can all look up at the sun.
at the eclipse.
I mean, to be fair, she could have walked in there and said anything and they'd believe her.
And we're not talking about like no one there is doing it in the IQ Olympics unless it's for like the bronze medal.
Yeah, yeah, bronze medal indeed.
I mean, I guess just opens up like the wider discussion about, you know, we talk about this on the show many times about people like Elon Musk.
trying to get us to Mars and trying to get us to, you know,
move out and expand beyond the stars and into the solar system and everything.
That sounds like some African-American stuff.
Yeah, absolutely.
Look at this.
What a great photo.
So good.
She's just so memeable.
I love it.
You have less than one year.
Yeah, you do have less than one year.
I mean, I think it's also kind of fitting that, you know, I mean, we don't talk about it.
much, you know, because he's no longer in office.
But, I mean, the United States does have a branch of the armed forces called the
Space Force, you know, I mean, that is the thing that we have now.
I don't hear about it much because Trump is in an office.
But, you know, I mean, part of me does think it would be kind of cool for Fausty and man
to expand across the stars.
And, you know, we actually get held divers to or, you know, 40K or whatever.
You know, I mean, part of that is definitely something that would be amazing for us to strive
for and you know i mean it's kind of depressing when you look back at like the the cartoons and the
movies from like the 50s and the 60s and it's like oh the year 2000 we're going to have uh you know
the jetsons everyone's flying around and um you know flying cars and setting their kids to school on
the moon and you know it's just around the corner guys uh you know it's i can't even imagine
what amazing marvels are going to wait for us in the 21st century and what did we get 10 trillion
dollars spent on the war on poverty that did not result in anything, anything long-lasting,
whether it relates to IQ scores, whether it relates to test scores, whether it relates to
income inequality and such.
I mean, you know, we just wasted and wasted a shitload of money.
Just think how much corn starch that block.
I want to thank Seasider with the super chat for basically feeding me that joke.
That's funny.
But, I mean, can you just imagine, like,
Trump gets in the office again,
founds a permanent colony on Mars,
and this is the flag that they used for.
It's one small stuff.
It's one small step for man.
One huge giant leap for mankind.
But, all right, well, I can be, you know,
I'm definitely sure that none of the scholars
at Sheila Jackson Lee's high school
as she was attending are going to be working at NASA anytime soon.
But actually, you know what?
I'm wrong, actually.
You know what?
They probably will be working at NASA pretty soon the way things are going,
but not through merit.
But anything else we want to say on the space exploration and the eclipse and such?
I mean, it was quite a big phenomenon.
I mean, like there was traffic built up.
And, no, I mean, at least by me, it was pretty neat because it almost looked like
the entire world was encased in shadow or something.
It was actually kind of cool to see.
but uh no any in the backyard and totally forgot about it oh really are any of you guys uh space people
man joel are you uh are you a space guy or not really uh not so much sorry yeah yeah i know i know
i know charlie is so but i'm i'm a bit of a space nerd myself oh yeah yeah we need to uh
get out there and just you know we need to colonize and leave the rest of these scumbags behind
essentially is a nice perspective but uh we'll see how that goes yeah just a reminded i i rewatched
um a total recall uh recently and i'm just reminded you know it's just like yeah get you austimauz
get you austimauze you austimau's no it's just uh maybe maybe one day all right gents
let's move on to our uh next story uh for the evening and we're going to talk about mr rand desantis
again down in Florida.
And it just seems like as soon as DeSantis announces,
he's no longer going to be running for president anymore,
he starts doing some interesting stuff,
you know,
which should beg the question as to,
you know,
who was actually running the campaign
and who was feeding him the information of why he should run
or what have you.
But,
I mean,
I will say this.
There is now a class of like desantoid people on Twitter,
basically like all hovering around Anne Coulter at this point
who are just doing nothing but like,
you know, dunking on Trump for anything he says at this point because, like, you know, they can't attach
themselves to DeSantis anymore and they're just becoming most insufferable people in the world.
It's like, it's like Pedro, just, just apologize.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
I think you, Pete.
But, you know, just renounce your sins, Pedro.
And you could come back and hang with the cool people.
Just stop being, stop being a spur and start acting like an adult, please.
