The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1037: They Want You Dead on the Inside Too w/ Dark Enlightenment

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

66 MinutesPg-13Pete invited his friend Dark Enlightenment to return to the show to talk about how those in charge carry out continuous existential attacks on our very being.DE's Telegram ChannelVIP Su...mmit 3-Truth To Freedom - Autonomy w/ Richard GroveSupport Pete on His WebsitePete's PatreonPete's SubstackPete's SubscribestarPete's GUMROADPete's VenmoPete's Buy Me a CoffeePete on FacebookPete on TwitterBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-pete-quinones-show--6071361/support.

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Starting point is 00:02:50 I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekingano show, and DE is ready to go, so good, good. So Pete, I don't know if you saw But we have now Like redacted messages from I believe Francis Collins and other people Basically admitting that like those of us were like Hey, this is a bio weapon. You guys are doing something weird This was a lab. You're lying
Starting point is 00:03:14 This is proved now like completely vindicated And now these people want to be like, well, it was a pandemic And we didn't know what we were doing Please don't throw us in jail No, I mean That was to be expected, right? I mean, it was, here's what we knew. We knew back then that one day this would come out. Maybe it would be 70 years, you know, on, they'd release it, maybe to be a couple years. Well, we also knew that no one was
Starting point is 00:03:41 going to do anything because our people aren't in charge and, you know, they, they just get to walk. They get to say, uh, we, we screwed up. Um, and, um, we were doing the best we can. And, um, you know, don't you know but you're there's nothing you can do about it basically yeah right exactly and that's the thing that that uh i bring that up because uh in india Oklahoma which is a small town outside of Oklahoma City um there was a guy who'd been to Charlottesville who had been elected to the city council and he just got recalled after a massive effort by the left hit piece by um NBC news and a whole bunch of this stuff the only place he got any like sympathetic coverage was like V-Dair, which that's a whole other thing that makes me super, super mad.
Starting point is 00:04:31 But, right, this whole notion, you know, before we're recording, I was telling you that how your emphasis on elite there is basically the only thing keeping me from, like, crippling depression right now because, right, they're just in power. And so they get to do what they want. And this whole notion of, like, the democratic will of the people and knowledge of like, no, no, no. The vast majority of people, and this is where something where the left is actually correct, right? The left, you know, the average leftist treats politics like their religion. They take it seriously. They will tell other people what to do. And conservatives want to sit here and be
Starting point is 00:05:10 like, well, I shouldn't tell other people what, no, no, no, no, no. Most people are slaves. They do not want to be free. Being free is work. I mean, think about all the reading you've done just on this show that if you hadn't done that reading you wouldn't understand the world at all I was thinking about it as it was preparing for the show today like if I was to give someone like a a six pack of like books that you had to read to understand just how the world works basically right I was thinking about it and it's all books that you've talked about I was thinking Uncle Ted uh Neema's book um the bell curve um race warren high school
Starting point is 00:05:55 race warren high school might be one on the on the list um but like that's thousands of pages of dense political reading that most people don't want to do um john calhoun disquisition on government like like conservatives are delusional and um it is precisely because they're so delusional that were censored because the second that they because you and i both used to be conservatives and libertarians. The second you, like, actually tell them the truth, they go, oh, yeah, I guess it is that way.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And then the next day, they, you know, they, they listen to you, they accept it. And then you see them the next day and they've completely forgotten about what you were talking about. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, they really get off on being the,
Starting point is 00:06:56 the victim, they get off on being the loser. And then they try to like take this moral stand by doing it. It's like, well, you know, you can't, you can't, I just want to be left alone. Don't you just want to be left alone? Well, actually, no. Actually, no, they don't want to just be left alone and they don't want, well, they want to be left alone, but they don't want to leave you alone. You want to be left alone and you want to leave other people alone, but they want to be left
Starting point is 00:07:23 alone, but they don't want to leave other people alone. Okay? Their entire existence is dependent on, like this is Calhoun, right? Like in any society, there's going to be the people that pay taxes and the people that receive taxes. And if they're the people that receive taxes, whether that's government workers or central bankers or underclass people or the teachers union or whatever, they're the people that They're getting taxed, getting the tax money.
Starting point is 00:07:55 No public employee ever pays taxes. Yeah. They're just taking money from the, when they pay taxes, it's taken money from your wallet in your left hand pocket and putting in your right hand pocket. That's all. Yeah. So this. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:08:16 So this is what, if you can't understand this. And I mean, for the folks listening, congratulations, you know, I've, I've profited immensely from Pete's work and his friendship. And it's a real honor. But, you know, for those of you who are just listening, don't think that like, oh, I'm just listening. Now, this is really, really important. The messages, the reading that Pete's doing here is basically a graduate course in how to unscrew up your mind from the regime. indoctrination for conservatives. And it might be the most important project in our entire sphere right now by doing things
Starting point is 00:08:58 like reading Calhoun and Camp the Saints and all of this other stuff that Pete's talking about. You know, every single one of the series with Thomas, I've said this privately to Pete, but I'll say it publicly, is like a college class. It's like a graduate, you know, upper level graduate college class. of series of lectures with Thomas going over how World War I was nonsense or World War II. And you have to understand how all this stuff is nonsense before you can even begin to fight back. Because the second, right, what did they say about Mr. Blevins?
