The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1045: The Foreign Policy of Adolf Hitler - Part 1 - w/ Thomas777

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

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What I want to get into today, and of course, you're the boss of this program. I want to discuss how there's a nascent, sort of revisionist, there's a nascent tolerance for a revisionist scholarship about Adolf Hitler, okay, that I think is undeniable. I'm talking about, you know, in corridors where that was not tolerated whatsoever, you know, even a decade or a decade and a half ago. And it's very interesting. It owes to a lot of factors. That owes to the Second World War truly fading from living memory. You know, it owes to the kind of democratization of university resources. It owes to, you know, the complete and total absence.

of a bully pulpit that academe in, you know, in conjunction with media used to enjoy and, you know, facilitated a really kind of complete and total capability to dominate the conceptual landscape. You know, not just enforce, you know, strictures on what's considered to be an acceptable opinion, but quite literally control the conceptual narrative. You know, I mean, people find that hard to believe now that that could be done. But, I mean, think free internet, think when any media you can assume it's truly passive. You know, you don't select the programming. And your access to data really is limited to what you can find at your local library, you know, or library system.

But it's interesting because I would have thought it would be the opposite within the bounded rationale of revisionist enterprise. a soft versionist enterprise relating to the Third Reich. I would have thought that the Nazi party would have been rehabilitated in terms of, oh, these were just ignorant people or some such thing. But, you know, Hitler was this sort of evil Svengali type who swept them up in this, you know, sort of miasma of evil and madness. It's really kind of the opposite. You know, a lot of these treatments have a very, very punitive

view of the party and of its loyalists and they're certainly not friendly to Adolf Hitler, but they normalize him within the context of a historicist discussion of his life and times and career as a politician and as a warlord. Most recently, 2019, this book, Hitler, a global biography by Brendan Sims.

This is an important book. And specifically, it dovetails with something I've written about rather extensively. That is, it's my belief that Adolf Hitler believed America to be his primary adversary. He believed Roosevelt was his personal enemy. He believed in America was New Deal America. You know, as America had become constituted with the 1933 Revolution, Hitler viewed that as permanent, and he wasn't wrong. He viewed America as the as the foe of Europe,

and he viewed it as this still essence of, you know, kind of the, the Jewish perspective on political life, you know, and kind of like the penultimate expression of, of um of of jewish social engineering you know writ large like people turn around and say you know you can't say that you know the entire raison d'etra of the nsdap was was was anti-bullivism and its emergence owed 100% to you know the emergence of revolutionary communism you know so you can't discuss it this discrete quantity, you know, contra America that developed according, you know, to geostrategic challenges and ideological discourse somehow unrelated to that, you know, and, um, and, um, and, and, and,

and came to, you know, identify America as, as, as, as, as the primary adversary. I want to get into my rebuttal of that today in terms of what actually happened. you know rather than counterfactuals and we're going to cover a little bit of familiar ground but I figured today you know I'll kind of address you know I'll kind of present rebuttal is what I think on the main objections to that perspective I just I just explained the second episode for the second part you know we'll uh we'll talk about Hitler contra Roosevelt and the kind of direct hostile discourse between the two you know, Roosevelt's radio addresses and Hitler's radio addresses, they were obviously in direct dialogue with each other, and it's fascinating.

And then finally, you know, how I want to get into some comparing and contrasting, you know, in direct, kind of in direct capacity, you know, of textual criticism. you know like the sims book and books like rh sulfi's fantastic biography of hitler called hitler beyond evil and tyranny and john toland who i believe wrote the kind of seminal biography on adolf hitler i i part ways of them on some claims um and we'll get into that later tolin i mean um you know and i know i know that he i know that i know that um toulin accepted some of the court history narrative and the Nuremberg narrative that people find highly objectionable. But, you know, the Institute for Historical Review, when they were quite a bit harder line, arguably than there today, you know, I hosted him on multiple occasions.

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MindComps fake. Hitler's second book is fake. You know, my dick is fake. landing is fake. The air we breathe is fake. I was fucking retarded. I'm sick of it. Like, it's not fake. You know, like, at some point, people have to accept that reality is what it appears to be.

