The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1028: 'Thought Crime Syndicate' Monthly Roundtable w/ Dark Enlightenment, Jose Niño and Charles Spadille

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

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I almost feel like I can't do a proper introduction when I have these guys on. So once again, I have Dark Enlightenment, Charles Padil, Jose Nino. We are going by the name for this month, at least, the Thought Crime Syndicate. And DE came up with that. Yeah, D.E came up with that. I thought it was great, but who wants to start talking about Haiti? I think he should kick it off. Go, D. I just point out that before we talked to the call, Catherine Jean-Pierre, the White House Press Secretary, who I think can read, but I'm not sure,

is the elite of this island, and I will kick it off with that. Like, she's the high-class one there. Yeah. Well, I mean, our elite isn't really much better. Air quotes around the elite, of course, heavily qualified. So, I mean, yeah, that's, that seems to be an epidemic of all things. We got rid of the COVID air quote epidemic. And now we have an epidemic of elites, air quotes.

So that's sort of where we are, I suppose. And what, I guess fraternity, galate, all that stuff. I guess that's where this leads. This is where that leads. I wanted to start off. We can start getting into what's going on there. But I've seen a lot of people making excuses, especially libertarian types. Oh, look how the United States is.

This is what they've done, how they've interfered in it in Haiti over the past 10 years and 20 years and everything. If you really want to get a picture of Haiti, there's a book out. It's one of those forbidden books. It's by Hesketh Pritchard. It's called When Blacks, When Black Rules White. And it's the whole story of the 19th century of Haiti. Haiti won their independence in 1803, I believe it was. And it talks about after winning their independence the next century and how Hesketh

Prattretcher went there in, I think it was 1899. and what he witnessed, and how if there had been such a thing as a slasher horror movie at the time, what he walked into was absolute chaos where you have these very black and mulatto, you have a very black and a mulatto population who the mulattoes hate the black, the black, the black, the mulattoes hate the blacks, the blacks hate the mulatto. the blacks took over rule and proceeded to any white people that were on the island, they completely slaughtered, just killed them all, and then proceeded to genocide the mulattoes. And high-state statistical affair.

I mean, a lot of people don't realize that what, and I'm not trying to change the subject, I'm addressing the point you're raising specifically. A lot of people forget that in the U.S. Constitution, where when they put race, color and creed. That's exactly why they put color in there. Because if you talk to anybody in the black community or for African American community, then you're going to see that there is a lot of colorist in that lighter skin versus darker skin. Anybody that's intellectually honest, which, you know, that's basically us and, you know, maybe 10,000 other people in this country. But anybody that's intellectually honest will tell you anytime around the black community, that's still

in today. That's exactly why color is there. So I'm not surprised to hear that it was, it was a factor in the Haitian uprising or revolts or independence, whatever term we choose to use. So that's, that's an important note that people need to understand that colorism, colorist thinking is always present. It's omnipresent. It doesn't, it's not exclusive to any one community. And the other point I want to raise specifically is I can't recall the exact quote. your listeners can look it up and maybe somebody can pull it up on the side if they have a better internet connection than I do. But there's an actual quote by one of the revolutionary leaders in Haiti that was something like

the we should write our constitution on a white man's skin, use his skull as an ink well and a bayonet for a pen and his blood for the ink. So you look that up. So again, I'm not surprised to find that that book discusses some serious horrors that were witnessed firsthand. Well, and you can't really understand the American Civil War without understanding that every single white planter, like, had nightmares of Haiti. Yeah, I didn't even think of that. That's excellent point. The Revolution was sent me, and there was a book. Matt Turner.

Yeah, and Nat Turner. And, like, so why were they so, like, insistence upon white supremacy? because they saw what happened otherwise. There's a book. There's French and Spanish refugees from Haiti and elsewhere, where were these uprisings who made it the way to New Orleans and Charleston with just horror stories. And, I mean, not to get too woo-woo, but like Haiti was literally frowned by like a satanic

demonic ritual where like the people of Haiti were like made a deal with a demon like if we kill all the white people for you you'll give us power and they're like yeah sure that sounds but and you can't live with people whose idea of politics starts with like making deals with devils and killing you and isn't that ironic that we're having the exact same problem now in america so i mean but again not to change the subject but i think it's interesting that there's a direct a direct correlation there with our mollock worshipping, again, elite, air quotes. To bring them back the point to libertarianism or whatever, there was one personal experience.

I had that really solidified my views on more like racialist politics. When I was living in Chile, I was working at this like free market think tank as like a translator. And there's this guy that was working next to a white Venezuelan. who lived in Chile for like 20 odd years or so. And he went on a trip to the Caribbean, specifically to Haiti and Cuba. And his experience there was quite telling

because during my libertarian phase, I would be led to believe that, like, Haiti would be like the more prosperous, orderly society based on the fact that it doesn't have, like, a communist regime or whatever. But based on this guy's experience, said like he felt a lot safer and he noticed that it at cuba communism notwithstanding was actually like more orderly had better infrastructure than Haiti and that really made me start to change a lot of my precepts and priors with respect to how i viewed politics there and that was like um and the funny

thing is too um cuba has actually gotten wider over the last like 150 years because it used to be almost like 80% black um in the middle of the 19th century Yeah. I did not know. You know what is really telling the, we all know that Israel has a very secure border around their country. Do you know what the securest border on the planet is? And I looked this up this week and it's pretty much unanimous. Is it between Haiti and the Dominican Republic?

Yep. I was going to say. Yeah. The Dominican Republic's border with Haiti. immediately people started Haitians started fleeing to the you know the other side of Spaniola and the Dominicans were like turn around or we'll shoot you they don't want them anywhere near and now they don't fuck around and for anybody who knows that the DR is not one of the safest places I mean there's some great resorts there but there are some

places you definitely don't want to go And they're like, you can't come anywhere near here. Well, I've heard the DR is described as mulatto white supremacists. That's actually pretty accurate. Yeah. And, I mean, this is a country whose main export is baseball players. We're not talking about a wealthy place. I was going to say, I think a very small sideline is also cigars, but I think that's about it.

So we're not talking about wealthy people, but Droglio, the dictator from the early 20th century is like, no, we have to, because we are what we are, we have to have a very system set up for the realities of what we're dealing with. Like we don't have a lot of civilizational capital. We need to be very top down and manage our resources very correctly. and we cannot, cannot let. You catch them in the corner of your eye. Distinctive, by design. They move you, even before you drive. The new Cooper plugin hybrid range.

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Yeah, drinking from a fire hose at that point. Right. And Pete, something, you've been talking about Eric Prince a lot lately. And he said something, I think it was either his interview with Patrick Pitt, David, or BAP. But basically all of these people are seeking governance by white people, right? That's, that's, yeah, they want to live in societies run by white people, but they want a voice at the same time. Like, these are mutually contradictory. You just want, you want the peace, prosperity, good order, relatively fair courts and whatever of, of white civilization.

But you want to come here and then you want like a democratic saying the way things work and that's mutually country. Just look at the, you know, now falling apart case in Georgia with Fannie Willis and other stuff. Well, let's let's be honest. Let's be honest. Sorry to cut you off, but just to kind of riff off of the point you're making. Let's be honest, really what it is. It's just a slightly modernized form of cargo cultism. It's just they want white people magic without white.

people. I mean, really, at the end of the day, that's what they want. You're exactly right. And so, um, you know, Eric Prince is like, we need to recolonize these people. And, you know, I think you're talking specifically about Africa. But, you know, the U.S. Marines, like, basically invaded Haiti and, like, took it over and ran it for twice in the 20th century. And it still, right? Like, the best roads in Haiti are the ones that they built in the 30s, probably the only roads at this point. If Africa is any indication, probably the only roads remaining.

Isn't that the big point that's raised by the Chinese construction worker? Empire of Dust. I actually did an episode of... The only thing's standing is what somebody else built and even that's falling apart. That's his line. That's not my opinion. That's his as a boots on the ground guy in Africa.

So go ahead. I didn't mean to cut you off. I actually did a pause button episode on that. If you look forward the pause button and Empire Dust, I actually did an episode on that many years ago. But like, you can't, right, AA, you know, America's one genuine spiritual innovation to the world. You can't solve a problem unless you deal, like, unless you admit that there's a problem. Right. And, you know, our regime is actual purpose is never admitting, like, actively.

suppressing the truth that people aren't equal, right? Ideologically, the Nuremberg's point is we can't admit that there are real differences and that people are different. Otherwise, you know, all the war crimes we pulled like firebombing dressed in and torturing people is no longer morally legitimate. And so, like, it's literally an existential crisis for these guys that if you, even question whether or not like cannibal, um, demon worshippers should be allowed to like be flown, you know, into your neighborhood and the government.

