The Pete Quiñones Show - 'A Strange Thing Happened When I Looked Into Anti-Semitism' w/ Philo's Miscellany

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

95 MinutesSome Strong LanguagePhilo's Miscellany has a YouTube channel in which he reviews rare books.Pete invited Philo to talk about his journey. Philo's mother is Jewish; he has spent time in Israel, but when he started to research the history of anti-Semitism, he experienced a paradigm shift in his thinking.Philo's YouTube ChannelPete and Thomas777 'At the Movies'Support Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's Substack Pete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekiniena show. I'm here with Philis Miscellany. I'm just calling you Philo, all right? Go for it. Because anyone who listens to this show all the time knows it. I'm just going to, I'm going to screw that up. How are you doing? I'm doing very well, very well.

It's very much a trip to be on your show. I'm a huge fan, and most people I know in the space are very into your show and have very positive opinions of you. Well, I appreciate that. I appreciate hearing that. Just try to have interesting people on interesting conversations and, you know, as many conversations as other people, you know, maybe, you know, frightened to have. But why don't you tell everybody a little bit about yourself?

Yeah, so a little bit about me. I'm a Jewish guy, born and raised. Kind of saw all angles of it. I was never into the black hat Harati Orthodox Judaism. but I was very much steeped in that culture, made familiar of all the Jewish myths, became very aware of anti-Semitism, lived for a while in Israel, without going into too much specifics. Eventually, I realized that the anti-Semitism thing had too much of itself to really be true. And I started digging into it, researching a little more into the sources, the people, the history, Is it really a coincidence about how many countries Jews were expelled from?

Is there really nothing that the Jews ever did wrong? And once that frame sort of shifted, I began to look into it. And this kind of led me down this path to where I find myself agreeing with guys like you, I suppose. Well, I should always ask what guys like me are. This is where I'm at, okay? I've read a lot, and I've read, I like to read Jewish firsthand sources, and also anything that's written by Gentiles, by non-Jews, I want there to be an overwhelming amount of their sources to come from like Jewish encyclopedias or even today Jewish virtual library. And I came to the conclusion that there's this incredible history with this people who don't seem to fit in anywhere, yet they fit in everywhere. But the way they fit in everywhere is odd.

It's not as part of the culture. It's not, and I guess, what do we do? Do we have to do the disclaimer in the beginning that, you know, oh, we're not talking about every Jew out there. Obviously, you know, you're somebody who can be self-critical and somebody who can examine themselves and examine, you know, their heritage. But I see this group that is probably the most interesting group I've ever read anything about. and it probably would just be a curiosity at most if they if people calling themselves Jews and having last names that are historically Jewish weren't basically at the top position at the top of every cultural, political, financial, you name it, um, movement.

company, whatever it is. And it seems to me that when they do start getting influence in a certain location, they start to work to change it to what they think it should be like. And the question I've been asking is, is if that is true, then that It's a discussion that needs to be had openly. For sure. So I guess the, to my mind, the starting issue is that as a Jew, I would have less of an issue with the religion and the conduct and the public relations and the propaganda if there is a level of honesty to it. people are more comfortable in 2024 noticing this double standard that seems to be apparent between Jews and whites.

The quality of life for most people in the West is starting to deteriorate pretty quickly. And the propaganda that was designed by Jews like Edward Bernays was pretty much designed to keep Western people either ambivalent, complacent, or just kind of mildly positive. about Jews. But this kind of propaganda only really works in a system that can provide financial and narrative security for non-Jews and their children. So when America was a 90% white nation, you could have this little outgroup that would have disproportionate control over media and politics and finances and entertainment. But when there seems to be, instead of a kind of of gentle hand steering things, it becomes much more heavy, much more restrictive, much more overtly acting in power. It starts to create a lot of issues. So I have a lot of theories about

why that is. I'm not of the opinion that Jews are responsible for every issue in the West, but I do think that they're somewhat involved disproportionately relative to the amount of problems that this country has. And yeah, that's one thing that I would say, like I mentioned on a live stream the other day that the way they're trying to take down Trump with the election thing and everything. I mean, you can find Jewish names who are involved in that, but I don't blame that. I blame that on, you know, progressives, whoever, whomever. I'm not going to blame it, blame them on everything.

And then, you know, when you look in Europe, there's still this class. this older class of, um, of European that really wants to stick it to America. And yeah, sure, sure, a lot of them are financed, should be financed by Jews and a lot of them could be Jews. But I don't say it's everything. Everything is a Jew's fault. Um, it is just that things that are things that I look at that I think affect the culture and I mean, affect the culture in, um, it. It is just that, ways that have fundamentally changed it in the last, I would say, 70 years that my, you know, my grandparents would, you know, my great-grandparents, who I actually knew a couple of my great-grandparents, they wouldn't know what this was. They wouldn't, they wouldn't even recognize what this country was.

And, you know, and then, of course, banking and foreign policy now. And I think it's, pretty, it's become pretty clear that, um, people, people from a, from a background of Judaism or call themselves Jews, whatever. So many of them are just atheists, called them, openly call themselves atheists. Um, you control the foreign policy for a while. I think there may be a little bit of a fight going on right now within, within the State Department. I've seen traces and, uh, evidence of that. But, um, yeah, I mean, when you, you know, when you look at the head of pharmaceutical companies, when you look at, when you look at banking, when you look at, when you look at the White House, the State Department, I mean, it's, it's hard not to use that word notice that a group that's 2.4% of the population is vastly overrepresented in pretty much. everything that pertains to power and culture, which is power as well.

For sure. So I guess the question for the conversation is, do we discuss kind of why Jews are like this? Or do you prefer to talk about why Jews control such an outsized amount of power in the United States? Well, from reading, I have my own opinions on both. I mean, they're not my own opinions. I mean, it's opinions I've formed from reading other people's commentary and diagnosis. But I mean, sure, let's start with at least like the metaphysical or, you know, the psychological. I know you said that you heard episode 995 when I read Loren Gigno's Israel, the psychopathic nation. And I think that letter had an impact on a lot of people upon hearing it because basically all he's doing is quoting Jewish scholars and Jewish authors and famous, famous Jews. So if you want to go in that direction, sure.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, one of them that I liked even such a big name like Emil Durkheim. So just I guess to start off with the field of psychology. and psychiatry is Jewish. There is no field without Jews. Everything from Freud's concepts to neuroses to being psychologically disordered. Those are all libidinal urges. All of these Freudian ideas are kind of emblematic of subconscious, like Jewish traits, I guess,

or that there's like this, let me back up a bit here. As a Jewish young person, the way that you're raised, because chances are you're not going to be a Jewish person raised in Israel, Jews were raised as being set apart within their host country. And usually their identity as Jews is predicated upon a few different foundational myths. So the first one is, that the Jews are taught is from a young age is that identity is much more ancient and more developed and more special in contrast to non-Jews.