You know, and somehow, somehow the second book tracks exactly what would Hitler related to confidants, particularly you know, to Gerbils, to Hess, you know, long before the most critical phases

the war ensued, obviously. You know, things that he disclosed to Speer, who, Speer was a real weasel, but he wasn't, you know, that doesn't mean you discount every single thing he said as being, as being some self-serving lie. Like, oh, I, it, I'm sure that sounded immoral, but like I, I, I am so sick of people just declaring things to be fake. You know, like I, it's like, it's like a mental illness or something.

you know um people that's why i object to not for the tandem but i don't like the whole like red pill metaphor because it's like it's this it's this it's this idea that everybody's kind of ditty bopping around like an idiot then they come to some like special knowledge that like things aren't what they appear to be like they all of a sudden realize that like maybe everything they see on cnn isn't true you know and that's the red pill so then if that they decided like literally everything on this planet is fake you know like pittler was fake he worked for wall street and the builderbergs put him there and you know war

two was fake and then the cold war is fake you know so you know the fake moon landing was part of the fake cold war that's it's a it's it's really really really really stupid like it's how it's how really stupid people kind of like makes sense of a world that confuses them you know it's like these hood guys will claim that like he keeps and trade fruit punch like makes you sterile and you know like that doesn't make any sense like nah dog it do it do it's literally the same thing it's like just as fucking stupid you know it's like okay, fine. Everything is fake. I'm an idiot and everything's fake.

So don't watch. All right. Well, let's get into it. I think there's about Hitler in terms of his character that's misrepresented by people like Alan Block, by people like Kershaw, really by kind of the seminal, like, mainstream historians of Hitler. They cast him as this kind of provincial rube,

who is not an old worldly, you know, and, you know, kind of had no understanding of power political affairs outside of, you know, this narrow corner, literally, of the kind of, of the Hasserie Empire, where he was raised, you know, this kind of, this kind of underdeveloped, you know, sort of failing by the time he was born, like, monarchist dinosaur, you know, that was, that was racked by, like, ethnic conflict and things and the kind of arcane political structures, you know, and, and, um, intrigues and vendettists they're in. That's not at all the case. It was very, very rare for people in Hitler's epoch to travel overseas. You know, like, for example, it was like a big deal when, like, Wilson went to Europe. You know, Hitler himself also, as Kuzabek and his sister relayed, Hitler was in love with, like, American stuff.

When he was a little kid, Hitler's two passions were reading, and he constantly would pour over maps with his colored pencils. He was obsessed with geography and cartography and sketching out with his pencils, you know, battle scenarios of, you know, the Napoleonic wars and, you know, the Franco-Prussian wars and, like, these great conflicts he'd read about. But he loved reading about cowboys and Indians

and, like, playing cowboys and Indians. And so I found hilarious as, you know, the Wheatcroft collection, that eccentric Englishmen from Central casting, Weecroft, who's got the most extensive collection of third-rigue artifacts on this planet, from, you know, like Hitler busts to a panzer tanks and everything in between. I guess when the Berghoff was dynamited, there was still the basement areas one could access. And Burgo and his buddy, they went there, they repelled down.

you know, into the basement area. I mean, they're lucky you didn't collapse on them. And there was, like, a game room there. You know, like, I guess there was like this, there was a bowling alley. But everywhere there was like Coca-Cola signs on like a Coca-Cola vending machine. And I guess We Cross buddies, like, wasn't this like nuts? And we cross like, no, Hitler loved Coca-Cola. You know, his favorite movie was King Kong.