I mean, that's, that's for Joe Biden and for the democratic regime that we live under, if they admit that Haitians are awful and no one should want to live around them, not even other Haitians, it's just it's that first domino right you know you guys have all seen the memes like Zoe Quinn cheats on dude and then like complete total you know the domino meme yes yep I'm a familiar with you talk about yeah you know like that's that's literally what they're worried about right now yeah is the second you admit that like hey maybe people who worship demons and are cannibals and are violent and retarded

shouldn't be like allowed to go to my children's high school you know like um you know, this 23-year-old dude is like, I'm 17, you know, shouldn't be allowed around my, you know, 13-year-old daughter at middle school. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned Eric, you mentioned Eric Prince, and I've been listening to him a lot lately. He's come back on the scene and been doing, he started his own podcast off-leash. I think everybody should listen to it. The last episode he did, he did an episode on Haiti, and he shared some personal experiences that he's had there.

A lot of people will be like, well, you know, he's just this mercenary guy. Eric Prince never had to work a day in his life. His dad invented like that, I think the, the visor in the car, the light that goes behind it, you know, the light behind it. I think his dad invented that. He's basically admitted he'll never have to work. He never had to work another day in his life. He joined the SEALs.

He joined the military. He saw inefficiency everywhere. And he decided to start his own private company. You know, and a lot of people have, you know, oh, well, they killed, you know, there was that incident where they killed civilians. It's like the military, the volunteer military does that, you know, on a weekly basis, on a monthly basis. Yeah. Okay. So they're actually much better at what they do because they know that they can get fired.

And then he sold the business, and now he's back out there. And I encourage people to go listen to him. What he says, we want to colonize Africa, it's not because he's a neo-con. And it's not because he wants the military industrial complex to, you know, to make money. I mean, he doesn't like the military industrial complex. He would rather every, he would, he would rather those contracts go to, you know, he's talked about how, you know, the F-35 project and how inefficient it is, how, how much money's been sunk into it. He's somebody who's talking about foreign policy, who's actually making sense when he talks about the danger of

when he talks about why Africa should be colonized. I mean, this is stuff that Yaki was talking about. I mean, there's a problem. If China, you know, it's one of the things, if China takes over Africa like they're doing, they could just unleash more Africans upon Europe and just completely overrun it even worse than it is now. They could unleash it upon here. There's reasons for all these things. But to get back to Haiti, you know, one of the things, you know, so he's talked about his latest episode,

I think it's called The Purge or something, and it's like, and it's all about Haiti. But one of the things people have to understand about Haiti is the average IQ in Haiti is 67. Okay. People can make all the excuses about IQ doesn't mean anything. I mean, you're just, you're out of your mind. Somebody who has a 67 IQ, I don't even know if they can be prosecuted for a crime in this country. I don't know if it even IQ measurements break down at the edges. Yeah.

You know, like really, you know, what's the difference? Like, can you really measure the difference with IQ of 190 to 195? I mean, really, it's very difficult, right? You know, 67 is so low. It's like, how do you even tell the difference between like, is this person sentience or not? Like, seriously, this is not a. a dig or any kind of insult or anything. But like, is this person capable of sentient thought?

I mean, it's a serious question. Yeah, you know, below 60. And if the average is 67, you know, a significant chunk of the population is going to have an IQ below 60. I mean, are they even sentient? Right. I'm not an psychologist. I'm not an expert to talk about this.

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See it, buy it, get it tomorrow. Or, you know, fight branda. Is this person? Yeah. And immediately people are like, oh, we need to bring them here. And it's like, I lived, look, I lived in South Florida for a very long time. I lived in South Florida for almost 20 years. That's where the biggest Haitian community is.

and I'm going to say it. I knew a lot of Haitians that were really nice people. But for the most part, they're very unintelligent, and this is what Haitians were telling me. It was observable, but this is what Haitians would tell me, the Haitians that I knew who had higher IQ, who had owned their own businesses, who I did business with. They said, most of these people should not even be here.

They said they do not, they couldn't pass. he says, I don't know how they have driver's licenses because they couldn't pass a driving test even if it was in their own, even if it was in their own language. So he's just assuming that people are just given driver's licenses down there.

And that's what, I mean, how many you already have tons of them, Lake Worth, Florida, Lauderdale, Florida, Pompano Beach, all these places and everything. And there is a good deal of crime

in their neighborhoods. I mean, and they're immediately, you knew when this jumped off, the first thing I thought was, okay, well, it's about time that this happened because this has been boiling over for a decade. But second, I'm like,

they're going to want them to bring them here. And, you know, what do you, where are they going to put them? Well, where? We know exactly where they're going to put them. We know exactly where they're going to. Yeah. Come on.

We know exactly where they're going to put them to break up voting blocks. Yeah, they're going to put them the breakup voting blocks. That's where they're going to put them. I mean, I understand with the question you're really asking is, you know, why they have no place here. Where do they belong? But we know where they're going to put them. And, I mean, to go back to Dee's point about the 67 IQ. And again, I'll follow along with you, Dee, in the sense that this isn't even about malice.

I'm not even criticizing. I'm just pointing out. Like, picture the slowest kid in your class. in high school and how much they would drag down the process and realize he's probably two standard deviations smarter than 67. Like, just think about that. And then extrapolate that to a civilizational level. We'll go back to your point, Pete, about the driver's license.

Like, okay, now extrapolate that to plumbing, electricity, all of that. Like, just think what's going to happen when even 10 to 15% of your population is 67 IQ? It's all going to grind to a halt. I can't understand why we're surprised that planes are literally falling out of the air at this point. It's like that's not at all. As a matter of fact, I remember when I was on my way to Japan with my father for a trip in 2019, when we had to go through the security theater in the United States of TSA. Excuse me, with the security theater in TSA.

And I remember just thinking, I think I said this loudly in public. I was like, why are we doing this? What's the point? We just import people and then let them work on the planes. And then sure enough, if you look up in the news, like a few days after I left in September of 2019, some guy in Florida, where I flew out of, some Muslim that we led in, started to sabotage planes and they caught him. And I was just like, see, this is exactly what I'm talking about. out. And that's somebody that was intentionally sabotaging. Now, just imagine all the people that, due to DEI requirements, we have to hire. And it's like, no wonder planes are falling out of the sky. Wait till buses start losing wheels in the middle of the street and swerving into your grandmother, waiting at the bus stop. Like, it's just what's going to happen?

Boeing, there was an expose recently. The guy who died, right, who shot himself twice in the head, the whistleblower, that's a little. scary, but I definitely, yeah. Right. Hillary Clinton was nowhere, it has an alibi, right? Anyway, there was some hidden camera type footage of the Boeing plant.

And lest I'd be accused of racism, there were a lot of really trashy white people who were like, oh no, people are on drugs. Once you lower the tone of the society, let's you make it more present oriented, less capable. There's a lot of people who could have been productive, say, 50 years or 60 years ago or 70 years ago in the 1950s who were just, you know, kind of working class trash who would spend all their paychecks on booze, but could be reliably, you know, counted on to show up to work five days a week. And they built the American West, dude. Yeah.

Like look up the history of boom. towns that that's literally who you're talking about but go ahead yeah prove your point that was to I know some of these people yeah yeah um anyway right now right they're they're high on weed they they do other drugs because our society has been lowered you know we've normalized marijuana to the point where it's not even really a crime anymore in most states I mean huge chunks of you know many states have legalized it And, you know, are you surprised that this society is no longer capable of building complex machinery? You know, like WD40 as the as the lubricant or don't know, of Don dish soap as the as the as this as the lubricant in the seals on the doors.

Are you, are high? Oh, wait, yeah, they are high. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, like, oh, hey, it's done soap. it'll take care of, you know, oil slicks off a duck's back, wash your chicken, it'll loop up your airplanes.