So this is the Jewish universalism that frames who and what non-Jews are to each individual Jew. So each Jew kind of has themselves a concept of a collectivist identity with other Jews that really they're getting from a very, very young age. The second element that kind of comes along with Jews from a young age is the particularism that their family has a story of persecution. And if their family doesn't, then the Holocaust collectively is that story that supplants it that makes them as an individual Jew a target of anti-Semitism or non-Jews.

Jewish aggression or host country oppression. Every Jewish family that I knew has like a big barrier between the persecution of Jews as a whole and like the persecution of the individual. So what that kind of means is that each, like every Jew has this duality of both universalism and your special and your identity. is something that's special and more ancient than the other people around you, and also that you're more oppressed than everybody else that you know. So this kind of creates a concept mentally for Jews from a young age that with their identity, they feel a lot of shame and insecurity and paranoia. So if somebody says something that's offensive about Jews or broadly categorizing,

Jews kind of have this reaction of both shame and anger. And it's something that I've seen in every Jew that I've met. A great book on this is Ordeal of Civility by John Murray Cuddehy. Have you read that? I have not. Ordeal to civility? Ordeal of civility. Ordeal of civility.

I have not. It was recommended by Bronze Age Pervert. It's by an Irish guy. and it talks about how Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud and Emil Dirkheim, these founders in various fields and very, very,

probably the most influential Jews of the 19th century, that they came to their host countries of England and Germany as essentially total outsiders and then their ideology, so what makes Karl Marx famous is communism, what makes Freud, famous is his development of neuroses and psychology.

What causes them to develop these ideas is that they're coming from a background where they're reacting to the WASP and white cultural norms that dominate the world around them. So there's kind of this inferiority and shame about their identity that colors their perspective and ultimately paints how they view themselves within their host nation. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. I have a tendency to believe that if somebody is brought up being told that they're special, but also that everybody you meet wants to hurt you,

that's more of a recipe for narcissism than anything else. I mean, I think the Jews are primarily, that's no narcissistic. That's why I was very much inspired by your series on Israel as a psychopathic nation, because the psychopath has narcissistic tendencies. And there's a certain tendency to also not really allow any kind of dissent. So I guess one real world example of this would be that since October 7th, there's been the Israel-Gaza war that's been ongoing. And there's been a lot of pressure from Israel and from Jews around the world to kind of get global support for themselves.

And it's a very strange thing because I'll think a lot of the world is looking at this conflict where there's 25,000 people dead, 60,000 casualties. And people that aren't Jews are saying, why should I support you? Why should I be on your side? when the propaganda from it is very moralizing, if that makes sense. So, like, it's an ethno-narcissistic tendency to not only conduct certain actions, but also to expect everyone to support you and believe that your actions are morally just as a universal. Well, you mentioned that episode and the subject you'd mentioned. Actually, I have a clip here from that episode that touches upon that.

Let me play this. And it's two minutes long. Sure. Yeah. All right. So I'm going to do that now. The innocent victim. The psychopath is unable to see the other person's point of view and criticism strikes him as

irrational aggression. This is the reaction of the Jewish elites to criticism. to them it can be nothing other than the expression of visceral anti-Semitism, an adivistic, goyish disease. Chudeophobia is a psychosis, wrote Leo Pinsker, a founding father of Zionism, a hereditary demonic madness, a congenital perversion of human mentality, passed down for 2,000 years. Incurable. If it's incurable, what's the implication if it's incurable? I mean, to any reasonable person, I would say, man, we should probably stay away from those people. Yeah.

But heal the world, man. The psychopath does not know the feeling of guilt. He constantly plays innocent. Those who get in his way or even cast a shadow over his path are solely responsible for their own destruction. Their accusations are baseless fabrications, their anger and irrational hatred. One thing that Judaism is quoting, one thing that Judaism is, has, which other spiritualities lack, is innocence, explains And Andre Neer, one of the leaders of the Jewish School of Thought of Paris with Emmanuel Levinus and Leon Ashkenazi. Guy's name was literally

Leon Ashkenazi. Quoting, we are innocent and we feel even more deeply that we are innocent when we are accused. It is this innocence that we must be aware of at present and that we must never deny, never in any circumstance. And it works. You will understand nothing of anti-Semitism, wrote Jean-Paul Sart. If you fail to remember that the Jew, that object of so much hatred, is perfectly innocent, nay, harmless, 1946, titled anti-Semite and Jew. So there's, in that two minutes, there's a lot there. When I asked my friend Aaron, when I said, is, what's the implication of Leo Pinsker saying that anti-Semitism was incurable? What I was asking him, what I thought he would understand by me asking him, and it seems

that I was, I was the only one who understood it was, well, if it's uncurable, then we're a disease that needs to be eradicated. Anyone who exhibits, anyone who would say that a Jew is not innocent can't be cured what happens when something can't be cured then and it's dangerous to you and it's like it's like mori samuel said in you gentiles you'll never please us we're only going to go forward until we control we we control everything or you're gone well i'm i'm reminded of i mean how so like i said earlier psychiatry itself is a Jewish invention pretty much entirely. And much of the terminology that's used by Leo Pinsker is sort of medical terminology here.

He's using words like psychosis, hereditary, congenital. How does psychiatry tend to handle these conditions that it invents and then sees and inculcates in people, these neuroses? Well, kind of what has to happen for somebody who has medical and uncurable ailments is they have to always be numbed. They have to basically not really be fully aware of their own biases or their condition. They have to be constantly attended to by the psychiatrist. and they also have to, in some cases, sign over total individual control to the psychological establishment. They can become a basket case. And that's like a pretty strange analogy, but I think that's how Jews tend to view on a grander scale most non-Jews or like the host or native

populations of the United States and the West. They're just people that have to be medicated or controlled or tamed or neutered. Does that sort of make sense as an analogy? It makes sense. And while you were saying that, a few feet away from you, I had my first my first edition authoritarian personality was sitting. Oh, is that from Adorno? Yeah.

And it's excellent, excellent. It was commissioned in 1950. The study was commissioned by the American Jewish committee. This was copyright 1950. And basically what you were saying,

if it's incurable, well, you have to find some way to medicate it. You have to find, and that's pretty much what they talk about in this book. They talk about, you know, people, it's dangerous if people, the family is dangerous. Religion is dangerous. They go so far as to one of the questions is, do you think that somebody who hurts a child,

should they be punished beyond the law? And when I first heard that, I was like, that's a really weird question. And then I remembered Leo Frank. And I think that was basically referring to Leo Frank. And also another thing that they say at the very end of the book is that, you know, one of the cures for this is Eros. And anyone who knows anything about, you know, what Eros would refer to,

it would be to sensuality, pornography, things like that. So, yeah, what you were saying made a lot of sense to me so much so that I had to go get my copy here because, yeah, it seems like, you know, people, when you bring out this book and you start talking about it, people are like, well, I mean, okay, so it was put together by the American Jewish community and pretty much everyone who wrote it. and did the study was Jewish. But, I mean, that doesn't mean anything, you know, because

as, as Lorraine Gignon said in the book, said in his article, when a Jew is attacked, every Jew is attacked. But if a Jew is a torturer, they have to be