You know, he, uh, Hitler had fought the Americans, you know, as, uh, as, uh, as a lot on or in the Reichs, in the Kaiser's army. Okay. Hitler wasn't like ignorant of America or something or like just viewed it as, you know, like in the way like some provincial European, you know, full of sort of small-minded

and small town prejudices would. And what he began saying to his one-time confidant Putsi Hofstangle Hosh Stangle was one of the even after the even after the Ramm purge Hachstangle

he was one of the people who was you know at least party adjacent if not you know truly insinuated into the intercyclical fighters you know he was in that orbit and he'd speak freely to Hitler

and he was constantly trying to sway Hitler away from viewing the Soviet Union as something that had to be destroyed and Rosenberg hated them and both men seem to think they could somehow like sway the furor to their perspective

out of Russia. You know obviously Rosenberg is you know violently punitive view of Russia which is totally understandable him being a Baltic German and um Hofstangel said to Hitler that you know it would be a fool's errand for any, you know, for any

for any, for any, for any, you know, to make war in the Soviet Union, you know, that'd be an unwinnable war. And Hitler said, no, no. Hitler said, uh, that would be an essential war. An unwinnable war would be against the United States, when it awakens. The United States is going to rule this planet. You know, I'm paraphrasing.

But, um, in the second book, he talks about how America possesses quite literally 50% of this planet's natural resources Hitler himself had he had an uncanny ability to take reams of

data and take conceptual sets of data that don't really lend themselves to translating into inputs and he had this kind of way of understanding how these things translate the power political variables

both concrete and behavioral and everything else. Hitler viewed the United States as this burgeoning superpower unlike anything the world had ever seen. And in terms of the American people, one of the things Sims drives home, and this makes me so happy, because I've been saying this for ages,

and people claim it's like a quote-unquote cop epilogia. Heller did not view the German people as some master race as they existed in 1933. He thought Germany was in terrible shape. He said, you know, the 30 years war smashed Germany into pieces, literally. You know, and he's like in 1648,

our population was scattered to the four winds. You know, we like lost who we were. You know, like the best of our, the best of our mentioned material was in the grave. You know, and he's like, there was just kind of like this, you had a bunch of uh you know you had a bunch of people made war refugees who'd been made into like refugees you know who were basically forcefully assimilated into you know by the you know by

by these by these slavonic um peoples that they then had to live among after being banned from banished from their own land you know and he said after that you know Germany um even uh even after unification you know germany's slightly smaller than wyoming You know, in power political terms, Germany is a tiny country with no natural resources. Like, all it has is its people. And, you know, from the turn of the 19th century, until the Immigration Reform Act of 1924, something like 5.9 million Germans had left Germany for the United States. You know, Hitler said, like, these were our best people. You know, he's like, they were the people who could survive a journey, you know, which is, like, they were the people who could survive a journey, you know,

in those days was no small thing. You had to be a robust person. These are the guys going to handle, you know, like, weathering poverty and terrible hardship for years of need be to build something. You know, these are the guys who weren't afraid to literally look at a location on a map and say, I'm going to travel thousands of miles away in some cases. You know, I'd live on this new continent. You know, Hitler's like what was left in Europe.

You know, he's like, or people who were just, like, weaker in mind and spirit. or people had been left behind by history. It goes on to say, and only to the fact, you know, Hitler knew Americans, he'd fought them.

He said, like, you know, when I fought these people, when we fought these people, you know, he's like, they're these large, robust people,

you know, and he's like, compared to them, you know, he was like, we're like these kind of, like, sinewy weaklings who get knocked out

by rifle fire. You know, he's like, these guys could take shots to the chest and like, in some cases recover. You know, he's like,

he's like, we didn't stand a chance. in 1918 being bled white as we had like fighting like you know the American army you know the bulk of which in those days was made up of a bunch of German people you know by race if you're going to look like that okay so this was this was Hitler's perspective

you know it wasn't America sucks you know it's weak it's misogynated you know the Germans are the best people on earth it was the opposite it was we're dying out and the only way we can not die out is through this kind of top-down process of palingenesis,

part of which is spiritual, you know, part of which is historical in nature, you know, part of which is physical and biological, quite literally, you know, part of which is a matter of social engineering,

but of such a nature that's going to have organic residents and isn't, you know, just some sort of contrived, it isn't just some sort of contrived political program, you know, emergent from the minds of, you know, of an information ministry or something. So this is where, this is where Hitler was coming from. And I want to add to, and Sims makes