Just the, it'll do it. Make sure to get the spicy brand. Yeah. And yeah, in terms of this regression, I would also. Cheeto flavor dawn soap. I would also add that

when it comes to like, Haitian mass migraine, and other like permutations of like third rule migration. You're, it's just like an invitation for the resurgence of medieval disease epidemics. Like, um, you don't realize this,

but, um, that, um, in Chile, they had a pretty nasty wave of Haitian, uh, mass migration from like 2013 until like 20,

20, and for the first time, and like, over a century, they had like the first cases of like leprosy breakout because of that. And, um, like,

people don't get this that. It was obsessed about like novel viruses like the sweet and sour sickness and all that. But like, I'm more afraid of the type of like medieval diseases that are supposedly eradicated in the West coming back because of the fact that we're just, um, importing like the trash heap.

of all the global south. And that's something that is not talking. You're 100% right, Jose. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. You're 100%. I'm just emphatic in my support of what you're saying. That's why I was so eager to jump on.

Because I worked for immigration for almost a decade. And that's one of the things that I've been trying to scream about and getting people to understand. I think it's just so absolutely indicative that we live in a serious clown world to borrow a my posting, career term. We live in an absolute clown world that we just got done undergoing. Again, my fingers are going to break by making so many air quotes, pandemic of COVID where we all were masked and boosted and all this nonsense. And now we're just letting the entire third world come in,

bringing whatever infections they have. And to continue with your point, Jose, you are 100% right. We saw leprosy come back. We're going to start seeing the bubonic plague come back. You're going to matter of fact we'd almost completely gotten people don't realize this we'd almost completely gotten rid of bed bugs in the continental united states almost completely got rid of them and now they're back now they're back bigger than yeah because again people are bringing them in people don't understand that civilization is only 20% innovation it's 80% maintenance and if people don't maintain the the things that they have the levels of cleanliness that they have then it all goes back to to use your term

to a medieval disease level. And that's, I couldn't possibly support you more, Jose. Everything you said is 100% right. And that's why it drives me crazy that these people are like, oh, COVID, long COVID. It's like, bro, you're going to get the plague in a couple months.

You're going to get hyphus. Like, yeah, like Ninja, what are you talking about? Like the sniffles are the least of your worries. Have you seen? Have you seen? Have you seen what happens when people don't have clean water?

Do you know what mass dysentery does to people? Yes. Like, people don't understand. Like, I almost, I literally almost died. I was unconscious for 36 hours. And then six months later, my appendix ruptured. I almost died on the table. And that's just because I had a bad flu.

Now, to be honest, I was in terrible shape. I was an alcoholic. I had made a lot of bad choices up to that because my life fell apart. But the show isn't about me. I'm just saying that, like, you don't need the bubonic plate to, kill you. You can die of dysentery, as Dee just said. You can die of diarrhea. You can die of all these other things. If your level of cleanliness and your personal health isn't that great, you'd be surprised just how much out there is waiting to get rid of you. You catch them in the

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Now it's in the rivers in Haiti. Um, and, and Porta Prince has millions of people and no sewers. And you're bringing people who live in a gigantic slum with millions of people and no sewers to America and expecting things to work out. Like you're going to get, you're going to have outbreaks of dysentery in South Florida. Dissentery basically, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Pete, but basically Florida is just basically a big swamp from about, I don't know, Jackson, ville down, like the entire panhandle of Florida is just a gigantic swamp, right? Can you imagine how bad things will get if you get dysentery in that, like, just,

oh, God. Good. gracious. Endemic to the swamps in Florida? It's a disaster. No, it's, I mean, it's, it's horrifying down there because it's just so hot and it's so wet. It's like if a, if a flu does, if something breaks out,

down there. It's just it sticks around forever because there's no place for it to hide. I mean, you have to wait for, you know, hopefully a 60 degree day or something like that. But the one thing I did want to say is that when Eric Prince talks about colonizing Africa, I mean, he's really talking about. What he's talking about is looking at them as children and even having an attitude of like nobles obligé, where it may be our duty to try and, you know, do something for these people. But the problem is, is we've tried that before. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. And I, when you look at Haiti, it's like, okay, you're, you would literally, if the, if the average IQ is 67, you would have to bring people in there. They would have to create industry.

They would have to run the industry. And basically these people, all they would be is a, is a class of people who walk up with a bowl and saying, thank you, please, may I have some more? So I did a quick Excel calculation, Pete, Norm just for those of you interested. You can kind of just check how much of a population is below a certain IQ. You've entered the mean and all that. 32% of the people in Haiti with an average IQ of 67 and assumed standard deviation of 15, which is, you know, the normal, right?

32% of the people there have an IQ below 60. Jesus right. So, I mean, it might be more. It might be less. But you're talking about a substantial chunk of the population somewhere between 20%, 30%, 40%, maybe as much as half. That is literally too dumb to do anything. The United States military found that if you have an IQ below 83, they can't. can't train you for anything useful.

Yep. I remember that. Yeah. And, and this is, this is why what we're doing talking about is so important, because Jordan Peterson will bring that up. Well, you know that the U.S. military has found that no one with an IQ below 83 is capable of doing anything useful in the military. Untrainable.

This is a really severe problem because that's a substantial part of the population. Okay, Jordan, but who is it? And then what do we do with the one talking about it? If you hit a more constitution, it'll boost their IQ, though. If you hit on the Constitution. Rub some magic dirt on it, coach. Is that what you're saying? Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Right. And, Dee, just to step back to something very, very briefly, you were talking earlier about how this is an existential crisis for the globalists, the sense of once they admit that there are differences, everything starts to fall apart, right? You recall mentioning that earlier in the program. Well, I mean, this.

is just more proof in the putting of that in that what are you going to do with these people eventually you have to realize that your way of life can no longer exist if these people are here and i'm not even referring to anyone specific when i say these people i just mean a basic incompatibility of civilizations and that's why the big tent i think we're seeing the big tent beginning to collapse because more and more people are saying, you know, ex population is just completely incompatible with mine. And there is no way around it. It has to be confronted and one will defeat the other.

You can't just keep propping up the weaker parts of it. And to kind of use that to segue back to point Pete was making about Eric Prince and saying that we need to the noblesse oblige and this paternalistic attitude. Well, paternalism is great. but keep it to your own family. Otherwise, at best, it's a waste of resources. At worst, you're just opening the door to future problems. If you want to go to a foster home and pick up kids and, you know, try and help them out and raise them,

that's great. That's sweet of you. But understand that that's going to be bringing a lot of problems into your home because they aren't of your blood. They aren't of your foundation. and they may be incompatible with you. And that's not to say that charity is a bad thing necessarily, but what I'm trying to say is a paternalistic attitude in the 19th century

is exactly what got us where we are today. I mean, think of how many people build hospitals and roads and everything in the 19th century, and they're all gone. They're just all completely, what was the point of that? Let's look back at race war in high school, the episode that I appeared all, talking about what happened to my family and the families of kids. countless others that spent their lives teaching in these institutions. Like, where did that go? Okay. So now my father doesn't have a relationship with his own children. You know, we were all

sacrificed on the altar of diversity. Where is this paternalism getting anybody? Is it really helping the people that you're over whom you're being paternalistic? Probably not. Or if it is, it's for a very limited time. And it's hurting the people that you should be paternalistic to, your own children, either metaphorically in the sense of your nation. or yourself, literally, as in your own children. I'll exercise my autistic anarcho-capitalist pass for today. I think that there is some validity to Eric Prince's venture at a privatized scale in Africa in concurrence with like a proper like immigration patriot order where we just have

huge fences against Haiti and other denizens of the third world, where I think that there is probably a role for highly competent private, like, military institutions and advisory institutions to at least somewhat stabilize these countries. And all while we have, like, strong borders. But I do agree that I think like these mass scale colonial, like, paternalistic ventures like conducted by estates and whatnot. We've already tried that. The West has tried that with, then it's just not worked.

It's not very sustainable. But I do think that there might be like a role for some of these privatized ventures. But I think that ultimately we have to focus on our civilizations first before we start talking about like, I don't know, preserving like wildlife in Africa and all this other shit. Because, yeah. But I do think this is a telling moment, though, with the whole. Haitian crisis because these people, these parasites that Lord over us, use every possible

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I mean, that's why. I'll get well fed. Yeah. I mean, but you know, but they're going to get, they're going to get, they'll have Coast Guard cutters bringing them here. Okay. I mean, that's the way it worked. That's the way it worked in 1970, 1980, okay? So something, something needs to be done.