Starting point is 00:09:40 And this NBC hit piece. The only people who would give Mr. Blevins a fair hearing is VDair. And VDare is like going away at the end of the month, tragically. The second, like, oh, if this guy who's, from Oklahoma and believes in the people of Oklahoma and the state of Oklahoma, if we let him have his thing, that's basically Hitler. That was the, that was the hit piece on NBC, you know, NBC News, right? So it's the regime, the Nuremberg regime, justifying itself in this insane way that
Starting point is 00:10:16 you have to believe nonsense, otherwise, mustache man. Well, here's what I will say, and this is what people have asked, oh, you know, Thomas, why do you have Thomas on all the time? What? The Nulte episodes. So we have two Ernst Nulte episodes released, and we recorded the third one last night, and it's available to subscribers right now. It'll be published by the time this comes out. People really need to listen to those episodes because what Nalti is describing is he's, he's describing a people who existed and still exist.
Starting point is 00:11:07 But specifically when he's talking about the 1920s and 1930s, he's talking about a people who their ideology was spreading all over the world. It had taken over Russia. It had taken over Spain. And it was an ideology of not only killing the physical body, but killing who you are. And the soul. It killed the human soul. I mean, everything about it.
Starting point is 00:11:38 They, they, if you want to know a good picture of what they were, and then, you know, the communists be like, no, that was the anarchist. No, same thing. Same thing. Sorry. Look at the disinterring of the nuns in Spain. Look at them executing 6,000 priests, nuns and seminarians in a six-month span, twice the amount of people who were killed in the Inquisition over the span of 300 years.
Starting point is 00:12:08 In the span of six months, they killed 6,000 priests, nuns, and seminarians burned down 8,000 churches. They tried to kill Spain. They tried to destroy Spain. They did more damage to Spain than 700 years of Moorish occupation. Yeah. I mean, at least the Moors allowed them to still be Catholics. Or be Spanish, right? Yeah. So, I mean, people forget about this, but the Bavarian Socialist Republic was the thing in 1919.
Starting point is 00:12:36 The German Navy almost completely over, you know, communist stuff. They weren't just, you know, I've been introduced to lots of thinkers thanks to Thomas. And I pride myself, you know, think of myself as reasonably well-unformed and well-read. compared to your average me, I suppose I am, but I'm always learning stuff, always learning stuff when, when you guys talk. And, you know, I have this, you know, oh, we're going to pick up this book.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And my, my, thank you to Thomas stack of books is probably as tall as I am, you know. But it's because these people, you know, and what did they do to China? They destroyed China. You know, a 5,000-year-old civilization that was dependent on the family and this and right order
Starting point is 00:13:27 the Confucian idea of right order within the family and within the society of these are the duties parents have the children these are the duties siblings have to each other these are the duties you have to aunts and uncles or cousins well in the one child
Starting point is 00:13:44 one child policy China there are no aunts and uncles there are no cousins There is no, you know, traditional Chinese society. It's been destroyed by the communists. Russia, the reason they hate Vladimir Putin so much is that Vladimir Putin, for all of his faults or whatever, is turning Russia around and Russia is recognizably Russian again, or at least, you know, trying. and the idea that we can like compromise or come to some sort of modus vivendi with people who think that it's normal to like burn churches and like
Starting point is 00:14:30 rape nuns I mean I feel dirty even using the phrase you know rape nuns it's viscerally it gives me the creepy crawlies man I hate it it's so gross it's so evil it's so evil it's so disgusting. And the Republican Party and the establishment will compromise with the communists over the nationalists because they have a please eat me last type attitude. And they'll always lose. They will always lose.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And that's why the elite theory stuff is so important. Because all we need is like five guys. who are in power in some fashion doesn't need to be Elon Musk, doesn't need to be Eric Prince, doesn't need to be, it can just be, you know, like Greg Abbott realizing that like, because he was, you know, a big, big ag guy in Texas for years, he didn't do anything about it, but he finally realized, oh, wait a minute, like Texas will be uninhabitable in 20 years if I don't do something right now. Well, yeah, congratulations. Good job, buddy. Peter Brimel has been screaming about this for 25 years.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Good job. But, you know, I'm sure Greg Abbott would rather be, you know, the governor of Texas as an independent Texas, you know, the president of Texas, than like the de facto sovereign of like three blocks around Austin because the rest of Texas has fallen to anarcho tyranny. Those are his choices. So. There's so much rope me on sports extra from Sky.