this point, in both Mines Comp and the second book, Hitler does not, he barely even mentions black people. He says that he has some punitive things to say about the American South, because he said that importing, he said importing, he said importing thousands. or millions of, um, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, Negro or Aboriginal slaves, he said that's cool barbaric, you know, um, he didn't so much mean it's like mean to enslave people, and he didn't mean that at all. Like, he meant that, you know, having this, like, massive slave population, that's not assimilable, you know, that in, in some places outnumbers, you know,

the, you know, the, the, the master cast, I mean, that's literally perverse. You know, and he, beyond that, and mind comp, he makes him passing reference to how, you know, the kind of universality of cultural identity. And, you know, kind of like rudimentary religion, no matter how primitive it can be, it may be. And he said that, like, you know, people even see this and, you know, people even see this in the most, like, primitive Negro tribe,

you know, which was like short-hand for like Afrians. So that's, you know, I mean, like, why is that important? It's not that it's so important, but like, for years, not just, this long precedes like, like, wokeism and kind of fake scholarship online. There's this, like, narrative that, like, Hitler for no reason had some, like, demented hatred of blacks and, like, hated Jesse Owens. And, I mean, that's like, that's literally demented. But that, um, that was basically Hitler's musings in America, kind of like looking at the

strategic landscape when, you know, he became Greg's consler and when Mr. Roosevelt took the oath of office. So why was Hitler so fixated on Russia? Well, there's the obvious exigence of, you know, it being, Germany being situated on the Soviet frontier, you know, the communists were an existential threat to the Germans. You know, there was an inextricable aspect of anti-communism to national socialism. But the thing is, the Germans had won in Germany. I mean, that's why Hitler was a Reich consular. You know, some years later, you know, they won in,

Spain. You know, like the communists were losing in Western Europe. And the thing with communism is that, you know, once it, once it loses that kind of like revolutionary fervor, it doesn't come back. You know, that's why after World War II, you know, when one would think like, oh, you know, like Marxist-Leninism is at Zenith, you know, in the third world it was. But in Europe, like nobody, it literally had to be imposed at the point of a bayonet. On the many days of Christmas, the Guinness Storehouse brings to thee. A visit filled with festivity. Experience a story of Ireland's most iconic beer

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and I'll get into this in a minute and declare that any German officer or enlisted man in the East is immune to prosecution for crimes against humanity you know and

as contrary you know the occupation of France or nothing like that would be tolerated you know not not even like by anybody there's an interesting little factoid I think it's more than a factoid

I think it's fundamentally important there's this really interesting book. It's one of my favorite books. It's by this author named Proudon, Pratton, P-R-A-W-D-I-N, the Mongol Empire, or the Mongols in their empire, by Michael Pradden, which was a pen name, but this book made the rounds in German Academe. You know, in the, I think the first edition was published in 1929. If somebody, if I'm wrong, somebody correct me, people like

among comparative people into like comparative social anthropology and cultural anthropology people into philology particularly people into military science they found this to be a very important book Heinrich Himmler became fixed it on this book

at the at the SS Juncker Schools it was a signed reading every SS officer upon receiving his commission was given a copy of it. Yacquim Piper, his term paper, or his thesis, I guess what we considered, you know, his bachelor's thesis,

when he was at SS officer school, it was on the Mongol, but it was on a specific aspect of Mongol culture. that aspect was something called Yasa YASA YASA Yasa was quite literally the law of the Mongol Empire

but in the Mongol Empire the law was literally kept secret and never made public the Yasa had its origin and wartime decrees later it was expanded um extrapolated from

these military conventions you know, to include behavioral conventions, you know, things relating to cultural things and conjugal things and, you know, disputes over property and things like this.