I mean, they've, it can't be the Clinton Foundation because we know that was just a, basically a pedophile outfit. It turned into pedophile tourism for all of their friends. But yeah, that was, but the, something's going to have to be done. And I mean, I just don't know what it is because how do you, you can bring there. We know that there were lower IQ civilizations that have, you know, South Korea. South Korea, 100 years ago, the average IQ. was insanely low and now it's it's gone up okay it can happen it's not they're not stuck there okay yeah but the pre has also gotten so smart they're going to like be gone well that's the

problem that's they got too smart for their own that's the problem using neoliberalism that's the problem using neoliberalism is the answer um and boco haram the terrorist group in north Africa. It literally means female education is forbidden in their local, I think, Wolof language. And actually, they're not wrong because female education is the number one predictor of lack of fertility. Eric Prince has 12 children, and he's been married three times. His first wife died of cancer in her late 30s, which is pretty tragic. But then, yeah, very tragic. So if everyone did what he did, right, had had tons of money in like a bunch of kids, we could, you know, like we could provide good governance to all these people. But all 12 of Eric Prince's children are going to be necessary in the United States just to keep the lights on here.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's not possible for, you know. But the most important thing. The most important thing was born in. South Africa. And is English as anyone because England had planted itself in Kenya, in South Africa, in, you know, all these other Australia.

And because everyone had six, seven, eight, nine, ten children. Right. The most important thing is you want to make sure that they're not coming here. And one of the ways that if you had a regime that had a, you know, that wasn't running on this obsolete software and hadn't just adopted hatred towards everything that the country was founded upon, you could figure out a way to keep them there and make it so that at least they don't want to come here, at least that we, or, or, and be able to suppress anybody who would be, who would want to bring them here for nefarious purposes. But, you know,

we're not there. And, you know, I guess that I'll try to use that as a segue into something that I wanted to talk to DE about because I released an episode this, this week with, goes by Catgirl Coolock. Gentleman, he lives in Canada, uses the whole Catgirl thing as a way to try to throw off the doxers. Probably doing pretty good so far, so I'll give it to him. But the episode was basically talking about the entitlement problem here. And one of the problems, and I'll link this to what we're just talking about, one of the ways they say, oh, well, the way we're going to solve this entitlement issue is because white people aren't having enough kids, we need to import more people in here, and that'll solve the problem. One billion Americans. Yeah. It's interesting because

this goes back to our race war in high school episode. I think it was, chapter 7 people you and I were talking about it the ridiculous um pensions that the teachers had to be given in order to go teaching these jungle schools that's now the fruit of that 50 years later is what's you know causing the entitlements crisis the Nuremberg regime is built on not acknowledging certain realities about well biology really it's fun it's funny you bring that up the because I was just talking to my dad yesterday and he was saying how he's so glad that he made the choices he did because his pension's been so good now because he'll be 86 this year and he sees all these other people in his age bracket that are still those that are still alive obviously

that are struggling and I'm just like well dad good for you what about the rest of us uh you know because they bribed you and you took it and you know we're we're all struggling now your own kids, your own nieces, your own nephews. And he's like, oh, oh, wait, yeah. He's like, yeah, I didn't even realize that. I was like, uh-huh, uh-huh. So yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.

That's to give you like at least anecdotal proof of what you're saying. I'm familiar. It's, and California is completely broke. It's one of the reasons I left there. Illinois, New Jersey, New York. Like, they're all completely underwater. um and p you want me getting to why all these cities are going to go broke real quick or is that something yeah go ahead no okay so um i'm going to condense this as much as possible and try and limit mytism

but let's just say uh that there's a town outside of atlanta that uh they're going to build the new suburb and they're going to call it peach tree acres and there's a thousand houses in there and they each pay $1,000 a month or $1,000 a year in property, Texas, just as for ease of math. So that's a million bucks. Okay. And the city is like, we need new growth and development. We'll put in this suburban house.

But it costs $10 million to put in all the housing, all the streets, all the roads, you know, to a thousand families. right that's you know at one and a half kids per family that's 1500 kids that's two new elementary schools a fire station a police station you know whatever a mini mall you know a Walmart all this stuff grows up around peter acres and is necessary for you know new schools and what have you so this everything else cost 10 million dollars that's 10 years of the taxes that that you know area pay to replace everything in the 20 years it takes to when you need to replace all the pipes and everything else,

assuming a constant cost and no inflation in materials costs and everything else, which we all know is not the case. Right. Well, that means that other 10 years of revenue needs to do things like pay for the new school, the fire station, the police station, the teacher salaries, and everything else. And basically cities have been papering over this difference between how productive the suburb is with how much it costs with bonds and further expanding the growth. And cities and states can't print money. So modern monetary theory might or might not be true, but it certainly doesn't apply to, say, the state of Florida. or the state of Georgia.

And when, you know, a thousand Haitians move in to mangrove acres in West Florida, and they're paying $1,000 a month in property taxes and all this other stuff, right? Not only are they not paying for themselves, but over time. And not only are they probably going to be a burden because of their low IQs, But the teachers at the school that teach the Haitian kids, their pension, right, just adds to the crisis more because that they're not going to, though that community is not going to pay not only for itself in terms of like pipes and roads and everything else. The things for like the school, the teacher's pensions. They're not going to be able to cover that, even if they were, you know, 100 IQ white people. alone, you know, 67 IQ or 80 IQ Haitians.

So each one of these kind of crises all rolled together into a thing where we're, we're out of money and we're running out of productive people who could cover the, you know, cover the bill. Right. Yeah. It doesn't matter where Haitians live. They're never going to be a net again, right? Maybe one out of 10 of them meets that.

85 IQ threshold for being a productive member of society. And that number is not going to go down as AI and C&C machine. Like that number has been creeping up of like threshold of minimum threshold of IQ in order to be a productive citizen is not going down. It's going to go up until things fall apart. And then it's, you know, then we'll see and it's mad backs. But you know, jobs, janitor jobs are getting cognitively demanding because you're asked to do all this stuff with machines and computers and, you know.

Yeah, not to do not to derail your thought, but just to add on to it. Yeah, just look at auto mechanics as a perfect example. Look how technologically advanced that's become it used to be working on a basic engine. And now you have a great deal of computer work alongside it. So please continue. I was just trying to just trying to just try to. It doesn't matter like the very nature of the state and local governments. is doomed to fail.

And when, you know, the teachers union is in a fight with the fireman's union, which is in a fight with the, you know, prison guards union for the last dime that California or Illinois has, because we're coming to that fairly soon, you know, by 2030. That's not that far away, you know, six years from now. they're not only going to be much less effective at their job, but it's going to be the dominant crisis in our state houses, you know, because every state house in America has one or two people who are, might as well just say, you know, from the NEA, you know, tattooed on their face. They're not there to represent anybody, but they're the teachers unions man in the state house or woman, most likely.

right or the prison guards union you know the the correction officers are a very powerful union in the state of california right and they get what they want so you're going to have all of these groups instead of actually solving problems they're going to be fighting over the scraps we're at the looting stage and things a state government's busy making sure that you know the teachers union gets their piece of the pie and the correction officers union gets their piece of the pie and the firefighters and the police and whoever like all these different groups that are at the trough and the DEI coordinator gets their piece of the pie and whatever is not going to be able to do things like basic governance. There's only 168 hours in a week. If you're interested in, you know, sexual harassment training and diversity training and and making. There's just not enough time. And you're seeing it now, like Charles was saying with all these.

I mean, how many, how many in the last two months, how many major incidents have there been with bowling aircraft? Like 10? I mean, it's bad. You know, and I'm the infrastructure doom dude, and I'm shocked and amazed at how bad it's been. And keep in mind, too, again, not to derail your point, but keep in mind, too, that's just what we're hearing. Yeah, that's just what makes that. That's just what makes that, that's just what manages to make our section of the news. And I flatter myself that all of our listeners are well aware of their own workplaces, what they do for a living, their own industries, etc.

where they know how many things just get swept under the rug because somebody doesn't want to fill out the paperwork, the company doesn't want the attention, et cetera, et cetera. I don't care if you're in security, you're in manufacturing, you're in civil engineering, it doesn't matter. I'm sure every guy seated at this table metaphorically knows that a significant percentage of the problems that they encounter just get swept under the rug and everybody moves on. So again, not to belabor a point, just to tie it back up, that's just what we're hearing about Boeing. So can you only imagine by an order of magnitude, probably multiple orders of magnitudes, how much is really happening? Yeah, it's, and again, you know, it's existential for the regime to not tell the truth about this stuff because the second you did, you'd have to admit a bunch of stuff that they don't want to admit. Right.