judged as an individual. Their Judaism can't have anything to do with it. And the same thing happens when you bring books out like this that have obviously come true, was obviously a plan that was put into place. And when you see what they sought to do, I mean, they haven't done it to everyone, but they've done it to enough of the population of the United States. And enough people in charge, Jewish and Goyem, have adopted this as a strategy to keep people in line that you have to look at that and go, yeah, well, if they saw us as if we were

diagnosed as incurable, even though all these racist white guys went over there and won the war for you there in the 1940s, well, something needed to be done with them. Oh, and it's crazy. And one other interesting element is even to get those racist white guys going over there in the first place, you had to have, what was this name? Frank Capri? Frank Capra construct, I think, 10 different films on propaganda. They state mandated propaganda for the entry until World War II, which is something that Revel O.P. Oliver talks about in this book, America's Decline. That's a bit of a tangent. I guess it's interesting because I sort of got started researching anti-Semitism just as a pure curiosity and based on my own identity. And the more I got into it, and especially changing concepts of anti-Semitism during the 20th century, it became more and more obvious that this was not just some sort of subconscious irrational force that just rises up periodically

if it's not suppressed to attack Jews, which is generally how Jewish people view anti-Semitism. The mindset there is kind of innately structured around this mentality that you're always going to be a victim if anti-Semitism is not contained, which leads to some really psychotic behavior such as BDS laws in the United States, which is paradoxically drawing more attention to Jews than is useful. This is sort of my meta-criticism of the way Jews handle the concept of anti-Semitism now is that it becomes something that's just ever expansive, whereas it seems as though prior to the 21st century, this was something that was always used a little bit more like a scalpel to kind of manage and influence and control. But because people have bought into propaganda internally

on the Jewish side, it's become this thing that's basically outside of control at this point. Well, you know the meme that an anti-Semite used to be someone who hated Jews and now it's somebody the Jews hate. Oh, yeah. I mean, look at the ADL website. If I look at the ADL website right now and I look at the glossary of extremism and hate, there's over a thousand results. And nobody can tell me that there's all of these, there's a thousand examples of anything that are not. nothing but extremism and hate. And who gets to designate what that is? Jonathan Greenblatt? So the, I mean, it's actually pretty,

it's pretty insane to see how far the ADL has fallen. This is something that actually was a big topic last year, is how much sloppier the propaganda and the labeling of things as anti-Semitic has kind of fallen. I have a bunch of theories on why this is, I'm happy to take this wherever you want to go with it. Well, sure, if you want to. Yeah, I mean, the ADL, I did a three-part series with a lawyer friend of mine, Tyler, and we looked at the Leo Frank case, and he got into the trial and everything, how that broke down.

But basically, the ADL cut their teeth with that. The ADL existed in another form before then, but that's really where they came out of. Yeah, I mean, I don't know that the ADL could have ever, I don't know that they've ever done good work. They seem to be a propaganda outfit yet I have not read the whole history of the ADL. I'm sure, you know, even, I'm sure even today they, you know, broken clock kind of thing. Every once in a while they get one right. But, you know, most of my history with the ADL just seems to be them, you know, Green Black going on the news and saying, we're just a small nonprofit.

Ridiculous. And they have headquarters, the headquarters in multiple countries throughout the world. I mean, they're one of the most powerful nonprofits in the world. I mean, who does he think he's fooling? A lot of, a lot of Jews I know actually have a huge problem with Greenblatt. And, yeah, so there's a lot going on there. But if you look at like the proto history of the ADL, so if you, I guess I kind of have to rewind a little bit here. Before the ADL, there was the B'nai Brith organization.

And they were kind of a combination of socialists and paramilitaries and a lot of their activities were kind of bound up to the episode that you had with Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson on the history of the pogroms in Russia. And who were the organizations that were controlling and organizing and directing all of this? Like a lot of Jewish organizational construction comes from the Jewish revolutionary spirit. There's no kind of real other way around it. E. Michael Jones has a phenomenal work on this where he analyzes this is kind of an omnipresent trait of Jews. he looks at it from the time period of when they killed Christ all the way to the modern day. But I'm getting off topic here. Essentially, the ADL came about as an organization from Benebreath.

Benebreath was an organization that was kind of loosely affiliated with Zionism and then also with communism and socialism. And there's all these different revolutionary and anti-state ideologies that are bound up in it. But if we're looking strictly at just the function of the ADL today, it's almost a superfluous organization because there's nothing else left for it to censor. It used to go after the Birch Society in the 1960s, and it used to go after the Klan in the 1970s and 80s. And its legacy today is going after Twitter posters. So this is, as an institution, it's sort of losing its overall purpose and just kind of becoming another one of these interchangeable progressive cancellation organizations that's heavily funded and legalized and so on. Well, if we're going to talk about anti-Semitism, it's not, you talked about how juicy anti-Semitism.

I mean, I've tried to have discussions about this. I mean, having a discussion on social media is just the most. But any time I've tried to have a discussion face to face with somebody, it works a whole lot better. When you look at 109 countries, some people say it's 110, 110, 111 now, over a thousand expulsions from different locations. you because what the what the what the what the what learned lorraine gigno what um people he was quoting said you just can't admit that you've ever done anything wrong then it's always somebody else's fault you know and i've asked the question numerous times that said how can somebody But how can two countries, one that may not have existed, but a thousand years apart,

have the same opinion, and they're 2,000, and they're 1,000 miles away from each other, they've never met. They never, in their whole, you know, they existed at different times, have the same opinion about this group of people. And it's, when you ask that question, it's immediately like self, We cannot allow this self-reflection because if one Jew admits that a Jew did something wrong, it reflects on all of us. Yeah, the way I personally feel about it is, just speaking very frankly, Jews did things that up end of the power structure, they pushed things too far. they engaged in questionable behavior religiously in these various countries, and they also got

too close to the elite and too far away from the average person. That's one of the things that Brenner Sombart talks about in the Jews in modern capitalism is that a lot of times a ruler in a local area would hear about these people. that can help him make money, help him get rich. And they would invite them in. And what would happen was other Jews would follow them. The merchant class would follow them. And so where he's invited one person or a group in to help him invest his money,

things like that to help him grow his riches, now the merchant class comes in and they start lending to local populations. And usury is in. is introduced to areas where usury does not, where usury is considered a sin in most of these areas. And a lot of times that would happen. Immediately people would recognize it as a sin and chase people out, chase them out.

But a lot of times people would just be, if they were desperate enough, they'd be like, okay, let's do this. And eventually what's going to happen years down the line is, is that they're going to see that this usury has basically turned them into, annuities and slaves to these people. Solzhenyneeson talks about that happening in the Pellate settlement in Russia.

And then they demand, well, they go to the leader and say, well, you know, you're getting rich over here and we're getting poorer. And they eventually, they're eventually chased out. And when I look at that situation, I'm like, I understand it. I understand that now. I look around the United States. I look at if you look at mortgage tables on an average loan if you don't if people people who don't understand how mortgage tables on an average loan works on a on a on a even on a 3% loan.

