The Pete Quiñones Show - Episode 1049: The Thought Crime Syndicate on St George LA, + Zerohedge's Israel/Palestine 'Debate'

Episode Date: May 5, 2024

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I want to welcome everyone to episode 1049 of the Piquino show, and this is the Thought Crime Syndicate myself, Jose Nino, Charles Bediel, and Dark Enlightenment, getting back together. And we talk about two subjects in particular here. We talk about St. George, basically seceding from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. And then we talk about the recent Zero Hedge debate in which Dave Smith and Shank Yugar debated. Dennis Prager and Kuchas, I can't remember her name. I apologize. But we basically try to concentrate on Dennis Prager in this and some of the comments that he made. And yeah, we go along again. This one I'm not going to put on RSS feeds. I'm going to give you a little taste of it after this, but it is free to download. It's on my website. Go to freemanbeonthewall.com forward slash debate. Audio files there. You can listen to it on the side. you can download it whatever you want with it it's also going to be on rumble it'll be on odyssey and it'll be on bit shoot and if all you have to do is search the pekiniana show on there and you'll find that when you go to the

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Pay Pete as recompense for my pain, please. So for those of you who don't know or didn't pay attention to the last old Glory Club live stream, South Baton Rouge just seceded from Baton Rouge and is going to call itself St. George. And Roger used to actually live in what is now St. George. and I first started following Rod about 20 years ago when he was still at National Review and National Review was still worth a damn because Derbyshire was still there and others.

And even then, you got the sense that Roger understood that Christianity and liberalism are incompatible but it made him really uncomfortable. And he published like this several thousand word piece about how St. George is like this failure of the Civil Rights Act and what are we going to do, The people who don't want their kids beaten up or raped in school aren't villains,

but also what about the poor children and the dysfunction? And his father was a Klansman and very contentious like Rod wrote about this bunch. The cowardice of the conservative establishment to just admit that the old right was right is going to doom this country. has doomed this country, but yes. It has doomed to this country. Thank you for the correct, Charles. That later, I had an interesting conversation with someone who's very senior in aviation,

and it's bad. But, you know, Roderre was like the absolute right edge of the Overton window for many, many years. And his refusal to just acknowledge the facts, Race warrent high school came out in the 70s. I was just about to say, Dee, not to cut off your train of thought, but I wasn't being pedantic and jumping on you about that correction. That was not pedanticism. Please don't take that as such.

I was going to make the exact point you're making now, which is race war in high school was talking about as far back as 1969 or 1971, whichever date you choose to use because it mentions both. And that is more than 50 years ago. So this is not a new problem. Even most of Gen X or, yeah, I would say most a significant percentage of Gen X has been living with this forever. That's how old this problem is. So please continue.

That's what I was just trying to draw. And Rod's almost 60. So he's an older Gen Xer. I'm like the tail and Charlie of Gen Xers. So we got a bunch of cynical Gen Xers here. There's just four cynical Gen Xers complaining about the world, right? That's this show. Yes.

But there is absolutely no way that Rod Dreher or Rich Lowry or Jonah Goldberg or anyone else on the establishment right doesn't know this is true because it's been common knowledge for half a century. Right. And no and the point that I think that you've made many times and a bearer. repeating. I don't blame you for for banging the drum repeatedly because it bears repeating. And inculcation is the really only way you can get people to understand things anymore with the bombardering of information. And that is that these problems have been around for a while. One of your go-to lines, and this is the drum you beat constantly and rightly so, is X knows, and when I say X,

I'm not referring to Generation X. I mean random individual, pundit or writer or or speaker, or what have you. X knows what we know. How many times have you said that day? A thousand, 2000, 2000, 3,000, you know, X knows what we know. They just don't want to admit it because they want to be allowed to go to their cocktail parties. They want to go, they want the money, they want the prestige, whatever. They don't care that their societies falling apart. They don't care that most people can't walk the streets at night. They don't care that kids aren't getting any kind of education. They just don't care. They took the ticket and they're going to and they're going to let Mammon give them a comfortable life. And then we all have to pay the devil for, for, because we're

stuck on the same hellbound ride. What I think something that I've really been examining recently as far as, um, my own thoughts and basically looking at society is, um, Cryptos, who I had on the podcast recently talks about, I guess he had a professor who talked about first and second order disagreements. And first order disagreement would be like us for here, we have a disagreement and we're going to work it out because we come from the same foundation. Foundationally, we're all in the same place. If we have a disagreement, even if it doesn't, even if we don't come to an agreement on it, we'll just be like, well, that's just one thing we disagree on, but it's fine. When you're dealing with this situation, where you're dealing

with a situation like St. George, when you're dealing with a situation like Baton Rouge, when you're dealing with a situation like, how do you live with a people who fundamentally just don't know how to act? It's a second order disagreement. And a second order disagreement means that these are people who you have no foundation with. There is no argument to be. had. There's no discussion to be had. There's no debate to be had. You just have to separate from them. You have to do whatever you did. What was it? Greg Hood had that great tweet about how the civil, all the Civil Rights Act was, basically what the Civil Rights Act did was it created a world where all you're doing is trying to escape from the, from everything that the Civil Rights Act has created.

and you're trying to hide the fact that you're trying to escape from all of the hell that the Civil Rights Act has created. And that's basically where we're at. When you look at something like St. George and Baton Rouge, it's a second order disagreement. No more conversations, no more debate. We have to split from each other or bad things are going to happen. Right. And people have been convinced by, you know, democracy or the enlist.

Enlightenment or the Renaissance that, well, you know, as long as we talk it out, we can just, man, we just keep talking it out. We'll come to the, we'll, we'll meet in a place where everybody's happy. No. No. That doesn't exist. There's a couple. Go ahead. Dee. Go ahead. I'll have a certain value of like, we'll talk it out. Like if, if you can find the conversation to 120 IQ plus Whiteman, yeah, which was what the conversation was confined to until like 1950. Right? Right. Because you're dealing with ideas that a lot of people can't process. And even if they could, like, let's just let's let me step that back just a bit. Let me not not be condescending unintentionally, but let me not be condescending. Well, remember to kind of go back to your first point, Pete, about the first and order, second order disagreements. The second order disagreement is so completely that gap is so completely unbridgeable because as you said, they don't share a foundation. We don't share a lexicon even with these people. We literally. literally don't even speak the same language. Now, when I say that, I don't mean we may not speak English, although the argument could be made, we don't actually both speak English. But what I'm saying is our glossary, our lexicon, our vulgarago, if you will, is just completely different. We don't even understand the words that the other is using.

So how can you come into an agreement if you don't even know what any of the words mean that the other person is saying? It's just impossible. And when you say we have to break away, I agree with you completely. Because you know what follows a second order disagreement. You know what follows a second order disagreement on its very heels. And that's physical violence. Because what was it, Louis the 14th?

I think what did he have written on his canons, the last argument of kings? That's what's going to happen now. That's the rivers of blood speech, that D has referenced many times. When you get to this point, violence is short. follow. I'm not sitting here advocating violence necessarily, but I am saying that's an inevitability. And I've said it on Twitter and I stand by it. If we can't share the foundation, as you mentioned Pete, if we can't share a lexicon, then there's no way around it. That's just simply what's going to happen.