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You know, look at me in the face and tell me Kamara Harris is capable about being honest about race and sex. I mean, I would just laugh you out of the room, right? Like, she can't because to admit that, like, she made her bones on her knees and that she's dumb and stoned all the time. And part of the reason she's dumb and stoned all the time is that she's a girl and that she's not white. You know, she can't. I will say, I will say this. You know, after talking to Kulak this week, and DE told me about that episode and told me about the substack that he had written.

And I immediately reached out. Really, the only way for them to kick the can down the road that I can see, and maybe I know D.E. and Jose, you were econ nerds at one point just like me. really the only way that I see that they can do this, and I'm not advocating it, obviously, is through MMT and Central Bank digital currency. That's the only way they can kick the can down the road for any period of time on this, because they're just going to have to print the entitlements.

And we know what's going to... And it'll have to be digital. They can't have people hoarding cash anymore. It's the only way they're going to do it. And, you know, they do, at that point, you do, they do risk having revolutionary action taken probably more on a local level in certain places. But at that point also, maybe people just won't because they're, this is the, they, they know that this is the only thing that can keep them going. And maybe people are just so bad off at that point. they'll look at this upon this as if it is the cure to everything that's possible i mean you know

not to get too tinfoily but um what was covid but a bio weapon aimed at old people to take china's old people problem and and shift that you know five 10 years into the future exactly right i mean that that's what it was was a a boomer remover for china and probably with some help from the united States, you know, we, right. Well, I mean, we shouldn't be surprised that a disease that killed, the older, the infirm, the unhealthy, what came from a country that's basically a foundational principle is from each according to their ability to each according to their need. Well, those people need a lot and have no ability to do anything. So it's like, of course. And also had a period where they stopped people from having kids. They went to like a one child policy.

Right, exactly. They doved, your point in mind, dovetail, exactly. I'm just trying to say, like, of course it would come out of there. It's logical if you're talking about an atheistic state that has a bunch of people that have a lot of need and can't produce anything. Well, of course, they're going to get rid of their, you're going to create, as you said, the boomer removal. But, yeah, Pete, you're right, exactly. Combined the childlessness with this. Yeah, it was just, if anything, it was an inevitability.

Yeah, the, um, yaki, yaki posed that when you start importing populations from other places, historically what you see is that the native population stops having children, that there is just a slowdown. And he doesn't, he, he doesn't know if it's a metaphysical thing or if it's, he, he really can't explain why it happens, but when you look back, you see that that happens. And so what you're seeing now is you look at China. Russia is having the same problem. What country is having a baby boom?

El Salvador. Why is El Salvador having a baby boom? Okay. The third world countries that these people are coming from, they've never stopped having babies. Okay? So who's going to take over? Yep. The people that show up.

No. I mean, that's the long and short of it, right? And if you know for a fact, if you're a middle class, let's just say you're a normie American middle class person, you and your wife both work. Let's, you know, being brutally honest about it, having kids is a pain in the neck. Right. They're expensive. They take all your time. You know, like it's a lot of work having, especially, you know, more than two or three kids.

kids. You know, having, having the 12, Eric Prince has billions of dollars so he can have nannies and cooks and all that other stuff. But if you're a normal person, right, and you and your wife are both forced to work because of the economy, having more than one or two children is very, very difficult. And unless you have, like, moral objections, like, you know, hardcore Catholics or Orthodox D or whatever to, like, avoiding having children, like, it's really easy to do to avoid having children. Um, the benefits of being married, you don't lose any of those. And if you just know you're going to get economically exploited all of your life for retirees in Florida with gold plate of pensions that your state really can't afford, but they're constitutionally obligated to give them out. So your, your state spending is going to go for that. And on the low end, you're, you know, going to be constantly supporting, you know, section eight housing and food stamps and stuff and you get nothing unless you have some sort of

religious motivation to have children a lot of people are just going to be like nah i mean i have friends who were great guys who you know know the score and everything he's probably going to listen to later uh he didn't have kids for that very reason like he was like why should i support the system that's what happened to me i mean and it was just that i didn't meet someone until i was 35 and when i when i was 35 that's when the prices of everything started blowing up and, you know, it inflating all over the place. And I just, you know, I said, well, what am I going to do at this point? Even at 35, I was like, well, I seem to be a little bit old for this, but now it's some at this point. And it was purely,

it was purely economic reasons. And, you know, I look back on it and I wish I could change it, but I can't. But I'm not going to, I'm not going to be one of those people that's like, no, you shouldn't have kids. No, I, you know, I encourage people. to, you know, even though I don't, you know, learn from my mistake. Well, but, you know, if it was just a mistake Pete made, that'd be one thing. But like, you have to look at systematic issues systematically, right? Like, and if normal working class people are just treated like tax cattle who get no benefits from the state whatsoever and are constantly being sucked dry by the high, low versus the middle coalition, you're going to run out of. middle class people really quick.

Right? Because everyone in, no one in our society gets rich. You know, Eric Prince got rich by, by basically using government money, right? So he, Eric Prince has billions of dollars because of tax dollars.

Neal and Musk has billions of dollars because it's tax dollars. Yep. Bill Gates has billions of dollars because of tax dollars. I'm not criticizing any of them in particular. I think a lot of them deserve the money that they've got. But like, no one who has a fortune of a billion dollars. hasn't gotten so without, you know,

basically government cooperation. Right. Whether that's like Apple, right? Apple would have died if it weren't for the fact that Apple was in every single elementary school in America for years, right? The Apple 2E sold tens of thousands of units so that, you know, third graders could play, um, you know, the original Oregon Trail. Like that's, you know, that saved Apple.

Yeah, but like that, you know, know that's a good that's that's Steve jobs getting billions of dollars from the government and I'm not saying this was wrong but that's what happened so rich people in America get rich by by government intervention and poor people survive off a government largesse yeah beautifully stated no bootstraps there yeah yeah and when you there's a a blogger by the name of La Grift Dule Leon, who was big in the 2000s. And he's the original of what's called smart fraction theory.

And Zeman and John Derbyshire talked about it. He was an HBD guy back in the day. But he uses a great analogy. He says, imagine you're a dude walking up a hill with a load on your back. And if you're a big dude who's used to carrying lots of stuff and your sack is really light and the hill is pretty flat, you can go all day. imagine now that you're a skinny dude going up a steep hill with a huge load on your back. It's going to be really slow.

And that person carrying everything forward is the fraction of a society above, I forget what the exact number was, but like 110 IQ, right? That's carrying the society forward and doing all the real and actual work, doing all the things that make society function, like provide clean water, like provide electricity. And the load of who you're carrying and how steep it is is how many people around you are, you know, able to also contribute.

And, you know, to get back to the Haitians thing, not one in ten of Haitians is capable of even contributing on the most basic level. And we're not even talking about like, oh, they don't speak English or they can't read or whatever, things that might be mitigated by some education. We're talking about they can't do it because they lack the IQ. Now, I would throw in there's some demons problems in there,

but that's me and I'm a, you know, hardcore nut, but like, there's no, right, there's no way for the regime, for the Nuremberg regime to deal with their dilemma, right? Kamala Harris knows everything we know, or someone around her does, guaranteed. So they know that the entitlement spending is out of control. They know that they can't, you know, Florida schools can't deal with the influx of Haitians.

They know all this stuff. And they just refuse to do anything about it because to admit anything, I mean, you're watching the regime destroy its legitimacy among middle-aged women just because they refuse to admit that, that boys are boys and girls or girls. Yeah. I mean, the regime cannot admit that there's a difference between boys and girls.