I mean if if somebody points that out to you and you're not like what the holy fuck is going on here there then you're just brainwashed you've you're your your your whole sense. society has basically become Jewish, right down to the point where you're willing to do anything to, you're willing to accept and fight for compound interest in usury and all of these things that have, that basically, you know, every 10, 12 years blow up in people's faces and destroy lives, literally destroy lives to the point of people taking their own lives. Oh, absolutely. And the thing that struck me is I kind of went down this rabbit hole. I don't want to call it a rabbit hole because it's basically all true, is that nearly every aspect of world history has this kind of element to it in the West. Even stuff as obscure as the Italian city states and the trading Venetian merchant empire depended upon usury and trade and rates and investment. and long-term planning with the Svalidic Jewish population.

The English Civil War and Oliver Cromwell and the protectorate, and then later the development of mercantilism in England, coupled with the Puritan morality for people, that you set apart starting in the English Civil War, the city of London, and London proper. And you enabled an entirely different financial, set of regulations and rules to be conducted within this very small area within London that's arbitrarily divided off. And even to this day conducts a huge amount of financial activity

separate from the British economy and separate from London itself. And so everywhere you look in history, especially in the West, whenever you see some sort of massive financial shift or change in usury rates or influence in political parties or even revolutions. Generally, the Jews are there. And I wish this wasn't the case. Like, as a Jew, I wish it was not the case that Jews would be responsible for all of these things.

Some of them, they probably aren't, but most of them, it's the case. So the other thing that concerns me about it is that with usury and with the psychiatry, the 20th century was kind of the historical moment for Jews. We got the state of Israel, we got a country, we had most control of Hollywood, the media, general broad shutouts or forbidden areas for Jews to go in and in the United States were eradicated. Jews basically got everything that we wanted in the United States in the 20th century, pretty much without exception. And then what do we have to show for it now? basically there's my

my big issue is that there's not a limiting or a corrective mechanism that once these usury tactics start and once financial control starts and once the propaganda starts there's not like a clear delineated stopping point there's not like a moral impetus from

Jews to get a handle on this thing so I could ramble on about this But that's my big issue, right? It would be one thing if there was like a breaking mechanism on this issue. But it seems throughout history, through 109 countries and over 1,000 expulsions, that Jews will do it until they are physically driven out of their host countries. Yeah. And it only seems to add to the narrative.

It only seems to add to the specialness that, you know, as Owen Benjamin says, you get to act like special boys because, you know, you didn't do anything wrong. And yet you were, you were punished. I've never seen,

I've never heard of a group that thrived so much on being hated to the point where, I forget who it was quoting in the, in the Gignor article, but he said, he said that, um,

he as long as there is as long as there was an anti-Semite in the world i'll be jewish i'll call myself jewish and i'm to me that doesn't make it doesn't make any logical sense it says it's all emotion there's there's not really a logical element to this um how do i put this Like the way this kind of came about for Jews, this kind of mentality, is that between most American Jews arriving in the United States and these other countries, these other 109 countries that they fled from, at some point, every Jewish family in its history, usually between three and five generations ago, has a story of persecution. And there's a host country. It's Germany or it's mostly Russia and Eastern Europe and the Ashkenazi Jews or it's the Arab Jews. There's some history of persecution there that is genuine. They were genuinely driven out of the area in which they lived and they came to the United States.

But there's also this memory gap for modern Jews. So one thing that I've noticed internal to Judaism is that grandparents don't pass on the host, like the Lithuanian or the Ukrainian or the Russian language or culture or customs. They don't pass down Yiddish. They don't pass down memorabilia. They don't talk about the experience in the old country. It's something that's alluded to. But immigrant roots and customs throughout the 20th century for American Jews,

Jews were totally forgotten. So basically the like Jews were driven out the way I'm seeing it now is that Jews were driven out of these countries and they wanted a totally clean start. And they chose not to pass along their heritage and their history and their family stories to their children and grandchildren. This is universal. If you look at Larry David, a famous comedian wrote Seinfeld, I'm sure you're, know him. There was a thing where he went on his ancestry on YouTube. It's this big rival video. And he finds out that his mother changed her name and was born in a different country than he thought that she was. And this is not like, that sounds kind of crazy. This sounds like something

that you wouldn't see happen. This would be like a one in a million case. But most Jewish families, most Ashkenazi Jewish families, have some history of basically the entire family's past between three and five generations ago and further back is completely erased. So basically the lessons of what happens when you push a host country too far are forgotten for modern and young Jews. And the whole cycle kind of restarts itself. That's my kind of theory. This could be totally batshit insane. I should stress, but that's my kind of theory on why modern Jews aren't learning from this. Well, you know, we've talked a lot about history here, even gotten into Italian city states and everything, a little bit of Russia.

But, you know, we need to talk about now. We need to talk. I want to talk about this country. Sure. And, you know, I'm going to play a video. I told you about it before the, before I played a little bit of a before you. And this is, there's a woman in this who is going to be talking. It's only her. This is put out by, um, a group called, she's part of a group called Jews on campus. And Jews on campus is funded by the world Jewish Congress. Now people can hear the world Jewish Congress and they can be like, okay, well, I mean, I never heard of that before. This is a billion dollar organization that funds things all over the world.

So basically this video was put out to brag about the changes that Jews have helped to make in this country. Now, I'll play the video and then I'll ask a question afterwards, after the video is over. So, all right. I am Jewish and proud because Jews have always done what's right. We've led the fight for gay rights. Harvey Milk fought to ban discrimination based on sexual orientation. Eddie Windsor was a leader in the fight for marriage equality. Miriam Ben Shalom challenged the ban on gay people serving in the military.

We've helped lead the fight for racial justice. Our rabbis are BFFs with MLK. Together with black leaders, Jews helped to establish over 20 HBCUs. During the Civil Rights Movement, Jews were disproportionately involved in the protests. We've led the fight for women's rights. for equal pay and the right to choose and against discrimination in the workplace. Jews were also among the first on the ground in Turkey, Ukraine, and Haiti. In Judaism, when it comes to helping others, no action is too big or too small.

The Jewish principle of Takunalam tells us that we have the power to change the world. And there are so many ways to do that. And this is why I am Jewish and proud. What you're not seeing if you're just listening to this is the, I mean, I almost feel like she's trolling us. by having an all-seeing eye necklace on. Okay, so she's basically saying, on behalf of the world Jewish Congress, mind you, that Jews are responsible for gay rights in this country,

for gay marriage, they're responsible for abortion, they're responsible for women's suffrage, they're responsible for the civil rights movement, they're BFFs, with Dr. King, his biggest BFF, mind you. I can't remember what his name is right now, but help with the, when the Rosenbergs were put on trial for treasonous,

he helped them. And, you know, he was part of the communist movement. And basically, all of these things, all of these movements, all of these changes in the culture, she's taking credit for it. She's saying the Jews are responsible for. Again, on behalf of the World Jewish Congress, she's saying this, that a lot of people, a lot of people look back on now and say, we didn't ask for that. And, oh, why did you do that?