But, um, it remained a secret. It was believed that there's a very incomplete record of the Mongols in terms of, you know, their cultural practices and things. It's believed that this was supervised by Genghis Khan himself

who appointed his adopted son Shigikutu as kind of like a high judge or like a lawgiver he appointed his second son Shagatai Khan to oversee the law as execution

quite literally as Lord High executioner now this idea of a body of law that obviously one of the reasons for its secretiveness is not just so that you know the high lawgiver can maintain this mystique and decrees therein and precedent can be modified and applied selectively but it also you know it also um it also obviously speaks of of of belief in a divine origin okay the social order and of military endeavors and of you know the the function of soldiery in of itself okay um piper wrote his uh is his paper on yasa and um you know uh it got glowing much from his teachers

and Himmler Piper would periodically refer to Genghis Khan and Mongol concepts just in the discussion in military affairs. It's obviously like looned really large in his mind. Okay, so what this translates

to is there was a belief that there they're quite ahead to be some sort of adjacent moral ethos of, you know, your vanguard soldiery. And that's what the SS was supposed to be. They were supposed to be a kind of,

they're supposed to be kind of the reconstituted Teutonic Knights, but they, they were really kind of a, it's an perfect example, but they were almost, you know, like a jihad element, okay? And some sort of integrated, some sort of integrated structure of,

you know, law and command authority and theological, small T, theological imperatives, is really what something like that requires. And I'll get into that in a minute. Like why that is so important. Okay. A couple things that stand out

or a couple instances, you know, with people who discuss command responsibility relating to the German war crimes and genocide in the in the Second World War. One of those instances

is Himmler's Poston speech or speeches in October 1983 where Himmler had addressed and assembled the assembled higher SS and police leaders any openly stated we're talking about the eradication of the Jewish people

this was in 19443 October which really shouldn't surprise anybody considering the state of things okay the second instance that they tend to raise you know they raise it as almost like a litigation attorney would, an admission by a party opponent.

The Over Salzburg speech on August 22nd, 1939, which obviously was right to the eve of the assault on Poland. This American journalist, Louis P. Lochner, this gets a little complicated. He contacted a diplomat named Alexander Comstock, Kirk. he showed him the text of this speech that Hitler had

delivered to the assembled over to the assembled brass at over Salzburg in turn it was transmitted to the British diplomat George Oval v. Forbes who of course made it public in British intelligence circles

almost immediately. and the belief almost certainly or the understanding is almost certainly it was Wilhelm Canaris, Chief of the Adver who was the intelligence leak, okay, and he was present there. And it's interesting for all kinds of reasons that this is what he chose to

really, this is what he chose to leak in lieu of some other things over the, because Canaris didn't leak everything. And sometimes he did what was what one would consider to be the patriotic thing to do at critical junctures. Like other times, he was engaged in catastrophic acts of treason as relates to the disclosure of what would be considered eyes-only secrets. But as in May, these documents, the documents constituting the speech, or at least the notes

that constituted the speech as much as our snitch, who was, will accept as Canaris proffered to the allies. Every exhibit, profit in Nureberg was cataloged with a letter and number code. The text of the speech, it's paragraph and number code, is paragraph 3 of exhibit L3. I'll read the relevant paragraphs. It's short. This is Hitler speaking. Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality.

Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter, with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees him solely the founder of a state. It's a matter of indifference to me what a weak Western European civilization will say about me. I've issued the command. I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by firing squad. Their war aim is not consistent in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy.

Accordingly, I have placed my death head formation and readiness to the present only in the east, with orders to them to send death mercilessly and without compassion. With orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion,

men, women, and children of Polish derivation and heritage, well, thus shall we gain the living space which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians. That's that famous quote about the Armenians comes from. Okay. So what is Sittler saying?

No mind you, when he talks about putting any insubordinate person to the firing squad, he's talking to men in uniform, without exception. Okay, so that's, that's draconian, but it's appropriate, okay? With a commonly accepted laws and customs of war.

As a, that comes with the Commissar Order, come with the barbarosa decree, you know, which again, I'm not going to read verbatim word for word, the text of those documents, but it essentially stripped away any and all precedent relating, you know,

permissive or compulsory, relating to the laws and customs of war since 1648, while acknowledging that in the West, these things would still be scrupulously honored and observed. Okay. So what does that mean? What that means is that, in practical

terms, Hitler realized that in order to become a superpower, Germany had to annihilate everything east of the order. That was not reconcilable with the German ambition of conquering

of conquering a landmass essentially from the Atlantic Ocean to the Earls and perhaps beyond. There's no way that one can reconcile that ambition and there's no way that one can imagine a grand strategy that doesn't entail some variant of that whereby Germany survives.