Something as basic as that. Otherwise, it loses, because all the dominoes go down. And Charles, you can talk about this all day long. But, like,

there's a reason the manosphere was such a path for most guys into all of this stuff, because the second you admit that there's differences in interests and aptitudes, abilities, whatever, between men and women, it naturally follows that those same,

things are not just confined to the sexes. Yes, you're exactly right. As a matter of fact, 100%. Yeah. Matter of fact, in my first book, I have the exact line that is the Manosphere. I wrote the Manosphere paradox. Enter the Manosphere,

wishing to get girls, leave not giving a shit about getting girls. And that's what happened to a significant percentage of guys. I wouldn't posit a number, but a very significant. percentage of men. They came in. They're like, oh, hey, I want to know what's going wrong. And this kind of dovetails somewhat with your point earlier to Pete about how this isn't a P problem. This is a systemic problem and it needs to be acknowledged as such, which I also want

to address something on that as well. But yeah, you're exactly right. A lot of guys got into that. And then they started realizing, well, if you start pulling, it goes back to what I call the sweater, the thread on the sweater theory. Once you start pulling at that, everything unravels. They started pulling it, why can't I get girls? And they end up with, so this is why we can't mass import Haitians. And you think it's a joke, but it's not really a joke. It's exactly what you're saying. Because a regime built on lies, once you start undermining one lie,

then they all start falling apart. They all just start collapsing. The thread just completely comes undone and the sweater is no longer a sweater. It's just a mess on the floor. And to address, just to give a bit of anecdotal proof to your statement about It's a systemic problem with the fertility crisis. The gal that I wanted to marry, but she left me after I'd lost my government career. Again, not a show about me, but just to use an example.

She has, I'll try and keep it very vague because I don't want to docks anybody. She has two sisters, neither of which have children. And she, the gal that left me and got married, she has one child. Last I checked. I mean, it's been a long time, but I know people that know her still. And the last I heard a few years ago is she has one child. Now, one gal that I know personally that I still talk to, she is one of four girls, none of whom have children, none of whom. And these are all females now between the ages of 38 and 48.

None of one child among all of them. Like, that's not a Pete problem. That's not a Charles Spadiel problem. that is a systemic issue. When you're talking about that many women don't have one child among all of them. Like that is unbelievable. I can't imagine there's a time in history that's ever seen numbers like that. I just can imagine.

And the bitter late millennial or late Xer, you know, childless woman is going to go absolutely insane. Oh, absolutely. Like Xanax's the power. box line is going to make some absolutely insane insane political choices here in the next five to ten years it's going to be yeah it'll be how it looks like a walk in the park yeah it'll be the it'll be the rage of an empty womb and I mean that very

sincerely it'll be it'll it'll be rage at a literal void and I it's it's horrific it's absolutely horrific yeah the fact that the assembly woman had women in politics pegged to 2,500 years ago and no one seems to bother to learn the lesson. Yeah. Oh, goodness. Yeah, man. Yeah, I can relate to the point about the

Manosphere, too, because I also went through that pipeline as well, and still know a good deal, people in that space. And, yeah, once you were able to draw that connection with the ginocracy and, like, intracial dynamics, it applies to a lot of other things from, like, mass migration and all of that. Once you have, like, a really feminine, society, all sorts of like this function is going to emerge downstream from that.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, all of this stuff just seems to all of these principles cross over into any subject you want. There are some basic principles and there are some basic human laws that you cannot escape. and you can apply them to everything. You can apply them to you do not want 67 IQ people flooding into your polity. You can apply it to the relationship between men and women. I mean, all of these things, these are just basic truths that are gone, that just don't get taught anymore.

And when they are taught, when somebody tries to bring them up, they're immediately shouted down. They're immediately a fascist. They're immediately this. They're immediately that. And it just goes to show you that it's, I can't say that we lost this because all of this was lost because we just moved on to something else. It was definitely done on purpose.

And the only way it's going to be reversed, the only way we're going to get those, I mean, the future doesn't have to look like the past. But the future has to have elements, has to have the truths in the past that we've always held on to that keep us going and create that civilizational capital that we need in order to have order. If we don't bring that back, we're going to, if it was, if it was purposely removed, it needs to be purposely put back in. Well stated. If it was intentionally obfuscated, then it has to be intentionally revealed. or rediscovered. Yeah, very well said. Yep. Very well said. Very well said. Anyone? I think that, I think that was perfectly stated. I mean, because as you say, it wasn't forgotten. It was intentionally obfuscated and remains intentionally obfuscated. And I think this is the

infuriating thing about modernity or about what these people do now, what the people do with these concepts. And I'm going to go, Jose may appreciate this, because I'm going to kind of pull an old Manosphere line and I'm going to use it. A fellow used to write by the name of Dalrock in the Manosphere. And he had. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he said this and it was absolutely brilliant.

And I love it. It's like you have to understand the almost everything we see today. The overwhelming preponderance of everything we see around us today is not water finding its own level. It is a massive pumping operation to sort of draw on these on these special You know, this is not water finding its own level. This is trillions, literally trillions of dollars of pumping equipment that are maintaining what we see around us for good or for ill, for better or for worse. This is not the natural state of men and women, men and women of man and male and female. This is not the natural state of people and their behavior. This is trillions upon trillions of dollars manufacturing, with these people, what we have around us. Some of it good, a lot of it bad. And when a lot of that

disappears, that's when, as you said, Pete, these fundamental laws of humanity will start reasserting themselves. And that's why the machine is so damn costly, because you are trying to undo or circumvent these laws that are, as you said, Pete, inescapable. And they are inescapable. And I'm not contradicting myself here because I'm saying that these trillion dollar machines that they have, they don't prevent the laws, they just hold them back a bit. The instant that machine even mildly starts to break down, when the oil just slowly starts to fade or somebody replaces it with dawn soap, then you start to see that it just, it breaks apart and then water finds its own level. That's why there was an old quote.

I can't remember who said it originally, but somebody said, be the oil in the machine, be the sand in the machine rather than the oil. And I think when it comes to modernity, a lot of people need to do that. They need to start being the sand in the machine rather than the oil. If that makes sense, do you gentlemen? Yeah, the more you look at when you,

if you break down and start looking at problems, it's one of the reasons why I really don't concentrate, on doing a lot of episodes where I'm talking about what's happening in the news. Because what you end up doing is you end up just basically reporting on it. Maybe you'll have a point about something that's happening, that somebody else isn't happening who's also reporting on it. But it all comes down to the answer to all of it is a return to fundamentals. And that's why it just gets boring after a while.

It's like, okay, well, how many times can I say this? How many times can you say the natural order of things have been co-opted? We are in this artificial world, this where everything is like this sweet and low world, where you have to be sweet, but, you know, we're living the lowest possible, you know, the lowest possible civilization that we have. And, you know, it's like the concept of the longhouse. We literally everything is the long house now. It's like people, people want to, people keep bringing up, you know, it's like you watch

them, like Stone Toss got docs this week. And like people are, like, people are celebrating like they've destroyed his life. And I'm like, the dude made like seven figures selling NFTs a couple years ago, like made a couple million dollars in like the span of 24 hours. I think he'll be doing. I think he's okay. I think he's fine. But they're all celebrating this. And when you when you watch them celebrate this, oh, we got this Nazi.

And people were like putting his name in their profile. They were using his profile name on X. And then they were and they were suspending people for it. They were suspending people's accounts because, you know, it's. It's like you're doing this on purpose, and now they're crying. It's all feminine. Yeah. Right.

Well, Dean knows I've been talking about this for years. The global global feminismization. Go ahead. There's some, there are some, I'm sorry, Dee. I will let you jump in, but I just want to address your couple points you raised Pete and a couple points Jose had raised to sort of broadly, in my own way, broadly. But if you'll pardon the pun broadly, that the global feminization, you could just see it. I mean, look at our regime. It's all built on niceties, not goodness. And I keep, this is a,

this is a drum I've been banging for much of my life. First off, one of the first points of feminization is you put in niceness, which, which is actually pro-social behavior, but not necessarily good behavior. It's just a smoothing behavior. It's a diplomatic behavior. It's not actually being good to anybody. You're just not causing a problem. You're not being hostile. That's the first thing. Another point that you're seeing. is projection. Remember, it's never the problem. It's never that person's issue.

It's somebody else doing it. And I mean, we see it. And again, I'm not trying to turn this into a Democrat or Republican issue, but we see the Democrats do this all the time in the United States. It's always, you know, the Republicans are selling secrets to, or selling uranium to Russia. The Republicans are doing this. They're cheating in the election.

And it's all the stuff the Democrats are doing. But it's, again, it's another female behavior. It's projection. It's what I'm doing, I'm going to accuse you of doing. Those are just two of the primary ways that the system operates. It's a heavy reliance on pro-social rather than actual good. And there's also a complete reluctance for any kind of sacrifice. Because, again, in the female brain, it's all about nesting.