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Starting point is 00:17:44 Good luck. And people are screaming for someone to change all this, and you mentioned somebody like a Greg Abbott who, I think you're just using them as an example. But you mention anyone, and it's going to be somebody who's already in the system. It's going to be a known entity. Caesar was a known entity. Binochet was a known entity.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Franco was a known entity. If you're going to scream because, oh, that's an insider, it's always an insider. Napoleon was an insider. Like, these were all, like, you think that these guys were just generals and then, like, they were like, hey, man, I'm really good at this military stuff. You should make me a general and let me take over your society. That never happened. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:33 Like these guys had been through the whole system. They'd been through, you know, in Cesar's case, he's been through the cursus honor room and done really well, you know. Napoleon was part of the revolution, but he was the best military commander. So that's how the cookie crumbles, you know. People don't want to accept the fact. that these people are serious, and they're serious about destroying who you are.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I mean, that's what this whole trans thing is. The trans thing is just a picture into what they want. They want to be able to say X is actually Y. 2 and 2 does not equal 4, and we're going to create this issue. We're going to create this problem. We're going to politicize it. We're going to make it so that if you don't bow down to it, you know, you're a bad person. You're a fascist.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And they're basic, what they're doing is they're create, it's a picture of creating a Soviet man or a Soviet woman or a Soviet woman that you, that is a man who thinks it's a, whatever you want to call it. They're creating. It's not even like they want to destroy who you are. They want to destroy all human beings everywhere. Right. They, they're explicit goal. They're very, very clear about this. They want everyone to be 10% Asian, 5% West African, 13% South American Indio, 5% Sami, blamber, a little bit of Russian, maybe some French. You know, they don't want there to be any culture in the world. they'll talk about, you know, oh, respect for indigenous, you know, whatever, like they're doing it in Australia right now, right? That the voice vote didn't pass.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Voice to Parliament didn't pass thanks in large part to efforts of men like Blair Cottrell and Joel Davis and Thomas Sewell, nationalists to save their nation. But the big cities are doing it anyway. Well, okay. If the aboriginals are so important, then why, why won't you? you let the aboriginals just live like aboriginals. Why do you have to like give them housing? Why do you have to, you know, you're destroying the Aboriginal way of life, not that I think much of Australian Aborigines, but like if they're just so special and wonderful and they need to have a voice and everything and they need to be in charge of the government and they need to do this
Starting point is 00:21:16 and they need to be that, then like let them run around in the bush and eat kangaroos. Why even bother sending them to school? Like if average, being an aborigine is so great. Right. If all non-white cultures are inherently superior and inherently better, like, go let him be that. Why? Why like, oh, no, you can't have television. You can't have computers. No internet for you. You're aboriginy. And your culture is too important to be polluted by the internet and television and cars and whatever else. No, they want to destroy everything. They're just using all these other things as a weapon of convenience. to destroy all human societies. Thomas talked about in the unreleased episode, the one that will be out on Monday, the Potetsi prison experiments in Romania. And basically what these...
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you, I have the book, the anti-humans, I have Asimus.com because it's impossible to find. And if you understand what they were trying to do in Romania, they were trying to re-engineer humanity. And they were trying to turn humanity into,
Starting point is 00:22:36 it's very, you can turn somebody into a slave. I mean, you can force someone to work your fields. You can't make them, you can't take them back to zero. And the whole goal was to take them back to zero, to destroy and strip everything from them, everything from their minds, to make them feel like the only thing that they could possibly do
Starting point is 00:23:04 was embrace the state, embrace this, I don't even want to call it an ideology. Oh, it's pure Satanism. Like, yeah, that's all it is. It's pure evil. And as interesting as the nulti episodes have been, One of the things, and this is why we're so censored and so everything,
Starting point is 00:23:31 been better than us, men braver than us, men smarter than us, all across the world. In France, in Spain, in Italy, in Germany, in, you know, in England, you know, fought this. They saw the stakes in Belgium, you know, read what Leon de Grisle had to say about, like, I put it up on my telegram, but I was rereading burning souls over Easter and listening to your track
Starting point is 00:24:04 and it made me cry, man. Like, there's a man who understood what the stakes were and he loved God and he loved life and he loved creation so much that he was willing to go like fight and die in this horrible hellscape
Starting point is 00:24:16 of the Eastern Front for it. And he was an exemplar of that reaction to just how evil communism was or is rather but all over the world there are people who saw it
Starting point is 00:24:33 and fought against it and that's and basically you know we're censored because we're anti-communists because the Nuremberg regime exists to like disempower people who notice just how awful
Starting point is 00:24:47 communism is that's the point well it's also to just take away everything that we have. And it has. It's taken, there are very few people
Starting point is 00:25:03 that you can point to who are operating in societies that have been, I don't even know if you can call them societies anymore, that have been taken over by this where people have a sense of,
Starting point is 00:25:20 of their history. You know, when it comes to being, you know, ontological ideas and philosophical ideas as such, the first thing that people should go to is where they came from and who they came from. And that's been all but stripped in most places. And it's something that most people don't even give a second thought to.
Starting point is 00:25:58 You know, we're, we live in this gigantic strip mall. And it's how you operate within the strip mall culture is how you're judged. It's not judged by who you came from, where you came from. That's why I'm so glad to be surrounded by so many people who, you know, in my personal life now, whose families have been living in the same place and operating the same business and doing the same things for over 200 years. Because they know who they are, and they would never leave. There's no thought of them going somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And they're rightfully suspicious of outsiders. And that's just not allowed anymore. That's racism. That's fascism. That's backwards. These are just backwards people. Yeah, well, the correct response to that is yes and. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I mean, if being someone who's forward-thinking is being the kind of person that the people I grew up around in New York City, who are completely deracinated from anything, and, I mean, they're living in a city. How do you build a legacy in a city? How do you build a legacy in an apartment where you're renting? It's... Yeah, it's tough. And I'm, you know, I could go on about at that length. But the, the important thing that people need to understand, if you're listening to this, right, the regime hates you.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And I can't remember if it was Matt from, remember who's Matt Erickson, you know, like, you don't live in a society anymore. You don't live in a culture anymore. Was it Matt from two, or? Matt from Kingfield. Okay, Matt from Kingfield. You don't live in a society anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So you don't, you know, if you're one of those people, right, who all of your ancestors wore gray, and you live in rural northeast Mississippi, and your family has lived in that same area for 300 years, or 175 years, right? the system's trying to destroy you. You don't live in a society anymore. That's bad.