You know, it's, I mean, if you want to, and you know, keep in mind, too, like, you know, you know, Prussia was populated when the Prussians conquered it. You know, these, these Slavic Wens, they,

they were people somewhat adjacent to, you know, the pagan Baltic tribes. who some of the later crusades were waged against. You know, this was a wild land, but, you know, there's precedent within the German cultural and military psychology for this. And, you know, it's like saying, you know, people saying like, oh, you know, it's laughable to say that, you know, Hitler viewed America as the adversary of Europe, you know, when he was talking about putting, you know, entire countries to the

sword in the east it's really not man i mean it's did the u.s you know did um during the creek war did uh did people view the united kingdom as uh as a greater existential threat to america or you know or the camangi you know like one thing is related to the other because you know if you're fighting quite literally a war against two discrete populations um you know, there's there's going to be some sort of weighing of, you know, the relative threat potential of both, but the idea

that, you know, the willingness to exterminate a people in lieu of abiding the laws and customs of war is pre-finition evidence that those people are, you know, your worst enemy. It's not conceptually, that's not how high politics

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we don't think of germany as a colonial power you know during the second wave of colonialism but they were. And then, arguably contextual predix, too, is the Herrero uprising in 1904 in German Africa.

General Lothar von Schrothe. There was this uprising, obviously, of these Herrero tribesmen. And they were driven out and chased into the

into the into this adjacent territory of the Kalahari Desert which was which was a wasteland okay

Montrotha he had them locked down and any refugees who tried to access water were shot so Montrotha at his men were quite literally

hunting these people to extinction in the desert. Shota himself referred to the order he was the order that he issued, regarding the treatment of these people and not distinguishing, you know, between persons. You know, regardless of sex, age, ability to bear arms, overall health, you know, they were all to be killed. So-called very next stung as Bethel.

Quite literally an annihilation order or annihilation command. In his words, the herrero are no longer German subjects. Within the German border, every herrero was shot with or without a rifle, without cattle. I take no more wives and no children.

I take no more wives and no children. I drive them back to their people or let them be shot. You know, I mean, that's incredibly. hard words from a hard man. But the, um, you know, I realize I'm jumping around a lot.

I hope that doesn't, um, I hope that that's not, um, you know, rendering this old pig. Yeah, um, you'll bring it back home. We got it. Right. The, uh,

the rigue beg the Sims and to tell you, you know, I make the point about Hitler being, Hitler was a political gambler, but he was a military gambler, but he was military. tally cautious, and that's a Stolfe point as well. We'll get into some of that, too,

because it's significant to kind of like the myth versus reality of Adolf Hitler, but something that, something that, something that is undeniable is that Hitler was several steps ahead

of his generals. I don't think anybody in the OKW had a truly developed sense of the political in the way that Hitler did. In general, for the most part, don't. That's the only thing that's crazy to me, people these days in this country act like generals, you know, understand power political affairs

and that it's perfectly legitimate for them to have opinions on policy. Like, you know, the army has no policy. But it's also, and this doesn't be trashing military men, they deal in, um, concrete particulars and every kind of discreet you know it's remarkably complicated but a very discrete you know sort of a sphere of action you know they don't generally have a great understanding of the political impactfulness of military activity nor how political occurrences indexing military military activity.

I mean, most people don't, but generals especially, this stands out, contrary Hitler. Hitler could look at a political situation and a burgeoning crisis and generally discern what was developing, you know, four or five proverbial moves ahead.