But anywho, so DeSantis came out this week and, you know, announced in the,
in the in light of all of the massive upticks and crime and retail theft you're seeing all across the country most notably in blue states and blue cities i mean it seems like every single week you see somebody in san francisco or uh or like l a i or new york or something where one of these like roaming gangs of youth walk in and they just walk out of these stores with you know 47 iPhones or 10,000 like shirts from louis Vuitton or a bunch of like purses or a bunch of like jerse's or a bunch of Nike shoes or
even like pills, like from Walgreens and stuff like this or boxes and tampons.
Who knows?
They're making out with literally everything at this point.
And so DeSantis came about and he said, no, we're going to put a stop to that.
You know, like retail theft, we're going to start prosecuting it to the full extent of the law.
So, I mean, good on DeSantis.
Other Republican governors should be doing it instead of following his suit and passing anti-Semitism bills.
But, well, I mean, isn't that the point?
All he's doing is trying to protect his own businesses.
Well.
I mean, there's definitely part of that.
But, I mean, I'll say this much.
I don't know if you guys have experienced this in your area,
but I am seeing things in like your,
just like your supermarkets,
you know, things that weren't locked up.
But they, well, things that are locked up now that weren't like that just like a year ago.
And like, okay, so I got contacts, right?
And I got to go and ask somebody to unlock the gate so I can get contact solution.
Like, really, is this the place we're fucking living in now?
Laundry pods.
Yeah.
Amazon's opening these stores where you go in and then as you put your items in the cart, it'll ring you up.
And that might be the dystopian future of retail where it's like, oh, we already have your card on file.
It's like the Uber of shopping, right?
They're going to get their money one way or another.
What's the difference between the Jets?
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
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Okay.
So, like, what's the difference between, like, a store that doesn't have anybody working there where everything's locked up and, like, totally automated, no cash, it's all credit?
Like, what's the difference between that and, like, a vending machine?
Like, none.
It's a literal glorified vending machine.
Yeah, really.
You're probably going to see clothing stores go to more appointment-based stuff.
I think they're probably moving that direction where you like would have to sign up.
Yeah, it'll be a more personalized experience.
actually get to talk somebody, they'll fit you, you know, but I think these clothing stores are
getting destroyed out of a lot of these different retail places. The worst, like this picture is Apple,
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day cards.
Fact check, true.
Yeah.
But, I mean, you know, it was already kind of, I mean, Max, we were talking about.
talking about the future of, you know, like a supermarket shopping, right? I mean, it was already
kind of moving this way with the, with the self-checkouts, which, you know, I'm of two minds
of this, right? It's like, okay, you go, you can walk over there. I don't really want to make
small talk right now. I'm just going to get in and out. I'm going to take my five things. We're
going to scan it. I'm going to go, right? And we're going to be like adults. But these things are
getting so over-engineered at this point to combat people who are just blatantly stealing shit from
them. It's like they're becoming way more hassle now at this point. And instead of doing the
other thing of, oh, okay, well, we're just going to close these self-checkout lines now. We're
going to go back to actually having the nice old lady, you know, who stands at the checkout
line. You got to go talk to her and have her check you out. Well, basically what they're doing now is
they're just making everything automated now. And they're making it these over-engineered pieces of
junk where it's like, oh, well, the weight isn't correctly distributed over the like pressure mat that
you're putting your stuff down. So could you please put your product?
back on top of this.
So it's like just the quality of life of these products is just draining everything out
of you.
It's like, are you fucking kidding me?
Now I got to fight with the machine.
Oh, the machine says I have too many items in my car.
Now I got to go flag down the one person who is working in this entire store to give me the
secret code to unlock my machine so I can get out here with my fucking five groceries now.
It's just everything is just being grinded to a halt.
And the supposed amazing first world standard of living, it's like just nothing is streamlined
at all.
The only store I haven't noticed a decrease in quality is Costco, but that's probably because it's more of a subscription-based yearly fee kind of thing.
Keeps out a bit of the riffraff.
Not that everybody's in there as a Rhodes Scholar, but there's generally like most people in their acting in good faith.
And the employees are treated pretty well.
So there we go.
There it is.
There it is.
Picture proof.
Amazing.