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's awful. There's all kinds of negative consequences to that. But conversely, you don't owe it. You don't owe the regime anything. You don't owe it the time of day. And so instead of being worried about what the regime thinks or what the national news thinks or whatever, you just go on and being that person from rural Mississippi whose ancestors all wore gray
Starting point is 00:29:04 and you keep your Confederate dollars because they're going to be worth something again someday if enough people believe it's so right and it might just might just be in your little corner of Northeast Mississippi where Confederate dollars are once again legal tender but they might you know but the dollar is not going to be checking you know like So stop caring what the regime thinks. Live in it. Do you remember the late Larry Oster? Pete, does that name ring a bell?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Not off the top of my head, no. Larry died about 10 years ago. He was a Jewish convert to Catholicism, Christianity, and then Catholicism on his deathbed, wrote a blog called View from the Right and was pretty influential on me. I found it via John Derbyshire and National Review of all places, actually back in the early 2000s, when National Review was still worth something. But after Obama was elected a second time, he made a great point. And I've tried to live by this and failed sometimes, but it's worth saying that I no longer consider the regime legitimate.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I'll pay the taxes and obey the law just because I don't want to avoid jail. but this is no longer a government that I can respect that I care about whose good opinion matters to me, whose officers I will, you know, defer to in any meaningful way. Like, no, none of these people deserve any respect. None of these people deserve. And until Greg Abbott does something to actually help Texans, he should be relentlessly mocked. he should like fear going outside because stand up for Texas you bleepiddy bleep bleep bleep you know he should be more afraid of being turfed out and made fun of by the average Texan than whatever the regime thinks because the regime is it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:31:35 It doesn't... Well, not to say it doesn't matter in this instance of like, I can't throw you in jail. But like, in terms of legitimacy, they're not. They're not legitimate. They're not a government that anyone should respect. There's so much rugby on Sports Exter from Sky. They've asked me to read the whole lad at the same speed
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Starting point is 00:33:14 Disney Zootropolis 2 in Cinema's November 28th. Good luck. I love you. Yeah. They create the situations. They go out of their way to create the situations that would have you have to become reliance upon them, which is why people who aren't reliance upon them are demonized are they seek to you know a farmer who can grow his own food they seek to come up with
Starting point is 00:33:43 every possible regulation to make their life miserable if they own their own land they continue to tax them if they dare to sell raw milk they will show up with a swat team i've i'm not exaggerating i've seen video footage of swat of swat teams yeah farmageddon is uh it's i think it was made by lefties but that doesn't matter. It's still one of those documentaries that you want to see because you'll see exactly what they'll do to people who can provide for themselves, can survive on their own and not have to rely upon the government.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's why they love cities so much. They love cities so much because they get people to move there. It's impossible. Eventually, somebody's going to get on, you're either going to have a bunch of rich people who move there that they become tax cattle. or you have a bunch of poor people who move there who become tax feeders. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:34:42 It's the perfect kind of synchronicity for them. And weirdly, the rich people who will live in cities will continue to vote for these people, and the poor people who live in cities will continue to vote for these people. But as soon as you get outside of those cities and you're like, oh, I can actually provide for myself. Huh. Well, like, those are, yeah, those are the people that they need to do. destroy. Yeah. Well, or just like the whole like the constitution. Um, look at what, uh, Michaela Scott or McKenzie Scott or whatever Jeff Bezos is his ex-wife. Look at the damage she's
Starting point is 00:35:23 done with her billions and tell me bills of a tanger are a bad thing. Like, no, we're just taking that like you're, you can live in Malibu and have your private jet, but this whole like hundred million dollars to things that destroy the country. No, we're just taking your money. Right? Yeah. They don't, people don't get, people will defend that because capital, because quote unquote, capitalism.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And it's, it's amazing how the same people who will tell you, well, that isn't real capitalism. You know, that's cronyism. As soon as you start attacking cronyism, they start saying, why are you attacking capitalism? Um, will be because. That's the same thing. dumbass. Yeah, because like I said,
Starting point is 00:36:10 you're retarded. Like I said last time, right? Nobody got rich without government intervention. Jeff Bezos depended on the post office to be rich.
Starting point is 00:36:34 If the post office didn't carry his stuff for cheap or free, you know, he would, he would have been able to, you know, so he's socialist roads and, you know, Walmart, right? They use socialist, socialist roads and, and, uh, EBT for their employees to cover their, like, there's nobody who in the system. And it's impossible otherwise. To give you just a quick example, do you know where to C-130 is, Pete? Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Okay. I think it's a really cool airplane. Not a jet. You know, 4-engine tripoprop can land on rough fields. Really great, you know, kind of rough field, short-field aircraft. One of those, a new one, is $100 million. Near enough, like 80 or 90, depending on, you know, like whatever, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Like a fortune that would last like multiple lifetime. Yeah. And who gets that money? I mean, and does it really cost $100 million? Or is 75 of that being diverted somewhere else? And 100% though, the money that that money is, which is technically tax money is just created out of thin air. It's inflation at this point. It's going to be turned around and used against you.