Like, that's what the game of chess is, okay? Like, I went through a phase I was playing a lot of chess as a kid and like I read all the chess books and stuff. Then I found out like I love pool, you know, and Dilliers. But, you know, what these chess masters can do

like, um, like there's this movie about like Bobby Fisher. That was, you know, Pete, now he's like a persona because he's like anti-Semitic or he said something nice about Serbia or something, but he's, you know, he was canceled. But there's this movie about Bobby Fisher and, you know, kind of like his life has this, you know, child prodigy.

And the way they portray it, I realize we've got to portray things in a certain way in film to make it compelling, but especially if it's a cerebral process, you're trying to convey to the audience. But the way these high-level chess kids are playing, it's almost like a shootout. You know, like Fisher, like moves his night. You know, then like the other kid, like Perry is almost and moves as bishop. It's not how, like, top-level chess masters play. They're like five moves ahead. You know, and they're figuring out the best way to facilitate, like, that in-game, you know, that they've already. seen. And like, if that

potentiality collapses, it's like, okay, you know, they're rapidly reorienting towards, you know, another outcome that's like five moves ahead. You know, that's, that's the same thing with the game theory. You know, if you want to fight and win a nuclear

war, I don't want to get into the debate about, like, you know, can anyone win a nuclear war? There's an ethical judgment and also, like, yes, you can, but it depends on what the victory metric is, and that's, that's, that it's not an absolute criteria but point being if you're going to fight to win a nuclear war you basically have to be three steps ahead okay you can't you can't be rendering decision

you know in the moment and waiting for waiting for the variables to reveal but uh so Hitler um Hitler realized um that uh god damn I lost my train thought as you guys I'm still like not at 100% um

oh Hitler took on um on December 1st uh you know on December 11th um and we'll get to this next time that was that was Hitler's a speech of the Reichstag you know where he announced

the declaration of war against the United States this was also, you know, as the assault on them, Moscow was failing like catastrophically. Hitler, a famous nation to the order, you know, the Army Group Center, don't you dare retreat? And this is characterized as like Hitler being, you know,

like this madman. But, Hillary was trying to salvage what remained of the operation, because Moscow had to fall in December or all was lost. Okay? And I believe he knew that on some level. And everything subsequent was an anti-climax. But apparently, okay, W, over, you know, the Airmark's High Command, This was when W. Chief Operations, Walter Varlamont, he contacted Yodel and said, you know, who was then chief of operations of OKW. Arlomont, you know, said, you know, have you heard of the Furious that's a cleared war in America?

You know, Yodel said, yes. and according to Varlamont, like Yodel was like white as a sheet you know, it said that, you know, now the, you know, the general staff is charged with, you know, now we have to examine where the United States has mostly to employ the bulk of our forces initially, whether it's the far east or Europe, and we can't take further decisions until that has been clarified.

Um Villamard um replied well There's so much rugby on sports extra from Sky They've asked me to read the whole lad at the same speed I usually use for the legal bit at the end Here goes

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Be drinkaware. Visit drinkaware.org. He said this is obviously a necessary consideration, you know, commissioning this analysis. But, you know, he said, this is mad. We've never been considered a war against the United States. And we have no data on which to base this examination. You know, we can hardly undertake this job just like that.

Hitler fired a relevant what he heard of this and said he never wanted to see him again or speak to him. Hitler sidelined yodel and Hitler said, you know what? I'm making myself a chief of okayW. Hitler said, there's nothing, as he said, there's nothing that like, he said there's nothing like a general, a staff officer, a Feld Marshal, can teach an army, but what he can do is he can educate them politically.

You know, and he can explain them what needs to be done by um inundating them with an understanding of the stakes they're in now again people turn around to say like that megalomaniac Hitler like he appointed himself chief of okay w well you know what he did by doing that everything that went wrong now Hitler could not issue responsibility for okay from that point forward he couldn't blame the generals or the army for sabotaging anything. It seems like the play of a man who was

trying to avoid responsibility or take on offices, you know, symbolic or or wielding actual authority, you know, for the sake of for the sake of glory.