It's all about resource hoarding. Ostensibly, or ideally, rather, it's that's to take care of one's children, one's offspring, one's family, but that's been hijacked now to just becoming a hoarder, just becoming it's all for me and for now for my own hedonistic pleasure. It's not actually for the benefit of anybody in the grander scheme. That's the irony of all this is they like to engage in pro-social behavior, or rather pro-social statements, but the actual behavior is very selfish. That's why all these people, again, use an example, all these people about climate change. we need to do this and we need to do that, we need to give up this, we need to give up that.

How many of these people are giving up their cell phone or all of these environmentally destructive things? None of them. They're not doing any of that. It's all about laws for V and not for me, which again is a very female way of doing things. Because whenever you tell a woman, no, they'll say, well, I have my reasons that you shouldn't tell me I can't do that because I have X, I have X reason. and I have Y reason. I have extenuating circumstances. But that's a very child-like logic,

because children will do the exact same thing. Well, it's okay if I do it. Well, why is it okay if you do it, child? Well, because I'm me. That's like, well, we could all say that. You know, Pete, why did you rob that liquor store? Well, because I'm Pete and I needed the money. It's like, well, okay, but that we could all say that, Pete.

So a lot of this stuff, as you say, it is the longhouse writ large. And that's why the workplace has devolved because a lot of places, and I haven't written this one out yet, I really should sit down and write this out. But when you bring women into a space, women are naturally nesting, nesting creatures. So they'll turn wherever they are into a nest. And that's a good thing. Don't get me wrong. A nest is very important, a place of safety.

Children need a peaceful, a placid place. They need security. They need shelter. They need nurturing. And that's a good thing. But you can't turn everything into a nest. The workplace is naturally a battlefield. Man only progresses through conflict.

Now, it doesn't have to be a violent conflict between men, but man versus nature, man versus himself, these things build, these are how men grow. This is how things progress in the sense of technological advancement, intellectual development, iron sharpens iron. So some places have to be a nest, and some places have to be a battlefield. But the reason everything is falling apart is once you bring women into things, then everything becomes a nest. Well, the workplace can't be a nest. It has to be a battlefield.

The military can't be a nest. It has to be a battlefield. But now they're nests. And that's why you're seeing all of these institutions fail because their most basic tenant, that is to be a battlefield, has been usurped. And now they're a nest. Sorry, Dee. So if you want to go ahead, Dee, that's my point. Well, and something I learned from you, Charles, is the problem with, say, minority populations, and you can see it when you interact with the more Jewish populations, right?

Is that they're very feminine in nature? Yes. Right. Shmali Botaev, you know, sitting there saying, oh, gosh, this is so terrible. Look at what Candace Owens is doing to me. No one's like, oh, it's really disgusting that I'm promoting my daughter. daughter's sex toy company. Right.

Like there's no masculine self-ownership of like, maybe this is my fault. Right. It's just constantly projecting like, what, why are you so mean to me? What did I ever do to you? I only called for genocide and all this other stuff. And I'm also promoting my daughter's sex toy company. But this is so someone else's fault, right? Like, yes.

Yeah. Like, bro, you're a disgusting, sick weirdo. Right. the idea of my daughter's daughter's sex toy company like I feel dirty even saying the word yeah exactly and look at like look at 2024 for you

look at inner city look at inner city black culture too like a lot of guys grow up a lot of young white guys grow up and a lot of women too they look at that and they think oh that's so tough that's so masculine because you know they don't take any shit blah blah blah it's like no take a step back and look they're all about money they're all about clothes they're all about dancing.

That sounds like women to me. Like that's like money. It's like that's if you really take a look at it, it's all actually very feminine, not masculine. Right. There's no self-ownership, but you can't look at the Haitians and be like, hey, maybe this is your fault. Maybe you suck.

Maybe you're dumb. Maybe you worship demons. Maybe you have too many kids that you can't afford. Maybe you shouldn't chop down the last tree and turn it in charcoal. Maybe you should, I don't know, not live in filth. Right. It's spiritually feminine. It's all very spiritually feminine.

And as I said, there is a place for the feminine. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist. Because if you eradicate the feminine, then you get the hypermasculine, which is tyranny and just absolute brutality. But it just has to be, there just has to be a balance. And we've gone way too far in the opposite direction.

I mean, yeah, they've long-house Boeing. Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. All these solutions in the world that you shouldn't longhouse, the people building fighter jets, I'm just saying. Yeah. Well, you know, that also goes towards the idea that they're doing this on purpose to try to get people to fly less.

I mean, I've decided about a year ago that I don't really want to fly if I don't have to anymore. you know, and it could go towards their whole, you know, their whole climate change kind of thing. But, you know, I mean, we are dealing with a competency crisis. And I think I've been trying to express that it's actually hopeful because, you know, if you want to, if you see a competency crisis, then you know you need to get, you need to get competent people in there. So people are going to, if people present. themselves as competent and can get the job done, people are going to rally behind them. You know, I also say, you know, people, I've been saying lately that, you know, everybody's like, well, you know, the J has run everything.

I'm like, okay, well, I, hey, you look around, it's, it's hard to argue when you look at, when you look at the top of every pretty much industry and everything. But everything's falling apart. It's like, there's a competition crisis. I'm like, okay, well, it looks like they're, they created a system. their system that they created cannot operate anymore you're going to have to step up

somebody's going to have to step up a group of people are going to have to step up and say we can do this and we can do it better and they're just going to have to prove themselves at this point and you know if people I think people are so

desperate now for somebody who can just do the job somebody who can just get things done that they're willing to put aside the old and usher in the new. I mean, and whatever that looks like, and I'm not even saying that that's something that I would necessarily want and I would necessarily endorse, but if it's something that is not hostile to me

and somewhat neutral at this point, then I'm perfectly fine with it. Dee, do you recall my fix-it monologue? we've talked about. Please share it with all those lucky to who were unfortunately, I would not heard it because it's perfect. Okay, to kind of riff off of your point, Pete, I've had this for years. And again, this goes back to something Jose and I were discussing earlier about the manosphere and the pipeline there. Well, I agree with you, Pete, 100%. I think what's going to change things? And I've said this for a long time and I used to get laughed out of the room at the beginning. I said, what's really going to change things is when we get women on our side. And I used to get people coming at me from all sides screaming at me. Oh, how can you be a man to sphere author and say that we need women? And oh, you're a cuck.

You're a simp. You're saying they need to lead us. And like, that's doomed to fail. And I'm like, okay, guys, you're not, you're not hearing me at all. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is we need to get women on our side. Because the only way things are going to change is when you unleash the 15% of the population that's being held back by the 85% of the population. that listens to women, that only does things to please women.

Because what we need now is a bunch of women to just look at their men and at men in general and say, fix it. And just to be true women to their very core and just be the ultimate pragmatists that they are. Remember, men are romantics pretending to be pragmatists. women are pragmatists pretending to be romantics just we need women to look at men and go fix it i'm going to be over here making dinner i'm going to be over here changing the baby's diaper i'm going to be over here doing the laundry what you've got to do to fix it i don't want to know i don't care to know that's not my issue i'm going to keep my head in the sand like most women do for most things that they find distasteful. And I'm going to let you be a man and go handle it.

Don't come home and tell me about it. I'm not interested. But I want to be able to go to the grocery store without getting cat called. I want our daughter to be able to school without getting groped. I want our son being able to get school without getting beat up. And I want you be able to come home from work without getting killed. That's what I want. Fix it. Fix it. And that's when things are going to change. Yeah. I agree with that too. Yeah.

And if anyone who doesn't think that that's right, just think back to COVID, okay? Would we have had the lockdowns? Would we have had the masking? Would we, any of that, if it wasn't for women? No. Women were leading the charge on that. And unfortunately, white women were leading the charge on that. Yeah.

I mean, in World War II, 1984, he said women, especially young women, were the most vociferous adherence to the party. I mean, Orwell wrote that forever ago. So yes. In 1948. And moms were the ones, were the biggest ones,

you know, moms for liberty, moms for, it was, it was the moms seeing their kids' educations go down the toilet who, you know, radicalized the most and went hard against it, too.

Who's fighting the trans thing now more than anybody? Right. Right. Middle age women with children. Yeah. moms are like the vanguard of the revolutionary classes in a lot of like revolutions from like the French revolution to even like the Bolshevik revolution you have like when the moms go out in the streets and like either at kids like dying because of starvation or whatever like going through like a lot of shit. What do you think happened in 1932? Yes.