Starting point is 00:38:20 It's going to be used against you in some way. the people getting rich from this, they don't hate the government. So I think there are people who get rich from the government who don't like the government at all. They're just taking it as an opportunity and maybe they're biding their time. There's just probably a couple out there. But for the most part, Daniel McAdams was telling me about a, when he used to live in D.C., there was this community that didn't exist, and then he went there in the last couple years, and this community just popped up.
Starting point is 00:38:54 It's a community from boat. It's Boeing. It's all people who lobby and work for Boeing. And it's the whole community. Well, why would they, why would they have their own community there? Well, they used to have their own senator. I mean, you're old enough to remember Henry Jackson. It's one of the last, you know, like he was no joke, the senator from Boeing.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And that would actually be a little bit more honest, right? Like, if, if Lindsey Graham had to wear like, a NASCAR style suit with like Rithion and with Donald Douglas and you know, whatever whoever else is behind him on his
Starting point is 00:39:36 as opposed to a 3P suit. Right. But like, of course there's an entire community full of people from Boeing. If you could live around a bunch of people that you like worked with and liked and and you know, again, There's no such thing as a private billion dollar corporation.
Starting point is 00:40:01 There's a just, I mean, go back and re-listen to the John C. Calhoun episodes again, reread them, read it yourself, listen to them two or three times. There is no such thing as purely private economy. There's people in power and there's people out of power and there's people who are dependent, on the state, right? If you have power and money that's somehow tied to the state
Starting point is 00:40:39 apparatus, it can't not be. I mean, that's just how it works. The state apparatus is how we generate and allocate money and power. That's the point of the apparatus is to like hand out money and power to people.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah. I mean, I was telling you privately, but like, I can't believe I ever took Thomas Jefferson seriously after rereading Calhoun. Yeah. I mean, Thomas Jefferson is it's platitudes, it's wishes, it's, it's fantasy. It's just, it's just flights of fancy. And, you know, it's one of those ways, it's one of the reasons why, once you really start studying and understanding power, you're like, all right, I don't hate Alexander.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Alexander Hamilton as much as I used to. Because he was one of the only ones who was realistic about the whole thing. He's like, this is going to turn, this is going to be a bank, this is going to be a bank attached to a state. Okay? That's what, that's what countries become.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Let's just get it out of the way right from the start. Well, or just admitting that power was real. I mean, something as simple as, is power is real. You're going to have to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And you're, right, you know, for up until, I would say, World War I probably, we were just a, you know, I mean, listen to Tom Luongo. Tom's, Tom's been banging on about this for, like, a couple of years, right? The city of London ran America for 150 years. Yeah. I mean, you can make a pretty good case that, I mean, I don't know how tinfoil you want to get, but like the Federal Reserve
Starting point is 00:42:49 Ross Child Bank Connection, J.B. Morgan, like, I mean, you can make a pretty solid argument that they still do. And, you know, Jerome Powell, the Fed chairman, right, that we're all supposed to hate because end the Fed, it's the most terrible. You know, we're supposed to. I remember hating the Fed chairman for years. But Jerome Powell is like the one, maybe we'll have a handful of people in Washington who's actually trying to preserve a American sovereignty. That might be completely out of his own self-interest of like there's no point of being, you know, king of the dung heap if the dollar goes to zero. But, you know, what's the point of being Fed chairman then? But Jerome Powell is actually trying to divorce our system from the city of London.
Starting point is 00:43:42 So, you know, Alexander Hamilton might have been a bad guy, you know, ran around on his wife. you know, dueled, drank excessively, whatever. But he was at least acknowledging that, like, you have to have your own bank to be sovereign. I don't like it. But it's true. Yeah. It's very easy to look at the Fed because, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:19 money printing abilities, what they can do with interest rates, basically. And, yeah, and you'll even, even get people who are, you know, big fans of the founders, he'll be like, well, Congress should be running that. That's what, that's what Congress is for. Sure, I agree. Should, should, would could.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Outs. It ought to be like this. I mean, you just act like libertarians all day. But, you know, what is he doing now? What is, you know, as Luongo, yeah, I had somebody come into the, into the live chat on a live stream, and just start arguing about, about Powell, saying, Powell's not our friend and everything.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I'm like, well, go listen to Luongo. I see, he goes, I listen to Luongo. I just disagree with him. And I'm like, that's great. That's, okay. At least that's honest. At least you went and listened to them. You can't get people with platforms that could actually get a message out there,
Starting point is 00:45:22 you know, that possibly could, You know, I'm not a populist. I'm not, I don't want, you know, like, I think it would be really scary if 200 million people all of a sudden decided that the Fed was, the Fed needed to be ended. Because when you have that, if you have that many people, you're leaning a little more towards what France was in the 1790s than what the United States was, what the revolution, the differences between the revolutions. and really we don't want the French one here. Maybe we're... Yeah, we definitely don't want the French one.