Well, and then, of course, you hear no end of these, you know, the cries from like civil rights organizations saying like, oh, no, we've got food deserts now in this area.
Or no, we don't have places for people to buy clothes or anything in these areas and such.
It's the white man keeping us down.
And it's like, no, how about you just stop stealing shit?
And maybe the companies won't leave.
They're in hunter-gatherer mode.
That's well, yeah.
Yeah, there's definitely.
But DeSantis' position is interesting because the governors do have the benefit of they just have to make Florida not attractive for shitbags.
Be like, look, if you're a criminal, like, yeah, you're probably not going to do hard time for stealing or whatever.
But we're going to inconvenience your life as much as possible.
Go move to Georgia.
Go move to Mississippi.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
So this is this weird enclavism that's going to keep happening in America is.
just the red states are going to be competing just with public policy to keep the shipbags
out, essentially.
I mean, I'm all in favor of this, actually, because we need to be able to prevent your enemy
from practicing their sacraments, as Charlaman likes to say.
And one of these little sacraments is just let this population group do whatever it wants,
basically. Like this population group is is literally sacred to the left. So they obviously are
cannot do any wrong whatsoever. So, um, yeah, you just need to like,
don't just pull cover for it no matter what they do. They steal. Well, it's because they're
underprivileged now. Yeah. Or it's it is so it will never be enough. Oh, I've got a good, I've got a good
anecdote.
Did go to the Costco in D.C.
And the only liquor locked up there.
People come from the tri-state area
because it's the only Costco that sells liquor and alcohol.
And the only liquor locked up was Hednessy, like, out of all of them.
And occult 45s, I imagine.
Or, uh,
yeah, it's strange.
It's,
it's wild.
So socioeconomic factors.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
exactly. It all starts with education fellows. I always remember that. I mean, yeah,
it's definitely a good step for DeSantis, for sure at least. I mean, like, you can't live in a place
where you have to worry about like flash mobs of people running in and stealing all the shit
all the time. You know, I mean, like a, like the stereotype, right, of the American mall, right?
The American mall was a place that like kids growing up, well, white kids mostly will grow up
and they'd have a little bit of spending money.
They'd walk around and get a little bit of independence now.
But you just can't go to these places anymore.
They're riddled with crime.
The riddle with gang violence.
They're riddled with theft.
You know,
like the American superstore in the mall
and just like the whole shopping experience in general,
it's just been cratered in the past several years
to a very noticeable extent.
Yeah, the mall used to be, you know,
people who are young now have no idea how fun the mall used to be
to go and hang out.
and even malls in like Georgia
around the Atlanta area
back when I started
before I even moved to Atlanta
I used to go to Atlanta
and everything was fine
and now I mean I wouldn't even go
Phipps is probably the most upscale
mall in Atlanta and I wouldn't even go there
it's just um just become a shit show
yeah look at this I remember this headline
New Yorker accuses target of racism
after discovering a store had
up darker shades of makeup and security boxes while the lighter shades were left totally unprotected.
Well, I mean, we talk about this right with the concept like being orderly and like forming a line and stuff.
It's a very Anglo thing. It's a very American thing, right?
I mean, but, you know, all these little grains of sand that make up your entire mountain of your society, right?
And if you start shipping it away and bringing in demographics that just, you know, aren't familiar with these, you know, behaviors of conduct, right?
I mean, what do you expect?
Of course, it's going to turn to shit.
And everybody else is going to suffer with it because we can't actually face the problems of, you know, crime or, you know, like Roman gangs of youth or anything like that.
So what are we going to do to fix it?
Oh, we're just going to lock everything up at inconvenience literally everybody else.
And at the same time, that just further incentivizes you to go and buy stuff from online, which is riddle with his own problems.
I mean, if everybody's listening to Blackpilds streams these days, his ongoing struggle to get his bees to live.
deliver to his place because, you know, the competency crisis has hit home with the UPS workers at this point.
I mean, you know, it's just, you know, everything's breaking at the scenes, right?
I talked with Jay Burton about this on his show, but now a lot of cities are putting in all of this
legislation requiring stores and small businesses to have armed security.
Well, it's like we were talking about last week, how Chicago is, I assume,
a Hyundai because there's not enough safety features in the cars to stop people from breaking
in and stealing them.