Yeah, so, like, why put out this video? Is that way you're asking? No, no. I mean, I mean, I understand. I mean, the hubris is is astounding. I mean, some of the stuff that Jonathan Greenblatt put out like when when Roe v. Wade was overturned about how Jewish is, you know, abortion is a Jewish sacrament, things like that. I mean, like 60 organizations were saying that abortion is basically a Jewish value. So the bragging about it has nothing, I'm used to it. I'm beyond it. It's, okay, if you're telling people that you did this and people didn't know that you did this, I mean, and then people get mad and start asking, why the fuck did you do this? Why did you destroy my country? What do you expect some people's reactions to be? I guess they're counting on total submissiveness.

I think that my take my like kind of internal perspective here looking at this, the only reason you would put something like this out implicitly is to bring young progressive Jews on board with the narrative. They're too concerned about young Jewish college students getting inculcated by progressivism and not Zionism. They're perfectly happy to have a certain amount of it, but the ultimate purpose has to be to benefit Israel to advance the revolutionary spirit. It can't be to just, you can't do the progressivism without giving back to the Jewish community. That's the kind of mindset they're trying to inculcate in people. And I guess to answer your question specifically about why would they, like, why would, you know,

why would they point out all of these things that they're doing that people very much recognized contributes to almost all of the social issues in this country is a massive problem? I think they're banking on the fact that most WASP people, most white people watching this video are just going to get outraged and do nothing. I mean, just speaking very frankly. Well, it's the training. It's the training of, you know, somebody who watches that, somebody, you know, some Goyam who watches that. And it's just like, well, I mean, they're, I mean, we're trained to judge everybody's individuals. Well, only this group. I mean, you know, you can hear people say, well, you know, black crime's pretty amazing.

Black crime, you know, someone like Scott Adams will talk about how, you know, if black people are, if black people are dangerous and they're, if black people are saying that you're the enemy and you're. you're colonizers and you know maybe some maybe you should stay away from them but when you try to point out to them there's like you know all these things that you don't like DEI civil rights act you know me he might like civil rights act but um all this stuff immigration yeah he said today that he made the statement today that immigration that he is the only explanation for the Texas border is that Joe Biden is getting paid off by the cartels. And I'm one of those people who remember is that, you know, back in 2011, 2012, Barbara Ler Specter, Jewish, American, moved to Sweden, had a big outfit over there,

said that I think there's a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time, Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It's a huge transformation for Europe to make. And they are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.

So this insane person is basically saying that Europe will not survive unless it is overrun, unless the Middle East and Africa empties its prisons. They pour into Europe. And that Jews are responsible for this. We just want you to know. And we also know that anti-Semitism is going to happen because of it. can can someone fucking explain to me how people have told me that that that that basically seeing that that video of her and then knowing that what she said was going to happen happen that turned

them into anti-semites i mean how do you judge somebody how do you continue to judge people as individuals when they're taking credit as a group and everything they say they're going to do fucking happens yeah i don't know what to tell you i wish i had some kind of logical answer but remember that this group and it's not all jews but it's especially bad in the most elite influential jews um they simply there's not an awareness of consequences That's the like the best explanation that I have because they because they because they whenever they suffer consequences for their action they thrive on it. Whenever they're persecuted they consider it to be a virtue or they go somewhere else

but yeah. But if they go somewhere else they say oh this happened to us. it becomes part of the identity. I mean, literally, I went to four different high schools. I got kicked out of two of them. I don't ever, I don't usually bring that up because it's not something I'm particularly, one of them I'm kind of proud of, but one of them I'm not proud of. Why would I, why would I be proud of fucking up?

And then when somebody calls me on it or someone punishes me for it, it's the Punisher's fault. And then when I go somewhere else, I act like a special boy. Well, one element that I'll kind of, one thing that could explain this, take it or leave it, is that whenever anti-Semitism is mentioned or it's brought up or somebody's accused of it, there's always some authority or enforcement mechanism to make sure that, anti-Semitism is quote unquote contained or eradicated and that it doesn't really get back to Jewish people.

So there's kind of this guilt-tripping thing and looking very recently at the latest kind of Harvard president, Ivy League back and forth with the knocked out Claudine Gay and they replaced her with the most stereotypical Jewish man alive. it's uh you know it's this it's it's this issue of there always has you know you can kind of conduct yourself okay okay let me like let me frame this in like a disney cartoon kind of sense of the victim that gets beat up by the bully always runs to the teacher to enforce the separation and to punish that's basically what's happening on a society-wide scale There's always some authority that's levied against it.

I wish I had some kind of rational explanation, but that's the best I can do. I understand. The more I read, and especially I like that you brought up, you know, that basically psychology, psychology and psychiatry are Jewish, you know, Jewish practices. because they say that the psychiatrist and the psychologist cannot analyze himself. And that just seems to, that almost seems too perfect. It almost seems too perfect that the discipline by which someone would be analyzed, they can't analyze themselves because they created it so that they,

They, obviously, if they created it, they're seeing it in somebody else. Maybe they're seeing it in themselves, but it doesn't seem that way. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing's just a freaking racket. I mean, I was thinking about this, watching The Sopranos, if you have the therapist talking to the other therapist because they cannot analyze themselves in their own problem. And it's like, why would you let these, this like population subgroup of incredibly highly educated, neurotic, anxious people dictate behavior and medication for the majority of

proletariat. It's absolutely crazy when you sort of think about it. And it ultimately, in my mind, like psychology and psychiatry, they're perversions of religion. This is where ordinary people 100, 200 years ago would have religion. But nowadays, when somebody's mentally ill, I mean, also don't even get me started on the concept of like mental illness and all these YouTube ads for mental health and taking SSRIs and on and on and on and on. That's just kind of getting back to what I mentioned right at the start, which is that the greatest suppression of this, the greatest cure for this, is to just kind of numb people.

That's why a Jew runs Pornhub. That's why SSRIs are marketed to everybody who feels anything other than economically efficient. And that's also why the authority of the state is levied against anybody who's considered an enemy. Any nail that sticks out has to be flattened in. Yeah. And it seems that really it just got, through the centuries,

when you really start reading the history, through the centuries, the Jewish people, the wanderers, and, you know, it's pretty much always the elite. So it's one thing I got from reading, reading Solzhenycin was just how much the Jewish elites and the pale of settlement would, they would treat the lower class of Jews just as poorly as they treated the Russians that were around them. Treated them like complete garbage and taxed them through the taxed our own people in another country. It's just mind-boggling. But they had influence. They could influence a role.

or they could influence a finance minister. They could influence power. But they never really had any real power. With the 20th century, that changed. And it doesn't escape me how fast since that changed or on the verge of losing civilization. Oh, yeah. And I know when you bring that up, it's like,

well, that's what Hitler said. And they're going to fuck yourself. I don't care. But look at the way civilization's gone downhill, especially since the Bolshevik revolution. I mean, it just seems like everything is, you know, the arrow, the arrow was shot out. And it's still going, but it is just, it's going, it's falling closer and closer to the ground. And with everything, it doesn't matter. Culture, morals, religion, finance, especially.

governance. I mean, the government we have now, the U.S. government is a punchline at best. At worst, it's too dangerous to exist. And what I say, they're too dangerous to exist. I think they're, they won't even have to, no one is even going to have to over it. They're going to do it to themselves. Can you imagine Biden getting reelected? And can you imagine like, or like a left-wing authoritarian making it into office? And I mean, it would last a year. Not that there would be any kind of revolution. I'm not calling for, you're only supposed to use violence and self-defense. But it doesn't seem to me that this can last. And it doesn't escape me that.