Starting point is 00:46:00 We can maybe argue about the American one, but definitely don't want the French. Right. But just trying to get through people's goals that, okay, listen, look at the look at what the evidence is. Look at what he's talking about. You know, you shared this Fortune article with me
Starting point is 00:46:16 where he's talking about commercial real estate, something I was talking about in March of, 2020 because I said, oh, all these people working from home, all these companies are going to figure, well, we don't need to pay for brick and mortar. I'm like, we're going to have a commercial real estate crisis at some point. And, you know, it seems like he's locked into the fact that, yeah, there's some real bad commercial, there's some commercial real estate problems happening now. And, you know, what happens if we have a commercial real estate crisis?
Starting point is 00:46:48 Oh, it's already there. Yeah. it's impossible to avoid there's articles in Forbes and Fortune so this is not like you know, team foil hat conspiracy dot you know, dot biz basically
Starting point is 00:47:07 right and Donald Trump actually probably would would be one of the best people to be in office to understand this because he's built a billion dollar fortune off of commercial real estate but you know two generations of three generations of his family involved in commercial real estate but for for ease of math right
Starting point is 00:47:30 a big building in a core downtown of any big city in America Houston Dallas Atlanta Miami New York Los Angeles whatever is going to be like a hundred million dollars right and even really really rich people don't like just spending $100 million straight up without any kind of return.
Starting point is 00:47:58 So what they'll do is they'll spend $15 million in finance and rest, right? Because the architects are going to cost, you know, a couple million bucks all by itself. The structural engineers are going to cost millions of dollars. The construction is going to cost millions, tens of millions of dollars. You know, the concrete guys alone are going to cost millions of dollars. No one wants to just lay out this huge sum of money for no word. return or no return over time. So they talk to banks, just like this is what that, uh,
Starting point is 00:48:30 Donald Trump had to go to, uh, you know, the half billion dollar fine or whatever that ended up getting, getting reduced. Um, that was over this sort of deal. Well, you know, they, they have us like this thing needs to be, you know, X percent occupied for this thing to pay off. And it's usually like 80 percent. plus somewhere between 80 and 90. They don't want it like 100% occupied because that leaves them with no flexibility all the time.
Starting point is 00:49:00 But like, you know, mostly occupied. Well, all of these and a lot of local governments, right, they're dependent on the property tax revenue brought by these commercial buildings. Your businesses pay property taxes. If you own the building, you pay property taxes, right? So whoever owns that building, that your office is. in, you know, pays property taxes. And that goes to schools and roads and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Well, if none of these buildings are actually worth any money, you know, to use the $100 million building example, right, you've got $85 million financed.
Starting point is 00:49:43 In order to pay off that $85 million financed, you have to have 80% occupancy of the building. Otherwise, you can't pay the bank back. or the building is worth less money. And so the bank will say we have this building worth $100 million. We have 85% of it as part of our portfolio. It's an asset. We can get loans. What if that building is only worth $70 million?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Because it's not instead of being 85% occupied. It's 65% occupied. All of a sudden, the bank has a huge problem because they're not getting, you know, the landlord is not getting paid. So he's going to have a hard time making the note. And whatever the bank is done on the back end of like, we have this gigantic asset. And if they have to mark that down,
Starting point is 00:50:43 huge numbers of banks in this country will just go belly up that fast, like instantly because they'll have taken a 5, 10, 15% cut in, in what their evaluation is and then the margins are too small for them to just weather that without having a major problem and then what is the city going to do they're dependent on this tax revenue
Starting point is 00:51:13 of XYZ tower that's worth $100 million they pay $250,000 a year in property taxes when they're only paying $175,000 in property taxes next year. What are you going to do then? Where are you trying to go up with the extra, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:39 75,000 bucks? You know, it's a gigantic mess. And this is, this is what libertarians ought to be doing is like spiking the ball in the end zone on this sort of stuff as opposed to being like, as there is pronouns are this and like illegal Mexicans should be allowed to have guns because everyone deserves to have guns, even though, like, crazy people who are, like, high all the time.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Well, priorities, right? I mean, really, how many of them own commercial real estate? All the libertarians, I used to know, none. No, I have not owned commercial real estate. No, I have an uncle who made a lot of money in commercial real estate for a lot of years, especially in the 80s. But that doesn't make me an expert on it. It doesn't make me, but I can still talk about it. I can still examine it.
Starting point is 00:52:40 it just isn't on, you know, their radar. And it really, it means, take it to conservatives, too, is it on their radar? They're not thinking about it. They're not thinking, I mean, what is it? They could be talking about this, or they could be talking about Michelle Obama's penis. What would they rather be talking about? Big Mike. Good.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Well, I mean, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, be honest, talking about Big Mike is far more entertaining. It's entertaining. It's entertaining, yes. But it's, you know, still, it's like, what, what are you doing? You know, why are you going after TikTok? What is it? The enemy is within the gates. The enemy is inside. And they keep one of pointing outside. They keep on to point outside. You know, they don't want to talk about, you never hear them saying, you know, when we get power, some of the things these people have done are criminal. We really should try to, you know, penalize them for it, take them to court, throw them in jail.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Why would they want to do that? They just want to be left alone. I just want to be left alone. Hey, if you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. I used to say that when I was a libertarian. leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. And you realize how it's just it's loser mentality.