But part of Hitler's rage here, you know, was against Varlamat. It was what the hell are you talking about? Like the whole reason we're doing this is because America is going to destroy us. You know, we don't survive unless we become a superpower. You know, we don't survive unless we can compete on all these conditions of parity with the United States, you know, and fortify, you know, fortify the Western, the Atlantic Wall. in such depth

that is essentially suicide to assault it and sort of force America to accept our hegemony over the continent in Central Asia, west of the Urals just as, you know, everybody's, you know, all other

all rival sovereign powers are, you know, must accept America's hegemony pursuant to the to the Monroe Doctrine. And that was Hitler's thinking. You know,

his exact words Hitler's were, this little affair of operational command is really something anybody can do. The commander-in-chief's job is to train the army in the national socialist idea. I know of no general who could do that is I want it done. For that reason, I've taken command

of the army myself. the European winner of 1941 into 42 was the coldest the 20th century. There's rarely temperatures of 49 below Fahrenheit. It's just horrible conditions to fight in. But again, Germany was racing the clock. It wasn't just Stalin planned to assault the German. Reich, absolutely. But even with that not the case, you know, Germany had to survive. Germany had to, they had to win in the East before America was able to accomplish full mobilization.

And the Rainbow Five document, which was leaked, you know, for years it was blamed on poor Hap Arnold, deliberately, I believe, by intelligence elements of the United States. But the entire League of the Rainbow Five document was to convince Berlin and specifically Hitler that America could reach full mobilization potential and deploy both the Pacific and the European Battle Theater. They basically pushed it back, pushed it forward a year. in, you know,

contrary what was actually possible, you know, and Hitler saw the writing on the wall. And that's why it's laughable when, you know, I mean, I raised this again, because we're talking about, like, the real Hitler here and his ambitions as well as his character as warlord. But there's this idea that, you know,

Hitler declared war on the United States for no reason, or because he was a crazy man, because he wanted to, quote, distract people from the looming failure in the East, which makes no sense whatsoever. But it's, you know, the United States already declared war on Germany de facto on December 11th, another August of September 11th, 1941, when, you know, the Department, the War Department declared that any German flagship in the North Atlantic, in counterfeit. by American vessels will be destroyed.

You know, so that's, um, that's, um, in strategic terms and political terms, all this, um, I mean, all this coal assets into, you know, um,

an inevitability that, um, you know, an American global superpower means that Germany perishes. And, um, Germany is Europe. And Europe is Germany. in power of political terms such that we're extended in the 20th century. You know, and that's another thing, too, and we'll get into this as we get into some of the second book,

some of the substantive stuff in the second book, Hitler viewed the Soviet Union as kind of a Frankenstein monster where there was this revolutionary cadre piloting the proverbial head. that without that kind of firm control on the machinery of that monster's head, you know, the entire sort of golem just just collapses, you know, or perhaps it's hijacked by, you know, socialist, nationalist, Russian elements.

obviously, you know, like Mr. Yaki predicted as well, but that doesn't, but you know, the nascent globalism, which everybody understood is what underlay the Second World War, and power political developments both preceding it and intrinsic to the conflict itself.

Everybody realized that, you know, the advantage in terms of what would structure, like what system would structure the planet, like went to America. You know, what the Soviet Union had going for was military. You know, so is that, too. And obviously, this was, you know, pre-atomic age.

So that didn't teach into the equation. But, let me see what else. I'll say. There's something else I think I wanted to mention. Yeah, well, again, I'm sorry I'm being kind of scatter shot. I'm still,

I'm still not 100%. We'll get into the brass tax of we'll get into the brass tax of Stolfi's characterization of Hitler. The Sims book will get directly into some of Sims claims. And then we'll do kind of a comparative retrospective on these kinds of

soft revisionist views of the furor, like what they have in common with you know in terms of um in terms of a historical agreement and what they don't and then um maybe uh maybe we'll conclude

you know with um discussing Poland a little bit more and um you know kind of like the personal side of Hitler and how that's been um that that's been kind of more addressed more in a more mature and sober way

as well, which makes sense. Because regardless of everyone feels about a giant historical personage, it's, you know, his personal life such that it existed in any given case is essential understanding the man. And that's all I got.

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