It also happens to coincide right around the time that Jewish people go from being influential to power to becoming power. Mm-hmm. Yeah, why go through the effort of managing somebody else? But the interesting thing, like, if I was like the arch Jew that was controlling and managing everything, and I wanted the system to actually survive, I would let Trump win. I would let Trump win and do what happened in the first term, which is to have a bunch of Jewish advisors, but to ease up on the economy and the social issues. You would give the left something to do. And you would basically allow the country a chance to kind of collect its bearings.

I mean, if that's really what you were trying, if you wanted a civilization to survive, that's what you would do. I mean, I'm a young person, right? So what do I know? But essentially looking at it and looking at the issues that we had 10 years ago, there was this mindset that things would gradually get better, or at the very least something would be resolved over time. But instead, there's kind of this weird complacency where no one in political power wants to take direct agency over a single issue,

because that would kind of compromise their ability to, financially benefit from it and remain unknown. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like nobody wants to stick their neck out to make things better because then you have the risk of living an uncomfortable life. And the more that civilizations decline, the more you're going to need people to want to risk an uncomfortable life in order to fix things. Because otherwise, it's all just going to deteriorate indefinitely. I mean, it can get so much worse. Well, Yeah, then you would really have to wonder why people like an Anthony Blinken, you know, would want to be in the limelight or a, what's the attorney general's name,

Merrick Garland. I mean, the top cop in the country is Jewish. He openly persecutes Catholics. Shocker, right? I'm sure anyone who knows the history there is completely shock. Anthony Blinken went to Israel after October 7th. Didn't sit in with them. He sat with them.

You would think you'd maybe want to start going a little bit into the background as things get worse unless this is all hubris and they think that they can make things better. You know, Victoria Newland's probably the smartest of all of them because she just stays, you know, she does a good job of staying in the background. Now she used to be in the forefront a little bit, but now she's in the background. But Blinken and Garlet, I mean, what, 70 to 80% of Biden's cabinet? It doesn't make any sense. Well, there's a few elements here. The first is that these are a lot of the people that were on the B team during the initial Obama presidency, because I do think that Biden's presidency is basically Obama 3.0.

So a lot of the more competent people at this point are operating outside government. there's just more money and more power to be had in corporations and finance and politics and foreign affairs than in the Biden administration. This is not where like the top crop of elites go. The other element is that, you know, the kind of, the influence thing used to be a lot more subtle, but it was still there. Trump's ambassador to Israel, the American ambassador to Israel for Trump, his death, his death, daughter was in the IDF, was in a foreign military for the country he was ambassador to. This is not like commonly known, but it's still like, it's still crazy. Like I don't, I understand this because I am Jewish, right?

I understand how the, how the kosher sausage is made, so to speak. but I don't understand who the Jewish power establishment thinks it's fooling by doing this. And I also don't understand like the Grand Vision. You know, you also have a country that Jews have total sovereignty over with Israel. Right. So it's not like in the past where you have a bunch of different countries and Jews go from one place to another. Like there is a place for Jews to go and they choose not to. because it's more comfortable in the West.

But Jews, if they wanted to, they could go and make Aliaa, and that's it. It's absolutely crazy. When I say stuff like this, I realize I'm sounding like, oh, imagine if the roles are reversed or, you know, they're so, they contradict themselves so much. Many people don't care about that. A lot of people just don't care about that. But imagine if the top cop in the country and the, you know, the head of the Defense Department or, you know, as E. Michael Jones says, 4757 members of Biden's White House, imagine if they were Han Chinese. Oh, fuck, it'd be all over. they flip out that Barbara by the barbara boxer didn't she have a a chauffeur that was a

Chinese spy and oh my god the right wing you know the quote unquote right wing reserves oh my god and um didn't in Crenshaw wasn't Crenshaw sleeping with like a Chinese fire yes it was like shhupin like uh oh bad yeah and they freak they freak out but it's like you tell them you know, probably because, I mean, it's just a brainwashing. It's the, it's the Israel is our greatest ally. Ask them why and they say Israel's a democracy. You've been to Israel. Is Israel a democracy?

Oh, fuck. No, well, I won't swear so much. But let me, let me explain something to you. It's all right. Basically. And in 28, so Israel has no constitution. So that's step one. You can't have a democracy without a constitution.

But let's move on from that. basic fact. That's also why they can't be in NATO because if it's actually in NATO, you have to have a constitution. So Israel gets created, whether you can argue this by the UN or by its own executive fiat, conquest, whatever, 1948, 1950 comes around. It's two years into the creation of the state and the government decides, hey, we need a constitution. But they can't get everybody to agree because there's religious Jews, there's communist Jews, there's all kinds. ethnic Arab Jews, Spanish Jews, white Jews. And so they look at this situation and they say we're going to have what's called the Harari compromise of 1950.

And they basically say that we're going to start putting together and passing constitutional amendments if we can vote on it in the Knesset, which is the Israeli parliament. And then after enough time, once we have enough constitutional amendments, we're then going to have the Supreme Court take a vote. and have the Constitution. So this was kind of designed in 1950 to take about 10 years or so, that you have the government pass and agree on some amendments, and then everything works. But we're now 75-ish years past that, and there's no constitution in the state of Israel.

And the interesting part is that there's also nothing governing what can be passed ethically as a constitution. amendment in the country. So in 2018, these are called the basic laws, like capital B, capital L, basic law. The basic law that was passed in 2018 states that Israel is a Jewish state only entirely for the Jews, that Hebrew is the given language of the state, and that Arabic and Palestinian people have a special status. But this is left very legally ambiguous. So the state in 2020, 2018 formally declared itself a Jewish theocracy by and for Jewish citizens. And anybody who's lived in Israel knows this, which is even more insane because they're going to posit propaganda that Israel is like this freedom-loving democracy, which, again, total horseshit.

in other in other kind of elements to this this basic law also defines the national symbols of the country, the state holidays of the country, and the calendar of the state that are all explicitly Jewish. So, you know, I don't want to hear the propaganda, which I've heard for my whole life, that Israel invented the cherry tomato, and that Israel invented the microSD card,

and that because there's a bunch of gay people in Tel Aviv, that we're just supposed to take a step back and accept them as this Western democratic country. It's total bullshit. The country is by and for Jews, and anybody pretending that it's not is either ignorant or manipulating you. So let me ask you this. Why did they keep the Palestinians there? It's been my opinion.