Starting point is 00:54:16 There's no one's going to say that unless they're losing. But not only is no one going to say that unless they're losing, it guarantees you to lose. Because if the guy that wants to be left alone is always going to lose to the guy that's like, I want to take your lunch money, I want to kick your grandma out of her house, and I want to screw your sister. Maybe he only gets two out of three. but he took all your lunch money and kicked your grandma out of your house.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Why are there more people right now talking about Carl Schmidt than there were 10, 15 years ago? Because people see that friend, enemy is, it's so clear. It's so clear. And when you point that out to them, when you point that out to the people who are losing and just want to be left. alone and I just want to win. If we just get Trump reelected, he's going to do everything. Yeah. This pressure release, yeah, this pressure release valve, you know, like, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:29 how QAnon was it was the pressure release valve for the first term? What's going to be the pressure release valve for the second term? You know, if he, if he does get elected. Where it's like, oh, we don't have to do anything anymore. Somebody's coming to save us. No. No. Well, Trump, Trump was president for four.
Starting point is 00:55:47 four years he had accomplished very little. And accomplished very little. Why? Because he wasn't in power. And he was in power, but he wasn't using power. And then when you talk about using power, well, that's immoral. Right. Okay. Then.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Well, the great has the best answer to this question. I believe he calls it forced restication. It's like, no, you're just, you can go live in the middle of nowhere. Even somewhere nice, like you can have your little island in the Caribbean. It's just that, you know, there's a boat once a month. There's no planes. There's no satellite communications. And you're not in power anymore.
Starting point is 00:56:37 But notably, you know, who did Carl Schmidt cite all the time in from America? Was it Calhoun? Yeah. Right? like the one serious thinker that like people cited in your in you know European universities was John C. Calhoun like this is so it's it's not like for the for the people that want to be like that's a foreign weird ideology it's John C. Calhoun it's translated it's translating John Cicahalhoun into German that's what it is I mean there's there's additional insights and I don't want to take anything away from crush mid he was obviously a genius but like
Starting point is 00:57:32 there are plenty of americans who understood the way the game is played you just haven't heard about them you're not allowed to talk about them you know all this paper you know you don't you don't you don't want to be a fascist do you don't you don't want to be called the fascist do you well i mean if you if being called a fascist means like i don't think that you should be able to like raped on or sexually mutilate children or systematically disenfranchise and destroy the economics of American families. Oh, okay, fine. I'm a fascist. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I mean, if you want to be strict about it and be like, do you subscribe to everything Benito Mussolini wrote in the doctrines of fascism? No, I don't. But considering fascism has lost all meaning to the point where Paul Gottfried is a fascist, then, okay, I guess me and me and Paul Godfrey, the Jew, can be fascist together. They're not serious. I mean, and that's the problem is, is when you get to this point in, like, empire, you don't have a lot of serious people. So you look on the left, okay?
Starting point is 00:58:49 Who are the serious political thinkers on the left right now? Are there any? There haven't been any for decades. I mean, like, Nomechansky, kind of, but he's lost his basketball for years. he's very dishonest, always has been. All this is is a machine rolling on, and this machine was designed to serve the managerial class. And the managerial class doesn't even have to be that smart.
Starting point is 00:59:18 They just have to know how to keep the machine going. Somebody has to figure out, somebody has to step in and go, well, this machine, I'm putting a wrench in the gears. This machine can't go on anymore. But if you talk about that, if you talk about, let's face it, we both know this. This form of government, whatever it is, cannot exist. Whatever the next thing is, it can't be this. You can't, when a car breaks down, you have two choices.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Okay, you know the car is broken. You're either going to fix it or you're going to replace it. There gets a point with a car where you're like, I just can't fix this anymore. to replace it. We passed a replacement part like 75 years ago. It needed to be replaced then. And people are so into this civic religion of, well, what else could it be? If it's not going to be this, it's going to be fascism. Okay, if whatever you think fascism is, If it dismantles this and gives you the ability to, I don't know, have a farm, have a family, be able to, you know, like some countries are doing now,
Starting point is 01:00:47 and if you have five kids, you don't have to pay taxes ever again for the rest of your life. Countries that are doing that are being called fascist. Is that okay? No, but Kelly is being called the fascist for, like, throwing people who have the, I commit crimes tattooed on their face. Like, hey, I'm just going to believe you when you say, like, I've murdered people. Like, when you have the I murder people tattoo on your face, then he's just like, okay, I believe you that you murdered people.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And guess what we do to murder people who murder people? We throw them in jail. And all of a sudden, Nebuchadile is a fascist for like, hey, I think ordinary people shouldn't have to be, like, worried about like the demon tattoo face guy showing up their little bodega stand and like taking all their profits for years at a time like okay if that's fascist right if if victorubon and paul gotfried and peter brimelo and naebe kelle and um you know curtis yarvin and vladimir putin are all fascist the term has lost all meaning and it should be mocked.
Starting point is 01:02:08 When you come to a point in civilization and, you know, there were groups, there were groups in Europe in the 1920s and 30s who decided that, okay, there's a threat, this threat will end our civilization. It will destroy everything that this, that our people stood for, that our people stood for, that our, our families stood for, that our country stood for, this land, it will destroy everything. It will, it will ravage it like locusts. There will be nothing left. We need to do something and we need to do something. And it's going to look, it's going to be really, really drastic. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:50 That sounds like if you, if you've diagnosed a problem that well, then, well, you're going do something, you're going to do things that people are going to look at and go, well, maybe you shouldn't be doing that. Well, maybe they shouldn't be raping nuns. Maybe they shouldn't be burning churches down. You ever seen what happens in a controlled, hard landing on an airplane or like with the train that has to slam on the brakes? Yeah. Or a big truck when they have to, when they have to slam on the brakes, like, it's ugly. There's a bunch of damage that's done. It's not good. Right. People get thrown around, stuff gets thrown around, brakes, stuff smokes, tires get shredded.