Some lady was slowly watching your children starve to death. Yes. It was like, I don't care what you got to do, Dieter. Fix it. What do you think happened in Spain in 1936? Yep. Abuela said, Mijo, fix it. And he said, yes, abuela.

Yep. And you got it. That's it. Fix it. Fix it. Yeah, biology troops all. Yeah. Yeah, I thought you were going to say something, Jose.

No, no, that's all I had to say. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, um, people are just going to have to step up. I mean, and women, yes. Women, it's, it really is amazing how at this point where it's, the energy of everything is so feminine, what, um, what Jason from the two-bit podcast calls, um, the smothering mother. I can't remember what, what it, what it is, is, um, the devouring mother and the, uh,

the eventual son. Yeah, the devouring mother. And that's what we've been going, what, um, what has been the pretty, dominant spirit of the age since at least World War II. And what you're starting to see now is you're starting to see the age of the vengeful son, where the sun comes in and starts fighting back against the mother. And as he, as Jason points out, the hardest part is going to be being able to try to control it. Because we know how far it can go. And, you know, We want it to go just far enough that we go.

We get the change that we want, but we don't want it to go so far that we're stuck in 1789 and 1793 France. I've told people for years that I'm going to die on the left. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if I get the same. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if I got it. Because I'm still a Christian.

Like you don't, like for the, for the SPLC folks, for the ADL folks who are listening to this program, you don't understand just how angry the average dude who's 19 and has no prospects is and knows what we know and knows that it could be fixed easily if he just, you know, did redacted to everyone that you care about. Yep. That's exactly right. Yep. And whether it's a Haitian dude with a machete or an MS-13 dude or an angry white dude or whatever, you keep creating these revolutionary conditions or wymer conditions you're going to get ymar solutions whether you want to or not yep they it's set out of course of things like stew peters is going so hard in the paint right now stew peters right you know conservative yeah i was on his show

i was on stew peters show last friday uh we did a segment on what the what those men in the what books those men in the 1930s burned. And I was the reasonable voice in the thing. I was the one. The centrist. I was the one pulling the convert. Yeah, I was the one trying to pull him back and go, again, I get it.

Enlightened centrist. I've been there. I've, I was there. Now I'm, you know, I've moved on. I see, I see light at the end of the time. tunnel. And he's at the point where now he's just stuck in the tunnel. And all he can see is all this stuff that's, you know, that's coming in from all sides. He's, the noticing is, his noticing levels are insane right now. And I'm at the point where I'm just like, well, I see the name. I see

something horrific. I see the name. And I'm like, eh, what do I expect? Yeah. You know, we just got to, you're in a meditated state. Yeah. Yeah. We just got to come up with an alternative to all this. And that's, that's about it. I mean, present the alternative. And I think, um, what Charles there was talking about was good. And I will say, I wanted to mention that I got a letter recently from a female fan.

And, you know, it's like, holy crap, I have those. A listener, and she mentioned our last episode together, and she wanted to thank Charles because Charles went out of his way to, you know, praise mothers and what mothers do. Oh, well, if she's listening,

I appreciate your appreciation. I do. I sincerely do. Because I do trying to take a very balanced view of things. I think danger lies in taking either the long house, you know, or the tyrant. I do. So thank you. Yeah, we're at the point where it's, yeah, I went, I went off the rails there for about six months.

And I just couldn't. I mean, I was. I was floating back and forth. There was just so much. I was taking in too much information. And then it took basically to see, like, I think one of the things it really did, it was Matt Erickson said,

start following these tech guys on Twitter. And I'm watching, and I'm following these tech guys. And some of them are, you know, like pretty right-wing, David Sachs, Joshua Steinman. These guys are pretty, you know, pretty hard mega,

down the MAGA road. And, you know, retweet, some three tweet some of the people on our side too all the way over on our side too um but seeing the optimism that they have that got really infectious seeing that they're just like we don't care about it you know we're trying to build we're trying to build what comes next you know and i don't know if that technology is going to be great if it's going to be something that i'm going to embrace but it's hopefully it's going to be something that moves us past this option

obsolete system, something that can replace something in this obsolete system. And I don't know what that is. I mean, AI is looking impressive. I've started using AI for certain things, for certain research. There is an I saw an AI this week that was repairing code. Like, yeah, like repairing, actually it was floating all over Twitter. I actually replaced. pairing code. So it's like, okay, so it's how long before it's writing code, how long, how long before you just get an, you get a, you get a subscription to AI and you're like, okay, write me an APK that I can release my RSS feed on and I'll put it on my website or I'll, I'll get it in the Google store, or I probably won't get in the Google store, but I can release

it on my website and people who can just listen to my podcast directly through my web, and it just builds it for you. I mean, there are things coming down the pike that a lot of people, you know, I'm, you know, I'm a semi-Luddite. Some of it worries me, but I don't want to stand in the way of it because I actually believe that I'd rather live in a world created by these people than the monsters that, than these monsters right now. I've always thought, to riff off of your point, Pete, I always thought, I believe it's the Mennonites, forgive me, if I'm incorrect, somebody went. to correct me in your audience, by all means, I'll humbly take it. But I believe it's the Mennonites, not to be confused with the Amish. It's, they are a very, they are much like yourself in the sense, very bloodite tendencies. But what they do is they communally, the church father, their church

fathers, wherever you want to put, look at it, their faiths followers, leaders rather, excuse me, their church leaders. They look at it. They look at the new technology that comes along and they say, will this benefit our community? Yes or no. And they engage with it intellectually in that sense. And then they decide what are the ramifications, the best that we can foresee. Obviously, man, has a limited vision, but they do the best they can. And I think that's a good way to do it. And I think that's what you're sort of doing in your own way, is that whole, okay, I have my, I have my trepidation regarding a lot of this. But perhaps it could be useful. And instead of just kind of knee-jerk, denying it, let me see if it can be used for good and let me see what the dangers are within it.

And I think that's exactly the way it should be handled. Like fire, frankly, you know, we should have the same attitude toward fire. Fire is a very good thing. Can't have civilization without it. But it doesn't mean you just, you know, light your sofa on fire and say everything's great. So, yeah, I think that's good. I think you got it. Yeah. Well, if nobody has another subject they want to touch on, We've been going a little over an hour and a half. We can end this. Anybody have anything else they want to pull up?

Bring up. No, I'm okay at the moment. No, it's been great to discuss. Cool. All right. Plug away. Jose, plug what you're going to plug. Yeah, doing the usual of my substack, Jose Niño, unfiltered,

dropping weekly articles there and getting back into doing some recordings next week now that I'm like all settled in my new place. Yeah, you can still follow me on X at Jose Aligno. Yeah, go to, go to Jose's substack and episode 107 of his podcast has this dark enlightenment guy. It was a pretty good one. Oh, yeah, he's insufferable. I got to listen to that guy all the time already anyway with the phone.

Oh, thank you very much for having me, Jose. A polite, centrist conversation there. Yeah. What do you have to plug the? Just my Telegram channel. For those of you who are listening and please either download the app directly from, if you've got Google or are able to use the browser bypass for Apple users. But I've been censored and I know that folks have asked like, hey, I tried to click on the link and can't.

It's because I said some naughty words one time. So Google and its infinite wisdom decided that you don't deserve, or you can't hear what I think because I was mean. All right. I'll make sure to link to that. And yeah, what do you say in is if you get the Telegram app, get it off their website, don't get it out of the stores. The stores, they censor a lot of things.

I'll see stuff. Stuff will be shared in my chat that on one of my devices I have it downloaded from the store, I won't be able to read it. So yeah, we go get it off of their website. And Charles, do you have anything? If anybody's interested, I still do have two books on Amazon. Both are, I need to clean them up and do second editions, but I have whiskey and ashes and inebriates, vowels, maxims, and observations. And then I have another book under my name, Charles Padil, and that is the holistic guide to suicide.

It's all about coping with depression and suicidal ideation, trying to get yourself out of a bad situation. So if any of those, either of those sound appealing to you, I humbly ask you pick them up from Amazon. Thank you. All right, gentlemen. Until the next time. And, you know, let's plan on it like a month from now. I think if we plan that far in advance, we should be able to do something, right? Sounds good.

Sounds good. All right, gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you, Pete. Thank you for having me, Pete.