It's just, it's Cloud World.
Well, aren't they, wasn't there a sheriff in Canada who told people to just leave the
keys to their cars out on the porch?
Oh, come on.
There's, really?
Well, Canada's a fake country anyway, but yeah, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
they just get a joy ride they just want to go for a juror ride man just let them take a spin yeah they'll
put it right back you know well well we'll see what happens but i mean good for desantis i mean
you know under what circumstances could you possibly in any sane world say oh you know as long as you
steal nine hundred ninety nine dollars worth of merchandise like you can in the in several these
cities. You know, it's not a felony until you go above a thousand bucks, which isn't even
the case in some of these like California cases now where they actually got rid of that.
But it's like, what is the justification? Excuse me, what is the justification to see?
They attack the throat when I start talking about, you know, minority stealing shit.
Anyhow, let's catch up on the super chats here, jents. And then we can wrap up for the evening.
All right. Let's go to our, our good friend, Cody Browning for five bucks. If you think about
it, a full moon making wolves howl.
It's just one big ceiling bird.
Yeah, you know, that's, yeah, maybe there's something to do that.
Except that wolves are, you know, wolves how long is a much more pleasant sound than, you know, beep, chirp.
I just can't believe how ubiquitous it is.
You know, it's like, you see clips of like guys on ESPN, right, like getting interviewed in their house, like football players, NFL guys and such.
And you'll still hear a chirp going on in the background.
I mean, like, what, what is it?
You know, ever, ever since I heard that meme, like, sometimes I'll be next to a black person in line or whatever and they're on FaceTime.
And then I'll just hear, I'll hear the trick.
And I'm like, I can't, I honest, like, I hear it everywhere now.
It doesn't stop.
You can't turn it off.
What do you think it is?
Do you think it's like a, they just need like the constant stimulation?
Do you think they just don't know what it's the bad is?
It's a lack of curiosity.
lack of curiosity and just content with living whatever you know whatever their condition is is
their condition no curiosity maybe there's maybe they just have like such a small concept of like agency
or anything like you know they're growing up in these like section 8 housing or something and
you know it's like oh it's somebody else's problem to go change the beeping and nobody ever does
it so it's just like oh i guess we're just going to live with the beeping now i don't know maybe
do they even hear it i don't know maybe maybe it's like a
I must hear it.
Who had that tweet?
That one woman said,
oh, that's just the hallway.
It just does that.
Dude, who had the God tier tweet that was like,
you know,
the reason why Pitbulls snap is because they can hear the frequency,
like better than other dogs.
Wow.
I thought it might have been,
I guess not.
I don't know.
Maybe they use it as like a,
I don't know,
you know,
they've got like certain instruments that you like hit it
and it makes a vibration.
That's how you like you tune your instruments or your tune a beat or something like that.
Maybe it's like their version of a metronome or something.
You know,
that's how they get their rap going.
I don't know.
It's very weird.
It would ignore it.
It would bug the fucking hell out of me, man.
That's for the ethno state,
whether they can hear the chirp or not.
Yeah.
Yeah,
that's going to be on the question.
Yeah,
that's the test.
Yeah.
All righty.
Well,
you definitely got your money's worth with that super chat there,
uh,
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So take that to the bank.
All right.
Moving on to Seasider here for five bucks.
They should have informed her the moon is made of corn start.
Yeah, P.
you were referring to that earlier?
Yeah.
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Once saw an old black guy try to figure out how to open a car door for 20 minutes
before Merciful Anglos showed him how to pull the key in the door.
That can't be real.
Like surely, surely they know how to, surely they know how to operate a car door.
I don't know.
I mean, maybe that's why they have to break it to steal it.
I mean, I don't know.
Well, it's like I saw this recently, you know, like, if you ever like scrolling through
Instagram or something in the search feed, dude, that app scares me, like what it decides
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They definitely track you through other apps.
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No,
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like,
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So everybody was spreading the meme on TikTok, oh, hey, here you go.
And you can start it up like that.
That's why there was all the recalls and stuff.
So it was just low-hanging fruit, essentially.
Like, experienced car thieves know how to, you know, take a lot of different types of cars,
but, you know, low-hanging fruit.
Yep.