Starting point is 01:03:39 But like if the alternative is like driving off the cliff, you got to slam on those brakes and maybe, you know, bounce into a few trees here and there. If the alternative is end up at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. It's, and that's basically our choice right now. The problem with those situations, I was in an aborted landing once that really, I mean,
Starting point is 01:04:04 it was one of the most frightening things I've ever been, and we were literally like 10 feet off the ground when the landing got aborted. And at least you know that you're in danger. The problem is, you know it. At that moment, you know you're in danger. People don't feel like they're in danger yet. You know, when, you know, maybe in 10 years
Starting point is 01:04:28 when boomers are going to be loaded onto box cars by their trans grandkids because of something they said on Twitter, like, you know, two weeks ago, two weeks previous to now. Maybe then they'll get it. But I don't, you know, I don't trust people anymore. I don't trust the public to do anything. I know people, I judge people by talking to them. The masses are, I mean, wanting, advocating for the individual liberty. of masses who don't, wouldn't be willing to even step up and speak about their individual liberty. Why are you wasting your time? No, these are the people who are, these are people who are equally the enemy.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Okay. But also, there are also people waiting to be led. You know, the proverbial, you know, there's a crown laying in the gutter right now. And now we're just waiting for someone to pick it up. but it's like, oh no, that person is going to become a king. They're going to become a dictator. It's going to become totalitarian.
Starting point is 01:05:36 They're saying the same thing. They're saying the same thing about Buckelly. They're saying, I mean, in guy, what, 87% of the vote? Yeah. So. Or Vladimir Putin. They've said to say they're not him for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yeah. Like, look at that. Maybe 80% of the population wants to live in a society that functions. And they don't care how it gets there. You know? Yeah. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:06:05 I would like to be able to go, you know, visit Big City, XYZ, and go to a symphony. I'd like to be able to go to the opera. I'd like to be able to go to a concert and not encounter people who are on drugs and who might attack me. I would like to. Same here, man. I would like to be able to go, you know, buy raw milk from a guy that I know and not have him be attacked. I would like my society to not be invaded by tens of millions of invaders from all across the planet. But we're not in power right now.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And the people that are don't care. And they don't play by rules. And they don't. I mean, you know, I mean, you and I haven't always agreed on everything, Pete.
Starting point is 01:06:57 But like, between the two of us, right, we can come sort of modus vivendi. And like, if we have a real disagreement, we'll play by Queensberry rules. And neither of us won, you know, cheap shots or, you know, but there's no.
Starting point is 01:07:11 They killed millions of people with COVID. Millions of people were killed on a disease that was manmade in a lab with a cooperation of the United States government and the Chinese Communist Party. And you're telling me, and no one's going to see any jail time and no one's going to, like, you, you have, and, and most people in. America. If you say, hey, guess what? You know, the head of the NIH lied. Francis Collins lied. And they have email proof, like, like actual honest to God proof that like these people lied and businesses were destroyed. Tens of millions of people were thrown into poverty, you know, government balance sheets all across the world got wrecked. The economy got destroyed. Millions of people got sick. You know, tens of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people have had this
Starting point is 01:08:07 vaccine that has done major damage. We don't know really in terms of numbers. And nothing's going to happen to these people until you decide that like, oh, people who will do that to people and murder 60 billion babies in the womb and lie about the Nurembergium game, they might not believe in rules. I know this is a shock to you, Pete, but like if you're willing to like, millions of babies, you might be a bad person. Like, they're just bad people doing bad things.
Starting point is 01:08:42 And until people understand that, until they can make the friend-in-enemy distinction and, like, go through the Pete Quinonez University of Crime Think. And listen to all the readings you've done and all that, I don't think that they're going to be able to understand. And I think that that's why you've been demonetized on YouTube and everything else because you're, waking people up. Well, you will hear people say we're ruled by psychopaths. And then if somebody gets righteous anger and steps up and says, well, somebody needs to pick up that crown and do something about it, they're more scared of that person than the, I guess, the devil they know.
Starting point is 01:09:28 And until they get past that fear and until they get that kind of righteous anger amongst themselves, why would anybody step up? You know, the only good thing, to me, the only good thing populism is for, is for, so that that person out there who wants to pick up that crown gauges that there's a, he'll have enough support to do it. Notice I didn't say she, he'll have enough support to do it. And yeah, yeah, if you keep countersignaling that person, they're not going to show up.
Starting point is 01:10:05 They're not going to show up. Look, I know you got to go, so I'll let you. You want me to link to your telegram chat so people can go in and read your musings? That would be very kind of you. Thank you so much for having me, Pete. Oh, well, thanks. And see you on the next Thought Crime Syndicate, where I think we just decided, I think we just decided what to do for the next one, and I think people will like it.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Sounds good, man. All right. Later.

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