It's probably not an original opinion. I probably read it somewhere. That because of the eternal victimhood thing, because of the they love to be good. We try with these people. We try as hard as we can, but they're always attacking us. They get to have the eternal,

they get to play the eternal victim by having their oppressors on their doorstep, which they do so much to, they're trying so hard. Why do you think the Palestinians are still there? I mean, me and I just, I'll step in a role, for a second, I would have either gotten them out of there a long time ago or I would have

flatten the place a long time ago. For sure. So it's part of it's that for the psychology. Part of it is that tribal allegiances inherently depend on their being an enemy tribe. A lot of, so for example, like the state of Israel politically has used. use the Palestinians as a scapegoat, but it's also something that a war can centralize the government in Israel, better than any other cultural state of affairs or vote. One thing that you might recall is that prior to October 7th, throughout 2023, Bibi Netanyahu was struggling to get a government

coalition together in the Knesset. It was almost impossible for him to do. He'd have all these, He had all these internal mechanisms levied against him. He has all these different opposing parties. Right after the October 7th attacks and the start of the Israel-Gaza war, there was an emergency unity government that was formed. And now whatever Bibi says goes. And the mindset from talking to Israelis that I know, people that I know, is that this is going to be Bibi's last war because it's the last.

chance for him to have unity with the government. But to answer your question centrally, why even bother with the Palestinians? I think you're right that they can use them as a proxy to always have a scapegoat. But it's also that they know it would be the worst look to forcibly expel them from the country or to genocide them. So maybe it is that fiction of the humanitarian care, but it's also that they can't quite take it that far, because then they would kind of have to admit to themselves that they're all the things that they say,

the anti-Semites say that they are. You know, what's interesting is I've heard reports recently that Palestinians who have en masse gone into other countries in the past, especially in the last 75 years, 80 years, basically become very subversive wherever they go, which I was like, I immediately joked. I'm like, well, you know, there is this theory that the Palestinians are they actually they're the real Jews. They converted to Islam over the years,

over the centuries and everything. And that would make sense that they go into another country and be subversive. But yeah, a lightful twist of irony. There is, the interesting thing with them is that, like, the other element is that Arab countries don't want the Palestinians.

Egypt doesn't want them. Jordan doesn't want them. It's like they do cause problems wherever they go. And that's not just like Israeli propaganda. Most Arab countries, really are starting to dislike the Palestinians more than they dislike the Jews, as far as the nationalism goes. I mean, depending if I lived in that area, I don't know what my opinion would be.

You know, I just know what happens in this country. And I know, going all the way back to the start of this episode, you know, I know who, like the young girl with the all-seeing eye, necklace said, I know who's responsible for it. And I realized that I reduced a lot of my options by talking about this and talking about it openly and questioning it openly. The shows that I used to get on that had very large audiences and I don't get on anymore, but it's not really a big deal. I think the truth is a whole lot more important. And I think that if you're willing to step outside and make it a good conversation,

You know, make it an honest conversation. I hope that's what I'm doing. I hope that I know you are. I've heard you on on on on Jay Burton show talking about the history of Zionism. There were stuff in there. I thought I knew a lot. There were stuff in there that you taught me and I just don't I think we've gotten to the point where if you can at all these are questions that you really should be asking that people really should be asking you know and I don't. I don't. But I also am of the opinion that there's going to be no conversation to be had until Jews who are sick of this kind of subversive behavior, this revolutionary spirit, and especially the Zionist point of view, the Zionist take and Israel basically start forming their own groups and start talking about this public. until that happens. It's just going to be anti-Semites like myself who are going to be doing this. But I think the real power, the real power lies in people like you organizing to fight groups like the ADL and fight groups like the World Jewish Congress, even if you get your ass kick. At least, you know, at least people see you're out there and you're saying, you know, stop this. you know, this, this isn't going to end well for us, because it never does.

Yeah, I mean, it's like the most uncomfortable thing for, you know, somebody to do if they're behaving badly is to look in the mirror, right, and to see it all there stark. And one thing is, whenever I bring this up to other Jews, it's just, it's just not even up for discussion ever. like no matter what social circles or where I am or what I'm doing, just trying to have like an honest conversation about this with other Jews. Like this is something that just it can't get anywhere. I've asked other Jews. Like, in as many words, you know, what if not everything against our group is just raw hatred? What if they're, you know, why do you think that?

they feel this way. But there seems to be, from my perspective, a complete inability of Jews to want to understand why somebody is anti-Semitic. And like getting exposed to the moralizing, the shaming of different opinions, the superiority of being right. It's, it's just, I wish, you know, my, my kind of opinion is that I wish Jews would have the understanding that like this is not, this is not, this is not. not like an infinite tactic, right? You can't call everything anti-Semitic. You can't influence and exert so much power and political control and expect it to just continue indefinitely. It's not realistic. I guess I was wondering if you wanted to talk about the tunnels a little bit since we've gone this far. I wanted what you were just talking about. I just wanted to, I pulled up Gino's article again, and he, um, he said here, he said, um, the psychopath is unable to put himself

in the place of others and thus to view himself critically, confident in any circumstance of being right and innocent and superior. He considers the resentment of his victims as irrational and pointless. Although those close to the psychopath, at least those who learn the hard way his true nature can judge him raving mad, the psychopath is not sick because he's not sick because he does not suffer. He is innocent of neurosis and never request psychiatric care except as a strategic calculation. He is not psychotic, cannot be regarded as maladapted to social life. On the contrary, he is in a certain sense over-adjusting. That's why the real mystery from a Darwinian point of view is not the existence of psychopath, but they're low proportions of the population.

if yeah if you're again if you're just innocent if you're constantly innocent if you're told that you can do you're no wrong you can do no wrong you're a special boy it's just not going to how can you know I'm wrong all the time I admit I'm wrong all the time I'm divorced I'm remarried lovely love of the person, but both of us had problems in the first one. I had my problems. It was my fault. I say shit is my fault, my fault all the time. Made mistakes my whole life. I worked side by side with the owner of a Jewish company for 15 years. I never heard him once say, I'm sorry. I never heard him once say I was wrong. I'm wrong. And it just seems that that meets out perfectly when it comes to societal issues and political issues.

Well, you got to one thing that I've been thinking about lately is so with your article that you reviewed the Israelist psychopathic nation, I don't think it's a coincidence that a vast majority of CEOs and very powerful people tend to be abnormally represented as psychopaths. I think this is an Ed Dutton thing, but disproportionately people in power tend to be psychopaths or to have psychopathic traits and they're not like subclinical, right? So this doesn't make them unable to function,

but it just removes that empathy control and that barrier for ethics that most ordinary people have. So maybe it's just a perfect story. of the psychopathic mindset as an in-group, as a religion, as that having been inculcated in the Jewish community. But maybe part of it's also that we live in a world in which empathy is viewed as weakness. And the people that run and control everything just have to be as psychopathic as possible to survive. So let's talk about the tunnels.

Owen Benjamin says that he like has these three classes of Jews, the war Jews, the sodomy Jews, which are like pornography, Hollywood, people who push degeneracy. And then the bagel Jews, which he's is like, we're just trying to get through life, leave us alone. But there is this other subgroup of, you know, extremely religious groups and these, these crazy sects that are, Shah-Hawk writes about them in Jewish history, Jewish religion, and does a pretty good job of explaining exactly what a lot of them believe in detail. But yeah, so this is a, you know, this isn't normally one that would be associated with those three groups. So what is this tunnel stuff, man?

Well, so I want to, full disclaimer, like I'm not one of these Chabad-Nakim full black hat Orthodox Jews. I probably wouldn't own a computer if that was the case. These Jews, to begin with, are about 5% of the population of Jews overall. So 95% of Jews aren't these like black hat lunatics. Most of them, you're not going to like visually recognize them as Jews. But, you know, every one out of 20 Jews is one of these black hat types. And there's a lot of history, which I won't get into.

A lot of it comes from anti-nomainism, sabat-aise v. kind of Kabbalistic or weird Hasidic sects that at various point in Jewish history select false messias and then worship them and then turn to, crazy occult stuff, which is all fully documented on Wikipedia. I won't go into the history there. But basically, as I understand the way this worked, is

this building that this happened at. It's addresses like 770. And it's in the center of the Haredi community in New York. And I think it's what, what is it? Like Crown Heights, New Jersey or something?

The New York Jersey border. I'm not entirely. Crown Heights is in Brooklyn. That's right, Brooklyn, yeah. Yeah. So basically, like, there's this incredibly religiously fundamental, like, it's fundamentalist, it's zealous, it's incredibly zealous, it's incredibly focus on absolute strict adherence to the Torah.

And there's a bunch of rabbis in this tradition that mandate all these laws of conduct. and they all have their headquarters out of this building because the organization Chabad was started by Rav Shnielsen, who was basically proclaimed in the 20th century as the Messiah. So this, I mean, if you can like to summarize, this man, this famous rabbi is declared as Messiah. He starts this organization, Chabad, which is designed to basically bring all,

all Jews in the world onto their crazy religious programming. And it all happens at this building. Now, the Messiah is not supposed to die. The Messiah is supposed to live forever and, you know, get resurrected after they die. But this rabbi dies. So there's this tract within theology that says the Jews have to bring about the Messiah. manually, they have to do it. So these Khabad Nikim have all these different sects of looking at aspects of the Talmud and the Torah

and saying, well, we can do this to bring back Shnearson, and we can do that to bring back Shnearson. But they only have a certain amount of time to do it because the Torah says that 40 years or one generation can pass without the Messiah being revealed. at a certain point. If somebody claims they're the Messiah and they're not back in 40 years, they're not the Messiah. And all of their theologies about this man coming back as Messiah. So, to make a long story short, a bunch of radical young Israeli Jews who believed in this hyper-specific tract of Judaism, they look at this and they say, we're going to do every single thing that this rabbi said to make him come back as Messiah.

and one of those things was expanding the building. And they start digging tunnels like a motherfucker. Now, that's like the Jewish internal explanation. The much more astute people will realize that there's a lot of child sexual abuse in the Orthodox community. There's a lot of corruption. There's a lot of human trafficking and issues. and massive problems with this organization, such as money laundering, illegal tax stuff, criminal activities. All of this is like aspects of it are fairly well known in some regards.

Like there was a Vice News article about 10 years ago on the child sex stuff within orthodoxy. So basically there's like there's two competing theories. The first is that this is some wacko religious conflict that a small amount of Jews are trying to bring back Messiah by physically enlarging the space under the building. And the second theory is that it's just a tunneling effort for all of this crime and really evil shit to happen. Now, I don't know which one is true,

but I do know that like the religious zealot stuff is incredibly real and also that the child sex stuff within the Orthodox Jewish community is also like insanely real. Something like 50% of young Jewish boys in the Hasidic community have been sexually assaulted at some point. There's these huge scandals. It's like way more per capita than the Catholic Church even. So basically like I don't know which one is more true. But I wouldn't doubt if there's elements of both. And the other thing that I'll say about the tunnel stuff is like, it is the worst possible PR shit because it confirms every single stereotype

that people have about Jews. If I was a non-Jew watching this and I wasn't already anti-Semitic, I would become anti-Semitic watching it. It's a Jew in a black hat crawling out of a hole. Or like a Jew in their own temple. and the Khabad Lubavichir headquarters like overturning pews and fighting police and shit

and like being dragged out of the walls. So it's like this crazy. So that's my kind of perspective. It's like it's really, really bad PR. It could be religious fundamentalism, but it also could be like covering up a whole bunch of illegal shit, which I already know that they do for the most part

and is true. So that's my perspective. Well, I mean, I read that advice article and I shared it the day after the tunnel thing happened. The thing is it's so well known that is it even hidden. I mean, why would they build, why would they even build tunnels to do that? I mean, it seems to me they would just do it. I mean, not out in the open, but they just do it and no one's really going to say anything.

Yeah, I'm inclined to believe that like, yeah, the criminal stuff is true. I really do think it's more likely that it's just like these people, People are lunatics. Yeah. Like really, really fully insane. This building is like dilapidated and decayed. They have also like insane co-sanguination rates, which like really fucks with them genetically.

Um, because they've been like cousin marrying for like multiple generations. So they really could, I mean, they could just be tunneling under there because they're completely nuts. Like I think that's more likely. you know that that yeah that that's sort of my take on it watching um miss libs of ticot run run interference by saying oh it was just a bunch of teens i'm like all right first of all teens were able to pull that off second of all jewish teens were able to pull that off what

do they know about manual labor the hell are you talking about also like The tone deafness of like Israeli and Jewish PR is so insane. Like, oh, it was just a bunch of teens. Like, are you kidding me? How much, how much has the, it's just teens line been thrown around casually for years? And I think it's, it's just so stupid. Like, how is there such an inability to get a grasp on how bad PR operates? Like for the ethnic group that's been running propaganda in this country for well,

over 100 years. To just have no ability to, like, manage the perception here, it's terrible. Like, what they should have done, and this is my, like, you know, backseat coach, whatever thing is that they just should have said, like, these Jews are crazy, you know, disavowing Heabad, but there's never going to be a Jewish criticism or critique of another Jewish group. And this is going to be a huge problem because they're the ones with the highest birth rate. So like the secular Jew is going the way of the dodo. It's going to be in 50 years, all of these like completely insane black hat fundamentalist types that are having eight

kids in a family. Whereas like the Jewish progressive couple is getting like two dogs and adopting like a black baby or something, you know. Maybe have you back on some time and talk about Talk a little more about go back in the history of Zionism and talk about that because you have a really good grasp on that. And that really is an interest of mine, something that, something I like to talk about, read about. So let's end this. And what do you have to plug? Yeah, I have a YouTube channel, Philo Smicelani. Basically, what I do on there is I make just short little video essays on rare books, usually right wing books.

and I've been on a few times with some other good guys in the space. And yeah, that's it. I only have the YouTube channel to kind of protect myself. No other social media under this name. All right. Well, I appreciate it. And yeah, thank you. Thanks for the conversation.

Thanks for putting up with me. Anytime. Thank you for having me on, Pete. It's an honor. Take care. Bye. Bye.