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Zin is 20 bucks in CVS now due to thefts raising costs.
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Eventually,
I giggle every time I see Victoria's Secret close another store.
You know what?
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That's the entire thing again.
Yeah, the entire point of Victoria's Secret is because I want to see
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You know, it's,
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Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I like that tweet every time it comes across my timeline.
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No, no.
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Sounds like you guys are whining about a few builders of America,
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You have to find the clip from NBC of Neil DeGrasse,
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Oh, Lester. Yeah, Lester Holt, explaining the eclipse.
I think I let out a primal scream.
I did not see this. I did not see this at all.
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Come on Pete you're going to point out the
Lexa Werner Epstein connection to Victoria's Secret
Haven't we just forgotten about Epstein
at this point? I mean who even
talk after October 7th and everything being
so out in the open.
It's just like, I mean,
Epstein's a meme at this point.
I mean,
they're out in themselves.
It's like,
this is just,
this is just part of the,
the current history,
the most recent history.
Yeah,
you know,
it's interesting you mentioned this,
Pete,
because I had a conversation,
I think it was with Charlene
about this,
and it might have been with some other people,
but I forget at this point.
But I was mentioning how,
like the meme of Epstein
didn't kill himself.
and such.
It's almost like it's gone to mainstream in the sense of like when I see like,
you know, basic bitch like white women on like Tinder or something having their profiles,
what's your controversial opinion?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
I'm like,
do even know any of like the actual details of this case?
Like literally our elites are ruled by like satanic pedophiles.
And like you're narrowing it down to like this weird like internet meme that I don't really
think anybody actually knows the details about.
I think there is such a thing as like going to mainstream, right?
too much of a good thing or something like that.
What do you guys think about that?
That sounds like just one and just
attaching themselves to the latest social fad
and social signaling.
Yeah, kind of just like waters down
like the actual severity of the issue, you know?
Yeah, you can talk to the most mainline progressive
you know, that's an acquaintance and they'll openly say,
you know, agree with you that Epstein didn't kill them.
So they won't go any farther and they weren't really explore it.
They're like, yeah, that's kind of shady.
Because, you know, they can't break the conditioning.
They can't break, you know, they can't go off script, essentially.
They know, but such a.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you ask someone what their edgiest opinion is and they give you a meme.
What do you do?
What do you do?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
All right.
That is us all caught up on the super chats.
And with that, we're going to close down the show.
So we'll go around here, get some.
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Yeah, just dropping episodes reading through Camp of the Saints right now.
And see, I think part five of that, which is just one chapter.
I mean, like an insanely long chapter.
That'll be out tomorrow.
And yeah, just episode after episode, dropping some stuff on the substack.
And, you know, seeing if I can get kicked off.
Twitter.
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We'll see you guys then.
Ready for huge savings?
We'll mark your calendars from November 28 to 30th because the Liddle Newbridge Warehouse Sale is back.
We're talking thousands of your favorite Liddle items all reduced to clear.
From home essentials to seasonal must-habs.
When the doors open, the deals go fast.
Come see for yourself.
The Liddle New Bridge Warehouse Sale, 28th to 30th of November.
Little more to value.
Those people who love going out shopping for Black Friday deals,
they're mad, aren't they?
Like, proper mad.
Brenda wants a television and she's prepared to fight for it,
if you ask me.
It's the fastest way to a meltdown.
Me, I just prepare the fastest way to get stuff
and it doesn't get faster than Appliancesdelivered.aE.
Top brand appliances, top brand electricals,
and if it's online, it's in stock.
With next day delivery in Greater Dublin.
Appliances delivered.aE.
Part of expert electrical.
See it.
Buy it, get it tomorrow.
Or, you know, fight Branda.
You catch them in the corner of your eye.
Distinctive, by design.
They move you, even before you drive.
The new Cooper plugin hybrid range.
For Mentor, Leon and Terramar.
Now with flexible PCP finance and trade-in boosters of up to 2000 euro.
Search Coopera and discover our latest offers.
Cooper.
design that moves
finance provided by way of higher purchase agreement
from Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited
subject to lending criteria
Terms and conditions apply
Volkswagen Financial Services Ireland Limited
Trading as Cooper Financial Services
is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland
